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Pat Condell: Islam is Not a Victim

Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:35:19 pm PDT

“But let’s not be too negative here. Occasionally, just occasionally, a small oasis of sanity does emerge from this desert of bollock-brained Islamic appeasement.”

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1 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:36:32pm

Popping the popcorn....

2 Bobibutu  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:36:50pm

Always a joy to listen to Condell.

3 mossley  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:37:36pm

I feel in love with this right from his opening statement!

4 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:37:45pm

Unfortunately, he makes too much sense to be understood by many.

5 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:37:50pm

Pat Condell needs to join McCain's staff.

6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:38:10pm

Love this guy...let's go watch.

7 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:38:14pm

You go Pat!

8 noshariaincanada  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:39:04pm

just finished watching.

Awesome.

9 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:39:18pm
10 noshariaincanada  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:41:10pm

"bollock-brained Islamic appeasement"

rotating title anyone?

11 Flying Dutchman  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:43:37pm

This guy is awesome !
Can't say better.

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:45:29pm

Please tell me this guy has a LGF nic. Please.

Love the sign-off..."Peace. Now that's a much better idea. Don'tcha think?" PC

13 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:45:32pm

Pat Rocks!

14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:45:34pm

I love listening to this guy

15 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:46:10pm

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was thinking that too- wouldn't it be great if he was here among us?

16 Silhouette  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:46:54pm

"Some people fly off the handle for being told they can't take criticism."

Heh

17 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:47:12pm

Whoo!
That was fun.

I love people who can rant logically, and coherently.

18 chinesearithmetic  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:48:36pm

This Englishman isn't lording it over us.

19 DaMishMan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:48:56pm

My wife and I love this guy! He's the only reason I still hold out hope for the British Isles.

20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:49:45pm

re: #17 rlevitin

Really not a rant though. Well thought out, well said, well phrased ...just...just great.

21 Charles  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:50:02pm

Pat Condell's view of "intelligent design:"

22 kahall  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:50:57pm

Common sense? Ok I keel you then.

23 code red 21  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:51:32pm

I just hope more of their "pissing" gets blown back at them. Way to go Pat you brave bastard.

24 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:51:40pm

There's got to be an LGF Honor we can bestow
upon this man!
A Doctorate of Common Sense!?
Love it!

25 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:52:19pm

I'll say a prayer for Pat.

26 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:52:38pm

A funny rant!

27 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:53:20pm

re: #21 Charles

Pat Condell's view of "intelligent design:"

[Link: youtube.com...]

I'm not even done with the one at the beginning! I hope the ID is as funny as this one.

28 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:54:24pm

"...patronizing multi-cultural fascist...."

Take that, Berkley.

29 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:55:01pm

re: #21 Charles

Pat Condell's view of "intelligent design:"

[Link: youtube.com...]

His theory is just crazy. Everyone knows when you cross a pig and a monkey, you get a Jew!

/Is this tag really necessary?

30 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:55:19pm

The puppy dog of doom!

31 kuffarharbi  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:55:30pm

Pat's great to listen to. He's nearly always spot on. But I recall him saying in one of his videos...I think it's called 'Why I like Jews'...that Jerusalem is an Arab city and the sooner the Jews let it go the better. I think he needs some serious feedback and to start reading up on Jewish history.

32 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:55:34pm

re: #21 Charles

Aww- lower life forms like born again Republicans? It could be worse. We could have evolved from spineless democrats like jhimmi carter.

33 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:56:10pm

bullock brained?

34 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:57:17pm

re: #20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really not a rant though. Well thought out, well said, well phrased ...just...just great.

Indeed.

Great sums its up nicely. So much fun to watch :)

35 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:57:19pm

re: #21 Charles

That's funny, I don't think I've seen that one before.

36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:57:27pm

re: #33 MandyManners

bullock brained?

Sandra Bullock?

37 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:57:58pm

re: #33 MandyManners

Are you sure?
I thought he said buttock brained!
I'll have to look again!
But it's 'bout the same.

38 wrenchwench  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:58:01pm

re: #21 Charles

"...lower life forms such as lizards, apes, and born-again Republicans."

Heh.

39 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:58:47pm

I'd like to tell pat that a belief in Creation is not a theory! It's just that: a belief!

40 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:59:07pm

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sandra Bullock?

*snicker*

41 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:59:25pm

re: #32 Sharmuta

Aww- lower life forms like born again Republicans? It could be worse. We could have evolved from spineless democrats like jhimmi carter.

* * *
That's Capitulating Carter.

Phylogeny recapitulating ontogeny, begat Obama.

42 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:59:38pm

re: #24 reloadingisnotahobby

We could nominate him for the anti-idiotarian award next time. I'm pretty sure he hasn't been nominated before.

43 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 1:59:43pm

re: #37 reloadingisnotahobby

Are you sure?
I thought he said buttock brained!
I'll have to look again!
But it's 'bout the same.

I'm sure he said "bullock". It's a favorite word of the Brits, from what I've seen.

44 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:00:03pm

Gotta' go. Carry on, all you Mandys.

45 Cygnus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:00:47pm

re: #21 Charles

Pat Condell's view of "intelligent design:"

[Link: youtube.com...]

That is too funny! "We are the pig-monkeys of Earth" would be a great rotating title. Keep it up, Charles!

/OEC with a sense of humor (gasp!)

46 Victrola  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:00:56pm

You know, based on the number of hits that his videos get, it seems to me that a really clever fellow in the world of television might do well to give this guy a job.

47 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:02:14pm

re: #31 kuffarharbi

Pat's great to listen to. He's nearly always spot on. But I recall him saying in one of his videos...I think it's called 'Why I like Jews'...that Jerusalem is an Arab city and the sooner the Jews let it go the better. I think he needs some serious feedback and to start reading up on Jewish history.

48 Cygnus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:02:36pm

re: #31 kuffarharbi

Pat's great to listen to. He's nearly always spot on. But I recall him saying in one of his videos...I think it's called 'Why I like Jews'...that Jerusalem is an Arab city and the sooner the Jews let it go the better. I think he needs some serious feedback and to start reading up on Jewish history.

That would be good, but he believes that the Bible (Tanakh) is a bunch of myths.

49 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:03:00pm

re: #33 MandyManners

Have you ever had to run from a mean cow or a bull?

They're very determined, but not terribly bright.

