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Overnight Open Thread

Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:05:54 pm PDT

A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees.

William Blake

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1 noshariaincanada  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:06:22pm

g'nite all

2 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:08:04pm

Does anyone have a good joke?

3 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:08:51pm

Look at this graph.

[Link: bp1.blogger.com...]

A plot with a regression line of polls for the last 60 days.

Not looking good for Obama.

The trip hasn't helped.

4 drmark  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:09:05pm

How many lawyer jokes are there?

5 Timbre  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:09:33pm

The Rush Snakes and Arrows Tour is over tonight in Indianapolis. Thanks guys for a great show!

6 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:09:43pm

re: #4 drmark

As many as there are lawyers?

7 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:10:05pm
8 drmark  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:10:08pm

One: The rest of them are true!

9 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:10:22pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Probably not. Most of my faves are either in poor taste, or very, very old.

10 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:10:24pm

re: #3 karmic_inquisitor

Look at this graph.

[Link: bp1.blogger.com...]

A plot with a regression line of polls for the last 60 days.

Not looking good for Obama.

The trip hasn't helped.

Oh, another polling geek -- I can't believe it. Great stuff, KI. Where did you get it? What polling data is included?

11 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:10:56pm

Okay. My 15 yr old son told me this one.

How many blondes does it takes to change a light bulb?

12 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:11:28pm

Why do medical students prefer doing experiments on lawyers than on white mice?

3 reasons:

1) white mice are cute.

2) lawyers are in greater supply.

3) there are some things that you can't pay a mouse to do.

13 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:11:32pm

re: #11 wolfie

Okay. My 15 yr old son told me this one.

How many blondes does it takes to change a light bulb?

Grrrrr, how many?

14 Timbre  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:11:39pm

re: #11 wolfie

Inconceivable!

15 drmark  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:11:58pm

How many?re: #12 karmic_inquisitor

See its true!

16 slokat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:11:59pm
A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees.

..yeah, but if it fell on they'd both "feel" the impact of the same tree.

17 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:12:11pm
A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees.

And Obama can't see the forest for the trees.

18 macintush  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:12:25pm

Hi!

Bye!

19 Racer X  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:12:31pm

re: #11 wolfie

15 year old boys know nothing of blondes.

20 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:12:35pm

re: #10 hermeneutics

Oh, another polling geek -- I can't believe it. Great stuff, KI. Where did you get it? What polling data is included?

[Link: www.fivethirtyeight.com...]

The guy is an Obama supporter but a statistician who plays it straight.

The numbers are all eroding for him.

21 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:12:43pm

re: #14 Timbre

You keep using that word...

22 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:12:50pm

None.

They can always get a guy to do it for them.

23 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:12:56pm

re: #19 Racer X

15 year old boys know nothing of blondes.

Some 15 year old boys are blonde themselves.

24 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:13:04pm

From the side-bar that I can see:

Police Raid on Muslim Charity

From the Australian.

Probably already noted, but I think it's interesting.

25 rain of lead  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:13:14pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Does anyone have a good joke?

what is the difference between erotic and kinky?

erotic is when you use a feather...
kinky is when you use the whole chicken.

26 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:13:16pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Does anyone have a good joke?

Two bowling teams, one of all blondes and one of all brunettes, charter a double-decker bus for a weekend trip.

The brunette team rode on the bottom of the bus, and the blonde team rode on the top level.

The brunette team down below really whooped it up, having a great time, when one of them realized she hadn't heard anything from the blondes upstairs.

She decided to go up and investigate.

When the brunette reached the top, she found all the blondes in fear, staring straight ahead at the road, clutching the seats in front of them with white knuckles.

the brunette asked, "What the heck's going on up here? We're having a great time downstairs!"

One of the blondes looked up at her, swallowed hard and whispered...

"YEAH, BUT YOU'VE GOT A DRIVER!"

27 Thor-Zone  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:13:22pm

The night is young....

28 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:13:49pm

Yay! An overnight thread of open goodness! Welcome new arrivals and gamey-buttocked trolls!

29 Thor-Zone  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:13:56pm

Thank God the Tiki Bar is open!
/john hiatt mode off

30 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:13:58pm

re: #5 Timbre

The Rush Snakes and Arrows Tour is over tonight in Indianapolis. Thanks guys for a great show!

Great show, indeed. Saw them in Concord, CA just a few weeks ago. Then just saw The Police at the same venue. Rush played for 2 1/2 hours (not including intermission), and they rocked as hard as they ever have. I swear Geddy's voice is actually getting better with age. The Police played 90 minuted with no intermission. They're playing was decent, but their engineers are deaf. Just a wall of distorted noise.

31 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:14:29pm

re: #20 karmic_inquisitor

Oh, someone on LGF a few days ago showed me that site. I love it. It is a good counterbalance to the Hedgehog Report [Link: www.davidwissing.com...]

32 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:14:36pm

re: #19 Racer X

But they wish they did!

33 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:14:39pm

re: #10 hermeneutics

BTW - the numbers are for 6 months not 60 days as I said earlier.

34 lori lane  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:14:54pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

A teacher in Elmira, New York, who is an Obama supporter, asked her 4th grade class,"How many of you are Obama fans?"

Not really knowing what an Obama fan is, but wanting to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands, except for Little Johnny.

The teacher asked Little Johnny why he decided to be different?

Little Johnny said, "Because I'm not an Obama fan."

The teacher asked, "Why aren't you an Obama fan?"

Johnny said, "Because I'm a Conservative ."

The teacher asked him why he's a Conservative .

Little Johnny answered, " Well, my Mom's a Conservative and my Dad's a Conservative, so I'm a Conservative."

Annoyed by this answer, the teacher asked, "If your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, what would that make you?"

With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, "That would make me an Obama fan."

35 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:15:16pm

Lord knows I am a fool, and I see a naked Peruvian broad using her flag as a saddle!

It's okay, the picture is safe for work.

36 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:15:28pm

how's life, all?

37 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:15:34pm

re: #5 Timbre

The Rush Snakes and Arrows Tour is over tonight in Indianapolis. Thanks guys for a great show!

Did you go?

38 Racer X  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:15:42pm
39 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:16:16pm

re: #31 hermeneutics

Oh, someone on LGF a few days ago showed me that site. I love it. It is a good counterbalance to the Hedgehog Report [Link: www.davidwissing.com...]

Thanks for the link. i will check that one out,

Rasmussen started linking to 538 so i started looking. The guy does a great job. He does stats for baseball for a living.

40 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:16:28pm

re: #33 karmic_inquisitor

BTW - the numbers are for 6 months not 60 days as I said earlier.

What do you think of the new Quinnipiac polls (hope I spelled this correctly) of swing states?

41 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:16:47pm

re: #5 Timbre

The Rush Snakes and Arrows Tour is over tonight in Indianapolis. Thanks guys for a great show!

Are they Lizards? Seriously?

42 nigella  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:17:03pm

Hi all, my take on the obamapolooza tour is that it's a bust.I was reading the live "messiah" speech earlier on LGF, and I think it was a loser. Of course I had to start early on my drinking because it was so infuriating, but that of course couldn't possibly have clouded my judgment....hiccup... Just kidding. When the" Sermon on the Mount" was happening I was babysitting my two Grandchildren. Doesn't mean I didn't want to drink, but I had to maintain some sort of responsibility.

43 Timbre  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:17:11pm

re: #30 Lizard by the Bay

The thing that scares me about Rush is that they are such professionals and perfectionists, I'm thinking they may hang it up sooner than later. But I respect them for that and, that's why we have CDs and DVDs!

44 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:17:11pm

re: #34 lori lane

Funny, and sad-but-true..

45 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:17:13pm

Good evening all y'all - how's everyone doing tonight?

46 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:17:48pm

re: #45 realwest

Hey now. Whats up daddy o.

47 ggt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:17:48pm

evening -- for the hatchlings --


This is officially the Dead Thread. Unless Charles posts again.

48 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:18:04pm

Great, another "Open Thread" designed to bash us Closed Thread Proponenists!

/s

49 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:18:20pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

OK...one day on an Indian Reservation somewhere in the Southwest, a young man approaches his father.

"Dad.." he asks "How are our names chosen?"

"Well, my son, it is tradition in our clan to be named after the first thing the mother sees after giving birth. My father was born during the twilight hours, hence the name Red Cloud. I was born not too far from the hunting ground, hence the name Running Deer"

After a thoughtful pause, the father continues "Why do you ask this, Two Dogs Fucking?"

50 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:18:29pm

re: #45 realwest

Good evening all y'all - how's everyone doing tonight?

REAL! Quite fine ... and you?

51 Timbre  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:18:47pm

re: #37 baxtrice

Went to the Dallas show--both times! Wonderful!

52 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:18:50pm

Howdy, R-Dubs.

53 Archimedes  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:18:53pm

99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.

54 Racer X  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:18:55pm

Hiya RW!

Hows it goin?

55 ggt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:18:55pm

realwest is here !

RW you missed the hatchlings.

how ya' doin'?

56 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:19:18pm

re: #34 lori lane

See if you can spot Little Johnny.

57 jaunte  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:19:30pm

Hi realwest, how are you?

58 ggt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:19:41pm

RW --your toofers feeling better?

59 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:19:44pm

re: #36 cliffster

how's life, all?

It beats the alternative.

60 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:20:03pm

re: #49 Fenway_Nation

OK...one day on an Indian Reservation somewhere in the Southwest, a young man approaches his father.

"Dad.." he asks "How are our names chosen?"

"Well, my son, it is tradition in our clan to be named after the first thing the mother sees after giving birth. My father was born during the twilight hours, hence the name Red Cloud. I was born not too far from the hunting ground, hence the name Running Deer"

After a thoughtful pause, the father continues "Why do you ask this, Two Dogs Fucking?"

Love it!

61 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:20:05pm

re: #26 Ozark Mountain Daredevil ROTFLMAO! Good one!

62 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:20:11pm

re: #45 realwest

Good evening all y'all - how's everyone doing tonight?

Newbie here realwest, how are you feeling? Been reading about your situation for quite awhile.

63 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:20:31pm

re: #51 Timbre

Went to the Dallas show--both times! Wonderful!

Me too -- Awesome. 3/12 hours of goodness. I'm wondering if there's another album on the way after the S&A tour?

64 nigella  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:20:32pm

My God Mandy if you were a 5 year old boy I would think I just saw you bottom left.....

65 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:20:38pm

re: #35 Wyatt Earp

Oh...would that I were a Peruvian flag.

66 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:20:45pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Not tonight... but there's a bad one traipsing around Europe, promising that he'll whip the pillaging torturers from the US into shape when he's elected.
Dammit, I am really sick of this.

67 pegcity  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:21:01pm

re: #20 karmic_inquisitor

Obama is going to go down in flames in november

68 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:21:06pm

re: #45 realwest

Good evening all y'all - how's everyone doing tonight?

Life is good - I'm hanging out in Texas and flipping between news channels and Golf Network. I'm sick of LPGA beating up on Michelle Wie, and I'm sick of news channels giving Obama a hand, er, job, er, giving him a hand.

69 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:21:10pm

re: #46 Mich-again
Hey Mich! This Daddy-O is in the middle of finishing his meds for the night to try to get at least 6-7 hours of sleep tonight! LOL!
What are you up to?

70 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:21:15pm

re: #64 nigella

My God Mandy if you were a 5 year old boy I would think I just saw you bottom left.....

HA!

71 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:21:28pm

re: #67 pegcity

Obama is going to go down in flames in november

Pray tell ... why are you so confident?

72 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:21:38pm

I've seen this a dozen times but its still funny.

The Worst Woman Driver EVER.

73 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:22:13pm

re: #67 pegcity

Obama is going to go down in flames in november

Quite appropriate after his speech ripping the USA in GERMANY!

74 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:22:29pm

re: #50 hermeneutics
Hey hermy! I'm doing ok, still sore from tooth, and very tired but otherwise ok, how's by you?

75 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:22:32pm

re: #59 MandyManners

It beats the alternative.

My Dad used to say that.

76 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:22:36pm

re: #43 Timbre

The thing that scares me about Rush is that they are such professionals and perfectionists, I'm thinking they may hang it up sooner than later. But I respect them for that and, that's why we have CDs and DVDs!

I disagree. If they were going to break up, it would have been after Neil's personal tragedies. When I heard Vapor Trails I almost wished they would break up. But then they proved to everyone that they still know how to record music just for fun (Feedback), do tours just for fun (R30), and make a really great album still (Snakes & Arrows). If anything, they're just getting their stride back. Alex's playing has never been tighter. Neil is as perfect as ever. Geddy is still a bass player without equal.

77 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:22:41pm

re: #67 pegcity

Obama is going to go down in flames in november

Wish I had your optimism, everyone I meet seems to be imbued with a zombie like devotion to "O-bam-aaaa..."

78 lori lane  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:23:06pm

re: #56 MandyManners

LOL!
Johnny stands in the corner after the class photo is taken.

79 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:23:13pm

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

Gives new meaning to "Don't Tread On Me."

80 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:23:13pm

re: #52 Cartman Hey my friend, how are you doing this evening?

81 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:23:30pm

re: #69 realwest

What are you up to?

Watchin ESPN, hanging out here, having a brew, Same as it ever was.

82 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:23:51pm

re: #72 Mich-again

I'm afraid to click, and I'm compulsive about link clicking.

83 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:23:56pm

re: #54 Racer X Hello my friend, good to see ya out here! What's going on?

84 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:24:03pm

re: #74 realwest

Hey hermy! I'm doing ok, still sore from tooth, and very tired but otherwise ok, how's by you?

I'm on one of those detoxing regimens. HATE IT. I drink, only, lemon juice with maple syrup ... for TEN DAYS. Today was day three. Only six more to go.

I've found, after battling the big C, that periodic detoxing/fasting is good for the body.

85 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:24:16pm

re: #59 MandyManners

How do you know?

86 Timbre  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:24:17pm

re: #63 baxtrice

Me too -- Awesome. 3/12 hours of goodness. I'm wondering if there's another album on the way after the S&A tour?

Geddy said in an interview that album money is not nearly as good as it was years ago. Touring is the main business. But I do think they'll do a studio session after a 2-3 year break.

87 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:24:21pm

re: #76 Lizard by the Bay

I disagree. If they were going to break up, it would have been after Neil's personal tragedies. When I heard Vapor Trails I almost wished they would break up. But then they proved to everyone that they still know how to record music just for fun (Feedback), do tours just for fun (R30), and make a really great album still (Snakes & Arrows). If anything, they're just getting their stride back. Alex's playing has never been tighter. Neil is as perfect as ever. Geddy is still a bass player without equal.

There's some good stuff on Vapor Trails..*lips quiver* I actually like that album. (Yes I know it's not their best..):)

88 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:24:31pm

Savage is saying Obambi cancelled his visit to see out wounded soldiers.

89 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:24:38pm

re: #75 Cartman

So did mine. Until November last year.

Somehow, it's still funny.

90 ggt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:24:54pm

re: #72 Mich-again

That's what happens when you drive you don't know how to drive a stick shift.

91 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:24:58pm

re: #80 realwest

OK, R-Dubs. My water heater and my washer both went to appliance heaven in a 24 hour span, but other than that things are pretty good.

92 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:25:03pm

re: #55 ggt Hey ggt! I may have missed 'em coming in the door, but I'll catch up with 'em sooner or later - sooner if they're trolls or mobys!
How are you tonight?

93 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:25:11pm

re: #40 hermeneutics

What do you think of the new Quinnipiac polls (hope I spelled this correctly) of swing states?

Interesting to say the least.

Quinnipac does well in the 538 pollster ratings -

[Link: www.fivethirtyeight.com...]

I am starting to think that the "likely voter model skew" for this year that pollsters adopted overestimate Obama's demographic (historically unreliable young voters). They have based the skew on party id, but the older voters who left "Republican" have gone to independent and are very skeptical (and more likely to vote).

I also think that the skew should be different for different regions.

If Obama gets behind McCain by 7 points nationally, his followers will bail. The party will be over and they will concentrate on other stuff (like buying gas). After that he won't recover. JMO.

94 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:25:30pm

re: #82 Dianna

No one gets hurt. Its funny kinda.

95 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:25:30pm

re: #88 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Savage is saying Obambi cancelled his visit to see out wounded soldiers.

OUR- PIMF, sorry.

96 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:25:35pm

re: #84 hermeneutics

That seems like something that would apply to all of us. Not that all of us could do it, but...

97 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:25:51pm

re: #86 Timbre

Geddy said in an interview that album money is not nearly as good as it was years ago. Touring is the main business. But I do think they'll do a studio session after a 2-3 year break.

Ahhh, that's cool, as long as they keep coming back to Dallas, I don't care if they are in the studio or not. I just want to be able to hear them play some more. :)

98 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:26:02pm

re: #87 baxtrice

Ghost Rider, One Little Victory, Earthshine. These three songs are good (not great). The rest of the album is utterly forgettable IMHO.

99 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:26:10pm

re: #62 Ozark Mountain Daredevil You've been reading about my situation for quite a while? And you're a newbie?
Son, y'all gotta get out more! LOL!

100 nigella  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:26:11pm

baxtrice, if this makes you feel any better my"older" sister, a staunch Democrat for 30 years and her dim-wit friend have told me after years of blasting my Conservative beliefs, that it will be a cold day in hell before they will vote for Obama. They were Hillary fans and are livid he treated her so badly. Take it for what it's worth.

101 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:26:25pm

re: #88 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I think it was Newsbusters who had it originally, but yes, he blew off our wounded.

102 Archimedes  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:26:41pm

re: #72 Mich-again

Maybe the told her to roll it in upside down to make sure there is room for the other cars.

Bloody hilarious.

103 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:26:47pm

re: #67 pegcity

Obama is going to go down in flames in november

Today may have marked the beginning of the end.

That speech was stupid and uninspired. Yet the press swooned. Voters are starting to sense that they are being played for fools.

104 ggt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:26:52pm

re: #92 realwest

hangin' in there rw, thanks for asking.

105 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:26:58pm

re: #89 Dianna

My Pop had all kinds of little endearing sayings. Sure do miss him.

106 jaunte  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:26:59pm

re: #88 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Here's what his campaign said: "The senator decided out of respect for these servicemen and women that it would be inappropriate to make a stop to visit troops at a U.S. military facility as part of a trip funded by the campaign."
[Link: www.politico.com...]

107 Timbre  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:27:22pm

re: #76 Lizard by the Bay

I kind of agree with you. But what I meant was they won't be playing at 60+ if they can't keep up their standards. And I have no idea what kind of medical shape the 'ole fingers and wrists and shoulders are in.

108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:27:33pm

re: #91 Cartman

OK, R-Dubs. My water heater and my washer both went to appliance heaven in a 24 hour span, but other than that things are pretty good.

You need this, Cartman, according to Rush... : )

109 Racer X  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:27:53pm
Last time I had a flat tire, I pulled my truck into one of those side-of-the-road gas stations. The attendant walks out, looks at my truck, looks at me, and I SWEAR he said, "Tire go flat?" I couldn't resist. I said, "Nope. I was driving around and those other three just swelled right up on me. Here's your sign."
110 Moe Katz  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:06pm

A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees.

— William Blake

If you've seen one tree you've seen them all.
- Ronald Reagan

111 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:08pm

re: #98 Lizard by the Bay

Ghost Rider, One Little Victory, Earthshine. These three songs are good (not great). The rest of the album is utterly forgettable IMHO.

Add Sweet Miracle to that I am will agree to the list of good songs from the album.

112 pegcity  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:11pm

re: #103 karmic_inquisitor

I think the Obama train is running out of steam, the media is even having a hard time covering up his gaffes.

113 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:19pm

re: #67 pegcity

Obama is going to go down in flames in november

Somebody tell him to ask John F*ing Kerry how well those European endorsements worked out.

Americans want an American Citizen as President, not some utopian dreamer that claims to be a World Citizen. If there is one person that is expected to put America First, it is the President of the United States of America.

Americans know that Europe loves a weak America, and that is why, by and large, they hated Reagan.

114 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:31pm

re: #68 cliffster Well you know she ought not to be trying to play with the men. She has to hit longer approach shots (guys are hitting 6 or 7 irons and she's using a two iron) and she really needs to improve her short game - a LOT.
Don't know why the LPGA is giving her a hard time, though.

115 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:39pm

re: #105 Cartman

I'm at peace with his passing. He and I didn't get along very well, but I'm pleased that I made some kind of peace with him before he went. I think I'd be feeling very sad if I hadn't.

116 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:40pm

re: #79 Wyatt Earp

Four years prison for that? Man, I am grateful to have been born American.

Your last bit was chuckle worthy:

Oh, she’s guilty alright. Guilty of being smoking hot! I say we throw the book at her. And by “book,” I mean me.

117 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:45pm

re: #77 baxtrice

Wish I had your optimism, everyone I meet seems to be imbued with a zombie like devotion to "O-bam-aaaa..."

If you are in a solid blue state, shrug it off.

If you are in a swing state - worry.

118 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:50pm

re: #88 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I heard he didn't meet with the regular troops hardly at all, but did have time to work out at the hotel gym and get in plenty of photo ops with the brass.
Seethe.

119 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:55pm

re: #102 Archimedes

It just keeps getting funnier every time I watch it.

120 ggt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:28:56pm

I've decided my response to the Obamaites is:

Why in the world would you want a CHICAGO POLITICIAN in the Oval Office?

121 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:29:09pm

Nighty-night, Lizards!

122 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:29:11pm

Getting back to Vapor Trails, it wasn't the weak song writing so much as the horrible mixing. Who wants to listen to a CD so overcooked that it's clipping from beginning to end? Oh yeah, and if I hear Secret Touch one more time I may vomit. Blessedly, they dropped it from the second leg of the tour and replaced it with Red Barchetta.

123 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:29:32pm

re: #116 Slumbering Behemoth

Thank you much. That story almost writes itself. A good thing, too, since I can barely link two words together.

Well, I can link Obama Sucks, but that's about it.

124 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:29:40pm

re: #106 jaunte

Which is nonsense, of course. He's trying to become their commander in chief.

He blew them off. He doesn't care, and it's useless to pretend that he does.

125 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:29:52pm

re: #108 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

You need this, Cartman, according to Rush... : )

Too late. I went for the garden variety water tube. It was just a tad more in my price range. ;)

126 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:30:03pm

re: #106 jaunte

Here's what his campaign said: "The senator decided out of respect for these servicemen and women that it would be inappropriate to make a stop to visit troops at a U.S. military facility as part of a trip funded by the campaign."
[Link: www.politico.com...]

IMHO, Obambi's an asshole. Who'd vote for the knucklehead?

127 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:30:25pm

re: #93 karmic_inquisitor

Sometimes I have to step back and question my own involvement in the polls. I want so badly for McCain to win that my tendency is to discount polls from D-sources, like PPP, or university-based polls, like Quin.

But this university poll looked positive for McCain. Winning in COlorado and closing in in MI, MN and WI ... it is almost too good to be true.

And it is only July.

The model skew is way off -- I agree. They should base it, in states with declared and public registration information, on the actual registrations by party.

I don't pay for premium, but Rasmussen seems all over the place this year. Any insight into his fundamentals?

128 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:30:46pm

re: #35 Wyatt Earp

Lord knows I am a fool, and I see a naked Peruvian broad using her flag as a saddle!

It's okay, the picture is safe for work.

...one giant step for vexilloligy.

129 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:30:47pm

re: #67 pegcity

Obama is going to go down in flames in november

Forgot to mention - this trip fixed the idea that we are winning in Iraq in many minds. Unintended consequence.

That lowers anxiety and anger and now raises the skepticism bar.

Obama has no work history. None. Never a full time job.

130 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:30:52pm

Here's the thing...
I don't want the walls torn down between us and the Islamofascists.
Leave 'em up.
Hell, build 'em higher.

131 nigella  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:31:17pm

By the way the Obama handlers are blaming the Pentagon for their not visiting the troops. They say it would look political. Hello, how many Senators etc. have visited the wounded troops? Were they afraid they would be accused of politicizing?Please give me a break. Obama didn't want to be seen with troops who were less than enthusiastic. Better to play to an adoring German crowds. Sick.........

132 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:31:18pm

Mr. Obama Head should have worn his angry eyes.

133 Marvo76[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:31:20pm
134 Opilio  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:31:24pm

re: #67 pegcity

Obama is going to go down in flames in november

Promise?

135 Abu Al-Poopypants[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:31:27pm
136 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:31:55pm

re: #109 Racer X

We decided on the spur of the moment to go and get some tacos at work last week and brought them back to the office. One of our coworkers came by and asked "Where did the tacos come from?" My response, "Mexico, there's millions of them."

It was funny at the time.

137 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:32:03pm

re: #115 Dianna

My Pop was pretty much my best bud later on in life. His passing was pretty tough on me. I'm really glad you made peace with yours. It was the right thing to do.

138 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:32:03pm

re: #82 Dianna
Hi Dianna! Don't be afraid, go ahead and click it, it's really not that bad!
Funny, yes, bad, not so much!

139 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:32:04pm

re: #114 realwest

well she gave up on playing with the men.. for now. It's been a long time since she got mixed up on that. I'm just thinking, that's at least two DQ's for her. I've heard of, maybe 1 other DQ and I don't at all remember the details. So is Wie just an idiot, or are they picking on her? Kind've a weird way to treat someone who singlehandedly doubles your ratings?

140 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:32:06pm

re: #100 nigella

baxtrice, if this makes you feel any better my"older" sister, a staunch Democrat for 30 years and her dim-wit friend have told me after years of blasting my Conservative beliefs, that it will be a cold day in hell before they will vote for Obama. They were Hillary fans and are livid he treated her so badly. Take it for what it's worth.

