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Another Soon-To-Be-Nuanced Statement from Obama

Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:13:30 pm PDT

John at Power Line notices another in a seemingly endless series of gaffes from the Naive Messiah: The Fine Line Between Pandering and Lying.

Obama continued:

Now, in terms of knowing my commitments, you don’t have to just look at my words, you can look at my deeds. Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee, a bill to call for divestment from Iran, as a way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don’t obtain a nuclear weapon.
But Obama is not a member of the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee. Obama just made that up so he could count the committee’s action as one of “my deeds.”

UPDATE at 7/23/08 2:32:05 pm:

And here’s the video clip:

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1 noshariaincanada  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:13:53pm

all hail the Obamassaiah

2 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:14:34pm

Ich Bin Ein Beginner.

3 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:14:37pm

That's not a gaffe.

That's a lie.

4 noshariaincanada  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:14:49pm

CD playing: "Dirty Deeds, Done Dirt Cheap"

5 kiwiviv  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:15:31pm

What an idiot!

6 fatbert  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:15:35pm

the truth is relative

/removes foil beanie

7 irongrampa  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:15:37pm

Seems he's moved from "gaffe" to outright lies.

8 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:16:16pm

Well maybe he is not on the committee but he knows it exists. Yeah, that's the ticket.

9 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:16:25pm

Obama is on all committees, introduced all legislation (that passed), voted for everything (twice - once for, and then against the next day)
/do I need to

10 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:16:30pm

Obama's committee memberships, according to Obama's own website.

Oopsie.

11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:16:40pm

Hey, He's a senator. Its a Senate committee. Whats the problem?

/

12 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:16:56pm

Wow. If the media were paying attention, BHO would already be an "also ran".

13 Shug  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:16:59pm

When asked to take the oath of office of President he will proudly proclaim for all to hear : PRESENT !

14 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:17:22pm

Will the MSM call him on it?

Will they leave it to the riff raff of the blogosphere?

How many do there need to be until they do call him on it?

My call is that this gets no further than the Grapevine.

15 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:17:32pm

Hey, he's only been at work 143 days, he can't always remember what committees he's signed up for!

/must I?

16 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:17:40pm

Wasn't he also one of the original signatories to the Declaration of Independence? You'd think he'd make a bigger deal out of it.

17 noshariaincanada  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:17:58pm

Obama: "I imagined being a member of the Senate Banking Committee, and that should be good enough for you proles."

18 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:17:59pm

re: #9 Kosh's Shadow

gotta cover the bases!

19 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:18:21pm
which is my committee

Interesting.

20 Shug  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:18:47pm

re: #15 Dar ul Harb

Hey, he's only been at work 143 days, he can't always remember what committees he's signed up for!

/must I?


When you don't show up to vote and do your job , you can't be expected to remember what you didn't show up for


/

21 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:18:47pm

Yesterday I wrote here (in some context) that Obama "isn't stupid". Now I know what crow tastes like.

22 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:18:50pm

That is not the Senate Committee I knew.

/you knew someone was going to do it.

// even worse, it's the truth.

23 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:18:53pm

re: #12 Iron Fist

I sure hope talk radio's up on this!

I hope the entire blogosphere is paying attention!

OK, at least the dextrosphere. There's no way the sinistrosphere will in any way note this flat out lie.

24 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:19:04pm

re: #10 Occasional Reader

Obama's committee memberships, according to Obama's own website.

Oopsie.

Well, there is that.

This is not the Senate website I knew.

25 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:19:12pm

Senator Obama went on to note: "That's where I saw the leprechaun! He told me to burn things."

26 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:19:22pm

re: #16 Occasional Reader

Wasn't he also one of the original signatories to the Declaration of Independence? You'd think he'd make a bigger deal out of it.

No No, you got it all wrong. His parents met at the signing of the Declaration of Independence right before they march into Selma?

27 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:19:24pm

re: #19 Ben Hur

so the guy owns a commitee.big whoop,wanna make somethin'out of it?

28 maddogg  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:19:47pm

Too stoopid to even tell a lie correctly. A good liar at least tells lies that are difficult to check. Most politicians lie, but the sin is telling lies a 6 year old can debunk.

29 BingoBunny  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:20:05pm

he clearly said WE.. meaning all his loyal Demorat followers

/any media, except the right wing blogs

30 Cygnus  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:20:20pm

BHO is going to be gaffed by his gaffes.
*Sitting back in chair with munchies and glass of Shiraz*

31 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:20:37pm

re: #21 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He's not stupid. He told a lie, and is betting that no one will call him on it.

This was a planned statement - you can tell, there were no "ers", "ahs" or "ums."

32 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:20:49pm
33 Sifty  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:21:19pm

This idiot would be funny if he wasn't so close to being the next President of my country.

34 Shug  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:21:19pm

re: #32 taxfreekiller

"We" the committee of "One".

Just follow the One, all will be OK.


One

We are one.

One is the beginning.

Are you one herbert?

35 jcm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:21:22pm

He's the President of the 57 State for the next 10 years!
Of course it's his committee.

Yeesh people get a clue!
///

36 noshariaincanada  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:21:27pm

It scares the me so much that so many people are so blind that they believe in this guy.

Hopefully the reality check will hit in a big way before Nov 4th.

37 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:22:09pm

re: #32 taxfreekiller

Jet Li's The One, or *shudder* Keanu Reeves' The One?

38 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:22:32pm

Video of Obama's False Claim that Senate Banking Committee is "his committee"

Amazing.

39 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:23:12pm

re: #32 taxfreekiller

"We" the committee of "One".

Just follow the One, all will be OK.

One Barack to rule them all, one Barack to find them
One Barack to bring them all, and one Barack to bind them
In the land of Washington, where all the politicians lie.

40 84fiero  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:23:29pm

re: #2 Ben Hur

Ich Bin Ein Beginner.


LOL... that's classic

41 faraway  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:23:52pm

Lord Obama is the Overlord over all the planet and the oceans, including any Senate committees.

42 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:24:03pm

re: #32 taxfreekiller

"We" the committee of "One".

Just follow the One, all will be OK.

Or I could quote Firesign Theatre:
--And One is nothing.

43 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:24:04pm

Jayzuz...so whens Obama going to declare himself President and, with lots of media gushing, declare the elections unnecessary and out-dated? To expensive - money which could be better spent on pork.

44 Shug  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:24:06pm

re: #2 Ben Hur

Ich Bin Ein Beginner Bullshitter.

45 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:24:29pm

Barack Obama: Panderer in Chief

46 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:24:31pm

re: #31 Dianna

He's not stupid. He told a lie

False choice! Both are true.

He's stupid for thinking that he won't be caught in this lie. If he doesn't realize that everything he says will be parsed with a fine-tooth comb, that's stupid.

47 zipity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:24:31pm

How darest ye question The One? Prepare to be smitten, unbeliever! Ye shall be cast down into the pit of fire, otherwise known as "under the bus".......

48 Sifty  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:24:44pm

re: #38 sparrowlake

He meant mine in the collective-community-global-workers-of-the-world-u nited-against-the-man way.

49 beens21  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:24:44pm

the way this guy intentionally lies on matters that can be fact checked in seconds is a sign of some disorder.I still think the fact he was abandoned at age 2 by his father and at age 10 by his mother has left him with some issues.

50 obscured by clouds  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:25:36pm

Charles:

But Obama is not a member of the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee. Obama just made that up so he could count the committee’s action as one of “my deeds.”

And his "flock" couldn't care less. Charisma (or the illusion thereof), not truth, experience, or anything else, matters to those who are so intellectually weak that they faint when he talks or get tingly legs. They don't care what he says. They care about how he makes them feel. Reality is a nuisance to these people, a nuisance they think they can merely walk away from.

Having said that, Obama is not a very smart man, imo. Whatever he knows, he's been told. I don't think he's well read or otherwise knowledgeable about the world - and he proves me right almost every time he opens his mouth.

51 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:25:37pm

re: #43 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Jayzuz...so whens Obama going to declare himself President and, with lots of media gushing, declare the elections unnecessary and out-dated? To expensive - money which could be better spent on pork.

He has already decleared himself Commander in Chief.

52 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:25:38pm

re: #2 Ben Hur

Ich Bin Ein Beginner.

How about "Ich Bin Ein Ligner"?

53 abolitionist  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:25:46pm

I smell an update coming.

54 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:26:21pm

re: #40 84fiero

LOL... that's classic

I'm still ROFLMAO...
Ben Hur #2 needs many more + dings.

55 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:26:26pm
56 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:26:33pm

Has Obama actually sponsored a single piece of legislation? Even if it died in committee?

57 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:27:06pm

Maybe this is another example of why Obama's extemporaneous thoughts are so full of pauses, "uhs", and other assorted verbal junk. He seems to have a tad bit of trouble separating reality from fantasy. Not a problem if he was running for tax collector, but a real concern to me that someone so close to the nuclear football could have such an issue.

58 Plumed Basilisk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:27:11pm

.... and then his pants burst into flames. (my dream)

59 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:27:15pm
which is my committee

"Just Words"

60 ROPMA  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:28:22pm

ALL your committees are belong to us!

61 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:28:23pm

re: #46 Occasional Reader

He will blithely say he was misunderstood - he wasn't - and expect the press to cover it over.

I do not believe he's stupid. I'm furious. Obama's spitting in our faces.

62 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:28:24pm

re: #38 sparrowlake

Video of Obama's False Claim that Senate Banking Committee is "his committee"

Amazing.

Ugh.

You think your guys are bad, those are Israeli politicians behind him acting like they are standing there all giddy.

The one on the right is the mayor of Sderot, who believe me, still can't believe that people know who he is.

63 turn  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:28:34pm

That's nothing, wait until he gets back to the US and describes how he had to duck for cover when he landed in Iraq under intense sniper fire. Oh wait, that might have been another dem contender ...

I sure wish Hilary was the presumptive nominee.

64 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:29:03pm

re: #58 Plumed Basilisk

.... and then his pants burst into flames. (my dream)

If that happened, there wouldn't be an un-charred pair of pants within 100 miles of Washington, DC.

65 skywagondriver  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:29:15pm

This is getting hard to keep track of. And my liberal friends/family seem mystified at the possibility that there are ANY Obama gaffes. Is there some comprehensive listing on the web that we can reference?

Much obliged.

66 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:30:11pm

He meant "my committee" like the rappers mean "my n*".

They're his posse, his boyz.

67 faraway  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:30:25pm

I believe he sits around at night with the Obamanatrix thinking up stupid things to say to see what those fools will believe next. The joke is on us.

68 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:30:30pm

re: #31 Dianna

He's not stupid. He told a lie, and is betting that no one will call him on it.

