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Ahmadinejad Headed to New York Again

Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:30:52 pm PDT

At Drudge:

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on state television that he would again go to New York to attend this year’s United Nations General Assembly session. It will be Ahmadinejad’s third trip to New York since his presidency in August 2005.

Well, there’s an opportunity for Barack Obama to have his first sit-down chat with Mahmoud. Wonder if Obama’s people are discussing the logistics yet with Mahmoud’s people?

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1 Consumer  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:32:41pm

Since we didn't get enough of him before...

2 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:32:47pm
3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:32:56pm

Another chance for his plane to mysteriously disappear from radar over the North Atlantic.

4 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:33:11pm

An opportunity to throw the M.F. to the sharks.....
Along with Hugo........

5 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:33:14pm

He better stay away from the WTC...

6 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:33:52pm

re: #2 buzzsawmonkey
Nope, obambi just has to bring the vaseline.

7 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:33:53pm

Is Chavez coming too?

8 blangwort  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:34:05pm

I wonder if Dinner Jacket likes waffles?

9 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:34:15pm

re: #5 experiencedtraveller

He better stay away from the WTC...


He didn't get near it last time. Doubtful he ever will.

10 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:34:48pm
Well, there’s an opportunity for Barack Obama to have his first sit-down chat with Mahmoud. Wonder if Obama’s people are discussing the logistics yet with Mahmoud’s people?

At which forum was it that BHO recently refused to debate Sen. McCain?

11 gibsonz  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:34:50pm

Does the little twerp stand on a stool behind the podium ?

12 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:35:22pm
13 dachew  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:35:23pm

Well, I certainly am glad he's coming back. He'll have a chance to give the second part of his Columbia University speech. There are just so many unanswered questions from part one.

14 MJ  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:35:35pm

Another reason to kick the UN out of the US.

15 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:35:41pm

Oh for a CBP officer who is willing to read the regulations and just say "No."

16 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:36:05pm

And will Columbia once again welcome him with open arms? Or will that come from NYU?

17 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:36:29pm

might get me deleted but .............
Anywhere out to 500 yards and calm winds
and my mind starts wander................./:)

18 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:37:05pm

re: #10 MandyManners

That sentence is more awkward than a prepubescent boy at Victoria's Secret with his mom.

19 filetandrelease  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:37:13pm

We should plaster that picture, the one with all the missiles flying every which way, all through the U.N. Perhaps on a bill board or two, all just for Dinnerjacket.

20 gibsonz  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:37:28pm

Maybe Bloomberg will have him arrested for smoking in public!

21 dainn  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:37:38pm

I think Barack should look into getting a speaking invitation. They give those out to heads-of-state, and he already is acting like one.

Maybe he can introduce Aquavelvajad.

22 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:37:39pm

re: #16 lawhawk

And will Columbia once again welcome him with open arms? Or will that come from NYU?


he can always skip over to The New York Times in his little blue nuclear booties and have arugala sandwiches with Obambi..

23 Pianobuff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:37:41pm

Can anybody help me on this?

I've been reading that this page....[Link: origin.barackobama.com...] has been revamped quite recently.

Are there techniques for getting the old version so I can compare content and grap the version dates of the page?

Any pointers on going about this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

24 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:37:55pm

re: #11 gibsonz

Does the little twerp stand on a stool behind the podium ?

Like this one?

25 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:38:09pm

Will there be preconditions or preparations?

26 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:38:53pm
27 Paul  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:38:58pm

Ahmadinejad wants another bite of the Big Apple (he doesn't mind the maggots).

28 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:39:22pm

Have you seen Cloverfield? It's my favorite movie.

29 gibsonz  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:39:44pm

re: #24 MandyManners

roflmao - great find.

30 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:40:10pm

Obama Staffer: Doesn't that guy know - IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID!

31 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:41:25pm

re: #24 MandyManners

Like this one?

What? He's my tailor. You know, pinning my hems.

32 opnion  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:41:27pm

I RFeally doubt that Obama will meet with him during the campaign.
It would kind of screw up his play for the center.
After the election though, probably the Lincoln bedroom.

33 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:41:44pm

The UN.

Because "The United Dictators enslaving the people of their Nations ---oh, and a few free countries whose votes are always in the minority" is to hard to get on the sign.

34 mean Gene  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:41:59pm

He likes to come to NY.
He can see ladies' arms, legs, faces, oooooh, and ultra-sexy hair.

35 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:42:21pm

I hear Elliot Spitzer has some free time. Maybe the ex-governor can take him to a few clubs.

I wonder about Iranian strip joints. How do the dancers hold onto the pole in a burkha?

36 Cygnus  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:42:34pm

re: #24 MandyManners

Like this one?

I was thinking of one under a noose.

37 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:42:36pm

re: #10 MandyManners

At which forum was it that BHO recently refused to debate Sen. McCain?


* * *

Military forum. But he's refused all 10 dates offered to debate a fellow American.

38 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:42:44pm

re: #32 opnion

I RFeally doubt that Obama will meet with him during the campaign.
It would kind of screw up his play for the center.
After the election though, probably the Lincoln bedroom.

Hmmm. Now that you mention it, I think it would be a very good meeting place. Mmmmm.

39 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:42:49pm

re: #34 mean Gene

Like facial hair and uni-brows?

40 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:42:56pm

re: #34 mean Gene

He likes to come to NY.
He can see ladies' arms, legs, faces, oooooh, and ultra-sexy hair.

Would that be the sex ray hair that drives men insane?

41 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:43:00pm

re: #35 calcajun

The poles are covered too.

42 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:43:21pm

Gah. Gotta' run. I was looking forward to a fun, mocking thread to take the bitter taste left over from the previous. bbl

43 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:43:27pm

re: #35 calcajun

I hear Elliot Spitzer has some free time. Maybe the ex-governor can take him to a few clubs.

I wonder about Iranian strip joints. How do the dancers hold onto the pole in a burkha?

Easy. They are chained to it.

44 Sir Napsalot  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:43:37pm

Great, he had prior engagements and couldn't be bothered to talk to our military (Ft. Hood) any time.

But he will 'chat' with Ahmad.

45 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:43:38pm

re: #41 NoSubmission

Cover pole=tent. Now, where's the fun in that?

46 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:43:46pm

Perhaps we can make sure his NYC hotel in somewhere beneath a crane.

47 Sir Napsalot  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:44:18pm

Which begs the question:

Whose Halo will be shiny-er?

48 Cygnus  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:44:22pm

re: #27 Paul

Ahmadinejad wants another bite of the Big Apple (he doesn't mind the maggots).

He should feel right at home with the maggots.

49 shane  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:44:57pm

I'm sure Aquavelvetjad will tell Obama what he is supposed to do.

50 opnion  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:45:27pm

re: #46 jill e

Perhaps we can make sure his NYC hotel in somewhere beneath a crane.

Is he bringing his hot burqua babe wife? That nose, that nose!

51 Diamond Bullet  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:45:48pm

At this rate, he's about to get tenure at Columbia.

52 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:45:54pm

Won't Obambi be be stumpin' in Gaza by the time Dinnerjackass arrives in our fair city?

53 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:45:56pm

You know, with all the photoshop-ing going on in the Iranian press, look for some of NYC's landmarks to become the newest Iranian public works projects.

54 MJ  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:45:58pm

Will Ahmadinejad be bringing his wife along? Will she get to ride in the cabin or be thrown in with the rest of the luggage?

55 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:46:23pm

re: #32 opnion

I RFeally doubt that Obama will meet with him during the campaign.
It would kind of screw up his play for the center.
After the election though, probably the Lincoln bedroom.

I hope he doesn't want to watch TV. Obama already is redecorating the White House in his head.

And so, I suppose, they often talk of having (the White House). They look upon it quite as their own, I dare say, whenever that happens."

"It was a subject which they could not mention before me."

"No. It would have been strange if they had. But I make no doubt, they often talk of it between themselves. Well, if they can be easy with an estate that is not lawfully their own, so much the better. I should be ashamed of having one that was only entailed on me."

56 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:46:25pm

Remember when John Kerry said he dined with many foreign heads of state in NYC restaurants? Kerry took global polls and got his "World Can't Wait" responses.

Betcha Iran's prez will meet the same folks.

57 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:46:33pm

re: #54 MJ

Well, she's already in a bag.

58 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:46:37pm

re: #50 opnion

Is he bringing his hot burqua babe wife? That nose, that nose!


I would love it if Dinnerjacket's wife came here, defected and went completely wild?

59 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:46:54pm

Obama and Ahmadinejad can get together and compare auras! Maybe swap Mahdi stories?

60 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:47:15pm

re: #54 MJ

Will Ahmadinejad be bringing his wife along? Will she get to ride in the cabin or be thrown in with the rest of the luggage baggage ?

/fixed that for ya'

61 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:47:15pm

His third trip to N.Y.City?
Three's the charm!
Small international incident needed in 1....2....3........

62 Jeffrey Nihart  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:47:26pm

Someone needs to explain to armedinnerjacket what neutron bombs do, and who has em.
Perhaps a small demo needs to done on his only oil refinery.

Jeffrey Nihart

63 gibsonz  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:47:27pm

If Ahmadinejad and Obama do meet, they have so much in common it would probably be like a family reunion...pen pals for life.

64 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:47:33pm

OT; I gotta ask, what is with lurkers going to dead threads, or almost dead and dinging down comments? Plus some of these 'dingers' never post. WTF?

65 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:47:50pm

re: #57 calcajun

GMTA!

66 nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:48:23pm

re: #56 alegrias

Remember when John Kerry said he dined with many foreign heads of state in NYC restaurants? Kerry took global polls and got his "World Can't Wait" responses.

Betcha Iran's prez will meet the same folks.

I remember that quote. It was one of many that helped Bush get re-elected. We can only hope Obama will be as generous.

67 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:48:25pm

re: #63 gibsonz

If Ahmadinejad and Obama do meet, they have so much in common it would probably be like a family reunion...pen pals for life.

They both hate neckties, and American flags. Common ground!

68 baxtrice  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:48:27pm

He's here to pick up Photoshop CS3 from Obama, the reason the missile fauxtography didn't go over very well is because he was using Photoshop CS2.

69 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:48:28pm

Hope the security is equal to that given the US President when visiting New York State. Of course the US President I am thinking of is William McKinley.

-S-

70 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:48:32pm

re: #54 MJ

Will Ahmadinejad be bringing his wife along? Will she get to ride in the cabin or be thrown in with the rest of the luggage?

Is great thing about Islamic women...already in bag, ready to go in short time. Also saves money to check bag instead of buy seat.

71 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:48:47pm

re: #58 NoSubmission

Now, more fun with photoshop opportunities. Imagine him in a hot-tub. Or, perhaps on a fur rug (yes, he probably has on growing on his back).

Just getting him wasted at a karaoke bar would be fun to see.

72 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:48:47pm

re: #64 pingjockey

It's the LGF equivalent of naughty school children thumbing their noses when the teacher's back is turned.

73 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:49:40pm
74 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:49:46pm

I've seen this movie before. Ah yes... and there's a striking similarity too.

75 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:49:57pm

Europe let Robert Mugabe the murdering thug attend the obscene UN Food Crisis meetings in Rome recently.

Had they been mensches who cared about humankind, they would have citizen arrested Mugabe & his ticks.

[Ironically, today's Bastille Day, commemorating the overthrow of tyrants who said "Let them eat cake".]

76 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:50:24pm
77 red satellite  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:50:36pm
It will be Ahmadinejad’s third trip to New York...

Can't get enough of that immoral Western civilization.

