Ron Paul!

Who's in charge of Fox, and why are they trying to go down the road to CNNville?

I hear that Ralph Nader, Gary Bauer, David Duke and Jesse Jackson are available. They could do a roundtable discussion.

It would be named [deleted].

No, no ,no, this is just wrong! Goober cannot have is own show.
I have never forgiven him, for ganging up with McCain on Romney.

Now on Hannity's show: scumbag prostitute-biter Dick Morris.

Internet based information is where it's at. TV is for losers.

Let me guess; he'll come out in a red and white vertically striped coat with red pants and a red, white and blue straw hat and do some jokes and patter and then get down to the serious business of separating cash from the rubes in the audience.

Why? Why? Why? Why? What does this fool have to say?

Well you never know. Gretta and Jeraldo are bid Dem's they have shows, and Ingram and now this morron. (sigh) They must need rating from the far wacko right.

re: #5 Charles

Now on Hannity's show: scumbag prostitute-biter Dick Morris.

I like little Dickie. Much better than Third Reich's all right with me Buchanan...

The slow demise of FOX. How sad.

The Mike, Ron, and Pat Show? Shouldn't that be on the Fox network and not the Fox News network? After all they are three hams.

What Fox really needs is more babes.

TV

The vast wasteland

re: #5 Charles

Now, now. Haven't we learned a lot from his inside-the-clinton-presidency gut-spilling? Hey C.I.'s are very useful. You just have to ignore the drool and not get too close and take a good long shower after you have to deal with them.

As I've stated before- fox has become a parody of itself. IMO- it's become a home to the less than desirable of the right and I'm personally glad I don't support them anymore.

re: #13 Paul

What Fox really needs is more babes.

They're all scared of Dick Morris, with good reason.

Better for him to have a show on Fox. At least I can ignore the show. If he was VP then there would be a problem.

re: #11 Hard Right

The slow demise of FOX. How sad.

It's all about the money. And power. But mostly money.

Who am I kidding, it's always always about the money.

Of course he's getting his own show.

Chuck said so.

Dick Morris is another regular on Hannity, and his primary redeeming feature is his dislike of the Clintons. Too bad he helped make 'em what they were - and did nothing to stop 'em on the way up.

At night (the only time I turn the TV on) I use the TV as a sleep aid.

I find morning shows ("Today show", "the View" etc..) the most depressing. Is it any wonder Americans a kinda dumb? Is there anything more depressing that Matt Lauer? Just venting.

Hey ya'll, my former governor will do alright as a talking head. He will do what TV pundits are supposed to do: piss off lots of people and attract people who enjoy seeing other people getting pissed off.

He will be O'Reilly's "nicer brother".

Faux sux.

Tonight on the Dick Morris show my very good friend Marv Alberts...

Well, I'm not exactly sure where all of the Lizard hatred for Huckabee is coming from, but I don't see this as being too outrageous. Certainly, I think a guy like the Huckabee would be better suited to the role of "pundit," or what have you, but even though I don't agree with him on everything, I do recognize that he is very personable, and very likable.

I know that there is little that can be said for some of the gaffes he has made (the Obama joke being chief among them), but I guess I don't fully understand the initial vehemence by Charles and everyone else who has responded. No big deal, of course. I'm just curious.

re: #5 Charles

He bit prostitutes too?

re: #16 Sharmuta

As I've stated before- fox has become a parody of itself. IMO- it's become a home to the less than desirable of the right and I'm personally glad I don't support them anymore.

Starting to think that's not an accident. That way they can destroy Fox while discrediting the "right".
Keep in mind that Murdoch's son is in line to take over and FWIU has gradually been influencing more and more of their decisions.

Huckabee, who lasted longer than any of the major GOP presidential contenders this year except, of course, for McCain, says on his blog that he's in New York City this week to talk with Fox News executives about hosting a show on the network.

HAHAHA.

Not when you're the last guy at the party who WON'T F'ING LEAVE.

re: #25 NY Nana

Faux sux.

Nana- I really have to wonder now if they're a moby network. They seem to want to do nothing but present right wing whacks and scuzballs. And this ends up reflecting on everyday republicans because fox makes it so easy these days for the left to smear us all with the fox news brush.

re: #28 eastvillageinfidel

He bit prostitutes too?

I thought that was Marv Albert.

re: #26 unclassifiable

Tonight on the Dick Morris show my very good friend Marv Alberts...

Dick Morris has such a pathological hatred of the Clintons, pariularly Hillary. Problem is, he fit right in until he didn"t.

If Fox needs a lesson in how this will go, follow three years worth of ratings trend for the Joe Scarborough show.

Are You Smarter Than A Darwinist?

re: #32 Hard Right

Me too.

re: #28 eastvillageinfidel

He bit prostitutes too?

Yeah - I guess I don't know all there is to know about Dick Morris.
I had no idea he bit a prostitute. I appreciate anyone who came to loathe the Clinton's - and he sure did.

re: #29 Hard Right

That way they can destroy Fox while discrediting the "right".

DING! That's why I'm starting to think they're mobys.

re: #27 BGOH

Hatred? Not me. I just think he's a phony.

Dick's a political prostitute so that biting thing was probably just professional jealousy.

re: #27 BGOH

It's not hatred, it's criticism.

Yet another reason why I rarely watch FNC

re: #39 jcw46

Hatred? Not me. I just think he's a phony.

Well, if that's the case, why do you watch television news in the first place? LOL

re: #37 FrogMarch

Well, maybe it's better we don't know..... Yeesh.

re: #38 Sharmuta

DING! That's why I'm starting to think they're mobys.

On the other hand maybe they are taking a page from the KOS book. Becoming so extreme right that Fred Thompson looks Moderate?

