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New Yorker Cover: Clever or Stupid?

Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 8:05:33 am PDT

The July 21 edition of New Yorker magazine features this lovely image on its cover:

The cover is obviously a moonbat parody of what they think are right-wing ideas about their messiah. But they got so meta with it, they ended up wrapping around and making themselves look stupid.

But not quite as stupid as the Kos Kidz, who determinedly refuse to get the joke and unload on the New Yorker in dozens of diary posts, including this 2,353-comment monster: Daily Kos: The New Yorker Obama cover: OMFG, WTF?

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The New Yorker Obama cover: clever or stupid?

 

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1 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:06:51am

Now, that's funny!

2 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:07:03am

I'll admit.

I laughed as soon as I saw it.

3 ratherdashing  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:07:44am

Yo mamma wears combat boots

4 vxbush  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:08:14am

I can't believe they thing that conservatives see Michelle Obama as a terrorist. Where did that idea come from? No one I know.

5 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:08:18am

Wow.

That's so deep, I don't even have a clever metaphor to describe it.

6 Syrah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:08:28am

It's stupid.

I think that Obama would be a disaster for this country, but that cover is just stupid.

7 danrudy  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:08:46am

That was a parody?

hmm, that fact was lost on me.

/s

8 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:10:30am

I vote for "stupid like a fox". Taken on its face, it's stupid. But I think the point of it is to rile up the left-wing base.

9 opinionated  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:10:34am

It may be parody, but I believe the subliminal image will remain in the sub consciousness. Ironically, not so much Barack, but his wife.

And as someone who badly wants to see Obama defeated, I cheer them on.

10 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:10:46am

New Yorker Cover: Clever or Stupid?

The word "Cover" in the above sentence is unnecessary.

11 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:11:06am

Meh. This is the same magazine that had a GWB statue being pulled down after the 2006 "thumpin'" election. If you read Hertzberg & co.'s "Talk of the Town" editorials, they're obviously pro-Obama.

So much truth spoken in jest. They think that's we think, but they've illustrated what has to be the anxiety of much of mainstream America too.

12 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:11:11am

re: #6 Syrah

This cover just toasts Obama politically even more.

He's toast

13 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:12:09am

Flag in the fireplace - nice touch.

14 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:12:20am

I think Michelle Obama is supposed to be dressed up like Angela Davis

15 gutta percha  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:12:31am

I understood the point of the cartoon immediately, but I thought the lady was supposed to be Angela Davis, not MO.

16 David Simon  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:12:43am

re: #4 vxbush

I can't believe they thing that conservatives see Michelle Obama as a terrorist. Where did that idea come from? No one I know.

Note the over-the-top afro too.

17 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:12:44am

re: #12 Ojoe

He's toast

And yet the MSM continue to butter him up, regardless of what a jam that puts them in.

18 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:12:58am

re: #12 Ojoe

This cover just toasts Obama politically even more.


How? Who of the New Yorker-reading crowd will look at this cover and say "wow, I can't support Obama after this"?

This gives Barry the opportunity once again to play the victim. He's loving it.

19 danrudy  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:13:04am

anyone with access to the KOs kids blog...it might be fun to post comments in support of the clever and revealing cover...lol. THat should get 1 or two responses.

20 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:13:25am

re: #14 Kenneth

I think Michelle Obama is supposed to be dressed up like Angela Davis

Dang! I knew she reminded me of someone!

;-)

21 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:13:25am

re: #15 gutta percha

No, that is definitely Michelle's face, but with Davis' hair & clothes.

22 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:13:34am

re: #17 JamesTKirk

And yet the MSM continue to butter him up, regardless of what a jam that puts them in.

Stop that. You're making me hungry.

23 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:13:39am

re: #13 debutaunt

Flag in the fireplace - nice touch.

Is that arugula on the mantle?

24 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:13:52am

re: #14 Kenneth

I think Michelle Obama is supposed to be dressed up like Angela Davis

WAB's afro is nicer.

25 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:00am

re: #18 Occasional Reader

Plenty of regular folks will walk past the newsstands and see this.

Plus it is all over the net.

Ka-pow

26 soccerdad  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:02am

Parody? I saw this last night and thought it was great. Perhaps I'm a living parody, but I was happy to see such a magazine as the New Yorker, with its prominence and reach, give voice and legs to many of the 'conservative memes'. I was shocked actually at seeing the cover, but then when the newscaster said the New yorker stated it was a joke, it made sense. But they screwed up.

Rove you magnificent bastard?

27 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:21am
28 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:27am

re: #23 NJDhockeyfan

Is that arugula on the mantle?

I think it is.

The artist must read LGF.

29 rightwinger3  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:37am

Damn, it took Obama 6 months to swing to the right and New Yorker 6 minutes...
/

30 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:47am

re: #21 Kenneth

No, that is definitely Michelle's face, but with Davis' hair & clothes.

Okay, but is the rifle an AK-47, AK-74, or AKM? That's the really important question.

31 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:47am

re: #18 Occasional Reader

How? Who of the New Yorker-reading crowd will look at this cover and say "wow, I can't support Obama after this"?

I get the New Yorker, but my mind was made up already.

32 Bobblehead  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:52am

Do I spy $600 earrings on MO's ears?

33 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:54am
The cover is obviously a moonbat parody of what they think are right-wing ideas about their messiah. But they got so meta with it, they ended up wrapping around and making themselves look stupid.

From what I've heard and understand, The New Yorker is more pro-Hillary, and not very fond of Obama.

Here's a link to the article in the issue of The New Yorker:

Making It: How Chicago Shaped Obama

One day in 1995, Barack Obama went to see his alderman, an influential politician named Toni Preckwinkle, on Chicago’s South Side, where politics had been upended by scandal. Mel Reynolds, a local congressman, was facing charges of sexual assault of a sixteen-year-old campaign volunteer. (He eventually resigned his seat.) The looming vacancy set off a fury of ambition and hustle; several politicians, including a state senator named Alice Palmer, an education expert of modest political skills, prepared to enter the congressional race. Palmer represented Hyde Park—Obama’s neighborhood, a racially integrated, liberal sanctuary—and, if she ran for Congress, she would need a replacement in Springfield, the state capital. Obama at the time was a thirty-three-year-old lawyer, university lecturer, and aspiring office-seeker, and the Palmer seat was what he had in mind when he visited Alderman Preckwinkle.

34 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:14:56am

re: #19 danrudy

anyone with access to the KOs kids blog...it might be fun to post comments in support of the clever and revealing cover...lol. THat should get 1 or two responses.

You mean something like this?

"This is the Obama I want to vote for, not the one who's pandering to the j000z!"

/Only the Left needs to attack opposing blogs with Moby posts; we don't have to do it to them because they're more than capable of shooting themselves in the foot.

35 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:15:23am

It is seriously ironic that humor-challenged lefties have managed to turn this strawman against its creators.

36 LeatherNeckLady  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:15:54am

Think about it folks -

Had this been made about McCain or some other Republican, Democrats would have been all over this thinking it was right on the money. It's the old saying of they can dish it out but can't take it."

But you have to wonder if the New Yorker magazine which by no means takes conservative views is beginning to wonder about Obama.

37 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:16:08am

Fake but accurate?

38 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:16:21am

re: #27 ploome hineni

...the most stupid thing about this issue, is McCain personally condemning it

He wants to lose, and he's trying his damnedest.

39 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:16:35am

re: #18 Occasional Reader

How? Who of the New Yorker-reading crowd will look at this cover and say "wow, I can't support Obama after this"?

This gives Barry the opportunity once again to play the victim. He's loving it.

It might give some the chance to dig a little bit and ask questions.

40 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:16:56am

Does Hillary have friends at the New Yorker?

41 VegasRick  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:17:09am

"That is not the Michelle that I knew and I never noticed that picture of osama on the wall. Oh, the burning flag in the fireplace just goes to show you how patriotic I am, I mean who else could get away with burning a flag like that except a true patriot!" (*handler mummbles to obambi) "Oh. it was just a joke! Okay, well than, Hope and change everybody!"

42 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:17:22am

re: #32 Bobblehead

Do I spy $600 earrings on MO's ears?

LOL!

43 Bobblehead  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:17:27am

re: #26 soccerdad

Parody? I saw this last night and thought it was great. Perhaps I'm a living parody, but I was happy to see such a magazine as the New Yorker, with its prominence and reach, give voice and legs to many of the 'conservative memes'. I was shocked actually at seeing the cover, but then when the newscaster said the New yorker stated it was a joke, it made sense. But they screwed up.

Rove you magnificent bastard?

No. I think several lizards concluded that since The New Yorker is behind Hillary it should be ..Hillary you magnificent bitch.

44 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:17:30am

I think Michelle Malkin put it best when she pointed out all of the political cartooning against Bush and Condi that THEY don't whine about.

Can you imagine if Bush reacted to every cartoon against him the way Obama does?

45 Syrah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:17:36am

re: #12 Ojoe

This cover just toasts Obama politically even more.

He's toast

I hope so but I have my doubts.

That cover is so over the top that it will work to make any attempt to question the Obama's fitness to occupy the oval office based on their history and/or their character seem just as rude and stupid as that cover.

It is fitting though that it was drawn and published by moonbats.

I wonder if it is more of a reflection of their fears about the Obama campaign then ours.

46 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:17:38am

re: #25 Ojoe

Plenty of regular folks will walk past the newsstands and see this.

Plus it is all over the net.

Ka-pow

See ploome's link in #27:

The magazine explains at the start of its news release previewing the issue: “On the cover of the July 21, 2008, issue of the The New Yorker, in ‘The Politics of Fear,’ artist Barry Blitt satirizes the use of scare tactics and misinformation in the Presidential election to derail Barack Obama’s campaign.”

The medium is the message. "Any criticism of Barry is just the politics of fear."

47 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:17:55am

re: #40 SpartanWoman

Does Hillary have friends at the New Yorker?

Yes, apparently the editorial board is on her side.

48 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:18:01am

re: #37 Dar ul Harb

Fake but accurate?

Not until we get a throbbing GIF!

49 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:18:25am

One need only look at this "classic" cover to see The New Yorker's view of America.

I have no use for these people...

50 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:18:29am

I do like Michelle's Angela Davis afro.

The only thing missing is aChe Guevara flag hanging on the wall.

51 Syrah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:19:02am

re: #15 gutta percha

I understood the point of the cartoon immediately, but I thought the lady was supposed to be Angela Davis, not MO.

That was my thought too. It looks more like Angela Davis than it looks like Michelle Obama.

52 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:19:10am

OK - This just BEGS for a lizard caption contest! I'll start:

In This Week's Issue - The Politics of Fear - Why do Liberals Think Joe America Can Only See Characatures?

53 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:19:11am

re: #44 rlevitin

I think Michelle Malkin put it best when she pointed out all of the political cartooning against Bush and Condi that THEY don't whine about.

But neither of them is the Mahdi; it is not haram-scaram to mock them.

54 Shropshire_Slasher  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:19:14am

If I was an educated democrat, I would love this cartoon. People who can't make fun of themselves are dangerous. period. Remember the Hillary laugh? Marxism has never been so fun!
barf

55 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:19:39am

It's left v. far left, and it's up to the readers to figure out. They want to blame it on the right wingers. They need to blame it on the right wingers, but the truth hurts - practically every smear on Obama has come from the left, whether it is Hillary's shills, lackeys or other Democrats.

Cover artlessness. The story doesn't help him either.

56 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:19:48am

re: #48 JamesTKirk

Not until we get a throbbing GIF!

Does giving the Obama campaign a throbbing headache count?

57 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:19:59am

I vote stupid.

58 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:20:09am

re: #50 Ringo the Gringo

I do like Michelle's Angela Davis afro.

The only thing missing is aChe Guevara flag hanging on the wall.

Too close to reality.

59 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:20:11am

re: #50 Ringo the Gringo

I do like Michelle's Angela Davis afro.

The only thing missing is aChe Guevara flag hanging on the wall.

Yeah. I wonder why it's not there. Is it because the artist doesn't want people to look into that issue 'cause it's true?

60 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:20:32am

re: #45 Syrah

That cover is so over the top that it will work to make any attempt to question the Obama's fitness to occupy the oval office based on their history and/or their character seem just as rude and stupid as that cover.

Bingo. You said it better than I did. And it's of a piece with Barry's own "they'll try to scare you... 'and by the way, did I mention he's black?'" guilt trip message. Any criticism of Barry is a) racist and b) just a cartoonish right-wing expression of fear of turrurrists. So get out there and support Barry, that's the only way to prove you're not a no-good troglodyte. Etc.

61 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:20:35am

re: #51 Syrah

That was my thought too. It looks more like Angela Davis than it looks like Michelle Obama.

The eyes belong to WAB.

62 soccerdad  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:20:57am

I just ventured over to Kos -- someone spray me.

They had a poll with about 7 answers, ranging from "I'm so mad at the NewYorker that I'm cancelling; to a more restrained "let's just wait and see what happens." I couldn't resist tweaking them with: "what about option 8? I like what they did and hope they do it again. check"

Can't wait to venture back and see how bad they blast me.

63 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:21:25am

Genius.

If FOX News had produced this cartoon the screaming would be heard into the next century. We should thank The New Yorker.

Can the Obama cartoon riots be that far off?

64 Lawrence Schmerel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:21:33am

Did the New Yorker just say "Bawack Hussein Osama?"

65 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:22:01am

re: #45 Syrah

I hope so but I have my doubts.

That cover is so over the top that it will work to make any attempt to question the Obama's fitness to occupy the oval office based on their history and/or their character seem just as rude and stupid as that cover.

It is fitting though that it was drawn and published by moonbats.

Based on that, it IS clever, not stupid. Because coming from Moonbats, they've shielded their candidate from criticism.

66 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:22:03am

The Osama picture over the fireplace is a nice touch; a Che poster would have clashed with the decor.

Add a box of dynamite by the door with a label "For Ayers and Dohrn".

67 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:22:50am

re: #38 JamesTKirk

[McCain] He wants to lose, and he's trying his damnedest.

I don't think anyone sane wants to be president right now.

68 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:22:52am

re: #63 NoSubmission

Can the Obama cartoon riots be that far off?

Heh.

Calling Rage Boy... come in, Rage Boy...

69 FredWM  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:22:56am

I know its suppose to be satire, but when you have to explain a joke it’s too complicated. (By the way, did you notice the OBL picture hanging on the wall?) I'd bet that a majority of the people who see the cover think there is some truth to a few of the points raised.

70 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:23:02am

re: #63 NoSubmission


Can the Obama cartoon riots be that far off?

ROFLMAO.

71 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:23:04am

re: #66 Kosh's Shadow

The Osama picture over the fireplace is a nice touch; a Che poster would have clashed with the decor.

Add a box of dynamite by the door with a label "For Ayers and Dohrn".


A Che poster would have been harder to portray as satire... its too accurate.

72 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:23:22am

NOW WAIT A DAMN MINUTE - Kos hisownself said "FUCK OBAMA" and FUCK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY" because of Obama's flip flopping on FISA, gun control, Iraq, and a whole host of other issues as he "tries to move to the center, forgetting that we (i.e., the "activist base of the Dem Party, according to Kos) mad it possible for Obama to get the nomination!
In fact it was soooo good (or bad, depending on your pov) that Charles had a thread about it!
Now he's back to fighting for Obama?!

73 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:23:35am

re: #50 Ringo the GringoThe only thing missing is aChe Guevara flag hanging on the wall.

re: #58 JamesTKirk

Too close to reality.

re: #59 MandyManners

...Is it because the artist doesn't want people to look into that issue 'cause it's true?

Great minds think alike...

...and so do ours.

74 Born_to_lose  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:24:13am

Pretty much as soon as I saw this, I think last night, I gave it a hearty "ha-HA!" and then proceeded to enjoy the ensuing madness and panty bunching that occured amongst the bleeding hearts. ;o)

75 DistantThunder  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:24:21am

Frankly, the most damning picture of Obama is him standing with hands clasped, while the anthem is played. in front of a flag, while others stand with their hands on their hearts.

A picture is worth a million words.

76 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:24:28am

I think the New Yorker cover is stupid on an epic scale.

Here's why:

First of all, it will piss off the blindered Kos Kids Krowd, who stubbornly refuse to see the irony-within-irony humor of it.

Secondly, it will piss off a lot of political-junkie Obama-dislikers, because it misconstrues and mocks our real reason for disliking him.

But most importantly, it will awaken new-found fears in people who don't really follow politics and who aren't plugged into the rumor-a-minute scandal mill. They'll look at that cover, and for the first time ever, they'll get the message that at least some people think Michelle Obama is a black revolutionary, that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim, that their victory will be seen as a Manchurian Candidate-style seizing of the White House by radical Islamists.

And even though the average nonpolitical person will likely dismiss such notions at first, I suspect the image will stay in the backs of their minds, rankling and festering, and creating great deep-seated fear.

77 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:24:39am

The guy in the painting on the wall doesn't look so much like Osama bin laden as he does Ernest Borgnine.
/no disrespect to Mr. Borgnine intended.

78 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:24:43am

re: #63 NoSubmission
Hey No Sub - 10 updings if I could for that "cartoon riots" comment!

79 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:24:49am

re: #72 realwest

Now he's back to fighting for Obama?!

Exactly.

That was the purpose here (or part of it).

80 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:25:17am

re: #76 zombie

Everything that is bad for Obama is good for Obama.

Something like that?

81 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:25:30am

"Let's ask Osama bin Laden... er, Osama... Obama."
--Teddy the K

82 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:25:34am

I don't think it will make anyone change their minds about how they are planning to vote.

83 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:26:01am

re: #78 realwest

Hey No Sub - 10 updings if I could for that "cartoon riots" comment!


Updings? I got updings? whoo hoo. Haven't had that feature turned on in the longest time.

Thanks friends!

84 Charles  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:26:02am

Poll now added above...

85 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:26:07am

re: #76 zombie


But zombie - don't you know that none of that matters? - It's the NUANCE - the NUANCE!

86 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:26:30am

re: #77 NoSubmission

The guy in the painting on the wall doesn't look so much like Osama bin laden as he does Ernest Borgnine.
/no disrespect to Mr. Borgnine intended.

Marty for President!

87 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:26:32am

re: #66 Kosh's Shadow

The Osama picture over the fireplace is a nice touch; a Che poster would have clashed with the decor.

Add a box of dynamite by the door with a label "For Ayers and Dohrn".

Well, that and the historical fact that the Che flag REALLY did happen, unlike that other dreck.

But two thumb up to cartoon WAB for choosing Comrade Kalashnikov's ever-reliable Moscow Typewriter. She obviously knows more about eeevil gunz than cartoon Obamessiah.

