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Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 9:27:04 pm PST

I prefer the wicked rather than the foolish. The wicked sometimes rest.

Alexandre Dumas

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1 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:27:50 pm reply quote 0

Stormy night in NYC tonight.

2 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:28:20 pm reply quote 0

Scary lightning.

3 BlueCanuck  7/23/08 9:28:29 pm reply quote 0

Well, said. I have known too many fools.

/and have been one myself on occassion.

4 jcw46  7/23/08 9:30:21 pm reply quote 2

Waaiitt a minute. I always heard that "there's NO rest for the wicked".

5 Dar ul Harb  7/23/08 9:31:26 pm reply quote 1

re: #4 jcw46

Waaiitt a minute. I always heard that "there's NO rest for the wicked".

When aphorisms collide!

6 solomonpanting  7/23/08 9:32:16 pm reply quote 2

Obama is portrayed as the new JFK. I wonder how he'd respond to a present-day Cuban crisis.

7 Carridine  7/23/08 9:33:43 pm reply quote 0

Ah, well, with this, then, I 'Hi' and 'Bye!' and I'll be back as K.

Gotta go home and write some modules for ESL Saturday.

bbiaw
if the elasmosaurus doesn't get me outside the *ahem!* 'museum'...

8 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:33:48 pm reply quote 0

re: #2 Tarkus289
We haven't had a decent t-storm here in a while. Of course when we get t-storms, usually no rain and then forest fires. East slope of Cascades, Wa state.

9 PSGInfinity  7/23/08 9:33:53 pm reply quote 0

Cool lightning tonight on the East Coast...

10 Sharmuta  7/23/08 9:34:08 pm reply quote 16

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

~C.S. Lewis

11 daledog  7/23/08 9:34:17 pm reply quote 0

This could explain my preference for Hillary over Obama.

12 rawmuse  7/23/08 9:35:00 pm reply quote 4

I think I would rather be governed by 100 people picked at random from the phone book than by our present Senate.

13 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:35:12 pm reply quote 3

re: #10 Sharmuta
Sounds like the goddamn nanny state gov't the leftists want to foist on us.

14 paradox42  7/23/08 9:35:19 pm reply quote 0

re: #10 Sharmuta

Great quote, where's it from?

15 lifeofthemind  7/23/08 9:35:58 pm reply quote 0

It was a dark and stormy night .....
Much sound of crashing, breaking glass and an unexplained whirring noise.
Ahem, we regret to inform that this post has been canceled until good taste prevails.

16 Boondock St. Bender  7/23/08 9:36:05 pm reply quote 0

re: #9 PSGInfinity

had a front row seat.and only one power hit to interupt the show.(had to go ck. all the equipt.)

17 SpartanWoman  7/23/08 9:36:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #10 Sharmuta

I do adore CS. He had some wonderful views on relativism too

18 Carridine  7/23/08 9:36:40 pm reply quote 0

re: #14 paradox42

Great quote, where's it from?


From CS Lewis, I thimk...

19 Boondock St. Bender  7/23/08 9:37:01 pm reply quote 0

re: #12 rawmuse

That sounds like an interesting form of governence.

20 Metal Man  7/23/08 9:37:06 pm reply quote 0

“Children are innocent and love justice, while most adults are wicked and prefer mercy.”
G. K. Chesterton

21 PSGInfinity  7/23/08 9:37:11 pm reply quote 0

re: #16 Boondock St. Bender

had a front row seat.and only one power hit to interupt the show.(had to go ck. all the equipt.)

We had a power hit too. Wasn't here, looks like it was minor.

22 Cognito  7/23/08 9:38:37 pm reply quote 0

re: #10 Sharmuta

Indeed.

23 PSGInfinity  7/23/08 9:38:47 pm reply quote 1

Thanks for having me, folks! Good Night!
(Although I may hang around for a little while)

24 pat  7/23/08 9:39:45 pm reply quote 0

"Don't worry about your heart, it will last you as long as you live."
W. C. Fields

25 Racer X  7/23/08 9:40:11 pm reply quote 0

"Religion hinges upon faith, politics hinges upon who can tell the most convincing lies or maybe just shout the loudest, but science hinges upon whether its conclusions resemble what actually happens."
- Ian Stewart

27 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:41:27 pm reply quote 0

re: #26 Typicalwhitey
That is bullshit!

