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McCain's Talking

Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 9:08:39 am PDT

John McCain will now respond to Barack Obama’s ludicrous, intensely leftist foreign policy speech.

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1 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:09:20am

Kick his ass!

2 laZardo  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:09:32am

Anybody know what channels it might be on over on this side of the Rim?

3 ATC Guy  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:09:47am

Good....I hope he slaps Barry around a bit on the Iraq issue. Maybe a reason to vote for him after all.

4 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:10:01am

Good, first the rantings of the wackos, now the sane speech of mature adults.

McCain '08!

5 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:10:31am

let him have it McC

6 Charles  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:10:52am

I just hope someone gave McCain a couple shots of espresso before this one.

7 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:10:54am

OHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASEOH PLEASEOHPLEASEOHPLEASE

8 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:11:08am

re: #2 laZardo

I Doubt the MSM let's it get broadcast much farther than Canada.

9 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:11:16am

If he says "gee, that New Yorker cover was bang-on after all", I'll mail him cookies.

10 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:11:26am

re: #1 wiffersnapper

Kick his ass!

Surely you're not talking about Milquetoast McCain, are you?

JAFLW

11 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:11:36am

2 cops have been shot in atlanta :(

12 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:11:46am

McCain 08!

/or else.....

13 bosforus  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:12:04am

McCain, though he can be a tough speaker, frequently disappoints me at opportune times.

14 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:12:13am

re: #10 Just Another Four-letter Word

JAFLW?

15 Macker  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:12:26am

re: #6 Charles

I just hope someone gave McCain a couple shots of espresso before this one.

God, I need a drink....

/snicker

Morning, Charles & Lizards!

16 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:12:30am

Can we hear this speach via the internet?

17 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:12:41am

here we go

18 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:12:41am

re: #6 Charles

I just hope someone gave McCain a couple shots of espresso before this one.

Double Mocha, extra sweet for me please.

19 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:12:47am

Some easy ways to kick the shit out of the phony pandering bank-ruining flip flopping socialists.

20 Dianna  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:12:51am

Where can I pick it up? CSPAN?

21 alegrias  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:13:25am

McCain must not look too angry or mean!

McCain shouldn't wag his fingers at his audience like the other candidate, nor talk down to them.

There's different rules for former POWs--must be reality-based, not blow hot air.

22 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:13:33am

re: #11 trailortrash

2 cops have been shot in atlanta :(

Damn! (In the negative sense.)

23 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:13:41am

re: #11 trailortrash

2 cops have been shot in atlanta :(

Nothing on Fox News yet...

JAFLW

24 jorline  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:13:50am

Does anyone else think that Obama looks like the Scarecrow from the "Wizard of Oz"...add a little straw, a floppy hat and the wobble in his walk...oh...and the most important feature...if I only had a brain.

25 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:13:53am

re: #20 Dianna

watching foxnews here, cant seem to find it on the net sorry

26 Catttt  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:15:11am

Ahhh. Senator McCain talks fluently and at a good pace, without a lot of uhs and "poor phrasing."

27 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:15:19am

re: #6 Charles

I just hope someone gave McCain a couple shots of espresso before this one.

If Benzidrine was still legal Fred Thompson might have won the nomination.

28 livefreeor die  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:15:41am

Is there a delay while McCain picks his jaw up off the floor after the amazingly stupid speech just given by his opponent?

29 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:15:41am

re: #24 jorline

Does anyone else think that Obama looks like the Scarecrow from the "Wizard of Oz"...add a little straw, a floppy hat and the wobble in his walk...oh...and the most important feature...if I only had a brain.

He has a brain. It's just badly clogged with Marxism and Gaianism.

30 bosforus  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:15:42am

re: #11 trailortrash

2 cops have been shot in atlanta :(

Heard a recording of the 911 call from a little girl whose mother was being stabbed by her boyfriend. The mother later died. Too much bad news.

31 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:15:46am

re: #14 wiffersnapper

JAFLW?

Yes?

I'm referring to the fact that McLame refuses to start duking it out with The Obamassiah and/or the MSM. Limp-wristed linguini-spined responses is the best he can do, apparently...

I'm NOT happy with Juan McRINO, can you tell?

JAFLW

32 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:15:54am

Dang I haven't heard Freddy's name mentioned in ages

33 profitsbeard  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:15:57am

Obama makes a handy-dandy floor mop if utilized effectively.

Comes with its own soft soap dispenser, too.

34 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:16:03am

re: #26 Catttt

Ahhh. Senator McCain talks fluently and at a good pace, without a lot of uhs and "poor phrasing."

But is he "clean"?

35 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:16:17am

he needs to not take his eye off the teleprompter, like obama did.

36 alegrias  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:16:19am

And remember not to laugh at the other guy, because Hollywood says not to!