/ps where's his halo?

88 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:26:43am

re: #76 zombie
"First of all, it will piss off the blindered Kos Kids Krowd, who stubbornly refuse to see the irony-within-irony humor of it."
Uh, kindly see my #72 above!

89 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:26:48am

re: #69 FredWM

I know its suppose to be satire, but when you have to explain a joke it’s too complicated. (By the way, did you notice the OBL picture hanging on the wall?) I'd bet that a majority of the people who see the cover think there is some truth to a few of the points raised.

I think so as well.

90 rightwinger3  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:27:13am

re: #72 realwest

NOW WAIT A DAMN MINUTE - Kos hisownself said "FUCK OBAMA" and FUCK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY" because of Obama's flip flopping on FISA, gun control, Iraq, and a whole host of other issues as he "tries to move to the center, forgetting that we (i.e., the "activist base of the Dem Party, according to Kos) mad it possible for Obama to get the nomination!
In fact it was soooo good (or bad, depending on your pov) that Charles had a thread about it!
Now he's back to fighting for Obama?!

real, to be a LLL you must be in lockstep. Get out of step and see if Drill Instructor Sgt Kos is not all over your shit in a heartbeat.

91 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:27:37am

re: #84 Charles

Poll now added above...

Can we add a "crazy like a fox" or "false flag op" category?

92 Syrah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:27:45am

re: #65 rlevitin

Based on that, it IS clever, not stupid. Because coming from Moonbats, they've shielded their candidate from criticism.

You may be right.

If it successfully inoculates the Obamas from any criticisms of their history and their character, it will end up being a brilliant masterstroke.

Obama is the ultimate tabula rasa candidate. An empty canvas that people can project their "hopes" onto without having to cite any facts.

This cover could well work to that end.

93 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:28:11am

re: #80 NoSubmission

Everything that is bad for Obama is good for Obama.

Something like that?

He is the postmodern turtle, after all.

94 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:28:13am

re: #84 Charles

Poll now added above...

Charles can you clarify perspective... stupid for the New Yorker to have published as a moonbat magazine... meaning an Obama attack = stupid?

95 imtoast  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:28:23am

Everyone knows, Michelle would never be caught dead in those shoes!

96 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:28:28am

re: #87 OldLineTexan

Well, that and the historical fact that the Che flag REALLY did happen, unlike that other dreck.

But two thumb up to cartoon WAB for choosing Comrade Kalashnikov's ever-reliable Moscow Typewriter. She obviously knows more about eeevil gunz than cartoon Obamessiah.

/ps where's his halo?

Halos are a symbol of racist patriarchal Christianity.

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97 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:28:38am

re: #84 Charles

Poll now added above...

The second and third choices are synonyms.

98 Syrah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:04am

re: #61 MandyManners

Que WAB?

99 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:18am

re: #96 CIA Reject

Halos are a symbol of racist patriarchal Christianity.

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Understood. Is an aura too New Age-y?

/

100 rightwinger3  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:20am

re: #84 Charles

Poll now added above...

That's why I love this place...Ron Paul is tied with Stupid!

101 iChef  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:33am

Bush is lifting the ban on offshore drilling by executive order. WOOOOHOOOO!

102 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:38am

re: #88 realwest

Yes, it's interesting -- they're so conflicted about Obama, they don't know what to think.

Basically, the Kossacks feel free to criticize him, but as soon as anyone else does, they rush to his defense!

103 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:42am

re: #84 Charles - I'm at least partially with O.R. on the poll in his #91 ; false flag op should be added as a category I think

104 Bobblehead  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:48am

It's almost a dead heat between 'stupid" and "Ron Paul". Coincidence? I think not.

105 eaglewingz08  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:51am

One thing that hasn't been pointed out (or I didn't see in the comments) is that the Obamanation and MichelleO, are stepping on a carpet with an American Eagle on it (stepping on the POTUS seal?)
And perhaps that isn't arugala on the fireplace but pot, again referring to the 'conservative meme' that the Obamanation was a pothead?
Third, is that OBL in the painting over the mantelpiece of Mohammad(HBUH)? The New Yorker better hope that people see it as OBL rather than Mohammad, otherwise, the New Yorker will be in a heap of trouble with those peaceable muslims throughout the world.

As for everything else in the photo, it contains more than a hint of truth with respect to each item, Obamanation's muslim background, his wife and his support of urban terrorists (both Pali and Weather Underground types) and their membership in anti american anti white church for twenty years. That their ultralib politics directly embrace the burning of the American flag (again through their unrenounced associations with notorious USA haters) and his refusal to wear the pin prior to the end of dem primary season.

106 VegasRick  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:54am

re: #98 Syrah

Que WAB?

Who or what is WAB?

107 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:55am

I'll probably actually buy it, mount it under glass and put it on the wall. Unread, of course, because I'm confident the article is full of the usual gooey Obama fructose. But as for the cover: Art is the lie that helps us to see the truth. Picasso said it, I believe it, that settles it.

108 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:29:59am

re: #101 iChef

Bush is lifting the ban on offshore drilling by executive order. WOOOOHOOOO!

Gazillion updings!

109 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:01am

re: #100 rightwinger3

That would be because Ron Paul DEFINES stupid.

110 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:04am

Caption #2:

No, Seriously - We Had To Do This To Pave The Way For Next Week's "McCain Having a Heart Attack" Cover.

111 Fat Jolly Penguin  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:07am

re: #101 iChef

Bush is lifting the ban on offshore drilling by executive order. WOOOOHOOOO!

O.O Linky?!

112 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:14am

I printed it out and pinned it up in my cube at work. :)

Must.get.t-shirt!

113 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:21am

The poll needs a fourth option: All of the above.

114 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:28am

re: #100 rightwinger3
Uh, that could be because the two are one and the same?!
Just saying.............................!

115 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:29am

American flag burning in the fire place and Osama bin Lyings picture over the mantle..

you racists bastards.

/heh.

Bill Clinton's picture should be on the mantle staring at Mrs. Obamas boots..

116 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:33am

re: #84 Charles

Poll now added above...

lnɐd uoɹ is kicking butt.

117 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:37am

re: #106 VegasRick

Who or what is WAB?

Whiny Ass B*tch (Michelle)

118 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:43am

re: #99 OldLineTexan

Understood. Is an aura too New Age-y?

/

LOL! Maybe not New Age-y enough!

119 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:30:55am

The look in Obama's eye is priceless.

120 harrylook  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:31:01am

I can't decide if this is good for Obama in that it gives him the opportunity - once again - to "prove" his patriotism; or bad in that it makes you wonder - once again - why there would be a question about a presidential candidate's patriotism.

121 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:31:01am

re: #102 zombie

Yes, it's interesting -- they're so conflicted about Obama, they don't know what to think.

Basically, the Kossacks feel free to criticize him, but as soon as anyone else does, they rush to his defense!

"He may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch!"
-another Democrat

122 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:31:10am

re: #115 ibmkeyboard

American flag burning in the fire place and Osama bin Lyings picture over the mantle..

you racists bastards.

/heh.

Bill Clinton's picture should be on the mantle staring at Mrs. Obamas boots..

Boots?

123 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:31:12am

re: #106 VegasRick

Who or what is WAB?

Whiny A$$ Bi***

124 wahabicorridor  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:31:14am

I think it's hilarious - except I think Angela Davis - oops - Michelle - should be wearing a Che shirt

125 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:31:21am

This is pretty mild when you consider how many vitriolic cartoons the left-wing have published calling Condi Rice the n-word, or variations on that theme.

They had better learn to get used to it.

126 VegasRick  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:31:25am

re: #117 Occasional Reader

Whiny Ass B*tch (Michelle)

I like it! Thanks!

127 rightwinger3  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:31:35am

re: #109 thedopefishlives

That would be because Ron Paul DEFINES stupid.

Roger. That he does.

128 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:32:02am

So how come The New Yorker isn't being called racist?

129 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:32:02am

re: #122 MandyManners

Boots?

Well yeah, you polish them enough and they "reflect up".

130 wahabicorridor  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:32:16am

re: #107 Pullus Iulius

because I'm confident the article is full of the usual gooey Obama fructose

It's not - I'm reading it now - Obama isn't coming off too well

131 LeatherNeckLady  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:32:17am

I think an interesting feature is the look that Obama has, rather sly looking.

132 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:32:22am

WAB's hips are not that tiny IRL.

133 iChef  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:32:22am

re: #111 Fat Jolly Penguin

ask and you shall receive!
Bush Lifts Ban

134 Jed 1899  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:33:34am

Can't believe they left out the big Greyhound
bus......

135 soccerdad  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:33:38am

re: #27 ploome hineni

...the most stupid thing about this issue, is McCain personally condemning it


OMFG -- McCain camp is SO STUPID!

UPDATE to the UPDATE -- McCain spokesman Tucker "Outward" Bounds quickly e-mailed: "We completely agree with the Obama campaign, it’s tasteless and offensive.”
136 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:33:41am

re: #115 ibmkeyboard
"Bill Clinton's picture should be on the mantle staring at Mrs. Obamas boobs..
There, fixed that for ya!

137 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:33:55am

re: #87 OldLineTexan

But two thumb up to cartoon WAB for choosing Comrade Kalashnikov's ever-reliable Moscow Typewriter. She obviously knows more about eeevil gunz than cartoon Obamessiah.

Of course, cartoon WAB is also using a sling for the AK that appears to be designed for holding loose shotgun shells. But maybe we're overanalyzing here.

138 jemima  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:34:19am

I wonder what James Thurber would have drawn instead.

139 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:34:30am

On the one hand, Obama has a way of inspiring extreme opinions on both sides. On the other hand, you only get flak when you're over the target. What are the Obamatons so insecure about?

The cartoon is clever, but putting it on the cover was stupid. The cover is where you catch the buyer's eye, true, and you want something a little bit outrageous there, but it's also where you advertise your content and somebody who doesn't know any better, people who have no rational thought process (cough*OBAMAVOTERS*cough cough) might think your magazine is tastelessly anti-Obama.

140 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:34:33am

re: #132 MandyManners

WAB's hips are not that tiny IRL.


You little devil, you!

141 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:34:45am
142 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:34:48am

re: #130 wahabicorridor

It's not - I'm reading it now - Obama isn't coming off too well

You have GOT to be kidding.

Has the New Yorker found its own Karl Rove? Is their purpose to create an appearance of cracks in the MSM Obamalovefest? My brain hurts...

143 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:34:59am

re: #133 iChef

Bush Lifts Ban

If only the moonbats would lift some Ban from time to time.

144 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:35:05am

re: #112 NoSubmission
Hey No Sub - where'd you get a large enough, clear enough copy to print out?

145 michaelhop  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:35:17am

re: #63 NoSubmission

Genius.

If FOX News had produced this cartoon the screaming would be heard into the next century. We should thank The New Yorker.

Can the Obama cartoon riots be that far off?

Cartoon Riots ! LOL.

Ooh ee, ooh ah ah, bing, bam, Obama-rama ding dong

146 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:35:22am

re: #132 MandyManners

WAB's hips are not that tiny IRL.

One saucer of milk. Will there be anything else, madam?

/

147 keithgabryelski  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:35:27am

This Is Spinal Tap:

It's such a fine line between stupid, and clever.

I think they did a ok job on the art-work and the cover is reasonably clever.

Not George Will clever, but clever non-the-less.

148 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:35:28am

re: #138 jemima

I wonder what James Thurber would have drawn instead.

Just be hope we don't get to see what Ted Rall would draw instead.

149 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:35:30am

re: #138 jemima

I wonder what James Thurber would have drawn instead.

Or Normal Rockwell.

150 vxbush  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:35:43am

re: #107 Pullus Iulius

I'll probably actually buy it, mount it under glass and put it on the wall. Unread, of course, because I'm confident the article is full of the usual gooey Obama fructose. But as for the cover: Art is the lie that helps us to see the truth. Picasso said it, I believe it, that settles it.

Actually, the article inside isn't at all kind to Obama. Per HotAir:

Obama’s relations with some of his black colleagues from Chicago were dreadful from the beginning. On March 13, 1997, Obama introduced one of his first pieces of legislation, a modest bill to make a directory of community-college graduates available to local employers. There was a response from Rickey Hendon, a state senator from the West Side of Chicago who had been close to Alice Palmer. After Obama explained his bill, Hendon, who has dabbled in film and television work, earning him the nickname Hollywood, rose to ask a question, and the following exchange occurred:

HENDON: Senator, could you correctly pronounce your name for me? I’m having a little trouble with it.
OBAMA: Obama.
HENDON: Is that Irish?
OBAMA: It will be when I run countywide.
HENDON: That was a good joke, but this bill’s still going to die. This directory, would that have those 1-800 sex line numbers in this directory?
OBAMA: I apologize. I wasn’t paying Senator Hendon any attention.
HENDON: Well, clearly, as poorly as this legislation is drafted, you didn’t pay it much attention either. My question was: Are the 1-800 sex line numbers going to be in this directory?
OBAMA: Not—not—basically this idea comes out of the South Side community colleges. I don’t know what you’re doing on the West Side community colleges. But we probably won’t be including that in our directory for the students.
HENDON: . . . Let me just say this, and to the bill: I seem to remember a very lovely Senator by the name of Palmer—much easier to pronounce than Obama—and she always had cookies and nice things to say, and you don’t have anything to give us around your desk. How do you expect to get votes? And—and you don’t even wear nice perfume like Senator Palmer did. . . . I’m missing Senator Palmer because of these weak replacements with these tired bills that makes absolutely no sense. I . . . I definitely urge a No vote. Whatever your name is.
Although the exchange was part of a longstanding tradition of hazing new legislators, the tensions between Hendon and Obama were real. On another occasion, Obama voted—a parliamentary error, Obama says—to block funding for a child-welfare facility in Hendon’s district. Hendon rose and criticized Obama for the vote. The two men became embroiled in a yelling match on the Senate floor that looked as if it might become physical; they were separated by Courtney Nottage, then the chief of staff for Emil Jones. Nottage led Obama off the floor to a room that legislators used to make telephone calls. “It looked like two men that were having a serious disagreement and they had walked up to one another really close,” Nottage told me. “I didn’t think anything good could come of that.”

Hendon told me, “He’s the one that got mad, because he said I embarrassed him on the Senate floor. That’s when he came over to my desk.” Before Nottage broke them up, Obama, who had learned to box from his Indonesian stepfather, supposedly told Hendon, “I’m going to kick your ass!” Hendon said, “He said something like that.” He added that more details will appear in a book that he’s written, entitled “Black Enough, White Enough: The Obama Dilemma.”

151 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:35:46am

re: #111 Fat Jolly Penguin

Linky.

152 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:35:49am

re: #122 MandyManners

Boots?


I didn't want to turn it into a tits thread

/

153 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:36:00am

re: #137 Occasional Reader

Of course, cartoon WAB is also using a sling for the AK that appears to be designed for holding loose shotgun shells. But maybe we're overanalyzing here.

Her grenade launcher is obviously out for repairs, or maybe a nicer stock.

154 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:36:12am

re: #135 soccerdad

OMFG -- McCain camp is SO STUPID!

Disagree. What would you have McCain do? "Oh, yeah, I think Obama's a terrorist"? This whole point here is to make conservatives look like nutjobs. McCain has to distance himself from it - it's the smartest thing to do.

155 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:36:23am

re: #91 Occasional Reader

Can we add a "crazy like a fox" or "false flag op" category?

"False Flag" is lefty / loose change terminology, IMHO.

156 dominic yeso  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:36:31am

two funnies here - the stupid cover and the ron paul vote button.

157 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:37:47am

re: #125 calcajun

SPOT ON POST. Thank you for that.

158 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:37:51am

Clever? I keeeeeel you!

159 amphibian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:38:07am

It should be obvious that this is satire. If it were for real, there would be a big honking red flag standing in the corner!

160 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:38:25am

re: #154 Occasional Reader

Disagree. What would you have McCain do? "Oh, yeah, I think Obama's a terrorist"? This whole point here is to make conservatives look like nutjobs. McCain has to distance himself from it - it's the smartest thing to do.

The smartest thing to do is keep his trap shut and ignore it. It has nothing to do with him, and there's absolutely no reason why he should have to comment on it. Obama isn't asked to comment on every anti-McCain slur (if he was, he'd never have time to finish his waffles).

161 snowcrash  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:38:31am

Clever cover but a mistake. Feeds into an already deep dislike of Michelle O.

162 docremulac  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:38:40am

I love how they unwittingly bombed their candidate by painting him as a divisive figure, an image the Obamessiah has been trying to buck for months now.

Or was it unwitting? Maybe subconsciously they want him to loose. I know liberals and they're very racist deep down. They consider blacks to be exotic pets to be taken care of and sicked on evil whitey conservatives when necessary. But putting one in charge? That's a bit much for them.

I think they'll all vote for him and secretly hope he looses. Then they can get back to seething at the guys in charge, about the only thing they know how to do.

163 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:39:01am

re: #130 wahabicorridor
{wahabi} - he isn't? In the New Yorker Obama isn't coming off too well?
Geez, this coud be a flying pigs moment Charles!

164 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:39:16am

They both look very comfortable that way.

165 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:39:20am

re: #150 vxbush

No love for Obama here, but that Hendon person sounds like a condescending, smarmy jackass. I would not have invited him outside to whip his @ss, but I would have verbally excoriated him on that point alone.

166 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:39:25am

re: #155 MajorPribluda

"False Flag" is lefty / loose change terminology, IMHO.

Actually "False Flag" is a valid counterintelligence term that has, unfortunately been hi-jacked by the troofers

167 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:39:36am

re: #140 NoSubmission

You little devil, you!

I have no idea what got into me.

168 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:39:46am

re: #150 vxbush

Then I'll start polishing up this here trophy of a blind squirrel finding a nut, and get it right off to the New Yorker. Gave one to the WaPo last week - I'm starting to run short.

169 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:39:50am

Ron Paul!

170 Obama/Olbermann 08  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:39:56am

Oh, crap.

I think I accidentally voted for Pat Buchanan.

171 itellu3times  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:39:57am

re: #37 Dar ul Harb

Fake but accurate?

The winnah!

I really, really have to wonder about the "parody" claim. Really.

I think what we see is more an *exaggeration* or caricature, than parody. It can still be funny, but it can also show truth.

172 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:40:10am

re: #134 Jed 1899
No room in the area alloted (though a peek out a window at something with the word "Bus" on it woulda been a nice touch!)!

173 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:40:11am

re: #167 MandyManners

I have no idea what got into me.

Do not turn this into another penis thread.

174 donbmcd  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:40:17am

Ok - So where is the joke?

175 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:40:21am

Eustace Tilley - You magnificent bastard!

