WTF Fox?

Murdoch I'm lookin at you.

Again, the mainstream media gets it wrong.

shows you what a degree will buy ya.

Good job on DP, Charles!

The NYT is afraid to credit LGF.

C'mon Fox...don't compound the Faux Photo with your own Faux Pas

re: #5 red satellite

But, it goes so well with their Faux Newsl

Damn straight they didn't.

Oh, please don't show up, oʇıuƃoɔ.

Y'know, all the times they come here and mine for stories...when I read something on LGF in the morning and then surprise, surprise it's on FoxNews by the end of the day (with NO ATTRIBUTION, btw), you would think they would have the decency to give Charles credit for a breaking story.

/feh on you FoxNews!
//and your little dog Pat Buchanen, too

Don't blame fox. Drudge is linking the story to the NYT. Have a word with Drudge.

re: #4 Syrah

The NYT is afraid to credit LGF.

I had the same impression reading the article, they went out of their way to avoid quoting the actual source. They reffered to some other "expert" who was shown the photo (and probably prompted to comment on whether it was fake) and commented that yes it looked doctored. Maybe Charles needs to add NYT right below the Reuters hit counter.

Missed your Prager talk, I blame the hampsters!

Good job Charles!

What caused the huge surge in traffic? Who linked to you and blew you offline? Just curious.

12,000 users online is a ton, at least compared to my personal webpage that hasn't been updated in about 5 years, coded to ensure that IE didn't blow it up and probably with support for Firefox 1 (I think). I would link to it, but then again, it would be laughably devoid of content (other than "Hello, this website is under construction.") and it would probably die in a few minutes from the 5 people who click the link.

Fox News ... Fox News ...
... Earth to Mars ... come in, Mars

MSN is running with it too but also crediting the NYT:

[Link: photoblog.msnbc.msn.com...]

Between pat buchanan and snubbing LGF, fox news is showing they're no better than any other msm outlet.

re: #10 didache

Don't blame fox. Drudge is linking the story to the NYT. Have a word with Drudge.

FoxNews.com has it as their main headline, including the photo, and the article states that the NYTimes blog The Lede broke the story.

I, along with many others, have written to the NYT and Fox about this.

But then, I suppose fox doesn't see the nyt as serious competition.

LGF on the other hand....

Matt Drudge the eliteist is scared to death to link to LGF, as it might cost him some clicks when surfers discover what an awesome resource Charles has created. And whats up with his bizarre Camille Paglia obsession?

Hey, Fox hasn't noticed Pat Buchanan's neo-Nazi buddies, what makes you think they'll notice this?

Fox, like the alphabet "news" networks, are afraid of blogs and the bloggers.

Fear the bloggers BOOGA BOOGA!

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

re: #16 gop_patriot

Fair enough but you might expect Drudge to point people in the right direction and the chances are someone at Fox may well have got the link to the Lede from Drudge in the first place. Perhaps not. Still, have a word with Drudge, no?

re: #13 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Fox News ... Fox News ...
... Earth to Mars ... come in, Mars

hahaha..reminds me of the old I love Lucy episode. Charles you need Madame Ethel Mertzola, or as she's known Rhea the medium, well done medium Rhea!
"Ethel to Tilly, Ethel to Tilly, come in Tilly!"

It's actually pretty clear. The New York Slime still hasn't recovered from not breaking the Fake but Accurate Bush Memo.

re: #15 Sharmuta

Between pat buchanan and snubbing LGF, fox news is showing they're no better than any other msm outlet.

Maybe Fox news is just side-stepping to the center in anticipation of the general election.

Does Fox News hate its source of news and commentary now?

And while we're writing memos to Fox News, tell them to get Pat "Judenhass" Buchanan off their air!

/ I'm looking at you, Hannity!

re: #27 Dar ul Harb

I am becoming less and less interested in Fox News channel

Besides, the lead to the Fox News story was written and proof-read by imbeciles:

A photo showing Iranian military officials detonating four military warheads appears to have been digitally altered to show an extra missile, according to New York Times blog The Lede.

Who th' hell's minding the store, Fox? You have serious internal quality control issues.

/INTRO to Journalism 101

The MSM getting and vetting correct sources? The deuce you say!
Can their layers of well-paid fact-checkers get anything right anymore?

To give Drudge the benefit of the doubt, he has linked to LGF in the past. The problem with a link from Drudge Report, though, is that it sends such a deluge of traffic that many sites simply crash within minutes -- LGF included. He may have linked to the Times knowing that they would stay online.

The New York Times definitely knew where the story came from, though.

The big media outlets don't know and don't care that you, a blogger, did what they could not, discover a fraudulent photo that made its way on to the front pages of US big media outlets - the mainstream media.

It wasn't just confined to AFP affiliated sites, or Middle Eastern outlets, but the LAT, NYT, and others.

And Charles figured it out yesterday well before the NYT got on the story. And the original photo surfaced - clearly showing that the one that got sent around was bogus.

Of course, there's still the not insignificant problem of what this says about the Iranian intentions - they still want missiles to go boom over their enemies, want to minimize their failures (perhaps for domestic consumption), and possibly even for foreign consumption (get people misjudging the quality and quantity of Iranian capabilities).

The Iranians have missiles. They have long range missiles. They have an intention to use them. They want nuclear weapons. They have a nuclear program that they refuse to openly report. It's expected that they may have a nuclear weapon in as little as six months.

I'd say that this remains a deadly serious situation, even if the commenters at the NYT and BBC and elsewhere think that this is all part of a Bush-conspiracy to go to war with Iran.

Just sent to FOX:

Hey Fox editors, Don't add insult to injury by putting out more false information. The source for the Iranian missle fauxtography wasn't the NYT, it was Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs blog. This is the same man who broke the Rathergate forgery. Set it staight.

re: #22 didache

You're right, have a word with them both!

/I have come to expect bubkes from Drudge lately, but that's just me...

You're all wrong. Charles said it was a "launch" and the times/fox story is about a picture showing the missiles

DETONATING.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

re: #19 MrArchieBunker

Matt Drudge the eliteist is scared to death to link to LGF, as it might cost him some clicks when surfers discover what an awesome resource Charles has created.

Boy, you are right. I actually used to check in with Drudge a few times a day but since LGF (and especially linkviewer) I can count the times on one hand in the past year.

re: #24 Nightlight

It's actually pretty clear. The New York Slime still hasn't recovered from not breaking the Fake but Accurate Bush Memo.

They're probably still pissed that someone had the cajones to actually dis dannyboy

Charles.....while a little but of accurate credit from MSM would be nice, keep the faith that WE know who first broke this. And We lizards are more important!

re: #23 Spider Mensch

hahaha..reminds me of the old I love Lucy episode. Charles you need Madame Ethel Mertzola, or as she's known Rhea the medium, well done medium Rhea!
"Ethel to Tilly, Ethel to Tilly, come in Tilly!"

