Has the wahmbulance been called yet?

Lefties - "We're not for Al-Qaeda, we just happen to be on the other side!"

Now here's someone who could have his head [rest deleted]

It makes me feel bad too. He shouldn't be able to cry because he should be dead.

Frag anyone?

Maybe it'd make them feel better to see him die. he's too young to know anything of value. He shouldn't have been taken prisoner.

Crocodile tears.

I have no pity for evil shedding crocodile tears.

my simpathy cup is empty.

What a BRAVE warrior for allah!

What would Obama do?

re: #11 NoSubmission

What would Obama do?

wwod?

re: #7 Honorary Yooper

Crocodile tears.

GMTA

He should be shot as an unlawful combatant. Or he should be classified as a Prisoner of War.

according to the CBC we should send him home cause hes crying.

Er ok

Funny how little I care.

Please. Cry. More.

What about if these leftists see the soldier's family cry?

Do they FEEL bad, too?

I can't see the video, was anyone doing anything horrible to him to make him cry, like placing panties on his head, or eating his peanut butter sandwich, or is he just a wus?

He's not getting good medical attention? Well, he should have thought of that before he murdered a medic!

Cry for the US soldier he killed, not for this SOB. He's lucky he's being detained by the US, where they actually provide 3 hots and a cot.

His jihadi friends aren't so nice to the people they capture.

There's also a video of him planting landmines....
Omar Khadr

The video shows Khadr toying with detonating cord as other men including Abu Laith al-Libi assemble explosives in the same house as had just been destroyed, identifiable by its walls, rugs and the environment seen out the windows in the video,[20][28] and planting landmines while smiling and joking with the cameraman.[13][33][45] It has been suggested that these were the same landmines later recovered by American forces on a road between Gardez and Khowst.[28]

re: #18 Sir Napsalot

Yes, but they feel guilty about it.

Just out of curiosity, how did his lawyer(s) get their hands on that tape anyway?

I'm so sorry he is crying in that cell.

They should have shot him to begin with.

To hell with that little rodent. Big enough to do the crime, big enough to do the time.

"It makes them feel bad to see him cry."How about instead of feeling bad for this @%%hole, they feel bad for the the young US Soldier he killed and his family and friends. Why/How does these murders get someones sympathy?

Can you guys keep him there please? I sure as hell don't want him back in my country. We already have to put up with the rest of his family.

re: #18 Sir Napsalot

What about if these leftists see the soldier's family cry?

Do they FEEL bad, too?

They blame Bush for that. It's probably Bush's fault this BRAVE warrior for allah is crying too.

Hey...no crying...stop that...there's no crying in jihad.

re: #11 NoSubmission

What would Obama do?

Surrender. Oh wait, the little crying bitch is already in custody, well can he still surrender?

re: #10 Sharmuta

What a BRAVE warrior for allah!

Yeah, he's only sad he got caught.

Bastard.

re: #10 Sharmuta

What a BRAVE warrior for allah!

Perhaps not brave, but certainly effective. The resources it takes to maintain him in captivity, provide his legal counsel, and deal with the P.R. sh*tstorm he has ignited would be more effectively used elsewhere - like in hunting and killing his cohorts, and he no doubt knows that.

Unlike leftists these jihadis actually know how to fight a war.

Too bad they merely captured him. Obviously, we should change the rules of engagement in future combat with enemy combatants/terrorists who ignore the laws of war to "take no prisoners".

re: #23 Dianna

That is what gets me.

All Gitmo guys are innocent 'until proven guilty'.
But our military are indiscrete civilian and baby Killers, that goes without saying.

But, but, if we weren't in Iraq in the first place, the poor man would not have been forced to kill that imperialistic U.S. soldier hegemon. -Lefty

re: #27 Inquisitive

"It makes them feel bad to see him cry."How about instead of feeling bad for this @%%hole, they feel bad for the the young US Soldier he killed and his family and friends. Why/How does these murders get someones sympathy?

Is this an "interrogation" or a fucking self-esteem therapy session? "Take a bite to eat, relax a little, we do care about you."

Gah. I want to slap this little putz, just for my mental health.

re: #32 Honorary Yooper

jihad is all fun and games until the Marines come by and kick your ass.

What a pansy this guy is.

Maybe we should negotiate and release him for a few dead bodies? No that's what defeats do! This terrorist deserves death

Are you kidding me? People feel sorry for this young jihadi douchebag?

His pals torture their enemies with power drills and machetes. Cry me a river, tough guy.

There's no crying in jihad.

re: #10 Sharmuta

What a BRAVE warrior for allah!

Oh Yes, So very very Brave---setting there crying like a big baby ! Oh boo hoo--you don't care about ME----Poor little ME, Me, Me.

Big Jihadis don't cry.

Khadr's mother, Maha Elsamnah, emotional after watching her son's interrogation, expressed a deep sense of loss for her family and uncertainty over what she should do.

Her husband, Ahmed Said Khadr, was an avowed al-Qaeda sympathizer before he was killed in fighting with Pakistani military forces in 2003. Elsamnah refused to say more without speaking to her lawyer.

But retired soldier Sgt. Layne Morris, who was in the firefight in which U.S. medic Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer was killed by a grenade, allegedly by Khadr, said he has no sympathy for the Guantanamo detainee.

"Whoever has sympathy for a young snivelling, whining, crying Omar is misplaced sympathy because this is not a man who deserves any sympathy," he told CBCNews.ca.

"I use all my sympathy for Chris Speer's widow and two children. I have none left for Omar Khadr."

Looks like it runs in the family...now cry me a river, Omar.

Did the crime? Pay the time...bitch.

He's doing exactly what al Qaeda trained him to do; to make bogus claims of torture and mistreatment at the hands of Americans to help split off our
squeamish European "allies". How long before the "World Court" weighs in on this one?

re: #43 Golem Akbar

Big Jihadis don't cry.

Sure they do, it's a great PR tool. I deplore these people but I admit they play stupid liberals like violins

re: #43 Golem Akbar,

But he's just a little jihadi. The littlest jihadi. Give the Left a little time, and he'll be writing children's stories and be cute and fluffy like Tookie.

I saw another portion last night.
Seems he has that Muslim disorder where certain body parts disappear.
Now, most men lose their ''you-know-what.''
But he claims his eyes and feet are missing.
Jeepers!

I bet he's crying because he's worried about his 72 virgins.

re: #40 hurricane_jimmy

The shithead Journos in Canada won't shut the fuck up about this little piece of shit and his terrorist family, the rest of us just want to never hear about him ever again.

I must be down a couple of quarts of sympathy.
I feel nothing but contempt for this murderous, Islamic, punk.
The army medic that he killed left behind a wife & two small children.
That is where my sympathy is.
The irony is that the medic he killed would have tended this punks wounds

OK, he's scared and sorry. Doesn't change the fact that he should be executed. He wants forgiveness, somebody tell him about Jesus.

Don't cry for me, al Qaeda.
The truth is, you've always killed me.
I am an infidel,
who will never be cowed.
I am the righteous.
I am a survivor...

Gosh, maybe they simply should have summarily executed this non-uniformed combatant on the field of battle.

Ironically, nobody would be crying then.

