Kind of like the Priest in the Princess Bride?

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

President Bush mentions digging off shore,
Oil drops over 9 dollars a barrel.

We need congress to mention it-

Oil will drop 20 more dollars per barrel.

re: #2 zulubaby

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Absolutely disgusting. Why Israel hasn't completely wiped groups like Hezbollah off the map by now when they have the capability to do so astounds me.

Odd.....be it the demolition of Yankee stadium or pole-dancers plying their trade on Santiago's metro, these past 2 nights an open thread always seems to pop up moments after I make my decidedly waaaaay off-topic comments....

re: #2 zulubaby

Palestinians in the Gaza Strip are handing out sweets to celebrate the handover of two coffins believed to contain the bodies of Israeli soldiers.

Would there be a problem with Israeli/Mossad handing out poison candy to the Palestinians?

re: #2 zulubaby

I was just reading that story about the Gazans celebrating when they saw the coffins of the dead Israelis. The Headline on Jpost in big bold font is "Hizbullah transfers two coffins." Even though we all knew they were probably killed in the attack, but my heart just sank when I read it.

I have never seen 2 societies right next to each other that are so polarized on the fundamentals of human life. Virtually every Israeli feels pain and sadness of the death of innocent people, and on the other side of the border they celebrate when innocents are killed and even when their own are "martyred." Disgusting.

re: #3 ibmkeyboard

President Bush mentions digging off shore,
Oil drops over 9 dollars a barrel.

We need congress to mention it-

Oil will drop 20 more dollars per barrel.

But that might be seen as benefitting the republicans in some way shape or form. Why on earth should they help their constituents when they can drag their feet, blame it on the GOP/Bush admin. and hope that their vapid, inexperienced Windy City hack gets voted in come November.....?

re: #7 PloniAlmoni

I was just reading that story about the Gazans celebrating when they saw the coffins of the dead Israelis. The Headline on Jpost in big bold font is "Hizbullah transfers two coffins." Even though we all knew they were probably killed in the attack, but my heart just sank when I read it.

I have never seen 2 societies right next to each other that are so polarized on the fundamentals of human life. Virtually every Israeli feels pain and sadness of the death of innocent people, and on the other side of the border they celebrate when innocents are killed and even when their own are "martyred." Disgusting.

It's too sad for words.

The pleasure that Hezbollah takes in torture

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

Odd.....be it the demolition of Yankee stadium or pole-dancers plying their trade on Santiago's metro, these past 2 nights an open thread always seems to pop up moments after I make my decidedly waaaaay off-topic comments....

me also.

Jimmy Hoffa buried in the out fields greens lime barrel.

Excellent Front Page interview with Abul Kasem.
Demise of Islam
FP: Absolutely, and it is totally unrealistic to think that Islam will ever disappear.
Kasem: No. Despite the world situation that I just painted, what you say is not true at all.
We learn from the annals of Islamic history that Islam is not that powerful and that it is actually very vulnerable. Much evidence suggests that it may very well die under its own weight.
There is a secret life of Islam and it may very well lead to the death of Islam. The history of Islam, for instance, tells us that Islam needs blood to thrive. Human blood is the life-line of Islam, violence its hallmark, and hate its foundation. In the beginning, Islam lives on the blood of infidels. When that is unavailable, or becomes difficult, Islam must cannibalize itself. As a car needs gasoline to run, so does Islam need human blood just to run its own course, set by Muhammad, its Prophet.
FP: Sounds very much like communism. It starts off extinguishing the “class enemy” and then when there are no more external “enemies” to slaughter, the killing machine turns on itself. Terror takes on a life of its own and the killing machine devours its own children and then ultimately engages in suicide. This totalitarian impulse ultimately stems from a death wish.
Kasem: Precisely. And so the demise of Islam is inherent in the very seed of Islamic cannibalism. And so to understand why Islam, eventually, will self-destruct we must first learn a few lessons from the annals of Islamic history. Let me briefly paint the picture:
During the last few decades we have witnessed Islamic cannibalism right, front and center. The most recent event was the Iran-Iraq war, in which millions of Muslims were killed, not by the infidels (kafirs) but by Muslims. Undoubtedly, in not-too-distant a future, we are bound to witness many such events of Islamic cannibalism.
FP: Is Islamic cannibalism theologically rooted?
Kasem: Absolutely. The earliest example of Islamic cannibalism, after all, is found in the Qur’an itself -- in verses 9:108-110. These verses refer to the gutting of a rival mosque on the instruction of Muhammad, when he was returning after his expedition to Tabuk, a resourceful town in the Syrian-Byzantine territory. This Islamic incursion story goes like this:

Proceeding further from Tabuk on his way to Medina, Muhammad halted at Dhu Awan at Quba (about 4 kms. from Medina), an hour’s journey from Medina. There, an opposition Muslim group had built a mosque. Previously, while Muhammad was making preparations for the march to Tabuk, this group of Muslims approached him and said, “O Messenger of God, we have built a mosque for the sick and needy and for rainy and cold nights, and we would like you to visit us and pray for us”(The History of al Tabari, vol.ix, p.61). Busy with his preparations for Tabuk expedition, Muhammad excused himself from visiting this newly-built mosque, but assured the dissident group that he would call on their mosque while returning to Medina (from Tabuk).

On his return journey from Tabuk and halting at Dhu Awan, Muhammad accused builders of this mosque of being unjust. Without any warning, he sent a band of jihadists to burn and destroy the freshly constructed mosque. He said to his band of hooligans, “Go to this mosque whose owners are unjust people and destroy and burn it” (ibid, p.61). His band of raging arsonists stealthily entered the bustling mosque and set fire to it when it was filled with people assembled for the evening prayer. The worshippers dispersed in utter terror. Allah promptly sent down verse 9:107, 110, justifying the destruction of opposition mosques. To further validate his gutting of this mosque, Muhammad concocted the story that he suspected that the builders of the ‘Mosque of Dissent’ were planning to assassinate him.
Very Detailed and informative interview read the whole thing

Oh and 1000 btw. Am I now a real lizard?

And Samir Kuntar, the bastard piece of shit excuse of a human being who murdered a police officer and a father along with his 4 year-old daughter, is getting a HERO's welcome in Lebanon! How fucking sick is this...how can you welcome someone who bashed in a 4 year old girl's head with a rifle? I just want to throw up.

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

Odd.....be it the demolition of Yankee stadium or pole-dancers plying their trade on Santiago's metro, these past 2 nights an open thread always seems to pop up moments after I make my decidedly waaaaay off-topic comments....

Just as long as you don't inadvertently start off into an off-topic discussion that causes Charles to nearly bite your head off, like I innocently did earlier today (! ! !).

I literally never saw that one coming.

re: #1 Sharmuta

Kind of like the Priest in the Princess Bride?

As you wish.

nre: #15 Slumbering Behemoth

Marrrrriage.

re: #14 NomadOfNorad

I think one of the few times he adressed me specifically was to reiterate the moonbatty ownership of Progressive insurance (something that I already knew, but didn't let on in an earlier post).

re: #12 Neo Con since 9-11

Oh and 1000 btw. Am I now a real lizard?

No

/

Does your skin feel reptilian?

re: #17 Fenway_Nation

eSurance (I think that's the name) also seems to be fairly progressive-ish in their outlook. At least, their commercials seem to be dripping in environmentalist mindset... :-|

good night every one

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

Odd.....be it the demolition of Yankee stadium or pole-dancers plying their trade on Santiago's metro, these past 2 nights an open thread always seems to pop up moments after I make my decidedly waaaaay off-topic comments....

how about pole dancers destroying Yankee Stadium.......