Yawn. Guess I'll watch The Outlaw Josey Wales again...

re: #2 lawhawk

Who's in charge of Fox, and why are they trying to go down the road to CNNville?

I'd assume the owners are. Majority owner a gentleman named Rupert Murdoch.

I believe that one of the Saudi princelings also owns part. Don't remember the name. Not Bin Laden, as far as I know.

How much of Fox News is owned by Arabs?
Enough to where they pulled a CarBQ line about Muslims being involved within 20 minutes of Paris' first burning.

Morris was the inspiration for the Martin Short character in "Mars Attacks."

And now he's all over Fox News as an expert.

House of Worship,
a take-off from the medical drama House,
with a clean and articulate protagonist who solves people's problems by staying with them too long so they're really happy again when he finally goes away.

re: #31 Sharmuta

Nana- I really have to wonder now if they're a moby network. They seem to want to do nothing but present right wing whacks and scuzballs. And this ends up reflecting on everyday republicans because fox makes it so easy these days for the left to smear us all with the fox news brush.

Moby News. "fair and balanced" could Soros be far behind?

re: #38 Sharmuta

DING! That's why I'm starting to think they're mobys.

Maybe they feel guilty that they have "hurt" America? Perhaps it's a type of penance?
Don't be surprised if after FOX tanks it get's sold off or becomes another CNN.
Yes it would possibly cost the Murdoch's millions, but that's pocket change to them.

re: #45 Thanos

On the other hand maybe they are taking a page from the KOS book. Becoming so extreme right that Fred Thompson looks Moderate?

I'll say this - if Fox News is looking to go "hard right," then Huckabee isn't a guy to do it with. The primary reason that I opposed him in the primary was because he is nowhere near the logical "right." He isn't a conservative, and never was, despite his evangelical background.

I'm one of the few folks here that kinda likes Huckabee. Granted, I'm glad he isn't the GOP candidate, and that he isn't at the top of the VP list (I still like Micheal Steele for veep) but I could see Huckabee in a cabinet position or a undersecretary in some dept like Education or Interior

re: #43 BGOH

Entertainment!

Just like when I used to read the NYT -- to find out what the LIES were going to be that day. After awhile it got to be too predictable.

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

It's not hatred, it's criticism.

I'm curious what criticism? I thought I watched the campaign fairly closely and I'm not sure at what point in the campaign that Huckabee would have crossed a line to be compared to Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul. I'm certainly not a Huckabee fan for several policy stances but don't understand this grouping.

re: #45 Thanos

On the other hand maybe they are taking a page from the KOS book. Becoming so extreme right that Fred Thompson looks Moderate?

But this has been slowly going on for years, Thanos. I first noticed it one morning when they had both Nancy Pelosi and Ted Danson on fox & friends. I thought, "WTF?" I can watch the today show for that crap. So I stopped watching f&f and it slowly built up to me not watching anything but Brit Hume. Then- I decided to quit paying for cable, although I'll say that Brit became less interesting when I realized I'd already read most of his news at LGF.

I still think they're a parody of themselves, and it will be hard to convince me otherwise.

American Iconoclast
Host Mike Huckleberry meets with the losers of American Idol and helps them through rehab and rebuilding their lives.

re: #49 Charles

Heh, and here I thought that Tim Burton used Ahmadinejad as a template for the Martian leader. Maybe we need to play Slim Whitman to put Ahmadinejad out to pasture.

re: #55 jcw46

Entertainment!

Just like when I used to read the NYT -- to find out what the LIES were going to be that day. After awhile it got to be too predictable.

Oh, you poor, poor thing, you. I'm glad you stopped!

I say fine to Huckabee - at least that means he's not McCain's running mate? But Fox needs to ditch Pat Buchanan and tell O Reilly to stop acting so self-absorbed all the time. Not that I watch. I can't stand any news channel. They are all some variety of suckage.

re: #56 ornery elephant

I'm curious what criticism? I thought I watched the campaign fairly closely and I'm not sure at what point in the campaign that Huckabee would have crossed a line to be compared to Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul. I'm certainly not a Huckabee fan for several policy stances but don't understand this grouping.

That's not criticism, that's joking. The grouping? They're all kooks.

re: #47 razorbacker

I'd assume the owners are. Majority owner a gentleman named Rupert Murdoch.

I believe that one of the Saudi princelings also owns part. Don't remember the name. Not Bin Laden, as far as I know.

re: #48 mean Gene

A real Prince of a fellow.

Fox News is getting ready to give Mike Huckabee his own show.

I hear Pat Buchanan is free, too. And Ron Paul needs some more exposure.

I can see why some socialists whine about "surplus capital." Loose money looking for something to do can be used to establish means of circumventing the Leftist monopoly on the dissemination of news and opinion.

Fox News was good, but now they've blown it.

Yeah Sharm, how's that song go?

" Clowns to the left, jokers to the right..."

Huckabee in my opinion is a major nose bleed. He & McCain ganged up on Romney during the debates like two school yard brats.
Look what we have now.
I admire somebody of faith, but keep it to yourself.

Fox is really going after the toothless hillbilly demographic. They've already got Geraldo for the open boarders crowd and Gretchen in the morning representing dumb blonde housewives. I've gotten so I'll only watch Brit Hume, and occasionally Bill Hemmer and Megyn Kelly in mid-morning.

The source must be considered and points deducted accordingly.

Last night's (12/13/05) Hannity & Colmes included a critical look at Saudi Prince Al-waleed bin Talal's large donations to two top US universities. Hannity and author Richard Miniter slimed the schools by saying, without offering any sources or facts to back up the claim, that the donations were evidence of anti-Americanism on campus. Meanwhile, everybody seemed to overlook the fact that the same prince is a large stockholder of FOX News parent company, News Corporation. Also overlooked were the recent allegations that, at the request of the prince, FOX News changed its news reporting to make it more Muslim-friendly.