Is he mumbling, "Kill Me"? Okay no problem !

re: #47 SpartanWoman

Sure they do, it's a great PR tool. I deplore these people but I admit they play stupid liberals like violins

Violin virtuosi. [oh yeah -- they are very good at it]

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

Big Jihadis don't cry-yi-yi
(When they don't die)

It's my jihad and I'll cry if I want to
Cry if I want to, cry if I want to
You would cry too if it happened to you

Yep. I checked, Its still there in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.

He misses ice hockey and curling.

He killed an American Army medic. No brains, no honor, no morals, no love for anything except self.

Yep, sounds like your average Lefterrorist.

Here's my response to the weeping jihadi:

I can't believe you people! He just wanted his 72 virgins, is that so wrong? Have some compassion, for Pete's sake. Now he's crying like frightened child, and allah will not only keep his virgins from him, he'll likely get a (how does the koran put it?) terrible chastisement from allah too.

////

Old enough to fight in a war, old enough to be held according to international law. No special treatment. Get on with his trial. Fortunately our Prime Minister appears in no way ready to capitulate on this. This entire family is a cancer on the world and on Canada in particular. I certainly hope every member of his family is under permanent surveillance. They should never know even a moment of peace in this country.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!.!.!.!.!.!

I'll bet that little s.o.b. talked real tough with an AK in his hands.

putz

Why doesn't he man up & quit crying? All that he has to do is ask Allah to deliver him from the Infidel. Should work.

I have no sympathy for this Islamofascist terrorist. He comes from a terrorist family and he should have thought about ending up in jail before going to Jihad in Afghanistan. I am glad that PM Harper gov't is not taking this terrorist in and I am glad this terror kid is facing justice in the US jail. Keep him there please and ship the rest of his family to Gitmo as well

re: #33 CIA Reject

Perhaps not brave, but certainly effective. The resources it takes to maintain him in captivity, provide his legal counsel, and deal with the P.R. sh*tstorm he has ignited would be more effectively used elsewhere - like in hunting and killing his cohorts, and he no doubt knows that.

Unlike leftists these jihadis actually know how to fight a war.

re: #44 jorline

"...U.S. medic Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer was killed by a grenade, allegedly by Khadr..."

And you will notice that the little sh*t attacked and killed a non-combatant medic. A "soft" target the loss of which has a multiplier effect on the effectiveness of his enemy. Favorite trick of the Japanese in a war fought long ago.

hope the other inmates make him wear a burkha.

re: #62 Cygnus

He misses ice hockey and curling.

Give me five minutes with this little douche bag bitch and he'd be missing more than hockey and curling.

re: #72 varmint

hope the other inmates make him wear a burkha.

And backless chaps...

re: #43 Golem Akbar

Big Jihadis don't cry.

Big jihadis don’t cry
Big jihadis don’t cry

Big jihadis don’t cry-yi-yi (they don’t cry)
Big jihadis don’t cry (who said they don’t cry?)
The Marines came by-yi-yi (my oh my)
The jihadi didn't cry (I wonder why)

(Silly boy) told my jihadi he had to be locked up
(Silly boy) hoped that he would call my bluff
(Silly boy) then he said to my surprise
“Big jihadis don’t cry?
Big jihadis don’t cry-yi-yi (they don’t cry)
Big jihadis don’t cry (who said they don’t cry?)

(Maybe) he was cru-u-uel (he was cruel)
Baby I’m a fool (I’m such a fool)

(Silly jihadi) “Shame on you?your jailer said
(Silly jihadi) “Shame on you, you’re cryin?in bed? (Silly jihadi)
“Shame on you, you told me lies? Big jihadis do cry

Big jihadis don’t cry-yi-yi (they don’t cry)
Big jihadis don’t cry (that’s just an alibi)
Big jihadis don’t cry
Big jihadis don’t cry
Big jihadis don’t cry
Big jihadis don’t cry
Big jihadis don’t cry

/With apologies to Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons

re: #34 quickjustice

Too bad they merely captured him. Obviously, we should change the rules of engagement in future combat with enemy combatants/terrorists who ignore the laws of war to "take no prisoners".

That's pretty much the answer to the Boumediene decision.

"Waaaaah! How am I supposed to kill infidels while I'm stuck in here?"

Andrew Sullivan's heart is bleeding

re: #73 VegasRick

Give me five minutes with this little douche bag bitch and he'd be missing more than hockey and curling.

Here's your opportunity to give him Little Green Testicles (see previous thread). [it could work]

Awww! Is the little islamofascist murder gonna cry? Cry fascist cry!

The video and audio quality are a little lacking to get the full effect of this crybaby.

The interrogator is so patient. I would have lost it with this big baby. He acts like a spoiled teenager. He is pathetic.

Why are the interrogators so nice to this scumbag? Why are they treating him like a human being? Why is he still alive?

I wish WriterMom could send Malkin's article to her co-irker anonymously.

re: #75 Honorary YooperI like it!
Greatest hits from the Jihad.

I just want to know why this waste of carbon poster boy for prohpylactics is still alive and why the rest of his douchebag family haven't been deported from Canada. The allies executed teenage members of the "Werewolf" German resistance movement which was formed at the end of the World War II. If I remember correctly some of the ones who were tried and executed were younger than this slimebag. The video of him planting landmines made him a posterboy for would be jihadists.. why not make him a posterboy for death to jihadists? They seem to have no problem doing the same to innocent civilians and captured soldiers.
Funny how nobody mentions the special forces medic he killed and the troops who he wounded. I think he ought to be given 5 minutes behind closed doors with them.Then, he would, no doubt have something to cry about.

re: #84 kuffarharbi

Why are the interrogators so nice to this scumbag? Why are they treating him like a human being? Why is he still alive?

Because we're better than he and his ilk.

re: #82 irishlas

He musta found out he's not getting his 72 virgins... :D

re: #66 Sharmuta

I can't believe you people! He just wanted his 72 virgins, is that so wrong? Have some compassion, for Pete's sake. Now he's crying like frightened child, and allah will not only keep his virgins from him, he'll likely get a (how does the koran put it?) terrible chastisement from allah too.

////

He should have fallen on the grenade and collected his prize.

Here is a pic from Wired News. It's pretty gross. It's Khadr walking about with some severed limbs.

[Link: www.wired.com...]

I don't think his family raised him right.

Elvis Costello: Beyond Belief

History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies the same defeats
Keep your finger on important issues
With crocodile tears and a pocketful of tissues

I'm just a oily slick
In a windup world with a nervous tick
In a very fashionable hovel
I hang around dying to be tortured
You'll never be alone in the bone orchard
This battle with the bottle is nothing so novel

On the crybaby topic: New York Times stock reaching unchartered depths...

/MUST.RESIST.BUY.URGE.

Interrogation tactic perfected by my Dad:

"If you want to cry, I'll give you something to cry about!"

I hope someone is keeping a list of all the lawyers who are providing pro bono representation to the GITMO scum.

He's only sorry that he got caught. Sorry, Omar you took up arms in the name of evil and murdered a US soldier. For that you should have to die.

Sgt. First Class Christopher J. Speer was killed by a grenade, allegedly by Khadr

This whole 'allegedly' thing I think is a bit overdone. What is the rule when it stops being called 'allegedly'?

Well of course he's crying! Look, they've made him sit on the comfy couch, the brutes!