/or would Madonna sue?

re: #15 Slumbering Behemoth

As you wish.

Thanks, Hon. lol "Have you the wing?"

Well....I was commenting on how one of Progressive's taglines- something like 'Making all the decisions for you, now that's Progressive'- seemed to inadvertently bleed over from the world of car insurance to the 'progressive' outlook on the world....like everyone out there is sayin 'Oh help! Save me from all these decisions I must make!'.....

Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.
Count Rugen: Stop saying that!

I love that movie.

Later lizards,

I just got up to comb my hair.

/what the hell you people doing up this late?

heh

re: #21 redc1c4

how about pole dancers destroying Yankee Stadium.......

BEST
PROMOTION
EVER!

re: #18 AmeriDan

No it feels like I spent most of yesterday pulling poison ivy. Unfortunately not this Poison Ivy

re: #12 Neo Con since 9-11

Oh and 1000 btw. Am I now a real lizard?

taken you long enough.....but if you have to ask. %-)

re: #24 ibmkeyboard

I love that movie.

Later lizards,

I just got up to comb my hair.

/what the hell you people doing up this late?

heh

We're combing our hair too. This is the hair comb thread,

Welcome!

Oh, and we also had to pee. Stick around for 30 minutes and you'll get a fruit cup.

;)

re: #24 ibmkeyboard

I love that movie.

Later lizards,

I just got up to comb my hair.

/what the hell you people doing up this late?

heh

still early here......it's only been today for about 90 mikes.

/and a half bottle of wine %-)

re: #21 redc1c4

how about pole dancers destroying Yankee Stadium.......

/or would Madonna sue?

Uh- you know that's the latest fitness craze, right?

re: #24 ibmkeyboard

I don't know what I'm doing up this late, either. Just hanging out a little longer wondering if Charles isn't going to "thwack" me for my earlier comment in this thread. (Probably not, but there's still that thought gnawing away at the back of my mind as I contemplate heading to bed now...)

re: #28 AmeriDan

We're combing our hair too. This is the hair comb thread,

Welcome!

Oh, and we also had to pee. Stick around for 30 minutes and you'll get a fruit cup.

;)

and about 30 minutes after that, you'll get an experience.

re: #27 redc1c4

taken you long enough

I'm a taciturn fella. I rarely speak so I've taken extra long to get to the 4 digit mark. Thanks for noticing tho

re: #30 Sharmuta

Uh- you know that's the latest fitness craze, right?

i was talking about her and what's his name the ball player....

/sheesh

re: #22 Sharmuta

Now you dun did it.

Anybody want a peanut?

And of course, my personal favorite.

Now I'm gonna hafta log of an put that disc in the spinner.

/Best. Film. Evar!

G'nite Lizards!

re: #33 Neo Con since 9-11

I'm a taciturn fella. I rarely speak so I've taken extra long to get to the 4 digit mark. Thanks for noticing tho

that makes one of us.....

/but who's counting? %-)

Other quotes attributed to M. de Montaigne:

A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband.

An unattempted lady could not vaunt of her chastity.

Marriage is like a cage; one sees the birds outside desperate to get in, and those inside equally desperate to get out.

re: #34 redc1c4

i was talking about her and what's his name the ball player....

/sheesh

Sorry- thought it was a fitness thing guys would actually be encouraging.

re: #32 redc1c4

and about 30 minutes after that, you'll get an experience.

I wish.

Now quite typing and comb your hair. Don't go all OT on the hair combing thread!

To Neo,

Just bustin your chops on the hair combing thing. I'm normally lurking when you comment and enjoy reading your post.

See ya round.

re: #31 NomadOfNorad

Mayhaps you were awaiting my august presence...

NOW, you may go to bed, Nomad! :D

re: #34 redc1c4

i was talking about her and what's his name the ball player....

/sheesh

A-Fraud? E-Rod?

re: #40 Karridine

Morning Karridine.

re: #40 Karridine

You wish I was waiting on your arrival... :-P

:-D

re: #43 NomadOfNorad

No?

/dang... *mumble, grumble*

As soon as we hit message number 50, I'll go to bed, tho... :D

/come on, message #50! :D

Morning Karridine. Happy birthday Washington DC and San Diego

re: #42 AmeriDan

And a great Wednesday evening to YOU, AmeriDan!

Seeing as how tomorrow is a Buddhist holy day, to mark the beginning of Lord Buddha's ministry, I have a day Out of the Salt-Mines tomorrow! Yaay!

/then its 'Yo-ho heave, HO! Yo-ho heave, HO!" once more unto the den of human misery and exploitation for this Wage Slave!

How YOU?

re: #46 Neo Con since 9-11

Mornng, Neo!
And just how old IS Wash, DC?

re: #45 NomadOfNorad

As soon as we hit message number 50, I'll go to bed, tho... :D

/come on, message #50! :D

You'll get no help from me in reaching #50.

Oh, wait, forget I typed this comment and subtract one number from all future comments made by anyone on this thread.

re: #47 Karridine

They've declared a Buddhist day a state holiday?

re: #49 AmeriDan

You'll get no help from me in reaching #50.

Oh, wait, forget I typed this comment and subtract one number from all future comments made by anyone on this thread.

LOL! :D :D :D

re: #48 Karridine

Official national capital for 218 years today

re: #50 NomadOfNorad

Nomad, Thailand IS officially a Buddhist nation, a parliamentary monarchy, under Buddhist overview

re: #46 Neo Con since 9-11

Just remember, Neo: There is no spoon! :D

re: #49 AmeriDan
Just "refining' our statement are we?

bad keyboard bad 228 years

re: #50 NomadOfNorad

They've declared a Buddhist day a state holiday?

Oh. I post from the suburbs of Bangkok, where I live with my bilingual sons and my Lao-Thai wife...

re: #47 Karridine

Is it Wednesday already?

I'm good. Enjoy your day out from the working world.

I'm off too...

***DRINK***

re: #53 Karridine

Nomad, Thailand IS officially a Buddhist nation, a parliamentary monarchy, under Buddhist overview

Oh, you're in Thailand? Sorry, I guess I missed that, and assumed you were somewhere here in the USA... Silly me! :-|

re: #56 Neo Con since 9-11

bad keyboard bad 228 years

228! Thanks, Neo

re: #59 NomadOfNorad

That's why I told you, Ma'am... I was NOT laughing or sneering at you, and I recognize that some may know my name but not other pertinent particulars...

Now off to Sleepy-bye with YOU :D

re: #57 Karridine

Oh. I post from the suburbs of Bangkok, where I live with my bilingual sons and my Lao-Thai wife...

I've only been to Thailand once... I've thought it might be neat to live there awhile, but my general impression is that jobs are not that abundant and the work visa thing is a bit screwy, yes?

re: #61 Karridine

Uhhhhhhmmmmm.... I'm a he, not a she. Why are you calling me "Ma'am"? Am I missing something here?

re: #62 freetoken

I've only been to Thailand once... I've thought it might be neat to live there awhile, but my general impression is that jobs are not that abundant and the work visa thing is a bit screwy, yes?

No.
Your impression was accurate up until a big labor-law revision last year. Work permits now pretty rational.

And there's a city of 100,000 non-Thais living here in the Big Mango... 100,000 is a pretty good-sized city in and of itself, so there ARE JOBS and opportunities for the competent and capable, Token!

re: #55 Panhandler

Just "refining' our statement are we?

