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Obama the Cypher

Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:52:35 am PDT

Jim Geraghty: “Does it bother anyone that a guy with political ambitions for his entire adult life has not left a paper trail?

From the Chicago Sun-Times article on grants distributed by then-state-legislator Barack Obama.

(Records from 1997 to 2000 weren’t available.)
There’s a shock.

His state legislative office records may have been thrown out, he told us.

He’s never released a specific list of law clients, instead giving a list of all of his firm’s clients, numbering several hundred each year. His campaign will only confirm representation when the media comes to them with a specific case.

He won’t release his application to the state bar. He’s never released any legal or billing records to verify that he only did a few hours of work for a nonprofit tied to Tony Rezko.

He’s never released any medical records, just a one-page letter from his doctor.

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1 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:04am

they don't need to burn the books....they just remove them

2 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:41am

[Link: pentdego.com...]

3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:46am

HERESY! One simplys does not question the Lightworker!

4 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:54am

these are not the documents you are looking for; move along

5 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:55am

That's right, and empty suit.

6 cliffster  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:55:19am

Careful what you question, you might go the way of his records

7 chuba  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:55:29am

Let the buyer beware.... (or in this case, the voter)

8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:56:00am

I dont see how this line of questioning helps WAB's kids?

9 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:56:25am

How dare you question the Obamessiah?

Racists!

10 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:56:57am

NRO from 6/08.

[Link: campaignspot.nationalreview.com...]

11 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:57:03am

He's learned from Hillary not to ever keep records. Might get in the way of political ambition or cause investigators to take notice.

Of course, the complete and utter lack of records suggests something untoward as well.

Tabula rasa.

12 akak  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:57:06am

nah more worried about his connections to al-Qaeda & Qaddafi thru Raila Odinga

13 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:57:12am

leave the undocumented worker alone

14 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:57:36am

You cannot question that which does not exist. /obamarama

15 calvin coolidge  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:58:23am

Those lessons from Sandy Berger paid off!

16 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:58:25am

Obama id nothing more than a turd in the toilet of politics...will someone please flush?

17 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:58:43am

Bloggernews.net last November.

[Link: www.bloggernews.net...]

18 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:58:50am

re: #14 lawhawk

You cannot question that which does not exist. /obamarama

Like his experience ..

19 zombie  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:58:56am
cypher [varianty of cipher] -- A person of no significant; a non-entity.

Middle English cifre, from Old French, from Medieval Latin cifra, from Arabic ṣifr, from ṣafira, to be empty (translation of Sanskrit śūnyam, cipher, dot); see ṣpr1 in Semitic roots.]

So, Obama does have Arabic roots after all!

20 kulthur  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:59:11am

Manchurian Candidate.

21 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:59:11am

re: #16 jorline

Obama is nothing more than a turd in the toilet of politics...will someone please flush?

fixed

22 zombie  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:59:16am

varianty = variant

23 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:59:31am
24 cliffster  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:00:23am

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

Nobody keeps records any more. Or even CDs. We have been taken over by the iPod People.

Boooo

25 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:00:28am

re: #17 MandyManners

Bloggernews.net last November.

[Link: www.bloggernews.net...]

“I was in the state Senate for eight years,” Obama said. “I had one staff person, that was what was allocated. I don’t have archivists in the state Senate. I don’t have the Barack Obama state Senate library available to me, so we had a bunch of file cabinets. I do not have a whole bunch of records from those years. Now, if there are particular documents that you are interested in, then you should let us know.” … “As I said, I didn’t have the resources to ensure that all this stuff was archived in some way . . . it could have been thrown out.”

26 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:00:45am

Obama reminds me of a Dreamcycle...I can't wait for him to melt!

27 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:00:59am

I call B.S on the Obama. A lawyer never throws out any, repeat, any records. They do just not do that. They keep every single note, email, scrap of napkin etc. that they ever do. I know about 3 dozen lawyers and they are all the same.

They do this so something they did years ago won't come back and bite them on the ass.

28 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:01:45am

Shades of "The Man Who Never Was".

29 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:01:52am

Meet the Press 11/11/07

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

30 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:00am

This is the Harvard Law Review Editor that never wrote a piece, or comment for the Journal.

31 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:27am

re: #28 Son of the Black Dog

Shades of "The Man Who Never Was".


At least he helped us defeat our enemies.

32 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:54am
33 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:55am

re: #27 JohnnyReb

I call B.S on the Obama. A lawyer never throws out any, repeat, any records. They do just not do that. They keep every single note, email, scrap of napkin etc. that they ever do. I know about 3 dozen lawyers and they are all the same.

They do this so something they did years ago won't come back and bite them on the ass.

This is true of all the attorneys I've worked with.

34 BGOH  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:59am

Perhaps these documents were all flushed down the Obama campaign Memory Hole?

And I just saw Sandy Burglar's name dropped. Has it occurred to anyone that the famed Memory Hole may just be Sandy's sock? Someone may want to tackle him and check that out.

35 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:03:04am

Jim Geraghty: “Does it bother anyone that a guy with political ambitions for his entire adult life has not left a paper trail?”

a lot of toilet paper

36 aunursa  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:04:00am

Reminds me of the John Grisham book, The Runaway Jury.

37 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:04:44am

re: #25 MandyManners

A bunch of stuff. No value at all.

38 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:05:17am

SEN. OBAMA: Well, let’s be clear. In the state senate, every single piece of information, every document related to state government was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is available and has been gone through with a fine-toothed comb by news outlets in Illinois. The, the stuff that I did not keep has to do with, for example, my schedule. I didn’t have a schedule. I was a state senator. I wasn’t intending to have the Barack Obama State Senate Library. I didn’t have 50 or 500 people to, to help me archive these issues. So...

MR. RUSSERT: But your meetings with lobbyists and so forth, there’s no record of that?

SEN. OBAMA: I did not have a scheduler, but, as I said, every document related to my interactions with government is available right now. And, as I said, news outlets have already looked at them.

MR. RUSSERT: Is your schedule available anywhere? Are—the records exist?

SEN. OBAMA: I—Tim, I kept my own schedule. I didn’t have a scheduler.

MR. RUSSERT: Senator Durbin, your colleague, publishes his schedule each day. Would you do that?

SEN. OBAMA: Well, you know, these days I have a public presidential schedule that I think everybody has access to.

39 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:06:38am

re: #29 MandyManners

Meet the Press 11/11/07

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Russert let him off easy I think. Why hasn't the fact that he kept no records been questioned more by the MSM? oh wait, nevermind ...

40 noshariaincanada  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:06:58am

Obama does not owe any explanations.

He just *knows*

41 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:07:07am

Sounds moore and moore like someone(s) been planning the messiah's run for potus for a very long time and didn't want to be soros 'cause somehting bad stained the record...

42 noshariaincanada  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:07:25am

re: #16 jorline

Obama id nothing more than a turd in the toilet of politics...will someone please flush?

*flush*

43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:07:43am

re: #38 MandyManners

SEN. OBAMA: Well, let’s be clear. In the state senate, every single piece of information, every document related to state government was kept by the state of Illinois and has been disclosed and is available and has been gone through with a fine-toothed comb by news outlets in Illinois. The, the stuff that I did not keep has to do with, for example, my schedule. I didn’t have a schedule. I was a state senator. I wasn’t intending to have the Barack Obama State Senate Library. I didn’t have 50 or 500 people to, to help me archive these issues. So...

MR. RUSSERT: But your meetings with lobbyists and so forth, there’s no record of that?

SEN. OBAMA: I did not have a scheduler, but, as I said, every document related to my interactions with government is available right now. And, as I said, news outlets have already looked at them.

MR. RUSSERT: Is your schedule available anywhere? Are—the records exist?

SEN. OBAMA: I—Tim, I kept my own schedule. I didn’t have a scheduler.

MR. RUSSERT: Senator Durbin, your colleague, publishes his schedule each day. Would you do that?

SEN. OBAMA: Well, you know, these days I have a public presidential schedule that I think everybody has access to.

You can feel the Uhs and Ums that must have been scattered thoughout.

44 jcm  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:08:00am

How difficult is it for the Chicago machine to disappear a few file boxes?

45 Pyroskank  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:08:18am

So he really IS a robot! Soros, you evil genius, you!

46 mean Gene  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:08:44am

I read about this a few days ago.
And no, nothing ever seems to bother his supporters.....or should we more accurately call them his fans?....his disciples?

47 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:08:53am

re: #44 jcm

How difficult is it for the Chicago machine to disappear a few file boxes?

Spitballs.

48 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:09:50am

re: #25 MandyManners

I'm no authority, but there's a long list of items you have to keep, even if you're a home business. That's got to be some sort of violation.

49 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:11:01am

Gotta' go get some new tires. bbl

50 xtraBilly  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:11:29am

No papers - no Presidential Library

51 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:12:02am

re: #38 MandyManners

No one meets with lobbyists without keeping some kind of record!

52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:12:16am

Lets here it for Canada;

Canada brushes off pressure over Guantanamo inmate

"Our position has not changed and it's not going to. We're not going to blow in the wind on something as fundamental as this," Harper's chief spokesman Kory Teneycke told Reuters.

Extracts from the secret video show Khadr -- then 16 -- being grilled by officials from the Canadian Security Intelligence Service spy agency.

The film was released by Khadr's lawyers, who are pushing Ottawa to intervene with Washington on his behalf.

"Making a change at the 11th hour because his legal team is pursuing an aggressive media strategy is not in the interests of due process ... We're about doing what the right thing is," said Teneycke.

53 Orbit Rain  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:12:19am

*BINGO*

The guy has basically been walking around the last 12 years shaking hands and engaging in small-talk and doing as little as possible. He doesn't have a record because he hasn't, you know, actually done anything.

54 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:12:29am
55 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:12:39am

re: #46 mean Gene

I read about this a few days ago.

And no, nothing ever seems to bother his supporters.....or should we more accurately call them his fans?....his disciples?


I think "minions" sounds about right.

56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:13:04am

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Lets hear it for Canada rather

57 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:13:06am

re: #51 Dianna

No one meets with lobbyists without keeping some kind of record, unless...

58 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:13:07am

Personally, I'm not concerned about the lack of a paper trail following Obama. I'm more concerned about how far back the country will be set if he makes it into the Oval Office, just by his speeches and his general obsfucated presence.

I don't need to see any papers to know that I don't trust the guy. Never have, never will.

59 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:13:22am

re: #50 xtraBilly

Thank heavens for small mercies?

60 BakaRanger  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:13:33am

Badges, I don't need to show you no stinkin' badges...

61 stevieray  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:13:55am

re: #30 WrathofG-d

This is the Harvard Law Review Editor that never wrote a piece, or comment for the Journal.

He went to Harvard for his law degree after working as a community activist. The lack of a written record of his thoughts while in Harvard is likely a planned occurrence. He must have caught someone's eye way back in his activist days. The only question I have is this: Is the lack of a past an Obama plan, or was he being groomed and advised as far back as his pre law school days... and if so, who was/is pulling the strings.

62 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:14:05am

re: #54 Noam Sayin'

Mandy's new tires.

It's like if the Michelin Man & spider-hole Saddam had a love child.

63 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:14:15am

Lightworkers don't leave paper trails, they leave only rainbows.

/...get with the program you hope-haters!

64 mbruce  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:14:49am

re: #34 BGOH

Perhaps these documents were all flushed down the Obama campaign Memory Hole?

And I just saw Sandy Burglar's name dropped. Has it occurred to anyone that the famed Memory Hole may just be Sandy's sock? Someone may want to tackle him and check that out.

Perhaps they are down Sandy's pants, giving him a tingling in his legs like....wait a second, has anyone thought of checking Matthews' pants for the documents?

65 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:15:00am

re: #61 stevieray

He went to Harvard for his law degree after working as a community activist. The lack of a written record of his thoughts while in Harvard is likely a planned occurrence. He must have caught someone's eye way back in his activist days. The only question I have is this: Is the lack of a past an Obama plan, or was he being groomed and advised as far back as his pre law school days... and if so, who was/is pulling the strings.

It all went too quickly. The grooming is far from complete.

66 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:15:13am

re: #57 debutaunt

Shhhh!

I actually backspaced and removed my "unless"! I don't think it would get Charles in trouble, but it didn't seem like a very good idea, even so.

Though it does spring forcefully to mind, doesn't it?

67 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:15:18am

Paper trails are bad for the enviroment.

68 HippieforLife  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:15:22am

I remember thinking when he gave the keynote speech at the Dem convention "who is this guy?".

And now, 4 years later, I am still wondering.

