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Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:09:09 pm PDT

For I have sworn thee fair, and thought thee bright, who art as black as hell, as dark as night.

William Shakespeare

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1 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:09:27pm

McCain 08!

2 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:09:44pm
3 yehoshua  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:10:10pm

too bad for obama he's not really black

4 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:10:27pm

Sort of.

Goodnight all,

5 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:10:45pm

re: #2 Ojoe

That's very nice! :)

6 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:10:57pm

But enough about Obama . . .

Did y'all hear? The U.S. military is a Christian organization now!

7 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:11:32pm

re: #5 gop_patriot

The dome is closing I think ...

8 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:11:32pm

For the evening shift.

I'll been offline until next Monday or Tuesday. Going camping on the WA coast.

Not sure when I'll sign off tonight.

But getting the word out.

9 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:13:05pm

re: #8 jcm

Watch out for bears!

10 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:13:22pm

re: #7 Ojoe

The dome is closing I think ...

Ooh, it did! There was light coming out a minute ago. Don't they sometimes turn it towards the city, isn't LA right below it?

11 Cognito  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:13:31pm

Shakespeare, nice.

12 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:14:15pm

Hey everybody! I'm studying Torah RIGHT NOW! My study partner is currently off checking on a crying baby. There's just enough time to say HI LIZARDS!

13 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:14:34pm

Evening lizards all. Night shift checking in. And I just love that fresh thread smell. BTW Macker if you're here just checked out your radio commercial. Well done scaley.

14 marwan's daughter  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:15:15pm
15 Last Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:15:55pm

KB951748. A pox on both your houses microsoft and zone alarm.

16 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:16:35pm

re: #12 yitzy

Good evening!

*sniff* My 'baby' just turned five... :)

17 Jay777  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:16:36pm
18 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:18:08pm

I have been out of touch today. Has Obama thrown anyone else under his bus?

19 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:18:16pm

re: #9 Wyatt Earp

Watch out for bears!

My sisters bringing her family....
I run faster.
/

20 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:18:22pm

re: #15 Last Man

Problems?

21 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:19:23pm

re: #19 jcm

Ah, using the "buddy system," I see. When a bear comes, throw him your buddy!

22 unclassifiable  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:19:35pm

re: #18 freedombilly

I think the bus finally "high centered" on all of rejects.

23 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:19:41pm

It would really benice that when everybody runs off to the open thread that somebody would say something...like hey hoopster et al. we're over here now../lol
Hey lizards!
what's up?

24 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:20:35pm

Hey Charles, how about some more Keith Jarrett?

25 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:20:41pm

re: #16 gop_patriot

Good evening!

*sniff* My 'baby' just turned five... :)

Howdy! Well, I don't know you or your situation, but are you missing new babies enough to crank out another? B-)

I myself am looking forward to the opportunity to raise a few. Gotta' get married to a nice (politically) Conservative girl.

26 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:20:47pm

Hey, Hoopster, et al . . .

Oh, never mind. You're already here. :)

27 Racer X  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:21:00pm
28 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:21:15pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

I agree with your assessment of this lawsuit. Good grief!

29 Shug  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:21:28pm

Alas poor Reverend Wright, I knew him well

30 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:21:35pm

re: #11 Cognito

It's #147:

My love is as a fever longing still
For that which longer nurseth the disease,
Feeding on that which doth preserve the ill,
Th'uncertain sickly appetite to please.
My reason, the physician to my love,
Angry that his prescriptions are not kept,
I lath left me, and I desperate now approve
Desire is death, which physic did except.
Past cure I am, now reason is past care,
And frantic mad with evermore unrest;
My thoughts and my discourse as madmen's are,
At random from the truth vainly expressed:
For I have sworn thee fair, and thought thee bright,
Who art as black as hell, as dark as night.

Not to everyone's taste, the sonnet cycle. But very much to mine.

31 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:22:18pm

re: #28 gop_patriot

Guy is completely out of his mind, IMO.

32 unclassifiable  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:22:44pm

re: #15 Last Man

I dumped Zone Alarm and Norton AV and switched to NOD32.

33 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:22:53pm

re: #11 Cognito

Shakespeare, nice.

I am also a fan of Silverstein:

You can pick your nose.
You can pick your friends.
But you can't pick your friend's nose.

34 twincitiesgirl  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:22:58pm
35 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:23:07pm

re: #24 freedombilly

I wish he could play some of the Stephen Foster pieces, as he used to. Ah, May the Red Rose Bloom Always is particularly fine.

36 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:23:47pm

re: #6 Wyatt Earp

But enough about Obama . . .

Did y'all hear? The U.S. military is a Christian organization now!

Cool website! I loved the movies.
Support Your Local Sheriff
Support Your Local Gunfighter

37 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:24:11pm

re: #30 Dianna

It's #147:


Not to everyone's taste, the sonnet cycle. But very much to mine.

that is so fleetwood mac...really
/ i'd better put the / there or else

38 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:24:20pm

Good Evening Lizards! It was sultry in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Did you hear about this?

How are you-all this evening?

39 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:24:43pm

re: #32 unclassifiable

I dumped Zone Alarm and Norton AV and switched to NOD32.

I use AVG Free, windows defender, and Spybot Search and destroy. Catch most stuff. Then again I usually practice safe surfing.

40 Lynn B.  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:24:43pm

Hincapie!

41 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:25:11pm

re: #35 Dianna

I prefer Fredric F***ing Chopin.

Sorry. Just a little Doc Holliday humor from Tombstone.

42 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:25:13pm

re: #37 HoosierHoops

You're just not paying attention!

43 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:25:42pm

re: #40 Lynn B.

Hincapie!

Top ten finish today for the "old man". Love me some George.

44 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:26:11pm

re: #25 yitzy

Howdy! Well, I don't know you or your situation, but are you missing new babies enough to crank out another? B-)

I myself am looking forward to the opportunity to raise a few. Gotta' get married to a nice (politically) Conservative girl.

LOL! Married with three, 18, 11, and 5. :) If it was easier for me, I'd have had many more. Three Cesareans is enough, ack! :X

You'll find the right one. Who knows, maybe even a lizard! :D

45 Last Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:26:15pm

Microsoft update KB951748 screws with Zone Alarm and stops internet access. Temp fix is uninstall update or run Zone Alarm on medium. Don't update till latest cluster fuck is fixed.

46 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:27:20pm

Ay, by my faith, the field is honourable; and there was he born, under a hedge, for his father had never a house but the cage.

The scond part of king henry VI
act IV Sc 11
lines 50 -52

47 angst  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:29:26pm

re: #38 ggt

Good Evening Lizards! It was sultry in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Did you hear about this?

How are you-all this evening?

I saw that some of the little towns are dumping their anti-gun laws, but what's up with Chicago?

48 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:29:55pm
When my love swears that she is made of truth,
I do believe her though I know she lies,
That she might think me some untutored youth,
Unlearned in the world's false subtleties.
Thus vainly thinking that she thinks me young,
Although she knows my days are past the best,
Simply I credit her false-speaking tongue:
On both sides thus is simple truth suppressed:
But wherefore says she not she is unjust?
And wherefore say not I that I am old?
O! love's best habit is in seeming trust,
And age in love, loves not to have years told:
Therefore I lie with her, and she with me,
And in our faults by lies we flattered be.

And if that's not the truth, no one ever told it.

49 Last Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:30:11pm

spybot had sucked the big one for some time.

50 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:30:13pm

re: #47 angst

Difficult to have a socialist empire if the population can fight back.

51 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:30:23pm

re: #45 Last Man

Microsoft update KB951748 screws with Zone Alarm and stops internet access. Temp fix is uninstall update or run Zone Alarm on medium. Don't update till latest cluster fuck is fixed.

Thanks for that update. I have been trying for the last 2 hours to figure out why I could not connect to the internet.

The beer is on me Last Man! Thanks.

52 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:30:47pm

re: #41 Wyatt Earp

I like Chopin, too, and Haydn.

53 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:31:50pm

Unofficial opinion poll for Lizards: What do y'all (you plural in Texas) think about your tax dollars being spent on religious beliefs and practices of other people, including criminals and non-citizens? If it is fine or wonderful, let me know. If is is an abomination like certain tax issues in the Colonies in the 1700's, tell me!

If his poll is against Lizard rules, ignore it and have mercy on my feeble memory!

54 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:31:55pm

re: #52 Dianna

I like Chopin, too, and Haydn.

Beethoven would be my one classical composer to take to the desert island.

55 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:32:10pm

re: #52 Dianna

I proudly own Shakespeare's Complete Works. The only book from college that I still own . . . and still read.

And if I ever had a girl, I would fight the missus to the death to name her "Regan."

56 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:32:11pm

re: #31 Wyatt Earp

He does sound like he's had a 'break' of some sort.

57 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:32:59pm

re: #53 Timbre

That's a h@ll of a question. I'm not going to tackle it tonite.

58 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:33:48pm

re: #44 gop_patriot

LOL! Married with three, 18, 11, and 5. :) If it was easier for me, I'd have had many more. Three Cesareans is enough, ack! :X

You'll find the right one. Who knows, maybe even a lizard! :D

Oh PHEW! I am SO glad you LOL'd about my post! After I hit the post button, I thought "Uh-oh, what if I got WAY to personal about a touchy subject." I feel much better after your response.

59 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:33:50pm

There was a young man named Dave....

60 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:33:51pm

re: #54 freedombilly

I prefer Johan Sebastian Bach; the fugue fascinates me, and the Brandenburg Concertos are some of the best music ever composed.

61 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:34:51pm

Good evening, lizards.

62 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:02pm

re: #53 Timbre

Unofficial opinion poll for Lizards: What do y'all (you plural in Texas) think about your tax dollars being spent on religious beliefs and practices of other people, including criminals and non-citizens? If it is fine or wonderful, let me know. If is is an abomination like certain tax issues in the Colonies in the 1700's, tell me!

If his poll is against Lizard rules, ignore it and have mercy on my feeble memory!

If the government has assumed custody of someone by putting him in prison, then the government has taken on the responsibility of tending to his needs, and that includes his spiritual needs.

63 Roentgen  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:06pm

re: #52 Dianna

I like Chopin, too, and Haydn.

Oui, oui. When we go to ze store, we take our Chopin Liszt.

64 angst  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:26pm

re: #50 ggt

Difficult to have a socialist empire if the population can fight back.

Yeah, and now Obama wants a giant national paramilitary force. If that's not frightening I'm not sure what is.

65 cutestguy[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:48pm
66 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:52pm

re: #64 angst

Bingo!

67 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:35:54pm

re: #57 ggt

Well mark it and send me your thoughts, secure e-mail if necessary. I value your opinion, because you always use facts and logic.

68 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:36:53pm

Dianna, my friend, sharing sonnets... Here's one of my favorites:

Is it thy will, thy image should keep open
My heavy eyelids to the weary night?
Dost thou desire my slumbers should be broken,
While shadows like to thee do mock my sight?
Is it thy spirit that thou send'st from thee
So far from home into my deeds to pry,
To find out shames and idle hours in me,
The scope and tenor of thy jealousy?
O, no! thy love, though much, is not so great:
It is my love that keeps mine eye awake:
Mine own true love that doth my rest defeat,
To play the watchman ever for thy sake:
For thee watch I, whilst thou dost wake elsewhere,
From me far off, with others all too near.

69 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:37:04pm

re: #67 Timbre

Thanks for the facts and logic notation. I'd like to know more as to why you are posing the question.

70 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:37:31pm

re: #61 MarineMomSue

Good evening, lizards.

Evening, I take it from your avatar you have 2 USMC sons?
God bless you and your sons.

71 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:37:45pm

re: #36 jcm

Cool website! I loved the movies.
Support Your Local Sheriff
Support Your Local Gunfighter


--Why, if I'd pulled the trigger the danged thing would have blown up in my face. --Well, it wouldn't have done my finger a bit of good either.

72 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:38:40pm

re: #58 yitzy

Oh PHEW! I am SO glad you LOL'd about my post! After I hit the post button, I thought "Uh-oh, what if I got WAY to personal about a touchy subject." I feel much better after your response.

