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Krauthammer: The Audacity of Vanity

Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 9:44:04 am PDT

Charles Krauthammer, as usual, hits the nail precisely on the head: The Audacity of Vanity.

Barack Obama wants to speak at the Brandenburg Gate. He figures it would be a nice backdrop. The supporting cast — a cheering audience and a few fainting frauleins — would be a picturesque way to bolster his foreign policy credentials.

What Obama does not seem to understand is that the Brandenburg Gate is something you earn. President Ronald Reagan earned the right to speak there because his relentless pressure had brought the Soviet empire to its knees and he was demanding its final “tear down this wall” liquidation. When President John F. Kennedy visited the Brandenburg Gate on the day of his “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech, he was representing a country that was prepared to go to the brink of nuclear war to defend West Berlin.

Who is Obama representing? And what exactly has he done in his lifetime to merit appropriating the Brandenburg Gate as a campaign prop? What was his role in the fight against communism, the liberation of Eastern Europe, the creation of what George Bush the elder — who presided over the fall of the Berlin Wall but modestly declined to go there for a victory lap — called “a Europe whole and free”?

Does Obama not see the incongruity? It’s as if a German pol took a campaign trip to America and demanded the Statue of Liberty as a venue for a campaign speech. (The Germans have now gently nudged Obama into looking at other venues.)

Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself.

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1 noshariaincanada  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:44:50am

Yes ! the Obama thread !

2 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:45:31am

His arrogance can really piss a person off.

3 noshariaincanada  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:45:51am
Who is Obama representing?

Uh, George Soros.

4 Maximu§  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:46:06am

Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself.

We lizards noticed it a long time ago.

5 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:46:10am

b.o. is becoming an embarrassment around the world.

6 mikalm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:46:20am

He's not a leader like JFK or RWR -- he just plays one on television!

7 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:47:26am

re: #6 mikalm

He's not a leader like JFK or RWR -- he just plays one on television!

An inept summer replacement.

8 jamgarr  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:47:46am

I want Charles Krauthammer's son to marry Victor Davis Hanson's daughter and give birth to the 50th POTUS.

9 bosforus  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:47:54am

Big head + hot air = best hot air balloon ever.

10 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:48:05am
11 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:48:23am

re: #8 jamgarr

I want Charles Krauthammer's son to marry Victor Davis Hanson's daughter and give birth to the 50th POTUS.

What a wonderful plan!

12 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:48:35am

I think I read that the location of big O's speech has been changed.

13 maddogg  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:48:54am

re: #6 mikalm

He's not a leader like JFK or RWR -- he just plays one on television!


I thought he was playing Jimmah Carter,

14 Crusader Rabbit  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:49:09am

IMO the real chutzpah of this man is to send his America-hating wife out on the campaign trail and then complain when her words are criticised.

15 RickZ  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:49:45am

re: #2 Noam Sayin'

His arrogance can really piss a person off.

His arrogance coupled with his whineyness (sp?), like when it comes to the WAB who stumps for him, gets to me. That arrogance/whiney combo platter must a liberal thing. With any luck, America will see through him and keep his @ss in the Senate, not that he belongs there at all. But better there than the Oval Office.

16 zombie  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:49:51am

Speaking of the Audacity of Vanity:

What Would Al Gore Do?

Spotted at a natural foods store in an undisclosed location in the San Francisco Bay Area:

[WWAGD tote bag]

If you ever had any doubts that Al Gore is now the messianic figure of a Global Warming Religion, this should dispel them.

The message on the bag is not poking fun at Al Gore. It is completely serious.

17 Spider Mensch  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:49:59am

unfortunately, shit for brains is very popular with the europeans right now, particularly germany. Half of them think he's already president due to the press coverage he gets, and basic lack of knowledge about America. chances are his head is gonna be even bigger (if thats possible) after he gets back from his little jaunt to prop his ego.

18 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:01am

re: #12 EC Marm

I think I read that the location of big O's speech has been changed.

Berlin Wall-mart?

19 Beobachter  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:07am

re: #6 mikalm

He's not a leader like JFK or RWR -- he just plays one on television!

He stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Fixed that for you.

20 maddogg  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:07am

The audacity of hot intestinal gas......

21 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:15am

Don't you see? No-A-Bama is entitled to the presidency and all acolades of a great leader because...because...change!

22 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:20am

There's a joke that goes around German language classes that JFK should have actually said "Ich bin Berliner" without the extra "ein."

"Ein Berliner" is a jelly donut.

/mmm, grammar Nazism.

23 trailortrash  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:21am

he has barely earned the right to stand at the gates of the white house for a tour much less Brandenburg

24 Edouard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:28am

Go Krauthammer Go!

25 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:30am
26 Fast Eddie  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:34am

Unless McCain starts making these points himself - loudly - nobody is going to notice except for those of us who read conservative columnists and bloggers.

27 Opinionated  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:36am

Krauthammer appeals to facts and intelligence and logic.

None of which concern Obama voters.

28 Seaberry  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:41am

Obama is s--p--e--c--i--a--l, so he deserves the right to speak at the Brandenburg Gate. *GAG*

29 tgibson1962  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:50:47am

re: #6 mikalm

He's not a leader like JFK or RWR -- he just plays one on television!

Or maybe be just stays at the Holiday Inn Express alot on the campaign trail.

30 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:51:06am

re: #16 zombie

Speaking of the Audacity of Vanity:

What Would Al Gore Do?

Algore would eat ALL the donuts.

31 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:51:14am

Just read this one.

I love Charles Krauthammer's sense of humor. When he tries, he can be almost as funny as Mark Steyn.

32 nosubforvictory  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:51:33am

"And what exactly has he done in his lifetime to merit appropriating the Brandenburg Gate as a campaign prop?"


Hope and change baby, hope and change.

33 vxbush  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:52:10am

re: #27 Opinionated

Krauthammer appeals to facts and intelligence and logic.

None of which concern Obama voters.

Alas, I'm afraid you're right.

34 jamgarr  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:52:25am

I loved Merkel's "inappropriate" bitchslap.

35 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:52:49am

Check McCain's new ad on Obama's Iraq policy. It's a entirely made up of Obama's statements & speeches, repeatedly contradicting himself and switching positions, even lying about what he said before. Brilliant!

Whaaaahhh, McCain can't quote HIM, it's unfair!

36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:53:27am

Obama: The audacity of pompousity

37 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:53:48am

That was great. I've also noticed that Obama NEVER goes to a venue that is not friendly. Say what you want about McCain, but he will speak to anyone. Hell, he spoke to the NAACP this week. Yo gotta hand it to him. Obama won't even go on Fox News. (although I think he might have done Fox News Sunday w/ Chris Wallace)

38 ointmentfly  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:54:01am

C'mon Charles... He is the rounded tip of the left wing spaghetti spear heading to the middle east to cup the ass of any and every dictator within reach....

39 doppelganglander  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:54:20am

re: #22 laZardo

There's a joke that goes around German language classes that JFK should have actually said "Ich bin Berliner" without the extra "ein."

"Ein Berliner" is a jelly donut.

/mmm, grammar Nazism.

For Obama, being a jelly donut would be a step up. Right now he's kind of a bland, unfilled glazed donut.

40 sojerofgod  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:54:21am

Ok Obama's not proud to be an American. I'd say that's a given considering his past statements (before the media spotlight gave him reason to BS that one) Now he says that he wants to start a National Security force equal in size and strength to the US military? What possible use would he have for such a thing, but to crush dissent and political opponents in the name of "Hope, Change and of course, Unity" This is a very scary man. I pray that he does not gain power as he is the least qualified and most arrogant candidate I think I have ever seen run.

41 flaggman  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:54:28am

Why is it that my community never needed organizing?

42 freedomplow  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:54:36am

Obama is either running for President of Europe or trying to pass the global test.

Haven't figured out which yet.

43 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:54:45am

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Audacity of Ego

44 Josephine  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:54:50am

"Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself."

I hope so. I really, really hope so.

45 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:54:50am

re: #30 debutaunt

Algore would eat ALL the donuts berliners.

/mmmmmmmm, jelly donuts

46 jhn1  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:54:51am

Another difference.
Neither Reagan nor Kennedy were actively politically campaigning for the US Presidency as a non-incumbent when they spoke there.

47 The Other Les  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:55:34am
Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself.


No wonder the Hollyweird crowd loves him. Elevated self images are the norm for the entertainment business.

48 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:55:43am

He is a moron.
On the other hand, for those who didn't see my excited ramblings last night, I got to go to a town hall and actually asked Senator McCain a question!

49 bosforus  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:56:16am

re: #35 Kenneth

Check McCain's new ad on Obama's Iraq policy. It's a entirely made up of Obama's statements & speeches, repeatedly contradicting himself and switching positions, even lying about what he said before. Brilliant!

Whaaaahhh, McCain can't quote HIM, it's unfair!

Reminds me of a campaign ad by, I believe, the Bob Dole campaign. It quoted positions by a candidate then quoted another candidate giving the exact opposite position. It concluded with "The first candidate is Bill Clinton. Unfortunately, so is the other."

50 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:56:30am

re: #41 flaggman

Why is it that my community never needed organizing?

Because you were born into a societal class that already granted you entitlements. You are so steeped in your privileges, you don't even notice them.

////////

51 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:56:40am

re: #40 sojerofgod

Ok Obama's not proud to be an American. I'd say that's a given considering his past statements (before the media spotlight gave him reason to BS that one) Now he says that he wants to start a National Security force equal in size and strength to the US military? What possible use would he have for such a thing, but to crush dissent and political opponents in the name of "Hope, Change and of course, Unity" This is a very scary man. I pray that he does not gain power as he is the least qualified and most arrogant candidate I think I have ever seen run.

Brown Shirts? A Little Red No-A-Bama Book?

52 yma o hyd  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:56:47am

re: #22 laZardo

There's a joke that goes around German language classes that JFK should have actually said "Ich bin Berliner" without the extra "ein."

"Ein Berliner" is a jelly donut.

/mmm, grammar Nazism.

Heh - and I've now learned that the 'real' 'Berliner', thats the donuts, are a special food for New Year's Eve ...

53 tgibson1962  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:56:59am

Two points quickly:

When Germans recognize a megalomaniac, it's a good idea to listen to them.

When I read the opposing comments to this column on the WaPo site this morning I was appalled (which takes a good bit) at the pure venom. One person said the only thing holding Dr. K up was his starched shirt.

In short, if Obama is elected that may well become the clinching argument for the colonization of space.

54 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:57:01am

re: #6 mikalm

He's not a leader like JFK or RWR -- he just plays one on television!

Just a spinoff of "The West Wing" - nothing to see here, move on.

-S-

55 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:57:22am

re: #48 Typicalwhitey

He is a moron.
On the other hand, for those who didn't see my excited ramblings last night, I got to go to a town hall and actually asked Senator McCain a question!

And I for one am quite proud of you.

56 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:57:50am

re: #55 OldLineTexan

Did you see it?
I am so damn excited and I can hardly contain it!

57 jcm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:58:13am

re: #16 zombie

Speaking of the Audacity of Vanity:

What Would Al Gore Do?

How long before WWOD?

58 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:58:26am

I heard Germany doesn't want him to give the speech there.

But he has a plan to get there anyway. He'll fly there on his unicorn.
(Look up the latest JibJab video, for those who missed it.)
Which reminds me, it seems he must have changed the nature of unicorns for him to be able to touch one.

59 chinesearithmetic  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:58:27am

Barack is Mr. Thing.

60 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:58:41am

An American leader goes to bring about the end of the communist nightmare on humanity, and now a potential American leader goes who only wishes to bring the nightmare to our shores.

Only 200 million killed - maybe this time it will work. /

61 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:59:02am
62 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:59:05am

re: #56 Typicalwhitey

Did you see it?
I am so damn excited and I can hardly contain it!

No, but I heard about it here on the OT.

Is there a video on a news outlet, perchance?

63 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:59:42am

re: #57 jcm

How long before WWOD?

Oprah already tells a bunch of "people" what to do.

/

64 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:59:42am

re: #30 debutaunt

re: #16 zombie

re: #45 OldLineTexan

ALGORE DEMANDS YOU CEASE YOUR SLANDERING OF HIS GREATNESS.