176 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:40:32am

re: #155 MajorPribluda

"False Flag" is lefty / loose change terminology, IMHO.

It's got a much longer pedigree. It's a useful term, I refuse to cede a monopoly on it to the Loose Change crowd.

177 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:40:33am

re: #146 OldLineTexan

One saucer of milk. Will there be anything else, madam?

/

Some cat-nip, please.

178 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:40:36am

re: #154 Occasional Reader

I think you might be putting up a bit of a strawman there. I don't think anybody would say that McCain should come out and blatantly support what the New Yorker has done. But he could say something like the following: "I disagree with the expression of this cover and the implications thereof, and I condemn it. But let me add that there are still serious concerns with candidate Obama that he needs to address. Here is what I have to say to Mr. Obama..."

179 Born_to_lose  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:40:47am

re: #105 eaglewingz08

See, I have to agree with this notion. First and foremost, when I have been engaging in debates regarding Obama's HIGHLY questionable past and affiliations, I find that the more the libs have to defend against these points (ineffectively, might I add) that the sort of "viral marketing" of these ideas reiterrates that some of these insinuations should be pondered. Henceforth, people perhaps not participating in the discussion that prefer to just remain spectators will begin to have the veil lifted off of their eyes and research some of the facts for themselves, as opposed to of course, refering to the actual Obama site and/or Moveon.org. Actually, I find it rather amusing when I engage in political debates that they actually site Obama's site as a source of "fact"...bwwwaahaahaa! :o)

180 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:41:01am

I can't stop laughing at that picture.

181 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:41:30am

re: #177 MandyManners

Some cat-nip, please.

Balled, or loose?

/

182 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:41:31am

re: #151 lawhawk


Expect the Democrats to complain bitterly over the move, particularly New Jersey Democrats Gov. Jon Corzine, Sen. Bob Menendez, and Sen. Frank Lautenberg who all think that offshore drilling with destroy the Jersey Shore tourist economy. They also all ignore the fact that to get people to the Jersey Shore requires oil refined into gasoline, and if the prices are sufficiently high, tourists will seek other venues to spend their money.


All the energy used by the Democrat heads a' popping could fuel my car for 10 years.

183 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:41:44am

re: #152 ibmkeyboard

I didn't want to turn it into a tits thread

/

Lizards and tits? Neverrrrrrrrrrr.

184 keithgabryelski  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:41:50am

re: #139 Pawn of the Oppressor

The cover is where you catch the buyer's eye, true, and you want something a little bit outrageous there, but it's also where you advertise your content and somebody who doesn't know any better, people who have no rational thought process (cough*OBAMAVOTERS*cough cough) might think your magazine is tastelessly anti-Obama.

The cover of The New Yorker has never (I can't remember in recent times) had anything to do with the content in the current issue.

It's not like the cover of a book. I'm more like the first article in the magazine.

Obama did the right thing by denouncing it, because it will cause more ruckus which bring more light to the fallacies the cover is addressing.

Those "OBAMAVOTERS" you refer to will be enlightened.

And the McCain campaign had three reasonable alternatives:
1) say nothing
2) support obama's position
3) step in front of this an say "yeah, that's a good cover, I hope everyone understands the reason why that cover was made,
straightens up and votes for me because of issues, not because
they believe any of those things"

185 AuntAcid  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:41:51am

I knew it, I knew it, I knew it! The Harpy does wear the pants in that family.

186 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:41:57am

re: #150 vxbush

The article could be much better, but as to be expected, New Yorkers have a very steep learning curve when it comes to Chicago politics. At least it names the names and doesn't hold much back.

187 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:41:57am

re: #181 OldLineTexan

Balled, or loose?

/

Was that a Jesse Jackson reference?

188 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:42:05am

re: #69 FredWM,

Doesn't Rush say that there is truth behind good paradoy? Something like that. Yeah, while there's a lot of hyperbole here, there's also the grain of truth. But I bet you WAB doesn't even know the end of an AK-47 to point at the people you intend to kill.

That is, after all, what one has servants for.

189 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:42:35am

re: #166 CIA Reject

Actually "False Flag" is a valid counterintelligence term that has, unfortunately been hi-jacked by the troofers

I'll take your word for it, but they got it and we lost it. We're not getting our colors straightened out ever again (Republicans are BLUE and Democrats are RED RED RED, FFS), so they got "false flag" as well. It may have a fine pedigree, but it sure smells bad now.

190 itellu3times  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:42:41am

re: #84 Charles

Poll now added above...

I need another option: "too close to call".

191 donbmcd  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:42:41am

Please notice the rifle MO is carryng is a RUSSIAN MAKDE AK - Geeze - what ever happened to buy American !

192 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:43:01am

re: #173 JamesTKirk

I just choked on my juice.

193 Diamond Bullet  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:43:15am

re: #14 Kenneth

I think Michelle Obama is supposed to be dressed up like Angela Davis

According to that link, Ms. Davis is apparently Professor of the "History of Consciousness" at the University of California.

Really.

Is this what liberal professors do when they're not bright enough to excel in an established field of study? Just make something up and proclaim themselves the head of it?

194 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:43:34am

re: #182 ibmkeyboard

particularly New Jersey Democrats Gov. Jon Corzine, Sen. Bob Menendez, and Sen. Frank Lautenberg who all think that offshore drilling with destroy the Jersey Shore tourist economy.

At least it won't spoil Ted Kennedy's ocean view.

195 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:43:37am

re: #183 MandyManners

Lizards and tits? Neverrrrrrrrrrr.

Why do I hear a dog chanting in my head?

/kibbles and bits and bits and bits

196 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:43:46am

re: #181 OldLineTexan

Balled, or loose?

/

Loose, please.

*purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*

197 LeonidasOfSparta  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:43:52am

I think it's hilarious on every possible level.

The New Yorker, snide and arrogant, has fubar'd itself by this caricature; the loony libs are seething like Muslims in the Netherlands; Obama, snide and arrogant, is having a whole herd of goats over it; and all this seething and broohaha is OVER A CARTOON.

To me the irony is self evident and worth sitting back and having a good laugh while eating some Netherland grocery products.

198 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:43:53am

re: #162 docremulac

Or was it unwitting? Maybe subconsciously they want him to loose. I know liberals and they're very racist deep down. They consider blacks to be exotic pets to be taken care of and sicked on evil whitey conservatives when necessary. But putting one in charge? That's a bit much for them.

Oh shit.

NAACp on line 3

199 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:43:55am

It's definitely clever!

But Obama, and Obama supporters, sure are thin skinned. If he's elected are we going to have every cartoon about him vetted? Oh, that's right, we'll have the fairness doctrine to protect him.

200 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:03am

Too bad it went to press before they could get a pair of $600 earrings on her.

201 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:19am

re: #187 NoSubmission

Was that a Jesse Jackson reference?

*snort*

202 wahabicorridor  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:21am

re: #142 OldLineTexan

You have GOT to be kidding.

Nope. I wouldn't call it a hit piece but he doesn't get a free ride either.

Ivory Mitchell, the ward chairman in Obama’s neighborhood, says of Obama that “he was typical of what most aspiring politicians are: self-centered—that ‘I can do anything and I’m willing to do it overnight.’ ”

Nice info on Chicago politics, too

203 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:25am

re: #187 NoSubmission

Was that a Jesse Jackson reference?

Since you would have to 'splain that to me, no.

204 Bobblehead  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:31am

WAB? Explain.

205 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:32am

"Stupid" seems to be overtaking "Ron Paul". It's a pity. The New Yorker isn't worth expenditure of the epithet.

206 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:37am

re: #189 MajorPribluda

so they got "false flag" as well

Let's take it back.

207 Lawrence Schmerel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:37am

Charles:

You should add "too clever by half," to the choices in the poll.

If I could vote more accurately, I would say "too clever by half."

208 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:48am

Ron Paul, definitely.

209 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:44:53am

re: #195 OldLineTexan

Why do I hear a dog chanting in my head?

/kibbles and bits and bits and bits

LOL!

210 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:45:18am

re: #192 MandyManners

I just choked on my juice.

IT'S ALL THE FAULT OF THE----

Oh, wait, you said "juice". I thought...

Never mind.

211 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:45:19am

re: #178 thedopefishlives

Why does McCain need to say anything so elaborate? It's a cartoon!

212 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:45:27am

re: #199 DeafDog

It's definitely clever!

But Obama, and Obama supporters, sure are thin skinned. If he's elected are we going to have every cartoon about him vetted? Oh, that's right, we'll have the fairness doctrine to protect him.

Well, who's going to vet the vetters?

213 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:45:28am

re: #191 donbmcd

Please notice the rifle MO is carryng is a RUSSIAN MAKDE AK - Geeze - what ever happened to buy American !

You can get yourself a nice American-made AK with only a smattering of foreign (usually Romanian) parts.

214 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:45:29am

The New Yorker's mistake is that in order for this to work—for it to be truly ridiculous enough—the image must maintain a certain distance from reality. Unfortunately, I found myself saying... " I'll just bet Michelle had a poster of Angela Davis on wall of her college dorm!"

215 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:45:32am

Isn't The New Yorker traditionally a lefty publication? No wonder the Kidz are shocked.

216 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:45:52am

re: #210 JamesTKirk

!

217 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:45:53am

That not The New Yorker I knew.

218 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:03am

re: #201 MandyManners

re: #187 NoSubmission

Was that a Jesse Jackson reference?

*snort*

No no no... "snort" is an OBAMA reference, sheesh, keep it straight!

219 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:04am

re: #210 JamesTKirk

IT'S ALL THE FAULT OF THE----

Oh, wait, you said "juice". I thought...

Never mind.

Funny. You don't like juice.

220 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:05am

re: #199 DeafDog

If Obama's elected, no one will dare criticize him, or draw funny cartoons of him.

Another reason to vote for McCain. No one has any qualms criticizing, or making fun of, him!

221 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:05am

re: #203 OldLineTexan

Since you would have to 'splain that to me, no.


I was talking about last week's Jess Jackson comments about cutting Obama's nuts off.

222 amphibian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:10am

re: #150 vxbush

The two men became embroiled in a yelling match on the Senate floor that looked as if it might become physical

Excuse me, but this sounds funny. Have you seen a closeup of Ears's wrists? Maybe in one of those pictures with the halo where he's got his hand under his chin like he's thinking about something? Skin, tendons and skinny bones! I don't think those hands have lifted anything more substantial than a latte in a very long time.

Not that I need a candidate to be a governator before I'll vote for him, but man! this guy's only male because of an accident of anatomy -- and I think his wife's got those bits hanging on her keychain!

223 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:16am

re: #200 MajorPribluda

Too bad it went to press before they could get a pair of $600 earrings on her.

That would be too close to the truth.

224 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:35am

re: #165 OldLineTexan

No love for Obama here, but that Hendon person sounds like a condescending, smarmy jackass. I would not have invited him outside to whip his @ss, but I would have verbally excoriated him on that point alone.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Illinois and Chicago politics. You have just stepped through the looking glass, into a world where there is a fifth dimension, beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call Springfield.

225 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:39am

re: #218 Occasional Reader

No, snort is a Marion Barry reference.

226 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:41am

re: #217 Anthony (Los Angeles)

That not The New Yorker I knew.

Under da bus with it!

227 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:44am

re: #210 JamesTKirk

IT'S ALL THE FAULT OF THE----

Oh, wait, you said "juice". I thought...

Never mind.

HA!

228 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:51am

I'd have some respect for Michelle if she really did sling a gun and ammo with military garb. that would be cool.

229 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:54am

Michelle appears to be standing on the right wing, and Barry on the left wing and neck of the bald eagle symbol. Or is that a duck?

230 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:46:56am
231 Dianna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:13am

Has pretty much everything already been said?

I thought it a remarkably clueless cartoon. It's as if they're personifying - and confirming - every negative about the Obamas.

232 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:15am

re: #221 NoSubmission

Hey-he's only HUMAN! Just a servant of G-d who sometimes makes mistakes!

233 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:27am

re: #218 Occasional Reader

No no no... "snort" is an OBAMA reference, sheesh, keep it straight!

Oh, that's right. He snorted it. He didn't smoke it.

234 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:27am

re: #220 TalkinKamel

If Obama's elected, no one will dare criticize him, or draw funny cartoons of him.

Not with his Civilian Decency Corps standing on corners and peering in windows.

235 Quintus_Arius  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:28am

I won't vote for her, but I think Hillary is still in the running. Apparently Lady Clinton has fans at the New Yorker. This is cover aimed at fickle super delegates. BTW, the New Yorker is a liberal mag.

236 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:32am

Satire: trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly

237 biff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:35am

First, You got to love the fact that this cover will be adorning news stands and elitist coffee tables for the next weeks.

Second, the uneasy humor about the image is that it is not that far from the realm of possibility, at least on a subconscious level.

Third, there are already photos of BHO wearing such muslim grab.

Four, Middle America will not be amused, and not because they thing BHO and Michelle ma belle are being treated unfairly. They will not be amused at the image that is conjured up. They will be terrified.

Finally, nice ears.

238 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:43am

the footwear alone in hilarious.

239 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:47am

re: #216 WriterMom

!

240 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:47:54am

re: #154 Occasional Reader Oh yes, I agree completely O.R. - McCain really had no choice and I give him kudos for doing it so quickly. Looks like McCain's camp is getting MUCH better at quick and good responses to all things Obamish!

241 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:01am

And the crowd goes wild....!
Obama slams Muslim portrayal

242 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:07am

re: #215 FrogMarch

Isn't The New Yorker traditionally a lefty publication? No wonder the Kidz are shocked.

Worse than "lefty".
The New Yorker is traditionally "Manhattan".

/'nuf said

243 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:08am

re: #227 MandyManners

Hey, juice an be deadly stuff!

I always avoid it myself in the morning, until I've guzzled down my A.M. quota of caffeine!

244 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:36am

There's a flag in the fireplace.

245 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:38am

re: #225 WriterMom

No, snort is a Marion Barry reference.

The bitch set him up.

246 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:41am

re: #229 abolitionist

Michelle appears to be standing on the right wing, and Barry on the left wing and neck of the bald eagle symbol. Or is that a duck?


Obama's left foot is planted squarely on the American Eagle's neck.

247 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:44am

re: #225 WriterMom

No, snort is a Marion Barry reference.

Actually, I think it would be "puff". And he only smoked the crack because the hooker asked him to...

248 Syrah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:48am

re: #211 DeafDog

Why does McCain need to say anything so elaborate? It's a cartoon!

I think that McCain's best response would be "The cover of the New Yorker? You mean to say that there are people out there who still take that magazine seriously?"

249 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:50am

re: #234 MajorPribluda

Vote for McCain! He has no Civilian Decency Corp!

(And, even if he did, they'd probably make fun of him, too!)

250 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:55am

re: #221 NoSubmission

I was talking about last week's Jess Jackson comments about cutting Obama's nuts off.

See? Go away for a week, and you completely get lost.

I was enjoying the scenic beauty of the Texas Hill Country and the Guadalupe River in bustling downtown Hunt, Texas.

No internet.

No TV.

No newspapers.

Heaven, I tells ya.

251 mean Gene  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:48:57am

Lemme see.
Clever?
Stupid?
Charles says ''stupid,''
So what to do?
If I were a voting woman on frivolous things like this I'd have to go with "Ron Paul."
I'm truly peeved that the Tour de France is full of doped-up riders.
Robs the joy of watching it at all.

252 yitzy  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:49:07am

Hey man, I'm just glad to see the return of an LGF Poll. Seems like I haven't voted for Ru Polo for ages. Feels good.

253 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:49:22am

re: #239 JamesTKirk

OHNEVERMIND.

254 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:49:27am

re: #238 FrogMarch

the footwear alone in hilarious.


yes it is! every inch of that cartoon speaks volumes.

255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:49:45am

I think that it is cute that the New Yorker editorial staff thinks that libs get satire.

256 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:01am

How many times can I hit "Ron Paul"?

257 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:07am
258 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:18am

re: #225 WriterMom

LOL! 'Morning, WriterMom!

259 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:18am

re: #234 MajorPribluda

If Obama's elected, no one will dare criticize him, or draw funny cartoons of him.

Not with his Civilian Decency Corps standing on corners and peering in windows.


250,000 critics with machetes and mallet clubs.

260 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:23am

re: #171 itellu3times
Yeah, I think I'd have to go along with you on the "caricature" part.

261 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:23am

Michelle Obama wears combat boots!

262 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:26am
263 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:32am

re: #256 MajorPribluda

How many times can I hit "Ron Paul"?

I think it'd only take one.

264 wahabicorridor  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:33am

For all of you that were hesitant to read the piece and may not be now - here is the link.

265 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:47am

re: #224 Honorary Yooper

Had to ding ya up just for the prose.

And I thought Austin sucked (and smelled funny, except next to the BBQ joints).

266 itellu3times  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:56am

Where's the waffle?

267 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:50:59am

Geebus this thread is really racing along (shakes fist at Ajax!).

268 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:51:22am

re: #212 MajorPribluda

Who will be the thought police? I think gives us a clue

Barak's Civilian National Security Force

269 AuntAcid  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:51:26am

"Que es mas macho?"

270 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:51:38am

re: #257 buzzsawmonkey

"Have you no Civilian Decency Corps, sir, at long last?"

--Army-McCarthy Hearing reference

Heh.

271 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:51:39am

re: #258 TalkinKamel

{KAMEL}

I just sent you a note.

272 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:51:50am

re: #269 AuntAcid

"Que es mas macho?"

Montelbahn.

273 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:51:51am

re: #193 Diamond Bullet

When I was in college, I majored in Unconsciousness Studies.
(Budum-dum -tsh)

274 Capitalistincharge  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:51:51am

How interesting that a cartoon will cause so much trouble for the Democrats. Will they now threaten death and dismemberment over the insult to the Profit/Messiah? This is getting weird. Let's just see how Obama's camp handles the outrage. It could all be very telling, couldn't it?

275 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:51:53am

re: #266 itellu3times

Where's the waffle?


It's hidden in his right hand.

276 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:51:57am

re: #251 mean Gene

Me too. I say it's Ron Paul!

(And, yes, excessive drug use on the part of athletes robes any sport of its fun. Look at the army of clones Red China always sends to the Olympics; and remember the how masculine all those Eastern European womens teams always looked? Steroids! Paging Austin Powers, "It's a MAN, Bay-bay!")

277 biff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:52:15am

How dare the New Yorker portray the messiah in such a disgraceful cartoon. The L3 must rise up and destroy the cartoonist, publisher, and government lackies who would allow such filth to reach the public. Burn any news stand in Manhattan displaying this abomination!

