This is sad.

Great...there goes Intelligent Design...

I love the smell of schadenfreude in the afternoon

Glad I was able to get 2.0 onto my ipod touch this morning. It took about 3 hours to download the file. UGH.

I read this earlier and had to laugh that Apple can be as error-prone as MS when it comes to the roll-out of new products. Minor glitches, and this was a minor glitch, still won't deter the iPhiles, though.

I blame it on Cabbage Patch Kids™.

Captain, she canna take much mora this....

For some strange reason, iTunes won't even acknowledge that there's even an update for my version 1 iPhone. I smell a conspiracy. :)

Apple and Steve Jobs, I love ya but EPIC FAIL!

re: #4 bridaw

Glad I was able to get 2.0 onto my ipod touch this morning. It took about 3 hours to download the file. UGH.

Can I upgrade my fax machine to get that?

I never did see the draw, I want a small phone

*Chuckles*

Yeah I love Apple and all but this is an Epic Fail. Nice try though. :)

iPawnd

Tornado Warnings right on top of Brainerd, MN, and West & Southwest of St. Cloud, MN.

Take cover, lizards.

A victim of their own success.

Or as a wiser man once observed, "Nobody goes there anymore. It's always too crowded."

Break out the Xanax. I'm going to have to wait for a few days.

Oh NO!

lol Perry

Culprit: Global Warming.

Bush's fault

re: #17 HelloDare

Culprit: Global Warming.

or George Bush

re: #18 bh684

Bush's fault

re: #19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

or George Bush

My sentiments exactly.
/sarcasm ;)

Crap, bought a carton on smokes in Yooper's favorite town today $65, maybe Argentina wasn't so bad $12

oops of smokes

re: #21 bh684

Good evening friend!

Hi Dolphin, last night was late one, six hours of flight delays

I recently 'bought' a new cell phone. I put that in quotes because it was free after four years of service.

I asked the cute, young woman about a couple different phones, and she kept calling to attention the ability to take pictures, and text message. I don't text, for the most part, and I own a 7.1 MB digital camera if I want a picture of something.

When I reminded her for the 3rd time that I really don't 'text' people, she asked me, and I kid you not, "Then, how do you keep in touch with your friends?"

I was buying a phone.

This looks like an opportunity to link FAIL BLOG.

Folks camped out on cots at O'Hare when I finally got here

Technolust? that sounds kinky.

Charles... tell us what is so special about this iPhone?

re: #24 bh684

You're on the move again already?

re: #25 Noam Sayin'

I did start texting quite a bit, and changed phones just to make it easier, but that is just me.

re: #27 bh684

Welcome back, bh!

re: #25 Noam Sayin'

I recently 'bought' a new cell phone. I put that in quotes because it was free after four years of service.

I asked the cute, young woman about a couple different phones, and she kept calling to attention the ability to take pictures, and text message. I don't text, for the most part, and I own a 7.1 MB digital camera if I want a picture of something.

When I reminded her for the 3rd time that I really don't 'text' people, she asked me, and I kid you not, "Then, how do you keep in touch with your friends?"

I was buying a phone.

A coworker of mine sends around 100 texts per day.

re: #30 Dolphin

Will be moving once a week or more until early August

re: #24 bh684

Hi Dolphin, last night was late one, six hours of flight delays

In Bucharest, Romania I was to catch a train. The announcement board said that it was delayed 820 minutes*. I should have taken a picture.

*13 hours, 40 minutes.

re: #33 Hard Right

My biggest day was about 60 incoming/outgoing

A buddy was talking to about getting one of these and talking about how he used his cellphone all the time. On reflection, I then realized in the last year, I've only received 3 phone calls that were not solicitors of some sort and I cannot remember the last time I actually called anyone myself.

Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance

re: #32 wrenchwench

Thanks wrench, it is good

re: #33 Hard Right

...:A coworker of mine sends around 100 texts per day...."

Betcha, he or she is under 30 years old.........

"O2, the exclusive carrier of the iPhone in the U.K., ran into huge problems activating iPhones through iTunes. Macworld U.K. reported that O2's Web activation process requires Windows and Internet Explorer: which is obviously a problem when trying to activate an iPhone in an Apple store."

Absolutely hilarious

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I only have cell, on road all the time is convenient and cheap. I also use skype which is essentially free.

re: #31 bh684

re: #33 Hard Right

Yeah, I understand the value of text messaging. Some of my friends do it, and I do it myself on occasion. But most would think, "What the f*ck is Noam texting me for? Can't he just use the phone that's in his hands and give me a call?

re: #36 bh684

My biggest day was about 60 incoming/outgoing

That's probably double mine. I just don't like texting that much.
I thought my coworker was joking...until he showed me his phone bill. 3000+ texts for the month!
I get fast food every day for lunch. He askes me how I afford it. I simply told him I don't text.

re: #25 Noam Sayin'

I recently 'bought' a new cell phone. I put that in quotes because it was free after four years of service.

I asked the cute, young woman about a couple different phones, and she kept calling to attention the ability to take pictures, and text message. I don't text, for the most part, and I own a 7.1 MB digital camera if I want a picture of something.

When I reminded her for the 3rd time that I really don't 'text' people, she asked me, and I kid you not, "Then, how do you keep in touch with your friends?"

I was buying a phone.

I have a 16-year-old. She and all her friends have phones. They rarely talk. They text.

