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Tech Note: Menu Mania

Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 12:19:24 pm PDT

The LGF interface cleanup continues; the “News/Opinion” and “Anti-Idiotarians” sections that used to be in our right sidebar have been moved to the left sidebar and set up as Flippy Triangle menus. (“Anti-Idiotarians” has been renamed to “Blogs.”)

Both of these sections are dynamically refreshed via Ajax each time you click their headings to show them. The “Blogs” section chooses a random list of 50 blogs from our full list, so each time you show that menu you’ll see different links.

Since these sections are only loaded when you click the menu headings, this also means that displaying our pages will be slightly faster, since less data needs to be transferred on the initial page load.

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1 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:20:28pm
Since these sections are only loaded when you click the menu headings, this also means that loading our pages will be slightly faster, since less data is transferred on the initial page load.

Cool...I have dial up at home. Thanks Charles.

2 calvin coolidge  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:21:16pm

Has the New York Times approved this yet?

3 Crimsonfisted  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:23:14pm

Thank you for all you do, Charles!

4 gop_patriot  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:24:27pm

I don't see the anti-idiotarians flippy triangle thing. Am I just overlooking it, or has it been merged with something else?

5 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:24:32pm

I wonder if I'll know how to navigate around when I get back from vacation.

6 illegal upchuck  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:25:51pm

You'll stop paying the elbow tax, when you start cleaning with Ajax.

...old TV commercial...

7 Charles  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:25:52pm

re: #4 gop_patriot

I don't see the anti-idiotarians flippy triangle thing. Am I just overlooking it, or has it been merged with something else?

It's called "Blogs" now.

8 bosforus  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:26:08pm

re: #4 gop_patriot

I don't see the anti-idiotarians flippy triangle thing. Am I just overlooking it, or has it been merged with something else?

I don't see it yet either.

9 Dekar  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:26:19pm

Nice, the front page feels cleaner now

10 nikis-knight  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:26:27pm

I noticed over the past couple weeks that my IE7 using home computer has ceased to have significant lag when scrolling down a comments page. Thanks for the continual improvements.

11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:26:27pm

Has a flippy triangle been added for weird German porn yet?

12 faraway  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:27:31pm

Is this the Hope and Change we were looking for?

13 bosforus  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:27:31pm
The “Blogs” section chooses a random list of 50 blogs from our full list,

Is there still a way to see the full list?

14 gop_patriot  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:28:07pm

re: #7 Charles

Oh, duh. Thanks. Apparently, I'm not able to put two and two together. I think I need food...

Everything looks great, btw. I like the Flippy Triangles.

15 Charles  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:28:53pm

re: #13 bosforus

Is there still a way to see the full list?

Under Tools/Info -- "Blogroll".

16 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:29:19pm

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Has a flippy triangle been added for weird German porn yet?


That'd be the link to GoV, right?

17 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:31:35pm

Less Filling, Tastes Great

18 BGOH  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:33:32pm

CHANGE!

I am a flippy triangle fanatic!

19 bosforus  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:34:56pm

re: #15 Charles

Under Tools/Info -- "Blogroll".

Got it. Much thanks.
LanceKates has left the building. :(

20 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:35:07pm

Very stream-lined. I'm jealous.

21 faraway  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:35:12pm

You could be sued for flippy infringement

22 Vergeltung  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:35:28pm

I never see (saw) a site on your blog reference list called The Rottwieller (www.nicedoggie.net). there some colorful language used there, but the message is still good. could have sworn I see some posters here that also have posted there, IIRC.

just curious...

23 Cygnus  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:38:48pm

re: #6 illegal upchuck

You'll stop paying the elbow tax, when you start cleaning with Ajax.

...old TV commercial...

Ajax Laundry Detergent is stronger than dirt!

...another old commercial...and I can hear that little jingle in my head - arrrrgh!

24 Vergeltung  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:39:49pm

re: #23 Cygnus

Ajax Laundry Detergent is stronger than dirt!

...another old commercial...and I can hear that little jingle in my head - arrrrgh!

also, the "stron-ger than dirt" sounds like it is said at the end of that one Doors song. heard that?