/sarc

278 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:52:31am

I haven't seen it mentioned that the cartoon portrays the Oval Office.

279 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:52:41am

Actually the only part of the cartoon that is a bit far fetched is the portrait of bin Laden over the fireplace, it should have been Antonio Gramsci instead.

280 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:52:45am

re: #265 OldLineTexan

Had to ding ya up just for the prose.

And I thought Austin sucked (and smelled funny, except next to the BBQ joints).

Heh. :-)

Springfield makes Austin, Baton Rouge, and every other state capital seem sane. Did I mention we have yet to pass an operating budget for the state this year?

281 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:52:51am

re: #250 OldLineTexan

I was talking about last week's Jess Jackson comments about cutting Obama's nuts off.

See? Go away for a week, and you completely get lost.

/loose balled thread?

282 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:52:54am

re: #262 buzzsawmonkey

Prop him up and see.

Good one

283 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:52:59am

re: #254 NoSubmission

yes it is! every inch of that cartoon speaks volumes.

Military clown shoes and a toe-less Obama. or is he wearing beige socks? Nerdy.

284 itellu3times  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:06am

I'm proud of the New Yorker for the first time in my life.

285 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:07am

re: #253 WriterMom

OHNEVERMIND.

Do not diss the interrobang.

286 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:10am

re: #245 JamesTKirk

You said it.

287 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:11am

re: #269 AuntAcid

"Que es mas macho?"

Lloyd Bridges! El pescador submarino!

288 Bobblehead  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:12am

Well Rush should be interesting today.

289 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:20am

re: #279 Ringo the Gringo

Actually the only part of the cartoon that is a bit far fetched is the portrait of bin Laden over the fireplace, it should have been Antonio Gramsci instead.

BabbaZee, call your agent!

290 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:23am

Okay, everyone hold on tight:

I like the New Yorker.

I hate its politics, but I've read many brilliant articles on a wide variety of topics.

The cover is, as Lawrence Schmerel notes in his #207 above, "too clever by half." It reminds me of the scene from The Princess Bride:

Man in Black: All right. Where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right... and who is dead.
Vizzini: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Man in Black: You've made your decision then?
Vizzini: Not remotely. Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows, and Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you.
Man in Black: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Vizzini: Wait til I get going! Now, where was I?
Man in Black: Australia.
Vizzini: Yes, Australia. And you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Man in Black: You're just stalling now.
Vizzini: You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Man in Black: You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
Vizzini: IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHERE THE POISON IS!
Man in Black: Then make your choice.
Vizzini: I will, and I choose - What in the world can that be?
Vizzini: [Vizzini gestures up and away from the table. Roberts looks. Vizzini swaps the goblets]
Man in Black: What? Where? I don't see anything.
Vizzini: Well, I- I could have sworn I saw something. No matter.First, let's drink. Me from my glass, and you from yours.
Man in Black, Vizzini: [they drink ]
Man in Black: You guessed wrong.
Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
Vizzini: [Vizzini stops suddenly, and falls dead to the right]
Buttercup: And to think, all that time it was your cup that was poisoned.
Man in Black: They were both poisoned. I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.

291 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:25am
292 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:30am

The New Yorkers Karma just ran over their Dogma. Mwahahaha!

293 gymnast[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:31am
294 Shay4l  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:38am

The only thing we know about Michelle is from her own words. Whatever image the US has of her is her own creation.

295 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:53:54am

Michelle Obama seems pretty gun clingy there..

296 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:54:06am

re: #285 JamesTKirk

OMG, the interobang? I find that strangely arousing!?!?!

297 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:54:42am

re: #292 pingjockey

The New Yorkers Karma just ran over their Dogma. Mwahahaha!

The other way around, I would say :-)

298 Dianna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:54:46am

re: #269 AuntAcid

"Que es mas macho?"

Quien es mas macho?

A friend of mine who did wood turning once had a piece of rosewood explode on the lathe. He was down on the floor, arms over his head, saying, "The lathe! The lathe es mas macho!"

299 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:54:47am

re: #287 OldLineTexan

Lloyd Bridges! El pescador submarino!

Looks like he picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:04am

re: #290 goddessoftheclassroom

Always happy when "The Princess Bride" is quoted.

301 yitzy  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:06am

It's missing a cartoon Che flag.

302 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:13am
303 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:13am

re: #296 WriterMom

OMG, the interobang? I find that strangely arousing!?!?!

Please, stop!

You had me at right-wing Zionist bitch!

304 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:18am

re: #284 itellu3times

I'm proud of the New Yorker for the first time in my life.

LOL!

305 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:18am

re: #290 goddessoftheclassroom

but I've read many brilliant articles on a wide variety of topics.

I agree, they do have occasional very good articles.

306 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:29am

I'd like to see Ralph Steadman's version...see what he can do with those ears.

307 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:29am

re: #220 TalkinKamel

If Obama's elected, no one will dare criticize him, or draw funny cartoons of him.

Another reason to vote for McCain. No one has any qualms criticizing, or making fun of, him!

Are you kidding me? If elected, He's going to be the worse president ever! Unlike Dollar Bill Clinton, who had Newt setting the legislative agenda, he'll have Nancy and Harry. It'll take two years before the country wakes up. The criticism is going to be very, very thick. Rush will be earning his paycheck.

308 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:40am

re: #277 biff

How dare the New Yorker portray the messiah in such a disgraceful cartoon. The L3 must rise up and destroy the cartoonist, publisher, and government lackies who would allow such filth to reach the public. Burn any news stand in Manhattan displaying this abomination!

/sarc

Damn Right.

Burn the Right leaning.... .Uh.... Umm..... Ur..... Left leaning bastards!

309 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:55:42am

re: #297 MajorPribluda
Dog bites car? Heh.

310 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:56:00am

re: #303 OldLineTexan

ROFL

311 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:56:00am

re: #284 itellu3times

I'm proud of the New Yorker for the first time in my life.

BWHAHAHHAAHAH

312 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:56:10am

re: #301 yitzy

It's missing a cartoon Che flag.

No, see, that's reality and even they know it...

313 SagamoreGal  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:56:17am

David Remnick, Editor of the New Yorker, will be looking for a job come January 2009. He's right at the top of the magazine/newspaper editors/writers list that includes Frank Rich, Maureen Dowd, Jann Wenner, et al. These BDS-obssessed hacks will wither away without their Great Satan to destroy in their weekly rantings.

Remnick is not man enough to hold up Tina Brown's (former New Yorker editor) bra strap.

If this cover causes Remnick to be mauled on a NY sidewalk by a deranged Obamatron, then power to the deranged Obamatrons.

I was a longtime New Yorker subscriber who unsubscribed in 2003.

314 biff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:56:21am

Buy it first thing tomorrow. The Obamites are going to try to make it disappear. This is huge. This is the American version of the MoToons.

Rock and Roll to the First Amendment baby!

315 FrogMarch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:56:27am

re: #242 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Worse than "lefty".
The New Yorker is traditionally "Manhattan".

/'nuf said

aha. run by disgruntled Clinton supporters?

316 Charles  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:56:29am

re: #305 Occasional Reader

I agree, they do have occasional very good articles.

Totally agree with that. I enjoy reading the New Yorker, as long as I can skip over their idiotic politics.

Here's an excellent article from last December:

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

317 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:56:44am

Mind-reading is a funny thing and it never works. Sorry, New Yorker, you missed what this member of the vast right wing conspiracy thinks of the Obamas, but you may have hit on what Obama's supporters think of him, because they're the ones that are upset.

318 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:56:55am

re: #298 Dianna

Quien es mas macho?

Or to be (almost) completely correct: Quién es más macho?

("Almost" because I don't remember how to do the upside-down question mark that should be at the beginning)

319 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:57:01am

It could also be that the New Yorker thinks regular SSSSHHHHHTOOOOPId people just don't get satire-that the anti-Obama hicks and fanatics don't get how SHTOOOOOPID they are for suggesting anything that is 'mentioned' in the cartoon.

320 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:57:27am

re: #284 itellu3times

BWA.
HA.
HA.

321 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:57:27am

re: #248 Syrah

Agree

322 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:57:35am

re: #296 WriterMom

It sounds like something Captain Kirk would used against the Chain-mail Bikini Women of Antares 5 on "Star Trek!" (Fifth rate startlet, purring in a sexy voice:) "Unless you turn over your communicators, we shall use the interobang on you, James T. Kirk!" (And Spock bursts into tears at some point, while Sulu becomes Queen of Outer Space, and Dr. McCoy drinks a julep and says the only sensible stuff in the entire show!)

323 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:57:38am

re: #290 goddessoftheclassroom

It's just like an arrogant cat to like the New Yorker. Takes one to like one.

ARF!

/death wish

324 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:57:42am

re: #307 DeafDog

Are you kidding me? If elected, He's going to be the worse president ever! Unlike Dollar Bill Clinton, who had Newt setting the legislative agenda, he'll have Nancy and Harry. It'll take two years before the country wakes up. The criticism is going to be very, very thick. Rush will be earning his paycheck.

This nation was founded so that we wouldn't have Obama's Fascist Force patrolling the streets. It'll be more than criticism, if he's elected and tries to do even half of the things he says he will.

Fortunately, he's a liar and incompetent to boot.

325 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:57:43am

re: #318 Occasional Reader

Or to be (almost) completely correct: Quién es más macho?

("Almost" because I don't remember how to do the upside-down question mark that should be at the beginning)

¿ = "¿"

326 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:57:50am

re: #307 DeafDog

Are you kidding me? If elected, He's going to be the worse president ever! Unlike Dollar Bill Clinton, who had Newt setting the legislative agenda, he'll have Nancy and Harry. It'll take two years before the country wakes up. The criticism is going to be very, very thick. Rush will be earning his paycheck.

And God help us, God help us all.

327 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:58:21am

re: #322 TalkinKamel

It sounds like something Captain Kirk would used against the Chain-mail Bikini Women of Antares 5 on "Star Trek!" (Fifth rate startlet, purring in a sexy voice:) "Unless you turn over your communicators, we shall use the interobang on you, James T. Kirk!" (And Spock bursts into tears at some point, while Sulu becomes Queen of Outer Space, and Dr. McCoy drinks a julep and says the only sensible stuff in the entire show!)

I repeat, do not diss the interrobang.

328 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:58:28am

re: #316 Charles

Totally agree with that. I enjoy reading the New Yorker, as long as I can skip over their idiotic politics.

Here's an excellent article from last December:

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

They also published a couple of very good Jeffrey Goldberg pieces on Saddam's Iraq, in the runup to the war.

329 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:58:33am

I really don't get the whole fist pump nonsense. It's something that's been bugging me for a while.

Baseball players were doing it years ago. Called it the safety shake because you don't actually shake hands with the person. Heck, I seem to recall it being big starting in the mid 1990s.

330 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:58:49am

re: #296 WriterMom

OMG, the interobang? I find that strangely arousing!?!?!

INTER- THREAD.

OOOOOOOOWEEEE.

331 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:58:51am

re: #323 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's just like an arrogant cat to like the New Yorker. Takes one to like one.

ARF!

/death wish

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

332 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:58:54am

re: #322 TalkinKamel

It sounds like something Captain Kirk would used against the Chain-mail Bikini Women of Antares 5 on "Star Trek!" (Fifth rate startlet, purring in a sexy voice:) "Unless you turn over your communicators, we shall use the interobang on you, James T. Kirk!" (And Spock bursts into tears at some point, while Sulu becomes Queen of Outer Space, and Dr. McCoy drinks a julep and says the only sensible stuff in the entire show!)

Well, let's have it, J. T.

333 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:58:55am

I've read some good articles in The New Yorker before. THey had an excellent piece about Oriana Fallaci not too long ago.

But I've met staffers.. they are all unapologetic raging moonbats. I've heard some pretty snarky lefty remarks made in a business setting. I guess they all just assume everyone is just like them.

334 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:59:02am

re: #230 buzzsawmonkey

Like most artists, he was more liberal than not; he happened to do the bulk of his work at a time when "liberal" was not wholly synonymous with "leftist"--and many people of good will who were not leftists or leftists stooges supported the civil rights movement in the years when it actually was a movement for civil rights rather than a grievance-mongering front for the leftwing agenda.

The late Charlton Heston, for instance.

335 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:59:18am

re: #233 MandyManners
Hey Mandy - "He snorted it. He didn't smoke it." How can you be so sure?!

336 biff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:59:26am

I feel like it's a national lizardoid holiday!

337 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:59:42am

re: #335 realwest

Hey Mandy - "He snorted it. He didn't smoke it." How can you be so sure?!

Did he inhale?

338 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:59:46am

Nancy, Harry, Barry
Moe, Curly, Larry
Pratfalls, yuks and dummies
No longer is this funny
In fact, it's very scary

339 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 8:59:58am

I just got a call from the local tv station asking me why Fannie & Freddie Mac are in trouble. Anyone want to call him? I have his cell number which I wont post here.

340 Charles  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:00:06am

re: #329 lawhawk

I really don't get the whole fist pump nonsense. It's something that's been bugging me for a while.

Baseball players were doing it years ago. Called it the safety shake because you don't actually shake hands with the person. Heck, I seem to recall it being big starting in the mid 1990s.

It goes back a lot farther than that. Musicians in LA were doing it in the 80s. I've even, to my shame, done it myself. What else can you do when somebody goes for the fist bump? You don't want to be rude.

341 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:00:17am

re: #76 zombie

I think the New Yorker cover is stupid on an epic scale.

Here's why:

First of all, it will piss off the blindered Kos Kids Krowd, who stubbornly refuse to see the irony-within-irony humor of it.

Secondly, it will piss off a lot of political-junkie Obama-dislikers, because it misconstrues and mocks our real reason for disliking him.

But most importantly, it will awaken new-found fears in people who don't really follow politics and who aren't plugged into the rumor-a-minute scandal mill. They'll look at that cover, and for the first time ever, they'll get the message that at least some people think Michelle Obama is a black revolutionary, that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim, that their victory will be seen as a Manchurian Candidate-style seizing of the White House by radical Islamists.

And even though the average nonpolitical person will likely dismiss such notions at first, I suspect the image will stay in the backs of their minds, rankling and festering, and creating great deep-seated fear.

Rational people are unable to come up with an explanation for Obama being a leading candidate for the presidential office. It just makes no sense.

342 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:00:19am

re: #307 DeafDog

No, I'm not kidding. I don't think McCain will be a good president, but Obama, by all indications, has dreams of being a dictator (that armed civilian corps of his, for instance.)

We'll just have to agree to disagree on this. (And, no, I've never bought into the whole "Things have to get worse before they can get better!" argument, so please don't go there. And there's no third party candidate, at this point, who could give the Obamamessiah a run for his money.)

343 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:00:21am

re: #332 MajorPribluda

Well, let's have it, J. T.

I'm still wondering what color skin the Antarean chain mail bikini women have. I don't think I've had a purple one yet.

344 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:00:41am

re: #331 goddessoftheclassroom

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]

*GRIN*

345 biff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:00:51am

Subtext:

DNC Superdelegates, are you Ff'n out of your gourds?

346 Dianna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:00:52am

re: #318 Occasional Reader

I'll settle for spelling it right, because it takes me forever to enter special characters.

347 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:01:11am

re: #340 Charles

It goes back a lot farther than that. Musicians in LA were doing it in the 80s. I've even, to my shame, done it myself. What else can you do when somebody goes for the fist bump? You don't want to be rude.


I guess you can't leave a fist bump 'hanging',.. but I've never seen terrorists do it. Where'd that come from?

348 ec marm  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:01:26am

I'm afraid that cover will inoculate people to something that they really should fear; someone with limited feelings of pride and allegiance to this country entering into the highest office.

349 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:01:39am

re: #340 Charles

What else can you do when somebody goes for the fist bump?

Swing at 'em, and then claim self-defense.

350 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:01:41am

re: #316 Charles

Totally agree with that. I enjoy reading the New Yorker, as long as I can skip over their idiotic politics.

Here's an excellent article from last December:

[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

/good article.

love the cartoon.
[Link: www.cartoonbank.com...]

351 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:01:43am

With the California Supreme Court's recent decision overturning the law and the overwhelming result of a referendum of the people by declaring same-sex marriage a necessary right, they may have humped the shark.

352 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:01:43am

Come on folks, don't you get it? The New Yorker was satirizing right-wingers for their silly paranoid fears about Obama. You know, that he's anti-American and a Muslim. Just like all those cartoons satirizing left-wingers crazy conspiracy theories about Bushitler.

What do you mean? The Bush cartoons weren't satire?

353 Tilly  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:01:49am

re: #1 Cap'n DOC

I agree, made my husband go to Barns & Nobel to get me a copy...lmfao

354 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:02:07am

re: #347 NoSubmission

I guess you can't leave a fist bump 'hanging',.. but I've never seen terrorists do it. Where'd that come from?

Not a terrorist reference...I think that's for all us racists (i.e., a black power reference).

355 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:02:10am

The only reason my family used to buy the "New Yorker" for, many moons ago, was for the Charles Adams cartoons. And they don't have any more of those.

356 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:02:20am

re: #349 Occasional Reader

Swing at 'em, and then claim self-defense.

Depends on whether or not I hear that rockin' "Kirk about to battle" background music, and my shirt is torn.

357 wolfie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:02:39am

re: #93 Dar ul Harb

He is the postmodern turtle, after all.

That is a good one !

358 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:02:42am

re: #189 MajorPribluda

That may be true, but I'm not willing to cede my vocabulary to a bunch of mush-headed stoners living in their parents' basements.

I wouldn't be able to speak if I was willing to do so...

359 Charles  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:02:49am

re: #347 NoSubmission

I guess you can't leave a fist bump 'hanging',.. but I've never seen terrorists do it. Where'd that come from?

It comes from one idiotic comment by E. D. Hill on Fox News, that she was suspended for.

360 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:02:55am

re: #318 Occasional Reader

Or to be (almost) completely correct: Quién es más macho?

("Almost" because I don't remember how to do the upside-down question mark that should be at the beginning)

¿

361 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:03:00am
362 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:03:01am

re: #274 Capitalistincharge

How interesting that a cartoon will cause so much trouble for the Democrats. Will they now threaten death and dismemberment over the insult to the Profit/Messiah? This is getting weird. Let's just see how Obama's camp handles the outrage. It could all be very telling, couldn't it?

If he's really Muslim, we'll have seething and rioting over the portrayal of their Mahdi. New Yorker magazies thrown into bonfires. Chicago declaring jihad on New York.
/

363 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:03:12am

Sorta off topic, but I think the "Ron Paul" poll response has lost its cleverness. LGFer's have gotten as bad as Ron Paul supporters themselves.