It is becoming more difficult to check his record when it appears that he does not have one!

69 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:15:33am
70 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:15:57am

Look, Obama kept meticulous records of all this stuff, but unfortunately those records were destroyed due to an unusual skiing accident right in his own office. So just lay off the guy, willya?

71 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:15:57am

re: #64 mbruce

Perhaps they are down
Sandy's pants, giving him a tingling in his legs like....wait a second,
has anyone thought of checking Matthews' pants for the documents?

Not with someone's hands, I wouldn't!

72 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:16:10am

re: #63 Ringo the Gringo

Lightworkers don't leave paper trails, they leave only rainbows.

/...get with the program you hope-haters!

And unicorn droppings.

73 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:16:17am

re: #66 Dianna

Shhhh!

I actually backspaced and removed my "unless"! I don't think it would get Charles in trouble, but it didn't seem like a very good idea, even so.

Though it does spring forcefully to mind, doesn't it?

YOU put that thought in my head!

74 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:16:41am

Barack HuSame Obama. . .where in the world have you been?

Inquiring Moms. . .minds want to know.

75 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:16:46am

Oh My God--the Dems have finally nominated the real "Chance the Gardener"

76 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:16:59am

A lawyer with no paper trail? I didn't know such a thing was possible.

77 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:02am

re: #69 buzzsawmonkey

Tread warily.

Don't go getting tired.

78 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:23am

re: #73 debutaunt

I'm broadcasting? Again?

79 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:30am

re: #54 Noam Sayin'

Mandy's new tires.

Good Lord.

Eyebleach for any who are in need. Ahh, that's better.

80 loaded dice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:37am

Anyone and I do mean anyone who votes for a Chicago machine pol i.e. the Illinois Combine should have their heads examined. These are some of the most morally bankrupt pols in the world. From Gov. BJ, Osama Ben Durbin, lil' king richie shortshanks or any other Ill pol they are simply the worst.

81 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:47am

re: #32 buzzsawmonkey

Anyone questioning Obama's lack of a paper trail is a Tabula Racist.

Good one!

82 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:53am

re: #76 Sharmuta

It isn't. We're like slugs--we just leave useless pulp instead.

83 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:18:10am

Obama has his own American Idol traveling show along with his own personal PAC (Drive by Media) for his big campaigning trip to Iraq, I hope the Troops boo him!

84 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:18:15am

re: #78 Dianna

I'm broadcasting? Again?

Any other explanation? You are having dungeness crab for dinner.

85 xtraBilly  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:18:15am

I guess his grandmother, being a typical white woman, threw them out
along with his comic and baseball card collection

86 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:18:22am

re: #34 BGOH

Perhaps these documents were all flushed down the Obama campaign Memory Hole?

And I just saw Sandy Burglar's name dropped. Has it occurred to anyone that the famed Memory Hole may just be Sandy's sock? Someone may want to tackle him and check that out.

Someone check under the bus. . . (sorry, I still like that one)

Maybe in the Rabbit hole, with the hand of the Dhimmabit?

87 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:18:26am

Knock, knock … Who’s there? … Jeremiah Wright … Jeremiah Wright who? … Aw, come on, Barack, you know who I am!

88 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:18:27am

what is he hiding? what is he ashamed of?
does he have nothing to enhance his candidacy? nothing to be proud of?

89 wolfie  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:18:47am

This is getting ridiculous. Just plain ridiculous.
No records. No records anywhere from any time.
Votes "present" constantly.
Empty verbiage, alternating with "position" statements that change so often and so quickly that they are utterly meaningless.
Zip. Nada. Rien. Nihil.
Nobama there at all.

90 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:19:15am

re: #25 MandyManners,

But he wrote his first memoirs when he was, what, 28? I call bullshit.

91 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:19:21am

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

PM Harper is a real mensch.

92 vagabond trader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:19:23am

Medical records: history of substance abuse, heavy nicotine user, eating disorder, consultation for otoplasty.Inquiries re: bilateral orchidectomy.

93 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:19:39am

Let me put it this way- Nobody outside Chicago had ever heard of this guy until some judge threw open Jeri Ryan's divorce case records. Suddenly, he springs on the scene, fully formed, as if out of the head of Zeus, as the presumptive President of the United States. Who set this stage? Who holds these strings? Hmmm...

94 transient  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:19:44am

To keep things in perspective, the missing information does not have to be anything illegal, immoral, or unethical; e.g. meetings with known terrorists, failure to pay social security for undocumented staff, etc. It just has to be something with political traction. They want to avoid anything that could be used by the opposition.

Parks, kids, and puppies are okay.

Tabula rasa.
They want a teflon candidate.

95 winston06  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:19:50am

Obama is phony

96 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:20:22am

re: #85 xtraBilly

I guess his grandmother, being a typical white woman, threw them out
along with his comic and baseball card collection

He was able to distance/disavow/denounce his old record after all. . .

97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:20:40am

The reason there is no paper trail is because Obama sprung forth as a candidate fully formed in an act of immaculate election.

98 joncelli  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:20:43am

re: #54 Noam Sayin'

Gah! Industrial-strength brain bleach! Stat!

99 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:20:54am

re: #82 calcajun

It isn't. We're like slugs--we just leave useless pulp instead.

I thought lawyers left useless post-it notes everywhere.

100 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:21:00am

re: #61 stevieray

He went to Harvard for his law degree after working as a community activist. The lack of a written record of his thoughts while in Harvard is likely a planned occurrence. He must have caught someone's eye way back in his activist days. The only question I have is this: Is the lack of a past an Obama plan, or was he being groomed and advised as far back as his pre law school days... and if so, who was/is pulling the strings.

I tend to think the latter, and I sure would like to know the answer to that question. Someone has to do the research, that picture of Obama with Sorros sure seemed to me to portray a bonding that may go back that long.

101 vxbush  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:21:09am

re: #93 Pullus Iulius

Let me put it this way- Nobody outside Chicago had ever heard of this guy until some judge threw open Jeri Ryan's divorce case records. Suddenly, he springs on the scene, fully formed, as if out of the head of Zeus, as the presumptive President of the United States. Who set this stage? Who holds these strings? Hmmm...

Not quite. He was already running for Senate. Jack Ryan excused himself from the race and the state Republicans brough in Alan Keyes, thinking he had a chance.

102 solomonpanting  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:21:15am

How can a paper tiger not have a paper trail?

103 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:21:18am

maybe he'll release his dental records.

104 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:21:18am

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The reason there is no paper trail is because Obama sprung forth as a candidate fully formed in an act of immaculate election.

Brilliant. :)

105 yma o hyd  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:21:41am

re: #61 stevieray

He went to Harvard for his law degree after working as a community activist. The lack of a written record of his thoughts while in Harvard is likely a planned occurrence. He must have caught someone's eye way back in his activist days. The only question I have is this: Is the lack of a past an Obama plan, or was he being groomed and advised as far back as his pre law school days... and if so, who was/is pulling the strings.

Good question - I think someone is retro-actively wiping is paper trail, or at least they're going through it with a fine tooth comb right now, and it'll all be revealed to great fanfare when they'e finished, before Denver.
Same as with the Birth Certificate ...

I don't think he's been groomed for a long time, not for longer than when he got into the Senate - thats sufficient time for someone like Soros.

106 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:17am

it's all bad or he wouldn't be hiding it.

107 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:21am

Has anyone looked in hillary clinton's closet?

108 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:27am

re: #99 Sharmuta

Them, too.

109 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:39am

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The reason there is no paper trail is because Obama sprung forth as a candidate fully formed in an act of immaculate election.

I was thinking more along the lines of a premature e ... e .... election. Yup, that's it.

110 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:39am

re: #75 calcajun

Oh My God--the Dems have finally nominated the real "Chance the Gardener"

One of my all time favorite movies, and a perfect comparison.

111 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:47am

I love all these papers running after Obama digging up Shiite.


We need to buy/pick up a paper when he is slammed.

112 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:52am

Kind of like THE OBAMA SHOW.

113 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:59am

re: #98 joncelli

Gah! Industrial-strength brain bleach! Stat!

Delivered.

114 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:23:00am

re: #107 Sharmuta

Isn't she still in it? Oops, did I say that?

115 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:23:15am

re: #107 Sharmuta

Has anyone looked in hillary clinton's closet?

No...is she coming out?

116 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:23:30am

re: #105 yma o hyd

Good question - I think someone is retro-actively wiping is paper trail, or at least they're going through it with a fine tooth comb right now, and it'll all be revealed to great fanfare when they'e finished, before Denver.
Same as with the Birth Certificate ...

I don't think he's been groomed for a long time, not for longer than when he got into the Senate - thats sufficient time for someone like Soros.

Yma! How are you doing today, Ma'am?

117 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:24:04am

I've thought about this for months and my conclusion is thus: Obama was hand-picked very early on, probably while he was at Harvard Law, to be the Great Black Hope (or maybe more of a light mocha). He was given positions for which he was utterly unqualified and steadily moved up the ladder of the political machine. He benefited from some lucky breaks, like the Jack Ryan implosion, and from a lot of influence pulling and sneaky dealings. He was deliberately built up as an empty suit with no record that could hurt him. He was expected to run on hot air and biography -- he's biracial! he's new! hope 'n' change!

The question for me is, exactly who was doing the hand-picking and facilitating? Someone in Chicago, or does this run deeper? (*cough* Soros *cough*)

118 Viking6  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:24:15am

re: #19 zombie

or maybe even more evil..

Lou Cypher

/my apologies on the Angel Heart reference, just could not help myself

119 Arbalest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:24:16am

I suspect that Barak Hussein Obama's records, if they exist, will appear only when someone produces evidence of problems: major contacts with Rezko or other unsavory (read: corrupt) characters, direct involvement in one of the housing renovation failures, etc.

If the records don't exist, then, at the very least, BHO looks like a rookie. When you have contact with people, having a written record is good protection against later problems; if you don't learn to keep, and then keep, records, you're either incompetent, a fool, or involved (just like the accusers say).

If BHO is involved, well, the Chicago Machine isn't big enough to cover him nationally.

Start digging.

120 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:24:25am

re: #115 jorline

GMTA

121 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:24:49am

In slightly related news:

I overheard two co-workers discussing obama- one an admitted liberal. They're not comfortable with his flip-flops and vague language. I didn't say anything to them- I'm going to see how it plays out for awhile, but I think this is note worthy.

122 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:25:20am

Spinning the mental rolodex of excuses;

A vast Right wing. . .nah, too Clinton

A sad attempt by the Right. . .nope

Ummmm, James Carville. . . HELL no. . .

It's the economy. . .NO

YOU are the change I want. . .GOLD!

Hope springs from the future, the past is gone. . .
Circle of life, why did you do that Rafiki? Who cares, it is in the past. . .

What was the question?

123 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:25:26am

re: #84 debutaunt

My budget won't support that, so I'm not broadcasting!

Whew! That's a relief!

124 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:25:53am

re: #89 wolfie

This is getting ridiculous. Just plain ridiculous.
No records. No records anywhere from any time.
Votes "present" constantly.
Empty verbiage, alternating with "position" statements that change so often and so quickly that they are utterly meaningless.
Zip. Nada. Rien. Nihil.
Nobama there at all.

I like to this of his view on any point as maintaining a position of rigid flexibility.

125 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:03am

I'm back in Arizona for a few days and it is a FURNACE out here -- today=110, Friday=112, Saturday=110.

Can't wait to leave.

126 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:04am

I just though since other billing records have been known to be in hillary's closet, why not obama's?

127 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:16am

Obama is even retroactively changing his own opinions: Barack Obama purges Web site critique of surge in Iraq

128 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:16am

re: #120 calcajun

GMTA

I'm right there with ya!

129 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:18am

This reminds me of an offhand comment I made to a friend of mine in January who was thinking of voting for O; I told her I think he's a puppet for someone else. There's just not enough substance to Barack Obama. He's a tool for the party that is funding him, no more, no less.

130 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:21am

Past meets bus.

131 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:45am

re: #117 doppelganglander

I've thought about this for months and my conclusion is thus: Obama was hand-picked very early on, probably while he was at Harvard Law, to be the Great Black Hope (or maybe more of a light mocha). He was given positions for which he was utterly unqualified and steadily moved up the ladder of the political machine. He benefited from some lucky breaks, like the Jack Ryan implosion, and from a lot of influence pulling and sneaky dealings. He was deliberately built up as an empty suit with no record that could hurt him. He was expected to run on hot air and biography -- he's biracial! he's new! hope 'n' change!