65 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:59:48am

Obama won't be riding a unicorn & jumping over giving a speech at the Brandenburg Gate after all...

If the Obamahdi needs a good backdrop for His speech, maybe the Mount of Olives is still available... I read somewhere some other famous guy made a good speech there once.

66 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:00:15am

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

Obama's Brandenburg Gate is not unlike Nixon's effort to dress the guards in the White House in comic-opera uniforms.

Except Nixon was at least POTUS at the time he committed that faux pas.

67 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:00:20am

Wow, this in the WaPo just after they trashed his Iraq policy. Maybe some eyes are being opened?

Or maybe not.

Anyway, I like this:

For the first few months of the campaign, the question about Obama was: Who is he? The question now is: Who does he think he is?

This is what happens when all there is to talk about is his image, since there is no substance.

68 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:00:36am

re: #49 bosforus

I remember that one.

69 jamgarr  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:00:52am

re: #65 Kenneth

Obama won't be riding a unicorn & jumping over giving a speech at the Brandenburg Gate after all...

If the Obamahdi needs a good backdrop for His speech, maybe the Mount of Olives is still available... I read somewhere some other famous guy made a good speech there once.


Did he say "Blessed are the arugala farmers"?

70 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:03am

re: #64 laZardo

re: #16 zombie

re: #45 OldLineTexan

ALGORE DEMANDS YOU CEASE YOUR SLANDERING OF HIS GREATNESS.

If I greased his greatness, I might be able to squeeze his butt back into his Gulfstream V.

71 Alone in NY  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:04am

Its really pretty simple. Barry O is a fraud.

72 The Other Les  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:24am

re: #65 Kenneth

Obama won't be riding a unicorn & jumping over giving a speech at the Brandenburg Gate after all...

If the Obamahdi needs a good backdrop for His speech, maybe the Mount of Olives is still available... I read somewhere some other famous guy made a good speech there once.

And a bunch of folks in the back row weren't quite getting it.

"Blessed are the cheesemakers?"

73 sojerofgod  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:25am

re: #51 Leonidas Hoplite

Exactly.

It seems to me that there are enough brain-dead Obama-messiah supporters to form a fairly large cadre for the new NSS (National Security Service) All that's missing is the twin lightning insignia, and perhaps the little silver skull&crossbones that adorned the officer's peaked caps. And of course, since black is beautiful there's no question what color their uniforms would be...

74 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:33am

re: #16 zombie

Especially odd since Al Gore doesn't practice what he preaches at all. If they did what AG would do, they'd all use 20 times average resources.

Rare is the religion where the leaders are bound by the same rules as the followers. I can think of only 3.

75 KenJen  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:38am

BHO's so vain. I'll bet he thinks this article is about him. Don't you, don't you?

76 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:41am

He should be able to give the speech at the gate..Obama is the changiest changer in the ever changing universe. He is the one who causes change by merely entering a room, space, area...he is OBAMA!

/channelling stoned moonbat...pass the cheetos.

PS: I'm still alive...I just don't have internet access at home. I just moved and the service is AFU. I'm in withdrawal.

77 profitsbeard  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:43am

Obama should speak at Checkpoint Charlie, since he's so into race politics.

78 lifeofthemind  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:43am

Candidates for Mayor of NY make an obligatory appearance in Florida to raise money and shmooze the elderly. A luncheon in Tuscany or Oxfordhshire may be done decently but a public rally for partisan politics is offensive. Some liberals are of the opinion that since America is so important in the world the whole world has a right to move here and vote in our elections.

79 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:53am

re: #65 Kenneth

Obama won't be riding a unicorn & jumping over giving a speech at the Brandenburg Gate after all...

If the Obamahdi needs a good backdrop for His speech, maybe the Mount of Olives is still available... I read somewhere some other famous guy made a good speech there once.

How about the Garden Tomb? Is the rock still there? We could save on a platform.

80 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:53am

Ah, here it is:

Barack Obama Will Speak At Victory Column, Not Brandenburg Gate

Barack Obama will give his much talked about Berlin speech at the city's monumental victory column, not at historic Brandenburg Gate. Berlin dailies Berliner Zeitung and Berliner Morgenpost both report that a stage will be set up at the victory column so that Brandenburg Gate will be visible in the background.
snip
Of course, there is the highly symbolic name celebrating Prussian victories over Denmark, Austria and France. [Link: blogs.dw-world.de...]


I love it. BHO's going to give a speech in front of a monument celebrating German victory over France!

81 jamgarr  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:01:56am

re: #72 The Other Les

And a bunch of folks in the back row weren't quite getting it.

"Blessed are the cheesemakers?"


GMTA brother.

82 chinesearithmetic  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:02:21am

They tried to cross Bono and Oprah. It's not working.

83 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:02:33am

re: #62 OldLineTexan


Here ya go

Click on McCain answers questions.
I am the second questioner!

84 noshariaincanada  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:02:44am

I just cannot wait for the Nobama to say he will meet with Nasrallah, without precondition.

85 Cicero05  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:02:45am
For the first few months of the campaign, the question about Obama was: Who is he? The question now is: Who does he think he is?

As usual, Krauthammer nails it.

86 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:02:46am

re: #57 jcm

Oh dear... What Would Obama Do?

87 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:02:54am

re: #75 KenJen

BHO's so vain. I'll bet he thinks this article is about him. Don't you, don't you?

DING! DING! DING!

We have a winnah'!

88 mikalm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:03:20am

re: #16 zombie

That is utterly appalling.

89 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:03:25am

re: #82 chinesearithmetic

They tried to cross Bono and Oprah. It's not working.

Obono?

You may be on to something.

90 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:04:12am

re: #37 Ziggy

That was great. I've also noticed that Obama NEVER goes to a venue that is not friendly. Say what you want about McCain, but he will speak to anyone. Hell, he spoke to the NAACP this week. Yo gotta hand it to him. Obama won't even go on Fox News. (although I think he might have done Fox News Sunday w/ Chris Wallace)

When are these two going to debate?
I really, really want to see that.

91 ladycatnip  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:04:20am

#39 doppleganglander

re: #22 laZardo

There's a joke that goes around German language classes that JFK should have actually said "Ich bin Berliner" without the extra "ein."

"Ein Berliner" is a jelly donut.

/mmm, grammar Nazism.

For Obama, being a jelly donut would be a step up. Right now he's kind of a bland, unfilled glazed donut.

I like this one better: There was a cartoon on lucianne.com a few days ago with Obama - his arms wide open to embrace his adoring German crowd:

"Ich bin ein beginner."
92 jamgarr  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:04:23am

re: #75 KenJen

BHO's so vain. I'll bet he thinks this article is about him. Don't you, don't you?


Well, you had me several news cycles ago
When I was still quite naive

93 Just Another Four-letter Word  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:04:32am

re: #13 maddogg

I thought he was playing Jimmah Carter,

You give him credit for something he can't approach.

Man, I never woulda thunk it - Jimmy Carter looking better!

"What a woild, what a woild!" - Yogurt, Spaceballs

JAFLW

94 sojerofgod  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:04:54am

What really amazed me the first time I saw pics of the SS uniform insignia up close was those skulls. I mean, how could anyone, ANYONE wear a uniform with such insignia... they had to know that they were joining a murder cult at the very least.

The ability and proclivity for brutality in man is boundless.

95 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:05:01am

re: #88 mikalm

That is utterly appalling.

I'm shocked that great big bolts of lightening didn't hurdle from the sky and strike this guy/gal/it's San Francisco who can tell? down.

96 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:05:19am

re: #86 Kenneth

Oh dear... What Would Obama Do?

That is one sick puppy, or a completely perverse liar.

97 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:05:25am

Had a candidate for an elected position in Germany done something for the US that most Americans would consider an action that the Statue of Liberty stands for, then it might be appropriate for that German candidate to speak at Liberty Island. But what candidate would?

Obama has zero record with the German people. He has in no way earned a right to speak there unless he has something substantial and worthwhile to offer. Empty words of "Hope" and "Change" for America gives him the right to breath German air and little else.

98 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:05:27am

re: #57 jcm Hey jcm, left a post for ya on the prior thread!

99 jcm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:05:30am

re: #86 Kenneth

Oh dear... What Would Obama Do?

Oh my.

100 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:05:30am

re: #90 angst

When are these two going to debate?
I really, really want to see that.


I'll be throwing a cocktail party for the occasion.

101 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:05:51am
re: #37 Ziggy

That was great. I've also noticed that Obama NEVER goes to a venue that is not friendly. Say what you want about McCain, but he will speak to anyone. Hell, he spoke to the NAACP this week. Yo gotta hand it to him. Obama won't even go on Fox News. (although I think he might have done Fox News Sunday w/ Chris Wallace)

When are these two going to debate?
I really, really want to see that.

I just saw McCain in a town hall.
He spoke for about 15 minutes and the rest of the time he fielded questions.
And he had no idea what those questions would be!

102 Just Another Four-letter Word  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:08am

re: #16 zombie

Speaking of the Audacity of Vanity:

What Would Al Gore Do?

Hmmmm... I thought WWAGD stood for, "What would a Gorebot do?"

Silly me. Sorry.

JAFLW

103 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:13am

re: #96 OldLineTexan

That is one sick puppy, or a completely perverse liar.


Either way, I just threw up a little in my mouth.

104 transient  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:13am

The audacity of entitlement.

105 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:14am

re: #40 sojerofgod,

He truly, completely believes his Cult of Personality. We have a potential Mao running for President. Next he'll be talking about a Cultural Revolution.

106 itellu3times  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:19am
Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself.

I'm going to defend Obama. I really do not see a personal arrogance. What I see is a guy playing a role. Maybe one has to be nuts to play out a transcendental progressivist triumphalism, if that's what it is, but the Kos crowd loves it, right?

The faults we see in Obama, I really don't make personal, I see them as more institutional, which makes Kratuhammer's criticism inaccurate and unfair. All progressives are audaciously vain, from his perspective. Heck, they might generically agree with this but see it as a virtue.

107 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:21am

re: #35 Kenneth

Check McCain's new ad on Obama's Iraq policy. It's a entirely made up of Obama's statements & speeches, repeatedly contradicting himself and switching positions, even lying about what he said before. Brilliant!

Whaaaahhh, McCain can't quote HIM, it's unfair!

Very good, thank you for posting.

108 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:22am

re: #69 jamgarr

Did he say "Blessed are the arugala farmers"?

I believe he was referring to all farmers of bitter produce preferred by snobs.

109 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:32am

re: #86 Kenneth

Wow.

110 J.S.  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:53am

The Fwench love Obama -- they (along with Londoners) will be out in droves -- they estimate that in Britain the Obamanation will attract 50,000 and will be akin to a "rock star." And why all the adulation (based on what exactly?) for a person who's done virtually nothing in terms of politics? Well, of course, it's because they believe Obama despises Amerikkka. That's why they (overseas) so admire, fawn over, and express their hope for "change" for Amerika. In other words, to Make America into the Image of Fwance.

111 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:06:54am

re: #94 sojerofgod

What really amazed me the first time I saw pics of the SS uniform insignia up close was those skulls. I mean, how could anyone, ANYONE wear a uniform with such insignia... they had to know that they were joining a murder cult at the very least.

The ability and proclivity for brutality in man is boundless.

The skull symbol PREDATES the Nazis, as does the swastika.

You will see it in Napoleonic-era military emblems.

112 The Other Les  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:07:06am

re: #90 angst

When are these two going to debate?
I really, really want to see that.

And we'll get to Obama suck so badly that he could suck a vacuum.

/That's probably over the line...

113 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:07:08am

re: #94 sojerofgod

The ability and proclivity for brutality in man is boundless.

...and history is replete with examples. Funny the libs aren't aware of that...I guess it speaks loudly of the education they all received.

114 Sir Napsalot  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:07:25am

re: #42 freedomplow

Obama is either running for President of Europe or trying to pass the global test.

Haven't figured out which yet.

He's welcome to it (President of Europe). In fact, I'll even vote for him on that.

115 maddogg  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:07:26am

{comment deleted in order to maintain harmony}

116 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:07:33am

re: #110 J.S.