This was a planned statement - you can tell, there were no "ers", "ahs" or "ums."

See sparrowlake's #38. There were a couple of uhs in there.

/which, of course, DOES tend to indicate that he's ...

... oh, never mind

69 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:31:05pm

re: #54 Dar ul Harb

I'm still ROFLMAO...
Ben Hur #2 needs many more + dings.


When it hits 10, I'll admit that it's stolen.

70 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:31:08pm
71 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:31:22pm
72 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:31:25pm

re: #57 ec marm

Not a problem if he was running for tax collector

Eeep! I'm not so sure!

I have this image of my tax bill dancing before my eyes!

73 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:31:31pm
74 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:31:46pm

re: #62 Ben Hur


Wuzzzup with the banner "Obama: Jerusalem will be the Capitol of Israel".

um news flash Obummer, Jerusalem IS the Capitol of Israel.

75 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:31:49pm

re: #69 Ben Hur

When it hits 10, I'll admit that it's stolen.

I guess that's what they call "situational ethics".

76 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:31:52pm
77 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:31:59pm

re: #60 ROPMA

ALL your committees are belong to us!

And in the Obama administration, there will only be one committee ...the Central Committee.

78 USBeast  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:32:04pm

Barking Insane Obama's motto: "All for one and I'm the one."

79 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:32:36pm
80 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:32:39pm

re: #75 Occasional Reader

I guess that's what they call "situational ethics".

I wouldn't dare harsh on somebody else's gig.

81 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:32:41pm
82 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:33:02pm

re: #69 Ben Hur

When it hits 10, I'll admit that it's stolen.


I just pinged you up to 11. Fess up.

83 jemima  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:33:06pm

#76
You're not listening to me closely enough.

84 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:33:13pm

re: #28 maddogg

Too stoopid to even tell a lie correctly. A good liar at least tells lies that are difficult to check. Most politicians lie, but the sin is telling lies a 6 year old can debunk.

"dogg" -

The real SIN is actually being caught at it. The Internet makes it much easier. Sen. Obama might just have to open a Laundromat - ON SPIN CYCLE - 24/7/365or6.

-S-

85 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:33:30pm

re: #79 cutestguy

With a Five Year Plan?

An eight-to-ten year plan, Comrade. Da?

86 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:33:30pm

re: #56 Dianna

Has Obama actually sponsored a single piece of legislation? Even if it died in committee?

Curse you and your racist expectations!

87 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:33:36pm

he is so confident of his status w/ the msm, he is lying outright because he thinks they won't question what he says.
he's coming unglued.

88 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:33:36pm
89 maddogg  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:33:39pm

Obama misspoke, its a bad habit, like attending racist Churches, and associating with domestic terrorists.

90 shibumi  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:33:42pm

re: #50 obscured by clouds

And his "flock" couldn't care less. Charisma (or the illusion thereof), not truth, experience, or anything else, matters to those who are so intellectually weak that they faint when he talks or get tingly legs. They don't care what he says. They care about how he makes them feel. Reality is a nuisance to these people, a nuisance they think they can merely walk away from.

Having said that, Obama is not a very smart man, imo. Whatever he knows, he's been told. I don't think he's well read or otherwise knowledgeable about the world - and he proves me right almost every time he opens his mouth.

So true.

Expect his "disciples" to claim that there were a lot of back door deals going on regarding this legislation, and that Obama was entirely in the right in his assertion- without his "unofficial" help, the bill could not have passed. Therefore, the Messiah is once again found to be Infallible and the Perfect Savior of our horrible, horrible nation.

Now a question to those lizards who have knowledge of this sort of thing: is the Messiah acting like a someone with a (cough) substance abuse problem? It seems he's constantly lying, stretching the truth, misspeaking, doesn't understand the simplest facts about our country, etc. I believe he did cop to drug use in one of his books, could that explain his behavior? Or is he just an uncontrolled narcissist?

Enquiring minds want to know.

91 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:34:25pm
92 ScottG  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:34:31pm

Oh ye of little faith! Don't you remember that from lies the size of a mustard seed a huge lying apparatus grows?

Lies you can count on. Lies you can trust. Lies you can believe in.

You can feel safe trusting in Obama

er, let me clarify:

If being safe is your goal, trust in Obama

er, wait, I mean:

With the Obamessiah, all things are possible.

Yeah, that's it.

Now you racists just shut up and vote for him.

93 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:34:39pm

re: #75 Occasional Reader

I guess that's what they call "situational ethics".

It's what you call another statement by the Postmodern Turtle™.

94 wvobiwan  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:34:40pm

Somebody put out B. Hussein's pants, they're on fire! By this time they should be putting out as much heat as the sun...

B. Hussein is entirely a creation of his Dem handlers, turn him sideways and he disappears completely. Let's recap: B. Hussein is a liar, a racist supporter, a terrorist supporter (foreign AND domestic), a would-be nuclear dictator supporter, he has no practical experience, he hates the military and American victory, he doesn't understand foreign relations, he's prepared to sell out all of our historic allies, he has dealings with several known influence peddlers, and accepts huge amounts of money from socialists. That's all I can remember at this point, please help me out...

Anyone who supports Ass Clown Obama has to have a limited intelligence or ulterior (read, not in the best interest of the citizenry as a whole) motive.

95 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:34:42pm

"I am here to assure our friends in Israel that we stand with you........because I said so..............and you can trust me..................coz I tells da truth...........ooooooooo yay"

96 Semper Gumbi  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:34:56pm

re: #23 Dianna

I sure hope talk radio's up on this!

I hope the entire blogosphere is paying attention!

OK, at least the dextrosphere. There's no way the sinistrosphere will in any way note this flat out lie.

Oh, it is all over the Right blogosphere. I've seen it at atleast half a dozen sites just in the last two hours.

97 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:35:04pm

re: #90 shibumi

I know all about drug problems.......I can never find them.

98 WinterCat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:35:04pm

For the MSM this will be water under the dam in less than 5 minutes. He's tired, don't ja know, from his dizzying world tour and stuff.

99 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:35:07pm

re: #74 WrathofG-d

Wuzzzup with the banner "Obama: Jerusalem will be the Capitol of Israel".

um news flash Obummer, Jerusalem IS the Capitol of Israel.

Had a self proclaimed "political junkie" (Joo mind yoo) and a supporter of Baruch, ask me, "But didn't you hear his speech about an undivided J-m at AIPAC?"

I answered, "How can you be a political junkie and NOT know that his advisors reversed the position 5 minutes later?"

"Really?"

"Yes."

Silence.

100 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:35:10pm
101 jemima  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:35:13pm

8 years, 10 years, life--whatever it takes.

(following in the footsteps of a man he greatly admires, Hugo Chachavez)

102 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:35:34pm

re: #2 Ben Hur

Ich Bin Ein Beginner.


The new Messiah! 15 updings!

103 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:36:07pm
104 faraway  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:36:32pm

You're it.

105 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:36:37pm

re: #2 Ben Hur

Ich Bin Ein Beginner.

LOL, that never gets old.

106 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:36:42pm

re: #10 Occasional Reader

Heh.

107 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:36:45pm

re: #99 Ben Hur

its actually worse than that because he didn't only "reverse" but said something that sounded like he wanted to go back to where it was controlled 100% by Arabs, or was under a U.N mandate.

108 LEGION  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:36:49pm

This is how hillary acted when she lied about being shot at -at the Serbian airport arrival- she counted on the msm not reporting her lie. The fifth column must be dismantled! demorats must be defeated!

109 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:36:56pm

Ahh, I, er, umm, ahh... E-I-E-I-O, umm

110 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:37:02pm

I hate to toot my own horn but I wrote up something today about why Obama will not be POTUS. It can be found in the spinoff links and on Lawhawk's blog.

111 dingleB  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:37:11pm

Ich Bin Ein Intimdusche

/=douche bag

112 shibumi  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:37:25pm

re: #65 skywagondriver

This is getting hard to keep track of. And my liberal friends/family seem mystified at the possibility that there are ANY Obama gaffes. Is there some comprehensive listing on the web that we can reference?

Much obliged.

This one tracks some of his older lies:
Barack Obama's Lies

113 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:37:34pm

This isn't a gaffe. It's an outright f---ing fabrication.

Why can't the slobbering network types call him on this?

114 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:37:50pm

re: #90 shibumi

No clue on the ending questions.

115 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:38:34pm
116 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:39:03pm
117 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:39:07pm

re: #96 Semper Gumbi

Good!

118 ScottG  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:39:08pm

re: #65 skywagondriver

This is getting hard to keep track of. And my liberal friends/family seem mystified at the possibility that there are ANY Obama gaffes. Is there some comprehensive listing on the web that we can reference?

Much obliged.

Sure, just check the websites for ABC, CBS, CNN, and NBC. They're sure to have that!

/unnecessary?

119 LEGION  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:39:34pm

re: #115 buzzsawmonkey

Good one- that deserves a ding. ha haaa

120 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:39:56pm

Can someone please name for me any of Barack Obama's accomplishments?

/...writing two books about yourself doesn't count.

121 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:40:13pm

re: #110 chicagodudewhotrades

I hate to toot my own horn but I wrote up something today about why Obama will not be POTUS. It can be found in the spinoff links and on Lawhawk's blog.

Thats is just begging for some reparté but I will refrain........maybe

122 LSD  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:40:41pm

F-ing Lying Sack Of Doggy-Poo

123 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:40:43pm

re: #115 buzzsawmonkey

Banking on the adulation of a supine media and an even more supine electorate.

And yet his mouth is writing checks that his ass can't cash.

124 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:41:23pm

re: #120 Ringo the Gringo

Can someone please name for me any of Barack Obama's accomplishments?

/...writing two books about yourself doesn't count.

I'll get the ball rolling:

1. Designed innovative new Presidential seal

125 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:41:43pm

When was the last time this asshole was even in DC to vote on anything?

126 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:41:48pm

re: #123 Occasional Reader

And yet his mouth is writing checks that his ass can't cash.

His reality check continues to bounce.

127 kynna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:42:07pm

To the Obamanites this is not a lie. To them George Bush using intelligence that was later found to be inaccurate is a lie and an impeachable offense. See the difference?

If you don't you're a racist.

128 parisparamus  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:42:21pm

Ich bein ein FRIGGIN LIAR.

129 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:42:24pm
130 A Kiwi Infidel  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:42:42pm

re: #113 JammieWearingFool

This isn't a gaffe. It's an outright f---ing fabrication.

Why can't the slobbering network types call him on this?

Perhaps he is seeing just how far he can push the envelope.