364 winston06  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:03:15am

It's partly true and I am sure this will backfire on them

365 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:03:23am

re: #340 Charles

What else can you do when somebody goes for the fist bump?

Option no. 2: Hold out your own hand flat, palm down, and announce "Paper covers rock! I win!".

366 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:03:36am

re: #362 Kosh's Shadow

If he's really Muslim, we'll have seething and rioting over the portrayal of their Mahdi. New Yorker magazies thrown into bonfires. Chicago declaring jihad on New York.
/

Not the pizza wars again

367 keithgabryelski  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:03:46am

re: #329 lawhawk

I really don't get the whole fist pump nonsense. It's something that's been bugging me for a while.

You don't get why it's on the cover? Because an announcer on FNC questioned if that "fist bumb" between the Obamas was (among other things) "a terrorist fist jab".

368 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:03:55am

OT; Charles is still doing battle on the last ID thread! Talk about your colossal mismatches!

369 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:03:57am

re: #366 OldLineTexan

Not the pizza wars again

Yeah, last time we all ended up in deep dish.

370 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:04:15am

re: #353 Tilly

I agree, made my husband go to Barns & Nobel to get me a copy...lmfao

McCain's campaign called it tasteless. Tear off a corner of the cover and give us a first-hand report.

371 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:04:37am

re: #329 lawhawk

I really don't get the whole fist pump nonsense. It's something that's been bugging me for a while.

Baseball players were doing it years ago. Called it the safety shake because you don't actually shake hands with the person. Heck, I seem to recall it being big starting in the mid 1990s.

Just another way, like those silly hippie handshakes from the past, that they can show they are NOT sheep, like everyone else, but think for themselves.

Of course, they show this by immediately adopting whatever is the latest fad, and showing how 'different' they are in the exact same manner as millions of others.

372 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:04:39am

re: #329 lawhawk

I really don't get the whole fist pump nonsense. It's something that's been bugging me for a while.

Baseball players were doing it years ago. Called it the safety shake because you don't actually shake hands with the person. Heck, I seem to recall it being big starting in the mid 1990s.

The fist bump goes WA-A-AY back. It's a toast without the beer mugs. Everybody "invents" it. "Black", my lily white assessment of snow.

373 Red_State_Envy  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:04:44am

It’s definitely a cozy Norman Rockwell moment. I can just hear Nat King Cole singing:

Old Glory roasting in an open fire,
Bin Laden’s portrait in a stern pose,
Muslim adhans being sung by the hour,
And Michelle dressed up with an Afro.

We know Obama's on his way;
He's loaded lots of hope and change to his wordplay.
And every mother's child is going to cry,
When they see the Messiah has just piled it really high.

374 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:04:48am

re: #359 Charles

It comes from one idiotic comment by E. D. Hill on Fox News, that she was suspended for.


Yes, I remember that. But I have no idea where she got it.

No one here ever made that reference, and isn't this where FOX gets their news?

375 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:04:53am

re: #343 JamesTKirk

The Antarean space women, in this episode, or a sort've light, chalky lavender, which is about the best the make-up people back then could manage for aliens.

(Sulu gets to wear a cute, gold lame thong, while Nichele Nichols dons a silver body suit in the thrilling scene where they both rescue Captain Kirk---and the bawling Spck---using their phasers, and one of Uhura's high-heeled shoes.)

376 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:04:54am

re: #356 JamesTKirk

Depends on whether or not I hear that rockin' "Kirk about to battle" background music, and my shirt is torn.

If you swing without justification, the judge may have you drinking... Bitter Dregs.

377 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:05:09am

re: #363 DeafDog
We are just being silly. Don't mean nothin'.

378 wahabicorridor  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:05:17am

re: #339 NJDhockeyfan

Oh fer cryin' out loud - do these people read? Tell him to get a copy to today's WSJ - they're all over it

379 faraway  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:05:43am

Obama is going insane. Mccain will not attack him, so his minions (Jesse Jackson) and the MSM have to continually say the GOP will do this, the GOP will do that.

Meanwhile, Obama continues the gaffe-a-day.

I am beginning to think BO is just a dufus.

380 Bobblehead  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:05:51am

re: #347 NoSubmission

Here's the photo.

381 keithgabryelski  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:05:59am

re: #341 debutaunt

Rational people are unable to come up with an explanation for Obama being a leading candidate for the presidential office. It just makes no sense.

Because he's better at campaigning?

382 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:05:59am

re: #362 Kosh's Shadow

If he's really Muslim, we'll have seething and rioting over the portrayal of their Mahdi. New Yorker magazies thrown into bonfires. Chicago declaring jihad on New York.
/

We've already done that.

/Macy's sucks! ;-)

383 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:06:12am

re: #356 JamesTKirk

Depends on whether or not I hear that rockin' "Kirk about to battle" background music, and my shirt is torn.

Did you see Jim Carrey in "The Cable Guy"...There's a whole scene based on that "Kirk about to battle" background music.

Best Friends doing battle

384 Charles  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:06:18am

re: #363 DeafDog

Sorta off topic, but I think the "Ron Paul" poll response has lost its cleverness. LGFer's have gotten as bad as Ron Paul supporters themselves.

You're a creationist, right?

Just checking.

385 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:06:28am

re: #354 OldLineTexan

Not a terrorist reference...I think that's for all us racists (i.e., a black power reference).

All over the 1968 Olympics.

and everywhere in nam.

386 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:06:38am

re: #342 TalkinKamel

McCain has a chance at being a decent prez. Keep taxes low and stay on offense in the war. The rest is background noise.

387 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:06:48am

re: #375 TalkinKamel

The Antarean space women, in this episode, or a sort've light, chalky lavender, which is about the best the make-up people back then could manage for aliens.

(Sulu gets to wear a cute, gold lame thong, while Nichele Nichols dons a silver body suit in the thrilling scene where they both rescue Captain Kirk---and the bawling Spck---using their phasers, and one of Uhura's high-heeled shoes.)

Wouldn't Sulu's stiletto heels do more damage?

388 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:06:59am

re: #361 buzzsawmonkey

Heston made a "transition from left to right" simply by staying true to his principles. The same thing happened to my father, who when he began in local politics was considered a wild-eyed radical, but in his last several elections was the hero of the local Christian right.

Same with Dennis Prager, who says that he has supported an unbroked line of Classical Liberals running right through JFK, RR, and W.

389 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:07:29am

re: #380 Bobblehead

Here's the photo.


Yes, I remember that. but I have no idea how that FOX News reporter got 'terrorist' out of it.

390 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:07:46am

re: #363 DeafDog

Sorta off topic, but I think the "Ron Paul" poll response has lost its cleverness. LGFer's have gotten as bad as Ron Paul supporters themselves.

yo, where's your sense of humor?

391 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:07:58am

re: #356 JamesTKirk

Nuther one

392 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:08:07am

re: #144 realwest

Hey No Sub - where'd you get a large enough, clear enough copy to print out?

Hey RW, How are you? I heard Miguel had a stroke. Are you keeping in touch with him? How is he doing? Please tell him Coquimbojoe sends his best if you talk to him...

Thanks!

393 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:08:32am

re: #363 DeafDog

Sorta off topic, but I think the "Ron Paul" poll response has lost its cleverness. LGFer's have gotten as bad as Ron Paul supporters themselves.

After a couple of minutes thought (including careful consideration of the outrage among the moonbats), I voted "Ron Paul" as a way of saying "Stupid" without voting it. IMHO, a moonbat would be likely to vote "Stupid".

394 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:08:33am

re: #365 Occasional Reader

Option no. 2: Hold out your own hand flat, palm down, and announce "Paper covers rock! I win!".

Option no. 3: Resume forward motion with that fist.

395 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:08:36am

From the New Yorker article (an Obama speech given 8 days after 9-11)

We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair.

We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad. We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent. Finally, we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the globe—children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.

396 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:08:46am

re: #358 CIA Reject

That may be true, but I'm not willing to cede my vocabulary to a bunch of mush-headed stoners living in their parents' basements.

I wouldn't be able to speak if I was willing to do so...

Word!

I mean, "Hear. Hear."

397 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:09:00am

Gee, guess what Rush is leading off with?!

398 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:09:08am

re: #371 Silhouette

Just another way, like those silly hippie handshakes from the past, that they can show they are NOT sheep, like everyone else, but think for themselves.

Of course, they show this by immediately adopting whatever is the latest fad, and showing how 'different' they are in the exact same manner as millions of others.

What's next? Sniffing butts like dogs?

399 Dianna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:09:09am

Well, I need to dance some numbers. This was fun.

400 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:09:16am

re: #389 NoSubmission

Yes, I remember that. but I have no idea how that FOX News reporter got 'terrorist' out of it.

And I'm not sure if what Obama is holding up really qualifies as a "fist", anyway.

401 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:09:21am

re: #144 realwest


Hey No Sub - where'd you get a large enough, clear enough copy to print out?


I copied it from the original Hot Air posting.

402 biff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:09:25am

It's beautiful. The cover was released after the Sunday morning talking heads and before Rush. The left with no marching orders, and the right in a route.

403 So?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:09:26am

Isn't that a scene from "Undercover Brother"?

404 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:09:36am

re: #377 pingjockey


Yeah, I know. But when half the folks are "just being silly" the humor fades...just my two cents.

405 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:09:48am

re: #138 jemima

I wonder what James Thurber would have drawn instead.

Such wonderful drawings.

406 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:10:00am

re: #395 jill e

From the New Yorker article (an Obama speech given 8 days after 9-11)

We must also engage, however, in the more difficult task of understanding the sources of such madness. The essence of this tragedy, it seems to me, derives from a fundamental absence of empathy on the part of the attackers: an inability to imagine, or connect with, the humanity and suffering of others. Such a failure of empathy, such numbness to the pain of a child or the desperation of a parent, is not innate; nor, history tells us, is it unique to a particular culture, religion, or ethnicity. It may find expression in a particular brand of violence, and may be channeled by particular demagogues or fanatics. Most often, though, it grows out of a climate of poverty and ignorance, helplessness and despair.

We will have to make sure, despite our rage, that any U.S. military action takes into account the lives of innocent civilians abroad. We will have to be unwavering in opposing bigotry or discrimination directed against neighbors and friends of Middle Eastern descent. Finally, we will have to devote far more attention to the monumental task of raising the hopes and prospects of embittered children across the globe—children not just in the Middle East, but also in Africa, Asia, Latin America, Eastern Europe and within our own shores.

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!

407 keithgabryelski  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:10:05am

re: #389 NoSubmission

Yes, I remember that. but I have no idea how that FOX News reporter got 'terrorist' out of it.

Shyeah -- what the heck? the caption for that photo, for me, seemed to be:

(a thought bubble over michelle's head) -- you are getting a little extra something-something tonight, Mr. Presumptive Nominee.

408 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:10:46am
409 GGMac  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:10:49am

re: #340 Charles

It goes back a lot farther than that. Musicians in LA were doing it in the 80s. I've even, to my shame, done it myself. What else can you do when somebody goes for the fist bump? You don't want to be rude.


That fist-bump didn't bother me a bit - what did bother me, and what sent a cold chill down my spine - was the expression on her face...the look in her eyes. It was not a look of joy, and it was disturbing to see.

Check out the videos on You Tube - there was one viewing her from over his left shoulder, and shown in slo-mo. Will see if I can find it, to put up the link.

410 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:03am

re: #340 Charles

It goes back a lot farther than that. Musicians in LA were doing it in the 80s. I've even, to my shame, done it myself. What else can you do when somebody goes for the fist bump? You don't want to be rude.

It's actual a natural progression from the "dap" that Black and semi-hip White troops in Vietnam used, although that one was more complicated than the fist dap.
Definitely an "inner-city" start to it all.

411 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:04am

re: #400 Occasional Reader

And I'm not sure if what Obama is holding up really qualifies as a "fist", anyway.


Not much of a wrist is it?

412 Anna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:09am

Somehow don't see Kim Carnes singing 'she has Angie Davis hair'

Other than that and the sling is wrong for an AK-47, it hits too many true points that will stick with some readers in the future.

This is called friendly fire. Or fragging oneself. Its all accidental but still harmful.

413 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:10am

re: #391 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nuther one

What's funny is that, in the end, Stonn ended up marrying Uhura.

414 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:15am

B O before Obama.


[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...]

415 maddogg  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:17am

The real uproar is because the cover is just too damned close to reality.

416 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:26am

re: #404 DeafDog
It is Monday am or pm, so we are trying to lighten the mood. We don't have to be serious all the time.

417 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:35am

re: #404 DeafDog

Yeah, I know. But when half the folks are "just being silly" the humor fades...just my two cents.

This must just not be your day.

418 June_July  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:35am

Actually, this cartoon is either a brilliant move FOR Obama (if somehow his supporters engineered it), or a brilliant stroke of luck for him

It will end up doing exactly what Obama needs to close the deal on the presidency. It will delegitimize those who attack him on the basis of some of those things identified in the cartoon. Everyone will go around saying how ridiculous this picture is, and there goes last hope we had that there will not be an inexperienced tax-and-spend liberal who does not have the core of belief required to make the tough decisions will run the USA for the next 4 years.

This picture and the ensuing week of furor will close the door on any discussion on Obama's loyalties, love of America, or strength of character. Everone and their aunt will come out of the woodwork and testify on his behalf, and make the half-truths in this cartoon seem so patently ridiculous that they can not longer be considered.

But they are half-truths, and that's bad enough.

Watch and see how this unfolds. He will come out much stronger. Much like the Jackson thing, only much more dramatic.

419 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:37am

re: #384 Charles

No, I'm much more in the evolutionist side of that discussion, but I don't feel strongly...I don't really have a dog in that fight.

420 CommonCents  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:52am

re: #379 faraway

Obama is going insane. Mccain will not attack him, so his minions (Jesse Jackson) and the MSM have to continually say the GOP will do this, the GOP will do that.

Meanwhile, Obama continues the gaffe-a-day.

The old deflection maneuver manure.

421 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:11:55am

re: #398 MandyManners

What's next? Sniffing butts like dogs?

For heaven's sake, don't give them ideas. I don't want to see the kids doing that, especially since their pants are hanging down to mid-thigh.

422 Dar ul Harb  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:12:24am

re: #278 MajorPribluda

I haven't seen it mentioned that the cartoon portrays the Oval Office.

Actually, it's just Obama's pastel blue knockoff of the Oval Office.

423 gymnast  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:12:37am

The Ron Paul choice regarding the LGF Poll on the New Yorker Cover is there because it is the only choice that reflects the diaphonus chirascuro of Obama.

424 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:12:49am

re: #387 JamesTKirk

Yes, but they were at Quark's Shoe Repair service, being fixed, since he broke them in fight with the Klingnons, the previous episode.

(One of my favorite episodes was "The Wild Talking Kamel women of Planet Dromedarius!" Back then, they didn't have CGI, and couldn't create Star Wars style convincing aliens, so the Kamel women are all actresses running around in bikinis and floppy rubber camel masks.)

/Of course that's a made-up episode! At least, far as I know. Maybe they did something like it on Next Generation?

425 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:12:57am

Got to run, dear Lizards--I hope to catch up with you late!

426 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:13:23am

re: #421 Silhouette

For heaven's sake, don't give them ideas. I don't want to see the kids doing that, especially since their pants are hanging down to mid-thigh.

And they're calling each other "dawg". The butt-sniff is pretty much inevitable.

427 ec marm  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:13:30am

re: #402 biff

It's beautiful. The cover was released after the Sunday morning talking heads and before Rush. The left with no marching orders, and the right in a route.


Isn't it great when something happens and the left haven't been instructed what to think yet? It's one of the few times you'll ever find them speechless. Then the e-mail alerts go out to them, they get their talking points recharged and like the energizer bunny on speed, they're off again.

428 American Soldier  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:13:34am

re: #3 ratherdashing

Yo mamma wears combat boots

Hey! My mother served in WWII!

429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:13:43am

re: #423 gymnast

Whaaaa?

430 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:13:50am

Way OT - Bad Car Name Flood:

Ford Facade
Chevy Guzzler
Mercedes Pretense

431 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:14:05am

re: #398 MandyManners

What's next? Sniffing butts like dogs?

Heh!

(Just curiousity - have the lizards ever come up with a "title" for you? Just now, I immediately thought of some sort of Minister of Culture, but without the bureaucratic overtones.)

432 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:14:17am

re: #409 GGMac

That fist-bump didn't bother me a bit - what did bother me, and what sent a cold chill down my spine - was the expression on her face...the look in her eyes. It was not a look of joy, and it was disturbing to see.

Check out the videos on You Tube - there was one viewing her from over his left shoulder, and shown in slo-mo. Will see if I can find it, to put up the link.

Please do!

433 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:14:22am

Hummer

434 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:14:55am
435 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:15:12am

re: #421 Silhouette

For heaven's sake, don't give them ideas. I don't want to see the kids doing that, especially since their pants are hanging down to mid-thigh.

What was I thinking?

436 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:15:14am

Dodge Depreciator

437 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:15:26am

re: #392 coquimbojoe
Sigh. IF I EVER get him on the phone I will do so!

438 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:15:49am

re: #434 buzzsawmonkey

Why?


I've been dying to know what Obama's immediate comments were on the attacks of September 11, 2001.

439 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:16:02am

FU-150

440 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:16:24am
441 gymnast  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:16:24am

re: #429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whaaaa?

Transparency and smoke.

442 Donbmcd  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:16:37am

Not here is California you cannot !

re: #213 OldLineTexan

You can get yourself a nice American-made AK with only a smattering of foreign (usually Romanian) parts.

443 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:16:56am
444 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:16:57am

re: #431 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh!

(Just curiousity - have the lizards ever come up with a "title" for you? Just now, I immediately thought of some sort of Minister of Culture, but without the bureaucratic overtones.)

I prefer Empress of the Known Universe.

445 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:17:30am

The explanation proferred by the New Yorker editors for this "parody" - that they are simply satirizing what they perceive are their political opponents' perceptions of Mr. and Mrs. Obama - beggars belief, as its actual impact is precisely the opposite of what these folks intended it to be and is the functional equivalent of shooting an ally in the foot to demonstrate what they believe his enemies would do.

It would be as if the American Spectator published a cover depicting POW John McCain sipping a Mai-Tai while lounging languidly in a whirlpool at the Hanoi Hilton. Sure, they might argue that the cartoon was merely a parody of what they think is the liberal Democrat perception of Mr. McCain, but would anyone believe them?

I may be wrong, but I suspect that the New Yorker is in the tank for Mrs. Clinton and this cartoon parody was a thinly disguised and clumsily executed hit piece. Their response to the ensuing kerfuffle, in my opinion, betrays the ulterior motive behind the attack.