:D I knew what you meant, no problem!

Btw, your furniture is gorgeous. And I love the verse carving.

73 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:20pm

re: #70 jcm

Evening, I take it from your avatar you have 2 USMC sons?
God bless you and your sons.

ditto

74 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:28pm

re: #42 Dianna

You're just not paying attention!

you are so correct..this is the hoopsters family's 2nd day in our new house.. and i'm kindof trashed between the moving and the midnight swimming.. WE got a really cool place..I'm happy

75 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:32pm

re: #71 Dustyvet

And now, James Garner is doing Rascal commercials or other such nonsense. Damned shame when your film faves are getting old. I'm 39, and I cannot imagine what life will be like when Harrison Ford leaves us.

76 ggt  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:41pm

Well, Lizards, I'm not on for much longer. Time to sleep.

If realwest shows-up, give him my best.

weet dreams!

77 mikalm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:47pm

re: #59 MandyManners

Did he live in Nantucket?

78 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:39:50pm

re: #71 Dustyvet

--Why, if I'd pulled the trigger the danged thing would have blown up in my face. --Well, it wouldn't have done my finger a bit of good either.

LOL!

Now I'm going to have to watch them again!

79 cliffster  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:40:33pm

re: #62 MandyManners

And who defines "need"? What about a need for weed, or a need for cocaine? How about a need for a supermodel lover? Do we need to spend public funds to make sure those needs are met?

80 Dianna  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:40:55pm

re: #68 Sharmuta

This is a favorite for play, if not for emotion:

Whoever hath her wish, thou hast thy will,
And 'Will' to boot, and 'Will' in over-plus,
More than enough am I that vex thee still,
To thy sweet will making addition thus.
Wilt thou whose will is large and spacious,
Not once vouchsafe to hide my will in thine?
Shall will in others seem right gracious,
And in my will no fair acceptance shine?
The sea all water, yet receives rain still,
And in abundance addeth to his store,
So thou being rich in will add to thy will
One will of mine to make thy large will more.
Let no unkind, no fair beseechers kill,
Think all but one, and me in that one 'Will.'

Truly brilliant, but not appealing.

I'm off to walk dogs and head for bed.

Take care!

81 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:41:24pm

re: #60 Dianna

I prefer Johan Sebastian Bach; the fugue fascinates me, and the Brandenburg Concertos are some of the best music ever composed.

While Beethoven would be my desert island composer, my desert island classical recording would be either the '55 or the '81 Glenn Gould recordings of the Bach Goldberg Variations. He was an absolute genius and I have never heard the piano played the same since his passing.

The difference in the two recordings is truly amazing. One is of a rambunctious young man and the other is of a very introspective older man. The '81 recording of the exact same piece is over 15 minutes longer if memory serves me correctly.

82 angst  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:41:47pm

re: #55 Wyatt Earp

I proudly own Shakespeare's Complete Works. The only book from college that I still own . . . and still read.

And if I ever had a girl, I would fight the missus to the death to name her "Regan."

If ever one needed a study in political duplicity, Marc Antony's eulogy for Caesar can't be beat. "So they are all, all honorable men." The sarcasm virtually drips from the page.

My kids never cease to be amazed by the everyday turns of phrase that originated with Shakespeare.

83 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:42:52pm

re: #62 MandyManners

Since you were the first respondent, just a few adjustments. What is spiritual: praying quietly with a holy book they can buy themselves, or shaking chicken bones out on the floor to divine the future. What about thousands of dollars of grape juice and matzah? What about Islamic books which many of use at LGF consider radicalized and hostile to non-Muslims? Why can't faith-based organizations in the private sector pay for the accouterments?

84 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:43:53pm

re: #78 jcm

A friend of mine posted a clip of one of my faves today. Now, I have to go watch this again!

85 mikalm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:43:54pm

re: #82 angst

My kids never cease to be amazed by the everyday turns of phrase that originated with Shakespeare.

At least they have a sense of origins. I know someone who once tried to read the Bible, but gave up because "it had so many cliches"!

86 unclassifiable  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:44:50pm

Night Lizards.

Say hello to the graveyard shift for me.

Take care of one and other.

87 angst  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:45:48pm

re: #85 mikalm

At least they have a sense of origins. I know someone who once tried to read the Bible, but gave up because "it had so many cliches"!

I can't decide if that is funny or sad.

88 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:45:58pm

re: #72 gop_patriot

:D I knew what you meant, no problem!

Btw, your furniture is gorgeous. And I love the verse carving.

Thank you so much for your kind words!

Did you know that you can sign up on my EMAIL list? Hint, hint, hint...

89 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:46:03pm

anyone see nightline tonight? i normally dont watch it but this is horrifying--undercover reporter travelled to haiti and BOUGHT a child slave for $150--a girl--havent finished the show--but i think i have to go puke now--

90 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:46:29pm

re: #89 mikeymom

Jesus, that is despicable.

91 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:46:40pm

re: #77 mikalm

Did he live in Nantucket?

No. He lived in a cave.

92 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:47:23pm

Gotta' go. The Kid is out of bed which is unusual for him. Later.

93 yitzy  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:47:27pm

re: #75 Wyatt Earp

And now, James Garner is doing Rascal commercials or other such nonsense. Damned shame when your film faves are getting old. I'm 39, and I cannot imagine what life will be like when Harrison Ford leaves us.

Wha huh? Where's Harrison Ford going?

94 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:47:38pm

re: #90 Wyatt Earp

title is how to buy a slave in 10 hrs--the reporter has negotiated for two kids

95 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:48:49pm

re: #93 yitzy

Eventually, I imagine he's going to The Great Beyond. Hopefully, many, many years away, because he's my favorite actor. Just saw Indy 4 and thought, "God he looks old."

96 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:49:17pm

re: #94 mikeymom

What. The. Hell? Can we just nuke Haiti and be done with it?

97 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:49:19pm

re: #89 mikeymom

There's a book out on modern slavery- I read about half of the first chapter at Powerline, and it took place in Haiti. Disgusting stuff, but I have to admit, I'm a bit impressed Nightline is covering this important topic.

98 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:49:40pm

re: #85 mikalm

At least they have a sense of origins. I know someone who once tried to read the Bible, but gave up because "it had so many cliches"!

You're kidding! HAHAHA! OK, really, that's sad... :p

I found a really good book called "It's Greek to Me" that I use with my kids for homeschool. Actually, my church library has it, and we check it out often. A fun resource. :)

99 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:49:51pm

re: #55 Wyatt Earp

I proudly own Shakespeare's Complete Works. The only book from college that I still own . . . and still read.

And if I ever had a girl, I would fight the missus to the death to name her "Regan."

I picked up a complete set of Shakespeare from our local library.

No, They were on sale.
Copyright is 1911 in the books.

100 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:50:02pm

re: #78 jcm

LOL!

Now I'm going to have to watch them again!

I'm trying to find a copy on Ebay...:)

101 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:51:09pm

re: #69 ggt

I can only say I have experience at purchasing religious items for other people with your tax dollars. Lately, many Americans play up the importance of faith-based NGOs who, in my humble opinion, could pay for these items from private contributions and grants. My specialty is religious terrorism, or just criminality. I don't want my tax deductions going to radicals and America haters.

102 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:51:25pm

re: #99 steve

1911? So, John McCain was what, 25? Heh.

103 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:51:31pm

re: #97 Sharmuta

read the same book--but seeing this is horrifiying--dont know if its on abc/nightlines website--i mean it when i say im in tears and want to puke

104 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:52:04pm

re: #70 jcm

Evening, I take it from your avatar you have 2 USMC sons?
God bless you and your sons.

That I do, JCM. At the moment they are on opposite ends of the country, one at 29 Palms, CA the other at Camp LeJeune, NC. It's a blessing to know they are both in the good old USA. Needless to say, I'm incredibly proud of them.

BTW, Have a great time on your camping trip.

105 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:52:23pm

re: #100 Dustyvet

I'm trying to find a copy on Ebay...:)

36 Hours (1965)
Directed by George Seaton. With James Garner, Eva Marie Saint, Rod Taylor. Germans kidnap an American major and try to convince him that World War II is ...


Another great Garner Film...not a classic, but food film...:)

106 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:52:42pm

re: #88 yitzy

Well, I think I shall! I'm going to share the link, also. Hopefully you'll get some business out of it. :)

107 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:53:14pm

re: #104 MarineMomSue

Thank you and your sons for your service and sacrifice.

108 Neo Con since 9-11  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:53:28pm

re: #89 mikeymom

anyone see nightline tonight? i normally dont watch it but this is horrifying--undercover reporter travelled to haiti and BOUGHT a child slave for $150--a girl--havent finished the show--but i think i have to go puke now--

That's awful. He got ripped off. You can get one for a third that price in Sudan.

109 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:01pm

re: #103 mikeymom

I believe you, and I would probably feel the same. It's truly disgusting and sadly it seems no one cares. That's why I think it's good Nightline did this. It need exposure.

110 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:12pm

re: #96 Wyatt Earp

What. The. Hell? Can we just nuke Haiti and be done with it?

Sometimes being a real imperial power and really colonizing and controlling other countries doesn't seem so bad.

111 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:13pm

re: #103 mikeymom

read the same book--but seeing this is horrifiying--dont know if its on abc/nightlines website--i mean it when i say im in tears and want to puke

Pretty sick...buying a child for $150...I'm blown away.

112 Timbre  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:16pm

Gotta get ready to go to work and spend those tax dollars on something!
Have a great Wednesday, July 9, 2009!

113 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:54:23pm

re: #89 mikeymom

Oh, no. :(

114 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:55:00pm

re: #108 Neo Con since 9-11

i know that--and your levity about this is misplaced in my opinion--even if it was sarc

115 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:55:13pm

re: #104 MarineMomSue

That I do, JCM. At the moment they are on opposite ends of the country, one at 29 Palms, CA the other at Camp LeJeune, NC. It's a blessing to know they are both in the good old USA. Needless to say, I'm incredibly proud of them.

BTW, Have a great time on your camping trip.

Next time you talk to 'em tell me thank you.
This guy and his family appreciates what the they do for us.

116 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:55:29pm

re: #103 mikeymom

Please tell me they got that little girl out of there.

117 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:56:42pm

re: #73 jorline

Thank you both. l gladly pass on your sentiments to my sons. I am sure they will appreciate it as much as I do.

118 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:56:59pm

re: #116 gop_patriot

there are tousands of kids--some parents give them away cause they are told they will be schooled--instead these kids are slaves and are beaten on a daily basis

119 jcm  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:58:33pm

Signing off.

See you all in week.

120 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:58:41pm

re: #117 MarineMomSue

Yes, please thank them for me too. :) And, thank YOU too, you obviously did something very right!

121 Cartman  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:58:49pm

re: #110 jcm

Sometimes being a real imperial power and really colonizing and controlling other countries doesn't seem so bad.

/as thousands of leftist heads explode simultaneously

122 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:59:29pm

re: #119 jcm

have a GREAT time--we'll miss you

123 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:59:37pm

re: #118 mikeymom

Like the little girls in Asia, told they're being taken to the city for school or jobs, they end up in brothels. Just turns my stomach.

124 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:59:39pm

re: #119 jcm

Signing off.

See you all in week.

Vacation? If so, have a great trip.

125 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 9:59:59pm
126 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:00:12pm

re: #119 jcm

Bye, have fun and stay safe! :)

127 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:01:20pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

buzz--with all due respect--even sarc about this subject is-well-not appropriate IMHO

128 AZfederalist  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:03:56pm

re: #60 Dianna

I prefer Johan Sebastian Bach; the fugue fascinates me, and the Brandenburg Concertos are some of the best music ever composed.

Second that. The Brandenburgs are absolutely heavenly in composition, complexity, and enjoyment.

129 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:03:59pm

Hi Lizards, a drive-by post. I am watching "John Adams" on DVD. It seems really good.

130 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:04:11pm

Huh, I didn't think it possible for Shakespeare to have known both of my ex-wives! Musta been time-travel or something!

131 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:04:42pm

re: #102 Wyatt Earp

1911? So, John McCain was what, 25? Heh.