I think some folks are in danger of forgetting how to have an actual leisurely conversation with anyoen.

lol Noam
sometimes text can be more discrete and less obnoxious to recieve

re: #42 bh684

I only have cell, on road all the time is convenient and cheap. I also use skype which is essentially free.

Phone is part of my cable plan and I still have it if needed. I have a cell phone from Virgin Mobile which is basically pay for your minutes, but since I never use them, its not expensive. Think $20 every 3-4 months

re: #13 Noam Sayin'

Tornado Warnings right on top of Brainerd, MN, and West & Southwest of St. Cloud, MN.

Take cover, lizards.

Just checked it again. That nasty thing's moving in on the Twin Cities.

re: #40 WhiteRasta

...:A coworker of mine sends around 100 texts per day...."

Betcha, he or she is under 30 years old.........

Exactly right. I don't know how he gets anything done.

re: #46 bh684

lol Noam
sometimes text can be more discrete and less obnoxious to recieve

I would assume its easier to text "Want to meet later and hump like wild monkeys?" than to say it on the phone while having dinner with your parents

re: #25 Noam Sayin'

I asked the cute, young woman about a couple different phones, and she kept calling to attention the ability to take pictures, and text message. I don't text, for the most part...

OMG, U R So Lame.

iVolution thread!

re: #49 Hard Right

Exactly right. I don't know how he gets anything done.

Question should be, does he care?

re: #52 Killgore Trout

iVolution thread!

*BARF*

/compliment

re: #45 reine.de.tout

...."They rarely talk. They text..."

Dude, you have not lived until you get an email from the new girl at work who sends you an email in "text".

I had to phone her and ask what the hell she was talking about.

re: #45 reine.de.tout

That's the point I was gettinng at. I sometimes go for weeks without talking to my friends. But when I do, I want ot hear their voice and have an actual conversation; understanding their meaning through the inflection in their voice.

And not have issues over their horrible spelling.

I really like Skype, when I was in Argentina was calling the States for basically nothing.

re: #54 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Cheers!

re: #48 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, it's going to get here within a couple hours. All my crap is under a roof, so no worry about hail.

Got beer in the fridge.

I think I can last until the morning if it comes to that. ;)

Texting is better for erotic conversations. You can read the message over and over and get hornier and hornier. Couple that with pictures of your genitals and you have a cornucopia of sexual tension.

Pubescent teens dig it... I'm told.

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I would assume its easier to text "Want to meet later and hump like wild monkeys?" than to say it on the phone while having dinner with your parents

Harder to say that at work.
You have to text carefully tho.

"Want to meat later and hemp like wild honkeys?"

if have beer do you have ice to protect it or will you just gather hail

Rule of thumb: Never buy the v.1 version of any product from any company. Wait several months -- or if it's from Microsoft it may take several years to work out the bugs in Vista.

re: #50 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

..."I would assume its easier to text "Want to meet later and hump like wild monkeys?"

Back in my day, we used to say, "Do you want to stay for breakfast?."

re: #61 Hard Right

Harder to say that at work.
You have to text carefully tho.

"Want to meat later and hemp like wild honkeys?"

I dont know. I've been known to hemp like a wild honkey on occassion.

re: #62 bh684

If I need to, but I have some frozen foods and a cooler.

re: #55 WhiteRasta

I told my stepson to never use short cuts when sending e-mails. Told him that it was a very bad habit to get into that would follow him to work. Chat, yes. But a big no-no in e-mails.

re: #55 WhiteRasta

...."They rarely talk. They text..."

Dude, you have not lived until you get an email from the new girl at work who sends you an email in "text".

I had to phone her and ask what the hell she was talking about.

Well - you need this, then:

The List of Chat Acronyms & Text Message Shorthand

re: #60 reno911

i think it leads to a lot of WTF moments, their is no sarcasm in texting.

Good thing I'm broke and unemployed!

well you must protect the beer, and keep it cool use frozen foods if you must

re: #68 reine.de.tout

I should go and drink myself to death, right about now........

re: #68 reine.de.tout

that is insane. i don't even want to read it. makes me feel old and out of it.

re: #60 reno911

Is that a phone in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

Both?

Oh brave new world, ...

re: #65 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I dont know. I've been known to hemp like a wild honkey on occassion.

Nothing wrong with that, but I'd rather hump like a wild monkey.
It shows the importance of proper spelling. :)

re: #25 Noam Sayin'

I recently 'bought' a new cell phone. I put that in quotes because it was free after four years of service.

I asked the cute, young woman about a couple different phones, and she kept calling to attention the ability to take pictures, and text message. I don't text, for the most part, and I own a 7.1 MB digital camera if I want a picture of something.

When I reminded her for the 3rd time that I really don't 'text' people, she asked me, and I kid you not, "Then, how do you keep in touch with your friends?"

I was buying a phone.

We're Doomed...

re: #72 WhiteRasta

I should go and drink myself to death, right about now........

hee-hee!

And I actually have one more; a co-worker used to refer to her computer, when talking and also in writing, as YPOS, for "You Piece Of Shit". She hated her computer.

re: #76 Da_Beerfreak

We're Doomed...

wir dumd

re: #68 reine.de.tout

looks like a lot of number codes, how this convention was agreed upon..... but most phones letters are harder just saying

re: #79 bh684

looks like a lot of number codes, how this convention was agreed upon..... but most phones letters are harder just saying

wir d00md

like the cb ten codes

"Crackergate" causes calls for increased security....
Can this possibly get more insane?

