How did this guy get into Columbia?

I’ve written several times that I suspect Barack Obama of being almost completely ignorant of world history. Now it’s becoming clear that he’s even ignorant of the history of the state in which he grew up.

It's more than that. The attack on Pearl Harbor is ingrained, or should be, into the minds of most citizens, perhaps even "world citizens".

He forgot his cue cards again.

LMAO

what an ultramaroon!

re: #1 vapig

How did this guy get into Columbia?

And how did this guy get out of Columbia with a degree?

If I was a Democrat, I'd be very embarrassed that he's supposed to be the best my party has to offer.

Almost as funny as Dan Rather calling him Osama Bin Laden.

I'll bet he's conflating it with Hiroshima.

If it doesn't help him he's not interested. History? Doesn't help him. So forget it. This guy is a supreme narcissist -- and that should scare us.

There is a chance that he meant to say 'bombs' but dropped an s.

He's giving Dan Quayle some competition...

Was he one or off his meds teleprompter?

re: #3 dolfan

He forgot his cue cards again.

No, he brought them along but of course he needs to re-write history just like he needs to re-write his history of gaffes and positions he's taken.

Harvard Law education at work.

Any guesses what the result will be if BHO sits down to talk, with no preconditions, to Ahmedinejad, Kim-The-Well-Fed-Yet-Short, Mugabe and others?

He grew up in Hawaii - how could he not know correct history of Pearl Harbor? His lack of education, not schools attended, is unbelievable.

Everybody knows that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

re: #1 vapig

Columbia's leaders were white, liberal and guilty; Obama was black and presentable. That's how.

What? was there more than one?

Who knew?

/

re: #8 paint-right

I'll bet he's conflating it with Hiroshima.

Well, hey, Hawaii and Japan are both in the Pacific.

re: #1 vapig

How did this guy get into Columbia?

Affirmative Action

"the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor"?

You gotta be kidding me.

Memo to Barack:

There was more than one bomb.

And they didn't just "fall." Notice the passive construction -- he purposely avoids naming who dropped them. Similar to how the MSM will report that "rockets fell on Sderot" in Israel.

Barack has learned the lesson well: If you don't name the enemy, then the hatred turns inward.

He's doing this on purpose to subtly increase the "self-loathing" quotient of the American people.

If the ad McCain's group put together is any indication of how well the RNC has documented Hussein's idiocy, his political pandering and therefore his utter LACK OF HONESTY, then there will only need to be two or three more ads with HUSSEIN'S OWN WORDS (like these)-- and he'll be down for the count.

Eh, I have a hard time getting worked up over this one when there's so much else about Obama to get worked up about. I'm pretty sure Obama knows Pearl Harbor and all those ships there weren't taken out by a single bomb.

he meant the obama that fell on Pearl Harbor....

But he stands for "change."

Maybe he means to change all of the history books to reflect what he says happened. It's kind of what Stalin did. He would have people murdered and then make his slaves cut the murdered people out of existing pictures. And this was before Photoshop, mind you.

reminds me of the time I went to a Noam Chomsky talk and he claimed that Israel bombed the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps.

Is his college transcript available? I would love to see what he took and get a Columbia alum's take on it. I bet it was gut city.

Dang, 21 comments in the time it took me to type that. When I started typing, there were still no comments. LGF is sizzlin' today!

Video of Obama at Columbia.

My bet is this blog and the Weekly Standard are the only places we'll hear about this. Plus McCain won't say anything.

I think we need to adapt to the threat of him winning the election

re: #28 zombie

Dang, 21 comments in the time it took me to type that. When I started typing, there were still no comments. LGF is sizzlin' today!

Alot of people are competing for the first comment via RSS feed :)

re: #16 Killgore Trout

Everybody knows that the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

Everybody knows that the Germans dropped the bomb on Pearl Harbor.

re: #1 vapig

How did this guy get into Columbia?

Do you really want the answer?.......

re: #11 freetoken

He's giving Dan Quayle some competition...

I think he's blown Dan Quayle away altogether.

re: #21 zombie
"Notice the passive construction -- he purposely avoids naming who dropped them. Similar to how the MSM will report that "rockets fell on Sderot" in Israel.

You're absolutely right, that passive voice is the part that's most disturbing about his speech.

re: #19 livefreeor die

Well, hey, Hawaii and Japan are both in the Pacific.

and it's confusing as to who was in the air and who was on ground. ain't it?

But he can easily say he forgot the "s" when someone points out the error.
Too easily

re: #23 flipflop

Eh, I have a hard time getting worked up over this one when there's so much else about Obama to get worked up about. I'm pretty sure Obama knows Pearl Harbor and all those ships there weren't taken out by a single bomb.

Shhh. Don't tell him. This is too much fun!

re: #8 paint-right

I'll bet he's conflating it with Hiroshima.

I do believe you may be right. It's all a blur in his mind.

Either that, or, as I mentioned above, he studiously avoids naming any villain who might be worse than the USA.

re: #6 mossley

Odd! I was just thinking the same thing. What happened to the blue-dog dems?

re: #11 freetoken

He's giving Dan Quayle some competition...

Dan is hearing footstomps!

Charles,

I’ve written several times that I suspect Barack Obama of being almost completely ignorant of world history. Now it’s becoming clear that he’s even ignorant of the history of the state in which he grew up.

I dont dispute your characterization of Barack Obama. He is an ignorant, incompetent, psuedo-statesman. But I think castigating him because he left the "s" off a word is a bit much. There's woeful ignorance and naivete (which Obama has exhibited numerous times during this campaign) and then there are simple gaffes. This is one of the latter.

And this guy wants to be CiC of the US? Here's hoping the voters heed an old line:

Never send a boy to do a man's job

The gaffes are not the worst of it....it is the 54% who still get all tingly in spite of it. Now that scares the bejeebers out of me!

re: #27 livefreeor die

Is his college transcript available? I would love to see what he took and get a Columbia alum's take on it. I bet it was gut city.

I think Obama has not released any school transcripts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think transcripts are another of the missing paper trail of Obama.

re: #35 The Other Les

I think he's blown Dan Quayle away altogether.

I think Dan Quayle made very few mistakes. The media made sure the ones he made were beat to death. With Obama there is a press blackout on his gaffes. This will go away by tomorrow or is already gone.

re: #27 livefreeor die

Is his college transcript available? I would love to see what he took and get a Columbia alum's take on it. I bet it was gut city.

Basket Weaving 101, 102, 103...

re: #1 vapig

How did this guy get into Columbia?

Perhaps someone rich and influential recommended him... someone who spotted his talent for appearing to be all things to all people way back in Obama's Chicago community organizer days before Harvard.

What a moron. If he wins, we are fu(ked!

re: #33 VegasRick

Everybody knows that the Germans dropped the bomb on Pearl Harbor.

Toga.. Toga.. Toga..

re: #20 kansas

You beat me to it, Kansas!

re: #20 kansas

Affirmative Action

No evidence of that. Be careful before you sling that accusation around. He did, after all, go to Punahou, which is (as Charles will tell you) THE elite private school in the entire state. Having "Punahou" on your transcript will help to get you into anywhere, whatever your race.