78 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:50:51pm

re: #65 jamgarr

Well, all she needs is some casters and a pull out handle and she would be ready to carry on.

79 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:50:54pm

re: #64 pingjockey

OT; I gotta ask, what is with lurkers going to dead threads, or almost dead and dinging down comments? Plus some of these 'dingers' never post. WTF?

No cohones.
A sense of power.
When a regular practice, akin to masturbation

80 blangwort  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:51:01pm

re: #34 mean Gene

He likes to come to NY.
He can see ladies' arms, legs, faces, oooooh, and ultra-sexy hair.

I think the US ought to nominate a woman with a very classy, sexy look to be ambassador to the UN. Regardless of what other qualifications she may have, she will leave the Islamic states speechless. Think of how much hate and discontent she could stop by just sitting there in a low cut blouse and smiling.

Anything they say would be wrong...

81 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:51:22pm

re: #72 Kenneth
Ah. Went to go look at the last ID thread and a poster had asked about that. Kind of cowardly.
On topic, maybe I'magonna Jihad, Hugo(sulphur boy) Chavez and the Obambi can get together and solve all the worlds problems. Wouldn't that be nice./////////////////////////

82 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:51:25pm

re: #78 calcajun

Well, all she needs is some casters and a pull out handle and she would be ready to carry on.

I don't think she'd fit in the overhead compartment.

83 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:51:34pm

re: #73 taxfreekiller

There's always a segment of people in this country who will fall for this kind of nonsense. Remember, they held pro Nazi rallies at Madison Square Garden in 1939.

84 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:51:38pm
85 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:52:07pm

re: #82 jamgarr

She can fold. Tuck the knees into the armpits and she's ready to go.

86 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:52:10pm

re: #76 taxfreekiller
thanks tfk.

87 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:52:24pm

re: #84 buzzsawmonkey

You need a custom New York tailor to get a really good leisure suit.

He's meeting with the "Queer Eye for the Short Guy" team as soon as he arrives.

88 IgofAntioch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:52:40pm

Why don't barak and mahmoud meet at Columbia University and talk about the lack of gays is Iran? That should prove interesting.

89 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:53:26pm

re: #18 MandyManners

That sentence is more awkward than a prepubescent boy at Victoria's Secret with his mom.

Perfect. Just perfect. You will have to pardon me if I use that line sometime.

90 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:53:30pm

"We have just got to trim this twelve-day shadow, Ahmy!"

91 nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:53:54pm

re: #75 alegrias

Europe let Robert Mugabe the murdering thug attend the obscene UN Food Crisis meetings in Rome recently.

Had they been mensches who cared about humankind, they would have citizen arrested Mugabe & his ticks.

[Ironically, today's Bastille Day, commemorating the overthrow of tyrants who said "Let them eat cake".]

Well whether they actually said that is a topic for another day, but it seems these 2 morons had a happy Bastille day!

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

92 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:53:55pm

re: #80 blangwort

* * *
Why are you advocating more "soft" power!

I want Maggie Thatcher swinging-a-pearl-necklace-power:

"Don't go Wobbly!"

93 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:53:57pm

re: #87 OldLineTexan
"Cept you can't get leisure suits in polyester anymore. After the '70s, the polyester was put on the endangered species list.

94 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:54:02pm
95 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:54:02pm
96 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:54:09pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Another chance for his plane to mysteriously disappear from radar over the North Atlantic.


Sometimes planes just explode in midair. Remember TWA 800? No bomb, no missile, just boom.

97 MJ  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:54:24pm

re: #88 IgofAntioch

Why don't barak and mahmoud meet at Columbia University and talk about the lack of gays is Iran? That should prove interesting.

There are no gays in Iran.

98 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:54:27pm

Vertical stripes! Vertical stripes!

99 gibsonz  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:54:28pm

Amazing...how insecure does a man have to be to keep his woman in a bag?

100 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:54:58pm
101 Friend of USA  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:55:00pm

You all realize his coming to the USA is only to show the world ( mostly the Muslim world ) how submissive the western world is to him a "powerful" Muslim?

The peasant can not visit the king's palace as he pleases, but the king can enter the peasant's home whenever he feels like it and he can leave whenever he feels like it.

The peasant can not refuse to let the king in and has no power to hold him captive.

Am I the only one who sees this ?

102 Opinionated  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:55:04pm

If he is looking for where to stay, I hear Charlie Rangel has four apartments.

103 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:55:20pm
104 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:55:25pm

I was about to make a remark about Sparks Steakhouse, but I won't.

105 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:55:44pm

Dinnerjacket doesn't have to bring the wife. The women are not individuals, so one is very like another. He could just fold up a burka, bring it here, put it over just about anyone, and, voila, it's his wife!

106 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:55:57pm
107 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:55:59pm

re: #95 buzzsawmonkey

There's a "Short Eyes* for the Queer Guy" joke in there somewhere.

_______________
*"short eyes" is, or was, prison slang for a child molester.

I wouldn't leave my camel or goat around him, so I sure as hell wouldn't let him babysit. He's got a gleam in his eye that really screams for trouser legs taped to his knees and an easy-flash raincoat.

108 nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:56:04pm

re: #99 gibsonz

Amazing...how insecure does a man have to be to keep his woman in a bag?

Well unless she's a rubber blow up one you mean?

109 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:56:17pm

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

She's so much sacks-ier that way.

Unworthy of you. Trying too hard.

/and, of course, I NEVER do that

110 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:56:19pm

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

She's so much sacks-ier that way.


"Bagging a babe" is a multi-cultural term with varied meaning.

111 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:56:33pm

re: #106 buzzsawmonkey

Rangel's living quarters are sort of like a cow's stomach.


The mad midget can stay at Councilman Charles Barron's place...

112 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:56:36pm

re: #83 lawhawk

People think that WWII was this great event where the entire country rallied behind FDR and the government. Nope. The Bundists were still active after 12/9/1941--but very quiet.

Also, there was as much rancor in the press then about the prosecution of the war and what was being done as there is now. A lot of people wondered why in the name of hell were we landing in North Africa in 11/1942 when the real fight was in Europe. Many bitched about being in Europe at all when it was the Japanese who attacked the US.

Basically, not a lot is new. The only difference is that GWB is no where near as flamboyant a leader as FDR was.

113 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:56:43pm

re: #64 pingjockey

OT; I gotta ask, what is with lurkers going to dead threads, or almost dead and dinging down comments? Plus some of these 'dingers' never post. WTF?

These are people who are obviously very strong and secure in their positions.

not.

114 gibsonz  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:57:07pm

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

She's so much sacks-ier that way.
-------
you`re killing me Buzz...I guess it does leave a lot to the imagination!

115 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:57:09pm

re: #90 OldLineTexan

But, i just shaved my back before I left Tehran.

116 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:57:21pm

Perhaps he'll be caught in the crossfire during a bloody shootout between Ray's Original Famous Pizza and Ray's Famous Original Pizza.

117 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:57:51pm

re: #99 gibsonz

Amazing...how insecure does a man have to be to keep his woman in a bag?

She buys her clothes at Sacks Fith Avenue.

118 itellu3times  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:58:01pm

He's trying out for Chorus Line, again?

119 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:58:02pm

re: #115 calcajun

But, i just shaved my back before I left Tehran.

"Don't worry, sweetums...we have a whole barrel of Nair back at the bathhouse."

120 Da_Beerfreak  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:58:11pm

re: #88 IgofAntioch

Why don't barak and mahmoud meet at Columbia University and talk about the lack of gays is Iran? That should prove interesting.

Or how about how the average Iranian clings to their korans, AK47s and their xenophobic distrust of Infidels.

121 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:58:23pm
122 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:58:23pm

re: #113 reine.de.tout
Hahahaha! Just struck me as odd. Why ding somebody down if you aren't going to engage them in a debate about why you disagree?

123 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:58:43pm

re: #105 Silhouette

You mean it would be something like "Mahmood and the Real Girl". All he would need is an inflatable doll.

124 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:58:57pm
125 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:59:03pm

So where do we go to protest this unwelcome pest? Terminix? Orkin Man?

126 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:59:46pm
127 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:59:49pm

re: #121 buzzsawmonkey

You're really bagging for it, aren't you?

Her investment bankers - Goldman Sacks - will then give her a guided tour of the Bourse.

128 bosforus  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 12:59:50pm

re: #125 alegrias

So where do we go to protest this unwelcome pest? Terminix? Orkin Man?

Voting booth.

129 filetandrelease  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:00:00pm

re: #17 reloadingisnotahobby


Anywhere out to 500 yards and calm winds
and my mind starts wander................./:)

I'm guessin' you ain't talkin' about boatin' and fishin'.

130 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:00:22pm

re: #125 alegrias

Since Abe Vigoda is alive, I say we let Tessio handle security for this meeting.

131 Cygnus  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:00:26pm

re: #71 calcajun

Now, more fun with photoshop opportunities. Imagine him in a hot-tub. Or, perhaps on a fur rug (yes, he probably has on growing on his back).

Just getting him wasted at a karaoke bar would be fun to see.

And doing a duet with Ted Kennedy. In Spanish.

132 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:00:26pm

Just keep that terrifying "Mr. Mephistopheles" away from me.

133 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:00:27pm

Hugo and Mahmooood are are P.O.S's....
But the U.N. General assembly gave them standing ovations
After talking shit all over our nation!

U.N. out of the U.S.A.!

134 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:00:32pm

Did you all see today where Iran protested McCain's (joking) statement that perhaps high US cigarette sales to Iran were another way to ...shorten life expectancies?

135 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:01:41pm
136 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:01:42pm

re: #121 buzzsawmonkey

You're really bagging for it, aren't you?

I'm TRRRRYing to come up with a pun about the old sack dresses.

/shoot me before I do

137 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:01:46pm

re: #134 alegrias

Depends on what Phillip Morris and RJR spike 'em with.

138 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:02:19pm

re: #129 filetandrelease
Ah....Nope!
More like 6.5x284..........

139 RememberSekhmet?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:02:24pm

It just gets more and more interesting.

140 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:02:25pm
141 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:02:32pm

re: #117 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, good, we're past 100...

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

142 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:02:50pm

re: #87 OldLineTexan

He's meeting with the "Queer Eye for the Short Guy" team as soon as he arrives.

Seriously....where are all the gays? They should be out front protesting this creep's arrival! If he had his way, they'd all be tortured and then beheaded.

143 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:02:53pm

re: #136 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If you two don't stop it with the fashion puns, we're just going to have to show you the Dior.

144 JetBoyTerp  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:06pm

A lot can happen from now until then...

145 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:08pm

re: #104 Occasional Reader

Paul Castellano.

146 Opinionated  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:10pm

re: #125 alegrias

So where do we go to protest this unwelcome pest?

Boy's department at Syms

147 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:14pm

re: #141 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, good, we're past 100...

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]

ARRRRGGGHHH!

148 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:15pm

re: #134 alegrias

Did you all see today where Iran protested McCain's (joking) statement that perhaps high US cigarette sales to Iran were another way to ...shorten life expectancies?


Iran denounces McCain's remarks about cigarettes [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

"...TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's Foreign Ministry has condemned remarks by Republican presidential candidate John McCain that exporting cigarettes could be a way of killing Iranians.

The state-owned English language IRAN daily has quoted ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini denouncing the remarks as "inappropriate" and describing McCain's attitude as "regretful."

149 Last Mohican  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:27pm

re: #87 OldLineTexan

He's meeting with the "Queer Eye for the Short Guy" team as soon as he arrives.

Ah, so THAT's why he's coming to New York! To get a Queer Eye makeover! Obviously he can't get one in Iran -- no homosexuals there.