25 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:40:32pm

MPAKUK celebrates 7/7 by soliciting for stories of Islamic victimization....
It Shouldn’t Happen To A Muslim

Peter Oborne’s programme highlights some of the numerous untruthful stories published in some elements of the media the use of selective quotations from the Quran – deliberately de-contextualised for political capital, the use of negative photo imagery (not least our very own perennial grotesque – Abu Hamza), the role of the far-right in both feeding off Islamophobia and stoking it and last but not least the role of mainstream politicians that jump on the bandwagon and raise tangential stories for political capital.

The result is social disintegration, violence, fear and loathing and a setting back of liberal social ideas by at least a generation. One of the examples (not shown in the programme) is a personal account of a fifteen year old niqabi girl living in London. When she boarded a bus a man tried to set fire to her clothing with a lighter. She has since made plans to leave Britain (make hijra) with her family and live in Yemen. There are numerous other examples that have come to our attention.

Tell us about your experiences.

Of course they're only worried about maintaining their own victim status. No mention on their front page of the innocent Britons who were killed by Islamic extremists on this day.

26 zombie  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:42:03pm

Woo-hoo!

Liberal hot-head argues with Marines supporters in Berkeley has finally passed Code Pink dancer as the all-time most-viewed zombietime original video. But I predict third-place newcomer Nazi salute by leftists during National Anthem in Berkeley is on a trajectory to pass them both in the long run -- it's gotten the most hits in the least amount of time. Woman ranting at Iraq War Fifth Anniversary Protest in S.F. is in a respectable fourth place.

27 jcm  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:42:49pm

re: #26 zombie

Woo-hoo!

Liberal hot-head argues with Marines supporters in Berkeley has finally passed Code Pink dancer as the all-time most-viewed zombietime original video. But I predict third-place newcomer Nazi salute by leftists during National Anthem in Berkeley is on a trajectory to pass them both in the long run -- it's gotten the most hits in the least amount of time. Woman ranting at Iraq War Fifth Anniversary Protest in S.F. is in a respectable fourth place.

zombie you da ma.... zombie!

28 rawmuse  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:43:02pm

The best site on the web just keeps getting better.

OT, but I need some help from the Lizard kingdom. My house is just too small, so I am getting rid of a bunch of books, and I think good books should be out there, letting their little light shine.

These are books by right wing authors, non-fiction, mostly political stuff. I have authors like David Horowitz, P.J O'Rourke, Ed Feulner, but also some military history (mostly Civil War, and Viet Nam) and a few religious (Christian) books. Also a few fiction books, mostly about "guy" topics (no bodice-rippers). These include hard-backs.

I can't just give away these books in the city of SF, since they will end up as land fill.

So if any Bay Area lizard wants them, they are yours for the taking. My nic is blue. They would fit in the average trunk of any sedan type car.

29 mean Gene  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:44:02pm

The soldier who was made famous carrying an injured child in Iraq has died.
[Link: www.newsday.com...]

30 Vergeltung  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:44:59pm

re: #29 mean Gene

The soldier who was made famous carrying an injured child in Iraq has died.
[Link: www.newsday.com...]

yeah, I read about that today on the Drudge report. he was originally from here on Long Island (the Mt. Sinai area). very sad story. he really lost his marbles towards the end there, and was sniffing stuff.

very sad.

31 paradox42  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:47:40pm

re: #28 rawmuse

Have you thought about putting them on Ebay. I've done that with old books and its worked out pretty good for me.

32 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:47:47pm

re: #1 NJDhockeyfan

Cool...I have dial up at home. Thanks Charles.

I'm sorry.

How do you survive?

33 zombie  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:48:28pm

re: #28 rawmuse


I can't just give away these books in the city of SF, since they will end up as land fill.

Take it from personal experience: don't even try to sell such books to a used bookstore in the Bay Area. They'll laugh you out of the store. And, in general, they won't offer you one red cent for them.

The leftists pretty much control the used book industry as well.

34 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:49:08pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Addendum here are UK Muslims complaining about Britons commemorating the real victims....
Ceremony remembers victims of 7/7


why don't we remember the dead killed overseas by the same terrorists? or the by our armed forces who drop bombs on civilians? why do they not get a date like 7/7 to mark the event of their killings and maimings.

