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The Obama Youth

Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:58:33 am PDT

Here’s an utterly ludicrous statement from Barack Obama that’s flown under the radar so far; he is planning a “civilian national security force” that is as powerful and well-funded as the US military.

Obama promised to increase AmeriCorps slots from 75,000 to 250,000 and pledged to double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011. ...

Obama had first outlined many of the proposals he talked about Wednesday during appearances in Iowa last December.

“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” he said Wednesday. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

Notice that he also says he plans to increase the size of the active military.

Is he even aware that the Department of Defense’s current base budget is close to $500 billion? Obama is going to create a civilian force with this level of funding and equipment? To do what?

(Hat tip: Exurban League.)

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1 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:59:18am

Duetschland, deutschland......

2 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:59:33am

Obama's world conquest, Your tax dollars.

3 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:59:53am

Will they wear brown shirts?

4 zmdavid  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:12am
Is he even aware that the Department of Defense’s current base budget is close to $500 billion? Obama is going to create a civilian force with this level of funding and equipment? To do what?


Community Organizing?

5 WitchDoctor  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:25am

Does General Petraus get to be Ernst Rohm in this version?

Dang, I hate conspiracy crap, but if this doesn't sound like the SA I don't know what does?

6 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:38am
To do what?

To work in the Arugula fields.

7 Cap'n DOC  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:41am
Is he even aware that the Department of Defense’s current base budget is close to $500 billion? Obama is going to create a civilian force with this level of funding and equipment? To do what?

Cuz it sounds good.

8 Sir Napsalot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:41am

Scary.

And they accuse the Republicans using scare tactics.

9 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:51am
a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.

How....progressive.

10 quickjustice  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:01:11am

Is this his backhanded way of re-instituting the draft? More likely, it's his way of employing the unemployable.

11 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:01:40am

re: #9 Sharmuta

How....progressive.

Absolutely!

A leopard can't change his spots ...

12 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:01:55am

Like I asked last weekend on this.

What color will be the shirts?
Brown or Black.

13 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:01:59am

Every dictator needs their own personal army - the Pratorian Guard, the SS, The Imperial Guard - so this make sense to me.

14 Summer  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:05am
Obama is going to create a civilian force with this level of funding and equipment? To do what?

Well, if his friends have any say in the matter, I would suspect to arrest Jews.

15 inkling  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:05am

Thank you kindly for the link, Charles!

16 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:07am

re: #11 Lucius Septimius

Absolutely!

A leopard can't change his spots ...

But it's smiley face fascism, so it's "okay".

17 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:16am

re: #10 quickjustice

Is this his backhanded way of re-instituting the draft? More likely, it's his way of employing the unemployable.

Just like how Uncle Adolf "cured" Germany's unemployment.

Not like we have that problem, but don't tell the Dems.

18 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:18am

re: #3 rawmuse

Will they wear brown shirts?

Woven out of the finest hemp!

19 rightside  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:19am

To whom would they have to swear allegiance? The obamessiah?

20 JohnnyReb  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:23am

To do what? Pretty much anything they want to if it actually happens. $500 billion a year can make a pretty fancy organization with about 2 million people or so. Granted I can't see them needing aircraft carriers or submarines so maybe they could get their numbers over 3 million.

21 FQ Kafir  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:25am

Souljahs.

22 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:28am

re: #12 jcm

Like I asked last weekend on this.

What color will be the shirts?
Brown or Black.

Pink.

23 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:33am

The volunteers will be put to work guarding the ones who failed to volunteer.

24 Macker  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:55am
25 Consumer  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:56am

I sure hope this change doesn't come about.

26 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:10am

re: #15 inkling

Thank you kindly for the link, Charles!

Congrats on your hat tip, dude.

27 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:11am

re: #13 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Mine would be made up entirely of lovely lasses.

28 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:12am

Here's some ideas to help him.

29 Dahveed  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:25am

There was a guy on Medved's show last week who was in the Peace Corps for a few months. He just got back because of a family emergency. He said he was down in Honduras and that the people down there don't really want our help. The guy from the Peace Corps said it is a huge waste of time and money. Which is why, I suppose, the liberals like it.

30 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:26am

Seriously, the dude's way out of his depth.

You got a Constitutional barriers to a National Armed Security Force with military powers.

31 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:32am

oh how nice....I guess this would be Obama's Schultzstaffel (or in this case maybe "Shutzwaffle")

32 mbruce  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:46am

Darth Obama's clone army, Jedi beware.

33 turn  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:53am

The mindset of the Leftist is one of deliberate ignorance.

34 loppyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:03am

Brown Shirts?

35 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:08am

Posse comitatus says hi.

36 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:35am

re: #24 Macker

The Perfect Poster

Sweeeeeet!

37 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:55am

re: #33 turn

The mindset of the Leftist is one of deliberate aggressive ignorance.

Fixed it.

38 francisco d'anconia  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:56am

Ok this really does scare the crap out of me. he's forming the Obama youth. and the youth today are just stupid enough and ignorant of history to fall for it.

39 inkling  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:59am

re: #13 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It reminds me of third-world governments which have a "Presidential Guard" designed solely to protect the leader from the military and police forces. Look at Haiti's Tonton Macoutes to see how well that arrangement works out...

40 pegcity  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:05:05am

So stormtroopers or SS?

41 turn  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:05:05am

Stole that quote from Vijay Kumar

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

42 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:05:24am

re: #35 jaunte

Posse comitatus says hi.

Zactly.

43 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:05:55am

re: #23 jaunte

The volunteers will be put to work guarding the ones who failed to volunteer.

Indeed. Those not interested in supporting the state Dear Leader would be intimidated by those who do.

44 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:05am

So the Dem's complain we can't get enough volunteers currently, but plan to expand the Armed Services?

Can you say Draft?

45 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:06am

Of course it's in the Chicago Tribune.

46 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:07am

re: #27 Lucius Septimius

Mine would be made up entirely of lovely lasses.

The Piece Corps?

/sorry, i just had to

/ducking now

47 Fast Eddie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:11am

These stupid statements fly out of Obama on a daily basis. But unless the McCain campaign starts jumping on them - very quickly - and deriding them for the inanities they are, he will get away with it.

48 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:13am

re: #38 francisco d'anconia

Ok this really does scare the crap out of me. he's forming the Obama youth. and the youth today are just stupid enough and ignorant of history to fall for it.

Fall for it? They will eat it with a spoon to get every drop!

49 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:33am
“We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

Well then they'll have nukes and boomers too.

50 loppyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:34am
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” he said Wednesday. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

Man. If we thought Clinton slashed the defense budget, imagine what this clown will do.

51 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:47am

re: #43 Sharmuta

See also the Chavez "Bolivarian Circles."

52 Macker  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:07:30am

re: #50 loppyd

Man. If we thought Clinton slashed the defense budget, imagine what this clown will do.

He ain't no clown. I ain't laughing.

53 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:07:35am

re: #31 WrathofG-d

Schutzwaffel! I love it!

Or "Waffel Schutzstaffen" (easily photo shopped poster)

54 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:07:48am

re: #24 Macker

Wow, when you tie

"Barack Obama is going to require you to work... Barack will never allow you to go back to your life as usual." -Michelle Obama

with the above, and the rest of Obama's promises to force us to serve his America.....

It is frightening.

55 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:08:06am

re: #40 pegcity

So stormtroopers or SS?

Like Wrath said.

56 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:08:15am

The simplest explanation for all this is, that Obama is nuts.

57 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:08:19am

I consider this statement a fundamental lie. He probably will increase AmeriCorps and Peace Corps, but his definition of national security is nationalized pacifism. These organizations will be involved in all kinds of social engineering--like keeping track of kids who say "Yuk" at being served multicultural food they do not like.

58 ErnieG  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:08:32am

Will they have torchlight parades, and rallies in huge outdoor stadiums? I'll bet it would make a great movie.

59 ubu roi  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:08:45am

Obama, like most people who have wandered the halls of academe too long, thinks of work as akin to work-study, that is, lots of government funded make-believe work. AmeriCorps is a perfect example of this mindset. It is a giant scam as it is, imagine the scale of the corruption if it received real money. They are phony jobs programs to provide imaginary community service for communities that don't exist; real communities don't need phony volunteer programs because they have real people who really volunteer.

60 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:08:52am

Why doesn't Obama come up with a snappy name for his youth corps? Something that says, adventure and progressive? Something that makes the kids feel like they are at the cutting edge... I've got it, how about 'Young Pioneers'?

61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:08:58am

re: #31 WrathofG-d

oh how nice....I guess this would be Obama's Schultzstaffel (or in this case maybe "Shutzwaffle")

Shutzwaffle! ROTFLMAO!

62 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:07am

The real trouble will start when the Obama Youth Brigades go house to house on weapons sweeps.

I'm not worried that he can actually accomplish something like this.

It's that he thinks he can.

He has a 5 year olds comprehension of leadership.

63 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:33am

re: #53 Lucius Septimius

Schutzwaffel! I love it!

Or "Waffel Schutzstaffen" (easily photo shopped poster)

The Waffle SS!

64 Ceemack  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:38am
"...a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”


That's not a Hitler Youth...that's a Gestapo.

Posse Commitatus Act, anybody?

65 neoconkat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:44am

That the Imperial Death March I hear coming from Obama's campaign headquaters? It is, it is!

66 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:45am

Do you think he is aware that our military is made up of civilians?

67 francisco d'anconia  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:50am

seriously this hut is nuts. I dont see how you can promote volunteer community service by making it compulsory. community service hours for highs school graduation? last time i checked, the students actually being in high school and learning instaed of on the streets gangbanging was a community service. A generation of those dedicated to "public service" just means a generation who follows the state and venerates the state more than the individual.

68 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:55am

re: #62 jcm

"Neighborhood Gun Safety Awareness Outreach."

69 Avery Bullard  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:00am

can the camps not be far behind? BHO is not the answer....

70 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:01am

re: #61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Waffle SS.

71 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:01am

re: #62 jcm

The real trouble will start when the Obama Youth Brigades go house to house on weapons sweeps.

I'm not worried that he can actually accomplish something like this.

It's that he thinks he can.

He has a 5 year olds comprehension of leadership.

He'll get the Chief Joints of Staff right on it......

72 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:11am

re: #24 Macker

The Perfect Poster

This is on that poster:

"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual." ~ Michelle Obama, February 2008

My hell, she actually said that.

73 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:17am

re: #64 Ceemack

That's not a Hitler Youth...that's a Gestapo.

Posse Commitatus Act, anybody?

Just as long as he ain't touchin' MY posse.

74 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:23am

re: #58 ErnieG

Will they have torchlight parades, and rallies in huge outdoor stadiums? I'll bet it would make a great movie.

He's already rented out Denver's Stadium...

75 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:31am
76 turn  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:32am

Another great quote from the interview at the link in #41

"And as we can see in the Obama campaign, you can talk about change as long as you serve the same menu of old ideas with a new smile."

77 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:51am

re: #64 Ceemack

That's not a Hitler Youth...that's a Gestapo.

Posse Commitatus Act, anybody?

Pfffttt just some words written down by typical dead white guys.
///

78 zmdavid  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:52am

re: #58 ErnieG

Will they have torchlight parades, and rallies in huge outdoor stadiums? I'll bet it would make a great movie.

Hmmm, aren't the Democrats using the football stadium in Denver for their convention.

79 pegcity  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:58am

When does Obama get his fancy military getup?

80 roberth  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:11:06am

As a mathematician, I believe I can boil down Obama and his policies into a simple equation:

Obama/Fascism = 1

81 barb42  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:11:07am

re: #4 zmdavid

Community Organizing?

Well, community organizing is his base experience. It would be natural to pull on that experience if he is to impose his vision on the world.

You know, this is starting to sound a bit too imperial, what with all the promises of a chicken in every pot, expanding government and the Brandenburg Gate tour and all. You don't think he really believes Princess Caroline passed the crown to him, do you? But then, with Crown Prince John gone from the scene someone has to pick it up, I suppose.

