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A Rathergate Movie?

Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:39:52 pm PDT

If they’re really going to make a movie about the Rathergate scandal, and base it on the ludicrous book by moonbat pseudo-journalist Mary Mapes, it’s going to be a bad joke.

The Media Mob has learned that a team of Hollywood insiders is currently working on a screen adaptation of Truth And Duty: The Press, the President, and the Privilege of Power—the 2005 book by former CBS News producer Mary Mapes, in which she defends the 60 Minutes II story by Dan Rather about President George W. Bush’s time in the Texas Air National Guard, which ran on CBS in September 2004 and eventually led to her ouster from the network.

Who would want to turn “Rathergate” into a feature-length film?

According to sources familiar with the situation, Producer Mikkel Bondesen, (his credits include serving as executive producer on the USA Network series “Burn Notice”) is actively working on the adaptation with screenwriter James Vanderbilt.

Mr. Vanderbilt wrote the screenplay for the 2007 serial killer movie Zodiac—based on the nonfiction book by Robert Graysmith—and is currently writing the screenplay for Spider-Man 4.

In the book, Ms. Mapes was highly critical of how her bosses at CBS and Viacom handled the aftermath of the wildly controversial story about President Bush’s military service. Along the way, she lays much of the groundwork for what could be a juicy White House conspiracy thriller.

“Money is the master,” wrote Ms. Mapes. “That is the bottom line to what happened at CBS that fateful fall when we aired a story that, like all stories, was imperfect, but was absolutely grounded in fact. It was well researched and well documented. But when Viacom saw that the story was not well received and that a conservative firestorm was threatening the corporation’s financial well-being, their collective wallets started itching. As a result, I believe CBS News, 60 Minutes, Dan Rather, and journalism itself got badly scratched.”

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1 Mich-again  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:40:40pm

Charles, you will be the villain. You'll need a Mustache and a cape.

2 RTLM  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:42:14pm

Lets see the casting call for that!

3 cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:42:25pm

I nominate Daniel Craig to play Charles!

4 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:42:38pm

Who's going to play Charles? My favorites are Gary Busey and Nick Nolte. Remember this is a hollywood production; Boss will be the villain.

5 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:42:57pm
6 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:43:40pm

This is Hilarious! It has to be a comedy, with Bette Midler as Mary Mapes..

7 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:15pm

re: #3 cicero05

I nominate Daniel Craig to play Charles!

Gerard Butler is my first choice, but I could definitely live with Daniel Craig. :D

8 cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:16pm

re: #6 Yankee Division Son

This is Hilarious! It has to be a comedy, with Bette Midler as Mary Mapes..

Dead on!

9 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:34pm

She still "believes".

Proof that for some, the Myth is what is most real.

10 RTLM  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:36pm

...straight to video with that bomb.

11 cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:45pm

Would Jerry Springer take the role of Gunga Dan?

12 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:44:56pm

Susan Sarandon will play Mary Mapes.

13 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:45:07pm

re: #5 Catttt

Gerard Butler could play Charles!

He would need some hair extensions.

14 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:45:24pm

These Hollywood types, they all run around in a big circle and convince each other of their own views.

Feh.

Make-believe is their profession,

don't ask them about reality.

15 tommygum  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:45:40pm

Dumb beotch

16 Charles  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:45:47pm

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

17 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:46:01pm

re: #4 Killgore Trout

I say Daniel Day Lewis- he was good in Gangs of New York.

18 mbruce  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:46:05pm

I feel a throbbing headache coming on just thinking abou tit.

19 Ojoe  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:46:27pm

re: #1 Mich-again

And fangs.

Glinting fangs.

20 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:46:50pm

If there's ever a movie staring Kos it's going to have to be Steve Buscemi

21 gymnast  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:46:55pm

The perfect title for the project would be "Dan Rather and the Cluster Fuck".

22 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:47:15pm

re: #16 Charles

Nice choice.

23 cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:47:18pm

re: #16 Charles

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

Reptilian. I keep coming back to Hillary Clinton. Definitely wouldn't work.

24 mbruce  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:47:20pm

re: #16 Charles

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

Great choice, plus I hear tell he is a bit on the Right side of things.

25 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:47:24pm

re: #16 Charles

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

So does Gary Sinise.

26 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:47:37pm

I just hope they have a fairly good representation of the nitro chamber under Denver International.

27 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:47:41pm

marks my words
I have said it before and will say it again

this is all going to happen (the made-for-tv-movie and the trial between CBS and Dan Rather) in time for the election so they can get maximum anti-republican "coverage" from their partners in crime, the media

you can bet all the networks will be hyping the trial
and History and Discovery will run "specials" on 'the making of the anti Bush movie' as if it has some historic or mechanical importance that will make it "an event", like a Star Wars sequel/prequel

and why B. Hussein Obama and Reverend Wright must be stopped in November

28 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:47:46pm

Lets not confuse our myth with facts.

29 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:48:19pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

If there's ever a movie staring Kos it's going to have to be Steve Buscemi

I dinged you up on this. Spot on observation....

30 Kulhwch  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:48:31pm

Justin Hartley as the intrepid Charles Johnson?

}:)     [Ah, but who for Stinky Beaumont?  Bruce Campbell?]

31 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:48:44pm

re: #13 Syrah

He would need some hair extensions.

That can be done. :D

32 cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:48:59pm

Working title: "What's the Frequency, Kenneth!"

33 stevieray  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:49:07pm

Wanna bet these guys think they're making a new "All The President's Men"?

/dreaming of oscars!

34 Kulhwch  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:49:19pm

... and, of course, animatronic hamsters ...

}:)     [The Lizard Minion Horde to be CGA ... ]

35 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:49:36pm

Oldmanas Johnson. Not Bad.

36 cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:49:48pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

If there's ever a movie staring Kos it's going to have to be Steve Buscemi

Steve Buscemi's great and I think you insulted him.

37 RTLM  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:49:55pm

Daniel Day Lewis to play Dan Rather.

38 Macker  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:50:03pm

re: #16 Charles

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

But does he know the score?

39 415woman  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:50:04pm

Well, another great dramatic movie that no one will flock to see, from the same intellegent folks that brought you all the Iraq war movies that no one went to see. Ah, ya gotta love Hollywood! Like all liberals, they never learn.

40 astronmr20  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:50:09pm

re: #16 Charles

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

Yes!

41 de La Valette  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:50:12pm

How is ASTRA/SAG going to handle Charles cut?

42 radford  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:50:24pm

What are they going to call this thing?

"The Dork Night"?

Ah, just more proof of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Although, without the throbbing .gif, there is no truth to the movie, but, I wouldn't be holding my breath for any sort of consultancy fee Mr. Johnson.

43 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:50:27pm

quick Charles, Trademark the "Rathergate" term and make some money off the moonbats!

I mean, there wouldn't be a movie with out you.

44 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:50:59pm

re: #32 cicero05

Working title: "What's the Frequency, Kenneth!"

The movie's soundtrack is ready to go.

45 Mich-again  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:51:07pm

My own underground theory of Rathergate is that Billy Jeff Clinton staffers scanned FBI files of GOP politicians using optical character recognition software that converted them into Word files instead of saving them as pdf's. Which of course made them totally useless unless you admit you scanned FBI files illegally.

46 cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:51:44pm

The Mapes of Wrath

47 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:52:05pm
Producer Mikkel Bondesen, (his credits include serving as executive producer on the USA Network series “Burn Notice”) is actively working on the adaptation with screenwriter James Vanderbilt.

Jeffrey Donovan is HOT.

48 barry the baptist  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:52:14pm

Charles should be portrayed as Darth Vader in this movie.

49 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:52:17pm

re: #47 MandyManners

Jeffrey Donovan is HOT.

*whack*

50 Mich-again  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:52:40pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

If there's ever a movie staring Kos it's going to have to be Steve Buscemi

Not bad, but I think Mr. Bean would make a better Markos.

51 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:52:41pm

it may be as popular as the St. Pancake play.

52 Muadib  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:52:41pm

I can hardly wait to not see this movie.

53 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:53:05pm

re: #4 Killgore Trout

Who's going to play Charles?


Fabio.re: #35 Killgore Trout

Oldmanas Johnson. Not Bad.


Howabout Fabio as Johnson?

54 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:53:16pm

But if they use the throbbing memo, will Charles get any royalties?

55 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:53:26pm

re: #46 cicero05

The Mapes of Wrath

ROTATING TITLE! ROTATING TITLE! ROTATING TITLE!

56 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:53:48pm

Oldman - excellent choice - but I'd still rather (no pun intended) watch Gerard Butler.

57 songbird  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:54:06pm

re: #53 Ringo the Gringo

Howabout Fabio as Johnson?

I just about fell over on that one!

58 Mich-again  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:54:18pm

re: #54 Sharmuta

They won't use the throbbing memo. It would hurt their cause.

59 Schwarze Tulpe  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:54:20pm

Guys, guys, judging by the already established slant of this proposed movie project, our man Charles will be likely played by Danny Devito reprising his role as "The Penguin."

60 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:54:27pm

re: #11 cicero05

Would Jerry Springer take the role of Gunga Dan?

I pictured Ted Knight as Dan Rather..

61 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:54:32pm

Do you all really feel that Mary Mapes still believes that the memo is real? How can some one, when shown conclusively fake documents deny their counterfeit reality?

62 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:54:52pm

On the serious side.

The moving picture has a tremendous power to make Myth more real then reality.

How many people do we all know who know what little they know from what they have seen in the movies or on TV?

63 songbird  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:54:57pm

re: #58 Mich-again

They won't use the throbbing memo. It would hurt their cause.

Maybe they could use it in the background during the credits.

64 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:55:14pm

re: #55 MandyManners

ROTATING TITLE! ROTATING TITLE! ROTATING TITLE!

I SECOND!

65 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:55:30pm

Charles will get royalties for the throbbing memo, they can't leave that out.

66 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:55:38pm

Who's going to play Obama?
Will Smith?

67 cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:55:38pm

Dan Flew Out of the Cuckoo's Nest?

68 Mich-again  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:56:05pm

Any other Rathergate Lizards still around?

69 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:56:38pm

Time out for hurl alert:

He will be in Berlin this Thursday, when Germans will hail him as a magician with the ability to transform a gloomy world into a brighter place. Never before has there been so much excitement in Germany over the visit of a presumed US presidential candidate. Obama may be running for the White House, but judging by the commotion, one would think that he had already advanced two steps further and were the president of the world

.
[Link: www.spiegel.de...]

And now Dan joins the ranks of the rather confused, as he calls the presumptive Dem nominee Usama bin Laden in an interview....
and he doesn't retract it.
Where's the outrage?

70 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:56:40pm

re: #61 pingjockey

Do you all really feel that Mary Mapes still believes that the memo is real? How can some one, when shown conclusively fake documents deny their counterfeit reality?

Some people are willing to believe all sorts of things.

71 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:56:46pm

Who would want to turn “Rathergate” into a feature-length film?

Enemies of America?

72 cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:57:01pm

The movie will have to be in 3D to get the full throbbing memo effect.

73 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:57:08pm

Dude. I can't wait to not see this. Speaking of moonbatty films, whatever happend to the "Mother Sheehan" biopic?

Kilgore Trout,

If there's ever a movie staring Kos it's going to have to be Steve Buscemi

Nah. John Cryer will play Kos.

74 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:57:38pm

re: #70 Sharmuta
Mary Mapes' Mantra:
' Fake-but-accurate'.

75 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:57:57pm

re: #68 Mich-again

Any other Rathergate Lizards still around?

I was hatched at the start of rathergate..

76 DesertSage  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:58:11pm

OK astronmr20, why did you give me the down ding? Explain yourself.

77 DistantThunder  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:58:13pm

re: #49 MandyManners

*whack*

The man is totally hot. New heart throb.

78 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:58:18pm

re: #70 Sharmuta
Damn your eyes! :) Note, been reading Alexander Kent sailing yarns.

79 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:58:33pm

I wonder if this Mapes escapade will make the film....

In the winter of 1987, officers announced themselves and knocked on the door of a known Seattle drug den. They then heard some noise and forced themselves in when no one answered the door. A low-level drug dealer named Erdman Bascomb stood up with a dark, shiny object in his hand. An officer fired, Bascomb fell, and officers pounced on the "weapon": a black TV remote control. Bascomb died.

The Bascomb shooting angered many people in Seattle, and officials quickly organized an inquest. Then KIRO aired an incendiary story titled "A Shot in the Dark," in which a previously unknown witness named Wardell Fincher accused the cops involved in the raid of lying. He said he saw officers arrive at the house, burst in with no warning and shoot Bascomb, who might not have even known the intruders were cops. The story shifted to possible criminal wrongdoing by the police. Mr. Fincher was summoned to the inquest, and previous witnesses recalled. The reporter for the sensational segment was Mark Wrolstad, now a reporter with the Dallas Morning News. The producer was his wife, Mary Mapes.

Fortunately for the cops, Mr. Fincher wasn't the only one at the scene of the raid that night. A reporter for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, Mike Barber, was tagging along with officers. Mr. Barber observed the officers arriving at the house, knocking, announcing themselves and then entering. He was there when the shooting happened and when the ambulances were summoned. At that point, a man "reeking of alcohol" walked out of some nearby bushes and approached him. He wanted to know what had just happened. That was Wardell Fincher. But Mr. Fincher wasn't thoroughly checked out, so all this came out after the story aired. The police were eventually cleared but it took years and an unsuccessful civil-rights lawsuit by the Bascomb family to undo the damage.

80 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:58:34pm

re: #75 Yankee Division Son

I was here.
A proud, proud moment.

81 SteveC  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:59:08pm
Mr. Vanderbilt wrote the screenplay for the 2007 serial killer movie Zodiac—based on the nonfiction book by Robert Graysmith—and is currently writing the screenplay for Spider-Man 4.

Damn. I like Spidey. :(

82 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:59:21pm

Hey Charles, don't you think this post deserves a throbbing memo reprint?

83 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:59:24pm

re: #2 RTLM

Lets see the casting call for that!

I don't know if I can pull off a good villain, but I can certainly play the heavy...

84 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:59:49pm
Any other Rathergate Lizards still around?

Yup. Proud lizard since the fall of 2002.

85 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 8:59:50pm

re: #50 Mich-again

Kal Penn might work, as well.......

86 Mich-again  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:00:31pm

Bubble Girl could be Lucy Ramirez.

87 mikalm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:00:42pm

They should have cameo appearances by big stars playing individual Lizards. I want Christian Slater to play me (people say I look a little like him...)

88 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:01:07pm

re: #26 Sharmuta

I just hope they have a fairly good representation of the nitro chamber under Denver International.

With their money? They'll likely make it look even more sinister!

89 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:01:10pm

re: #77 DistantThunder

The man is totally hot. New heart throb.

Oh, he's beyond hot.

While I appreciate the more pronounced muscles of some, I also appreciate Donovan's body.

90 DistantThunder  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:01:14pm

Mary mapes can be played by Rosie.

91 Carridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:01:15pm

Get me a copy of Mapes' book, and I WILL DELIVER A FUNNY, SARCASTIC Screenplay (or at least, Treatment and Sample Scenes) within 30 days!

Nic here is BLUE,
put "Mapes" or "Rathergate" in the Subject line...

/We'll make a million dollar$

92 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:01:46pm

re: #88 PSGInfinity

With their money? They'll likely make it look even more sinister!

Good! Fear the football!

93 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:01:51pm

re: #66 DesertSage

Who's going to play Obama?
Will Smith?

Djimon Hounsou - NOT! :D (He's too - too - too to play Barry)

94 DistantThunder  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:02:00pm

re: #89 MandyManners

Oh, he's beyond hot.

While I appreciate the more pronounced muscles of some, I also appreciate Donovan's body.

His cool is hot ....

95 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:02:15pm

re: #68 Mich-again
It has been 4 years, OMG. Was a reader then, never could seem to catch the open registration.

96 DistantThunder  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:02:26pm

re: #93 Catttt

Djimon Hounsou - NOT! :D (He's too - too - too to play Barry)

Steve ERckle

97 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:03:02pm

re: #37 RTLM

Daniel Day Lewis to play Dan Rather.

He can certainly pull off the fantasy...

98 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:03:45pm

re: #77 DistantThunder

The man is totally hot. New heart throb.

[Link: www.hunkdujour.com...]

99 Mich-again  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:03:55pm

re: #84 Dirk Diggler

I first came here in a Drudge Wave early in Rathergate and pretty much hung out here every waking minute until I caught open registration.

100 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:04:05pm

Rathergate is why I'm here. Came to talk about the (Royal manual) typewriters I used working for the Feds in the 70s - ended up a lizardoid (ette?).

101 Cartman  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:04:14pm

AlGore will play the flying manbearpig.

102 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:04:21pm

They better get Peter Jackson to direct it. He is used to directing fantasy.

103 mikalm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:04:34pm

re: #95 pingjockey

I'd been a Lizard for just a couple of months when Rathergate hit. Truth be known, that's what melded me to the LGF community -- I was so blown away by seeing the story here first, and participating in it along with this intelligent and incisive crowd, that I couldn't leave.

104 mighty mouse  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:04:41pm

They will never let the facts get in the way of telling their (only) side of a story, Truth be damned full speed ahead.

105 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:04:42pm

re: #92 Sharmuta

Good! Fear the football!

More specifically, Fear the Turtle!

106 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:04:57pm

re: #101 Cartman
Mwahahahahaha!

107 astronmr20  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:04:57pm

re: #65 jcm

Charles will get royalties for the throbbing memo, they can't leave that out.

They can, and they probably will.

108 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:05:28pm

re: #16 Charles

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

"The Fifth Element" Gary Oldman, or "Harry Potter" Gary Oldman?

The code is light. Format is adjustable for easy configuration, reload is in less than half a second for most browsers. Three thousand page views per second with busts up to thirty thousand for Fark surges...

109 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:05:29pm

re: #101 Cartman
Get Ron Jeremy to play Billy Jeff.

110 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:05:33pm

re: #96 DistantThunder

Steve ERckle

Perfect.

Barry and Barney Fife - separated at birth?

111 mattm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:06:00pm
That is the bottom line to what happened at CBS that fateful fall when we aired a story that, like all stories, was imperfect, but was absolutely grounded in fact. It was well researched and well documented. But when Viacom saw that the story was not well received and that a conservative firestorm was threatening the corporation’s financial well-being, their collective wallets started itching. As a result, I believe CBS News, 60 Minutes, Dan Rather, and journalism itself got badly scratched.

What fact? A forged document made with Word? If, and I do mean IF a real document existed, that would be a story. The couldn't find said documents so they made one up. Journalism got badly scratched because CBS used fake documents to help their candidate.

112 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:06:22pm

re: #77 DistantThunder

The man is totally hot. New heart throb.

Well, now.

Nummy.

113 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:06:22pm

re: #39 415woman

Well, another great dramatic movie that no one will flock to see, from the same intellegent folks that brought you all the Iraq war movies that no one went to see. Ah, ya gotta love Hollywood! Like all liberals, they never learn.

Why learn, when you know it all? And how can they pass up a chance to preach to their betters bumpkinish brethren?

114 astronmr20  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:06:23pm

re: #108 Pawn of the Oppressor

You are sounding like a hybrid from Battlestar Galactica...

115 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:06:34pm

re: #101 Cartman

AlGore will play the flying manbearpig.

You mean Les Moonves, don't you..

116 Carridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:06:42pm

re: #107 astronmr20

They can, and they probably will.

All the more reason to write a Screenplay of our own, throbbing memos and all... you know, Astronomr, that 'Truthiness' thingie?

117 inquisitive  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:06:52pm

Was going to go and read for awhile...but, but, but,.....keep those pics a coming ! Thank you Mandy, Catt, Ringo, and others......

118 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:07:37pm

re: #47 MandyManners

Jeffrey Donovan is HOT.

We'll take your word for it. :)

119 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:07:40pm

re: #107 astronmr20
Oh yes. This will be the story of the heroic journalists against the evil right wing blogosphere. Plus, the evil ChimpyMcBushHalliburton cabal.

120 freedombilly  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:07:58pm

Ms. Mapes' defense of Rather resembled that of last year's Miami Dolphins. Porous and pretty funny to watch.

121 TheWasteLand  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:08:04pm

Planet of the Mapes

Starring Charleston Heston.

"Take your stinking word document off me you damn dirty Mapes."

122 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:08:41pm

re: #121 TheWasteLand

Planet of the Mapes

Starring Charleston Heston.

"Take your stinking word document off me you damn dirty Mapes."

ROTFLMAO

123 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:09:20pm

re: #121 TheWasteLand
Oh Damn! Ahahahahaha!

124 Cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:09:31pm

Raging Bullshit

125 freedombilly  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:09:55pm

re: #119 pingjockey

"Evil right blogosphere" is redundant to these people.

126 freedombilly  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:10:31pm

re: #121 TheWasteLand

That is the funniest thing I've read in these parts in a very, very long time.

127 Macker  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:12:23pm

re: #124 Cicero05

Raging Bullshit

Nomination for rotating title...with appropriate changes of course!

128 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:12:35pm

Hey all.

129 Paul  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:12:53pm

Liberals never give up, never admit they're wrong, never stop re-writing the narrative.

130 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:13:24pm

re: #121 TheWasteLand

Planet of the Mapes

Starring Charleston Heston.

"Take your stinking word document off me you damn dirty Mapes."

131 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:13:27pm

re: #61 pingjockey

Do you all really feel that Mary Mapes still believes that the memo is real? How can some one, when shown conclusively fake documents deny their counterfeit reality?

She's too far into a corner. She even admits doubt, she opens up a whole can of whoopa$$ that a skilled lawyer might fillet her with.

Also, Syrah's #9 comment bears on this:

"She still "believes".
Proof that for some, the Myth is what is most real."
132 aunursa  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:13:33pm

The Mapes of WRather

133 DistantThunder  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:14:13pm

For Mandy

[Link: jeffreydonovanfans.com...]

134 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:14:35pm

re: #93 Catttt

In Barry's weet dreams!

135 The Other Les  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:14:49pm

re: #45 Mich-again

My own underground theory of Rathergate is that Billy Jeff Clinton staffers scanned FBI files of GOP politicians using optical character recognition software that converted them into Word files instead of saving them as pdf's. Which of course made them totally useless unless you admit you scanned FBI files illegally.

So they were just being stupid?

136 freedombilly  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:14:52pm

re: #129 Paul

Liberals never give up, never admit they're wrong, never stop re-writing the narrative.

The litigious legacy of the 2000 election would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

137 BGOH  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:15:01pm

re: #73 Dirk Diggler

Dude. I can't wait to not see this. Speaking of moonbatty films, whatever happend to the "Mother Sheehan" biopic?

Kilgore Trout,

Nah. John Cryer will play Kos.

And the film will be called How A Whiney, Hateful Bitch Created An Army of Mental Midgets and Anti-Semites.

They may need to shorten the title a bit, but you get the idea.

138 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:15:09pm

Charles should get royalties.

139 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:15:13pm

re: #131 PSGInfinity
Does Gunga Dan AKA Kenneth still have his lawsuit against SeeBS?

140 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:15:26pm

class
claasss
claaaassss


shut up !


they're not going to even mention the fake doc's

this is going to be as if it was all real

question is, who is going to play Bush in the guard
and who will be his supervisor, who won't whitewash his grades

141 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:15:47pm

re: #133 DistantThunder

For Mandy

[Link: jeffreydonovanfans.com...]

THANK YOU!

142 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:15:52pm

re: #90 DistantThunder

Mary mapes can be played by Rosie.

Well deserved, I might add...

143 The Other Les  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:16:10pm

re: #48 barry the baptist

Charles should be portrayed as Darth Vader in this movie.

Charles should be portrayed as Lizardroid. (CGI designed by John Cox.)

144 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:16:34pm

re: #107 astronmr20

They can, and they probably will.

I wonder if they'll talk about GWB accruing 952 service points in 6 years, when only 300 are required. Or that in '72 the year of the memo he had 52, when 50 where required. Or in '68 all the F-102s where state side while GWB qualified in '69. That by '72 the -102 was being phased out and turned into target drones and with 'Nam winding down -102 drivers where being RIFed.

But then again... facts don't matter.

145 Winslow  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:16:38pm

Oh Danny boy, Ms. Mapes, Ms. Mapes is calling;
The two of you, a lovely couple make,
For Mary girl is equally delusional,
And such dementia’s very hard to fake.

146 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:17:26pm

Leo Dicaprio as Bush
his supervisor can be Michael Moore
I can see fatso muching on a double whopper

"I will not rate that smug little prick"
or something

147 The Other Les  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:17:33pm

re: #60 Yankee Division Son

I pictured Ted Knight as Dan Rather..

I think Ted Knight is no longer with us existentially speaking.

148 DistantThunder  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:18:07pm

re: #141 MandyManners

THANK YOU!

Enabling your addiction......