446 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:17:38am

re: #430 jamgarr

Way OT - Bad Car Name Flood:

Ford Facade
Chevy Guzzler
Mercedes Pretense

Toyota Turdcell. Oh, wait, that was a real car.

447 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:17:40am

re: #444 MandyManners

I prefer Empress of the Known Universe.

LOL!

448 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:17:43am

re: #438 NoSubmission

I've been dying to know what Obama's immediate comments were on the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Obama obviously supported a SOCIAL response.

449 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:17:48am

re: #430 jamgarr

Way OT - Bad Car Name Flood:

Ford Facade
Chevy Guzzler
Mercedes Pretense

Real-life example: The Mitsubishi Montero was marketed in Europe as the "Pajero". Which, in the Spanish of several countries in South America, is slang for "Jerkoff".

450 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:17:56am
451 American Soldier  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:18:17am

re: #415 maddogg

The real uproar is because the cover is just too damned close to reality.

Roger that.


The man's upbringing is a binary choice. Sen. Obama's father was a moslem. His step-father is a moslem. Obama attended a moslem parochial school in a predominantly moslem country, for whatever length of time. His Kenyan siblings and cousins appear to be moslems. By what we know of sharia law, that pretty much makes Mr. Obama a moslem. This fact is repeated frequently, worldwide, by moslem clergy and laity. If Sen. Obama became a Christian, of whatever denomination, that makes him a moslem apostate, free to be murdered at will by any practicing moslem; this little bit of sharia is also frequently repeated and defended by moslem clergy and laity worldwide.


While I can't fathom most of their motivations, I do know that they are bent on the destruction of America as we have known it; the America of free speech, free worship, freedom to to aspire and to achieve. They are willing to sacrifice the freedom of our children and grandchildren for their grievously flawed view of the world.They villify the Commander-in-Chief, do their utmost to undermine the morale of the men and women who are their sole defense against a hostile world, work to destroy the economic and political systems that allows them the luxury of protest, actively provide aid and comfort to our enemies. They espouse a world without borders, therefore with no nations. No United States of America.
452 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:18:32am

re: #446 Honorary Yooper

Toyota Turdcell. Oh, wait, that was a real car.

As was the AMC "Killer" (Matador).

453 CommonCents  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:18:41am

re: #444 MandyManners

I prefer Empress of the Known Universe.

I think we need to work on your self-confidence.

454 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:18:48am

re: #445 NemoParticularis

The explanation proferred by the New Yorker editors for this "parody" - that they are simply satirizing what they perceive are their political opponents' perceptions of Mr. and Mrs. Obama - beggars belief, as its actual impact is precisely the opposite of what these folks intended it to be and is the functional equivalent of shooting an ally in the foot to demonstrate what they believe his enemies would do.

It would be as if the American Spectator published a cover depicting POW John McCain sipping a Mai-Tai while lounging languidly in a whirlpool at the Hanoi Hilton. Sure, they might argue that the cartoon was merely a parody of what they think is the liberal Democrat perception of Mr. McCain, but would anyone believe them?

I may be wrong, but I suspect that the New Yorker is in the tank for Mrs. Clinton and this cartoon parody was a thinly disguised and clumsily executed hit piece. Their response to the ensuing kerfuffle, in my opinion, betrays the ulterior motive behind the attack.

Nope, you're very much right. The New Yorker is very much pro-Hillary.

455 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:18:55am

Karman-Electra

456 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:19:05am

re: #367 keithgabryelski

It's not that I don't get why it's on the cover. I don't get why anyone in their right mind thinks that this is some new phenomenon or that the Obamas are doing something that millions of folks haven't' done before.

457 faraway  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:19:06am

Obama just bought a new iPhony.

458 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:19:27am

re: #437 realwest

Sigh. IF I EVER get him on the phone I will do so!

Thank you!

459 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:19:42am

Pius

460 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:19:52am

re: #455 jamgarr

Karman-Electra

Toyota Priapus

461 faraway  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:20:26am

Obama Party Bus

462 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:20:27am

re: #418 June_July
I respectfully disagree - I think this cover "art" will confirm a lot of folks fears about an Obama Presidency and for those who don't pay attention to the news, will come as a real reality check for them.
I think this cartoon COULD hurt Obama big time.
The Billy Ayers, Bernadine Dorhn, Rev Wright, Rev
Fleghler will see the truth in it that they expect to see, but all but the weirdest of the weird will find this to be thought provoking (and I say this even though I voted "Stupid" in the poll).

463 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:20:40am

Lamborghini Testosteronne

464 CommonCents  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:20:53am

re: #461 faraway

Obama Party Bus

Are you down with O.P.B. ?

465 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:20:57am

re: #460 Occasional Reader

Toyota Priapus


Call your mechanic if you experience accelaration lasting more than 4 hours

466 jaunte  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:21:23am

Porsche (mid-engine) Crisis

467 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:21:24am
468 JamesTKirk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:21:30am

re: #464 CommonCents

Are you down with O.P.B. ?

Yeah, you know me.

469 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:21:32am

re: #463 Occasional Reader

Lamborghini Testosteronne


Best One Yet!

470 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:21:35am

re: #465 jamgarr

Call your mechanic if you experience accelaration lasting more than 4 hours

They also have a major safety issue; the hood keeps popping up.

471 wolfie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:21:39am

re: #361 buzzsawmonkey

Reagan didn't change all that much, either.
I guess he was the original Reagan Democrat.

472 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:21:57am

re: #450 buzzsawmonkey

From fist-bump to FISA-bump in just a few weeks!

Another one...

Liberals Against Obama

I like the "Yes He Can Spy On You!" t-shirt at the bottom.

473 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:22:09am

acceleration

474 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:22:20am

Honda Lawn Mower

475 greenmiler  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:22:42am

Clever, Stupid, or Ron Paul....aren't the last two the same answer

476 Drained Brain  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:22:55am

Kate at smalldeadanimals rightly points out that reaction to the cover reveals more irony than satire. It was meant to skewer those stupid knuckle-dragging right wingers but guess who's upset? The folks who've been gleefully writing, drawing, and saying the most despicable things possible over the past eight years or so.

Besides, Hillary Clinton (remember her?) and her campaign are the prime sources of the Obamaphobia being "satirized."

477 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:22:57am

ESSO, international oil company, attempts at a balanced view. ...

Later, when this was discovered to mean "stalled car" in Japanese,
Changed to Exxon

478 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:23:04am

Peugeot Pyro

479 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:23:14am

re: #395 jill e

From the New Yorker article (an Obama speech given 8 days after 9-11)

Summary:

"Yeah, it was bad BUT, they were probably poor.

And we can't fight back because...uh...we might hurt civilians.

Besides, the real problem here isn't that they tried to murder 50,000 innocents; it is that one or two of us might now give dirty looks to someone in America that looks Middle Eastern. That is where all our efforts of prevention must go. For us to do that only illustrates how bigoted we are. For them to murder 3000 people isn't their bigotry, of course, just because they're poor.

Thank you and goodnight. Oh, almost forgot, 'More socialism.' "

480 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:23:27am
481 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:23:37am
482 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:23:39am

Saab Bitch

483 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:24:03am
484 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:24:39am

re: #414 ibmkeyboard
Hey there my friend = please check out my #410 and tell me what ya think!

485 American Soldier  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:24:45am

re: #462 realwest

(and I say this even though I voted "Stupid" in the poll).


Oops. I thought "Ron Paul" was the only acceptable answer in any on-line poll.

486 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:25:34am

Rush just had an item about some idiot congress critter telling a bunch of kids the mess in Sudan, the BlackHawk incident were all caused by....wait for it...Global Warming. Oatmeal for brains.

487 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:25:46am

re: #477 ibmkeyboard

ESSO, international oil company, attempts at a balanced view. ...

Later, when this was discovered to mean "stalled car" in Japanese,
Changed to Exxon

That's the urban legend. The real story is that they could not use Esso across the US. Some of the other standards (Standard of Indiana (Amoco) in particular) blocked their use of the term Esso in their marketing areas, forcing them to use Humble or Enco.

Standard of New Jersey switched their US marketing to Exxon to remedy this. In most places in the world, including Canada, they are still known as Esso.

488 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:25:47am

re: #485 American Soldier

Oops. I thought "Ron Paul" was the only acceptable answer in any on-line poll.

Me too. I think he's winning this poll, by the way.

489 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:26:39am

re: #441 gymnast

Please remember that I am monosyllabic.

490 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:26:43am

Jeep Grand Native American

491 Xenobyte  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:26:51am

We need to get the facts out about Barack Hussein Obama... That cover nicely sums some major points up, although I missed a reference to the ultra racist teachings of reverend Jeremiah Wright (a close personal friend of Obama for over 20 years), whose sermons include daily references to the Jewish world conspiracy (oppressing Palestinians, framing Muslims for 9/11 etc.) and the white people conspiracy that created HIV to eradicate the black man...

492 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:26:54am

Hi All!
Just stuck up here in the hot garage office, and finished all my paperwork, so, I took a look here. That cover is too funny! Stupid of them, but, what do you expect. The KOS diary was pretty funny too, I really liked this gem:
Why Does Michelle Have The Gun? (2+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
bten, Zrarieh

Even in crapola like these, there's the conscious effort to masculanize (in this case violentize) Democratic Women and de-masculanize (i.e., same) Democratic Men.

Hmm. So become a liberal, and your women grow penises and your men grow vaginas. That's basically the message.

by kingfishstew on Mon Jul 14, 2008 at 01:48:10 AM PDT

493 BigDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:27:06am

The fist bump was also part of the "dap handshake" used by black Vietnam era soldiers.

494 Van Impe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:27:07am

I have not had time to review all 482 comments posted so far, hopefully someone referred to the classic line from the movie This Is Spinal Tap:

It's such a fine line between stupid and clever.

495 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:27:21am

re: #482 jamgarr

Saab Bitch

Volvo Tank

496 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:27:49am

re: #393 pre-Boomer Marine brat,

You just called me a moonbat. I believe that I will cry now.

Wah.

497 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:28:14am

Canyonero

/Simpsons homage

498 keithgabryelski  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:28:46am

re: #494 Van Impe

I have not had time to review all 482 comments posted so far, hopefully someone referred to the classic line from the movie This Is Spinal Tap:

Ctrl-F fine line

499 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:29:07am

Has the "lovely and talented" Ted Rall weighed in on this yet?

500 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:29:10am

re: #483 buzzsawmonkey

Saab Story.

"Buzz" -

Thought that was my Product Presentation when I sold those "Colts for Yuppies." One never discussed the ones with the German Ford V-4 engines pre the "99."

-S-

501 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:29:39am

Ford Zippo

502 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:30:02am

Does Michelle have to pee?

503 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:30:10am

Dodge Bullet

504 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:30:19am

re: #408 ploome hineni

Under Indonesian law, any child of a Muslim father is automatically considered a Muslim. Neither the mother nor the child have any say in the matter. Apostasy is illegal in all Muslim countries. Therefore, in any Sharia court in the world, Obama would be considered an apostate Muslim.

505 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:30:20am

re: #481 ploome hineni quoting Pipes:

"But if he was born and raised a Muslim and is now hiding that fact, this points to a major deceit, a fundamental misrepresentation about himself that has profound implications about his character and his suitability as president."

Indeed. This one single sentence elegantly and succinctly explains the primary reason the Spanish Crown asked Rome to establish an office of Inquisition shortly after Spain concluded its 700 year long Reconquista of Iberia from the Moors.

506 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:30:28am

re: #503 Occasional Reader

Dodge Bullet


LOL!

507 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:30:30am

re: #499 TalkinKamel
He hasn't been heard from in a while. Good.

508 faraway  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:30:39am

Chrysler Caliphate

509 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:30:52am

re: #501 jamgarr

Ford Zippo

Lights up in the back quite nicely.

510 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:30:52am

re: #502 Silhouette

No. She always has that "pissed off" look.

511 Sir Napsalot  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:31:29am

Don't foget, they were drawn in the Oval Office already.

512 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:31:31am

re: #484 realwest

Hey there my friend = please check out my #410 and tell me what ya think!

Afternoon real.

Yeah.

all the black troops putting up the fist, me and some whites also.. heh
Sgt. says first SOB puts up his fist in the chow hall and
I will blow/shoot it off.

Mean Vietnam Sargent's invented the fist shake.

513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:31:33am

KIA Keelyou!

514 American Soldier  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:31:40am

re: #496 Iron Fist

,

You just called me a moonbat. I believe that I will cry now.

Wah.

Yo, Bro.

515 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:32:31am

re: #300 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Always happy when "The Princess Bride" is quoted.

As you wish.

516 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:32:37am

Chevy Carbonator

517 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:33:10am

re: #510 DeafDog

No. She always has that "pissed off" look.

I was looking at her crossed legs. Of all the things I got from the picture, that was the first that jumped out at me.

Those right wingnuts must think she has overactive bladder syndrom!

518 wolfie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:33:31am

Dan Rather, I believe, drives an

Acura Fake

519 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:33:55am
520 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:34:23am

Saturn Stickerprice

521 faraway  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:34:29am

Hummer AllDay

522 American Soldier  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:35:03am

re: #512 ibmkeyboard

Afternoon real.

Yeah.

all the black troops putting up the fist, me and some whites also.. heh
Sgt. says first SOB puts up his fist in the chow hall and
I will blow/shoot it off.

Mean Vietnam Sargent's invented the fist shake.

Thank you for bringing back some memories of 1972 in all their Technicolor glory.

523 June_July  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:35:21am

re: #462 realwest
I pray you're right.

We can't afford this guy.

524 ErnieG  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:35:28am

re: #477 ibmkeyboard

ESSO, international oil company, attempts at a balanced view. ...

Later, when this was discovered to mean "stalled car" in Japanese,
Changed to Exxon

At least they didn't say Bite the Wax Tadpole.

525 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:35:34am
526 GGMac  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:35:45am

re: #432 MandyManners

Please do!


Hi, Mandy - here's the link. It's not the one I saw originally, but close enough that her expression can be seen.

Unfortunately - putting up with Chrissytingle-legmatthews is necessary.

527 Anna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:35:48am

re: #501 jamgarr

That was the Pinto I think.

528 faraway  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:35:58am

BMW Mini Skirt

529 itellu3times  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:36:01am

re: #418 June_July

That seems to be what the New Yorker guys claim to have intended, but I think it's pretty obvious now they stepped on their own dicks.


(And ain't that a strange metaphor, when stated in the plural!)

530 trailortrash  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:36:02am

pon raul its always pon raul

531 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:36:08am

re: #446 Honorary Yooper

Toyota Turdcell. Oh, wait, that was a real car.

Still have one, 1996, only 86,000 miles, runs fine.
(My wife doesn't drive that much, obviously)

But then there's the Isuzu Impulse, with the big "Impulse" logo between the tail lights.
I see that and say "I want the one with Warp Drive"

532 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:36:11am

re: #527 Anna

That was the Pinto I think.


Ding, ding, ding!

533 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:36:41am

re: #506 jamgarr

LOL!

"jam" -

The inside joke about my first New Car was - "TAX DODGE."

-S-

534 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:36:59am

re: #493 BigDog Ayup. See my #410.

535 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:37:04am
536 DeafDog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:37:24am

re: #517 Silhouette

Good eye. Maybe she needs that medicince to shrink her enlarging prostate.

537 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:37:30am

Plymouth Roadrage

538 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:38:14am
539 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:38:16am

Have you all heard that the president is going to lift the drilling ban?
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

540 keithgabryelski  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:38:32am

re: #535 ploome hineni

of course

and, his mother semed to have an affinity for muslim men, and the islamic culture

she worked, predominately in African countries attempting to raise the standard of living by providing (what is now known as) micro-loans to village woman.

I believe.

541 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:39:05am

re: #538 buzzsawmonkey

Did they take the Plymouth Rock out of production?

Yep. BTW I did own a Fury once. They reintroduced it as the Roadrage.

542 Charles  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:39:06am

re: #539 CapeCoddah

Have you all heard that the president is going to lift the drilling ban?
[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Yes, but it's meaningless unless Congress approves it. And they're going to fight it tooth and nail.

543 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:39:41am

Thats what I was afraid of.

544 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:39:59am

re: #512 ibmkeyboard
Oh yeah - the Fist Bump is a direct descendent of the Dap [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

545 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:40:22am

re: #514 American Soldier,

Hey, man! Good to see you!

546 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:40:34am

re: #487 Honorary Yooper

That's the urban legend. The real story is that they could not use Esso across the US. Some of the other standards (Standard of Indiana (Amoco) in particular) blocked their use of the term Esso in their marketing areas, forcing them to use Humble or Enco.

Standard of New Jersey switched their US marketing to Exxon to remedy this. In most places in the world, including Canada, they are still known as Esso.

Esso was Standard Oil, which was split into two (antitrust), Esso (east of the Mississippi) and Enco (west).
I think when SO no longer had such a monopoly, they rejoined, and became Exxon.

547 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:40:36am

Nissan Sentra Daylight

548 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:40:58am
Dap gained widespread recent attention when a fist bump took place between Barack Obama and his wife before his presidential nomination victory speec

h,[1] resulting in a number of press articles explaining this custom.[2]

Dap?
We always said Peace Bro.

I guess withdrawal is a form of Peace?

Charles has upped!

549 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:41:01am
550 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:41:53am
551 AuntAcid  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:42:02am

re: #532 jamgarr

Ding, ding, ding!

The Pinto produced it's own gas...

552 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:42:06am

Thanks for playing - going upthread

553 American Soldier  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:42:44am

re: #525 ploome hineni

bumping and slapping, what a wonderful demonstration of 'dignity and pride'

Careful with your phrasing. You invite an invidious comparison with shuckling.

554 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:43:03am
"President Garcia-Thompson: You passed out cigarettes for a smoke-a-thon on Earth Day. You installed speed bumps on the handicapped ramps and, most recently, you dumped 100 pounds of... MEAT on a peaceful vegan protest! "

From PCU (the movie) been thinking about this all day. Ok, off topic, but just love it when folks are offended.

555 HippieforLife  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:43:29am

re: #241 NoSubmission

"I have no response to that" is a slam?

556 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:43:31am

re: #548 ibmkeyboard
Long as Charles hasn't re-upped!

557 ErnieG  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:43:59am

re: #550 buzzsawmonkey

NPR said this morning that the International Court at the Hague has issued a warrant for the arrest of the ruler of Sudan, on the grounds that Sudan has been engaged in war crimes and genocide in Darfur.

Sudan, of course, blew the Court a big fat raspberry.

Consider the many years it took for this "international tribunal" to issue this toothless decree. Oh yeah, the law enforcement model for dealing with terror states is working real well.