150 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:33pm

re: #143 calcajun

If you two don't stop it with the fashion puns, we're just going to have to show you the Dior.

*BARF*

151 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:40pm

Will Dinnerjacket see an especially bright golden glow around Obama?

152 ROPMA  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:41pm

Just drop him off on the sidewalk in front of ground zero without any security. He would be as welcome as an infidel in mecca.

153 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:03:46pm

re: #144 JetBoyTerp

A lot can happen from now until then...


In fact, most of it will.

154 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:04:02pm

re: #142 jill e
Just like NOW, the silence from the gay rights movement is deafening when it comes to Islamic theocracies.

155 Dianna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:04:03pm

re: #141 goddessoftheclassroom

I love that one!

156 Andopolis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:04:17pm

He just wants to come get a fist-bump from Obama.

157 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:04:55pm
158 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:05:00pm

re: #62 Jeffrey Nihart

That's dangerously close to a no-no there, Jeffrey.

159 MajorPribluda  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:05:06pm

re: #148 alegrias


The state-owned English language IRAN daily has quoted ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini denouncing the remarks as "inappropriate" and describing McCain's attitude as "regretful."

Of course, what they meant to say was "regrettable". He didn't sound "regretful" at the time.

160 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:05:10pm

re: #144 JetBoyTerp

A lot can happen from now until then...

If I could predict the future, I'd be in a different line of work. Look to the sky, little guy.

161 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:05:24pm

If he does meet with BHO, whose halo will shine brightest?

162 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:05:43pm

re: #151 Ojoe
Nope, a green fog from the over powering smell of bs that obambi has been flining around.

163 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:05:53pm

re: #141 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, good, we're past 100...

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]

ROFLMAO

Fortunately, I have taken to keeping a lower-back brace hanging beside the computer ... y'know, the kind warehousemen wear? I works wonders for muscular and rib damage.

164 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:06:07pm

re: #145 lawhawk

Just remember to take the cannoli.

165 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:06:24pm

addendum to #148

Iran wants a CHANGE!

"...Last week, McCain was asked about an Associated Press report that the U.S. exported $158 million worth of cigarettes to Iran during the Bush administration in spite of restrictions on U.S. imports.

"Maybe that's a way of killing them," McCain said. He then said that he was joking.

Iran has officially announced that it supports neither U.S. presidential campaign but does hope the election will bring a change in U.S. foreign policy.

166 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:06:31pm

re: #164 Occasional Reader
And leave the gun.

167 Andopolis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:07:03pm

re: #151 Ojoe

Will Dinnerjacket see an especially bright golden glow around Obama?

Everybody sing... Hosanna, Obama, bama bama O, bama hey, bama ho, bama...

168 wolfie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:07:18pm

re: #112 calcajun

You're right that we weren't as wonderfully united during WWII as we often like to believe, but I think things are MUCH worse now.

I think television changed a lot, for one thing. It's such a great medium for touchy-feely propaganda.

And the MSM during the Vietnam war was united .........against the USA. Hanoi Janes were celebrated instead of prosecuted.
Thousands marched in front of the TV cameras waving North Vietnamese flags.

Most of the MSM today and many Democrats actually root for us to fail in Iraq.

169 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:08:09pm
170 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:08:25pm

And when not at the U.N. client #10 will be avoiding calls from Elliot Sptizer.

171 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:08:46pm

Am I the first to chime in with a "malignant dwarf" comment?

172 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:08:47pm

re: #169 taxfreekiller
Or the pic of them hanging the two young men from cranes.

173 Cygnus  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:09:01pm

re: #143 calcajun

If you two don't stop it with the fashion puns, we're just going to have to show you the Dior.

This week on Project Bagway...

174 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:09:07pm

re: #171 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Yep.

175 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:09:41pm

re: #167 Andopolis

That ends in

"Hey Hey, Goodby,"

doesn't it?

176 winston06  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:09:51pm

Jail Dinnerjacket, ship him to Gitmo.

177 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:10:14pm

re: #172 pingjockey

Or the pic of them hanging the two young men from cranes.

Which photo? There are LOTS of those.

178 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:10:14pm

re: #172 pingjockey

Or the pic of them hanging the two young men from cranes.

I thought it was seven at a time.

179 kansas  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:10:18pm

re: #10 MandyManners

At which forum was it that BHO recently refused to debate Sen. McCain?

We're not talking debate here, are we?

180 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:10:33pm
181 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:10:47pm

re: #143 calcajun

If you two don't stop it with the fashion puns, we're just going to have to show you the Dior.

Armani of those puns offending you? Well, you can always change the Chanel.

182 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:11:11pm

re: #180 taxfreekiller

Plus tactical genius

183 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:11:14pm
184 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:11:20pm

re: #181 Occasional Reader

Armani of those puns offending you? Well, you can always change the Chanel.

*DOUBLE BARF*

185 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:11:45pm

re: #154 pingjockey

Just like NOW, the silence from the gay rights movement is deafening when it comes to Islamic theocracies.

NOW thinks all men are amoebas on fleas on rats, UNLESS they're cute, little, hairy Islamofascists!

186 gibsonz  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:11:45pm

re: #168 wolfie

It's such a great medium for touchy-feely propaganda.
--------
Most shows are nothing more than agenda driven drivel...when something like the Sopranos come along people flock to it because it seems realistic compared to most tripe they are being spoon fed by the media.

187 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:11:52pm

re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #178 Silhouette

Don't know. Pick one. They showed them hanging two guys in the middle of a town from construction cranes for being gay. I guess it is okay to molest little girls though. Mo did.

188 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:12:03pm
189 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:12:11pm
190 Last Mohican  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:12:37pm

Hey, guess who just released a new CD and is currently touring America with his band.

Coincidence? I don't think so.

191 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:12:43pm

re: #183 taxfreekiller
Git er done!

192 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:13:14pm

re: #165 alegrias

addendum to #148

Iran wants a CHANGE!

"...Last week, McCain was asked about an Associated Press report that the U.S. exported $158 million worth of cigarettes to Iran during the Bush administration in spite of restrictions on U.S. imports.

"Maybe that's a way of killing them," McCain said. He then said that he was joking.

Iran has officially announced that it supports neither U.S. presidential campaign but does hope the election will bring a change in U.S. foreign policy.

We can do that! Fifty Multiple Independently targeted Reentry Vehicles with 5 megatons each should result in a noticeable change. One SSBN can do this job and then head for a nice bout of R&R.

193 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:13:47pm

re: #143 calcajun

If you two don't stop it with the fashion puns, we're just going to have to show you the Dior.

Do want me to change the Chanel...?

194 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:13:55pm

re: #181 Occasional Reader

Armani of those puns offending you? Well, you can always change the Chanel.

* * *
In Obama's case, the Ermenegildo Zegna! Pun that, Senyor Ocasional!

195 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:14:04pm
196 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:14:12pm
197 gibsonz  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:14:26pm

re: #189 taxfreekiller

Unwanted guests seldom leave on their own.

198 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:14:31pm

re: #173 Cygnus

The problem with the burkha is that it gives her this "hefty" look and she's just not "glad" to be in one.

199 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:14:38pm

re: #192 lifeofthemind
Nah, way too much. That'll throw rubble all the way to Damascus.

200 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:14:56pm

re: #194 alegrias

* * *
In Obama's case, the Ermenegildo Zegna! Pun that, Senyor Ocasional!

"Ermenegildo Zegna, I'll be gettin' in a taxi, honey..."

(old "Mary Tyler Moore Show" reference)

201 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:15:12pm

Will there be a protest of his attendance?

202 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:15:13pm

re: #194 alegrias

* * *
In Obama's case, the Ermenegildo Zegna! Pun that, Senyor Ocasional!

Zegna makes nice neckties. The only kind dinnerjacket needs comes from Columbia though.

203 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:15:26pm

re: #190 Last Mohican

"You're sixteen...You're beautiful....And you're mine!

204 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:15:32pm

re: #187 pingjockey

re: #178 Silhouette

Don't know. Pick one. They showed them hanging two guys in the middle of a town from construction cranes for being gay. I guess it is okay to molest little girls though. Mo did.

Yeah. I quit looking at those photos sometime late last year. Too frustrating. Makes me think of napalm coming in through the windows of an Expediency Council or Guardians Council meeting.

205 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:15:37pm
Will there be a protest of his attendance?

Something to make the G8 protests look tame, I would hope!

206 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:15:41pm

re: #195 taxfreekiller
Right there, "coward money whores", says it all.

207 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:15:43pm

re: #193 goddessoftheclassroom

Do want me to change the Chanel...?

Sorry, I didn't see the previous use of this one.

I'm sorry my contribution wasn't Worth much...

208 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:15:58pm

re: #199 pingjockey

Nah, way too much. That'll throw rubble all the way to Damascus.

That's a bad thing? Last time I checked, Damascus was in need of some rubbleizing.

209 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:16:03pm

re: #184 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We try to be funny and suddenly Hugo Bossing us around.

210 bosforus  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:16:22pm

re: #14 MJ

Another reason to kick the UN out of the US.

Do a google image search for the word "uninvolved".
Or just click here.
[Link: images.google.com...]

211 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:16:29pm
212 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:16:38pm
213 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:17:08pm
214 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:17:31pm

re: #208 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That much tonnage would make a hell of a mess. We don't want to get rid of the people, just the mad mullahs and their mad dwarf spokesman.

215 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:17:43pm

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

Some people deserved to be Wanged up side the head for these puns.

216 akak  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:17:47pm
217 Last Mohican  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:17:58pm

re: #209 calcajun

You know, Versace weak idea, this has gone on for a surprisingly long time.

Donatella Charles, heagonna be mad.

218 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:18:07pm

re: #211 WriterMom

LOL!

219 Da_Beerfreak  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:18:18pm

re: #189 taxfreekiller

Piss off the U.N. so bad they would pack up and leave.

Boot all of their cars and make them pay off all their parking tickets.
That will send them packing for sure.

220 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:18:29pm

re: #214 pingjockey

Also if their centrifuges are underground, it is enough to seal the entrances with rock rubble.

221 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:18:50pm

re: #202 Creeping Eruption

Zegna makes nice neckties. The only kind dinnerjacket needs comes from Columbia though.

* * *
As in ColOmbia, formerly Chavez-funded FARC country?

222 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:18:58pm

re: #217 Last Mohican

Hilfiger it out sooner or later.

223 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:19:11pm

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

People here seem to be having a Blass.

I wish Kenneth were here. Kenzo calm and level-headed, isn't he?

224 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:19:26pm

re: #218 Creeping Eruption

I'll see your LOL and raise you a ROFLMZTO.

(rolling on the floor, laughing my Zionist tuches off)

225 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:19:51pm

re: #194 alegrias

* * *
In Obama's case, the Ermenegildo Zegna! Pun that, Senyor Ocasional!

A favor, please. Let's lay off Ermenegildo Zegna. Zegna ties are the reason I quit darknening the door of Neiman Marcus. Gets awfully expensive when one leaps off the table and physically drags me across the parquet floor to the salesman.

226 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:19:54pm

re: #220 Ojoe
True that. Catch all the damn scientists too.

227 wolfie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:19:57pm

re: #188 buzzsawmonkey

A very good point. It could have been much more difficult to unite the country w/ both the America Firsters and the Reds making up a the 5th column.

On the other hand, the American people as a whole were still very patriotic. They had not been subjected to all the "nuanced" history lessons that are standard fare in education and the media today.

The nuts were there and not without power, but they had not yet taken over the asylum.