That is not the statement that I knew. Pointing it out merely shows your divisiveness and doesn't help the Obama children.

You are distracting from my point of not letting the comment count go passed 50.

/

re: #58 AmeriDan

Is it Wednesday already?

I'm good. Enjoy your day out from the working world.

I'm off too...

***DRINK***

the last two items are obvious...... %-)

"CHANGE!"

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

re: #66 redc1c4

"Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine." --tagline

re: #63 NomadOfNorad

I beg your pardon.

I had you flagged/tagged in my memory as 'she'... no fun intended.

re: #65 AmeriDan

The best line is still the one from the Nixon Watergate era - "That statement is no longer operable."
LOL

re: #67 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

colors will be along shortly...... %-)

re: #67 littleoldlady

PERFECT timing, Kiddo! :D

re: #64 Karridine

there ARE JOBS and opportunities for the competent and capable

Well, that leaves me out....

re: #68 NomadOfNorad

"Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine." --tagline

the follow up is supposed to be:
"DRINK!"

no style points for you!

/check your Lizard newsletter archive

Mornin LOL. Are the Vodka packets on the Buffet too?

re: #72 Karridine

PERFECT timing, Kiddo! :D

ahemm..... she was off by *2* seconds.

/hardly perfect

re: #67 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

MMMmmm! Thank you, and welcome to yet another good dead thread where we are all playing nice.

re: #73 freetoken

Well, there IS an abundance of feminine pulchritude here, but I guess if you can't take advantage of it, it'll just go to waist...

re: #69 Karridine

Just remember, my nick was derived from two different supercomputer-ish characters, both of which were (theoretically) masculine: The Nomad probe from Star Trek (which had a male voice, at least), and WOPR, from the movie WarGames, which was codenamed, and addressed as, Joshua (thus also masculine in nature). (WOPR was located at NORAD.)

That should help you remember my gender next time we meet. :D

Now, I'm off to bed... :^D

Karridine! :-)

red! :-)

Dan! :-)

Panhandler! :-)

NomadOfNorad! :-)

freetoken! :-)

Neo! :-)

/scrolling up to see who I missed...

re: #78 Karridine

Typo or Freudian slip?

re: #75 Neo Con since 9-11

Mornin LOL. Are the Vodka packets on the Buffet too?

they're in the fruitcup: i believe in cutting out the middleman and as many productions steps as possible. %-)

re: #76 redc1c4

ahemm..... she was off by *2* seconds.

/hardly perfect

*Ahem!* She caught the PERFECT palindrome, as per other perfect posts... 2 (that's TWO, to YOU, Red!) count them, TWO seconds AFTER 2 A of the M!

Hah!

re: #78 Karridine

Well, there IS an abundance of feminine pulchritude here, but I guess if you can't take advantage of it, it'll just go to waist...

tit's amazing what a little gravity can do......

re: #79 NomadOfNorad

So read this tomorrow, and thanks for the mnemonic, but your nic led ME to envision a Crumbsnatcher in a NORAD family, constantly moving from assignment to assignment for the North American yadda...

But you're MALE.
Got it! G'nite, Nomad

re: #84 redc1c4

tit's amazing what a little gravity can do......

You sir, are punny.

re: #78 Karridine

Feminine pulchritude has its appeal... I admit... but one must find something worth doing that is financially beneficial too... and therein lay the problem...

re: #83 Karridine

*Ahem!* She caught the PERFECT palindrome, as per other perfect posts... 2 (that's TWO, to YOU, Red!) count them, TWO seconds AFTER 2 A of the M!

Hah!

the max effective range of an excuse is zero (0) meters.

as i told my students once :
"on time is like being pregnant. either you are or you aren't."

HTH!

re: #81 Panhandler

Typo or Freudian slip?

Neither. Just my wordsmithy style, Pan!

re: #86 AmeriDan

You sir, are punny.

it's the breast i can do with the material......

re: #87 freetoken

Well, I'll bite: What's your calling, your field(s) of ex-spurt-eeze?

What can you DO, Token?

re: #80 littleoldlady

Hello lol!

No, you didn't miss me........ :)

I hope you are well!

Do you have any news of Miguel?

re: #89 Karridine
Author,promotor, SEO specialist(retired) - AND he can tap dance!

re: #88 redc1c4

So, I'll accept your non-excusing response, as MY comment was praising her post, and explaining WHY it was never aimed at 0200, but at 2:00:02

Check back a couple weeks... she AIMS for 2:00:02, red

Two seconds off, is bad. :-( But not as bad as my usual 4 numbers away from winning the Powerball.

/sometimes 6
//THAT'S bad. :-( :-( :-(

You boys are lucky I'm not awake yet or I'd have to beat you all...

_{^{The breast you can do? ARG!}}

re: #92 Sprite

Hello lol!

No, you didn't miss me........ :)

I hope you are well!

Do you have any news of Miguel?

I was lurking earlier this evening on the last thread. He did a drive by comment. By the funny tone of it... he seems to be doing OK.

re: #95 littleoldlady

Oh goody! After fruitcup we'll all have a spanking. A spanking!

re: #93 Panhandler

Spinal Tap dance?

Well, as author there is a LOT of material here for an English-language novel, travelogue, graphic coffee-table glossy, murder mystery or humorous short-story collection.

I'm friends with some of the expat authors who've published (at a profit!) just those books...

re: #96 AmeriDan

Thank you, Dan. Now I'll shoot off an email. Very much relieved...

Karridine!

/MY HERO! ;-)

Hi Sprite! :-)

Evidently realwest spoke to Miguel on the phone and he's doing well - as well as can be expected, anyway. His son and daughter-in-law have come to stay with him for a while and help out, which is nice. He flits in and out of here once in a while, but he says his typing was affected (or is that Effected? Karridine!) by the stroke, and I think he's understandably tired more often than not.

re: #97 Panhandler

I get the hairbrush! ME FIRST!

re: #91 Karridine

Oh... I was more rambling that asking for any special advice...

What do I do? I dance a little... and of late have developed a strange fondness for tasting fruitcup....

re: #99 Sprite

Thank you, Dan. Now I'll shoot off an email. Very much relieved...

If you would like my opinion, please send him an email, but add that he doesn't have to respond anytime soon. Just give him your best wishes.

re: #92 Sprite

Hello lol!

No, you didn't miss me........ :)

I hope you are well!

Do you have any news of Miguel?

he was kidnapped by aliens, and subjected to a variety of tests and indignities....like Cartman.

Well, I must be off... but I will leave you all with one final quote attributed to our philosopher of the day, M. de Montaigne:

The value of life lies not in the length of days, but in the use we make of them... Whether you find satisfaction in life depends not on your tale of years, but on your will.

re: #100 littleoldlady

It's affected... ;) Or....... haha.

Thanks, lol, for the update! I will write to him.

Take good care, Lizards.

re: #95 littleoldlady

Two seconds off, is bad. :-( But not as bad as my usual 4 numbers away from winning the Powerball.

/sometimes 6
//THAT'S bad. :-( :-( :-(

You boys are lucky I'm not awake yet or I'd have to beat you all...

_{^{The breast you can do? ARG!}}

tit's ok: you can nip this in the bud.......

/or, maybe not. %-)

re: #100 littleoldlady

Karridine!