The question for me is, exactly who was doing the hand-picking and facilitating? Someone in Chicago, or does this run deeper? (*cough* Soros *cough*)


Sounds plausible, except maybe a tad too conspiratorial. I do think he may be a constuct, not what he is being made out to be, but I doubt someone like Soros has actually created him out of nothing.

132 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:48am

re: #123 Dianna

My budget won't support that, so I'm not broadcasting!

Whew! That's a relief!

Safeway just had it on sale - yum!

133 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:54am

re: #65 debutaunt

It all went too quickly. The grooming is far from complete.

The Sith take them as younglings.

/geek

134 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:27:09am

re: #113 lawhawk

Delivered.

Never delve past the proffered link:

Hitler cat!

135 yma o hyd  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:27:09am

re: #116 hermeneutics

Hiya, hermeneutics - freezing my bum off in this British (No~)Summer!
At least it didn't rain here - only up where they were trying to play golf.
How are you?

136 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:27:11am

Hey, I just realized it is two days past my 2 year lizard anniversary! whoo hoo!

137 Deafdog  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:27:49am

Not only that, but has anyone else noticed that you never see BHO and Superman together? It's just like that Clark kent, fellow.

138 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:28:02am

re: #119 Arbalest

I suspect that Barak Hussein Obama's records, if they exist, will appear only when someone produces evidence of problems: major contacts with Rezko or other unsavory (read: corrupt) characters, direct involvement in one of the housing renovation failures, etc.

If the records don't exist, then, at the very least, BHO looks like a rookie. When you have contact with people, having a written record is good protection against later problems; if you don't learn to keep, and then keep, records, you're either incompetent, a fool, or involved (just like the accusers say).

If BHO is involved, well, the Chicago Machine isn't big enough to cover him nationally.

Start digging.


Yes! Dig! Digalot! I bet we find out lots of stuff about the O-man. He is human. Going to be lots of good stuff the media and his handlers don't want the public to know.

139 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:28:11am

re: #94 transient

The problem being, it's not working. The lack of records - of any sort! - is beginning to disturb even the Obamatons.

140 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:28:13am

re: #126 Sharmuta

I just though since other billing records have been known to be in hillary's closet, why not obama's?

Anyone look under the bus?

141 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:28:24am

re: #133 Dar ul Harb

The Sith take them as younglings.

/geek

The Obama stammering is still a problem.

142 yochanan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:29:10am

obama's records have been thrown under the bus.

143 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:29:26am

re: #117 doppelganglander

I've thought about this for months and my conclusion is thus: Obama was hand-picked very early on, probably while he was at Harvard Law, to be the Great Black Hope (or maybe more of a light mocha). He was given positions for which he was utterly unqualified and steadily moved up the ladder of the political machine. He benefited from some lucky breaks, like the Jack Ryan implosion, and from a lot of influence pulling and sneaky dealings. He was deliberately built up as an empty suit with no record that could hurt him. He was expected to run on hot air and biography -- he's biracial! he's new! hope 'n' change!

The question for me is, exactly who was doing the hand-picking and facilitating? Someone in Chicago, or does this run deeper? (*cough* Soros *cough*)

Perhaps he "self-selected" -- not hard when you're a supposed minority in academe/Chicago wards. He kept selling himself as the next JFK to the gullible and desirous. With time, he grew into his own illusion.

Much like an actor who becomes his or her part.

144 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:29:28am
145 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:29:34am

re: #140 jorline

Anyone look under the bus?

I think the shredder might be too valuable to chuck under the bus.

146 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:30:04am

re: #142 yochanan

obama's records have been thrown under the bus.

see my #140...salt and pepper...lol

147 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:30:12am

re: #141 debutaunt

They'll fix it when they program him with further upgrades. Doesn't Michelle remind you -- a little bit-- of Angela Landsbury from The Manchurian Candidate"?

148 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:30:13am

re: #48 Dianna

I'm no authority, but there's a long list of items you have to keep, even if you're a home business. That's got to be some sort of violation.

re: #51 Dianna

No one meets with lobbyists without keeping some kind of record!

For a Democrat politician, there are no retention rules.
Even for statements made on the record.

149 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:30:16am

Here's a thought: What if it turns out that Obama doesn't actually exist?

150 DisturbedEma  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:30:23am

Sorry if that reference is vague, I am still in Lion King loving children age parenting too- 6 year old daughter-

There is a part where Simba is trying to get how this whole "destiny" thing works, seeing as he feels guilty for his dad- Rafiki hits him on the head and when Simba asks why, he is told "it doesn't matter, it is in the past". . .

So, the documents are a part of the circle of life. . .and they do not matter.

I, on the other hand, prefer the James T. Kirk view of the past and the pain that comes with it ". . .I need my pain, my pain makes me who I am. . ."

151 Alouette  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:30:27am

re: #89 wolfie


Empty verbiage, alternating with "position" statements that change so often and so quickly that they are utterly meaningless.

So this is the "change" we keep hearing about.

152 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:30:30am

re: #136 NoSubmission

Hey, I just realized it is two days past my 2 year lizard anniversary! whoo hoo!

My one year anniversary is on 9/11 - a grim day.

153 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:30:38am
154 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:30:54am

re: #136 NoSubmission

WOW close to 12,000 comments in 2 years thats impressive.

155 vagabond trader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:31:05am

re: #149 Occasional Reader

Wishful thinking.

156 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:31:46am

re: #147 calcajun

They'll
fix it when they program him with further upgrades. Doesn't Michelle
remind you -- a little bit-- of Angela Landsbury from The Manchurian
Candidate"?

Barack Obama is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most decent human being I've ever met in my entire life.

157 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:31:46am

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

I keep saying that he's Chance, the Gardener. He didn't really exist until five years ago.

158 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:31:49am

re: #93 Pullus Iulius

Let me put it this way- Nobody outside Chicago had ever heard of this guy until some judge threw open Jeri Ryan's divorce case records. Suddenly, he springs on the scene, fully formed, as if out of the head of Zeus, as the presumptive President of the United States. Who set this stage? Who holds these strings? Hmmm...

Jeri Ryan?

"Resistance is futile. You will be Obamanated."

/geek

159 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:31:58am

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

He's a projection of all our hopes and dreams!

160 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:12am

re: #149 Occasional Reader

Here's a thought: What if it turns out that Obama doesn't actually exist?

Here's the real shocker, What if his "typical white granny" didn't actually exist? LOL

161 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:12am

re: #134 OldLineTexan

Never delve past the proffered link:

Hitler cat!

It seems like that poster could work two ways -- the right could use it as a visual describing the totalitarian/racist policies of the left, no?

162 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:23am

Spains acquits Madrid bombers

MADRID — A Spanish court absolved four men and upheld the acquittal of a fifth on Thursday in the convoluted legal proceedings relating to the 2004 Madrid commuter train bombings that killed 191 people in the deadliest attack by Islamic militants on European soil.

The rulings followed appeals of some of 21 convictions by a lower court after a five-month trial that ended in October. Seven other people were acquitted at that time.

Most dramatically, the court on Thursday upheld the acquittal of one of the bombing’s accused masterminds, Rabei Osman, an Egyptian, who was found guilty in 2006 in Italy of belonging to a terrorist organization.

Mr. Osman was arrested in Italy in June 2004, but disputed prosecution evidence citing wiretaps in which he was purported to have said he had conceived the idea of the attacks.

With the bulk of the convictions upheld and few channels of appeal now left available to those sentenced, some survivors said they saw Thursday’s decisions as moving toward the closure one of the most painful episodes in Spain’s modern history.

“No matter how many convictions or how long the sentences it will seem insufficient to those of us who lost life and limb, but I believe it closes an important chapter that needed closure,” said Jesús Ramírez, the former vice president of the bombing victims’ association, a survivor of the attack whose body was severely burned and riddled with shrapnel on a 7:36 a.m. commuter train from the town of El Pozo on March 11, 2004. The attack was one of several near simultaneous blasts on four commuter trains that day.

163 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:29am

re: #147 calcajun

They'll fix it when they program him with further upgrades. Doesn't Michelle remind you -- a little bit-- of Angela Landsbury from The Manchurian Candidate"?

Much more than a little. Check her pocket for playing cards.

164 FightingBack  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:30am

Not maintaining records is clear evidence of incompetence. It's presumptive evidence of worse, too. Who would promote someone like this to higher office?
Let me guess...

165 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:37am

re: #149 Occasional Reader

Here's a thought: What if it turns out that Obama doesn't actually exist?

Can I buy some pot from you?

166 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:39am

re: #135 yma o hyd

Hiya, hermeneutics - freezing my bum off in this British (No~)Summer!
At least it didn't rain here - only up where they were trying to play golf.
How are you?

I'll write you tonight.

167 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:42am

re: #145 Sharmuta

I think the shredder might be too valuable to chuck under the bus.

No need for a shredder...they stick all of the documents in the fan-blade of the engine.

168 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:50am

re: #156 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

ROTFLMA

Anyone ever see him playing solitaire,either on his laptop or with real cards? Be afraid.

169 stevieray  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:51am

[Gotta run back to work in a minute, so please excuse this post if its sloppy]

1. There are two ways a young up-and-comer gets ahead: his published ideas or his connections... and he didn't write anything. Connections must be the reason!

2. He was handed control of a $50 million political pressure organization by the Annanberg foundation when he had no track record and was only two years out of law school. Why? Could it be connections? You know who else has connections to the Annenberg foundation? Bill Ayers.

3. Even though his stewardship of the Annenberg foundation's Chicago school reform project produced no results, doors continued to open for Obama. No track record of success and no written record demonstrating a deep understanding of issues and society... but he still set records for fastest political rise. The reason..? Connections is the only answer that really fits.

170 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:33:05am

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

He's a hologram.

Or he's being projected into our minds by a powerfully telepathic alien, like the lady on that ST:TNG episode.

171 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:33:12am

re: #149 Occasional Reader

Here's a thought: What if it turns out that Obama doesn't actually exist?

Just a stammering hologram.

172 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:33:16am

re: #117 doppelganglander,

Who does he belong to?

173 yma o hyd  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:33:26am

re: #125 hermeneutics

Gawd - rub it in, why not!
Our max temerature today was 65 - and will be tomorrow ...

174 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:34:14am

re: #75 calcajun

Oh My God--the Dems have finally nominated the real "Chance the Gardener"

ROFL!

Has anyone seen the latest Jib Jab and nearly pee'd themselves over the unicorn shot?

175 solomonpanting  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:34:15am

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

He's a hologram.

He's a hollowgram.

176 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:34:20am

re: #101 vxbush

Granted. My point is, however, that before June, 2004, BO was the Chicago Dem. guy, Jack Ryan was the (prohibitive, from what I was reading) favorite to win an open seat, and then - POOF - in an eight week period BO goes from a guy with a funny name to the media pick to be the next President. Even more suspicious than the feverish drum beating before Bill Clinton's 1988 speech to the democratic convention (we all asked "Bill Who?"). Just seems odd.

177 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:34:21am

And Michelle may not exist, either.

What is the sound of one Whiny-Ass B*tch scowling?

178 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:34:35am

re: #171 debutaunt

Maybe, but Max Headroom was funnier.

179 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:34:57am

re: #161 hermeneutics

It seems like that poster could work two ways -- the right could use it as a visual describing the totalitarian/racist policies of the left, no?

But...but...but...Hitler was a product of the eeeevil Right!

/

Anyhoo, I just thought it a good funny for the cheezburger picture lovers. "I can haz world domination?" sprung to mind.

180 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:35:00am

re: #157 calcajun

I keep saying that he's Chance, the Gardener. He didn't really exist until five years ago.

And Michelle is Louise.

181 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:35:03am

re: #152 debutaunt

My one year anniversary is on 9/11 - a grim day.

that's kind of fitting tho. it's good.

182 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:35:14am
183 opnion  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:35:18am

This guy gets more passes than a wide reciever.
The Media just tries to inoculate him from criticism.
Even on Fox. Major Garret, was reporting on the New Yorker Magazine flap. He said that it was a satire on the 10% who think that Obama is now or ever was a Muslim.
Huh? He was registered in school as a Muslim taking instruction & going to Mosque. He was a Muslim.
Wait for it, soon he will be of virgin birth.

184 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:35:28am

obama is the ultimate sock puppet. Only question is whose hand is up his a$$.

185 amphibian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:35:40am

Oh! oh! I know! Maybe, he's a POD PERSON!

