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Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:09:09 pm PDT

For I have sworn thee fair, and thought thee bright, who art as black as hell, as dark as night.

William Shakespeare

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1 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:09:27pm

McCain 08!

2 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:09:44pm
3 yehoshua  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:10:10pm

too bad for obama he's not really black

4 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:10:27pm

Sort of.

Goodnight all,

5 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:10:45pm

re: #2 Ojoe

That's very nice! :)

6 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:10:57pm

But enough about Obama . . .

Did y'all hear? The U.S. military is a Christian organization now!

7 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:11:32pm

re: #5 gop_patriot

The dome is closing I think ...

8 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:11:32pm

For the evening shift.

I'll been offline until next Monday or Tuesday. Going camping on the WA coast.

Not sure when I'll sign off tonight.

But getting the word out.

9 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:13:05pm

re: #8 jcm

Watch out for bears!

10 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:13:22pm

re: #7 Ojoe

The dome is closing I think ...

Ooh, it did! There was light coming out a minute ago. Don't they sometimes turn it towards the city, isn't LA right below it?

11 Cognito  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:13:31pm

Shakespeare, nice.

12 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:14:15pm

Hey everybody! I'm studying Torah RIGHT NOW! My study partner is currently off checking on a crying baby. There's just enough time to say HI LIZARDS!

13 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:14:34pm

Evening lizards all. Night shift checking in. And I just love that fresh thread smell. BTW Macker if you're here just checked out your radio commercial. Well done scaley.

14 marwan's daughter  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:15:15pm
15 Last Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:15:55pm

KB951748. A pox on both your houses microsoft and zone alarm.

16 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:16:35pm

re: #12 yitzy

Good evening!

*sniff* My 'baby' just turned five... :)

17 Jay777  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:16:36pm
18 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:18:08pm

I have been out of touch today. Has Obama thrown anyone else under his bus?

19 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:18:16pm

re: #9 Wyatt Earp

Watch out for bears!

My sisters bringing her family....
I run faster.
/

20 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:18:22pm

re: #15 Last Man

Problems?

21 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:19:23pm

re: #19 jcm

Ah, using the "buddy system," I see. When a bear comes, throw him your buddy!

22 unclassifiable  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:19:35pm

re: #18 freedombilly

I think the bus finally "high centered" on all of rejects.

23 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:19:41pm

It would really benice that when everybody runs off to the open thread that somebody would say something...like hey hoopster et al. we're over here now../lol
Hey lizards!
what's up?

24 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:20:35pm

Hey Charles, how about some more Keith Jarrett?

25 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:20:41pm

re: #16 gop_patriot

Good evening!

*sniff* My 'baby' just turned five... :)

Howdy! Well, I don't know you or your situation, but are you missing new babies enough to crank out another? B-)

I myself am looking forward to the opportunity to raise a few. Gotta' get married to a nice (politically) Conservative girl.

26 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:20:47pm

Hey, Hoopster, et al . . .

Oh, never mind. You're already here. :)

27 Racer X  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:21:00pm
28 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:21:15pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

I agree with your assessment of this lawsuit. Good grief!

29 Shug  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:21:28pm

Alas poor Reverend Wright, I knew him well

30 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:21:35pm

re: #11 Cognito

It's #147:

My love is as a fever longing still
For that which longer nurseth the disease,
Feeding on that which doth preserve the ill,
Th'uncertain sickly appetite to please.
My reason, the physician to my love,
Angry that his prescriptions are not kept,
I lath left me, and I desperate now approve
Desire is death, which physic did except.
Past cure I am, now reason is past care,
And frantic mad with evermore unrest;
My thoughts and my discourse as madmen's are,
At random from the truth vainly expressed:
For I have sworn thee fair, and thought thee bright,
Who art as black as hell, as dark as night.

Not to everyone's taste, the sonnet cycle. But very much to mine.

31 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:22:18pm

re: #28 gop_patriot

Guy is completely out of his mind, IMO.

32 unclassifiable  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:22:44pm

re: #15 Last Man

I dumped Zone Alarm and Norton AV and switched to NOD32.

33 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:22:53pm

re: #11 Cognito

Shakespeare, nice.

I am also a fan of Silverstein:

You can pick your nose.
You can pick your friends.
But you can't pick your friend's nose.

34 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:22:58pm
35 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:23:07pm

re: #24 freedombilly

I wish he could play some of the Stephen Foster pieces, as he used to. Ah, May the Red Rose Bloom Always is particularly fine.

36 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:23:47pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

But enough about Obama . . .

Did y'all hear? The U.S. military is a Christian organization now!

Cool website! I loved the movies.
Support Your Local Sheriff
Support Your Local Gunfighter

37 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:24:11pm

re: #30 Dianna

It's #147:


Not to everyone's taste, the sonnet cycle. But very much to mine.

that is so fleetwood mac...really
/ i'd better put the / there or else

38 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:24:20pm

Good Evening Lizards! It was sultry in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Did you hear about this?

How are you-all this evening?

39 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:24:43pm

re: #32 unclassifiable

I dumped Zone Alarm and Norton AV and switched to NOD32.

I use AVG Free, windows defender, and Spybot Search and destroy. Catch most stuff. Then again I usually practice safe surfing.

40 Lynn B.  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:24:43pm

Hincapie!

41 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:25:11pm

re: #35 Dianna

I prefer Fredric F***ing Chopin.

Sorry. Just a little Doc Holliday humor from Tombstone.

42 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:25:13pm

re: #37 HoosierHoops

You're just not paying attention!

43 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:25:42pm

re: #40 Lynn B.

Hincapie!

Top ten finish today for the "old man". Love me some George.

44 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:26:11pm

re: #25 yitzy

Howdy! Well, I don't know you or your situation, but are you missing new babies enough to crank out another? B-)

I myself am looking forward to the opportunity to raise a few. Gotta' get married to a nice (politically) Conservative girl.

LOL! Married with three, 18, 11, and 5. :) If it was easier for me, I'd have had many more. Three Cesareans is enough, ack! :X

You'll find the right one. Who knows, maybe even a lizard! :D

45 Last Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:26:15pm

Microsoft update KB951748 screws with Zone Alarm and stops internet access. Temp fix is uninstall update or run Zone Alarm on medium. Don't update till latest cluster fuck is fixed.

46 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:27:20pm

Ay, by my faith, the field is honourable; and there was he born, under a hedge, for his father had never a house but the cage.

The scond part of king henry VI
act IV Sc 11
lines 50 -52

47 angst  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:29:26pm

re: #38 ggt

Good Evening Lizards! It was sultry in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Did you hear about this?

How are you-all this evening?

I saw that some of the little towns are dumping their anti-gun laws, but what's up with Chicago?

48 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:29:55pm
When my love swears that she is made of truth,
I do believe her though I know she lies,
That she might think me some untutored youth,
Unlearned in the world's false subtleties.
Thus vainly thinking that she thinks me young,
Although she knows my days are past the best,
Simply I credit her false-speaking tongue:
On both sides thus is simple truth suppressed:
But wherefore says she not she is unjust?
And wherefore say not I that I am old?
O! love's best habit is in seeming trust,
And age in love, loves not to have years told:
Therefore I lie with her, and she with me,
And in our faults by lies we flattered be.

And if that's not the truth, no one ever told it.

49 Last Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:30:11pm

spybot had sucked the big one for some time.

50 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:30:13pm

re: #47 angst

Difficult to have a socialist empire if the population can fight back.

51 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:30:23pm

re: #45 Last Man

Microsoft update KB951748 screws with Zone Alarm and stops internet access. Temp fix is uninstall update or run Zone Alarm on medium. Don't update till latest cluster fuck is fixed.

Thanks for that update. I have been trying for the last 2 hours to figure out why I could not connect to the internet.

The beer is on me Last Man! Thanks.

52 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:30:47pm

re: #41 Wyatt Earp

I like Chopin, too, and Haydn.

53 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:31:50pm

Unofficial opinion poll for Lizards: What do y'all (you plural in Texas) think about your tax dollars being spent on religious beliefs and practices of other people, including criminals and non-citizens? If it is fine or wonderful, let me know. If is is an abomination like certain tax issues in the Colonies in the 1700's, tell me!

If his poll is against Lizard rules, ignore it and have mercy on my feeble memory!

54 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:31:55pm

re: #52 Dianna

I like Chopin, too, and Haydn.

Beethoven would be my one classical composer to take to the desert island.

55 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:32:10pm

re: #52 Dianna

I proudly own Shakespeare's Complete Works. The only book from college that I still own . . . and still read.

And if I ever had a girl, I would fight the missus to the death to name her "Regan."

56 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:32:11pm

re: #31 Wyatt Earp

He does sound like he's had a 'break' of some sort.

57 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:32:59pm

re: #53 Timbre

That's a h@ll of a question. I'm not going to tackle it tonite.

58 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:33:48pm

re: #44 gop_patriot

LOL! Married with three, 18, 11, and 5. :) If it was easier for me, I'd have had many more. Three Cesareans is enough, ack! :X

You'll find the right one. Who knows, maybe even a lizard! :D

Oh PHEW! I am SO glad you LOL'd about my post! After I hit the post button, I thought "Uh-oh, what if I got WAY to personal about a touchy subject." I feel much better after your response.

59 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:33:50pm

There was a young man named Dave....

60 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:33:51pm

re: #54 freedombilly

I prefer Johan Sebastian Bach; the fugue fascinates me, and the Brandenburg Concertos are some of the best music ever composed.

61 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:34:51pm

Good evening, lizards.

62 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:02pm

re: #53 Timbre

Unofficial opinion poll for Lizards: What do y'all (you plural in Texas) think about your tax dollars being spent on religious beliefs and practices of other people, including criminals and non-citizens? If it is fine or wonderful, let me know. If is is an abomination like certain tax issues in the Colonies in the 1700's, tell me!

If his poll is against Lizard rules, ignore it and have mercy on my feeble memory!

If the government has assumed custody of someone by putting him in prison, then the government has taken on the responsibility of tending to his needs, and that includes his spiritual needs.

63 Roentgen  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:06pm

re: #52 Dianna

I like Chopin, too, and Haydn.

Oui, oui. When we go to ze store, we take our Chopin Liszt.

64 angst  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:26pm

re: #50 ggt

Difficult to have a socialist empire if the population can fight back.

Yeah, and now Obama wants a giant national paramilitary force. If that's not frightening I'm not sure what is.

65 cutestguy[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:48pm
66 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:52pm

re: #64 angst

Bingo!

67 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:54pm

re: #57 ggt

Well mark it and send me your thoughts, secure e-mail if necessary. I value your opinion, because you always use facts and logic.

68 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:36:53pm

Dianna, my friend, sharing sonnets... Here's one of my favorites:

Is it thy will, thy image should keep open
My heavy eyelids to the weary night?
Dost thou desire my slumbers should be broken,
While shadows like to thee do mock my sight?
Is it thy spirit that thou send'st from thee
So far from home into my deeds to pry,
To find out shames and idle hours in me,
The scope and tenor of thy jealousy?
O, no! thy love, though much, is not so great:
It is my love that keeps mine eye awake:
Mine own true love that doth my rest defeat,
To play the watchman ever for thy sake:
For thee watch I, whilst thou dost wake elsewhere,
From me far off, with others all too near.

69 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:37:04pm

re: #67 Timbre

Thanks for the facts and logic notation. I'd like to know more as to why you are posing the question.

70 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:37:31pm

re: #61 MarineMomSue

Good evening, lizards.

Evening, I take it from your avatar you have 2 USMC sons?
God bless you and your sons.

71 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:37:45pm

re: #36 jcm

Cool website! I loved the movies.
Support Your Local Sheriff
Support Your Local Gunfighter


--Why, if I'd pulled the trigger the danged thing would have blown up in my face. --Well, it wouldn't have done my finger a bit of good either.

72 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:38:40pm

re: #58 yitzy

Oh PHEW! I am SO glad you LOL'd about my post! After I hit the post button, I thought "Uh-oh, what if I got WAY to personal about a touchy subject." I feel much better after your response.

:D I knew what you meant, no problem!

Btw, your furniture is gorgeous. And I love the verse carving.

73 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:20pm

re: #70 jcm

Evening, I take it from your avatar you have 2 USMC sons?
God bless you and your sons.

ditto

74 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:28pm

re: #42 Dianna

You're just not paying attention!

you are so correct..this is the hoopsters family's 2nd day in our new house.. and i'm kindof trashed between the moving and the midnight swimming.. WE got a really cool place..I'm happy

75 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:32pm

re: #71 Dustyvet

And now, James Garner is doing Rascal commercials or other such nonsense. Damned shame when your film faves are getting old. I'm 39, and I cannot imagine what life will be like when Harrison Ford leaves us.

76 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:41pm

Well, Lizards, I'm not on for much longer. Time to sleep.

If realwest shows-up, give him my best.

weet dreams!

77 mikalm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:47pm

re: #59 MandyManners

Did he live in Nantucket?

78 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:50pm

re: #71 Dustyvet

--Why, if I'd pulled the trigger the danged thing would have blown up in my face. --Well, it wouldn't have done my finger a bit of good either.

LOL!

Now I'm going to have to watch them again!

79 cliffster  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:40:33pm

re: #62 MandyManners

And who defines "need"? What about a need for weed, or a need for cocaine? How about a need for a supermodel lover? Do we need to spend public funds to make sure those needs are met?

80 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:40:55pm

re: #68 Sharmuta

This is a favorite for play, if not for emotion:

Whoever hath her wish, thou hast thy will,
And 'Will' to boot, and 'Will' in over-plus,
More than enough am I that vex thee still,
To thy sweet will making addition thus.
Wilt thou whose will is large and spacious,
Not once vouchsafe to hide my will in thine?
Shall will in others seem right gracious,
And in my will no fair acceptance shine?
The sea all water, yet receives rain still,
And in abundance addeth to his store,
So thou being rich in will add to thy will
One will of mine to make thy large will more.
Let no unkind, no fair beseechers kill,
Think all but one, and me in that one 'Will.'

Truly brilliant, but not appealing.

I'm off to walk dogs and head for bed.

Take care!

81 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:41:24pm

re: #60 Dianna

I prefer Johan Sebastian Bach; the fugue fascinates me, and the Brandenburg Concertos are some of the best music ever composed.

While Beethoven would be my desert island composer, my desert island classical recording would be either the '55 or the '81 Glenn Gould recordings of the Bach Goldberg Variations. He was an absolute genius and I have never heard the piano played the same since his passing.

The difference in the two recordings is truly amazing. One is of a rambunctious young man and the other is of a very introspective older man. The '81 recording of the exact same piece is over 15 minutes longer if memory serves me correctly.

82 angst  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:41:47pm

re: #55 Wyatt Earp

I proudly own Shakespeare's Complete Works. The only book from college that I still own . . . and still read.

And if I ever had a girl, I would fight the missus to the death to name her "Regan."

If ever one needed a study in political duplicity, Marc Antony's eulogy for Caesar can't be beat. "So they are all, all honorable men." The sarcasm virtually drips from the page.

My kids never cease to be amazed by the everyday turns of phrase that originated with Shakespeare.

83 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:42:52pm

re: #62 MandyManners

Since you were the first respondent, just a few adjustments. What is spiritual: praying quietly with a holy book they can buy themselves, or shaking chicken bones out on the floor to divine the future. What about thousands of dollars of grape juice and matzah? What about Islamic books which many of use at LGF consider radicalized and hostile to non-Muslims? Why can't faith-based organizations in the private sector pay for the accouterments?

84 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:43:53pm

re: #78 jcm

A friend of mine posted a clip of one of my faves today. Now, I have to go watch this again!

85 mikalm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:43:54pm

re: #82 angst

My kids never cease to be amazed by the everyday turns of phrase that originated with Shakespeare.

At least they have a sense of origins. I know someone who once tried to read the Bible, but gave up because "it had so many cliches"!

86 unclassifiable  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:44:50pm

Night Lizards.

Say hello to the graveyard shift for me.

Take care of one and other.

87 angst  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:45:48pm

re: #85 mikalm

At least they have a sense of origins. I know someone who once tried to read the Bible, but gave up because "it had so many cliches"!

I can't decide if that is funny or sad.

88 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:45:58pm

re: #72 gop_patriot

:D I knew what you meant, no problem!

Btw, your furniture is gorgeous. And I love the verse carving.

Thank you so much for your kind words!

Did you know that you can sign up on my EMAIL list? Hint, hint, hint...

89 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:46:03pm

anyone see nightline tonight? i normally dont watch it but this is horrifying--undercover reporter travelled to haiti and BOUGHT a child slave for $150--a girl--havent finished the show--but i think i have to go puke now--

90 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:46:29pm

re: #89 mikeymom

Jesus, that is despicable.

91 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:46:40pm

re: #77 mikalm

Did he live in Nantucket?

No. He lived in a cave.

92 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:47:23pm

Gotta' go. The Kid is out of bed which is unusual for him. Later.

93 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:47:27pm

re: #75 Wyatt Earp

And now, James Garner is doing Rascal commercials or other such nonsense. Damned shame when your film faves are getting old. I'm 39, and I cannot imagine what life will be like when Harrison Ford leaves us.

Wha huh? Where's Harrison Ford going?

94 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:47:38pm

re: #90 Wyatt Earp

title is how to buy a slave in 10 hrs--the reporter has negotiated for two kids

95 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:48:49pm

re: #93 yitzy

Eventually, I imagine he's going to The Great Beyond. Hopefully, many, many years away, because he's my favorite actor. Just saw Indy 4 and thought, "God he looks old."

96 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:49:17pm

re: #94 mikeymom

What. The. Hell? Can we just nuke Haiti and be done with it?

97 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:49:19pm

re: #89 mikeymom

There's a book out on modern slavery- I read about half of the first chapter at Powerline, and it took place in Haiti. Disgusting stuff, but I have to admit, I'm a bit impressed Nightline is covering this important topic.

98 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:49:40pm

re: #85 mikalm

At least they have a sense of origins. I know someone who once tried to read the Bible, but gave up because "it had so many cliches"!

You're kidding! HAHAHA! OK, really, that's sad... :p

I found a really good book called "It's Greek to Me" that I use with my kids for homeschool. Actually, my church library has it, and we check it out often. A fun resource. :)

99 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:49:51pm

re: #55 Wyatt Earp

I proudly own Shakespeare's Complete Works. The only book from college that I still own . . . and still read.

And if I ever had a girl, I would fight the missus to the death to name her "Regan."

I picked up a complete set of Shakespeare from our local library.

No, They were on sale.
Copyright is 1911 in the books.

100 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:50:02pm

re: #78 jcm

LOL!

Now I'm going to have to watch them again!

I'm trying to find a copy on Ebay...:)

101 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:51:09pm

re: #69 ggt

I can only say I have experience at purchasing religious items for other people with your tax dollars. Lately, many Americans play up the importance of faith-based NGOs who, in my humble opinion, could pay for these items from private contributions and grants. My specialty is religious terrorism, or just criminality. I don't want my tax deductions going to radicals and America haters.

102 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:51:25pm

re: #99 steve

1911? So, John McCain was what, 25? Heh.

103 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:51:31pm

re: #97 Sharmuta

read the same book--but seeing this is horrifiying--dont know if its on abc/nightlines website--i mean it when i say im in tears and want to puke

104 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:52:04pm

re: #70 jcm

Evening, I take it from your avatar you have 2 USMC sons?
God bless you and your sons.

That I do, JCM. At the moment they are on opposite ends of the country, one at 29 Palms, CA the other at Camp LeJeune, NC. It's a blessing to know they are both in the good old USA. Needless to say, I'm incredibly proud of them.

BTW, Have a great time on your camping trip.

105 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:52:23pm

re: #100 Dustyvet

I'm trying to find a copy on Ebay...:)

36 Hours (1965)
Directed by George Seaton. With James Garner, Eva Marie Saint, Rod Taylor. Germans kidnap an American major and try to convince him that World War II is ...


Another great Garner Film...not a classic, but food film...:)

106 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:52:42pm

re: #88 yitzy

Well, I think I shall! I'm going to share the link, also. Hopefully you'll get some business out of it. :)

107 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:53:14pm

re: #104 MarineMomSue

Thank you and your sons for your service and sacrifice.

108 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:53:28pm

re: #89 mikeymom

anyone see nightline tonight? i normally dont watch it but this is horrifying--undercover reporter travelled to haiti and BOUGHT a child slave for $150--a girl--havent finished the show--but i think i have to go puke now--

That's awful. He got ripped off. You can get one for a third that price in Sudan.

109 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:01pm

re: #103 mikeymom

I believe you, and I would probably feel the same. It's truly disgusting and sadly it seems no one cares. That's why I think it's good Nightline did this. It need exposure.

110 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:12pm

re: #96 Wyatt Earp

What. The. Hell? Can we just nuke Haiti and be done with it?

Sometimes being a real imperial power and really colonizing and controlling other countries doesn't seem so bad.

111 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:13pm

re: #103 mikeymom

read the same book--but seeing this is horrifiying--dont know if its on abc/nightlines website--i mean it when i say im in tears and want to puke

Pretty sick...buying a child for $150...I'm blown away.

112 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:16pm

Gotta get ready to go to work and spend those tax dollars on something!
Have a great Wednesday, July 9, 2009!

113 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:23pm

re: #89 mikeymom

Oh, no. :(

114 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:55:00pm

re: #108 Neo Con since 9-11

i know that--and your levity about this is misplaced in my opinion--even if it was sarc

115 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:55:13pm

re: #104 MarineMomSue

That I do, JCM. At the moment they are on opposite ends of the country, one at 29 Palms, CA the other at Camp LeJeune, NC. It's a blessing to know they are both in the good old USA. Needless to say, I'm incredibly proud of them.

BTW, Have a great time on your camping trip.

Next time you talk to 'em tell me thank you.
This guy and his family appreciates what the they do for us.

116 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:55:29pm

re: #103 mikeymom

Please tell me they got that little girl out of there.

117 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:56:42pm

re: #73 jorline

Thank you both. l gladly pass on your sentiments to my sons. I am sure they will appreciate it as much as I do.

118 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:56:59pm

re: #116 gop_patriot

there are tousands of kids--some parents give them away cause they are told they will be schooled--instead these kids are slaves and are beaten on a daily basis

119 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:58:33pm

Signing off.

See you all in week.

120 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:58:41pm

re: #117 MarineMomSue

Yes, please thank them for me too. :) And, thank YOU too, you obviously did something very right!

121 Cartman  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:58:49pm

re: #110 jcm

Sometimes being a real imperial power and really colonizing and controlling other countries doesn't seem so bad.

/as thousands of leftist heads explode simultaneously

122 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:59:29pm

re: #119 jcm

have a GREAT time--we'll miss you

123 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:59:37pm

re: #118 mikeymom

Like the little girls in Asia, told they're being taken to the city for school or jobs, they end up in brothels. Just turns my stomach.

124 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:59:39pm

re: #119 jcm

Signing off.

See you all in week.

Vacation? If so, have a great trip.

125 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:59:59pm
126 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:00:12pm

re: #119 jcm

Bye, have fun and stay safe! :)

127 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:01:20pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

buzz--with all due respect--even sarc about this subject is-well-not appropriate IMHO

128 AZfederalist  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:03:56pm

re: #60 Dianna

I prefer Johan Sebastian Bach; the fugue fascinates me, and the Brandenburg Concertos are some of the best music ever composed.

Second that. The Brandenburgs are absolutely heavenly in composition, complexity, and enjoyment.

129 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:03:59pm

Hi Lizards, a drive-by post. I am watching "John Adams" on DVD. It seems really good.

130 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:04:11pm

Huh, I didn't think it possible for Shakespeare to have known both of my ex-wives! Musta been time-travel or something!

131 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:04:42pm

re: #102 Wyatt Earp

1911? So, John McCain was what, 25? Heh.

Personally I could care less what age McCain is. When I am 71 I will also have a daughter that is 23. ;P

132 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:05:13pm

re: #33 freedombilly

I am also a fan of Silverstein:

You can pick your nose.
You can pick your friends.
But you can't pick your friend's nose.

You can pick your nose.
You can pick your friends.
But you can't wipe your friends on your pants.

133 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:05:41pm

re: #129 rawmuse Hi there - a few lizards watched it live when it aired a couple of months ago, and they all gave it rave reviews!
Enjoy!

134 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:05:43pm

re: #130 realwest

heh! wonder if they would say the same 'bout you, cutie! how ya doing?

135 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:07:01pm

re: #131 steve

Was just joking. I'm absolutely voting for McCain in November. And when my youngest is 21, I'll be 60.

136 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:07:06pm

re: #104 MarineMomSue

That I do, JCM. At the moment they are on opposite ends of the country, one at 29 Palms, CA the other at Camp LeJeune, NC. It's a blessing to know they are both in the good old USA. Needless to say, I'm incredibly proud of them.