Then I remembered I live in the west and a white western life is more valuable then a dark skinned civilians and I thank god I live in a democracy that come at the expanse of a jack book on the necks of brown and black people in the third world.


....

They will never play the full video by these murders. Why because it is all linked to the UK involvement in IRAQ and other conflicts, where the UK is getting its hand covered with blood of brown people.
35 rawmuse  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:49:34pm

re: #29 mean Gene

I have been reading about this unfortunate fellow. Covering his case in some other blogs. I am pretty sure that the services have a good way of filtering out unstable types, and I personally think that this fellow was not a typical PTSD, but was in full blown psychosis, which may be service related, or not. Veterans do not have a monopoly on mental illness, not by a long shot.

36 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:49:59pm

Dow is rebounding, by the way, and in positive territory for the day (for now). Hope! Change!

37 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:50:04pm

Speaking of idiotarians, I came across my copy of Zinn's Disobedience and Democracy this weekend. He not-so tacitly calls for the use of violence in civil disobedience.

His definition of civil disobedience "would leave open the question of the means of disobedience, but with two thoughts in mind: 1. that one of the moral principles guiding the advocate of civil disobedience is his belief that a nonviolent world is one of his ends, and that nonviolence is more desirable than violence as a means; 2. that in the inevitable tension accompanying the transition from a violent world to a nonviolent one, the choice of means will almost never be pure, and will involve such complexities that the simple distinction between violence and nonviolence does not suffice as a guide. [emphasis in the original]

Burn, baby. Burn.

38 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:50:06pm

re: #28 rawmuse

Craigslist is from your neck of the woods and works great for low-ticket items like that because it's always free.

39 rawmuse  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:50:22pm

re: #33 zombie

Yes, I know. Ebay is probably good, but frankly I don't have the time right now.

40 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:50:46pm

Oops. Close quotation mark after "guide."

41 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:52:03pm

re: #36 Occasional Reader

I'm not expecting much. I think we're in for a long haul on this. Just wait until president Obama triples the capital gains tax.

42 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:53:53pm

re: #29 mean Gene

The soldier who was made famous carrying an injured child in Iraq has died.
[Link: www.newsday.com...]

That's just an awful story.

Stand by to see it splashed about by those who have never given a damned thing as proof that we are neglecting our servicemen. This will be from the same therapy-and-counseling crowd who believe that no matter what the problem, with enough of their product, everybody could be made well. But the merciless fact is that not all wounds can be healed. Some fires cannot be put out, but will burn until everything is gone.

Rest In Peace, Pfc. Joseph Dwyer.

43 infidelia  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:54:54pm

Charles, what's the real story with this OECD prediction about the internet practically grinding to a halt in 3 years because all the available addresses will be taken unless the whole shebang shifts to something called the IPv6? Has somebody been letting the kids play with the panic buttons again?

44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:56:31pm

re: #28 rawmuse

The best site on the web just keeps getting better.

OT, but I need some help from the Lizard kingdom. My house is just too small, so I am getting rid of a bunch of books, and I think good books should be out there, letting their little light shine.

These are books by right wing authors, non-fiction, mostly political stuff. I have authors like David Horowitz, P.J O'Rourke, Ed Feulner, but also some military history (mostly Civil War, and Viet Nam) and a few religious (Christian) books. Also a few fiction books, mostly about "guy" topics (no bodice-rippers). These include hard-backs.

I can't just give away these books in the city of SF, since they will end up as land fill.

So if any Bay Area lizard wants them, they are yours for the taking. My nic is blue. They would fit in the average trunk of any sedan type car.

They're used to be a site where you could donate books to units about to deploy, cant remember the name right now

45 faraway  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:59:28pm

What is this "book" that you speak of?

46 slokat  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 12:59:37pm

re: #28 rawmuse

If need be, most churches have a library & will usually welcome 'christian' books. Also, I bet that there is a NFRW group close by that would like the conservative books?

47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:00:10pm

AHHHHH! BRAIN FREEZE! OH OH OH!

Ice cream was a bad call, DOH.

48 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:00:18pm

re: #32 rlevitin

I'm sorry.

How do you survive?

It's been tough...can't watch videos and can open only one page at a time.

I did get some good news though...Saturday our electric coop sent us a letter saying they now have BPL so I signed up. Hopefully I will have it this week. We've been waiting 4 years for it.

