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Overnight Open Thread

Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:55:58 pm PDT

Too many people expect wonders from democracy, when the most wonderful thing of all is just having it.

Walter Winchell

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1 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 8:57:37pm

I am Mandy!

2 Catttt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 8:59:22pm

I am Mandy.

3 Hard Right  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 8:59:50pm

I am a meat popscicle.

4 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:00:09pm

I am Mandy.

5 BignJames  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:00:24pm

I am incoherent.

6 winston06  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:00:48pm

have a good night folks

7 daledog  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:00:57pm

Amen Mr. Winchell.

8 xb80  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:01:10pm

I am Drunk!

Isn't this nation a Republic?

It's hard to tell these days.

9 Mich-again  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:01:23pm

Life is what happens on all those days that weren't special occasions.

10 yochanan  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:01:24pm

we are all mandy

I AM MANDY

11 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:02:02pm

re: #9 Mich-again

I thought life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.

12 Ojoe  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:02:41pm

I am Mandy

(Wheee! very different.)

Good night all

13 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:02:55pm

re: #9 Mich-again

Life is what happens on all those days that weren't special occasions.

You mean like my niece's wedding yesterday?

14 PSGInfinity  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:04:13pm

I am Mandy. I am also tired, so g'nite Lizards!

15 snowcrash  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:05:06pm

re: #2 Catttt
Just finished playing Super Bounce Out. Fun!

16 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:06:34pm

I am Mandy!

/at work and sober. What did I just jump into by the way. :)

17 Mich-again  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:06:50pm

re: #13 solomonpanting

Shweet. How many people came and did you dance to any Bob Seger songs?

18 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:07:55pm

re: #16 BlueCanuck
Some troll was after Mandy on the last thread. He already got the stick.

19 Cognito  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:08:44pm

What a champion quote.

Not bad for a gossip reporter.

;)

20 Macker  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:09:45pm

Is Mandy the Final Cylon?

21 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:10:32pm

re: #16 BlueCanuck

I am Mandy!

/at work and sober. What did I just jump into by the way. :)

Troll thread back, took out after Mandy......

22 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:11:37pm

re: #18 Pvt Bin Jammin

A troll after Mandy? The poor soul. Obviously he wasn't around long enough to know not to go after her.

/seen her smack downs, even with fellow lizards.

23 Occasional Reader  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:12:27pm

I yam what I yam.

24 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:12:49pm

Yeah, I like Mandy too, but now I've got that damned Manilow song going on in my head and it won't go away.........."Oh Mandy.........."

/we all love one another, right?

25 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:13:25pm

re: #22 BlueCanuck
One of those sleeper trolls, less than 100 posts.

26 Occasional Reader  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:13:49pm
27 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:13:56pm

I want to be the inspector of slave girls that turns out not to be a dud eunach.

28 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:14:06pm

re: #20 Macker

Is Mandy the Final Cylon?

I'm thinking Starbuck........gosh I'm such a nerd.

29 Catttt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:14:23pm

re: #26 Occasional Reader

I am, I said.

Oh, no! Not that!

30 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:14:39pm

re: #24 IslandLibertarian
Same here. I almost posted it but then didn't want everybody hearing that song in their head all night. LOL

31 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:15:00pm

Or was that turned to be a ? oh hell g'nite ladies.

32 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:15:20pm

As the sun sets gently over the Pacific, we bid farewell to the smoldering wreckage of the last thread...

33 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:15:27pm

re: #26 Occasional Reader

I am, I said.

I like Neil's "Love on the Rocks" skins up your butt.

34 tradewind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:15:37pm

So..... we're going for a writ of Mandymus.
Well done!

35 rightwinger3  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:16:07pm

re: #24 IslandLibertarian

Yeah, I like Mandy too, but now I've got that damned Manilow song going on in my head and it won't go away.........."Oh Mandy.........."

/we all love one another, right?

Everything was going along well, until I read your post. Now? I'll go to bed hearing that song over and over.

36 steve  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:16:30pm

"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want."

37 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:16:31pm

re: #17 Mich-again

I'd guess seventy to eighty people at the event. No Bob Seger, but I was the guy at my table "selected" by the others to, uh, um, peform a five second Chippendales-type routine for the bride who was seated in the middle of the floor. You have no idea how conflicted I was to make a fool of myself.

38 yesandno  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:16:33pm

Democracy is a time that has not yet come. It requires the acceptence of reponsibility for one's vote that should extend further then skin deep. In this election coming up, how are the blind to choose?

.

39 Cognito  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:16:41pm

My keen powers of observation tell me there's been a disturbance in LGFland.

40 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:17:23pm

re: #27 lifeofthemind

I want to be the inspector of slave girls that turns out not to be a dud eunach.

The piano has been drinking...

41 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:17:29pm

re: #34 tradewind

So..... we're going for a writ of Mandymus.
Well done!

Pops back in
San Dimas? Waterslide!

42 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:18:03pm

re: #35 rightwinger3

so......stay up, put on some Stones, "Can't You Hear Me Knockin'" should do the trick.......tequila, straight up, ice water back...you'll be fine.......

43 tradewind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:18:15pm

re: #39 Cognito

Some troll pushing MandyManners to the brink...

44 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:18:20pm

Um, why is everbody Mandy?!

45 Charles  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:18:21pm

I'm going to start deleting spinoff links about that ridiculous, delusional "Obama's birth certificate is forged" story. This has gone way past stupid and into conspiracy theory territory.

46 big L  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:18:21pm

so Today, Sunday I am listening on Cable news and the female anchor says, "lets go to 'so-and-so',who is travelling with the Obama Campaign in Iraq...Bob what was President Obama doing today in Iraq..."
that is what I heard, I think, I heard that as there was a lot of laughter and talking over each other after that...

so the enemedia is working on it. Too bad there are such really stupid people with these high pd jobs.
Wait til they see what that jug-eared dope is going to do to their paychecks, marxist nincompoop.

47 ecor1  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:18:22pm

i think charles needs to revise his headline about non peer review of the monckton paper. he is doing a disservice by saying it was not peer reviewed

the actual review can be seen here, in case someone has missed it

[Link: www.webcommentary.com...]

the only question is who asked for this reviewer: Lord monckton or the APS

by the way the reviewer is an APS member

48 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:18:22pm

re: #39 Cognito

My keen powers of observation tell me there's been a disturbance in LGFland.

A mere ripple.

49 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:18:30pm

re: #39 Cognito
Yes, be very, very careful now. We are all Mandys. LOL

50 Charles  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:19:06pm

re: #47 ecor1

i think charles needs to revise his headline about non peer review of the monckton paper. he is doing a disservice by saying it was not peer reviewed

the actual review can be seen here, in case someone has missed it

[Link: www.webcommentary.com...]

the only question is who asked for this reviewer: Lord monckton or the APS

by the way the reviewer is an APS member

The article was not peer reviewed. If you keep posting this, you're going to lose your account.

51 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:19:08pm

I am Mandy

52 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:19:12pm

re: #44 realwest

Um, why is everbody Mandy?!

Some troll decided to take a swipe at Mandy.
Bad move.

53 Mich-again  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:19:20pm

re: #37 solomonpanting

but I was the guy at my table "selected" by the others to, uh, um, peform a five second Chippendales-type routine for the bride who was seated in the middle of the floor.

Anyone could do that for 5 seconds. Ha.

54 Capitalistincharge  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:19:36pm

Yes, troll on last thread caused all lizards to become one with Mandy.

55 rightwinger3  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:19:39pm

re: #42 IslandLibertarian

so......stay up, put on some Stones, "Can't You Hear Me Knockin'" should do the trick.......tequila, straight up, ice water back...you'll be fine.......

I may have to...I hate Manilow and not just his music.

56 Occasional Reader  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:19:44pm

re: #44 realwest

Um, why is everbody Mandy?!

We just want to feel pretty. Is that too much to ask?!

57 big L  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:20:00pm

resistance is futile,you will be assimilated...we are
the Mandy-borg...

58 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:20:12pm

re: #56 Occasional Reader

We just want to feel pretty. Is that too much to ask?!

And fluff the cashmere.

59 big L  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:20:28pm

And I don't even know what is going on...

60 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:20:34pm

As much as I would like to be a Mandy you all do NOT want to see me in a dress.

61 steve  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:20:36pm

the main dangers in this life are the people who want to change everything...or nothing

Lady Astor

62 SpartanWoman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:20:51pm

re: #45 Charles

I'm going to start deleting spinoff links about that ridiculous, delusional "Obama's birth certificate is forged" story. This has gone way past stupid and into conspiracy theory territory.

Great news!

63 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:21:07pm

re: #44 realwest
First he went after Mandy. Then made another rude swipe at "all of the Mandys".

64 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:21:20pm

re: #58 JCM

And fluff the cashmere.

Glenn ...or Glenda?

65 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:21:20pm

re: #60 FurryOldGuyJeans

As much as I would like to be a Mandy you all do NOT want to see me in a dress.

And how would you know how you look in a dress?
/ ;-P

66 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:21:51pm

re: #52 JCM
Where? I mean, where is the trolls body or body parts laid out?!

67 Mr Pancakes  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:22:05pm

re: #56 Occasional Reader

We just want to feel pretty. Is that too much to ask?!

No it's not.

Play Mandy for me....... sorry Misty.

68 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:22:11pm

re: #65 JCM

And how would you know how you look in a dress?
/ ;-P

Because I have worn a dress. Any other stupid questions?

///

69 Capitalistincharge  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:22:17pm

re: #65 JCM
hahahahahahahahahahahahah...snort..hahahahahah

70 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:22:21pm

re: #66 realwest

Where? I mean, where is the trolls body or body parts laid out?!

Spread all over the last thread. Ripped up a bit at a time.

71 Charles  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:22:24pm

Is there a full moon tonight or something?

72 RememberSekhmet?  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:22:41pm

I am Mandy,

No really, I am. Not the Mandy, but a Mandy.

73 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:22:44pm

I am Mandy

in sensible shoes.

74 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:08pm

re: #63 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hi ya PBJ!
WHO DID and where PBJ?

75 Carridine  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:09pm

I thought it was because Mandy got NICE lungs...

76 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:09pm

re: #54 Capitalistincharge

Yes, troll on last thread caused all lizards to become one with Mandy.

No wonder I have been having this strange urge to *whack* people.

/wonder if I should follow through. Oh minion, yes you minion. . . . . .

77 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:18pm

re: #66 realwest

Where? I mean, where is the trolls body or body parts laid out?!

Last thread nic of brinks, 4 year old reg and under a hundred posts.
Not enough left to make sausage.
Stinky put it out of it's misery.

78 tradewind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:22pm

re: #45 Charles

Good idea.... before you know it, some troll will jump in with the ' McCain's not a natural born citizen' schtick and the whole thing goes downhill.

79 big L  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:26pm

71 charles, there was last night! a big fat one.

80 JeremyR  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:32pm

re: #71 Charles

Is there a full moon tonight or something?

NO, I have my belt on....

81 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:32pm

re: #68 FurryOldGuyJeans

Because I have worn a dress. Any other stupid questions?

///

ROFLMAO!

82 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:33pm

re: #66 realwest

Where? I mean, where is the trolls body or body parts laid out?!

I don't know if you'd find much.
The Weapon Of Dumbass Destruction is rather "comprehensive."

83 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:23:39pm

re: #73 itellu3times

I am Mandy

in sensible shoes.

I was going to use an avatar like yours at one time. Except at the bottom it had MARXISM in big letters.

84 Charles  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:24:24pm

In fact, ecor is now blocked. I'm getting very sick of zealots posting disinformation.

85 gmsc  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:24:36pm

Obama gaffe alert!

Today on CBS's Face the Nation, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., in Afghanistan, told the paparazzi-pursued correspondent Lara Logan that "the objective of this trip was to have substantive discussions with people like President Karzai or Prime Minister Maliki or President Sarkozy or others who I expect to be dealing with over the next eight to 10 years.

86 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:24:47pm

re: #77 JCM Ah, good ole Stinky! Thanks.
How are you doing tonight JCM?

87 The Other Les  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:24:47pm

re: #71 Charles

Is there a full moon tonight or something?

Missed it by a couple of days.

88 Yankee Division Son  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:24:57pm

26 hours now, it's still up

89 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:25:02pm

re: #77 JCM

Last thread nic of brinks, 4 year old reg and under a hundred posts.
Not enough left to make sausage.
Stinky put it out of it's misery.

At least for now. Blocked

90 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:25:08pm

re: #71 Charles

I know there was one a couple of nights ago. Call it a lingering after effect.

/or there's a lot of people breaking the Iron Fist rule.

91 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:25:17pm

re: #82 Dar ul Harb

Not even enough left for a car swarm, really.

92 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:25:27pm

re: #71 Charles

Is there a full moon tonight or something?

Here's what my computer says:

bash-3.1$ pom
The Moon is Waning Gibbous (92% of Full)
bash-3.1$

93 The Other Les  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:26:08pm

re: #85 gmsc

Obama gaffe alert!

That's an old one.

94 Cognito  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:26:25pm

re: #84 Charles

In fact, ecor is now blocked. I'm getting very sick of zealots posting disinformation.

I was just trying to sort out whether ecor is a zealot, or simply doesn't understand what 'peer review' means, regarding the science journals.

95 SpartanWoman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:26:41pm

re: #83 Mars Needs Neocons

Some blog you got there!

96 The Other Les  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:27:11pm

re: #87 The Other Les

Missed it by a couple of days.

Forgot the link.

[Link: aa.usno.navy.mil...]

97 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:27:11pm

re: #83 Mars Needs Neocons

I was going to use an avatar like yours at one time. Except at the bottom it had MARXISM in big letters.

You could still use John Lennon.

I wanted to use one of the Tenniel's illustrations, but I couldn't find one that looked good shrunk to avatar size, so ... I have no idea how I ended up with this instead, and how that elephant got into my pajamas I'll never know!

98 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:27:39pm

re: #85 gmsc 8-10 years? That must mean either that he's hoping those "other" 7 states help push through a constitutional amendment or we now know why he wants a Civilian Defense Corps the same size and as well armed as the US Military!
What an absolute Putz.

99 tradewind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:27:42pm

re: #85 gmsc

And here the nutroots have been theorizing that Bush will suspend the election and try to stay in office.......

100 Macker  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:28:09pm

re: #63 Pvt Bin Jammin

First he went after Mandy. Then made another rude swipe at "all of the Mandys".

Who is this asshole of which you speak?

101 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:28:23pm

re: #95 SpartanWoman

Some blog you got there!

Read the first word of each sentence. Haven't gotten around to changing it after the first joke. Just got boring after a while and haven't had the urge to start again. (had a pretty good one thought up that used the second word of every sentence in reverse)

102 Carridine  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:28:26pm

re: #94 Cognito

I was just trying to sort out whether ecor is a zealot, or simply doesn't understand what 'peer review' means, regarding the science journals.

A lot of people, reading that stuff, would do likewise... but ecor posts DIS-information. Period.

Its difficult enough to sort through conflicting information without having disinformation and propaganda and subtle lies to deal with at the same time, Cog...

103 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:28:44pm

re: #74 realwest

Hi ya PBJ!
WHO DID and where PBJ?


Last thread, #452 is where he said something to "All of the Mandys". There is probably still more above that.

104 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:28:51pm

re: #99 tradewind

And here the nutroots have been theorizing that Bush will suspend the election and try to stay in office.......

I fear he and Cheney will resign and leave it to Condoleeza for the last six months. Or is it Pelosi? Wotever.

105 Macker  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:28:54pm

re: #99 tradewind

MUST you feed the moonbats?

/snicker

106 Capitalistincharge  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:12pm

Must bid all a good night. Tomorrow morning is photo shoot for cover of my new cookbook. :) Sweet Dreams all...

107 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:18pm

re: #97 itellu3times

You could still use John Lennon.

I wanted to use one of the Tenniel's illustrations, but I couldn't find one that looked good shrunk to avatar size, so ... I have no idea how I ended up with this instead, and how that elephant got into my pajamas I'll never know!

lol

Love the Marx Brothers. Too bad we haven't had anything like them in ages. (Except for the movie Brain Donors, one of my all time favorites.)

108 Cognito  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:20pm

re: #102 Carridine

Agreed.

109 wolfie  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:30pm

re: #71 Charles

Is there a full moon tonight or something?

Awhoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

110 Salamantis  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:33pm

(ducks and runs...)

111 yesandno  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:34pm

re: #98 realwest

8-10 years? That must mean either that he's hoping those "other" 7 states help push through a constitutional amendment or we now know why he wants a Civilian Defense Corps the same size and as well armed as the US Military!
What an absolute Putz.

You know, since it was posted here, I haven't heard one reference to the Civilian Defense Corps...not even on radio....

It is so offensive, I cannot believe it is going unnoticed.

112 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:47pm

re: #100 Macker
Some troll named Brinks. See my post to realwest.

113 jcw46  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:48pm

re: #12 Ojoe

I am Mandy

(Wheee! very different.)

Good night all

I am Mandy hear me roar ... No! Wait, I already did that and it didn't go over well.

114 Carridine  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:51pm

re: #100 Macker
Long gone, Macker... but his Nom de Spewm was Brinks...

115 Mich-again  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:29:52pm

All that digging into Obama's birth certificate reminds me a bit of the Danny Amonte episode.

116 SpartanWoman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:30:22pm

re: #101 Mars Needs Neocons

Very clever.

117 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:30:32pm

re: #103 Pvt Bin Jammin
Ah thanks! But now that Stinky's done his work on him, I'm not gonna bother going to look.

118 Cognito  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:30:37pm

re: #114 Carridine

Long gone, Macker... but his Nom de Spewm was Brinks...

Ha. Maybe it was a nom de grrrrrrrr....

119 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:30:49pm

re: #86 realwest

Ah, good ole Stinky! Thanks.
How are you doing tonight JCM?

Pleasant day. Wife had an extra day of work, so Mr. Mom, got the kitchen cleaned up in between crises. Munchette now 19 months discovered climbing onto the table, unfortunately getting down is problematic. Nice bruise on her forehead. The 3 year tried jumping off the back of the couch over his brother, one bit tongue and minor abrasions.

All in a day's work.

120 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:31:07pm

re: #116 SpartanWoman

Very clever.

Thank you. But a joke like that does no good if it doesn't get victims, so I'm thinking of closing up shop there.

121 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:31:08pm
122 Catttt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:31:22pm

re: #15 snowcrash

Just finished playing Super Bounce Out. Fun!

Uh oh. Now you're hooked. /Yes, it is fun.

123 SpartanWoman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:31:22pm

re: #106 Capitalistincharge

Must bid all a good night. Tomorrow morning is photo shoot for cover of my new cookbook. :) Sweet Dreams all...

Cookbook? Yum

124 Steffan  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:31:25pm

I am Oz, the great and powerful.

The Australian has a great op-ed piece on AGW by Dr. David Evans, who spent six years in the Australian Greenhouse Office.

When I started that job in 1999 the evidence that carbon emissions caused global warming seemed pretty good: CO2 is a greenhouse gas, the old ice core data, no other suspects.

The evidence was not conclusive, but why wait until we were certain when it appeared we needed to act quickly? Soon government and the scientific community were working together and lots of science research jobs were created. We scientists had political support, the ear of government, big budgets, and we felt fairly important and useful (well, I did anyway). It was great. We were working to save the planet.

But since 1999 new evidence has seriously weakened the case that carbon emissions are the main cause of global warming, and by 2007 the evidence was pretty conclusive that carbon played only a minor role and was not the main cause of the recent global warming. As Lord Keynes famously said, "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

He makes four points:

1. The greenhouse signature is missing. We have been looking and measuring for years, and cannot find it.

Each possible cause of global warming has a different pattern of where in the planet the warming occurs first and the most. The signature of an increased greenhouse effect is a hot spot about 10km up in the atmosphere over the tropics. We have been measuring the atmosphere for decades using radiosondes: weather balloons with thermometers that radio back the temperature as the balloon ascends through the atmosphere. They show no hot spot. Whatsoever.

If there is no hot spot then an increased greenhouse effect is not the cause of global warming. [....]

(snip)

2. There is no evidence to support the idea that carbon emissions cause significant global warming. None. There is plenty of evidence that global warming has occurred, and theory suggests that carbon emissions should raise temperatures (though by how much is hotly disputed) but there are no observations by anyone that implicate carbon emissions as a significant cause of the recent global warming.

3. The satellites that measure the world's temperature all say that the warming trend ended in 2001, and that the temperature has dropped about 0.6C in the past year (to the temperature of 1980). Land-based temperature readings are corrupted by the "urban heat island" effect: urban areas encroaching on thermometer stations warm the micro-climate around the thermometer, due to vegetation changes, concrete, cars, houses. Satellite data is the only temperature data we can trust, but it only goes back to 1979. NASA reports only land-based data, and reports a modest warming trend and recent cooling. The other three global temperature records use a mix of satellite and land measurements, or satellite only, and they all show no warming since 2001 and a recent cooling.

4. The new ice cores show that in the past six global warmings over the past half a million years, the temperature rises occurred on average 800 years before the accompanying rise in atmospheric carbon. Which says something important about which was cause and which was effect.

None of these points are controversial. The alarmist scientists agree with them, though they would dispute their relevance.

The last point was known and past dispute by 2003, yet Al Gore made his movie in 2005 and presented the ice cores as the sole reason for believing that carbon emissions cause global warming. In any other political context our cynical and experienced press corps would surely have called this dishonest[.]

125 Mich-again  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:31:27pm

re: #71 Charles

Is there a full moon tonight or something?

There is no science that supports the notion that people act crazier on the nights in which there is a full moon than they do on any other random night.

126 wolfie  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:32:01pm

re: #121 solomonpanting

My theme song ! :D

127 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:32:08pm

re: #109 wolfie

Awhoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Last night.

128 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:32:09pm

re: #110 Salamantis

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

(ducks and runs...)

SMACK!

129 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:32:13pm

re: #119 JCM Ah, a never ending circus of fun, hey?! LOL!

130 Carridine  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:32:28pm

re: #118 Cognito
Nom de Grrr... *ding-ding!* LMAO, Cog...

So much for Brinks' warfarin... heartless rat

131 Steffan  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:33:42pm

re: #71 Charles

Is there a full moon tonight or something?

Naaah, that was Friday. I think it's a Sunday-night thing.

132 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:33:43pm

re: #107 Mars Needs Neocons

lol

Love the Marx Brothers. Too bad we haven't had anything like them in ages. (Except for the movie Brain Donors, one of my all time favorites.)

Oh, Steve Martin has been very Marxist, the original SNL humor was somewhat in that vein, modernized, of course, it's hard to do straight vaudeville in the twenty-first century! I suppose you can even say Mel Brooks movies were sufficiently absurd and wordy, and I knew there was something you can't burn at both ends, and I thought it was a candle!

133 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:34:04pm

re: #125 Mich-again

There is no science that supports the notion that people act crazier on the nights in which there is a full moon than they do on any other random night.

Hah! You've never worked EMS!

I don't care what science says.
/

134 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:34:33pm

Hey real!

135 Dar ul Harb  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:34:39pm

See y'all for morning watch.

136 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:35:06pm

re: #132 itellu3times

Oh, Steve Martin has been very Marxist, the original SNL humor was somewhat in that vein, modernized, of course, it's hard to do straight vaudeville in the twenty-first century! I suppose you can even say Mel Brooks movies were sufficiently absurd and wordy, and I knew there was something you can't burn at both ends, and I thought it was a candle!

To a degree. But, if you've never seen Brain Donors I'd highly recommend it. Closest thing to a Marx script in modern times. Rapid fire delivery, wordplay, innuendo, it was all there.

137 wolfie  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:35:36pm

re: #127 JCM

Last night.

Hey ! Close enough for a wild animal !

138 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:35:37pm

re: #129 realwest

Ah, a never ending circus of fun, hey?! LOL!

3 rings of fun! Raising 'em tough - brush 'em off, tell 'em they're fine, send 'em on their way.

139 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:35:38pm

re: #133 JCM

Hah! You've never worked EMS!

I don't care what science says.
/

Sounds like a concept for a spinoff from COPS, or at least an episode for CSI.

140 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:35:45pm

re: #134 Typicalwhitey
Hey Typicalwhitey! How are ya doing tonight?

141 tradewind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:36:12pm

Full moon or no, what the hell.... perfect mood music for tonight's thread...

142 jcw46  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:36:14pm

re: #68 FurryOldGuyJeans

Because I have worn a dress. Any other stupid questions?

///

must scrub mind picture ... must scrub mind picture .....

143 Macker  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:36:37pm

re: #132 itellu3times

You mean Marx Bros., right?

144 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:36:56pm
145 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:37:14pm

re: #144 Typicalwhitey
Why not?

146 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:37:22pm

re: #139 itellu3times

Sounds like a concept for a spinoff from COPS, or at least an episode for CSI.

I think 3 day weekends corresponding to major employer paid days is probably more accurate indicator of whackiness.

But it sure seems the whackier is more pronounced around a full moon.

147 tradewind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:37:27pm

re: #144 Typicalwhitey

Okay!

148 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:37:34pm

re: #144 Typicalwhitey

DO NOT CLICK!

AAHH you could have warned us....oh, yeah, you did.

149 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:38:31pm

So, is Obama getting only glowing coverage ... no critique?

150 Carridine  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:38:37pm

re: #132 itellu3times
I'll underscore THAT, Tell-U... Steve Martin may not be everyone's cup of tea, but he and Robin Williams and Billie Crystal are comedic geniuses, par excellence!

151 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:38:41pm

re: #125 Mich-again

There is no science that supports the notion that people act crazier on the nights in which there is a full moon than they do on any other random night.

I don't have a link, but I believe there are crime statistics that do bolster the full moon behavioral phenom.

152 Dirk Diggler  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:39:20pm

itellu3times,

I am Mandy

in sensible shoes.

I am Mandy

with an enormous schwanzstucker.

153 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:39:46pm

Did you see on Drudge that he painted on his plane, "CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN."

I guess that's so the media sees his slogan and puts it on air. Clever, really.

154 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:40:08pm

re: #136 Mars Needs Neocons

To a degree. But, if you've never seen Brain Donors I'd highly recommend it. Closest thing to a Marx script in modern times. Rapid fire delivery, wordplay, innuendo, it was all there.

