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Obama Speaks in Front of Berlin Monument

Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:07:37 am PDT

Barack Obama’s speech in front of Berlin’s Victory Column is about to begin. Here’s an open thread for it; the crowd looks enormous.

The history of the Victory Column makes it a rather peculiar choice for this speech.

The Victory Column originally stood in Königsplatz (now Platz der Republik), at the end of the Siegesallee (Victory Avenue). As part of the preparation of the monumental plans to redesign Berlin into Welthauptstadt Germania, in 1939, the Nazis relocated the column to its present site at the Großer Stern (Great Star), a large intersection on the city axis that leads from the former Berliner Stadtschloss (Berlin City Palace) through the Brandenburg Gate to the western parts of the city. At the same time, the column was augmented by another 7.5 meters, giving it its present height of 70 meters. The monument survived World War II without much damage. The relocation of the monument probably saved it from destruction, as its old site in front of the Reichstag was destroyed.

Surrounded by a heavily trafficked street circle, pedestrians can reach the column through four tunnels, built in 1941 to plans by Albert Speer.

UPDATE at 7/24/08 10:32:09 am:

How in the world do you give a speech about the fall of the Berlin Wall ... and not even mention Ronald Reagan?

UPDATE at 7/24/08 10:36:57 am:

Obama’s only comment about the American presidents who have spoken in Berlin before him: “I know that I don’t look like the other Americans who’ve previously spoken in this great city.”

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1 Venezuela lover  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:08:26am

Beer. Where is the Beer. No beer. No Obama.

2 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:08:58am

Should be gaffe-tastic!

3 Opinionated  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:09:47am

I have to believe that even many mainstream Democrats are beginning to get sick of this arrogant.....

4 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:09:52am

finally: a back drop as dense as he is.....

5 pat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:09:55am

I doubt Obama is aware of the "victory" for which the monument was named. In fact I doubt Obama knows what side Germany was on In WWII.

6 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:09:56am

So, what's he going to speak about?

7 jordash1212  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:09:58am

What is he doing there? He has to get elected first...

8 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:09:58am

Ist Iraq burnink?

9 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:10:14am

There are no mangers in Berlin, so the Victory column made for a substitute.

10 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:10:22am

Leave it to the Nazi's to make it longer.

11 zombie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:10:30am

OK, time for me to log off. I can't take any more. I'm already Obama'd out for today, and it's only 10am!

12 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:10:36am
13 barry the baptist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:10:41am

What a schmuck.

14 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:11:06am

All balls and no substance.

15 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:11:18am

re: #8 itellu3times

Ist Iraq burnink?

"Icht bin ein Appeaser!"

16 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:11:34am

re: #1 Venezuela lover

Beer. Where is the Beer. No beer. No Obama.

In heaven there is no beer.

What do you want from the Obamessiah?

17 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:11:37am

I'd bet good money Obama doesn't even know the history of the thing. He just heard "Victory Column" and thought that would be the place for him. That it was designed by the Nazis is just happenstance.

18 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:11:46am

re: #14 Teacake!

All balls and no substance.

All hat, no cattle.

19 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:11:47am

Note to Obama: the Valkyries will come home to roost

20 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:12:05am

Lighter than air,
Less experienced than springtime,
...


hey Charles my IE6 has the slow-typing bug happening again...

21 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:12:21am

re: #16 OldLineTexan

In heaven there is no beer.

Then I am not going.

22 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:12:34am

re: #12 jcm

Early release of contents of speech.

Crying supporters and BallOOONS!

Someone please photoshop Obama's face on her placard, please!

23 Pigtown Water Dog  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:12:35am

Rush played RWR's famous "tear down this wall" clip, and I got all emo in the car listening to thoat powerful force for good.

I have a feeling I'm going to be overcome with something less than pleasant when I hear the little O's sound bites.

24 shiplord kirel  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:12:38am

"Ich bin ein beginner!"

25 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:12:57am

re: #17 Iron Fist

I'd bet good money Obama doesn't even know the history of the thing. He just heard "Victory Column" and thought that would be the place for him. That it was designed by the Nazis is just happenstance.

The Victory Column is a famous sight in Berlin, Germany. Designed by Heinrich Strack after 1864 to commemorate the Prussian victory in the Danish-Prussian war, by the time it was inaugurated on 2 September 1873 Prussia had also defeated Austria in the Austro-Prussian War (1866) and France in the Franco-Prussian War (1870/1871), giving the statue a new purpose. Different from the original plans, these later victories in the so-called Unification Wars inspired the addition of the bronze sculpture of Victoria, 8.3 meters high and weighing 35 tonnes, designed by Friedrich Drake. Berliners, with their fondness for giving nicknames to famous buildings, call the statue Goldelse, meaning something like "Golden Lizzy".[1]

26 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:03am

Did Obama grow a little square mustache for this speech?

27 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:23am

re: #22 NoSubmission

Crying supporters and BallOOONS!

Someone please photoshop Obama's face on her placard, please!

Neun and neunzig Luftballons?

/if it is, DUCK and COVER

28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:27am

Well, with a rally like this, he'll have the european vote locked down for sure.

Wait a sec...

29 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:36am

listening to Rush, Pelosi says Bush is sitting on oil, the strategic petroleum reserve, "Mr. President, free our oil!"

30 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:44am

re: #24 shiplord kirel,

That he's a beginner is bad enough. It's what he's beginning that is truly troublesome.

31 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:53am

re: #26 jorline

Did Obama grow a little square mustache for this speech?

No, it's the South Park episode variety.

32 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:54am

re: #6 NoSubmission

About how great America would be if it were only more like Europe.

33 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:14:02am

ich bin ein arsch loch.

34 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:14:04am

BTW - Casualty numbers out of Iraq are stunning. 11 deaths this month - 4 are accidents, 2 are bodies recovered from an AQI grave (they were killed by AQI before July), 5 are KIAs.

[Link: icasualties.org...]

35 CIA Reject  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:14:31am

re: #14 Teacake!

All balls and no substance.

All foam and no beer

/Appropriate to the venue...

36 shiplord kirel  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:14:40am

Leni Riefenstahl is looking up from hell and saying, "Damn! If I had only been born fifty years later...."

37 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:15:06am

re: #32 arizona9

About how great America would be if it were only more like Europe.


Yes, after Obama is crowned for life, we will be known as Eurmerica.

New flag, new everything! bunnies and rainbows!

38 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:15:09am

I hope loses his place in the teleprompter.

39 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:15:38am

re: #29 itellu3times

listening to Rush, Pelosi says Bush is sitting on oil, the strategic petroleum reserve, "Mr. President, free our oil!"

But the Strategic Petroleum Reserve isn't oil there is.

/buzzsaw not here? ... simply filling in

40 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:15:40am

It wasn't designed by the Nazis -- but it was moved to its current location and greatly enhanced by the Nazis.

I've been there, and climbed the stairway to the top.

41 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:16:12am

I think someone said on the other thread that its rather strange he would visit Israel then go to Hitler's favorite place for a speech.

Was this coincidence? or a little manufactured dig from the puppet's master George Soros?

42 Pigtown Water Dog  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:16:13am

Hoping for EPIC fail on this.

43 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:16:49am

The Fascist Tool Barack Obama

44 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:04am

re: #40 Charles

It wasn't designed by the Nazis -- but it was moved to its current location and greatly enhanced by the Nazis.

I've been there, and climbed the stairway to the top.

Is Barack buying the stairway?

45 granitebill  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:06am

OT
Trouble brewing for swiss...
[Link: english.aljazeera.net...]

46 CIA Reject  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:10am

re: #25 jcm

Somewhere out there in cyberspace there has got to be a photograph of Adolf Hitler giving a speech in front of that monument. What a juxtaposition that would make with a picture of BO speaking at the same site....

47 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:19am

re: #29 itellu3times

listening to Rush, Pelosi says Bush is sitting on oil, the strategic petroleum reserve, "Mr. President, free our oil!"



She's a moron.

Access to the reserve is determined by the conditions written into the 1975 Energy Policy and Conservation Act (EPCA), primarily to counter a severe supply interruption. The maximum removal rate, by physical constraints, is 4.4 million barrels per day (700,000 m³/d). Oil could begin entering the marketplace 13 days after a Presidential order. The Dept. of Energy says that it has about 59 days of import protection in the SPR. This, combined with private sector inventory protection, is estimated to equal 115 days of imports.