The Fwench love Obama -- they (along with Londoners) will be out in droves -- they estimate that in Britain the Obamanation will attract 50,000 and will be akin to a "rock star." And why all the adulation (based on what exactly?) for a person who's done virtually nothing in terms of politics? Well, of course, it's because they believe Obama despises Amerikkka. That's why they (overseas) so admire, fawn over, and express their hope for "change" for Amerika. In other words, to Make America into the Image of Fwance.


That, and he isn't GWB. Or Dick Cheney.

117 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:07:48am

re: #73 sojerofgod

Exactly.

It seems to me that there are enough brain-dead Obama-messiah supporters to form a fairly large cadre for the new NSS (National Security Service) All that's missing is the twin lightning insignia, and perhaps the little silver skull&crossbones that adorned the officer's peaked caps. And of course, since black is beautiful there's no question what color their uniforms would be...

I thought he was going to start with the Nation of Islam thugs.

118 jcm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:08:24am

re: #98 realwest

Hey jcm, left a post for ya on the prior thread!

Got, right as usual RW.

119 Beobachter  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:08:32am

re: #35 Kenneth

Check McCain's new ad on Obama's Iraq policy. It's a entirely made up of Obama's statements & speeches, repeatedly contradicting himself and switching positions, even lying about what he said before. Brilliant!

Whaaaahhh, McCain can't quote HIM, it's unfair!

When I watched that clip earlier, I finally figured Obama out. When he says "I've always said that...", you can bet that he never did.

120 sojerofgod  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:08:35am

re: #95 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I thought dark lightning bolts flew out of the Obamessiah's arse?

At least that's what Braveheart said he couldn't do...
and since Big O can do anything including making the seas recede, well, a little lightning shouldn't be too hard

I'll bet Michelle fusses at him about doing that on the sofa though...

121 Leonidas Hoplite  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:08:38am

re: #106 itellu3times

I'm going to defend Obama. I really do not see a personal arrogance. What I see is a guy playing a role. Maybe one has to be nuts to play out a transcendental progressivist triumphalism, if that's what it is, but the Kos crowd loves it, right?

The faults we see in Obama, I really don't make personal, I see them as more institutional, which makes Kratuhammer's criticism inaccurate and unfair. All progressives are audaciously vain, from his perspective. Heck, they might generically agree with this but see it as a virtue.

You'll have to tell me that at least two more times before I consider it...

122 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:08:47am

Hey realwest!

123 Just Another Four-letter Word  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:09:07am

re: #17 Spider Mensch

unfortunately, shit for brains is very popular with the europeans right now, particularly germany. Half of them think he's already president due to the press coverage he gets, and basic lack of knowledge about America. Chances are his head is gonna be even bigger (if that's possible) after he gets back from his little jaunt to prop his ego.

Well, if he suffers from swelled head syndrome ("A legend in his own mind"), then he'll probably be able to stick his WHOLE foot in his mouth easier, thereby showing everybody what he's truly about. Only the brain-dead will not take heed - there's not much we can do for them.

We can hope. CHANGE!

JAFLW

124 mikalm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:09:10am

re: #111 OldLineTexan

The Knights Templar also used it way back in the Middle Ages. Their naval contingent originated the skull-n-crossbones flag later adapted by pirates.

125 sojerofgod  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:09:26am

re: #105 Iron Fist

I think he already is. what else could the slogan, "We are the change we have been waiting for" mean?

126 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:09:42am

re: #86 Kenneth

Oh dear... What Would Obama Do?

Um, pander to you long enough to get your vote and some cash out of you before sacrificing you for his own political gain?

127 Typicalwhitey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:09:52am

re: #125 sojerofgod

I think he means the royal "we"

128 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:10:16am

re: #35 Kenneth

All of a sudden, Obama reminds me of this villain from a movie I just watched.

/believe in Barack Obama, I don't

129 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:10:25am

re: #16 zombie

Speaking of the Audacity of Vanity:

What Would Al Gore Do?

AAAAAAHHHH!

130 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:10:43am
131 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:10:49am

Power corrupts, etc...

If he's this bad now as senator and the heir-apparent Prince of Whines, wait until he is in office.

132 Miss Molly  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:10:54am

If this is an effort to try to show Barack as an International leader I doubt it will work very well. Germany has already made it clear they do not like being used in this manner. I doubt anyone here at home will be paying much attention to this. It also makes him look desperate to do anything to try and cover up his total lack of experience. Again, he has had what -- 142 days working in the Senate and now tells us he has the qualifications to be President. This is both pathetic and desperate!

133 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:11:01am

re: #105 Iron Fist

,

He truly, completely believes his Cult of Personality. We have a potential Mao running for President. Next he'll be talking about a Cultural Revolution.


He flirted with that thought in one of his speeches already:

This was one of the tasks we set forth at the beginning of this campaign – to continue the long march of those who came before us...
Barack Obama
134 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:11:16am

re: #65 Kenneth

Obama won't be riding a unicorn & jumping over giving a speech at the Brandenburg Gate after all...

If the Obamahdi needs a good backdrop for His speech, maybe the Mount of Olives is still available... I read somewhere some other famous guy made a good speech there once.

Obama can always go to Cyprus to the Greek Orthodox church of Agios Lazaros in Larnaka and resurrect Lazarus again.

135 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:11:33am

re: #127 Typicalwhitey

OK, I just saw the video.

First, congratulations for keeping it together. Also, and excellent question.

Also, aren't you teh hawtness? Goodness.

136 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:11:38am

re: #101 Typicalwhitey

I just saw McCain in a town hall.
He spoke for about 15 minutes and the rest of the time he fielded questions.
And he had no idea what those questions would be!

Barry would not do that. he might do a town hall, but bet your ass, those questions would be pre screened.

137 Just Another Four-letter Word  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:12:51am

re: #41 flaggman

Why is it that my community never needed organizing?

Because you already had your Shiite together!

JAFLW

138 sojerofgod  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:12:54am

re: #117 Kosh's Shadow

Heh,

I always referred to them as "The Bow-tie Brigades" Around town they can be seen on street corners selling bags of fruit and passing out free hate newspapers. They walk inbetween the cars at the lights, but when they see white people in a car they turn their backs and go the other way. I rolled down my window once and asked to get a paper but the dude ignored me.

Humpf! Him Paleface! him no get-um paper!

139 doppelganglander  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:12:57am

re: #91 ladycatnip

I like that one, too!

Here's another idea for Obama: He could just fall asleep and then appear over Jerusalem on his magic horse, Buraq, accompanied by the angel Gabriel.

140 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:13:03am

re: #90 angst

When are these two going to debate?
I really, really want to see that.

Barry will get murdered in a debate, but the press coverage won't represent what really happened.

141 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:13:04am

re: #101 Typicalwhitey

I just saw McCain in a town hall.
He spoke for about 15 minutes and the rest of the time he fielded questions.
And he had no idea what those questions would be!

You gave McCain the picture?

142 sojerofgod  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:13:20am

re: #127 Typicalwhitey


Or the french, OUI

143 Jinx  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:13:35am

Krauthammer usually hits the nail in the head. And again he does it.

Obama is trying to gain worldwide support to shore up his ego. He's doing this because he thinks he already has the presidency in the bag. Witness: the faux presidential seal used on his website and campaign. Witness: any speech he makes, especially when he outlines what he will do in not only his first term, but his second term as well. He is taking this as a given--that the presidency will be given to him. Entitlement.

McCain and the republicans need to attack the secrecy behind Obama, address why there is no paper trail and why Obama will not release his past to the public. Obama is acting like he is the president, which will hurt him in some circles and bolster some support in the looney wings of his party. The more we glean up his past the more frightening it is and more worrisome about what kind of person is on the political trail. Who is he really? The man with no past is intriguing and light needs to shine on his past. This is done to McCain and all other candidates, but not the untouchable Obama.

Keep up the digging Charles!

144 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:13:42am

Obama is an ego without a cause. No actual accomplisments to point to.
I do not know that McCain can beat him, but peolple are getting more & more put off by this hubris.

145 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:13:51am

Ok folks... I'm off for a weekend camping in the wilds of the Canadian forest. Nothing but me, nature and my solar powered espresso maker.

Bye now!

146 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:14:20am
147 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:14:36am

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

Watch out for the Wendigo.

And the Little Mosque on the Prairie

148 Spider Mensch  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:14:49am

re: #140 Ziggy

Barry will get murdered in a debate, but the press coverage won't represent what really happened.

nah, their legs will be tingling too much to pay attention to what he actually says.

149 sojerofgod  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:15:09am

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

Is that some sort of Wombat?

150 pat  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:15:56am

Obama thinks he is running for king of the world

151 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:15:56am

re: #149 sojerofgod

Is that some sort of Wombat?

It's much, much worse than even a rabid wombat*

/* froth, mighty wombats, froth!

152 looking closely  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:16:01am

re: #8 jamgarr

I want Charles Krauthammer's son to marry Victor Davis Hanson's daughter and give birth to the 50th POTUS.

President "Hanson-Krauthammer"?
Yikes, that's a mouthful!

re: #106 itellu3times

I'm going to defend Obama. I really do not see a personal arrogance. What I see is a guy playing a role. Maybe one has to be nuts to play out a transcendental progressivist triumphalism, if that's what it is, but the Kos crowd loves it, right?

The faults we see in Obama, I really don't make personal, I see them as more institutional, which makes Kratuhammer's criticism inaccurate and unfair. All progressives are audaciously vain, from his perspective. Heck, they might generically agree with this but see it as a virtue.


Perhaps Obama is merely playing a role, but that doesn't make Krauhammer wrong about his utter lack of substance and demonstrated vanity.

Lots of other people have run for President (successfully and not), without Obama's posturing.

Obama isn't auditioning for a movie role portraying the President of the USA, he is running for the ACTUAL POSITION, and its all the difference in the world.

153 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:16:06am

re: #132 Miss Molly

If this is an effort to try to show Barack as an International leader I doubt it will work very well. Germany has already made it clear they do not like being used in this manner. I doubt anyone here at home will be paying much attention to this. It also makes him look desperate to do anything to try and cover up his total lack of experience. Again, he has had what -- 142 days working in the Senate and now tells us he has the qualifications to be President. This is both pathetic and desperate!

merkel is an east german.
she knows abt. communism.
she has no use for what he is peddling.

154 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:16:12am

re: #150 pat

Obama thinks he is running for king of the world

Which one?

155 akak  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:16:32am

re: #147 OldLineTexan

And the Little Mosque on the Prairie

Fox bought that.

156 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:16:36am
157 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:17:24am

re: #140 Ziggy

Barry will get murdered in a debate, but the press coverage won't represent what really happened.

Hopefully, they won't be able to edit a TV debate quite so well as they do the press coverage! I really think it could be as big an event as Nixon/Kennedy, only instead of style over substance, it's the other way around.

(Not that Kennedy lacked substance, but he had the TV thing down pat).

158 maddogg  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:17:27am

If Obammy becomes POTUS, then stupidity will have a monopoly on Washington, I suppose the logical next step will be to repeal the Renaissance and go back to the Dark Green Ages.

Like Pelosi says, no drill, no spill (of course no drive, no heat, and no eat too, but thats a small price to pay for dying living green).

159 looking closely  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:18:09am

re: #144 opnion


I do not know that McCain can beat him,


Yes he can.

160 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:18:14am

re: #130 buzzsawmonkey

Mark Twain said that the only people entitled to use "we" are royalty, editors, and people with lice.

Moonbats!

161 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:18:26am
162 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:18:55am

re: #155 akak

Fox bought that.

So now it will have fart jokes.

163 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:19:40am

re: #153 nyc redneck

merkel is an east german.
she knows abt. communism.
she has no use for what he is peddling.

Dr. Merkel and Mr. Pride!

164 Beobachter  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:20:08am

re: #86 Kenneth

Oh dear... What Would Obama Do?

I need to know, so I know what not to do.

165 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:20:34am

re: #110 J.S.

The Fwench love Obama -- they (along with Londoners) will be out in droves -- they estimate that in Britain the Obamanation will attract 50,000 and will be akin to a "rock star." And why all the adulation (based on what exactly?) for a person who's done virtually nothing in terms of politics? Well, of course, it's because they believe Obama despises Amerikkka. That's why they (overseas) so admire, fawn over, and express their hope for "change" for Amerika. In other words, to Make America into the Image of Fwance.