Obama may be the Dem's very own Dan Quayle.

Nothing funny in that. Nothing Leno or Letterman could make a joke about, no sir. /

re: #17 joncelli

Columbia's leaders were white, liberal and guilty; Obama was black and presentable. That's how.

Oh come ON! THIS was the best they could do?

He's totally admitted to doing drugs when he was in high school - especially when he was a senior. You don't think that affected his grades?

MONEY was involved with this.

re: #21 zombie

And they didn't just "fall." Notice the passive construction -- he purposely avoids naming who dropped them.

I've seen the same thing in reference to "The events of 9/11".

Careful. His retort will more likely be he meant the plural and it was missed in translation. I said 'bombs'.

re: #30 kansas

My bet is this blog and the Weekly Standard are the only places we'll hear about this. Plus McCain won't say anything.

John McCain is a good Christian gentleman.

Unfortunately we live at the dawn of a new age of barbarism.

I will forgive him not pluralizing bomb. I think it was an error of speech. Nothing more.
But he is still a socialist/racist/opportunist danger to my country and he must not be elected to the highest position on earth.

NObama!

re: #51 ccrnyc

Toga.. Toga.. Toga..

Blutarski!

re: #32 Kaitian868

Alot of people are competing for the first comment via RSS feed :)

I still haven't figured out what this RSS thing is.

Obama's post speech pep talk:

Obama: Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
GOP: Germans?
Reid: Forget it, he's rolling.
Obama: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
Obama[thinks hard]
Obama: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!
[runs out, alone; then returns]
Obama: What the fuck happened to the Democrat Party I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Obama, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. McCain, he's a dead man! Bush, dead! Rove...
Dems: Dead! Obama's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Obama: We're just the guys to do it.
Pelosi: Let's do it.
Obama: LET'S DO IT!

re: #21 zombie

He must be thinking of the movie with Mr Jennifer Garner (aka Ben Affleck) and remembered only the bomb that took out the Arizona.

All these gaffes and yet Democrats want you to think that McCain is the one who is going to be too tired and worn out to be President. Obama has made more gaffes than you can shake a stick at - and indeed appears to have more problems staying on message than even the mangler of memes and malapropisms himself - President Bush.

Maybe Obama should spend more time hitting the books than hitting the hardwood in basketball to bone up on basic history.

come on barry, all you had to do was watch that god-awful michael bay movie to realize more than one bomb fell that day.
.

If I had any video production talent, I'd produce a video showing a Zero dropping a single bomb, followed by that infamous grainy footage of Pearl Harbor ablaze, and ships sinking everywhere.

Let's not go all Dan Quayle on Obama in this case. I certainly hope, pray, wish that this man--who I won't vote for in a million years--meant bombs, not bomb. When you say a million things a day, a missed 's' shouldn't be fodder for controversy.

Or maybe he's a moron.

re: #60 IslandLibertarian

It wasn't just bombs that fell on Pearl Harbor but airplanes flown by kamikaze pilots.

re: #67 segesta

he's a moron

Was Hawaii even one of the 57 states back then?

Oh - Professor Irwin Corey is running for President.

re: #68 Mich-again

It wasn't just bombs that fell on Pearl Harbor but airplanes flown by kamikaze pilots.

I didn't think Japan adopted the kamikaze tactic until near the end?

re: #47 kansas

I think Dan Quayle made very few mistakes. The media made sure the ones he made were beat to death. With Obama there is a press blackout on his gaffes. This will go away by tomorrow or is already gone.

Sorry, but that's not true. Dan Quayle said some of the dumbest things ever recorded by a politician. And it wasn't just a few. The reputation he had was fully deserved.

I'm not trying to bash Republicans with this, but Quayle was the ultimate empty suit.

re: #68 Mich-again

It wasn't just bombs that fell on Pearl Harbor but airplanes flown by kamikaze pilots.

Those weren't kamikaze pilots. They were insurgents...or freedom fighters...or something...

re: #37 paint-right

and it's confusing as to who was in the air and who was on ground. ain't it?

But he can easily say he forgot the "s" when someone points out the error.
Too easily

In an example of where our current public schooling system is taking us, we recently overheard a comment from a middle-aged woman to the effect that the Nips would not have attacked us at Pearl Harbor if it had not been that we hit them first with the A-bomb. (Honest to God!)

-- Jeff Cooper

[Link: www.jpate.freeserve.co.uk...]

re: #62 zombie

I still haven't figured out what this RSS thing is.

And SOME of us just have timing and LUCK!

re: #68 Mich-again

And the mini subs. And the torpedo bombers and dive bombers.

re: #44 Gang of One

Affirmative action ...

Hmmmmm... it's getting to be an epidemic.

For all I know, Affirmative Action did play a role, but we should watch ourselves before throwing it around.

re: #56 vapig

Oh come ON! THIS was the best they could do?

He's totally admitted to doing drugs when he was in high school - especially when he was a senior. You don't think that affected his grades?

MONEY was involved with this.

Did his racist typical white person grandmother have money?

To the tune of Maniac from the film Flashdance.

He’s a gaffe machine,
Gaffe machine on his tour.
And he’s gaffe-ing like he’s never gaffed before.
He’s a gaffe machine,
Gaffe machine on his tour.
And he’s gaffe-ing like he’s never gaffed before.

A Chicago pol at a campaign event
Lookin’ to become president.
Mentions his uncle had liberated Auschwitz
Then stayed in his attic.
Bloggers uncovered his faux pas.
Americans freed Buchenwald.

When charisma becomes a goof
It can cost you’re your treasure
It can bring down the whole roof
Barack Obama can’t handle pressure.

He’s a gaffe machine,
Gaffe machine on his tour.
And he’s gaffe-ing like he’s never gaffed before.
He’s a gaffe machine,
Gaffe machine on his tour.
And he’s gaffe-ing like he’s never gaffed before.

From Don Surber.

I gotta wonder if there's some organic brain pathology at play here. There's way too much of this kind of stuff flowing out of the lips of someone who could have command of this nation and its nuclear arsenal.

re: #75 The Other Les

Charles or Stinky? I goofed on this one. Can you delete it?

re: #37 paint-right

and it's confusing as to who was in the air and who was on ground. ain't it?

But he can easily say he forgot the "s" when someone points out the error.
Too easily

He can say what he wants and will say whatever suits him at the moment, but he "forgot" the bombs, torpedos, bullets, and those pesky Japanese.

Proof that Obama can't find his 's' with a teleprompter.

re: #67 segesta

Let's not go all Dan Quayle on Obama in this case. I certainly hope, pray, wish that this man--who I won't vote for in a million years--meant bombs, not bomb. When you say a million things a day, a missed 's' shouldn't be fodder for controversy.

Or maybe he's a moron.

I vote "B".

re: #57 Mich-again

I've seen the same thing in reference to "The events of 9/11".