50 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:03:02pm

re: #41 alegrias

* * *
That's Capitulating Carter.

Phylogeny recapitulating ontogeny, begat Obama.

* * *
Sorry, misremembered the phrase when in evolutionary fact, it's the reverse!

"...Ontogeny and Phylogeny (Stephen Jay Gould) - review

The idea that the development [CHANGE!] of individuals is a progression through adult ancestral forms, epitomised in the saying "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny", begat Obama.

from [Link: dannyreviews.com...]

51 Airedale  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:03:05pm

Pat Rocks. I've been listening to his screeds/rants for about a year now. Suprised some jihadi hasn't intimidated him yet

52 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:03:51pm

re: #46 Victrola

He'd never make it on TV. Advertisers and TV executives would be too afraid of boycotts and pressure groups.

53 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:03:52pm

Can't watch his ID "rant" at work, connection too bloody slow.

I will say this, even when Pat been on a "rant" about my faith. It's still entertaining! I'd love to sit in a Pub, knock back a pint with him and have a lively conversation.

54 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:04:13pm

I can say with certianty...
That I wouldn't last a week in a community of Muslims here in the states!
What is the bail for offending Islam in Dearborn?
Must start a fund drive!
Just in case.................

55 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:04:54pm

re: #51 Airedale

They've tried. He doesn't seem particularly easy to intimidate.

56 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:06:23pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout
It'd be fun to plaster subways with adds
as if he was coming to American Radio!
Teeeeheheh!

57 amphibian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:06:41pm

re: #31 kuffarharbi

Pat's great to listen to. He's nearly always spot on. But I recall him saying in one of his videos...I think it's called 'Why I like Jews'...that Jerusalem is an Arab city and the sooner the Jews let it go the better. I think he needs some serious feedback and to start reading up on Jewish history.

I remember it too. It seems to me that Mr. Condell takes an initial attitude of "I'm smarter than all those other dumber-than-I people, and I will now reason out a solution that they can't see", and goes where this leads. Unfortunately, this also leads to Socialist-style upsetting of established order, only leading to a new not significantly better order emerging, plus a few million dead. If the smarter-than-you reasoners ever admit that they were wrong, all you get from them is an "oops".

In the Israel/Jerusalem case, the solution is "if the Arabs want it so much, let them have it". Unintended consequences are... well, you and I and just about everyone else on LGF can see them, but not Comrade Condell. So I agree with you: generally good, usually entertaining, but in some cases flawed. I don't think that he will be interested in feedback.

58 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:07:16pm

re: #53 jcm

Pat is often pretty harsh but I don't see the same anger and disdain in him that I see in Hitch and Dawkins.

59 winston06  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:07:24pm

This guy is still a Leftist

60 kuffarharbi  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:09:33pm

re: #47 rlevitin

[Link: youtube.com...]

He says Israel is in the wrong place, he puts down the 'settlement builders' in 'occupied territory' and that Jerusalem does not belong to them.

Here's his site. He needs correcting.

[Link: patcondell.net...]

61 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:09:43pm

re: #53 jcm

Can't watch his ID "rant" at work, connection too bloody slow.

I will say this, even when Pat been on a "rant" about my faith. It's still entertaining! I'd love to sit in a Pub, knock back a pint with him and have a lively conversation.

* * *
He's qualified to be president, as that is American's standard--would you have a beer with him. [And some pork ribs]

62 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:09:45pm

Another splendid rant!

63 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:09:46pm

re: #55 Dianna

That's one of the reasons his videos are so refreshing and inspiring.

64 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:10:11pm

THAT is good stuff, going back now to watch his ID video...

65 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:10:37pm

re: #49 Dianna

Have you ever had to run from a mean cow or a bull?

They're very determined, but not terribly bright.

"Bullock" is the British slang for testicle.

66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:11:17pm

re: #59 winston06

This guy is still a Leftist

There's a big difference between the classic liberal/left mind set of 30-40 years ago and the hard socialist-communist left leading the way today. I've got no problems with a Pat Condell/ Joe Lieberman Leftist. I'll save my vitriol for the Obama/Kos/Gore types.

67 Right Brain  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:11:18pm

Love this guy!

68 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:11:22pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Pat is often pretty harsh but I don't see the same anger and disdain in him that I see in Hitch and Dawkins.

From my perspective, I take his arguments seriously. I say that because if I am to discuss my faith, those points will come up. It's helpfull to be able to sensibly respond. Yeah, I don't get the same flavor from his "rants" it's with a sarcastic / humorous edge too it, not disdain.

69 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:13:05pm

re: #49 Dianna

Have you ever had to run from a mean cow or a bull?

They're very determined, but not terribly bright.

* * *
You been running in Pamplona or fighting bulls in the arena? Hmmmm? Women matadors and picadors are not a dime a dozen.

70 winston06  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:13:07pm

re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There's a big difference between the classic liberal/left mind set of 30-40 years ago and the hard socialist-communist left leading the way today. I've got no problems with a Pat Condell/ Joe Lieberman Leftist. I'll save my vitriol for the Obama/Kos/Gore types.

Their very own domestic policies have caused this mess. No?

71 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:13:13pm

"bollock-brained islamic appeasement" That's a classic.

72 zmdavid  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:13:22pm

I wonder how many of these "reason"able people like Condell agree that you can believe in God (in the Jewish or Christian sense) and evolution at the same time?

73 Age Of Freedom  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:13:36pm

Great. Pat r0x0rz.

74 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:14:01pm

re: #65 MandyManners

"Bollock", not "bullock."

75 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:14:08pm

re: #61 alegrias

* * *
He's qualified to be president, as that is American's standard--would you have a beer with him. [And some pork ribs]

In a hearbeat. I'd take his philosophy which is a more rigorous intellectual way of thinking than about 99% of American pols and their political thinking.

76 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:15:02pm

The term is bollock, not bullock. A bullock is a large cattle beast.

Bollocks can be either testicles, "he had large 'airy bollocks"

or, total nonsense. "You talk nothing but bollocks"

Either way, islamists can interchange these meanings at will with regard their brains.

77 Cygnus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:15:14pm

I'd love to hear him having a discussion with Lee Strobel (former atheist and author of The Case for Christ. They both have a sarcastic wit.

78 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:15:36pm

re: #72 zmdavid

I'd guess the the vast majority acknowledge the two are not mutually exclusive. The only people that are pushing that idea are the creationists.