Personally I could care less what age McCain is. When I am 71 I will also have a daughter that is 23. ;P

132 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:05:13pm

re: #33 freedombilly

I am also a fan of Silverstein:

You can pick your nose.
You can pick your friends.
But you can't pick your friend's nose.

You can pick your nose.
You can pick your friends.
But you can't wipe your friends on your pants.

133 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:05:41pm

re: #129 rawmuse Hi there - a few lizards watched it live when it aired a couple of months ago, and they all gave it rave reviews!
Enjoy!

134 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:05:43pm

re: #130 realwest

heh! wonder if they would say the same 'bout you, cutie! how ya doing?

135 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:07:01pm

re: #131 steve

Was just joking. I'm absolutely voting for McCain in November. And when my youngest is 21, I'll be 60.

136 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:07:06pm

re: #104 MarineMomSue

That I do, JCM. At the moment they are on opposite ends of the country, one at 29 Palms, CA the other at Camp LeJeune, NC. It's a blessing to know they are both in the good old USA. Needless to say, I'm incredibly proud of them.

BTW, Have a great time on your camping trip.

Hey, I was stationed at both 29 Palms and Camp LeJuene.
Tell your boys Semper Fi for me.

Semper Fi to you too, Sue.

137 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:07:11pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

Makes you realize how overpriced the legitimate adoption agencies are.

/sarc with disgust all around

It's a sick world...what some people will do to make a buck from someone else's misery. I truly don't know how you could live with yourself knowing that you sold a child into slavery.

Time for bed and a good time to kiss my children good night again.

138 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:09:02pm

re: #137 jorline

give 'em an extra kiss for me--ny boys are 30 (gonna be MARRIED on aug 1) and 28-i miss the young child smells!

139 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:09:03pm

re: #135 Wyatt Earp

Was just joking. I'm absolutely voting for McCain in November. And when my youngest is 21, I'll be 60.

;P

taken only as a joke. Sorry if I misconstrued.
When I am 60 my youngest will be 13

140 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:09:54pm

re: #121 Cartman
Hmmm, y'all have mail - again! LOL!

141 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:10:33pm

re: #139 steve

13 when 60? God bless ya!

142 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:11:17pm

re: #139 steve

well, my oldest is 30--did i say about to be MARRIED!---and im only 29--oh wait-- i never was good at math!

143 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:11:29pm
144 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:12:42pm

re: #134 mikeymom
Well they'll surely would and would have a right to, I'm afraid!
Never anyone else involved, it's just that living with me is NOT a day at the beach! LOL!
I'm doing ok - just a little tense cause I gotta go back to see my Oncologist again (regularly scheduled trip, but always anxiety producing!).
How are you doing?

145 jorline  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:12:49pm

re: #138 mikeymom

give 'em an extra kiss for me--ny boys are 30 (gonna be MARRIED on aug 1) and 28-i miss the young child smells!

I'm lucky, I have a beautiful 11 yo daughter and a 14 yo son who still loves to snuggle...only not in front of his friends...lol At 54 they keep me feeling young.

nite all

146 freedombilly  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:13:04pm

Good night, Lizards, from a Hilton in Wichita. Play nice.

147 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:13:54pm

re: #142 mikeymom

My mom still says she's 29 and holding. :)

/is a senior citizen now and still believes that.

148 steve  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:14:09pm

re: #141 Wyatt Earp

Thank you! But she is a handful to say the least. Loves her dad though.
I also have a 16 year old boy and a 19 year old boy.

the oldest wants to be a chef since he was 7 and the middle wants to get into construction.
The wife and I have homeschooled them all.

149 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:14:10pm

re: #130 realwest

Huh, I didn't think it possible for Shakespeare to have known both of my ex-wives! Musta been time-travel or something!

Well, I was once married to the Loch Ness Monster's sister...:)

150 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:14:37pm

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

yeah, ok--big sigh- but- im not in the mood after watching that nightline piece for facts and figures--i'v ve read the books- and looking at a page is not the same as seeing this young girls face and beaten body--didnt mean to jump on ya--friends?

151 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:15:10pm
152 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:16:31pm

re: #136 DesertSage

Hey, I was stationed at both 29 Palms and Camp LeJuene.
Tell your boys Semper Fi for me.

Semper Fi to you too, Sue.

Thanks, Sage. I'm curious, which place did you like better?

153 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:16:39pm

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

I can testify with direct experience to the truth of your points 2 and 5 with domestic adoptions.

154 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:18:30pm

re: #149 Dustyvet ROTFLMAO! I'm gonna have to remember to steal that one from you!

155 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:19:05pm

re: #144 realwest

im ok real--starting to stress a little about upcoming wedding on aug 1-i am a BIG time procrastinator and am realizing how fast time is going--lol--so i spent tonight making lists-we have a lot of out chaos-lolol!of towners coming in--bbq for 30 planned for day after wedding--you know-usual

156 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:19:49pm

re: #136 DesertSage Hey Sage! How are ya doing? We're finally on the same thread at about the same time! LOL!

157 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:20:16pm

Hey ya'll

158 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:20:52pm

re: #157 trigger girlie

Hey ya'll

Aloha Trig. :)

159 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:11pm

Question for Lizards in California

I've heard that it's illegal to drive with headphones on (Mp3 player, etc.)

Can anyone confirm whether or not this true?

I remember this emerging back in the day when everyone starting Sony Walkmans.

160 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:24pm

re: #158 pat

Hey pat!

161 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:25pm

Morning trigger, how's the front desk tonight? Usual amount of crazies?

162 Metal Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:35pm

Shakespeare on the beach.

163 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:21:52pm

re: #159 oh_dude

I thought it was illegal everywhere

164 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:06pm

humm- that came out weird--think i need to go to bedhave another drink

165 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:13pm

re: #155 mikeymom
Ah, {mikeymom} don't sweat it, it'll get done. The only thing that matters is that the bride and groom show up, say they're "I do"s and everyone gets some stuff to eat and lots to drink.
Oh, and music helps! You gonna go with a DJ or are you having a live band?

166 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:46pm

Trig, painting here. Kids room. Lots of patching. Frickin gun nut has more holes from knives and blow darts than a shrunken head in his walls.

167 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:54pm

re: #152 MarineMomSue

Thanks, Sage. I'm curious, which place did you like better?

This time of year, LeJuene is hot and sticky. 29 Palms is hot and dry...and hot. And did I mention hot?

Really, I loved them both. Two completely different environments. One is desert, which is absolutely beautiful. The other is very wooded, but very beautiful also. I loved the coast and the outer banks.

168 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:22:55pm

re: #161 BlueCanuck

Hey, BC :)

The other night a woman got stabbed to death in a parking lot of a hotel next to mine. She walked up to the front desk for help and fell down. The guy is on the run. Yay me...

169 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:06pm

I drive with head phones on all the time. Not turned on. But you can't hear the outside from my car anyway.

170 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:09pm

The LFG story of the Day, maybe of the Week, is the Obama Youth story. That is strange. This guy is supposed to be a bit of a pacifist, yet he wants a massively armed and huge civilian army on American soil. As Charles says "To do what"? I mean, only Americans live here.

I'm seriously concerned about this guy and this ratchets my level of concern to very high levels. We need to get to the bottom of this one.

171 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:33pm

re: #156 realwest

Hey Sage! How are ya doing? We're finally on the same thread at about the same time! LOL!

Hey RW, how did you get on this thread?
:')

172 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:46pm

re: #168 trigger girlie

Holy cow! Do you have a security guard near you? Who has a gun and knows how to use it?!?

173 cliffster  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:48pm

re: #168 trigger girlie

Hey, BC :)

The other night a woman got stabbed to death in a parking lot of a hotel next to mine. She walked up to the front desk for help and fell down. The guy is on the run. Yay me...


Sounds like a reason to work at a different hotel.

174 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:24:53pm

re: #159 oh_dude

Question for Lizards in California

I've heard that it's illegal to drive with headphones on (Mp3 player, etc.)

Can anyone confirm whether or not this true?

I remember this emerging back in the day when everyone starting Sony Walkmans.

True, yes.

175 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:25:12pm

re: #168 trigger girlie

Hey, BC :)

The other night a woman got stabbed to death in a parking lot of a hotel next to mine. She walked up to the front desk for help and fell down. The guy is on the run. Yay me...

I hope you have a Derringer strapped to you pretty leg. Or an AMC .380.

176 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:25:14pm

re: #168 trigger girlie

Wow, so how's the job search going? ;)

/yeah, I know I have a tendency towards gallows humour.

177 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:25:21pm

re: #167 DesertSage
So which did ya like the most?!
a) 29 Palms or
b) LeJuene
?!

178 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:26:15pm
179 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:26:46pm

re: #165 realwest

the kids went with a dj--i guess you missed my asking for songs for our mother/son dance--i dont want sloppy sentimental cause ill be a crying fool anyway-asked for suggestions from lizards the other night--got somelolol good ones and then soem heavy metal goof ball ones--i may go with stevie wonders --you are the sunshine of mty life--son was not sure--may also go w/ time warp-rhps--still searching!

180 jaunte  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:27:35pm

Sorry about that.

181 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:27:45pm
182 victor_yugo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:28:38pm

I ain't Shakespeare, but:

She dwells in serendipitous delight,
With hair of fire and gaze of tempting draw.
The sirens' call that wrecked ships in the night
Still lives, in words that make my breath run raw.
When standing still, she glides yet over me,
And forces me to let my mind take flight.
Within the molded barrier I see
The shrouded secret of her precious sight.
As sweet strains of Ravel float to my ear,
I come to know the tricks desires play;
As my attention easily draws near
Her sweet perfume, my thoughts are far away.
The charms of Eros and sweet Helen's den:
Such yearning tests the strength of many men.

183 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:28:48pm

re: #174 rawmuse

So is it illegal for me to drive with my cellphone headset on? It looks exactly like my MP3 headphones. This doesn't make any sense since they recently outlawed talking on the cell phone with out a headset.

184 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:29:09pm

re: #170 Archimedes
I understand your concern, but really - I think our Defense budget is something like $560 BILLION a year - where the hell is he gonna get the money to fund it?
And besides, if they act up, all we gotta do is send a call for help to the 82nd Airborne, they'll send a platoon and take care of ALL those black shirt, black bow-tied, Black gunmen.
But I are surprised that the MSM hasn't picked up on this.
I mean, suppose McCain said the same thing - he'd be roasting on a slow spit!

185 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:29:12pm

re: #177 realwest

So which did ya like the most?!
a) 29 Palms or
b) LeJuene
?!

I really thought about it, and I honestly can't come up with a favorite.

I'll tell you what, you come out here and I'll take you four wheeling...and we'll talk about it.

186 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:29:49pm

re: #171 DesertSage Good tracker, is all! STILL GOT IT! LOL!

187 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:30:08pm

re: #172 gop_patriot

Nah, no guard, I work completely alone. Freeway on one side, woods on the other. The know it was dom violence tho, and the guy's car was found in Indiana.

188 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:31:13pm

re: #181 buzzsawmonkey

yes-- i know--but some of these old love songs would sound a little incestuous if mother to son-plus i want to dance a little semi-jazzy-jitterbuggy-cha cha-style--sweet patootie from rhps?

189 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:32:12pm

re: #176 BlueCanuck

Wow, so how's the job search going? ;)

/yeah, I know I have a tendency towards gallows humour.

Beats my gutter humor,lol

190 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:32:16pm

re: #163 trigger girlie

Oh didn't know that. I thought it was like the motorcycle helmet law

191 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:32:25pm

re: #185 DesertSage
Good lord, is that you're idea of FUN? Yup, you sure are a Former Marine! LOL!

192 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:32:25pm

re: #183 oh_dude

So is it illegal for me to drive with my cellphone headset on? It looks exactly like my MP3 headphones. This doesn't make any sense since they recently outlawed talking on the cell phone with out a headset.

You look for SENSE in the laws of California?
(I adore the innocent)
Headsets are not allowed while driving.
I am not saying that plenty of people don't do it.