That would certainly explain a few things, wouldn't it? Or maybe when he goes home at night, he closes the blinds, and then the entire top of his head swings open, and this little green Martian dude emerges. Little Green Dude makes a comment in a squeaky voice about "what a day at the office!" and goes to the liquor cabinet to mix himself a strong drink.

What Michelle's problem is, I don't know.

186 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:35:50am

re: #184 newsjunkie_ky

obama is the ultimate sock puppet. Only question is whose hand is up his a$$.

SSSSSoros!

187 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:36:00am

re: #181 nyc redneck

that's kind of fitting tho. it's good.

I just teared up.

188 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:36:07am

re: #154 bulwrk

WOW close to 12,000 comments in 2 years thats impressive.


I guess I spend a lot of time on the computer.

It's been a lot less lately. I'm working 2 jobs and writing a book.
Definitely not sitting around waiting for 'anyone to rescue me' to paraphrase the Associated Press.

189 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:36:10am

re: #182 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, but does he like to watch?

190 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:36:44am
191 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:36:44am

re: #149 Occasional Reader

There is no spoon.

192 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:36:50am

re: #183 opnion

This guy gets more passes than a wide reciever.
The Media just tries to inoculate him from criticism.
Even
on Fox. Major Garret, was reporting on the New Yorker Magazine flap. He
said that it was a satire on the 10% who think that Obama is now or
ever was a Muslim.
Huh? He was registered in school as a Muslim taking instruction & going to Mosque. He was a Muslim.
Wait for it, soon he will be of virgin birth.

Hell, even Mohammed wasn't that special.

193 yma o hyd  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:37:13am

re: #186 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

SSSSSoros!

It has a nice and appropriate hissing sound to it, has SSSSSSSSSSSSorosssssss ....

194 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:37:16am

re: #189 calcajun

Yes, but does he like to watch?

I loved that movie...I think I'll rent it this weekend.

195 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:37:30am

re: #184 newsjunkie_ky

obama is the ultimate sock puppet. Only question is whose hand is up his a$$.

Oprah

196 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:37:52am

re: #156 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?

197 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:38:05am

gtg bbl

198 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:38:13am

re: #193 yma o hyd

It has a nice and appropriate hissing sound to it, has SSSSSSSSSSSSorosssssss ....

yes, yes it does...SSSSSSSSSorossssss the SSSSSnake.....

Like Sssssssalazar Sssssssslytherin..........

199 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:38:21am

re: #107 Sharmuta

Has anyone looked in hillary clinton's closet?

/Huma is probably hiding in there.

200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:38:24am

re: #196 Dar ul Harb

Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?

Where's Sinatra when America needs him?

201 StinkHammer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:38:25am

A few mornings ago as I was leaving home to start my day, I noticed a volunteer arriving to take up her position in the (ugh) Obama campaign outlet that's situated on the ground floor of my apartment building (so close I can smell it). Now, I certainly find Obama's socialistic political ideology repugnant -- and there's no way in hell I'll vote for the shlub-- but I did find myself briefly inclined to at least wander into his election den because the aforementioned volunteer was (without getting too salacious) all kinds of hot. Along the lines of Obama Girl hot. Yowza.

However, I was soon brought out of my (temporary) daze when I noticed the lone bumper sticker attached to her 1982 Toyota Hoopty which read, "Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Republican." Though not particularly prankish I considered whipping up a little sign to affix next to it which says, "They INSIST Upon It."

202 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:38:34am

re: #191 lawhawk

There is no spoon.

And therefore, to fight the nonexistent bad guys: You must learn kung-fu and acquire a lot of firearms.

Huh?

203 opnion  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:39:14am

re: #149 Occasional Reader

Here's a thought: What if it turns out that Obama doesn't actually exist?

Oh but you see he lives in all of us. we will unilateraly disarm & equally spread the wealth.
No real person could make us do that, only a life force.

204 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:39:39am

re: #187 debutaunt

I just teared up.

{debutaunt}
:)

205 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:39:57am

re: #174 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


Has anyone seen the latest Jib Jab and nearly pee'd themselves over the unicorn shot?

I'd never before seen a flash animation that captured the graceful look of classic Disney.

206 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:02am
207 vagabond trader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:17am

And what gives with these humongous contributions he racks up monthly. I'm not buying that a bunch of goofy moonbats are saving up their bottle deposit money and sending it to the Obama. 52 million in June? Something smells funny.

208 opnion  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:25am

re: #192 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
He is the Obama, more a force than a person really.

209 yochanan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:25am

loved the obama mickey mouse logo

[Link: exurbanleague.com...]

210 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:27am

re: #192 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Blasphemy! In two religions! Quick--grab some stones.

211 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:32am

re: #191 lawhawk

There is no spoon.

There's a silver spoon. It's been feeding Obama his whole life.

212 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:36am

re: #202 Occasional Reader

And therefore, to fight the nonexistent bad guys: You must learn kung-fu and acquire a lot of firearms.

Huh?

And then after fighting to free all humanity from the prisons that the non-existant bad guys have made, let's just call a truce & go home. The Matrix sequels were so bad they made the original worse.

213 obscured by clouds  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:48am

A "community organizer" who's so unorganized that he somehow lost all his records? Who may not have even kept records? Who's within reach of the White House?!

And can somebody please tell me what in the hell a "community organizer" even is? This Obama character is such a fraud he'd be hard to create in a fiction novel. We are dooooomed if this guy gets elected. For real.

214 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:54am

re: #131 Golem Akbar

Sounds plausible, except maybe a tad too conspiratorial. I do think he may be a constuct, not what he is being made out to be, but I doubt someone like Soros has actually created him out of nothing.

I recognize how crazy it sounds, and I'm not normally one to go in for conspiracies. I don't think anyone sat down and said, "We're going to make this man President." I think someone may have noted his Chance Gardener qualities and thought, "This is someone we can groom for higher office." Of course, after receiving so much help, Obama is utterly beholden to his masters' interests. If Soros is involved, he must have come into the picture more recently, probably after Obama entered the Senate.

215 Arbalest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:58am

Note that it isn't necessary to have BHO's signature on documents, to use them to ask questions of BHO, only that he would have been involved.

For example, state money from specific state legislative acts that went to BHO's district would involve BHO, and it is reasonable to believe that he had a hand in such votes. Some sort of quid pro quo must've happened, no matter his recorded vote. Get the names of the legislators involved, check newspaper reports, track down where the money went, talk to the recipients of the money, start asking questions.

The failed housing redevelopments come to mind; BHO's good friend Rezko (who made it possible for BHO to obtain a $2.6million house for about $1.6 million) was heavily involved, as was about $42million.

Yet several of the projects went bankrupt, and several are uninhabitable. For $42million?

How is this possible? Where did the money go (names)?

Trusting the state to investigate is a bad choice; sounds like a Federal investigation is needed.

216 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:41:27am

re: #186 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
He is the #1 candidate as the hand.

217 Spider Mensch  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:41:29am

in best Rod Serling voice...

"submitted for your approval...a middle aged politician with no apparent back ground, no history, no concrete position on anything...yet only a breath away from the most powerful position in the world....at the sign post up ahead....you've just entered THE TWILIGHT ZONE! dododoo...dodoodoooo

218 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:41:37am

re: #200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Where's Sinatra when America needs him?

Is this him? ;)

219 solomonpanting  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:42:01am

re: #190 buzzsawmonkey

He's a hologram.

He's a hollowgram.

So his white relatives would be gram crackers?

220 Deafdog  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:42:06am

re: #184 newsjunkie_ky

obama is the ultimate sock puppet. Only question is whose hand is up his a$$.

If you follow the money, it is, ironically, a successful speculator...

George Soros

221 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:42:11am

re: #218 NY Nana

LOL!

222 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:42:33am

re: #199 NY Nana

/Huma is probably hiding in there.

Bill had his cigars, Hillary her Hum-adore.

223 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:42:35am

re: #159 Kenneth

He's a projection of all our hopes and dreams!

Or nightmares.

224 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:43:05am

re: #4 WrathofG-d

these are not the documents you are looking for; move along

These are not the documents I am looking for. Carry on.

225 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:43:07am

re: #200 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Where's Sinatra when America needs him?

Frank Sinatra, martial arts action star.

226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:43:19am

Craziest damn thing. I am in a hotel, the whole hotel is vibrating. Wonder if Obama's here, hotel could just be tingling.

227 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:43:27am

re: #171 debutaunt

Just a stammering hologram.

Rimmer in Red Dwarf.

228 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:43:48am

He's a real nowhere man
Living in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans
For nobody

229 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:43:55am

re: #153 buzzsawmonkey

re: #149 Occasional Reader

Here's a thought: What if it turns out that Obama doesn't actually exist?

He's a hologram.

That would be excellent news! I'm quite certain the Constitution does not permit holograms to be elected President.

230 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:43:59am

re: #202 Occasional Reader,

What's wrong with that?

231 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:44:23am
232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:44:28am

re: #228 Who Watches the Watchmen?

He's a real nowhere man
Living in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans
For everybody

Fixed it for ya

233 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:44:29am

re: #222 Dar ul Harb

Actually, I think Rep. Anthony Weiner is hittin' Huma.

234 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:44:43am

re: #195 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Is she still campaigning for him. I heard somewhere (could be mistaken) that she had pulled back.
I don't read the books she pushes, why would I vote for the candidate she endorses?

Stopped watching her YEARS ago.

235 Spider Mensch  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:44:48am

re: #201 StinkHammer

A few mornings ago as I was leaving home to start my day, I noticed a volunteer arriving to take up her position in the (ugh) Obama campaign outlet that's situated on the ground floor of my apartment building (so close I can smell it). Now, I certainly find Obama's socialistic political ideology repugnant -- and there's no way in hell I'll vote for the shlub-- but I did find myself briefly inclined to at least wander into his election den because the aforementioned volunteer was (without getting too salacious) all kinds of hot. Along the lines of Obama Girl hot. Yowza.

However, I was soon brought out of my (temporary) daze when I noticed the lone bumper sticker attached to her 1982 Toyota Hoopty which read, "Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Republican." Though not particularly prankish I considered whipping up a little sign to affix next to it which says, "They INSIST Upon It."


and also the fact your wife was next to you as you looked at her and kneed you in the groin?

236 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:45:37am

re: #221 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Excellent imitation...that one is a classic.

At least I think it is an imitation!;)

237 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:45:38am

re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Craziest damn thing. I am in a hotel, the whole hotel is vibrating. Wonder if Obama's here, hotel could just be tingling.

That's funny! Did anyone faint?

238 opnion  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:46:12am

re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Craziest damn thing. I am in a hotel, the whole hotel is vibrating. Wonder if Obama's here, hotel could just be tingling.

You lucky @&^%#$#, your having an Obama moment!

239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:46:47am

re: #237 jorline

Musta been a truck parked outside. The tingling just stopped.

OBAMA HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!

240 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:47:05am

re: #174 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Me! I loved it.

241 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:47:12am

re: #230 Iron Fist

,

What's wrong with that?

Well, if we and the bad guys really only exist in a computer program (or some such thing); once I figure that out, shouldn't I fight by, I dunno, writing viruses or something?

242 FightingBack  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:47:25am

re: #183 opnion

Yes, I picked that up, too. His father was a Moslem, wasn't he? Isn't that how it's determined? And, since he is one by birth, why don't they spin that in their usual way? "No religious test" and all?

243 vagabond trader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:47:36am

re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Could be that merely thinking of the Obama channels unexplained phenomena.

244 J. Lichty  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:47:43am

re: #72 Kenneth

And unicorn droppings.

Hope everyone has seen the new jib jab. While they take their shots at both of them, the Obama scenes where he is riding on a unicorn and talking about change, we can change, iis spot on.

245 FreakyBoy  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:47:44am

If you want to go see them, Obama's always maintained his historical documents are open to review.

They are in a U-Store It Closet located in the 57th State.

246 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:47:56am

re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If Chris Matthews is nearby, ask if his leg is tingling? It's sort of an Obama dowsing rod.

247 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:48:07am

re: #207 vagabond trader

I think his money is coming from overseas and not from Americans living abroad.

248 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:48:21am

re: #238 opnion

You lucky @&^%#$#, your having an Obama moment!

Or FBV is in one of those hotels with purple walls, mirrored ceiling and a heart shaped vibrating bed...LOL

249 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:48:40am
250 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:48:52am

someday he is going to be a joke who can't even get booked on t.v. game shows.
do they still have those?
all washed up actors and other has beens competing for a toaster kind of show.

251 StinkHammer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:49:12am

re: #235 Spider Mensch

and also the fact your wife was next to you as you looked at her and kneed you in the groin?