228 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:19:59pm
229 Last Mohican  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:20:19pm

re: #222 calcajun

LOL! (first time I ever typed that and really meant it)

230 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:20:20pm

re: #112 calcajun,

Um, how many Republicans met with Mussolini in 1942? How many called FDR a murderer, or said he'd betrayed America? Not lunatic Bundists, but, say, former Presidential candidates, seated senators, and the like?

How many Republicans wanted the Nazis to win?

Some links, please. The Republicans were a loyal opposition. The Democrats of today are pushing the bleeding edge of treason.

231 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:20:27pm

re: #221 alegrias

good neckties for Mr. Dinnerjacket
You will see

232 jill e  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:20:49pm

Bush's approval rating would skyrocket if he would just go ahead and deny this little turd's Visa.

233 Annar  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:21:05pm

He could invite AhmadInJihad to join the all star cast at his Denver coronation which will include Rev. Wright, Imam Farrakhan, surviving members of the Weather Underground, Harun Yahya (who could visit his soul brother Kent (Dino Man) Hovind in prison) and, finally, a plethora of washed up celebrities who will pledge fealty to the Hidden Imam so they may leave for Iran if Obambi loses.

234 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:21:06pm

re: #193 goddessoftheclassroom

Do want me to change the Chanel...?

We dogs use eau de toilette

235 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:21:14pm

re: #210 bosforus

That's - special...

236 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:21:25pm

re: #221 alegrias

* * *
As in ColOmbia, formerly Chavez-funded FARC country?

THey make just the right kind of tie for adinnerjacket. COlumbian Necktie

237 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:21:45pm

re: #225 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A favor, please. Let's lay off Ermenegildo Zegna. Zegna ties are the reason I quit darknening the door of Neiman Marcus. Gets awfully expensive when one leaps off the table and physically drags me across the parquet floor to the salesman.

* * *
Oscar "the tentmaker" de la Renta could cover Ahmedinejad's first lady's formal wear needs.

238 Sir Napsalot  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:22:03pm

Re my post #47 Whose Halo will be shiny-er?

Ahmadinerjah gave a speech at UN, with a light shining on him, and he held the audience spell-bound, not blinking for 25 min.

Obama, as the messiah, naturally has his own halo.

Very fitting, for the one person bound and determined to bring out the 12th imam from his hiding well,

and what not...

239 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:22:07pm
240 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:22:16pm

re: #225 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A favor, please. Let's lay off Ermenegildo Zegna. Zegna ties are the reason I quit darknening the door of Neiman Marcus. Gets awfully expensive when one leaps off the table and physically drags me across the parquet floor to the salesman.

So you're Zegna don't want us to continue?

241 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:22:19pm

re: #213 taxfreekiller,

+-3%, so Congress could have a negative approval rating.

242 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:22:43pm

re: #225 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A favor, please. Let's lay off Ermenegildo Zegna. Zegna ties are the reason I quit darknening the door of Neiman Marcus. Gets awfully expensive when one leaps off the table and physically drags me across the parquet floor to the salesman.

I'm with you on that. I have a few . . . too many, and I rarely wear ties.

243 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:22:47pm

re: #211 WriterMom

Maybe the Iranian media can run some photoshopped images of Jews fleeing Tel Aviv?

244 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:22:55pm

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

People here seem to be having a Blass.

I'm sending you a Bill for another keyboard.

245 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:23:04pm

re: #227 wolfie

Yes, but they were averse to casualties then as they are now. If they knew how bad the damage had been at Pearl, or what a debacle the Anzio landings had been, and so on, there is some speculation that the desire to press on would have waned.

If we had to invade the home islands, the public would have balked at huge casualty lists and demanded we negotiate a peace treaty with the Japanese.

246 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:23:11pm

re: #225 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A favor, please. Let's lay off Ermenegildo Zegna. Zegna ties are the reason I quit darknening the door of Neiman Marcus. Gets awfully expensive when one leaps off the table and physically drags me across the parquet floor to the salesman.

* * *
Ouch! Glad to know when the Zegna got tough, the tough got going.

247 runrabbitrun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:23:24pm

Now I'm hoping that McCain doesn't try to appease the indies/Dems by saying something 'reasonable' about Achmed's visit.

I'm thinking that the reason for the satiric New Yorker cover is to pre-empt claims of partisan favoritism when they produce their election issue cover portraying Mac as a philandering, scar-covered, brain-addled geriatric coot - of courser in the case of a McCain cartoon cover, just days before the presidential vote. And we won't need for the NY'er to have any more ammunition.

248 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:23:28pm

re: #243 Kenneth

Maybe the Iranian media can run some photoshopped images of Jews fleeing Tel Aviv?

Why are those hundreds of men all wearing the same shirt?

249 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:23:32pm

re: #230 Iron Fist

,

Um, how many Republicans
met with Mussolini in 1942? How many called FDR a murderer, or said
he'd betrayed America? Not lunatic Bundists, but, say, former
Presidential candidates, seated senators, and the like?

How many Republicans wanted the Nazis to win?

Some links, please. The Republicans were a loyal opposition. The Democrats of today are pushing the bleeding edge of treason.

The GOP of WWII was loyal to the point of nominating Wendell Wilkie to run against FDR. No offense meant (I got a funny-sounding name myself), but no one wanted a "President Wilkie" to take on Hitler.

250 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:24:04pm

re: #199 pingjockey

Nah, way too much. That'll throw rubble all the way to Damascus.

OK you can dial them down to 200 KT each and still get the job done.

251 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:24:40pm

re: #248 Silhouette

Why are those hundreds of men all wearing the same shirt?

All those jews look a like.

/

252 Annar  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:25:17pm

Oops: replace "He could" by "The DNC could" at the beginning of my previous post.

253 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:25:19pm
254 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:25:28pm

re: #243 Kenneth

Yes-here it is!

255 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:25:43pm

re: #245 calcajun
I don't think so. The public was pissed about Pearl Harbor. There was a very high revenge factor at work here. Plus the propaganda showed the Japanese as less than human. We weren't fighting people, we were fighting animals.

256 runrabbitrun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:25:45pm

re: #247 runrabbitrun

- of courser in the case of a McCain cartoon cover

Should have been 'of course', but in context 'of courser' kind of works too

/

257 Clemente  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:25:51pm
Wonder if Obama’s people are discussing the logistics yet with Mahmoud’s people?

Since BHO's character, principles, and primary occupation are a matter of record, I imagine they're simply discussing price.

259 faraway  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:26:16pm

Obama will tell him he has been hiding in a well in Hawaii.

260 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:26:34pm

re: #240 Occasional Reader

So you're Zegna don't want us to continue?

* * *
Me rindo! You Advanced Placement smartie~King Juan Carlos couldn't stump you, much less shut you up!

261 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:26:36pm

re: #230 Iron Fist

None. But there were plenty of people who wondered why we had to ally ourselves with the USSR and why we kept dumping money into Chaing's China. We know now why it had to be done, but the reasons were never fully explained to the US public.

262 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:26:45pm

re: #36 Cygnus

Grow more hemp.

263 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:26:46pm

When the RNC came to New York, the Pro-Women, Pro-Abortion, Pro-Civil Right, Pro-Gay Rights, Anti-Violence, Anti-War, Anti-Nuke crowd came out and did this.

I am publicly calling out all of these people when a true enemy of all the things they hold dear, if not the peace itself, comes to New York.

Show me that you actually stand for the things mentioned above, and not just against Republicans!

264 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:27:15pm

re: #249 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Wilkie would have also been an apologist for the Third Reich.

265 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:27:17pm

re: #242 Creeping Eruption

I'm with you on that. I have a few . . . too many, and I rarely wear ties.

Same here. The Zegnas are my favorites.

266 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:28:05pm

re: #263 WrathofG-d
Not gonna happen, ever. They like 3rd world dictators.

267 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:28:29pm

Don't have time to read all the posts, so apologies if anyone said this.

When he arrives, he should be arrested, and told he will receive all the respect for his diplomatic status that he gave our diplomats.
And if the UN doesn't like it, they can move to Tehran and hope that isn't on Israel's target list.

268 bosforus  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:29:10pm

re: #235 Cap'n DOC

That's - special...

If only it were true.

269 wolfie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:29:18pm

re: #245 calcajun

I think you're right.....( but overstating the case whn you say it's no worse today.)

In the line of what you're saying, can you imagine what would have be the story had we had television shots of all those bodybags, etc etc etc. !

270 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:29:37pm

re: #267 Kosh's Shadow

Don't have time to read all the posts, so apologies if anyone said this.

When he arrives, he should be arrested, and told he will receive all the respect for his diplomatic status that he gave our diplomats.
And if the UN doesn't like it, they can move to Tehran and hope that isn't on Israel's target list.

That pretty much concisely sums up the previous 266 posts give or take a few references to his premature end in unnatural ways.

271 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:29:42pm

re: #266 pingjockey

You are right and they should be publically shamed for it.

As bad as Bush and the "evil" Evangelical Christians are....they have nothing on Ahmadinejad and Iran.

The "left" is so f.o.s., it is no longer funny. They should be called on their hypocracy.

272 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:29:43pm
273 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:29:52pm
274 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:29:59pm

re: #247 runrabbitrun

Now I'm hoping that McCain doesn't try to appease the indies/Dems by saying something 'reasonable' about Achmed's visit.

I'm thinking that the reason for the satiric New Yorker cover is to pre-empt claims of partisan favoritism when they produce their election issue cover portraying Mac as a philandering, scar-covered, brain-addled geriatric coot - of courser in the case of a McCain cartoon cover, just days before the presidential vote. And we won't need for the NY'er to have any more ammunition.

* * *
Didn't you get the word today, McCain is SO OLD, he doesn't do his own emails, websearches, googling, blogging or photoshopping?

That's what I heard this morning on local radio WMAL 630-am.

I was so hoping a computer geek would become my Commander in Chief! (NOT)

Anyone else remember Al Gore in his brown designer suits, wearing a cell phone on his belt to show how tech savvy he was?

275 faraway  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:30:46pm

DinnerJacket is going to Colombia to discuss Genesis.

276 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:31:02pm

re: #267 Kosh's Shadow

Israel should take him, and trade him for Shalit, Arad, Goldwasser etc.

277 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:31:03pm

re: #229 Last Mohican

What can I say. I was inspired. Now others will be Jockeying for position.

278 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:31:13pm

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

People here seem to be having a Blass.

hey buzz..
full disclosure.. I still can't get our internet going at the new house after a week..
So a special thanks to some neighbor around here.. I'm stealing your internet.. and i really feel bad..
AT&T is working on it so i feel comfortable with that..
/ i always see the glass 1/2 full

So buzzmonkey..keep it up, love reading your stuff.
It's time for the hoopster to swim some laps in the pool..love the new house..( the housing crunch has been heaven for our family..got a killer house for a great price..not bragging..but really happy our things turned out for our family )

279 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:31:36pm

re: #271 WrathofG-d
We do all the time here. Can you imagine the LSM asking the head of each of those groups why aren't they protesting the treatment in Iran of their fellow constituents.

280 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:31:43pm

re: #246 alegrias

* * *
Ouch! Glad to know when the Zegna got tough, the tough got going.

The tough would get taken for about $140 a pop!

281 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:32:17pm

re: #269 wolfie

I did not mean to say it's not worse today. It's just nothing new. I agree though that if BHO becomes POTUS, the level or criticism will taper off--unless he makes a right hash of things.

282 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:32:49pm

re: #275 faraway

DinnerJacket is going to Colombia to discuss Genesis.

* * *
Paradise is a persian word, isn't it?

283 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:33:06pm

re: #279 pingjockey


Can I expect the MSM to do it? Hahahahahah; NO!

