There's drilling and then there's DRILLING!
ouch.

/racist!

ROFLMAO!

Howl! So true.

The bicycle bell at the end was a nice touch.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Share-worthy.

"NozzleRage"?

Talk about an attention-getting headline -- this'll draw lizards almost as well as flies will.

I wonder if nozzlerage.com is gonna' crash once the Lizards go to it.

re: #1 mbruce

There's drilling and then there's DRILLING!
ouch.

Upclick for you - very funny!

/the deelies to click on have apparently also been hosed...:)

High octane in the can.

Hilarious! A classic fro the ages.

fro = for

ROTFLMAO...sharing!

I can't update new comments.

[Link: www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org...]

DAMMIT, Charles, my SIDES are hurting!

/fortunately, my mouth was empty

A classic 'fro for the ages.

Saw this a bit earlier on Powerline.

The Zuckers have a great way of turning what is essentially a comic strip idea into a live action ad.

so funny but so painfully true.

Are the hamsters still ailing?

They've had a rough day of it.

Fight back how, exactly?

Drill here, drill now?

re: #18 zombie
"Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand."
When Barack is President, every browser will have to understand at least two languages.

That's really disturbing ...

re: #22 Silhouette

Fight back how, exactly?

Drill here, drill now?

Yes!

re: #23 ec marm

When Barack is President, every browser will have to understand at least two languages.

Arabic and Spanish.

re: #26 Lucius Septimius

Now if it were Old Norse and Sanskrit, that would be kind of cool ...

In a geeky kind of way.

The first half could have been a serious McCain campaign ad. Then it got a little weird.

re: #24 Lucius Septimius

That's really disturbing ...

i hated how helpless the guy was.

re: #21 GGMac

Are the hamsters still ailing?

They've had a rough day of it.

Pretty sure they still are.

Heh. They certainly do have us over a barrel.

re: #22 Silhouette

Fight back how, exactly?

Drill here, drill now?

Only two ways to reduce fuel prices:

a. Increase supply.
b. Decrease demand.

More drilling/exploration would be a good (though slow) way to increase supply.

Improving vehicle efficiency, as well as improving alternative energy technologies (eg biodiesel, electric, etc, etc) would work to reduce demand for petroleum based fuels.

None of these things are quick fixes, but all of them will help and need to be encouraged and (most important) permitted.

So let's turn those "Turbans" on the nozzles into Alaskan caribou antlers.
And add some "Off Shore-Coastal" sunglasses.

And yes, ride a bike, (I do.), buy solar water heaters, build nuclear plants...

Power to the Correct People!
(They consider ALL the alternatives.)

re: #22 Silhouette

Drill here, drill now?

Amen!

re: #30 VegasRick

Pretty sure they still are.

7,900 on line at the moment. Not exactly a slow day.

They need to make one like this for Obama with a Wack-a-Mole theme.

For guns. Against guns. [bang]
For abortion. For life. [bang]

re: #26 Lucius Septimius

Arabic and Spanish.

liarish and more liarish

Good question. The best answer is, many things.
Of course, we need to drill. And go nuclear.

But the only thing that will substantially help us out of this mess is for Congress to adopt an OPEN FUEL STANDARD-- allowing every vehicle that hits the road to be able to run on oil or any combo of oil and alcohol-based fuel.

Alcohol fuel-- specifically METHANOL-- is the future, made from clean US coal or other products. Check it out.

And glad you like the ad.

re: #33 IslandLibertarian

So let's turn those "Turbans" on the nozzles into Alaskan caribou antlers.
And add some "Off Shore-Coastal" sunglasses.

And yes, ride a bike, (I do.), buy solar water heaters, build nuclear plants...

Power to the Correct People!
(They consider ALL the alternatives.)

That's it.

The more options the market provides, and the more resourceful individuals become, the less power the oil ticks will have.

Of course, as that power wanes, we can expect them to become even more violent and aggressive.

re: #22 Silhouette

Fight back how, exactly?

Drill here, drill now?

Octuple funding for alternate/new sources of energy. Drill in the Gulf of Mexico, ANWR, off the coast of Southern California. Build more nuke plants using newer safer designs. Fund the new small-fusion-system breakthrough. Build huge solar-power farms, designed so the panels can easily be replaced/updated when better efficiency is achieved. Put in more "wave farm" tidal power stations off the coast (severla are already functioning and working).

Etc. Etc. Etc.

re: #23 ec marm

"Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand."
When Barack is President, every browser will have to understand at least two languages.

It's embarrassing. European browsers come here, and they speak French, and German...

(why are Europeans coming here and then speaking French and German, anyway?)

re: #35 pre-Boomer Marine brat

7,900 on line at the moment. Not exactly a slow day.

The Iranian missle photoshop?

The ad creators will have to undergo some serious re-education. CAIR will help.

I see a very effective honda commercial.

Oh, and of course:

Use more fuel-efficient vehicles. Drive less, walk more, bike more. Lose weight and save money!

re: #42 VegasRick

The Iranian missle photoshop?

Probably. That's what caused the outage this morning.

bbl

re: #27 Lucius Septimius

Now if it were Old Norse and Sanskrit, that would be kind of cool ...

In a geeky kind of way.

I suddenly feel like writing wið lots of þorns and eðs.

re: #33 IslandLibertarian

build nuclear plants...

You misspelled nookyular.

re: #23 ec marm

"Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand."
When Barack is President, every browser will have to understand at least two languages.