As a result of the hysteria that Myers' ilk have promoted, at least one public official is taking it seriously. Thomas E. Foley is chairman of Virginia's First Congressional District Republican Committee, a delegate to the Republican National Convention and one of two Republican at large nominees for Virginia's Electoral College. His concern is for the safety of Catholics attending this year's Republican National Convention in Minneapolis, Myers' backyard. Accordingly, Foley has asked the top GOP brass to provide additional security while in the Twin Cities so that Catholics can worship without fear of violence. Given the vitriol we have experienced for simply exercising our First Amendment right to freedom of speech, we support Foley's request.

Crackers!

re: #76 Da_Beerfreak

We're Doomed...

Only if she reproduces...

Unless you actually are ee cummings, refusal to capitalize could cause the reader to make unwarranted assumptions regarding intellect and/or education.

Or lead one to conclude that you simply don't care enough to do it correctly.

re: #80 itellu3times

wir 666

re: #77 reine.de.tout

I often call my computer a POST. Piece Of Shit Thing...

Cow Backpacks Trap Methane Gas
With Pics!

Ninety degrees here in Mpls, with a heat index of 97.

With no air conditioning, it's 80 degress in my house. Yes, I'm sitting here in my boxers.

This is the drinking thread, isn't it? Can we talk about pistols, now?

re: #76 Da_Beerfreak

We're Doomed...

Teenagers don't talk to each other even when they are in the same room.
They text each other.

and yes - the end is near.

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Cow Backpacks Trap Methane Gas
With Pics!

SCIENCE!

re: #59 Noam Sayin'

Yeah, it's going to get here within a couple hours. All my crap is under a roof, so no worry about hail.

Got beer in the fridge.

I think I can last until the morning if it comes to that. ;)

Best wishes ... prayers ... looks nasty.

re: #88 Noam Sayin'

Ninety degrees here in Mpls, with a heat index of 97.

With no air conditioning, it's 80 degress in my house. Yes, I'm sitting here in my boxers.

This is the drinking thread, isn't it? Can we talk about pistols, now?

Daddy was a pistol and I'm a little son of a gun.

Feel better now?

re: #85 itellu3times

wir 666

Hey! I think you're getting the hang of this!

re: #68 reine.de.tout

Thanks for that. I get a text message from my niece once in a while and I haven't the slightest idea what she's saying. So I just respond with "Yep."

Uh, oh...

I think I'm paying for her college tuition.

re: #73 bellamags

that is insane. i don't even want to read it. makes me feel old and out of it.

LOL! I know what you mean.

My former boss (and friend) and I had a conversation one day, about how people just fizzle out, eventually, on new "stuff".

For my grandmother - it was electronic calculators. She never got the hang of 'em. She just kept using my granddad's huge adding machine, one of those that had about 20 rows of keys that each started at 0 and went up to 9, I think.

For my former boss - it's his cell phone. He wants plain vanilla, no e-mail or texting or picture-taking or anything.

I love my cell phone (and my palm, and my digital cameras), but I'm afraid I'm about to reach the point where I've had it - I got a new digital camera, and find I prefer my old one simply because I'm familiar with it.

We came to the conclusion that this phenomenon doesn't really have anything to do with a particular age, it has more to do with when a person decides that enough is enough, that you have what you need and want, and you just don't want to spend the brainpower needed to learn something new.

re: #90 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

SCIENCE!

ROFLMAO

Someone should photoshop one onto Al Gore's back.

big deal...so it'll take a day or two to get the phone up & running...

/it's definitely the end of the world as we know it

re: #8 baxtrice

Just hit the manual search for update button. Mine said the same thing. I am downloading the update right now, having NOOOOOO problems.

/No fail for me!

I just got an enV--the phone that opens to a QWERTY keyboard. I must admit that texting is fun, although I insist on correct spelling, punctuation, and capitalizaiton.

re: #99 goddessoftheclassroom

I just got an enV--the phone that opens to a QWERTY keyboard. I must admit that texting is fun, although I insist on correct spelling, punctuation, and capitalizaiton.

u r so pky.
/

To quote Nelson Muntz: "Haw, Haw!"

re: #95 reine.de.tout

We came to the conclusion that this phenomenon doesn't really have anything to do with a particular age, it has more to do with when a person decides that enough is enough, that you have what you need and want, and you just don't want to spend the brainpower needed to learn something new.

I think you're right.

re: #99 goddessoftheclassroom

capitalizaiton

GASP!

re: #99 goddessoftheclassroom

I just got an enV--the phone that opens to a QWERTY keyboard. I must admit that texting is fun, although I insist on correct spelling, punctuation, and capitalizaiton.

Was that last comma really necessary?

re: #103 pre-Boomer Marine brat

GASP!

My claws got in the way...

capitalization

re: #104 So?

Was that last comma really necessary?

Wooo HAH!
Let's all unload on goddess!

*rubbing hands gleefully*

re: #94 Noam Sayin'

Thanks for that. I get a text message from my niece once in a while and I haven't the slightest idea what she's saying. So I just respond with "Yep."

Uh, oh...

I think I'm paying for her college tuition.

LOL! When our daughter was younger, and she would babble on and on, I would have to remind my husband to pay attention to what he was agreeing to, because she would throw in these requests for things or requests for permission to do something, and he would just be nodding his head and saying, uh-hunh, yeah, OK, fine . .

re: #91 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Best wishes ... prayers ... looks nasty.