"...Late Night Hosts Lay Off Obama

So the late night hosts are laying off Obama ...


There is no comedic “take” on him, nothing easy to turn to for an easy laugh, like allegations of Bill Clinton’s womanizing, or President Bush’s goofy bumbling or Al Gore’s robotic persona.

“The thing is, he’s not buffoonish in any way,” said Mike Barry, who started writing political jokes for Johnny Carson’s monologues in the waning days of the Johnson administration and has lambasted every presidential candidate since, most recently for Mr. Letterman. “He’s not a comical figure,” Mr. Barry said.

“A lot of people are excited about his candidacy,” Mr. Sweeney said. “It’s almost like: ‘Hey, don’t go after this guy. He’s a fresh face; cut him some slack.’ ”

Justin Stangel, who is a head writer for “Late Show With David Letterman,” disputed that, saying, “We always have to make jokes about everybody. We’re not trying to lay off the new guy.”

But Mr. Barry said, “I think some of us were maybe too quick to caricature Al Gore and John Kerry and there’s maybe some reluctance to do the same thing to him.”


The notion that Obama hasn't provided sufficient fodder -- have they forgotten the campaign seal, his love of Honest Tea, his passed out Body Man -- for comedy writers is laughable. More laughable than their programming, in fact. If they need some help, they should call up Rob Long at National Review. But to say there is no joke in Obama talking about the price of arugula at Whole Foods in a speech in Iowa -- a state that doesn't even have a single Whole Foods -- is a ridiculous lie. They may think it's good politics, but it's certainly not good comedy.

Posted by Jaime Sneider at 07:42 AM
[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

37 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:16:45am

re: #31 Just Another Four-letter Word

Actually, I'm just asking the n00b question of "what does JAFLW mean?"

38 Sponge  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:16:55am

McCain has had plenty of opportunities to lay BHO to waste, but hasn't. I understand he wants to get away from the muckraking that has been politics for the last several elections, but he really needs to nut up and throw some punches.

39 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:17:22am

re: #30 bosforus

Heard a recording of the 911 call from a little girl whose mother was being stabbed by her boyfriend. The mother later died. Too much bad news.

Is the little girl safe?

40 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:17:28am

NEVERMIND, I figured it out

41 rw in san diego  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:17:35am

I hope he stays serious. He's no comedian.

42 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:17:40am

re: #34 Occasional Reader

But is he "clean"?

Don't forget articulate, and does he eat arugula?

43 Charles  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:17:54am

Guh. He had a great point there, but his delivery was awful.

44 bosforus  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:18:01am

re: #38 Sponge

McCain has had plenty of opportunities to lay BHO to waste, but hasn't. I understand he wants to get away from the muckraking that has been politics for the last several elections, but he really needs to nut up and throw some punches.

He doesn't understand the difference between going after somebody on a whim and going after somebody when they've truly made an ass of themselves.

45 Dianna  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:18:20am

re: #25 trailortrash

Thanks.

46 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:18:48am

re: #31 Just Another Four-letter Word

And no, I'm not happy with McLame either. Just given the opposition, I'd vote for mcc in a heartbeat.

47 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:18:50am

re: #43 Charles

always does and it always is, the man just cant deliver a speech lol
glad speeches dont run countrys :)

48 filetandrelease  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:19:36am

re: #3 ATC Guy

Good....I hope he slaps Barry around a bit on the Iraq issue. Maybe a reason to vote for him after all.

It took me awhile to come around for McCain, because I really don't care for him politically. Although his energy speech a few ago suggesting we build more nuke plants and such was inspiring. I haven't heard much about it since though. But the more Obama speaks, the more I have to vote against him. He scares me.

49 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:20:20am

re: #44 bosforus

He doesn't understand the difference between going after somebody on a whim and going after somebody when they've truly made an ass of themselves.

The Big Oh demonstrates his unfitness for public office every time he opens his mouth.

50 Izzy Dunne  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:20:30am

re: #37 wiffersnapper


Actually, I'm just asking the n00b question of "what does JAFLW mean?"

Jefferson Airplane Flies Least Wastefully.

51 songbird  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:20:50am

re: #46 wiffersnapper

McCain does not please me either, but there is no viable third party choice. It's important that McCain choose his successor as VP, and I'm watching closely for that choice.

52 Just Above Average  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:21:12am

McCain's doing a good job today. He's somewhat articulate and with few pauses, he's hitting back at Barry with a measured, intelligent and thoughtful manner, complete with his bitting sarcasm.

53 cookielady  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:21:22am

As usual, the Republican Party offers us someone to vote AGAINST, not FOR.

blah...

54 Dianna  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:21:53am

Would someone mention what McCain's good, but badly delivered, point?

55 NoSubmission  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:22:14am

How's he doing?

GO MCCAIN!