The Left is crying "TORTURE!" over this video, but please note:

1. He's being interviewed by Canadians, not Americans.
2. No one lays a single finger on him.
3. No one even speaks to him harshly.
4. Criminals often cry when they get put in the interview room. If you've ever seen the show First 48, an ongoing documentary about Homicide squads in various cities, in nearly every single instance, they get the cold-blooded murderer into the interview room, and he'll start bawling, "I want to talk to my momma!" This, after he murdered six people or whatever. Crying while in custody proves nothing.

Who would like to make a bet, our own Captain Yee might have been consoling him during his stay?

re: #93 experiencedtraveller

On the crybaby topic: New York Times stock reaching unchartered depths...

/MUST.RESIST.BUY.URGE.

I'm crying because two years ago I talked about shorting the stock (even posted about it here), but didn't do it.

Oh well. . .

And they called it ji-ii-had.
Oh i guess they'll never know
how a young terrorist really feels
and just why i love allah so
and they called it ji-ii-haaa-aaaad
just because we're in our teens
tell them all
please tell them it isn't fair
to take away my only dream
i cry each night
my tears for allah
my tears are all in vain
i hope and i pray
that maybe someday
virgins will be back (you'll be back) in my arms(in my arms)
once again
someone help me
help me
help me please
is the answer up above?
how can i
oh how can i tell them
this is not a ji—ii-haaa-aaahd
someone help me
help me
help me please
is the answer up above?
how can i
oh how can i tell them
this is not a ji-ii-had

/apologies to Donny Osmond

Sorry to post,

Here are more pictures from Dust My Broom
[Link: dustmybroom.com...]

Just scroll down.

re: #62 Cygnus

He misses ice hockey and curling.

Actually, I wouldn't mind meeting the jerkoff on a hockey rink. Might wind up with a 10 minute game misconduct when I through.

re: #98 Andopolis

[dramatic chord]

NOOOOOoooobody expects the Spanish InquisiTIONNNNN!

Realize, as well, this kid got hurt on the same battlefield is he was killing our troops on.

His life was saved by our medical personnel.

I say give him his civilian rights and try him as an adult and put him in General Population in San Quentin.. I'm sure he'd get his 72 virgins... just not in the way he imagined !

re: #105 NomadOfNorad

[dramatic chord]

NOOOOOoooobody expects the Spanish InquisiTIONNNNN!

But even less unexpected is polite Canadians. The HOROR!

We should have left his bones on the battlefield, and saved us having to listen to all the leftist morons who want to feel sorry for anyone who tries to do damage to this country. Hell, as long as leftists have so much say in this country, captives are a liability we can do without.

#92 ratherdashing

Elvis Costello: Beyond Belief

History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies the same defeats
Keep your finger on important issues
With crocodile tears and a pocketful of tissues

I'm just a oily slick
In a windup world with a nervous tick
In a very fashionable hovel
I hang around dying to be tortured
You'll never be alone in the bone orchard
This battle with the bottle is nothing so novel

I loved that song.

re: #99 zombie

Took a few courses in Criminal Justice. One of the first things we learned, they criminal is always very, very sorry that they got caught.

This Guantanamo "interrogation" video is really one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. The combination of high school acting and the CSIS officer recommending a bite to eat "before your hamburger gets cold" rather deflates hopes of glamorous inhumanity on tabloid display.

What exactly is the complaint against the CSIS? No couch in the room? No encouragement to "tell me what it felt like when your mother talked to you like that"?

What's with the auditory obfuscation drowning out the boo-hoos from about 0:25 to 0:40, and at about 2:25? Sounds like someone blowing on a microphone dubbed onto the audio track.

Did YouTube do that?

re: #99 zombie

Crying while in custody proves nothing.

Well, it proves that the cryer is upset.

It certainly doesn't prove "torture" (in any way).

Again, it would have been within the rights of capturing soldiers to have literally executed him on the spot as a non-uniformed combatant. Instead they took him alive, and gave him "three hots and a cot".

As usual, no good deed goes unpunished.

Elvis Costello -- Beyond Belief.

What would we do without YouTube?

re: #88 MandyManners

Because we're better than he and his ilk.

No personal offense meant, but that's another line I've tired of. Better at what? If it is we are better warfighters then he shouldn't be in custody he should be in the ground. This problem will end quicker if we start fighting like we used to. They don't see us as 'better' they see as weak because we're not speaking the same language. Japan didn't surrender because we were nicer to P.O.W.s. The Germans didn't quit until we started torching their countryside.

re: #111 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Took a few courses in Criminal Justice. One of the first things we learned, they criminal is always very, very sorry that they got caught.

You can learn the same lesson from Dostoyevsky.

re: #97 CommonCents

This whole 'allegedly' thing I think is a bit overdone. What is the rule when it stops being called 'allegedly'?

When he either confesses or is convicted in a court of law.

You know if he was ever let out he would just try to kill Americans again. Lets give him back to the Afghan Government. Let him be tried for murder and try living in an Afghan jail for a while.

Honestly this is sickening. The fu*ker should have just been shot.

re: #115 zombie

Awesome, thanks!

re: #116 CommonCents

I know this will not be popular with some, but that is the truth.

We knew the second world war would drag on with major cost to the world over.

Wars are never won with lawyers.

re: #103 AverageCdn

How about a fucking warning?!

re: #118 MandyManners

When he either confesses or is convicted in a court of law.

The individual who stuck the word 'alledgedly' in the story, how do they know he hasn't confessed?

re: #71 CIA Reject

And you will notice that the little sh*t attacked and killed a non-combatant medic. A "soft" target the loss of which has a multiplier effect on the effectiveness of his enemy. Favorite trick of the Japanese in a war fought long ago.

medics do not carry guns

re: #10 Sharmuta

What a BRAVE warrior for allah!

Ditto Shar! What a pussy! ".....kill me..sniff, sniff...kill me....." Wow -

It is an insult to the deceased that he continues to draw breath.

re: #115 zombie

Elvis Costello -- Beyond Belief.

What would we do without YouTube?

Ha! The map illustration on that YouTube video is about levels of creationism belief in Europe! That was totally accidental.

Every thread is an ID thread, at this rate!

re: #84 kuffarharbi

Because our side is too stupid to kill these people on whatever battlefield they have chosen. We are treating dishonorable people by a set of rules they despise and by which they will never abide.

This terrorist should indeed be dead.

I'm telling you, these intrepid sons of the desert are wound tighter than a two dollar watch. Ladies' underwear and guard dogs give them conniptions, they're possessed by weird psychosexual obsessions (non-stop heavenly debauchery? Please.) and they're hopelessly mired in a 6th century cosmology. We can take these people! We should be able to rot them from within. Let Madison Avenue give 'em a taste of what it's been doing to our society. The caliphate should collapse like the house o' cards it is.

Waah! Waah! You don't care about me. You don't care about me.

Well, at least you got that right, you murdering slimeball.

I hate to admit this, but I find a quite warmth knowing his friends and family will be seeing this.

I dislike this little bastard as much as the next person, but the truth is he was a child soldier. And Canada is being negligent in it's duties to bring him back. He's a Canadian citizen because of our weak citizenship requirements, but as such he deserves the same treatment as any other citizen. We just went to bat to bring back a crazy woman in jail in Mexico, and a guy who was convicted over in Europe.

