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Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:44:55 pm PDT

Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things.

Dan Quayle

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1 Macker  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:45:45pm

God, I need a drink.

2 Genosaurer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:46:33pm

re: #1 Macker

God, I need a drink.

Dan Quayle quotes tend to have that effect on people.

3 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:46:43pm

Yay...an open thread!

And here I am just daydreaming about pole-dancers demolishing Yankee stadium....

4 Cheeseland  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:47:38pm

Didnt Quayle once run for office.

5 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:49:29pm

re: #4 Cheeseland

He was once the Vice President. Maybe you've heard of him.

6 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:50:05pm

Potato or Potatoe?! Ask Dan.

7 Cheeseland  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:50:40pm

re: #5 Noam Sayin'

He was once the Vice President. Maybe you've heard of him.

Something about the tomatoe fiasco I think.

8 Genosaurer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:51:30pm

re: #4 Cheeseland

Didnt Quayle once run for office.

He was George Bush Sr.'s Vice President.

To be fair, I always got the impression that he was just a poor public speaker, not an idiot.

But good heavens, some of the things that came out of that man's mouth...

9 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:51:31pm

re: #7 Cheeseland

Something about the tomatoe fiasco I think.

No. It was the potatoe.

10 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:51:38pm

Cheeseland, that was potatoe.

11 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:52:15pm

Well ok, y'all can make fun of Dan Quayle if you want to, but think about this: who would you rather have as POTUS Quayle or Obama?

12 Cheeseland  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:52:50pm

Well he is now an Elder Statesman. Tomatoe, potatoe.

13 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:52:57pm

re: #5 Noam Sayin' HEY NOAM! How are you tonight?

14 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:53:28pm

I'm fairly good at coming up with quotes, but I bow to the master, I cannot top that one..

15 Carridine  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:53:52pm

And with that, I'm off home, back as C...

But I gotta tell you, we just now heard a 3-second tire-squeal followed by a deep THUNK! and we rushed to our windows to look down on a 2-car collision...

Nobody injured, just a serious fender-bender!

/and I'm off, like a herd of turtles!

16 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:54:31pm

Well spell check says it's Potato not Potatoe. Course, Dan didn't have spell check back in the day.

17 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:54:33pm

I'm getting the 'Obabma's a good speaker and doesn't sound like a retard like Bush' bit from some co-workers.

Wasn't Hitler a very eloquent and charismatic public speaker too?

18 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:54:40pm

Dan Quayle would be eminently more qualified than Obama.Unfortunately the media destroyed him.

19 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:54:48pm

re: #8 Genosaurer

He was George Bush Sr.'s Vice President.

To be fair, I always got the impression that he was just a poor public speaker, not an idiot.

But good heavens, some of the things that came out of that man's mouth...

Perhaps we'll be saying this about Obama some day.

20 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:55:04pm

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!

21 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:55:45pm

re: #19 hermeneutics
Some day? Hell, some of us are saying it right now!

22 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:56:07pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!

I wish you had sent it to McCain instead.

23 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:56:31pm

re: #13 realwest

HEY NOAM! How are you tonight?

Hungry!

Haven't eaten since dinner last night. Won't eat again until maybe five or six tomorrow night.

24 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:56:54pm

re: #21 realwest

Some day? Hell, some of us are saying it right now!

Yea, I know. How art thou, Real?

25 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:57:12pm

I like how your co-workers base POTUS selection on public speaking, and not the issues. That's really deep. What a bunch of bright individuals.

26 Charles  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:57:36pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!

Good for you! Doing your part to bring the Dark Ages to America. Congrats!

27 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:58:19pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!

I could have made much better use of that money. Next time you feel like writing a check to idiots, I'll send you my address.

28 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:58:22pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!


Well, it's not like you can buy Indymac Bank stock anymore. That might've been a better buy....

29 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:58:30pm

re: #25 wiffersnapper

I like how your co-workers base POTUS selection on public speaking, and not the issues. That's really deep. What a bunch of bright individuals.

To be honest, I have wished, for eight years, that Bush was more articulate. I think he could have "sold" his Iraq war a bit better had his tongue been as golden as Clinton's.

30 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:58:43pm

re: #26 Charles

Isn't that what the eco-nazis are doing? Putting America in the dark with "alternative energy" like solar power?

31 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:58:50pm

re: #20 George Slivers

A fool and his money...

32 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:59:15pm

re: #29 hermeneutics

Be careful with Clinton's tongue, you don't know where it's been!

33 esch  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:59:39pm

re: #32 wiffersnapper

Be careful with Clinton's tongue, you don't know where it's been!

Damn you! Beat me to it.

34 looking closely  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:59:49pm

Et tu, Quayle?

35 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:59:53pm

Did anybody go see the Glenn Beck show tonight?

36 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 9:59:54pm

re: #33 esch

:D

37 Cheeseland  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:00:06pm

re: #32 wiffersnapper

Be careful with Clinton's tongue, you don't know where it's been!

Mr or Mrs tongue?

38 Genosaurer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:00:17pm

re: #17 Fenway_Nation

I'm getting the 'Obabma's a good speaker and doesn't sound like a retard like Bush' bit from some co-workers.

A good way to respond to this - make them watch any YouTube video of him when he's off the teleprompter.

Good speaker, my foot.

39 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:00:34pm

re: #37 Cheeseland

Touche

40 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:00:37pm

Does anyone want to talk about the recent Ras poll of Nevada? Obama leads 47% to McCain's 45%.

This is a must win state. What is happening?

41 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:01:08pm

re: #32 wiffersnapper

Be careful with Clinton's tongue, you don't know where it's been!

ewwwww. I'm crossing my legs.

42 Genosaurer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:01:15pm

Good speaker?

43 looking closely  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:01:19pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!


Why stop at a thousand?
Its going to take a lot more than that to disprove evolution.

44 shibumi  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:01:42pm

re: #17 Fenway_Nation

I'm getting the 'Obabma's a good speaker and doesn't sound like a retard like Bush' bit from some co-workers.

Wasn't Hitler a very eloquent and charismatic public speaker too?

I think Hitler was one of THE most charismatic public speakers of the 20th century. Sure, he was evil, but there was logic in his evil and he managed to sell his ideas effectively to the German people. Obama is charismatic, but once you get him away from the teleprompter, he babbles. And once he starts babbling (wasn't there an unscripted bit where he said "um" 143 times in something like 10 minutes?) his sales ability is almost nil.

/and Hitler didn't have a teleprompter. Remember that.

45 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:01:51pm

re: #41 hermeneutics

Better than getting a tingle down your leg, right?

46 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:02:05pm

re: #22 hermeneutics

re: #26 Charles
Its you Darwinian fundamentalist who keep us in the Dark ages.

Yeah as a genetic epidemiologist who publishes about five 1st author manuscripts a year, I'll put up my Curriculum Vitae against anyones here.

47 looking closely  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:02:17pm

re: #40 hermeneutics

Does anyone want to talk about the recent Ras poll of Nevada? Obama leads 47% to McCain's 45%.

This is a must win state. What is happening?

The election is months off. . .not much is happening.

The trends are more important than the actual numbers at this point.

48 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:02:42pm

re: #9 MandyManners

Whack me, Whack me hard as it is time to get some sleep and things are getting a little weird.

/Iron Fist Rule sometimes needs a little help

49 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:02:54pm

re: #40 hermeneutics

Does anyone want to talk about the recent Ras poll of Nevada? Obama leads 47% to McCain's 45%.

This is a must win state. What is happening?

I've been to Nevada. No surprise.

50 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:03:18pm

Who cares about whether obama is leading mccain? How the hell is Reid still a senator?!

51 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:03:47pm

re: #46 George Slivers

Excuse me while I whip this out....

52 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:03:56pm

re: #17 Fenway_Nation Based on file footage (and I don't speak German) Hitler made Obama look like a piker when it came to Charisma and charismatic public speaking. Besides, it's not so much what someone says, it's what they think and do and so far I haven't got a CLUE what Obama thinks today - is he for/agianst FISA, The Surge, Attaacking a nuclear armed Pakistan (with Missiles to deliver the nuke warheads), Rev. Wright, Rev Jackson, Rev. Pflegler,
?
What has he done? Just don't know - all I know that he has done is a) got elected to the US Senate (no small feat, there) b) may have won the Dem Party's nomination for President and c) apparently, destroyed all of his paperwork from his days in the Illinois Senate.

53 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:04:09pm

re: #38 Genosaurer

A good way to respond to this - make them watch any YouTube video of him when he's off the teleprompter.

Good speaker, my foot.

They'll take the time to watch MMA or some random kid w/Tourettes syndrome on youtube, but they can't be bothered with anything that doesn't reinforce their view of the Obamessiah....

54 winston06  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:04:35pm

interesting link on Persia

[Link: ngm.nationalgeographic.com...]

55 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:04:41pm

re: #44 shibumi

I think Hitler was one of THE most charismatic public speakers of the 20th century. Sure, he was evil, but there was logic in his evil and he managed to sell his ideas effectively to the German people. Obama is charismatic, but once you get him away from the teleprompter, he babbles. And once he starts babbling (wasn't there an unscripted bit where he said "um" 143 times in something like 10 minutes?) his sales ability is almost nil.

/and Hitler didn't have a teleprompter. Remember that.

I completely agree. Occasionally they'll have WWII era clips of European dictators on television. I find them riveting (in a sick way). Tito. Mussolini. Hitler. They're mesmerizing.

And yes, Obama has the same sort of appeal to crowds, particularly teens and twenty-somethings.

56 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:04:53pm

re: #50 wiffersnapper

Who cares about whether obama is leading mccain? How the hell is Reid still a senator?!

Especially after that speech he made; "coal and oil are making us sick.."
Is he like 5?

57 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:05:05pm

re: #23 Noam Sayin'
Um, oh, yeah, tomorrow is The Day, ain't it! Hey listen, DON'T ride your scooter to that appointment!
LOL!

58 winston06  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:05:22pm

have a good night every one

59 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:06:00pm

re: #56 baxtrice

Oh and "The war is lost." Quite the laugher.

60 Opilio  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:06:19pm
I was recently on a tour of Latin America, and the only regret I have was that I didn’t study Latin harder in school so I could converse with those people.

Dan Quayle

Sorry, Quayle never said that.

He did however say:

• One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president, and that one word is 'to be prepared.'
• Verbosity leads to unclear, inarticulate things.
• I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future.
• The future will be better tomorrow.
• People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.
• I stand by all the misstatements that I've made.
• I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican.

61 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:06:31pm

re: #46 George Slivers

Yeah as a genetic epidemiologist who publishes about five 1st author manuscripts a year...

What do we want to bet they're all full of bullshit?

62 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:06:39pm

re: #24 hermeneutics
I'm still suffering from this effin' toothache -even though I took some extra pain med's tonight (with the doc's permission, of course) and am gonna have to at least try to get some sleep tonight.
How are you doing?

63 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:06:57pm

re: #60 Opilio

Thanks for the mythbusting!

64 cutestguy[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:07:16pm
65 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:07:38pm

re: #37 Cheeseland BOTH!

66 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:08:28pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!

It's your money. LGF did not make you do anything.

67 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:08:28pm

re: #59 wiffersnapper

Didn't he say something about wiping Las Vegas off the map? Umm no. Vegas is gets so much money in tourism he should be friggin happy!


WTF Reid?

68 clgood  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:09:05pm

Charles:

I was just about to leave a comment calling shenanigans on that Quayle quote, but Opilio beat me to it. I've been trusting your quotes. Don't let me down!

Best,

Craig

69 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:09:20pm

re: #40 hermeneutics
What's happening is a) it's WAAAY too early for any polls to be accurate; hell we haven't even had either party's convention yet and b) even when it's time for polls (e.g., 2004 when on election eve, the polls had Kerry beating Bush) you can't trust 'em!

70 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:09:28pm

Re- Nevada , unfortunately, the biggest area Las Vegas has been repopulated with Californians , thus the liberal bent. The remainder of Nevada are Conservative.Can't really say how they will vote, but my gut says McCain.

71 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:09:46pm

re: #67 baxtrice

Yeah, that's some "change" there, Reid

72 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:10:07pm

re: #46 George Slivers

re: #26 Charles
Its you Darwinian fundamentalist who keep us in the Dark ages.

Yeah as a genetic epidemiologist who publishes about five 1st author manuscripts a year, I'll put up my Curriculum Vitae against anyones here.

I hope you have a good proof-reader 'cause your grammar sucks.

73 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:10:07pm

re: #61 Noam Sayin'

When I review papers for my field, if the authors try to evoke evolution to explain their data, automatic rejection.

I'd rather live under islamic tyranny than Darwinian fundamentalist tyranny any daY

74 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:10:22pm

re: #46 George Slivers

Please do.

75 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:10:43pm

re: #52 realwest

Based on file footage (and I don't speak German) Hitler made Obama look like a piker when it came to Charisma and charismatic public speaking.

Turning off the sound -- or not being able to translate well -- reveals so much more. You can watch Hitlers eyes scan the listeners. He revels in their adulation and moves his body toward them.

Mussolini is animated, almost frantic. He works his crowd into a frenzy.

I hate to overuse the Hitler meme, but Obama's technique is far more similar to Hitler's than Mussolini's. But only on script. In one-on-one interviews, when Obama's nervous, he falls apart. When he's cocky, he overspeaks -- when nervous, he babbles.

76 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:10:46pm

Night Night

77 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:11:02pm

re: #48 Bubblehead II

I don't go around doing this for free, ya' know.

*whack*

78 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:11:08pm

re: #71 wiffersnapper

Where are these democrats coming from? It's like they all lost their marbles! Or maybe I'm living in the mirror universe?

79 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:11:25pm

Mandy, are we being graded on grammar? If we are I am SOL!

80 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:11:34pm

re: #46 George Slivers
" I'll put up my Curriculum Vitae against anyones here."
Hopefully all those manuscripts were edited by someone with a decent grasp of the English language.

81 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:11:42pm

re: #72 MandyManners

If you can't counter a brilliant argument that destroys your viewpoint, point out the spelling and grammar errors!

Bravo!

82 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:11:47pm

re: #50 wiffersnapper

Who cares about whether obama is leading mccain? How the hell is Reid still a senator?!

Good question.

83 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:12:00pm

Boy, this guy just does not get it. Bush merely lifts the ban and oil drops $9.

Gore Urges Congress To Maintain Ban On Offshore Drilling
Former Vice President Al Gore urged Congress not to overturn a federal ban on offshore drilling and complained that lawmakers are "being stampeded by lobbyists for special interests" eager to lift the moratorium.

84 pat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:12:04pm

Dan Quayle has the best quotes. As good as WC Fields.

85 clgood  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:12:28pm

What on earth is "Darwinian fundamentalism"? Mr. Slivers is either a tool or a troll. I hope they aren't, you know, scientific papers he's rejecting.

Gotta love people who can't tell science apart from religion or politics.

86 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:12:32pm

re: #73 George Slivers

When I review papers for my field, if the authors try to evoke evolution to explain their data, automatic rejection.

I'd rather live under islamic tyranny than Darwinian fundamentalist tyranny any daY

You've got a bee in your bonnet! What's going on?

87 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:12:39pm

re: #73 George Slivers

When I review papers for my field, if the authors try to evoke evolution to explain their data, automatic rejection.

I'd rather live under islamic tyranny than Darwinian fundamentalist tyranny any daY

GO TO IRAN, YA' NUT.

88 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:12:48pm

re: #72 MandyManners

Crap, I went to public school, do you grade on a curve? LOL

89 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:13:18pm

re: #81 George Slivers

If you can't counter a brilliant argument that destroys your viewpoint, point out the spelling and grammar errors!

Bravo!

You were the one trying to go all intellectual on us.

90 shibumi  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:13:32pm

re: #55 hermeneutics

I completely agree. Occasionally they'll have WWII era clips of European dictators on television. I find them riveting (in a sick way). Tito. Mussolini. Hitler. They're mesmerizing.

And yes, Obama has the same sort of appeal to crowds, particularly teens and twenty-somethings.

As an adult, I have a hard time listening to Obama. He seems to hold no solid position, and his speeches seem to be filled with overblown 'hope and change' rhetoric that do nothing but make the willing feel good about themselves. All style and no substance. After his first ten minutes in the spotlight, his supposed style also became tedious to me.

In WWII, the leaders had plans. Some were very unpleasant plans, but they were fully formed plans that they did indeed manage to articulate without using a teleprompter. Or a producer whispering answers to them into their in-ear monitor.

91 esch  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:13:40pm

re: #75 hermeneutics

In one-on-one interviews, when Obama's nervous, he falls apart. When he's cocky, he overspeaks -- when nervous, he babbles.

Absolute newbie. I'm completely disgusted anybody takes him seriously. Heck, with that much assistance and coaching, I could do better than him. I've done public speaking.

92 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:13:43pm

re: #79 nigella

Mandy, are we being graded on grammar? If we are I am SOL!

You're not a fucking moron. Big difference.

93 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:14:15pm

re: #70 nigella

Re- Nevada , unfortunately, the biggest area Las Vegas has been repopulated with Californians , thus the liberal bent. The remainder of Nevada are Conservative.Can't really say how they will vote, but my gut says McCain.

I hope you are right. The number of registered Democratic voters is now 6% more than those who have registered Republican. SIX PERCENT! I find this frightening.

Hopefully, they'll be conservative Dems who won't vote for a hard-leftists like Obama.

94 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:14:41pm

re: #88 baxtrice

Crap, I went to public school, do you grade on a curve? LOL

See my No. 92, please.

95 pat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:15:18pm

Pelosi is beyond dumb. She is an idiot. Someone who should have been institutionalized.
/Oh wait. She is. She is in Congress. Where the morons go.

96 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:15:33pm

re: #73 George Slivers

When I review papers for my field, if the authors try to evoke evolution to explain their data, automatic rejection.

I'd rather live under islamic tyranny than Darwinian fundamentalist tyranny any daY

Then you're a bigger dumbass than I figured.

97 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:15:45pm

re: #94 MandyManners

See my No. 92, please.

Yay! I'm not a moran (sp?)

*tee hee*

98 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:15:58pm
99 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:16:01pm

re: #78 baxtrice

Where are these democrats coming from? It's like they all lost their marbles! Or maybe I'm living in the mirror universe?

Man is in a horrible accident. Family rushes him to the hospital and anxiously awaits news. Finally the surgeon comes out, sorrowfully tells the family that despite all his efforts the gentleman is brain-dead, but the heart still beats.

The wife starts wailing in agony, "My God, we've never had a Democrat in the family before!"


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100 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:16:29pm

Mandy, I gave you a plus for two reasons.... I like you and I needed some positive reinforcement!Thanks

101 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:16:37pm

re: #77 MandyManners

I know, but a couple of my posts on earlier threads probably deserved at least one. See ya in few.

Thanks {Mandy}

102 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:16:50pm

re: #73 George Slivers

When I review papers for my field, if the authors try to evoke evolution to explain their data, automatic rejection.

I'd rather live under islamic tyranny than Darwinian fundamentalist tyranny any daY

Does your mom know you're on her computer?

I have a PHD in Grammatical Confabulation and my girlfriend is a Brazilian girl who gives fantastic head. Also, I'm rich and I drive a Ferrari.

Go on, ask me anything. I'll destroy you ALL.

/internet badass

103 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:17:09pm

re: #64 cutestguy Yep. Sorry I don't have the link for it, but it was linked to by at least one poster out here today; despite being legally obligated to retain all of his legislative papers for - iirc 8 years - Sen. Obama has none of those papers as he routinely destroyed them - many of them apparently in a GREAT HURRY after he won election to the US Senate and then ran for the Dem nomination.
True story and has been reported on as reputable MSM outlets as you can get these days, maybe the WaPo.

104 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:17:10pm

re: #99 razorbacker

LOL - Never heard that one before.

105 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:17:19pm

*** Wonders if Charles is dealing with Slivers as only he can ***

106 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:17:34pm

re: #90 shibumi

As an adult, I have a hard time listening to Obama. He seems to hold no solid position, and his speeches seem to be filled with overblown 'hope and change' rhetoric that do nothing but make the willing feel good about themselves. All style and no substance. After his first ten minutes in the spotlight, his supposed style also became tedious to me.

In WWII, the leaders had plans. Some were very unpleasant plans, but they were fully formed plans that they did indeed manage to articulate without using a teleprompter. Or a producer whispering answers to them into their in-ear monitor.

I have the same reaction. He seems like such a light-weight. Other "grown-ups," though, seem entranced by him. I can't figure it out.

107 shibumi  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:18:01pm

re: #75 hermeneutics

Turning off the sound -- or not being able to translate well -- reveals so much more. You can watch Hitlers eyes scan the listeners. He revels in their adulation and moves his body toward them.

Mussolini is animated, almost frantic. He works his crowd into a frenzy.

I hate to overuse the Hitler meme, but Obama's technique is far more similar to Hitler's than Mussolini's. But only on script. In one-on-one interviews, when Obama's nervous, he falls apart. When he's cocky, he overspeaks -- when nervous, he babbles.

I've seen much more of Hitler than JFK. It seems to me that Obama can only hold up on script- both Hitler and (I think) JFK both seemed to be able to speak coherently when they were called upon to be extemporaneous. Obama, not so much. And that's a huge problem I think. Huge.

108 Macker  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:18:51pm

re: #44 shibumi

I think Hitler was one of THE most charismatic public speakers of the 20th century. Sure, he was evil, but there was logic in his evil and he managed to sell his ideas effectively to the German people. Obama is charismatic, but once you get him away from the teleprompter, he babbles. And once he starts babbling (wasn't there an unscripted bit where he said "um" 143 times in something like 10 minutes?) his sales ability is almost nil.

Isn't that all those "ums" kinda like Al Pacino in Scarface? Imagine Obama replacing all his "ums" with that!

109 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:20:00pm

re: #102 Pawn of the Oppressor

Go on, ask me anything. I'll destroy you ALL.

/internet badass

Pffftt.

I have super powers - watch this:


*flies around room*

110 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:20:03pm

re: #86 songbird

I really enjoyed this site.... Broke the Dan Rather Fraud case.... Stood up to liberal elitism that was supporting terrorism.... Oh wait ... The motives of this site are more anti-religion and anti free speech. A full out attack on ID and its supporters with opposition to academic freedom. As a scientist I am well aware of how dogma hinders progress. Most stuff you review lacks originality or creativity. These ID guys tried to think outside the box. How dare they. Paranoia. Let's expel them they must be religious nutcases.

111 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:20:06pm

re: #98 DesertSage

Obama/Marx '08!

I love it. Maybe I'll get one and parade around one of the lefty places I visit. But then again, maybe not. I'm not willing to put myself in the crosshairs.

I'd rather convince, not anger or irritate. Gotta get them to converse.

112 cutestguy[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:21:03pm
113 conservativeChick  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:21:04pm

Slow day today.

114 pat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:21:18pm

re: #73 George Slivers

When I review papers for my field, if the authors try to evoke evolution to explain their data, automatic rejection.

I'd rather live under islamic tyranny than Darwinian fundamentalist tyranny any daY

That does not make one whit of sense. None.

115 Macker  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:21:39pm

re: #109 Racer X

You mean it's not Wonder Twin Powers...Activate!?

/snicker

116 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:21:49pm

re: #109 Racer X

Pffftt.

I have super powers - watch this:


*flies around room*

swishhhhh...

...swishhhhh

/Al Gore swishy noise from South Park

117 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:21:56pm

re: #107 shibumi

I've seen much more of Hitler than JFK. It seems to me that Obama can only hold up on script- both Hitler and (I think) JFK both seemed to be able to speak coherently when they were called upon to be extemporaneous. Obama, not so much. And that's a huge problem I think. Huge.

Hopefully, then, it will be revealed in the debates. But Obama will be coached and coached and coached. He seems to learn the script fast. If he spouts out memorized answers well, people may not see what a stumbler he is.

I guess I'm afraid he'll manage to deceive ordinary voters on the fence.

118 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:21:58pm

re: #110 George Slivers

The motives of this site are more anti-religion and anti free speech.


You're not very smart are you?

119 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:22:18pm

re: #81 George Slivers
Um, what brilliant argument? You told us how great you were - smarter in fact than anyone out here, even though I know there are at least three posters out here right now with PhD's.
You posted your CV and then insulted all of us.
If that qualifies, in your mind, as a brilliant argument, I sure hope y'all stick around, we haven't had anyone like you to slice and dice since Octopuss!

120 BigJohn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:22:48pm

re: #107 shibumi

I've seen much more of Hitler than JFK. It seems to me that Obama can only hold up on script- both Hitler and (I think) JFK both seemed to be able to speak coherently when they were called upon to be extemporaneous. Obama, not so much. And that's a huge problem I think. Huge.

Billy Jeff Clinton was the best that I had ever seen when he was off script, but even he pretty much sucks these days.

121 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:22:51pm

re: #110 George Slivers

I really enjoyed this site.... Broke the Dan Rather Fraud case.... Stood up to liberal elitism that was supporting terrorism.... Oh wait ... The motives of this site are more anti-religion and anti free speech. A full out attack on ID and its supporters with opposition to academic freedom. As a scientist I am well aware of how dogma hinders progress. Most stuff you review lacks originality or creativity. These ID guys tried to think outside the box. How dare they. Paranoia. Let's expel them they must be religious nutcases.

No, let's marginalize them, because they're unscientific cranks? I'm pretty sure that's how the whole "science" thing works.

122 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:23:28pm

re: #116 Pawn of the Oppressor

LOL!

Thanks. I keep forgetting the sound effects.

124 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:24:11pm

re: #110 George Slivers

Massive insult to Charles.