English and Hamsterese.

re: #45 zombie

Oh, and of course:

Use more fuel-efficient vehicles. Drive less, walk more, bike more. Lose weight and save money!

WEIGHT just a �^$%@ minute!
Let's not get carried away!

/who, me?

re: #38 dreaboi

Alcohol fuel-- specifically METHANOL-- is the future, made from clean US coal or other products. Check it out.

Methanol is highly toxic, with only about 4 ounces necessary to kill an adult, and significantly less necessary to cause permanent blindness.

Its used in "funny" cars, but I'm not sure its ready for "prime time" yet.

The blame needs to be placed at the Democrats feet, in November. Gas prices too high, don't vote Democrat.

re: #49 Occasional Reader

You misspelled nookyular.

What the dishonest Eskimo's wife said to him?

re: #42 VegasRick

The Iranian missle photoshop?

That and the daily ID bloodbath/delete-a-palooza (I've never seen so many posts deleted before - wow!).

re: #40 zombie

Octuple funding for alternate/new sources of energy. Drill in the Gulf of Mexico, ANWR, off the coast of Southern California.
Etc. Etc. Etc.

I'm really not sure any extra funding is necessary, since the elevated cost of petroleum fuels provide their own natural economic incentive to develop alternatives.

The only thing we really need to do is lift the restrictions on increased drilling, building new nuclear plants, etc.

The free market will do the rest.

What no lawsuit by CAIR yet! My watch must have stopped.

I watched it 6 times!

re: #58 Alouette

I watched it 6 times!

Did he press "Taliban" each time?

Has the word "seethe" or any derivatives been mentioned yet? I have just got in.

re: #45 zombie,

I track my carbon footprint by comparing it to Al Gore's. I use a miniscule amount of energy. I don't see how I could possibly use less.

re: #55 Cygnus

That and the daily ID bloodbath/delete-a-palooza (I've never seen so many posts deleted before - wow!).

I saw that too. Something like 15 of the first 30 were deleted.

Wanna FIGHT BACK?

Don't drive your vehicle for 1 day a week.

If everyone did that, you'd see prices begin to drop.

Cool. An ad against the Democrat party.

Just remember folks, the GOP push to drill is a hoax. So sayeth San Francisco's own trick or treat - Nancy Pelosi.

re: #52 looking closely

The toxicity of Methanol has been highly oversold, with most of that data coming from at least a decade ago. Methanol has been used in race-cars since the 1960s, and is now at the top of the Chinese energy independence strategy.

lhttp://e85.whipnet.net/yellow/m85.2.html

re: #63 So?

Wanna FIGHT BACK?

Don't drive your vehicle for 1 day a week.

If everyone did that, you'd see prices begin to drop.

How about simple carpooling, and every other measure proposed in the 70s the last time this happened?

re: #61 Iron Fist

,

I track my carbon footprint by comparing it to Al Gore's. I use a miniscule amount of energy. I don't see how I could possibly use less.

I took one of those carbon footprint tests, it was tied to how long you should be allowed to live using carbon as you do.
It said I could live forever!
I wonder what it tells Al Gore?

Why is Congress halting solar energy development NOW?

US halts solar energy projects over environment fears
By Catherine Elsworth in Los Angeles
Last Updated: 8:01pm BST 27/06/2008

The US government is putting a hold on new solar energy projects on public land for two years so it can study the environmental impact of sun-driven plants.

The Bureau of Land Management says the moratorium on solar proposals is needed to determine how a new generation of large-scale projects could affect plants and wildlife on the land it manages.

The move has angered some solar energy proponents who argue it could hold up the industry at a vital juncture, given the pressing need to secure alternative energy sources at a time of soaring oil prices. "This technology has been around for nearly three decades.
If there is an environmental concern, that can be addressed without putting a halt to this technology and helping to impact our greenhouse gas emissions and the environmental degradation from coal-fired and natural gas plants," said Brad Collins, executive director of the American Solar Energy Society.

He said the review appeared to be an arbitrary "road block" that contradicted "the stated goals of both presidential candidates, the stated goals of Congress and the American public." The Bureau of Land Management, which looks after 258 million acres of federal land, much of it flat, sun-baked terrain in the western US considered ideal for solar energy development, says the study is required by law and backed by environmental groups.

re: #61 Iron Fist

,

I track my carbon footprint by comparing it to Al Gore's. I use a miniscule amount of energy. I don't see how I could possibly use less.

Passed an SUV at lunch today with a bumper sticker that assured me its carbon footprint was "offset."

Indulgences!

Anybody else see this?
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

re: #63 So?,

Not a realistic possibility for most people.

re: #38 dreaboi

Good question. The best answer is, many things.
Of course, we need to drill. And go nuclear.

But the only thing that will substantially help us out of this mess is for Congress to adopt an OPEN FUEL STANDARD-- allowing every vehicle that hits the road to be able to run on oil or any combo of oil and alcohol-based fuel.

Alcohol fuel-- specifically METHANOL-- is the future, made from clean US coal or other products. Check it out.

And glad you like the ad.

Are you with the Center for Security Policy?

DAMMIT, my employer has my laptop locked down, so I can't see the video, can't wait to get home! There was some talk of what liberals want to do to the country (HOPE CHANGE CHANGE HOPE),. I envision an ideal liberal utopias a cross between the books "1984", and "Brave New World". I highly recommend these books too.

re: #66 dreaboi

The toxicity of Methanol has been highly oversold,

My hillbilly relations have been saying that for decades.

re: #65 lawhawk

Just remember folks, the GOP push to drill is a hoax. So sayeth San Francisco's own trick or treat - Nancy Pelosi.