149 Cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:18:19pm

re: #144 jcm

I wonder if they'll talk about GWB accruing 952 service points in 6 years, when only 300 are required. Or that in '72 the year of the memo he had 52, when 50 where required. Or in '68 all the F-102s where state side while GWB qualified in '69. That by '72 the -102 was being phased out and turned into target drones and with 'Nam winding down -102 drivers where being RIFed.

But then again... facts don't matter.

Do you really think that anyone involved in this picture will even have a clue about what an F-102 is? They'll probably film it with biplanes.

150 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:18:32pm

re: #39 415woman

Well, another great dramatic movie that no one will flock to see, from the same intellegent folks that brought you all the Iraq war movies that no one went to see. Ah, ya gotta love Hollywood! Like all liberals, they never learn.

This no doubt is designed to capitalize on Obama's tremendous victory in the 2008 presidential election, just as the Iraq war turkeys were intended to capitalize on the ignominious defeat and withdrawal the Hollywoodists expected the American forces to have suffered by the time the movies were released.

151 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:18:44pm

they'll likely even have Jennifer Anniston playing Laura Bush
and running over and killing her classmate

152 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:18:50pm

re: #112 MandyManners

ahem

153 solomonpanting  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:19:22pm
47 MandyManners

Producer Mikkel Bondesen, (his credits include serving as executive producer on the USA Network series “Burn Notice”) is actively working on the adaptation with screenwriter James Vanderbilt.


Also

Mr. Vanderbilt wrote the screenplay for the 2007 serial killer movie Zodiac—based on the nonfiction book by Robert Graysmith—and is currently writing the screenplay for Spider-Man 4.

Spider-Man 4 will contain more truth and realism than Rather's story.

154 Palandine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:19:24pm

Good Lord, is no one associated with this film considering its carbon footprint? Will no one think of The Children? The poor polar bears? The pathetic dead baby penguins?

There's a non-chain bookstore I really don't go into anymore except to look at the used books downstairs. To get there, you have to go through their main floor, which is stocked I would guess 25% with pure BDS. The poor, poor trees. Whole rainforests will grow back once Bush is out of office and the industry of BDS goes away.*

*Unless McCain wins, of course.

155 The Other Les  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:19:44pm

re: #61 pingjockey

Do you all really feel that Mary Mapes still believes that the memo is real? How can some one, when shown conclusively fake documents deny their counterfeit reality?

Ayn Rand called it willful evasion.

Some people simply refuse to accept the fact that they're not infallible.

156 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:20:14pm

re: #49 MandyManners

*whack*

Mandy, if you were male, I would say you were wacking yourself off. :)

157 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:20:37pm

re: #149 Cicero05

Do you really think that anyone involved in this picture will even have a clue about what an F-102 is? They'll probably film it with biplanes.

LOL!
Or that driving a -102 was more dangerous than say, oh, for example being on a swift boat in Vietnam for 3 months.

158 Sharmuta  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:21:30pm

I think they're playing with fire with this idea, and it could damage them more than "rewrite" the narrative. I predict LGF and the blogosphere will get no mention at all in this movie, because that might lead people to look up those sites when the leave the theatre. How counterproductive would that be?

159 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:21:37pm

re: #148 DistantThunder

Enabling your addiction......

I declare, it's just a hobby. Dammit. Don't you dare say otherwise.

160 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:22:39pm

re: #152 ggt

ahem

Nice, too.

161 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:22:40pm

re: #129 Paul

Liberals never give up, never admit they're wrong, never stop re-writing the narrative.

Literally a violation of their religious principles....

162 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:22:55pm

WEll, what I want to know is HOW ANYONE can possibly win the Advanced (4 suit) Spider solitaire. I've been playing all night and am getting no where.

163 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:23:43pm

re: #146 Adrenalyn

Leo Dicaprio as Bush
his supervisor can be Michael Moore
I can see fatso muching on a double whopper

"I will not rate that smug little prick"
or something

No they'll decide Leotard is too pretty and leftists for such an evil role.

I'm guessing they'll go cgi and create a young Peter Lorre, Tor Johnson, or maybe Bela Lugosi.

/They can't leave any doubt that Bush is a villain.

164 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:23:43pm

Such a pity...

/

But I have other plans for whichever weekend that movie opens in theaters.

Charles, the guys from Powerline, and everybody else involved in the outing will be portrayed as basement dwelling, mouth breathing, knuckle dragging kill-bots who receive Halliburton kickbacks from Karl Rove.

I can watch CNN for that and it doesn't cost a dime over the basic cable fee.

165 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:24:35pm

re: #155 The Other Les
willful evasion is polite. I, on the other hand am an unrecontructed anti-idiotarian and will call it what it is, lying bs. These assholes know these documents are fake and tried to pass them to the public as real to influence a presidential election. To me that is criminal and treasonous(i know treason is criminal) and they should all be fed to wild stoats and the remains scattered across upper Alberta.

166 pegcity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:25:08pm

i predict huge boxoffices for this pic, it might even break a hunderd dollars.

Audiences cant seem to get enough anti american movies, i mean so what if the boxoffice returns for everyone equals less than iron man made in a week

167 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:25:17pm

re: #151 Adrenalyn

they'll likely even have Jennifer Anniston playing Laura Bush
and running over and killing her classmate

I think they'll look for someone with a history of screaming, homely, shrewish characters.

/only half kidding

168 MandyManners  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:25:22pm

Gotta' go.

Sweet dreams!

169 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:25:23pm

re: #112 MandyManners

I'll see your shirtless Donovans and raise you one Josh Holloway...

170 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:25:40pm

re: #139 pingjockey

Does Gunga Dan AKA Kenneth still have his lawsuit against SeeBS?

Doubtful. After most of it got laughed out of court summarily dismissed they were down to a contractual technicality. IIRC, and frankly, it isn't worth either of our time to look it up.

171 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:26:19pm

Such cynicism. You haven't even seen the movie yet, or a preview. Just have patience and let the movie say whatever it says. It might surprise you. Really. Seriously. Urp.

172 Claire  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:26:36pm

re: #165 pingjockey

I completely agree with you and I'm not even sure what a wild stoat is......

173 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:26:43pm

re: #170 PSGInfinity
Ok. Didn't know he'd been laughed out of court. Heh.

174 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:27:27pm

re: #172 Claire
Weasel family, IIRC. Like the word.

175 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:29:34pm

re: #50 Mich-again

Nice pick.

176 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:29:35pm

Hey all y'all - Late to the party again, though this time in a great cause - possible breakthough in treatment for my kind of cancer! Found out about it from an LGFer who spotted it and sent it on to me! YEA LGF! LOL!
And getting ready to see the Oral Surgeon tomorrow to hopefully get some relief from this damn toothache pain.

177 baxtrice  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:29:59pm

Do they have their facts straight? Oh wait, nevermind, just make sh*t up and have lots of celebs and effects.

What? They do it all the time..

178 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:30:23pm

re: #176 realwest
That is fantastic news!

179 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:30:26pm

re: #176 realwest
Gah, what have I missed, other than what will no doubt be a story of lies and misdirection, made (if it is) just to make money!

180 Palandine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:30:30pm

re: #162 ggt

WEll, what I want to know is HOW ANYONE can possibly win the Advanced (4 suit) Spider solitaire. I've been playing all night and am getting no where.

I blame George Bush.

181 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:30:47pm

re: #156 Dark_Falcon

Mandy, if you were male, I would say you were wacking yourself off. :)

Naughty minds, and all that. I also think she's mentally rehearsing a lewd whack to his tushie...

182 Carridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:30:50pm

re: #164 AmeriDan
Agreed, and I wasn't kidding when I said, (above) 'Get me a copy of Mapes' book, either PDF or hard-copy, and I'll deliver a sizzling sarcastic, reality-based screenplay alternative that we might get to YouTUBE BEFORE or AS the RatherGate Slobbergate is showing, Dan!

/her book is hard to find in Bangkok, and I would ruin a couple days worth of free time just trying to find it here...

183 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:30:52pm

re: #166 pegcity

i predict huge boxoffices for this pic, it might even break a hunderd dollars.

Audiences cant seem to get enough anti american movies, i mean so what if the boxoffice returns for everyone equals less than iron man made in a week

Dan Rather will watch it 10 times?

184 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:31:22pm

re: #176 realwest

Hey all y'all - Late to the party again, though this time in a great cause - possible breakthough in treatment for my kind of cancer! Found out about it from an LGFer who spotted it and sent it on to me! YEA LGF! LOL!
And getting ready to see the Oral Surgeon tomorrow to hopefully get some relief from this damn toothache pain.

Good to hear.

185 radford  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:31:30pm

The screenplay was written back in 2004.

"My Teleprompter is Deadly"

Nice to see it finally get optioned.

Beers on Iowahawk.

186 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:31:56pm

re: #176 realwest

Happy Day!

187 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:32:05pm

re: #178 pingjockey
Yeah, it really is, but I'm trying NOT to get my hopes up too high just yet, but this British study (which apparently has also included a lot of men in the US) does seem to fit my profile - so it's kinda hard not to get excited! LOL!

188 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:32:09pm

re: #147 The Other Les

I think Ted Knight is no longer with us existentially speaking.

Too bad, he'd have been perfect... perhaps Herbert Lom, or

189 wolfie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:33:12pm

re: #165 pingjockey

To me that is criminal and treasonous(i know treason is criminal) and they should all be fed to wild stoats and the remains scattered across upper Alberta.

A stunning finale for the movie !

190 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:33:22pm

re: #176 realwest

Hey all y'all - Late to the party again, though this time in a great cause - possible breakthough in treatment for my kind of cancer! Found out about it from an LGFer who spotted it and sent it on to me! YEA LGF! LOL!
And getting ready to see the Oral Surgeon tomorrow to hopefully get some relief from this damn toothache pain.

WOOT!
Excellent news!

Just make sure you get online tomorrow when you're still loopy from the drugs and drooling because your mouth is still numb. We'll need some entertainment
/ ;-p

Good luck tomorrow and prayers for success and rapid recovery.

191 Malleus Dei  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:33:42pm

Despite absolute proof that the memos are 100% faked, the Left persists in their moronic mythology. If I wasn't a conservative already, the way these fools have dealt with the fake memos being exposed - lies, denial, and now, of all things, yet another 100% BS lefty vengeance movie out of Leftywood - would make me turn conservative.

Disgraceful doesn't even begin to cover it.

192 Carridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:33:57pm

re: #185 radford
Its good, (Iowahawk is GREAT!) I recorded parts of it, but we should have a screenplay based on Mapes' published memwahs, to screen a counterpoint to her self-serving drivel fantasy, Rad...

193 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:34:00pm

re: #188 Yankee Division Son

...Peter Finch?

194 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:34:09pm
195 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:34:18pm

re: #114 astronmr20

You are sounding like a hybrid from Battlestar Galactica...

End of line

/you evidently cannot picture Charles as Zorg demonstrating his server capabilities :)

196 pegcity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:34:25pm

Charles whip out the trobbing memo, you know u wanna.

197 freedombilly  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:34:41pm

re: #176 realwest

Possible relief for your tooth and most importantly your cancer in a 24 hour period?

I would say rw is on a role!

198 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:34:43pm

re: #173 pingjockey

Ok. Didn't know he'd been laughed out of court. Heh.

IANAL, but my understanding is that when all but the most technical count is summarily dismissed before the defense even presents, that's the legal equivalent of laughing it out of court.

Real lawyers, please feel very free to correct me.

199 Tarkus289  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:34:54pm

Cognitive dissonance.

200 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:35:31pm

re: #178 pingjockey

That is fantastic news!

WooHoo! {High Five}

201 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:35:31pm

re: #196 pegcity

Charles whip out the trobbing memo, you know u wanna.

Throbbing memo!

202 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:35:59pm

re: #184 Mars Needs Neocons Thanks, but see my#178 - still have to find out about getting into a clinical trial in the US and so trying - with mixed success - to not get too excited yet!
Wow, what a wonderful resource LGF has been for me - aside from making so many friends "I've never met" lots of folks out here are also e-mail "pen pals" and one of them sent the article to me. Gonna drop it off at my Oncologists office tomorrow before Oral surgery and try to e-mail it to the Prostate Cancer Clinic I went to at the end of April!

203 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:36:01pm

re: #194 Catttt
The wife has him in her top 5. Plus he's from Wales and so is she.

204 solomonpanting  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:36:03pm

re: #196 pegcity

Charles whip out the trobbing memo, you know u wanna.

I love it when you talk dirty.

205 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:36:07pm

re: #191 Malleus Dei

Doesn't matter if it's true or not, just plant all the seeds you can that create doubt and distrust. People might not believe any one thing that's said, but in their deep dark subconscious they are thinking, "wow there are a lot of red flags here". Just keep beating the drum.

206 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:36:26pm

re: #154 Palandine

Good Lord, is no one associated with this film considering its carbon footprint? Will no one think of The Children? The poor polar bears? The pathetic dead baby penguins?

There's a non-chain bookstore I really don't go into anymore except to look at the used books downstairs. To get there, you have to go through their main floor, which is stocked I would guess 25% with pure BDS. The poor, poor trees. Whole rainforests will grow back once Bush is out of office and the industry of BDS goes away.*

*Unless McCain wins, of course.

Silly. The energy to be used is all G*R*E*E*N! /

207 Bill M  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:36:38pm

re: #66 DesertSage

Who's going to play Obama?
Will Smith?

Gary Coleman

208 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:36:54pm

re: #171 cliffster

Such cynicism. You haven't even seen the movie yet, or a preview. Just have patience and let the movie say whatever it says. It might surprise you. Really. Seriously. Urp.

Is your comment directed at the last one I made?

littlegreenfootballs.com...] target="_blank">

Charles, the guys from Powerline, and everybody else involved in the outing will be portrayed as basement dwelling, mouth breathing, knuckle dragging kill-bots who receive Halliburton kickbacks from Karl Rove.

If so... I'll call your cynicism and raise you a bitter bible clinging.

/Urp x 2

209 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:37:26pm

re: #176 realwest

Great news, realwest..... seems like every day there is something new that they learn in the war on that disease, and more and more breakthroughs.
Get well soon.
Just had first (hope the last ) root canal ever, and the anticipation was worse than the reality, good luck with the oral surgeon.

210 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:37:44pm

re: #185 radford

Outstanding catch, ferreting out the Iowahawk screenplay!

211 Carridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:37:55pm

re: #201 jcm

Throbbing memo!

And it resides behind its linkie, upper left this very page, called "LGF Hits!"

212 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:38:28pm

re: #203 pingjockey

The wife has him in her top 5. Plus he's from Wales and so is she.

He's a fantastic (no pun on Fantasic Four intended) actor. And a hunk, of course. :D And Welsh. All plusses.

213 Tarkus289  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:38:31pm

re: #207 Bill M

Gary Coleman

Irkel (sp)

214 TheMotz  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:38:51pm

The part of Al Gore will be played by:

Al Gore

215 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:39:11pm

re: #186 Syrah Hey thanks Syrah - but only a potentially happy day (see my #202) cause I haven't heard from any of the Prostate Cancer Specialists - who are supposed to be Top of the Line about this yet, but article indicated it was in human trials now in GB and US and they expect it to be available for totally wide distribution by 2011 - just gotta hold on that long or get into a clinical trial HERE in time! WOOT!

216 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:39:12pm

re: #185 radford

The screenplay was written back in 2004.

"My Teleprompter is Deadly"

Nice to see it finally get optioned.

Beers on Iowahawk.

Iowahawk is a freaking genius

217 Carridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:39:56pm

re: #214 TheMotz
And on THAT note, Motz, I'm leaving for home...

/back as K

218 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:40:17pm

re: #190 jcm Thanks jcm!

219 pegcity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:40:17pm

Like the new yalk times Hollywood can't help but make anti american movies despite the fact they are 100% guaranteed to lose money.

It's like they make great movies like the Dark Knight and Iron man just so they can keep funding their political propaganda.

220 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:40:18pm

re: #208 AmeriDan

And I'll raise you one facetious and thow in a sarcastic. And while I'm at it, an adjective being used as a noun

221 Bill M  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:40:40pm

re: #68 Mich-again

Any other Rathergate Lizards still around?

I was here then. Four years ago. Hardly seems possible, does it?

222 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:41:05pm

re: #194 Catttt

Surely we can work Ioan Gruffudd in somewhere?

Perhaps as Buckhead, the Freeper who blew the whistle?

223 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:41:56pm

re: #197 freedombilly
Well, emphasis on possible freedombilly but it's the BEST possible news I've had in 3 years (for the cancer I mean)!

224 Carridine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:42:27pm

re: #221 Bill M

I was here then. Four years ago. Hardly seems possible, does it?

That was about MY time in... I still have about 23MB of disk space devoted to Rathergate... cartoons, recordings, jpeg, documents, timelines... the whole unraveling affair

225 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:42:42pm

re: #215 realwest

With hope, there is life.

226 freedombilly  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:43:50pm

re: #223 realwest

I am going to sleep now but I will be dreaming for your speedy recovery. It could be any one of us next and the fight you show is an inspiration to us all.

And good luck with that darn tooth!

Good night, Lizards. Play nice.

227 jcm  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:43:53pm

re: #211 Carridine

And it resides behind its linkie, upper left this very page, called "LGF Hits!"

Forgot about that one....

Later lizards checking out.

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
John F. Kennedy.

(O Where has the Democrat Party gone)

228 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:44:17pm

re: #207 Bill M Nah, Gary Coleman's ears are too small - I'd bet on Will Smith who is apparently already an acolyte of the Obamessiah anyway! LOL!

229 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:45:03pm

re: #182 Carridine

Agreed, and I wasn't kidding when I said, (above) 'Get me a copy of Mapes' book, either PDF or hard-copy, and I'll deliver a sizzling sarcastic, reality-based screenplay alternative that we might get to YouTUBE BEFORE or AS the RatherGate Slobbergate is showing, Dan!

/her book is hard to find in Bangkok, and I would ruin a couple days worth of free time just trying to find it here...

Carridine,

I hate to break it to you my friend, but political satire of the left is dead and buried. When Scott Ott (SRAPPLEFACE) makes more sense than an Obama speech... the party is over.

RIP

Besides, there is nothing funny about Obama- a man I hold in lower regard than Rather- as announced by the "People in the know".

230 Purple Prose  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:45:11pm

Truth is truth and lies are lies. Propaganda is a tool. I suppose propaganda could be used in the service of spreading truth, but it's usually used to spread lies. Dan Rather was wrong. He was duped. He should come out and admit it.

This is not an isolated thing. We live in an era where lies told consistently enough and with the collusion of the media become accepted reality. Look at the myth of Palestinian suffering or Islamophobia in the West.

You have Israel releasing a child-killer, Samir Kuntar, a brutal murderer of a 4-year old girl by smashing her skull in with the butt of his rifle, among others he killed. Yet this guy is given a heroes welcome in Lebanon and celebrated in the Islamic press. While the Western MSM doesn't care that much, it's so outrageous that even some of the liberal media have wondered what is going through the collective head of the State of Israel, trading corpses for live murderers. Yet the propaganda machine goes on. All in all, it's just a prisoner swap to the West, while in the Islamic world it's a huge coup - propaganda has made Kuntar into a hero and he will always be an Islamic hero. The West shrugs and moves on.

The truth is that killers are killers. The West, and Israel, which should know better for Pete's sake, has aided and abetted in the deification of a killer. Whatever he did does not matter anymore. He is a hero.

Until the Mossad kill him. That's the one theory I have heard that makes some sense. They let him go so they could assassinate him. That would send the right message to the Islamic world, which sees compromise as weakness and lies as lies that a gullible West will accept if it is repeated often enough. They would get the message if Kuntar is killed soon. But I am afraid that it will not happen.

The West has given up on distinguishing truth from untruth. How un-PC. That involves judgement, the cardinal sin of PC-dom. Even Israel has bought into this. Its doom may be sooner than the Europe or the US's, but it's a canary in the coal mine. I hope I am wrong.

231 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:46:15pm

re: #213 Tarkus289

No, it has to be the guy Jimmy whats-his-name from The Jeffersons.
Those ears.... that physique...
So switched-at-birth-esque.
Well, but for the voice.......

232 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:46:17pm

re: #228 realwest

Nah, Gary Coleman's ears are too small - I'd bet on Will Smith who is apparently already an acolyte of the Obamessiah anyway! LOL!

Ah, come on, Obambi wasn't even a player in the time of the story.
/of course when has that ever stopped the media.

In my research I found the perfect person to play John Kerry

233 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:47:30pm

re: #232 Mars Needs Neocons
Heh!

234 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:47:38pm

re: #220 cliffster

And I'll raise you one facetious and thow in a sarcastic. And while I'm at it, an adjective being used as a noun

Thems fightin words.

:)

235 Tarkus289  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:48:20pm

re: #231 tradewind

Believe it or not, JJ is a conservative...

236 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:48:24pm

re: #209 tradewind
Thanks tradewind, but I think tomorrow is just a consult which will probably result in the extraction of yet another tooth that had a bad root canal job done on it - but I know this Oral Surgeon well and I'm gonna push him to try to do something tomorrow!
The cancer news may or may not be great for me in particular, but it does seem to describe my situation exactly so it's hard not to get excited about it and it's not from some guy who stumbled on it, it's from Britains Premier Cancer Research Center.
Gotta stop getting so excited cause I really need to get to sleep sometime this morning! LOL!

237 Catttt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:48:27pm

My Siamese cat says it's time to go to bed. He's boss.

Goodnight.

238 Cicero05  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:48:39pm

re: #232 Mars Needs Neocons

Ah, come on, Obambi wasn't even a player in the time of the story.
/of course when has that ever stopped the media.

They'll show Obama at the time voting "present" in the Illinois legislature.

239 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:48:41pm

re: #221 Bill M

re: #68 Mich-again
Any other Rathergate Lizards still around?

I was here then. Four years ago. Hardly seems possible, does it?

Actually, I predate RaTHergate, although I only post episodically.
/Still miss reaganite and his wife, though.

240 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:48:42pm

re: #231 tradewind
Hah! The kid that said dyn-o-mite.

241 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:48:44pm

re: #180 Palandine

I was going to blame my Cat Overlord, but he came and sat next to me.

242 wanderer  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:48:56pm

Mary Apes and Hollyweird reviving the rathergate story is sheer folly at election time. The movie's appearance will remind the public of how the lamestream media constantly floats lies tosway elections for the lib left.

243 Tarkus289  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:49:01pm

re: #231 tradewind

oops, I thought you meant Jimmy Walker.

244 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:49:02pm

re: #232 Mars Needs Neocons

An insult to Easter Island stoners everywhere, Mars......

245 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:49:05pm

re: #232 Mars Needs Neocons

Ah, come on, Obambi wasn't even a player in the time of the story.
/of course when has that ever stopped the media.

In my research I found the perfect person to play John Kerry

Maybe, but I have someone even better. He maybe a Canadian but he would fit perfectly.

246 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:49:09pm

This could be great I can't wait to see how the movie turns out. We might discover that Bush lost the election and all his minions got hauled away to the jug. When you exit the theater it could be to a different world with no global warming and children who all read above grade level.

Or not.

247 wolfie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:49:33pm

re: #215 realwest

Don't you worry about getting "too excited."
Keep up the enthusiasm, RW ! Keep fighting !

248 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:49:54pm

re: #214 TheMotz Ah then you anticipate that this film will be shown in a Wide-Screen format, then?!

249 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:50:32pm

re: #233 pingjockey

Heh!

He can even act

250 wolfie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:50:37pm

re: #225 Syrah

With hope, there is life.

(Just wanted that repeated!)

251 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:50:46pm

re: #236 realwest

If you're anywhere near MD Anderson in TX, they're the best for that.
(cringing at ' bad root canal' ).
Sleep tight.

252 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:50:53pm

Al Gore will be played by the Goodyear airship Akron.

253 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:51:05pm

re: #238 Cicero05

They'll show Obama at the time voting "present" in the Illinois legislature.

LOL

254 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:51:30pm

re: #249 Mars Needs Neocons
Oh crap!

255 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:52:13pm

re: #244 tradewind
LOL
re: #245 BlueCanuck
With a little cgi, maybe they can get his face long and smug enough.

256 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:52:38pm

re: #230 Purple Prose

The Mossad needs to make "release, then cruelly slaughter" SOP.

In the Middle East, money talks, the willingness and ability to slaughter SHOUTS, and everything else can go pound sand.

They'll get the message, and respect the Israelis more to boot.

257 Viking6  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:52:48pm

re: #49 MandyManners

I thought self whacking was prohibited on this site.

258 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:52:58pm

re: #252 pingjockey

And a newly-blonde Kirstie Alley co-stars as Tipper.

259 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:53:04pm

re: #240 pingjockey

but, he wasn't on Jeffersons, he was on Good Times. Remember, the spin-off of the spin-off of All in the Family?