125 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:24:14pm

re: #110 George Slivers

I really enjoyed this site.... Broke the Dan Rather Fraud case.... Stood up to liberal elitism that was supporting terrorism.... Oh wait ... The motives of this site are more anti-religion and anti free speech. A full out attack on ID and its supporters with opposition to academic freedom. As a scientist I am well aware of how dogma hinders progress. Most stuff you review lacks originality or creativity. These ID guys tried to think outside the box. How dare they. Paranoia. Let's expel them they must be religious nutcases.

I'm an ID person myself, but this is Charles' blog. I think the open discourse helps us to have a broader understanding of both sides. There is much we don't know, and can't comprehend. Do you see a problem with that? I see a problem with the possibility of someone embracing Islam just because they believe in creationism.

126 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:24:39pm

re: #122 Racer X

LOL!

Thanks. I keep forgetting the sound effects.

Messrs. Parker and Stone, Prophets of Our Times, have made Al Gore more entertaining in parody than he will ever be in reality.

127 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:24:51pm

re: #123 Typicalwhitey

I give up - who?

128 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:25:10pm

Email me, George.

129 Macker  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:25:57pm

re: #73 George Slivers

That must mean you love bohica.

130 pat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:26:05pm

I am a Christian, with both Jewish and Christian family and roots. And yes we all get along. But no one in my family rejects evolution. We just wish angry, murdering cultists would do it faster. I went to a religious High School. We learned about Darwin in biology. Seemed OK.

131 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:26:21pm

re: #109 Racer X WOW! That was cool! Hey Racer X - how far can you fly in a straight line?
I mean, that WAS IMPRESSIVE my friend!

132 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:26:30pm

Nancy Pelosi called Bush a 'total failure' today.

In other news, the approval rating for the Democrat controlled congress hit a record low-14%!

133 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:27:10pm

re: #73 George Slivers

When I review papers for my field, if the authors try to evoke evolution to explain their data, automatic rejection.

I'd rather live under islamic tyranny than Darwinian fundamentalist tyranny any daY

So you reject them on religious grounds?

134 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:27:15pm

re: #120 BigJohn

Billy Jeff Clinton was the best that I had ever seen when he was off script, but even he pretty much sucks these days.

Interesting. I agree. The little off-handed comments made by Clinton were often witty. Do you remember when his teleprompter broke and he gave his STATE OF THE UNION speech from memory, with only some notes. Amazing.

135 Steffan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:27:34pm

re: #8 Genosaurer

He was George Bush Sr.'s Vice President.

To be fair, I always got the impression that he was just a poor public speaker, not an idiot.

But good heavens, some of the things that came out of that man's mouth...

No, Quayle was, and is, an idiot. During the '88 campaign, his handlers had to sit him down and get him to tone down the act -- Bush Sr. gave us more than one highly visible wince at some of the things ol' Danny-Boy did.

Besides, remember Deadeye Dan's loud moral preaching about the prospect of a fictional character on TV (Murphy Brown) having an illegitimate child?

Bush Sr. was miscast a bit as president. Once he got the job, he didn't seem to know what to do with it. I think that's a major contributor to Clinton's win in '92.

Well, that, and GHWB's.... unfortunate.... choice of a running mate.

136 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:27:44pm

re: #113 conservativeChick

Slow day today.

Would you rather the fur be flying over the "usual"? LOL

/sarcasm

137 Thorfin  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:27:46pm

Lets start a good fight out there tonight. What do you Lizards think?


Multiculturalism? Using it to Fracture the American Society?

Multiculturalism - What is this? Have you a clue? I don't know about you but I am an American. I am an American First, Second and Last.
I am not an:
African - American,
Indian (India)- American
Italian - American,
Irish - American,
Czech - American,
French - American,
Scottish - American,
Mexican - American,
Cuban - American,
Or any other type of hyphenated American.
Most of America or American are like me a damn heinz 57 or mutt. I am a product of the American melting pot. Most children second or third generation are the same. If you are not willing to assimilate why are you here? Why did you fight to get here? What is the use of being here? Why did you not stay where you came from if you do not want to be here to be one hundred percent here.

I am tired of having to be culturally correct. I am an American and proud to be one. If you do not appreciate the values of American then why did you come here? Is it not time for us MUTTS to stand up and say " Hey, We are proud to be called just AMERICANS." I am not wanting to incite hate toward any others but it is time that we stand and say ASSIMILATE OR GO HOME, YOU CAME TO AMERICA TO BE AN AMERICAN SO BE ONE.

I am tired of having to feel like a second class citizen in my own country.

138 tommygum  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:27:56pm

Anyone heard from our favorite Kenworth wrangler lately? Haven't seen him post in a while.

139 Macker  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:28:01pm

re: #134 hermeneutics

Interesting. I agree. The little off-handed comments made by Clinton were often witty. Do you remember when his teleprompter broke and he gave his STATE OF THE UNION speech from memory, with only some notes. Amazing.

Hmmm...perhaps Obama's teleprompter can do the same thing some day....

140 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:28:33pm

re: #111 hermeneutics

Hermie, I won't even put a McCain bumper sticker on my truck for fear of some moonbat doing damage to it.

141 tommygum  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:28:37pm

re: #132 DesertSage

Was that MINUS 14%?

142 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:28:48pm

re: #125 songbird

Open discourse! Give me a break. All you find here is condescension and arrogance. The Darwin establishment has become more like the Catholic Church in the Dark Ages, ever seeking to oppress its critics.

143 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:28:50pm

re: #127 Racer X

IT IS ME!

144 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:29:08pm

re: #112 cutestguy
"What is the Messiah trying to hide, hmmm?"
We don't KNOW - he destroyed it all!Which, even though against Illinois law, apparently contained material Obama was ready to risk going to jail for.

145 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:29:11pm

re: #131 realwest

WOW! That was cool! Hey Racer X - how far can you fly in a straight line?
I mean, that WAS IMPRESSIVE my friend!

I'm up to mach 6.2 without refueling (Snickers™ bar). London to New York in about 45 mins.

RcRX-71

146 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:29:12pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF...

Project much?

147 Steffan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:29:21pm

re: #115 Macker

You mean it's not Wonder Twin Powers...Activate!?

/snicker

More like Moon Crystal Power, MAKE UP!

/heh

148 pat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:29:47pm

re: #139 Macker

It was my wish that we let taxfreekiller deal with Obama's teleprompter for about 10 minutes. lol

149 Thorfin  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:30:24pm

140 DesertSage 7/17/08 10:28:33 pm reply quote 0

re: #111 hermeneutics

Hermie, I won't even put a McCain bumper sticker on my truck for fear of some moonbat doing damage to it.

Put one in the back window of the SUV right next to my .308

150 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:30:29pm

re: #147 Steffan

More like Moon Crystal Power, MAKE UP!

/heh

up-ding for that! LOL

151 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:30:43pm

re: #143 Typicalwhitey

Awesome!

wha'd he say?

152 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:30:47pm

I just had an epiphany today......

I can't completely shake the feeling that this whole election is staged by some of the Hollywood studios, since it seems to be incorporating storylines from nearly every blame-America-First Hollywood movie from the last 10 years. We have Obama as the protagnist, a supposedly intelligent and articulate man of mixed background inspiring millions with a message of hope and change- ready to show us fat, stupid, indifferent, bitter and petulant Americans the error of our ways. We're polluting the earth and Americans are hated the world over, but he can change this! People are rooting him from the Left Bank to the West Bank.
Opposing him is the stock crusty old white guy with an extensive military background (and the sinister military-industrial complex ties by extention) who just doesn't have a clue or is just evil. Under him, the CIA and US military will continue running missions like they did in Syriana, Shooter or The Seige (i.e. arbitrarily detaining/killing/opressing brown people) with only a few brave souls (Micheal Pena in Shooter or Ryan Philippe in Stop Loss standing up against all this blatant injustice....

Seriously....it's like nearly every Hollywood film dealing with the military or 21st century US foreign policy has been trying to prepare us for the coming of the Obamessiah....

153 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:30:52pm

re: #133 Syrah

Good papers don't need rely on the "Darwon of the Gaps" cliche to explain their data

154 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:31:18pm

re: #123 Typicalwhitey
I give up, who?!?

155 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:31:31pm

George Silvers, I don't know you personally nor do I agree with you as I am not versed enough in this subjec t. That being said I feel you are allowed to have your opinion.I agree with songbird.I have to say this is Charles blog and he has control over its' content. You are free to have your opinions, but don't be surprised if you are challenged.I do admire one who sticks to their beliefs.

156 BigJohn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:31:47pm

re: #134 hermeneutics

Interesting. I agree. The little off-handed comments made by Clinton were often witty. Do you remember when his teleprompter broke and he gave his STATE OF THE UNION speech from memory, with only some notes. Amazing.

Yeah, he was pretty slick. I couldn't stand him, but he had skills. A photographic memory makes things easier.

157 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:31:50pm

re: #132 DesertSage

Nancy Pelosi called Bush a 'total failure' today.

In other news, the approval rating for the Democrat controlled congress hit a record low-14%!

The woman has some nerve. Really, for any politician to say that about any other politician... It boggles the mind. Especially her, who has presided for barely a year and a half over the most useless gathering of loud-mouthed nitwits since the French Revolution.

158 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:31:56pm

re: #148 pat

That would be a real hoot.

TFK's Syntax is an art. I can't imagine Obama being able to get past the fifth syllable without biting his tongue off.

159 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:32:08pm

re: #137 Thorfin

Most of us, even those only one or two generations removed from immigration, have assimilated to such an extent that customs, language and habits from "the ol' country" have been forgotten. In their place are purely American habits.

There are those who claim there is no "Americanness." I disagree. There is an attitude and worldview that is distinctly American. You've got that attitude when you no longer identify with any other culture but this one, when your heritage is ancient history.

160 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:32:20pm

re: #154 realwest


It IS ME!

161 pat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:32:22pm

re: #140 DesertSage

Hermie, I won't even put a McCain bumper sticker on my truck for fear of some moonbat doing damage to it.

They may be less than you think. In my occupation I meet a lot of die-hard lefties. No enthusiasm for Obama whatsoever. Taxes and oil. He is striking out.

162 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:32:30pm

re: #142 George Slivers

Open discourse! Give me a break. All you find here is condescension and arrogance. The Darwin establishment has become more like the Catholic Church in the Dark Ages, ever seeking to oppress its critics.

People can have their say. I don't have to agree or participate.

Would you really rather live under Islamic shaira law? Have you thought through the ramifications of that preference? If you are a Christian, you will be killed - tortured first then killed - under islamic tyranny.

Under "Darwinian Fundamentalist Tyranny" you get to live, you get to do your job, and, as a scientist you would be useful to society so 'survival of the fittest' kicks in for lucky you.

I'm a lowly music teacher. I guess I'm screwed either way.

163 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:32:42pm

re: #155 nigella

He's just here to start a flame war.

164 looking closely  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:32:59pm

re: #110 George Slivers

These ID guys tried to think outside the box. How dare they. Paranoia. Let's expel them they must be religious nutcases.


Its hard for me to think up anything more "in the box" than a belief that an anthropomorphic diety created human beings by blowing the wind of life into sculpted earth.

I don't want to go all "scientific" on you, but what could *possibly* be more dogmatic than a non-testable theory about supernatural creation?

165 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:33:12pm

re: #140 DesertSage

Hermie, I won't even put a McCain bumper sticker on my truck for fear of some moonbat doing damage to it.

Perhaps this explains the dearth of Republican/conservative bumper stickers?

166 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:33:34pm

re: #152 Fenway_Nation

Lets just hope the "Hollywood ending" is a spoiler.

167 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:33:35pm

re: #153 George Slivers

Good papers don't need rely on the "Darwon of the Gaps" cliche to explain their data

Good papers on what?

Context would matter. What kind of papers are you reviewing? For what field?

168 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:33:41pm

re: #142 George Slivers

Open discourse! Give me a break. All you find here is condescension and arrogance. The Darwin establishment has become more like the Catholic Church in the Dark Ages, ever seeking to oppress its critics.

Boring.

/should we kick it around some more, or give it to the cat?

169 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:34:15pm

re: #142 George Slivers

Open discourse! Give me a break. All you find here is condescension and arrogance. The Darwin establishment has become more like the Catholic Church in the Dark Ages, ever seeking to oppress its critics.

If you don't like it, why don't you just go away?

170 cutestguy[deleted]  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:34:17pm
171 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:34:22pm

re: #138 tommygum
Uh, if y'all mean Savage_Nation, he was banned about 3-4 weeks ago.

172 Thorfin  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:34:39pm

re: #159 hermeneutics


You are as you correctly stated an American when the Hyphan goes after not before.

173 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:34:41pm

Click on McCain answers questions
The second questioner is me.

174 Steffan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:35:09pm

re: #132 DesertSage

I've seen 9%.

175 Hard Right  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:35:11pm

re: #110 George Slivers

I really enjoyed this site.... Broke the Dan Rather Fraud case.... Stood up to liberal elitism that was supporting terrorism.... Oh wait ... The motives of this site are more anti-religion and anti free speech. A full out attack on ID and its supporters with opposition to academic freedom. As a scientist I am well aware of how dogma hinders progress. Most stuff you review lacks originality or creativity. These ID guys tried to think outside the box. How dare they. Paranoia. Let's expel them they must be religious nutcases.

Guilty of projection and delusion. Sad.

176 Optimizer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:35:12pm

re: #73 George Slivers

When I review papers for my field, if the authors try to evoke evolution to explain their data, automatic rejection.

I'd rather live under islamic tyranny than Darwinian fundamentalist tyranny any daY

Sorry, but you cannot possibly be for-real. Actually, at first I thought your first post on this thread was just a poor attempt at a joke.

177 tommygum  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:35:20pm

re: #171 realwest

Uh, if y'all mean Savage_Nation, he was banned about 3-4 weeks ago.

WOW, I missed that.

178 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:35:53pm

re: #143 Typicalwhitey

IT IS ME!

Is that really you? Well, good for you, Whitey!

179 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:36:11pm

LoL: greetings from the holy city of Rome!

180 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:36:20pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!

And to think, you could have given that money to a worthy charity that helps people in need, rather than the million dollar strong Disco Institute.

You're full of shit, and you're trolling.

181 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:36:43pm

re: #178 hermeneutics


Yes it is!
I could hardly wait for the open thread so I could post it!

182 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:37:14pm

Let's not feed the trolls anymore guys, they'll starve and go away.

(hopefully)

183 tommygum  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:37:20pm

re: #171 realwest

Thanks, Lockheed guy. I used to have the Hudson avatar.

184 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:37:20pm

Fenway, you are entirely correct in your theory. From what I have read, and I am not into conspiracy theory's but George Soros has a hand in this.

185 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:37:22pm

re: #145 Racer X
Whoa mama! Can ya come over tonight and bring a couple of six-packs with ya, so Mr. Silvers' belief in our substandard educations and intellectual abilities won't be challenged? I mean, he's sorta standing in the corner shaking from head to foot NOW!

186 Steffan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:38:10pm

re: #40 hermeneutics

Does anyone want to talk about the recent Ras poll of Nevada? Obama leads 47% to McCain's 45%.

This is a must win state. What is happening?

What's the margin of error?

Statistically, it's a dead heat. With all the fawning press, you'd think Obama would be doing a lot better than he is. Wasn't Dukakis up by something like 20 points at this time in that race?

187 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:39:02pm

re: #162 songbird

You are not a "lowly music teacher." You bring culture to the minds of children. That's not lowly -- that's amazing!

188 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:39:46pm

re: #148 pat Pat that wasn't fair nor nice. TKF can and frequently does use the english language as well as does Sen. Obama. And TFK is a freind of mine, not out her to defend himself!

189 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:40:03pm

Noam, right you are. I'm so jazzed today. Mild mannedr Nigella was deleted today. Makes me feel like a rebel.....

190 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:40:30pm

re: #163 Noam Sayin'

Hey, Noam? If you wanna' live on the West Coast, I'm amenable to this.

Here's a better view.

Have your people talk to my people.

191 lummox  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:40:36pm

Wasn't Dukakis up by something like 20 points at this time in that race?

We can only hope for a video of Obee riding around in a tank when he visits Iraq.

192 tommygum  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:40:44pm

re: #186 Steffan

What's the margin of error?

Statistically, it's a dead heat. With all the fawning press, you'd think Obama would be doing a lot better than he is. Wasn't Dukakis up by something like 20 points at this time in that race?

I think polls are a stacked deck.

193 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:40:48pm

re: #181 Typicalwhitey

Yes it is!
I could hardly wait for the open thread so I could post it!

You make me laugh, Whitey. Its a good pic and the audience -- and McCain! -- seems rapt.

Is your shirt pink or red?

194 Steffan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:41:36pm

re: #137 Thorfin

Teddy Roosevelt got it right the first time.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.
This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.
But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.

Go read the rest. It's a keeper.

195 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:41:52pm

re: #179 migueldowninmexico

LoL: greetings from the holy city of Rome!

Miguel! How are you doing? Are you really in Rome?

196 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:42:11pm

re: #189 nigella

Noam, right you are. I'm so jazzed today. Mild mannedr Nigella was deleted today. Makes me feel like a rebel.....

Just don't go crushing beer cans on your forehead.

197 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:43:18pm

Dear lizards,

It has been a 'long time' and 'no time at all' since 9-11-01. As a New Yorker who witnessed that day I will never forget. I surfed into LGF looking for people who were knowledgable of the event and I found that and much more. But I need to change my icon. I cannot 'wear' the World Trade Center anymore. Thank you all.

198 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:43:53pm

re: #152 Fenway_Nation
Hey listen - first of all I did respond to one of your posts in #52 and thought I detected a whiff of hopelessness there.
Don't be hopeless. Movie folks and the natural enemies of freedom in this country (all of Hollywood, Unions, Kos, HuffPoo, DU and the like) ALL OF 'EM are against Freedom.
And I'll betcha Freedom wins.

199 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:44:47pm

I should have been deleted for my spelling/ crushing a wine bottle on her head since she doesn't drink beer.......

200 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:44:55pm

re: #186 Steffan

What's the margin of error?

Statistically, it's a dead heat. With all the fawning press, you'd think Obama would be doing a lot better than he is. Wasn't Dukakis up by something like 20 points at this time in that race?

Ras never publishes his partisan breakdown so that piece of info is missing. His MOE is the standard 3%, I assume, but I"m not sure. Take a look at this, if you are interested, and let me know what you think of his analysis.

[Link: www.davidwissing.com...]

The first entry, "Antoher Look at that Nevada Poll."

201 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:45:13pm

re: #73 George Slivers

MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA. PLEASE.

202 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:45:32pm

re: #193 hermeneutics
It is pink

203 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:45:49pm

re: #190 MandyManners

Not enough trees.

204 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:45:53pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!


Next time you want to donate try here or here as these organizations actually do help people.

205 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:46:07pm

re: #168 Pawn of the Oppressor Ah hell, just give 'em to the cat.
He's not only boorish, he's also boring.

206 JeremyR  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:46:46pm

re: #17 Fenway_Nation

I'm getting the 'Obabma's a good speaker and doesn't sound like a retard like Bush' bit from some co-workers.

Wasn't Hitler a very eloquent and charismatic public speaker too?

That is just so wrong, comparing Obama to that... that... that rank amature.

207 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:46:46pm

re: #202 Typicalwhitey

It is pink

Next time wear a patriotic RED. :)

Actually, those of us who are light-haired should wear navy, don't you think?

208 G'day Mate  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:47:36pm

This is a heap of fun!
The Obama quote generator.
[Link: www.buttafly.com...]

209 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:47:50pm

re: #195 hermeneutics

Miguel! How are you doing? Are you really in Rome?

I'm fine thanks! HOW About YOU?
I'm not in ROme hehehe, that was a joke for LoL ;)

210 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:48:24pm

re: #202 Typicalwhitey

Wow TW, you're a hottie!

You're married, right?

211 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:48:30pm

re: #199 nigella

I should have been deleted for my spelling/ crushing a wine bottle on her head since she doesn't drink beer.......

That's gotta' hurt.

212 Marvo76  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:48:37pm

re: #19 hermeneutics

Perhaps we'll be saying this about Obama some day.

As opposed to Gore? (global warming hint!)

213 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:48:51pm

re: #203 Noam Sayin'

Not enough trees.

We can plant some...together.

214 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:48:52pm

re: #207 hermeneutics

The place was packed, standing room only.
I would say that at least half of the people there were under 30.
And a good number appeared to be in their late teens/early twenties.

Several standing ovations and when you hear hollaring occationally, that is my sister and I !

215 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:49:02pm

re: #199 nigella

Look- I've enjoyed your posts in the past, so with all due respect- please quit whining you got deleted for telling our host what to do with his blog. You weren't the first, and I doubt you'll be that last, but whining about it isn't going to gain you much sympathy.

216 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:49:14pm

Botched link
here

217 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:49:25pm

re: #162 songbird

Islamic Tyranny, wife has to wear a Burka but other religions allowed to exist.

Darwinian Tyranny, kids forced to go to re: #204 Neo Con since 9-11

I donate to other groups as well. My research has been quite profitable. I was not even going to send the Discovery Institute funds this year. What can I say, LGF motivated me!

Keep up the good work.

I need to get to bed, I've got an R01 to finish, and several paper for NEJM and JAMA to finish reviewing, before I present grand rounds, "Darwinism and the end of science"

218 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:49:33pm

re: #210 DesertSage

Yes lol.
DId you see the video?

219 BigJohn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:49:47pm

re: #173 Typicalwhitey

Click on McCain answers questions
The second questioner is me.

Great Job Whitey.

220 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:50:04pm

re: #204 Neo Con since 9-11

Next time you want to donate try here or here as these organizations actually do help people.

Your first link has a funky little re-direct.

221 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:51:25pm

re: #187 hermeneutics

You are not a "lowly music teacher." You bring culture to the minds of children. That's not lowly -- that's amazing!

Thanks. Although I may have needed a sarc tag for that one. I'm terribly cognizant of my role in society as a bearer of culture. Slivers has his blinders on and cannot deal with opposing views on his hot button issues.

222 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:52:04pm

re: #217 George Slivers

What I meant to say,

Darwinian Tyranny, kids forced to go to indoctrination camps.

223 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:52:05pm

re: #219 BigJohn


Thank you!
I have been so excited all day.

After it was over he came over and gave my sister and I a hug and said he would not forget my nephew!

224 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:52:14pm

re: #217 George Slivers

Islamic Tyranny, wife has to wear a Burka but other religions allowed to exist.

How many synagogues are there in Iran? Saudia Arabia? Yemen?

225 Steffan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:52:25pm

re: #165 hermeneutics

Perhaps this explains the dearth of Republican/conservative bumper stickers?

I'd think so. It's why the only political bumper sticker I have says Cthulhu 2008.

226 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:52:35pm

re: #218 Typicalwhitey

Yes lol.
DId you see the video?

Yep, that's how I knew you were a hottie.

Now, about this marriage....happily?

227 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:52:46pm

re: #214 Typicalwhitey

The place was packed, standing room only.
I would say that at least half of the people there were under 30.
And a good number appeared to be in their late teens/early twenties.

Several standing ovations and when you hear hollaring occationally, that is my sister and I !

Sounds like a great time, actually. Missouri?

228 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:52:53pm

re: #217 George Slivers

And why do I get the feeling that you'd not mind forcing your wife to wear a burkha?

229 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:53:56pm

Mandy, it would have hurt if I hadn't drank the whole bottle,! Sharmuta, all I can say is "lighten up Francis." I'm not looking for sympathy. I'm excited that I got deleted.I don't live by hearing you all feel sorry for me. I do have a life! I enjoy interacting with you all. I'm really not a "moooorooon"

230 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:05pm

re: #213 MandyManners

We can plant some...together.

You are too cute for words.

But think about it. If we had a big forest around us, we could run through it naked... together.

231 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:25pm

re: #173 Typicalwhitey
Cool! (Although I thought the first guy would NEVER shut up!). Great thing you did with your Nephews' dog tag too, great question and hey - you're damn good looking!

232 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:37pm

re: #221 songbird

There is no point in the pretense of civil discourse when you opponents seek to destroy your livelihood for even questioning Darwin Dogma. Take Dr. Gonzales at U of I as an example. Brilliant scientist fired for being supportive of ID

233 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:43pm

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!

Well, somebody has to fund anti-intellectualism. Better you than me.

234 Marvo76  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:54:45pm

re: #81 George Slivers

If you can't counter a brilliant argument that destroys your viewpoint, point out the spelling and grammar errors!

Bravo!

someone did that to me the other night too!

235 BigJohn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:55:02pm

re: #223 Typicalwhitey

Thank you!
I have been so excited all day.

After it was over he came over and gave my sister and I a hug and said he would not forget my nephew!

Hopefully he'll be President McCain and it will be that much more special.

236 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:55:09pm

re: #228 MandyManners

mandy and all--george is not for real--too over the top--dont fall for it-

237 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:55:11pm

re: #198 realwest

There wasn't really hopelessness there...just disappointment for every Redacted, In The Valley Of Elah, Stop Loss, Rendition, The Seiege, Syriana, Arlington Road, etc that comes out. I'm not even surprised anymore....just profoundly disappointed when I look at the body of work for the last decade by uber-rich and pampered cretins who clearly hate this country and see them rewarded with a big fat payday....

238 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:55:16pm

re: #225 Steffan

I'd think so. It's why the only political bumper sticker I have says Cthulhu 2008.

Okay, I'm slow. I don't get it. What is CTHULHU? Why evil?

239 zombie  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:55:44pm

re: #40 hermeneutics

Does anyone want to talk about the recent Ras poll of Nevada? Obama leads 47% to McCain's 45%.

This is a must win state. What is happening?