Can we let them keep him?
We keep having to save (no longer so) Great Britain and France; why do they want us to turn into losers like them? If they want us to let them lose, they could say so.

166 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:21:35am

re: #35 Kenneth

Check McCain's new ad on Obama's Iraq policy. It's a entirely made up of Obama's statements & speeches, repeatedly contradicting himself and switching positions, even lying about what he said before. Brilliant!

Whaaaahhh, McCain can't quote HIM, it's unfair!

I'd love to see that plastered all over the airwaves come mid-October. My only problem with it is that it is kinda' long.

167 maddogg  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:22:04am

re: #165 Kosh's Shadow

Let us hope Euroweenie adoration is as helpful to Obama as it was to Kerry.

168 turn  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:22:17am

re: #48 Typicalwhitey

Hey there, I caught the link going through the overnight thread this morning. You did a great job, and leaving him with the picture was a class act!

169 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:22:30am

re: #161 buzzsawmonkey

Sorry, Algernon Blackwood.

Here's the story: The Wendigo.

Ooo- that's one of the stories I tell the kids when we go camping. Nothing like a good ghost story to keep them from wandering off.

170 reloadingisnotahobby  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:22:53am

His alligator jaws will over weight his humming bird legs!
He's a legend in his own mind!
Trying to build his legacy preemptively!

171 Just Another Four-letter Word  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:23:03am

re: #112 The Other Les

And we'll get to Obama suck so badly that he could suck a vacuum. start a Harley!

/That's probably over the line...

Fixed. And probably over the line as well.

JAFLW

172 J.S.  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:23:53am

re: #106 itellu3times

but isn't the real point that Krauthammer makes -- it's not just that Obama exhibits an inflated sense of ego/greatness -- it's that Obama hasn't earned it...Obama hasn't done anything worthwhile in terms of politics. All it is -- is a lot of hot air -- a lot of pretentious puffery -- one big Far*t. That's it -- hot air. he releases a stench, and everybody faints.

173 The Other Les  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:23:56am

re: #171 Just Another Four-letter Word

I was thinking the vacuum outside of a spaceship.

174 akak  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:24:29am

I feel bad for Hussein's Secret Service, imagine having to listen to all this crap.

175 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:25:06am

re: #159 looking closely

Yes he can.


If the election is tomorrow , no he can't. There is a long time to go, but McCain needs to repair the damage with the conservative base.
Running over to La Raza and pandering does not help.

176 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:25:08am

re: #174 akak

I feel bad for Hussein's Secret Service, imagine having to listen to all this crap.

Their little earpieces are actually connected to iPods.

177 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:25:55am

re: #173 The Other Les

I was thinking the vacuum outside of a spaceship.

Do those things get so dusty, then, that they have to vacuum the outside of them?

178 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:25:58am

re: #74 Silhouette

Especially odd since Al Gore doesn't practice what he preaches at all. If they did what AG would do, they'd all use 20 times average resources.

Rare is the religion where the leaders are bound by the same rules as the followers. I can think of only 3.

Al has some nifty credits he'd like to sell ya.

179 tommygum  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:26:21am

re: #39 doppelganglander

For Obama, being a jelly donut would be a step up. Right now he's kind of a bland, unfilled glazed donut.

No donut, all hole.

180 Viking6  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:26:26am

re: #73 sojerofgod

Dad once told me that the impact of a M1 round aimed roughly at the intersection of little silver skull and crossbones usually solved the problem.

181 The Other Les  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:26:38am

re: #177 Silhouette

Do those things get so dusty, then, that they have to vacuum the outside of them?

There's always something out there.

182 desertbrat  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:27:08am

Will BHO be delivering his speech in German?
Oh, that's right...he doesn't speak any foreign language!

I'm so embarrassed.

183 Barry the Baptist  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:27:28am

Obama should speak on the east side of the wall for that is the side he truly represents......One for all and all for one Obama.

Or perhaps this old chestnut: 'Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for me, er, uh, I mean, your country.'

184 Just Another Four-letter Word  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:28:14am

re: #173 The Other Les

I was thinking the vacuum outside of a spaceship.

*I* was thinking about the vacuum in his head...
GMTA?

JAFLW

185 jcm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:29:06am

re: #182 desertbrat

Will BHO be delivering his speech in German?
Oh, that's right...he doesn't speak any foreign language!

I'm so embarrassed.

But he chastised the rest of us for not speaking foreign languages, or teaching our children Spanish.

Do his kids speak Spanish?

186 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:30:10am

re: #181 The Other Les

There's always something out there.

Brilliant! Gilda Radner meets the X-files.
LOL, really.

187 NoSubmission  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:30:23am

I just heard Obama backed away from the Brandenburg Gate and will hold his talk elsewhere.

Change!

188 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:30:44am

re: #182 desertbrat,

You should be! Now back to your Spanish lessons.

:)

189 tgibson1962  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:30:59am

re: #170 reloadingisnotahobby

Trying to build his legacy preemptively!

Probably not a bad idea. Once you're in office in theory you actually have to accomplish something. Congress, of course, is the exception that proves the rule.

190 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:31:30am

re: #187 NoSubmission

I just heard Obama backed away from the Brandenburg Gate and will hold his talk elsewhere.

Change!

It's pretentious for him to give a speech at all.

191 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:31:31am

re: #188 Iron Fist

,

You should be! Now back to your Spanish lessons.

:)

Amigo! Dos mas cervezas, por favor!

/it's Friday, and it's after noon hre

192 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:31:35am

re: #187 NoSubmission

I just heard Obama backed away from the Brandenburg Gate and will hold his talk elsewhere.

Change!

How about in East Berlin, in front of a nice bust of Karl Marx?

193 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:32:14am

re: #148 Spider Mensch

nah, their legs will be tingling too much to pay attention to what he actually says.

It makes me think of Lilly Von Schtuppe..."It's twoo, It's twoo" and Obama is Sheriff Bart

194 lifeofthemind  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:32:21am

re: #182 desertbrat

Will BHO be delivering his speech in German?
Oh, that's right...he doesn't speak any foreign language!

I'm so embarrassed.

Not even from his childhood in Indonesia? He does know the arabic prayer. Are you sure about his being monolingual?

195 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:32:25am

re: #175 opnion
My friend, if the "conservative" base doesn't vote for McCain, then I honestly think the "conservative base" would be responsible for the election of Obama.
And Obama as POTUS would be an unmitigated disaster of alarming proportions.
Understand, McCain was neither my first, second or even third choice for a candidate, but he played by the rules and (is going to) win the Republican Nomination.
The "conservative base" will just have to grit their teeth and pull that lever for McCain.

196 sojerofgod  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:32:57am

re: #169 angst

I say its a wombat, and I say to hell with it.

By the by, what is the plural of wombat? wombat?

197 SummerSong  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:33:04am

Well, I just heard on FOX news that Obama himself told his staff that speaking at the Brandenburg Gate might be, "a bit presumptuous".

So, after the fact, we get to hear how it was all his staff's idea?

Typical.

198 The Other Les  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:33:06am

re: #187 NoSubmission

I just heard Obama backed away from the Brandenburg Gate and will hold his talk elsewhere.

Change!

Nuremberg?

199 NoSubmission  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:33:17am

German media say the Democrat will hold a major campaign event at Berlin’s Victory Column next Thursday, not the iconic Brandenburg Gate as previously floated.

200 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:33:38am

re: #182 desertbrat

Will BHO be delivering his speech in German?
Oh, that's right...he doesn't speak any foreign language!

I'm so embarrassed.

If he could speak another language and McCain couldn't, bi-lingulism would be a top campaign issue on the lips of every news anchor, and mentioned in every poll?

I took a political poll yesterday and it asked me to rank my concerns. Illegal immigration wasn't on it. But fixing broken relationships with former allies was. (spit)

201 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:34:01am

re: #187 NoSubmission

I just heard Obama backed away from the Brandenburg Gate and will hold his talk elsewhere.

Change!


See my #80 above. The speech will now be given in front of the "Victory Column" which is a monument to Prussian victories over France, among other nations.
He done f*cked up.

202 The Other Les  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:34:07am

re: #189 tgibson1962

Probably not a bad idea. Once you're in office in theory you actually have to accomplish something. Congress, of course, is the exception that proves the rule.

Actually it would be nice if Congress would get out of the way and do nothing else.

203 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:34:26am

re: #157 angst

Hopefully, they won't be able to edit a TV debate quite so well as they do the press coverage! I really think it could be as big an event as Nixon/Kennedy, only instead of style over substance, it's the other way around.

(Not that Kennedy lacked substance, but he had the TV thing down pat).

One things for sure, it will be quite a debate. I wonder what would happen if Barry refused to debate.

204 eschew_obfuscation  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:34:37am

re: #196 sojerofgod

I say its a wombat, and I say to hell with it.

By the by, what is the plural of wombat? wombat?

Womenbat?

205 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:34:48am

re: #191 OldLineTexan,

I, like Obama, don't speak Spanish. It is after noon, but I'm at work!

Wah.

206 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:34:49am

re: #150 pat

Obama thinks he is running for king of the world

Ominous, if you know the Steely Dan song
King of the World
"Any man left on the Rio Grande is the king of the world as far as I know"

207 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:35:04am

re: #197 SummerSong

So, after the fact, we get to hear how it was all his staff's idea?

That's his story, and he's sticking to it.

All bad ideas are his staffs.

These are not the staff he knew.

208 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:35:08am

re: #197 SummerSong
Are you suggesting that Obama threw his campaign staff under the bus?!? LOL, it sure is crowded under there!

209 wvobiwan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:35:33am

What cracks me up are all the leftist rubes who believe Obama's crap, hook line and sinker. I'd love to get them at a poker table, Daddy needs a new Lear jet...

210 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:35:49am

re: #170 reloadingisnotahobby

His alligator jaws will over weight his humming bird legs!
He's a legend in his own mind!
Trying to build his legacy preemptively!

sometimes b.o. is so beyond the pale, so outrageous in his words and deeds (like this brandenberg gate debacle) that i think his handlers must be punking him.
seriously, why did someone not quietly go abt. trying to organize this german speech to make sure it would work out?.
it appears they just had no doubts that b.o. would be received like a messiah. his puppet masters are as arrogant and inappropriate as he is.

211 jaunte  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:36:20am

Obama should be encouraged to be as presumptuous as he can.
The greater disconnect between his resume and accomplishments and what he projects as pure imagery, the better chance everyone has to see through him.
Obama trying to stand in the shoes of JFK or Reagan would have been a major Dukakis-in-the-tank moment.

212 maddogg  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:36:30am

re: #209 wvobiwan

What cracks me up are all the leftist rubes who believe Obama's crap, hook line and sinker. I'd love to get them at a poker table, Daddy needs a new Lear jet...

Thats a lotta food stamps.....

213 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:36:55am

re: #208 realwest

That and the bus must have one helluva good suspension.

214 The Other Les  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:37:32am

re: #197 SummerSong

Well, I just heard on FOX news that Obama himself told his staff that speaking at the Brandenburg Gate might be, "a bit presumptuous".

So, after the fact, we get to hear how it was all his staff's idea?

Typical.

A common habit of the villains in ATLAS SHRUGGED was to shift blame for their mistakes on to others. Ayn Rand had these idiots pegged 61 years ago.

215 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:37:34am

While I definitely favor McCain over obama, there is a part of me that believes obama does have some good qualities. Not enough of them to get my vote, but his message to the Black community about the need to focus on their families is a good one. This is the message that ticked jesse jackson off, so it probably has some value. So if he loses in November, he is young enough that he could take another shot in 2012. But in order to receive consideration for my vote in 2012, he needs to reverse himself on a number of key issues. AND he needs to be the man who harangues the Black community into making major progress in building families and educating their kids.

216 Cygnus  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:37:51am

re: #39 doppelganglander

For Obama, being a jelly donut would be a step up. Right now he's kind of a bland, unfilled glazed donut.

You are what you eat.
Ich bin ein Krispy Kreme!