I don't know, I grew up in a "independent" household..but we usually voted for the Republicans, because the "less government the better" is what my dad always said. LOL This has been one strange campaign season.

141 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:32:08pm

re: #26 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Two bowling teams, one of all blondes and one of all brunettes, charter a double-decker bus for a weekend trip.

The brunette team rode on the bottom of the bus, and the blonde team rode on the top level.

The brunette team down below really whooped it up, having a great time, when one of them realized she hadn't heard anything from the blondes upstairs.

She decided to go up and investigate.

When the brunette reached the top, she found all the blondes in fear, staring straight ahead at the road, clutching the seats in front of them with white knuckles.

the brunette asked, "What the heck's going on up here? We're having a great time downstairs!"

One of the blondes looked up at her, swallowed hard and whispered...

"YEAH, BUT YOU'VE GOT A DRIVER!"

That is funny!

142 jaunte  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:32:30pm

re: #124 Dianna

This is a pretty clear sign that he'd be as bad for the military as Carter.

143 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:32:41pm

Uh, oh. Someone rogered the thread.

144 pegcity  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:32:54pm

re: #113 CyanSnowHawk

Obama just wants America to be loved again.

BARF

145 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:33:02pm

re: #128 Fenway_Nation

Wow, I had to look that word up. Thanks! I feel a tad bit smarter now.

146 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:33:13pm

re: #143 Cartman

Uh, oh. Someone rogered the thread.

It must be you. My thread is not Rogered.

147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:33:38pm

re: #114 realwest

Well you know she ought not to be trying to play with the men. She has to hit longer approach shots (guys are hitting 6 or 7 irons and she's using a two iron) and she really needs to improve her short game - a LOT.
Don't know why the LPGA is giving her a hard time, though.

I know why. Maybe she needs to win like, oh, maybe ONE LPGA tournament, and learn how to sign her scorecard, then she can maybe think about playing PGA tour events.

148 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:33:42pm
149 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:33:52pm

re: #146 Mich-again

Roger that. Heh.

150 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:34:01pm

Now, Despite how good the new album is, I think it was a huge mistake to play eight songs from it on the last tour, and completely blow off albums like Test For Echo, Presto, etc. Especially that 5 song post break marathon (the audience was wishing they had held their bathroom break for this part I think). And the choices... Spindrift? The Way the Wind Blows? The Larger Bowl? I would have traded all three songs for Faithless, but that's just me.

151 pegcity  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:34:14pm

re: #148 Dianna

Ah Mossad

152 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:34:29pm

re: #100 nigella

baxtrice, if this makes you feel any better my"older" sister, a staunch Democrat for 30 years and her dim-wit friend have told me after years of blasting my Conservative beliefs, that it will be a cold day in hell before they will vote for Obama. They were Hillary fans and are livid he treated her so badly. Take it for what it's worth.


Sounds familiar. My brother and SIL, who are yellow dog Democrats (tho not moonbats) can't stand Obama. He told me he was seriously tempted to take a job offer in Florida just so they could vote for McCain! (They live in PRico.)

153 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:34:45pm

re: #117 karmic_inquisitor

If you are in a solid blue state, shrug it off.

If you are in a swing state - worry.

I'm in Texas, I'm not too worried, I'm just tired of all the college students and the professors with their lips planted firmly on Obama's hindquarters. I had to defend Hillary Clinton in class one day, because the professor was ranting about how she should have dropped out. I told him that this was America and if she wanted to run for Pres. let her freakin run. I thought he was going to fail me. LOL

154 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:34:53pm

re: #147 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Heh, seems like she would. But how many LPGA tour members haven't won an event? And how many have inadvertantly broken the rules and didn't get DQ'd?

155 Ozark Mountain Daredevil[deleted]  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:35:03pm
156 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:35:22pm

re: #84 hermeneutics
"I've found, after battling the big C, that periodic detoxing/fasting is good for the body."
You mean to tell me that you periodlically drink ONLY lemon juice with maple syrup ... for TEN DAYS? How does that help with battling cancer? Did a doctor tell you to do that and if not does your doctor know you do that?!
Oh, and I'm sorry, but if this is day 3, you have 7 days left to go, not 6! SORRY!

157 ggt  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:35:23pm

I don't see any Rodgering, but someone was bad.

158 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:35:29pm

re: #148 Dianna

I have been saying for years the best way to deal with the Mullahs is to Terrorize the Terrorists.

159 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:35:50pm

re: #148 Dianna

Ah, I got that through 1) Rod Graves' reader blog over at Say Anything Blog, and he got it via Ace.

160 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:35:52pm

OK, now the thread is Rogered...

161 prime_minister_of_sinister  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:36:11pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Does anyone have a good joke?

A naked blond walks into a bar with a poodle under one arm and a two foot salami under the other. She lays the poodle on the table. The bartender says, "I suppose you won't be needing a drink." The naked lady says...

162 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:36:23pm

re: #151 pegcity

I don't know. Looks like the US to me, possibly DIA?

163 Metal Man  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:36:34pm

re: #126 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

This take on why Obama skipped seeing the wounded troops is even worse.

Did Obama Snub Troops Becuase He Couldn't Bring Reporters Along?


164 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:36:40pm

OK. Reloaded and things are cool now. Lost the sidebars there for a minute.

165 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:36:45pm

re: #49 Fenway_Nation

Got one for you. ;) And it came from a member of the same Fenway Nation we belong to!

Senator BARACK OBAMA was invited to address a major gathering of the Northeast American Indian Tribes two weeks ago in upstate New York .

HE spoke for almost an hour on HIS future plans for increasing every Native Americans present standard of living, should HE one day become the President. HE referred to his career as a Senator, how he had signed 'YES' for every Indian issue that came to his desk for approval.

Although the Senator was vague on the details of his plan, he seemed most enthusiastic about his future ideas for helping his 'red sisters and brothers'.

At the conclusion of his speech, the Tribes presented the Senator with a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name - Walking Eagle. The proud Senator then depart ed in his motorcade, waving to the crowds.

A news reporter later inquired to the group of leaders of how they came to select the new name they had given to the Senator. They explained that Walking Eagle is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly.

166 pegcity  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:36:57pm
Iran is intensifying efforts to strengthen the effectiveness of Hizbollah in southern Lebanon in preparation for a possible attack on Israel. Revolutionary Guards are keen to strengthen its leadership following the assassination of Imad Mugniyeh, Hizbollah’s head of security, in the Syrian capital by Israeli agents last February.

How does the telegraph know it was Israel, last time i checked they didn't admit anything

167 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:00pm

re: #154 cliffster

Heh, seems like she would. But how many LPGA tour members haven't won an event? And how many have inadvertantly broken the rules and didn't get DQ'd?

Inadvertently means she didn't know it was a rule. Doesn't apply in this situation. Sorry.

168 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:10pm

re: #91 Cartman So you're saying you haven't showered and you haven't had any clean clothes to wear recently (shuffles around to be upwind of Cartman)? Gee, I'm really sorry to hear that -were either under warranty?

169 Inquisitive  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:14pm

Hello to all Lizards(even you new ones...I see I missed an open door earlier) and how is everyone is Lizard nation today?

170 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:23pm

re: #160 Mich-again

OK, now the thread is Rogered...

I've got Roger Moore in my avatar..does that mean anything? LOL

171 SpartanWoman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:24pm

re: #148 Dianna

Whoa! Have a look at this!

Mysterious Explosions plague the Republican Guards

Mysterious explosions? In Mosques? In those holy places where nothing bad could ever ever happen?

Seems like some might be munitions depots, imo

172 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:25pm

re: #153 baxtrice

If he does, take him to the administration. Seriously.

173 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:28pm

re: #20 karmic_inquisitor

[Link: www.fivethirtyeight.com...]

The guy is an Obama supporter but a statistician who plays it straight.

The numbers are all eroding for him.

Interesting.

The more you see of him, the less sense he talks, in my experience. Today's speech in Berlin was just plain silly, being a mush-headed collection of banal platitudes tied together with a half-remembered Reader's Digest version of history. It read like B- material from a college speech class.

Maybe, just maybe, other people are starting to notice...

...Yeah, and maybe I'm a Chinese jet pilot.

174 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:33pm

Hey Realwest,

Seems to be a lot of excitement around here lately. I'm getting too old for any new Purple Hearts, so I watch from a safe distance. How are things with you? I hope you are doing well.

175 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:33pm

re: #164 Cartman

OK. Reloaded and things are cool now. Lost the sidebars there for a minute.

Reloaded here too and the thread is no longer Rogered. Weirod.

176 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:35pm

Hey Wyatt and Realwest!

177 Macker  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:37:41pm

re: #130 tradewind

Here's the thing...
I don't want the walls torn down between us and the Islamofascists.
Leave 'em up.
Hell, build 'em higher.

And fill 'em with water.

178 Abu Al-Poopypants  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:38:13pm

answers: WAtW: A, C, E, I; BHO: B, D, F, G, H.

179 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:38:21pm

re: #148 Dianna

Remember, these are the same crack troops that surrendered en masse to the Americans in about, oh, ten minutes in DSI.
The same troops whose PR was handled by Mohammed Al Seef, AKA Baghdad Bob, the wacky Iraqi information minister.
Not surprising that they have a hard time keeping a secret.

180 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:38:32pm

re: #127 hermeneutics

No idea why Rasmussen is oscillating so much.

He has a solid track record. I can only assume it reflects real uncertainty. A lot of people want Obama to win because they think it will cleanse the nation of some past sins.

As they tune into what he is saying, the doubts circulate.

The Florida flip seemed weird at first to me, but I am speculating that the Jewish vote is very undecided on the guy and the latest poll (which probably overstated the move) still reflects a lot of Jewish voters accepting Obama over Hillary and returning to a "Vote Democrat" mindset.

Pure speculation.

But this is all going to play out with regional shifts before it sets up and hardens in October.

181 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:38:39pm

re: #158 Mich-again

And you are right.

I'd prefer, of course, to think it's internal; though I admit that is unlikely.

182 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:38:48pm

Rogered again. I think it's the text that was pasted in #135, and reposted in #155. It's pushing the margins.

183 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:38:51pm

re: #104 ggt I'm really glad to hear that ggt! Haven't heard from you lately and was wondering about you - was gonna e-mail tonight or tomorrow. Really glad to hear you're doing ok!

184 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:39:05pm

I smell hatchlings..

185 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:39:11pm

re: #171 SpartanWoman

Not in mosques.

Read the article. It's very interesting.

186 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:39:42pm

re: #122 Lizard by the Bay

Getting back to Vapor Trails, it wasn't the weak song writing so much as the horrible mixing. Who wants to listen to a CD so overcooked that it's clipping from beginning to end? Oh yeah, and if I hear Secret Touch one more time I may vomit. Blessedly, they dropped it from the second leg of the tour and replaced it with Red Barchetta.

Yikes, okay I won't make you listen to that song if we have a lizard meetup. :)

187 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:12pm

I never see Salamantis post anywhere else but the evolution/creationist threads, and prolificly Salamantis posts there! Who is this person?

188 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:16pm

re: #168 realwest

So you're saying you haven't showered and you haven't had any clean clothes to wear recently (shuffles around to be upwind of Cartman)? Gee, I'm really sorry to hear that -were either under warranty?

Yeah, I was pretty 'disagreeable' this morning, so to speak. It's all good now!

189 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:19pm

re: #143 Cartman

Uh, oh. Someone rogered the thread.

I remember meeting an English expat in Asia who carried a second set of business cards with the name "Roger U. Hard" on them.

190 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:23pm

re: #156 realwest

Yes, that's what I drink -- lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne pepper. For ten days.

The third day is a bitch. That was today.

This is the only bizarre health thing I do. When it is over, RW, I really do feel better. I have to be careful I don't lose too much weight, though.

191 Marvo76  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:26pm

Hi all, evidently somone in management didn't like my joke, it got deleted. Hope everone is doing well, and welcome to the hatchlings...

192 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:44pm

Jeopardy question: Where US special operators are hanging out these days.

Answer: What are countries ending in "an"?

193 Inquisitive  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:46pm

re: #20 karmic_inquisitor

[Link: www.fivethirtyeight.com...]

The guy is an Obama supporter but a statistician who plays it straight.

The numbers are all eroding for him.

By looking at all these Polls lately....I am going to have to find a new state to move to....I am tired of being in a booo blue state.

194 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:48pm

re: #148 Dianna

Whoa! Have a look at this!

Mysterious Explosions plague the Republican Guards

You're welcome.

(cue my theme music)

195 rightwinger3  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:55pm
A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees.

— William Blake

Not only that but Kos and PuffHo are in a whole different forest.

196 Racer X  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:40:57pm
After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door, a man walked into H&J Leather & Firearms intent on robbing the store.

The shop was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter. Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up! and fired a few wild shots from a target pistol. The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounc ed dead at the scene by Paramedics.

Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases in the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.

197 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:41:10pm

re: #106 jaunte Hey juante! How are ya tonight?
Didn't his campaign think it funny that he stopped at military bases in Iraq and Aghanistan, then, you know - inappropriate to do that on the taxpayer's dime.
BTW, anyword on where he and Michelle will be spending their time shopping on "our" dime?!

198 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:41:16pm

re: #184 Yankee Division Son

I smell hatchlings..

I used deodorent this morning. Tough crowd!

199 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:41:23pm

BBIAM!

200 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:41:24pm

re: #186 baxtrice

Yikes, okay I won't make you listen to that song if we have a lizard meetup. :)

No problem. :-) Actually, if we just keep Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, and Grace Under Pressure on a loop I think everyone will be happy.

201 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:41:33pm

(This is a joke my rabbi liked)

In the old days, two young rabbis are on a train heading to a small town for a shidduch (arranged marriage). The one young rabbi says to the other, "I'm not ready to get married." He gets off the train at the next stop and leaves our story.

When the train pulls into the small town, there are two potential mother in laws waiting, but only one young rabbi.

The two mothers start to argue over whose daughter will get the young man. The argument gets heated. They take the problem to the sage old rabbi of the town.

The old rabbi strokes his long bushy gray beard and and peers over his little round glasses in deep thought. Finally, he slaps his hand on his desk and shouts:

"We will do what King Solomon did! Cut him in half!"

The first potential mother in law says:

"That's horrible! He's such a nice young man! How can we do such a thing!"

The second potential mother in law grins evilly and sneers:

"Great idea. Cut him in half."

The old rabbi points at her and says:

"That is the real mother in law!"

202 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:41:44pm

re: #166 pegcity

I have no bloody clue. I'm saying it's interesting, not that I have all the answers.

203 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:41:55pm

re: #172 Dianna

If he does, take him to the administration. Seriously.

I didn't give him a reason to fail me. Every assignment was turned in on time. I always made an A, but I got an A- for a final grade at the end of the semester... LOL I wondered about that minus for a bit..

204 SpartanWoman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:42:26pm

re: #185 Dianna

Not in mosques.

Read the article. It's very interesting.

The caption under the pic read:A funeral procession for two of the people who died in the mysterious explosion in a mosque in Shiraz.
But the rest of the article is interesting enough.Still say many mosques are probably full of explosives

205 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:42:30pm

re: #179 tradewind

Ah...Iran, not Iraq?

206 pegcity  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:42:42pm

re: #202 Dianna

sorry wasnt commenting about what you said

207 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:43:01pm

bbl

208 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:43:24pm

New York Times goes bankrupt soon. I would smile. A lot.

209 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:43:58pm

re: #201 LudwigVanQuixote

(This is a joke my rabbi liked)

In the old days, two young rabbis are on a train heading to a small town for a shidduch (arranged marriage). The one young rabbi says to the other, "I'm not ready to get married." He gets off the train at the next stop and leaves our story.

When the train pulls into the small town, there are two potential mother in laws waiting, but only one young rabbi.

The two mothers start to argue over whose daughter will get the young man. The argument gets heated. They take the problem to the sage old rabbi of the town.

The old rabbi strokes his long bushy gray beard and and peers over his little round glasses in deep thought. Finally, he slaps his hand on his desk and shouts:

"We will do what King Solomon did! Cut him in half!"

The first potential mother in law says:

"That's horrible! He's such a nice young man! How can we do such a thing!"

The second potential mother in law grins evilly and sneers:

"Great idea. Cut him in half."

The old rabbi points at her and says:

"That is the real mother in law!"

The old rabbi had a desk at the train station? Why?

210 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:43:58pm

BTW - I am awestruck by anyone battling cancer who has a great attitude - like those on this board who are fighting it / have fought it. You folks inspire the crap out of me.

211 Dianna  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:44:13pm

Agh!

I'm so sorry, I must sign off and head for bed. The dogs need walkies, the trash needs emptying, and then, well, 5 am comes way too early for me.

Take care, lizards!

212 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:44:30pm

re: #35 Wyatt Earp

Lord knows I am a fool, and I see a naked Peruvian broad using her flag as a saddle!

It's okay, the picture is safe for work.

Wow. That girl has a butt that won't quit.

She can wear my flag anytime

213 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:44:39pm

re: #200 Lizard by the Bay

No problem. :-) Actually, if we just keep Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, and Grace Under Pressure on a loop I think everyone will be happy.

Can I add Hold Your Fire to that?

214 SpartanWoman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:44:46pm

re: #208 cliffster

New York Times goes bankrupt soon. I would smile. A lot.

They would certainly deserve it. I would hope that it's bought by a conservative outlet.

215 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:44:59pm

re: #180 karmic_inquisitor

I really don't understand the white guilt stuff. I'm very white ... and not guilty of anything that would cause me to vote for someone just because he's black.

The Jewish voter phenomenon fascinates. I've been wondering when they'll flip to the Rep side, only because it seems rational for a sincere Jew (not the secular Jews) to vote Republican. I think this may be the election that pulls Judaism into secular and practicing contingents with the secular voting D and religious voting R. We'll see.

216 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:45:02pm

re: #209 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The old rabbi had a desk at the train station? Why?

Crap! Never mind.

217 Carridine  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:45:05pm

re: #187 cliffster

I dunno, but his ideas, responses, logic, reasoning and communication skills are first-rate, Cliff!

/Gotta go, back as K

218 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:45:13pm

re: #208 cliffster

New York Times goes bankrupt soon. I would smile. A lot.

What was the story today? 82% drop in profits? Haven't they figured out yet that liberals don't pay for their news?

219 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:45:23pm

re: #109 Racer X Hey, here's a Bill story: I came out of the dry cleaners and saw a fella trying to open his car door with a coat hanger - good looking car, too, all washed and waxed up real pretty and I asked him "Lose your keys" and he replied, "Nope just washed her and I'm fixing to hang her up to dry!" Here's YOUR sign Bill Engelvalt!

220 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:46:07pm

re: #213 baxtrice

Can I add Hold Your Fire to that?

I hope you do! My favorite, actually. I just picked the 3 that all Rush fans seem to agree on.

221 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:46:11pm

re: #90 ggt

That's what happens when you drive you don't know how to drive a stick shift.

I had my most decisive argument win ever due to someone popping their clutch and getting tapped by the following car that wasn't paying attention.

My friend had just purchased this car, and did not know how to drive a stick. (Silly girl) I had managed to show her quickly how to handle it, and talk her through some simple stuff on streets with no traffic, and she was getting the hang of it. We were at a stop sign and making a right turn to a somewhat busy street. Someone pulls up behind us and she goes to make the turn, pops the clutch and stalls. The guy behind us, looking for oncoming traffic doesn't notice we stopped until he is right on top of us, then taps the back bumper when he can't stop in time. I get out to talk with him and he starts carrying on about how my friend shouldn't be driving if she doesn't know how. I return that he should pay attention to what is in front of him. He counters by saying that she did something unexpected and he is a Reserve Deputy for the San Diego County Sheriff's office and he knows about driving safely, at which point I managed to shut him down completely with five words, "Then you should've known better."

222 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:46:12pm

re: #112 pegcity Hi there. Well take a look in the Spin off links - the Associated With Terrorist Press isn't having a hard time at all!

223 RedPepper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:46:13pm

“The Lizards of the night will come on shift at anytime now and use the thread for all kinds of perverted purposes.” ~ AmeriDan, previous thread, describing the Dead Thread

Just curious. Are the perversions going to begin any time soon?

/I'm starting to get sleepy ...

224 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:46:33pm

Some people contribute in great measure to making this world suck for everyone else.

And they're probably Democrats.

225 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:46:33pm

re: #198 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

lol... welcome aboard.

226 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:46:33pm

re: #215 hermeneutics

I don't have any white guilt either.

And I don't think that obambi had to point out "that he looked different than other Americans who had talked to Berliners"

227 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:47:10pm

re: #56 MandyManners

kid in the front row on the left

228 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:47:17pm

re: #218 Lizard by the Bay

What was the story today? 82% drop in profits? Haven't they figured out yet that liberals don't pay for their news?

Like everything else, they expect the taxpayers, AKA us, to pay for it.

229 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:47:57pm

re: #126 Ozark Mountain Daredevil Other assholes. Or the MSM, but then I repeat myself.

230 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:48:11pm

re: #205 Dianna

Sorry...
I read 'Revolutionary Guard' and transposed it to ' Republican Guard'.
Getting late.
Then again, the link does read ' explosions plague republican guard', so I cop a nolo plea.
:)

231 Syrah  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:48:16pm

Some interesting "polls".

232 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:48:25pm

re: #130 tradewind

Here's the thing...
I don't want the walls torn down between us and the Islamofascists.
Leave 'em up.
Hell, build 'em higher.

there's a joke about that..... %-)

233 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:48:41pm

re: #220 Lizard by the Bay

I hope you do! My favorite, actually. I just picked the 3 that all Rush fans seem to agree on.

Hold Your Fire has my absolute favorite Rush song ever on it -- and if you click on my nick, and read my tagline, I'm sure you'll recognize it.

OT -- my kitten is having a schizophrenic attack and trying to eat my toes!

234 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:49:26pm

re: #225 Yankee Division Son

lol... welcome aboard.

Thanks!

235 songbird  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:49:29pm

re: #223 RedPepper

“The Lizards of the night will come on shift at anytime now and use the thread for all kinds of perverted purposes.” ~ AmeriDan, previous thread, describing the Dead Thread

Just curious. Are the perversions going to begin any time soon?

/I'm starting to get sleepy ...

The most exciting thing that happens on the overnight thread is the Fruit Cup!

236 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:49:41pm

re: #228 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Like everything else, they expect the taxpayers, AKA us, to pay for it.

How long before someone broaches the idea of a newspaper bailout in Congress?

237 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:50:02pm

re: #72 Mich-again

were did you get a pic of mandy driving

ducks
just kidding mandy

238 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:50:25pm

re: #212 Pawn of the Oppressor

Homer Simpson's' infamous line to Marge when they were dating: "Surely, yours is a butt that won't quit."

239 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:50:45pm

re: #236 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How long before someone broaches the idea of a newspaper bailout in Congress?

If I hear the term bailout used one more time in Congress, I am going to REVOLT!

240 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:50:51pm

re: #209 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

The old rabbi had a desk at the train station? Why?

It is always painful when your joke falls flat... LVQ hangs head in shame. They took the argument to the old rabbi somewhere in town.

241 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:51:04pm

re: #139 cliffster I don't know about being an idiot but she sures blames everyone else - last time she played the Men's tournament, she forgot to sign her scorecard and blamed her caddy!
If she wore longer skirts, the ratings would flat line for her.

242 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:51:12pm

re: #232 redc1c4

Well, don't leave us hanging......
Unless it's the one about drowning UBL.

243 Irene NYC  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:51:32pm

re: #236 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How long before someone broaches the idea of a newspaper bailout in Congress?

Isn't that what the dems are already calling the Fairness Doctrine?
;)

244 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:52:04pm

Iran: President declares 5 August 'Islamic human rights day'

Iran's Supreme Cultural Revolution Council headed by hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has declared 5 August an annual international Islamic human rights day.

The conservative-dominated council also nominated 12 July as an annual 'National Virtue Day for the Veil'.

/comedy gold

245 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:52:08pm

re: #231 Syrah

Some interesting "polls".

I love Intrade.

246 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:52:11pm

Recommended diary on kos:

"By this Foreign policy speech will future ones be measured"

A. I didn't think his speech today was that great.
B. He didn't get the applause I was expecting either.

247 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:52:42pm

re: #244 Killian Bundy

Iran: President declares 5 August 'Islamic human rights day'


/comedy gold

So there is comedy in the Muslim world

248 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:52:47pm

re: #238 Wyatt Earp

Homer Simpson's' infamous line to Marge when they were dating: "Surely, yours is a butt that won't quit."

Oh hey there Wyatt!
LOL

249 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:53:03pm

re: #148 Dianna I wonder if all of our Special Forces are accounted for?!
I wish.

250 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:53:17pm

re: #248 Typicalwhitey

Not a word, lady! :) Remember, I have surgery in ten hours!

251 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:53:18pm

So, democrats get defeated election after election by the heartland. And Obama goes abroad and gives his sweeping speeches, clearly appealing to people who think America has fallen down in the World's eyes. Does he think that the folks in the heartland are the ones that are pissed about how the world thinks about us?

252 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:54:01pm

re: #243 Irene NYC

Pelosi and company have a nifty end run to get the FD snuck through (they think) without actually getting the thang passed...
It's called ' local approval', where a peer review board in each market gets to thumbs up/thumbs down content.
The public needs to be aware in case they actually think we're that stupid and try it.

253 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:54:07pm

re: #227 yochanan

OK, now pick out my almost-2 year old grandson in this one. ;)

254 RedPepper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:54:10pm

re: #235 songbird

But ... but ... that's hours away, and besides, littleoldlady gets annoyed sometimes when we lace 'em with liqueurs ...