131 LEGION  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:43:23pm

re: #120 Ringo the Gringo

He got someone (George Soros?) to back this Manchurian candidate?
Right place at right time?
With this bozo's credentials, if he was not bi-racial (he is NOT black), he would have left- (been dumped) - the race faster than Joe Biden or Chris Dodd.

132 jcm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:43:54pm

re: #125 JammieWearingFool

When was the last time this asshole was even in DC to vote on anything?

He's waiting to triumphantly enter DC, the Civilian National Security Force will march by the Washington Monument during the parade.

133 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:44:13pm

re: #129 cutestguy

Thats a great line!

I'm stealing that one too. ;-)

134 Josephine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:44:13pm

OT re. Charles's "Now Playing":

Lucinda Williams, "Car Wheels on a Gravel Road".

I love that album!

"You took my jooooooy, I want it back!"

Gotta pop it in the CD player right now!

135 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:44:41pm

re: #121 A Kiwi Infidel


Lol. Okay, you got me on that. I did not use the best choice of words.


Wow, I was able to admit that I made a mistake. No wonder I lean GOP. I could never be a dem. They never make mistakes.

136 Semper Gumbi  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:44:52pm

re: #125 JammieWearingFool

When was the last time this asshole was even in DC to vote on anything?

He just recently voted FOR FISA, much to the chagrine of the Koslings, and after declaring he would NOT support the Bill.

137 opnion  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:45:27pm

It does not matter that his statement is not true. This is his truth.
You have your truth & he has his. There is not just one truth, you racist crackers. Now can we move on?

138 somaking  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:45:54pm

Imagine if McCain were to lie like that! Unbelievable.

Is this "change" ?!?

139 Sounder  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:46:13pm

Change! (except for fibbing)

140 ec marm  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:46:37pm

re: #125 JammieWearingFool

When was the last time this asshole was even in DC to vote on anything?


Somebody here is keeping track of his days in the Senate. IIRC, 143 is the last number I saw. Not even enough time to be illegible to attend a kindergarten graduation ceremony.

/ hi OR!

141 ROPMA  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:46:42pm

re: #116 taxfreekiller

What you see is the death star aka "Democratic Party" in its final death pulse , dark from hate of
the country it wishes defeated and destroyed, it
has but little chance from its final implosion, give this O some credit for bringing it all to its last moment.

"You go O" just keep on doing it.

He needs to implode AFTER the nomination.

142 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:47:26pm

I'm reminded of a little exercise that used to be held during deer camp.

Now, when you get a group of gun-toting redneck yokels together for more than a few hours they tend to get bored. I mean, after they get through lynching all the available minorities, molesting any wimmins present, and going through the likker like Sherman through Georgia time sorta drags.

Thus, The Liars Contest. Some of the more gently nurtured among us probably haven't heard of it. Pretty simple. Each contestant tells the biggest lie he can think of, and the best lie wins. A safe and pleasant way to while away the hours till shooting light.

Had to be discontinued eventually. Seems like someone came up with the ultimate lie, the falsehood so large that the mind of mortal man will never surpass, hell, never equal it.

Simple, really. Once the next-to-last contestant finishes his yarn, the soon-to-be-declared winner leans forward, spits carefully between his boots, and says

"I believe every single word you just said."

Brother Obama could have been Grand Master had he wished.

143 LEGION  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:48:56pm

re: #137 opnion

Mmmmm crackers- is it dinner time? So per the dingbats on the view- they can use the N word but we can't. So I say- they can't use the 'c'racker word-- Word police- pay attention! Crybaby Liz Hasslebeck was right- we all use or don't use those words- no exceptions. We all should speak the same language- English. While we can. English- a minority language in the US in ten years. Thanx kennedy!

144 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:49:50pm

Ok... who hacked his teleprompter? come on... fess up...

145 LEGION  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:50:34pm

re: #139 Sounder

That was Iranian President Amadijuad's (yabba dabba doo)- campaign slogan- change- that worked out real well ehh?

146 dahozho  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:51:28pm

A legend in his own mind. Can he really believe all this stuff he imagines about himself?

"You're a meg-a-lo-maniac, you're a meg-a-lo-maniac!" chant from The Goodies

147 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:52:36pm

re: #49 beens21

the way this guy intentionally lies on matters that can be fact checked in seconds is a sign of some disorder.I still think the fact he was abandoned at age 2 by his father and at age 10 by his mother has left him with some issues.

i agree. the intentional lying is getting into the realm self sabotage.
at some point even the msm is going to have to report it.
he is not going to be able to uh uh his way out of all these gaffs and lies.

148 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:52:37pm

re: #132 jcm

He's waiting to triumphantly enter DC, the Civilian National Security Force will march by the Washington Monument during the parade.

Obama campaign's draft sketches of planned Inauguration Day

149 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:53:18pm

re: #126 Dar ul Harb

His reality check continues to bounce.

Please tell me that isn't original, so I won't have to hate you!

150 LeonidasofSparta  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:54:19pm

"that's not the Senate Banking Committee I knew...."

"that's just distractions from my main point, here, uh, uhmm, uh, that I uh, uhmm uh, am being absolutely clear-- change and hope is what America wants and Israel is the best friend of Israel."

Hell's bells! The guy is off his meds again.

151 Semper Gumbi  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:55:03pm

re: #138 somaking

Imagine if McCain were to lie like that! Unbelievable.

Is this "change" ?!?


Look at all the griping amongst the left and PMSNBC and CNN because Mr. McCain may have got the time of the Anbar Awakening wrong in context with the Surge. Just one more example of the MSM being in the tank for Mr. Obama.

152 Sounder  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:55:46pm

re: #145 LEGION

That was Iranian President Amadijuad's (yabba dabba doo)- campaign slogan- change- that worked out real well ehh?

Yep and if he isn't careful ImANut might be singing his yabba dabba doo's from a remodeled place called Bedrock too.

153 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:55:54pm

re: #150 LeonidasofSparta

"that's not the Senate Banking Committee I knew...."

"that's just distractions from my main point, here, uh, uhmm, uh, that I uh, uhmm uh, am being absolutely clear-- change and hope is what America wants and Israel is the best friend of Israel."

Hell's bells! The guy is off his meds again.

Reminds me of the I think Best Buy ad when a woman has a robot (looks human) that starts spouting nonsense. The Geek Squad guy opens the robot's head and fixes it.
Someone call the Geek Squad to fix Obama's head. He's Soros' robot, and Soros wants his tools in working order.

154 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:55:59pm

I actually find it amazing that anyone is overly surprised here. The thing to understand is that he lives in an ideological echo chamber. We consider the messiah thing with him to be a joke, the people around him do not. The worship is complete. He is surrounded by sycophantic yes men that would never even consider correcting anything he says. The slips and gaffes that we hear all the time are a result of that. He's used to people that would never consider correcting him on anything. We actually had a section in psychology on people like this. It's what leads to massive cases of corruption. Someone decides to do wrong and no one dares correct them, so they get drug in and do the same thing, and it goes on and on and on.

155 mossley  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:55:59pm

This is the best candidate the Democrats have.

Doesn't say much for the rest of the party...

156 geata  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:56:09pm

Lies we can believe [in]!

157 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:56:49pm

re: #155 mossley

This is the best candidate the Democrats have.

Doesn't say much for the rest of the party...

The best candidate Soros' money could buy.

158 amphibian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:56:52pm

re: #17 noshariaincanada

Obama: "I imagined being a member of the Senate Banking Committee, and that should be good enough for you proles."

"I dreamed I was on the Senate Banking Committee in my Cross-My-Heart skivvies?" For some reason this occurred to me when I read this. And I decided to share the awful thought with anyone still on this thread.

Sorry.

159 yesandno  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:57:30pm

And to think everyone always laughed at the mangled language of Bush.

At least it was the truth and he has a sense of humor about it all.

Rush had a tape of his "ahs" in the news conference yesterday. More then 7 minutes out of 40 were UN, AHS, DUH moments....it was great...

Great speaker my A$$

160 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:58:14pm

Maybe he's just confused that he's being held to real standards. You know, like why shouldn't he be given a mulligan on every hole. Or maybe we should spot him strokes, runs or baskets because he's a minority. Or, maybe he's not used to working without an affirmative action net. Or maybe we should cut him slack because Michelle Dumbell thinks she has it tough.
As has been pointed out by numerous others, if McCain had talked of 57 states (maybe O was think of getting money from Theresa and JFingKerry).he would be crucified.
Race apparently still is a problem here in the States. So many people fear being called a racist if they speak out against Da Messiah. We are afraid to call him what he is.....a fraud.

161 chicagodudewhotrades  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:59:01pm

Soros must be looking at the money he has spent on Obama and thinking "uh-ho, this is the best I could buy?"

162 alegrias  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:59:08pm

People~

John Kerry was a military hero to Obama's supporters.

Communisty Organizer can do no wrong.

163 pat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:59:21pm

"Banking Committee? I thought you said "Tanking Committee."

164 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 2:59:45pm

re: #50 obscured by clouds

Having said that, Obama is not a very smart man, imo. Whatever he knows, he's been told. I don't think he's well read or otherwise knowledgeable about the world - and he proves me right almost every time he opens his mouth.

Despite Columbia and Harvard Law, I don't think BHO is particularly well educated. And not knowing/understanding much American or World history could prove extremely dangerous.

165 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:00:07pm

re: #132 jcm

He's waiting to triumphantly enter DC, the Civilian National Security Force will march by the Washington Monument during the parade.

I'm suddenly seeing signs of Julius Ceaser. (With less savvy and military knowledge)

166 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:00:58pm

re: #149 Occasional Reader

Please tell me that isn't original, so I won't have to hate you!

I guess it's not, but I just now thought of it anyway.

167 alegrias  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:01:03pm

This is the man who never held an Afghan Military Needs Committee meeting--and he was the Chair!

No problem, Communisty Organizer knew exactly what Afghanistan needs, without going there until yesterday, or discussing it with US military on the ground.

168 beens21  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:02:10pm

Youtube Video
BHO needs to be included in this skit.

169 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:03:55pm

re: #161 chicagodudewhotrades

Soros must be looking at the money he has spent on Obama and thinking "uh-ho, this is the best I could buy?"

Yes - a fool and his money are soon parted.

170 Avery Bullard  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:04:52pm

re: #42 Kosh's Shadow

Or I could quote Firesign Theatre:
--And One is nothing.

One is the loneliest number that you'll ever use.............Three Dog Night

171 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:04:57pm

re: #165 Mars Needs Neocons

Julius Caesar was a great man.

Obama's an empty suit.

172 winston06  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:05:43pm

He is lying again. Does America want a liar in chief?

173 mossley  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:06:01pm

re: #157 Kosh's Shadow

The best candidate Soros' money could buy.

Think he'll be asking for a refund?