79 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:15:42pm

re: #74 Dianna

"Bollock", not "bullock."


You beat me to it, sorry.

80 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:15:46pm

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Pat is often pretty harsh but I don't see the same anger and disdain in him that I see in Hitch and Dawkins.

I think it has some to do with the fact he's made it pretty clear he just wants to be left alone in that regard. He doesn't care what others believe, just so long as he's free to continue to believe as he wishes. That's a position I think many can understand and respect.

81 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:15:49pm

re: #75 jcm

In a hearbeat. I'd take his philosophy which is a more rigorous intellectual way of thinking than about 99% of American pols and their political thinking.

* * *
Yeah, but the newer benchmarks for president include can he shoot basketballs and appear divine?

82 Peter Verkooijen  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:16:05pm

@amphibian and others, Pat Condell's outlook is very similar to Theo van Gogh's.

Both are former "leftist" nihilists who have their priorities straight when it comes to basic freedoms and who understand the threat of islam. They are certainly not socialists, but they are liberals, certainly in the European sense.

For American conservatives, this type is liberal is a much better ally than a European conservative! European conservatives are much more likely to be elitist ex-monarchists, EU-supporters or neonazis.

83 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:17:10pm

re: #82 Peter Verkooijen

@amphibian and others, Pat Condell's outlook is very similar to Theo van Gogh's.

Both are former "leftist" nihilists who have their priorities straight when it comes to basic freedoms and who understand the threat of islam. They are certainly not socialists, but they are liberals, certainly in the European sense.

For American conservatives, this type is liberal is a much better ally than a European conservative! European conservatives are much more likely to be elitist ex-monarchists, EU-supporters or neonazis.

* * *
Hey Peter, did Holland release your infidel cartoonist from jail yet?

84 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:17:24pm

Mea culpa!

85 Flying Dutchman  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:18:14pm

re: #66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There's a big difference between the classic liberal/left mind set of 30-40 years ago and the hard socialist-communist left leading the way today. I've got no problems with a Pat Condell/ Joe Lieberman Leftist. I'll save my vitriol for the Obama/Kos/Gore types.

Same here, no problem whatsoever with this kind of leftist (but is he really one ?)

86 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:18:33pm

He is funny, but his stance on Israel bothers me.

87 vagabond trader  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:18:37pm

Er, before we get too tingly, please keep in mind that Mr Condell is no fan of Israel or its inhabitants.

88 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:18:55pm

re: #69 alegrias

No - but I have a couple great stories.

A bit of a favorite:

Driving back from Tracy, California very late one night, I cut through Livermore and then through the canyon over to Fremont. As I'm happily swooping through the last set of curves in the brilliant moonlight, three boys come tumbling down the slope and onto the road in front of me.

I managed to miss them. I put the window down and started yelling at them, asking what the heck they thought they were doing.

One of the boys - who smelled very strongly of beer - explained that they'd been out cow-tipping. However, one of the cows turned out to be a bull. They had to run and dive over the fence. This is how they came to be tumbling down a slope and nearly got hit by me.

89 VegasRick  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:19:08pm

re: #84 MandyManners

Mea culpa!

Esu culpa!

90 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:19:43pm

re: #81 alegrias

* * *
Yeah, but the newer benchmarks for president include can he shoot basketballs and appear divine?

Don't forget making women faint during speeches.

91 kuffarharbi  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:20:07pm

re: #86 CapeCoddah

He is funny, but his stance on Israel bothers me.

It more than bothers me. It's downright wrong and dangerous. This guy has a lot of fans.

92 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:20:16pm

re: #88 Dianna


Cow-tipping, please explain?

93 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:20:36pm

re: #88 Dianna

No - but I have a couple great stories.

A bit of a favorite:

Driving back from Tracy, California very late one night, I cut through Livermore and then through the canyon over to Fremont. As I'm happily swooping through the last set of curves in the brilliant moonlight, three boys come tumbling down the slope and onto the road in front of me.

I managed to miss them. I put the window down and started yelling at them, asking what the heck they thought they were doing.

One of the boys - who smelled very strongly of beer - explained that they'd been out cow-tipping. However, one of the cows turned out to be a bull. They had to run and dive over the fence. This is how they came to be tumbling down a slope and nearly got hit by me.

Classic! ROFL!

94 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:20:50pm

re: #86 CapeCoddah

He is funny, but his stance on Israel bothers me.


Ditto.

95 RickZ  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:21:17pm

re: #92 A Kiwi Infidel

Cow-tipping, please explain?

Exactly what it sounds like, tipping living cows over onto their side. It's rural self-entertainment.

96 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:21:18pm

re: #90 jcm

Don't forget making women faint during speeches.

* * *
And his adoring press eating out of his pre-presidential hands!

97 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:21:25pm

re: #87 vagabond trader

Er, before we get too tingly, please keep in mind that Mr Condell is no fan of Israel or its inhabitants.

He sounds like he is a fan of the state of Israel and its accomplishments in terms of military and technology (thats an assumption), he is NOT fan of the religious aspects of Israel, and has a couple of facts muddled regarding Jerusalem/moral-equivalency of Settlers vs. Terrorists.

He is right about ultra-orthodox jews who throw riots because of certain things that the state is tolerant of.

98 hellosnackbar  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:21:38pm

On the ball again Pat as always.
His whole anthology is availalable on DVD at [Link: www.richarddawkins.net...]
BTW he said" bollock brained "meaning brain damaged ,stupid or illogical."
If you hear an englishman say"you're talking bollocks"he means you're talking shit.(it's really an old word for testes(

99 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:21:51pm

re: #88 Dianna
LOL,,that will teach them to tip cows! BTW, just who is it, sitting around on a Saturday night, that says to his buddies..."Hey, I've got a great idea, Lets go cow tipping". Whoever does that, really needs to get a life!

100 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:22:11pm

re: #95 RickZ

Exactly what it sounds like, tipping living cows over onto their side. It's rural self-entertainment.


Ooooookay, each to their own.

101 vagabond trader  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:22:46pm

re: #97 rlevitin

oh, ok then, he's what may be called a semi anti semite.

102 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:23:00pm

re: #92 A Kiwi Infidel

Cow tipping is exactly what it sounds like. Tipping over unsuspecting sleeping cows. They sleep on thier feet.