Do you get the feeling Nancy doesn't actually know what the word "hoax" means?

It would be funny if it weren't so durn frightening.

This is the United States and we are a land of entrepreneurs. A gigantic opportunity has presented itself.

re: #73 MandyManners

Yes. We're big fans of LGF here.

re: #61 Iron Fist

I track my carbon footprint by comparing it to Al Gore's. I use a miniscule amount of energy. I don't see how I could possibly use less.

Your very presence emanates energy into the American power grid. Your personality creates more energy than your body consumes.

re: #67 looking closely

How about simple carpooling, and every other measure proposed in the 70s the last time this happened?

Kalaka!

/70s reference

re: #77 debutaunt

This is the United States and we are a land of entrepreneurs. A gigantic opportunity has presented itself.

It's called "Canada". Let's invade and take their oil!

re: #45 zombie

BTW, Zom -- thanks for introducing me to the "Nullo" concept a couple of threads down. I sent the data to a friend of mine, who's fascinated with extreme sexual kinks but who's never mentioned this one. Doubtless he'll be fascinated.

re: #75 Lucius Septimius

My hillbilly relations have been saying that for decades.

What the heck are they making in their still? I make ethanol.

Uh, that is, I would if I did that sort of thing. Which I don't. Really.

This technology is the quickest answer to our energy problems IMO.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

If the US worked in collaboration with South Africa on this technology perhaps the technology could be commercialized before 2016. Any way America goes whether it be developing alternative energy sources, mass transportation, increased efficiency, or drilling for more oil I'm afraid we are looking at a minimum of 10 years before we get any real relief to this problem, if at all. And the ME keeps getting richer and richer, buying more pieces of America, and influencing our politics (think Sharia). We are so screwed.

I can only hope for some breakthrough in nanotechnology to get us out of this mess, high e dirt cheap solar power for one.

re: #71 VegasRick

Anybody else see this?
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

Fascinating.

/extremely censored

re: #65 lawhawk

Just remember folks, the GOP push to drill is a hoax. So sayeth San Francisco's own trick or treat - Nancy Pelosi.

“I’m not kneea jerk-opposed to eveything,” Reid said.

re: #81 Occasional Reader

It's called "Canada". Let's invade and take their oil!

I was thinking along the same lines -- except substitute "Saudi Arabia" for "Canada."

That's a proposal that has never gotten any serious attention.

Not only would it solve our energy problems, but it would drive the jihadists insane!

re: #61 Iron Fist

,

I track my carbon footprint by comparing it to Al Gore's. I use a miniscule amount of energy. I don't see how I could possibly use less.

Carbon footprint is a bullshit term used by those who believe they have "offset" their carbon footprint by buying equivalent carbon credits to offset their own capacity to pollute. For the plebs without the financial resource to do like wise, these bastards take great pleasure in pointing out that "global warming" is all our fault.

China, who commission a new coal fired power station every 10 days, is considered, under the Kyoto Protocols, to be a "developing country" and therefore are not subject to such Protocols. They pollute at will. I will be warm tonight as I burn the firewood I have grown, cut, split and dried, and [flips bird] Kyoto protocols.

re: #81 Occasional Reader

Wait a minute! We're already the coldest banana republic in the world. (Lots of branch plants, but headquarters are somewhere else for many companies.)

re: #45 zombie

The most common sense of plans.if we all reduce even a small amount,it could equal millions of gallons of fuel.

re: #52 looking closely

Top Fuel Funny Cars run on "Nitromethane"

It seems I can only see new comments, after I make a comment.

re: #78 dreaboi

Yes. We're big fans of LGF here.

Interesting staff and board of directors you have.

re: #82 mikalm

BTW, Zom -- thanks for introducing me to the "Nullo" concept a couple of threads down. I sent the data to a friend of mine, who's fascinated with extreme sexual kinks but who's never mentioned this one. Doubtless he'll be fascinated.

I'm surprised you're unfamiliar with nullos! I encounter the concept in conversation fairly frequently in my social circle. Not sure if I've ever met one in person, though -- that I knew of. (Though I have met a true genetic hermaphrodite who is probably halfway to nullo just naturally.)

re: #85 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Fascinating.

/extremely censored

Yeah I read this. I wondered if he intends to sue the printers of the ko-ran, after all, that teaches summary execution for the behaviour in which he indulges.

I will hold me breath waiting for comfirmation..................no I wont.

re: #83 Silhouette

Moonshiners have been known to add wood alcohol to their brew to boost the alcohol content; it can also result from improper fermentation or a dirty still.

re: #95 A Kiwi Infidel

Yeah I read this. I wondered if he intends to sue the printers of the ko-ran, after all, that teaches summary execution for the behaviour in which he indulges.

I will hold me breath waiting for comfirmation..................no I wont.

He should sue cair, that would be funny!

re: #88 A Kiwi Infidel

exactly as we've pointed out here before,it's nothing but a ponzi scheme cooked up by al gore types who look to make outragous profits from it.It reminds one of the medevil roman churchs'practice of selling indulgences to the rich(so they may sin at will for a price)

re: #70 Silhouette,

Yeah. I wanna get into that business. If people will send me money, I'll assure them that it's OK to use the amount of energy that they use.