I don't know if that's still the case.

It's the Dennis Kucinich Show, on MSNBC!

re: #5 Charles

Now on Hannity's show: scumbag prostitute-biter Dick Morris.

what, I thought Brent Mussburger was the only one that bit hoes

I just wish there was a venue on TV where issues could be discussed in a non-gotcha- and here's-your-93-seconds-before-the-commercial-break -type of way. PBS, despite a few good programs here and there, is generally way too biased and shies away from anything that would offend multicultural sentiments makes PBS toothless. Once PBS hosted Bill Buckley's firing line, which had its moments of "mucha lucha" but always delved into stubstance.

Didn't like Huck, too folksy and talkative, but those are good qualities in a TV interviewer. Can anyone be worse than Geraldo?

re: #5 Charles

Now on Hannity's show: scumbag prostitute-biter Dick Morris.

I thought Marv Albert was the biter and Dick Morris was the sucker.

/a sentence I never thought I'd ever have reason to type!

They don't call television the "idiot box" for nothing.

Newt Gingrich needs a damn show.

On a scale of 1 to 10, Huckabee is a 5, Ron Paul a 1, and Buchanan a 0.

Fox could do worse. They could also do a lot better.

re: #6 FrogMarch

I have not watched TV for 6 months and I don't miss it ......

And Ron Paul needs some more exposure.

...to Thorazine.

re: #31 Sharmuta

I really have to wonder now if they're a moby network. They seem to want to do nothing but present right wing whacks and scuzballs. And this ends up reflecting on everyday republicans because fox makes it so easy these days for the left to smear us all with the fox news brush.

Sharm,

You have described them in a nutshell.

But when Girly Man Colmes opens his mouth? And they love Sharpton and a bunch of trouble makers. I now seldom watch. I did watch the Bloviator, as he had tributes to Tony Snow, and went after the Associated Press for their evil comments that were beyond the Pale in the 'obituary' they posted. He also went after the governors in States like MA, VT, NJ, and a few others for their lack of any real laws that protect children from rape, abuse, etc. He was ferocious.

But otherwise? I rarely watch at all, and watch Glenn Beck at 9 PM.

Fox was once really great. How low it has fallen! I would probably point at Murdoch. Most of their 'guests' scream at each other...not great TV.

'Fair and Balanced'? Ha! I can't think of one true Republican who now anchors. Can anyone?

re: #65 Thanos

Stuck In The Middle With You

There's worse places to be. ;)

I'm not a Huckabite. I often wander through my house moaning "Oh, Fred, why'd ya have to go?" That being said, Huckabee isn't even on the same side of the nutzometer as Pat & Ron.

Just what Fox needs- Huckabee and Buchanan.

Good move, reinforcing the stereotype of ass backward idiot racists and the religious right influencing a news outlet.

re: #82 tgibson1962

I'm not a Huckabite. I often wander through my house moaning "Oh, Fred, why'd ya have to go?" That being said, Huckabee isn't even on the same side of the nutzometer as Pat & Ron.

He's not a nut, but he is an empty suit.

re: #56 ornery elephant

I'm curious what criticism? I thought I watched the campaign fairly closely and I'm not sure at what point in the campaign that Huckabee would have crossed a line to be compared to Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul. I'm certainly not a Huckabee fan for several policy stances but don't understand this grouping.

I agree with your feelings about Huckabee's policies. Charles has a jones for bashing creationists lately, I suppose Huck must be one. I'm reasonably sold on evolution myself, although it is still missing some key proofs.

for perspective - no matter how lame Fox News is, some big wig prog TV executive thought it was a good idea to give Keith Olbermann a show.

re: #77 WhiteRasta

I haven't had a t.v. for 3 years. The only thing I miss are baseball games.

re: #75 DeathtotheSwiss

Newt Gingrich needs a damn show.

"Sell out Gingrich"? No thanks. He's spent too much time in the university and the liberals rotted his brain.

re: #72 snowcrash

re: #72 snowcrash

....."Can anyone be worse than Geraldo?....."

Yes. The throbbing fake memo dude. I forgot his name.....

VDH needs a show!

I nominate this person for a Fox show

Very funny.....
New key swing-voter bloc identified

re: #85 wvobiwan

I agree with your feelings about Huckabee's policies. Charles has a jones for bashing creationists lately...

Got a quote handy to back that up?

re: #91 Adrenalyn

I nominate this person for a Fox show

Only if she is informed & relevant. Kidding, who cares?

re: #84 opnion

I just got out my emptysuitometer. You're right.

re: #80 NY Nana

I think that Brit Hume is for the most part Republican. But I have a tough time taking the rest very seriously.

re: #90 Sharmuta

That would be great but we have to have interactive two way cable TV so that they can check your IQ before you watched.

re: #3 lawhawk

I hear that Ralph Nader, Gary Bauer, David Duke and Jesse Jackson are available. They could do a roundtable discussion.

It would be named [deleted].

F*cks & Friends?

re: #95 tgibson1962

I just got out my emptysuitometer. You're right.

Your Honor, I rest my case.

Here's the complete Bill Buckley "interview" of Noam Chomsky on PBS' Firing Line in 1969.

My kingdom for another Bill Buckley and for a PBS that put on this kind of discussion/debate. Charlie Rose is a sycophant who is only marginally more probing and confrontational than Jay Leno compared to Buckley.

re: #87 eastvillageinfidel

The best thing about internet access is that I get to choose what I view....

The dinosaur media is so passe.....

re: #84 opnion

He's not a nut, but he is an empty suit.