193 victor_yugo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:33:22pm

Another one:

So far away, and yet so near to me
The face of beauty stands to be beheld
That others more encountered get to see
The shine of Helen for whom warriors fell
The mystery of night surrounds her face
A quiet strength, with quiet strength obscured
And guarded with Divine import's embrace
They see a one whom life has not demurred
But oh! to touch the raven's tresses straight
And see the glint of such a lovely smile
A jealousy makes difficult the wait
And makes an eon of a little while
I long to stand within her company...
Anticipation gets the best of me.

194 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:33:43pm

Holy Bag-O-Pus!

I just spent 4 hours trying to get internet access back.

Just got online again!

If you have Zone Alarm... Do Not Install Today's Windows Updates!

It'll take you down -- no internet access unless you lower your firewall to medium!

195 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:34:28pm

re: #154 realwest

ROTFLMAO! I'm gonna have to remember to steal that one from you!

You may send a check to...:)

196 Metal Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:34:47pm
197 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:34:59pm

re: #187 trigger girlie

Well, stay safe! (good thing I'm here to give you such good advice, ha)

/Glad it wasn't a random thing, but wow, poor woman. :(

198 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:35:30pm

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep - I got an early and long day tomorrow!
I hope all of you have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

Goodnight, all.

199 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:35:52pm

re: #194 stevieray

What a nightmare. And you're the third person to mention it!

200 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:36:32pm

re: #194 stevieray

Thank goodness I don't have it one my work or home computer. Few other people have given us the heads up about that.

201 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:37:34pm

re: #187 trigger girlie

Getting distracted here. At least they know who did it, and I hope they catch the rat bastard.

202 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:37:47pm

re: #194 stevieray
WHOA, just saw your post stevieray - is it just Zone Alarm or any anti-virus programs?!

203 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:38:28pm

re: #192 rawmuse

OK so does that piss anyone else off? I try not to think about things like this, but this is going beyond ridiculous.
Being a native of Cali, I am completely appalled at the direction this state is headed (I know that's probably the understatement of the year)

So, we pay the salaries of the politicians in this Nanny state and all they can do is make so many laws that they actually start conflicting with each other.

204 NY Nana  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:38:42pm

re: #170 Archimedes

It is frightening. Just frightening. But I cannot believe that he will win. I think that this schism between Shrill and Hussein will only get worse, and in the end, kill Hussein's chances. The Billaries care more about bringing him down than they care about the Demonrats, and for our country, which should be any candidate for office's first priority. We have 2 of the worst of the worst Dems who have done nothing for our country, and a hero, John McCain,who does care, and also is far more of a man of the people.

205 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:39:07pm

Hurrrrrgh.

How is everyone?

206 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:40:28pm

re: #202 realwest

please e-mail me w/ amy new updates., ok?

207 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:40:45pm

re: #203 oh_dude

There is a serious shortage of civic (and sometimes personal) responsibility going on here, as you can observe.

208 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:41:04pm

re: #203 oh_dude

I heard something on the news about CA is going to start giving new cars a global warming score.
Does anybody no anything about this?

209 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:41:11pm

re: #206 mikeymom
Yep, I will - if there's anything new to report!

210 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:41:46pm

re: #205 laZardo

are you up late--or early? lol--when my son was little- he woke up from a nap and said--hi mom i slept up early!

211 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:42:34pm

re: #208 DesertSage

...Global Warming score?

I get the feeling that I'll be really thankful that I'm most likely to end up in Washington State rather than California if and when I move back to the United States.

212 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:42:53pm

re: #210 mikeymom

I'm in Manila, it's close to 2 PM.

So I'm up middle. (:

213 realwest  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:43:53pm

re: #208 DesertSage
Yeah Sage - while you wuz out Four-Wheeling, that sorry assed excuse for a State Goverment passed a law requiring all vehicles to have a "green" thing pasted on their windows, stating mpg and shit.

Sage, my friend, y'all really do have to get out more! LOL!

AND NOW I'M REALLY GONE!
Hope to get the chance to see you all down the road!

214 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:44:14pm

re: #213 realwest

Cheers, buddeh.

215 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:44:21pm

re: #212 laZardo

ok-- i thought i saw you wiping eye boogers from your eyes when you signed in-

216 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:44:35pm

re: #211 laZardo

...Global Warming score?

I get the feeling that I'll be really thankful that I'm most likely to end up in Washington State rather than California if and when I move back to the United States.

In a lot of ways Washington state is even nuttier then CA.
And it rains a lot.

217 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:44:55pm

re: #194 stevieray

Oops!

I just went back and began reading this thread... y'all already have been told about the fixes.

Shoulda known the lizards would be way ahead of me!

The sad thing is, I usually wait a few days before installing updates for just this reason -- I wait and see if others find problems before I update -- but this time I decided "What the heck" and installed them right away.

Never again!

218 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:45:41pm

re: #192 rawmuse

You look for SENSE in the laws of California?
(I adore the innocent)
Headsets are not allowed while driving.
I am not saying that plenty of people don't do it.

Can you wear a helmet while riding in a car. I can think of a few people that I wouldn't want to be their passenger without one.

219 markie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:45:54pm

77*F in Stumptown, down from the mid-90s so we can do it all again tomorrow.

Between energy and politics the news is just dismal, as nobody seems willing to step up to the plate and really do something substantive (sp?) about either.

I'm going back to my John Wayne movies...except for Hellfighters.

220 Metal Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:46:16pm

re: #208 DesertSage

I heard something on the news about CA is going to start giving new cars a global warming score.
Does anybody no anything about this?

link to story.

221 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:46:25pm

re: #217 stevieray

the words "what the heck" have gotten me in a lot of trouble--and nine computer related

222 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:46:50pm

re: #202 realwest

WHOA, just saw your post stevieray - is it just Zone Alarm or any anti-virus programs?!

That I don't know... just got back online a few minutes ago. I haven't had a chance to check the security message boards yet.

223 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:06pm

re: #184 realwest

I understand your concern, but really - I think our Defense budget is something like $560 BILLION a year - where the hell is he gonna get the money to fund it?
And besides, if they act up, all we gotta do is send a call for help to the 82nd Airborne, they'll send a platoon and take care of ALL those black shirt, black bow-tied, Black gunmen.
But I are surprised that the MSM hasn't picked up on this.
I mean, suppose McCain said the same thing - he'd be roasting on a slow spit!

To me costs are not the issue main issue in this case. They are a trivial side bar. The very fact that he is proposing such a thing is the issue to me. The fact that he put the idea out there and it got past everyone until Charles caught it is amazing.

But the question is still "why"? Why have a civilian force as big and heavily armed as the U.S. military? The kind of societies that have done that in the past are not places I'd associate with freedom and individual rights. One guy mentioned "Brownshirts" and that's not an unreasonable thought.

I'm hoping that Obama is just flat out stupid and this is why he says things like that, but I'm going to take him seriously, because I can't afford to not take him seriously.

224 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:30pm

re: #221 mikeymom

none--PIMF

225 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:31pm

re: #218 elton jon benet

No helmets in a car.

226 vbspurs  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:36pm

re: #208 DesertSage

I heard something on the news about CA is going to start giving new cars a global warming score.
Does anybody no anything about this?

Yes, this is the excerpted report:

OAKLAND, Calif. -- California is making it mandatory for cars to be labeled with global warming scores, figures that take into account emissions from vehicle use and fuel production.

The law requiring the labels goes into effect at the start of next year for all 2009 model cars, though its expected the labels will be popping up on cars in the coming months.

The labeling law forces cars for sale to display a global warming score, on a scale of one to 10, which is based on how vehicles in the same model year compare to one another. The higher the score, the cleaner a car is. The score takes into account emissions related to production of fuel for each vehicle as well as the direct emissions from vehicles.

The score will be displayed next to the already-required smog score, which also rates cars one to 10 for how many smog-forming emissions they emit. For both scores, an average vehicle will have a score of five.

California is the first state of pass such as law, and a similar law will take effect in New York for 2010 model year vehicles. Global warming scores will be included on the state's DriveClean website. [...]

227 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:39pm

re: #216 DesertSage

I don't mind the rain. And at least they don't have a Hollywood.

228 NY Nana  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:45pm

re: #194 stevieray

Holy Bag-O-Pus!

Charles,

A superb nomination for a rotating title!

229 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:47:55pm

re: #225 rawmuse

No helmets in a car.

Ok, I'll stay out of their cars.

230 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:49:44pm

re: #208 DesertSage

Yeah, Larry Elder was talking about it earlier on his local radio show. Again, words cannot even describe the utter stupidity that is in play here.

I've come to the conslusion that California has been infested with Emoticons (Emotional idiots) for some time now and the legislation of this state reflects that.

Hey, I just bought a car with a low GW score. Gosh I feel so good about myself! I am such a nice person!

All the while, millions of Chinese consumers get ready to unleash tons of Co2 into the atmosphere and they couldn't give a rats ass.

As is if the state of California has it's on seperate environment. What a frigg'n joke.

231 vbspurs  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:49:57pm

re: #203 oh_dude

Being a native of Cali, I am completely appalled at the direction this state is headed (I know that's probably the understatement of the year)

I'm not a native of Cali, or anything, but I have to say, I continue to be appalled by the populism of Arnold Schwarzenegger. A dangerous thing, to be nominally right-wing, and populist...

232 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:50:45pm

re: #229 elton jon benet

love your nic--tragic about that lil girl huh

233 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:51:39pm

re: #232 mikeymom

love your nic--tragic about that lil girl huh

Agreed. Her whole life and death was messed up.

234 laZardo  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:52:30pm

re: #223 Archimedes

"Civilian National Security Force? Oh, I...uh...actually meant to say the National Guard."

235 oh_dude  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:53:29pm

re: #231 vbspurs

Nah, most of the smart people here are over the whole Governator thing.

As they would say in Hollywood... "That's soooo last week."

236 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:53:31pm

re: #233 elton jon benet

we had just moved to co--near boulder-when that went down--will never forget the first interview w/police chief referring to her parents as 'john and patsy'--

237 markie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:54:43pm

re: #194 stevieray

Condolences. I used Zone Alarm a long time, until I hid myself behind a router and NoScript, and an anti-Virus application.

238 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:55:14pm

re: #236 mikeymom

Spooky way to raise a kid

239 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:56:06pm

re: #238 elton jon benet

and she will never get justice

240 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:57:44pm

re: #239 mikeymom

as taxfreekiller likes to say--the evil money cult--in this case-in boulder , colorado

241 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:57:45pm

re: #239 mikeymom

Yea, I hope they find that kidnapper soon.

242 equable  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:57:58pm
243 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 10:59:08pm

re: #241 elton jon benet

maybe he's hanging with nicole simpsons killer--2 for 1

244 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:07pm

Would it be politically incorrect to refer to Barack Obama as a "Halfro-American?"

245 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:53pm

re: #244 Alberta Oil Peon

RACIST!

246 elton jon benet  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:00:58pm

re: #243 mikeymom

GMTA. Prolly playing golf somewhere.

247 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:01:44pm

re: #230 oh_dude

Yeah, Larry Elder was talking about it earlier on his local radio show. Again, words cannot even describe the utter stupidity that is in play here.

See, I missed Larry today. I usually listen to him when I can.

I think Arnold has gone bat-shit crazy. I don't know what's gotten into him, he thinks he's going to terminate global warming singlehandedly or something.
This state is getting weirder by the day.

248 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:02:11pm

re: #242 equable

TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's state television says its Revolutionary Guards have tested nine new long- and medium-range missiles in war games that officials say are in response to U.S. and Israeli threats.

Oh for the love of all that is holy. U.S. and ISRAELI threats?!? This from the country whose President and every mullah in it talks about wiping Israel off the map? GAH

/so, can we consider them an imminent threat now?

249 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:03:51pm

re: #201 BlueCanuck

My friend just called to tell me that they caught him in Indiana walkin in the cornfield

250 trigger girlie  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:44pm

re: #244 Alberta Oil Peon

LMAO

251 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:04:48pm

re: #248 gop_patriot

i would LOVE to see one of these missles stray a little of course-say--near one of our ships--near, mind you! what would happen?

