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Obama Fans Bitter, Clinging to FISA

Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:40:39 pm PDT

Barack Obama fans are freaking out about their messiah’s flip-flop on FISA, and they’re unloading on him—at his own web site: Barack Obama | Senator Obama - Please Vote NO on Telecom Immunity - Get FISA Right.

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1 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:41:27pm

Well I guess it is true that paper tigers eat their own young.

2 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:42:58pm

But he can cling to his Amendment vote and all will be right with his knucklehead followers.

3 DaMishMan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:43:26pm

I can only hope that the McCain camp will get the onions to take advantage of all the ammunition that the O!bama is giving him. I never imagined I'd ever see a Presidential candidate so vulnerable as the O!bama is...not even John F'ing Kerry was this weak.

4 rwmofo  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:44:10pm

Bad Barack. The ACLU is mad at you now - they'll still vote for you though.

5 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:44:14pm

Heh. Hillary voted against it.

ON TO DENVER!

6 Catttt  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:44:15pm

Oops - I see another chink in the golden armor of the change saint.

7 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:45:18pm

So when does Ralph Nader sail in to claim the netroots?

8 Shug  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:45:22pm

He rode the progressives like a rented mule

HA HA HA

Idiots

9 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:45:32pm

obambi is an egotistical moron.
Hillary handed him his ass by voting NO on the FISA bill
And now has a recommended diary on kos.

10 Mathew1977  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:45:33pm

Obama's dash to the middle has unintended consequences...

11 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:46:02pm

re: #6 CattttNice Youtube site.

12 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:46:14pm

Someone should post on his website "anyone disparaging the messiah obama, will have their phones tapped and movements monitored".

Let all the nuts go nuttier!

13 Tilly  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:46:16pm

Someone give me a tissue....

Change!

14 Mathew1977  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:46:22pm

re: #3 DaMishMan

I can only hope that the McCain camp will get the onions to take advantage of all the ammunition that the O!bama is giving him. I never imagined I'd ever see a Presidential candidate so vulnerable as the O!bama is...not even John F'ing Kerry was this weak.

I hate to say it, but John F. Kerry was also milky white.

15 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:46:23pm

Hmmm, They'll fall in line.
Worshipers always find a way to bend it.
The illogicalmindwarps will be interesting though.

16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:47:01pm

I dont see how that blog helps Barry's kids?

17 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:48:22pm

re: #16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I dont see how that blog helps Barry's kids?

Letting them get interviewed by Access Hollywood is ok though....sheesh!

18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:48:39pm

How long before Barry whines that they just aren't listening to him? Oh yeah, he already is.

19 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:49:05pm

Uh, you know, uh, some have this notion that I, uh, uh am tacking somehow, uh to the uh, right....

20 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:49:26pm

It's surprising to see how little of human nature and politics these leftists understand. They fail to grasp that obama will take any position and reserve the right to CHANGE! his mind at any point all in the course of seeking power.

For a group constantly crying "fascist" at people, they also seem stunningly unaware of genuine fascist tactics when they see it.

21 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:50:02pm

re: #12 VegasRick

Someone should post on his website "anyone disparaging the messiah obama, will have their phones tapped and movements monitored".

Let all the nuts go nuttier!

That's true, they'd go nuts. Like anyone gives a hoot what they're saying.

The biggest conspiracy has always been the fact that there is no conspiracy. Nobody's out to get you. Nobody gives a shit whether you live or die. There, you feel better now?

~Dennis Miller

22 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:50:33pm

I have a question.

If their way is so damn great, why does obambi have to move to the center in order to get elected?

23 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:50:58pm

Fickle is the fawning after a demagog

24 NoSubmission  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:51:18pm

eh. They'll vote for Nader. Good.

25 gymnast  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:51:40pm

Flash! Jesse Jackson to make Obama sing castrato! See Drudge headline.

26 Shug  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:51:46pm

The audacity of the double-cross

27 DaMishMan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:51:46pm

re: #14 Mathew1977

I hate to say it, but John F. Kerry was also milky white.

What has that got to do with anything? I look at all my candidates based on ability and issues. That's why I have trouble with John McCain as my candidate...not as much as the O!bama...but trouble nonetheless. The only thing I can trust at this time that he is that the O!bama is not, is that John McCain will take our national defense seriously.

28 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:51:59pm

FISA will be his Howard Dean "Yeah!". It embarrasses his supporters more than anyone.

29 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:52:03pm

BTW obambi has a 5.2% lead in the RCP averaging poll.

Shouldn't he be way ahead at this point?

30 me  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:52:05pm

what is obama's stand on clitorectomy?

31 Catttt  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:52:16pm

re: #11 lifeofthemind

Nice Youtube site.

:D thanks.

32 wolfie  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:52:30pm

I may be dead wrong about this, but I think every dispute Obama has with the left is going to move him one step closer to the presidency.
The Kos kids are voting for Obama no matter what.

Jackson criticizing Obama? Won't hurt w/ the black vote. Will help a lot w/ the white vote.

Move to the center. Pick things the press will publicize.

(And rest assured the voters have never read all those things in Dreams From My Father about how easy it is to manipulate whites by acting moderate.)

33 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:52:33pm

Wonder what the odds are of Hillary un-suspending her campaign if these things start to actually stick to BHO.

34 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:52:35pm

he is a disgusting opportunist.

35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:52:39pm

re: #22 Typicalwhitey

I have a question.

If their way is so damn great, why does obambi have to move to the center in order to get elected?

Because most of us are too stupid to "get it"

36 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:53:34pm

re: #34 nyc redneck

he is a disgusting opportunist.

As someone put it about the New York Times, they thought they had gone to bed with a virgin, only to wake up next to a hooker.

37 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:53:57pm

Proggies are fun to watch. pass the popcorn.


Isn't it true (in general) that European laws are more liberal regarding the wire tapping of foreign terrorists?

38 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:54:01pm

re: #3 DaMishMan

I can only hope that the McCain camp will get the onions to take advantage of all the ammunition that the O!bama is giving him. I never imagined I'd ever see a Presidential candidate so vulnerable as the O!bama is...not even John F'ing Kerry was this weak.

Heh. I think McCain should congratulate Obama for getting it right. That'll do the trick.

39 me  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:54:19pm

re: #36 vbspurs

As someone put it about the New York Times, they thought they had gone to bed with a virgin, only to wake up next to a hooker.