For an extra $50, I'll even mean it.

We are all getting hosed!

re: #99 Iron Fist

,

Yeah. I wanna get into that business. If people will send me money, I'll assure them that it's OK to use the amount of energy that they use.

For an extra $50, I'll even mean it.

That job already exists. Its called Attorney at Law.

With all the intelligent people here, could someone please tell me if there is any correlation between drilling our own waters and the bullsh*t Law of the Sea Treaty? It just seems to me that somehow they are connected. Maybe this is why we won't drill here, maybe this is why other countries can. Just looking for some clarity.

re: #80 Silhouette

I remember the kalaka public service ad very well. Comes from the same era as the "Like father...like son?" creepy anti-smoking ad. The jazzy background music haunts me to this day. Oh yeah - and don't play with blasting caps.

re: #61 Iron Fist

,

I track my carbon footprint by comparing it to Al Gore's. I use a miniscule amount of energy. I don't see how I could possibly use less.

Well, you could die.

re: #66 dreaboi

The toxicity of Methanol has been highly oversold, with most of that data coming from at least a decade ago. Methanol has been used in race-cars since the 1960s, and is now at the top of the Chinese energy independence strategy.

lhttp://e85.whipnet.net/yellow/m85.2.html

With due respect, the toxcity of methanol is unchanged in the last 10 or 200 years and well-established. Relatively small amounts of it can kill, and smaller amounts can lead to permanent neurologic injury. Its far more toxic than gasoline is. There is nothing here to debate.

As a matter of course, I wouldn't simply accept Chinese safety standards. The fact they are going to try this doesn't mean they are going to succeed or do it safely, and I would imagine the difference in litigation risk between a domestic Chinese gov't sponsored program and an American one would be astronomical.

The fact that methanol has been used for a long time in "funny cars" (as I mentioned above) or other automotive racing is good, but that doesn't necessarily translate into widespread safe use off of racetracks, where the fuel can be obtained by anyone at their local gas station.

I don't know to what extent the toxicity of methanol would be a factor in general automotive use, and I don't think the problem is necessarily insoluble, but its a real problem.

re: #96 Lucius Septimius

I thought you were talking about Crystal Meth.

re: #99 Iron Fist

Iron fist my friend,you overflow with the milk of human kindness.
lol(how can we get in on this scam)

re: #85 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yup. That mook is angling for what's known in Yiddish as a sharrupnickel (literally, "shut-up nickel" -- a coin given to spoiled kids to quiet them).

A buddy of mine used to work in a place that was the target of one of these victim-ID threatened-lawsuits. One of the staffers had posted an online memo affectionately referring to his coworker as "Queerboy" (a term they started using on each other in their teens), and out of nowhere, some indignant Professionally Offended Person emailed them with the usual noises about hate crimes, hurtfulness, mental anguish, etc., and threatening legal action. Luckily my pal, a former paralegal, got an attorney to counter the bluff, and the idiot went away.

That video is freakin' awesome. And way, way too close to the truth for my taste. Too bad the usefull idiots in the mainstream media will never air it.

re: #104 MandyManners

Well, you could die.

Good plan -- the Earth is overpopulated. And Gaia demands blood sacrifice.

//do I need these?

re: #41 Occasional Reader

Because they can't speak English!

re: #87 zombie

Zombie, that Saudi Arabian proposal has official war plans somewhere at the Pentagon. Someone (probably a lot of someones) has been seriously thinking about this for a few decades. And (umm) we almost did it during the 70s embargo.

re: #49 Occasional Reader

You misspelled nookyular.

Yeah, but I got caribou right.

Lots of lurkers, not too many posters.

re: #95 A Kiwi Infidel

Yeah I read this. I wondered if he intends to sue the printers of the ko-ran, after all, that teaches summary execution for the behaviour in which he indulges.

I will hold me breath waiting for comfirmation..................no I wont.

He should go to Saudi Arabia in person to file the papers.

re: #104 MandyManners,

Thanks for the hint. I'll get right on that :-P

re: #96 Lucius Septimius

Moonshiners have been known to add wood alcohol to their brew to boost the alcohol content; it can also result from improper fermentation or a dirty still.

Ah. Any antifreeze? Or is that just for French whine (sic)?

ot:

"Moderate" PA/PLO Blood Libels & Anti-Semitism

&

The Greatest Response To International Jew Hatred

re: #87 zombie

I was thinking along the same lines -- except substitute "Saudi Arabia" for "Canada."

That's a proposal that has never gotten any serious attention.

Not only would it solve our energy problems, but it would drive the jihadists insane!

barry farber was subbing for sean hannity over the 4th of july wk end and he basically said the same thing.
he said when/ if our country appears to be coming to a grinding halt, because of the oil shortage, we would just go get it.
that was said on nat'l radio and he wasn't mincing words.
in fact he admitted it was a provocative statement but an inevitable act.

re: #65 lawhawk

Just remember folks, the GOP push to drill is a hoax. So sayeth San Francisco's own trick or treat - Nancy Pelosi.

She and the Dems just want to take credit now that drilling is the "in" thing to do. Typical spin from the Botox Granny.

re: #94 zombie

I'm surprised you're unfamiliar with nullos! I encounter the concept in conversation fairly frequently in my social circle. Not sure if I've ever met one in person, though -- that I knew of. (Though I have met a true genetic hermaphrodite who is probably halfway to nullo just naturally.)