... and? So are most of the talking heads on TV. I don't put Huckabee anywhere near the same category as Buchanan [anti-semitism & hitler love]... or Olbermann [rampant hypocrisy & obama luuuuvvv] for that matter.

He-yuk-abee is the liberal's wet-dream. He's got a stupid name and was separated from Gomer Pyle at birth. When he speaks it sounds like they need a banjo playing foggy mountain breakdown in the background.

McCain wasn't much better with that insane fake smile at the end of his sentences that are like: "I'm going to smile now, there, I am smiling"

We need to re-animate Reagan.

Reaganstein, that's what the world needs.

Even with the babes. I don't really watch Fox anymore.

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Very funny.....
New key swing-voter bloc identified

Mmmm...nihilicious.

re: #100 Purple Prose

Charlie Rose is a sycophant who is only marginally more probing and confrontational than Jay Leno compared to Buckley.

Hey, I think Rose has it right, and confrontational is seldom if ever the job of a neutral interviewer.

I think ole Huck has found his milieu. Now if he replaces Greta VanGhoul I'm all over it.

re: #104 Noam Sayin'

Even with the babes. I don't really watch Fox anymore.

*sniff*

re: #77 WhiteRasta

I have not watched TV for 6 months and I don't miss it ......

You're a better person than I. although I'm switching down to basic cable so I won't receive Fox News anymore. I need TBS as old episodes of bad sitcoms to help sleep. it's a sickness.

FOX's cordless bungee jump into oblivion continues. "Next on FOX it's the Medea Benjamin show!"

Hey, I've got an idea.

What if there was a news organization that reported the news in such a manner that you couldn't tell what political party they belonged to?

I wonder what that would look like?

I like my news the same way I like my whiskey.

Straight. Maybe with a little water on the side.

re: #106 itellu3times

Hey, I think Rose has it right, and confrontational is seldom if ever the job of a neutral interviewer.

This attitude allows BHO and his ilk to run rough-shod over the media.

re: #108 MandyManners

*sniff*

Sleepin' on the couch again, aren't I?

re: #100 Purple Prose

Here's the complete Bill Buckley "interview" of Noam Chomsky on PBS' Firing Line in 1969.

[Link: video.google.com...]

My kingdom for another Bill Buckley and for a PBS that put on this kind of discussion/debate. Charlie Rose is a sycophant who is only marginally more probing and confrontational than Jay Leno compared to Buckley.

Buckley's are made not born. I just afraid it'll take an Obama presidency to mint another one.

re: #102 stevieray

... and? So are most of the talking heads on TV. I don't put Huckabee anywhere near the same category as Buchanan [anti-semitism & hitler love]... or Olbermann [rampant hypocrisy & obama luuuuvvv] for that matter.

I agree with that . But is the bar so low that if you are not Buchanan or Olberman, that you get a show? Hell, I am not either one of those guys. Where's my show?

re: #109 FrogMarch

The internet is so much more fun and informative......

re: #80 NY Nana

Back in the day, fox was the only network carrying the clinton impeachment hearings. That's what used to make them stand out. Now what makes them stand out is their openness to giving airtime to screwballs.

In the last several years I had noticed that FNC was doing a slow circling down the drain, but this changes it to a quick flush. I am finding less and less reasons other than DVDs to even bother keeping that big box in the corner.

re: #107 The Shadow Do

I think ole Huck has found his milieu.

Just preaching from a taller pulpit.

re: #111 razorbacker

I like my news the same way I like my whiskey.

Straight. Maybe with a little water on the side.

Heathen.

The LGF News Channel.

i could listen to charles krauthammer all day!

I would rather Chuck Norris to the huckabuck, at least he killed terrorists and slept with hollywood hotties while smoking big-ole fat stogies and drinking Schlitz like it was goin outa style.

re: #111 razorbacker

Hey, I've got an idea.

What if there was a news organization that reported the news in such a manner that you couldn't tell what political party they belonged to?

I wonder what that would look like?

I like my news the same way I like my whiskey.

Straight. Maybe with a little water on the side.

Ah, for the good ol' days of the partisan press.

re: #117 Sharmuta

Isn't Fox owned by the ROP types, these days?

(Your oil dollars at work?)

re: #121 Tarkus289

The LGF News Channel.

Get The Real story 3 days before everybody else gets the bullshit.

re: #113 Noam Sayin'

Sleepin' on the couch again, aren't I?

Your pillow is already there. So's your toothbrush. And, your blankie.

Later Lizards.

re: #123 ypnxjkb

I would rather Chuck Norris to the huckabuck, at least he killed terrorists and slept with hollywood hotties while smoking big-ole fat stogies and drinking Schlitz like it was goin outa style.

Chuck Norris does not do pushups. He pushes the Earth down.

Oooo. Maybe it will be one of those crazy Japanese game shows. Or celebrity boxing. That would be news!

re: #116 WhiteRasta

And not as many commercials for junk food. I was at a friends house and it was one big oozing drippy grease bomb after another. I like cheeseburgers as much as the next girl, but it kinda grossed me out.

re: #96 Dahveed

I think that Brit Hume is for the most part Republican. But I have a tough time taking the rest very seriously.

Yes! I forgot him, darn it. He is the real thing, and manages to be a mensch at the same time.

The rest? Sad. And Geraldo? [deleted}

Hummm... Chelsie Clinton should have her own show too. Maybe an hour or two durring primetime to BALANCE out Huckabee.

re: #124 MandyManners

Ah, for the good ol' days of the partisan press.

Why couldn't we have a partisan press on the airwaves? Would that not be an example of the marketplace of ideas?

If fox really wanted to be daring- they'd let Mandy and I co-host a show together. Of course, with Mandy as a co-host, we'd have to pay the guy inserting the BEEP overtime.