255 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:54:13pm

re: #251 cliffster

But the heartland SHOULD care!11! *makes gagging motion*

/sarc

256 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:55:08pm

re: #250 Wyatt Earp

Not a word, lady! :) Remember, I have surgery in ten hours!

Best wishes to you.

257 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:55:21pm

re: #233 baxtrice

There's almost too many great songs on that album for me to choose a favorite. Force Ten, Time Stand Still, Mission, Lock and Key, but I guess my personal fave is probably Turn the Page.

258 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:55:39pm

re: #241 realwest

Well, she did a good job of giving the right soundbites this time, eh? "Not intentional, I'll do better next time..." I think it'll be this or next year she wins. And she'll eventually be somebody. Funny, though, while she banks from Nike, Ochoa is banking through utter dominance. Go figure.

259 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:55:48pm

re: #229 realwest

Other assholes. Or the MSM, but then I repeat myself.

Nothing personal to you realwest, and I realize I'm new here, but can I make a suggestion? Hope I'm not out of line, but if anyone is going reply to message 100 posts or so upthread, could you please click to quote rather than reply? It would save a lot of us the trouble of having to scroll up to read what you're replying to. Thanks!

260 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:55:53pm

re: #240 LudwigVanQuixote

It is always painful when your joke falls flat... LVQ hangs head in shame. They took the argument to the old rabbi somewhere in town.

I thought it was a hoot! :)

261 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:55:55pm

If the Eurotrash love the Dalai Bama so much, maybe they could make him President of the EU for life, and keep him.
Works for me.

262 Racer X  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:55:59pm

OK this is funny. Scroll down.

263 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:56:01pm

One thing I have noticed:

The Democrats keep pinning their hopes on increasing turnout among 18-24-year-olds. They keep seeking some "magic bullet" solution that will cause all of those youth to show up at the polls and vote Democrat, and I don't think there is one.

The big problem for the Democrats is that 18-24-year-olds who lean left are mostly in college. The general election takes place in a different academic year from the primaries, and a big part of getting 18-24-year-olds to the polls involves personal ties. A college student can find him-or-herself in a very different situation in the fall than they were that previous spring. A new academic year can mean different living arrangements. Progress in ones academic career means the coursework only gets harder. Scholarships can be won or lost. You can make new friends or lose contact with old friends. Also, between academic years, most college students go home, and get deprogrammed a bit. November may not come late enough for the re-programming to take place.

In short, life happens to 18-24-year-old voters, and only the seriously political among them actually turn out and vote. The "right" candidate can't motivate the apathetic and overburdened youth.

264 Irene NYC  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:56:44pm

re: #244 Killian Bundy

Iran: President declares 5 August 'Islamic human rights day'


/comedy gold


Yes, Ahmadenijad is helping the world recognize a great American human rights holiday: the day the Pilgrims set said on the Mayflower for America. Good for him!
;)

265 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:56:47pm

re: #256 LudwigVanQuixote

Thanks, but it's more of a procedure: I'm getting snipped.

266 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:56:59pm

Check this out.

Even the Germans thought Obama's speech sucked.

Huge Crowds Left with Mixed Feelings

Expectations were sky-high for the speech US presidential candidate Barack Obama delivered in Berlin Thursday evening. Enormous crowds welcomed what the senator had to say, but not everyone was convinced by his delivery.

....

"In general I have to say I was a bit disappointed," Kliegl said. "The coverage of the primaries created this impression that he was an amazing speaker who could carry away his audience. He didn't do that tonight. I really expected more."

267 Opilio  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:56:59pm

re: #218 Lizard by the Bay

What was the story today? 82% drop in profits? Haven't they figured out yet that liberals don't pay for their news?

I read that they had a plan to address that profit issue... They're raising the newsstand price. Yup, that ought to do the trick.

268 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:57:15pm

re: #250 Wyatt Earp

Not a word, lady! :) Remember, I have surgery in ten hours!

DO you CounT On Recovering Soon?
KNowIng you, hope you don't Faint Entirely.
So LosIng your PowerS?

269 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:57:18pm

re: #251 cliffster

So, democrats get defeated election after election by the heartland. And Obama goes abroad and gives his sweeping speeches, clearly appealing to people who think America has fallen down in the World's eyes. Does he think that the folks in the heartland are the ones that are pissed about how the world thinks about us?

Lets wait for the polls to come out. Some are rolling averages, however, so they mask any quick response to Obama's trip.

270 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:57:37pm

re: #236 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

How long before someone broaches the idea of a newspaper bailout in Congress?

SHHHH! Media Matters Monitors Monitor Lizards!

271 Irene NYC  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:57:40pm

re: #252 tradewind

I'll watch out for that. Thanks for the heads up.

272 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:57:48pm

BBL

273 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:57:48pm

re: #223 RedPepper

“The Lizards of the night will come on shift at anytime now and use the thread for all kinds of perverted purposes.” ~ AmeriDan, previous thread, describing the Dead Thread

Just curious. Are the perversions going to begin any time soon?

/I'm starting to get sleepy ...

I think you're all some kind of deviated preverts. I think General Johnson found out about your preversion, and that you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts.

274 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:57:54pm

So Baxtrice, are you a 007 fan or just a Roger Moore fan? I must admit, I'm watching the unrated cut of Casino Royale right now.

275 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:58:03pm

re: #265 Wyatt Earp

Thanks, but it's more of a procedure: I'm getting snipped.

I'll keep my fly at half mast for you

276 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:58:16pm

re: #268 Typicalwhitey

I saw the subliminal message. If I die, you'll miss me!

277 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:58:52pm

re: #240 LudwigVanQuixote

It is always painful when your joke falls flat... LVQ hangs head in shame. They took the argument to the old rabbi somewhere in town.

No, it was good! I misread it!

278 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:59:30pm

re: #262 Racer X

Well, yeah, but hey...
Bubba's boat has its own submarine escort, the USS Lewinsky.
(not pictured).

279 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 9:59:37pm

re: #253 NY Nana

OK, now pick out my almost-2 year old grandson in this one. ;)

I think they're all adorable ... but is he the litle one in the back, sucking his thumb?

Most of them look older than two.

280 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:00:09pm

re: #174 tommoon Hey tommoon! Gee it's good to see you out here again!
Yeah, I'm WAAAAY to old for purple hearts myself, too! LOL! I'm doing ok, I guess. Thanks for asking.
How have you been doing?
Think you might be able to get out here more often?

For all y'all - tommoon was, iirc, the first LGFer I ever had a dialogue with out here - he's been sorta out of sight for a while, I think, but is one of the BEST LGFer's EVER!

281 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:00:25pm

I know a lot of you folks don't like Sean Hannity, but I like this:

"America is 4% of the population, but they pay 96% of the cost of keeping the world sane and free."

Werd.

282 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:00:31pm

re: #265 Wyatt Earp

Thanks, but it's more of a procedure: I'm getting snipped.

Your wife will love you still more for this.

283 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:00:55pm

re: #223 RedPepper

“The Lizards of the night will come on shift at anytime now and use the thread for all kinds of perverted purposes.” ~ AmeriDan, previous thread, describing the Dead Thread

Just curious. Are the perversions going to begin any time soon?

/I'm starting to get sleepy ...

we're waiting for you to go to sleep...... %-)

284 Racer X  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:01:01pm

re: #278 tradewind

Well, yeah, but hey...
Bubba's boat has its own submarine escort, the USS Lewinsky.
(not pictured).

I thought that went down?

(badabump)

285 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:01:19pm

re: #276 Wyatt Earp

Glad you caught it!
I have missed you but I would never tell you that.

Oops, did I say that out loud?

286 RedPepper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:01:24pm

re: #273 Occasional Reader

“Ain't nobody here but us chickens preverts !”

287 Wyatt Earp  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:01:32pm

re: #282 hermeneutics

Let's hope! Well, off to bed. Early day tomorrow. Night all!

288 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:01:49pm

re: #190 hermeneutics
Yeah, but does your doctor know you're doing that?
I mean, how do you know it's safe for you to do that, hermy?!

289 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:01:53pm

re: #242 tradewind

Well, don't leave us hanging......
Unless it's the one about drowning UBL.

"fill it with water...." %-)

290 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:01:54pm

re: #252 tradewind

Pelosi and company have a nifty end run to get the FD snuck through (they think) without actually getting the thang passed...
It's called ' local approval', where a peer review board in each market gets to thumbs up/thumbs down content.
The public needs to be aware in case they actually think we're that stupid and try it.

It would NEVER pass judicial scrutiny- Freedom of speech. It's much different than McCain-Feingold.

291 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:02:03pm

re: #257 Lizard by the Bay

There's almost too many great songs on that album for me to choose a favorite. Force Ten, Time Stand Still, Mission, Lock and Key, but I guess my personal fave is probably Turn the Page.

Ahh, haven't really listened that song in awhile. Good one. They have such a huge catalog, it's easy to forget/lose track of how many good songs they have. 33 years worth of material. And I've only been a fan since about '96-97.

292 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:02:13pm

re: #287 Wyatt Earp


Night Wyatt.
And seriously, good luck tomorrow!

293 SpartanWoman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:02:16pm

re: #266 karmic_inquisitor

The covers on the some of the linked German papers are hilarious. I particularly like Bild's photoshop jobs

294 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:02:17pm

re: #273 Occasional Reader

I think you're all some kind of deviated preverts. I think General Johnson found out about your preversion, and that you were organizing some kind of mutiny of preverts.

Precious bodily fluids?

295 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:02:25pm

re: #284 Racer X

Woulda been perfectly correct to use ' she '....
Navy lingo, ya know..
(But that was funny.....)

296 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:03:29pm

re: #291 baxtrice

By the reckoning of most Rush fans I'm a newbie, too. I didn't really get into them hardcore until Roll the Bones.

297 Occasional Reader  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:04:05pm

Wow, it's late. Time to say my prayers to Obama and hit the hay. Good night.

298 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:04:50pm

re: #210 karmic_inquisitor Huh, you mean we sorta act like ExLax for you? LOL!

299 Syrah  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:05:16pm

re: #263 RememberSekhmet?

Another thing that keeps the college kids from participating at very high levels in Presidential Elections is that voter registration rules often require that the voter register to vote at least one month prior to the election.

With Presidential Elections in the Early part of November, registration becomes problematic for students starting their fall term. There is plenty of time for them to register so long as they don't procrastinate. Unfortunately (or fortunately), procrastination is one of the first things that kids learn when they attend college.

300 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:05:29pm

re: #290 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No, their idea is that local ' standards boards ' could insist on whatever. And you know who usually makes up those boards, at least in large urban areas.
It would probably pass the 1st amendment test, but hopefully it won't get the chance.
They are talking about it, though, and are soo pleased with themselves to have come up with such a clever alternative that can be snuck by more easily.
I'm sure that local conservative talk shows, etc, would raise the red flags and put a halt to it.
Well, probably not in San Francisco.

301 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:05:34pm

re: #288 realwest

Yeah, but does your doctor know you're doing that?
I mean, how do you know it's safe for you to do that, hermy?!

I'm cancer free now, RW. No, I haven't told my doc. Frankly, I think the docs over-medicate and this is a way I purge my body of all this crap.

Honestly, it sounds drastic but it isn't. Fasting is commonplace.

I wouldn't have been able to do this when in the midst of chemo or radiation, btw.

302 Racer X  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:05:56pm

I'm out.

Nite everyone!

Dream of weet!

303 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:06:03pm

Joke time;

A small town gets word that flooding is expected and everyone should evacuate. One man is convinced his faith is strong enough and he'll pray to get thru it.

Well, the levee breaks and a jeep pulls up and offers him a ride out of the area. "No thanks, God will take care of me." He waves the jeep good bye and starts praying again.

The water keeps coming and he's forced to get on his roof. An emergency crew comes by in a boat. Once again, he waves it off. "I know God will take care of me."

Finally, its getting bleak. Its obvious the house will be washed away soon. A helicopter comes in low to save the man, but he yells back, "I'll be okay, I have faith God wont let me down."

The water keeps coming and eventually the guy and his whole house get washed away. He shows up in Heaven and finally meets God. Needless to say, he is a bit angry. "God, I thought you would save me. What happened?"

God sighs and answers, "Hey, I sent a jeep, a boat, and a helicopter. What the heck else did you want?"

304 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:06:27pm

re: #274 Lizard by the Bay

So Baxtrice, are you a 007 fan or just a Roger Moore fan? I must admit, I'm watching the unrated cut of Casino Royale right now.

I'm a Roger Moore fan who came to be a 007 fan, there used to be this show called "The Saint" in the early sixties, before Val Kilmer totally butchered the character, and I fell in love with Roger Moore. My dad was a big 007 fan, and he introduced me to the bond series when he found out I was a Roger Moore fan. Are you watching the new bond movie? I still need to see that. I've heard good stuff about the new bond.

305 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:06:33pm

re: #223 RedPepper

“The Lizards of the night will come on shift at anytime now and use the thread for all kinds of perverted purposes.” ~ AmeriDan, previous thread, describing the Dead Thread

Just curious. Are the perversions going to begin any time soon?

/I'm starting to get sleepy ...

:sigh: I can only do so much. You're gonna hafta carry your own weight at some point, and begin instigating your own perversions.

/I'm still gazing at that Peruvian flag...mmmmm

306 So?  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:06:34pm

Finally, a man with balls!

[Link: www.news.com.au...]

Nitey, nite!

307 RedPepper  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:06:44pm

re: #283 redc1c4

Thought so.

If I wake up with one eyebrow shaved off, I'm gonna be pissed ...

308 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:06:44pm

re: #262 Racer X

OK this is funny. Scroll down.

Too bad there really is a USS Carter. The name should have been given to a target.
And it looks like the Zumwalt class of destroyers was canceled. Zumwalt was Carter's man in charge of the Navy, universally hated by our sailors.
Come up with a better name for a new class.
The Burke class is well named.

On that, goodnight lizards

309 Opilio  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:06:57pm

re: #239 baxtrice

If I hear the term bailout used one more time in Congress, I am going to REVOLT!

I'm told I've been revolting for quite some time.

/rim shot

310 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:07:17pm

re: #296 Lizard by the Bay

By the reckoning of most Rush fans I'm a newbie, too. I didn't really get into them hardcore until Roll the Bones.

I've been a Rush fan since "Fly By Night". The greatest part of the "Fly By Night" LP is the "warning" on the cover- "For Best Results, Play This Album"!

311 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:07:19pm

I remember not too long ago, McCain was at some official function up in Canada. I know this for a fact because the smarmy douchebag announcer started off with "Today Republican Presidential candidate John McCain paid a visit to the crucial swing state of Canada...."

Night and day between coverage of that and Obama's campaign stop in Berlin....

312 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:07:54pm

re: #309 Opilio

I'm told I've been revolting for quite some time.

/rim shot

*Facefault*

313 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:08:09pm

re: #277 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

No, it was good! I misread it!

Thank you kindly!

Here is a question to the lizards of the night.

Shall I have a nip of the Lagavulin 16 or the Nadurra Glen Livet 18?

314 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:08:22pm

hey realwest - any trials reach out to you today?

315 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:08:31pm

Just in case you missed it from the last thread . . .

Struggling In Ohio As The Economy Tightens

The rising cost of food means their money gets them about a third fewer bags of groceries — $100 used to buy about 12 bags of groceries, but now it's more like seven or eight. So they cut back on expensive items like meat, and they don't buy extras like ice cream anymore. Instead, they eat a lot of starches like potatoes and noodles.

Angelica Hernandez (left) and her mother, Gloria Nunez, struggle to make ends meet on a very limited budget.

/okay, what's wrong with this picture?

316 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:08:54pm

re: #310 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I've been a Rush fan since "Fly By Night". The greatest part of the "Fly By Night" LP is the "warning" on the cover- "For Best Results, Play This Album"!

LOL I have always loved their humor.

317 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:08:55pm

re: #309 Opilio

I'm told I've been revolting for quite some time.

/rim shot

Sire, The peasants are revolting!

You said it. They stink on ice.

/Its good to be the King

318 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:09:17pm

But dammit, whose brilliant idea was it to have McCain juxtapose himself with Obama by riding a gold cart around Kennebunkport and stopping by a cheese shop with #41?
Not that there's anything wrong with either of those, but the timing and visuals rather suck.

319 Typicalwhitey  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:09:22pm

re: #315 Killian Bundy

Rush had that on today, it was hilarious!

320 Syrah  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:09:23pm

re: #313 LudwigVanQuixote

Thank you kindly!

Here is a question to the lizards of the night.

Shall I have a nip of the Lagavulin 16 or the Nadurra Glen Livet 18?

Both.

Take no chances.

321 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:10:00pm

re: #259 Ozark Mountain Daredevil Why sure - don't know why I'd expect you to remember what you said 100 posts ago.
It's just that I think and type slower than most folks and am usually 100 posts or so behind. No intentional foul I assure you.

322 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:10:39pm

re: #215 hermeneutics

that been happening for some time ortho and russian jews vote gop now.

323 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:10:41pm

It's funny, I was never a fan of Roger Moore as 007 until recently, when I started listening to his audio commentaries. It's easy to forget that unlike Connery, Moore had been acting for decades, was older, and for him Bond was just another acting job. I used to think that Moore thought he was too good for the role, but in truth he just never let the role define him like other actors. I've actually come to respect him a great deal for that later in life.

He's also just hysterical. I don't know how anything got done with him around. His ability to tell a joke or funny story aren't legendary, but should be.

324 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:10:55pm

Okay, time for beddie.

Good night, Lizards ... and a special "good night" to our newest lizards.

325 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:11:58pm

Realwest,

Yea, I mostly bleed lizard green. I've had a lot of great evenings here and some forgetable ones. I keep up with the things here, though I tend not to get as involved as before. It is sometimes nicer to just visit. Christ, I'm watching Ramsey's Kicthen and seem to have developed an English accent and thought process. . It is always good to talk to you Realwest, you always have that invitation to visit.

326 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:12:24pm

re: #307 RedPepper

Thought so.

If I wake up with one eyebrow shaved off, I'm gonna be pissed ...

no: yer gonna be pissed because you have a hand in a bowl of warm water. %-)

/white smoke

327 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:02pm
328 hermeneutics  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:12pm

re: #322 yochanan

that been happening for some time ortho and russian jews vote gop now.

I saw this just as I was about to sign off. Generally, the more religious you are (salience) the more likely you are to vote GOP. This applies to almost every faith in the US.

Except non-Orthodox Jews. Thus, I'm curious/anxious to see how the Jewish vote splits this election. It could be really interesting!

329 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:30pm

re: #320 Syrah

Both.

Take no chances.

:)

330 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:13:35pm

re: #323 Lizard by the Bay

You should really check out the old episodes of The Saint, his really sharp and DRY wit just shine in that show. He got to have a lot of fun in that role and you can tell. I love that show to pieces, but I can't find it over here in America anymore. It's only available in the UK now. I used to be able to find it on syndicated TV, but it's not very PC...so you know what happens..down the memory hole..

331 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:14:18pm

re: #313 LudwigVanQuixote

Thank you kindly!

Here is a question to the lizards of the night.

Shall I have a nip of the Lagavulin 16 or the Nadurra Glen Livet 18?

yes..... several fingers of each.

/i'll take the rest %-)

332 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:14:41pm

re: #313 LudwigVanQuixote

Thank you kindly!

Here is a question to the lizards of the night.

Shall I have a nip of the Lagavulin 16 or the Nadurra Glen Livet 18?

Nadurra. I'm sure she's too young for you, but Lagavulin is illegal.

333 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:14:43pm

re: #325 tommoon
Nice to see you here again. I'm just doing a couple of "drive by" posts and then I'm out.

334 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:15:01pm

re: #314 cliffster
Um, what? Oh, I see - no I've been medically retired as both a professor and an active attorney at law for 3 years now.

335 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:15:03pm

Has anyone/everyone seen the movie ' The Kingdon'?
What did you think?

336 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:15:32pm

.... PIMF, umm, kingdom

337 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:15:59pm

re: #253 NY Nana

second row third from the left looks like one of mine from that age.

338 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:16:13pm

re: #296 Lizard by the Bay

By the reckoning of most Rush fans I'm a newbie, too. I didn't really get into them hardcore until Roll the Bones.

My first Rush Album was 2112, bought in '79. I think I have the full catalog. Permanent Waves is a personal favorite, but I have been rarely disappointed by them.

339 yochanan  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:02pm

re: #328 hermeneutics
ortho jews are the religous jews by defination.

340 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:04pm

re: #321 realwest

Why sure - don't know why I'd expect you to remember what you said 100 posts ago.
It's just that I think and type slower than most folks and am usually 100 posts or so behind. No intentional foul I assure you.

LOL, no problem. I've been a long time lurker here (hope that's legal!) and finally got admitted. I just figured I cannot be the only one having to scroll up, and then having to scroll back down, and remember were I was, especially after a few Bud Lights.

341 slokat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:05pm

re: #330 baxtrice

Look here: The Saint

342 Syrah  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:17:09pm

re: #328 hermeneutics

It will be interesting indeed.

The more that polarizing Islam becomes in the political discourse, the more likely I think we are to see some shifts in the old patterns.

343 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:22pm

re: #315 Killian Bundy
ROTFLMAO!
Minorities and poor hardest hit.
No doubt, it's Bushes' fault.

344 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:42pm

Pvt Bin Jammin

I know the feeling. Just keep your head down, watch for the pushy ones and keep cover close. They can't hit what they can't catch.

345 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:44pm

re: #340 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
You're fun. Glad you finally got registered. It took me forever, even though I was a long time lurker. LOL I just recently had my first anniversary here on LGF.

346 pegcity  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:19:59pm

re: #315 Killian Bundy

America is so evil, look at how malnurished poor people are.

347 RTLM  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:37pm

Iran in in more fakery?


Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Islamic Republic of Iran,using small airplanes models as new mdoels in the irani air force..


Fox Video

(In this case - I don't think so)

348 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:38pm

re: #341 slokat

Look here: The Saint

I'm tempted to buy that, but it's missing quite a few episodes, there's a set 1 and set 2, but they have yet to release 30+ episodes in the archive. The UK version has them ALL but it's all in the PAL format. *cries*

349 slokat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:49pm

re: #340 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Alternative to scrolling - if the post was replied using the reply button, right click on the post number in the reply and open the original post in another tab.

350 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:20:55pm

re: #325 tommoon Thanks kindly Tom. And the same to you: doors always open for you my friend.

351 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:21:57pm

re: #343 realwest

ROTFLMAO!
Minorities and poor hardest hit.
No doubt, it's Bushes' fault.

Blame Bush(itler) ..is what they wanted to print

/sarc

352 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:22:01pm

re: #310 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

I've been a Rush fan since "Fly By Night". The greatest part of the "Fly By Night" LP is the "warning" on the cover- "For Best Results, Play This Album"!

One day two of my sisters came running downstairs and told me that I looked like that guy from Rush, Gedde Lee. I look nothing like Gedde, so I asked them to show me. They had been looking at the back of the Fly By Night album. In high school, I was practically a doppleganger of Alex.

353 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:22:48pm

re: #344 tommoon
LOL My hubby and I just got together, in person, with Sage. Wish you could join us some tune,

354 Abu Al-Poopypants  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:23:17pm

I don't understand why my post of NRO's Obama/We Are The World questions got deleted.

355 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:09pm

re: #354 Abu Al-Poopypants

I don't understand why my post of NRO's Obama/We Are The World questions got deleted.

Its formatting screwed up the code for the page

356 realwest  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:27pm

re: #345 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hey PBJ! Good to see you out here - but I'm sorta glad it's a semi-drive by on your part tonight, cause I just HAVE to go to bed and try to get some sleep now!

Goodnight all y'all - Hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road!

357 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:43pm

re: #348 baxtrice

I'm tempted to buy that, but it's missing quite a few episodes, there's a set 1 and set 2, but they have yet to release 30+ episodes in the archive. The UK version has them ALL but it's all in the PAL format. *cries*

Buy a multi-format multi-region DVD player. I find that having one is indispensable. Heck, your current DVD player may already be one with a simple remote code. Check here.

358 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:24:56pm

re: #344 tommoon

Tommoon, where have you been? You've been making yourself scarce.
You out riding that Harley?

359 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:20pm

re: #353 Pvt Bin Jammin
Huge PIMF! Now all of you lizards know I am "tuned". We want you to get together with us some "time",Tom. LOL

360 BigJohn  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:25:55pm

re: #313 LudwigVanQuixote

Thank you kindly!

Here is a question to the lizards of the night.

Shall I have a nip of the Lagavulin 16 or the Nadurra Glen Livet 18?

Jameson 12

361 Abu Al-Poopypants  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:26:05pm

re: #355 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its formatting screwed up the code for the page

Ooops, sorry. It looked OK in Firefox.

362 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:26:17pm

re: #356 realwest
Nite, Realwest, "weet dreams.

363 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:27:07pm

re: #334 realwest

I meant clinical trials - getting hooked into a clinical trial and finding some way to get it paid for...

364 baxtrice  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:28:41pm

re: #357 Lizard by the Bay

Buy a multi-format multi-region DVD player. I find that having one is indispensable. Heck, your current DVD player may already be one with a simple remote code. Check here.

Bookmarked for tomorrow. Thanks, I am now retiring to bed. Goodnight lizards. Oh and Goodnight New Lizards, be good, or the banhammer awaits...

365 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:18pm

re: #360 BigJohn

Jameson 12

Irish Whiskey is lovely too.

366 Lizard by the Bay  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:18pm

Well, the laptop battery is just about gone, so I'm signing off for the evening. G'nite all.

367 BigJohn  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:29:47pm

re: #349 slokat

Alternative to scrolling - if the post was replied using the reply button, right click on the post number in the reply and open the original post in another tab.

The learnin here never stops.