28 haakondahl  7/23/08 9:41:30 pm reply quote 0

Any lizards in the San Diego area? I'm actually in the States this week, and would love to meet up with anybody around. Thursday evening or possibly Friday evening is what (I think) I have available. I'll buy the beer.

29 Boondock St. Bender  7/23/08 9:41:40 pm reply quote 0

re: #25 Racer X

as long as science does not become politicized.(great quote!by the by)

30 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:41:44 pm reply quote 0

Didn't he help build the Western Wall?

31 nigella  7/23/08 9:41:45 pm reply quote 5

"Obamas' a socialist and he will destroy the United States." - Nigella

32 Typicalwhitey  7/23/08 9:42:17 pm reply quote 0

re: #27 pingjockey

Think anyone will pick up on it?

33 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:42:50 pm reply quote 0

re: #28 haakondahl
Be here early, like 6am PDT, Dorian Grey lives down there, don't know who else.

34 SpartanWoman  7/23/08 9:42:54 pm reply quote 1

re: #26 Typicalwhitey

Should he have his logo at the Western Wall?


This man is hateful!

35 K~Bob  7/23/08 9:43:40 pm reply quote 0

Right now it's 60 degrees f. here, directly above the center of the Earth.
Which happens to be near Detroit. No storms. Beautiful sleeping weather.

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

36 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:43:44 pm reply quote 0

re: #32 Typicalwhitey
Don't count on the msm. They're all swooning.

37 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:43:54 pm reply quote 0

There was some kind of incident at the Wall, I suppose it was discussed earlier, but I only read the bottom of the last thread.

38 Boondock St. Bender  7/23/08 9:44:20 pm reply quote 0

re: #33 pingjockey

dorian won't respond,unless you act interested in buying one of his cd's though.(just kidding dorian)

39 Typicalwhitey  7/23/08 9:44:32 pm reply quote 0

Drudge has: "Politics hits the Wall" as a headline....developing

40 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:44:46 pm reply quote 0

re: #38 Boondock St. Bender
Heh!

41 K~Bob  7/23/08 9:45:02 pm reply quote 2

re: #34 SpartanWoman

This man is hateful!

I'm surprised his campaign staff didn't ask if they could get a fresh coat of paint on the wall for Obama's photo op.

{ Assume, etc. }

42 Typicalwhitey  7/23/08 9:45:04 pm reply quote 3

re: #37 Tarkus289

Putting his logo there just seems incredibly tacky.

43 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:45:16 pm reply quote 0

It has been developing for over an hour, I'm curious.

44 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:45:46 pm reply quote 0

re: #37 Tarkus289
Some one was shouting "Israel isn't for sale". Haven't had the news on though.

45 Cognito  7/23/08 9:45:54 pm reply quote 0

re: #39 Typicalwhitey

Drudge has: "Politics hits the Wall" as a headline....developing

Whoa. Now that is some hardcore pandering.

46 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:46:04 pm reply quote 0

Running for President is pretty tacky too.

47 Racer X  7/23/08 9:46:06 pm reply quote 1

C'mon everybody! Get up and Dance To The Music!

48 pegcity  7/23/08 9:46:12 pm reply quote 0

re: #42 Typicalwhitey

having a logo period seems tacky.

Hes a politician not Mcdonalds or Nike.

49 Mel Lono  7/23/08 9:46:20 pm reply quote 0

re: #21 PSGInfinity

We had a power hit too. Wasn't here, looks like it was minor.

Rolling power outs on So. Cal for about 4 hours. Sorta a blink/blink.
As an aside, I was woken up this morning about 7 by two Cobra helicopters transiting the coast. The sound is unmistakable. But I'm sure they circled my block just to wake me up.

50 JeremyR  7/23/08 9:46:26 pm reply quote 0

"Always do right - this will gratify some and astonish the rest."
Mark Twain

51 cutestguy[deleted]  7/23/08 9:46:26 pm 0
52 paradox42  7/23/08 9:46:47 pm reply quote 0

re: #42 Typicalwhitey

How dare you question the great, wise, and benevolent BO. HEATHEN! REPENT NOW!

/sarc^infinity

53 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:47:05 pm reply quote 0

re: #45 Cognito
Well he had to do something to placate the liberal Jewish vote after talking to murdering savages.