A scenario I'm fairly adept at avoiding (primarily because I'm not married)! But your imagery is certainly the stuff of a cautionary tale...

252 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:49:21am

re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Musta been a truck parked outside. The tingling just stopped.

OBAMA HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!

ROFLMAO...ding

253 quickjustice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:49:21am

Barack Obama-- Man of Mystery! (c) ;-)

254 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:49:24am

re: #53 Orbit Rain

*BINGO*

The guy has basically been walking around the last 12 years shaking hands and engaging in small-talk and doing as little as possible. He doesn't have a record because he hasn't, you know, actually done anything.

That's actually an excellent qualification for Congress. For POTUS, not so much.

255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:49:26am

re: #248 jorline

Or FBV is in one of those hotels with purple walls, mirrored ceiling and a heart shaped vibrating bed...LOL

Cue the pr0n music...
Brown Chicken/Brown Cow.

256 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:49:29am

re: #226 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

the whole hotel is vibrating

Simultaneous Magic Fingers?

257 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:49:50am

re: #241 Occasional Reader,

But viruses aren't as much fun as guns and kung fu. You aren't trying to win. You are trying to maximize the fun!

:-þ

258 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:49:59am

re: #247 newsjunkie_ky

I think his money is coming from overseas and not from Americans living abroad.

Not from the Chinese I am sure the Clintons have that pretty much wrapped up. On second though, maybe not, Hillary and her campaign are in debt, maybe the Chinese have switched their allegiance?

259 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:50:18am

re: #107 Sharmuta

Has anyone looked in hillary clinton's closet?

Is shrillary still in there? Thought she was out already...

260 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:50:31am
261 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:50:40am

re: #252 jorline

Wo0t! I never get dings. I'm tingling again...(but just because of the ding) Thanks!

262 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:50:40am

re: #144 buzzsawmonkey

"Man is conceived in sin and born in corruption, and he passes from the stink of the didie to decay of the shroud. There is always something."

--Willie Stark, in "All the King's Men"


This thread is a fast one (had to go away for 10 minutes and there are 100 more comments!)
Great quote. Fits the O-man to a "T"

263 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:50:43am

re: #225 Occasional Reader

Frank Sinatra, martial arts action star.

When I see that, I always think of the running joke in A Shot in The Dark, where Inspector Clouseau's manservant Kato keeps attacking him.

264 Vergeltung  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:50:44am

re: #207 vagabond trader

And what gives with these humongous contributions he racks up monthly. I'm not buying that a bunch of goofy moonbats are saving up their bottle deposit money and sending it to the Obama. 52 million in June? Something smells funny.

he's obviously getting illegal donations (like the Clinton Chinese donor scandal of yore) from foreign sources, the likes of Soros, and others. all through straw men and phonies. if there were a real MSM in this country, it would be thoroughly investigated, I am sure.

265 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:50:55am
266 J. Lichty  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:51:11am

re: #176 Pullus Iulius

Granted. My point is, however, that before June, 2004, BO was the Chicago Dem. guy, Jack Ryan was the (prohibitive, from what I was reading) favorite to win an open seat, and then - POOF - in an eight week period BO goes from a guy with a funny name to the media pick to be the next President. Even more suspicious than the feverish drum beating before Bill Clinton's 1988 speech to the democratic convention (we all asked "Bill Who?"). Just seems odd.

Jack Ryan was never the favorite. I worked on his campaign, and he trailed in polls even before the hit job. It was always going to be an uphill battle against BHO or Hull. Ryan was a very good candidate and may have made a battle of it in the end, but he was never really close to BHO in the polls.

267 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:51:32am

re: #257 Iron Fist

,

But viruses aren't as much fun as guns and kung fu. You aren't trying to win. You are trying to maximize the fun!

:-þ

Also, I dislike movies in which the good guys are shown shooting cops.

268 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:52:04am

re: #265 buzzsawmonkey

Good point. Hedging their bets and once Obama pulled out in front, they switched all their bucks to him.

269 llanite  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:52:10am

A little Manchurian Candidate anyone:
Eleanor Shaw: I will do whatever is necessary to protect America from anyone who opposes her. I can't... am I the only person in this room who's been reading these NSA reports?

Congressman Healy: I've read them.

Eleanor Shaw: All right, then. You know... you know we are on the brink of another cataclysm, probably nuclear, on our own soil.

Congresswoman Becket: Oh, Ellie, that's a bit extreme.

Eleanor Shaw: And it's not from random terrorists, but from alliances of those who've all been made bold by this kind of one-worlder who believes that human beings are essentially good and that our powers are somehow, I don't know, shameful or evil and never to be used. Make no mistake. The American people are terrified. They know something's coming. They can feel it.

270 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:52:29am

re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cue the pr0n music...
Brown Chicken/Brown Cow.

Too funny...I'm in tears right now...drawing mental picture FBV and it doesn't look good...lol

271 solomonpanting  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:52:35am

re: #264 Vergeltung

he's obviously getting illegal donations (like the Clinton Chinese donor scandal of yore) from foreign sources, the likes of Soros, and others. all through straw men and phonies. if there were a real MSM in this country, it would be thoroughly investigated, I am sure.

The Mark of Sorros

272 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:53:01am

re: #258 JohnnyReb

the money is probably coming from the mid section between Europe, Asia, and Africa.

273 opnion  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:53:09am

re: #242 FightingBack

Yes, I picked that up, too. His father was a Moslem, wasn't he? Isn't that how it's determined? And, since he is one by birth, why don't they spin that in their usual way? "No religious test" and all?

According to Islam, he is considered an apostate, since his father was a Muslim.
We had this discussion before & then a since departed LGF lizard pointed out, that it is what Obama says , not what they say.
Reasonable comment. However it is incontrovertible that he studied Islam & attended Mosque. He may now be in this radical, racist Church with a Christian pretense, formally led by Wright an ex NOI guy, but he spent 32 years as a Muslim

274 Meremortal  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:53:11am

"Jim Geraghty: “Does it bother anyone that a guy with political ambitions for his entire adult life has not left a paper trail?”

Butch to Sundance: "Who IS that guy?"

Let's hope we jump over the McCliff rather than find out...

275 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:53:17am

re: #214 doppelganglander

I recognize how crazy it sounds, and I'm not normally one to go in for conspiracies. I don't think anyone sat down and said, "We're going to make this man President." I think someone may have noted his Chance Gardener qualities and thought, "This is someone we can groom for higher office." Of course, after receiving so much help, Obama is utterly beholden to his masters' interests. If Soros is involved, he must have come into the picture more recently, probably after Obama entered the Senate.

As ready as he is to toss people under the bus, I don't think his masters have as much control as they'd like.

276 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:54:00am

re: #273 opnion

According to Islam, he is considered an apostate, since his father was a Muslim.
We had this discussion before & then a since departed LGF lizard pointed out, that it is what Obama says , not what they say.
Reasonable comment. However it is incontrovertible that he studied Islam & attended Mosque. He may now be in this radical, racist Church with a Christian pretense, formally led by Wright an ex NOI guy, but he spent 32 years as a Muslim

Accidental down ding. Mouse has a life of its own.

277 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:54:25am

re: #146 jorline

see my #140...salt and pepper...lol


off course the records are under the bus..people were getting bored with no reading material.

278 J. Lichty  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:54:47am

re: #249 buzzsawmonkey

It doesn't come up for me, and there's no indication of what program, if any, I'm missing or need to update.

Any suggestions?


Powerline has an imbed which ran better for me than the sendables website.

279 StinkHammer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:54:55am

re: #269 llanite

A little Manchurian Candidate anyone:

From the book, or one of the film adaptations?

(I've owned the book for years, just never gotten around to reading the durned thing.)

280 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:54:56am

re: #270 jorline,

Worse, it involves porn music, a chicken...

...and a vibrating bed. Eeeeewwwwwwwwww!

281 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:55:05am

re: #276 Creeping Eruption

Accidental down ding. Mouse has a life of its own.

fixed that for you CE

282 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:55:28am

re: #263 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When I see that, I always think of the running joke in A Shot in The Dark, where Inspector Clouseau's manservant Kato keeps attacking him.

When I was in law school, for a while I lived in a shared house in which one of our housemates was of Korean origin. We all had great fun when, on arriving home from class, we'd cautiously open the door and ask, "Katoooo?.... Where are you, my little yellow fwiend?"

Fortunately he wasn't a PC type, so he took it all in good fun.

283 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:55:33am

Maybe he could answer 3 questions for me:

1. Who paid for you to go to Columbia University?

2. What did you do each day when you visited Pakistan for 3 weeks during the summer school break before you started Columbia?

3. What made you start fasting after this trip? And why did you stop calling yourself Barry after this trip?

284 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:55:40am

re: #281 jorline

fixed that for you CE

Much obliged.

285 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:56:09am

re: #277 HoosierHoops

off course the records are under the bus..people were getting bored with no reading material.

damn straight... a lot of people under there.

286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:56:44am

re: #280 Iron Fist

,

Worse, it involves porn music, a chicken...

...and a vibrating bed. Eeeeewwwwwwwwww!

I'm right sexy I tell ya!

287 opnion  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:57:35am

re: #276 Creeping Eruption

Accidental down ding. Mouse has a life of its own.

Ok, I will quit sobbing.

288 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:57:55am

re: #280 Iron Fist

Kinky...a feather
Perverted...a chicken

289 3 wood  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:58:03am

re: #44 jcm

How difficult is it for the Chicago machine to disappear a few file boxes?

Piece of cake. I remember years ago a storm sewer backe dup and they found years of amil down there. Some postman had been dumping bags of mail downt here and just sitting in his truck all day.

Rumor has it that lots of people have dissapeared in Chicago over the years too, but I would have no personal knowledge of that.

290 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:58:31am

re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Cue the pr0n music...
Brown Chicken/Brown Cow.

BTW, that's the best transliteration of classic 70s pr0n movie soundtrack I've ever seen.

Uh, not that I would know.

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:58:47am

re: #289 3 wood

Hey Wood! What's up?

292 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:59:03am

re: #288 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Kinky...a feather
Perverted...a chicken

Furry...a chicken suit

293 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:59:08am

re: #271 solomonpanting

The Mark of Sorros


And I stood upon the sand of the sea and saw a beast rise up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns and upon his horns ten crowns and upon his heads the name of blasphemy...

Hope! Change!

294 opnion  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:59:11am

re: #283 faraway

Maybe he could answer 3 questions for me:

1. Who paid for you to go to Columbia University?

2. What did you do each day when you visited Pakistan for 3 weeks during the summer school break before you started Columbia?

3. What made you start fasting after this trip? And why did you stop calling yourself Barry after this trip?

I see where you are going & i would love to hear him respond.
But no one will ask.

295 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:59:21am

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Wood! What's up?

[snicker]

296 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:59:41am

re: #283 faraway

Obama visited Pakistan? Do you have a link for that?

297 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:00:11pm

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Wood! What's up?

brown chicken/brown cow...

298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:00:23pm

re: #295 Occasional Reader

Just don't think 3 had this in mind when he thought of his nic.

299 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:00:24pm

re: #280 Iron Fist

,

Worse, it involves porn music, a chicken...

...and a vibrating bed. Eeeeewwwwwwwwww!

I know...we're all sick puppies

Is Barry White the music?

300 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:00:49pm
301 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:00:51pm

re: #296 Kenneth

Obama visited Pakistan? Do you have a link for that?

He was scouting for that attack he is planning when he assumes power?

302 GreenBear  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:00:58pm

"Help me, Obi-ama. You're our only hope..."

/sarc

303 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:01:06pm

re: #296 Kenneth

Obama visited Pakistan? Do you have a link for that?

Here is one from ABC

304 Llanite  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:01:19pm

That was from the non-classic 2004 remake with Denzel Washington. The IMDB quotes for the '64 version were a little too obscure for the non-insider.

Never read the book either-

re: #279 StinkHammer

305 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:01:27pm

re: #302 GreenBear,

And Change!

306 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:02:19pm

re: #287 opnion

Ok, I will quit sobbing.

The mea culpa was as much for me as you. I fear facing a torrent of comments re: why your reasonable comments were down-dinged (?) I'm glad the tears have dried and you are back in the saddle.

307 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:02:20pm

re: #296 Kenneth

Here, based on this.

308 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:03:00pm

re: #290 Occasional Reader

//looking through OC's library of 70's LP's and 8 tracks.

309 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:03:02pm

re: #293 Iron Fist

and saw a beast rise up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns and upon his horns ten crowns

And they say LSD wasn't invented until 1938. Pfft.