49 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:00:49pm

re: #36 Occasional Reader

Dow is rebounding, by the way, and in positive territory for the day (for now). Hope! Change!

Thanks for jinxing us OR.

/HOPE! CHANGE! Patoooeeey.....

50 rawmuse  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:00:53pm

re: #42 MajorPribluda

Ms. rawmuse works for the VA. I know more about it than I care to, and I volunteer a good bit there (Ft. Miley).

I look at it as a perfect microcosm of what National Health Care would be, if it ever happens. The same following axioms would hold true:
a) There are people working there who richly deserve to be dismissed, and never will be (in addition to some very good people who could be paid better in the private sector, but stay there, in other words, saints).
b) Everything costs more than it should, and takes longer than it should.
c) All care is rationed. There is not enough to go around, so, many times, you don't get care until you are very ill indeed, at which point, it could be too late.
d) The Vets deserve better, but the big problems will not be solved by bigger budgets, beyond normal inflation adjustments.

51 faraway  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:01:01pm

re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


AHHHHH! BRAIN FREEZE! OH OH OH!

Ice cream was a bad call, DOH.


Tongue to roof of mouth, hurry.

52 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:02:09pm

Anyone have any info about a new illegal-loving movie called "The Visitor"? It's supposed to be very well-made, but as biased as they come.

53 slokat  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:02:17pm

re: #50 rawmuse

That sounds like a good place for some of the books to end up, waiting room of the VA...

54 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:02:19pm

re: #41 Killgore Trout

I'm not expecting much. I think we're in for a long haul on this. Just wait until president Obama triples the capital gains tax.

Those Big Corporations will finally have to pay their fair share!

/

55 infidelia  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:02:19pm

re: #39 rawmuse

Yes, I know. Ebay is probably good, but frankly I don't have the time right now.

There's an outfit called "Got Books" that has donation bins up around our area (northeast). They're at [Link: www.gotbooks.com...] There's also your local library if they run sales as well as thrift stores and second-hand book stores. You can list used books on Amazon until someone buys them.

56 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:02:48pm

re: #45 faraway

What is this "book" that you speak of?

It's a bunch of dead trees between covers made of more dead trees.

57 jcm  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:03:16pm

Chairman of Joint Chiefs warns of attack between administrations

The United States is more vulnerable to attack in the period between now and the inauguration of a new president in January, Adm. Mike Mullen said last week.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff told soldiers at Fort Lewis, Washington June 24 that he has set up a transition team to be ready for the next administration.

“I have, in my current job, stood up a transition team because this is a great time of transition,” Mullen said. “A time of transition is very, very challenging for any institution much less an entire country. And in that time of transition, it's my belief that we as a country will be more vulnerable.”

58 rawmuse  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:03:32pm

re: #53 slokat

If you can believe it, even these were rejected. This VA is different. They even had a portrait of W in the entrance that they took down. That frankly stunned me.

59 faraway  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:03:39pm

re: #56 MandyManners

It's a bunch of dead trees between covers made of more dead trees.

I thought that was the NYT. I'm so confused.

60 slokat  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:04:43pm

re: #58 rawmuse


I believe you, but I'm still surprised...

61 infidelia  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:04:44pm

re: #57 jcm

Chairman of Joint Chiefs warns of attack between administrations

Isn't this the same guy who keeps advocating for "diplomacy" with Iran?

62 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:05:34pm

re: #34 Killgore Trout

"Then I remembered I live in the west and a white western life is more valuable then a dark skinned civilians and I thank god I live in a democracy that come at the expanse of a jack book on the necks of brown and black people in the third world."

The Hell of it is that these guys are so-o-o close, but so wrong. A white western life *is* more valuable than a dark-skinned civilian's [in the third world], but the white westerners did not make this so. It is the jack-booted thugs running these brown and black nations of the third world who have diminished their "countrymen". As if those Hellish pits should be called countries.

People from those places where mothers send their sons off to blow up in crowds of civilians may well be said to have a far lower value placed on their lives than in the West. But the difference has nothing to do with whiteness. People of all sorts are equally valued in the West, despite what the playwrights of grievance and the race-mongers tell us.