Yup. It's the hallmark of the Truther movement, most definitely.

re: #52 Gang of One

I thought I'd get whacked for that one. Thank's for the support.

re: #67 segesta

Let's not go all Dan Quayle on Obama in this case. I certainly hope, pray, wish that this man--who I won't vote for in a million years--meant bombs, not bomb. When you say a million things a day, a missed 's' shouldn't be fodder for controversy.

Or maybe he's a moron.

Maybe?

re: #37 paint-right

"In an example of where our current public schooling system is taking us, we recently overheard a comment from a middle-aged woman to the effect that the Nips would not have attacked us at Pearl Harbor if it had not been that we hit them first with the A-bomb. (Honest to God!)

-- Jeff Cooper"

[Link: www.jpate.freeserve.co.uk...]

re: #79 Truck Monkey

Did his racist typical white person grandmother have money?

There HAS to be something there. He's gone to private schools his whole life.

The grades were average to poor - just sayin.........

And for the lack of a teleprompter, the magical kingdom was lost.

re: #68 Mich-again

It wasn't just bombs that fell on Pearl Harbor but airplanes flown by kamikaze pilots.

There were no Kamakazis at Pearl Harbor.
And I can see it from my office window as I type this.

This is the kind of thing that happens when a dummy typing a speech relies on a spellchecker program instead of having a competent person proofread it before they upload it to the teleprompter.

re: #67 segesta

I'd cut him some slack if it was his first gaffe or two, but it's not. This man messes up nearly every time he is not reading from the teleprompter.

this from a guy who thinks there are 57 states.
we have really dumbed down the requirements for potus.

I wonder if BHO could identify the location (general) opponent (victim) and year of Imperial Japan's first major aggressive acts?

re: #84 jaunte

Proof that Obama can't find his 's' with a teleprompter.

Very nice....I like that LMAO

There is absolutely no way that a person who grew up in Hawaii could say "bomb" with no "s", without correcting it. Just no way. Unless they were simply not paying attention.

The liberals have real difficulty debating Pearl Harbor, but they pound America for dropping the bomb on Hiroshima. Sort of the same characteristics shown as they sympathize with Islamic terrorists who would love to drop the big one on the US....

re: #73 Charles

Sorry, but that's not true. Dan Quayle said some of the dumbest things ever recorded by a politician. And it wasn't just a few. The reputation he had was fully deserved.

I'm not trying to bash Republicans with this, but Quayle was the ultimate empty suit.

On this we agree. I wonder what the hell George H.W. Bush was thinking when he picked him.

I’ve written several times that I suspect Barack Obama of being almost completely ignorant of world history. Now it’s becoming clear that he’s even ignorant of the history of the state in which he grew up.

I don't think narcissists pay that much attention to things that don't matter to them.

My supervisor went to Columbia. He doesn't impress me either. He is also a white male - so AA couldn't have helped him. I say a little thank you every day that he is far up enough in the food chain I can avoid him for weeks at a time (he is at our corporate office).

'course what do I know, I went to Texas A&M for my undergrad. That being revealed, I would like to point out my grasp of US History, World History and oh, I don't know, the Constitution seems a bit more robust than dear Barry here.

re: #68 Mich-again

It wasn't just bombs that fell on Pearl Harbor but airplanes flown by kamikaze pilots.

What?

I've never heard that there were kamikaze attacks at Pearl Harbor. I thought they didn't start resorting to them until 1944.

Maybe I'm wrong -- I'm no expert on this -- but they didn't need to do kamikaze attacks on that day.

re: #98 Charles

There is absolutely no way that a person who grew up in Hawaii could say "bomb" with no "s", without correcting it. Just no way. Unless they were simply not paying attention.

'Maui wowie'?

re #96:

Are you thinking of Russia, China or Korea?

Of course I doubt he'd be able to get any of the 3.

Obama is probably winded. Low on oxygen. He needs a breathalyser. Then he'll be okay.

re: #98 Charles

I think getting it right really doesn't matter to him.

All I want to say to Osama is this and I hope he reads it and understands it “Those that make swords into plow shears soon will be plowing for those that don’t”

Well, this foreign tour of his should be fun to watch.

re: #91 HelloDare

And for the lack of a teleprompter, the magical kingdom was lost.

obambi: "My Kingdom for a working telepropter".

re: #100 Truck Monkey

On this we agree. I wonder what the hell George H.W. Bush was thinking when he picked him.

Insurance policy, plain and simple.

re: #73 Charles

Sorry, but that's not true. Dan Quayle said some of the dumbest things ever recorded by a politician. And it wasn't just a few. The reputation he had was fully deserved.

I'm not trying to bash Republicans with this, but Quayle was the ultimate empty suit.

I believe that Quayle was instrumental in the funding for the Patriot missile system. That sure came in handy in the first Gulf war.

Also, his "Murphy Brown" speech was ahead of its time.

re: #73 Charles

Sorry, but that's not true. Dan Quayle said some of the dumbest things ever recorded by a politician. And it wasn't just a few. The reputation he had was fully deserved.

I'm not trying to bash Republicans with this, but Quayle was the ultimate empty suit.

Well, I could be wrong about the mistakes, but I have heard Quayle speak since then and he doesn't seem nearly as stupid as the press made him out to be and brilliant compared to Obama.

re: #103 zombie

No kamikazi attacks at Pearl Harbor. Kamikazi only began as the Japanese were losing following Midway. It was seen as the only way to protect the Home Islands (Japan proper). The Japanese couldn't produce skilled pilots fast enough.

re: #101 Noam Sayin'

I don't think narcissists pay that much attention to things that don't matter to them.

Yes. He wasn't alive. So, so what?

re: #109 livefreeor die

Well, this foreign tour of his should be fun to watch.

Y'know, you've got a point. I can only imagine the gaffes he can make when he's glad-handing the troops, and then the Europeans...

But the lefties will just find it endearing.

Actually, Obama thought there were 58 or 59 states, depending upon how one interprets his quote:

"It is wonderful to be back in Oregon," Obama said. "Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it."

re: #73 Charles

Sorry, but that's not true. Dan Quayle said some of the dumbest things ever recorded by a politician. And it wasn't just a few. The reputation he had was fully deserved.

I'm not trying to bash Republicans with this, but Quayle was the ultimate empty suit.

Someone said it yesterday - yes Quayle made a ton of gaffes, in 4 years, mind you, but he never came off as dishonest or elitist. Obamessiah has said 4 years worth of stupid stuff in about 6 months, and comes off as not only the empty suit, but also as the oily politician worthy of the name Clinton. Smug, condescending, full of himself, and yet completely vapid. Ferraro said it truly; if this guy wasn't black, we wouldn't know who he was.

And Charles, you showed some excellent prescience by posting the Quayle flub - the reach of the lizardoid empire is long indeed!

re: #95 nyc redneck

this from a guy who thinks there are 57 states.
we have really dumbed down the requirements for potus.

Barbarian God-Kings don't have to be smart. They only have to nod when the Evil Grand Vizier speaks for him.

Yes ... there were no kamikaze attacks at Pearl Harbor.

