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Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 9:11:25 pm PDT

All things one has forgotten scream for help in dreams.

Elias Canetti

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1 wolfie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:13:05pm

Open sesame !

2 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:13:06pm

Not sure if I understand the quote...

I think the "fat women on welfare" story should have been on the front page of Fox News yesterday.

/random thought

3 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:13:16pm

Open......
Ahhh, ummm, urrr, mmmm.

/BHO

4 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:15:13pm

re: #3 jcm

Open......
Ahhh, ummm, urrr, mmmm.

/BHO

I support this thread now... Maybe. But I would have still voted against opening it, even if I knew it was going to be successful. I think.

/noo-ans

5 jorline  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:16:08pm

The house that Obama built.

6 wolfie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:16:18pm

As I get older, I find I have fewer & fewer dreams at night.
Or I just don't remember them when I wake.

Do we dream less when we get older,
or do we lose the dreams like we lose car keys?

7 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:16:45pm
All things one has forgotten scream for help in dreams.

I guess forgotten things are screwed if you don't remember your dreams.

8 wolfie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:17:23pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

Talk about a memory hole !

9 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:17:31pm

"All things one has forgotten scream for help in dreams."
And some that one has not forgotten, try as hard as he will.

10 jaunte  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:17:50pm

re: #2 Pawn of the Oppressor

There's another Elias Canetti quote that relates to that story:
"Justice requires that everyone should have enough to eat. But it also requires that everyone should contribute to the production of food."

11 zombie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:18:33pm

Remember my report called Racist Literature Distributed in Berkeley from a year and a half ago? Well, waaaayyyyyy after the fact, someone finally tracked down the exact cartoon that was being distributed in Berkeley that day. I posted it in the report just now in an update, with the caption,

[UPDATE:] zombietime reader Paul G. finally located this orginal version of the flyer shown in the TV report. This is what the color version of it looks like. I'll let you decide if it's anti-Semitic or not.

It only confirms my thesis (spelled out in the second half of the report) that left-wing hate and right-wing hate have become indistinguishable!

12 Racer X  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:19:13pm

I once dreamt about the solution to the world's energy crisis. It involved lightening and batteries. I promptly forgot the details.

13 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:19:15pm

Even in our sleep,
pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart,
until, in our own despair, against our will,
comes wisdom through the awful grace of God

14 nigella  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:19:39pm

Open thread. Are any of you as nauseated about Obama's Magical mis-speaking tour as I am. He's said so many insane things I can't believe anyone could possibly vote for him. Unfortunately Americans are part of the non- reality show, reality show generation. Be afraid, be very afraid......

15 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:20:25pm

"The colour of my soul is iron-grey and sad bats wheel about the steeple of my dreams."

- Claude Debussy, who evidently had very goth dreams.

16 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:20:25pm

re: #12 Racer X

I once dreamt Spock was my father.

17 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:20:47pm

re: #9 realwest

"All things one has forgotten scream for help in dreams."
And some that one has not forgotten, try as hard as he will.

I hate to think of the shit you have seen.

18 Racer X  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:21:20pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

I once dreamt Spock was my father.

LOL!

Did you grab your ears when you woke up?

19 Palandine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:21:20pm

re: #11 zombie

Ridiculous. My Zionist masters gave me a much cooler rifle than that.

They're still a little stingy handing out the Uzis, though.
/

20 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:22:04pm

Anyone notice over at "The Corner" at NRO, where some are debating the usefulness and/or importance of the Obama Waffle over the surge and PM Maliki's comments? Peter Wehner has the best of it.

No wonder I remain adamantly independent. Sometimes I wonder if Republicans have their heads in the game at all.

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

21 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:22:04pm

I know that the National Enquirer shouldn't be dignified with credibility, but it sounds like they dug in here and Edwards could be finished as a pretender to the "throne" forever. Thank god.

22 Bill Amos  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:22:06pm

For your entertainment DAN RATHER THE COMEDY continues

Dan Rather still suing CBS

23 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:22:09pm

Okay, is the guy in the video below cherry picking dumb Americans?

I love Top Gear, but ...

24 zombie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:22:51pm

Here are the latest "submissions" to the Mo Archive Mail page:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

From: Wahid N. (Jordan)
Subject: some respect

I was extremely disappointed when I viewed your website, and I read your comments about the free world, but I think respecting others is a part of freedom, and as in the say your freedom finished when others freedom starts, I know that lately was so many terror acts that kills many innocent people tagged by Islam, but as Muslim I tell you that these acts are far away from the real Islam, and who did these acts are Muslims only by name, we have a say in our holly Quran says that “anybody who kill innocent soul is like he kills all human being” and we as Muslim we respect all religions and all  cultures so it will be nice if you show some respect to our prophet which we love and respect.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

From: Agni A.

I thank you very much for this attractive and true pictures. Really you have done a great job. I love it and share it with my blog readers. I have post about your site in my blog. My blog is in Bangla language. So you might not understand anything.

I also want to get permission from you to make a new site [in Bangla] using the pictures from your site.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

From: M. Boateng"
Subject: bastard

nothing is funny but you are just a spid son of a bich

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

25 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:23:02pm

I'd rather have President Nasrallah than President Edwards.

26 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:23:57pm

I once dreamt that my father protected my sister and me from an attacker by killing him with a pickaxe.

Freud would have a field day with that, I supposed. But Freud was frakkin' nuts.

27 jaunte  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:24:40pm

re: #24 zombie
"spid sonsa biches wheel about the steeple of my dreams."

28 Grand Poobah  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:24:43pm

re: #19 Palandine

Ridiculous. My Zionist masters gave me a much cooler rifle than that.

They're still a little stingy handing out the Uzis, though.
/

Uzis are good if you want to make a lot of noise. If you actually want to shoot something, grab an M3 Grease Gun instead.

29 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:25:00pm

re: #14 nigella

Open thread. Are any of you as nauseated about Obama's Magical mis-speaking tour as I am. He's said so many insane things I can't believe anyone could possibly vote for him. Unfortunately Americans are part of the non- reality show, reality show generation. Be afraid, be very afraid......

Oh, I'm nauseated. I knew this was coming - I knew the Lord High Fellators of our MSM establishment were going to follow him around like a bunch of lost puppies - but it's still sick to watch, even when you know exactly what's coming.

I can't wait for the next time I go over to visit relatives in Germany, when I'll get to hear at parties all about Obama being "ze bleck Che Eff Kay".

...Maybe not, because the election will likely be long gone, but I just don't have the heart to go over to Davids Medienkritik and see what kind of silly shit the Europress is spewing. Not without having a few drinks first.

30 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:25:17pm
31 Macker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:25:31pm

Realwest: Check the previous thread.

32 jaunte  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:25:40pm

re: #9 realwest

Hi realwest, how are the teeth today?

33 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:25:43pm

re: #21 Bacchus's daddy

I know that the National Enquirer shouldn't be dignified with credibility, but it sounds like they dug in here and Edwards could be finished as a pretender to the "throne" forever. Thank god.

On anything that could result in a lawsuit I'd believe the Enquirer before the NY Times.

34 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:27:30pm

re: #12 Racer X

I once dreamt about the solution to the world's energy crisis. It involved lightening and batteries. I promptly forgot the details.

Do not stand out in a thunderstorm holding a car battery over your head.

'kay?

35 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:27:37pm

re: #17 Occasional Reader Don't think about it. It wasn't really all that bad. Just the stuff I sometimes dream about is all.
BTW, who wrote your #13?

36 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:27:38pm

re: #19 Palandine


They're still a little stingy handing out the Uzis, though.

I think not even the Israelis really use Uzis much any more. So you're not missing out so much.

37 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:27:39pm

re: #30 Cartman

Check this one out.

Hey, dude...have another drink on me!

Dont ya love that word, arraigned.

Why oshifer, yooz is arraigning on my parade? hick.....

38 Macker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:27:40pm

re: #21 Bacchus's daddy

I know that the National Enquirer shouldn't be dignified with credibility, but it sounds like they dug in here and Edwards could be finished as a pretender to the "throne" forever. Thank god.

And the skank is a blonde. Imagine that.

39 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:28:12pm

re: #24 zombie

++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++

From: Wahid N. (Jordan)
Subject: some respect

I was extremely disappointed when I viewed your website, and I read your comments about the free world, but I think respecting others is a part of freedom, and as in the say your freedom finished when others freedom starts, I know that lately was so many terror acts that kills many innocent people tagged by Islam, but as Muslim I tell you that these acts are far away from the real Islam, and who did these acts are Muslims only by name, we have a say in our holly Quran says that “anybody who kill innocent soul is like he kills all human being” and we as Muslim we respect all religions and all  cultures so it will be nice if you show some respect to our prophet which we love and respect.

++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++ ++++++++

Dear Wahid,

Most guys who come round this neighborhood acting like your "Prophet" end up in jail. Occasionally, they get burned to death by the FBI.

Just FYI,

With love,

- America

40 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:28:56pm

re: #21 Bacchus's daddy

Uh, what did the National Enquirer dig up?

41 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:29:04pm

re: #30 Cartman

Check this one out.

Hey, dude...have another drink on me!

Hah a piker!

She was arrested on suspicion of DUI and reportedly had a blood-alcohol reading of .50 on a breath test that was taken more than 2 hours after she was taken in.
42 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:29:11pm

Dreaming permits each and every one of us to be quietly and safely insane every night of our lives.

William Dement

43 wolfie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:29:16pm

re: #24 zombie

The last one is priceless! :D

NOTHING IS FUNNY, YOU SPID SON OF A BICH !

44 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:29:16pm

re: #38 Macker

And the skank is a blonde. Imagine that.


You gotta check "downstairs" to see if they are a real blonde. You can fool anyone with a bottle of peroxide.

45 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:29:25pm

re: #35 realwest

Don't think about it. It wasn't really all that bad. Just the stuff I sometimes dream about is all.
BTW, who wrote your #13?

Me!

Okay, not me. Aeschylus. Famously quoted by RFK in Indianapolis on the evening MLK was assassinated. His speech was credited with helping avoid violence that night in that particular city.

46 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:30:08pm

re: #37 A Kiwi Infidel

I don't know how in the world that dude is still alive. He must have drunk about four liters of whiskey in about an hour!

47 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:30:19pm

re: #26 Occasional Reader WHOA! How old were you when you had that dream my friend?
And does it recur?

48 Palandine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:30:42pm

re: #36 Occasional Reader

I think not even the Israelis really use Uzis much any more. So you're not missing out so much.

Drat. I always thought they were nifty looking, and I didn't think the Israelis made any crap when it came to guns. Still, it's not like I can afford the paperwork necessary to buy one in the Show-Me State anyway (yet). :)

Never get into buying guns. They're like Lays Potato Chips--you can't have just one.

49 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:30:43pm

The Chicago Cubs are getting seriously snake-bit by the Arizona Diamondbacks. The Cubbies seem to have all kinds of problems with their fielding this evening and the D-Backs are having no problems with their hitting.

Hope this game is a good omen for the election!

8-2 AZ top of the 8th.

50 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:31:23pm

re: #21 Bacchus's daddy

I know that the National Enquirer shouldn't be dignified with credibility, but it sounds like they dug in here and Edwards could be finished as a pretender to the "throne" forever. Thank god.

He still got a nice house outta the deal. It's so huge he could raise the lil' fella (or was it a lil' angel?) in one end of the mansion without Mrs. E ever knowing about it.

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

51 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:31:54pm

re: #46 Cartman

I don't know how in the world that dude is still alive. He must have drunk about four liters of whiskey in about an hour!


Unbelievable. My wife gets pissed off with me when go for my 3rd glass of wine, and here's Ronnie Wood in rehab after cleaning up 2 bottle of Vodka a day with Russian skank. Dunno how they do it.

52 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:32:01pm

re: #23 Archimedes

Okay, is the guy in the video below cherry picking dumb Americans?

I love Top Gear, but ...
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Jeremy Clarkson can be an anti-American asshole at times but he despises the global warming crowd.

53 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:32:13pm

re: #47 realwest

WHOA! How old were you when you had that dream my friend?
And does it recur?

I was in college, don't recall exactly what year. And no, it doesn't recur. Nor was it at all disturbing at the time; it was a righteous use of force, Dad protecting us.

54 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:32:19pm

re: #19 Palandine

Interesting avatar. Is it for real?

55 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:32:22pm

re: #30 Cartman
Hey my friend - good to see you! WTF " blood alcohol level was 0.491 percent "
I honestly didn't think anyone could LIVE with that much alcohol in their system, though on occassion, many years ago, I probably came close, but geez,
0.492?!

56 nyc redneck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:32:25pm

re: #26 Occasional Reader

I once dreamt that my father protected my sister and me from an attacker by killing him with a pickaxe.

Freud would have a field day with that, I supposed. But Freud was frakkin' nuts.

i often have scary dreams too. once i fought a tiger w/ a no. 2 pencil. (unsharpened). and i have battled gold fish 20 feet long. and run from monsters made of cement.

57 jcw46  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:33:06pm

Well, those forgotten things will have to fend for themselves. Any screaming in my dreams is from ME!

58 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:33:33pm

Heh...AZ 9-2 now over the Cubbies!

Augieeeeeee!

59 pat  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:33:34pm

The MSM has been ignoring shit the Dems do for 4 years. Edwards was caught a year ago, extensively followed by Death By 1000 Papercuts. It is disgraceful that the public is only informed of this now. Put Cheney in Edwards place.

60 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:34:13pm

re: #48 Palandine

, and I didn't think the Israelis made any crap when it came to guns

Oh, now, I didn't say it was crap, either. As I understand it (never fired one); incredibly reliable; high rate of fire; very compact. Just very hard to control.

I have fired an MP5; and I can see why that became the Uzi replacement. It's like you will a certain number of bullets to hit a certain spot.

61 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:34:31pm

re: #31 Macker I did and it still doesn't answer what kind of cuisine that is; of COURSE they serve eggs and burgers, but I still don't know what that "cuisine" is!

62 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:34:48pm

re: #52 Colonel Panik

Jeremy Clarkson can be an anti-American asshole at times but he despises the global warming crowd.


Oohh come on Colonel, how many European Countries can YOU name?

Go on, give it a go and no cheatin.

63 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:36:10pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

I once dreamt Spock was my father.

I once dreamt William Shatner was making my hotel, airline and rental car reservations...no wait...

64 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:36:21pm

re: #52 Colonel Panik

Jeremy Clarkson can be an anti-American asshole at times but he despises the global warming crowd.


My cousin was an AFS student to Nebraska, ( along time ago) and no-one in the High School he stayed at knew where New Zealand was. One thought is was country above Russia!

65 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:36:23pm

re: #55 realwest

Doin' OK, R-Dubs. You? Yeah, back in the day I probably coulda blown at least a .40, on several occasions. Glad those days are behind me. ;)

66 Palandine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:36:25pm

re: #54 MandyManners

Interesting avatar. Is it for real?

I don't know, but I've seen enough photos of road-striping that went over roadkill that it wouldn't surprise me. I put it up during the "Vero Possumus" phase of the Obama campaign.

I find possums very creepy, personally.

67 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:36:31pm

re: #56 nyc redneck

i often have scary dreams too

I really *don't* have scary dreams very often at all (and as explained above, that one was vivid, but not scary). My wife does, sometimes; I have to wake her and talk her back a bit.

68 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:36:32pm

I've fired an Uzi and an MP5 once each, and while the Uzi makes a satisfying noise, the '5 is where it's at. I don't own many firearms and I don't really want or need to acquire any more, but if I could have anything for my collection it would be an MP5SD. I dig the nasty little nines.

69 Omachka  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:36:39pm

re: #14 nigella

Open thread. Are any of you as nauseated about Obama's Magical mis-speaking tour as I am. He's said so many insane things I can't believe anyone could possibly vote for him. Unfortunately Americans are part of the non- reality show, reality show generation. Be afraid, be very afraid......

Very! Not so sure Obama doesn't think he's on some reality show and the prize is to get to be President. Scary stuff!

70 mikalm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:36:39pm

re: #44 A Kiwi Infidel

Yup -- the carpet's gotta match the drapes!

(Oooh, I'm bad!)

71 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:36:54pm

re: #55 realwest

Hey my friend - good to see you! WTF " blood alcohol level was 0.491 percent "
I honestly didn't think anyone could LIVE with that much alcohol in their system, though on occassion, many years ago, I probably came close, but geez,
0.492?!

IIRC correctly the LD50 (lethal dose 50% of population) for alcohol is .40.

72 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:37:19pm

re: #70 mikalm

Yup -- the carpet's gotta match the drapes!

(Oooh, I'm bad!)


No, just honest.

73 Cognito  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:37:27pm

I keep my forgotten things gagged and bound, hidden under the dark stairs of my subconscious, where they belong.

When I want to recall, say, junior high, I'll flick on the basement light.

Until then I'll just ignore the thumping.

74 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:37:31pm

I dreamed the other night that I bought a house on Ocean Ave. in Hyannis Port and Dolly Parton was there to greet me when I moved in.

75 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:37:33pm

30 more days and my oldest boy ships off to Fort Knox, Ky.....I'm not ready for this.

76 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:38:09pm

re: #74 MandyManners

I dreamed the other night that I bought a house on Ocean Ave. in Hyannis Port and Dolly Parton was there to greet me when I moved in.

She's a blonde, I think.

77 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:38:16pm

re: #32 jaunte Agh, Oral Surgeon thinks back upper right tooth (which had a root canal like 15 years ago) is fractured and needs to come out, but he first wants to check with my dentist and my endodonist about the root canal done about 10 weeks or so ago that might not have been done properly - it's right next to the other tooth.
But the S.O.B. made me chew on a stainless steel dental instrument so I'm hurting more now than I was.The Oral Surgeon, the Dentist and the Endodonist are starting to remind me of the three stooges, only they ain't anywhere NEAR as funny.

78 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:38:18pm

re: #66 Palandine

I don't know, but I've seen enough photos of road-striping that went over roadkill that it wouldn't surprise me. I put it up during the "Vero Possumus" phase of the Obama campaign.

I find possums very creepy, personally.

Ever had a cold, road-kill possum sammich?

79 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:38:18pm

re: #66 Palandine

I find possums very creepy, personally.

Me, too.

80 mikalm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:38:19pm

re: #66 Palandine

Personally, I think they're cute. Saw a great one walking on the wall at my friends' place the other night.

81 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:39:06pm

re: #76 A Kiwi Infidel

She's a blonde, I think.

She once remarked that it takes a lot of money to look that cheap.

82 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:39:25pm

re: #80 mikalm

Personally, I think they're cute. Saw a great one walking on the wall at my friends' place the other night.

Leave the brown acid alone.

83 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:39:59pm

re: #79 Occasional Reader

Me, too.

Possum in November.

84 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:40:10pm

At least they're not going to use foodstocks.

INEOS, the third-largest chemical company in the world and largest privately owned company in Britain, announced Monday that it aims to produce commercial quantities of bioethanol fuel from landfill waste based on technology developed in Fayetteville...The process developed under the leadership of James L Gaddy, president of Bioengineering Resources Inc. of Fayetteville, changes any carbon-based material into ethanol.

85 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:40:17pm

re: #81 MandyManners

She once remarked that it takes a lot of money to look that cheap.


Yeah, but I think all the effort and expense goes somewhere other than the hair-do.

86 Macker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:40:25pm

re: #78 MandyManners

Ever had a cold, road-kill possum sammich?

Now I have to wonder if those too will show up on Caprica....

87 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:40:30pm

re: #75 Maximu§

30 more days and my oldest boy ships off to Fort Knox, Ky.....I'm not ready for this.

We have your back, with prayers & support. Just an FYI.

88 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:40:38pm

re: #82 MandyManners

Leave the brown acid alone.

The wall possums are cool, because they eat all those purple spiders.

89 solomonpanting  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:40:50pm

re: #14 nigella

Open thread. Are any of you as nauseated about Obama's Magical mis-speaking tour as I am. He's said so many insane things I can't believe anyone could possibly vote for him. Unfortunately Americans are part of the non- reality show, reality show generation. Be afraid, be very afraid......

Yep. There have been many gaffes, as the MSM is apt to point out.
But it's not what you'd think.

90 mikalm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:40:53pm

re: #82 MandyManners

Possums are funny. I also like raccoons, skunks, badgers, and pretty much all wildlife.

Rats, however, are beneath contempt.

91 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:41:19pm

OK, so I went over to Davids Medienkritik - stone cold sober (if you don't count being carb-drunk from a pizza dinner) and right on the front page, as usual, David nails it:

Finally: It is particularly striking that so many Europeans proclaim such affection for Obama - without really being able to specifically explain why they like him so much. Simply being the leading anti-Bush is enough to be loved in Europe - yet it is the Americans who are continually accused of harboring a black-and-white view of the rest of the world.

92 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:41:21pm

re: #41 jcm Hey jcm!
From your link: "The Washington State Patrol toxicology lab says that a reading of .50 is the highest they have ever seen and that this level of blood-alcohol concentration would kill many people."
No shit.
Geez, how the hell could she see well enough to find her car, much less put keys in ignition, turn it over and drive it?!

93 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:41:51pm

re: #74 MandyManners

I dreamed the other night that I bought a house on Ocean Ave. in Hyannis Port and Dolly Parton was there to greet me when I moved in.

Mandy.... you're a lesbian.

Sorry, that's just the way it is.

94 jaunte  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:41:54pm

re: #77 realwest

Sorry to hear that. Seems like an odd way to discover a fracture; hope the pain subsides soon.

95 Palandine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:41:57pm

re: #80 mikalm

Personally, I think they're cute. Saw a great one walking on the wall at my friends' place the other night.

I think it's cool we have marsupials, but it's hard to look at them and NOT think "Holy crap, a giant rat!"

When I was a kid, we were driving to my grandma's. Hit a whole family of possums crossing the road--they flew like bowling pins. Sad, but impressive--the papa possum led his family straight out in front of us...

96 Bobibutu  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:42:26pm

re: #46 Cartman

I don't know how in the world that dude is still alive. He must have drunk about four liters of whiskey in about an hour!

if we could sober him up - think of the $ to be made on the seminar circuit.

97 nigella  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:42:29pm

Hey you all, Don't go there with the drug stuff. Flashbacks to my hippie past!

98 mikalm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:42:37pm

re: #92 realwest

Must have taken many years to build up a tolerance like that.

99 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:43:00pm

re: #87 Cartman

We have your back, with prayers & support. Just an FYI.

I'm proud of him, but I'm worrried......why could'nt he just joined the Coast Guard?

100 jaunte  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:43:01pm

re: #92 realwest

Not a good Guinness world record to try for.

101 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:43:17pm

re: #60 Occasional Reader

Oh, now, I didn't say it was crap, either. As I understand it (never fired one); incredibly reliable; high rate of fire; very compact. Just very hard to control.

I have fired an MP5; and I can see why that became the Uzi replacement. It's like you will a certain number of bullets to hit a certain spot.

I've fired the MP5, the Thompson, the Uzi, and the Sten, and of the four I shot the best groups with the Uzi. The Uzi was also the easiest to control the trigger timing on to get a nice consistent 3 round burst. It also has the best ergonomics...since the mag well is in the pistol grip it's very quick to change mags as we tend to be able to intuitively sense where our other hand is, if you understand what I am saying. Makes mag changes easier in the dark.

The Sten was the most fun though, but then I saw "The Guns of Navarone" way to many times as a kid.

102 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:43:20pm

re: #92 realwest

Hey jcm!
From your link: "The Washington State Patrol toxicology lab says that a reading of .50 is the highest they have ever seen and that this level of blood-alcohol concentration would kill many people."
No shit.
Geez, how the hell could she see well enough to find her car, much less put keys in ignition, turn it over and drive it?!

The kicker... the women had been a cop.
Lot's of practice to be able to hit .50.

103 mikalm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:43:28pm

re: #95 Palandine

Yeah, they're slow and not very bright. Cars or predators usually get them inside the first two years of life.

104 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:43:29pm

re: #45 Occasional Reader Well shoot O.R. I knew it wasn't YOU who wrote it (I mean you write well enough and all, but you mentioned GOD so I knew it wasn't you!)! LOL!
Very, very nice though - thanks for that one.

105 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:44:03pm

Is it me or is this thread really skipping along tonight?!

106 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:44:06pm

re: #77 realwest

Tel him you'll yank it yourself right in front of him if he doesn't f'in do something now! That should get his attention.

107 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:44:12pm

re: #83 jcm

Possum in November.


Some not-so-bright spark thought it would be a good idea to bring the Australian Brush tailed possum into NZ about 120 years ago to establish a fur trade. We now have about 70 million of the little bastards munching through 7,000 tonnes of green matter every night. They make for a great night time hunt for the kids.

108 Dustyvet  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:44:18pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

I once dreamt Spock was my father.


Dr, or Mr?...:)

109 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:44:45pm

re: #90 mikalm

Possums are funny. I also like raccoons, skunks, badgers, and pretty much all wildlife.

I disagree on possums (they's ugly), agree on more or less all else (even skunks... funny and cute, if smelly).

Raccoons are badasses. A raccoon in Panama City, Panama once planted himself and squared up with me, while his family/tribe/gang scurried away behind him. Gotta respect that.

110 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:44:59pm

re: #106 Cartman

Tel him you'll yank it yourself right in front of him if he doesn't f'in do something now! That should get his attention.

Its you. Slow down.

111 mikalm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:45:18pm
112 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:46:00pm

re: #105 realwest

Is it me or is this thread really skipping along tonight?!

Its not Cartman, its you, slow down. (I gotta go home)

113 Palandine  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:46:22pm

re: #103 mikalm

Yeah, they're slow and not very bright. Cars or predators usually get them inside the first two years of life.

Now, armadillos, which are continuing their lumbering march north, are cute.

Shame about the leprosy, plus they're also not too bright--seen lots of roadkill, no live ones.

114 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:46:32pm

re: #109 Occasional Reader

I disagree on possums (they's ugly), agree on more or less all else (even skunks... funny and cute, if smelly).

Raccoons are badasses. A raccoon in Panama City, Panama once planted himself and squared up with me, while his family/tribe/gang scurried away behind him. Gotta respect that.

Last summer I had to go into my boss's attic and kill a whole family of Raccoons

115 mikalm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:46:37pm

re: #109 Occasional Reader

We once had a Black Lab that had to go to the Doggie Emergency room after a dustup with a raccoon. They're much tougher and meaner animals than they get credit for.

116 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:46:42pm

re: #110 A Kiwi Infidel

Its you. Slow down.

Can I have a translation on that?

117 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:46:44pm

re: #53 Occasional Reader Did you ever tell your dad about the dream?

118 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:46:47pm

Nighty-night!

119 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:47:39pm

re: #114 Maximu§

Last summer I had to go into my boss's attic and kill a whole family of Raccoons

I would have refused.

120 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:47:45pm

re: #118 MandyManners

G'nite. Weet dreams.

121 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:47:46pm

re: #89 solomonpanting

Yep. There have been many gaffes, as the MSM is apt to point out.
But it's not what you'd think.