Thanks. It's cool. I rely on that heat island effect to ensure no truly wicked storms get into the city. The storm has already produced six different tornado warnings out west so I set up a chair in the SW corner of my basement and moved the refrigerator down there next to it.

Heh™

DETERMINATION

re: #104 So?

Was that last comma really necessary?

In fact, it is not: one does not use a comma before a subordinating conjunction. I put it there to indicate vocal inflection.

re: #105 goddessoftheclassroom

Give us a list of your students. We'll text message them about it.

re: #108 Noam Sayin'

Good

the other kicker was the fact that the latest firmware upgrade for the version 1 Iphone was FUBAR and caused people's phone to stop working and need to be reactivated. Nice work Apple! BTW I LOVE my orginal Iphone, coolest peice of consumer electronics I have ever owned. It gets an A+ in my book.

re: #99 goddessoftheclassroom

I just got an enV--the phone that opens to a QWERTY keyboard. I must admit that texting is fun, although I insist on correct spelling, punctuation, and capitalizaiton.

Well, of course you do! Wuldnt eckspect any thang diffrunt.

re: #110 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Give us a list of your students. We'll text message them about it.

LOL! I really am giggling!

re: #109 goddessoftheclassroom

In fact, it is not: one does not use a comma before a subordinating conjunction. I put it there to indicate vocal inflection.

A likely excu ... (hmm, do I REALLY want to do this?!?!)

re: #112 chukardog

Love that. And unless you have a landline, you can't call Apple to tell them your phone is f*cked up.

Sprint - never had any problems.

re: #115 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A likely excu ... (hmm, do I REALLY want to do this?!?!)

Remember the LOLcats caption, "Bad decision of EPIC proportions in 3..2...1..."?

re: #115 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A likely excu ... (hmm, do I REALLY want to do this?!?!)

(I just KNOW I'm going to get a snarling Lolcat out of that one!)

re: #109 goddessoftheclassroom

In fact, it is not: one does not use a comma before a subordinating conjunction. I put it there to indicate vocal inflection.

Here's some vocal inflection.

re: #118 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(I just KNOW I'm going to get a snarling Lolcat out of that one!)

SEE!

This'll make you squirt a few....
Fort Worth dad deploying to country that took his son

As a condition for her support, he promised his wife, Maria, that he wouldn’t volunteer for a tour in Iraq, that he would only go if ordered. But Martinez broke his promise this year and raised his hand, hating that he broke his word but feeling that he could not honorably serve with people doing more than him.

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Cow Backpacks Trap Methane Gas
With Pics!

Unlike oil...no chance of hitting a dry hole there.

re: #118 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(I just KNOW I'm going to get a snarling Lolcat out of that one!)

This classic covers it:

[Link: mine.icanhascheezburger.com...]

re: #122 jorline

Unlike oil...no chance of hitting a dry hole there.

You also need some vocal inflection!

re: #117 goddessoftheclassroom

Remember the LOLcats caption, "Bad decision of EPIC proportions in 3..2...1..."?

Hah!

Tina L. - that wuz yer cue.

re: #95 reine.de.tout

Spot on. Technology can be wonderful, but I'm seldom first on the boat. I want to see the actual benefit to me.

Digital cameras? Yeah, I can feel you. Great idea.

MP3 players. You know what? I'm an agnostic regarding record players/reel to reel/8 track/cassette/cd and all that, but show me how I don't have to lug around a semi-trailer load of recorded music and I'm there.

Cell phones. Who was it, exactly, that thought it would be a good idea to carry a pocket sized device that means the boss can always reach out and touch you?

re: #109 goddessoftheclassroom

In fact, it is not: one does not use a comma before a subordinating conjunction. I put it there to indicate vocal inflection.

I think the comma was correct. The LAST comma was used in a series, not before a subordinate conjunction. ......as in
apples, peaches, and pears.

I know that in American usage you put a comma before the and in a series of 3 or more. In Lat Am Spanish, you do NOT......That's why I know the rule and have to remind myself of it.

You just did it correctly automatically......
as would be expected of a goddess!

re: #124 So?

You also need some vocal inflection!

OOPS! That was meant for post #122

I bought this today. Took 10 minutes ,activated in 5 minutes, worked perfectly.
[Link: www.oldphones.com...]

Monkey whores....
Monkeys Practice World's Oldest Profession

More evidence that other primates might not be so different from humans: after researchers taught seven capuchin monkeys to use currency, they soon paid for sex.

Evolution thread!

re: #121 Killgore Trout

This'll make you squirt a few....
Fort Worth dad deploying to country that took his son

(pause for sincere emphasis)
Thank you for that one.

re: #124 So?

You also need some vocal inflection!

How cute...the baby cow sounded just like the mommy cow.

Or is and a coordinate conjunction?
Yes. That's it!
Whatever!

re: #127 wolfie

I think the comma was correct. The LAST comma was used in a series, not before a subordinate conjunction. ......as in
apples, peaches, and pears.

I know that in American usage you put a comma before the and in a series of 3 or more. In Lat Am Spanish, you do NOT......That's why I know the rule and have to remind myself of it.

You just did it correctly automatically......
as would be expected of a goddess!

You know, I thought So? was referring to the comma before "although"--that's the subordinating conjunction to which I referred. The comma before "and" (a coordinating conjunction) in the series, to which you and So? referred, is absolutely correct.

re: #122 jorline

Instead of cow tipping you could just throw matches at them.

re: #123 goddessoftheclassroom

This classic covers it:

[Link: mine.icanhascheezburger.com...]