56 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:22:14am

re: #37 wiffersnapper

Actually, I'm just asking the n00b question of "what does JAFLW mean?"

Look at my Nome de Plume...

JAFLW

57 alegrias  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:22:32am

re: #47 trailortrash

always does and it always is, the man just cant deliver a speech lol
glad speeches dont run countrys :)

* * *
Bill Clinton's eight years of fine speeches while the Taliban and their Al Qaeda guests took aim at us over and over again, did nothing for me.

All hat, no cattle.

And now we have all fez & hot air mesmerizing the same people who loooooooved Bill so much.

I don't want to swoon over my commander in chief. That's so creepy and banana republicanish, a charismatic strong-man fixation.

No thanks. I'll take Mr. Guts & Glory.

58 rw in san diego  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:22:48am

I like what he is saying. I appreciate the specifics. I find that preferable to 'hope and change'.

59 songbird  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:22:52am

I know many on the board will disagree with me, but I still think Huckabee would have been a good - not perfect - and fair president.

60 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:22:57am

re: #40 wiffersnapper

NEVERMIND, I figured it out

Nevermind, I replied too quick! Heh.

JAFLW

61 snowcrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:23:10am

This is how McCain must do it. Quote Obamas words and show his foolish errors. Put Obama on the defensive. Show Obama as the untried leader that he is. I like McCains unscripted sarcasm and it is very effective.

62 harrylook  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:23:21am

McCain's gonna criticize BHO? Racist!

63 Rednek  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:23:26am

Could someone sum up the high points of the two talks?

When I saw Obama was going to talk I had an accident and had to go clean myself...Dang it all, but I missed both.

64 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:23:48am

re: #57 alegrias

agreed, :)

65 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:24:13am

re: #31 Just Another Four-letter Word

Chill JAFLW. Study the recent history of election decision making. Things don't even get noticed by 'the masses' until Labor Day. Lots of folks change their minds after the debates. You gotta keep your powder dry.

66 bosforus  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:24:19am

re: #39 The Other Les

Is the little girl safe?

Don't know much else about it. I'm sure if she was harmed that it also would have been mentioned. Killer is apparently still at large.

67 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:24:45am

re: #59 songbird

I know many on the board will disagree with me, but I still think Huckabee would have been a good - not perfect - and fair president.

Did you know that he's subbing for Paul Harvey today and tomorrow?

69 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:25:42am

Here's an internet feed of McCain talking.

70 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:25:51am

McCain is talking as if he actually knows something about military affairs...

How about that, Obama?

71 alegrias  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:25:54am

re: #59 songbird

I know many on the board will disagree with me, but I still think Huckabee would have been a good - not perfect - and fair president.

* * *
For now you'll have to settle for him supporting the nominee, his "good friend" McCain.

72 Barry the Baptist  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:25:55am

John McClame:
"I will work to kill terrorists but at the same time I won't close the borders to possible terrorists entering the nation because that would be xenophobic and we can't be called racists. Better just to be killed than have that stigma. But, after the terrorists who will enter from Mexico, kill some of us, I will diligently work to solve that problem by blaming the previous administration; blaming ourselves via our foreign policy; bash the right wingers who want to clsoe the border and lastly, I will form a committee to figure out how this could have happened whilst at the same time looking to capture these men-if they are still alive-and granting full access to our legal system.

"Thank you. I hope that you vote for me."

73 songbird  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:26:10am

re: #67 razorbacker

Did you know that he's subbing for Paul Harvey today and tomorrow?

Yes, I heard about that. His speechcraft is quite good, and he will be successful in teaching and motivating people, no matter where he ends up.

74 Catttt  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:26:10am

[Link: www.livenewscameras.com...]

Click on the above link and go to Fox New York 1 to see this online now.

75 jcbunga  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:26:47am

re: #33 profitsbeard

Obama makes a handy-dandy floor mop if utilized effectively.

Comes with its own soft soap dispenser, too.

His head won't fit in the corners though...homage to Emo Phillips

76 songbird  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:27:05am

re: #71 alegrias

* * *
For now you'll have to settle for him supporting the nominee, his "good friend" McCain.

Unfortunately, but I'll deal with it. Everyone is a good friend if you don't want to kill your political future.

77 2blue4u  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:27:12am

re: #2 laZardo

Here in Europe I could see the Obama speech on France24 and now the McCain speech on CNN International....

78 rw in san diego  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:27:35am

I admit I don't listen to Obama's speeches much, but I have never heard this level of specificity and understanding in anything I've heard from Obama.

79 alegrias  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:27:40am

re: #70 Kenneth

McCain is talking as if he actually knows something about military affairs...

How about that, Obama?

* * *
Current Democrat party line is McCain has too much military experience!

Naivete & nuance is so much more...dreamy hopey wishy.

80 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:28:39am

McC just layed O on his heels.