174 nacazo  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:07:01pm

/obama logic on

Although he doesn't sit in that committee, he OWNs the democrat members which are the majority of the commitee. Therefor is HIS committee.

/obama logic off

175 daledog  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:07:38pm

re: #30 Cygnus

I believe Shiraz is a kind of grape that originated in Persia (Iran). Apparently, there used to be some kind of wine producing region there. Until the mohammedans took over that is.

176 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:09:01pm

re: #165 Mars Needs Neocons

I'm suddenly seeing signs of Julius Ceaser. (With less savvy and military knowledge)

re: #171 Dianna

Julius Caesar was a great man.

Obama's an empty suit.


If a Caesar, perhaps more of a Caligula. I see him as more of a General Boulanger-type (III Republique).

177 nacazo  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:09:48pm

re: #16 Occasional Reader

Wasn't he also one of the original signatories to the Declaration of Independence? You'd think he'd make a bigger deal out of it.

Good one!

Actually he didn't write it but Jefferson was inspired by the future existence of the Obamessiah.

The constitution? Another achievement of one of Obama's committees.

178 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:09:48pm

Well, at least he didn't throw the commitee under his bus, he put them ON HIS BUS.

179 LEGION  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:10:18pm

re: #171 Dianna

Hail Caesar! That's what we call an all out throw into the endzone in football now- no Hail Mary's- a football field is no place for a woman.

180 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:11:02pm

I just emailed Hannity on this.
Am sending it to all the networks now.

This is really pissing me off!

181 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:11:12pm

re: #171 Dianna

Julius Caesar was a great man.

Obama's an empty suit.

Exactly, but the comment just struck me with a crossing the rubicon type feel.

182 LEGION  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:11:51pm

re: #175 daledog

They should go back to producing wine- then stop their whining. Too many of their population is drugged out on other stuff anyway- who are they kidding?

183 HelloDare  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:13:30pm

re: #10 Occasional Reader

They just updated Obama's website. His committees are now listed as

Senate Foreign Relations Banking Committee
Senate Committee on Veterans' Banking Affairs
Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, Banking and Pensions
Senate Committee on Homeland Security, Banking and Governmental Affairs

184 nacazo  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:13:46pm

re: #175 daledog

I believe Shiraz is a kind of grape that originated in Persia (Iran). Apparently, there used to be some kind of wine producing region there. Until the mohammedans took over that is.

I believe Shiraz is where wine was first made, to the chagrin of the French.

185 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:13:49pm
186 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:14:09pm

re: #172 winston06

Another one, you mean?

187 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:14:26pm
188 Josephine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:15:14pm

re: #170 Avery Bullard

One is the loneliest number that you'll ever use.............Three Dog Night

Was the Lena Lovich song, "My Lucky Number's One" or "My Lucky Numbers Won"?

189 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:15:15pm

re: #183 HelloDare

They just updated Obama's website. His committees are now listed as

Senate Foreign Relations Banking Committee
Senate Committee on Veterans' Banking Affairs
Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, Banking and Pensions
Senate Committee on Homeland Security, Banking and Governmental Affairs

Heh. His background information now describes him as having been a
"Community Banking Organizer".

190 Sunlight  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:17:32pm

I'm telling you, lizards, the masses of voters will at the most see that video or a summary of the visit and think it's cool. They will not ever find out that he said he is on the banking committee when he isn't on that committee. Even if it is on every blog in the country. It will be presented in the morning breakfast table papers and evening news in a way that is blended with other soundbites (or not brought up at all).

We need a new news delivery system... a drafting plotter (printer) mounted on the wall next to the coffee pot in the kitchen, printing out the new media morning newspaper on a timer as an on-demand service. There's no way to get past Obama's old media marketing department without something that replaces the morning paper.

191 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:19:29pm

re: #176 grumpy old codger

If a Caesar, perhaps more of a Caligula. I see him as more of a General Boulanger-type (III Republique).

I don't know, I just read about Boulanger and he seems way more competent than Obama.

This is sad. I searched online for incompetent leaders in history to try and remember some of them that I've read about in the past, and the web is packed with nothing but anti-bush insanity in that area. The libs insanity has made it almost impossible to search for any accurate information anymore.

192 Dianna  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:25:58pm

re: #191 Mars Needs Neocons

Try Warren G. Harding and President Buchanan. Heck, try Tyler.

Richard II, Stephen of Blois, William III, the Stuart Kings, Charles the Mad of France - heck, a lot of French kings....there's a lot to choose from.

That little list is off the top of my head.

193 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:26:01pm

re: #172 winston06

He is lying again. Does America want a liar in chief?

Although all politicians stretch the truth, Americans deserve a POTUS who is at the very least really good at it.
You can fool some of the people all of the time - he can't.
You can fool all of the people some of the time - nope.
I guess he's just not a good enough liar to be POTUS.//

194 LEGION  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:27:45pm

re: #192 Dianna

French?- off with their heads?- funny

195 Dizzy26  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:27:49pm

Hey lizards, hi IS the candidate for CHANGE..

He can change anything, anytime, he wants.

He can change: Dates, places, numbers, facts, truths, committees,
and we'll oblige him, so there ---nahnanana

DNC

196 Sylvester_T_Cat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:28:03pm

There are really two major efforts that major media has going. Play up the positives where Obama is concerned, and headline the negatives for McCain. The "positive" is what will get people voting for Obama; the "negative" is what will get people who might be leaning toward McCain to stay home on voting day.

Right now the Obama spin machine is jacked up too fast, and little gears are flying off (for example, the rare journalist with integrity, complaining that the Obama World Tour was just a photo-op session). It'll run smoother after the convention, I suspect.

Meanwhile the second effort ... ignore McCain, accentuate/invent mistakes ... is grinding right along.
It's a lot more subtle, but imho it's just as important as the Cult of Obama stuff the "positive" spin has going.

/dang, time to vote for a domestic beer or three, maybe this whole thing will look a little more cheerful ;-)

197 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:29:31pm

Wonder if the official US senate website lists committee memberships?

198 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:30:07pm

what the hell does it take to get someone ...ANYONE ...who can be honest....I mean.... CRAP! this is pathological...for crying out loud

199 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:31:55pm

Went and looked. According to the official US senate site obambi is NOT on that committee!

200 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:33:09pm
201 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:33:41pm

and isn't Chuck Hagel, who is on the committee....sitting right behind him as he is saying that?

202 faraway  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:34:39pm

Maybe Lord Obama needs Lieberman behind him at all times to correct him as he speaks.

203 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:37:52pm

re: #197 pingjockey

Wonder if the official US senate website lists committee memberships?

I posted this on the subject on the next thread

re: #89 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Not here, on senate.gov.
204 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:38:15pm

An idiot and an ass.

205 Lee Coller  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:38:54pm

Tell Obama he might want to check out that new speech writer he just hired. You know, the one that looks like Karl Rove with a rug.

206 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:39:12pm

re: #203 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Yep. Went to the super secret senate website the msm can't find and checked.

207 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:39:15pm

Democrat
Christopher J. Dodd Chairman (D-CT)
Richard C. Shelby Ranking Member (R-AL)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Robert F. Bennett (R-UT)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Wayne Allard (R-CO)
Charles E. Schumer (D-NY)
Michael B. Enzi (R-WY)
Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Daniel K. Akaka (D-HI)
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
Robert P. Casey (D-PA)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Jon Tester (D-MT)

208 LesLein  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:39:54pm

PowerLine has another good one: Hollywood is thinking of making Mary Mapes' book into a movie!

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

209 A440Hz  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:39:57pm

Lizard Army: Don't be playa hate-ahs. BO just be sayin that the committee be his posse, his homeboys. What? You think my homeboys actually live at my crib? Nowhati'msayin?

210 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:40:13pm

re: #192 Dianna

Try Warren G. Harding and President Buchanan. Heck, try Tyler.

Richard II, Stephen of Blois, William III, the Stuart Kings, Charles the Mad of France - heck, a lot of French kings....there's a lot to choose from.

That little list is off the top of my head.

Nice list. I was thinking of generals, but that is far more fitting for Obambi.

211 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:40:53pm

committee memebership

subcommittees show no sign of him either

212 mean Gene  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:41:12pm

You're not going to believe this but CNN (maybe that REALLY does stand for CLINTON News Network) just had a story on Obama making up his membership on the Banking Committee!
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]

213 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:41:12pm

LLPOF

214 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:41:22pm

re: #207 kawfytawk

Democrat
Christopher J. Dodd Chairman (D-CT)
Richard C. Shelby Ranking Member (R-AL)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Robert F. Bennett (R-UT)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Wayne Allard (R-CO)
Charles E. Schumer (D-NY)
Michael B. Enzi (R-WY)
Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Daniel K. Akaka (D-HI)
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
Robert P. Casey (D-PA)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Jon Tester (D-MT)

Testes

/Just thought you would like to know his name here.
By the by he's only going to be a one termer. Got an unbeatable candidate coming up by the time of his reelection.

215 K~Bob  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:42:43pm

Senator Obama reminds me of young kids (usually boys) I knew, who would always have something to to say--constantly attempting to dominate a conversation. You know the kind'a kid I mean: always fighting for that center of attention by spouting a story that is too bizarre to be true. Stupid stories like, "I know this kid who drank a whole bottle of his mom's perfume!" or, "Once we took a whole bunch of fruit from the supermarket, and nobody saw us!" or ""At the school where my brother goes, this one teacher always trips the kids in the hall!" Stories that could maybe be true, but at best, were incredibly embellished, and more likely were made up on-the-spot.

That kinda kid is pretty common under the age of ten. Heck, we probably all tried that tactic at least once or twice when we were little. The vast majority of kids grow out of it or are taught better by parents and teachers. Unfortunately, some never grow out of it, never even notice they are inventing and embellishing. They live inside a malleable world of meaningless words, and convince themselves that whatever they are saying now is reality. Ten minutes from now, they make a different claim or tell the story differently, and reality shifts to accommodate them.

Its a pathology that is beyond narcissism.

[Comedians know about this aspect of growing up, and they harness it directly to tell humorous stories. So do writers of fiction. But it's unlikely they actually believe the stuff they invent. I doubt even L. Ron Hubbard was that screwed up.]

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

216 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:43:12pm

re: #206 pingjockey

Yep. Went to the super secret senate website the msm can't find and checked.

Now, these committees have sub-committees. Maybe he's on a sub-committee which has "Banking" in its name. HOWEVER, he said "the U.S. Senate Banking Committee".

This is where his people will perform the nuance two-step.

217 tradewind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:43:26pm

And some aide told the press

that's just normal operations for a president visiting overseas......


...tap tap tapUh, there hasn't been an election yet.......
You can't make this stuff up...
But somehow, they keep doin' it.