*grin*
It's so YOU!
*duck*

Strawberry shortcake! BBL !

(Please don't tell Obama I'm going to have a BIG serving.)

re: #136 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin*
It's so YOU!
*duck*

Oh, you have NO idea...

:)

re: #125 Noam Sayin'

Hah!

Tina L. - that wuz yer cue.

WOW!

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Monkey whores....
Monkeys Practice World's Oldest Profession

Evolution thread!

Why is it that I suddenly have this mental picture of a poor little monkey waking up alone with just a crumpled C-note on the nightstand?

I hesitate to simply come out and proclaim "Epic FAIL". It's easy to forget about everything that just has to happen when you set a process in motion, deploy a new release, etc. This by no means is meant to excuse Apple + ATT, it was quite unfortunate to wait nearly four hours (the latter two within 60 feet of the store.)

This kind of thing happens in software. It happened to a deploy I was implementing this past Monday. What should have been a 15 minute exercise lasted 14 hours.

I guess that's why it's unfortunate, but not quite Epic FAIL.

re: #132 jorline

How cute...the baby cow sounded just like the mommy cow.

Actually, the baby cow was a goat. Really!

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Monkey whores....
Monkeys Practice World's Oldest Profession

Evolution thread!

Now we know where politicians came from.

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Instead of cow tipping you could just throw matches at them.

Don't you have to get awful close to throw a match?

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Monkey whores....
Monkeys Practice World's Oldest Profession

Evolution thread!

I'm gonna by some, do this, and be their pimp !

re: #122 jorline

Climate Change Derangement Syndrome.....

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Instead of cow tipping you could just throw matches at them.

Ooooooo. Monumentally bad idea.

Touchdown in Willmar, MN with reports of damage.

Beautiful, bucolic, midwestern town. One of my best friends got married there. I drove about 200 miles, roughly one mile ahead of a major winter storm to be his Best Man.

re: #144 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Don't you have to get awful close to throw a match?

Not as close as you have to get to tip them.

/just make sure you're not in the line of fire LOL

re: #135 Killgore Trout

Instead of cow tipping you could just throw matches at them.

LMAO...don't give the jihadist any ideas

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Pimp Monkey!

I have a cell phone. It does not take pictures, access the internet, or pinpoint my location in the space/time continuum. It allows me to call for help if I need it. It allows my family to reach me in an emergency. It cost me about the same as a case of imported beer to buy and about $100 a year to maintain.

I regard it as a PITA without which I could gladly do.

re: #143 Hard Right

Now we know where politicians came from.

LMAO...that's what the LLL say about Bush.

I move that we let Killgore throw the first match.

/everyone move back ... WAAAAY back

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Dude, found your next avatar

Just for $#!+s and giggles, I bought a 12-pack of Schlitz tonight. If you're ever in the mood for that classic beer taste, I recommend it, or Hamms
& Schmidt.

Just something about those old brews.

re: #148 Noam Sayin'

Hope no one was hurt... Stay safe, Noam.

...Time for dinner here, then it's Dr. Who and the season premiere of Stargate Atlantis. Have a good night, y'all. :)

re: #64 WhiteRasta

..."I would assume its easier to text "Want to meet later and hump like wild monkeys?"

Back in my day, we used to say, "Do you want to stay for breakfast?."

Or the ever popular, "Isn't your husband going to be worried about you?"

re: #145 ted

Now that's why we're more evolved.

re: #151 Racer X

Pimp Monkey!

damn funny...pimp chimp copping a feel

re: #155 Racer X

Ha!

re: #109 goddessoftheclassroom

In fact, it is not: one does not use a comma before a subordinating conjunction. I put it there to indicate vocal inflection.

Gosh, Goddess ... I love this. Years of lousy schooling have made words such as yours unintelligible. Thankfully, God created copy editors.

re: #153 jorline

LMAO...that's what the LLL say about Bush.

LLLs are just monkeys that think they're apes. When all is said and done they are little more than semi-evolved poo flingers.

re: #127 wolfie

I think the comma was correct. The LAST comma was used in a series, not before a subordinate conjunction. ......as in
apples, peaches, and pears.

I know that in American usage you put a comma before the and in a series of 3 or more. In Lat Am Spanish, you do NOT......That's why I know the rule and have to remind myself of it.

You just did it correctly automatically......
as would be expected of a goddess!

Feeling utterly ignorant, now. I never add a final comma before a conjunction (right word?) in a string of words/series.

Honestly, I don't think most copy editors know this rule. Maybe they do, though, and I have been too stupid to notice.

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Now that's why we're more evolved.

Lets see...mow the grass or talk slut monkey trash with the lizard.

I'm out of here for the night.
{goddess}
be safe, Noam

re: #165 jorline

Lets see...mow the grass or talk slut monkey trash with the lizard.

I always thought a good name for a music release would be Satanic Slut Monkeys.

bbl...the sun is setting

Good Evening all, has anyone seen this yet, sorry to go OT monkeywise! I heard thiis on Rush's show today, Mark Steyn was talking about it.
[Link: environment.newscientist.com...]

I think Apple really took a turn for the worse when they couldn't right-click.

Evening guys! What are we debating?

Another cool feature of the Iphone is the ability to fact check you moonbat friends while have a debate. My buddy was railing about the patriot act and that it gave the ability for "no knock warrants". My bullshit detetector was pegged when he said that and a quick google had him back peddling. "Sorry dude, no know warrants have been around for a long time, see?" Silence....

re: #168 jorline

bbl...the sun is setting

"No, my boy, you're confused. The horizon is coming up."

