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Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:27:04 pm PDT

I prefer the wicked rather than the foolish. The wicked sometimes rest.

Alexandre Dumas

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1 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:27:50pm

Stormy night in NYC tonight.

2 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:28:20pm

Scary lightning.

3 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:28:29pm

Well, said. I have known too many fools.

/and have been one myself on occassion.

4 jcw46  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:30:21pm

Waaiitt a minute. I always heard that "there's NO rest for the wicked".

5 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:31:26pm

re: #4 jcw46

Waaiitt a minute. I always heard that "there's NO rest for the wicked".

When aphorisms collide!

6 solomonpanting  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:32:16pm

Obama is portrayed as the new JFK. I wonder how he'd respond to a present-day Cuban crisis.

7 Carridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:33:43pm

Ah, well, with this, then, I 'Hi' and 'Bye!' and I'll be back as K.

Gotta go home and write some modules for ESL Saturday.

bbiaw
if the elasmosaurus doesn't get me outside the *ahem!* 'museum'...

8 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:33:48pm

re: #2 Tarkus289
We haven't had a decent t-storm here in a while. Of course when we get t-storms, usually no rain and then forest fires. East slope of Cascades, Wa state.

9 PSGInfinity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:33:53pm

Cool lightning tonight on the East Coast...

10 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:34:08pm

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

~C.S. Lewis

11 daledog  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:34:17pm

This could explain my preference for Hillary over Obama.

12 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:35:00pm

I think I would rather be governed by 100 people picked at random from the phone book than by our present Senate.

13 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:35:12pm

re: #10 Sharmuta
Sounds like the goddamn nanny state gov't the leftists want to foist on us.

14 paradox42  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:35:19pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

Great quote, where's it from?

15 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:35:58pm

It was a dark and stormy night .....
Much sound of crashing, breaking glass and an unexplained whirring noise.
Ahem, we regret to inform that this post has been canceled until good taste prevails.

16 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:36:05pm

re: #9 PSGInfinity

had a front row seat.and only one power hit to interupt the show.(had to go ck. all the equipt.)

17 SpartanWoman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:36:17pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

I do adore CS. He had some wonderful views on relativism too

18 Carridine  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:36:40pm

re: #14 paradox42

Great quote, where's it from?


From CS Lewis, I thimk...

19 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:37:01pm

re: #12 rawmuse

That sounds like an interesting form of governence.

20 Metal Man  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:37:06pm

“Children are innocent and love justice, while most adults are wicked and prefer mercy.”
G. K. Chesterton

21 PSGInfinity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:37:11pm

re: #16 Boondock St. Bender

had a front row seat.and only one power hit to interupt the show.(had to go ck. all the equipt.)

We had a power hit too. Wasn't here, looks like it was minor.

22 Cognito  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:38:37pm

re: #10 Sharmuta

Indeed.

23 PSGInfinity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:38:47pm

Thanks for having me, folks! Good Night!
(Although I may hang around for a little while)

24 pat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:39:45pm

"Don't worry about your heart, it will last you as long as you live."
W. C. Fields

25 Racer X  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:40:11pm

"Religion hinges upon faith, politics hinges upon who can tell the most convincing lies or maybe just shout the loudest, but science hinges upon whether its conclusions resemble what actually happens."
- Ian Stewart

27 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:41:27pm

re: #26 Typicalwhitey
That is bullshit!

28 haakondahl  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:41:30pm

Any lizards in the San Diego area? I'm actually in the States this week, and would love to meet up with anybody around. Thursday evening or possibly Friday evening is what (I think) I have available. I'll buy the beer.

29 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:41:40pm

re: #25 Racer X

as long as science does not become politicized.(great quote!by the by)

30 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:41:44pm

Didn't he help build the Western Wall?

31 nigella  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:41:45pm

"Obamas' a socialist and he will destroy the United States." - Nigella

32 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:42:17pm

re: #27 pingjockey

Think anyone will pick up on it?

33 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:42:50pm

re: #28 haakondahl
Be here early, like 6am PDT, Dorian Grey lives down there, don't know who else.

34 SpartanWoman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:42:54pm

re: #26 Typicalwhitey

Should he have his logo at the Western Wall?


This man is hateful!

35 K~Bob  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:43:40pm

Right now it's 60 degrees f. here, directly above the center of the Earth.
Which happens to be near Detroit. No storms. Beautiful sleeping weather.

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

36 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:43:44pm

re: #32 Typicalwhitey
Don't count on the msm. They're all swooning.

37 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:43:54pm

There was some kind of incident at the Wall, I suppose it was discussed earlier, but I only read the bottom of the last thread.

38 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:44:20pm

re: #33 pingjockey

dorian won't respond,unless you act interested in buying one of his cd's though.(just kidding dorian)

39 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:44:32pm

Drudge has: "Politics hits the Wall" as a headline....developing

40 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:44:46pm

re: #38 Boondock St. Bender
Heh!

41 K~Bob  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:45:02pm

re: #34 SpartanWoman

This man is hateful!

I'm surprised his campaign staff didn't ask if they could get a fresh coat of paint on the wall for Obama's photo op.

{ Assume, etc. }

42 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:45:04pm

re: #37 Tarkus289

Putting his logo there just seems incredibly tacky.

43 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:45:16pm

It has been developing for over an hour, I'm curious.

44 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:45:46pm

re: #37 Tarkus289
Some one was shouting "Israel isn't for sale". Haven't had the news on though.

45 Cognito  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:45:54pm

re: #39 Typicalwhitey

Drudge has: "Politics hits the Wall" as a headline....developing

Whoa. Now that is some hardcore pandering.

46 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:46:04pm

Running for President is pretty tacky too.

47 Racer X  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:46:06pm

C'mon everybody! Get up and Dance To The Music!

48 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:46:12pm

re: #42 Typicalwhitey

having a logo period seems tacky.

Hes a politician not Mcdonalds or Nike.

49 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:46:20pm

re: #21 PSGInfinity

We had a power hit too. Wasn't here, looks like it was minor.

Rolling power outs on So. Cal for about 4 hours. Sorta a blink/blink.
As an aside, I was woken up this morning about 7 by two Cobra helicopters transiting the coast. The sound is unmistakable. But I'm sure they circled my block just to wake me up.

50 JeremyR  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:46:26pm

"Always do right - this will gratify some and astonish the rest."
Mark Twain

51 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:46:26pm
52 paradox42  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:46:47pm

re: #42 Typicalwhitey

How dare you question the great, wise, and benevolent BO. HEATHEN! REPENT NOW!

/sarc^infinity

53 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:47:05pm

re: #45 Cognito
Well he had to do something to placate the liberal Jewish vote after talking to murdering savages.

54 nigella  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:47:06pm

Tarkus 289, as long as you aren't bi-curious. A snide reference to South Park!

55 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:47:06pm

re: #42 Typicalwhitey

Putting his logo there just seems incredibly tacky.

Especially when myobama.com is a virtual sanctuary for anti-Semites and holocaust deniers.

56 Cognito  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:47:14pm

re: #42 Typicalwhitey

Putting his logo there just seems incredibly tacky.

Worse than tacky. Cynical beyond belief.

I'm trying to think of a metaphor to describe the cynicism, but 'put his logo up at the Western Wall' pretty much defines the outer limit.

57 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:47:19pm

re: #52 paradox42

How dare you question the great, wise, and benevolent BO. HEATHEN! REPENT NOW!

/sarc^infinity


If McCain did this can you imaging the howls of protest from the MSM?

58 quiescent  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:47:38pm

maybe the obamesiah will make it all better


I dont think this is true, but maybe when he is elected the planets will align to point at his aura...


/see prior notes

59 SpartanWoman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:47:43pm

re: #48 pegcity

having a logo period seems tacky.

Hes a politician not Mcdonalds or Nike.

I disagree, he is indeed McDonalds or Nike or Taco Bell

60 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:47:51pm

re: #56 Cognito

your not even supposed to take pictures their let alone plaster your godamn stupid LOGO

61 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:47:51pm

re: #48 pegcity

lets hope this isn't the start of some disturbing new trend.

62 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:48:10pm

His arrogance is breathtaking!
The koskiddies are loving all his pics at the wall.
Puke.

63 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:48:52pm

re: #59 SpartanWoman

Hes a brand not a human.

He's got as much depth as a Starbucks phamplet on rainforests

64 Cognito  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:49:12pm

re: #60 pegcity

your not even supposed to take pictures their let alone plaster your godamn stupid LOGO

I thought the photo ban was only on the Sabbath?

The logo is still ridiculous, regardless.

65 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:49:12pm

If he does meet with ahmadinejad, will their halos interact and blind us all?

66 SpartanWoman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:50:02pm

re: #65 Tarkus289

If he does meet with ahmadinejad, will their halos interact and blind us all?

Hopefully they will interact and self-destruct

67 nigella  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:50:05pm

I'm beginning to think Obama is believing his own press.There is a possibility he may have gone overboard in his belief that he is the chosen one. Hopefully I'M right.

68 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:50:20pm

re: #64 Cognito

not sure, all i know is i got yelled at by a bunch of Hassids for taking pictures

69 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:50:21pm

waiting for the obama/halo photoshop.with the sun beaming down...and obama standing there as if he's the only reason it's there.

70 paradox42  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:50:23pm

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

Indeed. It would be known as the the howls heard 'round the world.

71 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:50:50pm

I wonder if this is his first protester. He is used to people swooning not criticizing.

72 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:51:15pm

A pic of him at the Wall
The caption at kos: This is deep, I am moved. By the diarist. Freakin hilarious!

73 Cognito  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:51:58pm

The people at the Wall aren't exactly a go-along-to-get-along sort of people. I suspect Obama had a harsh reception, there.

74 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:51:59pm

re: #72 Typicalwhitey

my god i have that exact same picture, so do i dunno millions of other people.

75 nigella  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:52:34pm

Typicalwhitey, I'm moved to.... to vomit!

76 K~Bob  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:52:41pm

Meanwhile, Obama's talking up the great contributions by "Mookie" hasn't caused the Iraqis to back off. Over in Diyala province, they are planning to move in on AQ and the Mahdi Army. 30,000 Iraqi soldiers. Go get 'em!

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

77 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:52:41pm

re: #74 pegcity

What?

78 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:52:57pm

That pic is so wrong.

79 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:53:20pm

re: #77 Typicalwhitey

a picture of me at the wall touching it, its not really that special everyone who vists takes the same picture.

80 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:53:28pm

re: #4 jcw46

Waaiitt a minute. I always heard that "there's NO rest for the wicked".

Well, since when do the wicked follow the rules?

81 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:53:58pm

re: #78 Tarkus289
From the looks of some of the blogs on his website, I am sure that left a little burn circle on his head!

82 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:54:03pm

Obambi is flatulent in many languages.

83 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:55:33pm

re: #28 haakondahl

Any lizards in the San Diego area? I'm actually in the States this week, and would love to meet up with anybody around. Thursday evening or possibly Friday evening is what (I think) I have available. I'll buy the beer.

I'm here, but not available on those days? In town for ComiCon?

84 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:55:53pm

re: #65 Tarkus289
what happens when two idiotarians come together? Is like matter and anti-matter? :)

85 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:55:55pm

re: #81 Typicalwhitey

They'll give him a pass.

86 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:56:13pm
Dem presidential hopeful Barack Obama, during a stop in Israel, in sisted that the U.S. hold direct talks with Iran, saying he would use “big sticks and big carrots” to persuade the country’s leaders not to develop nuclear weapons.

What a foreign policy genius.

/good thinking to hold the "massively ginormous sticks and the gigantically humongous carrots" in reserve

87 SpartanWoman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:56:48pm

re: #84 pingjockey

what happens when two idiotarians come together? Is like matter and anti-matter? :)

It certainly could be!

Live long and prosper Pingjockey

88 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:57:07pm

re: #86 Killian Bundy
Big frakkin' sticks yes. No damn veggies though.

89 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:57:20pm

1 milligram carrot.
15 megaton Stick.

90 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:57:29pm

Good background music... Weezer's new song Everybody Get Dangerous

"Some of my friends did,
They were all just a little bit wicked."

91 Racer X  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:57:43pm

re: #76 K~Bob

Iraqi security forces are massing more than 30,000 soldiers and police for an upcoming operation against al Qaeda and the Mahdi Army in the eastern province of Diyala, according to police and military officials.

The operation, which was expected to be launched this week, has been scheduled to kick off on August 1, an anonymous senior Iraqi military officer told AFP. "The operation is aimed at cleansing the region of insurgents, al Qaeda and militias who are still there," the officer said.


Gee, does anyone really think this is going to be a success now that an "anonymous senior Iraqi military officer" has spilled the beans to the media?

Hey, where did they all go?

92 Typicalwhitey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:57:54pm
93 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:58:04pm

re: #87 SpartanWoman
Thank you. May your dilithium crystalbe fruitful.

94 nigella  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:58:10pm

Big sticks and big carrots....is that like a strongly worded letter from the UN?

95 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:58:23pm

re: #89 Tarkus289

screw the carrots, give up your nukes or you will see what it was like living in the 7th century you so worship.

96 Throbert McGee  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 9:58:43pm

Although I labor without cease
At Dumas père and Dumas fils,
Alas, I simply do not care
For Dumas fils or Dumas père.
-- Dorothy Parker

(I always have to look it up, but Jr. is best known for Camille, and Sr. for The Three Musketeers and The Count of Monte Cristo.)

97 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:00:13pm

re: #96 Throbert McGee
Ok, whatinhell is that avatar?

98 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:00:48pm

Obama incorrectly claims membership of Senate committee

Yeah opps.

CNN what a bunch of turds

99 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:03:29pm

re: #83 CyanSnowHawk

I'm here, but not available on those days?

? Huh? What the hell did I do that for?

100 haakondahl  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:03:42pm

re: #83 CyanSnowHawk

I'm here, but not available on those days? In town for ComiCon?

No, it's work. Sorry you can't make it. Lemme know if you can do it.

101 slokat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:04:33pm

Ok, (this might have been posted, didn't see it) the Govenator decided to rattle the cages of the state employees union - state employees to be paid minimum wage until budget approved.

102 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:05:21pm

re: #67 nigella

I'm beginning to think Obama is believing his own press.There is a possibility he may have gone overboard in his belief that he is the chosen one. Hopefully I'M right.

Here's hoping that this backfires on him, big time.

103 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:05:50pm

re: #101 slokat
That is gonna cause an uproar. :)

104 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:06:05pm

re: #102 CyanSnowHawk

the Media does love to build people up only to tear em down.

But this time who knows.

105 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:06:11pm

Good lightning storms earlier tonight in the NC outer banks. But they've moved north.

106 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:06:19pm
107 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:06:47pm

re: #104 pegcity
The media is too heavily invested in the obambi to tear him down.

108 jcw46  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:07:34pm

Could Obama be the hidden imam?

109 Da_Beerfreak  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:08:54pm

re: #86 Killian Bundy

What a foreign policy genius.

/good thinking to hold the "massively ginormous sticks and the gigantically humongous carrots" in reserve

Didn't Carter try that?
IIRC it almost got him eaten by a rabbit.
// {;-)™

110 Cartman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:08:54pm

Finally a new thread, and I'm to pooped to post. Seems to be going that way as of late. Prime Time LGF used to be informatively diverse and fun, but not so much lately. Hopefully, this too shall pass.

111 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:09:22pm

re: #106 rawmuse
Anything done or said against obambi will be labeled racist. No free speech against the chosen one. Gaaaaaah!

112 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:09:47pm

re: #108 jcw46

Could Obama be the hidden imam?

You give him too much credit. Obama is not the problem. He's an empty suit. His controllers are who we need to fear.

113 RTLM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:10:06pm

Obama rides a V-22 from Ramadi to Amman.
[Link: www.defensetech.org...]

Why? When he had his gleaming 757 sitting at Baghdad Int'l Airport.

114 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:10:07pm

re: #96 Throbert McGee

Devolution!

(I much prefer pere.)

115 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:10:11pm

re: #108 jcw46
Is he wet? Did he just climb out of a well?

116 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:10:41pm

re: #51 cutestguy

But he is the Messiah! The Lord of Lords and Host of Hosts! Such a fitting place to put it!

/yeesh!

I'm surprised he didn't pledge to personally rebuild the Temple. Yeesh.

117 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:10:55pm

re: #104 pegcity

the Media does love to build people up only to tear em down.

But this time who knows.

It's so hard to read just what they are doing here, but I like that thought pegcity. It brings to mind a line from Dune, "Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even god has never seen."

118 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:11:04pm

re: #91 Racer X

Gee, does anyone really think this is going to be a success now that an "anonymous senior Iraqi military officer" has spilled the beans to the media?

Hey, where did they all go?

This is how third world, particularly Arab military or police forces operate. Arrange a big show for the visiting Americans. Make lots of loud noises and be sure the troops look inspection ready. Somehow though the word always gets out and the targets slip away. Remember the Americans will one day leave and everyone else will remain. Nobody wants to get caught up in a blood feud. Besides everyone is really related to some degree and you can't hurt your Uncles Cousins Nephews In Laws Niece's husband. If that fails everyone is a Muslim and protected (except for the few who are not and who are targets). Like with canine packs a leader's aggression is used to compel signs of submission after which the threat recedes. Saddam violated this rule by actually going after people and communities. In that he showed himself more a student of the secular soviets than of the religious tribal culture of Iraq. AQI also violated the expected standard and lost the tribes.

119 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:11:22pm

re: #116 Pawn of the Oppressor
Cripes! Don't give him more ideas for pandering.

120 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:11:49pm

i remember when the media was convinced they had a kerry win in the bag as well.

The media loves to think they speak for all americans

121 paradox42  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:11:54pm

Well, its getting late here in NY so I'm gonna have to sign off. Later lizards.

122 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:12:00pm

re: #110 Cartman

Seems to be going that way as of late.

Pick your spots bro. Your opinion is much appreciated.

123 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:13:48pm

re: #120 pegcity

i remember when the media was convinced they had a kerry win in the bag as well.

The media loves to think they speak for all americans

Sounds more like the unguarded thoughts that sneak out of our mouths when exceptionally inebriated.

124 Cartman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:14:45pm

re: #122 Mich-again

Thanks Mich, but the spots (topics) to pick from seem to grow fewer and farther between, at least for me.

125 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:15:18pm

re: #123 CyanSnowHawk

Bar talk

"Yeah id so do Obama, hes so hot"

"Um Katie were live on the Air"

126 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:17:09pm
127 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:17:57pm

re: #9 PSGInfinity
Well some of that cool lightning hit a car in our parking lot, literally no more than about 75 feet from our ground floor apartement! The sound - BLAST actually, and the smell was astounding.
But even more astounding is that Duke Power kept the power going!

128 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:18:05pm

Despite Ben Stein's unpopularity here at LGF of late, I enjoyed his visit to Glenn Beck tonight. He was very quick to compare the giant 75,000 person stadium coronation of Emperor Obama with a classic '40s fascist rally, something I haven't heard outside the blogs before.

129 hermeneutics  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:18:25pm

Have you noticed that the fawning journalists travelling with Obama cannot be heard? The questions they ask him aren't heard -- just his answers. Listeners, then, cannot tell if he really answered the question.

130 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:19:34pm

re: #126 rawmuse
Ted for VP!

131 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:20:22pm

re: #129 hermeneutics

Does the messiah permit questions?

132 K~Bob  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:20:45pm

re: #91 Racer X

Gee, does anyone really think this is going to be a success now that an "anonymous senior Iraqi military officer" has spilled the beans to the media?

Hey, where did they all go?

AQ and Mahdi guys drug their asses to Diyala to avoid getting killed in Sadr City and elsewhere. Iraqi Army isn't just lining up in Diyala at some starting line. They have undoubtedly cordoned off the area, and the locals (who hate both groups) will let 'em know where to go. They also have other assets in play. The Iraqi army is actually getting good at this stuff.

{ Assume, etc. }

133 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:20:46pm

re: #128 Lizard by the Bay
I like Ben. He just went off the rails a bit.

134 hermeneutics  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:21:45pm

re: #118 lifeofthemind

This is how third world, particularly Arab military or police forces operate. Arrange a big show for the visiting Americans. Make lots of loud noises and be sure the troops look inspection ready. Somehow though the word always gets out and the targets slip away. Remember the Americans will one day leave and everyone else will remain. Nobody wants to get caught up in a blood feud. Besides everyone is really related to some degree and you can't hurt your Uncles Cousins Nephews In Laws Niece's husband. If that fails everyone is a Muslim and protected (except for the few who are not and who are targets). Like with canine packs a leader's aggression is used to compel signs of submission after which the threat recedes. Saddam violated this rule by actually going after people and communities. In that he showed himself more a student of the secular soviets than of the religious tribal culture of Iraq. AQI also violated the expected standard and lost the tribes.

This is one of the most culturally insightful explanations I have read ... "the leader's aggression is used to compet signs of submission."

135 slokat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:22:51pm

I'm off to do other things, here's a macro shot taken this morning while trying to show one of my clients (building related not photo related) why I own different lenses. (Of course, now she's jonesing for a macro lens) Purpleness

'night all!

136 Archimedes  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:22:55pm

re: #4 jcw46

re: #4 jcw46

Waaiitt a minute. I always heard that "there's NO rest for the wicked".

I think that means that the wicked must always look over their back to protect themselves from being caught by those they have harmed, which is true.

Whereas the other one means that in performing wicked acts they occasionally take a respite, although I'm not sure if this is true.

So, perhaps they can co-exist.

137 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:23:12pm

re: #110 Cartman Hey Cartman my friend - don't sweat it, sometimes ya get a thread you really want to dig into, sometimes you get a thread that you just by-pass or read.
It's just happenstance which one ya get!

138 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:23:36pm

re: #113 RTLM

Obama rides a V-22 from Ramadi to Amman.
[Link: www.defensetech.org...]

Why? When he had his gleaming 757 sitting at Baghdad Int'l Airport.

/much better photo op

139 JeremyR  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:23:46pm

re: #108 jcw46

Could Obama be the hidden imam?

About as much chance of that as him being the antiChrist.

140 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:24:32pm

re: #138 Killian Bundy

i thought Obama hate new combat systems and wants america to fight with Sporks

141 jcw46  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:24:51pm

re: #139 JeremyR

About as much chance of that as him being the antiChrist.

That's what? Fifty-fifty?

142 SpartanWoman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:25:13pm

re: #139 JeremyR

About as much chance of that as him being the antiChrist.

Especially since the two are synonymous

143 hermeneutics  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:25:26pm

re: #135 slokat

I'm off to do other things, here's a macro shot taken this morning while trying to show one of my clients (building related not photo related) why I own different lenses. (Of course, now she's jonesing for a macro lens) Purpleness

'night all!

I have no idea what a macro lens is, but your image of a flower is beautiful. Thanks for sharing it, Slo.

Bees would get pollen from that flower, you know!

Good nighty.

144 K~Bob  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:25:27pm

re: #118 lifeofthemind

This is how third world, particularly Arab military or police forces operate. Arrange a big show for the visiting Americans. Make lots of loud noises and be sure the troops look inspection ready. Somehow though the word always gets out and the targets slip away. Remember the Americans will one day leave and everyone else will remain. Nobody wants to get caught up in a blood feud. Besides everyone is really related to some degree and you can't hurt your Uncles Cousins Nephews In Laws Niece's husband. If that fails everyone is a Muslim and protected (except for the few who are not and who are targets). Like with canine packs a leader's aggression is used to compel signs of submission after which the threat recedes. Saddam violated this rule by actually going after people and communities. In that he showed himself more a student of the secular soviets than of the religious tribal culture of Iraq. AQI also violated the expected standard and lost the tribes.

This wasn't billed as secret. They had planned this as soon as they knew that's where the Mahdi leftovers were headed. The Iraqi army doesn't need to be secretive on big ops like this.

{ Assume the mop up is in progress. This is good news, folks. }

145 jcw46  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:26:07pm

re: #136 Archimedes

I alway thought it meant that the wicked had a lot to do and little time to do it in.

146 hermeneutics  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:26:32pm

re: #131 pegcity

Does the messiah permit questions?

Only staged questions. His answers may not correspond to the questions. We don't know.

147 JeremyR  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:26:37pm

re: #141 jcw46

That's what? Fifty-fifty?

re: #142 SpartanWoman

Especially since the two are synonymous

I guess Spartanwoman answered it for me ;-)

148 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:26:58pm

re: #139 JeremyR
I thought that the the hidden imam WAS the AntiChrist?!

149 slokat  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:27:10pm

re: #137 realwest

RealW - bit any spoons today? Remember, there is no spoon...
/
Actually, hope some one pulls, fixes, bonds, whatever your tooth soon!

...now I'm gone, for tonight. bye!

150 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:27:16pm

re: #128 Lizard by the Bay

Despite Ben Stein's unpopularity here at LGF of late, I enjoyed his visit to Glenn Beck tonight. He was very quick to compare the giant 75,000 person stadium coronation of Emperor Obama with a classic '40s fascist rally, something I haven't heard outside the blogs before.

Ben's support of that one issue does not really take away from his righteousness on many others. I was disappointed about "Expelled", but still believe he has his head on straight regarding politics and economics. And it doesn't hurt that my wife took $600 of his money.

151 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:27:35pm

re: #148 realwestI thought the hidden imam was in a well?

152 jcw46  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:28:11pm

re: #142 SpartanWoman

Especially since the two are synonymous

Really? Hmmm, that's not how I've understood what I've read about both. Of course it would depend on the POV.

153 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:28:12pm

re: #150 CyanSnowHawk

your wife was on the Show?

crazy

154 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:28:22pm

Man, if I was on a Magical Messianic Mystery Tour of the Middle East I'd be totally stoked to ride in an Osprey.

"Hey you guys like this thing? Can we go faster? I wanna try out the door guns... Hell with it, can we go shoot up some Al Queda types? You guys know where the terrorists are, we can ditch the reporters and go tear some shit up, I promise I won't tell..."

155 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:28:24pm

I've been in this country since 1970 and I have never seen anything like the MSM's fawning over Obama.
I've seen plenty of bias. I've seen overt partisanship.
But nothing like this.

Creepy.

156 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:28:26pm

re: #26 Typicalwhitey

Should he have his logo at the Western Wall?

Ohfercryinoutloud!

Is there an old proverb about hubris? Pride comes before the fall?

I'm shocked. Although by this point, I shouldn't be.

157 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:28:41pm

re: #148 realwest

I thought that the the hidden imam WAS the AntiChrist?!