260 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:53:12pm

All this Rathergate stuff makes me think about wednesday after election day, when I got to wake up and see the snide and sanctimonious look gone from the faces of all the liberals who went into the previous day already rubbing my nose in Bush's coming defeat. Ahhhh, those were the days. Too risky to hope for the same thing this november?

261 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:53:15pm

re: #232 Mars Needs Neocons

In my research I found the perfect person to play John Kerry

That picture sent an Obama sized tingle up my leg. If you were to add a halo, it could be John and Obama's love child.

/Swoons

262 wolfie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:53:15pm

re: #232 Mars Needs Neocons

Ah, come on, Obambi wasn't even a player in the time of the story.
/of course when has that ever stopped the media.

In my research I found the perfect person to play John Kerry

Too macho.

263 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:53:29pm

re: #255 Mars Needs Neocons

He's the host for Canadian Idol, He can do smug quite well. His face may not be long enough but In Hollyweird that may be enough.

264 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:53:51pm

re: #261 AmeriDan
EEEWWW
re: #262 wolfie
Agreed

265 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:53:56pm

re: #259 ggt
Correct, Thanks.

266 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:54:18pm

re: #252 pingjockey

Al Gore will be played by the Goodyear airship Akron.

Another opportunity for the searching debate:
Lifted by Helium or Lifted by Hot Air? You decide.

267 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:54:48pm

re: #263 BlueCanuck

He's the host for Canadian Idol, He can do smug quite well. His face may not be long enough but In Hollyweird that may be enough.

True, but does he have enough talent to act as wooden and uninteresting as John Kerry?

Actually with that qualification, Al Bore could play John Kerry.

268 wanderer  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:54:48pm

Who will star as Lucue Ramirez?

269 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:55:01pm

re: #259 ggt

Yes, Good Times... my bad....

270 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:55:04pm

re: #252 pingjockey

Al Gore will be played by the Goodyear airship Akron.

Hey! That's MY role!
/Not Gore - the Akron

271 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:55:08pm

re: #225 Syrah Indeed there is - and I've been sort of fighting against this damn cancer for 3 years in sometimes not so pleasant ways, so this is indeed HOPE for me and all the more reason (not that I needed any) to keep on fighting!

272 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:55:19pm

re: #266 lifeofthemind

Another opportunity for the searching debate:
Lifted by Helium or Lifted by Hot Air? You decide.

One gaseous bag held aloft by another.

273 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:55:35pm

re: #252 pingjockey

Al Gore will be played by the Goodyear airship Akron.

Or the Michelan Man

274 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:55:44pm

Who is going to play the throbbing memo?

275 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:55:49pm

I have come in late on this and have to fly, but, surely, Dan Rather can play himself?

276 Palandine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:56:01pm

Yay, rain! Good for the tomatoes, zucchhini, chard, malabar spinach, cucumbers, and amaranth.

Night all.

277 tradewind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:56:28pm

re: #260 cliffster

There's always hope....
but at this point I'd rather have a Republican Joe Kennedy buying a few precincts for insurance.

278 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:56:31pm

re: #274 ggt
George Clooney?

279 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:56:34pm

re: #273 cliffster

I've got it. Al Gore will play John Kerry who will play Al Gore.

It's perfect.

/and done in a circular f-ed up way that the Dems will immediately understand.

280 Archimedes  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:56:35pm

re: #231 tradewind

No, it has to be the guy Jimmy whats-his-name from The Jeffersons.
Those ears.... that physique...
So switched-at-birth-esque.
Well, but for the voice.......

I think he is a republican and a big fan of Rush Limbaugh.

281 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:56:37pm

Hey RW! Glad to hear you upbeat and raring to go.

Good Luck with the toofers tomorrow.

282 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:57:02pm

re: #278 pingjockey

He barely has the acting skills to play George C. Looney.

283 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:57:03pm

re: #276 Palandine

Yay, rain! Good for the tomatoes, zucchhini, chard, malabar spinach, cucumbers, and amaranth.

Night all.

Night, Palandine, (pst, scrape up that road-kill will ya, its startin to stunk)

284 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:57:05pm

re: #267 Mars Needs Neocons

Easily, his portion of the show is almost painful. He does his own jokes too. :p

285 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:57:06pm

re: #232 Mars Needs Neocons ROFL! Yup, sure looks like him - hell, put a little mousse in his "hair" and it's HIM!
LOL!

286 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:57:28pm

re: #275 A Kiwi Infidel

I have come in late on this and have to fly, but, surely, Dan Rather can play withhimself?

fixed

287 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:57:55pm

re: #286 Mars Needs Neocons

fixed


/slaps forehead

288 lifeofthemind  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:58:03pm

re: #238 Cicero05

They'll show Obama at the time voting "present" in the Illinois legislature.

Voting "present" is so lame, so High School. It is the legislative equivalent of pleading Guilty with an explanation at the NY Parking Violations Bureau.

289 Palandine  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:58:17pm

re: #283 A Kiwi Infidel

What do you think we're gonna have with the veggies? ;)

290 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:58:20pm

re: #284 BlueCanuck

Easily, his portion of the show is almost painful. He does his own jokes too. :p

Ouch, and I thought we had a problem with Mr. Metrosexual as host.

/also does his own jokes and isn't funny.

291 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:58:52pm

re: #273 cliffster

Or the Michelan Man

I hear that the Stay-Puff man is in talks also.

292 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:59:02pm

re: #289 Palandine

What do you think we're gonna have with the veggies? ;)


/slaps forehead, again, it must be the end of the day

293 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:59:06pm

re: #282 Mars Needs Neocons
I was thinking of george for the liberal gals to ogle. Or some not so liberal girls. The wife likes Harrison Ford. Thinks Clooney needs to get whacked with a clue bat just because.

294 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:59:24pm

re: #239 PSGInfinity
Yeah, hey I predate Rathergate myself - what a rush that was, Charles hit the grand slam with that one!
(I still look at the Trobbing memo from time to time and it NEVER gets old!).

295 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:59:36pm

re: #279 Mars Needs Neocons

Sweet, just like Hillary Clinton can be played by Bill Clinton in the upcoming movie about how Obama stole the nomination from Hillary.

296 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:59:37pm

Thats it, folks, catch y'all 2morrow.

297 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 9:59:44pm

re: #284 BlueCanuck

S'up Blue?

298 cardiacmont  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:00:08pm

I want to play the part of the irregular commenter that shows up late, skips to the end of the thread, and posts something that was probably posted before.

299 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:00:25pm

re: #278 pingjockey

I didn't know he was musical?

300 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:00:38pm

re: #286 Mars Needs Neocons

Now there's some porn that liberals would buy

301 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:01:05pm

re: #293 pingjockey

I was thinking of george for the liberal gals to ogle. Or some not so liberal girls. The wife likes Harrison Ford. Thinks Clooney needs to get whacked with a clue bat just because.

I've pissed off a lot of people by pointing out that Looney has exactly two acting styles. Lovable rogue and crusading hero. And they never vary in style. Always one or the other.

I'd love to see him play "complete asshole" somewhere other than real life.

302 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:01:53pm

re: #295 cliffster

Sweet, just like Hillary Clinton can be played by Bill Clinton in the upcoming movie about how Obama stole the nomination from Hillary.

LOL

(I thought I was the only one who felt they were looking a lot alike)

303 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:01:54pm

re: #299 ggt
I have no idea. The throbbing memo needs to be musical?

304 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:02:24pm

re: #300 cliffster

Now there's some porn that liberals would buy

Once again.

EEEWWW

305 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:02:42pm

re: #298 cardiacmont

hey, I resemble that remark!

306 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:03:23pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

If there's ever a movie staring Kos it's going to have to be Steve Buscemi

Wrong. Make it more realistic. Andy Dick as markos.

307 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:03:36pm

re: #294 realwest

Yeah, hey I predate Rathergate myself - what a rush that was, Charles hit the grand slam with that one!
(I still look at the Trobbing memo from time to time and it NEVER gets old!).

And you've outposted me ~20 to 1. Damn... I'd love to be able to browse/sort the user database by metadata, just to say hi to folks if nothing else. I have a lot of trouble with names/nics. :(

308 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:03:59pm

re: #305 ggt

hey, I resemble that remark!

I want to be the guy who registered a year late, but wants to tell everyone I was there just for the cred.

/actually was reading during that time, but didn't register till a year later when my internet was back on.

309 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:04:51pm

"Who will play the throbbing memo?"

Anyway, I it started as a good idea but I don't think i can take it any further. I still think it has potential, but it is beyond my talents.

Either way, George Clooney creeps me out.

310 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:05:24pm

re: #247 wolfie Hey thanks wolfie - I intend to keep fighting until I win, but I JUST GOT an e-mail from my old Oncologist in NYC who is now in some big deal Prostate Cancer Research Center here (we stay in touch cause we became friends over the year + that he treated me) and he thinks, if my insurance covers it, I can get into a clinical trial here in the US!Now to find out if my Medicare A,B,C and pharmacy D will cover it - geez I sure hope so!

311 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:05:26pm

re: #309 ggt

"Who will play the throbbing memo?"

Anyway, I it started as a good idea but I don't think i can take it any further. I still think it has potential, but it is beyond my talents.

Either way, George Clooney creeps me out.

I think he's cgi.

312 pingjockey  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:07:10pm

Nite all. Best of luck and our prayers RW.

313 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:07:14pm

re: #68 Mich-again

Any other Rathergate Lizards still around?

I was here.

314 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:07:27pm

re: #297 AmeriDan

Hey Dan, not much. Getting my head screwed back on straight and refocusing on important stuff. Like making better money and getting the &()^ off the night shift and out of this dead end job.

315 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:07:29pm

Where'd everybody go.


Hello.....lo...lo...o

316 ted  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:07:53pm

re: #309 ggt

"Who will play the throbbing memo?"
Ron Jeremy

317 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:07:58pm

re: #310 realwest

Hey thanks wolfie - I intend to keep fighting until I win, but I JUST GOT an e-mail from my old Oncologist in NYC who is now in some big deal Prostate Cancer Research Center here (we stay in touch cause we became friends over the year + that he treated me) and he thinks, if my insurance covers it, I can get into a clinical trial here in the US!Now to find out if my Medicare A,B,C and pharmacy D will cover it - geez I sure hope so!

If not, mortgage the house to the hilt, look at the retirement fund, everything and anything.

That is what all of that stuff has been saved up for.

318 PSGInfinity  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:08:30pm

Well, it's 1 AM here in DCTown, so I need to hit the rack.

Don't do anything I wouldn't do, unless it's naughty -
then do it better!

319 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:08:37pm

re: #316 ted

It was a throbbing memo. Not a hairy troll memo. Ick.

320 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:09:39pm

re: #281 ggt Thanks ggt!
Hope you have "weet dreams" tonight, I know I will!

321 ted  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:09:48pm

re: #319 Hard Right

It was a throbbing memo. Not a hairy troll memo. Ick.

Jenna Jameson ?

322 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:09:48pm

re: #310 realwest

RW.. did you see this in the news today?

323 Cognito  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:10:00pm

You've got to hand it to Mary Mapes: The gal doesn't get easily distracted.

"It is better to dwell in the corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman and in a wide house."

- Proverbs 25:24

324 wolfie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:10:09pm

re: #310 realwest

Sometimes dealing w/ the bureaucratic part of medicine today is more torture than the treatments!

325 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:10:21pm

re: #311 Mars Needs Neocons

ah!

326 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:10:58pm

re: #323 Cognito

a brawling woman and in a wide house."


Is that a fat chick joke?

327 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:11:38pm

re: #326 Killgore Trout

Is that a fat chick joke?

a very old one.

328 Cognito  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:11:53pm

re: #326 Killgore Trout

Is that a fat chick joke?

Yeah. I didn't read it too closely, but there's something about a woman as wide as a house, I think.

329 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:12:01pm

re: #321 ted

Jenna Jameson ?

Ummm no. I'm male and not anorexic. ;)

Monica Belucci should play the throbbing memo. We need something to to enjoy in that sh*tbomb of a movie.

330 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:12:35pm

re: #324 wolfie

I think they call that "cost saving" because many people choose to remain home than go to the doctor. I know, I'm one of 'em.

Damn tired of getting and having to cope with 5 pieces of mail for every visit, procedure or whatever.

331 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:12:38pm

re: #306 Hard Right
Oh yeah, Andy Dick as Kos - just perfect fit. But I still like AL Gore as Rather - assuming the movie is shot in a WIDE SCREEN format! LOL!

332 cardiacmont  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:13:03pm

I think the movie could take a Bill Cosby take and turn out something with a CHICKEN HEART THEME

333 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:13:46pm

re: #309 ggt

"Who will play the throbbing memo?"

Anyway, I it started as a good idea but I don't think i can take it any further. I still think it has potential, but it is beyond my talents.

Either way, George Clooney creeps me out.

If only he could shut his big fat stupid moonbat mouth for awhile I could watch one of my favorite movies again.

O Brother, Where Art Thou?

334 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:14:21pm

Jeannine Garafolo will be Laura Bush then
and instead of Dicaprio as young Bush

they will use Screech, from Saved-By-The-Bell

335 wolfie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:15:05pm

re: #330 ggt

No kidding ! I know just what you mean!

336 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:15:25pm

re: #313 Shiplord Kirel
And posting just as well as you do now, too! Gee I remember all the excitement when Charles proved the falsity of the document and "updated" it with the throbbing .gif bit ! Sublime I tells ya!

337 Archimedes  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:15:46pm

re: #280 Archimedes

I may have misconstrued you. I was thinking of J J Walker from Good Times, not The Jeffersons. Dynomite!

He's the one who is a fan of Rush Limbaugh.

338 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:15:56pm

re: #331 realwest

Oh yeah, Andy Dick as Kos - just perfect fit. But I still like AL Gore as Rather - assuming the movie is shot in a WIDE SCREEN format! LOL!

Just wondering....do the anti-whaling greenpeace sailors provide body guards to protect Gore? It would only make sense.

339 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:16:47pm

off topic, time for some levity


An old, blind cowboy wanders into an all-girl biker bar by mistake.

He finds his way to a bar stool and orders some coffee. After sitting there for a while, he yells to the bartender, 'Hey, you wanna hear a blonde joke?'

The bar immediately falls absolutely silent.

In a very deep, husky voice, the woman next to him says, 'Before you Tell that joke, Cowboy, I think it is only fair, given that you are blind, that you should know five things.

First, the bartender is a blonde girl with a baseball bat.
Second, the bouncer is a blonde woman.
Third, I'm a 6-foot tall, 175-pound blonde gal with a black belt in karate.
Fourth, the woman sitting next to me is blonde and a professional weightlifter.
And fifth, the lady to your right is blonde and a professional wrestler.
Now, think about it seriously, Mister. Do you still wanna tell that joke?'

The blind cowboy thinks for a second, shakes his head, and mutters,
'Naw, not if I'm gonna have to explain it five times.'

340 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:17:30pm

re: #336 realwest

And posting just as well as you do now, too! Gee I remember all the excitement when Charles proved the falsity of the document and "updated" it with the throbbing .gif bit ! Sublime I tells ya!

Many thanks!
A thousand years from now, people will be writing dissertations about LGF and the throbbing memo.

341 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:17:42pm

re: #317 Syrah Um, yeah I guess - but don't own a home or have much savings cause the first year I had cancer I had NO medical insurance and that broke my piggy bank.
And it's hard to save when your on SSDI ! But it isn't going to stop me - if I'm medically a candidate, then I am by God gonna get that treatment, just you wait and see!

342 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:17:46pm

re: #214 TheMotz

The part of Al Gore will be played by:

Al GoreJabba the Hutt

343 varmint  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:18:20pm

is this a theatrical release?


time to start a betting pool. how much money will this thing lose? how little will it make opening weekend?

344 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:18:48pm

re: #342 JeremyR

Heyyyyy. Jabba wasn't that repulsive.

345 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:18:55pm

re: #314 BlueCanuck

Hey Dan, not much. Getting my head screwed back on straight and refocusing on important stuff. Like making better money and getting the &()^ off the night shift and out of this dead end job.


Good for you. Plow through all the BS and reach the other side, and come out smelling like a rose in a flower garden.

Best wishes and support lazer-beaming your way.

346 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:19:18pm

re: #339 Adrenalyn

I'm a blind cowboy, and my wife is blonde (at least she tells me she is) and that joke pisses me off.

347 HelloDare  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:21:03pm

After they finish rewriting history with the Rather movie, they're going to start on a WWII flick. The Bomb That Fell On Pearl Harbor.

348 JustMyView  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:21:09pm

re: #310 realwest

Hey thanks wolfie - I intend to keep fighting until I win, but I JUST GOT an e-mail from my old Oncologist in NYC who is now in some big deal Prostate Cancer Research Center here (we stay in touch cause we became friends over the year + that he treated me) and he thinks, if my insurance covers it, I can get into a clinical trial here in the US!Now to find out if my Medicare A,B,C and pharmacy D will cover it - geez I sure hope so!

In most cases, the treatment provided in clinical trials is free. The researchers are interested in recruiting participants who will try untested drugs and procedures and free treatment is part of the incentive to do that. Are you sure that you have to pay?

349 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:21:19pm

re: #346 cliffster

I'm a blind cowboy, and my wife is blonde (at least she tells me she is) and that joke pisses me off.

As my father says:

It is better to be pissed off
and irritated
Than pissed upon
and irrigated.

350 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:21:29pm

re: #346 cliffster

I'm a blind cowboy, and my wife is blonde (at least she tells me she is) and that joke pisses me off.

I see, said the blind carpenter, as he picked up his hammer and saw.

351 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:21:56pm

re: #339 Adrenalyn

Heh,

My blond niece is sooo going to hear that one soon!

352 Pythagoras  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:22:35pm

This is Mapes's tar-baby. Everything she does just makes it worse but she just can't help herself.

It's almost a shame to enjoy this so much. She deserves, and needs, a lot of pity.

Meanwhile, pray that they actually go through with it. Could this actually get any more fun?

353 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:23:04pm

re: #349 Hard Right

As my father says:

It is better to be pissed off
and irritated
Than pissed upon
and irrigated.

Or as my father says... you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends underneath the couch cushion.

354 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:23:15pm

re: #341 realwest

Then for a different path. If any of those agencies tell you that you don't qualify for some reason or such, contact your congress-critter. Those agencies have one set of answers for us when we call them, and a completely different set when a congress-critter calls them. Don't let your critter's party affiliation put you off of this. For these things, it need not be an issue.

355 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:23:48pm

re: #328 Cognito

Shame on you.

356 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:23:59pm

blonds sure are fun
let's talk about them some more:


A blonde woman was speeding down the road in her little red sports car and was pulled over by a woman police officer who was also a blonde.

The blonde cop asked to see the blonde driver's license. She dug through her purse and was getting progressively more agitated.

'What does it look like?' she finally asked.

The police woman replied , It's square and it has your picture on it.'

The driver finally found a square mirror in her purse, looked at it and handed it to the police woman.

'Here it is,' she said.

The blonde officer looked at the mirror.

Then she handed it back saying, 'Okay, you can go. I didn't realize you were a cop.'

357 cardiacmont  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:24:22pm

Any body hear the outcome of the Chinese guy threatening to jump in D.C. this evening?

Did he jump or not?

How much did he donate to the Clintons?

358 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:24:23pm

re: #322 Yankee Division Son YES - that's the article an LGFer sent to me and I sent to my old oncologist by e-mail and who JUST NOW e-mailed me back that if my insurance will cover it, I could get into the trials here in the USA!

359 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:24:46pm

re: #353 cliffster

Or as my father says... you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends underneath the couch cushion.

Is that a pro nose picking quote, or an anti person quote? :)

360 profitsbeard  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:24:51pm

"Fake But Accurate: the Frequency of Dan R."

James Woods as Dan Rather.

Martin Sheen as GWB

Shakira as Laura Bush.

Gary Coleman as Barack Obama.

And starring The Throbbing Memo as Itself.

361 AmeriDan  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:24:55pm

re: #352 Pythagoras

This is Mapes's tar-baby. Everything she does just makes it worse but she just can't help herself.

It's almost a shame to enjoy this so much. She deserves, and needs, a lot of pity.

Meanwhile, pray that they actually go through with it. Could this actually get any more fun?

RACIST! ! !

/if I were a dimocrat

You've summed it up quite nicely.

362 esch  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:25:24pm

re: #339 Adrenalyn

LMAO!

That's one to tell the wife. Good thing she's a brunette...

363 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:25:57pm

re: #347 HelloDare

After they finish rewriting history with the Rather movie, they're going to start on a WWII flick. The Bomb That Fell On Pearl Harbor.

It will be about a jalopy that was improperly lashed into a transport plane. Said old model T will cause untold havoc, and a war on Japan will be launched to save face on the poor PFC who didn't do his job.

364 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:26:00pm

Even white boys got to shout.

365 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:26:37pm

re: #355 Killgore Trout

Shame on you.

Yes! Weird Al video there too!

366 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:27:00pm

re: #353 cliffster

Or as my father says... you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends underneath the couch cushion.

But you can throw them under the bus.

367 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:27:23pm

Baby got back.
/Namaste, y'all.

368 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:27:58pm

re: #365 Hard Right

Yes! Weird Al video there too!

Nope not Al.

Somewhere I have the comprehensive list of Al songs.

/I know, nerd.

369 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:28:18pm

re: #358 realwest

Awsome.. good for you! It's amazing how fast science/medicine can advance sometimes, you never know what tomorrow may bring...

370 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:28:33pm
371 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:28:52pm

re: #359 Hard Right

The good thing about posting to blogs is you can pick your nose all you want. And if you do it late at night like this then... well just don't check under my couch cushion

372 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:29:18pm

re: #368 Mars Needs Neocons

Nope not Al.

Somewhere I have the comprehensive list of Al songs.

/I know, nerd.

Check under More From: JoJoLeeLee1

373 esch  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:30:25pm

re: #367 Killgore Trout

Can't see much of the back. Front sure is nice, though.

374 esch  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:31:10pm

re: #370 karmic_inquisitor

OT You've gotta see this pic.

Well, you know what they say:

Once you go Barack, you never go back.

375 wolfie  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:31:37pm

re: #370 karmic_inquisitor

Aaaaaaaaaaack ! :O

That's it ! I'm taking the blonde jokes and good news from realwest and hitting the hay NOW !

376 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:32:12pm

re: #348 JustMyView Well I don't know - I mean I only read the article about an hour ago, e-mailed the link to my old oncologist and he ALREADY got back to me and said if my insurance would cover it I could qualify (he and I stay in touch regularly as he is in Prostate Cancer Research himself now and he knows exactly what my condition is) so it seems as if just volunteering won't cover it - I think it's proceeded pretty far by now, so there may be no longer any "guinea pigs" required; the article is really upbeat about it and clinical trials have been going on in GB and here in the US for some time now.
Sigh. Just gonna have to wait and see what my oncologist down here thinks.
But thank you for that thought - you may still be correct!

377 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:32:49pm

re: #372 Hard Right

Check under More From: JoJoLeeLee1

Excellent.

I wish she knew what was and what wasn't though. I hate when people attribute things to Al that he doesn't want to do.

By the way, He'll be here in August. Tickets in the cheap seats are 28. Hoping to come up with two ticks by then.

378 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:34:45pm

re: #367 Killgore Trout

Baby got back.
/Namaste, y'all.

That one was surprisingly enjoyable.

379 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:35:34pm

re: #377 Mars Needs Neocons

Excellent.

I wish she knew what was and what wasn't though. I hate when people attribute things to Al that he doesn't want to do.

By the way, He'll be here in August. Tickets in the cheap seats are 28. Hoping to come up with two ticks by then.

I hear you on the mistakes. I still smile when I think of his White and Nerdy video. All About the Pentiums is excellent as well.
BTW, when you say "here", where is that?

380 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:36:11pm

re: #367 Killgore Trout

Baby got back.
/Namaste, y'all.

She is, just....wow.

381 pat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:36:20pm

"It must be fun living in a made up world. Anything is possible."
Lucy Ramirez, on CBS

382 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:37:43pm

re: #379 Hard Right

HERE

383 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:37:51pm

re: #339 Adrenalyn OK, I'll put up a joke I got by e-mail today too:

"Dating 60's style
It was a hot Saturday evening in the summer of 1960 and Fred had a date with
Peggy Sue. He arrived at her house and rang the bell.

'Oh, come on in!' Peggy Sue's mother said as she welcomed Fred in. 'Have a
seat in the living room. Would you like something to drink? Lemonade? Iced
tea?'
'Iced tea, please,' Fred said. Mom brought the iced tea.

'So, what are you and Peggy planning to do tonight?' she asked.

'Oh, probably catch a movie, and then maybe grab a bite to eat at the malt
shop, maybe take a walk on the beach...'

'Peggy likes to screw, you know,' Mom informed him.

'Really?' Fred replied; eyebrows rose.