81 alegrias  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:29:13am

re: #80 trailortrash

McC just layed O on his heels.

* * *
How so? Speak!

82 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:29:15am

I'm going back to other tasks.

McCain will have to work to lose my vote this year, and the more I hear Obama the harder McCain will have to work to lose my vote.

83 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:29:17am
84 rw in san diego  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:29:30am

He's going to 'bring Osama bin Laden to justice'? Gah!

85 Rednek  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:29:42am

re: #67 razorbacker

Did you know that he's subbing for Paul Harvey today and tomorrow?

Now I know the rest of the story.

86 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:29:59am

re: #65 experiencedtraveller

Chill JAFLW. Study the recent history of election decision making. Things don't even get noticed by 'the masses' until Labor Day. Lots of folks change their minds after the debates. You gotta keep your powder dry.

While you are correct, it still gripes my biscuits that he is doing the PC thing of, for example, saying he thinks the New Yorker's caricature of O and Michell-ma-belle is in poor taste. He parrots their opinions, whereas I would tell (and have on several occasions) the PC crowd where they could stuff it.

I *don't* like being forced to vote for Tweedledum instead of Tweedledumber, both choices make me ill. If it wasn't for the absolute horrors that O would put the country through, I'd do a write-in candidate. Romney.

JAFLW

/YMMV

87 bulwrk  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:30:05am

re: #72 Barry the Baptist

get over it.

88 songbird  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:30:07am

re: #85 Rednek

Now I know the rest of the story.

Ba-da-BING!

89 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:30:20am

re: #81 alegrias

he replyed to obama's attacking packistan, im not good with words sorry.

90 2blue4u  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:30:58am

Re Obama speech: what I did observe is that he looks at the audience only to the sides (left/right) and never straight ahead. Why? (probably because there is no teleprompter ahead)...

91 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:31:08am

Massive bitch-slap to BHO.

92 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:31:28am

"In times of war, the Commander in Chief doesn't get a learning curve"

Ouch! That's gotta hurt Obama... maybe you should whine it's not fair.

93 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:31:28am

BTW, McCain's final paragraph was very good.

I didn't feel a tingle, but I believed him.

94 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:31:40am

audiance laughing at B o was pricless

95 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:31:47am

Just missed it.

96 livefreeor die  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:31:48am

re: #65 experiencedtraveller

Chill JAFLW. Study the recent history of election decision making. Things don't even get noticed by 'the masses' until Labor Day. Lots of folks change their minds after the debates. You gotta keep your powder dry.

Gore seemed to have the 2000 election in the bag until he was such an ass during the next to last debate. Then buh-bye.

Of course, all of us evil Republicans had to work our tails off stealing votes on election day too.

97 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:31:56am

re: #69 wrenchwench

Thanks.

98 turn  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:31:56am

Gonna get Bin Laden, right.

I haven't heard one single presidential candidate float the possibility that Bin Laden is already dead, which in my mind is the only logical conclusion to why we haven't heard from him.

99 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:32:10am

re: #72 Barry the Baptist

John McClame:
"I will work to kill terrorists but at the same time I won't close the borders to possible terrorists entering the nation because that would be xenophobic and we can't be called racists. Better just to be killed than have that stigma. But, after the terrorists who will enter from Mexico, kill some of us, I will diligently work to solve that problem by blaming the previous administration; blaming ourselves via our foreign policy; bash the right wingers who want to clsoe the border and lastly, I will form a committee to figure out how this could have happened whilst at the same time looking to capture these men-if they are still alive-and granting full access to our legal system.

"Thank you. I hope that you will still vote for me in spite of my idiocy."

Fixed.

JAFLW

100 tfc3rid  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:32:14am

re: #96 livefreeor die

Gore seemed to have the 2000 election in the bag until he was such an ass during the next to last debate. Then buh-bye.

Of course, all of us evil Republicans had to work our tails off stealing votes on election day too.

Especailly our Floridian brothers and sisters!

101 snowcrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:32:25am

I want the Q & A part of the speech. Who is covering that? Fox broke away.

102 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:32:49am

re: #84 rw in san diego

He's going to 'bring Osama bin Laden to justice'? Gah!

Between the health issues and guided munition issues I should think that Bin Laden has already brought to face divine justice. Or whatever Jack T. Chick calls that big glowing head character on that giant throne thingy.

103 trailortrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:32:51am

re: #101 snowcrash

cnn is here in va

104 turn  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:33:36am

re: #101 snowcrash

I want the Q & A part of the speech. Who is covering that? Fox broke away.

[Link: kob.dayport.com...]

105 cblesz  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:33:37am

re: #31 Just Another Four-letter Word

Yes?

I'm referring to the fact that McLame refuses to start duking it out with The Obamassiah and/or the MSM. Limp-wristed linguini-spined responses is the best he can do, apparently...