One need look no further than the butchery of blacks in Zimbabwe under rabidly anti-white Mugabe, or the millions of whites liquidated by white Communists to see that race is nothing, whereas ideology is everything, in determining the value of a life.

63 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:08:28pm

re: #54 Occasional Reader


Those Big Corporations will finally have to pay their fair share!

We had a letter published in our paper this weekend purporting to be from a business owner who said MI should get their act together on our tax structure (very true) because he, as a business owner, does not ever pay taxes as he passes it along to the customers. I know this is true in a sense, but to say that businesses pay no taxes?! Stupid and misleading.

64 faraway  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:09:00pm

But Charles, when are we going to have our own state Lizard license plate?

I want to order mine with a fake state seal.

65 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:09:28pm

I appreciate your focusing on this Charles, but I've gotta get out of here and do something vigorous, this topic just makes my blood boil.

Nearly seven mother-f*cking years, and still nothing rebuilt! *spit*

Later Lizards.

66 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:10:26pm

re: #52 Spenser (with an S)

Anyone have any info about a new illegal-loving movie called "The Visitor"? It's supposed to be very well-made, but as biased as they come.

There is a terrific John Carpenter movie, "Lonestar" that touches on race relations and illegal immigration while pursuing a decades-old mystery. Fabulous movie.

67 infidelia  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:10:29pm

re: #56 MandyManners

It's a bunch of dead trees between covers made of more dead trees.

You don't want the ones made with live trees. They tend to branch out and leaf through your other books and they bark at you when you try to take them off the shelves...

68 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:10:52pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

Woops, wrong thread. That was meant to be posted downstairs.

69 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:10:57pm

Now if you could just stick Algore under a Flippy Triangle, or something...that would really clean up the interface. And I think it might do him some good to be dynamically refreshed via Ajax.

70 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:11:08pm

re: #50 rawmuse

Ms. rawmuse works for the VA. I know more about it than I care to, and I volunteer a good bit there (Ft. Miley).

I look at it as a perfect microcosm of what National Health Care would be, if it ever happens. The same following axioms would hold true:
a) There are people working there who richly deserve to be dismissed, and never will be (in addition to some very good people who could be paid better in the private sector, but stay there, in other words, saints).
b) Everything costs more than it should, and takes longer than it should.
c) All care is rationed. There is not enough to go around, so, many times, you don't get care until you are very ill indeed, at which point, it could be too late.
d) The Vets deserve better, but the big problems will not be solved by bigger budgets, beyond normal inflation adjustments.

I concur. I did a work-study at the VA where I went to University, and while there were really many people who were wonderful, dedicated caregivers, there were also many who were not, well, so well-disposed. I can't say that the whole place was awful, as the core of folks who gave a Damn were for the most part, carrying the day. But the stolid, unresponsive nature of the place was palpable. It was a very strange, imposing kind of feeling. I don't really know how to describe it other than "Federal", and in the bad sense. (I happen to *like* our Federal government, I just wish that it would stop screwing us).
Really an unsettling place in a way that civilian hospitals were not.

71 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:11:48pm
72 jcm  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:11:55pm

re: #63 Spenser (with an S)

We had a letter published in our paper this weekend purporting to be from a business owner who said MI should get their act together on our tax structure (very true) because he, as a business owner, does not ever pay taxes as he passes it along to the customers. I know this is true in a sense, but to say that businesses pay no taxes?! Stupid and misleading.

The business may cut the check. But it's just like payroll, utility bills etc... business only have one source of income. The customer buying stuff, ALL business expenses are reflected in the price of the widget. The end consumer pays for everything in the price of the product.

73 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:11:58pm

re: #59 faraway

I thought that was the NYT. I'm so confused.

The ink in books won't come off on your hands like the ink in the NYT.

74 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:13:49pm

re: #67 infidelia

You don't want the ones made with live trees. They tend to branch out and leaf through your other books and they bark at you when you try to take them off the shelves...

LOL!

75 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:13:57pm

re: #63 Spenser (with an S)

We had a letter published in our paper this weekend purporting to be from a business owner who said MI should get their act together on our tax structure (very true) because he, as a business owner, does not ever pay taxes as he passes it along to the customers. I know this is true in a sense, but to say that businesses pay no taxes?! Stupid and misleading.