I've heard of voluntary self-castration, and seem to remember a news story a couple of years back about some rural gay enclave where this went on, which was busted by health authorities or the like. But I'd never heard the term "nullo," and didn't know there were guys that excised not only their cherries, but the twig as well.

re: #110 Lucius Septimius

Good plan -- the Earth is overpopulated. And Gaia demands blood sacrifice.

//do I need these?

Isn't there a group out there that proposes just that?

(I never use / at all.)

re: #116 Iron Fist

,

Thanks for the hint. I'll get right on that :-P

Keep us updated!

re: #110 Lucius Septimius

Good plan -- the Earth is overpopulated. And Gaia demands blood sacrifice.

Jesse Jackson may have some insight into how to reduce the population.

re: #117 Silhouette

Ah. Any antifreeze? Or is that just for French whine (sic)?

If you use an old radiator as a condenser, it's a possibility.

re: #91 Tarkus289

Top Fuel Funny Cars run on "Nitromethane"

Granted, though by analogy, that doesn't make rocket fuel safe for general automotive use either.

The point is, what works on a racetrack doesn't necessarily work on the highway, city, or in the suburbs.

re: #104 MandyManners

Well, you could die.

But no - Mr. Selfish only thinks of himself.

re: #102 UberInfidel67

Ten Reasons to reject the Law of the Sea Treaty

re: #122 MandyManners

(I never use / at all.)

I usually don't but a regular got all over me recently after I posted something totally off the wall.

re: #63 So?

Wanna FIGHT BACK?

Don't drive your vehicle for 1 day a week.

If everyone did that, you'd see prices begin to drop.

I don't drive my car on Saturday. Now I also don't drive on Wednesday.

Great video, Charles.

And it's good to the Lizard Army again...without the five minute delay...looks like we have our sea-legs back.

Shock and Awe at LGF.

Building new nuclear plants is fine when you need more capacity, but it won't help much with oil consumption nationwide in the US. We produce less than 2% of our total electric power with oil, although a few states have a higher average than that. France built all those nukes because they used mostly oil for generation but here in the US coal fired plants generate most of our electricity. Replacing those with nukes as they age would be very good for the environment. Nukes are expensive, but any new generation is expensive these days.
France also has something we don't have, nuclear plants that can swing load, due to necessity. All of ours are large base load units, with smaller fossil units doing the load swinging.

Wind power: What happens when the wind quits? You can't turn a key and push a button and start a fossil or nuclear plant to take up the "slack", which means somewhere a fossil fueled plant is operating at min. capacity, its most inefficient load, while that wind generator is "ginning". Combustion turbines can be started quickly, but they must burn oil or natural gas, are generally higher cost and used only as a last source during peak power periods. Most of the CTs have been converted to dual fuel, meaning they burn natural gas

There is much more than meets the eye to the average electric power consumer.

re: #128 debutaunt

But no - Mr. Selfish only thinks of himself.

LOL!

re: #122 MandyManners

I'm sure somewhere there is....there is no end to loony schemes,not to mention idiots who believe them.(perhaps they should start by reducing themselves from the surplus population.they can then tell us how that worked out.)

re: #121 mikalm

In that context, a new term to me, also. They might want to re-think that nickname, to avoid copyright infringement and for better marketing: Nullo Internal Deodorant.

re: #38 dreaboi

Alcohol fuel-- specifically METHANOL-- is the future, made from clean US coal or other products.

Diesel is the best and cheapest for the coal to liquids Fischer-Tropsch process.

Natural gas to liquids is also a readily available technology.

Both can yield either diesel or gasoline, with gasoline costing slightly more. The conversion process becomes economically viable at over $40 a barrel equivalent cost.

Burning food is the dumbest idea Democrats ever invented..

re: #119 nyc redneck

barry farber was subbing for sean hannity over the 4th of july wk end and he basically said the same thing.
he said when/ if our country appears to be coming to a grinding halt, because of the oil shortage, we would just go get it.
that was said on nat'l radio and he wasn't mincing words.
in fact he admitted it was a provocative statement but an inevitable act.

In theory, it sounds good, and apart from fuel considerations, there are good reasons to separate the various fascist Islamic gov'ts from their funding (as depicted in the Zucker video).

In practice, why the heck do we need to invade another country and take its petroleum by force of arms, when we are sitting on plenty of untapped oil and coal ourselves?

I now have heard everything I ever want to hear from 'his highness', Barack Obama. Merci beauCOUP!

re: #94 zombie

I'm surprised you're unfamiliar with nullos! I encounter the concept in conversation fairly frequently in my social circle. Not sure if I've ever met one in person, though -- that I knew of. (Though I have met a true genetic hermaphrodite who is probably halfway to nullo just naturally.)

WTF is a "nullo"?

re: #129 dreaboi

Ten Reasons to reject the Law of the Sea Treaty

That's some scary stuff.

kinky video...I feel like Ethel is giving it to me from the back as well

re: #140 Alouette

WTF is a "nullo"?

You will want to Google that. Warning, be prepared to cringe.

re: #130 Lucius Septimius

I usually don't but a regular got all over me recently after I posted something totally off the wall.

Blow a raspberry at 'em.

re: #126 Lucius Septimius

If you use an old radiator as a condenser, it's a possibility.