'Oh yes,' the mother continued. 'When she goes out with her friends, that's
all they do!'
'Is that so?' asked Fred, incredulous. 'Yes,' said the mother. 'As a matte r of
fact, she'd screw all night if we let her!'

'Well, thanks for the tip!' Fred said as he began thinking about alternate
plans for the evening.

A moment later, Peggy Sue came down the stairs looking pretty as a picture
wearing a pink blouse and a hoop skirt, and with her hair tied back in a
bouncy ponytail. She greeted Fred.

'Have fun, kids!' the mother said as they left.

Half an hour later, a completely disheveled Peggy Sue burst into the house
and slammed the front door behind her.

'The Twist, Mom!' she angrily yelled to her mother in the kitchen. 'The
fucking dance is called the Twist!

384 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:38:06pm

re: #376 realwest

JMV might be right - if it is in clinical trials they are usually looking for recruits. I've known several people in that boat but the closest to me was my aunt. She participated in a clinical trial for pancreatic cancer and did not pay anything. They were happy to tell her how much the treatments cost - somewhere in the thousands per treatment, but she didn't pay for any of it.

385 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:38:35pm
386 pat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:39:32pm

real, go for it. Just do not be the placebo.

387 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:39:47pm

re: #385 JeremyR

I've seen that one.

388 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:39:51pm

re: #354 Syrah Thanks Syrah - I'll do that - and my congresscritter (House) and one of my Senators are both up for re-election this year, too!
Thanks a lot for the idea and the good wishes!

389 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:41:16pm

re: #382 Mars Needs Neocons

HERE

Just wondering, would it be inappropriate to yell YANK ME at his concert?

390 JustMyView  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:41:21pm

re: #376 realwest

Well I don't know - I mean I only read the article about an hour ago, e-mailed the link to my old oncologist and he ALREADY got back to me and said if my insurance would cover it I could qualify (he and I stay in touch regularly as he is in Prostate Cancer Research himself now and he knows exactly what my condition is) so it seems as if just volunteering won't cover it - I think it's proceeded pretty far by now, so there may be no longer any "guinea pigs" required; the article is really upbeat about it and clinical trials have been going on in GB and here in the US for some time now.
Sigh. Just gonna have to wait and see what my oncologist down here thinks.
But thank you for that thought - you may still be correct!

Good luck with it. I looked at the article, and it does, indeed, look really hopeful.

391 esch  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:41:32pm

re: #385 JeremyR

The new bumper sicker of the left

I want it.

392 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:41:53pm

re: #389 Hard Right

Just wondering, would it be inappropriate to yell YANK ME at his concert?

LOL not sure I'd risk it.

393 chuba  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:42:40pm

Charles, you will be the villain. You'll need a Mustache and a cape.

If he can say, "Nyah, ah ah..." then he's hired.

394 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:43:47pm

re: #369 Yankee Division Son Thanks a lot - yeah, they've come a long way in just the three years I got it!
Regrettably for me when they found I had it, it had already burst open the sack and was stating to mestastisize, so treatment option have been a little limited, to say the least.

395 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:44:04pm

Hi all ... too tired to read upthread. Everyone okay today? Has Obama imploded yet or is the media still covering his arse?

396 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:44:52pm

re: #370 karmic_inquisitor Hey, shouldn't one of them be barefoot and another one walking on water or something?!

397 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:44:57pm

re: #395 hermeneutics

Hi all ... too tired to read upthread. Everyone okay today? Has Obama imploded yet or is the media still covering his arse?

With their lips.

398 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:46:30pm

re: #397 Hard Right

With their lips.

Darn. No blunders yet. I still hope for a more nuanced portrayal of Obama (sounds so lefty, doesn't it?)

399 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:47:36pm

re: #384 cliffster Thank you cliffster, I'll keep that in mind.

400 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:47:47pm

re: #398 hermeneutics

Darn. No blunders yet. I still hope for a more nuanced portrayal of Obama (sounds so lefty, doesn't it?)

I'd settle for accurate. That will happen right after monkeys fly out of my butt, tho.

401 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:49:23pm

re: #386 pat Thanks pat, if they'll let me I'm sure as hell gonna, but don't know how to be "the placebo."!

402 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:49:31pm

re: #400 Hard Right


I've not seen the news. Has McCain capitalized on the NYT refusal to run his editorial? Has some other smarter paper picked up that editorial yet?

403 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:49:35pm

re: #394 realwest

Very sorry to hear... but strange as it may sound (I'm no expert) but I wonder if that may make you more eligible for the trial, as they may want to see if it's effective on more than what they have seen thusfar..

404 kynna  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:50:54pm

Mary Mapes played by Janeane Garofalo
Dan Rather played by Ted Danson
Les Moonves played by Martin Sheen

and because they hate -- Charles Johnson played by Wallace Shawn

This idea is the biggest failure notion I've seen lately. Nobody goes to movies anymore. Nobody even watches them on TV. And that's comedies and adventures. If a studio is paying for this nonsense, their share holders need to have a meeting to remove the 'decision makers' pronto.

405 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:51:27pm

re: #402 hermeneutics

I've not seen the news. Has McCain capitalized on the NYT refusal to run his editorial? Has some other smarter paper picked up that editorial yet?

I've heard nothing about other papers jumping on it. FOX and CNN have reported on it, but I can only imagine how CNN spun it.

406 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:51:41pm

This is a request from Herme - so nobody else look @ these pics:
sun seals
sealposers

They were 100 yds away and down the cliff...

and a random shot: bee

...remember no peeking!

/ ;)

407 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:52:47pm

why is a danica patrick catfight considered news by Greta Van Sustren?

408 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:53:53pm

re: #407 cliffster

why is a danica patrick catfight considered news by Greta Van Sustren?

Because it was fun to watch?

409 RTLM  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:54:36pm

OT -

/Obama's regrettable ABC interview.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

(sans $2000.00 teleprompter, but WITH incessant stuttering & head-tilt)

410 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:54:42pm

re: #407 cliffster

why is a danica patrick catfight considered news by Greta Van Sustren?

Danica should have punched her. That idiot rookie could have caused a wreck by deliberately cutting her off over and over like she did.

411 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:55:07pm

re: #401 realwest
CRAP - I meant I don't know how to NOT be the placebo!
RATS.

412 cliffster  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:55:41pm

re: #408 slokat

heh, not really along the lines of her "let's uncover some sh1t and get to the bottom of things" cover, but yeah it's fun to watch ;)

413 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:57:49pm

re: #409 RTLM
Huh, link doesn't work for me - I get a message that the page I'm looking for doesn't exist!

414 pat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:58:06pm

re: #395 hermeneutics

Hi all ... too tired to read upthread. Everyone okay today? Has Obama imploded yet or is the media still covering his arse?

As a Religion/Philosophy doctorate, you seem to misunderstand that Obama is the Messiah. I guess you were looking for something beyond a shallow fraud.

415 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:58:09pm

re: #412 cliffster

Actually - real answer: she has a history of going into other driver's pits and yelling at them.

416 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 10:59:43pm

re: #406 slokat

Slo,
You are just wonderful! Thanks for the pics. Those seals look so lazy and contented, even from a distance. I'd like to join them but they'd probably squish me.

Did you know I'm dying to be a beekeeper? I'm ordering from Brushy Mt. six medium brood and supers -- not too big to lift. And I'm getting natural-sized foundation (comb pattern) which apparantly reduces mites and parasites. I'm so psyched (my boys are terrified.)

So thanks for the bee pic, too!

417 Hard Right  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:01:43pm

re: #415 slokat

Actually - real answer: she has a history of going into other driver's pits and yelling at them.

Tis true. After seeing the footage on this one, she had every reason to go and yell at her (she didn't yell tho). She had the line and the faster car, but the loony driver of the other car nearly caused an accident several times. It was someone jdeliberately being an ass with potentialy dangerous consequences. Like I said, Danica should have punched her.

418 Racer X  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:01:51pm

re: #407 cliffster

why is a danica patrick catfight considered news by Greta Van Sustren?

Hell-lo? Its Danica Patrick in a spat with Milka Duno.

419 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:02:00pm

re: #414 pat

smile.
1. We're all relativists now, dear. He's not MY messiah, but he can be yours.
2. Or, it depends on what you mean by Messiah.

choose your poison

420 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:02:16pm

re: #391 esch

I want it.

KNow anyone local in the sign business? Arround here we have Harsh FX, and Film at Eleven.

421 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:03:41pm

re: #395 hermeneutics

Hi all ... too tired to read upthread. Everyone okay today? Has Obama imploded yet or is the media still covering his arse?

One guess.

422 Aussie Infidel  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:03:55pm

We are half way to fantasy land as it is. How about we go whole hog?

Make it into a court room drama with Charles as the attorney and Mary Mapes standing in the dock screaming ...."YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"...... hey it worked a treat when Jack did it! hehehe

423 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:04:24pm

re: #416 hermeneutics

I saw the thread the other night, so I went out looking for a bee to photograph... harder than it sounds.

424 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:04:45pm

re: #402 hermeneutics

I've not seen the news. Has McCain capitalized on the NYT refusal to run his editorial? Has some other smarter paper picked up that editorial yet?

Charleston Daily Mail, Don Surber blog.

425 esch  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:05:07pm

re: #420 JeremyR

KNow anyone local in the sign business? Arround here we have Harsh FX, and Film at Eleven.

Yeah I'm sure I could get it done.

I would be worried about 'key'ing though. I live in Minnestan, lots of wackos here.

426 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:05:19pm

re: #378 Syrah

"my friend is like a priest to me"

427 Racer X  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:05:20pm
428 RTLM  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:05:21pm

re: #413 realwest

Try it through Hot Air -
LINK

429 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:05:29pm

re: #424 JeremyR

Charleston Daily Mail, Don Surber blog.

Good. Lets hope the WSJ or some other big paper picks it up and runs with it. Could happen.

430 realwest  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:06:59pm

Well all y'all it's been grand and I truly appreciate all the "congratulations" and encouragement and ideas I've received over the possible breakthrough in my cancer treatment. And I'll remember all of you who helped with the congrat's, encouragement and ideas for a long, LONG time. Thank you all.
But I gotta get some sleep tonight cause I might wind up getting a tooth pulled tomorrow!
I do hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get to see you down the road.

Goodnight, all!

431 Pythagoras  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:07:08pm

Please, please don't throw me in the brier patch!

432 NY Nana  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:07:31pm

re: #409 RTLM

Yuck...I watched Gibson's intro, and stopped I am off to sleep, and don't want to have nightmares! The playlist has some other good ones. Thanks! It works fine.

I muted it earlier on the evening news. I watch ABC News. I won't touch the other 2.

G'nite, all! Sweet dreams.

433 RTLM  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:09:18pm

re: #432 NY Nana

No - go ahead and look. It might be your last time to see Obama on ABC...

434 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:11:12pm

The polling report ... from Hermy.

Today some interesting polls were released in those important states, Michigan and Ohio. Both look good.

No internals on this poll, but EPIC/MRA puts McCain within 2 percentage points. [Link: www.mlive.com...]

And in Ohio, PPP (a very lefty pollster) has Obama leading by 8 percent. This may sound dreadful, but he jiggered the poll so that there were 13 percent MORE Democrats than Republicans in the sample. It could be argued that this represents a win for McCain.

[Link: www.publicpolicypolling.com...]

435 pat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:11:48pm

I love bees and they love me. Rarely sting me, unlike the nasty wasps which are flying ants (bastids), and bee stings do not hurt me.

436 pat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:12:11pm

re: #432 NY Nana

Yuck...I watched Gibson's intro, and stopped I am off to sleep, and don't want to have nightmares! The playlist has some other good ones. Thanks! It works fine.

I muted it earlier on the evening news. I watch ABC News. I won't touch the other 2.

G'nite, all! Sweet dreams.

Nite

437 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:12:45pm

re: #425 esch

Yeah I'm sure I could get it done.

I would be worried about 'key'ing though. I live in Minnestan, lots of wackos here.

he has several just for you at [Link: bp0.blogger.com...]

438 ggt  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:12:47pm

weet dreams all!

439 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:12:55pm

And on a sour note, Gallup tracking has Obama pulling ahead by 6 points. Not good at all.
[Link: www.gallup.com...]

440 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:13:11pm
441 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:13:29pm

re: #438 ggt

weet dreams all!

Sleep deeply, GGT.

442 RTLM  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:14:09pm

re: #435 pat

I love bees and they love me. Rarely sting me, unlike the nasty wasps which are flying ants (bastids), and bee stings do not hurt me.

Especially yellowjackets. They hurt.

443 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:14:10pm

re: #431 Pythagoras

Brier patch = between the two sides of the catfight?

or into a political debate with Nobama?

444 pat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:15:26pm

nipples
[Link: www.dwingdwang.com...]
humor

445 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:15:36pm

Good night, all. Sleeping pills have kicked in again and the screen is hard to see through the mental fog. Maybe my blondeness has something to do with it? :)

Nightynite.

446 calcajun  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:16:06pm

Will it be a musical? Maybe Sondheim will write the lyrics and Tim Rice can do the music. Oh joy. Rapture.

447 pat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:16:10pm

re: #442 RTLM

Especially yellowjackets. They hurt.

yes indeed.

448 Syrah  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:16:14pm

re: #426 Killgore Trout

"He who walks in the shadow of love
Will have heaven beneath his feet"

I have to wonder how close the translation is. Poetry/lyrics are not known to translate so pleasantly.

I was wondering around the other bollywood clips and it is interesting how much "techno" and these Indian videos seem to have in common. The techno is less lyrical, but shares a lot in the rhythm and percussion.

449 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:16:39pm

Night ggt, hermeneutics. Weet dreams to the both of you.

450 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:17:18pm

re: #439 hermeneutics

Pooled together the polls have the pols even at the pole?

/

451 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:18:22pm

re: #445 hermeneutics

Good Night, hive dreams!

452 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:18:52pm

re: #451 slokat

Good Night, hive dreams!

zzzzzzzzz

nitey, Slo

453 hermeneutics  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:19:12pm

Good night, Bluere: #449 BlueCanuck

Night ggt, hermeneutics. Weet dreams to the both of you.

454 NY Nana  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:23:25pm

re: #433 RTLM

No - go ahead and look. It might be your last time to see Obama on ABC...

Your mouth to G-d's ear! I really am going to sleep, and watching Hussein would cause extreme nighmares! I would hope he disappears into the stratosphere, the lightweight, on election day.

If he keeps on flip flopping? He makes Hanoi John look good! And we all know what happened to him. Uh, what was his name again? ;)

He was for a flag pin before he was against it and then for it..and as for the Surge? For, against, for, against...tune in after he leaves Israel.

Bet he still can't say 'Afghanistan', nor name all 57, or is it 58 states?

I just wonder what he will say and do in and to Israel this week.

G'night, all! Sweet dreams.

455 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:26:31pm

Well things seem to be slowing down. Time for a little rock and or roll to spice things up.

456 NY Nana  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:26:48pm

re: #436 pat

Nite

Sweet dreams, Pat!

457 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:27:02pm

re: #454 NY Nana

Well said NY Nana. Have yourself a pleasent rest.

458 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:29:37pm

re: #454 NY Nana

NYte Nana!

459 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:31:36pm

re: #37 RTLM

Daniel Day Lewis to play Dan Rather.

I think George Clooney is going to be killing people to get the role of Dan Rather.

460 wiffersnapper  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:34:15pm

I guess Hollywood is out of good ideas after making The Dark Knight.

461 FlakMusic  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:34:39pm

re: #191 Malleus Dei

Despite absolute proof that the memos are 100% faked, the Left persists in their moronic mythology.

This is just Mapes trying to salvage some face and try to not look like one of the biggest idiots in the history of network news.

Her strategy is the classic neo-marxist crap that the moonbat troofers will lap up like...well...hungry stoats:

"Money is the master," wrote Ms. Mapes. "That is the bottom line to what happened at CBS that fateful fall when we aired a story that, like all stories, was imperfect, but was absolutely grounded in fact. It was well researched and well documented. But when Viacom saw that the story was not well received and that a conservative firestorm was threatening the corporation's financial well-being, their collective wallets started itching. As a result, I believe CBS News, 60 Minutes, Dan Rather, and journalism itself got badly scratched."

Of course! The profit motive is to blame. Damn you captialism! Damn you to hell! Another innocent purveyor of truth and justice destroyed by itchy, evil corporate wallets.

462 JeremyR  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:35:58pm

OK, I found the book.

463 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:36:44pm

re: #461 FlakMusic

Of course! The profit motive is to blame.

Hhmmm, wonder if the movie will be free?

464 FlakMusic  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:37:11pm

And who should play Adobe's Thomas Phinney, the man who helped expose the fraud for what it was?

465 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:37:16pm

re: #124 Cicero05

Raging Bullshit


The DonFather

466 FlakMusic  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:38:37pm

re: #463 slokat

Hhmmm, wonder if the movie will be free?

Profit in the hands of the left is...um...different!

467 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:41:48pm

re: #466 FlakMusic

Profit in the hands of the left is...um...different!

Unfortunately most of the left wouldn't have the right to bitch, complain, whine, and moan about our great society if it wasn't for PROFIT. Read a great passage in a book today that stated the capitalist why is why we have such a great lifestyle now. Even the poorest of us has access to undreamed riches, and limitless opportunities. The only thing stopping anyone is the size of their dreams.

468 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:42:25pm

How about Barbra and Mr. Striesand? Both are dopey enough to be earnest about it, and son Josh could play W again.

Smells like rewriting history. Why the need to cover up this egregious foolishness? Who is hurt by this being a footnote? Why call attention to it?

I guess its the old Commie thing about 'controlling the past'.

469 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:45:04pm

re: #455 BlueCanuck

Well things seem to be slowing down. Time for a little rock and or roll to spice things up.

I see you Rush (you Canadocentric bigot) and rise you some Pink Floyd.

470 steve  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:47:38pm

If this was a comedy how about
Gene Wilder as Dan Rather
Bette Midler as Mary Mapes

471 coquimbojoe  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:47:48pm

Hey, where'd everybody go?

472 slokat  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:48:44pm

On last parting pic as I head off to sleep:

don't jump! I'm sure we can work something out...

473 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:49:04pm

re: #469 coquimbojoe

Good one, I will re-raise you as soon as I am finished listening to Pink.

/I love the song.

474 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:49:56pm

re: #472 slokat

LOL, nice title for the pic. Have yourself a great sleep and weet dreams.

475 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jul 21, 2008 11:56:14pm

Here we go, an older song, now, but it always seems appropiate. And a cool video I thought.

476 Green Helmet Guy  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:00:06am

re: #16 Charles

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

My thoughts exactly. A la "The Professional/Leon" :)

477 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:01:56am

Dear God.....Please don't let me be portrayed by anyone with the last name of 'Affleck' or 'Wahlberg'....

478 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:03:39am

re: #468 coquimbojoe

How about Barbra and Mr. Striesand? Both are dopey enough to be earnest about it, and son Josh could play W again.

If he isn't picking up trash along the side of a Shreveport LA freeway, I guess....

479 RTLM  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:06:33am

I recommended Daniel Day (Plainview) Lewis to portray Rather because his portrayal of Plainview was sufficiently convincing to portray Rather in his true, paranoid, narcissistic form.

480 nightwatch  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:14:09am

Money Penny

481 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:31:18am

Here we go again. Where did everyone disappear too now?

482 RTLM  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:36:13am

I think it sucks and a damn shame that Heath Ledger died (RIP). A full life, ready to go. A baby daughter and just off to an awesome start in the movie business.
Strikes of James Dean.

His next movie is The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus.


(2009)

483 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:41:54am

re: #482 RTLM

Sounds like an interesting movie. I hope that the untimely death of Heath Ledger won't alter it too much.

484 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 12:49:02am

I think I should be portrayed by a Ray Liotta or Andy Garcia in the upcoming Lizard flick.....even if it is a bit part....

485 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:06:14am

All your threads are belong to me!

486 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:06:25am

Anybody here?

487 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:07:02am

It says 61 people on line, but there's 45 in the lounge, is there a debate going on about ID that I am missing?

488 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:07:21am

IT'S ALIVE!

Hello joe, welcome back.

/now where is karridine, he should be here shortly.

489 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:07:22am

Where's the usual denizens of the night?

490 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:08:06am

re: #488 BlueCanuck

IT'S ALIVE!

Hello joe, welcome back.

/now where is karridine, he should be here shortly.

I came back to say goodnight and nobody had posted for almost 30 minutes...


It scared me.

491 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:09:06am

Well, some are on the ID threads. A few are cruising some of the other threads commenting and dinging away. The usual stuff now a days. Things should pick up shortly.

492 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:10:07am

re: #490 coquimbojoe

Well I am getting lost on the information superhighway, but paying attention every now and then to the spy. Nobody wants to talk now.

493 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:11:30am

Went to check the spy... its slow even there. I go now good night/bon nuit for you from canuckistan. ;-)

494 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:13:10am

Have yourself a good night joe. Weet dreams to you.

495 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:41:28am

I know I'm impatient, but this thread could use a little more fruitcup

496 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:41:44am

*tap!* *tap!* *tap!*

497 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:43:06am

Fenway! :-)

498 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:43:24am

re: #496 littleoldlady

sssssh, we're hunting rathers.

499 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:45:08am

BlueCanuck! :-) ;-)

500 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:46:51am

Morning littleoldlady. Really quiet night today. Even red is absent.

/hate to say it, but I miss him.

501 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:47:38am

That's OK....you have me!

502 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:51:04am

Yup! In his inimitable way, red can really liven up a thread.

/usually by p*ssing somebody off ;-) ;-) ;-)

Oy. My computer has the hiccups. Hope I can do fruitcup...

503 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:53:39am

Hiccups? Oh no. Well it only has to last for 6 more minutes.

/want fruitcup. :)

504 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:57:24am

Well on the bright side, people will start trickling in for the buffet shortly. Which means it may pick up.

505 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:58:21am

re: #504 BlueCanuck

Well on the bright side, people will start trickling in for the buffet shortly. Which means it may pick up.

If not, more fruitcup for us

/bwa-ha ha ha

506 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 1:59:10am

re: #505 Fenway_Nation

Yep, there is always a bright side to everything.

/hmmm, my fridge needs to be restocked.

507 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

508 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:00:30am

Whew!

509 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:01:02am

re: #507 littleoldlady

w00t! thanks littleoldlady. Now lets see the lizards crawl out from the scenery.

/I know you are out there. . . . .

510 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:01:21am

Now my computer can crash in peace...

/since you boys only want me for my body fruitcup

511 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:02:08am

Let the fridge re-stocking begin!

512 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:02:50am

re: #510 littleoldlady

Now my computer can crash in peace...

/since you boys only want me for my body fruitcup

{MWAH} Your married with a kid. ;)

/I think that would cause gossip and problems. :D

513 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:04:10am

re: #512 BlueCanuck

"Nobody here but us chickens..."

;-)

514 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:06:44am

re: #513 littleoldlady

Fenway is still here, saw him in the corner restocking a fridge. Ah well, at least I have only three hours to go in this cell.

515 laZardo  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:10:44am

A Rathergate movie?

Maybe I could play that young, starry-eyed supporting character who turns out to be a spy for TEH CONSERVASPIRACY. Near the end I'd be facing off with the hero in the rain, guns pointed at each other's faces.

"You can't win, Mary! You don't know the damage you'll cause if people believe all of this!"

/afternoon dreamin'

516 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:12:32am

re: #515 laZardo

Morning/afternoon laZardo. How's things in the Phillipines today?

517 laZardo  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:13:53am

re: #516 BlueCanuck

No classes today, and I just finished the hours requirements with my first on-the-job training (internship), so I'm just getting some much needed lying-down time.

/1 L, then 2 Ps, please...

518 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:14:03am

Blue,

You're in a cell; I'm in a dungeon.

/we have problems :-(

laZardo! :-)

Ah, to be young again...

519 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:16:37am

re: #517 laZardo

ooops. Sometimes I do get spelling challenged. I will remember for next time.

520 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:17:25am

Strange how CBS might've relented to protests by some conservative groups about how Ronald Ragean was portrayed in a made-for-TV biopic but the Vast Right Wing Consipracy is supposed to give them a mulligan on the use of forged documents in an attempt to influence the 2004 Presidential Elections....

It's almost as if Mapes wasn't caught in a lie- her employers and the blogosphere was at the Beck and call of the VRWC

521 laZardo  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:17:32am

re: #518 littleoldlady

Young? I turned 21 on Saturday (actually, Sunday factoring in timezones) and the way my generation's headed, I can see my obsolescence nearing. >__>

/21's the new 40...

522 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:17:41am

re: #518 littleoldlady

Problems? Yes maybe, but right now I choose to look upon it as a challenge. If I work it right I may get out of this cell shortly.

/must work harder.

523 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:18:41am

re: #515 laZardo

A Rathergate movie?

