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A Disturbance in the Intarwebs?

Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 6:06:10 pm PDT

Something odd’s happening on the Internet. A lot of sites are inaccessible and I had to turn off our advertisements to get LGF to load. An attack, or just a burned out router somewhere?

UPDATE at 7/10/08 7:16:56 pm:

Time Warner Cable seems to be having serious trouble on the west coast.

UPDATE at 7/10/08 7:25:30 pm:

The pipes just opened up again. Somewhere in Anaheim, a router is being tossed in the trash bin.

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1 winston06  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:06:53pm

I hope not...

2 kahall  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:07:04pm

The tubes have some dust in them.

3 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:07:24pm

I haven't noticed anything.

4 Dianna  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:07:33pm

No clues, but I've at least been able to access LGF. Which is a relief, after this morning.

BTW, I approve of the Zappa quote: Nothing but the best for my dog.

5 Sizzlack  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:08:02pm

someone get the Drain-O...the tubes are clogged

6 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:08:49pm

it's been a weird day.

7 Dianna  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:09:07pm

From Instapundit:

WORLD WAR III announced by spam: "Hackers are deluging web users with malware-laden spam claiming that World War III has started following a US invasion of Iran. Security experts warned [yesterday] that spam emails with subject lines including 'Third World War has begun,' '20000 US Soldiers in Iran,' and 'US Army crossed Iran's borders' have been intercepted. The emails contain links to a malicious webpage that displays what appears to be a video player showing the mushroom cloud of a nuclear explosion."

Could this be the explanation?

8 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:09:10pm

Clearly the 12th imam is pissed and is getting ready to restore justice.

Scratch that - porn sites are accessible.

Must be the Chinese.

9 winston06  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:09:33pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout


LGF pages were not available from time to time, I noticed

10 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:09:43pm

Hello Charles, what sites can you not link to?

11 dsrtegl  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:09:59pm

I saw an article about a new DNS cache poisoning attack.... Could be related.

12 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:10:06pm

Charles, I posted this a few minutes ago on the last thread, and it's probably just something weird about my old ie6, but I can't seem to get a link or lgf spy to come up. The little hand just hand just hangs there for five minutes & I go nowhere. Clearing cookies, cache and refresh doesn't seem to help.

13 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:10:29pm

Let me the first to consider a wild theory. It IS 7-11 on the other side of the pond by now.

14 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:10:59pm

A disturbance in the Force?

15 hillbilly geek  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:11:15pm

Things are working for me... maybe it's all us Macheads checking to see if MobileMe is up yet...

16 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:11:18pm

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ADJUST YOUR 'PUTERS. WE CONTROL THE VERTICAL. WE ALSO CONTROL THE HORIZONTAL.

17 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:11:33pm

Try Hamster viagra? I got an email the other day offering big discounts.

18 mazeman  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:11:43pm

iPhone 3G release?

19 Charles  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:11:46pm

Something's definitely up.

20 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:11:52pm
21 dsrtegl  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:12:27pm

Here's a link to the article

22 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:12:35pm

If a 'cyber attack' is the best these wussies can do...

/Did I spell wussies correctly?

23 rabidsquirrel  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:12:50pm

Stop clinging to your internet.

24 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:13:51pm

re: #23 rabidsquirrel

Stop clinging to your internet.

Can't I just finish my internets?

25 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:13:59pm

well, at least we can eat tomatoes again.

26 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:14:02pm

re: #21 dsrtegl

cache poisoning attacks.


That doesn't sound good.

27 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:14:32pm

The NSA better be monitoring the net, it is their plate isn't it?

28 Gordon Marock  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:15:05pm

WHEW! Just got done checking to make sure all my porn sites are still online, and, indeed, they are. Looks like I will weather this storm.

29 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:15:24pm

Al Gore invented the Intarweb.

30 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:15:46pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout
Especially when the patch didn't work with zone alarm. I couldn't even get online this morning.

31 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:15:46pm

This is not the intraweb I used to know.

32 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:15:50pm

If something were up, where would be the best place (if any) on the Web to get the earliest news of it? Certainly not Google News. Is there an I.T. focused website which monitors this stuff?

33 Charles  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:15:55pm

Maybe it's a hardware failure somewhere -- but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

34 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:16:17pm

re: #7 Dianna

From Instapundit:

WORLD WAR III announced by spam: "Hackers are deluging web users with malware-laden spam claiming that World War III has started following a US invasion of Iran. Security experts warned [yesterday] that spam emails with subject lines including 'Third World War has begun,' '20000 US Soldiers in Iran,' and 'US Army crossed Iran's borders' have been intercepted. The emails contain links to a malicious webpage that displays what appears to be a video player showing the mushroom cloud of a nuclear explosion."

Could this be the explanation?

Oh goody. Mass internet vandalism.

35 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:16:38pm

re: #29 sngnsgt

Al Gore invented the Intarweb.

Any attack on the intarweb is therefore an attack on Al Gore.

/That ought to get the left going!

36 Da_Beerfreak  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:16:49pm

Might this have something to do with what's going on?

Fix found for net security flaw

37 cliffster  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:16:55pm

re: #33 Charles

Isn't that a gift?

38 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:05pm

Interesting?

Something happened to me today. I went to drudge and it appeared that one of his ads or pictures was trying to load something else down to my computer.

It appears that all my protection was holding, but the activity bar at the bottom of IE7 kept showing a URL and a few other things, and it was repeating over and over.

I finally shut the browser down, checked my processes, had McAfee take a look around, and everthing seemed fine.

But I swear, something keep trying to go out from Drudge and grab something, over and over.

Drudge is HTML 101, really simple stuff, and this was very unusual.

Walter in Golden, Co.

39 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:07pm

I had to leave for awhile, did I miss anything important?

40 rabidsquirrel  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:08pm

re: #33 Charles

Maybe it's a hardware failure somewhere -- but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

And the down side is?

41 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:09pm

re: #33 Charles

Maybe it's a hardware failure somewhere -- but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

I just got the WaPo website promptly, from Dallas.

42 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:10pm

re: #28 Gordon Marock

WHEW! Just got done checking to make sure all my porn sites are still online, and, indeed, they are. Looks like I will weather this storm.

Yep, all the porn short-cuts on my desktop work too.

43 kahall  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:16pm

re: #33 Charles

I can get to both from here. Just sayin..

44 Carridine  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:17pm

Bangkok is loading LGF smoothly, swiftly...

45 dsrtegl  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:17pm

It also could be that a major peering point is having problems and BGP hasn't worked it all out yet.

It happens from time to time.

It depends on "where you are" and "where you're trying to get"

46 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:30pm

re: #33 Charles

Maybe it's a hardware failure somewhere -- but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

I get both. I am on Cox.

47 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:33pm

Your avatar always makes me giggle, Charles. :D

Reminds me of my sour-puss next-door neighbor's wife. :D

48 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:41pm

Last Man talked about an issue with the latest Microsoft hotfix update a couple nights ago. Here's a link to a site with a fix.

I know this is not what Charles it talking about, but I think some other lizards might be having this problem.

Gotta restart now...

49 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:42pm

re: #33 Charles

Maybe it's a hardware failure somewhere -- but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

This is a bad thing?

50 little blessing  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:44pm

re: #33 Charles

Weird. I just loaded up the Washington Post without any problems.

51 theparson  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:46pm

Oh, no! It's happening again.


HAL: I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a... fraid. Good afternoon, gentlemen. I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.
Dave Bowman: Yes, I'd like to hear it, HAL. Sing it for me.
HAL: It's called "Daisy."
[sings while slowing down]
HAL: Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two.
52 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:17:48pm

NYTimes works for me, but ew, I got some on me.

53 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:18:06pm

re: #19 Charles

Something's definitely up.

Can something like this have something to do with where you are located? Whether you're on the West Coast or in the South or out East?

54 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:18:09pm

re: #33 Charles

Maybe it's a hardware failure somewhere -- but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

I just got both of them, no problem. Might be you have a fried hamster there.

55 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:18:23pm

LGF didn't want to load this morning. Thought it was just the traffic.
Went to work early,even. All seems OK to me now,though.

56 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:18:26pm

re: #33 Charles

Could be worse. NYT could be set as your home page.

later,

57 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:18:26pm

re: #39 VegasRick

I had to leave for awhile, did I miss anything important?

LGF has been taken over my a race of mutant crocodiles.

58 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:18:30pm

re: #28 Gordon Marock

WHEW! Just got done checking to make sure all my porn sites are still online, and, indeed, they are. Looks like I will weather this storm.


Do you get the feeling that if the Chinese actually went through with a massive attack on electronic communications, the pr0n sites would barely be affected?

59 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:18:32pm

re: #33 Charles

Maybe it's a hardware failure somewhere -- but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

Lucky you. They load easy for me...

60 Charles  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:18:34pm

re: #45 dsrtegl

It also could be that a major peering point is having problems and BGP hasn't worked it all out yet.

It happens from time to time.

It depends on "where you are" and "where you're trying to get"

Right, that's what I'm starting to suspect.

61 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:18:43pm

re: #39 VegasRick

I had to leave for awhile, did I miss anything important?

I stabbed oʇıuƃoɔ with a fork.

62 kevinmumaw  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:00pm

I blame Bush

63 Thanos  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:00pm

There's definitely a problem, Miscrosoft, Sun and others released emergency patches for DNS exploits the other day, it's reasonable that the hackers would quickly figure out the flaws in design and exploit them. My entire hosting company went down earlier for a half hour, I bet there was lots of patching going on. Beware of all redirects and unknown sites the next couple of weeks folks, and please go get patched.

64 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:26pm

re: #57 pre-Boomer Marine brat

LGF has been taken over my a race of mutant crocodiles.

They will never take me alive!

65 HelloDare  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:27pm

Quarantine the hamsters stat.

66 miamitech  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:29pm

No Internet?....
Two words...
LGF Magazine !

67 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:36pm

re: #22 experiencedtraveller

If a 'cyber attack' is the best these wussies can do...

/Did I spell wussies correctly?

China and Russia are by far the haven for most of the cyber attacks and almost all espionage. The US and other western governments are fully aware of what is going. The US Airforce is creating a 20000 man unit to combat these ass-holes. What we need is firewalls and intrusion detection on all the Internet links running into China and Russia. And that would only work if actively monitored and revised as new forms of attacks are detected....

68 NGrove  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:38pm

re: #25 nyc redneck

Yes, now we just need to avoid Jalepenos and Serranos.

69 ebb0ts  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:43pm

A very Big internet outage...

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

70 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:43pm

re: #33 Charles

I did a traceroute.

I leave the cox network at pnap.net.

After that I get request timeouts.

I still get wapo via http.

71 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:19:49pm

re: #61 MandyManners

I stabbed oʇıuƃoɔ with a fork.

Wanna borrow a knife?

72 Thanos  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:20:01pm

re: #60 Charles

Right, that's what I'm starting to suspect.

See my post above, think there are dns exploit issues that might be root cause.

73 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:20:11pm

Report from the field:

Post and times comes in fine for me.

Walter in Golden, Co.

74 Noah's Arrrgh  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:20:12pm

Someone putting strychnine in the hamster feed? Call the DHS! (Dept. of Hamsters and Squirrels, not the other one...)

75 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:20:17pm

re: #39 VegasRick

I had to leave for awhile, did I miss anything important?

Well apparently, when you logged off, you completely effed up the internet. Good thing you're back now. ;)

76 Charles  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:20:17pm

This is ironic.

Earlier today, I couldn't get into LGF.

Now, LGF is running fine but I can't get into the rest of the Internet.

77 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:20:39pm

re: #19 Charles

Something's definitely up.

Oops, sorry, I just started up a misconfigured C2PC client.