What's happening is that a lot of otherwise perspicacious people such as yourself are taking these slanted polls seriously.

Do not believe any polls between now and November 3. They ALL have an agenda --- I don't care what the reputation of the polling company is. And even when they don't have an agenda, one gets the "Clever Hans" syndrome and respondents sometimes end up answering the way they think the young, college-age pollsters want them to answer.

Remember that all the polls (with a single exception) had Kerry beating Bush by an average of 4%, on the last day of the campaign.

And lastly, the purpose of these slanted polls is to make everyone think an Obama victory is inevitable, but just as in 2004 I think they will end up having the reverse effect: they will make Democrats feel complacent, and will spur Republicans to greater effort -- only furthering McCain's (unseen) lead.

240 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:55:51pm

re: #224 MandyManners

Actually there is quite a large Jewish community living in Iran.

241 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:56:05pm

re: #208 G'day Mate

This is a heap of fun!
The Obama quote generator.
[Link: www.buttafly.com...]

Too much fun!

"I think it's time we had a national conversation about meanness. We need to get past all the ignoramuses and recognize that we are our own best hope for overcoming moonbats. We need Lizards, not trolls. Lizards are our respect. And we need to have change in meanness."

"You know, there's a lot of talk in this country about meanness. Well I think Americans are tired of the same old ignoramuses. Ordinary Americans believe in Lizards, they want less trolls, they just aren't sure if their leaders believe in respect."

HAHAHAHA

242 zombie  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:56:29pm

re: #43 looking closely

Why stop at a thousand?
Its going to take a lot more than that to disprove evolution.

All the money in the world can't suppress the truth.

243 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:56:42pm

Zombie, always the voice of reason.

244 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:57:23pm

re: #226 DesertSage

Sometimes LOL

245 freetoken  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:57:45pm

re: #232 George Slivers

. Take Dr. Gonzales at U of I as an example. Brilliant scientist fired for being supportive of ID

First of all, Dr. Gonzales is at ISU, not U of I. Secondly, he was non-tenured. To get tenure he has to earn it, and his department determined it would not be good to give him tenure because (1) the quantity of his research was declining, and (2) he failed to get grants. The last one is the kicker or course, for without the $ coming in there will be no research for not only him but also for any graduate students.

This was written up in the Des Moines Register.

246 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:57:49pm

re: #209 migueldowninmexico Hola Miguel, mi amigo! I hope you're still doing well - and our shifts have once again overlapped by a minute or two! LOL!
It's great to see you out here my brother.

247 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:57:55pm

re: #229 nigella

Whatever. You whined on that thread and now you're whining on this one. It's unbecoming. Just my 2 cents.

248 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:58:20pm

re: #227 hermeneutics

Yes in Kansas City.
I got interviewed by nbc and the AP and some others asked for info on me and my nephew!

249 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:58:28pm

re: #242 zombie

Your right, evolution isn't falsifiable. Unless you happen to have a time machine.

250 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:59:01pm

re: #246 realwest

Hola Miguel, mi amigo! I hope you're still doing well - and our shifts have once again overlapped by a minute or two! LOL!
It's great to see you out here my brother.

same here! RW :)

251 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:59:36pm

re: #153 George Slivers

Good papers don't need rely on the "Darwon of the Gaps" cliche to explain their data

Give me something to work with.

Good papers on what? What kind of papers are you reviewing? For what field?

252 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:59:42pm

O.K. I apologize if I was seen as whining.I personally don't think I was but if Shamruta says I did ....well you all decide....

253 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 10:59:59pm

I'm late on this thread...

Is that a real Dan Quayle quote?

Was he really that dumb?

254 Marvo76  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:00:05pm

re: #137 Thorfin

Lets start a good fight out there tonight. What do you Lizards think?


Multiculturalism? Using it to Fracture the American Society?

Multiculturalism - What is this? Have you a clue? I don't know about you but I am an American. I am an American First, Second and Last.
I am not an:
African - American,
Indian (India)- American
Italian - American,
Irish - American,
Czech - American,
French - American,
Scottish - American,
Mexican - American,
Cuban - American,
Or any other type of hyphenated American.
Most of America or American are like me a damn heinz 57 or mutt. I am a product of the American melting pot. Most children second or third generation are the same. If you are not willing to assimilate why are you here? Why did you fight to get here? What is the use of being here? Why did you not stay where you came from if you do not want to be here to be one hundred percent here.

I am tired of having to be culturally correct. I am an American and proud to be one. If you do not appreciate the values of American then why did you come here? Is it not time for us MUTTS to stand up and say " Hey, We are proud to be called just AMERICANS." I am not wanting to incite hate toward any others but it is time that we stand and say ASSIMILATE OR GO HOME, YOU CAME TO AMERICA TO BE AN AMERICAN SO BE ONE.

I am tired of having to feel like a second class citizen in my own country.


I believe Teddy Roosevelt had something to say about that...Wish Ih ad his quote handy....

255 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:00:09pm

re: #250 migueldowninmexico

glad to see you are doing well and back posting miguel!

256 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:00:23pm

re: #231 realwest

Thanks Real!
Even my 10 year old daughter was excited.
She said, mom he shook my hand twice and I am never washing it LOL

257 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:00:27pm

Rasmussen also has the race tied in the national poll.
Gallup has Obama up by two nationally.

Obama is actually doing worse then Kerry was at this time in '04.

258 conservativeChick  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:00:29pm

Nancy(Botox) Pelois called President Bush a failure and said that her and her congress are trying to clean up his mess even though her and her congress have a lower approval rating then Bush. The story is from the AP but since I know Charles is boycotting them I won't link to them here but the story is on Yahoo's homepage.

259 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:01:38pm

re: #255 mikeymom

glad to see you are doing well and back posting miguel!

so kind of you! Thanks :)

260 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:01:53pm

re: #3 Fenway_Nation

Yay...an open thread!

And here I am just daydreaming about pole-dancers demolishing Yankee stadium....

Their thighs aren't THAT strong?

261 Steffan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:01pm

re: #200 hermeneutics

Interesting. He brings up a very valid point about the partisan breakdown nationwide -- looks like Howie's GOTV campaign is working, at least for the moment.

I still think, though, that Obama should be polling higher than he is. Something tells me that his campaign bus might have a flat or two from all the former friends he's thrown under it.

262 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:09pm

Hey Miguel!
So glad to see you online!

263 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:36pm

re: #256 Typicalwhitey

TW--did you submit questions in advance or were you randomly chosen? good job, btw!

264 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:37pm

re: #256 Typicalwhitey

I'm still watching that video (you were great!). I'm liking McCain more and more.

265 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:02:50pm

re: #253 Ringo the Gringo

Dan kinda proved Darwin was wrong.

266 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:03:28pm

re: #40 hermeneutics

Does anyone want to talk about the recent Ras poll of Nevada? Obama leads 47% to McCain's 45%.

This is a must win state. What is happening?

Don't be so concerned. I lie to political pollsters every time, just to screw with them. I've sounded so pro-Democrat that I now get mail from the chumps.

I wish everyone would. I these political types decided that polling no longer works, maybe they'd actually have to articulate their own views. And if that happened maybe we'd see a different political class.

267 realwest  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:03:34pm

Well all y'all it's really late here and I'm gonna at least TRY to sleep through this tooth pain, so I'm off to bed!
I hope all of you (except Mr. Silvers) has a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Goodnight, all.

268 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:03:47pm

Hola Miguel.

All is well?

Glad to see you back.

269 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:03:48pm

re: #230 Noam Sayin'

You are too cute for words.

But think about it. If we had a big forest around us, we could run through it naked... together.

Maybe we can get the prince to put it back on the market. Plenty of trees.

270 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:04:19pm

re: #238 hermeneutics

Okay, I'm slow. I don't get it. What is CTHULHU? Why evil?

How about one I saw the other day:

Republicans for Voldermort

271 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:04:34pm

Sharmuta, since I am the elder stateswomen here I dinged you. Been here longer so it is my right!

272 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:04:35pm

re: #267 realwest

night--hope you're better in am-prayers, as always

273 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:04:51pm

re: #245 freetoken

Well you have been well brain washed by the Darwin establishment talking points. He had more 4 times the number of publications as his other peers who got tenure. Grants were not part of the tenure criteria. The DI got a hold of departmental e-mails that showed he was clearly fired for his support of ID. But when your defending Darwinims, ISU determined lying was ok.

That does it I'm sending Gonzoles some money to support his research. I like his hypothesis on habitable sites are located in places in the universe that facilitate discovery. How much should I send, 250, 500, 1000?

274 LeePro  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:05:08pm

re: #103 realwest

Starting points...
Hot Air
The Hill
iSteve Blog
...and more.

275 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:05:10pm

re: #262 Typicalwhitey

Hey Miguel!
So glad to see you online!

THANKs! i'm lucky with so many friends! :) :)

276 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:05:12pm

re: #236 mikeymom

mandy and all--george is not for real--too over the top--dont fall for it-

He has some of the gamiest buttocks I've smelled in a while.

277 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:05:24pm

re: #263 mikeymom

It was totally random!
He had no idea what I or anyone else was going to ask, which is why I think the obambi will not do it.

I stood up as soon as he said he would take questions and like a dummy I continued standing while the first guy was talking.
I was so nervous to be honest.

He is thinner than he looks on tv, he is very intense and serious and was quite funny at times.
VERY PRESIDENTIAL!
One of the best things I have ever done.
I got to hug a true American Hero!

278 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:05:28pm

re: #260 calcajun

Nah...it's just that earlier this week I had a knack for posting decidely off-topic comments and/or links (video of a Chilean woman pole-dancing in her bra & panties on Santiago's Metro and idle speculation on how exactly The House That Ruth Built The House That Luccino and Epstein Wrecked would be brought down this off-season) moments before an open thread would come up.

279 pat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:05:53pm

re: #240 George Slivers

Actually there is quite a large Jewish community living in Iran.

Untrue. It is minuscule and getting smaller every year. The racism and bigotry of the Mad Mullahs has resulted in the death of tens of thousands of acknowledged Christians and Jews.

280 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:06:16pm

re: #268 Syrah

Hola Miguel.

All is well?

Glad to see you back.

I'm fine, thanks!
All is well in general, yes :)

281 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:06:20pm

re: #251 Syrah

Epidemiology

282 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:06:36pm

re: #276 MandyManners

i'm thinking moby or sock--i have some great homemade bbq sauce in any case!

283 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:07:10pm

re: #273 George Slivers

Oh c'mon. The man has a family to support. Give him $10,000.

284 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:07:24pm

re: #277 Typicalwhitey

I think that is why Obama won't join him in these town halls. Without a script, without a teleprompter, Obama would make Dan Quayle look eloquent.

285 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:07:32pm

re: #277 Typicalwhitey

again, GREAT JOB! i am soo jealous!

286 songbird  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:07:43pm

re: #273 George Slivers

Well you have been well brain washed by the Darwin establishment talking points. He had more 4 times the number of publications as his other peers who got tenure. Grants were not part of the tenure criteria. The DI got a hold of departmental e-mails that showed he was clearly fired for his support of ID. But when your defending Darwinims, ISU determined lying was ok.

That does it I'm sending Gonzoles some money to support his research. I like his hypothesis on habitable sites are located in places in the universe that facilitate discovery. How much should I send, 250, 500, 1000?

It's your money. Why don't you help the deserving poor and needy locally?

287 BigJohn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:07:57pm

re: #173 Typicalwhitey

Click on McCain answers questions
The second questioner is me.

If you double click the video, it jumps to a large screen on my display.

288 Optimizer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:07:58pm

re: #83 Racer X

Boy, this guy just does not get it. Bush merely lifts the ban and oil drops $9.

Actually, what I'm struck by is something non-Lefties simply don't get, regarding the whole energy situation. What you need to recognize is that - unlike the vast majority of the population - the Left does not consider incredibly high oil prices to be a bad thing!

Normal people - even hard-core Dems with Left-leaning ideas - consider it so obvious that the problem is the high price, that they don't consider the fact that not everybody thinks that way. Even the Left's supporters don't realize just how screwed up the Left is.

Remember how a socialist thinks:
1) It's totally immoral that the US uses a disproportionate amount of oil. (High oil prices work toward "fixing" that, and using our own oil would make "solving the problem" that much harder).
2) Capitalist corporations are the enemy. The largest corporations (oil companies) making more money (via the drilling) helps their worst enemy.
3) Our industry uses oil to produce vast wealth. But the socialist believes this is bad, since the rest of the world is not as wealthy as we are. More oil for us means more so-called "inequality".
4) The transportation industry must be nationalized. In other words, they want as many people as possible riding the bus. That way, people are dependent on them for their very livelihood (getting to work) and sustenance (getting to the grocery store). A people with individually-owned cars who can drive wherever they want are a free people, and that doesn't help socialism.

If you really listen to what they say, the leading Democrats - including Obama - have no interest at all in the price of oil coming down, or in people being able to afford having and fueling personal vehicles. They only talk about "conservation". If the public ever figures out that this means "tough shit - it's about time you slobs started riding the bus" the Dems would be out of business in a heartbeat. Why haven't the Republicans made use of this!?!

So, to summarize, Al Gore "gets it" just fine - it's the public (and even most LGF-ers, I think) who don't "get" him!

289 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:08:08pm

re: #239 zombie

What's happening is that a lot of otherwise perspicacious people such as yourself are taking these slanted polls seriously.

I'm a poll addict, Zombie. I need therapy.

Seriously, I agree that pollsters oversample Democrats at this point in the election cycle but its fun to re-jigger the numbers to a more correct partisan balance. Not all states publish their R-D-I breakdown, but many do. If I can get the info that undergirds the polls, particularly the partisan breakdown, and compare it to the state registration numbers, then I can estimate a real MOE.

Thinking of it, here, as a serious game. Still, fun.

290 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:08:11pm

re: #264 Racer X

Thank you!
It is one a.m. here and I am still thrilled!

291 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:08:32pm

Realwest, God bless you.... All this other stuff is incidental. Remember, there is no past... it is gone... there is no future.... it's not happened yet.... there is only the present.I know that is how you are living your life.God bless and keep you

292 Steffan  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:08:37pm

re: #238 hermeneutics

Okay, I'm slow. I don't get it. What is CTHULHU? Why evil?

It's a story by H.P. Lovecraft: The Call of Cthulhu.

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.

It gets better. Go read the whole thing... late at night... with all the lights off.

293 Optimizer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:10:03pm

re: #143 Typicalwhitey

IT IS ME!

Oh, now that's too cool!

294 tradewind  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:10:07pm

This just keeps getting worse....
What were they thinking? They've opened the Palestinian Pandora's box of reasons to keep on kidnapping at every chance.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

295 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:10:17pm

re: #240 George Slivers


Oh dear lord....just....please...shut the fuck up already. I'm guessing there was a large Jewish community in Iran up until 1979. Then they all spontaneously decided to leave for some wholly unknown reason completely unrelated to some sort of Islamic revolution.....

296 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:10:55pm

re: #278 Fenway_Nation

Ah.

I suppose you'll be in the Bronx this winter when the old place comes down. Irrespective of your Red Sox leanings, you got to admit it's a little sad to see Yankee Stadium disappear.

297 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:11:11pm

re: #288 Optimizer

If you really listen to what they say, the leading Democrats - including Obama - have no interest at all in the price of oil coming down, or in people being able to afford having and fueling personal vehicles. They only talk about "conservation". If the public ever figures out that this means "tough shit - it's about time you slobs started riding the bus" the Dems would be out of business in a heartbeat. Why haven't the Republicans made use of this!?!


Excellent point.

McCain needs to jump on this one.

298 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:11:24pm

re: #293 Optimizer

Can you tell how thrilled I am?

299 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:12:09pm

hey TW--you should have whispered in his ear--"hey john, read LGF for some campaign advice!" !

300 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:12:29pm

re: #179 migueldowninmexico

LoL: greetings from the holy city of Rome!

Greetings right back atcha, Miguel!
Give the Pope a high five for me.

301 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:12:54pm

Did we run out of Purina Troll Chow™ ?

302 George Slivers  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:13:00pm

re: #295 Fenway_Nation

My vulgar friend,

If you follow the thread, I was trying to challenge the point that there are no churches or synagogue in islamic countries. I did not deny that they were not persecuted.

303 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:13:17pm

Typitical whitey, you get my plus because you got to ask a question of McCain . How was his answer?

304 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:14:07pm

re: #300 Alberta Oil Peon

Greetings right back atcha, Miguel!
Give the Pope a high five for me.

I will! lol ;)

305 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:15:34pm

MANDY--if you are still here--i thinks its time for your--GPUAR comment--just to keep us all awake--thx--

306 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:15:37pm

re: #303 nigella


You can see it here
Click on McCain answers questions.
I am the second questioner!

307 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:16:29pm

re: #299 mikeymom

I should have.
To be honest I was so nervous, my hands were shaking!

308 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:16:40pm

re: #305 mikeymom

I think the jackass has gone to bed but, just in case he hasn't:

GO PISS UP A ROPE!

309 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:25pm

Mandy, you are so subtle!

310 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:25pm

It's past my bed time.

Good night, Lizards!

311 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:43pm

re: #307 Typicalwhitey

i can believe it! i would have been peeing in my pants!

312 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:17:46pm

re: #309 nigella

Mandy, you are so subtle!

I try.

313 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:18:18pm

re: #308 MandyManners

thank you sunshine-- i can sleep well tonight!

314 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:18:24pm

re: #281 George Slivers

Epidemiology

Well. You have managed to hit close to home.

Are you of the opinion that "natural selection" should not be referenced or considered in epidemiological studies?

315 nigella  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:19:19pm

And you definitely succeed. sarc/off

316 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:19:43pm

re: #306 Typicalwhitey

I like his remarks at the end - "I'm the underdog. They've counted me as dead several times but I've come back".

He has my vote.

317 dmjboose  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:20:11pm

re: #153 George Slivers

Good papers don't need rely on the "Darwon of the Gaps" cliche to explain their data

I don't even know what this cliche is. Please explain.

318 freetoken  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:20:38pm

re: #273 George Slivers

You couldn't even get his University affiliation correct and you expect us to believe the rest of what you say?

Gonzales' research output had been declining since he left his post-doc position. Furthermore, it was he who submitted his own ("ID" relevant) book for evidence as fitness for tenure, otherwise it would not have even been a subject. Finally about the funding, you are incorrect. When a professor gets tenured they have essentially a lifetime job, and before that is granted the department authorities have to believe the eligible professor will carry his weight in the department, and that means respect among his peers across the field. Anyone who can't get funding sources to believe in their proposals will not be able to hold up their responsibilities in a position like Dr. Gonzales desired.

Furthermore, you've shown in this blog entry more than enough evidence of being a troll of the worst kind - ignorant. If you actually knew this stuff you could at least troll with skill.

Your claims about DI getting emails is without merit - the intra-department and inter-department proceedings have already been discussed, as in the DSM Register piece. Dr. Gonzales has recourse at ISU, but it will not go anywhere because everything really is out in the light of day.

319 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:21:54pm

OT--on a personal note--my oldest son is getting married TWO WEEKS from tomorrow--fri-aug 1 st-- we are soo excited--things are getting more hectic every day! lots of out of towners coming to colorado for the first time!

320 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:37pm

re: #232 George Slivers

There is no point in the pretense of civil discourse when you opponents seek to destroy your livelihood for even questioning Darwin Dogma. Take Dr. Gonzales at U of I as an example. Brilliant scientist fired for being supportive of ID

Actually, Gonzales was denied tenure because his output of authored papers had dropped off to nearly nothing. As a brilliant scientist yourself, I'm certain that you understand the meaning of "publish or perish."

/

321 Inquisitive  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:43pm

re: #257 DesertSage

Rasmussen also has the race tied in the national poll.Gallup has Obama up by two nationally.

Obama is actually doing worse then Kerry was at this time in '04.


Gee, I just found out from the national poll site that I live in the state that has the least poplar Gov.--Yep that's IL for you.

322 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:22:51pm

re: #316 Racer X

He had tears in his eyes when he hugged us.
He said he would never forget my nephews sacrifice.

He has my vote, my time and my money.
My sister and I signed up today to volunteer for him.

323 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:23:39pm

Well good night all!
I am going to try to get some sleep.

324 Racer X  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:24:10pm

re: #323 Typicalwhitey

Nite TW -- thanks for sharing!

325 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:24:35pm

re: #323 Typicalwhitey

Good night.

Good work on the McCain event.

326 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:24:46pm

re: #317 dmjboose

I don't even know what this cliche is. Please explain.

I believe his is a play on words.

A few Christians used to claim that faith was wrongly used to fill in the gaps left by science, and as the number of gaps shrunk, the scope of faith similarly shrunk. My hunch is that his phrase refers to the opposite -- that science is used to fill the gaps faith can't explain.

But I'm not sure.

327 BigJohn  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:24:50pm

re: #319 mikeymom

OT--on a personal note--my oldest son is getting married TWO WEEKS from tomorrow--fri-aug 1 st-- we are soo excited--things are getting more hectic every day! lots of out of towners coming to colorado for the first time!

Congrats, you won't hardly be busy will you?

328 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:25:28pm

Goodnight everyone, my cat is trying to eat my MBP (a sure sign of "Please go to bed and sleep dammit!")

329 slokat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:29pm

Drive by post -

I've been reading down through the last couple of threads, and doing other tasks in other tabs, somewhere along the line my brain started substituting ID with "Interior Design".

Never knew that I could laugh in one of those threads...

Unfortunately, that doesn't mean Interior Design should be taught as science, because it's not.

...I'm probably just overtired, Good Night!

330 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:26:33pm

re: #327 BigJohn

lol--but its a good busy!

331 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:28:09pm

re: #296 calcajun

Irrespective of your Red Sox leanings, you got to admit it's a little sad to see Yankee Stadium disappear.

I'm over it. No Yaz, no Pudge, no Doerr in the pregame ceremony or parade leading up to the All-Star game? Yankees fans spitting and swearing at Papelbon and his wife? The near riot, comeplete with the NYPD taking the field in riot gear- that broke out after A-Rod's infamous glove-slap in the 2004 ALCS? The fact that the toilet Yankee stadium was included in 1000 Places to See Before You Die but Wrigley and Fenway were completely blown off? Ignorant, bandwagon-hopping Yankees fans going on and on about their 26 rings and treating the 2004 ALCS as well as the 2004 and 2007 World Series like it was old news? What's there to miss? I've shown that structure in the Bronx more reverence than most Yankee fans have shown Fenway Park

The NY tabloids can print as many 'Papelbum' or 'JD Spew' covers as they want but until they hold some sort of ceremony honoring THE GREATEST COMEBACK IN ALL OF BASEBALL, Yankee stadium hasn't been fully and properly honored.

332 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:28:12pm

re: #321 Inquisitive

Gee, I just found out from the national poll site that I live in the state that has the least poplar Gov.--Yep that's IL for you.

Illinois has trended blue for a long, long time. Even Dupage County. Is is true that Roskam may lose his seat?

333 mikeymom  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:29:04pm

godd night from hot, dry colorado--God bless you all and allof our troops!

334 latitude51  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:29:38pm

re: #249 George Slivers

re: #273 George Slivers

If you're so clever, why do you use your instead of you're?

I'm just curious.

335 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:29:58pm

re: #333 mikeymom

godd night from hot, dry colorado--God bless you all and allof our troops!

G'night mom!

336 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:31:14pm

re: #288 Optimizer

That was good stuff, Opt. I've copied and pasted your four points on my desktop. Need to think about it more.

337 Optimizer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:32:21pm

re: #223 Typicalwhitey

Thank you!
I have been so excited all day.

After it was over he came over and gave my sister and I a hug and said he would not forget my nephew!

"It's good to be the Presidential Candidate!"... :)

Hey, cool... I used to live right outside St Louis, back in the 5th or 6th Century...

338 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:33:24pm

re: #337 Optimizer

I used to live right outside St Louis, back in the 5th or 6th Century...

Before the Islamic conquest?

339 Alberta Oil Peon  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:36:13pm

re: #334 latitude51

re: #273 George Slivers

If you're so clever, why do you use your instead of you're?

I'm just curious.

Howdy, lat. Long time no see.

Did you get a big thunderstorm in your neck of the woods like I got here? Computer shut down twice from power hiccups.

340 wtc394  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:37:10pm
Typitical whitey, you get my plus because you got to ask a question of McCain . How was his answer


Actually I can do 1 better. A while ago, before he picked up SS protection. I was on patrol in 30th St. Station. I noticed 1 person up the platform so I went that way. There was McCain waiting for the Acela to DC. He shook my hand and we just BS'd for 10 minutes til the train came. Real nice, articulate and interesting. I don't think we even talked much election stuff. But, yea, I should have mentioned to him to check in here once in a while.

341 Optimizer  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:38:35pm

re: #232 George Slivers

There is no point in the pretense of civil discourse when you opponents seek to destroy your livelihood for even questioning Darwin Dogma. Take Dr. Gonzales at U of I as an example. Brilliant scientist fired for being supportive of ID

A scientist being fired for supporting ID? How unfair! Why ... that would be like a priest being fired for being an atheist, or a Congressman being fired for breaking the law! Er, wait a minute...

342 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:39:32pm

re: #339 Alberta Oil Peon

Howdy, lat. Long time no see.

Did you get a big thunderstorm in your neck of the woods like I got here? Computer shut down twice from power hiccups.

There was a huge storm yesterday, down here, followed by a 13-hour brown out , the second longest I REmember.

/I blame Gore! ;)

Hello to both Canadians :)

343 LeePro  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:20pm

re: #302 George Slivers

My vulgar friend,

If you follow the thread, I was trying to challenge the point that there are no churches or synagogue in islamic countries. I did not deny that they were not persecuted.