I thought the hidden imam was a childrens book, along the lines of "Where's Waldo."

158 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:28:59pm

re: #149 slokat Hey slokat thanks for the good wishes, but thanks even more for the beautiful photo you posted in #135.

159 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:29:36pm

re: #155 wolfie

and people wonder why leftists are so quick to allow these nutcases to become dicatators, because at the end of the day leftards love being told what to do.

Thinking doesn't agree with them.

160 K~Bob  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:29:58pm

re: #151 pingjockey

I thought the hidden imam was in a well?

I think "ah, well" occurred a lot in that compilation (Rush) showcasing Obama's stammerin' and stutterin'.

161 JeremyR  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:30:26pm

re: #148 realwest

I thought that the the hidden imam WAS the AntiChrist?!

See? Obama has as much chance of being the hidden imam as he does of being the antiChrist. Smooth words, people follow him in spite of his message.

162 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:30:35pm

re: #155 wolfie 1970?
That's the year I got out of the Army and started Law School! Where didja come from?

163 Macker  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:30:46pm

Hello fellow Lizards!
Well, it is time.
Tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM Pacific Time, I sit for the Series 7 Exam. I've toted around this big 600-page study guide since the end of January, and for over four months I've studies my ass off and fried some brain cells over the sheer amount of stuff I've had to absorb.
Now I get to see whether I remember 70% of it, for that's the score I have to get to pass.
What more can I say. It is time. Wish me luck.

164 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:31:38pm

re: #160 K~Bob
Hahaha, There was what, 7 minutes of that uh, um, crap. The man cannot speak off the cuff.

165 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:31:50pm

re: #2 Tarkus289

Scary lightning.

Now it's here in New Hampshire.

166 jcw46  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:31:52pm

If he goes to Samarra, I'm headin' for the hills.

167 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:32:12pm

re: #163 Macker

good luck, im writing my Canadian securities course test on Aug 6.

I heard the series 7 is tough, you need what a 75 to pass vs a 60 on the CSC.

168 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:32:21pm

re: #153 pegcity

your wife was on the Show?

crazy

The very first episode they taped with Nancy as the co-host. It wasn't shown on schedule, but eventually made it to air. I was in the audience and Ben called me up to meet him after the taping when my wife pointed me out. Very nice guy in person.

169 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:32:56pm

re: #163 Macker
Good luck!

170 WitchDoctor  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:33:09pm

booga booga I believe in Intelligent Design, booga booga

171 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:33:22pm

re: #159 pegcity

and people wonder why leftists are so quick to allow these nutcases to become dicatators, because at the end of the day leftards love being told what to do.

Thinking doesn't agree with them.

You've got a point there.
But, Lord, it is a creepy thing to behold.

172 hermeneutics  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:33:25pm

re: #155 wolfie

I've been in this country since 1970 and I have never seen anything like the MSM's fawning over Obama.
I've seen plenty of bias. I've seen overt partisanship.
But nothing like this.

Creepy.

I totally agree with you, Wolfie. Regarding the print media, though, maybe it is their last, big hope of relevance. If they can swing an election, then maybe they aren't as culturally insignificant as their circulation numbers suggest.

173 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:33:30pm

re: #168 CyanSnowHawk

thats so cool

174 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:33:43pm

re: #167 pegcity

Best of luck on that peg. It took me two tries to get it here in Ontario. Busted a lobe studying for the second try.

/55% first time 62% second.
//a pass is a pass.

175 jcw46  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:34:19pm

re: #170 WitchDoctor

booga booga I believe in Intelligent Design, booga booga

Hey! It's the booga man.

176 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:34:21pm

re: #170 WitchDoctor
Stop it. Go to previous thread. Do not pass go. Get whacked by Mandy.

177 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:34:22pm

re: #159 pegcity
Yup, hence their propensity to wish for the Nanny State. You see evidence of it EVERYWHERE. No one will take personal responsibility for ANYTHING if they are Leftists (and frankly a surprising amount of Rightists fall into the same "it's not my fault" verbiage.
What the hell ever happened to the idea that I am (assuming one is a legal "adult") responsible for my own actions/inactions/words/silence?

178 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:34:27pm

re: #144 K~Bob

This wasn't billed as secret. They had planned this as soon as they knew that's where the Mahdi leftovers were headed. The Iraqi army doesn't need to be secretive on big ops like this.

{ Assume the mop up is in progress. This is good news, folks. }

Agreed, this is the good news mop up.

The purpose is to clean up and establish control more than to actually corner and kill specific Mahdists. If any insist on remaining and becoming martyrs then that will be their choice.

Thank you to hermeneutics for the kind words and good night all.

179 K~Bob  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:34:33pm

re: #163 Macker


Wish me luck.

May you pass the exam with flying colors, and go on to become a wealthy citizen!

180 hermeneutics  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:34:34pm

re: #163 Macker

Hello fellow Lizards!
Well, it is time.
Tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM Pacific Time, I sit for the Series 7 Exam. I've toted around this big 600-page study guide since the end of January, and for over four months I've studies my ass off and fried some brain cells over the sheer amount of stuff I've had to absorb.
Now I get to see whether I remember 70% of it, for that's the score I have to get to pass.
What more can I say. It is time. Wish me luck.

My best to you, Macker. No one will care, after you pass, if you got a 70 or a 100, so just pass ... okay?

181 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:34:37pm
182 Macker  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:34:43pm

70% to pass here.

183 JeremyR  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:35:22pm

re: #156 Spiny Norman

Ohfercryinoutloud!

Is there an old proverb about hubris? Pride comes before the fall?

I'm shocked. Although by this point, I shouldn't be.

Suggest reading Mathew 24. When you see the Obama nation of Desolation standing in the holy place.....

184 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:35:46pm

re: #172 hermeneutics

i really fear for America if this guy wins, i think it will tear the country apart.

At least Bush was leader of a massive state and had experience, i wouldn't trust Obama to run a dairy queen.

185 Macker  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:35:49pm

re: #181 cutestguy

There's a Shakespeare quote (at least I think its the Bard) that says,

"Whom Gods destroy, they first make mad."

Obama is frakkin' nuts. Really.

There, fixed that for ya!

186 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:36:23pm
187 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:36:27pm

re: #162 realwest

1970?
That's the year I got out of the Army and started Law School! Where didja come from?

Bolivia! I came up here to go to college when I was sixteen.

(Which is mighty strange since I am only 39 ! cough...cough )

188 jcw46  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:36:37pm

re: #184 pegcity

i really fear for America if this guy wins, i think it will tear the country apart.

At least Bush was leader of a massive state and had experience, i wouldn't trust Obama to run a dairy queen.

Or BE a dairy queen.

189 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:36:52pm

See you all or some of you all in the morning. Night all.

190 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:37:39pm

re: #163 Macker

I wish you good luck, though I believe you will not need LUCk at all!
May you be steady and clear-eyed!

191 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:37:59pm

re: #184 pegcity

i really fear for America if this guy wins, i think it will tear the country apart.

At least Bush was leader of a massive state and had experience, i wouldn't trust Obama to run a dairy queen.

America is tougher than that. An Obama win will cost us, but the Republic will survive. We do that, we're Americans.

192 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:38:09pm

re: #155 wolfie

I've been in this country since 1970 and I have never seen anything like the MSM's fawning over Obama.
I've seen plenty of bias. I've seen overt partisanship.
But nothing like this.

Creepy.

The fact that it is so over-the-top will turn off far more voters than it will attract. And that seems to be borne out: 49% think the Media is working to elect Obama

Oh, and this (because the subhead is hilarious):

Media in love with Obama?
Recent polls, McCain agree: Press is twitterpated

Twitterpated.

LMAO!

193 hermeneutics  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:38:24pm

re: #184 pegcity

i really fear for America if this guy wins, i think it will tear the country apart.

At least Bush was leader of a massive state and had experience, i wouldn't trust Obama to run a dairy queen.

One can only hope, if he wins, that he's hampered by ordinary Americans who give him a resounding defeat, first in two years at the 2010 Congressional election, and then in 2012, when he seeks reelection. I can't imagine he'll do well enough in office to fool the majority of ordinary Americans.

194 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:38:30pm

re: #174 BlueCanuck

Best of luck on that peg. It took me two tries to get it here in Ontario. Busted a lobe studying for the second try.

/55% first time 62% second.
//a pass is a pass.

im doing it with Edward jones and they basically tell you exactly what's on the tests. We have alot of review tests and summerized notes cause that CSC book is so dense and impossible to know what the hell there talking about.

The damn Income statements and Balance sheets are killers though.

Did you do your IFIC?

195 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:39:05pm

re: #163 Macker
Hey Macker - GOOD LUCK! Though you won't need it if you've studied so hard!
Best wishes, anyway!

196 hermeneutics  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:39:35pm

re: #192 Spiny Norman

twitterpated = worshipful.

And on that horrible note, good nighty all Lizards. Take care of yourselves.

197 Metal Man  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:40:26pm

re: #163 Macker

I'll wish you luck and confidence on your upcoming test. If you know it you will pass but second guessing that knowledge can bring you down.

198 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:40:28pm

re: #184 pegcity

i really fear for America if this guy wins, i think it will tear the country apart.

At least Bush was leader of a massive state and had experience, i wouldn't trust Obama to run a dairy queen.

If I could vote for GB again I would, so many people think he is stupid but I do not see him like that at all.

199 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:40:54pm

re: #194 pegcity

im doing it with Edward jones and they basically tell you exactly what's on the tests. We have alot of review tests and summerized notes cause that CSC book is so dense and impossible to know what the hell there talking about.

The damn Income statements and Balance sheets are killers though.

Did you do your IFIC?

Yeah, I did. Just waiting to activate my liscence now. I ignored the Income and balance sheets on my second attempt. Focused on a couple sections like types of funds and descriptions, personal responsibilty, and two others. That was enough to push me over the top.

200 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:40:55pm

re: #196 hermeneutics

twitterpated = worshipful.

And on that horrible note, good nighty all Lizards. Take care of yourselves.

I know what it means, but I've always thought it was a funny word. I just hadn't heard (read) it in years.

201 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:41:02pm

re: #192 Spiny Norman

The fact that it is so over-the-top will turn off far more voters than it will attract. And that seems to be borne out: 49% think the Media is working to elect Obama

Oh, and this (because the subhead is hilarious):

Media in love with Obama?
Recent polls, McCain agree: Press is twitterpated

Twitterpated.

LMAO!

Thanks for those links and your post. (And not just because it makes me feel more optimistic!)

202 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:41:15pm

re: #193 hermeneutics

The fact it's come this far is like some bad graphic novel.

The truth truly is stranger than fiction.

And thats what Obama is fiction.

203 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:41:47pm

re: #198 BBev

Hes not dumb, just a lousy speaker, but at least he can go 20 seconds without UH UH UH UH

204 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:42:52pm

re: #199 BlueCanuck

i think im gonna ignore it as well, skip em and come back to em if i have time.

Any tips on the test, are there lots of YTM questions?

205 jcw46  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:43:01pm

re: #196 hermeneutics

twitterpated = worshipful.

And on that horrible note, good nighty all Lizards. Take care of yourselves.

twitterpated = besotted?

206 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:43:29pm

re: #196 hermeneutics

twitterpated = worshipful.

And on that horrible note, good nighty all Lizards. Take care of yourselves.


A delightful word it is! Goodnight, hermie!

207 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:44:22pm

re: #172 hermeneutics
Respectfully, the day when the print media could swing an election passed with the coming of CNN - not because CNN was, well, the Communist News Network, but because the arrival of CNN on the scene meant that other visual medial had to get going themselves, with more hours devoted to news than entertainment (though in politics one can easily make the argument that that was an easy switch).
Seriously, I'm beggining to doubt the Visual Media's ability to swing an election, especially THIS coming election. I know a lot of folks say they haven't made up their minds, but frankly I think they are lying through their teeth.

208 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:45:00pm

re: #203 pegcity

Hes not dumb, just a lousy speaker, but at least he can go 20 seconds without UH UH UH UH

The difference between Bush and Obama is that Bush has the answer he wants to give, he's just not good at conveying it. Obama has to go "uh uh uh" for half a minute because it takes him time to make up new bullshit.

209 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:45:00pm

re: #203 pegcity

Hes not dumb, just a lousy speaker, but at least he can go 20 seconds without UH UH UH UH

He is better then that he has protected America from any new attacks and has brought the war to the ones that want to kill us

210 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:46:01pm

re: #179 K~Bob

May you pass the exam with flying colors, and go on to become a wealthy citizen!

And then become my bestest friend!
LOL!

211 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:46:18pm

re: #207 realwest

when it comes down to it i think americans need security, and they know in their hearts this moron will destroy that, just remeber there have been no mass terrorist attacks in the US since 911, yes isolate incidents but under Obama who the hell knows, id give it a week

212 RTLM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:46:19pm

Pack of (30) giant Russian bears kill and eat 2 Russians.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

A pack of enormous bears searching for food killed and ate two men at mines in Russia’s Pacific Kamchatka region and have kept hundreds of geologists and miners from reaching the mine, news agencies reported Wednesday.
A pack of up to 30 Kamchatka bears—which are similar to grizzlies—prowled around two mines of a local platinum mining company where they killed the two guards on Thursday, local officials were quoted by the Russian ITAR-Tass news agency as saying. About 400 company workers have refused to return to the mines for fear of the bears, which stand 10 feet tall on their hind legs and weigh up to 1,500 pounds, Interfax reported.

About 10 bears have also been seen near the village of Khailino sniffing fish remains and other garbage.

Village official Viktor Leushkin was quoted by ITAR-Tass as saying that a team of hunters will be dispatched to shoot or chase off the bears.
“These predators have to be destroyed,” Leushkin was quoted as saying. “Once they kill a human, they will do it again and again.”

Rampant fish poaching in the Kamchatka tundra often forces the bears to seek other sources of food, such as garbage. Bears frequently attack humans in the scarcely populated peninsula region.

/Now THAT is irony

213 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:46:59pm

re: #193 hermeneutics

One can only hope, if he wins, that he's hampered by ordinary Americans who give him a resounding defeat, first in two years at the 2010 Congressional election, and then in 2012, when he seeks reelection. I can't imagine he'll do well enough in office to fool the majority of ordinary Americans.

The Clintons' overreach led directly to the GOP winning control of the House for the first time in 40 years.

The question is: how much damage could Barry do in 2 years?

I guessing a lot. Even though McCain is a Big Government "moderate" Republican and could give us plenty of nonsense (Amnesty?), those 2 years of "free rein" is a risk we can't afford.

214 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:47:29pm

re: #211 pegcity

when it comes down to it i think americans need security, and they know in their hearts this moron will destroy that, just remeber there have been no mass terrorist attacks in the US since 911, yes isolate incidents but under Obama who the hell knows, id give it a week

Think Jimmy Carter

215 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:48:06pm

re: #187 wolfie Bolivia, really? WOW! Let's pass on that math issue, I just want to know if you ever visited the place where Butch and Sundance met their fate?!?

216 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:49:02pm

re: #214 BBev


well who knows without Carter then maybe there wouldn't have been Reagan, but i still think America and the world didn't need mr Peanut.

217 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:49:20pm

*I'm*

PIMFitty, PIMF, PIMF.

218 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:49:42pm
219 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:53:05pm

re: #213 Spiny Norman

The Clintons' overreach led directly to the GOP winning control of the House for the first time in 40 years.

The question is: how much damage could Barry do in 2 years?

I guessing a lot. Even though McCain is a Big Government "moderate" Republican and could give us plenty of nonsense (Amnesty?), those 2 years of "free rein" is a risk we can't afford.

Don't forget, as far as Dems go, Bubba was fairly central, and in his first two years he had a Congress led by an old guard Dem (Gephardt). The first two years of the most radical socialist ever in the White House aided by a Nancy Pelosi Congress is an untold disaster of epic proportions. San Francisco values will become American values, and the country we love could cease to exist. That is no exaggeration, much as I wish it were.

220 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:53:10pm

re: #216 pegcity

well who knows without Carter then maybe there wouldn't have been Reagan, but i still think America and the world didn't need mr Peanut.

Um, not likely. Reagan nearly beat Ford in the primaries and made a big impression in the process (I was old enough to notice). Even if Ford had beaten Carter, Reagan would have been elected in 1980, regardless.

You're absolutely right about something, though: the world certainly did not need deserve Mr Peanut.

221 Lizard by the Bay  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:53:37pm

PIMF: central = centrist

222 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:53:39pm

re: #209 BBev Hi BBev - great Post!
It's sorta ironic that, because Bush carried the fight to the enemy, never gave them any respite and pretty much shut down all of their hiding places and sanctuaries from which they would otherwise have recruited, trained, armed and then been able to coordinate attacks such as 9/11, most people now don't think terrorism is a threat to us.

223 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:55:06pm

re: #214 BBev

Think Jimmy Carter

Great. I was just going to say g'nite and sweet dreams to all the lizards, and now I will have images of Carter the Jew hater spinning round in my head!

I will apply some brain bleach, and if it doesn't help, I will seek you and find you! ;)

224 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:55:19pm

re: #216 pegcity

well who knows without Carter then maybe there wouldn't have been Reagan, but i still think America and the world didn't need mr Peanut.

I remember the 70's very well and I never want to live those times again. In the 70's there were the people that were saying how we could not do something and I'm am there person that says how we can do something, I do not want to live it again.

225 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:56:38pm

re: #219 Lizard by the Bay

Don't forget, as far as Dems go, Bubba was fairly central, and in his first two years he had a Congress led by an old guard Dem (Gephardt). The first two years of the most radical socialist ever in the White House aided by a Nancy Pelosi Congress is an untold disaster of epic proportions. San Francisco values will become American values, and the country we love could cease to exist. That is no exaggeration, much as I wish it were.

A bit of a quibble: during the election campaign he portrayed himself that way, but once in office, he lurched back to the Left (HillaryCare, anyone?)

It was a GOP Congress that forced his triangulating self back to the Center.

226 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:57:00pm

Army may go unpaid as sanctions dry up supply of paper for Zimbabwe banknotes

The Zimbabwean government is struggling to find enough cash to pay its workers, and more importantly the military, after it was forced to cut back on printing money because sanctions have severed its supply of banknote paper from Europe.

Officials involved in the printing say the regime fears the presses could be shut down altogether if further political pressure causes the withdrawal of software licences used to design and print notes.

Paper money is already in short supply because the state-run Fidelity Printers & Refiners in the capital, Harare, cannot keep up with demand created by the hyperinflation and rapid devaluation that causes notes to lose almost their entire value within weeks of being issued.

/ruh roh

227 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:58:21pm

re: #211 pegcity Well I've said this before out here and never received a single upding, but I'm gonna say it again - I firmly beleive, regardless of the polls and the media, that the "average" American, once in the solitude of the voting booth, will pull the lever for the candidate whom they trust the most.
Obviously there are exceptions: Dems who will always vote Dem, Repubs who'll always vote Repub and the like and this year Blacks will vote more than 90% for Obama - he's the first and may be the last chance they have to see a Black POTUS and frankly, as terrible as Obama is, I understand Black Americans voting for him. But the rest of the great masses will vote based on who they trust the most.
And this year it's McCain.

228 LeePro  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:58:24pm

re: #223 NY Nana

Great. I was just going to say g'nite and sweet dreams to all the lizards, and now I will have images of Carter the Jew hater spinning round in my head!

I will apply some brain bleach, and if it doesn't help, I will seek you and find you! ;)

Oh, { { {Nana} } }, sweetie. You've just gotta do something about those visions!

Ambien, maybe?

heehee

229 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:59:00pm

re: #222 realwest

Hi BBev - great Post!
It's sorta ironic that, because Bush carried the fight to the enemy, never gave them any respite and pretty much shut down all of their hiding places and sanctuaries from which they would otherwise have recruited, trained, armed and then been able to coordinate attacks such as 9/11, most people now don't think terrorism is a threat to us.

Hey Real .. When history is written GB will be shown to be a true leader and a man of conviction. I have his bumper sticker on my truck and there it will stay till the last day of his term.

230 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:59:08pm

re: #226 Killian Bundy

Army may go unpaid as sanctions dry up supply of paper for Zimbabwe banknotes

/ruh roh

Ruh roh!

Do I detect the the scent of "military coup" on the breeze?

231 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 10:59:12pm

re: #215 realwest

No, I have not, but I have a couple of siblings who have!
They became famous down there only after the movie came out, BTW, but ever since have been regarded with a sort of amused affection.

Che Guevara, on the other hand, is still widely regarded as scum.
Even the current president (a Chavez man....UGH!) is very careful about that subject.

232 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:00:22pm

re: #223 NY Nana

Great. I was just going to say g'nite and sweet dreams to all the lizards, and now I will have images of Carter the Jew hater spinning round in my head!

I will apply some brain bleach, and if it doesn't help, I will seek you and find you! ;)

Ya thanks, you are one that I don't need afer me. I fear the IRS less then you :-)

233 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:00:30pm

re: #213 Spiny Norman
Spiny, I'm thinking for the first year Obama can get away with blaming bush 100%; second year blaming Bush maybe 50%, third year no one will believe our problems are Bush's fault. NO ONE.

234 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:01:35pm
235 RTLM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:04:57pm

re: #226 Killian Bundy

Army may go unpaid as sanctions dry up supply of paper for Zimbabwe banknotes

/ruh roh

Just use toilet paper - same difference.

236 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:05:16pm

re: #227 realwest

I can't upding that , RW.
I'm too superstitious!

It's like when Mr. Wolf was giving my brother (BIG Giants fan) all of these reasons why the Super Bowl would be a great game and NY could win. My brother didn't want to hear it, partly because he was bracing himself for defeat, and partly because he thought the prediction would be a jinx!

237 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:06:39pm

re: #233 realwest

Spiny, I'm thinking for the first year Obama can get away with blaming bush 100%; second year blaming Bush maybe 50%, third year no one will believe our problems are Bush's fault. NO ONE.

Real.. I like to keep my home at 72 and I want to eat anything I want, I don't need someone telling me or making me what I need. I work 12-14 hour days for a living, if Osama wins why would I do that. I will work 8 hour days and not deal with the tax burden that he Will impose on me.

238 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:07:33pm

re: #231 wolfie Hah! I served with the 8th Special Forces Group in Panama (note: I am not nor was I ever qualified to be Special Forces, just served with em) and two of the Old Guys (as we called them - but not to their faces) were in on the capture of Che. And the Bolivian Colonel who greased Che as he was lying in bed, handcuffed to the bed, was almost gunned down himself by the 12 members of the Special Forces A team.
BTW, they said they had NO TROUBLE finding Che, master guerilla warfare expert that he was, nor in taking out his remaining "soldiers".

239 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:08:07pm

re: #237 BBev

Ya I'm in the top 5%

240 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:10:38pm

re: #238 realwest

Realwest...........I started writing you an email tonight and my comp shut down. I will try again tomorrow, I think I have everything all set but will follow up with you.

241 JamesTKirk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:10:56pm

Create your own Barrack Obama caricature

(For those like myself who ought to be asleep but aren't)

242 Racer X  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:11:06pm

re: #238 realwest

Wow!

That Colonel martyred the stupid bastard when he should have rotted away in a Bolivian cell.

243 RTLM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:12:48pm

re: 4 soldiers charged with murder -

MSM is awful quick to out the names of the soldiers. The frenzies seize on this "story" smacks of the Haditha enthusiasm. Looks to me like another stab to besmirch the Troops.

And early 2007 at the full height of the Surge... Total bullshit - they (MSM) can roll it up and stick it up their asses.

/Interesting timing

244 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:13:07pm

re: #238 realwest

Che, the great guerillero (!), did not have or succeed in establishing the one essential thing: support from the community. The "peasants" did not find him or his cohorts amusing at all!
I can believe he was a sitting duck, especially for a group like the Special Forces!

245 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:13:51pm

re: #237 BBevOh yes you will - you work those hours because of who you are: dedicated to getting it right and if it takes 12 hours that's what it takes.
Besides, with the recession we're gonna have, WHOEVER is the president would have to be a monumental asshole (and yes, that even includes Obama) to RAISE taxes.
There isn't one recognized, legitimate economist out there who's gonna say yeah, people can't afford gas, people are truly struggling to make ends meet, NOW, so lets take more of their money.
Even Socialists have learned from France's example of what happens to socialistic, nanny state ideals when they kill the golden goose.

246 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:14:03pm
247 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:15:29pm

re: #240 BBev I'm eagerly awaiting my friend! But get it right before you send it - don't rush it on my account!

248 wolfie  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:16:27pm

Oh dear! What am I doing up at this hour ?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Goodnight all!

249 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:16:53pm

re: #204 pegcity

Sorry about getting back to a little late. Work called. What is YTM?

250 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:17:07pm

re: #245 realwest

Oh yes you will - you work those hours because of who you are: dedicated to getting it right and if it takes 12 hours that's what it takes.
Besides, with the recession we're gonna have, WHOEVER is the president would have to be a monumental asshole (and yes, that even includes Obama) to RAISE taxes.
There isn't one recognized, legitimate economist out there who's gonna say yeah, people can't afford gas, people are truly struggling to make ends meet, NOW, so lets take more of their money.
Even Socialists have learned from France's example of what happens to socialistic, nanny state ideals when they kill the golden goose.

Ya your right but I guess I will have to work 16 hours a day if Osama wins.

251 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:17:16pm

re: #242 Racer X
Yep, that he did. It was Che's death that made him a fixture in the minds of certain people; had we simply captured him, put him in a Bolivian jail, there'd be no Che worship or T-shirts or flags.

252 JamesTKirk  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:18:49pm

re: #69 Boondock St. Bender

waiting for the obama/halo photoshop.with the sun beaming down...and obama standing there as if he's the only reason it's there.

"And then he had to ruin it by talking."
-Bruce Wayne about Clark Kent

253 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:20:02pm

re: #244 wolfie Precisely so wolfie. It's axiomatic that if you are going to win a guerrilla war, YOU MUST HAVE "THE PEOPLE" with you or at least not against you. The "Great Che" believed his own press clippings and instead of getting out of Bolivia while he could, thought he could harangue Bolivians into a revolution. He was wrong.

254 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:20:32pm

re: #250 BBev

Ya your right but I guess I will have to work 16 hours a day if Osama wins.

Nah, most people won't be able to find work at all.

255 realwest  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:22:12pm

Well all y'all it's been grand but I gotta get some sleep NOW! LOL!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

Goodnight, all.

