The Source of the Iranian Fauxtograph
Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:36:01 am PDT
Media Backspin has some information on Iran’s SEPAH news network, responsible for floating that faked missile launch photograph to Western news sources.
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Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:36:01 am PDT
Media Backspin has some information on Iran’s SEPAH news network, responsible for floating that faked missile launch photograph to Western news sources.
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mean Gene Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:38:39am |
I thought we already knew it was from the Republican Guard?
What interests me is whether Mahmoud knew or whether it was an attempt to pull the wool over his eyes.
If his IRGC feels it has to fool him it could mean they know he's nutty as a fruitcake.
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:40:14am |
Is Baghdad Bob working for SEPAH now?
Next month, "Our nuclear centrifuges are producing plenty of enriched uranium for our peaceful nuclear program" while he's standing in front of a smoking crater.
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JSK1121 Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:40:38am |
I wonder if Muslims would revere Big Mo' as much as they do if HE shot blanks 25% of the time?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:40:49am |
re: #1 songbird
There is an official throbbing image on that site!
I'm giggling madly.
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bosforus Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:41:23am |
Fauxtography is the number one cause of Islamofauxbia. Speaking of which, where's DouDou?
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Golem Akbar Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:41:23am |
Any idea why they manipulated the photo?Maybe to cover up the mishap and to boast Iran’s capabilities. They’re worried about a possible Western attack. They don’t want the West to use its military muscle to force them to accept Western conditions for the nuclear program.
Says it all. Pants on fire etc.
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DistantThunder Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:42:06am |
Obama the Tyrant - now I will do everything to help elect McCain. Obama the meglomaniac has got to be stopped. The man is a monster.
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Wyatt Earp Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:43:09am |
We need the Family Guy episode where the man shouts "You're a big phony!"
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lawhawk Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:43:16am |
re: #2 mean Gene
I thought we already knew it was from the Republican Guard?
What interests me is whether Mahmoud knew or whether it was an attempt to pull the wool over his eyes.
If his IRGC feels it has to fool him it could mean they know he's nutty as a fruitcake.
Multiple audiences. It wants to show strength to the Iranian people. They need to please their superiors who keep making claims that they'll turn Israel into a burning wreck.
They want to deter the US and Israel from attacking, by showing that they've got the means to retaliate.
There are at least three distinct audiences involved here, and faking the photo works to benefit the IRGC in all three.
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lawhawk Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:43:48am |
re: #5 buzzsawmonkey
Heh, I'm waiting for Ahmadinejad to reveal himself as Pinhead.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:43:48am |
The State Dept. has already designated the Revolutionary Guards as a terror organization. Should Sepah News get the same designation?No. It doesn’t spew hate. It basically reports on what the Revolutionary Guards believe. In terms of analysis of Iranian news, its pretty poor. I’m sure one its intended audiences are the Western news agencies. I think the Guards use it to show their strength and ideology, and perhaps for psychological warfare purposes.
What the Revolutionary Guards believe IS hate.
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bosforus Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:44:17am |
The throbbing image shows something I hadn't noticed before, the area around the added missile and the smoke (especially to the right of the smoke) is lighter than the rest of the image. That couldn't have been too hard to fix.
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goddessoftheclassroom Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:45:53am |
re: #9 DistantThunder
Obama the Tyrant - now I will do everything to help elect McCain. Obama the meglomaniac has got to be stopped. The man is a monster.
Are you referring to the headline about his current speech?
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DistantThunder Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:45:56am |
Jokes about Obama:
What's the difference between Obama and a Rolls Royce.
The Rolls is lower maintenance.
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DougTheWriter Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:46:18am |
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laZardo Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:46:34am |
re: #11 lawhawk
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what little news I can get on Iran's domestic economic situation is not very bright. Maybe that's why they're upping the propaganda ante.
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DistantThunder Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:47:09am |
re: #16 goddessoftheclassroom
Are you referring to the headline about his current speech?
Just watching him "proclaim" in this lastest news conference made me want to retch.
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bosforus Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:47:24am |
re: #18 DougTheWriter
Here's the non-photoshopped picture from Iran's missile test.
I love that the rocket has a reticle. genius!
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:47:51am |
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Honorary Yooper Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:48:27am |
re: #17 DistantThunder
Jokes about Obama:
What's the difference between Obama and a Rolls Royce.
The Rolls is lower maintenance.
And you can rely on a Rolls to be consistent. Can't say the same for the Obamamessiah.
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Rednek Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:49:12am |
Charles needs to patent the "flashing memo" technique for spotting fake photos and documents.
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turn Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:50:41am |
I’m sure one its intended audiences are the Western news agencies.
- yeah, and it appears to be working quite nicely in that regard
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Pullus Iulius Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:52:58am |
Reminds me of the cold war. Pravda, the Communist newspaper, meant "Truth", and Izvestia, the Soviet newspaper, meant "News". Folks said "v Pravde net izvestiy, v Izvestiyakh net pravdy", or "In the Truth there is no news, and in the News there is no truth." Official press is like that.
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jcm Tue, Jul 15, 2008 8:58:03am |
My favorite Iranian military photo. Take a close look at the birds.....
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Pullus Iulius Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:00:50am |
re: #28 jcm
Four sets of identical shadows. Now, that's precision flying.
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Arbalest Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:01:13am |
Does not the MSM investigate their sources?