252 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:06:38pm

re: #249 trigger girlie

Good news.

253 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:07:25pm

*huff huff huff*

OK... ran around to some forums, and found a few temp fixes until MS and ZA work things out.

Go here to the ZA forums for suggested fixes. I uninstalled the KB951748 update, and things seem ok -- so far.

254 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:08:49pm

re: #249 trigger girlie

Ahh, good. Now if only justice will be served.

255 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:15pm

re: #248 gop_patriot

Oh for the love of all that is holy. U.S. and ISRAELI threats?!? This from the country whose President and every mullah in it talks about wiping Israel off the map? GAH

/so, can we consider them an imminent threat now?



JOEL C. ROSENBERG

War clouds continue to build in the epicenter. Last month in Rome, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed that the United States and Israel would soon be "annihilated," language he had not used so explicitly since October 2005 when he promised to wipe Israel "off the map" and urged Muslims to "envision a world without the United States." This week, his regime authorized a new series of Iranian war games. He ordered the digging of 320,000 graves to bury the enemies of Islam. He is calling for the unification of the Islamic world politically and economically, including the creation of a single currency.

256 Racer X  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:09:38pm

I'm pretty sure - in California you can legally wear only one earpiece from a wired hands free cell phone cord (or mp3 player). Wearing headphones in both ears will result in a citation.

257 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:10:42pm

John McCain says he will not open an office in San Francisco.

258 Render  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:12:33pm

I wouldn't open an office in San Francisco either...

QUICK
AND
DIRTY,
R

259 Racer X  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:03pm

re: #257 rawmuse

Code Pink would just picket out front.

260 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:13:53pm

re: #228 NY Nana

Charles,

A superb nomination for a rotating title!

Aww shucks, Nana -- you're too kind!

261 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:14:12pm

re: #251 mikeymom

re: #253 stevieray

Thank you, I've sent out the warning and this link to family and some friends who might have this problem. :)

262 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:15:20pm

re: #261 gop_patriot

oops, that was to 253 only. lol :p

263 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:17:07pm

re: #251 mikeymom

And NOW I will respond to 251. ;) lol

Don't know know that our guys would love a chance to show how much BETTER they are than the frikkin' Revolutionary Guard?!

264 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:17:26pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

well i dont do that puter speak anyway--but you can talk to me bout something else

265 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:18:28pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

oops, that was to 253 only. lol :p

Too bad... MS could use a few stray missiles whizzing by. Think of them as warning shots!

266 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:20:31pm

re: #204 NY Nana

It is frightening. Just frightening. But I cannot believe that he will win.

Hey, listen, I hope he doesn't win as well, but we don't know that yet. There are so many people out there who are out of sync with reality it's not funny.



I think that this schism between Shrill and Hussein will only get worse, and in the end, kill Hussein's chances. The Billaries care more about bringing him down than they care about the Demonrats, and for our country, which should be any candidate for office's first priority. We have 2 of the worst of the worst Dems who have done nothing for our country, and a hero, John McCain,who does care, and also is far more of a man of the people.

Well, all I care about is that our individual rights are upheld per Thomas Jefferson and the Declaration of Independence, because when we are free we can live. When we are made serfs of the state (taxed and regulated in every conceivable way) all bets are off.

267 mikeymom  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:05pm

well, my fluffy pillow and cat are calling--God bless--

268 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:21:22pm

re: #255 DesertSage

Exactly, to call for a country to be wiped off the map, to say that the US and Israel "will be annihilated", and then to play wargames and test missiles, what else has to happen before we take care of this situation? For all practical purposes, he's declared war on us both!

/I keep hoping and praying that some democratically minded Iranians will rise up and take back their nation, before it comes to that. But I don't know if there are enough of them to do it, or if they have the will...

269 slokat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:42pm

re: #257 rawmuse

John McCain says he will not open an office in San Francisco.

He should set up an office and put paper on the windows and have computer controlled lighting & voice recordings, plus sounds as if it was a busy office, but no employees. And, always locked doors.

Political Urban Guerrilla Theater

...might drive some moonbats over the edge?

...we are in the 17th week of our vigil and the republican staffers have not been allowed to go home, yet. They are worked 24 hours a day, 7 days a week - think of the children! This is what McCain will do to America!

/ ;)

270 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:22:47pm

re: #263 gop_patriot

And NOW I will respond to 251. ;) lol

Don't know know that our guys would love a chance to show how much BETTER they are than the frikkin' Revolutionary Guard?!

*sigh* PIMF- "know know" should be "you know".

271 slokat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:24:54pm

re: #270 gop_patriot

you you, now now, know know, no no?

272 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:25:05pm

re: #256 Racer X

I'm pretty sure - in California you can legally wear only one earpiece from a wired hands free cell phone cord (or mp3 player). Wearing headphones in both ears will result in a citation.

I know the intent is to prevent vehicle operators from blocking out the sounds of car horns and of sirens on emergency vehicles. But in modern, quiet, air-conditioned cars, the sound of the outside world is pretty well blocked out anyway, especially if you really have the tunes cranked up.

This could easily be solved by technology. Simply have all car horns, and all emergency vehicle sirens, emit, in tandem with the audible sound, a radio-frequency signal on a designated channel. All new cars could be built with an always-on receiver tuned to this channel, and it would be wired to over-ride the car's own sound system at a high level. Private vehicles would be equipped with very low-power RF transmitters coupled to the horns, so it would only break through the receiver squelch on other vehicles in very close proximity. Big trucks and railroad locomotives would be permitted more power, because they pose a greater danger to a daydreaming motorist. And emergency vehicles would be allowed the maximum power needed to do the job.

If directional antennas were used, you could even have a little graphic on the dash to pinpoint the direction from which the warning signal was coming. This would be a big help to me, as I have a hard time fixing the direction of sounds like emergency vehicle sirens.

None of this would cost an arm and a leg to implement, and it would be easy to design an accessory system to retro-fit existing cars.

273 NY Nana  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:25:58pm

re: #260 stevieray

you're too kind!

And you're way too funny, Stevie! That made my day. And now I am off to sleep, perchance to dream.

That really would be a great rotating title, BTW.

G'nite, lizards! Sweet dreams.

274 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:25:59pm

re: #265 stevieray

LOL! My personal missile shot at MS was when I bought a Mac.

/Although, didn't give them much of a warning... I don't think swearing at my PC counts since they couldn't hear me. ;)

275 Alberta Oil Peon  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:27:50pm

re: #274 gop_patriot

LOL! My personal missile shot at MS was when I bought a Mac.

/Although, didn't give them much of a warning... I don't think swearing at my PC counts since they couldn't hear me. ;)

I understand Bill Gates is retiring. Maybe all that swearing got to him at last.

276 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:28:57pm

re: #271 slokat

*snicker* You'd think I was drinking, looking at my posts tonight. But it's just caffeine and antihistamines. I am buzzing. lol

277 MarineMomSue  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:30:24pm

re: #248 gop_patriot

Oh for the love of all that is holy. U.S. and ISRAELI threats?!? This from the country whose President and every mullah in it talks about wiping Israel off the map? GAH

/so, can we consider them an imminent threat now?


but, but..maybe we should wait.. you know, just long enough for obama to talk to them. It's probably just a minor misunderstanding anyway. After a good talking to, they'll see that obama is going to CHANGE everything and we will all be safe.
/

278 NY Nana  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:32:19pm

re: #266 Archimedes

And this is a post-9/11 election. No one can really predict, as it has been so weird...but my gut feeling is that McCain will win.

Every time Hussein opens his mouth, more people see that there is no substance...cotton candy comes out of his mouth, and soon disappears, along with his latest flip flop.

Letting his 2 little girls be interview reeks of desperation. Using 2 little kids? Chelsea Clintoon was bad enough, but this?

I still feel that very damaging info will appear on him, but pray it is after their convention to keep Shrill from snagging the nomination. And there is more than enough about the Billaries.

I agree with you, but must get to sleep!

G'nite!

279 profitsbeard  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:33:29pm

Everyone should imprint one Shakespeare sonnet on their synapses.

From memory:

Shall I compare thee to a Summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate.
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May
And Summer's lease hath all too short a date.

Sometimes too hot the eye of heaven shines
And often is his gold complexion dimmed,
And every fair from fair sometimes declines
By chance or Nature's changing course, untrimmed.

But thy eternal Summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow'st,
No shall Death brag thou wand'rest in his shade
When in eternal lines to Time thou grow'est.

So long as men can breathe or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.

Amazes little children, charms nubile maids, and staves off Alzheimer's.
__________________________________________________ ___

(archaic/poetic word: "ow'st" = own)

280 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:01pm

re: #277 MarineMomSue

but, but..maybe we should wait.. you know, just long enough for obama to talk to them. It's probably just a minor misunderstanding anyway. After a good talking to, they'll see that obama is going to CHANGE everything and we will all be safe.
/

My leg just tingles thinking about the obamessiah swooping in and setting the mullahs straight! Someone get me a bottle of water, quick, I'm gonna fall out...

///

281 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:36:29pm

British police tell self-confessed murderer to wait in line.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

What is wrong with those people?

282 freetoken  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:37:21pm

U.S. incapable of attacking Iran - Ahmadinejad

TEHRAN, July 8 (RIA Novosti) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Tuesday that the U.S. was currently incapable of launching an attack on the Islamic Republic, Iranian national media reported.[...]

'The economic, political and military capacities of the U.S. will not allow [U.S. President] Bush to attack Iran," he said.[...]

Ahmadinejad said however that there were no signs of an imminent armed conflict, and labeled the rumors "propaganda."
[...]

283 Metal Man  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:38:27pm

re: #279 profitsbeard

My Father would spout this kinda stuff in German and old English to me growing up. You are right it is impressive.

284 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:39:17pm

I find it interesting that while Justice Breyer and Kennedy search for European law to support their leftist agenda, the Europeans cite the US Constitution to support civil liberties and the common meaning of language. Both of which are again disappearing in Europe. Breyer is a shallow fool, looking for importance. Kennedy is a preening idiot, stroked by the liberal press, easily led to the trough.

285 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:40:25pm

re: #276 gop_patriot

*snicker* You'd think I was drinking, looking at my posts tonight. But it's just caffeine and antihistamines. I am buzzing. lol

depending on your metabolism and which meds, they will do that...

/lurves me some chlorphenaramine 4mg. %-)

286 pat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:40:55pm

re: #281 The Other Les

British police tell self-confessed murderer to wait in line.

[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

What is wrong with those people?

They have entered a world where there is no right or wrong, only conformity. Britain is becoming 1984, hell on Earth.

287 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:42:44pm

re: #284 pat

I find it interesting that while Justice Breyer and Kennedy search for European law to support their leftist agenda, the Europeans cite the US Constitution to support civil liberties and the common meaning of language. Both of which are again disappearing in Europe. Breyer is a shallow fool, looking for importance. Kennedy is a preening idiot, stroked by the liberal press, easily led to the trough.

you are too kind to both of them.

do you ever read Patterico? he's always got good legal stuff: IIRC, he's an ADA here in town.

288 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:43:36pm

re: #279 profitsbeard

In hs, my sr. English/Lit class had to memorize the prologue from the Canturbury Tales, in Middle English-

Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote
The droghte of March hath perced to the roote
And bathed every veyne in swich licour,
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
Whan Zephirus eek with his sweete breeth
Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
The tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
Hath in the Ram his halfe cours yronne,
And smale foweles maken melodye,
That slepen al the nyght with open eye-
(So priketh hem Nature in hir corages);
Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages
And palmeres for to seken straunge strondes
To ferne halwes, kowthe in sondry londes;
And specially from every shires ende
Of Engelond, to Caunterbury they wende,
The hooly blisful martir for to seke
That hem hath holpen, whan that they were seeke.

Wheee. :) I can only remember the first two lines now. LOL

289 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:44:16pm

re: #282 freetoken

U.S. incapable of attacking Iran - Ahmadinejad

Hey Ahmadinejad... wanna bet?

290 profitsbeard  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:45:28pm

re: #286 pat

They have entered a world where there is no right or wrong, only conformity. Britain is becoming 1984, hell on Earth.