256 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:24:55pm

re: #255 realwest

Good night Real

257 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:26:02pm

re: #249 BlueCanuck

yield to maturity, calculating bond yields

258 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:26:08pm

re: #254 Neo Con since 9-11

Nah, most people won't be able to find work at all.

Not me. there is always work for evil real estate developers

259 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:28:15pm

re: #257 pegcity

A couple questions, but the math was fairly light on my exam. They recently lowered the amount of questions from 125 to 100. The rumour I heard was that MF brokers are declining in the province.

/BTW you're in Manitoba right?

260 pegcity  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:29:47pm

re: #259 BlueCanuck

yah im assuming though its the same test as its through the CSI

261 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:32:10pm

re: #260 pegcity

There was a lot of KYC though. Mostly tied in with high risk funds and low risk. I came up with a mnemonic sorta of listing the level of risk of funds. Now, let me see if I can find it. :)

/might be at home some where on my desk.

262 DesertSage  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:33:38pm
263 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:36:21pm

This guy is scum. Please put meon the jury, WMUR

264 RTLM  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:36:26pm

The upcoming Obama Riot/Car Torch: Berlin

Via Drudge - [Link: www.dw-world.de...]

In the build-up to what is probably the most anticipated American campaign speech ever held on foreign soil, one of Berlin's main city magazines offered its readership cut-out American flags to wave at Barack Obama's planned address.

The presumed Democratic nominee plans to arrive in the German capital on Thursday morning. Not much of his agenda for the day has been made public, but he is set to speak at Berlin's Victory Column -- formally the main site of the Love Parade -- at 7PM local time.

Those who want to hear Obama live have been told to start arriving three hours earlier. Berlin authorities say that as many as a million people could attend. Four TV stations are broadcasting the entire speech, and the rest are scrambling to secure prime locations at the site.

Only around 13,000 Americans live in Berlin. So what is motivating Berliners and Germans in general to treat a Democratic presidential hopeful to such a royal welcome?

He's not Bush

/Calling all Soccer Hooligans

265 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:36:44pm

pimf/ me on

266 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:39:30pm

re: #261 BlueCanuck

Hah, it is at home but I remembered it. Money Mortgage Bonds Dividends Balanced Equity Index Specialty.

MMBDBfEIS. Great for a lot of questions.

267 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:43:03pm

re: #264 RTLM

The upcoming Obama Riot/Car Torch: Berlin

Via Drudge - [Link: www.dw-world.de...]


/Calling all Soccer Hooligans

WTF.. I do not want to be a European my family left there soooooo many years age and I keep reminding my family that is here that we in no way want to be like Europe

268 BBev  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:46:33pm
269 Metal Man  Wed, Jul 23, 2008 11:56:52pm

re: #267 BBev

It is an odd sort of cognitive dissonance some immigrants have. No memory of the hell that forced them from their home country. Probably worse in the 2nd and 3rd generations. Since what Grandma or Grandpa tells the grandkids stories of the hell that made them pick up and move. Even though they still can see the shithole that the old country is.

270 Metal Man  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:00:50am

#269

PIMF

Since what Grandma or Grandpa tells the grandkids isn't stories of the hell

271 BBev  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:06:22am

re: #269 Metal Man

It is an odd sort of cognitive dissonance some immigrants have. No memory of the hell that forced them from their home country. Probably worse in the 2nd and 3rd generations. Since what Grandma or Grandpa tells the grandkids stories of the hell that made them pick up and move. Even though they still can see the shithole that the old country is.

My mother family left England in 1620 and were cobblers my dads family left Italy in 1890 and bought huge amounts of real estate. There are a few generations between them and me but it's funny how most of my family are now moonbats that live in Massachusetts.

272 Karridine  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:09:51am

re: #269 Metal Man

How quickly we forget, Metal!

I recall my great-grandmother telling me how she came from St Louis to Oregon in a covered wagon... times were TOUGH but she worked hard and raised a God-fearing family...

But Americans are not alone in forgetting... I have South Korean friends who are 2nd generation post-War, and they SEE NO EVIL in Communism or NorK!

"You're just an old guy, Karridine! Look at Korea's wealth and capability! Communism cannot hurt US, so we have no need to PROTECT OURSELVES!'

273 FurryOldGuyJeans  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:11:27am

Nothing can be made fool-proof because fools can be so accidentally ingenious.

274 BBev  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:14:13am

re: #272 Karridine

The free market will weed out all problems get the government involved and it will fuck it all up.

275 freetoken  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:14:22am

re: #268 BBev

Wow and who has a claim on it? Arctic May Hold 90 Billion Barrels of Oil, U.S. Says

Well, first off it is just an estimate, but you do raise a good question.

One thing that is not on most Lizards' radar (I suspect) is the Law of the Sea treaty. For some reason the US Senate is really dragging its feet on this one, even though American entities (private enterprise, US Navy) are for it.

The big argument over "ownership" will only come into play when talking about areas beyond the conventional (commercial interest) shore distances. However, the pissing match here may not really be an issue for the US, but rather for Norway, Denmark, and Russia.

276 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:15:26am

re: #213 Spiny Norman

I may have posted this a couple days ago, but here it is again -- an e-mail from my dad.

Welcome to Toastmasters, June 13, 2033. That’s right: 2033.

Today Rick Campbell, one of our senior members at age 87, is here to reminisce a bit and give us a history lesson. He says he is so old that he learned to drive an internal combustion engine car (remember those) with a manual transmission. He once owned a typewriter. He remembers when bicycles had one speed, phones had two-party lines, and cameras had something called film. As incredible as this may seem, he says that when he was young, it was common for people to smoke in restaurants and public places. He is from a different time; almost a different world.

I’m sure all of us are far too familiar with the tragic events of 2010, so Rick is not going to plow that fertile field again. Instead, he is going to give us a personal look back at the conditions which led up to that fateful year, in a speech titled “2010 Was Not A Good Year To Be President.”

Yes, 2010 was long ago and far away.

As we look back on history, it appears that some Presidents had an easy ride- times of growth and stability. Teddy Roosevelt, Warren G. Harding, Dwight Eisenhower, Bill Clinton come to mind. Those were good years to be President.

Others were elected just when the Republic was facing terrible crises: Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, George W. Bush. They rose to the occasion, even though they were controversial and widely hated while in office. Not such good years to be President.

Just a few years prior, in 2008, the country began foundering. We were in the sixth year of the Iraqi Occupation, and the economy was flat. The mainstream press clearly wanted a Democrat elected. Although we didn’t know it until some years later, oil producing nations had colluded to secretly buy their own oil on the open market, driving oil prices to shocking levels above the true demand price- reaching a high of $162 a barrel in October, 2008, just before the general elections. Their purpose was simple: to effect regime change in the United States.

And of course, the U.S. economy was already in a real estate slump and also suffering the curse of stagflation; slow growth and high inflation. There were a million home foreclosures. Independent truckers went under by the thousands. Airlines failed. Airlines with names now long-forgotten: United, Delta, Northwestern, American. All now merged, of course, into the one lone U.S. carrier we love so much: Southwest.

Against this backdrop of weariness of the war on terror, and economic distress, the American people were ripe for a demagogue, and they certainly got one in Barack Hussein Obama. He and his running mate Kathlene Sibelius inspired them with vague notions of hope and change; of a world in which diplomacy settled all international problems, of free universal health care, of abundant alternative energy, of peace and love. It was a vision too good to resist.

The Republican nominee, a name you probably haven’t heard in years: John McCain, an obscure Senator from Arizona who had no clue how to run a national campaign, and a platform nearly as liberal as Obama’s. The selection of Condoleeza Rice as his running mate looked brilliant at first. Unfortunately, black voters viewed her as white, and women voters viewed her as one of the guys. Even so, the McCain/Rice ticket would have won the election if it weren’t for the fact that 16 percent of conservative Republicans voted for anyone remember? That’s right, Bob Barr, another name that’s a footnote in history.

After Obama’s narrow win, thanks to recounts in Broward County, Florida, the country was positively giddy. A Democrat House, Senate, and President. At last an end to gridlock in Washington. Camelot!

(Continuing...)

277 Metal Man  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:15:49am

re: #271 BBev
My grand parents on my mothers side were straight off the boat from England. My fathers lineage is older in America and more confusing.
None of my brothers or sisters are moonbats but I have plenty of them as cousins.

I have an interest and some pride in my ancestors but also know there is a reason for my being here in America.

278 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:16:31am

(Continuing)

When Congress convened in January, 2009, the 44th President of the United States did something unique in history: he made good on his campaign promises. Certainly most Americans never really thought he was serious during the campaign. But whether because of inexperience, idealism, or simply incompetence, he followed through. In Obama’s first One Hundred Days, the Congress passed his initiatives, and he signed them into law as he said he would.

He repealed the Bush tax cuts, and increased capital gains taxes. He enacted a windfall profits tax, and instituted price controls on gasoline and diesel fuel. He passed universal health care, which added an additional 10 percent tax increase on all working Americans. He signed the Immigrant Amnesty bill which created 12 million new citizens instantly, each with entitlements. He closed the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, and summarily released all the detainees. He repealed the Patriot Act, and cut funding for espionage, and eliminated all terrorist listening and wiretaps.

Most important, he began the complete and immediate withdrawal of all American troops from Iraq. He ignored the advice of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, who wanted to retain bases in Kuwait and Qatar. Instead, he went with the recommendation of Secretary of Defense Dennis Kucinich, and ordered all troops back to U.S. soil.

Viola! In One Hundred Days, by May of 2009, it was all done, and the vision was complete. He did exactly what he said he would do.

And so it was in the summer of 2009 that things began to unravel for Obama.

Of course, the economy needed a tax cut, not an increase, and unemployment quickly rose to 12 percent. Even attorneys and economists were put in the bread lines. Price controls on gasoline immediately led to shortages and gas lines. The global cooling trend we have seen for the past 25 years first became obvious in 2009, exposing the CO2 global warming fraud. Federal deficits increased massively because thousands of baby boomers, facing job loss and much higher taxes, simply gave up and took social security. Although the superb U.S. health care system was thrown into disarray, the bright spot was the creation of the Federal Department of Health care, and the immediate hiring of 250,000 administrators, inspectors and auditors, the only job growth in any economic sector in 2009.

By February 2010, the U.S. military withdrawal from Iraq was complete. It was a very expensive undertaking. And then in March, the gradual Shiite insurgencies from Iran turned into a true Iraqi civil war. In May, Iranian tanks crossed the border and quickly took Baghdad. Although the exact number is not known, at least 230,000 Sunni Iraqis died as we stood by. Iran also quickly moved into undefended Kuwait.

President Obama did exactly what he said he would. He sent Secretary of State, Maria Cantwell, to Tehran to meet with Iranian President Ahmadinejad. After two weeks of high level talks, the United States agreed to allow Iran to retain Iraq and Kuwait to create stability in the Middle East, with the understanding that Israel would not be disturbed. Cantwell returned to Washington, and explained the agreement in her famous speech, in which she proudly noted that the Obama administration had finally achieved “peace in our time” in the Middle East.

So there was some surprise at the rocket attacks on Tel Aviv on August 14th.

President Obama said, “This is not the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad I knew.” The Obama administration decided it would be de-stabilizing to take sides in the conflict, and approximately 29,000 Israeli civilians died during the summer and fall. American Jews were appalled at the inaction. Yes, in 2010 most American Jews were Democrats, but because of 2010, they are solid Republicans today.

As awkward as it was, everything might have turned out all right for the Obama administration going into the fall mid-term elections of 2010, if it hadn’t been for the dirty bomb in the Port of Long Beach.

(Continued, once more)

279 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:17:17am

(Finishing)

The administration had cut funding for the inspection of containers, because they felt it showed a “lack of trust” in the international trading community.

It wasn’t really a very big bomb, and thank goodness, not a real nuclear device, but nonetheless it contaminated some expensive real estate-Newport Beach, Palos Verdes Estates- and ultimately caused the death of 14,000 Americans. People were especially annoyed that Disneyland had to be closed for decontamination.

And so, in the midterm elections, Republicans regained control of both the House and Senate, and the rest is history. The impeachment proceedings against President Obama for “failure to protect and defend” were swift and nearly unanimous. Vice President Sibelius resigned. Newly-elected Speaker of the House, J.C. Watts, became the 45th President of the United States.

But you know the rest of the story well. Republicans finished the war on Islamic fundamentalists, largely by aiming ICBM’s at Mecca and Medina. No Democrat has been elected President since. Republicans have held both Houses of Congress. History of Western Civilization and Economics are now taught in all public schools, and in English only. Marriage is defined as one man and one woman. And there are border fences, north and south.

We old codgers remember the ancient Confucian curse: “May you live in interesting times.” Well, 2010 was an interesting year, but it was not a good year to be president.”

And on that note, I'm off to bed. Good night!

280 RTLM  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:19:11am

re: #267 BBev

WTF.. I do not want to be a European my family left there soooooo many years age and I keep reminding my family that is here that we in no way want to be like Europe

However,

LINK

Those wishing to attend have been advised that signs and posters will be prohibited at the speech—a move that has come in for criticism particularly from the left. There has been speculation that the Obama camps wants to avoid pictures of Germans making anti-American statements that could hurt the candidate back home.

Others say the ban is aimed at preventing political activists from making demands of Obama on uncomfortable issues. The World Wide Fund for Nature plans to flout the prohibition by issuing members T-shirts with pictures of polar bears and the words “Yes, You Can!” as a way of encouraging Obama to take a tougher line on environmental protection.

Moreover, some residents of Germany’s perennially cash-strapped capital have taken umbrage at the fact that Obama’s visit will cost a half-million euros ($786,000)—half of which will be born by German public funds.

How come the German and the Berlin taxpayer has to pony up 250,000 euros so that Obama gets a nice television backdrop for his campaign?” asked one irritated blogger on the website of a local newspaper.

But another was quick to respond.

“What do want, McCain to win?” that person asked. “It would be good if Obama won, and he can only do that if he convinces voters back home via the TV. So let the cameras show masses of people flocking to Obama through the Brandenburg Gate.”

Obama originally wanted to speak at that symbolic location, but the event was moved after concerns that the Gate shouldn’t be used for political purposes. Now the Democratic candidate hopes that huge crowds of cheering supporters, mostly foreign, at Victory Column will help him win November’s election in the US.

It would suck to be them.

281 BBev  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:20:28am

re: #275 freetoken

Well, first off it is just an estimate, but you do raise a good question

When it comes to oil it is a global market and the more oil on the market the better for you and me but that being said I would rather be driving an electric car that has far fewer problems in the long run.

282 Metal Man  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:23:09am

re: #272 Karridine

One of the reasons I'm ok with McCain is I think he gets the communist threat. The next 8 years are going to be telling on the resurgence of communism IMO.

283 freetoken  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:25:34am

BTW, you can still make out Dolly's eye on the Brownsville radar. The folk in south Texas are really getting soaked.

284 BBev  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:26:57am

re: #277 Metal Man

My grand parents on my mothers side were straight off the boat from England. My fathers lineage is older in America and more confusing.
None of my brothers or sisters are moonbats but I have plenty of them as cousins.

I have an interest and some pride in my ancestors but also know there is a reason for my being here in America.

I am the keeper of the family history

285 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:27:19am

re: #272 Karridine

We who have a long memory of what we have seen, or actually listened and understood what our elders taught us, are now essentialy Cassandras. Seeing the coming dark, or possibility of the dark, and trying to rise our fellow man to fight it. We are the few who do that. I like LGF for that reason, we are all Cassandras and we listen. Every now and then someone we talk to in the real world wakes up. All it takes is a few people in the right place at the right time to move mountains.

286 Steffan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:27:51am

I found a book of quotes the other day... some of them are keepers.

What is a Communist? One who has yearnings
For equal division of unequal earnings,
Idler or bungler, or both, he is willing
To fork out his copper and pocket your shilling.
--Ebenezer Elliott

287 BBev  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:30:33am

re: #285 BlueCanuck

We who have a long memory of what we have seen, or actually listened and understood what our elders taught us, are now essentialy Cassandras. Seeing the coming dark, or possibility of the dark, and trying to rise our fellow man to fight it. We are the few who do that. I like LGF for that reason, we are all Cassandras and we listen. Every now and then someone we talk to in the real world wakes up. All it takes is a few people in the right place at the right time to move mountains.

I have been doing my part for the past years and will never give up. My glass is always half full. ALWAYS

288 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:37:45am

re: #6 solomonpanting

learn spanish?

289 Metal Man  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:38:51am

re: #284 BBev

The keeper of the family history in my family is my father. This may be the best defense to moonbatism. Keep up the good work.

290 conservativeChick  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:42:57am

Hey everybody did you hear that John Edwards was found cheating on his wife. I read at Ace of Spades. What a major league douchebag.

291 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:43:49am

re: #290 conservativeChick

Old news around here. :) But we always knew he was a douchebag.

292 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:47:51am

re: #101 slokat

Ok, (this might have been posted, didn't see it) the Govenator decided to rattle the cages of the state employees union - state employees to be paid minimum wage until budget approved.

THEY ARE BEING PAID WHAT THEY ARE WORTH

293 BBev  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:47:56am

re: #289 Metal Man

Good night all

294 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:49:12am

re: #290 conservativeChick

NOW you have done it Chick you have offended the worlds douche bags.

295 Metal Man  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:49:33am

re: #293 BBev

Good night BBev.

296 Metal Man  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:51:44am

re: #294 yochanan

Like this one.

Maybe Edwards needs one.

297 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:53:11am

re: #287 BBev

I have been doing my part for the past years and will never give up. My glass is always half full. ALWAYS

My glass is half full of vodka and pineapple juice.

298 conservativeChick  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 12:54:47am

I thought his Mistress was a dude when I first heard.

299 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:01:01am

Watched Letterman tonight. He had on some ninth degree moonbat, author of a new book "The Dark Side".
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
Letterman played along with her very sympathetically, turning my stomach. Finished by asking her, "Does the Geneva Convention say it does not apply to terrorists?" She laughed, "No, of course not."

Blatent ignorance of the facts, is extremely useful in the career of the full-blooded moonbat.

300 RTLM  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:03:30am

Preview of new Denver Mint product: / pic


LINK

Barack Obama’s big Berlin rally is being sold to U.S. voters as reason to vote for him. Yes, Germans do love Obama, but a look at what they think of the rest of us raises questions about the cheering.

A May-June Gallup poll released July 23 shows that 62% of Germans want Obama elected president over just 27% who would prefer John McCain. It’s a German landslide.

Opinions about leaders are one thing. But Germany’s negative attitudes extend well beyond Bush to a significant loathing of America, mostly based on its global influence and its success.

Obama may demand on the campaign trail that no one dare question his patriotism, but for Germans, disliking the U.S. is nothing to hide. Yet this is the place Obama’s team thought would be best to hold a rally to boost his campaign.

That is relevant to why Germans are cheering for Obama. He has consistently expounded a worldview that espouses the moral equivalency of nations, rather than importance of U.S. leadership. He’s a big fan of letting the U.N. make America’s foreign policy decisions, consistent with shrinking U.S. influence in the world. He has also expressed embarrassment at the U.S. compared with Europe.

Why will they cheer? Because they see a less influential America coming with an Obama presidency.

Among Germans, 88% believe the U.S. influences events in their country despite a simultaneous belief that the U.S. is a spent power; 47% think that influence is a bad thing; only 12% call it good. And 80% believe America has a negative impact on Germany’s economy — an idea so plainly wrong as to be laughable.

Blaming America first may be nice for Germany’s anti-Americans. But trying to influence U.S. voters with a campaign rally of people who loathe much of what America stands for strikes us as poor judgment.

301 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:13:36am

re: #297 Fenway_Nation

My glass is half full of vodka and pineapple juice.

half full, half empty..... macht nichts.

i want something different in the glass.

/scotch would be a good start. %-)

302 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:17:47am

re: #299 itellu3times

Watched Letterman tonight. He had on some ninth degree moonbat, author of a new book "The Dark Side".
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
Letterman played along with her very sympathetically, turning my stomach. Finished by asking her, "Does the Geneva Convention say it does not apply to terrorists?" She laughed, "No, of course not."

Blatent ignorance of the facts, is extremely useful in the career of the full-blooded moonbat.

hey: he's a new yorker, popular in new york city, and other cloistered parts of the US where all the media types live. they listen to each other and decided years ago that their echo was all the guidance they needed.

/certainly explains declining box office tally's and the shrinking ratings.

303 Metal Man  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:19:33am

It can only be guilt in moonbats that makes them want to want to follow the Europeans.

The only thing all Europeans have in common is that the US has stepped in to end their wars. Their only difference is weather we saved their ass or kicked it.

304 Karridine  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:19:59am

re: #285 BlueCanuck

We who have a long memory of what we have seen, or actually listened and understood what our elders taught us, are now essentialy Cassandras. Seeing the coming dark, or possibility of the dark, and trying to rise our fellow man to fight it. We are the few who do that. I like LGF for that reason, we are all Cassandras and we listen. Every now and then someone we talk to in the real world wakes up. All it takes is a few people in the right places at the right time to move mountains.


Concur yr analysis, Canuck!

I'll accept the role of Cassandra, for I have studied at some length both the American Civil War (World Civil War = parallel) and WWII (the period of 'phony war', the appeasement, the HUGE PAYMENT MADE LATER because we didn't make a SMALL PAYMENT EARLIER!

Raise the alarm, rationally and courteously, but unceasingly and loudly!

Iran is NOT our friend, as it is now OR armed with nuclear weapons!
China and Russia are playing footsie behind the scenes: NOT our friends.
Communists & Socialists HATE America: NOT our friends or the friends of humankind.

305 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:20:30am

re: #299 itellu3times

Wow....I'd need a couple of completely full or 1/100th not empty glasses of vodka or rum after sitting through that....

306 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:23:43am

re: #304 Karridine

True. Even though us Canadians are a different breed, mentally and politically, we are more like Americans than most of us are willing to admit. I still have a "go to hell" plan for any worst case scenario. But I will keep the faith and only give up on those who have placed their heads firmly up their asses.

307 docremulac  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:32:49am

"NEW YORK TIMES profit drops 82%

New York - The New York Times suffered a 16.4 per cent decrease in June advertising revenues and warned on Wednesday that the effects of high oil prices, a slowing economy and the housing crisis were likely to weigh on its prospects for some time."


Let's see. Is this newspaper failing because it became the propaganda wing of the islamofascist war against the west (32 successive New York Times front page articles on Abu Ghraib) or because of the foreclosure crises? Has any one single person canceled their subscription because of hight gas prices?

These people are so full of shit I don't think they even know when they're lying any more.

308 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:33:54am

re: #306 BlueCanuck

my GOTH plan provides for stringing razor wire and tangle foot on the easy approaches, along with disabled vehicles, and really ugly stuff on the others.......

all will be in overwatch at all times, and the ROE will take care of the rest.

309 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:35:47am

re: #307 docremulac

"NEW YORK TIMES profit drops 82%

New York - The New York Times suffered a 16.4 per cent decrease in June advertising revenues and warned on Wednesday that the effects of high oil prices, a slowing economy and the housing crisis were likely to weigh on its prospects for some time."


Let's see. Is this newspaper failing because it became the propaganda wing of the islamofascist war against the west (32 successive New York Times front page articles on Abu Ghraib) or because of the foreclosure crises? Has any one single person canceled their subscription because of hight gas prices?

These people are so full of shit I don't think they even know when they're lying any more.

we should all write a letter encouraging them to maintain their vision in the face of short term trouble.

310 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:36:30am

re: #307 docremulac

It's not just the NY Slimes. Read an interesting tidbit about a poor slob on livejournal today. Hs stock he had in a newspaper dropped almost 90%.

/scroll down to July 18th article and it's about half way in.

311 Karridine  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:36:46am

re: #306 BlueCanuck

Hear, hear! And I'm glad of the differences, keeps us both honest...

but there ARE folks with their heads on straight...

312 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:38:10am

re: #308 redc1c4

Don't have that option in the city. Being a renter and all. But I do have a contact that owns rural property a good distance north of the city. Might take me a little time to get there but not a problem. I need to lose weight anyway. :)

/maybe I should work on that now while things are peaceful.

313 Karridine  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:38:46am

re: #312 BlueCanuck

Maybe you SHOULD.... :D

314 Karridine  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 1:56:47am

Whoa!

S
L
O
W

here tonite!

315 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

316 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:02:30am

re: #315 littleoldlady

Good morning littleoldlady. Welcome to the very dead thread.

317 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:03:38am

BlueCanuck! :-)

I know. I almost fell asleep while preparing fruitcup.... ;-)

318 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:08:24am

At least work is imitating the thread. Very peaceful here. I enjoy a quiet night before I start my weekend.

319 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:10:46am

Wish I could say the same. I have to get started on my day. :-( I'll check back to see if anyone is awake later....

Hold down the fort, Blue!

320 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:11:51am

re: #315 littleoldlady

steping over some lizards in full feeding frenzy.

nasty

321 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:12:29am

re: #319 littleoldlady

Will do. I know red is lurking around here somewhere. We should do it nicely.

322 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:22:16am

Some blogger tracked down the BHO birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper - which pretty much negates the theory that he was born in Kenya, "because in 1961 these announcements came directly from the Vital Statistics Office as reported by local hospitals".

323 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:30:00am

A German news weekly Der Spiegel pictures Obama on the cover. Can anyone guess what the headline reads?

324 Karridine  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:33:16am

re: #323 EC Marm

A German news weekly Der Spiegel pictures Obama on the cover. Can anyone guess what the headline reads?



The Messiah Factor
?
re Obamassiah

325 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 2:37:02am

re: #324 Karridine


The Messiah Factor
?
re Obamassiah


That's right. But they have a newer one for this weeks adoration festival, "Germany Meets the Superstar". I'm still searching, but I can't find it yet. The earlier one is from February of this year.

326 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:08:11am

Unlike most others of the wicked, CHARLES DOES NOT REST.

(;

/good evening...

327 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:11:05am

Hey Lazardo, welcome once again.

328 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:13:25am

re: #327 BlueCanuck

Wrangling Obamatons on a thread where the original poster believes there isn't enough bias against McCain. Something about Phil Gramm being a lobbyist for the controversial UBS.

Comments?

329 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:17:29am

re: #328 laZardo

I don't follow American politics that closely. But from what I have seen here, and in our news papers, there is far too much on NObama.

