Tony Snow was a great man and great American. LATimes can eat sh*t!

Leave it to the LA Saddam Times.

Tony Snow was a man of class. The latimes and their readers are showing their lack of class.

When people are wrong, they sure do get loud.

Charles, you are busy!

relax, it's Sunday. :)

I never heard Tony Snow say anything negative about anyone in all the years I heard him speak- that is true class! Unlike some people on the left.

RIP Tony

re: #5 ggt

Charles, you are busy!

relax, it's Sunday. :)

I think he has us all set up nicely to carry on by ourselves!

de mortuis nil nisi bonum
RIP Mr. Snow

I'm not even going to look. My obstetrician wouldn't want my blood pressure to shoot up the way I know it will if I see the latest "compassion" the moonbats are dishing out.

These people are the enemy in our time. They are the people who poison otherwise perfectly good minds.

They're no better than the teachers of radical Islam.

tony snow was a really good and decent man.
the left has no one who compares to him.

re: #7 debutaunt

ah!

smart man, that Charles.

And they wonder why the readership and advertising revenue of that birdcage liner is way down? Seriously?

One more reason for me to hate the idiot progressives and leftists

Imagine having to live inside their heads. Their entire existence is one shrill hissy fit.

We have quite a few real enemies amongst our so-called fellow Americans. Expect it to get even more openly nasty than this once the Obamassiah is enthroned. Come to think of it, even if he isn't.

There are actual real humans working at the LASlimes?

I thought it was just a dumb terminal outlet for the wire services.

TUBEWAY
ARMY,
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Typical leftist trash.

It makes you wonder if the LLL are so delusional they believe their overheated screeching. Nobody said "rest in peace" for Hitler and, in the fevered minds of the LLL, Bush and everyone who even peripherally works for or supports him is as bad as Hitler, so what's the difference?

You see the profiles on TruTV of serial killers who lived among neighbors, co-workers, and even family members for years without raising any suspicion. You think "I would have noticed something, I'm sure." But then you consider, "Well, if nobody else suspected him, perhaps I wouldn't have, either." Not everyone who's seriously disconnected from reality is an obvious, raving lunatic.

I think it's possible that there could be a significant number of Americans who actually drink the KoolAid, live in the fever swamps, think Bush is Hitler and Cheney is Darth Vader (They're Star Wars fans, maybe), but don't seem like lunatics to those around them. Well, unless you get them started on politics.

the editor is a democrat.

demo-hate is pure and holy.

re: #16 infidelia

We have quite a few real enemies amongst our so-called fellow Americans. Expect it to get even more openly nasty than this once the Obamassiah is enthroned. Come to think of it, even if he isn't.

Especially if he isn't.

I absolutely loved Tony Snow.

I think that the Republican National Convention should print some of these comments, pass them out to attendees and say...

"THIS IS WHO WE ARE FIGHTING! DO NOT SAY WE SHOULD NOT BE MOBILIZED AND BEHIND MCCAIN!"

Then they should print some of the comments on Billboards and say,

"THESE ARE OBAMA SUPPORTERS, WHAT SIDE ARE YOU ON?"

M'fers.

re: #20 FrogMarch

the editor is a Demo☭rat.

demo-hate is IMpure and UNholy.

There, fixed that for ya!

Such hatred for a good and honest man and love for Americas true enemies. Those people truly live in a backwards world.

re: #19 Jack Reacher

I think it's possible that there could be a significant number of Americans who actually drink the KoolAid, live in the fever swamps, think Bush is Hitler and Cheney is Darth Vader (They're Star Wars fans, maybe), but don't seem like lunatics to those around them. Well, unless you get them started on politics.

Oi! Don't insult us Star Wars fans!

:D

re: #23 Macker

Dammit, I better go put my contacts in...I'm frakkin' blind right now...

This was more appropriate on the previous thread, but -- here's a quickie new post of zomblog:

The Obama Meme: Chapter 1

Yesterday I visited a craft fair in San Francisco. I wasn’t there as “zombie,” or looking for something political to blog about — I was just looking to shop for craft-y arts and accessories.

Luckily, I followed my new rule: Never leave home without a camera.

Because even here, in the most unlikely of places, the Obama Meme cropped up again. It seems there’s no way to avoid it. Amongst the handmade earrings and stuffed animals and trendy silkscreened t-shirts were images of our culture’s new folk icon, Barack Obama.

Unfortunately, I was more than halfway through the fair before I recognized the pattern of Obama imagery around me, so I didn’t photograph many of them. But I did catch a few snapshots of Obama idolatry as I strolled through the remaining booths.

Keep in mind that the craft fair was in no way political, and needless to say I didn’t see any other candidates mentioned or depicted. It’s just that iconic pictures of Obama have already become a standard feature in the fashion world. Is Obama the new Che?
...
Here’s a handmade greeting card featuring Obama as a Pez dispenser — or, in his case, “Prez” dispenser.

of zomblog = at zomblog

Charles, you are breezing though posts today! I can barely keep up! I stepped away for a second and two new posts.

re: #27 zombie

Around here there are buttons appearing that say some drivel like. "Crow people for change!"

re: #30 Mars Needs Neocons

Around here there are buttons appearing that say some drivel like. "Crow people for change!"

Or was it hope, I can't remember what I was told.

No class whatsoever....I will not waste my time reading that trash.