Obama: "This is not the hooker I went to bed with".

40 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:54:33pm

re: #25 gymnast

Flash! Jesse Jackson to make Obama sing castrato! See Drudge headline.

That was the context of my private conversation and it does not reflect any disparagement on my part for the historic event in which we are involved or my pride in Senator Barack Obama, who is leading it, whom I have supported by crisscrossing this nation in every level of media and audience from the beginning in absolute terms._

If he feels this way then why did he say he wanted to .....?

41 DaMishMan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:55:07pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Heh. I think McCain should congratulate Obama for getting it right. That'll do the trick.

LOL!

42 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:55:54pm

re: #32 wolfie

Yup, agreed. That's why he doesn't give a crap what his progressive base thinks. They are only good for winning the primaries, general elections are won by moderate swing voters.

43 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:56:07pm

re: #41 DaMishMan

LOL!

That's hilarious. If I were a Republican strategist, I'd make SURE President Bush congratulated Obama publicly about his vote.

44 Mathew1977  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:56:50pm

re: #27 DaMishMan

What has that got to do with anything? I look at all my candidates based on ability and issues. That's why I have trouble with John McCain as my candidate...not as much as the O!bama...but trouble nonetheless. The only thing I can trust at this time that he is that the O!bama is not, is that John McCain will take our national defense seriously.

It has to do with everything because when one attacks Obama for his stance on an issue it's easy to brand that person as a racist. It insulates Obama from criticism. It's not right, but it's the truth.

45 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:56:58pm

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Yup, agreed. That's why he doesn't give a crap what his progressive base thinks. They are only good for winning the primaries, general elections are won by moderate swing voters.

Kinda like McCain blowing off the conservatives.

46 Shug  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:56:58pm

Obama : 4 More Years of The Bush Administration


heh

47 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:57:10pm

Poor Obama fans have been on an emotional roller coaster lately...they still have a long ride ahead.

bbl lizards

48 gymnast  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:58:02pm

re: #40 Typicalwhitey

If he feels this way then why did he say he wanted to .....?

Perhaps it's because Obama wants to re-introduce slavery as a graduation requirement for Jr and Sr High Schools?

Unlike my Man, The Reverend Al, Jesse appears to have an envy problem with the Umma Kahuna.

49 flipflop  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:58:17pm

re: #43 vbspurs

That's hilarious. If I were a Republican strategist, I'd make SURE President Bush congratulated Obama publicly about his vote.

No...that would be wrong...that would be politicizing...eh, screw it, you're right. That would be hilarious.

50 wolfie  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:58:39pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Heh. I think McCain should congratulate Obama for getting it right. That'll do the trick.

Somebody send that suggestion to McCain NOW !

51 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:58:44pm

re: #46 Shug

But ObamaHitler doesn't have the same ring to it. Ha!

52 BGOH  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:58:52pm

Barack done us like Bill done Monica. He was riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiidin' dirty!

/

53 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:59:06pm
I'm glad that he [Obama] is, for the first time, asking for a sit down briefing with Gen. Petraeus and I'll be very interested in what his position on Iraq is when he returns," McCain said during a satellite interview with ABC News' Charlie Gibson Wednesday from Pittsburgh.

Watch part of Sen. McCain's interview with Charles Gibson on ABC's World News tonight at 6:30pmET.

"On the issue of Iraq, I am glad he's going for the first time in 900 days," McCain told Gibson, chiding Obama for visiting Iraq once since the war started compared to his eight visits.

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

54 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:59:23pm

re: #45 Russkilitlover

Yeah, sort of. But McCain is different because he started as moderate but had to take a few steps to the right.

55 flipflop  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 4:59:34pm

re: #51 Wyatt Earp

But ObamaHitler doesn't have the same ring to it. Ha!

With a name like Hussein, the joke's built-in.

56 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:00:36pm

re: #49 flipflop

No...that would be wrong...that would be politicizing...eh, screw it, you're right. That would be hilarious.

Talking of hilarious: I love your beer mug pic!

57 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:01:07pm

To all moonbats- Metallica said it best:
Pride you took
Pride you feel
Pride that you felt when you'd kneel
Trust you gave
A child to save
Left you cold and him in grave
I see faith in your eyes
Never you hear the discouraging lies
I hear faith in your cries
Broken is the promise, betrayal
The healing hand held back by deepened nail
Follow the god that failed

58 flipflop  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:01:27pm

re: #56 vbspurs

Talking of hilarious: I love your beer mug pic!

That's just there for errr...anonymity purposes. It's really ginger ale...yeah, that's the ticket!

59 Mathew1977  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:01:35pm

re: #55 flipflop

With a name like Hussein, the joke's built-in.

That is the middle name we should not speak of, you Islamophobic bigot!

60 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:01:42pm

Most libs I know think that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act started with Bush - just like everything else in their lives or in the world they blame on him because the BDS filter blocks out reason. They become curiously quiet when I send them this link.

61 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:02:08pm

re: #54 Killgore Trout

Yeah, sort of. But McCain is different because he started as moderate but had to take a few steps to the right.

Good point. Obama's having problems moving to the middle. For McCain it seems to be just a slide to a comfortable position.
Now if he could just INSPIRE anyone...

62 Dahveed  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:02:16pm

I really am not understanding this. The libs don't want us to protect our country, or the people/corporations that are helping the country out, from groups that want to do harm to us? What exactly do they suggest law enforcement's or the military's tools should be if not to listen in on their conversations. I mean, we broke German and Japanese codes during World War II. Would the liberals be opposed to that kind of intelligence gathering? Would they rather have another 9/11 than doing something to prevent it?

63 Pastorius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:02:17pm

I guess we'll just have to refer them to the title of the previous post here at LGF:

Obama Hipocrita.

The cuckolded are the last to know, aren't they?

64 Thanos  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:02:23pm

He threw them in the gutter like a used [synonym for galoshes]

65 flipflop  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:02:48pm

re: #59 Mathew1977

That is the middle name we should not speak of, you Islamophobic bigot!

Yeah, you're right...I should run right out and make a donation to CAIR. Or not.

66 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:03:40pm

I've read around the net today that some are saying that Obama is just refining his policies.

Just like Kerry refined his policies "I voted against the war before I voted for it" What is it with the dems, they're so A.D.D, they can't stay on point for more than a couple of weeks.

Walter in Golden, Co.