It's hard to respect them when they can't keep their pants zipped.

558 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:44:06am

re: #541 jamgarr

Did they take the Plymouth Rock out of production?

lol

559 stevieray  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:45:57am

Just got to this thread and I haven't had a chance to read the whole thing, but I've got a question:

Has anybody thought about the way this cover will play in the Muslim world? If they think the New Yorker is mocking Islam, things could get tricky for the magazine's employees, and if they think this cover is serious it could hugely complicate Obama's foreign policy positions -- both pre November and [shudder at the possibility] post election.

560 HippieforLife  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:46:34am

re: #395 jill e

But, as usual, Obama will say he was "inartful" or it was "poor phrasing". The man has never uttered a word that he couldn't change later or trying to say we aren't listening to him!

561 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:46:44am

re: #559 stevieray

Be extra funny if the Muslim world thought it was a picture of Muhammad.

562 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:46:49am

Well since this thread is about dead, I can voice my being pissed off that I nailed the "Fist Bump" at my #410 and everyone went racing past it.
C'mon folks, y'all know how hard it is for me to keep up with all y'all most of the time!
Kudos goes to where first mentioned and described.
/feel better now; mini-rant over!

563 American Soldier  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:46:49am

re: #545 Iron Fist

,

Hey, man! Good to see you!

Likewise.

/ the lawn awaits, and I have to be at the Armory this evening. Later.

564 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:47:15am
565 dolfan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:47:24am

It's basically a picture of all the things we're not allowed to bring up in discussions about BHO, including those big ears.

566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:47:46am

re: #562 realwest

There, there. I dinged ya, better now?

/

567 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:48:41am

re: #564 ploome hineni
Where did American Soldier " compare 'dapping' with Jews praying"?!

568 American Soldier  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:49:16am

re: #564 ploome hineni

shuckling is not a demonstration of 'dignity and pride', you are really digging for a way to compare apples and ranges

now why would you compare 'dapping' with Jews praying

that is the ugly issue

When and where did you serve?
Ah, I don't have time for this. The lawn really needs cutting.

569 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:49:16am

re: #340 Charles

It goes back a lot farther than that. Musicians in LA were doing it in the 80s. I've even, to my shame, done it myself. What else can you do when somebody goes for the fist bump? You don't want to be rude.

Pretend you are playing Rock, Paper, Scissors. Paper beats Rock!

570 OregonMuse  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:49:21am
It's left v. far left, and it's up to the readers to figure out. They want to blame it on the right wingers. They need to blame it on the right wingers, but the truth hurts - practically every smear on Obama has come from the left, whether it is Hillary's shills, lackeys or other Democrats.

Yeah, but after the Dem convention when the campaign starts in earnest, every single one of these smears will be blamed on Republicans. Just you watch.

(see: Horton, Willie)

571 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:49:29am

re: #561 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Be extra funny if the Muslim world thought it was a picture of Muhammad.
Cartoon Bombings!

Confederate uprisings.

/dogs and cats sleeping together
end of oil production.

572 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:49:40am

re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Yes, thankew very much; woulda felt better if ya'd dinged up my #410 though!

573 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:49:57am
574 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:50:15am

re: #350 ibmkeyboard

/good article.

love the cartoon.
[Link: www.cartoonbank.com...]

The cartoon caption contests are a lot of fun.

575 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:52:41am

re: #356 JamesTKirk

Depends on whether or not I hear that rockin' "Kirk about to battle" background music, and my shirt is torn.

Dunt dunt da da da da da dadada da da!

576 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:53:00am

re: #559 stevieray writes: "Has anybody thought about the way this cover will play in the Muslim world? If they think the New Yorker is mocking Islam, things could get tricky for the magazine's employees, and if they think this cover is serious it could hugely complicate Obama's foreign policy positions -- both pre November and [shudder at the possibility] post election."

Excellent question. My guess is no. And if there is any of the usual caterwauling from the usual suspects, you can be certain the New Yorker will throw whomever it has to under the bus, followed by bowing and scraping obsequiously to the Mohammedans.

577 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:53:05am
578 realwest  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:53:35am

re: #573 ploome hineni
Uh, American Soldier is, I believe, female and I never heard of "shuckling" in connection with anything Jewish. Dabning, yes, shuckling no.
And American Soldier isn't Anti-Semitic. Please just take my word for this ploome and let it go.

579 profitsbeard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:53:37am

Toyota Troofer.

Implodes on ignition.

580 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:54:14am

re: #559 stevieray

Has anybody thought about the way this cover will play in the Muslim world? If they think the New Yorker is mocking Islam, things could get tricky for the magazine's employees, and if they think this cover is serious it could hugely complicate Obama's foreign policy positions -- both pre November and [shudder at the possibility] post election.

Behead those who insult the Obamahdi!

581 American Soldier  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:55:58am

re: #573 ploome hineni

did you see why I responded that way

did you see his post>?

Dammit. All right, I'll make the time.

Your offhand dismissal of a ritual that was important, for whatever reasons, to many people at least during one point in history, smacks of bigotry.

582 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:56:12am

re: #410 realwest

There. Sigh.

583 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:56:17am

re: #572 realwest

Yes, thankew very much; woulda felt better if ya'd dinged up my #410 though!

i forgot,
put on my scuba gear and on my way up to ding it.

ha.re: #578 realwest
anything Jewish. Dabning,

WTH is Dabning?

584 maddogg  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:56:58am

re: #542 Charles

Yes, but it's meaningless unless Congress approves it. And they're going to fight it tooth and nail.

I guess Congress is shooting for a new all time low in approval ratings. I have trouble believing the Democrats are going to make such large gains in both houses with the lowest approval ratings in history, and striving to go lower.

585 AuntAcid  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:57:06am

Speaking of Muslims...

A man is taking a walk in Central park in New York. Suddenly he sees a little girl being attacked by a pit bull dog . He runs over and starts fighting with the dog. He succeeds in killing the dog and saving the girl's life.
A policeman who was watching the scene walks over and says: "You are a hero, tomorrow you can read it in all the newspapers: "Brave New Yorker saves the life of little girl"
The man says: - "But I am not a New Yorker!" "Oh ,then it will say in newspapers in the morning: 'Brave American saves life of little girl'" – the policeman answers.
"But I am not an American!" – says the man. "Oh, what are you then? " The man says: - "I am a Saudi !"
The next day the newspapers says: "Islamic extremist kills innocent American dog.

586 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:57:13am

re: #575 Colonel Panik

HAH! BEAT YOU TO IT!

Now, you have to go and find it and give me a little dingy sumthin'.

587 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:58:41am

WTH happened to my ding.

ding ding not working

588 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:59:04am
589 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:00:05am
590 A Balrog of Morgoth  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:02:41am

Thank God for the feckless "cleverness" of the American Left.

They just kicked the ball into their own goal.

591 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:02:58am
"Davening" is the act of praying; "shuckling" is the term for the various movements--swaying back and forth, bowing, etc.--which occur during davening.

thank you./

592 bob505  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:03:43am

Will thousands of enraged BO supporters riot in the streets and issue death threats against this cartoonist?

p.s. I voted for Ron Paul. I always vote for Ron Paul.

593 ChefJeff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:04:07am

I thought it was hilarious.....

594 Tigger2005  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:07:09am

A cover that accurate presented conservative views of Barack and Michelle would feature Michelle as a screeching adolescent and Barack as a precocious toddler, with both of them believing that life should be totally fair, that parents are totally unfair tyrants, and that money grows abundantly on trees for easy, stress-free harvesting.

595 songbird  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:07:18am

re: #301 yitzy

It's missing a cartoon Che flag.

Some clever lizard needs to Photoshop in the Che flag and the $600 earrings.

What else shall be added?

596 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:07:26am

re: #585 AuntAcid

Speaking of Muslims predictable bias in the print media...

A man is taking a walk in Central park in New York. Suddenly he sees a little girl being attacked by a pit bull dog . He runs over and starts fighting with the dog. He succeeds in killing the dog and saving the girl's life.
A policeman who was watching the scene walks over and says: "You are a hero, tomorrow you can read it in all the newspapers: "Brave New Yorker saves the life of little girl"
The man says: - "But I am not a New Yorker!" "Oh ,then it will say in newspapers in the morning: 'Brave American saves life of little girl'" – the policeman answers.
"But I am not an American!" – says the man. "Oh, what are you then? " The man says: - "I am an Saudi Israeli!"
The next day the newspapers says: "Islamic extremist Fanatical Zionist kills innocent American dog.

Fixed it. Now onward to the BBC, where fanatical Christian extremists are busy beheading peace-loving Mohammedans.

597 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:08:02am
598 Sizzlack  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:12:35am

That KOS diary is better than television. It's freakin hilarious to watch them absolutely freak out over a magazine cover. Wow...maybe they are a lot more similar to the Muslims who freaked out over the cartoons that we thought.

599 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:16:14am

re: #546 Kosh's Shadow

Esso was Standard Oil, which was split into two (antitrust), Esso (east of the Mississippi) and Enco (west).
I think when SO no longer had such a monopoly, they rejoined, and became Exxon.

Nope. Enco was Esso's (Standard Oil of New Jersey) name in states where they could not use Esso.

The original Standard Oil was split into several companies, including:

Standard Oil of Indiana, later Amoco
Standard Oil of New Jersey, Esso, Enco, later Exxon
Standard Oil of New York, Socony, later Mobil
Standard Oil of California, Socal, Calso, later Chevron
Standard Oil of Kentucky, Kyso, merged with Chevron
Standard Oil of Ohio, Sohio, merged with BP (the original Standard Oil, BTW)
The Ohio Oil Company, Marathon

And many, many more.

600 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:17:46am

re: #598 Sizzlack

...maybe they are a lot more similar to the Muslims who freaked out over the cartoons that we thought.

Insofar as the KOS Kidz are humorless, self-righteously parochial, dogmatically irrational, bitterly hateful, spitefully malicious and consumed with seething rage, my guess is they are soul mates.

601 Logic Probe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:20:57am

I had to vote Ron Paul, because the cover had so many nice, clever touches to lampoon the idea that anyone could see him like that, since he is so far from it in their perception. But it was stupid because so many things about him point to exactly such suspicions. From Bill Ayers to his childhood as a Muslim (what Allah gives may never be taken away) to his Socialist rants and racist friends. MO has never been proud of America, after all. NY has painted the Obamas exactly as I see them. So, RP vote from me.

602 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:21:35am

re: #507 pingjockey

And we'll hope it stays that way!

603 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:27:24am

re: #600 NemoParticularis

Insofar as the KOS Kidz are humorless, self-righteously parochial, dogmatically irrational, bitterly hateful, spitefully malicious and consumed with seething rage, my guess is they are soul mates.

But they won't riot. It is too much like "action." They may protest to "raise awareness" for someone else to riot, but they're a bit too lazy

604 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:30:34am

re: #603 Silhouette

But they won't riot. It is too much like "action." They may protest to "raise awareness" for someone else to riot, but they're a bit too lazy

True, although they seem to have sufficient energy to organize and operate as a fifth column in our midst.

605 ec marm  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:33:32am

re: #584 maddogg

I guess Congress is shooting for a new all time low in approval ratings. I have trouble believing the Democrats are going to make such large gains in both houses with the lowest approval ratings in history, and striving to go lower.


This is the part of the American electorate I will never understand. Approval ratings not even double digit, after mid-terms threw more Dems into the mix. What will occur after November? More Dems. The definition of insanity; repeating the same action over and over, expecting a different reslut result.

606 A.W.  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:37:00am

I checkng off "Ron Paul" means you think it was stupid. Me and my friends use that name as a shorthand for stupidity all the time. "Dude, you just ran a red light, that is sooooo Ron Paul of you."

607 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:39:30am
608 maddogg  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:41:06am

re: #605 ec marm

If the predicted gains are made, I can safely say I don't have, and am never likely to ever have a clue.

609 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:41:40am

This cover is obviously not an example of intelligent design, but it is easy to see how it evolved from earlier species of lefty strawman.

610 marjoriemoon  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:45:34am

re: #408 ploome hineni

.....this says it best

The Obama Muslim Shell Game: Catholic School Docs Show Obama Registered As Muslim

it is a shell game,
and if we pick the correct shell,
we are branded as racists

I would have thought the Wright scandal "sealed the deal" as to his religion, but I guess not. He gets the worst of being a Muslim and the worst of being a Christian.... there is only one way to satisfy people who think like you and I'm not saying it.

He was a Muslim for like 5 minutes when he was a kid and had little to no idea what it was about.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the man, but I hate worse when people tell stories out of school.

I voted for Ron Paul. I find the photo pretty offensive and if they did something "creative" with McCain, I can only imagine what that would be, you all would be howling.

611 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:46:06am

re: #586 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

HAH! BEAT YOU TO IT!

Now, you have to go and find it and give me a little dingy sumthin'.

I know you are a vegetarian but how about a some "Chili's Baybuh Back Riiiiiiibs..."

"I want my Baybuh back baybuh back baybuh back..."

612 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:47:16am

re: #605 ec marm

This is the part of the American electorate I will never understand. Approval ratings not even double digit, after mid-terms threw more Dems into the mix. What will occur after November? More Dems. The definition of insanity; repeating the same action over and over, expecting a different reslut result.

Mencken once said that "...that the average citizen is half-witted, and hence not to be trusted to either his own devices or his own thoughts."

My own study of recent American history compels me to agree with him for the most part and to confess having an elitist perspective. What differentiates me and other like-minded conservatives from liberal elitists, however, is that our elitism is passive (if people choose to live in supine ignorance then they should be permitted to do so unfettered, insofar as their ignorance does not imperil my existence.

The liberal, on the other hand, is an active elitist who believes that he is duty-bound, as a superior creature, to save the ignorant and the unwashed from imperiling their own, vote-rich, existence.

613 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:54:35am
614 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:56:17am
615 Maine's Michael  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:12:39am

re: #607 buzzsawmonkey

Comments by the New Yorker cover artist and his contemporaries here and here.

Does it matter what they say?

They blew it, thank God!

616 David Baker  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:12:52am

Always thankful for the opportunity to vote Ron Paul.

Meanwhile, I'm headed over to my local, Hugo Chavez 7-11 to get the New Yorker - not the entire issue, just the cover. Which I will laminate to the back of my pick-up, above the NRA sticker and slightly below the gun rack.

617 looking closely  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:15:23am

re: #610 marjoriemoon


He was a Muslim for like 5 minutes when he was a kid and had little to no idea what it was about.


Really?

Quote adult Senator Obama, from the New York Times:

“I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office (excerpts are on my blog, [Link: www.nytimes.com...] He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”

Moreover, Mr. Obama’s own grandfather in Kenya was a Muslim. Mr. Obama never met his grandfather and says he isn’t sure if his grandfather’s two wives were simultaneous or consecutive, or even if he was Sunni or Shiite. (O.K., maybe Mr. Obama should just give up on Alabama.)

618 Maine's Michael  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:16:17am

Obama's reaction:

"New Yorkers are embittered by the poor economy.

They then cling to their latte's and their Clinton's."

619 SecondComing  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:18:45am

This all reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Elaine gets the guy at the New Yorker to admit that he doesn't know what the cartoon means. I got it. And it's amazing that the Obamatons don't. Unless they just like feigning to use it to their advantage. Of course this is how they react to any perceived negative directed at their messiah.

620 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:28:27am

re: #618 Maine's Michael

Obama's reaction: "New Yorkers are embittered by the poor economy. They then cling to their latte's and their Clinton's."

Let's do this the right way, shall we?

Here's the text of the full and correct quote:

"You go into these big cities in New York and California and, like a lot of big cities on the east and west coasts, Reagan conservatism has endured for 25 years and shows no sign of being successfully suppressed. And they were let down by the Clinton administration, and suffered the indignity of the invalidly selected Bush administration, and liberal blogs and mainstream media keep insisting that somehow conservatism is going to die and it has not.

And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to Priuses or judicial activism or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or anti-American sentiment or anti-capitalist sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

621 lurking faith  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:29:23am

Finally - a poll in which it truly makes sense to vote "Ron Paul."

622 Kostya Lotz  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:34:55am

Serious or stupid? Ron Paul? Somehow, one element doesn't belong and it's not a stupid as your think...
I especially like Michelle's 'fro, ehr... natural.

She kinda channels Angela Davis, its interesting that the Spartacus page leaves out the details about the Angela's gun registrations.

Combat Boots for Revolution, Comrade!

623 marjoriemoon  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:42:32am

re: #617 looking closely

Like I said, he was a Muslim for 5 minutes when he was a little kid and didn't know anything. And I don't see what his family members' religions have anything to do with anything. Would you like to be judged on the things your family does?

He's a Christian and has been for a very long time. You may feel that whether he's a good one or bad one is up for debate, but personally, I find the whole subject unseemly, as much as the color of his skin.

My only great concern for the Wright scandal was (is) the messages he received about Israel and the Jews.

624 Maine's Michael  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:42:39am

re: #620 NemoParticularis

Well done.

I'll be the idea guy, and you flesh it out, okay?

;)

625 marjoriemoon  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:44:26am

re: #614 ploome hineni

tell me, does the Hamsa talk to you?

Why do you ask.

626 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:45:06am

re: #618 Maine's Michael

Yes, I have to agree with an earlier poster, who suggested this cartoon might be the New Yorker striking back at Obama for displacing their beloved Hillary.

Now they're trying to pass it off as racy and pungent satire, directed at---who else?---bigoted right-wingers, but that's pretty par for the course these days, whenever a left-liberal outlet makes a gaffe. They either try to pass it off as satire, or claim it's performance art.

627 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:47:24am

re: #624 Maine's Michael

Well done. I'll be the idea guy, and you flesh it out, okay? ;)

Works for me, MM.

628 AZDave  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:50:45am

There's a fourth choice: Right On!

629 wannabuyaduck  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:53:11am

It was Enco rather than Esso that had the negative connotation in Japanese -- I had always heard it meant "stalled car" but the more literal translation is given in this article as "engine failure" -- [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

630 TalkinKamel  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 11:55:05am

re: #598 Sizzlack

The HuffPost is, apparently, going crazy too. (But, then, they've always been nutzoid.)

631 AZDave  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:01:38pm

re: #72 realwest

NOW WAIT A DAMN MINUTE - Kos hisownself said "FUCK OBAMA" and FUCK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY" because of Obama's flip flopping on FISA, gun control, Iraq, and a whole host of other issues as he "tries to move to the center, forgetting that we (i.e., the "activist base of the Dem Party, according to Kos) mad it possible for Obama to get the nomination!
In fact it was soooo good (or bad, depending on your pov) that Charles had a thread about it!
Now he's back to fighting for Obama?!

He's just "refining" his point of view.