We don't have a supply interruption, we have increased demand.

48 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:26am

Will Obama be speaking German or Spanish?

49 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:35am

Well all presume that Obam'uh or his staff have any actual useable knowledge of history. Based on past gaffes, statements, and actions, I do not believe this to be the case.

~History not necessary when you are looking forward to Change.

50 Opinionated  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:18:12am

re: #48 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Will Obama be speaking German or Spanish?

Esperanto

51 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:18:24am

re: #49 WrathofG-d

Well all presume that Obam'uh or his staff have any actual useable knowledge of history. Based on past gaffes, statements, and actions, I do not believe this to be the case.

~History not necessary when you are looking forward to Change.

Change the past.

52 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:18:25am

re: #20 itellu3times

Lighter than air,
Less experienced than springtime,
...

"Springtime for Obama and Jihad,
Winter for everyone else!"

53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:18:52am

re: #48 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Will Obama be speaking German or Spanish?

The international language of UH

54 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:18:54am

This is bad. The visuals are going to aid & comfort the U.S moonbat poulation.
Could somebody do a rain dance?

55 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:07am

re: #50 Opinionated

Esperanto

One BILLION updings.

56 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:13am

he has been a fraud on his tour.
no real questions taken or answered. nothing profound said.
uh, uh,uh, uuuh. a buffoon stalking around embarrassing himself.
his huge crowd is comprised of stupid european socialists who hate america.
let them keep b.o.

57 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:17am

re: #34 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - Casualty numbers out of Iraq are stunning. 11 deaths this month - 4 are accidents, 2 are bodies recovered from an AQI grave (they were killed by AQI before July), 5 are KIAs.

[Link: icasualties.org...]

The surge is a failure, we are losing and need to get out.
/Obama, Pelousy, Mutha(fucke)r

58 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:25am

re: #25 jcm,

I was going on the

Surrounded by a heavily trafficked street circle, pedestrians can reach the column through four tunnels, built in 1941 to plans by Albert Speer.


But what does it tell you that he would choose a place dedicated to the military victories of Prussia while he remains opposed to American victory in Iraq?

No, my bet is he doesn't know the history of the monument. He just thinks it sounds cool. It'll be a good place for the citizens of Berlin to adore him, which is what this particular excercize is about, aanyway.

59 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:25am

While Obama is in Germany...McCain is suffering from altitude sickness in the Mile High City....he's meeting who? He must be high!

60 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:36am

re: #37 NoSubmission

Kittens! Chocolate rivers and gum drop smiles!

God, not even dripping sarcasm is making me feel better. Forget the Advil, where's the vodka?

61 BingoBunny  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:40am

Heil Obama

62 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:54am

re: #54 opnion

This is bad. The visuals are going to aid & comfort the U.S moonbat poulation.

t'saright, it's pissing off pretty much everyone else.

63 red satellite  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:15am
The monument survived World War II without much damage.

Yah...but the pigeons...uh...not so much.

64 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:16am

re: #3 Opinionated

I have to believe that even many mainstream Democrats are beginning to get sick of this arrogant.....

Most of them will still see him as the lesser of two evils and vote for him anyway despite all his flaws.

After all, that's exactly why most of the people here are voting for McCain.

65 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:45am

Bet he had to bite his tongue to keep from callling Chancellor Merkel "sweetie."

66 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:53am

'I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before. Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen -- a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.

I think DUAL Citizenship should be illegal.

BARRY, pick one ! USA, or World ! (please please please, if there is a God in heaven !)

67 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:53am

re: #58 Iron Fist

,

I was going on the


But what does it tell you that he would choose a place dedicated to the military victories of Prussia while he remains opposed to American victory in Iraq?

No, my bet is he doesn't know the history of the monument. He just thinks it sounds cool. It'll be a good place for the citizens of Berlin to adore him, which is what this particular excercize is about, aanyway.

The plaza was built by the Nazi and the statue move to the present column.

And yes he is the clueless one.

68 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:21:08am

Any live feed?


OT:

While online Republicans chase the allure of punditry and commentary, Democrats and progressives are pursuing old-fashioned shoe-leather reporting, in a fashion reminiscent of 2004. Back then, the Drudge Report and other lesser-known conservative portals played a key role in defining John Kerry and pushing back against criticism of George W. Bush, such as when conservative bloggers debunked documents purportedly related to the president’s Air National Guard service.

Lesser known? LESSER KNOWN?!?!?!?!?!

LGF gets no love.

GOP losing the new-media war

69 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:21:10am

re: #40 Charles

It wasn't designed by the Nazis -- but it was moved to its current location and greatly enhanced by the Nazis.

I've been there, and climbed the stairway to the top.

Hitler's Stairway To Heaven?

70 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:21:31am

Why is the guy who told us that "we cannot run our air-conditioners at 72" and "use our S.U.V.s", flying around the World in a Huge Oil guzzling plane?

other O Force One News: The Plane Crashed Into Another Plane Allready

~all following "Airplane" and "Speaking Jive" comments will be considered Racist. /psych!

71 Venezuela lover  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:21:36am

re: #34 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - Casualty numbers out of Iraq are stunning. 11 deaths this month - 4 are accidents, 2 are bodies recovered from an AQI grave (they were killed by AQI before July), 5 are KIAs.

[Link: icasualties.org...]

Pray that casualties continue declining.

72 Vergeltung  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:21:42am

silly euro-wienies, supporting him like he's a rock star. pathetic.

73 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:21:47am

It would be interesting to see the behind the scenes manufacturing process for this guy and how all the decisions are made and studied. Must be a few ex MTV people on staff at the very least.

74 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:21:49am

re: #63 red satellite

Yah...but the pigeons...uh...not so much.

Maybe not cleaning it for the past two weeks was Germany's way of saying "no way José".

75 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:21:57am

re: #48 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Will Obama be speaking German or Spanish?

Esperanto. He is an inclusive lightworker.

76 freedomplow  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:22:00am

OBAMA Lures Massive German Crowd With Rock Bands, Brats & Beer

HERE's a video of a Raemonn rock concert to give you an idea of what kind of crowd you might expect today.

77 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:22:16am
78 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:22:18am

Omg! He's doing a dramatic walk up! I'm not going to last 2 minutes.

79 Power Armored Lizardoid  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:22:25am

Is it just me, or is this kind of election world tour unprecedented? I don't even remember that slimeball Clinton pulling this crap before he was elected. This guy has a lot of guts...

What the crap do I care how much he's loved overseas (especially Europe and in Muslim countries) ? Anything they love, I am inclined to dislike automatically...

80 Alouette  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:22:31am

Ich bin ein Scheißkopf!

81 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:23:00am

here we go

82 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:23:05am

re: #53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The international language of UH

Give him some credit. He has also mastered UM.

83 victor_yugo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:23:08am

re: #66 sattv4u2

'I come to Berlin as so many of my countrymen have come before. Tonight, I speak to you not as a candidate for President, but as a citizen -- a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.

As Paul Harvey is fond of saying, it is not one world.

84 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:23:36am

re: #22 NoSubmission
The obama phallic speech.

85 Tumulus11  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:23:42am

. Once he's whipped the crowd into a frenzy, Obama will ask if they're ready for total war against climate change.

86 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:23:52am

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I come here to tell you that AMERICA SUCKS.

Please like me!

Thank you, good night.

87 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:17am

re: #62 itellu3times

t'saright, it's pissing off pretty much everyone else.

I think so. Even some of the media pom squad are starting to notice that he is an egomaniac.

88 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:22am
89 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:27am
a proud citizen of the United States, and a fellow citizen of the world.

DID he really say that? I don't have a TV. If so, that's a sure sign he's part of the one world order, and even though it sounds paranoid, despite all the evidence, islam is the chosen ideology. This is too creepy!

90 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:28am

re: #86 Ben Hur

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I come here to tell you that AMERICA SUCKS.

Please like me!

Thank you, good night.

Take my wife, PLEASE!

91 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:30am

Identity politics right away!

92 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:33am

Doesn't look the same? He's a man - looks the same to me.

93 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:34am

'Fellow citizen of the world'.