Translation: "did deny" that they "were persecuted"

Who needs grammar, when you "publish" (secretly), and only post here 36 times in a whole year?

344 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:40:59pm

re: #281 George Slivers

Epidemiology

I see that you are still logged in George.

Are you of the opinion that "natural selection" should not be referenced or considered in epidemiological studies?

345 bh684  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:42:27pm

I made it safe and sound, you know who you are

346 calcajun  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:42:44pm

re: #331 Fenway_Nation

I was thinking about pre-80's Yankee. Guidry, Jackson..and earlier. I have no great love for 'em. But the tradition is to be honored and some memories are to be cherished.

Fenway and Wrigley will be all that's left of the great old yards--and their end will come, too. It's the passing of the epoch that's bittersweet.

347 latitude51  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:43:29pm

re: #339 Alberta Oil Peon

Hey there, no thunder here tonight. I still have some welts on the back of my arms from hail the other day. It almost felt like getting paint balled.

348 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:45:46pm

re: #345 bh684

I made it safe and sound, you know who you are

I'm glad my love!

/runs and hides...

349 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:47:15pm

re: #348 migueldowninmexico

I'm glad my love!

/runs and hides...

Don't you love cryptic messages? Hmmmm. I wanted to respond but thought he/she wanted privacy. Curious, though.

And I'm glad you are safe and sound, BH!

350 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:48:18pm

Does anyone know of some good political polling blogs?

351 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:50:54pm

re: #349 hermeneutics

Don't you love cryptic messages? Hmmmm. I wanted to respond but thought he/she wanted privacy. Curious, though.

And I'm glad you are safe and sound, BH!

That was obviously addressed to a loved one. couln't resist the temptation to answer ROFL!

DON't scold me, I'm just a Third-wORLDER ;)

352 pat  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:51:24pm

re: #350 hermeneutics

Does anyone know of some good political polling blogs?

Real politics

353 neocon hippie  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:51:32pm

I actually saw a McCain sign in these parts, outside of a house in Albany, CA, which is a small city just north of Berkeley's west side. No signs of vandalism. Otherwise it's all Obama, all the time.

354 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:51:55pm

re: #350 hermeneutics

Does anyone know of some good political polling blogs?

Real Clear Politics is abou the best that I know of.

The punters can be very interesting too.

355 migueldowninmexico  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:52:54pm

ALOHA pat !

/pineapple tacos ;)

356 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:53:20pm

re: #354 Syrah

Real Clear Politics is abou the best that I know of.

The punters can be very interesting too.

Do you bet?

357 Archimedes  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:54:00pm

Did Dan Quayle really say that? I have my doubts.

358 wtc394  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:56:33pm
Did Dan Quayle really say that? I have my doubts.


debunked early on in the thread...also mentioned was his potato'e' misstep although no mention of the set up by someone from the NEA which caused that infamous gaffe.

359 JustMyView  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:57:33pm

re: #350 hermeneutics

Does anyone know of some good political polling blogs?

FiveThirtyEight

360 leereyno  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:57:34pm

I went to school with Dan Quayle's nephew when Bush Sr. was president. According to the nephew, Dan Quayle isn't stupid, just kind of absent minded.

But now that I've heard this quote I do have to wonder. Maybe he was trying to be funny?

361 Syrah  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:58:45pm

Well it looks like George Silvers has logged out.

I was hoping that I could get him to explain his rather startling comments on this thread.

Oh Well.

Maybe there was no there there.

362 latitude51  Thu, Jul 17, 2008 11:59:51pm

re: #342 migueldowninmexico

Hey Miggy. It's been a long time. Life is keeping me away from the computer lately, so I only get to skim the postings here once or twice a week. I hope you are well.

363 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:03:13am

re: #359 JustMyView

FiveThirtyEight

This looks interesting -- thank you!

364 Syrah  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:04:22am

re: #356 hermeneutics

Do you bet?

No.

Something far worse.

I work for a small polling / market research company.

That was why I asked you about that poll that you participated in that called you on your cell phone. Cell phones are rocking the industry. I would like to see how the big companies like Gallup and Rasmussen are addressing the cellphone problem in their data collection and analysis.

Cell phones present a whole array of interesting problems.

365 JustMyView  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:04:26am

re: #350 hermeneutics

Does anyone know of some good political polling blogs?

See also pollster.com.

366 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:07:45am

re: #362 latitude51

Hey Miggy. It's been a long time. Life is keeping me away from the computer lately, so I only get to skim the postings here once or twice a week. I hope you are well.

everythink ok, thanks!
greetings to lat 51 from lat 19!
/like in the good ol' times ;)

367 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:09:32am

Got a funky hiccup from the internets. Could not connect to roughly 90% of the sites I tried, including this one, for about 40 mins. or so. Anyone else in CA notice this?

368 neocon hippie  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:10:32am

re: #367 Slumbering Behemoth

No problems here in Berserkeley.

369 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:11:31am

re: #364 Syrah

No.

Something far worse.

I work for a small polling / market research company.

That was why I asked you about that poll that you participated in that called you on your cell phone. Cell phones are rocking the industry. I would like to see how the big companies like Gallup and Rasmussen are addressing the cellphone problem in their data collection and analysis.

Cell phones present a whole array of interesting problems.

Very cool, Syrah. I'm honored to know you ... and pick your brain.

There are oodles of us -- perhaps about five percent, maybe more -- who don't have land lines. For email and the Internet I have satellite wifi that goes with me everywhere in the universe; for a telephone I exclusively use cell-phones.

I'm not alone. I travel constantly for about five months a year, then settle down for seven months. During my happy five months, I interview and talk to many, many people. Sometimes I'll go to those big parkinglot-like RV places and talk to retirees. The idea that older people are not technologically savvy is a myth -- these guys have expensive, very capable set-ups in their RVs. Like me, many are completely wireless with wifi, phone and tv coming from a satellite.

Just thought you'd want to know.

370 songbird  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:14:21am

Darn. Up Dinged Slivers on 222 when I only wanted to see who dinged him.........it's past bedtime

371 latitude51  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:14:23am

re: #367 Slumbering Behemoth

Got a funky hiccup from the internets. Could not connect to roughly 90% of the sites I tried, including this one, for about 40 mins. or so. Anyone else in CA notice this?

Don't you worry. When Obama is POTUS all such problems will disappear.

372 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:14:41am

re: #368 neocon hippie

Must have been something local then. Thanks.

373 latitude51  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:17:47am

re: #366 migueldowninmexico

I'm planning a trip down to lat 19, and around there. Probably after Christmas.

374 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:18:36am

re: #371 latitude51

Don't you worry. When Obama is POTUS all such problems will disappear.

Yeah, connecting to the interwebs won't be an issue when I can no longer afford the service.

G'nite Lizards.

375 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:18:50am

re: #173 Typicalwhitey

Click on McCain answers questions
The second questioner is me.

Cougar sighting......

/WOOT!

376 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:19:51am

re: #373 latitude51

I'm planning a trip down to lat 19, and around there. Probably after Christmas.

you¡ll be welcome here! :)

377 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:20:24am

re: #367 Slumbering Behemoth

Got a funky hiccup from the internets. Could not connect to roughly 90% of the sites I tried, including this one, for about 40 mins. or so. Anyone else in CA notice this?

if'n you're ATT, their so cal server died for a bit.... but then again, i've been having problems with them since april.

/looking into other options.

378 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:22:30am

re: #361 Syrah

Well it looks like George Silvers has logged out.

I was hoping that I could get him to explain his rather startling comments on this thread.

Oh Well.

Maybe there was no there there.

that's a safe bet.... %-)

379 Optimizer  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:22:45am

re: #338 hermeneutics

Before the Islamic conquest?

Well, let's just say that I hadn't learned much of anything about Islam yet.

Well, OK I'll say more. It was back before GPS was a household word, and my co-workers had to wait until certain times of the day to test our GPS-using stuff because there were only just so many satellites up there to use at that time. Perhaps the most significant thing I ever did was to do some of the first engineering work to put GPS on the Tomahawk. It was exciting those few days of the Iraq War when it sounded like we may have successfully used those things to nail Saddam, himself. It was a real bummer how that didn't quite work out.

Oh, and I was late getting back to work after lunch once because it was next to the airport, and a guy named "President Reagan" had some sort of political stop in town - so they closed down the roads for about an hour.

Anyway, I guess our Celebrity of the Day was in KC, not St Louis (which also has a Union Station, and is in MO). I only got out there a couple of times.

380 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:26:46am

re: #316 Racer X

I like his remarks at the end - "I'm the underdog. They've counted me as dead several times but I've come back".

He has my vote.

he has mine simply because the other option is worse by several orders of magnitude. i do not doubt he is a man of honor & convictions, i just don't agree with some of those convictions.

381 MrArchieBunker  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:27:05am

Miguel, I hope all is well, I heard you had a health scare.

382 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:28:26am

re: #376 migueldowninmexico

you¡ll be welcome here! :)

sounds like a Corona commercial ......

/glad you're doing okay. how're the preventative lifestyle changes going?

383 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:28:31am

re: #381 MrArchieBunker

Miguel, I hope all is well, I heard you had a health scare.

I did. but, thank GOD; I'm better now. THAnks! :)

384 MrArchieBunker  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:29:55am

Re: the previous thread about the Muslim exhibit at the Louvre: its important to remember that Sarkozy's guest Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud is the same stooge that Rudy Guiliani said was smirking as he toured ground zero. Guiliani told him to take his check and stuff it.

385 Syrah  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:30:47am

re: #369 hermeneutics

That is interesting to know.

We are finding that it is the young people, those who are under thirty, and the more so the younger they get, who tend away from having landlines.

The mobile retirees are an interesting issue. We will have to take a look at that.

We are finding landlines to be less and less productive over time. Cellphones are very unproductive at present, but they are improving.

Cellphones are a bit of a bear. It is much more difficult to manage the sample. Not only are there legal problems, but cellphone users have a much more proprietary attitude about their cellphones.

We know that we will hit a tipping point where landlines will rather abruptly become pretty useless. We think we are seeing some early signs of that now but it is too hard to tell definitively without more data.

Cellphones are the future, whether we like it or not.

386 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:31:01am

re: #383 migueldowninmexico
You must be better, posting all the way from Rome. What are you doing up in Georgia anyway, shopping for onions?

387 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:31:55am

re: #382 redc1c4

sounds like a Corona commercial ......

/glad you're doing okay. how're the preventative lifestyle changes going?

I hate it! Health food, health living and all.
Still, I'm doing it LOL ;)

388 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:32:06am

re: #377 redc1c4

if'n you're ATT, their so cal server died for a bit.... but then again, i've been having problems with them since april.

/looking into other options.

Nope, SBC. The worst part? I lost connection to LGF when I hit the "post this comment" button. I had just finished the BEST POST EVAR, so full of wisdom, intelligence, and eloquence that it was going to completely PWN everyone, and stand as the highest rated comment on LGF for many years to come. Oh, and my grammar and spelling were perfect too. And it would have cured gout. And brought sexy back, for real this time.

Just wish I could remember what it was I almost to posted.
/

G'nite again, Lizards.

389 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:32:32am

re: #386 Panhandler

You must be better, posting all the way from Rome. What are you doing up in Georgia anyway, shopping for onions?

that was a joke LOL

390 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:32:58am

re: #379 Optimizer

What an interesting life ... so far! I admire those who understand military technology. My father was a physicist, part of the wave of communication specialists that dealt with satellites. It seems so "space age" when I was growing up (I'm in my 40s.)

But now, people like you are guiding missles! Aerospace technology has not gone stale.

Frankly, I find it mind boggling that one missle can hit another missle. Seems impossible, really.

391 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:34:44am

re: #383 migueldowninmexico

I did. but, thank GOD; I'm better now. THAnks! :)


Had to pop back in and say:

Glad to hear it, Miguel, really glad to hear it. Take care of yourself, Lizard.

G'nite for real this time, my eyes is gettin' blurry.

392 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:34:57am

re: #389 migueldowninmexico

So was the second sentence of my post. Glad to see you "up and about" but I need to hear more about the ex-girlfriend/present medical providor. How did you work that?

393 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:35:35am

re: #385 Syrah

I suppose the fact that we keep our cellphone numbers even when we change location only makes your job more difficult. My area code will forever be the same, even though I've sold the house where I bought that original phone contract.

So you can't tell where people live by their area codes ... is that troubling?

394 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:35:38am

re: #389 migueldowninmexico

that was a joke LOL

georgia means Atlanta, Atlanta means Coca-Cola.
tat's all I know LOL!

/cokehead...

395 latitude51  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:36:39am

re: #376 migueldowninmexico

I'll have to take you up on that Mig. Stay well my friend. I'm hitting the hay now. Goodnight.

396 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:37:02am

re: #394 migueldowninmexico

Google Vidalia Onions -= all will be revealed.

397 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:37:29am

re: #392 Panhandler

So was the second sentence of my post. Glad to see you "up and about" but I need to hear more about the ex-girlfriend/present medical providor. How did you work that?

she's a darling. I always treated her right, so she likes me :)

398 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:37:49am

re: #394 migueldowninmexico

Miguel, if you travel northward toward the Phoenix area, let me know.

399 Syrah  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:39:32am

re: #393 hermeneutics

I suppose the fact that we keep our cellphone numbers even when we change location only makes your job more difficult. My area code will forever be the same, even though I've sold the house where I bought that original phone contract.

So you can't tell where people live by their area codes ... is that troubling?

Very.

We now have to rely on self reporting. It used to be so handy to be able to rely on area codes.

The only constant is change, so adapt we must, if we can.

400 MrArchieBunker  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:40:28am

I have to say I enjoy the ID threads. It wasn't an issue on my radar screen, but I enjoy the debate and the way Charles smokes out dishonest weasels....

401 Slumbering Behemoth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:41:02am

re: #377 redc1c4

if'n you're ATT, their so cal server died for a bit.... but then again, i've been having problems with them since april.

/looking into other options.

D'oh! SBC is AT&T. So much for that BEST COMMENT EVAR.

I need to gets mah sleeps.

402 Sprite  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:41:31am

Miggo!

My many prayers for you have been answered, I hope.

So happy to see you!

Sprite

403 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:44:52am

re: #399 Syrah

I have to admit that I lied when I was called. Terribly. And I'd probably lie again. I don't know why I lied to the pollster except that I felt the call was invasive and manipulative, that the pollster was trying to influence me and suck information out of me.

I doubt I'm alone.

If you asked me, in a cell phone interview, where I was from, I'd probably lie.

Sorry, but true.

404 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:45:01am

re: #398 hermeneutics

Miguel, if you travel northward toward the Phoenix area, let me know.

I will!, thanks :)re: #402 Sprite

Miggo!

My many prayers for you have been answered, I hope.

So happy to see you!

Sprite

GOd bless you, SPritey! i seem to be better, thanks :) good to see you too!

405 Syrah  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:45:30am

Its late.

I have to get up early.

Goodnight all.

Please be nice to the pollsters when they call you. Tell them what ever you want but please remember that they are probably just some poor Jane or Joe working a minimum wage job to feed and house their family.

406 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:47:01am

re: #405 Syrah

Its late.

I have to get up early.

Goodnight all.

Please be nice to the pollsters when they call you. Tell them what ever you want but please remember that they are probably just some poor Jane or Joe working a minimum wage job to feed and house their family.

I feel guilty.

Good night Syrah.
Good night, all.

407 Da_Beerfreak  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:47:37am

re: #147 Steffan

More like Moon Crystal Power, MAKE UP!
/heh


// {;-)™

408 Sprite  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:48:46am

re: #404 migueldowninmexico

Thank you, God.

I am SOOOOO happy to hear.. You get your rest and take even better care now, Miggo.

A sigh of thanksgiving!

G'night, miguel, and All.

409 Syrah  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:52:28am

re: #403 hermeneutics

I have to admit that I lied when I was called. Terribly. And I'd probably lie again. I don't know why I lied to the pollster except that I felt the call was invasive and manipulative, that the pollster was trying to influence me and suck information out of me.

I doubt I'm alone.

If you asked me, in a cell phone interview, where I was from, I'd probably lie.

Sorry, but true.

There are "push polls" out there to be wary of. The closer we get to the election, the more they will crop up.

lying is OK. It all works out in the wash. Don't feel bad about the lying. lying is the least of our worries.

Interesting that you would lie about your location though. That is one of our major worries.

Good night.

I've got hit the hay.

410 Karridine  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:58:55am

re: #409 Syrah

You're probably gone, but I see this (MIS-representing one's TRUE feelings to anonymous, intrusive pollsters) as a VERY WIDESPREAD phenomenon.

Because of this, I see the only actual dressed person, McCain, being elected in November.

Millions will SAY Obama, but when push comes to nitty-gritty, they'll vote to DEFEND America, rather than surrender!

/no big McCain fan

411 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:59:38am

gotta crash for a while
BBL. :)

412 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:01:33am

re: #381 MrArchieBunker

Miguel, I hope all is well, I heard you had a health scare.

he ate the worm AND drank the water...... %-)

413 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:01:33am

{Sprite}GOd bless you! :)

414 Sprite  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:01:36am

Sleep well, miguel.....

415 Karridine  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:02:16am

re: #413 migueldowninmexico

Sleep well, Miguelito! I missed you, Amigo!

416 therewaslight  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:03:37am

Dhimmism alive and kicking in Britain


A panel of Islamic scholars to give advice on modern living is to be introduced as part of a Government scheme to counter extremism.


This is crazy. Islam is extremism.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

The board is bound to be controversial among young Muslims partly because of its state backing but also because only certain scholars are qualified to give Islamic rulings or "fatwas" which normally emanate from Saudi Arabia.

While imams regularly give advice about what is "halal" [permitted] or "haram" [forbidden] their authority is secondary to the sheikhs of the Middle East.

The board is designed to discourage rulings which allow the beating of wives, or compel women to cover their faces.

They would also help young people with issues such as when they can mix with the opposite sex and whether it is permissible to serve in the armed forces.

In other words the government is funding a fifth column. The government are our traitors.

PS: what happened to the box where you can directly message Charles from the front page?

417 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:04:26am

re: #413 migueldowninmexico

{Sprite}GOd bless you! :)

If you visit American city, you will find it very pretty, but there's two things you must beware: don't drink the water and don't breathe the air!

Tom LEHRER ;)

418 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:04:54am

re: #385 Syrah

That is interesting to know.

We are finding that it is the young people, those who are under thirty, and the more so the younger they get, who tend away from having landlines.

The mobile retirees are an interesting issue. We will have to take a look at that.

We are finding landlines to be less and less productive over time. Cellphones are very unproductive at present, but they are improving.

Cellphones are a bit of a bear. It is much more difficult to manage the sample. Not only are there legal problems, but cellphone users have a much more proprietary attitude about their cellphones.

We know that we will hit a tipping point where landlines will rather abruptly become pretty useless. We think we are seeing some early signs of that now but it is too hard to tell definitively without more data.

Cellphones are the future, whether we like it or not.

another issue is that cell phones, unlike land lines, don't give you any idea where the person is located....... my niece lives here in Lost Angels, but according to her cell, she's in GA. my cell tells you i'm in Central LA, but i'm a Valley dude.... even billing addys don't help, especially since the telcos are trying to wean customers off of paper, for all the obvious reasons.

more issues to address?

419 migueldowninmexico  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:06:09am

re: #415 Karridine

Sleep well, Miguelito! I missed you, Amigo!


Thanks a lot, Karridine my friend! :)

420 Karridine  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:07:01am

Upding,
Green Heart!

Go to sleep, Kiddo!

421 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:07:40am

re: #388 Slumbering Behemoth

Nope, SBC. The worst part? I lost connection to LGF when I hit the "post this comment" button. I had just finished the BEST POST EVAR, so full of wisdom, intelligence, and eloquence that it was going to completely PWN everyone, and stand as the highest rated comment on LGF for many years to come. Oh, and my grammar and spelling were perfect too. And it would have cured gout. And brought sexy back, for real this time.

Just wish I could remember what it was I almost to posted.
/

G'nite again, Lizards.

same ting happened to me, but by checking both our caches, i'd have to say my poast was better......

/i deleted yours %-)

422 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:11:03am

re: #403 hermeneutics

I have to admit that I lied when I was called. Terribly. And I'd probably lie again. I don't know why I lied to the pollster except that I felt the call was invasive and manipulative, that the pollster was trying to influence me and suck information out of me.

I doubt I'm alone.

If you asked me, in a cell phone interview, where I was from, I'd probably lie.

Sorry, but true.

i just tell them "Lost Angels"..............

/big place

423 Mel Lono  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:11:19am

re: #418 redc1c4

another issue is that cell phones, unlike land lines, don't give you any idea where the person is located.......

So that whole GPS thing in my cell phone is a load of crock? Thank you Lord.

424 Sprite  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:12:48am

re: #417 migueldowninmexico

Purrfect, Miggo. Ahahaha...... Sleep tight.

425 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:13:00am

re: #416 therewaslight

Upper left hand corner of front page or thread. hit the arrow marked "Contact"

426 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:14:42am

re: #417 migueldowninmexico

If you visit American city, you will find it very pretty, but there's two things you must beware: don't drink the water and don't breathe the air!

Tom LEHRER ;)

that's why we have lots of booze.

/especially @ my house. %-)

427 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:16:07am

re: #423 Mel Lono

So that whole GPS thing in my cell phone is a load of crock? Thank you Lord.

different issue: unless i'm wildly confused, the polling people don't access the GPS data.

/now i have to go read the -10 on my phone.....

428 Mel Lono  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:18:51am

re: #427 redc1c4

different issue: unless i'm wildly confused, the polling people don't access the GPS data.

/now i have to go read the -10 on my phone.....

Just a fly-by. Lil Sis works for Sprint as a broadband gobbler so I get the feed sometimes. Times up. nite

429 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:19:04am

hey Mel!

we're a definite maybe for caturday night.... i mentioned it to HRH, and she was ~~~~~~ about it, but she also stayed late, had more traffic because of that, and a headache, so we'll see.

430 Mel Lono  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:21:23am

re: #429 redc1c4

hey Mel!

we're a definite maybe for caturday night.... i mentioned it to HRH, and she was ~~~~~~ about it, but she also stayed late, had more traffic because of that, and a headache, so we'll see.

I'm on the early shift 4-9.

431 Ojoe  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:24:29am

re: #40 hermeneutics

Polls are not secret and the ballot is.

432 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:29:47am

re: #430 Mel Lono

I'm on the early shift 4-9.

then we can eat/party afterward.... the jazz is 18-2100 right?

433 freetoken  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:53:18am

Iran nuclear: Focus - Supreme Leader closes ranks with hardline President

Rome, 17 July (AKI) - (by Ahmad Rafat) - Little more than 24 hours ahead of talks on Iran's nuclear programme taking place on Saturday in Geneva, the country's Supreme Leader has declared his support for hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's anti-US stance.
[...]
Khamenei's move appears to have been prompted by US President George W. Bush's decision to send the second most senior State Department official, William Burns, to Geneva for the nuclear talks.
[...]
Khamenei 's reaction to the US move shows how ill-prepared the Iranian leadership is for direct negotiations with the US, some Iranian observers have noted.

The Iranian leadership fears the new US strategy of sending Wiliam Burns to Geneva and its plans to establish a diplomatic presence in Tehran," said an Iranian diplomat, speaking on condition of anonimity.

"It is afraid this could be a much more serious threat to Iran's survival than a possible airstrike against our military and nuclear installations," the unnamed diplomat added.
[...]
"Radical circles close to the Iranian leadership fear Washington's diplomatic opening could create the conditions for a bloodless revolution and revive the Iranian reformist movement," the diplomat concluded.

And speaking of that reformist movement:
Iran: Campaign calling for women's equality goes global

Rome, 17 July (AKI) - A year-long campaign by Iranian women calling for greater equality in Iran has gone international.
[...]
In the past 12 months, about 60 activists in the 'One Million Signatures Campaign' have been arrested, put on trial and sentenced to jail terms ranging from two to six months as well as public floggings.

In many of the cases, the sentences have been suspended.

Among the activists currently in prison are two Kurdish students, Ronak Saffarzadeh and Hana Abdi.

They have an information slideshow too:
[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

434 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:58:12am

re: #433 freetoken
Are we to assume that Obama's "no preconditions" will get short shrift also?

435 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:59:47am

Morning all. Maybe a drive by posting. How's everyone today?

/dang, did I just miss Miguel?

436 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

437 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:00:47am

{littleoldlady} I see I made it just in time. :)

/grabs a couple of cups.

438 Jarvisw  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:01:05am

Ok, who broke the net?

Seems several sites aren't loading.

439 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:01:07am

BlueCanuck! :-)

440 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:01:42am

re: #435 BlueCanuck

He was on about an hour or so ago. Said he was doing better, cracked a few jokes. Said he was going to get some sleep and may be back "later".

441 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:01:56am

re: #438 Jarvisw

Wasn't me, I just got here.

442 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:02:55am

re: #440 Panhandler

Yeah, looks like you folks have been having a slow night in here.

443 freetoken  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:03:35am

re: #436 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!


Don't mind if I do... you're watermelon is much better than mine! Tonight at the store I bought a watermelon - turned out to be very low quality. It is getting increasingly difficult to find good watermelon anymore. I remember when I was a kid - when watermelon could be had for 5 or 10 cents/lb... and it tasted great. Today alas everyone wants "seedless" and IMO the flavor just isn't there.

444 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:03:41am

re: #438 Jarvisw

Ok, who broke the net?

Seems several sites aren't loading.

AT&T..... it's karma for deleting all the alt.* newsgroups.

/hows that fruitcup taste?