I can soooooooooooooo hear that in my head! Madame Ethel Mertzola! hahahahahahaha

Here is why the NYT is afraid to credit LGF.

From comments for In an Iranian Image, a Missile Too Many

#
462.
July 10th,
2008
12:56 pm

It appears that Little Green Footballs is more authoritative than the mainstream press. They also caught Dan Rather in the memogate hoax.

— Posted by Spofford Banfield

re: #32 lawhawk

Let me revise and extend my remarks. They sometimes know where the scoops come from - and then refuse to give them due credit. To admit that a blogger, a pajama clad blogger no less, scooped them shows that the journalist business isn't as tough as the so called experts want you to believe.

Some don't have the time to care where the original source came from and simply use reports from others - which is how this mess got spread around the world in hours and picked up on the front pages of major US newspapers (again, big media/MSM/western media).

re: #41 Syrah

Spofford Banfield?

Again, good job Charles. I am off to vacation. I will see you all in 10 days.

Any kin to Ashley?

re: #11 turn

Charles needs to hire more hamsters or redesign their cage.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejadud!

it makes them look bad to give credit to someone else.
it shows they are not doing their jobs. it also shows how petty and conniving they are.
the nyt is seldom on the right side of anything.

Did the NYT take a "Dan Rather" pill?

He still wants to be the one to break the throbbing memo story.

re: #44 Ford_Prefect

/Thumb in the air. Towel over my shoulder. Fade into distance.

New York Times anagram:
Monkeys Write
That pretty much sums it up.

re: #25 MarineMomSue

Maybe Fox news is just side-stepping to the center in anticipation of the general election.

If so, then they've been prepping for the 08 general election for years. I noticed this trend over two years ago. Face it- fox sucks.

Good post Charles. The point I attempted to make earlier.
The Times didnt publish my post there asking for a correction....
that they credit you. Timestamps are timestamps.

The NYT can not recognize LGF as being a credible source as that goes against their creed that anything not blessed by the DNC is evil.

re: #52 Sharmuta

If so, then they've been prepping for the 08 general election for years. I noticed this trend over two years ago. Face it- fox sucks.

I stopped watching Fox years ago.

The only stories the Times break are those revealing national security secrets.

Heck, they get scooped whenever those weirdos start climbing their own building.

Once again, well done Charles.

They (all those that published the altered photos) take at face value information from regimes that have been proven over and over to be liars. Why would they do that?

It appears they didn't even give the photos a precursory check, when given Iran's reputation, they should have given it the Double-Secret-Probation check.

I can understand wanting to avoid a crash from a Drudge post.

Since Drudge came up, I read an interesting piece on him just this morning. Seems he is a bit odd, but the piece is really just based on rumor and innuendo - the reporter couldn't even arrange to talk to Drudge.

[Link: nymag.com...]

re: #44 Ford_Prefect

Again, good job Charles. I am off to vacation. I will see you all in 10 days.

Don't forget your towel!

re: #31 Charles

The New York Times definitely knew where the story came from, though.

Charles - It is all to do with the control of the message that the breakfast table newspapers have in the U.S. The newspapers don't want to send people here because the message will be diluted, even if by a small amount. Think of how many people read the paper at breakfast, on the train/bus to work, etc. Think of how Obama can say one thing to a group like AIPAC, getting them all excited and ensuring their and their communities' vote, then say the opposite the next day with no worry that the AIPAC people will correct the glowing reports they took back to their home communities. Obama & Co. know that the newspapers will print the first falsity and not print the contradictory statement.

So don't be surprised when they don't acknowledge your LGF.

I've thought of an idea where people can either themselves or have a blogger type person do a compilation splash web page every day. The subscriber could either read and click to links online or buy a newspaper size printer to sit in their breakfast table area. It would run on a timer so that the hard copy would have printed out (with the stories printed rather than URL links) when they come in to grab their coffee and head out the door. Something like this is what it will take to counter the lying MSM! They are going to ruin this country if we don't do something. Would Pajamas want to do it?

re: #43 MandyManners

It sounds like an improbable name.

re: #58 Silhouette,

That's reserved for really untrustworthy news sources. Like the Bush Administration.

Two prominent national nonprofit groups are reeling from public disclosures that large sums of money were misappropriated in unrelated incidents by an employee and a former employee.

The groups, Acorn, one of the country’s largest community organizing groups, and the Points of Light Institute, which works to encourage civic activism and volunteering, have dealt with the problems in very different ways.

Acorn chose to treat the embezzlement of nearly $1 million eight years ago as an internal matter and did not even notify its board. After Points of Light noticed financial irregularities in early June, it took less than a month for management to alert federal prosecutors, although group officials say they have no clear idea yet what the financial impact may be.

SNIP

re: #50 Ford_Prefect

/Thumb in the air. Towel over my shoulder. Fade into distance.

Oh, I see you have it.

God speed!

Frankly, I don't know why we assume the "three missile" shot is accurate. If the fourth missile was an easy-to-spot fraud, who is to say the other three aren't just slightly more clever frauds?

Bet on it that Brit Hume will clarify this for viewers tonight and will give proper credit where due.

re: #46 Eowyn2

Charles needs to hire more hamsters or redesign their cage.

Yeah, better cage. I don't know much about running a server or a web page but someone threw out the idea of a mirror site which I think might give the hampsters more room to work.

re: #62 Syrah

It sounds like an improbable name.

Is Spofford even a real name?

Has anyone emailed FOX about this?

re: #64 MandyManners

Hey, NYT. Look at these.

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]

re: #66 Silhouette

Frankly, I don't know why we assume the "three missile" shot is accurate. If the fourth missile was an easy-to-spot fraud, who is to say the other three aren't just slightly more clever frauds?

A video showed three of them launching, and one staying upon the rail on its truck.

Good afternoon, Lizards!

re: #67 JammieWearingFool

Bet on it that Brit Hume will clarify this for viewers tonight and will give proper credit where due.

Damn straight. Whatever Fox's problems, I have not seen Brit make a mis-step yet.

BTW, Charles, that was a good spot with Prager. I suspect you'll get calls from some other shows shortly.

I was shocked to hear there was a tie-up on the 101 during the traffic reports.

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

It is, or was, the name for New York City's juvenile detention facility.

That's it! I've heard it on L&O.

re: #69 MandyManners

Is Spofford even a real name?

It googles up as a surname.

re: #74 goddessoftheclassroom

Good afternoon, Lizards!

You are safe today. The site's been so erratic from a traffic surge that I don't want to push my luck with shennanigans.

re: #70 BGB!

Has anyone emailed FOX about this?