/MY HERO! ;-)

Hi Sprite! :-)

Evidently realwest spoke to Miguel on the phone and he's doing well - as well as can be expected, anyway. His son and daughter-in-law have come to stay with him for a while and help out, which is nice. He flits in and out of here once in a while, but he says his typing was affected (or is that Effected? Karridine!) by the stroke, and I think he's understandably tired more often than not.

concur.... that's what i got from the posts i read.

that and he takes great comfort in the encompassing lizard swarm of concern.

re: #102 freetoken

Well, there ARE paying jobs here for dancers... and the jobs are 'exotic' even though the dancing may not be...

But okay, just spinning a thread out with some friendly banter, I'll accept that!

/what KIND of dance, Free? Tap? Ballet? Break? Ballroom? Tango? Jitterbug? Black Bottom? Mime?

re: #104 redc1c4

Yikes! hahaha

Well, I've had my fill of alcohol laced fruit cup and fine conversation so I'm off to bed.

Goodnight Lizards.

Just picked up a new (to me) description for Obama droids at algre's corner - They've been "hopenitized".

'Night, Dan! :-)

Like sheeps in the night...
_{© Archie Bunker}

re: #112 Panhandler

That's a keeper! :-)

re: #112 Panhandler

Just picked up a new (to me) description for Obama droids at algre's corner - They've been "hopenitized".

HOPEnetized! THAT is GOOD, Pan!

re: #109 Karridine

/what KIND of dance, Free? Tap? Ballet? Break? Ballroom? Tango? Jitterbug? Black Bottom? Mime?

These days only a little bit of partner dancing... over the years I've taken classes in theatrical (mostly modern and musical theater) too... but never to perform, just for study of it... it is a great way to stay young.

G'night all....

re: #116 freetoken

... and he does a double-shuffle, stage right...

G'nite!

re: #116 freetoken

it is a great way to stay young.

Then why do I feel SO OLD the day after a night of dancing?!

;-)

'Night, freetoken! :-)

AAARGH!

Attn: Sharmuta, I meant to click the NUMBER, not the upding!
Ack! Mea Culpa!

/dang, #498 Islamism Online

re: #114 littleoldlady

re: #115 Karridine

That site is very interesting. It is a civilized suport group for Clinton. They've been phone banking Democrat super delegates to get them to change over to Clinton. One of them pointed out that the best reason for Obama's acceptance speech at the football field is so that they can pack the stadium with non delegate droids to skew the coverage and make it look like Obama is the one and only. Also going on about how Obama is placing his people in all the state and county offices of the DNC to ensure his election and the heck with anybody else.

Hi Everyone!

I just logged on so I don't know if it was reported here yet but Israel has received 2 coffins from Hezbollah.

Genghis Khan knew how to deal with arrogant Muslims. The fact is Hezbollah could not get away with its depraved atrocities if not for the unstinting support of a large segment of the global media. In some cases, this is indirect, through the usual devices of propaganda and advertising such as selective emphasis, invited inference, and false equivalence. Others, especially in the UK, are quite open in the love for the demonic cult, praising Hezbollah to the rafters and revelling in its license to commit atrocity after atrocity.

This must end.

The Israeli government, and Israel's supporters throughout the world, must understand that there is no point in trying to appease the establishment media. The media are not with the enemy, they ARE the enemy.

I propose the following:
All pro-Hezbollah media to be expelled from Israel at once, the determination of pro-Hezbollah status to be made by a special commission of experts in rhetoric, forensics, and communications theory.
Any assets of pro-Hezbollah media or their principals within Israeli reach to be confiscated and the proceeds distributed to the families of Hezbollah's victims.
Open Hezbollah propagandists such as Fisk, Pilger and Raven to be arrested if possible and tried under the Julius Streicher precedent.

All Hezbollah and Palestinian prisoners convicted of murder to be executed immediately, and their remains repatriated in the same condition as the those of Israelis murdered by Hezbollah.

re: #120 Panhandler

Election NOT on merit, but by manipulation!
Dang!

Thanks for the hedzup, Handler!

re: #121 little blessing

Zulubaby hit it on the previous thread with updates from the Israeli press. Don't hear from her all that often since she moved to Israel but she does get on line for the important, breaking stuff.

re: #124 Panhandler

Thanks for the heads up.

Even though the chances of the Israeli's being alive was minimal, the finality of seeing the coffins upset me so immensely. What then infuriated me was knowing that the country that celebrates life yet villified continuously by the world, is releasing alive a vicious murderer to a group of vicious killers who celebrate death.

It is so sad.

Anybody see Blue or know how he is holding up?

BBiaW

re: #3 ibmkeyboard

Then the eco-lobby starts whining and people shut up about it. =_=

re: #127 little blessing

He was on the Hostage rescue thread @8:30PM PDT cracking a few bon mots. Seems to be holding up OK.

Wait for the world to condemn the damn murderous Arabs ... Until you die...

Why didn't they kill Kuntar after they got the coffins... Why?

Concurrent with the attacks on Iran's nuclear facilities, Israel should launch a lightning offensive into Lebanon with the objective of isolating the Hezbollah forces, which will then be destroyed piecemeal.

There should be no quarter shown and the offensive should continue at any cost and by any means necessary until literally not one Hezbollah member is left alive anywhere in the world. Hezbollah's own media agents in particular should be treated as instigators of terrorism and genocide and dealt with accordingly.

So called international opinion is manipulated by the enemy media, and should be given no more consideration than Churchill did to the ravings of Goebbels and Streicher. At the same time, Hezbollah and its supporters have manifestly, even gleefully, placed themselves beyond the domain of any civilized law or code of conduct and are not entitled to their protections.

I can't tell you how depressing it is to hear the news today. There is deep sadness for the families of the kidnapped soldiers, who hoped against hope that they were still alive, and there is deep sadness for the families of the victims of Kuntar and the other terrorists, who must be extremely frustrated now.

The only comfort is my faith that G-d is the true judge and that everyone gets what they deserve in the end.

re: #127 little blessing

Anybody see Blue or know how he is holding up?

his dog died and the doll won't hold air.

other than that, he's as okay as you'd expect, eh?

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

Odd.....be it the demolition of Yankee stadium or pole-dancers plying their trade on Santiago's metro, these past 2 nights an open thread always seems to pop up moments after I make my decidedly waaaaay off-topic comments....

will they be handing out sweets in fenway park when yankee stadium is dust?

Forgive me for revising and re-posting but...

Its time to label ID and Islamofascism what they really are. Pro-ignorance movements.

Update: Troofers added to P-Ig movement list also.

And the Global Warming wackos are really getting close to that designation also.

There's others under review.

re: #68 NomadOfNorad

"Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine." --tagline

"You get nothing for a nickel. Twice as much for a dime."

--Ray Stevens, The Vending Machine Song

re: #132 shiplord kirel
Israel should strike now. Do it while the Bush Administration has a UN Ambassador. At the same time put Obama between a rock & a hard place. He would probably try to nuance his response & alienate everybody.

Oops, forgot. Good Morning Lizards.

re: #126 bobbytimbo

Even though the chances of the Israeli's being alive was minimal, the finality of seeing the coffins upset me so immensely. What then infuriated me was knowing that the country that celebrates life yet villified continuously by the world, is releasing alive a vicious murderer to a group of vicious killers who celebrate death.

It is so sad.

This type of appeasement feeds the beast.

re: #8 Fenway_Nation

you noticed everything is for the benifit of the party AMERICA CAN GO TO HELL FOR ALL THE DONKS CARE.