I'm pretty sure BHO is historically ignorant because stuff done long ago by "dead white guys" is secretly of little or no interest to him whatsoever.

re: #109 livefreeor die

Well, this foreign tour of his should be fun to watch.

He'll have Katie, Charlie and Brian along for entertainment.

re: #103 zombie

What?

I've never heard that there were kamikaze attacks at Pearl Harbor. I thought they didn't start resorting to them until 1944.

Maybe I'm wrong -- I'm no expert on this -- but they didn't need to do kamikaze attacks on that day.

No organized Kami's against the US fleet at Pearl Harbor. There was a documented deliberate crash into one of the fleets support ships when a Japanese plane was downed by AAA.

re: #104 EC Marm

'Maui wowie'?

Kauai Electric.............but in the '70s it was "Elephant".....

re: #114 ploome hineni

he was memorizing the koran while children learn American history

he was in Indonesia

[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]

exactly,
he is ignorant of american history.

re: #103 zombie

What?

I've never heard that there were kamikaze attacks at Pearl Harbor. I thought they didn't start resorting to them until 1944.

Maybe I'm wrong -- I'm no expert on this -- but they didn't need to do kamikaze attacks on that day.

One pilot seems to have intentionally rammed his damaged plane into a Marine Corps building.

1944 was an inside job by the government, watch the newsreels. Clearly it shows that the sleeping Military personnel provoked the attack
FREE Hirohito !
No blood for VCR's and Walkman's !

(ouch that made my head hurt, how does a troofer go about life without wanting to stick a drill bit in his noggin?)

re: #103 zombie

What?

I've never heard that there were kamikaze attacks at Pearl Harbor. I thought they didn't start resorting to them until 1944.

Maybe I'm wrong -- I'm no expert on this -- but they didn't need to do kamikaze attacks on that day.

You're right. They started late in the war. Japan had some major defeats and had lost a lot of equipment and many experienced pilots. They resorted to green young men in rattletraps on suicide missions - iirc in 1944.

Perhaps it was just a flubbed joke, a la John effing Kerry.

re: #98 Charles

There is absolutely no way that a person who grew up in Hawaii could say "bomb" with no "s", without correcting it. Just no way. Unless they were simply not paying attention.

Blame it on those lousy Saudi funded schools he went to. /

re: #121 Charles

Yes ... there were no kamikaze attacks at Pearl Harbor.

[Link: ww2db.com...]

re: #115 lawhawk

I think the first kamikaze attacks were at the battle of Okinawa?

re: #6 mossley

If I was a Democrat, I'd be very embarrassed that he's supposed to be the best my party has to offer.

If you were a Democrat, no you wouldn't. You'd be fully caught up in the insipid social experiment (First Black President! First Woman President!) that other Democrats find so exciting.

re: #105 todler

re #96:

Are you thinking of Russia, China or Korea?

Of course I doubt he'd be able to get any of the 3.

Manchuria '31. Korea had been colonized since '10 the conflict with Russia in '05 at Tsushima. There was a period of relative peace and Japan joined the League of Nations. '31 and Manchuria was the first major action by Japan, and considered to be a precusor to WWII in the Pacific.

To be more precise - there were no organized kamikazi attacks or units specially organized to engage and use such tactics.

What happened at Pearl, at least according to Wiki, is that a lone pilot made the decision to fly his damaged plane into a target of convenience.

re: #126 nyc redneck

exactly,
he is ignorant of american history.

sorry, had to.

I was at Pearl Harbor in 1976. The oil was still bubbling to the surface. Last year, my daughter went to Pearl Harbor, and the oil was still bubbling to the surface. That was one hell of a (singular) bomb.

re: #133 Genosaurer

[Link: ww2db.com...]

That wasn't a kamikaze attack -- kamikaze pilots were specifically trained to commit suicide.

re: #92 IslandLibertarian

There were no Kamakazis at Pearl Harbor.
And I can see it from my office window as I type this.

True, though the mindset that gave rise to the Kamikazes was already present. Japanese pilots whose planes were crippled were expected to 'self-bomb' rather than bail out.

YO SEN. OBAMA,

We DID NOT "ADAPT" to the bombs that were dropped on Pearl Harbor, HI, which when they were dropped found my father's Older Brother Albert at Hickham, AAC, Field. Albert survived and was part of a generation that REFUSED to "Adapt." They sought out and DEFEATED the Army, Navy, and Air Arms of the Japanese Empire. That is ALL and QUITE ENOUGH!

-S-

There were midget subs inside the harbor and waves of planes dropping bombs and torpedoes [and strafing of course]... but I've never heard of kamikaze attacks that early in the war.

re: #131 psyop

Perhaps it was just a flubbed joke, a la John effing Kerry.

Ar U tryin' to say that barak obomma is gunna get stuk in eyrup?

Wonder if we'll hear from any WWII Vets about this?

Besides, everyone knows that Pearl Harbor was a controlled demolition.

re: #128 ccrnyc

1944 was an inside job by the government, watch the newsreels. Clearly it shows that the sleeping Military personnel provoked the attack
FREE Hirohito !
No blood for VCR's and Walkman's !

(ouch that made my head hurt, how does a troofer go about life without wanting to stick a drill bit in his noggin?)

Didn't Obama's mentor and pastor JW think it was an inside job?....I can't remember all the crazy things but I thought he mentioned it in one of his sermons?

re: #127 Genosaurer

One pilot seems to have intentionally rammed his damaged plane into a Marine Corps building.

True. But flying a damaged plane into a target isn't the same thing. I was wrong to refer to that as a kamikaze attack. My bad.

re: #98 Charles

There is absolutely no way that a person who grew up in Hawaii could say "bomb" with no "s", without correcting it. Just no way. Unless they were simply not paying attention.

Although it is not conclusive, his very next sentence mentions atomic bombs. After a case and a half of beer I might say something like that. If a presidential hopeful is guzzling booze to the point of verbalizing stupidity, or is being stupid without alcohol, why then is he fit for office? If he is just careless with his speech, the fundamental problem still remains—how is he fit for office?

His TV does get the History Channel, doesn't it?

re: #140 Charles

Although details have come out from some kamikaze pilots who never got a chance to carry out their mission have said that there were many "unwilling" participants in the sacred wind.

re: #103 zombie

What?

I've never heard that there were kamikaze attacks at Pearl Harbor. I thought they didn't start resorting to them until 1944.

Maybe I'm wrong -- I'm no expert on this -- but they didn't need to do kamikaze attacks on that day.

Up until the Battle of Midway the IJN had, man for man, the best naval aviators in the world. But their system was only set up to train about 200 pilots a year. Also once a pilot was sent out to the fleet he stayed there until he died. The USN on the other hand would rotate experienced pilots back to rear in order to impart the benefit of his experience on the new pilots.

My friend and I were talking and we both think the Obama Campaign should discontinue the whole "Change We Can Believe In"
to
"Belief We Can Change!"

re: #146 tedzilla99

Besides, everyone knows that Pearl Harbor was a controlled demolition an inside job.