82 rabidsquirrel  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:11:16am

Pax Obama. The Peace Corps will maintain peace, no matter what the cost, or how many they have to kill.

83 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:11:18am

If exurban league could redo this poster (posted above also) a bit to remove the "snappy uniforms" part, and the (most likely copyrighted "Obey" star) it would be fun to see posters made out of them and have them posted around the cities.

a bit of a counter to this I guess.

84 opinionated  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:11:20am

Building a Praetorian Guard so that as he fiddles while the US goes down the drain Emperor President Obama has protection from the raging mobs.

85 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:11:25am

re: #60 coquimbojoe

Why doesn't Obama come up with a snappy name for his youth corps? Something that says, adventure and progressive? Something that makes the kids feel like they are at the cutting edge... I've got it, how about 'Young Pioneers'?

or ChangeCorps...

86 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:11:36am

re: #71 coquimbojoe

He'll get the Chief Joints of Staff right on it......

HIS Chief of Stiff Joints.

87 mglazer  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:11:50am

Do you have to be muslim to join?

88 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:12:18am
Obama promised to increase AmeriCorps slots from 75,000 to 250,000 and pledged to double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011. ...

Someone doesn't understand the challenges of the post- 9/11 world.

He should be encouraging those people to enlist.

89 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:12:26am

re: #87 mglazer

Do you have to be muslim to join?

Officer corp.

90 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:12:35am

I don't think he has a clue what things cost. That and he's throwing out every leftist idea hoping that something sticks in the collective consciousness or hits the right note with enough Americans that he can win in November.

91 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:12:41am

re: #10 quickjustice

Is this his backhanded way of re-instituting the draft? More likely, it's his way of employing the unemployable.

No, its his way of putting a lot of left-leaning kids to work on things like registering (Democrat) voters and "volunteering" for organizations that support the left's agenda. It also sucks a lot of kids who haven't developed a strong political philosophy into various leftist indoctrination programs. All paid for at US taxpayer expense.

92 ErnieG  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:12:42am

re: #74 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yes, but Leni Riefenstahl isn't available.

93 limitbreak22  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:11am

Obama need his own Private Military Corp. He then can use his new minions to usurp the US Constitution and enact his socialist state....

/sarc

But seriously this isn't needed at all.

94 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:15am

Obama Youth = Comp Force/COMPNOR

"CompForce was the military wing of COMPNOR, created to provide Emperor Palpatine with an army of utterly loyal soldiers separate from the Imperial Stormtrooper Corps. Stormtroopers were trained to obey orders without thinking, but at the same time, they were proudly independent of the line military; CompForce units, in contrast, were embedded within the hierarchy of the Imperial Army and Imperial Navy, and their members were motivated primarily by conscious adherence to the tenets of the New Order. In theory, they were shock troops and officer candidates; in effect, they were security troops and political police, answerable to the New Order's ideologues rather than the High Command—an army within the Army, designed to tighten the grip of the Imperial hierarchy on the military."

95 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:17am

re: #92 ErnieG

Yes, but Leni Riefenstahl isn't available.

Ah, but Michael Moore is.

96 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:32am

re: #90 lawhawk

I don't think he has a clue what things cost. That and he's throwing out every leftist idea hoping that something sticks in the collective consciousness or hits the right note with enough Americans that he can win in November.

Notice that this was re-published on AARP's site.

97 Macker  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:44am

re: #84 opinionated

Building a Praetorian Guard so that as he fiddles while the US goes down the drain Emperor President Obama has protection from the raging mobs.

Praetorian Guard, you say...

98 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:48am

re: #56 Ojoe

The simplest explanation for all this is, that Obama is nuts.

No- he's a progressive- in the more classical sense of the word, and by that I mean he's a fascist.

Fascists require a myth, they require movement (think CHANGE!), and they require youth. Fascists will embrace whatever talking point will promote their cause and embrace another that is counter to the first when it promotes their cause.

The more I learn of obama the more clear it becomes to me that he is in fact a fascist. With a smiley face.

99 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:54am

re: #90 lawhawk

I don't think he has a clue what things cost. That and he's throwing out every leftist idea hoping that something sticks in the collective consciousness or hits the right note with enough Americans that he can win in November.

It's the governments money, so what's yer beef? The government just has money!
//////////////

100 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:14:00am

re: #95 Ward Cleaver

Ah, but Michael Moore is.

He's not a tenth the cinematographer that Leni was.

101 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:14:17am

re: #71 coquimbojoe

He'll get the Chief Joints of Staff right on it......

When President Bush makes a malapropism, it's front page news & fodder for a whole cottage industry. But when the Messiah says something like this...

102 mglazer  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:14:20am

re: #93 limitbreak22


That's how the nazi party took over the German government

103 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:14:45am

re: #98 Sharmuta

The more I learn of obama the more clear it becomes to me that he is in fact a fascist. With a smiley face.

Just like on the cover of Jonah Goldberg's book.

104 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:14:48am

re: #100 Lucius Septimius

He's not a tenth the cinematographer that Leni was.

That's true, except in his mind.

105 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:15:35am

re: #74 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He's already rented out Denver's Stadium...


The DNC is short on money for this convention, and yet they're renting out a bigger stadium for his coronation, even as it's the only part of the 4 days (or is it 3?) for which the networks will provide wall-to-wall coverage. In other words, he could be in a room by himself accepting the nomination and he'd have the same national reach as if he was in a big stadium.

Of course, it also begs the question what happens if it rains when he's supposed to be accepting the nomination? Why take chances and impose additional costs of multiple venues.

Again, goes back to the fact that he couldn't care less what things cost. It's all about image.

106 Venezuela lover  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:15:44am

Obama's civilian workers sound like Hugo Chavez' communist Bolivarian Circles. These are armed civilians groups that answer to him only. The Circles run the local governments and are immune from prosecution. If you have ever seen little 3 year old chinese children in military uniforms, then you know what Chavez wants.

Obama wants everything to be communist. This is the first step. I am amazed he stated it before the election.

107 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:15:58am

re: #92 ErnieG

Yes, but Leni Riefenstahl isn't available.

Speilberg, Soderheim, Danny Glover, Sean Penn, etc., etc., will be more than happy to pitch in.

108 limitbreak22  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:16:15am

re: #102 mglazer

That's how the nazi party took over the German government

And that's the truely scary part. America is so obessed with celeb worship and his rockstar "change" movement he could do it and they wouldn't even know, or would be willing accomplises.

109 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:16:32am

re: #99 jcm

Yeah, Hillary was doing the same thing. All these entitlements and government programs but not a hint of where the money is going to come from.

110 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:17:05am

Maybe someone could splice this video with some of Obama's speeches?

although I do question my own brilliance with equating Obama with Missolini. (I don't like Obama..but he is no Fascist)

111 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:17:14am

if the main requirements of the obama force is to eat cheetos, drink mountain dew and surf the internet all day...well then he may just have a real following there..oh wait he aready has that, its called his support base...lol. a-typical obama supporter, pasty white skin, orange fingers.

112 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:18:11am

re: #111 Spider Mensch

*puts away cheetos*

113 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:19:19am

re: #111 Spider Mensch

lol. a-typical obama supporter, pasty white skin, orange fingers.

Racist!

114 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:19:21am

And, FYI, the fascists in Italy wore black shirts.

115 faraway  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:19:23am

Obama Youth March:

left, left, left
change step
surrender, mark time, surrender
counter column, march
left, left, left

116 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:19:29am

Sorry if this was mentioned, but where is he planning on finding these civilian "volunteers"?

Will this be some sort of a backdoor draft?

117 StinkHammer  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:19:44am

re: #109 Killgore Trout

All these entitlements and government programs but not a hint of where the money is going to come from.

We know exactly what he has in mind for funding such exuberances: "Tax the ever-lovin' piss outta them awful rich people who don't deserve to have all that ill-gained money!"

/kneejerk leftist retort

118 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:19:53am

Uniforms for the Barack Brigades...... (eye bleach may be necessary)

119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:20:24am

re: #117 StinkHammer

We know exactly what he has in mind for funding such exuberances: "Tax the ever-lovin' piss outta them awful rich people who don't deserve to have all that ill-gained money!"

/kneejerk leftist retort

Rich Person = anyone with a full time job

120 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:20:24am

re: #110 WrathofG-d

Maybe someone could splice this video with some of Obama's speeches?

although I do question my own brilliance with equating Obama with Missolini. (I don't like Obama..but he is no Fascist)



Or could do something like the scene in "Crimes and Misdemeanors"

121 Gollygoshkins  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:20:25am

Civilian Security Force? There's another name for it: the KGB.

Speakin of our good vodka swilling friends, they've just promised to react military if you guys ratify the czech defence shield treaty.

122 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:20:29am

re: #110 WrathofG-d

Maybe someone could splice this video with some of Obama's speeches?

although I do question my own brilliance with equating Obama with Missolini. (I don't like Obama..but he is no Fascist)

His ideologies certainly lead to fascism.....

123 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:20:58am

re: #116 rlevitin

Sorry if this was mentioned, but where is he planning on finding these civilian "volunteers"?

Will this be some sort of a backdoor draft?

Would I be evil for dodging it?

124 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:11am

Apparently, the FBI's Washington DC rapid reaction force is the closest thing we have to a true 'praetorian guard.'

/Of course, being thoroughly professional they don't care which 'emperor' sits on the throne...

125 StinkHammer  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:14am

re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rich Person = anyone with a full time job

Well, that goes without saying.

126 loppyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:41am

re: #105 lawhawk

Again, goes back to the fact that he couldn't care less what things cost. It's all about image.

They are pulling out all of the stops to make people believe he is the second coming. I think that by August most people will be sick of him - if they aren't already.

127 blangwort  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:41am

So, as President, he would spend Pentagon-budget funding levels on a youth force that he didn't elaborate on except to portray it in terms of national security.

I'll bet if McCain proposed such a thing, those nice people in the LLL would have a field day with it, accusing him of planning genocide. So, what's a workforce of this size going to be used for?

Curious mind want to know what he'd do if he got this sort of funding...

128 Dad O' Blondes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:45am

Exactly how does AmeriCorps contribute to the national defense?

Obama's statement is worse than wrong -- it's senseless.

.

129 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:52am

re: #116 rlevitin

I know that if I needed an idiot pool of violent leftists....i'd get them from College!

Oh wait, this is exactly where Obama plans on getting them, just read his speech.

~I should add however that we might be being a bit too cynical about this. Arming the youth and devoting them to their Country might not necessarily be a horrible idea. I don't want to pay for it however, as I am sure there is a hitch.

130 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:18am

re: #123 Fat Jolly Penguin

Would I be evil for dodging it?

Evil? You'll be some sort of traitor... I spy for corporate america, that just wants violence and poverty on the streets! How dare you not volunteer for civilian service!

/

131 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:28am

re: #126 loppyd

Well, I'm certainly sick of him!

132 ladycatnip  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:36am

The Obama youth, coupled with his Brain Trust will make for a formidable dictatorship.

133 loppyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:40am

re: #128 Dad O' Blondes

Exactly how does AmeriCorps contribute to the national defense?

Obama's statement is worse than wrong -- it's senseless.

.

Why, hammering nails and stacking sand bags of course!

134 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:44am

re: #122 coquimbojoe

His ideologies certainly lead to fascism.....

Which is why he has so many of them supporting him. I don't think Obama's a fascist either, but those of his supporters who are know they can take his ideas to the next level and impose real fascism/communism/what-have-you.

135 Opinionated  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:49am

I know where they can train:

Hamas's Central Committee for Summer Camps (CCSC) announced on July 1 the launching of approximately 800 summer camps in the Gaza Strip, where more than 150,000 children will spend their summer vacation.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

136 Beach Lover  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:54am

Does anyone else starting to get reminded of "The Left Behind" book series and (the book of Revelations)how the Antichrist took over the country?

this guy is getting scarier and scarier by the day - what is wrong with McCain!? Boy, how I wish he could get some spunk (OK, balls) and give a Zell Miller type speech ...giving quotes of all Obama's spewings. He'd win in a landslide!