Maybe I could play that young, starry-eyed supporting character who turns out to be a spy for TEH CONSERVASPIRACY. Near the end I'd be facing off with the hero in the rain, guns pointed at each other's faces.

Be sure to tell her the safety's on.....

524 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:18:53am

re: #521 laZardo

21?!? That is just getting started. Compared to you I am over the hill.

525 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:19:36am

re: #523 Fenway_Nation

You kidding? The real life one probably has never held a gun, much less fired one.

526 RTLM  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:23:08am

Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007 (1/31/07)

A week ago, Senator Barack Obama introduced binding legislation that would re-deploy all United States military forces out of Iraq. This would begin on May 1, 2007 and finish no later than March 31, 2008.

527 laZardo  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:23:35am

re: #523 Fenway_Nation

Or maybe she'd be using a taser, because guns are just WORNG!

/typo intended

528 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:24:45am

When did 21 become old?!

/I need to pay closer attention...
//sheesh!

Mazel tov on your birthday! :-)

529 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:25:32am
ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) — Ready for the latest in spa pampering? Prepare to dunk your tootsies in a tank of water and let tiny carp nibble away.
Fish pedicures are creating something of a splash in the D.C. area, where a northern Virginia spa has been offering them for the past four months.
"This is a good treatment for everyone who likes to have nice feet," Ho said.


Here in the NC hills,
we have carp ponds that have been sucking peoples wallets for years.

I nominate this actor to play Charles.
[Link: imagecache2.allposters.com...]

530 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:25:34am

Speaking of movies with contrived plot twists, what was the name of that Sean Connory/Laurence Fishburne movie where Connory's a northern lawyer who tries to exonorate a black man on death row in Florida? The first half of the movie was the usual leftist pap and drivel, but [SPOILER ALERT] a little over halfway through, it becomes clear that the man on death row is actually guilty and played the well-intentioned liberal lawyer for a fool?

531 laZardo  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:30:09am

re: #528 littleoldlady

Mazel tov on your birthday! :-)

And speaking of Hebrew, the kaffiyeh Middle Eastern Scarf is officially "in" among my classmates (and for once I suspect they know little of what's behind it.)

Oddly enough, I'd like to get one of those, only blue and with a Star of David pattern. Just for the paradox effect. (:

532 laZardo  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:33:25am

re: #530 Fenway_Nation

Just Cause.

/oddly enough, also the name of a video game with a familiarly-styled cover.

533 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:37:07am

re: #531 laZardo

Too bad the model doesn't come with it, eh? ;-)

534 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:37:35am

Rathergate movie plot.

Poker House:
Dan wins big monies lying about Pres. Bush.

Dark Danky Dripping Torture Cell:

Charles ties up Dan,
cuts the bottom out of a bamboo chair and uses a big rope to torture him.

But soon discovers that Dan has no nuts to torture.

535 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:38:52am

re: #533 littleoldlady

Tease. :)

536 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:42:46am

re: #533 littleoldlady

Too bad the model doesn't come with it, eh? ;-)

Olmert looks cute in Kufiy

537 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:44:21am

re: #536 ibmkeyboard

ibm! :-)

He might as well.

:-(

538 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:46:32am

re: #526 RTLM

Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007 (1/31/07)

Speaker Nancy Poloasky:

There is a light at the end of the tunnel.


/Obama with a torch.

539 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:46:36am

re: #108 Pawn of the Oppressor

"The Fifth Element" Gary Oldman, or "Harry Potter" Gary Oldman?

I was thinking more the "Bram Stoker's Dracula" Gary Oldman.

There's your villain.

540 laZardo  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:48:14am

re: #538 ibmkeyboard

Speaker Nancy Poloasky:
There is a light at the end of the tunnel.


/the bus.

Fixed.

541 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:49:30am

re: #539 Dar ul Harb

You know The Fifth Element Gary Oldman is eeeevil because his charachter has a southern accent!

542 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:50:46am

re: #537 littleoldlady
Just noticed the Star of David.
cool.

[Link: bp0.blogger.com...]

543 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:51:04am

Do buses get thrown down the memory hole?

544 laZardo  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:52:33am

re: #543 Fenway_Nation

The Magic School Bus almost came out of one.

545 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:52:54am

re: #539 Dar ul Harb

I was thinking more the "Bram Stoker's Dracula" Gary Oldman.

There's your villain.

Ha.

watching that sucker crawl all over the screen was scary.

546 laZardo  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:54:17am

I'm gonna go eat dinner. BBL.

547 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 2:55:17am

re: #544 laZardo

The Magic School Bus almost came out of one.

Now that's a bus that would fit in with NObama's campaign. It is all about CHANGEing.

548 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:27:04am

They are coming.

549 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:29:38am

re: #538 ibmkeyboard

Speaker Nancy Polosky:

There is a light at the end of the tunnel.


/Obama with a torch doobie.

550 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:30:16am

Hey Karridine, where have you been?

551 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:32:09am

re: #550 BlueCanuck

Hey Karridine, where have you been?

Job-hunting, online...

HOW yew?

552 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:33:05am

re: #551 Karridine

That good eh? Better today, mental reprogramming is starting to take effect.

553 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:33:59am

re: #552 BlueCanuck

I hear you. Stay positive, stay real... life is worth living... :D

554 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:35:31am

Self-talk is important, that stuff we mumble to ourselves, CONSTANTLY... and it can drag us down or bouy us up... our choice...

555 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:37:22am

re: #552 BlueCanuck

And I still have my 1/2-day job, I'm just looking for something to pad my pocket, and I found one Teaching Journalism.... Bwahaha! If I can get it, this'll be GREAT!

"Facts, students, just the facts. Spin is NOT allowed!"

556 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:40:20am

re: #555 Karridine

Working on something similar, pad the pocket that is, that will eventually evolve into fulltime.

/there's that dreaded word again.

557 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:41:49am

re: #556 BlueCanuck

Yeah, I just want to get my feet under me, say 6-8 months, but NOT selling my soul for the Paycheck... "Its Kind of a Drag", sang the pop group...

558 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:42:49am

re: #557 Karridine

The Buckinghams....

559 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:44:01am

Morning all. Some good news out of Europe.

Bosnian Serb war crimes fugitive Karadzic arrested

BELGRADE (Reuters) - Bosnian Serb wartime president Radovan Karadzic, wanted for genocide and crimes during the Bosnian war, was arrested near Belgrade after 11 years on the run, in disguise and working as a doctor.

560 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:45:55am

re: #556 BlueCanuck

I've GOT a 1/2-day teaching job coming online in about 10 days, but I'm trying for something BETTER than its $1,600 a month... together they'd bring in $3,200 per month, and over here in Thailand, thats decent pay. Real decent...

But that leaves me 4 actual days, 4 Sundays a month, to relax with my family, Blue....

561 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:46:49am

re: #559 Bubblehead II

Wonderful! Some GOOD NEWS for a change, Bubble!

562 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:56:01am

Shin Bet probes 'settler rocket fire' near Nablus

The Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency) was looking into Palestinian claims on Monday that settlers from Har Bracha and Yitzhar in the West Bank fired two rockets into fields near Nablus.

Hmmmm...... Are the pali's getting a taste of their own medicine or is this just a media stunt? The picture of that "rocket" just doesn't look right to me.

563 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 3:57:57am

re: #562 Bubblehead II

Well with all the parts and pieces that the paleostinians have sent the settlers, I think they should be able to cobble together a few good ones and return them to sender.

564 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:04:48am

'Morning boys.

Peeping through the windows of the intraweb tubes and what do I see? Validation of my theory that the UN is well-named, as it is fundamentally UNAmerican...The UN vs. the Second Amendment. Now Eugene is by no means a right-winger, but he is reliably pro-Second Amendment.

In The Human Right of Self-Defense, 22 BYU Journal of Public Law 43 (2008), Paul Gallant, Joanne Eisen and I detail some of the U.N.'s activities against domestic gun ownership. These include:

Providing financial and planning support to the proponents of a gun confiscation referendum in Brazil.

Adopting a Special Rapporteur's report declaring that self-defense is not a right, but is a limited excuse for violating the rights of the criminal.

Declaring that insufficient domestic gun control is a violation of current human rights treaties. Under the U.N.'s standards, even the pre-Heller laws of the District of Columbia were so lax as to be international human rights violations, for allowed the possession and use of defensive rifles or shotguns, in business premises, against non-lethal felony attacks such as rape, mayhem, arson, and armed robbery.

Rebecca Peters' organization IANSA (International Action Network Against Small Arms) is the "the organization officially designated by the UN Department of Disarmament Affairs (DDA) to coordinate civil society involvement to the UN small arms process." The official UN Report against self-defense was written by an IANSA member, University of Minnesota Law Professor Barabara Frey.

According to Peters--the head of the organization which the U.N. says represents "civil society" on gun issues, all handguns should be banned, as should all rifles capable of firing 100 meters, as should the defensive ownership of any gun.


It was certainly a relief to find out that the U.N. has no interest in restricting the gun rights of Americans.

I'm not one of those in favor of forcing the UN from American shores. I want the US to withdraw from the UN, but keep the headquarters in NYC so Americans can drive by and see what a thugocracy looks like up close and personal.

565 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:05:37am

re: #563 BlueCanuck

Agreed but I think they could do a better job than that "rocket". It just looks to be too heavy to have flown, but that is just my opinion. Now from the We told you so dept, comes this.

Diskin: Hamas taking advantage of truce to booby trap Gaza

Hamas has taken advantage of the cease-fire with Israel to plant mines across widespread areas of the Gaza Strip, the head of Shin Bet (Israel Security Agency), Yuval Diskin, said Tuesday.

/No shit Sherlock

And after the last disgusting "prisoner" exchange they are considering another one. This time with hamass.

London-based Arab language newspaper Al-Hayat reported on Tuesday that Israel was willing to release Barghouti in exchange for Gilad Schalit, something Hamas has reportedly demanded.

/will they ever learn?

566 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:07:48am

re: #565 Bubblehead II

Well if they do a prisoner exchange, I hope it's for a live person rather than a coffin. I personally think that bodies should be exchanged for bodies.

567 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:18:12am

I think that the initial link was from Glenn Reynolds's joint. This made me smile.

I live in America and I want a place I can get away from it for 45 minutes and pretend I'm in Portland or wherever.

That very attitude is why I tend to stay here in my little slice o' heaven. America as it now stands can be a bit overwhelming.

568 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:20:07am

re: #566 BlueCanuck

Personally, I don't think the Israeli's will know one way or the other until the actual exchange occurs (if it does, that is). Hamass will do the same thing that Hezbollah did and refuse to prove that he is alive and then deliver a corps at the exchange with an "oh, we're sorry, but he died from the injuries he received when we captured kidnapped him.

569 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:22:56am

re: #567 razorbacker

I remember those days. But up here Tim Horton's was good (is good still). True I didn't see a Starbucks until I moved to the big city, but even then I couldn't see what all the fuss was about. On the other hand, drinking army coffee made me appreciate Mc Donalds coffee.

570 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:25:36am

Good morning, Lizards.

571 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:27:04am

WTF?

Bulldozer driver rampages in Jerusalem, shot dead

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A bulldozer went on a rampage in Jewish west Jerusalem on Tuesday, in the second such attack this month, and rammed into cars before the bulldozer's driver was shot dead, police said.

572 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:27:29am

Good Morning Goddess.
Good Morning everyone.

573 Bubblehead II  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:28:21am

Time to jet. Must earn my daily bread so I can hang out here. keep it cool Lizards.

L8R

574 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:28:50am

Good morning goddess, how's LGF's favourite lolcat?

575 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:29:07am

re: #569 BlueCanuck

Growing up, I thought that I didn't like coffee. Only in the last decade or so have I begun to drink coffee everyday, begining with a chicory-infused blend that we found in New Orleans. Now I drink whatever it is that my wife buys run through an old Bunn Pour-A-Matic.

Regarding McDonalds coffee. I actually like their 'new' premium blend.

576 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:29:38am

ooops, that time again. Have a good day lizards. stay scaly.

577 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:30:37am

re: #575 razorbacker

Growing up, I thought that I didn't like coffee. Only in the last decade or so have I begun to drink coffee everyday, begining with a chicory-infused blend that we found in New Orleans. Now I drink whatever it is that my wife buys run through an old Bunn Pour-A-Matic.

Regarding McDonalds coffee. I actually like their 'new' premium blend.

Mmmmm. Cafe Du Monde... (sp?)

578 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:34:25am

re: #577 christheprofessor

There are worse ways to begin your day than sitting at an outside table with an attentive waiter keeping the cup full and those little sugared donut things coming;)

579 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:36:00am

Gee, I've got to go, too--I'm teaching an SAT prep class at 8...

580 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:36:21am

re: #569 BlueCanuck

I remember those days. But up here Tim Horton's was good (is good still). True I didn't see a Starbucks until I moved to the big city, but even then I couldn't see what all the fuss was about. On the other hand, drinking army coffee made me appreciate Mc Donalds coffee.

I was angry (along with 11 other men on our work trick) having to drink some REALLY CRAPPY coffee one night, on our island on the Korean DMZ, so we browbeat the Korean mess-worker into cleaning out the 15-gallon (?) coffee urn...

...wait for it, Canuck...


... and he threw all the gunk out, including the dead rat at the bottom!

581 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:37:35am

re: #578 razorbacker

Vroooom!

Buzz-buzz-buzz! :P

582 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:37:52am

re: #580 Karridine

I was angry (along with 11 other men on our work trick) having to drink some REALLY CRAPPY coffee one night, on our island on the Korean DMZ, so we browbeat the Korean mess-worker into cleaning out the 15-gallon (?) coffee urn...

...wait for it, Canuck...


... and he threw all the gunk out, including the dead rat at the bottom!

Well I bet that woke you up.

583 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:38:07am

That sheetrock isn't going to drag itself in and screw itself onto the wall, so I'd best get to it.

See all y'all during the breaks.

584 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:40:11am

re: #582 Ford_Prefect

Well, I wasn't the only one who kept it all down, but we had a couple of guys didn't make it to the door...

We agreed that if the Korean mess-hall worker cleaned up the mess we'd (inadvertently) made, we'd NOT tell the Mess Hall sergeant...

585 Karridine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:41:43am

re: #582 Ford_Prefect

And yes, it was a REAL kick!

Wasn't much we could do, in 1965... we had rats the size of terriers, and no effective way to ban them...

586 songbird  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:44:43am

re: #560 Karridine

I've GOT a 1/2-day teaching job coming online in about 10 days, but I'm trying for something BETTER than its $1,600 a month... together they'd bring in $3,200 per month, and over here in Thailand, thats decent pay. Real decent...

But that leaves me 4 actual days, 4 Sundays a month, to relax with my family, Blue....

What are you teaching?

587 sparrowlake  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:45:30am

re: #571 Bubblehead II

WTF?
Bulldozer driver rampages in Jerusalem, shot dead
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - A bulldozer went on a rampage in Jewish west Jerusalem on Tuesday, in the second such attack this month, and rammed into cars before the bulldozer's driver was shot dead, police said.

Another rampaging bulldozer? The Israelis really need to deal with these crazy bulldozers.

588 rightwinger3  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:46:35am

re: #585 Karridine

And yes, it was a REAL kick!

Wasn't much we could do, in 1965... we had rats the size of terriers, and no effective way to ban them...

Karridine, in 1965 you had M-14 or M-16?

589 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:46:56am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. There's more fallout from the news yesterday that the NYC MTA will carry those Islam? ads. A bunch of local politicians are putting pressure on the MTA to can the ads, but here's the part that I found touching: Azzem Khan, assistant secretary general of the Islamic Circle, defended Wahhaj.

"Siraj Wahhaj is a fine American and is respected by Muslims and non-Muslims alike," he said.

Just a few paragraphs before, the Post notes that Wahhaj was an unindicted coconspirator in the 1993 WTC bombing, so it puts Khan's statement into its proper context.

590 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:48:16am

re: #585 Karridine

And yes, it was a REAL kick!

Wasn't much we could do, in 1965... we had rats the size of terriers, and no effective way to ban them...

Today PETA would have gone after the mess-hall worker for creating a hazardous environment for the local wildlife.

591 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:48:18am

re: #578 razorbacker

Man, they are tasty! I was just there a month ago, and didn't get a chance to stop in at Cafe Du Monde.

592 bitsy  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:52:33am

re: #16 Charles

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

Zorg!

593 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 4:54:53am

re: #571 Bubblehead II

At least 11 people were injured in this attack, and the driver was again shot and killed by security. The attack occurred near where Obama is scheduled to stay when he visits Israel. The attacker apparently took the front end loader from a nearby construction site.

594 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:00:48am

re: #571 Bubblehead II

Yup. And again, one of those nasty, embarassing settler types(nice young man from Susia near Chevron, who decided that staying anonymous was a good idea)got off the first shot(apparently a policeman either killed him or confirmed the kill).

595 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:01:18am

re: #593 lawhawk

At least 11 people were injured in this attack, and the driver was again shot and killed by security. The attack occurred near where Obama is scheduled to stay when he visits Israel. The attacker apparently took the front end loader from a nearby construction site.

this is where I say Israel should only use immigrants from Asia or eastern Europe- I know that Philipinos do a lot of eldercare and other immigrants do household work. Gosh, I am sorry for the Palis who are good and won't get work but since no one seems to be willing to step forward and stop the terrorists- guess they will all suffer- like the 80% of lazy Gazans on welfare(no sympathy from me for people who have spent 60 years on un+ welfare - have huge families and spawn terrorists)

596 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:02:42am

re: #571 Bubblehead II

By the way, the way Israel classifies injuries, you don't get a proper picture of the damage. For instance, the individual "injured moderately" lost a leg. I don't know what injured seriously was in this case but you can imagine from what moderately was.

597 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:03:05am

re: #591 christheprofessor

Beignets (ben-YAYz).
Mmmm.

598 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:03:58am

re: #591 christheprofessor
beignets- I've been there once- it was great. However, this makes me think I want to go to Churreria Madrid in Adams Morgan for churros and chocolate(of course, I am not sure if it is still there)

599 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:06:39am

re: #597 Dar ul Harb

re: #598 madisonsfriend

Heh. I knew better than to even try to spell it... I saw some boxes of mix and the Chicoree coffee they sell available for purchase. If I'm not mistaken, one can even purchase the coffee now in stores here in NC (not sure about the binyay beignet mix)...

600 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:07:22am

re: #593 lawhawk

At least 11 people were injured in this attack, and the driver was again shot and killed by security. The attack occurred near where Obama is scheduled to stay when he visits Israel. The attacker apparently took the front end loader from a nearby construction site.

WTH.

Bulldozer drivers in Israel need Jewish temple/Rabbi recommends.

601 BenZacharia  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:07:35am

Is the fruit cup all gone?

602 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:08:43am

re: #596 2senseplain

I suppose when you live in a country constantly under attack, your perception of the severity of injuries can be rather seriously effected.

603 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:09:46am

re: #595 madisonsfriend

Got an even crazier idea, madisonfriend. How about we hire Israelis, preferably Jews, to do these jobs, at a decent wage. Even at the prevailing low wages. I've talked to some of the people hanging out begging. They can't get those jobs(one fellow who is a regular in front of the supermarket in Ramat Beit Shemesh, where I live says he is a stonemason and is regularly shouldered out of jobs in favor of cheaper Arab labor. He tried working as a caretaker, but again, people prefer the Philapinas and Thai workers. So he stands with his hand out and tries to keep food in his childrens' mouths. I'm sure he'd be overjoyed to drive a front-loader instead.).

604 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:10:25am

re: #597 Dar ul Harb

Beignets (ben-YAYz).
Mmmm.

I am drooling all over my keyboard.

I visited New Orleans a few years ago and just loved the place. Every place I went had great food and great music.

605 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:17:05am

Good Morning Lizards..
How is everyone this fine day?

606 opnion  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:17:34am

With this soon to be blockbuster flick, Hollywood will revive the quaint Soviet Union custom of historical revisionism.
Mapes & Rather will be heroic beyond description. You will never know that this was just sleazy, hit journalism, based on a false document

607 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:18:31am

re: #605 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards..
How is everyone this fine day?

Morning Lizards, morning HoosierHoops, where ma coffee?

608 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:19:26am

re: #606 opnion

With this soon to be blockbuster flick, Hollywood will revive the quaint Soviet Union custom of historical revisionism.
Mapes & Rather will be heroic beyond description. You will never know that this was just sleazy, hit journalism, based on a false document

I didn't realize that it needed reviving. It seems to me that the MSM has kept it alive and well for quite some time.

609 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:20:19am

re: #607 doriangrey

Morning Lizards, morning HoosierHoops, where ma coffee?

Here ya go oh mighty master of the 6 string..you want cream in that?

610 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:20:31am

re: #602 Ford_Prefect

I don't know, Ford. Personally, I don't think losing a leg is all that moderate. I think its more to do with the lousy job of public relations Israel does. There's a tendency to tidy things up as fast as possible and try to pretend it didn't happen(you won't be able to see any of the damage within hours )in a weird attempt to keep people from panicking, I suppose. There's a standardized phrase for when missiles hit, too. "No damage and nobody injured" that doesn't tell you about the brush fire that started or count all the windows that broke or all the people sitting there shaking.

611 songbird  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:20:36am

Good Morning, Good Morning, Good Morning Lizards!

612 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:22:04am

re: #609 HoosierHoops

Here ya go oh mighty master of the 6 string..you want cream in that?

Yes, and plenty of sugar.... :)

613 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:23:20am

{Songbird}
Well now at least we have songbird here now to man up the piano bar..

614 opnion  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:24:11am

re: #608 Ford_Prefect

I didn't realize that it needed reviving. It seems to me that the MSM has kept it alive and well for quite some time.

Yes, it is their homage to the era of gulags.

615 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:24:16am

Bloody F---ing Hell! A copycat Bulldozer attack in Jerusalem!

16 wounded!

Morning everyone.

616 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:24:22am

re: #612 doriangrey

Yes, and plenty of sugar.... :)

how about some slenda? Didn't your mommy tell you sugar was bad?

617 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:25:19am

re: #616 HoosierHoops

how about some slenda? Didn't your mommy tell you sugar was bad?

She did, which is probably why I like it so much..... ;P

618 Dar ul Harb  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:25:38am

The biggest problem with a Rathergate movie is that it will have long stretches of the "action" that consist of people looking at screens and typing on computers.

Bo-ring.

Now if they have Charles using one of those gestural interfaces from Minority Report, he'll properly look like an evil wizard casting cyber-spells.

Meanwhile at CBS's Black Rock headquarters in New York, Dan Rather descends into enfeebling madness, like King Théoden of Rohan, as Charles, the Saruman to W's Sauron, convinces people that the Killian memos are cheap forgeries.

We follow Rather's descent from the heights of journalism, as he wanders from place to place like Hidetora in Kurosowa's Ran, ending up on HDNet.

Mapes, is of course, the only one who knows the truth.

619 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:26:34am

Why no open thread today?

620 songbird  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:28:14am

re: #613 HoosierHoops

{Songbird}
Well now at least we have songbird here now to man up the piano bar..

Time for a good morning party, then!

/needs more coffee!

621 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:29:38am

re: #619 rlevitin

Why no open thread today?


dunno..just jumped into this thread about a Dan Rather Movie..which nobody will produce anyway.. and nobody will watch..
Since america loves it's talking animal movies maybe they can do this movie as a knock off of finding Nemo.. be more fun to watch

622 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:29:50am

re: #620 songbird

Time for a good morning party, then!

/needs more coffee!

Yes, more coffee....

623 yochanan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:30:16am

re: #604 Ford_Prefect

i went to Quebec City one thing they do very well is food and beer esp the bakery and crepe places even though Quebec City is as hilly as San Fran in the two weeks i was there i gained 10 lbs. it is a lovely city to be a tourist in great food at all price ranges even the stuff at at a local diner was great for the price. had beef wellington for 6$ and the only thing that was so so was the veggies on the side.

one plus on Quebec City you really don't have to worry were you are walking unlike N.O. which is a slum away from the tourist spots.

I was in Quebec City during marda gras a little more 'wife friendly' than N.O. no one is going to flash you for some beads when it is near zero degrees f.

624 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:31:45am

re: #619 rlevitin

Why no open thread today?

Open threads are like candy, too many rot your mind...

625 yochanan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:32:21am

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

my answer to the terrorist pigs.
were is Z. Jabotinski when we need him
Yod Hazack. a strong hand.

626 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:32:47am

re: #623 yochanan

no one is going to flash you for some beads when it is near zero degrees f.

That's too bad, as that is a great time to get flashed...

627 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:33:35am

coffe is done hmmmm.... this homemade watermellon wine is sooooo tempting is this the tuesday morning drinking thread?

628 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:33:59am

re: #626 christheprofessor

That's too bad, as that is a great time to get flashed...

Yup, I love getting flashed, well except by the code stinko bitches....