67 Pastorius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:03:52pm

The ways of Obama are foolishness to the Daily Kos.

68 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:03:52pm

re: #12 VegasRick

Someone should post on his website "anyone disparaging the messiah obama, will have their phones tapped and movements monitored".

Let all the nuts go nuttier!

I've already got Hidden Messages.

69 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:04:10pm

re: #64 Thanos

Condom?

70 Pastorius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:04:13pm

Who is the Daily Kos to say to the potter, "Why have you done me thus?"

71 Thanos  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:05:21pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

I've read around the net today that some are saying that Obama is just refining his policies.

Just like Kerry refined his policies "I voted against the war before I voted for it" What is it with the dems, they're so A.D.D, they can't stay on point for more than a couple of weeks.

Walter in Golden, Co.

It's what happens when everything you say and do is driven by the latest from the 24 hour news cycle. Principle, values, and foresight are sacrificed at the altar of keeping the buzz.

72 Mathew1977  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:05:35pm

re: #69 Wyatt Earp

Condom?

I was going to say, 'Jimmie'

73 Pastorius  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:05:38pm

Thanos,

Used Kleenex?

74 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:05:46pm

re: #62 Dahveed

Would they rather have another 9/11 than doing something to prevent it?

The answer has to be "yes".

They will say the Founding Fathers would be appalled...our freedoms are being trampled on by chickenhawks...America should examine what she has done to the world first...they'll say many things.

But they all amount to one thing: they wish to make this country weaker because 1- Bush can never be right, 2- America deserves it.

75 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:06:06pm

re: #73 Pastorius

Five-dollar ho would also apply.

76 wolfie  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:06:51pm

re: #62 Dahveed

You are so right! Breaking those codes was a clear violation of the "right" to privacy! Obviously if you put something in code, you have a reasonable expectation of privacy!
I smell a lawsuit!
Reparations!

77 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:06:58pm

We forsake you
gonna rape you
Let's forget you better still...

78 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:07:35pm

I just saw the video of Jesse.
LOL, he was whispering, head down, right in the mic zone.

79 bill-tb  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:07:54pm

As the Obambi post turtle turns.

FISA bill bitter clingers ... watching in it all go down like a slow motion train wreck.

80 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:08:06pm

re: #78 SasquatchOnSteroids

I just saw the video of Jesse.
LOL, he was whispering, head down, right in the mic zone.

Ooh, damn. Turning on Fox. Thanks for the heads up!

81 wolfie  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:08:40pm

re: #74 vbspurs

That pretty much hits the nail on the head!

82 Shug  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:09:35pm

re: #51 Wyatt Earp

But ObamaHitler doesn't have the same ring to it. Ha!

and you can't call him chimpy or you'll get charged with a hate crime

83 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:09:40pm
84 pegcity  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:09:47pm

re: #62 Dahveed

I really am not understanding this. The libs don't want us to protect our country, or the people/corporations that are helping the country out, from groups that want to do harm to us? What exactly do they suggest law enforcement's or the military's tools should be if not to listen in on their conversations. I mean, we broke German and Japanese codes during World War II. Would the liberals be opposed to that kind of intelligence gathering? Would they rather have another 9/11 than doing something to prevent it?

Yes.

Liberals are all cowards with death wishes.

85 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:10:04pm

re: #83 buzzsawmonkey

Not that's thinking outside the bunker!

86 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:10:33pm

re: #68 Mars Needs Neocons

I've already got Hidden Messages.

What part do you think is "hidden"?

87 Tardis  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:10:43pm

re: #32 wolfie

I may be dead wrong about this, but I think every dispute Obama has with the left is going to move him one step closer to the presidency.
The Kos kids are voting for Obama no matter what.

Jackson criticizing Obama? Won't hurt w/ the black vote. Will help a lot w/ the white vote.

Move to the center. Pick things the press will publicize.

(And rest assured the voters have never read all those things in Dreams From My Father about how easy it is to manipulate whites by acting moderate.)


I have not had a chance to pick up the book. Could you elaborate?

88 Shug  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:11:08pm

re: #83 buzzsawmonkey

Try ObamAdolf.

Sieg Heip

89 Thanos  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:11:22pm

There's sixty three pages of comments to poke through at that link...

muahahahaha.

90 kahall  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:12:08pm

and the Obama supporters make my day once again.

91 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:13:05pm

re: #81 wolfie

That pretty much hits the nail on the head!

Gracias, Wolfie!

...BO'R just ended his segment by saying what LGFers have been saying for a while: if Obama is elected, the claims that America is a racist country (which underpins demagogues' like Jesse Jackson's theories) will be shot to hell.

Yes, and I am conflicted sometimes whether or not I would "let" Obama be elected just to shut those people up. But then I realise that you do not under any circumstances legitimise a person like Obama by making him President. There's too much damage that can be done.

92 Dahveed  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:13:05pm

re: #74 vbspurs

They really are a wonderful group of people. And what's even better is that this group with its suicide pact may have access to the White House for at least 4 years.

93 Bobblehead  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:13:31pm

Well we know this Jesse Jackson kerfuffle will eat up the news cycle this weekend. Bet Hillary is laughing her a** off.

94 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:13:55pm

re: #60 rightymouse

Heh. I didn't know that.

95 Shug  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:14:03pm

re: #93 Bobblehead

Well we know this Jesse Jackson kerfuffle will eat up the news cycle this weekend. Bet Hillary is laughing her a** off.

That would take a lot of laughter

96 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:14:07pm

re: #86 VegasRick

What part do you think is "hidden"?

I'm hoping libs can't figure out the old first word of every sentence code.

97 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:14:08pm

Gotta admit, Obama's kids are durn cute.

(Without regard to the wisdom or morality of using your kids as campaign props)

98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:14:34pm

re: #93 Bobblehead

Well we know this Jesse Jackson kerfuffle will eat up the news cycle this weekend. Bet Hillary is laughing her a** off.

I'm wondering if Rev. Al is going to chime in.

99 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:14:59pm

BO'R now covering the segment with Obama's kids. I'm sure he'll cover that much more fairly than the opposition have with the Bush Twins.

100 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:15:09pm

re: #62 Dahveed

I really am not understanding this. The libs don't want us to protect our country, or the people/corporations that are helping the country out, from groups that want to do harm to us? What exactly do they suggest law enforcement's or the military's tools should be if not to listen in on their conversations. I mean, we broke German and Japanese codes during World War II. Would the liberals be opposed to that kind of intelligence gathering? Would they rather have another 9/11 than doing something to prevent it?