137 Aylios  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:54am

Holy smoking cow.

Please please please don't elect this guy!

138 loppyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:56am

re: #131 Dianna

Well, I'm certainly sick of him!

You and me both, Sistah Sledge.

139 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:23:02am

Overlapping, duplicate, competitive security and military setups are a hallmark of modern dictatorships. BO's storm troop fantasy makes my blood run cold.

140 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:23:11am

Comparisons to the Nazis and Hitler Youth are a bit extreme. Obama is not a fascist.

A better comparison would be to the Youth Camps set up by Fidel Castro in the 1960's and 70's which were a mix of forced labor, socialist indoctrination and wild nights of partying and sex.

141 faraway  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:23:24am

Why do all tyrants have a cool single name?

Hitler, Napolean, Nero, Saddam, Obama

142 ErnieG  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:23:24am

re: #103 Lucius Septimius

Just like on the cover of Jonah Goldberg's book.

When I read Liberal Fascism I realized why the book was so hard to find in mainstream book stores. Goldberg absolutely nails the liberalism/progressivism/fascism/totalitarian link.

143 Venezuela lover  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:23:26am

re: #105 lawhawk

The DNC is short on money for this convention, and yet they're renting out a bigger stadium for his coronation, even as it's the only part of the 4 days (or is it 3?) for which the networks will provide wall-to-wall coverage. In other words, he could be in a room by himself accepting the nomination and he'd have the same national reach as if he was in a big stadium.

Of course, it also begs the question what happens if it rains when he's supposed to be accepting the nomination? Why take chances and impose additional costs of multiple venues.

Again, goes back to the fact that he couldn't care less what things cost. It's all about image.

At least the weather will be nice for the convention.
Denver weather
I hope the protesters can get inside the stadium. It will make for some great TV.

144 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:23:54am

re: #118 coquimbojoe

Uniforms for the Barack Brigades...... (eye bleach may be necessary)

Link didn't work.....

145 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:11am

re: #116 rlevitin

Will this be some sort of a backdoor draft?

I don't think so- I think there will be plenty of people willing to join so they can browbeat the remainder of the population into doing the will of Dear Leader.

146 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:12am

All these hundreds of thousands of youth, rushing out to do "community service" to earn the financial reward (See, here Obama understands that capitalism - a reward for an action, is the only thing that really will work), all these youth will NOT find an equal number of leftist and rightist causes, or very many that are apolitical.

No, instead they will find thousands of leftist groups eager to get their hands on new recruits and teach them the "truth." We think kids are brainwashed NOW, with just school and the media working on them. Wait until millions of kids are physically and emotionally invested in these leftist causes.

147 Vergeltung  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:14am

re: #95 Ward Cleaver

Ah, but Michael Moore is.

he does not have her talent.

148 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:21am

re: #135 Opinionated

I know where they can train:

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

There are some lovely videos in the documentary "relentless" showing Arafat's Fatah version. I can only imagine how Hamas' would look!

149 yma o hyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:21am

re: #98 Sharmuta

No- he's a progressive- in the more classical sense of the word, and by that I mean he's a fascist.

Fascists require a myth, they require movement (think CHANGE!), and they require youth. Fascists will embrace whatever talking point will promote their cause and embrace another that is counter to the first when it promotes their cause.

The more I learn of obama the more clear it becomes to me that he is in fact a fascist. With a smiley face.

Agree - and we know that LLL and fascism do meet and overlap.
It all fits.

Obama Youth - community service = 'Arbeitsdienst' - and the older members of these groups can later seamlessly merge into some Obama secret police/lager police ...

150 Aylios  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:22am

re: #112 jaunte

*puts away cheetos*

lmao xD

151 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:47am

re: #141 faraway

Why do all tyrants have a cool single name?

Hitler, Napolean, Nero, Saddam, Obama

"Lucius" -- I like the sound of that ...

"Lucius! Lucius! Lucius!" I can hear it now ...

152 Opinionated  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:53am

re: #116 rlevitin

Sorry if this was mentioned, but where is he planning on finding these civilian "volunteers"?

Will this be some sort of a backdoor draft?

[Link: cache.eb.com...]

153 yma o hyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:25:11am

re: #100 Lucius Septimius

He's not a tenth the cinematographer that Leni was.

Be thankful for small mercies ...

154 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:25:36am

*shudder*

155 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:25:45am

re: #138 loppyd

The empty rhetoric, the incoherent, contradictory domestic proposals, and his hopeless incomprehension of foreign affairs have been irritating me for months.

What is the matter with the American people? He ought to be sent back to Chicago!

And, yes, I know; this isn't helping Michelle's children.

156 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:26:00am

re: #141 faraway

Why do all tyrants have a cool single name?

Hitler, Napolean, Nero, Saddam, Obama

Are you calling Elvis a tyrant?

157 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:26:00am

re: #140 Ringo the Gringo

I agree with Venezuelalover's 106.
"According to a study by Brigham Young University scholars, the "Bolivarian circles" also help the government identify opponents, who are then denied services." [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

158 Vergeltung  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:26:02am

re: #106 Venezuela lover

Obama's civilian workers sound like Hugo Chavez' communist Bolivarian Circles. These are armed civilians groups that answer to him only. The Circles run the local governments and are immune from prosecution. If you have ever seen little 3 year old chinese children in military uniforms, then you know what Chavez wants.
Obama wants everything to be communist. This is the first step. I am amazed he stated it before the election.

the irony there is that he and his policies are a complete anathema to what Simon Bolivar stood for, and fought for.....

159 limitbreak22  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:26:08am
Comparisons to the Nazis and Hitler Youth are a bit extreme. Obama is not a fascist.

A better comparison would be to the Youth Camps set up by Fidel Castro in the 1960's and 70's which were a mix of forced labor, socialist indoctrination and wild nights of partying and sex.

You mean like the bulk majority of colleges in America today?

160 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:26:24am

re: #122 coquimbojoe

This may, or may not be true. But it is now way too early to start the "hitler" name calling we rightly criticized the Leftists of doing.

Interestingly enough, I have been asking myself lately how the Right will respond of McCain doesn't win. I wonder if we will respond the way we suggested the Left do during Bush's terms, or if we will just become the whiny, complaining, "Obama is Hitler" types we criticized the Left of being. I expect to snidely say alot of "Respect the Office", in the upcoming 4 years.

161 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:26:47am

As discussed in a thread last week when this came up: Tempting as it is to read this as a proposal for Círculos Bolivarianos and brown shirts, I think it reads more like typical Barry unthinking blather. He calls it a "a civilian national security force", but it seems to have nothing to do with security. It's feel-good crap about teenagers doing "national service". I'm really not worried about having to stock up on ammo to face down the Barry Brigades. (Not based on this, anyway.)

162 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:26:50am

From TypicalWhitey's BHO blog.

[Link: hotair.com...]

163 ErnieG  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:27:15am

re: #156 Silhouette

Are you calling Elvis a tyrant?

Or Liberace?

164 yma o hyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:27:29am

re: #119 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rich Person = anyone with a full time job

Rich person - any taxpayer who doesn't also get some state benefits ...

165 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:27:35am

re: #163 ErnieG

Or Liberace?

Or, Gumby?

166 loppyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:27:42am

re: #155 Dianna

Here, eat some arugula. Better?

167 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:27:44am

He won't need to draft people into this. They will willingly sign up so that their thuggish fantasies will then carry an air of legitimacy.

168 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:27:54am

re: #160 WrathofG-d

True on the Hitler thing, BUT -- I think it's fair to point out the connections between Obama's ideology and fascism; there is a strong kinship going back to the Progressive era.

169 yesandno  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:27:56am

Could he be ANY MORE ignorant?

Let's have another group of people walking around in charge. And who is in charge of the In Charge? And while they debate that, who is going to actually do some work on anything?

Change......what is left after you pay for all this increased security...

Throw money at everything and see what works...so we will know what doesn't work and throw more money at it.....

No need to ask what he is thinking....he isn't. He throws out all of this crap and doesn't even know what he is saying. STUPID. And worse, pandering STUPID.

170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:28:05am

I found the perfect uniform for the Obama Youth!

171 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:28:35am
172 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:28:37am

re: #164 yma o hyd

Rich person - any taxpayer who doesn't also get some state benefits ...

Rich person = tax payer.

They haven't killed the goose that lays the golden egg yet, but they're definitely chasing it around the yard with an axe.

173 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:29:07am

re: #169 yesandno

Could he be ANY MORE ignorant?

You really don't want to know the answer to that, do you?

174 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:29:31am

With millions of well-indoctrinated eyes and ears out there; it shouldn't take too long to identify all the homophobes, Zionists, male chauvinists, Islamophobes, hate-speakers, and (last but not least) embittered gun-owners; and get them into mandatory rehab.

175 EE  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:29:38am

Obama likes to skip formalities, like voting. In a letter sent to me under his name, he wrote: "That's the party I'm proud to lead as your nominee for President of the United States." Odd that already claims the title even though the convention voting has not been done. Legalities don't really matter to him.

Is he even aware that the Department of Defense’s current base budget is close to $500 billion? Obama is going to create a civilian force with this level of funding and equipment? To do what?

He won't say what his agenda is, and what the purpose of his $500 billion Obama Youth program will be. They will be dedicated to him, and that's all that matters. They will be his personal force for carrying out something that he won't tell us about until he is elected.

This is a guy with a 'Nuremberg' complex, who seeks to imitate as much as possible the rallies for the NSDAP.

176 limitbreak22  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:29:39am

re: #170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I found the perfect uniform for the Obama Youth!

Star Wars Burka?!?! A foretelling of the future for the BHO Mulsim Peace Corp? lol

177 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:29:45am

re: #169 yesandno

Could he be ANY MORE ignorant?

We still have four months until the election. Patience.

178 zombie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:29:59am

re: #9 Sharmuta

How....progressive.

Good find! It seems to be an exact parallel.

179 Iron Fist  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:30:05am

re: #161 Occasional Reader,

I don't know. What did they call them during the Cultural Revolution? Red Guards?

Change!

180 Aylios  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:30:09am

re: #145 Sharmuta

I don't think so- I think there will be plenty of people willing to join so they can browbeat the remainder of the population into doing the will of Dear Leader.


'Dear Leader' is written wrong Sharm, it's spelt 'Der Führer'.

181 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:30:18am

re: #168 Lucius Septimius

Ok. But in that case many of the similarities brought out by the Left between Bush and Hitler were right then also.

I would instead compare Obama to Communist Dictators. (although that comparison might also not be fair as he hasn't murdered millions of dissidents)

182 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:30:32am
183 zmdavid  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:30:47am

Well someone needs to make sure no one's thermostat is set to 72 degrees, and make sure no one gets to eat whatever they want. Maybe that's what this is for.

184 Cygnus  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:30:59am

re: #1 coquimbojoe

Duetschland, deutschland......

Obama uber alles.

185 loppyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:31:18am

re: #183 zmdavid

Well someone needs to make sure no one's thermostat is set to 72 degrees, and make sure no one gets to eat whatever they want. Maybe that's what this is for.

And to confiscate light bulbs.

186 Dad O' Blondes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:31:23am

What would AmeriCorps do with a $500,000,000,000 annual budget?

How could Obama's handlers let him say something so thoroughly stupid?

Amazing.

187 loubob57  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:31:28am

Maybe he thinks we need a "well regulated militia". I have my own AR-15, can I join? :)

188 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:31:33am

re: #166 loppyd

No.

I won't be better until Barack Obama goes home to Chicago.

189 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:31:35am

re: #172 Lucius Septimius

Rich person = tax payer.

They haven't killed the goose that lays the golden egg yet, but they're definitely chasing it around the yard with an axe.

We just might find the tipping point on the Laffer chart if BHO is elected.

190 faraway  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:31:59am

I wondered what post Obama was going to give Rev Wright.

191 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:01am
192 Cygnus  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:05am

re: #6 Killgore Trout

To work in the Arugula fields.

Or at IHOP making waffles.

193 Tilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:17am

Well we can add never has he even listened in on an arm service committee meeting, I guess it happens when the only reason you ran for US Senator was to run for POTUS...