Why bother? They are sitting there holding their units just like the rest of them on this. Perhaps they are just guarding them from a Jesse Ja-ackson ripping attack, but more probably its the only thing they know.

Also, Charles, maybe some auto mirror sites will help the traffic...

I know, I should work on my own blog rather than kibbitzing here. But LGF is a treasure (your treasure) and has a chance of making a dent in the current travesty (which resembles the travesty described in John Adams, BTW) if the numbers can go up and be accommodated.

re: #66 Silhouette

Frankly, I don't know why we assume the "three missile" shot is accurate. If the fourth missile was an easy-to-spot fraud, who is to say the other three aren't just slightly more clever frauds?

For the same reason we can't assume that W is both a stupid monkey and a evil genius.

re: #74 goddessoftheclassroom

Good afternoon, Lizards!

Hiya', toots!

re: #74 goddessoftheclassroom,

You've missed all the excitement. There were over 12,000 people online at once just a little while ago. Slowed the hamsters down quite considerably.

Damn good day for Charles.......excellent radio interview and a new LGF hit record. Lets all give him one big up-ding! (So whats up for the afternoon!)

re: #55 Creeping Eruption

Me too. The last time I watched it was the Glasgow bombing.

Let's be frank here, folks. Fox isn't "right", they're just less left.

Steyn is hosting Rush tomorrow. Very cool.

Charles-

The WaPo is crediting the AFP for finding the PhotoShop as if it were part of internal investigation:

"In addition, Agence France-Presse revealed today that a photograph it issued of the original missile launch was apparently doctored by Iran to exaggerate the capabilities of the weapons. The photo, widely used in newspapers and Web sites around the globe, showed four missiles being fired, when in fact only three had been captured on film.

"It very much does appear that Iran doctored the photo to cover up what apparently was a misfiring of one of the missiles," Mark Fitzpatrick of the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies told the French news agency."

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #76 JammieWearingFool

BTW, Charles, that was a good spot with Prager. I suspect you'll get calls from some other shows shortly.

I was shocked to hear there was a tie-up on the 101 during the traffic reports.

Another Folsom St. fair type photo-op?

re: #80 coquimbojoe

Why bother? They are sitting there holding their units just like the rest of them on this. Perhaps they are just guarding them from a Jesse Ja-ackson ripping attack, but more probably its the only thing they know.

Fox is sitting there reading LGF.

re: #78 Syrah

It googles up as a surname.

S/he appears to post all over the place.

re: #85 Big Steve

Better yet- we could all chip a little in to the tip jar.

re: #82 Dar ul Harb

And because there is video that would appear to show the 3 rockets fired in a similar configuration to the photos.

#67 JammieWearingFool -

I wouldn't bet on it, but it would be nice.

All of your fauxtos are belong to us!

.

re: #92 Sharmuta

Better yet- we could all chip a little in to the tip jar.

Just did last week. I may have to pony up another 50.

re: #61 Sunlight

I understand but its needlessly clouded. A typical reader wont make the connection between the two stories.

Is it so difficult for the Times to simply say...."look what Charles found"

Seems to me...and I said so in the post they wont publish of mine at the Times....that sheesh. The Times should be embracing guys like Charles.
Shit. Put them on as research guys to check what their idiot employees cant do.
IMO

re: #58 Silhouette

They (all those that published the altered photos) take at face value information from regimes that have been proven over and over to be liars. Why would they do that?

It appears they didn't even give the photos a precursory check, when given Iran's reputation, they should have given it the Double-Secret-Probation check.

i agree.
i think the nyt is so unscrupulous they would actually run photos they more than suspected as fake. and hope they could get away w/ it.

Some of the comments at the New York Times are mind-boggling.

Searching for image tampering in the missile launching pictures is utterly nonsense. Why should the Iranians do it? What possible difference can one more or one less missile do? To me, this is nothing but another Israeli attempt at hiding their discomfort over Iran. Israelis, clearly, fear Iran. That’s why they are trying to raise a hullaballoo over the whole affair.

— Posted by Ariel

...

Seriously, who cares if Iran did a missle test? Amerika does them all the time. Iran claims to have their finger on the trigger, so does Amerika. When Amerika dismantles its nuclear program, and withdrawals it’s troops from Iraq, then Iran will be less hostile. Duh!

— Posted by tom

re: #73 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A video showed three of them launching, and one staying upon the rail on its truck.

That is better intel. Still, who took/provided the video?

Putting on my skeptic hat, something the MSM is supposed to do, I recall a video or still shot released by Hezb'allah, showing them "destroying an Israeli ship," only it was stock footage from years earlier of the Autralians sinking their own old ship. (I'm sure I am slaughtering the details, as I'm doing this from memory)

^^maybe embracing is a stretch. Ill settle for appreciating.

There was a similar photo a few months ago. I'd like someone to find that and lay this latest side by side.

This whole thing reminds me of an old joke:

This guy didn't have any cheese to put in his mouse trap so he found a picture of a piece of cheese in a magazine. Cutting it out and putting on his mouse trap, it worked!
.
.
.
He caught a picture of a mouse.

/rim shot

re: #100 Charles

Some of the comments at the New York Times are mind-boggling.

All the more reason why this site is so necessary. Hard to believe we live in the same world as these people.

re: #100 Charles

To me, this is nothing but another Israeli attempt at hiding their discomfort over Iran.

Now there's a novel accusation.

re: #99 buzzsawmonkey

Jackson the Ripper?

Stop that! You're cutting off Mr. Johnson.

re: #100 Charles

re: #100 Charles

Some of the comments at the New York Times are mind-boggling.

Why would the Iranians do it ? Because one of the missiles was a dud!

Check the story in CSM:

[Link: features.csmonitor.com...]

re: #88 MJ

"It very much does appear that Iran doctored the photo to cover up what apparently was a misfiring of one of the missiles," Mark Fitzpatrick of the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies told the French news agency."

LGF analyst Shay4l was the first to propose that explanation in yesterday's thread (almost within the first 25 comments, I might add!).

re: #52 Sharmuta

I find myself watching fox less and less the last several months. I began channel surfing when H&C came on. I am SO tired of Hannity's repetitive rants. UGH!

Long ago it became clear that to get the real straight scoop, I only had to sign on to LGF.

Kudos, Charles!

re: #93 lawhawk

And because there is video that would appear to show the 3 rockets fired in a similar configuration to the photos.

Well, there is that...

re: #89 CyanSnowHawk

Another Folsom St. fair type photo-op?

No, it was LA traffic.

Afternoon all.