Johnathan Kay (a reporter in the National Post who is Conservative and a big supporter of the war effort) has a good write-up in today's Post. As much as I'd prefer to watch this little scumbag rot, the truth is Kay's arguments are correct: [Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

re: #124 Eowyn2

medics do not carry guns

Exactly my point:

1) Medics are easy to kill

2) The loss of a medic will deteriorate the fighting capability of a fighting force more than the loss of a "grunt".

This little sh*t knew EXACTLY what he was doing.

re: #116 CommonCents

No personal offense meant, but that's another line I've tired of. Better at what? If it is we are better warfighters then he shouldn't be in custody he should be in the ground. This problem will end quicker if we start fighting like we used to. They don't see us as 'better' they see as weak because we're not speaking the same language. Japan didn't surrender because we were nicer to P.O.W.s. The Germans didn't quit until we started torching their countryside.

I'm talking only about how we should behave once he's in custody.

Took that fucking shirt right off, cowardly asshole.

re: #130 rw in san diego

Well, at least you got that right, you murdering slimeball.

I think this POS qualifies for the WAB tag.

re: #123 CommonCents

The individual who stuck the word 'alledgedly' in the story, how do they know he hasn't confessed?

Until the person knows otherwise, it's best to use that word.

re: #131 donbmcd

I hate to admit this, but I find a quite warmth knowing his friends and family will be seeing this.

Not me. They probably just think their crafty little jihadi will win enough sympathy to be released and will live to kill another day. They are pleased he is performing his whine so well.

re: #127 zombie

Oh well. I still like the song. I was a big, big Elvis Costello fan back in my liberal youth. Whenever I see somebody sobbing for effect I think of that line.

re: #131 donbmcd

I hate to admit this, but I find a quite warmth knowing his friends and family will be seeing this.

So do I.

re: #138 SpartanWoman

You suppose he might want some cheese with that whine? :D

Of course the MSM uses headlines like these:

"Teen cries for help in Guantanamo video"

or

'Oh Mummy': teen cries in Guantanamo video

instead of

"Murderer cries in Guantanamo video"

re: #132 Siscoe

I dislike this little bastard as much as the next person, but the truth is he was a child soldier. And Canada is being negligent in it's duties to bring him back. He's a Canadian citizen because of our weak citizenship requirements, but as such he deserves the same treatment as any other citizen. We just went to bat to bring back a crazy woman in jail in Mexico, and a guy who was convicted over in Europe.

Johnathan Kay (a reporter in the National Post who is Conservative and a big supporter of the war effort) has a good write-up in today's Post. As much as I'd prefer to watch this little scumbag rot, the truth is Kay's arguments are correct: [Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

What is the age of culpability?

re: #140 MandyManners

They do not cringe with shame when they see their kid perform for the cameras, they probably swell with pride that he is deceiving the enemy so well and that western leftists are so easily swayed.

Anybody feels sorry for that piece of shit deserves to be held captive by them. Nick Berg or Daniel Pearl ring a bell?

BWAAAAAAA much?

re: #141 NomadOfNorad

You suppose he might want some cheese with that whine? :D

If he wants it the canadians will provide

re: #132 Siscoe
With all due respect, he was seen throwing a grenade at a US Special Forces medic who was on his way to (hopefully) save the lives of Afghan children.
He isn't a child. He is a cold-blooded murderer - he knew exactly what he was doing and did it just as he was trained to do.That the Special Forces Medic was on his way to help Afghan CHILDREN didn't matter to him; his being a "child" (which is something I find more than a little dubious) may very well have not only resulted in a US Medic being killed, but the death of those two Afghan children, who were not "playing" war.
Fuck him.

I hope your wrong, no mother could ever be proud of that. No one would ever call him friend again. He was not acting he was a bully and a coward. Happy to kill an unarmed man or set a mine. Not a solider but a child playing at war. Take him up some place high and drop him. repeatedly if needed.

re: #138 SpartanWoman

Not me. They probably just think their crafty little jihadi will win enough sympathy to be released and will live to kill another day. They are pleased he is performing his whine so well.

re: #143 MandyManners

What is the age of culpability?

Well, he was 15 when he did it. I'm pretty your juridiction, as well as mine, considers 18 to be the threshold to be treated as an adult.

Do I think he should come back to Canada and be free? Not a chance. But he should be dealt with here.

As a sidenote, I will state that I'm not exactly thrilled at the prospect of the Canadian justice system doing anything meaningful, but I still think my government should play by the rules it made.

re: #147 SpartanWoman

If he wants it the canadians will provide

Probably. :D :D :D

re: #145 kansas

No these victims were really killed by ChimpyMcHalliburton you know. They are forgotten while we sympathise with jihadi murderers

re: #124 Eowyn2

9mm.

re: #148 realwest

With all due respect, he was seen throwing a grenade at a US Special Forces medic who was on his way to (hopefully) save the lives of Afghan children.

See, here's te problem - he wasn't seen. The grenade got thrown, it exploded, and someone turned around and the only person he saw was Khadr.

I'm not saying he didn't do it. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. I'm just saying the Canadian gov should bring him back here to face justice.

re: #132 Siscoe

No, your wrong.

re: #134 MandyManners

I'm talking only about how we should behave once he's in custody.

Okay. That I will agree with. But I still stand by the opinion that he shouldn't be in custody unless the ultimate goal is plant a low-jack device in his skull and send him back.

re: #155 formercorpsman

Wow - how do I argue with that. Touche.

I wonder what response this kid would have if he was rotting away in some torture house and being 'interrogated' by people from his own side, if tables were reversed?

re: #149 Donbmcd

The naivete of "our side" will never cease to deliver. This is a woman who applauds murder of "infidels". Does anyone really believe that our notions of right and wrong, shame and pride, honesty and lies apply here?

re: #154 Siscoe

If we give you your terrorists back can we have our deserters back?

re: #158 littleO

I wonder what response this kid would have if he was rotting away in some torture house and being 'interrogated' by people from his own side, if tables were reversed?

Particularly if they didn't realize he was "one of their own"?

re: #133 CIA Reject
Ah, well, medics are not supposed to carry weapons. That is correct.
For how I feel about this matter, please see #148.

re: #150 Siscoe

Do I think he should come back to Canada and be free? Not a chance. But he should be dealt with here.

What is your basis for claiming Canadian jurisdiction in this matter? Curious here.

re: #161 Pullus Iulius

If we give you your terrorists back can we have our deserters back?

I believe that show may be 'already in progress'.

re: #160 buzzsawmonkey

Dinged him back down for you.

re: #91 AverageCdn

Here is a pic from Wired News. It's pretty gross. It's Khadr walking about with some severed limbs.

[Link: www.wired.com...]

I don't think his family raised him right.

Never ask this creep "Could you give me a hand with this?"

re: #160 buzzsawmonkey

Three cheers! Excellent comment.

re: #132 Siscoe

I dislike this little bastard as much as the next person, but the truth is he was a child soldier.

So what? Being under 18 doesn't give you a pass for killing American soldiers.

The Geneva convention (which doesn't really apply here, but is constantly being invoked by the leftists that whine about Guantanamo anyway) explicitly recognizes soldiers above the age of 15 years. So does international human rights law.

So I don't see how he merits special treatment. He wasn't compelled to fight; he volunteered.

re: #163 realwest

I couldn't agree with you more RW!

re: #168 buzzsawmonkey

Thank you.

Oh, the shame.