At least McCain corrects himself immediately in most cases (which always go unreported). Obama isn't even aware of his gaffes.

I like Geraghty's "Note to self" in this post.

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

122 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:48:11pm

re: #23 Archimedes

Okay, is the guy in the video below cherry picking dumb Americans?

I love Top Gear, but ...
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

That's just a Jay-walking segment taken from the Tonight Show.

123 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:48:18pm

re: #56 nyc redneck
Whoa, you do some seriously good drugs there nyc redneck!
Just kidding, I know someone smart as you wouldn't do drugs.........................much.
;')

124 Miss Molly  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:48:18pm

I don't think may people are watching the "Obama Field Trip". Everyone I know has gone off to see the Batman movie.

125 nigella  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:48:27pm

We had some raccoons eating dog food in our garage.Cute as can bee, but you should hear them fighting. Really nasty.

126 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:48:31pm

re: #115 mikalm

We once had a Black Lab that had to go to the Doggie Emergency room after a dustup with a raccoon. They're much tougher and meaner animals than they get credit for.

Oh, I grew up in raccoon country. We were under no illusions that they were pushovers.

127 nigella  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:49:03pm

PIMF Bee, meaning be....

128 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:49:06pm

re: #117 realwest

Did you ever tell your dad about the dream?

I think so. Don't recall.

129 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:49:34pm

re: #59 pat Pat, fer crying out loud WHAT was Edwards caught at? Any link(s)?!

130 pegcity  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:49:41pm

re: #11 zombie

hell the nazis made left and right indistinguishable

131 lummox  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:49:57pm

The closest I ever came to a 4.0 in college was my Blood Alchohol Level.

132 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:50:02pm

re: #124 Miss Molly

I don't think may people are watching the "Obama Field Trip". Everyone I know has gone off to see the Batman movie.

They're pretty much one and the same.

133 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:50:23pm

re: #101 Colonel Panik

Interesting. I've heard the Uzi praised for a lot of things, but "accuracy" was never one of them!

134 Tarkus289  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:50:33pm

I had a dream I was being stalked by a chrome Rhinoceros, it was very real and very scary, we made eye contact from a few hundred feet away, and he started to trot towards me, I woke up in a sweat.

135 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:50:56pm

re: #65 Cartman Me too, my friend, me too.

136 HelloDare  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:51:06pm

Just saw this on an open thread at Hot Air.


Edwards has one wife for each America.
pedestrian on July 22, 2008 at 10:18 PM
137 mikalm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:51:23pm

re: #131 lummox

LOL!

138 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:51:31pm

re: #133 Occasional Reader

Interesting. I've heard the Uzi praised for a lot of things, but "accuracy" was never one of them!

Spray & pray.

139 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:51:58pm

re: #119 Occasional Reader

I would have refused.

He tried to trap them, but their too smart...he tried to get help from the city and they gave him a cage. He's a big-game hunter, but he would'nt go in that attic......so he asked me for help and I went up there with his Remington 20 ga. and blew the two parents away and the babies also.

The Momma charged across the attic at me...teeth baring and all, but she got it right in the face. I did'nt enjoy it, but I had to help my boss.

140 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:52:20pm

re: #138 Cartman

Spray & pray.

... in Hebrew, naturally....

141 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:52:23pm

re: #129 realwest

Pat, fer crying out loud WHAT was Edwards caught at? Any link(s)?!

A little monkey business.

142 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:52:47pm

re: #74 MandyManners
Was she nice? Did she bring you a housewarming gift?!

143 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:53:20pm

re: #129 realwest

Pat, fer crying out loud WHAT was Edwards caught at? Any link(s)?!

They cornered him at a hotel where his alleged mistress was allegedly spending time.

{ Assume, etc. }

144 Racer X  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:53:34pm

re: #134 Tarkus289

I had a dream I was being stalked by a chrome Rhinoceros, it was very real and very scary, we made eye contact from a few hundred feet away, and he started to trot towards me, I woke up in a sweat.

Was this after that near miss in the crosswalk by that '62 Cadillac?

145 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:54:15pm

re: #36 Occasional Reader

I think not even the Israelis really use Uzis much any more. So you're not missing out so much.

Because for most armed forces the short barreled carbine style assault rifle has largely replaced the submachinegun.

I'm sure the Israelis still have quite a few Uzi's stashed away in their armories though.

The Uzi is still teh kewl.

146 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:54:18pm

re: #126 Occasional Reader

Oh, I grew up in raccoon country. We were under no illusions that they were pushovers.

And remember, don't get between them and the garbage cans.

/some of those buggers up here carry switchblades. :)

147 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:54:24pm

re: #141 jcm

A little monkey business.

Did you see that Hag he shacked up with? You would think he could afford better than that.

148 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:56:04pm

re: #89 solomonpanting
HUH! It's not like the AP to leave it's trademark logo off a hit piece like that!

149 HelloDare  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:56:31pm

re: #143 K~Bob

They cornered him at a hotel where his alleged mistress was allegedly spending time.

{ Assume, etc. }

She could stand to use some of his hair-care products.

150 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:56:38pm

re: #134 Tarkus289

I had a dream I was being stalked by a chrome Rhinoceros, it was very real and very scary, we made eye contact from a few hundred feet away, and he started to trot towards me, I woke up in a sweat.

Maybe it was a cousin of Aquatarkus?

{ Assume the usual ELP. }

151 solomonpanting  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:56:44pm

re: #121 K~Bob

I like this line:

But his liberal critics have been pouncing on every misstatement as a sign that he’s an old man.

So what's Obama's excuse? Ignorance?

152 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:57:10pm

re: #147 Maximu§

Did you see that Hag he shacked up with? You would think he could afford better than that.

Wow. That broad's got a few rough miles on her, eh?

153 BenZacharia  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:57:33pm

The wifffeee insists that all 'possums and 'coons are good for is vulture chow. I'll add ground hogs to that list.

154 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:57:49pm

re: #147 Maximu§

Did you see that Hag he shacked up with? You would think he could afford better than that.

GAK!

155 BigJohn  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:58:16pm

All that we see or seem

Is but a dream within a dream..............Edgar Allan Poe

156 nigella  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:58:17pm

“Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s.”Need I say more regarding Obama?

157 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:58:37pm

re: #152 Cartman

Wow. That broad's got a few rough miles on her, eh?

Maybe it's the reincarnation of the dead kid Edwards channeled.

158 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:58:39pm

re: #98 mikalm
and
re: #100 jaunte
Yes and Yes and I'll bet money it's not the FIRST TIME that the blood alcohol level was that high, just the first time being caught.

159 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:58:59pm

re: #153 BenZacharia

The wifffeee insists that all 'possums and 'coons are good for is vulture chow. I'll add ground hogs to that list.

They're exactly why God created the varmint calibers. ;)

160 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:59:26pm

Dayum!

Consider if you will all the well known phrases in this little ditty...

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;
No more; and by a sleep to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
The oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare bodkin? who would fardels bear,
To grunt and sweat under a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The undiscover'd country from whose bourn
No traveller returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those ills we have
Than fly to others that we know not of?
Thus conscience does make cowards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought,
And enterprises of great pith and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And lose the name of action. - Soft you now!
The fair Ophelia! Nymph, in thy orisons
Be all my sins remember'd.

Shakey had some chops.

And now I go to sleep, perchance to dream.

161 pat  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:59:27pm

my dreams are decidedly different. anyone dream chess moves? lol

162 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:59:41pm

re: #152 Cartman

Wow. That broad's got a few rough miles on her, eh?

Does'nt Edwards wife have cancer? So much for "in sickness and in health"

163 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 9:59:56pm

re: #147 Maximu§

Did you see that Hag he shacked up with? You would think he could afford better than that.

I didn't realize there was a picture in jcm's link, so I Google Image-searched.

Look who came up. On the first frickin' page.

164 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:00:02pm

re: #156 nigella

“Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s.”Need I say more regarding Obama?

ummm, errr, ahhh, mmm, that's ahhh, the err the ummm the mmm statement ahhh I err knew.

165 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:00:12pm

re: #142 realwest

Was she nice? Did she bring you a housewarming gift?!

Any woman that names her breasts 'Shock' and 'Awe', would be a really nice friend and bring a housewarming gift.

166 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:00:20pm

re: #145 Colonel Panik

Because for most armed forces the short barreled carbine style assault rifle has largely replaced the submachinegun.

Sure, but I think even before that, and to the extent the subgun is still used now, the Uzi was phased out in favor of (usually) the MP5 (and more recently MP7 and others). I know that's the case for the USSS, and I'm pretty sure it's mostly true for the IDF, too.

167 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:00:48pm

re: #106 Cartman
LOL! Well it wouldn't work cause a) I don't know which one to pull either and b) I'm not brave enough to do it if push came to shove and he knows it!

168 Racer X  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:00:57pm

re: #84 razorbacker

At least they're not going to use foodstocks.

Interesting.

More on their web site:

INEOS

The INEOS Bio process comprises three main steps:
1. Gasification of the prepared organic carbon material using oxygen to produce synthesis gas. The hot synthesis gas is quenched and cleaned. Heat is recovered to generate renewable power.

2. The cleaned, cooled synthesis gas is passed into a fermentation process, where it is consumed by anaerobic bacteria (the biocatalyst) and turned into ethanol. The fermentation broth contains a carefully controlled mixture of nutrients to deliver a reliably high yield of ethanol production. The bacteria achieve a very high selectivity to ethanol. The high yield and high selectivity translate to an outstanding process efficiency and leading production economics. The off-gas from the fermenter is used to produce additional power and heat.

3. The ethanol solution is purified to make anhydrous ethanol (>99.7% ethanol). This is subsequently blended into gasoline (e.g. at 5% ethanol concentration for E5 or at 85% ethanol concentration for E85 as required for the local renewable road transport fuel market).

169 Tarkus289  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:01:03pm

re: #150 K~Bob

Good point, I never made that connection.

170 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:01:42pm

re: #64 A Kiwi Infidel

My cousin was an AFS student to Nebraska, ( along time ago) and no-one in the High School he stayed at knew where New Zealand was. One thought is was country above Russia!

Interesting. I certainly learned geography in high school in St. Louis, including where New Zealand is.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's inexcusable that those Americans asked didn't have basic knowledge of geography, but those answers were thick. I just have to believe he cherry picked those people. Nine guys reel off countries and capitals and the tenth gives him a stupid answer, bang!, he's the one who ends up on film.

171 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:01:57pm

re: #163 Fat Jolly Penguin

I didn't realize there was a picture in jcm's link, so I Google Image-searched.

Look who came up. On the first frickin' page.

Is that a man or a woman?

/

172 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:02:39pm

re: #171 Cartman

Is that a man or a woman?

/


Thats a "thing"

173 solomonpanting  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:02:48pm

re: #148 realwest

HUH! It's not like the AP to leave it's trademark logo off a hit piece like that!

I noticed it's a Politico article, if that exonerates AP.

174 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:03:49pm

re: #109 Occasional Reader Hey, I lived in Panama for about 15 months or so, courtesy of the US Army, but was on the Atlantic side (where they get 180 inches of rain in the 9 month rainy season) and I never saw raccoons - snakes, one Jaguar (cat, not car) one black panther and a few mountain lions.
Where on earth did you have the encounter - was you in da jungle or outside of your hotel?!

175 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:04:21pm

re: #168 Racer X

James Gaddy has been doing some impressive work on that for quite a while over in Fayetteville.

Perhaps the stars are aligning in his favor.

Goodnight, all y'all.

176 BenZacharia  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:04:40pm

re: #159 Cartman

They're exactly why God created the varmint calibers. ;)

.22/250 Rem 870 series(?) was my choice. Don't have any long guns at the moment, but the .44 Ruger works well.

177 jaunte  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:04:47pm

re: #158 realwest

I had to watch an old friend die in a hospital bed when his liver shut down; if that guy could have seen what happens, the sight might have done him some good.

178 jcm  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:05:00pm

Man Foiled During Attempted Robbery At Tacoma Restaurant

A man who entered an upscale Tacoma restaurant and attempted to rob a group of people dining in a private seating area was foiled when a member of the group pulled a handgun on him, police told KIRO 7 Eyewitness News.

[snip]

"Before we knew it, (the doctor) pulls his gun out and told the guy, 'Get away, get out of this restaurant now.' The guy looked back and (the doctor) said, 'If you look back again, I'm going to shoot you,'" said Weatherby.

1 in 25 in WA State have CPLs (concealed pistol license).

179 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:05:13pm

re: #172 Maximu§

Thats a "thing"

He still looks like playground fodder for the bullies, doesn't he?

180 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:05:27pm

re: #149 HelloDare

She could stand to use some of his hair-care products.

She looks better in this photo. Not waaay better, but better.

Why can't horny politicians just learn to crank one off? Jeez!

{ Assume I hotlinked it. Is that bad? }

181 MikeySDCA  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:06:21pm

Sorry to be OT, but something hinky is happening. The big red thing on this link is almost undoubtedly bogus, and I suspect that clicking on some of the options might produce unpleasant results. I can't find a way to report this to anyone, but I thought you folks might be able to do something.

[Link: www.theoccasionalgourmet.com...]

182 Inquisitive  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:07:22pm

re: #99 Maximu§

I'm proud of him, but I'm worrried......why could'nt he just joined the Coast Guard?

Got a call today---caller ID said United States Gov.---I thought what in the world---when I answered a man asked for my son by name and I told him he was not here at the time and could I take a message. He was a recruiter and was calling all the Seniors from my sons school. He will be calling back next week. My son had talked to someone last year who had came to the school.
After I hung up, my hubby said I should have asked him if they allow those with ADHD to sign up. It is something me and him have discussed but have not discussed with our son the possibility of him not being able to join due to this, because he already has enough problems due to this disorder, and don't want to take this dream away from him if don't have to.

183 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:07:38pm

re: #174 realwest

Where on earth did you have the encounter - was you in da jungle or outside of your hotel?!

*Inside* the hotel... well, the hotel pool area, anyway. I was taking a midnight swim. I also saw some another evening at... gah, that area that they've turned into a nightlife strip but that used to be US military. Defiinitely raccoons, although a leaner model than their North American cousins.

184 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:07:57pm

re: #62 A Kiwi Infidel

Oohh come on Colonel, how many European Countries can YOU name?

Go on, give it a go and no cheatin.

Lemme see, starting clockwise from the top in Scandinavia:

Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece, Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Austria,Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Holland, Belgium, France, Spain, Andorra, Monaco, Portugal, UK, Ireland.

Did I miss any?

185 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:08:00pm

re: #181 MikeySDCA

Sorry to be OT, but something hinky is happening. The big red thing on this link is almost undoubtedly bogus, and I suspect that clicking on some of the options might produce unpleasant results. I can't find a way to report this to anyone, but I thought you folks might be able to do something.

[Link: www.theoccasionalgourmet.com...]

Firefox 3 reports it as a known attack site.

186 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:08:38pm

re: #147 Maximu§

Did you see that Hag he shacked up with? You would think he could afford better than that.

Is this the same bimbo that was hushed up by the MSM about 5-6 months ago while he was still a presidential candidate? Anyone know?

187 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:09:10pm

re: #143 K~Bob

They cornered him at a hotel where his alleged mistress was allegedly spending time.

{ Assume, etc. }

That was not the John Edwards I ...oh never mind. Yes it was."

188 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:09:33pm

re: #176 BenZacharia

.22/250 Rem 870 series(?) was my choice. Don't have any long guns at the moment, but the .44 Ruger works well.

I just picked up a Savage Model 10 Predator Hunter in .223 last week. Should do the trick right nicely, I reckon.

189 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:09:33pm

re: #162 Maximu§

Does'nt Edwards wife have cancer? So much for "in sickness and in health"

He's planning for the future...

Big time /

190 garycooper  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:10:06pm

re: #95 Palandine

I think it's cool we have marsupials, but it's hard to look at them and NOT think "Holy crap, a giant rat!"

When I was a kid, we were driving to my grandma's. Hit a whole family of possums crossing the road--they flew like bowling pins. Sad, but impressive--the papa possum led his family straight out in front of us...

Sounds a lot like Jim Morrison's famed "Indian Dream," which haunted and informed the doomed singer/poet/drunk to the end of his brief life.

“Indians scattered on dawn's highway bleeding
Ghosts crowd the young child's fragile eggshell mind”

191 Mike Nargizian  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:10:09pm

Shalit for Barghouti - Richard Silverstein FAR LEFT progressive zionist

I’ll trade you 300 Hamas activists and a Barghouti for a Shalit. The bartering now going on preceding a potential prisoner exchange between Israel and Hamas reminds one of teenagers trading baseball cards.

According to the report, Israel will free Barguti, Fatah’s former secretary-general in the West Bank, and the Hamas officials as part of the burgeoning exchange deal with the Islamist Hamas group in return for captive IDF soldier Gilad Shalit…
Israel has given its consent, in principle, to the release of 300 Palestinian prisoners, including Hamas leaders Hassan Salame, Abdullah Barguti and Ibrahim Hamed.


Note how talks about Saadat who was in a Palestinian prison sordove for murdering Minister Zeevi a few years ago.

Should Israel free Saadat it should be terribly embarrassing for the Olmert government and IDF, since a year or so ago they orchestrated a Jericho prison “break-in” that “liberated” (or “kidnapped” depending on your perspective) Saadat from a Palestinian prison in order to spirit him to an Israeli prison so as to ensure he would not be freed. If they free him I’ll be only too happy to republish the photos of Israel demolishing the Palestinian prison to ensure the dangerous criminal never saw the light of day.

He almost is gleeful about this guy getting out and couldn't care less that a kid on IDF guard duty is in a Hamas prison and to obtain his freedom Israel will have to release cold blooded murderers... to him he is bemused by the moral equivalence game.

192 pegcity  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:11:05pm

re: #184 Colonel Panik

Montenegro

193 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:12:23pm

re: #151 solomonpanting

I like this line:

But his liberal critics have been pouncing on every misstatement as a sign that he’s an old man.

So what's Obama's excuse? Ignorance?

He's like a cat:
* Sleek and swift;
* everyone wants to cuddle him;
* blissfully untroubled by short-term memory.

{ Assume the usual emoticats. I'm harmless. }

194 FishFearMe  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:12:29pm

re: #186 Bob in Breckenridge

Is this the same bimbo that was hushed up by the MSM about 5-6 months ago while he was still a presidential candidate? Anyone know?

Yes.

195 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:12:45pm

re: #143 K~Bob
Geebus, that sounds so weird and so funny ( not from Edward's perspective, though!) that I do believe it.
Hell, politicians cheating on their spouses isn't new, I guess it's cause Edwards wife has cancer that makes it seem to dirty (and not "Fun Dirty" either).
I think he's just a scumbag - and did y'all see what she looks like?!
Cripes, at least Former Governor of New York Eliot Spitzer got a good looking woman.

196 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:12:59pm

re: #184 Colonel Panik

You got Lichtenstein! Good show. that was the one I would have mentioned.

197 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:13:04pm

re: #184 Colonel Panik

Lemme see, starting clockwise from the top in Scandinavia:

Iceland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Bulgaria, Serbia, Greece, Albania, Bosnia, Croatia, Slovenia, Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Austria,Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Lichtenstein, Holland, Belgium, France, Spain, Andorra, Monaco, Portugal, UK, Ireland.

Did I miss any?

San Marino

198 SummerSong  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:13:11pm

Well, should the Edwards thing prove to be fact, how very sad for his family. Devastating.

At least it will be the end of those Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers I still see from time to time...

199 CyanSnowHawk  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:13:37pm

re: #180 K~Bob

She looks better in this photo. Not waaay better, but better.

Why can't horny politicians just learn to crank one off? Jeez!

{ Assume I hotlinked it. Is that bad? }

Doing that doesn't satiate their egos. I just guessing here, but I bet that Silky Pony has a BIG ego.

200 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:14:46pm

Could Edwards ressurect Rudy Giuliani's VP chances? A bipartisan absolution?

201 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:14:55pm

re: #153 BenZacharia Hey Ben! I meant what I said about e-mailing me if y'all want to chat about anything at all my friend.

202 lummox  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:15:05pm

Edwards would never have sex with someone better looking than himself.

/

203 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:15:06pm

re: #38 Macker

And the skank is a blonde. Imagine that.

Since Obama is so good at digging up matrimonial dirt....

Wonder who tipped off the Enquirer

204 wolfie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:16:06pm

re: #184 Colonel Panik

Macedonia

and the ever popular Kosovo (eek)


That's all I can think of.
Oh ! I guess we could throw in Vatican City !

205 Tarkus289  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:16:16pm

re: #203 SpartanWoman

..smells like a Clinton thing...

206 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:17:10pm

O-FORCE ONE! The Obamessiah's World Tour! Try not to puke, if possible.

If the Elvis and the Beatles toured, with the Rolling Stones as the opening act, they wouldn't get this much publicity.

207 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:17:23pm

re: #184 Colonel Panik

Strict rules of golf say that the Isle of Man is not really in the UK. The Channel Islands kind of are.
And what about Grand Fenwick?

208 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:17:37pm

re: #198 SummerSong

Well, should the Edwards thing prove to be fact, how very sad for his family. Devastating.

At least it will be the end of those Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers I still see from time to time...

Nah, those moonbats probably think what he's *ahem* allegedly doing is perfectly acceptable.

209 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:17:46pm

re: #162 Maximu§ So much for common decency, never mind the damn vows.
He is, as I said upthread, a scumbag and worse.

210 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:17:57pm

re: #171 Cartman

Is that a man or a woman?

/

"Ah heh-henh, that chick lookth like a dude." --Beavis

211 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:18:02pm

re: #166 Occasional Reader

Sure, but I think even before that, and to the extent the subgun is still used now, the Uzi was phased out in favor of (usually) the MP5 (and more recently MP7 and others). I know that's the case for the USSS, and I'm pretty sure it's mostly true for the IDF, too.

I don't think the IDF ever used any German guns except for the Mauser 98k's they had in the 1948 war of independence, and even those were not actually made in Germany but in occupied Czechoslovakia.
They are quite popular with collectors...a lot of people find it quite ironic to have a rifle with both the Nazi Waffenamt and IDF Star of David proof stamps.

The UZI btw was an Israeli improvement upon a Czech submachinegun they also used in the 1948 war, the VZ25.

212 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:18:02pm

Did we ever get audio or video of the clips that Rush was playing on his show today of Obama's stuttering?

213 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:18:14pm

re: #205 Tarkus289

..smells like a Clinton thing...

You never know. Obama went after divorce records so I think this could be his style too. Edwards endorsed him way too quickly.

214 wolfie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:18:48pm

re: #184 Colonel Panik

Slovenia !

215 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:19:11pm

re: #212 TheMatrix31

Did we ever get audio or video of the clips that Rush was playing on his show today of Obama's stuttering?

Those were wonderful. I hope he performs as smoothly in debates

216 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:20:03pm

re: #203 SpartanWoman

Since Obama is so good at digging up matrimonial dirt....

Wonder who tipped off the Enquirer

Asked that on an earlier thread and got a good answer pointing out the cui bono would point to Bill Richardson. Is he a Clinton creature?

217 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:20:43pm

re: #215 SpartanWoman

Those were wonderful. I hope he performs as smoothly in debates


I didn't catch them, unfortunately. It'd be great. I'm putting up Obama's ridiculousness daily onto my Facebook profile so all my idiot college friends can take heed.

218 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:21:00pm

re: #171 Cartman
That's Kos my friend. Markos Zunigas Kos. And I'd sure like to know what it was you fed into Google to get that photo Fat Jolly Penguin?

219 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:21:33pm

Richardson sort of dumped the Clintons didn't he?re: #216 lifeofthemind

220 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:21:55pm

re: #173 solomonpanting
Don't know - if you look to the left there's stuff about McCains age and all and, iirc, it was all attributed to AP.

221 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:22:09pm

re: #187 lifeofthemind

That was not the John Edwards I ...oh never mind. Yes it was."

Heh. Under the bus, Gus!

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

222 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:22:14pm

re: #204 wolfie

Macedonia

and the ever popular Kosovo (eek)


That's all I can think of.
Oh ! I guess we could throw in Vatican City !

Kosovo isn't a country, it's a province of Serbia. I deliberately left that one out.

And the Greeks will be upset with you for not calling it "The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia". No Ouzo for you!

Dang, I forgot the Vatican!

Bless me Father, for I have sinned.

223 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:22:39pm

re: #211 Colonel Panik

Interesting stuff. Thanks.

224 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:22:52pm

re: #219 SpartanWoman

Richardson sort of dumped the Clintons didn't he?

Wheels within wheels. With these creatures you never know because they are so corrupt they pick their own pockets for practice.

225 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:23:42pm

re: #217 TheMatrix31

I didn't catch them, unfortunately. It'd be great. I'm putting up Obama's ridiculousness daily onto my Facebook profile so all my idiot college friends can take heed.

I hope college kids are getting an earful about Hussein from their parents this summer. I envision parents looking through credit card expenses and banning further Obot donations.

Did Hussein really raise 25mil in a day? Where did it come from? Not from little supporters that's for sure

226 wolfie  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:24:16pm

re: #222 Colonel Panik

I salute you for deliberately leaving out Kosovo !
What a farce.

227 pat  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:24:37pm

re: #202 lummox

lol

228 solomonpanting  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:24:44pm

re: #215 SpartanWoman

Those were wonderful. I hope he performs as smoothly in debates

What are the odds Obama won't debate?

229 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:24:54pm

re: #218 realwest

That's Kos my friend. Markos Zunigas Kos. And I'd sure like to know what it was you fed into Google to get that photo Fat Jolly Penguin?

I knew it was Kos. See my #179.

230 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:25:20pm

re: #224 lifeofthemind

Wheels within wheels. With these creatures you never know because they are so corrupt they pick their own pockets for practice.

Unless you're Sandy Burglar...then you stuff them with incriminating papers from the National Archives to protect Slick Willy re 9-11.

231 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:25:29pm

re: #177 jaunte Ah gee, juante my friend, I'm sorry you had to see your friend die - was the liver damage from too much booze?
And do you really think he'd have stopped drinking even if he were able to see that?
Alcoholism IS a disease. I've had 3 different doctors tell me that only Heroin and Meth are harded to stop using. And it's CLOSE, too.
Still and all, I am very sorry for your loss and that yo had to watch it coming.

232 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:26:08pm

re: #184 Colonel Panik

Finland

233 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:26:23pm

re: #228 solomonpanting

What are the odds Obama won't debate?

I can't imagine that he would try a stunt like that! It would sink him faster than a sloppy performance

234 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:26:32pm

re: #225 SpartanWoman

I hope college kids are getting an earful about Hussein from their parents this summer. I envision parents looking through credit card expenses and banning further Obot donations.

Did Hussein really raise 25mil in a day? Where did it come from? Not from little supporters that's for sure

Makes me think "Bundlers" more scandals that they expect to hold off until after the election. If they win, they win and no risk. If they lose then they thjreaten civil war, Bush didn't nail the Clintons for these tricks. THey'll just throw a few functionaries under the enormous bus.