Right--just what the one-state-depression needs. More taxes. To slow that runaway economy, no doubt.

76 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:13:59pm

re: #28 rawmuse

One more before I split:

Rawmuse, if you know of a retirement home in your area, I'm sure they would be more than happy to take those books. I occasionally take some to one in my area, they love it. Whatever they don't have room for they share with other retirement homes in the area.

77 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:15:34pm

re: #63 Spenser (with an S)

We had a letter published in our paper this weekend purporting to be from a business owner who said MI should get their act together on our tax structure (very true) because he, as a business owner, does not ever pay taxes as he passes it along to the customers. I know this is true in a sense, but to say that businesses pay no taxes?! Stupid and misleading.

That is idiotic. I'd love to get my customers to pay the taxes and save all the time and gigantic aggravation.

78 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:16:51pm

re: #72 jcm

The business may cut the check. But it's just like payroll, utility bills etc... business only have one source of income. The customer buying stuff, ALL business expenses are reflected in the price of the widget. The end consumer pays for everything in the price of the product.

Agreed. "The business has no labor costs, as the pass it along to the customer". Neat accounting trick. And the business has no profits because they pass them along to the owners.

79 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:18:16pm

re: #63 Spenser (with an S)

We had a letter published in our paper this weekend purporting to be from a business owner who said MI should get their act together on our tax structure (very true) because he, as a business owner, does not ever pay taxes as he passes it along to the customers. I know this is true in a sense, but to say that businesses pay no taxes?! Stupid and misleading.

I think it's more accurate to say that when you raise corporate taxes, one or more of the following happens:

1) The increased cost is passed on to customers.
2) The increased cost is passed on to workers (in the form of lower pay/benefits).
3) The increased cost is passed on to equityholders (including, when applicable, mutual funds, 401(k)'s, etc.)
4) The company in question can no longer compete and goes out of business, depriving customers of its product, workers of its wages, and the state of its tax revenue.

Everybody wins! If by "wins", you mean "loses", of course.

80 Render  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:22:24pm

re: #29 mean Gene

re: #42 MajorPribluda

It's already happened.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

SCUMBAGS,
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81 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:23:07pm
82 rawmuse  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:24:34pm

re: #76 Slumbering Behemoth

great idea! not many retirement homes in SF, but I got a trip to Yountville coming up, and I'd bet that VA would be glad to have them.

83 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:25:09pm

re: #81 ploome hineni

..here is a must read about the dangerous liar who is the Democratic nominee for POTUS

The MSM will simply report that Obama "shifted his nuance". Yawn.

84 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:26:57pm

It would be a lie if we mere mortals were to say it, you see. But Obama transcends these pedestrian "truth/falsehood" distinctions.

85 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:29:23pm

re: #79 Occasional Reader

Everybody wins! If by "wins", you mean "loses", of course.

Yes, that's exactly what Gov. Jenny means.

86 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:32:38pm

Why Men Don't Write Advice Columns

Dear Walter: I hope you can help me here. The other day, I set off for work leaving my husband in the house watching the TV as usual. I hadn't gone more than a mile down the road when my engine conked out and the car shuddered to a halt. I walked back home to get my husband's help. When I got home I couldn't believe my eyes. He was in our bedroom with the neighbor lady. I am 32, my husband is 34, and we have been married for twelve years.

When I confronted him, he broke down and admitted that they had been having an affair for the past six months. I told him to stop or I would leave him. He was let go from his job six months ago and he says he has been feeling increasingly depressed and worthless. I love him very much, but ever since I gave him the ultimatum he has become increasingly distant. He won't go to counseling and I'm afraid I can't get through to him anymore.

Can you please help?

Sincerely, Sheila


Dear Sheila: A car stalling after being driven a short distance can be caused by a variety of faults with the engine. Start by checking that there is no debris in the fuel line. If it is clear, check the vacuum pipes and hoses on the intake manifold and also check all grounding wires. If none of these approaches solves the problem, it could be that the fuel pump itself is faulty, causing low delivery pressure to the carburetor float chamber.