103 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:23:02pm

re: #88 Dianna

* * *
Yes, those boys are not toreros, picadors, or matador material!

Of course, neither is Zapatero and his american twin, Obama.

104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:23:03pm

re: #70 winston06

Their very own domestic policies have caused this mess. No?

Classic liberals focus more on individual rights and prefer a hands off approach for the government. The interventionist form of Liberalism feel they need to save the world and need to get their hands into everything.

105 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:23:32pm

re: #92 A Kiwi Infidel

An activity usually engaged in by drunk, bored boys. Cows sleep with their legs tucked under. If you walk up to the cow and give her a shove, she tips over. Alternatively - and more dangerously, both for you and the cow - some cows sleep standing up. Walk up to the cow and give her a shove (from the uphill side) and she'll go tumbling over.

However, if she wakes up, she'll kick the snot out of you, and if you're downhill of her...well...cows are not light.

106 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:23:46pm

re: #97 rlevitin

He sounds like he is a fan of the state of Israel and its accomplishments in terms of military and technology (thats an assumption), he is NOT fan of the religious aspects of Israel, and has a couple of facts muddled regarding Jerusalem/moral-equivalency of Settlers vs. Terrorists.

He is right about ultra-orthodox jews who throw riots because of certain things that the state is tolerant of.

To clarify, it bothers me too, but I am willing to overlook his view on those few other things regarding Israel as ignorance, and I still enjoy the rest of his stuff.

107 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:24:25pm

re: #81 alegrias

* * *
Yeah, but the newer benchmarks for president include can he shoot basketballs and appear divine?

I can't watch. A week long Obama infomercial is too much to bear.

108 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:25:11pm

re: #99 CapeCoddah

LOL,,that will teach them to tip cows! BTW, just who is it, sitting around on a Saturday night, that says to his buddies..."Hey, I've got a great idea, Lets go cow tipping". Whoever does that, really needs to get a life!

Ever see the movie Tommy Boy?

109 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:25:15pm

re: #99 CapeCoddah

I've never met anyone who cow tipped after they got a job.

110 ointmentfly  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:25:34pm

The only thing more dangerous than an islamist is a multiculturalist in office.

111 kuffarharbi  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:25:48pm

re: #106 rlevitin

To clarify, it bothers me too, but I am willing to overlook his view on those few other things regarding Israel as ignorance, and I still enjoy the rest of his stuff.

Agreed.

112 Joan Not of Arc  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:25:57pm

Oooh... the snark!
Whatever else Mr. Condell might say, he's right on the nose with this video.
What Mr. Condell should be careful of is what is in the Koran. All that Islamofascists do now is written there. There is no "nicer, gentler" form of Islam, unless someone wants to start their own branch.

113 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:26:12pm

Sorry, its horses that sleep standing, not cows, my bad.

114 rlevitin  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:26:20pm

re: #99 CapeCoddah

LOL,,that will teach them to tip cows! BTW, just who is it, sitting around on a Saturday night, that says to his buddies..."Hey, I've got a great idea, Lets go cow tipping". Whoever does that, really needs to get a life!


It's actually a long standing joke amongst my friends.

Very popular amongst youth to *SAY* you are going to go cow-tipping.

How many actually go and do it -- well, thats another story.

115 RickZ  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:26:22pm

re: #109 Dianna

I've never met anyone who cow tipped after they got a job.

I never knew anyone who tipped cows. Now stealing watermelons . . .

116 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:26:36pm

re: #113 CapeCoddah

Hey there.

Big storms down your way?

117 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:27:09pm

re: #108 bosforus

A long, long time ago, don't remember much of it...

118 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:27:35pm

re: #113 CapeCoddah

Cows do both. It depends on whether they were grazing (standing sleep) or chewing cud (cuddled down sleep) when they fell asleep.

119 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:27:53pm

re: #109 Dianna
And, conversely, I have never met anyone who got a job after they tipped a cow!

120 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:28:30pm

re: #117 CapeCoddah

A long, long time ago, don't remember much of it...

There's a pretty funny cow tipping scene in there. Basically, the late great Chris Farley is the cow tipping type.

121 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:28:48pm

re: #107 loppyd

I can't watch. A week long Obama infomercial is too much to bear.


* * *
The Unbearable Lightness of His Being!

(Mitt, Mitt, wherefor art thou?)

122 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:29:19pm

re: #116 loppyd
Hiya loppy, clear as a bell here, Nantucket got hit with t-storms around 2pm, though. Sunny, warm, and the grandbaby is playing in the inflatable boat we filled with water.

123 right_on_target  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:29:28pm

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Please tell me this guy has a LGF nic. Please.

Love the sign-off..."Peace. Now that's a much better idea. Don'tcha think?" PC

Reminds me of the late Dave Garroway and his sign-off.

124 stevieray  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:29:51pm

Check this out.

This little piece from The Columbia Journalism Review captures everything wrong with journalism and higher education in one neat little package.

First the author quotes Howard Zinn as if he's an expert on anything:

For someone like myself, who fought in World War II, and since then has protested against war, I must ask: Have our political leaders gone mad? Have they learned nothing from recent history? Have they not learned that no one “wins” in a war, but that hundreds of thousands of humans die, most of them civilians, many of them children?

Then the journalist agrees with him:

He’s right, of course. The term “victory” in relation to recent armed conflicts seems almost non sequitur, not only because of the irreparable human costs associated with war but, more immediately, because of the changing schema of the conflicts.

And to top it off, the author seems to write off the nation/state as well:

Winning a war in the traditional sense of the word may have gone the way of nation-states, as Zinn suggests. But the rhetorical power of the word “win” may be too strong for the candidates to avoid.

The poison of post-modernism runs deep in the media, and all the cool journalists think they are post-national as well.

125 trailortrash  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:30:18pm

PC rocks

126 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:31:00pm

re: #114 rlevitin
In my day, we used to just pick the mushrooms off of the cow shit
(I could never bring myself to eat them, though. Wonder if that has anything to do with the tipping thing?)

127 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:31:23pm

re: #121 alegrias

* * *
The Unbearable Lightness of His Being!

(Mitt, Mitt, wherefor art thou?)

I'm still holding out hope for Mitt!

128 bellamags  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:31:35pm

re: #108 bosforus

That is my favorite movie of all time. I can recite it line by line.