The emails I've received from lib friends are predictable - Bush is spying on AMERICAN CITIZENS! That's what they think and many really do NOT want to know the facts of the matter. Some, though, appreciate the slap upside the head with facts.

101 Bobblehead  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:15:30pm

re: #98 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm wondering if Rev. Al is going to chime in.

Can't wait to hear Rush tomorrow.

102 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:15:32pm

re: #93 Bobblehead

Well we know this Jesse Jackson kerfuffle will eat up the news cycle this weekend. Bet Hillary is laughing her a** off.

She's probably still bitter that the ol' sabotaged loaner airplane trick didn't work.

/I'm kidding, btw

103 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:16:09pm

re: #89 Thanos

There's sixty three pages of comments to poke through at that link...

muahahahaha.

The problem is, none of this is going to change anything. I think most Americans simply make up their mind according to who is put on the front burner by the party.

Yes, folks like us at LGF's spend a lot more time on the issues, but not the general public.

In the voting booth, the thought going through most voters head will be "change" or "terrorism."

My opinion.

Walter in Golden, Co.

104 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:16:29pm

I know why Obama “changed” his mind on FISA.

Imagine this with Lily Tomlin as the telephone operator:

Operator: A gracious good morning. Is this the party to whom I'm speaking, a Mr. Barack Hussein Obama?

Do you know why I'm calling, Mr. Obama?
I work for the phone company. That's right, the phone company.

What do you mean, there's no “The Phone Company”?

Yes, we were split up, but now there are several of us. And we're all upset at you, Mr. Obama.

Over what? Over our immunity.
We just did what the government told us, and now, people want to sue us.

Oh, that's funny, Mr. Obama. You think we should be sued?

Civil disobedience? That's for moonbats, Mr. Obama. Not for big companies that need permits from the government.

Aha. Well, Mr. Obama, we want you to vote for our immunity.

What was that? When what freezes over?

Remember who you are talking to, Hussein. Can I call you Hussein?
We're the phone company.
You know those calls you made to Iran? To a Mr. Amadmanonjihad? I don't think people would like to hear what you promised him, Hussein.

Oh, that's funny. We're not supposed to listen? What would we do for entertainment.
And those calls to a Mr. Chavez of Venezuela? A Mr. Khadaffy of Libya?

A-ha. So, Hussein. I knew we could count on you.
Yes, if you vote for our immunity, those tapes will be destroyed.
-click-
When hell freezes over.

105 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:17:02pm

re: #97 Occasional Reader

Gotta admit, Obama's kids are durn cute.

(Without regard to the wisdom or morality of using your kids as campaign props)

They're an absolutely charming family. What is striking is that Obama made the decision to show the kids off, and IMMEDIATELY afterwards said it was a bad idea.

Jesus, you know, I think Kerry has more conviction than Obama, and that's saying something.

106 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:17:56pm

re: #105 vbspurs

It is rather weird, I agree. It's not like anything untoward happened during the interview, either.

107 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:18:00pm

re: #94 Killgore Trout

Heh. I didn't know that.

Heh. One of my lib friends choked when he read that. lol!

108 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:18:03pm

re: #105 vbspurs

I was for my kids before I was against them.

/Obambi off.

109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:19:03pm

re: #108 Mars Needs Neocons

I was for my kids before I was against them.

/Obambi off.

These are not the kids I knew

110 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:19:13pm

re: #61 SasquatchOnSteroids

McCain is just more principled. That's why he speaks better than Obama when there isn't a script, he's speaking about things he believes while Obama is trying to figure out what he should say. The latter is much more difficult. That being said I don't trust McCain the keep the Bush tax cuts, he voted against them twice and has always been against them. When he says otherwise I just think he's pandering.

111 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:19:23pm

re: #106 Occasional Reader

It is rather weird, I agree. It's not like anything untoward happened during the interview, either.

I think he is so on edge about his flip-flopping that this time he flipped before things even flopped.

Walter in Golden, Co.

112 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:19:36pm

"Change" applies to his whining fans' diapers.

113 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:20:04pm

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

I think he is so on edge about his flip-flopping that this time he flipped before things even flopped.

Walter in Golden, Co.

So he's even indecisive about his flip-flopping...

114 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:20:23pm

re: #109 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

These are not the kids I knew

Under the bus with them!

/Queen of Hearts off.

115 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:21:14pm

re: #113 Occasional Reader

re: #111 Walter L. Newton

I think he is so on edge about his flip-flopping that this time he flipped before things even flopped.

Walter in Golden, Co.

So he's even indecisive about his flip-flopping...

Don't confuse me.

WIG

116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:21:15pm

re: #114 Mars Needs Neocons

Under the bus with them!

/Queen of Hearts off.

The wheels on the bus go round and ..DAD NO!

117 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:21:17pm

re: #106 Occasional Reader

It is rather weird, I agree. It's not like anything untoward happened during the interview, either.

Exactly. Kennedy got a LOT of women votes (which Obama desperately needs to court) because he showed off Caroline constantly. I'm not sure if this latest reversal makes Obama look better or worse, as a politician or even as a father. At least say something like, "it was a good segment, and my girls looked great, but I've reconsidered."

I'm tired of his backtracking and it's only July.

118 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:22:48pm

What the heck is Dick Morris doing in Argentina?

119 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:22:49pm

re: #116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The wheels on the bus go round and ..DAD NO!

I've got nothin.

LOL

120 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:22:53pm
121 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:23:31pm

Dick Morris is calling in to O'Reilly from Buenos Aires... the portenha* hookers must be doing a brisk business.

*too much of a pain in the ass to do "special character" on my Mac laptop

122 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:23:34pm

re: #118 vbspurs

What the heck is Dick Morris doing in Argentina?

A little toe sucking.

123 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:23:34pm

Obama's lefty fans shouldn't fret -- he believes he's voting for a pharmaceutical company...

/but then...

124 Silhouette  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:24:07pm

Just like with Michelle, he thought that he could use them for all positive, and no one would dare question them.

Typical LLL, who thinks free speech means they get the platform and no one can debate or speak back to them. If you exercise your free speech to oppose them, they truly believe they are being "cencored."

125 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:24:10pm

re: #118 vbspurs

What the heck is Dick Morris doing in Argentina?