I'm NOT happy with Juan McRINO, can you tell?

JAFLW

I could not agree more...grow a pair John...if the media will not point it out, you need to!

106 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:33:38am

re: #101 snowcrash

I want the Q & A part of the speech. Who is covering that? Fox broke away.

CNN.

107 livefreeor die  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:33:39am

re: #100 tfc3rid

Especailly our Floridian brothers and sisters!

Yes, Master Rove chose them well.

108 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:33:55am

re: #98 turn

Gonna get Bin Laden, right.

I haven't heard one single presidential candidate float the possibility that Bin Laden is already dead, which in my mind is the only logical conclusion to why we haven't heard from him.

I have to agree with you.

109 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:33:58am

We should be drilling right now.

110 Dianna  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:34:10am

Well, three tasks done, so I can go get some coffee.

I hope for a summary when I get back. Or a transcript.

BTW, re: #101 snowcrash

They won't - the contrast with BO is too painful.

111 livefreeor die  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:34:30am

re: #98 turn

Gonna get Bin Laden, right.

I haven't heard one single presidential candidate float the possibility that Bin Laden is already dead, which in my mind is the only logical conclusion to why we haven't heard from him.

He's not dead. He's resting.

112 snowcrash  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:34:31am

Thanks, got it.

113 Halman  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:34:45am

re: #69 wrenchwench

Thank you. I have been doing some searching....

114 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:34:48am

SHADDUP BALDY.

115 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:34:59am

re: #109 MandyManners

We should be drilling right now.

A wind farm surrounding D.C. would be good as well. There's likely enough hot air blowing from that place to power the entire capital and parts of Virginia.

116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:35:11am

OT

I'm working with idiots. My team provides computer security audits. Another team keeps failing audits because they apparently fail to read the reports. Rather than come down on the team failing and get them to do their damn jobs, my team is now tasked with providing more audits and reports for them.

It doesnt pay to be efficient.

117 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:35:14am

re: #111 livefreeor die

He's not dead. He's resting.


In pieces.

118 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:35:16am

McCain just endorsed off-shore drilling!

119 turn  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:35:19am

re: #111 livefreeor die

He's not dead. He's resting.

Taking a dirt nap is more like it.

120 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:35:29am

First question: oil price.

McCain echoing T. Boone Pickens.

Um, John, most of it goes to Canada and Mexico. Sigh. I wish he understood something, anything.

Drill now! OK!

In Kalifornia .. heh.

And, nukular power.

121 livefreeor die  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:35:58am

re: #119 turn

Taking a dirt nap is more like it.

Sorry, I was channeling the Dead Parrot sketch.

122 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:36:03am

re: #115 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

A wind farm surrounding D.C. would be good as well. There's likely enough hot air blowing from that place to power the entire capital and parts of Virginia.

Maybe a way to tap all those gas-bags, too.

123 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:36:11am

re: #98 turn

Gonna get Bin Laden, right.

I haven't heard one single presidential candidate float the possibility that Bin Laden is already dead, which in my mind is the only logical conclusion to why we haven't heard from him.

Yes you have! Don't you see the tapes that come out every 6 months or so, played on the MSM and even Fox, with Osama Dead Laden speaking something, with a background that is so non-specific that there are no clues as to when it was recorded?

Whats-a-matta-u?

JAFLW

124 turn  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:36:21am

He does soooo much better on a one on one Q&A IMO

125 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:36:30am

Every time he says "my friends" I hear Firesign Theater.

Oy, and here we go with the federal gas tax again.

126 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:36:34am

re: #111 livefreeor die

He's not dead. He's resting.

No he's not, he's stone cold dead.

127 jcbunga  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:36:38am

Bin Laden is the new Dread Pirate Roberts...he's a franchise.

128 harrylook  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:37:12am

re: #90 2blue4u

Re Obama speech: what I did observe is that he looks at the audience only to the sides (left/right) and never straight ahead. Why? (probably because there is no teleprompter ahead)...

Looking ahead reveals his protruding ears. Remember, BHO is as vain as they come. I'm surprised he hasn't had them pinned back.

129 turn  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:37:23am

re: #121 livefreeor die

Sorry, I was channeling the Dead Parrot sketch.

I didn't get it because I don't know about the sketch ...

130 livefreeor die  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:37:30am

re: #127 jcbunga

Bin Laden is the new Dread Pirate Roberts...he's a franchise.

Well, at least the Elvis sightings are down.

131 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:38:31am

Iran on Israel, ...

... he worries a great deal ...

132 Just Another Four-letter Word  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:38:38am

re: #127 jcbunga

Bin Laden is the new Dread Pirate Roberts...he's a franchise.

Ding ding ding ding!

(I never thought of that...)

JAFLW

133 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:40:06am

re: #129 turn

I didn't get it because I don't know about the sketch ...