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

Although is not said in the official description of the movie, the screenplay and characters are based on the classic comedy masterpiece by the Marx Brothers - A Night at the Opera (1935).

In 1991, Paramount Pictures was preparing to release the film under the title "Lame Ducks" with a major ad campaign, playing up the fact that it was produced by David and Jerry Zucker who produced Airplane (1980) and The Naked Gun (1988), but when the brothers bailed on the project, the movie was shelved, the publicity campaign was scrapped and the title was changed to "Brain Donors". It was released in a few theaters to some positive reviews, but it really made it's money on home video where it has attracted a small cult following.

OK, thanx!

You know, when money comes innuendo, love goes out the door.

155 Steve  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:40:16pm

re: #125 Mich-again

There is no science that supports the notion that people act crazier on the nights in which there is a full moon than they do on any other random night.


Tell that to the bartenders that dal with them;-P

156 rain of lead  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:40:43pm

just read the last thread and all i can say is"wow!"
the speed with which everyone came together and then stomped a mudhole in that little turd and walked it dry was just amazing.

LIZARDS ROCK!

157 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:40:45pm

re: #151 Cartman

I don't have a link, but I believe there are crime statistics that do bolster the full moon behavioral phenom.


I worked for about a year and a half in a casino when I was young. Believe me, we got nothing but loons and outright creeps coming in when the moon was full.

158 rightwinger3  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:40:58pm

re: #124 Steffan

In any other political context our cynical and experienced press corps would surely have called this dishonest

Objective reporting by MSM last occurred around 1945.

159 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:41:09pm

re: #143 Macker

You mean Marx Bros., right?

Yessir.

160 tradewind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:41:27pm

re: #149 hermeneutics
Some of the Brit press is ticked that he seems a tad inaccessible to them...i.e., no unscripted moments.
Duh.

161 Mich-again  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:41:30pm

re: #133 JCM

I don't care what science says.

They say the full moon makes people act crazier, truth is it just makes it easier to watch crazy people do stuff.

162 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:41:54pm

re: #151 Cartman

I don't have a link, but I believe there are crime statistics that do bolster the full moon behavioral phenom.

That's been debunked somewhere.

163 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:42:04pm

I thought there were jellyfish, or some other sea critters, that only reproduced during full moons. If true, the full moon has some sort of impact on this species.

164 jcw46  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:42:15pm

re: #117 realwest

Ah thanks! But now that Stinky's done his work on him, I'm not gonna bother going to look.

Mandy graciously stepped back and let the other lizards get in their whacks.

165 Mich-again  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:42:53pm

The full moon myth is not unprovable!

166 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:42:57pm

re: #160 tradewind

Some of the Brit press is ticked that he seems a tad inaccessible to them...i.e., no unscripted moments.
Duh.

That is it? That is the sum total of their critique?

This is sickening. He's going to try to look like an international hero. I sure hope it backfires at home.

167 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:43:13pm

re: #161 Mich-again

They say the full moon makes people act crazier, truth is it just makes it easier to watch crazy people do stuff.

And before gas and electric light. that's when the crazies could see enough to do crazy stuff at night.

168 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:43:26pm

re: #161 Mich-again

They say the full moon makes people act crazier, truth is it just makes it easier to watch crazy people do stuff.

And it's easier to see what's in the back yards as the loonies try to make their getaway.

169 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:43:33pm

re: #154 itellu3times

Classic

170 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:43:48pm

re: #162 Kosh's Shadow

That's been debunked somewhere.

Doesn't the word lunacy come from lunar?

171 livefreeor die  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:43:52pm

re: #125 Mich-again

There is no science that supports the notion that people act crazier on the nights in which there is a full moon than they do on any other random night.

Ah yes, but talk to anyone who has ever worked in an emergency room on the night of a full moon. I thought it was all a superstition until my first rising full moon night covering psychiatric emergencies. Yikes!

172 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:44:00pm

re: #157 Pvt Bin Jammin

I was a bartender on and off for several years, and I can attest to the same. They seemed to come out of the woodwork, and it was totally predictable. I used to down an extra shot or two before the shift.

173 Tarkus289  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:44:01pm

The word Lunatic, is based on Lunar.

174 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:44:10pm

re: #156 rain of lead

just read the last thread and all i can say is"wow!"
the speed with which everyone came together and then stomped a mudhole in that little turd and walked it dry was just amazing.

LIZARDS ROCK!

There was a lot of love in the room.

(none of it directed at Brinks of course.)

175 Kosh's Shadow  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:44:15pm

re: #163 hermeneutics

I thought there were jellyfish, or some other sea critters, that only reproduced during full moons. If true, the full moon has some sort of impact on this species.

Light and tides do have effects on sea (actually, near shore) creatures.

176 pat  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:45:13pm

Just watched a Obama story on TV. Obama has nothing to say. Obama won't talk because he is an ignorant fool. The Harvard Law Review must be the new baby sitter for the slow and stubborn .

177 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:45:22pm

re: #170 Pvt Bin Jammin

Doesn't the word lunacy come from lunar?

Moonbat, doodly do de doo de, moonbat.

(to the tune of: Ragmop)

178 Mich-again  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:45:38pm

When I was an automation engineer in a manufacturing facility I was convinced even the machines knew it was a full moon.

179 rain of lead  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:45:57pm

re: #174 Mars Needs Neocons

There was a lot of love in the room.

(none of it directed at Brinks of course.)

tru dat!

180 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:46:00pm

re: #175 Kosh's Shadow

Light and tides do have effects on sea (actually, near shore) creatures.

Yes, I'm sure I watched a nature show on television several years ago that showed animals, perhaps jellyfish, literally blanketing the shoreline with eggs and sperm in an almost random attempt to mate ... under a full moon.

181 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:46:08pm

re: #172 Cartman
Absolutely. I had trouble sneeking a shot but sure wish I could have. It didn't just happen once in while, like you said, but like clockwork.

182 JCM  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:46:23pm

Psychiatric Emergency Department Visits on Full-Moon Nights

Our finding agrees with those of other studies that showed no association between the full moon and increased patient contacts. These studies varied in samples and methods—some counted crisis center telephone calls (2), and others counted the full moon's effects in terms of days or quarters (3). Our study focused on overnight patient contacts in a psychiatric emergency department and a three-night full-moon effect. We did not control for potentially confounding variables such as day of the week, month, year, weekend, holiday, or cloudy nights.
183 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:46:28pm

Hey all, won the last spider game.

How you doin RW?

FAmily saw the new Bat Man today. Said it was awewsome.

184 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:46:55pm

re: #153 hermeneutics

Did you see on Drudge that he painted on his plane, "CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN."

I guess that's so the media sees his slogan and puts it on air. Clever, really.

There is now amazing advance footage of Obama arriving to give his post convention speech to 75,000 adoring believers in Denver. The wonders of technology never cease to amaze!

185 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:47:10pm

re: #163 hermeneutics

I thought there were jellyfish, or some other sea critters, that only reproduced during full moons. If true, the full moon has some sort of impact on this species.

The sea turtles' mating cycle is timed so that the eggs will hatch during the new moon, when it's most difficult to see the hatchlings on their way to the water.

186 Mich-again  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:47:32pm

re: #176 pat

Just watched a Obama story on TV. Obama has nothing to say. Obama won't talk because he is an ignorant fool. The Harvard Law Review must be the new baby sitter for the slow and stubborn .

Can a presidential candidate plead the 5th amendment when a reporter asks a question? I refuse to answer on the grounds that I might incriminate myself.

187 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:47:35pm

re: #177 itellu3times
LOL Maybe they need tin foil hats to keep out the moonbeams.

188 Carridine  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:47:45pm

re: #159 itellu3times
"You mean Marx Brothers, right?"

Yessir.

I can just see it now, Karl Marx scrivening away, his wife and kids hungry and whining around him, as he seeks to lift their spirits with devastating Klass Kombat one-liners:

"Last night, I saw a proletarian in my pajamas!" ...

"Class structures oppress all workers... except berserkers... get it?"

"Arise, workers of the world, you can be TRULY REVOLTING!"
(Ohh, Daddy! That's bad!)

"Wait, I have more..."
(Then share it with your comrades, Daddy!) *slam!*

189 Thanos  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:48:11pm

Peer review is usually more than one scientist who works in the field the paper is about. In this case climatology. One Physics professor as peer review is a stretch. The shame of it is that the paper could have been peer reviewed, there are parts that are good, there are parts that are at the edge. With real peer review the at the edge parts would have been fixed, and the math issue that Tim Lambert points out wouldn't be an issue, but the finding might not be as extreme.

That said it is time for some sleeps.

Charles, not finding traces of A or tons of Exxon in the background for Monckton's group, and this Wallop guy doesn't look terrible with a surface scratch at least. He's cut like Bush, blue blood + Western. Big on property rights, reduced gov't, strong on defense. He did speak up for this group on a water rights case, but they are def. not Dominionists.

190 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:48:34pm

re: #186 Mich-again

Can a presidential candidate plead the 5th amendment when a reporter asks a question? I refuse to answer on the grounds that I might incriminate myself.

"On de advice of my lawyah, I am refusing to anser dat question, on da grounds dat it will incriminate me."

/dumm mafioso

191 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:48:42pm

re: #188 Carridine

Now that was some brilliant commiedey.

192 jcw46  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:48:50pm

re: #163 hermeneutics

I thought there were jellyfish, or some other sea critters, that only reproduced during full moons. If true, the full moon has some sort of impact on this species.

coral? I think I saw/read that somewhere.

193 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:48:58pm

Heil!

re: #184 lifeofthemind

There is now amazing advance footage of Obama arriving to give his post convention speech to 75,000 adoring believers in Denver. The wonders of technology never cease to amaze!
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

194 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:49:22pm

re: #183 ggt
Are you playing the difficult version? I hardly ever win at that. LOL I am kind of hooked too.

195 wolfie  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:50:01pm

re: #176 pat

Just watched a Obama story on TV. Obama has nothing to say. Obama won't talk because he is an ignorant fool. The Harvard Law Review must be the new baby sitter for the slow and stubborn .


The Law Review is clearly only about politics now, like the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama never wrote a single article or essay.
Unbelievable.

196 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:50:22pm

re: #185 victor_yugo

re: #192 jcw46

yes, I think it was coral.

And yes, sea turtles, too.

SO THERE ARE CRITTERS IMPACTED BY THE FULL MOON.

197 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:50:54pm

re: #194 Pvt Bin Jammin

I am only on 2 suits at a time. BUT it is getting easier.

198 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:50:57pm

re: #189 Thanos

What are we discussing re: Wallop.

He was one of Wyomings greats when I lived there. Wy has a history of great senators and congresspeople.

199 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:51:29pm

re: #164 jcw46 Well, it was nice of Mandy to share!

200 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:51:50pm

Yup, it was coral. Quite beautiful, really. I'd love to see it someday.

Science 19 October 2007:
Vol. 318. no. 5849, pp. 467 - 470
DOI: 10.1126/science.1145432
Prev | Table of Contents | Next
REPORTS
Light-Responsive Cryptochromes from a Simple Multicellular Animal, the Coral Acropora millepora
O. Levy,1 L. Appelbaum,2 W. Leggat,1 Y. Gothlif,3 D. C. Hayward,4,6 D. J. Miller,5,6 O. Hoegh-Guldberg1,5
Hundreds of species of reef-building corals spawn synchronously over a few nights each year, and moonlight regulates this spawning event. However, the molecular elements underpinning the detection of moonlight remain unknown. Here we report the presence of an ancient family of blue-light–sensing photoreceptors, cryptochromes, in the reef-building coral Acropora millepora. In addition to being cryptochrome genes from one of the earliest-diverging eumetazoan phyla, cry1 and cry2 were expressed preferentially in light. Consistent with potential roles in the synchronization of fundamentally important behaviors such as mass spawning, cry2 expression increased on full moon nights versus new moon nights. Our results demonstrate phylogenetically broad roles of these ancient circadian clock–related molecules in the animal kingdom.

201 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:52:04pm

All Hail Marx Lennon
How can you be two places at once when you are not anywhere at all?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

202 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:53:28pm

re: #182 JCM Spoilsport!

203 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:54:15pm

re: #196 hermeneutics

re: #192 jcw46

yes, I think it was coral.

And yes, sea turtles, too.

SO THERE ARE CRITTERS IMPACTED BY THE FULL MOON.

Worked at the hospitals in College and on Fri or Sat with a New or Full moon the nurses told me they packed in an extra supply of plasma.

204 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:55:19pm

re: #183 ggt Hey ggt, I'm doing ok, just sorta counting the hours until I get my "consult" with the oral surgeon. Damn.
Yep, I heard the new Batman was a box office smash, but don't know if it was cause the movie was so good, or because it was the last flic that Heath Ledger made before his death.

205 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:55:37pm

re: #197 ggt
I loved all the levels but since I'm on the highest level don't want to go back to the others. I hardly ever win now. I'm lucky to get one or two decks moved down below. It sure is fun.LOL

206 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:56:15pm

re: #203 lifeofthemind

Worked at the hospitals in College and on Fri or Sat with a New or Full moon the nurses told me they packed in an extra supply of plasma.

It is amazing, when you stop to think about it, that our minds are impacted by such a small magnetic force.

207 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:56:34pm

re: #184 lifeofthemind
I'm still hoping that when he walks up to the mic, an eagle flying by drops a load of poop on him and then the Heavens open up and it POURS RAIN on the assembled masses! LOL!

208 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:57:08pm

re: #204 realwest

Hey ggt, I'm doing ok, just sorta counting the hours until I get my "consult" with the oral surgeon. Damn.
Yep, I heard the new Batman was a box office smash, but don't know if it was cause the movie was so good, or because it was the last flic that Heath Ledger made before his death.

Maybe Batman will cut into Obama's impact? We can hope.

209 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:57:28pm

re: #186 Mich-again ROFL! Hey Mich, how are you doing, my friend?

210 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:57:30pm

M-o-o-n-b-a-t-t Moonbatt!

Raggmopp:

... I was really thinking of the Beany and Cecil version, but I don't see it on youtube.

211 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:57:40pm

re: #206 hermeneutics

It is amazing, when you stop to think about it, that our minds are impacted by such a small magnetic force.

I think you mean gravitic force. It doesn't take much magnetic force to mess with the mind at all.

212 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:58:27pm

re: #206 hermeneutics

It is amazing, when you stop to think about it, that our minds are impacted by such a small magnetic force.

Believe it is a tidal effect, we have an ocean in each of us.

213 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:58:34pm

re: #201 lifeofthemind

All Hail Marx Lennon
How can you be two places at once when you are not anywhere at all?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

You haven't seen the last of me, Danger!

Maybe not, but the first of you, turns my stomach.

214 Tarkus289  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:59:01pm

re: #207 realwest

You forgot, Hillary would win at the convention, and it would be his concession speech.

215 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:59:13pm

re: #207 realwest

I'm still hoping that when he walks up to the mic, an eagle flying by drops a load of poop on him and then the Heavens open up and it POURS RAIN on the assembled masses! LOL!

Is Rove that good?

216 snowcrash  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:59:23pm

In the E.R. we used to say the full moon effects the tide and the un-tied.

217 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:59:40pm

re: #211 BlueCanuck

I think you mean gravitic force. It doesn't take much magnetic force to mess with the mind at all.

I didn't even know gravitic was a word. Sigh.

218 Grok the Fullness  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 9:59:56pm

re: #40 Cartman

"the barstools are on fire...."

Thank you Cartman for getting a better song than "Mandy" into my noggin.

219 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:01:12pm

re: #211 BlueCanuck

I think you mean gravitic force. It doesn't take much magnetic force to mess with the mind at all.

The mind you say? Other organs may be involved, yer parasympathetic and endocrine systems, fer example.

220 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:02:30pm

re: #214 Tarkus289
Ya know, I NEVER thought I'd say this, but I hope she somehow sneaks the nomination away from him!
First of all McCain would win in a walk since I can't imagine ANY Black voters even bothering to go to the polls.
Secondly, as much as I detest her, I don't think she dislikes nor disrepects American the way Obama does.

221 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:02:49pm

re: #218 Grok the Fullness

Manilow and Waits are quite the polar opposites, are they not? ;)

222 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:03:12pm

re: #217 hermeneutics

I didn't even know gravitic was a word. Sigh.

Well it is now.

Humpty Dumpty: When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.
Alice: The question is, whether you can make words mean so many different things.
Humpty Dumpty: The question is: which is to be master - that's all.
223 RememberSekhmet?  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:03:22pm

Well, time for this Mandy to shuffle herself to bed. Weet dreams, Lizards!

224 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:03:24pm

re: #215 lifeofthemind
Oh yeah, he is!
At least I hope he is! Obviously if they think it's gonna rain, they'll change the venue, but one can hope!

225 Grok the Fullness  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:05:12pm

re: #221 Cartman

Indeed they are turned 90 degrees from each other ;p

226 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:05:52pm

re: #196 hermeneutics

re: #192 jcw46

yes, I think it was coral.

And yes, sea turtles, too.

SO THERE ARE CRITTERS IMPACTED BY THE FULL MOON.

Only if we throw them hard enough.

227 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:05:57pm

re: #220 realwest

Secondly, as much as I detest her, I don't think she dislikes nor disrepects American the way Obama does.

Personally, I thinks she's just so much more savvy at disguising it. After all, she and Slick have had years of practice honing that skill, R-Dubs.

228 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:05:59pm

re: #221 Cartman Hey my friend, how goes it?

229 livefreeor die  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:06:40pm

re: #203 lifeofthemind

Worked at the hospitals in College and on Fri or Sat with a New or Full moon the nurses told me they packed in an extra supply of plasma.

They didn't just come in crazy on full moons, they were really crazy. The security guards were extra jumpy on those nights and would not leave the room.

230 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:06:48pm

re: #224 realwest

Now if it was the Republican convention having an outdoor speech Friends of Plame Democratic Underground CIA operatives would be busy training squads of attack pigeons.

231 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:07:01pm

If you were advising McCain, what would you suggest he do to get around the Obama-worshiping media. Specifically, what should he be doing while Obama is flitting around Europe?

232 livefreeor die  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:07:55pm

re: #215 lifeofthemind

Is Rove that good?

Infidel! You dare to question Rove?

233 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:07:57pm

re: #229 livefreeor die

They didn't just come in crazy on full moons, they were really crazy. The security guards were extra jumpy on those nights and would not leave the room.

That's just weird. Do you have an explanation?

234 Tarkus289  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:08:15pm

Bad news, I just heard that a B-52 has crashed on Guam, I believe there were six on board.

235 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:08:17pm

About 12 days after the full moon, Box Jellyfish start showing up in Waikiki.....and those muthers sting like HELLLLLLLL!
Not fun for the tourists.
And in my party days, we made sure that we got good and wild on the full moon.
It's a tribal thing, I think.

PTTCP
OOOOWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

236 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:08:32pm

re: #228 realwest

Not too bad this evening, R-Dubs. That tooth's gotta be makin' you nuts by now, eh?

237 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:09:03pm

re: #229 livefreeor die

They didn't just come in crazy on full moons, they were really crazy. The security guards were extra jumpy on those nights and would not leave the room.

Yes great days.
Man comes in with a pool cue in his head.
Bored triage nurse asks "So what happened?"
"Well, he looked at me."

238 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:09:05pm

re: #227 Cartman Well I can understand your suspicions, but I really believe that Obama really doesn't LIKE America and I know for damn sure he doesn't respect her. I really don't think you can say that about the Clintons.
And what would be really sweet would be if she got the nomination - didn't offer VP to Obama - and then started the well known, but apparently tired out, Clinton Pay Back machine on the MSM and on some pretty damn powerful uber liberal Dems, too!
And I could make a case for her winning the nominaton, too!

239 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:09:59pm

re: #234 Tarkus289

Bad news, I just heard that a B-52 has crashed on Guam, I believe there were six on board.

Prayer is appropriate.

240 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:10:36pm

re: #230 lifeofthemind
Ha! It wouldn't bother me at all if the Friends of Plame Democratic Underground CIA operatives decided to play cause they are all elitist incompetents, not unlike Obama himself!

241 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:10:37pm

re: #231 hermeneutics

If you were advising McCain, what would you suggest he do to get around the Obama-worshiping media. Specifically, what should he be doing while Obama is flitting around Europe?

Analyze the video of O's meetings with soldiers. Watch the reactions. Compare/contrast w/ the reactions to McCain's visits.

Ask, "Who will be the more effective leader of our national defense?"

242 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:11:51pm

re: #220 realwest

Ya know, I NEVER thought I'd say this, but I hope she somehow sneaks the nomination away from him!
First of all McCain would win in a walk since I can't imagine ANY Black voters even bothering to go to the polls.
Secondly, as much as I detest her, I don't think she dislikes nor disrepects American the way Obama does.

I used to have arguments with my mom about her.
I detested Hillary.
But I would take her in a heartbeat over obambi.
For the same reasons you stated.

243 livefreeor die  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:12:38pm

re: #233 hermeneutics

That's just weird. Do you have an explanation?

None. I completely scoffed at the whole thing until I saw it first hand. It was strange. My undergraduate and graduate degrees were from programs with very strong research foci (no Freudian crap) and it goes completely against my training but damn if there isn't something going on on those nights!

244 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:13:26pm

jUST WON another game and am going to bed while I can.

weet dreams all!

245 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:13:32pm

re: #243 livefreeor die

None. I completely scoffed at the whole thing until I saw it first hand. It was strange. My undergraduate and graduate degrees were from programs with very strong research foci (no Freudian crap) and it goes completely against my training but damn if there isn't something going on on those nights!

The DD clients I worked with had far more behaviors over the full moon than normal. (documented in their casebooks and confirmed)

246 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:13:32pm

re: #231 hermeneutics

If you were advising McCain, what would you suggest he do to get around the Obama-worshiping media. Specifically, what should he be doing while Obama is flitting around Europe?


I would tell him to pound it over and over about gas prices and what he wants to do about it.
That is local and obambi is out kissing ass in foreign countries.

Make it McCain looking out for US!

247 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:13:52pm

re: #231 hermeneutics
To be honest with ya, I think McCain is doing just what he ought to be doing, given that it IS July, neither one of them has been officially nominated and, since Obama decided to forgoe public funding of his campaign - the first candidate for POTOUS to do that in what - 24 years (once again the rules don't apply to Obama)- he has to conserve his money and take his shots when he can.
Lord, I just hope and pray that there will be at least three unmoderated debates between the two of them.

248 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:14:05pm

re: #241 victor_yugo

Analyze the video of O's meetings with soldiers. Watch the reactions. Compare/contrast w/ the reactions to McCain's visits.

Ask, "Who will be the more effective leader of our national defense?"

Good. Very good.

McCain is husbanding his money. Carefully. Perhaps he intends on making lots of ads. So far, though, his ads were mediocre.

Perhaps McCain can paint Obama as an internationalist with little concern or knowledge of the USA. Mock him as running for world czar, for example.

249 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:14:35pm

re: #248 hermeneutics


Did you see the "love" ad?
GREAT!

250 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:15:07pm

re: #234 Tarkus289
SHIT! Where did you hear it?

251 Tarkus289  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:15:53pm

re: #250 realwest

Top of the hour news on WABC. in New York.

252 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:16:09pm

re: #245 Mars Needs Neocons

I blame it on pheramones (and the cat).

/you know, it's really part of the cat conspiracy to subjugate humanity and dogs.

253 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:16:26pm

re: #238 realwest

I guess the bottom line for me is that the thought of either one of them at the helm scares the crap out of me. BHO much more so, but Ms. Clinton might well prove to be nearly as destructive. I sure hope we are able to dodge both bullets there.

254 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:16:46pm

re: #252 ggt

I blame it on pheramones (and the cat).

/you know, it's really part of the cat conspiracy to subjugate humanity and dogs.

Humanity first. The dogs will fall easily thereafter.

The cats told me so.

255 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:16:49pm

i like the idea of pounding Obama with gas prices. Ask him, point blank, "WILL YOU DRILL FOR OIL IN ALASKA AND OFFSHORE IN THE LOWER 48?" If he answers with qualifications, mock him for his unwillingness to give Americans what they want. Paint him as the elitist he is.

If he answers "yes," his own wild-eyed constituents will be angry.

256 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:17:18pm

re: #249 Typicalwhitey

Did you see the "love" ad?
GREAT!

Yes, that one was pretty good. Agreed.

257 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:17:48pm

re: #254 victor_yugo

and somewhere in there I might remember how to spell pheramones. (I know that isn't correct, but am too lazy to look it up)

258 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:18:34pm

re: #250 realwest
Never mind - here it is (I put it in the spinoff links, too):
B-52 bomber crashes off Guam

HONOLULU - The Air Force says a B-52 bomber carrying six crew members has crashed off the island of Guam.

The Coast Guard says two people have been recovered from the waters. Their condition was not immediately available.

Rescue crews from the Navy, Coast Guard and local fire department are searching for the others.

Officials say the crashed occurred about 25 miles northwest of Apra Harbor.

The accident is the second for the Air Force this year on Guam.

In February, a B-2 crashed at Andersen Air Force Base in the first-ever crash of a stealth bomber. The military estimated the loss of the aircraft at $1.4 billion.

259 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:18:51pm

re: #252 ggt

I blame it on pheramones (and the cat).

/you know, it's really part of the cat conspiracy to subjugate humanity and dogs.

lol

260 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:18:56pm

Pheromones.

261 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:18:56pm

re: #255 hermeneutics

i like the idea of pounding Obama with gas prices. Ask him, point blank, "WILL YOU DRILL FOR OIL IN ALASKA AND OFFSHORE IN THE LOWER 48?" If he answers with qualifications, mock him for his unwillingness to give Americans what they want. Paint him as the elitist he is.

If he answers "yes," his own wild-eyed constituents will be angry.

And either way, he'll be sleeping on the couch.

262 livefreeor die  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:19:31pm

re: #257 ggt

and somewhere in there I might remember how to spell pheramones. (I know that isn't correct, but am too lazy to look it up)

It's late. So a couple of cats get offended.

263 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:19:46pm

re: #258 realwest

Is it still daylight in Guam?