368 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:47pm

Goodnight lizards, take care all.

369 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:30:50pm

Desert Sage,

Hea, riding when I can which is most days. Did a lot of work on my sportster. It doesn't look like a sportster and that is what you are really looking for. I should send you people a picture. Pvt Bin Jammin
and you guys are getting together is great.

370 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:01pm

re: #332 wolfie

Nadurra. I'm sure she's too young for you, but Lagavulin is illegal.

lol

371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:29pm

re: #345 Pvt Bin Jammin

You're fun. Glad you finally got registered. It took me forever, even though I was a long time lurker. LOL I just recently had my first anniversary here on LGF.

I was registering a couple weeks ago, and by the time I finally decided on my nic and clicked to register, it has closed. I was not a happy camper! But then again, it took me about 8 minutes to figure out what to call myself (that wouldn't get be banned while registering, which would have undoubtedly have been a record).

372 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:31:52pm

re: #315 Killian Bundy

Just in case you missed it from the last thread . . .

Struggling In Ohio As The Economy Tightens

/okay, what's wrong with this picture?

they should have used a wide angle lens?

/old news

373 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:08pm

re: #331 redc1c4

yes..... several fingers of each.

/i'll take the rest %-)

A fellow lizard is always welcome at my table, but I'll fight you if you take more than half!

374 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:24pm
You out riding that Harley?

Huh? What?

Someone mention riding? I'm in.

Oh, real bikes. No, that's alright. I'd only embarass ya.

the fever for a real bike grows

375 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:25pm

Okay. Now I understand. The scales have fallen from my eyes.
No wonder the MSM is in the tank for him...it's a bunch of very spiritual people....
(warning: will induce toilet-hugging bouts of nausea unless you prepare)

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

376 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:27pm

re: #345 Pvt Bin Jammin

You're fun. Glad you finally got registered. It took me forever, even though I was a long time lurker. LOL I just recently had my first anniversary here on LGF.

I was a lurker for almost 2 years!

377 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:32:44pm

re: #369 tommoon

OK, and I'll send you a picture of my bike too.

378 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:33:46pm

re: #371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil
Glad you are finally here. It took me forever as well.

379 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:21pm

re: #349 slokat

Alternative to scrolling - if the post was replied using the reply button, right click on the post number in the reply and open the original post in another tab.

Cool! Thank you!

380 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:45pm

re: #368 Pvt Bin Jammin

Goodnight lizards, take care all.

Cya later!

381 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:34:55pm

re: #377 DesertSage

Don't I get to see it? :(

382 slokat  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:08pm

re: #367 BigJohn

...and depending on your browser and it's settings; left clicking on the post number should automatically open another tab/window.

But, only works if the post number was put there using the reply (or quote) function, not if it was cut & pasted...

383 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:18pm

re: #373 LudwigVanQuixote

A fellow lizard is always welcome at my table, but I'll fight you if you take more than half!

2 or 3 bottles should do it for the evening....

(you were talking "half a case", right? %-)

/white smoke

384 freetoken  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:32pm

re: #304 baxtrice

I'm a Roger Moore fan who came to be a 007 fan, there used to be this show called "The Saint" in the early sixties,

Hey.....

A very 60's type of show... I enjoyed watching it.

385 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:35:39pm

re: #266 karmic_inquisitor


"In general I have to say I was a bit disappointed," Kliegl said. "The coverage of the primaries created this impression that he was an amazing speaker who could carry away his audience. He didn't do that tonight. I really expected more."

Dear Germans,

By now you may have realized that you have been crassly manipulated by unseen forces attempting to re-make a foolish college student into a JFK with brown skin.

Welcome to reality. Come for the debate, stay for the laughs, try not to cry too much when you find yourself broke and lied to.

All The Best,

The Voiceless Unbelievers

386 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:09pm

re: #378 Pvt Bin Jammin

Glad you are finally here. It took me forever as well.

And thanks for the compliment!

387 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:36:37pm

re: #371 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Welcome. Love the nick. You sure are a Chatty Cathy for your first day.

This goes out to all you wild cards out there who want to be an ace like me.

I figure Ozark will catch the reference.

388 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:37:27pm

re: #381 Sharmuta

Don't I get to see it? :(

Yes you do.
[Link: i282.photobucket.com...]

389 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:22pm

DesertSage,

Email me. There is a few other things I want to do, better seat and a better footrest, but I'm gettin there. One day I'm shipping that girls to Cali and riding it home to Texas.

390 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:38:53pm

re: #375 tradewind

Okay. Now I understand. The scales have fallen from my eyes.
No wonder the MSM is in the tank for him...it's a bunch of very spiritual people....
(warning: will induce toilet-hugging bouts of nausea unless you prepare)

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

UGH! That's just NASTY! I'm talking 2girls1cup nasty! GAH! I know you warned us but SHEESH!

391 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:14pm

Hallelujah.
I get it now......
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

392 BigJohn  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:39:40pm

re: #382 slokat

Thank you.

393 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:40:11pm

(Sorry.... Charles please delete repeat comment #391)

394 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:04pm

re: #375 tradewind

Okay. Now I understand. The scales have fallen from my eyes.
No wonder the MSM is in the tank for him...it's a bunch of very spiritual people....
(warning: will induce toilet-hugging bouts of nausea unless you prepare)

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

I think I threw up in my mouth.

395 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:07pm

Just checking out my new avatar.

396 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:30pm

re: #390 RememberSekhmet?
You were warned...
Still, maybe I should have had any one who clicked sign a disclaimer......

397 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:41:33pm

DesertSage,

That your bike? OK, for you that is acceptable. At one time I did ride a Yamaha Enduro birt bike and loved it.

398 Dustyvet  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:07pm

re: #2 LudwigVanQuixote

Does anyone have a good joke?


Expensive

When I got home last night, my wife demanded that I take her someplace
expensive.... so, I took her to a gas station.....

and then the fight started....

retiring

After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply for Social Security. The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver's license to verify my age. I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at home. I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have to go home and come back later. The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'. So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair.
She said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me' and she processed my Social Security application. When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at the Social Security office.
She said, 'You should have dropped your pants. You might have gotten disability, too'

And then the fight started.....


I rear-ended a car this morning. So there we are, alongside the road and slowly the driver gets out of the car.

And you know how you just get s-o-o-o-o stressed out and stuff seems to get funny? Yeah, well, I could NOT believe it ... he was a DWARF!

He storms over to my car, looks up at me and says, "I AM NOT HAPPY!" So, I look down at him and say, "Well, which one are you then?"

.... And that's when the fight started!

399 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:23pm

re: #388 DesertSage

So when do I get a ride?

400 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:42:46pm

re: #395 DesertSage

That should show "Obama" behind the internationally recognized, "No" symbol. Otherwise, it looks like BHO rises above it. Is there another one?

401 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:43:10pm

re: #394 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Only in your mouth?
There's hardly a large enough toilet.
That gives new meaning to ' gag me with a spoon'.
More like ' gag me with their swoon'.

402 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:09pm

re: #391 tradewind

Hallelujah.
I get it now......
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

"Thence he travelled west to Mount Sarkozy"

I really have no desire to see Obama mount Sarkozy.

403 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:22pm

re: #397 tommoon

DesertSage,

That your bike? OK, for you that is acceptable. At one time I did ride a Yamaha Enduro birt bike and loved it.

Yep, that's the one. Desert racing is what I do.

404 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:44:43pm

re: #399 Sharmuta

So when do I get a ride?

When are you coming to CA?

405 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:31pm

re: #400 Noam Sayin'

That should show "Obama" behind the internationally recognized, "No" symbol. Otherwise, it looks like BHO rises above it. Is there another one?

I'm gonna try a different one. That one is a little fuzzy.

406 tradewind  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:45:43pm

re: #402 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It's a good thing I have this neat little keyboard/ screen silicone thingy, that's all....

:)

407 LeePro  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:46:21pm

re: #349 slokat

Alternative to scrolling - if the post was replied using the reply button, right click on the post number in the reply and open the original post in another tab.

Don't have to right click... just plain ol' click opens it in new window/tab.

/bowing/scraping not required --- learrned that by accident, myself
;)

408 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:09pm

Crap.....can't see this one either.

409 Abu Al-Poopypants  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:30pm

Lileks has a rather lengthy "Bleat" posting about BHO's 'citizen of the world' crap and his blaming Boston motorists for African droughts.

410 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:48:54pm

re: #405 DesertSage

Maybe you could find a graphic of the "Nobama" bumper sticker.

He won't win. Even among the Democrat party, there are far too many people who don't trust the guy. Some of my liberal (socialist) friends have expressed dissatisfaction with the DNC's choice - unless they mount a major coup and nominate Hillary in August.

411 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:00pm

re: #405 DesertSage

I'm gonna try a different one. That one is a little fuzzy.

I love the avatar you have now.
I will miss it.
sniff

412 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:03pm

re: #408 DesertSage

I see it- don't forget to refresh &/or clear your cashe.

413 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:49pm

re: #408 DesertSage

Crap.....can't see this one either.

That one's perfect!

414 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:49:53pm

DesertSage,

Have you ever packed up for a few days and just rode off into the desert. My dream is to ride my bike from California to Texas with nothing but a sleeping bag. Take the old Route 66 highway. Just keeping bottle of Patron in my saddlebag.

415 Sharmuta  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:52:26pm

re: #413 Noam Sayin'

I like your's- it's cute.

416 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:52:59pm

re: #411 wolfie

I love the avatar you have now.
I will miss it.
sniff

You mean the dog? It will come back after the election.

417 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:55:54pm

re: #398 Dustyvet

Expensive

When I got home last night, my wife demanded that I take her someplace
expensive.... so, I took her to a gas station.....

and then the fight started....

retiring

After retiring, I went to the Social Security office to apply for Social Security. The woman behind the counter asked me for my driver's license to verify my age. I looked in my pockets and realized I had left my wallet at home. I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have to go home and come back later. The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'. So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair.
She said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me' and she processed my Social Security application. When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my experience at the Social Security office.
She said, 'You should have dropped your pants. You might have gotten disability, too'

And then the fight started.....


I rear-ended a car this morning. So there we are, alongside the road and slowly the driver gets out of the car.

And you know how you just get s-o-o-o-o stressed out and stuff seems to get funny? Yeah, well, I could NOT believe it ... he was a DWARF!

He storms over to my car, looks up at me and says, "I AM NOT HAPPY!" So, I look down at him and say, "Well, which one are you then?"

.... And that's when the fight started!

ROFLMAO

418 freedombilly  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:56:23pm

I've had two flights canceled today and am stuck in Denver for the night. Obama said anything extra stupid the last 12 hours? I've been out of touch.

419 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:57:00pm

Trying to decide. Will this band of showers reach the Twin Cities when I need to make my commute to work?

I can play it close. If it's on the outer suburbs, I can probably beat it to St. Paul. Then I'll count on weather clearing for the drive home.

... or get wet.

Either way, I'm riding to work if I have a window.

420 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:57:52pm

re: #418 freedombilly

Obama said anything extra stupid the last 12 hours? blockquote>

You've got no idea.

421 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:58:22pm

re: #414 tommoon

DesertSage,

Have you ever packed up for a few days and just rode off into the desert. My dream is to ride my bike from California to Texas with nothing but a sleeping bag. Take the old Route 66 highway. Just keeping bottle of Patron in my saddlebag.

Yeah, that's kinda what we do on the dual-sport rides I go on. We do a lot of camping where we just pack everything in on the bikes. We're pretty self sufficient, we bring tools, spare inner tubes, food, water and first aid kits.
Now we all have cell phones, so we're kinda spoiled. And a lot of the guys have GPS so we never get lost.

422 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 10:59:09pm

re: #416 DesertSage

Oh good. I'm glad.
Maybe...I hope...my appetite will come back after the election too.
Obamania is making me ill.

423 Marvo76  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:00:54pm

re: #315 Killian Bundy

Just in case you missed it from the last thread . . .

Struggling In Ohio As The Economy Tightens


/okay, what's wrong with this picture?

Uhm.....The Hispanics have to eat beans like the rest of us?

424 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:02:13pm

night folks. weet dreams

425 least  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:02:22pm

re: #306 So?

So . . . you're saying that if one says something that is totally unverifiable, you've got huevos? Troofers and all sorts of . . . interesting folks have 'em, too.
Interesting logic.

426 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:03:23pm

re: #337 yochanan

second row third from the left looks like one of mine from that age.

And they grow up soooo fast! He is in the front row, sitting on the floor. How they ever got that photo with so many squirmy little ones? I am astounded!

Bli ayin hara, he will be 2 in almost 5 more weeks. Where it went? Not a clue! Our family is not frum, but that Chabad Gan is just wonderful. He hates to go home! He is also at their day camp, most of which is indoors. Daughter and son in law are thrilled with the activities, and how much attention each child is given. 2 weeks ago, they all made individual challas for Shabbat. I have a photo of him with it, and with the one daughter bought in a bakery on the way to Gan...she didn't know they were making them..she went into the kitchen just before we got there for a Shabbat dinner, and he was riding his trike..he had taken each challah, held it like a a hero sandwich, and took a big bite out of it, right in the center, then did it to the other one. The photos are hilarious! She had forgotten to keep them out of sight from this food thief.

Yipes! After 2 AM..g'night, all! Sweet dreams.

427 redc1c4  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:03:24pm

re: #421 DesertSage

Yeah, that's kinda what we do on the dual-sport rides I go on. We do a lot of camping where we just pack everything in on the bikes. We're pretty self sufficient, we bring tools, spare inner tubes, food, water and first aid kits.
Now we all have cell phones, so we're kinda spoiled. And a lot of the guys have GPS so we never get lost.

do you ADV?

428 LudwigVanQuixote  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:03:55pm

re: #375 tradewind

Okay. Now I understand. The scales have fallen from my eyes.
No wonder the MSM is in the tank for him...it's a bunch of very spiritual people....
(warning: will induce toilet-hugging bouts of nausea unless you prepare)

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Wow... Wow... Wow... I think that is the first time I ever uttered the word blasphemy when reading something. It is actually insanely offensive if you believe at all. I mean there are so many layers to what is wrong with that.

That is astonishing. I have a very hard time believing that ever made print. I mean I shouldn't be surprised given the source...

429 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:04:23pm

re: #418 freedombilly

I've had two flights canceled today and am stuck in Denver for the night. Obama said anything extra stupid the last 12 hours? I've been out of touch.

If you didn't catch his Berlin speech, go back a few threads for the text and media coverage. On second thought, why not run a hot shower all night long and see if the wall paper in the motel bathroom peels? That would be more interesting and much less nauseating.

430 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:04:39pm

DesertSage,

The main thing is you are getting out into nature and most people do not do that anymore. I really miss that here in Honolulu. You eventually run out of places to go and things to see. What you do sounds great.

431 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:05:17pm

re: #427 redc1c4

do you ADV?

Sometimes.

You'll find me more often on TT.

432 Marvo76  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:05:31pm

re: #342 Syrah

It will be interesting indeed.

The more that polarizing Islam becomes in the political discourse, the more likely I think we are to see some shifts in the old patterns.

In what way?

433 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:07:08pm

re: #422 wolfie

Obamania is making me ill.

Welcome to the club...wish we weren't in it to begin with. But Hussein is such a lightweight, he may very well blow away, like a piece of dust.

Compañeros de lo mismo dolor...

434 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:07:16pm

re: #430 tommoon

You can come too, but think the terrain gets too tough for a Harley. Even a sportster.

435 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:10:19pm

Here's my Sporty. It's a commercial pic. I've tricked mine out a little more than the one shown in my link. Harleys rock!

436 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:10:49pm

re: #433 NY Nana

Seguro que si !

I just can't believe how the press is shilling for him so openly, so flagrantly. There isn't even a pretense of objectivity anymore.
I pray there will be a backlash among the voters.

437 Boogberg  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:11:41pm
438 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:12:42pm

DesertSage,

I've thought of going back to Vietnam and riding QL 1 one more time from Saigon to Da Nang. That would be a great ride and very dangerous one. In Vietnam they all drive like your crazy aunt, it's everyone for themselves. But the scenery would be great. I've gone back twice and each time I thought I could ride. It would probably be a Russian Minsk, but I think I could do it.

439 freedombilly  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:13:56pm

re: #429 wolfie

Thank you for making me laugh after a long, frustrating travel day!

I have heard a couple of soundbites. Just the fact that he is gave a speech from Germany is nauseating enough. I will check out the entire speech sometime tomorrow because of a sick curiosity.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this guy would be hilarious if he wasn't so damn scary.

440 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:14:29pm

re: #436 wolfie

Nice thing is we still have our economic vote - we can choose not to buy the NYT or watch MSNBC. And we are making that choice in droves - see readership of the Times and watchership of MSNBC. Is watchership a word?

441 freedombilly  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:15:27pm

re: #440 cliffster

Is watchership a word?

It is now!

442 lizardbennet  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:16:54pm

re: #375 tradewind

Okay. Now I understand. The scales have fallen from my eyes.
No wonder the MSM is in the tank for him...it's a bunch of very spiritual people....
(warning: will induce toilet-hugging bouts of nausea unless you prepare)

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

This has got to be some kind of satirical joke, right? This can't be for real.

443 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:17:56pm

re: #440 cliffster

Is watchership a word?

It should be ! :)

444 DesertSage  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:18:13pm

re: #438 tommoon

Be careful if you go there, although it does sound like fun.

Or, come to the western US, and see vistas like this.

445 freedombilly  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:18:24pm

re: #414 tommoon

DesertSage,

Have you ever packed up for a few days and just rode off into the desert. My dream is to ride my bike from California to Texas with nothing but a sleeping bag. Take the old Route 66 highway. Just keeping bottle of Patron in my saddlebag.

Silver, Reposado, or Anejo?

446 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:19:27pm

re: #436 wolfie

I pray there will be a backlash among the voters.

I'm confident about it. The one thing Americans do not like is to be railroaded into something. We must remember that we're finely tuned to the political environment, much like our cohorts (enemies of freedom) on the left. We see the drama unfold on a daily basis, so we naturally react in accordance to our inputs.

Most people haven't even paid attention to the campaigns, yet.

On a bright note, an acquaintance of mine asked her son what he wanted for his 19th birthday. He asked for and received the book, "Liberal Fascism."

She's a music teacher, and has been involved and employed solely in the arts her entire life.
-Smalltown, USA

Most Americans don't buy Obama's bullshit. Once the media lays off their adulation - and they will - clearer heads will prevail.

447 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:19:49pm

freedombilly

Only silver, I sip it like a rare wine.

448 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:20:53pm

re: #432 Marvo76

In what way?

Just a thought before I turn in, but you sound an awful lot like a disciple of Cognito.

449 LeePro  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:20:53pm

re: #425 least

So . . . you're saying that if one says something that is totally unverifiable, you've got huevos? Troofers and all sorts of . . . interesting folks have 'em, too.
Interesting logic.

...you've got huevos...?

Over-easy or scrambled? You want some bacon or sausage with that?

450 thelongblogger  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:21:42pm

re: #442 lizardbennet

This has got to be some kind of satirical joke, right? This can't be for real.

Satire is correct: Gerrard Baker is no friend of Obama.

451 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:25:02pm

re: #436 wolfie

Seguro que si !

I just can't believe how the press is shilling for him so openly, so flagrantly. There isn't even a pretense of objectivity anymore.
I pray there will be a backlash among the voters.

Ah, he olvidado que tu hablas español!

I agree with every word you said. I think that the backlash is already in motion, as some people have the blinders off their eyes, and the MSM are actually turning against him, which is great!

Some lizards do not find this funny..to me, it is just brilliant, and I was choking here, ROTFL, at this hour! I sent it off to a bunch of people.

Muy buenas noches...que te duermes bien...

Look at the comments....either it really is spot on, or I have spent too much time in the UK, and have too many English relatives and friends! ;)

452 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:25:58pm

re: #449 LeePro

Hello, goodnight, Lee! ;)

453 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:28:28pm

re: #387 Noam Sayin'

Welcome. Love the nick. You sure are a Chatty Cathy for your first day.

This goes out to all you wild cards out there who want to be an ace like me.

I figure Ozark will catch the reference.

Nope, not at all. And chatty "Cathy"? Are you implying something?

454 cliffster  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:28:47pm

re: #451 NY Nana

It's funny, but so close to reality that it's a sort've shifty and uncomfortable funny.

455 tommoon  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:29:11pm

DesertSage,

I'll get that way someday soon I hope. It would be great to do a ride with you Sage. I really need to get here more often it does me good to met great people. Specially old friends. Time to find that Patron Silver I left somewhere. I've wrote here before after a few shots, but it wasn't my best use of the written word. Good night.

456 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:29:27pm

re: #446 Noam Sayin'

I'm something of a pessimist, but your take on this makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing it.

On that positive note, I think I will try to get some sleep now!
Goodnight to all!

457 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:29:52pm

But first, a joke:

A scene at City Hall in San Francisco.........

"Next."

"Good morning. We want to apply for a marriage license."

"Names?"

"Tim and Jim Jones."

"Jones? Are you related? I see a resemblance."

"Yes, we're brothers."

"Brothers? You can't get married."

"Why not? Aren't you giving marriage licenses to same gender couples?"

"Yes, thousands. But we haven't had any siblings. That's incest!"

"Incest?" No, we are not gay."

"Not gay? Then why do you want to get married?"

"For the financial benefits, of course. And we do love each other.
Besides, we don't have any other prospects."

"But we're issuing marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples who've
been denied equal protection under the law. If you are not gay, you can
get married to a woman."

"Wait a minute. A gay man has the same right to marry a woman as I have.
But just because I'm straight doesn't mean I want to marry a woman. I
want to marry Jim."

"And I want to marry Tim, Are you going to discriminate against us just
because we are not gay?"

"All right, all right. I'll give you your license. Next."

"Hi. We are here to get married."

"Names?"

"John Smith, Jane James, Robert Green, and June Johnson."

"Who wants to marry whom?"

"We all want to marry each other."

"But there are four of you!"

"That's right. You see, we're all bisexual. I love Jane and Robert, Jane
loves me and June, June loves Robert and Jane, and Robert loves June and
me. All of us getting married together is the only way that we can
express our sexual preferences in a marital relationship."

"But we've only been granting licenses to gay and lesbian couples."

"So you're discriminating against bisexuals!"

"No, it's just that, well, the traditional idea of marriage is that it's
just for couples."

"Since when are you standing on tradition?"

"Well, I mean, you have to draw the line somewhere."

"Who says? There's no logical reason to limit marriage to couples. The
more the better. Besides, we demand our rights! The mayor says the
constitution guarantees equal protection under the law. Give us a
marriage license!"

"All right, all right. Next."

"Hello, I'd like a marriage license."

"In what names?"

"David Deets."

"And the other man?"

"That's all. I want to marry myself."

"Marry yourself? What do you mean?"

"Well, my psychiatrist says I have a dual personality, so I want to
marry the two together. Maybe I can file a joint income-tax return."

"That does it! I quit! You people are making a mockery of marriage!"

458 lizardbennet  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:30:17pm

re: #450 thelongblogger

That's a relief.....the fact that I even had to ask must mean it's time for bed. Nite Lizards...

459 Cartman  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:30:42pm

Dead of the evening, so I think I'll bid adieu. Weet dreams to all nocturnal scaly ones.

460 LeePro  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:32:25pm

re: #428 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #375 tradewind

Okay. Now I understand. The scales have fallen from my eyes.
No wonder the MSM is in the tank for him...it's a bunch of very spiritual people....
(warning: will induce toilet-hugging bouts of nausea unless you prepare)

[Link: [Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]...]


Wow... Wow... Wow... I think that is the first time I ever uttered the word blasphemy when reading something. It is actually insanely offensive if you believe at all. I mean there are so many layers to what is wrong with that.

That is astonishing. I have a very hard time believing that ever made print. I mean I shouldn't be surprised given the source...

OK, folks... wait,wait,wait...

I saw that more as an utterly and completely sarcastic take on the way the rest of the media (but not this writer) are falling all over themselves for B.O.

461 wolfie  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:33:05pm

re: #451 NY Nana

Goodnight, Nana !

Gerrard Baker: Makes me think of the maxim "One horse laugh is worth a thousand syllogisms." :D

462 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:36:02pm

I get the distinct impression that Charles is right - Obama doesn't actually know history. You get the feeling from his speech that he spent part of Wedensday evening reading about the Berlin Airlift on Wikipedia to prepare.

If you ass-u-me that his media people are ignorat ACORN types like he is suspected to be, you figure the strateegery went like this:

1. Some of his internet-connected college interns see that Germans are calling him Ze Bleck Che-Eff-Kay.

2. Intern to Media Manager in a meeting: "Hey, JFK totally gave a speech in Germany once, like, back in the 50's or something. We should do the same thing." Media Manager (probably a hard-charging, irritating woman in her 40's with an ivy-league degree in something irrelevant to modern hard work) says "Brilliant, let's get right on it!"

3. Media team concocts hopey, changey feel-good speech talking points. Peace Love Unity Respect, pacifiers and ecstasy for everybody, mix in references to a few news items and some sugary historical stuff that only those Rethuglicans on blogs will actually fact-check, and poof, we have Black JFK! All that's left is to buy plane tickets and offer the networks access...

It's as easy as one-two-three, Shake-and-Bake candidacy. McCain who?

463 LeePro  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:38:06pm

re: #452 NY Nana

Hello, goodnight, Lee! ;)

{ { {Nana} } }

464 LeePro  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:44:04pm

re: #457 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

ROTFLMAO!

You've won my heart forever, Ozark!

Are you close enough to Memphis to join us at the "River Lizards" meet-up this Saturday?

465 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:44:33pm

Just testing my avatar, seeing if it shows, sorry.

