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Tech Note: Ajax and Timers and Tunes

Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 3:52:18 pm PDT

The “Now Playing” section of our left sidebar, which is set up to show the music or other weird sounds that are currently playing in iTunes on my machine, now updates in an “almost live” fashion. With Ajax and a Javascript timer, it checks the server every 20 seconds to see if there’s been a song change, then does a fade-in effect with any new artwork and song info.

The Ajax code on the server sends back a very small JSON message if the song hasn’t changed since the last check, to keep server impact to a minimum. So far, on a Friday afternoon with traffic down a bit because everyone’s been bludgeoned into political comas by this endless week of Obamaton grandstanding, the web server doesn’t seem to be struggling at all.

On a related subject, I still get occasional email asking how to hear the music that shows up under “Now Playing.” Well, I can’t stream it here without paying absurd licensing fees through the usual suspects, of course. Anyone remember Napster? No? That’s why.

The album cover is a link to the record’s page at Amazon, though, and they usually supply some kind of preview. If the album’s available in their MP3 Store, you can listen to samples right there. So that’s better than nothing, if you’re really curious about why I’m listening to that horrible Rob Zombie album again.

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1 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:54:40pm

I like Rob Zombie.

2 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:56:13pm

I was noticing this just a few minutes ago and figured there was some ajax involved. Nice to know I'm not going insane......yet.

3 libertyvista  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:57:02pm

Or you can try grooveshark.com

For example, Tommy Emmanuel:
[Link: listen.grooveshark.com...]

4 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:57:20pm

rob zombie very nice!

5 Sundog  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 3:59:42pm

It's your site, Charles, but I've never quite understood why you want it to have a feature that only generates more stupid e-mails for you to deal with.

6 grumpy old codger  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:00:44pm

Music is haram! Please report to the reeducation/decapitation center for immediate rectification of you error!

7 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:00:56pm

Ajax and Timers and Tunes -- Oh My!

/somebody had to do it...

8 calvin coolidge  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:01:27pm

If the songs don't work out I'll sing a chorus of "Hail to the Chief" and I won't even charge you any licensing fees.

9 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:01:39pm

Avatar test...

10 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:01:48pm

re: #5 Sundog

29 comments since Oct. 2004? Pick it up slacker!
/

11 Charles  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:02:07pm

re: #5 Sundog

It's your site, Charles, but I've never quite understood why you want it to have a feature that only generates more stupid e-mails for you to deal with.

It's a thing known as "fun," which for inexplicable reasons seems to interest some humans.

12 grumpy old codger  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:03:07pm

re: #11 Charles
Fun is also haram. Double time it to the reeducation/decapitation center!

13 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:03:19pm

re: #11 Charles

What is this 'fun' you speak of?

14 wong fei hung  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:04:19pm

Here's my favorite Rob Zombie lyric:

"YEEEEAH!"

-WFH

15 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:05:06pm

re: #14 wong fei hung

Good thing it's your favorite, he uses it A LOT!

16 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:05:56pm

re: #5 Sundog

I like the feature. Because of it, I've come to find some great music and/or bands I might not have discovered otherwise. So....thanks, Charles!

17 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:06:21pm

Charles

I've noticed that people sometimes accidentally ding a post up or down in the wrong direction due to a mouse "slip"-- was thinking that if you put the "ding count" between the down-ding (-) and the up-ding (+) buttons, it might help reduce the errors...

/have thought that for a while, can't remember if I've ever suggested it though

18 Thanos  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:08:26pm

Sorry for the AP link up there, but they are the only ones carrying the story atm.

19 wong fei hung  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:08:27pm

re: #15 CyanSnowHawk

YEEEEAH!

-WFH

(also a big favorite of Howie Dean's)

20 GeeWiz  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:09:23pm

re: #5 Sundog

Your nic reminds me of a game, years ago, that I spent many hours of my youth on. Great game!

21 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:09:49pm

re: #17 christheprofessor

Charles

I've noticed that people sometimes accidentally ding a post up or down in the wrong direction due to a mouse "slip"-- was thinking that if you put the "ding count" between the down-ding (-) and the up-ding (+) buttons, it might help reduce the errors...

/have thought that for a while, can't remember if I've ever suggested it though

As one who has occasionally (and to my great embarrassment) made an accidental ding up or down, I have to tell you that unless he moves the "plus" to one side, and the "minus" to the complete other side of the bar, I'm not at all sure that a small change in the location of these things will help us out any. Speaking for myself . . . I just really have to pay better attention.

22 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:11:30pm

re: #21 reine.de.tout

Dude -- you've seriously got to cut back on the drinking! ;)

23 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:12:50pm

re: #22 christheprofessor

Dude -- you've seriously got to cut back on the drinking! ;)

ahem . . . dudette, please.

24 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:12:50pm

re: #21 reine.de.tout

I can just see myself hitting either + or - when I try to click the number.

25 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:13:23pm

re: #23 reine.de.tout

ahem . . . dudette, please.

Doh! Maybe I need to cut back... ;)

26 stevieray  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:13:45pm

This looks like a good spot for some Alice in Chains.

27 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:13:46pm

re: #23 reine.de.tout

ahem . . . dudette, please.

I think it was the cox e-mail addy that threw him.

28 Racer X  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:15:04pm

re: #22 christheprofessor

You're welcome!

29 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:15:31pm

So, I put together a Bolognese Meat Sauce* this morning in the slow cooker. Have to say, wasn't impressed at first but it is smelling damn good about now....

*it's nothing like the traditional southern Italian sauce my family makes...

30 Lee Coller  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:15:40pm

re: #21 reine.de.tout

As one who has occasionally (and to my great embarrassment) made an accidental ding up or down, I have to tell you that unless he moves the "plus" to one side, and the "minus" to the complete other side of the bar, I'm not at all sure that a small change in the location of these things will help us out any. Speaking for myself . . . I just really have to pay better attention.

The ability to undo would also solve this problem. Also -- I've always thought one should be able to ding down ones own post.

31 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:16:11pm

re: #28 Racer X

You're welcome!

Ha! That's excellent!

32 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:16:53pm

re: #25 christheprofessor

Doh! Maybe I need to cut back... ;)

:)

33 sundaydriver  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:17:08pm

Curious:
Why aren't you reporting on Obama's criticism on Israels new colonization plans? Cuz it sounds to me like a flip-flop. Or am i wrong?

34 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:17:44pm

re: #27 VegasRick

I think it was the cox e-mail addy that threw him.

LOL! Prolly so . . .

35 stevieray  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:19:01pm

Smurfs?!

36 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:19:13pm

re: #33 sundaydriver

Colonization?

37 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:19:18pm

re: #33 sundaydriver

?

38 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:20:08pm

*whack* on #33 in 5.. 4.. 3.. 2..

39 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:20:08pm

re: #33 sundaydriver

Curious:
Why aren't you reporting on Obama's criticism on Israels new colonization plans? Cuz it sounds to me like a flip-flop. Or am i wrong?

Linky link?

40 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:20:26pm

re: #17 christheprofessor

Charles

I've noticed that people sometimes accidentally ding a post up or down in the wrong direction due to a mouse "slip"-- was thinking that if you put the "ding count" between the down-ding (-) and the up-ding (+) buttons, it might help reduce the errors...

/have thought that for a while, can't remember if I've ever suggested it though

are you saying some lizards might be having a hang ding or a dimpled ding

or just a ding-a-ling?

41 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:20:37pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

If I click your nic, am I gonna get rick rolled?

42 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:20:37pm

re: #33 sundaydriver

Curious:
Why aren't you reporting on Obama's criticism on Israels new colonization plans? Cuz it sounds to me like a flip-flop. Or am i wrong?

What did he say?

43 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:21:02pm

re: #33 sundaydriver

Curious:
Why aren't you reporting on Obama's criticism on Israels new colonization plans? Cuz it sounds to me like a flip-flop. Or am i wrong?

Because the arabs haven't started another war which they'll lose?

44 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:21:12pm

re: #41 christheprofessor

Almost as bad, it's techno.

45 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:21:14pm

re: #35 stevieray

Smurfs?!

Sexist! Some of us are Smurfettes.

46 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:21:55pm

Conventional Wisdom:
Radon in the basement. Bad.
Beautiful granite countertops. Good.

Except for one thing. The granite gives off radiation and radon gas. Reporter has her counter tested:

The Environmental Protection Agency says a reading below 2 picocuries per liter is considered safe for radon gas. The levels in my kitchen are 240 picocuries per liter. The EPA says that poses the same risk of cancer as smoking 30 packs of cigarettes per day. [Link: wcbstv.com...]


Oops. I smell lawsuits.

47 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:21:58pm

re: #40 yochanan

are you saying some lizards might be having a hang ding or a dimpled ding

or just a ding-a-ling?

You'd have to ask Chuck Berry. Or perhaps Dingle Berry... ;)

48 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:22:09pm

re: #45 Sharmuta

Sexist! Some of us are Smurfettes.


sharmuta just wants you to ring her doorbell


OR IS THAT RING HER CHARMS?

49 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:22:10pm

re: #45 Sharmuta

Sexist! Some of us are Smurfettes.

Technically, only one was a Smurfette.

50 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:22:30pm

re: #45 Sharmuta

Sexist! Some of us are Smurfettes.

you know, I have a pink crown in a pink sky over a round earth, and my name is reine, and people still confuse me for a dude.

What's a girl to do?

51 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:22:37pm

re: #44 Killgore Trout

Almost as bad, it's techno.

I'd guess (without clicking on it) -- worse!

52 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:23:01pm

re: #49 CyanSnowHawk

No- there was a little red-headed smurf girl towards the end of their run.

53 sundaydriver  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:23:24pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

sorry; Olmert's work on new settlements on the west-bank ('Maskiyot'). I might have been to quick posting my earlier question. The same plan already had strong American criticism two years ago.

target="_blank">[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

54 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:23:40pm

re: #50 reine.de.tout

LOL- I really thought the avatars would help.

55 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:23:40pm

re: #46 EC Marm

Conventional Wisdom:
Radon in the basement. Bad.
Beautiful granite countertops. Good.

Except for one thing. The granite gives off radiation and radon gas. Reporter has her counter tested:

Oops. I smell lawsuits.

We have granite counter tops. So does that mean I might as well smoke?

56 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:23:47pm

re: #50 reine.de.tout

you know, I have a pink crown in a pink sky over a round earth, and my name is reine, and people still confuse me for a dude.

What's a girl to do?

YOU SHOULD NOT ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE QUESTION.

57 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:23:54pm

re: #52 Sharmuta

I quite watching after they jumped the shark.
/

58 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:24:08pm

re: #48 yochanan

No- I make you pay for the charms.

59 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:25:02pm

re: #56 yochanan

YOU SHOULD NOT ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU ARE AFRAID OF THE QUESTION.

It's the answer I might not like.

Yochanan - why are you yelling at me?

60 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:25:08pm

re: #46 EC Marm

Conventional Wisdom:
Radon in the basement. Bad.
Beautiful granite countertops. Good.

Except for one thing. The granite gives off radiation and radon gas. Reporter has her counter tested:

Oops. I smell lawsuits.

I smell BS, (saw the report early) levels very low on only a few samples. Entirely funded by two big artificial granite makers. Any nature stone will have measurable radioactivity the amount will depend on the source.

61 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:25:23pm

re: #55 Nevergiveup

We have granite counter tops. So does that mean I might as well smoke?