264 lifeofthemind  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:19:57pm

re: #253 Cartman

I guess the bottom line for me is that the thought of either one of them at the helm scares the crap out of me. BHO much more so, but Ms. Clinton might well prove to be nearly as destructive. I sure hope we are able to dodge both bullets there.

Preface: Never speak ill of the dead.
Rabbi at the funeral: Looks at the coffin, looks at the congregation, looks at heaven.

His brother was worse.

265 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:20:18pm

re: #236 Cartman Well, nutzier, anyway! It's really screwing with me -can't sleep a full night, can't nap the way I usually do, makes me short tempered and evil minded.
Crap.

266 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:21:35pm

re: #265 realwest

Well, nutzier, anyway! It's really screwing with me -can't sleep a full night, can't nap the way I usually do, makes me short tempered and evil minded.
Crap.

Is it getting any better, Realwest?

267 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:21:54pm

re: #263 hermeneutics
How the heck would I know? I'm in North Carolina!

268 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:22:26pm

re: #265 realwest

Remind me not to e-mail you until after Tuesday. ;)

269 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:22:58pm

re: #260 hermeneutics

thank you

270 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:23:00pm

re: #267 realwest

How the heck would I know? I'm in North Carolina!

Grumpy grump. :) Hang in there.

271 Racer X  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:23:24pm

Yes still daylight in Guam now.

272 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:23:35pm

Local time in Agana, Guam is 3:23 PM, Monday, Jul 21, 2008

273 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:23:48pm

re: #269 ggt

thank you

How are you GGT? How's life in the far western burbs of Chicago, (or whatever you usually say?)

274 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:24:27pm

re: #262 livefreeor die

Don't let them hear you say that --you know therer might be Monitor Cats --not Charles official --.


NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE CAT.

275 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:24:36pm

re: #272 solomonpanting

Local time in Agana, Guam is 3:23 PM, Monday, Jul 21, 2008

This bodes well for recovery. With light, they'll be easier to spot. We can hope that they're all found alive.

276 FamHistoryGuy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:25:40pm

re: #144 Typicalwhitey

According to the evening news, he was telling Karzai that support would continue. As if he was already President and actually had some say in the matter.

277 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:25:57pm

re: #273 hermeneutics

Very Far WEstern Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Well, I havde a bandage on one of my fingers and Iam getting mighty tired of correcting my typing. Please forgive the typos.

I was goign to bed, but them I hit THE BUTTON again. . . .

Doin'ok, thanks for asking. How are you?

278 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:26:54pm

re: #277 ggt

I'm okay. How did you hurt your hand?

279 Grandma  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:27:01pm

So if I got the previous post “right”, if I don’t jump on the ObamaMessaihWagon, I must be some kinda kike loving person, as if that’s a bad thing. Well, “not for nuttin’”, I grew up more than 55 years ago in a city where I lived in a neighborhood with Jewish folks (many whose parents/grandparents wore the tattoos from their time in the concentration camps), Negro folks, Italian folks, and a host of others. We didn’t call them kikes, n*****s, wops or pollacks. They were just our crazy neighbors. And most of them were all okay people.
And back in the sixties, with the civil rights movement, all that “group identity” was supposed to make us all Americans. But now I’m thinking that for some groups, they still want to base their identity on their group affiliation. We’ve got La Raza, and the Black Congressional Congress, and the NAACP, and White Supremacists, etc. So for all the laws that tried to put an end to segregation, who is it that is still trying to segregate themselves based upon everything except individual character?
I don’t like the idea, but I really think that the American “sheeple” will probably elect the ObamaMessiah as our next president. Not by my vote, but that is probably what will happen. And that will set us back another 100 years or so…and I may not be alive then and because I’m very much in touch with my own mortality, I’ve learned that dead people don’t give a royal rat’s a$$ about anything here on Earth, so I probably won’t care then either.
Well, maybe, after the nation realizes many years from now, that the ObamaMessiah didn’t come through, the turn-around may just happen. Could it be that is just what our great nation needs to comprehend, but it probably won’t come in my lifetime? All these hyphenated groups can brag about their culture, trying to prove that they don’t want to segregate themselves from the rest of the Americans, or shove that thought down another group’s throat, but that’s really all they’re doing. Who cares what their color or culture is, or what their gripe is. I’d rather separate myself from the rotten of any culture based upon each individual’s lack of character. And that has nothing to do with their race, gender, ethnicity, religion, wealth, etc. I’ll separate myself from those of poor character, whatever it is, and not feel bad about it for one NY second. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could view others for their quality of character, rather than their group affiliation?
So thanks for entertaining Grandma’s ramblings on this lovely SC evening, and have a nice day.

280 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:27:13pm

re: #265 realwest

too bad you weren't on the last thread. Youi could have channed so,me of that negativity toward the troll -- wehre it belongs.

teehee

281 Mars Needs Neocons  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:27:32pm

re: #277 ggt

Very Far WEstern Suburbs of Chicagoland.

Well, I havde a bandage on one of my fingers and Iam getting mighty tired of correcting my typing. Please forgive the typos.

I was goign to bed, but them I hit THE BUTTON again. . . .

Doin'ok, thanks for asking. How are you?

That's freaking hilarious. (not really) I have a bandage on one of my fingers too. It takes my three tries to fix my posts before they are sent. Anyway thinking of sleep myself. So what happened to your finger? Cut mine in the sink while getting dishes ready.

282 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:27:53pm

re: #278 hermeneutics

donn't laugh --

I broke a nail

terrible fate.

283 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:28:20pm

re: #251 Tarkus289
OMG Praying for the rescue of all.

284 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:28:55pm

re: #276 FamHistoryGuy

According to the evening news, he was telling Karzai that support would continue. As if he was already President and actually had some say in the matter.


I know. That is what is pissing me off about the whole trip.
He is acting as if he were President already.
I hope it is affecting other voters in the same way.

285 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:29:56pm

re: #282 ggt

donn't laugh --

I broke a nail

terrible fate.

I have a solution for you! CHEW THEM. One of life's little pleasures ...

286 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:30:42pm

re: #285 hermeneutics

nO, nO no! i SPEND too much of my husband's money getting them done every two weeks. Can't stop now.

288 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:31:13pm

re: #241 victor_yugo
With all due respect, I don't think war is gonna play a big role in this election - I really don't. As an historian, I can tell you that Americans have ALWAYS voted their pocketbooks/wallets unless we were in a state of Declared War and most saw some grave danger to the USA. And according to all the polls, the overwhelming majority don't believe that we're there now.
That's one reason why I think #255 hermeneutics had it right - McCain REALLY needs to distance himself from Bush and try to convince voters that he can fix our economic problems. While Obama's playing the foreign policy game, NOW is the time for McCain to get out there and start telling voters in every way possible, that "Senator Obama is trying to win some foreign policy credentials with a whirlwind visit to places he's already flip-flopped or been proven wrong on (Iraq and Afghanistan) and here's what I'd do about gas prices, here's what I'd do about home energy costs, food costs and the like." I mean REALLY SLAM THOSE POINTS HOME.
Even if he has to use some precious bucks for one or two minute prime time commercials on the 3 major networks and Fox.

289 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:31:27pm

re: #287 abolitionist

This is thread-worthy.

Prayers for all.

290 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:31:50pm

re: #284 Typicalwhitey

I know. That is what is pissing me off about the whole trip.
He is acting as if he were President already.
I hope it is affecting other voters in the same way.

I imagine Obama surrounded by worshippers. It must be hard for him to get a realisitic appraisal of himself. He's not used to power. He's not used to adulation. He sure wasn't bred for this sort of position. Ergo, it is going to his head.

He's just got to be rubbing ordinary people the wrong way. Maybe not now, but slowly, surely, his vanity will show through.

Or so I pray.

291 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:33:41pm

re: #288 realwest

People won't realize there really is a SERIOUS THREAT unless there is another attack on the home-land. Ironically, I don't think that will happen with a Republican in power. Which, in my book, is a good thing.

Lack of attack to some people means --no threat. To me, it means: strong leadership.

292 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:35:01pm

re: #266 hermeneutics
Well it's more sporadic now, but I think that's cause I hold off taking pain pills as long as I can. But yeah, it still hurts.
Thanks for asking.

293 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:35:09pm

re: #286 ggt

nO, nO no! i SPEND too much of my husband's money getting them done every two weeks. Can't stop now.

Every two weeks?

Wow. Well, hopefully it feels good, like a mini-massage.

When I got braces I had to stop chewing my nails. It was horrible. Now I clip them to the quick so I don't have to be bothered by them. Still, at times, I long for them. Little morsels. Lovely little morsels. But I can't chew them or I'll never stop.

294 melinwy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:36:37pm

re: #276 FamHistoryGuy

talk about hubris

295 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:37:42pm

re: #287 abolitionist

2:30 p.m. - Local and military forces cooperate for large-scale search
BREAKING NEWS: B-52 crashes in Guam

Prayers to all their families and loved ones. May they rest in peace.

296 Racer X  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:38:37pm

re: #288 realwest

McCain REALLY needs to distance himself from Bush and try to convince voters that he can fix our economic problems.

While Obama's playing the foreign policy game, NOW is the time for McCain to get out there and start telling voters in every way possible, that "Senator Obama is trying to win some foreign policy credentials with a whirlwind visit to places he's already flip-flopped or been proven wrong on (Iraq and Afghanistan) and here's what I'd do about gas prices, here's what I'd do about home energy costs, food costs and the like." I mean REALLY SLAM THOSE POINTS HOME.

Even if he has to use some precious bucks for one or two minute prime time commercials on the 3 major networks and Fox.

I agree RW - McCain should go on the attack while Obama is out on his foreign policy training mission.

297 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:38:52pm

re: #283 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG Praying for the rescue of all.

Maybe I jumped the gun - let's hope for a rescue.

298 abolitionist  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:39:00pm

American B-52 Bomber Crashes Near Guam

HONOLULU — The Air Force says a B-52 bomber carrying six crew members has crashed off the island of Guam.

The Coast Guard says two people have been recovered from the waters. Their condition was not immediately available.

299 melinwy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:39:24pm

re: #295 Irene NYC

prayers yes...are there known casualties?

300 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:39:54pm

re: #288 realwest

The hard left has banked on public disaffection with Iraq and Bush but it just isn't there (except among themselves.)

You put it so well, Realwest. Its the economy. Specifically, drilling for oil.

People understand that we can drill for oil, now, and alleviate the crisis. They're pissed that the Dems won't let us. We need to hammer that message home: Republicans are watching out for our own nation and our own best interest; Obama and the Dems are internationalists who put global needs ahead of American needs.

Voting for McCain is voting for America(ns).

301 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:40:01pm

re: #284 Typicalwhitey

I know. That is what is pissing me off about the whole trip.
He is acting as if he were President already.
I hope it is affecting other voters in the same way.

And you're obviously not the only one Obama is annoying.

302 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:40:46pm

re: #299 melinwy

prayers yes...are there known casualties?

No, I misread the article. Keeping praying for their survival!

303 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:41:24pm

re: #288 realwest

Even if he has to use some precious bucks for one or two minute prime time commercials on the 3 major networks and Fox.

On that note, R-Dubs, I'm going to make another pitch to all Lizards here. Even if you don't identify with the Republican party, or agree with some of McCain's ideology, or both - please consider donating to his campaign. I know times are tight, but even if it's $5, it may end up making a difference. I believe BHO is creaming McCain in the fundraising department at something like 2 to 1. We simply cannot afford an Obama presidency. It may well be the most important five bucks you'll ever spend.

/off soapbox

304 melinwy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:41:36pm

re: #302 Irene NYC

absolutely!

305 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:42:29pm

Those of you with blogs, or who post on other blogs, try to encourage a groundswell of chatter about domestic issues while Obama is gone.

(It is hard to think of things that we can do to help McCain. SPecific things.)

306 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:43:03pm

Hey real!

You out there, my man?
;)

307 melinwy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:43:34pm

re: #303 Cartman

you are probably right, I just hate giving to the repubs after I gave and they thumbed their noses at me.

308 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:43:49pm

Some Lizards are very good at making You-tube videos. That would help McCain, too. Get them out NOW as the timing is crucial.

309 Racer X  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:43:52pm

re: #301 Irene NYC

And you're obviously not the only one Obama is annoying.

Unfortunately there are a lot of shallow voters who will see Obama on his world tour and think he is just wonderful. McCain needs to kick his ass every day he is out of the country.

310 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:45:00pm

re: #288 realwest

With all due respect, I don't think war is gonna play a big role in this election - I really don't. As an historian, I can tell you that Americans have ALWAYS voted their pocketbooks/wallets unless we were in a state of Declared War and most saw some grave danger to the USA. And according to all the polls, the overwhelming majority don't believe that we're there now.

Which will change in a New York minute if al-Q or their ilk try anything here like they did in Madrid.

That's one reason why I think #255 hermeneutics had it right - McCain REALLY needs to distance himself from Bush and try to convince voters that he can fix our economic problems. While Obama's playing the foreign policy game, NOW is the time for McCain to get out there and start telling voters in every way possible, that "Senator Obama is trying to win some foreign policy credentials with a whirlwind visit to places he's already flip-flopped or been proven wrong on (Iraq and Afghanistan) and here's what I'd do about gas prices, here's what I'd do about home energy costs, food costs and the like." I mean REALLY SLAM THOSE POINTS HOME.
Even if he has to use some precious bucks for one or two minute prime time commercials on the 3 major networks and Fox.

That gives me the perfect question for BO:

"Do you affirm the unconditional right of Israel to exist?"

Yet one more corner he's painted himself into.

311 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:45:22pm

re: #279 Grandma Hey Grandma - I grew up in - well, went to live in Manhattan NYC for over 35 years and one of the things I LOVE about what I still call my home town, was that - once Rudy cleaned up the city and made it safe, folks really did get along reasonably well. And I took PRIDE in that. I loved that my apartment building had whites, blacks, Thai, Vietnamese, Chinese, Black folks from the Carribean and etc.
But if Obama wins, THAT'S IT. I won't stand for hearing any bs about "equal rights" or "affirmative action" or "reparations" cause then I'll be able to honestly say "HEY, look a Black man was elected President of the United States without help from affirmative action, with no real knowledge or experience in LIFE much less government, so if you put your minds to it, you can do EVEN better than Obama. Go. Learn. Apply yourselves. Lift yourselves up the way President Obama did."
And if he wins, then I think Jackson, Sharpton, Wright and all those who make their living keeping the racial divide alive are all outta work and will have to stfu and stfd.

And I thought that was a great post by you, too!

312 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:45:53pm

re: #305 hermeneutics

Those of you with blogs, or who post on other blogs, try to encourage a groundswell of chatter about domestic issues while Obama is gone.

(It is hard to think of things that we can do to help McCain. SPecific things.)

Well, one thing we can do is call, write or otherwise encourage our Congressional representatives who are democrats NOT to change the drilling laws on September 30th.

That way people might be pissed enough to vote republican straight party ticket on November 2.

;)

313 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:46:37pm

Is McCain kicking ass? Is he campaigning? I'm not reading much about him in the MSM, but that may be because they're wearing their Obama blinders, as usual. Hopefully McCain is out there, under the radar, enervating his supporters. Typical Whitey went to one of his town meeting the other day in Missouri, I believe.

What/where is McCain tomorrow? Anyone know?

314 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:46:56pm

re: #312 Irene NYC

Well, one thing we can do is call, write or otherwise encourage our Congressional representatives who are democrats NOT to change the drilling laws on September 30th.

That way people might be pissed enough to vote republican straight party ticket on November 2.

;)

You are diabolical ... lovely!

315 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:46:58pm

re: #309 Racer X

Unfortunately there are a lot of shallow voters who will see Obama on his world tour and think he is just wonderful. McCain needs to kick his ass every day he is out of the country.

Why stop when BO returns? Keep kicking his ass once he gets back, too.

316 FamHistoryGuy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:46:58pm

re: #284 Typicalwhitey

Watching this stupidity is making me want to go back on prozac and double up on the dose.

After three and a half years in a convenience store, I have very little patience or empathy left. Think I wore out my adrenal glands as it is difficult to sustain the adrenaline levels needed for outrage anymore.

317 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:47:13pm

re: #280 ggt HEY, I tought you said you were going to sleep and wished us all wet dreams, er, weet dreams?!

318 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:47:55pm

re: #302 Irene NYC
Thanks for clarifying. I could not open your link. For the past couple of weeks I have had trouble with links on LGF (also spy). Clearing the cache and cookies doesn't cut it. I have to clear all of that and then reboot. Works fine for a few hours and then I have the problem again. Have any other lizards had that problem?

319 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:49:34pm

re: #318 Pvt Bin Jammin

By any chance, could your computer be infected with, you know, a virus or spyware or something?

320 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:50:37pm

re: #307 melinwy

I know. I feel the same way. If there were a way I could return that slight, I would. In the short run though, it would be dangerously counterproductive. All eyes must be focused on preventing an Obama presidency. Period. And it's gonna take some grass roots activism to do it, which generally makes conservatives uncomfortable. Hell, if I've got to put on a stupid suit with an elephant badge on it and go door to door trying to educate the ignorant and uninformed who are planning to vote for Barry, than so be it. That;s just what I'll do. It's that important.

321 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:51:05pm

re: #295 Irene NYC
Hey Irene - hope you're doing well, but the reports I've read haven't said any of 'em have died yet - if those reports are right, then please EVERYONE pray that they are all alive and will be recoverd and treated back to good health.

322 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:51:35pm

re: #319 Irene NYC
I don't think so. It's probably our old IE 6 but my hubby doesn't want to switch to anything else yet. It started about the time of the microsoft patch.

323 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:52:39pm

re: #322 Pvt Bin Jammin

oohhhh...that last patch got some very bad reviews. *ouch*

324 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:53:02pm

Well heck, I guess I'm just going to reboot. See everyone in a few minutes.

325 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:53:34pm

We need to counteract this. If the McCain campaign isn't hitting back, then we need to. Now.


Lara Logan, chief foreign affairs correspondent for CBS News, has landed the coveted first interview with Barack Obama while he’s abroad, (SUnday) ...

In addition, Katie Couric will interview Obama on Tuesday in a country that the campaign does not want named for security reasons, then will anchor “Evening News” from there.

Obama’s campaign spaced out the bookings in order to build maximum suspense around his week-long, eight-country tour.

CNN and Fox News also are scheduled to get interviews while Obama is abroad.

Forty journalists, including such leading correspondents as Dan Balz of The Washington Post, will be aboard his plane for next week’s swing through Jordan, Israel, Germany, France and England.

326 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:53:54pm

re: #323 Irene NYC
Well, I was running Zone Alarm too......HUGE problems. Be right back.

327 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:54:15pm

re: #303 Cartman
Hey my friend - serious question here - can we still donate, or can McCain still accept our donations now that he's said he's going to take the honorable path and accept public funding?
I'd really like to know the answer to that one, my friend!

328 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:54:21pm

re: #321 realwest

Yeah, real, I said above that I misread it (doing taxes for the last 3 days, my eyes are bleary.....).

Are you doing well? I can't wait to go on vacation at the end of July! New York has been like a friggin' steam bath for days now and it's supposed to thunderstorm all this week.

329 ggt  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:55:20pm

re: #317 realwest

I AM .good night all!

330 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:55:35pm

[Link: www.mediabistro.com...]

Sorry. I forgot my citation for the above. Here it it.

331 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:56:00pm

re: #329 ggt

I AM .good night all!

Nighty nite, GGT.

332 Racer X  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:56:08pm

re: #327 realwest

Hey my friend - serious question here - can we still donate, or can McCain still accept our donations now that he's said he's going to take the honorable path and accept public funding?
I'd really like to know the answer to that one, my friend!

I believe government money starts after he receives the party nomination at the R convention.

333 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:56:28pm

re: #310 victor_yugo
Indeed and an excellent question for McCain to ask him in a debate - if the MSM even mentions it, they'll let him wriggle around and not answer it.
Great point.

334 Irene NYC  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:56:28pm

re: #327 realwest

You know what, real. Even if McCain can't take the funds, the RNC can and so can a bunch of pro-McCain 527's.

335 FamHistoryGuy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:57:31pm

Good night all. Getting too difficult to read the screen, so off to bed.

336 melinwy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:57:35pm

re: #320 Cartman

agreed....it would be cutting off our nose to spite our face if we do not get behind McCain....Obama is too scary!

337 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:59:12pm

re: #322 Pvt Bin Jammin

I don't think so. It's probably our old IE 6 but my hubby doesn't want to switch to anything else yet. It started about the time of the microsoft patch.

I'm wondering if IE6 is already becoming unstable. Well, make that moreso than it already was. ;) I'd at least convice hubby to go up to IE7. It took care of a lot of annoyances I was experiencing with IE6.

338 TheMatrix31  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 10:59:45pm

Is the McCain/Obama Coverage Fair?

Wow, an article from the AP questioning the media slobberation for Obama? Am I in bizarro world?

339 abolitionist  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:00:06pm

re: #322 Pvt Bin Jammin

You can download and install and use Firefox and import all your bookmarks (once), and use that, while leaving IE6 as your default browser. Alternatively you can make Firefox the defaut temporarily.

With most anti-virus software, having more than one installed at the same time can be problematic. That restriction does not apply to browsers (much).

340 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:00:34pm

re: #318 Pvt Bin Jammin
Yep, I have and I use SpywareDoctor (free download I think, just go to SpywareDoctor.com or google 'em. I also use Norton's Internet Protection Package for viruses, ad aware, malware and e-mail cearing. That's not free, but it is, no matter what the "techies" out here say DAMN good. And it gives you a GREAT firewall. Microsoft's Defender and firewall just plain SUCK! LOL!

341 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:00:51pm

re: #327 realwest

Maybe a simple way would be to check his website? I wonder if they are accepting donations online?

342 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:02:37pm

re: #332 Racer X so he can use whatever he raises until then during the campaign while receiving Fed money? Are you sure?

343 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:03:26pm

re: #341 Cartman

Maybe a simple way would be to check his website? I wonder if they are accepting donations online?

We could give to McCain, but if he's not fighting hard enough with our dollars, then shouldn't we be giving to the 2008 version of the swift boat group? If so, who are they?

344 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:04:17pm

re: #337 Cartman
I will try to talk him into it. He has had multiple brain surgeries and just kinda tends to like to stick to the familiar. OMG he joined Ebay a few months ago while I was out and about and when I came home he was cursing the computer. LOL Bless his heart. We are both totally not techies.

You know, I also wonder if it is the *&%* Norton. I uninstalled it as it caused huge problems with LGF but it is still lurking around.

345 Racer X  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:04:49pm

re: #342 realwest

so he can use whatever he raises until then during the campaign while receiving Fed money? Are you sure?

Not sure about that. I saw on TV today where he was spending money like crazy prior to the R convention when the public money kicks in.

346 realwest  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:05:19pm

Woops -geez I just checked the time and I gotta run and get some sleep if I can!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

Goodnight, all.

347 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:06:20pm

re: #346 realwest
Nite, realwest, you take care. "weet dreams.

348 Racer X  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:06:26pm

Later RW - good luck tomorrow.

349 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:07:22pm

re: #343 hermeneutics

I think they are former military from Iraq/Stan. Don't know the details. Anyway, I still believe that if McCain's coffers start filling up, he may be persuaded to go into full attack mode, with all that jack backing him up. Just a thought.

350 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:10:37pm

re: #344 Pvt Bin Jammin

You know, I also wonder if it is the *&%* Norton. I uninstalled it as it caused huge problems with LGF but it is still lurking around.

I've heard that a Norton uninstall leaves remnants behind, especially in the Windows Registry. I believe there is a manual process that has to be followed to kill Norton once and for all.

351 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:11:20pm

G'nite, R-Dubs.

352 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:11:25pm

So, I sent twenty bucks to the RNC and they asked me for my e-mail address. Back in the day, the newsletters came from the RNC itself. Now, I am getting GOP EAGLE or GOP FRIENDS. Yesterday I got this offer for a free book from them about an attack on the bible. Is anybody else getting these e-mail newsletters? I am also getting the pics of Cindy and John in the mail.

353 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:11:28pm

re: #349 Cartman

I think they are former military from Iraq/Stan. Don't know the details. Anyway, I still believe that if McCain's coffers start filling up, he may be persuaded to go into full attack mode, with all that jack backing him up. Just a thought.

He sure is cautious. I'd like to believe he's clever and timing his ad releases, but part of me fears he's merely disorganized and inept at campaigning.

354 Grandma  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:11:31pm

Hey Realwest: if you’re an historian, maybe you’ll also recall how the nation responded back in the 1940’s when Congress actually declared war upon the enemy, i.e. Nazi Germany and Japan. And our nation responded. Those who were drafted into the military (my uncles and husband) served for the DURATION of hostilities. There was no timeline. My late husband was drafted pre-Pearl Harbor and I have the document signed by Truman that says he wasn’t relieved of his reserve duties in the Army Air Corps (now the Air Force) until 1953. I recall rationing during that time. Food rationing, gasoline rationing, etc. Can today’s pampered adults even imagine that kind of burden when they’re whining about the cost of gasoline, but not knowing that even if they can afford the cost, it just “ain’t there”? And there were War Bonds, Victory Gardens, and American people of all walks of life worked together to defeat the threat. And the ObamaMessiah will fix all that so it never happens again? I don’t think so. I’m not even sure of McCain, but at least he has the history to understand, like Trotsky said, “You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you”.

355 Typicalwhitey  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:12:03pm

re: #303 Cartman

On that note, R-Dubs, I'm going to make another pitch to all Lizards here. Even if you don't identify with the Republican party, or agree with some of McCain's ideology, or both - please consider donating to his campaign. I know times are tight, but even if it's $5, it may end up making a difference. I believe BHO is creaming McCain in the fundraising department at something like 2 to 1. We simply cannot afford an Obama presidency. It may well be the most important five bucks you'll ever spend.

/off soapbox


And if you like you can donate
here

356 hermeneutics  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:12:32pm

re: #352 Pvt Bin Jammin

So, I sent twenty bucks to the RNC and they asked me for my e-mail address. Back in the day, the newsletters came from the RNC itself. Now, I am getting GOP EAGLE or GOP FRIENDS. Yesterday I got this offer for a free book from them about an attack on the bible. Is anybody else getting these e-mail newsletters? I am also getting the pics of Cindy and John in the mail.