I knew Tony personally, and he was one of the most compassionate, decent, and determined individuals you would ever meet. He loved his family and country dearly and was a valiant man. If you want testimonials ask the people who knew him, not the LA Slimes.

re: #30 Mars Needs Neocons

Around here there are buttons appearing that say some drivel like. "Crow people for change!"

"Crow people"? Do you live in South Dakota?

re: #33 Bubbaman

Wow. You lucky person.

Does anyone think that these slimeballs are ticking timebombs? Meaning they will act on their hate and kill their political opponents?

"Hey everybody! I'm a progressive. I believe everybody: gays, muslims, women, and people of all races and all walks of life deserve to be treated equally. I'm so open-minded, I refuse to pass judgment on anyone! I refuse to use labels on anyone for whatever reason because that would be considered hate-speech! What? Tony Snow died? That fascist neocon can rot in hell!"

These people are hypocrites of the worse kind.

I don't care what side of the party lines you are on. A human life is a human life. Anyone who bases a person's worth strictly on one's political/religious beliefs is an extremist.

In Egypt, about the year 350, a careless and sinful monk died and many were saying bad things about him. A young monk asked an elder monk to stop the people's evil-speaking. The elder monk replied that God looks for reasons to bless everyone. If God will bless an evil monk for being dishonored, what will he do with an honorable man's calumny?

If he is cursed, God will bless.

It is a striking juxtaposition to see how the left reacts to the death (or illness) of a "right-wing" guy compared to the right's reaction to the same situation of a "left-wing" person.

In short, the right has far more compassion in the ranks than the left could ever hope to have. This kind of thing at the LA Times is disgusting and far more frequent than people should be comfortable with.

From the post:

6. Why would I honor the lying scum-bag that Tony Snow was just because he has died? I felt sorry for the family when he was alive to have to live with such a tool.
Submitted by: t. robbins
8:33 AM PDT, July 13, 2008

This is what separates us from the animals. If someone's personal political views trumps their sense of compassion and humanity, they deserve to grovel in their own self-deprivation. I truly and deeply feel sorry for those who can't live life without stooping to this type of behavior and commentary.

Shame on the LA Times for allowing this to continue.

re: #28 zombie

hope you got my message in the open thread. Looking forward to your opinion.

re: #34 zombie

"Crow people"? Do you live in South Dakota?

MT

The irony is Tony Snow was so fair and Apolitical. He was so fair and eloquent in front of the most miserable bunch of scurrilous rats known as the White House Press Corps.

re: #36 EIDE_Interface

Does anyone think that these slimeballs are ticking timebombs? Meaning they will act on their hate and kill their political opponents?

I don't think most of them have the courage when face to face. They also are certain that someone else will do it for them, they feel they are the planners, others do the dirty work.

re: #40 lone_wolf_in_illinois

From the post:

This is what separates us from the animals. If someone's personal political views trumps their sense of compassion and humanity, they deserve to grovel in their own self-deprivation. I truly and deeply feel sorry for those who can't live life without stooping to this type of behavior and commentary.

Shame on the LA Times for allowing this to continue.

Incredibly disgusting+vile.

It saddens me no end to know that, not only can people, and fellow Americans at that, have such terrible thoughts, but are proud to share them.

Tony will get the last laugh when he looks down from heaven and sees John McCain in the White House next year.

re: #33 Bubbaman

I knew Tony personally, and he was one of the most compassionate, decent, and determined individuals you would ever meet. He loved his family and country dearly and was a valiant man. If you want testimonials ask the people who knew him, not the LA Slimes.

Agreed, although I never met him, I talked to him a few times on his radio show, even off air, and when he pinch-hit for O'Reilly (He was supposed to be O'Reilly's permanent guest host) on his radio show earlier this year, and he was a genuinely nice and decent guy. He's gone, yet truly hateful people like Jack Cafferty and Keith Olbermann lives. It just isn't fair sometimes.

BTW, nice avatar!

re: #33 Bubbaman

Lucky you!

I'm not surprised. These people have no class grace or ethics. They are spoiled pouty children. At least there were a few decent people who defended him and It was good to see. The rest of them can drown in their own bile.

re: #8 Neo Con since 9-11

The ancient Latin aphorism translated: "Of the dead nothing but good should be spoken."

This is because the dead can't defend themselves. Those who bad-mouth them are vile.

We've all been aware of how the left routinely violates boundaries of basic decency in its collective behavior. Remember the funeral turned pep rally of Democrat Senator Paul Wellstone? The sordid details are described here: [Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

May he attain unto everlasting rest, where the voice of them that keep festival is unceasing, and unending is the bliss of them that behold the unutterable beauty...

re: #44 Mars Needs Neocons

I don't think most of them have the courage when face to face. They also are certain that someone else will do it for them, they feel they are the planners, others do the dirty work.

All planners, no doers.

re: #35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let me relate just one story which I think illustrates the kind of mench Tony was. He was sitting in the hospital room after surgery when a call comes in from Dana Perino. She was worried about a few issues related to an upcoming press conference and wanted to run them by Tony. Mind you, he's recovering from surgery, has to be in pain - though you'd never know it - and he's focused on how to help Dana. Tony reassured Dana and gave her a pep-talk that was nothing less than inspirational.

That's the true Tony Snow.

It's tragic that such viciousness has to exist and be confronted, but it's urgent for us to recognize that what presents on the left's emotional level also is present on the physical and mental level.