Too busy putting Muslim-friendly "booties? on their sniffer dogs, one guesses?

291 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:48:55pm

re: #281 The Other Les

The best part is that comments aren't being permitted for the story. The line used is that legal proceedings are underway. I think they don't want the common man screaming his head off about how useless the police force is making themselves look.

/but they could also be telling the truth about the why.

292 slokat  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:49:00pm

re: #290 profitsbeard

I realize it's not what you are referring to but,

Muslim Friendly Booty?

hhmm, hooker in hajib?

293 stevieray  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:02pm

Goodnight all.

Fried too many brain cells tonight, gotta get some Z's.

294 gop_patriot  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:50:35pm

re: #285 redc1c4

Zyrtec. But it's probably mostly the caffeine. I have had TWO Rt. 44 sweet teas from Sonic this afternoon and evening. :p

295 profitsbeard  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:53:38pm

re: #288 gop_patriot

Which brings T.S. Eliot's "Wasteland" twist of Chaucer to mind:

April is the cruellest month, breeding
Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
Memory and desire...

296 ASU86PE  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:55:25pm

Oh great, the thread starts with Shakespear and no one leads.

I personally liked William's opening lines in the Romeo and Juliet balcony scene. He get's away with "She speaks, yet she says nothing." Get's me in trouble every time.

G-Night

297 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:58:21pm

re: #234 laZardo

Good thought. That's how he'd probably spin it.

298 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 8, 2008 11:59:33pm

re: #286 pat

They have entered a world where there is no right or wrong, only conformity. Britain is becoming 1984, hell on Earth.

time for V for Vendetta

299 victor_yugo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:00:45am

California doesn't have INNOCENCE.

California has IN-NO-SENSE.

300 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:03:09am

Speaking of sonnets, this one has to be my favourite.

Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds...and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of...wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there,
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air.
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the windswept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or even eagle flew.
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.


I read this in HS english class as part of our poetry section. I just happened to have done my first solo flight on my glider scholarship. The way I was able to read it grabbed the class and teachers attention. I still feel it all these years later.

301 WindHorse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:05:07am

re: #300 BlueCanuck

very well done.

302 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:05:15am

re: #282 freetoken

U.S. incapable of attacking Iran - Ahmadinejad

i'll take that bet, and cover whatever he cares to put up.

we might have to outsource the yellow paint, but they're a "gimmie" in the scheme of things. other than manpower, which is finite, their military is for shit, and we can hammer them from at least 3 sides..... and then you take out the C3I.

303 pat  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:06:04am

Nite all.

304 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:06:29am

re: #299 victor_yugo

California doesn't have INNOCENCE.

California has IN-NO-SENSE.

yeah, but we have *really* good wine, great beaches, and the most beautiful women in the world......

(who'd want innocence with all that? %-)

305 pat  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:08:32am

re: #288 gop_patriot

Chaucer was the worst speller among a nation that let anyone make their own spelling rules.

306 victor_yugo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:08:37am

re: #304 redc1c4

yeah, but we have *really* good wine, great beaches, and the most beautiful women in the world......

And the Assembly squanders it all.

307 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:08:49am

re: #300 BlueCanuck

Oh yeah, I forgot the title is "High Flight" by John Gillespie Magee Jr. an American who flew in the RCAF before the U.S. joined in WWII. This page has the poem and his bio.

308 victor_yugo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:11:03am

re: #302 redc1c4

we can hammer them from at least 3 sides

Last weekend, I heard a strategic description of "a war with Iran" as "a third front."

I pointed out to my family that it would not be so. Rather, it would be simply a merging of two fronts (Afghanistan and Iraq) into one.

309 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:13:33am

re: #306 victor_yugo

And the Assembly squanders it all.

i didn't vote for them......

/not that it did any good. %-)

310 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:21:25am

re: #308 victor_yugo

Last weekend, I heard a strategic description of "a war with Iran" as "a third front."

I pointed out to my family that it would not be so. Rather, it would be simply a merging of two fronts (Afghanistan and Iraq) into one.

BlackFive posted that as his patented "exit strategy" from the "quagmire of Irag & Afghanistan"......

the map showed movement from all border areas of the two countries, merging in Iran.....

/w*rks for me

311 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:26:14am

They're still at it.

Grrr...

[Link: www.theneweditor.com...]

312 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:28:22am

re: #305 pat

LOL!

313 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:28:53am

re: #311 The Other Les

Oh, gag.

314 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:35:30am

re: #311 The Other Les

What's with making him look saintly? I swear that this is not going to stop until he gaffs to large to hide or a miracle happens to keep him out of the race.

315 RTLM  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:35:48am

This is rich:

CNN: Rebels proposed peace days before hostage rescue

Alfonso Cano, leader of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, sent a message to his supporters recently proposing talks with the government on an exchange of prisoners and possible peace deal, according to a RCN Radio of Colombia, which revealed the letter in a broadcast Tuesday, and the Bolivariana News Agency of Venezuela.

The message was dated June 28 -- a few days before a Colombian raid freed 15 high-profile hostages that had been under the FARC's control, including former Colombian presidential candidate Ingrid Betancourt and three U.S. defense contractors.

It was not possible to determine whether Cano maintained his position after the raid, the Bolivariana News Agency reported.

/Just give peace a chance!

Dear CNN,
Farc off, you.

316 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:42:34am

re: #314 BlueCanuck

What's with making him look saintly? I swear that this is not going to stop until he gaffs to large to hide or a miracle happens to keep him out of the race.

The bigger question should be why are they obsessed with being identified as some kind of superior being? Like the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas.

I think it derives from a need to be seen as an authority and thus be able to demand obedience from us mere mortals.

317 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:51:34am

Oh frak! Did I just kill the thread?

318 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:52:37am

re: #288 gop_patriot

It was right about this time that Anglish (English) moved away from its Dutch-German pronunciations (roote = rote, long O, not oo, WITH the final e voiced as in rot-uh), yet kept the spellings (as mnemonic hooks?) as in droghte (drought)[drot-uh]...

IF you read it as if it were like modern Dutch, it has meter and rhyme...

319 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:54:47am

re: #316 The Other Les

Wow! "Muster Gas", you iggorant foole...

He was secure in HIS knowledge of your ignorance, wasn't he?

320 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:57:28am

re: #317 The Other Les

Oh frak! Did I just kill the thread?

Ha, better you than me. ;) I was over at Jigzone doing an online puzzle. Again. I'm addicted.

321 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:59:27am

re: #318 Carridine

Yes! We had to say it to the teacher for our grade. With ye olde pronunciation and everything. :) That was the fun of it. It has really good cadence.

322 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 12:59:46am

re: #320 gop_patriot

And after posting, I went for a flight in the oldest flying Boeing!

323 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:00:25am

re: #298 redc1c4

V will have to get back to you on that...

/they don't call him the Epic Fail Guy for nothing...

324 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:00:46am

re: #319 Carridine

Wow! "Muster Gas", you iggorant foole...

He was secure in HIS knowledge of your ignorance, wasn't he?

Well, Ayn Rand used to say that a mental short cut was in fact a mental short circuit. And he certainly zorched himself there.

325 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:01:30am

What a moron.

Seriously, the people could have died. Some officers got sick; what was this fool thinking?

326 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:02:31am

re: #321 gop_patriot

Yup.

And I see you've introduced yet another Olde English-ism, ye...

That y-shaped letter was a since-dropped letter which was pronounced th

as in "Priyee, pass me ye book..."
(Prithee, pass me the book...")
(Pray thee, pass me the book...")

327 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:04:31am

re: #322 Carridine

Cool! I bookmarked it.

re: #326 Carridine

The things I learn in the middle of the night on LGF... :)

328 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:05:47am

re: #325 gop_patriot

I know what he's thinking now. "Man that's the last time I use the same bowl from the hash brownies dude."

/Thank god for stupid criminals.

329 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:05:56am

re: #325 gop_patriot

What a moron.

Seriously, the people could have died. Some officers got sick; what was this fool thinking?

That he was going to mess up some police officers.

When some folks use dehumanizing terms like "pigs" and "fuzz" they're likely to treat those labeled as something less than human.

330 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:06:46am

re: #326 Carridine

Wow, thanks. I didn't know that. I guess I should have guessed though from usage.

331 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:08:33am

re: #330 BlueCanuck

I'll see if I can find a link, Blue... but don't hold yer breath...

Sheesh, a nasty black storm coming in, and I'm still downtown in my 19th-floor office, working...

332 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:09:09am

re: #316 The Other Les

The bigger question should be why are they obsessed with being identified as some kind of superior being? Like the idiot who denied the existence of mustard gas.

I think it derives from a need to be seen as an authority and thus be able to demand obedience from us mere mortals.

they obviously haven't read any history on how that "demanding" has w*rked out previously here in the US........ i'd suggest "Lexington vs. Brits" for starters.......

/can they read?

333 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:11:15am

re: #332 redc1c4

Hmmm... they CAN read, at least in a rudimentary fashion, but they don't seem capable of reading for meaning, if you get MY meaning, get my drift...

334 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:16:45am

re: #332 redc1c4

they obviously haven't read any history on how that "demanding" has w*rked out previously here in the US........ i'd suggest "Lexington vs. Brits" for starters.......

/can they read?

Of course some of them can read. But their bullshit detector is inoperable.

335 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:17:46am

re: #328 BlueCanuck

No kidding, very stupid; he is 18, an adult. He's in deep sh*t.

re: #329 The Other Les

I agree.

336 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:18:56am

In any case I'm going to crash now.

Good night.

337 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:23:36am

re: #336 The Other Les
Some nights more, some with Les
Some are without Les,
No Moore?
No Moor!

338 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:24:44am

Night Les, have yourself weet and geek dreams.

339 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:26:29am

so while everyone is focused on the genius that brought *goodies* to the police station, i'll head over here to the (allegedly) hidden fruit cup fixins......

your cerebellum and cerebral cortex should stand by for what they are about to receive. %-)

/white smoke

340 RTLM  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:36:05am

OT: (/news!)
Iran launches 9 missiles over Strait of Hormouz and Persian Gulf.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Hit something and game on.

(we'll just forget the past 29 years)

341 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:41:47am

re: #338 BlueCanuck

Night Les, have yourself weet and geek dreams.

got a book for ya to find:

Blood Red Snow
by
Gunter K. Koschorrek
(there's an umlat on the "Gunter")

life as a Panzergrenadier on the Eastern Front......

342 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:42:49am

re: #340 RTLM

OT: (/news!)
Iran launches 9 missiles over Strait of Hormouz and Persian Gulf.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Hit something and game on.

(we'll just forget the past 29 years)

if they had thought for even a second that they were gonna hit something, they never would have fired.

343 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:47:25am

Iran ready to talk with US candidates

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that since Iran favors dialogue, it is ready to hold talks with the US presidential candidates before mass media.
[...]
"Last year, I announced in the UN Headquarters at New York that I am ready to talk with Bush about the global issues and now I also declare that I am prepared to debate with the US presidential candidates," the president said.

Asked by Reuters about Iran's stance on nuclear issue, Ahmadinejad said, "Our nuclear position completely is clear: law and justice for all." "We will never withdraw from our positions even by an inch,"

Come'on Hussein...this one's for you!

20 seconds max. That's all the time I'd give Hussein before he'd have his pants around his ankles with Ahmadinejad mounted 'mullah style' riding him around the stage.

Deliverance you can believe in!

Mornin folks... Congress barely scratching it out for single-digit approval; Pelosi & Co. attempting some kind of internet censorship of members and God only knows what else. Not looking pretty.

Not looking pretty at all.

And all in a single days disgrace.

344 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:49:06am

re: #341 redc1c4

I will look it up and put it on my list.

/ever growing and never shrinking.
//I read way too much. ;)

345 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:50:41am

re: #343 aboo-Hoo-Hoo


/CHANGE!

/pouring doubles for all hands and plusing up the fruit cup.

/it's gonna be a loooooooooong year. %-)

346 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:53:46am

re: #344 BlueCanuck

I will look it up and put it on my list.