218 jegjr  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:44:17pm

"...U.S. Banking Committee, which is my committee."

Obama's answer when he's questioned about it - "Well, it's a U.S. committee, and, I am an american. So it's my committee. That's all I meant."

219 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:44:30pm

Asbestos Boxers

220 tradewind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:44:37pm

re: #209 A440Hz

No offense, but no need for that....it just feeds the misperceptions on the left...

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:44:42pm

re: #2 Ben Hur

Ben I down dinged ya...didn't mean to. oops.

222 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:45:53pm

re: #191 Mars Needs Neocons

A good history of the run-up to the US Civil War will show Buchanan as a terribly weak president.

223 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:45:57pm

re: #216 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I've got his peoples nuance right here.

224 tradewind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:47:21pm

When questioned, Obama explained
' All your committees belong to us'.

225 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:48:03pm

re: #222 Ojoe

A good history of the run-up to the US Civil War will show Buchanan as a terribly weak president.

and let's not forget during the civil war. Burnside snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

226 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:48:53pm

re: #225 Mars Needs Neocons
George Meade and McCllelan come to mind.

227 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:49:12pm

re: #225 Mars Needs Neocons

& McCllean (sp) sitting on his ass

228 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:49:54pm

re: #225 Mars Needs Neocons

and let's not forget during the civil war. Burnside snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

oooooh!
Let's have an Ambrose BacksideBurningThread!

229 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:49:56pm

Both correct.

230 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:50:05pm

re: #192 Dianna

Try Warren G. Harding and President Buchanan. Heck, try Tyler.

Richard II, Stephen of Blois, William III, the Stuart Kings, Charles the Mad of France - heck, a lot of French kings....there's a lot to choose from.

That little list is off the top of my head.

James II was as bad as advertised but the Stuarts generally get a bad press they didn't deserve. James I did sponsor the best Bible translation ever. Charles I sincerely felt himself to be a martyr for the people's liberty from arbitrary tyranny by Cromwell. Charles II set a new standard for tolerance.

231 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:50:16pm

re: #227 Ojoe

& McCllean (sp) sitting on his ass

why couldn't he bust a move?
he really pissed off lincoln.

232 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:50:52pm

Well one day Obama will be obscure & forgotten just like Buchannan, except I hope he doesn't take a term or two with him.

233 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:51:20pm

re: #226 pingjockey

George Meade and McCllelan come to mind.

Apples and oranges.
Meade was good.
McClellan lost Antietam through a sheer lack of balls.

234 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:52:32pm

Obama is the sim ply a lying Sack Of S***. In Britain exposure in public falsehoods like these did destroy careers.

235 hippieforlife  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:52:36pm

Amazing! Obama is totally devoid of humanity. He just said that he would not be putting his children in the public eye again, but I read that they are doing a spread for People magazine.

This man needs to be a leader and he is not. It's painful to think that he may be our leader. Terrible choice, just imagine what may be in that empty suit.

236 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:53:35pm

re: #233 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I didn't think Meade was worth a damn. I'm mistaken. Haven't read any civil war history in quite a while.

237 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:53:41pm

re: #233 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Apples and oranges.
Meade was good.
McClellan lost Antietam through a sheer lack of balls.

Antietam was a Union victory. McClellan failed to aggressively follow up.

238 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:53:53pm

re: #231 nyc redneck

Character.

But look at this guy instead


Grant

BBL

239 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:54:03pm

a lot of people like to say Uncle Monty was pretty bad during ww2 but there seems to be a lot of debate there.

and lets not forget the massive incompetence of The Charge of the Light Brigade. (Though it's still unclear who actually wound up screwing up the orders. Though most think Nolan is the one who got things messed up. Or Raglan gave the wrong orders and later covered his own ass.)

240 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:55:51pm

Give the guy a break!

How's he supposed to remember which committees he's on and which ones he not on, when he's hardly even been in Washington DC for two years.

You'd forget too.

241 KSK  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:57:10pm

There is so much US media in Berlin and nobody seems to notice that the Obama campaign is running the place like they owned it. They are treating German media like shit and tell Germans that they are not allowed to show slogans in a major Berlin avenue?

Are they kidding me? What if a German politician was campaigning in New York and telling Americans what they can do and what not?

242 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:58:08pm

re: #237 lifeofthemind

Antietam was a Union victory. McClellan failed to aggressively follow up.

Precisely. Lee's army was on the wrong side of the river, and vulnerable. If McClellan had pushed the fight, the Army of Northern Virginia could have been destroyed on the second day. That was why McClellan was removed from command.

243 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:58:25pm

re: #240 Ringo the Gringo

well Chuck Hagel...who if I am not mistaken is traveling with him, is the blooming ranking member....hell, he should have said....Uhhhhh no your not...dumbazz

244 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 3:59:05pm
245 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:00:03pm

re: #236 pingjockey

I didn't think Meade was worth a damn. I'm mistaken. Haven't read any civil war history in quite a while.

Meade was very competent at Gettyburg. After that, he was (IMHO) overshadowed by Grant, who travelled with the Army of the Potomac.

246 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:00:39pm

re: #243 kawfytawk

well Chuck Hagel...who if I am not mistaken is traveling with him, is the blooming ranking member....hell, he should have said....Uhhhhh no your not...dumbazz

he is the ranking member of the subcommittee for financial institutions

247 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:04:33pm

re: #244 buzzsawmonkey

It inspired such beautiful poetry. It's sad that it was an unnecessary massacre.

248 Adrenalyn  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:10:55pm

hoping no one else has said this:


he was also the fourth stooge

249 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:12:02pm

re: #242 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Precisely. Lee's army was on the wrong side of the river, and vulnerable. If McClellan had pushed the fight, the Army of Northern Virginia could have been destroyed on the second day. That was why McClellan was removed from command.

Best bit in Bruce Catton.

At Antietam the Union Generals were discussing how to get Burnsides' Brigade into the battle. The were all on horseback on the hill on the East side of the valley with the creek below them and the Confederate positions on the opposite slope. One General observed the scene and quoted Jomini on the problem of making an opposed river crossing. Another replied by quoting from Caesar's Gallic Wars. Other gentleman chimed in with lore they remembered from their days together at West Point. Maybe somebody mentioned Clausewitz. Clearly they were having a good time and were willing to continue for some period while the troops were being killed before them. Finally a junior officer, who had graduated last in his class at the US Military Academy and who's head was uncluttered by theory, kicked his horse and rode out into the middle of Antietam creek. As the water lapped at his horses knees he called out, "This is how deep it is General!" That is how George Armstrong Custer became America's youngest general officer.

250 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:12:14pm

re: #248 Adrenalyn

who?

251 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:12:17pm

Larry, Moe, Curly, and Obambi.

252 Adrenalyn  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:14:46pm

re: #250 Ojoe

who?

Obama could also have been the fourth Muskateer in a previous life
Shirley McClain was his mom then but got thrown under the chariot

253 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:15:51pm

re: #252 Adrenalyn

He might have been in "Our Gang"

/incorrect

254 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:16:04pm

I suppose it depends on the meaning of "my"(committee)

255 Adrenalyn  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:16:13pm

Obama was also the man who inspired Mel Brooks to use a black sheriff in Blazing Saddles (which was really written by Al Gore on a beta-version of the internet)

256 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:17:55pm

re: #253 OjoeThat was Eddie Murphy! I'm Alfalfa damnit!

257 Adrenalyn  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:18:28pm

re: #256 pingjockey

That was Eddie Murphy! I'm Alfalfa damnit!

man, this thread is giving me the buckwheats
(copyright Dan Rather)

258 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:18:35pm

re: #249 lifeofthemind

Best bit in Bruce Catton.

At Antietam the Union Generals were discussing how to get Burnsides' Brigade into the battle. The were all on horseback on the hill on the East side of the valley with the creek below them and the Confederate positions on the opposite slope. One General observed the scene and quoted Jomini on the problem of making an opposed river crossing. Another replied by quoting from Caesar's Gallic Wars. Other gentleman chimed in with lore they remembered from their days together at West Point. Maybe somebody mentioned Clausewitz. Clearly they were having a good time and were willing to continue for some period while the troops were being killed before them. Finally a junior officer, who had graduated last in his class at the US Military Academy and who's head was uncluttered by theory, kicked his horse and rode out into the middle of Antietam creek. As the water lapped at his horses knees he called out, "This is how deep it is General!" That is how George Armstrong Custer became America's youngest general officer.

Beg to differ. That happened on the Chickahominy, during the Peninsula campaign. See Mr. Lincon's Army, pg. 114 in the Doubleday edition.

259 Omachka  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:21:53pm

re: #178 Walter L. Newton

Well, at least he didn't throw the commitee under his bus, he put them ON HIS BUS.

Unless someone confronts him with the lie... then he will have to throw the committee under the bus.

260 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:21:57pm

Burger King Obama

/home of the Whopper

261 GeeWiz  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:22:33pm

BHO as a possible POTUS scares the hell out of me. There is only one thing that scares me more, the number of Americans that support him.

262 Pyroskank  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:22:35pm

re: #23 Dianna

I sure hope talk radio's up on this!

I hope the entire blogosphere is paying attention!

OK, at least the dextrosphere. There's no way the sinistrosphere will in any way note this flat out lie.

The fact that I understood this makes me feel ten times nerdier than I did just five minutes ago.

Well played.

263 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:22:54pm

re: #258 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Beg to differ. That happened on the Chickahominy, during the Peninsula campaign. See Mr. Lincon's Army, pg. 114 in the Doubleday edition.

You sure? I'll have to go dig now. Thought I was wrong once before but that time I was mistaken.

264 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:22:55pm

Good grief!
How in the hell has this lying sack of $#!t come this close to being president of the US, and is still narrowly leading in the polling?

Can the American voting public really be this stupid and gullible?

265 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:24:53pm

re: #263 lifeofthemind

You sure? I'll have to go dig now. Thought I was wrong once before but that time I was mistaken.

I'm certain. Catton's books are around the corner in the other room. I ran in and got it, checked index and read the page.

*grinning*
I'm no expert on the Civil War. You merely happened to mention one of my own favorite episodes, and I knew where and how to find the citation.

266 Adrenalyn  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:25:07pm

re: #264 RightOnTheLeftCoast

Good grief!
How in the hell has this lying sack of $#!t come this close to being president of the US, and is still narrowly leading in the polling?

Can the American voting public really be this stupid and gullible?

polling ?

like the polls that predicted Al Gore would win in 2000
ditto for Kerry in 2004

the media is behind him (see networks calling FL before the polls closed) and ignorant youth
he won't take many states
Ca maybe and that's about it

we can't be THAT STUPID ! ?