78 dsrtegl  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:20:50pm

re: #67 LoFlyer

China and Russia are by far the haven for most of the cyber attacks and almost all espionage. The US and other western governments are fully aware of what is going. The US Airforce is creating a 20000 man unit to combat these ass-holes. What we need is firewalls and intrusion detection on all the Internet links running into China and Russia. And that would only work if actively monitored and revised as new forms of attacks are detected....

There's a simple fix for this... Unplug their a$$es.

No intarweb for you, comrade.

79 rabidsquirrel  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:20:51pm

re: #61 MandyManners

I stabbed oʇıuƃoɔ with a fork.

You should have used a spoon. It would have hurt more.

80 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:21:14pm

re: #48 Noam Sayin'
I can't go to your link but did some research on the zone alarm problem earlier. I think their model 7.0.483.000 is suppossed to work with this patch.

81 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:21:19pm

re: #61 MandyManners

I stabbed oʇıuƃoɔ with a fork.

In which part of the anatomy, Mandy?

82 Thanos  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:21:39pm

re: #76 Charles

Are you getting 403 forbidden errors or what?

83 Ackomanyuki  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:21:50pm

......Wolverineessss!

84 kiwiviv  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:22:03pm

Karl Rove?

85 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:22:04pm

re: #7 Dianna

From Instapundit:

Could this be the explanation?

If it is, then I figure that there some nasty moonbats who have a lot to answer for.

86 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:22:24pm

re: #76 Charles

This is ironic.

Earlier today, I couldn't get into LGF.

Now, LGF is running fine but I can't get into the rest of the Internet.

A planet where apes evolved from men? It's a madhouse! A MADHOUSE!

87 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:22:27pm

Imaging a NYT web admin logging a stream of hits from the Lizard Army checking their site. They panic and pull up the digital drawbridge causing a node failure, it cascades like the electric grid after a squirrel reaches for a snack, and the whole thing goes down, Copyright invoked, screen rights to be negotiated.

88 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:22:28pm

A major DNS flaw was uncovered, could be that

89 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:22:30pm

re: #64 VegasRick

They will never take me alive!

Just don't open that door -- the one across the room, behind you.

90 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:22:33pm

re: #63 Thanos

There's definitely a problem, Miscrosoft, Sun and others released emergency patches for DNS exploits the other day, it's reasonable that the hackers would quickly figure out the flaws in design and exploit them. My entire hosting company went down earlier for a half hour, I bet there was lots of patching going on. Beware of all redirects and unknown sites the next couple of weeks folks, and please go get patched.


That's sort of like what I got on Drudge this morning. Something kept trying, over and over, to grab something from another URL or redirect me to another URL.

I got the patches this week for what you mention above.

There was a big article somewhere about this. I read it somewhere.

I wonder if the hackers are trying to get a jump on things before the patches get install all around?

Walter in Golden, Co.

91 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:23:06pm

re: #33 Charles

Maybe it's a hardware failure somewhere -- but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

unfortunately I can get to both from the east coast. I read about the DNS vulnerability several days ago. But my understanding was that the issue was fixed before they released the story....

92 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:23:19pm

re: #89 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just don't open that door -- the one across the room, behind you.

I'm gonna whack him.

93 dsrtegl  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:23:36pm

re: #83 Ackomanyuki

......Wolverineessss!

Maybe it was the evil badgers the brits released in Iraq...

94 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:23:37pm

re: #79 rabidsquirrel

Try a spork.

95 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:23:51pm

re: #76 Charles

This is ironic.

Earlier today, I couldn't get into LGF.

Now, LGF is running fine but I can't get into the rest of the Internet.

Then you have been quarantined. Locked into your cage.

96 Charles  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:23:53pm

re: #82 Thanos

Are you getting 403 forbidden errors or what?

No ... "can't find server" messages, which usually means DNS is failing.

97 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:24:22pm

re: #91 LoFlyer

unfortunately I can get to both from the east coast. I read about the DNS vulnerability several days ago. But my understanding was that the issue was fixed before they released the story....


Well, I read the story BEFORE I got a fix from Microsoft. This fix was need both on the server side and the client side.

Walter in Golden, Co.

98 cliffster  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:24:26pm

re: #70 karmic_inquisitor

I did a few traceroutes and they all go through americamustdie.cn. Is that weird?

99 Thanos  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:24:33pm

re: #91 LoFlyer

unfortunately I can get to both from the east coast. I read about the DNS vulnerability several days ago. But my understanding was that the issue was fixed before they released the story....

Patches were proffered, that doesn't mean every admin patched...

100 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:24:38pm

re: #96 Charles

Could it be your isp?

Got a different one as a backup?

101 DonkeyJawz  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:24:40pm

I had problems with the internets all morning long. For some time, the only page that would load for me was Michelle Malkin's, and not even all of it. And real slow at that. I had blamed my ISP, but now I'm not so sure. I't been humming along fine for the last several hours though.

102 ebb0ts  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:24:51pm

re: #63 Thanos

are you hosting in Ft Worth/Dallas or Houston?

our servers there are fine so far no issues.....but yes Update

103 Carridine  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:25:15pm

re: #45 dsrtegl

It also could be that a major peering point is having problems and BGP hasn't worked it all out yet.

It happens from time to time.

It depends on "where you are" and "where you're trying to get"


"I'm sorry, Sir, you can't get there from here."

104 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:25:16pm

re: #16 Occasional Reader

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ADJUST YOUR 'PUTERS. WE CONTROL THE VERTICAL. WE ALSO CONTROL THE HORIZONTAL.

Loved that show when I was a kid!

105 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:25:23pm

re: #73 Walter L. Newton

Report from the field:

Post and times comes in fine for me.

Walter in Golden, Co.

Fine for me too.

gop in AR :)

Btw, the main picture and caption on the WaPo site is hilarious. An empty chair and a name card that says Mr. Karl Rove, with the House Committee in the background. Caption:

Former presidential adviser Karl Rove refuses to attend House Judiciary Committee meeting, so representatives address his empty chair.

I love that they're talking to an empty chair. Heh.

106 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:25:27pm

re: #98 cliffster

I did a few traceroutes and they all go through americamustdie.cn. Is that weird?

I am assuming that is a joke, which is a funny one.

107 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:25:32pm

re: #89 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just don't open that door -- the one across the room, behind you.

And stay away from teenagers who are about to have sex. They always get zapped.

108 Thanos  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:25:52pm

re: #96 Charles

No ... "can't find server" messages, which usually means DNS is failing.

yes most likely, try an alternate DNS server to see if you can "patch around the hole".

109 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:26:00pm

re: #96 Charles

No ... "can't find server" messages, which usually means DNS is failing.


Can you contact any othe Cali LGF users and see if they are having problems. If a big name server in your area has burped, a lot of people should run up against this.

WIGC

110 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:26:08pm

"cannot find server" means one is in a crappy restaurant

111 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:26:08pm

re: #68 NGrove

Yes, now we just need to avoid Jalepenos and Serranos.

and that is probably hysteria too.
those can be washed real well.

112 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:26:13pm

re: #83 Ackomanyuki

......Wolverineessss!

Red Dawn? Patrick Swaize?

113 kiwiviv  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:27:16pm

re: #109 Walter L. Newton

Can you contact any othe Cali LGF users and see if they are having problems. If a big name server in your area has burped, a lot of people should run up against this.

WIGC

re: #109 Walter L. Newton

Can you contact any othe Cali LGF users and see if they are having problems. If a big name server in your area has burped, a lot of people should run up against this.

WIGC

I', a Cali LGF user - no problems for me today - except difficulties getting into LGF this morning

114 Naso Tang  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:27:18pm

I've had a bunch of different "can't find server" this evening.

115 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:27:25pm

A communications interruption can mean only one thing.
Invasion. The Paulnuts got their iPhones.

116 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:27:27pm

Maybe a dead hamster?

117 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:27:45pm

re: #96 Charles

No ... "can't find server" messages, which usually means DNS is failing.

I get those all the time. Assumed it has something to do with the fact I get my internet courtesy of a generous but unknowing neighbors wi-fi. Makes up for their noisy kids music. So I just wait or go through the Safari connection check, odd but the mac mail connection doctor works better I think.

118 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:27:47pm

Internet traffic report for N.A

Router
Location
Current Index
Response Time (ms)
Packet Loss (%)

anhm7204.exo.com
California (Anaheim)
0
0
100

mc-gateway.lansmart.com
California (Fresno)
97
29
0

dnsauth1.sys.gtei.net
California (Los Angeles)
98
10
0

rx0ar-technicare.ed.bigpipeinc.com
Canada (Edmonton)
91
82
0

gw02.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com
Canada (Ontario)
91
81
0

anguhub14.net.ubc.ca
Canada (Vancouver)
95
41
0

loopback0.gw2.den4.alter.net
Colorado (Denver)
95
42
0

gigE-0.border0.vosn.net
Colorado (Greenwood Village)
95
42
0

router.firstcls.com
Georgia
97
20
0

atl-datacenter-gw2.capitalinternet.com
Georgia (Atlanta)
94
53
0

loopback0.gw9.chi2.alter.net
Illinois (Chicago)
94
56
0

cisco-gnarly.n-connect.net
Iowa
93
61
0

kyle.sdf.xodiax.net
Kentucky
93
67
0

cisco.syssrc.com
Maryland
92
72
0

pos1-0-0-155m.ar1.bos1.gblx.net
Massachusetts (Boston)
93
62
0

lan-d32-0606-0578.uninet-ide.com.mx
Mexico (Chihuahua)
92
79
0

rr1.torixt.avantel.net.mx
Mexico (Coahuila)
93
61
0

rr2.gdlmha.avantel.net.mx
Mexico (Guadalajara)
93
67
0

rr1.reyixt.avantel.net.mx
Mexico (Tamaulipas)
94
50
0

revenant.netservicesgroup.com
Michigan (Saginaw)
92
70
0

border0-e0.oc48-ypsi.hdl.com
Michigan (Ypsilanti)
90
90
0

wormhole.homeisp.com
Missouri (Kansas City)
95
49
0

pwps-core01.powerpulse.cc
Nevada (Las Vegas)
98
16
0

isp.state.nh.us
New Hampshire
91
86
0

sugaree.arorapc.com
New Jersey
92
78
0

ac-gw.dandy.net
New Jersey (Atlantic City)
91
87
0

sl-gw9-nyc-8-0.sprintlink.net
New York
93
69
0

router.madbbs.com
New York
91
84
0

180.atm6-0.gw7.nyc9.alter.net
New York (NYC)
92
74
0

wookie.core.3z.net
Ohio (Cincinnati)
90
91
0

sl-bb21-pen-15-0.sprintlink.net
Pennsylvania (Philadelphia)
92
72
0

brdr-dmz-uunet.simsware.com
Texas
95
43
0

gw-inet.ktc.com
Texas
97
29
0

core-router.centramedia.net
Texas (Pampa)
95
49
0

[Link: www.xmission.com...]
Utah (Salt Lake City)
94
51
0

sl-gw26-pen-0-0-0.sprintlink.net
Virginia
92
73
0

er01.asbn.eli.net
Virginia (Ashburn)
92
74
0

mae-east.wenet.net
Virginia (Vienna)
94
54
0

core1-sttl.sitespecific.net
Washington (Seattle)
96
38
0

gate.netwrx1.com
Wisconsin
92
70
0

core-1601-bmia-elkwpop-1-3.mia.net
Wisconsin (Elkhorn)
89
108
0

119 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:27:56pm

I can pull up the Washington Post no problem. Lucky me. I guess second prize would be pulling up the NY Times and the Washington Post.

120 LizardoidCaptain  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:28:04pm

I started using Adblock plugin for Firefox because many Ads were slowing sites down too much. It has made a huge improvement in performance.

121 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:28:27pm

re: #116 FrogMarch

Maybe a dead hamster?

I'm getting a distinct frog smell. It's nothing like a hamster.

122 theparson  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:28:32pm

It' Global Warming.