That means you burned the pot roast!

62 godfrey  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:25:36pm

Haim Hadad Hadar playing "Reine de Musette", a French classic of musette.

63 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:26:13pm

Gotta let a buddy's Chesapeake Bay Retriever out (he and his wife are outta town)...

BBIAB

64 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:26:21pm

re: #59 reine.de.tout

who is yelling i am just hard of haring

65 sundaydriver  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:27:04pm

re: #39 VegasRick

I think that Israel should abide by previous agreements and commitments that have been made, and aggressive settlement construction would seem to violate the spirit at least, if not the letter, of agreements that have been made previously.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

66 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:27:21pm

re: #64 yochanan

who is yelling i am just hard of haring

That's ok I can hardly sea.

67 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:27:44pm

re: #64 yochanan

who is yelling i am just hard of haring

And hard of spelling, too, eh?

(just tryin' to yank yer chain a little bit . . . )

68 Pygmalienation  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:28:23pm

Charles, your music features are great! You've also brought well deserved attention to some really fine music. Some of the classics (the jazz, etc--and especially the '70's vintage stuff) remind me of all the great vinyl from my HS days that I need to replace since an old girlfriend absconded with it a few years back... I can still remember wearing the grooves out of the Return to Forever, Stanley Clarke, Keith Jarrett, Chick Corea albums back then.

The music features are a nice respite from the heavy stuff going on in the World.
Again, Thanks.

69 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:28:24pm

re: #67 reine.de.tout

spelling marms will be shot at down esp during drinking threads.

70 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:29:26pm

if you yank a chain don't be surprised if you hear a flush.

71 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:30:12pm

re: #53 sundaydriver
Obama: settlement expansion unhelpful

"As a general proposition, the Israelis sitting down with the Palestinians in Annapolis and in previous agreements have recognized that that these settlements are not helpful," Obama said, referring to the latest round of talks launched last November in Annapolis, Md. "I think its import for the Israel to abide their agreements regarding settlements" just as Palestinians must keep their promise to crack down on terrorism, he said. Obama said U.S. involvement was also critical.

He would not be drawn into an apology for spending a day in Israel this week while he only spent an hour on the West Bank, saying that he had met with Palestinians on a previous visit.

It's not really a flip flop. I don't know If Obama has ever supported the settlements in the West Bank.

72 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:30:19pm

re: #69 yochanan

spelling marms will be shot at down esp during drinking threads.

OOPS. I need to go find a margarita . . . won't be making any dings because I'm sure I'll make a dadgum ding-dong ding down mistake or two before the night's over . . .

73 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:30:44pm

re: #70 yochanan

You crack me up!

74 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:31:42pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Obama: settlement expansion unhelpful


It's not really a flip flop. I don't know If Obama has ever supported the settlements in the West Bank.

No- he said this issue was a "constant sore".

75 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:32:06pm

An idea whose time has come.....
Catholic Groups Ask Pope to End Birth Control Ban


More than 50 dissident Catholic groups from around the world have written an open letter asking Pope Benedict XVI to lift the church's ban on birth control.

Taking a half-page ad in the Italian daily Corriere della Sera, the groups said Friday that the Church's ban on artificial birth control has had "catastrophic effects," particularly in the fight against AIDS.

76 Racer X  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:32:29pm

The Weekend Starts Here

77 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:32:31pm

i live in a very old apt still have a claw footed tube and old porcelain thrown

78 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:32:33pm

anyone need a joke? I got an e-mail the other day, "How to Shower Like a Woman, How to Shower Like a Man". It was hilarious, but a little off-color. Should I post it or not?

79 saberry0530  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:32:39pm

re: #47 christheprofessor

You'd have to ask Chuck Berry. Or perhaps Dingle Berry... ;)

You rang?

80 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:32:43pm

re: #74 Sharmuta

Ah, that's right. Well it's one position he's sticking too.

81 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:33:25pm

.....more human than human.........

82 saberry0530  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:33:46pm

re: #78 reine.de.tout

Just got through watching that. Showed the spouse and she cracked up bigtime. Not off color at all. GO FOR IT>

83 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:33:51pm

re: #77 yochanan

i live in a very old apt still have a claw footed tube and old porcelain thrown

How many channels on the tube?
How far away is the porcelain?

;-)

84 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:33:56pm

re: #78 reine.de.tout

anyone need a joke? I got an e-mail the other day, "How to Shower Like a Woman, How to Shower Like a Man". It was hilarious, but a little off-color. Should I post it or not?

Of course!

85 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:33:57pm

re: #78 reine.de.tout

anyone need a joke? I got an e-mail the other day, "How to Shower Like a Woman, How to Shower Like a Man". It was hilarious, but a little off-color. Should I post it or not?


post away

86 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:34:32pm

re: #78 reine.de.tout

anyone need a joke? I got an e-mail the other day, "How to Shower Like a Woman, How to Shower Like a Man". It was hilarious, but a little off-color. Should I post it or not?

Go for it's the FNDT!

87 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:34:37pm

re: #60 jcm

I smell BS, (saw the report early) levels very low on only a few samples. Entirely funded by two big artificial granite makers. Any nature stone will have measurable radioactivity the amount will depend on the source.


Considering the granite can only be 10,000 years old at best... Opps.
Scratch that.
I think the thing to do is have a radon test performed. This case above was a reporter (non-biased, I hope) that had her own kitchen tested. That's three cartons of cigarettes a day. That's a shitload of burden on small lungs. Reject or accept, I have no dog in the fight.

88 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:35:06pm

re: #50 reine.de.tout

you know, I have a pink crown in a pink sky over a round earth, and my name is reine, and people still confuse me for a dude.

What's a girl to do?

try being a redneck.
like only guys can be rednecks.
lol

89 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:35:18pm

re: #83 jcm

it is b & w.

90 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:35:48pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Obama: settlement expansion unhelpful


It's not really a flip flop. I don't know If Obama has ever supported the settlements in the West Bank.

I am sure that the Israeli's have never put into writing that the Settlements are unhelpful. That might have been the unofficial position of individual Israeli politicians, but not of the government. As to the construction of new buildings in Israeli towns and cities on the West Bank, Israel has always claimed the right to build for natural expansion ( building houses for the grown kids etc.)

91 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:36:17pm

re: #89 yochanan

it is b & w.

Do you still get the Ed Sullivan Shoe?
/

92 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:36:40pm

Ok lizards. OT - by now you know the new dem headquarters is located next to my business, literally one foot away. One of my customers went in their office and handed them McCain stickers. They frickin gave her a seventy-five dollar fine for causing trouble! All she did was walk in and hand them stickers. It was not a police officer, it was some guy that was in their office. How can they do that?

93 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:36:47pm

re: #87 EC Marm

Considering the granite can only be 10,000 years old at best... Opps.
Scratch that.
I think the thing to do is have a radon test performed. This case above was a reporter (non-biased, I hope) that had her own kitchen tested. That's three cartons of cigarettes a day. That's a shitload of burden on small lungs. Reject or accept, I have no dog in the fight.

I have an instinctive reaction to scare science by press release. It seldom turns out accurate.

94 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:36:56pm

misssspelings, tyop's and por word usage should be forgi'n on a FNDT

95 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:37:22pm

re: #82 saberry0530

re: #84 VegasRick

re: #86 jcm

Okey-dokey, here it is:

How to Shower Like a Woman
1. Take off clothing and place it in sectioned laundry hamper according to lights and darks.

2. Walk to bathroom wearing long dressing gown. If you see husband along the way, cover up any exposed areas.

3. Look at your womanly physique in the mirror - make mental note to do more sit-ups!

4. Step into shower.

5. Lather up shampoo and massage into hair.

6. Wash your face with crushed apricot facial scrub for 10 minutes until red

7. Rinse out shampoo and apply conditioner.

8. Wash entire rest of body with ginger & jaffa cake body wash.

9. Rinse conditioner out of hair.

10. Shave armpits and legs.

11. Turn off shower.

12. Squeegee off all wet surfaces in shower. Spray mold spots with Tilex.

13. Get out of shower. Dry with towel the size of a small country. Wrap hair in super absorbent towel.

14. Check entire body for zits, tweeze hairs.

15. Return to bedroom wearing long dressing gown and towel on head.

16. If you see husband along the way, cover up any exposed areas.

17. Get dressed and hang up towel.

How To Shower Like a Man
1.Take off clothes while sitting on the edge of the bed and leave them in a pile.

2. Walk naked to the bathroom. If you see wife along the way, shake wiener at her making the 'woo-woo' sound.

3. Look in the mirror, look at your wiener and scratch your butt.

4. Get in the shower.

5. Wash your face

6. Wash your armpits.

7.. Blow your nose in your hands and let the water rinse them off.

8.. Make fart noises (real or artificial) and laugh at how loud they sound in the shower.

9. Spend majority of time washing privates and surrounding area.

10. Wash your butt, leaving the hairs stuck on the soap.

11. Shampoo your hair.

12. Make a Shampoo Mohawk.

13. Pee.

14. Rinse off and get out of shower.

15. Partially dry off. Fail to notice water on floor because curtain was hanging out of tub the whole time.

16. Admire wiener size in mirror again.

17. Leave shower curtain open, wet mat on floor, light and fan on.

18. Return to bedroom with towel around your waist. If you pass wife, pull off towel, shake wiener at her and make the 'woo-woo' sound again.

19. Throw wet towel on bed.

If there is anyone who did not laugh at the truth behind this, there is something very wrong with you


Have a great day

96 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:37:24pm

McCain panders to the Tibetan lobby....
Yahoo pic

The Dalai Lama talks with reporters during a news conference in Aspen, Colo. Friday, July 25, 2008 as Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., right, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., listen.

Luckily two reporters showed up so it's plural.

97 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:37:25pm

re: #91 VegasRick

NO BUT I GET GET SMART

98 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:38:29pm

re: #94 yochanan

misssspelings, tyop's and por word usage should be forgi'n on a FNDT

Forgi'n, sure, ridiculed, of course, and if it's a classic enshrined forever in LFG lore.

99 FrogMarch  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:38:42pm
bludgeoned into political comas

*raises hand*

100 saberry0530  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:39:22pm

re: #95 reine.de.tout
and here's the video

101 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:39:55pm

re: #95 reine.de.tout

How dare you post such disgusting drivel!

ROFL!

102 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:40:31pm

re: #55 Nevergiveup

We have granite counter tops. So does that mean I might as well smoke?


It means you might already be doing as much damage to your lungs as smoking three cartons a day. The combination of smoking and inhaling radon gas "potentiates" the damage. (A very bad combination sometimes quadruples risk.) All kidding aside, this could be a very serious problem for homeowners. Expect resale problems and radon inspections in kitchen area.

103 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:40:40pm

re: #95 reine.de.tout

misgandrist

but also true

104 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:41:11pm

re: #100 saberry0530

and here's the video

I didn't get that with my e-mail! Thanks!

105 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:41:44pm

re: #92 bellamags

Ok lizards. OT - by now you know the new dem headquarters is located next to my business, literally one foot away. One of my customers went in their office and handed them McCain stickers. They frickin gave her a seventy-five dollar fine for causing trouble! All she did was walk in and hand them stickers. It was not a police officer, it was some guy that was in their office. How can they do that?

a 75 dollar fine for "causing trouble". lol
i hope your friend didn't give them any money.
is this a joke?