330 rightwinger3  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:19:36am

re: #328 laZardo

Wrangling Obamatons on a thread where the original poster believes there isn't enough bias against McCain. Something about Phil Gramm being a lobbyist for the controversial UBS.

Comments?

There isn't enough coverage of McCain and hence not enough bias.

There's none so blind as they that won't see. ~Swift

331 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:25:20am

re: #330 rightwinger3

"Coverage" was the word I was looking for, thanks. >__> Still, that thread's original poster is harping on that Obama receives way too much negative attention for people like The Racist Reverend as compared to McCain receiving it for Phil "Enron" Gramm.

332 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:28:59am

Good Morning LGF
The Israelis can expect bumper crops this season thanks to all the manure BHO is spreading around over there.

333 rightwinger3  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:31:03am

re: #331 laZardo

"Coverage" was the word I was looking for, thanks. >__> Still, that thread's original poster is harping on that Obama receives way too much negative attention for people like The Racist Reverend as compared to McCain receiving it for Phil "Enron" Gramm.

Whatever "negative" coverage Obama gets from his fawning friends he brings on himself. Come on...20 years of going to the same church with the same pastor...and he didn't know he was a raving lunatic racist? He knew...he just didn't care until it was time to run for the highest elected office in the land. Oh and by the way tell the poster that McCain gets more than his fair share of negative coverage...hell, he even got negative coverage of his time as a POW because he wrote a statement for his captors.

334 rightwinger3  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:33:00am

re: #332 sparrowlake

Good Morning LGF
The Israelis can expect bumper crops this season thanks to all the manure BHO is spreading around over there.

I don't think "The Messiah" needs manure...although I agree with your statement!

335 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:38:28am

re: #334 rightwinger3

I don't think "The Messiah" needs manure...although I agree with your statement!

Yes, how sacreligious of me - they can simply pick up the manna from heaven which he will surely cause to fall in his munificence.

336 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:53:07am

Hmmm, awfully quiet here - whassup?
I see in the paper this morning that up here in Toronto we have already received a record amount of rainfall this month, with a week still to go.
Enough with the rain already, and all praises and thanks to our most generous and naturalized American saviour.

337 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:54:37am

re: #336 sparrowlake

Ah, you must be reading the Red Star then. Don't see that headline on any of the other papers. But then I haven't seen the Sun yet.

/in more ways than one.

338 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:56:18am

Good morning, Lizards!

339 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 3:58:44am

Morning goddess.

340 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:00:21am

re: #337 BlueCanuck

Ah, you must be reading the Red Star then. Don't see that headline on any of the other papers. But then I haven't seen the Sun yet.

/in more ways than one.

National Post, actually. I cancelled my subscription to the Toronto Star about 10 years ago, thanks to their biased ME and anti-American coverage and especially because I was getting migraines and ministrokes from reading Harpoon DaSiqqi's virulent op-eds.
BBL.

341 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:02:18am

re: #340 sparrowlake

Well have a good one. I will be taking off in about an hour myself.

342 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:02:25am

re: #333 rightwinger3

On Wright and Gramm: "It's one thing to have a 20-year friendship with a guy who you just watched a church for an hour a week, it's another to have an equally long relationship with a lobbyist who's a big cause of the economy's current slump writing your economic policy!"

/facepalming too, don't worry

343 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:02:47am

re: #338 goddessoftheclassroom

G'devening, Goddess...

344 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:03:45am

Morn Lizards.

News: I guess he refused to give them the keys to his bulldozer.


Two Palestinian workers at a construction site near Ashkelon attacked a Jewish contractor with a hammer on Thursday, lightly wounding him.
Police launched a search of the area after the attackers fled. It is currently uncertain whether the attack was national or criminal.
345 Jed 1899  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:04:18am

re: #338 goddessoftheclassroom
{goddess}
Mornin Lizards/Lizardette's :)

346 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:05:20am

{BlueCanuck}
{laZardo}

Hi, guys!

I have a question to which I'd appreciate a serious answer: do any of you wish you'd been taught grammar/usage/punctuation and writing better? Do you feel that your teachers made the effort but that you didn't/couldn't pick it up at that time?

347 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:06:45am

re: #346 goddessoftheclassroom

Not really. Sometimes I think I'm the only person I know who actually uses proper capitalization, grammar and punctuation during IMs or chats. =_=

348 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:07:16am

Morning all! I don't have a TV but I wouldn't believe news reports anyhow.

We have another DISASTER going on here in New Orleans. A HUGE oil spill occurred here in the Mississippi river! The river is closed for at least 3 weeks during clean up. Some unlicensed tug boat drivers created some sort of boat crash and one was carrying oil. I smelled something horrible yesterday thinking I spilled some chemicals that I didn't know i had, but I didn't have anything. Then, a neighbor thought the smell was exhaust from the workers on the street.

Only to find out this is unrefined oil, with lots of benzine. I have no idea if we will need to leave town or not during the clean up because our water supply comes from the river.

I wish I had some water filters. As it is they are saying not to drink the water. I don't even know if I can bathe as the water in the tap smells very chemical-ley. This is really bad and I doubt we will get any real information about what's going on as far as health and safety are concerned.

349 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:07:19am

Good morning Lizards! It is a wet and dreary day here in CT, but I am doing my best to keep the sun shining in my heart.

350 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:07:59am

re: #346 goddessoftheclassroom

I failed grammar all the way throught public school. I wasn't taught it at all in high school. It's amazing I can piece together a proper sentence.

351 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:10:11am

re: #348 Teacake!

Uh...BLAME BUSH AND FEMA!

///////////

/good evening to you too.

352 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:10:12am

re: #348 Teacake!

Morning all. Was there any consensus on yestreday'sMcCain VP thread? I gotta stop working, it interferes with my LGF time.
Teacake- where in Norlins are you? I went to junior high in Algiers- Aurora. Edna Karr. (1970.)

353 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:10:42am

re: #344 ibmkeyboard

no arabs NO TERROR

354 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:11:00am

{goddess!}
Can you sing us a song?

355 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:11:11am

Good Morning kind lizards.

356 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:12:19am

re: #348 Teacake!
Here's an article:
[Link: www.nola.com...]
Don't drink the water. Buy bottles of water.

357 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:13:04am
358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:15:05am

re: #346 goddessoftheclassroom

{BlueCanuck}
{laZardo}

Hi, guys!

I have a question to which I'd appreciate a serious answer: do any of you wish you'd been taught grammar/usage/punctuation and writing better? Do you feel that your teachers made the effort but that you didn't/couldn't pick it up at that time?

If I could go back in time, my lack of study/concern/discipline concerning all of my schooling is the one thing I would change. I was a very smart C- student. I can place zero point zero blame on the teachers. I drove them batty.

359 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:16:04am

re: #354 Jim in Virginia

{goddess!}
Can you sing us a song?

360 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:17:00am
361 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:18:00am

re: #357 ploome hineni

....McCain the wimp

imagine, McCain allows a cat 2 hurricane to stop him from going onto an oil rig

:-P

and the Obamination, after

at the Western Wall, commenting on the demonstration said he

'expected more reverence there'

his chutzpa is astounding


The press probably misquoted Obama. What he probably said was, "I expected to receive more reverence."

362 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:18:01am
363 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:19:14am

Out of curiosit goddess, why the grammar question?

/I know mine needs a lot of work some mornings.

364 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:19:49am

re: #363 BlueCanuck

PIMF curiosit == curiosity

/not to mention spelling.

365 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:20:07am

re: #357 ploome hineni

and the Obamination, after
praying
at the Western Wall, commenting on the demonstration said he

'expected more reverence there'

When I become now that I am President,
you will bow.
I know what God wants.

366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:20:38am

re: #362 ploome hineni

those plastic empty bottles, take 700 yrs to degrade

If Obama gets elected, that'll probably even speed up.

367 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:20:44am

This is easily the best headline (and best story) of the week.

368 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:22:09am

Oh fer goodness sakes! If it's adulation he wants, why doesn't Obama just run for King of Europe, where they worship him at higher percentages.

/two birds; one stone

Grammar? What means grammar? ;-)

369 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:22:48am

THis is a huge disaster.

Hey Jim, I'm in the lower garden dist, not far at all from algiers.

I might have to do something really rude and beg for donations in order to stock up on water or get a good filter for the sink. THe tub I have is too old for a filter, dammit. If its okay with Charles that I ask for some help with paypal - i just now added my addy. THis is a very worrisome situation. WIthout water, it never even occurred to me we would be in a situation like this.

I don't have a car and being I live on a fixed (very small) income - I can't consider leaving leave town. I was planning on staying if another big hurricane came by. No one even considered this happening.

I don't even know if I should take a chance having a shower ! The water smells really bad. THIS IS FUCKED! Please don't make jokes about blaming Bush etc. THis isn't a funny situation at all.

370 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:23:04am

re: #367 Wyatt Earp

Because "getting to the other side" wasn't a good enough answer for someone who wanted to find the real answer to the world's oldest joke.

371 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:23:15am

re: #368 littleoldlady

Grammar? What means grammar? ;-)

isn't that who your grampa married?

/*duck and covers*

372 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:23:34am

re: #363 BlueCanuck

Out of curiosit goddess, why the grammar question?

/I know mine needs a lot of work some mornings.

I'm teaching an SAT prep course. The College Board added a writing/grammar test a few years ago. Most school districts have abandoned the formal teaching of grammar with all the correct terms under the theory that just writing will improve students' knowledge of structure.

My theory is that learning the the terms and usage of grammatical structure gives students the tools to write clearly, precisely, and correctly.

373 Jed 1899  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:23:41am

re: #367 Wyatt Earp

His underoo's may have been over his head.

374 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:23:49am
375 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:26:55am

re: #364 BlueCanuck

PIMF curiosit == curiosity

/not to mention spelling.

Typos are NOT misspellings!

(I need to get that printed on a T-shirt...)

376 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:27:21am

re: #360 ploome hineni

I just installed this in my house


You know what, though? I have a well and used to trust the water for drinking after running it through a Brita. I'd have it tested about once a year. Then I realized that bottled water is tested for something like 40 different criteria almost daily. So we buy maybe two-three gallons a week.
The plastic bottles I toss into the recycle bin.
Not that what you bought isn't good. This claim:

The main filter unit is easily replaced (no plumber needed) every three years (EQ-300R in Product Catalog).


Makes me cringe. Have you ever seen a filter after even six months? Gross is an understatement. Vile is more accurate.

377 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:28:30am

plooooooooomie! :-)

/wait a minute...was that a HUG?! ;-)

goddess! :-)

I can't remember how they grade those SAT essays - grammar and usage only, or content as well? I do remember thinking they were too subjective for a standardized test.

378 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:29:40am

re: #377 littleoldlady

I remember getting 1330 on my SAT I. Too bad the scores have to be multiples of 10.

/lame h4xx0r joke

379 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:30:44am

re: #372 goddessoftheclassroom

Okay the last time I was actually taught grammar in school was 1982. The next time I was asked to parse a sentence was in 1988.

380 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:31:12am

I just read that Obama has banned anyone attending today's speech in Germany from carrying signs or banners. That champion of free expression, Obama. Oy.

381 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:32:18am
382 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:32:42am

re: #369 Teacake!
Relax. The article seems to indicate that they have shut the water intakes and are bringing in water from outside the area. The number one danger is from drinking petroleum filled water. Showering should be okay. If the water stinks, then wait to shower. Opening your water taps for 10 minutes or so every couple hours will purge your line. Buy a couple of gallons of water, which should last you a week, until you find out more information.

383 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:32:50am

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

Typos are NOT misspellings!

(I need to get that printed on a T-shirt...)

"Tipoes ar knot mispelinges"

384 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:33:51am

re: #378 laZardo

VERY good! I think I beat you by a few points, but that was 150-200 years ago...

385 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:34:56am

re: #377 littleoldlady

The essays are graded for content: how well the students designs an response to a specific question.

386 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:36:06am

re: #379 BlueCanuck

Okay the last time I was actually taught grammar in school was 1982. The next time I was asked to parse a sentence was in 1988.

But do you know why something is wrong or right in a sentence?

387 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:36:17am

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

Typos are NOT misspellings!

(I need to get that printed on a T-shirt...)

What I actually need is a listing of all the commonly used abbreviations (like PIMF) and what they stand for. I am often lost when I see those things.

388 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:36:43am

re: #381 ploome hineni

probably


If you have easy accessibility to the unit and spare filters, it's not too tough to replace them yourself every couple of months. It does take some good arm strength to get them loose and then re-tighten them hard enough that they don't leak.

389 ibmkeyboard  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:37:37am

re: #366 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

If Obama gets elected, that'll probably even speed up.

if i can just get his autograph.

Rock Star.

390 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:37:43am

re: #384 littleoldlady

My ACT was also in the lower 30s. >___>

391 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:38:25am

re: #385 goddessoftheclassroom

The essays are graded for content: how well the students designs an response to a specific question.

In which case what's the point?

Teach-to-test is the name of the game these days, right?

/let's not get started on No Child Left Behind. I DO have to get some work done today...

392 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:38:38am

re: #386 goddessoftheclassroom

But do you know why something is wrong or right in a sentence?

I can usually tell when something isn't correct. However, I can't always use the proper verbiage in explaining it. I read a lot so I think that is why when something is wrong it stands out.

393 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:40:36am

re: #391 littleoldlady

In which case what's the point?

Teach-to-test is the name of the game these days, right?

/let's not get started on No Child Left Behind. I DO have to get some work done today...

My 2 year old daughter goes to an in home daycare run by a woman who is a former teacher. She quit teaching in CT because they teach to the test and she wasn't willing to do that.

394 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:40:58am

re: #391 littleoldlady

I've got to get ready, so I hope we can discuss this topic later.

Have a GREAT day, dear Lizards!

395 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:41:39am

re: #391 littleoldlady

re: #394 goddessoftheclassroom

Enjoy Life!

396 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:41:49am

re: #394 goddessoftheclassroom

Cheers, and I shall have a good night. (;

397 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:43:29am
398 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:43:58am

re: #393 Ford_Prefect

I was managing a tutoring company a couple of years back when the owners decided they wanted to "take advantage of the opportunity" they saw in No Child Left Behind. I went to one meeting held by the Philadelphia School District, and quit that job within a week.

399 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:45:05am
400 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:47:02am

re: #399 ploome hineni

I can't think of a better way.

401 Irish Rose  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:52:38am

Good morning, lizards.

58 degrees and sunny along the Lake Michigan shoreline, hows' everyone?

402 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:52:46am

Morning all, everyone survive those east coast storms last night?

403 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:53:12am

re: #397 ploome hineni

ewwwwwwwwwwww

/no,I don;t do that


They say (in the pdf file) that the 'sediment prefilter' should be replaced every 1-3 months for optimal performance. If you're not a heavy user of water (like lawn watering) than 3 months should be fine. There's a special plastic wrench (that you may have been given) that makes the job easier. But I don't think it's something that a woman (sexist me!) can easily do unless she works out or with weights or weighs about 200 pounds.

404 loveguru  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:53:14am
405 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:54:12am

re: #402 CapeCoddah

Morning all, everyone survive those east coast storms last night?

Everyone here at work has been telling me how bad it was. I slept through it.

406 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:54:56am

re: #401 Irish Rose

30-something-Celsius and nice, cool and rainy on the other side of the world. You?

407 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:55:24am

Good Morning Lizards.

If you hear a crashing sound, that will be the economy in Brazil.

Brazil boosts interest rate to 13%

LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- Brazil's interest-rate policymakers Wednesday evening raised its key rate to 13%, a level higher than had been anticipated by economists.

In a unanimous decision, the central bank's rate committee, known as COPOM, pulled the benchmark Selic rate up by 75 basis points as it moved to curb rising inflationary pressures from increased consumer demand and the worldwide surge in commodity prices.

If you understand the "multiplier theory" in macroeconomics, you will understand how drastic of a move this is for Brazile.

The effects of fuel cost increases are rippling through the global economy.

408 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:55:37am

We got some rain around midnight, and heard the thunder on the North side of the Cape, but, the south side got only rain.

409 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 4:58:42am

Looks like it is still nasty out your way, Ford

410 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:00:03am

Following up on my #407,

Malaysia's inflation soars to 26-year high in June

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Malaysia's consumer price inflation soared to a 26-year high in June, official data showed Wednesday, heightening expectations that the central bank will hike interest rates at its meeting later this week.

The consumer price index rose by 3.9% month-on-month in June to 7.7% year-on-year, Malaysia's department of statistics reported Wednesday. In comparison, the CPI index rose by 3.8% in May.

As inflation keeps increasing around the world, the US will more and more become a safe haven of economic stability for foreign capital.

411 littleoldlady  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:00:29am

Storms? So THAT'S why the grass is wet! ;-)

Good day, ALL!™

412 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:01:41am

have a sfae and wonderful day yoourself, Littleoldlady

413 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:01:42am

re: #407 3 wood


If you understand the "multiplier theory" in macroeconomics, you will understand how drastic of a move this is for Brazile.

The effects of fuel cost increases are rippling through the global economy.


If I'm not mistaken Brazil is 100% energy independent.

The Brazilian government has undertaken an ambitious program to reduce dependence on imported oil. Imports previously accounted for more than 70% of the country's oil needs but Brazil became energy independent in 2006. [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
414 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:02:27am

Yipes, safe and wonderful,, I need coffee!

415 CIA Reject  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:03:24am

re: #410 3 wood

Is that good news for the US Dollar? I'm "economics challenged"...

/Good Mornin' Everybody!

416 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:04:33am

Good Morning Lizards!
How is everyone this fine day?

417 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:04:33am

Greetings & Salutations Lizards. May the Obama be with you.

418 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:04:51am

re: #370 laZardo

He may make "the other side" and see Jesus after all this. What a dolt.

419 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:05:09am

And then there was this yesterday.

S&P may cut New York Times on revenue decline

SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Standard & Poor's Ratings Services on Wednesday placed The New York Times Co.'s ratings, including the BBB- corporate credit rating, on CreditWatch with negative implications. "The CreditWatch listing reflects an accelerating pace of total revenue decline and a rate of decline in EBITDA in the first half of 2008 that indicates the company may have difficulty achieving our expectations for the current rating," said Emile Courtney, an S&P credit analysts.

This is sort of like the Captain of the Titanic being told that the ship may have bumped a little ice.

420 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:05:31am

re: #409 CapeCoddah

Looks like it is still nasty out your way, Ford

Yes, it is coming down pretty good right now, and it is much darker out then normal. I think this is all a result of global warming.

/sarc

421 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:06:25am

re: #413 EC Marm

re: #413 EC Marm

If I'm not mistaken Brazil is 100% energy independent.

They may be, but they are not immune to the rising costs of imports and resources from other countries that are not indepenent.

422 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:07:12am

re: #410 3 wood

In the midst of this recession?

/half-sarc, and speculator's advocate

423 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:08:24am

re: #420 Ford_Prefect

It's pitch black outside over here, occasionally punctuated by lightning flashes. God help us all.

/

424 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:11:14am

re: #423 laZardo

It's pitch black outside over here, occasionally punctuated by lightning flashes. God help us all.

/

Where is over here? I am in CT.

425 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:11:23am

re: #415 CIA Reject

Is that good news for the US Dollar? I'm "economics challenged"...


It's a mixed bag.

To the extent that the US interest rates are lower in relative terms, the dollar will depreciate as capital flows towards the higher interest rates elsewhere. But, once the fear of inflation gets instilled, capital will tend to flow back to the US as the US goods are cheaper for other's to buy and as capital runs away from the inflation to keep purchasing power.

The US tends to be better at fighting inflation than most other countrys, for a whole lot of technical reasons I won't bore you with.

Upshot is, we will be fine once oil prices settle down.

426 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:14:15am

re: #422 laZardo

In the midst of this recession?

Yes. Some countrys just don't do a good job of dealing with inflation. Believe it or not, the US generally does a good job of it. Keep an eye on inflation in the EU too. I think that is ready to take off.

427 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:14:21am

re: #424 Ford_Prefect

"Over here"

428 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:15:27am

re: #426 3 wood

Yeah, I think Zimbabwe is at the top of the "not good" list. Their paper currency isn't worth wiping your posterior.

429 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:16:01am

Gawd, I feel the tingle!

/sarc

Gack! What a depressing thing to wake up to. Mornin' Lizards

430 rightside  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:16:13am

Morning Lizards!

431 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:19:18am

re: #429 unreconstructed rebel

Excuse me, I need to use the toilet for an oral discharge.

/HURRRRRRRRRRGH.

432 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:20:10am

re: #427 laZardo

"Over here"

It amazes me that the world has gotten so small in terms of our ability to communicate. You could be right next door, instead you are half a world away. What causes you to be there? Are you native or just transient?

433 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:20:35am

Good morning Lizards, rightside... long time no see....

434 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:21:02am

re: #429 unreconstructed rebel

Great poll in the WSJ this week showing McCain leading every important category with the voters. Obama? He leads categories such as likeability and compassion. Give me a break! Is it possible that the American voters are dumb enough to elect this tool on "style" alone?

435 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:21:42am

re: #434 Wyatt Earp

Great poll in the WSJ this week showing McCain leading every important category with the voters. Obama? He leads categories such as likeability and compassion. Give me a break! Is it possible that the American voters are dumb enough to elect this tool on "style" alone?

See: Bill Clinton.

436 rightside  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:21:51am

re: #433 doriangrey

Hey dorian, been working midnights past couple weeks, but peeking my head in occasionally...how's SD, and the vette?

437 Irish Rose  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:21:55am

re: #434 Wyatt Earp

Is it possible that the American voters are dumb enough to elect this tool on "style" alone?

Yes.

438 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:22:01am

re: #435 Ford_Prefect

See: Bill Clinton.

Twice.

439 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:22:06am

re: #435 Ford_Prefect

Good point. I feel much shame.

440 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:22:15am

re: #428 Wyatt Earp

Yeah, I think Zimbabwe is at the top of the "not good" list. Their paper currency isn't worth wiping your posterior.


The ultimate result of communism. Zimbabwe is coming attractions for Venezuela in 10 years, by the way.

441 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:22:22am

re: #431 laZardo

What's really scary is how like Mussolini/Hitler this guy is with charming the vacuous youth of the age.

442 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:23:15am

re: #436 rightside

Hey dorian, been working midnights past couple weeks, but peeking my head in occasionally...how's SD, and the vette?

Insane Diego is well Insane as ever, but the weather is great... The vette is almost fixed, just have to realign the real wheels...

443 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:23:30am

re: #434 Wyatt Earp

Great poll in the WSJ this week showing McCain leading every important category with the voters. Obama? He leads categories such as likeability and compassion. Give me a break! Is it possible that the American voters are dumb enough to elect this tool on "style" alone?

Yes. Sad but true. The hope is that when people actually go to vote, better judgement will kick in & they will avoid buyers remorse.

444 Jed 1899  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:23:45am

re: #434 Wyatt Earp

See Sheeple.

445 rightside  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:24:01am

re: #442 doriangrey

Good to hear...I miss the weather there, and the Fry's, but that's about all LOL!

446 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:25:06am

re: #445 rightside

Good to hear...I miss the weather there, and the Fry's, but that's about all LOL!

Heh heh heh well it certainly does help that I live way out in the toolies....

447 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:25:33am

'Zup, all y'all.

Say you're a candidate for POTUS. Say America has some troubles. Little things, but troubling nonetheless. Stuff like inflation rearing its ugly head, a housing bubble pricked, energy prices on a rocket ride to who-knows-where, porous borders putting the entire citizenry in jeopardy, cities with murder rates higher than the death rates in war zones, that group described as 'America's native criminal class' with approval rates in the single digits.

So what do you complain about?

American troopers watching Fox News Channel.

Way to stay classy, Obama.

448 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:26:00am

re: #434 Wyatt Earp

Yes.

449 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:26:51am

re: #448 razorbacker

Great. So, basically, we're doomed as a country.

450 CIA Reject  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:27:30am

re: #425 3 wood

It's a mixed bag.

To the extent that the US interest rates are lower in relative terms, the dollar will depreciate as capital flows towards the higher interest rates elsewhere. But, once the fear of inflation gets instilled, capital will tend to flow back to the US as the US goods are cheaper for other's to buy and as capital runs away from the inflation to keep purchasing power.

The US tends to be better at fighting inflation than most other countrys, for a whole lot of technical reasons I won't bore you with.

Upshot is, we will be fine once oil prices settle down.

OK, I think I got it: "The patient will recover if he doesn't die first" :-)

451 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:27:49am

re: #433 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards, rightside... long time no see....


Here's your Coffee Dorian.. xtra cream and sugar..

452 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:29:27am

re: #348 Teacake!

Morning all! I don't have a TV but I wouldn't believe news reports anyhow.

We have another DISASTER going on here in New Orleans. A HUGE oil spill occurred here in the Mississippi river! The river is closed for at least 3 weeks during clean up. Some unlicensed tug boat drivers created some sort of boat crash and one was carrying oil. I smelled something horrible yesterday thinking I spilled some chemicals that I didn't know i had, but I didn't have anything. Then, a neighbor thought the smell was exhaust from the workers on the street.

Only to find out this is unrefined oil, with lots of benzine. I have no idea if we will need to leave town or not during the clean up because our water supply comes from the river.

I wish I had some water filters. As it is they are saying not to drink the water. I don't even know if I can bathe as the water in the tap smells very chemical-ley. This is really bad and I doubt we will get any real information about what's going on as far as health and safety are concerned.

Bush didn't do it, so it's not news. Sorry.

Seriously, that's horrifying. I saw one article yesterday that said nobody was hurt, and "oh by the way, there are a million gallons of diesel in the river".

---
aside, not relevant:

Nice nickname. In high school, my friends and I had a running joke where somebody would say "Teacake" and we'd all respond "He so sweet!". That was the only thing we got out of that stupid book.

(That doesn't sound funny in print, but please remember, this was the mid-90s, the era of Jim Carey and Adam Sandler, when surreal things said in a funny voice were enough to crack you up.)

453 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:29:42am

re: #444 Jed 1899

See Sheeple.

America does not deserve the government that it will get, but it will deserve the government that it gets.... Getting what you deserve and deserving what you get really are two different things.

454 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:30:26am

re: #451 HoosierHoops

Here's your Coffee Dorian.. xtra cream and sugar..

You are a life saver and a fine human being HoosierHoops..... ;)

455 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:31:10am

re: #432 Ford_Prefect

Partly both. Born in San Francisco (and named after it) but both my parents were Filipino citizens by birth so they took me over here for my K-12. Spent a couple years in community college in Sacramento but ended up back here because actual college Stateside is [expletive deleted]ing expensive.