Folks, I think there is something important that has been missed: Huck is only TALKING about a show on FNC. It isn't like this is a done deal. Isn't all the FNC 'going down the drain' talk a bit premature?

re: #65 Thanos

Yeah Sharm, how's that song go?

" Clowns to the left, jokers to the right..."

"Shadows to the left of me, Vorlons to the right, here I am,
Stuck on the station with you..."

re: #111 razorbacker

Hey, I've got an idea.

What if there was a news organization that reported the news in such a manner that you couldn't tell what political party they belonged to?

I wonder what that would look like?

I like my news the same way I like my whiskey.

Straight. Maybe with a little water on the side.

I would prefer having all organizations be REQUIRED up-front to disclose their party affiliation. At least with the press and newspapers during the early days of this country you knew what you were getting, straight up partisan slant.

re: #124 MandyManners

Ah, for the good ol' days of the partisan press.

At least in the ol' days when you read the Lower Jethro Democrat or Pickles Gap Republican you kind of had an idea what swamp you were swimming in.

re: #135 Sharmuta

If fox really wanted to be daring- they'd let Mandy and I co-host a show together. Of course, with Mandy as a co-host, we'd have to pay the guy inserting the BEEP overtime.

I'll have you know that I can control my tongue. What do you think I am? A fucking barbarian?

re: #27 BGOH

Well, I'm not exactly sure where all of the Lizard hatred for Huckabee is coming from, but I don't see this as being too outrageous. Certainly, I think a guy like the Huckabee would be better suited to the role of "pundit," or what have you, but even though I don't agree with him on everything, I do recognize that he is very personable, and very likable.

I know that there is little that can be said for some of the gaffes he has made (the Obama joke being chief among them), but I guess I don't fully understand the initial vehemence by Charles and everyone else who has responded. No big deal, of course. I'm just curious.

I'll refresh your memory. He decided to go negative against Romney and then called a press conference to say: 'Here' all my negative ad stuff, but I want you to officially report that I'm not using all this negative stuff that you can all see right here.' It was slimey, and it was lame.

Then he made the absurd comment about Romny's religion: 'doesn't it beleive that Satan and Jesus are brothers (no!)...so I've heard...but I wouldn't know.' He failed to mention that he was a keynote speaker at an anti-mormon baptist convention held in Salt Lake City. The squirrel eater is has a BA degree in theology, and never finished his master's degree, but thought he could run for president. He and his wife set up an illegal "marriage registry" so donors could buy them furniture after they left the governor's mansion. On and on it goes.

Something in the water in Arkansas.

re: #127 MandyManners

Your pillow is already there. So's your toothbrush. And, your blankie.

You sure are nicer than my ex ever was. She would hide all that.

re: #138 FurryOldGuyJeans

GMTA

re: #139 razorbacker

At least in the ol' days when you read the Lower Jethro Democrat or Pickles Gap Republican you kind of had an idea what swamp you were swimming in.

Kind of? Heck, it was smack-dab in your face.

re: #117 Sharmuta

Back in the day, fox was the only network carrying the clinton impeachment hearings. That's what used to make them stand out. Now what makes them stand out is their openness to giving airtime to screwballs.

+++++ for you, as I could only give you one.

Yes, that was their time to shine, but now, the light has pretty well burned out.

re: #115 opnion

I agree with that . But is the bar so low that if you are not Buchanan or Olberman, that you get a show? Hell, I am not either one of those guys. Where's my show?

Its not so much about where the bar is set, but about what works. If Huckabee is charming and asks interesting questions then he'll be a success. If he's a goober, he'll fail.

That is the test. "Setting the bar" by the MSM is a way of keeping non-lefties out of the mix -- demanding some sort of degree from a J-school or credentials from a newsroom will exclude pretty much anybody to the right of Fidel.

re: #142 FurryOldGuyJeans

You sure are nicer than my ex ever was. She would hide all that.

I once scrubbed the ENTIRE bathroom with the X's toothbrush.

re: #143 razorbacker

In my case perverted would be a bit closer to the truth than great.

re: #140 MandyManners

I'll have you know that I can control my tongue. What do you think I am? A fucking barbarian?

You rock!

re: #147 MandyManners

I once scrubbed the ENTIRE bathroom with the X's toothbrush.

I won't bother telling you what I found my ex scrubbed with my toothbrush, repeatedly, then. Let's just say I had one for her to abuse and one hidden on my person for me to use.

re: #5 Charles

Now on Hannity's show: scumbag prostitute-biter Dick Morris.

Morris is much more typical of a democrat like Bechtel: creepy, slimy ugly man.

What a contrast to handsome charismatic, honest, decent Tony Snow.

The good die young.

How has Fox sunk so low? They have all the ratings and don't need to give Huckabee, Buchanon, Sharpton, etc... a damn minute of air time.

re: #140 MandyManners

I'll have you know that I can control my tongue. What do you think I am? A fucking barbarian?

I do not see what is so wrong with someone who will say exactly what is on their mind. False sociability is so much worse than being blunt.

Mandy, I think I am in love. ;)

re: #5 Charles

Dick Morris is one of the more interesting pundits on the circuit.

As for Huckabee's show, it's hard to tell the difference between Huckabee and Stephen Colbert. Except one of them is being serious and the other is a comedian.

re: #112 MandyManners

This attitude allows BHO and his ilk to run rough-shod over the media.

You ever watch Rose? I don't recall anyone running roughshod over him in any direction. Frankly, I suppose he just spikes any interview he attempts where that happens.