Who ever has the ability to vote this guy onto a remote island please do so now!

194 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:18am

re: #116 rlevitin

It's a volunteer force for all those who don't want to serve the country properly. It will be a wet dream for all the leftists and progressives. They probably wouldn't see it as a military force because of the cool name Nobama will give it.

195 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:20am

re: #156 Silhouette

Are you calling Elvis a tyrant?

Well, he was The King.

196 Aylios  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:35am
"Comparisons to the Nazis and Hitler Youth are a bit extreme. Obama is not a fascist."

Not a fascist yet, you mean. Sounds to me like he's just one presidential election short of becoming one.

197 PrairieWind  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:43am

Obamajungend!

The most rabid of Hitler's supporters were those forced to join
the Hitlerjungend. Youth are easier to indoctrinate and
Hitlerjungend program was particularly intense in that regard.

I don't know but I think I'm sensing some desperation from
Obama. I'd like to see some "real" polls about his standing
among those most likely to vote in November. You won't likely
find those kinds of polls in the MSM but all this talk of a coronation
is simply methane exhaust.

Did anyone catch Iowahawk's take on this? He nailed this -- some
of the best satire I've ever read.

Iowahawk: A Clarification

198 loppyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:52am

re: #188 Dianna

No.

I won't be better until Barack Obama goes home to Chicago.

OK.

We will have waffles to celebrate his defeat in November.

Until then, it's balls to the wall to make it happen!

199 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:01am

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey


True, but it is comparison that concerns me. Hitler was unique in his madness, and disgusting actions. I do not want to minimize the horror that was Hitler and the Nazis by comparing them to Obama.

200 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:02am

re: #172 Lucius Septimius

Rich person = tax payer.

They haven't killed the goose that lays the golden egg yet, but they're definitely chasing it around the yard with an axe.

I thought I felt a draft!

201 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:05am

re: #187 loubob57

Maybe he thinks we need a "well regulated militia". I have my own AR-15, can I join? :)

Knock, knock!
Who's there?
ObamaCorps, public safety weapons sweep!

202 Sir Napsalot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:10am

pledge to double the size of ...

If he called out a movement and nobody comes, how is he gonna make sure ...?

203 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:29am

Late to the party here, but this sounds like a Black Muslim thing. Street thugs as the law.

204 zombie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:30am
#22 Lucius Septimius
re: #12 jcm

Like I asked last weekend on this.

What color will be the shirts?
Brown or Black.

Pink.

You asked for it.

They've already designed the uniforms.

205 Russkilitlover  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:45am

"Oh, Fatherland, Fatherland show us a sign,
Your children have waited to see,
The morning will come when the world is mine!
Tomorow belongs to me!"
--Cabaret

Scary Stuff

And the same group that supports this socialist charlatan is the same group braying about Bushitler. They don't know diddley about either Bush or Hitler!

206 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:49am

re: #170 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I found the perfect uniform for the Obama Youth!

Looks like a fucking burkha.

207 loppyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:34:01am

Time to get some work done.

Later!

208 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:34:11am

re: #178 zombie

Thanks zombie!

More on the American Protective League.

It's also worth mentioning that newspaper editors and journalists did go to jail during WWI for anything deemed as un-American by an Democrat President. So much for dissent being patriotic.

209 mglazer  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:34:15am

re: #159 limitbreak22

I dont think its extreme

I think he is extreme

Thats why he wont win period

He is a loser candidate

210 mfarmer1  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:34:31am

Nothing he says no matter how weird, absurd, or just silly will make any difference. His official website could glorify National Socialism (based on some of the blogs there that's not a stretch apparently) and he'll get elected. He could state tomorrow that he is going to outlaw the automobile to save Mother Gaia and he'll still get elected. His presumptive pick for Secretary of Defense could say that US foreign and military policy should be formulated by asking "What would Winnie the Pooh do?" and he'll still get elected.

Here in San Diego, a once solid conservative area, I've seen 100+ car strong impromptu and unofficial parades erupt on city streets for Obama, when he's not even here, heck, not even in the US at the time.

The fervor of his supporters is just creepy especially since it seems they can't even define anything, policy or otherwise about the guy. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Democrat nomination ceremony in that stadium turn out to be like a Sun Myung Moon mass wedding event.

We're screwed 08.

211 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:34:35am

re: #163 ErnieG

Or Liberace?

And Liberace was A Queen.

212 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:34:43am

re: #204 zombie

You asked for it.

They've already designed the uniforms.

I might be easier to take me re-education camp when I can't stop laughing.

213 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:34:48am

re: #183 zmdavid

Well someone needs to make sure no one's thermostat is set to 72 degrees, and make sure no one gets to eat whatever they want. Maybe that's what this is for.

72 degrees? Are you trying to kill the planet? Our homes will be 68 or lower & the thermostats will be monitored by the state.

214 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:35:19am

re: #165 MandyManners

Or, Gumby?

Ein Volk! Ein Barney!

215 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:35:20am

re: #168 Lucius Septimius

True on the Hitler thing, BUT -- I think it's fair to point out the connections between Obama's ideology and fascism; there is a strong kinship going back to the Progressive era.


I am convinced that the Left keeps referring to their potential national programs as "universal" to avoid the similarities.

216 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:35:27am

re: #192 Cygnus

Or at IHOP making waffles.

Like all evil corporations, IHOP has professional employment standards.

I get the feeling that the Obama Corp membership wouldn't make the IHOP cut...

217 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:35:45am
218 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:35:57am

I'm all for it IF, they'll come by and mow the lawn every other week, take out the trash...wednesdays and monday mornings...and as long as they're out there...maybe trim them hedges along the side, hose down the siding and porch when they can.....uhmmmm I can think of more if he gets enough people over...that garage could use a good sweeping.....lets see what else off the top of my head....fence could use a paint job...ummm...

219 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:11am

re: #201 jcm

Knock, knock!
Who's there?
ObamaCorps, public safety weapons sweep!

That should cut down the size of the ObamaCorps in no time. See? The program's budget automatically balances itself. Genius!

220 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:34am

re: #198 loppyd

Yep!

221 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:44am

re: #204 zombie

You asked for it.

They've already designed the uniforms.

Will WAB wear Medea's crown-thingy?

222 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:45am

re: #206 MandyManners

Looks like a fucking burkha.

A fucking burkha? I thought burkhas were designed to prevent such behavior!

223 maddogg  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:52am
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set,” he said Wednesday. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

Gonna be real interesting making this one fly, Obama. You should keep your socialist/communist mental masturbation private, you'll go blind.

224 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:52am

re: #140 Ringo the Gringo

Obama is not a fascist.

Yes, he is.

225 Kostya Lotz  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:58am

Dude!

Cake was spot on.

He says now, "Do you believe in the one big song?" He's now accepting callers who would like to sing along He says, "Do you believe in the one true edge?" By fastening your saftey belts and stepping towards the ledge He is handling the money. He is serving the food. He is now accepting callers. He is calling me "DUDE!"

We can all sing along in the tune of "Horst Wessel"?

226 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:37:19am

re: #66 Ford_Prefect

Do you think he is aware that our military is made up of civilians?


Somehow, I don't think that thought managed to cross the great, cavernous recesses of his brain.

227 faraway  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:37:21am

Obama will recruit 75000 volunteers during his nomination speech. They will all be given t-shirts with the Obama seal.

228 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:37:34am

re: #222 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A fucking burkha? I thought burkhas were designed to prevent such behavior!

They have a little zipper in the back.

229 marge45b  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:37:37am

It sounds like the SA to me. The Obama Brown Shirts to break up Neocon meetings. Use your brain and vote McCain!

230 rockman  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:37:38am

They could be the vanguard of a "Cultural Revolution" that exposes, punishes and re-educates Islamophobes, carbon scofflaws, meat eaters, non-recyclers, bloggers, critics of Obama, small business owners, LIZARDS, and the like.

231 yma o hyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:37:47am

re: #174 Shiplord Kirel

With millions of well-indoctrinated eyes and ears out there; it shouldn't take too long to identify all the homophobes, Zionists, male chauvinists, Islamophobes, hate-speakers, and (last but not least) embittered gun-owners; and get them into mandatory rehab.

Ye left out the bible-clingers ...

232 faraway  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:38:17am

The Obama Youth will be called the Lizard Eaters

233 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:38:21am

re: #214 Occasional Reader

Ein Volk! Ein Barney!

He needs to work on that fascist salute. Only one arm is needed.

234 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:38:25am

I see battalions and battalions of Suicide Obamers signing up for the cause.

Like the Iranian human mine-sweepers.

235 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:38:39am

re: #183 zmdavid

Well someone needs to make sure no one's thermostat is set to 72 degrees, and make sure no one gets to eat whatever they want. Maybe that's what this is for.

Pfftt, that's been taken care of.

236 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:11am

re: #222 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A fucking burkha? I thought burkhas were designed to prevent such behavior!

LOL!

237 Vergeltung  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:14am

re: #184 Cygnus

Obama uber alles.

Obama Jugend! Sieg!

238 Cygnus  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:25am

re: #72 Fat Jolly Penguin

My hell, she actually said that.

Arbeit Macht Frei!

239 yochanan  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:30am

re: #31 WrathofG-d

did not know hugo boss designed the ss units learn something every day in here.

240 Macker  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:41am

re: #214 Occasional Reader

Ein Volk! Ein Barney!

I Hate You!
You Hate Me!
Let's Hang Barney from a Tree!

241 yma o hyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:47am

We all know who is behind BO - and it seems that person has not forgotten the lessons of his youth.

So why should anybody be surprised about the details of Bo's newest plans to bring the USA to its knees?

242 maddogg  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:55am

I wonder if the Obamaites have put in their orders for their various "enemies of the state" clothing patches......

243 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:55am

re: #231 yma o hyd

Ye left out the bible-clingers ...

You'll be allowed to cling to your Bible. It just will be illegal to openly say that you believe anything in it.

244 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:40:11am

I hate to leave this suberb mock-fest but, gotta' go.

245 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:40:27am

re: #176 limitbreak22

Star Wars Burka?!?! A foretelling of the future for the BHO Mulsim Peace Corp? lol


Or perhaps this.....[Link: www.freewebs.com...]

246 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:40:39am

re: #233 MandyManners

He needs to work on that fascist salute. Only one arm is needed.

He really salutes fascism!

247 Zoltan  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:41:04am

That kind of money will pay for a lot of guards at the re-education camps.

248 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:41:05am

re: #241 yma o hyd

How better to proceed when you're shorting the dollar?

249 faraway  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:41:12am

All Hail Emperor Obama.

250 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:41:34am

re: #245 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Or perhaps this.....[Link: www.freewebs.com...]

Or this:


251 zombie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:41:37am

Seriously, he's just trying to send a signal to the far left that he's going to out-FDR FDR, and out-Kennedy Kennedy.

Lefties in this country worship the whole WPA thing, and also the Peace Corps. This is Obama's clumsy way of saying, "I'm gojng to make something bigger than the WPA and the Peace Corps COMBINED -- times ten!

252 yochanan  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:41:58am

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey

i don't intend to be winny BUT I LEARNED FROM THE LIBS/LEFTIST if your guy doesn't win you don't have to ACCEPT THE WINNER
OBAMA IS NOT GOING TO BE MY POTUS

253 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:42:03am

May I have your attention please...this is your pilot commander Obama speaking:

*I will be your Potus for the next four years.
*Our current altitude is...well, out of the world.
*Please keep your seat belts firmly fastened and hold onto your wallets and purses...we're in for a turbulent ride.

254 maddogg  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:42:28am

The "man" really is an idiot.

255 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:42:51am

re: #251 zombie

Seriously, he's just trying to send a signal to the far left that he's going to out-FDR FDR, and out-Kennedy Kennedy.

Lefties in this country worship the whole WPA thing, and also the Peace Corps. This is Obama's clumsy way of saying, "I'm gojng to make something bigger than the WPA and the Peace Corps COMBINED -- times ten!