OT: Why I don't (1) hitchhike, and (2) get loaded in rural Wisconsin bars:

After 1 victim escapes, police find 2nd man tied up in house
By MEG JONES
mjones@journalsentinel.com
Posted: July 9, 2008

Bail was set at $1 million Wednesday for a Wisconsin Rapids-area man arrested in the abduction of two young men who told authorities they were kept against their will in his home. Edward Lanphear, 46, of the Town of Saratoga was arrested after a 21-year-old Wisconsin Rapids man escaped and called authorities about 7:30 p.m. Tuesday, Wood County Sheriff Thomas Reichert said. In Lanphear’s home, deputies found a 23-year-old Town of Grand Rapids man who had been missing since the Fourth of July after telling friends he was walking home following fireworks. According to court documents:

The 23-year-old man told authorities he was looking for a ride home and got into a vehicle. The driver then pulled over, said he was a police officer, handcuffed the man and knocked him unconscious with a flashlight. The 23-year-old woke up chained in a basement and was sexually assaulted. His chains were connected to a string tied to a shotgun, making it life-threatening for him to move. The 21-year-old man was reported missing about 12:40 p.m. Tuesday, and his vehicle was found near a Wisconsin Rapids tavern. He told authorities he passed out in his car and woke up naked, hanging and chained in the garage. He said he and Lanphear frequented the same bar. Both men were taken to a hospital. “They were certainly shaken up. They had some bruising, but they were otherwise in good health. Both are doing well,” Reichert said Wednesday. Lanphear is being held at Wood County Jail.

re: #109 Dar ul Harb

Maybe the International Institute for Strategic Studies is hiring, Shay4l!

I would imagine that most of the folks at the NY Times find LGF more frightening than a nuclear Iran.

re: #74 goddessoftheclassroom

Killgore posted this yesterday:
Abandoned baby panda adopted by cat at Dutch zoo

I don't know if you saw it, but want to make sure you do.

re: #106 Occasional Reader

Stop that! You're cutting off Mr. Johnson.

There's a set-up for a Jesse Jackson joke somewhere in there.

re: #101 Silhouette

You're not butchering the story at all. Hizbullah learns from Iran, who has claimed that they've fired off a sub launched missile that destroyed a surface target, except it was a replay of a Chinese missile test.

Amerika does them all the time. Iran claims to have their finger on the trigger, so does Amerika. When Amerika dismantles...

Everytime a liberal retard uses k instead of a c to spell America, I want someone to cikc their ass all the way back to the Soviet Union.

re: #118 MandyManners

There's a set-up for a Jesse Jackson joke somewhere in there.

Er, actually, it's the punch line to a Jesse Jackson joke. (See buzzsaw's post I was responding to.)

re: #101 Silhouette

That is better intel. Still, who took/provided the video?

Putting on my skeptic hat, something the MSM is supposed to do, I recall a video or still shot released by Hezb'allah, showing them "destroying an Israeli ship," only it was stock footage from years earlier of the Autralians sinking their own old ship. (I'm sure I am slaughtering the details, as I'm doing this from memory)

The video I saw was produced by the Iranians and provided via MEMRI, posted here yesterday. One can indeed question the overall event, but the point is, the video, and various photos of the event from different angles, served to castrate the photoshopped version.

more grist for the mill...

[Link: formerspook.blogspot.com...]

Iran Unveils Secret Weapon
...
Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs was among the first to note the use of Photoshop in Iranian military displays. Unfortunately, many MSM outlets have a less critical eye, allowing the Iranians to plant their exaggerated claims in western publications and broadcast outlets with nary a challenge. The Times deserves credit for spotting the obvious fabrication in the missile photographs, but such reporting has been the exception, rather than the rule.

This is outrageous that LGF is not getting credit for this. Who do we email at Fox to complain?

re: #119 lawhawk

You're not butchering the story at all. Hizbullah learns from Iran, who has claimed that they've fired off a sub launched missile that destroyed a surface target, except it was a replay of a Chinese missile test.

Makes me wonder if this isn't a load of crap, too.

re: #121 Occasional Reader

Er, actually, it's the punch line to a Jesse Jackson joke. (See buzzsaw's post I was responding to.)

Oops. I've read the NYT today and my IQ's gone down a few points.

Hi there, oh Lizard Nation!
What a day, eh!
What a kerfuffle!
Finally made it to this place - phew and phew again!

Brilliantly done Charles, pity that the various MSM are too stupidly proud to acknowledge you and your work.

And brilliantly done to cope with all the traffic and allow us our daily rdose of lgf!
Kudos to those super-hamsters - let them ahve champagne, I say!

I just laid out the timeline for Drudge. Lets see.

Charles, I suggest you don't let all the hamsters go to lunch at the same time.

Their wheel is barely turning.

re: #125 Occasional Reader

Makes me wonder if this isn't a load of crap, too.

Or maybe it's the same load of crap? BBC story conflates "missile" with "torpedo", so hard to say.

Charles,

I bet a dump of your site logs for the last 2 days would be darn interesting. Bet you Stinky could probably find a few hits from the NYSlimes and Angry French Pissants domains.

re: #125 Occasional Reader

Funny you mention that. It's little more than a shkval torpedo. Covered previously here.

re: #120 red satellite

Everytime a liberal retard uses k instead of a c to spell America, I want someone to cikc their ass all the way back to the Soviet Union.

I always think of this: "Amerika". (barely-watchable television)

I was impressed by your interview Charles, you came across with more knowledge that the interviewer! ;-)

re: #125 Occasional Reader

Makes me wonder if this isn't a load of crap, too.

This speaks to that.

Two-thirds of the way down the 1st page is this paragraph:

"Remember that advanced fighter that Iran built, supposedly equal to our own F/A-18? It’s actually a remanufactured U.S. F-5, with a second vertical stabilizer and marginally upgraded avionics. Or that high-speed torpedo? It is based on a Soviet design from World War II, requiring precise pre-launch calculations. If the target changes speed, zig-zags, or does anything to upset the firing solution, the torpedo misses its mark."

re: #122 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The video I saw was produced by the Iranians and provided via MEMRI, posted here yesterday. One can indeed question the overall event, but the point is, the video, and various photos of the event from different angles, served to castrate the photoshopped version.

Funny you should mention that video!
Like you, I saw it here last night - and I thought to myself that it did pretty odd, lots of repeat shots.
Now I'm no photo-shop techie, so I don't know if its possible to photo-shop videos, but it sure did look slightly unreal.

re: #132 lawhawk

Funny you mention that. It's little more than a shkval torpedo. Covered previously here.

I like the "radar-evading torpedo" claim the best. (That has come up in press reports today, too, I'd have to find them.) I, personally, have developed a sonar-evading rocket, based on Big Dragon Fireworks Co. technology.

I'd like to see a photos of four missiles being released from silos in central Montana. Perhaps we could photograph the release and the Iranian photographers could take photos while they land. Now that, my friends, would be some great photography.

re: #129 Quintus_Arius

I think Charles should get rid of the rodents and use a team of Texas mules! LOL

re: #131 unclassifiable

Charles,

I bet a dump of your site logs for the last 2 days would be darn interesting. Bet you Stinky could probably find a few hits from the NYSlimes and Angry French Pissants domains.