From the BackSpin article:
The Sepah news network "basically reports on what the Revolutionary Guards believe. In terms of analysis of Iranian news, its pretty poor. I’m sure one its intended audiences are the Western news agencies. I think the Guards use it to show their strength and ideology, and perhaps for psychological warfare purposes."
These statements seem obviously true; how could the mighty investigative journalists at AFP not at least consider these things before accepting material from Sepah?
OTOH, as per The Jawa Report, some news agendies seme to have little problem simply believing what they're told, and apparently even helping to create the story.
Q: will the AP ever provide a tape of the un-armed women's trial, to perhaps lend some credence to their killing being some sort of pseudo-legal action, and not simply murder by many heavily-armed cowards?
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Dar ul Harb Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:03:00am |
re: #14 bosforus
The throbbing image shows something I hadn't noticed before, the area around the added missile and the smoke (especially to the right of the smoke) is lighter than the rest of the image. That couldn't have been too hard to fix.
Yes, and since it's on topic,
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Just Another Four-letter Word Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:07:11am |
re: #28 jcm
My favorite Iranian military photo. Take a close look at the birds.....
Thunderbirds, huh? Sheesh. Not fauxtography, but definitely misrepresentation!
Who'd 'a expected something like that from the Iranians, huh? Huh?
JAFLW
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Arbalest Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:08:02am |
re: #30 Arbalest
Apologies; the purpose of my reference to the (currently lead) post on The Jawa Report is to, for clarity, properly associate AFP with their partners in doubtful ability, low competence and intellectual dishonesty. Perhaps this should be a separate thread.
Now back to your regularly scheduled "Iranian Fauxtography" thread.
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dahozho Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:11:01am |
re: #13 MandyManners
You beat me! This whole article is a whitewash. The source wasn't trustworthy to begin with, and AFP should've vetted the photo more stringently.
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mossley Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:18:36am |
At least the MSM is predictable. If it's from the US military or the current administration, it's automatically suspect, but they'll accept anything from a terrorist state on face value.
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_remembertonyc Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:19:57am |
has anyone used the term "Obimbo" to describe BHO's female followers?
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NomadOfNorad Tue, Jul 15, 2008 12:46:52pm |
re: #3 Kosh's Shadow
Is Baghdad Bob working for SEPAH now?
Next month, "Our nuclear centrifuges are producing plenty of enriched uranium for our peaceful nuclear program" while he's standing in front of a smoking crater.
But of course they'll photoshop in a parking lot in place of the crater.
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Render Tue, Jul 15, 2008 1:10:12pm |
What lies behind us and lies before us are small matters compared to what lies right to our faces.
-With apologies to Ralph Waldo...
THE PRICE
OF
ADMIRALTY,
R
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Winslow Tue, Jul 15, 2008 1:30:38pm |
Fauxtoclone
(with apologies to Paul Simon)
When I think back on all the crap the media fed me,
It’s a wonder I still have a clue.
But now with LGF and zombietime to help me,
This propaganda I can see right through.
Fauxtoclone
They give us those nice thick smoke trails,
They give us “Green Helmet” flaunting entrails;
Make you think all Beirut was blown away.
They got a fauxto program,
They love to make a fauxtograph.
Oh mama, please take their Fauxtoclone away.
If you took all the phony pictures propagated,
And brought them all together in one file,
You’d have a testament to treason unabated;
You’d have a monumental lying pile.
Fauxtoclone
They give us a fake construction,
They give us a staged production;
Make you think day is night, and night is day.
They’re in the fauxto business,
Disseminating fauxtographs.
Oh mama, please take their Fauxtoclone away.
And so in all the mainstream media publications,
From Reuters wires to The New York Times,
There is a flood of fauxtographic fabrications;
There is a trail of journalistic crimes.
Fauxtoclone
They give us a mocked-up missile,
They give us clean toys in rubble;
Make your heart bleed; emotions they will sway.
They run a fauxto racket,
Distributing their fauxtographs.
Oh mama, please take their Fauxtoclone away.
If you count all the times Flat Fatima’s been homeless,
And all the times the IDF’s been framed,
And all the Pallywood productions foisted on us,
You’ll realize the MSM’s to blame.
Fauxtoclone
They give us those bogus war crimes,
They give us misleading headlines;
Make you think good is bad, and bad’s okay.
They’re fauxto-journalistas,
Assailing truth with fauxtographs.
Oh mama, please take their Fauxtoclone away.
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psyop Tue, Jul 15, 2008 2:31:39pm |
As an arm of the Revolutionary Guards, SEPAH is essentially a pathetic version of the U.S. Military's PSYOP units.
Of course, our PSYOP units are taught, nay, commanded, to never intentionally lie, fabricate, make up out of whole cloth, digitally alter, or otherwise be dishonest.
Why is this, you may ask? Because, if you are caught lying, you lose credibility. And in the business of persuasion, credibility is your life's blood.
As Iran is now a global laughingstock for their idiotic attempt to fake military prowess, I think it is pretty clear why lie-based propaganda is the WRONG way to go.
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HoosierHoops Tue, Jul 15, 2008 4:53:26pm |
Of course, our PSYOP units are taught, nay, commanded, to never intentionally lie, fabricate, make up out of whole cloth, digitally alter, or otherwise be dishonest..
Sorry..lost the posters name above..need a little help..
Thanks..
/as someone that has most of his family in the past that has worked for the gov't..you know pops worked for the FAA..ect..
Our civil employees are the best in the world.. period..
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