I hope this helps
-Walter

87 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:36:36pm

re: #84 Occasional Reader,

But if McCain would take his thumb out of his ass, his foot off of his dick, and whatever else he needs to remove from wherever it takes to, you know, actually run for President, he'd stand a fairly good shot at it. Obama is completely vulnerable on this issue right now. 8 weeks from now it will have become accepted dogma.

What is John McCain doing right now to win the Presidency? Obama isn't going to give it to him because it's his turn.

88 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:36:58pm
89 marjoriemoon  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:38:15pm

re: #28 rawmuse

The best site on the web just keeps getting better.

OT, but I need some help from the Lizard kingdom. My house is just too small, so I am getting rid of a bunch of books, and I think good books should be out there, letting their little light shine.

These are books by right wing authors, non-fiction, mostly political stuff. I have authors like David Horowitz, P.J O'Rourke, Ed Feulner, but also some military history (mostly Civil War, and Viet Nam) and a few religious (Christian) books. Also a few fiction books, mostly about "guy" topics (no bodice-rippers). These include hard-backs.

I can't just give away these books in the city of SF, since they will end up as land fill.

So if any Bay Area lizard wants them, they are yours for the taking. My nic is blue. They would fit in the average trunk of any sedan type car.

Hey there hon. Have you checked out [Link: www.booksforsoldiers.com...] My friend turned me on to it last year, but we haven't gotten off our duff to clean out the bookcase. It's not as easy as going down to the local used bookstore, but it would probably make you feel better!

There is also this: [Link: www.anysoldier.com...] where you can find a solider that maybe likes what you read, but I don't think it matters much. Read "Where to Send", "What to Send" and "How to Send".

hugs/moonie

90 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:38:45pm

re: #87 Iron Fist

Obama isn't going to give it to him because it's his turn.

Yep, Hillary already found that out.

91 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:38:52pm

re: #29 mean Gene

I believe there should be mandatory mental health assessments for returning veterans - something we didn't get forty years ago, nor were we even asked about it. There are plenty of signs of trouble that manifest themselves, and it behooves our medical community to step up and recognize those signs and get these men and women the treatment that they need.

92 jcm  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:41:04pm

re: #83 Occasional Reader

The MSM will simply report that Obama "shifted his nuance". Yawn.

Is that like adjusting ones cup?

93 Ben Hur  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:41:13pm
The chance to discover fossils of primates in Thailand is very slim since primates can live only in an environment, which we can not know for sure, that suits them best.

Dr Yaowalak Chaimanee. Palaeontologist.

Something tells me today's Thailand is not the Thailand of 13 million years ago.

94 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:41:32pm
95 kevinmumaw  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:42:07pm

OT: Jim McGovern D-Loonytown, as well as Nancy Pelosi implicated in in FARC hostage debacle.

You have to scan down to the second to last paragraph, but, whoa!

She met at the Venezuelan presidential palace with FARC leaders last fall. From that meeting the rebels reported that "Piedad says that Chávez has Uribe going crazy. He doesn't know what to do. That Nancy Pelosi helps and is ready to help in the swap [hostages in exchange for captured guerrillas]. That she has designated [U.S. Congressman Jim] McGovern for this."

If the speaker of the House was working with Ms. Cordoba in this scheme, her judgment was more than a little misguided. The rebels write that on a trip to Argentina Ms. Cordoba told them, "It doesn't matter to me the proposal that Sarkozy has made to free Ingrid. Above all, do not liberate Ingrid." In short, why give up such a useful pawn?

96 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:44:19pm

Chess boxers slug it out

A RUSSIAN man has been crowned world champion in the novelty sport of chess boxing, a game that requires equal skill at moving pawns and throwing punches.

Mathematics student Nikolai Sazhin, 19, competing under the name "The President'' knocked out a 37-year-old German policeman Frank Stoldt, who served as a peacekeeper in Kosovo until recently.

The loser said he was simply too punch-drunk to fend off checkmate.

"I took a lot of body-blows in the fourth round and that affected my concentration. That's why I made a big mistake in the fifth round: I did not see him coming for my king,'' he said.

Berlin is home to the world's biggest chess boxing club with some 40 members and it is in an old freight station here that the two men settled the matter early yesterday.

97 jcm  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:44:55pm

re: #95 kevinmumaw

OT: Jim McGovern D-Loonytown, as well as Nancy Pelosi implicated in in FARC hostage debacle.