That's it, I'm done. I'll read your comments. I just can't listen to it. I was wrong, I lasted 10 seconds.

94 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:40am

Ululululululu!

95 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:46am

cheers for the goat herding father ~!

WTF !

96 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:47am

damn ulaulaulas LOL

97 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:04am

A Kenyan ululation.

98 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:14am
99 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:14am

re: #89 Teacake!

see my #66

100 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:25am

is this on tv?

101 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:31am

they are roaring at the citizen of the world shit.

102 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:31am

re: #91 Charles,

But I thought he was the new post-racial candidate. I'm sooooo disappointed.

103 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:32am

I'm not impressed with the crowd size.

104 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:39am

Okay, speech on Rush.... turning this into a racial thing first thing off the bat.

105 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:42am

I need a live feed, people.

106 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:45am

re: #88 buzzsawmonkey

Is that oil there is?
If that's oil there is, my friends, then let's keep dancing
Let's break out the overpriced ethanol
If that's all
There is.

Whatta gas! I knew that'd get you cracking.

107 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:48am

what channel?

108 Angus Day  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:50am

Oh Dear - he's a "citizen of the world"...

109 nigella  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:55am

"I come to you not as a politician, but as a proud citizen of the World, and the new over-lord of what was once known as the United States."

110 Ornery Ballsack  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:55am

Somebody (PBUH) answered his father's prayer.

111 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:57am

re: #76 freedomplow

OBAMA Lures Massive German Crowd With Rock Bands, Brats & Beer

HERE's a video of a Raemonn rock concert to give you an idea of what kind of crowd you might expect today.

No new tricks here...same as his campaign trail.

Feed them, give them pacifiers and fill them with Ecstasy!

112 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:59am

re: #100 NoSubmission

is this on tv?

It's the reason for tv.

113 Opinionated  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:26:03am

My blood pressure is rising with every word.

114 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:26:05am

listening to rush too :)

115 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:26:07am

He brings his race into the speech after ten thousand thank you's! God help us

116 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:26:10am

re: #101 nyc redneck,

He really said that? I thought that was just snark!

117 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:26:19am

Obama just received a real-live ululation for his father being a goatherder from Kenya and the crowd went wild - for the ululation.

118 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:26:39am

rubble built into a wall?

119 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:01am

re: #108 Angus Day

Oh Dear - he's a "citizen of the world"...

The why the fu*k is he running for President of The United States of America!

120 JamesTKirk  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:12am

re: #97 Charles

A Kenyan ululation.

Forget Norway.

121 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:17am

If Obama mentions Reagan and gets applause for it - even I'll vote for the guy!

122 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:19am

He is NOT there as a citizen. His campaign organized and paid for this speech.

123 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:20am

Speaking in front of the Victory Column, which was erected after three wars of agression by Prussia/Germany. There he goes with that dubious judgement again.

124 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:23am

i hope rush doesnt stop criticing the speech, he is ripping it to shreds lol

125 J.S.  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:32am

yeah, where's the ululating? The crowd does appear large...(also, off topic slightly, the Victory Column was/is Prussian...topped with the figure of Borussia..)

126 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:46am
127 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:49am

CNN, it figures..

128 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:56am

re: #105 Ben Hur

I need a live feed, people.

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

129 opnion  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:57am

The reicarnation of Saladin in Eurabia.

130 Opinionated  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:58am

Anyone want to bet?

Does he complement Reagan for winning the Cold War?

131 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:11am

Blockade?

Like the Arab blockade of J-m?

132 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:12am

But he IS a commie so what's the point of this?

133 Big Steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:17am

Don't know how it is in your area but in these parts down in Texas being cheered by Europeans is the kiss of death.

134 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:38am

Why is he shouting?

135 alegrias  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:40am

Der Heilige One, on his first visit to Iraq & Afghanistan in 900 days, is skipping visiting our wounded troops in Landstuhl Hospital--after announcing Obama would visit the troops--to go sightseeing tonight.

Per Weekly Standard & drudge.

136 mossley  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:42am

Betcha dollars to donuts this site was chosen for its visual appeal rather than any actual knowledge of what it is or stands for. Style over substance is the hallmark of his campaign after all.

137 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:49am

He just dismissed the entire Cold War.

138 J.S.  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:53am

"People of the world look to berlin?" wtf.

139 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:53am

re: #128 itellu3times

Thanks

140 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:00am

I sense some podium pounding coming on....

141 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:02am

#137
yep

142 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:03am

He reminds me of you-know-who.

143 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:03am

re: #125 J.S.

yeah, where's the ululating? The crowd does appear large...(also, off topic slightly, the Victory Column was/is Prussian...topped with the figure of Borussia..)

Interesting statue that... It's a mix. Angel wings, Valkyrie stance, Victory wreath in right hand, Gungnir with Odin's Cross in the left.

144 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:08am

I don't have a channel...was this guy there? I bet her was.

145 abolitionist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:13am

re: #50 Opinionated

Esperanto

Soros and his father were original proponents of this synthetic language.

146 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:16am

This is a bad speech; worse, the crowd is getting cooler.

He's making a mess of his coronation.

147 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:23am

re: #137 jcm,

Because his side lost.

148 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:27am

He's teaching Berliner's their history.

Arrogant.

149 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:31am

very small applauses

150 Limitbreak22  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:34am

Obama makes me retch. That man is disgusting.

151 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:34am

People of the world, look at Berlin?

Give me a fucking break.

152 barry the baptist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:37am

re: #111 jorline

Bread and circuses.....

153 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:50am

Lots of repetition...

154 Opinionated  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:56am

Unbelievable. He is thanking the Germans for American achievements.

155 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:56am

Where did JFK give his speech?

156 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:00am

I thought he was supposed to be on a fact finding mission?

THis is truely disgusting!

What is the point of his making speeches in other nations? His arrogance is monumental. Hate him even more than yesterday.

157 itellu3times  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:05am

people of the world stuff is bloated and stale

158 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:07am

Rev. Obama

159 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:15am

People of the World do your duty!

What? Vote?

160 J.S.  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:24am

More ululating...

161 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:25am

re: #154 Opinionated

Unbelievable. He is thanking the Germans for American achievements.

Yep.

162 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:30am

He's awful.

His eyes scare me.

163 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:35am

The Euros are quite a few years behind us on the saturation media learning curve, for the obvious reason that we invented saturation media as a political force and are therefore the first to reach a stage of skepticism and cynicism.
The messiah is catching them very close to their peak of susceptibility and audience pliability, quite similar to the US circa 1975.

164 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:38am

re: #154 Opinionated

Unbelievable. He is thanking the Germans for American achievements.

Exactly.

165 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:39am

I wonder if he's going to lecture the Germans on their treatment of Turkish immigrants and their attitudes to Turks in general.

I wonder if he's going to lecture the Euroes on how they barley have any PEOPLE OF COLOR in their parliments.

166 Dolphin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:49am

re: #153 NoSubmission

No teleprompter.

/couldn't help myself.

167 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:51am
168 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:53am

Hearing German's chant "yes we can" makes me nervous.

169 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:56am

I hate the way he speechifies. His cadence is really annoying.

170 alegrias  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:56am

re: #130 Opinionated

Anyone want to bet?

Does he complement Reagan for winning the Cold War?

* * *
Of course not, he's there to beg forgiveness for winning the Cold War.

He wants to undo Reagan.

171 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:57am

omg he is trying to latch onto the whole wall coming down thing

172 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:59am

FNC is covering it but has a side ticker of weather warnings, missing toddler and batman speaks. I think they're sending a lovely message.

173 Vergeltung  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:04am

re: #50 Opinionated

Esperanto

si. Esperanto y Cambia!

174 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:07am

He isn't even crediting Ronald Reagan. Hasn't mentioned him.

175 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:18am

I'm surprised he hasn't come out with a parody of the German Chancellor's Seal.

176 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:28am

The wall didn't divide,

IT KEPT PEOPLE IN LIKE PRISONERS.

177 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:35am

I have a vantage point typing this into a mobile phone. I see mostly American Obama fans cheering desperatly, Germans watching with hands in pockets.

178 Tumulus11  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:37am

'New peril.'

. Global warming.

179 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:45am

re: #155 WrathofG-d

Where did JFK give his speech?