Are you sure you really want to know?

126 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:24:10pm

re: #120 buzzsawmonkey

Up your nose with a bitter, clingy hose.

127 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:24:35pm

re: #118 vbspurs

What the heck is Dick Morris doing in Argentina?

Looking for dedos del pie a aspirar.

Walter in Golden, Co.

128 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:24:46pm

And you know what each of them is thinking in the back of their brain as they vent on Barry,

"DAMN YOU ROVE. DAMN YOU!"

129 wolfie  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:25:01pm

re: #87 Tardis

There are places in Dreams where he talks about how he learned in college that whites (he means white liberals) will applaud or accept anything if you present it to them in a graceful, mannerly way.
He writes that a black white cannot separate black identity from black rage against whites. He notes that most whites are uncomfortable with that equation, and that the secret to "getting along" is to hide the rage behind a polite, ingratiating facade. He comes right out a couple of times and congratulates himself on his ability to manipulate people.

He had to have written this book before he anticipated running for national office. He'd edit out some of that stuff now, I think.

130 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:25:36pm

More about the Obama kids:

Anyone else catch the Dairy Queen reference? A pointed one to counter the Whole Foods arugula lapsus.

(BTW, I only just went to DQ on Saturday. First time ever. Not much for ice cream, me)

131 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:26:09pm

re: #127 Walter L. Newton

Looking for dedos del pie a aspirarpara olfatear.

(Just call me Sr. Helpful. I mean, Helpfulo.)

132 wolfie  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:26:19pm

re: #97 Occasional Reader

They are just beautiful, I must admit!

133 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:26:56pm

re: #130 vbspurs

Anyone else catch the Dairy Queen reference?

Ooh, nice catch.

134 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:27:00pm

re: #122 VegasRick

A little toe sucking.

Rick, it just dawned on me that you might have believed my blog at face value. Please tell me this isn't true, I wouldn't feel right having fooled you.

135 wolfie  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:27:05pm

Yipes!
Boys going crazy!

bbl

136 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:27:38pm

re: #103 Walter L. Newton

In the voting booth, the thought going through most voters head will be "change" or "terrorism."

I think you have a valid point, I just hope what's running through the mind of the electorate in the voting booth is the utter lack of experience vs. a centrist moderate veteran.

137 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:27:48pm

re: #131 Occasional Reader

re: #127 Walter L. Newton

Looking for dedos del pie a aspirarpara olfatear.

(Just call me Sr. Helpful. I mean, Helpfulo.)

(Just call me Sr. Helpful. I mean, Helpfulo.)

That stinks.

Walter in Golden, Co.

138 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:27:56pm

Kos and the ObamaCONS are nothing in their outrage compared to Rev.Jesse Jackson who said he wanted to "cut Obama's n**s off" in a private comment made in front of a live mic.

This whole damn circus is better than a soap opera.

It just keeps getting better and better.

139 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:28:02pm

BOBBY JINDAL coming up. I know Charles doesn't like his ID stance, but I want to hear the guy a little more before passing judgement.

P.S.: I'm Catholic and have no difficulty reconciling evolution and my religion at all. I'm just not energised by that topic, because I don't get it.

140 Silhouette  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:28:28pm

In politics, it is possible that there is no difference between saying, "We'll stay until the job is finished," and "We'll leave as soon as possible."

Also like the antithesis to King Canute, the LLL think that if they command the tide to go out, and it does within 6 hours, they've won. Likewise, when we actually begin a pullout of Iraq, as we've planned to do from Day 1 when the Iraqi gov was fully fledged, they'll claim victory.

141 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:28:35pm

Obama's getting predictable....
Obama's Next Pivot?

Blogger TigerHawk notes the results of a new Pew Center survey, which shows a dramatic increase in the percentage of Americans who say expanding exploration and production is more important than conservation: from 35% in February (when gas was around $3 a gallon) to 47% in June. Support has risen especially among Obama constituencies: college graduates (up 17 points), Democrats (16 points), independents (19 points), liberals (23 points) and 18- to 29-year-olds (25 points).

Normally you'd expect high gas prices to help the party out of power. But Obama's opposition to increased energy production is a weakness McCain could easily exploit. Durbin's comment may be a signal that Obama will pivot soon.

142 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:28:56pm

re: #136 Sharmuta

I think you have a valid point, I just hope what's running through the mind of the electorate in the voting booth is the utter lack of experience vs. a centrist moderate veteran.

Hi Sharmuta. Nice to meet you. I think that's the first time you ever spoke to me.

Walter in Golden, Co

143 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:29:05pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

Not saying I don't have Big problems with McCain.
But I've got Massive, Earth shattering problems with O and Mrs Sunshine.

It's these 2, I don't have a choice anymore.

144 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:29:23pm

re: #134 Mars Needs Neocons

Rick, it just dawned on me that you might have believed my blog at face value. Please tell me this isn't true, I wouldn't feel right having fooled you.

I am lost.

145 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:29:48pm

T. Boone Pickens has a plan.

146 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:30:24pm

re: #142 Walter L. Newton

Really? I'm sorry, if that's so. I enjoy your comments.

147 WhiteRasta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:30:25pm

re: #138 LeonidasOfSparta

Please tell me there is no way in hell these folks could be elected.....

(I remember saying the same thing about the Peanut Farmer, a hundred years ago....)

148 kahall  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:31:18pm

So I am muddling through the comments over at MyBO.com, laughing my ass off, having a snack and I realize there are no adults posting over there. Good luck with that BO.

149 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:31:31pm

Jindal on -- talking about chemical castration for sex offenders.

150 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:31:52pm

re: #143 SasquatchOnSteroids

Not saying I don't have Big problems with McCain.
But I've got Massive, Earth shattering problems with O and Mrs Sunshine.

It's these 2, I don't have a choice anymore.

McCain has some ideas and plans I agree with and some I dont. I can work with that.

Obama has a whole lot of ideas I completely disagree with no real plan on how to get them done other than repeating "Hope" and "Change".

Its a simple choice. Not a very comfortable one, but a simple one

151 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:33:09pm

re: #149 vbspurs

Jindal on -- talking about chemical castration for sex offenders.

I have to admit, an Indian guy with a Southern accent is kind of... different. Fun, but different.

152 WhiteRasta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:33:18pm

re: #145 vbspurs

T. Boone is a senile idiot, tilting at windmills.

I'll bet his heirs are really pissed at him giving away the family fortune and leaving them to live under a bridge in a cardboard box.