Rose is off his game somewhat the last year or two, but I still make him by FAR the best interviewer on TV today. Who do you think does any better?

re: #148 buzzsawmonkey

That's because they didn't use long-life screw-in fluorescents

/green lunacy off

Oy! ;)

For anyone who has the strength to read this shit, here is al_ AP's hate screed 'obituary for Tony Snow. The email of the head of al_AP is there, as O'Reilly was really upset about this: the wonderful Mr. Snow sat in for him on O'Reilly's radio show, and was a friend.

I choose not to print out the words.

Any network that employs Geraldo Rivera...

re: #5 Charles

Charles -

That is "TOE BITER" as I remember. Other than that Morris has become comic relief with an accuracy of prediction level about equal to Kos.

-S-

re: #159 Dr. Shalit

Reply to Self -

AND - as to the "Huckster" - Gotta Make a Living, NO?

-S-

re: #106 itellu3times

Hey, I think Rose has it right, and confrontational is seldom if ever the job of a neutral interviewer.

A neutral interviewer will never get anything new out of an interviewee. A neutral interviewer is part of the celebrity PR machine. No tough questions. No probing and prodding of the interviewee. I would argue that a good interviewer is not neutral or at least is an equal-opportunity grand inquisitor, asking real questions and not fluff.

Jay Leno gets great booking because celebrities and their publicists know he will not deviate from script. It's commerce. The interviewers are celebrities and want to maintain their status and they want the celebrity guests that bring in the highest ratings. Maybe it was always like that on the "networks," although in the 50s Edward R. Murrow's Person to Person on CBS was a bit more real.

Charlie Rose interviews a broader range of people than Leno or Letterman. It's a longer discussion. It's PBS. It can be interesting. Some new things can be learned. But he never asks tough questions. He is always full of praise and love. Charlie Rose never really has an opinion, except that it's great and wonderful.

A good interviewer should ask tough questions and should draw the person on the couch or chair out a bit. Bill Buckley had a conservative viewpoint yet he didn't have an agenda. He pressed and prodded but didn't pontificate, like most of the talking heads on TV, including Fox.

One other failing of Charlie Rose is that he is often out of his depth. He pretends to be worldly and well-read and knowledgeable, but his understanding is often limited. He is simply not the intellect Bill Buckley was.

Charlie Rose is, nonetheless, probably the best there is in terms of TV interviewers because everything else is so bad.

Here is James Watson and E.O Wilson discussing Darwin on Charlie Rose. It would have been more interesting with a more in-charge and opinionated interviewer, but in this case since it's a dialog between two scientists, it's pretty interesting.

How about Paris Hilton as a political commentator? If the show gets boring, they can always have her sit "carelessly."

re: #160 taxfreekiller

"tfk" -

AND - for what it is/was worth - Tony Snow was a CNN Employee when he died. Alan Colmes is for Fox what Tony would have been for CNN - and I think Tony would have eventually done it better, properly slotted. What I am saying comes naturally in the world of music. For every POINT there is a COUNTERPOINT - usually played diminuendo.

-S-

Please. Not VPOTUS.

re: #114 tgibson1962

Buckley's are made not born. I just afraid it'll take an Obama presidency to mint another one.

Firing Line started in 1966, so, yeah, it was the context. But two things are different: Bill Buckley was a unique guy and PBS at the time wasn't flaccid piece of crud it is now. I predict that PBS during the Obama administration (God forbid) will be the same as it is now: a few good nature and science programs and a bunch of multicultural/PC flab. An emerging new Buckley now or in the future would just be taken to court, as Mark Steyn was, before s/he got to any position of prominence.

The only conservatives who survive in the MSM nowadays are sound-bite experts who are more entertainers than anything else. They get there because they get ratings, either from people loving them or hating them. A more subtle and nuanced conservative doesn't have a chance. I suppose the same holds true for subtle and nuanced liberals. You wouldn't see an Edward R. Murrow, who was a liberal, on TV now anymore than you would another Bill Buckley, I suppose.

re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

According to the Huck, he's not even been vetted. Another bullet dodged.

Sarah Palin is the best pick. Brings in both the naughty librarians and those who love them.

re: #103 docremulac

Dude, that was funny.

re: #166 Purple Prose

Firing Line started in 1966, so, yeah, it was the context. But two things are different: Bill Buckley was a unique guy and PBS at the time wasn't flaccid piece of crud it is now. I predict that PBS during the Obama administration (God forbid) will be the same as it is now: a few good nature and science programs and a bunch of multicultural/PC flab. An emerging new Buckley now or in the future would just be taken to court, as Mark Steyn was, before s/he got to any position of prominence.

The only conservatives who survive in the MSM nowadays are sound-bite experts who are more entertainers than anything else. They get there because they get ratings, either from people loving them or hating them. A more subtle and nuanced conservative doesn't have a chance. I suppose the same holds true for subtle and nuanced liberals. You wouldn't see an Edward R. Murrow, who was a liberal, on TV now anymore than you would another Bill Buckley, I suppose.

Sadly, I agree. WFB was anything but an entertainer, at least intentionally.

re: #157 NY Nana

Oy! ;)

For anyone who has the strength to read this shit, here is al_ AP's hate screed 'obituary for Tony Snow. The email of the head of al_AP is there, as O'Reilly was really upset about this: the wonderful Mr. Snow sat in for him on O'Reilly's radio show, and was a friend.

I choose not to print out the words.

I choose to steer clear of loofah ads and anything Leprechaun on the net.

The insanity, eet ees contagious. Please build Mars colony.

re: #162 Purple Prose

A neutral interviewer will never get anything new out of an interviewee....
Here is James Watson and E.O Wilson discussing Darwin on Charlie Rose. It would have been more interesting with a more in-charge and opinionated interviewer, but in this case since it's a dialog between two scientists, it's pretty interesting.

[Link: video.google.com...]