466 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:48:47pm

re: #464 LeePro

ROTFLMAO!

You've won my heart forever, Ozark!

Are you close enough to Memphis to join us at the "River Lizards" meet-up this Saturday?

Sorry, can't make it. With more notice I might have been able to (not your fault obviously), but since I was just "hatched", no way I can make it. But I appreciate the offer! :)

467 Metal Man  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:51:45pm

re: #465 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Don't be sorry. Hurts like hell to see those images but it will be worse if we forget.

468 Canadastani  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:57:20pm

Fun stuff from the link viewer:
Barack Obama - the Dot Com Bubble Candidate

A candidate who will meet the tyrants of the world without any preconditions but will not meet Fox News under any conditions hurts himself.

469 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:57:28pm

re: #467 Metal Man

Don't be sorry. Hurts like hell to see those images but it will be worse if we forget.

I meant sorry I couldn't make to the get-together in Memphis. My avatar has been on all my computers since about a week after 9-11, and it will never change. NEVER. Until they are defeated.

470 LeePro  Thu, Jul 24, 2008 11:59:26pm

re: #466 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Sorry, can't make it. With more notice I might have been able to (not your fault obviously), but since I was just "hatched", no way I can make it. But I appreciate the offer! :)

You close enough to make another maybe in August? One of our beloved lizards, 'gop_patriot,' a former Memphian who now lives in Hot Springs comes to Memphis a lot.

Where are you?

471 YankeeBoy  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:00:58am

Morning folks.

472 Metal Man  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:01:44am

re: #469 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Looked at the avatar and had to respond that it was important. Responded to the image not the words oops.

473 LeePro  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:10:34am

Re-post on the Vermont Cable/Al Jazeera thread from yesterday. Not all of Vermont, only Burlington!

¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

G'nite, y'all.
;)

Memphis Lizard meet-up, 5:00pm Saturday, Ruby Tuesday's at Wolfchase Mall.

474 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:12:05am

re: #468 Canadastani

Fun stuff from the link viewer:
Barack Obama - the Dot Com Bubble Candidate

A candidate who will meet the tyrants of the world without any preconditions but will not meet Fox News under any conditions hurts himself.

Fox News will hurt him, I agree, but....Lightweight lib Katie Couric, after asking the messiah three times if he'd now support the obviously successful troop surge he voted against, made Obambi hemm and haw and get extremely irritated before answering he still wouldn't, even knowing what he knows today.
But because she had the nerve to ask him a substantive question, he'll be even more reticent to answer real questions.

475 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:14:43am

re: #472 Metal Man

Looked at the avatar and had to respond that it was important. Responded to the image not the words oops.

No problem, Metal Man....We're all human, unless your first name is Barack and your last name is Obama. That would make you a deity. :)

476 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:17:09am

re: #470 LeePro

You close enough to make another maybe in August? One of our beloved lizards, 'gop_patriot,' a former Memphian who now lives in Hot Springs comes to Memphis a lot.

Where are you?

Springfield, MO, about 496 miles from Memphis. I do love Beale street and the St. Patrick's day pub crawl, though!

477 Cognito  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:20:40am

re: #448 Noam Sayin'

Just a thought before I turn in, but you sound an awful lot like a disciple of Cognito.

I am but a humble boy from a small town. With only a few disciples. ;)

478 Dustyvet  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:21:46am

Dearborn: Two Muslim women sue McDonalds for $10 million for not hiring them over Islamic attire

Fast food restaurants have employee dress codes not only for appearances, but for hygiene and safety. With that in mind, this case is sounding a lot like the case of the women wanting to wear Islamic attire in a Midwestern tortilla factory. The local health inspector isn't going to take kindly to long sleeves potentially brushing perishable food, and/or the grill and fryer oil, to say nothing of guidelines for hand-washing (see also: the debate over short sleeves in British hospitals). Then there is the matter of long attire and the potential need to make a quick exit in the event of a fire or robbery.

There are many functional reasons for demanding standardized attire, but there is also the matter of allowing special treatment for a small part of the work force. And would the uniform issue be the end of the demands for accommodation? For example, would these women refuse to make a burger with bacon?

"Two Muslim women sue McDonald's, alleging discrimination," by Gregg Krupa for the Detroit News, July 24:

DEARBORN -- Two Muslim women say that a McDonald's restaurant refused to hire them, and insulted them during job interviews because they wear traditional Islamic dress.

Toi Whitfield, 20, of Detroit and Quiana Pugh, 25, of Dearborn sued McDonald's, the owner of the local franchise and its unidentified manager in Wayne County Circuit Court on Thursday. Their representative said they are considering filing civil rights complaints with the federal and state governments.

"I applied for the McDonald's position maybe two weeks ago and he simply (told me) I had to make a choice and remove my hijab, or I would not be able to establish employment there," Pugh said.

"When I walked away, I was definitely hurt by it and disturbed. I was confused that it could happen here in Dearborn, with so many Muslims," she said.

A man who would not identify himself at the restaurant, on Ford Road near Schaefer, referred all questions to representatives for McDonald's. "We're just trying to figure out what is going on," he said.

The man said the manager in question at the restaurant would not have a comment.

The women are seeking $10 million in a suit.

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

479 Canadastani  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:23:04am

re: #474 Ozark Mountain Daredevil

Totally agree - that's part of what the article gets into. Obama hurts himself by not engaging in difficult interviews because it either means all he cares about is talking about what he wants to talk about (staying on-message) or he is out of his depth talking about things. Neither reflects well on him.
The blog goes on to state that the only (public) people who knew him before he was famous are a crook, two racist priests, and a terrorist (oh, and his wife).

480 Cognito  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:28:09am

re: #478 Dustyvet

I think the time really has come for the advent of my Religion of Halloween Masks.

Rise, my disciples. Rise and don your Spiderman disguise. Your Nixonian visage. Your ghosty cover. And let not the fast-food managers, bank tellers or departments of motor vehicles intimidate, humiliate or ridiculate you or your bretheren.

Rise.

481 Ozark Mountain Daredevil  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:29:24am

re: #479 Canadastani

Totally agree - that's part of what the article gets into. Obama hurts himself by not engaging in difficult interviews because it either means all he cares about is talking about what he wants to talk about (staying on-message) or he is out of his depth talking about things. Neither reflects well on him.
The blog goes on to state that the only (public) people who knew him before he was famous are a crook, two racist priests, and a terrorist (oh, and his wife).

LOL! Very true!

482 freetoken  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:39:15am

I posted a link in the Spin-offs about Thursday's action by Libya to cut off oil exports to Switzerland (and Libya supplies about 20% of the crude oil imports of the Swiss.)

However, the background story on the cause is from last week:

Investigating magistrate Michel-Alexandre Graber charged the couple [Hannibal G. and wife] after a Tunisian woman and a Moroccan man employed as their domestic servants filed formal complaints of mistreatment, Assael said.

Their lawyer, Francois Membrez, said they had been "sequestered, beaten, exploited and insulted".

Gaddafi's daughter-in-law came to the lakeside city two weeks ago to give birth in a private Swiss clinic.

A conviction for bodily injury carries a prison term of up to three years and a fine in Switzerland.

The case has caused embarrassment in Switzerland, especially as Libya is its main energy supplier.

The Swiss foreign ministry has declined comment but Swiss newspapers have reported that Libyan authorities put heavy pressure on their Swiss counterparts over the case, but were told the Swiss judiciary is independent.

483 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:48:09am

Some Debussy for the nice fruit cup lady. very pretty.

484 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 12:56:28am

re: #483 Boogberg

OHHHHHHHH! The "nice fruit cup lady" thanks you very much! :-)

485 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:07:18am

re: #315 Killian Bundy

Just in case you missed it from the last thread . . .

Struggling In Ohio As The Economy Tightens

/okay, what's wrong with this picture?

they should have used a wide angle lens?

/old news

486 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:12:18am

Killian,

Have you been on vacation?

487 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:15:28am

re: #482 freetoken

Libya can cut off direct shipments to the Switzerland but that's unimportant. Libya needs to sell to someone or they starve. That some one is likely either BP or Exxon. BP/Exxon will then turn around and sell it to the Swiss at a minimal profit. Switzerland is in no danger of running out of oil. Hence your secret swiss bank account is no danger.

488 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:17:29am

re: #485 redc1c4

that may be a crappy server repeat poast.....

/gotta convince HRH to make the change.

Drink!

489 yma o hyd  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:18:09am

Heh.
Another huge loss to NuLabour, this time in Scotland.
Now the by-election was for the Scottish parliament, not for Westminster, and the winner was the Scottish Nationalist Party, but the point is that in a seat in Glasgow, which was Labour through and through, their majority of over 13.000 votes was overturned.

Another indicator that Great Britain will shake off the shackles of Labour Stalinism and Political Correctness, that we will return to common sense and will indeed get to grips with creeping Islamisation.

Things are looking up!

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

490 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:18:11am

re: #487 Neo Con since 9-11

Libya can cut off direct shipments to the Switzerland but that's unimportant. Libya needs to sell to someone or they starve. That some one is likely either BP or Exxon. BP/Exxon will then turn around and sell it to the Swiss at a minimal profit. Switzerland is in no danger of running out of oil. Hence your secret swiss bank account is no danger.

unless the Swiss Navy sets up a blockade in retaliation.....

491 yma o hyd  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:19:34am

re: #490 redc1c4

unless the Swiss Navy sets up a blockade in retaliation.....

And why not!
After all - the Swiss won the America Cup ...

492 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:21:01am

Swiss navy?

Funny as all get-out spinoff link from "thelongblogger"

/must.keep.sense.of.humor....

493 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:22:11am

well, if Obanal is a "lightw*rker" (and not just a lightweight), he's got the aging retired pr0n star demographic locked.....

/"G" rated, btw.....

494 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:23:18am

re: #492 littleoldlady

Swiss navy?

Funny as all get-out spinoff link from "thelongblogger"

/must.keep.sense.of.humor....

poasted here earlier: not everyone has the same sarcasm/irony detection values set.

/i LMFAO

495 freetoken  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:23:36am

re: #487 Neo Con since 9-11

I'm not too concerned about my now not-so-secret Swiss bank account...

However, I did find the story ironic on many counts - Gaddafi's daughter-in-law going to Switzerland to birth instead of making avail of the health care facilities in Libya.... and that the story on "Hannibal" G. is running parallel with the one about Italy making restitution to Libya as brokered by yet another offspring of Gaddafi.

496 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:24:15am

re: #490 redc1c4

The Swiss don't need to do anything in retaliation. If Libya cuts off the crude to Switzerland, Libya will need to sell more to Germany or France to stay alive. All Switzerland needs to do is buy that excess crude from France and Germany

497 Dustyvet  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:26:31am

re: #492 littleoldlady

Swiss navy?

Funny as all get-out spinoff link from "thelongblogger"

/must.keep.sense.of.humor....


[Link: www.beautyhabit.com...]

498 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:27:35am

re: #497 Dustyvet

BWHAHA! :-)

499 freetoken  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:28:18am

re: #492 littleoldlady

Funny as all get-out spinoff link from "thelongblogger"

In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.

Got to love the Brits and the use of their language...

500 Dustyvet  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:28:47am

re: #497 Dustyvet

[Link: www.beautyhabit.com...]

Swiss Navy Shipyard...:)


[Link: i.pbase.com...]

501 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:30:24am

re: #495 freetoken

I've been following this for a couple days and I found none of it ironic. What I found disturbing is that Hannibal thought he could treat his servants like slaves in France, formerly a part of Europe.
/Link provided for humor purposes only

502 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:31:59am

The Swiss should elect Obama as...what have they got over there? King? Prime Minister? Messiah-in-Chief?

He'll talk Kaddafi into behaving...

503 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:37:57am

a possible theme song for Obanal's campaign.....

the concert last night was awesome.

/even Bill Engval would agree

504 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:40:50am

re: #484 littleoldlady

OHHHHHHHH! The "nice fruit cup lady" thanks you very much! :-)

Lol! You know, there's got to be some young lizards who have no idea what fruit cup is. They've probably never heard of Mel Brooks either. :D

505 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:41:52am

morning

506 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:43:54am

re: #504 Boogberg

Yup! Being young is highly overrated.

/and I'm a big fat liar...

507 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:44:14am

Jewels! :-)

508 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:45:51am

Morning all, dropping in for the nightly fruitcup.

509 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:47:40am

BlueCanuck! :-)

What do you think we'll have to pay Europe to keep Obama?

510 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:48:44am

re: #509 littleoldlady

BlueCanuck! :-)

What do you think we'll have to pay Europe to keep Obama?

Good question. A promise to stop "interfering" with their politics? :)

511 Karridine  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:50:23am

"... and SO, Colonel Gad-daffy, America REALLY wants you to stop that stuff. Really."

Really, really?

"Really really."

Bwahahaha! Get outta here, Punk! I'm Gad-daffy, I'm a MUSLIM and I'm supreme dictator! I do whatever I WANT, you sniveling PUNK!

"But..."

Buzz off, Flake! You naive twit!

"I thought-"

No you didn't! You NEVER thought, Obama, you FELT! So feel THIS! *smack*

"Owww... secret service, help, oh help!" *whimper*

512 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:50:43am

Morning LOL

Been home ill the last day or so. gonna need to call office again this morning and let them know

513 Karridine  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:52:05am

The office doesn't deserve one as decent as you, Jules!

/hate to, but I gotta run. Son's calling!

514 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:55:00am

re: #511 Karridine

Karridine! :-)

There. You see? We already know the drill.

/I can haz virtual Obama?
//The real thing is too scary to contemplate...

515 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:55:25am

Poor Jewels! Hope you feel better soon...

516 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:56:00am

Note to self, warm booze and warm mix qualifies as "good training".

/damn it where did I put those ice trays.

517 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:56:52am

and the fawning never stops.......

518 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:56:57am

re: #506 littleoldlady

Yup! Being young is highly overrated.

/and I'm a big fat liar...

I just wish I had my old brain and my young bones. If there is a God, He's (yes, HE's) a mean son of a bitch. No woman could be that cruel. :D

519 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:58:14am

re: #516 BlueCanuck

Note to self, warm booze and warm mix qualifies as "good training".

/damn it where did I put those ice trays.

no worries mate, it'll be 98.6* in a moment anyway.

/gotta get to Oz before i ART.

520 Karridine  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:58:54am

BBIAW, Lil Olde!

521 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:59:02am

re: #518 Boogberg

I just wish I had my old brain and my young bones. If there is a God, He's (yes, HE's) a mean son of a bitch. No woman could be that cruel. :D

Either haven't been married much or not experienced in girlfriends.

/Deadlier of the species mean anything to you?

522 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:59:07am

NYT shoves Obama under the bus

The New York Times:Obama entrances Europe in vague tones

PARIS - For Senator Barack Obama, who came to Europe once in the last four years, making a stop in London on his way to Russia, the response of many Europeans to his potential presidency has been gratifying — emotional, responsive, replete with the sense of hope he seeks to engender about a more flexible, less ideological America.

European governments and politicians are not so sure.
[snip]
But he was vague on crucial issues of trade, defense and foreign policy that currently divide Washington from Europe and are likely to continue to do so even if he becomes president — issues ranging from Russia, Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan to new refueling tankers and chlorinated chickens, the focus of an 11-year European ban on American poultry imports.
[snip]
Eberhard Sandschneider of the German Council on Foreign Relations said, “The Obama who spoke tonight did not put all his cards on the table.” Mr. Obama “tried to use all the symbolism of Berlin to indicate that as president he would reach out to Europe,” Mr. Sandschneider said. “But between the lines he said very clearly that Europe needs to do more,” especially on Afghanistan and Iraq.
523 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:59:10am

Lol

tired. Stressed out. Miserable. it's really caught up with me and i've had the shakes all morning

524 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:59:45am

re: #518 Boogberg

I just wish I had my old brain and my young bones. If there is a God, He's (yes, HE's) a mean son of a bitch. No woman could be that cruel. :D

you've never had a girlfriend, have you?

G*d is female: that's why nothing makes sense, and fate is fickle.

525 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 1:59:49am

Almost time for some fruitcuppage..

526 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

527 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:00:40am

re: #524 redc1c4

GMTA

/or we are both just very experienced.

528 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:00:41am

re: #521 BlueCanuck

GMTA......

/maybe he's gay?

NTTAWWT.

/white smoke

529 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:01:28am

re: #526 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

/how long before she starts feeling the effects?

530 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:01:31am

God help me, I think I am channelling red tonight.

531 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:01:31am

Yummy! A little something to chase my pineapple screwdrivers

532 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:01:33am

re: #518 Boogberg

I just wish I had my old brain and my young bones. If there is a God, He's (yes, HE's) a mean son of a bitch. No woman could be that cruel. :D

Wanna bet? ;-)

And you can keep those young bones. I miss the muscle tone...

/gravity. OY.
//What doesn't fall down, falls out!

533 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:02:25am

re: #527 BlueCanuck

GMTA

/or we are both just very experienced.

at least you spelled "cynical" correctly......

/so many people get that wrong. %-)

534 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:02:27am

re: #531 Fenway_Nation

Sounds yummy. Dark rum and gingerale here.

535 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:03:48am

Neo! :-)

Fenway! :-)

Jewels...maybe time to see a doctor?

red/Blue - Behave!
/two sides; same coin

;-)

536 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:05:56am

Lol: more likely stresss has screwed my immune system and now I'm feeling the bite

537 Neo Con since 9-11  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:06:06am

Mornin' LoL, Fenway Jewels and my fellow alchy Red

538 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:07:34am

re: #535 littleoldlady


red/Blue - Behave!
/two sides; same coin

;-)

Hmmm, looking at that terminology. . . . . .

/everything has become so much clearer.
//never really noticed that juxtaposition either.

539 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:08:02am

re: #530 BlueCanuck

God help me, I think I am channelling red tonight.

then, obviously, G*d has helped you.....

how's things with the new girlfriend?

540 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:09:08am

re: #534 BlueCanuck

Let me guess....Canada Dry, you Canuckocentric bigot!

I was torn between the monicker 'Pineapple Screwdriver' or drop a little history along with my drinking and christen it the 'Georgi Schaeffer'- the first Russian to visit the Hawaiian islands (according to the Lonely Planet guidebooks)

541 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:09:38am

re: #539 redc1c4

New girlfriend?

/Have I jumped realities again?

542 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:10:33am

re: #540 Fenway_Nation

Actually Schweppes. A better flavour than Canada Dry for rum.

/hey taste trumps patriotism.

543 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:10:37am

re: #535 littleoldlady

Neo! :-)

Fenway! :-)

Jewels...maybe time to see a doctor?

red/Blue - Behave!
/two sides; same coin

;-)

i *am* behaving.......

544 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:12:19am

re: #541 BlueCanuck

New girlfriend?

/Have I jumped realities again?

you oughta be jumping something.....

/gotta get back in the saddle when you're thrown.

545 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:12:23am

re: #543 redc1c4

Remind me to change continents when you decide to *mis-behave*

546 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:12:44am

re: #538 BlueCanuck

All we need now is "white"

/racist!

European governments and politicians are not so sure.

Let me help youse guyz out here:

1. Hand over your nukes. What? You're worried about Russia? Iran? Don't. They'll be handing over their nukes, too.
/Bwahahaha!

2. A(n American) chicken in every pot. Actually, forget that. Arugula for EVERYONE! (It's your G-d given right, just like a college education...)

3. We're sending all our troops to Afghanistan. You need to send all your troops there, too. In fact, every troop (sic) in the world needs to converge on Afghanistan. That will tilt the Earth's axis and cause the oceans to recede.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

547 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:13:05am

That's not the fruitcup that I knew....

/Obama makes a campaign stop at LGF's overnight thread

548 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:13:17am

re: #542 BlueCanuck

Actually Schweppes. A better flavour than Canada Dry for rum.

/hey taste trumps patriotism.

i can't believe you're wasting dark rum on ginger ale.....

/mojitos

549 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:13:49am

and now that I've thought of it...doctor has given me some suppliments to help replenish what's been lost due to SRI's have had to deal with

550 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:14:00am

re: #547 Fenway_Nation

That's not the fruitcup that I knew....

/Obama makes a campaign stop at LGF's overnight thread

I am not worthy...

551 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:14:39am

re: #545 BlueCanuck

Remind me to change continents when you decide to *mis-behave*

that might not be enough stand off.....

(do you have access to any spacecraft? %-)

552 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:14:50am

re: #548 redc1c4

i can't believe you're wasting dark rum on ginger ale.....

/mojitos

And I can't believe I'm wasting perfectly good pineapple juice on Popov.

Also, I can't believe it's not butter.

553 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:15:04am

re: #549 Jewels (AKA Julian)

SRI's?

554 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:15:50am

Stress Related Illness's = SRI's

555 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:16:03am

re: #548 redc1c4

Cola and alcohol give me fierce heartburn, I also need to sleep, and I couldn't think of any fruitjuice to ruin.

/though mojitos sound really nice. Need a muddler

556 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:17:20am

re: #551 redc1c4

Hell, I was infantry. Another continent and enough heads up, I could survive anything. :)

557 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:17:40am

re: #547 Fenway_Nation

That's not the fruitcup that I knew....

/Obama makes a campaign stop at LGF's overnight thread

campaign bus hits fruitcup, skids out of control and goes over cliff into parked train hauling a variety of industrial chemicals, which is located on the siding of the refinery.

/the fire burns for weeks.

558 akak  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:18:19am

IRG gone done blowed up sar! Good way to start a Friday.

559 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:18:43am

re: #554 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Stress Related Illness's = SRI's

as opposed to SSRI's.....

which can help with stress.

(but not as well as beating the crap out of the source of the stress. %-)

560 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:18:56am

re: #557 redc1c4

That's the ticket!

/I think we finally found the proper use for red's enhanced fruitcup!

561 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:19:05am

re: #557 redc1c4

Wishful thinking.

/found a happy place

562 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:19:36am

re: #558 akak

IRG gone done blowed up sar! Good way to start a Friday.

allyou snackbar!

563 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:19:59am

re: #554 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Stress Related Illness's = SRI's

I thought you were saying you had SRI in your portfolio.

564 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:20:20am

Stress: [defn] Where the brain over rides the bodies desire to choke the living shift out of some asshole that truly deserves it.

565 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:20:21am

re: #559 redc1c4

sadly....not allowed to do that. I work in the loans industry and have amd pretty much the complaints department

566 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:20:29am

re: #560 littleoldlady

That's the ticket!

/I think we finally found the proper use for red's enhanced fruitcup!

you mean, besides consuming mass quantities thereof?

567 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:22:22am

re: #563 Fenway_Nation

That's not an illness that's a good pick. Has doubled since February.

568 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:22:36am

re: #565 Jewels (AKA Julian)

sadly....not allowed to do that. I work in the loans industry and have amd pretty much the complaints department

well, i used to repo cars, so, technically anyway, i was in the loan industry too.

problem was, people complained to me with fists, guns, dogs, etc.......

569 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:25:28am

re: #557 redc1c4

Glad you brought up chemical plant/refinery fires. The History Channel had their 'Mega disasters' show on the other night- every week it's 'what major Metropolitan area will get bombarded with an asteroid/meteor/comet? Let's use our CGI animation to find out!'. Except this week it was 'what happens if theres a catastrophic fire/spill at a major refinery of chemical plant?'. They tapdanced around the fact that some of these nasty chemicals could fall into terrorist hands, but instead ingored the fact that they already have and cited a derailment in South Carolina in 2005 that spilled some chlorine....

570 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:26:28am

re: #528 redc1c4

GMTA......

/maybe he's gay?

NTTAWWT.

/white smoke

I overheard that remark. :D

And no, there isn't anything wrong with it (not that I'm gay, mind you).

571 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:27:05am

re: #565 Jewels (AKA Julian)

sadly....not allowed to do that. I work in the loans industry and have amd pretty much the complaints department

the thing about stress is that you have to remain a net exporter of it....

as long as you give more than you get, you're ok. the problem is when people try to be "nice" or "understanding" or some such ......

all the human body needs to survive is the four basic food groups
1. red meat
2. alcohol
3. caffeine (weapons grade preferred)
4. stress

/chocolate is a vitamin, not a food group

572 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:28:40am

re: #570 Boogberg

I overheard that remark. :D

And no, there isn't anything wrong with it (not that I'm gay, mind you).

you'll note i didn't ask......

(nor was i expecting you to tell. %-)

/white smoke

573 Ledger1  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:30:06am

I was friggin’ stunned as I was listening to this f*cking as*hole.

by Bob in Breckenridge

I agree.

From reading about Oh bummer's “bug-out” of the visit to Landstuhl hospital for a rock concert is I am also angered.

Obama is showing his true hate for American soldiers.

Obama is a stinky political turd.

[Power line]

Barack Obama's priorities were put into sharp relief today when he canceled visits to two American military bases in Germany. He still has time, of course, to play the "rock star" in front of cheering multitudes of Germans

The message here is that thousands of screaming German fans at the Tiergarten take precedence over visiting Americans serving their country at Rammstein and Landstuhl. Maybe one of the networks following Obama could interview a few of the soldiers about how they perceive that set of priorities from Obama.

Landstuhl, of course, is where soldiers wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan are sent for treatment. Obama's visit there no doubt would have included meeting some of them. I can't say it any better than Ed did:

Obama canceled a previously-planned stop to visit thousands of American service personnel, including troops wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan being treated at Landstuhl, so he could hold a political rally for Germans and go shopping in Berlin. Now that’s a nice set of priorities for a man who wants to become Commander in Chief.