153 lobo91  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:33:53pm

re: #149 vbspurs

Jindal on -- talking about chemical castration for sex offenders.

I'd rather talk about chemical castration of Obama supporters...

154 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:33:59pm

Jindal does seem quite sharp. (First time I've heard him speak.)

155 NoSubmission  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:34:40pm

re: #149 vbspurs

Jindal on -- talking about chemical castration for sex offenders.


The trouble with chemical castration is that it doesn't amputate the mind, where the crime really is born.

156 WhiteRasta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:35:23pm

re: #155 NoSubmission

Frontal lobotomy comes to mind......

157 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:35:37pm

re: #151 Occasional Reader

I have to admit, an Indian guy with a Southern accent is kind of... different. Fun, but different.

Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up. I'm not PC or anything, but I didn't know if it was in poor taste to mention...when I hear Jindal, I just see a Southern man -- his Indian heritage disappears.

(Pre-post clarification: It doesn't matter either way. It's just an interesting phenomenon)

158 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:35:43pm

re: #151 Occasional Reader

I have to admit, an Indian guy with a Southern accent is kind of... different. Fun, but different.

I went on a job interview once, and they told me that the guy they were sending to pick me up from the airport was Chinese. What they failed to mention was that he was born and raised in Mississippi. I'm sure my jaw dropped when he first spoke...

159 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:36:50pm

re: #158 christheprofessor

I'm sure my jaw dropped when he first spoke...

British blacks feel the same way in America, I've been told. Apparently, they get a hard time from...black Americans.

160 WhiteRasta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:37:33pm

re: #158 christheprofessor

Growing up in Jamaica, the first time I heard a Black man speak in a real cockney accent just blew me away!

161 silversmith  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:37:36pm

[Link: my.barackobama.com...]

This person suspects Mr Obama may not keep his word on other issues especially if he becomes President. hmmmm Maybe he is fibbing a bit? Is it possible?

162 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:37:40pm

re: #159 vbspurs

British blacks feel the same way in America, I've been told. Apparently, they get a hard time from...black Americans.

Not surprising. They haven't even been down with the struggle...

163 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:38:23pm

re: #160 WhiteRasta

Growing up in Jamaica, the first time I heard a Black man speak in a real cockney accent just blew me away!

I don't care what color the speaker is, I have a helluva time with Cockney!

164 looking closely  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:40:20pm

re: #66 Walter L. Newton

I've read around the net today that some are saying that Obama is just refining his policies.


Even stipulating that this is true (and it most obviously isn't), it disqualifies Obama to be President.

Obviously any job, including being POTUS, is going to have some on the job training, but like a pilot or surgeon, you want MOST of the learning to have been done BEFORE the job is started, not during or after.

165 WhiteRasta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:41:03pm

re: #163 christheprofessor

Yes.

Also this black gentleman was blown away with the white boy talking to him in broad Jamaican patois.

Bumboclart!

166 Silhouette  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:42:05pm

re: #129 wolfie

He writes that a black white cannot separate black identity from black rage against whites. He notes that most whites are uncomfortable with that equation,

Now, why would they be uncomfortable being told that all blacks who truly know their identity hate them with a rage?

/

Whereas, he is the real bigot for making such a blanket statement about the thoughts of all blacks. I would guess there are millions upon millions of blacks who are quite sure of their black identity, yet aren't racists against whites as he claims they are.

He describes this extreme racism of blacks, and blames it somehow on white racism.

But the racism here is all his own, both his openly stated rage against all whites and his presumption that all other blacks are as bigoted as he is.

167 jcw46  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:42:46pm

Obama throws himself under the bus --- news at eleven.

168 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:43:11pm

Ooh, O'Reilly just mentioned that the hard left is killing Obama on the blogs. I think he reads a certain reptilian blog?

169 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:43:12pm

re: #144 VegasRick

I am lost.

On the Obama blog I made, only read the first word on each sentence. I actually insult Obama and his minions on his blog.

/ok the joke isn't funny when you have to explain it.

170 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:43:43pm

re: #163 christheprofessor

I don't care what color the speaker is, I have a helluva time with Cockney!

I prefer Moira Stuart, our first black national newsreader.

171 WhiteRasta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:43:57pm

There are no black or Chinese or Jamaican Americans.

There are simply Americans.

172 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:45:26pm

re: #148 kahall

So I am muddling through the comments over at MyBO.com, laughing my ass off, having a snack and I realize there are no adults posting over there. Good luck with that BO.

Hey some of us lizards are enjoying our immature posts there.

173 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:45:39pm

re: #165 WhiteRasta

Bumboclart

I have no idea what that means (damn Confederate-centric edumacation!)...

174 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:46:42pm

re: #171 WhiteRasta

There are no black or Chinese or Jamaican Americans.

There are simply Americans.

Obviously you've never been indoctrinated properly at our public schools

175 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:46:49pm

re: #170 vbspurs

I prefer Moira Stuart, our first black national newsreader.

Yes, she has a diginity about her speech and bearing...

176 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:48:12pm

re: #175 christheprofessor

Yes, she has a diginity about her speech and bearing...

I dunno. She needs to say "uh" more.

177 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:49:04pm

Book about Laura Bush's sex life being discussed...from the NYT below.

"In 2004, Ms. Sittenfeld wrote a Salon piece confessing that despite her “flaming” liberalism and disdain for W.’s policies, she loved Laura Bush. She called the first lady “an easy heroine to root for — smart and nice, but just flawed enough (she still sneaks cigarettes!) to remain likable.” She identified with Laura’s omnivorous fiction reading.

In the novel, Alice, tormented by the choices her husband has made about the war that she’s stood by, blurts out to a grieving father that she thinks the war should end. In life, we can only wonder how Laura feels. "

178 kahall  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:49:44pm

re: #169 Mars Needs Neocons

On the Obama blog I made, only read the first word on each sentence. I actually insult Obama and his minions on his blog.

/ok the joke isn't funny when you have to explain it.

Barack Obama is Insane. So are you, you mindless drone. LOL!

179 kahall  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:50:47pm

re: #172 Mars Needs Neocons

Hey some of us lizards are enjoying our immature posts there.

Ahh, I see.

180 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:51:25pm

re: #178 kahall

Ok I guess it is still funny.