134 maddogg  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:40:11am

Go Bob!......er.......I mean John!

135 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:40:40am

re: #129 turn

I wouldn't either but for the fact that I married a Monty Python fan...

136 cblesz  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:40:48am

Can someone please give us a rundown of McCain's speech, please?

137 turn  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:40:58am

re: #133 The Other Les

Thanks for the link, I'll check it later.

138 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:43:05am

re: #111 livefreeor die

He's not dead. He's resting.

This Bin Laden is no more! He is definitely deceased! He's ceased to be! 'E's expiried and gone to meet 'is maker! He's a stiff! Berefit of life, he rests in peace! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket! He's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain, and joined the bleeding choir invisible! This is an ex-Bin laden!

139 frodolives  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:44:05am

re: #36 alegrias

Right on the money. The writes aren't even trying. After the attempted assasination of Reagan, a situation where one could truly think difficult to come up with something, the writers still managed to (jellybeans by IV). Now if writers then could pull that off, Obama with his daily faux pas should be easy.

OTOH, Bob Hope once said that really great men can laugh at themselves. Here's the quote from Don't Shoot, It's Only Me: "Humor is the greatest weapon in the world against demagogues and tyrants....Demagogues can't survive humor. Truly great men, like Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy and the other Presidents I have known, thrive on it."

140 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:44:12am
141 Pyrocles  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:45:14am

Sounds like the coming Department of Universal Health Care.

re: #116 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

I'm working with idiots. My team provides computer security audits. Another team keeps failing audits because they apparently fail to read the reports. Rather than come down on the team failing and get them to do their damn jobs, my team is now tasked with providing more audits and reports for them.

It doesnt pay to be efficient.

142 Catttt  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:45:53am

re: #118 Kenneth

McCain just endorsed off-shore drilling!

Offshore drilling - it's a beautiful thing. :D

143 alegrias  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:47:24am

re: #142 Catttt

Offshore drilling - it's a beautiful thing. :D

* * *
It's also jobs, if Americans want them!

144 Macker  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:51:17am

Wait a moment...is this speech vs. speech the virtual debates we've been "promised"?

145 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:53:23am

re: #144 Macker

Wait a moment...is this speech vs. speech the virtual debates we've been "promised"?

I'm still awaiting Thunderdome on the White House lawn.

146 realwest  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:53:51am

Hey all y'all - I just got off the phone with MiguelinMexico and he's doing MUCH better; his son and daughter-in-law are staying with him and his neighbors have also pitched in to help him out.
He says that he has no lasting effects from the stroke, although typing is still a little more difficult for him.
He sounded just WONDERFUL on the phone and wanted me to thank ALL of you for you're prayers and good wishes for his health!
And, as do I, Miguel is proud to be a member of this great community Charles has built called littlegreenfootballs.
He said the prayers and good wishes out here truly made him feel better.

Way to go LGFer's!

147 turn  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:54:18am

Someone like you ... great come back to the boy's question.

148 livefreeor die  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:55:59am

re: #138 Honorary Yooper

This Bin Laden is no more! He is definitely deceased! He's ceased to be! 'E's expiried and gone to meet 'is maker! He's a stiff! Berefit of life, he rests in peace! His metabolic processes are now history! He's off the twig! He's kicked the bucket! He's shuffled off his mortal coil, run down the curtain, and joined the bleeding choir invisible! This is an ex-Bin laden!

Thank you! I was feeling extremely old and sad about the state of American education.

149 itellu3times  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:59:35am

Crap, McCain just carried on about the lack of engineers, mathematicians, programmers. Bullcrap. Its an oversupply of H-1Bs, globalization. Don't victimize kids by telling them to become engineers, when the pay sucks and will suck further.

150 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 9:59:39am

re: #47 trailortrash

always does and it always is, the man just cant deliver a speech lol
glad speeches dont run countrys :)

No, but they sometimes determine who gets to run countries.

151 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:03:37am

re: #111 livefreeor die

He's not dead. He's resting.

He's pining for the oases.

152 FurryOldGuyJeans  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:07:35am

McCain showed lots more life when he was sticking his finger in the collective eyes of Republicans and Conservatives defending his across-the-aisle BS than he does now as head of the party. I swear he gets off being a maverick and loathes being the establishment. Nothing else in my mind can account for his lack-luster performances on the campaign trail so far.

153 maddogg  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:07:42am

re: #149 itellu3times

Crap, McCain just carried on about the lack of engineers, mathematicians, programmers. Bullcrap. Its an oversupply of H-1Bs, globalization. Don't victimize kids by telling them to become engineers, when the pay sucks and will suck further.


You got that right, Bro! Shortage of Engineers is an outright lie. I cannot figure out where that came from. Maybe they mean a shortage of engineers who will work 18 hours a day for illegal alien wages.