235 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:27:51pm

re: #183 Occasional Reader Ya mean near Howard AFB?

236 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:28:05pm

re: #234 lifeofthemind

Makes me think "Bundlers" more scandals that they expect to hold off until after the election. If they win, they win and no risk. If they lose then they thjreaten civil war, Bush didn't nail the Clintons for these tricks. THey'll just throw a few functionaries under the enormous bus.

I think the threat of unrest is preventing McCain supporters from speaking too loudly or putting stickers and signs out. Fear of Obat vandalism.

237 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:28:51pm

re: #231 realwest

Alcohol is the only addictive substance that can actually cause death during withdrawl.

238 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:29:02pm

re: #228 solomonpanting

What are the odds Obama won't debate?

um, uh, uh, um, ya know, um, uh, well, I, I, um, uh, you know, uh... And the beat goes on.

239 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:29:53pm

re: #237 Cartman

Alcohol is the only addictive substance that can actually cause death during withdrawl.

Nope. Benzodiazepine withdrawal can cause severe seizures and death

240 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:30:13pm

re: #14 nigella

Are any of you as nauseated about Obama's Magical mis-speaking tour as I am.

(raises hand)

Although I hope that at least some good will come of it as a result of the Law of Unintended Consequences.

241 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:30:13pm

re: #232 wannabuyaduck

Finland

Geez, how'd I do that. I was thinking about it while typing them all in but forgot to type it while trying to remember the names of all the Baltic states and those countries between Poland, Bulgaria and Russia like Moldova and Belarus.

242 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:31:13pm

re: #236 SpartanWoman

I agree. His more rabid supporters are itchin' for some "mischief".

243 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:32:46pm

re: #242 Cartman

I agree. His more rabid supporters are itchin' for some "mischief".

And I don't think that this fear will translate into more O-votes in November. The silent majority will be very silent.

244 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:33:30pm

Okay I got distracted with the Euro list and submachinegun talk.

Back to a more important subject. Possums. Palandine and Kiwi Infidel are right, possums are evil. They are the reason God created .22LR hollow points.

Hideous creatures.

245 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:33:54pm

re: #236 SpartanWoman

I think the threat of unrest is preventing McCain supporters from speaking too loudly or putting stickers and signs out. Fear of Obat vandalism.

Obama's former employers in ACORN are experts at stuffing the electoral rolls at the last minute with phony voter registrations. The Clintons built a machine that set new standards for shady fund raising. This gives the Democrats a skill set if not a marriage that will stand a good chance of winning if people hide. The anti-globalist moonbat kossite thugs will provide the shock troops for vandalism.

246 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:34:18pm

re: #241 Colonel Panik

Geez, how'd I do that. I was thinking about it while typing them all in but forgot to type it while trying to remember the names of all the Baltic states and those countries between Poland, Bulgaria and Russia like Moldova and Belarus.

Wouldn't it be easier like, if we list all the castaways on Gilligan's Island?

Was the island part of Europe?

{ Assume a three-hour tour. }

247 solomonpanting  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:34:31pm

re: #238 Bob in Breckenridge

um, uh, uh, um, ya know, um, uh, well, I, I, um, uh, you know, uh...

Rarely have I encountered such depth.

248 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:35:14pm

re: #237 Cartman Really? I thought Heroin or Opium derivates like Morphine would kill ya too?

249 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:35:57pm

re: #241 Colonel Panik

re: #241 Colonel Panik

Geez, how'd I do that. I was thinking about it while typing them all in but forgot to type it while trying to remember the names of all the Baltic states and those countries between Poland, Bulgaria and Russia like Moldova and Belarus.

I can relate to that -- which is why I'm not so good a proofreader. My mind will see something as correct even if it isn't actually so. Then once I do see the error (usually after, say, printing out what I was working on), it is so screamingly obvious.

250 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:36:06pm

re: #239 SpartanWoman
Uh, what is Benzodiazepine ?

251 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:36:14pm

We need to see a lot more of the teleprompter-less Barry.

252 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:36:27pm

re: #246 K~Bob

Wouldn't it be easier like, if we list all the castaways on Gilligan's Island?

Was the island part of Europe?

{ Assume a three-hour tour. }

No, definitely Polynesia. The yacht harbor the Minnow departs from in the opening credits is Ala Wai Yacht Harbor at the entrance to Waikiki.

253 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:36:33pm

re: #244 Colonel Panik

Worse part is that they are nocturnal. Had one cross my path on a guard patrol once and I got a little spooked. Hideous looking thing. Almost thought it was a rat.

254 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:36:45pm

re: #251 Cartman

We need to see a lot more of the teleprompter-less Barry.

Barry Uh.

255 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:37:42pm

re: #248 realwest

Really? I thought Heroin or Opium derivates like Morphine would kill ya too?

Nope. Unless you have a pre-existing condition. Withdrawl is of course very nasty, but will not in and of itself cause one to expire.

256 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:38:56pm

re: #255 CartmanHuh.
What is Benzodiazepine that SpartanWoman mentioned as also possibly deadly in withdrawal, do you know?

257 Inquisitive  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:39:29pm

re: #228 solomonpanting

What are the odds Obama won't debate?

Of course he won't debate..... no teleprompter

I have always wondered in that one speech where he gets all mixed up and then says he can hear himself...if he really meant he couldn't hear the someone talking in his ear telling him what to say?
Second video;
[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

258 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:39:50pm

re: #256 realwest

Not sure. Might be Valium.

259 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:39:55pm

re: #250 realwest

Uh, what is Benzodiazepine ?

Medications like Xanax, Clonazepam, Valium. Withdrawal is characterized by elevated blood pressure and high risk for seizures.
Come to think of it, barbiturate withdrawal carries a high seizure risk too.

260 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:40:33pm

re: #256 realwest

Where's our friendly(and not so sober) Pharmacutical technician red. He would have the answer to that one.

261 Bobibutu  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:40:42pm

re: #256 realwest

Hey RW - been trackin ya ...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

262 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:42:20pm

I think Viagra withdraw might be deadly.

263 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:42:27pm

re: #241 Colonel Panik

Geez, how'd I do that. I was thinking about it while typing them all in but forgot to type it while trying to remember the names of all the Baltic states and those countries between Poland, Bulgaria and Russia like Moldova and Belarus.

I like San Marino. They made good money from a casino after WW-II and Italy felt threatened by the drain on the mighty Lira. Italy threatened to invade. One of the first post war crises in Europe.

264 Throbert McGee  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:42:40pm

re: #134 Tarkus289

I had a dream I was being stalked by a chrome Rhinoceros

Last night I dreamt that I was visiting Ankara, Turkey -- a city where I actually lived for a few years when I was in elementary school. Although the dream-Ankara was initially very convincing and had some architectural landmarks from my memories of real-life Ankara, I began to suspect that I was only dreaming when I noticed that all of the stores had signs in Russian rather than in Turkish!

(In real life, I can read по-руccки with pretty good fluency, but I only know a couple dozen words Türkçe'de.)

Anyway, I'm only mentioning it because I love the experience of having a dream turn "lucid" like this.

265 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:42:53pm

re: #255 Cartman

Nope. Unless you have a pre-existing condition. Withdrawl is of course very nasty, but will not in and of itself cause one to expire.

Opiate withdrawal will make you crampy, vomit and sweaty.

Benzos are are also like etoh in the way withdrawal can produce delirium

266 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:43:08pm

re: #246 K~Bob

Wouldn't it be easier like, if we list all the castaways on Gilligan's Island?

Gilligan.
The Skipper too.
The Millionaire.
And his wife.
The Moooooooovie Star.
The Professor and
Mary Ann.

Along with assorted Russian astronauts, cannibal tribesmen, holdout Imperial Japanese Army soldiers who think the war is still on, and anyone else who dropped in.

267 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:43:38pm

Librium is actually used to prevent siezures during alcohol withdrawl.

268 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:43:43pm

re: #252 Colonel Panik

No, definitely Polynesia. The yacht harbor the Minnow departs from in the opening credits is Ala Wai Yacht Harbor at the entrance to Waikiki.

Yes, but they were blown waay off-course.

They used to get Russians and Headhunters, and so I figured it had to be near coastal Africa or maybe in the Med.

I think a lot of the headhunter actors played "Indians" in F-Troop.

{ Assume Hakawi Indians. It shoulda been "Fakawie." }

269 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:45:01pm

re: #182 Inquisitive

Let him hold unto that dream for as long as he can...recruiters reeled my son in when they parked the high-tech Humvee at his school and I guess my old Army stories did'nt help ether.

I'm gonna miss him, hey maybe I can turn his room into a Study....

270 Throbert McGee  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:45:24pm

Ahem, I meant to say:

(In real life, I can read пo-pyccки with pretty good fluency, but I only know a couple dozen words Türkçe'de.)

I forgot that the LGF hamsters tend to choke on too much Cyrillic.

271 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:45:31pm

re: #263 lifeofthemind

I like San Marino. They made good money from a casino after WW-II and Italy felt threatened by the drain on the mighty Lira. Italy threatened to invade. One of the first post war crises in Europe.


I'm trying to remember where that is. Squeezed between Italy and France like Monaco? What's the offical language there?

272 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:45:43pm

re: #247 solomonpanting

Rarely have I encountered such depth.

Did you hear Rush's 8 MINUTE tape of the Obamessiah today?

273 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:46:13pm

re: #269 Maximu§

I'm gonna miss him, hey maybe I can turn his room into a Study....

There you go, looking at the positive side. My dad turned my old room into a hobby room for all his trains. :)

274 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:46:24pm

re: #134 Tarkus289

I had a dream I was being stalked by a chrome Rhinoceros


It was the reflection off Giuliani's bald spot.

275 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:46:33pm

re: #267 Cartman

Yep either by a med taper or just a 48 hour regimen with occasional exttra doses for worrisome side effects

276 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:46:44pm

re: #272 Bob in Breckenridge

It was hilarious. And scary at the same time.

277 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:48:02pm

re: #271 Colonel Panik

I'm trying to remember where that is. Squeezed between Italy and France like Monaco? What's the offical language there?

Completely surrounded by Italy. The only bit that didn't get swept up when the House of Savoy, Manzini, Cavour and Garibaldi played Erect a Nation.

278 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:48:08pm

re: #262 DesertSage

I think Viagra withdraw might be deadly.

Is that like swimming in cold water?

{ Assume the usual shrinkage. }

279 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:48:52pm

re: #267 Cartman

Librium is actually used to prevent siezures during alcohol withdrawl.

And you'd also make sure the BAL was fairly low before starting the librium or serax

280 solomonpanting  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:48:54pm

re: #257 Inquisitive

He appeared to be fighting the urge to throw just any number out there for fear of being nailed.

281 suboptimal  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:48:58pm

I'm drinking if anybody's pouring.

282 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:49:14pm

re: #259 SpartanWoman
Whoa, yes! I had two seizures brought about by Valium withdrawal when I broke four ribs about 5 years or so ago.
I was sitting up in bed, looking at all the med's I had been prescribed, saw morphine and said "yep, I'm sure as hell in pain" saw valium (10mgs 6 times a day) and said "hell I'm not anxious about anything" so I just stopped taking 'em.
Next morning I had a seizure but fortunately had a "nurse attendant" with me and he gently rocked me out of it, called an ambulance and they had to pull the bus over and get everyone out cause I was having another seizure - don't remember that one, but do remember the first seizure. ER docs said "aha! Valium induced seizure." When my doc got to the hospital I never heard him yell like that (at ME) in the over 25 years I'd been his patient - things like "why didn't you call me before stopping taking them" and silly stuff like that. I honestly answered by saying "cause I'm a dumbass, I reckon!" He agreed.
But Valium withdrawal can sure cause seizures - didn't know it could cause death though.

283 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:49:23pm

re: #268 K~Bob

Yes, but they were blown waay off-course.

They used to get Russians and Headhunters, and so I figured it had to be near coastal Africa or maybe in the Med.

I think a lot of the headhunter actors played "Indians" in F-Troop.

{ Assume Hakawi Indians. It shoulda been "Fakawie." }

Headhunters come from Papua New Guinea. Which would make sense with regard to the Imperial Japanese holdouts as well.

284 solomonpanting  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:49:44pm

re: #272 Bob in Breckenridge

Did you hear Rush's 8 MINUTE tape of the Obamessiah today?

Nope. Got a link?

285 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:49:56pm

Raccoons. So cute, I thought, until a midnight raider carried away one of my favorite ducks. Now my ducks live in the Duck Fort Knox. And when I see a raccoon squished in the road (a not uncommon sight in these parts), I will say, "now there's another raccoon that isn't going to bother my ducks." My kids just groan when I say this, because I will say it even when I am something like 2 hrs. away from home, just for the satisfaction of saying it.

The villain in the above incident (or, it proved out, villainess) found her way into a live trap the next night and was transported to another dimension, or at least to a new land down the coast. Foiled by peanut butter and dog food.

286 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:52:50pm

re: #262 DesertSage
Hey Sage! Yeah, but if I ever get an erection that lasts four hours, I'm gonna put it to gooooood use, then go to the ER! LOL!

re: #261 Bobibutu
Thank you kindly!

287 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:53:07pm

I just came across perhaps the most unintelligible blog that exists at my.barackobama.com.

Whereas most Obamatons drink the Koolaid, he is freebasing the stuff.

288 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:54:06pm

re: #282 realwest

Seizures can become very prolonged and some people break their heads open during the fall.

289 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:54:19pm

This is an interesting scientific forecasting analysis:

The Keys To The White House

It seems very non-partisan. If this holds true, it's not looking good for the Republicans this year.

290 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:54:27pm

Why is it that the Firefox spell checker has "freebasing" in it but not "Al Qaeda?"

291 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:54:30pm

re: #204 wolfie

Macedonia

and the ever popular Kosovo (eek)


That's all I can think of.
Oh ! I guess we could throw in Vatican City !

Good one.

Reminds me of a joke told to me by a friend of my grandfather's when I was a kid:

The Pope was in ill health and near death, but his life could be saved if he could find a replacement for his heart. So one of the clergymen working for the Pope went to a large crowd in Vatican City and told them about the Pope's condition. All were saddened and said they would give their lives so that the Pope could have his. He said, that's encouraging, because the Pope needs a new heart, and he needs a donor, but it is too much to ask that anyone give up their heart for the Pope. And then all of the Italians in the square said "Taka my heart! Taka my heart! Taka my heart!" As they did this both hands came out ward from the chest into an open gesture with head tilting upward. [You know how Italians use their hands when speaking] The clergy man said no, I can not do this. The crowd insisted with more passion "TAKA MY HEART!" , "TAKA MY HEART!". Okay, the clergy man says, your kindness is beyond words. He says, but I can't take all of you, so what I'll do is throw this feather out into the crowd and whomever it lands on shall be the one who gives his heart. With that he throws the feather out into the crowd and the Italians shout with passion "TAKA MY HEAR!" (blow) "TAKA MY HEART!" (blow) "TAKA MY HEART!" (blow)

292 Inquisitive  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:54:34pm

re: #269 Maximu§

Let him hold unto that dream for as long as he can...recruiters reeled my son in when they parked the high-tech Humvee at his school and I guess my old Army stories did'nt help ether.

I'm gonna miss him, hey maybe I can turn his room into a Study....

Thanks I will---been doing some reading on the internet regarding this and can't come up with answer. Yes , but no. Can but can't. One said can get waiver if he is sr, does not take meds for one to two sem., is mainstreamed, no lesson plans and can take timed test. He has always been mainstreamed and has never had any special lesson plans or had any problem with timed testing. He doesn't do to well on test, but all way round ok in school. Has never been in trouble in school or with the law, and that was two other things pointed out in articles I have read. It says recruiter will tell them no, but there is ways if they can pass the DOD test. Guess we will have to discuss this with him and see about no meds last half of school, if he can do it.
I am sure you are going to miss him a lot.....No study...you will need that room....he will be back on leaves and will love to have his room still like it was.
WILL KEEP YOU AND YOUR SON IN MY PRAYERS!

293 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:54:43pm

I received a letter from Obama today, offering to double my donation to the DSCC so they can elect the biggest Democratic Senate majority in the history of mankind and "truly change America." I'm contemplating sending back the return envelope so they at least have to pay the postage on it.

294 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:55:04pm

re: #286 realwest

I've always wondered what a guy's supposed to do at 3 hours, 55 minutes? ;)

295 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:55:47pm

re: #266 Colonel Panik

You remembered the more detailed list. Probably made during an effort to create a GU (Gilligan Union) to help them compete economically with that other island economy, Australia.

I only memorized the older list, that ended with:

The Mooovie star
And the rest
Here on Gilligan's Isle!

So, ahh, Ginger, or Mary Anne?

{ Assume the usual etc. }

296 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:56:03pm

re: #286 realwest

Hey Sage! Yeah, but if I ever get an erection that lasts four hours, I'm gonna put it to gooooood use, then go to the ER! LOL!

I sure hope so RW :')

297 realwest  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:56:51pm

Well all y'all it's been grand and informative as usual, but I gotta go take some (prescribed) pain meds and get some sleep!
Hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

298 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:57:25pm

re: #293 wannabuyaduck

I received a letter from Obama today, offering to double my donation to the DSCC so they can elect the biggest Democratic Senate majority in the history of mankind and "truly change America." I'm contemplating sending back the return envelope so they at least have to pay the postage on it.

If you paste a brick on the return mailer do they have to pay? or is that an Urban Legend for getting rid of junk mail?

299 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:57:43pm

re: #293 wannabuyaduck

fill it full of non-identifying junk mail first. :)

/two birds one stone.

300 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:57:51pm

re: #293 wannabuyaduck

You should ask them if a lifetime membership to the communist party is returned, in appreciation for the donation.

301 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:57:52pm

re: #293 wannabuyaduck

Um, I think I'll send McCain another donation and get some sleep

302 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:58:33pm

re: #297 realwest

Night real, weet dreams.

303 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:58:40pm

G'nite, R-Dubs.

304 SpartanWoman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:58:45pm

re: #298 lifeofthemind

If you paste a brick on the return mailer do they have to pay? or is that an Urban Legend for getting rid of junk mail?

At least you can fill up the envelope with more paper and raise the postage a bit...lol

305 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:59:14pm

Good night ladies

306 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:59:23pm

re: #276 Cartman

It was hilarious. And scary at the same time.

The funniest part was when Rush went to commercials, came back, and the Obamessiah was still going um, uh, uh, well, I, um, uh...The guys a complete dunce.

And I'll say this right now: When he debates McCain, and eventually he'll have to, he'll get his clock cleaned, because Obambi won't be able to pick the usual lib pitchers to lob him softballs. McCain will get to pick guys like Britt Hume and Bill Kristol.

307 Inquisitive  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 10:59:27pm

re: #280 solomonpanting

He appeared to be fighting the urge to throw just any number out there for fear of being nailed.


I wondering if he has someone talking in his ear, when he wasn't looking at the teleprompter....he says "can't hear myself"......well I guess I have told my kids to be quite before because I couldn't hear myself think....I guess that's what he meant....but............he is running for POTUS and I'm not.

308 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:00:23pm

re: #285 wannabuyaduck

Raccoons. So cute, I thought, until a midnight raider carried away one of my favorite ducks. Now my ducks live in the Duck Fort Knox. And when I see a raccoon squished in the road (a not uncommon sight in these parts), I will say, "now there's another raccoon that isn't going to bother my ducks." My kids just groan when I say this, because I will say it even when I am something like 2 hrs. away from home, just for the satisfaction of saying it.

The villain in the above incident (or, it proved out, villainess) found her way into a live trap the next night and was transported to another dimension, or at least to a new land down the coast. Foiled by peanut butter and dog food.

I was wondering what your nic meant...

309 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:00:55pm

re: #300 Cartman

Maybe I could ask for a Che poster of my very own. Or one of those Comrade O posters.

310 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:02:33pm

re: #264 Throbert McGee

Last night I dreamt that I was visiting Ankara, Turkey -- a city where I actually lived for a few years when I was in elementary school. Although the dream-Ankara was initially very convincing and had some architectural landmarks from my memories of real-life Ankara, I began to suspect that I was only dreaming when I noticed that all of the stores had signs in Russian rather than in Turkish!

That's bizarre, I had a similar dream once. I dreamt I was driving around the Bay Area of California and all the highway signs were in Cyrillic. The only thing I could figure was some sort of alternate history where the Romanov dynasty never fell (there was nothing in the dream that suggested Communism) and the Russians colonized the West Coast, perhaps because the US Civil War had a different outcome and the westward expansion was interrupted?

311 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:02:39pm

re: #304 SpartanWoman

At least you can fill up the envelope with more paper and raise the postage a bit...lol

I like that plan. Doing my small part.

312 solomonpanting  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:03:29pm

I have jury duty tomorrow, so's I needs my beauty rest. Hasta luego.

313 Inquisitive  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:03:43pm

re: #285 wannabuyaduck

Raccoons. So cute, I thought, until a midnight raider carried away one of my favorite ducks. Now my ducks live in the Duck Fort Knox. And when I see a raccoon squished in the road (a not uncommon sight in these parts), I will say, "now there's another raccoon that isn't going to bother my ducks." My kids just groan when I say this, because I will say it even when I am something like 2 hrs. away from home, just for the satisfaction of saying it.

The villain in the above incident (or, it proved out, villainess) found her way into a live trap the next night and was transported to another dimension, or at least to a new land down the coast. Foiled by peanut butter and dog food.

I had a pet duck I had had for several years---he lived in our back yard, and I had a pool for him, and doggy door for him to go in and out of garage into area fixed for him. This spring a raccon got to him. My grandaughter and all of us miss Mr. Quackers a lot.

314 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:04:02pm

re: #306 Bob in Breckenridge

As Rush pointed out, Barry is just not "a thinker". He's gonna always have trouble on his feet, just as soon as the action gets fast 'n furious. POTUS material? I think not.

315 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:05:19pm

re: #309 wannabuyaduck

Maybe I could ask for a Che poster of my very own. Or one of those Comrade O posters.

I'm sure they have plenty of those to pass out as well!

316 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:06:32pm

re: #295 K~Bob

So, ahh, Ginger, or Mary Anne?

{ Assume the usual etc. }


Oooh, that's a hard choice. Ginger was a hottie. But Mary Ann always electrified me when she would peddle the bicycle to run the generator to power the radio.

317 Bobibutu  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:06:46pm

re: #283 Colonel Panik

Headhunters come from Papua New Guinea. Which would make sense with regard to the Imperial Japanese holdouts as well.

Also from Irian Jaya (the Indonesian side of New Guinea) - the Japanese sent in a large contingent to march thru and conquer/suppress the locales - none came out. We are talkin' rough territory and hungry locals.

To this day the Indos have very hard feelings towards the Japaneese.

318 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:07:13pm

Well, the Ambien's startin' to kick in. So, g'nite and weet dreams to y'all.

319 slokat  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:08:27pm

re: #84 razorbacker

They are now using Methane from the Dump to power a hospital in Santa Maria, Ca.

320 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:09:04pm

re: #314 Cartman

As Rush pointed out, Barry is just not "a thinker". He's gonna always have trouble on his feet, just as soon as the action gets fast 'n furious. POTUS material? I think not.

Barry is not a thinker. He will make a terrible president IMO. But he's going to win and there's nothing we can do about it.

McCain, while being a war hero and a patriot just doesn't have the charisma to pull this off.
I'm going to vote for him just because I can't stand Obama, but he doesn't do anything to excite me like Obama does for the opposition.

321 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:10:22pm

re: #319 slokat

They are now using Methane from the Dump to power a hospital in Santa Maria, Ca.

That technology has been around for decades, there's nothing new there.

322 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:13:34pm

re: #281 suboptimal

I'm drinking if anybody's pouring.

We gotta new Friday night drink going at my house....

-Rasberry Lemonaide (find it at the frozen isle)

-Orange Vodka

-crushed ice

-put a slice of orange on the glass and it goes down great.

323 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:13:56pm

re: #320 DesertSage

Well, I'd suggest pretending that McCain excites you. That's the approach I've taken. That and sending his campaign money. I'm doing it because I pretty much feel it's all gonna swirl down the toilet if we don't help Johnny Mac somehow pull this one out.

324 Inquisitive  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:14:07pm

Got to go lay my head on a pillow for awhile. Good night to all.

325 Bosch Fawstin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:14:26pm
326 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:14:46pm

re: #283 Colonel Panik

Headhunters come from Papua New Guinea. Which would make sense with regard to the Imperial Japanese holdouts as well.

You just aren't gonna let me take this into nonsense land, are ya?
Okay, I knew most of the large current European countries, and I even remember the names of The Millionare, and his Wife. But I'm trying to be absurd here. Especially with all these dream recollections goin' on.
I bow to your historic and geographical knowledge. Even when applied to the Isle of Gilligan!

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm gonna have ta' go soon. }

327 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:15:35pm

re: #323 Cartman

Well, I'd suggest pretending that McCain excites you.

:')
I'm trying.

328 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:16:13pm

re: #314 Cartman

As Rush pointed out, Barry is just not "a thinker". He's gonna always have trouble on his feet, just as soon as the action gets fast 'n furious. POTUS material? I think not.

I just hope and pray enough Americans figure this out before the election. It's obvious to you and I, and to most others here, but God I wish there was some kind of litmus test to qualify to vote.
Nothing remotely difficult, just answer who your congressperson and 2 senators are, and the President and VP.
And if you're living off the public dime, AKA welfare AKA our tax dollars, you should NOT be allowed to vote.
The dummycrats would say that's "racist", untill you point out that there are far more white people on welfare than black people.

329 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:16:38pm

re: #290 karmic_inquisitor

Why is it that the Firefox spell checker has "freebasing" in it but not "Al Qaeda?"

It's easier to write code when freebasing, than it is when jihading?

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

330 Rugby the Rat  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:17:44pm

HELLO! i a m the rat (Rattus novregicus) formerly known as Rugby and i am logged in from rat heaven! For reals.

In another thread, someone writeth:

re: #438 Fierce Guppy

Or, the grand cosmic leprechaun did it.

FYI there is NO SUCH person as the so-called ''grand cosmic leprechaun"?! and i should know because i live in heaven, duh.

BUT there is a Grand Comix Leperchaun! who is the patron saint of graphic novels and Hansen's disease. obviously you can see why there is some comfusion on the matter.

similalry, just to clear up any controversy, there really is a Flying Linguine w/ Calm sauce MOnster but she requetsts that you plz not call her a "Flying SPAZGHETTI monster" because that would be heresy!!!?! Okay?

love,
rugby

331 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:18:55pm

re: #294 Cartman

I've always wondered what a guy's supposed to do at 3 hours, 55 minutes? ;)

Squeeze it a couple times?

332 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:19:41pm

Wow, speaking of drugs and alcohol content...

333 Bosch Fawstin  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:20:23pm

Did I hear 'graphic novel'? I'm a cartoonist working on a graphic novel.