54 nigella  7/23/08 9:47:06 pm reply quote 0

Tarkus 289, as long as you aren't bi-curious. A snide reference to South Park!

55 rawmuse  7/23/08 9:47:06 pm reply quote 0

re: #42 Typicalwhitey

Putting his logo there just seems incredibly tacky.

Especially when myobama.com is a virtual sanctuary for anti-Semites and holocaust deniers.

56 Cognito  7/23/08 9:47:14 pm reply quote 0

re: #42 Typicalwhitey

Putting his logo there just seems incredibly tacky.

Worse than tacky. Cynical beyond belief.

I'm trying to think of a metaphor to describe the cynicism, but 'put his logo up at the Western Wall' pretty much defines the outer limit.

57 Typicalwhitey  7/23/08 9:47:19 pm reply quote 1

re: #52 paradox42

How dare you question the great, wise, and benevolent BO. HEATHEN! REPENT NOW!

/sarc^infinity


If McCain did this can you imaging the howls of protest from the MSM?

58 quiescent  7/23/08 9:47:38 pm reply quote 0

maybe the obamesiah will make it all better


I dont think this is true, but maybe when he is elected the planets will align to point at his aura...


/see prior notes

59 SpartanWoman  7/23/08 9:47:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #48 pegcity

having a logo period seems tacky.

Hes a politician not Mcdonalds or Nike.

I disagree, he is indeed McDonalds or Nike or Taco Bell

60 pegcity  7/23/08 9:47:51 pm reply quote 1

re: #56 Cognito

your not even supposed to take pictures their let alone plaster your godamn stupid LOGO

61 Boondock St. Bender  7/23/08 9:47:51 pm reply quote 0

re: #48 pegcity

lets hope this isn't the start of some disturbing new trend.

62 Typicalwhitey  7/23/08 9:48:10 pm reply quote 0

His arrogance is breathtaking!
The koskiddies are loving all his pics at the wall.
Puke.

63 pegcity  7/23/08 9:48:52 pm reply quote 0

re: #59 SpartanWoman

Hes a brand not a human.

He's got as much depth as a Starbucks phamplet on rainforests

64 Cognito  7/23/08 9:49:12 pm reply quote 0

re: #60 pegcity

your not even supposed to take pictures their let alone plaster your godamn stupid LOGO

I thought the photo ban was only on the Sabbath?

The logo is still ridiculous, regardless.

65 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:49:12 pm reply quote 1

If he does meet with ahmadinejad, will their halos interact and blind us all?

66 SpartanWoman  7/23/08 9:50:02 pm reply quote 3

re: #65 Tarkus289

If he does meet with ahmadinejad, will their halos interact and blind us all?

Hopefully they will interact and self-destruct

67 nigella  7/23/08 9:50:05 pm reply quote 0

I'm beginning to think Obama is believing his own press.There is a possibility he may have gone overboard in his belief that he is the chosen one. Hopefully I'M right.

68 pegcity  7/23/08 9:50:20 pm reply quote 0

re: #64 Cognito

not sure, all i know is i got yelled at by a bunch of Hassids for taking pictures

69 Boondock St. Bender  7/23/08 9:50:21 pm reply quote 0

waiting for the obama/halo photoshop.with the sun beaming down...and obama standing there as if he's the only reason it's there.

70 paradox42  7/23/08 9:50:23 pm reply quote 0

re: #57 Typicalwhitey

Indeed. It would be known as the the howls heard 'round the world.

71 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:50:50 pm reply quote 0

I wonder if this is his first protester. He is used to people swooning not criticizing.

72 Typicalwhitey  7/23/08 9:51:15 pm reply quote 0

A pic of him at the Wall
The caption at kos: This is deep, I am moved. By the diarist. Freakin hilarious!

73 Cognito  7/23/08 9:51:58 pm reply quote 0

The people at the Wall aren't exactly a go-along-to-get-along sort of people. I suspect Obama had a harsh reception, there.

74 pegcity  7/23/08 9:51:59 pm reply quote 0

re: #72 Typicalwhitey

my god i have that exact same picture, so do i dunno millions of other people.

75 nigella  7/23/08 9:52:34 pm reply quote 1

Typicalwhitey, I'm moved to.... to vomit!