Bingo. It'll be, like, a bajillion gazillion times better than the Peace Corps. I pinky swear it!

256 Kostya Lotz  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:43:26am

re: #242 maddogg

yep, in the shape of elephants.

shoes for industry

257 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:43:33am

re: #253 jorline

May I have your attention please...this is your pilot commander Obama speaking:

*I will be your Potus for the next four years.
*Our current altitude is...well, out of the world.
*Please keep your seat belts firmly fastened and hold onto your wallets and purses...we're in for a turbulent ride.

"And please don't try that trick of deploying the rear exit slide again; we're onto you, we've had that disabled.

258 Sizzlack  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:43:34am
Obama is going to create a civilian force with this level of funding and equipment? To do what?

He needs them to help make '1984' a reality of course.

259 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:43:48am

Loppy, IS THIS YOU?

260 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:44:12am

re: #252 yochanan

i don't intend to be winny BUT I LEARNED FROM THE LIBS/LEFTIST if your guy doesn't win you don't have to ACCEPT THE WINNER
OBAMA IS NOT GOING TO BE MY POTUS

POTUS or POS? You decide.

261 yochanan[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:44:13am
262 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:44:21am

re: #229 marge45b

It sounds like the SA to me. The Obama Brown Shirts to break up Neocon meetings. Use your brain and vote McCain!

The Left already routinely does this. In case you hadn't noticed.

263 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:07am

re: #262 Son of the Black Dog

The Left already routinely does this. In case you hadn't noticed.

Yes they do -- it's their standard practice.

264 Cygnus  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:17am

re: #163 ErnieG

Or Liberace?

Yoda?

265 yma o hyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:19am

re: #248 jaunte

How better to proceed when you're shorting the dollar?

He better look out that this isn't going to turn into his worst-ever investment project!

As the old proverb has it, 'The last shirt has no pockets' ..

266 Egfrow  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:27am
The current military budget is around 3.7% of the GDP, more than France's 2.6% and less than Saudi Arabia's 10%. This is historically low for the United States since it peaked in 1944 at 37.8% of GDP (it reached the lowest point of 3.0% in 1999-2001 under Clinton. Even during the peak of the Vietnam War the percentage reached a high of 9.4% in 1968. Because the U.S. GDP has risen over time, the military budget can rise in absolute terms while shrinking as a percentage of the GDP.

.

as a historical precedent, the WoT is underfunded while other entitlement programs are over funded. We have to wait for the New New Deal called uncreatively, "Change". Mandatory community service is a leftist organized "Militia" for our youth. What purposed does this serve and what is the mission and objective of this new "Youth" program where get get a budget equal to National Defense?

267 Sizzlack  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:30am

I expect this civilian force to enforce such ridiculous laws as bans on trans fats, fried food in general, smoking, spitting, public displays of affection, and anything else the fascist wing of the Democratic party can come up with.

268 Dad O' Blondes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:31am

Wonder what Obama would do about this real-world situation, instead of fantasizing about a $trillion dollar Americorps force:

Russia Warns of Military Response If U.S.-Czech Missile Defense Agreement Approved
Tuesday, July 08, 2008

MOSCOW — Russia will be forced to make a military response if the U.S.-Czech missile defense agreement is ratified, the Foreign Ministry said Tuesday.

The statement came hours after U.S. and Czech officials reached an initial agreement on deploying elements of a missile defense system in the Eastern European country.

Russia says the system would severely undermine European security balances by weakening Russia's missile capacity.

If the agreement is ratified, "we will be forced to react not with diplomatic, but with military-technical methods," the Foreign Ministry statement said. It did not give specifics of what the response would entail.

269 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:36am

re: #20 JohnnyReb

To do what? Pretty much anything they want to if it actually happens. $500 billion a year can make a pretty fancy organization with about 2 million people or so. Granted I can't see them needing aircraft carriers or submarines so maybe they could get their numbers over 3 million.

Subs are a definate need. keep them off the ca coast in case someone wants to drill for oil.

270 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:37am

re: #252 yochanan

i don't intend to be winny BUT I LEARNED FROM THE LIBS/LEFTIST if your guy doesn't win you don't have to ACCEPT THE WINNER
OBAMA IS NOT GOING TO BE MY POTUS

What will you do? Leave the country?

Yes, if he wins (and I don't think he will), he'll be POTUS. The thing to do then is neither to whine, nor to live in make-believe "Martin Sheen is my President" Land, but to organize politically, a get a real conservative in office in 2012.

271 zmdavid  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:45am

re: #213 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

72 degrees? Are you trying to kill the planet? Our homes will be 68 or lower & the thermostats will be monitored by the state.

The furnace will be set at 68 or lower, air conditioners will be 78 or higher.

272 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:46:11am

re: #259 Ben Hur

Loppy, IS THIS YOU?

RedLasso... "yuk".

273 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:46:38am

....to applause.

They said it about Bush but maybe it will be more appropriate if Obama wins.

274 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:47:11am

Peace Corps Mayhem Corps

275 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:47:15am

re: #268 Dad O' Blondes

Russia says the system would severely undermine European security balances by weakening Russia's missile capacity.

Umm ... how does defending against the resurgent red menace weaken Europe's "security balance"?

276 mfarmer1  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:47:23am

Eight years from now we'll see a frail man hunched over slowly walking past a line of Obama Youth on Pennsylvania Ave., one hand behind his back shaking uncontrollably, as Washington DC sits in ruins.

Hey, maybe that's not a bad thing!

277 AZDave  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:47:36am
Obama is going to create a civilian force with this level of funding and equipment? To do what?

The KGB lives.

278 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:47:46am

re: #268 Dad O' Blondes

They keep saying that sort of thing.

The problem is, I don't think they have the military-technical means, at least not sustainably. Russia's in a mess, and it's not getting better.

279 Aylios  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:05am

re: #160 WrathofG-d

This may, or may not be true. But it is now way too early to start the "hitler" name calling we rightly criticized the Leftists of doing.

Interestingly enough, I have been asking myself lately how the Right will respond of McCain doesn't win. I wonder if we will respond the way we suggested the Left do during Bush's terms, or if we will just become the whiny, complaining, "Obama is Hitler" types we criticized the Left of being. I expect to snidely say alot of "Respect the Office", in the upcoming 4 years.

The thing is, what if one guy says "Hey that sheep is black!", you look and you see a white sheep. Then a guy on the other side points at another sheep and says "Hey that sheep is black!", you look and see that the sheep is in fact black.

Are both guys then equally guilty of accusing sheep of being black? I guess they are, but there still remains one vital little difference and that is that the second sheep was in fact black!

Well it's kind of the same with comparing Bush and Obama respectively to Hitler. Bush has never done anything even remotely resembling Hitler's actions during the latter's reign of terror, but Obama seems determined to get off to a flying start in that direction and the guy isn't even in office yet.

280 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:10am

re: #275 Lucius Septimius

Umm ... how does defending against the resurgent red menace weaken Europe's "security balance"?

Well, from the Russian point of view it does. "Security balance" = "our ability to threaten Europe".

281 RTLM  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:16am

Here is the video. The statement is shown at +16:45.

[Link: poligazette.com...]

Notice the body language and the annunciation.

282 Cygnus  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:19am

re: #214 Occasional Reader

Ein Volk! Ein Barney!

Now, that's scary.

283 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:21am

re: #272 Occasional Reader

RedLasso... "yuk".


What is RedLasso?

Like YouTube?

284 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:30am

OY !

285 Egfrow  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:49am

I don't believe there is anything in our Constitution that allows for such an organization that can rival our national military. But with a Lefist dominated House, Senate, Executive, and Judicial branch, I don't see this a a problem for him to pull off.

286 Ringo the Gringo[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:50am
287 zombie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:54am

re: #267 Sizzlack

I expect this civilian force to enforce such ridiculous laws as bans on trans fats, fried food in general, smoking, spitting, public displays of affection, and anything else the fascist wing of the Democratic party can come up with.

True, with one correction: It will punish the absence of public displays of affection.

The "Folsom handshake" will be enforced vigorously!

(I'll spare you the link.)

288 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:56am
289 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:49:01am

Yuk.

290 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:49:54am

re: #251 zombie

Seriously, he's just trying to send a signal to the far left that he's going to out-FDR FDR, and out-Kennedy Kennedy.

Lefties in this country worship the whole WPA thing, and also the Peace Corps. This is Obama's clumsy way of saying, "I'm gojng to make something bigger than the WPA and the Peace Corps COMBINED -- times ten!

I agree, zombie.

Obama's more than an empty suit...I think this guy really believes the shit he's shoveling. He doesn't have a plan of action for any of his programs...BHO and his cult sit around and dream crap up all day that they think the hordes will buy...and apparently he has a lot of buyers!

Sound like 1970's TV commercials...remember when everything you bought was bigger and better? New and improved government!

291 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:00am

re: #289 Ojoe

Yuk.

racist!

292 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:07am

re: #238 Cygnus

Arbeit Macht Frei!


So after 8 hours (plus lunch) at my day job and 2-4 hours spent on the remodeling I am doing, I should be donating an additional 1-4 hours per day to the charity of Obama's choice?

293 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:13am

re: #279 Aylios

Yes this question of what to do when true also enters my head....but then I remember that Adolph Hitler started a world war, murdered millions of people, enslaved his own citizens, committed untold atrocities, and committed genocide. It is at this point that I very easily state that Obama is not Hitler.

294 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:38am

re: #287 zombie

Ew!

"Don't touch that - you don't know where it's been!"

295 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:39am

Big hat.

No cattle.

296 Pullus Iulius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:43am

Listen to the parade!
There are the pretty girls with their hair curled,
Back from the labor camp.
They represent the League of Strength Through Joy.
At least, I guess it’s that.
No, they don’t go to high-school any more.
They get told where they go. We all get told.
And, now and then, it happens like Jack Brown,
Nice fellow, Jack. Ran the gas-station here.
But he was married to a You-Know-Who.
Fond of her, too.
I don’t know why we never used to mind.
Why, she walked around like anybody else,
Kept her kids clean and joined the Ladies’ Social.
Just shows you, doesn’t it? But that’s all done.
And you won’t see her in the crowd today,
Her or the kids or Jack,
Unless you look six feet under the ground,
The lime-washed ground, the bitter prison ground
That hides the martyrs and the innocent,
And you won’t see Dan Shay.
-From Listen to the People: Independence Day, 1940, by Stephen Vincent Benet

297 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:54am

re: #279 Aylios

The thing is, what if one guy says "Hey that sheep is black!", you look and you see a white sheep. Then a guy on the other side points at another sheep and says "Hey that sheep is black!", you look and see that the sheep is in fact black.

As I like to put it (on this topic of the "oh, they're just making mirror-image claims" fallacy): Imagine we travel back in time to 1937. We first interview a German Nazi, who says "the Jews have a secret plan to kill us all." We then interview a German Jew who says, "the Nazis have a secret plan to kill us all." It's true that they're making "mirror-image claims"; but only one of them is right.

298 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:51:00am

lgf: Yuk.

(rotating title)

299 Sizzlack  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:51:08am

re: #287 zombie


The "Folsom handshake" will be enforced vigorously!
(I'll spare you the link.)

Oh man that gave me a good laugh

300 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:51:33am

re: #293 WrathofG-d

Yes this question of what to do when true also enters my head....but then I remember that Adolph Hitler started a world war, murdered millions of people, enslaved his own citizens, committed untold atrocities, and committed genocide. It is at this point that I very easily state that Obama is not Hitler.


Don;t you mean Britian started a world war?

/Pat

301 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:51:43am
302 Cygnus  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:51:46am

re: #233 MandyManners

He needs to work on that fascist salute. Only one arm is needed.

He looks more like "Invisible Machine Gun" from LOLCats.

303 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:51:51am

re: #283 Ben Hur

What is RedLasso?

Like YouTube?

The video player you linked to. It tends to freeze up, crash your 'puter, etc. From what I've seen, anyway.

304 zombie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:51:58am

OK, it's blurred out, so I guess it's only mildly NSFW:

Folsom Handshake.

(Two examples.)