334 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:21:12pm

#330 made the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. ;)

335 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:21:41pm

re: #316 Colonel Panik

Oooh, that's a hard choice. Ginger was a hottie. But Mary Ann always electrified me when she would peddle the bicycle to run the generator to power the radio.

Ginger always scared me. I'd go runnin' to Mary Anne if I was Gilligan.

336 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:21:47pm

re: #330 Rugby the Rat

HELLO! i a m the rat (Rattus novregicus) formerly known as Rugby and i am logged in from rat heaven! For reals.

In another thread, someone writeth:

FYI there is NO SUCH person as the so-called ''grand cosmic leprechaun"?! and i should know because i live in heaven, duh.

BUT there is a Grand Comix Leperchaun! who is the patron saint of graphic novels and Hansen's disease. obviously you can see why there is some comfusion on the matter.

similalry, just to clear up any controversy, there really is a Flying Linguine w/ Calm sauce MOnster but she requetsts that you plz not call her a "Flying SPAZGHETTI monster" because that would be heresy!!!?! Okay?

love,
rugby

What's Calm sauce? Do you mean clam?

337 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:23:06pm

re: #335 K~Bob

Ginger always scared me. I'd go runnin' to Mary Anne if I was Gilligan.

/Well, she has the weed!

338 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:25:19pm

re: #281 suboptimal

I'm drinking if anybody's pouring.

since i'm pouring straight down my throat, you're SOL.

%-)

339 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:25:31pm

re: #336 Bob in Breckenridge

What's Calm sauce? Do you mean clam?

Calm sauce goes on the spazghetti.

340 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:26:17pm

re: #330 Rugby the Rat

/me lets the cats out......

341 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:26:56pm

re: #340 redc1c4

Careful, I just put down some glue traps.

342 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:27:03pm

re: #336 Bob in Breckenridge

What's Calm sauce? Do you mean clam?

you make it with diazepam................ %-)

343 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:28:19pm

Anyone having problems watching youtube vids with FF3? They play using IE7 and Safari for Windows, but only play for 2 seconds using FF, and I deleted all cookies, etc, and tried uninstalling and reinstalling adobe Flash.

344 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:28:22pm

re: #341 BlueCanuck

Careful, I just put down some glue traps.

those are just evil.....

(i'll get some shrimp to bring da boyz back. %-)

345 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:29:30pm

re: #343 Bob in Breckenridge

Anyone having problems watching youtube vids with FF3? They play using IE7 and Safari for Windows, but only play for 2 seconds using FF, and I deleted all cookies, etc, and tried uninstalling and reinstalling adobe Flash.

and here i thought it was just me.....

/upside is, i spend *way* less more time on pr0n. %-)

346 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:30:30pm

re: #344 redc1c4

those are just evil.....

(i'll get some shrimp to bring da boyz back. %-)

Well, yeah. We are talking rats thought right?

347 Cartman  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:31:26pm

re: #343 Bob in Breckenridge

Works fine for me with FF 3, K4.

348 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:31:32pm

re: #339 DesertSage

Calm sauce goes on the spazghetti.

Is that like spaghetti for spastic people, to calm them down?

349 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:32:16pm

re: #326 K~Bob

You just aren't gonna let me take this into nonsense land, are ya?
Okay, I knew most of the large current European countries, and I even remember the names of The Millionare, and his Wife.

Okay, you got me there. I can't remember Thurston Howell III's wife's name, although I do remember that he called her "lovey".

One of the owners of the Honolulu Advertiser and Star Bulletin was named Thurston Twigg-Smith. IIRC his ancestors were missionaries who came to the islands to convert the Hawaiians. Always figured he was the inspiration for the name of the Millionaire.

350 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:32:57pm

re: #347 Cartman

Works fine for me with FF 3, K4.

What's K4?

351 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:33:53pm

re: #337 Bob in Breckenridge

/Well, she has the weed!

Heh.

352 DesertSage  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:34:20pm

re: #350 Bob in Breckenridge

What's K4?

I think it's the fourth tallest mountain?

353 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:35:42pm

re: #344 redc1c4

those are just evil.....


Eggzackly. Shop vac is best. Make a neat sound, too.

{ Assume the usual }

354 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:35:48pm

re: #322 Maximu§

We gotta new Friday night drink going at my house....

-Rasberry Lemonaide (find it at the frozen isle)

-Orange Vodka

-crushed ice

-put a slice of orange on the glass and it goes down great.

add some frozen raspberries, and don't mix the lemonade.... just use the slush out of the can...... and make sure you keep the vodka in the freezer.

lemonade paste
frozen berries,
ice
ice cold vodka
blend until smooth
(proportions to taste)

repeat PRN.

/w*rks better this way. trust me %-)

355 Bob in Breckenridge  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:36:07pm

re: #352 DesertSage

I think it's the fourth tallest mountain?

Thanks, but I don't think that's what Cartman meant.

356 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:36:54pm

re: #346 BlueCanuck

Well, yeah. We are talking rats thought right?

rats will either be able to pull off or will chew off...... either way, i prefer something a little more certain.

357 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:38:57pm

re: #323 Cartman

Well, I'd suggest pretending that McCain excites you. That's the approach I've taken. That and sending his campaign money. I'm doing it because I pretty much feel it's all gonna swirl down the toilet if we don't help Johnny Mac somehow pull this one out.

I'd crawl over broken glass to vote for McCain at this point.

358 freetoken  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:40:41pm

re: #20 K~Bob

Anyone notice over at "The Corner" at NRO, where some are debating the usefulness and/or importance of the Obama Waffle over the surge and PM Maliki's comments? Peter Wehner has the best of it.

Over the last year or so I've become increasingly frustrated with NRO... a considerable number or their contributors/entries do seem to have developed a strong tendency to want to generate/second the standard campaign talking points.

Agree with Wehner that on the face of it Maliki's comments help Obama. However, they might also entrap Obama. We are still over 3 months from the general election, and if Maliki has a change of heart about these matters then Obama will be on the hot seat to also change to whatever Maliki might decide.

359 slokat  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:41:38pm

re: #323 Cartman

Well, I'd suggest pretending that McCain excites you.

Political Viagra!?

360 wannabuyaduck  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:41:53pm

re: #308 Bob in Breckenridge

I was wondering what your nic meant...

This guy said it first -- [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

When I acquired some quackers (among their talents they make short work of the local garden snails, abundant here thanks to the efforts of a Gold Rush-era Frenchman intent on creating and cornering a local escargot market), Mr. Wannabuy would repeat the antique catch phrase.

361 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:42:56pm

re: #293 wannabuyaduck

I received a letter from Obama today, offering to double my donation to the DSCC so they can elect the biggest Democratic Senate majority in the history of mankind and "truly change America." I'm contemplating sending back the return envelope so they at least have to pay the postage on it.

load as much crap into the envelope as you can (heavier = more postage). additional thing to remember is, if you fill it with shredded paper, etc.... it will clog the automated machine that opens all these replies, and may even take out a few donations with it, as they unclog the jam that's created.

/i do it with all unsolicited mail to my house. %-)

362 K~Bob  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:47:13pm

re: #349 Colonel Panik

Okay, you got me there. I can't remember Thurston Howell III's wife's name, although I do remember that he called her "lovey".

One of the owners of the Honolulu Advertiser and Star Bulletin was named Thurston Twigg-Smith. IIRC his ancestors were missionaries who came to the islands to convert the Hawaiians. Always figured he was the inspiration for the name of the Millionaire.

Dang. I thought that was her name. Looks like it was really "Eunice (Lovey) Wentworth" before marrying ol' Thurston. Evidently Thurston said the Wentworths were loaded.

Well, I'm off to bed. Perchance to think about a lovely island retreat, minus the fat guy, the high school teacher, the goof, and the old folks.

Nite all!

363 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:50:01pm

re: #357 Colonel Panik

I'd crawl over broken glass to vote for McCain at this point.

voting for Mc Lame *is* crawling over broken glass......

/gonna do it, but that don't mean i have to like it.

364 slokat  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:55:29pm

McCain Campaign is looking for input on future commercials: The Media is in Love with Barack

voting enabled... "just too good to be true" is leading as the background song.

365 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 22, 2008 11:59:49pm

hey blue!

remind me i gotta get some z's tonight...... it's a busy week:

tomorrow night we're going to see Steely Dan at the Nokia with our neighbors, and fryday we're going to see LosLosat the Geek with another couple....

call it a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong weekend!

/fruitcup?

366 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:01:27am

re: #365 redc1c4

No problem buddy. What time to want to get kicked(thrown) out of here?

367 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:01:48am

re: #364 slokat

McCain Campaign is looking for input on future commercials: The Media is in Love with Barack

voting enabled... "just too good to be true" is leading as the background song.

With a, ahem, "guy", impersonating Chrissy Matthews, aka tingle boy, singing it. That's a true waste of a GREAT Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons song, though...

368 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:02:02am

re: #364 slokat

McCain Campaign is looking for input on future commercials: The Media is in Love with Barack

voting enabled... "just too good to be true" is leading as the background song.

like he wants to hear anything from the Party base..... tell him to ask his friends in the MSM what they think, or maybe he should try reaching across the aisle.

/not bitter @ all.

369 slokat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:06:03am

re: #368 redc1c4

Better than the ah, yeah like the, I mean, what I'm sayin, you know, ah yeah, um you know alternative..

370 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:06:51am

re: #361 redc1c4

red.... you have a nasty streak, don't you?

371 slokat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:07:42am

BTW - I keep expecting hummingbird pics...

372 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:09:23am

re: #354 redc1c4

add some frozen raspberries, and don't mix the lemonade.... just use the slush out of the can...... and make sure you keep the vodka in the freezer.

lemonade paste
frozen berries,
ice
ice cold vodka
blend until smooth
(proportions to taste)

repeat PRN.

/w*rks better this way. trust me %-)

Nice touch.. We're making fresh lemonade at the bar (no vodka) now. I feel like a ten-year old on the corner.

373 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:13:25am

Welcome to The Loft

Obama's 143 Days of Senate Experience

Posted By Cheri Jacobus On May 5, 2008 at 5:35 pm

Just how much Senate experience does Barack Obama have in terms of actual work days? Not much.

From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working.

After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan.

143 days -- I keep leftovers in my refrigerator longer than that.

In contrast, John McCain's 26 years in Congress, 22 years of military service including 1,966 days in captivity as a POW in Hanoi now seem more impressive than ever. At 71, John McCain may just be hitting his stride.

374 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:15:36am

BTW, you can get a nice image of Hurricane Dolly off the Brownsville Radar.

375 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:15:45am

re: #370 Mel Lono

red.... you have a nasty streak, don't you?

i make a good friend and a bad enemy..... %-)

376 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:17:23am

re: #371 slokat

BTW - I keep expecting hummingbird pics...

if you are expecting, sooner or later you should produce.

if not, consult your doctor.

/ask HRH: i just w*rk here

(IIRC, we owe you a check too. %-)

377 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:18:33am

re: #372 Mel Lono

Nice touch.. We're making fresh lemonade at the bar (no vodka) now. I feel like a ten-year old on the corner.

how much are you charging?

/white smoke %-)

378 zombie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:20:41am

Can someone look at this blog and tell me what it's like?

Is it just a normal Muslim blog? Or something sinister in some way? I'm afraid to look and haven't visited it yet.

379 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:22:38am

re: #374 freetoken

BTW, you can get a nice image of Hurricane Dolly off the Brownsville Radar.

Nothing personal, but I prefer this image of Dolly...

380 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:24:12am
COAST GUARD CUTTER EAGLE TO BE FEATURED IN SAILING FESTIVAL


SAN FRANCISCO (BCN)

The U.S. Coast Guard Cutter Eagle will lead 35 other vessels as they sail beneath the Golden Gate Bridge and along the city's waterfront Wednesday as part of the Festival of Sail.

The parade begins at noon and will be visible from nearly any downtown San Francisco waterfront location.

The Eagle has been in service within the Coast Guard since 1946, serving as a training platform for cadets and officer candidates to learn leadership, teamwork, seamanship and navigation skills. It is the only square-rigged sailing vessel still actively serving in the U.S. military.

In addition to San Francisco, the Eagle will be visiting five other West Coast ports, including San Diego; Los Angeles; Astoria, Ore.; Tacoma, Wash.; and Victoria, British Columbia.

I spent 8 weeks in 1978 on the Eagle sailing from Connecticut to Gitmo then through the Panama Canal to Acapulco, ending in San Diego. Thrill of a lifetime. Any SF or Norcal lizards in the area, try to check it out. I have sources for pictures, but would love to see yours.
USCGA '79

381 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:24:31am

re: #378 zombie

Can someone look at this blog and tell me what it's like?

Is it just a normal Muslim blog? Or something sinister in some way? I'm afraid to look and haven't visited it yet.

Looks fake, but spot-on true, zombie. The mohammed cartoon? and the pic portraying mo as a pedophile?

382 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:25:06am

re: #378 zombie

Can someone look at this blog and tell me what it's like?

Is it just a normal Muslim blog? Or something sinister in some way? I'm afraid to look and haven't visited it yet.

15-30 second scan: no, it is not...... mohammad (ham be upon him) cartoons, what appears at first scan to be a pro-Israel article.......

i can dig further if you like, but blue says i need my Z's...... %-)

383 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:27:35am

re: #382 redc1c4

15-30 second scan: no, it is not...... mohammad (ham be upon him) cartoons, what appears at first scan to be a pro-Israel article.......

i can dig further if you like, but blue says i need my Z's...... %-)

Not to mention the terrorist attack counter.

384 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:28:17am

re: #379 Bob in Breckenridge

Nothing personal, but I prefer this image of Dolly...

Well, I suppose that image of Dolly is better than this image of Dolly.

386 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:29:32am

re: #380 Mel Lono

where/when is the LA visit? 2H6 would be stoked for that..... and she'd bring the SK Nikon....

we could nosh in 'Pedro afterwards..... maybe a big pan of mostacholi?

/Simundich

387 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:30:00am

re: #384 freetoken

Well, I suppose that image of Dolly is better than this image of Dolly.

I won't even look. It's the sheep, right?

388 zombie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:38:46am

re: #381 Bob in Breckenridge

re: #382 redc1c4

OK, thanks for being the "royal tasters": now I have the nerve to look at it myself.

389 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:41:30am

re: #386 redc1c4
Eagle Log
Schedule, plus other cool stuff is there

Last time she was in (5 yrs ago?), she berthed right next to the firehouse in Pedro.
August 15-18th
nosh sounds good. Might be able to score a VIP tour. Some of my friends have been making ADM lately. Depends on the CAPT.

390 rightside  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:42:26am

Uhh, um, uh, uh, uh, uh, umm, and so.. um... um, um, um, um, uh, deh, um....

391 zombie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:43:12am

Ah, OK. Now I see. It's another one of those Bangladeshi anti-jihad blogs. I guess I'm making the rounds in Bangladesh tonight!

They keep sending me emails, but some are so confusingly written, I can't tell if they're compliments, insults, or something sneakier!

Apparently there is a secret community of Bangla blogs by apostate Muslims, and they're lovin' the Mohammed Image Archive!

392 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:43:54am

Hey, rightside. Your up early today.

/If you're channeling NObama I suggest a teleprompter till the symptons go away.

393 rightside  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:49:44am

re: #392 BlueCanuck

Hey Blue,

actually, I am at work on the graveyard shift. I listened to the Rush montage of uh's & um's from the chosen one, and am now compelled to touch them hem of his garment for complete peace.

OMFG! and they say W can't talk! Next leftard I hear talk about the way W speaks, I will play the 7+ minute MP3 of all the uh's & um's!

394 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:51:27am

re: #389 Mel Lono

Eagle Log
Schedule, plus other cool stuff is there

Last time she was in (5 yrs ago?), she berthed right next to the firehouse in Pedro.
August 15-18th
nosh sounds good. Might be able to score a VIP tour. Some of my friends have been making ADM lately. Depends on the CAPT.

can we dive from the main sails?

/like anyone would want to hit that water....... %-)

395 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:52:32am

re: #389 Mel Lono

Eagle Log
Schedule, plus other cool stuff is there

Last time she was in (5 yrs ago?), she berthed right next to the firehouse in Pedro.
August 15-18th
nosh sounds good. Might be able to score a VIP tour. Some of my friends have been making ADM lately. Depends on the CAPT.

Couldn't help the re-quote. I didn't want to let this 30 yr. memory pass.

EAGLE '08 as sung by Sting "Valparaiso"

396 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:52:43am

re: #391 zombie

Ah, OK. Now I see. It's another one of those Bangladeshi anti-jihad blogs. I guess I'm making the rounds in Bangladesh tonight!

They keep sending me emails, but some are so confusingly written, I can't tell if they're compliments, insults, or something sneakier!

Apparently there is a secret community of Bangla blogs by apostate Muslims, and they're lovin' the Mohammed Image Archive!

did you contact tech support earlier, and get some bleed over?

/always go tier 2

397 zombie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:52:46am

OK, all you late-nighters, you hit the jackpot this time:

Your prize for staying up all night is the privelege of being the very first people to see the latest zomblog posting, uploaded just moments ago:

Injured seal on nude beach

When this is later voted "Most Popular Blog Post of All Time," you can proudly declare, "I saw it first!"

398 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:53:43am

re: #387 Bob in Breckenridge

I won't even look. It's the sheep, right?

Hey... the web link should have made it obvious...

BTW, weather forecasts for Brownsville says up to 20" of rain may fall this week, as Dolly is moving so slowly.

399 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:54:09am

re: #394 redc1c4

can we dive from the main sails?

Did that. Shark too.

400 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:54:24am

re: #395 Mel Lono

Couldn't help the re-quote. I didn't want to let this 30 yr. memory pass.

EAGLE '08 as sung by Sting "Valparaiso"

save me a google: isn't the eagle war booty from big mistake 2?

401 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:55:03am

re: #397 zombie

OK, all you late-nighters, you hit the jackpot this time:

Your prize for staying up all night is the privelege of being the very first people to see the latest zomblog posting, uploaded just moments ago:

Injured seal on nude beach

When this is later voted "Most Popular Blog Post of All Time," you can proudly declare, "I saw it first!"

which is which?

402 rightside  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:55:30am

re: #397 zombie

How about a NSFW warning for that post zombie, boobies ahoy!

403 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:56:33am

This just became the boobies thread....

404 zombie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:56:53am

re: #396 redc1c4

did you contact tech support earlier, and get some bleed over?

/always go tier 2

Not quite sure what you mean, but that's OK!

I'm just getting a lot of links and emails coming out of Bangladesh over the last several hours, and I simply wanted to make sure they were authentic fans of the Mohammed Image Archive and not just Islamic hackers trying to get get me to visit a phony site in order to find out my IP address or something like that. Conclusion: they're authentic fans.

405 rightside  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:57:22am

What? did someone say boobies? Uh...um..uh uh uh uh uh boobies!

406 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:57:22am

re: #400 redc1c4

you are correct, Sir. Used to be called the Horst Wessel or close to that. German Navy had to pay up. So we got it.

407 zombie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:57:48am

re: #402 rightside

How about a NSFW warning for that post zombie, boobies ahoy!

I thought the title of the link would be sufficient warning!

408 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:57:58am

re: #405 rightside

What? did someone say boobies? Uh...um..uh uh uh uh uh boobies!

Coasties like boobies!

409 rightside  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 12:59:38am

re: #407 zombie

Sure! get picky! LOL

re: #408 Mel Lono

All sailors like boobies!

410 zombie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:01:16am

re: #401 redc1c4

which is which?

The seal is the one with the mesmerizing pair of . . . eyes.

411 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:01:33am

re: #397 zombie

Eventually someone called the park rangers, while the seal turned to give me a pleading look, as if trying to communicate that it had come up onto the beach to seek help from the humans.

"Am I having a bad day, or what?!"

/poor seal! :-(

412 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:02:12am

re: #404 zombie

Not quite sure what you mean, but that's OK!

I'm just getting a lot of links and emails coming out of Bangladesh over the last several hours, and I simply wanted to make sure they were authentic fans of the Mohammed Image Archive and not just Islamic hackers trying to get get me to visit a phony site in order to find out my IP address or something like that. Conclusion: they're authentic fans.

with SBC/ATT, you call tech support, and a cheerful, non American accent ansewrs, insisting that they are here CONUS. you can dance with the difficult to understand syntax, and the absolute inability to deviate from the script, or you can demand tier 2, and get someone here who might possibly listen to & understand WTF you're saying.......

413 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:03:27am

re: #408 Mel Lono

Coasties like boobies!

flotation devices........

/duh %-)

414 rightside  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:03:28am

{lol}

415 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:04:13am

rightside! :-)

/like sheeps in the night...

416 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:04:25am

re: #406 Mel Lono

you are correct, Sir. Used to be called the Horst Wessel or close to that. German Navy had to pay up. So we got it.

"sir"?

/fighting word

417 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:06:30am

re: #415 littleoldlady

rightside! :-)

/like sheeps in the night...

be bop deluxe!

418 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:09:57am

re: #416 redc1c4

"sir"?

/fighting word

I get called that all the time at the bar, and then I introduce myself.. Works wonders.

419 rightside  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:10:48am

Okay,

Has Babba stopped coming here for good?

420 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:11:15am

re: #417 redc1c4

red! :-)

We missed you...was it yesterday, Blue?

/lost in space

421 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:13:08am

re: #419 rightside

Okay,

Has Babba stopped coming here for good?

I guess so. :-(

422 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:15:39am

re: #397 zombie

OK, all you late-nighters, you hit the jackpot this time:

Your prize for staying up all night is the privelege of being the very first people to see the latest zomblog posting, uploaded just moments ago:

Injured seal on nude beach

When this is later voted "Most Popular Blog Post of All Time," you can proudly declare, "I saw it first!"

That was so sad - I cried, I'm afraid.

423 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:17:18am

The thunder is getting louder...

/if I get knocked offline don't let red anywhere near your fruitcup!
//...unless you LIKE living dangerously

424 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:19:39am

Yet another of our soldiers was killed in Afghanistan:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

The 2nd Battalion Paras are having a horrible time there, the casualties and deaths this month have mostly been in their ranks.

425 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:19:54am

re: #420 littleoldlady

red! :-)

We missed you...was it yesterday, Blue?

/lost in space

was busy playing Asteroids...... hit 300K, and was supposed to get to bed early.

/kinda like tonight, but with out the points.

tomorrow night: Showbiz Kids

426 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:20:42am

re: #418 Mel Lono

I get called that all the time at the bar, and then I introduce myself.. Works wonders.

not with me.....

/unless you're buying %-)

427 pbird  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:21:00am

re: #353 K~Bob

Eggzackly. Shop vac is best. Make a neat sound, too.

{ Assume the usual }

Oh my! Have to try that!

428 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:22:41am

re: #423 littleoldlady

The thunder is getting louder...

/if I get knocked offline don't let red anywhere near your fruitcup!
//...unless you LIKE living dangerously

too late for the fruitcup, and if you do get knocked up, who should we notify first?

429 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:23:51am

re: #420 littleoldlady

Yep it was last night.

re: #425 redc1c4

What are you doing still here? Shouldn't you be in bed?

430 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:24:00am

re: #426 redc1c4

not with me.....

/unless you're buying %-)

bad read. first time out.....

/dooooha!

431 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:25:15am

re: #429 BlueCanuck

BlueCanuck! :-)

Don't tell him what I said about him, m'kay?

;-)

432 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:25:16am

re: #429 BlueCanuck

Yep it was last night.

re: #425 redc1c4

What are you doing still here? Shouldn't you be in bed?

i am, it's a remote keyboard......

433 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:26:41am

re: #431 littleoldlady

BlueCanuck! :-)

Don't tell him what I said about him, m'kay?

;-)

no biggie: i've been called an asshole before. %-)

/might even happen again...... %-)

434 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:28:39am

re: #433 redc1c4

no biggie: i've been called an asshole before. %-)

/might even happen again...... %-)

yeah, I give it at the most six hours.

/your timings may vary.

435 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:30:34am

re: #434 BlueCanuck

yeah, I give it at the most six hours.

/your timings may vary.

you've got a Catholic clock?

/rhythm method....... %-)

436 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:33:13am

re: #433 redc1c4

As if.

/nearly 20,000 posts and I don't believe I've ever even called a real asshole an asshole.

Try again. ;-)

437 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:39:46am

It's dead, Jim.

So...what's the Obamessiah up to in the Holy Land?

438 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:46:37am

Cassidy
It's not dead until the LOL sings or brings fruit cup.

439 wanumba  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:47:51am

Is BabbaZee still posting, anyone know?

Thanks.

440 rightside  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:49:46am

re: #439 wanumba


On her blog yes, but I haven't seen her in a couple months. :-(


Her Blog

441 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:51:28am

re: #438 Mel Lono

Mel! :-)

442 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:52:20am

re: #441 littleoldlady

Need some pineapple.

443 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:54:27am

Okay. Pineapple. Sure.

/why not? ;-)

444 Rugby the Rat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:58:43am

re: #336 Bob in Breckenridge

What's Calm sauce? Do you mean clam?

re: #339 DesertSage

Calm sauce goes on the spazghetti.

HELLO to BOB in Breckindridge!?! DesretSage got it half right. of course i meant to say C-L-A-M sauce, but it should go on linguine, not spaghetti because it is prettier that way!!

BUT?! (important exception to the rule) you are alowed to use spaghetti instead of linguine if and only if it is AN EMREGENCY situation!!!

clam spahgetti is not as pretty as calm lingunie, however it is extremely tasty in either case, i think?

UNLESS!?! (another excption to the rule!) you are a jew, in which case it is trayf and NOT tasty

love,

rugby (a dead rat)

445 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 1:58:57am

re: #443 littleoldlady

Okay. Pineapple. Sure.

/why not? ;-)

Blueberries go with pineapple!

/don't they?

446 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

447 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:01:30am

re: #445 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

Blueberries only for very special people!

/very expensive!
//...
///here. have some.

;-)

448 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:05:01am

re: #447 littleoldlady

freetoken! :-)

Blueberries
///here. have some.

;-)

Ooohhh, thanks. Yes, this year blueberries have been priced rather highly I have noticed. Over 10 years ago when I lived in DC I remember buying blueberries by the pint for almost nothing. Now in California, this year some of the prices I've seen on blueberries have been a bit of a shock I must say.

BTW, you're on the east coast, right? I noticed on the SPC splash page the storms heading through PA and NJ. On that page ("overview") you can see Dolly showing up right nicely as a donut just off TX coastline.

449 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:06:00am

re: #446 littleoldlady

Ah, "now I lay me down to sleep"...

450 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:13:20am

re: #448 freetoken

Yes! That red stuff on the map is going right over my house!

/we really need the rain

Living this close to New Jersey I used to be able to get blueberries for about a dollar a pint this time of year. Now I'm lucky to find them for $2 - on sale.