267 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:25:20pm

re: #264 RightOnTheLeftCoast

Yes! See Jon halp uz Kary, Barbara Boxer, Harry Realestate Reid, Nancy I don't hafta blink Pelosi.

268 GeeWiz  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:25:33pm

re: #264 RightOnTheLeftCoast

Can the American voting public really be this stupid and gullible?

see my post @261

269 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:25:46pm

re: #264 RightOnTheLeftCoast

yep....at least half of the voting public

270 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:26:01pm

re: #263 lifeofthemind

You sure? I'll have to go dig now. Thought I was wrong once before but that time I was mistaken.

OOPS! It is, however, page 115.

/typing too damn fast.

271 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:26:34pm

re: #264 RightOnTheLeftCoast
Al all your carbon credits belong me Gore

272 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:28:37pm
273 DocDublU  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:28:53pm

i believe that Obama is also the chairman of the Senate Globular Clusters Committee.

274 wtc394  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:29:44pm

Have we had time to get to this gaffe yet ?

275 theparson  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:30:38pm

You are not understanding his meaning.
It's like, "The Rangers won today, that's my team".
You know, "We're number one...the Bankers Committee are number one!"

276 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:33:42pm

re: #264 RightOnTheLeftCoast

Good grief!
How in the hell has this lying sack of $#!t come this close to being president of the US, and is still narrowly leading in the polling?

Can the American voting public really be this stupid and gullible?

Sigh. Democracy is the system that ensures the people get the government they deserve. It also ensures that you get the government they deserve. Despite all the flowery speeches made on windy platforms in the days before television, it is not based on the expected intelligence or virtue of individuals or even really of groups. It is based on the practical recognition that other systems are over time worse. In a republican system such as America is supposed to have the expectation is that an iterative process will both empower the office holders with legitimacy by linking them to a sovereignty vested in the nation at large and shall reduce effects of the passion and cupidity that prevails among the populace by filtering it through a series of elections. This permits persons with qualities of better judgement to be brought forward in what is a form of political market. The reality has become increasingly divorced from the theory but it still is better than the alternatives.

277 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:35:07pm

re: #270 pre-Boomer Marine brat

OOPS! It is, however, page 115.

/typing too damn fast.

Damn it, when I make the movie it will happen my way.

278 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:36:31pm

re: #266 Adrenalyn

polling ?

like the polls that predicted Al Gore would win in 2000
ditto for Kerry in 2004

the media is behind him (see networks calling FL before the polls closed) and ignorant youth
he won't take many states
Ca maybe and that's about it

we can't be THAT STUPID ! ?

That's what I tried to tell someone earlier who posted that McCain CANT win.

279 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:38:04pm
280 LeatherNeckLady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:38:15pm

Well just imagine yet another "ego trip" courtesy of the Obama Magical Mystery Tour. And people say that McCain makes mistakes due to his age. I am certainly not naive, but if that is true, I would rather have people make honest mistakes due to age than to flat out lie about things.

281 Captain Jack  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:38:15pm

I have heard at least 10 gaffes from Obama that would have sunk any Republican. The press are really dragging him across the finish line. The press is actually dragging an ideology called socialism. The physical body of Obama is the multi-cultural camouflage for the racists who plan to vote for him and the triumph of those who have manipulated his image. I love hearing him speak extemporaneously about foreign policy....awful. Reporters struggle to pin him down.

282 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:39:46pm

re: #277 lifeofthemind

Damn it, when I make the movie it will happen my way.

THAT'S th' spirit!

283 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:39:54pm

if this moron with a full blown pinocchio nose and pants on fire doesn't make those who want to "teach the republican party a lesson" change their minds...we will be in for a hell of a mess.

284 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:40:48pm

re: #280 LeatherNeckLady

I heard ego trips are especially nice this time of year

285 EE  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:42:02pm

Obama not only referred to the "U.S. Senate Banking Committee, which is my committee", as he said the word "my" he moved his hand to his chest, to emphasize in no uncertain terms that this was his committee -- that is, that he chaired that committee. In actuality, he doesn't chair that committee, and he is not even a member of if.

Possibilities: (1) He was lying. He is a serial liar, who repeatedly changes his position and then denies that his position has changed. But it is difficult to believe that he thought he could get away with such a lie, when everyone knows that he is not a member of this committee. So it may be that he is an uncontrollable liar, the way that some people -- known as kleptomaniacs -- have an uncontrollable urge to steal. Had he given the matter some serious thought, he would not have lied, but he was unable to stop himself from lying. But he is a compulsive liar, and when not reading the Teleprompter is apt to go off on an uncontrollable, compulsively produced lie.

(2) He was not lying, because he believed it himself, and he lives in a fantasy world. Obama's fantasy world includes his being convinced that he is the Messiah (or Mahdi, in Muslim terms). In his fantasy world, he does all sorts of things, and is chairman of all sorts of committees. This could be a form of schizophrenia, and people do have such syndromes, although they generally take medication for it.

Obama had a miserable childhood. He was abandoned by his father at the age of 2. He was abandoned by his mother at the age of 10. So he got into the habit of living in a dream world, where these things did not actually happen, and where the world is whatever he imagines it to be, and he is whatever he imagines himself to be. Maybe it's not quite schizophrenia, but it involves being accustomed to living in a fantasy world, and actually believing the fantasies.

(3) He has a mental condition in which he is unaware of what he is actually saying. It's more or less sleep-walking, and he goes through the motions of speaking, but it doesn't really register in his mind what he is saying.

With this mental case Barack Hussein Obama in the White House as President Obama, Ahmadinejad will be rubbing his hands in glee, as he goes about testing President Obama with a severe challenge. Revolutionary Islamic Iran rolled over President Jimmy Carter, by attacking our embassy there and holding our people as hostages for 444 days, until Carter left office and President Reagan came into power. With a President Obama, who appears to be a reality-denying mental case, and who also appears to be very weak and an appeaser, the test that will be put to President Obama may be very severe. Iran under the mullahs and ayatollahs is becoming nuclear, and getting ready for nuclear jihad. God help us.

286 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:42:08pm

re: #280 LeatherNeckLady

Well just imagine yet another "ego trip" courtesy of the Obama Magical Mystery Tour. And people say that McCain makes mistakes due to his age. I am certainly not naive, but if that is true, I would rather have people make honest mistakes due to age than to flat out lie about things.

Gee, can this old fart use you as a character reference, or somethin', the next time I screw up?

287 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:42:43pm

What was he thinking?

288 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:44:00pm

re: #271 pingjockey

Al all your carbon credits belong me Gore

To Mr. Gore...
I pass methane in your general direction!

289 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:44:03pm
290 _remembertonyc  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:44:27pm

B.O. should pick John Murtha as his running mate. They seem to have much in common.

291 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:45:37pm

re: #279 buzzsawmonkey

As far as I'm concerned, the out-and-out corruption of anyone giving any money to any candidate they want to, as long as complete disclosure of the source of all contributions or donations is required, is far and away better than the multiplicity of thumbs being placed on the political scales by "campaign finance reform." I'd rather have honest corruption than corruption connived at and surreptitiously engaged in.

I include all of the post-Watergate "reforms," and McCain-Feingold, in the list of things that should be scrapped.

I'd agree with that 100%!
Full transparency and disclosure would be the way to go here. It's often been said that, in politics, sunlight is the best disinfectant.

292 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:46:14pm

The US Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs

Democrat
Christopher J. Dodd Chairman (D-CT)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Charles E. Schumer (D-NY)
Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Daniel K. Akaka (D-HI)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Robert P. Casey (D-PA)
Jon Tester (D-MT)

Republican
Richard C. Shelby Ranking Member (R-AL)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Wayne Allard (R-CO)
Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
Michael B. Enzi (R-WY)
Robert F. Bennett (R-UT)

293 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:46:29pm

well I'm outta here...gonna go out back and do a rain dance....if Dolly doesn't bring some rain to central Texas...I give up

294 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:48:41pm

Perhaps Obama was confusing this committee with the Senate Foreign Relations Sub-committee on Afghanistan, which he is on, but has never attended a meeting of. Easly confused.

295 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:49:53pm

re: #279 buzzsawmonkey

As far as I'm concerned, the out-and-out corruption of anyone giving any money to any candidate they want to, as long as complete disclosure of the source of all contributions or donations is required, is far and away better than the multiplicity of thumbs being placed on the political scales by "campaign finance reform." I'd rather have honest corruption than corruption connived at and surreptitiously engaged in.

I include all of the post-Watergate "reforms," and McCain-Feingold, in the list of things that should be scrapped.

Works for me. Remember George Washington Plunkitt and Honest Graft? If the 19th amendment was repealed and state legislators, a bunch of hacks generally, could spend time grilling Senators on their fitness we would learn more. The Confederacy had the interesting idea of seating Cabinet officers in the legislature so they would be available for questioning in a semi-parliamentary manner. The crime should be in concealing information from the public.

296 Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:51:01pm

My mother called and told me that the Germans are refering to Obambam as "Ich bin ein beginner"!

297 tradewind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:51:15pm

re: #240 Ringo the Gringo

Not if you're the Dalai Bama.
(From Mischa's anti-idiotarian rottie site)

298 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:51:39pm

re: #285 EE

Serial & compulsive lying are traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. His internal reality of omnipotence is more compelling, & therefore more real, than any outside "facts".

299 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:52:16pm

re: #296 Steve

My mother called and told me that the Germans are refering to Obambam as "Ich bin ein beginner"!

Oh that is good!

"Ich bin ein beginner"!

300 tradewind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:53:07pm

re: #298 Kenneth
It's really not fair, since Hillary was run outta town for the same thing.
Man. bet she's really twerked.

301 Steve  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:53:13pm

re: #299 Kenneth

Now all we need is a photo of him with the quote underneath.

302 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:53:58pm

re: #191 Mars Needs Neocons

Mars,
You're right. He was competent and was immensely popular. The origianl "Man on the White Horse". He came at a time of irredentism/revanchism and was seen as the reincarnation of the Napoleonic spirit. (Hard to remember that at one time the furor francaise was the scourge of Europe, i.e., before Germany got its act together}. However, his failure to act and them his suicide at his mistresses grave were his undoings.
He could have been welcomed as a saviour to the III' Republique. As it is, he ends up as a footnote. I hope BHusseinO ends up the same way, a failure. Of course, then I'll be accused of being a racist, etc..

303 Drill_Thrawl  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:55:15pm

BHO wants to be on that committee so therefore it is his committee much like I badly want a Rally Yellow 2010 Camaro SS and so I refer to it as "my car".

Silly people you take things too literaly.