632 AZDave  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:07:29pm

re: #100 rightwinger3

That's why I love this place...Ron Paul is tied with Stupid!

There's a difference?

633 wannabuyaduck  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:17:35pm

When I first heard about the New Yorker article and saw some excerpts, I thought, amazing -- at last, someone is taking a closer look. Then when I saw the cover, I thought, rats, why did that have to be on that issue, as I could see it causing a whole lot of distraction from the article itself. I haven't read the whole article yet (only some of the extracts), so I don't know how meaty it is in its entirety, but it looks like it is at least a start.

634 looking closely  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:19:56pm

re: #623 marjoriemoon

Like I said, he was a Muslim for 5 minutes when he was a little kid and didn't know anything.


Did you even bother to read what was written above?

By his own admission, Obama was formally schooled as a Muslim for YEARS including Koran study, to the point where he can still (as an adult US Senator) recite the Islamic call to prayer.

How is that "five minutes"?

Its insulting to his (and our) intelligence to think that Obama doesn't remember what happened when he was a kid or that it doesn't make any difference how he was brought up or indoctrinated during his formative years. And how does this admission by him that he was schooled as a Muslim, reconcile with his later claim that he was born a Christian?

Now in fact, NOBODY is claiming with a straight face that Obama guy is a PRACTISING Muslim or some kind of closeted Islamist. Everyone, by this point, knows that Obama is, instead a person who has spent 20+ years practicing whatever flavor of "Afrocentric" Christianity is promulgated in Reverend Wright's Church.

The question, if any, is to what extent Obama's childhood indoctrination affects his current attitudes and beliefs, and why he's felt compelled to dissemble about this.

635 Maine's Michael  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:23:00pm

Obama's comet is going to make quite a sizzle when it plops into the ocean.

636 Maine's Michael  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:24:25pm

Latest Obama reaction:

"New Yorker editors = Typical white persons."

637 big L  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:24:35pm

and with Nasrallah look-a-like on the wall and the burning American Flag in the fireplace...
Stupid dopey from people who live and work within 20 blockes of each other for people who also live right near by and never have talked to a Republican or eek! a conservative.

638 big L  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:25:41pm

Note that the room and rug look like the "Oval Office" too.

639 steveoh  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:26:32pm

I wanted to vote "Ron Paul stupid". A new level of stupidity. But of course "stupid is as stupid does".

640 big L  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:31:17pm

Al Salaam aleichem, Presidente al-Obama...
/drawing on the cartoon idea...

641 Apache30  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:32:25pm

I couldn't decide if it was cleverly stupid or stupidly clever, so I covered my bets and voted for Ron Paul..:)

642 big L  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:32:48pm

629--wannbuyaduck-- my cousin worked for Exxon and her co-workers referred to EXXON as "the sign of the double-cross...
/heh

643 Paul  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:35:52pm

Does anyone doubt that Lefties are too humorless or too stupid (probably both) to understand satire?

It also seems that they're too stupid to understand the First Amendment (more likely, being Leftists, they detest the First Amendment).

644 Dekar  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:37:33pm

It's definitely Ron Paul

645 big L  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:38:02pm

634- looking closely- as President Oby should not go abroad. He is a target for freee-lance killers or fascists as an apostate muslim. Be better if he'd go back to the name he used in HS and College"-- Barry Soetero.
His name indicts hism and he uses it freely by choice and then tells us all to not mention it. Mark Levin calls him Barack 'Milhous' Obama, because you are a racist if you use the Hussein name.

646 Right Brain  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:47:00pm

I am of the opinion that this was a direct hit on Barack and Michelle Obama by a cartoonist that was a little more clever than his handlers. Like the Danish cartoon of Mohammed's head as a bomb, there is no wiggle room as to the intent; one simply cannot get this new image out of one's head, impossible to imagine that it was done by anything other than a subversive.

647 indythinker  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:52:37pm

Obama's reaction to the New Yorker cover is another example of how thin-skinned he is. He really cannot take a joke at all. He would be very dangerous as Commander-in-Chief. We all know what socialists have done in other countries.

648 Independent Voter123  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:01:41pm

I have not read the article, but I think a guy from the New Yorker said that the story is about how absurd some of the internet rumors are about Obama. The guy was on "Morning Joe," but I could only half listen. Is that in fact the direction the article goes? Has anyone read a summary, or the story itself? I do think MOST people will only see the cover and think the story is a hatchet job.

649 wannabuyaduck  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:10:02pm

re: #648 Independent Voter123

I do think MOST people will only see the cover and think the story is a hatchet job.

That was the connection I was concerned about. While the cover is supposedly "satire," that isn't the case with the article from what I've seen. Off to read it now --

Maybe after all the brouhaha over the cover has died down a bit, it will have the effect of causing more people to take a closer look at the article itself.

650 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:10:10pm

leftist moonbats don't have a funnybone between the whole lot of them.

651 J.S.  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:17:41pm

Advertisers (not to mention cartoonists) have long known about the power of the image ("iconography" in media studies). If you want to get across a concept in the quickest manner possible (and make it stick), you use an image. Words don't matter. I think this "cartoon" carcicature of Obama and his wife in the combat boots is hitting below the belt, but, nevertheless, funny...(It's probably something the Obama people will want to bury and fast..)

652 J.S.  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:22:33pm

Forgot to add -- I also think it's stupid...that's because the New Yorker is obviously pro-Obama...so, to put this on their front cover (given that they are supporters of Obama) is really, really dumb...(as I laugh...)

653 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:23:44pm

might have to go out and buy a copy of the new yorker

654 marjoriemoon  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:28:28pm

re: #634 looking closely

Did you even bother to read what was written above?

By his own admission, Obama was formally schooled as a Muslim for YEARS including Koran study, to the point where he can still (as an adult US Senator) recite the Islamic call to prayer.

How is that "five minutes"?

Its insulting to his (and our) intelligence to think that Obama doesn't remember what happened when he was a kid or that it doesn't make any difference how he was brought up or indoctrinated during his formative years. And how does this admission by him that he was schooled as a Muslim, reconcile with his later claim that he was born a Christian?

Now in fact, NOBODY is claiming with a straight face that Obama guy is a PRACTISING Muslim or some kind of closeted Islamist. Everyone, by this point, knows that Obama is, instead a person who has spent 20+ years practicing whatever flavor of "Afrocentric" Christianity is promulgated in Reverend Wright's Church.

The question, if any, is to what extent Obama's childhood indoctrination affects his current attitudes and beliefs, and why he's felt compelled to dissemble about this.

Yes, I read it. No I couldn't get to your links.

I know some converts, Christianity to Judaism and they don't associate themselves with their old religion. Of course they remember it, but they don't ascribe to it (what I meant by "5 minutes") and still have good memories (Christmas trees, Easter egg hunts and the like). I don't know any Muslim converts, but I would think a lot of people here would be very happy indeed to see Muslims convert to Christianity and surely not condemn them for it nor question their faith.

So if he's not a practising Muslim, then what's the beef? I think you're wrong. I think there are a lot of people who think that Obama is a "secret" or "hidden" Muslim. Ploome obviously does and your post also suggests it. And obviously the New Yorker was commenting on it.

655 Mosse  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:33:00pm

Have a look at the response to the NYer article. [Link: globallabor.blogspot.com...] -- The NYer and the new WAPost article are more main stream fluff.

656 michaelhop  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:48:45pm

Those who mock The Lord, Obama,
Will die by the Islamic sword (comma)
This cartoon may be right on track,
But, of course, it's always racist to make fun of Barack......
The New Yorker artwork of Michelle is really kind of funky
For the first second time in her life, I bet she's proud of her country.

657 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:54:29pm
658 TiamoInfidels  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:09:08pm

The cover keeps Democrats beloved issue of Race rather than pesky things like Energy at the top of the news cycle.

As well, it reinforces the stereotype of how conservatives view Obama and wife for the moonbats.

It also has the added benefit of scaring those freakish people enough to believe this of the “would be” POTUS and his wife, so that they will say absurdly stupid things which can then be held against Conservatives.

Moreover, it could have a few undecided’s thinking that in order to prove this indefensible stereotype wrong they will vote for Obama, thus showing the world that they are not racist islamophobes or warmongers.

How can it be stupid if it serves all purposes?

659 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:13:47pm
660 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:14:58pm

re: #595 songbird

Some clever lizard needs to Photoshop in the Che flag and the $600 earrings.

What else shall be added?

A waffle iron.

661 RayA  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:16:07pm

#654 marjoriemoon

There are converts all over the place, from religion to atheism and in between religions. However, in Islam, such things do not exist, you are either Muslim or you are a dead-former-Muslim. I have been watching many Arabic speaking commentators and I've heard the reference to obama being a Muslim in many occasions. And despite what Obama calls himself, the Muslim world is still calling him a Muslim.

As far as the cartoon goes, as stupid as it may be, I hope that it wakes something in the consciousness of those who will vote for obama. That deep down they are going to vote for a pair of socialist ideologues who have been pushed this far by more powerful socialist ideologues and hidden anti-American agendas. What is worse, he is a candidate that has no qualms in regards to destroying our economy and country to please his occult fan base.

662 quickjustice  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:16:10pm

What's most fascinating about this entire kerfuffle is that the left is cannibalizing itself. The cartoon is a vicious parody of Hillary's claims that Obama is a radical. Why is the New Yorker's continuing to advance Hillary's positions in this manner, and at this time?

I think she's looking for a chance for a comeback.

663 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:26:01pm

re: #660 debutaunt

A waffle iron.

Mmmmmmm...waffles...with butter and maple syrup..*drooling down my shirt*

664 LeePro  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:26:48pm

Well, first I laughed.

Then I remembered a character from the 60s/70s...
Anybody remember Angela Davis? The New Yorker depiction of Michelle is a really close resemblance, don't you think?

And THEN... I saw THIS at the mybarackobama site: Angela Davis mentions Barack Obama in Guardian article

Oh.
My.
God.

665 NemoParticularis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:33:31pm

re: #662 quickjustice

What's most fascinating about this entire kerfuffle is that the left is cannibalizing itself.

Fascinating? Perhaps. Delightful? Absolutely. Can anyone say schadenfreude?

Why is the New Yorker's continuing to advance Hillary's positions in this manner, and at this time?

Because they are in the tank for her. Always have been. You didn't think, for one minute, that the Democratic establishment would actually allow (shudder) a black man to be president, did you?

I think she's looking for a chance for a comeback.

The leopard never changes its spots, nor does the scorpion ever shed its stinger. I suggest you lay in a supply of popcorn. The Democrat Convention in Denver will most definitely be "must see TV."

666 Maine's Michael  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:43:10pm

re: #657 buzzsawmonkey

Excellent.

As far as those of us who are "more conservative" are concerned, I don't see how this "satirizes" our views. It is an attempt to portray genuine concerns in a manner so over the top that raising them as legitimate questions will be seen as somehow illegitimate--but if one does not discuss these aspects of Obama, one is left with nothing more than a hole in the air, because the cover does represent the Obama who sold himself to the left wing of the Democratic Party to grab the nomination.

To criticize the Anointed one is to be racist or judgmental.

I don't think this will carry him across the finish line.

Great speaker that he is, he is also narcissistic and ridiculously ill-informed.

He can't teleprompt his way all the way to November, can he?

667 wannabuyaduck  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:52:18pm

re: #657 buzzsawmonkey

So this "satire" is less a needling of troglodytic right-wingers than it is a proud, public leftist embrace of the very things that make Obama anathema to people who still think that the US is not and should not be the nation Obama wants to metamorphose America into.

Makes me think of that dopey movement among Obamatons to give themselves the middle name "Hussein" to show their solidarity.

668 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:52:21pm
669 Maui Girl  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:59:16pm

I just want the pix on a t-shirt!

670 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:00:57pm
671 MisterCookie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:18:35pm

It turns out there's a very fine line between stupid and clever - Harry Shearer as Derek Smalls of Spinal Tap

672 Obsidiandog  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:24:19pm

Doesn't anybody remember several weeks ago when FOX's E.D. Hill described a video of the Obamas fist bumping as them "doing the terrorist fist-bump"? That's what this cover is all about. All the misconceptions, rumors, email slurs from the Clintons, etc are being lampooned in a very funny and clever way. Obama's campaign is screaming bloody murder not because they are offended by the cover, but that they don't want anybody to read the accompanying article which isn't very flattering to the Obamassiah.

673 laparka2  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:27:13pm

I see this ending up being explained away by someone "In The Know" as a Double Edged Sword....

"Don't you see? Intelligent people will see it as it was meant; a satire on what those Knuckle-dragging Conservatives think of Obama. And the Conservatives will look at it and say "Yep, that there is Obama awright, HEE-YUK!" and thus show their True Colors.

If you don't get the Joke, guess we know what side you're on..."

And frankly, I'm glad McCain did say something. Or you know tomorrow's headline would have said "McCain silently agrees with New Yorker Cartoon."

674 Tilly  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:53:14pm

OMG the moonbats at Kos are going around the bend about this...

We now have moonbat implosion Monday....hahaha

Personally the more I look at it the more it rings true. I especially like the arugula on the mantle. We do need the photo shop like someone earlier suggested of the 600 dollar earrings and she needs that 500 dollar Suzi Rohr belt she had on. And lets not forget the 250 grand pearls (if that necklace is real she had on with the pink outfit)...

I think i am going to frame this and put it on the wall with the rest of my political cartoon collection...

675 marjoriemoon  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 4:25:00pm

re: #671 MisterCookie

It turns out there's a very fine line between stupid and clever - Harry Shearer as Derek Smalls of Spinal Tap

You get an upding because I've never heard anyone quote Derek Smalls before!

676 kahall  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 4:44:12pm

I am not going to read all 650+ comments here, but man I am going to enjoy reading all 2,468 at koskiddies site. It is so much fun reading about how they are going to cancel their subscriptions to a shitty magazine. The cover is just silly and I did not see it as satire when I first saw it but TOO BAD you left wing loons. LOL!

677 jaunte  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 4:45:15pm

Driving home today, listening briefly to NPR interview with New Yorker editor David Remnick, who was disgusted with the idea that he had to go out and "explain the joke." You could actually hear the backwash coming off of his airquotes as he said it.
Remnick explained that publishing the cover was necessary, as long as there's this 'nonsense' floating around out there about Barack Obama. He didn't go into exactly what was nonsense, and what might be legitimate misgivings. The interviewer let the opportunity pass without comment.

678 marjoriemoon  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 5:31:52pm

re: #661 RayA

#654 marjoriemoon

There are converts all over the place, from religion to atheism and in between religions. However, in Islam, such things do not exist, you are either Muslim or you are a dead-former-Muslim. I have been watching many Arabic speaking commentators and I've heard the reference to obama being a Muslim in many occasions. And despite what Obama calls himself, the Muslim world is still calling him a Muslim.

You're not making a distinction between N. American Muslims (U.S. and Canada) and Eastern living Muslims, Mid East, Africa, the Arab world, even in Europe and that's a mistake. You can leave Islam in the U.S. without fear. In fact, many U.S. Muslims are not religious, just as many Christians and Jews aren't religious. So things are different here. And I suspect why most came to N. America in the first place.

I also don't put a lot of stock in news commentators. Particularly TV news and even more particularly "Muslim world" news with regard to us. So they have little influence on me. I find the net more reliable, less hype.

There are plenty of things that concern me about Obama. His associations, his time in the Church, his true feelings on Israel. He's no messiah, but also he's no devil and he ain't no Muslim.

As to the NYer, I guess it's perception, but as I see it, it's a liberal paper. It would be silly for them to be advocating the perceived worst parts of their candidate. I accept their explanation, a parody on rightwing commentary. Like I say, I think it was offensive, but I also giggled. Like watching Southpark.

679 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 5:32:37pm
680 Biff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 5:38:00pm

One more thing about the cover:

Notice that Obama's left foot is placed directly on the American Eagle's neck (on the Oval Office rug.)

681 Biff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 5:40:38pm

Portrait over the fireplace:
The cartoonist is too good to not be able to accurately draw OBL. So, who is it?

682 Lorenzo  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 5:53:29pm

I spend a lot of time on the internet and am inundated daily with an amazing volume of the most scurrilous lies and distortions about the Obamas. Either it's from those who can't countenance a Black man in the White House, or from those who think they are helping elect John McCain. With one stroke of the pen, the New Yorker's satirical cover has exposed this element to the ridicule it so richly deserves.

683 Biff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 5:56:30pm

re: #682 Lorenzo

Gaze at the bait. d/s

684 AbeReason  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 6:00:05pm

Obama and Michelle set themselves up for this political cartoon. Virtually everything in it is based on their own words, actions and inactions and longstanding associations, including associations with people they've "thrown under the bus" in the past few months. So, this is a landmark political satire cartoon.

685 SamMan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 6:09:44pm

I have a hunch the Clintons had something to do with this cover.

686 nyc redneck  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 6:41:59pm

i laughed. i love it.
but the new yorker may have gone beyond the pale w/ this attempt at satire.
many people will take it at face value because there is an element of truth to it.
this is not good for b.o.
lol

687 rastajenk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 7:06:31pm

Thanks for the chance to vote for RonPaul again. That was an inspired insertion into the poll.

688 DoubleU  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 7:42:15pm

How soon before Michelle ask for reparations?

689 J.S.  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 9:47:55pm

hmmmm....just heard that CTV is reporting that the "cartoonist" is a Canadian (or at least someone who was born in Canada...) I think that pretty much figures...

690 minuteman  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:02:10pm

Fatwa complaint against a cartoon isn't playing to the type depicted in the cartoon at all. Nope. Its the rubes in flyover country who are the fools.

691 wiffersnapper  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 10:32:42pm

Ron Paul! bahahahaha...

692 Jetziger  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:12:46am

Great cover! I'm sure it will guarantee the NY Jewish vote for Barack Hussein Al-Qaeda Arafat Obama.

Chillingly true: the enemies of America get to kill two birds with one stone. Radical Left and radical Islam in simultaneous occupation of the White House.

693 RedSoxNation  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:28:43am

While I thought the picture was funny, I really laughed when I saw the choice for Ron Paul. I assume that this was the "conspiracy" choice with the term "Ron Paul" meaning nut-wing conspiracy...ha ha

694 RedSoxNation  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:30:41am

Doesn't the picture of Obama resemble the picture put out by the Clintons. If so, how does that constitute a parody of what the Republicans are saying.

695 hans ze beeman  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 1:32:25pm

I voted Ron Paul, although the his blimp of doom is not in the picture.

696 trulyyours  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:34:07pm

re: #685 SamMan

I have a hunch the Clintons had something to do with this cover.

Couldn't agree more - it was that or intelligent design....just joking.


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