76 K~Bob  7/23/08 9:52:41 pm reply quote 1

Meanwhile, Obama's talking up the great contributions by "Mookie" hasn't caused the Iraqis to back off. Over in Diyala province, they are planning to move in on AQ and the Mahdi Army. 30,000 Iraqi soldiers. Go get 'em!

{ Assume the usual emoticons. I'm harmless. }

77 Typicalwhitey  7/23/08 9:52:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #74 pegcity

What?

78 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:52:57 pm reply quote 0

That pic is so wrong.

79 pegcity  7/23/08 9:53:20 pm reply quote 0

re: #77 Typicalwhitey

a picture of me at the wall touching it, its not really that special everyone who vists takes the same picture.

80 CyanSnowHawk  7/23/08 9:53:28 pm reply quote 2

re: #4 jcw46

Waaiitt a minute. I always heard that "there's NO rest for the wicked".

Well, since when do the wicked follow the rules?

81 Typicalwhitey  7/23/08 9:53:58 pm reply quote 0

re: #78 Tarkus289
From the looks of some of the blogs on his website, I am sure that left a little burn circle on his head!

82 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:54:03 pm reply quote 5

Obambi is flatulent in many languages.

83 CyanSnowHawk  7/23/08 9:55:33 pm reply quote 0

re: #28 haakondahl

Any lizards in the San Diego area? I'm actually in the States this week, and would love to meet up with anybody around. Thursday evening or possibly Friday evening is what (I think) I have available. I'll buy the beer.

I'm here, but not available on those days? In town for ComiCon?

84 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:55:53 pm reply quote 0

re: #65 Tarkus289
what happens when two idiotarians come together? Is like matter and anti-matter? :)

85 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:55:55 pm reply quote 0

re: #81 Typicalwhitey

They'll give him a pass.

86 Killian Bundy  7/23/08 9:56:13 pm reply quote 3
Dem presidential hopeful Barack Obama, during a stop in Israel, in sisted that the U.S. hold direct talks with Iran, saying he would use “big sticks and big carrots” to persuade the country’s leaders not to develop nuclear weapons.

What a foreign policy genius.

/good thinking to hold the "massively ginormous sticks and the gigantically humongous carrots" in reserve

87 SpartanWoman  7/23/08 9:56:48 pm reply quote 0

re: #84 pingjockey

what happens when two idiotarians come together? Is like matter and anti-matter? :)

It certainly could be!

Live long and prosper Pingjockey

88 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:57:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #86 Killian Bundy
Big frakkin' sticks yes. No damn veggies though.

89 Tarkus289  7/23/08 9:57:20 pm reply quote 1

1 milligram carrot.
15 megaton Stick.

90 Mich-again  7/23/08 9:57:29 pm reply quote 0

Good background music... Weezer's new song Everybody Get Dangerous

"Some of my friends did,
They were all just a little bit wicked."

91 Racer X  7/23/08 9:57:43 pm reply quote 0

re: #76 K~Bob

Iraqi security forces are massing more than 30,000 soldiers and police for an upcoming operation against al Qaeda and the Mahdi Army in the eastern province of Diyala, according to police and military officials.

The operation, which was expected to be launched this week, has been scheduled to kick off on August 1, an anonymous senior Iraqi military officer told AFP. "The operation is aimed at cleansing the region of insurgents, al Qaeda and militias who are still there," the officer said.


Gee, does anyone really think this is going to be a success now that an "anonymous senior Iraqi military officer" has spilled the beans to the media?

Hey, where did they all go?

93 pingjockey  7/23/08 9:58:04 pm reply quote 0

re: #87 SpartanWoman
Thank you. May your dilithium crystalbe fruitful.

94 nigella  7/23/08 9:58:10 pm reply quote 0

Big sticks and big carrots....is that like a strongly worded letter from the UN?

95 pegcity  7/23/08 9:58:23 pm reply quote 2

re: #89 Tarkus289

screw the carrots, give up your nukes or you will see what it was like living in the 7th century you so worship.

96 Throbert McGee  7/23/08 9:58:43 pm reply quote 0

Although I labor without cease
At Dumas père and Dumas fils,
Alas, I simply do not care
For Dumas fils or Dumas père.
-- Dorothy Parker

(I always have to look it up, but Jr. is best known for Camille, and Sr. for The Three Musketeers and The Count of Monte Cristo.)