It's not the antifreeze in the old radiator that gives you a case of Jake leg, but the lead solder used in the manufacture of the radiator. In the past most radiators were brass and copper, but now many are aluminum. I

re: #137 bill-tb

Diesel is the best and cheapest for the coal to liquids Fischer-Tropsch process.

Natural gas to liquids is also a readily available technology.

Both can yield either diesel or gasoline, with gasoline costing slightly more. The conversion process becomes economically viable at over $40 a barrel equivalent cost.

Burning food is the dumbest idea Democrats ever invented..

About par for the Dems. Better to let a bad idea stand in the way of actually doing something to correct the screw-up.

.

re: #135 Boondock St. Bender

These people seem to fit the bill.

re: #133 HDrepub

Building new nuclear plants is fine when you need more capacity, but it won't help much with oil consumption nationwide in the US. We produce less than 2% of our total electric power with oil

One way it can help is make electric cars more feasible. One isn't very "green" when it creates more pollution to generate the electricity to power it up that it "saves" by not being gas-powered. Add a light, long-lasting battery, and we have something.

re: #123 buzzsawmonkey

4) In the meantime, the nation and the people suffer. While the Left complains about the economic consequences, and ostensibly sympathizes with the inconveniences suffered by the people, they actually welcome these because they provide the opportunity to compel people to alter their behavior.

Spot-on, Buzz! This is exactly why we have a new 'crises' every week. Global warming and all it's baloney is probably the most insidious, as government programs to address it will affect almost every aspect of our lives.

This is also why the Dems will never put up with drilling.

re: #140 Alouette

WTF is a "nullo"?

DON'T ask

re: #145 HDrepub

yipes,its easy enough to make a condenser without resorting to using auto parts.must make some funky tasting hooch.

THIS is great!

Horray! Bush Gives Global Warming Religionists the Finger

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There are even moonbats in the comments! Enjoy :-)

re: #140 Alouette

WTF is a "nullo"?

Apparently its someone who chops something off:

[Link: wiki.bmezine.com...]

(No, I didn't know that one either).

re: #123 buzzsawmonkey

1) The Left has made it politically impossible to access and develop existing resources.

2) Instead, their policy consists of wishing really, really hard for a Magic Fuel Solution, preferably one which violates both the laws of physics and the economic laws of supply and demand.

3) They are opposed to using existing resources in much the same way that they oppose any conflict the US is currently in (e.g., Iraq), while agitating on behalf of the conflict the US is not in (e.g., Darfur).

4) In the meantime, the nation and the people suffer. While the Left complains about the economic consequences, and ostensibly sympathizes with the inconveniences suffered by the people, they actually welcome these because they provide the opportunity to compel people to alter their behavior.

Once again, the Left reveals two aspects of their though processes:

1) Ideas are more important than people; preserving the purity of any ideological/theoretical system is far more important than any harm that might occur on account of that system. If the system "fails" somehow, it is the fault of imperfect people screwing it up, not the system. There is no reason my Communism should lead to mass murder; that was just a couple of "crazy" people. Likewise, Eco-totalitarianism doesn't have to lead to economic collapse; it is the fault of evil Capitalist running dogs poisoning the planet while enriching themselves -- they manipulate the economy to scare people and to perpetuate themselves in power. I know this is true, because I saw it on "Captain Planet and the Planeteers."

2) They are smarter than reality; their utopian fantasies constitute the real truth and will come about if they constitute the Universal Will; that is, are internalized by all members of society. For that to happen, we must all eject our selfish, "individualist" false consciousness and understand that our true Identity is found in membership in and cooperation with the Universal Mind. It's all a Hegelian wet dream, turbo-charged with Nietzschean "will to power" nonsense.

Get these ways of thinking stuck in your head and you can explain everything, understand everything, and have a script for action. And you are relieved of any personal responsibility for what might happen. Besides, it's all for a good cause, right? Greatest Good for the Greatest Number and all that jazz.

re: #148 mikalm

These people seem to fit the bill.

Can I buy an extinction offset?

Time to stop lurking & say goodnight, Lizards.

BTW - Mark Steyn will be hosting Rush Limabaugh's Show tomorrow!

re: #143 Creeping Eruption

You will want to Google that. Warning, be prepared to cringe.

It's a deoderant. Also something Moslems do to women.

re: #143 Creeping Eruption

More nullo stuff: Did you know there once was a loony Russian cult called the Skoptsy whose members practiced the same form of "body modification" as a form of ascetic devotion?

re: #138 looking closely

In theory, it sounds good, and apart from fuel considerations, there are good reasons to separate the various fascist Islamic gov'ts from their funding (as depicted in the Zucker video).

In practice, why the heck do we need to invade another country and take its petroleum by force of arms, when we are sitting on plenty of untapped oil and coal ourselves?

i think he took that into consideration. his statement was based on no other options. that's when basic survival is the prime motivator.

re: #159 Alouette

It's a deoderant. Also something Moslems do to women.

. . . and one of the most bizarre extreme "fetishes" I have ever heard of (first time was today by the way).

re: #161 buzzsawmonkey

Hegelian wet dreams, Gramscian whores--we come up with most intellectual dirty stuff here.

And people think political philosophy is boring.

re: #160 mikalm

More nullo stuff: Did you know there once was a loony Russian cult called the Skoptsy whose members practiced the same form of "body modification" as a form of ascetic devotion?