"I know, let's stand him on his head."

"There, you see? Now it's morning."

"He's no fun. He fell right over."

Attention Apple customers - you've been iPwned.

re: #126 razorbacker

Spot on. Technology can be wonderful, but I'm seldom first on the boat. I want to see the actual benefit to me.

Digital cameras? Yeah, I can feel you. Great idea.

MP3 players. You know what? I'm an agnostic regarding record players/reel to reel/8 track/cassette/cd and all that, but show me how I don't have to lug around a semi-trailer load of recorded music and I'm there.

Cell phones. Who was it, exactly, that thought it would be a good idea to carry a pocket sized device that means the boss can always reach out and touch you?

yes, I love my iPod also, forgot to include that in my list.

My husband refuses to have a cell phone, absolutely refuses, for just the reason you said in your last paragraph. He says when he wants to talk to somebody, he'll call them.

Bag phones rule!

re: #129 ted

I bought this today. Took 10 minutes ,activated in 5 minutes, worked perfectly.
[Link: www.oldphones.com...]

And it'll never break.

re: #109 goddessoftheclassroom

Was that last comma really necessary?

In fact, it is not: one does not use a comma before a subordinating conjunction. I put it there to indicate vocal inflection.

I, use, too, many, commas, I, think, I have,,, Shatner's syndrome.

re: #171 loflyer

Evening guys! What are we debating?

The joys/evils of technology, simian prostitution, weather and... "Whadaya got?

re: #172 chukardog

Another cool feature of the Iphone is the ability to fact check you moonbat friends while have a debate. My buddy was railing about the patriot act and that it gave the ability for "no knock warrants". My bullshit detetector was pegged when he said that and a quick google had him back peddling. "Sorry dude, no know warrants have been around for a long time, see?" Silence....

Yup. And when he's around fellow moonbats he'll again insist it allows for no knock warrants.
I've seen sh*t like that from the left.

I love PCs, and had a Palm Pilot (or Handspring).

I hated cell phones at first (only my family & secretary had the number - I hated being distrurbed in the car, whoch I saw as my time away from a phone). When texting came about, I hated it too (pushing the same damned button multiple times sucked).

I recently got a smart phone with a qwerty keyboard. I am getting into the texting a bit. My daughter sends up to 100 a day. We have an unlimited texting plan (and when her boyfriend went to an iPhone - and had to switch to AT&T so the calls between them were no longer free, they were ordered to text only communication).

I am tempted by the iPhone - but I am not certain how I will like the virtual keyboard. ANy thoughts?

OT: France denies citizenship to Muslim woman deemed too submissive

Sweet.

Charles:
When I plugged in my original Iphone to get the updates and new software, it all looked like it was clicking along fine, installed no problem.. then I plugged in my phone, synced as usual, and it all went nuts..... first a freeze, then when I got it unlocked, I was looking at the emergency call screen, in Chinese. Couldn't budge it.
Remembering something that had worked well before, I called ATT's residential department and they got me over to Apple after ten minutes or so..... was told about the overloaded servers, and to just leave it plugged in, refresh every so often, and it would eventually sync up on its own.
It took three hours, during which I had no cell phone, but......
she was right, and it did. The updates are really great..... gazillions of free apps, including one you can use for updating podcasts and blogs from your mobile. You're untethered, Charles!
Some of the apps are just surreal...... left me with .....how do they do that?

re: #181 krm

You will just love it. It's so intuitive that whoever invented that motion-thingy....you literally stretch your fingers apart and together to enlarge and shrink text and pictures instantly.

re: #181 krm

I am tempted by the iPhone - but I am not certain how I will like the virtual keyboard. ANy thoughts?

I was at the ATT store the other day to get a new phone, and one of the salesladies behind the counter was handling an iPhone, and she said, (and I quote) - "I hate this iPhone!".

What she didn't like about it was the touchscreen, and having to move her finger around the screen to do different things.

I've been tempted by the iphone, but in the end, I decided it just does too much stuff, meaning I would have to learn to navigate through too many buttons, to make it worth my while.

#184 & 185 are polar opposites in advice, the joy of the internet!

re: #186 krm

#184 & 185 are polar opposites in advice, the joy of the internet!

Yep, I noticed that too (and 185 is mine).

I guess you will just have to decide what you want your phone to do for you. Me, I don't need all that stuff, and wouldn't use it, even though I think it's all pretty neat.

I would like the idea of the PDA/phone/music player combo - only one thing to carry.

And I do think the iPod is one of the great all time inventions (7000+ songs in that little package and super intuitive to use).

So I am very tempted to go for it. My only real qualms are the virtual keyboard and the accidental dialing while its in my pocket (I periodically have the other stuff in my pocket call the last dialed number.

re: #188 krm

I would like the idea of the PDA/phone/music player combo - only one thing to carry.

And I do think the iPod is one of the great all time inventions (7000+ songs in that little package and super intuitive to use).

So I am very tempted to go for it. My only real qualms are the virtual keyboard and the accidental dialing while its in my pocket (I periodically have the other stuff in my pocket call the last dialed number.

There's bound to be a "lock" feature so that one doesn't make accidental calls.

My daughter just got a Palm phone - has a Palm PDA in it, etc, and has the full keyboard. She likes it, but she texts a lot.