106 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:42:29pm

re: #93 jcm

I have an instinctive reaction to scare science by press release. It seldom turns out accurate.


Please. Please. It was not a press release. Go back to my link and read the article. It was an independent reporter who had her own kitchen tested. She wanted to find out for herself whether it was BS. It wasn't.

107 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:42:30pm

re: #90 Nevergiveup

I know it's a very touchy subject but I would prefer the Israelis decide which settlements they are going to keep, which they are going to abandon, and build the damn wall. The settlements really are a non-issue but I suspect they are just keeping some of them for future bargaining chips. There's no peace settlement to be had, they should just take unilateral action and secure their border.

108 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:43:20pm
109 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:43:28pm

re: #92 bellamags

Ok lizards. OT - by now you know the new dem headquarters is located next to my business, literally one foot away. One of my customers went in their office and handed them McCain stickers. They frickin gave her a seventy-five dollar fine for causing trouble! All she did was walk in and hand them stickers. It was not a police officer, it was some guy that was in their office. How can they do that?

How can anyone other that LE do that?

110 pat  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:43:58pm

Ploome, ok. I bite

111 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:44:07pm

re: #105 nyc redneck

no joke. I asked her for a copy and she will provide it tomorrow. Her uncle is a big-wig republican and he has it right now.

112 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:44:37pm

Where's Sharmuta? Charles is jammin with Smurfs right now

113 FrogMarch  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:44:40pm

re: #95 reine.de.tout

LOL!

Look in the mirror, look at your wiener and scratch your butt.
(rotating title?)

114 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:44:58pm

re: #109 jcm

That is what I want to know. He was not uniformed and did not tell her he was an officer.

115 stevieray  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:45:49pm

re: #92 bellamags

Ok lizards. OT - by now you know the new dem headquarters is located next to my business, literally one foot away. One of my customers went in their office and handed them McCain stickers. They frickin gave her a seventy-five dollar fine for causing trouble! All she did was walk in and hand them stickers. It was not a police officer, it was some guy that was in their office. How can they do that?

Pay 'em with Ron Paul dollars!

116 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:46:25pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

They kinda are doing that. But is is difficult and with no strong leadership at the top, it is even harder.

117 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:46:31pm
spelling marms will be shot at down

Rotating material.

Hi yo!

118 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:47:01pm

re: #117 wrenchwench

hello wench

119 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:47:03pm

re: #110 pat

Ploome, ok. I bite

I think Ploome is still trying to peel the bikini off her ass from the other day.

120 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:47:51pm

re: #111 bellamags

no joke. I asked her for a copy and she will provide it tomorrow. Her uncle is a big-wig republican and he has it right now.

it sounds like they were trying to intimidate her.
i'm curious to know what happens.
what the "ticket' says.
they could be the ones in trouble. not your friend.

121 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:48:32pm

re: #118 yochanan

hello wench

My feelings are bad hurt, I notice you're not yelling at wench like you yelled at me!

122 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:48:43pm

re: #114 bellamags

That is what I want to know. He was not uniformed and did not tell her he was an officer.

He's name and badge number will be on citation, they should request a court date and subpoena the officer.

123 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:49:12pm

re: #122 jcm

He's name and badge number will be on citation, they should request a court date and subpoena the officer.

Yep, if it's real, take it to court.

124 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:49:12pm

CNN is unbelievable. They just had McCain on screen giving a speech. On 1/3 of the screen. A static picture of Obama is on the other 2/3rds of the screen. While McCain speaks these inspirational pictures of Obama keep changing.

125 sundaydriver  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:49:37pm

Thanks for your answers. I don't know a lot on this subject. Just don't like Obama.

126 pat  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:50:27pm

Heard a 19 year old on Rush during my commute today. All 5 minutes. She had a "wow" moment. she observed that Obama is like Britney Spears was. Very normal until the press started adoring her and fawning over her. Then she went nuts with self-importance. Never seeing herself. I think this girl has struck upon the truth.

127 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:50:31pm

re: #121 reine.de.tout

guilty as charged sorry

128 FrogMarch  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:51:13pm

re: #124 EC Marm

CNN is unbelievable. They just had McCain on screen giving a speech. On 1/3 of the screen. A static picture of Obama is on the other 2/3rds of the screen. While McCain speaks these inspirational pictures of Obama keep changing.

Isn't it sick? CNN is DNC-TV. The all-Obama obsession station.

129 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:51:31pm

re: #124 EC Marm

CNN is unbelievable. They just had McCain on screen giving a speech. On 1/3 of the screen. A static picture of Obama is on the other 2/3rds of the screen. While McCain speaks these inspirational pictures of Obama keep changing.

Well, they were having a talk about how McCain describing Obama's Iraq "policy" without any spin was just the most abominable thing they had ever heard.

Billions of years of evolution for those excrement-filled berliners to sit and pontificate under their plastic hairpieces and false concerned looks? Gack.

130 Teacake!  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:51:41pm

Rob Zombie - lol - Jay and Shana from White Zombie owned a local dive here in New Orleans. But they just sold it a few weeks ago.

131 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:51:50pm

re: #124 EC Marm

CNN is unbelievable. They just had McCain on screen giving a speech. On 1/3 of the screen. A static picture of Obama is on the other 2/3rds of the screen. While McCain speaks these inspirational pictures of Obama keep changing.

LOL
CNN should just go b.o. 24/7 and get it over with.

132 grumpy old codger  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:52:34pm

re: #52 Sharmuta

Now that is trivia!

133 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:52:47pm

re: #87 EC Marm

Considering the granite can only be 10,000 years old at best... Opps.
Scratch that.
I think the thing to do is have a radon test performed. This case above was a reporter (non-biased, I hope) that had her own kitchen tested. That's three cartons of cigarettes a day. That's a shitload of burden on small lungs. Reject or accept, I have no dog in the fight.

My guess is the house had a radon problem prior to the granite countertops.
That is a LOT of radon.

134 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:53:03pm

re: #124 EC Marm

CNN is unbelievable. They just had McCain on screen giving a speech. On 1/3 of the screen. A static picture of Obama is on the other 2/3rds of the screen. While McCain speaks these inspirational pictures of Obama keep changing.

I am sick to death of Obama and his arrogance.

I don't know how many of you were here this morning, but I saw this at Gateway Pundit and thought it was very telling about the difference between McCain & Obama's attitudes:

There is an acid test Israelis give to visiting dignitaries--a way to watch and measure. Everyone goes to the Yad Hashem to bear witness to the Shoah. Everyone goes to the Western Wall to bear witness to the vortex of Western Culture and Spirituality. The former is a private confrontation with enormity. The latter is a public experience of personal faith. It is the person at the Wall that Israelis watch--How does the stranger come to the perimeter of the sacred space?
. . .
The critical moment, the transition if you will, occurs at the barrier, not at the Wall. Everyone who enters the enclosed sacred space before the Wall must cover their heads: men wear a kippa or a hat, married women wear scarves or hats or wigs. If you are religious, you wear a kippa or a hat at all times--so you wear your own through the barrier to the Wall. If you don't have one, men reach into a box at the barrier and put on a rayon "skullcap", white or black.
. . .
Back in March, I wrote about McCain's tour of Israel before Easter. He went out of the way to learn about Israeli culture and customs and to understand what Israelis were experiencing. He convinced Israelis he was interested in Israelis. It was not how he talked with officials and notaries. It was how he went to the Wall. He didn't need a "have-to" beanie. He came prepared. He wore the Kippa Sruga of the Modern Orthodox, or central observant Jewish parties. Symbols are serious stuff. He knew he was an outsider, an not a Jew, but at the Wall, he tried and he watched how people responded to the sacred space.

Obama?

He reached into the box and took a white kippa. No matter how serious he appeared, lost in reverent prayer, he wore the "have to do it or you can't get in" hat.

135 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:53:27pm

re: #124 EC Marm

CNN is unbelievable. They just had McCain on screen giving a speech. On 1/3 of the screen. A static picture of Obama is on the other 2/3rds of the screen. While McCain speaks these inspirational pictures of Obama keep changing.

I expect them to any day now having "the crawl" at the bottom of the screen saying over and over "Obama is the One, the chosen one, you will vote Obama in the upcoming election, Obama is the One, the chosen one, you will vote Obama in the upcoming election, Obama is the One, the chosen one, you will vote Obama in the upcoming election". This is starting to border on nationalized propaganda.

136 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:54:28pm

re: #127 yochanan

You're forg'n

137 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:54:41pm

re: #55 Nevergiveup

We have granite counter tops. So does that mean I might as well smoke?

I think it means you now have a scapegoat if you or your family gets any form of cancer. The EPA has so confused the issue that it is impossible to tell if you really are at risk from something like this, but given the very low level of exposure, it is extremely unlikely. You are much more likely to suffer ill health from the effects of worrying about it.

1 becquerel (Bq) ~ 27 picocurie (pCi)
The becquerel (Bq) is named after the French physicist A.H. Becquerel. This unit measures radioactivity in a substance. It doesn't consider the type of radiation emitted or what its effects may be. One becquerel equals one nuclear disintegration per second.

As you can see from the above definition of the Bq, the measure that they give, of 240picoCuries is meaningless in what it's effects may be. At roughly 9Bq, you are seeing 9 isotopes decay every second for each litre of volume of the granite. It is likely that they are suggesting that your exposure to radioactive decay particles, primarily alpha particles, of Radon due to granite countertops is 30 times your exposure to radioactive decay particles of Radon due to smoking. That is only a tiny part of the risk of smoking.

Alpha particles are essentially helium atoms without any electrons, consisting of two protons and one neutron, IIRC. They are only damaging to internal tissues, such as your lungs if you breath them in, your clothing or a piece of paper are effective shields against them externally.

138 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:55:19pm
139 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:56:12pm

re: #137 CyanSnowHawk

Problem is my brother in law did our kitchen. So I can't sue.

140 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:56:50pm

re: #123 OldLineTexan

Don't know if its real. No name on it.

141 Teacake!  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:57:07pm

#134 I am sick to death of Obama and his arrogance.

I hope they shove him down our throat obsessively and that his arrogance is so apparent and hard to take that he will have enough rope to hang himself. Also, I hope McCain holds off on his campaign so that people aren't sick of him. The preliminaries went on so long that it seemed they were both already full term presidents and it was time for a real CHANGE

142 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:57:26pm

GTG. write more later.

143 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:58:00pm

re: #138 ploome hineni

it's there, somewhere

/I can;t find it

See now if I was not a gentleman, I might say , well I'll look for it. But then my wife would come in here and wack me in the head and you would yell at me. So......

144 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:59:06pm

Is this the "Pick Obama's Campaign Song" thread?

145 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:59:41pm

re: #144 WrathofG-d

Is this the "Pick Obama's Campaign Song" thread?

"I'm a loser"?

146 yochanan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 4:59:44pm

in heaven there is no beer so i got to drink it here

who said there is no beer in heaven?

147 RememberSekhmet?  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:00:21pm

Had more money than I thought, and IKEA is calling me....I must answer...

148 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:00:31pm

re: #146 yochanan

in heaven there is no beer so i got to drink it here

who said there is no beer in heaven?

There's beer in Israel, why not heaven?

149 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:00:32pm

re: #146 yochanan

in heaven there is no beer so i got to drink it here

who said there is no beer in heaven?

Mo. He lied. As usual.

150 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:00:55pm

re: #145 VegasRick

haha...soy un parador......