310 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:03:45pm

One commenter at ABC says

Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).

Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.

The would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981:

To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every "True Believer".

For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa.

In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace.

Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone's family in 1981.

311 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:04:06pm

re: #303 faraway

Thanks! As Arte Johnson used to say, "Verrrry interesting!"

I found this too:


In 1981, Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia and then travelled to Pakistan. According to Obama, he was in Karachi for about three weeks and then visited Hyderabad in India.

In Karachi, he stayed with the family of a college friend, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo.

Chandoo is now a self-employed financial consultant, living in Armonk in Westchester County, New York. When contacted, Chandoo said that he would not comment about his relations with his “friend”.

312 quickjustice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:04:07pm

re: #213 obscured by clouds

From [Link: www.theobamafile.com...]

"Both the CCRC and the DCP were built on the Alinsky model of community agitation, wherein paid organizers learned how to "rub raw the sores of discontent," in Alinsky's words.

Alinsky viewed as supremely important the role of the organizer, or master manipulator, whose guidance was responsible for setting the agendas of the People’s Organization. "The organizer," Alinsky wrote, "is in a true sense reaching for the highest level for which man can reach -- to create, to be a 'great creator,' to play God."

One of Obama's early mentors in the Alinsky method was Mike Kruglik, who had this to say to an interviewer of The New Republic, about Obama:

"He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better."

The agitator's job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the "realization" that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and corporations will see imminent "self-interest" in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease.

In these methods, euphemistically labeled "community organizing," Obama had a four-year education, which he often says was the best education he ever got anywhere.

For three years Barack Obama was the director of Developing Communities Project, an institutionally based community organization on Chicago’s far south side. He has also been a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, an organizing institute working throughout the Midwest."

313 Vergeltung  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:04:34pm

re: #273 opnion

a since departed LGF lizard

alot of that lately, both voluntary and involuntary. I'm trying to get a list together of the MIAs, for my own curiousity...

314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:05:11pm

DC playing games with the firearm legislation again

DC Rejects Handgun Application

Dick Heller is the man who brought the lawsuit against the District's 32-year-old ban on handguns. He was among the first in line Thursday morning to apply for a handgun permit.

But when he tried to register his semi-automatic weapon, he says he was rejected. He says his gun has seven bullet clip. Heller says the City Council legislation allows weapons with fewer than eleven bullets in the clip. A spokesman for the DC Police says the gun was a bottom-loading weapon, and according to their interpretation, all bottom-loading guns are outlawed because they are grouped with machine guns.

The DC police are being assinine and vindictive. Based on their logic, I'm betting its fair to say most of the DCPD is currently armed with machine guns.

315 Occam's Beard  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:05:16pm

It's simple enough. Obama's the first Presidential candidate to have been in witness protection!

316 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:05:29pm

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Wood! What's up?

Love the above pun FBV, coming off chicken & cow p0rn music and vibrating beds...lol

317 GreenBear  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:05:43pm

re: #305 Iron Fist

,

And Change!

And is George Soros in the riole of the evil Emperor Palpatine controlling OBH's leash. He wouldn't need much makeup.

The Hope Star will come along and destroy all the conservatives and bring socialism I mean order to the universe...

318 bulwrk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:06:02pm

re: #296 Kenneth

Obama visited Pakistan? Do you have a link for that?

New York Times

319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:07:07pm

re: #313 Vergeltung

Still wish there was a troll/wacked graveyard. It'd be fun/whistful/sad to visit now and again. Like grandma.

320 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:07:15pm

re: #311 Kenneth

To be fair, he might just want to be left alone.

321 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:07:48pm

re: #298 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just don't think 3 had this in mind when he thought of his nic.

LMAO..this thread has been pitched with the bath water.

322 AZDave  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:08:05pm

re: #45 Pyroskank

So he really IS a robot! Soros, you evil genius, you!

Puppet might be more to the point. One can almost see the strings.

323 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:08:45pm

re: #302 GreenBear

"Help me, Obi-ama. You're our only hope..."

/sarc


Baby jesus says pray this way..
Our Obama which art in Chicago, Hallowed be thy name. Thy POTUS shall come. Thy will be done in Congress, as it is in Heaven. Give us our taxes, our daily bread. And forgive us our debts,( esp. the sub-prime mess) as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the GOP: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

/see how easy that was?
//duck and cover

324 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:08:59pm

re: #310 faraway,

Oh! That explains it.

He was there to buy drugs. Obama admits to having used drugs. IIRC, "enthusiastically" was the term he used.

325 vagabond trader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:09:11pm

re: #264 Vergeltung

Yes, I'm thinking the same.

326 Vergeltung  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:09:16pm

re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Still wish there was a troll/wacked graveyard. It'd be fun/whistful/sad to visit now and again. Like grandma.

hear ya.

327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:09:28pm

re: #324 Iron Fist

Hell, I drank the bong water. No problems with that, personally.

328 3 wood  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:10:05pm

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Wood! What's up?

The usual :)

329 AZDave  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:10:26pm

re: #51 Dianna

No one meets with lobbyists without keeping some kind of record!

Maybe these "records" were stored in his wallet.

330 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:11:27pm

re: #328 3 wood

Hey, have you been in touch with Jammie Wearing Fool?

331 grumpy old codger  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:11:50pm

Let's see. No papertrail, no birth certificate, came out out of nowhere. Hmmmmm?
Gadzooks, I've got it. Obama is an alien, probably from the Kos galaxy.

332 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:11:56pm

re: #329 AZDave

Another of those ideas I wasn't going to voice.

333 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:11:59pm
334 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:12:46pm

re: #327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hell, I drank the bong water. No problems with that, personally.

You WHAT?! ewwwwwwww.

335 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:13:07pm

re: #324 Iron Fist

,

Oh! That explains it.

He was there to buy drugs. Obama admits to having used drugs. IIRC, "enthusiastically" was the term he used.

He didn't think he would find any blow in NYC?

336 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:13:10pm

re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

DC playing games with the firearm legislation again

DC Rejects Handgun Application


The DC police are being assinine and vindictive. Based on their logic, I'm betting its fair to say most of the DCPD is currently armed with machine guns.

I don't think it's the police, per se. The city government is being obstructionist. E.g., the "emergency" post-Heller gun regs still require you to have your home firearm locked or disassembled, unless there's a "reasonable threat of immediate harm" or words to that effect. In other words; you can only start taking the lock off when the perp is smashing in your window. Which effectively was the situation pre-Heller (with respect to shotguns/rifles), and which the SCOTUS opinion specifically swatted down. The city is just begging for another case to lose. And of course, we DC taxpayers will pay for it.

337 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:13:13pm
338 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:13:44pm

re: #97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The reason there is no paper trail is because Obama sprung forth as a candidate fully formed in an act of immaculate election.

I'm not sure Alice Palmer quite sees it that way.

339 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:14:21pm

re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir),

The DC police should be disarmed. That includes their SWAT team. OK, let SWAT have baseball bats.

That way they can swat criminals.

Let the cops, especially the cops who guard the DC Council, live like citizens. That'll get rid of gun control right quick.

So will strict scruitny. And a suit against the DC police for $100 million for civil rights violations.

340 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:16:00pm

Summer of 1981 must have been a windfall year for the college student Obama.

Around the world trip to Indonesia, Pakistan and India.

Then, move to NYC and attend Columbia Univ.

341 transient  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:16:15pm

re: #139 Dianna

The problem being, it's not working. The lack of records - of any sort! - is beginning to disturb even the Obamatons.

I don't think it will disturb the left wing enough not to vote for him. But hopefully it will have an effect on the centrists.

Given the propensity of the political system to thrive on negative campaigning, we should not be surprised that someone would push forward a candidate who either has no record, or whose (minimal) record can be easily bleached... blacked out (darn it, so hard to avoid suspicious racial analogy!) disappeared.

342 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:16:24pm

re: #335 faraway,

He had to go to the Source!

Seriously, I want to hear some reporter ask him some real questions about his drug use. When did he get clean and how would be a good place to start.

343 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:16:50pm

#310 faraway

One commenter at ABC says

Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).

Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.

The would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981:

To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every "True Believer".

For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa.

In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace.

Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone's family in 1981.

"That's not the Pakistan I know!" - Barak Hussein Obama

344 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:17:33pm

re: #343 Kenneth

Maybe it's the spiritual discovery he says he's been on.

345 AZDave  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:17:33pm

re: #83 'Nam Grunt

Obama has his own American Idol traveling show along with his own personal PAC (Drive by Media) for his big campaigning trip to Iraq, I hope the Troops boo him!

Now, maybe, he'll be able to share a "dodging sniper fire" moment with Hillary.

346 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:17:35pm

re: #339 Iron Fist

And a suit against the DC police for $100 million for civil rights violations.

Again, it ain't the police doing this; it's the mayor and city government.

347 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:17:52pm

re: #336 Occasional Reader

re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
DC playing games with the firearm legislation again

DC Rejects Handgun Application

The DC police are being assinine and vindictive. Based on their logic, I'm betting its fair to say most of the DCPD is currently armed with machine guns.

I don't think it's the police, per se. The city government is being obstructionist. E.g., the "emergency" post-Heller gun regs still require you to have your home firearm locked or disassembled, unless there's a "reasonable threat of immediate harm" or words to that effect. In other words; you can only start taking the lock off when the perp is smashing in your window. Which effectively was the situation pre-Heller (with respect to shotguns/rifles), and which the SCOTUS opinion specifically swatted down. The city is just begging for another case to lose. And of course, we DC taxpayers will pay for it.

At what point do the courts tell DC to knock it the f*ck off?

348 Vergeltung  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:18:23pm

re: #342 Iron Fist

,
He had to go to the Source!
Seriously, I want to hear some reporter ask him some real questions about his drug use. When did he get clean and how would be a good place to start.

the MDM is definately going to exhaust all resources to dig up an old DWI/DUI on Obama right before the general election for sure!

Oh wait. they're not?

349 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:18:32pm

re: #341 transient

I do have to wonder. However, the house purchase and his association with Rezko simply won't go away.

350 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:18:50pm

re: #336 Occasional Reader

Precisely.

351 Vergeltung  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:18:58pm

re: #348 Vergeltung

PIMF, *MSM

352 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:19:03pm

re: #314 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Time for another lawsuit...

353 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:19:27pm

Obama Raises $52 Million in June

What does he spend it on?

354 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:19:33pm

re: #340 faraway

Summer of 1981 must have been a windfall year for the college student Obama.

Around the world trip to Indonesia, Pakistan and India.

Then, move to NYC and attend Columbia Univ.


How did he afford this, wasn't his mom a poor struggling welfare recipient?

355 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:19:49pm

re: #342 Iron Fist

,

He had to go to the Source!

Seriously, I want to hear some reporter ask him some real questions about his drug use. When did he get clean and how would be a good place to start.


Some reporter did ask.. pretty clever answer too..
Sir..Did you inhale?
yea.. I thought that was the whole idea..

356 yma o hyd  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:20:28pm

re: #353 NoSubmission

Obama Raises $52 Million in June

What does he spend it on?


Hiding his paper trail?

357 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:20:37pm

re: #353 NoSubmission

Obama Raises $52 Million in June

What does he spend it on?

It ain't blog administrators, we know that much...

358 markx  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:20:53pm

re: #9 Racer X

How dare you question the Obamessiah?

Of course there is no paper trail. His was a virgin birth.

359 Vergeltung  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:20:54pm

re: #353 NoSubmission

Obama Raises $52 Million in June

What does he spend it on?

being client # 11?

360 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:20:58pm
361 Spiny Norman  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:20:59pm

re: #310 faraway

One commenter at ABC says
Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).

Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.

The would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981:

To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every "True Believer".

For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa.

In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace.

Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone's family in 1981.

Clearly, he was offering his skills as a community organizer.

Wut?

362 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:21:02pm

re: #346 Occasional Reader,

The Police are the ones violating Heller's civil rights. They may just be following orders, but they are following Unconstitutional orders. This is no different than the cops in Mississippi enforcing a poll tax after the SC ruled that Unconstitutional.

$100 million in punative damages ought to discourage such behavior.

363 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:21:20pm

re: #353 NoSubmission

Obama Raises $52 Million in June

What does he spend it on?


I'm not sure..but he is running ads like crazy in Indiana..

364 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:21:28pm

re: #351 Vergeltung

PIMF, *MSM

Wait, that could work. Main Dementia Media MDM.

365 bosforus  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:21:31pm

I love how Hannity's calling Obama out right now.