305 Vergeltung  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:52:03am

re: #276 mfarmer1

huh? I don't get it.

306 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:52:17am

Hmmmm... seems that Obama's youth program might be better off helping out the Saudis with their unemployment problem than here in the US, where our unemployment rate is near historic lows.

"Gas prices are low here, so what?" said Muhammad Abdullah, a 60-year-old retiree. "What can I do with gas? Drink it? Take it with me to the supermarket?"

Al-Mazeen says his monthly grocery bill has doubled — to $215 — compared to last year, when oil was at around $70 a barrel. During that time period, the price of rice has doubled to about 72 cents a pound, and a pound of beef has gone up more than a third to about $4.

Moreover, Saudis are grappling with unemployment — estimated at 30 percent among young people aged 16 to 26 — and a stock market that is down 10 percent since the beginning of the year.

Many Saudis are realizing that this oil boom will not have the same impact as the one in the 1970s, which raised Saudis from rags to riches. This time, the wealth isn't trickling down as fast or in the same quantities.

While the instinct to call for the waaahambulance is there, it's that 16-26 demographic that should be troubling since that's the group that al Qaeda mined for their terror minions. They're the ones that the Islamists seek to indoctrinate and send out into the world to cause mayhem.

307 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:52:32am

re: #281 RTLM

Moonbat comment on that page:

Kevin H
July 3, 2008 @ 1:27 am CEST

I would actually favor a draft if you got to pick between Military/Peacecorp/Americorp, so I’m quite happy that Obama shares some of my views here.

Although for me I think the most powerful thing is to make you work with and for people that you might never otherwise contact. If everyone suddenly had a co-worker or friend who was black, gay, muslim, etc I think people across the land would be a lot more reasonable.

Right.

308 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:52:35am

re: #295 Ben Hur

Big hat.

No cattle.

Or, as I've heard black friends of mine say, "All pick, no 'fro"

309 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:52:57am

re: #288 buzzsawmonkey

The blizzard of truly ugly art will be overwhelming. At least the WPA produced a few beautiful things. The standard of aesthetics has tumbled in the intervening 70 years.

Surely you won't be opposed to President Obama's $200 million graffiti art initiative?

310 Iron Fist  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:53:03am

re: #292 Eowyn2,

Now you are getting something of an Idea about what life under the Obama Regiem will be like. You forgot the Carbon Taxes on your car, house, boat, breathing, etc., though. 100% of your after tax dollars should cover it.

311 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:53:08am

re: #303 Occasional Reader

The video player you linked to. It tends to freeze up, crash your 'puter, etc. From what I've seen, anyway.

OK.

Won't be used again.

Who.

312 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:53:12am

Flag of the Obama Corps: Link

313 neoconkat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:53:21am

re: #292 Eowyn2

Hey, you're just being silly. Of course Obama won't want you to waste those 2-4 hours remolding when its better spent working at Obama's charity camps.

314 Canadastani  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:53:34am

Well, how is the government going to stay on top of carbon crimes or ingrates exhibiting non-hopeful, non-change-oriented thinking? A civilian national defense corps seems just the ticket. Hugo Chavez is doing something similar with his "Popular Defense Units" right now

315 CIA Reject  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:54:02am

re: #308 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Or, as I've heard black friends of mine say, "All pick, no 'fro"

All foam, no beer...

316 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:54:05am

OT

TACOMA, Wash. -- A boy who finagled his way onto flights to Texas last year and tried a similar stunt earlier this year was ordered by a judge to remain in secure detention after being arrested Saturday, reported KIRO 7 Eyewitness News.

Semaj Booker, 11, is accused of burglarizing a home, destroying property and making false statements to police.

Me thinks the wrong person is in the hoosegow, or at least mom needs a little wake call, car theft preceding his flight to TX, another flight attempt, now burglary. Mom's definitely not paying attention.

317 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:54:10am

sort of OT..

not sure if this has made any of the threads, if so sorry for a repeat. I heard about it a couple of weeks ago but had forgot about it..."Uncle Barack's cabin"...
[Link: www.spiegel.de...]

318 Abe Hirschkovitz  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:54:13am

The saddest part of this is that to the extent that the left has been conditioned to think that Pres. Bush is Hitler, they have lost all sensitivity to the tactics of a truly power hungry dictator candidate.

319 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:54:26am
320 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:54:32am

re: #267 Sizzlack

I expect this civilian force to enforce such ridiculous laws as bans on trans fats, fried food in general, smoking, spitting, public displays of affection, and anything else the fascist wing of the Democratic party can come up with.

Have you had your tofu today?
PDAs are just fine between members of the same sex.

321 Racer X  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:54:33am

re: #47 Fast Eddie

These stupid statements fly out of Obama's ass on a daily basis. But unless the McCain campaign starts jumping on them - very quickly - and deriding them for the inanities they are, he will get away with it.


Fixed.

Take note John McCain.

And take action!

322 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:55:08am

re: #307 Kenneth


I would actually favor a draft if you got to pick between Military/Peacecorp/Americorp, so I’m quite happy that Obama shares some of my views here.

Oh G-d.

I agree.

323 AZDave  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:55:18am

re: #12 jcm

Like I asked last weekend on this.

What color will be the shirts?
Brown or Black.

Neither. That would be racist. The shirts will be white with the words "Barry's Goon Squad" emblazoned on the back.

324 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:55:24am

re: #322 Ben Hur

Oh G-d.

I agree.

With a moonbat.

325 Macker  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:55:31am

re: #270 Occasional Reader

And pray to God we don't lose any cities....

326 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:55:45am
327 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:56:02am

re: #304 zombie

OK, it's blurred out, so I guess it's only mildly NSFW:

Folsom Handshake.

(Two examples.)

I *so* did not need to click on that.

Time for a thorough monitor-washing.

328 maddogg  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:56:14am

Obama is a veritable encyclopedia of already tried failed ideas. He is a match for Jimmah Carter on every point. God help the USA if stupidity has become enough of an American lifestyle to elect this turkey.

329 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:56:28am

re: #309 Occasional Reader

Surely you won't be opposed to President Obama's $200 million graffiti art initiative?

Sigh. You'd be amazed at how many people on my train comment on how interesting & creative the graffiti painted all along the ride is.

330 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:56:43am
331 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:58:09am

re: #322 Ben Hur

Oh G-d.

I agree.

Explain.

332 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:58:26am

re: #330 buzzsawmonkey

Has the ADL addressed the Obama blog at all?

Not that I know of (and I doubt they would) but they do ask for "names of extremist websites"...so maybe someone (or 50 or so) should inform them. I imagine that their Kould be Other Sites that promote extremism that they should know about too.

333 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:58:38am

re: #290 jorline

I agree, zombie.

Obama's more than an empty suit...I think this guy really believes the shit he's shoveling. He doesn't have a plan of action for any of his programs...BHO and his cult sit around and dream crap up all day that they think the hordes will buy...and apparently he has a lot of buyers!

Sound like 1970's TV commercials...remember when everything you bought was bigger and better? New and improved government!

Bigger, stronger, new government, with improved demigogery capabilities.


Sounds like a paper towel.

334 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:59:14am

re: #330 buzzsawmonkey

Has the ADL addressed the Obama blog at all?

DU has to be on their list.

335 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:59:31am

re: #329 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Sigh. You'd be amazed at how many people on my train comment on how interesting & creative the graffiti painted all along the ride is.

I don't know how old you are, BDVM, but if you don't remember the 70s/early 80s, you ain't seen nothin' in terms of graffiti "art" degrading urban spaces. On second thought, you can do That 70s Show by visiting a lot of cities in Europe. Rome comes to mind.

336 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:59:37am

re: #251 zombie

Seriously, he's just trying to send a signal to the far left that he's going to out-FDR FDR, and out-Kennedy Kennedy.

Lefties in this country worship the whole WPA thing, and also the Peace Corps. This is Obama's clumsy way of saying, "I'm gojng to make something bigger than the WPA and the Peace Corps COMBINED -- times ten!


I’ve gotten the impression of a pattern of a sort of juvenile one-upmanship in a number of his pronouncements. He isn’t just a friend of Israel, he’s the best friend Israel has ever had. When he is claiming support for something (even if it was something he opposed earlier), it is something he is supporting *passionately* and he was always for it more strongly than anyone else.

337 WrathofG-d  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:59:42am

re: #334 sngnsgt

If it isn't yet....let them know. Click the link, let them know.

338 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:59:44am

re: #334 sngnsgt

DU has to be on their list.

Far too many over there still believe that the only anti-semites are on teh Right.

339 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:00:07pm

re: #333 Eowyn2

Bigger, stronger, new government, with improved demigogery capabilities.


Sounds like a paper towel.

Is that half of Gog?

340 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:00:14pm

re: #324 Ben Hur

With a moonbat.


or he can just get the NoI to recruit

341 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:00:30pm

re: #3 rawmuse

Will they wear brown shirts?

I'm in late, and haven't skimmed the thread to see if this has already been suggested.

There's a historical parallel (using the concept loosely, but why th' hell not) which says, "nope!"

Obama considers the regular military to be somewhat fascist -- analogous to the brown shirts of the SA. In advocating the formation of a counterbalance, he would therefore be wanting black shirts, like the SS.

/sarc? ... th' hell you say!

342 Cygnus  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:00:56pm

re: #304 zombie

OK, it's blurred out, so I guess it's only mildly NSFW:

Folsom Handshake.

(Two examples.)

Not blurred enough. Yecch!

343 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:01:40pm

If Obama doesn't get control of his programs and spending we all may all be living in the little cardboard boxes that Ross Perot talked about.

Home Sweet Home

344 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:01:49pm

re: #335 Occasional Reader

I don't know how old you are, BDVM, but if you don't remember the 70s/early 80s, you ain't seen nothin' in terms of graffiti "art" degrading urban spaces. On second thought, you can do That 70s Show by visiting a lot of cities in Europe. Rome comes to mind.

Say what you will about Fast Eddie Rendell, but when he was mayor of Philadelphia, he had a zero-tolerance policy on graffiti. Since he's been gone, the city looks like a pre-Guiliani subway car.

345 Pyrocles  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:02:14pm

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set"

Isn't that what the military with its various branches is FOR? Along with the FBI, CIA, NSA, and other agencies? What need is there for a civilian national security organization? Is this supposed to be like a great big neighborhood watch program, in which we all chip in to be on the lookout for suspicious and potential "terrorist" behavior?

This idea sounds almost sinister.

346 loveguru  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:02:24pm
a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”

do i have to sense some danger coming from America in near future ?... last time a private force was build, which was as much powerful as the countries military... and that too from "dissatisfied" brand of politicians .... we still know those old security forces, in historical context we call them Waffen SS

347 rcris5  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:02:55pm

Zig baby, Zig und Heil. Feel that goose tingling in my step already.

348 Aylios  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:02:59pm

re: #301 buzzsawmonkey

If Obama wins, will the melting pot kettle be calling the POTUS black?


lmao buzzsaw, thats NOT BAD!

349 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:03:35pm

re: #341 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hey! Case we don't cross paths again today, going camping and I'll be offline tomorrow till Monday.

350 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:04:31pm

re: #346 loveguru

in historical context we call them Waffen SS

The Waffle SS (as noted above, BDVM #63).

351 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:04:59pm

re: #331 Occasional Reader

Explain.

DRAFT

CONSCRIPTION

352 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:05:28pm

re: #344 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Say what you will about Fast Eddie Rendell, but when he was mayor of Philadelphia, he had a zero-tolerance policy on graffiti. Since he's been gone, the city looks like a pre-Guiliani subway car.

I didn't know that. Last time I was in Philly was October '06, I don't recall seeing too much graffiti.

353 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:05:41pm

re: #351 Ben Hur

DRAFT

CONSCRIPTION

Yes, I know. Why are you in favor of it?

354 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:05:46pm

Children, moonbats, and any others reading this thread who think mandatory volunteering is a good thing, please listen.

The government is going to force you to (blank).