123 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:28:42pm

re: #105 gop_patriot

I love that they're talking to an empty chair. Heh.

In my best Ed Norton voice, "Hellloooo, Chair!"

124 Macker  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:28:56pm

Accessing from work...no probs here for WaPo and New York Saddam Times.

125 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:29:00pm

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

So just the L.A. area?

126 Tigger2005  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:29:05pm

I just checked. Not having any trouble accessing favorite porn sites. All is well.

127 theparson  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:29:15pm

We need CHANGE!

128 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:29:28pm

re: #117 lifeofthemind

I get those all the time. Assumed it has something to do with the fact I get my internet courtesy of a generous but unknowing neighbors wi-fi. Makes up for their noisy kids music. So I just wait or go through the Safari connection check, odd but the mac mail connection doctor works better I think.

Way Kewl! I would do the same, but my neighbors locked theirs down.

129 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:29:50pm

And we're back to live action...

Our champion, Vern Gagne starts out the round with a headlock on The Baron...

Oops, sorry. I drifted back into childhood for a moment there.

130 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:29:55pm

re: #16 Occasional Reader

DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ADJUST YOUR 'PUTERS. WE CONTROL THE VERTICAL. WE ALSO CONTROL THE HORIZONTAL.

Used this the other day, thought on LGF

131 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:30:01pm

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

anhm7204.exo.com
California (Anaheim)


Dead as a doornail?!?!?!?!

132 HelloDare  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:30:02pm

Internet Bug Fix Spawns Backlash From Hackers

Kaminsky made headlines on Tuesday by talking about a major flaw in the DNS (Domain Name System), used to connect computers to each other on the Internet. In late March he grouped together 16 companies that make DNS software -- companies like Microsoft, Cisco and Sun Microsystems -- and talked them into fixing the problem and jointly releasing patches for it." target="_blank">Internet Bug Fix Spawns Backlash From Hackers

But some of Kaminsky's peers were unimpressed. That's because he violated one of the cardinal rules of disclosure: publicizing a flaw without providing the technical details to verify his finding. On Wednesday he took things a step further on his blog, asking hackers to avoid researching the problem until next month, when he plans to release more information about it at the Black Hat security conference.

The flaw appears to be a serious one that could be exploited in what's called a "cache poisoning attack." These attacks hack the DNS system, using it to redirect victims to malicious Web sites without their knowledge. They have been known about for years but can be hard to pull off. But Kaminsky claims to have found a very effective way of launching such an attack, thanks to a vulnerability in the design of the DNS protocol itself.

On Tuesday, however, Kaminsky held back from disclosing the technical details of his finding.

He said he wanted to go public with the issue to put pressure on corporate IT staff and Internet service providers to update their DNS software, while at the same time keeping the bad guys in the dark about the precise nature of the problem. A full public disclosure of the technical details would make the Internet unsafe, he said in an interview Wednesday. "Right now, none of this stuff needs to go public."

He quickly received a skeptical reaction from Matasano Security researcher Thomas Ptacek, who blogged that Kaminsky's cache poisoning attack is merely one of many disclosures underlining the same well-known problem with DNS -- that it does not do a good enough job in creating random numbers to create unique "session ID" strings when communicating with other computers on the Internet.

"The bug in DNS is that it has a 16-bit session ID," he said via an e-mail Wednesday. "You can't deploy a new Web app with less than 128-bit session IDs. We've known about that fundamental problem since the '90s."

"Here comes the onslaught of interviews and media explosion for another overhyped bug by Dan Kaminsky," wrote a jaded (and anonymous) poster to the Matasano blog.

Over at the SANS Internet Storm Center, a highly respected security blog, one blogger speculated that Kaminsky's bug had actually been disclosed three years earlier.

Kaminsky, who is director of penetration testing with security vendor IOActive, said that he was "vaguely surprised" by some of the negative reaction, but that this kind of skepticism was vital to the hacker community. "I'm breaking the rules," he admitted. "There's not enough information in the advisory to figure out the attack and I'm bragging about it."

133 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:30:10pm

re: #122 theparson

It' Global Warming.

"Everything is seemingly spinning out of control"

-AP

134 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:30:26pm

re: #125 gop_patriot

So just the L.A. area?

That server show completly down. But the detail show it like that for at least the last 24 hours (or more), so I don't think that is the problem. It's probably been off line for a long while.

WIGC

135 LizardoidCaptain  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:30:43pm

re: #120 LizardoidCaptain

Wrong link. Adblock Plugin. Fixed.

136 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:31:06pm

re: #120 LizardoidCaptain

I started using Adblock plugin for Firefox because many Ads were slowing sites down too much. It has made a huge improvement in performance.

Interesting, I couldn't link to the site for adblock. Can anyone else get to it from the posted link?

137 Render  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:31:19pm

Goodtogo here on the East Coast. WashPoo and NYSlimes in seconds.

You'll know if there's an issue with the COD4 game servers in a minute.

Cuz it's...

GAME
TIME,
R

138 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:31:45pm

i'm going to go upstairs to a party now.
hope it's a group of nice people and no aggressive libs who try to talk me down. it's in my friend's apt. she will cover my back.

139 sammysdad  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:32:12pm

Odd this should come up because I applied Microsoft's updates this mourning and was unable to access the internet until I did a system restore. This didn't happen with my neighbor's machine. I will need to do some research.

140 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:32:16pm

Charles

Internet Traffic Report shows over 89 percent for all servers in North America (except server anhm7204.exo.com, which seems to have been off line for a long while)

WIGC

141 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:32:37pm

re: #135 LizardoidCaptain

Wrong link. Adblock Plugin. Fixed.

Still can't get to it Cap'n.

142 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:33:14pm

Nevermind the man behind the curtain...

143 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:33:41pm

Charles, I just went to another blog and clicked on a link. I didn't get the little hand like I'm getting here, but it never went to the link. After that, part of the page diappeared at that blog.

144 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:33:52pm

re: #142 sngnsgt

Nevermind the man behind the curtain...

A fine Toto YOU make!

145 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:33:56pm

Every time I tried to access the WaPo today my browser crashed.

Here at home Firefox just kept crashing on me about a half hour ago, but is working fine now.

Meanwhile, spammers announce WWIII.

146 Charles  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:34:07pm

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

That Anaheim server could be the problem.

147 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:35:09pm

re: #139 sammysdad

Odd this should come up because I applied Microsoft's updates this mourning and was unable to access the internet until I did a system restore. This didn't happen with my neighbor's machine. I will need to do some research.

Interaction with Zone Alarm. Maybe just Zone Alarm Pro. That's what broke my notebook last night.

148 theparson  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:35:14pm

I would just like to say that neither I nor my MacBook are having any problems at all. Just sayin'

149 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:35:15pm

Both come up quick here in Vegas. Oh, and the empty chair thing IS really funny!

150 markx  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:35:15pm

All's well in Kansas.

151 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:35:22pm

re: #144 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A fine Toto YOU make!

I'll get you too my little pretty!

152 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:35:26pm

Damn, this is not good.....I can access both the Washington Post and the New York Times. I have all the rotten luck, it seems. ;)

In the Seattle/Tacoma area with Qwest DSL; there are a couple of websites I semi-frequently visit that are not being found with my Firefox 2.

153 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:35:37pm

re: #146 Charles
Sounds possible. I'm in So Cal.

154 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:35:57pm

re: #146 Charles

That Anaheim server could be the problem.

Mickey mouse operation.

155 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:36:03pm

Anaheim? I blame Branch Rickey.

156 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:36:33pm

re: #154 Silhouette

Mickey mouse operation.

Kinda Goofy, huh.

157 LizardoidCaptain  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:36:39pm

Charles,

You can load balance on demand by using a DNS load balancing method. Also there is Client side load balancing with Ajax. Both are good articles.

158 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:36:48pm

No fears lizards! I have an old mimeograph machine in my basement.

159 the_flying_pig  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:36:48pm

OT - Charles, why delete a submitted link to a blog about the Proposed Constitutional Amendment to "ban" Islam? I thought it is an interesting proposal with some heavy discussions. What gives?

160 markx  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:36:49pm

Anaheim, we have a problem.

161 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:36:54pm

All my hamsters are running @ full speed, I'm in Dreary, PA.

162 Purple Prose  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:37:05pm

In the meantime, here's George Will on evolution:

Johnson notes that historians interested in genetics believe that the roughly simultaneous emergence of urban living and the manufacturing of alcohol set the stage for a survival-of-the-fittest sorting-out among the people who abandoned the hunter-gatherer lifestyle and, literally and figuratively speaking, went to town.

To avoid dangerous water, people had to drink large quantities of, say, beer. But to digest that beer, individuals needed a genetic advantage that not everyone had -- what Johnson describes as the body's ability to respond to the intake of alcohol by increasing the production of particular enzymes called alcohol dehydrogenases. This ability is controlled by certain genes on chromosome four in human DNA, genes not evenly distributed to everyone. Those who lacked this trait could not, as the saying is, "hold their liquor." So, many died early and childless, either of alcohol's toxicity or from waterborne diseases.

The gene pools of human settlements became progressively dominated by the survivors -- by those genetically disposed to, well, drink beer. "Most of the world's population today," Johnson writes, "is made up of descendants of those early beer drinkers, and we have largely inherited their genetic tolerance for alcohol."

[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

163 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:37:13pm

re: #151 sngnsgt

I'll get you too my little pretty!

I happen to have a coffee cup full of water sitting right behind me.

164 BirdFLU  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:37:17pm

The internet is slow? Sorry about that. It was an accident, I swear.

165 markx  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:37:48pm

Router: anhm7204.exo.com (8.15.231.163)
Location California (Anaheim)
Current Index 0
Response Time (ms) 0
Packet Loss (%) 100

166 Charles  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:37:49pm

Time Warner Cable is having a major problem.

167 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:37:49pm

re: #152 FurryOldGuyJeans

Damn, this is not good.....I can access both the Washington Post and the New York Times. I have all the rotten luck, it seems. ;)

In the Seattle/Tacoma area with Qwest DSL; there are a couple of websites I semi-frequently visit that are not being found with my Firefox 2.

SeTac is about as bad as San Francisco. How do you maintain sanity?

168 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:38:14pm

re: #146 Charles

That Anaheim server could be the problem.

Well, it's bee totally done for the last 24 hours. Internet Traffic Report doesn't have earlier history.

Internet Health Report show the latency between all major pipes, a lot to look at thought. All the major networks show above 90 percent netwrok availability.

So it appears it's more local, not between the big boy carriers.

[Link: www.internetpulse.net...]

169 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:38:20pm

re: #158 experiencedtraveller
I have a selectric and two manual typewriters. I'll type and you can run off the mimeos. LOL

170 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:38:29pm

re: #158 experiencedtraveller

No fears lizards! I have an old mimeograph machine in my basement.

The next thread will be courtesy experiencedtraveler

171 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:38:36pm

I can load nyt and Washpost fine from Dallas (Southwestern Bell/AT&T), but Traceroute hangs for both of them somewhere on the East coast.

172 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:38:39pm

re: #138 nyc redneck

i'm going to go upstairs to a party now.
hope it's a group of nice people and no aggressive libs who try to talk me down. it's in my friend's apt. she will cover my back.

Take a fork with you.

173 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:39:20pm

re: #158 experiencedtraveller

No fears lizards! I have an old mimeograph machine in my basement.

My boss (old school Vegas guy) still uses that term when he wants a copy of something. He also says "mark it down" when he wants you to make a note of something.

174 Charles  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:39:35pm

re: #159 the_flying_pig

OT - Charles, why delete a submitted link to a blog about the Proposed Constitutional Amendment to "ban" Islam? I thought it is an interesting proposal with some heavy discussions. What gives?

"What gives" is what always gives when this ridiculous idea comes up. It's not going to happen, ever, and the only thing it achieves is to make all anti-jihad bloggers look like bigoted morons.