Leftists will tear apart and 'kill' someone psychologically - even as pure a person as Tony Snow - they will destroy their reputation, and sully their memory. On the physical level, we need to understand that they will just as readily 'kill', tear apart, destroy, and sully any principle, institution or individual who stands in the way of their agenda.

re: #55 runrabbitrun

It's tragic that such viciousness has to exist and be confronted, but it's urgent for us to recognize that what presents on the left's emotional level also is present on the physical and mental level.

Leftists will tear apart and 'kill' someone psychologically - even as pure a person as Tony Snow - they will destroy their reputation, and sully their memory. On the physical level, we need to understand that they will just as readily 'kill', tear apart, destroy, and sully any principle, institution or individual who stands in the way of their agenda.

Bring it.

In an earlier time in history, there was much the same type of spewing of venom and hatred for certain people, followed by Kristallnacht, then death camps.
If ZerObama is defeated in November, I think we will see some street theater that will rival that earlier period of hate filled history.

NObama!

re: #55 runrabbitrun

In Tony's case, "pure as the driven snow" seems an apt simile.

re: #27 zombie

That borders on scary.

As has been pointed out before, it is very disconcerting that so many Obama supporting artwork bears such a strong resemblance to the artwork promulgated throughout the old Soviet Union, Communist China, Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, and numerous other lesser communist countries. This is *not* a good sign (so to speak)

re: #57 IslandLibertarian

In an earlier time in history, there was much the same type of spewing of venom and hatred for certain people, followed by Kristallnacht, then death camps.
If ZerObama is defeated in November, I think we will see some street theater that will rival that earlier period of hate filled history.

NObama!

I don't think it will be quite like that, but it will be interesting. Expect the courts in every state where Obama loses to be filled with cases.

#59 PIMF "... that so MUCH Obama supporting ...

re: #59 AZfederalist

That borders on scary.

As has been pointed out before, it is very disconcerting that so many Obama supporting artwork bears such a strong resemblance to the artwork promulgated throughout the old Soviet Union, Communist China, Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, and numerous other lesser communist countries. This is *not* a good sign (so to speak)

The marxists were huge on "art for the cause", they believed that any art for enlightenment was a waste of time, it must always exist to influence people and guide them to the right idea.

re: #46 tommygum

It saddens me no end to know that, not only can people, and fellow Americans at that, have such terrible thoughts, but are proud to share them.

how can those scum trust or respect each other?
it is a pit of vipers. hissing.

re: #27 zombie

That stuff really is getting disturbing.

I had fun yesterday in the city as well - droped by the anti-Scientology protest. It was an interesting change versus the usual moonbat stuff.

[Link: www.protestshooter.com...]

re: #40 lone_wolf_in_illinois

From the post:

6. Why would I honor the lying scum-bag that Tony Snow was just because he has died? I felt sorry for the family when he was alive to have to live with such a tool.
Submitted by: t. robbins
8:33 AM PDT, July 13, 2008

This is what separates us from the animals. . . . Shame on the LA Times for allowing this to continue.

Did you happen to notice the nic of the person who posted that? - t robbins. Awaiting now comment from s sarandon

This is another one, utterly vile:

17. The American people 1 Tony Snow 0 There is some justice after all.
Submitted by: optimist
3:43 AM PDT, July 13, 2008

If Obama is elected, political correctness will all but choke the life out of conservative protest. Rush Limbaugh and other conservative radio hosts will probably be banned due to the so-called fairness doctrine or some other repressive measure.

re: #15 Wendya

Imagine having to live inside their heads. Their entire existence is one shrill hissy fit.

Rage is Good. It is almost as good as orgasm.

Inside their heads is an orgy. The afterglow, a celebration of their own moral enlightenment and superior sensitivity. Their quest is for new and more exquisite refinements of moral and political sensibility, their causes are selected in order to stage endless orgies of self-congratulation and to legitimize rage.

Political Hate is the Opium of the Left.

That is why my acquaintance at a party buffet can comment with a sigh that eating strawberries reminds him of those who have no strawberries, these wretched of earth who must stoop and sweat for slave wages to provide them to piggish Americans. Among his own, he will be brought to climax, perhaps together they will be enpurpled, engorged with rage, until hate explodes. "Vile criminals that criminal Cheney!"

They always play to the gallery, the chorus, the mutual gratification machine of the Left that screams, "I Care! I Care Because I am Good and Noble! Rage! Rage against the criminals who oppose us!"

re: #66 yehoshua

If Obama is elected, political correctness will all but choke the life out of conservative protest. Rush Limbaugh and other conservative radio hosts will probably be banned due to the so-called fairness doctrine or some other repressive measure.

But, But, But, Obama says he's opposed to the fairness doctrine. Wait, do I hear a bus coming?

re: #33 Bubbaman

I knew Tony personally, and he was one of the most compassionate, decent, and determined individuals you would ever meet. He loved his family and country dearly and was a valiant man. If you want testimonials ask the people who knew him, not the LA Slimes.

Bubbaman, I'm sorry for your personal loss with this.

re: #67 Joan

It amazes me just how much the left continues to parallel the left of the past. Every new cause is the same old cause with a new coat of paint. Every new "enlightened leader" is the same old totalitarian with a new face and different suit. Every "freedom fighter" is the same old terrorist in a different war.

re: #66 yehoshua

If Obama is elected..............