Don't let it bother you. I've made the same mistake once or twice, too...

re: #154 Siscoe

See, here's te problem - he wasn't seen. The grenade got thrown, it exploded, and someone turned around and the only person he saw was Khadr.

I'm not saying he didn't do it. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. I'm just saying the Canadian gov should bring him back here to face justice.

And what kind of "justice" will he receive in your great country? Send him to bed without dessert?

re: #174 Alouette

And what kind of "justice" will he receive in your great country? Send him to bed without dessert?

You have a problem with saving him from sugar, cholesterol and transfat? You, you murderer!

We need to start leaving these scum where we find them.

I didn't throw the grenade. It was that guy standing next to me. Can I have my Gameboy back now?

It makes them feel bad to see him cry.

Makes me feel good.

re: #171 looking closely

Sorry, that's 15 years or older for the Geneva convention (not "above 15").

Apparently this kid was 15 when he killed a US soldier, as far as I can tell, he merits the same treatment as any other combatant. (Which I repeat for the third time, doesn't exclude summary execution for being a non-uniformed combatant).

He doesn't like being behind bars, boo-f@#$ing-hoo.

As a Canadian citizen, I can see Canada asking to have him released, but their asking doesn't merit automatic capitulation.

re: #178 nikis-knight

Makes me feel good.

I'd rather see him in asystole

Yes, He son was suppose to be barave and die for Allah, not become a snivelling little coward begging for his life. Right and Wrong - No. But no one who know this little pig can be proud of how he acted here. If he had been tough beligerent they could be proud in their own islamic way. There is nothing here to be proud of. He is a broked bully. I kind of like that.

re: #159 SpartanWoman

The naivete of "our side" will never cease to deliver. This is a woman who applauds murder of "infidels". Does anyone really believe that our notions of right and wrong, shame and pride, honesty and lies apply here?

re: #144 SpartanWoman

They do not cringe with shame when they see their kid perform for the cameras, they probably swell with pride that he is deceiving the enemy so well and that western leftists are so easily swayed.

I cringe when The Kid bups in a restaurant, so I cannot fathom this mentality.

re: #157 Siscoe

No Siscoe.

There was an active war being waged, and if I recall, Canada signed on to participate under NATO in the operation.

I don't know how much you have read into the whole issue at large, but he was totally aware of what he was doing, there is no dispute in that.

Whether or not he was the one to throw the grenade, he was complicit. Serving in the role of an enemy, with the enemy. Under their direction, and guidance.

He was apprehended properly, is being contained properly, and even if he is a citizen, falls under the rules of engagement.

re: #148 realwest

That the Special Forces Medic was on his way to help Afghan CHILDREN didn't matter to him; his being a "child" (which is something I find more than a little dubious) may very well have not only resulted in a US Medic being killed, but the death of those two Afghan children, who were not "playing" war.

Send him back to Afghanistan.
To the village where the two children lived.
Let the women have him.

re: #152 SpartanWoman

No these victims were really killed by ChimpyMcHalliburton you know. They are forgotten while we sympathise with jihadi murderers

Not my sympathies.

"Lebanese gunman at center of Israel prisoner swap " - Please tell me where Yahoo is located so I can smack the editors upside their heads.

re: #182 MandyManners

The jihadis know a PR coup when they see one, we should brace ourselves for more weepy terrorists.

re: #132 Siscoe

I dislike this little bastard as much as the next person, but the truth is he was a child soldier. And Canada is being negligent in it's duties to bring him back. He's a Canadian citizen because of our weak citizenship requirements, but as such he deserves the same treatment as any other citizen. We just went to bat to bring back a crazy woman in jail in Mexico, and a guy who was convicted over in Europe.

Johnathan Kay (a reporter in the National Post who is Conservative and a big supporter of the war effort) has a good write-up in today's Post. As much as I'd prefer to watch this little scumbag rot, the truth is Kay's arguments are correct: [Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

THis was from the article you linked to:

We put them in jail. We don't beat them, or move them from cell to cell every three hours, or terrify them with threats of pedophilic rape, or deny them appropriate medical care -- all punishments that Khadr has endured -- a litany of abuse so traumatic that, according to one piteous detail among many, he took to falling asleep at Guantanamo desperately hugging a Mickey Mouse book brought to him as a gift.

Not exactly unbiased and it's the same moonbat meme of "let's get those innocents out of the evil clutches of the Bloodthirsty Bushitler minions" that we have seen over and over again.

re: #181 Donbmcd

He actually has quite a lot to be "proud" of - see #71 for details.

re: #150 Siscoe

Well, he was 15 when he did it. I'm pretty your juridiction, as well as mine, considers 18 to be the threshold to be treated as an adult.

Do I think he should come back to Canada and be free? Not a chance. But he should be dealt with here.

As a sidenote, I will state that I'm not exactly thrilled at the prospect of the Canadian justice system doing anything meaningful, but I still think my government should play by the rules it made.

There are people that young in prisons in America. But, this is not some gang-banger who shot a toddler in a drive-by. This is a terrorist who trained for this, who traveled great distance to where he committed his crime.

re: #186 madisonsfriend

"Lebanese gunman at center of Israel prisoner swap " - Please tell me where Yahoo is located so I can smack the editors upside their heads.

Can't beat their brains out when they have no brains to beat, hon.

re: #187 SpartanWoman

The jihadis know a PR coup when they see one, we should brace ourselves for more weepy terrorists.

Well, we know the MSM loves to show weepy mothers of terrorist murderers but very little of the victim's family's grief

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

Please undo my accidental upding of Siscoe's #132, if you are feeling charitable.

I don't usually down-ding, but in this case I made an exception and went back to rectify your error. Seems like I have a lot of help.

re: #99 zombie

... If you've ever seen the show First 48, an ongoing documentary about Homicide squads in various cities, in nearly every single instance, they get the cold-blooded murderer into the interview room, and he'll start bawling, "I want to talk to my momma!" ...

It's usually Caroline Mason that does that to them.

re: #154 Siscoe

See, here's te problem - he wasn't seen. The grenade got thrown, it exploded, and someone turned around and the only person he saw was Khadr.

I'm not saying he didn't do it. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. I'm just saying the Canadian gov should bring him back here to face justice.

In America, if you rob a bank and your comrade kills someone during that robbery, you are as guilty as the shooter.

“Every Muslim dreams of being a shahid (martyr) for Islam,” he said. “Everybody dreams of this, even a Christian would like to die for their religion.”

Dieing for and murdering for... clearly two distinctly different things.

re: #150 Siscoe

Well, he was 15 when he did it. I'm pretty your juridiction, as well as mine, considers 18 to be the threshold to be treated as an adult.

In most states in the US, children as young as 15 (or even lower) are frequently "tried as adults" in murder cases. So, no, in our jurisdiction, 18 is not the threshold to be treated as an adult in a case like this.

At the way they're idolizing this whimpering heap of medic-killing cowardice, it seems like the Left has finally found a consort for St. Pancake. Another star shines bright in the pantheon of surrender monkeys.

re: #184 Son of the Black Dog

Send him back to Afghanistan.
To the village where the two children lived.
Let the women have him.

How old where the two children, again?

re: #157 Siscoe

Wow - how do I argue with that. Touche.

Your scales are might too shiney to be hurling insults around.