175 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:39:39pm

re: #165 markx

Router: anhm7204.exo.com (8.15.231.163)
Location California (Anaheim)
Current Index 0
Response Time (ms) 0
Packet Loss (%) 100

Not good....

176 theparson  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:39:56pm

I'm on Cebridge in Texas and it's moving right along.

177 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:40:10pm

re: #171 David IV of Georgia

I can load nyt and Washpost fine from Dallas (Southwestern Bell/AT&T), but Traceroute hangs for both of them somewhere on the East coast.

You're here (too)?

178 infidelia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:40:20pm

It was probably that 2-hour search I did through Polish fan sites. Never mind why.

179 offendi  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:40:21pm

Oh, I thought it was an overload caused by lemmings trying to post anti-Semitic and anti-American comments over at that Obama community site. But that doesn't happen there, does it?

180 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:40:28pm

re: #163 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I happen to have a coffee cup full of water sitting right behind me.

I'll send the flying monkeys after you!

181 Dianna  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:40:34pm

re: #169 Pvt Bin Jammin

Does the mimeograph fluid make you giggle? I used to run the old ditto machine for my mom, and I always finished up higher than a kite.

182 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:40:46pm

In the movies, the whole world just starts using Morse code.

.-. --- .--. .. ... - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- -.- .. .-.. .-.. ..- ...!

.-.-.-

183 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:41:10pm

The reason I am getting my internet this way is a reluctance to deal with Time Warner. They are so unpleasant to do business with.

184 Gordon Marock  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:41:28pm

OK, just after I made a smart ass joke, I went to Drudge, and when I navigated away, my computer had a cascading opening of windows that did not stop until I cut the power to my computer and re-booted. Now I am scared and clutching my guns.

185 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:41:28pm

re: #170 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The next thread will be courtesy experiencedtraveler

You lizards will definitely have to adjust to a new pace however!

/One thread every 30 days...

186 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:41:57pm

re: #182 Silhouette

In the movies, the whole world just starts using Morse code.

.-. --- .--. .. ... - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- -.- .. .-.. .-.. ..- ...!

.-.-.-

You're having your little ups and downs, aren't you.

187 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:42:04pm

re: #33 Charles

Maybe it's a hardware failure somewhere -- but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

LGF is up but the NYT and Post are down. If TPM and Kos are out,it must be...
Rove, you magnficent bastard!

188 offendi  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:42:09pm

re: #172 MandyManners

Actually for agressive liberals a dull knife will do. They can relate to the dull part certainly.

189 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:42:26pm

re: #185 experiencedtraveller

Furlongs per fortnight

190 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:42:28pm

re: #182 Silhouette

In the movies, the whole world just starts using Morse code.

.-. --- .--. .. ... - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- -.- .. .-.. .-.. ..- ...!

.-.-.-

Sigh, the first network protocol....

191 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:42:30pm

We do need to seriously work on COOP (Continuity of Operations) for after an Electro Magnetic Pulse disruption.

192 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:42:37pm

re: #129 Noam Sayin'

And we're back to live action...


Oops, sorry. I drifted back into childhood for a moment there.

Don't forget "Championship Wrestling!"

Scroll down to "Where There's Smoke" album ... :D

193 Thanos  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:42:49pm

re: #184 Gordon Marock

OK, just after I made a smart ass joke, I went to Drudge, and when I navigated away, my computer had a cascading opening of windows that did not stop until I cut the power to my computer and re-booted. Now I am scared and clutching my guns.

Go get patched, it's not just MS, it's also Java

194 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:42:51pm

re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You're here (too)?

Garland Actually. I can see Rowlett and Rockwall from my place if the sailboats don't clutter the view.

195 theparson  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:43:04pm

re: #187 Jim in Virginia

I have no problem accessing NYT.

196 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:43:13pm

re: #184 Gordon Marock

OK, just after I made a smart ass joke, I went to Drudge, and when I navigated away, my computer had a cascading opening of windows that did not stop until I cut the power to my computer and re-booted. Now I am scared and clutching my guns.


SEE MY POST ABOVE ABOUT THIS.

I would stay away from Drudge for a while, I think he's got something wrong there, or some ad is trying to push something down to your computer.

Walter in Golden, Co.

197 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:43:22pm
198 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:43:40pm

re: #195 theparson

I have no problem accessing NYT.

Feel for ya.

199 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:44:05pm

re: #182 Silhouette

.-. --- .--. .. ... - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- -.- .. .-.. .-.. ..- ...!

.-.-.-

Young lady! That's absolutely disgusting! You should be ashamed of yourself! (Not to mention, it's anatomically impossible)

200 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:44:10pm

re: #181 Dianna
No wonder I always had so much fun running off the copies of our daughter's grade school newsletter. LOL

201 infidelia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:44:14pm

re: #191 lifeofthemind

We do need to seriously work on COOP (Continuity of Operations) for after an Electro Magnetic Pulse disruption.

How much real danger is there of a successful EMP strike? That's a nightmare scenario if I ever heard one.

202 markx  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:44:27pm

re: #33 Charles

....but I can't access a lot of sites right now, including the New York Times and the Washington Post.

And the problem is?

203 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:44:37pm

I will repost this, for you down thread folks...

Something happened to me today. I went to drudge and it appeared that one of his ads or pictures was trying to load something else down to my computer.

It appears that all my protection was holding, but the activity bar at the bottom of IE7 kept showing a URL and a few other things, and it was repeating over and over.

I finally shut the browser down, checked my processes, had McAfee take a look around, and everthing seemed fine.

But I swear, something keep trying to go out from Drudge and grab something, over and over.

Drudge is HTML 101, really simple stuff, and this was very unusual.

Walter in Golden, Co.

204 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:44:39pm

re: #184 Gordon Marock

OK, just after I made a smart ass joke, I went to Drudge, and when I navigated away, my computer had a cascading opening of windows that did not stop until I cut the power to my computer and re-booted. Now I am scared and clutching my guns.

Yikes! Keep us updated... are you running anti-virus software, etc.?

205 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:44:46pm

I cannot believe NOT ONE ambitious individual has decoded my Morse Code.

206 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:44:54pm

re: #194 David IV of Georgia

Garland Actually. I can see Rowlett and Rockwall from my place if the sailboats don't clutter the view.

not all that far from the Galleria

207 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:45:02pm
208 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:45:05pm

re: #182 Silhouette

In the movies, the whole world just starts using Morse code.

.-. --- .--. .. ... - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- -.- .. .-.. .-.. ..- ...!

.-.-.-


Tell 'em how to bring those sonsabitches down!

209 theparson  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:45:09pm

I have no problems at Drudge. Are you guys sure this isn't just Microsoft stuff?

210 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:45:18pm
211 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:45:23pm

re: #191 lifeofthemind

We do need to seriously work on COOP (Continuity of Operations) for after an Electro Magnetic Pulse disruption.

Thats my greatest fear, Iran lobbing a megaton nuke and detonating it 200 miles over the NE US. Every thing within a 500 mile radius shuts down cold. EMP hardening is expensive and not always fool-proof.

212 livfreeordie  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:45:50pm

I use Yahoo email. This morning I got an email from a former student of mine. I am a college professor. It sounded like the student wanted to take the same course she had taken before. I was puzzled and replied expressing my puzzlement. The reply with her "original" is in my Yahoo sent box. I then looked more closely and saw that the email I received TODAY [July 10, 2008] had a sent date of July 10, 2006, i.e. TWO years ago ! I sent her a second email saying "never mind".
Now here is the weird part. My Inbox no longer has the email in it...I am 98% sure I did not delete it this morning...

Does not sound good...

213 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:45:51pm

re: #206 pre-Boomer Marine brat

not all that far from the Galleria

You live near the mall?

214 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:45:52pm

Sorry anout my typing. I was trying to get these messages typed really fast, but you all can get the idea. Yes?

215 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:46:20pm

re: #213 David IV of Georgia

You live near the mall?

Yep

216 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:47:05pm

re: #210 JammieWearingFool

Heh.

Attack of the Clone Tool

I didn't realize they made those suits in children's sizes.

217 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:47:12pm

re: #205 Silhouette

I did. LOL

218 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:47:13pm

re: #29 sngnsgt

Someone give Al Gore a quarter..

*inside joke me and a few friends came up with when people mention that Al Gore invented the net..*

219 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:47:16pm

re: #210 JammieWearingFool

Heh.

Attack of the Clone Tool

Now that's the Dark Side of the Force that I know!

220 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:47:27pm

re: #214 Walter L. Newton

Sorry anout my typing. I was trying to get these messages typed really fast, but you all can get the idea. Yes?

Yes. and thanks.

221 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:47:30pm

re: #167 LoFlyer

SeTac is about as bad as San Francisco. How do you maintain sanity?

By being near Ft. Lewis and McChord Air Forces while living in Lakewood. I could not be paid enough money to live in Seattle, period.
-------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------
There are several flavours of AdBlock plugins available for Firefox:

[Link: addons.mozilla.org...]

222 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:47:38pm

re: #211 LoFlyer

Thats my greatest fear, Iran lobbing a megaton nuke and detonating it 200 miles over the NE US. Every thing within a 500 mile radius shuts down cold. EMP hardening is expensive and not always fool-proof.

We've had lots of posts and links about how that's not a likely scenario, but I'm too tired to look for 'em now.

223 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:47:45pm

Hello everyone!
Hope you are all well. I have been having problems with the flippy triangles, and accessing the dings. When I click on any ding button, I am redirected to the last Obama website thread. And, when I click on new comments, it refreshes, but puts me back at the top of the thread. The Triangles do not open for me at all today, and I am using Fire Fox3, on a Dell laptop. LGF is the only site I am having problems with. Oh yeah, I am having NO problems with LGF spy.

224 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:47:55pm

re: #189 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Nowadays, I guess Kim Jong Dum in North Korea is the best practitioner of information control.

I can't wait to read some North Korean dissident literature.

225 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:48:03pm

re: #214 Walter L. Newton

Sorry anout my typing. I was trying to get these messages typed really fast, but you all can get the idea. Yes?

Oh, just forget it. PIMF. Well, it should be.

226 Cognito  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:48:14pm
Something odd’s happening on the Internet.

It's all those Kiwi iPhones.

227 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:48:25pm

re: #221 FurryOldGuyJeans

By being near Ft. Lewis and McChord Air Forces while living in Lakewood. I could not be paid enough money to live in Seattle, period.
---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- ---
There are several flavours of AdBlock plugins available for Firefox:

[Link: addons.mozilla.org...]

Thanx for the Mozilla links!

228 hazzyday  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:48:43pm

There is an external link on the site that twice has stopped the pages loading. It happened two days ago and a few months ago. It looks like an ad server to me. I will note it next time I see it.

229 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:48:54pm
230 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:49:08pm

re: #201 infidelia

How much real danger is there of a successful EMP strike? That's a nightmare scenario if I ever heard one.

A dirty bomb attack, much more likely, would not produce EMP effects. But a real War, Israel vs Iran, China vs US, NorKs vs Everybody, would produce effects. Very bad for Balkans through South Asia or South Asia through East Asia (notice the Indians are in a Bad Spot. But I'm not sure how it would effect the US. Aside from global economic chaos that is.

231 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:49:11pm

re: #226 Cognito

It's all those Kiwi iPhones.

How's the fork wound?

232 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:49:24pm

re: #218 baxtrice

Someone give Al Gore a quarter..

*inside joke me and a few friends came up with when people mention that Al Gore invented the net..*

Why, so he can call someone who cares?

233 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:49:38pm

re: #229 buzzsawmonkey

It is far more likely that Iran will smuggle nukes in via containerized freight, truck the containers to selected locations and detonate them.

I feel so much better now!

234 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:49:39pm

re: #205 Silhouette

I cannot believe NOT ONE ambitious individual has decoded my Morse Code.