I did not know that. Wow, the things you learn (whether you want to or not) on this site. :)

From the This Just In Dept.:

Frank Gaffney is scheduled to appear on:

Fox Business Channel - “Happy Hour”- Thursday July 10 at 5:30 p.m., ET
Fox News Channel – “Happening Now” – Friday July 11 at 11:40 a.m. ET

Frank discusses NozzleRage, a video campaign designed, through viral YouTube and Internet distribution, to make clear what is happening to this country and its drivers. Its goal is to channel the fury most Americans feel into effective action.

Note: The date and time are accurate at this moment, but, as always, other news events could result in a last-minute change.

re: #149 Silhouette

One way it can help is make electric cars more feasible. One isn't very "green" when it creates more pollution to generate the electricity to power it up that it "saves" by not being gas-powered. Add a light, long-lasting battery, and we have something.

Exactly you seem to get that part of it. Build new nukes anytime new generation is needed, and if we can make a reliable lightweight battery, build those nukes as you need them for the new generation electric cars are going to use.
Another use for nuclear power could be for process steam to refine tar sands, oil shale and biofuels. The only problem is the source of steam needs to be close by the resource in the case of oil shale and tar sand, and nuclear power is not known for its portability.
We could also do some co-generation in this way, generate some electric power and provide process steam.

re: #160 mikalm

So did Thomas "Boston" Corbett, the man who shot John Wilkes Booth. But he was a periodic inhabitant of insane asylums, as well.

DIG HERE; DIG NOW
What we need is a "Manhattan Project" for an alternative source of energy.
In 1943, at the height of WWII, Germany had no access to petroleum, they had been driven from the Caucuses and the middle east, they developed artificial oil (true they used slave labor to make it cost effective). In 1945 we obtained the vast majority of the Nazi's secret weapons (jet plane, rocket etc) and of course the ardent Nazi Werner von Braun to head our rocket program. Though "Operation Paper Clip" we brought in to the USA numerous Nazi scientists and physicists------Am I now to believe that we did not get the formula for artificial oil and other energy secrets?
There are many avenues to follow and we must together embark on a program to wean ourselves of oil.

Maybe we need to try something different.

re: #161 buzzsawmonkey

They aren't Gramscian whores, they're Gramscian sex workers. Get it right.

re: #171 Mike in Georgia

Maybe we need to try something different.

My bullshit meter just redlined.

We tried nuclear (Three Mile Island) but Sen. Kennedy spearheaded a drive to stop nuclear energy.... I had a bumper sticker that stated ....."More people died in Chappaquiddick than 3 mile island".

re: #173 buzzsawmonkey
I guess we'll find when and if it is ever marketed. My first
thought was this is a scam.

Some food for thought on electric cars. It takes about 744 watts of electricity to make one horsepower and it takes approximately 9-10000 btus to produce a KW with a steam turbogenerator, so roughly 7440 btus to make one horsepower. Say a KW costs 10 cents and a HP is 744 watts a HP would cost .0744 cents
A steam turbine is a heat engine, and the only difference between a nuke plant and say a coal burner is the way you make the steam.

off topic but sort of funny

[Link: leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com...]

organic mouse 's''t'

"Energy by motion" = mierda de toro

Gotta go. Just my two cents worth as a retired employee from the electric power generation field.

re: #174 Occasional Reader

Google "over unity". There's a ton of this stuff out there.

re: #176 Mike in Georgia

I guess we'll find when and if it is ever marketed.

You can find them in Aisle 4, just past the engines that run on seawater.

re: #178 yochanan

off topic but sort of funny

[Link: leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com...]

organic mouse 's''t'

The comments are great.

re: #78 dreaboi

Yes. We're big fans of LGF here.

Does "we" include her?

Christine Brim, Senior Vice President for Policy and Program Management Ms. Brim continues her work as executive director for the Victory Coalition Fund, an incubator for new projects working against Islamism. Before joining the Center, Ms. Brim was a senior associate at the Lexington Institute and the Center for Vigilant Freedom. She recieved her MBA from George Mason University.

re: #182 Occasional Reader

You can find them in Aisle 4, just past the engines that run on seawater.

No, no, no. Those things ALL work.

They just aren't sold at all because evil oil and power companies are keeping them down. In some unspecific way that I cannot prove, and have no evidence for other than pointing to the fact that they are indeed not available to buy, but one just knows to be true.

/

Quick - Someone blame Bush & Cheney for this! It's all their fault!

/sarcasm

re: #182 Occasional Reader

This might be a little more realisticdiesel from sea water.

re: #129 dreaboi Thanks for the .pdf. I think if more bloggers and blog readers would put two and two together (no offshore drilling = LOST Treaty) We would figure out exactly what the hell is going on with not being able to drill our own waters.

re: #172 Occasional Reader

They aren't Gramscian whores, they're Gramscian sex workers. Get it right.

PC has up-dinged this, sorry. They are now "amorous professionals"

re: #184 wrenchwench

Christine Brim, Senior Vice President for Policy and Program Management Ms. Brim continues her work as executive director for the Victory Coalition Fund, an incubator for new projects working against Islamism. Before joining the Center, Ms. Brim was a senior associate at the Lexington Institute and the Center for Vigilant Freedom. She recieved her MBA from George Mason University.

Hmm.

re: #185 Silhouette

I'm sure the "EMB" perpetual motion plus! power generators will be incorporated into the next generation of Iranian Submersible Rocket-Powered Hypersonic Flying Stealth Boats.

re: #187 Mike in Georgia

This might be a little more realisticdiesel from sea water.