151 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:01:42pm

re: #145 VegasRick

Maybe an ode to the US of "Killing Me Softly"

152 Teacake!  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:02:18pm

Is it still questionable if he was born here or in his fathers land? Has he produced his birth certificate yet? I would love if it comes out that he hadn't stepped on US soil until he left that religious school. I really want details of his first 10 years. This guy is too dangerous to give any governmental job to. Apparently he's used all his senate years being groomed by Soros.

153 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:04:00pm

re: #137 CyanSnowHawk
The thing of it is; if you have more than 4 pCi/L in your basement, you have to install a ventilation fan. Or you'll never sell your home. This reporter had 60 times that level. In her kitchen, where most people spend a lot more time than their basement. She'd have to have a category 5, Katrina deluxe model fan to reduce that level down to 4 pCi/L .

154 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:04:03pm

re: #151 WrathofG-d

Maybe an ode to the US of "Killing Me Softly"

That looks about right!

155 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:04:33pm

re: #147 RememberSekhmet?

You Must Resist!

156 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:06:27pm

re: #143 Nevergiveup

See now if I was not a gentleman, I might say , well I'll look for it. But then my wife would come in here and wack me in the head and you would yell at me. So......

An old joke:

Thibodeaux is sittin' on his porch when Gaston come by in a white shirt. "Hey, Gaston!" he shout. "Ware you goan?" "To chuch!" shout Gaston, and he walk pass.

Two hour latteh, heah come Gaston walkin right back by, but he got two black eye an his shirt all mussed. "Gaston!" shout Thibodeaux, "what happen to you eye?" "Ah," say Gaston, "a lady in front o'me at de chuch got up to sing from de hymnal, an her dress was tuck in her buttocks. So I did the Chrischun thing and pull it out. So she punch me in de eye!"

Thibodeaux say, "But that's only one eye. How come you got two black eye?"

Gaston say back, "I feel so bad to offend her, I reach up and push de dress back in to make things right. Dat's when she punch me in de other eye!"

157 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:07:57pm

re: #126 pat

Heard a 19 year old on Rush during my commute today. All 5 minutes. She had a "wow" moment. she observed that Obama is like Britney Spears was. Very normal until the press started adoring her and fawning over her. Then she went nuts with self-importance. Never seeing herself. I think this girl has struck upon the truth.

Youtube Video

Here ya go!

158 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:08:40pm

re: #157 VegasRick

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Here ya go!

Is that a video of Obama getting out of a car with no drawers on?

Tell me now.

159 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:09:19pm

re: #158 OldLineTexan

Is that a video of Obama getting out of a car with no drawers on?

Tell me now.

No.

160 Racer X  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:09:27pm

F-22 Raptor at Farnborough Airshow 2008

Suck it Europe. And Russia. And China. The Raptor rules the skies.

161 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:09:36pm

re: #158 OldLineTexan

Is that a video of Obama getting out of a car with no drawers on?

Tell me now.

LOL BTW!

162 OldLineTexan  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:09:47pm

re: #159 VegasRick

No.

OK, so no real connection to Brit. Yet.

/whew

163 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:10:08pm

re: #162 OldLineTexan

OK, so no real connection to Brit. Yet.

/whew

Keep looking.

164 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:10:09pm

re: #154 VegasRick

No here is Obama's Campaign Song - War

165 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:10:59pm

oh wait...maybe its Buffalo Soldier

166 Racer X  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:15:03pm

Liar, Liar

167 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:15:23pm

re: #164 WrathofG-d

No here is Obama's Campaign Song - War

Youtube Video

Does this work?

168 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:16:15pm

re: #106 EC Marm

Please. Please. It was not a press release. Go back to my link and read the article. It was an independent reporter who had her own kitchen tested. She wanted to find out for herself whether it was BS. It wasn't.

That is more interesting, I saw a report on the competitor's press release.

169 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:17:32pm

re: #167 VegasRick

Empty Promises....now that is good...made me think of this gem for the Ossiah -Slogans-

170 marjoriemoon  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:17:38pm
Well, I can’t stream it here without paying absurd licensing fees through the usual suspects, of course. Anyone remember Napster? No? That’s why.

Is anyone else besides me still pissed off at Metalicca? I mean, Judas Priest had their lawsuit but hey... they haven't had a hit in 30 years, who could blame em lol

171 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:18:03pm

re: #153 EC Marm

The thing of it is; if you have more than 4 pCi/L in your basement, you have to install a ventilation fan. Or you'll never sell your home. This reporter had 60 times that level. In her kitchen, where most people spend a lot more time than their basement. She'd have to have a category 5, Katrina deluxe model fan to reduce that level down to 4 pCi/L .

True, that is the problem. The EPA has managed, once again, to impose unreasonable standards upon a scientifically illiterate public.

172 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:18:16pm

Before Rev Wright I guess it could have been this:

173 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:20:53pm

re: #172 WrathofG-d

Before Rev Wright I guess it could have been this:

Well, we know it won't be this!

Youtube Video

174 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:22:39pm

re: #170 marjoriemoon

Is anyone else besides me still pissed off at Metalicca? I mean, Judas Priest had their lawsuit but hey... they haven't had a hit in 30 years, who could blame em lol

Metallica just looked like tools of the recording industry when they did that. Like it was written into their recording contract that they had to be vocal against internet piracy. Turned them from 'kick ass' to 'kiss ass' in a heartbeat.

175 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:23:17pm

obambi's mascot.
[Link: texasholdemblogger.files.wordpress.com...]

176 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:23:58pm

re: #171 CyanSnowHawk

True, that is the problem. The EPA has managed, once again, to impose unreasonable standards upon a scientifically illiterate public.


I have had more experience with the EPA/OSHA types than I care to retell. I'd still be typing tomorrow. But the way they establish 'safe' levels was explained to me this way; mice (for example) are exposed to radon at some level; if effects are observed, the level is lowered. When the level that no discernible effects are noted is recorded, that numbered is halved, then halved again for human exposure. So there is quite a bit of leeway, exposure wise. But I think 60 X safe level is certainly pushing the envelope.

177 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:24:15pm

re: #173 VegasRick

or this I guess.........you know as "War" said.....'world citizenship'.

178 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:24:35pm

re: #177 WrathofG-d

or this I guess.........you know as "War" said.....'world citizenship'.

ok on that note (;)) I am off to shul.

179 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:25:02pm

re: #144 WrathofG-d

Is this the "Pick Obama's Campaign Song" thread?

Cygnet Committee, by David Bowie
But I don't think he'd agree.
However, I've Bolded some relevant lyrics

I bless you madly, sadly as I tie my shoes
I love you badly, just in time, at times, I guess
Because of you I need to rest
Because it's you that sets the test

So much has gone and little is new
And as the sparrow sings
Dawn chorus for
Someone else to hear
The Thinker sits alone growing older
And so bitter

I gave Them life
I gave Them all
They drained my very soul...dry
I crushed my heart to ease Their pains
No thought for me remains there
Nothing can They spare
What of me?
Who praised Their efforts to be free?
Words of strength and care and sympathy
I opened doors that would have blocked Their way
I braved Their cause to guide, for little pay
I ravaged at my finance just for Those
Those whose claims were steeped in peace, tranquility
Those who said a new world, new ways ever free
Those whose promises stretched in hope and grace for me

I bless you madly, sadly as I tie my shoes
I love you badly, just in time, at times, I guess
Because of you I need to rest, oh yes
Because it's you that sets the test

So much has gone and little is new
And as the sunrise stream
Flickers on me,
My friends talk
Of glory, untold dream, where all is God and God is just a word

"We had a friend, a talking man
Who spoke of many powers he had
Not of the best of men, but Ours
We used him
We let him use his powers
We let him fill Our needs
Now We are strong

And the road is coming to its end
Now the damned have no time to make amends
No purse of token fortune stands in Our way
The silent guns of love will blast the sky

We broke the ruptured structure built of age
Our weapons were the tongues of crying rage
Where money stood
We planted seeds of rebirth
And stabbed the backs of fathers
Sons of dirt

Infiltrated business cesspools
Hating through Our sleeves
Yea, and We slit the Catholic throat
Stoned the poor on slogans such as

Wish You Could Hear
Love Is All We Need
Kick Out The Jams
Kick Out Your Mother
Cut Up Your Friend
Screw Up Your Brother or He'll Get You In the End

And We Know the Flag of Love is from Above
And We Can Force You to Be Free
And We Can Force You to Believe

And I close my eyes and tighten up my brain
For I once read a book in which the lovers were slain
For they knew not the words of the Free States' refrain
It said

I believe in the Power of Good
I Believe in the State of Love
I Will Fight For the Right to be Right
I Will Kill for the Good of the Fight for the Right to be Right

And I open my eyes to look around
And I see a child laid slain on the ground
As a love machine lumbers through desolation rows
Ploughing down man, woman, listening to its command
But not hearing anymore
Not hearing anymore
Just the shrieks from the old rich

And I Want to Believe
In the madness that calls now
And I want to Believe
That a light's shining through
Somehow

And I Want to Believe
And You Want to Believe
And We Want to Believe
And We Want to Live
Oh, We Want to Live

We Want to Live
We Want to Live
We Want to Live
We Want to Live
We Want to Live

I Want to Live
I Want to Live
I Want to Live
I Want to Live
I Want to Live
I Want to Live

Live
Live
Liiive

180 WrathofG-d  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:26:21pm

Maybe one for McCain?
~ok I am really out now.

181 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:26:36pm

re: #179 Kosh's Shadow

PIMF. I wanted to bold most of the song after "the silent guns of love will blast the sky"

182 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:28:28pm

re: #177 WrathofG-d

or this I guess.........you know as "War" said.....'world citizenship'.

I LOVE that song! Thanks for posting!

Youtube Video

Another version I think you might like.

183 Racer X  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:29:19pm

We need a bicycle picture.

184 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:31:18pm

re: #183 Racer X

We need a bicycle picture.

How about the song Bicyle Seat?
Someone wants to be re-incarnated as a bicycle seat. Somewhat suggestive.

185 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:36:35pm

re: #176 EC Marm

I have had more experience with the EPA/OSHA types than I care to retell. I'd still be typing tomorrow. But the way they establish 'safe' levels was explained to me this way; mice (for example) are exposed to radon at some level; if effects are observed, the level is lowered. When the level that no discernible effects are noted is recorded, that numbered is halved, then halved again for human exposure. So there is quite a bit of leeway, exposure wise. But I think 60 X safe level is certainly pushing the envelope.

Is that how they measure for radiation exposure? Makes sense for environmental poisons, but radiation is a whole 'nother animal, particularly in regards to cancer. I do take exception with the way it was reported. "Just like smoking 30 pack of cigarettes a day" is nothing less than irresponsible and the sort of thing that causes panic.

186 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:37:55pm

Time to drive home. Later, all.

187 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:38:04pm

Evening guys, a long solid week at work, One of my co-workers resigned yesterday for an easier and better paying job in the private sector. Three and a half years and I am out! (retired that is, professional ski bum, here I come!)
/drinks are on the house...

188 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:38:33pm

re: #183 Racer X

We need a bicycle picture.

Oh, my. That pic makes me woozy....

189 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:38:55pm

re: #187 LoFlyer

(raises glass): Clink!

190 itellu3times  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:39:32pm

re: #46 EC Marm

Conventional Wisdom:
Radon in the basement. Bad.
Beautiful granite countertops. Good.