445 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:03:59am

re: #442 BlueCanuck

red got lost in his own white smoke and disappeared.

446 freetoken  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:04:30am

re: #434 Panhandler

Are we to assume that Obama's "no preconditions" will get short shrift also?

Likely the mullahs aren't prepared for anything from the US except for the status quo. They aren't really big into "change" I hear....

447 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:05:19am

freetoken! :-)

It's getting harder to find quality produce of ANY kind.

/never saw such sick looking string beans in season in my life.

448 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:05:19am

re: #443 freetoken

Don't mind if I do... you're watermelon is much better than mine! Tonight at the store I bought a watermelon - turned out to be very low quality. It is getting increasingly difficult to find good watermelon anymore. I remember when I was a kid - when watermelon could be had for 5 or 10 cents/lb... and it tasted great. Today alas everyone wants "seedless" and IMO the flavor just isn't there.

when you breed for one trait, you do so at the expense of others....

it's an evolutionary facet of intelligent design. %-)

/white smoke

449 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:05:41am

re: #447 littleoldlady

freetoken! :-)

It's getting harder to find quality produce of ANY kind.

/never saw such sick looking string beans in season in my life.

/global warming

450 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:05:54am

re: #444 redc1c4

The committee having met in secret, with all members agreeing, has determined you don't get any fruit cup until you finish your dinner.

451 Egfrow  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:06:35am
The delusion into which the X. Y. Z. plot shewed it
possible to push the people; the successful experiment made under the
prevalence of that delusion on the clause of the constitution, which,
while it secured the freedom of the press, covered also the freedom
of religion, had given to the clergy a very favorite hope of
obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity thro'
the U. S.; and as every sect believes its own form the true one,
every one perhaps hoped for his own, but especially the Episcopalians
& Congregationalists. The returning good sense of our country
threatens abortion to their hopes, & they believe that any portion of
power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes.
And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god,
eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
But this is all they have to fear from me: & enough too in their
opinion, & this is the cause of their printing lying pamphlets
against me, forging conversations for me with Mazzei, Bishop Madison,
&c., which are absolute falsehoods without a circumstance of truth to
rest on;

T.J. SEP, 1800 VPOTUS.

452 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:06:58am

re: #445 Panhandler

red got lost in his own white smoke and disappeared.

red got tied up in ISP TARFU.....

/hell, this poast may not make it

453 JarvisW  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:07:59am

re: #444 redc1c4

AT&T..... it's karma for deleting all the alt.* newsgroups.

/hows that fruitcup taste?


Oh really? Hmm, hadn't heard about that.

454 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:08:02am

re: #447 littleoldlady
Problem of living in a small town I guess, local farmer's market here is filled to the gunnels with great veggies - and water melon.

455 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:08:21am

re: #449 redc1c4

/global warming

...or ethanol scam

456 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:10:05am

re: #450 Panhandler

The committee having met in secret, with all members agreeing, has determined you don't get any fruit cup until you finish your dinner.

/me replies by endorsement to committee

/smoke, white & otherwise

457 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:11:07am

re: #456 redc1c4

Now that is some serious acid reflux.

458 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:12:11am

re: #456 redc1c4

Just a little cranky this morning red?

/good response, though a little over the top

459 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:12:21am

re: #453 JarvisW

Oh really? Hmm, hadn't heard about that.

by request of the NY Atty Gen. seems they looked through tens of thousands of newsgroups, and found a few that had kiddie pron.

rather than go after the offenders, they blackmailed the ISP's into deleting *all* the hierarchies in question instead.

remember, usenet predates the internet by years, and now they're killing it off, for your own good.

460 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:13:01am

re: #454 Panhandler

Panhandler! :-)

I live in a small town, too.

/okay, a Philadelphia suburb, but still...

We have two farmers markets. I remember - I think it was last year - walking in with a $10 bill and walking out with a cart full of fruits and veggies. Now it takes $30 to get the same stuff. :-(

461 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:14:27am

re: #458 BlueCanuck

Just a little cranky this morning red?

/good response, though a little over the top

over the top?

1: that was tofu.

2: CEP was less than 50 meters. i call 'bullseye'.

/what's *this* morning got to do with it, anyway? %-)

462 JarvisW  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:16:05am

re: #459 redc1c4

by request of the NY Atty Gen. seems they looked through tens of thousands of newsgroups, and found a few that had kiddie pron.

rather than go after the offenders, they blackmailed the ISP's into deleting *all* the hierarchies in question instead.

remember, usenet predates the internet by years, and now they're killing it off, for your own good.

Yep, knew about the groups, rarely went, save on my friends 600baud modem in about 82 lol.

Guess I need to check slashdot more lol.

463 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:16:19am

re: #460 littleoldlady

Panhandler! :-)

I live in a small town, too.

/okay, a Philadelphia suburb, but still...

We have two farmers markets. I remember - I think it was last year - walking in with a $10 bill and walking out with a cart full of fruits and veggies. Now it takes $30 to get the same stuff. :-(

biofuels?

or that cold, weak lighted, growing season brought on by "global warming"? my 'maters are for shit this year, again, even with ground prep and crop rotation after last years fiasco.

464 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:19:06am

grumpy wants me to get up & get shit done whilst it's kewl in the am, so i can move into the house & do house stuff later in the day when it's unreasonable outside.... my idea is to FO most of the day, they do a few things in the afternoon: guess which plan was adopted?

so much for screwing off all day: L8r!

465 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:19:36am

re: #463 redc1c4

biofuels?

or that cold, weak lighted, growing season brought on by "global warming"? my 'maters are for shit this year, again, even with ground prep and crop rotation after last years fiasco.

Ever consider that you have a black thumb? I could make great soil, but my mom had to do the crops.

/great training for an infanteer. :)

466 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:20:15am

Later red, see you on Sunday morning.

467 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:21:07am

re: #464 redc1c4

Never try to countermand 6Actual.

468 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:21:41am

re: #463 redc1c4

I had to move anything I wanted to actually eat

/as opposed to feeding the deer/groundhog/rabbits...

to the deck. MAJOR wimpy veggies.

/feh.

'Night, red! :-)

469 freetoken  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:22:17am

re: #447 littleoldlady

Yes, yes... here in California it can be a bit weird at times... most produce used to be grown locally, and much still is, but the imported stuff has increased somewhat. Earlier this summer I found some Mexican watermelon... it was pretty good. Now we are getting the stuff from out in the desert - it just is picked too soon.

Locally the orange groves (the few that are left) have taken such a beating the past few years from the fires, that I've seen California oranges going for $2/lb !

These days I live in an apartment... sold the house several years ago. Used to love to garden quite a bit. It is hard for me to understand why people who own yards don't also garden - fresh fruit and veggies are very rewarding.

Speaking of the good ol days, I'll sign off with this video of some of the old timers.

470 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:23:56am
471 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:25:08am

re: #467 Panhandler

Never try to countermand 6Actual.

Household 6?
never.....
i just get the last word in: "yes dear....."

472 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:25:16am

re: #470 redc1c4

mmmmm, meatloaf.

/the loaf of the gods.

473 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:25:35am

re: #470 redc1c4

I thought you didn't like tofu.

474 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:25:36am

re: #469 freetoken

HA. The Jewish guys are SHORT! ;-)

475 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:27:37am

Well time to go people. See you all next time.

/at work so have to go do STUFF™

476 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:28:01am

re: #465 BlueCanuck

Ever consider that you have a black thumb? I could make great soil, but my mom had to do the crops.

/great training for an infanteer. :)

just hasn't been hot/sunny enough for maters, peppers, etc... the herbs and mint are doing well, because they're heat sensitive, but we went from having more 'maters than we could eat to not having had one to pick yet.

/not that i'm asking for weeks of 100+ temps either: that *really* sucks.
and we'd burn to the ground too.

477 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:30:43am

re: #473 Panhandler

I thought you didn't like tofu.

them folxs that made that couldn't even *spell* 'tofu' on a bet.

more snacks

478 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:31:23am

re: #475 BlueCanuck

Well time to go people. See you all next time.

/at work so have to go do STUFF™

sucks to be you.....

(as usual. %-)

479 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:32:38am

Blue's gone walkabout, and i'm getting hongry with all the food poasts, so i'm for the rack for real......

L8r! (take 2. %-)

480 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:33:48am

Bye, BlueCanuck! :-)

I'm going, too. FiOs was down and out most of the day, yesterday.

/makes it hard to work.
//LOTS of catching up to do

Good day, ALL!™

481 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:36:58am

Drat, plans got changed and I got a reprieve. Then everyone leaves.

482 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:37:04am

later lol & red, i also am going to call it a day/night.

483 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:39:56am

re: #481 BlueCanuck

All right if you insist - pick from the following topics:
1. The visigoths were merely a misunderstood punk rock group.
2. Moonlight will not turn your skin green if you wear mpf 40 or higher.
3. Al Gore is really Margret Mead's secret Samoan love child.

484 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:43:15am

re: #483 Panhandler

Ummm none of the above?

/okay if I have to pick I choose #1.

485 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:45:53am

re: #484 BlueCanuck

You got it, NONE OF THE ABOVE is correct. I gotta cut back on my medication.

486 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:47:29am

re: #485 Panhandler

Depends on the type of medication. You could be self medicating like red does. ;)

487 Xenobyte  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:47:32am

Didn't we have a LGF t-shirt available from here somewhere?

Still around? - Link anybody?

488 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:49:59am

re: #487 Xenobyte
Top left corner of main page or thread. Hit the contact arrow and send Charles an E Mail. i can't find the order form he used to have.

489 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:01:37am

re: #486 BlueCanuck
Oh no, this is prescription to help me get over the embarressment of over reacting in traffic and dumping my bike. right shoulder looks like it got hit by a round from a S&W500.

490 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:04:29am

re: #489 Panhandler

Ouch, I can sympathize with that. I remember getting used to clipless pedals, and stoping at a light and falling over.

/lucky for me it was late at night, and no traffic.

491 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:14:38am

re: #490 BlueCanuck

No clips, but didn't hurt my feet anyway. Can't get the picture to load - 2000 Triumph Sprint ST.

492 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:16:47am

re: #491 Panhandler

Sounds nice. Need to get a new bike myself. My city bike got stolen two years ago from my landlords garage. Haven't had the money to replace it. Found out in the spring when I went to haul it out for the summer commute season.

493 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:17:44am

re: #491 Panhandler

Found a different source. Not my bkie, same model.

494 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:19:31am

re: #493 Panhandler

LOL, seems I got a little confused. I am talking bicycles and you are talking motorbikes.

495 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:20:38am

re: #492 BlueCanuck
How close are you to Vancouver? Rocky mountain Moto tours says they'll be shutting down in late sep and selling off their stable. Triumphs, moto Guzzi and BMW.

496 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:21:27am

re: #495 Panhandler

Well that's a little far to travel. I live in Toronto.

/5000 klicks give or take.

497 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:25:51am

re: #496 BlueCanuck

Just an idea, I'll be looking to see if they'll cut me a deal on a 2008 Sprint with ABS ( coulda used that last month) 42 years of riding bikes and several accidents, none my fault and never anything more than a strawberry - Then I lock up the front brake and will have one shoulder shorter than the other until I get cremated.

498 steve  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:36:17am

No man ever became great or good except through many and great mistakes

William Gladstone

499 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:37:05am

Well time to go for now, I will probably be back in a few hours. Stay scally.

500 yochanan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:37:39am

re: #20 George Slivers

All this anti-intellectual nonsense on LGF these past few weeks motivated me to send the Discovery Institute $1000.00.

Keep it up!

A GRAND TOTAL OF 36 POSTS ANYONE WANT TO BET IF IT GETS 37?

501 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:38:42am

re: #498 steve

I keep reminding myself of that. The only drawback is that this mistake HURT.

502 steve  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:40:25am

Conceal a flat, and the world will think the worst.

Martial

503 steve  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:41:51am

the dogmas of the of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present.

Abraham Lincoln

504 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:42:03am

re: #500 yochanan

have you read the rest of the thread? This guy is right up there with "Miss 157 IQ" Don't remember how many time the BS flag got waved but he just kept digging in deeper. Best line was where he said he automatically rejected any paper/research which cited evolution (Darwinism).

505 steve  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:42:59am

502 should read "FAULT" not flat.

kinda works though.

506 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:43:12am

I wish I could write like Charles Krauthammer:
Obama: The Audacity of Vanity

507 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:43:44am

re: #502 steve

Look, for the last time - Obama didn't have a flat, he was just riding in a slightly misaligned universe. your attitude is not helping Michelle's children.

508 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:44:17am

re: #502 steve

Conceal a flat, and the world will think the worst.

Martial


I ruined a rim once that way.

509 steve  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:45:56am

re: #502 steve

Look, for the last time - Obama didn't have a flat, he was just riding in a slightly misaligned universe. your attitude is not helping Michelle's children.


I'm sorry......
So sorry....


There is a song in there somewhere.

Gotta go. One last clean for the night and I am done for the weekend.
Good night
all Lizards!

510 Jed 1899  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:46:00am

Good Morning Lizards!
Top of the day to ya's.

511 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:46:41am

Good morning Lizards. Sup y'all?
I am very excited. Al Gore challenged us to be 100% alternate energy reliant in 10 years.
That of course means no drilling. The man is an idiot. A wealthy idiot, but still an idiot.

512 yochanan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:47:03am

MEMO TO OLMERA (A SHUNDA)
MEMO

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Your recent post contained troll-like characteristics which resembles the type of message sent by spoiled ISM members on summer holiday, college students who have recently inhaled Noam Chomsky’s foul rantings, Adam Shapiro wannabes, Nazi sympathizers, or genuine [bigoted word]s.

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513 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 3:47:11am

re: #404 migueldowninmexico

Miguel, you're back! So good to see you. Glad to hear you are doing well.

514 Panhandler  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:00:47am

re: #511 opnion

You're not the only one who's excited.

515 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:08:49am

Morning all. G*d I had hoped that this thread would have been replaced with something new by now. What's the body count?

516 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:27:39am

Mornin' folks. Isn't it great when two infamous "civil rights leaders" bicker amongst each other?

517 Throbert McGee  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:29:55am

Hey, any bets on whether "George Slivers" was really a Muslim in drag?

518 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:32:44am

re: #512 yochanan

MEMO TO OLMERA (A SHUNDA)
MEMO
This is an automated reply from the Bullshit Detector at Little Green Footballs.
Your recent post contained troll-like characteristics which resembles the type of message sent by spoiled ISM members on summer holiday


I didn't miss anything/troll did I?

I get up late and always miss the big ones.

When I go fishing late,
some jerk with 5 dollars of fishing gear is carrying my 20 pound fish out of the woods.

please come back?

519 Bubblehead II  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:33:17am

Later all. Time to go to w*rk. May pop in and out today if the job load allows.

520 JimmyTheClaw  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:34:40am

The train was quite crowded, so a U. S. Marine walked the entire length looking for a seat, but the only seat left was taken by a well-dressed, middle-aged, French woman's poodle.

The war-weary Marine asked, 'Ma'am, may I have that seat?'
The French woman just sniffed and said to no one in particular 'Americans are so rude.

My little Fifi is using that seat.'

The Marine walked the entire train again, but the only seat left was under that dog.

'Please, ma'am. May I sit down? I'm very tired.'

She snorted, 'Not only are you Americans rude, you are also arrogant!'

This time the Marine didn't say a word; he just picked up the little dog, tossed it out the train window, and sat down.

The woman shrieked, 'Someone must defend my honor! this American should be put in his place!'

An English gentleman sitting nearby spoke up, 'Sir, you Americans often seem to have a penchant for doing the wrong thing. You hold the fork in the wrong hand. You drive your autos on the wrong side of the road. And now, sir, you seem to have thrown the wrong bitch out the window.'

521 itsjustme  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:36:35am

Charles,

I hope that quote was put up in jest, as snopes.com shows that the quote is false.

522 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:36:50am

re: #520 JimmyTheClaw


An English gentleman sitting nearby spoke up, 'Sir, you Americans often seem to have a penchant for doing the wrong thing. You hold the fork in the wrong hand. You drive your autos on the wrong side of the road. And now, sir, you seem to have thrown the wrong bitch out the window.'


LOL

523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:39:37am

Joke from the 80's...

Secret Service Instructions...

Standing order...Anything happens to President Bush...

Shoot Quayle.

524 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:43:00am

re: #521 itsjustme

It's a joke. Meant to be funny. But, Dan was the Yogi Berra of politics.

Please see...

re: #60 Opilio

525 JarvisW  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:49:28am

Yeah, Dan gets tagged with EVERY stupid thing he says, but Obambi says there are 57 states, and no one cares.

I could go on, but I won't.

526 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:55:02am

After the big California Earthquake in 89, Prez Bush sent Quayle to assess damage and report back.

When he got Bush asked him what he saw at the epicenter, Quayle replied, "I saw Donald, and Mickey, and Goofey..."

527 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:55:33am

re: #524 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It was funny.

I was just reading the news.

So boring.

Americans are safe,
Iraq/ US troops wanting to go to Afghanistan for excitement.

Bush is a boring president.

We need Obama to bring some change /excitement into our lives.

528 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:57:37am

re: #525 JarvisW

Oh, of course. I'm just chuckling remembering the late 80s.

529 JarvisW  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:58:49am

Oh I know, I'm just pointing out the obvious lol.

530 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:07:30am

Good morning, Lizards.

531 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:08:26am

re: #525 JarvisW

Yeah, Dan gets tagged with EVERY stupid thing he says, but Obambi says there are 57 states, and no one cares.

I could go on, but I won't.

What was worse was his saying he saw many of the "fallen" during his Memorial Day speech.

532 Timbre  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:11:58am

re: #517 Throbert McGee

Hey, any bets on whether "George Slivers" was really a Muslim in drag?

All I know is a "drmark" kept up-dinging his comments. Maybe an alter-ego?

533 3 wood  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:12:24am

Good Morning Lizards.

Once again the grim news of civil war, unspeakable violence with no end in sight say we should accept defeat and get out now.....from Chicago.

Three critically wounded in West Side shooting

Three men were hospitalized Thursday night after being shot during a West Side altercation.

The men were shot during an altercation in the 800 block of North Keeler Avenue about 8:50 p.m., said police News Affairs Officer John Henry, who was citing preliminary information.

Fire Media Affairs spokesman Richard Rosado said two men were taken to John H. Stroger, Jr. Hospital of Cook County in critical condition. A third man was taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital in critical condition.

On the other hand, things sound pretty quiet in Iraq.

534 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:12:55am

re: #531 goddessoftheclassroom

What was worse was his saying he saw many of the "fallen" during his Memorial Day speech.

" I see dead people"

535 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:13:21am

re: #534 opnion

" I see dead people"

What, Chicago voters?

536 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:14:27am

re: #535 goddessoftheclassroom

What, Chicago voters?


'Dey wuz good demcratz when de wuz alive. Why not now?"

537 Karridine  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:16:30am

re: #532 Timbre

All I know is a "drmark" kept up-dinging his comments. Maybe an alter-ego?


Timbre, I noticed that too, earlier... drmark updinging slobbers slivers

I reported your comment to Stinky, not because of anything YOU did, but because of that noted drmark/slivers dynamic...

/feel free to report ME, should the spirit move you :D

538 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:18:01am

Good morning Lizards..........

539 Karridine  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:18:30am

Dang.

Sons want me to cook up some dinner, cuz Mom's out of the house on business...

bbiaw

540 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:19:17am

Good Morning Lizards!
Hey! It's friday!
[Link: wwwweeeeeee!...]

541 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:19:46am

re: #539 Karridine

Dang.

Sons want me to cook up some dinner, cuz Mom's out of the house on business...

bbiaw

Mrh... Give em a can of spam and some crackers and tell them their roughing it tonight...

542 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:20:33am

re: #540 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
Hey! It's friday!
[Link: wwwweeeeeee!...]

No, no no, silly hoops, its PAYDAY.........WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...........

543 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:20:37am

{doriangrey}
{HoosierHoops}

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

544 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:20:55am

{Goddess}
what up ?

545 Karridine  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:21:08am

re: #541 doriangrey

Noooo... here in Bangkok a can of Spam would be a luxury, a treat!

Sorry, Dorian! :D

546 Timbre  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:21:55am

re: #537 Karridine

I looked at few of "drmark"'s comments: The writing seems good, coherent, no wild punctuation and typing errors like Slivers had earlier on this thread. I'm probably wrong.

547 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:22:03am

re: #545 Karridine

Noooo... here in Bangkok a can of Spam would be a luxury, a treat!

Sorry, Dorian! :D

Well heck I tried...........

548 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:22:53am

re: #543 goddessoftheclassroom

{doriangrey}
{HoosierHoops}

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]

Good morning goddess.... ((goddess))..../pinches goddess butt.......

549 Karridine  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:23:33am

re: #546 Timbre

Just an admirer, awarding props from afar, pleased to add to the quality dialogue...

/perhaps, Timbre

// anyhoo, I gotta get squamous here, bbiaw :D

550 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:23:59am

re: #544 HoosierHoops

{Goddess}
what up ?

Today is the last day of drama camp for tge group of 5th & 6th graders I've been working with; their show is tonight. It's been so much fun, even though this is a younger group than I usually work with. Next week I have my Jr/Sr High group.

Oh, I saw a car with three bumper stickers: "Choice," "Stop the torture/stop the war" and "Hillary for President."

The real problem with moonbats is their inability to notice irony and hypocrisy.

551 akak  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:24:40am

Sarkozy really jumpin the shark today. He just doesn't get it, despite previous reports.

552 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:24:41am

re: #548 doriangrey

Good morning goddess.... ((goddess))..../pinches goddess butt.......

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]


(I can't believe I'm getting the chance to use this one...)

553 3 wood  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:25:52am

Sports Nerd Corner:

In the British Open, Greg Norman is in the clubhouse with the lead after 2 round at even par. I hear that the weather is deteriorating so the later tee times will likely have a hard time of it out there. If that is true, most of the competition will be pushed back today. There is a very good chance that the end of the day, only 5 or 10 golfers will have any chance of catching Norman.

I see that Villegas is also in at 1 over after two rounds. Villegas will fall apart Saturday or Sunday, so I don't see him as serious competition for Norman.

It will be interesting to see if Captain Shortgame aka the Pillsbury Doughboy aka Phil Mickleson even makes the cut.

554 stevenh  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:26:43am

Schoolboys disciplined for 'refusing to pray to Allah'

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

No additional comments necessary

555 akak  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:27:43am

re: #553 3 wood


Good to see Norman doing well, he was a bright light when golf needed some personality.

556 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:28:25am
557 Timbre  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:29:16am

re: #553 3 wood

I bet Els was shaking his head yesterday: shooting a 45 on the back after a 35 on the front!

558 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:31:49am

re: #550 goddessoftheclassroom

Today is the last day of drama camp for tge group of 5th & 6th graders I've been working with; their show is tonight. It's been so much fun, even though this is a younger group than I usually work with. Next week I have my Jr/Sr High group.

Oh, I saw a car with three bumper stickers: "Choice," "Stop the torture/stop the war" and "Hillary for President."

The real problem with moonbats is their inability to notice irony and hypocrisy.

good morning me lady..that sounds really cool..
I don't think we had drama camp when i was a kid..well any kind of camping was drama...
I'm pretty sure ( I have good sources ) that Hillary will not be our next president..

559 Timbre  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:32:29am

re: #556 SasquatchOnSteroids

A man rests on a vintage car in Havana July 16, 2008

Vintage is a bit....generous.

It's hard to tell from the bottom of his shoes, but I think that's Fidel's driver...

560 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:32:36am

re: #555 akak

Good to see Norman doing well, he was a bright light when golf needed some personality.

I really like Norman..
Hey he is really producing some good wine also..

561 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:34:45am

re: #556 SasquatchOnSteroids

A man rests on a vintage car in Havana July 16, 2008

Vintage is a bit....generous.


Hey hombre, sweet Ride.

562 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:35:32am

It will be interesting to see if Captain Shortgame aka the Pillsbury Doughboy aka Phil Mickleson even makes the cut.

It's like that movie..kingfish..
When he walks into the bowling alley and says ' look at all these finely tuned athletes' and they are all drinking and smoking :)
i like phil also..

563 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:36:08am

re: #559 Timbre

Could be. Maybe this is his day car, since it has not one light socket filled. Less weight = better gas mileage, Fidels' gone green,

564 akak  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:38:16am

Livni visits Eldad Regev's home, says deal price was bearable

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

She was also a major player in walking away from the fight.

Hope people remember when voting, and don't get caught up in her IDF crap.

How did Netanyahu comment on the exchange?

565 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:41:22am

re: #561 opnion

Hey hombre, sweet Ride.

Or as we say out here on the left coast...............Nice bike lame.......

566 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:41:55am

re: #556 SasquatchOnSteroids

A man rests on a vintage car in Havana July 16, 2008

Vintage is a bit....generous.

Apparently, it's easier to get locks than headlights in Cuba these days... (Whodathunkit?)

567 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:42:11am

My job has gone to 4 ten hour shifts. I get Fridays off now. What am I to do if I'm not working? *sigh*

I guess I can come up with something.

568 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:43:08am

re: #564 akak

Hey... at least the evil bloodthirsty monsters are jealous!

Morning all!

I can't believe Kuntar denies the crime. He has the audacity to claim that the girl whose head he brutally smashed in against a rock was actually shot by Israeli fire. GRRRR....

569 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:43:38am

re: #567 David IV of Georgia

My job has gone to 4 ten hour shifts. I get Fridays off now. What am I to do if I'm not working? *sigh*

I guess I can come up with something.