I'll seriously consider moving to Asia or N.Z.

Please Dear God, NObama!

re: #65 reine.de.tout

They spew out their hatred for humanity and principles of decent behavior but then expect strangers to take care of them without question.

re: #71 IslandLibertarian

If Obama is elected..............

I'll seriously consider moving to Asia or N.Z.

Please Dear God, NObama!

The good news is that he's likely to be highly ineffective. It's like Pelosi - she promised the world and couldn't deliver. The bad news is the judges of course - that's potentially a nightmare.

re: #71 IslandLibertarian

I have an apartment in Jerusalem . . . just in case.

re: #70 Mars Needs Neocons

It amazes me just how much the left continues to parallel the left of the past. Every new cause is the same old cause with a new coat of paint. Every new "enlightened leader" is the same old totalitarian with a new face and different suit. Every "freedom fighter" is the same old terrorist in a different war.

they all insist they can do it better.
actually, they just want a shot at the power and money at the expense of the rest of us.

re: #56 rightwinger3

Bring it.

It's tougher for the right to 'bring it'.

It is the nature of the far left to be aggressive, activist and collectivist in operation, and the nature of the right to be cautious, passive (conservative), and individual (independence rather than groupthink) in terms of mental and physical dynamics.

More's the pity...

re: #74 yehoshua

I have an apartment in Jerusalem . . . just in case.

Is that an invitation? Can my GF bring our cat?........../lol

I think that the comment by the lady who said that just because you died that it didn't make you a good person. LOL!
No, it doesn't make you any kind of a person.

How totally absurd. Some of these people are just plain slimy. They have no shame and nothing is ever their fault.

I actually saw a post at DK where a woman said that she and her Down syndrome son had been seated at a restaurant and the couple next to them were upset because of their son so she immediately labeled that woman as a Republican! The woman may have been rude and insensitive, but how do you jump to the conclusion that she was a Republican?!

These people who spew this garbage do not want anything good or decent to be allowed in our society. They want to be angry, seething with hatred. They hate people they know, they hate people they do not know and they hate people that they will never know in the future.

Now, I don't believe that all Democrats are bad or that all Republicans are good. However, I do believe in what is right and what is wrong. Regardless of political ideology, we are all human beings. So sad that these extremists would choose to just hate people because they do not have the same point of view. They are really missing a lot of what life has to offer.

re: #75 nyc redneck

they all insist they can do it better.
actually, they just want a shot at the power and money at the expense of the rest of us.

If they'd study history, they'd understand it's all been done before and failed. This constant repetition of history by the left is sickening.

re: #72 livefreeor die

They spew out their hatred for humanity and principles of decent behavior but then expect strangers to take care of them without question.

Oh, yes.

Oh, they will pay lip service to being principled people who want "decent behavior", but what they really want is "decent behavior" from everyone else (and that is defined as agreement with them and what they want), but they feel absolutely no obligation to engage in decent behavior themselves if you happen to disagree with them.

I rarely comment here at LGF although I read it daily. I must comment now, though, just to get it out of my system. Tony Snow was a decent man. The despicable comments at the LA Times - and other websites - reveal much more about the commenters than they do about Tony. I am a very partisan conservative Republican. I don't hesitate to speak out against anyone with whom I disagree. When someone dies, that's a different matter altogether. Disagreements no longer matter. Or they shouldn't. A little respect for the dead, and their loved ones, is really not too much to ask of civilized people.

R.I.P. Tony. Yours was a life well lived and you will be missed.

re: #77 IslandLibertarian

You have an open invitation. It's on Tzipori Street in the Baka neighbhorhood. Very quiet.

re: #76 runrabbitrun

It's tougher for the right to 'bring it'.

It is the nature of the far left to be aggressive, activist and collectivist in operation, and the nature of the right to be cautious, passive (conservative), and individual (independence rather than groupthink) in terms of mental and physical dynamics.

More's the pity...

It will be the nature of the far left to be dead should they decide to become physical. I may be retired from the Marines but I'm still halfway young and my eyesight's still good.

re: #78 HippieforLife

The odd thing is, several of the down's clients I work with are republican. My brother has two handicapped children and finds that the people who seem to be more "liberal" in their discussions also tend to be the first who bitch about their kids and demand to be moved.

If the left ever gets enough power, I'd expect them to play out their Stalinist fantasies to the hilt. We're getting plenty of glimpses of what that would be like with their barely-controlled hatred of all who disagree with their orthodoxy.

Well I've been commenting while waiting for my beautiful and talented GF to get ready for our Sunday afternoon outing to the Rich White Male symbol of oppression of the masses WalMart and Sams Club.
Catch you all later.
Power to the Correct People!
(They shop wherever they want.)

Greetings again Lizards. I am now at the airport & have finished TSA security where I was wanded (hip), patted down & had my carry on pawed through. I feel safer fom me now.
It is sad & disturbing to know that such creatures that posted that vitriol about Tony Snow walk among us.
These are the people who scream for every right, that they would not even have , if they actually got the society that they want.

I, like everyone else here, wants to offer my condolences to the Snow family. However i have a OT question i need help with:

When did Israel hit the Syrian facility that may have been a possible nuke site? Was it in September or October? what day of the month did it happen? Thanks in advance for any help in getting me the date

'These are the people who scream for every right, that they would not even have , if they actually got the society that they want.'
Well said, Opnion.