About a month ago I got the sticker-shock of my life over food. My mom was visiting and she likes the deli rye bread (as opposed to the supermarket fake rye bread). I went to get her one and they told me a large rye was $10! (TEN DOLLARS!)

/I had to sit down; got faint!
//Welcome to the Soviet Union...

451 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:14:03am

Good night, Mel! :-)

452 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:14:19am

Iran: Feminists ready to protest against bill making polygamy easier

Tehran, 22 July (AKI) - Women's rights groups in Iran have said that they will stage a round-the clock sit-in at the country's parliament if lawmakers decide to discuss a bill that will make polygamy easier.

"The new law on the family will take our country back centuries," said the Iranian feminist Nahid Mirhaj, in an interview with Adnkronos International (AKI).

"We will not accept this return to the Middle Ages under any circumstances," she said.

The bill deals with a variety of issues including the Islamic practice of polygamy. Under current legislation in Iran, a man has to get the consent of his current wives before he marries another.

Under the new law, this consent is no longer required.

I wonder if those women are getting any backing from their Western sisters?

453 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:20:04am

re: #450 littleoldlady

/I had to sit down; got faint!
//Welcome to the Soviet Union...

Welcome to inflation!

What I wouldn't give for $2 blueberries! Here in California on sale the best price for a pint of blueberries has been $3. At the major supermarket near me the regular price has been hovering around $5/pint, less if you buy a big 1lb container.

Starting last December the producer price index (inflation measures but not on normal retail like you and I buy) shot up strongly, and ever since there has been some real serious inflation but not among the "core" CPI. Fortunately for the government, "core" excludes energy and food prices... after all, who has to worry about those little things?

454 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:29:04am

re: #453 freetoken

I bought dog food yesterday. Easily 30% higher than last year.

/I told the dog, "Diet or get a job. Your choice."

:-(

455 wanumba  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:35:56am

re: #440 rightside

Oh, thanks. I've been off for a long while with large projects so haven't kept up at all, plus a very slow internet connection makes quick posting/replyposting very hard, so I've missed a lot of threads, and posters.

456 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:37:16am

re: #436 littleoldlady

As if.

/nearly 20,000 posts and I don't believe I've ever even called a real asshole an asshole.

Try again. ;-)

no problemo....... i just don't want any problems wit Charles when i do what you say.

457 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:44:55am

re: #456 redc1c4

Just do what I say and you'll have no problems whatsoever.

/this USED to work, before I became a littleoldlady...

458 Karridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:48:30am

re: #457 littleoldlady

Well, it STILL works, for all GOOD-hearted blaggards, Ma'am!

459 Tigger2005  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:50:30am

re: #16 Sharmuta

I once dreamt Spock was my father.

I bet Darth Vader was pissed.

460 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:50:35am

re: #457 littleoldlady

Just do what I say and you'll have no problems whatsoever.

/this USED to work, before I became a littleoldlady...

i never saw the paperw*rk where we got married....

besides ruining you for normal men, i'm pretty sure you're already making some other po bastid's life hell. .....

/another day

461 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:50:46am

Karridine! :-)

462 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:52:08am

re: #458 Karridine

Well, it STILL works, for all GOOD-hearted blaggards, Ma'am!

that's what you get for having a heart......

/is your car up for repo, by any chance? %-)

463 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:55:23am

as i asked Blue earlier, i'm checking out early......

l8r!

"thanks dude!"

/

464 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:56:24am

re: #460 redc1c4

i'm pretty sure you're already making some other po bastid's life hell. .....

It only looks that way...

465 Karridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:02:46am

re: #462 redc1c4

Y'know, Red, I've had a Kawasaki 750cc scoot repossessed because I couldn't make the last payment... and two cars repossessed for exactly the same reason...

...something in me got CLOSE to "Yay!" and torpedoed the whole shebang!

466 Karridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:03:59am

{Lil Olde!}

Yes!
I'm heeere!

467 Karridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:05:47am

Hmmm.... there were 3 curly brackets when I posted...
{2}

468 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:08:25am

re: #466 Karridine

{Lil Olde!}

Yes!
I'm heeere!

I'm SO glad!

/because red's being an ole meanie!

I think you have to vary your brackets to get multiples:

{[{Karridine!}]}

469 Karridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:08:27am

Great.

Broke the thread.

470 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:08:39am

Morning all.
The Lizard King won't let you post multiple brackets. I think it upsets the hamsters.

471 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:09:09am

re: #467 Karridine

You have to space them out { { { } } } }

472 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:09:13am

{[{[{MY ROVE!}]}]}

473 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:09:24am

Naturally, littleoldlady knows the workaround.

474 Karridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:09:30am

Ah!

Thanks for THAT info, Olde... precious.... my precious... INFO {[{3}]}

475 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:10:01am

Everybody's got a bracket strategery...

476 Karridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:10:23am

Alternating OR spaced...

(sound like ME in my first year out of the Army!)

477 Rugby the Rat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:10:44am

HELLO! my name is RUGBY and i am a dead rat but sicne i have come to suspect that some of you don't believe i am a FOR REAL RAT from the ACTUAL afterlife, here you can see a photo of me back when I was still alive on your motral plane of existence (circa 2004) and a big fan of LFG even then i might add!

plus there is a nartist's rendering of what undead-rats might conceivably look like. (althouGH, plz note that no one in heaven actualy wears gold-feather wings like in the picture, because they are too faggy)

love,

RUBGY the rat!

478 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:12:49am

litlelold- th edaughter is having a great time at psychology camp. She called Sunday and Monday nights; we didn't hear from her last night. Too busy, I expect.

Whats the deal with the rumor of McCain naming a VP now? If I ran the show I'd wait to see who Obama picks, and then do the Rovian strategy thing.

479 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:14:06am

Rugby- now that's a name I've not heard in a long long time.....
(channeling Old Ben Kenobi)

480 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:15:12am

re: #477 Rugby the Rat

A function of being old...I think I remember you but I can't remember whose alterego you are. (Throbert? Dat u?)

481 '  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:16:11am

Via Tim Blair, Obama thinks Australia is in Asia:

Seek New Partnerships in Asia: Obama will forge a more effective framework in Asia that goes beyond bilateral agreements, occasional summits, and ad hoc arrangements, such as the six-party talks on North Korea. He will maintain strong ties with allies like Japan, South Korea and Australia; work to build an infrastructure with countries in East Asia that can promote stability and prosperity; and work to ensure that China plays by international rules.
482 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:17:29am

re: #480 littleoldlady

Throbert was around last night.
Salutes for your mischief at TNR, sir!

483 Dizzy26  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:19:00am

I'd like to combine a few threads here, the screaming, forgetting, dreaming, drinking, forgetting..uh and screaming......loud.

The DTs can produce a lot of that,- and tears- and fears, but with all that said, .048 is pretty high.

(not for New York or California perhaps, but if one works up to it, over
the years, understandable)
DOS 9/26/87

484 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:20:44am

re: #478 Jim in Virginia

When MNT was 14 (same age as your girls?) she went to overnight camp for almost a month. She called me the second day weeping, "I don't know WHY I'm crying - I'm having a GREAT time!"

/only child; close to mom
//ripped my heart out, especially considering how much we PAID for that place!

I hope the other daughter is taking advantage of having mom and dad to herself! ;-)

And I agree with you about waiting to name a veep.

485 Karridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:25:37am

We had an Undead Rat on the bottom of our coffee urn... it was a nearly-carbonized, nearly-tanned item, and all the taste had long ago been leached out of it into our cups of foul-tasting coffee... Rubgy
D
Rat... undead... 3 HP... but need staff +2 or better to hit...

486 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:25:56am
487 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:26:39am

re: #484 littleoldlady

!
And I agree with you about waiting to name a veep.

Except I can't thinkof anyone who makes a good McCain VP. Lots of mediocre choices and a few bad ones.

488 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:26:43am

PLOOOOOMIE! :-) :-) :-)

489 Aylios  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:28:38am

Open letters to the families of Eldad Regev and Ehud Goldwasser:

[Link: www.uiansw.org.au...]

Never forget!

490 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:31:28am
491 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:31:52am
492 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:32:28am

re: #487 Jim in Virginia

He needs a woman. The only one available is the governor of Alaska (Pallin?) and she doesn't want the job.

I heard Eric Cantor of Virginia named as well.

/way to conflict the Jews! LOL!

493 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:34:11am

re: #490 ploome hineni

Considering the press - or lack thereof - that McCain is getting, he should be WAY further back in the polls.

Just wait until people start paying attention, too.

494 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:36:05am

re: #489 Aylios

Thank you for that link.

495 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:37:01am
496 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:39:33am

Ruh roh!

Huggie Wars - Redux!

;-)

497 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:42:16am

Good morning, LGF!

A little early morning rain here in Memphis. And banana nutbread baking in the oven soon...

498 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:44:49am

Good Morning all.

Just a drive by today. I have to do some work outside the office before the rains come. Hope you all have a wonderful day filled with much joy and laughter.

Later.

499 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:47:50am

re: #402 rightside

How about a NSFW warning for that post zombie, boobies ahoy!

Heh.
What exactly did rightside expect to see on a nude beach? A seal?

500 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:54:39am

Wondering if Dar will share some of that banana nut bread...?

I think I saw BenZacharia briefly yesterday (?) If so...BenZ!

501 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:55:45am

Well, Dolly is beginning to look more impressive on satellite and radar.

Dolly was just upgraded to a cat 2 hurricane. She has drifted a bit more to the north, so Brownsville may be spared a direct hit, unless she makes a definite left turn. With the slow movement of Dolly, the folk in the deep south of Texas surely will be quite wet after this is all done.

502 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:02:38am

re: #501 freetoken

So that condo on South Padre Island was not a good investment?

503 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:03:58am

re: #500 littleoldlady

Wondering if Dar will share some of that banana nut bread...?

Thanks to the wonders of virtual reality, it's ready already...

*sets the plate on the buffet*

Help yourself, y'all.

504 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:05:39am

re: #11 zombie


and the one thing that ties the two of them together is the islamist anti semites they both support and that is why the left is picking up on the crude forms of anti semitism now.

505 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:07:18am

re: #501 freetoken

Just to clarify, the NHC still has Dolly as a cat 1 on their page, but the recon mission is sending back data that will likely lead to the official upgrade.

If you use Google Earth, you can follow the recon missions in near real time! Download the kmz file from this page. Just what a weather nerd needs!

506 jcbunga  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:07:34am

"All things one has forgotten scream for help in dreams.

— Elias Canetti"

I'd forgotten Canetti said that.

507 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:10:27am

re: #503 Dar ul Harb

YUM! THANKS! :-)

508 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:12:14am

re: #502 Jim in Virginia

So that condo on South Padre Island was not a good investment?

Unless the treasure chest of some long sunk Spanish galleon happens to wash up onto your property... maybe not.

509 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:18:29am

Good news, everyone! Cop-killing animal Mumia Abu-Jamal lost his latest appeal!

510 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:20:24am

re: #508 freetoken
The parable of the man who built his house on sand is more than just a metaphor.
Im off to oppress the masses and despoil the environment. Stay safe, y'all.

511 Karridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:25:27am

re: #490 ploome hineni

McCain should have spoken, up close and personal, to that ONE reporter, treated him like a Star Pupil, and given him several tidbits of juicy info!

DON"T PLAY by the MSM's rules!

512 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:32:12am

re: #509 Wyatt Earp

Good news, everyone! Cop-killing animal Mumia Abu-Jamal lost his latest appeal!


FRY MUMYA

513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:36:13am

Somebody spoke and I went into a dream...
ahh ahh ahh
ahh ahh ahh
ahh ahh ahh
Woke up; Got out of bed; Dragged a comb across my head...

Speaking of dreaming and screaming....

514 capn_jon  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:37:54am

Can someone pass a note to Charles?

I believe in the scientific accuracy of Darwinism, and I don't think Intelligent Design is science--it's religion pretending to be science. So I agree with the official LGF stance on the whole thing.

NOW, can we stop waging this stupid jihad against creationists on LGF?

Please?

If someone wants to believe the Earth is 6,000 years old, I don't really care. If someone wants to believe the Earth is flat, I don't really care. I don't even care if someone thinks these silly beliefs belong in public schools--it's not as if one more dumb idea will sink our already sunk public education system. As always, good parents can easily deprogram little Johnny when he gets home from school. And if little Johnny's parents are no good, then little Johnny will get deprogrammed in college. And if little Johnny can't make it into college, it isn't as if his silly idea about the age of Earth kept him out.

Can we return the focus of this site back to winning the war against fundamentalist islam? That's why I love coming here. And please, for Darwin's sake, can we stop trying to connect islamists to creationists? That's like comparing islamists to all supporters of capital punishment.

We're smarter than this.

515 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:38:30am

re: #513 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I know it's backwards. Worked better that way.

Good morning all!

516 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:39:12am

re: #9 realwest

And some that one has not forgotten, try as hard as he will.

Amen.

517 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:41:01am

re: #488 littleoldlady

I was the "Protector of LOL's Avatar" last night. You don't have to thank me.

518 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:44:01am

re: #507 littleoldlady

YUM! THANKS! :-)

The secret is I crumble the pecans by hand to ensure a consistent texture, and it also expresses the pecan oil somewhat. Toasting them slightly would add even more flavor.

Don't use a chopper. Choppers make few pieces and lots of pecan powder.

519 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:44:32am

re: #514 capn_jon

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

C.S. Lewis

520 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:46:48am

re: #519 Cap'n DOC

See? That's why I don't read Lewis. Have to read every paragraph three times to figure it out. And most of his writings are long.

Give me Gary Larson any day.

521 lone_wolf_in_illinois  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:48:12am

Good Morning Lizards!

522 freetoken  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:50:20am

re: #514 capn_jon

You can send Charles a message directly. Look to the left of the window (the "contact" triangle.)

However, given his repeated exhortations that he will delete messages asking him what not to post.... I suspect you won't get far.

523 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:52:14am

re: #517 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thank you, FBV! :-)

/what happened?

524 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:52:45am

re: #514 capn_jon


What if I were to say; "If someone wants to believe that God is called Allah, I don't really care. If someone wants to believe the only word of God is the Koran, I don't really care. I don't even care if someone thinks that girls should not go to school--it's not as if one more dumb idea will sink our already sunk public education system. As always, good parents can easily deprogram little Hajib when he gets home from school. And if little Hajib's parents are no good, then little Johnny will get deprogrammed in the mosque. And if little Hajib can't make it into college, then it is Islamophobia that kept him out."

This is how I feel about ID/creationism. Do not ever underestimate the power of ignorance and don't believe for a moment if ID had its way in displacing Evolution that anyone would stop at that.

525 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:53:15am

re: #518 Dar ul Harb

Mmmmmmmmmm! Pecans!

526 TheMatrix31  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:54:23am

re: #393 rightside

Hey Blue,

actually, I am at work on the graveyard shift. I listened to the Rush montage of uh's & um's from the chosen one, and am now compelled to touch them hem of his garment for complete peace.

OMFG! and they say W can't talk! Next leftard I hear talk about the way W speaks, I will play the 7+ minute MP3 of all the uh's & um's!

Where did you get the audio clip?! Share please!

527 Rugby the Rat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:54:40am

re: #482 Jim in Virginia

Throbert was around last night.
Salutes for your mischief at TNR, sir!

why HELLO nice primate Jim in virginia!

throbet is prorbably asleep now but i will appear to him in a dream to pass on your nice thnak-you! (although the truth is he is still half-embarrassed by that because he knows it was wrong t o be gossiping about TRN while they were still paying his salary... BUT he was also glad & proud to stand up for miliatary people)

XOXO,

Rugby the guardian angle rat

ps. on behalf of other dead rats: if you have a rodernt problem in your house, plz use the SNAPPY SPRING traps w/ cheese like in the cartoons! they are nicer because they KILL INSTATNLY. or, you can smash their little rat & mouse heads w/ a hammer... that is fast also and you can pretend you're playing whack-a-mole at the carnival. BUT! whatever you do, DONT put out glue traps and poison because they are awful slow ways to die & can make pets sick

pps. this was a pubic service annoucement from RAT HEAVEN!

528 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:56:05am

re: #514 capn_jon

looks like a sock puppet is being wasted to make a point.

subjects i am not interested in i just to read or post on. plenty here on lgf to keep me interested.

529 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:00:40am

re: #527 Rugby the Rat

poison can be a problem esp if you have cats you might posion your kitty and even if you don't the mouse or rat will crawl some place to die and offen it is into air conditioning ducts and your whole house smells like dead rat.

530 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:03:33am

re: #523 littleoldlady

Thank you, FBV! :-)

/what happened?

Nothing really. Someone linked your avatar, said that they wanted to use it. I told them you'd cut them off from the fruitcup if they tried and use it.

Good morning dear.

531 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:03:41am

re: #523 littleoldlady

Thank you, FBV! :-)

/what happened?

Nevermind, I found it! :-) Thanks again!

After all, it IS copyrighted material...

Good day, ALL!™

532 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:05:08am

Good Morning Lizards.

Condolences to my Cub fan friends as the Cubs continue to blow their divisional lead, now down to 1 game.

533 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:06:53am

re: #532 3 wood

Think MamaWinger said it on opening day...
"It's opening day, and the Cubs are ten games back..."

534 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:16:01am

re: #533 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Think MamaWinger said it on opening day...
"It's opening day, and the Cubs are ten games back..."

Has MamaWinger been posting recently? Haven't seen her.

535 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:17:18am

re: #64 A Kiwi Infidel

well you are out in the middle of no were lucky for you your closest neighbor is OZ and it is a bit of a swim away.

536 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:17:57am

Good Morning Lizards!1
It's going to be clear with a high of 82.. A perfect day..
3 wood.. you know what i'm thinking don't you?
GOLF this afternoon!

537 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:18:57am

a fair number of our parents and grand parents were in OZ during ww2 I don't think to many americans ever get to kiwi land. except maybe in the form of a hobbit.

538 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:19:23am

Good morning, lizards.

65 sunny degrees here along the Lake Michigan shoreline.
And my son is home!

539 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:20:21am

Stormy with outer bands of Hurricane Dolly ruining the commute here in Houston.

540 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:21:17am

rose how long is he home for? welcome back rose's son.

541 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:21:41am

Good morning Lizards........

542 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:22:27am

rose yesterday was great in this little burg on the other side of the pond from you.

543 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:22:31am

Congratulations Rose, thank him and give him a hug for me...

544 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:22:54am

re: #540 yochanan

rose how long is he home for? welcome back rose's son.

He's home for just two short weeks.
Then back to San Diego, and preparation for his next deployment.

Afghanistan, more than likely.

Even on vacation, he gets up at 5am to go jogging :).

545 ciaospirit  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:23:14am

re: #490 ploome hineni

meanwhile

the press is making sure McCain is irrelevant

someone need to kick start McCains campaign FAST

You're right about that. They used to try to hide it, but now they are blatantly biased and don't care. This headline is out on McCain, yet Obama gaffes occur nearly every time he opens his mouth. Where's the pile up?

McCain gaffes pile up; critics pile on

546 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:23:24am

re: #541 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards........

here's your coffee Dorian..lots of sugar and cream..

547 songbird  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:23:35am

Good morning, Lizards.

Sticky and 69 degrees in Las Cruces at sunrise. Expect mid 90s today and drier. Low humidity makes the 90s tolerable and the swamp coolers work better!

548 songbird  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:23:55am

re: #546 HoosierHoops

Good morning, Friend.

549 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:23:58am

re: #546 HoosierHoops

here's your coffee Dorian..lots of sugar and cream..

Bless you HoosierHoops........

550 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:24:22am

re: #544 irish rose

He's home for just two short weeks.
Then back to San Diego, and preparation for his next deployment.

Afghanistan, more than likely.

Even on vacation, he gets up at 5am to go jogging :).

Is he at Camp Pendleton?

551 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:25:05am

re: #548 songbird

Good morning, Friend.

{SongBird} is in the house!

552 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:25:35am

re: #544 irish rose

He's home for just two short weeks.
Then back to San Diego, and preparation for his next deployment.

Afghanistan, more than likely.

Even on vacation, he gets up at 5am to go jogging :).

Ahhhh he shall be in my neck of the woods....

553 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:25:37am

re: #550 HoosierHoops

Is he at Camp Pendleton?

MCAS Miramar.

554 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:26:16am

re: #536 HoosierHoops

It's going to be clear with a high of 82.. A perfect day..
3 wood.. you know what i'm thinking don't you?
GOLF this afternoon!

I hear you.

What clubs do you like to use, by the way?

555 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:26:26am

re: #553 irish rose

MCAS Miramar.

Right across the street from where I work even....

556 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:27:40am

re: #544 irish rose

great weather right now to run in the afternoon not so nice.
also very peaceful down by the lake even in chi town.

557 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:27:45am

re: #553 irish rose

MCAS Miramar.

Well God Bless him..You enjoy your time with him..

558 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:27:48am

re: #555 doriangrey

Right across the street from where I work even....

... it's a small world after all ;)

559 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:29:41am

re: #556 yochanan

great weather right now to run in the afternoon not so nice.
also very peaceful down by the lake even in chi town.

It's a beautiful day on this side of the pond too. We're having a stretch of nice weather with temps in the 70-80 degree range, low humidity and cool nights for sleeping.

My son sent me a text when he got off the plane.... says it's cold here ;).

560 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:30:42am

re: #554 3 wood

I hear you.

What clubs do you like to use, by the way?

If they dont have Penley composite shafts then they suck...

561 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:31:15am

re: #534 Big Steve


Has MamaWinger been posting recently? Haven't seen her.

I don't think so.

Last I saw of her, somebody on one of the ID threads was saying some very ugly things to her about her faith.

I think she's had enough for a while

562 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:34:00am

re: #560 doriangrey

If they dont have Penley composite shafts then they suck...

Without outing myself too much, I know a little something about the materials of golf clubs. It costs about $5 to cast the head. The grip costs about $1. All the technology is in the shaft which is carbon fiber bound with epoxy resin. The shaft costs about $12 to make. Putting the club together costs $1 of labor. So think of this next time you spend >$300 on a Big Bertha.

563 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:35:53am

re: #561 3 wood

I don't think so.

Last I saw of her, somebody on one of the ID threads was saying some very ugly things to her about her faith.

I think she's had enough for a while

Thats what I thought. I couldn't remember if it was MamaWinger or Goddessoftheclassroom but one or both got their feelings hurt and huffed off.

564 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:35:54am

3 Wood
I use Calaway drivers and a fairly new set of irons..Some no name set that i can't even remember the name of..

565 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:36:24am

re: #562 Big Steve

Without outing myself too much, I know a little something about the materials of golf clubs. It costs about $5 to cast the head. The grip costs about $1. All the technology is in the shaft which is carbon fiber bound with epoxy resin. The shaft costs about $12 to make. Putting the club together costs $1 of labor. So think of this next time you spend >$300 on a Big Bertha.

Cough cough, disclaimer time. I work for Carter Penley. Your figures are off a little on the cost of manufacturing a composite shaft.

566 songbird  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:36:56am

re: #561 3 wood

I don't think so.

Last I saw of her, somebody on one of the ID threads was saying some very ugly things to her about her faith.

I think she's had enough for a while

I get fed up with the ID threads, too, and try not to say much. Hope she's ok.

567 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:38:13am

re: #566 songbird

I get fed up with the ID threads, too, and try not to say much. Hope she's ok.

yea songbird.. it's like a knive fight in a crowded bar.

568 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:38:59am

re: #561 3 wood

I don't think so.

Last I saw of her, somebody on one of the ID threads was saying some very ugly things to her about her faith.

I think she's had enough for a while

When it comes to treating other people like human beings we have a few people here who simply can't be bothered, I'm sorry to say. On both sides of the aisle.

The need to be right is paramount for these folks, the need to "win" the argument all consuming. Consideration for the feelings of others goes right down the toilet.

569 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:38:59am

re: #560 doriangrey

If they dont have Penley composite shafts then they suck...

Very nice components.

I build my own to fit my swing. I've gone full circle and gone back to steel. If you have a swing speed such that you need stiff graphites, you might as well hit steel. Steel also is a bit more able to hit low boring shots into the wind with, which is what I need to hit in windy central Illinois. I find graphite/composites get a little floppy in warmer weather, where as steel stays constant regardless of temerature changes.

But if you have a slower swing speed, graphites will give you that extra kick to hit longer drives.

Biggest downside of steel is you get a lot of shock from the impact of the ball on the club head transmitted up the shaft and into your wrists/elbows, so you can get tendonitis easier.

570 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:39:16am

re: #566 songbird

I get fed up with the ID threads, too, and try not to say much. Hope she's ok.

I wont even read or post in the ID threads because so many people on both sides of the issue are arguing from fevered emotional positions and only hear what they want to hear.

571 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:39:29am

re: #565 doriangrey

I know precisely what you pay for epoxy resin and carbon fiber is fairly cheap. Injection molding the shafts, one can just crank. However, in fairness, there is a lot of R&D and testing that goes into the shafts and I am not counting that.

572 yochanan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:40:22am

re: #561 3 wood

that is one of the reasons i don't debate religion i see no positive benifits and it just ruffles feathers and scales.

573 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:40:26am

re: #563 Big Steve

Thats what I thought. I couldn't remember if it was MamaWinger or Goddessoftheclassroom but one or both got their feelings hurt and huffed off.

My recollection is somebody told Mama that she deserved her illness cause of her faith.

574 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:42:26am

re: #573 3 wood

My recollection is somebody told Mama that she deserved her illness cause of her faith.

Like I said, we forget how to act like human beings sometimes.

575 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:43:00am

re: #568 irish rose

The need to be right is paramount for these folks, the need to "win" the argument all consuming. Consideration for the feelings of others goes right down the toilet.

I find that the conversation usually degrades into a back and forth to come up with the most crushing and hurtful insult.

It's told me a lot about some people here, let me tell you.

576 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:44:31am

re: #573 3 wood

My recollection is somebody told Mama that she deserved her illness cause of her faith.

Let's hope Charles used the stick on that person.

577 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:45:08am

re: #573 3 wood

My recollection is somebody told Mama that she deserved her illness cause of her faith.

I have a friend who is from Wales. He is always amazed at political discourse in the US in that it is not enough to agree or disagree with one candidate, one has to absolutely HATE the other guy. I think both parties have honed this skill to precision, that is, if you can't get people to like your guy, get them to hate the other. Thus all the name calling such as "Obambi, or McSame". What also amazes this friend is that with all the vitriol, yet people can compartmentalize this and remain friends on all other planes.

578 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:46:47am

re: #571 Big Steve

I know precisely what you pay for epoxy resin and carbon fiber is fairly cheap. Injection molding the shafts, one can just crank. However, in fairness, there is a lot of R&D and testing that goes into the shafts and I am not counting that.

There is no injection molding of carbon fiber shafts. The process of making composite shafts is quite time consuming. The carbon fiber comes in sheets and has to be hand cut into patterns and hand rolled onto steel mandrels. I wouldn't consider 80 dollars a pound for carbon fiber all that cheap. Granted you can get quite a few shafts out of a pound of carbon fiber, five I think, but still thats really not very cheap.