BTW, Have a great time on your camping trip.

Hey, I was stationed at both 29 Palms and Camp LeJuene.
Tell your boys Semper Fi for me.

Semper Fi to you too, Sue.

137 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:07:11pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

Makes you realize how overpriced the legitimate adoption agencies are.

/sarc with disgust all around

It's a sick world...what some people will do to make a buck from someone else's misery. I truly don't know how you could live with yourself knowing that you sold a child into slavery.

Time for bed and a good time to kiss my children good night again.

138 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:09:02pm

re: #137 jorline

give 'em an extra kiss for me--ny boys are 30 (gonna be MARRIED on aug 1) and 28-i miss the young child smells!

139 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:09:03pm

re: #135 Wyatt Earp

Was just joking. I'm absolutely voting for McCain in November. And when my youngest is 21, I'll be 60.

;P

taken only as a joke. Sorry if I misconstrued.
When I am 60 my youngest will be 13

140 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:09:54pm

re: #121 Cartman
Hmmm, y'all have mail - again! LOL!

141 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:10:33pm

re: #139 steve

13 when 60? God bless ya!

142 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:11:17pm

re: #139 steve

well, my oldest is 30--did i say about to be MARRIED!---and im only 29--oh wait-- i never was good at math!

143 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:11:29pm
144 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:12:42pm

re: #134 mikeymom
Well they'll surely would and would have a right to, I'm afraid!
Never anyone else involved, it's just that living with me is NOT a day at the beach! LOL!
I'm doing ok - just a little tense cause I gotta go back to see my Oncologist again (regularly scheduled trip, but always anxiety producing!).
How are you doing?

145 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:12:49pm

re: #138 mikeymom

give 'em an extra kiss for me--ny boys are 30 (gonna be MARRIED on aug 1) and 28-i miss the young child smells!

I'm lucky, I have a beautiful 11 yo daughter and a 14 yo son who still loves to snuggle...only not in front of his friends...lol At 54 they keep me feeling young.

nite all

146 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:13:04pm

Good night, Lizards, from a Hilton in Wichita. Play nice.

147 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:13:54pm

re: #142 mikeymom

My mom still says she's 29 and holding. :)

/is a senior citizen now and still believes that.

148 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:14:09pm

re: #141 Wyatt Earp

Thank you! But she is a handful to say the least. Loves her dad though.
I also have a 16 year old boy and a 19 year old boy.

the oldest wants to be a chef since he was 7 and the middle wants to get into construction.
The wife and I have homeschooled them all.

149 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:14:10pm

re: #130 realwest

Huh, I didn't think it possible for Shakespeare to have known both of my ex-wives! Musta been time-travel or something!

Well, I was once married to the Loch Ness Monster's sister...:)

150 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:14:37pm

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

yeah, ok--big sigh- but- im not in the mood after watching that nightline piece for facts and figures--i'v ve read the books- and looking at a page is not the same as seeing this young girls face and beaten body--didnt mean to jump on ya--friends?

151 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:15:10pm
152 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:16:31pm

re: #136 DesertSage

Hey, I was stationed at both 29 Palms and Camp LeJuene.
Tell your boys Semper Fi for me.

Semper Fi to you too, Sue.

Thanks, Sage. I'm curious, which place did you like better?

153 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:16:39pm

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

I can testify with direct experience to the truth of your points 2 and 5 with domestic adoptions.

154 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:18:30pm

re: #149 Dustyvet ROTFLMAO! I'm gonna have to remember to steal that one from you!

155 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:19:05pm

re: #144 realwest

im ok real--starting to stress a little about upcoming wedding on aug 1-i am a BIG time procrastinator and am realizing how fast time is going--lol--so i spent tonight making lists-we have a lot of out chaos-lolol!of towners coming in--bbq for 30 planned for day after wedding--you know-usual

156 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:19:49pm

re: #136 DesertSage Hey Sage! How are ya doing? We're finally on the same thread at about the same time! LOL!

157 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:20:16pm

Hey ya'll

158 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:20:52pm

re: #157 trigger girlie

Hey ya'll

Aloha Trig. :)

159 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:11pm

Question for Lizards in California

I've heard that it's illegal to drive with headphones on (Mp3 player, etc.)

Can anyone confirm whether or not this true?

I remember this emerging back in the day when everyone starting Sony Walkmans.

160 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:24pm

re: #158 pat

Hey pat!

161 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:25pm

Morning trigger, how's the front desk tonight? Usual amount of crazies?

162 Metal Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:35pm

Shakespeare on the beach.

163 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:52pm

re: #159 oh_dude

I thought it was illegal everywhere

164 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:06pm

humm- that came out weird--think i need to go to bedhave another drink

165 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:13pm

re: #155 mikeymom
Ah, {mikeymom} don't sweat it, it'll get done. The only thing that matters is that the bride and groom show up, say they're "I do"s and everyone gets some stuff to eat and lots to drink.
Oh, and music helps! You gonna go with a DJ or are you having a live band?

166 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:46pm

Trig, painting here. Kids room. Lots of patching. Frickin gun nut has more holes from knives and blow darts than a shrunken head in his walls.

167 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:54pm

re: #152 MarineMomSue

Thanks, Sage. I'm curious, which place did you like better?

This time of year, LeJuene is hot and sticky. 29 Palms is hot and dry...and hot. And did I mention hot?

Really, I loved them both. Two completely different environments. One is desert, which is absolutely beautiful. The other is very wooded, but very beautiful also. I loved the coast and the outer banks.

168 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:55pm

re: #161 BlueCanuck

Hey, BC :)

The other night a woman got stabbed to death in a parking lot of a hotel next to mine. She walked up to the front desk for help and fell down. The guy is on the run. Yay me...

169 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:06pm

I drive with head phones on all the time. Not turned on. But you can't hear the outside from my car anyway.

170 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:09pm

The LFG story of the Day, maybe of the Week, is the Obama Youth story. That is strange. This guy is supposed to be a bit of a pacifist, yet he wants a massively armed and huge civilian army on American soil. As Charles says "To do what"? I mean, only Americans live here.

I'm seriously concerned about this guy and this ratchets my level of concern to very high levels. We need to get to the bottom of this one.

171 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:33pm

re: #156 realwest

Hey Sage! How are ya doing? We're finally on the same thread at about the same time! LOL!

Hey RW, how did you get on this thread?
:')

172 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:46pm

re: #168 trigger girlie

Holy cow! Do you have a security guard near you? Who has a gun and knows how to use it?!?

173 cliffster  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:48pm

re: #168 trigger girlie

Hey, BC :)

The other night a woman got stabbed to death in a parking lot of a hotel next to mine. She walked up to the front desk for help and fell down. The guy is on the run. Yay me...


Sounds like a reason to work at a different hotel.

174 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:53pm

re: #159 oh_dude

Question for Lizards in California

I've heard that it's illegal to drive with headphones on (Mp3 player, etc.)

Can anyone confirm whether or not this true?

I remember this emerging back in the day when everyone starting Sony Walkmans.

True, yes.

175 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:25:12pm

re: #168 trigger girlie

Hey, BC :)

The other night a woman got stabbed to death in a parking lot of a hotel next to mine. She walked up to the front desk for help and fell down. The guy is on the run. Yay me...

I hope you have a Derringer strapped to you pretty leg. Or an AMC .380.

176 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:25:14pm

re: #168 trigger girlie

Wow, so how's the job search going? ;)

/yeah, I know I have a tendency towards gallows humour.

177 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:25:21pm

re: #167 DesertSage
So which did ya like the most?!
a) 29 Palms or
b) LeJuene
?!

178 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:26:15pm
179 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:26:46pm

re: #165 realwest

the kids went with a dj--i guess you missed my asking for songs for our mother/son dance--i dont want sloppy sentimental cause ill be a crying fool anyway-asked for suggestions from lizards the other night--got somelolol good ones and then soem heavy metal goof ball ones--i may go with stevie wonders --you are the sunshine of mty life--son was not sure--may also go w/ time warp-rhps--still searching!

180 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:27:35pm

Sorry about that.

181 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:27:45pm
182 victor_yugo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:28:38pm

I ain't Shakespeare, but:

She dwells in serendipitous delight,
With hair of fire and gaze of tempting draw.
The sirens' call that wrecked ships in the night
Still lives, in words that make my breath run raw.
When standing still, she glides yet over me,
And forces me to let my mind take flight.
Within the molded barrier I see
The shrouded secret of her precious sight.
As sweet strains of Ravel float to my ear,
I come to know the tricks desires play;
As my attention easily draws near
Her sweet perfume, my thoughts are far away.
The charms of Eros and sweet Helen's den:
Such yearning tests the strength of many men.

183 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:28:48pm

re: #174 rawmuse

So is it illegal for me to drive with my cellphone headset on? It looks exactly like my MP3 headphones. This doesn't make any sense since they recently outlawed talking on the cell phone with out a headset.

184 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:29:09pm

re: #170 Archimedes
I understand your concern, but really - I think our Defense budget is something like $560 BILLION a year - where the hell is he gonna get the money to fund it?
And besides, if they act up, all we gotta do is send a call for help to the 82nd Airborne, they'll send a platoon and take care of ALL those black shirt, black bow-tied, Black gunmen.
But I are surprised that the MSM hasn't picked up on this.
I mean, suppose McCain said the same thing - he'd be roasting on a slow spit!

185 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:29:12pm

re: #177 realwest

So which did ya like the most?!
a) 29 Palms or
b) LeJuene
?!

I really thought about it, and I honestly can't come up with a favorite.

I'll tell you what, you come out here and I'll take you four wheeling...and we'll talk about it.

186 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:29:49pm

re: #171 DesertSage Good tracker, is all! STILL GOT IT! LOL!

187 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:30:08pm

re: #172 gop_patriot

Nah, no guard, I work completely alone. Freeway on one side, woods on the other. The know it was dom violence tho, and the guy's car was found in Indiana.

188 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:31:13pm

re: #181 buzzsawmonkey

yes-- i know--but some of these old love songs would sound a little incestuous if mother to son-plus i want to dance a little semi-jazzy-jitterbuggy-cha cha-style--sweet patootie from rhps?

189 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:32:12pm

re: #176 BlueCanuck

Wow, so how's the job search going? ;)

/yeah, I know I have a tendency towards gallows humour.

Beats my gutter humor,lol

190 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:32:16pm

re: #163 trigger girlie

Oh didn't know that. I thought it was like the motorcycle helmet law

191 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:32:25pm

re: #185 DesertSage
Good lord, is that you're idea of FUN? Yup, you sure are a Former Marine! LOL!

192 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:32:25pm

re: #183 oh_dude

So is it illegal for me to drive with my cellphone headset on? It looks exactly like my MP3 headphones. This doesn't make any sense since they recently outlawed talking on the cell phone with out a headset.

You look for SENSE in the laws of California?
(I adore the innocent)
Headsets are not allowed while driving.
I am not saying that plenty of people don't do it.

193 victor_yugo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:33:22pm

Another one:

So far away, and yet so near to me
The face of beauty stands to be beheld
That others more encountered get to see
The shine of Helen for whom warriors fell
The mystery of night surrounds her face
A quiet strength, with quiet strength obscured
And guarded with Divine import's embrace
They see a one whom life has not demurred
But oh! to touch the raven's tresses straight
And see the glint of such a lovely smile
A jealousy makes difficult the wait
And makes an eon of a little while
I long to stand within her company...
Anticipation gets the best of me.

194 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:33:43pm

Holy Bag-O-Pus!

I just spent 4 hours trying to get internet access back.

Just got online again!

If you have Zone Alarm... Do Not Install Today's Windows Updates!

It'll take you down -- no internet access unless you lower your firewall to medium!

195 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:34:28pm

re: #154 realwest

ROTFLMAO! I'm gonna have to remember to steal that one from you!

You may send a check to...:)

196 Metal Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:34:47pm
197 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:34:59pm

re: #187 trigger girlie

Well, stay safe! (good thing I'm here to give you such good advice, ha)

/Glad it wasn't a random thing, but wow, poor woman. :(

198 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:35:30pm

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep - I got an early and long day tomorrow!
I hope all of you have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

Goodnight, all.

199 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:35:52pm

re: #194 stevieray

What a nightmare. And you're the third person to mention it!

200 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:36:32pm

re: #194 stevieray

Thank goodness I don't have it one my work or home computer. Few other people have given us the heads up about that.

201 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:37:34pm

re: #187 trigger girlie

Getting distracted here. At least they know who did it, and I hope they catch the rat bastard.

202 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:37:47pm

re: #194 stevieray
WHOA, just saw your post stevieray - is it just Zone Alarm or any anti-virus programs?!

203 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:38:28pm

re: #192 rawmuse

OK so does that piss anyone else off? I try not to think about things like this, but this is going beyond ridiculous.
Being a native of Cali, I am completely appalled at the direction this state is headed (I know that's probably the understatement of the year)

So, we pay the salaries of the politicians in this Nanny state and all they can do is make so many laws that they actually start conflicting with each other.

204 NY Nana  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:38:42pm

re: #170 Archimedes

It is frightening. Just frightening. But I cannot believe that he will win. I think that this schism between Shrill and Hussein will only get worse, and in the end, kill Hussein's chances. The Billaries care more about bringing him down than they care about the Demonrats, and for our country, which should be any candidate for office's first priority. We have 2 of the worst of the worst Dems who have done nothing for our country, and a hero, John McCain,who does care, and also is far more of a man of the people.

205 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:39:07pm

Hurrrrrgh.

How is everyone?

206 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:40:28pm

re: #202 realwest

please e-mail me w/ amy new updates., ok?

207 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:40:45pm

re: #203 oh_dude

There is a serious shortage of civic (and sometimes personal) responsibility going on here, as you can observe.

208 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:41:04pm

re: #203 oh_dude

I heard something on the news about CA is going to start giving new cars a global warming score.
Does anybody no anything about this?

209 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:41:11pm

re: #206 mikeymom
Yep, I will - if there's anything new to report!

210 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:41:46pm

re: #205 laZardo

are you up late--or early? lol--when my son was little- he woke up from a nap and said--hi mom i slept up early!

211 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:42:34pm

re: #208 DesertSage

...Global Warming score?

I get the feeling that I'll be really thankful that I'm most likely to end up in Washington State rather than California if and when I move back to the United States.

212 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:42:53pm

re: #210 mikeymom

I'm in Manila, it's close to 2 PM.

So I'm up middle. (:

213 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:43:53pm

re: #208 DesertSage
Yeah Sage - while you wuz out Four-Wheeling, that sorry assed excuse for a State Goverment passed a law requiring all vehicles to have a "green" thing pasted on their windows, stating mpg and shit.

Sage, my friend, y'all really do have to get out more! LOL!

AND NOW I'M REALLY GONE!
Hope to get the chance to see you all down the road!

214 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:44:14pm

re: #213 realwest

Cheers, buddeh.

215 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:44:21pm

re: #212 laZardo

ok-- i thought i saw you wiping eye boogers from your eyes when you signed in-

216 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:44:35pm

re: #211 laZardo

...Global Warming score?

I get the feeling that I'll be really thankful that I'm most likely to end up in Washington State rather than California if and when I move back to the United States.

In a lot of ways Washington state is even nuttier then CA.
And it rains a lot.

217 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:44:55pm

re: #194 stevieray

Oops!

I just went back and began reading this thread... y'all already have been told about the fixes.

Shoulda known the lizards would be way ahead of me!

The sad thing is, I usually wait a few days before installing updates for just this reason -- I wait and see if others find problems before I update -- but this time I decided "What the heck" and installed them right away.

Never again!

218 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:45:41pm

re: #192 rawmuse

You look for SENSE in the laws of California?
(I adore the innocent)
Headsets are not allowed while driving.
I am not saying that plenty of people don't do it.

Can you wear a helmet while riding in a car. I can think of a few people that I wouldn't want to be their passenger without one.

219 markie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:45:54pm

77*F in Stumptown, down from the mid-90s so we can do it all again tomorrow.

Between energy and politics the news is just dismal, as nobody seems willing to step up to the plate and really do something substantive (sp?) about either.

I'm going back to my John Wayne movies...except for Hellfighters.

220 Metal Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:46:16pm

re: #208 DesertSage

I heard something on the news about CA is going to start giving new cars a global warming score.
Does anybody no anything about this?

link to story.

221 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:46:25pm

re: #217 stevieray

the words "what the heck" have gotten me in a lot of trouble--and nine computer related

222 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:46:50pm

re: #202 realwest

WHOA, just saw your post stevieray - is it just Zone Alarm or any anti-virus programs?!

That I don't know... just got back online a few minutes ago. I haven't had a chance to check the security message boards yet.

223 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:06pm

re: #184 realwest

I understand your concern, but really - I think our Defense budget is something like $560 BILLION a year - where the hell is he gonna get the money to fund it?
And besides, if they act up, all we gotta do is send a call for help to the 82nd Airborne, they'll send a platoon and take care of ALL those black shirt, black bow-tied, Black gunmen.
But I are surprised that the MSM hasn't picked up on this.
I mean, suppose McCain said the same thing - he'd be roasting on a slow spit!

To me costs are not the issue main issue in this case. They are a trivial side bar. The very fact that he is proposing such a thing is the issue to me. The fact that he put the idea out there and it got past everyone until Charles caught it is amazing.

But the question is still "why"? Why have a civilian force as big and heavily armed as the U.S. military? The kind of societies that have done that in the past are not places I'd associate with freedom and individual rights. One guy mentioned "Brownshirts" and that's not an unreasonable thought.

I'm hoping that Obama is just flat out stupid and this is why he says things like that, but I'm going to take him seriously, because I can't afford to not take him seriously.

224 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:30pm

re: #221 mikeymom

none--PIMF

225 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:31pm

re: #218 elton jon benet

No helmets in a car.

226 vbspurs  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:36pm

re: #208 DesertSage

I heard something on the news about CA is going to start giving new cars a global warming score.
Does anybody no anything about this?

Yes, this is the excerpted report:

OAKLAND, Calif. -- California is making it mandatory for cars to be labeled with global warming scores, figures that take into account emissions from vehicle use and fuel production.

The law requiring the labels goes into effect at the start of next year for all 2009 model cars, though its expected the labels will be popping up on cars in the coming months.

The labeling law forces cars for sale to display a global warming score, on a scale of one to 10, which is based on how vehicles in the same model year compare to one another. The higher the score, the cleaner a car is. The score takes into account emissions related to production of fuel for each vehicle as well as the direct emissions from vehicles.

The score will be displayed next to the already-required smog score, which also rates cars one to 10 for how many smog-forming emissions they emit. For both scores, an average vehicle will have a score of five.

California is the first state of pass such as law, and a similar law will take effect in New York for 2010 model year vehicles. Global warming scores will be included on the state's DriveClean website. [...]

227 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:39pm

re: #216 DesertSage

I don't mind the rain. And at least they don't have a Hollywood.

228 NY Nana  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:45pm

re: #194 stevieray

Holy Bag-O-Pus!

Charles,

A superb nomination for a rotating title!

229 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:55pm

re: #225 rawmuse

No helmets in a car.

Ok, I'll stay out of their cars.

230 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:49:44pm

re: #208 DesertSage

Yeah, Larry Elder was talking about it earlier on his local radio show. Again, words cannot even describe the utter stupidity that is in play here.

I've come to the conslusion that California has been infested with Emoticons (Emotional idiots) for some time now and the legislation of this state reflects that.

Hey, I just bought a car with a low GW score. Gosh I feel so good about myself! I am such a nice person!

All the while, millions of Chinese consumers get ready to unleash tons of Co2 into the atmosphere and they couldn't give a rats ass.

As is if the state of California has it's on seperate environment. What a frigg'n joke.

231 vbspurs  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:49:57pm

re: #203 oh_dude

Being a native of Cali, I am completely appalled at the direction this state is headed (I know that's probably the understatement of the year)

I'm not a native of Cali, or anything, but I have to say, I continue to be appalled by the populism of Arnold Schwarzenegger. A dangerous thing, to be nominally right-wing, and populist...

232 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:50:45pm

re: #229 elton jon benet

love your nic--tragic about that lil girl huh

233 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:51:39pm

re: #232 mikeymom

love your nic--tragic about that lil girl huh

Agreed. Her whole life and death was messed up.

234 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:52:30pm

re: #223 Archimedes

"Civilian National Security Force? Oh, I...uh...actually meant to say the National Guard."

235 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:53:29pm

re: #231 vbspurs

Nah, most of the smart people here are over the whole Governator thing.

As they would say in Hollywood... "That's soooo last week."

236 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:53:31pm

re: #233 elton jon benet

we had just moved to co--near boulder-when that went down--will never forget the first interview w/police chief referring to her parents as 'john and patsy'--

237 markie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:54:43pm

re: #194 stevieray

Condolences. I used Zone Alarm a long time, until I hid myself behind a router and NoScript, and an anti-Virus application.

238 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:55:14pm

re: #236 mikeymom

Spooky way to raise a kid

239 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:56:06pm

re: #238 elton jon benet

and she will never get justice

240 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:57:44pm

re: #239 mikeymom

as taxfreekiller likes to say--the evil money cult--in this case-in boulder , colorado

241 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:57:45pm

re: #239 mikeymom

Yea, I hope they find that kidnapper soon.

242 equable  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:57:58pm
243 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:59:08pm

re: #241 elton jon benet

maybe he's hanging with nicole simpsons killer--2 for 1

244 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:07pm

Would it be politically incorrect to refer to Barack Obama as a "Halfro-American?"

245 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:53pm

re: #244 Alberta Oil Peon

RACIST!

246 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:58pm

re: #243 mikeymom

GMTA. Prolly playing golf somewhere.

247 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:01:44pm

re: #230 oh_dude

Yeah, Larry Elder was talking about it earlier on his local radio show. Again, words cannot even describe the utter stupidity that is in play here.

See, I missed Larry today. I usually listen to him when I can.

I think Arnold has gone bat-shit crazy. I don't know what's gotten into him, he thinks he's going to terminate global warming singlehandedly or something.
This state is getting weirder by the day.

248 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:11pm

re: #242 equable

TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's state television says its Revolutionary Guards have tested nine new long- and medium-range missiles in war games that officials say are in response to U.S. and Israeli threats.

Oh for the love of all that is holy. U.S. and ISRAELI threats?!? This from the country whose President and every mullah in it talks about wiping Israel off the map? GAH

/so, can we consider them an imminent threat now?

249 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:51pm

re: #201 BlueCanuck

My friend just called to tell me that they caught him in Indiana walkin in the cornfield

250 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:44pm

re: #244 Alberta Oil Peon

LMAO

251 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:48pm

re: #248 gop_patriot

i would LOVE to see one of these missles stray a little of course-say--near one of our ships--near, mind you! what would happen?

252 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:38pm

re: #249 trigger girlie

Good news.

253 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:07:25pm

*huff huff huff*

OK... ran around to some forums, and found a few temp fixes until MS and ZA work things out.

Go here to the ZA forums for suggested fixes. I uninstalled the KB951748 update, and things seem ok -- so far.

254 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:08:49pm

re: #249 trigger girlie

Ahh, good. Now if only justice will be served.

255 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:15pm

re: #248 gop_patriot

Oh for the love of all that is holy. U.S. and ISRAELI threats?!? This from the country whose President and every mullah in it talks about wiping Israel off the map? GAH

/so, can we consider them an imminent threat now?



JOEL C. ROSENBERG

War clouds continue to build in the epicenter. Last month in Rome, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed that the United States and Israel would soon be "annihilated," language he had not used so explicitly since October 2005 when he promised to wipe Israel "off the map" and urged Muslims to "envision a world without the United States." This week, his regime authorized a new series of Iranian war games. He ordered the digging of 320,000 graves to bury the enemies of Islam. He is calling for the unification of the Islamic world politically and economically, including the creation of a single currency.

256 Racer X  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:38pm

I'm pretty sure - in California you can legally wear only one earpiece from a wired hands free cell phone cord (or mp3 player). Wearing headphones in both ears will result in a citation.

257 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:42pm

John McCain says he will not open an office in San Francisco.

258 Render  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:12:33pm

I wouldn't open an office in San Francisco either...

QUICK
AND
DIRTY,
R

259 Racer X  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:03pm

re: #257 rawmuse

Code Pink would just picket out front.

260 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:53pm

re: #228 NY Nana

Charles,

A superb nomination for a rotating title!

Aww shucks, Nana -- you're too kind!

261 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:14:12pm

re: #251 mikeymom

re: #253 stevieray

Thank you, I've sent out the warning and this link to family and some friends who might have this problem. :)

262 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:15:20pm

re: #261 gop_patriot

oops, that was to 253 only. lol :p

263 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:17:07pm

re: #251 mikeymom

And NOW I will respond to 251. ;) lol

Don't know know that our guys would love a chance to show how much BETTER they are than the frikkin' Revolutionary Guard?!