But they are Peaceful™!

235 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:49:42pm

re: #224 experiencedtraveller

North Korean dissident literature

Only on tombstones

236 offendi  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:49:51pm

Perhaps Jesse Jackson cut the n--- off the internet?

237 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:50:10pm

re: #218 baxtrice

Someone give Al Gore a quarter..

*inside joke me and a few friends came up with when people mention that Al Gore invented the net..*

"Change!"

238 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:50:16pm

re: #235 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Only on tombstones

The most powerful kind...

239 Cognito  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:50:30pm

re: #231 VegasRick

How's the fork wound?

Sorry?

240 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:50:50pm

re: #217 gop_patriot
re: #234 David IV of Georgia

Thanks. It's no fun telling a joke into the dark. ;-)

241 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:51:13pm

re: #239 Cognito

Sorry?

Mandy?

242 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:51:14pm

re: #231 VegasRick

COLD!
COLD!

243 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:51:27pm

re: #222 Occasional Reader

We've had lots of posts and links about how that's not a likely scenario, but I'm too tired to look for 'em now.

I know what you mean, I still think an EMP attack is the worst scenario facing western civilization. We would collapse under a global attack.

244 bryantms  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:51:31pm

212,000 page view today Charles. Not too shabby...

245 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:51:47pm

re: #232 sngnsgt

It was more of a "So, here's a quarter, shut up." thing, but I like your answer better.

246 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:51:48pm

Charles...

How are things going at your end? Any changes? If you need us to check and sites, or get you some traffic report, let us know.

247 dsrtegl  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:51:55pm

re: #182 Silhouette

In the movies, the whole world just starts using Morse code.

.-. --- .--. .. ... - .-. -.-- .. -. --. - --- -.- .. .-.. .-.. ..- ...!

.-.-.-

-.-. .... .. -.-. -.- ... .- -. -.. -.-. --- -.. .


... --- - !

248 UncleSam  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:51:55pm

re: #48 Noam Sayin'

Last Man talked about an issue with the latest Microsoft hotfix update a couple nights ago. Here's a link to a site with a fix.

I know this is not what Charles it talking about, but I think some other lizards might be having this problem.

Gotta restart now...

I had the same problem yesterday and called AT&T and they had a bulletin saying the above-mentioned software update from Microsoft was causing a problem with some security software.
I couldn't get on the Internet after this update was installed, but when I lowered my ZoneAlarm security setting to medium I was able to get on the Net.
You'd think Microsoft would check this stuff out before they release these automatic updates, but I guess not.

249 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:52:08pm

re: #242 pre-Boomer Marine brat

COLD!
COLD!

LOL!

250 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:52:34pm

re: #237 VegasRick

But can you believe in it?

251 cincinnati_kid37  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:52:45pm

Nope. It's Tommy playing some rock and roll country blues jazz.

252 infidelia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:52:49pm

re: #230 lifeofthemind

A dirty bomb attack, much more likely, would not produce EMP effects. But a real War, Israel vs Iran, China vs US, NorKs vs Everybody, would produce effects. Very bad for Balkans through South Asia or South Asia through East Asia (notice the Indians are in a Bad Spot. But I'm not sure how it would effect the US. Aside from global economic chaos that is.

Sounds like a scenario in which I wouldn't be getting India when I call tech support for a while...

253 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:52:50pm
254 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:52:57pm

re: #229 buzzsawmonkey

It is far more likely that Iran will smuggle nukes in via containerized freight, truck the containers to selected locations and detonate them.

I hope they don't realize that Hamtrack, MI, is the hub of all our nuclear, financial, and communication controls.

NOBODY TELL THEM, OKAY?

255 Cognito  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:53:03pm

re: #241 VegasRick

I really don't know.

256 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:53:05pm

re: #249 VegasRick

LOL!

Remind me to stand with my back to the wall when you enter the room!

*chuckle*

257 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:53:19pm

re: #247 dsrtegl

-.-. .... .. -.-. -.- ... .- -. -.. -.-. --- -.. .


... --- - !

.-- .... .- - / .- -... --- ..- - / -... ----- ----- -... ... / .- -. -.. / .--. .-. ----- -. ..--..?

258 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:53:30pm

re: #227 LoFlyer

Thanx for the Mozilla links!

You are welcome. Better to give other people a choice if they are available instead of just giving a link to one plugin. I personally use the AdBlock Plus plugin myself, but other people might find any of the other plugins more to their liking.

259 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:53:44pm

re: #211 LoFlyer

Thats my greatest fear, Iran lobbing a megaton nuke and detonating it 200 miles over the NE US. Every thing within a 500 mile radius shuts down cold. EMP hardening is expensive and not always fool-proof.

Old fashioned tubes were much more survivable than solid state circuitry. Remember the old Foxbat Mig-31 that flew to Japan? It was full of tubes for a reason. Now the Navy is getting rid of Signalmen who know morse code and who can do tactical comms without radio. We are getting more vulnerable. I like good old fashioned low tech gunnery.

260 hillbilly geek  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:53:44pm

The adblock link re: #141 LoFlyer
has a malformed prefix: you've doubled up the http's
[Link: ...]

261 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:53:45pm

re: #243 LoFlyer

I know what you mean, I still think an EMP attack is the worst scenario facing western civilization. We would collapse under a global attack.


I have a 78 Wagoneer that I believe is EMP proof.

And of course, the Winchester operates fine with or without internet connectivity.

262 theparson  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:53:48pm

Have I mentioned that I'm not having any trouble on the internet at all?

263 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:54:07pm

re: #257 David IV of Georgia

.-- .... .- - / .- -... --- ..- - / -... ----- ----- -... ... / .- -. -.. / .--. .-. ----- -. ..--..?

Th' HELL you say!

264 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:54:08pm

I was on Drudge an hour ago- no problems. New comments here refreshes as usual.

265 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:54:14pm

re: #158 experiencedtraveller

No fears lizards! I have an old mimeograph machine in my basement.

Do you really? Can you get supplies for it?

How many of us used to get test papers and immediately sniff 'em?

266 offendi  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:54:28pm

re: #211 LoFlyer

Thats my greatest fear, Iran lobbing a megaton nuke and detonating it 200 miles over the NE US. Every thing within a 500 mile radius shuts down cold. EMP hardening is expensive and not always fool-proof.

3-5 years away. would worry more about China.

267 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:54:34pm

re: #245 baxtrice

It was more of a "So, here's a quarter, shut up." thing, but I like your answer better.

OK, I'll shut up for now. And, I'll see your quarter and raise you fifty cents.

268 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:54:52pm

re: #255 Cognito

I really don't know.

Inside joke.

269 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:54:55pm

re: #116 FrogMarch

Maybe a dead hamster?

Charles, do you need to have a funeral service today? Maybe have some scientists say a few words.

/snicker

270 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:55:02pm

re: #253 buzzsawmonkey

Yeah, me too.

But given the lack of container inspection, it would be easy to smuggle in a batch of nukes even if some were detected.

If 9/11 taught us anything--increasingly questionable--it taught us that we should beware of low-tech attacks.

Been working on a project for our sanitation department, and was surprised they were installing radiation detectors to monitor the incoming garbage.

271 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:55:03pm

re: #139 sammysdad

Odd this should come up because I applied Microsoft's updates this mourning and was unable to access the internet until I did a system restore.


'Mourning' and 'Microsoft' in the same sentence. I'm not sure that's a typo.

272 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:55:06pm

re: #254 Silhouette

I hope they don't realize that Hamtrack, MI, is the hub of all our nuclear, financial, and communication controls.

NOBODY TELL THEM, OKAY?

It is?

273 infidelia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:55:08pm

re: #248 UncleSam

I had the same problem yesterday and called AT&T and they had a bulletin saying the above-mentioned software update from Microsoft was causing a problem with some security software.
I couldn't get on the Internet after this update was installed, but when I lowered my ZoneAlarm security setting to medium I was able to get on the Net.
You'd think Microsoft would check this stuff out before they release these automatic updates, but I guess not.

Fat chance. The first few weeks I had Vista I never knew what the hell I was going to get when I booted up. It seems to have calmed down somewhat now.

274 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:55:15pm

re: #192 Miss Trixie

My gosh. I haven't heard that since I was a kid.

You know, as much as I've run down Comcast in this forum, I have to say they're running faster than usual tonight.

275 Thanos  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:55:41pm

[Link: www.qbit.it...]

276 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:55:49pm

re: #265 reine.de.tout

How many of us used to get test papers and immediately sniff 'em?

Ha! Me. And the entire rest of the class, en masse. LOL

277 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:56:00pm

re: #265 reine.de.tout

How many of us used to get test papers and immediately sniff 'em?

Only Cajuns did that
*duck*

278 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:56:04pm

re: #254 Silhouette

I hope they don't realize that Hamtrack, MI, is the hub of all our nuclear, financial, and communication controls.

NOBODY TELL THEM, OKAY?


No, it's Marianna, Arkansas. (Shhhhhhhhhhhh!)

279 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:56:29pm

re: #264 Jim in Virginia

I was on Drudge an hour ago- no problems. New comments here refreshes as usual.


Drudge uses roatating ads (like a lot of sites do). I think one of those ad sources is trying to install a bot or tracking cookie or something.

So, it won't happen every time you go there, and for some, depending on how high your security settings are set, you may never see anything at all.

Walter in Golden, Co

280 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:56:36pm
281 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:56:49pm

re: #278 Jim in Virginia

No, it's Marianna, Arkansas. (Shhhhhhhhhhhh!)

NO! It's somewhere in Virginia. Near Jim.

/in AR ;)

282 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:57:04pm

re: #265 reine.de.tout

Do you really? Can you get supplies for it?

How many of us used to get test papers and immediately sniff 'em?

Ahh, the ONLY way to take a test in the old days....buzzed on the mimeo fluid. ;)

283 jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:57:32pm

Charles, the folks at the Discovery Institute have found a way to "create" havoc on the web. They are probably trying to keep the web from evolving.

284 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:57:37pm

re: #254 Silhouette

I hope they don't realize that Hamtrack, MI, is the hub of all our nuclear, financial, and communication controls.

NOBODY TELL THEM, OKAY?

That's just the backup site. The primary site is in... okay, I have to say it in code... eccaMay, audiSay rabiaAy.

285 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:57:44pm

Is þere a way to write þe Old English letter wen in ðis format?

286 Tarkus289  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:57:57pm

re: #265 reine.de.tout

I.

287 infidelia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:58:06pm

re: #283 jetpilot1101

Charles, the folks at the Discovery Institute have found a way to "create" havoc on the web. They are probably trying to keep the web from evolving.

Please don't wind up Charles...

288 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:58:12pm

re: #275 Thanos

[Link: www.qbit.it...]

Bless your heart!

289 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:58:13pm

Charles, it sounds like you are having DNS troubles. For us MS users, it means we must reboot.

290 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:58:17pm

re: #259 lifeofthemind

Foxbat Mig-31 that flew to Japan?

MiG-25.

291 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:58:26pm

re: #265 reine.de.tout

Yes I have one from the 1970's or so... (not like the pic in the link) but I haven't spun it in 20+ years. Hand operated... smells great!

292 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:58:37pm

re: #267 sngnsgt

Poker, Blackjack, 5 card stud, or Texas Hold 'Em?

293 major  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:58:50pm

Charles

Twice this month I haven't been able to get on LFG, at all. It's like the server is gone and all I get is the type of screen you get when you try to get on the Internet without any service.

The 2nd time it happened was today at around 10:30 am CT. I don't know how long it lasted today - I got busy.

The 1st time I noticed a problem was in early July and it lasted over 1 1/2 hours, as I recall.

294 jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:58:56pm

re: #287 infidelia

Please don't wind up Charles...


...but I find pushing zombie and his buttons so amusing.