LOL!

re: #139 'Nam Grunt

I think Charles should get rid of the rodents and use a team of Texas mules! LOL

excellent.

Blaming Fox for not giving credit to "alternative news sources" such as LGF is like blaming the oil companies for not coming up with alternative energy sources.

You are asking them to bolster the exact thing that is going to destroy their business.

Would have it been nicer, or more moral to give LGF credit? Of course....but this is the MSM we are talking about. (now if Buchanan had had the scoop, FOX would be right on it)

re: #139 'Nam Grunt

I think Charles should get rid of the rodents and use a team of Texas mules! LOL

Naw - they'd be too stubborn - and what if one of them wanted to go backwards ...

re: #137 Occasional Reader

The Iranians do excel in one area - media manipulation acquisition. They've repeatedly gotten the media to fall for their military prowess without comment.

re: #144 lawhawk

Has the MSM called this rocket firing a "rebuke to American Hegemony" or "resistance against Bush policies" yet?

~Now if the U.S. or Israel had done this they would call it what it is a "provocation"...

re: #144 lawhawk

The Iranians do excel in one area - media manipulation acquisition. They've repeatedly gotten the media to fall for their military prowess without comment.

[Link: formerspook.blogspot.com...]

In fact, the most serious analysis of Iranian military claims can be found in the blogs, including this one. As we’ve noted in previous posts, Tehran’s displays of armed might sometimes laughable, if you only bother to take a closer look.

But give Iran some credit. It takes a certain amount of chutzpah to pass off a World War II torpedo as an unbeatable naval weapon, or advertise a 50-year old rocket design, coated with radar-absorbing paint, as a “stealth missile.” And it takes a lazy, gullible press to fall for those claims, hook, line and sinker.

Does anyone know when Iran might be doing some target testing with their missiles?

I think it would be fun to fire a few cruise missiles of our own and take out their targets first.

The headlines the next day could read: Ha Ha, Beat Ya' To It!

Photo of Detonated Iranian Missiles Appears to Have Been Digitally Altered

"Appears to have been"?

This "appears to be" a newspaper in my hands, but I, the Mighty NYT, am not going to suggest it might not be -- for liability reasons, you understand.

What would the United States of America do without LGF.

Fox set up the little Jesse Jackson fiasco too....Anything to help little Hussein look good.

I keep trying to post and can't - if this one gets through, pardon any duplication ...

Charles - aren't there log entries to see when the NYT newsroom picked up the story so as to demonstrate when and how they lifted the story without attribution?

Let's get pragmatic. I want to know if that Shahab-3 test-firing worked properly. They've been trying to get one to fly right for a decade or so.

re: #149 buzzsawmonkey

Somebody is going for this year's coveted Ed Gein Award.

Gein, Dahmer . . . makes me wonder if there is something in the water.

"The Washington Post credits the news agency that released the fake photo, Agence France Presse, for discovering the fakery:..."

Apologies for raising a small technical point, BUT, who altered the photos?

If AFP did the alteration, then implicitly they knew first (before anyone else) that they did it, and could, therefore, "discover" it first.

But credit for publicly identifying the alteration first belongs to one Charles Johnson.

The NYT, WaPo, AFP and others should at least show the intellectual honesty to give credit where it is due.

The video may very well be real, and three missiles truly launched. The US military should certainly go with the presumption that it is real.

But it is natural and just for us to question it. Sniff it, turn it upside down and shake it, eyeball it real closely, etc. If only our vanguard of protection, the media, would do the same, especially with info from genocidal madmen.

re: #154 Arbalest

The NYT, WaPo, AFP . . . .intellectual honesty.

Isn't this an oxymoron?

re: #151 karmic_inquisitor

There are log entries?!?! Invoke the FISA Act! Er, no, kill the FISA Act! No immunity for Big Blogorporations! Or, or ... something!

/LLL

re: #146 Bobibutu

Looks like Debka is going to have an Iran capabilities analysis next week. Could be interesting because they'll put in word of mouth type stuff along with the public numbers.

re: #155 Silhouette

BTW, see this link to a Pajamas Media article which I posted up-thread. It puts these particular tests, at weapons, into perspective.

This speaks to that.

re: #123 Bobibutu

They only "spotted" it AFTER people like Charles pointed out the photo may have been fake. So any praise they get for retroactive "ooops" should be as totally lacking as their integrity and impartiality.

Yes, people can and do make mistakes, but the level of incompetence at the NYTimes goes far beyond human fallibility and straight into willful lying. Amazing the MSM, with their supposed legions of fact-checkers, are constantly being shown up as pushing an agenda.

re: #156 Creeping Eruption

Given the "arguments" presented by France 2 in the most recent procedings in the alDura case, it's hard to tell.

Charles, for what it is worth, I think this absolutly illustrates the contempt and fear the msm outlets have you, and for sites like LGF.

It is more than obvious, they are trying to create a paper trail for this in the record.

All one has to do, is look at their own blogs at the same date and time, see what is being discussed, and the truth is abundant.

You have gained in popularity, they have lost significant market share.

They can't spin this.

The world, despite the apparent ambivelence to the situation, knows all well the Iranian Regime and their nuclear aspirations is deadly serious business.

I understand this day and age of the 24 hour media cycle, and the desire to get out first. As a consumer of news, I can let the printing of the fauxtos slide, even though they claim to edit their own under this circumstance.

Your site broke this information.

They had to issue the correction.

The blogger did their job for them.

They know, the Constitution won out. You are the free press.

Truth be known, I am sure Jesse is truly jealous of your cutting ability right about now.

re: #155 Silhouette

Wouldn't the U.S. military have their own video of this, say from high up?

One working missile is too many.

One nuke is far, far too many.

When the hell are we doing to do something?

Crickets.

It's my theory that most people are dumb and lazy (present company excepted of course).

So, I am not surprised when journalists validate my theory.

re: #139 'Nam Grunt

I think Charles should get rid of the rodents and use a team of Texas mules! LOL

"Grunt" -

If Anheuser Busch gets bought out - perhaps the In-Bev crew will sell Charles the Bud Beer Wagon Horses at a good price - THAT, my friend is REAL 'HOSS-PRESSURE!

-S-

re: #165 Tigger2005

One working missile is too many.

One nuke is far, far too many.

When the hell are we doing to do something?

Crickets.

Sometime between Nov. 4th and Jan. 20th is when I expect something big to happen.

re: #156 Creeping Eruption

The NYT, WaPo, AFP . . . .intellectual honesty.

Isn't this an oxymoron?

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Whatever information there may be on that just fluoride by me.