264 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:17:26pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

well i dont do that puter speak anyway--but you can talk to me bout something else

265 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:18:28pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

oops, that was to 253 only. lol :p

Too bad... MS could use a few stray missiles whizzing by. Think of them as warning shots!

266 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:20:31pm

re: #204 NY Nana

It is frightening. Just frightening. But I cannot believe that he will win.

Hey, listen, I hope he doesn't win as well, but we don't know that yet. There are so many people out there who are out of sync with reality it's not funny.



I think that this schism between Shrill and Hussein will only get worse, and in the end, kill Hussein's chances. The Billaries care more about bringing him down than they care about the Demonrats, and for our country, which should be any candidate for office's first priority. We have 2 of the worst of the worst Dems who have done nothing for our country, and a hero, John McCain,who does care, and also is far more of a man of the people.

Well, all I care about is that our individual rights are upheld per Thomas Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence, because when we are free we can live. When we are made serfs of the state (taxed and regulated in every conceivable way) all bets are off.

267 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:05pm

well, my fluffy pillow and cat are calling--God bless--

268 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:22pm

re: #255 DesertSage

Exactly, to call for a country to be wiped off the map, to say that the US and Israel "will be annihilated", and then to play wargames and test missiles, what else has to happen before we take care of this situation? For all practical purposes, he's declared war on us both!

/I keep hoping and praying that some democratically minded Iranians will rise up and take back their nation, before it comes to that. But I don't know if there are enough of them to do it, or if they have the will...

269 slokat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:42pm

re: #257 rawmuse

John McCain says he will not open an office in San Francisco.

He should set up an office and put paper on the windows and have computer controlled lighting & voice recordings, plus sounds as if it was a busy office, but no employees. And, always locked doors.

Political Urban Guerrilla Theater

...might drive some moonbats over the edge?

...we are in the 17th week of our vigil and the republican staffers have not been allowed to go home, yet. They are worked 24 hours a day, 7 days a week - think of the children! This is what McCain will do to America!

/ ;)

270 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:47pm

re: #263 gop_patriot

And NOW I will respond to 251. ;) lol

Don't know know that our guys would love a chance to show how much BETTER they are than the frikkin' Revolutionary Guard?!

*sigh* PIMF- "know know" should be "you know".

271 slokat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:54pm

re: #270 gop_patriot

you you, now now, know know, no no?

272 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:25:05pm

re: #256 Racer X

I'm pretty sure - in California you can legally wear only one earpiece from a wired hands free cell phone cord (or mp3 player). Wearing headphones in both ears will result in a citation.

I know the intent is to prevent vehicle operators from blocking out the sounds of car horns and of sirens on emergency vehicles. But in modern, quiet, air-conditioned cars, the sound of the outside world is pretty well blocked out anyway, especially if you really have the tunes cranked up.

This could easily be solved by technology. Simply have all car horns, and all emergency vehicle sirens, emit, in tandem with the audible sound, a radio-frequency signal on a designated channel. All new cars could be built with an always-on receiver tuned to this channel, and it would be wired to over-ride the car's own sound system at a high level. Private vehicles would be equipped with very low-power RF transmitters coupled to the horns, so it would only break through the receiver squelch on other vehicles in very close proximity. Big trucks and railroad locomotives would be permitted more power, because they pose a greater danger to a daydreaming motorist. And emergency vehicles would be allowed the maximum power needed to do the job.

If directional antennas were used, you could even have a little graphic on the dash to pinpoint the direction from which the warning signal was coming. This would be a big help to me, as I have a hard time fixing the direction of sounds like emergency vehicle sirens.

None of this would cost an arm and a leg to implement, and it would be easy to design an accessory system to retro-fit existing cars.

273 NY Nana  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:25:58pm

re: #260 stevieray

you're too kind!

And you're way too funny, Stevie! That made my day. And now I am off to sleep, perchance to dream.

That really would be a great rotating title, BTW.

G'nite, lizards! Sweet dreams.

274 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:25:59pm

re: #265 stevieray

LOL! My personal missile shot at MS was when I bought a Mac.

/Although, didn't give them much of a warning... I don't think swearing at my PC counts since they couldn't hear me. ;)

275 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:27:50pm

re: #274 gop_patriot

LOL! My personal missile shot at MS was when I bought a Mac.

/Although, didn't give them much of a warning... I don't think swearing at my PC counts since they couldn't hear me. ;)

I understand Bill Gates is retiring. Maybe all that swearing got to him at last.

276 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:28:57pm

re: #271 slokat

*snicker* You'd think I was drinking, looking at my posts tonight. But it's just caffeine and antihistamines. I am buzzing. lol

277 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:30:24pm

re: #248 gop_patriot

Oh for the love of all that is holy. U.S. and ISRAELI threats?!? This from the country whose President and every mullah in it talks about wiping Israel off the map? GAH

/so, can we consider them an imminent threat now?


but, but..maybe we should wait.. you know, just long enough for obama to talk to them. It's probably just a minor misunderstanding anyway. After a good talking to, they'll see that obama is going to CHANGE everything and we will all be safe.
/

278 NY Nana  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:19pm

re: #266 Archimedes

And this is a post-9/11 election. No one can really predict, as it has been so weird...but my gut feeling is that McCain will win.

Every time Hussein opens his mouth, more people see that there is no substance...cotton candy comes out of his mouth, and soon disappears, along with his latest flip flop.

Letting his 2 little girls be interview reeks of desperation. Using 2 little kids? Chelsea Clintoon was bad enough, but this?

I still feel that very damaging info will appear on him, but pray it is after their convention to keep Shrill from snagging the nomination. And there is more than enough about the Billaries.

I agree with you, but must get to sleep!

G'nite!

279 profitsbeard  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:29pm

Everyone should imprint one Shakespeare sonnet on their synapses.

From memory:

Shall I compare thee to a Summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate.
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May
And Summer's lease hath all too short a date.

Sometimes too hot the eye of heaven shines
And often is his gold complexion dimmed,
And every fair from fair sometimes declines
By chance or Nature's changing course, untrimmed.

But thy eternal Summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow'st,
No shall Death brag thou wand'rest in his shade
When in eternal lines to Time thou grow'est.

So long as men can breathe or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.

Amazes little children, charms nubile maids, and staves off Alzheimer's.
__________________________________________________ ___

(archaic/poetic word: "ow'st" = own)

280 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:01pm

re: #277 MarineMomSue

but, but..maybe we should wait.. you know, just long enough for obama to talk to them. It's probably just a minor misunderstanding anyway. After a good talking to, they'll see that obama is going to CHANGE everything and we will all be safe.
/

My leg just tingles thinking about the obamessiah swooping in and setting the mullahs straight! Someone get me a bottle of water, quick, I'm gonna fall out...

///

281 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:29pm

British police tell self-confessed murderer to wait in line.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

What is wrong with those people?

282 freetoken  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:37:21pm

U.S. incapable of attacking Iran - Ahmadinejad

TEHRAN, July 8 (RIA Novosti) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Tuesday that the U.S. was currently incapable of launching an attack on the Islamic Republic, Iranian national media reported.[...]

'The economic, political and military capacities of the U.S. will not allow [U.S. President] Bush to attack Iran," he said.[...]

Ahmadinejad said however that there were no signs of an imminent armed conflict, and labeled the rumors "propaganda."
[...]

283 Metal Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:38:27pm

re: #279 profitsbeard

My Father would spout this kinda stuff in German and old English to me growing up. You are right it is impressive.

284 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:17pm

I find it interesting that while Justice Breyer and Kennedy search for European law to support their leftist agenda, the Europeans cite the US Constitution to support civil liberties and the common meaning of language. Both of which are again disappearing in Europe. Breyer is a shallow fool, looking for importance. Kennedy is a preening idiot, stroked by the liberal press, easily led to the trough.

285 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:40:25pm

re: #276 gop_patriot

*snicker* You'd think I was drinking, looking at my posts tonight. But it's just caffeine and antihistamines. I am buzzing. lol

depending on your metabolism and which meds, they will do that...

/lurves me some chlorphenaramine 4mg. %-)

286 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:40:55pm

re: #281 The Other Les

British police tell self-confessed murderer to wait in line.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

What is wrong with those people?

They have entered a world where there is no right or wrong, only conformity. Britain is becoming 1984, hell on Earth.

287 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:42:44pm

re: #284 pat

I find it interesting that while Justice Breyer and Kennedy search for European law to support their leftist agenda, the Europeans cite the US Constitution to support civil liberties and the common meaning of language. Both of which are again disappearing in Europe. Breyer is a shallow fool, looking for importance. Kennedy is a preening idiot, stroked by the liberal press, easily led to the trough.

you are too kind to both of them.

do you ever read Patterico? he's always got good legal stuff: IIRC, he's an ADA here in town.

288 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:43:36pm

re: #279 profitsbeard

In hs, my sr. English/Lit class had to memorize the prologue from the Canturbury Tales, in Middle English-

Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
Whan Zephirus eek with his sweete breeth
Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
The tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
Hath in the Ram his halfe cours yronne,
And smale foweles maken melodye,
That slepen al the nyght with open eye-
(So priketh hem Nature in hir corages);
Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages
And palmeres for to seken straunge strondes
To ferne halwes, kowthe in sondry londes;
And specially from every shires ende
Of Engelond, to Caunterbury they wende,
The hooly blisful martir for to seke
That hem hath holpen, whan that they were seeke.

Wheee. :) I can only remember the first two lines now. LOL

289 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:44:16pm

re: #282 freetoken

U.S. incapable of attacking Iran - Ahmadinejad

Hey Ahmadinejad... wanna bet?

290 profitsbeard  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:28pm

re: #286 pat

They have entered a world where there is no right or wrong, only conformity. Britain is becoming 1984, hell on Earth.

Too busy putting Muslim-friendly "booties? on their sniffer dogs, one guesses?

291 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:55pm

re: #281 The Other Les

The best part is that comments aren't being permitted for the story. The line used is that legal proceedings are underway. I think they don't want the common man screaming his head off about how useless the police force is making themselves look.

/but they could also be telling the truth about the why.

292 slokat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:49:00pm

re: #290 profitsbeard

I realize it's not what you are referring to but,

Muslim Friendly Booty?

hhmm, hooker in hajib?

293 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:02pm

Goodnight all.

Fried too many brain cells tonight, gotta get some Z's.

294 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:35pm

re: #285 redc1c4

Zyrtec. But it's probably mostly the caffeine. I have had TWO Rt. 44 sweet teas from Sonic this afternoon and evening. :p

295 profitsbeard  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:53:38pm

re: #288 gop_patriot

Which brings T.S. Eliot's "Wasteland" twist of Chaucer to mind:

April is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire...

296 ASU86PE  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:55:25pm

Oh great, the thread starts with Shakespear and no one leads.

I personally liked William's opening lines in the Romeo and Juliet balcony scene. He get's away with "She speaks, yet she says nothing." Get's me in trouble every time.

G-Night

297 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:58:21pm

re: #234 laZardo

Good thought. That's how he'd probably spin it.

298 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:59:33pm

re: #286 pat

They have entered a world where there is no right or wrong, only conformity. Britain is becoming 1984, hell on Earth.

time for V for Vendetta

299 victor_yugo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:00:45am

California doesn't have INNOCENCE.

California has IN-NO-SENSE.

300 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:03:09am

Speaking of sonnets, this one has to be my favourite.

Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds...and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of...wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew.
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.


I read this in HS english class as part of our poetry section. I just happened to have done my first solo flight on my glider scholarship. The way I was able to read it grabbed the class and teachers attention. I still feel it all these years later.

301 WindHorse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:05:07am

re: #300 BlueCanuck

very well done.

302 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:05:15am

re: #282 freetoken

U.S. incapable of attacking Iran - Ahmadinejad

i'll take that bet, and cover whatever he cares to put up.

we might have to outsource the yellow paint, but they're a "gimmie" in the scheme of things. other than manpower, which is finite, their military is for shit, and we can hammer them from at least 3 sides..... and then you take out the C3I.

303 pat  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:06:04am

Nite all.

304 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:06:29am

re: #299 victor_yugo

California doesn't have INNOCENCE.

California has IN-NO-SENSE.

yeah, but we have *really* good wine, great beaches, and the most beautiful women in the world......

(who'd want innocence with all that? %-)

305 pat  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:08:32am

re: #288 gop_patriot

Chaucer was the worst speller among a nation that let anyone make their own spelling rules.

306 victor_yugo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:08:37am

re: #304 redc1c4

yeah, but we have *really* good wine, great beaches, and the most beautiful women in the world......

And the Assembly squanders it all.

307 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:08:49am

re: #300 BlueCanuck

Oh yeah, I forgot the title is "High Flight" by John Gillespie Magee Jr. an American who flew in the RCAF before the U.S. joined in WWII. This page has the poem and his bio.

308 victor_yugo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:11:03am

re: #302 redc1c4

we can hammer them from at least 3 sides

Last weekend, I heard a strategic description of "a war with Iran" as "a third front."

I pointed out to my family that it would not be so. Rather, it would be simply a merging of two fronts (Afghanistan and Iraq) into one.

309 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:13:33am

re: #306 victor_yugo

And the Assembly squanders it all.

i didn't vote for them......

/not that it did any good. %-)

310 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:21:25am

re: #308 victor_yugo

Last weekend, I heard a strategic description of "a war with Iran" as "a third front."

I pointed out to my family that it would not be so. Rather, it would be simply a merging of two fronts (Afghanistan and Iraq) into one.

BlackFive posted that as his patented "exit strategy" from the "quagmire of Irag & Afghanistan"......

the map showed movement from all border areas of the two countries, merging in Iran.....

/w*rks for me

311 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:26:14am

They're still at it.

Grrr...

[Link: www.theneweditor.com...]

312 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:28:22am

re: #305 pat

LOL!

313 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:28:53am

re: #311 The Other Les

Oh, gag.

314 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:35:30am

re: #311 The Other Les

What's with making him look saintly? I swear that this is not going to stop until he gaffs to large to hide or a miracle happens to keep him out of the race.

315 RTLM  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:35:48am

This is rich:

CNN: Rebels proposed peace days before hostage rescue

Alfonso Cano, leader of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, sent a message to his supporters recently proposing talks with the government on an exchange of prisoners and possible peace deal, according to a RCN Radio of Colombia, which revealed the letter in a broadcast Tuesday, and the Bolivariana News Agency of Venezuela.

The message was dated June 28 -- a few days before a Colombian raid freed 15 high-profile hostages that had been under the FARC's control, including former Colombian presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt and three U.S. defense contractors.

It was not possible to determine whether Cano maintained his position after the raid, the Bolivariana News Agency reported.

/Just give peace a chance!

Dear CNN,
Farc off, you.

316 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:42:34am

re: #314 BlueCanuck

What's with making him look saintly? I swear that this is not going to stop until he gaffs to large to hide or a miracle happens to keep him out of the race.

The bigger question should be why are they obsessed with being identified as some kind of superior being? Like the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas.

I think it derives from a need to be seen as an authority and thus be able to demand obedience from us mere mortals.

317 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:51:34am

Oh frak! Did I just kill the thread?

318 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:52:37am

re: #288 gop_patriot

It was right about this time that Anglish (English) moved away from its Dutch-German pronunciations (roote = rote, long O, not oo, WITH the final e voiced as in rot-uh), yet kept the spellings (as mnemonic hooks?) as in droghte (drought)[drot-uh]...

IF you read it as if it were like modern Dutch, it has meter and rhyme...

319 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:54:47am

re: #316 The Other Les

Wow! "Muster Gas", you iggorant foole...

He was secure in HIS knowledge of your ignorance, wasn't he?

320 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:57:28am

re: #317 The Other Les

Oh frak! Did I just kill the thread?

Ha, better you than me. ;) I was over at Jigzone doing an online puzzle. Again. I'm addicted.

321 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:59:27am

re: #318 Carridine

Yes! We had to say it to the teacher for our grade. With ye olde pronunciation and everything. :) That was the fun of it. It has really good cadence.

322 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:59:46am

re: #320 gop_patriot

And after posting, I went for a flight in the oldest flying Boeing!

323 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:00:25am

re: #298 redc1c4

V will have to get back to you on that...

/they don't call him the Epic Fail Guy for nothing...

324 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:00:46am

re: #319 Carridine

Wow! "Muster Gas", you iggorant foole...

He was secure in HIS knowledge of your ignorance, wasn't he?

Well, Ayn Rand used to say that a mental short cut was in fact a mental short circuit. And he certainly zorched himself there.

325 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:01:30am

What a moron.

Seriously, the people could have died. Some officers got sick; what was this fool thinking?

326 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:02:31am

re: #321 gop_patriot

Yup.

And I see you've introduced yet another Olde English-ism, ye...

That y-shaped letter was a since-dropped letter which was pronounced th

as in "Priyee, pass me ye book..."
(Prithee, pass me the book...")
(Pray thee, pass me the book...")

327 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:04:31am

re: #322 Carridine

Cool! I bookmarked it.

re: #326 Carridine

The things I learn in the middle of the night on LGF... :)

328 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:05:47am

re: #325 gop_patriot

I know what he's thinking now. "Man that's the last time I use the same bowl from the hash brownies dude."

/Thank god for stupid criminals.

329 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:05:56am

re: #325 gop_patriot

What a moron.

Seriously, the people could have died. Some officers got sick; what was this fool thinking?

That he was going to mess up some police officers.

When some folks use dehumanizing terms like "pigs" and "fuzz" they're likely to treat those labeled as something less than human.

330 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:06:46am

re: #326 Carridine

Wow, thanks. I didn't know that. I guess I should have guessed though from usage.

331 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:08:33am

re: #330 BlueCanuck

I'll see if I can find a link, Blue... but don't hold yer breath...

Sheesh, a nasty black storm coming in, and I'm still downtown in my 19th-floor office, working...

332 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:09:09am

re: #316 The Other Les

The bigger question should be why are they obsessed with being identified as some kind of superior being? Like the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas.

I think it derives from a need to be seen as an authority and thus be able to demand obedience from us mere mortals.

they obviously haven't read any history on how that "demanding" has w*rked out previously here in the US........ i'd suggest "Lexington vs. Brits" for starters.......

/can they read?

333 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:11:15am

re: #332 redc1c4

Hmmm... they CAN read, at least in a rudimentary fashion, but they don't seem capable of reading for meaning, if you get MY meaning, get my drift...

334 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:16:45am

re: #332 redc1c4

they obviously haven't read any history on how that "demanding" has w*rked out previously here in the US........ i'd suggest "Lexington vs. Brits" for starters.......

/can they read?

Of course some of them can read. But their bullshit detector is inoperable.

335 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:17:46am

re: #328 BlueCanuck

No kidding, very stupid; he is 18, an adult. He's in deep sh*t.

re: #329 The Other Les

I agree.

336 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:18:56am

In any case I'm going to crash now.

Good night.

337 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:23:36am

re: #336 The Other Les
Some nights more, some with Les
Some are without Les,
No Moore?
No Moor!

338 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:24:44am

Night Les, have yourself weet and geek dreams.

339 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:26:29am

so while everyone is focused on the genius that brought *goodies* to the police station, i'll head over here to the (allegedly) hidden fruit cup fixins......

your cerebellum and cerebral cortex should stand by for what they are about to receive. %-)

/white smoke

340 RTLM  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:36:05am

OT: (/news!)
Iran launches 9 missiles over Strait of Hormouz and Persian Gulf.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Hit something and game on.

(we'll just forget the past 29 years)

341 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:41:47am

re: #338 BlueCanuck

Night Les, have yourself weet and geek dreams.

got a book for ya to find:

Blood Red Snow
by
Gunter K. Koschorrek
(there's an umlat on the "Gunter")

life as a Panzergrenadier on the Eastern Front......

342 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:42:49am

re: #340 RTLM

OT: (/news!)
Iran launches 9 missiles over Strait of Hormouz and Persian Gulf.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Hit something and game on.

(we'll just forget the past 29 years)

if they had thought for even a second that they were gonna hit something, they never would have fired.

343 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:47:25am

Iran ready to talk with US candidates

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that since Iran favors dialogue, it is ready to hold talks with the US presidential candidates before mass media.
[...]
"Last year, I announced in the UN Headquarters at New York that I am ready to talk with Bush about the global issues and now I also declare that I am prepared to debate with the US presidential candidates," the president said.

Asked by Reuters about Iran's stance on nuclear issue, Ahmadinejad said, "Our nuclear position completely is clear: law and justice for all." "We will never withdraw from our positions even by an inch,"

Come'on Hussein...this one's for you!

20 seconds max. That's all the time I'd give Hussein before he'd have his pants around his ankles with Ahmadinejad mounted 'mullah style' riding him around the stage.

Deliverance you can believe in!

Mornin folks... Congress barely scratching it out for single-digit approval; Pelosi & Co. attempting some kind of internet censorship of members and God only knows what else. Not looking pretty.

Not looking pretty at all.

And all in a single days disgrace.

344 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:49:06am

re: #341 redc1c4

I will look it up and put it on my list.

/ever growing and never shrinking.
//I read way too much. ;)

345 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:50:41am

re: #343 aboo-Hoo-Hoo


/CHANGE!

/pouring doubles for all hands and plusing up the fruit cup.

/it's gonna be a loooooooooong year. %-)

346 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:53:46am

re: #344 BlueCanuck

I will look it up and put it on my list.

/ever growing and never shrinking.
//I read way too much. ;)

i read like the rest of the world watched TV.

the usual suspects here turned be on to Brad Thor in the last two weeks or so.

i've already read 3 of his output, and the rest are on order from the PL, hence the sidebar you're referred to.

2/3 through..... it's a good read.

(imho, oc. %-)

347 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:57:18am

re: #346 redc1c4

T.V.? What's that? I have one of those beasts in my living room that hasn't been turned on in over 6 months. I watch a little at the GF's but only an hour here or there. Haven't had cable for over five years. The main reason why was for what channels I was viewing the price was too high. Essentially over $50/month for at the most ten channels. But I have been like that most of my life.

/got well known around all the libraries in my home town. Public and school.

348 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

349 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:01:28am

get yer high octane, germ free fruit cup here! fruit cup, we've got yer fruit cup right here!

/white smoke

350 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:02:39am

re: #348 littleoldlady

Morning littleoldlady. Hope you're having a good day.

351 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:03:29am

So, you've got a choice:

red's "high octane, germ free fruit cup" or... fruitcup.

/or ocean front property in Kansas City...

352 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:04:43am

BlueCanuck! :-)

I'm having the darndest time getting out from under.

/gave myself a deadline
//loaded gun at the ready

How's by you?

353 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:05:42am

re: #351 littleoldlady

You got fruitcup...but what about cups of fruit? O_O

354 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:06:41am

re: #351 littleoldlady

So, you've got a choice:

red's "high octane, germ free fruit cup" or... fruitcup.

/or ocean front property in Kansas City...

or, what's likely to be Blue's fav: Pink Lady UFO.

/wtf? CHANGE!

355 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:07:01am

laZardo! :-)

This is a no-whining zone.

;-)

356 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:09:08am

re: #354 redc1c4

Very nice. Just sent my cat scurrying up the stairs....

357 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:11:40am

re: #352 littleoldlady
Undecided today, so lets just say meh. :|

re: #354 redc1c4

Interesting. . . . . . .

358 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:15:15am

re: #356 littleoldlady

Very nice. Just sent my cat scurrying up the stairs....

there's a Southpark joke there....... %-)

359 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:16:45am

re: #348 littleoldlady

Good morning!

re: #354 redc1c4

What the heck was that?! LOL!

360 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:18:50am

Good Morning, class! Today, we will be studying linguistics.

361 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:19:02am

Hey, gop! :-)

362 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:21:07am

re: #351 littleoldlady

So, you've got a choice:

red's "high octane, germ free fruit cup" or... fruitcup.

/or ocean front property in Kansas City...

Oh- I learned THAT lesson!

/Takes a cup of genuine littleoldlady brand Fruitcup™

363 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:21:15am

Ah, thank you for the refreshements!

[scoops up armful of LoL fruitcup]

[collects a hefty redc1c4 with free hand]

[wanders over to table by the stereo]

364 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:21:24am

PIMF -e

365 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:23:21am

re: #363 MajorPribluda

Ah, thank you for the refreshements!

[scoops up armful of LoL fruitcup]

[collects a hefty redc1c4 with free hand]

[wanders over to table by the stereo]

your hand ain't that big..... %-)

366 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:23:22am

::blinks::

[looks around suddenly empty room--checks armpits?]

367 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:24:20am

BBIAW, computer wants to update. Hope we don't have zone alarm on the work computer or we be screwed.

368 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:24:47am

Sharmuta! :-)

/linen napkins provided, free of charge. ;-)

MajorPribluda! :-)

Stereo? Bwahahaha! Somebody as old as I am!