295 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:59:13pm

re: #278 Jim in Virginia

No, it's Marianna, Arkansas. (Shhhhhhhhhhhh!)

C'mon. Everyone knows it's Baconville, Georgia.

296 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:59:16pm
297 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:59:46pm

Bourne Identity is over. Now for Burn Notice.

I'm all machoed up tonight.

Jeffrey Donovan is hot. So's Bruce Campell. Heck, for that matter, so's Gabrielle Anwar.

298 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 6:59:54pm

re: #281 gop_patriot I like Arkansas. Fayetteville HS grad. Little Rock is nice. Ozarks and Ouachitas are beautiful. So are the UA coeds.
I spent a year in Marianna one Tuesday in July. The place sucks, pure and simple.

299 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:00:06pm

re: #283 jetpilot1101

Charles, the folks at the Discovery Institute have found a way to "create" havoc on the web. They are probably trying to keep the web from evolving.

The web will evolve into a living being if evolution is true.

What will it look like?

300 BBev  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:00:14pm

re: #166 Charles

Time Warner Cable is having a major problem.

A buddy of mine uses Time Warner and they have problems all the time.

301 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:00:19pm

re: #297 MandyManners

Oooh! New episode tonight, right? Brb, gotta DVR it. :)

302 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:00:32pm

re: #299 faraway

The web will evolve into a living being if evolution is true.

What will it look like?

the matrix

303 Thanos  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:00:43pm
304 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:00:49pm

re: #293 major

The 2nd time it happened was today at around 10:30 am CT.

Traffic overload. I cooled off about 1PM

305 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:01:29pm

re: #259 lifeofthemind

Old fashioned tubes were much more survivable than solid state circuitry. Remember the old Foxbat Mig-31 that flew to Japan? It was full of tubes for a reason. Now the Navy is getting rid of Signalmen who know morse code and who can do tactical comms without radio. We are getting more vulnerable. I like good old fashioned low tech gunnery.

Sorry, the MIG flown to Japan was full of tubes because Soviet technology was a decade behind the west. That was one of the big surprises of the inspection. No one in the west realized how bad Soviet electronics was until they had been defeated. The Navy thought that the Soviet navy using multiple redundant radars was for battle-worthiness rather than the electronics were so bad they had multiple radars because they failed so often.

306 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:01:41pm

re: #299 faraway

The web will evolve into a living being if evolution is true.

What will it look like?

Not sure but I'm sure Cyberdine Systems could tell you.

307 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:01:43pm

re: #292 baxtrice

Blackjack...

308 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:01:48pm

re: #296 buzzsawmonkey

I'm a Blackjack player. I have a terrible poker face.

309 dsrtegl  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:01:48pm

re: #257 David IV of Georgia

.-- .... .- - / .- -... --- ..- - / -... ----- ----- -... ... / .- -. -.. / .--. .-. ----- -. ..--..?

-- .... .- -- ... / -.-. --- --- .-.. / -- --- ---

-.. . / -.- ----- --.. .-. ---

310 infidelia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:01:57pm

re: #299 faraway

The web will evolve into a living being if evolution is true.

What will it look like?

Probably the cat from Red Dwarf.

311 hillbilly geek  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:02:00pm

Drudge is throwing up a lot of warnings on Safari's Error console...:

Unsafe JavaScript attempt to access frame with URL [Link: drudgereport.com...] from frame with URL [Link: media.fastclick.net...] Domains, protocols and ports must match.

macs are immune to stuff so far, but, as Scotty said about more bells and whistles...

312 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:02:08pm

re: #301 gop_patriot

Oooh! New episode tonight, right? Brb, gotta DVR it. :)

Season premier.

313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:02:31pm

Somebody fixed sumptin. I got right in...No Prob Bob!

314 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:02:45pm

re: #305 LoFlyer

Sorry, the MIG flown to Japan was full of tubes because Soviet technology was a decade behind the west. That was one of the big surprises of the inspection. No one in the west realized how bad Soviet electronics was until they had been defeated. The Navy thought that the Soviet navy using multiple redundant radars was for battle-worthiness rather than the electronics were so bad they had multiple radars because they failed so often.


And Russia is still the major manufacturer of tubes.

Walter in Golden, Co.

315 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:03:08pm

re: #298 Jim in Virginia

LOLOL I honestly don't know if I've ever been to Marianna.

316 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:03:12pm

re: #308 baxtrice

I have a terrible face AND I'm a lousy Poker player.

317 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:03:41pm

re: #307 sngnsgt

Haha! Seems I'll meet your 50 cents then. *puffs on cigar*

318 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:03:56pm

re: #316 sngnsgt

I have a terrible face AND I'm a lousy Poker player.

You guys want me to set up a game?

319 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:04:11pm

re: #317 baxtrice

I Call.

320 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:04:15pm

Pelosi wants to bring the approval rating below 9%.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said this morning that the House Judiciary Committee may hold hearings on an impeachment resolution offered by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio).

Pelosi has said previously that impeachment "was off the table," so her comments this morning were surprising, and clearly signaled a new willingness to entertain the idea of ousting Bush

From politico.com

321 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:04:26pm

re: #277 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Only Cajuns did that
*duck*

Now, now, cher!

322 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:04:43pm

Case may preview August conflicts


Then, along came librarian and former newspaper reporter Carol Kreck and her "McCain = Bush" poster.

Kreck, who came to the galleria between theaters at the Denver Performing Arts Complex on Monday to protest a visit by Republican presidential candidate John McCain, had no idea she would be treading into the constantly evolving arena of First Amendment rights.

OK,OK, but this is way more interesting.

Some police teams have been dispatched to Alabama for up to 20 hours of specialized "homeland security" training to help them navigate the thicket of situations they'll see during the convention.

Among issues they've been briefed on is how to deal with protesters linked by dog choke chains and PVC pipe in what is called a "sleeping dragon."

Then, there are the 50-foot tripods police have been told to expect that will simulate hangings of protesters if police try to arrest them, an effect designed to draw maximum television coverage.

I know they're nutty, but this is just out there. If they'd spend 1/2 the time working as they do thinking this shit up, maybe they'd be out of Moms basement by now.

323 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:04:49pm

re: #311 hillbilly geek

Drudge is throwing up a lot of warnings on Safari's Error console...:

macs are immune to stuff so far, but, as Scotty said about more bells and whistles...

That proves what I thought. Some ad rotating at Drudge is trying to redirect.

Walter in Golden, Co.

324 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:04:49pm

Obama called me. He says he folds.

325 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:05:00pm
326 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:05:11pm

re: #314 Walter L. Newton

And audiophiles go ga-ga for Russian tubes because they consider them to have a sweeter sound than the all digital formats available here.

327 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:05:16pm

re: #320 faraway

Pelosi wants to bring the approval rating below 9%.


From politico.com

Can she say "President Chenney"?

328 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:05:37pm

re: #318 VegasRick

You guys want me to set up a game?

By any chance, are you friends with Dianna's nattily-dressed squirrel who carries a tommy gun in his violin case?

329 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:05:42pm

bbl

330 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:05:46pm

re: #318 VegasRick

Set us up Rick.

re: #319 sngnsgt

I'm in.

331 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:05:48pm

re: #320 faraway

Pelosi wants to bring the approval rating below 9%.


From politico.com

Queen of the cheap shit.

332 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:05:55pm

Evolution thread!

333 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:06:12pm

re: #290 Occasional Reader

MiG-25.

My bad, thank you

334 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:06:26pm

re: #321 reine.de.tout

Now, now, cher!

(((((-:

335 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:06:38pm

re: #314 Walter L. Newton

And Russia is still the major manufacturer of tubes.

Walter in Golden, Co.

Tubes still have there uses. Audiophiles swear by their tube amps.

336 freetoken  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:06:47pm

re: #332 Killgore Trout

Where?

337 ShortBald&Potbellied  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:06:57pm

re: #33 Charles

Charles:

I think it was patch day. There were a huge number of simultaneous patches going on, many in router hardware to fix the DNS bug. I can't find the link, but it was supposed to be the largest coordinated patch in history.

338 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:07:17pm

re: #326 lawhawk

And audiophiles go ga-ga for Russian tubes because they consider them to have a sweeter sound than the all digital formats available here.

And I agree with them.

Tubes have a sweeter sound period. I have 3 1950's tube radios here, simple AM/SW or AM/FM, and they sound better than any small solid state table radio.

339 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:07:21pm
340 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:07:27pm

I wonder if Charles drafts his hamsters from a college program? Or, straight out of high school?

341 snowcrash  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:07:36pm

re: #332 Killgore Trout
Request?

342 Alouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:07:46pm

re: #96 Charles

No ... "can't find server" messages, which usually means DNS is failing.

Router problems?

I used to have a crappy router that could not reach LGF, very weird, all other sites loaded just fine. Replacing the router solved the problem.

343 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:07:49pm

I hope the internet doesn't crap out. I'm finally getting high speed internet any day now.

344 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:07:50pm

re: #324 faraway

Obama called me. He says he folds.

These are not the cards he knew.

345 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:07:52pm

re: #276 gop_patriot

Ha! Me. And the entire rest of the class, en masse. LOL

I love technology. I love my computer. I love my cell phone. I love all the gadgets.

But they have taken some of the wonderful 'smells" out of life - mimeographed papers, library card catalogues - my kid doesn't even know what a "card catalogue" is, much less what it smelled like to go pull open the drawer and start looking for something.

346 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:08:06pm

re: #325 buzzsawmonkey

Stop showing off your iPhone.

Someone told me that the probable THIRD generation iPhone, according to the scuttlebutt, will have a thingy (to use the technical term) so that the touchscreen, when not in use, would be a photovoltaic cell that would charge the battery. Don't know if that's plausible or not, but sounds cool.

347 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:08:25pm

re: #344 Silhouette

And under the bus they go...

348 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:08:29pm

Charles breaks a notionally covered scandal and the thread gets 1,048 comments. The preceding evolution thread gets 1,014 comments. What's wrong with this picture?

349 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:08:31pm

re: #326 lawhawk

And audiophiles go ga-ga for Russian tubes because they consider them to have a sweeter sound than the all digital formats available here.

Saturation in a vacuum tube amplier doesn't generate the (harsh-sounding) harmonics that saturation in a solid-state amplifier gives.

350 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:09:07pm

re: #325 buzzsawmonkey

Stop showing off your iPhone.

Ha, ha, ha, I got one and yooou don't!

351 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:09:19pm

re: #343 NJDhockeyfan

I hope the internet doesn't crap out. I'm finally getting high speed internet any day now.

It's a fad. It'll blow over, like hula hoops.

352 ted  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:09:29pm

re: #311 hillbilly geek

Drudge is throwing up a lot of warnings on Safari's Error console...:


macs are immune to stuff so far, but, as Scotty said about more bells and whistles...

My iMac is rock solid.

353 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:09:30pm
354 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:09:31pm

re: #332 Killgore Trout

Evolution thread!

Just because we're monkeying around?

355 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:09:33pm

re: #339 buzzsawmonkey

My little old KLH unit is transistor, not tube, but it is a beautiful piece of machinery.

Nobody is interested in your "unit", mister.

356 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:04pm

re: #350 sngnsgt

Me too! But I bet you didn't win it playing Bingo! LOL

I'm a bad gambling, drinking & smoking girl!

357 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:18pm

re: #326 lawhawk

And audiophiles go ga-ga for Russian tubes because they consider them to have a sweeter sound than the all digital formats available here.

Does MacIntosh (the audio one) use Rooskie tubes? I thought they were 100% Murcan.

358 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:19pm

re: #312 MandyManners

ty, love that show.

359 egregory  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:26pm

I've noticed something too, and so has IT at my place. But (we hope) it's innocuous. Stay tuned. If it is an attack, Charles will be on it (and the moonbats will be blaming Bush).

360 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:33pm
361 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:38pm

Strip poker for lizards.