You have to scan down to the second to last paragraph, but, whoa!

I hear FARC needs some hostages. I think that Pelousy would be perfect for the job.

98 Ben Hur  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:45:23pm

Hamas: Ceasefire is over


In exclusive interview, spokesman for Islamist group blames Israel's failure to implement conditions of truce as cause. 'Facts on the ground prove Israel isn't interested in a truce,' says Fawzi Barhoum (07.07.08)

Silly Jews.

99 Beobachter  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:45:48pm

Charles, I like the new features a lot, as it does make LGF load faster.

How difficult would it be to add one more entry at the end of the lists, when a flippy is open, that says 'close this list / flippy', or something to that effect? That way, one wouldn't have to move the page back up to the top.

BTW, I do like the Headline flippy a lot. That way, I do not have to reload the page, when I want to see if there are any new entries, because I spend a lot of time in the related link section.

Keep up the great work and thanks for all your efforts.

100 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:46:41pm

re: #92 jcm

re: #83 Occasional Reader

The MSM will simply report that Obama "shifted his nuance". Yawn.

Is that like adjusting ones cup?


So in this photo, he's "shifting his nuance"?

101 bosforus  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:48:31pm

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

Chess boxers slug it out

After a knockout I bet you yelling "Check mate mother f*r" is frowned upon.

102 jcm  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:48:32pm

re: #100 wrenchwench

So in this photo, he's "shifting his nuance"?

Video of shifting nuance!

103 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:51:34pm

re: #98 Ben Hur

Hamas: Ceasefire is over

I thought the rocket fire pretty much was proof of that

104 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:52:25pm

re: #102 jcm

Video of shifting nuance!

But don't worry, you can count on the press corps for objective coverage.

105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:53:33pm

re: #102 jcm

Video of shifting nuance!

Is anyone tingling?

106 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:54:15pm

re: #105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Is anyone tingling?

My stomach is. Oh wait, that's nausea.

107 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:55:17pm
108 jcm  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:58:25pm

re: #106 Occasional Reader

My stomach is. Oh wait, that's nausea.

Tsk! Nothing to worry about, those enthralled with BHO's "nuance" are the one 98% of American's listen to when forming their voting decision.

On second thought.
*HURL*

109 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 1:58:49pm

re: #102 jcm

Was that on this flight?

Barack Obama's plane made an unscheduled landing in St. Louis Monday after "an emergency slide located in the tail cone of the plane deployed in flight," according to the airline that owns the chartered plane.
110 nyc redneck  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:00:42pm

re: #88 ploome hineni

he lied

i hope he keeps lying. he's going to get tangled up in it.

and fck the msm. and the polls which will show b.o. vastly ahead of mccain. of course this is to demoralize us. they will predict that b.o. will be the inevitable winner.
they predicted carter would beat reagan, too. well reagan won by an avalanche. and there was no big talk radio or internet to help him. (also b.o. is a much worse candidate than carter.)
most people don't want marxism and higher taxes. they want to be left alone. and b.o. is pushing the european socialist nirvana.

111 jcm  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:00:52pm

Radio reported re. Obama's plane.

The aft emergency slide deployed while in flight, the tail cone did not separate.

112 jcm  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:01:25pm

re: #109 wrenchwench

Was that on this flight?

Somebody wanted off....
BADLY!

113 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:05:22pm

re: #111 jcm

The aft emergency slide deployed while in flight

Talk about a tingle. Obama gave an airplane a boner.

114 snopercod  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 2:08:35pm

re: #7 Charles

The flippy triangles are MUCH better. I use to hate it when my mouse would inadvertently roll over the left sidebar area and all these sub-menus would pop up, spoiling my viewing pleasure.

You da MAN!

117 free  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 3:58:32pm

love all the changes, this is a great website and you are much appreciated. must feel very good to know you have built this site and not just some out of the box generic website.

118 FurryOldGuyJeans  Mon, Jul 7, 2008 5:52:29pm

OOooh, lgf loads faster for this firefox 2 Win98SE user. While I like the less loading time, I am sure Charles likes the less bandwidth being used when each page loads even better. I would hate to see what his monthly bandwidth charges are, eeeep! Even his weekly charges would be a lot I would say.


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