/or Hi-Fi. Remember hi-fis?

369 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:25:04am

re: #365 redc1c4

your hand ain't that big..... %-)

Heh--misspelkled redc1c4 twice, forgot to add "DOUBLE".

Did not scoop up red.

/Uh, how 'bout dem Bears?

370 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:25:16am

re: #360 MajorPribluda

LOL!

I like this one- You Are Dead

371 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:25:40am

re: #368 littleoldlady

Sharmuta! :-)

/linen napkins provided, free of charge. ;-)

MajorPribluda! :-)

Stereo? Bwahahaha! Somebody as old as I am!

/or Hi-Fi. Remember hi-fis?

Remember when 8-tracks seemed complicated?

372 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:25:48am

{littleoldlady!}

Thank you for the linen- I've needed to boost my fiber intake lately. ;)

373 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:28:07am

8 tracks? Heck, I remember spinning 45s.

/Brim full of Asha

374 Ledger1  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:29:02am

re: #282 freetoken

This is not good. Even if Iran can’t develop a 1 ton nuke, a ton of good old TNT can do a lot of damage.

The Tehran TV bulletin Wednesday, July 9, announcing the test-launch of the Shehab-3 missile, one of nine launched from an undisclosed desert location, stressed that with a 2,000 km range it could reach Israel.

DEBKAfile reports: Two other types of missile with shorter ranges were also fired as part of the Great Prophet III war games launched two days ago by Revolutionary Guards navy, air force and ground units. Along with the statement, Guards air force commander Hossein Salami said: "We are ready to defend the integrity of the Iranian nation." Tuesday, the senior IRGC Navy cleric said: If the US attacks Iran, “we will immediately strike back at Tel Aviv. Our first target is Tel Aviv and only then will we attack US shipping in the Persian Gulf.” Monday, a US-UK-Bahrani naval exercise began to drill measures for protecting Gulf oil installations.


Iran tests 2,000 Km, one-ton shehab-3 missile

375 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:30:06am

re: #373 Sharmuta

8 tracks? Heck, I remember spinning 45s.

/Brim full of Asha

i've gotta RCA gramaphone right outside the door here....

and the shellac to play on it, were you dumb enough to do so.

376 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:31:16am

re: #375 redc1c4

i've gotta RCA gramaphone right outside the door here....

and the shellac to play on it, were you dumb enough to do so.

Wow! So when did you acquire that? Right after the rocks cooled? ;)

377 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:32:44am

re: #374 Ledger1

This is not good. Even if Iran can’t develop a 1 ton nuke, a ton of good old TNT can do a lot of damage.

The Tehran TV bulletin Wednesday, July 9, announcing the test-launch of the Shehab-3 missile, one of nine launched from an undisclosed desert location, stressed that with a 2,000 km range it could reach Israel.

DEBKAfile reports: Two other types of missile with shorter ranges were also fired as part of the Great Prophet III war games launched two days ago by Revolutionary Guards navy, air force and ground units. Along with the statement, Guards air force commander Hossein Salami said: "We are ready to defend the integrity of the Iranian nation." Tuesday, the senior IRGC Navy cleric said: If the US attacks Iran, “we will immediately strike back at Tel Aviv. Our first target is Tel Aviv and only then will we attack US shipping in the Persian Gulf.” Monday, a US-UK-Bahrani naval exercise began to drill measures for protecting Gulf oil installations.


Iran tests 2,000 Km, one-ton shehab-3 missile

well, as long as the Iranians are taking a humorous outlook on this, why should the rest of the world get excited......

/good laugh had by all

378 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:33:24am

re: #371 MajorPribluda

Remember when 8-tracks seemed complicated?


8-tracks were complicated. I never did understand how to work those stupid things! Of course, I was only in elementary school at the time; they were gone before I drove a car. LOL I had a cassette player in my land yacht. :)

379 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:34:12am

re: #376 Sharmuta

Wow! So when did you acquire that? Right after the rocks cooled? ;)

we bought it at your garage sale, when you were thinking of going into the home the first time.

/what do the trustees say now? %-)

380 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:35:57am

re: #379 redc1c4

Nah- I'm just a whippersnapper yet.

381 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:35:59am

re: #374 Ledger1

The Tehran TV bulletin Wednesday, July 9, announcing the test-launch of the Shehab-3 missile, one of nine launched from an undisclosed desert location, stressed that with a 2,000 km range it could reach Israel.

DEBKAfile reports: Two other types of missile with shorter ranges were also fired as part of the Great Prophet III war games launched two days ago by Revolutionary Guards navy, air force and ground units. Along with the statement, Guards air force commander Hossein Salami said: "We are ready to defend the integrity of the Iranian nation." Tuesday, the senior IRGC Navy cleric said: If the US attacks Iran, “we will immediately strike back at Tel Aviv. Our first target is Tel Aviv and only then will we attack US shipping in the Persian Gulf.” Monday, a US-UK-Bahrani naval exercise began to drill measures for protecting Gulf oil installations.

I'd love to say his threats are a load of baloney...

382 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:42:25am

Gah, I hate this work computer. Did a restart like M$ said I should, reboot and log back on and that cursed shield is still there. I hope the day guy has proper admin access other wise we have two whole weeks of suck.

/big boss gone for that time.

383 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:45:03am

G8 backs negotiating path over Iran nuclear programme

The Group of Eight (G8) leading industrial countries called Wednesday on Iran to suspend its nuclear programme, but again vowed to try and resolve the issue through negotiation.

‘We express our serious concern at the proliferation risks posed by Iran's nuclear programme and Iran's continued failure to meet its international obligations,’ G8 leaders said in a statement issued at their meeting in Toyako, Japan.

Well..uh yoop...this negotiating stuff with the Mullah's has sure worked-out swell so far. Let's do'er some more.

/Hey there Lol! ;)

384 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:45:13am

re: #381 laZardo

I'd love to say his threats are a load of baloney...

if'n he ain't careful, and someone on our side gets a spine, he's gonna threat hisself to death.

my cats could kick his ass.

385 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:46:26am

re: #382 BlueCanuck

Gah, I hate this work computer. Did a restart like M$ said I should, reboot and log back on and that cursed shield is still there. I hope the day guy has proper admin access other wise we have two whole weeks of suck.

/big boss gone for that time.

format C: and rebuild?

(just tell the boss it was always like that. %-)

386 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:46:43am

re: #370 gop_patriot

LOL!

I like this one- You Are Dead

Somebody posted this last night:

lolcat Bible
.

I particularly recommend Genesis 1 and the lolcat's Prayer.

/Not for the religiously a-humorous.
//Not offensive, unless you find the very idea of religous-themed parodies offensive.
///Cute, actually, unless you hurl at the sight of lolcat.

387 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:48:19am

re: #384 redc1c4

To be honest, unless Israel gets seriously de-fanged in the short term, that kind of missile probably wouldn't make it farther than the West Bank before the AA batteries kick in...

388 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:49:04am

re: #385 redc1c4

I wish, I am so crippled in certain areas that I don't think that is at all possible. It is tempting though. :)

389 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:49:57am

aboo! :-)

Long time no type to!

/stuck under the overpass
//or is that over the underpass?

390 freetoken  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:50:45am

Perks of penance for Saudi jihadis

In a small compound on the outskirts of Riyadh, the Saudi government is exploring new ways to combat extremism.
This is still a prison, run by the Ministry of Interior and housed inside secure premises with high perimeter walls and barbed wire, but the Saudi authorities prefer to call it a "care centre" and refer to prisoners as "beneficiaries".

This is not what you would imagine when you think of a typical Saudi jail.

Inside, prisoners enjoy access to wide-ranging recreational facilities including their own swimming pools, video games and table tennis.

In return for the more relaxed environment, prisoners have to attend religious education classes where Islamic scholars challenge their views.
[...]
Since its creation no-one from the care centre has reoffended.

But the support received by prisoners on their release suggests their reasons for maintaining good behaviour might not always reflect genuine ideological change.
Graduates can typically expect the government to meet the cost of their wedding and have also enjoyed home refurbishments along with new cars.

Recommend read the whole thing.

391 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:53:25am

re: #386 MajorPribluda

I've seen that! Borderline, I'd say. X)

///Cute, actually, unless you hurl at the sight of lolcat.

I lurve me some LOLcats.

392 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:56:15am

re: #360 MajorPribluda
Major, your linkie couldn't slip past the Decency Filter here in Bangkok...

393 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:59:04am

re: #390 freetoken

Perks of penance for Saudi jihadis

Recommend read the whole thing.

i recommend (deleted, to protect my status).

/guess. %-)

394 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:59:29am

re: #390 freetoken
Yup. We've known for years (as has KSA) that the Kingdom entered into a Devil's Contract with the extremists, vis-a-vis "We'll FUND you, but you can't DO THAT STUFF here!"

/birds, roost, home... you understand, Token...

395 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:01:20am

re: #360 MajorPribluda

As we say on the wiki next door...

396 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:04:29am

Iran seeks seat on Security Council - Dismisses sanctions on nukes Since we're doing so swell shutting-down the Mullah's nuclear program, let's give'em seat on the Council. Hell, give'em a permanent seat with veto!

yup, yup...yup... That'll show'em!

397 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:05:28am

re: #392 Carridine

Major, your linkie couldn't slip past the Decency Filter here in Bangkok...

Hmmm. It could be that the whole site is listed as bad, or that the content of the page is triggering a block. If it's the whole site, then I cold paste the content of the page here (it's not bad). But if there is something in the page which for some reason unbeknownst to me is triggering a block, then you might also have this thread blocked from your view.

Your call.

It's not all that funny. It's just a mish-mash of big words.

398 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:10:23am

re: #396 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I wonder who they'll be squaring off against. Venezuela vs. Guatemala made me quite the popcorn-guzzler.

399 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:18:56am

re: #289 stevieray

we have the ability but do we have the will?

400 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:28:43am

re: #389 littleoldlady

Lol, conflicts - really a bitch. However, the overpass over the underpass is all set-up and ready to go. ;)

401 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:30:09am

re: #397 MajorPribluda
Nah, just wanted to let you know, Major...

And I'm working overtime on some financial reports here in downtown Bangkok, so I don't have time for foolishness nohow...

/danged foolishness, mebbe, but otherwise... :D

402 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:32:41am

I dunno if anyone has posted this yet, but I heard on the radio a few minutes ago that the US consulate here in Istanbul was attacked by some people with machine guns. From what I understand 2 Turkish cops are dead and several wounded. I haven't heard if any consulate people or US citizens were hit.

403 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:34:13am

re: #402 baconeatingkaffir

Just came up on my news feed. Six dead so far.

404 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:35:44am

posted and reported for Charles to find.

405 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:36:17am

Six dead after US consulate shooting in Istanbul

Glad to see thang's are moving right along in Turkey. Only been a day or so since the 'police' rounded-up a couple more generals. Secularists, I believe.

Imagine that?

406 little blessing  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:37:49am

This is sick.

407 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:38:07am

re: #405 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

The Ergenekon affair has been going on for over a year now. Not only have secular retired generals and admirals been rounded up, but so have businessmen, authors, and other enemies of the ruling party here.

408 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:42:11am

Gonna head home from work. BBL.

409 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:42:19am

re: #403 BlueCanuck

And the BBC page.

410 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:43:42am

re: #406 little blessing

This is sick.

Yes it is. Vile, disgusting excuses for women.

411 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:46:16am

re: #10 gop_patriot

Pasadena and Los Angeles and lots of other cities are below and to the south.

412 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:53:27am
For I have sworn thee fair, and thought thee bright, who art as black as hell, as dark as night.

— William Shakespeare

I've always liked that quote. I also think it will, about six months after the election, very accurately reflect the mood of all the "undecideds" who vote for BO if (G*d forbid) he should win.

/Good Morning Everybody!

413 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:54:00am

re: #110 jcm

England brought peace and order to an India full of petty squabbling princedoms.

For instance.

414 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:54:30am

re: #412 CIA Reject

Yeah but if BO wins, who will the left blame? They can't blame "the man" anymore. Will they throw him under the bus as well and call him a tool of the establishment?

415 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:58:31am

Good Morning Lizard nation! If you are not here, raise your hand.

416 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:01:13am

llll/

417 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:02:31am

re: #414 baconeatingkaffir

Yeah but if BO wins, who will the left blame? They can't blame "the man" anymore. Will they throw him under the bus as well and call him a tool of the establishment?

I think they'll have all the "usual suspects": Exxon, Halliburton, General Motors, and the entire defense industry to spin conspiracy theories on and try to blame.

Also I don't think they'll throw BO under the bus- he's too much of a "useful idiot" to sacrifice after getting him into so high an office. Rather I think the meme will be that Bush so "completely screwed things up" that BO could not possibly "straighten it all out" in one term and hence deserves a SECOND term to finish "fixing" all the things Bush "screwed up".

That's how I see it anyway...

418 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:03:05am

re: #415 opnion

:p~~~~~~

/just another drooling idiot this morning.

419 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:04:11am

The Obama is such a multi tasker. He is now dispensing travel advice.
He is admonishing American tourists to Europe to, "Speak the local language."Have you noticed that his advice is always a slap on the wrist?"

420 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:04:31am

..l., to any moonbats, trolls, or moby's out there the rest of you

;-)

421 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:04:55am

re: #418 BlueCanuck

:p~~~~~~

/just another drooling idiot this morning.

How are things up North?

422 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:05:35am

re: #407 baconeatingkaffir

Erdogan's been moving East, hell, he's a lifer Islamist - all sorts of moves and deals with Tehran. Gul(another Islamist) has been working with Syria. It doesn't take a genius to figure-out who's gunna end-up getting screwed - then there's State and Olmert.

423 Tigger2005  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:06:09am

re: #75 Wyatt Earp

And now, James Garner is doing Rascal commercials or other such nonsense. Damned shame when your film faves are getting old. I'm 39, and I cannot imagine what life will be like when Harrison Ford leaves us.

Good grief, the man's healthy as a horse. We'll have him for another 20 or 30 years at least, if he's not beheaded for insulting Islam with that scene with the Arab swordsman in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

What about all those who have left us...Bob Hope, George Burns, Kirk Douglas, Cary Grant, Gregory Peck, James Stewart, Grace Kelly, Katharine Hepburn, Audrey Hepburn, John Wayne...now what do we have?

424 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:06:15am

re: #415 opnion

*Reject raises hand*

/G'mornin!

425 little blessing  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:07:04am

re: #419 opnion

Would that be Arabic?

/Is he multi-lingual?

426 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:07:47am

re: #422 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Erdogan is a Fetullah Gulen puppet. Speaking of Hodja Efendi, he's not being given a greencard and has to leave the US. Finally, the INS has done something right. I have my fingers crossed over the trial which has been opened to make the AKP illegal and close it down. Most people I know here want the army to take over.

427 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:09:16am

re: #419 opnion

The Obama is such a multi tasker. He is now dispensing travel advice.
He is admonishing American tourists to Europe to, "Speak the local language."Have you noticed that his advice is always a slap on the wrist?"


Speak the local language? Obummer barely speaks English.

428 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:10:54am

More on Obama & language. He said that it is embarrasing that they (Europeans) come over here & speak English, French & German & we go over there & well you know.
I'll bet that our foreign language challenges does not make Michelle proud.
Should it be surprising that French speak French & Germans speak German? A...hole!

429 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:13:30am

Well work has gone to H-E-double hockey sticks as bloody usual. Time for me to get to work and try to sort out the usual mess dumped in my lap. Later all.

430 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:13:45am

re: #425 little blessing

Would that be Arabic?

/Is he multi-lingual?

He is at least Bi lingual. He speaks the Native language of Indonesia..
Now that I think of it , he can also recite the Arabic call to prayer in a flawless accent.
Shouldn't he encourage people in the U.S to learn English?

431 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:16:03am

in europa there is econ benifit to know the lang of the guys on the other side of the hill. and if you are french you might want to understand the german your overlords speak to you in.

In America there is econ. benifit in knowing how to speak both english and spanish so don't be suprised if english speakers learn spanish. can't really see any econ benifit to speaking french.

432 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:18:56am

re: #431 yochanan

in europa there is econ benifit to know the lang of the guys on the other side of the hill. and if you are french you might want to understand the german your overlords speak to you in.

In America there is econ. benifit in knowing how to speak both english and spanish so don't be suprised if english speakers learn spanish. can't really see any econ benifit to speaking french.

Having skills in other languages is certainly a positive.
My point is, that we embarass the Obama's. Scew those two elitist clowns.
Sox won in extra innings!

433 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:20:00am

re: #430 opnion

No, Obummer should be trilingual. He also speaks ebonics.

434 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:21:51am

re: #433 baconeatingkaffir

No, Obummer should be trilingual. He also speaks ebonics.

He tries , but every time he tries to get down he sounds like a fool.
He has no street cred, but he is fabulous at Hyde Park wine & cheese receptions.

435 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:23:00am

re: #428 opnion

obama comes out of the whole northwestern/u. of Chicago liberal elitist we are better than you Americans crowd. I am often in this crowd sometimes it is hard to hold my tongue. I remember on sept 12 2001 i got to tell off a bunch of NORTHWESTERN U. PROFS when they were all joking how AMERICA deserved SEPT 11TH. one of the reasons my fav college team changes every week during football season (any one playing against N. U.)

436 tats66  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:23:02am

wait a sec.....is that elitist prick O(s)bama saying we should speak the local langauges? Whats HIS take on the expectation that people are expected to speak english when they decide to grace our country, leagally or not? Just curious.

437 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:24:44am

re: #432 opnion

WHITE SOX had to fight like the junk yard dogs they are to win that one.

438 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:25:34am

in my opinion being a junk yard dog is a good thing.

439 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:25:57am

re: #435 yochanan

obama comes out of the whole northwestern/u. of Chicago liberal elitist we are better than you Americans crowd. I am often in this crowd sometimes it is hard to hold my tongue. I remember on sept 12 2001 i got to tell off a bunch of NORTHWESTERN U. PROFS when they were all joking how AMERICA deserved SEPT 11TH. one of the reasons my fav college team changes every week during football season (any one playing against N. U.)


I know of what you speak. Hey, good for you. Telling off those Nortwestern profs had to be really satisfying.
I would not have wanted to sleep that night, but stay up & enjoy it.

440 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:26:34am

re: #437 yochanan

WHITE SOX had to fight like the junk yard dogs they are to win that one.

Party like 05?

441 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:27:00am

Latrer Lizards. I am off.

442 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:28:19am

re: #417 CIA Reject

As memes and excuses go, that will serve them nicely, CIA...

443 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:29:00am

my son worked at one of the 05 W.S. games and all i got was a f''''' hat.

i told my one FUBS fan son, of course i want the FUBS to make it to the W.S. so we can beat them.

444 vagabond trader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:30:18am

Yeah, we're uncultured louts here in the USA, including of course, our Spanish speaking POTUS. Right Barry?

445 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:33:15am

Good morning all!

446 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:33:22am

Iranian missile test? Does ShortShit want to get blow to smithereens?

447 committed  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:35:08am

Good morning, lizards. What's your take on Obama's latest comment?

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Democrat Barack Obama took issue Monday with President Bush's decision to attend the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games, saying he would go to Beijing only if he saw progress between the Chinese government and the Dalai Lama.
"In the absence of some sense of progress, in the absence of some sense from the Dalai Lama that there was progress, I would not have gone," the presidential candidate told reporters at a news conference.

Obama previously has called on the Republican president to boycott the ceremonies.

Bush said last week that he will attend opening ceremonies for the games in Beijing next month. Some world leaders plan to boycott the event because of China's human rights record and its handling of unrest in Tibet.

Chinese officials met last week with two envoys sent to Beijing by the Dalai Lama from his exile base in India.

448 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:35:12am

and if the FUBS make it to the W.S. and the CHICAGO WHITE SOX don't unlike some FUBS fans i will not be rooting for the other team even though if the FUBS do win it living with them will be next to impossible.

449 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:36:37am

re: #446 MandyManners

DON'T STEP IN THE SHORT SHIT.

450 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:38:04am

I got an email today, from a friend, called:
"The moment just before the pain starts!"

and you scroll down through a series of pix:

-guy on skateboard, about to smash
-guy gored in leg by bull, seriously deep
-guy about to go over top of fast motorcycle losing front wheel
-guy separated from mountain bike, 3 meters in the air
-Barack speaking before the White House...

451 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:40:13am

re: #449 yochanan

DON'T STEP IN THE SHORT SHIT.

Yes, I've heard it's hard to get it out of the tread of my shoes.

452 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:40:36am

re: #447 committed

It's a cheap shot.

453 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:43:22am

re: #452 MandyManners

Second that. Cheap shot for political points.

/going home. Back as K

454 committed  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:46:47am

re: #452 MandyManners

It's a cheap shot.

I agree. And coming from the man who said he would sit down with Iran unconditionally, it speaks volumes.

Reverse physcology could be used to handle this guy. Kinda like telling the kid who doesn't want to eat his carrots. You forbid him to eat his carrots and he is more tempted to actually eat them.

455 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:51:26am

re: #454 committed

I agree. And coming from the man who said he would sit down with Iran unconditionally, it speaks volumes.

It's some kind of flip-flop.

456 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:52:08am

Good Morning Lizards.

Well, Pelosi clearly has no understanding of economics.

Pelosi Asks Bush to Draw From Petroleum Reserve to Combat Surge in Oil Prices

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked President Bush on Tuesday to draw down a portion of the country's Strategic Petroleum Reserve as a way to reduce crude prices and help motorists who are suffering from the rising cost of gasoline.

Here is her specific request:

"The severe energy price crisis facing millions of Americans compels strong presidential action to assist consumers and strengthen the economy," Pelosi said in her letter, which asked Bush to "draw down a small portion" of the country's oil reserve.

Simply put, this so called "solution" will do absolutely nothing to improve the oil price situation. The existing high oil prices are due to rising demand and very slow to increase supplies. Therefore, taking some portion of an existing supply out of storage and releasing to the market does absolutely nothing to change the sustainable supply of oil or the demand for fuel. Even if the President did this, then what? Release more next month?

If you want to see prices drop, then ongoing supply needs to increase or demand needs to drop.

Thinking that Pelosi's request will work is like thinking that if you are broke, out of work, and losing your house that finding $5 in a coat pocket will appreciably improve your situation.

I see this request by Pelosi as nothing more than political posturing. While I'm not surprised by it in the least, it does not bode well for seeing any real improvement in the situation coming from Congress in the forseeable future.

The solution will come from the market, as usual.

457 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:52:08am

re: #447 committed

Good morning, lizards. What's your take on Obama's latest comment?

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Democrat Barack Obama took issue Monday with President Bush's decision to attend the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games, saying he would go to Beijing only if he saw progress between the Chinese government and the Dalai Lama.
"In the absence of some sense of progress, in the absence of some sense from the Dalai Lama that there was progress, I would not have gone," the presidential candidate told reporters at a news conference.

Obama previously has called on the Republican president to boycott the ceremonies.

Bush said last week that he will attend opening ceremonies for the games in Beijing next month. Some world leaders plan to boycott the event because of China's human rights record and its handling of unrest in Tibet.

Chinese officials met last week with two envoys sent to Beijing by the Dalai Lama from his exile base in India.

Well, it's patent horseshit, unless BO somehow wants to explain to his base that Iran, Venezuela, North Korea are good and worth speaking with, meanwhile China is bad and not even worth visiting, much less speaking with.

I happen to agree with the words that he has spoken, but coming from him, it's a lie.

458 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:53:22am

re: #420 yochanan

..l., to any moonbats, trolls, or moby's out there the rest of you

;-)

Ooh! Ooh! Mister Kot-tahhh! I am reliably informed that I am a moby AND a troll!

459 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:54:11am

re: #448 yochanan

and if the FUBS make it to the W.S. and the CHICAGO WHITE SOX don't unlike some FUBS fans i will not be rooting for the other team even though if the FUBS do win it living with them will be next to impossible.


As a White Sox fan, I absolutely hope that the Cubs win the World Series if my team can't.

How did you like the trade with the A's? The pitcher the Cubs got has a history of arm trouble.

460 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:56:24am

re: #456 3 wood

Thinking that Pelosi's request will work is like thinking that if you are broke, out of work, and losing your house that finding $5 in a coat pocket will appreciably improve your situation.

Especially when you have been turning your nose up at job offers for the last thirty years, insisting that "even if I started work tomorrow, we won't see any economic benefit for a decade or more".

461 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:58:24am

re: #454 committed

I agree. And coming from the man who said he would sit down with Iran unconditionally, it speaks volumes.

Reverse physcology could be used to handle this guy. Kinda like telling the kid who doesn't want to eat his carrots. You forbid him to eat his carrots and he is more tempted to actually eat them.