154 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:09:17am

Maybe we should consider voting for the Norwegian Party.

155 maddogg  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:09:31am

re: #146 realwest


Get well soon, Miguel!

156 Gavriel  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:14:28am

re: #98 turn

Gonna get Bin Laden, right.

I haven't heard one single presidential candidate float the possibility that Bin Laden is already dead, which in my mind is the only logical conclusion to why we haven't heard from him.

While the leftist "gotta get Bin Laden!" obsession is ridiculous (I believe it's strongest purpose is posturing). Declaring him dead would just:
1. Open a politician to attack
2. Be embarrassing the next time we get a Bin Laden tape.
3. Be really embarrassing if it turns out he isn't dead.

157 hermeneutics  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:18:22am

re: #146 realwest

Thanks for speaking with Miguel, Realwest! Good to know he's okay and on the mend.

Hurry back, Miguel! (We miss reading your dear voice.)

158 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:18:47am

The left doesn't give a hoot about catching Bin Laden. They've just convinced themselves that it is the only thing because they figure it is place the US has "failed".*

* I'm personally convinced OBL is dead, and we, the US, know, but we leave everybody wondering because not knowing is the worst that could happen to his followers. They can't make him a martyr, because that would be admitting his death, but they can't produce him either.

159 debutaunt  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:19:24am

re: #96 livefreeor die

Gore seemed to have the 2000 election in the bag until he was such an ass during the next to last debate. Then buh-bye.

Of course, all of us evil Republicans had to work our tails off stealing votes on election day too.

We all had to kick in for the Diebold vote skimming deal, but it was worth it.

160 turn  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:33:02am

re: #156 Gavriel

While the leftist "gotta get Bin Laden!" obsession is ridiculous (I believe it's strongest purpose is posturing). Declaring him dead would just:
1. Open a politician to attack
2. Be embarrassing the next time we get a Bin Laden tape.
3. Be really embarrassing if it turns out he isn't dead.

Excellent points, I agree. And this is why I used the "float the possibility", I don't expect them to stake their political career on the position only want them to give an alternative to those of us who put off with this obsession. I get the impression when the politicians say I'll get Bin Laden they are kind of saying it with a wink and nod, posturing as you say.

161 blue_like_jazz  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:34:03am

re: #90 2blue4u

Re Obama speech: what I did observe is that he looks at the audience only to the sides (left/right) and never straight ahead. Why? (probably because there is no teleprompter ahead)...

he also doesn't look straight ahead because

HIS EARS ARE GINORMOUS!


/it's an angle issue, tho i agree about the teleprompters, too

162 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:40:02am

re: #161 blue_like_jazz

he also doesn't look straight ahead because

HIS EARS ARE GINORMOUS!


/it's an angle issue, tho i agree about the teleprompters, too

I am certain that an image consultant at some time or another told him he looked best from the side and looking slightly up. He assumes that posture far too often, especially for cameras, for it to be coincidence.

He is, quite literally, a poser.

163 maddogg  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:41:28am

re: #158 Silhouette


The left doesn't give a hoot about catching Bin Laden. They've just convinced themselves that it is the only thing because they figure it is place the US has "failed".*

Sure they do. They want him to testify against GWB and Dick Cheney during their war crimes trial.

164 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:43:34am

re: #36 alegrias

If Barry O does get the Presidency, "The Daily Show," "The Colbert Report," & SNL are going to go out of business.

Hmm, maybe I will vote for Obama!

165 Bobibutu  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:46:06am

I hope both these geniuses are aware of this reality ...

[Link: www.orbat.com...]

0230 GMT July 14, 2008

US May Withdraw 3 Brigades From Iraq For Afghanistan...

...says Washington Post. There are a large number of "depending on" qualifiers and so this is by no means a done deal. In any case, the military has no plan to send additional troops to Afghanistan till next years. If this happens, three brigades slated for Iraq in 2009 will retrain for Afghanistan.

So why are we not happy? Haven't we been yelling and screaming for more troops for Afghanistan? We are not happy for two good reasons.

First, the US has an absolute shortage of combat brigades. That three may go to Afghanistan and not Iraq changes nothing: the Army/Marines are still way overcommitted, even with the five surge brigades having returned. We see a complete, asinine, blockhead refusal on the part of Americans to understand the 1:1:1 rule for overseas deployments: one brigade on expeditionary duty means one brigade rotating and one brigade resting/training. If the American people and government and military persist in this psychotic refusal to face reality, all we can say is "Good luck to you, bro. You're half way to losing the GWOT."