129 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:32:14pm

re: #126 CapeCoddah

Probably not.

130 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:32:14pm

re: #118 Dianna
Learn something new every day! Thanks for the info. I will keep it in mind if I ever lose my mind and decide to give cow tipping a try!

131 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:32:16pm

re: #124 stevieray

Check this out.

This little piece from The Columbia Journalism Review captures everything wrong with journalism and higher education in one neat little package.

First the author quotes Howard Zinn as if he's an expert on anything:


The poison of post-modernism runs deep in the media, and all the cool journalists think they are post-national as well.

Proof you can earn a college degree and yet learn absolutely nothing.

132 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:32:40pm

re: #122 CapeCoddah

Big storm just moved through here (North Shore) but skies are clearing now.

Must be so nice to spend time w/ your grandbaby!

133 Flying Dutchman  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:32:54pm
134 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:32:55pm

The scene in Cars where they go tractor tipping is pretty funny.

135 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:33:20pm

re: #120 bosforus
I do remember Chris Farley seemed to be the cow tipping type.

136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:33:43pm

re: #128 bellamags

That is my favorite movie of all time. I can recite it line by line.

FAT MAN IN A LITTLE COAT.

137 MJ  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:33:56pm

Wonder who plays Charles?
The Mapes book...unbelievable!

Would 'Rathergate' Make a Good Movie?
Hollywood Insiders Working on Screen Adaptation
by Felix Gillette


The Media Mob has learned that a team of Hollywood insiders is currently working on a screen adaptation of Truth And Duty: The Press, the President, and the Privilege of Power—the 2005 book by former CBS News producer Mary Mapes, in which she defends the 60 Minutes II story by Dan Rather about President George W. Bush's time in the Texas Air National Guard, which ran on CBS in September 2004 and eventually led to her ouster from the network.

Who would want to turn "Rathergate" into a feature-length film?

According to sources familiar with the situation, Producer Mikkel Bondesen, (his credits include serving as executive producer on the USA Network series "Burn Notice") is actively working on the adaptation with screenwriter James Vanderbilt
[Link: www.observer.com...]

138 ointmentfly  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:34:41pm

re: #124 stevieray

Check this out.

This little piece from The Columbia Journalism Review captures everything wrong with journalism and higher education in one neat little package.

First the author quotes Howard Zinn as if he's an expert on anything:


The poison of post-modernism runs deep in the media, and all the cool journalists think they are post-national as well.

War is the endgame of failed diplomacy.... Saddam had plenty of opportunities to save his people from our attack. He chose not to or thought the 200,000 troops massed in Kuwait were merely props. His choice and I'd say on behalf of the Iraqi people, he blew it.

139 alegrias  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:34:50pm

re: #124 stevieray

* * *
Hypocrites. If they don't believe in winning, why do democrats build WAR-rooms, BUILD UP massive troops of media personnel, BLAST McCain, DEPLOY old soldiers like Kerry & Reed & Hagel to frag McCain, and basically throw everything they've got, instead of singing Kumbaya with McCain?

140 Flying Dutchman  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:35:05pm
141 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:35:38pm

re: #128 bellamags

That is my favorite movie of all time. I can recite it line by line.

Well I guess that's your theory!

142 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:36:32pm

re: #132 loppyd
Lots of fun, she lives with us right now. She and mom are moving out next month, and we are gonna miss the baby, but, not so much the Daughter, she is a slob when she is here.. Love her, but, we want our freedom, and our first floor back!

143 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:37:06pm
144 bellamags  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:38:05pm

re: #136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Richard, what's wrong with me? (fat guy in a little coat, btw) and you have to swing your arms from side to side while singing.

145 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:38:17pm

The Boston Globe must have fired one too many proof readers:

Go to this link and enlarge it. Scroll down to the bottom right and see if you can see the glaring typo!

146 bellamags  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:42:08pm

re: #141 bosforus

Farley: Did you hear I finally graduated?

Spade: Yeah, in a shade under a decade too, alright.

Farley: Lots of people go to college for 8 years.

Spade: Yeah, they're called doctors.

Farley: (great dumb look on his face)

147 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:42:39pm

re: #43 MandyManners

I'm sure he said "bullock". It's a favorite word of the Brits, from what I've seen.

Bollocks is the word; mean testicles

148 bellamags  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:42:47pm

I'll stop now.

149 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:42:57pm

re: #132 loppyd
Loppy, my avatar is the granddaughter

150 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:43:35pm

re: #146 bellamags

Farley: Did you hear I finally graduated?

Spade: Yeah, in a shade under a decade too, alright.

Farley: Lots of people go to college for 8 years.

Spade: Yeah, they're called doctors.

Farley: (great dumb look on his face)

"Fat guy in a little coat...."

Still makes LOL after a zillion viewings.

151 So?  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:44:01pm

re: #13 Sharmuta

Pat Rocks!

Great slogan for a t-shirt! (with his face on it, off course)

/was gonna say, mug, but that ain't pc

152 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:44:16pm

re: #149 CapeCoddah

Loppy, my avatar is the granddaughter


Oh my. She is adorable! Glamour girl.....

153 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:45:16pm

re: #148 bellamags

I'll stop now.

There's a time and a place for everything. A late night open thread would be more conducive. :)
No offense, but if I sent a picture of your mom to some of my buddies at school...
OK, I'm done too.

154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:45:22pm

re: #144 bellamags

Richard, what's wrong with me? (fat guy in a little coat, btw) and you have to swing your arms from side to side while singing.

I can always get my office rolling when I bust out with:

"Hello, My Name is Matt Foley and I am a Motivational Speaker!"

He was a funny guy. His audition for Chippendales was legendary.

155 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:45:38pm

re: #152 loppyd

Thanks, I am kinda partial to her too, even if she did just leave graham cracker floaties in my bottle of water...

156 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:45:56pm
157 bellamags  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:46:28pm

re: #150 loppyd

my sis and i wore out the VHS. i now own a copy on DVD. (its even a special edition) -------sweet.

158 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:47:48pm

re: #157 bellamags

We need to get ourselves a copy for our DVD library!

159 bellamags  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:47:56pm

re: #154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

totally. him and spade were perfect together. they could have been a hugely successful comedy team.