Brandenburg Gates

180 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:45am

Now, he's giving Berlin credit for the fall of the Berlin wall and the spread of democracy world wide!

181 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:45am

re: #154 Opinionated

Unbelievable. He is thanking the Germans for American achievements.

And the crowd is not going wild. They expected something better, with more red meat; a few swipes at Bush would get them warmed up, but this is day old bread, soaked in warm water.

182 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:48am

Here we go. He's going to lower the ocean.

183 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:57am

re: #155 WrathofG-d

Where did JFK give his speech?

The Brandenberg Gate at the end of the street leading up to the Victory Tower where he's speaking.

184 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:06am

no fearmongering here no sir

185 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:09am

He's angry.

186 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:12am

How in the world do you give a speech about the fall of the Berlin Wall ... and not even mention Ronald Reagan?

187 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:19am

Charles he's plagiarizing wildly, not just Reagan

188 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:25am

re: #169 Catttt

I hate the way he speechifies. His cadence is really annoying.

It drips with condescension.

189 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:26am

#62 His blue lips and teeth like big diamonds scares me!

190 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:33am

Such a positive speech.

191 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:33am

re: #186 Charles


he figured out how

192 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:34am

OMG the global warming crap!

193 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:34am

re: #117 Eric Cartman's Conscience

Obama just received a real-live ululation for his father being a goatherder from Kenya and the crowd went wild - for the ululation.

That's probably because only about 10% of those there (who obviously had nothing better to do) don't understand english.

194 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:39am

Plagiarizing, YES HE CAN

195 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:46am

'Poorly secured nuclear material in Russia?'

The U.S. and U.N. is/has paid millions to secure that stuff.

196 Big Steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:47am

I can't see, I can't see. Is the audience forcing their hands down to avoid the Sieg Heil ala Peter Sellers in Dr. Stranglove?

197 J.S.  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:49am

re: #143 Thanos

here's an article on the column...according to the article "Borussia, the allegorical figure of Prussia..." (I find the whole thing troubling to say the least...it's a very mixed signal being sent here.)

198 harrylook  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:50am

BHO probably thinks the Victory Column commemorates the liberation of Europe by Uncle Charlie.

199 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:51am

re: #186 Charles

How in the world do you give a speech about the fall of the Berlin Wall ... and not even mention Ronald Reagan?

It's easy when you think of yourself as "the savior of humanity".

200 alegrias  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:53am

Thursday, July 24, 2008

Obama Has Time to Go Sightseeing But Not Meet Wounded Veterans
Ed Morrissey notes a Der Spiegel report that Obama is skipping his planned meeting with U.S. troops in Germany:

++ Visit to US Military Bases Cancelled ++

1:42 p.m.: SPIEGEL ONLINE has learned that Obama has cancelled a planned short visit to the Rammstein and Landstuhl US military bases in the southwest German state of Rhineland-Palatinate. The visits were planned for Friday. “Barack Obama will not be coming to us,” a spokesperson for the US military hospital in Landstuhl announced. “I don’t know why.” Shortly before the same spokeswoman had announced a planned visit by Obama.


Certainly there could be circumstances that justify this, but Obama said this morning: "we've got some down time tonight. What are you guys gonna do in Berlin? Huh? Huh? You guys got any big. plans? ...I've never been to Berlin, so...I would love to tour around a little bit."

It would be egregious for Obama to snub wounded troops from Iraq and Afghanistan at Landstuhl--especially after rejecting an invitation to attend a townhall with veterans, service members, and military families at a U.S. base.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Obama campaign finds a way to make it to Landstuhl. If they don't, it will look like the trip to Iraq and Afghanistan was nothing more than a photo-op with Petraeus and the troops.

Posted by John McCormack at 12:49 PM
2008
[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

201 arizona9  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:02am

Is he speaking in his fake Southern accent he loves so much?

202 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:09am

re: #151 Wendya

People of the world, look at Berlin?

Give me a fucking break.

re: #133 Big Steve

Don't know how it is in your area but in these parts down in Texas being cheered by Europeans is the kiss of death.

Yes, nothing is more likely to persuade American voters than a raucous endorsement by a Berlin mob.

203 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:11am

what the hell is this speech? It a string of non-sequitor catch phrases..

204 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:17am

What?

205 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:20am

"People of Berlin, I tore down that wall!"

206 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:32am

I really don't think this speech is going to go over well with anyone other than leftists or people born in the 80's.

207 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:32am

Actually, I'll bet most Germans over 35 are totally disgusted by his hubris.

208 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:35am

He's running for President of Earth.

209 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:37am

re: #179 Thanos

ah. Wasn't BHO turned away from Brandenburg?

210 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:44am

Is it me or is the crowd just a bit less enthusiastic after the mention of the 9/11 hijackers being trained in Hamburg?

211 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:45am

He just mis-pronounced "responsibility"

Figures

212 harrylook  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:47am

re: #128 itellu3times

Danke!

213 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:54am

He didn't help with liberating Berlin at all

214 J.S.  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:55am

re: #155 WrathofG-d

I heard that JFK's speech was in front of Berlin's city hall...not under the Victory Column.

215 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:56am

Poverty causes terrorism, Darfur is what?

216 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:58am

re: #207 Teacake!

Actually, I'll bet most Germans over 35 are totally disgusted by his hubris.


Most Germans over 35 are drunk right now.

217 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:58am

re: #205 EC Marm

"People of Berlin, I tore down that wall!"

"When I defeated Hitler, it helped you immensly"

218 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:59am

Notice the crowd is not enthralled?

219 Angus Day  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:00am

Hmmm, you know just watching this, I'm thinking - what on earth is he doing there? A three year US senator standing in Berling mouthing idiot platitudes.

Seriously, WTF?

220 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:02am

smattering of applause for 15mn of bs

221 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:10am

There are a few hundred people clapping, the rest is looking kinda bored

222 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:10am

re: #186 Charles

How in the world do you give a speech about the fall of the Berlin Wall ... and not even mention Ronald Reagan?

Because Pres. Reagan has an "R" after his name.

/

223 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:14am

why is he doing this?

224 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:23am

Obama Speaks in Front of Berlin Monument

As rainbows criss-cross the German sky, and doves land on each of the Obamassiah shoulders, the hopeful and the faithful cling to each and every word. The False Prophet, he of slippery, silvery tongue shall anoint the masses. The ant-American American, he with aspirations to lead the free world as POTUS, has arrived...

225 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:27am

I refuse to watch him. C'mon - I need some better mocking...

226 Pyrocles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:37am

He was a Rethuglican! Can't mention him, no way.

re: #186 Charles

How in the world do you give a speech about the fall of the Berlin Wall ... and not even mention Ronald Reagan?

227 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:38am

re: #142 Catttt

He reminds me of you-know-who.

Voldemort?

228 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:40am

How old was Baruch when the wall went up? Or down?

If he was young it has zero historical significance.

229 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:47am

I'm king President of the world!

Obama/Pinocchio '08

/because you can't handle the truth

230 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:47am

re: #208 NoSubmission

He's running for President of Earth.

I'm betting that after he loses the election he becomes the next President of the UN.

231 PenguinSix  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:51am

You won't believe these newspaper photos of Obama today

[Link: www.spiegel.de...]

232 Big Steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:55am

re: #205 EC Marm

"People of Berlin, I tore down that wall!"

That's not the wall I remember.....

233 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:59am

back to the wall ...

234 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:03am

re: #197 J.S.

here's an article on the column...according to the article "Borussia, the allegorical figure of Prussia..." (I find the whole thing troubling to say the least...it's a very mixed signal being sent here.)

Here's a pic of the top, small but if you look close you can see the Odin's cross on the spear.

235 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:09am

The crowds were in a MUCH BETTER mood when German soccer team LOST the finals

236 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:11am

Rush just made a great point. He is in Germany speaking to Germans in ENGLISH. When just a few weeks ago he was chastising Americans for not speaking a foreign language when in Europe.

237 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:13am

can we get him offcamera?

238 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:14am

re: #214 J.S.

I heard that JFK's speech was in front of Berlin's city hall...not under the Victory Column.



Brandenburg Gate at The Wall.

239 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:15am

the walls
the walls

the walls!

240 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:17am

If Europe could vote in November we'd be fucked! Thank goodness they can't. WHAT HAS EUROPE done for the world since WW11. I am getting sick and very worried about the future if he is elected.