Speaking of nonsense, can anyone load me $1,000? I need to make a beer run.

Should that quote have been "talking nonsense" rather than "taking nonsense"?

Good morning, Lizards.

[Link: sendables.jibjab.com...]

new jib jab video its a must see

re: #136 unclassifiable

Forgive me for revising and re-posting but...

Its time to label ID and Islamofascism what they really are. Pro-ignorance movements.

Update: Troofers added to P-Ig movement list also.

And the Global Warming wackos are really getting close to that designation also.

There's others under review.

Careful there. You'll "offend" somebody, sooner or later...

obama is taking chuck hagel with him to Israel and Iraq so is that making obama the bride of chuckie?

re: #133 westbankmama

I can't tell you how depressing it is to hear the news today. There is deep sadness for the families of the kidnapped soldiers, who hoped against hope that they were still alive, and there is deep sadness for the families of the victims of Kuntar and the other terrorists, who must be extremely frustrated now.

The only comfort is my faith that G-d is the true judge and that everyone gets what they deserve in the end.

I wish people took time out today and went back in time to read articles of 2 summers ago about the war and the 3 kidnappings.

re: #145 JimmyTheClaw

[Link: sendables.jibjab.com...]

new jib jab video its a must see

Thanks for that. Am I supposed to recognize who the default "voter" is, or is that an inside joke?

re: #145 JimmyTheClaw

[Link: sendables.jibjab.com...]

new jib jab video its a must see

Not bad. Better last time. New Yorker still in first this week.

re: #150 infidelia

Not bad. Better last time. New Yorker still in first this week.

Yes, but JibJab was satire.

re: #151 Dar ul Harb

Yes, but JibJab was satire.

*snicker*

Any chance Israel will return the murderer in a box? there is still time,isn't there?

Good morning Lizards!
{GOC}
how is everyone today?

Security Solutions International Takes On CAIR After Attacks of Counter-Terror Programs:

"It is inconceivable that a course designed for Law Enforcement and taught by a Muslim, in which we stress that racial, ethnic or religious profiling is wrong but also poor counter terrorism technique, is the subject of political pressure in certain jurisdictions because of CAIR"... "and we will continue to organize events - even more than before - in places like Seattle where we can do the most good and help First Responders protect all Americans whether they are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu or any other religious belief against the Global Jihad even in its legal form with organizations like these."... "If we do not put ourselves in the front of the defense of the USA, what use is the training we have provided to more than 500 Government agencies?"..."If groups like this are allowed to get away with being a Fifth Column in the USA our First Responders will be weakened; we will fight this strategy of using the laws of the freest democratic country on Earth and exploiting our own freedoms to help terrorists."...The company will be setting up a non-profit so that many of its 100,000 contacts can contribute to the fight against this US Fifth Column and help defend the US against this kind of lawfare waged by the Jihad in many Democratic countries... (read more)

It turns my stomach to imagine that a child killer is free today in exchange for two dead soldiers. Israel, you don't honor the sacrifice of your bravest by destroying what they are trying to defend. That monster should have never seen the light of day again. I can't imagine how those soldiers were killed or what they went through, only to have their honor squashed and their sacrifice soiled by their own government.
While we morn, there is parade in Lebanon.

re: #153 madisonsfriend

Any chance Israel will return the murderer in a box? there is still time,isn't there?

You just do not trade a living mass murderer for dead bodies.This feeds into Islamic triumphalism and puts innocents at risk.

re: #153 madisonsfriend

Never happen. I wish it would, but it won't.

re: #156 solergic

It turns my stomach to imagine that a child killer is free today in exchange for two dead soldiers. Israel, you don't honor the sacrifice of your bravest by destroying what they are trying to defend. That monster should have never seen the light of day again. I can't imagine how those soldiers were killed or what they went through, only to have their honor squashed and their sacrifice soiled by their own government.
While we morn, there is parade in Lebanon.

THIS IS WHY ISRAEL AND AMERICA SHOULD HAVE THE DEATH PEN.

TERRORIST SHOULD BECOME WORM MUNCH.

re: #158 Wyatt Earp

It gets worse. Unconfirmed rumors: the bodies were badly mutilated and at least one of the soldiers were tortured before death.

Baruch Dayan Emet. I wish I could see some silver lining in this.

re: #157 opnion

You just do not trade a living mass murderer for dead bodies.This feeds into Islamic triumphalism and puts innocents at risk.

I agree so there is still time to make him a non-living mass murderer. Accidents happen- on his way out of the prison- a gun happens to go off in his direction.

re: #160 Shamai

It gets worse. Unconfirmed rumors: the bodies were badly mutilated and at least one of the soldiers were tortured before death.

Baruch Dayan Emet. I wish I could see some silver lining in this.

And if this is true- the world still won't learn that the killers are worse than animals.

Israel HAS the death penalty... It was used one with Eichmann... But there has been a consensus for the last 35 years not to use them against terrorists...

re: #160 Shamai

It gets worse. Unconfirmed rumors: the bodies were badly mutilated and at least one of the soldiers were tortured before death.

Baruch Dayan Emet. I wish I could see some silver lining in this.

Would have actually been surprising if they were not tortured.
If forensics establish that the soldiers were tortured call a huge press conference. Expose what happened & call off the deal.

Is that quote like talking nonsense?

Good morning Lizards.........

EVIL MOMZARIUM EVIL BASTARDS

OLMERT

re: #166 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards.........

Good Morning guitar master! Coffee sir?

re: #168 HoosierHoops

Good Morning guitar master! Coffee sir?

Of course, I'll take it black, with plenty of cream and sugar... ;)

re: #164 opnion

I agree. Unfortunately the Israeli government is completely inept when it comes to handling PR.

re: #169 doriangrey

Of course, I'll take it black, with plenty of cream and sugar... ;)

That's what I'm here for! :)

*POOF!*

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

I'm absolutely gobsmacked with work this week and have had little or no time to post, dogdangitall. Curses!

{realwest}

For when you arrive *smoochie-smooch* *SMOOOOOOOOOOOOOCH*

Hope you are having a good day and I'll see if I can talk atcha later, luv.

Have a great day folks.

*POOF!*

Good morning, HoosierHoops!

re: #173 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, HoosierHoops!

Good Morning..just for the record..the dog ate my homework..

re: #171 goddessoftheclassroom

That's what I'm here for! :)

Good morning goddess... ((goddess))....

re: #174 HoosierHoops

Good Morning..just for the record..the dog ate my homework..

Dang it... I used to have a dong that did that all the damned time... what a good dog.... lol...lol...lol...

re: #170 solergic

I agree. Unfortunately the Israeli government is completely inept when it comes to handling PR.

Maybe Karen Hughes is available..

re: #170 solergic

I agree. Unfortunately the Israeli government is completely inept when it comes to handling PR.

That seems to be true. As awful as this is, it is an opportunity to shine light on just what they are up against.
I am guessing that undisclosed torture would obviate the agreement.
Let them have the bodies of dead terrorists, but not the living.
Definitely not the savage that bashed the little girls head in.

re: #177 HoosierHoops

Maybe Karen Hughes is available..

Hell I think they need Baghdad Bob...

re: #179 doriangrey

Hell I think they need Baghdad Bob...

Roll out the big gun. This is a job for the Obama!