160 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:48:01pm

re: #128 bellamags
Hubby and I love "What about Bob"

161 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:48:27pm

re: #154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

His brother wrote a biography. Very well written, and very sad. It quotes chronologically all of Chris' friends from the day before to the day after his death basically giving a paragraph or so of 'their story'. Very sad.

162 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:48:54pm

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

You're such a punk.

163 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:49:11pm

re: #154 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I can always get my office rolling when I bust out with:

"Hello, My Name is Matt Foley and I am a Motivational Speaker!"

He was a funny guy. His audition for Chippendales was legendary.

I am thrice divorced....

164 HoosierHoops  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:49:14pm

re: #149 CapeCoddah

Loppy, my avatar is the granddaughter


ahhhhh what a cutie pie..!

165 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:49:38pm

Testicles.

Later, Lizards.

166 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:49:42pm

re: #130 CapeCoddah

It's awfully mean, I always thought.

167 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:49:48pm

re: #163 loppyd

I am thrice divorced....

And live in a VAN down by the RIVER

168 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:49:49pm

re: #161 bosforus
What is it with Saturday Night Live? Getting a role there is pretty much a death sentance.

169 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:49:55pm
170 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:51:07pm

re: #168 CapeCoddah

What is it with Saturday Night Live? Getting a role there is pretty much a death sentance.

Fat guys on SNL and keyboard players for the Dead

What three words could have saved John Belushi's life?
No coke, Pepsi.

171 silversmith  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:51:44pm

Finally, the Attorney General is asking Congress for a declaration of war against Al Quaida. I wonder if Obama will come back and vote. It will be time for somefolks to get off the pot or do it in their pants later I think.

172 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:51:59pm

Karadzic captured?

173 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:52:15pm

Hey buzz, there was an article in the WSJ recently about Kipling -- said his favorite religion was Islam and that he routinely referred to God as 'Allah.' Any truth to this?

174 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:52:21pm

re: #166 Dianna
I totally agree, Diana, I am not a fan of any type of abuse, Child, Animal or otherwise. Just a joke, I promise!

175 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:54:11pm

re: #164 HoosierHoops
Thanks, Hoosier! we were and still are blessed with cute kids! She is a clone of her mom at that age, who was and is a clone of me.

176 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:54:51pm

re: #172 lifeofthemind

Karadzic captured?

Do you mean the Heat Miser?

177 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:54:55pm

re: #170 Kosh's Shadow
The poor bastard who's wife shot him to death was not fat!

178 Flying Dutchman  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:55:15pm

re: #172 lifeofthemind

Karadzic captured?

Yes, see my posts # 133 & 140 + spinoff link

179 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:55:27pm
180 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:55:59pm

re: #167 Kosh's Shadow

And live in a VAN down by the RIVER

David Spade stopped trying not to laugh by the end of that skit...

181 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:56:20pm

re: #172 lifeofthemind

That would be good.

182 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:56:27pm

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Spit flies at anti-war rally

Classy.

183 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:57:01pm

re: #174 CapeCoddah

I figured - it's all right.

184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:57:05pm

re: #128 bellamags

"Don'tcha remember you told me loved me baby?"

185 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:57:11pm

re: #177 CapeCoddah

The poor bastard who's wife shot him to death was not fat!

And for that matter, neither was Gilda Radner.

The only people I can think of from SNL that had careers afterwards (and are still alive) are Chevy Chase, Bill Murry, Eddie Murphy, and Dan Ackroyd (although the latter's declined after the other (Blues) Brother died.)

186 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:57:40pm

"Oh, no! I spit on a war veteran."
Amazing.

187 EC Marm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:57:42pm

re: #173 godfrey

Hey buzz, there was an article in the WSJ recently about Kipling -- said his favorite religion was Islam and that he routinely referred to God as 'Allah.' Any truth to this?


Not to butt in, but certainly if you read Kiplings poem "If" there seems to be some islamic principles at play:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you
188 amphibian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:59:22pm

re: #82 Peter Verkooijen

@amphibian and others, Pat Condell's outlook is very similar to Theo van Gogh's.

Both are former "leftist" nihilists who have their priorities straight when it comes to basic freedoms and who understand the threat of islam. They are certainly not socialists, but they are liberals, certainly in the European sense.

For American conservatives, this type is liberal is a much better ally than a European conservative! European conservatives are much more likely to be elitist ex-monarchists, EU-supporters or neonazis.

No problem with that. When I mentioned socialists before, it was merely as an example of reasoning without reality checks leading to costly errors.

189 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 2:59:37pm

re: #183 Dianna

I will joke about cow tipping, but, you don't want me to catch you doing it. I chased down a jogger yesterday who I saw throw an empty water bottle into Bass River as she jogged by it. Told her I would call the cops if she did not go retrieve it. I hate when tourists do that stuff, so, you really dont want me to catch you abusing any one or anything!

190 jcw46  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:00:31pm

OT FWIW:Obama's health plan for illegals.

Nothing that couldn't be predicted but of course we won't see this discussed by the O'MSM.

191 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:01:15pm

re: #185 Kosh's Shadow
Jane Curtain had a couple of shows, Third Rock from the Sun, and an earlier one about 2 divorced mothers, Did she not?

192 abolitionist  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:01:27pm

re: #145 loppyd

Not finding any typos, but THE CITY SEEN is an example of creative spelling, repeated in the photo gallery it links to.

193 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:01:34pm
194 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:01:40pm

re: #187 EC Marm

lol

The author of the article ponied up zero evidence for those claims about Kipling, so I suspect they're crap. Nevertheless, Kipling had pretty broad sympathies, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that he had respect for men who adhered to a strong martial and ethical code. But that's a long way from saying he was most sympathetic to Islam.

195 bosforus  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:02:27pm

re: #189 CapeCoddah

And besides, pushing a cow may lead to methane release.

196 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:03:08pm

re: #195 bosforus
Can't have that, algore would have a fit!

197 godfrey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:03:52pm

re: #193 buzzsawmonkey

There we go. I'm still surprised to see people go out of their way to make nice with Islam. In a one-off about The Jungle Book?

Gimme a break.

198 So?  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:04:34pm

re: #165 MandyManners

Testicles.

Later, Lizards.

great slogan for a t-shirt

199 amphibian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:05:02pm

re: #92 A Kiwi Infidel

Cow-tipping, please explain?