Yea, I'm getting it too. I thought I was getting the emails because I"m from Arizona, but I guess not.

357 Cartman  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:14:39pm

re: #355 Typicalwhitey

And if you like you can donate
here

Is that legit?

358 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:14:41pm

re: #354 Grandma

I still have a coupon book, issued to my dad during WWII when he was maybe 15. There are still a couple coupons left for coffee, sugar and kerosene.

359 melinwy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:15:48pm

re: #355 Typicalwhitey

thanks for the link
goodnight all
and Grandma thanks to you and your late husband, ya'll are what has made this nation great!

360 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:15:57pm

re: #356 hermeneutics
LOL I am in the Republic of Kalifornia, Los Angeles County, Obamaland.

361 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:17:28pm

re: #354 Grandma

Great post. Did your husband have to go to Korea as well. I knew folks who did.

362 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:18:26pm

re: #346 realwest

*noogie*

That was your goodnight noogie.

363 pbird  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:19:38pm

re: #133 JCM

Hah! You've never worked EMS!

I don't care what science says.
/

Heck, I can tell when the moon is full just be observing how whacked my female decendants are acting. I have also worked as an EMT and it is true, even if people just let themselves be crazy cause the moon is full!

364 slokat  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:21:12pm

Looks like I missed everything on the previous thread.

I took some pics @ the SLO Criterion Bike Race today. Just got through with other things & had a chance to check & upload the completed page.

365 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:24:40pm

re: #364 slokat
Nice pics. I was afraid they were going to be like the San Francisco nude race. LOL

366 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:25:04pm

re: #364 slokat

Nice shots. *sigh* I have to get a better camera for myself. My experimentation is going well but some things aren't turning out well at all. I have a few night shots that I haven't posted due to the poor flash or blurriness. Maybe in a year or so I will get a good camera.

367 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:28:05pm

re: #366 BlueCanuck
The artwork was cool but I was busy looking at Nietzehe. What kind of dog is that?

368 slokat  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:28:50pm

re: #366 BlueCanuck

What model camera are you shooting with?

369 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:29:03pm

re: #367 Pvt Bin Jammin

He's a border collie/shephard cross. Don't know if I will be getting anymore pictures of him though. I hope I will.

370 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:29:38pm

re: #369 BlueCanuck
He is very cute.

371 haakondahl  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:30:04pm

I'm in San Diego this week (as opposed to Japan). Anybody want to meet up? I never get to meet any lizards.

372 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:30:26pm

re: #368 slokat

A DXG 409. It was a really cheap camera. I got it almost two years ago and cost me about $100 dollars at the time. It was for work, but it has a lot of limitations.

373 zombie  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:32:32pm

I haven't posted any emails sent to Mohammed Image Archive for a while. Here's one that just arrived:

--------------------

From: mboateng1@....net
Subject: bastard
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:46:44

nothing is funny but you are just a spid son of a bich

-----------------------

I would have excused him by saying his "t" key must be stuck -- but he typed it successfully earlier in the email, so that won't work as an excuse.

374 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:33:08pm

re: #371 haakondahl
I think Maximus is not too far away. Desert Sage, myself and a few others are in Los Angeles county. It's a couple of hours north, but since it's a work week, doubt if we can go south.

375 grandma  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:33:09pm

Well, for those who asked, and I’m too fried and tired to reply individually, no, my late husband didn’t have to go to Korea. By then he had put in his service, and did it quite admirably, and lived to tell the tale, and went on to work for Lockheed developing their radar and guidance systems for the Polaris/Poseidon missiles and the Mark 86 tanks during the Cold War. That’s another story for another day. And as far as rationing during WWII, I had forgotten about the coffee rationing, probably because at that time I didn’t drink much coffee. But I do remember my mother buying G. Washington instant coffee with her ration coupons…. maybe that’s why I didn’t drink much coffee.

376 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:34:16pm

re: #373 zombie

Funny, I was just thinking earlier today that you were a spid son of a bich. I guess that email confirms my suspicions.

/

377 DesertSage  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:37:11pm

re: #374 Pvt Bin Jammin

My son and I rode to Mt. Baldy today, up over the mountain.

378 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:37:25pm

re: #373 zombie

Maybe the illustrious writer meant "insipid"?

379 slokat  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:38:29pm

re: #372 BlueCanuck

Biggest drawback for your night shots is that it has an underpowered flash & the flash is located too close to the lens.

Inside for people (or dog) shots you could bounce the flash off the ceiling, provided the ceiling wasn't too high - a little tape and part of a white business card would do the trick.

Outside you are stuck with the light rating, if you have the instruction booklet - I bet the chart puts max distance for flash @ 8' - 10'.

380 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:40:12pm

re: #375 grandma
I'm glad he didn't have to go to Korea too. Would love to hear you other stories sometime. My Dad was raising two sons from a previous marriage so they didn't take him in the service but both he and my mom were civilian employees of the Army Air Corps up in Lemore, CA. Dad used to teach the air corps guys how to fix planes. Mom did top secret secretarial stuff. Interesting history. See you down the road, Grandma.

381 haakondahl  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:40:14pm

re: #374 Pvt Bin Jammin
I am most definitely working, but I think that my schedule will ease off toward the end of the week. I may be able to arrange a long layover at LAX on Saturday (domestic-domestic) which would allow me to get through the beer coffee shops outside the security areas.

Thanks fr the info--I very much appreciate it, and will keep an eye out for Maximus.

382 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:40:55pm

re: #377 DesertSage
Very cool. Hope you had fun.

383 Karridine  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:41:14pm

Desert Sage, Slokat, Victor, BlueC, Noam, Grandma, PBJ et alia!

Wh oda spid bich?

Bei mir bist du schoen...

384 haakondahl  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:41:58pm

Of course I will buy at least the first couple of beers for any spid sons of biches who show up, either in SDgo or LA (that is to say, both locations if I am so lucky).

385 DesertSage  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:42:44pm

This is seriously trippy.
[Link: www.blublu.org...]

386 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:43:17pm

re: #379 slokat

Thanks for the tip. One of the biggest problems I have noticed with inside shots is that even with the red eye reduction feature, every one gets these crazy demon red eyes. Even with some photo editing software I can't remove it all. I will try the business card trick next time I have to take inside/night shots.

/now I have to dig out my manual from where I dumped it.

387 haakondahl  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:43:49pm

re: #383 Karridine

Karridine, I was wondering if I should get myself an alternate spelling like you have, say, "ghokandall". Does it makes your interwebs faster? :-)

388 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:44:43pm

re: #383 Karridine

Hey Karridine. How goes it in the burbs of Bangkok.

389 Amy  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:44:58pm

Gee, what an exciting evening, with everybody being Mandy, and the banning stick flying... I'm plum tuckered out!

'Night, Lizards.

390 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:45:06pm

re: #377 DesertSage

I'm entertaining the idea of a nice cruiser for purchase in the next couple years. At first, I was thinking about the Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT Classic, but by the time I make the move, I'll probably go for the more substantial 1300.

Any thoughts?

391 haakondahl  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:45:48pm

By the way, what's the word on Miguel? I have been, er, away, but keeping up when I can.

392 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:47:13pm

re: #385 DesertSage
Darn, I already rebooted and I still cannot click on that link. It's probably just some kind of link where they are jumping off of cliffs anyway.

393 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:48:09pm

re: #385 DesertSage

Okay. Which one of you put the acid in my cocktail?

394 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:48:53pm

re: #393 Noam Sayin'
Was the link that bad?

395 pat  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:48:54pm

re: #393 Noam Sayin'

Okay. Which one of you put the acid in my cocktail?

OK, i did.

396 ibmkeyboard  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:49:55pm
A US Embassy official said Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama arrived in Iraq on Monday.
Obama was expected to meet Gen. David Petraeus as well as Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki while in the country, although aides provided few details, citing security concerns.
Obama has called for withdrawing American troops at the rate of one or two brigades per month, and an end to combat operations within 16 months.

He has said he favors leaving a residual force in the country to provide security for US personnel, train Iraqis and counter attacks by al-Qaida.
a residual force in the country to provide security for US personnel, train Iraqis and counter attacks by al-Qaida.
Uh..... Ur......We will only need 125,000 troops and maybe a draft..

Dumb ass.

/sorry- Messiah!

397 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:50:19pm

"Barack Obama in Baghdad to meet with U.S. commanders"

Are they under any requirement at all to receive him?

Or are they allowed to tell him to pi$$ off, since he isn't anywhere in the chain of command and has no respect for true soldiers' work?

398 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:50:32pm

re: #394 Pvt Bin Jammin

Was the link that bad?

Trippy. Very trippy.

399 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:50:52pm

re: #395 pat

OK, i did.

Thanks.

400 Karridine  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:52:20pm

Haakon, Blue... the interwebs are about the same speed afaik,
and suburban BKK today is sunny with stiff breezes at times, scattered clouds and possibility of scattered, brief thunderstorm or showers...

In other words, BEE-YOO-tiful!

The rapid drops in fuel prices have had a marvelous, calming effect on the usual insane Thai politics here... mostly... somewhat...

401 slokat  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:52:59pm

re: #386 BlueCanuck the red eye pre-flashes are supposed to make people's pupils dilate so that you don't see as much of the back of their eyes.

402 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:53:09pm

"Tropical Storm Cristobal heads toward ocean"

No, it's already on the ocean.

What fools these morons be.

403 DesertSage  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:54:00pm

re: #390 Noam Sayin'

I'm entertaining the idea of a nice cruiser for purchase in the next couple years. At first, I was thinking about the Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT Classic, but by the time I make the move, I'll probably go for the more substantial 1300.

Any thoughts?

If I were going to get a strictly street bike, I would get a cruiser also. I'm not into the crotch rockets.
The Kawasaki looks good, are you sure you're ready for that though?

Oh, and be careful when you're towing a trailer!

404 victor_yugo  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:54:10pm

re: #401 slokat

the red eye pre-flashes are supposed to make people's pupils dilate so that you don't see as much of the back of their eyes.

Don't you mean "constrict"? Dilation would let more light in and out, not less.

405 Fat Jolly Penguin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:54:27pm

The MyBO post has 'sploded. Big surprise, I know. (Wendya figured it out first, thought you'd like to know.)

Oh, and Brinks is an ass.

406 Karridine  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:55:20pm

re: #391 haakondahl

Miguelito down in Mexico suffered a TIA or a stroke... Transient Ischemic Accident or its parallel, Bleedy Brain... but he's back keyboarding on occasions, some effects, but loss of cheerful spirit NOT among them...

407 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:55:30pm

re: #398 Noam Sayin'
Was it worth another reboot?

408 Tamron  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:56:12pm

re: #170 Pvt Bin Jammin

Doesn't the word lunacy come from lunar?

In my 1910 Century Encyclopedic Dictionary, the historical derivation of the word 'lunatic' says that the Latin root is indeed 'luna' or moon. That Latin root (dating back to Roman days, evidently) says that a lunatic is 'moonstruck'.

Looking up 'moonstruck', Century says, "Affected or regarded as affected in mind or health by the light of the moon; lunatic; crazed; dazed."

--So there's definitely an authoritarian dictionary correlation between 'lunatic' and the symptoms of being 'moonstruck', but DOES THAT MAKE IT SCIENCE?

It's been widely accepted for a long time, but this is one of those anecdotal phenomena -- kinda like PMS, or mercury poisoning -- that you'll never be able to do a definitive double-blind, crossover study on.

Back to square one.
.

409 BlueCanuck  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:57:30pm

re: #385 DesertSage

Bizarre is the only way to describe that. Very well done though. Especially how the animation interacts with non amimated items.

410 Colonel Panik  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:57:41pm

re: #298 abolitionist

American B-52 Bomber Crashes Near Guam

Lord, guard and guide the men who fly
Through the great spaces in the sky.
Be with them always in the air,
In darkening storms or sunlight fair;
Oh, hear us when we lift our prayer,
For those in peril in the air!

411 haakondahl  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:58:07pm

re: #408 Tamron

In my 1910 Century Encyclopedic Dictionary, the historical derivation of the word 'lunatic' says that the Latin root is indeed 'luna' or moon. That Latin root (dating back to Roman days, evidently) says that a lunatic is 'moonstruck'.

Looking up 'moonstruck', Century says, "Affected or regarded as affected in mind or health by the light of the moon; lunatic; crazed; dazed."

--So there's definitely an authoritarian dictionary correlation between 'lunatic' and the symptoms of being 'moonstruck', but DOES THAT MAKE IT SCIENCE?

It's been widely accepted for a long time, but this is one of those anecdotal phenomena -- kinda like PMS, or mercury poisoning -- that you'll never be able to do a definitive double-blind, crossover study on.

Back to square one.
.

That's "hysterical".

412 zombie  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:58:50pm

re: #385 DesertSage

This is seriously trippy.
[Link: www.blublu.org...]

Wow, that really is trippy. Rare to see something one has never seen before, in this day and age! Unbelievably labor-intensive, amazing how they put it all together. Must have taken weeks and weeks, at least.

413 slokat  Sun, Jul 20, 2008 11:59:15pm

re: #404 victor_yugo

Ooops! backwards, thanks for the correction - constrict!

Two ways not to get bounce from flash off the back of the eye - CONSTRICT or have the light enter at an angle that is not in line with the lens.

414 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:00:00am

re: #401 slokat

Yeah, I understand the principal but it doesn't seem to work with my camera. Maybe I should read the manual now that I am using it more. Or just call my shots guerilla photography. :)

415 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:01:22am

re: #408 Tamron
Thanks for looking all of that up. I still swear that all the "loons" come out on the full moon. But we are apparently back to square one.

416 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:02:19am

re: #412 zombie
Okay, I am rebooting my computer just to see that.

417 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:02:44am

re: #397 victor_yugo

"Barack Obama in Baghdad to meet with U.S. commanders"

Are they under any requirement at all to receive him?

Or are they allowed to tell him to pi$$ off, since he isn't anywhere in the chain of command and has no respect for true soldiers' work?

he's a Congress critter, so it's unlikely that any lifer will be anything other than fawning.


/past experience

418 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:02:52am

re: #412 zombie

Wow, that really is trippy. Rare to see something one has never seen before, in this day and age! Unbelievably labor-intensive, amazing how they put it all together. Must have taken weeks and weeks, at least.

I wonder if they had the entire concept thought out beforehand or if they just made it up as they went along?

419 zombie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:02:58am

re: #416 Pvt Bin Jammin

Okay, I am rebooting my computer just to see that.

It's not just trippy -- it's spid!

420 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:03:44am

re: #403 DesertSage

I'm thinking a couple years out while I get my biking wits about me.

Maybe I'll be satisfied with the scoot, but quite frankly, I've never been one to be satisfied with the status quo. Besides, there's a great river run along the Mississippi and St. Croix rivers that is out of the performance envelope for the scoot. It's great to drive in the jeep; top down, but I simply can't burn through the fuel for that with a good conscience. And northern MN & WI are some of the most beautiful places in the country to ride, sans mountainous regions - deep forests and winding roads. I want something I can carry some gear and a small tent in.

421 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:03:47am

re: #410 Colonel Panik

Lord, guard and guide the men who fly
Through the great spaces in the sky.
Be with them always in the air,
In darkening storms or sunlight fair;
Oh, hear us when we lift our prayer,
For those in peril in the air!

and the female crew members too.

/updating the lyrics, not the intent

422 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:04:24am

I have a friend in Honolulu who worked as an EMT for many years there and he swears their calls increase on a full moon.

He also had some very amusing and disgusting stories about people seeking pleasure by putting various things in a certain portion of their anatomy and their resultant troubles when they were unable to get them back out again.

423 zombie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:04:26am

re: #418 DesertSage

Well, they must have planned it out somewhat, because thedy needed long flat walls to do the animation on. Would have been pretty shortsighted to start off on a wall that ends prematurely.

424 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:04:50am

re: #407 Pvt Bin Jammin

Was it worth another reboot?

Absolutely. It's a very trippy video, as Zombie has echoed.

425 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:05:52am

re: #414 BlueCanuck

Yeah, I understand the principal but it doesn't seem to work with my camera. Maybe I should read the manual now that I am using it more. Or just call my shots guerilla photography. :)

'cause you're just monkeying around?

/RTFM!

426 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:06:01am

re: #406 Karridine

Miguelito down in Mexico suffered a TIA or a stroke... Transient Ischemic Accident or its parallel, Bleedy Brain... but he's back keyboarding on occasions, some effects, but loss of cheerful spirit NOT among them...

I have been trying to catch him lately and haven't, If you do see him would you please give him my wishes for a speedy recovery? I would greatly appreciate that.e

427 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:07:42am

And for the record, I've never done acid.

Magic mushrooms, sure.

In the boundry waters. Though why we thought we needed mushrooms up there is beyond me.

428 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:08:04am

re: #423 zombie

I meant the animation itself. Did they know what they were going to draw as they went along? Or did they just kind of go with the flow, whatever they thought up on that particular day?

429 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:09:21am

re: #425 redc1c4

'cause you're just monkeying around?

/RTFM!

I know, I know. I am a big fan of saying that to other people as well. Unfortunately one reason I have stopped doing it is that most effin manuals are so information sparse that any question you have on your product won't be answered in it.

/had that problem with my new cell phone recently.

430 freetoken  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:09:47am

re: #426 coquimbojoe

He had been checking in here much earlier than before he had his stroke, perhaps to get more sleep at night. He sounded as if he had gotten his family to help him... so we all wish him a speedy recovery.

431 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:11:07am

re: #427 Noam Sayin'

And for the record, I've never done acid.

Magic mushrooms, sure.

In the boundry waters. Though why we thought we needed mushrooms up there is beyond me.

so you wouldn't notice the mosquitoes?

/just a swag %-)

432 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:12:27am

re: #429 BlueCanuck

I know, I know. I am a big fan of saying that to other people as well. Unfortunately one reason I have stopped doing it is that most effin manuals are so information sparse that any question you have on your product won't be answered in it.

/had that problem with my new cell phone recently.

RTFM, *then* biatch......

/what i do.

433 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:13:33am

re: #385 DesertSage

This is seriously trippy.
[Link: www.blublu.org...]

Reminded me of this, which I have just loved for years.

434 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:17:57am

re: #431 redc1c4

Yeah, it's best to travel up there in early- to mid-May, or some time after mid-August, from what I remember. The rest of the summer is absolutely miserable for the mosquitoes, black flies and deer flies - air pirhanas. I watched a swarm of them strip the flesh of a bull moose in about 20 minutes.

But then again, I was whacked on mushrooms.

435 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:18:17am

re: #433 haakondahl

Reminded me of this, which I have just loved for years.

That was......funky :')

436 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:19:17am

piranhas...

437 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:19:27am

re: #435 DesertSage

That was......funky :')

Funky Fresh!

438 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:20:08am

re: #434 Noam Sayin'

Barstow to Vegas is coming up again in Nov.
No flying insects whatsoever. You in?

439 victor_yugo  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:21:52am

re: #433 haakondahl

Reminded me of this, which I have just loved for years.

This one is good as impressionistic art. (Not to mention a finger in the eye of Disney.)

440 jcw46  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:23:06am

re: #392 Pvt Bin Jammin

Just a thought; do you have all the updates for v.6? also although win defender is weak, you can use it to locate and disable software that gets loaded at startup. Another thing to do is look in I.E. Manage Add-ons (tools menu) and look to see if suspicious or unwanted stuff is running. You can disable an add-on and then see if there's any improvement. using search for suspicious file/apps running in the task manager (press ctrl-alt-del) will let you research who wrote the file and sometimes what it's for. you can remove running processes that you're SURE aren't supposed to be running (because you deleted/uninstalled them) and then reboot to see if they come back. go to problem 'ware's website for info.
I bought a virus program that was more problems than the possibility of a virus. p.i.a. to deal with and when I uninstalled it, remnants were still around. (as an amateur programmer; I DESPISE programmer's who can't/too-lazy-to program for the user).

441 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:23:13am

re: #390 Noam Sayin'

I'm entertaining the idea of a nice cruiser for purchase in the next couple years. At first, I was thinking about the Kawasaki Vulcan 900 LT Classic, but by the time I make the move, I'll probably go for the more substantial 1300.

Any thoughts?


I moved up to a Goldwing 1200, and it was like driving a bus. But I got used to it, and learned where I could push it and where I couldn't, and believe me--underneath all that luxury, there's still a mean streetbike. Then I moved back to a Steed (Shadow) 600, and it was like riding a bicycle, and not in a good way.

Get the 1300, and ride mellow. It's just nice to have the Giddyup! when you need it, and there's no substitute.

442 Karridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:28:21am

re: #441 haakondahl

Second that, unreservedly. Power when you need it, and Kawasaki quality in the machine.

/I rode my Kawasaki from Des Moines to Sonoma, December 19 to 24, a few years back... C O L D! but beautiful America!

443 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:30:43am

re: #441 haakondahl

I see Noam riding a VMax

444 Karridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:31:49am

re: #426 coquimbojoe

I certainly shall... IF I remember WHY I set myself a flag-mnemonic for Miguel...

See, I had a TIA myself the week of the Christmas Tsunami, and it twisted my memory a bit... But I'm honored to carry YOUR message, Joe!

445 victor_yugo  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:32:37am

re: #442 Karridine

/I rode my Kawasaki from Des Moines to Sonoma, December 19 to 24, a few years back... C O L D! but beautiful America!

I've driven the Ohio/California trip four times, all in winter months. Well worth the time and gas.

446 Karridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:35:15am

re: #445 victor_yugo

I've driven the Ohio/California trip four times, all in winter months. Well worth the time and gas.


Really? Wow, I'm not alone... I only dropped the machine on black-ice once, Flagstaff, at about 1/2-mile an hour, so no harm done...

Whatcha ride, Victor?

447 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:35:18am

re: #443 DesertSage

I see Noam riding a VMax

Well, if you put it that way... Why not get a bike better than a VMax?

448 victor_yugo  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:37:43am

re: #446 Karridine

Whatcha ride, Victor?

Honda Civic CRX, every time. The last trip, it got 46 mpg, even being fully loaded down.

449 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:37:50am

Woo Hoo I'm in, I'm in. I'm a lizard again.....three boots later.

450 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:38:35am

re: #447 haakondahl

Well, if you put it that way... Why not get a bike better than a VMax?

Good one.

451 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:39:23am

re: #438 DesertSage

Barstow to Vegas is coming up again in Nov.
No flying insects whatsoever. You in?

How big of an ATV would I need to keep up. Most of my riding in my youth was off-road, but let's face it - I grew up on the great plains.

Perhaps me and my attorney (realwest) could cover the race in our rented convertible.

"We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like 'I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive. . . .' And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about a hundred miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas. And a voice was screaming: 'Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals?'"

452 jcw46  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:40:22am

re: #385 DesertSage

Did they actually paint ON the surfaces or did they add the animation as layers to the frames of video shots of the surfaces?

453 BignJames  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:41:17am

re: #451 Noam Sayin'


Don't throw the radio in the tub.

454 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:41:19am

re: #443 DesertSage

Beautiful bike!

455 jcw46  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:41:36am

re: #449 Pvt Bin Jammin

look up thread to my 440 for suggestions about i.e.

456 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:41:51am

re: #451 Noam Sayin'
I have an old convertable. You and realwest can have the back seat.

457 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:42:21am

re: #455 jcw46
Thanks, I'll check it out.

458 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:43:52am

re: #451 Noam Sayin'

Noam, no ATV's allowed. Lots of single track trails that are barely even wide enough for a motorcycle or a jackrabbit.

Barstow.....Barstow

459 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:44:01am

re: #456 Pvt Bin Jammin

I have an old convertable. You and realwest can have the back seat.

Perfect. Frees us up for consuming liquor and ether.

And swatting bats...

460 victor_yugo  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:44:52am

re: #452 jcw46

Did they actually paint ON the surfaces or did they add the animation as layers to the frames of video shots of the surfaces?

It looks like they used the walls as their canvas.

461 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:45:13am

re: #452 jcw46

Did they actually paint ON the surfaces or did they add the animation as layers to the frames of video shots of the surfaces?

I don't know for sue, but it looks like they painted the actual surfaces.

462 BignJames  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:46:25am

re: #459 Noam Sayin'

Nothing worse than a man in the depths of an ether binge.

463 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:46:49am

re: #452 jcw46

Did they actually paint ON the surfaces or did they add the animation as layers to the frames of video shots of the surfaces?

The blublu animation was eefinitely done on the walls. Shittybum, definitely not.

464 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:47:18am

e-1

465 haakondahl  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:47:40am

Good night, all--shutting down.

466 victor_yugo  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:48:42am

'night, haak.

467 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:50:13am

Night haakondahl, weet dreams.

468 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:50:38am

Gonna bail, y'all. It's the most quiet part of the most quiet night of any in the inner-city of Minneapolis.

Besides, it's nearly 3:00 am here. While I'm not going to work in the morning, I'm going to adhere to my alarm clock.

469 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:51:05am

Oh, yeah. Weet dreams, everyone.

470 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:51:33am

re: #465 haakondahl
Nite. I am out too.

471 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:52:21am

re: #469 Noam Sayin'
'weet dreams, Noam.

472 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:53:16am

Later Noam, PBJ. Have yourselves a good sleep.

473 Mel Lono  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:53:57am

re: #451 Noam Sayin'

The Doctor is in.

474 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 12:58:33am

re: #440 jcw46
I am out of here in a minute but thanks again. I have cut and pasted your info for morning when I am thinking more clearly. LOL I really wonder if it is that dam* norton. I disabled it but when my computer "sleeps" or even on the reboot, I have to do the Control, Alt, Delete...sometimes more than once. What shows, is the security agreement with norton. I am not pleased with those symatec folks.
Nite, nite.

475 jcw46  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:00:03am

Me too. Nite all.

476 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:01:27am

re: #434 Noam Sayin'

Yeah, it's best to travel up there in early- to mid-May, or some time after mid-August, from what I remember. The rest of the summer is absolutely miserable for the mosquitoes, black flies and deer flies - air pirhanas. I watched a swarm of them strip the flesh of a bull moose in about 20 minutes.