When Israel is ready to give up as much for their soldiers dead, as alive, what incentivce do your enemies have of keeping your POW's alive? This deal will be responsible for the deaths of many Israelis in the future. SAD!
Ajay Kaur - India

A Indian get it but then the pakistan butchered Indian POW'S just like the arabs do. I can't remember any Israeli POW ever coming home alive.

re: #178 opnion

That seems to be true. As awful as this is, it is an opportunity to shine light on just what they are up against.
I am guessing that undisclosed torture would obviate the agreement.
Let them have the bodies of dead terrorists, but not the living.
Definitely not the savage that bashed the little girls head in.

The Israeli's probably put a tracking device on the bastard and a couple of weeks from now a missile will strike the car he and some of his terrorists buddies are riding in...

ABC News Caught In More Lies!
Just in case you happened to see the ABC News (if you watched ABC News) with interviews of 5 military folks in Iraq - 3 planned to vote for Obama and 2 for Hillary; no mention of any McCain supporters. Well, here's the "Rest of the Story."
************************************************** *
This is from Major General (ret) Buckman, a close friend of ours. **************************************************
My niece, Katelyn, stationed at Baluud , Iraq , was assigned with others of her unit, to be escorted/guarded/ watched out for Martha Raddatz, of ABC News, as she covered John McCain's recent trip to Iraq . Katelyn and her Captain stood directly behind Raddatz as she queried GI's walking past. They kept count of the GI's and you should remember these numbers.
She asked 60 GI's who they planned to vote for, in November, '08.

54 soldier's said John McCain,
4 for Obama and
2 for Hillary.

Katelyn called home and told her Mom and Dad to watch ABC news the next night because she was standing directly behind Raddatz and maybe they'd see her on TV. Mom and Dad of course, called and emailed all the kinfolk to watch the newscast and maybe see Katelyn. Well, of course, we all watched and what we saw wasn't a glimpse of Katelyn, but got a hell'ava view of skewed news.
After a dissertation on McCain's trip and speech, ABC showed 5 GI's
being asked by Raddatz how they were going to vote in November;
3 for Obama and
2 for Clinton .
No mention of the 54 for McCain.

re: #182 doriangrey

The Israeli's probably put a tracking device on the bastard and a couple of weeks from now a missile will strike the car he and some of his terrorists buddies are riding in...

Sweet!

Captain Ed, over at HotAir has an interesting article on the war in Afghanistan. The US and NATO supposedly are massing troops along the Pakistani border for a massive attack on al-Qaeda and Taleban bases in the lawless North Waziristan tribal belt in Pakistan.

re: #184 opnion

Sweet!

Lets just say that it wouldnt be the first time Israel did something like this...

re: #185 doriangrey

Captain Ed, over at HotAir has an interesting article on the war in Afghanistan. The US and NATO supposedly are massing troops along the Pakistani border for a massive attack on al-Qaeda and Taleban bases in the lawless North Waziristan tribal belt in Pakistan.

Do it. Pakistan is not our friend. They were huge supporters of the Talibal until we invaded,& now they humor us.

re: #187 opnion

Do it. Pakistan is not our friend. They were huge supporters of the Talibal until we invaded,& now they humor us.

It's not Pakistan that is not our friend, its a small uneducated fanatically Muslim segment of their population that are not our friends..

UN Chief: I hope exchange marks beginning of many swaps to come in the future (AP)

Speechless.

No one is exempt from taking talking nonsense; the misfortune is to do it solemnly.

I think there was a one-letter typo there...

re: #190 Karridine

I think there was a one-letter typo there...

...the moron said, solemnly!

/Sheesh! God LOVES laughter, and I still miss the joke! :P

Ooog!

Thread-Killer strikes again... :-(

Okay, I'm outta here.

You ain't gonna pin THIS death on me, Coppers!

re: #193 Karridine

Okay, I'm outta here.

You ain't gonna pin THIS death on me, Coppers!

Murderer!

יִתְגַּ& #1491;ַּל וְיִתְק& #1463;דַּשׁ שְׁמֵהּ רַבָּא

re: #194 MandyManners

Murderer!

{MandyManners}

Now that the bodies of the 2 Israeli POW's have been confirmed;
Israel is ready to trade 5 live and 200 dead prisoners for those 2 dead Isreali soldiers...WTF?

Good Morning lizards.

Mandy, GotC, Xarridine, Yochanan, ZB, Dorian, Opnion, C-in-C...

How ya be?

Today I will open my business and pray for customers to come in. Over the last 8 weeks our sales have dropped by 30%! We hear, repeatedly, people bemoaning the economy and the last two days, comments about whether the banks will be around much longer.
Yesterday, a friend who owns another business called and said she is hanging on by her fingernails. It is a 10 year business that serves commercial accounts. I've decided it's the media that is driving this all down, down, down. I watched the local morning news this morning, then the National ABC news. Every other comment seemed connected to the dismal economy and how people can't afford basics anymore. It was so depressing I felt as though we are all doomed.
The sad reality of the matter is that in our community:
*Unemployment is 2.3%
*The average sale time of a house in the $150K-$200K price range=60 days
*The average median household income is $64,321
*We have experienced no large corporate lay-offs or closings in the last 12 months
People are being fed doom and gloom by the media and small business is taking the brunt of it. God help us.
If her business goes under there are 14 people out of work, if mine goes under there will be 5 people out of work and if my next door neighbor, a bistro, goes out there will be 39 people out of work.
Yet these customers will drive to the farmers market on Saturday and buy fresh, local produce that costs 30% more than at the grocery store while sipping on their 12oz $1.39 bottle of water and then cry about how they have to fill their Escalade with a $100 dollar bill.
Thanks for the rant time, I need to go to work now.

re: #196 goddessoftheclassroom

'Sup?

Morning all, did I miss anything important?

/besides the skewed paleo-IDF body exchange.

re: #198 haakondahl

I'm finer than a frog's hair split three ways. How're you?

re: #185 doriangrey

Captain Ed, over at HotAir has an interesting article on the war in Afghanistan. The US and NATO supposedly are massing troops along the Pakistani border for a massive attack on al-Qaeda and Taleban bases in the lawless North Waziristan tribal belt in Pakistan.

I certainly hope so. I hope that what is going on is that the U.S. and Pakistani governments are

{MandyManners}
{jorline}

good morning!

I awoke today with a very heavy heart. I don't often feel this way, especially since the birth of my first son 4 months ago, but the news that Regev and Goldwasser were returned in Coffins, murdered at the hands of Hezbollah animals in exchange for one of the most vile terrorists to ever live turned my stomach in a way I have not felt since the lost of my lovely Gila at the hands of a suicide bomber in 2002. I am angry, I want revenge. Why did we not kill Kuntar the moment we were aware of the soldiers fate. Why are we not raining bombs down on the celebrations in Lebanon, Gaza, and Judea and Sumeria? Why because Israel always has and always will take the higher ethical ground than these insane murderous beasts. We will never become them, but just as Nazi Germany had to be eradicated at any cost, it is time for the Israeli Govt to end this nonsense of trading an inch of anything for peace. They want peace, they can have it, the same way the barbarous Japanese and German Regimes received theirs. The time to act is now. It is time to strike a blow so intense that there is no longer anything but capitulation. How much longer must Israel be forced to endure this charade. It gets worse by the day.

Today is a very sad day. War is near, this time victory must be absolute. Yes I mean absolute to the point of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

As my dad fought in Okinawa, no soldier thought they would come home alive from an invasion of mainland Japan. Yet they all fought, and watched as their brothers in arms died taking tiny portions of a little Island. Interesting how the bomb changed everything.