"... my arm, my arm. No, I'm not getting good medical care"

First thought in my head .. come here then, let me rip the friggin thing off ..

re: #187 SpartanWoman

The jihadis know a PR coup when they see one, we should brace ourselves for more weepy terrorists.

I don't get how a crying piece of shit is a PR coup.

Following the Prophet?

Oh, poor baybee!  Poor little guy!   Poor fucking fascist bit of islamic trash!  You ROP POS!

}:(     [Sorry, lost it there for a minute, you ignorant piece of shiite ... ]

re: #154 Siscoe

See, here's te problem - he wasn't seen. The grenade got thrown, it exploded, and someone turned around and the only person he saw was Khadr.

"Got thrown"?
So this kid was "accidentally" standing on a battlefield where grenades and gunshots were going off, minding his own business, when someone (anyone other than him, but standing next to him) threw a grenade that killed a US soldier?

Maybe "someone" didn't see him actually toss that grenade, but that same "someone" (who happens to be a uniformed US soldier) would have been well within his rights to put a bullet in this kids head right there and then.

I'm not saying he didn't do it.

No, you're just making excuses.

I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished.

He is being "punished". Can't you see he wants his mommy?

I'm just saying the Canadian gov should bring him back here to face justice.

How on earth does Canadian criminal law apply here?
Canadian law has absolutely no jurisdiction over what happened in a battlefield in Afghanistan, and were he returned to Canada there would be no case.

re: #182 MandyManners

I cringe when The Kid bups in a restaurant.

I cringe when my kid burps in a restaurant.

re: #176 onyxraven1979
See, now that's where I have a problem. First of all, PLEASE read my #148 to understand how I feel about this murderer.
Secondly, you should know that I served as a combat infantryman in Vietnam, and while I did nothing particularly heroic, I do know of what I speak from personal experience.
If an enemy raises his hands, has no visible weapons on him or near enough for him to grab, then "leaving him dead on the battlefield" would mean that an American soldier would have to kill an unarmed man. Murder that unarmed man. I do NOT want our troop's only option to be to cold-bloodedly murder someone who is clearly surrendering.
Killing someone in the heat of combat turns out - most often later on - to be stressful enough; asking our soldiers to be judge, jury and executioner of unarmed men who are surrendering is asking too much of our troops.
Not to mention the unpleasant fact that if the word goes around that our troops will KILL any enemy soldier they see, whether or not they are trying to surrender, will inevitably increase the number of enemy troops who will keep trying to kill our troops rather than be killed as they try to surrender.
Our troops are now and have always been warriors,
not murderers.

re: #187 SpartanWoman

The jihadis know a PR coup when they see one, we should brace ourselves for more weepy terrorists.

Stick our fingers in our ears and sing, "lalalalalalalalaaaaaaa"? Works for me.

re: #150 Siscoe

Well, he was 15 when he did it. I'm pretty your juridiction, as well as mine, considers 18 to be the threshold to be treated as an adult.

Do I think he should come back to Canada and be free? Not a chance. But he should be dealt with here.

As a sidenote, I will state that I'm not exactly thrilled at the prospect of the Canadian justice system doing anything meaningful, but I still think my government should play by the rules it made.

Was he kidnapped and pressed into service?
Or
Did he participate willingly?

re: #197 zombie

In most states in the US, children as young as 15 (or even lower) are frequently "tried as adults" in murder cases. So, no, in our jurisdiction, 18 is not the threshold to be treated as an adult in a case like this.

Again, the Geneva convention explicitly recognizes child soldiers aged 15.

His youth doesn't get him off here.

re: #132 Siscoe

The legalities can be argued all over the place.
The fact is , he was a non-uniformed foreign enemy combatant.
He was not fighting for his couintry.
As I understand the Geneva Convention, it is perfectly permissible to execute him.
His Canadian citizenship, not withstanding, he killed an American soldier, as such he is subject to our justce

re: #201 turn

"... my arm, my arm. No, I'm not getting good medical care"

First thought in my head .. come here then, let me rip the friggin thing off ..

And, beat him with it.

re: #99 zombie

Real bad guys just say, " I want my lawyer". Then then just STFU. I know been in the interview room more than times then I can count.

re: #210 looking closely

Again, the Geneva convention explicitly recognizes child soldiers aged 15.

His youth doesn't get him off here.

Unfortunately here in the DC area(and I suppose lots of other places) kids 15 and younger commit major crimes all the time. Not necessarily murder although that happens.

A little history on the Kadr family.

Papa Khadr was a senior member of al-Qaeda who took his family to Afghanistan where they hung out with Osama Bin Laden. During the 1990’s, he was arrested for his part in a terrorist attack in Afghanistan, but he was kindly sprung from jail through the intervention of Jean Chretien.

Mommy and Daddy al-Qaeda raised their children to be good little martyrs. The eldest daughter’s wedding was attended by Bin Laden – and she’s reportedly under investigation by the RCMP. Two of the sons – Abdul and Omar – ended in Guantanamo Bay after being captured while fighting on behalf of the terrorists. Abdul flipped and managed to get out of Gitmo by working for the CIA. Omar, who killed an American in combat, is about to be tried for murder. Another son is in jail in Canada, awaiting extradition to the United States.

Eventually, Daddy Khadr was killed while fighting alongside al-Qaeda forces. In the same battle Abdulkareem, the youngest son, was seriously wounded. It was at this point – with her son in need of extensive (and expensive!) medical care that Mommy Khadr discovered her secret affection for Tim Horton’s and the National Hockey League and began to first demand her and her children’s “rights” as “Canadians.”

So, to summarize: the elder Khadr came to Canada in the mid-1970’s and then returned to the Islamic world in the early 1980’s – thereafter returning to Canada only sporadically (most notably for a year of free health treatment when he was wounded by a land mine). Since then he – and his progeny – have devoted themselves to waging war against the West. But, somehow, we are supposed to simply accept that these people – citizens of convenience who have waged war against our nation and civilization – are legitimate “Canadians” and to grin and bear it while they, being natural parasites with no respect for our nation, suck tax dollars out of our system to pay for the surely expensive medical treatment for someone wounded while standing alongside our enemies.

Not only this – after all, this outrage has been allowed to pass practically unnoticed – but now we are supposed to have sympathy for (as the media and the left obviously does) an al-Qaeda solider who, while fighting as an unlawful combatant, treacherously wounded one Allied solider and killed another. Indeed, we are not only supposed to have sympathy – we are actually supposed to devote time and resources (read: my and your money) into freeing him from a fate which is far less than what he has earned. (Once again, I would emphasize the stupidity of, in dealing with terrorists, not simply following the traditional procedure established for dealing with pirates, bandits, spies, and other unlawful combatants captured in combat).

Just outta curiosity talking about the Geneva Convention which in itself is a joke.... which signatory of the Conventionwas he fighting for?

re: #132 Siscoe

I dislike this little bastard as much as the next person, but the truth is he was a child soldier.

This is exactly wrong. Unlawful combatants are NOT soldiers.

Geneva POW convention

Treating unlawful combatants as soldiers is an affront to all lawful soldiers.

Treating unlawful combatants as soldiers, or worse, as scofflaws is national suicide.

re: #202 kansas

I don't get how a crying piece of shit is a PR coup.

Then you don't know liberal opinion makers.