Go to the bar at noon, stay all day, drink mucho beer, much profit..... :)

570 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:45:14am

re: #569 doriangrey

Go to the bar at noon, stay all day, drink mucho beer, much profit..... :)

why wait till noon? you're off saturday..
party on dude :)

571 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:45:17am

re: #556 SasquatchOnSteroids

A man rests on a vintage car in Havana July 16, 2008

Vintage is a bit....generous.

Is that an old Moskva? They were vintage brand-new.

572 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:45:27am

re: #567 David IV of Georgia

Same here, except (4) 9-hour days.
I now golf every Friday. Perfect.
And with that, I bid all of you Merci Beaucoup.
Time to scare the squirrels.

573 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:48:41am

Goodl Morning Mr. 3Wood.

574 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:50:26am

re: #573 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Goodl Morning Mr. 3Wood.

Morning FBV........

575 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:50:59am

Didn't mean to say Goodl. Hi Everybody.

576 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:51:40am

re: #570 HoosierHoops

why wait till noon? you're off saturday..
party on dude :)

Noon is a great time to get up on your day off... ;P

577 jorline  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:53:02am

Good morning lizards.
I was rushing to catch my plane to Europe with Barry, but missed my flight.

578 A.W.  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:53:09am

Btw, as a point of fact, he didn't actually say that.

It was a joke told in a newsroom that was then mistakenly reported as a fact.

579 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:53:31am

re: #570 HoosierHoops

why wait till noon? you're off saturday..
party on dude :)

I actually thought of writing some "beer for breakfast" joke...
I would like to do something besides sleep all afternoon though.

I was at a little restaurant in NE Pennsylvania. They had a Bud Light Beer poster with a lot of white space on it. They had handwritten in the white space: "Unlimited Breakfast Buffet: Monday-Friday, 7-11, $6". I always wondered what an unlimited Bud Light breakfast buffet was like. I guess I'll never know—that's some 1500 miles away now.

580 akak  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:54:47am

re: #568 rlevitin

Sure they are jealous, after all their teenagers get arrested on purpose so they can study for exams - while getting good conditions/food/treatment.

Sarkozy & his occupation crap really needs to be hammered today! Is he trying to get into Condi's pants or something?

581 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:54:55am

re: #576 doriangrey

Noon is a great time to get up on your day off... ;P

I slept in til 6AM. Now I feel groggy from too much sleep.

582 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:56:20am

test

583 3 wood  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:57:29am

re: #557 Timbre

I bet Els was shaking his head yesterday: shooting a 45 on the back after a 35 on the front!

That course can jump up and bite you. I've played it. You have to figure out where the plateaus are in the fairways/greens and hit to them

584 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:58:21am

re: #583 3 wood

That course can jump up and bite you. I've played it. You have to figure out where the plateaus are in the fairways/greens and hit to them

good to see you 3 wood...

585 3 wood  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:58:43am

re: #562 HoosierHoops

It's like that movie..kingfish..
When he walks into the bowling alley and says ' look at all these finely tuned athletes' and they are all drinking and smoking :)
i like phil also..

He has his house up for sale. I wonder why...

586 ec marm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:59:29am

Hehehe.
New logo.
'A' bomber 08

587 3 wood  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 5:59:33am

re: #573 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Goodl Morning Mr. 3Wood.

Good morning Veg.

588 3 wood  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:00:07am

re: #584 HoosierHoops

Good to see you too.

589 tedzilla99  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:00:29am

I hope Charles will add a correction to this post - a quick Snopes check was all that was needed.

And, on the potato/potatoe thing, most people don't recall that when he 'corrected' that kid's spelling, he read it off a flash card that the class was using. It's one of those moments when you read it out loud without thinking, and then later you know what you read was wrong.

He did make a lot of funny misstatements, but I don't recall him ever saying there were more than 50 states, or get the name of the town he was in wrong, etc. But Obamessiah is the genius and Dan is the dunce.

590 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:01:01am

Well off to work go I, er off and running like a herd of turtles, should get the old vette back next week....

591 Aylios  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:02:37am

re: #556 SasquatchOnSteroids

A man rests on a vintage car in Havana July 16, 2008

Vintage is a bit....generous.

Vintage wreck maybe?

592 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:02:45am

re: #567 David IV of Georgia
Ha!
Me too!
They sent out a questionarie ....
Will this change save you money?
Hell no!
The lake is 45 min... away!
Gas.... Beer ....snacks!
This 4 tens shit will COST me MONEY!
LOL
But I can deal!

593 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:02:59am

what a perfect little 21st century nazi ...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

right down to the sieg heil salute.

594 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:03:29am

re: #591 Aylios

Vintage wreck maybe?

Are you kidding? In Cuba that is a better chick magnet than Dorian's Vette.

595 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:03:53am

re: #571 David IV of Georgia
No....
1957 Chevy ...But it's a four door...Bleeegh!

596 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:04:37am

re: #593 _RememberTonyC

I posted that exact link above (see my #568)... simply disgusting.

597 akak  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:04:53am

The British government is to fund a board of Islamic theologians in an attempt to sideline violent extremists.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Qur'an 33:36, "It is not fitting for a Muslim man or woman to have any choice in their affairs when a matter has been decided for them by Allah and His Messenger. They have no option."

598 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:05:16am

re: #589 tedzilla99,

There are 57 states in the Country that Obama is loyal to. 57 states in the OIC, of course.

599 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:05:24am

re: #595 reloadingisnotahobby

No....
1957 Chevy ...But it's a four door...Bleeegh!

Great for a girl looking for a future family man. It has a master bedroom with TWO separate entrances. Deeeeee-LUX.

600 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:05:59am

591 ... you imperialist pig!

that there's a 1967 cuban engineered park bench.

call chris dodd and offer to apologize to fidel

601 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:06:45am

re: #599 OldLineTexan
That's funny TEX!
LOL

602 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:07:31am

Hey! The building is tingling again!

603 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:07:57am

re: #593 _RememberTonyC

what a perfect little 21st century nazi ...

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

right down to the sieg heil salute.

Wrath posted three links yesterday about him, one of which was a striking resemblance to Hitler.

604 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:08:34am

re: #592 reloadingisnotahobby

Ha!
Me too!
They sent out a questionarie ....
Will this change save you money?
Hell no!
The lake is 45 min... away!
Gas.... Beer ....snacks!
This 4 tens shit will COST me MONEY!
LOL
But I can deal!

Free time tends to cost a lot of money.

We were joking at work if this would actually save anyone but the company money—Execs get company cars with company gas cards for company business. But Execs are liable to have to go to work on Friday regardless.

The biggest benefit will be that if I have to put in overtime it will be on Friday and won't wreck my whole weekend.

605 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:09:12am

#596 ...

Good job by you ...

the nazi salute thing should be a warning sign to everyone out there that claims to be "anti nazi." you know, like the leftists who say one thing and embrace these new nazis. these people are signaling their intentions loud and clear.

606 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:09:42am

re: #582 christheprofessor

test

Morning Chris,
I know what test means to me.

You professors have different meaning for tests. ... yo


/soon to be retired and going back to college.


Why the hell would a 62 year old man go back to school?

/pretty girls?

607 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:10:10am

re: #560 HoosierHoops

I like Norman also. Was surprised when I read 3 wood's update above. I will probably have it on today while I work to watch when I can. I was unaware that he had a wine label. What is the name? I would like to try it. Not a big wine drinker, but enjoy it occasionally.

608 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:10:30am

#603 Thanks Mandy ...

hope you are well looking forward to the dem convention?

609 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:10:46am

re: #595 reloadingisnotahobby

No....
1957 Chevy ...But it's a four door...Bleeegh!

My father was the one who could name any car make/model/year after just a brief glance, not me.

610 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:11:59am

re: #604 David IV of Georgia
But every silver lining has to have a cloud!
I also have some really big trees that need a hair cut...
My wife pointed it out again last night!
Thanks honey! DOOH!

611 Aylios  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:12:23am

Ok, just so you fellow lizards don't think we're all pandering idiots over here in La France, here's something positive about the place: [Link: news.yahoo.com...]

612 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:12:37am

gotta run y'all ... cya later

613 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:12:50am
DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. - An internal affairs report says a Daytona Beach police officer demanded free coffee and tea from a Starbucks and threatened employees with slower emergency response times if they refused.

Lt. Major Garvin, a 15-year veteran, was fired July 8. According to the Daytona Beach News-Journal, Chief Mike Chitwood says Garvin recently failed a polygraph test that he insisted on taking.

The coffeehouse's employees claim that since June 2007, Garvin had visited the store as many as six times a night while on duty. Besides demanding free drinks, workers complained that Garvin also cut in front of paying customers.

614 eaglewingz08  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:14:01am

Quayle in his four years as VP never made as many gaffes, goofs, buffoonery, flip flops, contradictory statements that the Obamanation has made in mere months of campaigning, yet the former is vilified and ridiculed by the LMSM and the latter is canonized by the same LMSM.

615 Aylios  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:14:09am

Here's an excerpt btw:

"On June 27, France's highest administrative body, the Council of State, ruled that the woman, identified only as Faiza X, had "adopted a radical practice of her religion incompatible with the essential values of the French community, notably with the principle of equality of the sexes, and therefore she does not fulfill the conditions of assimilation" listed in the country's Civil Code as a requirement for gaining French citizenship."

Vive La France! (pfew, now nice it is to be able to say that without irony)

616 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:14:43am

Good morning all. Lovely day here in Chambodia -- gotta go cut the grass in a few before it gets too hot.

What's hap?

617 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:14:45am

re: #607 Dolphin

I like Norman also. Was surprised when I read 3 wood's update above. I will probably have it on today while I work to watch when I can. I was unaware that he had a wine label. What is the name? I would like to try it. Not a big wine drinker, but enjoy it occasionally.

here ya go my friend..
Greg Norman Estates
Greg Norman's love of golf, Australia and his family is well documented. His love for premium Australian wines isn't as well known, but certainly well developed. Fine wine is one of my great passions, and Australian wine in particular. His passion and curiosity led him to launch Greg Norman Australia Estates, a collection of wines from his native Australia..

618 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:14:45am

re: #614 eaglewingz08

Quayle in his four years as VP never made as many gaffes, goofs, buffoonery, flip flops, contradictory statements that the Obamanation has made in mere months of campaigning, yet the former is vilified and ridiculed by the LMSM and the latter is canonized by the same LMSM.

But you know, I never thought of him as dishonest as I do Obama.

619 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:15:25am

re: #611 Aylios

Notice that the spokesperson claims a Muslim kinship with a Rabbi?

"Will we see a man refused citizenship because of the length of his beard ... or a man who is dressed as a rabbi, or a priest?"

620 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:15:31am

re: #614 eaglewingz08

Quayle in his four years as VP never made as many gaffes, goofs, buffoonery, flip flops, contradictory statements that the Obamanation has made in mere months of campaigning, yet the former is vilified and ridiculed by the LMSM and the latter is canonized by the same LMSM.

But there is a huge difference that you are overlooking -- Obama is a DEMOCRAT. That changes everything.

621 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:15:34am

re: #603 MandyManners

Wrath posted three links yesterday about him, one of which was a striking resemblance to Hitler.

Here it is. [Link: www.daylife.com...]

622 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:15:51am

Morning Goddes -- how's drama camp?

623 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:16:11am

re: #613 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Who'da thunk there was a shortage of donut shops in Daytona Beach?

/my brother did a stint as a medical center cop (here in Texas, we even have water district cops in some places), and he used to eat at a Burger King free every day. But they were desperate for uniformed LEOs to keep the thugs and muggers away from their clientele, so he and his friends were INVITED back, time and again.

624 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:16:23am

test

625 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:16:26am

re: #618 goddessoftheclassroom

But you know, I never thought of him as dishonest as I do Obama.

He was/is a goof.. but he's our goof..

626 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:16:47am

re: #606 ibmkeyboard
Things are getting weird here in BFE Utah....
Stopped at the express mart after work,there was a lady sifting the ash trsys for butts....Then lite one up...Yikes!

627 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:16:53am

re: #622 Lucius Septimius

Lucius...Hi, you must be staying busy. Gotta run though.

See y'all later.

628 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:16:59am

re: #621 MandyManners

Here it is. [Link: www.daylife.com...]

good morning Mandy!

629 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:17:31am

re: #606 ibmkeyboard

Hey, dude. I was up in your neck of the woods a couple of months ago (on business, or I would have looked you up).

Actually, I was just testing a new avatar. Though I did give my summer class a test yesterday -- you should have heard the beeyatching! They told me I was the hardest professor they'd had...

You going to go to school locally?

630 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:18:01am

re: #622 Lucius Septimius

Morning Goddes -- how's drama camp?

It's been a lot of fun. I'll be working with these kids next year or the year after in junior high, and they have a lot of talent.

Next week is the JH/SH group, and I've worked with some of them for several years--it's like a reunion.

631 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:18:09am

Good morning all y'all - from a warmish (73 degrees, going up to 92 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

632 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:18:31am

re: #626 reloadingisnotahobby

Things are getting weird here in BFE Utah....
Stopped at the express mart after work,there was a lady sifting the ash trsys for butts....Then lite one up...Yikes!

"Old stogies, I have found;
Short, but not too big around
I'm a man of means, by no means
King of the Road". Roger Miller

Remember when we could call them "hobo's"?

633 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:18:59am

re: #621 MandyManners

{MandyManners}

Your comment to me the other night meant so much. I really needed it. Thanks for understanding.

634 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:19:14am

re: #631 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warmish (73 degrees, going up to 92 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?


good morning Realwest..
I've already spilled a cup of coffee..but it is friday!

635 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:19:17am

re: #631 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warmish (73 degrees, going up to 92 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

{realwest}!

HOW ARE YOU?

636 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:20:01am

re: #626 reloadingisnotahobby

Things are getting weird here in BFE Utah....
Stopped at the express mart after work,there was a lady sifting the ash trsys for butts....Then lite one up...Yikes!

Utah?

Always wanted to visit Utah.

In the news about a tour bus burning up in the valley, no one hurt,
even the news man said "such a beautiful place"

637 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:20:11am

re: #616 Lucius Septimius

Good morning all. Lovely day here in Chambodia -- gotta go cut the grass in a few before it gets too hot.

What's hap?

We've had butt-loads of rain here lately (including a downpour this AM before I got out of bed), so the grass is growing like weeds. Just a few weeks ago, it looked like it was dead and gone...

638 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:20:58am

re: #628 HoosierHoops

Howdy! How'd you like that photograph?

639 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:21:22am

Oh and btw, just to let my friends out here know, if I'm ever arrested for intentional infliction of physical harm on someone, that someone will either be former Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara or T. Boone Pickens. I saw his (Pickens')
commercial about how we can't drill our way out of this one and thought about how those dumbshits in the House of Representatives mighta figured "hey he's an oil man and he says we can't drill our way out so.................no new legislation allowing for new drilling in Anwar or off either coast of the US.
/ok, early AM rant off.

640 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:21:45am

re: #633 goddessoftheclassroom

{MandyManners}

Your comment to me the other night meant so much. I really needed it. Thanks for understanding.

You're welcome! (BTW, I'm fuzzy-headed right now...which comment?)

641 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:22:00am

re: #613 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Some people think that courtesies and gratuities granted at some times and places are owed them everywhere at all times. Don't expect special treatment and be gracious whether it is given or not.

Although this is a minor thing, this police lieutenant shows a very serious lapse in judgment or character flaw that could easily adversely influence much more serious matters. If true, fire the doofus.

642 Aylios  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:22:19am

re: #619 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Notice that the spokesperson claims a Muslim kinship with a Rabbi?

Yeah I know FBV, but the shills from the various Islamic societies will always trot out that tiresome crap. The important point is that the french authorities effectively said 'bollocks' to all that and denied her the citizenship.

643 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:22:46am

re: #632 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The frieght trian that passed by the dairy I worked on as akid always had hobos on them.
My brother and I would be waiting to cross
so we picked orange and grapefruit to toss them as the slowly went by!
So now we call them what?
Urban wayfarers?

644 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:22:52am

re: #629 christheprofessor
Morning Chris.

You going to go to school locally?

Yes,
back to community first.
CVCC

I have a degree-
but want to be a lawyer.

can you believe that Shiite?

me a lawyer!

lo

645 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:23:09am

re: #52 realwest


What has he done? Just don't know - all I know that he has done is a) got elected to the US Senate (no small feat, there) b) may have won the Dem Party's nomination for President and c) apparently, destroyed all of his paperwork from his days in the Illinois Senate.

There was a CNN Special Investigation about his run for Senate... apparently he managed to disqualify most of the people running against him by challenging their petitions and successfully removing enough of them. I didn't watch the whole thing, but I got the impression that it didn't come down to an actual vote; he just managed to get all of his competition disqualified for one reason or another. He claimed at the time it was "perfectly legitimate" because if one of them could not run a proper petition drive, how could they be in the Senate?

646 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:23:45am

re: #632 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Good morning to you! Just for you: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

647 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:24:28am

Why does the White House need a street address? It's not like the mail carriers need it.

648 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:24:55am

re: #640 MandyManners

You're welcome! (BTW, I'm fuzzy-headed right now...which comment?)

This one:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

649 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:25:09am

re: #634 HoosierHoops
Good morning back atcha! Friday, Tuesday, whatever, I'm retired and weekends have sorta lost their luster for me!
/ducks and heads for cover from incoming! LOL!

650 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:25:44am

re: #636 ibmkeyboard
Red Canyon just outside Bryce National Park!
Yes,Very fortunate yuts ....No injurys!
The Police officer that took two to the head a couple weeks ago has been released form the hospital too!

Recovery looks good!
Way Too Go!

651 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:26:20am

re: #635 goddessoftheclassroom {goddess} I'm still suffering with that damn toothache pain, but other than that, I'm good!
How are you doing today? Well, I hope!

652 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:26:24am

re: #630 goddessoftheclassroom


That sounds like fun -- it's always neat seeing the kids when they're all grown up, so to speak.

Of course when mine come back we drink and tell lies about the old days and compare the extent of our bald spots while our kids chase each other around.

653 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:26:35am

re: #636 ibmkeyboard

Just so ya now!
That's my ....back yard!
Yea Me!

654 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:27:24am

re: #650 reloadingisnotahobby

Red Canyon just outside Bryce National Park!
Yes,Very fortunate yuts ....No injurys!
The Police officer that took two to the head a couple weeks ago has been released form the hospital too!

Recovery looks good!
Way Too Go!


great.

655 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:27:48am

re: #651 realwest

{goddess} I'm still suffering with that damn toothache pain, but other than that, I'm good!
How are you doing today? Well, I hope!

I'm so sorry that you still have that pain--I hope it's taken care of soon.

656 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:28:09am

re: #644 ibmkeyboard

Great, just what we need -- another lawyer! ;)

I took the LSAT once -- that damn logic and reasoning section made me want to put a bullet in my head...

"Persons A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, and I are sitting in a train car. Person A can only sit next to B only if C is across from I. D can sit by F and G only if H is sitting next to E. Answer the following 10 questions:

1. Assume D is sitting on H's lap, and B is next to A. How many seating arrangements are there? (ad nauseam)"

657 jorline  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:28:20am

re: #631 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warmish (73 degrees, going up to 92 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

Morning RW...how's that tooth this morning?

658 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:28:25am

re: #637 christheprofessor

We've had butt-loads of rain here lately (including a downpour this AM before I got out of bed), so the grass is growing like weeds. Just a few weeks ago, it looked like it was dead and gone...

Same here -- we've had the standard summer rain pattern, but for a few days we finally had enough rain to saturate the ground and now everything is sprouting -- especially that section of the front yard where I caught the neighbor "curbing" her dog ....

659 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:29:19am

re: #644 ibmkeyboard
Good morning to you! Uh, as someone who worked as a lawyer for over 35 years, I have to ask you this my friend: WHY THE HELL DO Y'ALL WANT TO BE A LAWYER?! You're too smart to be a lawyer and it costs too much to get a law degree just to prove that!

660 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:29:54am

re: #656 christheprofessor

I loved the logic section on the GREs -- of course it helped that I'd taken formal logic. Also, there was an article in Smithsonian not long before I took the test that explained the "trick" to answering those questions.

661 Sizzlack  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:29:55am

Two Thirds of Egyptian Men Harass Women?

Of course they say its the women's fault.

662 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:30:04am

re: #531 goddessoftheclassroom

What was worse was his saying he saw many of the "fallen" during his Memorial Day speech.

Where is the error, Goddess? I'm not catching it.

663 kyle_st  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:30:06am

Actually, Quayle never said this. See at Snopes.

664 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:30:11am

re: #648 goddessoftheclassroom

Aw. Now I'm blushing!

665 Aylios  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:30:31am

I guess we'll never find out what kind of 'youths' these were:
Police officers attacked over litter row

666 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:30:53am

re: #649 realwest

Good morning back atcha! Friday, Tuesday, whatever, I'm retired and weekends have sorta lost their luster for me!
/ducks and heads for cover from incoming! LOL!


INCOMING!

667 jorline  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:31:04am

re: #639 realwest

Oh and btw, just to let my friends out here know, if I'm ever arrested for intentional infliction of physical harm on someone, that someone will either be former Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara or T. Boone Pickens. I saw his (Pickens')
commercial about how we can't drill our way out of this one and thought about how those dumbshits in the House of Representatives mighta figured "hey he's an oil man and he says we can't drill our way out so.................no new legislation allowing for new drilling in Anwar or off either coast of the US.
/ok, early AM rant off.

T. Boone is heavily leveraged in wind farms...his new black gold.

668 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:31:13am

re: #639 realwest

Good morning Real -- LOL.

Trust me; if you want to off McNamara, you'd probably need to take a number.

669 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:31:22am

re: #645 rlevitin Good morning! It wasn't just the paperwork on his opponents petition drives, he destroyed ALL the paperwork from when he was a state legislator - and if the Communist News Network reported it about Obama, you KNOW it must be BAD.

670 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:31:34am

re: #656 christheprofessor

Great, just what we need -- another lawyer! ;)

I took the LSAT once -- that damn logic and reasoning section made me want to put a bullet in my head...

"Persons A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, and I are sitting in a train car. Person A can only sit next to B only if C is across from I. D can sit by F and G only if H is sitting next to E. Answer the following 10 questions:

1. Assume D is sitting on H's lap, and B is next to A. How many seating arrangements are there? (ad nauseam)"

My answer to each question: TAKE THE FREAKIN' BUS.

671 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:31:38am

re: #656 christheprofessor

Great, just what we need -- another lawyer! ;)

I took the LSAT once -- that damn logic and reasoning section made me want to put a bullet in my head...

"Persons A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, and I are sitting in a train car. Person A can only sit next to B only if C is across from I. D can sit by F and G only if H is sitting next to E. Answer the following 10 questions:

1. Assume D is sitting on H's lap, and B is next to A. How many seating arrangements are there? (ad nauseam)"

That's also a part of the GRE (the my exhausting exam I've ever taken), and I was pleased (and amazed) at how well I did. The math section, not so well...

672 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:31:41am

re: #661 Sizzlack

Two Thirds of Egyptian Men Harass Women?

Of course they say its the women's fault.

Uncovered meat and all that.

673 A.W.  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:32:02am

Btw, here is snopes on the quote:

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

You can see in my post above, i got the story behind the screw up a little wrong, but oh well. Its a window into how things were before the internet and outlets like LGF. They got away with this, and the Bush Sr. amazed by supermarket tech myth because there was no alternative to speak of, to the MSM. now there are hundreds of sites ready to tear this kind of thing apart. Barrack Obama says his grandfather liberated a concentration camp in Poland, and within hours bloggers have torn it apart. they come up with fake documents about bush's service in the national guard, and powerline and LGF demonstrate them to be fakes--and poor fakes at that. In earlier times, these things would have been considered dogma.

674 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:32:21am

re: #656 christheprofessor

I took the LSAT once -- that damn logic and reasoning section made me want to put a bullet in my head...

"Persons A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, and I are sitting in a train car. Person A can only sit next to B only if C is across from I. D can sit by F and G only if H is sitting next to E. Answer the following 10 questions:

1. Assume D is sitting on H's lap, and B is next to A. How many seating arrangements are there? (ad nauseam)"

I still want to be a lawyer!

then a judge,
then a politician,
then a president for Change.
then take over the Fricking World..

all at age 89....... yo

675 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:32:31am

re: #662 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Where is the error, Goddess? I'm not catching it.

The "fallen" are dead, so unless Obama was a medium, he couldn't see them.

676 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:32:34am

re: #638 MandyManners

Howdy! How'd you like that photograph?


you mean the middle east Hitler photo? unfrigginbelievable..
people are so stupid!

677 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:32:41am

re: #617 HoosierHoops

Thank you. I am going to look for it this weekend. I like the Australian wines I have tried.

678 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:32:45am

re: #652 Lucius Septimius Hey good morning Lucius! How are you doing this morning? Got all that software installed in that there brand spankin' new laptop yet?

679 Sizzlack  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:33:21am

re: #672 Lucius Septimius

Could you imagine that in this country. Some guy harasses a woman, and after the woman complains...the guy's excuse is "Hey, if her ass wasn't so nice, I wouldn't have to sexually harass her".

Um...no.

680 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:33:48am

re: #661 Sizzlack

Well, look at the way they're dressed! Ha!

681 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:34:22am

re: #655 goddessoftheclassroom Thanks, but I really wanted to know how YOU'RE doing!

682 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:34:44am

re: #649 realwest

Good morning back atcha! Friday, Tuesday, whatever, I'm retired and weekends have sorta lost their luster for me!
/ducks and heads for cover from incoming! LOL!

I remember enjoying spending all day every day in summer playing in the baking 100°F+ sun exhibiting many of the symptoms of heat exhaustion/stroke and thinking it was all great fun...