/ Spoken like a true troofer. /

Just as Barack Hussein Obama made faces during all the time he studied the Quran as a child in Indonesia and never learned a thing about jihad, and just as he was sound asleep during the 20 years of sermons by his anti-American pastor Rev. Jeremiah God-damn-America Wright, so he must have been pre-occupied with something else during all of the history classes he had in the Hawaii school that he attended, and didn't pick up any history at all during his Marxist student years in college, or in his working years in a Marxist academic ivory tower. This man has been and still is out of touch with reality. Putting this stranger to reality in the Oval Office means playing Russian Roulette with the fate of the US.

re: #139 EC Marm

I was at Pearl Harbor in 1976. The oil was still bubbling to the surface. Last year, my daughter went to Pearl Harbor, and the oil was still bubbling to the surface. That was one hell of a (singular) bomb.

And still in 1986. I was there.

re: #108 BBev

All I want to say to Osama is this and I hope he reads it and understands it “Those that make swords into plow shears soon will be plowing for those that don’t”

Being a "progressive" means never having to pass a history class.

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

Beginning with the Pearl Harbor Attack, Japanese suicide bombers sporadically crashed their planes into the enemy as a spur-of-the-moment decision.

re: #154 EE

Just as Barack Hussein Obama made faces during all the time he studied the Quran as a child in Indonesia and never learned a thing about jihad, and just as he was sound asleep during the 20 years of sermons by his anti-American pastor Rev. Jeremiah God-damn-America Wright, so he must have been pre-occupied with something else during all of the history classes he had in the Hawaii school that he attended, and didn't pick up any history at all during his Marxist student years in college, or in his working years in a Marxist academic ivory tower. This man has been and still is out of touch with reality. Putting this stranger to reality in the Oval Office means playing Russian Roulette with the fate of the US.

With every chamber full.

re: #146 tedzilla99

Funny. Remember that Zombie interview with the code pinker in Berkeley. She said something like "...what were we doing in Hawaii anyway."

re: #150 psyop

Ick... poor sentence structure... typing too slow for speed of thoughts...

should have gone

"....out their mission. They have said..."

re: #138 VegasRick

sorry, had to.

thanks for taking care of me. what was i thinking/
;)

The conflation with Hiroshima is the most likely explanation for this. It goes with the psychology of the left, any event, any conflict, any history is always measured in terms of the harm the US did.

Obama thought BOMB was a collective noun.

Obama's Planned speech in front of Bradenburg Gate:

"We all know the tragic turn of the events between 1939 and 1945. How one man just happened to say stuff that could have been construed as contreversial and a lot of people lost their lives through no fault of their own. And how there was some angry words and junk flying through the air. The event ended when a single bomb landed in Berlin, taking out the one man. Of course did I mention that the Russians were the heros in the war? And somehow a bunch of Jews died, probably from natural causes, lead and gas are part of nature, right? And the Americans, well, the Americans sent their most brutal and ill-educated into lovely little Europe to occupy and randomly massacre the peace-loving Germans. Stupid Americans and their cowboy diplomacy........ (says Ummmm and Uhhh a lot)
Here's Scarlett Johansen to shake her boobs at you. Peace out!"

re: #78 zombie

Hmmmmm... it's getting to be an epidemic.

For all I know, Affirmative Action did play a role, but we should watch ourselves before throwing it around.

Agreed. I don't think it's "affirmative action" so much as wanting to see someone - anyone - who isn't a white male become President. I've heard "our candidates look like America" (what, there aren't any old white men in America?) too much to chalk up Obama's nomination solely to affirmative action.

re: #155 BBev

Oil continues to bubble up from the bunker tanks on the USS Arizona, and will likely do so for years to come, unless the ship itself collapses due to corrosion releasing a larger amount all at once.

re: #159 HelloDare

Funny. Remember that Zombie interview with the code pinker in Berkeley. She said something like "...what were we doing in Hawaii anyway."

You know the world has gone nuts when you can make up something off the wall like that and someone already believes it to be true.

re: #145 HelloDare

Wonder if we'll hear from any WWII Vets about this?

"H-D" -

Most of the Vets of WWII are gone. They did what was needed/expected at the time. For what it is worth - My Uncle Albert was one of the folks that made Matsushita/Panasonic into a real Brand Name on the US East Coast after the war. He had No Hate of Japan or the Japanese after hostilities ceased.

-S-

re: #23 flipflop

Eh, I have a hard time getting worked up over this one when there's so much else about Obama to get worked up about. I'm pretty sure Obama knows Pearl Harbor and all those ships there weren't taken out by a single bomb.

Agreed. This one seems a bit ridiculous to be carping about.

As bad as Pearl Harbor was, it could of been a hell of a lot worse. All of the battleships sunk were obsolete. No US carriers were hit. the Fuel tanks were missed. Most of the fleet was undamaged except for the obsolete battleships. IJN admits that they would not have recovered to a similar attack as fast as the USN. God bless our boys at Pearl Harbor.

re: #115 lawhawk

No kamikazi attacks at Pearl Harbor. Kamikazi only began as the Japanese were losing following Midway. It was seen as the only way to protect the Home Islands (Japan proper). The Japanese couldn't produce skilled pilots fast enough.

Kamikaze attacks early in the war were limited those pilots who were too injured to live long or whose planes were no longer capable of returning them to their base/carrier/airfield. If I remember correctly, there was no organized kamikaze until the end of 1944 with the Battle of Leyte Gulf.

Basically it doesn't matter what Obama does or says. Democrats will vote for him anyway. I sit in silence and listen to the foolishness that comes out of the mouths of my colleagues at work. They think he is adorable. Several of them even thought his caricature on the cover of The New Yorker was "cute". Geesh.

re: #5 livefreeor die
Its Columbia. Are you really suprised at what type of idiots come out of there.

I wish somebody would ask Obama if he has any Hawaiian money in his wallet, see what he says.

ROFL. Sure he probably meant the "bombs" that fell but it's still funny. The media loved Dan Quail for similar misstatements didn't they? :)

re: #172 Bobblehead

Dear God!

This is a non starter folks. With all that's wrong with this moron, jumping on this non event is a waste of effort. He needs only to say " BombS, I said bombS, or certainly clearly meant to. Jumping on this as a gaffe simply points out the pettiness, and desperation of my conservative opponents."

And he'd appear to be right.

re: #159 HelloDare

Funny. Remember that Zombie interview with the code pinker in Berkeley. She said something like "...what were we doing in Hawaii anyway."

"What was Custer doing in Montana?"

/moonbat

What about the bomb that fell in the Battle of Britain?

Aloha, Obama.

Dunno... sounds like he's the right candidate for his party. Seems to fit in so well.

re: #10 jaunte

There is a chance that he meant to say 'bombs' but dropped an s.

That does not matter. After 8+ years of Bush NEVER getting the benefit of the doubt this idiot is not getting one inch of slack.

re: #73 Charles

Said yes,
[Link: www.juntosociety.com...]

did no!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Missing is his near single-handed support and funding as a Senator and the VP for the GPS system of satellites in use today causing VP Gore to jealously proclaim, "Well, I invented the Internet" during the 1992 election.

re: #177 M. Bensson-Levi

This is a non starter folks. With all that's wrong with this moron, jumping on this non event is a waste of effort. He needs only to say " BombS, I said bombS, or certainly clearly meant to. Jumping on this as a gaffe simply points out the pettiness, and desperation of my conservative opponents."