456 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:32:03am

re: #434 Wyatt Earp

If he's not Republican, the younger voters will turn out in DROVES on those points alone.

/see above posts regarding Phil Gramm...

457 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:32:30am

re: #455 laZardo

Partly both. Born in San Francisco (and named after it) but both my parents were Filipino citizens by birth so they took me over here for my K-12. Spent a couple years in community college in Sacramento but ended up back here because actual college Stateside is [expletive deleted]ing expensive.

Hey communist indoctrination ain't free ya know....

458 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:32:37am

re: #429 unreconstructed rebel

I heard someone else say the other day that 2008 will long be remembered for the time when what is left of objective MSM journalism took it's last few shuddering breaths and died.

I think most MSM news broadcasts should have to be listed as campaign contributions for the democrats.

459 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:33:35am

re: #454 doriangrey

You are a life saver and a fine human being HoosierHoops..... ;)

lol
I was out your way in May.. I rented a beach house in oceanside for 2 weeks..Remember when that retired guy got killed by the great White at Solana Beach? We had been there about 3 days...

460 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:33:43am

re: #449 Wyatt Earp

Great. So, basically, we're doomed as a country.

Nah, I don't think so.

The media is in the tank, the chattering classes as a group are in the tank, polls indicate a slim lead. But the election hasn't taken place. Funny things, elections. They don't always mirror poll predictions.

Now my views are tinted by my residence in a rural area. I don't get the full-on moonbattery you fortunate sons do in the cities.

461 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:34:11am

re: #458 3 wood

I heard someone else say the other day that 2008 will long be remembered for the time when what is left of objective MSM journalism took it's last few shuddering breaths and died.

I think most MSM news broadcasts should have to be listed as campaign contributions for the democrats.

ROTFLMAO....................objective MSM journalism now thats got to be the great grand father of all oxymoron's....

462 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:34:14am

re: #434 Wyatt Earp

Is it possible that the American voters are dumb enough to elect this tool on "style" alone?

Absolutely. Remember Bill Clinton?

463 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:35:33am

re: #459 HoosierHoops

lol
I was out your way in May.. I rented a beach house in oceanside for 2 weeks..Remember when that retired guy got killed by the great White at Solana Beach? We had been there about 3 days...

Yikes.... what a horrible way to enjoy the beach....

464 CIA Reject  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:36:18am

re: #462 3 wood

Absolutely. Remember Bill Clinton?

Yeah, and he was a two-timer! Eh, I mean two-termer, yeah, htat's it...

465 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:36:26am

re: #457 doriangrey

I went to this school for most of my K-12, and had mandatory MUN service along with the usual youth immersion in the pools of ecoprop.

It was a fairly ritzy place, but the crashing exchange rate during the time (Asian Economic Crisis, late 90s) combined with having a relative working overseas (coincidentally, with the UNMIK) made it affordable.

466 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:36:46am

re: #460 razorbacker

Nah, I don't think so.

The media is in the tank, the chattering classes as a group are in the tank, polls indicate a slim lead. But the election hasn't taken place. Funny things, elections. They don't always mirror poll predictions.

Now my views are tinted by my residence in a rural area. I don't get the full-on moonbattery you fortunate sons do in the cities.

Thank god for rural (fly over) area's... Yes I live in a rural section of Insane Diego county....

467 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:37:26am

re: #443 opnion

Yes. Sad but true. The hope is that when people actually go to vote, better judgement will kick in & they will avoid buyers remorse.

One can only hope. But I have worked in Sate/local government at times and have learned that a lot of voters only know what they see on TV and they have a memory of about 18 months.

468 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:38:01am

Good Morning Lizards!

Beautiful day in Las Cruces, USA!

Tomorrow night and Saturday Dolly will dump a deluge on us, but we don't complain much about rain in the desert, do we?

And Happy ME! I found an old friend online. I used to sing with this man 20 years ago and recorded the album "All Our Own Work" with him in 1987.

469 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:38:11am

re: #464 CIA Reject

Yeah, and he was a two-timer! Eh, I mean two-termer, yeah, htat's it...

You were right the first time, only the Mrs. really did not mind, I hear.

470 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:39:10am

re: #466 doriangrey

Unfortunately, I live in The People's Republic of Philadelphia. We haven't had a Republican mayor since the early 50's. And how's that working out for us?

471 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:39:59am

re: #468 songbird

Good Morning Lizards!

Beautiful day in Las Cruces, USA!

Tomorrow night and Saturday Dolly will dump a deluge on us, but we don't complain much about rain in the desert, do we?

And Happy ME! I found an old friend online. I used to sing with this man 20 years ago and recorded the album "All Our Own Work" with him in 1987.

Congratulation songbird.... Oh and good morning........

472 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:41:05am

re: #455 laZardo

Partly both. Born in San Francisco (and named after it) but both my parents were Filipino citizens by birth so they took me over here for my K-12. Spent a couple years in community college in Sacramento but ended up back here because actual college Stateside is [expletive deleted]ing expensive.

I hope you have thanked them for not making you go through K-12 in San Francisco. Otherwise you would probably be a KOS KID right now.

473 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:42:12am

re: #471 doriangrey

Good morning to you, Dorian!

474 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:42:52am

re: #470 Wyatt Earp

Unfortunately, I live in The People's Republic of Philadelphia. We haven't had a Republican mayor since the early 50's. And how's that working out for us?

Sorry about your luck, I moved from the greater San Diego metropolitan area out to the boonies because it was getting just plain to insane in the city. Haven't regretted the move once. Not even when the wildfires were threatening my home...

475 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:44:25am

re: #474 doriangrey

Unfortunately, police officers have to live inside the city limits, so I'm stuck. Best job in the world (detective) and I can easily work for 30 more years without a complaint, but the city itself is a libtard hippie haven run by inept, crooked politicians.

Everything a growing boy needs.

476 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:46:16am

re: #475 Wyatt Earp

Unfortunately, police officers have to live inside the city limits, so I'm stuck. Best job in the world (detective) and I can easily work for 30 more years without a complaint, but the city itself is a libtard hippie haven run by inept, crooked politicians.

Everything a growing boy needs.

Good god man, I couldn't be a cop for any reason. I could never stand the cynicism that becomes ingrained in a person as a result of that line of work.

477 rightside  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:46:21am

re: #474 doriangrey

Smart move!

478 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:46:29am

re: #472 Ford_Prefect

Heh, thought about that possibility, though I actually spent my Kindergarten in a Christian institution before moving here.

I would probably have turned out a Kos Kid if I'd played along with the other kids in that school, actually. Many of them were kids of local celebs and politicians. What happened was this actor's kid picked a fight with me and even though I lost, I was the "sacrificial lamb" to help the school save face and prevent my family from being sued to the last penny.

/crazy how things work out.

479 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:48:00am

re: #478 laZardo

Heh, thought about that possibility, though I actually spent my Kindergarten in a Christian institution before moving here.

I would probably have turned out a Kos Kid if I'd played along with the other kids in that school, actually. Many of them were kids of local celebs and politicians. What happened was this actor's kid picked a fight with me and even though I lost, I was the "sacrificial lamb" to help the school save face and prevent my family from being sued to the last penny.

/crazy how things work out.

Hell hath no furry like the parents of a rich kid with a bloody nose...

480 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:49:16am

re: #477 rightside

Smart move!

My momma may have raised someone dumb enough to choose Rock Star as a profession, but she didnt raise no fool...

481 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:49:26am

re: #479 doriangrey

Hell hath no furry like the parents of a rich kid with a bloody nose...

Those furries are always hating on us scalies. ;.=.;

/lol

482 maddogg  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:49:31am

How To Save the Airlines

Dump the male flight attendants. No one wanted them in the first place.
Replace all the female flight attendants with good-looking strippers!
What the hell -- They don't even serve food anymore, so what's the loss?
The strippers would at least triple the alcohol sales and get a 'party
atmosphere' going in the cabin. And, of course, every businessman in
this country would start flying again, hoping to see naked women.
Because of the tips, female flight attendants wouldn't need a salary,
thus saving even more money.

Muslims would be afraid to get on the planes for fear of seeing naked
women. Hijackings would come to a screeching halt, and the airline
industry would see record revenues.

This is definitely a win- win situation if we handle it right -- a
golden opportunity to turn a liability into an asset.

Why didn't Bush think of this? Why do I still have to do everything
myself? Sincerely,

Bill Clinton

483 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:50:14am

re: #478 laZardo

Heh, thought about that possibility, though I actually spent my Kindergarten in a Christian institution before moving here.

I would probably have turned out a Kos Kid if I'd played along with the other kids in that school, actually. Many of them were kids of local celebs and politicians. What happened was this actor's kid picked a fight with me and even though I lost, I was the "sacrificial lamb" to help the school save face and prevent my family from being sued to the last penny.

/crazy how things work out.


I would say in the long run you won.

484 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:50:49am

re: #481 laZardo

Those furries are always hating on us scalies. ;.=.;

/lol

DOH.....................................

485 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:51:40am

re: #482 maddogg

No wonder the Republicans never get the hormonal, nerdy teenage male vote. (;

486 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:51:58am

re: #474 doriangrey

I've a sister living in San Diego. I love her like...well...a sister, but she strikes me as a proto-Californian.

Slim, well-built, cute as a puppy in a little red wagon, affectionate, outgoing, empathetic, and good-hearted.

And not a brain in her pretty little head. So it's best that she lives in a city. Where it's easier to make your way without actually doing anything useful, and a larger universe of potential benefactors.

487 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:52:43am

re: #485 laZardo

No wonder the Republicans never get the hormonal, nerdy teenage male vote. (;

Oh I don't know. Reagan got mine.

488 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:53:21am

re: #486 razorbacker

I've a sister living in San Diego. I love her like...well...a sister, but she strikes me as a proto-Californian.

Slim, well-built, cute as a puppy in a little red wagon, affectionate, outgoing, empathetic, and good-hearted.

And not a brain in her pretty little head. So it's best that she lives in a city. Where it's easier to make your way without actually doing anything useful, and a larger universe of potential benefactors.

ROTFLMAO..................Sounds like the girl for me....

489 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:53:56am

re: #482 maddogg

Take heart, maddog. They laughed at Fulton when he invented the light bulb, too.

So he busted that sucker and went boating.

490 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:54:31am

re: #473 songbird

Good morning to you, Dorian!


{SongBird}
good morning and how are you?

491 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:54:51am

re: #489 razorbacker

Take heart, maddog. They laughed at Fulton when he invented the light bulb, too.

So he busted that sucker and went boating.

ROTFLMAO...............That'll learn em somthin....

492 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:55:10am

re: #486 razorbacker

I've a sister living in San Diego. I love her like...well...a sister, but she strikes me as a proto-Californian.

Slim, well-built, cute as a puppy in a little red wagon, affectionate, outgoing, empathetic, and good-hearted.

And not a brain in her pretty little head. So it's best that she lives in a city. Where it's easier to make your way without actually doing anything useful, and a larger universe of potential benefactors.

Sounds like you need a nice conservative gent to take care of her and get her to vote properly. I'm here to help...

493 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:55:46am

re: #483 Ford_Prefect

I was but a year of age when Bush the First got himself into office. >_> Experience here taught me never to trust an actor for a Presidental spot though.

494 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:55:56am

re: #492 christheprofessor

Sounds like you need a nice conservative gent to take care of her and get her to vote properly. I'm here to help...

BACK OFF chris, he told me about her first..... ;P

495 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:56:52am

Well, I need to get back to work (or at least pretend to).

Keep those legs a-tingling.

496 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:57:35am

re: #493 laZardo

I was but a year of age when Bush the First got himself into office. >_> Experience here taught me never to trust an actor for a Presidental spot though.

Funny, best President we ever had was a former actor...

497 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:57:44am

re: #494 doriangrey

BACK OFF chris, he told me about her first..... ;P

That's Christ to you Dorian
/

498 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:57:54am

re: #492 christheprofessor

re: #494 doriangrey

Back off, these girls prefer the young'uns. Nobody would ever expect a 21-year-old San Franciscan to vote "properly."

499 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:58:32am

re: #494 doriangrey

Well, you are probably closer by anyhoo... Long distance relationships just don't work well, in my experience, as well...

500 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:59:26am

Good morning folks. Great analysis of the media's relationship to Obama here:

Runaway

...the press have already built him up to the point where they need him more than he needs them. He has become the story. Without him there would be no headlines; no sales. The storyline alternative to BHO is John McCain. And John McCain doesn’t sell newspapers. Obama is now larger than the coverage itself and is able to dictate the terms of access; which outlets to punish or reward. Maybe the Press is discovering what Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson and Tony Rezko have long since found out: that they are not as important as they thought they were. But Obama is. And if the Washington Post has suddenly discovered (when did they find out?) that BHO is actually promising to throw a strategic country in the Middle East to the wolves and deploy troops to where Osama Bin Laden isn’t, unless he invades the neighboring country, then so what?

He’s no longer just running for President but striding forward to claim his destiny. Once the expectation of an Obama victory exceeds a certain point an actual electoral defeat would cause psychological damage to the trust mechanisms of political system, like a long announced celebration party or holiday that unaccountably never happens.

501 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:59:26am

re: #499 christheprofessor

Well, you are probably closer by anyhoo... Long distance relationships just don't work well, in my experience, as well...

Thats right, home turf advantage goes to doriangrey.... ;P

502 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 5:59:51am
503 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:00:04am

re: #492 christheprofessor

Sounds like you need a nice conservative gent to take care of her and get her to vote properly. I'm here to help...

Friend, the term 'high-maintenance' was invented for her. Pretty happens, but beauty is created.

The good thing is, before elections she'll call me, "Big Brother, who do I vote for this time?"

So she's not a total loss.

Now that I think about it, there are a dozen or so who ask who to vote for. They don't bother to pay attention, and know that I do.

504 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:00:11am

re: #498 laZardo

re: #494 doriangrey

Back off, these girls prefer the young'uns. Nobody would ever expect a 21-year-old San Franciscan to vote "properly."

With the proper filling of the empty head, even a young San Franciscan can vote properly. I hope...

505 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:01:42am

re: #503 razorbacker

I've had one high maintentance woman in my life, and that was enough! Thanks for the warning...

Dorian -- she's all yours!

506 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:02:05am

re: #496 doriangrey

Even though he did keep some rather unsavory company in his circle of friends.

/attempting mental reconciliation...

507 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:02:16am

re: #503 razorbacker

Friend, the term 'high-maintenance' was invented for her. Pretty happens, but beauty is created.

The good thing is, before elections she'll call me, "Big Brother, who do I vote for this time?"

So she's not a total loss.

Now that I think about it, there are a dozen or so who ask who to vote for. They don't bother to pay attention, and know that I do.

Heh heh heh if she knows what high-maintenance is she will know how to take care of me, cause I am high-maintenance.................... ;P lol...lol..lol...

508 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:02:58am

Even the WaPois starting to notice something fishy:

Mr. Obama in Iraq
Did he really find support for his withdrawal plan?

THE INITIAL MEDIA coverage of Barack Obama's visit to Iraq suggested that the Democratic candidate found agreement with his plan to withdraw all U.S. combat forces on a 16-month timetable. So it seems worthwhile to point out that, by Mr. Obama's own account, neither U.S. commanders nor Iraq's principal political leaders actually support his strategy.

...Yet Mr. Obama's account of his strategic vision remains eccentric. He insists that Afghanistan is "the central front" for the United States, along with the border areas of Pakistan. But there are no known al-Qaeda bases in Afghanistan, and any additional U.S. forces sent there would not be able to operate in the Pakistani territories where Osama bin Laden is headquartered. While the United States has an interest in preventing the resurgence of the Afghan Taliban, the country's strategic importance pales beside that of Iraq, which lies at the geopolitical center of the Middle East and contains some of the world's largest oil reserves. If Mr. Obama's antiwar stance has blinded him to those realities, that could prove far more debilitating to him as president than any particular timetable.

509 doriangrey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:04:15am

Well folks, time again for me to run off to work, as the saying goes (especially since I am driving the Camery instead of my vette) I'm off and running like a herd of turtles...

510 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:05:23am

re: #509 doriangrey

Cheers, mate.

511 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:06:47am

re: #507 doriangrey

Heh heh heh if she knows what high-maintenance is she will know how to take care of me, cause I am high-maintenance.................... ;P lol...lol..lol...

She took her first husband for 2.5 mil. and blew through that in under 5 years. Got 2 houses in the hills and enough cash to burn a wet mule from the second, and is about through that.

I have to love her, she's my sister.

512 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:06:50am

re: #496 doriangrey

Funny, best President we ever had was a former actor...

Amen to that.

513 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:06:50am

re: #504 christheprofessor

Once a San Franciscan's head is filled, it'll take a LONG time to empty out, if at all. And that's regardless of who fills it. Better get there first.

514 mrsoc  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:07:11am

Please does anyone know why Firefox 3.0.1 keeps crashing? It is driving me crazy. Also what is wrong with Flash 9? Do I have Hitler's karma or what?

515 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:08:06am

re: #513 laZardo

Unfortunately, I couldn't get there for at least a week. By then it might be too late!

516 maddogg  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:09:07am

SHIPWRECKED:
A man was washed up on a beach after a terrible shipwreck. Only a sheep and a sheepdog were washed up with him. After looking around, he realized that they were stranded on a deserted island.
After being there awhile, he got into the habit of taking his two animal companions to the beach every evening to watch the sunset. One particular evening, the sky was a fiery red with beautiful cirrus clouds, the breeze was warm and gentle - a perfect night for romance.
As they sat there, the sheep started looking better and better to the lonely man. Soon, he leaned over to the sheep and put his arm around it.
But the sheepdog, ever protective of the sheep, growled fiercely until the man took his arm from around the sheep.
After that, the three of them continued to enjoy the sunsets together, but there was no more cuddling.
A few weeks passed by and, lo and behold, there was another shipwreck. The only survivor was Hillary Clinton.
That evening, the man brought Hillary to the evening beach ritual. It was another beautiful evening - red sky, cirrus clouds, a warm and gentle breeze - perfect for a night of romance. Pretty soon, the man started to get 'those feelings' again..
He fought the urges as long as he could but he finally gave in and leaned over to Hillary and told her he hadn't had sex for months. Hillary batted her eyelashes and asked if there was anything she could do for him.
He said, 'Would you mind taking the dog for a walk?

517 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:09:29am

re: #490 HoosierHoops

{SongBird}
good morning and how are you?

I'm doing alright. Today is a paperwork day (and I'm not a big paperwork fan) but things have to be done. Especially before School starts again.

Tomorrow we plan to go to our local water park before Dolly comes and drenches us, so that will be a welcome reward. Mr. Songbird has been working crazy hours and 12 hour days, so he's ready for his Friday off.

518 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:11:06am

Mornin' all. It appears the McCain campaign maybe doing something right. They're running ads in Berlin and Paris. Berlin Ohio, and 3 Paris' here in the states to run while obambi is in those Eurostan cities. Heh.

519 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:11:39am

Morning Everyone,

What's on the wires this fine morning?

and has anyone seen/heard of the new HBO Mini-Series "Generation Kill"?

I watched the first two episodes On Demand. Very satisfying.

520 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:12:00am

re: #516 maddogg

LOL

521 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:13:26am

I found this PR on Obama's Senate webpage:

Senate Banking Committee Passes Obama Provisions on Divestment in Iran Sanctions Bill Thursday, July 17, 2008

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Michael Ortiz, 202 228 5566

WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senator Barack Obama today applauded the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee's passage of the Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability and Divestment Act of 2008, which includes provisions Obama offered last year in the Iran Sanctions Enabling Act of 2007 (S. 1430). "The Obama provisions" clarify that state and local governments can divest from companies that invest $20 million or more in Iran's energy sector and provide safe harbor for private fund managers who divest from such companies. The Committee approved the measure by a vote of 19 to 2.

"Preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons is a vital national security priority. In addition to an aggressive, direct, and principled diplomatic effort, we must continue to increase economic pressure on Iran to convince its government to halt its nuclear program, support for terrorist activity, and threats toward Israel.

"This important bipartisan legislation will allow state and local governments and private fund managers to divest from companies that support Iran's energy sector, reducing the revenue Iran uses to expand its nuclear program and sponsor terrorist groups like Hezbollah and Hamas.

"I commend Chairman Dodd for his leadership on this important issue, and I call on the Senate to quickly pass this legislation."

So last week, he only claimed to have offered some provisions to the committee which they included in the act. Yesterday, he claimed it was "my committee".

522 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:14:30am

re: #516 maddogg

nice :p

523 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:15:12am

re: #518 pingjockey

LOL. They should run ads in Manila, too.

524 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:15:25am

re: #516 maddogg

eww!

525 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:16:45am

re: #508 Kenneth

Even the WaPois starting to notice something fishy:
Mr. Obama in Iraq
...Obama's account of his strategic vision remains eccentric.
...Obama's antiwar stance has blinded him to those realities

This is certainly a refreshing MSM assessment of Obama's mental problems. But the WaPo needn't worry - both Obama's "strategic vision" and his "antiwar stance" have and will continue to CHANGE in accordance with the political exigencies of the moment.

526 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:17:52am

See all y'all later. I'm going off to annoy someone in realtime.

But first, two items from Frank J. of IMAO.

Obama is touring the Middle East now, I really wonder if Obama's childlike enthusiasm is what that region needs to achieve peace. They've never heard of hope and change before -- there aren't even words for that in Arabic -- but Obama is doing is best to communicate his message thought broad arm movements and smiles.

It all has to be very exciting for Obama too, and I'm worried about him getting over-stimulated with all the new things for him to learn. First he got showed where he was on a map; I don't know if he understood that too well, but he did fold the map into a neat hat. Later, Obama got to see Israel and was told they have no friends in the region. Obama then said, "Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s." That being a true statement, he was given a cookie.

Obama also got to meet the troops -- or as he calls them, "the scary bad men with guns." When one asked him about how he would implement his policy on Iraq, Obama started crying until he was given some arugula to chew on.

And for the conservatives out there...


So, with no horse in this election, what are conservatives to do? We watch. We listen. We learn. We plot our revenge.

Yes, we stick to the background, preparing for our inevitable return. Our enemies will grow complacent, thinking they've defeated us, but when they least expect it, we'll strike, unleashing destruction on them like a tax-cutting Cloverfield, smashing through government programs with an insane glee. The streets will run red with the blood of liberals, they're fascist frivolities torn apart. They will beg for mercy, but they might as well beg for unicorns because mercy does not exist.

It will be beautiful.

Our first target will be take over the Republican Party. Instead of the corpulent slob it is now, we want a lean beast ready for violence. No more open tent; instead, it will be like one of those tents Navy SEALs make where you could be standing two feet in front of it and not see it. And it's filled with people ready to kill. That's the Republican Party I remember. Perhaps we can even get them to the point they're more like an urban legend.

"Ever hear of the Republican Party? They say they come in the middle of the night to eat babies and cut taxes. I heard something the other night, and when I went outside to check on it, I found a flag pin on the ground. I'm so scared!"

Fear will be our tool. Anytime politicians our about to pass some law, we want them to think to themselves, "What will the conservatives think of this? What will they do? I can't possibly protect myself from them! They could be anywhere!" Even when not in power, we will be ever present. Then, when the time is right, we will take power again with such force as to destroy all opposition. The country will be back in the hands of its rightful owners, and soon the rest of the world will fall to our might.

We will not be stopped this time.

IMAO

527 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:18:07am

Good morning all y'all from a pleasant (67 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
For a change no T-Storm warnings for today/tonight either!
Last night a lightning bolt hit a car in our parking lot, maybe 75 feet from our apartment living room (ground floor apartment) and the SOUND and the smell were just incredible!

So how is everyone this morning?

528 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:18:38am

re: #525 sparrowlake

Oh, no doubt the Obamatons will start wringing their hands about how the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" has finally taken over the "free press".

529 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:19:16am
530 laZardo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:19:49am

Gonna engorge in some video gaming fun now. Call it the meds that keep the cynicism from (completely) devouring my existence. (; Laters.

531 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:21:36am

Oh, and not to take any shots at any lizards who are fans of the NE Patriots, but there's an interesting article on the World Champion New York Giants here: [Link: www.reuters.com...]

532 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:24:10am

re: #514 mrsoc

Do I have Hitler's karma or what?

Now there's an insulting and moronic rhetorical question if I ever heard one.

533 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:24:39am

re: #523 laZardo
Hey my moms from Arkansas and I didn't know they had a Manila. BTW, got caught in rush hour in Manila, RP. What a experience that was!

534 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:25:16am

re: #530 laZardo

Gonna engorge in some video gaming fun now. Call it the meds that keep the cynicism from (completely) devouring my existence. (; Laters.

"engorge"? That used to happen to me when my baby did not nurse on time!

535 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:26:20am

Greets and saluts from the soggy NYC metro area. While we're not getting Dolly-type rain, we are expecting some flooding and major inconveniences as up to 6 inches may fall in parts of the greater NYC area.

Meanwhile, half a world away, Obama has made his pronouncement on Iran - that he will do what he can to keep Iran from getting nukes.

Well, that's great.

He will jaw jaw, while the Iranians prepare for war war.

Expect him to try and put more pressure on Israel to give up whatever nuclear program Israel has in exchange for a promise from Iran to do so with theirs. I don't have to tell you that the consequences of such actions would be dire for Israel.

536 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:27:07am
537 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:28:51am

Obambi ich bin ein hosehead.

538 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:29:20am

re: #536 Kenneth
ROTFLMAO! Good morning Kenneth, how are you today?

539 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:29:53am

re: #527 realwest

Hi Real.
Wow, they would've had to peel me off the ceiling after a fireworks display like that! Did the gas tank explode?

540 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:32:07am

re: #527 realwest
Loud isn't the word to describe the noise. Undamnbelievable, it is like being inside a light bulb. Got caught on top of a ridge way up in the Cascades during a t-storm. Awesome.

541 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:32:58am

re: #539 sparrowlake
Hi back - nope the gas tank didn't explode (and a good thing, too or we woulda had pieces of a Toyota all over our living room and us!). We had our blinds drawn and all we saw was this incredible
FLASH OF LIGHT - it was sorta quivering like a spastic strobe light, only much brighter - and the BOOM as it hit, then the smell! Geez, I was a little bit nervous there!