UPDATE: A reader adds:

I think there are other considerations that went into his calculation, er, decision. For instance, the possibly uncomfortable question of the very existence of the bases in Germany almost sixty-five years after the end of WWII and twenty years after the fall of the Berlin Wall. Does that raise doubts about how long The-One-We-Have-Been-Waiting-For might keep "residual forces" in Iraq? on "bases"?....does moveon.org know about this? Or perhaps meeting wounded soldiers from Iraq would require The One, etc. to explain how proud he is of them for suffering for a "mistake" based on "lies"….

Sightseeing or Wounded Soldiers? For Obama an Easy Choice

574 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:32:36am

re: #573 Ledger1

But then we already know that the light worker is rather light in his beliefs of his country.

575 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:37:38am

re: #574 BlueCanuck

But then we already know that the light worker is rather light in his beliefs of his country.

i doubt he even thinks of it as "his country".....

576 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:37:42am

re: #567 BlueCanuck

That's not an illness that's a good pick. Has doubled since February.

I'm a little upset at myself, Blue. Pretty much all of the publicly traded railroads seemed to have been doing a good job of riding out the market slump and increase in fuel prices.....kind of defeats the whole purpose of 'buy low, sell high'. However....what do all those trains need to come to a stop at all those ports, grain elevators, coal mines ot auto assembly plants?

Give yourself a Canada Dry and rum if you said Air Brakes!

Every time I looked at Westinghouse this month, it was going past its 52-week high water mark (not so true now, but still doing quite good).

577 Dustyvet  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:37:44am

Obama canceled a previously-planned stop to visit thousands of American service personnel, including troops wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan being treated at Landstuhl, so he could hold a political rally for Germans and go shopping in Berlin. Now that’s a nice set of priorities for a man who wants to become Commander in Chief.


Yet another reason I won't vote for this ass hat...

578 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:41:20am

Will the fawning MSM stop giving the Obamanation a pass anytime between now and November?

579 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:42:16am

re: #576 Fenway_Nation

The more I learn about stocks and investing the more awed I am at the typical publics attitude. I have heard about people panicking at the start of the year when we experienced a small down turn in the market.

580 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:43:57am

re: #578 Fenway_Nation

I've come to the unfortunate conclusion that it's up to each of us to spread the word about the true nature of this "candidate".

/praying exponential math actually works...

581 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:44:46am

re: #572 redc1c4

you'll note i didn't ask......

(nor was i expecting you to tell. %-)

/white smoke

I don't recall saying you asked. So why would I note something that didn't occur?

582 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:46:40am

re: #579 BlueCanuck

Given my financial status due to predatory lenders, I might as well be making these picks with Monopoly money. However, my picks for some of the foreign currencies versus the greenback over the past two months or so were spot on- I picked the Rupee, South African Rand and Korean Won to make some gains against the dollar. Again, I might as well have been doing this with Monopoly money....

583 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:47:47am

re: #573 Ledger1

Blackfive was all over this......

584 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:49:05am

re: #581 Boogberg

I don't recall saying you asked. So why would I note something that didn't occur?

note the %-) and the white smoke..... %-)

/white smoke

585 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:49:37am

re: #580 littleoldlady

True enough, but using circular logic, it's always Bush's fault or the Republican's fault.

I.E. Obama shouldn't have blown off a visit to some of those wounded soliders, but those soildiers wouldn't have been wounded if it weren't for Bush's illegal and unjust occupation of Iraq....

I'd like to thank some of my coworkers for providing me a template of this specious debating tactic...

586 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:50:14am

0300, and i'm going to another concert tonight..... WTF was i thinking?

L8r!

/extra fruitcup for everyone....... %-)

587 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:54:28am

re: #585 Fenway_Nation

And that base and hospital wouldn't be in Germany in the first place if it wasn't for (who?)...Truman?

/wasn't he a Democrat?
//my brain hurts...

588 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:54:45am

'Night, red.

589 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:56:24am

I don't know what "/white smoke" means. Someone care to enlighten me?

590 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:57:01am

re: #586 redc1c4

Night red, keep up the good fight.

591 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:58:11am

If [shudder] Obama wins in November, will Berlin be one of his campaign stops in 2012?

More important than Berlin, NY
More important than Berlin, PA
More important than Berlin, NH
More important than Berlin, OH
More important than New Berlin, NC
More important than Berlin, WI
More important than Berlin, ND
More important than Berlin, MI
Much more important than Berlin, WV

/spit

592 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:59:12am

re: #589 Boogberg

It means he's joking.

/sort of ;-)

593 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 2:59:12am

re: #589 Boogberg

No problem check out this previous post where red explains it all.

/an army term, basiclly to cover ones retreat/ass.

594 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:03:49am

re: #579 BlueCanuck


Also, I heard that tumble the market took was the biggest single-day decline the Dow-Jones, Nasdaq, etc took since 9/11.

As for the IndyMac fiasco dragging down the value of stocks for much better-run financial institutions, there was actually an embarassment of variety, but I suffered from indecision (couldn't decide between a Citi, Comerica or some reigonal banks...) and lost my opportunity when their stock rebounded this week....

595 littleoldlady  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:05:58am

Speaking of "braining hurting"...I have to go figure out what I owe on MNT's tuition bill.

/that's due today
//that I can't pay...
///feh.

Good day, ALL!™

596 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:06:06am

re: #594 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, but people don't have a long term memory of the bad times for some reason. Comparing stuff to post 9/11 in finances is stupid. I actually have heard about people complaining about HIGH mortgage rates. RECENTLY!

/morons, short minded fools.

597 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:06:35am

re: #595 littleoldlady

Bye little old lady, see you Sunday morning.

598 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:08:14am

re: #593 BlueCanuck

No problem check out this previous post where red explains it all.

/an army term, basiclly to cover ones retreat/ass.

Ah. Got it. Thanks

599 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:10:38am

re: #598 Boogberg

No problem. Sometimes I come across a developing meme and I save the post. :)

/amateur historian.

600 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:12:31am

re: #596 BlueCanuck

I tend to mostly complain about missed opportunities...

Or about the chick with the enourmous tatas biting my thumb.

601 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:14:02am

re: #592 littleoldlady

It means he's joking.

/sort of ;-)

Sort of? I knew it was malicious! The bastards! :D

602 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:14:33am

re: #600 Fenway_Nation

I tend to mostly complain about missed opportunities...

Or about the chick with the enourmous tatas biting my thumb.

And why would you complain about that?

/opportunity.

603 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:15:14am

One final drink, and cigarette. Than I am off to bed.

604 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:15:57am

re: #602 BlueCanuck

And why would you complain about that?

/opportunity.

She was a sore loser at thumb wrestling....plus I still have teethmarks.

605 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:18:31am

The Arctic may contain as much as a fifth of the world’s yet to-be-discovered oil and natural gas reserves, the United States Geological Survey said Wednesday as it unveiled the largest-ever survey of petroleum resources north of the Arctic Circle.

Oil companies have long suspected that the Arctic contained substantial energy resources, and have been spending billions recently to get their hands on tracts for exploration. As melting ice caps have opened up prospects that were once considered too harsh to explore, a race has begun among Arctic nations, including the United States, Russia, and Canada, for control of these resources.

The geological agency’s survey largely vindicates the rising interest. It suggests that most of the yet-to-be found resources are not under the North Pole but much closer to shore, in regions that are not subject to territorial dispute.

SNIP

606 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:20:01am

re: #605 MandyManners


Awesome. The implications of this are far-reaching indeed. But is the world ready for a 3rd season of Ice Road Truckers?

607 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:20:55am

re: #603 BlueCanuck

One final drink, and cigarette. Than I am off to bed.

If the cigarette nazis have their way, you won't be smoking in your own fucking house before too long.

608 godfrey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:21:46am

Good morning, lizards.

Has any PM or presidential candidate in Europe ever used America as a stage for his political message? I can't think of any.

I don't have a problem with Obama going to Berlin to talk about the international help of the airlift, the collapse of divisions, and let fly a full deck of platitudes. After all, he didn't announce his candidacy there.

What I have a problem with is Obama's ignorance, secrecy, and hard-left extremism in a total void of leadership experience.

Obama's perspective seems to be "non-profit organizational utopianism" mixed with whatever else he finds politically expedient at the moment.

He should be running for leadership of some NGO. Not President of the USA.

609 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:22:07am

re: #604 Fenway_Nation

Thumb wrestling? That's all you were doing?

/shameful

610 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:23:23am

re: #607 Boogberg

If the cigarette nazis have their way, you won't be smoking in your own fucking house before too long.

Landlord doesn't let me. I have to step outside to do it. *sigh* winter really sucks for me for the past couple of years. No smoking inside anywhere for drinkers.

611 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:25:29am

re: #609 BlueCanuck


Well....we were using an escalating series of diversions to try and gain an edge on each other...she started shoving furniture in my direction, I found out she was very ticklish and.....well, she sank her teeth into my right hand...

612 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:27:22am

re: #611 Fenway_Nation

ROFLMAO

613 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:33:38am

That sucks, BlueCanuck. Any chance of you getting your own property?

614 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:34:19am

re: #613 Boogberg

I give it a year. But probably about that time I will have quit smoking as well.

615 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:34:43am

re: #606 Fenway_Nation

Awesome. The implications of this are far-reaching indeed. But is the world ready for a 3rd season of Ice Road Truckers?

I freeze my imaginary nuts off just watching that show.

616 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:35:59am

re: #615 MandyManners

I freeze my imaginary nuts off just watching that show.

*blink blink*

617 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:39:14am

And on that note folks, I am off to bed. See you around the next time.

618 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:40:41am

re: #614 BlueCanuck

I give it a year. But probably about that time I will have quit smoking as well.

Well at least YOU'LL be the one making the decisions, eh? :D

619 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:41:34am

MOSCOW — The British energy giant BP moved closer to losing control of its joint venture in Russia after the operation’s chief executive was forced to leave the country Thursday because he could not get a work visa.

The development is the latest twist in a rising nationalism that is shutting Western oil companies out of energy-rich regions and has wide implications for BP, which pumps about a quarter of its worldwide oil output in Russia.

The TNK-BP venture in Russia’s western Siberian oil basin had accounted for nearly all of BP’s reserve growth in recent years, as supplies from Alaska and the North Sea dwindled.

While BP retains ownership of 50 percent of the TNK-BP venture, the departure of the executive, Robert Dudley, an American, will probably lead to the passing of greater operational control to the Russian partners.

SNIP

On Tuesday, BP withdrew from Russia all of its geologists and engineers involved in the TNK-BP venture.

SNIP

620 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:42:19am

re: #617 BlueCanuck

Sweet dreams!

621 godfrey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:43:15am

John F'in Kerry's eurosnobbery turned off millions of Americans. You can't be President of the USA and a Eurosnob at the same time.

622 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:44:21am

re: #612 BlueCanuck


If someone was there with a camera, I'm sure it will be prominently featured on hotchickswithdouchebags.com

623 godfrey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:45:57am

re: #619 MandyManners

That's okay. When BHO is Supreme Ruler, those Russians will throw open their oil fields with joy.

624 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:46:31am

re: #605 MandyManners
Did you know that coal is found under every continent on the planet? Yet it is formed from plant remains that need to grow in a moist, warm environment. So either the continents have been drifting around from zone to zone, or the entire planet was once hot and humid. Finding oil on any location on this planet doesn't surprise me in the least. Even the deepest trench in the middle of the ocean could bear the biggest jackpot of oil yet discovered. The Democrats want everyone to be poor, as that is their base, so their resistance to offshore drilling is a given.

625 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:51:53am

Good morning all. Just a drive by today. I have to work outside with no internet access. Hope everyone has a glorious day, or night for those heading to bed. Catch you later.

626 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:52:27am

re: #623 godfrey

That's okay. When BHO is Supreme Ruler, those Russians will throw open their oil fields with joy.

And herds of unicorns will welcome them.

627 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:53:36am

BTW. Fenway_Nation:

GO SOX! Back in first place with the Spankees coming to town. What could be better?

628 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:53:45am

re: #624 ec marm

have been spending billions recently to get their hands on tracts for exploration

How's that for bias?

629 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:54:45am

Good morning, Lizards!

630 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:56:18am

re: #629 goddessoftheclassroom

Howdy!

631 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:00:31am

re: #628 MandyManners

How's that for bias?


A little bit. At least they didn't say, "greedy little hands."
Did you happen to see this article? I'm thinking of Photoshopping Rev. Wright as Tiny Tim saying, "Goddamn us everyone."
Unless someone has a better idea.

632 Boogberg  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:00:50am

This shit isn't funny, friends. Americans need to get a handle on this. I got a $80/week raise two years ago. Good money for my position. Thanks to inflation, Energy costs, food costs...It completely evaporated!

633 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:05:27am

re: #631 ec marm

A little bit. At least they didn't say, "greedy little hands."
Did you happen to see this article? I'm thinking of Photoshopping Rev. Wright as Tiny Tim saying, "Goddamn us everyone."
Unless someone has a better idea.

do not give Christmas or birthday presents to their two young daughters.

Wow. How are birthdays treated in Islam?

634 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:07:58am

re: #631 ec marm

Great photoshop job!

635 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:09:07am

re: #633 MandyManners

Wow. How are birthdays treated in Islam?


'Not celebrated' from comments at other blogs.

636 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:12:09am

re: #633 MandyManners

Wow. How are birthdays treated in Islam?

Jehovah's Witnesses don't give gifts at Christmas or birthdays, either.

I'm curious whether they give gifts for any other occasions?

637 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:12:54am

re: #635 ec marm

'Not celebrated' from comments at other blogs.

WAB goes along with this? I wonder what else she goes along with that smacks of Islam.

Wonder if she has a burkha for fun and games.

638 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:13:37am

re: #636 goddessoftheclassroom

Jehovah's Witnesses don't give gifts at Christmas or birthdays, either.

I'm curious whether they give gifts for any other occasions?

I've not heard of any.

639 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:15:28am

re: #638 MandyManners

I wonder whether that was the custom of their old church?

I feel sorry for the girls.

640 Annar  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:17:39am

re: #171 SpartanWoman

Mysterious explosions? In Mosques? In those holy places where nothing bad could ever ever happen?

Seems like some might be munitions depots, imo

The word of Allah can be poignant at times. It is best replied to by a higher level of shock and awe.

641 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:21:56am

re: #639 goddessoftheclassroom

I wonder whether that was the custom of their old church?

I feel sorry for the girls.

What kinds of gifts are given for Kwanza?

642 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:23:03am

re: #641 MandyManners

I don't know--perhaps they celebrate that, but why not explain that then?

643 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:23:04am

re: #639 goddessoftheclassroom

I wonder whether that was the custom of their old church?

I feel sorry for the girls.


If children don't feel loved by their own parents, there's always the pimp on the corner, or pusher at the bus stop to accommodate that need. Not that parents have to go into hock for birthdays or religious days. The best gifts my children ever got, according to them, were the things like the doll house I made for my daughter, or the times I spent building, painting, and blasting model rockets with my son. Cheap stuff, actually. Forget or ignore their birthday, to try to "teach them some limits"? I could never be that heartless.

644 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:28:41am

re: #634 MandyManners

Great photoshop job!


How about version II? Better?

645 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:29:02am

re: #643 ec marm

EVERYONE should feel special on his or her birthday. Did the girls have parties, I wonder?

646 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:29:18am

OSLO (Reuters) - Twenty-three people were wounded when a gang of 40-50 men armed with steel bars and machetes attacked residents at a refugee centre in Norway late on Thursday, officials said on Friday.

No one was seriously wounded, but 10 were sent to hospital and 13 treated at a local clinic, hospital officials said.

An official at the centre in Oestfold south of Oslo said the attackers were Chechens and the victims Kurds. Police declined to confirm or deny that and said they had made no arrests so far.

SNIP

647 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:30:14am

re: #642 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't know--perhaps they celebrate that, but why not explain that then?

Because it would take away his self-righteous disdain for middle-class behaviors?

648 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:30:50am

re: #644 ec marm

How about version II? Better?

Oh, brilliant!

649 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:31:04am
650 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:32:28am
651 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:33:08am

re: #649 ploome hineni

I told my mom that I'd pick Hillary over Obama any day...

652 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:33:14am

re: #649 ploome hineni
Excellent, I'm gonna snitch that and add it, I think. It's all falling into the category of, "if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck..."

653 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:36:07am

In a joint motion, defendants in United States v. Holy Land Foundation, et al. seek to have U.S. District Judge Jorge A. Solis of the Northern District of Texas postpone a retrial, because, they allege, the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has not paid most of the legal fees for four of the defendants' court-appointed lawyers since October 2007 when a mistrial in the case was declared. The defendants also allege the 5th Circuit has not paid or approved expenses related to defense preparations for the Sept. 8 retrial.

In the July 15 "Defendants' Joint Motion for Extension of Time for All Remaining Pre-Trial Deadlines and Trial," the five individual defendants, all of whom formerly worked for HLF, a now-defunct Richardson, Texas-based Muslim charity, argue that because of the nonpayment, the defense is not prepared for retrial. Four of the HLF defendants are indigent and are represented by court-appointed lawyers pursuant to 18 U.S.C. &sect3006A.

SNIP

654 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:36:57am

re: #652 ec marm

Excellent, I'm gonna snitch that and add it, I think. It's all falling into the category of, "if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck..."

It's a duck?

655 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:37:07am

re: #649 ploome hineni

Messiah Obama wore out his welcome in Europe,
Lets hope the same thing happens here.

656 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:37:20am
657 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:37:35am
658 Annar  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:37:49am

re: #473 LeePro

One small positive thing about Vermont. They offer free Wi-Fi at the rest stops on the Interstates.

659 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:40:19am
660 lifeofthemind  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:46:07am

Did I miss anything while I was gone?

661 irish rose  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:46:36am

Good morning, lizards!

66 sunny degrees along the Lake Michigan shoreline, gonna be a good day today.

I missed the registration thread last night, did we whack any trolls?

662 ibmkeyboard  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:47:03am

British paper slam.

He ventured forth to bring light to the world
The anointed one's pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action - and a blessing to all his faithful followers
Gerard Baker
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.
The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.
When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: “Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope?”
In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.
And so it was, in the fullness of time, before the harvest month of the appointed year, the Child ventured forth - for the first time - to bring the light unto all the world.
He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the
Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining terror on all the world.
And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the
Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great blows and the threat of terror was no more.
663 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:48:38am

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - A bomb exploded outside a cafe early Friday and another went off outside the home of a Hamas lawmaker, security officials said. One person was killed.

The first blast took place just after midnight at the Al Jazera cafe and wounded three people, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge details to the media.

The cafe has been hit twice in the past year by similar attacks, presumably perpetrated by radical Muslims who also target record shops and institutions they see as signs of Western influence.

SNIP

664 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:49:08am
665 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:49:35am
666 lizardbennet  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:50:20am

From the seven “Obama House Rules” listed by the magazine:

5) Allowance from Dad for doing chores: $1 per week. “I’m out of town all the time,” says Barack, “so Malia will say, ‘Hey, you owe me 10 weeks!’

Sorry kid, Dad's off pandering to his European constituency.

Those in favor of Obama's socialist ways better take note.

667 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:50:30am

re: #663 MandyManners

In recent years, shadowy groups have firebombed internet cafes, music stores and Christian institutions. The bombings are typically carried out late at night and most have caused no casualties.

But in one deadly attack in October, 2007, a local Christian activist was murdered. No arrests have been made in the case.

Shadowy? Ya' think, Ibrahim?

668 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:52:47am

re: #666 lizardbennet

From the seven “Obama House Rules” listed by the magazine:

5) Allowance from Dad for doing chores: $1 per week. “I’m out of town all the time,” says Barack, “so Malia will say, ‘Hey, you owe me 10 weeks!’

Sorry kid, Dad's off pandering to his European constituency.

Those in favor of Obama's socialist ways better take note.

One dollar/week?!

669 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:53:16am

re: #666 lizardbennet

How does that break down into chores?

670 irish rose  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:58:05am

Ya know, in all the time that I've been reading here I've never taken the time to google Charles Johnson to see what the man looks like.

I just found you over at CNN, Charles.

Damn!

671 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:58:34am

re: #668 MandyManners

One dollar/week?!


I had an entire checklist of jobs my children could do. Each job paid a different amount. Cutting the grass, sweeping walk/driveways, scrubbing floor, waxing hardwood floors, etc. No allowance, per se. Reports cards earned them set amounts for "A"s and "B"s and bonus money for honors.
I was always reaching into my wallet. Quite happily.

672 lizardbennet  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:58:53am

re: #669 MandyManners


Here are the seven “Obama House Rules” listed by the magazine:

1) “No whining, arguing or annoying teasing,” says Michelle Obama.

2) Make the bed. “Doesn’t have to look good—just throw the sheet over it,” says Mom.

3) Set your own alarm clock. “They get themselves up, get their own clothes,” says Sasha and Malia’s grandmother Marian Robinson. “They’re very easy to take care of; there’s not much left for me to do!”

4) Keep playroom toy closet clean.

5) Allowance from Dad for doing chores: $1 per week. “I’m out of town all the time,” says Barack, “so Malia will say, ‘Hey, you owe me 10 weeks!’ ”

6) No birthday or Christmas presents from Mom and Dad, who spend “hundreds” on birthday slumber parties and, as Barack puts it, “want to teach some limits.” Says Michelle: “Malia says, ‘I know there is a Santa because there’s no way you’d buy me all that stuff.’ ”

7) Lights out at 8:30. “They got an extra half hour when they were ready to read on their own,” says Michelle.

673 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:06:47am

Good Morning Lizards!
how is everyone this morning?

674 irish rose  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:07:15am

Not to shabby hoosier, yerself?

675 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:07:36am

Good Morning Lizards.

The grim death total grows. Another shot dead in Chicago.

Man fatally shot, shooter jumps into waiting vehicle

Police are looking for a Cadillac DeVille that a shooter jumped inside after fatally shooting a man on a Southeast Side sidewalk early Friday.

A 29-year-old man was with two people, including a woman, in the 1900 block of East 71st Street about 2:40 a.m. when the shooter approached on foot, and fired multiple shots, according to Grand Crossing District police.

The 29-year-old, who remains unidentified, was shot in the chest on the sidewalk, police News Affairs Officer John Henry said.

The man later died at Northwestern Memorial Hospital at 3:19 a.m., a Cook County Medical Examiner’s office spokesman said.

The man and woman with the victim at the time of the shooting were unharmed, Grand Crossing District police said.

Police said the shooter jumped into a waiting light blue Cadillac DeVille that fled the scene.

Calumet Area detectives are investigating.

Mayor Daley (Democrat) and Gov. Blagojevich (Democrat) lied
and people died.

676 Salamantis  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:07:41am

"I could do that," says Moishe.

To his surprise, the employer turns out to be the Central Park Zoo in New York .

Owing to mismanagement, the zoo has spent so much money renovating the grounds and improving the habitat, they can no longer afford to import the ape to replace the recently deceased one, so, until they can, they'll put an actor in an ape suit.

Out of desperation, Moishe takes the offer.

At first, his conscience keeps nagging him, that he is being dishonest by fooling the zoo-goers. Moishe also feels undignified in the ape suit, stared at by the crowds who watch his every move.

But after a few days on the job, he begins to enjoy all the attention and starts to put on a show for all the zoo-goers.

Moishe hangs upside down from the branches by his legs, swinging about on the vines, climbing up the cage walls and roaring with all his might, while beating on his chest.

Soon, he's drawing a sizable crowd.

One day, when Moishe is swinging on the vines to show off to a group of school kids, his hand slips and he goes flying over the fence into the neighboring cage, the lion's den.

Terrified, Moishe backs up as far from the approaching lion as he can, covers his eyes with his paws and prays at the top of his lungs, "Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad!"

The lion opens his powerful jaws and roars the response, "Baruch Shem K'vod Malchuto L'olam Va'ed"

From a nearby cage, a panda yells, "Shut up you schmucks, you'll get us all fired!"

677 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:10:10am

re: #675 3 wood


Mayor Daley (Democrat) and Gov. Blagojevich (Democrat) lied
and people died.


Any bets on whether they'll still be voting, come November? I'd kind of be surprised if McCain spends any time in that state.

678 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:10:51am

re: #671 ec marm

I had an entire checklist of jobs my children could do. Each job paid a different amount. Cutting the grass, sweeping walk/driveways, scrubbing floor, waxing hardwood floors, etc. No allowance, per se. Reports cards earned them set amounts for "A"s and "B"s and bonus money for honors.
I was always reaching into my wallet. Quite happily.

That approach highlights achievement.

679 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:11:46am

re: #672 lizardbennet

With the exception of Nos. 5 and 6, those are good rules.

680 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:12:56am

I'm doing great Irish..
Just finished my first cup of java.. things are looking up..

681 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:14:02am

re: #676 Salamantis

Great story! I was believing it until the very end.

682 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:18:52am

re: #678 MandyManners

That approach highlights achievement.


Just handing them money for existing seemed too much to me like running my own little welfare state. Hardly preparation for life. Working, earning their own money to spend as they pleased with no strings attached, was something I wished my parents had done. I got neither allowance or paid for the work I did around the home. My dad put blocks on the gas pedal of the lawn mower so I could reach the pedals. At the age of six. I kid you not.

683 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:24:48am

re: #682 ec marm

Just handing them money for existing seemed too much to me like running my own little welfare state. Hardly preparation for life. Working, earning their own money to spend as they pleased with no strings attached, was something I wished my parents had done. I got neither allowance or paid for the work I did around the home. My dad put blocks on the gas pedal of the lawn mower so I could reach the pedals. At the age of six. I kid you not.

Some people think that kids should do chores to pay for their upbringing, that having a roof over their heads and food in their bellies is payment enough. That's poppcock in my opinion. When you bring a kid into this world, you are obligated to house and feed them and they owe you no labor in exchange.