And he'd appear to be right.

So when the media jump on Bush's gaffes are they being petty and desparate?

No time for History, plenty of time for Community Organization.
No time for Patraeus, plenty of time for Ayers.
No time for McCain, plenty of time for Amanonajihad.

When's he going to make time for America ?

Anyone that would vote for this clown is even more ignorant than he is.

/pissed off

It is obvious Obama's disdain for Military History is a disaster waiting to happen. We can not afford another Clinton Style Holiday From History.

Sme reporter should ask him the lesson he takes away from WAKE. I would guess the lesson would be a blank stare.

re: #5 livefreeor die

And how did this guy get out of Columbia with a degree?

He is black, that absolves him of having to meet any academic standards at all. He would, and could, not be denied a degree. Political correctness has robbed honest, accomplished blacks of receiving their full due and respect for work well done because of so many phoney degrees handed out to unqualified people based on race alone and not performance. That is truly repugnant.

re: #184 kansas

So when the media jump on Bush's gaffes are they being petty and desparate?

Yes

re: #162 Thanos

The conflation with Hiroshima is the most likely explanation for this. It goes with the psychology of the left, any event, any conflict, any history is always measured in terms of the harm the US did.

That was my first impression too. "The bomb" is a subconscious reference to "the atomic bomb."

This guy wants to be the president of the US, but he's almost completely ignorant of US history. He's demonstrated this ignorance over and over.

He's the Hollywood candidate.

re: #161 nyc redneck

thanks for taking care of me. what was i thinking/
;)

re: #191 FrogMarch

He's the Hollywood candidate.

The "American Idol" candidate.

re: #8 paint-right

That was my first thought. But I mean come on, I knew about Pearl Harbor when I was ten and there was no History Channel back then. This guy is a poser. He is a mile wide and an inch deep. He can't keep this facade up much longer...can he?

Charles, in your expert opinion, is that photo at Obama Ignorance Watch photoshopped?

O is so relative about history. It's small comfort Mr. O that Americans can adapt to oppression, lawnessness, and a bomb falling on Hawaii. Adapting is the soft-underbell of surrender.

re: #128 ccrnyc

(ouch that made my head hurt, how does a troofer go about life without wanting to stick a drill bit in his noggin?)

Oh, and here I thought that was what made them troofers...

re: #177 M. Bensson-Levi

This is a non starter folks. With all that's wrong with this moron, jumping on this non event is a waste of effort. He needs only to say " BombS, I said bombS, or certainly clearly meant to. Jumping on this as a gaffe simply points out the pettiness, and desperation of my conservative opponents."

And he'd appear to be right.

It might seem a little petty to you, but the point is Obama does not know what he is talking about, he never has, and probably never will. Another Al Gore, whining about global warming whilst flying around in G-V's. Liberal A/C rule number one: 74 for Al Gore, 76 for all the hicks...

re: #184 kansas

So when the media jump on Bush's gaffes are they being petty and desparate?

What do you think?

We KNOW that they're a pack of morons. There's only a SUSPICION that some of us are. Let's not remove all doubt.

re: #89 The Other Les

I did NOT use that word, someone inserted that into a paragraph that quoted my quote. It was not indented thus it appeared as part of what i said

Repeat, I did not say that, for the record

At least he didn't say it was the Germans who bombed Pearl Harbor. (Seven years of college, shot.)

re: #188 nadadhimmi

...that absolves him of having to meet any academic standards at all.

That comment was over the top. I do not agree with that one bit.

re: #11 freetoken

Yeah, but ol'Dan just got tongue tied. This guy is worse.

(3 years living in Honolulu)

Someone like Obama's mother wouldn't have a flea-flicking interest in Pearl Harbor. Neither would any capital-LLL Liberal living in Hawaii. Obaby's family would have passed that attitude on. I'll bet the rent money he didn't learn squat from his family about what happened on Dec. 7th.

It's like Waikiki, strictly for (GAH!) tourists.

re: #169 The Kevin Show

Agreed. This one seems a bit ridiculous to be carping about.

It would be ridiculous if it were an isolated incident, but the body of evidence continues to show that this man is not very bright.

re: #182 kahall

The significant part of the quote is that it appears he was so eager to get to the nuclear annihilation part (blame the US) that he sped through the Pearl Harbor part. I'm happy to use my vote to cancel out one Obama voter.

He probably was just bring sensitive to the Japanese and didn't want to call it the sneak attack by the Japanese Imperial Fleet on Pearl Harbour, just tripping over his own over developed PC schlong....Nah...well maybe... or he is just a big dofuss.

Regardless of where he is deficient, I'll bet you though that he knows that the Weathermen and his Commie proto sponser Bill Ayers set off more than one bomb.

re: #199 paint-right

I did NOT use that word, someone inserted that into a paragraph that quoted my quote. It was not indented thus it appeared as part of what i said

Repeat, I did not say that, for the record

Okay. But would you say that The Guru had a valid point?

Whether he can cover himself by saying he meant "bombS" or not, there is a fundamental problem. Most everyone's take on what he said is that he implied that Hawaii was nuked. However you wish to slice that unhistorical statement, it makes Obama look like he has little command of major events in his own country's history. Sure anyone could make a gaffe like that, but it seems to be a trend.

re: #190 Charles

This guy wants to be the president of the US, but he's almost completely ignorant of US history. He's demonstrated this ignorance over and over.

You're absolutely correct, but this is not the statement to flog.

re: #190 Charles

Charles -

As Historic Accident would have it, Harry S. Truman became President of the US as "the Bomb" became operational. As a Captain of Artillery in WWI, President Truman saw it as a "Bigger Bang" Weapon that might end the war as he was never advised otherwise. In his Ignorance, he Just Might have guessed right.

-S-

Reading this thread and watching Ninja Warrior on the G4 cable channel. That really is the best show on TV these days. Especially with the play-by-play guy screaming in Japanese in the background.

re: #178 The Other Les

"What was Custer doing in Montana?"

Sue th' bastard!

/sorry ... impossible to resist

re: #1 vapig

How did this guy get into Columbia?

Uh, hello? You're not allowed to ask that.

Obama dumb. Merci beaucoup.

I totally figured this out.

Barry was thinking of the old Gap song.

re: #205 jaunte

The significant part of the quote is that it appears he was so eager to get to the nuclear annihilation part (blame the US) that he sped through the Pearl Harbor part. I'm happy to use my vote to cancel out one Obama voter.

and made a Freudian slip in his rush

RE: 201, His ignorance on nearly every subject proves my statement. The Mess-iah is the least learned man to ever run for the presidency. With a worthless degree no less. Come on, my 10 ye old son knows better than O.

re: #213 kevinmumaw

HA, I use that all the time now.
Merci beaucoup, good for any occasion.
Besides, they're just words.