542 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:33:06am

re: #534 songbird

"engorge"? That used to happen to me when my baby did not nurse on time!

LOL. Guess it might depend on what kind of weird video games are being played.

543 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:33:59am

re: #540 pingjockey
Well I don't know any other word to describe it KABLOOM seems sorta comic bookey to me! LOL!

544 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:34:42am

re: #538 realwest

I'm doing fine, thanks. I hope you're ft as a fiddle. Cool & rainy up here today.

545 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:36:53am

re: #533 pingjockey

Hey my moms from Arkansas and I didn't know they had a Manila. BTW, got caught in rush hour in Manila, RP. What a experience that was!

Ping,

We have Manila, Paris, Stuttgart, Ulm, England, Slovak, Washington, Tichnor, Gillette, 56, Pickles Gap, Pendleton, Dumas, Romance, Hogeye, Sherwood, Aux Arc (Ozark), Oark, Figure 5, etc. And that's just off the top of my head.

Basically, Arkies are too lazy to come up with a new name, we just name it for where we come from, or for whatever tickles our fancy at the moment.

546 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:37:28am

re: #543 realwestClose enough. IIRC it was more like being inside the sound, if that makes any sense. Helluva an adventure though.

547 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:38:06am

re: #545 razorbacker
Melbourne, that where moms kin folks are.

548 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:38:34am

re: #544 Kenneth Yep, I'm as fit as a fiddle with a cracked back and twisted neck! LOL!
All I know is: if they start complaining about our having a drought down here this year, I'm seriously gonna hurt someone! We've gotten something close to 5 inches since this time last week when our reservoirs were 94% full and they still had a drought alert on (last week, I mean).

549 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:38:56am

Coffee's done. So I'm off. See all y'all later.

550 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:39:36am

Ha. FNC wanted to talk to the donks about them wanting to raise the gas tax, none of them would appear. So you've got Demint from SC slamming the donks and their taxes.

551 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:40:04am

re: #546 pingjockey Uh, no we didn't feel as if we were inside of it, it pretty clearly came from our direct front, but it coulda passed for surround sound TV with the volume dial at 15! LOL!

552 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:40:48am

re: #551 realwest
Hahaha! Got your attention didn't it.

553 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:42:46am

Just saw an ad about Hype, movie about the obambi affect. Any of you lizards ever heard about it?

554 tfc3rid  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:43:30am

re: #550 pingjockey

Ha. FNC wanted to talk to the donks about them wanting to raise the gas tax, none of them would appear. So you've got Demint from SC slamming the donks and their taxes.

I like DeMint a lot... If there was a Governor running on the GOP side, they would consider DeMint for Veep, no question about it...

555 rawmuse  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:43:41am

Good morning, Lizards! I am off today to rejoin the retreat, having made a home call to open mail, do some laundry, etc. I will check back in around Sunday. Keep the heat on.

556 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:43:53am

"obviously Berlin is representative of the extraordinary success of the post-World War II effort to bring the continent together and to bring the West together" -Obama Campaign statement

The historical parallel is one Obama might not want to draw. 60 years ago, President Truman's advisers told him he should withdraw US troops and cut off aid. The mood in Congress was that the US taxpayer had already spent too much money on Germany, after US troops had spent too much in blood. But Truman bucked conventional wisdom and increased US aid & military commitments to Germany. Truman recognized the grave danger to the east, the growing Soviet Empire, which threatened not only West Germany, but all of Western Europe. America would not abandon this strategic region to the Soviets. Germany is united, democratic & free today because the US president stood his ground in 1948.

Now jump forward 60 years. The US has spent much in treasure & blood in Iraq, where there is a growing threat to the east , Iran. But Obama insists on abandoning Iraq & cutting a deal with Iran. This will imperil all of the Middle East, arguably as strategically important to the US today as Western Europe was 60 years ago.

557 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:44:12am

re: #553 pingjockey

Just saw an ad about Hype, movie about the obambi affect. Any of you lizards ever heard about it?


Woah, a movie about the Obambi effect?

Must be an independent director. How does it look?

...

Oh wait, is it critical of the effect or is it more of an "all-hail the Obamessiah" type thing?

558 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:44:18am

re: #535 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk!
From your link:
"Asked, therefore, whether having backed Israel's air strike on a Syrian nuclear facility last September, he would support an Israeli strike on Iranian facilities in the coming months if Israel felt it had no choice but to act, Obama replied, "My goal is to avoid being confronted with that hypothetical."
This guy is SUCH an EMPTY SUIT - no experience at all - I'd wager that Presidents and the national security team (including Joint Chiefs of Staff) have to deal with hypotheticals ALL THE DAMN TIME.
I still don't get his appeal to rational, thinking, voters. Not at all.

559 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:44:28am

re: #458 3 wood

I heard someone else say the other day that 2008 will long be remembered for the time when what is left of objective MSM journalism took it's last few shuddering breaths and died.

I think most MSM news broadcasts should have to be listed as campaign contributions for the democrats.


Even the pretense of objectivity has been abandoned.
The NY times refusing MCCains rebuttal is very telling.
On the positive side Katie Couric, roughed up Obama a little in her interview. He did not respond well. Must not have had the questions submitted prior.

560 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:44:34am

re: #554 tfc3rid
Don't know anything about him. Too bad to cause he did a good job ripping the donks. Is he a conservative?

561 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:44:59am

New Obama theme song.

562 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:46:02am

re: #553 pingjockey

Just saw an ad about Hype, movie about the obambi affect. Any of you lizards ever heard about it?

Just the commercials on Fox News, LOL.

563 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:46:13am

re: #557 rlevitin
No, it looks like a critical review of the media fawning and outright zealotry of backing an empty suit.

564 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:46:50am

re: #552 pingjockey Sure did! But so did the smell, which kinda lingered for a while - you know, that sorta "ozone" type smell you get just before a thunderstorm?

565 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:47:58am

re: #562 OldLineTexan
How late did you stay up last night? Did you see where my navy has blown 2 1/2 billion dollars on a stealth destroyer that they are going to scrap. Too damn spendy.

566 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:48:17am

re: #556 Kenneth,

When you consider that Iran is just the figurehead of the Mohammedan Caliphate, I'd say that Iraq is as strategically important to the US today as Western Europe was 60 years ago.

And the minions of the Caliphate have already struck a deadlier blow to the US than anything the Soviets ever did. When looking at the growing threat of Iran, we can't forget the harm that the Islamofascists have already inflicted on us.

567 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:48:41am

re: #564 realwest
Yep. kinda smells good/kinda stinks combination.

568 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:48:59am

re: #458 3 wood Hey my friend, don't know if you're still around or have insisted on actually working (!) but please check your non-work e-mail addy's.

569 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:49:29am

Ich bin ein beginner!

The BBC's Steve Rosenberg, in Berlin, says the Illinois senator is very popular in Germany, where surveys suggest three-quarters of people want him to be the next US president.

He says Mr Obama will be hoping that once TV pictures of him addressing cheering crowds of Berliners have been beamed back to America it will boost his image as an international statesman, and his chances of beating Republican rival John McCain this autumn.

I guess that settles the question of BHO qualifications as a statesmen.
/

570 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:50:05am

re: #565 pingjockey I heard that they'd already built two of 'em - what are they gonna do with those two? Any idea?

571 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:51:06am

re: #568 realwest

You get those teeth fixed? Other than that how does this morning find you?

572 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:51:30am

re: #545 razorbacker

Ping,

We have Manila, Paris, Stuttgart, Ulm, England, Slovak, Washington, Tichnor, Gillette, 56, Pickles Gap, Pendleton, Dumas, Romance, Hogeye, Sherwood, Aux Arc (Ozark), Oark, Figure 5, etc. And that's just off the top of my head.

Basically, Arkies are too lazy to come up with a new name, we just name it for where we come from, or for whatever tickles our fancy at the moment.

Haha...a lot of Texans must have passed through Arkansas and gotten jealous...we have Paris, Moscow, New Ulm, Tarzan, Happy, Gun Sight, Gun Barrel City, Point Blank, and Cut and Shoot.

Also Raisin, Rice, Oatmeal, and Noodle.

But I had to look them up (except Cut and Shoot, that's just down the road).

573 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:51:48am

re: #563 pingjockey

No, it looks like a critical review of the media fawning and outright zealotry of backing an empty suit.

Movie Documentary, or some network "special investigative report" type thing?

574 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:52:09am

re: #569 jcm Ah, Kenneth beat ya by about 5 minutes - see his #536!

575 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:53:05am

re: #574 realwest

Ah, Kenneth beat ya by about 5 minutes - see his #536!

LOL! Early lizard gets to ridicule!

576 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:53:54am

re: #570 realwest
The FNC report didn't say. I figure they'll be commisioned and put into service. The price tag was way high. 3 bill a ship. Hell the cruiser I was on only cost 1 bill. :) Apparently the were/are very cutting edge tech wise, hull design, etc... I know my Aegis cruiser had a radar cross section like a damn carrier. The Arleigh Burke class DDG on the other hand has no 90 degree angles anywhere and has a radar cross section like a fishing trawler.

577 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:54:32am

re: #571 jcm Hi jcm, no I STILL haven't gotten a tooth pulled - Oral surgeon told me on Tuesday that he had to consult with my dentist and my endodonitst to make sure he pulled the right tooth and that he'd call me after he had.
I said by all means PULL THE RIGHT TOOTH! LOL!
Don't know what's going on but with my luck my dentist or endo is on vacation this week. Again.

578 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:54:32am

re: #565 pingjockey

How late did you stay up last night? Did you see where my navy has blown 2 1/2 billion dollars on a stealth destroyer that they are going to scrap. Too damn spendy.

No, I missed that. I was up kind of late (well, for a school night), but the boy and I were melting our brains watching Adult Swim cartoons.

I switch over from Fox News before Greta's Murder Mystery Show comes on. I happen to like Greta, but there's only so much repetition and obsessive focus I can take.

Was it a Lockheed design? I remember they were doing some small stealth boats as test beds; I actually saw one on a trip to San Diego once.

579 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:54:39am

re: #569 jcm

I don't know why Obama's team think it will make their man look good to have mobs of hysterical Germans cheering him in front of a military monument in Berlin. That sort of thing sends a shiver down my spine.

580 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:54:49am

re: #573 rlevitin
I think movie, not sure though. Was less than a 30 sec spot.

581 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:55:58am

re: #527 realwest

Good morning all y'all from a pleasant (67 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
For a change no T-Storm warnings for today/tonight either!
Last night a lightning bolt hit a car in our parking lot, maybe 75 feet from our apartment living room (ground floor apartment) and the SOUND and the smell were just incredible!

So how is everyone this morning?


good morning real!
Are ya keeping it real? :)

582 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:56:05am

re: #576 pingjockey Uh, is the Arleigh Burke class DDG the offical name of the class of stealth destroyers?

583 rawmuse  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:56:08am
584 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:56:26am

re: #580 pingjockey

I think movie, not sure though. Was less than a 30 sec spot.

I'll have to check it out when I get home, I can't watch vids while at work. =(

585 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:56:29am

re: #575 jcm

Steve0 posted it last night. He said he got a call from relatives in Germany who told him it was a joke going around. At least among the non-adoring minority.

586 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:56:51am

re: #578 OldLineTexan
I don't know who designed it. The one you saw in Diego, was it the black catamaran? The Sea stealth, IIRC. USN kept it in a covered hangar way down at the end of the base.

587 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:57:03am
588 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:57:27am

re: #583 rawmuse

Barack heckled at Western Wall.

That's not heckling. That's free education.

589 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:57:44am

re: #582 realwest
That is the current class. The new one was going to be named for Zumwalt.

590 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:58:02am

re: #577 realwest

Hi jcm, no I STILL haven't gotten a tooth pulled - Oral surgeon told me on Tuesday that he had to consult with my dentist and my endodonitst to make sure he pulled the right tooth and that he'd call me after he had.
I said by all means PULL THE RIGHT TOOTH! LOL!
Don't know what's going on but with my luck my dentist or endo is on vacation this week. Again.

It ain't their tooth that's hurting, that's for sure.....

591 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:58:24am

re: #581 HoosierHoops
Good morning - as real as it gets! How about you?

592 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:58:58am

Good morning all. Another hot day. Currently dealing with ravenous giganto-baby.

593 Andopolis  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:59:15am
Germany’s negative attitudes extend well beyond Bush to a significant loathing of America, mostly based on its global influence and its success.

Listen, don't mention the war. I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it alright.

594 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 6:59:27am

re: #586 pingjockey

I don't know who designed it. The one you saw in Diego, was it the black catamaran? The Sea stealth, IIRC. USN kept it in a covered hangar way down at the end of the base.

May have been. I don't recall the hull. It was not a big ship, but it was not a dinghy, either.

That same trip, the Marines were practicing amphib landings with the hydrofoils and the big tracked L-somethings. I wish I hadn't been driving so I could have gotten a better look.

595 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:00:30am

re: #582 realwest


Don't think so -- that's the last class of standard dd's -- successors to the Spruance class.


(aptly named, btw)

596 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:00:39am

re: #585 Kenneth

Steve0 posted it last night. He said he got a call from relatives in Germany who told him it was a joke going around. At least among the non-adoring minority.

Some remember the back drop to JFK's and RWR's speeches. They know BHO is a poseur.

597 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:00:42am

re: #592 Lucius Septimius
Growing fast? My younger bros baby is getting ready to crawl, hehehe.
He was absoltely full of advice for me about raising 3 boys. Well now the shoe is on the other foot. Mwahahaha!

598 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:01:07am

re: #592 Lucius Septimius

Good morning all. Another hot day. Currently dealing with ravenous giganto-baby.

Excellent!

The grandson has broken triple-birthweight and is on track for his heart surgery in October. He is also learning to roll over, but he's at that amusing "stuck half-way, now what do I do?" stage. Also blows raspberries on command.

599 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:01:39am

re: #587 taxfreekiller
Well said my friend, but the Constitution has nothing to fear as long as there are active duty troopers/ veterans around. NONE.
We took an Oath and I still abide by it.

600 David Simon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:01:58am

Reuters' employees are either incredibly stupid or incredibly evil:

"There will be minor changes if Obama is elected, but he will never side with the Palestinians against the Israelis. He knows he can't afford that," said Lana Bazzi, 20, a student in Beirut, citing the power of the Jewish lobby in America.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Citing?

601 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:02:09am

re: #594 OldLineTexan

May have been. I don't recall the hull. It was not a big ship, but it was not a dinghy, either.

That same trip, the Marines were practicing amphib landings with the hydrofoils and the big tracked L-somethings. I wish I hadn't been driving so I could have gotten a better look.

We talking about the Shadow?

602 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:02:42am

Obama’s New Berlin Venue: Another Bad Choice

As Andreas Schockenhoff of Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union pointed out, even just this early history of the monument could be enough to give one doubts about Obama’s choice of venue. “The Berlin Victory Column…is dedicated to the victory over neighbors who are today our European friends and allies,” he told the Sunday edition of the popular German tabloid Bild. “I think the symbolism is unfortunate.”

603 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:03:09am

re: #595 Lucius Septimius
Spruance-destroyer, DD
Burke-Destroyer, guided missle, DDG
Aegis-crusier,guided missle CG
My spru can was decommed 2 years ago, O'Brien DD975. Commisioned in 1977.

604 rawmuse  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:03:44am

re: #601 jcm

Nice pic of the SF bay and city scape. Was there a boat in that pic?

605 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:03:46am

re: #589 pingjockey

That is the current class. The new one was going to be named for Zumwalt.

They said they would build 2 only and scrap plans for anymore..

606 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:04:14am

re: #595 Lucius Septimius Good morning Lucius! Uh, what and why is it so "aptly" named? Was Spruance the Cruiser captain that took over command of our 4 remaining carriers after Pearl Harbor?
(caution, I MAY need more coffee here!)!

607 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:04:17am

re: #601 jcm
Probably. The thing is very cool looking.

608 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:04:28am

Guten morgan (is that right?) Lizards. So Obama is popular in Germany? Love to see a video of the Germans cheering on Obama, maybe at the Brandenburg Gate. So reminiscent of the Nazis. Der Fuhrer...er... Obamessiah, ve luf you.

609 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:04:33am

re: #577 realwest

Hi jcm, no I STILL haven't gotten a tooth pulled - Oral surgeon told me on Tuesday that he had to consult with my dentist and my endodonitst to make sure he pulled the right tooth and that he'd call me after he had.
I said by all means PULL THE RIGHT TOOTH! LOL!
Don't know what's going on but with my luck my dentist or endo is on vacation this week. Again.

Hi Real. Doesn't he have the X Rays?

610 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:05:31am

re: #597 pingjockey

re: #598 OldLineTexan


He turned five months yesterday, has doubled his birth weight and is starting to crawl already. With two big brothers and a big sister to keep up with, he needs to get mobile.

OLT -- glad to hear about the grandbaby -- that's great news.

611 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:05:38am

re: #606 realwest
The Rear Adm. who took over for Halsey at Midway. He had been in command of the escorts for Halseys carriers.

612 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:05:52am

re: #601 jcm

We talking about the Shadow?

Wow! That's amazing!

613 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:05:59am

re: #601 jcm

We talking about the Shadow?

Ping is, but my memory's hazy. That's the right size. Was it ever stationed in San Diego near the Marine amphib facility (forget the name)?

614 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:06:31am

Breaking: video of Obama arriving at the Victory Column. Those Berliners sure look happy to see him!

615 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:06:34am

I don't know why Obama's team think it will make their man look good to have mobs of hysterical Germans cheering him in front of a military monument in Berlin. That sort of thing sends a shiver down my spine.

Well, he's banned them from carrying signs so the antiAmerican loons won't be able to spoil his photo op. As for hysterical Germans cheering....you have a point. lol.

The speech is hours away and I'm already feeling the vomit rising in my throat. Oh, I can hear it now, 'Restore America's honor in the world'....wretch....'If only America were more like you'...'You can teach people in Kansas a thing or two'...oh, christ, I don't think I'll be able to get throught it.

616 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:06:34am

re: #591 realwest

Good morning - as real as it gets! How about you?


hehehe
I'm doing great...

617 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:06:52am

re: #601 jcm Huh, is that a ship or a boat? I mean it's tall enough for a ship, but doesn't look like it could carry more than 100 men, total.

618 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:08:02am

re: #613 OldLineTexan
Where you saw the Marines doing assault training is up the coast at Oceanside. The main Naval base is 32nd street south of downtown San Diego. You probably saw the Sea Shadow in the harbor. Once it goes to sea they go out by San Clemnte Island away from prying eyes.

619 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:08:55am

re: #617 realwest
Pure research platform. Could use it for Seals I guess.

620 Jed 1899  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:08:59am

re: #617 realwest
MAV = Marine Assault Vehicle.
WAG = Wild Ass Guess

621 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:09:16am

re: #606 realwest

I knew I wasn't making myself clear.

Arleigh Burke was one of the greatest destroyer commanders of all time -- his exploits with his cans running up the slot are legendary. He also was a severe critic of the Carter admin's neglect of the fleet. Hence it was fitting to name one fo the best designed destroyers ever after him.

Spruance, yes, was the commander of the fifth fleet in WWII. Frankly, he deserves a big ass carrier to be named after him, but that's just my opinion.

622 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:09:43am

re: #609 opnion Yes, he has the x-rays and no I don't know what the bleep the problem is except the tooth that had a root canal 15 years ago is right next to the one I think is hurting which had a maybe half-assed root canal some 11 weeks ago. And no fracture shows on the X-Ray - I yam suspiciuous here!

623 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:10:10am

re: #610 Lucius Septimius

re: #598 OldLineTexan


He turned five months yesterday, has doubled his birth weight and is starting to crawl already. With two big brothers and a big sister to keep up with, he needs to get mobile.

OLT -- glad to hear about the grandbaby -- that's great news.

We are very excited, and even get to visit more. He's on a very restricted exposure regimen to try and keep him healthy as possible. I've held him twice since he was born in January, and you're not allowed to touch him with using hand sanitizer. So I mostly blow a raspberry at him or tickle a leg.

He's a Downs baby, so he's outside of my baby experience. He seems a bit too calm, but he watches his mother like a hawk. ;)

624 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:11:09am

re: #603 pingjockey

Hard to believe the Spruance class is already over 30 years old. Sheesh.

O'Brien is a storied destroyer name.

625 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:11:23am

re: #611 pingjockey What happened to Halsey before Midway? And does that mean I was right about Adm. Spruance?

626 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:11:37am

re: #621 Lucius Septimius
The man was an old school sailor. Really respected him. When my first ship was being built in Pascagoula, MS. got to meet Adm Bulkely. He was the guy in the PT boats who got Macarthur out of the PI at the begining of WWII.

627 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:12:13am

re: #558 realwest

Obama replied, "My goal is to avoid being confronted with that hypothetical."

O was just telling the unvarnished truth. His goal is to avoid the question. Simple.

628 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:12:39am

re: #615 arizona9
Uh, I'd suggest you don't listen to it.
Just sayin..............

629 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:12:44am

re: #613 OldLineTexan

Ping is, but my memory's hazy. That's the right size. Was it ever stationed in San Diego near the Marine amphib facility (forget the name)?



More on IX-529 Shadow.

630 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:12:44am

re: #625 realwest
Yes. Halsey had come down with shingles and was in the hospital.

631 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:13:03am

Dreams from Obama
By David Warren

The most laughable part of the campaign is the new, first-ever, "I am the world" tour, currently in progress. Obama, realizing he has no credentials in this field, but is even more a rock star abroad than at home, seeks photo ops looking presidential in front of backdrops such as the Brandenburg Gate. Of course, he cannot get all the backdrops he wants, since his demand for them as a mere candidate for office is unprecedented, and leaves foreign leaders embarrassed that he asked.

...He has one good, solid argument, in foreign policy: that he is not George W. Bush. Obama would come to power without the cumulative bad press of the hopelessly uncool Texan incumbent.

For the first five minutes of his presidency, Obama would indeed be greeted abroad as the anti-Bush. He would enjoy a shower of popularity, and by extension, America would bathe in the sort of sympathy and solidarity from Europe's intellectuals that was last poured upon her during the five minutes after 9/11. Then he will start making decisions that any American president would have to make, and the honeymoon will mysteriously end. For style without substance is evanescent. It can rule only in the absence of substance.

...Read what Ronald Reagan wrote, in his own hand, and often only to himself, over many years (there is the collection aptly entitled: Reagan, In His Own Hand) -- and you find a man who is consistently thinking about his people and his nation, about what is right and what will work. Then read Obama's Dreams From My Father. It is all about finding himself. It is a well-written book, an interesting piece of literature, but it is strictly narcissistic.

There's that word again!

632 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:14:17am

'Jews control US elections'

Increasing numbers of anti-Semitic cartoons depicting US presidential candidates John McCain and Barack Obama have surfaced throughout the Arab media over the past few weeks.

They don't hate American and the Joos, just George Bush.

Boker effen Tov.

633 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:14:58am

re: #632 Ben Hur
They hate everybody! Even their fellow head choppers.

634 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:15:02am
635 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:15:19am

Good morning, lizards from a rain soaked wind blown South Texas.

636 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:15:56am

re: #629 jcm Crew of 10, and no weapons systems?
Shoot, that could be some billionaire's Yacht! LOL!

637 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:17:07am

re: #635 jorline

Good morning, lizards from a rain soaked wind blown South Texas.

Did you sustain much damage?

638 Andopolis  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:17:52am

re: #635 jorline

Good morning, lizards from a rain soaked wind blown South Texas.

Is Oprah there yet?

639 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:18:34am

re: #635 jorline Hey jorline! Glad you're ok! The weatherheads on TV have been saying the Texas/Mexican coast have been "battered" and "ravaged" by the hurricanes!

640 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:18:40am

re: #636 realwest

My understanding is that it's primarily a test bed for various technologies.

641 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:19:22am

re: #631 Kenneth

Revivisionist would have us believe RWR stumbled into the end of the Soviet era.

Commencement at Eureka College, Ronald Reagan Speech, June 7, 1957

And now today we find ourselves involved in another struggle this time called a cold war. This cold war between great sovereign nations isn't really a new struggle at all. It is the oldest struggle of human kind, as old as man himself. This is a simple struggle between those of us who believe that man has the dignity and sacred right and the ability to choose and shape his own destiny and those who do not so believe. This irreconcilable conflict is between those who believe in the sanctity of individual freedom and those who believe in the upremacy of the state.
642 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:20:07am

re: #636 realwest

Crew of 10, and no weapons systems?
Shoot, that could be some billionaire's Yacht! LOL!

It was a test bed for a larger missile boat.

643 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:21:26am

re: #642 jcm So what are they gonna do with her now? I mean, is it a test bed or have the two stealth destroyers that HAVE been built sorta made it obsolete?

644 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:21:39am

re: #637 songbird

Did you sustain much damage?

In Corpus Christi we've picked up about 8 inches of rain...I amazed at the wind though. Starting at midnight we've had 40-50 mph winds from the squalls...not much sleep last night for the family with the winds and rain beating the windows.

Minor damage here, but family in Harlingen and Raymondville were hit hard...winds clocked at 100 mph and 10 inches of rain.

645 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:21:40am

BEN HUR!

646 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:22:30am

hey lops.

647 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:22:45am

re: #645 loppyd{loppyd}! LOL! How are ya doing this morning good looking?

648 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:23:09am

Hey Lucius!

649 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:23:33am

re: #622 realwest

Yes, he has the x-rays and no I don't know what the bleep the problem is except the tooth that had a root canal 15 years ago is right next to the one I think is hurting which had a maybe half-assed root canal some 11 weeks ago. And no fracture shows on the X-Ray - I yam suspiciuous here!

That sounds about right. The guy really should be able to read the X Ray.
I Got stuck in dental Hell a few years ago. I lost a tooth that had been coming out for a while. Well they wanted oral surgery & bone grafts in all four quadrants. I got a 2nd opnion & a new dentist.
It was a scam.
The new guy sends me for a root canal & the specialist wants to do the wrong tooth. The debate got heated & he finally reread the X rays & got pissed that he was wrong. He does the right tooth & then storms out. WTF?

650 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:23:49am

re: #638 Andopolis

Is Oprah there yet?

No, but I here is going to do a photo-op on the SPI seawall with immigrates that wash ashore...LOL

651 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:23:58am

re: #647 {realwest}

Hey handsome.

I'm hanging in there. Working from home today....

How's by you?