It doesn't matter what goes in the blank, force is bad. To function, the government has to do some things by force, like take your money. This should be recognized as an evil, albeit a necessary evil, and kept to a minimum.

355 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:06:31pm
356 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:06:31pm

Barack Obama is nothing more than a 30 minute infomercial.

357 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:06:48pm

re: #337 WrathofG-d

Done.

358 Pyrocles  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:06:57pm

Pfft. NPR said yesterday morning that the Supreme Court has been drifting swifly to the right over the past 30 years. And Ruth Bader Ginsburg is conservative...

re: #285 Egfrow

I don't believe there is anything in our Constitution that allows for such an organization that can rival our national military. But with a Lefist dominated House, Senate, Executive, and Judicial branch, I don't see this a a problem for him to pull off.

359 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:07:09pm

re: #339 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


just a small gog.

360 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:07:18pm

re: #353 Occasional Reader

Yes, I know. Why are you in favor of it?

Many reasons.

Builds character.
Patriotism.
Cohesion.
Many more reasons but I'm working.
You know, sign 10 invoices, click "new comments."

361 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:07:52pm

The Left loves to use kids as political props...

Here is the Kids for Obama page at the Obama website:


10 Ways Kids for Obama can get involved:

1-Create a Kids for Obama Group on My.Barackobama.com. For example, Chicago Kids for Obama or DC Kids for Obama and throw a party!
2- Write a letter or editorial to your local news paper, expressing "Why Barack Obama should become the next US President".
3- Find a Pen Pal - it could be in your school, city, state, or another state. Write and discuss different ways you can get involved.
4- Draw a picture of Senator Barack Obama or "an expression of Democracy". For example, the Senator sitting in the White House or working on Capitol. Hill. You can send your drawing to the Obama for America Campaign Headquarters in Chicago and it will be posted for the Senator to see.
5- Implement T-Shirt Thursday. Get friends to wear an official Obama for America T-Shirt to school.
6- Take an adult (voting age) to the polls on Election Day and encourage them to vote for you, by voting for Senator Obama.
7- Post an official Obama for America Campaign sticker/logo on your school bag.
8- Wear an Obama for America Campaign button and/or clothing.
9- Host a Senator Barack Obama House Party or sleep-over.
10- Contribute to the Kids for Obama Blog

I know, some conservatives will use their kids also, but it is much more common and accepted on the Left.

362 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:07:53pm

re: #354 Silhouette

Children, moonbats, and any others reading this thread who think mandatory volunteering is a good thing, please listen.

The government is going to force you to (blank).

Exactly. In a free society, whenever the question is asked, "should the government force everyone to _______?", the default answer should be "no", unless there's a damn good reason for a different answer.

363 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:08:20pm

So what we basically have here is National Socialism without the Aryan frills. (IIRC, Some asshole in the NSDAP supposedly said that Nazism was Marxism without the Talmudic frills.)

364 ErnieG  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:08:24pm

re: #345 Pyrocles

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set"

Isn't that what the military with its various branches is FOR? Along with the FBI, CIA, NSA, and other agencies? What need is there for a civilian national security organization? Is this supposed to be like a great big neighborhood watch program, in which we all chip in to be on the lookout for suspicious and potential "terrorist" behavior?

This idea sounds almost sinister.

More than sinister. Look no farther than Cuba, with its neighborhood "committee members." In the Soviet Union, the neighborhood watchers were called agitprops; sort of like Community Organizers.

Oops, did I just say "Community Organizers?" Who has that kind of experience?

365 loveguru  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:08:28pm

re: #350 Occasional Reader

OOPs, sorry.. haven't realize that outside Deutschland people call it Waffle SS

anyways, Obama's association with Nation on Islam make him a far better candidate, then he will not found anything like Waffle SS... rather he will call it the hanjar .......

Greetings...
Hope will not hear back "Seig Obama" in near future !

366 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:08:50pm
367 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:08:51pm

re: #345 Pyrocles

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set"

Isn't that what the military with its various branches is FOR? Along with the FBI, CIA, NSA, and other agencies? What need is there for a civilian national security organization? Is this supposed to be like a great big neighborhood watch program, in which we all chip in to be on the lookout for suspicious and potential "terrorist" behavior?

This idea sounds almost sinister.

The Iranian Islamic Republic formed what they call the baseej -- civilian irregulars, religious police -- to protect the theocratic revolution. However, the baseej were also used on the battlefield, in human-wave attacks during the Iran-Iraq war.

Now Obama wants a civilian national security force. Hmmmm. Just what kind of Change is he planning?

368 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:08:51pm
4- Draw a picture of Senator Barack Obama or "an expression of Democracy". For example, the Senator sitting in the White House or working on Capitol. Hill. You can send your drawing to the Obama for America Campaign Headquarters in Chicago and it will be posted for the Senator to see.

Uh-oh.

369 maddogg  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:09:07pm

re: #356 jorline

Barack Obama is nothing more than a 30 minute infomercial.

Whats missing is Billy Mays running his campaign.

370 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:09:15pm

re: #352 Occasional Reader

I didn't know that. Last time I was in Philly was October '06, I don't recall seeing too much graffiti.

The Center City area is fine - mostly - but taking the train through North Philly is like being in a demilitiarized zone. I've even seen the old sofas in junk trucks being tagged!

371 morning star  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:09:31pm

It already has a name. It's called the Obama Grassroots Movement. Obama also has said that he will do something with his gigantic volunteers' organization after the election. We might have found out what.

372 yochanan  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:09:38pm

i don't see obama as a fascist and snickelgruber associations are wrong but I do see him as a euro type socialist and that is bad enough. Esp. with the p.c. opposition to personal freedom and leftist anti semitism.

373 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:10:00pm

re: #361 Ringo the Gringo

The Left loves to use kids as political props...

Here is the Kids for Obama page at the Obama website:

I know, some conservatives will use their kids also, but it is much more common and accepted on the Left.

11. crap your pants and tell everyone its really yummy chocolate pudding, just like obama does!

374 yochanan  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:10:25pm

re: #312 sngnsgt

were is the yellow stripe?

375 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:10:26pm

re: #358 Pyrocles

Pfft. NPR said yesterday morning that the Supreme Court has been drifting swifly to the right over the past 30 years. And Ruth Bader Ginsburg is conservative...

Your tax dollars hard at work!

376 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:10:29pm

re: #365 loveguru

OOPs, sorry.. haven't realize that outside Deutschland people call it Waffle SS

It's a joke, relating to an incident a few months ago in which Obama angrily demanded that reporters let him finish his waffle breakfast and not ask him difficult questions.

377 _REMEMBERTONYC  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:10:30pm

I'm guessing this group will bear a strong resemblance to the "fruit of islam" thugs that rev wright and farrakhan have spawned.

378 loveguru  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:10:35pm

re: #355 buzzsawmonkey

I m not white, and i m targeting him for his wrong policies....

thousand "Yuk" to all those dhimi propaganda... and i m not in UK

379 Iron Fist  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:10:37pm

re: #342 Cygnus,

I knew better than to click it. Some things are better left unseen.

380 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:10:50pm

It won't take long for all the litter to be picked up and all the soup ladeled out.

Then you have a force of millions looking for a task. And those that wish to see the overthrow of western ideas have a task.

381 lostlakehiker  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:11:20pm

This civilian national security force goes by the name "workforce" among Republicans. It's strong, it's like a militia because it pays its own way except when called to the colors [that is, except when the military wants to buy something in the civilian market], and in its own way, it's much more powerful than the military.

The habit of using superlatives is so entrenched in politics that ya hafta think Obama didn't mean any of it. Not literally. So, what did he mean?

A civilian national security force that would work towards the goals we've been setting our military? Blackwater Security, on a larger scale?

Perhaps health care volunteers and so on, civilizing the natives but not with a Krag? What sort of reception would that get, these days?

Does he mean some sort of home guard, watching the neighbors and reporting them if they tune in to Fox News? Curious minds want to know.

382 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:11:29pm

Can't wait until we're forced to memorize passages from Chairman Obama's little Brown Books.

383 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:11:36pm

re: #349 jcm

Hey! Case we don't cross paths again today, going camping and I'll be offline tomorrow till Monday.

Have great time!
Beware of the crocs in the stream.
Wear tinkling bells and carry pepper spray to ward off the bears.

/black bear droppings contain berries -- grizzly droppings contain bells and cans of pepper spray

384 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:11:52pm

re: #369 maddogg

Whats missing is Billy Mays running his campaign.

LOL...or that cross-eyed guy with the spiked hair that does the ShamWow commercials.

385 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:11:57pm

re: #366 buzzsawmonkey

He's a pocket fisherman. Watch your change.

The Obamaciser! Why pay more for expensive gyms or exercise equipment?

386 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:12:11pm

Find a copy of THE WAVE and start showing it everyone.

387 morning star  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:12:14pm

Or what about "Obama Volunteer Corps"?

388 Vergeltung  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:12:14pm

re: #346 loveguru

do i have to sense some danger coming from America in near future ?... last time a private force was build, which was as much powerful as the countries military... and that too from "dissatisfied" brand of politicians .... we still know those old security forces, in historical context we call them Waffen SS

Waffen = combat troops. I believe you are thinking of the Algemeine SS. The Waffen divisions were the combat units and fought alongside ther regular army forces.

389 ErnieG  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:12:47pm

re: #385 Occasional Reader

The Obamaciser! Why pay more for expensive gyms or exercise equipment?

But Wait! There's more!

390 fluffyabsolutist  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:12:56pm

A civilian force this well-funded could have responded to the Kansas tornado disaster that killed 10,000 people. In fact, I would imagine such a force would be well placed to respond quickly and effectively to such a natural disaster in any of the 57 states.

People shouldnt be so quick to criticise.

391 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:12:56pm

re: #379 Iron Fist

,

I knew better than to click it. Some things are better left unseen.

"There are things man was not meant to know."
H.P. Lovecraft

392 kansas  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:13:07pm

Obama is going to create a civilian force with this level of funding and equipment? To do what?

Oh gee, I don't know, to get elected maybe?

393 alegrias  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:13:24pm

re: #92 ErnieG

Yes, but Leni Riefenstahl isn't available.

* * *
The whole MSM is Leni Riefenstahling for Obama's Youth and Nat.Se's (National Security people) movement.

394 AZDave  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:13:30pm

re: #87 mglazer

Do you have to be muslim to join?

You have to be Muslim NOT to be rounded up and placed in "camps."

395 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:13:34pm

He slices, he dices, he juliennes!

396 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:13:39pm

Suicide Obamers.

397 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:13:54pm

re: #384 jorline

LOL...or that cross-eyed guy with the spiked hair that does the ShamWow commercials.

He freaks me the damn out!

398 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:14:02pm

re: #361 Ringo the Gringo

The Left loves to use kids as political props...

Here is the Kids for Obama page at the Obama website:


I know, some conservatives will use their kids also, but it is much more common and accepted on the Left.

Obama Bio aimed at 3rd and 4th grade.

399 loveguru  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:14:05pm

re: #376 Occasional Reader

**G** ... did he ? A person running for supreme place to lead world's most leading democracy, and he is afraid of what ? answering Media the questions.... !

400 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:14:08pm

re: #374 yochanan

Yellow Stripe

401 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:14:15pm

re: #370 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Center City area is fine - mostly - but taking the train through North Philly is like being in a demilitiarized zone. I've even seen the old sofas in junk trucks being tagged!

I didn't notice any graffiti at the Four Seasons, so I didn't realize it was a problem.

/Awaiting my East Coast Elite Liberal membership card

402 zombie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:14:50pm

re: #366 buzzsawmonkey

How about this slogan for a new bumpersticker for our stalled Obama store:

"I cling...
and I vote."

Taking opinions on it now.

Too obtuse? Too out-of-date? Not thrilling enough?

403 fluffyabsolutist  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:14:54pm

Indeed, following on from my previous comment, I would see this as a rapid reaction force for the entire world.

I suggest Obama calls it the Global Assistance Force For Everyone.

404 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:15:08pm

re: #383 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Have great time!
Beware of the crocs in the stream.
Wear tinkling bells and carry pepper spray to ward off the bears.