Except for one thing. The granite gives off radiation and radon gas. Reporter has her counter tested:

The Environmental Protection Agency says a reading below 2 picocuries per liter is considered safe for radon gas. The levels in my kitchen are 240 picocuries per liter. The EPA says that poses the same risk of cancer as smoking 30 packs of cigarettes per day.

Oops. I smell lawsuits.

I'll bet what that means is that a pack of cigs has 8pc of radon, but the radon is probably the least dangerous element of the cigs.

... Googling ...

Ha, well, according to this, radiation *is* the most harmful thing in cigarettes? I dunno, ... from polonium-210:
[Link: www.radonseal.com...]

The lungs of a chronic smoker end up with a radioactive lining in a concentration much higher than from residential radon. These particles emit radiation. Smoking two packs of cigarettes a day imparts a radiation dose by alpha particles of about 1,300 millirem per year. (IEM) For comparison, the annual radiation dose to the average American from inhaled radon is 200 mrem. However, the radiation dose at the radon "action level" of 4 pCi/L is roughly equivalent to smoking 10 cigarettes a day.

Er, ...

The Center for Disease Control concluded "Americans are exposed to far more radiation from tobacco smoke than from any other source." The Surgeon General C. Everett Koop stated that radioactivity, rather than tar, accounts for at least 90% of all smoking-related lung cancers.

I didn't know that. I'm not sure I know it even now.

But in any case, radon from your granite is not inside your lungs, is much heavier than air, will fall to the floor and through the floor or out the door in short order, in most houses. Unless you sleep naked on a granite slab, I think it's of neglible consequence.

Maybe it will help keep the cockroaches down.

191 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:40:20pm

Hi, back from rehearsal. Anyone seen Walter the conservative this morning. He was missing :)

192 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:41:13pm

re: #189 christheprofessor

(raises glass): Clink!

Thanks, here's a toast to all the thankless, getting the job done and moving on!

193 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:41:38pm

YES! 1-0 Yankees- beat those red sux!

194 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:42:07pm

Joba Joba he's da man- if he can't do it- nobody can!

195 jaunte  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:42:25pm

re: #191 Walter L. Newton

Where did he go?

196 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:42:46pm

re: #191 Walter L. Newton

Hi, back from rehearsal. Anyone seen Walter the conservative this morning. He was missing :)

Ha! Feeling better now!?

197 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:43:03pm

My boys just caught a Chuckwalla lizard in the front of our house. It is HUGE -- at least 16 inches in length -- female and mad. They put it in a kitty-transport cage. It is on its legs, looking at me.

So, anyone know how to tell if a female lizard is gravid?

Supposedly female lizards get pregnant around June/July and give birth in August/September.

So cool.

198 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:43:27pm

Obviously I haven't been keeping up lately, do we have two Walters?

199 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:43:30pm

The Mummy starring Brendan Frasier- who also just did doing Journey to the Center of the Earth. Busy Man.

200 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:43:36pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

I like the feature. Because of it, I've come to find some great music and/or bands I might not have discovered otherwise. So....thanks, Charles!

I just spent $50 on Tom Waits CDs.

If it were not for this site, I would not have done that.

201 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:44:27pm

Goose Gossage! makes the Hall of Fame! Alright! Induction ceremony this Sunday- Only player to get in!

202 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:44:41pm

re: #191 Walter L. Newton

Hi, back from rehearsal. Anyone seen Walter the conservative this morning. He was missing :)

hey walter, how are you feeling this evening?

203 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:45:28pm

He's feeling good if he's a YANKEE FAN!

204 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:45:53pm

From M-W:

gravid

Main Entry: grav·id
Pronunciation: ˈgra-vəd
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin gravidus, from gravis heavy
Date: 1597
1 : pregnant
2 : distended with or full of eggs

205 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:46:16pm

re: #197 hermeneutics

My boys just caught a Chuckwalla lizard in the front of our house. It is HUGE -- at least 16 inches in length -- female and mad. They put it in a kitty-transport cage. It is on its legs, looking at me.

So, anyone know how to tell if a female lizard is gravid?

Supposedly female lizards get pregnant around June/July and give birth in August/September.

So cool.

AFAIK, they lay eggs in June that hatch in August. That's how it works for the ones in our yard.

206 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:46:49pm

News of a big trade- we got a premier lefthanded reliever and an outstanding hitting outfielder to fill in our woes and hurts. Great Deal- still in the hush hush stage-you heard it hear first!

207 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:47:07pm

re: #205 wrenchwench

AFAIK, they lay eggs in June that hatch in August. That's how it works for the ones in our yard.

Can it be a pet or will it bite? Do you keep yours as pets or let them wander?

208 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:47:13pm

re: #196 christheprofessor

Ha! Feeling better now!?

Sitting in a dark room, working with all the techs and actors, help bring one back to earth.

209 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:47:32pm

re: #197 hermeneutics

My boys just caught a Chuckwalla lizard in the front of our house. It is HUGE -- at least 16 inches in length -- female and mad. They put it in a kitty-transport cage. It is on its legs, looking at me.

So, anyone know how to tell if a female lizard is gravid?

Supposedly female lizards get pregnant around June/July and give birth in August/September.

So cool.

You're scientific depth (bad pun ahead) gives you (bad pun imminent) gravidas....

210 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:48:04pm

re: #197 hermeneutics

It's territorial.

The link has some notes about nesting habits.

211 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:48:13pm

re: #202 nyc redneck

hey walter, how are you feeling this evening?

Ok, why?

212 Racer X  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:48:20pm

re: #197 hermeneutics

No, but I do know that a female ferret will die if it goes into heat and cannot find a mate.

213 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:49:19pm

re: #212 Racer X

No, but I do know that a female ferret will die if it goes into heat and cannot find a mate.

Sort of like this woman I... never mind.

214 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:49:24pm

re: #207 hermeneutics

Can it be a pet or will it bite? Do you keep yours as pets or let them wander?

"Ours" are not pets, and they aren't Chuckwallas either, just little fence lizards. I've never had any luck with pet reptiles.

215 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:49:50pm

re: #204 christheprofessor

From M-W:

Thanx! I gravida with anticipation!

216 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:49:50pm

re: #211 Walter L. Newton

Ok, why?

oh, no reason.
;)

217 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:50:00pm

re: #197 hermeneutics

My boys just caught a Chuckwalla lizard in the front of our house. It is HUGE -- at least 16 inches in length -- female and mad. They put it in a kitty-transport cage. It is on its legs, looking at me.

So, anyone know how to tell if a female lizard is gravid?

Supposedly female lizards get pregnant around June/July and give birth in August/September.

So cool.

Your LGF account is in serious danger....
Putting a LIZARD in a cage! For Shame!

/

Know bupkis about "real" lizards.

218 itellu3times  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:50:08pm

re: #200 Syrah

I just spent $50 on Tom Waits CDs.

If it were not for this site, I would not have done that.

"But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows from elven-bows, is this land of Lothlorien maintained and defended against its Enemy!" said the Lady Galadriel.

... but she never heard Tom Waits!

219 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:50:24pm

re: #208 Walter L. Newton

Sitting in a dark room, working with all the techs and actors, help bring one back to earth.

It's easy to lose focus and get discouraged listening to the MSM. But getting back to one's routine provides comfort and appreciation for the lives we've made for ourselves, made possible by the sacrifices of so many before us.

Glad you are feeling better!

220 Thanos  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:51:23pm

Charles,

No need to reply, I'm surfing but .jpgs for avatars etc. are taking two eternities to load now on a refresh.

221 Racer X  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:51:27pm

re: #213 Walter L. Newton

I think I met her once.

;-)

222 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:51:28pm

re: #216 nyc redneck

oh, no reason.
;)

Rehearsal is always good for my soul. And tomorrow night we have a concert, John Adams from Holland, doing 2 hours of John Denver tunes (oh god, I hate John Denver) and then a busy week before we open Hay Fever for it's six week run.

[Link: www.minersalley.com...]

223 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:52:23pm

re: #212 Racer X

No, but I do know that a female ferret will die if it goes into heat and cannot find a mate.

I understand that... I'm still two women shy of a threesome...

224 Racer X  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:53:01pm

More useless trivia:

A fully loaded supertanker traveling at normal speed takes a least twenty minutes to stop.

A ‘jiffy’ is an actual unit of time for 1/100th of a second.

A lion’s roar can be heard from five miles away.

A pregnant goldfish is called a twit.

A rat can last longer without water than a camel.

225 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:53:50pm

re: #210 Syrah

It's territorial.

The link has some notes about nesting habits.

Great link, Syrah. Much better than the ones I found.

This is weird -- they do not pee. Instead, they pass salt when they exhale. (Wow, as a female without outside plumbing, snorting out a piece of salt sounds like a great deal!)

They also inflate themselves. (Sorta like that guy with the big you-know-what on Zombie's site.)

226 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:54:09pm

re: #218 itellu3times

"But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows from elven-bows, is this land of Lothlorien maintained and defended against its Enemy!" said the Lady Galadriel.

... but she never heard Tom Waits!

But I am sure that she heard of Tom Bombadil.

The passage that you cited, I think she is referring to her ring, one of the rings of the elven lords. Or am I wrong?

227 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:54:46pm

re: #222 Walter L. Newton

excellent.

i gotta run, late birthday dinner w/ a friend.
a lib, but not hopeless.

228 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:54:49pm

re: #215 LoFlyer

Thanx! I gravida with anticipation!

Quite welcome. Always learn something new on the drinking threads!

/well, at least I'm drinking...

229 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:55:46pm

re: #227 nyc redneck

excellent.

i gotta run, late birthday dinner w/ a friend.
a lib, but not hopeless.

Make sure your friend hasn't drank a pot of coffee... whew.

230 Racer X  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:55:54pm

More:

According to Genesis 1:20-22 the chicken came before the egg.

Actor Tommy Lee Jones and vice-president Al Gore were freshman roommates at Harvard.

Albert Brooks’s real name is Albert Einstein.

Alexander Graham Bell, the inventor of the telephone, never phoned his wife or his mother. They were both deaf.

Alfred Hitchcock didn’t have a belly button. It was eliminated when he was sewn up after surgery.

231 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:55:58pm

re: #228 christheprofessor

Quite welcome. Always learn something new on the drinking threads!

/well, at least I'm drinking...

Michelob, for me! just mellowing out and chillin'

232 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:57:28pm

re: #225 hermeneutics

(Sorta like that guy with the big you-know-what on Zombie's site.)

You mean Cuckwalla Srotum Guy?

233 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:57:31pm

re: #231 LoFlyer

Michelob, for me! just mellowing out and chillin'

Presently enjoying 1/2 pound of brussel sprouts, 1/2 pound of califlower mixed with non-fat ranch, phony bacon bits and onion powder.

Hmmmmmm.

234 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:57:59pm

USA 61, Canada 38 @ half.

235 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:58:18pm

re: #231 LoFlyer

Michelob, for me! just mellowing out and chillin'

I needed 1/4 cup of wine for the sauce I made, so, I gotta do something with the rest before it goes bad...

236 debutaunt  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:58:28pm

re: #232 christheprofessor

You mean Cuckwalla Srotum Guy?

****Gasp****

237 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:58:43pm

re: #232 christheprofessor

Yea, that's the one. It makes me cringe just to think of that pic. Gotta hurt.