241 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:22am

re: #203 Kenneth

And they're not exactly happy with him, are they?

The applause sounds anything but enthusiastic.

242 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:24am

re: #198 harrylook

BHO probably thinks the Victory Column commemorates the liberation of Europe by Uncle Charlie.

Uncle Charlie from "My Three Sons"?

243 Opinionated  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:26am

re: #208 NoSubmission

He's running for President of Earth.

He came "to serve man".

244 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:32am

re: #236 newsjunkie_ky

very good point

245 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:38am

first mention of muslim word

246 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:39am
#216 Actually, I'll bet most Germans over 35 are totally disgusted by his hubris. Most Germans over 35 are drunk right now.

LOLOLOL! I think you're right!

247 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:42am

"My Uncle, a typical white man, liberated the concentration camps from your grandparents........ oh wait, um....uh.....nevermind......so where was I?....um......uh......I'm tired....oh yea......citizen of the world...

248 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:44am

Obama is terribly shallow. He's not really saying anything.

249 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:46am

ohgd the walls again

250 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:47am

wall

251 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:52am

re: #209 WrathofG-d

ah. Wasn't BHO turned away from Brandenburg?

Yeppers, Merkel wasn't going to have that.

252 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:59am

re: #154 Opinionated
Uh, can't listen to speech, but what American achievements is he giving to the Germans?!
And he never mentioned Ronald Reagan or at the very least Bush I (whom I think was POTUS when the Wall actually came down)?!

253 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:05am

Germany: Keep him.

254 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:05am

re: #203 Kenneth

what the hell is this speech? It a string of non-sequitor catch phrases..

That's all his candidacy has been so far. A bunch of fluff and catch phrases but nothing concrete.

If you let go, Obama floats away like a big red ballon.

255 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:14am

wall

/drink

256 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:15am

Rush is doing a running commentary while playing the speech on his show.

257 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:25am

re: #255 trailortrash

wall

/drink

I'm hammered!

258 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:31am

He just said we must tear down the walls between Muslim & Jews. F*ck him if he thinks that means the security walls keeping terrorists our of Israel.

259 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:31am

World wide re-distribution of wealth.

260 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:34am

walss

261 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:35am

re: #228 Ben Hur

How old was Baruch when the wall went up? Or down?

If he was young it has zero historical significance.

He's just a year or so older than I am and I was serving in the Navy in Scotland when the wall went down....and it was of tremendous significance. But I'm sure it didn't mean much to some marxist writing leftist screeds in his school newspaper.

262 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:38am

torn down... no reagan

263 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:43am

tear down imaginary walls

264 harrylook  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:49am

re: #242 Bob in Breckenridge

I could be wrong but wasn' the uncle who "liberated Auschwitz" named Charlie?

265 MJBrutus  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:52am

That's right, tear down the walls between the barbarians and the civilized world. Let's all form a suicide pact!

266 yesandno  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:58am

Tearing downs walls.................all over the place..................

God, I am so embarrassed to be a old white female who only speaks English......

267 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:59am

SO what the fuck is his point for this speech?

268 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:03am

re: #251 Thanos


so let me get this straight.

Not being able to tie himself in with JFK and Kennedy he went for a place used by Hitler?

269 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:05am

He's not a happy man.

270 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:07am

walls flying all over the place, is he the hulk now?

271 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:09am

HOPE, TRUST, CHANGE

272 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:16am

re: #186 Charles

How in the world do you give a speech about the fall of the Berlin Wall ... and not even mention Ronald Reagan?

He's not American, he's a Democrat.

273 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:21am

Together.

Like the dozens of Euro countries fighting with us in Afganistan and Iraq.

You know, the troops you never hear about because it goes against the "unilateral" canard.

1.5 BILLION Christians.
1.5 BILLION Muslims.
14 MILLION Joos.

PLEASE LEAVE US OUT OF IT.

THERE ARE MORE BUDDHISTS, ETC IN THE WORLD.

TALK TO THEM,.

274 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:25am

Anything he says here will be totally meaningless and purposless because those people on the other side of the Brandenburg Gates are now free. He should have done this in South Korea at the border:

"Kim Jong IL: Tear down that wall!"

275 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:30am

What an embarrassment.

276 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:31am

OMG, he his ripping off Reagan's Tear down this wall speech! What a F-ing
twit.

277 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:31am

re: #267 Teacake!

SO what the fuck is his point for this speech?

Himself, of course

278 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:32am

quite the smack in the face to Israel

279 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:36am

fluff!

280 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:37am

re: #267 Teacake!

SO what the fuck is his point for this speech?

There is no point, he rarely has a point. Just drink the cool-aid and vote for the messiah.

281 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:45am

Kissing their ass big time. Panderer.

282 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:53am

Oh, the apartite walls?

283 lefty201  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:04am

I read the entire article on drudge and i just got to know one thing?

did he actually say anything with substance?

took me 5 mins to read the whole thing and I came away with a big rah rah speech.

284 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:13am

The TV perspective shown on big screens is totally misleading if you have a more global view. People are eating sausages while he speaks. Only the inner circle is clapping

285 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:18am

He's saying so much of nothing!

Talk is cheap.

Less Talk - More Action - Puh-lease!

How Presumptions of Obama!

286 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:21am

The Palis are going to use this wall speech for insane propoganda.

"What about the ISraeli wall?"

287 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:24am

re: #264 harrylook

I could be wrong but wasn' the uncle who "liberated Auschwitz" named Charlie?

Oh okay, I wasn't aware that was his name.

288 MJBrutus  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:24am

re: #279 NoSubmission

Yeah, but does he look Presidential?

289 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:25am

Ich bin ein, uhhhhh, errr, let me put it this way, ein Berliner!

290 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:26am

re: #234 Thanos

Here's a pic of the top, small but if you look close you can see the Odin's cross on the spear.

That's an Iron Cross, not an Odin's Cross. You can tell from how it flares outward on the ends.

291 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:30am
292 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:39am

rush said screw this and cut it off lol

293 Big Steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:44am

re: #270 trailortrash

walls flying all over the place, is he the hulk now?


and the walls on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.

294 Opinionated  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:47am

Listening to this speech the tingle down Chris Matthews' leg is turning to a torrent.

295 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:49am

re: #285 songbird

He's saying so much of nothing!

Talk is cheap.

Less Talk - More Action - Puh-lease!

How Presumptions of Obama!

Just words ... just words ...

296 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:51am

Hope!

297 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:54am

re: #258 Kenneth

He just said we must tear down the walls between Muslim & Jews. F*ck him if he thinks that means the security walls keeping terrorists our of Israel.

Bingo! He's playing direct to the Euros and the netroots, hoping to slip that by most Americans who won't catch or understand the significance.

298 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:03am

Truly no point being made in this speech.

299 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:17am

Giving a speech in Berlin isn't very green, especially for this blowhard.

300 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:19am
301 Iron Fist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:26am

re: #219 Angus Day,

He is the one he's been waiting for. He's totally bought into his Cult of Personality. He thinks he is a god.

302 Tumulus11  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:27am
' Now is the time ... '

'This is the moment ... '

'This is the moment ...'

. Plagiarizing Dr. King, now.

303 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:33am

Rush wants to see obama's citizen of the world passport.

304 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:35am

Remember this place.

I will build a round table, for all my knights.

And we will meet, and people will remember.

305 MJBrutus  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:36am

re: #297 Thanos

Exactly, the man is calling for a suicide pact!

306 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:42am

Oh, this is just wonderful. Now he's pretending that we need to fight against terrorists....as if nothing has ever been done in that arena.

307 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:42am

re: #290 Honorary Yooper

That's an Iron Cross, not an Odin's Cross. You can tell from how it flares outward on the ends.

Yes, you are right, sorry it's small and I do not have my glasses on.

308 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:46am

Ripping off RWR, tearing down walls which either don't exist or which thogocracies erect.

309 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:51am

All Obama has left to say is "And now I ask for your vote for President of the World!"

310 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:56am

no nukes

311 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:58am

He's asking for more German troops.

Deadly silence

312 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:59am

Ooo, they didn't buy that one.