But then again, I was whacked on mushrooms.

Vitamin B-6 will bring you right back down......

477 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:05:30am

re: #449 Pvt Bin Jammin

Woo Hoo I'm in, I'm in. I'm a lizard again.....three boots later.

i fel yo' pain....

/not that i'm feeling any pain. %-)

478 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:07:16am

re: #456 Pvt Bin Jammin

I have an old convertable. You and realwest can have the back seat.

that sounds *way* kinky......

/filming rights?

479 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:11:39am

well, with everyone checked out, now would be a good time to deal with the fruitcup issue......


/brb

480 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:12:28am

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

481 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:30:05am

shhhh!

482 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:31:55am

ZZZZZZZ..... what?

483 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:32:58am

re: #481 littleoldlady

shhhh!

target lock from 3 different sensors....... HE Quick and Willie Pete in effect!

/oh.

it's you....... *that* was close. %-)

484 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:34:43am

re: #483 redc1c4

Should dial down those sensors a notch. Or at least the trigger.

485 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:37:36am

re: #483 redc1c4

I AM STANDING UP!

/what part of "little"oldlady don't you get?
//OY!

486 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:46:25am
Jimmy Carter: Hamas should swap Shalit for dozens of jailed Hamas officials (Haaretz)
487 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:49:37am

re: #486 zulubaby
And get back another coffin? I don't know about you folks but I don't believe that the exchange is worth it. Besides how many of us believe that Hamas has kept him alive this long.

488 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:50:03am

Right. Because the last trade worked out so well.

zulubaby! :-)

489 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:51:55am

Well with news like that, I am sure that it's shaping up to be a typical Monday.

490 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:55:17am

re: #484 BlueCanuck

Should dial down those sensors a notch. Or at least the trigger.

all that is just fine..... you'll note i *didn't* pull the trigger.

/why dull a sharp edge?re: #485 littleoldlady

I AM STANDING UP!

/what part of "little"oldlady don't you get?
//OY!

Oi to the world!

491 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:57:53am

re: #489 BlueCanuck

Well with news like that, I am sure that it's shaping up to be a typical Monday.

i don't like Mondays.....

492 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->
Help yourselves!

493 Clemente  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:03:49am

Hmm... Change™, or....

re: #492 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->
Help yourselves!

I'll take fruit cup I can count on, every time!

494 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:05:50am

Clemente! :-)

I'm mind-numbingly consistent, aren't I? :-/

495 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:06:49am

re: #494 littleoldlady

But we do need an island of stability in the world. Thank you for being at least one of them. :)

496 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:07:04am

re: #493 Clemente

Hmm... Change™, or....

I'll take fruit cup I can count on, every time!

too bad you can't do that........

/reality

497 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:08:25am

re: #495 BlueCanuck

But we do need an island of stability in the world. Thank you for being at least one of them. :)

you have something against "Change!"?

/writing name down in little book......

498 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:08:29am

Morning all.

Make my fruit cup a double, please.

499 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:10:36am

re: #497 redc1c4

Not at all, but some things need to be consitent. Not all change is bad. But change for change sake, isn't always good.

500 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:11:23am

Dan! :-)

501 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:11:32am

re: #491 redc1c4

Wow, I didn't know Jerry Seinfeld was the lead singer of the Boomtown Rats!

502 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:12:32am

Hi Littleoldlady.

Thanks for the fruitcup... it's as fresh as it's ever been.

503 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:16:09am
504 rightside  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:24:51am

Morning Lizards!

505 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:26:00am

Morning rightside.

506 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:27:43am
507 rightwinger3  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:37:25am

' morning lizards. How is everyone? Check out these pictures of me and my friends!

508 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:38:45am

re: #501 AmeriDan

Wow, I didn't know Jerry Seinfeld was the lead singer of the Boomtown Rats!

like Jerry Seinfeld would come up with anything that insightful and trenchant....... he's just another boring new yorker who thinks he's entertaining.

as do all the other transplants.

(now can they all go home? %-)

/solve the traffic problem, straight up!

509 Da_Beerfreak  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:41:35am

B-52 bomber crashes near Guam

A hell of a way to start the week...
// {:-(™

510 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:41:48am

re: #507 rightwinger3

"Basking"? So that's what they're calling it these days...

;-)

You're very cute!

/please excuse the weird music mood

511 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:42:45am

re: #509 Da_Beerfreak

OY OY OY :-(

512 zulubaby  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:44:26am

re: #488 littleoldlady

Hi! :-)

re: #487 BlueCanuck

And get back another coffin? I don't know about you folks but I don't believe that the exchange is worth it. Besides how many of us believe that Hamas has kept him alive this long.

Actually, I do think Shalit is still alive.

The shame is that Carter won't shut up already!

513 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:46:42am

re: #512 zulubaby

So when will his family put him in a nursing home already. That doddering old wreck is definitely past his sell by date.

514 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:51:44am

His family?!

/sure, THAT will happen.

515 rightwinger3  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:53:07am

re: #510 littleoldlady

"Basking"? So that's what they're calling it these days...

;-)

You're very cute!

/please excuse the weird music mood

Thanks, LoL, but I should come clean. I'm the "Old Adult" about halfway down the page.

516 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:54:20am

re: #514 littleoldlady

I know, I know. Wishful thinking on my part.

517 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:01:54am

re: #509 Da_Beerfreak

B-52 bomber crashes near Guam

A hell of a way to start the week...
// {:-(™

to absent comrades.....

518 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:03:29am

re: #36 steve

You should say

"—W.T. Sherman"

after that.

519 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:03:56am

re: #513 BlueCanuck

/self censored......

520 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:11:41am

I have to rock and roll, folks.

New Student Orientation today, which means I have to sit through a bunch of boring presentations.

/been there, done that...
//sheesh

Good day, ALL!™

521 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:11:58am

Morning all.
Zulubaby!
Littloldlady- I took one of the daughters up to Lehigh Valley for camp for three weeks yesterday. When I left her and walked back to the car, I was wishing I could turn around, take her home with me. Sigh.
She called last night, has made fast friends. Not a surprise.

522 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:12:53am

re: #45 Charles

I'm going to start deleting spinoff links about that ridiculous, delusional "Obama's birth certificate is forged" story. This has gone way past stupid and into conspiracy theory territory.

there are enough real issues to care about a birth cert.

523 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:13:35am

re: #520 littleoldlady

that is why they pay you the big bucks

524 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:15:34am

re: #520 littleoldlady

I have to rock and roll, folks.

New Student Orientation today, which means I have to sit through a bunch of boring presentations.

/been there, done that...
//sheesh

Good day, ALL!™

sucks to be you..... %-)

525 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:15:57am

re: #521 Jim in Virginia

HI {My Rove!}

I know that feeling. :-/ Wait until you drop her (them) off to college.

(Yesterday COULD have been a lot more fun than it was. :-( I have to plan something for end of summer...)

526 littleoldlady  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:16:48am

re: #523 yochanan

that is why they pay you the big bucks

yochanan! :-)

I think you've got that backwards...

527 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:17:58am

re: #507 rightwinger3

almost looks like mating season
no one ever tells me

528 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:19:41am

I ♥ FRUITCUP

529 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:22:00am

were is Z JABOTINSKY when we need him?

530 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:23:59am

re: #507 rightwinger3

I saw "marine iguanas" and thought, "USMC Lizards."
Need coffee, stat.

531 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:24:51am

re: #530 Jim in Virginia

I saw "marine iguanas" and thought, "USMC Lizards."
Need coffee, stat.

I am sure we have a jar head lizard or two
semper fi.

532 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:29:51am
533 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:30:36am

re: #531 yochanan
Yeah, but the picture doesn't fit, I don't want to insult a jarhead.

534 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:32:49am

re: #533 Jim in Virginia

Yeah, but the picture doesn't fit, I don't want to insult a jarhead.

I am sure you wouldn't. They swear half the D.I.'s were hatched to begin with. :)

535 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:37:46am

white smoke & weet dreams to all....

L8r!

536 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:37:59am
537 Jim in Virginia  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:38:07am

re: #534 BlueCanuck
Blue Canuck, hope things are better with you.
I gotta go to work. Play safe, lizards.

538 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:38:30am

Night red, stay safe, stay drunk.

/don't w*rk too hard

539 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:39:10am

re: #537 Jim in Virginia

Have a good one Jim. And yes things are getting better.

540 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:06:38am

s...l....o....w....m...o...r...n...i...n...g

541 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:08:14am

Good morning, Lizards!

{BlueCanuck}!

542 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:11:56am

Good Morning {goddess}. Looks like everyone else is link diving this morning.

543 rightside  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:20:30am

{goddess}

544 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:25:24am

that obama is half black is not even in the top 10 reasons I am opposed to him with all my ♥ & soul now maybe it is in my top 20 reasons. But then i bet 90% of the blacks in AmeriKKKA (scarsism) that is the only reason they supported him over Hillary as there were no real differences between the two of them.

the fact that John McCain looks a hell of a lot like me and that I agree with him about 60% of the time. I have never voted for my congresscritter and she is from the same ethnic group i am and she holds the same types of leftist/defeatist views as obama. Besides being in total disagreement with obama on foriegn policy and energy policy frankly I am worried how the black underclass would behive if obama was elected i remember when harold washington was mayor of chicago and the behavior that was shown at that time. frankly with obama as president heaven help us.

545 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:27:19am

{rightside}!

How are you today?

546 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:29:39am

I'm feeling really gassy this morning.

547 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:32:07am

Later all, time to go. Stay scaly.

548 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:37:00am

I've got to go, too. Have a great day!

549 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:43:04am

Helllllooooooooooooo!

550 Karridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:43:26am

The FUN...
.
.
.
.
.
has arrived!

/Goddess?
/Blue?

// . . dang

551 Karridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:44:03am

re: #549 MandyManners

Gracious Goodness!

I'm Mandy!

/eat THAT, Prinks!

552 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:49:03am

re: #551 Karridine

LOL! He certainly was a vexacious cuss.

553 fat bastard vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:52:55am

re: #552 MandyManners

Hey, Wha's this I am Mandy stuff?...been out of the "blue nowhere" for days. What'd I miss?

554 rightside  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:53:32am

re: #545 goddessoftheclassroom

sorry for the delay, I am fine thanks..you?

555 Karridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:53:38am

re: #552 MandyManners

He certainly is a GONE cuss.

*** *
glad I can hand the baton to somebody, as night is falling in dusky, jasmine-scented suburban Bangkok...

Take care, Mandy! CUL :D

556 Karridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:55:25am

re: #553 fat bastard vegetarian

Brink, (one thread down) attacked Mandy then attacked 'All you Mandys' then found himself sitting alone, outside...

This thread BEGAN where it left off: Spartacus' friends shouting, "I am Mandy!"

No, ME! I'm Mandy! :D

557 tappin52  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:03:06am

re: #125 Mich-again

There is no science that supports the notion that people act crazier on the nights in which there is a full moon than they do on any other random night.

As someoine who used to staff a hospital, married to someone who was a Corrections Lieutenant in the prison system, I could not disagree with you more.

558 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:04:20am

re: #553 fat bastard vegetarian

Hey, Wha's this I am Mandy stuff?...been out of the "blue nowhere" for days. What'd I miss?

Some jerk piddled last night.

559 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:04:46am

re: #556 Karridine

"All you Mandy's?"

Awesome. That is what would be on his tombstone if there were a freaking troll graveyard! Which there is not. Which there should be. Etc.

560 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:05:04am

re: #555 Karridine

Have a good night!

561 tappin52  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:05:10am

Can I be Mandy now?

562 Karridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:05:33am

re: #558 MandyManners

Terse.
Concise.
Accurate, yet pithy...

/I LIKE IT!

I'mowdda yeer!

563 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:07:26am

"Mandy" is now an adjective? How do we make the "f" word a modifyer?

564 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:09:16am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone today?
/oh I am Mandy

565 opnion  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:15:37am

re: #544 yochanan

Your Congresswoman Jan Shankowski?

566 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:17:21am

re: #557 tappin52

As someoine who used to staff a hospital, married to someone who was a Corrections Lieutenant in the prison system, I could not disagree with you more.

I agree. From what I saw as a reporter, law enforcement and EMT's were much busier during a full moon.

567 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:19:03am

re: #561 tappin52

Can I be Mandy now?

Please. I gotta' go tend to some stuff.

Later, all you loverly Mandys.

568 opnion  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:22:50am

re: #563 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Mandy" is now an adjective? How do we make the "f" word a modifyer?

The F word works for every emotion, surprise , anger , joy etc. Think about it.

569 3 wood  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:27:17am

Good Morning Lizards:

The grim total keeps mounting. We must withdraw from Chicago now!

Man slain on South Side

A male who suffered at least two gunshot wounds to the head was found slain outside a house on the South Side's Woodlawn neighborhood early Monday, police said.

Police responded to the 6600 block of South Michigan Avenue, where they found the body of a male lying outside of a house, according to police.


and:

One killed, one injured in Little Village shooting

One man is dead and another hospitalized Monday morning after being shot in a possibly gang-related incident in the Little Village neighborhood on the Southwest Side.

A 20-year-old man was shot and killed about 12:25 a.m. in the 2500 block of South Harding Avenue, according to police News Affairs, who said the man was dead on the scene.

Emilio Tamayo, 26, was fatally shot and was pronounced dead on the scene at an unidentified time, the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office said.

A second 20-year-old man suffered a gunshot wound to his chest and is in “stable” condition at Mount Sinai Hospital.

and:

Stray bullets kill 1, injure another at bar

Shots fired outside a Ukrainian Village tavern struck and killed a woman tending bar inside and injured a patron late Saturday night, Chicago Police said Sunday.

Margarita Banuelos, 39, of the 6200 block of North Hermitage, was struck in the back. Her death has been ruled a homicide, the Cook County medical examiner's office said.

An unidentified 19-year-old man was shot in the hand. The shootings took place around 11:49 p.m. in the 800 block of North Ashland, police said.

Mayor Daley (Democrat) and Gov. Blagojevich (Democrat) lied and people died.

Out of Chicago, now!

570 doriangrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:34:08am

Good morning Lizards...............No I am not Mandy.........

571 opnion  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:37:22am

re: #570 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards...............No I am not Mandy.........

But are you having a Mandy good day? You know, stayin cool, keepin it Mandy.

572 doriangrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:38:27am

re: #571 opnion

But are you having a Mandy good day? You know, stayin cool, keepin it Mandy.

Making Mandy squeal like a little girl would make my day though.....

573 opnion  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:43:22am

re: #572 doriangrey

Making Mandy squeal like a little girl would make my day though.....

Oh behaaaaaaave. Yeah baby, yeah!

574 razorbacker  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:44:18am

Busy morn already.

Wife comes in the bathroom and announces, in a voice best reserved for "There's a mushroom cloud over the house!" that, "I've broken the coffeepot!"

"Are you cut?"

"No."

"Are you scalded?"

"No."

"What happened?"

"I set the pot on the warming plate and the pot broke."

"Then you didn't break it, it self-destructed. Don't worry."

So I get out of the shower and slip on a pair of moccasins and go out to the storage shed to find the old percolatorlook it up, kiddys. An antique device used to brew coffee. And you know what? That thing makes a vile brew! No wonder our forebearers were so salty. You start your morning sucking down that swill and you're pretty much sure nothing worse is going to happen to you all day.

See all y'all later. Have as good a day as circumstances permit.

575 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:45:16am

re: #565 opnion

you got it can't stand her speaks out of both sides of her mouth

576 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:48:32am

re: #563 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Mandy" is now an adjective? How do we make the "f" word a modifyer?

Join the army. Four letter words eventually become adjectives. :)

577 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:49:21am

ventura been drinking the koolaid

578 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:51:12am

re: #576 BlueCanuck

adjectives, pro nouns, verbs, nouns. adverb & connection. and new uses no one has thought of yet.

579 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:53:22am

re: #570 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards...............No I am not Mandy.........


You vill be mandy and you vill likes it!
Morning Dorian

580 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:53:31am

re: #578 yochanan

Yep, nothing funnier than listening to a quebecer speaking english that he learned in the army.

581 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:54:00am

[Link: www.killsometime.com...]

a very useful word indeed

582 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:55:42am

quebecer are funny to begin with cast off french hard to look down your nose when you really are from french country bumpkins 300 years ago

583 yochanan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:58:17am

re: #574 razorbacker

first step clean the damn thing

584 doriangrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:58:20am

re: #579 HoosierHoops

You vill do mandy and you vill likes it!
Morning Dorian


Ah, much better.... Morning to you to HoosierHoops..... ;)

585 doriangrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:00:32am

Ah hell, seems it time to head off to work again...

586 christheprofessor  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:00:36am

Heh...

587 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:01:47am

re: #578 yochanan

adjectives, pro nouns, verbs, nouns. adverb & connection. and new uses no one has thought of yet.

Oh yes - Army Creole, charming little language...

Good Morning Everybody!

588 3 wood  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:05:50am

Congrats to Padraig Harrington for playing an outstanding round of golf yesterday to win his 2nd consecutive British open.

And good show to Greg Norman for coming back from a hip replacement, other injuries, and 7 years off from competitive golf to at age 53 come very close to winning the tournament. A couple bounces the other way here and there on Saturday and Norman would have been so far out in front that nobody could have caught him.

589 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:09:35am

Does anyone else have to keep two tabs of LGF open, one for the new comments and one to refresh the Linkviewer? I love linkviewer. I haven't been to Drudge once since that came on-line.

590 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:11:34am

Good morning all y'all - from a hot (74 degrees going to 99 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

591 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:13:11am
592 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:17:49am

re: #589 Spenser (with an S) Hey Spenser (with an S) if I use the link viewer, I can't see this page, but if I hit go back button it brings me back to the thread, but to the top and has "forgotten" my e-mail addy - is that any help for you?

593 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:18:57am

Huh, supposed to be 145 of us logged in - where is everyone this morning?

594 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:19:43am

re: #588 3 wood Hey there my friend - you've got mail!

595 3 wood  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:20:12am

re: #590 realwest

How is everyone this fine morning?

Still rung out from walking 18 in the heat and humididty yesterday.

How's the tooth doing?

596 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:20:48am

re: #590 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a hot (74 degrees going to 99 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

Good morning Realwest
I'm doing great..

597 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:21:08am

re: #595 3 wood
Still hoits! Check your mail and you'll understand better what it is I may be facing.

598 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:21:35am

re: #596 HoosierHoops
GLad to hear it - are you at work already?

599 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:21:52am

re: #588 3 wood

Congrats to Padraig Harrington for playing an outstanding round of golf yesterday to win his 2nd consecutive British open.

And good show to Greg Norman for coming back from a hip replacement, other injuries, and 7 years off from competitive golf to at age 53 come very close to winning the tournament. A couple bounces the other way here and there on Saturday and Norman would have been so far out in front that nobody could have caught him.

It would have been a great story if Norman would have won..
I was rooting for him.

600 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:21:55am

re: #590 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a hot (74 degrees going to 99 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

Fair to middling RW, hope you're doing well!

601 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:22:01am

re: #592 realwest

Thanks, Real. I'll try that.

602 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:22:41am

re: #598 realwest

GLad to hear it - are you at work already?

If you can call it work..then yes i am :)

603 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:23:49am

re: #600 CIA Reject
Well thanks my friend - I'm doing ok, but for this toothache and the damned heat we're supposed to be getting today - 99 degrees! Geez, you'd think I lived down South with that kind of..........oh, wait, I DO live down South.
Well crap, it's gonna be hot anyway!
How are you doing this morning?

604 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:24:20am

re: #589 Spenser (with an S)

Does anyone else have to keep two tabs of LGF open, one for the new comments and one to refresh the Linkviewer? I love linkviewer. I haven't been to Drudge once since that came on-line.

I keep spy open, sometimes linviewer, plus the current thread and previous thread open. Lotsa stuff going on here. . .

605 tfc3rid  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:25:07am

Morning all...

What with The Obama traveling the World learning about foreign pollicy and stuff and talkign with the commanders on the ground/meeting with foreign dignataries, why isn't he in violation of the Logan Act? I know, same as Pelosi, etc...

He isn't the President of the United States nor is his trip offically sanctioned on behalf of the Executive Branch?

BTW, the media fawning over it all is going to give him a huge bounce... Their coverage is disgraceful... I'm convinced now mroe than ever that this charlatan and snake oil salesman is going to be our next President... God help us all...

606 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:25:29am

re: #602 HoosierHoops
Whoa, I just clicked on your avatar in case you put into your personal profile what you do for a living and that avatar - those mountains - really jump out at ya! Beautiful!
So what do you do for work?

607 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:25:45am

re: #590 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a hot (74 degrees going to 99 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

Did anyone else see the news service article actually predicting heat waves with temps in Chicago reaching 115 F? Well, you have a little while to get your A/C ready, the prediction was for the year 2100(?!)

Seriously.

608 jorline  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:26:45am

Top of the morning to all.

Dolly is crossing the Yucatan and we're watching her closely.

609 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:29:32am
610 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:29:45am

re: #603 realwest

Well thanks my friend - I'm doing ok, but for this toothache and the damned heat we're supposed to be getting today - 99 degrees! Geez, you'd think I lived down South with that kind of..........oh, wait, I DO live down South.
Well crap, it's gonna be hot anyway!
How are you doing this morning?

Still dragging a bit and trying to get motivated. Sorry to hear about your toothache- Mrs. Reject has had terrible pain with recurring dental problems over the years so I can identify! Hope you're at least able to stay out of the heat- hot and with a toothache is really miserable!

611 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:31:17am

re: #607 Spenser (with an S),

They can't even predict the weather next week to any precise degree of accuracy, but they can predict heat waves in 2100? I'm impressed. The good news (for them) is that they are predicting far enough ou that most of the people reading their position will be dead.

That's slick.

612 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:32:26am

re: #605 tfc3rid
Good morning to ya - well this is a "fact finding mission" he's making with two other Senators - quick who are they? Don't know? Me either! - and it has been approved as such by the WH.
I don't think this trip is gonna burnish his image much - in fact yesterday he said something to the effect that he wanted to know more about the countries he's visiting so he'll be more effective for "the next 8, 10 years when he's president" LOL!
(that was posted with a link by #85 gmsc above)
and I think McCain ought to try to make hay out of the fact that Obama's over in countries where he's already done flip flops about policy while McCain is far more interested in staying here and trying to help Americans figure out how to pay for gas, mortgages, food - the things that Americans have always - except in time of Declared War - based their presidential votes for.
And geez, stop being so damn pessimistic my friend- hell Obama hasn't gotten the nomination yet and if he keeps up with his gaffes of the week or day, he may not get the nomination - superdelegates can decide who to vote for AT THE CONVENTION.
Hello Hillary!

613 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:32:31am

Good morning folks. How's everybody today? We took our 3 year old on his first camping trip this weekend: he loved it, of course. We saw deer & bunny rabbits in the early morning and fed a few thousand mosquitoes. A successful trip, I'd say.

614 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:32:52am

re: #606 realwest

Whoa, I just clicked on your avatar in case you put into your personal profile what you do for a living and that avatar - those mountains - really jump out at ya! Beautiful!
So what do you do for work?


LOL
That's the only picture I had on this computer under 32k..
I'm a System Admin for a large company out of Silicone Valley.
I work remotely. From the cornfields of America...

615 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:34:01am
616 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:34:51am

re: #609 taxfreekiller
Good morning my friend! I can't hardly believe you believe that false flag op. Really. Obama was born in Hawaii and is eligible to be POTUS - Pamela Gellers is just falling into the ambush, don't follow her down that same track my friend.

617 jorline  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:34:54am

Latest satalite photo of TS Dolly.

618 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:35:20am

re: #302 Irene NYC

No, I misread the article. Keeping praying for their survival!

Sorry, that downding was COMPLETE accident... i clicked to focus on this window and it happened to be on the [-] button! =(

Can someone please correct!?!?!?!?

619 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:35:53am

Morning Everyone, btw... how is it going?

620 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:36:16am

re: #611 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - how are you today? What's even slicker is that they predict for the year 2100 but get paid for that prediction THIS year! LOL!

621 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:37:38am

re: #618 rlevitin

Sorry, that downding was COMPLETE accident... i clicked to focus on this window and it happened to be on the [-] button! =(

Can someone please correct!?!?!?!?

Done. (made a similar mistake myself, last night)

622 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:37:42am
623 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:39:02am

re: #621 reine.de.tout

Thanks... much appreciated.

624 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:39:03am

re: #620 realwest,

Hey, man! I'm doing fine. How are you? I've got a bunch of Dr.s appointments tomorrow. I'm going to feel like you :-)

625 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:39:09am
626 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:40:18am

re: #615 buzzsawmonkey Hi buzz - no, I doubt it, but maybe one or both of the other Senators who are going with him will. So whatta ya think - if Barry gets elected is it gonna be for 8 or 10 years?! LOL!
Now we know why he wants a civilian defense force as large as our military and just as well equipped - that way, when the other 7 states he's found introduce an Amendment to the Constitution to allow him to run for more than two terms, he's got (he thinks) the military muscle to back up that amendment! LOL!

627 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:40:24am
628 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:41:51am

On the attack by approximately 200 Taliban on an American combat outpost in Kunar. First, Richard Fernandez comments:

...this was a tale whose ending the Taliban had hoped to write themselves. The entire purpose of the operation — what the Taliban hoped to achieve by their extraordinary exertion was probably not simply the death of 9 infidels — but press headlines saying ‘American unit massacred in Afghanistan’ or ‘Airborne outpost annihilated on the Pakistani border’. Had they succeeded in provoking those headlines the fight in Kunar would have become the focus of talking points in Congress, the subject of talk shows on the networks and speeches on the Presidential campaign trail. It was a story that many Taliban were undoubtedly prepared to give their lives to project. But they failed.

They failed because a new ending to the story was written at the last minute by the men of the 173rd Airborne. In the nature of the media coverage it will not necessarily be portrayed as a victory for US forces, but at least it won’t be trumpeted as a victory for the Taliban. What happened in Kunar was not only a saga of arms under desperate conditions but a defensive victory in the war of information. In many mosques and madrassas around the world people will notice that on an early morning in Afghanistan, the magic of 173rd Airborne was more puissant than that of Osama bin Laden.