238 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:59:11pm

Thanx, that reminds me I have chicken defrosting somewhere? BIAS(back in a second)

239 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 5:59:55pm

Ok more about my client who got fined ($75.50 to be exact) for giving Obama supporters some McCain bumper stickers. I just talked to a friend who is an officer and she said my client broke no laws and can't be given a "ticket" until she does. The gentleman did not identify himself as an officer. And my landlord contacted me the next day and started bitching at me about something else entirely. I believe he is a democrat. Don't know for sure. This is getting real interesting. He can't intimidate me into an effing thing. War is on. These people don't know what kind of nest they stuck a stick into.

240 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:00:11pm

Charles -

As always - Ajax is Stronger Than Dirt. That is all.

-S-

241 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:02:12pm

re: #233 Walter L. Newton

This guy might interest you. He has a one man show based on his podcasts. He's got a killer voice and a very quirky sense of humor. Kinda like a Welsh Tom Waits.

242 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:02:24pm

re: #239 bellamags

I think we should lay low, stay quiet and make a surprise attack on Obama about one or two weeks before the election. GOTV.

243 jcw46  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:03:14pm

Jesus Christ Superstar

244 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:03:38pm

re: #236 debutaunt

re: #237 hermeneutics

I cannot for the life of me fathom how one's neurons misfired such that one would want to do that...

245 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:03:40pm

re: #242 hermeneutics

How should we do this exactly?

246 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:03:54pm

re: #225 hermeneutics

I've heard of lizards that pass salt pellets.

247 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:04:06pm

re: #243 jcw46

Jesus Christ Superstar

Awesome! I love this song.

248 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:04:07pm

re: #238 LoFlyer

Thanx, that reminds me I have chicken defrosting somewhere? BIAS(back in a second)

re: #239 bellamags

Ok more about my client who got fined ($75.50 to be exact) for giving Obama supporters some McCain bumper stickers. I just talked to a friend who is an officer and she said my client broke no laws and can't be given a "ticket" until she does. The gentleman did not identify himself as an officer. And my landlord contacted me the next day and started bitching at me about something else entirely. I believe he is a democrat. Don't know for sure. This is getting real interesting. He can't intimidate me into an effing thing. War is on. These people don't know what kind of nest they stuck a stick into.

Give them hell! keep us updated, this sounds interesting!

249 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:05:39pm

Sleeves- Lifeboat

250 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:06:15pm

re: #241 Killgore Trout

This guy might interest you. He has a one man show based on his podcasts. He's got a killer voice and a very quirky sense of humor. Kinda like a Welsh Tom Waits.

I'll pass that on to the producer. But really, I don't recommend any music acts for Miners Alley. We have another organization call Acoustic Alley which books folk acts into our space, and then we have an occasional music act which we book ourselves.

All these shows do is draw in all the OLD HIPPIES. They're all over the place. Grey hair tied off in the back, women with granny dresses and wine, wine wine.

I just don't care for the concerts. And I have to sit through them in the control booth, firing photons, so they aren't in the dark.

251 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:06:24pm

OT - Breaking! Potential HATE Crime in PA:

Islamic radio station attacked by gunman!
Gunman's car loaded with multiple weapons
Police are investigating it as a potential hate crime
All major networks sending satellite trucks.

Oh wait, my mistake. It was a Christian radio station - no potential motivation guessed nor hate crime said by police or media.

252 jcw46  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:08:09pm

re: #184 Kosh's Shadow

How about the song Bicyle Seat?
Someone wants to be re-incarnated as a bicycle seat. Somewhat suggestive.

Bicycle Race by Queen.

253 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:09:13pm

re: #251 Silhouette

OT - Breaking! Potential HATE Crime in PA:

Islamic radio station attacked by gunman!
Gunman's car loaded with multiple weapons
Police are investigating it as a potential hate crime
All major networks sending satellite trucks.

Oh wait, my mistake. It was a Christian radio station - no potential motivation guessed nor hate crime said by police or media.

Sudden Jihad Syndrome?

254 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:09:48pm

re: #252 jcw46

Bicycle Race by Queen.

Only if I was mounted on a female bike and my face in the right place. Oh, did I really say that? Bad Walter, Bad.

255 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:10:04pm

re: #253 VegasRick

I doubt it was sudden...

256 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:10:14pm

re: #254 Walter L. Newton

eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww

257 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:10:32pm

re: #253 VegasRick

Sudden Jihad Syndrome?

Or sudden MoonBat Syndrome.

258 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:10:51pm

re: #256 bellamags

eeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww

Was that like a compliment?

259 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:11:19pm

re: #251 Silhouette

OT - Breaking! Potential HATE Crime in PA:

Islamic radio station attacked by gunman!
Gunman's car loaded with multiple weapons
Police are investigating it as a potential hate crime
All major networks sending satellite trucks.

Oh wait, my mistake. It was a Christian radio station - no potential motivation guessed nor hate crime said by police or media.

Probably one of the radical Christian groups like the "Royal Ambassadors"....

260 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:12:20pm

re: #245 bellamags

How should we do this exactly?

I. Stealth. We campaign by reaching out to those we know well, first. Then we reach out to people on websites, work, neighborhoods, whereever. Think missionary. Make converts one soul at a time. Some will be eternally lost -- some, though, are fence-sitters and can be redeemed.

II. Make sure all voters you know who are R are registered. I just registered my 70-something parents in Colorado. Two sure Republican votes.

III. Start making you-tube videos for web immersion. Also write editorials for your local paper. Release them when you think the time is right, but save your best ammo for the last week or so. Help others do the same.

261 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:12:23pm

New avatar test...

262 jcw46  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:12:32pm

re: #239 bellamags

Contact local Repub committee or other interested group. They may want to demo how the D's don't like free speech when you ain't speaking in unisom unison with them. (typical fascist tactic which is why they say Repubs do this; because they do ALL the time).

263 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:12:50pm

re: #255 christheprofessor

I doubt it was sudden...

I'm guessing the guy was Amish.

264 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:13:42pm

Bumper stickers. Seen any?

I saw a bumper sticker in Colorado Springs. It said "Jesus love me, but he can't stand you."

265 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:14:02pm

re: #261 christheprofessor

New avatar test...

Dogs at work or is it play?

266 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:14:02pm

re: #250 Walter L. Newton

Thanks, I think the guy's a real talent. I could listen to him for hours.

267 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:14:08pm

Awww shucks- Jeter pops up with Damon on 2nd in the bottom of the 7th. Still up 1-0!

268 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:14:22pm

re: #263 VegasRick

I'm guessing the guy was Amish.

My money was on Buddhist....

269 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:14:42pm

re: #265 LoFlyer

Dogs at work or is it play?

Pure play...

270 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:14:58pm

So can I sneak in? I'm not drinking anything stronger than decaf tea, but I've been lurking a bit.

271 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:12pm

Bicycle Thread? I'm ready.

272 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:16pm

re: #265 LoFlyer

Looks like the pups playing in the mud by a river bank after a rain storm.

273 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:24pm

re: #268 christheprofessor

My money was on Buddhist....

Lutheran. Those darn Lutherans are always causing trouble. Like Slokat!

274 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:27pm

re: #264 Walter L. Newton

Bumper stickers. Seen any?

I saw a bumper sticker in Colorado Springs. It said "Jesus love me, but he can't stand you."

Saw one a while back that said: "It's not gonna lick itself."

275 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:38pm

re: #235 christheprofessor

I needed 1/4 cup of wine for the sauce I made, so, I gotta do something with the rest before it goes bad...

You know you can buy those vacuum pumpers that will help you keep the wine fresh for up to a couple weeks.

Oh, wait...

276 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:39pm

re: #269 christheprofessor

Pure play...

I love to take my dogs out in the woods. Hate the ticks though!

277 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:15:51pm

re: #266 Killgore Trout

Thanks, I think the guy's a real talent. I could listen to him for hours.

And I know you understand that I wasn't putting him down, or you for your music tastes. I just see SO many local acts come into the theatre and I wonder if they left their talent at home.

These young ones don't work for the chops anymore. All cookie cutter, bake and serve.

278 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:16:22pm

re: #271 EC Marm

B.O. Body Oder - so where is he going after Europe- Uranus?

279 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:16:25pm

re: #260 hermeneutics

Its a good plan.

The races tighten up in the last two weeks.

The worst of the dirt is usually dropped in the last two weeks. It is when the campaigns are too broke or too frazzled to respond appropriately.

280 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:16:48pm

re: #276 LoFlyer

Do they get ya Ticked off?
/

281 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:16:56pm

Bumper sticker in Roswell, New Mexico.

"Fasten your seat belts. It makes it harder for them to suck you out of the car."

282 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:16:59pm

re: #270 vxbush

So can I sneak in? I'm not drinking anything stronger than decaf tea, but I've been lurking a bit.

If you can type, then you are sober!

283 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:17:08pm

re: #272 LEGION

Looks like the pups playing in the mud by a river bank after a rain storm.

Close -- at the park, by the pond, after a rainstorm...

284 Cognito  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:17:24pm
Well, I can’t stream it here without paying absurd licensing fees through the usual suspects, of course.

Could you stream something like an 'LGF station' through Pandora? You couldn't do songs on demand, but it's not bad.

285 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:17:50pm

Bumper sticker I've always wanted to see:

"Get off the phone and drive your fucking car!"

286 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:17:50pm

re: #279 Syrah

Nah, they like to hold "October" surprises. Thats when the losers finally start paying attention before voting.

287 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:17:59pm

re: #282 LoFlyer

If you can type, then you are sober!

Well, actually, that's no guarantee, especially if you grab the liqueur-filled chocolates.

288 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:18:03pm

re: #279 Syrah

Its a good plan.

The races tighten up in the last two weeks.

The worst of the dirt is usually dropped in the last two weeks. It is when the campaigns are too broke or too frazzled to respond appropriately.

Are you making any progress? All of my friends seem to be flaming liberals. I may have "converted" one college student and one disgruntled Hillary supporter.

Two measly votes.

289 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:18:11pm

re: #283 christheprofessor

Do I get a cookie?

290 EC Marm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:18:27pm

re: #278 LEGION

B.O. Body Oder - so where is he going after Europe- Uranus?


After the World Tour, we're talking the Milky Way, at least!

/ I'm gonna ignore the other. Family blog ya know.

291 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:18:40pm

re: #280 LEGION

Do they get ya Ticked off?
/

Slightly! my dogs have done real well getting rid of em'. They are my "best" boys!

292 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:18:54pm

I am so tired tonight it's not even funny. I think we made a mistake having two family members having surgery in the same week. And the one I thought was going to cause trouble isn't.

293 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:19:01pm

re: #253 VegasRick

My wild guess is more along the lines of Matthew Murray, who killed 4 people at two locations in Colorado in 2007. Police said he "hated Christians."

294 VegasRick  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:19:03pm

Savage has a caller (obviously a black man) on right now saying that black kids wear the "sagging" pants because their pants are hand me downs from their big brothers. What an asshole!

295 DistantThunder  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:19:09pm

Speaking of music, my brother runs the lighting system for a major venue in the South Bay ARea in Saratoga. They had a 16 million dollar renovation, the engineer signs off on the lighting rig. My brother shows up the next day to prepare for Boston-the band, and the lighting rig is completely wrong. He can see it moving; he can see that things are not bolted together right and bolted to the wrong structure.