217 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:37:58am

re: #195 realwest

My friend, if the "conservative" base doesn't vote for McCain, then I honestly think the "conservative base" would be responsible for the election of Obama.
And Obama as POTUS would be an unmitigated disaster of alarming proportions.
Understand, McCain was neither my first, second or even third choice for a candidate, but he played by the rules and (is going to) win the Republican Nomination.
The "conservative base" will just have to grit their teeth and pull that lever for McCain.

Hi Real, I agree with most of that, but not all. MCCain was not my first choice, but it is what it is. I will of course be voting for him.
But, I want him to win & he needs to make nice with the conservatives that he dissed. If a lot of conservatives stay home, is McCain going to console himself with knowing that he did not stoop to pander to them ,like say he has for Democats.
He did some serious damage with the base & he needs to repair it.

218 Dianna  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:38:14am

re: #172 J.S.

but isn't the real point that Krauthammer makes -- it's not just that Obama exhibits an inflated sense of ego/greatness -- it's that Obama hasn't earned it...Obama hasn't done anything worthwhile in terms of politics. All it is -- is a lot of hot air -- a lot of pretentious puffery -- one big Far*t. That's it -- hot air. he releases a stench, and everybody faints.

Self-esteem rather than competence?

219 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:39:39am

re: #154 OldLineTexan

Which one?

Give 'em the one with the funny name.

220 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:39:48am

re: #195 realwest

The fact that a number of conservatives do not consider McCain conservative "enough" is ironic as he's come across to the other side of the political aisle as the "archneoconservonazi" to beat.

221 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:39:59am

re: #203 Ziggy Obama, IMO, will NEVER refuse to debate. However, what with scheduling problems and discussions on lighting, podium, time for questions, answers and rebuttals and which TV stations to run it on (Obama will most definitely not want FOX - hell, he didn't even invite Fox on his European trip, even after Chris Wallace personally asked Obama to allow him to go along!) the debates will just not happen.
But Barry won't refuse to debate.
Ever.

222 SummerSong  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:40:21am

re: #208 realwest

I sure am! He's so full of it.

223 wvobiwan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:40:23am

re: #212 maddogg

Thats a lotta food stamps.....

I don't know, where did the 52 million come from? Instead of throwing their money away on Obama, I'd be happy to explain the rules of poker to them...they 'hope' their cards 'change'...

224 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:40:50am

re: #197 SummerSong

Well, I just heard on FOX news that Obama himself told his staff that speaking at the Brandenburg Gate might be, "a bit presumptuous".

So, after the fact, we get to hear how it was all his staff's idea?

Typical.

Lying sack of shit.

225 Lawrence Schmerel  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:41:58am

"As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself."

Charles Krauthammer pegs Barack Obama as a malignant narcissist.

226 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:42:03am

re: #221 realwest

Obama, IMO, will NEVER refuse to debate. However, what with scheduling problems and discussions on lighting, podium, time for questions, answers and rebuttals and which TV stations to run it on (Obama will most definitely not want FOX - hell, he didn't even invite Fox on his European trip, even after Chris Wallace personally asked Obama to allow him to go along!) the debates will just not happen.
But Barry won't refuse to debate.
Ever.

And his minions will not only accept this, but think it's a great idea.

227 shotgun  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:42:10am

The Obamination makes Dan Quayle look overqualified for the job.

228 wiffersnapper  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:42:29am

re: #205 Iron Fist

I play the piano just like Chopin did: With both hands.

229 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:42:30am

re: #196 sojerofgod

I say its a wombat, and I say to hell with it.

By the by, what is the plural of wombat? wombat?

It's probably "wombats," but I kind of like "wombatti."
Wombat is a fun word, sort of a visual onomatopoeia.
I had to spell check "onomatopoeia," and wombats passed, so that must mean something.

230 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:42:47am

re: #210 nyc redneck
"it appears they just had no doubts that b.o. would be received like a messiah. his puppet masters are as arrogant and inappropriate as he is."
BINGO! Why on earth is he having what he calls a Campaign Event in Europe in the first place?

231 wvobiwan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:42:54am

re: #220 laZardo

The fact that a number of conservatives do not consider McCain conservative "enough" is ironic as he's come across to the other side of the political aisle as the "archneoconservonazi" to beat.

Clinton was too conservative for them laZardo, is it any wonder McCain looks right of Bush to them?

232 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:42:58am

re: #221 realwest

If he pulls that off, he is the friggin messiah.

233 pat  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:43:01am

Obama would have no idea what is presumptuous and what is not. None.He has no aesthetics whatsoever.

234 itellu3times  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:43:10am

re: #172 J.S.

but isn't the real point that Krauthammer makes -- it's not just that Obama exhibits an inflated sense of ego/greatness -- it's that Obama hasn't earned it.

Nobody could earn the right to be that "audacious" and nobody can ever earn the right to be vain.

So, anyone who does it, is either nucking futz, or playing a role. Or, y'know, both. But in any case, I don't take it seriously, other than to sneer at it. Which maybe is all Krauthammer is doing after all.

235 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:43:39am

re: #224 MandyManners

Lying sack of shit.

the messiah doesn't lie.
he re- calibrates .

236 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:43:45am

re: #218 Dianna,

It isn't just self-esteem, but his overwhelming sense of entitlement that offends. He is the ultimate "I deserve it" rich guy, almost to the point of being a characature. He had his private school in Hawaii, his time at Hahvahrd, even his "job" as a "community organizer" were his on a silver plate. Has he actually held a real job anywhere at any time? If he has, he's keeping it secret.

237 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:43:59am

re: #225 Lawrence Schmerel

"As president of the Harvard Law Review, as law professor and as legislator, has he ever produced a single notable piece of scholarship? Written a single memorable article? His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: himself."

Charles Krauthammer pegs Barack Obama as a malignant narcissist.


Law Review, ain't what it used to was.

238 wiffersnapper  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:44:03am

Hussein thinks he deserves to speak in front of the Gate. He hasn't done anything that deserves praise.

239 maddogg  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:44:35am

re: #224 MandyManners

re: #197 SummerSong

Well, I just heard on FOX news that Obama himself told his staff that speaking at the Brandenburg Gate might be, "a bit presumptuous".

So, after the fact, we get to hear how it was all his staff's idea?

Typical.

Lying sack of shit.

We'll know for sure when he goes to Israel and asks to preach a sermon on the mount....

240 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:44:58am

re: #235 nyc redneck

the messiah doesn't lie.
he re- calibrates .

Siwwy me. How could I forget?

241 shotgun  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:45:19am

re: #230 realwest

"it appears they just had no doubts that b.o. would be received like a messiah. his puppet masters are as arrogant and inappropriate as he is."
BINGO! Why on earth is he having what he calls a Campaign Event in Europe in the first place?

Shoring up the Euro vote,, it's apparently one of the 57 states.

242 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:45:24am

re: #182 desertbrat

Will BHO be delivering his speech in German?
Oh, that's right...he doesn't speak any foreign language!

I'm so embarrassed.

Oh I think he memorized all the muslim stuff.

243 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:45:59am

re: #203 Ziggy

One things for sure, it will be quite a debate. I wonder what would happen if Barry refused to debate.

So far he has refused open-floor debates- he has to have the questions vetted. But unless McCain pushes hard, no one will ever know the answer to your question.

244 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:46:06am

re: #228 wiffersnapper,

I'll have you know I'm illiterate in every dialect of Chinese! Top that!

:-þ

245 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:46:32am

re: #238 wiffersnapper

Hussein thinks he deserves to speak in front of the Gate. He hasn't done anything that deserves praise.

The guy thinks that he is the reincarnation of Saladin

246 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:46:44am
247 tgibson1962  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:46:45am

re: #218 Dianna

Self-esteem rather than competence?

Bingo!

248 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:46:56am

re: #221 realwest
Hey Real,
I missed that about wallace asking to go on the trip. obama not allowing him to go says a lot about obama's fearfactor.

249 alegrias  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:47:08am

Guten Tag, meine Damen und Herren,

Just wanted to Leni Riefenstahl had nothing on those three US anchorpeople from three liberal networks accompanying and adoring the south side of Chicago candidate to Germany.

Now if they'll prostrate themselves a little lower and sprinkle rose petals where he walks and crown him with laurel leaf crowns, and hail him as Caesar & Kaiser, the international world tour will be a total victory.

We'll have a new Victory in Europe Day on the books.

They stooped to conquer.

250 jcm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:47:23am

re: #195 realwest

My friend, if the "conservative" base doesn't vote for McCain, then I honestly think the "conservative base" would be responsible for the election of Obama.
And Obama as POTUS would be an unmitigated disaster of alarming proportions.
Understand, McCain was neither my first, second or even third choice for a candidate, but he played by the rules and (is going to) win the Republican Nomination.
The "conservative base" will just have to grit their teeth and pull that lever for McCain.

'zactly.

This election comes down to Two things:
The War.
The Courts.

Lose those and the damage will take decades to repair.

The rest we can fight out at the legislative and in the court of public opinion. McCain has shown he will listen, he's shifted on both immigration and drilling.

251 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:47:49am

re: #236 Iron Fist Uh, when you say "real job" do you perchance mean one where he had to do something and then be evaluated by a supervisor? Please, Obama is exempt from that form of "cubicle slavery".

252 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:47:56am

re: #231 wvobiwan

Clinton was too conservative for them

Well, the National Socialists were really just to the right of the International Socialists. I'd shudder to think just how far to the right (classically-)liberal democracy stands.

253 Cygnus  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:48:06am

re: #72 The Other Les

And a bunch of folks in the back row weren't quite getting it.

"Blessed are the cheesemakers?"

"Blessed are the peas mixers?"

254 ErnieG  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:48:38am

re: #39 doppelganglander

For Obama, being a jelly donut would be a step up. Right now he's kind of a bland, unfilled glazed donut.

I see him as more of a meatball.

255 Paul  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:48:50am

Didn't Carly Simon write a song about Obama?

256 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:48:55am

re: #248 newsjunkie_ky
Yeah Wallace said it on that early morning Fox show- Fox and Friends maybe? Around 8:30 AM Eastern Time this morning.

257 lifeofthemind  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:49:02am

Stop the Presses!
This is important!
Be still my beating heart.
We now return to our regularly scheduled bloodshed.

258 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:49:09am

re: #243 angst

So far he has refused open-floor debates- he has to have the questions vetted. But unless McCain pushes hard, no one will ever know the answer to your question.

I love a politician who must have screened questions. You're hiding either your ignorance or what you know are very unpopular beliefs. With him it could be both. I remember Rick Santorum loved an unfriendly crowd. He figured, why preach to the choir when you can win people over.

259 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:49:38am

re: #253 Cygnus,

I thought the peas were whirrled. I'm so confused!

260 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:50:13am

I find it very amusing that little Obama can't travel without 300 political advisors/minders -- THREE HUNDRED!

He's just giving canned speeches.

Frankly, I hope he takes the entire Harvard/Kennedy school of foreign relations, pays for their first-class airplane tickets, upscale hotel rooms and fancy meals. Let him drain his campaign coffers on this fluff.

After all, the more he spends time in Europe, the less he'll be here in the ol' USA campaigning for votes.

261 maddogg  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:50:36am

re: #257 lifeofthemind

She is a most tasty morsel...

/is that sexist?

262 yenta-fada  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:50:41am

re: #10 taxfreekiller

With the caveat "I read it on the internet", I came across some interesting information on Obama's Communist ties in Hawaii.:


[Link: www.usasurvival.org...]

263 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:50:44am

re: #252 laZardo

PIMF how far to the right (classically-)liberal democracy stands on a political spectrum calibrated like that.

264 alegrias  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:50:47am

re: #221 realwest

Obama, IMO, will NEVER refuse to debate. However, what with scheduling problems and discussions on lighting, podium, time for questions, answers and rebuttals and which TV stations to run it on (Obama will most definitely not want FOX - hell, he didn't even invite Fox on his European trip, even after Chris Wallace personally asked Obama to allow him to go along!) the debates will just not happen.
But Barry won't refuse to debate.
Ever.


* * *
He'll never refust to debate McCain outright....but he'll walk a mile for a camel-- without preconditions, to shake ahmedinejad's iranian IED-making, US-troop blasting hands.

265 Opinionated  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:51:01am

Wouldn't you feel Superior?