684 Lively  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:24:55am

re: #682 ec marm

I do something weird with my kids. Since this is an anonymous forum I will tell you what I do.

All my kids play a stringed instrument (cello, violin or viola). I pay my kids to practice. I give them one quarter for each sheet of music they play. The sky is the limit. My 13 year old earns over $20 a week. My 7 year old earns about $4 a week. But let me tell you how they play! My oldest is in Law School now. She majored in Economics, but she also play in the University Symphony. This has worked out well for us.

685 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:26:46am

re: #683 MandyManners

OTOH, kids should do some things just because. I'm thinking about cleaning up their toys or rinsing out the tub after a bath. Even putting clothes in the right basket. (I quit paying The Kid to do that. The money was a motivator for a short time. He's still not 100 per cent but, neither am I at times.)

686 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:27:13am

re: #684 Lively

Excellent!

687 Spider Mensch  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:27:57am

don't know if this has been posted yet....
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

sabotage or 3 stupid revolutionary guards taking an ill timed smoke break? either way good news to start a Friday if true.

688 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:28:04am

re: #675 3 wood,

The city of Chicago will spend more money defending their gun control laws from Heller lawsuits that they will looking for this shooter. You can bank on it.

689 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:28:18am

re: #677 ec marm

Any bets on whether they'll still be voting, come November? I'd kind of be surprised if McCain spends any time in that state.

I'll bet that my mother, who died in 1989, will be voting in November.

690 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:28:23am

Good morning Lizards............. HoosierHoops.... Got any more of that coffee?

691 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:29:52am

re: #687 Spider Mensch

don't know if this has been posted yet....
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

sabotage or 3 stupid revolutionary guards taking an ill timed smoke break? either way good news to start a Friday if true.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

JPost is reporting the same...

Sounds like the Iranians have some trouble brewing.

Good Morning, Lizards!

692 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:30:26am

re: #684 Lively
That seems like a very good idea. I had an interest in music and lost it an early age, and regret it now. By the time I could get up on the piano bench by myself, I could read music, play the song once, and commit it to memory. Took lessons but the music bored me after a while because it wasn't anything I wanted to learn.
Now my ability to read music is all completely, utterly gone from memory.

693 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:31:09am

re: #691 rlevitin

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

JPost is reporting the same...

Sounds like the Iranians have some trouble brewing.

Good Morning, Lizards!

Can you say industrial purpccident, er accident?

694 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:31:50am

Good Morning Dorian..
An african house blend with lots of cream and sugar..

695 freetoken  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:32:14am

Any update on the Qantas airline that just had to do an emergency landing in Manilla due to a hole blowing out under fuselage?

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

696 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:32:43am

re: #687 Spider Mensch

don't know if this has been posted yet....
[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

sabotage or 3 stupid revolutionary guards taking an ill timed smoke break? either way good news to start a Friday if true.

Additional explosions and mysterious incidents which have taken place in Iran recently are being investigated by the Revolutionary Guards. In one of the incidents, a blast rocked a mosque in the city of Shiraz, where weapons were being displayed, killing 11 people.

Are we spreadking some cash around?

697 Lively  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:33:13am

re: #695 freetoken

Any update on the Qantas airline that just had to do an emergency landing in Manilla due to a hole blowing out under fuselage?

[Link: www.reuters.com...]


Hey, it happens.

//

698 freetoken  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:33:16am

Picture here.

699 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:34:41am

re: #696 MandyManners

Are we spreadking some cash around?

If this is what some cash is getting us, I say it is FAR better spent than the money being spread around for congressional fact-finding missions and the salaries of certain speakers for the house.

700 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:35:48am

re: #688 Iron Fist

The city of Chicago will spend more money defending their gun control laws from Heller lawsuits that they will looking for this shooter. You can bank on it.

And talk to any elevator repairman who goes into the public housing and they will tell you the places are stiff with guns.

For years the White Sox paid off the street gangs to not shoot up the place around the park.

When I used to live in Chicago and had to go out of town for business, the safest place in town to go was Chinatown. The street gangs there did not put up with any crap in their neighborhood. All you had to do was go into a restaurant and have a meal. Cause you did business with them, they would be honor bound to keep a protective eye on you. The chicago Chinese street gangs made the mob look like Fred Rodgers.

701 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:36:48am

re: #699 rlevitin

If this is what some cash is getting us, I say it is FAR better spent than the money being spread around for congressional fact-finding missions and the salaries of certain speakers for the house.

Or the pay for SS agents to guard BHO on a campaign tour overseas.

702 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:37:54am

re: #700 3 wood

meant to say "had to go out on the town for business.

703 Pawn of the Oppressor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:39:18am

re: #608 godfrey

Good morning, lizards.

Has any PM or presidential candidate in Europe ever used America as a stage for his political message? I can't think of any.

I don't have a problem with Obama going to Berlin to talk about the international help of the airlift, the collapse of divisions, and let fly a full deck of platitudes. After all, he didn't announce his candidacy there.

What I have a problem with is Obama's ignorance, secrecy, and hard-left extremism in a total void of leadership experience.

Obama's perspective seems to be "non-profit organizational utopianism" mixed with whatever else he finds politically expedient at the moment.

He should be running for leadership of some NGO. Not President of the USA.

Here's the real reason Prophet Obama went to Europe - cold, hard cash:

Apparently there's money in this whole "Stunt President" gig

“I contributed because of the absolutely appalling performance of the Bush administration during the last eight years,” said Eileen Taylor, a chief operating officer for Deutsche Bank in London.

She made two $2,300 donations, the maximum allowed, and is also working on a voter registration drive to make it easier for Americans abroad to cast ballots in the November election.

“We’re actively signing people up to vote,” she said. “Democrats Abroad is working with a lot of companies to set up voter registration and absentee ballots. The key message is that it’s not about the money. A lot of people are putting emotional energy into this campaign.”

Only U.S. citizens are permitted to contribute to presidential campaigns. The European totals include contributions of $200 or more from each individual as election laws do not require campaigns to itemize lesser amounts. So it’s possible Obama has received additional money from smaller donors. McCain, however, publishes all contributions, even amounts smaller than $200.

While Bush is unpopular at home, hostility to the outgoing president appears to be much deeper among expatriate donors than the general population in the United States. Obama’s many backers in Europe say they are motivated by a yearning for America to once again be viewed with respect by the rest of the world.

Gerald Wood, an American living in Germany, said he contributed $1,000 to Obama because he wants to see America’s reputation restored after it “worsened” during the Bush years.

“For me Barack Obama is the one who can improve America’s image,” he said, comparing the youthful candidate to John F. Kennedy and Robert Kennedy. “I want more bipartisanship, to give the land a vision.”

The amounts raised in Europe are not terribly significant in the costly White House race, but the disparity between the two candidates underscores the Democratic candidate’s appeal on a continent where Obamamania seems to have taken hold of expatriates and Europeans alike.

705 Iron Fist  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:39:38am

re: #701 MandyManners,

I thought Barry O. had a magical aura that prevented assassination. What does he need SS guards for, anyway?

:-P

706 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:39:46am

The opening from a timesonline article..
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.

The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.

When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders.
....
pretty funny mocking really...

707 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:41:18am

re: #695 freetoken
Weak bomb, thank G-d. Looks like it blew the cargo door off.

708 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:41:24am

re: #705 Iron Fist

,

I thought Barry O. had a magical aura that prevented assassination. What does he need SS guards for, anyway?

:-P

Bullet-proof halo?

709 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:42:00am

re: #694 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Dorian..
An african house blend with lots of cream and sugar..

Bless you.......................

711 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:42:50am

re: #707 ec marm

Weak bomb, thank G-d. Looks like it blew the cargo door off.

Maybe it was just metal fatigue.

How old is the 747-400?

712 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:45:01am

re: #710 n in wi

He can pick up where Clinton left off,that being so productive,negotiating with Arafat and such.

Israelis and Palestinians were in rare agreement on one point: Obama told each what they wanted to hear, but his real audience was Jewish voters back home in America.

713 n in wi  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:45:13am

If Bush is such a dunce and has done everything wrong,Why are both candidates moving closer to a lot of his policies?

714 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:45:37am

'UNIFIL flaws may lead to new conflict'

Israeli Ambassador to the UN, Danny Gillerman, blasts the UN implementation of Resolution 1701. He really takes it to them, and threatens another flare up against Hizballah.

I found one part of this article particularly interesting, as I have never heard it put this way before:

"Resolution 1701 was perceived as a major diplomatic achievement for Israel, because in previous wars, while we did have resounding and outright victories on ground, they were never followed by political or diplomatic achievements. Here, while we may not have had a resounding victory on the ground, we did have a very significant diplomatic achievement, which not only put an end to the war, but also had elements of dramatically changing the situation on the ground.

"It brought in 30,000 soldiers to southern Lebanon, including 15,000 Lebanese armed forces who had never set foot there - that's totally new - and 15,000 international soldiers under UN mandate, some very highly skilled and well-trained, which created a new situation in southern Lebanon.

"Until July 12, 2006, southern Lebanon was Hizbullah territory - a state within a state. Hizbullah could do whatever it wanted out in the open, and no Lebanese soldier would dare venture [in]. All of a sudden, there were 30,000 soldiers there," Gillerman said.

Of course, that is all well and good in theory, but we have seen what happens in practice.

Just goes to show which of the two methods is most effective. A diplomatic resolution without a ground victory -- as libs love to pursue -- or a ground victory without (necessarily) a diplomatic resolution. I for one prefer the latter.

As a certain someone recently stated "Israel is Israel's best friend".

715 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:46:25am

re: #711 MandyManners

Maybe it was just metal fatigue.

How old is the 747-400?


The 747-400 was announced by Boeing Commercial Airplanes in October 1985.


It could possibly not have been closed and secured properly but there's all sort of warning lights that would have warned of that. I see jagged edges on metal inside the cargo department. Which could have been created by flying around at 400 or 500 mph, too, I guess.

716 Spider Mensch  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:46:28am

re: #711 MandyManners

Maybe it was just metal fatigue.

How old is the 747-400?

pure speculation on my part, first thing I thought of...some type of aerosol container in a non pressurized part of the aircraft. maybe some moron packed a large can of butane lighter fluid. i'm not sure if it coud do that much damage, but if packed with other aerosal type items? just a thought...

717 n in wi  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:48:41am

re: #714 rlevitin

718 tokyobk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:49:20am

re: #703 Pawn of the Oppressor

I am a registered Democrat and thus on the list. You are absolutely right that there is active solicitation for Obama, very active. Even before the primary was over the vast majority of Dems here were very pro Obama and raising money for him.

719 n in wi  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:49:38am

re: #717 n in wi


And Obama is Obama's best friend.

720 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:49:52am

Leaf by Niggle. Or, better yet, Tree and Leaf which includes Leaf by Niggle. Tolkien was no fool.

721 JustMyView  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:50:11am

re: #645 goddessoftheclassroom

EVERYONE should feel special on his or her birthday. Did the girls have parties, I wonder?

I heard the author of the People interview on TV, and she said that the girls get fairly lavish birthday parties (sleepovers, lots of food, swimming parties), and that those parties constitute their presents. She also said that the girls get Christmas presents from Santa, but not from their parents. Seems like the feasibility of that plan would be coming to an end, given the ages of the girls.

722 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:50:52am

re: #720 Cap'n DOC

Leaf by Niggle. Or, better yet, Tree and Leaf which includes Leaf by Niggle. Tolkien was no fool.

I was just reading that this morning. Why does it come up?

723 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:52:10am

re: #715 ec marm

re: #716 Spider Mensch

All I know about planes is that I've refused to get on one since my United flight came close to hitting another plane at Stapleton years ago. The pilot launched us into an almost-vertical climb. It scared the shit out of everyone.

724 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:52:17am

re: #722 OldLineTexan

The quote.

725 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:52:18am

Uh-oh. Bad news for the democrats and the MSM (but I repeat myself).

Looks like the economy may still be growing.

Orders for durable goods surprise to upside
Capital spending stronger than expected in June after cautious spring

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- New orders for U.S.-made capital goods surprise to the upside in June, signaling that some businesses were still spending despite headwinds from the credit crunch and housing recession.
New orders for durable goods rose 0.8% in June, pushed higher by orders for primary metals, machinery, and electrical equipment, the Commerce Department reported Friday.
Orders in May were revised to a 0.1% gain, compared with no change estimate previously.
Economists surveyed by MarketWatch were looking for a 0.3% fall in durable goods orders in June.

Why is this number important?

Durable goods are big-ticket items designed to last three years or more. As such, new orders are very sensitive to economic expectations and serve as useful leading indicators of growth.

If Obama can stay away from a microphone today we might just had a rising market.

726 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:52:37am

re: #720 Cap'n DOC

Leaf by Niggle. Or, better yet, Tree and Leaf which includes Leaf by Niggle. Tolkien was no fool.

I have that book packed away somewhere1

727 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:53:57am

re: #724 Cap'n DOC

The quote.

Ah, thanks. That got past me.

728 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:54:24am

re: #726 MandyManners

Good reads - both. Tree and Leaf is a scholarly argument for the adult fairy tale as a legitimate literary genre. Tolkien claimed that children don't need fairy tales - adults do.

729 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:54:47am

re: #726 MandyManners

I have that book packed away somewhere1

Good Morning Mandy..how are you today?

730 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:54:54am

Good morning, All.

731 freetoken  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:54:58am

re: #707 ec marm

Weak bomb, thank G-d. Looks like it blew the cargo door off.

Its probably impossible to tell from those few photos from Reuters. However, when I saw the picture of the "workers" inspecting the damage, my first reaction was why have ordinary workers first on the scene to inspect? Are there no bomb specialists who should have looked first for any evidence?

It could have been as Mandy suggested.... just an old airplane and some long developing metal crack finally reached a critical point... but certainly this even would warrant at least an immediate search by security personnel, no?

732 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:55:05am

re: #720 Cap'n DOC

Leaf by Niggle.

RACSIT!111oneoneone

/gyyyyyyud evening...

733 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:55:18am

re: #725 3 wood


If Obama can stay away from a microphone today we might just had a rising market.

Ain't gonna happen.

Somebody somewhere is in need of some afterglow, and Barry (cue sexy music) always makes time for the afterglow.

734 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:55:25am

I feel the pull of the bagel. bbiab

735 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:55:35am

By the way, condoleces to my Cub fan friends, Kerry Wood is now in the DL for the 12th time of his career.

I'm setting the over/under for his 13th visit on the DL at September 20th.

736 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:55:53am

re: #717 n in wi

?

737 n in wi  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:55:55am

re: #725 3 wood

Most economic news includes phrases like "better than expected", "revised upward" or "un expected gains".

738 razorbacker  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:56:49am

I was over at Lileks site this morning, and he as a sentence that sums it up pretty well...The drone of a jet engine outside your window, bearing you to another international conference, does an admirable job of masking the sound of a machete striking bone down below.

Love him or hate him, the boy can write.

739 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:57:01am

re: #731 freetoken
Enlarged image of cargo area.
Yeah. you might think that. But this is Manila in the Philippines, right?

740 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:57:16am

re: #732 laZardo

Hmmm. Tolkien - I think - was far from being racist, although I'd accept your attempt at humor. I'm a Niggle.

741 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:59:10am

re: #733 OldLineTexan

Somebody somewhere is in need of some afterglow, and Barry (cue sexy music) always makes time for the afterglow.

Speaking of which: Obama Love

All the MSM needs is a glass of wine and to turn the lights down low.

742 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:59:14am

re: #721 JustMyView
Please don't confuse the issue with facts. The large print giveth, the small print taketh away. The American people will only remember the large print when they enter the voting booth in November.

743 n in wi  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:59:39am

re: #735 3 wood

Us Brewer fans are so dissapointed.
BTW are there plans for Woods to ever be a starter again?

744 doriangrey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:00:44am

Well later folks, time to amble off to work again...

745 irish rose  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:01:35am

... yeesh, so much for a quiet Friday morning with a cup of coffee.

Greetings to everyone that I missed.

746 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:02:04am

re: #739 ec marm

Enlarged image of cargo area.
Yeah. you might think that. But this is Manila in the Philippines, right?

Something gave way and the panel was sheared off. I doubt there was an explosive, given the location of the failure. It's an aerodynamic feature...there's no primary structure under it, from all appearances.

747 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:02:33am

re: #737 n in wi


Most economic news includes phrases like "better than expected", "revised upward" or "un expected gains".

True, but ignore that kind of verbiage. Some people expect the Cubs to win this year too.

The key is that the statisitics rose, signifying likely longer term growth.

748 JustMyView  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:03:29am

re: #742 ec marm

Please don't confuse the issue with facts. The large print giveth, the small print taketh away. The American people will only remember the large print when they enter the voting booth in November.

Am not sure I get your intent. Perhaps I need more coffee.

749 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:03:40am

re: #746 OldLineTexan

there's no primary structure under it, from all appearances.

But is there supposed to be?

I'm tempted to agree with you, but if there should be structure under it, that could be more evidence of an explosive of some type.

But like I just said, I don't think this is anything more than a structural failure.

750 Tigger2005  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:03:55am

re: #696 MandyManners

Are we spreadking some cash around?

James Bond at work.

751 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:04:48am

Well I've seen alot of private helicopters flying overhead on the way to the track..
You know what that means.. It's NASCAR drivers arriving to practice today. I'm heading out there in a couple hours..
I'll have a cold one for the Lizards sitting in cubes today wishing you were here..
BTW.. If NASCAR drivers really needed the practice they should just drive to the track..really really fast.

752 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:04:53am

re: #695 freetoken

All I've significantly noticed is that they had to evacuate the passengers through the old Terminal 1. They just (and finally) opened the new Terminal 3, the airport authority could have at least used the opportunity to test out its emergency capabilities.

/no teacher like experience.

753 irish rose  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:05:07am

OK, I have donuts here... the GOOD kind.
Made less than an hour ago, my Marine just brought 'em home.

Anyone?

754 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:06:34am

re: #753 irish rose

OK, I have donuts here... the GOOD kind.
Made less than an hour ago, my Marine just brought 'em home.

Anyone?

Do they have sprinkles?
mmmmm..sprinkles...mmmm
/Homer Simpson

755 Spider Mensch  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:06:39am

heheh...just reading pat Dollard and one of the commenters refer to obama as barack "pet rock" obama...lol...the big one in the middle does look a bit like him....
[Link: pigeonbeaks.com...]

but the question remains...who owns that "pet rock"?

756 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:06:42am

re: #740 Cap'n DOC

In this world, few words are spared from the slur label.

757 freetoken  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:06:45am

re: #746 OldLineTexan

Something gave way and the panel was sheared off. I doubt there was an explosive, given the location of the failure. It's an aerodynamic feature...there's no primary structure under it, from all appearances.

The lack of any visual evidence of combustion in those photos would support the idea that this wasn't an explosion.

758 irish rose  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:07:01am

re: #754 HoosierHoops

Do they have sprinkles?
mmmmm..sprinkles...mmmm
/Homer Simpson


No sprinkles.
But the long johns are killer.

759 n in wi  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:07:35am

re: #747 3 wood

I never think the economy is as bad as the party out of power will try to portray it.

760 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:07:42am

re: #743 n in wi

Us Brewer fans are so dissapointed.
BTW are there plans for Woods to ever be a starter again?


I can feel the dissapointment.

No way Wood ever starts again. Above and beyond the injuries, have you noticed the amazing weight loss in the last year or so, along with the dissapearance of that odd case of acne he had? The reason why that happened is the same reason he does not have the strength to start again.

By the way, matching up pitching staffs, I like Sheets-Sabathia a lot more than I like Zambrano-Harden.

Harden is a 2 pitch pitcher now, which is why Billy Bean traded him. Cause of injuries he won't throw the slider anymore. He's got a fastball and a change and that is it. I give the National League hitters about 2 more weeks before they figure that out, them bombs away.

761 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:08:24am

Good morning all y'all - from a pleasant (69 degrees, going up to 91 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone doing this morning?

762 irish rose  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:08:56am

re: #761 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a pleasant (69 degrees, going up to 91 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone doing this morning?

Eating an eclair, yourself?

763 freetoken  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:09:22am

re: #757 freetoken

explosion.

I should have said "explosive device", as technically I guess "explosion" would cover anything that creates an outgoing shock wave.

764 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:09:50am

re: #746 OldLineTexan

Something gave way and the panel was sheared off. I doubt there was an explosive, given the location of the failure. It's an aerodynamic feature...there's no primary structure under it, from all appearances.


Look to the bottom right in the greenish area. I see evidence that something pushed out from inside. Here, I'll box it and make it bigger.

765 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:10:44am

re: #762 irish rose
Good morning Rose! An eclair, eh? I've just finished a couple of powder sugared donuts myself!
I'm doing ok, probably be doing better if I could just wake UP!

766 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:11:03am

re: #759 n in wi

I never think the economy is as bad as the party out of power will try to portray it.

Or the willingness of the MSM to shill for the Dem's.

767 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:11:30am

re: #749 rlevitin

But is there supposed to be?

I'm tempted to agree with you, but if there should be structure under it, that could be more evidence of an explosive of some type.

But like I just said, I don't think this is anything more than a structural failure.

I would imagine not, but I am not familiar with that aircraft.

Given the location, it looks like a "blending" panel betwen the fuselage and the wing root. It may have just been a stiffened section. The primary structure on aircraft that large is not dainty....were it "blown off", I would expect to see mangled bits and more widespread damage, as well as cabling harness, etc. This failure is very clean, right along rivet lines, and there is a mangled section just where a hole or crack would catch the slipstream and get under the panel.

768 n in wi  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:11:37am

re: #760 3 wood

The last 3 games of the season are Cubs at Brewers. The way it should be.
Cubs can get by with adequate pitching with the offense they have.

769 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:12:06am

re: #761 realwest

Expecting the world to go to shit aaaaaany moment now, readying my finger on the account creation button at the Daily Kos in case Obama becomes President and otherwise being pretty gosh-diggety-darned cynical.

In short, Same ol', same ol'.

770 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:12:18am

re: #764 ec marm Hey ec! What is that a photo of (I know it's an aircraft with a hole in it, but that's about all I can tell from the photo)?

771 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:12:30am

re: #714 rlevitin


Of course, that is all well and good in theory, but we have seen what happens in practice.

Just goes to show which of the two methods is most effective. A diplomatic resolution without a ground victory -- as libs love to pursue -- or a ground victory without (necessarily) a diplomatic resolution. I for one prefer the latter.

The most similar historical comparison would be the United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) which was established to secure an end to the 1956 Suez Crisis. Initially 6000 UN troops were stationed in the Sinai to allow this disengagement of Israeli & Egyptian forces. It worked for a while, so long as the Egyptians continued to want peace (or at least not active military operations, as they did continue to support guerrilla operations against Israel during that period). Over time UNEF shrunk due to waning interest from the donating nations, and when in spring of 1967 Egypt re-occupied the Sinai & ordered UNEF to leave, the foreign troops had no alternative but to give up and go. The rest, as they say, is history.

Looking at Lebanon, there are similarities & differences. Yes, there are UN troops ordered to keep the peace, and Lebanese soldiers establishing Lebanese sovereignty in the south. But Hezbollah has been permitted to re-arm without interference from either UNIFIL or the LNA. Hezbollah know the best way for them to re-assert their dominance in the south is not by attacking the Lebanese Army, but by attacking Israel. When Hezbollah decides to attack Israel again, and they will, UNIFIL won't stand in their way & the Lebanese Army will be very reluctant to be seen to be protecting Israel. The difference from 1967 is, Hezbollah won't order UNIFIL to leave. Rather they will use the UN troops as human shields from which to attack the Israelis.

At best UNEF & UNIFIL are band aids applied to staunch the most recent fighting. But the wound remains beneath the dressing and the infection grows. And like a band aid, the presence of UNIFIL hides the fact a deadly gangrene is spreading and threatens the very life of the patient.

772 Carl B  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:12:37am

Good bumper sticker:

NObama

773 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:13:44am

Bulletin for any Bears fans out there, Devin Hester just showed up to camp.

Unfortunately, he still wants to get paid like a #1 receiver and he would not even make a good #3 receiver. But he's a great kick returner.

774 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:13:48am

RealWest is in the House!
Good Morning dude..Here is your cup of Java..

775 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:13:57am

re: #766 3 wood Hey there my friend, how are ya this morning?

776 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:14:39am

re: #770 realwest

Hey ec! What is that a photo of (I know it's an aircraft with a hole in it, but that's about all I can tell from the photo)?


Freetoken caught it:

Any update on the Qantas airline that just had to do an emergency landing in Manilla due to a hole blowing out under fuselage?

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

777 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:03am

re: #769 laZardo
Good morning laZardo! Uh, why are you "Expecting the world to go to shit aaaaaany moment now" ?

778 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:07am

Good morning, all... And speaking of airplanes:

A guy is sitting in the bar in departures at a busy airport. A beautiful woman walks in and sits down at the table next to him. He
decides because she's got a uniform on, she's probably an off-duty flight attendant.

So, he decides to have a go at picking her up by identifying the airline she flies for, thereby impressing her greatly.

He leans across to her and says the Delta Airlines motto: 'We love to fly and it shows.'

The woman looks at him blankly. He sits back and thinks up another line.

He leans forward again and delivers the Air France motto: 'Winning the hearts of the world.'

Again she just stares at him with a slightly puzzled look on her face.

Undeterred, he tries again, this time saying the Malaysian Airlines motto: Going beyond expectations.'

The woman looks at him sternly and says 'What the fuck do you want?'

'Ah!' he says, sitting back with a smile on his face. 'American Airlines'.

779 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:07am

re: #773 3 wood

Bulletin for any Bears fans out there, Devin Hester just showed up to camp.