But someone should, especially in a place they can hear it. Maybe with "street art", or on their blogs, etc.

We can say it here....but they dont' hear it here.

284 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:33:12pm

re: #273 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its worse than you can imagine

The Revenge of the Goddess (scene 23)

285 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:33:16pm

re: #274 alegrias

* * *
Didn't you get the word today, McCain is SO OLD, he doesn't do his own emails, websearches, googling, blogging or photoshopping?

That's what I heard this morning on local radio WMAL 630-am.

That's better than Barry O not having anyone keeping an eye on things at his website/

286 quickjustice  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:33:30pm

Think he'll bring along his burqa-clad bride?

We New Yorkers are getting the green filters ready to put over the spotlights in the U.N. General Assembly so he can reprise his "frozen in green light" moment.

287 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:33:46pm

re: #283 WrathofG-d
I don't recall a whole lot of protests at his last visit.

288 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:35:26pm

re: #287 pingjockey

Noone with protest. That is what is sad. Bush they will protest, McCain they would protest. For Obama they will come out in droves.

But to say that N.Y. doesn't want a Anti-Women, Anti-Homosexual, Anti-Western World lunatic...they must stay home.

Its really sad.

289 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:35:28pm

re: #284 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The Revenge of the Goddess (scene 23)

I am really giggling here...

290 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:35:29pm

re: #280 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The tough would get taken for about $140 a pop!

* * *
One sharp-dressed preboomer marine brat, supporting Italy's finest tailors!

291 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:35:49pm

re: #275 faraway

DinnerJacket is going to Colombia to discuss Genesis.

Project Genesis?
First Khan, then The Klingons - when will people learn?

292 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:36:07pm

OT:

LOL. I am watching 3 morons across the street trying to decide how to get a semi full of dirt dumped into the space of a parking spot. It is almost painful watching these guys sit here scratching their heads trying to figure this out.

Ok - there it goes - right in the entrance of the parking lot. Not sure how the 400 cars are going to get out, but hey, the dirt has been delivered.

293 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:36:32pm

re: #188 buzzsawmonkey

Remember that we would have been as divided during WWII as we are today, or as we were in Vietnam, had Hitler not been so stupid as to invade the Soviet Union the summer before Pearl Harbor.

People forget that the communists were anti-Nazi until the Hitler-Stalin Pact. After the Pact, the communists went pacifist/non-interventionist. It was not until Germany invaded Russia that the communists made a 180-degree turn and became anti-Nazi again.

The communists controlled the merchant marine unions, the longshoreman's unions, the coal miners' unions, the Auto Workers, the screenwriters and the newspaper unions. Think for a minute what the level of sabotage of the war effort would have been had these entities not been on board to defeat the invaders of Mother Russia.

"Buzz" -

VERY GOOD POINT, though we might disagree about which Unions were or were not Communist, the influence was there - there to a point that even many Jewish Communists stuck with "The Program" until the invasion. Both sides of my family knew a few of them. Some got the message from their experience, some never did. Marxism to that degree is just another "faith," much the same as as Radical Islam.

-S-

294 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:36:37pm

re: #290 alegrias

* * *
One sharp-dressed preboomer marine brat, supporting Italy's finest tailors!

I have no French clothes.

295 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:36:55pm

Will Ahmadinejad bring this poster (or one like it) with him? Just to remind folks what he's all about?

Because if Ahmadinejad had his way, folks like Esti and millions of others would have a real bad day.

296 iminj  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:36:57pm

Iranian swimmer refuses to compete with Israeli during pre-Olympic swim meet in Croatia - July 12, 2008.

[Link: www2.irna.ir...]

Check out this little comment from the IRNA website: (Iran state-controlled mouthpiece)

"Referring to the support of Swimming Federation, he noted that the related officials have made a special program for appreciating him."

Bottom line, these Iranian bastards are proud of this unsportsmanlike crap, openly celebrate it, and the rest of the world gives them a free pass. ......

297 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:37:14pm

re: #288 WrathofG-d,

You have to understand, he is anti-Western. More specifically, he is anti-American. The Left willl forgive almost anything for that.

298 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:37:16pm

re: #292 Creeping Eruption

OT:

LOL. I am watching 3 morons across the street trying to decide how to get a semi full of dirt dumped into the space of a parking spot. It is almost painful watching these guys sit here scratching their heads trying to figure this out.

Ok - there it goes - right in the entrance of the parking lot. Not sure how the 400 cars are going to get out, but hey, the dirt has been delivered.

Follow-up: Not sure how the semi is going to get out either as it was in the lot when it dumped its load. ROFLMAO

299 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:37:17pm

re: #292 Creeping Eruption
Why are they dumping dirt into a paved(?) parking lot? Landscaping?

300 akak  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:37:31pm

re: #292 Creeping Eruption

OT:

LOL. I am watching 3 morons across the street trying to decide how to get a semi full of dirt dumped into the space of a parking spot. It is almost painful watching these guys sit here scratching their heads trying to figure this out.

Ok - there it goes - right in the entrance of the parking lot. Not sure how the 400 cars are going to get out, but hey, the dirt has been delivered.

Revenge of Mr Snowplower...

301 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:37:32pm

re: #274 alegrias

Didn't you get the word today, McCain is SO OLD, he doesn't do his own emails, websearches, googling, blogging or photoshopping?

The Party of Tolerance is being tolerant again. This time ageist rather than racist or sexist.

They wear t-shirts quoting old American Indian sayings about respecting the land, but when it comes to respecting their elders, they have more in common with Logan's Run than American Indians.

Don't get me wrong, I am not for voting for someone because they are older, either. Once they meet the Constitutional requirements, age shouldn't matter a whit.

302 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:38:09pm

re: #291 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

We will now rise at the mention of Kahn, saluting Ricardo Montalban.

303 loveguru  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:38:16pm

silly question

but what is "US Congress mandated body"

304 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:38:33pm

re: #299 pingjockey

Why are they dumping dirt into a paved(?) parking lot? Landscaping?

They just put in a really nice fence and need to landscape around it. . . .more head scratching.

305 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:38:58pm

re: #294 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I have no French clothes.

When I went to a gala back last fall, I asked my escort to hold my purse for a second. Affecting the Queer Eye voice, he said, "Only if it's Fwench." I opened my bag to show him the Givenchy tag inside...

306 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:39:05pm

re: #298 Creeping Eruption

Follow-up: Not sure how the semi is going to get out either as it was in the lot when it dumped its load. ROFLMAO

I really hope you have a camera.

307 HelloDare  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:39:08pm

The Kennedy-Khrushchev Conference for Dummies
Remedial history for Barack Obama.
by Scott W. Johnson

In Portland on May 18, Obama cited John F. Kennedy's 1961 summit with Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev in Vienna among the series of negotiations that led to America's triumph over the Soviet Union in the Cold War. The Vienna summit, however, disproves Obama's assertion...


"I never met a man like this," Kennedy subsequently commented to Time's Hugh Sidey. "[I] talked about how a nuclear exchange would kill 70 million people in ten minutes, and he just looked at me as if to say 'So what?'" In The Fifty-Year Wound, Cold War historian Derek Leebaert drily observes of Khrushchev in Vienna, "Having worked for Stalin had its uses."


Khrushchev berated, belittled, and bullied Kennedy on subjects ranging from Communist ideology to the balance of power between the Soviet and Western blocs, to Laos, to "wars of national liberation," to nuclear testing. He threw down the gauntlet on Berlin in particular, all but threatening war.


Kennedy said to Reston that Khrushchev had "just beat [the] hell out of me" and that he had presented Kennedy with a terrible problem: "If he thinks I'm inexperienced and have no
guts, until we remove those ideas we won't get anywhere with him. So we have to act."


Seeking the advice of former Secretary of State Dean Acheson and others, Kennedy pondered his options...he was seeking congressional approval for an additional $3.25 billion in defense spending, the doubling and tripling of draft calls, calling up reserves, raising the Army's total authorized strength, increasing active duty numbers in the Navy and Air Force, reconditioning planes and ships in mothballs...


In August, Khrushchev responded in his own fashion, erecting the Berlin wall and resuming above ground nuclear testing.

308 bosforus  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:39:09pm

re: #292 Creeping Eruption

...Not sure how the 400 cars are going to get out, but hey, the dirt has been delivered.

One problem at a time. Or, 400 at a time, come 5:00.

309 quickjustice  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:39:13pm

re: #20 gibsonz

It would be nice if Bloomberg assigned and all-Jewish NYPD bodyguard to protect him the way LaGuardia did for the Nazi foreign minister back in the 1930s.

More likely, Bloomberg will send the CAIR representative to the NYC Human Rights Commission to meet President A., dhimmi that he is.

310 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:39:14pm

re: #287 pingjockey

I don't recall a whole lot of protests at his last visit.

Hey I was there at Turtle bay protesting with my Ahmedinijad is a pig fornicator sign.

311 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:39:37pm

re: #298 Creeping Eruption

Follow-up: Not sure how the semi is going to get out either as it was in the lot when it dumped its load. ROFLMAO

Get some pictures and you can send them to failblog

312 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:39:42pm

re: #304 Creeping Eruption
Live entertainment.

313 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:39:50pm

re: #294 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I have no French clothes.

* * *
Good for you but don't be fooled by the name! May bear no relation to country of origin.

For example, one pair of Ermengildo Zegna slacks I know is made in Portugal. Somehow I doubt they were allies in fighting terrorism. Hope I'm wrong.

314 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:39:56pm

re: #298 Creeping Eruption

Follow-up: Not sure how the semi is going to get out either as it was in the lot when it dumped its load. ROFLMAO

You should take pcitures and post them here:

[Link: failblog.org...]

315 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:40:02pm
316 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:40:13pm

re: #306 Silhouette

I really hope you have a camera.

I wish. Im stuck at work. Camera at home. Cell cam would not do this justice.

317 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:40:17pm

re: #309 quickjustice

Nope, he'll make sure that Ahmadinejad isn't exposed to transfats or smoking. /

318 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:40:56pm

re: #296 iminj

THREAD WORTHY, dear Charles~

319 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:41:21pm

re: #287 pingjockey

I don't recall a whole lot of protests at his last visit.

Simple reason, the people on our side of the aisle have jobs and responsibilities. Its easy for the ganja smoking hippies to show up for anything.

320 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:41:28pm

re: #305 goddessoftheclassroom

When I went to a gala back last fall, I asked my escort to hold my purse for a second. Affecting the Queer Eye voice, he said, "Only if it's Fwench." I opened my bag to show him the Givenchy tag inside...

*biting my tongue in half*
heh

321 loveguru  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:41:30pm

Can anyone put light on the fact, what is "US Congress mandated body"...

I m unable to locate them on google...

322 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:41:31pm

This is kinda sad:

Berkeley City Council has a councilperson named Dona Spring. She's confined to a wheelchair and made her name being a disabled advocate. On Friday, there will be a film premiere in Berkeley of a documentary made about her. She was going to appear in person, and be treated like a star.

But out of the blue, she died today. Right before her big celebration.

I'd come to disagree with Dona Spring on many issues (she was considered the most left-leaning member of the most left-leaning city council ever), but she wasn't a bad human being. She really was extremely disabled and yet overcame it to lead a full and successful life, and never whined or complained about it. For that she has my respect.

RIP Dona Spring.

323 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:41:43pm

re: #201 WrathofG-d

Will there be a protest of his attendance?

I'll be there!

324 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:41:46pm

re: #310 SpartanWoman
Good for you. Thanks also for being there for those of us who can't.

325 Creeping Eruption  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:42:30pm

re: #316 Creeping Eruption

I wish. Im stuck at work. Camera at home. Cell cam would not do this justice.