579 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:47:09am

re: #573 3 wood

My recollection is somebody told Mama that she deserved her illness cause of her faith.

WTF? Seriously? That is beneath contempt. Who was that asshole?

580 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:47:51am

re: #564 HoosierHoops

I use Calaway drivers and a fairly new set of irons..Some no name set that i can't even remember the name of..

The important things is if the clubs fit you and your swing, and the types of shots you want to hit.

A good builder can make clubs that will hit draws, or hit fades, or hit it low, or hit high shots.

All depends on what you want to hit.

When I was playing competitively, I always took 3 sets of clubs to the course in my trunk (built to hit high, low, or in between trajectories) and I would use the set that best fit the conditions that day.

581 Macker  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:48:07am

Good Morning Lizards! I'm kinda in a feisty mood today, as I'm hoping to start a Flame War on another board...and a liberal one at that. Long story short: someone over at that board ranted about Bush not being properly "elected", so I sent this user the following e-mail:

Good thing I'm taking this to PM to avoid a flame war. So tell me, how was Bush not "properly elected"? Was it because he got fewer pupular votes than Al Gore, which hadn't happened since 1888? Was it becasue you wanted the Democrats to keep re-counting votes until Gore won? Or perhaps it was becust SCOTUS stepped in and stopped Florida's Supreme Court from changing their state's election law in the middle of an election?
It's usually one of those three.

We'll soon see if it bites. Heheheheheheheh....

582 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:49:19am

re: #579 MandyManners


Who was that asshole?

I'd have to go back and check. Somebody who usually shows up late and starts insulting.

583 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:50:06am

re: #579 MandyManners

WTF? Seriously? That is beneath contempt. Who was that asshole?

That was the first I heard about it. Charles should have given that person the stick. Even if the poster agreed with Charles that was an unforgivable sin.

584 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:50:26am

re: #580 3 wood

The important things is if the clubs fit you and your swing, and the types of shots you want to hit.

A good builder can make clubs that will hit draws, or hit fades, or hit it low, or hit high shots.

All depends on what you want to hit.

When I was playing competitively, I always took 3 sets of clubs to the course in my trunk (built to hit high, low, or in between trajectories) and I would use the set that best fit the conditions that day.

Yea, Carter has a number of "Pro's" who are constantly coming by to have their shafts adjusted to their swing characteristics. We are essentially making super custom shafts for these guys.

585 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:50:53am

re: #576 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Let's hope Charles used the stick on that person.

Well, like I say, I've learned a lot about some people in skimming those threads.

586 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:52:45am

As someone who distained former POTUS Clinton to a degree that can scarce be equaled let me just say...

After listening to that oracle of our time, the soon-to-be-crowned Obama, struggle through an unscripted interview (in Jordan, is it?) I must come to the sad conclusion that Clinton was far superior in his communication skills.

That's kinda scary.

587 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:53:39am

re: #584 doriangrey

We are essentially making super custom shafts for these guys.

Lot's of the pro's hit sahfts that the public can not get. But then again, they have swings that the public generally don't have either.

I have a swing speed with the driver of about 115 mph, and can hit a draw or fade on command if that gives you any indication of my swing :)

588 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:54:54am

re: #582 3 wood

I'd have to go back and check. Somebody who usually shows up late and starts insulting.

This is the search page on which I've found the last of her comments. It was on the Fourth.

589 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:55:06am

re: #586 razorbacker

As someone who distained former POTUS Clinton to a degree that can scarce be equaled let me just say...

After listening to that oracle of our time, the soon-to-be-crowned Obama, struggle through an unscripted interview (in Jordan, is it?) I must come to the sad conclusion that Clinton was far superior in his communication skills.

That's kinda scary.

Sigh...........I actually like Clinton until I learned what a scum bucket he was. I though he was quite good at communicating. Not quite RR, but still very good at it.

590 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:55:30am

re: #583 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Unbelievably crass and evil.

591 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:55:43am

re: #573 3 wood

My recollection is somebody told Mama that she deserved her illness cause of her faith.

That's truly infuriating to read. The world is full of assholes.

592 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:56:43am

re: #591 christheprofessor

Hey Christ. We were talking about you the other day (yesterday?) about how some nics just invite an incorrect read.

593 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:57:30am

re: #587 3 wood

Lot's of the pro's hit sahfts that the public can not get. But then again, they have swings that the public generally don't have either.

I have a swing speed with the driver of about 115 mph, and can hit a draw or fade on command if that gives you any indication of my swing :)

ROTFLMAO..........I dont play golf, but I understand enough of what you are saying to know that if you used Penley Shafts, we would probably be making you a custom shaft.

594 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:00:46am

re: #592 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Christ. We were talking about you the other day (yesterday?) about how some nics just invite an incorrect read.

Heh. It's not like I go by christhesavior...

Besides, long-time Lizards know my full nic is christheredneckprofessor, but the redneck is silent... ;)

595 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:01:17am

Good morning all y'all - from a moderate (71 degrees, going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte (though we're supposed to get "horrendous" T-Storms, Lightning, Hail, heavy rain, frogs, petistulance, locusts and a few other things today!).
How is everyone this morning? Any of our Texas lizards check in yet?

596 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:01:59am

re: #594 christheprofessor

Heh. It's not like I go by christhesavior...

Besides, long-time Lizards know my full nic is christheredneckprofessor, but the redneck is silent... ;)

And here I though you were a genuine professor...

597 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:02:00am

re: #575 3 wood

I find that the conversation usually degrades into a back and forth to come up with the most crushing and hurtful insult.

It's told me a lot about some people here, let me tell you.

I hear ya.

I'm a believer, but the ID threads are fascinating to me.

People tend to be courteous, for the most part... my overall observation. Direct and firm in their convictions perhaps, but still courteous.

There are a few folks here though - on both sides of the aisle - who have no problem at all bullying others to make a point... and they do so whenever the opportunity arises. And if there are other like-minded folks present, they mob the target relentlessly.

It doesn't say a lot about their character, their maturity, or their debating skills.

598 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:02:20am

re: #589 doriangrey

Sigh...........I actually like Clinton until I learned what a scum bucket he was. I though he was quite good at communicating. Not quite RR, but still very good at it.

Billy Jeff strikes me a the kind of guy that could be very useful if, for example, your plan for the evening was to down shots and score some tail-who-isn't-your-spouse. He'd make a great wingman, and past experience tells us Bill wouldn't mind taking care of the less attractive girlfriend of your primary target.

I'm not so much applauding it as pointing it out.

599 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:02:21am

re: #595 realwest

Good morning. How's yer e-mail doing?

600 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:02:35am

re: #593 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO..........I dont play golf, but I understand enough of what you are saying to know that if you used Penley Shafts, we would probably be making you a custom shaft.

I was getting ready to go to "Q" school a few years ago to try for a tour card, then I tore my rotator cuff.

*rubs shoulder and winces in pain*

Now I just play recreationally on the weekends.

601 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:02:38am

re: #595 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a moderate (71 degrees, going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte (though we're supposed to get "horrendous" T-Storms, Lightning, Hail, heavy rain, frogs, petistulance, locusts and a few other things today!).
How is everyone this morning? Any of our Texas lizards check in yet?

Good morning realwest, hope you are feeling well this morning...

602 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:02:51am

re: #596 doriangrey

Actually, I am...

603 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:03:00am

re: #578 doriangrey

There is no injection molding of carbon fiber shafts. The process of making composite shafts is quite time consuming. The carbon fiber comes in sheets and has to be hand cut into patterns and hand rolled onto steel mandrels. I wouldn't consider 80 dollars a pound for carbon fiber all that cheap. Granted you can get quite a few shafts out of a pound of carbon fiber, five I think, but still thats really not very cheap.


Shafts are typically 65 tp 75 grams total weight (from your website by the way). Slight variations exist but typically the resin to carbon fiber weight percent can be as high as 1:1. So for a 70 gram shaft that would be roughly 35 grams (.077 lbs) each of resin and carbon fiber. The resin costs you $2/lb and assume your number of $80/lb for thecarbon fiber, my math gives me a total cost of $6.33 per shaft.

604 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:03:48am

re: #595 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a moderate (71 degrees, going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte (though we're supposed to get "horrendous" T-Storms, Lightning, Hail, heavy rain, frogs, petistulance, locusts and a few other things today!).
How is everyone this morning? Any of our Texas lizards check in yet?

Got a nice rain last night, but it was localized. Needed the rain badly. We are way north of Dolly, and I refuse to get overexcited.

Howsomever, she is the warning shot for all of us slackers who need to stock up on emergency supplies. Once the storm is in the Gulf headed for YOU, it's too late.

605 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:03:53am

re: #99 Maximu§
Maybe he was too short? Understand the CG has a height requirement. Six Foot. That way if the ship sinks, you can wade ashore.

606 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:04:08am

re: #587 3 wood Hey there my friend! It's funny, I use the exact same clubs you do when we play golf together! LOL!
BTW, got an error message on my e-mail to your work addy - says it's in "queue" for more than 24 hours but will keep on trying to deliver it.
Hmmmmmm.

607 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:04:36am

re: #595 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a moderate (71 degrees, going up to 89 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte (though we're supposed to get "horrendous" T-Storms, Lightning, Hail, heavy rain, frogs, petistulance, locusts and a few other things today!).
How is everyone this morning? Any of our Texas lizards check in yet?

Good morning realwest, my son is home :).

608 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:04:53am

re: #597 irish rose


It doesn't say a lot about their character, their maturity, or their debating skills.

I find that how people behave on line with the relative anonymity of the key board tells you a lot about their character. Good and bad.

609 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:04:58am

re: #600 3 wood

I was getting ready to go to "Q" school a few years ago to try for a tour card, then I tore my rotator cuff.

*rubs shoulder and winces in pain*

Now I just play recreationally on the weekends.

Sorry to hear about that, but on the positive side, at least I wont be spending hours and hours fine tuning a set of shafts for you.... ;P

610 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:05:52am

Good morning everybody. If you haven't already, treat yourself to this solid smack-down of the Anointed One. Every stupid thing Obama said on his scripted flying unicorn show is torn to shreds.

That Was Counterterrorism, Senator

Presidential Candidate Obama’s statements in and about Iraq in the past 24 hours have been nothing less than shameless and disgraceful. While we strive to avoid political discussion at ThreatsWatch, criticism of his words transcends rank political partisanship if for no other reason than his claims are simply and flatly untrue, made in a war zone, during a time of war and while running to become the Commander in Chief of US Military Forces. This simply cannot stand unchallenged.

Nice start, & it gets even better. RTWT!

611 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:06:41am

About two weeks ago, I noticed mama winger at Babba's blog, more often than here. She left a comment at my blog with her e-mail address, asking me a question. I replied to the e-mail but she hasn't responded. She could be camping. I think in her neck of the woods ice fishing season begins in about two weeks, so I think she's enjoying the nice weather while it lasts. Her last comment didn't show too much anger.

612 songbird  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:07:02am

re: #567 HoosierHoops

yea songbird.. it's like a knive fight in a crowded bar.

Yep. Someone's bound to get stabbed....and we've 'lost' a few good regulars here over ID and anti-ID.

re: #570 doriangrey

I wont even read or post in the ID threads because so many people on both sides of the issue are arguing from fevered emotional positions and only hear what they want to hear.

I can totally understand Charles warning us that radical Islam supports and teaches "Creationism" and that if Creationism were to be taught in our classrooms it could give a foothold for Islam to further their goals in our country.

Right now I'm beating myself over the head for not finding a documented source about Islamic scholars choosing to base everything on faith rather than reason in or around the 10th century.

613 songbird  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:08:28am

re: #573 3 wood

My recollection is somebody told Mama that she deserved her illness cause of her faith.

That is just sick and a total abberation of what God's word says. Was it a 'Word of Faith" person that said that?

614 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:09:00am

re: #611 ec marm

Where can I find Babba's blog?

615 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:09:18am

re: #599 christheprofessor
Good morning CtP! Well Earthlink finally figured out that one of two e-mails I'd received was "corrupted" and since I hadn't opened the second of the two, thought that it was the first one that was corrupted. But I will say that Earthlink really jumped on the problem and had it completely resolved and my e-mail is running perfectly now!
And it only took 'em about 1+1/2 hours over the phone to figure it out and clean it out!
How are you doing this fine morning?
BTW, like your new avatar - Lightning just seems to get cuter the older she gets!

616 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:09:18am

re: #610 Kenneth

Good morning everybody. If you haven't already, treat yourself to this solid smack-down of the Anointed One. Every stupid thing Obama said on his scripted flying unicorn show is torn to shreds.

That Was Counterterrorism, Senator


Nice start, & it gets even better. RTWT!

Didn't he also credit Sadr?

618 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:10:03am

re: #606 realwest

BTW, got an error message on my e-mail to your work addy - says it's in "queue" for more than 24 hours but will keep on trying to deliver it.
Hmmmmmm.

You hit my clubs amazingly well. Ladies and gentlemen, our realwest is a monster off the tee with the driver, hits these massive towering shots with ease. All he needs is a driver, an 8 iron and a putter.

With regard to the emails, use my university addy then.

How's the tooth pain this morning?

619 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:10:39am

re: #614 Big Steve

Where can I find Babba's blog?

620 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:10:52am

re: #614 Big Steve

First off, Good morning all.

Here is Babba's Blog

[Link: babbazeesbrain.blogspot.com...]

621 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:10:56am

re: #589 doriangrey

I tend to agree. Clinton was charming, in a sleazy sort of way, and at least his policies tended to the middle, unlike Obama's far-left orientation. Before he became a pompous Saint of the Church of Gaia, even Al Gore was appealing in a dull, plodding sort of way. But the more I see of Obama, the more I detest him. And I trust him even less than I trusted Bill Clinton.

622 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:11:48am

re: #614 Big Steve

Where can I find Babba's blog?

[Link: babbazeesbrain.blogspot.com...]

623 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:11:59am

re: #611 ec marm

Mama Winger has regularly taken breaks from posting here. She'll be back.

624 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:12:48am

re: #615 realwest

Glad to hear it's all fixed.

Took the new avatar pic July 11 (12 days ago). She found a toy in a puddle and plopped down to chew on it for a bit...

625 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:12:49am

re: #601 doriangrey
Hey dorian! Well I'm feeling out of sorts this morning.
Damned Oral Surgeon didn't do anything yesterday (except have me CHEW on a stainless steel dental instrument's handle, the pain from which I still feel) and decide he had to talk to my dentist and my endodontist to figure out for sure which tooth needed to be pulled.
There are times when I think my endodontist, dentist and oral surgeon are named Larry, Curly and Moe! So I just sit here waiting for the phone to ring.
How are you doing? Got that vette back on the road yet?

626 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:12:54am

re: #621 Kenneth

I tend to agree. Clinton was charming, in a sleazy sort of way, and at least his policies tended to the middle, unlike Obama's far-left orientation. Before he became a pompous Saint of the Church of Gaia, even Al Gore was appealing in a dull, plodding sort of way. But the more I see of Obama, the more I detest him. And I trust him even less than I trusted Bill Clinton.

As a gunowner who spent 8 years at the center of Clinton's domestic "policy", I have no use for him whatsoever.

If Bill told me it was raining, I'd check to see if his fly was undone.

627 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:13:13am

re: #616 MandyManners

Yes, he did. And the Iranians. Obama will throw all 30 million Iraqis under a big deadly Iranian bus. You can count on it.

628 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:13:28am

re: #609 doriangrey


at least I wont be spending hours and hours fine tuning a set of shafts for you.... ;P


That's true. Besides, I got enough spare components around my basement shop that I can build clubs as needed for quite a few years yet.

629 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:14:13am

re: #625 realwest


There are times when I think my endodontist, dentist and oral surgeon are named Larry, Curly and Moe!

They can't be; the Three Stooges have been in my lab for three days doing a one-day copper plumbing job. ;)

630 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:14:17am

Hey Realwest...
good morning

631 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:14:37am

re: #607 irish rose
Hey Rose! Wow that's great news! How long is he gonna be home? Are you two (and the rest of the family) enjoying yourselves?!

632 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:14:48am

re: #610 Kenneth

Excellent find. Thanks for posting the link.

633 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:14:56am

re: #182 Inquisitive
ADHD is not a bar to enlistment.

634 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:15:13am

You've no doubt heard that solving the energy crisis requires 'thinking outside the box'. Frank J. just stomps the box flat.

I know. You're like, "Won't that still take millions of years until they become oil?" Not if we use some sort of time machine to speed up time on them and make them turn into oil in minutes. "But we don't know how to make a time machine!" you say. Well, do we know how to write a letter?

We just write a letter and bury it in the ground. The letter will say, "People of the future. We need one of your time machines to help us make oil. Please give us one." When someone far in the future finds the letter, he'll know to come back and give us a time machine. We might as well ask for an efficient way of making dinosaurs while we're at it, too. Actually, why can't they just bring us some of the oil they made by resurrecting dinosaurs, killing them again, and time machining them into oil (which should be known as the "Frank Method")?

Now that I think of it, the people of the future are some greedy bastards. They're right now just sitting around with all their time machines, abundant oil, and hoverboards and they're not sharing. What a bunch of punks. They owe us! We're they're ancestors! I bet a lot of their luxury are based off my ideas!

I'll kill them. That's what I'll do...I know your worry: Won't we go to hell for murdering people? That's the thing: They won't be murdered until after we're dead. God can't judge you for things you haven't done yet. And when people in the future die and you're already in Heaven, He can't rejudge you because the Constitution doesn't allow double jeopardy (except on game shows).

So it's a full proof plan. Well, I guess terrorizing the people of the future is a little bit convoluted, but you have to admit it's the most realistic plan you've seen so far about solving the oil crisis.

Short of more drilling, that is.

635 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:15:25am

re: #626 OldLineTexan

LOL! I'm not saying I liked his policies. I didn't trust him, but at least I knew what he was after: power & p*ssy. Not necessarily in that order.

What's Obama after?

636 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:16:02am

re: #625 realwest


Damned Oral Surgeon didn't do anything yesterday (except have me CHEW on a stainless steel dental instrument's handle, the pain from which I still feel) and decide he had to talk to my dentist and my endodontist to figure out for sure which tooth needed to be pulled.

That does not give me a whole lot of warm fuzzies that they have a good grasp of what is going on with you.

637 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:16:05am

re: #603 Big Steve

Shafts are typically 65 tp 75 grams total weight (from your website by the way). Slight variations exist but typically the resin to carbon fiber weight percent can be as high as 1:1. So for a 70 gram shaft that would be roughly 35 grams (.077 lbs) each of resin and carbon fiber. The resin costs you $2/lb and assume your number of $80/lb for thecarbon fiber, my math gives me a total cost of $6.33 per shaft.

I'm not trying to pick a fight with you Steve, but there is obviously a lot here you don't know. For instance, 65 to 75 grams is the finished weight, not the weight of the carbon required to produce the shaft. Second the carbon fiber comes with the resin already on it and the ratio is nowhere close to 1:1. In order to get the strength characteristics the blank shaft starts out almost three the length and nearly four times the weight as the finished product. In short, the combination of labor and materials puts a single shaft around 25 to 30 buck to produce. But then again, what would I know, I'm not management, I'm just a production supervisor.

638 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:16:45am

re: #197 lifeofthemind

San Marino

Vatican City

639 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:17:00am

re: #632 christheprofessor

Credit goes to seekeroftruth up in the link viewer.

640 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:17:33am

re: #639 Kenneth

Ah, gracias. I have to start using that...

641 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:18:40am
642 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:19:07am

re: #635 Kenneth

LOL! I'm not saying I liked his policies. I didn't trust him, but at least I knew what he was after: power & p*ssy. Not necessarily in that order.

What's Obama after?

Power. It's always power. No one is his/her right mind would want to be POTUS post-Nixon.

Once he was an idealist, now he is the willing frontman for kingmakers.

643 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:19:20am

re: #607 irish rose

...my son is home :).

Please invite your son to to visit LGF so we can thank him for his service. Any son of yours is an honorary lizard!

644 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:19:24am

re: #618 3 wood
Yes, yes I do hit those clubs amazingly well - and would hit 'em even better if it wasn't for this danged rotator cuff I injured a couple years ago! LOL!
As to how my teeth are, please see my #625!

645 beachkatie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:21:19am

re: #521 lone_wolf_in_illinois

i've read all of the late night thread.....Zombie visits nude beach..he posted pictures.. i guess S.F. rubs off on ya!

646 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:21:22am

re: #624 christheprofessor Good lord! You mean you've had that new avatar up for 12 days and I just noticed it NOW? OY - I need new glasses, too!
She is really cute and I'll bet she's ready to play anytime you want to - or even if you don't want to!

647 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:22:11am

re: #271 Colonel Panik

Small area on top of a mountain, surrounded by Italy. Main language is Italian.

648 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:22:25am

re: #629 OldLineTexan
Well ok, then Huey, Dewie and Louie (Lewey? dang senior moment!)!

649 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:22:35am

re: #626 OldLineTexan

As a gunowner who spent 8 years at the center of Clinton's domestic "policy", I have no use for him whatsoever.

If Bill told me it was raining, I'd check to see if his fly was undone.

I almost snorted coffee through my nose!

Good morning, OldLine...are you loving this weather or what?

650 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:22:41am

From a previous comment this time last year, I see that mama winger goes somewhere for two weeks every year for the past 30 years, during this time of year.

651 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:23:31am

re: #635 Kenneth

LOL! I'm not saying I liked his policies. I didn't trust him, but at least I knew what he was after: power & p*ssy. Not necessarily in that order.

What's Obama after?


Savior of the Universe status.

652 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:23:35am
653 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:23:46am

re: #630 HoosierHoops
Good morning back atcha HH! Still can't get over your having to have 67 stiches in your left wrist back when!
Geez, that's more stitches than I've had in my entire life!

654 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:24:09am

I see that the ravenous beast of capitalism is beginning to salivate. So if one of you kind souls will stage a distraction to the rear, I'll attempt to snatch a few bucks from beneath its scaly claws.

Wish me luck.

655 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:24:43am

Saw something really sad yesterday. Earlier this summer, while the puppy was swimming at the pond, a lady walking her dog around the pond stopped by to let her dog play with mine. She casually mentioned in the conversation that she had a brain tumor.

Yesterday, I saw her again but didn't recognize her (not because of the illness but rather because her hair was shorter and I'd only seen her that one time before). Another lady was helping her to maintain her balance. When her dog came over, I inquired about it, but didn't get an answer (I assumed she hadn't heard me). The other lady came over came over and said softly that she didn't respond because she had a brain tumor and was leaving tomorrow (it was then that I recognized her). I assume she meant that she was going someplace to be cared for in her remaining days.

It was just so sad to see. Almost brought me to tears. I prayed for her last night, and I'd greatly appreciate it if any of you so inclined would do the same.

656 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:25:29am

re: #637 doriangrey

I was being generous on the ration because typically the resin is a much higher percentage of the weight. I realize you get the carbon fiber and resin as a pre-preg. But carbon fiber, in of itself, is very light, it is just like the weight of pencil lines on a piece of paper.

BTW your last line was unnecessary in that regardless of how you get your knowledge I respect it. I had not realized you turn down so much of the shaft. So I will fold my tent and lets all agree that the shaft, with labor, is more than $12. Still doesn't account for how a driver can cost >$300 though.

657 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:25:40am

re: #646 realwest

No, I just put it up this morning (this is the first thread it's been on)...

658 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:25:45am

I can understand about hurt feelings.

I will add for the sake of discussion though, that those who are "stomping off and staying away" to make some kind of point - camping out elsewhere, hiding behind email circles, making little jabs and stabs from afar - are behaving like petulant little children who are looking for attention and adulation.

This is not adult behavior, folks, it's grade school behavior.

659 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:26:46am

re: #646 realwest

Oops, forgot -- yes, she plays at the drop of a hat. She doesn't care if I'm busy or what, if she's feeling rambunctious, it's time to play...

660 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:27:16am

re: #636 3 wood
You neither huh? Geez, I don't know why it's so HARD for three supposedly well trained and very eperienced professionals to make up their collective minds.
OTOH, I'd druther not have them pull the wrong tooth out! LOL!

661 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:27:29am

re: #645 beachkatie

i guess S.F. rubs off on ya!

Well, that's a very disturbing thought.

662 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:27:40am

re: #641 ploome hineni

ya think the Obamination will pardon him?


Please.
Please.
Do not put a thought like that into Obama's empty brain.
That [deleted] [deleted] Mumia stuck his gun into the back of a downed policeman's head and blew his brains out at point blank range. If he wasn't a [deleted] [deleted] and the court system wasn't so afraid of some group torching the city of Philadelphia he would be earthworn food right now.

663 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:28:00am

By the way, if Jammie is out there, I hope things ar

664 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:28:55am

re: #631 realwest

Hey Rose! Wow that's great news! How long is he gonna be home? Are you two (and the rest of the family) enjoying yourselves?!

He went out jogging this morning at 5:00am, not back yet.
I'm making a big breakfast as we speak.

Two weeks, that's all we have before he goes back to San Diego to prep for his next deployment.

665 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:30:04am

re: #664 irish rose

Hats off to you both

666 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:30:07am

re: #658 irish rose

I can understand about hurt feelings.

I will add for the sake of discussion though, that those who are "stomping off and staying away" to make some kind of point - camping out elsewhere, hiding behind email circles, making little jabs and stabs from afar - are behaving like petulant little children who are looking for attention and adulation.

This is not adult behavior, folks, it's grade school behavior.


Hmm. Who was it got that got all pissy one morning and demanded that Charles cancel her account? What was that about?

667 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:30:10am

re: #649 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I almost snorted coffee through my nose!

Good morning, OldLine...are you loving this weather or what?

Absolutely love it; I hope it's not too hard on the rest of the folks.

668 songbird  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:30:41am
669 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:31:51am

re: #668 songbird

I think I found the answer to part of my question.

The Unnecessary Tension Between Faith And Reason Has Its Roots In The Extremes Of Fideism And Rationalism

What does Fidel have to do with it?

/

670 Vergeltung  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:32:12am

re: #664 irish rose

He went out jogging this morning at 5:00am, not back yet.
I'm making a big breakfast as we speak.

Two weeks, that's all we have before he goes back to San Diego to prep for his next deployment.

enjoy your time with him, and glod bless!

671 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:32:27am
672 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:33:02am

re: #655 christheprofessor Prayers going up now CtP!
You're a good man, ya know that?

673 Vergeltung  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:33:09am

re: #670 Vergeltung

arg, PIMF! *God

674 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:33:22am
675 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:34:16am

re: #672 realwest

Thanks...

676 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:35:02am

re: #658 irish rose

I can understand about hurt feelings.
I will add for the sake of discussion though, that those who are "stomping off and staying away" to make some kind of point - camping out elsewhere, hiding behind email circles, making little jabs and stabs from afar - are behaving like petulant little children who are looking for attention and adulation.
This is not adult behavior, folks, it's grade school behavior.