629 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:34:03am

re: #622 doriangrey

Yes, more coffee....

I love Kona Coffee! ( Dorian..we're talking coffee here..I saw your eyes light up when you saw Kona)

I just got an email on my BlackBerry.. A friend of mine from California is in Chicago today and is driving down here to visit for a day or two..
Whoo-Hoo!

630 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:34:50am
631 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:34:52am

re: #625 yochanan

Were the Irgun and Stern gang the same? If not, what was the other name for tyhe Stern gang... I don't remember.

632 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:35:00am

WTF a fox reporter stuttered almost said president obama

633 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:35:04am

re: #627 JimmyTheClaw

coffe is done hmmmm.... this homemade watermellon wine is sooooo tempting is this the tuesday morning drinking thread?

I've never had watermelon wine, but it sounds intriguing. I've had plum wine (both commercial and home-made) and love it.

I have my grandfather's wine press but have no idea how to make wine... :(

634 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:35:12am

re: #629 HoosierHoops

I love Kona Coffee! ( Dorian..we're talking coffee here..I saw your eyes light up when you saw Kona)

I just got an email on my BlackBerry.. A friend of mine from California is in Chicago today and is driving down here to visit for a day or two..
Whoo-Hoo!

Kona coffee... drool drool drool... er sorry did you say something else?

635 opnion  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:35:15am

re: #627 JimmyTheClaw

coffe is done hmmmm.... this homemade watermellon wine is sooooo tempting is this the tuesday morning drinking thread?

"There's only three things worth a solitary dime, it's old dogs & children & watermelon wine." Tom T Hall

636 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:35:24am

re: #630 lawhawk

Casualty update on Jerusalem terror attack - it's now up to 18.

casualty = wounded?

This could have been worse... much worse.

637 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:35:43am

re: #628 doriangrey

Yup, I love getting flashed, well except by the code stinko bitches....

Hell, I'd rather be flushed than flashed by those beasts...

638 yochanan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:35:52am

re: #627 JimmyTheClaw
a bit early for that unless you work the over nite shift.

no arabs no terror

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

639 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:36:35am

re: #631 rlevitin

LeHI.

640 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:37:07am

re: #637 christheprofessor

Hell, I'd rather be flushed than flashed by those beasts...

Yup, a flash from those vile witches could make a normal heterosexual man claw his eyes out...

641 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:37:35am

re: #639 2senseplain

Righhht.


What do you think the odds of them banning Arabs from construction work is?

642 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:38:18am

re: #641 rlevitin

Righhht.


What do you think the odds of them banning Arabs from construction work is?

Isnt the term Arab construction worker a oxymoron?

643 yochanan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:38:34am

re: #631 rlevitin

the stern group was a sub set of the other I think

644 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:39:23am

re: #642 doriangrey

Isnt the term Arab construction worker a oxymoron?

Someone (you?) said that exact same thing last time this happen. (Damn, I hate saying that... "last time this happened")

645 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:40:05am

re: #640 doriangrey

Yup, a flash from those vile witches could make a normal heterosexual man claw his eyes out...

The mammary equivalent of Medusa...

646 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:40:41am

re: #643 yochanan

the stern group was a sub set of the other I think

The Stern group was a lot more radical and hit both Arab, British, and Jewish "sympathizing" targets.

None of them was good. Although the combined efforts of all three (counting Haganah stubborness) managed to oust the Brits.

647 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:41:20am

re: #645 christheprofessor

The mammary equivalent of Medusa...

To use a on line gaming phrase... A gross out factor of plus one million...

648 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:41:43am

re: #636 rlevitin

Yes, 18 were wounded, at least 1 seriously.

649 yochanan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:42:17am

M. Begin came out of the [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
he was the closest politician Israel has had that was like President Reagan. I never agree 100% with any pol even Begin or Reagan but both were heads above Obama or Olmert.

650 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:42:22am

re: #618 Dar ul Harb

The biggest problem with a Rathergate movie is that it will have long stretches of the "action" that consist of people looking at screens and typing on computers.

Bo-ring.

With all due respect, the biggest problem is that the only actor really qualified to play Gunga Dan is no longer in pictures.

651 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:42:39am

re: #644 rlevitin

Someone (you?) said that exact same thing last time this happen. (Damn, I hate saying that... "last time this happened")

Sorry, just the first thought that comes to mind when reading the phrase Arab construction worker...

652 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:43:20am

re: #647 doriangrey

To use a on line gaming phrase... A gross out factor of plus one million...

A sphincter-factor of 10...

653 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:44:29am

DEBKA:

A quick-thinking passing civilian and a border guard officer shot the driver dead Tuesday, July 22, after two vehicles and a bus were rammed opposite the Liberty Bell Park, 200 yards from King David Hotel where UK premier Brown stayed Monday. At least 18 people were hurt, one seriously. Two are children.

The bulldozer burst out of a nearby building site in Yemin Moshe.

The terrorist was Ghassen Abu Tir from Umm Tuba, a Palestinian village in southeast Jerusalem, who was employed at the building site. He was a relative of Muhammed Abu Tir, a Hamas lawmaker held in an Israeli jail.

The first bulldozer attack was carried out on July 2 on Jaffa Street by a Jerusalem Palestinian who caused considerable damage and three deaths. It was claimed by the Hizballah-sponsored Galilee Liberation Brigades.

2 of the 18 are children, and the terrorist was from (south)East Jerusalem. (I don't know my Jerusalem geography all that well, but I assume southeast is the same as east)

654 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:44:55am

re: #650 razorbacker

With all due respect, the biggest problem is that the only actor really qualified to play Gunga Dan is no longer in pictures.

I assume you were referring to the part of the anatomy facing away from the camera...

655 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:45:18am

re: #652 christheprofessor

A sphincter-factor of 10...

Yup, those bitches could shut down N.O.'s marda gras by making everyone sick to their stomaches...

656 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:45:43am

re: #651 doriangrey

Don't apologize... it lends your observation that much more weight.

657 yochanan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:45:45am

arabs do a lot of the construction work because short sighted companies hire them because they work for less than Israeli do. The majority might just do there work but it allows the terrorists to have easy access. This lowers the standard of living for the israeli working class as well.

658 doriangrey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:46:45am

Opps time to run off to work..........

659 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:46:56am

re: #657 yochanan

arabs do a lot of the construction work because short sighted companies hire them because they work for less than Israeli do. The majority might just do there work but it allows the terrorists to have easy access. This lowers the standard of living for the israeli working class as well.

After two such attacks, what do you think the likelihood of a ban or severe restrictions on Arab workers is?

660 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:47:08am

re: #654 christheprofessor

All apologies to hard-working mules everywhere. And if you've ever ridden a horse over rough ground you'd prefer a mule too. A mule has too much sense to go somewhere he can't walk just because the rider wants to go there.

661 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:47:13am

re: #659 rlevitin

Well, three attacks if you count the Yeshivah as an "inside" job.

662 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:47:32am

re: #655 doriangrey

Yup, those bitches could shut down N.O.'s marda gras by making everyone sick to their stomaches...

Now that would be redundant...

663 quickjustice  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:48:53am

We know Charles will be portrayed as Snidely Whiplash. I guess that means he gets to tie Mary Mapes to the railroad tracks, as Rather and the CBS brass shriek "It's all her fault!"

664 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:49:09am

re: #660 razorbacker

All apologies to hard-working mules everywhere. And if you've ever ridden a horse over rough ground you'd prefer a mule too. A mule has too much sense to go somewhere he can't walk just because the rider wants to go there.

I've never ridden a mule and only a few horses. Which is too bad, as I like horseback riding (not to be confused with brokeback mounting, of which I am no fan)...

665 yochanan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:49:49am

re: #659 rlevitin

in a rational country yes. but israeli liberals are no different than american or euro liberals. now the ave mizrachi jew in israel gets it but the liberal elite were mostly euro socialists who still beleive if we are nice to the arabi they will accept us. HOW IS THAT WORKING OUT FOR YOU OLMERT/TZIPI?

666 quickjustice  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:50:48am

re: #660 razorbacker

There's an annual Mule Day in Columbia, Tennessee. Worth a trip if you're a fan of the beasts.

667 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:51:06am

re: #641 rlevitin

re: #642 doriangrey

Poor to none. We're not America but people here DO have civil rights that you can't just strip away. The people who perpetrated the last 3 big attacks in Jerusalem(Mercaz HaRav, Front Loader on Jaffa, Front Loader on King David) weren't citizens, they're a weird subcatagory of legal resident that we invented for Arabs residents of Jerusalem after the 6 Day War. They have all the priviledges of citizens except voting including an identity card and freedom of movement. And they all lived in villages within the separation barrier. Some Arabs do opt for citizenship and can get it easily enough if they pass security checks but most don't. Of course, most don't abuse the priviledge either. What COULD change would be requirements for background checks on people(anybody)that they aren't drug abusers, involved in terrorism, etc. before hiring them to do school transportation or drive construction vehicles. Going to be a lot of screaming by the moonbats(and we've got them BAD)over peoples "rights" before that changes.

668 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:54:05am

re: #664 christheprofessor

I've never ridden a mule and only a few horses. Which is too bad, as I like horseback riding (not to be confused with brokeback mounting, of which I am no fan)...

Mules seem to be smarter than horses. Overload a horse and you can break him down, a mule will simply refuse to budge until you lighten the load. They are surefooted, and aren't going to stumble and break a leg.

Riding mules are in great demand by old-time coon hunters. Jumping mules are in greater demand (a mule who will jump over a fence so you don't have to find a gate to go through. You get off, the mule jumps the fence, and you get back on.)

I have to go to town for more drywall screws. See all y'all later.

669 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:54:46am

Meanwhile, I hope Ehud Barak and Olmert are happy with their truce. Hamas has taken measures to guarantee high casualties in any IDF Assault on the strip.

670 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:55:48am

re: #668 razorbacker

Mules seem to be smarter than horses. Overload a horse and you can break him down, a mule will simply refuse to budge until you lighten the load. They are surefooted, and aren't going to stumble and break a leg.

Riding mules are in great demand by old-time coon hunters. Jumping mules are in greater demand (a mule who will jump over a fence so you don't have to find a gate to go through. You get off, the mule jumps the fence, and you get back on.)

I have to go to town for more drywall screws. See all y'all later.


d

You certainly seem to know your mules! I am mulegnorant, so to speak...

Have a great one!

671 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:56:11am

re: #642 doriangrey

Nope. There are lots of Arabs, legal and illegal, working in construction here and edging out any Jews interested in doing the work. One of the ongoing problems is that, the illegals particularly, stay in the buildings they construct and just go back to their villages once a week or so, get familiar with the lay of the land, bother people(lone women and children especially), commit crimes(besides being here illegally), etc. They're actually very good at construction. They go home and do more construction, a lot of it illegal but our wimpy government doesn't enforce orders to tear it down(there was a detructions order on the home of Front-Loader Murderer #1 at the time of his crime as a matter of fact).

672 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:58:03am

If anyone wants a head start on this blockbuster movie, I have personally seen the Mapes book in hardcover at the local Dollar Tree store.

I did not think it was worth the buck, since I can get a two-roll pack of Scott's Tissue for that price on sale.

673 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:58:21am

re: #661 rlevitin

Not only was it an "inside job", apparently it wasn't the first try but the previous try on a yeshiva over by the Western Wall was frustrated by more on-the-ball security. Told the guys with the big box and no paperwork to take a hike.

674 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 5:59:52am

re: #670 christheprofessor

d

You certainly seem to know your mules! I am mulegnorant, so to speak...

Have a great one!

I have, sadly, reached that age at which one knows a little bit about a whole lot if he's been paying attention.

And if he's had interesting companions.

Now if I can only find my wallet...re: #666 quickjustice

There's an annual Mule Day in Columbia, Tennessee. Worth a trip if you're a fan of the beasts.

We have Mule Day at the local fairgrounds where the best are shown off. Good riding mules are expensive.

675 CommonCents  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:00:07am

re: #651 doriangrey

Sorry, just the first thought that comes to mind when reading the phrase Arab construction worker...

"Arab-worker". Isn't that an oxymoron?

676 pingjockey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:00:18am

Mornin' all. What is it going to take for the libs in Israel to realize those "people" don't want any peace for Israelis except the peace of the grave?

677 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:00:29am

re: #623 yochanan


I have been to Quebec as well, though quite some time ago. You are right that it is a beautiful city. I never felt uncomfortable anywhere that I went and the food was good. I think the thing I liked best about New Orleans, though, is all the street performers. It seemed as though there was great music on every corner. Also I had the best BBQ Chicken that I have ever eaten while in NO. Wish I could remember the name of the place. I do remember that there were only two of them, one in NO and one in Memphis.

678 CommonCents  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:01:48am

OT: Anyone see the video running on the news of Obama meeting with Al-Maliki in Iraq? I've heard no mention of it yet, but running with the Obama is an elitist theme, he motions to Al-Maliki to sit. Wouldn't it be customary for the host to motion Obama to sit?

679 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:02:15am

re: #673 2senseplain

Not only was it an "inside job", apparently it wasn't the first try but the previous try on a yeshiva over by the Western Wall was frustrated by more on-the-ball security. Told the guys with the big box and no paperwork to take a hike.

Do you have a link for that?

That's interesting news. Security is slacking?

680 Macker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:03:02am

re: #676 pingjockey

A radioactive crater in the center of Tel Aviv?

/ugh

681 Iron Fist  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:04:48am

re: #678 CommonCents,

That is changed when the guest is a diety. If the Obamessiah motions for you to sit, you should sit.

682 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:04:55am

re: #676 pingjockey

Mornin' all. What is it going to take for the libs in Israel to realize those "people" don't want any peace for Israelis except the peace of the grave?

It's going to take an Iranian nuke in the hands of terrorists, and the terrorists broadcasting a news message saying "Israeli's, we have a nuke, finally you may have the peace you so wanted -- 'the peace of the grave'"

Even then, I'm sure moonbats will think it is all some sort of a misunderstanding.

683 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:05:00am

re: #675 CommonCents

Nope. They work very hard. They do excellent construction when they want to. They also sabotage the work when they can get away with it, steal materials, bother people from the area, etc.

By the way, today's terrorist now identified as Ghasam Abu-Tir, age 22, from the village of Abu Tubas. Apparently he's related to the Hamas supporting PA legislator arrested recently.

684 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:06:30am

re: #683 2senseplain

That was cited in the DEBKA article I posted above...

#653

685 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:07:13am

A Rathergate movie should strive for authenticity and accuracy. It should mirror real events as closely as possible. For example, my character should be played by a dashing and sophisticated billionaire playboy who uses both his vast fortune and his psychic powers to fight crime. I don’t know if any actor could quite capture my essence, so I’ll probably have to play myself.

Occasional Reader could be the comic relief. His character should be portrayed as a braggadocios, pedantic buffoon. Clint Howard would be perfect for the role.

686 CommonCents  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:08:05am

re: #671 2senseplain

Nope. There are lots of Arabshispanics, legal and illegal, working in construction here and edging out any JewsAmericans interested in doing the work. One of the ongoing problems is that, the illegals particularly, stay in the buildings they construct and just go back to their villages once a week or so, get familiar with the lay of the land, bother people(lone women and children especially), commit crimes(besides being here illegally), etc. They're actually very good at construction.

U.S. translation. Things are the same all over.

687 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:09:36am

re: #685 Dirk Diggler

Shouldn't your part be played by Mark Wahlberg?

688 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:09:53am

Absolutely, hire Israeli Jews for work instead of Palis or others. At least the Thais and Philipinos don't want to kill Israelis(I guess the ones who come aren't Muslim?).

689 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:10:02am

re: #683 2senseplain

I was reading the other day that Arabs that served with Allied troops in the North Africa campaigns in WW2, having been told by German operatives that the Americans and Brits would set up a Jewish state there after the war, would often light fires as a sort of smoke signal to warn German positions of approaching Allied troops. The practice diminished when Allied troops were ordered to fire on the fires...

690 madisonsfriend  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:10:58am

re: #689 christheprofessor

I was reading the other day that Arabs that served with Allied troops in the North Africa campaigns in WW2, having been told by German operatives that the Americans and Brits would set up a Jewish state there after the war, would often light fires as a sort of smoke signal to warn German positions of approaching Allied troops. The practice diminished when Allied troops were ordered to fire on the fires...


there is no question that the Arabs and Germans were together- so this would be no surprise.

691 Miss Trixie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:11:13am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards!} &#9836 &#9834

Another loverly day to wake up to and I'm busier than a one-legged man in an a**-kicking contest.

{realwest} *smoooooooooooooooooch* Read your news and check your email please. Prayers going on up for ya.

BTW - BEST. JOKE. EVER. :D

692 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:12:12am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Afghanistan Doesn't Need a 'Surge'

SNIP:


Afghanistan needs many things, but two more brigades of U.S. troops are not among them.

Barack Obama said: "We need more troops, more helicopters, better intelligence-gathering and more nonmilitary assistance to accomplish the mission there." Mr. Obama should have supported the surge in Iraq, but that doesn't mean that advocating one in Afghanistan makes sense.

Afghanistan's problems are not the same as Iraq's. Its people aren't recovering from a brutal, all-controlling tyranny, but from decades of chaos and centuries of bad government. Afghanistan, unlike Iraq, is largely illiterate and has a relatively undeveloped civil society. Afghan society still centers around the family and, for men, the mosque. Its society and traditions are still largely intact, in contrast to Iraq's fractured, urbanized and half-modernized population.

693 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:12:14am

re: #688 madisonsfriend

Absolutely, hire Israeli Jews for work instead of Palis or others. At least the Thais and Philipinos don't want to kill Israelis(I guess the ones who come aren't Muslim?).

Thai and Filipino Islamists only seem interested in killing locally.

Has even one Far Eastern Muslim been captured in Afghanistan, or done the 'splodeydope thing in Iraq?

694 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:12:47am

re: #690 madisonsfriend

there is no question that the Arabs and Germans were together- so this would be no surprise.

It's funny. I don't remember seeing too many tall, blue eyed, blonde Arabs (or japanese for that matter). War makes for strange bed fellows.

695 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:13:41am

re: #685 Dirk Diggler

{DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRK}!

696 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:14:05am

re: #694 Ford_Prefect

It's funny. I don't remember seeing too many tall, blue eyed, blonde Arabs (or japanese for that matter). War makes for strange bed fellows.

The Nazis were OK with untermenschen if they had a use for them.

697 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:14:35am

re: #687 Ford_Prefect

Shouldn't your part be played by Mark Wahlberg?

Eminem!

698 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:14:50am

re: #692 loppyd

Good morning Loppy.

Good win for our boys last night. It is beginning to look like John Lester is the true ace of our staff this year.

699 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:15:32am

re: #685 Dirk Diggler

Occasional Reader could be the comic relief. His character should be portrayed as a braggadocios, pedantic buffoon. Clint Howard would be perfect for the role.


I could have guest you'd start on Occasional Reader.
Irregardless of whose write oar wrong, lettuce air on the side of raisin, I ax ewe. Lets use our incite to better disgust the topic. Pleas, this is making me tents and beginning to great on my nerves.

700 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:15:56am

re: #696 OldLineTexan

The Nazis were OK with untermenschen if they had a use for them.

At least until they eliminated everyone else. Aligning yourself with them just meant putting yourself at the bottom of the hit list.

701 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:16:21am

re: #698 Ford_Prefect

Good morning Loppy.

Good win for our boys last night. It is beginning to look like John Lester is the true ace of our staff this year.

I couldn't stay up for the whole thing....

Who would have thought it about Lester? I love this kid!

702 Iron Fist  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:16:28am

re: #693 OldLineTexan,

They captured some Uhigurs in Afghanistan. They don't really know what to do with them. The Moonbats want to just let them go. That makes sense.

703 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:17:05am

re: #699 EC Marm

Your verbal brilliance makes my head spin.

704 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:17:17am

re: #691 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Another loverly day to wake up to and I'm busier than a one-legged man in an a**-kicking contest.

{realwest} *smoooooooooooooooooch* Read your news and check your email please. Prayers going on up for ya.

BTW - BEST. JOKE. EVER. :D


A good Morning to you miss trixie..
and of course..loopyd

/Isn't today when realwest gets his toothache fixed?

705 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:17:19am

re: #691 Miss Trixie

Good morning -- did you try the brownies?

706 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:18:52am

re: #703 Ford_Prefect

Your verbal brilliance makes my head spin.


The unfortunate thing is it looks like OR isn't around yet. I love to annoy him with intentional typos and homonym abuse.

707 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:18:53am

re: #702 Iron Fist

,

They captured some Uhigurs in Afghanistan. They don't really know what to do with them. The Moonbats want to just let them go. That makes sense.

Those guys are from China, which at least makes getting there just a matter of crossing some deserts.

If they really want to punish them, they'd give them to the Red Chinese.

708 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:19:26am

re: #706 EC Marm

homonym abuse.

HOMONYMPHOBE!

709 Dr. Shalit  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:19:44am

Well Everyone -

Sorry I missed this this thread last night - If nobody else has said it, let me do so. The way to do a movie about "Rathergate" is to do a musical comedy a la "THE PRODUCERS." I can hear it now -

"...It's Springtime for RATHER and CBS - Winter for JOHNSON and FOX..."

I can also SEE it now - Throb, Throb, Throb...

-S-

710 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:20:31am

EC Marm,

I could have guest you'd start on Occasional Reader.
Irregardless of whose write oar wrong, lettuce air on the side of raisin, I ax ewe. Lets use our incite to better disgust the topic. Pleas, this is making me tents and beginning to great on my nerves.

You know, your comment really begs the question...

/

Good Morning Lopps!

711 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:21:20am

re: #710 Dirk Diggler

EC Marm,


You know, your comment really begs the question...

Irregardless, I must add that...OW!

712 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:21:38am

Get 'em while their hot, kids!

Smith & Wesson revolver to mark legal win


Smith & Wesson thinks the Supreme Court’s recent Second Amendment ruling is a legal victory worth notching on a gun.

The Springfield firearms manufacturer said yesterday it will make an engraved version of its Model 442 revolver to commemorate the historic June 26 high court decision striking down the District of Columbia’s strict handgun ban
.

Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. said it will give a gun to each of the six plaintiffs in the case, including lead plaintiff Dick Heller, an armed security guard and hero to gun-rights advocates across the country. Heller couldn’t be reached yesterday.

713 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:22:24am

re: #704 HoosierHoops

Good Morning!

714 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:22:33am

re: #709 Dr. Shalit

You are right. Mel Brooks would be perfect to do this movie.

"Do you mean to tell me I put an abnormal brain in Dan Rather's head?"

715 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:23:04am

re: #710 Dirk Diggler

Good Morning, Dirk!

What's the good word in the Lone Star State?

716 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:23:09am

re: #714 Ford_Prefect

You are right. Mel Brooks would be perfect to do this movie.

"Do you mean to tell me I put an abnormal brain in Dan Rather's head?"

That could only be an improvement...

717 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:23:12am

re: #712 loppyd

Get 'em while their hot, kids!

Smith & Wesson revolver to mark legal win

Has S&W repudiated the HUD agreement they signed yet? You know, the one that's just sitting there, waiting to be enforced?

Until that day, no S&W firearms in my collection cache arsenal.

718 Redhousebluestate  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:25:39am

No, Bruce Willis to Play Charles. "Hey Rather, kippy-i-i-o-mother f******"

719 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:26:07am

re: #717 OldLineTexan

Has S&W repudiated the HUD agreement they signed yet?


'HUD' as in Department of Housing and Urban Development?

720 Pyrocles  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:26:13am

Dear Americans,

George Bush IS pure evil incarnate (like all Rethuglicans!) and the most sinister villain to ever LIVE! How DARE you question us!? YOU WILL BELIEVE IN BUSH'S PURE EVILNESS! We, the media, will DRIVE THIS INTO YOUR HEAD UNTIL YOU ACCEPT IT AS TRUTH!

Sincerely, your betters in the media.

721 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:26:32am

re: #717 OldLineTexan

Has S&W repudiated the HUD agreement they signed yet? You know, the one that's just sitting there, waiting to be enforced?

Until that day, no S&W firearms in my collection cache arsenal.

Sorry, but I'm not familiar with that....

722 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:27:13am

re: #719 EC Marm

'HUD' as in Department of Housing and Urban Development?

Yes.

723 yesandno  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:28:41am

"The Princess Bribe"

My name is Indignant Maria. You killed the memo. Prepare for the lie.

724 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:28:50am

OK folks. The people who sign my paychecks keep insisting that I actually work for my money. Fascists! I will check you out later!

725 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:28:53am

Sorry.re: #684 rlevitin

726 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:28:54am

Lopps,

What's the good word in the Lone Star State?

We're waiting for football season down here, Lopps. The Lastros got clubbed by the Pirates last night. Jose Valverde gave up seven runs in the ninth. I suspect he did it deliberately to scuttle any talk of a trade to Milwaukee.