OK. Problem solved. The cavalry arrived . . in the form of a bobcat. LOL

326 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:43:02pm

re: #324 pingjockey

Good for you. Thanks also for being there for those of us who can't.

I saved my sign and collected quite a few more after it was over so I will be better prepared this time!

327 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:43:07pm

re: #313 alegrias

Absolutely. Everyone's going for the cheapest labor rates they can find ... because consumers simply don't get it.

328 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:43:15pm

re: #319 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I forgot!

329 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:43:37pm

re: #322 zombie

This is kinda sad:

Berkeley City Council has a councilperson named Dona Spring. She's confined to a wheelchair and made her name being a disabled advocate. On Friday, there will be a film premiere in Berkeley of a documentary made about her. She was going to appear in person, and be treated like a star.

But out of the blue, she died today. Right before her big celebration.

I'd come to disagree with Dona Spring on many issues (she was considered the most left-leaning member of the most left-leaning city council ever), but she wasn't a bad human being. She really was extremely disabled and yet overcame it to lead a full and successful life, and never whined or complained about it. For that she has my respect.

RIP Dona Spring.

Thats just sad. Hopefully she is in a better place.

330 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:43:44pm

re: #318 alegrias

I was told by an Iranian friend of mine that Jews were not allowed to go outside in the rain in Iran for fear that the water would hit a Jew then bounce off and land on an Muslim.

They felt that this water connection between the Jew and the Muslim would "contaminate" the Muslim.

This might be another aspect to the refusal to swim that is being left out by the MSM.

331 loveguru  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:43:46pm

re: #315 WrathofG-d

no they will now... Let means self hate, and in this self hate they praised the person, who is dedicated to destroying the identity completely..

so left this, once identity is erased, self is also erased....

332 gymnast  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:43:57pm

I think I know where Ahmadinejad can get a cheap seat on a target drone. It would save a lot of wear and tear on Iran if he were to make a reservation.

333 Vergeltung  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:44:30pm

re: #319 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Simple reason, the people on our side of the aisle have jobs and responsibilities. Its easy for the ganja smoking hippies to show up for anything.

the one stand-out counter example to that that I can think of is the Florida election fiasco in the 2000 election. Didn't some conservative guys strom an office or something.

Am I remembering that right?

334 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:44:39pm

re: #329 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats just sad. Hopefully she is in a better place.

Many places are better than Berkeley. May she RIP

335 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:44:48pm

re: #307 HelloDare,

Pardon me, but looking back on it (and not having lived it) I fail to see how Kennedy was such a great President. He fucked up the Bay of Pigs, almost had a nuclear exchange in the Cuban Missile Crises, and started Vietnam. Then he was assassinated.

This is not a record of grand achievement. I guess it could have been worse. Khrushchev could have nuked us.

336 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:44:57pm

re: #321 loveguru
Where did you see that? ("US Congress mandated body)?

337 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:45:07pm

re: #322 zombie
That is sad. She must have overcame an enormous amount of pain in her life to do her job. RIP

338 Dianna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:45:51pm

re: #322 zombie

Ditto.

I met her once, and she was gracious.

339 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:47:09pm
340 runrabbitrun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:47:14pm

re: #274 alegrias

* * *
Anyone else remember Al Gore in his brown designer suits, wearing a cell phone on his belt to show how tech savvy he was?

oh yes, I usually revisit that vision of loveliness in bad dreams after overindulging in a sackful of greasy-rich (aka yummy) cheap fast food.

This would be elevated to 'night terror' category if big Al doffed his jacket to reveal his midsection, buttons straining, in a shiny white polyester short sleeve shirt with a pocket protector bearing a neon 'Staples' logo.

341 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:47:17pm

re: #335 Iron Fist
It is the media and the leftist rosy view of Camelot. I was 4 when Kennedy was shot. Dad doesn't have many good things to say about JFK still.

342 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:48:23pm

re: #341 pingjockey

It is the media and the leftist rosy view of Camelot. I was 4 when Kennedy was shot. Dad doesn't have many good things to say about JFK still.

Mine neither, he voted for Nixon.

343 enginemike  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:52:28pm

Hopefully he will have sense enough not to visit Columbia this time.

I do not agree with the man on much but I have to admit that he is right when he says that Columbia is rude and sleazy.

344 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:53:01pm

re: #330 WrathofG-d

I was told by an Iranian friend of mine that Jews were not allowed to go outside in the rain in Iran for fear that the water would hit a Jew then bounce off and land on an Muslim.

They felt that this water connection between the Jew and the Muslim would "contaminate" the Muslim.

This might be another aspect to the refusal to swim that is being left out by the MSM.

* * *
Mark Spitz' 7 Olympic gold medals in swimming & the resultant poster alone probably drove them wild.

And speaking of Munich 1972, all I know about these totalitarians, I learned when Arafat's terrorists attacked & murdered Israel's wrestling team.

345 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:53:58pm

re: #342 SpartanWoman
Mine too, then Goldwater.

346 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:54:26pm

re: #322 zombie

And the sad thing is Zombie, if she'd a been of the conservative persuasion, those folks wouldabeen dancin' in the streets. I hear you and agree.

347 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:55:13pm

That little Iranian twerp needs these:
[Link: www.toolfetch.com...]

348 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:55:32pm

re: #32 opnion

WONDER IF OBAMA WILL BE A TOP OR BOTTOM?

SCARCISM
i know i am being a bad boy.

349 WrathofG-d  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:56:22pm

re: #344 alegrias

The entire purpose of the Olympics is to move past politics and show how together and peaceful the world can be.

If the Olympic Board (or whatever they are called) truly believed in this message and purpose they would outright ban any Country (let alone entire team) that refuses to compete with another for ANY reason that is political.

Like everything else these days, the Olympics are a sham!

350 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:56:49pm

re: #291 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Khan: I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round perdition's flames before I give him up.

351 TheMatrix31  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:58:05pm

On a semi-related note to this thread topic.....my Nobama Appeasment Tour shirt FINALLY arrived in the mail.

352 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:58:17pm

re: #350 calcajun

Khan:
I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares
Maelstrom and 'round perdition's flames before I give him up.

Chekov: "They put creatures in our wodies!"

353 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:59:18pm

re: #352 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"I changed the conditions of the test".
"He cheated".

354 vagabond trader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:59:18pm

Actually, I'm beginning to suspect that the lil pos likes America better than the Obama does.

355 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 1:59:48pm

re: #333 Vergeltung

the one stand-out counter example to that that I can think of is the Florida election fiasco in the 2000 election. Didn't some conservative guys strom an office or something.

Am I remembering that right?

* * *
Any alleged storming of offices by conservatives would have no doubt been to protect hanging chads & evidence from "being disappeared".

356 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:00:25pm

re: #322 zombie
the difference between us lizards and the moonbat left is when a leftist dies (excluding mass murders) we show respect we would for any human being.

357 NoSubmission  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:00:36pm

re: #351 TheMatrix31

On a semi-related note to this thread topic.....my Nobama Appeasment Tour shirt FINALLY arrived in the mail.

cool! got a pic?

358 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:01:14pm

re: #353 pingjockey

"I changed the conditions of the test".
"He cheated".

"That was a hell of a thing when Spock died."
/Seinfeld

359 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:01:22pm

re: #351 TheMatrix31

On a semi-related note to this thread topic.....my Nobama Appeasment Tour shirt FINALLY arrived in the mail.

I want one too!

360 tgibson1962  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:01:51pm

re: #152 ROPMA

Great icon! I finished "A Genius For War", a Patton biography, a couple of months ago. I didn't know he was dyslexic, which makes his work at VMI & West Point even more impressive.

361 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:02:02pm

Time to call it a day, Lizards.

362 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:02:02pm

re: #354 vagabond trader

Actually, I'm beginning to suspect that the lil pos likes America better than the Obama does.

* * *
Ahmedinejad's been to US-ally Iraq more often than our other presidential candidate.

363 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:02:06pm

re: #350 calcajun

Khan: I'll chase him 'round the moons of Nibia and 'round the Antares Maelstrom and 'round perdition's flames before I give him up.

That happened between this woman and myself in my bedroom the other night. I love sci-fi.

Walter in Golden, Co.

364 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:02:18pm

re: #352 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Ah, Walt Koenig--winner of the worst fake Russian in the universe.

Khan: Of course! We're one big happy fleet! Ah, Kirk, my old friend, do you know the Klingon proverb that tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold?
[pause]
Khan: It is very cold in space!

365 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:02:22pm

re: #355 alegrias
I think there was some counting shenanigans going on, no repub monitors, and they forced their way in to keep an eye on the count. IIRC.

366 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:02:32pm

re: #351 TheMatrix31

On a semi-related note to this thread topic.....my Nobama Appeasment Tour shirt FINALLY arrived in the mail.

* * *
Wear it Proud,
Wear it Out!

367 Andopolis  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:02:39pm

re: #275 faraway

DinnerJacket is going to Colombia to discuss Genesis.


Pre or post Peter Gabriel?

368 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:03:44pm

re: #363 Walter L. Newton

Considering all the "white whale" metaphors in that quote, I really did not need that imagery

369 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:03:57pm

re: #307 HelloDare

I compare that to Reagan with Gorbachev in Iceland. To the lazy observer, Reykjavik was a failure because no agreement was reached.

But besides not agreeing to something destructive just for the sake of agreeing, itself a small victory, this is where Reagan played the SDI card.

He would NOT halt SDI, no matter what. And he learned exactly what it was worth by how much Gorbachev was willing to offer to get him to give up SDI.

Reagan saw SDI as a means of eliminating nuclear arms and, therefore, made it a condition of disarmament. Reagan offered to co-operate with the Russians on SDI development, including sharing technology advances. But he refused to halt SDI research and testing, even in return for nuclear disarmament holus bolus , as offered by Gorbachev at Reykjavik in 1986.

As the U.S. summit party departed Iceland on Air Force One, Reagan was told by Charles Zwick, "Ronnie, you just won the Cold War. They admitted they can't compete. They don't have the money to fight the dollar."

370 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:04:12pm

re: #338 Dianna

Ditto.

I met her once, and she was gracious.

She even made an appearance in a zombietime report, perusing Palestinian "art."

371 TheMatrix31  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:04:17pm

I don't have a pic of myself wearing it yet, but I can get you guys the pic on the McCain Store if you havent seen them. I can also take an actual pic of the shirt.....up to you guys.

372 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:04:18pm

re: #367 Andopolis

All in favor of Shocking the Monkey, say Aye.

373 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:05:06pm
374 islamofauxware  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:05:35pm

re: #318 alegrias

I was told by an Iranian friend of mine that Jews were not allowed to go outside in the rain in Iran for fear that the water would hit a Jew then bounce off and land on an Muslim.

They felt that this water connection between the Jew and the Muslim would "contaminate" the Muslim.

This might be another aspect to the refusal to swim that is being left out by the MSM.

The Ahmadinejad visit could be a great opportunity - we should welcome his plane with a pack of K-9's which is standard operating security procedure (as newly implemented).

375 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:05:38pm

re: #368 calcajun

Considering all the "white whale" metaphors in that quote, I really did not need that imagery

heh
Very suble

/still chuckling

376 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:06:13pm

re: #372 calcajun

All in favor of Shocking the Monkey, say Aye.

I would like to propose an amendment for investing in some discretionary funding for spanking of the aforementioned Monkey.

377 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:06:44pm

re: #356 yochanan

the difference between us lizards and the moonbat left is when a leftist dies (excluding mass murders) we show respect we would for any human being.

True. The Left practically danced on Tony Snow's grave, and threw all-night parties when Jesse Helms died. We should (and do) show respect.