I just don't get this attitude, I guess you agree with the Columbia School of Journalism that there is no such thing as objective journalism?

I've watched some of those Rose interviews with Wilson, they tend to be boring. Rose isn't a scientist, and doesn't play one on television, he depends on these public scientists being able to be interesting on their own. What's Rose supposed to do, start hauling out his own DNA charts and citing academic research against his guests?

He tries to get them to debate each other, or support each other, which is even more difficult, as everyone has their own hobbyhorse. I consider that good journalism.

You think the referee at a fight should kick the contestants?

Sorry, I'm not criticizing you, just saying how hard I find it to accept this kind of attitude, no matter how widespread it is these days.

re: #163 Skinless Frank

How about Paris Hilton as a political commentator? If the show gets boring, they can always have her sit "carelessly."

They could call it the Basic Instinct show.

re: #173 itellu3times

I just don't get this attitude, I guess you agree with the Columbia School of Journalism that there is no such thing as objective journalism?

Objective journalism is great, but objective journalism requires that journalists call their sources on BS. The problem with most interview shows is that they
never call their interviewees on BS. They either just let the interviewee plug their latest project, like Leno and Letterman (although Letterman has the virtue of occasionally being unpredictable or ornery) or they ask softball questions, a la Larry King and, yes, even Charlie Rose.

Being objective is asking tough questions to get at the truth. Interviewers may not be journalists, but I'd like to see interviewers that had the time to explore issues and press interviewees, asking some uncomfortable questions to get to the bottom of something. Whether that comes from an "objective" interviewer or a politically motivated interviewer doesn't matter. How about some substance?

We have too many fake journalists, too many bombastic talking heads (and, yes, the conservatives are as bad on this as the liberals) and too many softball interviewers. Just give me the real stuff, warts and all.

it will be a short lived show.

this is one of the best posts I've ever read on LGF! Truer words couldn't be spoken!

You have to face the facts--the conservatives rest on Christianity, and that is why they support people like Huckabee and support ideas of creationism, are against abortion, etc.

This is why the leftists have been losing for decades: conservatives have a monopoly on moral sway in the public's eye (religion), while socialism in its pure form is bankrupt and on the retreat (but the conservatives have given up free markets are going to the center and increasing statism in America, but that is another issue).

re: #166 Purple Prose

"P-P" -

Thankfully, the Conservative benches are MUCH deeper now than when WFB started on PBS. Tie one hand behind our back and make our representatives WOMEN ONLY. You get MONICA, LAURA, & ANN. Under the same conditions they get ...?

-S-

re: #177 Student of Objectivism

Student -

One more time -

MARXIST = READ MARX, ENTREPRENEUR = UNDERSTANDS MARX.

-S-

Newt Gingrich needs a damn show.

Actually, Newt would make a great Vice President.

re: #180 fiveofnine

Newt Gingrich needs a damn show.

Actually, Newt would make a great Vice President.

Then he could lie to the entire nation and say that America was founded on Christianity!

re: #181 Student of Objectivism

"Student" -

Actually, America was founded on "Deism" - A Monotheistic Belief which refused to "Establish" a Church in the New Republic. AND it also DID NOT DENY the existence of a Creator or of Religion. The Founders were, in that instance - NEUTRAL. Me(Generally)thinks - They Got It Right.

-S-

I'm going to take the contrarian position here. I think giving Huck a show is probably the second best thing to do with him.

I'm glad Huck didn't get the nomination and probably isn't going to get picked for veep. He managed to do OK as gov in Arkansas but just isn't ready for the national stage, the campaign showed his horrible lack of knowledge on a variety of topics. But on the other hand I suspect he has the potential to be one of our greatest politicians. What he does have is the natural gift for politics and a natural inclination towards the right side. It must be something in the water in Ark. His raw political skills are probably the equal of Slick himself.

He just needs to be trained up a bit. The best course would have been for a quality think tank to have taken him in for a few years, imagine what Heritage or Cato could have done to clue him in on basic economics, his worst subject. But doing a daily show would also offer a great chance to expose him to the right ideas. It just might work out.

Remember, ignorance can be fixed. Stupid can't and evil usually doesn't want to be fixed. But Huck isn't stupid or evil. At least I didn't get the evil vibe from watching him, while Slick set off alarm bells the first time I watched him in action.

re: #181 Student of Objectivism

Then he could lie to the entire nation and say that America was founded on Christianity!

Sorry to burst your bubble, but historical fact doesn't change regardless of how much it apparently pisses you off.

There is ample historical evidence that a) the Founders were practicing Christians (A couple of notable Deists excepted) who b) would not have designed a form of government based on any other philosophical system and c) that since a fair number were here instead of in their home countries because of religious intolerance based on difference in religious doctrine they didn't want to repeat the mistake of making Church and State one... at least at the Federal level. Keep in mind that at the time the 1st Amendment was ratified several of the States were themselves a theocracy in all but name.

Fortunately Christianity, by virtue of being right in the middle of the Enlightenment had by the time of the Founding changed enough to permit things we now take for granted but were still fairly new concepts then.... and still are for religions like Islam which didn't have to adapt.

The main objection I hear to Huckabee is that his faith informs his talk more than most folks are comfortable with. He sounds too much like the majority of the founding fathers of this country for most peoples' taste. It's curious that men who talked that way could have founded such as successful country, but perhaps it happened in spite of their faith rather than because of it.

re: #181 Student of Objectivism

Then he could lie to the entire nation and say that America was founded on Christianity!

Sorry, I had to ding you down on this one. I respect your right to be an atheist, agnostic, or whatever you may consider yourself to be, but I don't think that there is any denying that this nation was founded upon Christian principles. Nothing outside of the Word of Christ contributed to the sense of individual equality that is embodied in our Constitution. I'm certainly no evangelical, but I think it is important to understand the genesis of the ideals and ideas that helped this country to evolve in the way that it has.