/black bear droppings contain berries -- grizzly droppings contain bells and cans of pepper spray

No worries, meeting my sister and her family. I can run faster than her.

405 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:15:09pm

re: #373 Spider Mensch

11. crap your pants and tell everyone its really yummy chocolate pudding, just like obama does!

But if you say yuk, you're a racist.

406 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:15:28pm

re: #401 Occasional Reader

I didn't notice any graffiti at the Four Seasons, so I didn't realize it was a problem.

/Awaiting my East Coast Elite Liberal membership card

It'll be mailed along with your arugula.

407 alegrias  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:15:42pm

re: #96 MandyManners

Notice that this was re-published on AARP's site.

* * *
AARP are leftists looking for lucrative insurance/advertising deals from wealthy old hippies; FYI, the acronym no longer stands for American Association of Retired Persons.

THey're a lobbying group, but not for your good.

408 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:15:56pm

re: #361 Ringo the Gringo

6- Take an adult (voting age) to the polls on Election Day and encourage them to vote for you, by voting for Senator Obama.

"... and if the adult DOESN'T vote for Obama, report his/her full name and contact information back to us. We'll help Mommy or Daddy to become a better person. "

409 Rednek  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:16:07pm
"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," he said Wednesday. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded."

You know, if he intended to create such a force to be a tool of national policy to supplement the military, this wouldn't be such a bad thing.

A force trained in important tasks such a building infrastructure, civil securtity, diplomatic missions, sanitation, health care, etc. to complement military missions would be a great idea.

But that isn't what he has in mind.

410 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:16:47pm

re: #404 jcm

No worries, meeting my sister and her family. I can run faster than her.

LOL!

411 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:16:53pm

re: #402 zombie

Nice, but a little too inside-baseball. The people who "get" it won't be voting for Obama anyway, I think.

412 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:16:59pm
413 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:17:04pm

re: #387 morning star

Sign the Injury Disclaimer first.

414 Seaberry  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:17:15pm
To do what?

To help in churning out more ‘Little Commies’, to increase his and the Dems voting base, to help enforce his and the Dems agenda, etc. Think - "Hitler Youth" in the modern era.

415 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:17:18pm

re: #397 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He freaks me the damn out!

And what's with that head microphone? He reminds of that actor that was in Fargo...lol

416 Egfrow  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:17:51pm

re: #358 Pyrocles

Pfft. NPR said yesterday morning that the Supreme Court has been drifting swifly to the right over the past 30 years. And Ruth Bader Ginsburg is conservative...

A 5-4 vote for right to bare arms from SCOTUS. Forgive me if I don't see the trend you just highlighted. The vote should not have even been close. I would have tolerated a 7-2 vote. Not a single vote split! That is scary. This is a constitutional precedent and backed by the Federalist papers. Even a revolutionary Thomas Jefferson would be classified as a "War Monger" by today's leftist standards. He was for war against the Barbary very early on while Washington was against it. Jefferson was unapologetically also a campaigner and supporter of war with the British in 1812. Many of our founding fathers would be considered right wing nut jobs by the current inbred pedigree of the Democratic party.

417 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:18:15pm

re: #400 sngnsgt

Yellow Stripe

Oh, I thought that was Red Stripe's low-cal beer.

That is a tiny frog! And I thought my Dwarf African Frog was small!

418 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:18:51pm

re: #82 rabidsquirrel

Pax Obama. The Peace Corps will maintain peace, no matter what the cost, or how many they have to kill.

As effective as the UN!

419 alegrias  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:18:53pm

re: #108 limitbreak22

And that's the truely scary part. America is so obessed with celeb worship and his rockstar "change" movement he could do it and they wouldn't even know, or would be willing accomplises.

* * *
Only this time, the fist-bump is the salute~

420 Paul  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:18:57pm

The Obama Youth, "tough as leather, swift as greyhounds, harder than Krupp steel".

421 Egfrow  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:19:42pm

re: #403 fluffyabsolutist

Of course, you know this force must pass the UN test.

422 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:19:48pm

re: #417 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Cool, frog ringtone...

423 zombie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:20:13pm

re: #407 alegrias

* * *
AARP are leftists looking for lucrative insurance/advertising deals from wealthy old hippies; FYI, the acronym no longer stands for American Association of Retired Persons.

THey're a lobbying group, but not for your good.

I noticed that! Recently I was in a dentist's waiting room, and they had a copy of the AARP magazine on the stand, which I picked up since the only other choice was Highlights. I flipped through the AARP magazine and was astounded! Article after article was targetted squarely at the aging hippie demographic. Headlines like: "How to stay radical after retirement!" "Stay young by joining the new generation of non-profits," and so on. Interviews with former Woodstock Generation members, all now approaching 65. I was pretty blown away. The moonbats have even taken over the AARP!

424 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:21:09pm

re: #181 WrathofG-d

Ok. But in that case many of the similarities brought out by the Left between Bush and Hitler were right then also.

I would instead compare Obama to Communist Dictators. (although that comparison might also not be fair as he hasn't murdered millions of dissidents)

Wrath, Communism is simply just another flavor of fascism. They are both being peddled to the same market segment.

425 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:21:13pm

I bet Obama pinches himself every morning when he wakes up.

426 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:21:37pm

re: #87 mglazer

Do you have to be muslim to join?

Leadership roles only.

427 loveguru  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:21:40pm

re: #388 Vergeltung

Waffen --> weaponary...
Schutzstaffel (SS) --> Schutz -> Defense ; staffel -> Scale
Allgemein --> general

I don't think that we really have some equivalent measure, when dealing with German and English naming conventions. one more example is platform in train station.... English standard count's in platform, whereas German count in Gleis ( which means rails ).... though you can lay a equivalent context, but they are not the same, but technically radically different......

428 alegrias  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:22:03pm

re: #103 Lucius Septimius

Just like on the cover of Jonah Goldberg's book.

* * *
In the 1970s, Italy's communists bragged about their "new" communism with a human face.

That human faced communism bloomed in Spain after Franco, because SOME peoples' memories weren't so fond of the old Stalinist communism they remembered--from the Spanish Civil war.

429 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:22:11pm

re: #423 zombie

The moonbats have even taken over the AARP!

Moonbats have always controlled the AARP.

430 Charles  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:22:14pm

re: #423 zombie

I noticed that! Recently I was in a dentist's waiting room, and they had a copy of the AARP magazine on the stand, which I picked up since the only other choice was Highlights. I flipped through the AARP magazine and was astounded! Article after article was targetted squarely at the aging hippie demographic. Headlines like: "How to stay radical after retirement!" "Stay young by joining the new generation of non-profits," and so on. Interviews with former Woodstock Generation members, all now approaching 65. I was pretty blown away. The moonbats have even taken over the AARP!

They sure have:

AARP and Daily Kos

431 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:22:27pm

re: #406 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And will arrive just as wilted.

432 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:22:28pm

The skies just became real dark in NW PA, looks like BIG rain!

433 DoubleU  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:22:49pm

Kerry had something similar on his website in 2004, it was quickly removed.

434 AZDave  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:23:22pm

re: #116 rlevitin

Sorry if this was mentioned, but where is he planning on finding these civilian "volunteers"?

Will this be some sort of a backdoor draft?

He'll start with Al-Qaida and the Taliban volunteers.

435 panamahat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:23:23pm

re: #29 Dahveed

I live in Panama where our (US) military comes all the time to build schools, bridges, etc. They are industrious and much welcomed. The only Peace Corps guy I ever knew got disillusioned and went home. Figures.

436 maddogg  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:24:03pm

re: #416 Egfrow

A 5-4 vote for right to bare arms from SCOTUS. Forgive me if I don't see the trend you just highlighted. The vote should not have even been close. I would have tolerated a 7-2 vote. Not a single vote split! That is scary. This is a constitutional precedent and backed by the Federalist papers. Even a revolutionary Thomas Jefferson would be classified as a "War Monger" by today's leftist standards. He was for war against the Barbary very early on while Washington was against it. Jefferson was unapologetically also a campaigner and supporter of war with the British in 1812. Many of our founding fathers would be considered right wing nut jobs by the current inbred pedigree of the Democratic party.

In today's America, the Founding Fathers would find themselves in the slammer inside of a year, I am sure. When I quote them, too many people think I am quoting some far right revolutionary guy running his own militia somewhere in the South. They think rights are "granted" by the government. Sickens me to see so many nutless and gutless Euroweenie wannabes running around in this country running their mouths and running for office too.

437 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:24:23pm

re: #435 panamahat

I live in Panama where our (US) military comes all the time to build schools, bridges, etc.

Still? Even since the bases closed?

438 loveguru  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:24:47pm

re: #430 Charles

how is your teeth now ?

don't forget mummies advice to brush you teeth after every meal ... :)

439 zombie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:25:07pm

re: #429 Son of the Black Dog

Moonbats have always controlled the AARP.

re: #430 Charles

They sure have:

AARP and Daily Kos

Wow, I forgot all about that thread! I guess the AARP's downfall is old news by now.

But remember that NIXON won in '68. Not Humphrey. And not the Chicago Seven. So what senior organization do all those now-65-year-old Nixon voters join?

440 yma o hyd  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:25:08pm

re: #430 Charles

Teeheehee - 'there's no fool like an old fool ...'!

441 zombie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:25:22pm

re: #432 sngnsgt

The skies just became real dark in NW PA, looks like BIG rain!

RACIST!

442 NoSubmission  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:25:39pm

re: #58 ErnieG

Will they have torchlight parades, and rallies in huge outdoor stadiums? I'll bet it would make a great movie.


Mikey Moore can be the newer, fatter Leni Reichfenstahl.

443 Egfrow  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:25:52pm

re: #430 Charles

They sure have:

AARP and Daily Kos

Who stands to benefit when health care goes Nationalized?

AARP's about page:

AARP is a membership organization leading positive social change and delivering value to people age 50 and over through information, advocacy and service.
444 alegrias  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:26:28pm

re: #151 Lucius Septimius

"Lucius" -- I like the sound of that ...

"Lucius! Lucius! Lucius!" I can hear it now ...

* * *
Anyone else remember being somehow discombobulated when Cassius Clay changed his name to Mohammed? I was in kindergarten but it still was odd--dare I say yuk?

Luckily I didn't bring this up in school--can you imagine in a British elementary school of today, my parents would have been marched off to re-education camp.

445 Mazeman  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:26:55pm

re: #402 zombie

How about this slogan for a new bumpersticker for our stalled Obama store:

"I cling...
and I vote."

Taking opinions on it now.

Too obtuse? Too out-of-date? Not thrilling enough?

I like it!

446 maddogg  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:27:13pm

I've gotten dozens of letters from AARP. They can go to hell.

447 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:27:23pm

re: #432 sngnsgt

The skies just became real dark in NW PA, looks like BIG rain!

Yep, it's coming down hard, don't forget your rubbers!

448 Vergeltung  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:27:48pm

re: #427 loveguru

Waffen --> weaponary...
Schutzstaffel (SS) --> Schutz -> Defense ; staffel -> Scale
Allgemein --> general

I don't think that we really have some equivalent measure, when dealing with German and English naming conventions. one more example is platform in train station.... English standard count's in platform, whereas German count in Gleis ( which means rails ).... though you can lay a equivalent context, but they are not the same, but technically radically different......

well, I don't want to pick nits. :) I'll leave it at saying the Waffen SS analogy here fails, as it was a series of combat divisions, fighting along side the Heer (regular army) units.

Obama's Volk will be analogous to the Brown Shirts or the Hitler Jugend. neither of which is a nice thought.

449 yochanan  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:28:20pm

re: #430 Charles

all AARP is the alta cocker wing of the donk party they don't even make an attempt to be bipartisan.

450 winston06  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:28:25pm

His acceptance speech at Denver's huge stadium resembles Hitler's speech in Nurnberg's Stadium. Am I wrong?

451 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 12:28:26pm

re: #442 NoSubmission

Mikey Moore can be the newer, fatter Leni Reichfenstahl.

half the talent, 10 times the size.