97 pingjockey  7/23/08 10:00:13 pm reply quote 0

re: #96 Throbert McGee
Ok, whatinhell is that avatar?

98 pegcity  7/23/08 10:00:48 pm reply quote 0

Obama incorrectly claims membership of Senate committee

Yeah opps.

CNN what a bunch of turds

99 CyanSnowHawk  7/23/08 10:03:29 pm reply quote 0

re: #83 CyanSnowHawk

I'm here, but not available on those days?

? Huh? What the hell did I do that for?

100 haakondahl  7/23/08 10:03:42 pm reply quote 0

re: #83 CyanSnowHawk

I'm here, but not available on those days? In town for ComiCon?

No, it's work. Sorry you can't make it. Lemme know if you can do it.

101 slokat  7/23/08 10:04:33 pm reply quote 1

Ok, (this might have been posted, didn't see it) the Govenator decided to rattle the cages of the state employees union - state employees to be paid minimum wage until budget approved.

102 CyanSnowHawk  7/23/08 10:05:21 pm reply quote 0

re: #67 nigella

I'm beginning to think Obama is believing his own press.There is a possibility he may have gone overboard in his belief that he is the chosen one. Hopefully I'M right.

Here's hoping that this backfires on him, big time.

103 pingjockey  7/23/08 10:05:50 pm reply quote 0

re: #101 slokat
That is gonna cause an uproar. :)

104 pegcity  7/23/08 10:06:05 pm reply quote 0

re: #102 CyanSnowHawk

the Media does love to build people up only to tear em down.

But this time who knows.

105 Lizard by the Bay  7/23/08 10:06:11 pm reply quote 0

Good lightning storms earlier tonight in the NC outer banks. But they've moved north.

107 pingjockey  7/23/08 10:06:47 pm reply quote 0

re: #104 pegcity
The media is too heavily invested in the obambi to tear him down.

108 jcw46  7/23/08 10:07:34 pm reply quote 0

Could Obama be the hidden imam?

109 Da_Beerfreak  7/23/08 10:08:54 pm reply quote 0

re: #86 Killian Bundy

What a foreign policy genius.

/good thinking to hold the "massively ginormous sticks and the gigantically humongous carrots" in reserve

Didn't Carter try that?
IIRC it almost got him eaten by a rabbit.
// {;-)™

110 Cartman  7/23/08 10:08:54 pm reply quote 2

Finally a new thread, and I'm to pooped to post. Seems to be going that way as of late. Prime Time LGF used to be informatively diverse and fun, but not so much lately. Hopefully, this too shall pass.

111 pingjockey  7/23/08 10:09:22 pm reply quote 0

re: #106 rawmuse
Anything done or said against obambi will be labeled racist. No free speech against the chosen one. Gaaaaaah!

112 Lizard by the Bay  7/23/08 10:09:47 pm reply quote 1

re: #108 jcw46

Could Obama be the hidden imam?

You give him too much credit. Obama is not the problem. He's an empty suit. His controllers are who we need to fear.

113 RTLM  7/23/08 10:10:06 pm reply quote 0

Obama rides a V-22 from Ramadi to Amman.
[Link: www.defensetech.org...]

Why? When he had his gleaming 757 sitting at Baghdad Int'l Airport.

114 wolfie  7/23/08 10:10:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #96 Throbert McGee

Devolution!

(I much prefer pere.)

115 pingjockey  7/23/08 10:10:11 pm reply quote 0

re: #108 jcw46
Is he wet? Did he just climb out of a well?

116 Pawn of the Oppressor  7/23/08 10:10:41 pm reply quote 0

re: #51 cutestguy

But he is the Messiah! The Lord of Lords and Host of Hosts! Such a fitting place to put it!

/yeesh!

I'm surprised he didn't pledge to personally rebuild the Temple. Yeesh.

117 CyanSnowHawk  7/23/08 10:10:55 pm reply quote 0

re: #104 pegcity

the Media does love to build people up only to tear em down.

But this time who knows.

It's so hard to read just what they are doing here, but I like that thought pegcity. It brings to mind a line from Dune, "Usul, we have wormsign the likes of which even god has never seen."

118 lifeofthemind  7/23/08 10:11:04 pm reply quote 1

re: #91 Racer X

Gee, does anyone really think this is going to be a success now that an "anonymous senior Iraqi military officer" has spilled the beans to the media?