362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:46pm

re: #345 reine.de.tout

Mimeographed papers...mmmmmm. Loved that smell (don't really know why). Haven't smelled it in YEARS, but could pick it up in a blind test.

363 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:50pm

Charles, you don't have Comcast do you?

364 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:53pm

re: #299 faraway

The web will evolve into a living being if evolution is true.

What will it look like?

Haven't you ever seen the Terminator series?

365 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:56pm

Politico reports that the House Democrats are pushing the idea of another energy bill:

As early as next week, Democratic leaders could bring legislation to the floor that would force oil companies to relinquish unused land, expedite the permitting process in Alaska's National Petroleum Reserve and prevent most shipments of domestic oil to foreign countries, such as Japan.

The package could also include legislation compelling the administration and oil companies to construct two oil and gas pipelines — one connecting drilling sites in Alaska with a central distribution point and another to pump oil directly from Alaska the lower 48 states, most likely through Canada.

They're pushing to get oil companies to give up leases if they're not "using" them. Preventing oil from being delivered overseas to our allies - nice.

They're demanding the construction of oil pipelines to get what new oil delivered to what new refineries? The senselessness of the Democrats never ceases to not deliver.

366 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:57pm

re: #345 reine.de.tout

My kid doesn't even know what a "card catalogue" is, much less what it smelled like to go pull open the drawer and start looking for something.

My kids went to sign on the internet at Grandma's, and she had dial up. They asked what were all those noises when it booted.

They'd always known a world with wireless broadband. How sad is that?

367 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:10:58pm

re: #352 ted

You get an upding for having an iMac -- is it Intel or PowerPC?

368 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:11:16pm

re: #339 buzzsawmonkey

My little old KLH unit is transistor, not tube, but it is a beautiful piece of machinery.

Tube amps are way to expensive for me. I have found that audio specs only tell half the story. I trust my ears over the specs, and if you want great sound, you have to pay for it....

369 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:11:18pm

re: #348 Killgore Trout

Charles breaks a notionally covered scandal and the thread gets 1,048 comments. The preceding evolution thread gets 1,014 comments. What's wrong with this picture?

He got plenty of page views, enough to keep me from logging on for awhile this morning. I guess they're all just not registered to comment.

370 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:11:37pm

re: #351 Silhouette

It's a fad. It'll blow over, like hula hoops.

WAIT WAIT WAIT

Hula hoops are no longer in style? Why wasn't I informed?! What the hell do I pay you people for?!

371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:11:39pm

re: #348 Killgore Trout

There were only 68 comments on the Evo Thread. Hmmm.

372 ted  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:11:41pm

re: #355 Occasional Reader

Nobody is interested in your "unit", mister.

My unit is solid state.

373 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:11:47pm

re: #318 VegasRick

You guys want me to set up a game?

As long as it's not one of those chip-rattling late night games on TV. That's annoying, and they tell you to keep your hands off the money in Vegas.

374 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:12:36pm

I just went to the bathroom and I noticed that the cardboard tube in the toilet paper roll, on the inside, has a secret code printed in there.

Does that mean something?

Walter in Golden, Co.

375 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:12:49pm

re: #314 Walter L. Newton

And Russia is still the major manufacturer of tubes.

Walter in Golden, Co.

Tubes are still being used here in a lot of high-power output projects, such as Military and Civilian radar systems. I have worked with one system that had tubes big enough to literally get inside the tube and sweep up the metal flakes munged off the metal plates by all the electricity flowing through the tube.

Of course you would only go inside with the system switched off. ;)

376 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:13:11pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

Yeah. It says..."Time to buy more toilet paper."

377 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:13:16pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

I just went to the bathroom and I noticed that the cardboard tube in the toilet paper roll, on the inside, has a secret code printed in there.

Does that mean something?

Walter in Golden, Co.

Is it coded in Morse?

378 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:13:24pm

re: #366 Silhouette

My kids went to sign on the internet at Grandma's, and she had dial up. They asked what were all those noises when it booted.

They'd always known a world with wireless broadband. How sad is that?

LOL. Amazing. When I first got dial-up AOL, I thought it was great. The feeling lasted as long as it took for broadband to be cheap enough to make it worth my while.

A few years ago my daughter came across an old rotary dial phone we had kept for some reason. She wanted to know how we made a call.

379 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:13:27pm

Internet vulnerability should concern investors

BERKELEY, Calif. (MarketWatch) -- Earlier this week it was revealed that a process called DNS poisoning could allow hackers to completely take over the entire Internet without users knowing it. This would put all your online data and even the routing of your email at grave risk.

The good news is that a fix for the flaw has been made. The bad news is the experts say that the fix only makes it harder, not impossible, for hackers to exploit the flaw.

380 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:13:50pm

re: #366 Silhouette

My kids went to sign on the internet at Grandma's, and she had dial up. They asked what were all those noises when it booted.

They'd always known a world with wireless broadband. How sad is that?

I told my son the other day we used to have to dial "1" for English.
He had no idea what I was talking about.

381 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:13:53pm

re: #365 lawhawk

Politico reports that the House Democrats are pushing the idea of another energy bill:

As early as next week, Democratic leaders could bring legislation to the floor....

Gee. I wonder where they got these ideas?

But better late and hypocritical than never.

382 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:13:55pm

re: #345 reine.de.tout

library card catalogues - my kid doesn't even know what a "card catalogue" is, much less what it smelled like to go pull open the drawer and start looking for something.

When my local library went to computers for searching the catalog, they used the old cards for scratch paper at all the terminals.

I asked the librarians about it, and they said that they had a copy of each card stored away for posterity. Which made me feel a little better. Except that I don't know whether or not they're still there, or even if they were telling me the truth. :/

383 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:02pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

I just went to the bathroom and I noticed that the cardboard tube in the toilet paper roll, on the inside, has a secret code printed in there.

Does that mean something?

Walter in Golden, Co.

It means, put it on the roller.

384 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:02pm

Both WaPo and the Slimes come up pretty quickly in Austin, Texas!

385 ted  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:22pm

re: #367 baxtrice

You get an upding for having an iMac -- is it Intel or PowerPC?

Inel 24" 4Ram.
I run Parallels for Windozes XP

386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:25pm

re: #380 SasquatchOnSteroids

I told my son the other day we used to have to dial "1" for English.
He had no idea what I was talking about.

Did he say, "Dial? What is this dial?"

387 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:26pm

re: #358 gop_patriot

ty, love that show.

I wonder if the writer who named "Carla" was a fan of LeCarre's Smiley.

388 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:37pm

Wow. On Penn & Teller "Bullshit" right now, a piece on a bunch of fruit loops in Sedona, AZ (where else) who do some sort of crap with dolphin noises to, uh, energy, uh, dolphin energy, something something. Just wonderful. I'm sure they're budding Obama voters.

389 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:47pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

I just went to the bathroom and I noticed that the cardboard tube in the toilet paper roll, on the inside, has a secret code printed in there.

Does that mean something?

Walter in Golden, Co.

SHOOT YOUR TOILET.

390 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:49pm

re: #377 LoFlyer

Is it coded in Morse?

What a simply charmin idea!

391 formercorpsman  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:52pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

Yes, 20 grit is good for finishing.

392 ted  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:55pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

I just went to the bathroom and I noticed that the cardboard tube in the toilet paper roll, on the inside, has a secret code printed in there.

Does that mean something?

Walter in Golden, Co.

Flush 2x.

393 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:14:56pm

re: #172 MandyManners

Take a fork with you.

Pfft. Just bring soap or a picture of Karl Rove. The pic and soap affects libs like a cross affects vampires.

394 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:15:25pm

re: #375 FurryOldGuyJeans

Hey, I got wunna yer big tubes RIGHT HERE, pal.

/had to say it.

395 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:15:30pm

re: #372 ted

My unit is solid state.

No Viagra necessary?

396 SasquatchOnSteroids  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:15:31pm

re: #386 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did he say, "Dial? What is this dial?"

Xactly. Which is even worse.

397 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:15:58pm

re: #365 lawhawk

More ideas from the get along better with our allies party. Nothing says thoughtful internationalism like refusing to sell Alaskan oil to Japan. That way they have to buy vulnerable oil from the Middle East and fall under the control of China. That solves so many pesky problems. We then can spend more to get Alaskan oil to the lower 48 instead of securing sources close to home in the Caribbean.

398 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:16:14pm

re: #385 ted

I've still got a 20 inch iMac G5 -- running 10.5 and purring like a kitten. Planning to go Intel within the next year. Switched in '01 and never looked back.

399 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:16:20pm

And now... "dolphin-assisted water births". Oh dear.

400 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:16:24pm

re: #345 reine.de.tout

I love technology. I love my computer. I love my cell phone. I love all the gadgets.

But they have taken some of the wonderful 'smells" out of life - mimeographed papers, library card catalogues - my kid doesn't even know what a "card catalogue" is, much less what it smelled like to go pull open the drawer and start looking for something.

A lot of kids now wouldn't know how to do an old-fashioned library search using encyclopedias or other reference books to save their grades.

Man, the smell of libraries was so wonderful. :)

401 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:16:32pm

re: #393 Hard Right

Pfft. Just bring soap or a picture of Karl Rove. The pic and soap affects libs like a cross affects vampires.

Cruel. Oh-so cruel.

402 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:16:39pm

re: #356 baxtrice

Me too! But I bet you didn't win it playing Bingo! LOL

I'm a bad gambling, drinking & smoking girl!

It fell out of a Poker machine ringing! (Or was that a ringing Poker machine?) I can't remember, long night...

403 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:16:56pm

re: #391 formercorpsman

Yes, 20 grit is good for finishing.

My sides hurt, and I can't see the monitor for the tears of laughter!

404 Alouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:17:06pm

re: #366 Silhouette

My kids went to sign on the internet at Grandma's, and she had dial up. They asked what were all those noises when it booted.

They'd always known a world with wireless broadband. How sad is that?

I have a QWERTY keyboard. How antique is that?

(Who doesn't have a QWERTY keyboard?)

405 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:17:20pm

re: #378 reine.de.tout

LOL. Amazing. When I first got dial-up AOL, I thought it was great. The feeling lasted as long as it took for broadband to be cheap enough to make it worth my while.

A few years ago my daughter came across an old rotary dial phone we had kept for some reason. She wanted to know how we made a call.

My first time on the Internet (as in what we get at home, I was on Darpanet in the early 70's), I was using a Compaq 286, with 2 mg's extended memory (manual said it would only see 1 mg, I put in two), running dos 3.1, using the Geos graphical interface and Opera browser (Netscape wouldn't work in my configuration) with graphics turned off, dial up. What a snooze.

Walter in Golden, Co.

406 ted  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:17:24pm

re: #395 reine.de.tout

No Viagra necessary?

Never. Junior works like a charm.

407 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:17:29pm

re: #390 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What a simply charmin idea!

*groan*

408 lifeofthemind  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:17:42pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

I just went to the bathroom and I noticed that the cardboard tube in the toilet paper roll, on the inside, has a secret code printed in there.

Does that mean something?

Walter in Golden, Co.

It means Yesterday was the day to buy toilet paper.

409 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:18:10pm

re: #389 MandyManners

SHOOT YOUR TOILET.


LOL, really loud.

410 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:18:20pm

re: #400 FurryOldGuyJeans

Man, the smell of libraries was so wonderful. :)

I will agree with you on that, when I was 12, my mom went back to college and she used to leave me at the University's library while she was at class. I got to wonder through there and read, and I loved that smell.

411 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:18:50pm

re: #397 lifeofthemind

More ideas from the get along better with our allies party. Nothing says thoughtful internationalism like refusing to sell Alaskan oil to Japan.


My memory of pre-WWII history is a little shaky, but I seem to recall that cutting Japans oil supply was one of the precipitating factors in the war?