313 yma o hyd  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:05am

re: #76 freedomplow

OBAMA Lures Massive German Crowd With Rock Bands, Brats & Beer

HERE's a video of a Raemonn rock concert to give you an idea of what kind of crowd you might expect today.

Ah - the crowd is having a good time, listening to German Pop Stars and all, drinking beer and generally ahving a party in the nice summer weather.
As far as at least 60% of the crowd are concerned, BO is an addition to the party, not the mainc rowd puller.

This same thing happened in Seattle, iirc, where these huge crowds where shown on the MSM reports - but only alter were we told that a rock concert had been organised at that venue before BO's speech.

Nothing new - and that crowd is certainly not an indicator for Obamania, much as his campaing would love us to think so!

314 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:05am

re: #292 trailortrash

rush said screw this and cut it off lol

I checked it out on CNN, MSNBC and FNC just to see how they're covering it. I'm taking a break from laundry to watch something far more edifying: The Beverly Hillbillies.

315 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:07am

thought disussing policy overseas was illegal?

316 Cygnus  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:22am

re: #14 Teacake!

All balls and no substance.

All waffle and no syrup.

317 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:26am

Obama's and this campaign are the biggest farce ever hoisted. He's a complete fraud.

318 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:27am

re: #311 KSK

*Snicker*

319 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:28am

I was right on the content.....

re: #12 jcm

Early release of contents of speech.

320 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:28am

I bet 90% of the Germans in his crowd never even saw the wall.

321 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:32am

Obama better cut back on his smoking or brighten his teeth. Kinda grungy looking.

322 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:40am

re: #187 KSK Um whom is he plagerizing and how?!
Sorry, can't hear the effin' broadcast.

323 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:44am

The Great Pretender.

324 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:45am

IF he didn't come there as a candidate isn't illegal then to use campaign money? Shouldn't he be using his own money in that case?

325 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:46am

You hear that, Iran? Stop it! Pretty please?

326 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:46am

No mention of John F. Kennedy, no mention of Ronald Reagan.

Obama's ego is out of control.

Now he's preaching nuclear freeze.

327 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:47am

This is stupid.

328 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:52am

That call for more German troops in Afganastan didn't go over very well did it?

329 Angus Day  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:52am

Oh my, "hate instead of hope"; I think haven't heard such utter BS from any politician, ever. This man is, well, just a brainless cypher. Which leads me to ask - who's behind the cypher.

330 christheprofessor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:53am

Dems go ballistic whenever a Republican plays the clip of JFK saying we need to lower taxes to help the economy and yet this loser goes over there and plagiarizes Ronald Reagan.

I'll be one million quatloos that we won't here on word of complaint from Dems or the media about it.

331 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:00am

World Citizenry translates to : "I want to be President of the World."

/ So will Europeans pay taxes for the "world" military that the US currently provides them?

332 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:02am

Cute ... the teleprompter told him to pause for applause ... he did ... pffffft

333 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:04am

Wow, he's said Afganistan more than the libs did for the last 7 years.

See how seamlessly they can change their tune and the MSM nor anyone else will call them on it?

All of a sudden Iraq is irrelavent.

334 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:07am

Isn't he doing what he said he wouldn"t - give a President speech?

No nuclear weapons - and two pieces of pie each - no more, no less.

335 Cygnus  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:12am

re: #243 Opinionated

He came "to serve man".

Boiled or fried? Half-baked?

336 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:17am

Free Unicorns for Everyone!

337 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:29am

The crowd is wholly disinterested in anything he has to say about terrorism. And, to his credit, he's trying to make an argument. But they clap if he talks about hunger or nuclear weapons. Europe has no interest, or belief, that terrorism is real.

338 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:32am

His eyes are giving him away.

339 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:36am

Ein Volk, Ein Barrack, Ein OBAMA!
Hussein? NEIN!

340 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:37am

re: #180 Wendya

Now, he's giving Berlin credit for the fall of the Berlin wall and the spread of democracy world wide!

Communism would have fallen anyway without RWR.

There would have been no terrorist attacks since 911 anyway without GWB.

/points of faith to the LLL faithful.

341 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:39am

Didn't Berlin get freed after the Cold War?

342 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:44am

eg"O"

343 Angus Day  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:50am

Falling pretty flat tho, doncha think?

344 Big Steve  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:51am

re: #314 MandyManners

Is Elly May on? If so, I'm leaving work to watch....

345 jcm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:52am

re: #336 Kenneth

Free Unicorns for Everyone!

Hmmm, BBQed unicorn!

346 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:53am

He'd be foolish enough to shitcan our nukes while letting the other guys keep theirs.

347 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:54am

When NUCLEAR weapons are outlawed, onlyoutlaws will have neuclear weapons !

348 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:55am
349 runrabbitrun  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:56am

Doesn't this require dual citizenship?

::wishing we could revoke Barry's U.S. citizenship::

350 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:58am

OK what's the Cold War mindset?
We didn't fare badly with that one

351 Tumulus11  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:01am

'This is the moment ...'

'Work with Russia?'

. Obama's oration is falling flat.

352 Peter Verkooijen  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:01am

re: #130 Opinionated

Anyone want to bet?
Does he complement Reagan for winning the Cold War?

He's trying to claim the mantle of Reagan. That has been one of the consistent talking points for the Obama campaign.

353 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:04am

Some old repetition... this is the moment...
blah blah,,
the wall, blah blah

354 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:04am

re: #284 KSK

The TV perspective shown on big screens is totally misleading if you have a more global view. People are eating sausages while he speaks. Only the inner circle is clapping

Heh. Obama's speech must be very enthralling then if people would rather eat than applaud.

And I'll bet Obama's so full of himself that he only sees the inner circle.

355 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:06am

re: #326 Charles

No mention of John F. Kennedy, no mention of Ronald Reagan.

Obama's ego is out of control.

Now he's preaching nuclear freeze.

I'm surprised the crowd's not cheering more. Of course, Obama's many years behind them on that. They don't care about the Freeze any more.

356 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:07am

Now he's accusing America of almost destroying the world with Nuclear weapons! He's trying to make us equal to the Soviet Union when it comes to threats to freedom.


And this?
We must reject the cold war mindset of the past.

357 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:13am

re: #348 ploome hineni

....how many of these people understand English enough to realize what he is saying

beyond the punch line?

7

358 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:18am

"Wealth that opens markets has created."

359 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:23am

re: #313 yma o hyd


Now if McCain, or Bush were to do / have done this media ploy....it would have been a front page story.

360 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:23am

Why is he in Germany making a speech as if he is the President of the United States?

361 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:34am

All these "partnerships" already exist.

Relations with European nations are good.

362 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:39am

He could describe his latest bowel movement and they would cheer him. It's the charisma.

363 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:40am

"we must seek to work with Russia when we can"

yes, but what will you do when you can't work with Russia? that's the more important question.

364 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:41am

Hello Lefty lurkers... please tell us what the point was in this speech.


"all words, all speeches..."

365 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:42am

any crying or fainting yet?

366 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:43am

he's losing the kos vote by wanting iran to end nuke program

367 affenkopf  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:44am

The anti capitalist rhetoric starts now, I wonder why it took him so long.

368 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:50am

#186 Charles


Had he mentioned Reagan the dude would have garnered 10% of McCain's vote right then!

369 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:51am

Can we say ****muffin here Charles? If not i recant the word.

370 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:52am

re: #349 runrabbitrun

Doesn't this require dual citizenship?

::wishing we could revoke Barry's U.S. citizenship::

see my #66

371 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:58am

Redisribution of the worlds wealth now

372 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:07am

re: #326 Charles

No mention of John F. Kennedy, no mention of Ronald Reagan.

Obama's ego is out of control.

Now he's preaching nuclear freeze.

Nuclear freeze is exactly why he's not mentioning either. Both of them greatly strengthened our strategic nuclear offensive capabilities.

373 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:07am

Together we must......

GERMANS DON'T VOTE IN US ELECTIONS.

374 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:10am

Uh oh the socialist part just came out.

375 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:11am

re: #360 JohnnyReb

Why is he in Germany making a speech as if he is the President of the United States?

because he beleives he is the Pres of the US

376 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:15am

I thought he wanted out of Iraq...what a twit.

377 ergo sum  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:21am

re: #276 Bubblehead II

OMG, he his ripping off Reagan's Tear down this wall speech! What a F-ing
twit.