Hey, where did they all go?

This is how third world, particularly Arab military or police forces operate. Arrange a big show for the visiting Americans. Make lots of loud noises and be sure the troops look inspection ready. Somehow though the word always gets out and the targets slip away. Remember the Americans will one day leave and everyone else will remain. Nobody wants to get caught up in a blood feud. Besides everyone is really related to some degree and you can't hurt your Uncles Cousins Nephews In Laws Niece's husband. If that fails everyone is a Muslim and protected (except for the few who are not and who are targets). Like with canine packs a leader's aggression is used to compel signs of submission after which the threat recedes. Saddam violated this rule by actually going after people and communities. In that he showed himself more a student of the secular soviets than of the religious tribal culture of Iraq. AQI also violated the expected standard and lost the tribes.

119 pingjockey  7/23/08 10:11:22 pm reply quote 0

re: #116 Pawn of the Oppressor
Cripes! Don't give him more ideas for pandering.

120 pegcity  7/23/08 10:11:49 pm reply quote 1

i remember when the media was convinced they had a kerry win in the bag as well.

The media loves to think they speak for all americans

121 paradox42  7/23/08 10:11:54 pm reply quote 0

Well, its getting late here in NY so I'm gonna have to sign off. Later lizards.

122 Mich-again  7/23/08 10:12:00 pm reply quote 0

re: #110 Cartman

Seems to be going that way as of late.

Pick your spots bro. Your opinion is much appreciated.

123 CyanSnowHawk  7/23/08 10:13:48 pm reply quote 0

re: #120 pegcity

i remember when the media was convinced they had a kerry win in the bag as well.

The media loves to think they speak for all americans

Sounds more like the unguarded thoughts that sneak out of our mouths when exceptionally inebriated.

124 Cartman  7/23/08 10:14:45 pm reply quote 0

re: #122 Mich-again

Thanks Mich, but the spots (topics) to pick from seem to grow fewer and farther between, at least for me.

125 pegcity  7/23/08 10:15:18 pm reply quote 0

re: #123 CyanSnowHawk

Bar talk

"Yeah id so do Obama, hes so hot"

"Um Katie were live on the Air"

126 rawmuse  7/23/08 10:17:09 pm reply quote 0
127 realwest  7/23/08 10:17:57 pm reply quote 0

re: #9 PSGInfinity
Well some of that cool lightning hit a car in our parking lot, literally no more than about 75 feet from our ground floor apartement! The sound - BLAST actually, and the smell was astounding.
But even more astounding is that Duke Power kept the power going!

128 Lizard by the Bay  7/23/08 10:18:05 pm reply quote 2

Despite Ben Stein's unpopularity here at LGF of late, I enjoyed his visit to Glenn Beck tonight. He was very quick to compare the giant 75,000 person stadium coronation of Emperor Obama with a classic '40s fascist rally, something I haven't heard outside the blogs before.

129 hermeneutics  7/23/08 10:18:25 pm reply quote 1

Have you noticed that the fawning journalists travelling with Obama cannot be heard? The questions they ask him aren't heard -- just his answers. Listeners, then, cannot tell if he really answered the question.

130 pingjockey  7/23/08 10:19:34 pm reply quote 0

re: #126 rawmuse
Ted for VP!

131 pegcity  7/23/08 10:20:22 pm reply quote 0

re: #129 hermeneutics

Does the messiah permit questions?

132 K~Bob  7/23/08 10:20:45 pm reply quote 1

re: #91 Racer X

Gee, does anyone really think this is going to be a success now that an "anonymous senior Iraqi military officer" has spilled the beans to the media?

Hey, where did they all go?

AQ and Mahdi guys drug their asses to Diyala to avoid getting killed in Sadr City and elsewhere. Iraqi Army isn't just lining up in Diyala at some starting line. They have undoubtedly cordoned off the area, and the locals (who hate both groups) will let 'em know where to go. They also have other assets in play. The Iraqi army is actually getting good at this stuff.

{ Assume, etc. }

133 pingjockey  7/23/08 10:20:46 pm reply quote 2

re: #128 Lizard by the Bay
I like Ben. He just went off the rails a bit.

134 hermeneutics  7/23/08 10:21:45 pm reply quote