Some places in the US, especially around towns that are far from any big cities, but have large university campuses, seem to have a hard time hiring enough waiters for all their restaurants. Some restaurants have come up with the rather clever solution of using dairy cows, when they're not at work being milked, to bring patrons their food. Cow-tipping, then, is the practice of leaving some alfalfa or sweet herbs out on the table, to let the cow know she's done a good job.

Why Dianna's undergrad guys were running away after tipping their cow, I don't know.

200 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:05:03pm

re: #194 godfrey

He was also sympathetic to Sikhs. Go figure.

201 loppyd  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:05:38pm

re: #192 abolitionist

Not finding any typos, but THE CITY SEEN is an example of creative spelling, repeated in the photo gallery it links to.

Want a hint?

202 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:05:56pm

re: #191 CapeCoddah

Jane Curtain had a couple of shows, Third Rock from the Sun, and an earlier one about 2 divorced mothers, Did she not?

You're right. And then there are probably some people from after I stopped watching.
Larraine Newman was in some bad science fiction movie for a few minutes.

203 Dianna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:06:05pm

re: #199 amphibian

Because the tip was less than 10%, and the cow got annoyed.

204 amphibian  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:06:37pm

re: #102 CapeCoddah

Cow tipping is exactly what it sounds like. Tipping over unsuspecting sleeping cows. They sleep on thier feet.

Until you tip them.

205 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:07:09pm

This guy uses language like a rapier.

206 EC Marm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:07:48pm

re: #193 buzzsawmonkey
Now I have to go back and re-read "White Mans Burden" and ponder it as if it was written from a "moby" type of perspective.

207 songbird  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:08:06pm

re: #124 stevieray

Check this out.

This little piece from The Columbia Journalism Review captures everything wrong with journalism and higher education in one neat little package.

First the author quotes Howard Zinn as if he's an expert on anything:

The poison of post-modernism runs deep in the media, and all the cool journalists think they are post-national as well.

Yuk. Howard Zinn was used as a source for my "Multicultural Education" class which we aptly renamed Marxism 101. A little squirrel of a man, Christopher Adams, a white man himself, pushed white guilt on use as if our salvation depended on it. Did I mention he pushed Chomsky on us and was a huge fan of Ward Churchill?

208 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:09:27pm

re: #191 CapeCoddah

Wasn't that "Kate & Allie?"

209 Salem  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:10:25pm

re: #202 Kosh's Shadow

You're right. And then there are probably some people from after I stopped watching.
Larraine Newman was in some bad science fiction movie for a few minutes.

Yeah, the Invaders from Mars sequel. That was a disappointing one.

210 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:10:33pm
211 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:10:38pm

re: #208 scottishbuzzsaw
Yse, Thats it. I think I was a teenager when that was on. Could not remember the name. Thanks.

212 bellamags  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:11:27pm

re: #179 Killgore Trout

That's terrible. If I was part of that film crew I don't know if I could have behaved. I probably would have ended up getting arrested for murder.

213 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:14:01pm

re: #211 CapeCoddah

It's been a long time since watching that one...I'm surprised my little gray cells could dig it up!

214 CapeCoddah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:15:35pm

re: #213 scottishbuzzsaw

Too long for me! brb, gotta feed the Mastiff, he is pulling me outta the chair!

215 maninthemiddle  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:15:36pm

Is vehemently disagreeing with those that would kill homosexuals a phobia?

Is vehemently disagreeing with misogynists that treat women as chattel a phobia?

Is opposing those that consider Jews monkeys and pigs to be exterminated a phobia?

Is resisting those that would eliminate free speech and discussion a phobia?

Is standing firm in the face of those that demand their religion predominate a phobia?

You get the idea. It has little to do with Muslims, and everything to do with Islamists.

Sometimes one must break ones opposition to its essence to receive a hearing from those far a port.

216 quickjustice  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:16:18pm

Condell does sarcasm and indignation well. Salt and pepper.

217 EC Marm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:17:30pm

re: #210 buzzsawmonkey

"The White Man's Burden" was written to welcome the United States to imperial responsibilities during the US's struggle with the Moro rebellion following the Spanish-American War.


Yes, but I initially came away from the work with the perception of negativity:

Take up the White Man's burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--


As one example.

218 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:18:46pm
219 markie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:18:50pm

While I'm not an Atheist, Pat always makes me smile. Nobody but a Brit could pull that off so well! So much truth, so much entertainment, all at once!

220 jcw46  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:38:28pm

re: #170 Kosh's Shadow

Fat guys on SNL and keyboard players for the Dead

What three words could have saved John Belushi's life?
No coke, Pepsi.

Well actually he was doin' a speedball (for you innocent lizards out there that's cocaine and heroin mixed together).

Also, I'm going to try and say this diplomatically cause maybe you all get the joke and maybe not; "cow-tipping" was originated as a way to get naive out-of-towners out into the "patty-filled pasture" for laughs and no one wants to admit they were made a fool of so the city-folks pretend like it was real and the story just keeps getting passed on. (also used as an excuse to authority on why you're running around late at night when you're supposed to be home). I was raised in farm country and worked a few dairy farms and trying to "tip a cow" is just not likely unless you're built like the HULK.

1. When they sleep they lie down. Oh they may doze standing up but believe me they know what's going on around them. (try, just try to sneak up on one and you'll find out).
2. Most 3-5 yr old cows weigh upwards of 800 to 1000 lbs. Not so easy to move let alone tip.
3. As someone noted above, most cows are fairly placid and will just move away from you but at night and disturbing their herd and rest ... well think how YOU'D feel and how ticked off you'd be.

Just sayin' :>

221 jcw46  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:43:03pm

re: #215 maninthemiddle

You get the idea. It has little to do with Muslims, and everything to do with Islamists.

Sometimes one must break ones opposition to its essence to receive a hearing from those far a port.


Hey, I'll admit it; I am Islamophobic.
I am definitely afraid of zealots and death cultists cause I kind of like living and I'm afraid that Islam is full of both.

222 EC Marm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:47:01pm

re: #218 buzzsawmonkey

Kipling is merely recognizing that bearing responsibility is a thankless task.


Neither of my college majors required much reading beside extremely esoteric technical/professional material so it was only in the past year that I read WMB. The parallels between the section I quoted above and the ongoing/end result of the Iraq rescue was what immediately struck me when I read it. It just seems odd that a writer that was ostensively in favor of the U.S. entering the conflict decided to use such a realistic/fatalistic brush to paint the work.