Blood shot out of my eyes! Twit is quite polite as far as I am concerned. What an ASShat!

Dammit, I am being forced to vote for McCain.

378 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:21am
How in the world do you give a speech about the fall of the Berlin Wall ... and not even mention Ronald Reagan?

All of my moonbatty friends will tell you that Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of the Berlin Wall....In fact, most of them will tell you that Reagan's saber rattling and Star Wars only prolonged the situation.

Gorbachev was the real hero who tore down the Iron Curtain, no thanks to Ronald Reagan.

And many stupid Europeans feel the same way.

379 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:26am

"support the lebanese" who cheer and throw parties for murderous child killers!

380 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:28am

hahahaha "O-Ba-Ma"

381 mossley  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:37am

Just when I think his arrogance couldn't surprise me any more, Obama proves me wrong.

382 WrathofG-d  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:39am
383 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:40am

oh brother!

he's the bringer of DOOM!

384 Crash72  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:40am

re: #255 trailortrash

wall

/drink

LOL!

385 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:44am

In other words, all carrot, throw away the stick.

386 harrylook  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:46am

Is it me, or is he saying that we can only demand Iran abandon nukes if America and everyone else does as well? Seems like he's making that subtile policy point.

387 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:48am

"we must stand with the Europeans to demand the Iranians give up they're nuclear ambitions"

Been there, done that, now what?

388 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:52am

AH he is going to save the planet. Oh goodie.

389 Angus Day  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:01am

uh oh, here it comes, reducing the oceans

390 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:01am

global warmmongering now

391 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:09am

Here comes the global warming crap.

Hey asshat, it's carbon dioxide, not carbon.

392 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:12am

moment my ASS!

393 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:12am

carbon stuff.. first time I see Germans clapping

394 EC Marm  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:14am

Sorry I can't listen to this bullshit any longer. 'When the oceans rise...'

395 bababooey32  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:15am

re: #186 Charles

How in the world do you give a speech about the fall of the Berlin Wall ... and not even mention Ronald Reagan?

Oh, he mentioned him:

I know that I don't look like the Americans who've previously spoken in this great city.

Translate: " Look at me ,I'm black!"

But I thought Obama TRANSCENDED race?!?!?

396 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:15am

He just balme the USA for all polution

397 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:19am

"finally bring this war to a close"

/cue the chanting

398 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:25am

Sheesh!
Somebody wake up McCain and tell him to finish off this ridiculous poseur. What will it take to get McSnooze going? Caffeine? Viagra? Surely the RNC has enough dough to pay for a few months worth anyway.

399 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:25am

HOPE!

400 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:26am

Carbon!

401 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:26am

re: #373 Ben Hur

Together we must......

GERMANS DON'T VOTE IN US ELECTIONS.


Heh. Neither do Mexicans, Mein Herr...

402 harrylook  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:28am

Waht about all teh carbon your campaign spewed on this trip, you hypocrite?

403 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:31am

Oh great.... if the USA elects Obama, there will be no more storms, no more famine and the oceans will lower.

404 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:33am

I watched it for a second. Where's my bong? I'm starting early. Just in case.

405 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:36am
406 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:36am

has he told them how much they can eat yet?

407 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:36am

Whenever I think of him talking about ocean's rising, I always think of the tide.

Can the Obamessiah stop the ocean tides?

408 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:48am

"This is the moment"

409 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:57am

we need to drop fluffy bunnies everywhere

410 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:01am

re: #387 Kenneth

"we must stand with the Europeans to demand the Iranians give up they're nuclear ambitions"

Been there, done that, now what?

He knows the majority of people don't know anything beyond the soudbites they are spoonfed.

Like my point above about this canard that the US has been acting "unilaterally."

411 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:10am

I think he's meaner than his wife.

412 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:14am

Give everyone a puppy

413 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:15am

He wants to win hearts and minds. just grab em by the balls barry.

414 J.S.  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:16am

re: #238 jcm

No. According to a Salon.com article -- "President Kennedy was given a rousing reception by the people of West Berlin during his visit in 1963, when he held his famous "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech in front of the town hall in Berlin's Schöneberg district -- which lies several miles from the Brandenburg Gate. "

415 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:18am

Ah yes, thank you Germany for providing a nice backdrop/prop for an American presidential candidate to show that he truly doesn't have much sense of history.

At least here in Germany Obama was more interactive with the crowd than he was in Afghanistan, where he blew off US troops serving in the war that the leftists generally admit as being somewhat tangentially related to US national security.

416 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:20am

I know what I'm going to do with this momen...possibly have sex with my lovely wife!

417 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:24am
418 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:25am

Only 47 of the people in the crowd are actually Germans. The rest are Obama's foreign policy advisers.

419 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:29am

"0 years ago the planes didn't drop bombs, they dropped candy"

They DROPPED candy because days before they DROPPED BOMBS and WE WON !

420 FXArtist  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:30am

The Chutzpah.

421 Stinky Beaumont  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:42am

This is crap.

422 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:49am

STOP SHOUTING!

423 cblesz  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:53am

re: #398 Shiplord Kirel

Sheesh!
Somebody wake up McCain and tell him to finish off this ridiculous poseur. What will it take to get McSnooze going? Caffeine? Viagra? Surely the RNC has enough dough to pay for a few months worth anyway.

Agree...WAKE MCCAIN AND THE RNC UP, PLEASE!

424 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:58am

Platitudes, Platitudes!

Now are we going to face a voter fraud issue with Germans coming over to vote. God knows we have enough Mexicans and dead people voting in my state!

425 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:00am

It's like he took that 1980's Genesis video "Land of Confusion" and made it a speech.

426 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:00am

re: #418 Dirk Diggler

"foreign policy"

427 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:04am

will we acknowledge this guy is clueless! yes we will

428 JohnnyReb  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:05am

Wait a minute, the planes brought coal? How the heck did we let that happen? Come on coal and global warming don't mix.

429 Granitebill  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:06am

As if reading your comments about his...sorry, "His" comments aren't already making me ill....

I had to go ready what the dailykooks are saying...
ugggg...[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

I quit out of it when i read, " ...they better have good protection for our barack..."

-granite

430 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:07am

Death to clingers!

431 Peter Verkooijen  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:10am

re: #337 Eric Cartman's Conscience

... Europe has no interest, or belief, that terrorism is real.

Obama hasn't either. Empty rhetoric.

432 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:11am

He actually just used the words " never again" to talk about Darfur in Berlin! Does this moron know what "Never Again" is from?

433 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:15am

He's hitting all the anti-American talking points.

434 sabra412  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:22am

"reduce the carbon we send into the atmosphere"

Keeping your 757 parked would be a good start...

435 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:23am

re: #301 Iron Fist

He is the one he's been waiting for. He's totally bought into his Cult of Personality. He thinks he is a god.

Thinks nothing. He knows it with the way he has been treated by the press and others around him.

/"Ray, if someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!"

436 rlevitin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:24am

"Blogger in Iran"?

Does he mean Ahmadinejad?

437 MJBrutus  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:26am

re: #398 Shiplord Kirel

Where's Bob dole when you need him? Surely he could spare a few blue tabs for the good of the country!

438 empills  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:29am

did he just say we torture people? wtf?

439 Pyrocles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:29am

But Bush landed on an aircraft carrier! That's so inapprorpiate! He must be crucified! -Lefties

re: #359 WrathofG-d

Now if McCain, or Bush were to do / have done this media ploy....it would have been a front page story.

440 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:31am

He's not the Messiah.

He Is G-D.

441 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:35am

Uh oh!
Stinky's here!
Sic him, Stinky!

442 Catttt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:37am

Ich will

I want

I want you to trust me
I want you to believe me
I want to feel your eyes
I want to control every heartbeat

I want to hear your voices
I want to disturb the peace
I want you to see me well
I want you to understand me

I want your fantasy
I want your energy
I want to see your hands
I want to go down in applause

Do you see me?
Do you understand me?
Do you feel me?
Do you hear me?
Can you hear me?
(We hear you)
Can you see me?
(We see you)
Can you feel me?
(We feel you)
I don't understand you

I want

We want you to trust us
We want you to believe everything from us
We want to see your hands
We want to go down in applause - yeah

Can you hear me?
(We hear you)
Can you see me?
(We see you)
Can you feel me?
(We feel you)
I don't understand you

Can you hear us?
(We hear you)
Can you see us?
(We see you)
Can you feel us?
(We feel you)
We don't understand you

I want

443 runrabbitrun  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:39am

re: #370 sattv4u2

see my #66

yeeeps!