If you were plucked from obscurity. If just a few years ago you were a nobody State Senator. If you became a US Senator because your opponent- not because of anything you did- imploded and gave you an easy path.

If you are in any measurable way unqualified to be a cabinet officer, much less President of the United States, yet you are so close to the office.

If millions and millions of people think you extraordinary, although you have never done anything even memorable.

Wouldn't you feel superior?

Wouldn't you believe that like King David, you were chosen by a higher power?

Wouldn't you feel superior?

He is not hard to understand. He is believing the reflection of millions of fools.

266 johnnyreb  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:51:12am

re: #111 OldLineTexan

The skull symbol PREDATES the Nazis, as does the swastika.

You will see it in Napoleonic-era military emblems.

Actually the swastika goes back to ancient times.

267 doppelganglander  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:51:18am

re: #201 EC Marm

See my #80 above. The speech will now be given in front of the "Victory Column" which is a monument to Prussian victories over France, among other nations.
He done f*cked up.

Maybe he should move it to the Reichstag.

268 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:51:34am

re: #256 realwest
Thanks. I was out walking Dog at that time.

269 Shug  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:51:45am

He should visit a concentration camp to see what real evil does when World Leaders are wimps and don't stand up and fight it.

Look Hard Barry

270 nigella  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:52:22am

I'm shocked,shocked I tell you, to hear Fox News wasn't invited on the "Magical Mis-speaking tour"!

271 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:52:38am

re: #250 jcm

'zactly.

This election comes down to Two things:
The War.
The Courts.

Lose those and the damage will take decades to repair.

The rest we can fight out at the legislative and in the court of public opinion. McCain has shown he will listen, he's shifted on both immigration and drilling.


I agree that an Obama Presidency would be a disaster really without precedent. I want McCain to do everything to win.
It is up to him. If he does some simple things to rally the base it would help. If he does that then I think that he can win.
I do not want to see Barack Hussein taking the oath of office.

272 Opinionated  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:53:52am

re: #269 Shug

He should visit a concentration camp to see what real evil does when World Leaders are wimps and don't stand up and fight it.

Look Hard Barry

Or just look at Olmert.

Better yet, the American voter should look at an Olmert and pray we don't get one for ourselves.

273 Cygnus  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:53:56am

re: #86 Kenneth

Oh dear... What Would Obama Do?

From the disclaimer at the bottom:

We have no intention of relating Barack Obama to Jesus or any other religious entity.

Yeah, right.

274 runrabbitrun  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:54:23am

re: #143 Jinx

Obama is trying to gain worldwide support to shore up his ego.

I shudder to think of the painstaking, documentary-art style coverage that we will be treated to when those three MSM anchors follow Obama on the pilgrimage to Iraq. Giving his blessing to families, farmers, sheiks, hugging the kiddies, and always surrounded by beaming, attentive soldiers (if they can find a few to stand by the Obamessiah - maybe they can keep using the same 10-12 military who might.)

If Iraq continues to do well in the fall, this will be used as a segue to the eventual admission of the MSM that the surge seems to be having some success, followed by a feel-good narrative that hey, maybe we should help fix Iraq - with the blessed one portrayed as Iraq's Healer.

To paraphrase the old story 'Stone Soup' - and to think all it took was a progressive leader and the Democrats to win the war!

275 J.S.  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:54:46am

re: #234 itellu3times

yeah, well, I for one find it's not just arrogant, but devious -- Obama uses these historic backdrops (made famous by Kennedy, etc.) to boost himself, when, in fact, he has nothing whatsoever to "brag" about. Like a "halo effect"...and it is worthy of derision.

276 yenta-fada  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:54:47am

By the way, this same (unknown to me) group that traces Obama's Communist influences in Hawaii discusses why Drudge has become Pro-Obama:
[Link: www.usasurvival.org...]
Caveat lector, but don't toss it out either.

277 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:54:55am

re: #264 alegrias Absolutely correct.
And I'm betting money that there will be no "debates" - not unless the questions are posed by a moderator from either CNN or WNBC. And we've already seen McCain challenge Obama to a series of "Town Hall" debates or mutual appearances -as many as 10 of them, and Obama has refused to do so.
He'll talk to his kind of people however, without any kind of preconditions re: lighting, format etc. etc.

278 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:55:02am

re: #230 realwest

"it appears they just had no doubts that b.o. would be received like a messiah. his puppet masters are as arrogant and inappropriate as he is."
BINGO! Why on earth is he having what he calls a Campaign Event in Europe in the first place?

it's a p.r. stunt. to have european crowds cheering for him.
the grand multilingual ,,cheese eating, arugula chomping, whine drinking, sophisticates he identifies w/.
he is such a blind fool, he thinks americans will be impressed by that.
(obviously we are the 'relatives' who embarrass him. )
obviously, i'm embarrassed by that asshole.

279 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:55:09am

re: #265 Opinionated,

Actually, I'd be scared shitless. Obama is completely unqualified for the Office of the Presidency, yet he stands a good chance of winning it. I'd think a minimum of humility would be required.

Obama starts with no humility. He really believes he is the Messiah. In other words, he's crazy.

I am scared shitless. This crazy SOB stands a good chance of winning.

280 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:55:12am
281 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:55:17am

It's audacity on our part to even suggest that Obaby must "earn" something. The Sixties mentality is at least partly based upon a knee-jerk rejection of parental authority. Let the seething and diaper-soiling commence.

282 alegrias  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:55:33am

re: #260 hermeneutics

I find it very amusing that little Obama can't travel without 300 political advisors/minders -- THREE HUNDRED!

He's just giving canned speeches.

Frankly, I hope he takes the entire Harvard/Kennedy school of foreign relations, pays for their first-class airplane tickets, upscale hotel rooms and fancy meals. Let him drain his campaign coffers on this fluff.

After all, the more he spends time in Europe, the less he'll be here in the ol' USA campaigning for votes.


* * *
YOUR TAX DOLLARS are paying for Obama's trip, I read today--he's on a fact finding mission.

Oddly enough, bankrupt Virginia's democrat governor Tim Kaine is also in Europe today, at taxpayer expense, on a "trade" mission...no doubt laying petals ahead of the Anointed One's feet.

Pre-ee--eee--pare ye the way of the One!

283 jcm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:55:52am

re: #271 opnion

I agree that an Obama Presidency would be a disaster really without precedent. I want McCain to do everything to win.
It is up to him. If he does some simple things to rally the base it would help. If he does that then I think that he can win.
I do not want to see Barack Hussein taking the oath of office.

No argument from me.

I'm taking view from the other side. Getting the base to look at it in the way I listed above.

284 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:56:20am

re: #260 hermeneutics

I find it very amusing that little Obama can't travel without 300 political advisors/minders -- THREE HUNDRED!

Well, that explains his positions on entitlements and the middleclass

"Give to them nothing. Take from them everything."

Not quite what Leonidas had in mind.

/Sorry, it was the first thing that came to mind when Obama and 300 were mentioned together.

285 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:56:23am

re: #269 Shug He already knows; he just doesn't care.

286 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:56:59am

re: #266 johnnyreb

Actually the swastika goes back to ancient times.

The Hidus?

287 Cpt. Disco  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:57:09am

"Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself."

Unfortunately, too many "Americans" also have an elevated opinion of themselves, and they will be voting Obama in November.

288 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:57:44am

Shouldn't this article actually be "Audacity of Arrogance"?

289 jcm  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:57:44am

re: #281 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's audacity on our part to even suggest that Obaby must "earn" something. The Sixties mentality is at least partly based upon a knee-jerk rejection of parental authority. Let the seething and diaper-soiling commence.

Yes we poop!

290 desertbrat  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:57:56am

#194 lifeofthemind:
"...he does know the arabic prayer. Are you sure about his being
monolingual?"

Are you accusing the anointed one of hate speech?
:)

291 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:58:08am

re: #258 Ziggy

I love a politician who must have screened questions. You're hiding either your ignorance or what you know are very unpopular beliefs. With him it could be both. I remember Rick Santorum loved an unfriendly crowd. He figured, why preach to the choir when you can win people over.

Without unscreened questions, I am not sure how we could ever come close to figuring out what they think. I'd even settle for questions proposed by a third party, not the general public, though I don't trust the media to keep a lid on the questions and not leak them to the Obama camp. So I'm not sure if the public will ever really see Obama and McCain have to think on their feet, together, over the same topic. And they really, really need to see that.

292 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:58:20am

re: #286 MandyManners

The Hidus?

I believe the Tibetans and some American Indian tribes both used it at some point.

293 Ceemack  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:58:20am
Americans are beginning to notice Obama’s elevated opinion of himself.


Unfortunately, for far too many of Obama's sycophants that won't matter one bit.

Partly this is because their own opinion of themselves--particularly their wisdom and their virtue--are also overly elevated.

But there's also the fact that much of Obama's support is almost religious in nature. Supporting Obama for these people is not a rational choide but a matter of faith.

And what worshipper would refuse to forgive arrogance in their chosen deity?

294 Spider Mensch  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:58:24am

re: #274 runrabbitrun

yea..the obama trip to iraq...I can see the msm headlines now..."and lo and behold obama parted the euphrates river, and the shia lied down with the sunni, and all was well after the obama visit...alleluia!"...I bet some left wing media actually will admit that the decrease in iraqi violence will be because of obamas visit.

295 laZardo  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:58:53am

re: #284 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Madness.

296 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:58:58am

Here's a Ratherism that I don't know how to interpret.

This morning Rather said that Jesse Jackson "paved the way for Osama bin Laden." He may have meant Obama but said Osama bin Laden (the full name) instead.

Link on Kos ... [Link: www.dailykos.com...]

297 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:59:18am

re: #294 Spider Mensch

Just wait for the reaction he is going to get from Europe, and the way the MSM is going to cover it.

298 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:59:19am

re: #289 jcm

Yes we poop!

heh

299 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:59:29am

re: #275 J.S.

yeah, well, I for one find it's not just arrogant, but devious -- Obama uses these historic backdrops (made famous by Kennedy, etc.) to boost himself, when, in fact, he has nothing whatsoever to "brag" about. Like a "halo effect"...and it is worthy of derision.


One reason I think he just might put caroline kennedy on the ticket.
Let's bring back camelot, yada, yada, yada/moonbat

300 Orangutan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:59:29am

Next Obama speech....from the deck of the USS Missouri.

301 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:59:38am

re: #260 hermeneutics

I find it very amusing that little Obama can't travel without 300 political advisors/minders -- THREE HUNDRED!

He's just giving canned speeches.

Frankly, I hope he takes the entire Harvard/Kennedy school of foreign relations, pays for their first-class airplane tickets, upscale hotel rooms and fancy meals. Let him drain his campaign coffers on this fluff.

After all, the more he spends time in Europe, the less he'll be here in the ol' USA campaigning for votes.

A chain of what?

302 grumpy old codger  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 10:59:55am

re: #94 sojerofgod
I believe that if you checked back into some of the uniforms used by other units, such as the Hussars under the AH empire, you could find similar instances of that motif being used. A skull and crossbones has been used on some unit patches or unit designs, even in the US Army.
That being said, though, the SS certainly pushed the symbol into a whole different world.

303 Ziggy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:00:32am

re: #291 angst

Without unscreened questions, I am not sure how we could ever come close to figuring out what they think. I'd even settle for questions proposed by a third party, not the general public, though I don't trust the media to keep a lid on the questions and not leak them to the Obama camp. So I'm not sure if the public will ever really see Obama and McCain have to think on their feet, together, over the same topic. And they really, really need to see that.

Agreed, they really do need to see that. I hope they get the chance. But the mass hysteria may overide any cognitive abilities that may have been present before said hysteria set in.

304 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:00:33am

re: #300 Orangutan

Next Obama speech....from the deck of the USS Missouri.

Right below B Turret, starboard side (IIRC).

305 opnion  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:01:15am

re: #283 jcm

No argument from me.

I'm taking view from the other side. Getting the base to look at it in the way I listed above.