652 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:24:04am

re: #643 realwest

So what are they gonna do with her now? I mean, is it a test bed or have the two stealth destroyers that HAVE been built sorta made it obsolete?

They would have used the data from the testing for the DDG-1000 Zumwalt class.

653 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:24:06am

re: #644 jorline

In Corpus Christi we've picked up about 8 inches of rain...I amazed at the wind though. Starting at midnight we've had 40-50 mph winds from the squalls...not much sleep last night for the family with the winds and rain beating the windows.

Minor damage here, but family in Harlingen and Raymondville were hit hard...winds clocked at 100 mph and 10 inches of rain.

Wow. Glad you and immediate family are ok, and I hope it will not take too much to restore order to damage done.

We get the dregs of Dolly starting tomorrow night and through the weekend

654 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:24:12am

re: #645 loppyd

BEN HUR!


It is I.

655 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:24:17am

re: #641 jcm

I recently read a book of Reagan's writings going back to his days on the radio and some of his other writings. The more I read the more I am convinced that he was the greatest President this country has ever known. A man of true vision and leadership. he never wavered in his beliefs. He wasn't a politician, he was a leader.

656 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:24:46am

re: #625 realwest

He got dry docked for a skin infection of some kind and turned command of the carrier group over to Spruance.

/at least according to the movie (Midway)

657 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:25:43am

re: #643 realwest
Still used for research. The navy is like your crazy aunt, we never throw anything away. :)

658 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:26:36am

re: #645 loppyd

Another good win yesterday! Though it should not have taken extra frames. Bases loaded none out in the sixth and all they got was the one run that got walked in. AAAARRRGGG!

659 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:26:59am

Their making fun of the Obamessiah....

Barack Obama makes a short visit to the manger in Bethlehem where he was born.

660 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:27:11am

Honr killing in Texas? WTF? On FNC now. Sat/Sun on FNC. Yeah lets adapt to their customs. NOT!

661 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:27:27am

re: #639 realwest

Hey jorline! Glad you're ok! The weatherheads on TV have been saying the Texas/Mexican coast have been "battered" and "ravaged" by the hurricanes!

Morning RW...hope you're well.

You know the talking-heads...they always blow everything out of proportion. When hurricane Bret hit several years ago they were showing a building that was torn-up by the storm...truth was that building looked that way for years...LOL

We're hoping the the feeder bands move out by late morning

662 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:27:59am

By the way, appropos to nothing, the latest Daniel Silva book, Moscow Rules, is out. I'm loving it.

Silva is one of the best fiction writers about the middle east, terrorism, Israel...and more. This book is concerning Russia.

663 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:28:10am
"It was rowdier than the last time I was there, you know?" Obama told reporters on the plane. "I mean, people were sort of, like, holerin'. You know I was expecting more reverence."

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

664 ruddoj  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:28:15am

LA has just placed a 'one year ban' on all new fast food establishments in the county......

I guess free enterprise and capitalism have both died today in Los Angeles......

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

665 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:28:49am

re: #663 Ben Hur

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Wouldn't some people say the same thing about your church?

666 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:28:49am

re: #662 Golem Akbar
Awww. I was hopeful it was about....Moscow, Idaho. :)

667 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:29:01am

Price we paid for JFK's inexperience (in the Boston Globe of all places)

IN HIS July 18 op-ed "Going jaw to jaw with our enemies," President Kennedy's special counsel, Ted Sorensen, writes that in our recent New York Times op-ed recounting the June 1961 summit between Kennedy and Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev we "defamed a dead president."

Setting emotional arguments aside, we believe Sorensen is wrong when he states that in characterizing Kennedy's performance as weak, we perpetuated a "misperception" and stretched it to "absurd length." Kennedy's own assessment of his performance attests to the inaccuracy of Sorensen's claims.

Speaking to New York Times correspondent James Reston at the end of the summit, Kennedy said the following of his adversary: "He just beat the hell out of me. I've got a terrible problem if he thinks I'm inexperienced and have no guts."

The consequences of the Vienna summit were not limited to emboldening Khrushchev; the effects on Kennedy's strategic thinking may also have been great. On the final day of the summit, Kennedy said to Reston: "We have to see what we can do that will restore a feeling in Moscow that we will defend our national interest. I'll have to increase the defense budget. And we have to confront them. The only place we can do that is in Vietnam. We have to send more people there."

In recounting Kennedy's failure at Vienna, we never argued that the United States should not negotiate with its adversaries. We stated only that Kennedy's experience demonstrates that there are serious risks to negotiation.

NATHAN THRALL
JESSE JAMES WILKINS
New York

668 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:29:03am

re: #653 songbird

Wow. Glad you and immediate family are ok, and I hope it will not take too much to restore order to damage done.

We get the dregs of Dolly starting tomorrow night and through the weekend

Should bring you some good rain if you're in the path...where are you at?

669 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:29:28am

re: #655 Ford_Prefect

I recently read a book of Reagan's writings going back to his days on the radio and some of his other writings. The more I read the more I am convinced that he was the greatest President this country has ever known. A man of true vision and leadership. he never wavered in his beliefs. He wasn't a politician, he was a leader.

His writings in late '50s included a strategy for defeating the Soviet without a war. When he became President he implemented that policy.

I put him in the top 5 for sure, probably the top 3. Certainly the finest of the 20th Century. Washington for the 18th, Lincoln for the 18th, and Reagan for the 20th.

670 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:30:21am

re: #650 jorline

No, but I here is going to do a photo-op on the SPI seawall with immigrates that wash ashore...LOL

HA!

I like the typo...or is that purposeful?

"Immigrates"

These are the people that are HAPPY to be here, is what it sounds like to me.

Although I guess if you wash ashore, you're probably happy to be ANYWHERE.

671 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:30:46am

re: #652 jcm

They would have used the data from the testing for the DDG-1000 Zumwalt class.

With the low freeboard and the ram bow, the thing looks like an old fashioned ironclad.

672 Lively  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:31:07am

re: #664 ruddoj

LA has just placed a 'one year ban' on all new fast food establishments in the county......

I guess free enterprise and capitalism have both died today in Los Angeles......

[Link: www.latimes.com...]


We all know that the government knows best.

/

673 ruddoj  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:31:23am

in the article on the south LA fast food ban:

the law would prevent fast-food chains from opening new restaurants in a 32-square-mile area, including West Adams, Baldwin Village and Leimert Park. The moratorium would be in effect for one year, with the possibility of two six-month extensions.

I wonder if they plan on opening up more grocery markets to offset this decision...?

674 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:31:32am

re: #669 jcm
What asshat was talking about RWRs "malignant legacy". What a buncha assholes.

675 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:32:02am

re: #659 jcm

I can see them turning on him if he continues to snub them. Their egos are bigger than anything - even their desire for Obama to win.

676 Lively  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:32:04am

re: #659 jcm

Their making fun of the Obamessiah....

Barack Obama makes a short visit to the manger in Bethlehem where he was born.


LOL!

/you are funny

677 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:32:06am

I once applied for a job at the University of Idaho in Moscow. The informal advert said that they had the "elk attack problem relatively under control."

678 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:32:18am

Silva is one of the best fiction writers about the middle east, terrorism, Israel...and more. This book is concerning

He was on Morning Joe today. He's already determined Barack will be President.

679 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:32:45am

re: #677 Lucius Septimius
Hehehe! That sounds about right.

680 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:33:06am

re: #675 loppyd

I can see them turning on him if he continues to snub them. Their egos are bigger than anything - even their desire for Obama to win.

JFK advocated too many policies that current dems are ashamed of, such as opposing the Soviets. They're still cheesed that we didn't join up with the Reds.

681 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:33:20am

re: #671 Lucius Septimius

With the low freeboard and the ram bow, the thing looks like an old fashioned ironclad.

Low to water, lower radar cross section. They want stealth I like the refitted SSGN Ohio. 154 cruise missiles.

682 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:33:47am

re: #676 Lively

LOL!

/you are funny

Watch the clip, it's even better.

683 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:34:15am

re: #649 opnion Yeah, some people think they're infallible - and they aren't named Obama! - and get pissed off when reminded that they are human beings.
I'm hoping that's NOT what's happening here - I have great faith in this Oral Surgeon, btw, he's pulled 2 or 3 teeth on me since I've been down here and he really is a professional. The dentist and the edno - not so sure.

684 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:34:27am

re: #664 ruddoj

LA has just placed a 'one year ban' on all new fast food establishments in the county......

I guess free enterprise and capitalism have both died today in Los Angeles......

[Link: www.latimes.com...]


As a native of Los Angeles I take umbrage at any negative news about my golden city. And if you ask me, I will assure you that the idiots running this city are 100% successful in provoking my umbrage. [or sumpin' like that...]

685 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:34:55am

re: #674 pingjockey

What asshat was talking about RWRs "malignant legacy". What a buncha assholes.


The thing about Regan is that he did not unecessarily complicate the uncomplicated. He knew right from wrong & good from evil & acted accordingly.
His novel idea for the Cold War was,"We win, they lose."
Voila! He did it.

686 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:34:55am

re: #674 pingjockey

What asshat was talking about RWRs "malignant legacy". What a buncha assholes.

If, like most lefties, you believe contrary to all fact, logic, and sense that the Soviet Union was morally superior to the United States, then, yes, Reagan's legacy was malignant.

Remember, there are people for whom the Russian invasion in "Red Dawn" would have been an occasion for celebration. And many of those people are currently in Congress or running Obamamama's campaign.

687 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:35:15am

re: #651 loppyd I'm doing ok, thanks.
Hey - tell the truth - if y'all are working from home, are you still in your jammies?! LOL!

688 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:35:21am

re: #568 realwest

Hey my friend, don't know if you're still around or have insisted on actually working (!) but please check your non-work e-mail addy's.

Did so and responded, my friend.

Any improvment on the dental scene?

By the way, congrats to the Yankees for going 7-3 in their last 10 games, and especially to Mussina for getting his act together.

Condolences to Cubs fans for Kerry Wood going back to the DL. Says he has a blister. Riiiight.

Oh and get this:

Report: Swimmer Hardy tests positive for banned substance
LOS ANGELES -- Swimmer Jessica Hardy's trip to the Beijing Olympics could be in jeopardy after she tested positive for a banned substance.

Hardy's "A" sample from the recent U.S. Olympic trials tested positive, according to a person familiar with the test results who told The Associated Press on Wednesday night. The person, who requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly, said the banned substance was a stimulant but did not provide any other details.

Better sports performance through chemicals....

In my day we just used pain killers.

689 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:35:23am

re: #655 Ford_Prefect

A man of true vision and leadership. he never wavered in his beliefs. He wasn't a politician, he was a leader.


I'm still reading Peggy Noonan's book on Reagan. The thing I found astonishing is the number of goals that he set prior to election. Then you look at the ones he achieved. Every single one.
There's a type of leadership where the 'big guy' sits around and lets everyone else set the agenda and plays referee. Pretty common stuff.
But Reagan set the agenda, kept the underlings at the task, and achieved the results he wanted. Even in the face of a near constant barrage of criticism. Truly amazing. If not one of a kind, one of a very few in this country.
Now we have 49% of this country who wish to put a rank amateur in office. 143 days in the Senate. No proven leadership skills in evidence. Some vague, ever changing agenda.

690 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:35:35am

re: #675 loppyd

I can see them turning on him if he continues to snub them. Their egos are bigger than anything - even their desire for Obama to win.

There's been some sniping going on over this trip, the lack of press, even his Berlin trip. The cracks are widening. The convention will put some spackle back on, but by Nov. he's going look pretty pathetic IMHO.

691 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:35:57am

re: #678 arizona9

Silva is one of the best fiction writers about the middle east, terrorism, Israel...and more. This book is concerning

He was on Morning Joe today. He's already determined Barack will be President.

He's a great writer, not necessarily a great seer.

692 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:36:01am

re: #668 jorline

Should bring you some good rain if you're in the path...where are you at?

I'm in Las Cruces, NM. About 40 miles north of El Paso and the Mexican border.

693 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:36:13am

re: #665 Who Watches the Watchmen?

Wouldn't some people say the same thing about your church?


Effen spot on.

694 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:37:21am

re: #684 Golem Akbar

As a native of Los Angeles I take umbrage at any negative news about my golden city. And if you ask me, I will assure you that the idiots running this city are 100% successful in provoking my umbrage. [or sumpin' like that...]

"It's important to offer incentives to bring restaurants into an area, especially an area that has suffered prejudices and stereotypes," Perry said.

Hoo boy.

Look at all the lawsuits in that article.

And all the white guilt/nanny state shiite.

695 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:38:18am
696 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:38:21am

re: #670 OldLineTexan

HA!

I like the typo...or is that purposeful?

"Immigrates"

These are the people that are HAPPY to be here, is what it sounds like to me.

Although I guess if you wash ashore, you're probably happy to be ANYWHERE.

Feeling PC this morning Oldline...actually it should have been immigrants...they're all happy no matter how they get here.

Funny thing was they busted three major drug rings trying to bring a shit-load across the border during the storm...the old Marx's Brothers play...hey diddle-diddle...we're going up the middle...Horse Feathers.

697 Lively  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:39:30am

What's this about Bob Novak hitting a pedestrian and leaving the scene? It looks like an attorney on a bike chased him half a block told him he just someone.

Liberals telling us to have compassion, yet not one ounce in their heart for the commoner.

Linky

698 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:39:31am

re: #695 Ben Hur

Putting Money Where Mouths Are: Media Donations Favor Dems 100-1

To change the world.....


Look at the chart.

0 dollars for Republicans from FoxNews.

699 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:39:33am

re: #685 opnion

re: #686 Lucius Septimius

True and true. Take a look at this list. These are my CinCs while I was in the navy and think about the changes in that 20 years
Jimmah Carter-1977
RWR-1980
GHWB-1988
Billy Jeff-1992
Went in with an asshole for prez, got out with a dickhead/liar for prez. One big winner in between, and one not so bad. Went in 1977-ret.1997. Some amazing things happened in that short span.

700 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:40:16am

re: #696 jorline

I'm glad they got some of the drug trade off-stride.

Even the local MSM makes it sound like the border is getting wilder by the day.

701 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:40:49am

Interesting experiment....

Google (please don't *whack* me bro).

Results 1 - 10 of about 156,000,000 for obama.
Results 1 - 10 of about 75,000,000 for mccain.

702 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:40:56am

Gotta fold laundry and run to a meeting. Later all. Have a great day.

703 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:41:31am

re: #692 songbird

I'm in Las Cruces, NM. About 40 miles north of El Paso and the Mexican border.

Should get some then...I love Las Cruces...My Three Sisters restaurant and my favorite steakhouse Great American between El Paso and Las Cruces.

704 mrsoc  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:41:44am

re: #532 sparrowlake

Now there's an insulting and moronic rhetorical question if I ever heard one.

I'm sorry what does that mean? I was asking about a crashing program. Why would you be so upset over that?

705 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:41:54am

re: #694 OldLineTexan

Hoo boy.

Look at all the lawsuits in that article.

And all the white guilt/nanny state shiite.


You gotta live here to appreciate that kind of bs. It never ends. From the Mayor to the LA Times, to all the local TV stations. Must be in the water. [I think I've developed an immunity...]

706 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:43:13am

re: #700 OldLineTexan

I'm glad they got some of the drug trade off-stride.

Even the local MSM makes it sound like the border is getting wilder by the day.

The borders remain very porous...pick your spot!

707 steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:43:13am

[Link: shock.military.com...]

Excellent video of old school special forces

708 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:44:49am

re: #688 3 wood Got 'em and responded - thanks!
How could anyone be so stupid as to do what she did? I mean, doing any performance enhancing banned substances but also doing them SOCLOSE to the olympics?!

709 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:44:51am

re: #677 Lucius Septimius

I once applied for a job at the University of Idaho in Moscow. The informal advert said that they had the "elk attack problem relatively under control."

ROFLMAO! That is soooo funny! Did you get the job?

By the way, I know a university in Canada where vicious beavers are a real problem...

710 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:45:24am

re: #703 jorline

Should get some then...I love Las Cruces...My Three Sisters restaurant and my favorite steakhouse Great American between El Paso and Las Cruces.

Come and visit sometime. We have room for the family.

711 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:45:32am

re: #707 steve

[Link: shock.military.com...]

Excellent video of old school special forces

Favorites, I'll watch later.
You want some old school. LRRP and Tunnel Rats.

712 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:45:38am

Morning all.

(PS) Gas tanks almost if not never "explode" They are just not built that way.

713 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:46:04am

re: #683 realwest

Yeah, some people think they're infallible - and they aren't named Obama! - and get pissed off when reminded that they are human beings.
I'm hoping that's NOT what's happening here - I have great faith in this Oral Surgeon, btw, he's pulled 2 or 3 teeth on me since I've been down here and he really is a professional. The dentist and the edno - not so sure.

Man, they have got to get it right. You can not keep walking around with a tooth ache.
Now if you had Dr. Obama DDS, things would truly be fouled up , but at least you would have hope for change & lots of Novocaine.

714 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:46:35am

re: #690 jcm You could be right, but I think his speech at Mile High Stadium will be his lowest point so far - I mean this guy REALLY THINKS he's the best thing that ever came down the beltway - man, I'm telling you, no lack of self esteem in this lad!

715 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:47:33am

re: #707 steve

[Link: shock.military.com...]

Excellent video of old school special forces

My dad was among them probably. And later in the late 60s early 70s he trained green berets at Fort Bragg.

716 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:47:35am

re: #690 jcm

There's been some sniping going on over this trip, the lack of press, even his Berlin trip. The cracks are widening. The convention will put some spackle back on, but by Nov. he's going look pretty pathetic IMHO.

And remember John Kerry had a 15 point lead in the summer of '04.

717 steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:47:53am

re: #711 jcm

Thanks, I will look them uup the first chance I get.

718 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:49:14am

re: #695 Ben Hur Hey Ben - holy shiite! Fox news gave bushels to Dems and NONE to Republicans and Obama can't find a spot for them on his plane?
WTH is wrong with Fox (none of the other's surprised me, though ABC was a tad more even-handed than anyone else in the MSM).

719 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:49:19am

re: #712 Dustoff-507

Morning all.

(PS) Gas tanks almost if not never "explode" They are just not built that way.

Heh, closet I've seem is a pool under a car going WHOOOMP! And no folks a puddle of gas igniting is not an explosion. Gotta' watch for mid '70's to late '80's bumpers, those suckers will launch down the road and knee cap ya'.

720 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:49:28am

What will the obambis handlers do if a shit load of Neonazis show up and start protesting?

721 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:49:48am

re: #714 realwest

You could be right, but I think his speech at Mile High Stadium will be his lowest point so far - I mean this guy REALLY THINKS he's the best thing that ever came down the beltway - man, I'm telling you, no lack of self esteem in this lad!

As they would say in Texas.
All hat, no cattle.

722 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:49:59am
723 steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:50:11am

re: #715 songbird

Let your dad know that I appreciate his work. I love the US Military. Never did make it due to my health. Air Force discharged me because of it.

724 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:50:27am

re: #714 realwest

You could be right, but I think his speech at Mile High Stadium will be his lowest point so far - I mean this guy REALLY THINKS he's the best thing that ever came down the beltway - man, I'm telling you, no lack of self esteem in this lad!

I'm pulling for a raging rain storm.

725 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:50:44am

re: #722 buzzsawmonkey
NPR never met a leftist thug/dictator it didn't like.

726 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:51:19am

re: #725 pingjockey

NPR never met a leftist thug/dictator it didn't like.

NPR never met a leftist thug/dictator it didn't like blow.

Fixed.

727 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:51:58am

re: #724 opnion
The beast is even now concocting a spell to bring a giant thunderstorm over the stadium at the height of the obamagasm.

728 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:52:12am

re: #722 buzzsawmonkey,

Why pay for what he already gets for free? What a moron.

729 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:52:22am

re: #726 jcm
Why thank you for that repair.

730 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:52:45am

re: #723 steve

Let your dad know that I appreciate his work. I love the US Military. Never did make it due to my health. Air Force discharged me because of it.

I know he would appreciate your thoughts. He passed away in 1995 and is buried at Fort Bliss.

My husband was also special forces - Ranger - but he was too young for Viet Nam. He saw action in Grenada and in the Gulf War as a Merchant Marine office.

731 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:53:46am

re: #719 jcm

HAHAHAHA, yep.... dang Pintos!

732 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:53:57am

re: #716 loppyd Hey, on election day, Kerry still had a lead in the polls - much closer (although CBS/somebody had Kerry in a blowout) - I just don't believe polls unless I know how they got their sample and exactly what questions were asked and how they were asked.

733 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:54:08am

This really says it all...

Former German President Richard von Weizsaecker said the Obama event could help pave the way for a new trans-Atlantic relationship.

“Kennedy said the famous sentence, ‘Ich bin ein Berliner,”‘ von Weizsaecker told the Bild newspaper. “Obama could send the Berlin signal: America is counting on Europe for its future.”

734 mglazer  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:54:19am

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Obama visits Jewish shrine
(01:09) Rough Cut
Email Video | Share Video | Embed Video:
Jul 24 - US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama made a pre-dawn visit to Jerusalem's Western Wall on Thursday (July 24).

Obama placed a prayer he had written in the wall and bowed his head while a rabbi read a psalm calling for peace in the holy city.

The visit was not without controversy as at least one worshipper chanted "Obama, Jerusalem is not for sale" and "Jerusalem is our land".

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

735 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:54:20am

FNC doing a report on Canadas' oh so wonderful socialized medicine. Woman has a cyst on her brain. Been waiting 5 weeks for an MRI!

736 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:54:43am

re: #699 pingjockey

Hey Ping. Met my SIL's new fiance last night for the first time. He's an E-5 out of Great Lakes Naval. Nice guy and I love that my sort-of-hippie SIL ended up with a Navy man! We watched "Carrier" on PBS with him last night and I watched the wheels turning in her brain as she realized that, although he is a Musician 2nd Class (that sound right?), he might very well be sent somewhere soon himself.

737 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:54:44am

re: #689 EC Marm

And he managed to do all that with a democratically controlled congress.

738 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:55:03am

re: #732 realwest

Hey, on election day, Kerry still had a lead in the polls - much closer (although CBS/somebody had Kerry in a blowout) - I just don't believe polls unless I know how they got their sample and exactly what questions were asked and how they were asked.

I don't pay attention to any pre convention polls.

739 maddogg  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:55:08am

3M duct tape, making the world a prettier place to live.

740 steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:55:23am

Give your husband and hug from mere: #730 songbird

Give your husband and hug from me and tell him I said 'Thank You.'

741 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:55:33am

re: #735 pingjockey

FNC doing a report on Canadas' oh so wonderful socialized medicine. Woman has a cyst on her brain. Been waiting 5 weeks for an MRI!

Just saw the same thing! SCARY

742 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:55:49am

re: #733 loppyd
Ummmm....NO! Eurostan will once again depend on us to bail their pansy asses out of the mad mullah mess they've got themselves into.

743 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:55:59am

re: #716 loppyd

And remember John Kerry had a 15 point lead in the summer of '04.


That's so important to remember. I was convinced by all my local media that it was in the bag for Kerry, that I almost didn't vote. Of course, living in California, it didn't really matter, but I still pulled the lever (or mailed it in) for Bush. Point is: don't fall for the hype. etc.

744 steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:56:17am

Man is it way to early, I am back to bed.

745 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:56:26am

re: #735 pingjockey

Only 5 weeks? That's nothing... she could be waiting months. No joke.

746 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:56:37am

re: #739 maddogg

3M duct tape, making the world a prettier place to live.

Such an eloquent way to 'say no to crack'!

747 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:56:49am
748 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:57:06am

re: #724 opnion HEY! That's my line! An eagle soars overhead and takes a dump on Obama as he's walking to the mic and just as he gets there the Heavens open up and a major - unpredicted rain storm starts! LOL!

749 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:57:10am

Sheesh. That was quick. Some folks get a mite testy when annoyed early morning time.

Odd place names. I forgot Moscow, AR. Between Pine Bluff and Gould, kittycorner from Star City.

And Dardanelle. Home of...wait for it...

The Fighting Sand Lizards

.

750 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:57:10am

re: #740 steve

Give your husband and hug from me

Give your husband and hug from me and tell him I said 'Thank You.'

I will do that! Thanks!

751 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:57:43am

re: #736 Spenser (with an S)
He's a musician? Wow. Never met one. Saw them at various functions. Unless he gets deployed on a carrier, she shouldn't have to worry about him being sent to BFE. (Bum Fuck Egypt).

752 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:58:40am

re: #743 Golem Akbar

That's so important to remember. I was convinced by all my local media that it was in the bag for Kerry, that I almost didn't vote. Of course, living in California, it didn't really matter, but I still pulled the lever (or mailed it in) for Bush. Point is: don't fall for the hype. etc.


The media would love for people to stay home thinking it's a lost cause.

753 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 7:58:42am

re: #745 Kenneth
Well if you added up all the time, it could be many months. Terrible.

754 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:00:23am

Well all y'all it's been grand as usual but I gotta scoot - chores to do and all that!
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

755 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:00:26am

re: #749 razorbacker

Sheesh. That was quick. Some folks get a mite testy when annoyed early morning time.

Odd place names. I forgot Moscow, AR. Between Pine Bluff and Gould, kittycorner from Star City.

And Dardanelle. Home of...wait for it...

.

I always liked Fishkill, NY.

756 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:00:28am

Obama Puff piece here complete with Poll to tell the world how great he is. Please vote.

757 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:00:43am

re: #731 Dustoff-507

HAHAHAHA, yep.... dang Pintos!

I was with Thruston Co. FD 5 back in the late '70s all volunteer, we had a task force response to a truck load of TNT on fire on the freeway. First crews arrive and stop 1000 yds away and check things out. The driver is about 50 yds from his burning truck sitting on the guard rail somking a cigarette, he sees the crew and waves them in. The crew is having no part of the that shit. They get on the PA and have the drive to come to the them.

Driver is pissed the crew is too scared to put the fire out. They tell him it's the way a truck load of TNT is handled. He responds, TNT as in Tacoma News Tribune!

758 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:00:52am

JCM...

What happened to Summer? Dang it was 46 at my place this morning

759 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:00:57am

Gaaah! Burka/bag fashion show in the land of the mad mullahs. I hear NOW protesting the islamic treatment of women......crickets.

760 pingjockey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:01:19am

BBIAB

761 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:01:33am

Just heard "Ich bin ein Beginner" on a MSM report!
ROFL!