Huckabee is right on this one. Quite frankly, if you feel otherwise, you may as well join the ACLU and hand your nuts over to the nearest university professor of ACS that you can find. I hate to be so blunt, but I get tired of this type of purposeful whitewashing of history...

maybe fox knows the country has lurched left politically and wants to appeal to the furry bedroom slippers crowd too... keep up ad revenue so it "CHANGED"

re: #186 BGOH

Sorry, I had to ding you down on this one. I respect your right to be an atheist, agnostic, or whatever you may consider yourself to be, but I don't think that there is any denying that this nation was founded upon Christian principles. Nothing outside of the Word of Christ contributed to the sense of individual equality that is embodied in our Constitution. I'm certainly no evangelical, but I think it is important to understand the genesis of the ideals and ideas that helped this country to evolve in the way that it has.

Huckabee is right on this one. Quite frankly, if you feel otherwise, you may as well join the ACLU and hand your nuts over to the nearest university professor of ACS that you can find. I hate to be so blunt, but I get tired of this type of purposeful whitewashing of history...

so what moral compass kept man from becoming a savage blood lusting murderer before the "birth of jesus" ?
or before the "birth of moses" or any other god, prophet, etc..

re: #27 BGOH

He eats squirrels and he thinks the earth is 6000 years old.

176-maybe showcase huck for M'cain running mate....

FNC? Just Tivo Brit Hume and Krauthammer and skip the rest. If I gotta hear O'Reily justify showing strippers one more time I'm gonna barf. It's so the "folks" must see what's going on, you know...

re: #5 Charles

Now on Hannity's show: scumbag prostitute-biter Dick Morris.

Sucking toes is not biting Charles, I think you're confusing him with Marv Albert - get your scumbags straight...;-)

re: #27 BGOH

Well, I'm not exactly sure where all of the Lizard hatred for Huckabee is coming from, but I don't see this as being too outrageous. Certainly, I think a guy like the Huckabee would be better suited to the role of "pundit," or what have you, but even though I don't agree with him on everything, I do recognize that he is very personable, and very likable.

I know that there is little that can be said for some of the gaffes he has made (the Obama joke being chief among them), but I guess I don't fully understand the initial vehemence by Charles and everyone else who has responded. No big deal, of course. I'm just curious.

Because, and speaking only for myself, his teaming up with McCain to get rid of Romney (and I was a Giuliani supporter) helped us get the biggest turd of a candidate ever and second he's a RINO who believes the earth is only 6000 years old. He might as well be Obama for how much I disagree with the guy.

If the disillusioned liberals of LGF will stand clear, I think Huck is right on the sanctity of life, the inadvisability of same sex marriage, and public prayer.

Is the evolution/creation debate over? I must have missed that. Who won? How about global warming?

However when it comes to squirrel meat, I am shocked, shocked! about his position. That should certainly disqualify him from leadership (joking).

re: #194 cantrecant

If the disillusioned liberals of LGF will stand clear, I think Huck is right on the sanctity of life, the inadvisability of same sex marriage, and public prayer.

Is the evolution/creation debate over? I must have missed that. Who won? How about global warming?

However when it comes to squirrel meat, I am shocked, shocked! about his position. That should certainly disqualify him from leadership (joking).

I can think just fine, thanks. Mike Huckabee is a liberal in evangelists' clothing -- but if it's more important to you to force your religion into public schools, I can see how you'd be willing to ignore his actual policy positions.

Maybe Fox will hire Rudy "never-left-the-gate" Giuliani. Is he still around somewhere?

Oddly enough, today Mike Huckabee did the Paul Harvey news. He did quite well in my opinion, but then all he had to do was read the script.

Anybody Fox hires will be better than Crud Matthews and Krank Obermoron although I'm afraid that Pat Buchanan will give conservatives a undeservedly bad reputation.

re: #195 Charles

I can think just fine, thanks. Mike Huckabee is a liberal in evangelists' clothing -- but if it's more important to you to force your religion into public schools, I can see how you'd be willing to ignore his actual policy positions.

Yes, I think the religion of the founders of the United States works better on balance than the religion of secular humanism which has been forced into public schools, and on up through University.

Personally I find the creation/evolution debate a waste of time. Both sides have the same evidence to deal with and it gets interpreted with varying degrees of extremity from moderate to obsessive on both sides. I do object to the uncivilized craziness with which scientists on the creation side are ridiculed and ostracized by the evolutionary establishment, but that has ever been the way of a herd of ideologues. It's enough to drive civilized evolutionists to the opposing camp, just not to be associated with their nutty peers.

re: #198 cantrecant

Yes, I think the religion of the founders of the United States works better on balance than the religion of secular humanism which has been forced into public schools, and on up through University.

Personally I find the creation/evolution debate a waste of time. Both sides have the same evidence to deal with and it gets interpreted with varying degrees of extremity from moderate to obsessive on both sides. I do object to the uncivilized craziness with which scientists on the creation side are ridiculed and ostracized by the evolutionary establishment, but that has ever been the way of a herd of ideologues. It's enough to drive civilized evolutionists to the opposing camp, just not to be associated with their nutty peers.

There are no scientists on the creation side.

re: #199 Charles

There are no scientists on the creation side.

Not a shadow of doubt. Your ideology/religion is showing.

I also enjoy Dick Morris' commentary. I also like the addition of Bob Beckel to FNC. I find the discourse between Beckel and Hannity or Hume entertaining. I don't have a problem with Huckabee having his own show, even though I suspect it might be a yawner.

FNC is a business....they exist to make money. When they stop making money, they will be off the air.