Well, sort of. The only thing that these flopped position have in common is that they are the opposite of what President Bush says.

Therefore, some criticism is in line for the President, who really should tell China to go shit in their little red hats.

462 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:00:45am

re: #460 MajorPribluda

Especially when you have been turning your nose up at job offers for the last thirty years, insisting that "even if I started work tomorrow, we won't see any economic benefit for a decade or more".

I saw a commercial from T. Boone Pickens on Fox a few minute ago in which he stated that the only way out of the situation is to go with wind and solar power, and that the next president and congress must pursue that course. What's up with him? Has he gone over to the BHO side?

463 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:02:01am

re: #462 MandyManners

I saw a commercial from T. Boone Pickens on Fox a few minute ago in which he stated that the only way out of the situation is to go with wind and solar power, and that the next president and congress must pursue that course. What's up with him? Has he gone over to the BHO side?

No clue. Maybe he has gone the way of Ted Turner--so far off the left's deep end that Wolf Blitzer had to drag him back to the mainstream.

464 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:04:48am

Well I'm sure that Israel feels real safe with all the talking with Iran today. The mad mullahs just tested a missle that'll reach Israel and Turkey. BTW, Mornin' all.

465 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:05:45am

Good morning. Lizards!

466 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:06:33am

re: #465 goddessoftheclassroom
Well, it is morning, don't know how good it is yet! :)

467 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:08:35am

re: #466 pingjockey

Well, it is morning, don't know how good it is yet! :)

Let us hope it is a prediction if not an observation!

468 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:09:07am

I bring up LGF and there's Shakespeare summing up the history of my dating life...

469 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:09:38am

re: #467 goddessoftheclassroom
Oh yes I was just being silly. Not awake yet, need more coffee!

470 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:10:34am

re: #464 pingjockey

I don't know if Iran would actually hit Turkey with this AKP islamist agenda government in power. I recently saw on the news that the Turkish army is sharing intel. with Iran in order to solve the PKK problem. Wonder what else they're doing with Iran. On another note, just heard that 2 of the shooters killed at the consulate here had Syrian passports on them. Surprise! (NOT!)

471 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:10:48am

re: #460 MajorPribluda

Especially when you have been turning your nose up at job offers for the last thirty years, insisting that "even if I started work tomorrow, we won't see any economic benefit for a decade or more".

In economic terms, 10 years passes very quickly. I disagree with those who say that we can't "drill our way out of this." Of course we can, there are billions and billions of proved supplies out there if we only will allow the drilling.

It kind of reminds me of a conversation I had with a good friend many years ago when I was thinking of going to grad school. I was worried about how old I would be when i was done. I said that the problem was it would take me about 5 years to do the degree program and I would be about 31 then. He said "So, how old will you be in 5 years if you don't go to grad school? Do you want to be 31 with the extra degree or 31 without it?"

Really, it's just a matter of how high up the money tree that we want to chase ourselves before we allow more drilling and refining. Is $4 a gallon high enough? $5? How about $10 a gallon? How high do we need it to go before we wake up?

472 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:11:50am

re: #470 baconeatingkaffir
Me neither, just meant the range. Pardon my ignorance, but which consulate and where?

473 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:12:09am

re: #459 3 wood

As a White Sox fan, I absolutely hope that the Cubs win the World Series if my team can't.

How did you like the trade with the A's? The pitcher the Cubs got has a history of arm trouble.


As a White Sox fan , I do want the Cubs to win the pennant.
Then I want the Sox to sweep em.
The Cubs have no curse. No goat, no black cat & new Hewitt actuary.
There is only Cubishness.

474 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:12:46am

re: #470 baconeatingkaffir

What about the two generals who were arrested earlier this week for allegedly plotting to overthrow the Islamist government?

475 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:13:04am

re: #465 goddessoftheclassroom

Hiya', gotc!

476 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:14:15am

re: #472 pingjockey

Me neither, just meant the range. Pardon my ignorance, but which consulate and where?

Ours, Turkey.

Gorgeous Towercam this morning Ojoe!

477 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:15:25am

re: #472 pingjockey

The US consulate in Istanbul was shot at today by like 4 long haired bearded men. No US citizens or consulate staff were injured but some cops and security folks were killed and one of the shooters got away in a van. I'm surprise that they got close enough to the place because it's on a hill and built like something out of Guns of the Navarone.

478 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:15:57am

re: #476 infidelia
When the hell did that happen? Granted, this last weekend was a blur of bar b q, mass quantities of kids in the pool, in my fridge, etc..

479 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:17:02am

re: #474 MandyManners

Mandy, those retired generals were hardliners when they were active duty. This Ergenekon investigation (if you can call it that) has been going on for over a year now with various retired military people, authors, businessmen etc. being arrested. Most people see it as the AKP party settling old scores and taking down anyone they see as a threat. Most of those arrested have no idea what they're being charged for. Man ,this place needs another Ataturk!

480 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:17:05am

re: #477 baconeatingkaffir
Hmmmm...FNC didn't see fit to lead the top of the hour news with that little tid bit.

481 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:17:07am

QUITO, Ecuador - Ecuador's government seized three television stations and 195 businesses on Tuesday to collect debts stemming from a bank failure in the 1990s. The economy minister resigned just hours before the takeover.

In raids backed by dozens of police, Ecuador's state banking agency took over TC Television, TC Noticias and Gamavision stations, along with dozens of insurance, construction and real estate businesses owned outright or in part by Quito's Isaias family.

Isaias brothers William and Roberto, both bankers, are now facing embezzlement charges linked to the 1998 collapse of Filanbanco, once one of Ecuador's biggest banks.

SNIP

Ecuador Economy Minister Fausto Ortiz resigned immediately before the takeover and was replaced by state banking agency head Wilma Salgado, who suggested Tuesday that Ecuador may not continue paying its sovereign debt.

"We're interested in paying our social debts and not submitting the population to the dictatorship of international financial markets," she said.

Ortiz could not be reached for comment, but TC Television's vice president for news, Jose Toledo, said he had resigned because he opposed the takeovers.

SNIP

482 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:17:43am

So Iran now has the missles, anybody want to start a pool for the date something goes boom?

483 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:18:12am

re: #474 MandyManners

What about the two generals who were arrested earlier this week for allegedly plotting to overthrow the Islamist government?

The Turkish Military is committed to a Secular State. It's not over.

484 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:19:10am

re: #473 opnion

The Cubs have no curse. No goat, no black cat & new Hewitt actuary.
There is only Cubishness.

I see it as an organization that is historically bad at evaluating an developing talent. Name me the last good 3rd baseman they drafted and developed. You know who that was? Ron Santo, back in the early 60's. Last good shortstop they drafted and developed? Kessinger, same era. 2nd base? Beckert, same era.

I saw Eric Patterson (traded away yesterday) palying at A ball near here in Peoria two years ago and figured that he was too talented to stay with the Cubs for long. Had a quick bat, could hit the curve, good speed on the bases, just needed to learn the strike zone, how to bunt, and how to play defense.

Yesterday they traded him.

485 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:19:58am

re: #482 infidelia
Not until they can fit a warhead that is either chemical, biological, or nuke to it. Right now the payload is one ton. Which will make a big bang but isn't that devasting in the big scheme of things.

486 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:20:41am

Good Morning Lizards.

I would love to get your opinion on a new law passed in CT (signed by our republican governor) that will require parents to take a 2 hour course on teen driving laws before their children are allowed to take the driving test.

null

Still waiting for more details.

487 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:20:48am

re: #475 MandyManners

Hiya', gotc!

{MandyManners}!

How is The Kid doing with his contact lens?

488 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:20:55am

re: #479 baconeatingkaffir

Mandy, those retired generals were hardliners when they were active duty. This Ergenekon investigation (if you can call it that) has been going on for over a year now with various retired military people, authors, businessmen etc. being arrested. Most people see it as the AKP party settling old scores and taking down anyone they see as a threat. Most of those arrested have no idea what they're being charged for. Man ,this place needs another Ataturk!

No specific charges?

489 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:22:10am

re: #486 Ford_Prefect
Well, I do know I had to go look up the new driving laws for teens here in WA. state, just to make sure my 16 year old wasn't driving illegally.

490 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:22:50am

re: #487 goddessoftheclassroom

{MandyManners}!

How is The Kid doing with his contact lens?

He's handling it better. I hope to have him 100 per cent with it by the time school starts in six weeks or so.

491 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:22:52am

re: #488 MandyManners

Some have been accused of a plot to overthrow the government. Others are just sitting waiting to be charged. I am waiting for the US to say something about this but I guess it won't happen. Congoleeza Rice seems to think Erdogan is a legitimate democractic kind of guy. However on the bright side, Fetullah Gulen has to leave the US now, having been turned down for a green card!

492 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:24:48am

re: #486 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards.

I would love to get your opinion on a new law passed in CT (signed by our republican governor) that will require parents to take a 2 hour course on teen driving laws before their children are allowed to take the driving test.

null

Still waiting for more details.

I think there should be a test a parent could take to be exempt from the 2-hour class, but I don't get the correlation: a responsible parent might have a boneheaded kid, and vice versa. I don't like more government interference.

493 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:24:50am

re: #484 3 wood

I see it as an organization that is historically bad at evaluating an developing talent. Name me the last good 3rd baseman they drafted and developed. You know who that was? Ron Santa, back in the early 60's. Last good shortstop they drafted and developed? Kessinger, same era. 2nd base? Beckert, same era.

I saw Eric Patterson (traded away yesterday) palying at A ball near here in Peoria two years ago and figured that he was too talented to stay with the Cubs for long. Had a quick bat, could hit the curve, good speed on the bases, just needed to learn the strike zone, how to bunt, and how to play defense.

Yesterday they traded him.

Part of the Cubs problem is also their good fortune.
They do not have to put a good product on the field, you know, lovable losers.
People go to Wrigley to party & a baseball game breaks out.
That does not make the bad, but it is pretty clear that Sox fans are more serious & knowledgeable about the game.

494 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:25:29am

re: #486 Ford_Prefect

Good Morning Lizards.

I would love to get your opinion on a new law passed in CT (signed by our republican governor) that will require parents to take a 2 hour course on teen driving laws before their children are allowed to take the driving test.

null

Still waiting for more details.

I guess that I like it. It reinforces the fact that the responsibility for minor children and their actions lies with parents.

495 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:25:47am

Good morning Lizards...........Morning ping... ((Goddess))

496 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:25:52am

re: #491 baconeatingkaffir

Some have been accused of a plot to overthrow the government. Others are just sitting waiting to be charged. I am waiting for the US to say something about this but I guess it won't happen. Congoleeza Rice seems to think Erdogan is a legitimate democractic kind of guy. However on the bright side, Fetullah Gulen has to leave the US now, having been turned down for a green card!

Is he that theologian?

497 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:27:24am

re: #492 goddessoftheclassroom

I think there should be a test a parent could take to be exempt from the 2-hour class, but I don't get the correlation: a responsible parent might have a boneheaded kid, and vice versa. I don't like more government interference.

That was basically my take. I can almost understand some sort of class for parents that want to teach their own kids to drive instead of using drivers ed, but requiring parents to sit through a 2 hour course just so the kid can take the test seems ridiculous. And besides, how much is this going to cost the taxpayers?

498 rightside  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:27:25am

Morning Lizards!

499 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:27:31am

re: #495 doriangrey
Mornin' DG. Get that part yet?

500 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:27:53am

re: #496 MandyManners
Yeah, the freaky engineer turned theologian who managed to buy honorary degrees and audiences with various religious and political figures.

501 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:28:06am

re: #492 goddessoftheclassroom

I think there should be a test a parent could take to be exempt from the 2-hour class, but I don't get the correlation: a responsible parent might have a boneheaded kid, and vice versa. I don't like more government interference.

I'd like to see a one-hour course for the teens and the parents together in which both have it hammered home that the parents are responsible for their kids' actions in the car.

502 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:28:20am

re: #498 rightside
Whassup? As my 14 yr old says.

503 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:28:25am

re: #493 opnion

Part of the Cubs problem is also their good fortune.
They do not have to put a good product on the field, you know, lovable losers.
People go to Wrigley to party & a baseball game breaks out.
That does not make the bad, but it is pretty clear that Sox fans are more serious & knowledgeable about the game.

Hmmm, so what you are saying is that Sox fans are anal pricks, and Cubs fans know how to have a really good time...

504 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:28:39am

re: #500 baconeatingkaffir

Yeah, the freaky engineer turned theologian who managed to buy honorary degrees and audiences with various religious and political figures.

What's his stance on ID?

505 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:28:58am

re: #494 MajorPribluda

I guess that I like it. It reinforces the fact that the responsibility for minor children and their actions lies with parents.

I see your point, but couldn't that be done with a small pamphlet that the parents could be given and then sign something stating that they read and understood it?

506 Macker  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:29:01am

Good Morning Lizards! In case you missed it...

Fear The Football: CAIR Want Ad

507 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:29:19am

re: #504 MandyManners
Mandy, it is too damn early! :)

508 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:29:56am

re: #498 rightside

Morning Lizards!

Morning rightside...

re: #499 pingjockey

Mornin' DG. Get that part yet?

Not yet, but I did get an e-mail saying that it has shipped and should be here any day now...

509 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:29:56am

re: #501 MandyManners

Again, though, how much would that cost?

510 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:30:13am

Good morning, Lizards! Dang, I am up early today. Is getting up at dawn a manifestation of maturity? Or just a lack of inertia?
Watched 2 episodes of "John Adams" on DVD last night before turning in.
It seems to be outstanding. But I keep getting flashes in my head of Paul Giamatti in "Sideways". I'll get over it.

511 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:30:13am

Fair thee well, Bright Lizards!

512 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:31:00am

re: #492 goddessoftheclassroom

I think there should be a test a parent could take to be exempt from the 2-hour class, but I don't get the correlation: a responsible parent might have a boneheaded kid, and vice versa. I don't like more government interference.

I view it like co-signing for a credit card. The minor's has training wheels, as it were, but the parent's card gets dinged in case of disaster. This is a market-tested reasonable system of behavior management, done solely through financial incentives and after all, the child doesn't *need* a credit card any more than he needs a license.

I feel that in the pedestrian, City Hall and license sense of the term, children don't have rights--parents have rights, and they have responsibilities to their children, in lieu of children's rights.

513 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:31:06am

re: #508 doriangrey
"The check is in the mail".

514 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:31:10am

re: #486 Ford_Prefect

I can see informing parents of their legal liability if their little dears under 18 get behind the wheel and hurt someone. I think quite a few parents out there do not realize that liability and thus don't care a whole lot what happens until it's too late.

One of the bigger risks I see out there are people on cell phones behind the wheel.

A few years ago I got hit on my bike by a very young driver. She blew a stop sign and took me out, I ended up on her windshield. 16 year old girl who never got off her cell phone the whole time.

Luckily I only had a few bumps and my bike was okay.

515 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:31:26am

re: #510 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! Dang, I am up early today. Is getting up at dawn a manifestation of maturity? Or just a lack of inertia?
Watched 2 episodes of "John Adams" on DVD last night before turning in.
It seems to be outstanding. But I keep getting flashes in my head of Paul Giamatti in "Sideways". I'll get over it.

It's a sign that you're getting old and crotchety.... ;P

516 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:31:50am

re: #495 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards...........Morning ping... ((Goddess))

{doriangrey}!

517 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:32:23am

re: #505 Ford_Prefect

I see your point, but couldn't that be done with a small pamphlet that the parents could be given and then sign something stating that they read and understood it?

Fair enough. Some people read things without signing them, but they may expect to pay whatever price is asked in that case, and well deserve to.

518 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:32:25am

re: #516 goddessoftheclassroom
Morning to you also.

519 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:32:33am

re: #515 doriangrey

It's a sign that you're getting old and crotchety.... ;P

I refer to it as my extended warranty period.

520 rightside  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:32:34am

Morning dorian, ping, goddess, et. al.

Ping, I always get "my bad" from my 17yo.

My reply, "your bad what?"

521 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:32:47am

re: #512 MajorPribluda

I view it like co-signing for a credit card. The minor's has training wheels, as it were, but the parent's card gets dinged in case of disaster. This is a market-tested reasonable system of behavior management, done solely through financial incentives and after all, the child doesn't *need* a credit card any more than he needs a license.

I feel that in the pedestrian, City Hall and license sense of the term, children don't have rights--parents have rights, and they have responsibilities to their children, in lieu of children's rights.

Good point. I also liked the idea of making the teen be there, too.

522 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:32:53am

re: #503 doriangrey

Hmmm, so what you are saying is that Sox fans are anal pricks, and Cubs fans know how to have a really good time...

Actually no. Sox fans party, but realise that the place is not an open air beer garden. It is baseball.
It is not to early to order Christmas gifts for tha Cub fans in your life, Cub logo pocket protectors & cell phone holsters.

523 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:33:10am

re: #507 pingjockey

Mandy, it is too damn early! :)

I was just trying to remember the Muslims who are sharing with the IDer's here.

524 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:33:36am

re: #509 Ford_Prefect

Again, though, how much would that cost?

Make the parents pay for it.

525 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:33:55am

re: #512 MajorPribluda

The credit card company doesn't make you go through a course though. You just read the liability rules and then sign off.

526 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:34:47am

re: #520 rightside
Yep, I don't speak new teen. Plus I went out and bought about 3 belts so the little shit and his 16 year old bro couldn't claim "we can't find a belt" when they have their pants hanging off their asses. That is my biggest peeve with hip hop.

527 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:35:14am

re: #520 rightside

Morning dorian, ping, goddess, et. al.

Ping, I always get "my bad" from my 17yo.

My reply, "your bad what?"

Has he started quoting Stewie from Family Guy? I get "Darn you, vile woman!" (they know they'd better bowdlerize that first word).

528 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:35:45am

re: #523 MandyManners
WHAT? Are you serious? Madness.

529 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:36:14am

I think the CT law for teens is OK. Young drivers need to appreciate the responsibility that comes with driving.
Some of you may recall that I attended a triple funeral earlier this year. It was not a teen driver, but a 21 year old. The deaths entirely preventable. From what I read it is something on the scale of a national epidemic.

530 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:36:17am

re: #524 MandyManners

Make the parents pay for it.

That is still another tax. You already have to pay for the whole licensing process as it is.

531 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:36:31am

re: #526 pingjockey

Yep, I don't speak new teen. Plus I went out and bought about 3 belts so the little shit and his 16 year old bro couldn't claim "we can't find a belt" when they have their pants hanging off their asses. That is my biggest peeve with hip hop.

I tell my students, "Hitch your britches." It's become a kind of catch phrase--they now say it to each other.

532 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:37:11am

re: #510 rawmuse

Good morning, Lizards! Dang, I am up early today. Is getting up at dawn a manifestation of maturity? Or just a lack of inertia?
Watched 2 episodes of "John Adams" on DVD last night before turning in.
It seems to be outstanding. But I keep getting flashes in my head of Paul Giamatti in "Sideways". I'll get over it.

Did you dream about it? I'm trying to figure out a dream I had this morning after going to bed listening to the WeatherChannel's weatherscan channel. (Love the music.) Anyway, I dreamed I was a partner with Evan Hunt and we were escaping a pretty omniscient set of bad guys. It was a very elaborate dream.

533 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:37:12am

re: #504 MandyManners

What's his stance on ID?

I guess we'll never know, since he can't get a green-card! ;)

LOL

534 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:37:18am

re: #527 goddessoftheclassroom
The 8 yr old likes Jeff Dunham. The puppet guy. Ran around for days doing the achmed the dead terrorist knock knock joke!

535 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:37:20am

re: #522 opnion

Actually no. Sox fans party, but realise that the place is not an open air beer garden. It is baseball.
It is not to early to order Christmas gifts for tha Cub fans in your life, Cub logo pocket protectors & cell phone holsters.

News flash...................................The game of baseball was invented for the sole purpose of giving the American working class an excuse to drink beer in public. The whole absurd notion of paying attention to stats didn't come alone for another 40 years. The cubs fans got it right, it isnt and never was intended to be about the game itself or the players, but about socializing and having a really good time regardless of who won or loss.

536 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:37:25am

re: #493 opnion

People go to Wrigley to party & a baseball game breaks out.
That does not make the bad, but it is pretty clear that Sox fans are more serious & knowledgeable about the game.

I asm convinced that you could put 9 trained monkeys in cubs uniforms, throw them out on the field and Wrigley Field would draw 36,000 to drink beer.

I've sat in the bleachers and been the only one there actually paying attention to the game. There were guys hitting on girls, girls hitting on guys, girls hitting on girls, guys hitting on guys, and none of them even knew what was going on in the game. It was like one big meat market put there.

537 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:37:46am

Good Morning Lizards!

/mmmm.coffee..

538 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:38:26am

re: #531 goddessoftheclassroom
Hah! I'm surprised you didn't have to explain what "britches" are.

539 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:38:48am

re: #532 MandyManners

Most of my dreams involve surfing. and not on the web.

540 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:38:55am

Isn't there a town somewhere in the midwest where saggy bluejeans are illegal and a repeat offender can be sentenced to jail time? I kind of like that idea. I get tired of seeing underwear as outerwear. I had to give two of my troops article 15s for that ages ago for "saggin" in uniform. Where the hell did this ignorant fad come from?

541 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:39:13am

re: #534 pingjockey

The 8 yr old likes Jeff Dunham. The puppet guy. Ran around for days doing the achmed the dead terrorist knock knock joke!

Heh heh heh I really love Achmed the dead terrorist...

542 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:39:40am

re: #535 doriangrey

News flash................................... The game of baseball was invented for the sole purpose of giving the American working class an excuse to drink beer in public. The whole absurd notion of paying attention to stats didn't come alone for another 40 years. The cubs fans got it right, it isnt and never was intended to be about the game itself or the players, but about socializing and having a really good time regardless of who won or loss.

Well , thak you for the news flash. So the Cub games are like ice fishing, a reason to drink. Why not just go to a bar & forget the pretense of baseball?

543 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:40:38am

re: #540 baconeatingkaffir
You had troops with baggy pants? That is wrong, did you show them the error of their ways? The uniform is not for personel adornment/changes.

544 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:40:50am

re: #522 opnion


It is not to early to order Christmas gifts for tha Cub fans in your life, Cub logo pocket protectors & cell phone holsters.

I get them a reproduction of the White Sox World Series Championship trophy so they know what one looks like.

545 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:41:07am

re: #541 doriangrey
I like all dead terrorists.

546 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:41:21am

re: #540 baconeatingkaffir

Isn't there a town somewhere in the midwest where saggy bluejeans are illegal and a repeat offender can be sentenced to jail time? I kind of like that idea. I get tired of seeing underwear as outerwear. I had to give two of my troops article 15s for that ages ago for "saggin" in uniform. Where the hell did this ignorant fad come from?

Hip hop brought it out of the US prison system where wearing ones pants low like that is a request for homosexual sex.

547 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:41:30am

re: #529 rawmuse

I don't know. Maybe I am over-reacting to the whole thing. That is why I was looking your opinions. I just don't like more and more regulation.

548 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:41:36am

re: #534 pingjockey

The 8 yr old likes Jeff Dunham. The puppet guy. Ran around for days doing the achmed the dead terrorist knock knock joke!

Please relate for those of us who have not yet heard the ahmed the dead terrorist knock knock joke because I want to use it at work...

549 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:42:01am

re: #521 goddessoftheclassroom

Good point. I also liked the idea of making the teen be there, too.

I don't know how many teens actually understand that they're parents will be on the hook for things like deductibles and the like.

I'll be getting The Kid a car when he turns 16 but, he'll reimburse me for insurance, gas and maintenance. Maybe he'll make the connection between speed and money.

550 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:42:03am

re: #543 pingjockey

Yeah back in '94 they were fresh out of basic training too. I don't know what the heck they were training those kids. BDU's are baggy to begin with but when they start wearing them down around their midriffs with their bdu tops over thinking I wouldn't notice.. they had another thing coming. I about pissed my pants when our first shirt caught a youngun with no laces in his boots. *sheesh*

551 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:42:35am

re: #548 infidelia
Knock knock
who's there?
Achmed
achmed who?
I keeel you!

552 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:42:37am

re: #544 3 wood

I get them a reproduction of the White Sox World Series Championship trophy so they know what one looks like.

Oh,that is beautful my friend.

553 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:42:47am

re: #526 pingjockey

Yep, I don't speak new teen. Plus I went out and bought about 3 belts so the little shit and his 16 year old bro couldn't claim "we can't find a belt" when they have their pants hanging off their asses. That is my biggest peeve with hip hop.

You're the meanest dad in the world!

554 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:42:57am

re: #545 pingjockey

I like all dead terrorists.

Here ya go 400 gone.