Tony Snow was brilliant speaker and model conservative. But, he was also a Caucasian male. That is what the LA times and its “majority minority” constituents hate.

Unfortunately, racism and hate against Caucasians run rampant in the city of Los Angeles. The Los Angeles Times is happy to provide fuel to the fire.

re: #55 runrabbitrun

It's tragic that such viciousness has to exist and be confronted, but it's urgent for us to recognize that what presents on the left's emotional level also is present on the physical and mental level.

Leftists will tear apart and 'kill' someone psychologically - even as pure a person as Tony Snow - they will destroy their reputation, and sully their memory. On the physical level, we need to understand that they will just as readily 'kill', tear apart, destroy, and sully any principle, institution or individual who stands in the way of their agenda.

It bears repeating, runrabbitrun. Thank you.

Although there are lots of counter comments to the foaming at the mouth progressive hate speech. I liked this one:

" I see that most of the remaining Times subscribers have taken the opportunity to comment on Tony Snow's death"

Touche

re: #88 chicagodudewhotrades

I, like everyone else here, wants to offer my condolences to the Snow family. However i have a OT question i need help with:

When did Israel hit the Syrian facility that may have been a possible nuke site? Was it in September or October? what day of the month did it happen? Thanks in advance for any help in getting me the date

September 6

re: #72 livefreeor die

They spew out their hatred for humanity and principles of decent behavior but then expect the government implement policies to force strangers to take care of them without question.

I think that is a key point of the left. These are people who define charity as the act of using state power to make someone else pay the bills. The fact that they exempt themselves from paying is irrelevant, the proof of their caring and compassion is the ability to look at a problem, then look and someone else and demand to that person, "YOU pay to fix that problem!" It is what defines their demeanor, it is what defines their character, and, as time goes on, it becomes an internal rage against those who have being resistant to the leftist's demand for more "charity" and "compassion" from the person being ordered to provide it.

Someone needs to examine the self-loathing phenomenon that drives the leftists, since they clearly want to destroy the United States.

I refuse to look at the tripe going on, on the leftist hate-sites anymore, my eyes cannot handle the bleeding. At any rate its just par for the course with them now anyway.

Its almost like these bleeding heart, tolerant, compassionate liberals have a contest to see who can come up with the most vile and disgusting piece of profane laden filth, their Cheeto stained fingers can clack out on a keyboard.

re: #93 rightwinger3

Thank you. i knew you guys would be faster then Google

The left-conformists are a bit testy that we have turned the tables on the Vietnam meme and routed their terrorist clients in Iraq.

As Thanos pointed out on earlier thread, however, many of the surviving jihadis have fled to Afghanistan. It is obvious that they will be bringing their financial and western ideological and media support with them.

Look for a serious Ministry of Truth style reversal in the left's phony bait-and-switch support for our Afghan operations.

re: #95 yehoshua

Someone needs to examine the self-loathing phenomenon that drives the leftists, since they clearly want to destroy the United States.

It's been done. The book I've mentioned several times covers it nicely. A Conservative History of the American Left.

(That's the last time I post that. LOL. I don't owe the author anything but my book payment.)

That's alright.

When these freaks are dead and gone, nobody will notice their passing, nobody will care enough to piss on their graves, or even waste time and ink commenting on their (lack of) accomplishments.

This is all that they have to live for in their pathetic, sad, miserable lives - so let them have it.

re: #92 docremulac

ROFL !

re: #99 Mars Needs Neocons

Thank you.

re: #83 rightwinger3

It will be the nature of the far left to be dead should they decide to become physical.

=D

God bless you.

One of the problems of western groups who see themselves as spiritually morally and intellectually advanced, politically and diplomatically superior, blahblahblah ad nauseum, is that they fail to take into account that when dangerously unadvanced groups use medieval war tactics against them - the only way to prevail is to use the same tactics right back.

If you don't, the only ones left are the unevolved barbarians. That is NOT taking the moral high ground, in terms of human advancement.

#94 PIMF again, that should have read: They DEMAND the government implement policies to force strangers. ...

comments at the LA Times do not appear until approved by an editor.

Are these the same sort of editors that "approve" the garbage that appears in that daily fishwrap? You know, the "layers" of oversight that caught all those fake photographs and stuff? That might be our first clue.

re: #75 nyc redneck

they all insist they can do it better.
actually, they just want a shot at the power and money at the expense of the rest of us.

Yes. The power elite on the Left understands manipulation, how to reward and punish, motivate and recruit.

re: #78 HippieforLife

Yea, I happened to catch that post also and couldn't help wonder how absurd a person could be to draw that conclusion. Imho, I would have thought exactly the opposite since we know most liberals exhibit behavoir just like that and think a child like that should have been aborted and hate fat people.

If you ask me the lady is just projecting her anger at an imagined nemesis for being morbidly obese and having a son with Downes syndrome because she really hates herself.

Look I have alot of compassion and think if the other woman was exhibiting such behavoir it was wrong, but the lady did say she was 100 lbs. overweight and had a son with Downes syndrome, short of walking in with a neon sign around her neck, does she actually think noones going to notice?

re: #84 Mars Needs Neocons

Yes, I have a learning-disabled kid, and I've seen the same thing. Liberals are very impatient, not to mention hostile towards him.