683 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:34:47am

re: #646 realwest

The words I learned to this song were:

FN's for sale or rent
Hand grenades 50 cents. . . . . .

/gotta love the army

684 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:35:24am

re: #658 Lucius Septimius

especially that section of the front yard where I caught the neighbor "curbing" her dog

I had to be gone most of the day yesterday so I dropped my dog off at my neighbor's a couple houses down. In the process, she went down one more house and crapped on the lawn (my dog, not my neighbor). They weren't there but I still trudged home and got my shovel and dutifully went over and cleaned it up...

Regarding logic problems, I always loved them as well, and am usually pretty good at them. But the type like I mentioned was something I'd never seen before (that I can recall). Only found out after the fact that there is a trick to answering them. (Not surprising at all that a test for lawyers requires knowledge of a trick to get right -- perfect training for asshats like John Edwards)...

685 jorline  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:35:53am

Good morning BFV, Hoosier, Lucius, Mandy and goddess.

686 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:35:54am

re: #657 jorline Hey jorline, hurts just as much as it did yesterday and I still gotta wait until Tuesday to see the oral surgeon for a consult - less he takes pity on me and calls me to come in today.
How are you doing today?

687 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:36:21am

re: #678 realwest

Still have some more things to install -- waiting for my copy of Office to arrive, then I need to install more games and web editing stuff -- all I need is more ways to waste time, right?

688 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:37:40am

re: #679 Sizzlack

Could you imagine that in this country. Some guy harasses a woman, and after the woman complains...the guy's excuse is "Hey, if her ass wasn't so nice, I wouldn't have to sexually harass her".

Um...no.

Well, I thought (and still think) my Lovely Wife has a nice ass, and we work together, and I'm her boss, so whenever I comment on it, that would count as harrassment, right?

689 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:37:43am

re: #681 realwest

Thanks, but I really wanted to know how YOU'RE doing!

Oh, how sweet!

I'm doing pretty well. My heart is a little bruised because of some sarcastic comments a friend made the other day. I don't think his pride will allow him to apologize, and I've learned that people who don't take my feelings seriously aren't really my friends.

690 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:37:48am

re: #531 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, okay, I get it. I just took it as another way of saying that he visited their graves.

691 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:37:55am

re: #659 realwest

Good morning to you! Uh, as someone who worked as a lawyer for over 35 years, I have to ask you this my friend: WHY THE HELL DO Y'ALL WANT TO BE A LAWYER?! You're too smart to be a lawyer and it costs too much to get a law degree just to prove that!

ha. I don't know, just want to.

/reminds me of the time I told a Jewish friend I would like to be a Jew.
He said:

What the hell for?

lol

692 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:38:07am

re: #685 jorline

Good morning BFV, Hoosier, Lucius, Mandy and goddess.

hey jorline!
what's kick'n chicken?

693 jorline  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:38:19am

re: #686 realwest

Hey jorline, hurts just as much as it did yesterday and I still gotta wait until Tuesday to see the oral surgeon for a consult - less he takes pity on me and calls me to come in today.
How are you doing today?

Well, thank you...let's hope the oral surgeon calls you in early.

694 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:38:20am

re: #670 MandyManners

Heh.

re: #671 goddessoftheclassroom

I sucked at it. Worst standardized test performance I ever had. Also the only one where I was fingerprinted to take the f*cking thing!

695 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:38:26am
696 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:38:37am

re: #662 American Jewess In Jerusalem He said, iirc, that we owe so much to our veterans who have made the ultimate sacrifice, many of whom are in the audience today!"

697 Wyatt Earp  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:38:47am

re: #688 Lucius Septimius


Nope, it would count as an "office perk."

698 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:39:39am

re: #684 christheprofessor

(Not surprising at all that a test for lawyers requires knowledge of a trick to get right -- perfect training for asshats like John Edwards)...

LOL! Too true.

I was out in the evening having a cigar and a G&T when I caught her letting her dog crap in my yard -- she didn't see me because it was dark. Let's say she was a bit embarassed.

699 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:39:49am

re: #674 ibmkeyboard

Heh. By then, the only change you'll need is of your Depends...

700 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:40:01am

Good morning folks. I hope everybody is just fine & dandy today.

I ham very grateful to Charles for pursuing the topic of ID, specifically the connections between the Creation Institute & Turkish Creationists. whatever one's personal religious beliefs about creation or evolution, the co-operation of US Christian organization with a Turkish Islamist group should be cause for great concern. Nothing good can come of it.

I have done some research myself into the background of this Turkish Creationist group and their close relationship with the ruling Islamist party, the AKP. It shouldn't surprise you to learn that the AKP has been significantly bankrolled by the Saudis or that they have deep ideological roots to the Muslim Brotherhood. Recently, the Turks have shifted their balanced Middle east policy in favor of a strong pro-Palestinian position, specifically embracing the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organization, Hamas. This op-ed from 2006 gives plenty of background:

The AKP has also been alienating Israel. A good example came earlier this year when AKP leader and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan invited the Damascus-based Hamas official Khaled Meshaal, to Ankara for meetings, despite criticism from the West and pro-Western Turks. The AKP continues to defend this visit and has kept in contact with Meshaal, while generally opposing Western efforts to isolate Hamas. The AKP has a passionate, yet bizarre, interest in all “Muslim causes.” At the beginning of the conflict in Lebanon, Erdogan gave a speech during which he lambasted Israel for trying to “wipe out the Palestinians” in Lebanon.

Erdogan’s speech has created ripple effects. The media has run virulently anti-Semitic articles—a shocking development in a country that has prided itself on saving Jews, whether those fleeing the Inquisition or Hitler.

Analysts have credibly suggested that the AKP is linked to the Muslim Brotherhood movement in the Arab world. Whereas Egypt and Jordan, who consider the Brotherhood a domestic threat, kept their distance from the Hamas government, the AKP actively courts the movement, which also happens to be the Brotherhood’s Palestinian branch.

Not only does the AKP support Muslim causes, it has an ambiguous relationship with individuals suspected of wrongdoing. In July, news broke out in Turkey that Sheikh Yassin Abdullah Qadi, a Saudi businessman blacklisted by the United Nations for funding terrorism, was an acquaintance and business partner of Erdogan and other AKP leaders. Erdogan defended Qadi, saying he trusted “Yassin Bey” (using a Turkish honorific denoting utmost respect) as much as he trusted himself.

Currently, the Turkish secularist establishment is investigating the AKP for violating the constitution by injecting Islam back into Turkish gov't. The AKP has responded by arresting several senior army officers on charges of a forming a conspiracy to overthrow the gov't.

701 Sizzlack  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:40:04am

re: #688 Lucius Septimius

Not if she doesn't complain...hehe.

702 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:40:08am

re: #688 Lucius Septimius

Well, I thought (and still think) my Lovely Wife has a nice ass, and we work together, and I'm her boss, so whenever I comment on it, that would count as harrassment, right?

It's not harassment if she likes it!

A few years ago, a couple of my 10th grade students were messing around while I was giving directions. One of them I had taught before and knew really well, so I could tease him into stopping.

I said, "Josh, stop poking Joe, or I'll have to write you up for sexual harassment."

Without missing a beat, Joe looked at me and said, "But I didn't tell him to stop."

I laughed so hard I could hardly catch my breath.

703 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:40:38am

re: #696 realwest

No matter how you cut it, he sees dead people. But than again he did start politics in Chicago.

704 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:40:49am

re: #685 jorline

Good morning BFV, Hoosier, Lucius, Mandy and goddess.

{jorline}

705 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:40:51am

re: #697 Wyatt Earp

Nope, it would count as an "office perk."


The perky parts are higher up.

706 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:41:02am

re: #668 Lucius Septimius Uh, no, not if I see him first!

707 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:41:27am

re: #685 jorline

Top of the day to you!

708 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:42:10am

re: #676 HoosierHoops

you mean the middle east Hitler photo? unfrigginbelievable..
people are so stupid!

Reminds me of the Boys of Brazil.

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

709 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:42:37am

re: #702 goddessoftheclassroom


That's rich!

710 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:42:55am
711 jorline  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:42:58am

re: #692 HoosierHoops

hey jorline!
what's kick'n chicken?

Great, thanks...don't mention chickens in front of BFV, especially when his room is vibrating again...lol...we'll have a repeat of yesterdays thread.

712 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:43:14am

re: #684 christheprofessor

I had to be gone most of the day yesterday so I dropped my dog off at my neighbor's a couple houses down. In the process, she went down one more house and crapped on the lawn (my dog, not my neighbor). They weren't there but I still trudged home and got my shovel and dutifully went over and cleaned it up...

Regarding logic problems, I always loved them as well, and am usually pretty good at them. But the type like I mentioned was something I'd never seen before (that I can recall). Only found out after the fact that there is a trick to answering them. (Not surprising at all that a test for lawyers requires knowledge of a trick to get right -- perfect training for asshats like John Edwards)...

What's the trick?

713 cpuller  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:43:36am

Pelosi called George Bush a total failure last night. Wow, if that isn't the Pot calling the Kettle Black, I don't know what is.

For all of President Bush's faults, he is nowhere near the level of incompetence personified by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

714 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:44:01am

re: #683 BlueCanuck
LOL! Indeed, the only "jody" march I remember is the one that goes "I don't know but I been told, Eskimo pu girls are very cold!"

715 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:44:27am

re: #688 Lucius Septimius

Well, I thought (and still think) my Lovely Wife has a nice ass, and we work together, and I'm her boss, so whenever I comment on it, that would count as harrassment, right?

Boy, does she have you trained!

716 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:44:36am

re: #111 hermeneutics


I'd rather convince, not anger or irritate. Gotta get them to converse.

That's me too... I much prefer to convince. The problem is trying to find ways to exemplify your point in such a way that it breaks right through their well-conditioned and very thick skulls.

717 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:44:57am
718 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:45:38am

They're doing contruction next door & I think they hit the friggin' sewer main - it stinks like nothing I've ever imagined before! I might not make it to p...

719 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:45:40am
720 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:45:50am

re: #715 MandyManners

Boy, does she have you trained!

Only at work -- outside of that she's in total control.

721 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:45:50am

re: #714 realwest

Yeah, I learned a few like that. Both neat and tidy (from the cadets), and the actual words when I went to the minor leagues. (reserves)

722 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:46:11am
723 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:46:28am

re: #689 goddessoftheclassroom {goddess} "I've learned that people who don't take my feelings seriously aren't really my friends."
Then y'all have learned a very valuable lesson. I'm just sorry it cost you so much.

724 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:46:48am

re: #696 realwest

He said, iirc, that we owe so much to our veterans who have made the ultimate sacrifice, many of whom are in the audience today!"

He didn't! Oh, dear. Well, that's pretty funny. But you don't see the MSM having a little humor at his expense over any of his verbal gaffes.

BTW, what is iirc?

725 jorline  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:47:19am

Ladies Night for Mandy and the goddess.

Have a great day.

726 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:48:40am
727 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:48:51am

re: #123 Typicalwhitey

Who is that asking Senator McCain a question at the Town Hall?

It was the aunt of a fallen soldier from Fallujah... she was asking him how he planned, as president, to get congress to co-operate with him in the war effort. He said something along the lines of just giving them irrefutable facts, and speaking rationally.

I'm not convinced that'd be enough for congress.

728 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:49:16am

This article on the recent strategy shift of the Muslim Brotherhood to engage in the political process in various Arab states makes clear the gola is not to democratize Islam, but for Islamists to gain power through elections: one man, one vote, one time.

The Crisis of the Arab Brotherhood

In both Egypt and Jordan, the Muslim Brotherhood’s participation in electoral politics has not occasioned any changes in its basic ideology or objectives. The MB remains committed to the creation of an Islamic state. It should come as no surprise, therefore, that the Egyptian MB's draft party program calls for a state ruled by sharia.

...Neutralizing American opposition to the Muslim Brotherhood is a key objective in the Egyptian MB’s plan to prepare the way for its future assumption of political power. The Brotherhood’s “Reform Initiative,” which was launched in March 2004, aimed to persuade outsiders that the Brotherhood was in fact a “moderate Islamist” movement. The MB remains unwilling, however, to pay for dialogue with the United States by making any substantial ideological or political concessions. And as the self-appointed leader of the Arab Islamic struggle, the Egyptian MB continues to hold firm to the idea that its overall project is in total conflict with that of the United States.

729 jorline  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:49:45am

re: #717 Lucius Septimius

Howdy, Jorline.

LOL...Good Morning

730 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:50:13am
731 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:51:04am

re: #700 Kenneth

Sheikh Yassin Abdullah Qadi, a Saudi businessman blacklisted by the United Nations for funding terrorism, was an acquaintance and business partner of Erdogan and other AKP leaders. Erdogan defended Qadi, saying he trusted “Yassin Bey” (using a Turkish honorific denoting utmost respect) as much as he trusted himself.

732 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:51:19am

re: #700 Kenneth Good morning Kenneth! Hope you're doing well today, but you really ought to have saved that one for one of the ID threads today, ya know?
Here's one I posted in the spinoff links:

Mexico captures submarine loaded with drugs
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican troops seized a small submarine smuggling drugs in the Pacific Ocean on Wednesday, the military said.

A navy plane spotted the craft about 140 miles south of the tourist resort of Huatulco, setting off a three-hour chase, Rear Adm. Hector Mucharraz told Reuters.

The green-colored submarine, carrying what was believed to be cocaine, was about 32 feet long and appeared to be a makeshift or modified vessel.

"The submarine traveled almost at the surface of the sea and when it came up we took advantage," said Capt. Benjamin Mar, a navy spokesman. Special forces troops swooped on the submarine from a helicopter and subdued the crew of four, he said."

I reckon that they were close to the surface cause they were so high on their cargo! LOL!

733 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:52:16am

re: #723 realwest

{goddess} "I've learned that people who don't take my feelings seriously aren't really my friends."
Then y'all have learned a very valuable lesson. I'm just sorry it cost you so much.

Thanks--in some ways, I'm more upset about this crumbling friendship than I was about my failing marriage. My EH had been a swine for a long time, but my friend has helped me get through the past year and a half. It's not so much the comment he made as that he doesn't seem to think he should say anything to me about it even though he knows it hurt my feelings.

Ah well.

734 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:52:16am

re: #656 christheprofessor

Great, just what we need -- another lawyer! ;)

I took the LSAT once -- that damn logic and reasoning section made me want to put a bullet in my head...

"Persons A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, and I are sitting in a train car. Person A can only sit next to B only if C is across from I. D can sit by F and G only if H is sitting next to E. Answer the following 10 questions:

1. Assume D is sitting on H's lap, and B is next to A. How many seating arrangements are there? (ad nauseam)"

I always worked these questions backwards from the possible answers. I figured quickly which answer(s) it could not be and then tried to figure which answer was most likely. I did pretty good on the GRE although my math was rusty. The verbal part seemed a bit easy, but then I read incessantly.

735 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:52:19am

re: #715 MandyManners

And yes, I'm very well trained.

736 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:52:22am

re: #727 rlevitin

He said something along the lines of just giving them irrefutable facts, and speaking rationally.

I'm not convinced that'd be enough for congress.

It hasn't worked so far. Not that Bush always spoke rationally... or that the media would even quote him accurately.

737 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:52:37am
738 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:53:46am
739 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:54:37am

re: #723 realwest
The World according to T. Bones Pickin':
You can't eat your way out of starvation.
You can't earn your way out of poverty.

What a load of crap he's laying on the American people.

740 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:54:39am

re: #732 realwest

Hey real!

I'm trying to start my own thread, don't ya know?

I always wanted one of those mail order submarines they advertised in the back of comic books, till I found out they were only made of cardboard.

741 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:55:50am

re: #732 realwest

Years ago I thought that a sub would be the best way to transport that sort of cargo. The things they're suing aren't true subs because they can't submerge completely.


one reason for staying close to the surface is to avoid sonar and radar.

742 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:56:32am

re: #739 EC Marm

The World according to T. Bones Pickin':
You can't eat your way out of starvation.
You can't earn your way out of poverty.

What a load of crap he's laying on the American people.

What a true idiot... in fact you can earn your way out of poverty. what you can't do is lift somebody out of poverty with welfare checks. That only traps them in poverty for generations.

743 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:57:18am

re: #733 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks--in some ways, I'm more upset about this crumbling friendship than I was about my failing marriage. My EH had been a swine for a long time, but my friend has helped me get through the past year and a half. It's not so much the comment he made as that he doesn't seem to think he should say anything to me about it even though he knows it hurt my feelings.

Ah well.

Maybe he just needs a judicious application of a clue-by-four.

744 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:57:29am

re: #739 EC Marm

The World according to T. Bones Pickin':
You can't eat your way out of starvation.
You can't earn your way out of poverty.

What a load of crap he's laying on the American people.

Typical rich "liberal" -- he's made his pile and doesn't want anyone else to.

They think they are entitled to wealth and political power -- their moral virtue qualifies them to be the aristocracy.

More of the same from the party of "the People"

745 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:58:12am

Huh, LGF just went weirod on me!
re: #724 American Jewess In Jerusalem iirc, means "if I remember correctly". Internet short hand.

746 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:58:44am
747 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:59:16am

re: #743 MandyManners

Maybe he just needs a judicious application of a clue-by-four.

OMG, that is so funny! How I wish...I'm just not sure that our friendship means as much to him as it does to me.

748 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:59:53am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. It's not surprising that Palestinian terrorists might have wanted to assassinate President Bush or that they may have tried to contact al Qaeda. Even less surprising is that they were operating out of the al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem.

And Palestinians whine and seethe that the Israelis bust up "charities and services." Considering how many of those "charities and services" are little more than cover for terrorist operations, the Israelis have good reason to bust them.

749 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:00:28am

re: #727 rlevitin It was Typcialwhitey! See further down in the thread!

750 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:02:10am

re: #715 MandyManners

Boy, does she have you trained!

Mrs. Texan and I celebrated our twentieth anniversary yesterday.

And it's more like "broke in" than trained. ;)

/she'd be getting out now, LOL

751 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:03:34am

re: #747 goddessoftheclassroom

OMG, that is so funny! How I wish...I'm just not sure that our friendship means as much to him as it does to me.

Okay, this is super weirod: I just got a text from him saying, "I am sorry my sarcasm hurt yesterday."

I'm in a quasi-state of shock...

752 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:03:39am

Anyone seen BenHur?

BEN HUR WHERE ARE YOU BEN HUR?

753 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:04:04am

re: #712 MandyManners

What's the trick?

You'll have to ask Lucius -- I just read that there was one, but I never learned what it was...

754 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:04:24am

re: #739 EC Marm
Hey, good morning EC! Yep, especially cause, as I understand it, good ole boy T. Boone has HUGE investments in alternative energy companies. He stopped being an "oil man" waaaay back after he'd made his first couple of billion dollars.
That's why I'd like to punch his lights out. DELIBERATELY misleading the American People for personal gain with that ad! Who's he think he is, a politician?!

755 Dustoff-507  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:04:59am

"Realwest"

Your listening to Roger Miller?

756 phoenixgirl  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:05:16am

glad you are safe

757 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:05:47am

While the people of North Korea struggle to find grass & tree bark to eat, Pharoah Kim is planning on spending 10 billion dollars to refurbish the Hotel of Doom.

758 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:05:48am

re: #752 WriterMom

Anyone seen BenHur?

Oh sure, I've seen Ben Hur. I loved the chariot race!

759 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:06:06am

re: #741 Lucius Septimius "one reason for staying close to the surface is to avoid sonar and radar."
Uh, what did you say you do for a living again?!?
LOL!
I never woulda thought of that in a million years!

760 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:06:39am

re: #734 David IV of Georgia

I always worked these questions backwards from the possible answers. I figured quickly which answer(s) it could not be and then tried to figure which answer was most likely. I did pretty good on the GRE although my math was rusty. The verbal part seemed a bit easy, but then I read incessantly.

Yes, my guess is that's the trick -- a quick check of the possible permutations or combinations (whatever the hell it is) should help to eliminate possible answers....

761 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:07:15am

re: #636 ibmkeyboard

Utah?

Always wanted to visit Utah.

In the news about a tour bus burning up in the valley, no one hurt,
even the news man said "such a beautiful place"

Utah is awesome. Some really nice folks, and the scenery can't be beat.

Some of my favorite places are there (Zion, Bryce, Capitol Reef, the Wasatch) - and there's a few places I still want to get to (Moab, Natural Bridge, Arches, Canyonlands). It's an outdoors/photographer's dream.

762 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:07:46am

re: #746 taxfreekiller
Good morning TFK - I like that idea - a LOT! LOL!

763 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:08:11am

re: #747 goddessoftheclassroom

OMG, that is so funny! How I wish...I'm just not sure that our friendship means as much to him as it does to me.

I hate to be sexist but, sometimes guys just don't understand emotional stuff.

764 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:08:12am

re: #742 Kenneth

What a true idiot... in fact you can earn your way out of poverty. what you can't do is lift somebody out of poverty with welfare checks. That only traps them in poverty for generations.


True.
I'm all for more solar and wind, but his inane statement about drilling, which will probably be picked up as a mantra by the Dems, is not going to put cheaper gasoline in anyones tank, whether they're rich or poor.
Hell, I live in a passive solar house, but it added a ton of money to the initial construction costs. It is not a cheaper design and requires more materials, time and labor, and insulation.

765 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:08:15am

re: #173 Typicalwhitey

Click on McCain answers questions
The second questioner is me.

Wow, thats crazy... I saw this on CNN, I was home for lunch and caught maybe 15 minutes... never in a million years would I have thought, "hmm, that lady is a Lizard"!

So cool =)

What'd u think of him (maybe you answered this, I'm taking my time working down-thread)

766 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:08:34am

re: #758 Kenneth

{WHACK}

I mean OUR Ben Hur.

767 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:08:47am

re: #760 christheprofessor

Yes, my guess is that's the trick -- a quick check of the possible permutations or combinations (whatever the hell it is) should help to eliminate possible answers....

The hard thing about College Board test such as the SAT and GRE is that one of the 5 choices is an intentional "distractor" (that's its real name) that is almost correct.

Plus there's a 1/4 point deduction for a wrong answer.

768 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:09:01am

re: #751 goddessoftheclassroom

Okay, this is super weirod: I just got a text from him saying, "I am sorry my sarcasm hurt yesterday."

I'm in a quasi-state of shock...

Ah! One who does get it!

769 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:09:34am

re: #759 realwest

"one reason for staying close to the surface is to avoid sonar and radar."
Uh, what did you say you do for a living again?!?
LOL!
I never woulda thought of that in a million years!

Don't forget I'm a navy brat and spent a lot of time around submariners.

770 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:09:40am

re: #750 OldLineTexan
Hey, congratulations on you're 20th anniversary!
I only made it to 16 I'm afraid.
Lost the instruction manual somewhere in the 15th year I reckon.

771 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:10:16am
772 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:10:17am

re: #751 goddessoftheclassroom Huh, maybe he reads LGF!

773 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:10:38am

re: #741 Lucius Septimius

The things they're suing aren't true subs

It's bad enough that some want to take a "law enforcement approach" to terrorism; but now we're taking a "civil torts approach" to drug trafficking!

:P

Good morning.

774 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:10:49am

re: #764 EC Marm

True.
I'm all for more solar and wind, but his inane statement about drilling, which will probably be picked up as a mantra by the Dems, is not going to put cheaper gasoline in anyones tank, whether they're rich or poor.
Hell, I live in a passive solar house, but it added a ton of money to the initial construction costs. It is not a cheaper design and requires more materials, time and labor, and insulation.

I'd ask whose pocket Pickens is in but, I read above that he's heavily invested in wind/solar companies.

775 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:10:50am

re: #759 realwest

"one reason for staying close to the surface is to avoid sonar and radar."
Uh, what did you say you do for a living again?!?
LOL!
I never woulda thought of that in a million years!

It's the same reason (sans the sonar) that the drug smugglers in their small planes fly nape-of-the-earth. Harder to "see", and not the normal place to operate.

Plus these drug "subs" are not actually capable of submerging very far at all. This simplifies the equipment needed.

776 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:10:56am

re: #763 MandyManners

I hate to be sexist but, sometimes guys just don't understand emotional stuff.

Actually we do, but we tend to process that sort of information differently.

777 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:11:18am

re: #767 goddessoftheclassroom

The hard thing about College Board test such as the SAT and GRE is that one of the 5 choices is an intentional "distractor" (that's its real name) that is almost correct.

Plus there's a 1/4 point deduction for a wrong answer.

Heh. I do the "distractor" thing when I make up multiple guess tests...

778 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:11:45am

re: #767 goddessoftheclassroom

The hard thing about College Board test such as the SAT and GRE is that one of the 5 choices is an intentional "distractor" (that's its real name) that is almost correct.

Plus there's a 1/4 point deduction for a wrong answer.

And always beware of the fourth choice.

779 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:12:00am

re: #763 MandyManners

I hate to be sexist but, sometimes guys just don't understand emotional stuff.

I know that's true, and I refuse to play the "read my mind" game. I was upset because I told him in a text yesterday his comment hurt, but he didn't reply. Of course he may not have seen it until this morning (I have no idea) or he did see it yesterday and he had to struggle with his pride, but I don't care now!

780 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:12:01am

re: #774 MandyManners

I'd ask whose pocket Pickens is in but, I read above that he's heavily invested in wind/solar companies.

Solar + wind = hot air.

781 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:12:16am

re: #764 EC Marm

True.
I'm all for more solar and wind, but his inane statement about drilling, which will probably be picked up as a mantra by the Dems, is not going to put cheaper gasoline in anyones tank, whether they're rich or poor.
Hell, I live in a passive solar house, but it added a ton of money to the initial construction costs. It is not a cheaper design and requires more materials, time and labor, and insulation.