You are so right.
But there are also those who sincerely believe that their basic beliefs are not respected - and they should not be faulted for staying away.

677 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:35:16am

re: #671 ploome hineni

I have been thinking about that for a while now

who else will the Obamination pardon


A pardon of Mumia/Wesley Cook would be about the most vile act he could possibly perform. Which kind of puts it into the realm of possibility, if Soros ordered him to do it. I don't even want to think about it.

678 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:35:26am

re: #658 irish rose Um, Rose, with all due respect, some folks are staying off because they believe the tenor of LGF has changed; on both sides of the aisle and I don't want to get into a fight about this, so suggest we all stop with the generalizations, OK?

679 songbird  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:35:28am

re: #669 christheprofessor

What does Fidel have to do with it?

/

My first good laugh of the day! Thank you!

680 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:36:33am

re: #666 ec marm

Hmm. Who was it got that got all pissy one morning and demanded that Charles cancel her account? What was that about?

Well EC Marm, since you simply can't leave something that happened months ago alone, I'll tell you why I was upset that morning.

I received a cancer diagnosis a few days before sending my son off to his first deployment. When I went out to San Diego to see him, I knew what I was facing and I couldn't tell him about it. I went through the treatment (chemo) and stayed quiet about it here at LGF during the months that he was at sea, because he's a regular reader here.

He knows now.
And so do you, so I'll ask you not to bring this up again.

/thouroughly pissed and out of here for a while

681 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:38:07am
682 3 wood  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:38:08am

re: #663 3 wood

By the way, if Jammie is out there, I hope things ar


My system hiccuped.

I was saying, that if Jammie is out there, I hope things are going okay for you.

683 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:38:25am

re: #674 ploome hineni

who?


I was ordered not to mention the persons name ever again. Let's just say she's no friend of Babba's.

684 Dolphin  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:38:30am

re: #595 realwest

Houston here - not a drop of rain yet.

frogs, petistulance, locusts

LOL.

I was looking for jorline - he is down there in the thick of it.

685 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:38:39am

re: #679 songbird

My first good laugh of the day! Thank you!

Quite welcome...

686 Lively  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:39:22am

re: #655 christheprofessor

Saw something really sad yesterday. Earlier this summer, while the puppy was swimming at the pond, a lady walking her dog around the pond stopped by to let her dog play with mine. She casually mentioned in the conversation that she had a brain tumor.

Yesterday, I saw her again but didn't recognize her (not because of the illness but rather because her hair was shorter and I'd only seen her that one time before). Another lady was helping her to maintain her balance. When her dog came over, I inquired about it, but didn't get an answer (I assumed she hadn't heard me). The other lady came over came over and said softly that she didn't respond because she had a brain tumor and was leaving tomorrow (it was then that I recognized her). I assume she meant that she was going someplace to be cared for in her remaining days.

It was just so sad to see. Almost brought me to tears. I prayed for her last night, and I'd greatly appreciate it if any of you so inclined would do the same.

Thanks for your post. I'll keep her in my prayers.

687 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:39:54am

re: #682 3 wood Hey, Jammie was out here a couple of days ago for the first time, iirc, since the funeral and thanked me for the flowers! Y'all should probably shoot him an e-mail but I think he also said he was gonna be taking this week or this week and next week "off" which for him means he's only gonna work like 40 hours a week!

688 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:40:10am

re: #658 irish rose

I would suggest that if you have a problem with someone's comments, presence or absence that you address it head on-instead of through innuendo. People who don't post here for whatever reason-banned, preference or having their hair done-can't defend themselves. It's not right.

689 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:40:58am

Ok .. a bit late on the LGF action for today/this week

But something worrying has come to mind.

Saddam Hussein - evil dictator type guy - arrested in a hidey hole - somewhat looking like Santa .....

Radovan Kardedic - evil dictator type guy - arrested incognito -
somewhat looking like Santa ......

ok .. the obvious question that no-one has thought about ...

IS SANTA REALLY AN EVIL DICTATOR?

I have placed a message to be sent to the North Pole for his immediate and unconditional surrender .. to hand over all reindeer and oppressed elvenkind and to come back to be dealt with at a fair trial of his peers.

In the meantime make sure any 'toys' you get from Santa are checked for safety and reliability .. and of course .. drugs and weapons.

690 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:41:02am
691 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:41:11am

re: #686 Lively

Thank you.

692 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:41:36am
693 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:41:48am

re: #681 ploome hineni

I agree with you about beliefs. But I disagree about the party conversation. Those are the most fun topics around...

694 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:42:32am

re: #690 ploome hineni

NOTHING is beyond Obama

Absolutely. There is no limit to this guy's ignorance, stupidity and moral inversions.

695 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:42:40am

Two stories of incredible bravery.

Pilot earns Distinguished Service Cross after fighting off surprise attack

'Hog Pilot's Quick Thinking, Huge Gonads

Note to Obama: this is why the Us is winning the war on Terrror, not because of your brilliant plans which nobody listened to but miraculously managed to work anyway.

696 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:42:49am

re: #689 Buster Bunny

IS SANTA REALLY AN EVIL DICTATOR?

Only if one is dyslexic...

/sorry

697 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:42:57am
698 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:43:10am

re: #681 ploome hineni
Well ploome, of course you're right - no one is ENTITLED to have their beliefs' respected, but then again, no one is obligated to go anywhere where they feel that their beliefs are NOT being respected, either. And for those who were long time LGFer's, I imagine it wasn't an easy choice to make (about staying away, I mean).

699 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:43:25am

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama pardoned the DC snipers.

700 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:43:35am

re: #681 ploome hineni

no one is ENTITLED to have their beliefs respected

we are all ENTITLED to hold whatever beliefs we want, and hafe that right respected

but, no one can force anyone to respect a 'belief', if you don't want to

that is why, sex, politics and religion are not good cocktail party conversations

While no one is entitled to have their beliefs respected, civilized humans can discuss the differences without subcumbing to base insults and personal attacks.

701 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:43:47am
702 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:43:47am

re: #693 WriterMom

I agree with you about beliefs. But I disagree about the party conversation. Those are the most fun topics around...

That's because you're a bread-in-the-bone sh*t disturber!

BTW, how's your son doing today?

703 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:43:48am

re: #437 littleoldlady

It's dead, Jim.

So...what's the Obamessiah up to in the Holy Land?


Agenda says: heal the sick, resurrect the dead, distribute fish and loaves of bread...........

704 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:44:13am

re: #694 WriterMom

Absolutely. There is no limit to this guy's ignorance, stupidity and moral inversions.

There seems to be a whole group of people making the OBAMA - MABUS connection (google it) MABUS was the guy that Nostradamus wrote about as the third antichrist.

Heck .. if he is, the party has just got started.

705 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:44:31am
706 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:44:48am

re: #695 Kenneth

Two stories of incredible bravery.

Pilot earns Distinguished Service Cross after fighting off surprise attack

'Hog Pilot's Quick Thinking, Huge Gonads

Note to Obama: this is why the Us is winning the war on Terrror, not because of your brilliant plans which nobody listened to but miraculously managed to work anyway.

Great story. I loved the Star Wars action - "Captain, you've turned off your infrared screens...is something wrong?".

;)

707 irish rose  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:45:59am

re: #683 ec marm

I was ordered not to mention the persons name ever again. Let's just say she's no friend of Babba's.


He's talking about me.
And if Babba thinks that I'm "no friend of hers", then it's her problem not mine. I've never stated such a thing or even implied it.

Thanks for ruining my day, EC.

708 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:46:01am

re: #684 Dolphin Good morning Dolphin! Glad to know SOMEONE picked up on my little "joke" there! LOL!
Yeah, he was on early this morning (Eastern time anyway) and said it looked like Brownsville was going get slammed.
I surely do hope nobody down that way (including MiguleinMexico - though I'm not sure where he lives) gets hurt or anything.

709 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:46:29am

re: #689 Buster Bunny

Ok .. a bit late on the LGF action for today/this week

But something worrying has come to mind.

Saddam Hussein - evil dictator type guy - arrested in a hidey hole - somewhat looking like Santa .....

Radovan Kardedic - evil dictator type guy - arrested incognito -
somewhat looking like Santa ......

ok .. the obvious question that no-one has thought about ...

IS SANTA REALLY AN EVIL DICTATOR?

I have placed a message to be sent to the North Pole for his immediate and unconditional surrender .. to hand over all reindeer and oppressed elvenkind and to come back to be dealt with at a fair trial of his peers.

In the meantime make sure any 'toys' you get from Santa are checked for safety and reliability .. and of course .. drugs and weapons.

Christmas Eve, 2008, at your house.

710 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:46:47am

re: #681 ploome hineni

that is why, sex, politics and religion are not good cocktail party conversations

I once brought up religion at a party, and the host asked us not to discuss it, for the reasons you cited. Same with politics. When I asked about sex, she said, "Sure." So I said, "Good. F*ck you then!"

/old joke

711 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:47:43am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that another major terror attack was thwarted in Israel today. Israeli security stopped a car laden with explosives.

Those pesky Palestinians. Such moderation and humanity. /

712 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:47:50am

re: #705 ploome hineni

lol

are you calling you and me uncivilized?

*whack*

Oh, not at all! I'm talking about assholes who sling invective about faith no matter what kind of faith--well, except for ROP.

713 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:48:03am
714 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:48:09am

re: #702 Kenneth

YOU KNOW IT.

Actually, I had someone call me something funny...I was talking about having the time of my life torturing a former boss who hated me from the get go-and a friend said-you know what? You're "R"s Newman! I laughed myself silly. I mean-Newman was a fat sweaty perv-so I don't resemble him in that way, but the actual idea that he could cause Jerry to go insane just by his presence...that is totally funny and that's the effect I have on some folks (who are mostly a-holes, liberals, vegans, multi-cultists and people who need to get laid, yadda yadda)...

PS: Son is very good. Mom is still nuts.

715 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:48:54am
716 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:49:00am

re: #697 ploome hineni

Ad hominems? You?

Nah!

717 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:49:33am

re: #680 irish rose
You have no idea what is going on in other peoples lives. The people who are caring for parents in their final days, a brother-in-law in the final stages of metastasizing cancer, friends and a parent who recently died, and a host of other issues.
I keep those problems to myself as this is not the forum for MH issues. I keep my emotions under control.

718 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:49:47am
719 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:50:14am

re: #704 Buster Bunny

There seems to be a whole group of people making the OBAMA - MABUS connection (google it) MABUS was the guy that Nostradamus wrote about as the third antichrist.

Heck .. if he is, the party has just got started.

This site has some updating to do.

[Link: www.mabus.biz...]

720 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:50:19am

re: #709 MandyManners

Santa never comes to my house anymore. Maybe its the mezzuzah.

721 jorline  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:50:26am

Good morning, lizards...from the windy rain soaked Texas Gulf Coast. The rain started around 3am and we've picked up 2+ inches. Family in the Rio Grande Valley currently have 80 mph winds expected to reach over 100 mph.

It's going to be a crappy day for business!

722 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:50:33am

re: #709 MandyManners

Christmas Eve, 2008, at your house.


Hahaha
good one..
good morning mandy

723 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:51:04am
724 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:51:17am

re: #697 ploome hineni

I never 'talk' about anyone

:P

I just sling an ad hominem , now and then, and get it over with

Ploome, our resident lady, a delicate flower, a most refined and elegant . . . well, maybe not.

725 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:51:18am

re: #720 Buster Bunny

ROFL. Either that or you left the wrong kind of gefilte fish by the fireplace.

Santa likes SWEET gefilte fish, not PEPPER, you idiot!

/lol

726 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:51:24am

is even FOX on the obama tingle parade? you tell me. the first paragraph is the headline of the article on the fox news website. doesn't it seem to suggest that the VP candidates dropping out, as they put it, are all GOPer's? it does to me...or am I wrong? at the bottom of the article it mentions the dem rendell not wanting the dem vp slot. but to me its worded against the McCain campaign and that no one wants the GOP VP nomination....
[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

727 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:51:58am

Barack Obama’s response...

...when asked about his assertion that the Surge was bad strategy is a picture perfect example of what Philip Tetlock described as the “I was almost right defense”. Tetlock described how analysts who failed to predict the fall of the Soviet Union still argued that if the coup attempts against Yeltsin had been somewhat better organized and succeeded there would still be a USSR. Hence they were almost right but they were betrayed by facts.

Go & read Obama's "analysis" of what happened in Iraq over the past 12 months. It's an incredible feat of rhetoric unchallenged by reality.

There has been success, but it's not because of the Surge. The Surge failed. The Anbar Awakening is what made it possible. My Plan endorsed political resolution over military operations. Therefore I was right!

728 Wyatt Earp  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:52:17am

re: #641 ploome hineni

ya think the Obamination will pardon him?

Jesus, I Hope not!

729 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:53:46am

re: #721 jorline

Good morning, lizards...from the windy rain soaked Texas Gulf Coast. The rain started around 3am and we've picked up 2+ inches. Family in the Rio Grande Valley currently have 80 mph winds expected to reach over 100 mph.

It's going to be a crappy day for business!

Well you can get a laugh today watching all those crazy weathermen
standing in the high winds and rain..trying to do a report..
hey folks..It's ok if you report on the hurricane from the other side of the window..

730 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:53:51am

re: #714 WriterMom

YOU KNOW IT.

Actually, I had someone call me something funny...I was talking about having the time of my life torturing a former boss who hated me from the get go-and a friend said-you know what? You're "R"s Newman! I laughed myself silly. I mean-Newman was a fat sweaty perv-so I don't resemble him in that way, but the actual idea that he could cause Jerry to go insane just by his presence...that is totally funny and that's the effect I have on some folks (who are mostly a-holes, liberals, vegans, multi-cultists and people who need to get laid, yadda yadda)...

PS: Son is very good. Mom is still nuts.

aaargh .. torture .... implicit pleasure from it .... Guano .. i mean .. Guantanamo ...... vegan facism ....

/leftist mode off ....

731 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:53:53am
732 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:54:16am

re: #695 Kenneth Whoa, some truly brave mofo's Kenneth - thanks for giving us those stories and the links to them.
How are y'all doing this morning?

733 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:54:27am
734 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:54:45am

re: #717 ec marm

You have no idea what is going on in other peoples lives. The people who are caring for parents in their final days, a brother-in-law in the final stages of metastasizing cancer, friends and a parent who recently died, and a host of other issues.
I keep those problems to myself as this is not the forum for MH issues. I keep my emotions under control.

Maybe you two should take a few minutes breather.

735 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:54:46am

re: #681 ploome hineni

no one is ENTITLED to have their beliefs respected
we are all ENTITLED to hold whatever beliefs we want, and hafe that right respected but, no one can force anyone to respect a 'belief', if you don't want to

That is true, and noone should feel guilty about withholding respect from something they strongly disagree with. But equally, those who leave for that reason are entitled to have their decision to leave respected.

736 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:55:14am
737 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:55:16am

re: #704 Buster Bunny
Watch with the ʇsıɹɥɔ-ıʇuɐ ; comments. Charles is cracking down on them. You might have to code them a little bit. I snuck the greek αντίχριστ ος in once when I kinda had to use it.

738 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:55:20am

ALEX JONES IS MABUS!

739 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:55:26am

Mornin' all.
"bloody tentacles and twisted minds" Israeli Amb. to UN on FNC just now. Talking about Iran, Hamas, Hezbollocks.

740 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:55:52am

re: #700 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy - much better said that I did in my #698.
Thanks.

741 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:55:55am

Heh.

/been there, done that.

742 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:55:55am

re: #714 WriterMom

I laughed myself silly. I mean-Newman was a fat sweaty perv-so I don't resemble him in that way,..

No, you're not fat or sweaty.

PS: Son is very good. Mom is still nuts.

Everything is back to normal then... good to hear!

743 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:57:06am
744 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:57:08am

re: #737 ec marm

Watch with the ʇsıɹɥɔ ;-ıʇuɐ comments. Charles is cracking down on them. You might have to code them a little bit. I snuck the greek αντίχ ριστο ς in once when I kinda had to use it.

Noted .. it was just an observation. We seem to be in a period where if it aint gonna be the end of times ... people seem to be baying for it.

Not nice.

745 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:57:31am

re: #732 realwest

It never fails to amaze me what these brave young men & women are capable of.

I'm doing fine thanks. And you?

746 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:58:28am
For the second time this year, Israel has decided to act against Al-Jazeera, after the influential TV station held a party for released Lebanese child-killer Samir Kuntar, The Jerusalem Post has learned.

The party, held in Beirut, was organized by the Al-Jazeera bureau there to honor Kuntar on the occasion of his release from Israeli prison. He was hailed as a hero who carried out a brave military operation against the Jewish state.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Thread me!

Thread me!

H/T IsraellyCool.

And Boker effen Tov to you!

747 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:00:15am

re: #720 Buster Bunny
Yeah, I think the mezzuzah that's keeping him away. That or someone's been waaay more naughty than nice! LOL!

748 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:00:15am

re: #710 christheprofessor

I once brought up religion at a party, and the host asked us not to discuss it, for the reasons you cited. Same with politics. When I asked about sex, she said, "Sure." So I said, "Good. F*ck you then!"

/old joke

Maybe some of the old salts with USN experience can help me out with this one. In a previous life I worked a job as a civilian contractor that required significant time spent aboard US Navy ships (both ashore and at sea) and on Navy bases. One of the things the company advised us was that it was considered a breach of Navy etiquette to discuss politics, religion, sex, or the United States Civil War either on base or aboard ship. Is that so, or was the company just being over cautious?

749 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:00:47am
750 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:00:53am

Confirmed? Edwards, busted with love child and mistress.

/ The best damned investigative journalists on the planet. Sure, the NYT might break a scoop or two... but the National Enquirer is where it's at. /K - MIB.

Well, that would explain why he's pretty much fallen out of the media glare, but curious the rest of the media never bothered to pursue the matter.

HT: kaus at slate

751 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:00:55am

re: #729 HoosierHoops

Well you can get a laugh today watching all those crazy weathermen
standing in the high winds and rain..trying to do a report..
hey folks..It's ok if you report on the hurricane from the other side of the window..

Asian reporter Tricia Takanawa?

752 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:01:06am

Hey guess what? It is raining like hell on S. Padre Island and gasp...a roof fell in, who'd a thunk it!

753 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:01:09am

re: #742 Kenneth

{WHACK}

I caught that one...don't think I'm not scrutinizing EVERY WORD!

754 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:01:13am

re: #721 jorline Hey good morning to you - glad to read that you're ok this morning! Dolphin was asking after you, too!

755 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:01:44am

re: #748 CIA Reject

I wasn't in the service (my brother was Navy) but I've never heard that...

756 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:02:13am
757 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:02:39am

From The Searchers:
Mose Harper: "That which we are about to receive, we thank thee, O Lord."

Looking at this election seems appropriate.

758 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:02:47am

re: #748 CIA Reject
Yes. We'd talk about anything and everything. My last ship was named for the battle Bobby Lee won before Gettysburg. USS Chancellorsville CG 62.

759 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:03:18am

re: #736 ploome hineni

that is quite hysterical, isn;t it

Almost as good as the reporter in a canoe talking about floods while three of four kids walk past her in the ankle-deep water.

760 jorline  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:03:41am

re: #729 HoosierHoops

Well you can get a laugh today watching all those crazy weathermen
standing in the high winds and rain..trying to do a report..
hey folks..It's ok if you report on the hurricane from the other side of the window..

They're dumb-shits...heard the Weather Channel report this morning that Houston was feeling the effects of Dolly with 20 mph winds...LOL

Our winds in Corpus Christi at this time are 50 mph and heavy rain.

761 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:03:52am

re: #729 HoosierHoops
"It's ok if you report on the hurricane from the other side of the window.."
ROFL! So true! But reporting from indoors sorta lacks the "flavor" of reporting the weather, ya know?!
LOL! Really good one HH.

762 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:04:14am

re: #717 ec marm

MH-is that 'mental health' issues?

763 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:04:28am

re: #740 realwest

Sometimes it's fun to be the turd in the punch-bowl but, not when something as intensely personal as faith is at play.

764 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:05:44am

re: #749 ploome hineni

shit

what am I gonna do?

/world has left me be hind

Good grief.

Young Reine has a metal plate in her head . . . I guess I'd better never try to put her on an airplane.

765 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:05:48am

re: #749 ploome hineni

what am I gonna do?


Watch this.


Enjoy.

766 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:05:49am

re: #699 christheprofessor

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama pardoned the DC snipers.


Hell, think of all the "poor victims" of poverty, racism and injustice who are falsely imprisoned now? He could free them all. Besides, after he's elected peace and love will rule the land. It will be a utopia. BTW, we won't need prisons then either.

767 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:05:58am

re: #760 jorline

It is quite balmy in Houston at the moment.

768 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:05:58am

re: #749 ploome hineni

shit

what am I gonna do?

/world has left me be hind

Mandi Hamlin said, "I had to get pliers and pull it apart."

IT WASN'T ME.

769 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:06:02am

There seem to be some members of our House of Reporesentatives who have an ounce or two of sense:

Hoekstra fights ban on terms that describe terrorists

The Bush administration advises officials to avoid the use of certain words when describing terrorism, saying the terms are inappropriate and counter-productive. But four members of the Michigan congressional delegation want to ban federal funds for initiatives that prohibit the use of the words, like "jihadist" and "Islamist."

Muslims have long considered the words slurs. The American and British governments now say the words unintentionally honor terrorists while marginalizing moderate Muslims, who believe that Islam provides no rationale for extremism, let alone terrorism.

Regardless, U.S. Rep. Peter Hoekstra, R-Holland, offered an amendment last week to the 2009 Intelligence Authorization Act that would ban financing for any restriction on such words. Reps. Joe Knollenberg, R-Bloomfield Hills, Thaddeus McCotter, R-Livonia, and Bart Stupak, D-Menominee, also voted for the amendment.

"None of the funds authorized to be appropriated by this act may be used to prohibit or discourage the use of the words or phrases 'jihadist,' 'jihad,' 'Islamo-fascism,' 'caliphate,' 'Islamist' or 'Islamic terrorist' by or within the intelligence community or the Federal Government," the amendment reads. It was approved by a 249-180 vote in the House. The Senate is working on its own authorization bill, and no such amendment has been offered, to date.

"I am sympathetic to the argument that if used inappropriately, the words can be counterproductive, but I find that the people who are criticizing this are very short on alternatives," Hoekstra said. "So how do they want us to describe al-Qaida and what they are involved with?"

770 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:06:13am

re: #743 ploome hineni
Uh, who is this "one" of which you speak?

771 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:06:19am

considered a breach of Navy etiquette to discuss politics, religion, sex, or the United States Civil War either on base or aboard ship..

Sailors not discussing sex?
that would be the end of the world...

772 JCM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:06:47am

Seattle City Clowncil is right on top of those priorites, rising crime, budget shortfalls, lack of police coverage, shitty roads.

Yep, they're right on top of it.


Grocery bag fee headed to full council

20-cent charges for paper or plastic set to come up for vote next week.

Meanwhile Baghdad Jim McDimwitt has solved the gas price crises.
McDermott Proposes 'Gas Stamps' For Families In Need

Can I get the EPA to check the water up here?

Morning, all!
SNAFU in the Great Northwet, surrounded by loons! At least that simplifies the problem.

773 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:07:12am

re: #766 grumpy old codger

We won't need police or a military, either...

774 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:07:30am

In reference to the SECOND bulldozer incident this month (where 16 people were injured - ONE seriously)

This is the writeup it got in my local page (www.theage.com.au)

I will include it as a whole so that i dont leave anything out.

BULLDOZER DRIVER SHOT

JERUSALEM A bulldozer driver was shot dead yesterday in central Jerusalem by an Israeli border policeman who feared he was about to carry out an attack with the vehicle.
The driver of the heavy machinery overturned two cars injuring one person before he was shot, witnesses said, in what appeared to be the second such attack in less than a month.
On July 2, a Palestinian killed at least three Israelis and wounded 30 other people in downtown Jerusalem when he rammed a bulldozer into a bus and cars before being shot dead.

Now .. can anyone see whats wrong with that lil story .. aside from the facts?

775 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:07:33am

re: #750 lawhawk

Confirmed? Edwards, busted with love child and mistress.

/ The best damned investigative journalists on the planet. Sure, the NYT might break a scoop or two... but the National Enquirer is where it's at. /K - MIB.
HT: kaus at slate

The married ex-senator from North Carolina - whose wife Elizabeth continues to battle cancer -- met with his mistress, blonde divorcée Rielle Hunter, at the Beverly Hilton on Monday night, July 21 - and the NATIONAL ENQUIRER was there! He didn't leave until early the next morning.
Rielle had driven to Los Angeles from Santa Barbara with a male friend for the rendezvous with Edwards. The former senator attended a press event Monday afternoon with L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa on the topic of how to combat homelessness

.
You combat homelessness by staying in the Beverly Hilton with yo bitch.
If this is true, that hypocritical SOB will be driven out of North Carolina.
On a f#cking rail.

776 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:07:41am

re: #745 Kenneth I'm ok, just still in awe of these incredibly brave young men (and women) who are so willing to serve their nation.
Those stories were truly humbling, my friend.

777 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:07:42am

re: #768 MandyManners

Geez...I would get a little suspicious if the screening dude or dudette said - hey, I'l take out that nipple ring for ya.

778 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:07:58am

re: #772 JCM

That's nuts, a manditory grocery bag fee. Do they really want to send all business to the suburbs? Are they as nuts as the Chicago City Council?

779 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:08:23am

re: #770 realwest

Uh, who is this "one" of which you speak?

There can be only One...

*Warning: Graphic Content May Offend Viewers With Messianic Aversion Disorder (MAD)

780 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:09:10am

re: #731 ploome hineni
Thank you.

781 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:09:12am

Afstan: The Globe and Mail manufactures a story undercutting our mission

Canada's once-lofty Afghan goals downgraded, defence files show

The Globe manufactured the story by comparing a February 2007 memo from then-CDS Gen. Hillier's office, obtained under Access to Information, with broad government priorities outlined in June 2008. Though the story purports to discover telling discrepancies between the two, it's really an apples and oranges thing--unless the story is also maintaining that the CDS's office set government policy as a whole...

The Globe and Mail, committing "journalism" yet again.

782 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:09:31am

re: #762 WriterMom
Yup. You know, I didn't start this. But I was there the morning the whole kerfluckle(sp) started with BZ, and I have the same operating system and exact browser as she does and the comment that started the whole battle was not deleted on my screen. I can't help defending someone who is taking knives in the back.

783 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:09:38am

re: #749 ploome hineni

shit

what am I gonna do?

/world has left me be hind

I've just read the whole article, and the power of TSA agents is extremely disgusting. There is no excuse for the invasions discussed in the article. None.