Perhaps you should brush up on the history

re: #144 lawhawk

The Iranians do excel in one area - media manipulation acquisition. They've repeatedly gotten the media to fall for their military prowess without comment.

Or maybe the Iranians believe their own press.

EUREKA! And more importantly, KA-CHING! I could offer the Iranians a very reasonable price - say, US$20 million - for my revolutionary non-ferrous subsonic ballistic munition technology.

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Whatever information there may be on that just fluoride by me.

Q. Why did they keep the heat on in Ed Gein's house?
A. So the furniture wouldn't get goose bumps.

re: #169 Creeping Eruption

Perhaps you should brush up on the history

PIMF - not sure what happened there

re: #151 karmic_inquisitor

I keep trying to post and can't - if this one gets through, pardon any duplication ...

Charles - aren't there log entries to see when the NYT newsroom picked up the story so as to demonstrate when and how they lifted the story without attribution?

Yes, there are log entries, but they only record IP addresses and other semi-anonymous data. There's no way to tell at a glance where a hit came from -- I have to look up the IP address.

Since we have over 100,000 page views in the last 12 hours, that's somewhat problematic.

re: #158 Sunlight

Thanks for the heads-up.

re: #160 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am constantly amazed at their creativity.

re: #173 Charles

Yes, there are log entries, but they only record IP addresses and other semi-anonymous data. There's no way to tell at a glance where a hit came from -- I have to look up the IP address.

Since we have over 100,000 page views in the last 12 hours, that's somewhat problematic.

Maybe an enterprising lizard can look up the NYT's outward-facing IP addresses, and send them on to Charles, to match up?

Time to write to the New York Times Public Editor - again. When I read the NYT's article, I thought it was a total crock that they avoided admitting how they "discovered" the fauxtoshopping.

Charles:

Here's the text of the AFP correction:

ATTN EDITORS - CORRECTIVE REFILE ADDING INFORMATION ABOUT DIGITAL ALTERATION TO IMAGE: A handout picture released on the news website and public relations arm of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Sepah News, shows an image apparently digitally altered to show four missiles rising into the air instead of three during a test-firing at an undisclosed location in the Iranian desert on July 9, 2008. The 2nd Right missile has apparently been added in digital retouch to cover a grounded missile that may have failed during the test. AFP PHOTO/HO/SEPAH NEWS

[Link: www.pdnpulse.com...]

re: #178 MJ

Charles:

Here's the text of the AFP correction:

ATTN EDITORS - CORRECTIVE REFILE ADDING INFORMATION ABOUT DIGITAL ALTERATION TO IMAGE: A handout picture released on the news website and public relations arm of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, Sepah News, shows an image apparently digitally altered to show four missiles rising into the air instead of three during a test-firing at an undisclosed location in the Iranian desert on July 9, 2008. The 2nd Right missile has apparently been added in digital retouch to cover a grounded missile that may have failed during the test. AFP PHOTO/HO/SEPAH NEWS

[Link: www.pdnpulse.com...]

What is the relationship with AFP and the Iranian SEPAH News?
Shouldn't this be disclosed?

re: #170 Occasional Reader

Oh! Oh! Me me me! I've engineered an environmentally sound, biofueled launching mechanism for your product here. We could sell this as a complete weapons system for, oh I don't know, $35 million USD?

re: #137 Occasional Reader

In WW2 the germans experimented with rocket-propelled torpedoes (termed rather ingloriously as "farting torpedoes") with little success. It has been hypothesized that the Kursk went down as a result of a runaway of a shkval upgrade prototype. When I heard about the radar-evading torpedo this morning, I thought they were resurrecting a term from the very early 20th century: The Aerial Torpedo.

Lately it seems to me that fox news has become a caricature of itself. They are considered by the leftists and other msm outlets to be right wing, but as many of us clearly see- they are anything but.

I think this begs the question- is fox news a moby news outlet?

These people slay me... they spend all this time condemning construction projects and no time condemning the construction worker who mows down civilian in the "Allah Akbar" procedure. They refuse to even consider condemning rocket shot into Israeli civilian areas!

FOX News has become unwatchable. Their format now consists exclusively of tabloid filler and missing blondes.

re: #182 Sharmuta

Lately it seems to me that fox news has become a caricature of itself. They are considered by the leftists and other msm outlets to be right wing, but as many of us clearly see- they are anything but.

I think this begs the question- is fox news a moby news outlet?

I'm not sure you even need to dig that deep Sharmuta. It really is a question of idealogy (if I can use such a loaded term) vs. $. Their current format seems to be making them the bucks, so that is what they will go with. If a farther right bent would bring in more cash, I think it is safe to assume that that is the way they will go.

The farther left the left gets, the farther left FOX has to get to maintain the same amount of "right" lest they be seen as total radicals.

I think Iran is trying to provoke Israel into making the first move...thereby obtaining sympathy from the world (since many are lefty). REALLY silly to provoke a 3,000 pound gorilla.

re: #180 ArmyWIfe

ArmyWife, do you have an email at your site?

We talked a little while back, but lost your email address.

re: #185 Creeping Eruption

I still like Brit Hume. I wish he would do more.

re: #183 Sunlight

These people slay me... they spend all this time condemning construction projects and no time condemning the construction worker who mows down civilian in the "Allah Akbar" procedure. They refuse to even consider condemning rocket shot into Israeli civilian areas!

Sponsored by Libya. What do you expect? At best you can expect State to issue a milk toast response and abstain from the vote

re: #50 Ford_Prefect

/Thumb in the air. Towel over my shoulder. Fade into distance.

Don't forget to pack your Babel fish. Stay away from Vogons and mice.

I'm getting the never ending spinning wheel of checking

re: #173 Charles

Certainly a needle in the haystack.

I was thinking in terms of shrinking the haystack. We know when you posted. We know when they posted. In that interval, they put together the post and (I would assume) they tested the link. So if we look for hits to that specific page in that time interval, perhaps there is a more manageable list of candidates for a reverse lookup. Perhaps a series of hits to that page as the draft was edited.

That is my assumption but I have no idea of what your logs look like and if that would really wean down the list or not.

re: #187 formercorpsman

The comments go directly to my email, but you can't email directly from it. I'd love to get it to you!

I think what we are seeing are the results of hiring cheap inexperienced journalists with the aim of lowering costs combined with a prevailing emerging labor pool that has been university indoctrinated in left-wing ideology rather than scholastically instructed journalistic ethics and procedure.

re: #180 ArmyWIfe

Oh! Oh! Me me me! I've engineered an environmentally sound, biofueledman-portable low radar-signature stealth launching mechanism for your product here. We could sell this as a complete weapons system for, oh I don't know, $35 million USD?

(Wrong buzzwords for this particular market, AM!)

re: #182 Sharmuta

Lately it seems to me that fox news has become a caricature of itself. They are considered by the leftists and other msm outlets to be right wing, but as many of us clearly see- they are anything but.