China has the resources

re: #193 buzzsawmonkey

I don't care who you are, that was funny. Seriously, I'd
like to see something come down the pike. I filled my
truck up yesterday in Florida. $975.00

re: #194 Mike in Georgia

I don't care who you are, that was funny. Seriously, I'd
like to see something come down the pike. I filled my
truck up yesterday in Florida. $975.00

Fill it up with gold bars?

re: #195 debutaunt

Before long diesel will be higher than gold.

OT.

My wife just called from Costco and they are carrying this.

I thought it was a parody when she told me. How the f**k can we have bottom to top economics when the bottom has no income? Trickle-down at least makes sense, this sounds like pure crap. Any economic lizards here that can explain how this idea can possibly work?

re: #197 Mars Needs Neocons

Any economic lizards here that can explain how this idea can possibly work?

It's really quite simple.

re: #197 Mars Needs Neocons

It worked like a charm in the USSR.

re: #198 Occasional Reader

It's really quite simple.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

Je$$e Jackson has made a good living at it.

re: #201 buzzsawmonkey

It's doing well in Gaza, too.

It's amazing how Adam Smith never figured out the "Stripped Greenhouse" theory of wealth creation. Man, those Palis are smart.

re: #32 looking closely

re: #32 looking closely

Only two ways to reduce fuel prices:

a. Increase supply.
b. Decrease demand.
...

None of these things are quick fixes, but all of them will help and need to be encouraged and (most important) permitted.

Agreed. Liberals I've talked to somehow beleive that #2 is the only option. Let's exlore that for a second.

First what precentage of gas is consumed by consumer vehicles. And then reduce again for the global share of vehicles. How much a dent in global suppy are we really talking here? Planes, ships and trucks still use oil to transport food to our grocery stores and many power plants still burn oil because the greens are against nuclear.

Second, a non-oil based vehicle is a ways away. Carter talked about this as a solution in the 70's. Sure we have electric and hydrogen cars, but guess what -- they either aren't functionally or encomically practical. It will be a decade at least before non-oil based vehices are practical for consumers.

When you add these two points together you understand that the liberal conservation ideas are a bunch of feel-good ideas that don't solve any real problems (like most of liberalism in general).

Meanwhile they put down ANWR as "tiny" when it can pump the same amount of oil that is in the new "giant" oil field ("giant" being the AP's description) the Saudi's are about to tap into. I did the math and ANWR is about 10% of what Saudi Arabia alone produces.

Add offshole, shale, etc. and you get the picture.

Even if you want to take the position that all of this won't impact oil prices, we are still reducing our payments to countries that hate us by potentially trillions.

re: #198 Occasional Reader

It's really quite simple.

Sounds about like O's national defense policy too.
re: #199 buzzsawmonkey
And everyone will have enough money to party up to the collapse.
/
re: #200 debutaunt
See above
LOL

re: #205 kellino

many power plants still burn oil because the greens are against nuclear.

I disagree strongly with that statement. We produce less than 2% of our electric power with oil.
Some states have a higher average but overall less than 2%.
The rest of it you got right though.

re: #207 HDrepub

re: #207 HDrepub

I disagree strongly with that statement. We produce less than 2% of our electric power with oil.
Some states have a higher average but overall less than 2%.
The rest of it you got right though.

You may be right. I think a few years ago coal was like over 45% and I thought oil was a bit higher than 2% (I thought it closer to 8% for some reason) but for all I know you may be right.

The three primary energy sources for generating electric power in the United States are coal, natural gas, and nuclear energy. These three sources consistently provided between 84.6 and 88.6 percent of total net generation during the period 1995 through 2006. Petroleum’s share of total net generation peaked at 3.6 percent in 1998. It has declined thereafter to a low of 1.6 percent in 2006.

re: #208 kellino

re: #207 HDrepub

You may be right. I think a few years ago coal was like over 45% and I thought oil was a bit higher than 2% (I thought it closer to 8% for some reason) but for all I know you may be right.

According to the latest government report from the EIA I am right.

That music is from Blade of Darkness, a great and underrated game from 2001-ish.

re: #211 buzzsawmonkey

Somebody needs to design a turbine that runs off of sewage flow. Not only would it generate more electricity, it would serve as grounds to ditch the damn low-flow toilets and return to using flush mechanisms that actually do the job.

Pump storage of sewage water is feasible, but it takes energy to get it up to the storage reservoir. Hydro turbo-generators have to have certain amount of water head to operate.

re: #211 buzzsawmonkey

Somebody needs to design a turbine that runs off of sewage flow. Not only would it generate more electricity, it would serve as grounds to ditch the damn low-flow toilets and return to using flush mechanisms that actually do the job.

How about a wind turbine just downwind from the Capitol Hill and the Senate floor.

Pelosi, Murtha and Reid have enough hot air to power a county or two. Perhaps methane as well.

re: #215 buzzsawmonkey

Unintended consequences - they mean well.

re: #66 dreaboi

good data. Some solid info. Good hunting.

I am for drilling here, work for a drilling company. but how will selling our resources on a giant open market help us. I mean it will be great for China and India, but what about the working guy here. Is there any way to give incentives for the smaller US based companies to drill, refine, sell here at lower rates in return for tax breaks and other incentives? I am just not thrilled about selling our jewels to those that hate us. Drill here, drill now, keep it here!

re: #190 Charles

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