366 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:22:14pm

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Didn't we go through this earlier today?

367 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:22:19pm

re: #353 NoSubmission

Obama Raises $52 Million in June

What does he spend it on?

Buses.

368 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:22:32pm

re: #353 NoSubmission

Obama Raises $52 Million in June

What does he spend it on?

Certainly not file cabinets .. bigger wallet maybe

369 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:22:56pm

re: #27 JohnnyReb

I call B.S on the Obama. A lawyer never throws out any, repeat, any records. They do just not do that. They keep every single note, email, scrap of napkin etc. that they ever do. I know about 3 dozen lawyers and they are all the same.
They do this so something they did years ago won't come back and bite them on the ass.

You are referring to the honest lawyers who keep the records for their own protection against baseless allegations of wrongdoing or negligence.
The crooked lawyers often destroy the records or conveniently "lose the file".

370 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:23:00pm

d
Does anyone know why Obama went to and stayed in Pakistan of all the places in the world to visit?

371 Vergeltung  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:23:54pm

re: #370 DistantThunder

d
Does anyone know why Obama went to and stayed in Pakistan of all the places in the world to visit?

good doobie?

372 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:23:55pm

re: #370 DistantThunder

d
Does anyone know why Obama went to and stayed in Pakistan of all the places in the world to visit?

The hash was good? Seriously, no idea.

373 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:23:56pm

Check under the turban. Rumor has it that's where he hides his paperwork.

374 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:24:09pm

re: #370 DistantThunder

d
Does anyone know why Obama went to and stayed in Pakistan of all the places in the world to visit?

I went to the beach during summer break.

375 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:24:18pm

re: #371 Vergeltung


GMTA

376 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:24:47pm

re: #367 Kosh's Shadow

Buses.


:)

377 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:24:51pm

re: #372 turn

The hash was good? Seriously, no idea.

What college kid says; Hey, i know, i want to go to Pakistan.

378 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:24:56pm

re: #370 DistantThunder

d
Does anyone know why Obama went to and stayed in Pakistan of all the places in the world to visit?

Because he was angry and bitter he didn't have his daily allowance of waffles and arugula? /

379 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:25:08pm

re: #370 DistantThunder

d
Does anyone know why Obama went to and stayed in Pakistan of all the places in the world to visit?

Recon for the upcoming invasion..

380 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:25:35pm
381 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:25:38pm

re: #370 DistantThunder,

If we rule out drugs, then it had to be Islam. Pakistan doesn't have anything else to offer.

382 obscured by clouds  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:25:40pm

Can you imagine how much material this guy would provide a Republican Michael Moore? Granted, there is no such thing, but if there was he could make one hell of a "documentary." Which makes me wonder...when in the hell is the McCain campaign going to pounce on this guy? Are they going to try and be "above the fray" and lose this election or are they going to grow a pair and fight to win? If it's the latter, they'd better get with it and quick.

383 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:25:44pm

re: #362 Iron Fist

,

The Police are the ones violating Heller's civil rights. They may just be following orders, but they are following Unconstitutional orders. This is no different than the cops in Mississippi enforcing a poll tax after the SC ruled that Unconstitutional.

$100 million in punative damages ought to discourage such behavior.

DC Mayor unclear on the concept of handguns

The court ruled that a blanket ban on handguns is unconstitutional, but D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty and other Washington officials want to keep in place a prohibition on semiautomatic handguns — those in which a bullet clip is inserted into the gun's grip.

Such a ban would continue to outlaw 9-mm and other popular pistols that are legal in most other places around the United States. And it would make the classic six-shooter the only legal handgun in the District.

The Supreme Court did not specify revolvers or semi-automatics, they stated Handguns were legal. period. End of story.

384 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:25:49pm

re: #377 DistantThunder

What college kid says; Hey, i know, i want to go to Pakistan.

Johnny Taliban is the only one I know.

385 3 wood  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:26:00pm

re: #330 Dianna

Hey, have you been in touch with Jammie Wearing Fool?

Not in the last couple days. I think he is still dealing with his sister's death.

I sent flowers care of the Lizards.

386 vagabond trader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:26:05pm

Gah! Just blocked CNN, cannot take that noise anymore.

387 maddogg  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:26:05pm

re: #353 NoSubmission

Obama Raises $52 Million in June

What does he spend it on?

He's paying off McCains campaign staff. Thats the only explanation that covers all the bases.

388 quickjustice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:26:34pm

re: #382 obscured by clouds

Here's a decent anti-Obama biographical website:

[Link: www.theobamafile.com...]

389 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:26:48pm

re: #362 Iron Fist

$100 million in punative damages

You're being very generous with my taxes...

I'd rather just see an injunction, and something like a consent decree, if necessary.

390 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:26:50pm

re: #377 DistantThunder

Did part of his family have relatives there? Please don't (or please do) tell me he could have been in a Madrassa.

391 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:26:53pm

Man on the street question: Would you rather go to Florida or Pakistan on spring break?

392 wvobiwan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:27:02pm

re: #364 turn

Wait, that could work. Main Dementia Media MDM.

I call them the 'legacy media', simultaneous dis for them and plug for the Web...:>)

393 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:27:21pm

re: #342 Iron Fist

,

He had to go to the Source!

Seriously, I want to hear some reporter ask him some real questions about his drug use. When did he get clean and how would be a good place to start.

And, is he still addicted to and using the drug nicotine.

NObama!
NoSmoking!

394 3 wood  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:27:23pm

re: #353 NoSubmission

What does he spend it on?

Speech lessons for Jesse Jackson, maybe?

395 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:27:27pm

I just checked and the cheapest flight to Pakistan is $3300.

Could buy a lot of blow in NYC for that.

396 Spider Mensch  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:27:29pm

re: #353 NoSubmission

Obama Raises $52 Million in June

What does he spend it on?

the "make you think" part of the article is the "no cash in the bank"...all the money raised so far is spent?...that raises alot of speculation......when does daddy warbucks (soros) open up the wallet again?...doesn't he have a history of getting mad when his spent money shows no real results...and obama #'s are dropping no matter what the msn and the followers say...will be an interesting fall.

397 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:27:47pm

re: #383 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

DC Mayor unclear on the concept of handguns

And of course, as usual: Journos unclear on the definition of "clip"...

398 noshariaincanada  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:29:03pm

Obama,

Osama

it's all the same to me.

/uh oh

399 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:29:11pm

re: #382 obscured by clouds

Can you imagine how much material this guy would provide a Republican Michael Moore? Granted, there is no such thing, but if there was he could make one hell of a "documentary." Which makes me wonder...when in the hell is the McCain campaign going to pounce on this guy? Are they going to try and be "above the fray" and lose this election or are they going to grow a pair and fight to win? If it's the latter, they'd better get with it and quick.

Don't have to look far for material...everything's swept under the bus.

400 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:29:41pm

re: #382 obscured by clouds

Can you imagine how much material this guy would provide a Republican Michael Moore? Granted, there is no such thing, but if there was he could make one hell of a "documentary." Which makes me wonder...when in the hell is the McCain campaign going to pounce on this guy? Are they going to try and be "above the fray" and lose this election or are they going to grow a pair and fight to win? If it's the latter, they'd better get with it and quick.

I'm hoping it's a case where he'll let his VP do the heavy work while he maintains the image of above the fray, that's fine just as long as he doesn't throw the VP under the bus.

401 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:30:13pm

re: #366 Bubblehead II

I wasn't around to play. (I don't think)

402 transient  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:30:15pm

re: #206 buzzsawmonkey

The Hollow Men
--TS Eliot

TS Eliot--
Great poet, even if he was an anti-Semite.

403 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:31:20pm

re: #397 Occasional Reader

And of course, as usual: Journos unclear on the definition of "clip"...

Irregardless of whether you use 'clip' or 'magazine', it still holds 'bullets'

/bait

404 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:31:55pm

re: #370 DistantThunder

d
Does anyone know why Obama went to and stayed in Pakistan of all the places in the world to visit?

To learn Spanish?

405 maddogg  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:33:00pm

They don't know the difference between a bullet and a cartridge but they sure as hell feel qualified to rule against their lawful possession.

406 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:33:07pm

re: #344 faraway

Maybe it's the spiritual discovery he says he's been on.

A peaceful inner struggle to find his core beliefs.

407 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:33:47pm

re: #403 eschew_obfuscation

Irregardless of whether you use 'clip' or 'magazine', it still holds 'bullets'

/bait

That's some master bait, right there...

And here's some more:

Pluff said the argument for allowing semiautomatic pistols might be overstated, at least when it comes to self-defense. Revolvers are more accurate*, more reliable** and easier to manage*** than higher-tech semiautomatic pistols in an emergency, he said.

*false
**true
***false

408 grumpy old codger  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:33:48pm

re: #245 FreakyBoy

If you want to go see them, Obama's always maintained his historical documents are open to review.

They are in a U-Store It Closet located in the 57th State.


We know more about the life of Jesus than we do about BHusseinO's.

409 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:34:09pm

re: #76 Sharmuta

A lawyer with no paper trail? I didn't know such a thing was possible.

Welcome to Chicago. Here's your shredder. Use liberally.

410 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:35:16pm
Obama entered Occidental College in California in 1979, where his freshman roommate was Imad Husain, a Pakistani, who's now a Boston banker. Also, as a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis.

Obama went to Pakistan for about three weeks, traveling with Wahid Hamid and staying in Karachi with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo's family in Karachi and visiting Hyderabad as well.

When Obama arrived in New York, he already knew Sohale "Hal" Siddiqi, a drug addicted illegal alien from Pakistan, who was a friend of Chandoo's and Hamid's from Karachi who had visited Los Angeles.

In about 1982, Siddiqi and Obama got an apartment at a sixth-floor walk-up on East 94th Street.

Siddiqi is identified only as "Sadik" -- a short, well-built Pakistani" who smoked marijuana, snorted cocaine and liked to party.

411 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:35:36pm

re: #391 DistantThunder

Man on the street question: Would you rather go to Florida or Pakistan on spring break?

Let's see, Pakistan, burkhas....Florida, bikini babes.....

Easy choice for me...hello Daytona Beach. :-)

412 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:36:04pm

re: #404 sparrowlake

#370 DistantThunder
Does anyone know why Obama went to and stayed in Pakistan of all the places in the world to visit?

To learn Spanish?

To learn Spanish?

To visit a unicorn ranch?

But seriously, he said he traveled to Indonesia, Kenya and Pakistan with his mother, his sister and 2 Pakistani classmates from college. When in Pakistan he stayed at the family home of one of these classmates.

413 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:36:28pm

re: #388 quickjustice

Here's a decent anti-Obama biographical website:

[Link: www.theobamafile.com...]

Hey great site, thanks for the link.

414 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:37:23pm
415 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:37:31pm
#407 Occasional Reader 7/17/08 12:33:47 pm reply quote 0

re: #403 eschew_obfuscation

Irregardless of whether you use 'clip' or 'magazine', it still holds 'bullets'

/bait

That's some master bait, right there...

And here's some more:

Pluff said the argument for allowing semiautomatic pistols might be overstated, at least when it comes to self-defense. Revolvers are more accurate*, more reliable** and easier to manage*** than higher-tech semiautomatic pistols in an emergency, he said.

*false
**true
***false


Who cares what the argument FOR them is?

What's the argument against them?.....given that most gun fights consist of 3-4 rounds, one could have a 100-round magazine and there would be no difference between a revolver and a semi-auto.

416 Dianna  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:39:22pm

re: #385 3 wood

Thank you!

I sent a card, and wondered if it had arrived, that's all.

417 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:39:33pm

re: #370 DistantThunder

d
Does anyone know why Obama went to and stayed in Pakistan of all the places in the world to visit?

The same reason Bill Clinton went to Moscow in 1969, I suppose.

(Seemed like a fun idea at the time?)

418 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:39:43pm

re: #410 faraway

Link please ...

419 melinwy  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:40:29pm

re: #27 JohnnyReb
my hubby being a retired lawyer I can attest to that fact.

420 transient  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:41:08pm

re: #349 Dianna

I do have to wonder. However, the house purchase and his association with Rezko simply won't go away.

Oh, I wonder too. But then, the chances of my voting for him were slim to begin with, and are now zero.

I am now intrigued by this Pakistan visit. But it could be nothing. From the ABC article:

In 1981 -- the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University -- Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. After that visit, Obama traveled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there. The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.

Doesn't particularly sound like he was there for religious instruction.