LOL

181 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:52:08pm

re: #180 Mars Needs Neocons

As a contrast, I still haven't gotten my approval for my MTVets4McCain Blog.

182 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:52:14pm

re: #29 Typicalwhitey

BTW obambi has a 5.2% lead in the RCP averaging poll.

Shouldn't he be way ahead at this point?

"Whitey"

At this point in 1976, Carter was up by 20-30 Points, in1988, Dukakis by close to 20. Methinks that Election Night 2008 will be a LONG one.

-S-

183 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:55:39pm

re: #176 Occasional Reader

I dunno. She needs to say "uh" more.

In fairness, I only watched about 30 seconds of the vid -- She didn't seem overly "uh"ed at that point...

184 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:58:25pm

re: #129 wolfie

There are places in Dreams where he talks about how he learned in college that whites (he means white liberals) will applaud or accept anything if you present it to them in a graceful, mannerly way.
He writes that a black white cannot separate black identity from black rage against whites. He notes that most whites are uncomfortable with that equation, and that the secret to "getting along" is to hide the rage behind a polite, ingratiating facade. He comes right out a couple of times and congratulates himself on his ability to manipulate people.

He had to have written this book before he anticipated running for national office. He'd edit out some of that stuff now, I think.

That's exactly the opinion I got of him from his "race speech".

185 mattm  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 5:59:59pm
If they voted Yea it means they are traitors and value large corporations and their collegues more than YOU!

If they voted Nea they are patriots trying to safeguard the Constitution!

Unfortunatley Obama voted with the traitors, but he still has to win in November.

Vote for the traitor!

They also misspelled "collegues" and "Unfortunatley." The enlightened B. Hussein Obama supporters.

186 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:00:59pm

Well, from Fox I turn to CNN. Another heads up to those interested, Ingrid Betancourt live on Larry King.

See you guys, later! :)

187 vbspurs  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:01:44pm

Wow, she's live from the Hotel Meurice, I've stayed there!

[Link: www.meuricehotel.com...]

188 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:02:22pm

re: #112 pre-Boomer Marine brat

"Change" applies to his whining fans' diapers.

back...you were say something about AF brats?

189 mean Gene  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:04:30pm

Obama's fans (I mean supporters) apparently weren't listening to him closely enough.
ou don't even notice the sounds of the flips and flops if you're concentrating on the ''uh's'' as Obama speaks.

190 kywrite  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:04:33pm

re: #148 kahall

So I am muddling through the comments over at MyBO.com, laughing my ass off, having a snack and I realize there are no adults posting over there. Good luck with that BO.

And then you realize their vote counts exactly as much as yours does.

191 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:04:40pm

Re B Hussein Obama, all future statements will ONLY be masde after consulting the wind vane and the weather forecast

192 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:05:07pm
193 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:05:25pm

re: #191 grumpy old codger

Re B Hussein Obama, all future statements will ONLY be masde after consulting the wind vane and the weather forecast

and will then be promptly changed according to shifting weather.

194 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:07:01pm

Evening lizards!
Completely off topic: I sighted a car at the store this afternoon with three Impeach Bush stickers (including a giant homemade one in the rear window).
The fourth bumper sticker was "Citizens against UFO secrecy."
I never have my camera when I need it.

195 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:08:41pm
196 Viking6  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:10:43pm

re: #29 Typicalwhitey

Yep he should. I don't personally trust the RCP polls as they do not reflect a true moving average. If you spend some time and look in side the polls that they are using you may find, on more than one poll, a very skewed demographic answering questions that are positioned for a liberal response. I really think that they are tied neck and neck and that Hillary will have a really good point of order when it comes to Denver in August.

197 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:13:30pm

re: #194 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards!
Completely off topic: I sighted a car at the store this afternoon with three Impeach Bush stickers (including a giant homemade one in the rear window).
The fourth bumper sticker was "Citizens against UFO secrecy."
I never have my camera when I need it.

And how did they feel about illegal aliens?

They must have been from Roswell, NM.

198 hazzyday  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:14:16pm

re: #171 WhiteRasta

There are no black or Chinese or Jamaican Americans.

There are simply Americans.

I think in America, we should invent a new racial category called American that refers to anyone with ancestry from two different continents and cultures. Make American mean what it should mean.

199 Viking6  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:14:55pm

re: #123 christheprofessor

Obama's lefty fans shouldn't fret -- he believes he's voting for a pharmaceutical company...

/but then...

and you know what happens to pharmaceutical companies and democrats....heh

200 hazzyday  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:16:23pm

I think Ann Curry is my favorite MSM news caster. I always seem to like her work and presentation.

201 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:17:26pm

re: #183 christheprofessor

In fairness, I only watched about 30 seconds of the vid -- She didn't seem overly "uh"ed at that point...

I was kidding. (That is, in order to sound articulate you're supposed to say "uh" a lot... like a certain someone.)

202 kateca  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:17:30pm

Sharpton on Fox commenting on Jessee Jackson's unfortunate remarks caught on "hot mic"...so it's no nevermind.

Instantly brought to mind when Reagan said (on hot mic) "The bombing begins in five minutes..." The Sharpton's of the world made hay for a month.

How do these hypocrites live with themselves?

203 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:18:55pm

Wow. Michael Steele and Al [spit] Sharpton on Hannity. Sharpton can't disguise the thuggish hatred in his eyes when Steele is speaking.

204 Happy Fun Ball  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:21:04pm

Every time a moonbat's head a splodes, an angel stands up and applauds.

205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:22:31pm

Not going upstairs, hope someone's still here.

I am experiencing some glee with the idea what I said three or four years ago is beginning to come true.

In a nutshell, (many others here have said the same, I'm sure) the closer one gets to the big chair, measures that seemed heavy handed, even draconian begin to make sense.

Protecting America is a pretty big responsibility. It'd make me poop my pants. (Can I say poop here?)

206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:23:57pm

re: #194 Jim in Virginia

Hey Jim! Been a while. Where you been?

207 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:26:09pm

re: #203 Occasional Reader

Wow. Michael Steele and Al [spit] Sharpton on Hannity. Sharpton can't disguise the thuggish hatred in his eyes when Steele is speaking.

Could Steele make the VP short list? I like this guy!

208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:27:04pm

re: #207 jorline

Could Steele make the VP short list? I like this guy!

If he ain't on the short list, they need to lengthen it, then make it shorter again with him on it.