/ever growing and never shrinking.
//I read way too much. ;)

i read like the rest of the world watched TV.

the usual suspects here turned be on to Brad Thor in the last two weeks or so.

i've already read 3 of his output, and the rest are on order from the PL, hence the sidebar you're referred to.

2/3 through..... it's a good read.

(imho, oc. %-)

347 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 1:57:18am

re: #346 redc1c4

T.V.? What's that? I have one of those beasts in my living room that hasn't been turned on in over 6 months. I watch a little at the GF's but only an hour here or there. Haven't had cable for over five years. The main reason why was for what channels I was viewing the price was too high. Essentially over $50/month for at the most ten channels. But I have been like that most of my life.

/got well known around all the libraries in my home town. Public and school.

348 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

349 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:01:28am

get yer high octane, germ free fruit cup here! fruit cup, we've got yer fruit cup right here!

/white smoke

350 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:02:39am

re: #348 littleoldlady

Morning littleoldlady. Hope you're having a good day.

351 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:03:29am

So, you've got a choice:

red's "high octane, germ free fruit cup" or... fruitcup.

/or ocean front property in Kansas City...

352 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:04:43am

BlueCanuck! :-)

I'm having the darndest time getting out from under.

/gave myself a deadline
//loaded gun at the ready

How's by you?

353 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:05:42am

re: #351 littleoldlady

You got fruitcup...but what about cups of fruit? O_O

354 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:06:41am

re: #351 littleoldlady

So, you've got a choice:

red's "high octane, germ free fruit cup" or... fruitcup.

/or ocean front property in Kansas City...

or, what's likely to be Blue's fav: Pink Lady UFO.

/wtf? CHANGE!

355 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:07:01am

laZardo! :-)

This is a no-whining zone.

;-)

356 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:09:08am

re: #354 redc1c4

Very nice. Just sent my cat scurrying up the stairs....

357 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:11:40am

re: #352 littleoldlady
Undecided today, so lets just say meh. :|

re: #354 redc1c4

Interesting. . . . . . .

358 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:15:15am

re: #356 littleoldlady

Very nice. Just sent my cat scurrying up the stairs....

there's a Southpark joke there....... %-)

359 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:16:45am

re: #348 littleoldlady

Good morning!

re: #354 redc1c4

What the heck was that?! LOL!

360 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:18:50am

Good Morning, class! Today, we will be studying linguistics.

361 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:19:02am

Hey, gop! :-)

362 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:21:07am

re: #351 littleoldlady

So, you've got a choice:

red's "high octane, germ free fruit cup" or... fruitcup.

/or ocean front property in Kansas City...

Oh- I learned THAT lesson!

/Takes a cup of genuine littleoldlady brand Fruitcup™

363 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:21:15am

Ah, thank you for the refreshements!

[scoops up armful of LoL fruitcup]

[collects a hefty redc1c4 with free hand]

[wanders over to table by the stereo]

364 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:21:24am

PIMF -e

365 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:23:21am

re: #363 MajorPribluda

Ah, thank you for the refreshements!

[scoops up armful of LoL fruitcup]

[collects a hefty redc1c4 with free hand]

[wanders over to table by the stereo]

your hand ain't that big..... %-)

366 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:23:22am

::blinks::

[looks around suddenly empty room--checks armpits?]

367 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:24:20am

BBIAW, computer wants to update. Hope we don't have zone alarm on the work computer or we be screwed.

368 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:24:47am

Sharmuta! :-)

/linen napkins provided, free of charge. ;-)

MajorPribluda! :-)

Stereo? Bwahahaha! Somebody as old as I am!

/or Hi-Fi. Remember hi-fis?

369 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:25:04am

re: #365 redc1c4

your hand ain't that big..... %-)

Heh--misspelkled redc1c4 twice, forgot to add "DOUBLE".

Did not scoop up red.

/Uh, how 'bout dem Bears?

370 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:25:16am

re: #360 MajorPribluda

LOL!

I like this one- You Are Dead

371 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:25:40am

re: #368 littleoldlady

Sharmuta! :-)

/linen napkins provided, free of charge. ;-)

MajorPribluda! :-)

Stereo? Bwahahaha! Somebody as old as I am!

/or Hi-Fi. Remember hi-fis?

Remember when 8-tracks seemed complicated?

372 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:25:48am

{littleoldlady!}

Thank you for the linen- I've needed to boost my fiber intake lately. ;)

373 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:28:07am

8 tracks? Heck, I remember spinning 45s.

/Brim full of Asha

374 Ledger1  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:29:02am

re: #282 freetoken

This is not good. Even if Iran can’t develop a 1 ton nuke, a ton of good old TNT can do a lot of damage.

The Tehran TV bulletin Wednesday, July 9, announcing the test-launch of the Shehab-3 missile, one of nine launched from an undisclosed desert location, stressed that with a 2,000 km range it could reach Israel.

DEBKAfile reports: Two other types of missile with shorter ranges were also fired as part of the Great Prophet III war games launched two days ago by Revolutionary Guards navy, air force and ground units. Along with the statement, Guards air force commander Hossein Salami said: "We are ready to defend the integrity of the Iranian nation." Tuesday, the senior IRGC Navy cleric said: If the US attacks Iran, “we will immediately strike back at Tel Aviv. Our first target is Tel Aviv and only then will we attack US shipping in the Persian Gulf.” Monday, a US-UK-Bahrani naval exercise began to drill measures for protecting Gulf oil installations.


Iran tests 2,000 Km, one-ton shehab-3 missile

375 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:30:06am

re: #373 Sharmuta

8 tracks? Heck, I remember spinning 45s.

/Brim full of Asha

i've gotta RCA gramaphone right outside the door here....

and the shellac to play on it, were you dumb enough to do so.

376 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:31:16am

re: #375 redc1c4

i've gotta RCA gramaphone right outside the door here....

and the shellac to play on it, were you dumb enough to do so.

Wow! So when did you acquire that? Right after the rocks cooled? ;)

377 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:32:44am

re: #374 Ledger1

This is not good. Even if Iran can’t develop a 1 ton nuke, a ton of good old TNT can do a lot of damage.

The Tehran TV bulletin Wednesday, July 9, announcing the test-launch of the Shehab-3 missile, one of nine launched from an undisclosed desert location, stressed that with a 2,000 km range it could reach Israel.

DEBKAfile reports: Two other types of missile with shorter ranges were also fired as part of the Great Prophet III war games launched two days ago by Revolutionary Guards navy, air force and ground units. Along with the statement, Guards air force commander Hossein Salami said: "We are ready to defend the integrity of the Iranian nation." Tuesday, the senior IRGC Navy cleric said: If the US attacks Iran, “we will immediately strike back at Tel Aviv. Our first target is Tel Aviv and only then will we attack US shipping in the Persian Gulf.” Monday, a US-UK-Bahrani naval exercise began to drill measures for protecting Gulf oil installations.


Iran tests 2,000 Km, one-ton shehab-3 missile

well, as long as the Iranians are taking a humorous outlook on this, why should the rest of the world get excited......

/good laugh had by all

378 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:33:24am

re: #371 MajorPribluda

Remember when 8-tracks seemed complicated?


8-tracks were complicated. I never did understand how to work those stupid things! Of course, I was only in elementary school at the time; they were gone before I drove a car. LOL I had a cassette player in my land yacht. :)

379 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:34:12am

re: #376 Sharmuta

Wow! So when did you acquire that? Right after the rocks cooled? ;)

we bought it at your garage sale, when you were thinking of going into the home the first time.

/what do the trustees say now? %-)

380 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:35:57am

re: #379 redc1c4

Nah- I'm just a whippersnapper yet.

381 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:35:59am

re: #374 Ledger1

The Tehran TV bulletin Wednesday, July 9, announcing the test-launch of the Shehab-3 missile, one of nine launched from an undisclosed desert location, stressed that with a 2,000 km range it could reach Israel.

DEBKAfile reports: Two other types of missile with shorter ranges were also fired as part of the Great Prophet III war games launched two days ago by Revolutionary Guards navy, air force and ground units. Along with the statement, Guards air force commander Hossein Salami said: "We are ready to defend the integrity of the Iranian nation." Tuesday, the senior IRGC Navy cleric said: If the US attacks Iran, “we will immediately strike back at Tel Aviv. Our first target is Tel Aviv and only then will we attack US shipping in the Persian Gulf.” Monday, a US-UK-Bahrani naval exercise began to drill measures for protecting Gulf oil installations.

I'd love to say his threats are a load of baloney...

382 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:42:25am

Gah, I hate this work computer. Did a restart like M$ said I should, reboot and log back on and that cursed shield is still there. I hope the day guy has proper admin access other wise we have two whole weeks of suck.

/big boss gone for that time.

383 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:45:03am

G8 backs negotiating path over Iran nuclear programme

The Group of Eight (G8) leading industrial countries called Wednesday on Iran to suspend its nuclear programme, but again vowed to try and resolve the issue through negotiation.

‘We express our serious concern at the proliferation risks posed by Iran's nuclear programme and Iran's continued failure to meet its international obligations,’ G8 leaders said in a statement issued at their meeting in Toyako, Japan.

Well..uh yoop...this negotiating stuff with the Mullah's has sure worked-out swell so far. Let's do'er some more.

/Hey there Lol! ;)

384 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:45:13am

re: #381 laZardo

I'd love to say his threats are a load of baloney...

if'n he ain't careful, and someone on our side gets a spine, he's gonna threat hisself to death.

my cats could kick his ass.

385 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:46:26am

re: #382 BlueCanuck

Gah, I hate this work computer. Did a restart like M$ said I should, reboot and log back on and that cursed shield is still there. I hope the day guy has proper admin access other wise we have two whole weeks of suck.

/big boss gone for that time.

format C: and rebuild?

(just tell the boss it was always like that. %-)

386 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:46:43am

re: #370 gop_patriot

LOL!

I like this one- You Are Dead

Somebody posted this last night:

lolcat Bible
.

I particularly recommend Genesis 1 and the lolcat's Prayer.

/Not for the religiously a-humorous.
//Not offensive, unless you find the very idea of religous-themed parodies offensive.
///Cute, actually, unless you hurl at the sight of lolcat.

387 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:48:19am

re: #384 redc1c4

To be honest, unless Israel gets seriously de-fanged in the short term, that kind of missile probably wouldn't make it farther than the West Bank before the AA batteries kick in...

388 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:49:04am

re: #385 redc1c4

I wish, I am so crippled in certain areas that I don't think that is at all possible. It is tempting though. :)

389 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:49:57am

aboo! :-)

Long time no type to!

/stuck under the overpass
//or is that over the underpass?

390 freetoken  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:50:45am

Perks of penance for Saudi jihadis

In a small compound on the outskirts of Riyadh, the Saudi government is exploring new ways to combat extremism.
This is still a prison, run by the Ministry of Interior and housed inside secure premises with high perimeter walls and barbed wire, but the Saudi authorities prefer to call it a "care centre" and refer to prisoners as "beneficiaries".

This is not what you would imagine when you think of a typical Saudi jail.

Inside, prisoners enjoy access to wide-ranging recreational facilities including their own swimming pools, video games and table tennis.

In return for the more relaxed environment, prisoners have to attend religious education classes where Islamic scholars challenge their views.
[...]
Since its creation no-one from the care centre has reoffended.

But the support received by prisoners on their release suggests their reasons for maintaining good behaviour might not always reflect genuine ideological change.
Graduates can typically expect the government to meet the cost of their wedding and have also enjoyed home refurbishments along with new cars.

Recommend read the whole thing.

391 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:53:25am

re: #386 MajorPribluda

I've seen that! Borderline, I'd say. X)

///Cute, actually, unless you hurl at the sight of lolcat.

I lurve me some LOLcats.

392 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:56:15am

re: #360 MajorPribluda
Major, your linkie couldn't slip past the Decency Filter here in Bangkok...

393 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:59:04am

re: #390 freetoken

Perks of penance for Saudi jihadis

Recommend read the whole thing.

i recommend (deleted, to protect my status).