/

304 Ezekiel2517  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:55:27pm

OBAMA LIED! BILLS DIED (IN COMMITTEE)!

305 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:58:00pm

re: #239 Mars Needs Neocons

a lot of people like to say Uncle Monty was pretty bad during ww2 but there seems to be a lot of debate there.

and lets not forget the massive incompetence of The Charge of the Light Brigade. (Though it's still unclear who actually wound up screwing up the orders. Though most think Nolan is the one who got things messed up. Or Raglan gave the wrong orders and later covered his own ass.)

As John ford said, "When legend becomes the fact, print the legend".

306 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:58:00pm

re: #279 buzzsawmonkey

That and immigration are the two main points that are making it hard for me to head up Vets for McCain here in MT. But, then I look at the alternative and realize there's no choice.

307 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 4:59:44pm
308 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:00:26pm

re: #285 EE

It is possible he could be pathological.

309 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:01:32pm

re: #297 tradewind

Not if you're the Dalai Bama.
(From Mischa's anti-idiotarian rottie site)

310 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:02:19pm

re: #309 grumpy old codger

tradewind

ROTFLMAO!

311 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:02:35pm

re: #292 Kenneth

The US Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs

Democrat
Christopher J. Dodd Chairman (D-CT)
Tim Johnson (D-SD)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Charles E. Schumer (D-NY)
Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Daniel K. Akaka (D-HI)
Sherrod Brown (D-OH)
Robert P. Casey (D-PA)
Jon Tester Testes (D-MT)

Republican
Richard C. Shelby Ranking Member (R-AL)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Mel Martinez (R-FL)
Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
Mike Crapo (R-ID)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Jim Bunning (R-KY)
Wayne Allard (R-CO)
Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
Michael B. Enzi (R-WY)
Robert F. Bennett (R-UT)

Please get it right. A small, cuddly critter in MT dies when each time someone gets it wrong.

312 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:03:38pm

re: #237 lifeofthemind

Antietam was a Union loss tactically and draw/minor win strategically.

Strategically it confined the ANV to not invading Pennsylvania, which was the aim of Lee's campaign that year. That was a huge plus. BUT the ANV escaped the battlefield after holding off the vastly larger Union forces and the war was extended for several more years than if the ANV had been wiped out instead. It gave the ANV a big win against long odds and a huge boost to morale. They won the day then left in the night rather than being wiped out and fought for several more very bloody years.

313 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:03:42pm

re: #298 Kenneth

Serial & compulsive lying are traits of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. His internal reality of omnipotence is more compelling, & therefore more real, than any outside "facts".

Pretty accurate. You in Psych?

314 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:04:27pm

re: #302 grumpy old codger

I hope so too.

315 NTropy  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:04:50pm

He's pandering to the blacks. Similar to the way we've all heard "That's my boy" from the likes of Spike Jones or Martin Lawrence, Obama is referring to the committee that way. "That's my committee...BOY!"

316 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:05:28pm

re: #305 grumpy old codger

As John ford said, "When legend becomes the fact, print the legend".

Or as Pinch Sulzberger said "Make it up as we go along"
/

317 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:06:34pm

re: #312 anotherindyfilmguy

So you make movies? We can make this my way? It would film better than those pesky facts.

318 NTropy  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:07:26pm

re: #12 Iron Fist

Wow. If the media were paying attention doing anything other than cheerleading, BHO would already be an "also ran".


Fixed that for you

319 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:08:39pm

re: #264 RightOnTheLeftCoast

No, the public is not.

BHO getting this far is due to a small cadre of idiot radicals taking over the democratic party; they are the get a life people who will stay the latest at a meeting.

IMHO

320 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:09:29pm

Excuse me, pleasures of the flesh.

321 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:13:21pm

Hey All!
Check out what Andrea Mitchell has to say about Obama's trip.
I had to read it twice to believe a lib reporter like Mitchell actually said this stuff.
[Link: newsbusters.org...]

322 6pat6  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:15:47pm

Obama is disgusting. At every turn, he comes up with even more reasons why he MUST NOT BE the next POTUS! Are people really this blind? The handful of Obamites I know are practically orgasmic over his every word! And, none of them can tell me what he has done or what he stands for, other than the tired-assed CHANGE! and HOPE! bullshit.

B-HO represents the sneakiness and paranoia of Nixon, the incompetence of LBJ, the whole of Carter's being, and the worst lying of Clinton, all wrapped up in one utterly horrid package.

323 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:15:51pm

re: #319 Ojoe

No, the public is not.

BHO getting this far is due to a small cadre of idiot radicals taking over the democratic party; they are the get a life people who will stay the latest at a meeting.

IMHO

That could explain his getting the Dhimmicrat nomination, primarily on the basis of getting the jump in caucus states where a small, energized group can sway the vote...
But how does it explain his lead in polling, from the huge leads from months ago to the razor-thin margins now? His thin/nonexistant credentials, his policy history, and some of the most egregious misstatements/gaffes/lies in recent memory, and he still has a plurality of the population polled in his corner!

324 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:19:30pm

The 2ndary phenomenon you mention could be primarily from the bias of the mainstream media.

These boosts seem to be eroding, as you say.

Off to cook dinner

BBL

325 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:19:58pm
re: #12 Iron Fist Wow. If the media were paying attention doing anything other than cheerleading masturbating, BHO would already be an "also ran". Fixed that for you

And now I've fixed it for you.

326 quickjustice  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:22:08pm

The trouble is that only political junkies are paying any attention to this stuff right now. Obama has the luxury of stumbling and bumbling his way around the world, and the Mainstream Media report that he's farting perfume.

The Democrats are keeping all their fingers and toes crossed that by the time the public starts paying attention in September, Obama's campaign will have all of the kinks worked out. If he does, and McCain fails to ignite (as seems increasingly likely), O will be the next President of the U.S.

On the other hand, Hillary has to be looking for her opening. If Obama's performance doesn't improve, making the Super-Delegates nervous, she may move on him at the Convention.

327 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:23:49pm

re: #326 quickjustice

Some of the press might be noticing. I've heard CNN picked up on this one, and I guess Andrea Mitchell has some not so nice things to say about this tour.

328 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:24:33pm

New name for the MSM.

TOMMS

The Obama Mutual Masturbation Society

329 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:25:10pm

re: #320 lifeofthemind

Excuse me, pleasures of the flesh.

Are you alone?

330 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:25:50pm
331 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:28:20pm

re: #330 buzzsawmonkey

I agree, anyone who thinks this will change the worlds view of us is naive.

(Europe 90-94, with occasional detours to the ME)

332 RickZ  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:29:45pm

re: #327 Mars Needs Neocons

Some of the press might be noticing. I've heard CNN picked up on this one, and I guess Andrea Mitchell has some not so nice things to say about this tour.

Mitchell: Let me just say something about the message management. He didn't have reporters with him, he didn't have a press pool, he didn't do a press conference while he was on the ground in either Afghanistan or Iraq. What you're seeing is not reporters brought in. You're seeing selected pictures taken by the military, questions by the military, and what some would call fake interviews, because they're not interviews from a journalist. So, there's a real press issue here. Politically it's smart as can be. But we've not seen a presidential candidate do this, in my recollection, ever before.

With the buildup to that last sentence, Mitchell went way off the Plantation. When it comes to the Obama, maybe the Legacy Media are waking up, one small mind at a time?

333 Midnightrain  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:30:20pm

That's almost as good as when John Kerry confused himself with Bob Kerrey.

Obama must have confused himself with Akaka.

And if Akaka is Portuguese for "monkey," I apologize.

334 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:30:43pm

re: #332 RickZ

God I hope so. I also loved Der Spiegel's criticism of his refusal to have foreign press go with him.

335 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:32:04pm

re: #333 Midnightrain

That's almost as good as when John Kerry confused himself with Bob Kerrey.

Obama must have confused himself with Akaka.

And if Akaka is Portuguese for "monkey," I apologize.


*Snort*
ROFL

... you came *thiiiiiiis* close to owing me a new keyboard for that one...

336 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:32:10pm

re: #330 buzzsawmonkey

It should be pointed out that the World, which was supposedly solidly in sympathy with the US on and right after 9/11, turned on the US in a second when the US decided to do something about it.

By the same token, the World which is supposedly dewy and tingling over the prospect of an Obama presidency is basically just sucking up and biding its time, looking forward to being able to mock the US for the inexperienced buffoon it hopes we put at the helm, and hoping to be able to cut any number of capers that a competent president would not let it get away with.

true, there are, however, many fools who genuinely do buy what he is selling.
especially in europe.

337 mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:32:24pm

The Fine Line Between Pandering and Lying. Oh its lying. He should pick Tommy Flanagan for his running mate.

Just like he lies on his new commercial when he makes the statement that the bill he co-sponsored with Richard Luger will work to secure loose nuclear weapons that might otherwise fall into terrorists' hands. Really? Obama knows about loose nuclear weapons on the black market? And who we can buy them from?

And while he is speaking words appear on the screen saying

"ON THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE
OBAMA PASSED A LAW
...TO KEEP NUCLEAR WEAPONS
OUT OF TERRORISTS' HANDS.


I never knew we needed a law to make sure of that.
And I can't figure out how any committee passed a law in the first place?

Just more lies meant to impress stupid people from the most clueless of them all.

338 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:34:01pm

Obama/Pinocchio '08

/because you can't handle the truth

339 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:34:48pm

re: #337 mich-again

Obama ads in MT talk about his background in work and how he has so much in common with the working man.

/yeah the arugula farmers maybe

340 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:35:46pm

re: #337 mich-again

Saw that ad a few minutes ago. I yelled Bullshit even without knowing the facts. My wife glared at me. (the kids are still up and running around)

341 mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:39:57pm

In the screen during that Obama misinformercial, this is cited as the source.

PL 109-472 1/11/07

re: #339 Mars Needs Neocons

Obama ads in MT talk about his background in work and how he has so much in common with the working man.

He knows all about pounding the street looking for a job.

342 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:40:47pm

re: #341 mich-again

? forget sarc tag? He was handed jobs at each step of his life.

343 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:41:09pm

re: #341 mich-again

Or do you mean campaigning?

344 LeatherNeckLady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:41:11pm

Yes they are especially nice these days. Particularly since we the American tax payer is footing the bill for he and his little followers.re: #284 kawfytawk

345 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:41:44pm
346 LeatherNeckLady  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:43:43pm

re: #286 pre-Boomer Marine brat LOL absolutely Brat, anytime!

347 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:44:40pm

re: #328 Mars Needs Neocons

New name for the MSM.

TOMMS

The Obama Mutual Masturbation Society

I had to ding you down for besmirching the fine name of mutual masturbation -- an agreeable practice that is as close to 100% harmless as any form of erotic activity with another person can get.