There's also a phone at ATT by one of the makers - Sony Walkman? - that is designed to be a phone and play music. It even has a feature where you can "identify" songs - if you hear a song you like, turn on the feature, hold the phone up, and it will tell you the name of the song and who it's by. It requires an additional monthly fee. I know this because, of course, my teen had one at one time.

Okay, I'm probably going to get hammered for this but I have been too close to getting killed on far too many occasions not to say it: When you are behind the wheel of an automobile PHONE AT EAR = HEAD UP ASS!

I'd rather be on the road with bunch of drunks.

Charles -

Is the rumor true that a guy in a Black Turtleneck and Blue Jeans has made an offer for Stinky Beaumont and the Hamsters to run his servers?

-S-

I've never understood why anyone would want to give money to a company that has such contempt for its customers.

My friend bought an ipod touch. He owns this device. It is not a lease. It is not a rental. Yet Apple has seen fit to design the device so that its owners are locked out of it. He had to use a safari exploit in order to gain access to it, which thanks to the DMCA is probably illegal even though he is the owner of the device. There are hundreds of useful applications and neat things that can be installed on an ipod touch....but not until it has been "hacked."

I won't give money to a company that acts like that. I don't care how "cool" their products are (my dick is big enough on its own thank you very much).

Once upon a time, long, long ago, in the days before the IBM PC even existed, Apple's philosophy was one of openness. That philosophy, combined with brilliant computer engineering ala Woz, and great marketing, is what put Apple on the map.

I cut my teeth on an Apple II+, but I wouldn't buy a Mac or any Apple products today. I'm not going to reward a company that treats its customers like a necessary evil.

re: #189 reine.de.tout

My daughter just got a Palm phone - has a Palm PDA in it, etc, and has the full keyboard. She likes it, but she texts a lot.

There's also a phone at ATT by one of the makers - Sony Walkman? - that is designed to be a phone and play music.

I want all that with an ebook reader, please.

Well... they have to suck every now and then.

Charles, After what has been going on with servers the last couple of days trained hamsters are at a premium. If I was you I'd be rotating shotgun guard duty with Stinky. You don't want to be Hampsternapped.

re: #186 krm

Except that I've had it for almost a year, and I believe the other is based on hearsay.....
:)

re: #21 bh684

Crap, bought a carton on smokes in Yooper's favorite town today $65, maybe Argentina wasn't so bad $12

"bh" -

As regards Tobacco Products - perhaps all of us should become members of the "Pluckaloney" Native American Tribe - as in leave us the "Pluckaloney."

-S-

re: #196 tradewind

Except that I've had it for almost a year, and I believe the other is based on hearsay.....
:)

True, that. (I'm the other)

re: #192 leereyno

I think that treating your customer with contempt is letting your equipment crash even with good maintenance, letting it be vulnerable to all sorts of viruses, etc,,,,,and loading up your consumer pc's with all sorts of garbage software.
I've dealt with Apple customer service a few times, and they have always been much more accessible and friendly than, say, Microsoft reps...... and I switched to a mac after using the Iphone for a few months and realizing how much BS I put up with from Windows.
I don't care if their corporate/PR department thinks its too cool for school..... you can ignore that. The bottom line is, what does it do and how does it work?

re: #198 reine.de.tout

Seriously, to hate the Iphone you must be over-thinking it.... or expecting it to replace your laptop entirely.
It is so user-friendly that a child can handle it and figure out how it works, and I have had a ' smart ' phone or two that I never did exactly get the hang of, reinforcing my techno-inferiority conplex.
These are easy.

re: #192 leereyno

IMy friend bought an ipod touch. He owns this device. It is not a lease. It is not a rental. Yet Apple has seen fit to design the device so that its owners are locked out of it.

The original iPhone was intended to be a closed platform, but with the 3G models and the update to iPhone 2.0, software developers can now use the same programming interfaces that Apple does, and the hack to run user applications is no longer necessary. This is apparently du to Apple embracing the inevitable and responding to consumer demand for the iPhone to be a platform for third-party developers.

The available apps are pretty amazing.

(Alas, despite standing in the Memphis heat this morning for almost 90 minutes, the AT&T store I was at only had sufficient stock for about half of the people waiting in line. The stupidest part is that the AT&T associates were not permitted to tell you exactly how much stock they had on hand until they were down to the last few iPhones. I'm told that the local Apple store had not yet sold out by this afternoon, but if they were having all this trouble with in-store activation, I'm not so surprised.)

re: #192 leereyno

and 199 tradewind

I find it very ironic that Apple for years couldn't gain traction because of their over-priced, closed source equipment. Thus Windows became ubiquitous. (almost 1 billion computers worldwide. Windows operating system in approx. 90% = 900,000,000 Windows computers in the world)

Now, if it weren't for all the "crappy" windows computers in the world, there wouldn't be a network and user base for the i/phone/pod to be usable.

re: #188 krm

My only real qualms are the virtual keyboard and the accidental dialing while its in my pocket (I periodically have the other stuff in my pocket call the last dialed number.

The iPhone uses an on-screen slider to activate/unlock it, making accidental activation much less likely than with a physical or virtual keypress.

(Not only is the iPhone hard to activate accidentally, it seems today it was rather tough to activate on purpose, as well.)

re: #201 Dar ul Harb

So, they've learned their lesson. I remember hearing about 1g and the closed system and figured they'd choke themselves like they've done before but this is good news. Apple makes good equipment and has good ideas and as noted they do a better job with customer service but they've been too anal retentive in the past and paid for it with reduced market share.