My brother tells the head guy who blows him off. My brother says: People are going to die, this is a disaster waiting to happen. The low brow tells him that the engineer, who builds bridges even, has signed off, so don't worry about.

My brother talks to his entire crew that have no power to do anything. Hours later he still complaining, and the lowbrow gets mad at him and tells him essentially to shut up.

The Boston road rats show up, take one look at the rigging and say: That's entirely wrong, it's dangerous and we're not playing. Show's cancelled"

My brother said the head guy gives him this pathetic, wimpy, you-were-right look. The entire stage had to be taken apart and moved to be completely reconstructed. Six shows were cancelled, at moved to the Flynt Center. Bro said Boston was awesome. Also, he said everyone treats him with a lot more respect.

I proud of my brother for being the whistleblower and not backing down under pressure.

296 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:19:27pm

re: #286 LEGION

Nah, they like to hold "October" surprises. Thats when the losers finally start paying attention before voting.

About mid-October.

297 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:19:48pm

re: #277 Walter L. Newton

It's the same situation in Music and the physical arts (painting, sculpture etc.). A trust fund seems to be the only requirement for a career in the arts these days.

298 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:19:49pm

I laughed at this bumper sticker: "Men have feelings too, but who cares"...

... until I realized that it was on my daughter's car.

299 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:20:20pm

re: #288 hermeneutics

We'll take all we can- actually - I heard the polls are about even- Osamaobama didn't get a bounce from his Your a peeing vacation- Johnny boy did!

300 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:20:26pm

Good evening all. Tired this evening. Been working on getting ready for the weekend since I got home from work and grocery store. Almost done. Just need to fold some clothes and pack a weekend bag.

Had a local channel on while I was working and they had a special on about Dr. DeBakey. What an amazing man. I recorded it so that I could go back and watch it with full attention later.

We lost an amazing medical mind two weeks ago. Three months ago he purchased a brand new porche (sp?) and was driving it around (this was at 90+ years old)!

301 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:21:01pm

re: #275 Noam Sayin'

You know you can buy those vacuum pumpers that will help you keep the wine fresh for up to a couple weeks.

Oh, wait...

Heh...

re: #276 LoFlyer

I love to take my dogs out in the woods. Hate the ticks though!

Ticks have been really bad this year -- pulled seven off the dog (all attached) and two off of me (one attached, one crawling). Just put her on Vectra 3D three weeks ago and haven't seen any since...

Wanted a chick magnet and got a tick magnet!

302 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:21:24pm

re: #290 EC Marm

hey its a real live planet! It's ed uc actsanal- and a line from the E.T. movie!

303 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:21:44pm

re: #296 Syrah

About mid-October.

Syrah, do you think there's a whitey tape?

304 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:21:52pm

re: #301 christheprofessor

Wanted a chick magnet and got a tick magnet!

Both bleed you dry.

/did I just type that?

305 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:22:03pm

re: #287 vxbush

Well, actually, that's no guarantee, especially if you grab the liqueur-filled chocolates.

Let me rephrase that, If you can type CORRECTLY, whilst hold a chocolate and sucking down a beer, then you are SOBER!

306 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:22:19pm

re: #281 Walter L. Newton

Bumper sticker in Roswell, New Mexico.

"Fasten your seat belts. It makes it harder for them to suck you out of the car."

Bumper sticker on a pick-up that cut me off on my bike (was gonna flip him the bird, but decided against it):

Body Piercing by Glock

307 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:22:27pm

re: #295 DistantThunder

Speaking of music, my brother runs the lighting system for a major venue in the South Bay ARea in Saratoga. They had a 16 million dollar renovation, the engineer signs off on the lighting rig. My brother shows up the next day to prepare for Boston-the band, and the lighting rig is completely wrong. He can see it moving; he can see that things are not bolted together right and bolted to the wrong structure.

My brother tells the head guy who blows him off. My brother says: People are going to die, this is a disaster waiting to happen. The low brow tells him that the engineer, who builds bridges even, has signed off, so don't worry about.

My brother talks to his entire crew that have no power to do anything. Hours later he still complaining, and the lowbrow gets mad at him and tells him essentially to shut up.

The Boston road rats show up, take one look at the rigging and say: That's entirely wrong, it's dangerous and we're not playing. Show's cancelled"

My brother said the head guy gives him this pathetic, wimpy, you-were-right look. The entire stage had to be taken apart and moved to be completely reconstructed. Six shows were cancelled, at moved to the Flynt Center. Bro said Boston was awesome. Also, he said everyone treats him with a lot more respect.

I proud of my brother for being the whistleblower and not backing down under pressure.

Good call on your brother's part. Job one, in any public venue, especially a place like a theatre is SAFETY.

A safety issue is the quickest thing to shut a show down. There are too many variables all working at the same time, and if they are not just right, wammo.

Was it a union venue? If it was, he only needed to make one call to his local.

308 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:23:06pm

re: #304 Silhouette

Both bleed you dry.

/did I just type that?

I like your sense of humor... ;)

309 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:23:23pm

re: #261 christheprofessor

New avatar test...

Did they ever get clean?

310 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:23:23pm

re: #305 LoFlyer

Let me rephrase that, If you can type CORRECTLY, whilst hold a chocolate and sucking down a beer, then you are SOBER!

Heh. Okay.

I'm just so tired, and I swear I haven't done anything today. AND I got to sleep until 9:00 this morning! I really don't have a reason to complain.

311 DistantThunder  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:23:25pm

re: #307 Walter L. Newton

Good call on your brother's part. Job one, in any public venue, especially a place like a theatre is SAFETY.

A safety issue is the quickest thing to shut a show down. There are too many variables all working at the same time, and if they are not just right, wammo.

Was it a union venue? If it was, he only needed to make one call to his local.

I don't know if it is union - but he's not.

312 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:24:14pm

re: #258 Walter L. Newton

I guess if the technique is correct.

313 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:24:46pm

re: #289 LEGION

Do I get a cookie?

As Hillary would say, close, but no cigar...

314 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:25:07pm

re: #299 LEGION

We'll take all we can- actually - I heard the polls are about even- Osamaobama didn't get a bounce from his Your a peeing vacation- Johnny boy did!

Well, not quite true. Ras has a bigger split between Ob and Mc than usual. Besides that, many polls are rolling averages so the "bounce" doesn't show up straightaway.

And people tend to digest information slowly. Obama's trip, if shown to ordinary Americans , will probably come back to haunt him. There's so much ammo in his ego, anti-Americanism and refusing to see the troops. Hopefully, people will revise their thinking and see him as a rounded figure that is NOT electable.

315 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:26:02pm

re: #297 Killgore Trout

It's the same situation in Music and the physical arts (painting, sculpture etc.). A trust fund seems to be the only requirement for a career in the arts these days.

You've got that right. I've been doing this for 40 years, and I've seen it all. And I've seen the change in real talent versus the dude that goes to best buy, hooks himself up with a Squire, amp and a strap, and they are the next rock star.

And the young kids in our theatre classes, I don't even want to get into that.

316 jcw46  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:26:13pm

re: #300 Dolphin


We lost an amazing medical mind two weeks ago. Three months ago he purchased a brand new porche (sp?) (porsche) and was driving it around (this was at 90+ years old)!

Well perhaps he died having fun. (not the last seconds of course; the "oh sh!t moment")

317 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:27:06pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton


And the young kids in our theatre classes, I don't even want to get into that.

I have to say that while I've never spent time in a theatre class, the best actors I have seen are usually at vacation Bible schools.

318 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:27:12pm

re: #295 DistantThunder

Good on your brother! (raises glass): Clink!

/may very well have save a life or two

319 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:27:45pm

re: #317 vxbush

I have to say that while I've never spent time in a theatre class, the best actors I have seen are usually at vacation Bible schools.

Good one!

320 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:27:50pm

re: #295 DistantThunder

Van Halen and the Brown M&Ms.

Van Halen's standard performance contract contained a provision calling for them to be provided with a bowl of M&Ms, but with all the brown candies removed.


It had a practical purpose.

The legendary "no brown M&Ms" contract clause was indeed real, but the purported motivation for it was not. The M&Ms provision was included in Van Halen's contracts not as an act of caprice, but because it served a practical purpose: to provide an easy way of determining whether the technical specifications of the contract had been thoroughly read (and complied with). As Van Halen lead singer David Lee Roth explained in his autobiography:
321 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:27:51pm

re: #312 bellamags

I guess if the technique is correct.

Touche'

322 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:27:54pm

re: #288 hermeneutics

Are you making any progress? All of my friends seem to be flaming liberals. I may have "converted" one college student and one disgruntled Hillary supporter.

Two measly votes.

More than I usually manage.

All that I have done up to this point is express doubts, but not in an overtly partisan manner. This is something that requires a soft touch. People have to believe that they have drawn their conclusions on their own. If they think that they are being pressured or manipulated into thinking or doing something, they will resist.

Most everyone I know and work with are Latte Liberals or Working Class Democrats.

Obama bothers people on a visceral level. I just do what I can to prick their doubts, especially when they bring up the subject.

323 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:27:59pm

Has anyone heard about credit card services being down all over the place, I just went to the movies and they said cash only cerdit card services were down all over New Hampshire and the North East.

324 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:28:19pm

re: #309 jcm

Did they ever get clean?

Mine (the blond on the left) did! There's a pond about 100 yards away, and whenever she gets dirty, she goes in the pond...

325 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:28:25pm

re: #317 vxbush

I have to say that while I've never spent time in a theatre class, the best actors I have seen are usually at vacation Bible schools.

The vacationeers or the pastors?

326 LoFlyer  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:28:39pm

re: #310 vxbush

Heh. Okay.

I'm just so tired, and I swear I haven't done anything today. AND I got to sleep until 9:00 this morning! I really don't have a reason to complain.

Just noticed my "hold" should of been "holding". Maybe the police are right, two beers do degrade your mental abilities...Never seemed to effect me 25 years ago....

327 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:28:53pm

re: #303 hermeneutics

Syrah, do you think there's a whitey tape?

No.

328 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:29:36pm

Had to run to the VCR- SciFi shows on. Can't watch them now- watching a tight Yankee/boxsux game.

329 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:29:43pm

re: #325 Walter L. Newton

The vacationeers or the pastors?

Neither. The volunteers on stage. Although the children's pastor did a good job of smiling while his hair was being cut off as the kids raised enough to call his bluff on going bald.

330 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:30:06pm

re: #323 BBEV

yes. at my business tonight as of 5:30 pm.

331 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:30:20pm

re: #326 LoFlyer

Just noticed my "hold" should of been "holding". Maybe the police are right, two beers do degrade your mental abilities...Never seemed to effect me 25 years ago....

I think life alone is enough to degrade your mental abilities. Beer just makes it worse.

332 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:30:20pm

re: #320 jcm

Interesting. Nice to know they weren't that much of spoilt "divas".

At my gun club, halfway down the list of 30 or so rules is the sentence "Turn this page over and write your name." They know who actually read the instructions before signing.

333 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:30:53pm

re: #329 vxbush

Neither. The volunteers on stage. Although the children's pastor did a good job of smiling while his hair was being cut off as the kids raised enough to call his bluff on going bald.

I just looked at your avatar. I am ready to do your command.

334 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:31:06pm

re: #331 vxbush

How do you turn a dog into a fox? Drink 12 beers!

335 hermeneutics  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:31:11pm

re: #322 Syrah

More than I usually manage.