So all in all, I'm considering a bumper sticker :
OBAMA?
You can't be serious.

...but I think my car will get keyed.......

re: #33 VegasRick

Everybody knows that the Germans dropped the bomb on Pearl Harbor.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

re: #214 Catttt

I totally figured this out.

Barry was thinking of the old Gap song.

Beat ya by a couple

re: #197 LoFlyer

...the point is Obama does not know what he is talking about, he never has, and probably never will.

I'm in complete agreement, but this is not the issue to point to and say " Ah ha!" There are too many others, substantial ones, and there will be many more to come. Harping on this is wasting ammo...and credibility.

That sanctimonious son of a bitch

Sorry, I finally have to say it

Ew - don't watch the pictures - just listen to the song. Didn't actually watch - just listened - to my selection. Now that I think of it thoough, Senator O mixed nuclear bombs with Pearl Harbor, yes? Still - creepy pictures.

East Wind. Rain.

2,400 died so that Obama could forget.

re: #218 IslandLibertarian

So all in all, I'm considering a bumper sticker :
OBAMA?
You can't be serious.

...but I think my car will get keyed.......

Annoying, isn't it. Exactly why I don't put one on any of mine.

re: #219 VegasRick

Beat ya by a couple

I searched for The Gap. I assume you didn't include Gap. Tisk tisk tisk. /

Obama sounds like a Jaywalk Allstar. Is Leno still doing that bit?

I think in his mind he was trying to get around to a narrative about Hiroshima but scratched it after his slip with "the bomb". His stated goal is to get rid of all nuclear weps, and I could see him scrambling to get to an angle where he could fit that in.

re: #225 Catttt

I searched for The Gap. I assume you didn't include Gap. Tisk tisk tisk. /

"You Burned Rubber On Me?"

Maybe I should 'adapt' to the WTC attack.

/ FUCK THAT!

...and then this one time... at band camp... a plane crashed into the world trade center...

Count me with those who view this error as inconsequential. It's in the same league as McCain referring to Czechoslovakia, which ceased to exist some years ago. Noticeable, but not very important. Speculation about him conflating the bombing of Pearl Harbor w/ the dropping of the atom bomb is just that: speculation.

Also, "the bomb that fell" is not a passive voice construction. Passive voice verbs consist of a form of the verb "to be" plus a past participle. "The bomb was dropped" would be a passive voice construction.

Anybody that votes for this asshole is a real asshole!

re: #207 The Other Les

To have come around to thinking that Pearl Harbor was retaliation for the Abomb is wild but not the first erroneous comment that I have heard.

Example: That John the Baptist wrote the Gospel of John in the Bible. (John the Baptist had been beheaded well before the end of Jesus' life) It was written by the Apostle john, a deciple.

Example: Mohammed was born way before Jesus. ( born in 570 )

/not injecting religion, just reporting on two wrong things I heard that jumped out at me. Many people just "assume ' things as if their whole education is hearsay.

Lying, dissembling Democratic politician - this I fully accepted. I really had no appreciation how young and just plain ignorant he is. What's next, I wonder....

...or was it two? i get so confused about these things!

I think the guy is a moron. He proves this point in the same paragraph of this speech saying we've "adapted". I haven't adapted, have you adapted? Unless "adapting" is code for sending in our brave men in uniform to kick (insert not lady like word here), I have not adapted!

re: #191 FrogMarch

He's the Hollywood candidate.

"F-M" -

YEAH, AND? -S-

re: #231 JustMyView

If I say Yugoslavia or Constantinople, I mean that. You may surmise I mean to offend.

I don't think Obama was attempting to reference Hiroshima. He begins by saying

Throughout our history, America’s confronted constantly evolving danger

and then proceeds to list said dangers.

re: #231 JustMyView

I guess you missed my post about going to A&M...

/ =)

In an Obama administration, would they recall all the textbooks? You know, the way they erased speeches about troop withdrawal from his website.

The thing is, there is a body of people in this country that don't care that Senator O is an ignorant, snobbish, poorly read, self-centered empty suit. They'll kiss his ass anyway. (Sorry, but that's what they're doing.)

The vids of his various "misspeaks" show a tolerant, tut tutting audience saying nothing - doing nothing - not even rolling their eyes when he says there are 57 continental US states. He probably still thinks there are 59 states, because no one wants to tell his royal wonderfulness.

I'm waiting for the kid to come out and ask why the emperor is naked.

pimf. disciple

Dan Qualye was my senator when I lived in Indiana. He was no dummy. He was not a good "off the cuff" speaker but then neither was the senior President Bush. His knowledge of weapons systems was impressive. Also, you have to remember he was a decent man with a nice family and that made him a prime target for the drive-bys.

Americans have adapted to the threats posed by an ever-changing world

The real test of our survival begins the moment this idiot takes the oath of office

Unfortunately, to about 30+% of voters it matters not one whit what Obama mistates, gaffes, advocates, or promises: they'll vote for him because he's not the Republican, just as I will vote for McCain because he's not the Democrat. It's that leftover % for whom mistatements and positions make any difference whatsoever.

re: #228 VegasRick

"You Burned Rubber On Me?"

Never. I drive like an old lady. :D

Would the honorable Stinky Beaumont please strike "the bomb that fell" from the record?

/

re: #230 bitsy

...and then this one time... at band camp... a plane crashed into the world trade center...

you know the week after 9-11 our oldest son david told us he was going to ground zero to help out..He was there for about 10 days and brought home a ton of pics..
very moving

Fully explains the need for 300 foreign affairs advisors. Hey, Obama, if it is not written on the sheet of paper that we have handed to you. Do not, I repeat, do not say it.

re: #242 Catttt

The thing is, there is a body of people in this country that don't care that Senator O is an ignorant, snobbish, poorly read, self-centered empty suit. They'll kiss his ass anyway. (Sorry, but that's what they're doing.)

The vids of his various "misspeaks" show a tolerant, tut tutting audience saying nothing - doing nothing - not even rolling their eyes when he says there are 57 continental US states. He probably still thinks there are 59 states, because no one wants to tell his royal wonderfulness.

I'm waiting for the kid to come out and ask why the emperor is naked.

Careful - if he's elected you'll end up in his gulag - er - re-education camp.

Lesson #42152465 in appeasement:

Though the Bush administration appears to be making a late adjustment to its Iran policy, there was little evidence of a gentler Iranian attitude toward the United States at weekly prayers Friday.

At Iran's 1,500th Friday prayer session since the sermons resumed after the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami gave a typically fiery speech. Worshipers chanted slogans likening the U.S. to the Roman Empire and punctuated the sermon with cries of "Death to America!"

The U.S. this week announced it would send an envoy to talks today between European and Iranian negotiators over Iran's nuclear program. Hints increased that the U.S. may be interested in setting up a diplomatic outpost in Iran beyond the tiny Swiss-run interests section it now maintains.

re: #246 StinkHammer

Unfortunately, to about 30+% of voters it matters not one whit what Obama mistates, gaffes, advocates, or promises: they'll vote for him because he's not the Republican, just as I will vote for McCain because he's not the Democrat. It's that leftover % for whom mistatements and positions make any difference whatsoever.