If they let other manu.'s develop apps and also add-ons then they might even get me to buy one someday.

:)

[Link: flickr.com...]

Lesson: Buy AAPL.

A rare glitch in the Apple MO.

my upgrade to 2.0 went smoothly and i am having lots of fun

re: #202 jcw46

I find it very ironic that Apple for years couldn't gain traction because of their over-priced, closed source equipment.

Once upon a time they had a much higher price for their stuff and much higher quality as well (using higher-performance SCSI for hard drives instead of IDE, a technology usually reserved for servers on the Windows side, and integrating multimedia and graphics capabilities into their desktops, which typical PCs charged extra for). Now the prices have come down because the Macs are essentially using the same commodity hardware as PCs, and Apple has been outsourcing its manufacturing to vendors, some of which have had some quality control issues. A lot of the technological distinctiveness that made a Mac a Mac has been discarded, so the pressure is really on Apple to get the software and industrial design right. They're victims of their own recent successes, so the glitches today loom larger than they might otherwise do. Apple has always cultivated a reputation of being a prestige brand, so customers are going to be more disappointed if the perceived quality and value doesn't meet their expectations.

re: #208 Dar ul Harb

They're victims of their own recent successes,

Hear, hear! If you do too good a job, you get too busy, then your quality or performance goes down, and then you loose all your customers... it's a viscous circle, I tells ya!

A man's gotta know his limits, someone said...

re: #204 jcw46

One app that I was thinking this morning would be pretty cool to port to the iPhone/iPod Touch platform is the Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator (MAME).

Having a whole 1980's vintage arcade in your pocket would be pretty cool, as would playing Pac-Man with the tilt controller.

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I use mine maybe once every three or four days. I have to remind myself to charge the damn thing. If you go with a company like Tracfone, all it costs you (after you buy the phone) is maybe $20 every other month to plug extra minutes into it. With as much as I use my cell phone, it doesn't make sense for me to get one with all the bells and whistles.

I was cruising through Temecula this morning.... the line was halfway around the block.

Personally, if I ever buy an iPhone, I'd rather wait a year or so. That way, they might have all the bugs worked out or around....

I updated my non-3G phone yesterday from a link that, well, was available for the taking from Apple's own website. Then I uploaded five apps to my iPhone and thought not much of it. This was yesterday. Today the wailing and gnashing of teeth was epic, and I just had to kind of laugh. Apple could have avoided all of this by spreading out their 2.0 extravaganza. But no, and there you go.

Why again, would I want this apple thing again? 3G, 2D, woo-wee!

Hell, just give me a damn cell phone that all I have to do is push a button and say "Hello", then push the same button to disconnect. I don't give a rat's ass about texting, trolling the net, have a terabyte of bullshit in my hand, or any of that nonsense...just give me a cellphone where I can actually TALK to someone! That's all I want!

Sorry, I'm big on Apple and Macs, but the iPhone's sound quality, probably AT&T's network still sounds too inferior to me. I can't do serious business with that crap. Plus, AT&T's network is iffy, even in NYC. Apparently, there are too many people to numb to notice.

When ATT fixes its sound quality and network quality, I'll consider an iPhone. until then, I am a prisoner of Verizon.

(too numb, not to numb...)

and the guinea pigs got angry

Went by the ATT store Friday morning around 10AM and the were already sold out. Ordered one, should be here in 10 days. Hope they have the glitches worked out by then.

Just to offer some balance to all of the "epic fail" comments... that wasn't my experience yesterday. After standing in line outside my local AT&T store for 4 hours, I was in and out of the store within 10 minutes with a brand new 8GB iPhone (they had already sold out of the 16GB's). I am a new subscriber so I didn't have another number or account to transfer, so that may be why my experience was a smooth one. My new phone service was available immediately.

While I was waiting, when I was about 12th in line, the forward motion of the queue seemed to stop for about 30 minutes or so. A member of the AT&T staff came out to tell us part of the reason why... some of my fellow customers had LifeLock or other similar services blocking access to their credit and had neglected to inform those services to expect a credit check before going to buy their phones. Maybe this AT&T guy was B.S.-ing us, but it just goes to show you that in situations like this, it isn't always the vendor's fault when the line isn't moving-- sometimes it's the ignorant fools in line ahead of you that are stopping up the works.

re: #192 leereyno

My friend bought an ipod touch. He owns this device. It is not a lease. It is not a rental. Yet Apple has seen fit to design the device so that its owners are locked out of it. He had to use a safari exploit in order to gain access to it, which thanks to the DMCA is probably illegal even though he is the owner of the device. There are hundreds of useful applications and neat things that can be installed on an ipod touch....but not until it has been "hacked."

All your friend has to do is spend $10 to get the latest firmware and then he too can download and install apps from iTunes. No hacking required.

I'm not going to reward a company that treats its customers like a necessary evil.

Oh please... would Apple have opened up the iPhone to 3rd party development if they were as "closed" as you say? People demanded, they listened.

Got mine this morning. Lined up at a store in downtown Vancouver on Friday the 11th at 6:30AM, I was 12th in line. At 11:00AM not one person had exited with a phone, all the server problems. I had to leave so they took my name and number and guaranteed me a phone. I picked mine up at 7:30AM today. I had to settle for the 8GB as the 16GB sold out in the first 10 minutes.

test

Too bad I can't run my truck or cool the house on ignorance because there is a never ending supply. It's also available everywhere you turn.