784 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:09:39am

re: #775 ibmkeyboard

.
You combat homelessness by staying in the Beverly Hilton with yo bitch.
If this is true, that hypocritical SOB will be driven out of North Carolina.
On a f#cking rail.

You and your monkey board do not frighten the Silky Pony!

/

785 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:09:40am

re: #755 christheprofessor

re: #756 ploome hineni

re: #758 pingjockey

Thanks! I've always suspected that they were just being over cautious but I never knew for sure.

/Amazin' the stuff you can learn on LGF!

786 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:10:04am

They are completely out of control.

Obama Campaign Prints German-language Flyers for Berlin Rally

Israelis don't vote in American elections.

Germans don't vote in American elections.

They are beginning to believe their own BS.

BBL

787 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:10:50am

re: #786 Ben Hur

ICH BIN EIN MESSIAHKOPF!

788 JCM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:10:57am

re: #778 Honorary Yooper

That's nuts, a manditory grocery bag fee. Do they really want to send all business to the suburbs? Are they as nuts as the Chicago City Council?

I think they're nuttier. Just not as corrupt, the big scandal is amateur hour compared to Chicago.

789 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:10:59am

re: #729 HoosierHoops

Well you can get a laugh today watching all those crazy weathermen
standing in the high winds and rain..trying to do a report..
hey folks..It's ok if you report on the hurricane from the other side of the window..

I'd love to be one of those reporters. However, I'd get blown away litterally. I once got scooted across a parking lot by a high wind in Denver.

790 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:11:05am

NYT Profits drop 82%. Pinch in a pinch?

Of course, given that Pinch and his family control the only class of stock that counts, it doesn't matter what the paper does as it slides towards being rated as a penny stock - which actually will accelerate the slide as mutual funds and large investment houses will unload the NYT stock from their portfolios since the NYT will no longer meet their investment criteria.

Congrats Pinch, you've done the improbable.

791 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:11:19am

re: #772 JCM
Business as usaul along the I-5 corridor I see. Over here on the eastside we're just having the occasional forest/brush fire to deal with. Much easier to fix than liberal asshats.

792 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:11:25am

re: #786 Ben Hur

They are completely out of control.

Obama Campaign Prints German-language Flyers for Berlin Rally

Israelis don't vote in American elections.

Germans don't vote in American elections.

They are beginning to believe their own BS.

BBL

Obama believes in equality. Since the dead can vote in Chicago*, why not everyone else?

*Not that Chicago is alone in this. West Texas dead helped elect LBJ many times.

793 Dolphin  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:11:27am

re: #708 realwest
:-)

Glad he has checked in.

I think MiM is in deep Mexico (Mexico City area) if my memory serves me correctly.

Hope you are doing well today and you get some relief from your toothache soon.

794 jorline  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:11:30am

re: #754 realwest

Hey good morning to you - glad to read that you're ok this morning! Dolphin was asking after you, too!

Thanks, RW...hope you're well this morning and that tooth has plenty of meds.

We're fine, but we have to watch flooding today and tomorrow. The kids went to school this morning and I'm firmly planted in one of the restaurants. Will keep you updated...to bad I don't serve beer...I could be kicking back and knocking down a few cold ones while watching the Weather Channel.

Please thank Dolphin if I'm off line.

795 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:11:41am

re: #750 lawhawk

Does this mean Silk Pony won't be VP to the Unicorn Whisperer's POTUS?

796 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:12:09am

BTW, here's a good one I put up in the spinoff links:

John Kass: Media's guilt plays well for Obama and McCain

"Did you ever notice that when John McCain is on TV he's always grumpy?" asked a colleague in the cafeteria who whispered, lest others denounce him for Barackian Thought Crimes.

"McCain's always made to look old and angry, a curmudgeon. And Barack Obama? He's always seen as presidential, cool, smiling, shaking hands," whispered the guy.

*******

Meanwhile, the Democrat Obama is treated quite differently. He's the Mr. Tumnus of American politics, the gentle forest faun of Narnia, with throngs of reporters trembling to sit with him at tea and cakes, like the little girl in the C.S. Lewis story, as he plays the flute, chanting "We Are The Change We've Been Waiting For." And nobody laughs.

You don't laugh because you can't make fun of Obama. The ground would swallow you whole.

*******

I hesitated to suggest this is because of liberal media bias, because the last time I said so, I was frightened and intimidated by the angry left blog Daily Kos, which has discovered that I'm not liberal. One Kos reader suggested that he'd read my column in the Tribune only "if the headline read 'Tribune Columnist Beaten to a Pulp.' "

How nice.

I didn't know Chicago Machine Democrats and their pals in the Illinois Republican Party were such devoted Kosmaniacs. Happily, one poster didn't want me dead. Just half dead and pulpy and ready to listen to reason.

How classy of the Kostards.

797 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:12:12am

Sorry, I had to drop off suddenly...a client walked in without appointment.

Did I miss anything?

798 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:12:12am

re: #776 realwest

What's up w/ the clinical trial, real? Have you found out whether you'll be able to participate?

799 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:12:18am

re: #789 MandyManners

I'd love to be one of those reporters. However, I'd get blown away litterally. I once got scooted across a parking lot by a high wind in Denver.

Just hang on to me and FBV. Obama's bus couldn't get over the two of us.

/

800 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:13:05am

re: #774 Buster Bunny

What's wrong with the story? Jeez, what's right with that version.

Heck, this little old blogger had more details in his morning coverage in the span of 2 hours than they put in there.

801 JCM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:13:08am

re: #783 MandyManners

I've just read the whole article, and the power of TSA agents is extremely disgusting. There is no excuse for the invasions discussed in the article. None.



Joe Foss, his CMH and TSA.


Marine Honor Guard and TSA.

802 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:13:24am

re: #748 CIA Reject

Maybe some of the old salts with USN experience can help me out with this one. In a previous life I worked a job as a civilian contractor that required significant time spent aboard US Navy ships (both ashore and at sea) and on Navy bases. One of the things the company advised us was that it was considered a breach of Navy etiquette to discuss politics, religion, sex, or the United States Civil War either on base or aboard ship. Is that so, or was the company just being over cautious?

The rules of the officer's wardroom are the rules that would apply to any place where gentlemen gather. You do not discuss money in a manner that could intrude on privacy or embarrass. You do not discuss religion or The War Between the States. You do not discuss a woman who is neither a public figure nor a lady of easy virtue.

We had a "Dining In" when in the Philippines. This is a formal affair, we wore Summer Blues with cummerbunds, paraded the beef and Mr Vice recorded infractions of the rules while Mr President (The ship's XO) assessed fines to cover the cost of the dinner. It was all great fun. One Lieutenant pointed out that an Ensign had violated the rules by spending most of the meal talking about his wife. The Ensign was ordered to stand up and explain himself. He arose and began, "My wife is a Lady of Easy Virtue and I can prove it." Seems that she sent every officer present a Christmas Card and his had arrived late. The XO replied good answer and fined the complaining officer $20. Of course the officer serving as Mr Vice had made no record of the fines issued and everyone just tossed money into the pot to pay for the meal.

803 jorline  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:13:33am

re: #767 Big Steve

It is quite balmy in Houston at the moment.

LMAO at the Weather Channel...hell, when don't you have 20 mph winds in Houston. I lived in Clear Lake and Houston proper from 79-83.

804 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:14:09am

re: #795 Kenneth

Heh. Maybe the media's focusing on the wrong Edwards. Maybe they should be focusing on Liz Edwards for VP. She has always been the stronger of the two.

805 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:14:22am

re: #790 lawhawk

lawhawk .. let the NY times die. It has used its power to bury people before, now let it die the death it had coming.

806 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:14:23am

re: #784 OldLineTexan

You and your monkey board do not frighten the Silky Pony!

/

We gonna shove a banana up his ass.

807 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:14:28am

re: #769 Honorary Yooper

As I recall a number of Mr. Hoekstra's constituents left for work one sunny September morning seven years ago and never came home again.

I think he "gets it".

808 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:14:31am

re: #763 MandyManners
Amen.
Discussion, debate even disagreement - strong disagreement is ok, but there is NO reason to disrespect someone who isn't a troll. Not ever.

And, btw, do you see what you've started with your
*WHACK*s? Seems like all the Lady Lizards are using 'em these days!
And on us male lizards, too! LOL!

809 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:14:40am

re: #792 OldLineTexan

Obama believes in equality. Since the dead can vote in Chicago*, why not everyone else?

*Not that Chicago is alone in this. West Texas dead helped elect LBJ many times.

You should see the activity in the cemetaries in New Orleans! There's a reason we don't bury ours under the ground (aside from the living lower than sea level thing), and we bury them in houses (cities of the dead).

810 JCM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:15:01am

re: #791 pingjockey

Business as usaul along the I-5 corridor I see. Over here on the eastside we're just having the occasional forest/brush fire to deal with. Much easier to fix than liberal asshats.

We have to file environmental impact statements before brush fires. Then a fish mitigation plan for the water used. A clean air act wavier for the smoke, and finally buy carbon credits for the carbon offsets.

Brush fires are too much damn work.
/

811 Dolphin  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:15:10am

re: #617 Ojoe

I just love this cam. It is so beautiful every time you post it.

Here is one for you. Galveston, TX surf. We may be far north of Dolly, but it still churns it up!

812 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:15:14am

re: #750 lawhawk

Confirmed? Edwards, busted with love child and mistress.

/ The best damned investigative journalists on the planet. Sure, the NYT might break a scoop or two... but the National Enquirer is where it's at. /K - MIB.

Well, that would explain why he's pretty much fallen out of the media glare, but curious the rest of the media never bothered to pursue the matter.

HT: kaus at slate

But when he emerged alone from an elevator into the hotel basement he was greeted by several reporters from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

Senior NATIONAL ENQUIRER Reporter Alexander Hitchen asked Edwards why he was visiting Rielle and whether he was ready to confirm that he was the father of her baby.

Shocked to see a reporter, and without saying anything, Edwards ran up the stairs leading from the hotel basement to the lobby. But, spotting a photographer, he doubled back into the basement. As he emerged from the stairwell, reporter Butterfield questioned him about his hookup with Rielle.

Edwards did not answer and then ran into a nearby restroom. He stayed inside for about 15 minutes, refusing to answer questions from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER about what he was doing in the hotel.

Gutless bastard.

813 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:15:21am

re: #797 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Sorry, I had to drop off suddenly...a client walked in without appointment.

Did I miss anything?


Well who's more impoortant ? Us or some paying client?

814 GGMac  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:15:26am

re: #779 OldLineTexan

There can be only One...

*Warning: Graphic Content May Offend Viewers With Messianic Aversion Disorder (MAD)


At your link - if the "rainbow" shot in the photo-stream doesn't give these nutroots pause as to the jeopardy of their very souls, nothing will.

815 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:15:51am

re: #797 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Sorry, I had to drop off suddenly...a client walked in without appointment.

Did I miss anything?

World Peace was declared, Bill Clinton has taken Trappist vows, and Hamas declared Fatah "a great bunch of guys that can date our sisters if they want to."

So nothing, really.

816 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:16:41am

re: #801 JCM


Joe Foss, his CMH and TSA.


Marine Honor Guard and TSA.

The Joe Foss story was extremely disturbing. I was treated better by customs agents in Red China.

817 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:16:55am

re: #772 JCM

Seattle City Clowncil is right on top of those priorites, rising crime, budget shortfalls, lack of police coverage, shitty roads.

Yep, they're right on top of it.

Meanwhile Baghdad Jim McDimwitt has solved the gas price crises.
McDermott Proposes 'Gas Stamps' For Families In Need

Can I get the EPA to check the water up here?

Morning, all!
SNAFU in the Great Northwet, surrounded by loons! At least that simplifies the problem.

What's that military quote about what to do when surrounded by the enemy?

818 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:17:08am
819 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:17:08am

re: #800 lawhawk

What's wrong with the story? Jeez, what's right with that version.

Heck, this little old blogger had more details in his morning coverage in the span of 2 hours than they put in there.

absolutely lawhawk. 16 injured people (one seriously) get turned into a minor skirmish where the purpetrator WAS GOING to do something bad.

Thats not even 1984 type of stuff .. its worse.

820 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:17:49am

re: #810 JCM
Absolutely mad what those people on city councils can do. I'm surprised Seattle isn't a sanctuary city yet. Olympia hasn't put up a statue to St. Pancake, yet. As far as Bagdad Jim goes, I'd like to take all his constitiuents on a little tour of Saddams torture chambers.

821 jorline  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:17:54am

See what I mean...the Weather Channel just had a PSA about swimming while you're drunk. They said it could be dangerous because alcohol can impede your balance, coordination and judgment...Hey WC, No Shit!

822 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:18:05am

re: #806 ibmkeyboard

We gonna shove a banana up his ass.

That sounds like a perfectly reasonable plan to me. I am all for it.

823 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:18:26am

re: #777 WriterMom

Geez...I would get a little suspicious if the screening dude or dudette said - hey, I'l take out that nipple ring for ya.

If you decked that creep, you'd be the one at fault.

I wonder how many perverts are working at TSA. It's the perfect position for a pervert who craves power.

824 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:18:51am

Mandy:
Edwards did not answer and then ran into a nearby restroom. He stayed inside for about 15 minutes, refusing to answer questions from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER about what he was doing in the hotel.

Gutless bastard.

/ he should have explained that he was just lost..
He wandered into the wrong America by accident and was looking for the door to get back to the other one.

825 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:18:53am

re: #817 MandyManners
Attack!

826 JCM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:19:45am

re: #816 OldLineTexan

The Joe Foss story was extremely disturbing. I was treated better by customs agents in Red China.

If I'd been in line behind Gen. Foss, I'd have blown a gasket. I wasn't in long and a long time ago, but the sight of that star and ribbon engenders instant respect. Those jackasses disrespecting the honor and the man would have be too much.

827 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:19:55am

re: #775 ibmkeyboard

.
You combat homelessness by staying in the Beverly Hilton with yo bitch.
If this is true, that hypocritical SOB will be driven out of North Carolina.
On a f#cking rail.


From your lips to God's ears my friend. Wish he'd at least go back to live in the state in which he was born.
Mutt.

828 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:19:59am

re: #774 Buster Bunny

In reference to the SECOND bulldozer incident this month (where 16 people were injured - ONE seriously)

This is the writeup it got in my local page (www.theage.com.au)

I will include it as a whole so that i dont leave anything out.

Now .. can anyone see whats wrong with that lil story .. aside from the facts?

un-freaking-believable.

829 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:20:00am

BBL

830 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:20:03am

This made me laugh:

"This is probably not what you need to see just before going into surgery — vultures loitering outside the hospital window."

Vultures prey on peace of mind

831 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:20:19am

re: #820 pingjockey

Absolutely mad what those people on city councils can do. I'm surprised Seattle isn't a sanctuary city yet. Olympia hasn't put up a statue to St. Pancake, yet. As far as Bagdad Jim goes, I'd like to take all his constitiuents on a little tour of Saddams torture chambers.

If they are gonna put up a statue to Saint Pancake .. i'll be wanting a bottle beside that of Saint Maple of Syrup .. with a dash of Saint Whipped of Cream.

Its just not the same without the full picture.

832 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:20:27am
833 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:20:33am

re: #821 jorline

See what I mean...the Weather Channel just had a PSA about swimming while you're drunk. They said it could be dangerous because alcohol can impede your balance, coordination and judgment...Hey WC, No Shit!

It's sad when there are so many idjits that think a hurricane is a great excuse for a shoreline drunkfest that our lowest common denominator nanny state actually has to remind them to not kill themselves.

834 JCM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:20:43am

re: #817 MandyManners

What's that military quote about what to do when surrounded by the enemy?

Gen. Chesty Puller (USMC)
"We're surrounded, that simplifies the problem!"

835 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:21:10am

re: #791 pingjockey

Business as usaul along the I-5 corridor I see. Over here on the eastside we're just having the occasional forest/brush fire to deal with. Much easier to fix than liberal asshats.

I grew to hate the 520/I-5 interchange so badly that I learned how to get off of 520 and make my way to downtown via Capitol Hill.

836 Dolphin  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:21:18am

re: #760 jorline

Glad to here you are doing ok. This little storm is really needed in your neck of the woods. We could sure use some of the overflow rain here too, so if you start to get to much, please send it north - 'k?

837 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:21:20am

re: #802 lifeofthemind

The rules of the officer's wardroom are the rules that would apply to any place where gentlemen gather. You do not discuss money in a manner that could intrude on privacy or embarrass. You do not discuss religion or The War Between the States. You do not discuss a woman who is neither a public figure nor a lady of easy virtue.

OK, that's what I remember - I forgot the part about the wardroom. Thanks for the insight!

838 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:21:27am

re: #812 MandyManners

Gutless bastard.


*Wiping tears from eyes*
But he was only seeking to bond with his child. It is so important that fathers do this with their offspring. How can you Rethuglicans be so heartless?

/ yup

839 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:21:36am

re: #812 MandyManners

Edwards did not answer and then ran into a nearby restroom. He stayed inside for about 15 minutes, refusing to answer questions from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER about what he was doing in the hotel.


Any politician that stays in the restroom for 15 mins. has to be a silken pony.

840 JCM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:21:39am

re: #820 pingjockey

Absolutely mad what those people on city councils can do. I'm surprised Seattle isn't a sanctuary city yet. Olympia hasn't put up a statue to St. Pancake, yet. As far as Bagdad Jim goes, I'd like to take all his constitiuents on a little tour of Saddams torture chambers.

It not officially a sanctuary city but, cops are forbidden from asking immigration status.

841 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:22:07am

re: #782 ec marm "I can't help defending someone who is taking knives in the back."
That's one of the reasons you are so well liked and respected out here, EC.

842 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:22:20am

re: #799 OldLineTexan

Just hang on to me and FBV. Obama's bus couldn't get over the two of us.

/

I feel safer already!

843 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:22:21am

Barack Obama claims neither he nor anybody else anticipated the Sunni uprising against al Qaeda in Iraq, which he credits for the real success (and not the Surge which didn't work) so he'd oppose the surge if given a chance to weigh in on it again.

Nobody anticipated it? Oh really?

George Bush, in his speech to the nation, on January 10th, 2007, outlining the purpose of the surge, said this:

Our military forces in Anbar are killing and capturing al Qaeda leaders, and they are protecting the local population. Recently, local tribal leaders have begun to show their willingness to take on al Qaeda. And as a result, our commanders believe we have an opportunity to deal a serious blow to the terrorists. So I have given orders to increase American forces in Anbar Province by 4,000 troops. These troops will work with Iraqi and tribal forces to keep up the pressure on the terrorists. America's men and women in uniform took away al Qaeda's safe haven in Afghanistan -- and we will not allow them to re-establish it in Iraq.

To be fair, Obama also credits Mookie al-Sadr & the Iranians. But not the US troops, nor General Petraeus and certainly not George Bush.

844 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:22:25am

HAHHAHAHA

That was funny...Mandy-did you watch?

845 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:22:55am

re: #839 ibmkeyboard

You insensitive bastard! He was DOING HIS HAIR.

/

846 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:22:55am

re: #801 JCM


Joe Foss, his CMH and TSA.


Marine Honor Guard and TSA.

Very small-minded people.

847 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:23:00am

re: #839 ibmkeyboard

Any politician that stays in the restroom for 15 mins. has to be a silken pony.

It was NOT a wide stance, and I have restless leg syndrome!

848 Big Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:23:01am

Barack Obama - Speach to Veterans, Kansas City, August, 2007...

All of our top military commanders recognize that there is no military solution in Iraq. And no matter how brilliantly and bravely our troops and their commanders perform, they cannot and should not bear the responsibility of resolving grievances at the heart of Iraq's civil war. No military surge can succeed without political reconciliation and a surge of diplomacy in Iraq and the region. Iraq's leaders are not reconciling. They are not achieving political benchmarks. The only thing they seem to have agreed on is to take a vacation.

Wonder if he had to explain the vacation remark to his hosts in Iraq?

849 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:23:06am
850 christheprofessor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:23:59am

re: #820 pingjockey

Absolutely mad what those people on city councils can do. I'm surprised Seattle isn't a sanctuary city yet. Olympia hasn't put up a statue to St. Pancake, yet. As far as Bagdad Jim goes, I'd like to take all his constitiuents on a little tour of Saddams torture chambers.

Speaking of dumbass city councils, did you see this gem wrought by the Dallas County commissioners?

851 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:24:09am

re: #808 realwest

Amen.
Discussion, debate even disagreement - strong disagreement is ok, but there is NO reason to disrespect someone who isn't a troll. Not ever.

And, btw, do you see what you've started with your
*WHACK*s? Seems like all the Lady Lizards are using 'em these days!
And on us male lizards, too! LOL!

What? My lil' ol' clue-by-four?

852 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:24:26am
853 opnion  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:24:31am

re: #816 OldLineTexan

The Joe Foss story was extremely disturbing. I was treated better by customs agents in Red China.

Good morning Lizards, Sup dawgs?
There is a hoax being perpertrated at the airport. Swarthy men of Middle Eastern background are given VIP treatment.
The TSA however wants to hassle the blonde woman traveling with small children & toss your granny's meds & support hose.

854 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:24:32am

re: #850 christheprofessor

Speaking of dumbass city councils, did you see this gem wrought by the Dallas County commissioners?

Yes. We are awash in ignorance.

855 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:24:56am

re: #845 WriterMom

You insensitive bastard! He was DOING HIS HAIR.

/

Takes Edwards 15 minutes to start to get READY to do his hair! The actual process takes hours !

856 JCM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:25:03am

re: #846 MandyManners

Very small-minded people.

The Foss incident I chalk up to unexcuseable ignorance.

The Honor Guard thing was a jackass kid on a power trip over men in uniform.

857 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:25:11am

re: #835 MandyManners
I miss that intersection religiously. But since the Seahwaks and Mariners put both stadiums at the end of I-90 it is relatively easy to get there from this side of the cascades. Go over Blewett Pass, get on I-90 and head west until the freeway stops!

858 Dolphin  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:25:45am

re: #833 OldLineTexan

Survival of the fittest. Weeds out those idjits. LOL.

859 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:26:21am

re: #837 CIA Reject
That is the weird room. Not the goat locker, or the 1st class lounge, heh.

860 turn  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:26:46am

Fuck Obama

/just thought I would start my day off right

scream for help in dreams ....

The absolutely scariest dream you can have is dreaming you are awake and can't move. Paralyzed! Happened to me several times. After the first time you learn to subconsciously just go with the flow and eventually you wake up.

861 jorline  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:26:54am

re: #836 Dolphin

Glad to here you are doing ok. This little storm is really needed in your neck of the woods. We could sure use some of the overflow rain here too, so if you start to get to much, please send it north - 'k?

RW said that you were asking earlier...thanks. Just a lot of rain, wind and now tornadoes. The National Weather Service just issued a tornado warning, spotted a tornado 10 miles for the restaurant and 5 miles form the house...looks like a busy day...will keep in touch.

Unfortunately it looks like the depression will move due west...are you in Dallas?

862 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:27:00am

re: #798 JustMyView
No, I haven't found out cause my oncologist is on vacation this week - damn it.
OTOH, my old oncologist in NYC said something about my condition needed to be watched but was not yet in the danger zone - I don't have any effin' idea of what he meant, but it sounded good!
Thanks for asking!

863 opnion  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:27:02am

re: #845 WriterMom

You insensitive bastard! He was DOING HIS HAIR.

/

What is the story?

864 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:27:03am

re: #853 opnion

Good morning Lizards, Sup dawgs?
There is a hoax being perpertrated at the airport. Swarthy men of Middle Eastern background are given VIP treatment.
The TSA however wants to hassle the blonde woman traveling with small children & toss your granny's meds & support hose.

The FIRST person I ever saw "re-checked for security purposes" at the GATE was a 80-ish woman with a walker and her equally elderly husband. Yes, they practically strip-searched Great-Grandma while I watched with all the other emasculated but perfectly healthy males, swarthy and pale.

If I were a single man I would have spent the night (at least) in jail.

865 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:27:09am

re: #841 realwest
Aw shucks. Did you happen to see yesterday where someone was compiling a list of most prolific posters? You were the "King of Comments&trade"

866 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:27:26am

Obama does Palestine....
Yahoo pic

867 Buster Bunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:27:27am

re: #855 sattv4u2

Takes Edwards 15 minutes to start to get READY to do his hair! The actual process takes hours !

I respect John Edwards for getting steamrolled out of the election and taking it like a man. He was the most eligible unlikeable Democrat there was in the race to the Whitehouse.

868 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:27:32am

re: #832 ploome hineni

show Mandy

lol

*swoon*

869 JCM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:27:50am

re: #850 christheprofessor

Speaking of dumbass city councils, did you see this gem wrought by the Dallas County commissioners?

Priceless!

At least they weren't niggardly with the picnic supplies.

You remember LA and master and slave.

870 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:28:21am

re: #866 Killgore Trout

Obama does Palestine....
Yahoo pic

Well, he's really prepping to "do" Israel...

871 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:28:33am

re: #866 Killgore Trout

Fuck Obama, Palestinian terrorists and all their enablers around the world and may Yasser Arafat continue to rot in hell.

872 jorline  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:28:44am

re: #861 jorline

RW said that you were asking earlier...thanks. Just a lot of rain, wind and now tornadoes. The National Weather Service just issued a tornado warning, spotted a tornado 10 miles for from the restaurant and 5 miles form from the house...looks like a busy day...will keep in touch.

Unfortunately it looks like the depression will move due west...are you in Dallas?

sorry pimf

873 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:28:44am

re: #846 MandyManners
There would've been a riot had the right sort of vets been there. Po'd folks like me! Then again TSA doesn't pay squat and won't hire former military for screeners. So you get some real characters doing security(spit).

874 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:28:47am

In the restroom fixing his hair

LOL

/couldn't find the blow dryer in the dark.

875 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:28:52am

re: #862 realwest

No, I haven't found out cause my oncologist is on vacation this week - damn it.
OTOH, my old oncologist in NYC said something about my condition needed to be watched but was not yet in the danger zone - I don't have any effin' idea of what he meant, but it sounded good!
Thanks for asking!

Good luck with it!

876 opnion  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:28:54am

re: #862 realwest

No, I haven't found out cause my oncologist is on vacation this week - damn it.
OTOH, my old oncologist in NYC said something about my condition needed to be watched but was not yet in the danger zone - I don't have any effin' idea of what he meant, but it sounded good!
Thanks for asking!


Hi Real, that sounds like really good news.

877 Dolphin  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:29:32am

re: #861 jorline

North Houston.

878 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:29:38am

re: #838 ec marm

*Wiping tears from eyes*
But he was only seeking to bond with his child. It is so important that fathers do this with their offspring. How can you Rethuglicans be so heartless?

/ yup

Was he seeing this woman while his wife was undergoing treatment?

879 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:29:52am

re: #874 ibmkeyboard

In the restroom fixing his hair

LOL

/couldn't find the blow dryer in the dark.

Bill Clinton could give him lessons. He never has trouble with that.