727 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:29:26am

Top O' the Marnin' Lizard World! [and the rest o' the day to ye] [from Golem O'Akbar]

728 David Simon  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:31:09am

re: #676 pingjockey

Mornin' all. What is it going to take for the libs in Israel to realize those "people" don't want any peace for Israelis except the peace of the grave?

Unfortunately, Israeli moonbats are no different than American ones: There's no such thing as an enemy; only people who don't like you because you've done something to piss them off.

729 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:31:12am
730 songbird  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:31:20am

re: #691 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards!} ♬ ♪

Another loverly day to wake up to and I'm busier than a one-legged man in an a**-kicking contest.

{realwest} *smoooooooooooooooooch* Read your news and check your email please. Prayers going on up for ya.

BTW - BEST. JOKE. EVER. :D

Busier than a one armed man hanging wallpaper in a windstorm?

731 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:31:46am

re: #722 OldLineTexan

Yes.


Write you are. Apparently the agreement with Treasury/HUD would not apply to S&W if it were sold to some other entity. Hahaha. Government inaction.
[Link: www.thegunzone.com...]

732 Iron Fist  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:32:10am

Smith & Wesson's capitulation deal with the Clinton Administration. They've changed owners since then, and are owned by Americans now. Still, this deal left a lot of bad blood with the gun owning community.

733 mossley  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:32:33am

re: #16 Charles

Gary Oldman has the proper reptilian qualities, I think.

Yeah, but there's no way Hollywood is going to make you look good. My bet: DJ Qualls.

734 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:33:00am

re: #721 loppyd

Sorry, but I'm not familiar with that....

In Bill Clinton's second term, HUD, under Andrew Cuomo, threatened legal action against firearms manufacturers. HUD alleged that practices in the firearms trade (i.e., making guns at all) was endangering residents of Federal housing.

Here's the press release.

Here's one reaction.

Article by Dave Kopel.

And, of course, the VRWC backlash...we are talking about the Clinton mafia here.

735 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:34:22am

re: #726 Dirk Diggler

Lopps,

We're waiting for football season down here, Lopps. The Lastros got clubbed by the Pirates last night. Jose Valverde gave up seven runs in the ninth. I suspect he did it deliberately to scuttle any talk of a trade to Milwaukee.


Ah, football.....That just gave me a Chrissy Matthews moment.

Can't wait! Pats first pre-season game is only a few weeks away....

The Sox ended their skid (for now) last night - John Lester pitched 7.5 shut out innings. Looking to see what Theo et al will do before the trade deadline. My nephew can pitch better than some of the bums in the bull pen.

736 Pyrocles  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:34:37am

I think there's a little hole-in-the-wall Communist book store like that in every city. Reminds me of "Talking Leaves" here in Buffalo. What a stye.

re: #154 Palandine

Good Lord, is no one associated with this film considering its carbon footprint? Will no one think of The Children? The poor polar bears? The pathetic dead baby penguins?

There's a non-chain bookstore I really don't go into anymore except to look at the used books downstairs. To get there, you have to go through their main floor, which is stocked I would guess 25% with pure BDS. The poor, poor trees. Whole rainforests will grow back once Bush is out of office and the industry of BDS goes away.*

*Unless McCain wins, of course.

737 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:34:40am
738 jorline  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:35:14am

Good morning, lizards.

We're keeping a close eye on Dolly this morning along the Texas gulf coast...started to jog more to the north on this last plot. All is calm here on the Corpus beach at this time.

Anyone seen realwest this morning...I know he had a doctors appointment some time today about his tooth.

739 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:36:18am

re: #737 buzzsawmonkey

Unfortunately, gigging for Jews on NPR is NOT unbelievable.

Those "people" are despicable; I refuse to listen to them at all.

740 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:36:28am

Hey good morning all y'all -from a hot and humid (going to 99 degrees today) Charlotte!

I'm going to my Oral Surgeon soon for a "consult" which will probably result in my having a tooth pulled, but maybe not pulled today.

Anyway, I need HELP! I can't get my e-mail system (earthlink) to work because I shut off auto-updates from Microsoft and the error message I get is from Microsoft saying the e-mail won't work unless I download the security updates.
But I recall people out here having problems with their computers AFTER they downloaded MS updates (maybe security pack 3 ?) and want to know if any tech types out here think I should download the MS updates and what do I do if the damn updates screw up my computer?HELP!

741 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:37:55am

Obama tries to dial down politics


“It is not going to be a political speech,” said a senior foreign policy adviser, who spoke to reporters on background. “When the president of the United States goes and gives a speech, it is not a political speech or a political rally.

“But he is not president of the United States,” a reporter reminded the adviser.

“He is going to talk about the issues as an individual … not as a candidate, but as an individual, as a senator,” the adviser added.

742 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:38:06am

re: #738 jorline

Good morning, lizards.

We're keeping a close eye on Dolly this morning along the Texas gulf coast...started to jog more to the north on this last plot. All is calm here on the Corpus beach at this time.

Anyone seen realwest this morning...I know he had a doctors appointment some time today about his tooth.

Meanwhile, South Texas ranchers are holding up bullseyes so Dolly don't miss.

Just taked to a buddy last week...the cattle auctions in his little town have gone from 100-200 to over 600 head per as the drought persists.

Gonna be a lot of lean beef in the grocery stores in the short term.

743 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:38:08am

re: #740 realwest
Yeah, go ahead and download them. The only problem I had was the system rebooted without asking my permission.

744 2senseplain  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:38:22am

re: #694 Ford_Prefect

re: #728 David Simon

No, Israeli moonbats are worse. They have enough experience with evil to know better and they refuse to.

745 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:39:26am

And if y'all want to know why I need that e-mail system, please see my #176 and #310 - possible EXCELLENT NEWS on my cancer!

746 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:39:30am

re: #740 realwest

I've been running SP3 for a few weeks now with no apparent problems... I don't use earthlink, though...

747 jorline  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:39:36am

re: #740 realwest

Hey good morning all y'all -from a hot and humid (going to 99 degrees today) Charlotte!

I'm going to my Oral Surgeon soon for a "consult" which will probably result in my having a tooth pulled, but maybe not pulled today.

Anyway, I need HELP! I can't get my e-mail system (earthlink) to work because I shut off auto-updates from Microsoft and the error message I get is from Microsoft saying the e-mail won't work unless I download the security updates.
But I recall people out here having problems with their computers AFTER they downloaded MS updates (maybe security pack 3 ?) and want to know if any tech types out here think I should download the MS updates and what do I do if the damn updates screw up my computer?HELP!

Good morning RW...just asked about you on #738...lol

748 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:40:27am

re: #737 buzzsawmonkey

Great catch...

Red Flag is the new Black Shirt

749 rlevitin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:40:29am

re: #737 buzzsawmonkey

Gratuitous Antisemitism Watch:

This morning, on the NPR program "The Takeaway," which runs after Morning Edition on WNYC AM, host John Hockenberry was interviewing someone about "economic illiteracy." The guest was explaining how lack of understanding such things as percentages and interest rates get people in financial trouble, and had just finished telling Hockenberry how Hispanics, poor blacks, and women are the hardest hit (no, I'm not making that up).

Hockenberry then says to the guest, "Well, who is good at this? Are you going to say the Israelis, or something antisemitic like that [heh]?"

Look at this three-fer: You get the "Jews and money" stereotype; you get it grafted onto the current conflation of Jews and Israelis (it's the inverted version of "I'm anti-Zionist, not antisemitic"); and you get the pre-emptive mention of antisemitism with followup "heh," just to make sure that you buy yourself "it's a joke" deniability to get a pass for the slur.

Unbelievable.

Wow. Nice catch...

My friend and I were at a hotdog stand, he asked how much the power-drink cost, it was $3, so he was like "-- alright, I'll have a sprite" (which was $1).
The salesman grunted and said "What, are you a dirty cheap ---" and cut himself off after "cheap" , realizing what he was about to say (maybe he noticed the megan david my friend was wearing).
My friend complained to the company later, and I don't think anything really came out of it. But my friend was very upset over it.

750 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:40:45am
751 Iron Fist  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:40:47am

re: #741 loppyd,

Who needs those pesky election thingies? The Obamessiah has come! All shall worship him and despair!

/

Oops. For a moment it got away from me. Obama thinks rather highly of himself, doesn't he?

752 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:40:57am

re: #743 EC Marm
Hey EC, thanks a lot, but now my Earthlink TotalAccess e-mail system is "indexing my entire mailbox though I don't know why it is and it's sure taking a long time!

753 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:40:58am

re: #737 buzzsawmonkey
Why do you torture yourself by listening to that? You know what you're going to get.
Although I should talk, I sometimes watch CNN just to hear what the enemy is up to.

754 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:41:08am

re: #740 realwest

Before you download them, make sure you have a restore point set...

755 maddogg  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:41:17am

Amazing what kids say about beer

A handful of 7-year-old children were asked what they thought of beer. Some interesting responses, but the last one has a familiar ring.

-------------------------------------------------- -
7-year-old Tim- 'I think beer must be good. My dad says the more beer he drinks the prettier my mom gets.'
-------------------------------------------------- -
7-year-old Mellanie - 'Beer makes my dad sleepy and we get to watch what we want on television when he is asleep, so beer is nice.'
-------------------------------------------------- -
7-year-old Grady - 'My Mom and Dad both like beer. My Mom gets funny when she drinks it and takes her top off at parties, but Dad doesn't think this is very funny.'
-------------------------------------------------- -
7-year-old Toby - 'My Mom and Dad talk funny when they drink beer and the more they drink the more they give kisses to each other, which is a good thing.'
-------------------------------------------------- -
7-year-old Sarah - 'My Dad gets funny on beer. He is funny.
He also wets his pants sometimes, so he shouldn't have too much.'
-------------------------------------------------- -
7-year-old Lilly - 'My Dad loves beer. The more he drinks, the better he dances. One time he danced right into the pool.'
-------------------------------------------------- -
7-year-old Ethan - 'I don't like beer very much. Every time Dad drinks it, he burns the sausages on the barbeque and they taste disgusting.'
-------------------------------------------------- -
7-year-old Shirley - 'I give Dad's beer to the Dog and he goes to sleep.'
-------------------------------------------------- -
And the best one:
7-year-old Jack - 'My Mom drinks beer and she says silly things and picks on my father. Whenever she drinks beer she yells at Dad and tells him to go bury his bone down the street again, but that doesn't make any sense.'

756 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:41:36am

re: #745 realwest

Good morning my friend, that's great news!

757 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:41:45am

re: #740 realwest

well right on time realwest shows up..
good morning!
hope that tooth gets fixed.

/ if the updates screw up your computer.. just reboot and press F8.. goto safe mode and set the date on the restore to yesterday.
very rarely do updates ever effect your computer negatively..

758 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:42:07am
759 Pyrocles  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:42:21am

Good old NPR.

re: #737 buzzsawmonkey

760 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:42:54am

re: #754 christheprofessor Duh, what's a restore point?

761 Iron Fist  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:43:16am

re: #745 realwest,

Congrats, bro!

762 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:43:30am

The Merry Minuet

They're rioting in Africa
They're starving in Spain
There's hurricanes in Florida
And Texas needs rain
the Whole world is festering iwht unhappy souls
The French hate the Germans, the Germans hate the Poles
Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch
And I don't like Anybody very much.

But we can be tranquil and thankful and proud
For man's been endowed with a mushroom-shaped cloud
And we know for certain that some lucky day
Someone will set the spark off and we will all be blown away

They're rioting in Africa
There's strife in Iran
What nature doesn't do to us
Will be done by our fellow Man


-- Sheldon Harnick @1958

763 jorline  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:43:38am

re: #742 OldLineTexan

Meanwhile, South Texas ranchers are holding up bullseyes so Dolly don't miss.

Just taked to a buddy last week...the cattle auctions in his little town have gone from 100-200 to over 600 head per as the drought persists.

Gonna be a lot of lean beef in the grocery stores in the short term.

Double edged sword, Oldline. True about the cattle, but cotton crop could get wiped out in south Texas. My in-laws farm and raise cattle in the RGV...lets hope it's a good rain without the winds...lol

764 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:44:41am

re: #757 HoosierHoops
Um, press F8 and set date to yesterday? Won't that give me the same problems tomorrow (assuming I DON'T get tooth pulled this afternoon, in which event I won't be on LGF tomorrow at all)?!

765 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:46:10am

re: #760 realwest

It's a stored configuration that works properly before you make changes to your configuration that might screw up your configuration.

/go configure!

766 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:46:11am
767 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:46:22am

re: #761 Iron Fist It's a little pre-mature for congratulations bro' - don't know if I can even get into trials - questions of insurance, my suitability for trials and stuff - but it's some HOPE for a CHANGE (and no I'm not talking Obama! LOL!).

768 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:47:11am

re: #764 realwest

Um, press F8 and set date to yesterday? Won't that give me the same problems tomorrow (assuming I DON'T get tooth pulled this afternoon, in which event I won't be on LGF tomorrow at all)?!

lol
no you are simply setting the restore point of the settings to your puter to the way they were yesterday before you downloaded the updates. I've never seen anyone hosed from an update..

769 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:47:19am

re: #751 Iron Fist

,

Who needs those pesky election thingies? The Obamessiah has come! All shall worship him and despair!

/

Oops. For a moment it got away from me. Obama thinks rather highly of himself, doesn't he?

His ego may be his ultimate downfall.

Think people across America are going to be excited that Germans love Obama? Not bloody likely.

770 jorline  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:47:25am

re: #745 realwest

And if y'all want to know why I need that e-mail system, please see my #176 and #310 - possible EXCELLENT NEWS on my cancer!

RW, GREAT news on the cancer, congratulations...keep fighting!

771 Alouette  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:47:42am

re: #630 lawhawk

Casualty update on Jerusalem terror attack - it's now up to 18.

23, according to Arutz 7.

772 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:47:43am
773 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:47:46am

Lopps,

The Sox ended their skid (for now) last night - John Lester pitched 7.5 shut out innings. Looking to see what Theo et al will do before the trade deadline. My nephew can pitch better than some of the bums in the bull pen.

I don't know why teams with weak bullpens don't designate their young starters for bullpen duty. The Red Sox have a ton of young arms, why not break them in?

Probably because some stupid Sabremetrics stat geek says that they shouldn't. Just like they say that starting pitchers shouldn't pitch over a hundred pitches in a game or that BA is overrated as measure of a players offensive performance. (Rolls Eyes)

The game was more fun when they let the players play it.

775 loppyd  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:47:50am

re: #767 {realwest}

Great news, handsome!

You deserve it....

776 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:49:18am

re: #765 christheprofessor Um, WHAT?! Geez CtP, this isn't anything I want to fool around with and I'm pressed for time; how do I set a restore point - is it what HoosierHoops said in #757?

777 3 wood  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:49:31am

Good Morning Lizards.

Sports Nerd Corner:

Michelle Wie is at it again.

Michelle Wie to play on PGA Tour again

(AP) — Fresh off a disqualification on the LPGA Tour, Michelle Wie has decided to tee it up against the men, again.

Wie will play next week in the Legends Reno-Tahoe Open, the first time she'll play on the PGA Tour this year, tournament organizers said.

It will be her eighth time playing on the PGA Tour, and she has yet to make a cut. The only time Wie has made money playing against the men was on the Korean Tour, in 2006, at the SK Telcom Open.

``It's not every day that a woman is given the opportunity to play on the greatest tour in the world,'' Wie said in a statement. ``This is a tremendous opportunity for me to learn from these great players and take those lessons into the future to becoming the best player I can be on any tour. This is another step in the process of making me a better player.''

Wie, who is 18 and attends Stanford part time, has no status on any tour. She has only one sponsor's exemption left this year. She will be playing her seventh and final LPGA Tour event of this year at the CN Canadian Women's Open in August.

For those who have not been following the ongoing train wreck that Michelle Wie calls her golf career, she was disqualified last week in an LPGA event for not correctly signing her card. When she commented on that she pretty much plamed the tour officials. A year or two ago she was disqualified for signing an incorrect score card and at that time blamed her caddy, of all people. Last I checked, caddies don't keep the cards or do the scoring, they carry the clubs and give yardages. Wie has never seen a day that she can not find someone else to blame for her own failings.

Part of this ongoing carnival is sexism on the part of the PGA tour sponsors. If Wie was 280 pounds and acne ridden she would not have a gost of a chance of getting a sponsors exemption to a PGA event. But cause she is pretty and gets attention she gets the exemptions.

Rather than wasting her time embarassing herself out there in public like some pin up, I strongly suggest that Wie work in developing her game and them come back when she grows up. All she has at this point is a booming drive that she can not control. Wie's short game is, well, sad. I literally could go to my local municipal course this weekend and find at least 10 guys/ladies with better short games than her. Until Wie develops a decent short game she will fail on any pro tour.

778 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:49:50am

/driveby

Carl in Jerusalem is NOT blogging the latest terror attack.

/I'm worried.
//I hate worrying alone, so I'm sharing my worry.

//driveby off

779 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:50:30am

re: #767 realwest
Do you have a link for the information? Don't bother if you don't have time now, but being just a few years younger than you I'm sure that I'll be looking at prostate issues soon enough.

780 EmeraldLakeEyes  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:50:38am

BenZ

Wow! So glad you posted. Have not heard from you in awhile. Was worried. How is the family doing?

781 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:50:45am

re: #777 3 wood Hey my friend - tried to send you an e-mail this morning but don't know if it went through or not cause I hadda use something called "Web Mail" - did you get anything (work e-mail addy)?!

782 christheprofessor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:50:50am

re: #776 realwest

I believe so (my anti-virus software does mine automatically).

783 Sceptic Tank  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:52:48am

Very plausible. George Clooney as national icon beset by political pagan played by Sean Penn. Ed Asner too old. Julia Roberts as idealicaly driven Mary. Meryl Streep too old. And Denzil Washington as a created character who exposes the memo as a legitimate fraud with Clooney as the victim.

784 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:54:33am

re: #764 realwest
Morning Realwest,
Keep us informed on the new cancer treatment. And good luck with the tooth.

Good news for me, my fridge WAS covered on the warranty and they fixed it no charge. It was the computer board that burned out after only 5 years.
I think I may purchase that whole house power protector.
I had to throw out a lot of food but at least the fridge is now fixed. YEAH!

785 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:55:18am

re: #779 EC Marm
Yeah EC, here is the link: [Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
And unless you're under age 40, y'all ought to get a PSA and doctors rubber glove exam every six months! PLEASE TRUST ME ON THIS!

786 pingjockey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:58:33am

re: #741 loppyd
What a buncha of mealy mouthed crap that was!

787 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 6:59:53am

re: #784 newsjunkie_ky
Good morning to you, too! I don't know if I qualify for the new cancer treatment - they are running trials here and in Great Britain and apparently I have to have insurance for them, according to my old oncologist (see my #310 above). I'm dropping off a printed copy of the article with my current oncologist today just before I go to Oral Surgeon for a "consult" and - if I can persuade him, a tooth extraction - though I figure he won't do that today.
IF he does pull tooth today I won't be on LGF for a couple of days.
I'm gonna try to get those stupid MS updates and pray it doesn't make me reboot in safe mode, press F8 and set restore date to yesterday - geez, that almost sounds like I know what I'm doing here! LOL!
Hope to see all y'all in a little while!

788 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:00:39am

re: #692 loppyd

Obama brilliant "new" strategy is that the US must pull troops out of Iraq & re-deploy them to Afghanistan. He pledged if elected he would take 10,000 troops out of Iraq & send them to Af'stan. What he is unaware is that Bush is already doing just that:

U.S. President George W. Bush ordered 30,000 extra troops to Iraq in early 2007 to try to drag the country back from all-out war between majority Shiites and minority Sunni Arabs.

The last of those reinforcements depart this week, still leaving 140,000 U.S. soldiers in the country, about the same number as when Bush ordered the so-called surge.

The last of the 30,000 extra troops sent over for the Surge will be gone by the end of July. The US already sent several thousand additional troops to Af'tan & is announced last April the plan to send even more troops to Afghanistan this year:

The United States intends to send many more combat forces to Afghanistan next year, regardless of whether troop levels in Iraq are cut further this year, Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Friday.

In other words, Obama's strategy is to do what the US is already doing, all the while saying the current US strategy is wrong, & insisting he was right to vote against the Surge which made the victory in Iraq possible.

Super genius!

789 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:00:41am
790 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:00:55am

re: #785 realwest
Okay, I see, Abiraterone blocks/reduces testosterone. You could mention it to your Dr. but I assume he already has you on some medication that is doing the exact same thing.

791 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:01:10am

re: #772 taxfreekiller
ROFL! Thank you TFK!
Here goes nothing!

792 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:03:17am

re: #787 realwest

Fingers crossed, prayers going out, and positive thoughts. Covering all the bases.

793 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:03:59am

re: #790 EC Marm Yes he does have me on a hormone medication which is no longer holding back the cancer - PSA has been going up for 9 months now, and this is a potentially NEW way to hold back cancer as it's a new way to block testosterone (I MAY have supersmart cancer which has somehow detected the hormone drug and or lack of testosterone, which means it's evlolved itself into getting around THAT hormone blocker!
GAH - no time to chat, gotta fix my broke computer if I can!

794 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:04:00am

Anybody see tfc3id lately?

795 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:04:09am
796 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:04:35am

Regarding the MSM Obama Orgy in the Middle East:

Let's hear it for the Rainbow Tour
It's been an incredible success
We weren't quite sure, we had a few doubts
Will Obama win through?

There you are, I told you so
Makes no difference where he goes
The whole world over just the same
Just listen to them call his name
And who would underestimate the teleprompter now?

797 opnion  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:04:48am

The Chicago Tribune is reporting, that the three Senator 'Fact Finding" trip is a clear Obama campaign event.
Barry always walks in front, and the other two defer to his agenda.
Did you notice that White soldiers have now been rolled out for photo ops?

798 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:06:19am

re: #797 opnion

The Chicago Tribune is reporting, that the three Senator 'Fact Finding" trip is a clear Obama campaign event.
Barry always walks in front, and the other two defer to his agenda.
Did you notice that White soldiers have now been rolled out for photo ops?

Well of course, what else did we expect for Obama's Rainbow Tour. Hagel is as tingly for Obama as Chris Mathews.

799 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:06:39am
A quick-thinking passing civilian and a border guard officer shot the driver dead Tuesday, July 22, after two vehicles and a bus were rammed opposite the Liberty Bell Park, 200 yards from King David Hotel where UK premier Brown stayed Monday. At least 18 people were hurt, one seriously. Two are children.


Israel needs to ban handguns.

Two disenfranchised Arab bulldozer drivers killed by armed civilians with handguns in 3 weeks.

These murders need to stop.

ACLU spokesperson.

800 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:06:42am
801 JeremyR  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:06:56am

re: #789 taxfreekiller

Obama and McCain do have a sub race going on..

"Who has the worst advisor's"

"Dead heat so far".

But the obamanation has more of em.

802 opnion  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:09:00am

re: #798 Honorary Yooper

Well of course, what else did we expect for Obama's Rainbow Tour. Hagel is as tingly for Obama as Chris Mathews.


With the MSM, it seems like if Obama & McCain played a game of HORSE, they would spot Obama the H the O & the R.

803 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:09:43am

I do not think obama is such a great orator. He ends his sentences emphasizing the last word as if he were always asking a question.

804 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:09:44am
805 SlothB77  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:10:52am

that will be one boring movie.

806 JeremyR  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:11:10am

re: #777 3 wood

Good Morning Lizards.

Sports Nerd Corner:

Michelle Wie is at it again.

Michelle Wie to play on PGA Tour again


For those who have not been following the ongoing train wreck that Michelle Wie calls her golf career, she was disqualified last week in an LPGA event for not correctly signing her card. When she commented on that she pretty much plamed the tour officials. A year or two ago she was disqualified for signing an incorrect score card and at that time blamed her caddy, of all people. Last I checked, caddies don't keep the cards or do the scoring, they carry the clubs and give yardages. Wie has never seen a day that she can not find someone else to blame for her own failings.

Part of this ongoing carnival is sexism on the part of the PGA tour sponsors. If Wie was 280 pounds and acne ridden she would not have a gost of a chance of getting a sponsors exemption to a PGA event. But cause she is pretty and gets attention she gets the exemptions.

Rather than wasting her time embarassing herself out there in public like some pin up, I strongly suggest that Wie work in developing her game and them come back when she grows up. All she has at this point is a booming drive that she can not control. Wie's short game is, well, sad. I literally could go to my local municipal course this weekend and find at least 10 guys/ladies with better short games than her. Until Wie develops a decent short game she will fail on any pro tour.

THE PGA welcomes Happy Gilmore. Could this be a movie deal in the making?

807 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:11:15am

re: #777 3 wood

I really blame her dad alot too..
She is such a great talent

808 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:12:19am

re: #807 HoosierHoops

I really blame her dad alot too..
She is such a great talent

I can't ever think of Earl or Tiger Woods without that Saturday Night Live skit playing in my head...