We are pretty much saying the same thing , but coming at it from different directions.
I don't care what gets the McCain voters to the polls, I just want them there.
Won't do us a bit of good to be angry at Conservatives who stay home, if Obama is elected. As things stand now in my opinion McCain would not win. But, he can change it & until further notice , I assume that he will, at least I hope so. If I had to bet, I'll take McCain

306 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:01:34am

re: #279 Iron Fist

,

Actually, I'd be scared shitless. Obama is completely unqualified for the Office of the Presidency, yet he stands a good chance of winning it. I'd think a minimum of humility would be required.

Obama starts with no humility. He really believes he is the Messiah. In other words, he's crazy.

I am scared shitless. This crazy SOB stands a good chance of winning.

I completely agree with you there. It's quite possible he is, if not narcissistic, a psychopath. There are a lot of them at the top of numerous organizations- most of them aren't serial killers at all.

307 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:02:02am

re: #301 MandyManners

A chain of what?

I hope they're all fools! Nice link, Mandy.

308 xtraBilly  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:02:15am

re: #252 laZardo

I think the liberal establishment is getting there.
They are already planning:
1) what we can eat
2) what car we can drive and how fast we can drive
3) how hi/lo our household temperature should be
4) what fuels we use
etc...............

309 wee fury  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:03:04am

re: #255 Paul

Didn't Carly Simon write a song about Obama?

LOL.

310 Curt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:03:10am

Me? I'm waiting for the news report of a boating accident, where a large yacht, owner by an Oil Magnate, plows, at full speed, in the dark of night, into a smaller vessel manned by BhO and Michelle.

She will suffer injuries, and the HERO in him will make her tie her high heels around her neck, and he will tow her to shore, using a towel in his teeth, where they will be swept away to a local Motel 6, to await "rescue." He will direct the inn owner to procure for him a green coconut, and to carve (for him...can't ruin the pedicure) the words "HELP! Send ARUGALA!" in the husk.

The inscripted coconut will be FedExed to Bill Ayers (overnight that is).

Bill Ayers will come to his rescue. The coconut will be preserved for display on the desk in the Oval Office, but used in interim campaign events, as a prop, around which, BhO can tell of his pain and fear and sufferiing and, let us not forget, his heroic efforts to save his wife from certain death beneath the swells of a lake superior to others.

Reputations will be restored, freindships renewed, "EXPERIENCE" will be had by all. An epic tale of disaster and survival in the cruel sealake!

Hollywood actors will flock to their agents, vying for a part in the upcoming movie.

Any suggestions for the title? I'm stumped after all this screen writing.

PS: I'm gonna blog this this weekend, so you Lizards crank up the creative juices...

311 realwest  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:03:36am

Well all y'all it's been grand but I gotta go mush lunch!
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

312 shotgun  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:04:34am

re: #266 johnnyreb

Actually the swastika goes back to ancient times.

Tru dat, however Hitler probably saw it on the Finish military vehicles/planes in the 30's which was the most recent use of it before he stole it for his use.

313 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:04:51am

re: #265 Opinionated

Wouldn't you feel Superior?

If you were plucked from obscurity. If just a few years ago you were a nobody State Senator. If you became a US Senator because your opponent- not because of anything you did- imploded and gave you an easy path.

If you are in any measurable way unqualified to be a cabinet officer, much less President of the United States, yet you are so close to the office.

If millions and millions of people think you extraordinary, although you have never done anything even memorable.

Wouldn't you feel superior?

Wouldn't you believe that like King David, you were chosen by a higher power?

Wouldn't you feel superior?

He is not hard to understand. He is believing the reflection of millions of fools.

it's so disgusting tho. so annoying to watch.
it's like when the dumbest kid in the class somehow becomes the teacher's pet and the teacher is marking up his grades and honoring him. and we're sitting there knowing it is so wrong.

314 Just Another Four-letter Word  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:05:17am

re: #215 _RememberTonyC

While I definitely favor McCain over obama, there is a part of me that believes obama does have some good qualities. Not enough of them to get my vote, but his message to the Black community about the need to focus on their families is a good one. This is the message that ticked jesse jackson off, so it probably has some value. So if he loses in November, he is young enough that he could take another shot in 2012. But in order to receive consideration for my vote in 2012, he needs to reverse himself on a number of key issues. AND he needs to be the man who harangues the Black community into making major progress in building families and educating their kids.

In that case, you should vote for Bill Cosby for President, because that is what he (Bill) espouses...

JAFLW

315 tommygum  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:05:41am

re: #185 jcm

But he chastised the rest of us for not speaking foreign languages, or teaching our children Spanish.

Do his kids speak Spanish?

To the help, maybe.

316 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:07:39am

re: #308 xtraBilly

I think the liberal establishment is getting there.
They are already planning:
1) what we can eat
2) what car we can drive and how fast we can drive
3) how hi/lo our household temperature should be
4) what fuels we use
etc...............

I hate that the liberal answer to everything is another law. Laws should be carefully made, carefully considered. Each one of them takes away something that was formerly taken for granted and has the potential to make a criminal out of a normal citizen. Not to mention unforseen secondary effects.

I just don't understand people who say, "Well, it's just trans-fats," or "It's a good thing to do." If it's so damned good, then let people do it on their own, or try to educate them about it. But a law? Laws should not be taken so lightly.

317 alegrias  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:08:16am

re: #271 opnion

I agree that an Obama Presidency would be a disaster really without precedent. I want McCain to do everything to win.
It is up to him. If he does some simple things to rally the base it would help. If he does that then I think that he can win.
I do not want to see Barack Hussein taking the oath of office.

* * *
This is about the third post you've said McCain has to woo passive people for their cheap vote, otherwise they'll sulk and let their country sink.

Old blood & guts McCain isn't a wooer and cheesy panderer. Not a very good one.

People who love their country should be out getting fellow citizens to vote for the ONE CANDIDATE on the ballot willing to FIGHT for our country, period.

Sulking isn't patriotic. Voting FOR one's country is--in my opinion--an obligation.

Your vote may differ.

318 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:08:50am

re: #291 angst
Aren't most questions from the 'public' planted by the msm anyway?

319 runrabbitrun  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:09:34am

re: #294 Spider Mensch

yea..the obama trip to iraq...I can see the msm headlines now..."and lo and behold obama parted the euphrates river, and the shia lied down with the sunni, and all was well after the obama visit...alleluia!"...I bet some left wing media actually will admit that the decrease in iraqi violence will be because of obamas visit.

ha!

And I'm not kidding when I say documentary coverage. I'm actually gathering all my emotional starch together in preparation for the half-hour mainstream news & cable special reports "A Star Shines Over the East".

=p

320 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:09:51am

re: #314 Just Another Four-letter Word

In that case, you should vote for Bill Cosby for President, because that is what he (Bill) espouses...

JAFLW

And up until this point, for his whole life, Obama's message has been the opposite so I'll beg leave to doubt his sincerity. He is not about responsibility but about blame and finger-pointing.

321 xtraBilly  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:10:42am

"You're so Vain"? Yeah that may be true . But for most uber-Obama supporters it's more like "Blinded by the Light"

322 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:11:02am

re: #285 realwest

He already knows; he just doesn't care.

i agree.
b.o. is a lightworker. that is how he will reach evil thugs and monsters.
they will bow before the enlightened one.

323 angst  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:11:46am

re: #318 newsjunkie_ky

Aren't most questions from the 'public' planted by the msm anyway?

I really don't know, I'm guessing it depends on the venue. I'm not sure I trust any of it, entirely, though.

I just want to see them think on their feet.

324 grumpy old codger  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:11:53am

re: #310 Curt
PETA 109

325 Curt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:13:27am

re: #324 grumpy old codger

re: #324 grumpy old codger

PETA 109

Noted! Tha'ts great!

326 Dianna  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:14:02am

re: #296 hermeneutics

Oh, that is very weird!

327 xtraBilly  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:15:05am

re: #316 angst

Yes, I don't mind being made aware of a problem but let me decide what I should do about it. There are so many "scienitfic"
out there that turn out later to be wrong.

328 yenta-fada  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:15:47am

Fortunately, on the plus side, there have been some good non-communist liberals who refused to be duped - the late Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. comes to mind -- and who were crucial to ratting out the communists. These are the smarter liberals, not dictated to purely by emotion. These liberals played an important role during the Cold War, and for a very significant reason that rarely gets its due: these liberals knew, as the right-wing anti-communists knew, that the communists often actively undermined genuine liberal causes -- from advancing workers' rights to civil rights.

Why do I mention this now? Because the entire process is being repeated once again before our eyes, except now it's worse, given that the modern left is so outrageously uninformed, having been trained -- by the mainstream media, Hollywood, liberal historians, and the academy -- to reflexively dismiss any charge of communism as illegitimate McCarthyism, even when the charge is not only accurate but, importantly, exposes how the communists have literally schemed to undermine yet another genuine liberal cause.

A couple of weeks ago in Washington, Herb Romerstein and Cliff Kincaid, two veteran investigators of American communism, held a press conference on Capitol Hill to announce the release of two new reports on Barack Obama's radical past, or, more specifically, his association with extremist elements from the American left -- yet more evidence of a frightening pattern of associations by Obama throughout his distant and recent life, from Bill Ayers to Reverend Jeremiah Wright, all of which at the least shows bad judgment. At the press conference, they discussed Romerstein's report on Frank Marshall Davis, an influential figure in Obama's early life, whom Obama refers to only as "Frank" (albeit affectionately) in his autobiography Dreams From My Father. Davis was a communist, a member of CPUSA. Romerstein developed that fact very carefully in his report, which contained at least a half dozen exhibits and other forms of reliable documentation -- a fact that itself is news, since many (on the gullible left) still like to question whether Davis was a Party member.

Before going further, I would like to add a word on Herb Romerstein's credibility: Romerstein himself was a communist early in life, a member of CPUSA. He broke ranks over 50 years ago. He went on to become probably the single most respected authority on American communism. He is the go-to guy on questions of American communism -- thoroughly respected from the legislative to executive branch. He is the individual who did the work on the Venona papers. He is completely credible.

I know this well, because I know Romerstein. I've worked with him on precisely this kind of research. He is extremely fair, precise, nuanced, and knowledgeable. He constantly exhorts me by email or phone: "Now, Paul, be careful there: He was a liberal and never a communist -- a sucker, maybe; but not a communist." Another example, which is a direct quote from an email: "He was a small ‘c' communist, but never a party member, and later a non-communist liberal who cooperated with the FBI." Or, as he often says: "No, Paul, he was a good guy. An anti-communist liberal. No dupe." Romerstein is no witch-hunter and has never been accused of such. He is the epitome of responsible anti-communism.

That said, what did Romerstein find on Frank Marshall Davis? He showed not only that Davis was a communist, but -- listen up, liberals -- how Davis and his comrades worked to undermine genuine liberal causes because of their lock-step subservience to the Comintern and the USSR. Modern liberals need to understand, for example, how the American communist movement, including men like Davis, flip-flopped on issues as grave as Nazism and World War II based entirely on whether Hitler was signing a non-aggression pact with Stalin or invading Stalin's Soviet Union.

329 PeggyU  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:16:32am

egObama? I've heard countless commentators remark about how "thin-skinned" Obama is about criticism - but they largely attribute this to his "inexperience" in national politics. They couldn't be further from the truth. No amount of exposure will make Obama less sensitive.

He is a narcissist. He sees everything as being tied to him. He can't handle insults. I think it is an Achilles heel, and the McCain team should aim for it. He becomes petulant, sullen, whiny, and sometimes belligerent in the face of personal criticism. Notice how he even went ballistic over Bush's comments in Israel - which were fired at liberals in general. Obama took it personally - it all came back to HIM.

McCain's strategists should recognize Obama's self-aggrandizing personality for what it is and tailor an attack specific to its weaknesses.

330 yenta-fada  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:16:46am

Oops. My post was from the June 13th issue of "The American Thinker"

331 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:21:51am

re: #300 Orangutan

Next Obama speech....from the deck of the USS Missouri.

Standing exactly where the Japanese were when they signed the surrender documents.

332 Orangutan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:22:26am

After introducing his defense plans from the decks of the USS Missouri, Obama will discuss his foreign policy in a press conference hosted at Westminster College in Fulton. He will then lay out his stance on crime from Dealey Plaza.

What else am I missing here?

333 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:22:33am

re: #197 SummerSong

Well, I just heard on FOX news that Obama himself told his staff that speaking at the Brandenburg Gate might be, "a bit presumptuous".