Can we call it "The Obama Mutual Ass-licking Society," instead? That's a significant Hepatitis-A risk, and gives you bad breath.

348 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:48:25pm
349 grumpy old codger  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:49:38pm

re: #347 Throbert McGee

Want to thank you for compelling me to get my mind out of medicine for a while and think. go back to the thread wherein you corrected me re the difference between ad and in. Waves of memories flashed over when I did that. a ae ae am long a.

350 kansas  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:49:50pm

"ON THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE OBAMA PASSED A LAW
...TO KEEP NUCLEAR WEAPONS OUT OF TERRORISTS' HANDS."


Man it just doesn't get any better than this.

351 mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:50:28pm

If you dig into Obama's "law" to stop loose nuclear weapons from terrorists' hands, yu will see it is just a foreign aid package to give friendly nations willing to cooperate cash to secure loose conventional weapons. How do they enact that?

(c) INTERDICTION ASSISTANCE AMENDMENTS.—Section 583 of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 (22 U.S.C. 2349bb–2) is amended—

1) in subsection (a)—
(A) by striking ‘‘should ensure that’’ and inserting ‘‘shall ensure that, beginning in fiscal year 2007,’’;
(B) by striking ‘‘expended’’ and inserting ‘‘obligated’’; and
(C) by striking ‘‘that originate from, and are destined for, other countries’’ and inserting ‘‘to non-state actors and states of proliferation concern’’;...

Well there you have it. Should is replaced with Shall and they closed the "Osama bin Laden loophole" in the existing non-proliferation law. Well that makes me feel safer..

352 kansas  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:53:44pm

re: #351 mich-again

If you dig into Obama's "law" to stop loose nuclear weapons from terrorists' hands, yu will see it is just a foreign aid package to give friendly nations willing to cooperate cash to secure loose conventional weapons. How do they enact that?


Well there you have it. Should is replaced with Shall and they closed the "Osama bin Laden loophole" in the existing non-proliferation law. Well that makes me feel safer..


I wondered WTF he could have been talking about. Did anybody tell Osama, by the way. He really needs to know.

353 mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:54:10pm

re: #342 Mars Needs Neocons

Oh there are probably lots of people pulling down a nice paycheck who don't actually have a job. They have a "Position". Not to be confused with a job where you actually have to like..work.

354 mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 5:57:03pm

re: #352 kansas

I wondered WTF he could have been talking about. Did anybody tell Osama, by the way. He really needs to know.

It doesn't matter what he says. Its like the scene in Wayne's World where Wayne realized the radio DJ isn't listening so he can say anything at all and the guy just says, Uh-huh, Uh-huh...Sure..OK...

355 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:02:04pm

re: #350 kansas

"ON THE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE OBAMA PASSED A LAW
...TO KEEP NUCLEAR WEAPONS OUT OF TERRORISTS' HANDS."

The use of CAPS LOCK in that ad is meant to appeal to shrieking lefty bloggers. Its their own special language.

356 tradewind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:03:53pm

re: #345 buzzsawmonkey

Down here that's code language for ' Democratic op who specializes in signing up dirt-napping voters '.

357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:07:17pm

I'm sad for the Middle East right now. Am reading about how 90 BILLION barrels of oil have been discovered in the Arctic. Whole bunch of it in Alaska.

That may be why oil is getting so expensive. The Arabs are using a lot of it for R&D on how to make food out of it.

Again, I am sad for them.

Let them eat sand!

358 Mars Needs Neocons  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:09:24pm

re: #347 Throbert McGee

lolre: #353 mich-again

Hey I have been one of them for several months. Now I have to find a job fast. (Been looking a year with no luck so I don't know what'll happen)

359 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:09:49pm

re: #357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Am reading about how 90 BILLION barrels of oil have been discovered in the Arctic.

Ice Road oil truckers!

360 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:11:11pm

re: #359 Mich-again

Heh!

361 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:13:24pm

re: #358 Mars Needs Neocons

Good luck. Theres something out there I'm sure.

362 Brigman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:17:05pm

Even with this outright pandering lie, do You think the MSM will report this at all? The power trip he is on is getting dangerous.

363 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:18:02pm

re: #357 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm sad for the Middle East right now. Am reading about how 90 BILLION barrels of oil have been discovered in the Arctic. Whole bunch of it in Alaska.

That may be why oil is getting so expensive. The Arabs are using a lot of it for R&D on how to make food out of it.

Again, I am sad for them.

Let them eat sand!

Russians have been staking claims to the Artic for a reason. This could get ugly.

364 DisturbedEma  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:18:34pm

re: #352 kansas

I wondered WTF he could have been talking about. Did anybody tell Osama, by the way. He really needs to know.

No, he is not on the list

365 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:20:18pm

re: #351 mich-again

If you dig into Obama's "law" to stop loose nuclear weapons from terrorists' hands, yu will see it is just a foreign aid package to give friendly nations willing to cooperate cash to secure loose conventional weapons. How do they enact that?

Well there you have it. Should is replaced with Shall and they closed the "Osama bin Laden loophole" in the existing non-proliferation law. Well that makes me feel safer..

Next Obama writes laws that make children clean their rooms, stops my dog from shedding and prevents garbage trucks from waking people up.
The man is awesome.

366 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:20:53pm

re: #356 tradewind

Down here that's code language for ' Democratic op who specializes in signing up dirt-napping voters '.

they do sign up to vote, anyone and everyone, likely to vote for them.
then they move on to seeking out an 'aggrieved' group of people. unemployed factory workers, lettuce pickers, residents in a 'bad' neighborhood. and agitate the hell out of them. so they picket and complain and raise hell at all levels of gov't. and seek redress for their predicaments from our elected officials, who often give in to stay in power. it's extortion and strong arm tactics. lots of times these complainers actually get money. especially from corporations. community organizers call that 'direct action'.
sharpton and jackson are pros as community organizers.
and they sure do get their cut of the money.

367 dervish8  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:24:08pm

This is not a gaffe. It's a LIE. A Senator knows if he is on the banking committee.

368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:32:58pm

re: #363 lifeofthemind

In the article (dunno if you read it), the place IVAN staked out has about 1.2% of the crude.

369 rabidfox  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:37:56pm

Obama's continued use of the term "we", combined with the phrase "we are going to require you to ..." plus his desire for a civilian force to match that of the military leads me to believe that we may have a Chavez in the making.

370 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:41:47pm

re: #368 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

In the article (dunno if you read it), the place IVAN staked out has about 1.2% of the crude.

Yes but we are at the opening moves of a new version of the Great Game. Canada is making moves to assert her sovereignty in the North, which can cause problems with the US view of innocent passage. Russia can profit immensely from this as the article makes clear. The biggest problem Russia faces is that the increasing corruption and decreasing adherence to Western standards for the rule of law discourage investment and entrepreneurial activity. We should start drilling, with environmental safeguards, in ANWAR and establish a robust presence up there.

371 hinduzionkafir  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 6:51:15pm

It is not the committee he once used to know.

372 chotii  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:15:35pm

Saw this today, and it's pretty telling:

[Link: www.ldnews.com...]

373 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 7:34:43pm

The last line pretty much sums up my opinion of him...

It is becoming increasingly apparent that Sen. Obama, the product of a corrupt Chicago political machine, is little more than the willing pawn of those who have manipulated his campaign success, a “useful idiot” who has accepted the Marxist, anti-Semitic philosophies espoused by his mentors while he mouths the vacuous promises of hope and change without ever admitting that he dances to the pull of the strings by his unnamed puppetmaster.
374 GeeWiz  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 8:05:11pm

re: #372 chotii

Good catch!

375 Dustyvet  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:21:00pm

Denver Officials Learn of House Being Used to Store Urine For Police Attacks During DNC Convention


[Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

376 good2geaux  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:50:11pm

"Can't I just eat my waffle!"

377 Jed  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:40:16am

If McCain said this it would be called a SENIOR moment.

Let's just call this a JUNIOR moment.

378 The Dajjal  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:13:22am

More and more we learn that the Great Messiah is turning out to be the Great Deceiver, someone who will say anything to get put in command of one of the most powerful military machines on the planet. Be afraid...

379 Tilly  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:06:27am

I don't know what is worse, that he just out right lied about being on the US Banking Committee or that he is actually on the the Homeland Security and Veteran Affairs Committees.....

Lets see if this makes the papers and MSM News....

380 eaglewingz08  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:11:30am

It's no wonder that the Obamanation hasn't held a single committee on Afghanistan, of which he is the subcommittee chair, what with his attending meetings of his real committee, Housing&Banking in the Senate, his other responsibilities somehow got lost. Or maybe, the Obamanation was busy sitting in the Housing & Banking Committee, instead of the Afghan subcommittee, wondering why no one allowed him to vote there? He probably ascribed it to the racist Repubs on the committee once again trying to deny African Americans their right to vote.

Or maybe this is another case of Obamegalomania. He is using the royal we, meaning, the Obamanation is a member of the Senate, so anything the Senate does, whether the Obamanation is present or not, whether he contributed to the bill or not, or even whether he voted for or against the bill (see, Surge, see Iranian Revolutionary Guards/AlQuds terrorist organization) if it now may affect his ability to become President, he will claim credit, because he was a member of the Senate when such a bill was passed. And it must be the case that these bills only passed, either with or without Obamanation's vote or support, because the Obamanation was in the Congress to begin with. So you see, the Obamanation can take credit for any bill pending in Congress simply because he is a member of Congress, and if you disagree with this proposition you are a racist, anti american, anti change/hope xenophobic, Bible thumping, gun clinging redneck.

381 jordash1212  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:05:24am

Committee membership [of Obama]:
Senate Committee on Foreign Relations;
Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions;
Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs;
Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs

[Link: maplight.org...]

382 nadadhimmi  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:21am

re: #46 Occasional Reader

False choice! Both are true.

He's stupid for thinking that he won't be caught in this lie. If he doesn't realize that everything he says will be parsed with a fine-tooth comb, that's stupid.
Anybody that reports on this is a racist and will get what's damn well coming to them. If they're lucky, it'll just be the re-education camp, if not, OTHER MEASURES, to protect the socialist norm you understand. Apostates from the faith of the Mess-iah will not be tolerated.

383 ShalomMets  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:27:34pm

As I understand it, he is not on the committee and opposed the law under discussion.

He is lying to an audience he thinks does not know the facts to present some false accomplishments in favor of Israel especially in light of his back-stabbing on Yerushalayim, his associations with pro-terrorist Arab groups in Chicago, etc...

I mentioned this lie to a friend of mine who supports Obamarama, and was told- "It's not lie, he didn't say he was on the committee, he just said it was his committee."

Huh?


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