And now a detailed report on the firefight, from Stars & Stripes"

Commander: Media reports on Afghanistan outpost battle were exaggerated

629 3 wood  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:41:59am

Sports Nerd Corner:

I have long said that the current crop of Pro's on the PGA can make so much money just finishing in the middle of the pack that most don't even try to win anymore. All you have to do is go to a few tornaments and pay attention to the driving range after Saturday's round. Other than a few stalwarts like Vijay Singh and Tiger Woods and f few rookies trying to keep their cards, the range will be empty as the rest of the field are already conceeding the tournament. Then on Sunday you can see guys laying up with irons and fairway woods all day to avoid possibly taking a big number and dropping from, say 15th palce to 20th place. They don't even try to compete and it really stinks. I've taken a lot of criticism for expressing that opinion.

Well, it looks like Jack Nicklaus agrees with me.

At Open, Nicklaus wonders if money has softened young golfers

Nicklaus' private jet arrived as 53-year-old Greg Norman was on his way to another round of even-par 70 to take a one-shot lead. Tom Watson, a 58-year-old with five claret jugs, opened with a 74 in the worst of the weather at Royal Birkdale, and 49-year-old Tom Lehman also had 74 in the first round.

As for the youth?

"If they don't win, they still walk home with a big check," Nicklaus said. "They don't have to do some of the things the Watsons had to do, the Normans, the Lehmans, and that's to gut it out. It doesn't mean the young guys will be out of it. It just makes it appear as though the guys who have had that experience are coming to the top."

and:

What worries him is whether easy money is making players work as hard as they should.

"Is that producing better golfers?" Nicklaus said, pausing and shrugging his shoulders. "I don't know. The question was asked because you see all the older guys, all guys who have had to gut it out in tough conditions. The kids today play perfect conditions every week. If they don't like what's going on, they're finishing 10th or 15th and still make a check.

"I don't think it makes them as tough."

Payne Stewart talked about this a year or two before he died. He realized that he had gotten comfortable just playing for 10th place and pocketing a big check every weekend, and had stopped even trying to win. So he made a decision to rededicate himself to be a champion.

Now that Tiger Woods is out for the year, and may never be quite the same player again, the PGA tour better start thinking long and hard about this situation. Otherwise, TV's will be clicking off on Sundays all over the viewing audience if these guys keep playing safe to protect a check. And then the tournament purses will start shrinking.

I would change the criterion for keeping their tour card from earnings to a points system based on winning or at least finishing near the top of some tournaments.

630 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:42:12am
631 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:42:48am

re: #616 realwest

Pamela has fallen for a few doozies, if I recall correctly.

632 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:44:07am

re: #622 taxfreekiller
Well as far as I know She only owns her own blog - you remember, the one that viciously, personally attacked Charles over the Counter-Jihadi conference in Brussels?
But Charles posted somewhere last night that he won't put any more links to this story in the spinoff links cause it's becoming like a conspiracy theory already and I gotta tell ya I agree with him.
Hey, did you know I'm a document expert too?!
No, really - ask Iron Fist he'll say I am!

633 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:44:47am
634 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:45:49am
635 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:46:07am
636 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:47:22am

re: #633 buzzsawmonkey

"if he is elected he will certainly be assassinated because America is such a racist nation"

Which only proves his bravery.

637 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:50:06am
638 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:50:15am

re: #633 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, it is interesting that Obama is so confident that he will be an at-least-two-term President, when I have heard quite the sprinkling of his supporters say that if he is elected he will certainly be assassinated because America is such a racist nation.

Of course America is racist! Didn't a leading US personality call Obama a N****r a few days ago?

639 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:50:37am

Group of kids from my church are in Port Sulphur, LA this week working. Just hit the "Dolly" link. Oooh.

640 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:51:13am
641 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:51:27am

re: #638 Kenneth

Of course America is racist! Didn't a leading US personality call Obama a N****r a few days ago?

But, he didn't mean it in a bad way.

642 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:52:01am

re: #628 Kenneth Morning Kenneth! What I didn't see mentioned in that Stars & Stripes article was that 55 Taliban were killed compared to 9 of our men - not that I don't grieve over losing 9 of our fine troops, but the Taliban can't sustain that kind of kill ratio and the real money quote, for me, from that article was:
"The small outpost had been built just days before the attack and consisted of protective wire and observation posts surrounding strategically placed vehicles. "That’s all it was, a series of vehicles that went out there," Preysler said."
No way the 173rd (a/k/a The Thundering Herd) gets overrun by anyone, much less the Taliban.
They used to be (and maybe still are) the only true Airborne Assault unit equipped to go to any place, any climate, any geography, as an entire combat brigade, with all support troops and equipment, in less than 48 hours. In Vietnam they were some of the toughest mofo's around and if the damned NVA couldn't overun them, the Taliban sure can't.

643 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:53:38am

re: #629 3 wood Hear, hear! Great post 3-wood!

644 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:53:53am

re: #609 taxfreekiller

So, whats up with this?

[Link: web.israelinsider.com...]

Barack Obams's birth cet. still in doubt?

NO, just the copy published by the daily KOokS.
Charles has asked that we avoid this subject for the time being. It is fact that Obambi was born in Hawaii. His mother was an american citizen by birth, Hawaii was a state. regardless of anything to do with his father he is an American citizen. Its possible there are some embarassig items on the certificate, his mom might have listed him as a citizen of Kenya, but the fact he is USA born makes him eligible even if a moonbat momma did something typical on his birth certificate.

For me, I'd like to see the real one just for shits and giggles.

645 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:55:28am

Good morning to the Lizard Nation. I hear there's a presidential campaign on its way.

So I decide to go see the Dark Night at my local cineplex, and find out all the showings are sold out until about midnight. So I tell my missus, okay, we'll see Sex in the City. But, it too is sold out (whew). So I say, okay we'll see Mama Mia. It's sold out (another whew). We end up seeing Journey to the Center of the Earth, in 3D. Wow. What fun! It's a real joyful, fun-packed adventure ride. Not much on the story angle, but so what?! I had a good time. She, however, didn't dig the 3D glasses -- made her a little sea-sick. And I say: Lizards. Enjoy life. Put on those 3-D glasses. Have some fun.

646 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:57:45am

re: #635 taxfreekiller
Funny, that blog doesn't have any indication of who that guy is, but it does contain the following:

"Disclaimers:
The owner of this blog is NOT affiliated in any way with the Hillary Clinton campaign
"

I'm telling you my friend, DO NOT walk down that trail, it's only a false flag op designed to waste our time on this whole stupid issue.

647 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:59:35am

re: #644 JeremyR Yep.

648 jorline  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:59:56am

re: #639 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Group of kids from my church are in Port Sulphur, LA this week working. Just hit the "Dolly" link. Oooh.

Morning FBV...they're safe in LA...Dolly is headed for northern Mexico or south Texas.

Some of my neighbors are boarding up...and family in Harlingen are preparing for a hit.

649 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:00:41am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that a NYC church let David Irving spew his hatred and venom and that they didn't realize who he was.

A cursory Google search would have revealed his true nature, and I figure they would have rejected his request for some space to discuss a book.

This isn't a matter of free speech, but rather a private group choosing to say no to rabid anti Semitism and revisionist history.

650 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:01:15am

re: #642 realwest

It's interesting to read that article and have the MSM memes contradicted:

1. Not a permanent base.
2. US position was not overrun

Also useful to learn, this particular battalion has done 9000+ patrols over the past 15 months, aggressively pursuing the Taliban-AQ. The US/NATO/ANA are not on the defensive, they are on the offensive. Casualty rates are up because we are aggressively taking the fight to the enemy.

Speaking of Af'stan, how's Obama's traveling unicorn show doing?

651 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:02:19am

re: #642 realwest

Morning Kenneth! What I didn't see mentioned in that Stars & Stripes article was that 55 Taliban were killed compared to 9 of our men - not that I don't grieve over losing 9 of our fine troops, but the Taliban can't sustain that kind of kill ratio and the real money quote, for me, from that article was:
"The small outpost had been built just days before the attack and consisted of protective wire and observation posts surrounding strategically placed vehicles. "That’s all it was, a series of vehicles that went out there," Preysler said."
No way the 173rd (a/k/a The Thundering Herd) gets overrun by anyone, much less the Taliban.
They used to be (and maybe still are) the only true Airborne Assault unit equipped to go to any place, any climate, any geography, as an entire combat brigade, with all support troops and equipment, in less than 48 hours. In Vietnam they were some of the toughest mofo's around and if the damned NVA couldn't overun them, the Taliban sure can't.

IN Vietnam they had commanders like Anthony Herbert. Todays COs are just as tough, just as mean, better equipped, and confident as hell. A little pride doesn't hurt either, and these guys have a ton of it.

652 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:02:51am
653 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:03:15am

Mornin' all. I may stop turning on the news in the morning. People are going mad. Mom doesn't report kid missing for a month? WTF? Somewhere in Fla.

654 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:03:32am

re: #637 taxfreekiller

One thing Obama can not forge or change, he is a f'n loon ass commie.

Actually, I'd call Obama a liberal fascist in the vein of Woodrow Wilson and the early 20th Century Progressives.

655 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:05:52am

re: #652 taxfreekiller

The birth cet. thingey has the look and smell of misdirection,

something else hides in the dust up.

Lawyers use long lies when a short truth would work just as well.


The birth certificate thing sounds too much like dumptser-diving, to me. I think Obama says plenty that ought to scare people away, and the other stuff (birth certificate, for example) is really just a waste of time. Let's debate his ideas and keep this campaign above sewer-level.

656 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:06:42am

re: #652 taxfreekiller

The birth cet. thingey has the look and smell of misdirection,

something else hides in the dust up.

Lawyers use long lies when a short truth would work just as well.

We need to be sniffing some other brush piles. No point in getting caught up in the forgery when a real one exists that makes it a moot point. Now the question is, which bush do we sniff?

657 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:07:09am

re: #648 jorline

Oh yeah, you're right. But I'm a betting that the "wussy" parents are having a conniption right now.

658 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:07:16am

A Little Feller In East Texas

Barack Obama is for banning all guns in America. He is considered by those who have dealt with him as a bit more than just a little self-righteous.

At a recent rural elementary school assembly in East Texas, he asked the audience for total quiet. Then, in the silence, he started to slowly clap his hands once every few seconds, holding the audience in total silence.

Then he said into the microphone, 'Children, every time I clap my hands together, a child in America dies from gun violence.'

Then, little Richard Earl, with a proud East Texas drawl, pierced the quiet and said: 'Well, dumb ass, stop clapping!'

Morning you all.

659 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:07:20am

re: #655 Golem Akbar

The birth certificate thing sounds too much like dumptser-diving, to me. I think Obama says plenty that ought to scare people away, and the other stuff (birth certificate, for example) is really just a waste of time. Let's debate his ideas and keep this campaign above sewer-level.

Agreed, but I'd say the whole certificate of live birth says far more about Markos Moulitsas Zuinga than it does about anyone or anything else.

Of course, we knew he was a filthy toad anyway, so what else is new and/or different?

660 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:07:28am

re: #650 Kenneth Well, according to some lizards out here, Obamessiah has been careful to be photographed mostly with Black American troops - why I don't know - and is, after having made the decision that we should invade Pakistan (you remember Pakistan, the ONLY DAMN ISLAMIC COUNTRY WITH NUKE'S AND MISSILES TO DELIVER 'EM) he's gonna meet with President Karzi today (or maybe yesterday - time differences and all that) to see what the President of Afghanistan thinks we should do.
I swear, Obama is not just too inexperienced, to unedcuated in world, much less American history, and has obviously surrounded himself with hacks and quacks for a staff, for Americans to elect him.

661 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:08:04am

Well, here's another shocking story about horrible prisoner abuse!

16 Afghan civilians held prisoner for 4 months, beaten, tortured & starved, no contact with Red Crescent, their Geneva Conventions rights totally violated. I guess the Western media is going to be outraged over this incident!

Oh wait... the Taliban did it & US troops rescued them.

Never mind. No story here...

662 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:08:07am
663 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:08:34am

re: #655 Golem Akbar

The birth certificate thing sounds too much like dumptser-diving, to me. I think Obama says plenty that ought to scare people away, and the other stuff (birth certificate, for example) is really just a waste of time. Let's debate his ideas and keep this campaign above sewer-level.

Um, his ideas are mostly sewer level, so no point debating them. debunking them is a better goal, show America what shit is.

664 opnion  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:08:50am

re: #575 yochanan

you got it can't stand her speaks out of both sides of her mouth


I found her annoying as an alderman. I heard her interviewed a couple of weeks ago on the radio. She wants Obama installed by "Divine Right."

665 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:09:01am

re: #653 pingjockey

Mornin' all. I may stop turning on the news in the morning. People are going mad. Mom doesn't report kid missing for a month? WTF? Somewhere in Fla.

Oh yeah? Should have seen the Mom's attorney this morning...says he knows where the baby is, won't even confirm that the child is ok. Slimeball.

People are not worse now, the MSM just reports every missing person in the country ad infinitum.

666 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:09:24am

re: #656 JeremyR

We need to be sniffing some other brush piles. No point in getting caught up in the forgery when a real one exists that makes it a moot point. Now the question is, which bush do we sniff?

Go for the ideas. That's the real jugular. Obama has weird, off-the-board ideas (no energy strategy, for example). He'll endanger the country. He'll throw Israel under the bus. Man, there's so much to not like about his ideas.

667 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:09:27am

re: #655 Golem Akbar
Correct. I think the damn issue(non-issue) is a red herring. There's no there, there! His minions can say ohh look the vrwc is calling him a non-citizen, aren't they evil. We need to focus on his total lack of any experience and socialist agenda, not a fake uproar about a birth cert. that was faked and put up on the intratubes for some reason.

668 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:10:39am

re: #663 JeremyR

Um, his ideas are mostly sewer level, so no point debating them. debunking them is a better goal, show America what shit is.

Well, we're saying the same thing. His proposed policies stink. If we only talk about the ideas, we're way ahead of the game.

669 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:11:57am

re: #665 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ah missed the lawyer. FNC had grandma on and she was spining like mad. Wouldn't answer questions at all. Got very heated.

670 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:12:08am

re: #658 newsjunkie_ky
Hey good morning to you! Actually, I think Obama's latest position is it's ok for Americans to own guns - unless he's changed his mind on that again.
It was one of the things, iirc, Kos himself took him out to the woodshed for ("FUCK OBAMA, FUCK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY") - Charles had a thread on it about 10 days or so ago - along with his flip-flop oon FISA and other matters near and dear to the "activist wing" of the Dem party.

BUT who knows - Kos could just be "fronting" for Obama - trying to help Obama move to the center to get the votes needed to win, KNOWING that Obama is a friggin' loonie communist anyway.

671 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:12:13am

re: #667 pingjockey

Correct. I think the damn issue(non-issue) is a red herring. There's no there, there! His minions can say ohh look the vrwc is calling him a non-citizen, aren't they evil. We need to focus on his total lack of any experience and socialist agenda, not a fake uproar about a birth cert. that was faked and put up on the intratubes for some reason.


Yes, I suspect the Kossites would love us to go chasing after that red-herring. I agree. His ideas are scary enough.

672 jorline  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:12:48am

re: #657 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh yeah, you're right. But I'm a betting that the "wussy" parents are having a conniption right now.

LOL...I hate this time of year...hurricanes are a pain in the ass!
I live 10 miles from the beach and I won't even think of boarding up until sometime late tomorrow and that's only if Dolly hits a Cat 3 or higher.

673 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:14:02am

re: #666 Golem Akbar

Go for the ideas. That's the real jugular. Obama has weird, off-the-board ideas (no energy strategy, for example). He'll endanger the country. He'll throw Israel under the bus. Man, there's so much to not like about his ideas.

We need to find the weaknesses in his ideas that simple minded folks (His supporters ) will understand. People are backing him because he is black, speaks well, and looks good. They are not listening to WHAT he says.

674 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:14:06am

re: #672 jorline

Eastern Carolinas are enjoying a long overdue soaking this morning. Ask them? Tropical Depressions Rock!

675 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:14:32am

re: #664 opnion Hey morning my friend! Uh, who want's Obama installed by "Divine Right."?
I'd like to install him with a Divine Left (hook) myself!

676 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:15:44am
677 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:15:58am

re: #670 realwest

Hey good morning to you! Actually, I think Obama's latest position is it's ok for Americans to own guns - unless he's changed his mind on that again.
It was one of the things, iirc, Kos himself took him out to the woodshed for ("FUCK OBAMA, FUCK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY") - Charles had a thread on it about 10 days or so ago - along with his flip-flop oon FISA and other matters near and dear to the "activist wing" of the Dem party.

BUT who knows - Kos could just be "fronting" for Obama - trying to help Obama move to the center to get the votes needed to win, KNOWING that Obama is a friggin' loonie communist anyway.


I wouldn't call him a commie, although many of his ideas are way-left. He does have proposals that would kill free-enterprise (taxes through the roof) and would stifle free speech (the Fairness Doctrine, for example), which ought to be enough to make any red-blooded American of any color or ethnicity run away. But I suggesdt we save the name-calling for the other side.

678 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:17:35am

re: #675 realwest

I think Obama's all about the Divine Left.

679 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:18:01am

re: #673 JeremyR

We need to find the weaknesses in his ideas that simple minded folks (His supporters ) will understand. People are backing him because he is black, speaks well, and looks good. They are not listening to WHAT he says.


He does look and sound great. I would vote for him -- would love to vote for a black, brown, or any color, actually -- if not for his leftist ideas. I'm an American, and I don't really believe in race. Ideas, yes, that's important to me.

680 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:18:12am

Well, off to play with a rental unit. My son wants a diffrent place, and he picked the one that needs the MOST work.
Have fun, be civil.

681 jorline  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:18:43am

re: #674 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Eastern Carolinas are enjoying a long overdue soaking this morning. Ask them? Tropical Depressions Rock!

I think that's what we'll get...plan for the day is to cut the grass, if we get 3-5 inches it'll be a jungle...lol

682 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:19:16am

re: #678 Wyatt Earp

I think Obama's all about the Divine Left.


The Jib-Jab cartoon says it all. Obama is a dvinity, riding a white mythic horse into a mythic, non-existent future. bs

683 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:19:19am
684 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:20:31am

Wow! Some lady on FNC her family was killed by an ILLEGAL alien in San Fran. Surprise, the progressives should be very proud of themselves. BTW, the illegal was a FELON. If you want to destroy our country vote progressive(donK) NOW!

685 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:21:04am

re: #683 taxfreekiller

Red diaper doper baby lawyer commie Democrat.

Obama is a thug commie, and if you do not call it out, the snake
will slip in and bite you on the ass one last time.

Commie sob Obama is.


I would hold off on the name-calling. Otherwise, yes, I agree. (name-calling is so-3rd grade/Kossie).

686 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:21:24am

re: #673 JeremyR

I wish people would stop saying he speaks well. I speak better off the cuff than he does, and I do not speak off the cuff very well. But at least attended Toastmasters and got rid of the "uh"s.

BARACK OBAMA HAS MASTERED THE TELEPROMPTER!

That is all.

687 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:22:16am
688 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:22:28am

re: #683 taxfreekiller

Speaking of which...anybody talked to Savage lately?

689 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:22:43am

re: #677 Golem Akbar Well you may be right, but I call 'em as I see 'em Golem and I think he IS a communist loon. Ya can't dispute the loon part - I mean, really 57 states, get elected POTUS for 8 to 10 years, complains about folks "attacking his wife" when HE sent her out to campaign for him? Rev. Wright, Rev Pflelger, Billy Boy Ayers and his oh so charming wife, Bernadine Dohrn - convicted for attempted murder and had sentence commuted by slick Bill Clinton, hold LAVISH fund raiser for Obama in Ayer's lavish townhome in Chicago? The list goes on and on Golem. If you disagree with the "communist" part fine, but you can't seriously argue he's not a loon! Or at least an undereducated buffoon.

690 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:22:56am

re: #569 3 wood

re: #569 3 wood

I think those "stray bullets" just need to be adopted and given good homes. Oh, and don't forget to spay or neuter them.

691 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:23:01am

re: #685 Golem Akbar
How about "progressive"? I can make that sound like an insult. Or liberal? Which is totally wrong, obambi and his ilk are not liberal in the classic use of the word.

692 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:23:22am

re: #686 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wish people would stop saying he speaks well. I speak better off the cuff than he does, and I do not speak off the cuff very well. But at least attended Toastmasters and got rid of the "uh"s.

BARACK OBAMA HAS MASTERED THE TELEPROMPTER!

That is all.


Maybe so. He is a media construct. But when he speaks on cue, he speaks very well. Not too fast on his feet when the teleprompter is off, however.

693 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:24:32am

Did America or al Qaeda Fall into a Trap in Iraq?

...for a while the jihadists did think they could carve out a base in Iraq from which to destabilize the region. However, I might add that these "jihadists" were the foot soldiers of none other than Osama bin Laden's global terrorist organization known as al Qaeda. I might further add that al Qaeda concentrated virtually all of its efforts in winning the war in Iraq, that in so doing it sacrificed its once vaunted reputation throughout the Muslim world because of the nearly successful tactic it used (namely, using suicide bombers to slaughter innocent Shiites), and that the victory that was nearly at hand for al Qaeda in January of 2007 (when Bush ordered the troop surge and Obama wanted to withdraw our troops) is gone forever. In other words, America is not "fighting its way out of the worst of the troubles it created for itself," as if our troops are successfully retreating under fire. Instead, America is crushing al Qaeda's full-on response to our invasion of Iraq.

694 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:24:33am

re: #686 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wish people would stop saying he speaks well. I speak better off the cuff than he does, and I do not speak off the cuff very well. But at least attended Toastmasters and got rid of the "uh"s.

BARACK OBAMA HAS MASTERED THE TELEPROMPTER!

That is all.

...and he'll faithfully recite ANYTHING that is displayed on it. I see an opportunity here - we need to hack into his teleprompter and alter the script!

The possibilities are limitless!

695 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:24:44am

re: #678 Wyatt Earp
Hey Wyatt - ain't nothing "Divine" about the left in our country. At least not the far left anyway.
Nor the Far right for that matter.

696 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:25:15am
697 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:25:50am

re: #689 realwest

Well you may be right, but I call 'em as I see 'em Golem and I think he IS a communist loon. Ya can't dispute the loon part - I mean, really 57 states, get elected POTUS for 8 to 10 years, complains about folks "attacking his wife" when HE sent her out to campaign for him? Rev. Wright, Rev Pflelger, Billy Boy Ayers and his oh so charming wife, Bernadine Dohrn - convicted for attempted murder and had sentence commuted by slick Bill Clinton, hold LAVISH fund raiser for Obama in Ayer's lavish townhome in Chicago? The list goes on and on Golem. If you disagree with the "communist" part fine, but you can't seriously argue he's not a loon! Or at least an undereducated buffoon.


No, no, I agree with you 100%. I would just advise not to resort to name calling. It won't help your/our cause, any. It puts some people off, people who might consider what you are saying, otherwise.

698 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:26:18am

re: #674 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Eastern Carolinas are enjoying a long overdue soaking this morning. Ask them? Tropical Depressions Rock!

I miss the Carolina coast. I spent most of my childhood there.
Everytime I watch "Forest Gump" I get misty eyed over the shrimp boat scenes. (Gump was supposed to be in Alabama, but it was filmed in South Carolina.)

699 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:26:30am

re: #681 jorline Hey jorline - CtP said that they got damn near 4" of rain his way on Saturday/Sunday so get them sandbags ready! LOL!
Some wag - maybe CtP - said he saw a turtle swimming down his street!

700 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:26:46am

re: #695 realwest

I know. He thinks he's Divine, and he thinks his party is so as well.

701 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:28:05am

re: #694 CIA Reject

...and he'll faithfully recite ANYTHING that is displayed on it. I see an opportunity here - we need to hack into his teleprompter and alter the script!

The possibilities are limitless!

"Go F*&k yourself San Diego"...

Ron Burgundy.

702 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:28:19am

re: #700 Wyatt Earp

I know. He thinks he's Divine, and he thinks his party is so as well.


I love the way the media shows him. Especially with all the halos. Obamessiah. The tingly legs. Obamasm.

703 Pyrocles  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:29:09am

Well, McCain is going to be attending private fundraisers here in Buffalo today. Of course, our local NPR affiliate has to mention when and where the "anti-war/social justice" protesters are meeting to protest against McCain. Almost like an advertisement. /sigh

McCain is expected to make more money today in Buffalo than any previous presidential candidate has ever made here, at least.

704 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:29:20am

re: #693 Kenneth

Did America or al Qaeda Fall into a Trap in Iraq?

"...America is crushing al Qaeda's full-on response to our invasion of Iraq."


Which, IMHO is the very reason the US went into Iraq to begin with - to bring the fight to al qaeda and destroy it.

705 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:30:09am
706 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:30:49am

Iranian boats in threat to Devonport warship

IRANIAN Revolutionary Guard speedboats menaced the Devonport-based warship HMS Chatham as weapons tests ordered by the Tehran regime to deter strikes on its nuclear weapons facilities raised tension in the Gulf, it can be revealed.

The encounter occurred as the Type-22 frigate patrolled the same waters where sister ship HMS Cornwall suffered the kidnapping and detention of 15 of her sailors and Marines in spring 2007.

Some 16 months on, Westcountry servicemen and women are still going eyeball-to-eyeball with the Revolutionary Guards on an almost daily basis. In last week's incident, Iranian speedboats came within a few hundred yards of the frigate as the latter patrolled on the edge of Iraqi territorial waters.

707 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:31:34am

re: #704 CIA Reject

Which, IMHO is the very reason the US went into Iraq to begin with - to bring the fight to al qaeda and destroy it.

Let's not forget America's comittment to bring democracy anywhere it can, as well. We went into Iraq to offer an alternative to fascism. Destroy al Qaeda and give something worthwhile, in exchange.