Everything needs to be changed now, before it's to late.

Good morning, Lizards! Lovely day in Las Cruces, except for my cold.

re: #204 HoosierHoops

Howdy!

re: #206 songbird

Good morning, Lizards! Lovely day in Las Cruces, except for my cold.

My cold is insignificant compared to the state of the world today.

re: #205 steveoh

((((((steveoh))))))

re: #185 doriangrey

Captain Ed, over at HotAir has an interesting article on the war in Afghanistan. The US and NATO supposedly are massing troops along the Pakistani border for a massive attack on al-Qaeda and Taleban bases in the lawless North Waziristan tribal belt in Pakistan.

I certainly hope so. I hope that what is going on is that the U.S. and Pakistani governments are playing good cop and bad cop so that the Pakistani people will rally behind the Musharraf government while the U.S goes in there and gets business done. That sounds like a promising end-of-term maneuver for the Bush Administration. If Musharraf stays in power, things are better than if not, and if not, then we certainly weren't going to get permission to go in anyway.
This way, we get to go in while simultaneously bolstering the increasingly shaky Musharraf government.
Fingers crossed.

re: #199 Capitalistincharge

I've decided it's the media that is driving this all down, down, down. I watched the local morning news this morning, then the National ABC news. Every other comment seemed connected to the dismal economy and how people can't afford basics anymore. It was so depressing I felt as though we are all doomed.
The sad reality of the matter is that in our community:
*Unemployment is 2.3%
*The average sale time of a house in the $150K-$200K price range=60 days
*The average median household income is $64,321
*We have experienced no large corporate lay-offs or closings in the last 12 months

I agree.

As an Economist, I have been professionally tracking and analyzing the economy for close to 30 years now, during which we have experienced one of the largest sustained economic growth periods in history.

Never once during all that time can I recall the MSM doing a story that things were going pretty good.

I paid approximately $9 a gallon for gasoline in Ireland in June, yet all you hear in the US media is about how crippeling $4 a gallon is here.

Are things a bit shaky in the economy right now? Yes. But this is hardly October of 1929 again. There is a lot of panic pedaling going on in the media.

I do think that a lot of it is left wing bias in the media with an election coming up. If Obama wins the election in November, suddenly you will see stories about how the air is suddenly fresher, the economy is suddenly a lot better, we won the war, etc.

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. A bittersweet day for the Goldwasser and Regev families, as their loved ones are returned home - in coffins.

Hizbullah celebrates and treats the release of Kuntar the terrorist as a national hero. Abbas congratulates Kuntar, and the Palestinians pass out sweets for the release of the child murdering terrorist.

Meanwhile, we are swiftly approaching the Rubicon in Pakistan as reports indicate that NATO and Afghan forces are preparing to go after Taliban and al Qaeda inside Pakistan. That follows attacks where Pakistani forces were captured on video engaging in attacks alongside Taliban and al Qaeda elements on Afghan and ISAF forces inside Afghanistan.

re: #205 steveoh

I still like that one fellow's idea: NUKE THE MOON. You would see revolutions from Libya to Indonesia, as the suddenly awakened peoples of those benighted regimes sought not to oppose the U.S. And if there's any crap about it--well, we warned you once.

re: #199 Capitalistincharge

Thanks for the reality check. I see it here, too. Were it not for a contract I just pulled down, we'd be closing up at the end of the year. And with one breath people are complaining that the wolf is at the door, while with the next they're bemoaning how the good chai place has changed owners, so everyone's having to go to the other chai place. Toward the end of the Hapsburgs it was said about Austria that the situation was critical but not serious. I guess the good news is that history does not repeat itself.
/It does rhyme, though. Or so said Twain.

I pray that Israel has a plan to get Kuntae as soon as he is free. I am literally sick at hearing the Palis on the news(co-worker's radio) celebrating.

re: #212 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. A bittersweet day for the Goldwasser and Regev families, as their loved ones are returned home - in coffins.

Hizbullah celebrates and treats the release of Kuntar the terrorist as a national hero. Abbas congratulates Kuntar, and the Palestinians pass out sweets for the release of the child murdering terrorist.

Meanwhile, we are swiftly approaching the Rubicon in Pakistan as reports indicate that NATO and Afghan forces are preparing to go after Taliban and al Qaeda inside Pakistan. That follows attacks where Pakistani forces were captured on video engaging in attacks alongside Taliban and al Qaeda elements on Afghan and ISAF forces inside Afghanistan.

I had hoped to see bombs rain down on those assembled to cart the bodies of the two Israeli soldiers to the meeting place. Tell the filthy bastards that 'this is what you get any time we see a dead Israeli soldier anywhere near your ragtag forces'.

But no. I wonder if the Israelis thanked the men who delivered the bodies. I wonder if the Israelis gave them a tip.

No one is exempt from taking nonsense; the misfortune is to do it solemnly.

I don't understand what "taking nonsense" means.

Is it supposed to be talking nonsense?

Is it Michael Eyquem de Montaigne?

Or maybe it is Michel Eyquem de Montaigne?

re: #213 haakondahl

I still like that one fellow's idea: NUKE THE MOON. You would see revolutions from Libya to Indonesia, as the suddenly awakened peoples of those benighted regimes sought not to oppose the U.S. And if there's any crap about it--well, we warned you once.

/what did the moon ever do to you?
/

re: #218 HoosierHoops

/what did the moon ever do to you?
/

// Because it was there.

re: #218 HoosierHoops

/what did the moon ever do to you?
/

// And I don't much care for those who worship it and insist that I do too.

Speaking of the market:

U.S. stock futures lower before wave of data

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stock futures edged lower on Wednesday, with Intel's bullish outlook not enough to spur a rally ahead of a wave of economic data, more earnings reports and continued doubts over financial-sector health.
S&P 500 futures fell 6 points to 1,205.50 and Nasdaq 100 futures dropped 5.75 points to 1,793.25. Dow industrial futures fell 35 points.
U.S. stocks ended mostly lower on Tuesday, with unease about the government's ability to prop up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke's pessimistic testimony in the Senate offsetting a $6 drop in crude-oil futures.

The S&P 500 has dropped about 11% since April 1st. I really don't know where the comment about "unease about the government's ability to prop up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac" is coming from, cause they still have trillions of dollars of good loans in Fannine Mae and Freddy Mac and the volume of defaulted mortgages that has been reported is about 2 tenths of 1%.

The whole key to me is the price of oil. If you get some stabilization in the price of oil, perhaps even a bit of a drop, things should settle down.

re: #218 HoosierHoops

It's lunacy.

re: #220 haakondahl

// And I don't much care for those who worship it and insist that I do too.

Well its a marvelous night for a moon dance...
/crap that song is going stick in my head now...

Good morning.

Civilization Ending Alert!

I just laughed my head off at a Maureen Daoud opinion piece.

LOL!

re: #221 3 wood

It's not the government's ability to prop up Fraudi Mac and Scammie Mae. The government could do it. The problem is whether they should and why.

re: #202 MandyManners

I'm finer than a frog's hair split three ways. How're you?

I'm finer than the difference between Scott McClellan and a mumbling, bumbling, stuttering, stammering God-Damned Liar with sweaty palms and a shit-eating grimace on that parking lot for fat that he calls a face.

re: #211 3 wood

Would it be silly of me to think the images of people waiting in line to liquidate their cash from the bank smells like the Obama fainting spells?

Not having the background you do, I can remember a time when we measured poverty via material goods in the population.