Intolerant, Redneck Judeo-Christianista types all seem very accepting of him. (So do supposedly weird, geeky, uncool fanboy sci-fi types.)

I only point out population fragmentation because it is hard for people who don’t live in Los Angeles to understand the fragmentation of this city.

When you are in LA proper you will find yourself in odd world where everyone seems to be speaking a different language. It breeds distrust and a certain amount of racism against Caucasians of European decent (even though most Mexicans are considered Caucasian on bank loans).

This fragmentation is often used by partisan players like the LA times for division and weakening of their opponent.

Here are some statistics from the year 2000 and it has only become more fragmented after that date.

City of Los Angeles Demographics 2000:

White persons, percent, 46.9%
Black persons, percent, 11.2%
American Indian, percent, .8%
Asian persons, percent, 10%
Native Hawaiian, percent, .2%
Persons of some other race, 25.7%
Persons reporting two or more races, 5.2%
Persons of Hispanic origin, 46.5%

Other data:
Language other than English spoken at home, 57%

Census Gov Quick facts

re: #108 TalkinKamel

Yes, I have a learning-disabled kid, and I've seen the same thing. Liberals are very impatient, not to mention hostile towards him.

Intolerant, Redneck Judeo-Christianista types all seem very accepting of him. (So do supposedly weird, geeky, uncool fanboy sci-fi types.)

Hell, yeah. My youngest nephew is becoming quite the sci-fi and comic book fan. (As are my sons, gee how did that happen?)

re: #106 Joan

Yes. The power elite on the Left understands manipulation, how to reward and punish, motivate and recruit.

I see you know how all of the above have only to do with emotional and psychological gratification, it's so easy and immediately effective to use these methods to get subjects voters to fall in line. Even the use of money as reward (i.e. government checks and payments) appeals to instant gratification.

It is so much quicker to use these principles to condition the electorate. Teaching history and logic, in terms of policy creation and its long-term ramifications takes time and effort - it's a generational project, nearly hopeless given the direction of our present academic system.

I love pointing this out to lefties but look at the different reactions between the left and right to illness or death of one's political opponents.

Case in point: Ted Kennedy and Tony Snow

Ted Kennedy gets brain cancer, everyone on the right, even though we think he's a liberal jackass of the first order, wished him well and a speedy recovery.

Tony Snow dies after a long fight with colon cancer, and the left screams that it didn't come soon enough or why couldn't Bush get cancer and die too.

It'd be nice to have a top level post from Charles itemizing these differences.

re: #102 yehoshua

Thank you.

No problem. It's an amazing book, almost exactly like the one I wish I could have written. (Though I was only going to focus on their love of communism in the 30's and 40's. I didn't realize that they were infatuated with communist style movements all the way back to damn near the founding of this country.)

re: #111 runrabbitrun

I see you know how all of the above have only to do with emotional and psychological gratification, it's so easy and immediately effective to use these methods to get subjects voters to fall in line. Even the use of money as reward (i.e. government checks and payments) appeals to instant gratification.

It is so much quicker to use these principles to condition the electorate. Teaching history and logic, in terms of policy creation and its long-term ramifications takes time and effort - it's a generational project, nearly hopeless given the direction of our present academic system.

The big problem isn't that they have this kind of illness, it's that they want everyone else to have it too, by force if necessary.

re: #112 pimp_conservative

Eggcellent point!

re: #84 Mars Needs Neocons
Yes, I have noticed that among the loving liberals. Their "milk of human kindness" is sour.

re: #108 TalkinKamel

Yes, I have a learning-disabled kid, and I've seen the same thing. Liberals are very impatient, not to mention hostile towards him.

Intolerant, Redneck Judeo-Christianista types all seem very accepting of him. (So do supposedly weird, geeky, uncool fanboy sci-fi types.)

I am both a redneck Judeo-Christianista and a weird, geeky, sci-fi type. In my dealings with those designated as "learning disabled," I have often gotten the spooky feeling that things could well be the other way around and they know something about reality that the rest of us don't even suspect.

It is becoming more and more apparent that the far left is bereft of common decency and decorum.

This was, by almost any measure, one of the nicest gentlemen in Washington - liked by many on the left and right.

However, when one cannot expect any semblance of reason or analytical thought behind an almost theological zeal for their far left causes, why would one expect decency.

Now, as a maninthemiddle, I recognize that the denizens of the far right might have many of the same distasteful attributes - but the followers of John Birch do not have hundreds of millions in funding and large following.

re: #117 Shiplord Kirel

Yes, I've often gotten the same impression myself.

re: #110 Mars Needs Neocons

Hmmm, I dunno how that could've happened. Mysterious brain waves from the planet MuArae?

(Whatever the cause, I love it!)

re: #117 Shiplord Kirel

I am both a redneck Judeo-Christianista and a weird, geeky, sci-fi type. In my dealings with those designated as "learning disabled," I have often gotten the spooky feeling that things could well be the other way around and they know something about reality that the rest of us don't even suspect.

A slip on the ice is all it takes. (My father's favorite saying to jackasses who disparage the handicapped)

re: #117 Shiplord Kirel

I am both a redneck Judeo-Christianista and a weird, geeky, sci-fi type. In my dealings with those designated as "learning disabled," I have often gotten the spooky feeling that things could well be the other way around and they know something about reality that the rest of us don't even suspect.