Now you're making a moral equivalence argument.

We are so screwed if Scary Barry Obummer is elected. There are a number of stunts that an Obummer administration, along with the Dem-controlled Congress, could pull that would greatly exacerbate existing problems as well as the existing cultural divides:

* A "war crimes" show trial of Bush and Cheney

* Shutting down dissent via the "Fairness Doctrine"

* Economically disastrous tax increases and "green" programs

* Attacking the Second Amendment

* Losing in Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East

* A major terror attack in the US and an inadequate response on the part of the administration

* Maybe scariest of all, the creation of that "civilian security force" and the havoc it would raise

Enough of these happen in sufficient severity and you have the ingredient of serious societal breakdown and very possibly American Civil War II, esp if Obummer's shock troops attempt to confiscate weapons en masse.

Charles -

WOW! Tammy Bruce is now substituting for Laura Ingraham on WABC Radio - 770 AM. She is pointing out that today the difference is NOT between JFK and Nixon, a difference of degree - it is between a difference of World View. Tammy is usually right.

-S-

re: #227 Thanos

I think in his mind he was trying to get around to a narrative about Hiroshima but scratched it after his slip with "the bomb". His stated goal is to get rid of all nuclear weps, and I could see him scrambling to get to an angle where he could fit that in.

If one properly acknowledges the fact that the Japanese air strikes on the U. S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor were a wrongful act of aggression then the whole premise behind present day peace activism is rendered false. Thus the need to constantly rewrite or utterly history.

re: #98 Charles

Maybe he believes that the U.S. nuked Iwo Jima ?
With such a convoluted sense of American history who knows what he thinks?
I fear that this empty suit will be elected our nation's leader.

re: #252 lawhawk

You know, I heard Condi Rice on Hannity yesterday? The day before? Doesn't matter. Her stance was they were only going to retrieve the response to our demands on their Nukes. No diplomacy (direct or indirect), no love fest. I really hope her statements are the accurate view. Or we are getting ready to set up the mother of all covert operations starting with getting a foot in the door.

re: #252 lawhawk

Lesson #42152465 in appeasement:

Good point - from the linked article above regarding the USA Today article:

Omar2 wrote: 12h 2m ago
Because islam is not simply a religion, mosques are not simply places of worship. Every islamic community of any size has sought to create a parallel legal system for its follwers under shariah. Quite simply, islam is not willing to accept a subordinate position for its laws vis a vis the infidel country in which it may find itself. This demand for parallel legal structures based on Shariah is often accompanied with acts of terror and, and once the islmic concentration is large enough, follow demands for a separate islamic state.

This is a much more thorough, honest, article about the issues raised in this article:

[Link: www.spiegel.de...]

And here's a quote from the most influential islamic organization in the world, parent organization of every major, mainstream islamic group in america including CAIR, ISNA and MAS:

"The process of settlement [of Islam in the United States] is a "Civilization-Jihadist" process with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that all their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" their miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who choose to slack."

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

re: #249 HoosierHoops

I didn't mean it as a diss to 9/11. About half the time I read quotes from BO I hear the voice of that girl from American Pie.

/guess it wasn't funny if I had to 'splain

re: #103 zombie

You're not wrong. Torpedoes and armor-piercing bombs were the order of the day -- and if they had made a second run at Pearl instead of sailing off into the sunset, I'd expect that most of Eastern Asia would be speaking Japanese.

Thankfully, they didn't... but what they did was just enough to piss off the Jacksonians.

Walter Lord did the tally in his book Day of Infamy. Of 99 warships in the harbor, 9 were total write-offs, including Arizona and two destroyers in the drydock next to Pennsylvania, the fleet flagship. The remaining ships, including most of the BBs, were repaired and returned to the fleet. Most of those killed in the attack were on Arizona.... and they're still there.

And Obama grew up next door to this and doesn't know it. I really didn't expect that he'd make Dan Quayle look that good.

Obambi spent all his affirmative action college time learning how to speak, not what to say. He really is pretty ignorant.

Democrats, raise taxes, fund socialism and gun control. It's all they know. It's up to you to connect the dots.

re: #254 neocon hippie

We are so screwed if Scary Barry Obummer is elected. There are a number of stunts that an Obummer administration, along with the Dem-controlled Congress, could pull that would greatly exacerbate existing problems as well as the existing cultural divides:

* A "war crimes" show trial of Bush and Cheney

* Shutting down dissent via the "Fairness Doctrine"

* Economically disastrous tax increases and "green" programs

* Attacking the Second Amendment

* Losing in Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East

* A major terror attack in the US and an inadequate response on the part of the administration

* Maybe scariest of all, the creation of that "civilian security force" and the havoc it would raise

Enough of these happen in sufficient severity and you have the ingredient of serious societal breakdown and very possibly American Civil War II, esp if Obummer's shock troops attempt to confiscate weapons en masse.

They can have my gun when they pry is from my cold dead hand.

re: #244 Bobblehead

Dan Qualye was my senator when I lived in Indiana. He was no dummy. He was not a good "off the cuff" speaker but then neither was the senior President Bush. His knowledge of weapons systems was impressive. Also, you have to remember he was a decent man with a nice family and that made him a prime target for the drive-bys.

I agree. Quayle was certainly no genius, but neither was he a complete dolt. The circumstances surrounding the overhyped (and ridiculed by pop media) Murphy Brown incident were just that -- overhyped. And Quayle's (unelegant) point was eventually proven correct: That children simply do better (behaviorally, psycologically, educationally, etc.) when provided with both a mother and father in their household. For whatever other gaffes he may have committed, the bad rap that was thrust upon him for that incident was certainly undeserved.

Remember when a reporter quizzed Bush about foreign leaders. Quiz for Obama:

1. There are ______ states in the United States of America.

2. The Second Amendment protects our right to ________.

3. Jack Kennedy had his ________ handed to him in the Kennedy/Khrushchev debates.

4. Pear Harbor was attacked by

a. Bees
b. The Japanese
c. Howard the Duck

re: #236 ArmyWife

I think the guy is a moron. He proves this point in the same paragraph of this speech saying we've "adapted". I haven't adapted, have you adapted? Unless "adapting" is code for sending in our brave men in uniform to kick (insert not lady like word here), I have not adapted!

I think we adapted at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Obama: The Gift That Keeps On Giving.

re: #254 neocon hippie

A "war crimes" show trial of Bush and Cheney

Ain't gonna happen.

Shutting down dissent via the "Fairness Doctrine"

Ain't gonna happen.

Economically disastrous tax increases and "green" programs

That's gonna happen.

Attacking the Second Amendment

There might be some stricter gun control laws but overall gun owners will be safe.

Losing in Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East

Ain't gonna happen. The war is already won, even Obama is talking about "residual forces" that will insure Iraq stays stable.

A major terror attack in the US and an inadequate response on the part of the administration

Might happen.

Maybe scariest of all, the creation of that "civilian security force" and the havoc it would raise

Ain't gonna happen.