/Do I use too many "/"s?

223 silversmith  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 3:57:09pm

re: #190 jcw46

Dude,
I am in that group of 45 million americans who cannot afford to pay for health insurance but pay cash instead. I am personally offended every time they charge me the same dollar they charge the insurance companies when I am a cash customer. Insurance is just a racket like gambling and other types of racheteering and it drives up the cost for everyone. 45 million--45 with a bunch of zeros--can't afford to pay off the man or can not or will not work a meaningless job just for the benifits.

I am glad for you if you have some cush job that pays well and has health care, just don't knock those of us that are not so fortunate.

Don't call us illegal aliens either. The insurance system is inherently corrupt and is failing on it's own. It a system that doesn't need fixing, it need elimination as does the monopoly of the AMA. Perhaps Mr McCain should talk about this and whup Mr Obama in the elections.

Just a thought

224 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:04:33pm
225 GeeWiz  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:31:53pm

re: #219 markie

While I'm not an Atheist, Pat always makes me smile. Nobody but a Brit could pull that off so well! So much truth, so much entertainment, all at once!

While I may not agree with everything Pat says, I find his rants to be a sane voice in an ever-growing insane world of PC BS.

226 ornery elephant  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:33:37pm

re: #25 MandyManners

I'll say a prayer for Pat.

LOL Mandy

I've oftened wondered about Pat Condell. His #1 passion in life is his attack on religion and G_d. This sidejob he does against the islamofascists - I often wonder if Pat really hates the jihadists and the islamists for their fascist, terroristic ways or if he is more angry that much of the world regards islam as a religion.

227 GeeWiz  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:36:32pm

re: #226 ornery elephant

I often wonder if Pat really hates the jihadists and the islamists for their fascist, terroristic ways or if he is more angry that much of the world regards islam as a religion.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend".

228 Mongerel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 4:46:54pm

This is very cool: you can subscribe to Pat on iTunes (just search for Pat Condell and his podcast comes right up).

229 docremulac  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:09:30pm

A man with balls who thinks for himself.

Don't see that a lot these days.

230 jcw46  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 5:51:31pm

re: #223 silversmith
apparently you didn't continue on to the link or you would realize I was quoting what was said in the article.
I called no one illegal. I said that the health care obama was touting would mostly go to the illegals.
I don't have a cush job. I don't have health insurance.

I think you're another of these folks that registered a year ago and are just now popping up give people agita. I don't think you did think before you posted. socialist government-paid-for medicine leads to rationing and less medical care. Look around the world and really, really read about what they have and that their system is a worse failure than ours and tell me we need socialist medical care.

comment again when you're prepared better and read what I said instead of what you feel or think I said.

231 gmsc  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:26:14pm

re: #21 Charles

Pat Condell's view of "intelligent design:"

[Link: youtube.com...]

His theory is wrong! My proof? I'm horrible at sniffing out truffles. How do you explain that?

232 Scrub  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 6:35:56pm

I've been a big fan of Pat Condell ever since I found his videos on Liveleak. And I'm always stoked when he has a new vid.

233 eclectic infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 7:41:27pm

re: #59 winston06

This guy is still a Leftist

There's nothing wrong with that so long as he's able to think critically and question his own assumptions.

Mr. Condell strikes me more of a liberal centrist, but that is strictly my own opinion.

I'm commenting because I personally know Pro-Israel Zionists who also identify as leftist. Might sound like an oxymoron to some, but it's a reality.

234 uptight  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:15:15pm

The "swimming pool" example is a masterpiece of simple illustration.

Muslims can ban non-Muslims from a session at a public swimming pool.
It's not racist intolerance, because Islam is not a race. Banning non-Muslims is merely religious doctrine.

However, if you criticise this doctrine, then you are an intolerant racist because language can be made into whatever people want it to be made into.

Imagine a slightly different scenario, in which Meo-Nazis had a special "no blacks" day at the pool.

It's difficult enough to imagine a municipal facility allowing such flagrant racism, but in your wildest fantasies can you imagine the NAACP or the ACLU being vilified and branded as racists for not respecting the views of Neo-Nazis?

No doubt some readers would brand me a racist, Islamophobic bigot for likening Neo-Nazism with this small microcosm of Islam, but if both groups seek segregation surely it doesn't really matter if the motive is political or religious ideology.

If that were the case, then the Neo-Nazis would receive the same "protected species" status as Muslims, simply by declaring their views to be a religion.

Of course, that would not wash with the left, but who said they were consistent?

Remember - everyone is free slam the hell out of Christianity, Mormonism and Scientology, even though - like Islam - they are religions. You can even slam the jews as long as you remember to call them "Zionists".

So why are Muslims protected against any criticism. Why are its detractors branded racism (even when they are criticising Islamic racism)?

Easy.

Because, with us being at war with fundamentalist Muslims, white guilt instantly by-passes any logic or argument and automatically makes Islam the "victim" in any circumstances where it runs up against Western values. The Self-hating left will take any side as long as it is against ours.

Remember this, any time anyone accuses you of Islamophobia. Try to picture them defending wife beaters or gay bashers with the same gusto. Try to imagine a special "phobia" word being invented to inhibit criticism of Neo-Nazis. Then walk away - safe in the knowledge that it is those creeps that are the bad guys. They are Vichy.

235 Rkrocket  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:49:36pm

Pat Condell. Nevah hoyd of 'im... but I LIKE him!

236 winston06  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:56:16pm

re: #233 eclectic infidel

There's nothing wrong with that so long as he's able to think critically and question his own assumptions.

Mr. Condell strikes me more of a liberal centrist, but that is strictly my own opinion.

I'm commenting because I personally know Pro-Israel Zionists who also identify as leftist. Might sound like an oxymoron to some, but it's a reality.

No problem there. I know tons of pro-Israel liberals.

237 GCPSteve  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:29:55am

Garden City Park Steve here.

I LOVE THIS GUY!

238 MJBrutus  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:19:38am

I love listening to Pat. What a place we've come to when the slightest breath of fresh air comes to us with such rarity! I fear that sanity is on the run and mankind has slipped the surly bonds of reason for good.

239 paybacktime  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:59:04am

Pat Condell AKHBAR!

Pat buchanon, nazi pig, DROP DEAD!

240 Jimmah  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:25:20am

Pat Condell just keeps getting better!


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