They do know something we don't. They understand how to behave like a human. (well, most. Some guys and gals I know can be pretty vicious.)

re: #120 TalkinKamel

Hmmm, I dunno how that could've happened. Mysterious brain waves from the planet MuArae?

(Whatever the cause, I love it!)

Me too. My kids are so thrilled at my comic collection on my hard drive. My nephew has started to figure out how to get to the comics on his dads comp too.

I honestly fear for America. When did it happen....that people can be so hateful and vile. My friends who lean left seem to be becoming more hateful and assured of conspiracies speaking as though the facts are obvious. And I am finding I have to move away from them, socially, because I think they are going nuts or something. Seriously, it feels like the twilight zone sometimes when they start "discussing". The kind of vitrol spouted about Tony Snow shows the soul-less nature of a large share of the left.

re: #121 Mars Needs Neocons

LOL!

Kid Kamel likes comic books too, and is impatiently awaiting San Diego comic-con, which we're going to take him to soon! (He also likes Star Wars and robots of any kind.)

re: #124 Capitalistincharge

I know, it worries me too, and I'm really worried about what the end result of all this vitriol and hostility is going to be.

re: #125 TalkinKamel

LOL!

Kid Kamel likes comic books too, and is impatiently awaiting San Diego comic-con, which we're going to take him to soon! (He also likes Star Wars and robots of any kind.)

Love to someday, but we don't get any con's in this part of the country.

I wonder who even reads the LA Times anymore. Their subscribers are now so few that the paper is really hurting. I had a call a few days ago from the LA Times to see if I would subscribe to the newspaper. I told them I did not want a paper with such a liberal bias that all it was anymore was a propaganda rag. The person calling did not take kindly to my comments so we just hung up on each other.

disgusting

I think it's time to begin contacting advertisers in the L.A. Times. Vile hatred needs to be confronted and acted upon. Hate speech serves no good purpose. Free Speech yes! But FREE REACTION too. I'm letting L.A. Times advertisers know that I won't be purchasing their products.

re: #127 Mars Needs Neocons

You may, someday. I'll keep my hooves crossed for you.

re: #131 TalkinKamel

You may, someday. I'll keep my hooves crossed for you.

LOL

Forgive me if I don't hold my breath.

re: #39 psyop

It is a striking juxtaposition to see how the left reacts to the death (or illness) of a "right-wing" guy compared to the right's reaction to the same situation of a "left-wing" person.

In short, the right has far more compassion in the ranks than the left could ever hope to have. This kind of thing at the LA Times is disgusting and far more frequent than people should be comfortable with.

I concur completely. One of the reasons I like LGF and other conservative blogs is because although there are many politicians/public figures in the world many of us don't particularly like, LGF doesn't ever turn into a vile hate fest.

9. I see that most of the remaining Times subscribers have taken the opportunity to comment on Tony Snow's death. He was a class act and your news item and obit were both well done. I can't say the same for most comments. The reason is that conservatives consider their opponents wrong but leftists are certain their opponents are evil. The difference is similar to that between adults and children.
Submitted by: Michael Kennedy
7:32 AM PDT, July 13, 2008

Emphasis Added.

I like this comment about the difference between liberals and conservatives.

The left wing blogs are celebrating and congratulating each other on the death of Tony Snow, just as they did for Jesse Helms. It was inevitable that their poison would seep into a liberal newspaper (and it's probably not just the LA Times)

Back in 2003 I attended an Ian Andersen (of Jethro Tull fame) concert at George Washington University. Tony Snow was the guest musician. He was very charming and an excellent flautist. Near the end the audience gave him a nice round of applause in a situation that didn't call for it.

Apparently, the readers of the L.A. Times are for the most part Kos Kidz. Not much of a surprise. When you're as partisan as that rag, eventually the only ones who'll read what you have to write/say are those who agree with your misguided world view.

BHG

I can remember a time when the only way for the cook-fringe left to get their message out was to mail bombs in an attempt to get newspapers to print their manifesto's. Now the bombs are in the messages. I guess they did learn something from the uni-bomber.
As far as how they treated the dear departed Tony Snow, don't be suprised how they talk about their own when they die. Pay attention Teddy!

The retarded evil LA Slimes comments are Snow good. So let's try to pack them with Pro Tony comments! Ahh then again, they'd know we care about what they think- and we don't.

Yahoo's article about Ton's death was very nasty. Accusing Tony of ruining the Presidential press briefings by turning them into a partisan event rather than fact finding.

From everything I have heard and read he was a very nice person. How sad that the LA Slimes and Yahoo feel it necessary criticize the dead.

It's quite clear to me from this thread that Tony Snow was a class act both publicly and in his private life. It's always tough when one of the good guys goes down!

Frater, Ave atque vale! [Link: www.answers.com...]

The commenters and the LALALALALALALA Times continue to validate my opinion on California and a vast majority of the people that suck valuable oxygen from the skies out there.

Most of my sane relatives vacated that hellhole years ago. A few insane ones remain. They can have it.

The

LALALALALALALALA Times

doesn't deserve to even speak of people like Tony Snow. Their entire staff doesn't have the brains, sense and class that Snow possessed.

Another dinosaur-era paper that just needs to declare bankruptcy and shut its presses down, then melt them down to make ammunition, or something else equally useful!

I sent this, but doubt they will be very moved....