I just came in from work for lunch.... put on Rush, so I MIGHT be able to digest it (though LGF is my sure-fire cure for Obamessiah overload)

444 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:46am

here it comees..

AMERICA SUCKS@

445 sattv4u2  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:52am

re: #428 JohnnyReb

Wait a minute, the planes brought coal? How the heck did we let that happen? Come on coal and global warming don't mix.

I'll bet it hurt when the coal landed on buildings with people in it

446 researchok  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:52am

In Obamaland, there have been no terror attacks in Israel.

Not a word about what Israelis are subjected to on a regular basis.

Not one word.

447 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:53am

LOL liberty.

448 nigella  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:53am

unfortunately it's way to early to start drinking, but I may have to make an exception.Is he running for President of the United States or Emperor of the World.I think I'm going to be sick.........

449 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:57am

WWII only ended after the Germans decided to switch sides....

450 mfarmer1  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:58am

"Never again in Darfur" Is this guy for real?

451 CIA Reject  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:09am

re: #137 jcm

He just dismissed the entire Cold War.

Yet another reason to say "F*ck Him!". Brave Americans fought and died in that war.

452 Angus Day  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:11am

People of the world.....vote for MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

whaddya mean, you can't vote for me? what am I doing here then?

453 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:13am

Lots of bold promises for someone who hasn't accomplished a [expletive deleted] thing in his life.

/FREE UNICORNS FOR EVERYONE!

454 lefty201  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:15am

I just can't believe what i am reading.

anyone wanna take a 10 dollar bet this guy is the anti-christ?

455 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:16am

Don't apologize for me Barry you asshole!

456 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:21am

My country is not the best at times?

Screw you, Obama!

457 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:23am

re: #446 researchok

Is Obamaland like the creation museum?

458 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:24am

He should skip politics and start his own church..

459 Thanos  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:24am

Hope and change are ironic tropes for the left since except for the presidency, they are the establishment.

/good conservatives will be down for "sticking it to THE MAN", since he looks like Harry Reid

460 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:24am

Hopeful world!

461 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:29am

re: #360 JohnnyReb

Why is he in Germany making a speech as if he is the President of the United States?

Didn't you hear, he's already been anoited President by the MSM, no need for a silly election where McCain might actually win.

462 WitchDoctor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:37am

re: #243 Opinionated

Okay, that was frickin' funny. A thousand updings for you sir!

463 Opinionated  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:39am

Criticizing the US on foreign soil.

Prick.

464 Silhouette  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:40am

re: #379 rlevitin

"support the lebanese"

Against whom? The Syrians who invade, occupy, and control them? Why do I doubt that?

465 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:44am

not one positive thing to say.

466 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:44am

Not a single word of substance.

467 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:48am

here comes the America bashing..

"I know how much I love America"

yeah, this much "..."

468 eff plus  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:48am

I honestly can’t tell what he’s talking about. His speech sounds like a patchwork of random sentences. It’s like the Mad Libs of political speeches.

469 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:57am

WILL YOU BOMB THE SUDANESE REGIME AND THE JANJIWEED?!?!?

THAT IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.

ASIDE FROM HOLLYWOOD RIBBONS AND EFFEN SPEECHES.

470 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:47:59am

He

is

boring

I need a coffee

471 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:01am

re: #463 Opinionated

more like chicken

472 ergo sum  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:10am

re: #430 NoSubmission

Death to clingers!


Hey, I continue to bitterly cling to FRED!...:D

OMG we are doooomed I tell you, DOOOOMED!

473 runrabbitrun  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:20am

re: #377 ergo sum

Blood shot out of my eyes! Twit is quite polite as far as I am concerned. What an ASShat!

Dammit, I am being forced to vote for McCain.

That's why publicizing this is so vital - there will be quite a few indies who will be fed up to here with this cr@p....

474 formercorpsman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:22am

I can't listen while at work, perhaps it is for the best.

This is surreal.

475 Jetpilot1101  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:22am

I'm not a citizen of Berlin.

476 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:25am

Again copying Kennedy

477 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:25am

Every point of view is expressed in our public squares ... INCLUDING Reverend Wright's.

478 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:32am

WE ARE WHAT WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR

479 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:35am

America bashing now, But he does love it. This JO is starting to make me sick. BTW, Barry, your daddy left these shores

480 Wendya  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:39am

What drew your father to American shores was a FREE education, you moron! And did he apply American ideals when he went back to Kenya? Hell no.

481 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:44am

HOPE

482 MJBrutus  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:44am

re: #432 Nevergiveup

Good point. Your question of course is rhetorical, because we all know that he has no friggin' clue.

483 J.S.  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:45am

Obama is betting on "We all Hate Amerikkka" fellows from around the world. and draw them all together.

484 sabra412  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:46am

This is his world, and he is world leader pretend

485 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:48am

Obama's speech in a nutshell: "America sucks, but if you vote for me I'll fix it and save the world. Hope!"

486 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:51am

I am so pissed I am turning off CNN in Africa and will follow the speech here. The Messiah Make the asshat President of The Whole Fucking World.

487 Teacake!  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:54am

Green.... right! After he and the entourage and media leave town, all the street cleaners and maids and janitorial type people are going to have a huge mess to clean up after them. Not very green of them to leave so much waste behind.

488 wiffersnapper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:57am

finally, it's over

489 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:00am

They love it, but I'm sure they wouldn't love one of their German leaders going around the world and highlighting shortcomings.

490 NoSubmission  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:01am

the thought of this bozo as commander in chief scares the crap out of me.

491 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:03am

White guilt plays pretty well in Germany for some reason.

492 empills  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:12am

elvis has left the building

493 Opinionated  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:12am

I'm shaking my head in disbelief.

I can't believe a candidate for President of the US is making this speech.

494 eagleheart  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:13am

From SPIEGEL ONLINE International

++ Visit to US Military Bases Cancelled ++

1:42 p.m.: SPIEGEL ONLINE has learned that Obama has cancelled a planned short visit to the Rammstein and Landstuhl US military bases in the southwest German state of Rhineland-Palatinate. The visits were planned for Friday. "Barack Obama will not be coming to us," a spokesperson for the US military hospital in Landstuhl announced. "I don't know why." Shortly before the same spokeswoman had announced a planned visit by Obama.
Per BO:
This is not a political tour but what is it then?

495 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:14am

re: #399 Charles

HOPE!

CHANGE.... the channel that is... Obama's giving me a headache. Empty rhetoric and he makes Bill Clinton downright meek in comparison. Heck, Clinton could at least talk about a record of achievement before taking office. Obama - only hope and change.

496 trailortrash  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:18am

wow whata nonspeech

497 KSK  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:20am

All that was missing was that he'd been to the mountain top

498 jorline  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:21am

Poeple of the world...I'm your leader.

499 Kenneth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:21am

"values which drew my father to her shores"

yeah, but when he got punished with a baby, he turned and split pretty damn fast, didn't he Obama?

500 Angus Day  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:28am

Thank you Berlin, y'all been a wunnerful audience, thank you verrah much, ah hu hu

501 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:29am

I've disliked Obama before, and I'm hating him now.

What is his point? Who is he representing himself as? This speech is unprecedented in history and displays his overconfidence - his cockyness. He really believes he's already won!

502 cblesz  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:35am

re: #456 Wendya

My country is not the best at times?

Screw you, Obama!


Did he actually say that? Sounds familiar...hmmmm like his wife?

503 ergo sum  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:35am

re: #453 Killian Bundy

Lots of bold promises for someone who hasn't accomplished a [expletive deleted] thing in his life.

/FREE UNICORNS FOR EVERYONE!


I would like to take one of those Unicorns and shove it up his arrogant arse!

504 Peacekeeper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:41am

I thought it was bad when Americans went to Europe and spoke to them in English?

505 Granitebill  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:41am

re: #463 Opinionated


Remind you of another ex-president..?
both are a POS

506 Charles  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:47am

The crowd did NOT go nuts.

507 Peter Verkooijen  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:50am