Are we supposed to feel greater sympathy for Omar Khadr because he was "just a child" when he was captured in a battle with US troops?

Omar & his evil family cheered the terrorist attacks of 9-11.

Here is a list of the child victims of the 9-11 terrorist murders, all younger than Omar:

Christine Lee Hanson 2
David Reed Gamboa Brandhorst 3
Dana Falkenberg 3
Juliana Valentine McCourt 4
Zoe Falkenberg 8
Bernard Curtis Brown II 11
Asia S. Cottom 11
Rodney Dickens 11

I know where my sympathies lie.

re: #205 looking closely

"Got thrown"?

The passive voice tends to take away responsibility.

re: #95 Son of the Black Dog

I hope someone is keeping a list of all the lawyers who are providing pro bono representation to the GITMO scum.

* * *
Pro Bono? Worse than that, your taxdollars provided Khadr's US military lawyer, Navy Lt. Cmdr., William Kuebler, who says the video shows "a frightened boy".

(per the AP writer Charmaine Noronha)

Not so frightened he that this "boy" couldn't travel to Afghanistan to engage in his "personal struggle" against the USA.

re: #195 MandyManners
Yep, it's called felony-murder in most jurisdictions.

re: #206 Son of the Black Dog

I cringe when my kid burps in a restaurant.

Tthhpppppppttttttttttttttttttt.

re: #212 MandyManners

And, beat him with it.

GMTA

Left & right keep getting closer & closer to partnering with jihadi's.

re: #219 Kenneth

A million updings for that.

re: #207 realwest

See, now that's where I have a problem. First of all, PLEASE read my #148 to understand how I feel about this murderer.
Secondly, you should know that I served as a combat infantryman in Vietnam, and while I did nothing particularly heroic, I do know of what I speak from personal experience.
If an enemy raises his hands, has no visible weapons on him or near enough for him to grab, then "leaving him dead on the battlefield" would mean that an American soldier would have to kill an unarmed man. Murder that unarmed man. I do NOT want our troop's only option to be to cold-bloodedly murder someone who is clearly surrendering.
Killing someone in the heat of combat turns out - most often later on - to be stressful enough; asking our soldiers to be judge, jury and executioner of unarmed men who are surrendering is asking too much of our troops.
Not to mention the unpleasant fact that if the word goes around that our troops will KILL any enemy soldier they see, whether or not they are trying to surrender, will inevitably increase the number of enemy troops who will keep trying to kill our troops rather than be killed as they try to surrender.
Our troops are now and have always been warriors,
not murderers.

Don't you think things have changed since combatants wore uniforms and didn't hide in churches and behind women and children?

re: #207 realwest

100% correct. Accidental shootings on the battlefield occur, but deliberately shooting an unarmed man is wrong and against the UCMJ article 118 Murder. Most likely not the death penalty stuff as it would not be pre meditated. However, if you see a kid with a grenade in his hand on a battlefield, that is a different matter.

“That wasn’t a panicky teen-ager we encountered that day,” Sergeant First Class Layne Morris of South Jordan, Utah, who lost his right eye in the ambush, told the Boston Globe last month. “That was a trained al-Qaida who wanted to make his last act on earth the killing of an American.”

“We have evidence that one of Canada’s children has been tortured by the United States, Ahmad said.

He's just a poor misunderstood teenager. You know how they get a little crazy in their teens. Some kids go cow tipping... some jihad.

re: #220 MandyManners

The passive voice tends to take away responsibility.

Grenades just throw themselves, just like rockets in Gaza all launch on their own, guns discharge spontaneously, and SUV's have built-in road rage.

First thing I noticed when he cried "My arm, my arm" was that he was able to easily lift it over his head to take his shirt off.

re: #216 baconeatingkaffir

Just outta curiosity talking about the Geneva Convention which in itself is a joke.... which signatory of the Conventionwas he fighting for?

None, he would be considered a mercenary under Geneva, and therefore, the country that catches him can do what it likes with him.

OT

Light, sweet crude for August delivery is down $6.44 at $132.30 a barrel in morning trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Dow up 162

Amasing what happens to the barrel price when GWB called an end to the No Drill bullshit...OPEC and the speculators are stumped after an $11 drop over the last two days....funny how supplies are all of a sudden high.

re: #228 johnnyreb

100% correct. Accidental shootings on the battlefield occur, but deliberately shooting an unarmed man is wrong and against the UCMJ article 118 Murder. Most likely not the death penalty stuff as it would not be pre meditated. However, if you see a kid with a grenade in his hand on a battlefield, that is a different matter.

But the minute he tosses it, you can't shoot?

He can't even find his own eyes or feet.  Is he stoned or something?  I love that the interrogater tells him that his strategy of crying doesn't work.  I have no sympathy for him at all ...

Someone needs to be put in a cell with the gay motorcycle gang arrested last week.

He keeps asking to be killed.  Where's the video showing the line forming full of willing volunteers to help him out?

}:P     [I've said it before, they're all cowards and pussies.]

re: #222 realwest

Yep, it's called felony-murder in most jurisdictions.

Couldn't there be a conspiracy charge as well?

re: #215 Sounder

Nice!

re: #207 realwest

Very well stated.

Pardon me for interrupting. but:

re: #132 Siscoe

I dislike this little bastard as much as the next person, but the truth is he was a child soldier. blockquote>

yet

re: #150 Siscoe

Well, he was 15 when he did it. I'm pretty your juridiction, as well as mine, considers 18 to be the threshold to be treated as an adult.

So which is it: child soldier or adult?

re: #225 akak huh?

re: #225 akak

Left & right keep getting closer & closer to partnering with jihadi's.

As BabbaZee would say, they meet at Jew-Hate Junction.

He made his choice and now must live with the results. This is the part that the left does not understand. They think that no matter what you do if you then cry or write a story or look cute then you should get a get out of jail card. This is because they take no responsibility for their actions. It is always someone else who is at fault. Bush did it, the right wing conspir...etc. In some way the people in this country have lost the will to survive. Knowing full well that this creep would kill again many will call for his release. If so release him in California or New York so when he kills he will at least do some good. Because the left won't care if he kills in Texas.

Yeah, I'm impressed.

I just don't give a damn.

re: #240 realwest

What is confusing?

re: #234 kansas

But the minute he tosses it, you can't shoot?

OK thats a bit of a reach there isn't it?

re: #207 realwest

Not to mention the unpleasant fact that if the word goes around that our troops will KILL any enemy soldier they see, whether or not they are trying to surrender, will inevitably increase the number of enemy troops

Actually not, the reverse is inevitable. All this "we will just enrage the enemy and make them hate us even more" is bullshit, especially when it comes to Moslems.

OK, since this twit is Canadian, let's let him be judged by Canadian standards - five minutes alone with the NHL's penalty-minutes leaders

re: #234 kansas

But the minute he tosses it, you can't shoot?

Sometimes the fog of war takes over, and shit happens.

re: #246 johnnyreb

OK thats a bit of a reach there isn't it?

If were gonna lawyer the shit out of this, then no, it's not a reach at all.

re: #54 itellu3times

OK, he's scared and sorry. Doesn't change the fact that he should be executed.

Nah, never happen thanks to 'evolving' legal standards; too small to fry. We just took him off Canada's hands and, at US taxpayer expense, will support him for the rest of his (hopefully short) natural life. You owe us one, Canada.

re: #215 Sounder

I don't trust the Canadians to dispense justice to this snivelling bastard.