Unfortunately, he still wants to get paid like a #1 receiver and he would not even make a good #3 receiver. But he's a great kick returner.


ypu..great run back in the superbowl.. i gagged..
Devin for seven

780 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:19am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Don Surber has fisked the Obama speech from yesterday, and it would be nice to see the media do this, but they're frankly too engrossed in the halo to notice that it's nothing but a strategically positioned kleig light that is supposed to blind the clueless and incurious.

781 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:25am

re: #733 OldLineTexan

Somebody somewhere is in need of some afterglow, and Barry (cue sexy music) always makes time for the afterglow.

You called for some Barry?

782 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:17:09am

re: #774 HoosierHoops
Hello HH! Never mind a cup, could ya just stick it in this little ole stent in my forearm for me - I REALLY need an IV of coffee to wake up today!
How are ya?

783 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:17:36am

re: #770 realwest
Add'l:
The flight originated from London to Melbourne, Australia by way of Hong Kong. Had to emergency land in Manila in the Philippines.

784 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:17:44am

re: #777 realwest

For the usual reasons. These days, both turning on the news AND logging onto LGF pretty much remind me of that.

There was perhaps a flying pig moment on BBC World's Hardtalk last night. A "Senior Hamas Adviser" was being interviewed and the host kept asking the question "You think maybe the fact that you guys still have it in your charter to destroy Israel is the reason you're blockaded?".

You can guess how the Adviser "answered" it, which was probably the reason why the host kept asking it.

785 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:17:56am

re: #768 n in wi


The last 3 games of the season are Cubs at Brewers. The way it should be.
Cubs can get by with adequate pitching with the offense they have.


The Cubs play 16 of their last 23 on the road. The Cubs play most of the rest of the season against winning teams. The Brewers play most of the rest of the season against losing teams. Wood is on the DL and Harden is soon to be known for only having 2 pitches anymore (took me 2 games to figure that out).

Just analyzing what I see.

786 Walter Cronanty  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:18:01am

Anybody else read David Brooks' op-ed (in of all places, the NYT - it was linked above for a while). Nice juxtaposition of what JFK and RWR had to say in Berlin (and the context) vs. the banal, saccharine pap BHO shoveled yesterday. When coupled with the Times' satire mentioned above, it appears that there are at least a couple of people in the msm that realize that the Obamessiah has no clothes. Will the fawning talking heads of CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN ever realize that? When coupled with his refusal to meet with the wounded servicemen in Germany because he couldn't get a photo-op and the lack of a "bump" in his poll numbers (although that could come later), it would appear that this sham of a trip may not be as fruitful as BHO expected.

787 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:18:52am

re: #779 HoosierHoops

ypu..great run back in the superbowl.. i gagged..
Devin for seven

It was all good until "Bad Rex" showd up.

788 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:19:22am

re: #764 ec marm

Look to the bottom right in the greenish area. I see evidence that something pushed out from inside. Here, I'll box it and make it bigger.

Mighty small push outs (if they are) to cause a panel to rip off.

I would suspect damage to the cargo bay "walls" caused by poor freight handling.

However, it might be something...if products of explosion released into that little compartment through those holes, the holes should be covered in debris (soot, etc.).

The problem with that is, how do you explain the explosion only happening in one direction? Shaped charges are much messier than those two holes, and would require careful placement to work. A simple bomb should have made a mess in several directions.

789 HoosierHoops  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:19:35am

re: #782 realwest

Hello HH! Never mind a cup, could ya just stick it in this little ole stent in my forearm for me - I REALLY need an IV of coffee to wake up today!
How are ya?

Good Morning Real..Getting ready to head out to the track today
To Watch NASCAR practice.. ( and drink some cold beer )

790 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:20:01am

re: #776 ec marm WOW! I hadn't heard of that yet (Way to go Freetoken!) - so I'd speculate that folks are speculatin' that it was either a bomb or an anti-aircraft missle?

791 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:20:09am

re: #781 Kenneth

You called for some Barry?

I have all the Barry I can ever use by now.

Last night, I resisted registering a sock for myself, BarryMeNot.

792 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:20:16am

BBIAM!

793 big steve  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:20:37am

re: #745 irish rose

... yeesh, so much for a quiet Friday morning with a cup of coffee.

Greetings to everyone that I missed.

So how ya feeling these days Rose.....

794 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:20:54am

re: #775 realwest


Hey there my friend, how are ya this morning?

Pretty fair. You and I tee off about 2 pm Sunday, so get ready.

I been popping ibuprophen, so the shoulder should make it through.

795 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:21:58am

re: #792 realwest

K!

796 irish rose  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:22:50am

re: #793 big steve

So how ya feeling these days Rose.....

I'm fine, thanks.

797 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:23:35am

Funny... the one good thing Obama said in his speech in Berlin was that Germany & NATO must send more troops to Afghanistan. German public opinion is very strongly against that idea and the German gov't has signaled they won't be sending any more troops.

In other words, the Anti-Americanism so rife in Europe which is now focused upon that warmonger Bush, will soon be directed at Obama. Love is so fickle, Barry.

798 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:24:57am

re: #756 laZardo

Well, the chart is useful, I'll grant you that.

799 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:24:57am

re: #797 Kenneth

Funny... the one good thing Obama said in his speech in Berlin was that Germany & NATO must send more troops to Afghanistan. German public opinion is very strongly against that idea and the German gov't has signaled they won't be sending any more troops.

In other words, the Anti-Americanism so rife in Europe which is now focused upon that warmonger Bush, will soon be directed at Obama. Love is so fickle, Barry.

We should've bought the East German Army when it went up for sale.

800 n in wi  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:25:15am

re: #785 3 woodThe early schedule favored the Cubs and late schedule favors the Brewers. In a way I would like to see the last 3 games of the season determine the division champ. On the other hand I would like to see the division wrapped up by the so  the bullpen can be rested for the playoffs. As far as 2 pitch pitchers go , I've seen plenty with Brewer uniforms on. Turnbow,Plesac,Cappuano.

801 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:27:30am

re: #788 OldLineTexan


The problem with that is, how do you explain the explosion only happening in one direction? Shaped charges are much messier than those two holes, and would require careful placement to work. A simple bomb should have made a mess in several directions.


Makes sense. Ground crew member?

802 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:28:08am

re: #797 Kenneth

On the ticker today at CNN: "Obama wins hearts, but not minds, in Berlin"

/weird how things work out...

803 razorbacker  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:29:13am

Now this is rich, this is...

Treat muslims better, UK urged.

The nine-member human rights committee composed of legal experts, said it was concerned "negative public attitudes towards Muslim members of society" continued to be allowed in Britain.

The best definition of 'expert' is the old redneck one.

'ex', a has-been.

'spurt', a drip under pressure.

'expert', a has-been drip under pressure.

The spelling's off, but the definition seems spot-on.

804 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:29:22am

re: #791 OldLineTexan

Nice nic for your sock-puppet. But don't knock Barry White, he packs extra-strength seduction.

For prescription use only. Side effects may include swelling, soreness, slurred speech and cheesiness. Consult your doctor if Barry White is right for you.

805 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:30:06am

re: #780 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk! Yeah, the three "anchors" (around the neck of their networks ) are gazing at the halo like they'd dropped acid or something - NEVER heard or saw such totally biased favor in the Media as in the Barry trip.

BTW, any ideas where Barry and Michelle are going shopping - I mean, since they won't be visting the two US military bases and especially the Military Hospital in Rhinesdorf (sp?)? I hear Paris has some good buys in late July from all the couture shops there.

806 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:31:16am

re: #783 ec marm
Thanks ec, got that from the story you were kind enough to link to.
So was it a bomb or a missle? Hmmmm?!

807 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:32:01am

re: #802 laZardo

On the ticker today at CNN: "Obama wins hearts, but not minds, in Berlin"

/weird how things work out...

How many electoral college votes does Germany have? Obama's ego trip plays well only with his fan base. It's turning off a lot of other Americans.

808 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:32:11am

re: #800 n in wi

As far as 2 pitch pitchers go , I've seen plenty with Brewer uniforms on. Turnbow,Plesac,Cappuano.

Correct. And against good hitting teams having only 2 pitches is called batting practice. You give a major league hitter the advantage of looking fastball and only having to adjust to one other pitch and there will be a fist fight at the bat rack to get at that pitcher.

809 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:32:23am

re: #784 laZardo

For the usual reasons. These days, both turning on the news AND logging onto LGF pretty much remind me of that.

There was perhaps a flying pig moment on BBC World's Hardtalk last night. A "Senior Hamas Adviser" was being interviewed and the host kept asking the question "You think maybe the fact that you guys still have it in your charter to destroy Israel is the reason you're blockaded?".

You can guess how the Adviser "answered" it, which was probably the reason why the host kept asking it.

Which begs the question, since they love to lie oh so much... why don't they just modify their charter and continue working towards that goal.

That actually makes me wonder, how would Israel respond if Hamas did change its charter?

810 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:32:34am

re: #784 laZardo Huh, it sounds as if you need a break from the news for a while - seriously, think about taking say 3 days off from the media and - if you can bear it - LGF just to get grounded again.

811 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:33:00am

re: #807 Kenneth

I was disappointed though. I would have at least expected him to have quoted JFK by calling himself a jelly doughnut.

/German language semantics joke, for those who missed it.

812 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:33:30am

re: #783 ec marm

They're calling it an explosive decompression, but that doesn't necessarily mean a bomb - a hatch or metal fatigue could have resulted in the problem.

The crew managed to safely land the plane. Kudos to them. It was a disaster averted.

813 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:33:35am

re: #800 n in wi


In a way I would like to see the last 3 games of the season determine the division champ.

I think by that time the Brewers will have it sewed up.

814 ciaospirit  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:20am

re: #794 3 wood

Have you talked to BabbaZee lately? How is she? I miss her.

815 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:30am

re: #808 3 wood

Umm... Mariano Rivera throws basically two pitches... and he's going to be a HOFer... a cutter and a fastball.

You know it's coming and you still can't hit it.

816 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:38am

re: #789 HoosierHoops I know I'm living in NASCAR's homeland and all that, but what's there to practice - how to turn left?!
Uh, er, I mean well - once they go for a spin around the track a few times to see the condition of the track and of their car, what is there to practice?!

817 razorbacker  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:35:16am

See all y'all when I take a break.

Got all the outlets wired yesterday, and the tester indicates power where it should be (I know, I was surprised, too).

Today I plan to get the last of the drywall up, and maybe some tile on the shower walls.

And this weekend, a trip back to Arkansas2 to kick it with old friends and family. I can hardly wait.

818 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:35:19am

re: #816 realwest

Drafting and Ricky Bobby impersonations. q:

/World Rally fan...

819 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:35:50am

re: #801 ec marm

Makes sense. Ground crew member?

I'm sorry, I do not understand the question.

820 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:36:30am

Evil not confronted, grows

It was surprising to learn that Osama bin Laden was, in the days immediately after the Soviet retreat from Afghanistan, extremely squeamish about shedding noncombatant blood. His reluctance to shed blood was rooted in religious prohibitions. The story of his gradual journey towards unlimited warfare was shadowed by religious doctrinal changes which he himself promulgated in order to justify his new policies.

Bin Laden lifted the restrictions on targeting noncombatants in 1997 — long before September 11 — during the depths of the Clinton Administration, and during the height of optimism about the “End of History” and the triumph of the European Union. In the midst of this self-congratulatory period, Osama bin Laden was declaring war on America. Not the US military, not the CIA, but every man, woman and child in the USA.

...It is unlikely that the road will stop here. There will probably be more iterations in al-Qaeda’s policy toward civilians Recently, some al-Qaeda ideologues have proposed random civilian attacks in the West, because the opinion of infidel civilians is ostensibly less relevant to their organizational viability than the attitudes of Pashtuns or tribesmen in Anbar. But it is also entirely possible that the shock of combat with US forces has made a lasting impression on al-Qaeda’s organizational memory.

While much of the debate over military strategy (especially by Presidential candidates) has dealt with the kinetic battlefields — numbers of brigades in Iraq versus Afghanistan for example — it is possible that the future strategies of al-Qaeda will avoid direct confrontations. Lawfare, proselytization, propaganda, etc may play an increasing role in their strategy and their corresponding means of coercion may evolve to emphasize targeted coercion rather than public displays of terror. Although al-Qaeda may continue its campaign of overt terrorism, a significant component of their activity may move into the background. This has always been the case and may become more so in the future.

821 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:36:45am

re: #810 realwest

Huh, it sounds as if you need a break from the news for a while - seriously, think about taking say 3 days off from the media and - if you can bear it - LGF just to get grounded again.

You know, its amazing. I try bringing up just a FRACTION of the stuff that I hear about/read about/learn about on LGF to my friends, and the vast majority of them can't bear it.

They get all quiet and depressed and I end up changing the topic of conversation.

You really have to grow a thick skin and have an optimistic outlook on life to force yourself to go plow through all the human idiocy uncovered here.

822 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:37:35am

re: #794 3 wood That's great - 2:00PM Sunday it is and............waitaminute - wth is this you're popping ibuprofen for your shoulder? If it hurts that much, we ought not be out there swinging a golf club, ya know?
Seriously, lets do something like I dunno, bowling,
table tennis, real tennis,
go watch a ball game or something?

823 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:37:41am

re: #814 ciaospirit

Have you talked to BabbaZee lately? How is she? I miss her.


Yes, you can find her at her blog.

824 irish rose  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:37:49am

Gotta run lizards, have a great day!

825 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:38:05am

re: #805 realwest

Well, the Champs Elysees is very nice this time of year, though if they scheduled the trip for another two weeks, they could have been there for the TdF wrapping up.

As you say, lots of couture shops, but with the weak dollar, not nearly as good as if you went to Woodbury Commons in NYS.

Obama canned his appearances with the troops because he wouldn't be able to use the appearances as props in his campaign.

Priorities.

He's got an election to win that will make him commander in chief, but he doesn't have time to meet with the troops. No wonder the troops appear to overwhelmingly support McCain.

826 ciaospirit  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:38:39am

Gavin Newsome ought to face charges right along with the illegal hoodlum.

SAN FRANCISCO - The scene repeats itself daily on city streets: a driver gets stuck bumper to bumper, blocking an intersection and preventing another car from turning left.

But authorities say that was enough to cause Edwin Ramos to unload an AK-47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing them.

The deaths immediately drew public outrage, which intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law.

The case has put San Francisco's liberal politics to the test, setting off a debate over its sanctuary law that shields undocumented immigrants from deportation.

827 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:38:56am

re: #824 irish rose

Gotta run lizards, have a great day!

Enjoy your Marine!

828 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:39:50am

re: #815 lawhawk

Umm... Mariano Rivera throws basically two pitches... and he's going to be a HOFer... a cutter and a fastball.

You know it's coming and you still can't hit it.

I'm talking starters, you are talking reliever.

Rivera throws maybe one inning and ususally only comes in with a lead.

Big difference.

A starter has got to have a 3rd pitch to survive in the bigs.

829 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:40:35am

re: #802 laZardo
Hmmm, why do I sense a disconnect between what you said here and in what you "said" in your #795?!
C'mon champ, we need you rested for the DNC cage match!

830 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:41:10am

Morning All,
So what did obama's prayer letter say? Anyone know?

831 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:42:15am

re: #819 OldLineTexan

I'm sorry, I do not understand the question.


Sorry. I know it's a little tin-foil hat-ish, but I meant that someone working on the ground crew in London could have placed a shaped charge device near that location.

832 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:43:05am

re: #821 rlevitin

You know, its amazing. I try bringing up just a FRACTION of the stuff that I hear about/read about/learn about on LGF to my friends, and the vast majority of them can't bear it.

They get all quiet and depressed and I end up changing the topic of conversation.

You really have to grow a thick skin and have an optimistic outlook on life to force yourself to go plow through all the human idiocy uncovered here.

Or, take a daily dose of this.

833 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:43:18am

re: #830 newsjunkie_ky

Morning All,
So what did obama's prayer letter say? Anyone know?

"LORD,
Grant me the serenity to CHANGE the things I cannot accept,
the courage to CHANGE everything else,
and the wisdom HOPE to not mind the difference."

834 3 wood  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:43:41am

re: #822 realwest

wth is this you're popping ibuprofen for your shoulder? If it hurts that much, we ought not be out there swinging a golf club, ya know?
Seriously, lets do something like I dunno, bowling,
table tennis, real tennis, go watch a ball game or something?

The torn rotator cuff is acting up a bit, I tweaked it moving furniture around the house for the Mrs. I'll see how it goes after Sunday. If the shoulder hurts as much next week as it did this week, I may put the clubs away for the rest of the season.

I learned to play hurt in college, but there is not sense in pushing things.

835 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:43:48am

re: #829 realwest

I'm ready to fight if need be. In fact, I'm sparring with an Obamaton complaining about why McCain isn't getting skewered enough on a political thread as we speak

I'm just saying that I'm not the captain if the ship sinks.

836 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:44:13am

re: #831 ec marm

Sorry. I know it's a little tin-foil hat-ish, but I meant that someone working on the ground crew in London could have placed a shaped charge device near that location.

Oh...unlikely, but again, there should be plenty of chemical evidence if there was an explosion of any sort.

837 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:44:51am

He ventured forth to bring light to the world

The anointed one's pilgrimage to the Holy Land is a miracle in action - and a blessing to all his faithful followers

by Gerard Baker

And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.

The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.

Oh my word, this is great satire. Do yourself a favor and RTWFT!

838 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:46:22am

re: #837 Kenneth

RTWFT = Read The Whole F'n Thing?

839 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:46:55am

re: #837 Kenneth

I read that on Michelle Malkin this morning and laughed my ass off...Someone posted it in the spin offs. It's absolutely hilarious.

840 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:47:46am

re: #828 3 wood

Ah starters? Okay, you're pretty much right when focusing on starters.

841 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:48:12am

re: #837 Kenneth

Verily!

/still snickering

842 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:48:22am

re: #821 rlevitin
Well, I've found having a thick skin helps with getting through life ANYWHERE!
But I do know what you mean - I'm on LGF, Mom is listening to Fox and when I go in for lunch or whatever, it's like "PULEEZE turn off FOX! I've had enough for today!" Course, that condition only lasts until around 11 PM or so when I have to start taking my boatload of night time meds, and so I come on LGF to see what's going on.
But it DOES irritate and annoy me NO END that non-LGFer's are - for the most part - so uniformed.
I've literally had to walk away from conversations with good, decent folk who just don't have clue!

843 hydrocarbon hank  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:48:41am

re: #837 Kenneth

844 theparson  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:48:44am

What's the difference in a dead lawyer in the road and a dead skunk in the road?
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There's skid marks in front of the skunk.

845 Kenneth  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:49:24am

re: #838 rlevitin

Yup.

re: #839 WriterMom

In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.

LOL!

846 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:50:03am

re: #825 lawhawk
True, true. "No wonder the troops appear to overwhelmingly support McCain." And why the troops apparently overwhelmingly prefer to watch FOX.

847 rightwinger3  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:51:15am

re: #842 realwest

Well, I've found having a thick skin helps with getting through life ANYWHERE!
But I do know what you mean - I'm on LGF, Mom is listening to Fox and when I go in for lunch or whatever, it's like "PULEEZE turn off FOX! I've had enough for today!" Course, that condition only lasts until around 11 PM or so when I have to start taking my boatload of night time meds, and so I come on LGF to see what's going on.
But it DOES irritate and annoy me NO END that non-LGFer's are - for the most part - so uniformed.
I've literally had to walk away from conversations with good, decent folk who just don't have clue!

No Pun Intended right, realwest? They are uniformly uninformed!

848 theparson  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:51:19am

What's the difference in a man eating shark and a lawyer?
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Nothing!

849 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:51:21am

re: #830 newsjunkie_ky
Good morning to you! Uh, what prayer letter?

850 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:52:13am
851 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:52:46am

re: #832 MandyManners
Morning Mandy! Say, you wouldn't know where I could get say a gross of those capsules, would ya?
My local CVS and Walgreen's don't have 'em - I've asked!

852 n in wi  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:52:53am

re: #828 3 wood

2 pitches can be effective one time ,at most through the line up. To be a starter you need a 3rd or 4th pitch to show major league hitters to get into the 6th or 7th innings.

853 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:52:56am

re: #850 taxfreekiller

go hump a stump

LOL.

TFK, tell us how you really feel!

854 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:53:05am

re: #847 rightwinger3

No Pun Intended right, realwest? They are uniformly uninformed!

I caught that pun too, I was trying to come up with a good way of putting it, but you beat me to it!

855 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:53:26am

re: #850 taxfreekiller

Chris, go hump a stump, you little money whore.

I like it!

856 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:53:59am

re: #835 laZardo
Which ship and who said you ain't the Captain?!

857 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:54:50am

re: #855 MandyManners

GMTA...but it doesn't have to be specific to Chris Matthews. I am SO LIBERATING that one.

858 rlevitin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:55:26am

re: #849 realwest

Good morning to you! Uh, what prayer letter?

It is customary for anyone (politicians especially) visiting the western wall in jerusalem to write a prayer on a pad of paper and place it in a hole in the wall.

(s)he's wondering what Obama would have written.

859 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:55:54am

re: #826 ciaospirit

Gavin Newsome ought to face charges right along with the illegal hoodlum.
SAN FRANCISCO - The scene repeats itself daily on city streets: a driver gets stuck bumper to bumper, blocking an intersection and preventing another car from turning left.
But authorities say that was enough to cause Edwin Ramos to unload an AK-47 assault weapon on a man and his two sons, killing them.

The deaths immediately drew public outrage, which intensified when authorities revealed that Ramos, 21, is an illegal immigrant who managed to avoid deportation despite previous brushes with the law.

The case has put San Francisco's liberal politics to the test, setting off a debate over its sanctuary law that shields undocumented immigrants from deportation.

It's not the undocumented guest who's at fault, it the gun's fault. Legalize the poor man, but outlaw the gun!
/typical liberal person

860 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:56:13am

re: #837 Kenneth Morning Kenneth! I've bookmarked it for later - I can't afford to fall very far behind in the comments here! LOL!
How are you (other than chortling at that column) eh?

861 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:56:18am

re: #858 rlevitin

It is customary for anyone (politicians especially) visiting the western wall in jerusalem to write a prayer on a pad of paper and place it in a hole in the wall.

(s)he's wondering what Obama would have written.

I heard someone took it. Has the contents been revealed yet?

862 rhino2  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:56:47am

Morning lizards,

13.5 hour day yesterday and man am I ready for the weekend.

863 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:57:07am
864 laZardo  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:57:07am

re: #856 realwest

The site, and Charles is the captain. q;

865 JCM  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:57:14am

Morning *yawn*

Where's the hatchling with my coffee?

*scratch* *scratch*

Mr. Mom day, wife's out this weekend collecting CEUs. It's just me and he horde.

866 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:57:28am

re: #861 Nevergiveup

I heard someone took it. Has the contents been revealed yet?

How crass if true.

867 ec marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:57:30am

re: #850 taxfreekiller
Laying off the illegal immingrates today?

868 JCM  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:57:42am

re: #858 rlevitin

It is customary for anyone (politicians especially) visiting the western wall in jerusalem to write a prayer on a pad of paper and place it in a hole in the wall.

(s)he's wondering what Obama would have written.

Make me, President....
Or else.

869 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:58:31am

re: #847 rightwinger3 Yeah, right. Thanks. Thought I could get away with it but Nooooooo some smart ass Marine has to come along and POINT IT OUT!
LOL!

870 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:58:32am

Obama's note in the Kotel:

"Dear Dad...."

871 WriterMom  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:58:59am

I CRACK MYSELF UP.

872 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:59:00am

re: #857 WriterMom

GMTA...but it doesn't have to be specific to Chris Matthews. I am SO LIBERATING that one.

I'm gonna' liberate that one, too.

873 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:59:07am

re: #868 JCM

Make me, President....
Or else.

Maybe he threatened to run for G-D's job?

874 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:59:38am

re: #848 theparson
As a retired lawyer, I have to advise you that you ought to lay off the lawyer jokes - cause you'll either get sued or shot, depending on where you're at!

875 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:59:58am

re: #858 rlevitin

It is customary for anyone (politicians especially) visiting the western wall in jerusalem to write a prayer on a pad of paper and place it in a hole in the wall.

(s)he's wondering what Obama would have written.

Obama left a prayer? I assumed that he only accepted prayers.

876 rightwinger3  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:00:05am

re: #869 realwest

Yeah, right. Thanks. Thought I could get away with it but Nooooooo some smart ass Marine has to come along and POINT IT OUT!
LOL!

Ha. That's what I'm here for, you know!

877 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:00:48am

re: #870 WriterMom

Obama's note in the Kotel:

"Dear Dad...."

Upding for that. I started to write the same thing but my irreverence alarm kicked in (I'll have to get it checked out, normally I would not have stopped typing)

878 JCM  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:00:49am

re: #873 Nevergiveup

Maybe he threatened to run for G-D's job?

Pffttt. silly us he is god......
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879 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:00:57am

re: #861 Nevergiveup

I heard someone took it. Has the contents been revealed yet?

That is disgusting.

880 JCM  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:01:41am

re: #874 realwest

As a retired lawyer, I have to advise you that you ought to lay off the lawyer jokes - cause you'll either get sued or shot, depending on where you're at!

Wait, let me get some popcorn this will be good, a lawyer and a law man.

881 jorline  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:01:46am

Good morning all... the suns out and it's a beautiful day by the bay.

882 rhino2  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:01:49am

re: #879 MandyManners

That is disgusting.

And amazingly unsurprising.

883 realwest  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:02:23am

re: #858 rlevitin What?
You mean to think the Obamessiah would actually leave his written thoughts on a piece of paper that someone could grab out of the hole in the Wall?
NO WAY.