Second, we've often noted there is a huge difference between one brigade deployed immediately a crisis develops and three deployed too late. This is why things went wrong in Vietnam and why they went wrong in 2003/subsequently.
The three brigades people are talking about for 2009 were needed in 2006. Right now you need at least twice as many, and by 2009 you will need thrice as many.
[snip]

166 so.cal.swede  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:52:58am

re: #162 Silhouette

I am certain that an image consultant at some time or another told him he looked best from the side and looking slightly up. He assumes that posture far too often, especially for cameras, for it to be coincidence.

He is, quite literally, a poser.

Hahaha! now that you mention it... i've seen that pose SO many times! the one where he looks like a stone-faced bust in the camera looking out above you... i have to make drawing in mspaint

167 so.cal.swede  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 10:57:48am

bah. no mspaint for you.. this is what i'm talking about: Obama looking far off in the distance. he is above you, and you grovel at his feet, but he has more important things to care about than you, the lowly peon.

[Link: www.notcot.com...]
[Link: www.theage.com.au...]
[Link: www.atlantico-online.net...]
[Link: www.gop.com...]
[Link: nymag.com...]
[Link: graphics8.nytimes.com...]
[Link: www.swamppolitics.com...]

168 stanlef  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:12:48am

re: #90 2blue4u

Re Obama speech: what I did observe is that he looks at the audience only to the sides (left/right) and never straight ahead. Why? (probably because there is no teleprompter ahead)...

Also He doesn't want the insides of his nostrils to show to the camera when he sticks his nose pompously into the air.

/too good for the plebes

169 deepsouthpatriot  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:14:57am

re: #153 maddogg

Not to mention the insurance liability payments and the ambulance chasing lawyers circling like vultures waiting for any child to fall and scratch a knee on the playground.

170 Silhouette  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:15:00am

re: #167 so.cal.swede

Yes, either he is looking up, or the cameraman is obediently at about waist height, making us, the viewer, look up at him.

Reinforces the "father" figure image or great leader image.

171 HDrepub  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:16:42am

re: #167 so.cal.swede

Obama is an arrogant snob, whom I hope is cast into the dustbin of history along with the rest of the pretenders come November.

172 jimmyk  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:20:52am

#139

Bob Hope once said that really great men can laugh at themselves.

Apropos of this, see Borowitz: Obama Releases List of Approved Jokes

Borowitz is usually not to my liking, but this is perfect. (Since he doesn't have a permalink, I'll quote the article):

Obama Releases List of Approved Jokes About Himself
Bid to Help Late Night Comics

Saying he is "sympathetic to late night comedians' struggle to find jokes to make about me," Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill) today issued a list of official campaign-approved Barack Obama jokes.

The five jokes, which Sen. Obama said he is making available to all comedians free of charge, are as follows:

Barack Obama and a kangaroo pull up to a gas station. The gas station attendant takes one look at the kangaroo and says, "You know, we don't get many kangaroos here." Barack Obama replies, "At these prices, I'm not surprised. That's why we need to reduce our dependence on foreign oil."

A traveling salesman knocks on the door of a farmhouse, and much to his surprise, Barack Obama answers the door. The salesman says, "I was expecting the farmer's daughter." Barack Obama replies, "She's not here. The farm was foreclosed on because of subprime loans that are making a mockery of the American Dream."

A horse walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Why the long face?" Barack Obama replies, "His jockey just lost his health insurance, which should be the right of all Americans."

Q: What's black and white and red all over?
Barack Obama: The New Yorker magazine, which should be embarrassed after publishing such a tasteless and offensive cover, which I reject and denounce.

A Christian, a Jew and Barack Obama are in a rowboat in the middle of the ocean. Barack Obama says, "This joke isn't going to work because there's no Muslim in this boat."

173 alegrias  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:22:16am

re: #171 HDrepub

Obama is an arrogant snob, whom I hope is cast into the dustbin of history along with the rest of the pretenders come November.

* * *
Please make it happen, don't just "hope" it happens.

174 deepsouthpatriot  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:25:28am

re: #172 jimmyk

#139

A Christian, a Jew and Barack Obama are in a rowboat in the middle of the ocean. Barack Obama says, "This joke isn't going to work because there's no Muslim in this boat."

Huh, that's not what the New Yorker says.

175 AZDave  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 11:42:49am

re: #8 wiffersnapper

I Doubt the MSM let's it get broadcast much farther than Canada.

Most likely won't make it onto the airwaves. Technical difficulties, you know.

176 frodolives  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 12:32:02pm

re: #172 jimmyk

My first reaction is that this was a spoof. What a dunce.

177 barry the baptist  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 12:41:26pm

re: #87 bulwrk

What? Am I wrong on this?

This is a nice policy speech. Says very little while accomplishing...uh, very little. Just how the govt operates, right?

178 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Jul 15, 2008 6:21:29pm

*in best Obama Voice* I opposed the War in Iraq so therefore I am entitled to become the Commander in Retreat, oh and did I forget to mention that I am also a Christian?!


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