555 rightside  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:43:10am

re: #527 goddessoftheclassroom


LOL, not yet. I still give him hell about ending a sentence in a preposition, dangling participles, sentence fragments, etc. Drives him crazier than his "my bad" does me! :^)

556 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:43:25am

re: #549 MandyManners

I don't know how many teens actually understand that they're parents will be on the hook for things like deductibles and the like.

Don't understand or don't care.

557 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:43:33am

re: #528 pingjockey

WHAT? Are you serious? Madness.

Yes, I'm serious. Check out the most recent ID threads.

558 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:43:43am

re: #550 baconeatingkaffir
Can't do that stunt with navy dungarees. Gotta tuck your shirt in.

559 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:44:23am

re: #552 opnion

Oh,that is beautful my friend.

It's the thought that counts.

560 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:44:38am

re: #530 Ford_Prefect

That is still another tax. You already have to pay for the whole licensing process as it is.

If it cuts down on speed and teen deaths, it's worth it. Driving is a privilege and you have to pay for that privilege.

561 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:44:41am

re: #553 MandyManners
So I have been told. I will wear the title with honor.

562 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:45:07am

re: #530 Ford_Prefect

Sorry for coming across as a hard-ass. I don't have enough blood in my caffeine stream yet.

563 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:46:01am

re: #558 pingjockey

I just wonder where the hell they got the idea they could do that in the first place. I'm sure somewhere the hip-hop soul brutha recruiter put the idea in their heads or something. This new generation is something else. My 21 year old daughter came back from her last sojourn in China with 3 tattoos and a metal chunk in her lip. I wasn't amused. Still, I let her make her own mistakes and regret them later.

564 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:46:16am

re: #557 MandyManners
There were islamist sympathizers on the thread agreeing with the IDers? All I caught was that the level of personal invective had gone through the roof!

565 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:46:25am

re: #533 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I guess we'll never know, since he can't get a green-card! ;)

LOL

Others can.

566 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:46:28am

re: #551 pingjockey

Knock knock
who's there?
Achmed
achmed who?
I keeel you!

Whoops, can't use that one on the customers. Thanks anyway.

567 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:46:41am

re: #557 MandyManners

Yes, I'm serious. Check out the most recent ID threads.


WWhhhaaaattt? There are ID threads at LGF's?
good morning Mandy

568 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:46:54am

re: #564 pingjockey

There were islamist sympathizers on the thread agreeing with the IDers? All I caught was that the level of personal invective had gone through the roof!

No. Charles posted about the Muslims and IDer's cooperating.

569 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:47:18am

re: #563 baconeatingkaffir
Was gonna get a tatoo in Hong Kong. Didn't feel like catching Hepatitis.

570 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:47:28am

re: #523 MandyManners

I was just trying to remember the Muslims who are sharing with the IDer's here.

It was on last night's ID thread that I finally saw the real nature of what Charles is getting hit with--it's the same as "seminar callers", if you're familiar with the talk radio term.
The calls in to the radio shows and the posts here at LGF follow an easily-discernible template:
A) Defence Suppression: Innocuous-sounding introduction designed to build credibility, perhaps with a *little too much* explanation as to why the poster is not a regular. In radio, it usually goes "Now I have always been a Republican, and I love President Bush, but...", or some such thing.
B) Payload: Argument or citation of other work which runs counter to the local view, and which if unaccompanied by the Defence Suppression, would surely trigger a cascade of criticism.

It's no guarantee, and even I have posted using this rubric, when appropriate (we all do from time to time, it's a valid way of speaking, of course), but when it's the same POV on the same topic, and concentrated in a timeframe, it's a good indicator that you are in the midst of a seminar attack.

571 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:47:54am

re: #539 rawmuse

Most of my dreams involve surfing. and not on the web.

I've never dreamed about Tom Cruise before. Well, it wasn't about him. It was about Evan Hunt. No helicopters and chunnels, though.

572 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:48:42am

re: #534 pingjockey

The 8 yr old likes Jeff Dunham. The puppet guy. Ran around for days doing the achmed the dead terrorist knock knock joke!

I don't know it. Give us a clue?

573 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:48:44am

re: #566 infidelia
Can't think of one for the customers, sorry. He has an old dude puppet who want to be a greeter at Wal-Mart.
Welcome to Wal -Mart. Get yer shit and get out!

574 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:48:47am

re: #540 baconeatingkaffir

Isn't there a town somewhere in the midwest where saggy bluejeans are illegal and a repeat offender can be sentenced to jail time? I kind of like that idea. I get tired of seeing underwear as outerwear. I had to give two of my troops article 15s for that ages ago for "saggin" in uniform. Where the hell did this ignorant fad come from?

Gang-bangers in prison. You don't have belts in prison so, your pants sag.

575 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:48:53am

re: #571 MandyManners

But, who dreams of Mandy?

576 ciaospirit  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:49:02am

Anybody heard from BenZacharia lately?

577 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:49:21am

re: #575 rawmuse

But, who dreams of Mandy?

Barry Manilow?

578 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:49:22am

I almost had one done in the UAE but decided against it. I'm glad because it would suck teaching and having something a flipped out 20 year old thought up on my body. On the other hand, I do remember several guys being stupid and getting the barcodes off of various things (pepsi cans, porno mags etc. ) tattooed on them . My smallest daughter (11 going on 25) has gotten into the temporary tattoo craze. Some she buys and uses water to put on and the others she has done by a guy with a brush and henna. :)

579 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:49:42am

re: #542 opnion

Well , thak you for the news flash. So the Cub games are like ice fishing, a reason to drink. Why not just go to a bar & forget the pretense of baseball?

Why do anything at all? Why should anyone not playing give a flying crap about any sport? If you're to lame to get out there and play yourself why bother watching someone else play? Oh yea, because we all have slightly different concepts of what exactly constitutes entertainment. Some people go to watch the game, some people go to watch the people watching the game, and some people go to watch the people watching the people watching the game.

How anyone could possibly be so fucking anal as to be offended that someone might go to a game and not watch the game is totally beyond me. Who gives a crap why they are there. Unless you are actually playing the game you're just a spectator, how or why you choose to specatate is your business not some anal pricks. If Cubs fans choose to go to the game and have a really good time regardless of who win, then it sounds like the Cubs fans are the real winners and anyone offended by their behavior is the real looser.

580 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:49:47am

re: #577 Ford_Prefect

"You came and you gave without taking..."

581 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:49:56am

re: #556 Ford_Prefect

Don't understand or don't care.

I did after I got popped for doing 79 in a 30 zone.

582 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:50:05am

re: #572 MajorPribluda
see my 566. Also should be on You Tube.

583 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:50:37am
584 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:51:40am

re: #538 pingjockey

Hah! I'm surprised you didn't have to explain what "britches" are.

This is the magic of how kids learn language. Even if you somehow have a child who, it is guaranteed, has never heard the term hitch or britches, you can deliver the line while glowering at the incipient plumber's smile*, and suddenly they will know the exact meaning of the words, and the rapidity implied.

*If you can't actually see crack yet, is it just a plumber's smirk?

585 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:51:56am

re: #580 rawmuse

"You came and you gave without taking..."

/Can't get song out of my head..Help me!

586 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:52:17am

re: #581 MandyManners

I did after I got popped for doing 79 in a 30 zone.

OOPS!

587 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:52:17am

re: #570 MajorPribluda

It was on last night's ID thread that I finally saw the real nature of what Charles is getting hit with--it's the same as "seminar callers", if you're familiar with the talk radio term.
The calls in to the radio shows and the posts here at LGF follow an easily-discernible template:
A) Defence Suppression: Innocuous-sounding introduction designed to build credibility, perhaps with a *little too much* explanation as to why the poster is not a regular. In radio, it usually goes "Now I have always been a Republican, and I love President Bush, but...", or some such thing.
B) Payload: Argument or citation of other work which runs counter to the local view, and which if unaccompanied by the Defence Suppression, would surely trigger a cascade of criticism.

It's no guarantee, and even I have posted using this rubric, when appropriate (we all do from time to time, it's a valid way of speaking, of course), but when it's the same POV on the same topic, and concentrated in a timeframe, it's a good indicator that you are in the midst of a seminar attack.

I've listened to maybe an hour of talk radio my entire life so, I'm not familiar with the term.

588 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:52:32am

re: #584 MajorPribluda
That is a good one!

589 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:52:38am

re: #540 baconeatingkaffir

Isn't there a town somewhere in the midwest where saggy bluejeans are illegal and a repeat offender can be sentenced to jail time? I kind of like that idea. I get tired of seeing underwear as outerwear. I had to give two of my troops article 15s for that ages ago for "saggin" in uniform. Where the hell did this ignorant fad come from?

Hoo-ah!

590 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:53:04am

re: #585 HoosierHoops

/Can't get song out of my head..Help me!

Don't forget the key change. No one does those anymore. They seem to have fallen out of favor except on Broadway.

591 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:53:19am

re: #572 MajorPribluda

I don't know it. Give us a clue?

592 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:53:50am

re: #585 HoosierHoops

/Can't get song out of my head..Help me!

Is it true he wrote that thing about a dog?

593 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:54:01am

re: #575 rawmuse

But, who dreams of Mandy?

My hamster?

594 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:54:19am

re: #577 Ford_Prefect

Barry Manilow?

LOL!

595 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:54:33am

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (73 dgrees, going up to 91 degrees; T-Storms, heavy rain and lightning predicted agains) overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this fine morning?

596 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:54:46am

re: #592 infidelia

Is it true he wrote that thing about a dog?

If anyone can answer that they know way too much about Barry Manilow.

597 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:55:00am

re: #558 pingjockey

Can't do that stunt with navy dungarees. Gotta tuck your shirt in.

Dungarees have gone the way of the dodo. Now they all look like Air Force Personnel. Or bus drivers. but I repeat myself.

598 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:55:30am

re: #595 realwest
Hey RW. Okay here in the Pacific Northwest. Clear, hot, 95 today.

599 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:55:42am

re: #589 MajorPribluda

I also like the idea of corrective custody which the AF seems to have done away with these days. There's nothing like painting rocks and raking leaves for a month under basic training conditions to make you see the error of your ways.

600 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:55:57am
601 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:56:24am
602 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:56:34am

re: #596 Ford_Prefect

If anyone can answer that they know way too much about Barry Manilow.

I was shocked to learn he was straight. How long did that last?

603 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:56:39am
604 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:56:51am

re: #597 MajorPribluda
Nope, Dungarees are working uniform. Unless they've changed to something else in the last 10 years. Which is possible. Haven't been on a navy base since '97!

605 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:56:58am

re: #595 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (73 dgrees, going up to 91 degrees; T-Storms, heavy rain and lightning predicted agains) overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this fine morning?

Good morning realwest, hope you are well this morning. Yup, looks like another tough day for the weatherman here in Insane Diego...

606 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:57:42am

re: #602 infidelia

I was shocked to learn he was straight. How long did that last?

About 15 seconds.

607 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:57:44am

re: #577 Ford_Prefect

Barry Manilow?

That was awful great!. Keep it up, you'll earn one of Mandy's patented "Asshole!" fatwas.

608 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:57:48am

re: #493 opnion

Part of the Cubs problem is also their good fortune.
They do not have to put a good product on the field, you know, lovable losers.
People go to Wrigley to party & a baseball game breaks out.
That does not make the bad, but it is pretty clear that Sox fans are more serious & knowledgeable about the game.

On Family Guy last night:

Peter takes Stewie (a baby) to a Red Sox game, but leaves him in the car by accident. Two fans walk by see Stewie panting away inside the locked car and one of them says,
"Oh my God! that baby was left in the car!"
Other one says, "Oh my God! He'll miss the game!"
They keep walking.

609 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:57:55am

re: #586 Ford_Prefect

OOPS!

Well, I didn't want to blow curfew.

610 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:58:13am
611 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:58:20am

re: #595 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (73 dgrees, going up to 91 degrees; T-Storms, heavy rain and lightning predicted agains) overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this fine morning?

{realwest} what's up? a lite rain..70 degrees in hoosierland..going upto about 90..
/ahhh the dog daze of summer..

612 kcladderman  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:58:28am

Everything you want to know about the song
[Link: www.songfacts.com...]

613 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:59:08am

re: #601 Ojoe

The rosy dawn arrives over the San Gabriel Mountains.

It is quite beautiful now.

Beautiful!

614 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:59:11am

re: #604 pingjockey

I hope that they didn't do away with those dungarees. I was kind of impressed like those. I think the navy's been using them in one form or another for over 100 years or something? I cna't remember what the navy guys we met in Egypt told us. On the other hand, the AF going to that blue digital camo crap looks stupid. It makes them look like some third world country. None of my friends still in the AF like them.

615 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:59:17am

re: #605 doriangrey

Good morning realwest, hope you are well this morning. Yup, looks like another tough day for the weatherman here in Insane Diego...

Northeast hot, humid, 90s, 5 pm thunderstorm. Our harbor 80s with a shore breeze I had to wrap up in the beach towel yesterday.

616 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:00:21am

re: #609 MandyManners

Well, I didn't want to blow curfew.

Is that what we can look forward to now? 16 and 17 year olds driving like crazy from 10:30 to 11:00.

617 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:00:32am

re: #614 baconeatingkaffir
For a while the navy did away with the bell bottom dress blues. We got those back in 1981.

618 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:00:38am
619 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:00:39am

re: #607 MajorPribluda

That was awful great!. Keep it up, you'll earn one of Mandy's patented "Asshole!" fatwas.

Nah.

When I registered with this nic, I had no clue about the number of Manilow fans here.

620 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:00:47am

re: #612 kcladderman

Pretty cool sit isn't it? Look at it three or four times a week.

621 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:01:05am

re: #620 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pretty cool site isn't it? Look at it three or four times a week.


Oops

622 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:01:15am

Later all. Have a good day.

623 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:01:22am

re: #595 realwest

Good morning real, feeling okay today?

624 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:01:26am

re: #615 infidelia

Northeast hot, humid, 90s, 5 pm thunderstorm. Our harbor 80s with a shore breeze I had to wrap up in the beach towel yesterday.

ROTFLMAO..................Poor baby....sitting on the beach in 80 degree weather shivering from a 75 degree breeze.... Man what a brutally rough existence you lead...

625 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:01:34am

re: #585 HoosierHoops

/Can't get song out of my head..Help me!

Here ya go! This little ditty is called Be My Baby. But don't worry. It's not too sweet. And it will cleanse the Manilow.

626 Macker  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:01:39am

re: #609 MandyManners

Well, I didn't want to blow curfew.

Must...resist...urge...to...go...elsewhere.....

627 Dolphin  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:01:43am

re: #601 Ojoe

Thanks! I can almost smell the clean air!

628 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:02:00am

re: #619 MandyManners

Hey.. I liked Homer Simpson's version of the famous Manilow song "Oh Mandy, you came and you gave me some candy!"

629 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:02:14am

re: #616 Ford_Prefect

Is that what we can look forward to now? 16 and 17 year olds driving like crazy from 10:30 to 11:00.

Only the ones who think they're bullet-proof.

630 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:02:20am

re: #609 MandyManners

Well, I didn't want to blow curfew.

Curfew was disappointed.

631 rightside  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:02:20am

re: #604 pingjockey


Nope they're now called "utilities" and make you look like you work in a car repair shop. Complete with nametags and all. Straight legged, blue trousers, but still the chambray shirt.

632 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:02:25am

Me got's to be off and running like a heard of Turtles too...

633 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:02:29am

re: #612 kcladderman

Everything way more than you want to know about the song
[Link: www.songfacts.com...]

Fixed

634 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:02:51am

re: #626 Macker

Must...resist...urge...to...go...elsewhe re.....

HA!

635 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:03:16am

re: #624 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO..................Poor baby....sitting on the beach in 80 degree weather shivering from a 75 degree breeze.... Man what a brutally rough existence you lead...

Ooooooooo yeah. Gonna do it again today.

636 Macker  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:03:22am

re: #634 MandyManners

Yep, and someone else couldn't!

/snicker

637 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:03:30am

re: #555 rightside

LOL, not yet. I still give him hell about ending a sentence in a preposition, dangling participles, sentence fragments, etc. Drives him crazier than his "my bad" does me! :^)

My kids have been corrected since birth.

638 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:04:05am
639 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:04:27am

re: #629 MandyManners

Only the ones who think they're bullet-proof.

Don't they all?

640 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:05:01am

Mandy, you should know better. If you say you "blew chunks" here someone'll say "Chunks the Clown?"

641 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:05:15am

re: #630 MajorPribluda

Curfew was disappointed.

*sigh*

642 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:05:17am

re: #2 Ojoe

Starting off with the Towercam!


Cool!
My Grandfather,who I never met,Was involved in the engineering of a special carriage sys..that transported the lense
to that observetory.
Hadn't thought of that in years!

643 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:05:47am

re: #628 baconeatingkaffir

Hey.. I liked Homer Simpson's version of the famous Manilow song "Oh Mandy, you came and you gave me some candy!"

I prefer "Weekend in New England".

644 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:06:00am

re: #637 goddessoftheclassroom

Darlin' I'm 46 years old and still can tell you what a preposition is.

645 cliffster  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:06:15am

In 1986, Peter Davies was on holiday in Kenya after graduating from Northwestern University

On a hike through the bush, he came across a young bull elephant standing with one leg raised in the air. The elephant seemed distressed, so Peter approached it very carefully.

He got down on one knee and inspected the elephant's foot and found a large piece of wood deeply embedded in it. As carefully and as gently as he could, Peter worked the wood out with his hunting knife, after which the elephant gingerly put down its foot. The elephant turned to face the man, and with a rather curious look on its face, stared at him for several tense moments. Peter stood frozen, thinking of nothing else but being trampled Eventually the elephant trumpeted loudly, turned, and walked away. Peter never forgot that elephant or the events of that day.

Twenty years later, Peter was walking through the Chicago Zoo with his teenaged son. As they approached the elephant enclosure, one of the creatures turned and walked over to near where Peter and his son Cameron were standing. The large bull elephant stared at Peter, lifted its front foot off the ground, then put it down. The elephant did that several times then trumpeted loudly, all the while staring at the man.

Remembering the encounter in 1986, Peter couldn't help wondering if this was the same elephant. Peter summoned up his courage, climbed over the railing and made his way into the enclosure. He walked right up to the elephant and stared back in wonder. The elephant trumpeted again, wrapped its trunk around one of Peter legs and slammed his stupid ass against the railing, killing him instantly.

Probably wasn't the same elephant.

646 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:06:25am

My students were trying to explain to me about a new muslim hip-hop group the sons of allah or some such nonsense. It's so wonderful to see two primative cultures merge!

647 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:06:43am

re: #636 Macker

Yep, and someone else couldn't!

/snicker

Maybe I need a little PostIt for my screen that lists words not to use on a DT.

648 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:06:53am
649 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:07:10am

re: #639 Ford_Prefect

Don't they all?

Yep.

650 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:07:25am

re: #645 cliffster

heh

651 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:07:41am

re: #640 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mandy, you should know better. If you say you "blew chunks" here someone'll say "Chunks the Clown?"

There's a clown named "Chunks"?

652 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:08:12am

re: #648 taxfreekiller

He does like the "u" word, doesn't he.

653 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:08:23am

re: #643 MandyManners

I prefer "Weekend in New England".

Weekends in New England are great. Mine starts tomorrow at 4:00 and doesn't end until July 21 at 6:30.

654 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:08:26am

re: #644 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Darlin' I'm 46 years old and still can tell you what a preposition is.

Sadly, there's at least one generation of people who were not taught English grammar because some nitwit thought that it wasn't necessary...kids should just be allowed to express themselves however they want to, and somehow they'd pick up structure and usage.

655 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:08:39am

re: #651 MandyManners

prolly. heh.

656 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:08:50am

re: #645 cliffster

ROFLMAO!

657 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:09:18am

re: #644 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Darlin' I'm 46 years old and still can tell you what a preposition is.

Now I'm not one to verb a noun, but I did get prepositioned by this shameless single chick a few days ago.

658 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:09:34am

re: #654 goddessoftheclassroom

Nobody's fault but mine.

659 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:09:44am

re: #647 MandyManners

Maybe I need a little PostIt for my screen that lists words not to use on a DT.

That would be one big PostIt.

660 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:10:04am
661 Desert Dog  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:10:13am
662 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:10:28am

re: #653 Ford_Prefect

Weekends in New England are great. Mine starts tomorrow at 4:00 and doesn't end until July 21 at 6:30.

That's one area of the country I'd love to live for a year or so. All that sea-food.

663 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:11:05am

re: #658 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nobody's fault but mine.

Did you mean to say that you DIDN'T know what a preposition was? You typed "still can tell you..."

664 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:11:35am

re: #654 goddessoftheclassroom

Sadly, there's at least one generation of people who were not taught English grammar because some nitwit thought that it wasn't necessary...kids should just be allowed to express themselves however they want to, and somehow they'd pick up structure and usage.

That is incredibly bass-ackwards. It's as if one can build a building only after the graffiti has been marked on it.

665 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:11:47am

Evil?

666 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:11:50am

re: #605 doriangrey

re: #611 HoosierHoops
and
re: #623 3 wood

Good morning back to all y'all - sorry for the "group" answer but I got stuck in helping Mom with something in the kitchen that took longer than I thought it would!
And I gotta go to the Oncolgoist again today for a "chat" and to have another hormone time-release capsule inserted in my stomach. Oh. Joy.
Otherwise I'm feeling ok and am sick as can be about this crappy weather!
Hope all y'all are doing well!
Um, 3-Wood - do I by any chance owe you an e-mail?!

667 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:11:55am

Evil.

668 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:12:02am

re: #662 MandyManners

That's one area of the country I'd love to live for a year or so. All that sea-food.

I don't eat much seafood, but those who do tell me it's great. I am going to Cape Cod and my wife has been looking forward to some lobster for weeks now.

669 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:12:06am

I couldn't be evil if I tried.

670 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:12:21am

re: #579 doriangrey

Actually, I don't recall anybody saying that they were offended by anything.

We were discussing why the Chicago Cubs organization tends to go 100 years at a time without winning a Championship is all. Having a fan base who is not all that concerned about what goes on on the field could very likely be a contributing factor, but if that works for them, great.

I personally like supporting a team that is trying to win, but to each their own.

I hope you have a nice day :)

671 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:12:27am
672 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:12:53am

re: #655 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Remember the "Chuckles the Clown" episode on Mary Tyler Moore?

673 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:13:29am

re: #672 MandyManners

Remember the "Chuckles the Clown" episode on Mary Tyler Moore?

Hysterical.

674 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:13:29am
675 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:13:30am

re: #657 MajorPribluda

Now I'm not one to verb a noun, but I did get prepositioned by this shameless single chick a few days ago.

You attract poultry?

676 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:13:34am

re: #654 goddessoftheclassroom

re: #664 MandyManners

That is incredibly bass-ackwards. It's as if one can build a building only after the graffiti has been marked on it.

These are the knock-on effect of Chomskyism.

677 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:13:41am

re: #663 goddessoftheclassroom

Did you mean to say that you DIDN'T know what a preposition was? You typed "still can tell you..."

No, that was a typo...should have typed can't. I can't even type a sentence about how moronic I am without throwing in further evidence. Or, is that "farther"?

GAH!

678 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:13:58am

re: #659 Ford_Prefect

That would be one big PostIt.

Or, a lot of small ones.

679 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:14:01am

re: #675 MandyManners

You attract poultry?

Nicely done :-)

680 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:14:02am

re: #666 realwest

Um, 3-Wood - do I by any chance owe you an e-mail?!

No, not that I am aware of.

Please let me know how your doctors appointment goes, my friend.

681 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:14:40am

BTW - one of my former Law Partners was a personal lawyer to Barry Manilow (as well as to Led Zep here in the US and Peter Gabriel after Led Zep broke up) and he told me that Barry "availed himself" of all the groupies that hung around - he also told me that Barry laughed about "Mandy" as it was Barry's term for quaaludes!
Just a little factoid to help make your day!

682 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:15:00am

re: #669 MandyManners

Mandy - are you here?

I thought I read the other day that you are starting a blog on issues relating to Muslim women.

This website has lots of articles, including ones about the discrimination against women in the Muslim world, including communities in countries such as England.

womensphere

Thought I'd pass it along to you in case you're not already familiar with it.

683 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:15:02am

re: #668 Ford_Prefect

I don't eat much seafood, but those who do tell me it's great. I am going to Cape Cod and my wife has been looking forward to some lobster for weeks now.

I just heard about a lobster pound the other day. Sounds dreamy.

684 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:15:09am

re: #672 MandyManners

Remember the "Chuckles the Clown" episode on Mary Tyler Moore?

Yeah, when you mentioned it. Hah!

685 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:15:25am
686 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:15:46am

re: #676 MajorPribluda

re: #664 MandyManners


These are the knock-on effect of Chomskyism.

All that stupid in one skull.