762 Lively  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:01:48am

re: #735 pingjockey

FNC doing a report on Canadas' oh so wonderful socialized medicine. Woman has a cyst on her brain. Been waiting 5 weeks for an MRI!

Yesterday, I read in Britain they may start paying surgeons bonuses for positive outcomes on surgeries...meaning if you're old or close to death....no surgery for you.

/and the Dems want to bring that kind of health care here?

763 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:01:53am

re: #747 buzzsawmonkey,

True, but NPR is so far Left that the better question is why does American tax-payer money go to an organization that runs propaganda for Third World dictators with ties for terrorist groups. Cut NPR off from the Government tit, and let them survive on the cash that Chavez (and Hollywood elites) wants to pump into them.

At least we wouldn't be paying for the propaganda then.

764 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:02:05am

re: #758 Dustoff-507

JCM...

What happened to Summer? Dang it was 46 at my place this morning

We had a nice summer this year....
Too bad I had to work that day.

765 Golem Akbar  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:02:14am

re: #752 loppyd

The media would love for people to stay home thinking it's a lost cause.


So true! Then they can brag how right they were, and we really need to listen to them, or read their bs. I love it that newspapers have lost subscribers, that more people have stopped believing their crap.

766 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:02:33am

re: #710 songbird

Come and visit sometime. We have room for the family.

Thank you for the invitation songbird. I worked 13 years for a restaurant company that was based in El Paso...had to make trips there once a month...I truly miss the green chilies...lol

767 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:02:42am

re: #715 songbird

My dad was among them probably. And later in the late 60s early 70s he trained green berets at Fort Bragg.

No kidding? I bet your Dad knew my uncle; he was in the same business, same era.

768 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:02:45am

re: #761 jcm

Just heard "Ich bin ein Beginner" on a MSM report!
ROFL!

Have you seen the image yet? It's funny!

/please forgive blog pimping

769 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:02:56am

re: #757 jcm

LOL................ Now that's funny.

770 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:03:01am

Has Barack Obama's trip abroad changed your opinion of him?
Yes, for the better 42%
No 37%
Yes, for the worse 21%

Has Barack Obama's trip abroad changed your opinion of him?
Yes, for the better 42%
No 37%
Yes, for the worse 21%

771 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:03:15am

re: #695 Ben Hur

This is getting very scary. Obama is acting & talking like he's already President. The media is following him like love-struck teenagers. The Obamaniacs are worshiping him.

But suppose he doesn't actually win the election? They have no psychological capacity to accept a loss for Obama. They are absolutely unprepared for the possibility McCain might win. The Florida hanging chad crapola will be a picnic compared to the total moonbat meltdown. Expect major riots in Chicago, LA, etc. I'm serious. This will be ugly.

772 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:03:48am

re: #766 jorline

Thank you for the invitation songbird. I worked 13 years for a restaurant company that was based in El Paso...had to make trips there once a month...I truly miss the green chilies...lol

Oh the Chiles are great. I'm growing some in my backyard and there is nothing like fresh chiles when you are cooking. Prepared my famous green chile stew the other day with them! Magnifico!

773 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:04:13am

re: #770 Peacekeeper

Has Barack Obama's trip abroad changed your opinion of him?
Yes, for the better 42%
No 37%
Yes, for the worse 21%

Has Barack Obama's trip abroad changed your opinion of him?
Yes, for the better 42%
No 37%
Yes, for the worse 21%

I'm curious how many of the 37% No were good to start, and how many were bad to start.

774 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:04:50am

re: #772 songbird

Oh the Chiles are great. I'm growing some in my backyard and there is nothing like fresh chiles when you are cooking. Prepared my famous green chile stew the other day with them! Magnifico!

My address is...................please pack well...LOL

775 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:04:51am
776 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:05:09am

re: #767 OldLineTexan

No kidding? I bet your Dad knew my uncle; he was in the same business, same era.

My dad was Raymond Mills and he was in Korea in the early 60s and in Viet Nam during the Tet Offensive (I'm lucky he came home alive!)

777 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:05:13am

re: #751 pingjockey

He's a musician? Wow. Never met one. Saw them at various functions. Unless he gets deployed on a carrier, she shouldn't have to worry about him being sent to BFE. (Bum Fuck Egypt).

Yeah, how does that work? He's cross-trained, right? This is his speciality but he must have some other experiences and training? Not that there's anything wrong with that, "He also serves who plays the keyboard".

778 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:05:37am

bbl

779 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:05:41am

re: #765 Golem Akbar

So true! Then they can brag how right they were, and we really need to listen to them, or read their bs. I love it that newspapers have lost subscribers, that more people have stopped believing their crap.

Conversely, if it looks really close they may throw Obama overboard.....watch for stories about his inexperience to start that drumbeat should this happen.

780 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:05:52am

re: #764 jcm


I just knew you would say that....
The news was saying we would get to 80 today. Glad I'm not a betting man.

781 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:06:11am

re: #774 jorline

My address is...................please pack well...LOL

Seriously, if you want some chiles, let me know. I'll let you know costs and shipping charges.

782 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:06:44am

re: #756 Peacekeeper

Obama Puff piece here complete with Poll to tell the world how great he is. Please vote.

I'm not sure I saw that correctly, but the poll on whether or not Obama's European trip changed my opinion of him looked like the original choices were "Yes", "No", "Neither" and when the results came back they were categorized by "Yes, for the better", "No", "Yes, for the worse".......how'd they figure out 'better' or 'worse' from those questions? (assuming I'm not just nuts).

783 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:06:51am

re: #771 Kenneth

BDS and PEST, writ large...

784 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:07:40am

re: #773 rlevitin

We'll never know. It's a puff piece and the unscientific poll is just the cherry on the sundae.

785 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:08:04am

re: #771 Kenneth

I find solice in the knowledge that the MSM knows absolutely zero about Americans.

They only discovered NASCAR with the huge outpouring of grief following Ernhart's death. They were caught completely off guard.

The were completely taken aback by the nation's outpouring of grief following the death of Reagan and were left scrambling.

They assumed that people would have similar grief about Russert, and force fed it until they turned a tragedy into an annoyance.

They are getting this wrong and when Baruch loses, they'll cover their ass with "America isn't ready...." and "Racism isn't dead...." Yada yada yada.

786 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:08:06am

re: #777 Spenser (with an S)

Yeah, how does that work? He's cross-trained, right? This is his speciality but he must have some other experiences and training? Not that there's anything wrong with that, "He also serves who plays the keyboard".

Amen to that!

/says the music teacher!

787 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:08:29am

re: #782 eschew_obfuscation

I'm not sure I saw that correctly, but the poll on whether or not Obama's European trip changed my opinion of him looked like the original choices were "Yes", "No", "Neither" and when the results came back they were categorized by "Yes, for the better", "No", "Yes, for the worse".......how'd they figure out 'better' or 'worse' from those questions? (assuming I'm not just nuts).

Hmm. Are you suggesting that obfuscation is afoot?

788 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:08:44am

re: #770 Peacekeeper

Has Barack Obama's trip abroad changed your opinion of him?
Yes, for the better 42%
No 37%
Yes, for the worse 21%

Has Barack Obama's trip abroad changed your opinion of him?
Yes, for the better 42%
No 37%
Yes, for the worse 21%

21% is a big number for a change in the negative direction.

Most Americans don't appreciate Obama giving foreign policy speeches in Europe.

I can't wait for the debates.

789 maddogg  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:08:47am

re: #770 Peacekeeper

I looked for it, but there is no "Do you think Obama sucks?" category.

790 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:08:57am

Obamafuscation?

791 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:08:57am

re: #783 christheprofessor

Ummm... what's PEST?

792 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:09:07am

I have request. I actually mentioned it way upthread but never got a response. Is there a link to a listing of commonly used abbreviations on blogs/emails/texts? I am talking about stuff like ROFL and such.

793 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:09:23am

re: #784 Peacekeeper


You notice that Obama doesn't have much of a lead? Hmmm

794 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:09:30am

re: #776 songbird

My dad was Raymond Mills and he was in Korea in the early 60s and in Viet Nam during the Tet Offensive (I'm lucky he came home alive!)

My uncle is still with us and going strong (waves at East Coast of Florida), so I would probably get whacked for putting his name here. West Point '61, four tours in Viet Nam (adviser first tour), Green Beret, Ranger, etc. In between tours he taught at several schools.

795 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:09:40am

re: #789 maddogg

People like you are just what is called for here. Lift the mad dog leg of defiance and rain on his parade!

796 JustMyView  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:09:56am

re: #716 loppyd

And remember John Kerry had a 15 point lead in the summer of '04.

I don't think that's accurate. I found one data set that indicates they were close from July through the end of October, w/ only a couple of significant gaps, both of which favored Bush.

797 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:10:03am

re: #793 Dustoff-507

ONLY a racist would think like that.

798 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:10:27am

re: #788 loppyd

I can't wait for the debates.

That is going to be GOLDEN.

So much opportunity.

799 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:10:41am

re: #771 Kenneth

That very tactic will be used to get people to vote for Obama....mark my words.

800 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:10:45am

re: #791 Kenneth

Post Election Selection Trauma (from after Kerry lost, as I recall, though it sounds like after Gore bit it)...

801 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:10:52am

re: #780 Dustoff-507

I just knew you would say that....
The news was saying we would get to 80 today. Glad I'm not a betting man.

re: #780 Dustoff-507

I just knew you would say that....
The news was saying we would get to 80 today. Glad I'm not a betting man.

I never bet on what the weather man, or girl says around here. I had a bunch of classes with Shannon at the UW.

802 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:11:16am

re: #788 loppyd

21% is a big number for a change in the negative direction.

Most Americans don't appreciate Obama giving foreign policy speeches in Europe.

I can't wait for the debates.

Apparently Obama figures different.

803 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:11:26am
804 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:11:30am

re: #794 OldLineTexan

My uncle is still with us and going strong (waves at East Coast of Florida), so I would probably get whacked for putting his name here. West Point '61, four tours in Viet Nam (adviser first tour), Green Beret, Ranger, etc. In between tours he taught at several schools.

Wow! Please inform him of my great respect and appreciation for his service!

805 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:12:10am

re: #781 songbird

Seriously, if you want some chiles, let me know. I'll let you know costs and shipping charges.

LOL...I was talking about the stew...just kidding.

I have a lot of friends in El Paso that still ship me chilies, but thanks for the offer.

806 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:12:36am

re: #796 JustMyView

I don't think that's accurate. I found one data set that indicates they were close from July through the end of October, w/ only a couple of significant gaps, both of which favored Bush.

Many polls had him way up.

I volunteered in Exeter, NH - I saw the numbers.

The campaign's internal numbers never had Kerry up by as much as the Media's.

807 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:12:47am

Has Barack Obama's trip abroad changed your opinion of him?
Yes, for the better 43%
No 36%
Yes, for the worse 21%
Who would do a better job as president on foreign policy?
Barack Obama 52%
John McCain 42%
Neither 6%

808 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:12:52am

Obama gets the finest endorsements.

PARCHMAN - Dale Leo Bishop was executed Wednesday for his role in the claw hammer murder of a friend, but not before apologizing to the victim's family and urging opponents of the death penalty to vote for Barack Obama.
809 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:13:10am

re: #805 jorline

LOL...I was talking about the stew...just kidding.

I have a lot of friends in El Paso that still ship me chilies, but thanks for the offer.

/thinks of the logistics of packing magnificent green chile stew in dry ice.

810 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:13:29am

Now that more people are online (I am not actually checking the statistics, but meh)...

Anyone here hear of/seen the new HBO Mini-Series "Generation Kill"?

811 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:13:33am

re: #787 Peacekeeper

Hmm. Are you suggesting that obfuscation is afoot?

Well, I won't jump to conclusions (lost my mat somewhere). Perhaps someone who hasn't voted yet can take a look and confirm/destroy my hypotheses ;-)

812 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:13:34am

re: #755 Ford_Prefect

I always liked Fishkill, NY.

'Course everybody has heard of, if not visited Bald Knob and Toad Suck.

Or Yellville and Smackover and Marked Tree. Arkansas has a county named for the man who introduced the poinsettia flower to America (Poinsett). There's also one named for a tree (Lonoke, short for Lone Oak). Bauxite, Marble, Limedale, Zinc, Coal Hill, Onyx, and Lead Hill. Calamine, in Sharp County, was a zinc mining town before and after the Civil War. Surface deposits of zinc oxide and ferric oxide (commonly called calamine) brought about this funny city name.

Oil Trough in Independence County. In 1811, a band of hunters camped along the White River and staged bear hunts into the dense canebrakes that covered hundreds of acres in the area. Over 100 bears were killed and soon the hunters ran out of a place to store the oil, which was a valued commodity on the world market at that time. Huge trees were cut and fashioned into troughs to hold the oil until shipment could be arranged downstream. The abandoned troughs marked the campsite for years afterwards and became a landmark for persons traveling the river.

Local tradition says that a Polk County school teacher sent out notes to patrons requesting possible names for their new post office. Fearing penciled entries might be difficult to read, she requested that they please "write in ink." Many did...and Ink was the winner. A few men were gathered in an Izard County country store in 1888, arguing over a name for their proposed post office. Finally they agreed to name it for the next person to enter the business. "Gid" Bruce provided the funny city name for Gid, Arkansas.

I'll check in later. I'm getting a tingle in mah laig, so it's either a vote for Obama or a short walk.

813 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:13:36am

re: #785 Ben Hur

That will be part of the problem. The media has so bought into Obama's coronation, they will be stunned if he looses. The media will feed the charges of racism, they will "go live to the rioting", which will only serve to provoke more copy-cat riots. Remember how they lied about hurricane Katrina? Expect a media driven coup de tête... or "coup de tele", if I may coin a phrase.

814 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:13:38am

re: #808 jcm

Absentee ballot?

815 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:13:47am

re: #796 JustMyView

And remember Kerry was SOOOOOO smart. LOL

816 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:13:54am

BREAKING

IRAQ athletes not competing in Olympics...

817 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:14:42am

re: #813 Kenneth

Think of all the documentaries and op ed's asking "What went wrong"

818 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:14:44am
819 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:15:06am

re: #801 jcm


Now, nice. BUT does she have a brain?

820 Spenser (with an S)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:15:19am

re: #792 Ford_Prefect

Good question. My kids aren't on-line much yet, but I know POS= Parent over shoulder. I'll look for a site I saw a few months ago.

821 maddogg  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:15:33am

The Democratic Party would be the choice of most all convicts, so they want them to get to vote. Very telling in more ways than one.

822 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:15:54am

re: #792 Ford_Prefect

LOL = Laugh out Loud
LMAO = laugh my ass off
ROFL = roll on floor laughing
WTF = ... (need I?)
GMTA = great minds think alike
IMHO = in my honest opinion

823 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:15:58am

re: #804 songbird

Wow! Please inform him of my great respect and appreciation for his service!

Growing up, we were awed by him. We used to watch the news on V-N, thinking he would obviously be on it. ;)

He used to give me serious Indian sunburns, etc., but he also sent me coins from all over and my brother and I had matching tiger-stripe cammies and green berets with the tiger flash that he sent from Saigon. I have had Mom looking for those since my son was born in 1999, but no luck.

824 3 wood  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:16:12am

got to run

Later

825 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:16:45am

re: #791 Kenneth

PEST

826 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:16:56am

re: #819 Dustoff-507

Now, nice. BUT does she have a brain?

She does, nice person too. Didn't know her well, worked on a few team projects together.

827 sparrowlake  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:17:56am

re: #697 Lively

What's this about Bob Novak hitting a pedestrian and leaving the scene? It looks like an attorney on a bike chased him half a block told him he just someone.
Liberals telling us to have compassion, yet not one ounce in their heart for the commoner.
Linky

What a (bodily orifice) Novak is.
I'm sure he didn't see the pedestrian before he struck him/her - he was probably too busy looking in his lap for his loose dentures.
And he probably would've got away with the hit and run if the ambulance-chaser hadn't caught him after giving the downed pedestrian his card.//

828 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:18:04am

re: #825 christheprofessor

Let's face it, Kerry and his mouth. Killed his chances.

829 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:18:07am

re: #815 Dustoff-507

And remember Kerry was SOOOOOO smart. LOL

Yeah, how did "reporting for duty" business work out for you, Lurch?

830 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:18:21am

re: #822 Kenneth

LOL = Laugh out Loud
LMAO = laugh my ass off
ROFL = roll on floor laughing
WTF = ... (need I?)
GMTA = great minds think alike
IMHO = in my honest opinion

IIRC = If I Recall Correctly.
WTF = Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
CF = Charlie Fox

831 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:18:43am

re: #828 Dustoff-507

Let's face it, Kerry and his mouth. Killed his chances.

Theresa didn't help much....

832 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:18:44am

re: #792 Ford_Prefect

I have request. I actually mentioned it way upthread but never got a response. Is there a link to a listing of commonly used abbreviations on blogs/emails/texts? I am talking about stuff like ROFL and such.

Haven't really looked at these, but I assume they are accurate.

[Link: en.wiktionary.org...]

[Link: netforbeginners.about.com...]

[Link: www.assessmentpsychology.com...]

833 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:19:03am

Working from home today. Just watched Alcee Hastings go ballistic on the floor of the house. They are debating or discussing the HIV/AIDS funding to Africa and one of the Republicans once again brought up the Dems blocking energy exploration in America. Alcee lost it. Demanded toknow how you can get up in a debate about HIV/AIDS and dare to talk about energy.
It is a recurring theme for the Republicans today and they bring it up at every oppurtunity.
For the record Hastings in so many words said the Dems are not going to move on the energy or drilling question before the August recess and for the Republicans to just basically shut up about.
Oh yeah and for a former federal judge, even an impeached one, he sure does stammer a lot when not reading from prepared notes.

834 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:19:16am

re: #822 Kenneth

LOL = Laugh out Loud
LMAO = laugh my ass off
ROFL = roll on floor laughing
WTF = ... (need I?)
GMTA = great minds think alike
IMHO = in my honest opinion

could also be IN MY HUMBLE OPINION

835 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:19:20am

re: #822 Kenneth

LOL = Laugh out Loud
LMAO = laugh my ass off
ROFL = roll on floor laughing
WTF = ... (need I?)
GMTA = great minds think alike
IMHO = in my honest opinion

WAB = Whiny-ass-bitch (Mandy came up with it)

836 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:19:36am

OMG! Is Obama the best ever?

YES 56%
WAY BETTER 39%
HIT "NO" BY ACCIDENT 5%

837 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:19:53am

re: #826 jcm


Cool.

By the way. You should see all the money Boeing is spending inside their buildings. New palces to eat, new & fancy areas for their support people. It's something else. (-:

838 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:19:59am

re: #835 debutaunt

I've always wondered, what does GAZE mean?

839 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:20:18am
840 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:20:24am

re: #770 Peacekeeper

Has Barack Obama's trip abroad changed your opinion of him?
Yes, for the better 42%
No 37%
Yes, for the worse 21%

Has Barack Obama's trip abroad changed your opinion of him?
Yes, for the better 42%
No 37%
Yes, for the worse 21%

Who did this poll?

841 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:20:26am

re: #836 Peacekeeper

OMG! Is Obama the best ever?

YES 56%
WAY BETTER 39%
HIT "NO" BY ACCIDENT 5%

It would be funnier with a kitteh picture. ;)

842 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:21:07am

re: #840 arizona9

Link

843 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:21:32am

re: #830 jcm

WTF = Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Sorry but the FAA is saying we can't us "whiskey" anymore.

(William)..... gezzz )-:

844 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:21:33am

re: #820 Spenser (with an S)

re: #822 Kenneth

Thanks. That's a start.

845 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:21:35am

re: #835 debutaunt

WAB = Whiny-ass-bitch (Mandy came up with it)

8-)

846 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:22:23am

Does any remember the post showing how many times democrats in congress and Republicans voted for and against drilling?

847 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:22:27am

re: #835 debutaunt

WAB = Whiny-ass-bitch (Mandy came up with it)

Which Mandy? I hear there are a lot of 'em running around ;)

848 JustMyView  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:22:29am

re: #806 loppyd

Many polls had him way up.

I volunteered in Exeter, NH - I saw the numbers.

The campaign's internal numbers never had Kerry up by as much as the Media's.

I'd be interested to see such a set of numbers. Here are three more surveys that tracked polling results through October, and all significant gaps favor Bush. It's hard to find four-year-old trend data, but I'm sure it must exist somewhere.

849 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:22:34am

re: #828 Dustoff-507

Let's face it, Kerry and his mouth. Killed his chances.

Kerry's speech craft was better than Obama's without a teleprompter. Obama needs copious notes and can't think off the top of his head well.

850 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:23:02am

re: #792 Ford_Prefect

Try this site.

Internet Acronyms, Abbreviations and Emoticons

851 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:23:07am

re: #828 Dustoff-507

Let's face it, Kerry and his mouth. Killed his chances.

No disagreement. "Could I git me a huntin' license here?"

852 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:23:16am

re: #828 Dustoff-507

Let's face it, Kerry and his mouth. Killed his chances.

And his palpable arrogance.

Sound familiar?

853 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:23:23am

BTW, I was working of an electrical outlet the other day, and not wanting a shock I plugged in a radio, went to the panel and started flipping breakers. The radio went silent, I went to the outlet and grabbed the offending item.

Just as the radio station came back on the air.

Today I'm going to wire a light for the wife's new bath. So, if it all goes dim for youse guys, sorry in advance.

854 JustMyView  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:23:30am

re: #848 JustMyView

I'd be interested to see such a set of numbers. Here are three more surveys that tracked polling results through October, and all significant gaps favor Bush. It's hard to find four-year-old trend data, but I'm sure it must exist somewhere.

Whoop! Here are the three surveys I mentioned.

855 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:23:49am

Think of all the documentaries and op ed's asking "What went wrong"

lol. So true! The absolute worst case scenerio is Obama wins but loses the popular vote...then we'll have to endure the empty suit bastard for four years and listen to the media screaming about how racist Americans are.....ugh.

856 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:23:53am

re: #838 Kenneth

I've always wondered, what does GAZE mean?

It's bad new for the one being GAZED at. It puts them on notice that they are being watched.

857 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:23:59am

re: #841 OldLineTexan

It would be funnier with a kitteh picture. ;)

WAR KITTENS!?

858 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:24:03am

re: #849 songbird


Your not kidding....

859 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:24:37am

re: #837 Dustoff-507

Cool.

By the way. You should see all the money Boeing is spending inside their buildings. New palces to eat, new & fancy areas for their support people. It's something else. (-:

Maybe they should of spent some on the 787?
/ ;-P

860 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:24:41am

JFK: Ich Bin Ein Berliner!
BHO: Ich bin ein Beginner!

heard it on FOX

861 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:24:50am

re: #852 loppyd


Let's hope it happens again.

862 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:24:55am

If you can you ought to flip over to CSPAN and watch the debate right now on energy.
Dem= Release the strategic reserve
Rep= Open up the areas for drilling

Jeff Sessions speaking right now

863 rawmuse  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:25:05am

re: #853 razorbacker

Your radio needs batteries.

864 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:25:11am

re: #847 rlevitin

Which Mandy? I hear there are a lot of 'em running around ;)

Yes. Spartacus has a sister named Mandy.

865 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:25:21am

Pete Sessions rather

866 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:25:34am

I'm reading a book on mind manipulation committed by cults and charismatic leaders - and guess what - the press are allowing themselves to be brainwashed.

The Manipulated Mind: Brainwashing, Conditioning & Indoctrination

867 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:25:37am

re: #832 rlevitin

Haven't really looked at these, but I assume they are accurate.

[Link: en.wiktionary.org...]

[Link: netforbeginners.about.com...]

[Link: www.assessmentpsychology.com...]

Thanks. I bookmarked the wiktionary and the assessment psychology sites. Good stuff.

868 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:25:37am
869 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:25:47am

re: #848 JustMyView

I'd be interested to see such a set of numbers. Here are three more surveys that tracked polling results through October, and all significant gaps favor Bush. It's hard to find four-year-old trend data, but I'm sure it must exist somewhere.

Have at it.

870 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:25:53am

re: #859 jcm


I can't say either way. (-: But everything is looking good. (-:

871 Pyrocles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:26:23am

NPR made sure to say this morning that the Mississippi oil spill will reflect poorly on McCain, who has called for oil drilling. I hate NPR.

re: #348 Teacake!

872 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:26:46am

The total number of votes has gone up by several thousand yet the percentages remain unchanged. Interesting.

873 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:26:50am

re: #847 rlevitin

Which Mandy? I hear there are a lot of 'em running around ;)

Many Mandys.

Say that three times fast.

874 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:26:57am

re: #862 Just_A_Grunt


The Dem's are crazy. Opening the would do us NO good.

(another feel good idea)

875 rawmuse  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:27:53am

Obama has a record for which he can be attacked. He has less than 200 days in the Senate, during which time he mostly voted "present", except in the case of murdering aborted babies, in which he voted yea, and in against going to war in Iraq, in which he voted no. Pretty thin record over all.

876 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:27:58am

re: #872 Peacekeeper


Just maybe the EU is waking up to this fool.

877 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:28:03am

re: #855 arizona9

Think of all the documentaries and op ed's asking "What went wrong"

lol. So true! The absolute worst case scenerio is Obama wins but loses the popular vote...then we'll have to endure the empty suit bastard for four years and listen to the media screaming about how racist Americans are.....ugh.

Remember Katie Couric's stunned, pale face and funeral suit the morning after the election? She kept asking every guest "what happened?" - it was delicious.

878 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:28:57am

re: #636 realwest

Crew of 10, and no weapons systems?
Shoot, that could be some billionaire's Yacht! LOL!

Need a lot more crew, well, maybe that's just engineers, not cooks and valets!

879 Dustoff-507  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:29:49am

re: #877 loppyd


Funny isn't it (Katie Couric) sure went after him the other day.

Shocked I tell ya, shocked.

880 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:29:57am

What do you get when you cross an accountant and a large jet airliner? A Boring 747...

/hattip: Tony Soprano

881 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:29:58am

re: #870 Dustoff-507

I can't say either way. (-: But everything is looking good. (-:

I hope you were standing by with a fire extinguisher during that first power up!
/

882 loppyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 8:30:39am

re: #879 Dustoff-507

Funny isn't it (Katie Couric) sure went after him the other day.

Shocked I tell ya, shocked.

She was a Hillary girl....