708 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:32:56am

re: #697 Golem Akbar
Well, with all due respect my friend, if "name calling" - even though those names are accurate - puts some people off, tough luck.
Somebody out here once suggested that if we get rid of the "religious right folks" on LGF we can maybe attract the moderate moonbats. What the hell is the point of attracting ANY moonbats, moderate or otherwise?
The truth is the truth and sometimes coarse language is the best way to convey that to some people.
There isn't anything about Obama I've said that isn't true and verifiable (except, maybe, the communist part) and if folks don't want to hear the unvarinished plain truth about him and his dear friends, "spiritual advisor" and associates, I'm sorry about that.

709 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:33:02am

Location, location, location

Having been rebuffed in its request to let Barack Obama speak in front of the Brandenburg Gate, the Obama campaign scheduled his speech for a site selected by Adolph Hitler for a memorial to German victories over our actual "traditional" allies.

Force yourselves, if you can, to imagine what the American press would say if a Republican chose such a site.

Quite.

710 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:33:53am

re: #702 Golem Akbar

"Obamasm." That's awesome!

711 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:34:07am

Someone else to throw on my "obituaries I hope to read soon" list.

Man beats [4-year old daughter] into coma in Rome
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

A four-year-old French girl is in a critical condition after her father was found beating her head against a monument in Rome, officials say.

The man was restrained by passers-by and a traffic officer, but not before he had smashed his daughter's head so badly that she slipped into a coma.
...

712 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:34:50am
713 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:35:28am

re: #635 taxfreekiller

"Techdude" googles.

Who/What is TexasDarlin?

[Link: texasdarlin.wordpress.com...]

She's one of those "PUMA" gals. They don't like the Obamahdi and are still pushing for the Hildebeast.

"Cougars" for Hillary! LOL!

One thing I will say is that the MSM has almost completely buried this story-they don't want anyone to interrupt their fantasy of a Demo party completely enthralled by, as you so insightfully call it, the "O'Cult".

714 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:35:29am

re: #696 taxfreekiller
Mornin' tfk, hey don't hold back, tell us how you really feel about this fakir! :)

715 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:35:48am

re: #707 Golem Akbar

Let's not forget America's comittment to bring democracy anywhere it can, as well. We went into Iraq to offer an alternative to fascism. Destroy al Qaeda and give something worthwhile, in exchange.

I tend to think of that as "burning the snake's body after killing it" - establishing democracy will insure that islamic fascism won't re-emerge in the region.

716 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:35:55am

re: #702 Golem Akbar

I love the way the media shows him. Especially with all the halos. Obamessiah. The tingly legs. Obamasm.

Obamasm: happens shortly after having an Oboner.

717 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:38:13am

re: #705 taxfreekiller

Myself I gaze over nice long bull shit comments on how to be nice to f'n commie loons, and how you have to kiss ass to get votes, thats how we got this McLame RINO sell out we have to drag over the finish line against a complete loon total fool with not a brain in his head, if we had talked and acted like real Americans we would not be up shit creek without a paddle like we are now.


You know I didn't say that. I say we stop the name-calling, because it puts too many people off. But we ought to be constantly pointing out what Obama is saying, and that he is going to weaken the country with his policies. Don't be nice, but name-calling will put off some folks who might otherwise agree with you.

718 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:39:02am

Bob Beckel is an asshat.

719 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:39:02am

For those of us who don't watch TV.....
Media frenzy over Obama

720 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:39:38am
721 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:39:57am

re: #716 bosforus

Obamasm: happens shortly after having an Oboner.

And the Obamasm is always premature.

722 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:40:19am

re: #719 Killgore Trout
Ain't gonna look. Managed to go all weekend w/o seeing any bs press coverage of the empty suits trip.

723 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:41:02am

re: #719 Killgore Trout

For those of us who don't watch TV.....
Media frenzy over Obama

Heard enough of it on the radio this morning, changed the channel when it came on the TV before that.

724 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:41:06am

re: #706 Kenneth Great post and link, again this morning! But, again, the money quote from your link:

"Until today, the Chatham and Stuart incidents were unreported.
Often the Iranians deliberately trespass in Iraqi territorial waters to taunt the coalition naval units visually while largely ignoring attempts to establish radio communications.
“There are misunderstandings between ourselves and, whenever they occur, we aim to communicate with the Revolutionary Guards to clarify the situation,” revealed one British naval officer in the northern Gulf. “Unfortunately nine times out of 10 they ignore us.”
When the Revolutionary Guard Corps do respond, it is often to tell coalition naval forces to “stick it”."
Don't know why we put up with this; if someone in an armed boat approaches one of the Coalition ships in international waters, and does so agressively, I'd think if one of the close in support weapons (ACRIS or Aegus 30 mm chain gun, not being Navy type I forget what they are called) were to fire a burst or two, that stuff would stop.
Bully's are bully's wherever you find 'em and there is only one way to stop someone from bullying you - make it clear to them that they'll get at least a bloody nose if they continue to attempt to bully you.

725 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:41:30am

re: #718 pingjockey,

Don't sugar coat it. Say what you mean :-)

726 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:43:27am

re: #686 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You can actually work to eliminate all the uhs, ahs, umms, and other extraneous fillers (words that include "like") that people use when trying to formulate what they want to say. You have to consciously work on it, but it is a skill that can be learned. Some folks never bother. Of course, when you don't include those fillers, it sounds like a canned response, so you can never win either way.

727 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:44:30am

re: #725 Iron Fist
Ok. He is the crud I wipe off the bottom of my boot after mucking out a barn. The gunk found under the rim of a toilet. I could go "own and own".

728 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:45:39am

re: #724 realwest

Seems reasonable to me: next time the speedboats swarm around the battleship should sink them. The IRRG's will think twice before trying that again. I guess we just don't understand this high level stratergizing & diplomessy stuff.

729 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:45:48am

re: #719 Killgore Trout

For those of us who don't watch TV.....
Media frenzy over Obama


Since Obama is only offering to change what Bush has done by replacing the Bush team with the Clinton and Carter re-runs, the media is not that deep-thinking. Their legs tingle, but their brains are mush -- kind of like a teen-age boy in the presence of a teen-age girl [and I ought to know -- I was that teen-age boy].

730 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:46:11am
731 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:46:42am

re: #670 realwest

Hey good morning to you! Actually, I think Obama's latest position is it's ok for Americans to own guns - unless he's changed his mind on that again.

LOL!

Just wait until he gets in office and appoints supreme court justices.

Look at his record.

732 jorline  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:46:58am

re: #699 realwest

Hey jorline - CtP said that they got damn near 4" of rain his way on Saturday/Sunday so get them sandbags ready! LOL!
Some wag - maybe CtP - said he saw a turtle swimming down his street!

Good morning, RW...hope you're well and looking forward to tomorrows appointment on your tooth.

LMAO on the turtle...I'm putting up perches on my fence post should Dolly come this way. I'm waiting for the 11 report from the hurricane center. They're now saying that Dolly is further north than earlier predictions and think it will impact the Texas coast and my reach a Cat 3 or 4...not good news. I live in Corpus Christi and ten miles from the beach.

Funny story...last storm a salt water tributary by my house flooded the only bridge into town...the water was only 1 to 2 feet deep on the bridge, but red-fish and trout were swimming on the bridge...people had fetched their nets to catch them and filled their freezers with a lot of good eating fish...lol

733 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:46:58am

Aussie Twoofers!

The Bali Bombings were an inside job!

Of course, why didn't I think of that?

734 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:47:34am

re: #730 taxfreekiller

Beckel is an ass who needs a new hat.

Or just go to Laura Ingram .com and buy him a butmonkey too.

Listening to Laura right now. She's talking about the breathless media coverage of the Obamahdi's overseas trip.

735 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:48:05am

re: #713 Colonel Panik Indeed, see my #646!

736 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:48:19am

re: #721 Honorary Yooper

And the Obamasm is always premature.

And unfortunately America hasn't taken its pill recently.

737 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:48:20am
738 vxbush  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:49:03am

Hey folks. Crazy Monday today. I'm at home, working, because my building has no power. But I'm only working until noon, and then my delightful husband gets to go under anesthesia while they take care of his kidneystone. As he puts it, the salad spoons are going in the wrong place but they'll take care of it.

739 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:49:14am

re: #729 Golem Akbar

And it's entertaining to watch the Democrats fall over themselves complaining bitterly about the "oil men in the White House" and their energy policy, versus the one that they want, which is a rehashed Carter policy that would further restrict energy production domestically, and which in part led to Reagan being elected. Malaise doesn't do the American people well, because we're a generally optimistic bunch - a trait that seems to annoy lots of folks - mostly European intellectuals.

740 opnion  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:49:56am

re: #675 realwest

Hey morning my friend! Uh, who want's Obama installed by "Divine Right."?
I'd like to install him with a Divine Left (hook) myself!

Hi Real, How's the tooth?
I do like the eloquence of the way that you would greet Obama.

741 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:50:16am

re: #739 lawhawk
And elitist donks!

742 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:50:50am

So Fauxbama's gone to Europe to gin up the impression that he has adequate foreign policy credentials, not having had any to speak of before his private donors made this trip possible. This will only fool the fools. Fauxbama hasn't demonstrated sufficient knowledge of world geography, world history, let alone geopolitics and the world economy.

But he has a large cheering section.

re: #719 Killgore Trout

KT, Fauxbama was about the only US news story in England last week. The Brits I talked to assumed he was going to win by a landslide. When I pointed out the gaping holes in his credentials, they were surprised, having heard nothing about them.

743 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:51:20am
744 BBev  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:51:27am

Good mornin all, we will see how well Obma speaks if he ever has the balls to debate McCain!

745 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:52:28am

re: #742 godfrey

The Brits I talked to assumed he was going to win by a landslide.


They might be right. It's getting spooky.

746 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:52:29am

re: #743 taxfreekiller
I think the correct term is ijits, as grampa used to call them.

747 Dolphin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:53:12am

re: #719 Killgore Trout

For those of us who don't watch TV.....
Media frenzy over Obama

From your link @ 0:48.

“Throwing an even brighter spotlight on Baracks excellent adventure

MSM Idiots (oxymoron). I too managed to avoid it all weekend, but could resist the link.

/I am a putz.

748 opnion  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:54:13am

re: #744 BBev
.

Good mornin all, we will see how well Obma speaks if he ever has the balls to debate McCain!


He will debate, if the polls show that he needs them.
His people are smart to keep him on script. He is a mumbling doofus off of script.

749 Vergeltung  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:54:38am

sorry if it's been posted already, but there was an apparent honor killing in pakistan. dead 19 year old Christian boy. He had the nerve to court a muslin girl....

[Link: www.bosnewslife.com...]

750 BBev  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:54:48am

re: #719 Killgore Trout

For those of us who don't watch TV.....
Media frenzy over Obama

I don’t care to even watch him it’s all a dog and pony show. Remember the masses are asses.

751 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:55:10am

re: #720 Kenneth again, the money quote:

"The Hezbollah Brigades began uploading videos of attacks on US and Iraqi forces this year.

The group has claimed responsibility for the July 8 Improvised Rocket Assisted Mortar attack on Joint Security Station Ur in Sadr City [see video]. One US soldier and one interpreter were wounded after eight of the makeshift flying IEDs detonated near the outpost. Shia terror groups have launched a handful of IRAM attacks on US and Iraqi outposts in Baghdad.
[Link: www.longwarjournal.org...] [emphasis added, realwest]

You know there was a time when folks who'd try to kill US Armed Forces troops would be at least "Spanked" for it; I reckon that all stopped with the Marine Corp barracks bombing in Lebannon, followed by Somalia and the rest. I'm not a warmonger and in fact, as is true for most combat veterans I HATE war, but there are times when a Nation must take strong Military Action to protect it's own citizens. I don't know where we went off the rails on this, but sure as hell wish we'd find our way back.
Those Iranian "gunboats" would be a start.

752 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:55:28am

Oh, TFK, you might find this interesting. The Apache in AZ are trying to build a dam on the rez so they have water for their farms. They've been fighting with Salt River Project and the State of AZ for years over this and everyone has finally reached an agreement but now the enviros are upset over some minnow.

753 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:55:32am

re: #745 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the media is continuing to pile on. Turn off the TV for the world to come back into focus. It is creepy, though.

754 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:55:39am

re: #744 BBev

Good mornin all, we will see how well Obma speaks if he ever has the balls to debate McCain!

We know how well/poorly Obama speaks w/ out the teleprompter. He's afraid of debating McCain in a town hall setting because he knows that both dems and reps will be watching at the same time. He doesn't want to be embarrassed in front of republicans.

755 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:55:48am
756 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:56:28am

re: #737 taxfreekiller

I like to refer to him as Mugabe Lite™ - Same socialist taste, less filling!

757 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:56:56am

re: #745 Killgore Trout

They might be right. It's getting spooky.

I'm not quite so sure. Obama's polling is in a statistical dead heat with McCain (42% to 41%), and McCain is doing better among Republicans than Obama is doing among Democrats.

758 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:57:06am

re: #739 lawhawk

And it's entertaining to watch the Democrats fall over themselves complaining bitterly about the "oil men in the White House" and their energy policy, versus the one that they want, which is a rehashed Carter policy that would further restrict energy production domestically, and which in part led to Reagan being elected. Malaise doesn't do the American people well, because we're a generally optimistic bunch - a trait that seems to annoy lots of folks - mostly European intellectuals.


Well said. My illustrious mayor, Antonio Villaraigosa (Los Angeleeze), came back from campaining for Obama and declared that we should not use foreign oil, and that we should not use domestic oil! And no to nukes, too. We should use wind and solar only. IJIT.

759 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:57:07am

re: #706 Kenneth

Everything is upside down here. The Iranians should be afraid of provoking a fight with Western Nations, and they are not.

Relying on the talk-talk component of Diplomacy is only useful if the enemy believes that you could-would resort to war-war at some point.

Worse, if these incursions are happening in Iraq waters, the US should have its fleet in place and sink the trespasser.

760 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:57:08am

re: #744 BBev

Good mornin all, we will see how well Obma speaks if he ever has the balls to debate McCain!

I think he'll have to get 'em back from Jesse Jackson...

761 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:57:20am

This is hilarious!

In the latest development on Obama's Flying Unicorn Tour, Obama will hold a news conference outside #10 Downing Street. But without the unpopular British PM, Gordon Brown. Obama doesn't want to tarnish his halo, I guess.

762 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:57:46am

re: #751 realwest

You know there was a time when folks who'd try to kill US Armed Forces troops would be at least "Spanked" for it; I reckon that all stopped with the Marine Corp barracks bombing in Lebannon, followed by Somalia and the rest. I'm not a warmonger and in fact, as is true for most combat veterans I HATE war, but there are times when a Nation must take strong Military Action to protect it's own citizens. I don't know where we went off the rails on this, but sure as hell wish we'd find our way back.
Those Iranian "gunboats" would be a start.

+1

763 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:58:48am
764 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:58:49am

Iran Liberty Association

Did LGF cover the Iranian missile attack on Ashraf City in Iraq earlier in July?

765 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:58:53am

re: #758 Golem Akbar

Well said. My illustrious mayor, Antonio Villaraigosa (Los Angeleeze), came back from campaining for Obama and declared that we should not use foreign oil, and that we should not use domestic oil! And no to nukes, too. We should use wind and solar only. IJIT.

Yeah and I bet he keeps the air-conditioner in his house and office off always. What a putz!

766 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:59:12am

re: #751 realwest

US forces are going hard after these Iranian backed militias in Iraq. Unfortunately, they aren't going after the head of the snake.

767 BBev  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:00:13am

re: #755 taxfreekiller

If McCain does not watch out the msm will do an ambush for Obama in any debate, they will throw the match, trick the questions, put Obama up higher, they will mess with McCains mic, they will show his bad cheek, they will ask him about things not true, any debate he agrees to he had better be very careful cause the only way this little snake commie lawyer will get near him is in a rigged fixed fight the Chicago mob has him the winner the day before by 100 to 1 odds.


That is my fear but they must debate.

768 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:00:29am

re: #757 Honorary Yooper

I'm not quite so sure. Obama's polling is in a statistical dead heat with McCain (42% to 41%), and McCain is doing better among Republicans than Obama is doing among Democrats.


I know quite a few dems that are NOT voting for obama.

769 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:00:54am

re: #757 Honorary Yooper
It's the electoral collage that counts.....
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll

The Rasmussen Reports Balance of Power Calculator shows now Obama leading in states with 210 Electoral College votes while McCain leads in states with 168 votes. When leaners are included, it’s Obama 293, McCain 227.

But I'm wondering if the MSM is going to burn people out on Obama coverage.....

A growing percentage of voters also believe that most reporters are trying to help Obama win the election. Forty-nine percent (49%) hold that view while only 14% believe reporters are trying to help McCain. Other data shows that voters tend to think reporters are trying to make both the economy and Iraq seem worse than they really are.
770 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:00:59am

re: #728 Kenneth Well clearly I don't! And no I'm not talking about Golem's chastising me for my language either.
It seems simple to me: you shoot my guys, I shoot even more of your guys. You threaten our ships, we sink yours.
Course, I haven't (obviously) received any diplomatic training, but I do know what works in that field of endeavor.
And I'd appreciate it a LOT if any of y'all could explain to me the value of a "proportionate response" - seems to me a disproportionate response would yeild better results.

771 David Simon  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:01:17am

The income tax paradox:

The idea that (income tax cuts have) been a giveaway to the rich is a figment of the left's imagination. Taxes paid by millionaire households more than doubled to $274 billion in 2006 from $136 billion in 2003. No President has ever plied more money from the rich than George W. Bush did with his 2003 tax cuts. These tax payments from the rich explain the very rapid reduction in the budget deficit to 1.9% of GDP in 2006 from 3.5% in 2003.

This year, thanks to the credit mess and slower growth, taxes paid by the rich may fall and the deficit will rise. (The nonstimulating tax rebates will also hurt the deficit.) Mr. Obama proposes to close this deficit by raising tax rates on the rich to their highest levels since the late 1970s. The very groups like the Congressional Budget Office and Tax Policy Center that wrongly predicted that the 2003 investment tax cuts would cost about $1 trillion in lost revenue are now saying that repealing those tax cuts would gain similar amounts. We'll wager it'd gain a lot less.

If Mr. Obama does succeed in raising tax rates on the rich, we'd also wager that the rich share of tax payments would fall. The last time tax rates were as high as the Senator wants them -- the Carter years -- the rich paid only 19% of all income taxes, half of the 40% share they pay today.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

What the op-ed doesn't mention is that as more and more people are excused from paying federal income tax, the more likely it is that vote-whoring politicians will keep promising us more and more "free" programs.

772 Vergeltung  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:01:31am

re: #708 realwest

get rid of the "religious right folks" on LGF we can maybe

some of that has happened by attrition already IMO, by virtue of the ID threads and the Pope visit threads.

773 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:01:59am
774 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:02:42am

re: #726 lawhawk

Heck of a point.

775 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:03:08am

re: #765 Nevergiveup

Yeah and I bet he keeps the air-conditioner in his house and office off always. What a putz!


He drives a large SUV, as does a lot of his staff. He flies first-class. He is a putz first-class.

776 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:03:29am

re: #770 realwest
Damn straight. Totally disproportionate response. You buzz our cruiser, throw threats around, we put a Harpoon or TLAM into your base and take out those subs you bought from the Russians. You toss a mortar round, we run an Arc Light strike on your ass.

777 BBev  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:03:35am

re: #760 CIA Reject

I think he'll have to get 'em back from Jesse Jackson...

Thats to good.

778 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:03:55am

re: #738 vxbush
GACK! Gee {vxbush} I sure wish your husband all the best with that - kidneystones are best fixed promptly, like I wish my tooth (teeth?) had been!
Seriously, all the best wishes and prayers for him and for you.

779 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:04:42am

re: #767 BBev

How is McCain off-script? He actually has brains and experience, so I'm guessing he'll handle himself well. Obama will just have platitudes and talking points, which a person with extemp ability will be able to poke full of holes. Sure, the media will do everything to make McCain look like Nixon, but what they're forgetting is that Kennedy actually had some smarts. I don't think Obama will be able to handle the extemp pressure.

780 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:04:51am

re: #660 realwest

Well, according to some lizards out here, Obamessiah has been careful to be photographed mostly with Black American troops - why I don't know - and is, after having made the decision that we should invade Pakistan "Pockyston" (you remember Pakistan "Pockyston" , the ONLY DAMN ISLAMIC COUNTRY WITH NUKE'S AND MISSILES TO DELIVER 'EM) he's gonna meet with President Karzi today (or maybe yesterday - time differences and all that) to see what the President of Afghanistan thinks we should do.

Fixed it for you.

"Pockyston"...we must invade it to secure our vital supplies of "Pocky"

781 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:05:41am

re: #742 godfrey
Hey godfrey! Is Obama deigning to speak to the European press yet? Last I read (out here) was that the German media were really p.o.'d about his not speaking to them.

782 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:05:42am

re: #770 realwest

Well clearly I don't! And no I'm not talking about Golem's chastising me for my language either.
It seems simple to me: you shoot my guys, I shoot even more of your guys. You threaten our ships, we sink yours.
Course, I haven't (obviously) received any diplomatic training, but I do know what works in that field of endeavor.
And I'd appreciate it a LOT if any of y'all could explain to me the value of a "proportionate response" - seems to me a disproportionate response would yeild better results.


Now that makes good sense. That may be one reason why al Qaeda has backed off in Iraq.

783 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:06:50am

re: #768 newsjunkie_ky

Me, too. And all the hard-left guys I know are totally rattled by Obama's attempt to seize the center. They're scared. I think they'll stay home.

784 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:07:22am

I'd like Gen. Petraeus to tell obambi, "sorry,can't help with your briefing. You don't have the correct security clearance".

785 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:07:37am

re: #769 Killgore Trout

However, some of the states listed as "leaning Dem" are states that have large percentages of people Obama has offended, states such as Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

One must remember that a lot of people don't answer polls, and sometimes give misleading information to pollsters. In addition, in 2000, Gore was leading in the polls, and in 2004, Kerry was leading in the polls. I suspect the polls trend Dem. Given the historical polls in 2000 and 2004, I suspect that McCain may even be leading at this point.

786 David Simon  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:07:49am

re: #768 newsjunkie_ky

I know quite a few dems that are NOT voting for obama.

And I know a few "republicans" who are. The winner for the most dumbass comment yet is my next door neighbor (voted for Bush twice): "We're going to have to put up with Obama for four years so that we can get the economy back on track." I kid you not.

787 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:08:08am

re: #783 godfrey

Me, too. And all the hard-left guys I know are totally rattled by Obama's attempt to seize the center. They're scared. I think they'll stay home.

Just let them know that you think their doing the right thing by staying home. I mean after all, principals are so important!

788 BBev  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:08:41am

re: #770 realwest

Well clearly I don't! And no I'm not talking about Golem's chastising me for my language either.
It seems simple to me: you shoot my guys, I shoot even more of your guys. You threaten our ships, we sink yours.
Course, I haven't (obviously) received any diplomatic training, but I do know what works in that field of endeavor.
And I'd appreciate it a LOT if any of y'all could explain to me the value of a "proportionate response" - seems to me a disproportionate response would yeild better results.

I agree with that. You put one of our guys in the hospital we put one of yours in the morgue.

789 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:08:52am

re: #784 pingjockey

Hey, someone let me know...

If a regular schmo...without security clearance was running for POTUS, and was the frontrunner, would he be briefed?

790 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:08:54am

re: #770 realwest

I would think the strategy would vary depending on the adversary and location. If you are going eye to eye with the Russians or the Chinese, you might decide to de-escalate and hold your fire. Not because you fear them, but because the geo-political situation is so much more complex, and you don't want a ship's captain deciding US foreign policy.

But when it comes to Iran, the situation is much simpler and more direct. The CiC & the Commmander of Central Command must have worked up a response to this sort of thing. They must have decided now is not the time to take it to the next level. Why? Maybe they want to use that option at a more useful time, like when they're ready to bomb Iran...

791 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:09:02am

re: #786 David Simon

And I know a few "republicans" who are. The winner for the most dumbass comment yet is my next door neighbor (voted for Bush twice): "We're going to have to put up with Obama for four years so that we can get the economy back on track." I kid you not.

For why? So Obama can fuck up the economy so much another Reagan has to set it right?

792 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:09:03am

re: #785 Honorary Yooper
Most polls. IIRC are tilted heavily left. The sampling data is ridiculously skewed.

793 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:09:14am

re: #781 realwest

I don't know, realwest. I came home yesterday and am still fuzzy from lag.

794 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:09:23am

re: #784 pingjockey

I'd like Gen. Petraeus to tell obambi, "sorry,can't help with your briefing. You don't have the correct security clearance".

Do Senators have "Top Secret or Secret" Clearance?

795 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:10:02am

re: #757 Honorary Yooper " McCain is doing better among Republicans than Obama is doing among Democrats." Really? That's good news! And I do think it's a tad early - especially given the way the Obamessiah tends to try to eat his foot every other day, to get too worried about the election NOW.

Remember the polls ON ELECTION DAY in 2004 had Kerry winning - some polls saying in a "landslide"?

796 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:10:12am

re: #784 pingjockey

I'd like Gen. Petraeus to tell obambi, "sorry,can't help with your briefing. You don't have the correct security clearance".


I'd like Obama to meet with Petraeus and start sounding a lot like Bush. Now that would really get the left's goat. heh

797 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:10:19am

re: #779 godfrey

How is McCain off-script? He actually has brains and experience, so I'm guessing he'll handle himself well. Obama will just have platitudes and talking points, which a person with extemp ability will be able to poke full of holes. Sure, the media will do everything to make McCain look like Nixon, but what they're forgetting is that Kennedy actually had some smarts. I don't think Obama will be able to handle the extemp pressure.

This is one area where I feel positive about this election. McCain is a master of the sardonic quip.

798 BBev  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:10:32am

re: #779 godfrey

How is McCain off-script? He actually has brains and experience, so I'm guessing he'll handle himself well. Obama will just have platitudes and talking points, which a person with extemp ability will be able to poke full of holes. Sure, the media will do everything to make McCain look like Nixon, but what they're forgetting is that Kennedy actually had some smarts. I don't think Obama will be able to handle the extemp pressure.

I agree and I think the American people will see through Osama in the spot light of a debate.