Apologies. Pressed "Post" instead of "Preview"

re: #171 looking closely

So what? Being under 18 doesn't give you a pass for killing American soldiers.

The Geneva convention (which doesn't really apply here, but is constantly being invoked by the leftists that whine about Guantanamo anyway) explicitly recognizes soldiers above the age of 15 years. So does international human rights law.

Now press Post.

I just wikied this about the "werewolf" resistance movement and allied reprisals.. some were even done by the CANADIANS!
A kid as young as 15 or whatever age this slimebag was can kill just as well as an adult. Child soldier my ass .. this kid knew what he was doing even before he went to Afghanistan. Now.. which signatory military of the Geneva Convention was he fighting for and which uniform was he wearing?

re: #250 kansas

If were gonna lawyer the shit out of this, then no, it's not a reach at all.

OK then by the UCMJ you saw this person toss a grenade at your forces, that makes him a combatant and therefore a legitimate target. Next question?

re: #252 MandyManners

I don't trust the Canadians to dispense justice to this snivelling bastard.

You are very likely correct on that.

So, is there any evidence other than his word, that he was mis-treated, dare i say, "tortured" at Gitmo?

re: #103 AverageCdn

Good catch.

re: #254 baconeatingkaffir

Somehow the linke didnt work German Werewolf Resistance and Reprisals

How about I get 5 minutes with this crybaby?
I can assure you I would give him something to cry about!
I'll compare his tears to the tears of the entire family of that soldier.
I would spit in that losers face!

re: #220 MandyManners

The passive voice tends to take away responsibility.

'Got thrown", is like saying mistakes were made.

re: #255 johnnyreb

OK then by the UCMJ you saw this person toss a grenade at your forces, that makes him a combatant and therefore a legitimate target. Next question?

Are you sure you saw him toss the grenade? How far away were you standing? Were there others near him? Could it have been one of them and not him. Do you wear glasses? Did you have dirt in your eyes? Did you take cover? How can you be sure it was him? Hell, and I'm not even a lawyer and I can make up asshole lawyer questions.

Drug-dealing gangs frequently recruit and use very young kids to do their dirty work, knowing that, even if caught, the kids will do a lot less time than an adult would if caught doing the same crime. Need someone to pick up the drugs? Send a 13-year-old. Need someone to act as a lookout? An eight-year-old on a bike will do. Need someone to kill an rival drug dealer in a turf war? Hand the gun to the 15-year-old, let him do the deed.

This happens all the time in every big city in America. The Bad Guys prey on our societal lenience toward children who commit crimes. They use our humanity against us.

And now the same thing is happening on an international scale, in a civilizational war.

Do you think these 15-year-olds dreamt up this jihad by themselves? Did they hook up with the arms smugglers? Did they study the Koran? No. It is adults who are behind all the terrorism. And in many cases, such as this one, they have started to do what the drug dealers do: They recruit underage kids to do their dirty work. (Hamas has done this as well in Gaza.) Layer upon layer of evil.

If we allow them to use our humane laws and our sense of justice against us, then the jihadis can bring down Western civilization by simply creating an entire army of child soldiers. The liberals will cry and say, "Don't hurt the poor babies!", while the kids march forward incessantly, killing as they go. And, thanks to our humanity, we will feel morally stained if we fight back against these brainwashed kids.

It is a terrible tragedy, admittedly, but the terrorists give us no choice: cease to exist as a civilization, or violate our conscience by doing combat against children.

Which do you choose?

re: #213 Viking6

Real bad guys just say, " I want my lawyer". Then then just STFU. I know been in the interview room more than times then I can count.

I forgot to add that now, thanks to SCOTUS, these scumbags can get lawyers, so the only reason I see for his crying is that he is a sniveling coward who couldn't even do the right thing for his beliefs. It was unfortunate that there wasn't a 500 lb JDAM available during the firefight that ended in this puke's surrender.

If they do lawyer the hell out of it I think the family of the medic he killed and the guys who he wounded should all lawsuit his family until they have nothing left. Two can play that game.

re: #207 realwest
In general taking prisoners is good policy (if practicable).

Note that when I said that US soldiers legally could have killed this kid on the battlefield, I don't mean they *should* have done that. I'm only saying this to point out how benign his actual treatment is, compared to the what he is legally entitled to by being a non-uniformed combatant (which is just about zip).

Whether or not they "should" have bothered to take him prisoner depends on the exact circumstances, which I am not privy to. . .but I'd assume that the soldiers in question did the right thing by not killing him.

Despite the Geneva convention, the US *has* extended significant protection to non-uniformed combatants, including this kid. Whether or not we should do that is a whole other argument.

So, to summarize: the elder Khadr came to Canada in the mid-1970’s and then returned to the Islamic world in the early 1980’s – thereafter returning to Canada only sporadically (most notably for a year of free health treatment when he was wounded by a land mine). Since then he – and his progeny – have devoted themselves to waging war against the West. But, somehow, we are supposed to simply accept that these people – citizens of convenience who have waged war against our nation and civilization – are legitimate “Canadians” and to grin and bear it while they, being natural parasites with no respect for our nation, suck tax dollars out of our system to pay for the surely expensive medical treatment for someone wounded while standing alongside our enemies.

Bingo. They fight the West, and when they get injured they return here to game our medical systems and get patched up so they can go back out and keep trying to overthrow us. Same thing happens in Britain, although - even better - the doctors themselves are often terrorists too.

re: #221 alegrias

Worse than that, your taxdollars provided Khadr's US military lawyer, Navy Lt. Cmdr., William Kuebler, who says the video shows "a frightened boy".

However, a US military lawyer is performing a task to which they have been ordered. The fault for their participation is way above their pay grade (like one of our three branches of government, the one I don't remember voting for. OTOH, the civilian lawyers, apparently many from top firms, are lining up to represent these murdering SOB's.

re: #227 kansas Again, with all due respect, most of the enemy forces we fought in Vietnam didn't wear uniforms (although the North Vietnemese Army troops usually did; the Viet Cong did not) and to say they didn't hide behind women and children in Vietnam is just ignorant.
If a US infantry patrol walked past what Army Intelligence referred to as a "friendly village" and recieved machine gun fire from that village, and US soliders were killed or wounded by that machine gun fire, we were OBLIGATED under OUR ROE's to call higher authority on the radio to get permission to fire BACK at them.
In Vietnam, more often than not, the "civilian" was the enemy. And there was no such thing as a "front line". The war was everywhere.
And 99% of us didn't turn into the kinds of murders led by a murdering officer at My Lai where American troops DID force "civilian" old men, women and children into a ditch and machine gun them all to death.
We were soldiers, not murderer's, no matter what John Effin' Kerry testified to in front of the US Senate.

Lethality knows no age.

I kid with a grenade will kill you just as dead as an adult.

There are numerous cases in LE of officers shooting a kid with a gun, even when a gun turns out after the fact to be a toy the shooting is invariably ruled justified.

On the battlefield in contact with the enemy a person with a grenade in hand is a COMBATANT!

The "Child Soldier" applies not in active combat when they are shooting at you. It applies after hostilities, and the child is shown to have been kidnapped and forced to act upon threat of death.

"Child Soldier" does not apply in this case.