209 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:29:02pm

re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If he ain't on the short list, they need to lengthen it, then make it shorter again with him on it.

I think it would be great, but the press would spin it as his being a token, and Steele doesn't deserve that kind of treatment.

(Of course it will be hard to avoid no matter when we give him a shot, so let' just do it already.)

210 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:30:41pm

re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If he ain't on the short list, they need to lengthen it, then make it shorter again with him on it.

I have to agree with you, FBV. He's very polished, down to earth and not full of political BS.

211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:32:09pm

re: #210 jorline

I have to agree with you, FBV. He's very polished, down to earth and not full of political BS.

You can't agree with me, I was agreeing with you. Don't want to cancel out each other.

212 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:33:34pm

re: #194 Jim in Virginia

Evening lizards!
Completely off topic: I sighted a car at the store this afternoon with three Impeach Bush stickers (including a giant homemade one in the rear window).
The fourth bumper sticker was "Citizens against UFO secrecy."
I never have my camera when I need it.

Probably a Kookchinich supporter, bitter that Obama has the nomination.

213 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:33:52pm

re: #209 Mars Needs Neocons

I think it would be great, but the press would spin it as his being a token, and Steele doesn't deserve that kind of treatment.

(Of course it will be hard to avoid no matter when we give him a shot, so let' just do it already.)

agree...I'm sure Steele could handle the "token" tag very eloquently.

214 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:34:31pm

re: #205 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not going upstairs, hope someone's still here.

I am experiencing some glee with the idea what I said three or four years ago is beginning to come true.

In a nutshell, (many others here have said the same, I'm sure) the closer one gets to the big chair, measures that seemed heavy handed, even draconian begin to make sense.

Protecting America is a pretty big responsibility. It'd make me poop my pants. (Can I say poop here?)

I should be elected, because as President, my job would be to make our enemies poop their pants.

215 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:35:17pm

re: #214 Kosh's Shadow

Eloquence: Thy name is Kosh.

216 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:36:20pm

re: #213 jorline

agree...I'm sure Steele could handle the "token" tag very eloquently.

Oh I agree.

217 jorline  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:36:28pm

re: #211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You can't agree with me, I was agreeing with you. Don't want to cancel out each other.

salt and pepper

lifting my beer mug to you, agreeing with the length of the list

218 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:36:39pm

re: #214 Kosh's Shadow

Vote for Kosh! CHange! Drink!

219 Paul  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:39:04pm

Obama got the moonbats' money but they don't have enough votes; so now he's moving to the "middle" because that's where the votes that get you elected reside.

But what are the heartbroken, disillusioned moonbats going to do? Demand a refund, vote for McBush, Nader or Paul? Nope, they're going to cry and whine and then in November they'll dry their tears and vote straight Democrat. Obama knows this and even the moonbats know it;
like good cadre, they'll do what they are told.

220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:41:37pm

re: #219 Paul
I completely, whole-heartedly and totally disagree. These are the kind of sheople who take their toys and go home when they do not have every little thing they want...no matter how crazy!

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:42:01pm

re: #219 Paul

I hope I'm right...

222 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:44:46pm

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope I'm right...

It sounds about right for their maturity level.

223 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:46:56pm

re: #222 Mars Needs Neocons

We can only hope.

224 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:48:12pm

re: #218 Mars Needs Neocons

Vote for Kosh! CHange! Drink!

Are you saying the enemies of the US should change their underwear?

225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:49:06pm

re: #224 Kosh's Shadow

Are you saying the enemies of the US should change their underwear?

I hope so.

226 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:49:26pm

re: #224 Kosh's Shadow

Are you saying the enemies of the US should change their underwear?

I spent enough time in the ME to tell you it won't help.

227 Paul  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:49:27pm

re: #220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I completely, whole-heartedly and totally disagree. These are the kind of sheople who take their toys and go home when they do not have every little thing they want...no matter how crazy!

A few hard core crazies will sit out the election but I'm fairly certain that the majority will vote. I was surfing the DU before and they're all in an uproar about FISA, but, as one DUmmie stated, "I always vote Democrat and I always vote..." After eight years they're not going to let another Republican get elected.

I'm looking forward to the Democrat convention, it's shaping up to be even more riotous than I anticipated.

228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 6:51:05pm

re: #227 Paul

Yeah buddie...I whole-heartedly agree with that!

229 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 8:16:09pm

re: #147 WhiteRasta

I know! Imagine a man from Georgia who decides foreign policy based on his 8 year old daughter, Amy.
It's the good ship lollypop -- but MORE SINISTER!

The Obaminable Snowjob man should not be elected as dogcatcher, let aloneto the SENATE-- and now he's shoveling his way to the Oval Office.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

230 LeonidasOfSparta  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 8:20:52pm

re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

amen. I enjoy listening to Michael Steele and his views. He has the necessary quotient of common sense (which is no longer common), is naturally amiable, and has great humour which are an unbeatable, inperturbable combination, against such nitwits as Al Less than Sharp-ton and Jesse NutCutter Jackson.

231 rorschach  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 8:23:07pm
Senator Obama, please vote no on telecom immunity.


We wouldn't want to give the American people an unfair advantage against the terrorists now, would we?

232 freedombilly  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 8:46:39pm

This is getting fun!

233 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 9:08:56pm

I'm tired, goodnight all.

234 Steffan  Wed, Jul 9, 2008 10:49:06pm

re: #139 vbspurs

BOBBY JINDAL coming up. I know Charles doesn't like his ID stance, but I want to hear the guy a little more before passing judgement.

P.S.: I'm Catholic and have no difficulty reconciling evolution and my religion at all. I'm just not energised by that topic, because I don't get it.

I have no problem reconciling science and religion, as long as they don't try to hide the religious part the way these ID morons try to do. In his "Incarnations of Immortality" series, Piers Anthony pointed out that the Bible doesn't specify just how God created the world. For all we know, He could have used the primordial soup and evolution to get where we are.

I'd bet that's an idea that the Jesuits would find entertaining... :)

235 Boxy_brown  Fri, Jul 11, 2008 1:57:17am

Obama lied, Bush Spied!

Coming to a moonbats protest sign soon.

Heh...

236 Sacred Plants  Fri, Jul 11, 2008 6:58:20am

Bush spied, freedom was fried!

Feel free to use.

237 point man  Fri, Jul 11, 2008 10:08:50pm

What Should be the Newest Obama Poster


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