I think this begs the question- is fox news a moby news outlet?

In all fairness, the first mention that I ever heard of LGF was on FOX.
It was during Rathergate. I do not recall who the hist was (May have Been Hannity), but he attributed the exposing of the faux memo to LGF & if memory serves me, Charles was mentioned by name.

re: #69 MandyManners

'spofford banfield' is an anagram for 'prof. ben daffodils', which is itself an obvious alias (cf "Murder by Death": 'in disguise, in disguise, in disguise...').
ben=>ben franklin=>frank, daffodils=>flowers=>rose
so, the real name is probably 'frank rose'
/watched "Nat'l Treasure" last weekend..

re: #152 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Let's get pragmatic. I want to know if that Shahab-3 test-firing worked properly. They've been trying to get one to fly right for a decade or so.

Even if they fix the reliability issues, it's still an Iranian-built copy of a North Korean knockoff of an old Soviet design.

It's absolutely useless as a military weapon, unless it's carrying a nuclear warhead. It has a 2,200 pound payload capacity, with a CEP of somewhere between 250 and 4,000 meters, depending on who you ask. Even if the 250 meter figure is accurate (which I doubt), it's not good enough to hit a military target with a conventional warhead.

Basically, without a nuke, it's a Persian V-2. Not much good for anything but scaring the civilian populace.

Re: Fox News. It is still useful for watching events not shown on the other stations, e.g shuttle launches and landings, presidential news conferences, speeches etc.. O'Reilly, H&C, are stale. and no substitute for online blogs

I get no commission here, but for $99/year the very, very best is the
Online Wall Street Journall

re: #186 jill e,

Nuke 'em. Let the world feel sympathetic towards the rubble.

re: #193 ArmyWIfe

Hit me at formercorpsman@yahoo.com.

Silly question, thats all.

re: #114 Creeping Eruption
People pay for this in SF.

By the way -- the largest amount of traffic to this post is coming from Tim Blair's blog at the Daily Telegraph:

[Link: blogs.news.com.au...]

Charles, for what its worth:

Original Message -----
From: Glenn Kessler
To: Hancock, Craig
Sent: Thu Jul 10 14:46:18 2008
Subject: Re: Message via washingtonpost.com: LGF revealed it

yep, you're right. we are correcting that.

This is the email I sent:

Little Green Footballs:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Ever heard of it? Give proper credit next time. They only pulled it, when
LGF slapped them upside the head.

Mork calling Orson.

Come in Orson.

FOX too busy with head jammed up Buchanan's @ss

re: #198 lobo91

Basically, without a nuke, it's a Persian V-2. Not much good for anything but scaring the civilian populace.

Very true, but even as such, it's entirely sufficient to the needs of Ahmadinejad and the Hojatieh sect. Those bastards don't aim to destroy Israel themselves. The 12th Imam will do that when his return is hastened by the chaos which the Twelvers (hopefully don't) create.

Looks like everything is returning to normal here in "Lizard Land"...or when it's an ID thread you could call it "The Land Before Time"...oops, already taken.

Charles, congratulations on keeping the ship afloat while under attack...I don't think any of those Iranian missiles made a direct hit.

I'm sure that the hamsters feel like they've just completed the Iditarod.

The NYT sucks!

re: #204 red satellite

Thanks -- they did correct it, and I updated above.

Do we need a NYTIMES counter under the Reuters one?

re: #209 Charles

"Thanks to the Washington Post for correcting the record."

Great news, Charles. Thanks for mentioning it down-thread. All to often, I don't check for updates.

/really should start

How can anyone doubt that the MSM is either completely incompetent or completely Biased or even both.

re: #13 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Fox News ... Fox News ...
... Earth to Mars ... come in, Mars

What, I was resting!

re: #213 Mars Needs Neocons

What, I was resting!

AH HA!
It speaks!

BTW, main article, and best source of rational data.

I stopped watching Fox, or any other TV news source, when they let Gerry Rivers draw up the OIF battle plan in the sand.

I still have that, and Katie Couric's pre-war "let's hope he survived" comment about Saddam on VHS somewhere.

NO
TV,
R

re: #209 Charles

cool

re: #209 Charles

Thanks -- they did correct it, and I updated above.

Great job Charles!
Kudo's to you and your blog

Charles - some time back you linked to some columnist who compared you to Tammany Hall. He got it wrong; you're more like Thomas Nast, the cartoonist who brought Tammany Hall down.

The MSM has a job to do, when it doesn't do it out of ideological sympathy, bias or laziness and someone else takes their place, it's a bitter pill to swallow. Sometimes, I suspect it's just that laziness at work. Other times there's reason not to be so generous.

re: #214 pre-Boomer Marine brat

AH HA!
It speaks!

BTW, main article, and best source of rational data.

I only had time to skim it, but it seemed that the scientist in question agrees with the artificiality theory for the Cydonia face. Kinda opposite of most of the rest of the scientists isn't it?

re: #215 Render

Katie Couric's pre-war "let's hope he survived" comment about Saddam

I never heard that one. Was this after "shock and awe"?

re: #219 Mars Needs Neocons

I only had time to skim it, but it seemed that the scientist in question agrees with the artificiality theory for the Cydonia face. Kinda opposite of most of the rest of the scientists isn't it?

TvF certain DOES, and he's a serious scientist and reputable. Some others who've put in their two cents are extremely suspect, but I trust TvF.

The Meta Research site was started by him. See the "Solar System" tab, then go to the "Cydonia" tab on that page.

BTW, I'm not a "little green men" fan, and I followed this subject several years ago, but haven't lately.

re: #221 pre-Boomer Marine brat

TvF certain DOES, and he's a serious scientist and reputable. Some others who've put in their two cents are extremely suspect, but I trust TvF.

The Meta Research site was started by him. See the "Solar System" tab, then go to the "Cydonia" tab on that page.

BTW, I'm not a "little green men" fan, and I followed this subject several years ago, but haven't lately.

I've always been a fan of the artificiality theory, not sure if I believe it, but I've always wished it so.

It would be just great to have had something up there at one time put that as a kind of "Nyaaa Nyaa, we were here first".

Would writing or emailing FOX news do any good?

LGF be tha bomb...

no pun intended...hehehehe

re: #222 Mars Needs Neocons

I've always been a fan of the artificiality theory, not sure if I believe it, but I've always wished it so.

It would be just great to have had something up there at one time put that as a kind of "Nyaaa Nyaa, we were here first".

If/when you have time, go into the data on the Cydonia page regarding hypotheses of a sister planet which exploded. It's too involved for me to try to dredge up memories. I would probably get details wrong. TvF and others present compelling (though, naturally, un-provable) arguments.