I live in a passive solar house, too. From April to October, we heat the house toasty warm with nothing but solar energy!

/

782 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:13:03am

re: #773 Occasional Reader

It's bad enough that some want to take a "law enforcement approach" to terrorism; but now we're taking a "civil torts approach" to drug trafficking!

:P

Good morning.

Mornin, OR.

Typed that one handed while feeding the baby, so use me!

783 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:13:22am

re: #776 Lucius Septimius

Actually we do, but we tend to process that sort of information differently.

I'm trying hard to figure out The Kid.

784 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:13:30am

re: #775 OldLineTexan

Plus these drug "subs" are not actually capable of submerging very far at all.

I'm thinking that's the real reason, not some highly sophisticated plan for evading sonar. I've never seen "run noisy, run shallow" described as a terribly successful sub survival tactic.

785 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:13:33am

re: #763 MandyManners

I hate to be sexist but, sometimes guys just don't understand emotional stuff.

"Just because I don't care doesn't mean that I don't understand."
Homer Simpson

786 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:13:54am
787 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:13:56am

re: #777 christheprofessor

Heh. I do the "distractor" thing when I make up multiple guess tests...


Hell -- all of my tests are distractions. I really grade them on the quality of their pre-class conversational skills.

788 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:14:22am

re: #751 goddessoftheclassroom

Okay, this is super weirod: I just got a text from him saying, "I am sorry my sarcasm hurt yesterday."

I'm in a quasi-state of shock...

Some people go through brief states of jerkiness, idiocy and cluelessness. People forget the boundaries of social etiquette sometimes. If his hurtful comments were out of character, assume he was having a bad day and let it pass. If this is something that commonly occurs, then decide whether he is really the friend you hope him to be.

An example of me being a jerk: In third grade, my girlfriend turned out to be a controlling monster—a really, really cute controlling monster. I wasn't very clear on what boyfriend/girlfriend meant at the time and had no clue as to how one should end such a relationship. So I kicked her really hard and ran off.

789 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:14:33am

re: #779 goddessoftheclassroom

I know that's true, and I refuse to play the "read my mind" game. I was upset because I told him in a text yesterday his comment hurt, but he didn't reply. Of course he may not have seen it until this morning (I have no idea) or he did see it yesterday and he had to struggle with his pride, but I don't care now!

At least he came through!

790 pingjockey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:14:42am

They aren't true subs. Seeing the pic of the one, they must've seen it from the air, because there's no way the radar or sonar saw it or heard it.

791 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:14:57am

re: #772 realwest

Huh, maybe he reads LGF!

I don't think he does, but that would be so funny! To be fair, he sent his message before I posted about the situation--I didn't have my phone with me, so I hadn't seem the text.

This is the same guy I went to those galas with.

792 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:15:07am

re: #787 Lucius Septimius

Hell -- all of my tests are distractions. I really grade them on the quality of their pre-class conversational skills.

Post-class, post-beer conversational skills?

793 Dustoff-507  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:15:12am

Morning all.

I won't be posting with you all
(LGF) is having some problems for me when I log in? weird.

O-well have a great weekend.

794 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:15:23am

re: #774 MandyManners

I'd ask whose pocket Pickens is in but, I read above that he's heavily invested in wind/solar companies.

That in and of itself doesn't really prove anything, necessarily. Someone with a lot of money to invest, and a sincere belief that wind & solar are the future, could be reasonably expected to invest in wind and solar.

Anyway, now that the Goreacle has spoken, within ten years (why not two, says I? Or by next Tuesday?) all our energy will come from wind, solar, and unicorn farts.

795 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:15:37am

re: #784 Occasional Reader

I'm thinking that's the real reason, not some highly sophisticated plan for evading sonar. I've never seen "run noisy, run shallow" described as a terribly successful sub survival tactic.


They are designed (like all drug boats) to be expendable and are improvised with stolen materials. That said, keeping the radar signature low is key, and being able to submerge enough to avoid being seen by small patrol vessels is an asset.

796 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:15:40am

re: #780 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Solar + wind = hot air.

Who's Pickens' friends?

797 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:16:08am

re: #785 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Just because I don't care doesn't mean that I don't understand."
Homer Simpson

Homer, the model of maturity.

798 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:16:21am

re: #785 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Just because I don't care doesn't mean that I don't understand."
Homer Simpson

"Oh, she had the usual complaints... 'you never listen to me', blahblahblah..."

-I can't remember who said this

799 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:16:37am

re: #755 Dustoff-507
Hey my friend! Good morning to you! No, I just played it for BFV, who mentioned the song in one of his posts!
Now me, I'm more of this:[Link: www.imeem.com...]

LOL!

800 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:16:42am

re: #789 MandyManners
Just for you.

801 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:16:43am

re: #792 christheprofessor

Post-class, post-beer conversational skills?

That's in the 400-level courses.

802 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:16:57am

re: #791 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't think he does, but that would be so funny! To be fair, he sent his message before I posted about the situation--I didn't have my phone with me, so I hadn't seem the text.

This is the same guy I went to those galas with.

I was just about to ask that.

803 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:17:01am

re: #784 Occasional Reader

I'm thinking that's the real reason, not some highly sophisticated plan for evading sonar. I've never seen "run noisy, run shallow" described as a terribly successful sub survival tactic.

But they are where (almost) no one is looking. Coast Guard and Navy are looking at the surface and for subs. I think they catch these things with aircraft ("Wow, that's a weird whale!")
/

804 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:17:04am

re: #763 MandyManners

I hate to be sexist but, sometimes guys just don't understand emotional stuff.

I'm a guy and I resemble that. Don't tell anyone but really violent, psychotic war movies about real events make me cry.

805 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:17:38am

Did somebody mention windmills? (pay close attention at about 16 seconds in)

806 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:17:45am

re: #794 Occasional Reader

I've been saying this since yesterday and the reports on his speech, but he's proposing solar, wind, geothermal, and clean coal.

That last part got my attention.

Of course, Gore's still full of hot air, but he's deflated a bit especially as the science skewers his nonsensical ravings.

807 Syrah  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:18:07am

re: #153 George Slivers

Good papers don't need rely on the "Darwon of the Gaps" cliche to explain their data

I put a link to the book I am citing here in the spin-offs above.

For George, the important paragraph is the last.

Theological Objections to ID

So, scientifically, ID fails to hold up, providing neither an opportunity for experimental validation nor a robust foundation for its primary claim of irreducible complexity. More than that, however, ID also fails in a way that should be more of a concern to the believer than to the hard-nosed scientist. ID is a ‘God of the gaps’ theory, inserting a supposition of the need for supernatural intervention in places that its proponents claim science cannot explain. Various cultures have traditionally tried to ascribe to God various natural phenomena that the science of the day had been unable to sort out — whether a solar eclipse or the beauty of a flower. But those theories have a dismal history. Advances in science ultimately fill in those gaps, to the dismay of those who had attached their faith to them. Ultimately a ‘God of the gaps’ religion runs a huge risk of simply discrediting faith. We must not repeat this mistake in the current era. Intelligent design fits into this discouraging tradition, and faces the same ultimate demise.”
Furthermore, ID portrays the Almighty as a clumsy Creator, having to intervene at regular intervals to fix the inadequacies of His own initial plan for generating the complexity of life. For a believer who stands in awe of the almost unimaginable intelligence and creative genius of God, this is very unsatisfactory.

Page 193

The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief (Hardcover)
by Francis S. Collins (Author)
# Hardcover: 304 pages
# Publisher: Free Press; 1 edition (July 11, 2006)
# Language: English
# ISBN-10: 0743286391
# ISBN-13: 978-0743286398

808 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:18:29am

re: #794 Occasional Reader

That in and of itself doesn't really prove anything, necessarily. Someone with a lot of money to invest, and a sincere belief that wind & solar are the future, could be reasonably expected to invest in wind and solar.

Anyway, now that the Goreacle has spoken, within ten years (why not two, says I? Or by next Tuesday?) all our energy will come from wind, solar, and unicorn farts.

Well, if I had invested in it, I'd be touting it heavily.

Unicorn farts? Do they smell like dandelions?

809 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:18:34am

re: #776 Lucius Septimius

Also, a lot of the emotional stuff is pretty fucking boring and repetitive, and should be shared with girlfriends or sisters, not men. LOL!

810 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:18:53am

re: #796 MandyManners

Who's Pickens' friends?

Pickens is like Soros. He can buy the friends he needs, and he has enough money to be El Jefe Grande.

811 CIA Reject  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:18:58am

re: #744 Lucius Septimius

Typical rich "liberal" -- he's made his pile and doesn't want anyone else to.

They think they are entitled to wealth and political power -- their moral virtue qualifies them to be the aristocracy.

More of the same from the party of "the People"

Old saying from back home: "A homesteader is somebody who wants a house in the woods, and an environmentalist is somebody who already has one."

/Good Morning Everybody!

812 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:19:29am

re: #807 Syrah

Furthermore, ID portrays the Almighty as a clumsy Creator, having to intervene at regular intervals to fix the inadequacies of His own initial plan for generating the complexity of life. For a believer who stands in awe of the almost unimaginable intelligence and creative genius of God, this is very unsatisfactory.

Exactly. Thank you for posting that.

813 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:19:53am

re: #800 EC Marm

Just for you.

ROFLMAO! I might post that on my blog.

814 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:19:53am

re: #805 christheprofessor
Holy shit!
Someone didn't lock it down BEFORE the storm!

815 Alouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:20:12am

re: #767 goddessoftheclassroom

The hard thing about College Board test such as the SAT and GRE is that one of the 5 choices is an intentional "distractor" (that's its real name) that is almost correct.

Plus there's a 1/4 point deduction for a wrong answer.

My daughter got 1550 on her GRE.

816 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:20:16am

re: #794 Occasional Reader

unicorn farts

You crack me up. ROFL.

817 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:20:22am
818 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:20:26am

re: #808 MandyManners

Unicorn farts?

819 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:20:41am

re: #781 OldLineTexanUm, how do y'all get groceries in?

820 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:20:57am
821 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:21:08am

re: #805 christheprofessor

At 17 seconds, it would appear that one of the windmill's three blades disintegrates, causing the entire structure to break apart. Can't tell from the video whether something struck the blade or not, or whether that hum was due to increasing wind speeds that the turbine simply couldn't handle.

822 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:21:38am

re: #804 David IV of Georgia

I'm a guy and I resemble that. Don't tell anyone but really violent, psychotic war movies about real events make me cry.

Deep, man. Deep.

823 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:21:40am

re: #782 Lucius Septimius

Wimp. You're using a bottle.

Try keeping abreast of LGF while breastfeeding.

824 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:21:48am
825 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:21:55am

re: #802 MandyManners

We both are raising sons to be gentlemen. I've consistently demonstrated that a mature person admits a mistake, apologizes, tries to fix it, and tries not to make it again. A mature person also apologizes when a misunderstanding has hurt someone's feelings.

At the same time, a mature person doesn't pout and refuse to discuss what's bothering him (or her). My mother played the "read my mind" game, and I hated it, and I have NEVER done that with my own kids.

My 16-year-old is a terrific boyfriend now. I'm just hoping he's getting to the point that he stops taking out his anger against his father on me. He is trying to do stop.

826 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:21:56am

re: #813 MandyManners

Hey, that reminds me -- where is your blog? (you can just email the link if you want)

827 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:22:02am

re: #805 christheprofessor

Did somebody mention windmills? (pay close attention at about 16 seconds in)

That appears to be a purposeful test.

Or a really poor design.

Most of those things can "feather" the blades to decrease rotational speed in high winds, and also have clutch devices to increase slippage so that high winds don't run components past their rated speeds.

828 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:22:49am

re: #823 WriterMom

Wimp. You're using a bottle.

Try keeping abreast of LGF while breastfeeding.


Ummm -- that would be tough in my case.

829 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:22:52am

re: #788 David IV of Georgia "So I kicked her really hard and ran off."
I bet that worked, too! LOL! Seriously, I'm ROTFLMAO!

830 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:22:59am

re: #815 Alouette

My daughter got 1550 on her GRE.

That is SUPERB! What does she want to study?

831 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:23:05am

re: #810 OldLineTexan

Pickens is like Soros. He can buy the friends he needs, and he has enough money to be El Jefe Grande.

I wonder if they know each other.

832 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:23:26am

re: #820 buzzsawmonkey

Half-black and half-white counts as "medium," I think.

LOL! ! !

833 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:23:44am

re: #805 christheprofessor

Did somebody mention windmills? (pay close attention at about 16 seconds in)

What caused that?

834 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:24:00am

re: #791 goddessoftheclassroom Well whatever, I'm glad he's finally seen the light! Hurts like hell to lose a really good friend.

835 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:24:51am

re: #828 Lucius Septimius

I know-who cares?! I'm just pointing out female superiority in the post...

/duh

836 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:24:57am

re: #818 Lucius Septimius

Unicorn farts?

Unicorns say "freakin'"?

837 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:25:06am

re: #793 Dustoff-507
Yeah, I've had trouble posting and then having to log in again too - y'all ought to hang in here for a while though - I'm sure Charles' will fix it!

838 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:25:22am

re: #819 realwest

Um, how do y'all get groceries in?

April to October is summer where I live.

/these are the jokes, folks

I carry the groceries in through the back door, unless I can find the boy, in which case HE carries the groceries in through the back door while I try to stuff the milk into the fridge before it boils...

839 Fish-Man  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:25:26am

FYI, 'Academic Search' finds no articles with 'George' and 'Silvers' in their authorship.

840 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:25:28am

re: #814 reloadingisnotahobby

Let's hope T. Boone owned that one....

re: #821 lawhawk

My impression was that a blade bent back just enough to strike the tower (there's a big dent as it topple over) but it really is hard to tell...

841 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:25:38am

You all have probably already seen this, but just in case:

Americans for Prosperity Crashes Al Gore's Speech

AND:
The American Physical Society, an organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists, has reversed its stance on climate change and is now proclaiming that many of its members disbelieve in human-induced global warming. The APS is also sponsoring public debate on the validity of global warming science. The leadership of the society had previously called the evidence for global warming “incontrovertible.”

In a posting to the APS forum, editor Jeffrey Marque explains,"There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution.”
HAHA!

842 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:26:10am

re: #823 WriterMom

Wimp. You're using a bottle.

Try keeping abreast of LGF while breastfeeding.

Some of the stuff I read on here would've curdled my milk.

843 Alouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:26:12am

re: #830 goddessoftheclassroom

That is SUPERB! What does she want to study?

Well, her undergrad is in psychology. She is considering nursing school, I told her forget that, apply to med school! However she is in her 30's and has 6 kids.

844 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:26:14am
845 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:26:18am

re: #827 OldLineTexan

That appears to be a purposeful test.

Or a really poor design.

Most of those things can "feather" the blades to decrease rotational speed in high winds, and also have clutch devices to increase slippage so that high winds don't run components past their rated speeds.

You are probably right -- maybe that's why the camera was on it in the first place...

846 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:26:20am

Goddess,

In my experience, men & women have completely different styles of dealing with ""emotional problems".

When a woman talks about "emotional problems", other women will respond by expressing similar feelings. This builds a bond of shared experience and sympathy.

When a man talks about "emotional problems" with other men, his friends will respond with problem salving advice (good or bad, depending). For men, this shows your friends care and are willing to help.

The problem when a women talks to a man about "emotional problems" is that the man will respond by with advice to fix the problem. To the woman this can sound like unsympathetic lecturing.

847 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:26:28am

re: #828 Lucius Septimius

Ummm -- that would be tough in my case.

Much harder on the baby than you, actually.

Old Benny Hill line, paraphased: I was a sickly child; my mother died giving me birth, ad I was breast-fed by my father.

848 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:26:39am

re: #834 realwest

Well whatever, I'm glad he's finally seen the light! Hurts like hell to lose a really good friend.

Oh, so true! But I also know that I can't put up with being treated badly.

In my situation with my EH and his parents, it's clear that their pride is far more important than any relationship with my boys or me, and the loss is theirs. My kids have had to deal with feelings of betrayal and rejections, but they're getting through it.

As a result, I cannot let myself be close to someone who doesn't care enough about my feelings to apologize.

849 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:27:03am

re: #806 lawhawk

Of course, Gore's still full of hot air, but he's deflated a bit especially as the science skewers his nonsensical ravings.

I like the guy in the "hypocritical Gore acolytes" video you linked to, who enthusiastically said we should "progressively" raise the price of gasoline. I guess everything is okay if it's done "progressively".

850 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:27:28am

re: #833 MandyManners

What caused that?

Unicorn farts?

851 phoenixgirl  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:27:30am

re: #842 MandyManners

tea is on computer screen

852 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:27:48am

re: #844 buzzsawmonkey

Somebody needs to do a Don Quixote & Sancho Panza thing about wind power, in which Don Quixote gets into how wind power will provide our alternate energy needs, and Sancho explains to Quixote, after he's been thrown to the ground a few times, that it won't.

How come "Quixote" is pronounced "key-ho-tay", but "Quixotic" is pronounced "kwiks-ot-ick?" Shouldn't it be "key-ho-tick"?

853 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:27:49am

re: #825 goddessoftheclassroom

We both are raising sons to be gentlemen. I've consistently demonstrated that a mature person admits a mistake, apologizes, tries to fix it, and tries not to make it again. A mature person also apologizes when a misunderstanding has hurt someone's feelings.

At the same time, a mature person doesn't pout and refuse to discuss what's bothering him (or her). My mother played the "read my mind" game, and I hated it, and I have NEVER done that with my own kids.

My 16-year-old is a terrific boyfriend now. I'm just hoping he's getting to the point that he stops taking out his anger against his father on me. He is trying to do stop.

Well, bless your heart!

BTW, is your son old enough to initiate contact with his FINO?

854 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:28:11am

re: #831 MandyManners

I wonder if they know each other.

We should arrange to have them meet in California, and let "nature" take its course.

/

855 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:28:21am

The Pickens Plan. I can see the Dems going over the cliff spending trillions on this stuff. Raise taxes by a 10 trillion and spend 2 trillion on further research.

856 Alouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:28:22am

re: #842 MandyManners

Some of the stuff I read on here would've curdled my milk.

You have milk? I would have thought single malt flows from your breasts.

857 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:28:34am

re: #842 MandyManners

Some of the stuff I read on here would've curdled my milk.

Yeah, you can get really cheesed around here.

858 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:28:57am

re: #840 christheprofessor

Years ago I worked for a contractor in Palm Springs Ca.
We poured the massive footings for those things!
Depending on the soil,some were thirty to forty yards of cement and steel!
Thousands of them in P.S. area.

859 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:29:14am

re: #808 MandyManners

Well, if I had invested in it, I'd be touting it heavily.

Unicorn farts? Do they smell like dandelions?

Wow. Just git hit with huge deja vu reading this exchange. Did we have exactly this conversation before?

860 Spenser (with an S)  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:29:17am

re: #812 Kenneth

re: #807 Syrah

Furthermore, ID portrays the Almighty as a clumsy Creator, having to intervene at regular intervals to fix the inadequacies of His own initial plan for generating the complexity of life. For a believer who stands in awe of the almost unimaginable intelligence and creative genius of God, this is very unsatisfactory.

Exactly. Thank you for posting that.

I think it's important to separate the ID Movement as a political and cultural group from the notion of an Intelligent Designer. They're louder but we're smarter!

861 pingjockey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:29:32am

re: #842 MandyManners
How late did you stay on last night slapping that shotgun poster around?

862 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:29:51am

re: #843 Alouette

Well, her undergrad is in psychology. She is considering nursing school, I told her forget that, apply to med school! However she is in her 30's and has 6 kids.

(applauding with awe) What a wonderful woman.

FWIW, nursing may be the better calling in terms of time needed to qualify, internships, and work hours. Good nurses are one of the greatest blessings. I could never be one--I don't have the talent and character traits required--so I respect and admire nurses all the more,

863 CIA Reject  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:29:58am

re: #812 Kenneth


re: #807 Syrah

Furthermore, ID portrays the Almighty as a clumsy Creator, having to intervene at regular intervals to fix the inadequacies of His own initial plan for generating the complexity of life. For a believer who stands in awe of the almost unimaginable intelligence and creative genius of God, this is very unsatisfactory.


Exactly. Thank you for posting that.

Agree entirely. The more I see of this ID stuff the more I am reminded of an old book by Geoffrey Atkinson entitled "The Creation Memos": a supposed collection of correspondence between G*d and the contractor he hired to do the work of building Creation.

The upshot: all of the problems of the Universe are due to the low bidder getting the job.

It's a very funny read, but it's FICTION. These ID folks are trying to make it into fact.

864 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:30:02am

re: #852 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

WHOA!

Never thought of that!

865 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:30:29am

re: #811 CIA Reject
Good morning back atcha! Good one to start the day!

866 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:31:16am

re: #856 Alouette

Good LORD.

For a Bubbie, you got some pretty cheesy humour going on....

867 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:31:24am

re: #858 reloadingisnotahobby

Years ago I worked for a contractor in Palm Springs Ca.
We poured the massive footings for those things!
Depending on the soil,some were thirty to forty yards of cement and steel!
Thousands of them in P.S. area.

I've seen your work!

868 pingjockey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:31:35am

re: #858 reloadingisnotahobby
We have a whole bunch of them here in eastern Wa. Get a fairly consistent wind from the east slope of the Cascades into the Columbia basin.

869 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:31:40am

re: #826 Lucius Septimius

Just sent.

870 maddogg  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:31:46am

re: #763 MandyManners

I hate to be sexist but, sometimes guys just don't understand emotional stuff.


Heh....

871 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:31:57am

re: #852 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How come "Quixote" is pronounced "key-ho-tay", but "Quixotic" is pronounced "kwiks-ot-ick?" Shouldn't it be "key-ho-tick"?

One's Spanish, and the other is an English term based on the Spanish noun.

872 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:32:25am

re: #839 Fish-Man

FYI, 'Academic Search' finds no articles with 'George' and 'Silvers' in their authorship.

I think his last name is "Slivers".

873 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:32:49am

re: #858 reloadingisnotahobby

My buddy just transitioned from nuke plant maintenance into the wind turbine stuff. Loves it...

874 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:32:53am

re: #869 MandyManners

Thanky kindly!

875 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:33:16am

re: #808 MandyManners

Well, if I had invested in it, I'd be touting it heavily.

Unicorn farts? Do they smell like dandelions?

Well, Obama should know.

876 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:33:37am

re: #853 MandyManners

Well, bless your heart!

BTW, is your son old enough to initiate contact with his FINO?

[Oh, I like that acronym! My Baby Lizard refers to him as Parental Unit (Unit for short) and gets mad if I slip and refer to him as "your father." My Lizard-in-Training refers to him as "Pere Mauvais," which is French for "Bad Father"]

My attorney wrote to his attorney 5 weeks ago asking him to set up weekly supervised visitations. We haven't heard a word.

877 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:33:48am

re: #867 OldLineTexan

Good!
That means there still standing!LOL
Must add that to my resume!

878 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:33:53am

re: #846 Kenneth

Goddess,

In my experience, men & women have completely different styles of dealing with ""emotional problems".

When a woman talks about "emotional problems", other women will respond by expressing similar feelings. This builds a bond of shared experience and sympathy.

When a man talks about "emotional problems" with other men, his friends will respond with problem salving advice (good or bad, depending). For men, this shows your friends care and are willing to help.

The problem when a women talks to a man about "emotional problems" is that the man will respond by with advice to fix the problem. To the woman this can sound like unsympathetic lecturing.

I reckon I'm a mix. I sympathize, and then offer solutions.

879 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:34:34am

re: #850 christheprofessor

Unicorn farts?

LOL!

I wonder how high the methane content.

880 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:34:37am

re: #839 Fish-Man
Didja look up Octopuss ( a former LGFer who never tired of telling us all how intellectually superior he was to all of us until someone cut him down to the size of a pea)

881 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:34:39am

re: #852 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How come "Quixote" is pronounced "key-ho-tay", but "Quixotic" is pronounced "kwiks-ot-ick?" Shouldn't it be "key-ho-tick"?

Porque los pinche gringos masacran la lengua de Cervantes.

882 pingjockey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:34:55am

re: #875 Honorary Yooper
I've heard they smell like cotton candy and rainbows.

883 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:34:59am

re: #851 phoenixgirl

tea is on computer screen

Sorry!

884 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:35:43am

re: #862 goddessoftheclassroom

(applauding with awe) What a wonderful woman.

FWIW, nursing may be the better calling in terms of time needed to qualify, internships, and work hours. Good nurses are one of the greatest blessings. I could never be one--I don't have the talent and character traits required--so I respect and admire nurses all the more,

I've heard that if one is going into the medical fields, dentistry is the way to go these days -- pretty good money and the liability insurance is relatively low. Then again, I always figured that if I was going to make my living in somebody else's mouth, I'd just be a pr0n star (I actually auditioned, but I, um, just didn't measure up)...

885 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:35:45am

re: #854 OldLineTexan

We should arrange to have them meet in California, and let "nature" take its course.

/

Oh, goodness. That really blows my mind considering the link to the Lemon party someone posted here the other day.

Ick.

886 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:35:57am

re: #873 christheprofessor

Had the chance to go up!
Man! my "boy's" were up in my abdomen somewhere!
Approx 150 ' !

887 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:35:59am

re: #881 Occasional Reader

Porque los pinche gringos masacran la lengua de Cervantes.

Tsk tsk. Mexican slang in defence of Cervantes.

You'll have to resubmit that in proper Castilian Spanish.

888 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:36:12am
889 pingjockey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:36:23am