687 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:16:06am

re: #679 MajorPribluda

Nicely done :-)

*takes a bow*

688 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:16:36am

re: #683 MandyManners

I just heard about a lobster pound the other day. Sounds dreamy.

Lobsters are related to cockroaches...

just sayin'...

689 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:16:52am

re: #681 realwest

BTW - one of my former Law Partners was a personal lawyer to Barry Manilow (as well as to Led Zep here in the US and Peter Gabriel after Led Zep broke up) and he told me that Barry "availed himself" of all the groupies that hung around - he also told me that Barry laughed about "Mandy" as it was Barry's term for quaaludes!
Just a little factoid to help make your day!

Really? I LOVED quaaludes.

690 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:16:57am

The Harvard Preposition:

Freshman: "Excuse me, but I'm new here. Where's the library at?"

Upperclassman: "Gads! At Harvard, we do not end our sentences in prepoitions!"

Freshman: "Oh, of course. Well, where's the library at, Asshole?"

691 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:17:09am

Good Morning everyone! Beautiful morning here. Hope you all can say the same.

692 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:17:27am

re: #688 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lobsters are related to cockroaches...

just sayin'...

Oh, for fuck's sake.

693 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:17:29am
694 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:17:50am
695 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:17:58am

brb

696 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:18:03am

re: #687 MandyManners

*takes a bow*

*averts eyes*

697 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:18:31am

re: #691 CapeCoddah

Good Morning everyone! Beautiful morning here. Hope you all can say the same.

Beautiful Moahning theah!

698 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:18:32am
699 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:18:35am

re: #688 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

FBVV, those are some fine and tasty cockroaches!

700 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:19:04am

re: #692 MandyManners

Oh, for fuck's sake.

I was just sayin'!

701 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:19:12am
702 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:19:21am

Goooood morning Lizards!

So when does John McCain start running for President? All of the latest EV state polls I see have The Obama with 320-330 EV's... It would be nice for McCain to realize his friends in the media are not going to do him any favors here...

It's time for him to get serious or this thing will be over by the Dem Convention... BTW, Obama giving his speech in the football stadium... Brilliant on his part... Makes him a rockstar...

What a freakin' joke...

/If you can't tell I am resigning myself to McCain fraking this up big time, which he already is...

703 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:19:27am

re: #693 taxfreekiller

cockroaches are also related to Harry Reid

In fact, they are believed to have evolved from Harry Reid, and although some here will dispute that mechanism, all agree that the relationship is undeniable.

704 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:19:38am

re: #666 realwest

re: #611 HoosierHoops
and
re: #623 3 wood

Good morning back to all y'all - sorry for the "group" answer but I got stuck in helping Mom with something in the kitchen that took longer than I thought it would!
And I gotta go to the Oncolgoist again today for a "chat" and to have another hormone time-release capsule inserted in my stomach. Oh. Joy.
Otherwise I'm feeling ok and am sick as can be about this crappy weather!
Hope all y'all are doing well!
Um, 3-Wood - do I by any chance owe you an e-mail?!

{realwest}

Extra-strength prayers...

705 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:19:57am
706 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:20:04am

re: #674 taxfreekiller
Good Morning my friend - my you sure are "chatty" this morning - too much Apache coffee, I reckon.

707 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:20:32am

re: #691 CapeCoddah

Good morning. Just 3 more days until I am Cape bound.

708 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:21:58am

re: #680 3 wood Will do, IF we don't get the damned T-Storms and ligthning all afternoon and evening like we did yesterday.
Call me crazy but I hate being on the computer when it's thunder and lightning outside; super-surge protector or not! LOL!
How are you doing today?

709 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:23:08am
710 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:23:10am

re: #690 MajorPribluda

The Harvard Preposition:

Freshman: "Excuse me, but I'm new here. Where's the library at?"

Upperclassman: "Gads! At Harvard, we do not end our sentences in prepoitions!"

Freshman: "Oh, of course. Well, where's the library at, Asshole?"

As I explained to another Lizard, the Freshman added an appositive but did not correct the error. The problem isn't a preposition at the end; it's a preposition without an object (which often happens when it's at the end of the sentence, so the "rule" is a kind of a shortcut.)

ex: Where is it at? > Where is it?
ex: What are you looking at? = correct because the object of "at" is "what."

711 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:23:12am

re: #654 goddessoftheclassroom

Sadly, there's at least one generation of people who were not taught English grammar because some nitwit thought that it wasn't necessary...kids should just be allowed to express themselves however they want to, and somehow they'd pick up structure and usage.


/ The nuns where i went to school used best practice methods of torture throwing in the occasional English Lesson for good measure.

712 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:23:36am

For those who care, here is some more details on the Cubs recent addition:

Cubs trade four players to A's for pitchers Harden, Gaudin

Harden, eligible to be a free agent after the 2009 season, is 5-1 with a 2.34 ERA in 13 starts this season. He's scheduled to make $4.75 million this season.

"We will have the rights for a year and a half, so that's the other advantage of him not being a free agent," Hendry said. "He has an option that could vest, or we could pick up the option or we could arbitrate. So he certainly has a chance to be a Cub through the end of next year."

The oft-injured Harden missed a month earlier this season because of a right shoulder strain. It was his sixth trip to the disabled list in his six-year career.

According to someone I know inside baseball, Harden's innings pitched need to be "carefully managed".

Hope it works out for them.

713 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:23:59am

re: #707 Ford_Prefect

Awesome! We have had beautiful weather, it should be great for you!.
Just don't hold up the line at dunkin donuts when you get here. Always makes me late for work! And, don't forget to try Rock Harbor in Orleans for the tidal flats.

714 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:24:05am

re: #710 goddessoftheclassroom

Love ya Goddess...but DEAR GOD!

715 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:24:21am
716 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:24:33am

Worky time! Woot!

BBL

717 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:24:34am

re: #689 MandyManners
Heh, you weren't the only one Mandy! For a while they threated pot in terms of popularity in NYC and environs, anyway!
Even the fake ones and the itty-bitty ones imported from our good friends to the North - Canada!

718 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:25:01am

re: #708 realwest


How are you doing today?

Fine, all's quiet on the western front here.

719 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:25:46am

re: #693 taxfreekiller
ROFLMAO! Great one TFK!
And the cockroaches are ashamed of the relationship, too!

720 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:26:19am

re: #713 CapeCoddah

Awesome! We have had beautiful weather, it should be great for you!.
Just don't hold up the line at dunkin donuts when you get here. Always makes me late for work! And, don't forget to try Rock Harbor in Orleans for the tidal flats.

I remember. Thanks.

721 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:27:06am

re: #702 tfc3rid

Goooood morning Lizards!

So when does John McCain start running for President? All of the latest EV state polls I see have The Obama with 320-330 EV's... It would be nice for McCain to realize his friends in the media are not going to do him any favors here...

It's time for him to get serious or this thing will be over by the Dem Convention... BTW, Obama giving his speech in the football stadium... Brilliant on his part... Makes him a rockstar...

What a freakin' joke...

/If you can't tell I am resigning myself to McCain fraking this up big time, which he already is...

722 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:27:10am

re: #654 goddessoftheclassroom

Sadly, there's at least one generation of people who were not taught English grammar because some nitwit thought that it wasn't necessary...kids should just be allowed to express themselves however they want to, and somehow they'd pick up structure and usage.

I think some of those people are my bosses!

"He was inlivid irregardless of how he was orientated..." GACK!

723 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:27:29am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Hope everyone is well on this fine summer morning.

724 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:28:16am

re: #693 taxfreekiller

cockroaches are also related to Harry Reid

What's up with insulting the whole cockroach population? They aren't nearly as bad as Reid is. Poor cockroaches. Now you owe them reparations.

725 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:28:19am

re: #723 loppyd

Good morning Loppy.

Another good win last night for our boys in red.

726 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:28:36am

re: #681 realwest

BTW - one of my former Law Partners was a personal lawyer to Barry Manilow (as well as to Led Zep here in the US and Peter Gabriel after Led Zep broke up) and he told me that Barry "availed himself" of all the groupies that hung around - he also told me that Barry laughed about "Mandy" as it was Barry's term for quaaludes!
Just a little factoid to help make your day!

/This is what happens when barry Manilow is mentioned..
looking for sharp stick now..

727 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:29:07am

re: #724 CapeCoddah

What's up with insulting the whole cockroach population? They aren't nearly as bad as Reid is. Poor cockroaches. Now you owe them reparations.

I'll make sure to write that on the bottom of my boots.

728 goddessoftheclassroom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:29:08am

re: #714 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Love ya Goddess...but DEAR GOD!

Oh, I'm know and I'm sorry--but I've got to keep in practice over the summer!

729 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:29:14am

re: #681 realwest

Mandy" as it was Barry's term for quaaludes!
Just a little factoid to help make your day!

Really? I'd heard it was about a dog he had as a boy (sort of like Roberta Flack's "Your Face" was about her cat).

730 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:29:33am

re: #702 tfc3rid Hey, good morning my friend! What are EV's anyway?
And y'all have to remember that McCain: a) has agreed to take public financing which give Obama about $100 million more buckos than does McCain and b) The MSM, though pretending to be pissed off at the Obamamessiah, is still carrying water for him and c) McCain has taken only a few shots back at Obama, but everyone of McCains' shots hits the target; Obama is just TOO FULL OF HIMSELF to actually win the election. Gonna be just like Kerry for the Dems, only MUCH WORSE.

731 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:29:53am

re: #727 Ford_Prefect

LOL

732 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:30:36am

re: #688 Fat Bastard Vegetarian,

Big water bug. Sounds appetizing, doesn't it? "I'll have some more water bug bisque, please."

733 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:30:39am

re: #17 Jay777

Daily Kos Advice: Americans are not Selfish Enough!

The left-wing proggie takers do aspire to more ass sitting. If only they could swing in a hammock all day long, read left-wing conspiracy pamphlets and drink/smoke themselves into oblivion. All on the tax payer's dime! Paradise! Just don't make them do the work camp thing.
/that's so old skool commie

734 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:30:42am

re: #725 Ford_Prefect

Good morning Loppy.

Another good win last night for our boys in red.

Good Morning!

There's something about the 8th inning lately.....

Nice to see Lester get the win, too!

735 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:30:44am

re: #723 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Hope everyone is well on this fine summer morning.

Hi Loppy. Last day of mini-vacation. Back to the beach, great shore breeze yesterday.

736 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:31:08am

re: #704 goddessoftheclassroom Hey {goddess} Thank you very much - don't think I'll need prayers much today, 'cept for that insertion (with a damn 5/16th's needle) of that time release capsule into my stomach - boy, that smarts!
It's sure good to see you out here this morning, how are you doing?

737 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:32:01am

re: #721 MandyManners

Morning Mandy...

738 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:32:18am

re: #735 infidelia

Hi Loppy. Last day of mini-vacation. Back to the beach, great shore breeze yesterday.

Hey there.

I start my mini vacation this afternoon - quick trip to Maine.

Have fun at the beach!

739 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:32:45am

re: #723 loppyd


Hi loppy, long time no talk.

Hey, my team is in 1st place. How's yours doing?

*ducks, runs under desk*

740 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:32:59am

re: #730 realwest

Hey, good morning my friend! What are EV's anyway?
And y'all have to remember that McCain: a) has agreed to take public financing which give Obama about $100 million more buckos than does McCain and b) The MSM, though pretending to be pissed off at the Obamamessiah, is still carrying water for him and c) McCain has taken only a few shots back at Obama, but everyone of McCains' shots hits the target; Obama is just TOO FULL OF HIMSELF to actually win the election. Gonna be just like Kerry for the Dems, only MUCH WORSE.

Mornin' Realwest!

Your point about BO being too full of himself to win is well taken, but unfortunately whenever I look at the McCain Campaign I get flashbacks to Bob Dole in '96.

/Not Good!

741 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:32:59am

A-Rod, ex-stripper could go a-court-in’


The ex-Boston stripper who had a brief fling with the very-married A-Rod back in 2004 may get dragged into the Yankees slugger’s high-stakes divorce.

An attorney for Rodriguez’ scorned wife said Cynthia Rodriguez’ legal team may be interested in talking to Candice Houlihan. The Reading hairdresser and ex-exotic dancer says she had a two-night fling with Alex Rodriguez when his wife was pregnant with their first child.

“Anybody with eyes or ears knows that that’s an issue in this case,” Houston attorney John Van Ness told the Track yesterday.

742 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:33:02am

re: #734 loppyd

Nice to see Lester get the win, too!

Actually he didn't. It went to Aardsma.

I have been a big fan of Lester's since they drafted him. He shares my grandfather's name.

743 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:33:21am

re: #730 realwest

Hey, good morning my friend! What are EV's anyway?
And y'all have to remember that McCain: a) has agreed to take public financing which give Obama about $100 million more buckos than does McCain and b) The MSM, though pretending to be pissed off at the Obamamessiah, is still carrying water for him and c) McCain has taken only a few shots back at Obama, but everyone of McCains' shots hits the target; Obama is just TOO FULL OF HIMSELF to actually win the election. Gonna be just like Kerry for the Dems, only MUCH WORSE.

Electorial votes...

Obama is too full of himself but his brainless ,witless supporters are VERY aggressive... They think he will undo the 'wrongs; that were perpetrated by BushCo and they will put a dagger once and for all into the Conservative movement...

744 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:33:34am

OK - Is this creepy enough for yas?

745 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:33:39am

re: #732 Iron Fist

Big water bugs are best when steamed fresh then drowned in melted butter. Sweet and tender. ( BTW, lobsters DO NOT scream when you drop them in the pot, but they do thrash around for a sec.!)

746 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:33:41am

re: #739 3 wood

Hi loppy, long time no talk.

Hey, my team is in 1st place. How's yours doing?

*ducks, runs under desk*

Hi 3 wood!

Your team deserves to be in 1st place!

747 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:33:52am

re: #734 loppyd

Good Morning!

There's something about the 8th inning lately.....

Nice to see Lester get the win, too!

Morning loppy... Good for your Sox...

My Mets are behind the Phollies in the loss column...

748 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:34:04am

re: #741 loppyd

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

749 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:34:08am

re: #718 3 wood
Hmm, too quiet?! Time to make some noise you figure? LOL!

750 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:34:26am

re: #747 tfc3rid

One behind the Phollies in the loss column.

751 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:34:32am

re: #745 CapeCoddah

Big water bugs are best when steamed fresh then drowned in melted butter. Sweet and tender. ( BTW, lobsters DO NOT scream when you drop them in the pot, but they do thrash around for a sec.!)

I just got weak in the knees.....yummy

752 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:34:39am

re: #722 CIA Reject

I think some of those people are my bosses!

"He was inlivid irregardless of how he was orientated..." GACK!

What in the world?!

753 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:34:53am

re: #536 3 wood

I asm convinced that you could put 9 trained monkeys in cubs uniforms, throw them out on the field and Wrigley Field would draw 36,000 to drink beer.

I've sat in the bleachers and been the only one there actually paying attention to the game. There were guys hitting on girls, girls hitting on guys, girls hitting on girls, guys hitting on guys, and none of them even knew what was going on in the game. It was like one big meat market put there.


I have had similar experiences. I have a friend who is a self descibed "Die Hard Cubs Fan"
Several years ago , he said that he loves to go to Wrigley & watch Santo play. I had to point out to him that Santo was already retired for years. True story

754 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:35:09am

re: #748 Ford_Prefect

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I used to get my hair done at a salon in Reading, but she doesn't look familiar.

755 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:35:23am

re: #717 realwest

Heh, you weren't the only one Mandy! For a while they threated pot in terms of popularity in NYC and environs, anyway!
Even the fake ones and the itty-bitty ones imported from our good friends to the North - Canada!

My first was at a Foghat concert in Mid-South Colliseum. Awesome stuff.

756 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:35:40am

re: #751 loppyd

LOL, YOU have to appreciate that, it's required by law!

757 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:35:56am

re: #723 {loppyd}
Good morning good looking! How's things for you today? Gonna be a nice, relaxing day, is it?!

758 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:35:56am

{GOC}
ex: Where is it at? > Where is it?
ex: What are you looking at? = correct because the object of "at" is "what."

what are you looking at? you look'n at me? you look'n at me? you must be looking at me.. I don't see nobody else here..
/ GOC is now getting her red pen out..

759 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:36:29am

re: #723 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Hope everyone is well on this fine summer morning.

It's hot and the humidity is so high that you can harvest water just by sweeping your arm through the air outside.

760 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:36:48am

re: #747 tfc3rid

Morning loppy... Good for your Sox...

My Mets are behind the Phollies in the loss column...

Good Morning to you!

The Mets are off the rails. But you never know what can happen with the trading frenzy that is coming up. Remember the Red Sox in 04 and how those trades changed everything.....

761 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:37:25am

re: #737 tfc3rid

Morning Mandy...


What's up with you?

762 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:38:02am

re: #759 MandyManners

It's hot and the humidity is so high that you can harvest water just by sweeping your arm through the air outside.

LOL

Same here! Since the A/C is busted in our one marginally fuel efficient car I am taking the gas pig Jeep to Maine today. It's going to cost me $100 bucks when all is said and done.

763 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:38:07am

re: #740 CIA Reject

Mornin' Realwest!

Your point about BO being too full of himself to win is well taken, but unfortunately whenever I look at the McCain Campaign I get flashbacks to Bob Dole in '96.

/Not Good!

*shudder*

764 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:38:43am

re: #579 doriangrey

Why do anything at all? Why should anyone not playing give a flying crap about any sport? If you're to lame to get out there and play yourself why bother watching someone else play? Oh yea, because we all have slightly different concepts of what exactly constitutes entertainment. Some people go to watch the game, some people go to watch the people watching the game, and some people go to watch the people watching the people watching the game.

How anyone could possibly be so fucking anal as to be offended that someone might go to a game and not watch the game is totally beyond me. Who gives a crap why they are there. Unless you are actually playing the game you're just a spectator, how or why you choose to specatate is your business not some anal pricks. If Cubs fans choose to go to the game and have a really good time regardless of who win, then it sounds like the Cubs fans are the real winners and anyone offended by their behavior is the real looser.


Ya know, you are taking this way to serious. I am just screwing around, Whatever. Go Sox

765 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:38:44am

re: #761 MandyManners

Not much... Been working away from the office a bit lately so I've been out of touch with Lizard Nation...

Glad to be back around though...

766 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:39:09am

re: #753 opnion

I have had similar experiences. I have a friend who is a self descibed "Die Hard Cubs Fan"
Several years ago , he said that he loves to go to Wrigley & watch Santo play. I had to point out to him that Santo was already retired for years. True story

that's a great story! I understand you can still catch MJ play also.

767 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:39:42am

re: #738 loppyd

Hey there.

I start my mini vacation this afternoon - quick trip to Maine.

Have fun at the beach!

Excellent choice for mid-week, you can actually move on Rte 1.

768 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:39:43am

re: #762 loppyd

LOL

Same here! Since the A/C is busted in our one marginally fuel efficient car I am taking the gas pig Jeep to Maine today. It's going to cost me $100 bucks when all is said and done.

How much to get the A/C fixed in the car?

769 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:39:57am

re: #755 MandyManners

My first was at a Foghat concert in Mid-South Colliseum. Awesome stuff.

Mine was Journey.

770 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:40:15am

re: #765 tfc3rid

Not much... Been working away from the office a bit lately so I've been out of touch with Lizard Nation...

Glad to be back around though...

Didja' get the shakes?

771 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:40:44am

re: #768 MandyManners

How much to get the A/C fixed in the car?

Gratis if I can hold out until next week when a friend of a friend said he'd give it the boost after hours. :~)

772 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:40:46am

re: #752 MandyManners

What in the world?!

That was a sentence we deliberately made up to showcase our management's incurable addiction to jargon in general and particularly to non-existent words such as: "inlivid" (for "livid"), "irrregardless" (for "regardless") and "orientated" (for "oriented").

/Mornin' Mandy!

773 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:40:53am

re: #770 MandyManners

Didja' get the shakes?

A bit... Whithdrawal was a bitch...

774 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:41:01am

re: #762 loppyd

LOL

Same here! Since the A/C is busted in our one marginally fuel efficient car I am taking the gas pig Jeep to Maine today. It's going to cost me $100 bucks when all is said and done.

I heard a report that UPS sets up its routes so that drivers don't have to take left turns. Supposedly saved them millions of gallons of gas last year not having to idle waiting to turn. Maybe you can try that.

775 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:41:12am

re: #769 loppyd

Mine was Journey.

Wow. That takes me back. Pleasant memories.

776 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:41:32am

re: #729 3 wood
Not according to my law partner. Who, btw, had THE BEST GIG in the world. He somehow convinced Led Zep (this was when they were only on their second or third album) that he should accompany them on their US tour to handle any "legal entanglements" that might arise, so he got paid his hourly rate for like 15 hours a day and was backstage at ALL of their performances!
Wow, what a genius he was - although he did say that Led Zep had more groupies (ducks Hoosier's pointed stick) than did Barry, but not if you added up all the members of Led Zep and divided by 3+ (each one had their own personal "assistants" to go find certain chicks groupies in the audience to bring back stage for a few minutes of personal time!).

777 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:41:37am

re: #771 loppyd

Gratis if I can hold out until next week when a friend of a friend said he'd give it the boost after hours. :~)

Can't beat that with a stick.

778 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:42:13am

re: #772 CIA Reject

That was a sentence we deliberately made up to showcase our management's incurable addiction to jargon in general and particularly to non-existent words such as: "inlivid" (for "livid"), "irrregardless" (for "regardless") and "orientated" (for "oriented").

/Mornin' Mandy!

Good morning to you, even though you made my brain hurt.

779 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:42:37am

re: #766 HoosierHoops

that's a great story! I understand you can still catch MJ play also.

Absolutely. Back to the Cubs, it is really not about baseball.
No, it is ditching work & going to Waste Management Field , to oogle the girls & get drunk, while working on a tan.
I can't stop.

780 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:42:54am

re: #742 Ford_Prefect

Actually he didn't. It went to Aardsma.

I have been a big fan of Lester's since they drafted him. He shares my grandfather's name.

Oops my bad.

A fine name indeed!

781 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:43:30am

re: #774 Ford_Prefect

I heard a report that UPS sets up its routes so that drivers don't have to take left turns. Supposedly saved them millions of gallons of gas last year not having to idle waiting to turn. Maybe you can try that.

Why wait? Why not just dash across the on-coming lanes of traffic?

782 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:43:31am

re: #780 loppyd

Oops my bad.

A fine name indeed!

Enjoy your mini vacation... No vaca for me till November.

783 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:43:54am

Morning Everyone!

What's happening?

784 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:44:06am

re: #781 MandyManners

Why wait? Why not just dash across the on-coming lanes of traffic?

UPS by me does that... They figure if there's a big brown truck barreling across the intersection the other cars will stop...

785 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:44:09am

re: #776 realwest

Not according to my law partner. Who, btw, had THE BEST GIG in the world. He somehow convinced Led Zep (this was when they were only on their second or third album) that he should accompany them on their US tour to handle any "legal entanglements" that might arise, so he got paid his hourly rate for like 15 hours a day and was backstage at ALL of their performances!
Wow, what a genius he was - although he did say that Led Zep had more groupies (ducks Hoosier's pointed stick) than did Barry, but not if you added up all the members of Led Zep and divided by 3+ (each one had their own personal "assistants" to go find certain chicks groupies in the audience to bring back stage for a few minutes of personal time!).

Only a few minutes?

786 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:44:20am

re: #740 CIA Reject I've heard that some good whiskey will cure those flashbacks! I honestly think McCain has waaay more fire in the belly than did Dole - I mean he's already smacked Barry around like a pinata a few times, he's just more genteel about it than we would be, for example!

787 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:44:36am

re: #757 {realwest}

Good morning good looking! How's things for you today? Gonna be a nice, relaxing day, is it?!

Good Morning, Handsome!

Relaxing once I get the hayall out of here. Planning to take the coastal route for part of the ride....that always soothes my soul.

788 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:45:12am

re: #784 tfc3rid

UPS by me does that... They figure if there's a big brown truck barreling across the intersection the other cars will stop...

I like the guys in their brown shorts. All that walking...you know they look good. They know they look good.

789 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:45:27am

re: #777 MandyManners

Can't beat that with a stick.

Nope. I'm going to buy him a case of beer for hooking me up....

790 bosforus  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:45:52am

Chúpalo, Obama!

791 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:45:54am

Look at this:

Pakistan: BABIES FOR JIHAD
Islamic jihadi shit-hole of a country, with nukes...American "ally". Feh.

792 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:46:23am

re: #784 tfc3rid

UPS by me does that... They figure if there's a big brown truck barreling across the intersection the other cars will stop...

Wouldn't you?