378 pegcity  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:07:00pm

re: #369 Silhouette

I compare that to Reagan with Gorbachev in Iceland. To the lazy observer, Reykjavik was a failure because no agreement was reached.

But besides not agreeing to something destructive just for the sake of agreeing, itself a small victory, this is where Reagan played the SDI card.

He would NOT halt SDI, no matter what. And he learned exactly what it was worth by how much Gorbachev was willing to offer to get him to give up SDI.

well that and stealth technology

379 tgibson1962  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:07:43pm

re: #342 SpartanWoman

Mine neither, he voted for Nixon.

I watched "Thirteen Days" a Costner film on the Cuban missile crisis over the weekend. I kept thinking to myself "This whole crisis occurred because the Russians thought Kennedy was weak based on the Vienna summit." The scary thing is that Obama cites the Vienna summit as the rationale for his meeting with terrorists without preconditions.

Conventional wisdom says that nuclear war would have erupted during the Cuban Missile Crisis had Nixon been in the White House. Actually, there probably wouldn't have been a crisis in the first place.

380 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:07:51pm

re: #352 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Chekov: "They put creatures in our wodies!"

I spit my last breath at thee - from Hell's heart I stab at thee.

381 pegcity  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:08:33pm

re: #379 tgibson1962

i could see the Chinese making a move on Taiwan to test out president Obummer

382 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:08:48pm
383 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:08:59pm

re: #356 yochanan

the difference between us lizards and the moonbat left is when a leftist dies (excluding mass murders) we show respect we would for any human being.

There are more than a few I wont shed a tear over when they shuffle off this mortal coil, but I stop short at gloating over their deaths

384 Dianna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:09:02pm

re: #370 zombie

I saw that!

385 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:09:07pm

re: #376 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Uh, I can't (and really don't want to) help you with that one. Eww.

386 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:09:24pm

re: #380 jamgarr

I spit my last breath at thee - from Hell's heart I stab at thee.

One of the great movie villains!
A helluva performance!

387 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:10:18pm

re: #385 calcajun

Uh, I can't (and really don't want to) help you with that one. Eww.

Oh come on, lend me a $20. Strippers got to work too.

388 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:10:34pm
389 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:10:46pm

re: #386 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Complete with his fake chest chest to make him look even muy macho.

390 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:10:46pm

re: #386 pre-Boomer Marine brat

One of the great movie villains!
A helluva performance!


"Yours is a superior . . . "

391 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:11:05pm

re: #374 islamofauxware

* * *
Ah, more examples of our using symbolic soft power to counter totalitarians ineffectually.

Oddly enough, Ahmedinejad's not afraid of walking where Western dogs tread to poke us in the eye.

392 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:11:25pm

re: #356 yochanan

the difference between us lizards and the moonbat left is when a leftist dies (excluding mass murders) we show respect we would for any human being.

The sad part is how many leftists would jump on that phrase to insist that all right-winger are mass murderers, or support of mass murder.

393 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:11:38pm

re: #387 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And again I say Eww.

394 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:12:06pm

re: #374 islamofauxware

make sure they are very drool covered dogs. and make sure they have flies

395 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:12:36pm

re: #296 iminj

Iranian swimmer refuses to compete with Israeli during pre-Olympic swim meet in Croatia - July 12, 2008.

[Link: www2.irna.ir...]

Check out this little comment from the IRNA website: (Iran state-controlled mouthpiece)

"Referring to the support of Swimming Federation, he noted that the related officials have made a special program for appreciating him."

Bottom line, these Iranian bastards are proud of this unsportsmanlike crap, openly celebrate it, and the rest of the world gives them a free pass. ......

He should be disqualified from the Olympics. And if any other Iranians don't like it, they can leave, too.

396 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:12:57pm

re: #382 buzzsawmonkey

So why is that base outraged? Why are they protesting the cover? Is it from some lingering awareness that they are grossly out of step with the country, and that they must conceal their true feelings and aims in order to win in the fall?

I don't know either, but I would say it's more because they're shallow-minded.

397 jcw46  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:13:07pm

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

I was thinking of a squishier stool than that.

More like this one.

398 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:13:36pm

re: #392 Silhouette

The sad part is how many leftists would jump on that phrase to insist that all right-winger are mass murderers, or support of mass murder.

* * *
It takes a special mind to equate "PRO-lifers" with mass murder, but yet they do daily.

399 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:13:41pm

re: #379 tgibson1962

we were 24 hours from a nuke war. my source my father who was attached to one of the missle units that were sent to key west.

400 rgranger  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:14:51pm

re: #23 Pianobuff

Can anybody help me on this?

I've been reading that this page....[Link: origin.barackobama.com...] has been revamped quite recently.

Are there techniques for getting the old version so I can compare content and grap the version dates of the page?

Any pointers on going about this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[Link: origin.barackobama.com...]
[Link: www.searchengineshowdown.com...]

401 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:14:59pm

re: #399 yochanan

we were 24 hours from a nuke war. my source my father who was attached to one of the missle units that were sent to key west.

My dad was on one of the troop transports waiting to see if they were going to invade.

402 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:15:12pm

re: #389 calcajun

Complete with his fake chest chest to make him look even muy macho.

What th' hell. It's all stage setting anyway.

(I don't follow individual actors/actresses. I go for, or don't go for, their individual performances.)

403 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:15:32pm
404 tgibson1962  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:15:56pm

re: #381 pegcity

i could see the Chinese making a move on Taiwan to test out president Obummer

An I could, under Obama, see us blinking.

405 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:16:24pm

re: #390 jamgarr

"Yours is a superior . . . "

Genuflection is greatly appreciated, but I'd prefer that you send money.

406 vagabond trader  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:16:31pm

re: #339 buzzsawmonkey

The left are incapable of self examination and have no sense of irony.Michelle Malkin has a great column on the matter.

407 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:16:43pm

re: #399 yochanan

we were 24 hours from a nuke war. my source my father who was attached to one of the missle units that were sent to key west.

* * *
So who gets credited with the "Peter Pan" project that rescued Cuban emigre children from Castro's clutches after Kennedy's fiasco? Or was it before Kennedy's failure to provide air cover to US-trained Cubans trying to keep Castro from taking over?

DId the Kennedy Administration try to pretend they saved the day though Castro killed thousands?

408 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:16:49pm

re: #401 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

my father was attached to a honest john missle battery it was my understanding they had nuke war heads they were being readied to be fired the next day i heard my father tell my mother when he got back to ft benning "I am glad K. blinked"

409 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:17:13pm

re: #379 tgibson1962

JFK supposedly had a bout of his Addision's Disease before going to Vienna. Khrushchev saw how doped he was and thought him to be sick and weak. That is why he pushed his luck in Cuba. Had RMN been president, it's possible there would not have been a crisis.

Remember, old Vulcan proverb; Only Nixon could go to China.

410 jamgarr  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:17:43pm

re: #405 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Genuflection is greatly appreciated, but I'd prefer that you send money.


What, no real estate?

411 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:18:12pm

the percieved american weakness will cause more war.

412 tgibson1962  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:18:38pm

re: #399 yochanan

we were 24 hours from a nuke war. my source my father who was attached to one of the missle units that were sent to key west.

I was ten months old at the time. After seeing the movie, I'm glad I made it to one.

Of course, in the movie, the military was the "bad guy." The Kennedys were heroic...

413 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:19:01pm

re: #401 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

My dad was on one of the troop transports waiting to see if they were going to invade.

Which branch of the service? From where? My dad was at Camp LeJeune at the time. Went out. Floated around.

414 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:19:47pm

re: #412 tgibson1962

that is hollywird speaking the American military does what it is told they dont make policy. the hollywird moonbats don't get that.

415 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:19:51pm

re: #404 tgibson1962

An I could, under Obama, see us blinking.

Which brings up the question, what WOULD he draw the line at? I'm thinking despots and sudry assh*les around the globe are going to see what they can do to their neighborhood for 8 years, like kids I see when they know their parent isn't going to punish them no matter what. Do we think Libya would have spontaneously surrendered their nukes under at Dem presidency?

416 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:20:24pm

re: #410 jamgarr

What, no real estate?

I've already bought the bridge.

/several times

417 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:20:33pm

re: #339 buzzsawmonkey

I think you came close to hitting the nail when you wrote,

So why is that base outraged? Why are they protesting the cover? Is it from some lingering awareness that they are grossly out of step with the country, and that they must conceal their true feelings and aims in order to win in the fall?

I think the controversy comes from the fact that the New Yorker cover rips the facade off their true fantasies. When they see that cover, they are thrilled to the bone. They would love that exact scenario to happen. But at the same time, they know it "wouldn't fly" amongst the rednecks. So they wish that their fantasy be kept secret, at least until AFTER Obama has won the election.

It's the same feeling a pervert feels when his "flashing diary" is read aloud in court, detailing the thrills he felt when exposing himself in public. He is simultaneously titillated and humiliated. The Left is simultaneously excited and embarrassed by the New Yorker cartoon.

418 Russkilitlover  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:20:47pm

re: #382 buzzsawmonkey

So why is that base outraged? Why are they protesting the cover? Is it from some lingering awareness that they are grossly out of step with the country, and that they must conceal their true feelings and aims in order to win in the fall?

The cover is so blatantly provocative that it's like a double-negative. I really believe that the NYorker is laughing at the concerns about BHO by presenting them as a caricature. That way, when the issues and criticism come up again during the campaign, the unconscience response will be to dismiss the criticism as wacko.

419 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:20:56pm

re: #408 yochanan

My neighbor growing up was an old OSS hand from WWII who, we think, never really left. My folks told me that before the news of the missiles broke, a non-descript government sedan pulled up in front of the neighbor's house and he got in and drove off, carrying a small satchel. A week after the crisis ended, the same car dropped him off. My Dad said the only thing the old guy would say about where he had been was "Florida" and "don't ask why".

420 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:21:26pm
421 VegasRick  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:21:37pm

re: #382 buzzsawmonkey

If anyone feels up to responding to my #339, I'd be most grateful.

buzz, I think this "cover" is a double reverse, flea flicker, hook and ladder play. You could argue 6 different opinions but the fact that they put it on the cover, knowing the "attention" it would get (sell more mags, bury obambi and wab, make people (like me) who despise obambi look like obamaphobics - choose your option) plants a seed in the "drive by voter's mind".

422 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:21:38pm
423 tgibson1962  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:22:09pm

re: #415 Silhouette

Which brings up the question, what WOULD he draw the line at? I'm thinking despots and sudry assh*les around the globe are going to see what they can do to their neighborhood for 8 years, like kids I see when they know their parent isn't going to punish them no matter what. Do we think Libya would have spontaneously surrendered their nukes under at Dem presidency?

I'm not really sure he knows what a line is. Unless, of course, they printed an unflattering magazine cover of he and Michelle.

424 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:22:34pm

re: #417 zombie

I think you came close to hitting the nail when you wrote,


I think the controversy comes from the fact that the New Yorker cover rips the facade off their true fantasies. When they see that cover, they are thrilled to the bone. They would love that exact scenario to happen. But at the same time, they know it "wouldn't fly" amongst the rednecks. So they wish that their fantasy be kept secret, at least until AFTER Obama has won the election.

It's the same feeling a pervert feels when his "flashing diary" is read aloud in court, detailing the thrills he felt when exposing himself in public. He is simultaneously titillated and humiliated. The Left is simultaneously excited and embarrassed by the New Yorker cartoon.

Hmmm.
buzzsaw, I think zombie has the better of it than my #396.