Nutrition, food, eating enough. It still seems we have the opposite problem.

Cell phones. Everyone is talking on them.

Internet.

Wide screen televisions.

Not one car, but two.

It is not perfect, but far, far, far from the times of my grandfather and his brother walking along the railroad tracks picking up cigarette butts to make a full smoke for their dad who was out of work.

Later, they went into the CCC's.

It seems blatant to me.

re: #223 HoosierHoops

Well its a marvelous night for a moon dance...
/crap that song is going stick in my head now...

If we're talking about moons, I prefer this song......

{Hoosier} Hope you're well this morning.

re: #216 haakondahl

But no. I wonder if the Israelis thanked the men who delivered the bodies. I wonder if the Israelis gave them a tip.

Yeah, they were probably given several tips. Don't stand near open windows, cellphones are bad. . . . . . . .

re: #226 haakondahl

Quit tap-dancing and tell us how you really feel about Scott.

re: #225 lawhawk

It's not the government's ability to prop up Fraudi Mac and Scammie Mae. The government could do it. The problem is whether they should and why.

I certainly think that they should. I can't justify it on fundamentals, but strategically, I think it's the right move. The market has already been slapped with the consequences of its own fecklessness, but it is important that the government remains "too big to fail". I realize the Moral Hazard involved, but feel that it is outweighed to the risks of not bailing out the incestuous quasi-federal siblings.

What are the arugula jokes about obama and is it true that the demo convention has barred fried food and/or will only allow "healthy" food? What is that about? Because i think I could make big money with a hot dog stand outside the convention and recoup my stock market losses. I am sorry if I should know this but I watch very little TV and have tried to avoid reading anything superfluous about the election(95% of the news)

I just came back from a family celebration, my son's engagement, and crashed to earth reading about this monstrous exchange.

It makes me personally want to go over there and smash Kuntar's brains out with a rock. I wouldn't even mind waiting in line to do it.

With regard to concerns about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac:

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Shares of mortgage-buyers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac each jumped 13% at the opening bell on Wednesday, staging comebacks after steep declines posted on Tuesday. Lawmakers are mulling a U.S. plan to prop up the companies, which have faced questions about their capital, and whose stocks have been punished over the past several days. On Tuesday, securities regulators said they are limiting "naked shorting" of the companies' shares.

Some people are snapping up some apparent bargains.

re: #211 3 wood The saying goes..there are no Democrat small business owners...the great catch 22....support the Dems in November so the press will become optimistic again but we will be taxed into bankruptcy or elect a Republican so they can continue the pessimism and we will be forced into bankruptcy through a driven agenda. Every one of the small business owners I know will do our damndest to survive but the bitterness we are experiencing may jade us a bit. I sure wish there were such a thing as a politician that understood small business and would actually make it a mission to help. But, since there is no such animal, I consider my success as a sort of anarchy against the forces that seek to take me out.

re: #234 Alouette

I just came back from a family celebration, my son's engagement, and crashed to earth reading about this monstrous exchange.

It makes me personally want to go over there and smash Kuntar's brains out with a rock. I wouldn't even mind waiting in line to do it.

And stoning is a popular Islamic activity so we would be culturally sensitive while we were doing it.

re: #237 madisonsfriend

And stoning is a popular Islamic activity so we would be culturally sensitive while we were doing it.

I would like to have one of those handy Acme anvils, myself.

re: #229 jorline

{Hoosier} Hope you're well this morning.

hey..got a sunburn from hanging out at the pool yesterday..
/ I'm not complaining mind you..but go ahead and laugh..i could get redder but i'm not sure how.

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (74 degrees going up to 93 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
And where is everyone today?!

re: #226 haakondahl

I'm finer than the difference between Scott McClellan and a mumbling, bumbling, stuttering, stammering God-Damned Liar with sweaty palms and a shit-eating grimace on that parking lot for fat that he calls a face.

You're the finest thing on LGF, if not the entire Internet.

re: #233 madisonsfriend

What are the arugula jokes about obama and is it true that the demo convention has barred fried food and/or will only allow "healthy" food? What is that about? Because i think I could make big money with a hot dog stand outside the convention and recoup my stock market losses. I am sorry if I should know this but I watch very little TV and have tried to avoid reading anything superfluous about the election(95% of the news)

Yes, it's true.

Might even get some good data out of nuking the Moon.

(Both concerning the composition of the lunar material at depths greater than we've previously been able to sample, as well as testing new weapons designs.)

We'd have effectively withdrawn from the Outer Space Treaty and the Partial Test Ban Treaty to do it though...

re: #226 haakondahl

I don't get it.

:P

re: #241 MandyManners
And you are finer than fresh spun cotton candy!
(h/t Mandy Manners!)

re: #235 3 wood

With regard to concerns about Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac:

Some people are snapping up some apparent bargains.

Or taking profits by covering their shorts.

re: #245 realwest

And you are finer than fresh spun cotton candy!
(h/t Mandy Manners!)

Stickiest job I ever held.

Good Morning from the Land of Coz!

How the heck have y'all been?

re: #242 MandyManners

Yes, it's true.

Apparently they hired a "carbon adviser."

re: #246 David Simon

Or taking profits by covering their shorts.

They should be, as the Feds are looking for naked shorting.

/

re: #239 HoosierHoops

hey..got a sunburn from hanging out at the pool yesterday..
/ I'm not complaining mind you..but go ahead and laugh..i could get redder but i'm not sure how.

Not laughing here...keep thinking, the peeling will start soon...lol

/offering aloe vera plant from back garden.

re: #248 coz Hey coz! How are you doing - long time no see!

Word of the Day
Wednesday July 16, 2008

mephitic muh-FIT-ik, adjective:
1. Offensive to the smell; as, mephitic odors.
2. Poisonous; noxious.

re: #253 coz

{COZ}

How are you?

realwest, my good friend.

All is well here, just busy.

Hope today finds you blessed.

RealWest!
what up? How is the weather your way?

re: #243 Dar ul Harb

We'd have effectively withdrawn from the Outer Space Treaty and the Partial Test Ban Treaty to do it though...

Win-win.

re: #227 formercorpsman

Would it be silly of me to think the images of people waiting in line to liquidate their cash from the bank smells like the Obama fainting spells?

Not having the background you do, I can remember a time when we measured poverty via material goods in the population.

Well, there certainly are some problems with the macro economy at the moment, all of which are fairly easy to spot and correct, though not over night. There is no "magic wand" solution to this. But the corrections are prospective and not retrospective.

I think Greenspan went to sleep onthe job his last year or so, and Bernanke was a bit naive when he took over. The discount rate got raised too far too fast and caused severe problems with variable rate debt.

You also had changes in the banking industry that resulted in just about anyone getting a loan of some sort if they wanted it due to PC and anti-discrimination rulings. So folks got "leveraged" way beyond their means in some cases. For example , my first car (a 1967 Dodge Dart) cost me $20 and had no door handle on the passenger side. Nowadays, everyone wants a new car and wants a loan to get it.

You additionally had the price of energy skyrocket for various reasons, including a brain dead Washington DC over the last 25 years or so.

You have most of Europe with elevated interest rates and ours much lower, so you have the dollar devaluing relative to the euro, the pound and other currencies.

Put all that together, you have a bit of a mess, but is is all very fixable, just not over night.

re: #252 realwest

Hey coz! How are you doing - long time no see!

{realwest}

How are YOU? I truly hope the pain is manageable.