809 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:12:28am

re: #805 SlothB77

that will be one boring movie.

Only if it is told from the MSM/leftist point of view. Now, if it is told from the LGF point of view, with Charles as the hero, the underdog against the evil corporation that is CBS News, then it'd be very exciting.

The throbbing memo should be enough to make any liberal scream.

810 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:12:51am
Producer Mikkel Bondesen, (his credits include serving as executive producer on the USA Network series “Burn Notice”) is actively working on the adaptation with screenwriter James Vanderbilt.

Mr. Vanderbilt wrote the screenplay for the 2007 serial killer movie Zodiac—based on the nonfiction book by Robert Graysmith—and is currently writing the screenplay for Spider-Man 4.

Damn! I like Burn Notice & was looking forward to the next Spider-Man movie. Way to pee in my corn flakes, Hollywood. Speaking of Hollywood, anyone see "The Dark Knight" over the weekend?

811 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:14:13am

re: #810 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Damn! I like Burn Notice & was looking forward to the next Spider-Man movie. Way to pee in my corn flakes, Hollywood. Speaking of Hollywood, anyone see "The Dark Knight" over the weekend?

Me. Very good. Very dark. Very Gothic-novellaish. Of course, I thought "Sin City" was a perfect movie also.

812 JeremyR  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:14:29am

re: #804 taxfreekiller

Obama has an add out on the net,

"Needed full time teleprompter, will require remote battery-less operation."

Where do I apply?
Already have signs made up,

Get a clue, you bave no idea what you are talking about.
Try getting a real job, Communist outreach doesn't cut it.
Shut your mouth and use your radar sized ears to listen, process what you are told.
A Tornado brings more change then your dumb idea will.

813 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:15:16am
The throbbing memo should be enough to make any liberal scream.

OMG

The Throbbing Memo.

NC-17

814 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:15:34am

re: #810 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Damn! I like Burn Notice & was looking forward to the next Spider-Man movie. Way to pee in my corn flakes, Hollywood. Speaking of Hollywood, anyone see "The Dark Knight" over the weekend?

I saw The Dark Knight last night. Enjoyed it immensely.

815 Rancher  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:15:54am

Obama was listing a bunch of people responsible for the surge success including the Sadr peace initiative. I'll get exact quote.

816 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:16:36am

Morning!


Q: "How many Washington state employees does it take to change a light bulb?"

Answer 1: "31% more than it took 4 years ago."

Answer 2: "256. No, make that 42. I mean 129. Or maybe it's 133. I have no idea. But who's counting?"

Answer 3: "$765,000. Not including the L&I inspectors and the Spanish translator."

Answer 4: "That information is attorney-client work product and exempt from public disclosure."

Answer 5: "Are you kidding me? That light bulb burned out 7 years ago and Christine Gregoire is still studying the problem!"

817 sparrowlake  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:16:49am

re: #788 Kenneth

Obama brilliant "new" strategy is that the US must pull troops out of Iraq & re-deploy them to Afghanistan. He pledged if elected he would take 10,000 troops out of Iraq & send them to Af'stan. What he is unaware is that Bush is already doing just that:
In other words, Obama's strategy is to do what the US is already doing, all the while saying the current US strategy is wrong, & insisting he was right to vote against the Surge which made the victory in Iraq possible.
Super genius!

Yep, he's got it covered coming and going.
And McCain just stands there like a deer caught in the bus' headlights, while Obama outflanks him at every turn.

818 3 wood  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:17:27am

re: #781 realwest

Hey my friend - tried to send you an e-mail this morning but don't know if it went through or not cause I hadda use something called "Web Mail" - did you get anything (work e-mail addy)?!

Yes I did.

819 jorline  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:17:41am

re: #811 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Me. Very good. Very dark. Very Gothic-novellaish. Of course, I thought "Sin City" was a perfect movie also.

Sin City with Jessica Alba dancing on the bar...hot!

820 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:17:44am

re: #813 ibmkeyboard

OMG

The Throbbing Memo.

NC-17

No Communists under 17?

821 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:17:54am

re: #803 newsjunkie_ky

I do not think obama is such a great orator. He ends his sentences emphasizing the last word as if he were always asking a question.

Obama has clearly studies the standard techniques for oratory & speechifying:

1. Speak slowly.
2. Leave plenty of meaningful pauses
3. Regularly modulate your voice.
4. Stretch out key words.
5. Build to a crescendo.

Try it next time you order a pizza and see how profoundly meaningful you sound.

"I... will have... a laaaaarge pizza... with.... extra cheese, pepperoni... and aruuuugala... but NO ANCHOVIES!

822 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:18:04am

Just posted at Drudge (he provided no link):

Just one reporter, one photographer waiting for McCain as his plane landed in Manchester, NH, last night...

That says it all.

823 opnion  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:18:24am

re: #815 Rancher

Obama was listing a bunch of people responsible for the surge success including the Sadr peace initiative. I'll get exact quote.

That is a Dem talking point. Pelosi, even used it.

824 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:18:28am

re: #816 jcm

answer 6. That's not the change we were looking for..

825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:18:43am

re: #817 sparrowlake

I think the McCain camp is waiting to get a whole bunch of stuff together to whack him in debates when everyone is watching, and press can't spin Obama's "land of a thousand dances".

What I'd do.

826 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:18:49am

obama just called himself commander in chief then corrected and said 'potential'.
POS!

827 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:19:43am

re: #817 sparrowlake

Yep, he's got it covered coming and going.
And McCain just stands there like a deer caught in the bus' headlights, while Obama outflanks him at every turn.

See 822. McCain looks like a deer in the headlights when no one will cover him.

828 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:19:47am

re: #821 Kenneth

LOL, with a side of waffles.

829 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:20:09am

Listening to Obama speak - he just referred to himself as "commander in chief", then changed it to "potential" commander in chief. Really, just a slip of the tongue, but I think it shows that he has a very high opinion of himself.

830 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:20:19am

re: #817 sparrowlake

I dissagree about McCain. If you search for his comments & speeches, he does blast Obama for his stupidity and double-speak. The problem is, the media will not cover McCain other than a few well chosen (ie. weak) sound bites.

831 EC Marm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:20:41am

re: #777 3 wood
'Drive for show, putt for dough.' She can't putt, eh? Funny thing about golf is I really don't particularly enjoy the game but I have a 4,000 sq ft putting green. I just love the work and challenge involved in tending 3/8" tall (or less) grass. Probably a dozen times a year I actually putt on the thing. It's one hell of a frustrating yet rewarding hobby.

832 3 wood  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:20:51am

re: #806 JeremyR

THE PGA welcomes Happy Gilmore. Could this be a movie deal in the making?

It's really an insult to the pro's on both the PGA and the LPGA tours.

833 Pyrocles  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:20:56am

Everyone but "the Bush administration", I assume?

re: #815 Rancher

Obama was listing a bunch of people responsible for the surge success including the Sadr peace initiative. I'll get exact quote.

834 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:21:04am

re: #822 karmic_inquisitor

Just posted at Drudge (he provided no link):


That says it all.


have you ever been to Manchester?
/ some lizard is going to read that and wack me

835 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:21:11am

re: #826 newsjunkie_ky

re: #829 reine.de.tout

GMTA

836 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:22:08am

re: #829 reine.de.tout

I think it shows that he has a very high opinion of himself.

Ya think?

837 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:22:18am

re: #823 opnion

That is a Dem talking point. Pelosi, even used it.

I saw the Pelosi bit where she was expressing her BDS to a sympathetic counselor reporter. Of course, she was not asked about the fact that Congress' approval rating (that all-important measure of Fed effectiveness, based on polls) is even lower than Bush's...nor was she asked to reflect on her gas price promises of two years ago.

838 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:22:34am

re: #820 Honorary Yooper

No Communists under 17?

Throbbing Memo

I know I watched that in sex education 101.

Professor Plumb in the shade with Mrs. White.

839 jorline  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:22:41am

re: #829 reine.de.tout

Listening to Obama speak - he just referred to himself as "commander in chief", then changed it to "potential" commander in chief. Really, just a slip of the tongue, but I think it shows that he has a very high opinion of himself.

You have to be shitting me.

840 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:22:49am

Obama...now...press conference...says he spoke with Malaki who "wants flexibility in the withdrawl....which is understandable....and if I were him that's what I would want....But I told him....that my job......."


and then I turned the channel...I couldn't bear to here how he told Malaki who had been through a 30 year nightmare only to bring his country back from the abyss, how he was going to screw them over, and how he the messiah knew better.

Obama - The Insane One - and the Brainwashed Press.

One reporter was at the airport when McCain got off the plane in New Hampshire.

841 EmeraldLakeEyes  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:22:55am

re: #834 HoosierHoops

SMACK! lol

842 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:23:22am

re: #835 reine.de.tout

Better minds than obama, the a$$hat.
He is a complete and utter fool.

843 opnion  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:23:35am

re: #817 sparrowlake

Yep, he's got it covered coming and going.
And McCain just stands there like a deer caught in the bus' headlights, while Obama outflanks him at every turn.

"My friends", we are so screwed. I keep waiting for the pro Republican 527's to go to Defcon1.
The general public is not aware of what an insipid ass, Obama is.

844 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:23:35am

re: #836 WriterMom

Ya think?

Worship and adulation will do that to you.

/Not that I know personally

845 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:24:02am

Substantive issues in the WA Gov. race.....

In describing her Republican challenger, the governor tried tying him to President Bush, which is something she's been doing for months now. According to The Associated Press, Gregoire said there's no difference between Rossi and Bush.

“He’s so enamored with George W. Bush, he named his dog ’W,”’ the AP reported Gregoire as saying. “I feel sorry for the dog.”

Hey, attacking Dino's dog is beyond the pale, the Rossi campaign complained.

“People in Washington want a candidate who will fix problems in our state, not an incumbent Governor who spends her time attacking her opponent’s dog. We’re going to keep talking about issues that matter like controlling spending, fixing our traffic congestion problem, and improving our schools,” said Jill Strait, Rossi spokesperson. “It’s sad that Governor Gregoire has already come to the realization that she can’t win by talking about her own record, so she resorts to the same tired old strategy being used by Democrats across the country -- to tie all candidates in our party to the President.”

And it wasn't Rossi that named the dog, it was his daughter Juliauna, in gratitude to the president for writing a letter telling Rossi to get their kids a dog.

The back story is Dino Rossi was reluctant to get his kids a dog. The daughter, have met GWB while campaigning wrote GWB for advice. GWB responded that a dog helps build character and develop responsibility. Rossi let his kids have the dog, the dog got named W.

846 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:24:41am

re: #839 jorline

You have to be shitting me.

Nope. newsjunkie-ky heard it too.

847 3 wood  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:25:14am

re: #807 HoosierHoops

I really blame her dad alot too..
She is such a great talent


She needs to start looking in the mirror for the source of her problems.
Her short game (putting, chipping, sand shots) is bad. Just opening her eyes on the course and watching what her competition does should tell her that. She's not even a full time student.

Eventually the PGA will tire of her, some other cute young thing will come along as a cheesecake show and she will stop getting exemptions.

848 Pyrocles  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:25:38am

Exact quote from the front page of today's local newspaper (The Buffalo News": "Iraqi Government Agrees with Obama's Withdrawal Plans; Irks Bush Administration".

re: #840 DistantThunder

849 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:25:40am

What is Obama's IQ does anyone know? He can't be that intelligent, he;'s stumbling and stumbling.....

850 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:25:48am

re: #829 reine.de.tout

Listening to Obama speak - he just referred to himself as "commander in chief", then changed it to "potential" commander in chief. Really, just a slip of the tongue, but I think it shows that he has a very high opinion of himself.

He already thinks of himself in those terms.

851 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:25:58am

re: #849 DistantThunder

What is Obama's IQ does anyone know? He can't be that intelligent, he;'s stumbling and stumbling.....

167.

852 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:26:21am

re: #787 realwest

Good morning to you, too! I don't know if I qualify for the new cancer treatment - they are running trials here and in Great Britain and apparently I have to have insurance for them, according to my old oncologist (see my #310 above). I'm dropping off a printed copy of the article with my current oncologist today just before I go to Oral Surgeon for a "consult" and - if I can persuade him, a tooth extraction - though I figure he won't do that today.
IF he does pull tooth today I won't be on LGF for a couple of days.
I'm gonna try to get those stupid MS updates and pray it doesn't make me reboot in safe mode, press F8 and set restore date to yesterday - geez, that almost sounds like I know what I'm doing here! LOL!
Hope to see all y'all in a little while!

Hey RW. Good luck. My brother in law has a cancer of the esophagus and it spread to the liver. He was put on a clinical trial and it's working. So: hang in there. Lots of prayers. Think positive. There are a lot of new things happening in medicine, these days. Good things. My prayers are with you, too.

853 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:26:45am

re: #847 3 wood

She needs to start looking in the mirror for the source of her problems.
Her short game (putting, chipping, sand shots) is bad. Just opening her eyes on the course and watching what her competition does should tell her that. She's not even a full time student.

Eventually the PGA will tire of her, some other cute young thing will come along as a cheesecake show and she will stop getting exemptions.

maybe if she caddied for Paula Creamer for one weekend she'd learn from a real pro.

854 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:27:04am

"Our budget for Iraq has doubled because gas prices have doubled..."

and whose causing that?

855 abolitionist  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:27:14am

Michelle Obama Stumps For Husband In Colorado
Fundraiser ...about 150 that paid from $1,000 to $10,000 apiece ...

The money quote:

"I wish we had time to be divided. I wish we had time to be upset. To be angry. To be disappointed. I wish we did," Obama said. "Because if we had time for that, then things wouldn't be so bad right now. Instead, we're in a place where another four or eight years of the world as it is will devastate the life of some child."

Gulp. Sniff. *grabbing Bounty™ towel*
Doesn't that just... Oh be still, grappling hooks of my heart.

856 opnion  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:27:21am

re: #837 OldLineTexan

I saw the Pelosi bit where she was expressing her BDS to a sympathetic counselor reporter. Of course, she was not asked about the fact that Congress' approval rating (that all-important measure of Fed effectiveness, based on polls) is even lower than Bush's...nor was she asked to reflect on her gas price promises of two years ago.

She may be the dumbest woman in North America, but I have not been to all of Canada.

857 jorline  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:27:48am

re: #846 reine.de.tout

Nope. newsjunkie-ky heard it too.

Would love to see the MSM's response if it had been McCain...this would have pissed off the gods on Mount Olympus.

858 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:27:59am

re: #836 WriterMom

Ya think?


So? Been watching Think You Can Dance?

859 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:28:21am

re: #847 3 wood

She needs to start looking in the mirror for the source of her problems.
Her short game (putting, chipping, sand shots) is bad. Just opening her eyes on the course and watching what her competition does should tell her that. She's not even a full time student.

Eventually the PGA will tire of her, some other cute young thing will come along as a cheesecake show and she will stop getting exemptions.

She should take a page from Tiger Woods book. I don't follow golf, but when I've seen him talk about a loss, he talks about his mistakes. When he wins, he talks about his father, the opportunities he's had.

860 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:28:29am

re: #850 jcm

He already thinks of himself in those terms.

I think you're correct. And, he thinks of himself in those terms for the next 8-10 years!

He is really a completely vacant and empty person. I didn't think it was possible for someone to be more narcissistic than Bill Clinton, but I think Barack is - he just handles himself in a more charming manner.

861 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:29:01am

re: #856 opnion

She may be the dumbest woman in North America, but I have not been to all of Canada.

She would have the market for under-qualified cornered, except for that damned Obama person.

/

862 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:29:04am

re: #858 Golem Akbar

What a question!

OF COURSE.

863 songbird  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:29:07am

re: #829 reine.de.tout

Listening to Obama speak - he just referred to himself as "commander in chief", then changed it to "potential" commander in chief. Really, just a slip of the tongue, but I think it shows that he has a very high opinion of himself.

where is this? is there a recording?

864 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:29:27am

re: #846 reine.de.tout
obama does think his shiite doesn't stink. Did you also hear him tell the reporters if they had any questions for the other two senators. Right! Someone upthread said that he walks out in front of the other two. obama does think he is already POTUS.

865 songbird  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:30:02am

re: #851 jcm

167.

Smart but not wise.

866 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:30:05am

re: #859 jcm

He really does seem to be a class act...and if it is an act, he should have a fine career in Hollywood after he retires from golf.

867 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:30:10am

If we don't get a handle on that border region.......

What a genius.........

868 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:30:15am

re: #826 newsjunkie_ky

What show?

869 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:30:31am

re: #829 reine.de.tout

Listening to Obama speak - he just referred to himself as "commander in chief", then changed it to "potential" commander in chief. Really, just a slip of the tongue, but I think it shows that he has a very high opinion of himself.

How Dare you question Obama,

The man just ended the Iraq War,
Is putting our economy back into the fast tax change track.

And will give poor college professors health insurance.

/he is a Rock Star.

870 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:30:40am

re: #863 songbird

where is this? is there a recording?

Appears to be a Q&A session with reporters in Amman jordan, on FOX news right now

871 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:31:02am

re: #855 abolitionist

Michelle Obama Stumps For Husband In Colorado
Fundraiser ...about 150 that paid from $1,000 to $10,000 apiece ...

The money quote:


Gulp. Sniff. *grabbing Bounty™ towel*
Doesn't that just... Oh be still, grappling hooks of my heart.

I think I just threw up a little. What about the children of Iraq if her husband gets his way, the children of Tel Aviv if the mad mullahs succeed, the children of NorKo, Sudan......

*gag* *spit*

872 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:31:05am

re: #860 reine.de.tout

I hate to say it, but I would have even LESS respect for Barack Hussein Obama if he wasn't planning on the maximum two terms.

/Americans love a winner

873 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:32:09am

re: #862 WriterMom

What a question!

OF COURSE.

Buck! [love that word]

874 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:32:13am

re: #864 newsjunkie_ky

obama does think his shiite doesn't stink. Did you also hear him tell the reporters if they had any questions for the other two senators. Right! Someone upthread said that he walks out in front of the other two. obama does think he is already POTUS.

It's a campaign tour and they should ALL be forced to pay for it out of their private funds.

My tax dollars should not be supporting the Donk candidate's band-aid foreign policy tour.

875 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:32:58am

re: #866 OldLineTexan

He really does seem to be a class act...and if it is an act, he should have a fine career in Hollywood after he retires from golf.

I don't think it's an act, that's the way he is. I read stories about private interactions with him, and he's the real deal.

876 Rancher  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:33:05am

re: #823 opnion

re: #833 Pyrocles

Wasn't sure he mentioned Bush or the troops but praise for Sadr sure got my attention. What peace? This, from back in March?

The peace deal between al-Sadr and Iraqi government forces -- said to have been brokered in Iran -- calmed the violence but left the cleric's Mahdi Army intact and Iraq's U.S.-backed prime minister politically battered and humbled within his own Shiite power base.


Or this from today?

Just a week ago, Mr. Sadr felt confident enough to turn away a delegation that had traveled from Baghdad to Najaf to meet him and mediate an end to the standoff.

Since then, Dr. Allawi has authorized steadily increasing attacks by American troops, drawing the ring tighter around Mr. Sadr's insurgents and pushing closer to the shrine.

Now the insurgents appear weary and overmatched by American tanks, artillery and air power. Some guerrillas have fled, and American commanders here say they believe that they are close to breaking the will of the remaining insurgents.

877 WriterMom  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:33:59am

re: #873 Golem Akbar

OMG. We were laughing ourselves silly when Mary said it. That's buuuuuuuuuuuck. Poor Gev, I felt bad for him. I think Mark is not that great. Katie is a superstar.

878 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:34:30am

The moron just equated the Israeli Gov with that mayhem on the Palestinian side! What a smuck.

879 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:35:11am

Glenn Beck asked the question: Is Obama the anti-Christ? A charismatic leader what will lead us to total annihilation.

"Terrorism is so counterproductive, as well as immoral."


"When innocent people are INJURED"!


OMG

880 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:35:25am

re: #868 WriterMom
His press conference this am on FNC. He is still blundering through more questions.

881 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:35:53am

re: #875 jcm

I don't think it's an act, that's the way he is. I read stories about private interactions with him, and he's the real deal.

Do you think he would be available to tutor Obama on the following?:
* How to Handle Racial Identity Without Whining
* How to Recognize That You Have Benefited From Living in the US
* How to Show Gratitude to Your Benefactors
* How to Handle Success
* How to Handle Press Attention
* How to Handle Responsibility for Your Behavior
* How to Keep Your Head From Swelling
* How to Shut Up Every Once in a While

882 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:36:03am

re: #865 songbird

Smart but not wise.

167 was the self proclaimed IQ of one the classic trolls.

He's smart, but not knowledgeable, unlearned and experienced. Wisdom takes smarts, but also knowledge, learning and experience, all four are required.

883 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:36:25am

He now just condemned the bull dozer attack in Jerusalem but coupled it with a statement that the Palestinians need to see economic progress. Can you say "Moral Equivalence".

884 Rednek  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:36:33am

Charles needs to post a poll so we can vote for who should play him.

I nominate Kiefer Sutherland, Christofer Lee, and Matthew Lillard.

885 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:36:41am

re: #872 OldLineTexan

I hate to say it, but I would have even LESS respect for Barack Hussein Obama if he wasn't planning on the maximum two terms.

/Americans love a winner

Two terms? I thought he said 8 to 10 years?

/Or was that his jail term after Patrick Fitzgerald gets done with him?

886 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:36:52am

re: #872 OldLineTexan

I hate to say it, but I would have even LESS respect for Barack Hussein Obama if he wasn't planning on the maximum two terms.

/Americans love a winner

But he seems to think the two terms would be 8 or 10 years.

887 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:36:58am

re: #881 OldLineTexan

Do you think he would be available to tutor Obama on the following?:
* How to Handle Racial Identity Without Whining
* How to Recognize That You Have Benefited From Living in the US
* How to Show Gratitude to Your Benefactors
* How to Handle Success
* How to Handle Press Attention
* How to Handle Responsibility for Your Behavior
* How to Keep Your Head From Swelling
* How to Shut Up Every Once in a While

BHO could use some schoolin' fer sur!

888 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:37:01am

WE know obama can play basketball....but do we know if Obama can play poker? WE need a poker play in the White House.

889 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:37:06am

re: #882 jcm

167 was the self proclaimed IQ of one the classic trolls.

He's smart, but not knowledgeable, unlearned and experienced. Wisdom takes smarts, but also knowledge, learning and experience, all four are required.


Charlye Sarte

890 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:37:42am

re: #877 WriterMom

OMG. We were laughing ourselves silly when Mary said it. That's buuuuuuuuuuuck. Poor Gev, I felt bad for him. I think Mark is not that great. Katie is a superstar.

Agree. Katie is brilliant. She's all around great. Will is also incredible. I think it may between Will and Katie, in the end.

It's a fun season and I'm just totally entertained this season, more than any previous one, so far.

891 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:37:54am

re: #883 Nevergiveup

He now just condemned the bull dozer attack in Jerusalem but coupled it with a statement that the Palestinians need to see economic progress. Can you say "Moral Equivalence".

DISFRANCHISED.

892 pingjockey  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:37:56am

Blame the Jooooz for their opression. That is why the two state solution isn't working! Nah, it couldn't be the fact that the elected reps of the jordyptians are murderous thugs!

893 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:37:58am

re: #883 Nevergiveup

He now just condemned the bull dozer attack in Jerusalem but coupled it with a statement that the Palestinians need to see economic progress. Can you say "Moral Equivalence".

One way to aid economic progress is To Quit Blowing Shit Up.

/Carlos Mencia had it nailed

894 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:38:09am

re: #874 OldLineTexan
You are absolutely correct. We are paying for his campaign tour.

895 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:38:21am

re: #886 newsjunkie_ky

But he seems to think the two terms would be 8 or 10 years.

The extra 2 years is what it takes to transition administration after an election.1

1Chicago Political Manual

896 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:38:21am

re: #882 jcm

167 was the self proclaimed IQ of one the classic trolls.

He's smart, but not knowledgeable, unlearned and experienced. Wisdom takes smarts, but also knowledge, learning and experience, all four are required.

Very few don't know that Marxists policies destroy countries and economies.

"Setting very clear objectives..."

Does he understand how the enemy thinks....?

897 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:38:42am

DISENFRANCHISED


/SORRY

898 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:39:08am

re: #889 reine.de.tout

Charlye Sarte

That's right. Forgot the nic. that was entertainment that night.

899 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:39:42am

How could he say "INJURED terrorism victims?"

900 DistantThunder  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:40:24am

What really pisses me off is that he dictates to Patreaus.

"I do see some progress...."

901 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 7:40:27am

re: #885 Honorary Yooper

Two terms? I thought he said 8 to 10 years?