425 So?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:23:02pm

The man is sending weapons (and maybe terrorists) into Iraq to kill Americans and all we can do is give him the red carpet? Sad.

I say send in the hookers.

426 islamofauxware  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:23:14pm

Dogs aside, to be serious, Ahmadinejad should simply be taken into custody where our law enforcement can sit down and discuss his threats against this country from threatening to "cut our hands off" to a litany of other rantings. It is beyond outrage to let him be on our soil - it is like having Hitler here only in this nut's case he has revealled more of his hand that Hitler did in the early stages...

427 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:23:20pm

re: #409 calcajun

I read somewhere that JFK was on stelazine in addition to his pain regimen. Stelazine is a neuroleptic. Wonder if his illness (hidden from the voters) made him less able to function.

428 So?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:24:09pm

Maybe the New Yorker should have waited and they could have had a threesome on their cover.

429 EC Marm  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:24:20pm

re: #379 tgibson1962

I
Conventional wisdom says that nuclear war would have erupted during the Cuban Missile Crisis had Nixon been in the White House. Actually, there probably wouldn't have been a crisis in the first place.


I really can't say what the perception of Muslims is or was in the Kremlin during that period of time. But the U.S. was in the process of placing ballistic nuclear missiles in Turkey when the whole crisis began. It would have been a short 15 minute trip from Turkey to Moscow. The Soviets responded by placing ballistic nuclear missiles in Cuba, a short 15 minute trip to NY or Washington, DC. With 20/20 hindsight that seems an enormously naive thing to do. Which is my number one reason I don't care to have some Junior Senator in the Oval Office. Experience and a knowledge of world affairs matters. This country is not some community event that we need a 'community activist' to oversee.

430 Pianobuff  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:27:01pm

re: #400 rgranger

[Link: origin.barackobama.com...]
[Link: www.searchengineshowdown.com...]

I will try these. Thank you kind person.

431 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:27:25pm

re: #427 SpartanWoman

Probably. I heard that he was pretty much out of it while he was in Vienna.

432 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:28:04pm
433 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:29:48pm

re: #425 So?

goat hookers?

434 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:31:01pm

re: #433 yochanan

New meaning of the term "nanny state"

435 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:32:08pm

re: #434 calcajun

did i say anything about female goats the short shit might like young male goats.

436 So?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:32:28pm

re: #433 yochanan

goat hookers?

I thought they were illegal in NYC....lol

437 alegrias  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:34:20pm

re: #429 EC Marm

I really can't say what the perception of Muslims is or was in the Kremlin during that period of time. But the U.S. was in the process of placing ballistic nuclear missiles in Turkey when the whole crisis began. It would have been a short 15 minute trip from Turkey to Moscow. The Soviets responded by placing ballistic nuclear missiles in Cuba, a short 15 minute trip to NY or Washington, DC. With 20/20 hindsight that seems an enormously naive thing to do. Which is my number one reason I don't care to have some Junior Senator in the Oval Office. Experience and a knowledge of world affairs matters. This country is not some community event that we need a 'community activist' to oversee.

* * *
Egypt and others were client states of USSR. Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt and even India were closer to the USSR than to neutrality.

438 So?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:34:28pm

re: #51 Diamond Bullet

At this rate, he's about to get tenure at Columbia.

I don't think the drug cartel likes him.

439 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:34:39pm

re: #436 So?

for the right amount of $$$ nothing is illegal

440 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:35:56pm

obama is the least quafied person to run for POTUS OR VPOTUS since spiro agnew.

441 So?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:36:09pm

re: #439 yochanan

for the right amount of $$$ nothing is illegal

ok...send in the goats. my problem is, he'll enjoy them too much.

442 bellamags  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:36:21pm

Well, there’s an opportunity for Barack Obama to have his first sit-down chat with Mahmoud. Wonder if Obama’s people are discussing the logistics yet with Mahmoud’s people?

The sad thing about that Charles is that it would probably give him a bump in the polls with the democrats if he did have a "chat".

443 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:38:02pm
444 calcajun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:38:19pm

re: #434 calcajun

Well, that's the secret of enduring sodomy; one must learn to never look back.

445 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:39:44pm

if he is having fun with the goats he will not have time to

446 Dianna  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:41:35pm

OT, simple venting:

I am paying my various insurance bills, and it hurts!

Swinging amounts!

OW!

I believe in insurance, and I deliberately set it up so that we'd have all the bills at once, but, just this instant, OW!

447 bellamags  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:41:56pm

re: #339 buzzsawmonkey

They overestimated the intelligence of their average left wing reader.

448 So?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:42:41pm

Didn't he address the UN last time with an opening prayer to hasten the appearance of the Mahdi during which all infidels will burn in hell... Allah willing. So> he wants Armageddon Islamo style. Shouldn't that little little prayer get him banned for life? Man no balls govt.

449 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:45:07pm

re: #448 So?

Shouldn't that little little prayer get him banned for life? Man no balls govt.

Funding and sending Iranians into Iraq that are killing US military during time of war might not be enough to get him banned, but maybe praying will be.

450 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:45:28pm

re: #298 Creeping Eruption

Follow-up: Not sure how the semi is going to get out either as it was in the lot when it dumped its load. ROFLMAO

Discount Dirt Delivery.

451 irongrampa  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:50:31pm

re: #408 yochanan

Old memories here. I was in USAEUR, attached to an Arty Gp, with the Redstone. we deployed, set up and were loaded, locked and authorized for whatever. All of us were scared shitless, since we were targeted, certainly. Not the best time to play in the woods, I guess.

452 pegcity  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:51:53pm

re: #448 So?

Didn't he address the UN last time with an opening prayer to hasten the appearance of the Mahdi during which all infidels will burn in hell... Allah willing. So> he wants Armageddon Islamo style. Shouldn't that little little prayer get him banned for life? Man no balls govt.

If the US gov had any balls the UN would have been moved to France long ago.

453 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:51:59pm

re: #443 buzzsawmonkey

For any so-called satirical bite, then, the drawing relies on either the explanatory writing (like the worst of contemporary art, which is less about the art itself than about the impenetrable essay explaining it), or upon the fatuous presumption that, if one is reading the New Yorker, one is part of a small select club of self-congratulatory individuals who all inhabit the same echo chamber.

That is exactly what is happening here. Echo-chamber politics. The New Yorker staff, steeped in a life-long marinade of self-congratulatory liberalism, are incapable of even visualizing someone who wouldn't "get" the cover in the way they intended it to be got -- making fun of the right-wingers' fantasies about Obama.

It's like they've become the living embodiment of the "urban provincialism" illuminated in the most famous New Yorker cover of all time -- the one in which the streets of Manhattan loom huge in the foreground, and the rest of the country is a tiny insignificant sliver in the distance.

454 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:52:07pm

re: #330 WrathofG-d

I was told by an Iranian friend of mine that Jews were not allowed to go outside in the rain in Iran for fear that the water would hit a Jew then bounce off and land on an Muslim.

They felt that this water connection between the Jew and the Muslim would "contaminate" the Muslim.

This might be another aspect to the refusal to swim that is being left out by the MSM.

Jewish water spray guns!

455 Coldpizza  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:53:04pm

Do you think he will be getting a Corn Beef and Rye at Carnegie Deli or maybe checking out a music set with Woody Allan?

456 debutaunt  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:53:49pm

re: #335 Iron Fist

,

Pardon me, but looking back on it (and not having lived it) I fail to see how Kennedy was such a great President. He fucked up the Bay of Pigs, almost had a nuclear exchange in the Cuban Missile Crises, and started Vietnam. Then he was assassinated.

This is not a record of grand achievement. I guess it could have been worse. Khrushchev could have nuked us.

The media then loved him.

457 So?  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:56:28pm

re: #452 pegcity

If the US gov had any balls the UN would have been moved to France long ago.

I agree with you 110%!

458 DHIMMIPOWER  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:59:12pm

Thinking of a cartoom ;-)

Draw Amenadoodad and Obamie smiling and Fist-Bunting, like on the New Yorker cover out today!

Obamie is starting to make McCain, look like George Washington.

459 Dustyvet  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 2:59:14pm

re: #231 Ojoe

good neckties for Mr. Dinnerjacket
You will see


A better neck tie for Dinner Jacket...


[Link: www.richard.clark32.btinternet.co.uk...]

460 Dustyvet  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:04:08pm

re: #24 MandyManners

Like this one?


He's on a stool...BOOT!


[Link: www.richard.clark32.btinternet.co.uk...]

461 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:08:53pm
462 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:10:04pm
463 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:14:08pm

re: #462 buzzsawmonkey

Succinctly: All of human history can be summarized as the quest for non-locally grown food.

464 Kulhwch  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:22:06pm

Where's Bob Lee Swagger, Matthew Quigley, or Thomas Beckett when you need them?

}:)     [Anyone want to kick in on airfare?]

465 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:22:11pm
466 runrabbitrun  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:22:41pm

re: #453 zombie


It's like they've become the living embodiment of the "urban provincialism" illuminated in the most famous New Yorker cover of all time -- the one in which the streets of Manhattan loom huge in the foreground, and the rest of the country is a tiny insignificant sliver in the distance.

As a former NY'er, I can verify that world view.

You see that dynamic when you go to parties attended by the 'upper classes' in the northeast, specifically yuppies & academics. When you are introduced, before they even know your politics, they will make negative references to right-wing views or politicians, and positive ones about liberals. They cannot imagine that anyone mingling in the circles of intelligentsia could possibly have any other perspective.

"I can't imagine how Nixon got elected! None of my friends voted for him!"

467 imtoast  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:23:20pm

re: #64 pingjockey

OT; I gotta ask, what is with lurkers going to dead threads, or almost dead and dinging down comments? Plus some of these 'dingers' never post. WTF?

I rarely post but I do ding, though very, very rarely do I ding down. I don't post much because what I was going to say has already been said much better than I could say it.

468 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:33:54pm

re: #465 buzzsawmonkey

Yes. And today we have blatherers who want us to revert to the status of hunter-gatherers.

Some of them are even completely open about it:

PaleoDiet.com
The Paleolithic Diet Page
What the Hunter/Gatherers Ate

469 DoubleU  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:34:19pm

No Obama, that isn't a camel, that's my wife!

470 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:37:58pm

re: #466 runrabbitrun

As a former NY'er, I can verify that world view.

You see that dynamic when you go to parties attended by the 'upper classes' in the northeast, specifically yuppies & academics. When you are introduced, before they even know your politics, they will make negative references to right-wing views or politicians, and positive ones about liberals. They cannot imagine that anyone mingling in the circles of intelligentsia could possibly have any other perspective.

"I can't imagine how Nixon got elected! None of my friends voted for him!"

I have the same experience here in the San Francisco Bay Area. Except it's a little more extreme. "This chardonnay is excellent. After the Revolution, we'll only drink locally grown chardonnay."

471 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:39:19pm

re: #463 zombie

Succinctly: All of human history can be summarized as the quest for non-locally grown food.

And comfortable footwear.

472 zombie  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:41:25pm

re: #471 Silhouette

And comfortable footwear.

...and a warm place to --

...

...Wait, that's different joke. Sorry.

473 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:50:26pm

re: #470 zombie

evanston ill could be in the upper east side or san fran. i remember after bush won in 04 that i enjoyed the looks i got with my pro bush sweet shirt.

474 DeathtotheSwiss  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:50:31pm

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Another chance for his plane to mysteriously disappear from radar over the North Atlantic.

Or how about a rogue conservative assassin? Lemme check my schedule.

475 yochanan  Mon, Jul 14, 2008 3:52:08pm

re: #468 zombie

Some of them are even completely open about it:

PaleoDiet.com