/guess. %-)

394 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 2:59:29am

re: #390 freetoken
Yup. We've known for years (as has KSA) that the Kingdom entered into a Devil's Contract with the extremists, vis-a-vis "We'll FUND you, but you can't DO THAT STUFF here!"

/birds, roost, home... you understand, Token...

395 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:01:20am

re: #360 MajorPribluda

As we say on the wiki next door...

396 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:04:29am

Iran seeks seat on Security Council - Dismisses sanctions on nukes Since we're doing so swell shutting-down the Mullah's nuclear program, let's give'em seat on the Council. Hell, give'em a permanent seat with veto!

yup, yup...yup... That'll show'em!

397 MajorPribluda  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:05:28am

re: #392 Carridine

Major, your linkie couldn't slip past the Decency Filter here in Bangkok...

Hmmm. It could be that the whole site is listed as bad, or that the content of the page is triggering a block. If it's the whole site, then I cold paste the content of the page here (it's not bad). But if there is something in the page which for some reason unbeknownst to me is triggering a block, then you might also have this thread blocked from your view.

Your call.

It's not all that funny. It's just a mish-mash of big words.

398 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:10:23am

re: #396 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I wonder who they'll be squaring off against. Venezuela vs. Guatemala made me quite the popcorn-guzzler.

399 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:18:56am

re: #289 stevieray

we have the ability but do we have the will?

400 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:28:43am

re: #389 littleoldlady

Lol, conflicts - really a bitch. However, the overpass over the underpass is all set-up and ready to go. ;)

401 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:30:09am

re: #397 MajorPribluda
Nah, just wanted to let you know, Major...

And I'm working overtime on some financial reports here in downtown Bangkok, so I don't have time for foolishness nohow...

/danged foolishness, mebbe, but otherwise... :D

402 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:32:41am

I dunno if anyone has posted this yet, but I heard on the radio a few minutes ago that the US consulate here in Istanbul was attacked by some people with machine guns. From what I understand 2 Turkish cops are dead and several wounded. I haven't heard if any consulate people or US citizens were hit.

403 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:34:13am

re: #402 baconeatingkaffir

Just came up on my news feed. Six dead so far.

404 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:35:44am

posted and reported for Charles to find.

405 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:36:17am

Six dead after US consulate shooting in Istanbul

Glad to see thang's are moving right along in Turkey. Only been a day or so since the 'police' rounded-up a couple more generals. Secularists, I believe.

Imagine that?

406 little blessing  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:37:49am

This is sick.

407 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:38:07am

re: #405 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

The Ergenekon affair has been going on for over a year now. Not only have secular retired generals and admirals been rounded up, but so have businessmen, authors, and other enemies of the ruling party here.

408 laZardo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:42:11am

Gonna head home from work. BBL.

409 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:42:19am

re: #403 BlueCanuck

And the BBC page.

410 gop_patriot  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:43:42am

re: #406 little blessing

This is sick.

Yes it is. Vile, disgusting excuses for women.

411 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:46:16am

re: #10 gop_patriot

Pasadena and Los Angeles and lots of other cities are below and to the south.

412 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:53:27am
For I have sworn thee fair, and thought thee bright, who art as black as hell, as dark as night.

— William Shakespeare

I've always liked that quote. I also think it will, about six months after the election, very accurately reflect the mood of all the "undecideds" who vote for BO if (G*d forbid) he should win.

/Good Morning Everybody!

413 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:54:00am

re: #110 jcm

England brought peace and order to an India full of petty squabbling princedoms.

For instance.

414 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:54:30am

re: #412 CIA Reject

Yeah but if BO wins, who will the left blame? They can't blame "the man" anymore. Will they throw him under the bus as well and call him a tool of the establishment?

415 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 3:58:31am

Good Morning Lizard nation! If you are not here, raise your hand.

416 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:01:13am

llll/

417 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:02:31am

re: #414 baconeatingkaffir

Yeah but if BO wins, who will the left blame? They can't blame "the man" anymore. Will they throw him under the bus as well and call him a tool of the establishment?

I think they'll have all the "usual suspects": Exxon, Halliburton, General Motors, and the entire defense industry to spin conspiracy theories on and try to blame.

Also I don't think they'll throw BO under the bus- he's too much of a "useful idiot" to sacrifice after getting him into so high an office. Rather I think the meme will be that Bush so "completely screwed things up" that BO could not possibly "straighten it all out" in one term and hence deserves a SECOND term to finish "fixing" all the things Bush "screwed up".

That's how I see it anyway...

418 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:03:05am

re: #415 opnion

:p~~~~~~

/just another drooling idiot this morning.

419 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:04:11am

The Obama is such a multi tasker. He is now dispensing travel advice.
He is admonishing American tourists to Europe to, "Speak the local language."Have you noticed that his advice is always a slap on the wrist?"

420 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:04:31am

..l., to any moonbats, trolls, or moby's out there the rest of you

;-)

421 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:04:55am

re: #418 BlueCanuck

:p~~~~~~

/just another drooling idiot this morning.

How are things up North?

422 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:05:35am

re: #407 baconeatingkaffir

Erdogan's been moving East, hell, he's a lifer Islamist - all sorts of moves and deals with Tehran. Gul(another Islamist) has been working with Syria. It doesn't take a genius to figure-out who's gunna end-up getting screwed - then there's State and Olmert.

423 Tigger2005  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:06:09am

re: #75 Wyatt Earp

And now, James Garner is doing Rascal commercials or other such nonsense. Damned shame when your film faves are getting old. I'm 39, and I cannot imagine what life will be like when Harrison Ford leaves us.

Good grief, the man's healthy as a horse. We'll have him for another 20 or 30 years at least, if he's not beheaded for insulting Islam with that scene with the Arab swordsman in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

What about all those who have left us...Bob Hope, George Burns, Kirk Douglas, Cary Grant, Gregory Peck, James Stewart, Grace Kelly, Katharine Hepburn, Audrey Hepburn, John Wayne...now what do we have?

424 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:06:15am

re: #415 opnion

*Reject raises hand*

/G'mornin!

425 little blessing  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:07:04am

re: #419 opnion

Would that be Arabic?

/Is he multi-lingual?

426 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:07:47am

re: #422 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Erdogan is a Fetullah Gulen puppet. Speaking of Hodja Efendi, he's not being given a greencard and has to leave the US. Finally, the INS has done something right. I have my fingers crossed over the trial which has been opened to make the AKP illegal and close it down. Most people I know here want the army to take over.

427 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:09:16am

re: #419 opnion

The Obama is such a multi tasker. He is now dispensing travel advice.
He is admonishing American tourists to Europe to, "Speak the local language."Have you noticed that his advice is always a slap on the wrist?"


Speak the local language? Obummer barely speaks English.

428 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:10:54am

More on Obama & language. He said that it is embarrasing that they (Europeans) come over here & speak English, French & German & we go over there & well you know.
I'll bet that our foreign language challenges does not make Michelle proud.
Should it be surprising that French speak French & Germans speak German? A...hole!

429 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:13:30am

Well work has gone to H-E-double hockey sticks as bloody usual. Time for me to get to work and try to sort out the usual mess dumped in my lap. Later all.

430 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:13:45am

re: #425 little blessing

Would that be Arabic?

/Is he multi-lingual?

He is at least Bi lingual. He speaks the Native language of Indonesia..
Now that I think of it , he can also recite the Arabic call to prayer in a flawless accent.
Shouldn't he encourage people in the U.S to learn English?

431 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:16:03am

in europa there is econ benifit to know the lang of the guys on the other side of the hill. and if you are french you might want to understand the german your overlords speak to you in.

In America there is econ. benifit in knowing how to speak both english and spanish so don't be suprised if english speakers learn spanish. can't really see any econ benifit to speaking french.

432 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:18:56am

re: #431 yochanan

in europa there is econ benifit to know the lang of the guys on the other side of the hill. and if you are french you might want to understand the german your overlords speak to you in.

In America there is econ. benifit in knowing how to speak both english and spanish so don't be suprised if english speakers learn spanish. can't really see any econ benifit to speaking french.

Having skills in other languages is certainly a positive.
My point is, that we embarass the Obama's. Scew those two elitist clowns.
Sox won in extra innings!

433 baconeatingkaffir  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:20:00am

re: #430 opnion

No, Obummer should be trilingual. He also speaks ebonics.

434 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:21:51am

re: #433 baconeatingkaffir

No, Obummer should be trilingual. He also speaks ebonics.

He tries , but every time he tries to get down he sounds like a fool.
He has no street cred, but he is fabulous at Hyde Park wine & cheese receptions.

435 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:23:00am

re: #428 opnion

obama comes out of the whole northwestern/u. of Chicago liberal elitist we are better than you Americans crowd. I am often in this crowd sometimes it is hard to hold my tongue. I remember on sept 12 2001 i got to tell off a bunch of NORTHWESTERN U. PROFS when they were all joking how AMERICA deserved SEPT 11TH. one of the reasons my fav college team changes every week during football season (any one playing against N. U.)

436 tats66  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:23:02am

wait a sec.....is that elitist prick O(s)bama saying we should speak the local langauges? Whats HIS take on the expectation that people are expected to speak english when they decide to grace our country, leagally or not? Just curious.

437 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:24:44am

re: #432 opnion

WHITE SOX had to fight like the junk yard dogs they are to win that one.

438 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:25:34am

in my opinion being a junk yard dog is a good thing.

439 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:25:57am

re: #435 yochanan

obama comes out of the whole northwestern/u. of Chicago liberal elitist we are better than you Americans crowd. I am often in this crowd sometimes it is hard to hold my tongue. I remember on sept 12 2001 i got to tell off a bunch of NORTHWESTERN U. PROFS when they were all joking how AMERICA deserved SEPT 11TH. one of the reasons my fav college team changes every week during football season (any one playing against N. U.)


I know of what you speak. Hey, good for you. Telling off those Nortwestern profs had to be really satisfying.
I would not have wanted to sleep that night, but stay up & enjoy it.

440 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:26:34am

re: #437 yochanan

WHITE SOX had to fight like the junk yard dogs they are to win that one.

Party like 05?

441 opnion  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:27:00am

Latrer Lizards. I am off.

442 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:28:19am

re: #417 CIA Reject

As memes and excuses go, that will serve them nicely, CIA...

443 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:29:00am

my son worked at one of the 05 W.S. games and all i got was a f''''' hat.

i told my one FUBS fan son, of course i want the FUBS to make it to the W.S. so we can beat them.

444 vagabond trader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:30:18am

Yeah, we're uncultured louts here in the USA, including of course, our Spanish speaking POTUS. Right Barry?

445 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:33:15am

Good morning all!

446 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:33:22am

Iranian missile test? Does ShortShit want to get blow to smithereens?

447 committed  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:35:08am

Good morning, lizards. What's your take on Obama's latest comment?

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Democrat Barack Obama took issue Monday with President Bush's decision to attend the opening ceremonies of the Olympic Games, saying he would go to Beijing only if he saw progress between the Chinese government and the Dalai Lama.
"In the absence of some sense of progress, in the absence of some sense from the Dalai Lama that there was progress, I would not have gone," the presidential candidate told reporters at a news conference.

Obama previously has called on the Republican president to boycott the ceremonies.

Bush said last week that he will attend opening ceremonies for the games in Beijing next month. Some world leaders plan to boycott the event because of China's human rights record and its handling of unrest in Tibet.

Chinese officials met last week with two envoys sent to Beijing by the Dalai Lama from his exile base in India.

448 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:35:12am

and if the FUBS make it to the W.S. and the CHICAGO WHITE SOX don't unlike some FUBS fans i will not be rooting for the other team even though if the FUBS do win it living with them will be next to impossible.

449 yochanan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:36:37am

re: #446 MandyManners

DON'T STEP IN THE SHORT SHIT.

450 Carridine  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:38:04am

I got an email today, from a friend, called:
"The moment just before the pain starts!"

and you scroll down through a series of pix:

-guy on skateboard, about to smash
-guy gored in leg by bull, seriously deep
-guy about to go over top of fast motorcycle losing front wheel
-guy separated from mountain bike, 3 meters in the air
-Barack speaking befor