421 opnion  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:41:24pm

re: #303 faraway

Here is one from ABC

Let me see, Barry's in college & the Spring Break choices are Cancun or Daytona Beach to have a beer blast and chase women, or visit Pakistan.
Yeah, Pakistan a rigid Islamic society.
Let me think, hummm. Well any college kid would say, no beer & partying for me. I want to go to Pakistan & you know see the architecture.

422 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:41:44pm
423 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:41:57pm

re: #410 faraway

Obama entered Occidental College in California in 1979, where his freshman roommate was Imad Husain, a Pakistani, who's now a Boston banker. Also, as a freshman, he quickly became friends with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, two wealthy Pakistanis.

The Occidental Tourist?

424 jorline  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:42:44pm

re: #414 Killgore Trout

Fishing from a helicopter

thanks for the clip...it would have been funnier if the swordfish would have skewered the fisherman.

425 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:42:47pm

No Documents?

No Documents?

Just turn on the Magical Thinking Cap and breathe deeply. Exhale on these words: Hooooooope Chaaaaaaaaange Meditate on their power.


There! Feel better?

426 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:43:40pm

re: #401 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You weren't. Overnight Open. Starting at comment 337

427 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:43:47pm

re: #389 Occasional Reader,

In some ways this is good. They are clearly violating the Constitution as decided in the Heller case. Since they can't be trusted to police themselves, the next step is for the Federal Government to police them, preferably by throwing out the licensing requirement entirely.

Strict scruitny is also a must. The more the gun controlers break the law clinging to their anti-gun religion, the more likely that the whole corrupt mess will be declared unconstitutional.

But the cops should be refusing to enforce an unconstitutional law. If they arrest anyone for civil disobediance, then the City should be facing maximum civil penalties.

428 ladycatnip  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:45:07pm

Enlightened beings don't need paper trails.

429 turn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:47:31pm

Sonia commented at the ABC article:

"It all sounds very innocent, "a college trip to Pakistan".

Pakistan was in turmoil in 1981 and ruled of martial law. Millions of Afghan refugees were living in Pakistan, while the Afghan Mujahedeen operated from bases inside Pakistan in their war with the Soviets. One of the leaders that based his operation in Quetta, Pakistan was Usama Bin Laden (The Sheik).

Pakistan was on the banned travel list for US Citizens at the time and all non-Muslim visitors were not welcome unless sponsored by their embassy for official business.

The would be only a few reasons a young Westerner of the Muslim faith would travel to Pakistan in 1981:

To Participate in Jihad, which is the duty of every "True Believer".

For religious education in a Wahabbi sect, Saudi funded, Madrassa.

In order to purchase drugs from the drug marketplace.

Pakistan was not a tourist stop nor the place to hang out with someone's family in 1981."

All this is probably true, which makes me even more skeptical with the notion he was just touring around with college buddies scoring some killer hash. There is really more to this story, hopefully more will come out.

430 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:49:07pm

re: #410 faraway

Harold and Kumar go to Islamabad?

431 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:49:47pm

re: #412 Kenneth

#370 DistantThunder
But seriously, he said he traveled to Indonesia, Kenya and Pakistan with his mother, his sister and 2 Pakistani classmates from college. When in Pakistan he stayed at the family home of one of these classmates.

Indonesia - 88.2% Muslim
Kenya - 10% Muslim (including Bubbie Sara and Uncle Moishe live there)
Pakistan - 97% Muslim
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

432 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:50:49pm

re: #430 lawhawk

He was playing Clark Griswald in Islamic Vacation

433 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:51:44pm
434 faraway  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:52:19pm

re: #433 taxfreekiller

The 3% Non Muslim in Pakistan must be brave souls.

Military Advisors

435 docremulac  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:52:49pm

I heard a couple of funny things on the Rush Limbaugh show today. Paraphrasing what I can remember:

- Thou shalt not parody the Obamassiah,
- Thou shalt not question Messiah Lord Obama's mystical work as a community organizer,
- Thou shalt not mention the Messiah Lord Obama's middle name,
- Thou shalt not mention the Messiah Lord Obama's mysterious parents,

Etc or something like that. I use to hate listening to Rush because he sounded like a mindless flack for the Republicants party (spelling intentional) but ever since his drug problem came to light I think the blue bloods kicked him out of the country club set and he's become a pretty funny guy critical of Republicans as well as dhimmicrats.

436 GreenBear  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:53:04pm

re: #433 taxfreekiller

The 3% Non Muslim in Pakistan must be brave souls.

He's only mostly non-Muslim...

437 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:53:12pm

re: #432 faraway

He was playing Clark Griswald in Islamic Vacation

"Kids, are you seeing all this plight?"
BLAM!
"Roll 'em up!"

438 GreenBear  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:55:12pm

re: #437 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Kids, are you seeing all this plight?"
BLAM!
"Roll 'em up!"

What do you mean Wahabi World is closed for Ramadan?!

439 docremulac  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:56:21pm

By the way, I'm sure somebody's posted this already but I'm not seeing it so I'll post it again.

The McCain part if funny but the Obama part is hilarious.

JibJab's new campaign parody.

440 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 12:57:33pm

Huh. Not only is he an empty suit -- he's an empty record!

441 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:01:16pm

re: #433 taxfreekiller

There is a small and regularly abused Christian population. There is also a small pre-Islamic sect in the extreme north of Pakistan.

442 blangwort  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:03:24pm

If Obama wins this election, we will finally have an answer to the question of whether it is possible to fool enough of the people enough of the time.

443 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:03:43pm

re: #441 Kenneth

I have an online friend who is a Professor at one of their universities who is a Christian. He's working hard to get all the 'minority' religions to band together to have some sort of a voice in Pakistan. If you are the praying sort, please pray for Paul and his lovely family.

444 ErnieG  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:06:35pm

Q: What does Barack Obama have in common with the Mafia?

A: They both spend very little on office supplies.

445 Sizzlack  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:11:33pm

Obama has no paper trail because he carries a mobile 'memory hole' with him wherever he goes.

Obama 2008: Bringing '1984' to a home near you

446 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:16:29pm

re: #443 songbird

Will do. These are brave Christians indeed.

447 picaro  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:16:53pm

Was in Florida during Spring Break in '99 and think I would prefer traveling to an exotic and marginally dangerous locale to putting up with a bunch of drooling, puking college students on the Redneck Riviera. When we are young, we think nothing can touch us, so I don't see anything sinister about BO tagging along with a couple of friends to Pakistan (Kashmir, anyone?)

I went to Indonesia in '98 right after the rioting, with our embassy evacuated and State Dept warning against travel there. I just picked a safer location (Bali) and stayed aware of my surroundings. Cuba has a forbidden fruit appeal as well. Why should our government ban free Americans from traveling to any nation with which we are not in open armed conflict?

448 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:17:06pm
449 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:18:21pm
450 melinwy  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:20:34pm

re: #246 calcajun
that made me LOL hahaha

451 Tigger2005  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:20:54pm

re: #93 Pullus Iulius

Let me put it this way- Nobody outside Chicago had ever heard of this guy until some judge threw open Jeri Ryan's divorce case records. Suddenly, he springs on the scene, fully formed, as if out of the head of Zeus, as the presumptive President of the United States. Who set this stage? Who holds these strings? Hmmm...

I thought he came out of the Big Flying Head.

452 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:21:35pm
His state legislative office records may have been thrown out, he told us.

Just askin', might those records have been the property of the State of Illinois?

Just askin', what if the Sun-Times were to uncover evidence that Obama himself threw out, or ordered the throwing out, of such records?

Hmm

453 gymnast  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:21:35pm

The "Invisible Man", (Ellison) assumes the persona of "The Invisible Man", (HG Wells) and the Democrats take their empty suit off to the races. The literary types around here should understand.

454 Tigger2005  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:23:13pm

re: #444 ErnieG

Q: What does Barack Obama have in common with the Mafia?

A: They both spend very little on office supplies.

And a lot on concrete.

455 Sabnen  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:49:17pm

Madison Ave. at work BIG time. This is like taking an empty box and trying to sell it the United States population as the greatest thing you could possibly want.

There is nothing there there. Keep peeling the onion and you'll find . . . nothing in the center. Low calorie, light weight . . . perfect for America!

456 dm60462  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:50:28pm

ARDC Lawyer Search Results from the ARDC database: Name: Barack Hussein Obama
Date Admitted: December 17, 1991
Authorized to Practice?: No

457 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 1:59:36pm

re: #452 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just askin', might those records have been the property of the State of Illinois?

Just askin', what if the Sun-Times were to uncover evidence that Obama himself threw out, or ordered the throwing out, of such records?

Hmm

Good point. I would think at least some of those records, and perhaps all of them, would be the property of the State of Illinois. Public records laws often encompass any record produced or uses in the conduct of public business, and even if these records remained Barack's "property", they are still public records, subject to scrutiny by the public.

458 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 2:02:52pm

re: #457 reine.de.tout

Good point. I would think at least some of those records, and perhaps all of them, would be the property of the State of Illinois. Public records laws often encompass any record produced or uses in the conduct of public business, and even if these records remained Barack's "property", they are still public records, subject to scrutiny by the public.

Subject to criminal charges being leveled if they are deliberately destroyed without proper proceedures being followed?

459 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 2:05:56pm

re: #458 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Subject to criminal charges being leveled if they are deliberately destroyed without proper proceedures being followed?

I don't know. I'm a former public employee in Louisiana, and honestly couldn't answer that question about Illinois. But the lack of paper trail, particularly for someone who was ever in public service, is odd to say the least.

Public entities are not required to keep records forever and ever; there is usually some sort of "retention schedule", and at the end of that period, records can be destroyed.

Important records, of course, are kept longer than others. And again, lack of a paper trail for anyone who was ever in public service is odd.

460 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 2:19:11pm

re: #459 reine.de.tout

Certainly, though not particularly so if you're a CHICAGO politician.

461 pegcity  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 2:59:54pm

re: #27 JohnnyReb

my dad has like 20 boxes of files in the basement

462 morning star  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 3:36:40pm

re: #340 faraway

Summer of 1981 must have been a windfall year for the college student Obama.

Around the world trip to Indonesia, Pakistan and India.

Then, move to NYC and attend Columbia Univ.

What do you think about this scenario: Obama went to Pakistan, met some Islamists and was selected to become the future US president. He went back to the US, moved to New York and attended Columbia. Later, they funded him through some of his numerous Muslim supporters.

Besides, you should read this Frontpage Magazine article about the Muslim Brotherhood's plan to Islamize the West.

463 Ackomanyuki  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 3:39:16pm

I'll bet you this vain bitch still has his English and History notebooks from High School.

464 morning star  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 3:50:41pm

re: #410 faraway

This is also interesting:


The Obama campaign declined to discuss Obamas time at Columbia and his friendships in general. It wont, for example, release his transcript or name his friends. It did, however, list five locations where Obama lived during his four years here: three on Manhattans Upper West Side and two in Brooklyn -- one in Park Slope, the other in Brooklyn Heights. His memoir mentions two others on Manhattans Upper East Side.

[Link: enews.masterempas.com...]

465 kansas  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 3:59:28pm

re: #53 Orbit Rain

*BINGO*

The guy has basically been walking around the last 12 years shaking hands and engaging in small-talk and doing as little as possible. He doesn't have a record because he hasn't, you know, actually done anything.

Considering the unintended consequences from all the legislation that gets passed, it's probably a positive that he hasn't done anything. If only all of them would do nothing. After they repeal all the restrictions on drilling that is.

466 barry the baptist  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 8:33:50pm

What a joke. Too bad that the MSM can't create, er, 'find' some interesting documentation (e.g., Rathergate) that might help us figure out who this guy is. Seems to me that the idea of the Manchurian Candidate may be more valid than we all think......

467 marc in calgary  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:37:15pm

about 100 days to fund er... to find out then...
then it's too late to know.
won't matter in november.

468 Teacake!  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:56:07pm

How has the birth certificate got resolved? Still not sure. I recall something here, but was still confused if the actual document has been made public.

THis guy is even creepier then Kerry and I didn't think that was possible. I'd love to know who all owns this guy beside George and Tony.

469 Teacake!  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:59:57pm

IF this guy can get away with keeping his private information to himself, I think all Americans should have the same right and not have to show any institution or cop or whoever our ID for any reason.

I think these people on the left are so deep into denial they really don't think anything is wrong with this picture.

470 MJBrutus  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:35:59pm

[sarcasm]This is all a distraction from the true issues that effect the lives of the hard-working American people, struggling to make ends meet in George W. Bush's failed economy.[/sarcasm]

I wonder if there's room on the BHO bandwagon for another "political consultant."


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