The viciousness and tastelessness of the comments that are supposedly edited before being posted re the death of Tony Snow are beyond the pale...
Evidently, only comments that don't fit with the LA Times' editorial policies are screened.
Please take a look, and have some decency.

Those comments just re-affirmed my core belief that leftist liberals are nothing more than self centered neanderthals hell bent on subjugating the rest of society with their hedonistic "idealistic" thinking. The comments show just how fu@$#@ing depraved they are as a life form on this planet.

ZZ

Let me add. I don't recall comments like that here when Ted Kennedy's brain tumor was announced. Let me say it feel good being part of a community that takes the high road when it should and reserves our wrath on the accursed islamo-facists that are out there more than happy to close down the LA Times and every outlet of free expression if they could.

re: #146 ZardozZ

Let me add. I don't recall comments like that here when Ted Kennedy's brain tumor was announced. Let me say it feel good being part of a community that takes the high road when it should and reserves our wrath on the accursed islamo-facists that are out there more than happy to close down the LA Times and every outlet of free expression if they could.

That's because they were deleted.

re: #147 kansas

That's because they were deleted.

Even then there were very few.

re: #148 Mars Needs Neocons

Even then there were very few.

You are right about that. I can't even bring myself to read Dem drivel, but Charles kept this site from devolution.

re: #59 AZfederalist

That borders on scary.

As has been pointed out before, it is very disconcerting that so many Obama supporting artwork bears such a strong resemblance to the artwork promulgated throughout the old Soviet Union, Communist China, Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, and numerous other lesser communist countries. This is *not* a good sign (so to speak)

Somewhere out there in the pits of Hell the framers of Germany in the 1930's are laughing out loud as men of good will are threatened with monstrous hate.

re: #27 zombie

This was more appropriate on the previous thread, but -- here's a quickie new post of zomblog:

The Obama Meme: Chapter 1

Yesterday I visited a craft fair in San Francisco. I wasn’t there as “zombie,” or looking for something political to blog about — I was just looking to shop for craft-y arts and accessories.
Luckily, I followed my new rule: Never leave home without a camera.

Because even here, in the most unlikely of places, the Obama Meme cropped up again. It seems there’s no way to avoid it. Amongst the handmade earrings and stuffed animals and trendy silkscreened t-shirts were images of our culture’s new folk icon, Barack Obama.

Unfortunately, I was more than halfway through the fair before I recognized the pattern of Obama imagery around me, so I didn’t photograph many of them. But I did catch a few snapshots of Obama idolatry as I strolled through the remaining booths.

Keep in mind that the craft fair was in no way political, and needless to say I didn’t see any other candidates mentioned or depicted. It’s just that iconic pictures of Obama have already become a standard feature in the fashion world. Is Obama the new Che?
...
Here’s a handmade greeting card featuring Obama as a Pez dispenser — or, in his case, “Prez” dispenser.

To lefties, everything is and must be political.
Politics must rule every moment of existence.
Just as, to Islamists, every moment of life must be dictated by Islam.

re: #151 UncleSam

"Is Obama the new Che?" -

That is brilliant.

I nominate it for new rotating title!

re: #151 UncleSam

To lefties, everything is and must be political.
Politics must rule every moment of existence.
Just as, to Islamists, every moment of life must be dictated by Islam.

For many on the far left, politics serves the same purpose as religion.

This has become so typical of the left. It's not enough to have disagreements about politics with people, they must demonize and show their utter disdain and contempt without any room for simple human decency. Even after death they continue their expressions of self-righteous hate. Quite disgusting, indeed. I had to stop reading that vicious bile lest my blood pressure shoot up.

Contrast this typically "Kosnian" hate fest with reactions by many conservatives in the blogosphere to the news of Sen. Kennedy's brain cancer. With few exceptions, the comments expressed sorrow over his condition and best wishes to him and his family. Despite the fact he is Public Enemy No. 1 to many of conservatives, myself included, most of us still found room in our hearts to express simple sympathy with a suffering fellow human being and his family. It was actually on of my proudest moments as a conservative, and I was impressed by the caliber of many people who call themselves "Conservative." As well as the caliber of people who post here and some the other conservative blogs.

I guess we really are better than that.

This is why you can't trust the hearts and minds of the left...

133. Because there obviously is no god, nor heaven and hell, I've always adhered to the idea that if you are saddned by the deaths of your friends and family, you should equally be gladdened by the deaths of people you hate. Tony Snow was a professional liar and willing member of the most notorious administration in this country's history. I didn't know him personally, but professionally he was a BS artist extraordinaire. This was the best cancer since Lee Atwater's brain tumor. Submitted by: Shaun Mason 4:02 PM PDT, July 12, 2008

The actual comment is here. you'd think Shaun's papa would have taught him better. guess again.

Shoes for Thought, Duty Now for the Future, Spuds!

re: #155 Kostya Lotz

That post by Shawn is an amazing demonstration of how self centered leftist idiots view the world. Since he's decided there is no God, everyone who's saddened by some loved one's death should be equally happy at the death of someone they hate. Of course, the fact that anyone could disagree with his view doesn't enter his little brain. He's decided there is no God, thus everyone should adhere to his silly view of things. Period, end of story.

Liberal Logic (two words that definitely exclude each other) on display folks!

Is it me, or is Tony Snow's obituary the only one that even allows people to comment? I looked at most of the other LATimes obits, and I didn't find any others that allowed comments.