793 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:46:28am

re: #743 tfc3rid
Whoa, I woulnd't want to be in Barry's shoes if he's elected - man, what a backlash he'll face from the left when they (and, apparently, he) find out he can't deliver on about oh 100% of his promises!

794 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:46:34am

re: #788 MandyManners

I like the guys in their brown shorts. All that walking...you know they look good. They know they look good.

My gf says the same thing... But I just think to myself... All brown, man, that must be really WARM...

795 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:46:42am

re: #782 tfc3rid

Enjoy your mini vacation... No vaca for me till November.

Thanks....going somewhere fabulous in November?

My mom wants me to go to China with her this winter. Not feeling it, though.

796 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:46:55am

re: #746 loppyd

Hi 3 wood!

Your team deserves to be in 1st place!

Well, it may not last but I'm enjoying anyway. I think the Twins are a better team.

Tampa will not last, believe me.

797 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:46:57am

re: #779 opnion

Absolutely. Back to the Cubs, it is really not about baseball.
No, it is ditching work & going to Waste Management Field , to oogle the girls & get drunk, while working on a tan.
I can't stop.

I love going there.. Some buddies and I try to make a least 1 game every year..
/ahhh..the mandy song is now gone..
Take me out to the ballgame...mmmm

798 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:47:06am

re: #778 MandyManners

Good morning to you, even though you made my brain hurt.

:-)

799 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:47:14am

re: #628 baconeatingkaffir

Hey there BEK...how are you?

800 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:47:40am

Yawwwn....g/morning...snizzle....dribble...oh my, coffee....

801 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:47:40am

re: #756 CapeCoddah

LOL, YOU have to appreciate that, it's required by law!

I expect I will be digging into a few red bugs this evening.....

802 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:48:04am

re: #750 tfc3rid

One behind the Phollies in the loss column.

Good morning all.

tfc, your Mets are 1.5 games out...my Astros are 13.5 out.
I hate to be an Indian Giver...but I want Beltron and Wagner back...no offense.

803 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:48:17am

re: #788 MandyManners

I like the guys in their brown shorts. All that walking...you know they look good. They know they look good.

I am still waiting for Hooters to start a delivery service. I will start sending myself packages.

804 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:48:26am

re: #788 MandyManners

Don't you just love that confidence? I love watching that. Well-I like watching the whole thing, but confidence is key.

805 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:48:33am

Good morning kiddies. Some wonderfully dramatic t-storms rolled through here last night. We need the rain for sure.

What's happening 'round these parts?

806 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:48:39am

re: #744 FrogMarch
Huh. I don't see the resemblance at all - must be cause the ears are waaaaay too small! LOL!
What an idiot.
Oh wait. Did he get paid to do that?!

807 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:49:00am

The morons on kos have frontpaged the new McCain ad.
Here

They don't get it that it is a slam against obambi's "hope" crap.

808 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:49:11am

re: #789 loppyd

Nope. I'm going to buy him a case of beer for hooking me up....

Sounds like a good barter.

809 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:49:29am

re: #791 WriterMom,

The alternative was to nuke Pakistan's nuclear arsenal so that we could be sure it wouldn't be used against us. Maybe we should have gone for what was behind Door Number 2.

810 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:49:34am

Just read this comment at DKos...

Why is it that we never hear about when (0+ / 0-)

the US conducts a missile test? But when Iran does it it's the end of the world and we're all going to die in a hail of missiles. If i were an Iranian leader, i'd want some kind of protection from these crazies. If nuclear is the best detterent(and i think after the N.Korea example we can all agree it is) the sooner Iran gets the bomb the better in my opinion.

by robertoroberto on Wed Jul 09, 2008 at 05:53:54 AM PDT

Good morning lizards!

811 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:49:40am

re: #796 3 wood

Well, it may not last but I'm enjoying anyway. I think the Twins are a better team.

Tampa will not last, believe me.

I hope you're right....they seem to have the Red Sox number lately.

Papi has been taking batting practice and may be back sooner than expected.....good news. Now if they could only do something about the bull pen and get rid of Julio Lugo.

812 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:49:47am

re: #796 3 wood

Well, it may not last but I'm enjoying anyway. I think the Twins are a better team.

Tampa will not last, believe me.

Tampa being in the lead is bizarre no doubt.

So you think the Sox will fall to the Twinks, eh?

813 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:50:03am

re: #796 3 wood

Tampa will not last, believe me.

I have been telling myself that since April.

814 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:50:09am

re: #791 WriterMom

Look at this:

Pakistan: BABIES FOR JIHAD
Islamic jihadi shit-hole of a country, with nukes...American "ally". Feh.

They're not mothers. They're breeders.

815 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:50:15am

re: #753 opnion
ROFL! Good morning my friend, how are you this fine morning?

816 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:50:24am

re: #800 Golem Akbar

Golem, you keeping tabs on So You Think You Can Dance?

817 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:50:31am

re: #774 Ford_Prefect

I can tell you, with certainty, that UPS trucks DO turn left routinely on the Cape!

818 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:50:33am

re: #794 tfc3rid

My gf says the same thing... But I just think to myself... All brown, man, that must be really WARM...

Like buttah.

819 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:51:17am

re: #803 Ford_Prefect

I am still waiting for Hooters to start a delivery service. I will start sending myself packages.

In a cold building, I presume.

820 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:51:47am

re: #814 MandyManners

Mandy-I cannot really say here what I actually feel, deep in my heart.

But I'm sending it to you through the screen, can you feel it?

( ( ( DELETED ) ) )

821 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:51:57am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Iran is busy saber rattling again, with their latest military drills and test firing of long range missiles. It's curious that they do so just hours after Ahmadinejad says that the risk of war is low. It's also curious that the drill took place just days after the US conducted military exercises in the Gulf. Coincidence? I think not.

822 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:51:59am

re: #795 loppyd

Thanks....going somewhere fabulous in November?

My mom wants me to go to China with her this winter. Not feeling it, though.

Cruise to the Western Caribbean... You know, nothing fancy ;)

823 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:52:03am

re: #819 MandyManners

In a cold building, I presume.

lol

824 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:52:12am

re: #804 WriterMom

Don't you just love that confidence? I love watching that. Well-I like watching the whole thing, but confidence is key.

Confidence is nice but, tight butts drive me nuts.

825 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:52:28am

re: #818 MandyManners

GAH! LOLOLOL

Like buttah.

Indeed.

826 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:52:31am

re: #816 WriterMom

Golem, you keeping tabs on So You Think You Can Dance?


Yes. It's really enjoyable. I've got a couple of favorites. Very addicting. You?

827 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:52:55am

re: #824 MandyManners

You're a poet!

828 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:53:10am

re: #802 jorline

Good morning all.

tfc, your Mets are 1.5 games out...my Astros are 13.5 out.
I hate to be an Indian Giver...but I want Beltron and Wagner back...no offense.

They both suck... You can have em...

829 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:53:26am

re: #820 WriterMom

Mandy-I cannot really say here what I actually feel, deep in my heart.

But I'm sending it to you through the screen, can you feel it?

( ( ( DELETED ) ) )

You mean that white-hot blast that just scorched my eyebrows?

830 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:53:37am

re: #753 opnion


Several years ago , he said that he loves to go to Wrigley & watch Santo play. I had to point out to him that Santo was already retired for years. True story

Especially since Santo ended up with the White Sox in the 70's.

The more I check into this new pitcher the Cubs traded for, the more I see Mark Prior in my mind.

Hope I'm wrong, for the sake of my Cubs fan friends.

831 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:53:56am

re: #827 WriterMom

You're a poet!

I credit it to my inspiration.

832 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:54:01am

re: #786 realwest

I've heard that some good whiskey will cure those flashbacks! I honestly think McCain has waaay more fire in the belly than did Dole - I mean he's already smacked Barry around like a pinata a few times, he's just more genteel about it than we would be, for example!

I hope you're right but there's always Leo Durocher to consider. I just hope McCain remembers what happens to "nice guys" in politics as well as in baseball.

/In either case I'll take your advice on the whiskey!

833 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:54:10am

re: #826 Golem Akbar

Total addict. Does Kherington not remind you of Princess Grace? I mean-gorgeous, style. And I love Mia's (Mya?) choreography-the contemporary stuff. Joshua is great and Twitch, too. A pleasure to watch.

What about you?

834 Dolphin  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:54:32am

Old Glory at her best.

835 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:54:48am

re: #816 WriterMom

Golem, you keeping tabs on So You Think You Can Dance?


I'm really waiting for the next Wade Robson choreography. His dances are so far out weird and fun....I think people would really start to understand the fun of modern dance if they saw his dance numbers.

836 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:54:54am

re: #818 MandyManners

Like buttah.

LOL

We use fed ex so I got the bum's rush.

837 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:55:05am

re: #760 loppyd


The Mets are off the rails

What they did to their manager was beyond the pale.

838 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:55:07am

re: #831 MandyManners

You must continue in this career.

"Ode To UPS Driver's Tight Butt Cheeks".

You have a future.

839 infidelia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:55:17am

re: #810 NJDhockeyfan

Just read this comment at DKos...


Good morning lizards!

So nice to know the whole nation will drop its partisan politics and come together if the Dwarf takes out a couple of our bases.

840 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:55:29am

re: #785 MandyManners
Each. Hey, they all did the best they could! LOL!

841 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:55:41am

re: #835 Golem Akbar

Was that the 'comic book' dance. That was weird. Or the African jazz?

842 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:56:29am

re: #836 loppyd

LOL

We use fed ex so I got the bum's rush.

Tight bums?

843 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:56:33am

re: #837 3 wood

What they did to their manager was beyond the pale.

Agreed. The way they handled it was disgraceful.

844 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:56:50am

re: #776 realwest

Not according to my law partner

Well, he should know.

Great story, that.

845 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:56:51am

re: #842 MandyManners

Tight bums?

It's a chick....I haven't looked.

846 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:56:52am

re: #815 realwest

ROFL! Good morning my friend, how are you this fine morning?

Hey Real! How are ya pal, and things are good in the Carolinas?
I actually have to do some work, But I will circle back.

847 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:57:14am

re: #833 WriterMom

Total addict. Does Kherington not remind you of Princess Grace? I mean-gorgeous, style. And I love Mia's (Mya?) choreography-the contemporary stuff. Joshua is great and Twitch, too. A pleasure to watch.

What about you?


I really like the hip hop numbers and tango. I never really got rap and current black music until I saw them performed to dance.

848 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:57:26am

Good morning.

Back when I was working one particular summer job in college, we actually had a regular hottie UPS lady driver. We'd anxiously await the afternoon deliveries. Blonde, tan, about 5'5", maybe in her late 20s. The summer uniform worked just fine for her, too.

849 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:57:54am

re: #838 WriterMom

You must continue in this career.

"Ode To UPS Driver's Tight Butt Cheeks".

You have a future.

Cheeks?

Peaks. Freaks. Geeks. Leaks. Meeks. Tweaks. Seeks. Weeks.

I seek to tweak a really tight cheek.

850 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:58:20am

re: #797 HoosierHoops
Just for you: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

851 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:58:31am

re: #845 loppyd

It's a chick....I haven't looked.

Oh, you poor thing!

852 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:58:43am

re: #822 tfc3rid

Cruise to the Western Caribbean... You know, nothing fancy ;)

SWEET!

853 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:58:54am

re: #785 MandyManners

Only a few minutes?

Having been around professional musicians, this is not surprising in the least.

854 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:58:54am

re: #845 loppyd

It's a chick....I haven't looked.

Look for the male Lizards and get back to us.

855 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:58:57am

re: #841 WriterMom

Was that the 'comic book' dance. That was weird. Or the African jazz?


It's cool that they push new ideas in dance. Makes you realize that there is great humor and wit in this field of entertainment.

856 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:59:01am

re: #851 MandyManners

Oh, you poor thing!

Story of my life. LOL

857 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:59:14am

The lack of US casualties in the Turkey consulate attack shows the wisdom of the 100 foot minimum "setback" for US diplomatic compounds in high-risk countries. There's just no substitute for physical distance.

858 bosforus  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:59:15am

re: #1 experiencedtraveller

McCain 08!

Not a lot of response to that one...one upding...

859 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:00:00am

re: #805 Lucius Septimius Morning Lucius - just the same old, same old, though TFK got off the best line of the morning! LOL!

860 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:00:03am

re: #799 WriterMom

greetings! I'm doing ok. Trying to find a decent link to watch hunan tv. Theyre airing this international bridge chinese language competition that my daughter is taking part in. :)

861 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:00:18am

re: #858 bosforus

Not a lot of response to that one...one upding...


check again

862 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:00:18am

re: #854 Ford_Prefect

Look for the male Lizards and get back to us.

I'll see what I can do the next time we schedule a delivery.

863 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:00:33am

re: #857 Occasional Reader

The lack of US casualties in the Turkey consulate attack shows the wisdom of the 100 foot minimum "setback" for US diplomatic compounds in high-risk countries. There's just no substitute for physical distance.

Except a really big gun.

864 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:00:41am

re: #858 bosforus

Not a lot of response to that one...one upding...

True, but at least we're not swooning when McCain blows his nose, either. I prefer "eh" to "HE IS THE ONE TRUE GOD!".

865 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:01:11am

re: #863 Ford_Prefect

Except a really big gun.

With a good scope... and distance!

866 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:01:17am

re: #710 goddessoftheclassroom

As I explained to another Lizard, the Freshman added an appositive but did not correct the error. The problem isn't a preposition at the end; it's a preposition without an object (which often happens when it's at the end of the sentence, so the "rule" is a kind of a shortcut.)

ex: Where is it at? > Where is it?
ex: What are you looking at? = correct because the object of "at" is "what."

Actually, your second example may still not be correct, depending.
Some of our grammar rules were forged in the attempt to justify bringing the Bible to English from Latin, and to defuse the criticism that English was not sufficiently structured to carry the Word, Latin grammar rules were applied more forcefully than they may naturally have been. Evidence for this? What the prohibitions against split infinitives and terminal prepositions have in common is that neither of these violations can be performed in Latin. The infinitive form in latin does not use a separate word like "to", and so it never occurs. Prepositions are still separate, but other grammar rules in Latin prevent the sentence from taking a structure where you could reasonably tag the preposition on the end.

On a barely related note, I puzzle over things like this: "We are in!"
In this case, you could argue that "in" is short for "in (somewhere)", and that is it some form of rolled-up prep. phrase.
Or perhaps in this case, "in" is moonlighting as an adverb (of place) or adjective (if syntax outweighs semantics).

I have no idea what the official word is on a sentence like this.

867 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:01:30am

re: #830 3 wood

Especially since Santo ended up with the White Sox in the 70's.

The more I check into this new pitcher the Cubs traded for, the more I see Mark Prior in my mind.

Hope I'm wrong, for the sake of my Cubs fan friends.

Best time I've ever had at a baseball was two years ago. The Cubs were playing the Astros and I had four dye-hard Cubby fans sitting behind me. I never laughed so hard...they were brutal and made fun of everything the Cubs were doing. I love going to watch baseball...they made it a day to remember...lol

868 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:01:32am

re: #802 jorline


my Astros are 13.5 out.


I remember watching the preseason evaluations on ESPN this spring, and I think John Kruk said the Astros had the best lineup in the National League.

I almost fell out of my chair.

869 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:02:00am

re: #845 loppyd

Have you heard that stupid song-it's some chick singing about "I kissed a girl, and I liked it". It's on the radio. Must be some idiot producer's threesome fantasy or something. I would die if my kids started singing along to that kind of crap.

870 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:02:02am

re: #864 Occasional Reader

True, but at least we're not swooning when McCain blows his nose, either. I prefer "eh" to "HE IS THE ONE TRUE GOD!".


I expect the liberals to start turning on each other in their usual way -- they get bored when they start to win.

871 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:02:25am

re: #859 realwest

Backatcha, Real.

What'd tfk say?

872 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:02:53am

re: #863 Ford_Prefect

Like I said in an earlier post, the place is built on a hill and looks like a prison or something out of guns of the navarone. After a certain distance vehicles aren't allowed and there are cameras all over the place. I'm still waiting for the US media to mention that two of the dead gunmen had syrian passports and all of them had long hair and beards. ZZ Top fans.. I don't think so!

873 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:02:56am

re: #847 Golem Akbar

The hip hop is excellent. It's fun and I love all the 'popping', but that 'liquid' hip hop. FREAKING OUT MAN. That was so whacked.

874 bosforus  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:03:03am

re: #861 Golem Akbar

check again


:)
I stand corrected.
re: #864 Occasional Reader

True, but at least we're not swooning when McCain blows his nose, either. I prefer "eh" to "HE IS THE ONE TRUE GOD!".

McCain blew his nose?! Must check ebay.

875 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:03:36am

re: #872 baconeatingkaffir

Durn those pesky ZZ Top fans.

876 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:04:06am

re: #791 WriterMom

Those are freakish woman, but bear in mind 2000 women out of a total population of Pakistan at 180 million is 0.1% of the population. The Islamists have only elected a few parliamentarians and a few local gov'ts. Most of Pakistan is against them. The bombings & other violence & these demonstrations grossly exaggerate their significance. That is why they do it, to create greater influence than they would otherwise have.

877 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:04:21am

MIAMI — Rising gasoline prices have brought a new twist on the state lottery in Florida.

Once a week for the next two months, the second-prize winner in the latest lottery promotion, Summer Cash, will win free gasoline for life. And some people think that is a better deal than the game’s first prize, a quarter of a million dollars.

SNIP

Not that a winner’s right to free gasoline is unlimited. Rather, each winner will be awarded 26 prepaid gas cards, each worth $100, every year until death. Were the 44-year-old Mr. Acosta to win, and live to be twice his current age, the total payout to him in free gasoline would be $114,400. That is far short of the first prize, particularly since virtually all the gas prize would be paid in future dollars.

SNIP

Rubbish. Utter rubbish.

878 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:05:03am

re: #866 MajorPribluda

This reminds me of an old joke. A nice country boy gets a scholarship to Princeton. His first day on campus, he stops another student and asks, "excuse me, could you tell me where the dining hall is at?" The student regards him with icy disdain. "First of all, you should know that a Princeton Man never ends a sentence with a preposition." The country boy thinks about it and says: "You're right, I beg your pardon. Let me say that again. Could you tell me where the dining hall is at, jackass?".

879 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:05:20am

re: #876 Kenneth

I disagree with you. I think that many Muslim women have demonstrated their commitment to giving their babies and wombs for jihad.

880 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:05:34am

re: #875 Lucius Septimius

Yeah.. you just can't trust them.. especially when they're not asking for much and just lookin' for some tush. :)
How's life?

881 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:06:01am

re: #764 opnion

Ya know, you are taking this way to serious. I am just screwing around, Whatever. Go Sox


He'll be like this until his Corvette is repaired.

882 3 wood  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:06:05am

re: #812 Lucius Septimius

So you think the Sox will fall to the Twinks, eh?

Yes.

Jenks has lost a lot off his fastball and judging by hiw arm angle I'm smelling shoulder troubles.

Beurhhe always goes through a stretch where he gets lazy on the mound and tips his pitches (watch his glove, he tends to tip fastball vs breaking ball to the point where I can call then from my couch over the TV), it's about time for Crede to have his annual back injury, Thome looks really old lately (slowing bat), and the league is catching up to their younger players.

883 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:06:15am

re: #878 Occasional Reader

So when were you at Princeton?

884 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:06:17am

re: #814 MandyManners

They're not mothers. They're breeders.

When asked about the necessity of sending men into space Werner von Braun used to joke that a man "is the most reliable navigation and control system we have, and the only one that can be cheaply mass produced by unskilled labor". He was kidding, but it looks like Stan's minions have taken him seriously when it comes to producing guidance and control systems for their weapon of choice - the suicide bomb.

"It were better for him, that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should scandalize one of these little ones. "
-- Luke 17:2

These women had better start to practice holding their breath.

885 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:06:32am

re: #879 WriterMom

I disagree with you. I think that many Muslim women have demonstrated their commitment to giving their babies and wombs for jihad.

I think we're on the same wavelength here. Alot of the opposition to secularism here in Turkey comes from women. I dont know why they fight for the right to be second class citizens or objects.

886 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:06:36am

re: #872 baconeatingkaffir

Like I said in an earlier post, the place is built on a hill and looks like a prison or something out of guns of the navarone. After a certain distance vehicles aren't allowed and there are cameras all over the place. I'm still waiting for the US media to mention that two of the dead gunmen had syrian passports and all of them had long hair and beards. ZZ Top fans.. I don't think so!

What about the killings of Islamist prisoners recently in Syria?

887 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:06:41am

re: #869 WriterMom

Have you heard that stupid song-it's some chick singing about "I kissed a girl, and I liked it". It's on the radio. Must be some idiot producer's threesome fantasy or something. I would die if my kids started singing along to that kind of crap.

I have heard that song - the video is like soft pr0n.

There was a similar song in the 90's - I remember one line:

I kissed a girl, her lips were sweet.
She was just like kissing me

888 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:06:50am

re: #873 WriterMom


That was so whacked

Foshizzle, um, homegirl!

889 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:07:36am

re: #883 WriterMom

So when were you at Princeton?

They "waitlisted" me, the bastids!

890 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:07:37am

re: #884 CIA Reject

These women had better start to practice holding their breath.

Huh?

891 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:07:41am

re: #844 3 wood Thanks!
Someday I'll tell ya about my mentor when I was a kidlet lawyer - he'd been Chief Counsel for Gulf & Western when they owned Madison Square Garden and he convinced them that at least two in house lawyers should be at every sporting event in the Garden (the old one) - so he had owner's box seats, two of 'em - tickets for every sporting event held at Madison Square Garden for over 10 years - including when the Knicks had their championship teams of Clyde Frasier, Pearl, Willis and the boys!

892 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:07:54am

re: #880 baconeatingkaffir

Life is going on. Enjoying a summer without teaching duties for the first time in years. Also enjoying baby number four who's sitting on my lap drooling all over my arm as I type.

Gotta get a towel.

893 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:08:17am

re: #889 Occasional Reader

They "waitlisted" me, the bastids!

I felt worse about the wait list colleges than the ones that outright rejected me.

894 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:08:57am

We now have the nationalities of the people involved in the shooting at the Quebec-Vermont border 2 days ago:

Four charged with shooting of Border Patrol agent

DERBY LINE, Vt. (AP) - Four people have been charged following
an assault on a U.S. Border Patrol agent in Derby Line, near the
Vermont-Quebec border.

Federal prosecutors say two men and a woman from Brazil were
discovered on a street in Derby Line at around 2:15 a.m. Monday.

They say none of them had paperwork to enter the U.S., and when
the agent tried to take them into custody they fled.

The U.S. Attorney's office says the agent tackled one man, who
then assaulted the agent, throwing him over a guard rail. The agent
then fired two shots at the suspects. There were no injuries.

The woman was arrested in Derby Line. The two men were arrested
nearby in Stanstead, Quebec.

895 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:09:41am

re: #893 loppyd

I felt worse about the wait list colleges than the ones that outright rejected me.

I console myself by thinking: They're still in New Jersey.

896 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:10:04am

re: #889 Occasional Reader

Argh. I guess my 'joke' was too sophisticated. I was trying to suggest that YOU were the dude giving grammar lessons.

[THUNK]

897 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:10:36am

re: #885 baconeatingkaffir

Refer to Exhibit A: The Koran.

898 realwest  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:10:45am

re: #871 Lucius Septimius Something about cockroaches being related to Harry Reid - and that they resented it! LOL!

899 Alouette  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:10:50am

re: #688 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Lobsters are related to cockroaches...

just sayin'...

Lobsters evolved from cockroaches.

Cockroaches evolved from Helen Thomas.

900 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:10:55am

re: #895 Occasional Reader

I console myself by thinking: They're still in New Jersey.

LOL!

901 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:11:01am

re: #894 Kenneth

Speaking of unclear grammar... so is that, two men and a woman, all from Brazil? Or two men from ? ? ?, and a woman from Brazil?

902 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:11:31am

re: #888 Occasional Reader

LOL. I'm hip without even trying.

903 loppyd  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:11:35am

re: #899 Alouette

Lobsters evolved from cockroaches.

Cockroaches evolved from Helen Thomas.

Nothing you say will deter me.

I am on a quest for a lobster tonight - and I will succeed!

904 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:11:39am

re: #895 Occasional Reader

I resemble that remark.

905 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:11:47am

re: #868 3 wood

I remember watching the preseason evaluations on ESPN this spring, and I think John Kruk said the Astros had the best lineup in the National League.

I almost fell out of my chair.

Kruk's a dip-shit...that;s why they moved him to the Women's College World Series. That was a disservice to the women...they're better than that.

I hate the fact that just because they played ball and had cases of jock-itch they can be a commentator. Some of these ex ball players need to buy a keg, a box of twinkles and sit on couch and scratch.

906 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 7:12:03am