799 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:10:48am

re: #784 pingjockey

I'd like Gen. Petraeus to tell obambi, "sorry,can't help with your briefing. You don't have the correct security clearance".

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

800 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:10:57am

not digging the new iGoogle, by the way

801 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:11:24am

re: #789 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Damn, I think yes, but if the candidate wasn't officially the nominee yet, I don't know. I do know when you become the nominee you get a nat security brief but before, I just don't know.

802 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:11:41am
803 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:12:19am

re: #795 realwest

" McCain is doing better among Republicans than Obama is doing among Democrats." Really? That's good news! And I do think it's a tad early - especially given the way the Obamessiah tends to try to eat his foot every other day, to get too worried about the election NOW.

Remember the polls ON ELECTION DAY in 2004 had Kerry winning - some polls saying in a "landslide"?

The other side is, althought the Republican Base will vote for McCain, will they work and contribute if he continues to throw us under the bus all the time?

804 CIA Reject  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:12:41am

re: #782 Golem Akbar

Now that makes good sense. That may be one reason why al Qaeda has backed off in Iraq.

"They use a knife, you use a gun. They send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue..."

Hey, it worked for Eliot Ness!

805 vxbush  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:12:42am

re: #778 realwest

GACK! Gee {vxbush} I sure wish your husband all the best with that - kidneystones are best fixed promptly, like I wish my tooth (teeth?) had been!
Seriously, all the best wishes and prayers for him and for you.

Yeah, this last week has been pretty crazy. And the son has oral surgery Wednesday to have two wisdom teeth pulled out, so we're going to know the drill by heart.

Right now, I need some energy. I'm just exhausted.

806 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:12:56am

re: #794 Nevergiveup
Depends on what committee they're on. I would assume(!) that some one on the intel comm. has a higher clearance than someone on the HUD comm.

807 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:13:01am

re: #787 Nevergiveup

Nah, I didn't encourage them to stay home. I showed them why it wouldn't be bad for them to vote for McCain the Bipartisan RINO.

Anything for a win, this time.

808 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:13:07am

re: #802 Killgore Trout

Thou shalt not offend the messiah.....
In satirical payback, Obama camp denies New Yorker writer plane seat

If the New Yorker would like some of my money, all they have to do is offer to sell me a nice poster of that cover.

809 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:13:14am

re: #804 CIA Reject

"They use a knife, you use a gun. They send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue..."

Hey, it worked for Eliot Ness!

Only in the movies.

810 David Simon  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:13:15am

re: #791 Honorary Yooper

For why? So Obama can fuck up the economy so much another Reagan has to set it right?

Idiocy such as that almost defies a response. When pressed, he mentioned that the economy was good under Clinton, so that means that the economy does better under Democrats. When I mentioned the economy was good for most of Reagan's two terms and abysmal under Carter, he said "I don't want to talk about it anymore." (In other words, he should be a Democrat.)

811 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:13:49am

re: #795 realwest

" McCain is doing better among Republicans than Obama is doing among Democrats." Really? That's good news! And I do think it's a tad early - especially given the way the Obamessiah tends to try to eat his foot every other day, to get too worried about the election NOW.

Remember the polls ON ELECTION DAY in 2004 had Kerry winning - some polls saying in a "landslide"?


I was so upset by the polls, that if I hadn't voted by mail, I might have stayed home rather than voting for the sure loser, Bush. I live in California, and it was all but over for the Republicans, according to all the media. The day following the election, I put up all my Bush stickers and placards. I was so relieved.

Let's not lose the faith.

812 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:13:55am

re: #807 godfrey

Nah, I didn't encourage them to stay home. I showed them why it wouldn't be bad for them to vote for McCain the Bipartisan RINO.

Anything for a win, this time.

Good man!

813 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:14:04am

re: #761 Kenneth Kenneth, I don't know if you took extra vitamins today or what, but you're hitting 'em outta the park even more than usual.
I don't suppose we could arrange for Obama to trade places with Brown, could we?
I mean, honestly, does Obama's campaign really think that video of their candidate standing in front of historic places is gonna make the average voter think his foreign policy credentials are any better than they are, which is to say: non-existent ?

814 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:14:16am

re: #802 Killgore Trout

Thou shalt not offend the messiah.....
In satirical payback, Obama camp denies New Yorker writer plane seat

Speaking of that, I can't imagine the whole "don't depict me as a Muslim!" attitude is going over very well with the Muslims. After all, what's so bad about being a Muslim?

815 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:14:51am

re: #794 Nevergiveup

I've got to believe that presidential candidates get briefed on world situations and have appropriate clearances so that they're not completely unprepared for the situation they inherit on January 21, 2009.

That of course, doesn't mean that what they hear is what they want to know - or helps their cause. It only means that the information is available to them if they want it.

In Obama's case, he's avoided talking to Petraeus in the past, and his position on Iraq has been shown to be wrong. Wrong on the surge. Wrong on the effect of the surge, and now wants to withdraw US forces from Iraq on a timetable that still doesn't relate to reality on the ground. Forces should be reduced according to what our needs are there, combined with our strategic needs going forward, as well as what the Iraqis want in conjunction with long term strategic partnerships.

Obama doesn't seem to grasp any of this, despite all those hundreds of advisers.

816 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:15:18am

re: #813 realwest
Yes. They(obambi) think that is the case.

817 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:15:34am

re: #803 Nevergiveup

The other side is, althought the Republican Base will vote for McCain, will they work and contribute if he continues to throw us under the bus all the time?

Well, it's one bus or the other at this point if that is the case.

818 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:15:42am

re: #805 vxbush

Yeah, this last week has been pretty crazy. And the son has oral surgery Wednesday to have two wisdom teeth pulled out, so we're going to know the drill by heart.

Right now, I need some energy. I'm just exhausted.


Yes. Measured response. I like it.

819 garycooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:16:02am

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820 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:16:35am

re: #815 lawhawk

"Obama doesn't seem to grasp any of this, despite all those hundreds of advisers."

Yeah but after all they are all ex-Carter and Clinton advisers!

821 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:17:59am

re: #813 realwest

I mean, honestly, does Obama's campaign really think that video of their candidate standing in front of historic places is gonna make the average voter think his foreign policy credentials are any better than they are, which is to say: non-existent ?

That's the plan. He looks good and is convincing to the media (they are so easily swayed by that crap).

Oh look. He is so butch, that Obama. oooooo


Media. bs

822 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:18:32am

re: #813 realwest

I mean, honestly, does Obama's campaign really think that video of their candidate standing in front of historic places is gonna make the average voter think his foreign policy credentials are any better than they are

Combine video of Obama outside 10 Downing (by his lonesome), and maybe a photo of him holding up the Leaning Tower of Pisa, and you've got "foreign policy experience" gold, baby.

823 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:18:50am

re: #810 David Simon

Idiocy such as that almost defies a response. When pressed, he mentioned that the economy was good under Clinton, so that means that the economy does better under Democrats. When I mentioned the economy was good for most of Reagan's two terms and abysmal under Carter, he said "I don't want to talk about it anymore." (In other words, he should be a Democrat.)

I'll bet this neighbor voted for Stroger and Daley as well.

824 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:19:04am

re: #802 Killgore Trout

Thou shalt not offend the messiah Mahdi.....
In satirical payback, Obama camp denies New Yorker writer plane seat

Fixed it for you.

825 LindaMarie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:19:05am

re: #673 JeremyR

We need to find the weaknesses in his ideas that simple single minded folks (His supporters ) will understand. People are backing him because he is black, speaks well, and looks good. They are not listening to WHAT he says.

Fixed! I don't think there is one for the hardcore "change" at any cost.

826 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:19:08am

re: #818 Golem Akbar

Yes. Measured response. I like it.


I meant to comment on your comment. Not your difficulties (my prayers go with you on those...)

827 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:19:24am

re: #820 Nevergiveup
That means all 300 of them put together have the brains of a newt! BTW, the moslems are going to jihad on the NY subway. With whole bunch of informational(read propaganda) posters about islam.

828 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:19:29am

re: #773 taxfreekiller Spot on my friend.
Same with sanctuaries - VC could head to Cambodia and Laos and feel safe, while they re-armed, recruited, trained and planned more attacks. Just change VC, Cambodia and Laos for Al-Q, Iran and Syria, same result.
Why does our government NEVER learn from our history and OUR troops have to pay the price over and over again?

829 BBev  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:19:57am

re: #796 Golem Akbar

I'd like Obama to meet with Petraeus and start sounding a lot like Bush. Now that would really get the left's goat. heh

I would rather see Petraeus look Obama in the eye and tell him to get a pair. Well I would rather see Patraeus bitch slap him but thats no going to happen.

830 David Simon  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:19:59am

re: #823 Honorary Yooper

I'll bet this neighbor voted for Stroger and Daley as well.

lol, wouldn't surprise me.

831 opnion  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:20:02am

re: #626 realwest

Hi buzz - no, I doubt it, but maybe one or both of the other Senators who are going with him will. So whatta ya think - if Barry gets elected is it gonna be for 8 or 10 years?! LOL!
Now we know why he wants a civilian defense force as large as our military and just as well equipped - that way, when the other 7 states he's found introduce an Amendment to the Constitution to allow him to run for more than two terms, he's got (he thinks) the military muscle to back up that amendment! LOL!


Obama has Republican Chck Hagel with him & Another anti- war senator who is a Democrat.

832 Pyrocles  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:20:11am

But the media are aligning Obama's stance on a withdrawal timetable with the desire of the Iraqi government now. Since Iraq's government now wants a timetable, Obama was correct all along!

Never mind that fact that Obama and the Democrats have been screaming "timetable!" for years now, long before al Queda was routed and the Iraqi government prepared for such a timetable.

re: #815 lawhawk

833 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:21:19am

re: #832 Pyrocles

But the media are aligning Obama's stance on a withdrawal timetable with the desire of the Iraqi government now. Since Iraq's government now wants a timetable, Obama was correct all along!

You know what they say about a stopped watch.

834 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:21:39am

re: #780 Colonel Panik
LOL! Thanks - I think!

835 sparrowlake  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:21:41am

re: #813 realwest

I mean, honestly, does Obama's campaign really think that video of their candidate standing in front of historic places is gonna make the average voter think his foreign policy credentials are any better than they are, which is to say: non-existent ?

Is that what they call a rhetorical question?
Of course they do! And unfortunately it will probably work, since the average (read: uninformed) voter relies more on photo-ops and sound-bites than anything else.

836 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:21:48am

re: #815 lawhawk,
Obama doesn't seem to grasp any of this, despite all those hundreds of advisers.


That is what is so damned scary about Obama. Not only is he abysmally ignorant on Foreign Policy, he appears to be unteachable on it. He either can't or won't learn on the issue.

This is a recipe for disaster.

837 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:22:16am

re: #828 realwest
Because we have Ivy league educated girly men in the State dept. and in the bureaucracy in the Pentagon, and just general ignorance of the real world in both houses of congress.

838 vxbush  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:22:31am

re: #826 Golem Akbar

I meant to comment on your comment. Not your difficulties (my prayers go with you on those...)

Hey, you provide me with caffeine, and you can say whatever you want. :D

839 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:23:07am

re: #819 garycooper

Kwame needs to go. I sincerely hope that Bing becomes mayor. He seems far more interested in the health of the city (and the region) than in parties at the Manoogian Mansion.

840 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:23:42am

re: #786 David Simon Oh Lord, David - she's one of your neighbors? Damn.
I don't suppose you asked her how he's gonna do that (get our economy going again) didja?

841 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:23:51am

re: #822 Occasional Reader

He could stand in front of the White House for all I care and give speech after speech, but that makes him no more worthy of being the occupant. His policies are abhorrent and bass-ackward. His foreign policy amounts to little more than cut and run from Iraq, regardless of the situation on the ground and would telegraph our intentions to all our enemies, giving them time to plan for the moment we leave.

His energy policy is nothing more than taxing the oil companies and wouldn't produce another ounce of oil or watt of power.

His social program is nothing less than the massive redistribution of wealth, which if anyone bothers to look at his fiscal policy should be abundantly clear.

842 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:23:54am

re: #839 Honorary Yooper
Is that a real word? Manoogian?

843 opnion  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:23:55am

re: #803 Nevergiveup

The other side is, althought the Republican Base will vote for McCain, will they work and contribute if he continues to throw us under the bus all the time?

I agree with you. McCain can win with a perfect star alignment.
He can help his cause by repairing the damage with the Consevative base.
The conventional wisdom is that they have nowhere to go.
That is not true, they can stay home. I know , "They are just hurting themselves" The issue is we would all be screwed.

844 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:23:56am

re: #814 bosforus

Speaking of that, I can't imagine the whole "don't depict me as a Muslim!" attitude is going over very well with the Muslims. After all, what's so bad about being a Muslim?

Radical Muslims will see it as taqqiya and be pleased That Barck Hussein Obama is onboard with jihad.

Moderate Muslims will just switch the TV back over to the unicorn races from Pockystan, because Barack Obama is a fictional character, too.

Muslims who are actually Americans will ignore it because they have businesses, jobs, kids, and bills to attend to, and realize that BHO's religion is less important than his beliefs.

Muslims who are in the race-baiting business (I'm looking at you, CAIR) will see it as a terrible indication of American bigotry that Barack Hussein Obama must run from his proud origins.

845 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:24:58am

re: #834 realwest

LOL! Thanks - I think!

Some folks here on LGF a while back were saying that "Pockyston" is how Obama pronounces "Pakistan". The first thing I thought of was the Japanese snack food, "Pocky".

846 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:25:14am

re: #829 BBev

I would rather see Petraeus look Obama in the eye and tell him to get a pair. Well I would rather see Patraeus bitch slap him but thats no going to happen.


I doubt the General would actually say that, although I'm sure the thought would be in his head. However, I can see Petraeus giving Obama a quick and dirty overview of how to win this war, and Obama telling the public his plan. Which would be the same as the Bush plan. sweeeet.

847 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:25:20am

Obama to speak at No. 10 Downing... maybe Obama wants to compare himself to another British PM?

848 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:25:27am

re: #842 pingjockey

Is that a real word? Manoogian?

Yes. He was a business owner who donated a large house to the City of Detroit to be used as the mayor's residence.

849 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:25:32am

re: #789 Fat Bastard Vegetarian If he was the declared nominee of either the Dem or Repub party, I believe the answer is yes, he (no longer need to say "or she") would receive such a briefing, security clearance or no.

850 Golem Akbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:25:39am

re: #838 vxbush

Hey, you provide me with caffeine, and you can say whatever you want. :D


I hear you...

851 daughter of patriots  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:26:33am

Document forensics expert: Obama "birth certificate" a "horrible forgery"...in case this hasn't been posted here yet... from Israel Insider, just in time for Mr. BHO's whirlwind visit.

852 lawhawk  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:26:37am

re: #833 Occasional Reader

I guess it depends on what you mean by a timetable and what that actually represents. It depends entirely on which translation of Maliki's statements you consider trustworthy, and whether Maliki conditions withdrawals and drawdown of troops on the situation on the ground.

The media wants to spin this in Obama's favor, regardless of where he actually stands on the issue.

The issue should be that Iraq would not even be in a position to talk about US troop drawdowns without having the surge tremendously improve the situation in Iraq. Obama opposed the surge, thought it would never work, and that it wouldn't matter however many troops were sent.

He was wrong on the surge, and now wants to take credit for it? Figures.

853 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:27:17am

re: #849 realwest

If he was the declared nominee of either the Dem or Repub party, I believe the answer is yes, he (no longer need to say "or she") would receive such a briefing, security clearance or no.

So, I am guessing that because he is not yet the nominee, he gets no briefing yet, correct?

854 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:27:21am

re: #848 Honorary Yooper
Ok. Just seems to have the possibilities of a lot of puns/etc... Has your mayor been indicted yet?

855 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:27:32am

re: #841 lawhawk

He could stand in front of the White House for all I care and give speech after speech, but that makes him no more worthy

You're a tough nut to crack. But what if they throw in a photo of Obama posing with the Coldstream Guards outside Buckingham Palace? Would that do it?

856 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:28:30am

re: #853 Colonel Panik
Nope, he'll get a briefing. He has a security clearance by virtue of being in the Senate.

857 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:29:02am

re: #854 pingjockey

Ok. Just seems to have the possibilities of a lot of puns/etc... Has your mayor been indicted yet?

Kwame has, Daley has not.

As for my local mayor, nope, no indictment on the horizon what-so-ever (a good thing, really).

Now, I hope Fitz gets moving and indicts Blago shortly. It'd be damn funny to see Blago get indicted just before the Dems convention.

858 Nevergiveup  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:29:28am

re: #849 realwest

If he was the declared nominee of either the Dem or Repub party, I believe the answer is yes, he (no longer need to say "or she") would receive such a briefing, security clearance or no.

So what your saying is "she" Michelle isn't going to get a briefing?

859 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:29:34am

Obama, Shaman
The candidate’s post-masculine charisma tempts America in the age of Oprah.

The country, or much of it, has longed for such a figure, a man from the once-oppressed race whose rise to power will atone for the sins of slavery and racial stigmatization. But Obama’s rhetoric encompasses more than a promise of racial healing. He is not the first politician to argue that politics can redeem us, but in posing as the Adonis who will turn winter into spring, he revives one of the more pernicious political swindles: the belief that a charismatic leader can ordain a civic happy hour and give a people a sense of community that will make them feel less bad.

Oh dear.

860 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:29:58am

re: #856 pingjockey

Nope, he'll get a briefing. He has a security clearance by virtue of being in the Senate.

Ah, yes.

That really makes me feel a whole lot better.

/not

861 Spider Mensch  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:30:32am

re: #841 lawhawk

He could stand in front of the White House for all I care and give speech after speech, but that makes him no more worthy of being the occupant. His policies are abhorrent and bass-ackward. His foreign policy amounts to little more than cut and run from Iraq, regardless of the situation on the ground and would telegraph our intentions to all our enemies, giving them time to plan for the moment we leave.

His energy policy is nothing more than taxing the oil companies and wouldn't produce another ounce of oil or watt of power.

His social program is nothing less than the massive redistribution of wealth, which if anyone bothers to look at his fiscal policy should be abundantly clear.

plus his abortion views are close to infanticide. they really are, and that he gets a pass on this with his followers is really scary.

862 David Simon  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:30:37am

re: #840 realwest

Oh Lord, David - she's one of your neighbors? Damn.
I don't suppose you asked her how he's gonna do that (get our economy going again) didja?

It's a he, and economics is (clearly) not one of his strengths. That's what worries me most about the upcoming election: It seems like an awful lot of people have strong opinions about the candidate they say they're going to vote for, but the don't have the foggiest idea why.

863 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:30:54am

re: #803 Nevergiveup Well, as I've said before, I don't recall when exactly the Republican Party became the party of only the conservatives.
But having said that, if they don't work for a McCain victory and Obama wins, shame on THEM. McCain ran his primary race fair and square and won. Period. If "Republicans" can't rally around and support the nominee who won the most primaries and most votes, then we are doomed to Obama.
And what will happen to the convervative wing of the Republican party if it doesn't go all out for McCain and - for whatever reason - McCain WINS?

864 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:31:11am

re: #857 Honorary Yooper
Not quite up on Chicago politics, is Kwame, Kwame Brown? I've heard of Blago, but that is about it.
Also, can Daley jr. raise the dead to vote like his dad did?

865 VegasRick  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:32:15am

re: #856 pingjockey

Nope, he'll get a briefing. He has a security clearance by virtue of being in the Senate.

Very brief. "This is a gun, this is a rifle".

866 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:32:16am

re: #805 vxbush
{vxbush} "so we're going to know the drill by heart." OUCH! That one hurt! LOL!

867 Iron Fist  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:32:16am

re: #860 Colonel Panik,

Think about that in terms of the major National Security leaks that have gone out to the New York Times. Some of the stuff (i.e. Wiretapping) only briefed certain committees, as I understand it.

Who leaked (I think we all know why)? I just want to know who.

868 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:33:41am

Morning Lizards, Anyone else see Batman this weekend?

869 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:34:29am

re: #864 pingjockey

Not quite up on Chicago politics, is Kwame, Kwame Brown? I've heard of Blago, but that is about it.
Also, can Daley jr. raise the dead to vote like his dad did?

Kwame is Kwame Kilpatrick, Mayor of Detroit. He's going to be a major thorn in the side of the Obama campaign in Michigan this year as he's an Obama supporter. Kwame is one reason I see Michigan going red this year. Enough people are PO'd about it.

Yes, King Richard II can raise the dead as his father King Richard I did. Happens every time there is a mayor, gubenatorial, or county election. If not the dead, then enough opposition votes go missing to push the vote in his/his candidate's favor.

870 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:34:42am

Hi lizards.

871 Pyrocles  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:35:15am

Holy crap... /puke

re: #859 Kenneth

Obama, Shaman
The candidate’s post-masculine charisma tempts America in the age of Oprah.


Oh dear.

872 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:36:45am

re: #851 daughter of patriots

Hot Air had an article about the yesterday. The "experts" are wrong, the birth cert is real.

873 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:36:53am

re: #852 lawhawk

and whether Maliki conditions withdrawals and drawdown of troops on the situation on the ground

Seeing as it'll be his own head on the chopping block (literally) if things go south, I'm guessing he's deeply, truly interested in the situation on the ground.

I agree that it's darkly comical that after Obama has been wrongly bleating "withdraw the troops NOW!" for years, when victory was far from assured, now that (due to Bush NOT listening to his ilk, and the magnificent performance of our troops) conditions are actually favorable for troop level drawdowsn, he's now being portrayed by much of the media as "look, he was right all along!".

874 vxbush  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:37:28am

re: #866 realwest

{vxbush} "so we're going to know the drill by heart." OUCH! That one hurt! LOL!

Yeah, but that's only because your teeth hurt already!

875 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:37:49am

re: #860 Colonel Panik
Yep. I don't think real highly of my fellow citizens electing an empty suit like this to the senate. Then again, the I-5 corridor here in Wa. state elected Cantwell and Murray to the senate!

876 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:37:55am

re: #870 WriterMom

Hey there! Bitchy bad Bolshevik boss still gone?

877 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:37:59am

re: #867 Iron Fist

,

Think about that in terms of the major National Security leaks that have gone out to the New York Times. Some of the stuff (i.e. Wiretapping) only briefed certain committees, as I understand it.

Who leaked (I think we all know why)? I just want to know who.

Mark Levin always refers to Senator Leahy from Vermont as "Leaky Leahy, the Senator from Depends."

But I would not be surprised if the Obamahdi was behind some of those leaks as well.

878 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:38:28am

re: #815 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk!
"Obama doesn't seem to grasp any of this, despite because of all those hundreds of advisers."
Seriously, he's got Clinton and Carter retreads working for him by the bushelfull - I don't think highly of Obama's history education (or frankly any of his education) and he's relying on the likes of Weasely Clark and Zbignev whateverhisname is - Carter's National Security advisor - among others.
As troubled as I am by Obama and his apparent affiliation with the far left "activists" in the Dem Party, I'm almost as concerned with his lack of ability to get GOOD advisors on board his team.

879 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:39:05am

re: #869 Honorary Yooper
Thanks for the info. Leastwise I have an idea about who the players are.

880 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:39:36am

re: #851 daughter of patriots
Here it is....
The End Of The COLB Cult - Myth Busted Again

881 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:40:24am

re: #865 VegasRick

Very brief. "This is a gun, this is a rifle".

I vote that Obama get his security briefing from Gunny Hartman.

"Are you quitting on me? Well, are you? Then quit, you slimy fucking walrus-looking piece of shit! Get the fuck off of my obstacle! Get the fuck down off of my obstacle! NOW! MOVE IT! I'm going to rip your balls off*, so you cannot contaminate the rest of the world! I will motivate you, Private Obama, IF IT SHORT-DICKS EVERY CANNIBAL ON THE CONGO!"


_________________________________
*pace, Jesse Jackson

882 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:41:32am

re: #863 realwest


And what will happen to the convervative wing of the Republican party if it doesn't go all out for McCain and - for whatever reason - McCain WINS?

Great question, and it can be followed by:
What will happen to the conservative wing of the Republican party if it does go all out for McCain and - for whatever reason- he wins?

My guess - tire tracks (bus size), either way.

883 songbird  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:41:52am

re: #859 Kenneth

Obama, Shaman
The candidate’s post-masculine charisma tempts America in the age of Oprah.

Oh dear.

Messiah or Antichrist. You choose.

884 Kenneth  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:43:03am

re: #883 songbird

Charismatic Leader or Charming Swindler?

885 WriterMom  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:43:21am

re: #876 Kenneth

Heh. You know it. Not Bolshevik, just a bitch.

I'm not going to be on line much today..I'm not myself.

My son had a grand mal seizure on Saturday for the first time ever. It was absolutely terrifying. He's fine now, but it was paramedics, ambulance, hospital. I really thought he was going to die. So, I'm just trying to stay cool and get a few things done. I'm still shaking actually when I write this. Some might think I am crazy, but I literally felt the Angel of Death in my house, hovering around, and it disappeared when the seizure was over. I have felt the Angel of Death around me in other situations and I have always been right... I'm not crazy though. Just a mess.

886 songbird  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:03am

re: #884 Kenneth

Charismatic Leader or Charming Swindler?

Magical Thinking or Unthinking Acceptance

887 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:38am

re: #863 realwest

Well, as I've said before, I don't recall when exactly the Republican Party became the party of only the conservatives.
But having said that, if they don't work for a McCain victory and Obama wins, shame on THEM. McCain ran his primary race fair and square and won. Period. If "Republicans" can't rally around and support the nominee who won the most primaries and most votes, then we are doomed to Obama.
And what will happen to the convervative wing of the Republican party if it doesn't go all out for McCain and - for whatever reason - McCain WINS?

I think most of the people on the right whining about McCain are Ron Paulbots anyway.

He wasn't my first choice (that was Duncan Hunter!) but at this point I would crawl across broken glass to vote against Obama!

888 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:51am

re: #885 WriterMom

{WriterMom and son}

889 Colonel Panik  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:57am

re: #883 songbird

Messiah or Antichrist. You choose.

Mahdi.

890 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:45:49am

re: #883 songbird

Messiah or Antichrist. You choose.

None of the above. Empty suit.