So, after the fact, we get to hear how it was all his staff's idea?

Typical.

Up pulls the Bus.. Obama throws staff under bus

334 Dizzy26  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:32:33am

Mr. Barak Hussein Obama loves this country.

He said it's the "greatest nation on earth", and with all your votes,
HE promises to change it.

Isn't it a great time to be an American?

(But...will the New Yorker get it?:^)

335 uncleFuzzy  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:34:11am

Forgive me if this has already been seen here:

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

While long (a little under 8 minutes) it just points out in his own words what Obama has been saying all along regarding Iraq.

336 nikis-knight  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:35:52am

re: #200 Silhouette

If he could speak another language and McCain couldn't, bi-lingulism would be a top campaign issue on the lips of every news anchor, and mentioned in every poll?

I took a political poll yesterday and it asked me to rank my concerns. Illegal immigration wasn't on it. But fixing broken relationships with former allies was. (spit)

Did they have "Not breaking our word to our current allies?"
I.e., not abandoning Iraq.

337 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:50:33am

re: #336 nikis-knight

Did they have "Not breaking our word to our current allies?"
I.e., not abandoning Iraq.

But when we went into Iraq with 30+ other countries, and then with the new Iraqi gov, we were "going it alone."

Going it alone means without France and Germany.

338 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:54:55am

re: #304 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I don't believe that ship has a poop deck.

339 PeggyU  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 11:57:22am

nikis-knight@336: Yeah, funny that foreign language thing, isn't it? I have a hunch McCain speaks some Vietnamese, maybe Chinese ... I'm sure he picked up a bit of workable vocabulary during his imprisonment. Probably before that, actually, as military personnel often receive language instruction to assist them in their jobs.

Maybe Mr. McCain ought to bring it up.

I think one of the reasons liberals are so enamored of America's BO is that he looks polished. Face it, he does. He is tall and reasonably good looking and young. He wears an expensive suit well. His clothes are tasteful. He does pick up on the sartorial sophistication of Camelot and, I am sure, is consciously aware of the image he is trying to project. He focuses on his childhood to promote himself as worldly and exotic and exciting. It's not much to go on, but he milks it. He needs more than this, of course. That's one of the reasons he wants to deliver the speech in Germany - to appear worldly to the folks back home (particularly the European-wannabe liberals).

We all know he isn't, except in his own appraisal. It would be great if someone challenged his comments publicly during his tour, so he could embarrass himself in front of the Europeans. Now that would be entertainment.

340 Alibaba  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:05:24pm

And even JFK was not much of a leader. Kruschev saw him as a weakling. B. Hussein Obama is an empty suit who leads a party whose leaders are anti-American. That the American people voted power to Little Dick Durbin and Harry the Body Reid, not to mention Nancy San Fran Pelosi, shows how low some people have fallen.re: #6 mikalm

341 pingjockey  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:06:55pm

Malignant narcissist.

342 Alibaba  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:07:08pm

re: #332 Orangutan
That he will appear at Pearl Harbor to state something about a "treacherous attack" - oh, it has already been done!

343 alegrias  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:10:06pm

re: #339 PeggyU

* * *
In 2004, JOhn Edwards/Silky Pony had the $400 hair cuts, and their team actually bragged they had "better hair" than Bush/Cheney.

Remember Kerry was caught complaining he didn't want to use his black aide Wayne's hair brush? (not sure I remember the kid's name)

Kerry went to Swiss or French boarding schools, he and his wife spoke several languages between them.

Still, who wanted to hear what Kerry bloviated in his own native language? NO ONE!

These are superficial false criteria for presidential candidates, all the more so to cover empty suits with no understanding nor appreciation of their OWN COUNTRY's uniqueness, and no desire to preserve, protect and defend their country's uniqueness.

344 runrabbitrun  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:34:39pm

Obama was a brilliantly conceived, inspired plot and pick by the Dems, conceived by the old left machine, and it didn't happen in just a few months. It took years of planning and patience.

Now Obama's being launched at the most highly advantageous time - when the expectation that the master puppeteers will control a Democratic majority congress, White House, and on-the-brink SCOTUS.

They selected a well groomed, articulate and eloquent empty suit, too green to know how to get anything done in D.C. by himself. All this to enable these old-school Marxist planners to move power from the legislature to the courts, expand the number of dumbed-down voters through immigration and education, and remove conservative voices from the airwaves, so that the net result will be that right-wing politicians and ideas will be rendered obsolete for the next several decades - if not forever

.

345 yesandno  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:56:03pm

As I've stated before on this forum....

it is the Audacity of Audacity..........

of the people, he is not.
of the army, he is not.
of the poor, he is not.
of the slaves, he is not.

Rather he exemplifies all those African dictators who never understood the advantages their people had from British colonialism. Rather, they preferred French colonialism, where they were Imperial and imparted nothing of value on the populace....take and give nothing of true value back.

So, Obama is French...without the accent, apparently.

346 CLLRusso  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 12:57:39pm

re: #72 The Other Les

And a bunch of folks in the back row weren't quite getting it.

"Blessed are the cheesemakers?"

According to the Catholic Christians, that were scouting this out long before us Protestants organized, Yeshua gave his "Sermon on the Mount" at the Mount of the Beatitudes, which is a hillside between Tabgha and Capernaum. Since everything in the Bible is always criticized by one archaeologist or another, it is true, no one left a sign stating exactly on which hill there the event took place.

Re:Ken #65

347 Hawk59  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:01:09pm

Excellent article!

With the constant drumbeat that we are starting to see, that this guy is an idiotic poseur, perhaps some of the faithful of the Obamassiah will wake from their euphoria and realize what this idiot is all about.....Himself. (I wonder if his grasp of french extends to the word "poseur")

Or not. ;-(

348 yesandno  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:01:34pm

re: #339 PeggyU

nikis-knight@336: Yeah, funny that foreign language thing, isn't it? I have a hunch McCain speaks some Vietnamese, maybe Chinese ... I'm sure he picked up a bit of workable vocabulary during his imprisonment. Probably before that, actually, as military personnel often receive language instruction to assist them in their jobs.

Wouldn't it be great if on the first debate between the two, McCain started off with an address to Obama done completely in Spanish requiring a response on the part of Obama.....wouldn't that be a hoot! Particularly if the shirts who were doing the debates...the moderators....couldn't translate themselves!

349 CLLRusso  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:01:35pm

Charles Krauthammer is simply my favorite conservative and I hang on each word he writes and speaks. Sanity and clarity is his hallmark!

350 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:26:05pm

re: #344 runrabbitrun

Obama was a brilliantly conceived, inspired plot and pick by the Dems, conceived by the old left machine, and it didn't happen in just a few months. It took years of planning and patience.

Now Obama's being launched at the most highly advantageous time - when the expectation that the master puppeteers will control a Democratic majority congress, White House, and on-the-brink SCOTUS.

They selected a well groomed, articulate and eloquent empty suit, too green to know how to get anything done in D.C. by himself. All this to enable these old-school Marxist planners to move power from the legislature to the courts, expand the number of dumbed-down voters through immigration and education, and remove conservative voices from the airwaves, so that the net result will be that right-wing politicians and ideas will be rendered obsolete for the next several decades - if not forever

.

Articulate? Eloquent?

351 satan sidekick  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:28:45pm

I agree with everything you wrote. I also believe that Soros is one of the Obama puppeteers. Why Soros was allowed to become a US Citizen is puzzling to me. I'm sure he bought his citizenship and that is wrong.re: #350 debutaunt

352 Mardukhai  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:38:53pm

I find Obama's lack of a legislative trail to be utterly amazing.

Last year, I suggested a law to my assemblyman (a reform of parking ticket adjudications), and it's making its way through the legislature right now and has already passed the Assembly without a single objection.

It was just a good idea, a fix for a problem. All good legislators have them. Certainly their constituents do.

What was Obama doing all that time?

353 runrabbitrun  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:46:30pm

re: #350 debutaunt

Articulate? Eloquent?

I meant that they have chosen a dupe who speaks clear, standard English, and has not got inordinate difficulty in expressing the talking points given to him by his handlers - aside from the hemming, hawing and overuse of linguistic placeholders when he is trying to re-organize those points in order to answer a question (softball notwithstanding) from the press.

This isn't that easy to do when you have no ideas of your own! I personally doubt that Obama thoroughly understands Marxist philosophy, other than the ability to regurgitate textbook and slogan. (This does not mean he isn't dangerous). And it would be even harder if the questioning permitted involved an actual defense of any political theory, rather than CYA waffling.

354 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:47:08pm

re: #352 Mardukhai

I find Obama's lack of a legislative trail to be utterly amazing.

Last year, I suggested a law to my assemblyman (a reform of parking ticket adjudications), and it's making its way through the legislature right now and has already passed the Assembly without a single objection.

It was just a good idea, a fix for a problem. All good legislators have them. Certainly their constituents do.

What was Obama doing all that time?

The reason it needed to be obscured will be interesting.

355 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:48:29pm

re: #353 runrabbitrun

I meant that they have chosen a dupe who speaks clear, standard English, and has not got inordinate difficulty in expressing the talking points given to him by his handlers - aside from the hemming, hawing and overuse of linguistic placeholders when he is trying to re-organize those points in order to answer a question (softball notwithstanding) from the press.

This isn't that easy to do when you have no ideas of your own! I personally doubt that Obama thoroughly understands Marxist philosophy, other than the ability to regurgitate textbook and slogan. (This does not mean he isn't dangerous). And it would be even harder if the questioning permitted involved an actual defense of any political theory, rather than CYA waffling.

He is stunningly inarticulate when being asked inexpected questions.

356 runrabbitrun  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 1:58:16pm

re: #355 debutaunt

He is stunningly inarticulate when being asked inexpected questions.

That's exactly what I meant - Obama has no broad database of information to draw upon! Just like those early computer programs which used language to interact with humans - there is only so far that they can go before deficits of creative intelligence are detected. In Obama's case, the more he speaks, the more the narrowness of his political intelligence is exposed.

357 tommygum  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 2:03:08pm

re: #312 shotgun

Tru dat, however Hitler probably saw it on the Finish military vehicles/planes in the 30's which was the most recent use of it before he stole it for his use.

The Freikorps used it in 1919.

358 Captain Hate  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 4:35:27pm

re: #249 alegrias

Just wanted to Leni Riefenstahl had nothing on those three US anchorpeople from three liberal networks accompanying and adoring the south side of Chicago candidate to Germany.

It's too bad that Pantsuit's campaign ran out of money so she couldn't travel to Europe to video and put all of Oblammo's speeches on Youtube before the MSM scrubs them of illiteracy. Is anybody surprised that with the rate of gaffes/day his "handlers" want him away from anybody that can cast a vote against him?

359 Soccer Fan  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 6:23:32pm

re: #14 Crusader Rabbit

IMO the real chutzpah of this man is to send his America-hating wife out on the campaign trail and then complain when her words are criticised.


or to put his whole family on TV and then complain the footage is actually put on TV

360 nadadhimmi  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 7:23:31pm

re: #17 Spider Mensch

unfortunately, shit for brains is very popular with the Europeans right now, particularly Germany. Half of them think he's already president due to the press coverage he gets, and basic lack of knowledge about America. chances are his head is gonna be even bigger (if thats possible) after he gets back from his little jaunt to prop his ego.


He NEEDS a bigger head to keep his ears in proportion.

361 ken_brun  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 8:19:17pm

B Hussein hasn't earned the right to do so, but he'll want to do it anyway - since when has a little thing like street cred ever stopped him ? He could, after all, enrapture all of Germany with a Kennedy-esque speech, which of course should be edited for philosophical accuracy:
"Ich bin ein Red Brigader..."

362 ShanghaiRay  Fri, Jul 18, 2008 9:13:15pm

Tell me, do these words make anyone else want to run to the nearest toilet and PUKE their guts out? "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States Barack Hussein Obama". Actually, sounds pretty presidential if you think about it...like maybe the President of Libya or rather yet Sudan..but not the good ole USA...God help us all. I'm thinking about making idle threats as Liberals do about moving to Canada or someplace else if that f**kwad is elected President but in my heart I know that after the USA the bad only get worse...bad..bad..bad....


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