412 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:18:58pm

re: #340 faraway

I wonder if Charles drafts his hamsters from a college program? Or, straight out of high school?

They are currently grown in vats full of nutrients. He's working on building them from scratch like in the 5th Element.

413 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:19:02pm

Man am I glad I managed to score a week of vacation, and not be taking calls in the middle of all this crap!

414 ted  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:19:05pm

re: #398 baxtrice

I've still got a 20 inch iMac G5 -- running 10.5 and purring like a kitten. Planning to go Intel within the next year. Switched in '01 and never looked back.

I love it. Wait for a new imac. Should be soon.

415 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:19:12pm

re: #402 sngnsgt

LMAO, oops I almost spit Dr. Pepper all over my iMac..hahaha

416 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:19:13pm

re: #407 MandyManners

*groan*

Thank you, ma'am.
Thank you very much.

/made my day

417 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:19:28pm

re: #382 gop_patriot

When my local library went to computers for searching the catalog, they used the old cards for scratch paper at all the terminals.

I asked the librarians about it, and they said that they had a copy of each card stored away for posterity. Which made me feel a little better. Except that I don't know whether or not they're still there, or even if they were telling me the truth. :/

Now, why would they keep a copy of each card stored for posterity? Why not keep the originals? Space constraints?

One of these days some of these things will be collector's items, you'll see them in museums, with kids giggling over how quaint it used to be in the old days.

418 Charles  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:19:50pm

Yep, Time Warner Cable is having serious problems. Their support line has a pre-recorded message saying they're aware of the problem and working to resolve it.

419 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:20:09pm

re: #411 EC Marm

My memory of pre-WWII history is a little shaky, but I seem to recall that cutting Japans oil supply was one of the precipitating factors in the war?

One of them.
And raw materials in general.

420 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:20:16pm

re: #374 Walter L. Newton

I just went to the bathroom and I noticed that the cardboard tube in the toilet paper roll, on the inside, has a secret code printed in there.

Does that mean something?

Walter in Golden, Co.

Toilet paper = Procter & Gamble = SATANISM!

421 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:20:18pm

re: #404 Alouette

I have a QWERTY keyboard. How antique is that?

(Who doesn't have a QWERTY keyboard?)

I loved the Star Trek movie scene that when cast back in time to San Francisco, Scotty starts talking to the computer, and the operator shows him the keyboard. "How quaint! LOL

422 gop_patriot  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:20:33pm

re: #417 reine.de.tout

Oh no, I meant one original each. I think. Sometimes there was more than one card for each book, for example if there were two copies. Sorry I wasn't clear! :)

423 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:20:34pm

re: #418 Charles

Yep, Time Warner Cable is having serious problems. Their support line has a pre-recorded message saying they're aware of the problem and working to resolve it.

Busted!

424 ted  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:20:40pm

re: #418 Charles

Yep, Time Warner Cable is having serious problems. Their support line has a pre-recorded message saying they're aware of the problem and working to resolve it.

TWC=The pits.

425 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:20:52pm

re: #412 Hard Right

They are currently grown in vats full of nutrients. He's working on building them from scratch like in the 5th Element.

So, you're saying they are intelligently designed? Is this heaven?

/ about that thing I did when I was 17....

426 formercorpsman  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:20:55pm

re: #403 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm sorry.

427 WriterMom  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:21:01pm

OK-don't worry, I'll fix everything.

I'm on hold with Al Gore.

428 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:21:09pm

re: #415 baxtrice

LMAO, oops I almost spit Dr. Pepper all over my iMac..hahaha

Sorry, (runs away...)

429 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:21:11pm

re: #418 Charles

Yep, Time Warner Cable is having serious problems. Their support line has a pre-recorded message saying they're aware of the problem and working to resolve it.

It's a GOP plot! Call the TROOFERS! It's all Karl Rove's idea!

/sarcasm

430 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:21:16pm

re: #420 Occasional Reader

Toilet paper = Procter & Gamble = SATANISM!

No, it a Walgreen's Big Roll (catchy name, isn't it).

431 Reno911  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:21:20pm

It's the rapt...

432 David IV of Georgia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:21:32pm

re: #366 Silhouette

My kids went to sign on the internet at Grandma's, and she had dial up. They asked what were all those noises when it booted.

They'd always known a world with wireless broadband. How sad is that?

I remember asking Mom about why my great-grandmother's phone had a crank on the side.... She still dialed a telephone operator for every phone call in the late '60's.

433 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:21:37pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

Wow. On Penn & Teller "Bullshit" right now, a piece on a bunch of fruit loops in Sedona, AZ (where else) who do some sort of crap with dolphin noises to, uh, energy, uh, dolphin energy, something something. Just wonderful. I'm sure they're budding Obama voters.

Sedona is beautiful country spoiled by an overflowing of leftist crap.

434 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:21:49pm

re: #418 Charles

Yep, Time Warner Cable is having serious problems. Their support line has a pre-recorded message saying they're aware of the problem and working to resolve it.

Just switch your DNS over.

435 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:21:53pm

re: #418 Charles

Yep, Time Warner Cable is having serious problems. Their support line has a pre-recorded message saying they're aware of the problem and working to resolve it.

That's just to keep you pacified and at home while the Time Warner people scoop up all the canned food and ammunition.

436 LoFlyer  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:22:01pm

re: #411 EC Marm

My memory of pre-WWII history is a little shaky, but I seem to recall that cutting Japans oil supply was one of the precipitating factors in the war?

Correct, of course everyone forgets that Japans aggressive and brutal invasion of China and Korea precipitated the oil embargo.

437 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:22:02pm

re: #400 FurryOldGuyJeans

A lot of kids now wouldn't know how to do an old-fashioned library search using encyclopedias or other reference books to save their grades.

Man, the smell of libraries was so wonderful. :)

Yes, it was wonderful. But they don't smell that way, anymore. It was the card catalogues. And they're all gone.

438 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:22:35pm

re: #415 baxtrice

Ooo *patiently waiting for Steve Jobs to harass the Apple employees into creating the new iMac*

:)

439 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:22:35pm

re: #426 formercorpsman

I'm sorry.

Don't be. That kind of pain is the best.
20 grit ... ((((-:

440 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:22:37pm

re: #401 MandyManners

Cruel. Oh-so cruel.

You love it tho. ;)

441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:22:55pm

re: #405 Walter L. Newton

Walter...Is your avatar you?...it is a really cool/dashing (take your pick) pic.

442 freetoken  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:23:01pm

re: #411 EC Marm

My memory of pre-WWII history is a little shaky, but I seem to recall that cutting Japans oil supply was one of the precipitating factors in the war?

Generally it is considered one of the key complaints Japan had against the US.

443 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:23:13pm

re: #418 Charles

Yep, Time Warner Cable is having serious problems. Their support line has a pre-recorded message saying they're aware of the problem and working to resolve it.

So are your LGF servers locally hosted? Or in the area? Or on the Nitrogen Filled Chamber Under the Denver Airport LAN? How can you see the servers and we see the servers yet you can't bridge out? Or it simply a name resolution issue and you have the ips for your servers?

444 ted  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:23:16pm

In NYC, TWC holds 8million of us hostage. Waiting on FIOS.

445 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:23:23pm

re: #400 FurryOldGuyJeans

Sadly, a lot of adults wouldn't know what to do in a library either...

446 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:23:45pm

re: #436 LoFlyer

Correct, of course everyone forgets that Japans aggressive and brutal invasion of China and Korea precipitated the oil embargo.

Bingo!

447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:23:47pm

re: #412 Hard Right

Multi-Pass.

448 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:23:59pm

re: #428 sngnsgt

Sorry, (runs away...)

Oops, didn't mean to scare you away.

449 sngnsgt  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:24:25pm

re: #415 baxtrice

LMAO, oops I almost spit Dr. Pepper all over my iMac..hahaha

Sorry, here try this...

450 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:24:30pm

Can you try to hardcode some other DNS provider?

BTW - wapo is 12.129.147.65

451 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:24:42pm

re: #442 freetoken

Generally it is considered one of the key complaints Japan had against the US.

But see LoFlyer's #436

452 miamitech  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:24:47pm

here is the answer open DNS

453 faraway  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:25:06pm

My childhood Internet was a 1947 Encyclopedia Britannica at Grandma's house.

/ current events reports were awkward

454 larrysheldon  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:25:33pm

The deterioration is real.

I think there are several reasons for it.

Caveat Lector: I have not been active in system administration since 2003 and my remarks were last in touch with observed reality then. But I do stay in touch with people that are active, so I am convinced that I am not far off the mark. (Furthermore, I convinced that where I err, I err on the side of being unduly optimistic.)

First and foremost, there is an enormous amount of malicious traffic in the network. By enormous, I mean 50% or more of capacity is going to malicious traffic. I'll discuss this a little more below.

There is a lot of un-necessary (but not malicious) traffic on the net, An example of this point is this message which contains only ASCII characters, but it will be transmitted wrapped up in HTML code that will in all likelihood double or even triple the number of characters sent. Another example is text messages ("letters" in the old days, not the thumbed-while-driving or thumbed-while-walking-beside-the-recipient kind) that are now accompanied by art work, color, "style sheets", photographs, and so forth that do not add to the intelligence being transmitted. (Messages where the art work, et alia adds to the intelligence are also on the increase, but not by enough to matter, I suspect.)

I think the consumption of network capacity by the "gamers" is significant, but I don't have a sense for how significant.

There is much duplication of traffic due to stupidity is several forms, not the least the RIAA and others who can't see where there future lies. Much of the duplication could be eliminated by multicasting the data streams, for just one example.

On the subject of malicious traffic, I was talking about a lot more than spam and the botnets that facilitate it. I mean all sorts of ugly stuff.

And there is the issue of growth, proliferation of machines, applications and legitimate traffic especially dense traffic like video.

When I was last administering a network, more than half of our connection capacity to the rest of the world was occupied by agents scanning for compromiseable machines, scanning to map our network, scanning to look for routes to other networks, scanning to look for unannounced stores of music, pornography, and so forth.

455 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:25:44pm

re: #444 ted

In NYC, TWC holds 8million of us hostage. Waiting on FIOS.

FIOS definitely worth the wait, but Verizon's customer service sucks and took months to get my billing squared away properly. Did get a free tv and additional discounts as compensation though... if you do run into problems, make sure to escalate it to a manager - they're the only ones who have any chance at fixing things. The computer systems are not equipped to fix anything relating to billing when trying to consolidate phone, cable, and internet...

456 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:25:45pm

re: #441 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Walter...Is your avatar you?...it is a really cool/dashing (take your pick) pic.


Yes, about 6 years ago, about 175 pounds heavier, lobby photo of me for the show "The Mousetrap," role Mr. Paravacini.

I don't usually have a beard, grew one for the role, it's sat and pepper, dyed it black for show, hair is blond, dies it red/black for show, same thing with eyebrows.

Walter in Golden, Co.

457 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:26:16pm

I just checked ebay. There are five card catalogs for sale, but none seem to have the cards anymore.

Maybe they have the smell.

If you have a spare $99-$167, check them out.

458 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:26:35pm

ADELAIDE, Australia, July 10 (UPI) -- The South Australian government said Friday that the education minister had a right to call Scientologists "bastards" in a video posted on YouTube.

Jane Lomax-Smith made the comments in May when she encountered demonstrators from a group that calls itself Anonymous outside the Church of Scientology headquarters in Adelaide, The Australian reports. Lomax-Smith asked the masked protesters if they were related to people who had been "sucked in" by Scientology.

"They should be taxed, the bastards," she added. "They shouldn't be tax-free; we're subsidizing them. I like your masks."

459 infidelia  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:26:39pm

re: #445 lawhawk

Sadly, a lot of adults wouldn't know what to do in a library either...

They don't know what to do in a bookstore either. Today one old guy asked me where the "meadow-physics" section was.

460 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 10, 2008 7:26:45pm

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