The thing which intrigues me is the "T" out by Olympus Mons. That S.O.B. has just GOT to be artificial, but no one that I know of has looked at it since the early photos.

re: #223 Agahnim

Would writing or emailing FOX news do any good?

Snail mail to a senior manager would probably make the greatest impression. (Who th' hell goes to the trouble of snail-mail any more? Gee, this person's really serious! Or something like that.)

re: #225 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If/when you have time, go into the data on the Cydonia page regarding hypotheses of a sister planet which exploded. It's too involved for me to try to dredge up memories. I would probably get details wrong. TvF and others present compelling (though, naturally, un-provable) arguments.

The thing which intrigues me is the "T" out by Olympus Mons. That S.O.B. has just GOT to be artificial, but no one that I know of has looked at it since the early photos.

I'm someone who really gets his idea of meta science. I've always had an interest in anomalous artifacts and unusual historical finds, but the one program and book I've found on this was Hidden History and it had an agenda. I want just some straightforward detailing of info and no hidden agenda around it.

That site seems to do a pretty good job in the astronomy area for that style. He even debunks internet hoaxes and myths.

re: #227 Mars Needs Neocons

I'm someone who really gets his idea of meta science. I've always had an interest in anomalous artifacts and unusual historical finds, but the one program and book I've found on this was Hidden History and it had an agenda. I want just some straightforward detailing of info and no hidden agenda around it.

That site seems to do a pretty good job in the astronomy area for that style. He even debunks internet hoaxes and myths.

Actually that may have been Forbidden Archeology I was thinking of.

At least 4 commenters at the Lede, credited LGF.
Elaine Newman
Steve White
Brian - who includes a reference to Rather-gate.
and
"Spofford Banfield" who wrote:

It appears that Little Green Footballs is more authoritative than the mainstream press.

re: #227 Mars Needs Neocons

Straightforward and debunking

Yes. Absolutely. I like that about him too.

If he has an agenda, it MIGHT be to expose whateverthehell it is with NASA that makes them go absolutely knee-jerk against any suggestion of artificiality. NASA filtered the early images of the Face in ways which concealed significant detail. I don't remember if it was ever proved that it was done deliberately, but the fragrant aroma of rotten fish was definitely in the air.

I remember some of that discussion.

re: #231 Mars Needs Neocons

I remember some of that discussion.

See this page

Go down to the paragraph which begins:
"For an animation showing the transition from Figure 2 to Figure 3..." and
Check out the MOV animation.

re: #232 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, and you will need QuickTime, or an equivalent.

re: #232 pre-Boomer Marine brat

See this page

Go down to the paragraph which begins:
"For an animation showing the transition from Figure 2 to Figure 3..." and
Check out the MOV animation.

Pretty cool.

re: #234 Mars Needs Neocons

Pretty cool.

I've got to run, but I've blued my nick for a moment. Get in touch.

re: #195 Occasional Reader

I had alterior motives. I was thinkin Barry O would pick up on this as a GREAT new weapons system. Something he could believe in, mind you. Then he could use it in show and tell when people say he isn't strong on national defense. He could hold up our weapons system and say "See! You are wrong! I have an environmentally sound very scary weapons system here in my hand!" then the rest of the country sees what a complete dingaling he is.

/apparently its been a really long day at the old office

re: #235 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I've got to run, but I've blued my nick for a moment. Get in touch.

The email thing doesn't work for me anymore since the upgrade to Firefox 3.

Just hit me at mtvets4mccain@gmail.com

(That email addy is for my campaign work and I figure if someones going to find it it might as well be that one.)

re: #237 Mars Needs Neocons

Doing it right now.

re: #194 unclassifiable

I think what we are seeing are the results of hiring cheap inexperienced journalists with the aim of lowering costs combined with a prevailing emerging labor pool that has been university indoctrinated in left-wing ideology rather than scholastically instructed journalistic ethics and procedure.

Defective journalists!

re: #237 Mars Needs Neocons

Sent, and it didn't bounce back

/hopefully technology works

I think Charles should redirect the NYT link to this thread instead.

Oh, come on Charles! That ruins the meme about their layers of fact checkers preventing this from happening. Crediting you puts the lie to that assertion. Can't have that, no SIR.

I also posted at "The Lede" remarking that Charles Johnson at littlegreenfootballs.com was the first to break this story and that it's about time he was credited for it.

Anyone who clicks the link at the Times to that earlier Iran post will now be redirected to this one.

Another one that needs to correct the story.

[Link: photoblog.msnbc.msn.com...]

Wasn't it Powerline (?) blog that broke the Dan Rather fakery? I know Charles made the story blow-up, but..correct me if I'm wrong.

re: #246 TS

Wasn't it Powerline (?) blog that broke the Dan Rather fakery? I know Charles made the story blow-up, but..correct me if I'm wrong.

Actually, no. The first one to mention the possibility was a poster at Free Republic; then Powerline mentioned the possibility too, but did not do anything to prove it.

I think it's fair to say that I'm the one who really proved the documents were fakes.

re: #220 Occasional Reader

Right after the "beheading" strikes narrowly missed him.

I'm thinking just days, or maybe just hours before "Shock and Awe" began.

No working TV means all my tapes of the medias (Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS, and the BBC/PBS none cable coverage) treatment of OIF are collecting dust in a box.

ROOM
17,
R

Charles, that Washington Post link above no longer contains any reference to the photoshopped image nor Little Green Footalls.

Charles

Looks like the New York Times belatedly has acknowledged littlegreenfootballs breaking the story see:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Quote:
Little Green Footballs, a conservative blog, identified the altered image on Wednesday. Last year the blog pointed out a manipulated image that had been distributed by Iran’s semiofficial Fars News Agency. As in the case of Wednesday’s photograph and many others that the site has uncovered, the one from 2007 appeared to contain several cloned elements.

re: #249 Lee Coller

Charles, that Washington Post link above no longer contains any reference to the photoshopped image nor Little Green Footalls.

Yep, it's completely vanished from the Washington Post web site.

Okay, they changed the address of the article crediting Charles.

It can be found here:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Late yesterday afternoon, the White House spokesperson addressing the Iranian missiles, distinctly informed the press corps about the photo-shopped missile photo. To paraphrase:"well, there are Internet blogs talking about Iran's photo-shopped missile photos" By happensta nce, I taped this interview.So the White House people recognized the source came from an Internet site, not the New York Times. It would have been better if they stated your blog, but they definitely heard it from a blog, not the NYT.

re: #252 Wendya

Okay, they changed the address of the article crediting Charles.

It can be found here:

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Charles is now a " noted debunker":

Noted debunker Charles Johnson apparently spotted the photo doctoring Wednesday and posted it on his Web site, LittleGreenFootballs.com.

re: #247 Charles

Ah, ok. Thanks Charles. I was never clear on that.