All that I have done up to this point is express doubts, but not in an overtly partisan manner. This is something that requires a soft touch. People have to believe that they have drawn their conclusions on their own. If they think that they are being pressured or manipulated into thinking or doing something, they will resist.

Most everyone I know and work with are Latte Liberals or Working Class Democrats.

Obama bothers people on a visceral level. I just do what I can to prick their doubts, especially when they bring up the subject.

I like your gentle approach and try to mimic it. Your observation about Obama's visceral appeal/rejection is quite insightful -- it seems, though, that there are few people who aren't sure of their gut-level response to Obama. Not good.

336 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:31:12pm

Brain Williams (NBC) is going to blow Dinnerjacket.

337 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:31:40pm

re: #330 bellamags

yes. at my business tonight as of 5:30 pm.

What state"

338 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:31:44pm

re: #333 Walter L. Newton

I just looked at your avatar. I am ready to do your command.

Why? (Not that I'm complaining. The dishes definitely need your attention, as does the laundry.)

339 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:32:03pm

re: #324 christheprofessor

Mine (the blond on the left) did! There's a pond about 100 yards away, and whenever she gets dirty, she goes in the pond...

LOL! What's more fun than a big mud puddle!

340 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:32:28pm

re: #338 vxbush

Why? (Not that I'm complaining. The dishes definitely need your attention, as does the laundry.)

How's you son doing?

341 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:32:29pm

re: #337 BBEV

State of Confusion.

342 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:33:17pm

re: #331 vxbush

I think life alone is enough to degrade your mental abilities.

My father complains because he can't seem to find the word he is looking for sometimes (at 87, I cut him some slack!)...

343 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:01pm

re: #287 vxbush

How is your son doing?

344 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:01pm

re: #340 jcm

How's you son doing?

He had two wisdom teeth removed on Wednesday. We had a really hard time of getting his pain under control that day. But today he's been doing much better. He hurts more in the morning, and doesn't like the pain medicine that much because it makes him sleepy. But he seems to be healing pretty well.

Now, if only I could say the same thing of my husband, the poor dear.

345 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:12pm

re: #338 vxbush

Why? (Not that I'm complaining. The dishes definitely need your attention, as does the laundry.)

It was mismerizing. I'm a bit OCD, so I don't mind cleaning up.

346 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:15pm

re: #341 LEGION

State of Confusion.

OK I get it, it's a friday night but I'm trying to find out what going on.

347 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:27pm

re: #339 jcm

LOL! What's more fun than a big mud puddle!

A bigger pond!

348 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:41pm

re: #343 Dolphin

How is your son doing?

Heh. See 344. You're only a few seconds late. :D

349 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:34:45pm

re: #338 vxbush

I also like the one with the circle and cross over the dingbats face saying- Commies aren't cool.

350 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:35:35pm

re: #344 vxbush

He had two wisdom teeth removed on Wednesday. We had a really hard time of getting his pain under control that day. But today he's been doing much better. He hurts more in the morning, and doesn't like the pain medicine that much because it makes him sleepy. But he seems to be healing pretty well.

Now, if only I could say the same thing of my husband, the poor dear.

That's good to hear.
Do you have anyone to give respite care? Let you and your husband get away for a few hours or couple of days?

351 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:35:36pm

re: #345 Walter L. Newton

It was mismerizing. I'm a bit OCD, so I don't mind cleaning up.

Well, do I have a OC job for you!

[claps hands together]

Yessiree, Bob, we can definitely put you to work around here. Why don't you show up at 10:00am tomorrow, 'kay?

352 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:35:57pm

re: #344 vxbush

Mmmmmmm- pain medication. Gooooodddddd.

353 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:36:50pm

re: #351 vxbush

Well, do I have a OC job for you!

[claps hands together]

Yessiree, Bob, we can definitely put you to work around here. Why don't you show up at 10:00am tomorrow, 'kay?

? OC (Orange County). Errr, do I need to hop a plane?

354 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:37:37pm

re: #350 jcm

That's good to hear.
Do you have anyone to give respite care? Let you and your husband get away for a few hours or couple of days?

Um, to be honest, right now I need a respite from the husband more than the son. I had to have someone come in and stay with the son so I could run the husband back to the emergency room. He keeps having this really unreal pain after his kidney stone surgery. We're not sure what's going on. The doctors keep checking but nothing seems to be triggering anything. They said if he comes in again with pain he's going to get another CT scan.

355 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:37:40pm

re: #329 vxbush

Neither. The volunteers on stage. Although the children's pastor did a good job of smiling while his hair was being cut off as the kids raised enough to call his bluff on going bald.

Our preacher flying across the sanctuary during VBS.

356 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:37:42pm

Yeah, I wuz gonna ask also. The OC?

357 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:38:28pm

re: #353 Walter L. Newton

? OC (Orange County). Errr, do I need to hop a plane?

Obsessive-compulsive. Oh, but you're not like Monk, are you? I mean, in him, it's cute. In an actual human being, it's a problem.

But yes, a plane would be necessary. Middle of Illinois. Corn field just outside.

358 itellu3times  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:38:55pm

re: #226 Syrah

The passage that you cited, I think she is referring to her ring, one of the rings of the elven lords. Or am I wrong?

Righto, at the Mirror of Galadriel.

359 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:39:14pm

re: #354 vxbush

Dang it- best wishes for you all- hope the ding bat surgeons didn't leave a scalpel in there or something.

360 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:39:21pm

re: #355 Silhouette

Our preacher flying across the sanctuary during VBS.

Excellent! The kids will remember that for years.

361 jcm  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:39:40pm

re: #354 vxbush

Um, to be honest, right now I need a respite from the husband more than the son. I had to have someone come in and stay with the son so I could run the husband back to the emergency room. He keeps having this really unreal pain after his kidney stone surgery. We're not sure what's going on. The doctors keep checking but nothing seems to be triggering anything. They said if he comes in again with pain he's going to get another CT scan.

Ohhhhh! MY!
Prayers for him and YOU! (you're son too)

362 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:39:56pm

re: #357 vxbush

Obsessive-compulsive. Oh, but you're not like Monk, are you? I mean, in him, it's cute. In an actual human being, it's a problem.

But yes, a plane would be necessary. Middle of Illinois. Corn field just outside.

No, I'm not like Monk. But my parrot gets a little annoyed. I keep plucking out her feathers before they fall on the floor.

363 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:40:00pm

re: #344 vxbush

He had two wisdom teeth removed on Wednesday. We had a really hard time of getting his pain under control that day. But today he's been doing much better. He hurts more in the morning, and doesn't like the pain medicine that much because it makes him sleepy. But he seems to be healing pretty well.

Now, if only I could say the same thing of my husband, the poor dear.

How old is he? I had all four of mine removed (one abcessed - sp?) at once, including hammering and liquid valium. Felt no pain the next day (on medication). Was recovered enough that a few days later, I ate Thanksgiving dinner....

But then, I was 22 at the time...

364 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:40:14pm

re: #316 jcw46

Thanks for the spelling correction. I knew, looking at it, it didn't look right.

Too lazy right now to go and look, but he died suddenly and a unexpectedly at 93 or so. A doctor they interviewed on this special said that the day Dr. DeBakey died he had gone over and had lunch with him. Dr. DeBakey had gumbo on the stove and they had gone out to his garden an picked peppers and tomatoes to add to the gumbo.

365 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:40:20pm

re: #337 BBEV

FL

366 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:40:39pm

re: #361 jcm

Ohhhhh! MY!
Prayers for him and YOU! (you're son too)

Yeah, I'll be honest--I'll take a few of those. And can you throw in something about the cats behaving, too? I'm a bit tired of them waking me up in the middle of the night.

367 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:41:57pm

re: #363 christheprofessor

How old is he? I had all four of mine removed (one abcessed - sp?) at once, including hammering and liquid valium. Felt no pain the next day (on medication). Was recovered enough that a few days later, I ate Thanksgiving dinner....

But then, I was 22 at the time...

He only had two to remove, so in theory he shouldn't be in that bad of shape. But his pain tolerance is really low. I'm guessing that's because of the brain injury.

I can't use that excuse with my husband. At least, I shouldn't.

368 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:42:05pm

re: #366 vxbush

Kick them outta the house! Meow!

369 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:42:31pm

re: #335 hermeneutics

I like your gentle approach and try to mimic it. Your observation about Obama's visceral appeal/rejection is quite insightful -- it seems, though, that there are few people who aren't sure of their gut-level response to Obama. Not good.

I think also that the constant "halo" shots and "Messiah" mockery is beginning to hurt him. I think that many people on left are a little put off by the adulatory hype that is the hallmark of his campaign.

Lefties like to think of themselves as worldly cynics who aren't easily made into suckers by phony baloney shows and circuses. I think they are beginning to feel a little uncomfortable in their plastic Obama wrappers and with that paper stick up their bum.

370 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:42:59pm

re: #368 LEGION

Kick them outta the house! Meow!

Oh, wait, you're talking about the cats, aren't you?

371 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:43:04pm

re: #354 vxbush

Wish I could offer some insight as to the problem -- but I can't. I hope he feels better soon...

372 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:43:09pm

re: #365 bellamags

FL

Thank you, and no one else is concerned about this.

373 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:43:30pm

That's what we do with ours- weather is great- they go caterwauling- just make sure the tick medicine is on them. They come home happy in the am and snooze the day away.

374 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:44:12pm

re: #372 BBEV

Thank you, and no one else is concerned about this.

Sorry, but I'm not out east, I haven't used my credit card since Wednesday, and my hands are kind of full. Plus there's no one I can call for you.

375 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:44:23pm

re: #370 vxbush

Da cats will come back- spouse may not- okay if that is what ya want!

376 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:44:43pm

re: #369 Syrah

good point. I think you are right about this. He's getting too "commercial".

377 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:44:49pm

re: #371 christheprofessor

Wish I could offer some insight as to the problem -- but I can't. I hope he feels better soon...

Hopefully time will heal both my men.

378 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:45:26pm

re: #367 vxbush

I think I missed something....

379 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:45:34pm

re: #375 LEGION

Da cats will come back- spouse may not- okay if that is what ya want!

What I want will have to wait for a while until everyone else is up and about.

380 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:46:46pm

re: #369 Syrah

But they like things stuck up their bums don't they? They always act like they have something there!

381 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:47:01pm

re: #378 christheprofessor

I think I missed something....

Okay, backing up and trying to explain what was supposed to be a joke:

Son has a lot of disabilities because of a brain injury. I'm thinking that brain injury is why he can't handle pain at all. My husband is also having trouble managing pain, but I don't suppose it would be too kind of me to say that he has a brain injury. I'm sure several wives would agree with me regarding their own husbands....

382 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:48:21pm

Oh no! Farnsworth screwed up! Mariano in for 5 outs! Cue the Sandman music.

383 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:48:24pm

And now I've killed the thread. Great.

384 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:48:30pm

re: #372 BBEV

Now that you mentioned it, its kind of weird it would affect such a large portion of the US.

385 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:48:33pm

re: #377 vxbush

Hopefully time will heal both my men.

They'll be fine...

386 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:49:43pm

re: #358 itellu3times

Sometimes it surprises me how much I know about those books.

387 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:50:04pm

re: #374 vxbush

Sorry, but I'm not out east, I haven't used my credit card since Wednesday, and my hands are kind of full. Plus there's no one I can call for you.

I'm not just concerned about me but the whole system.

388 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:50:16pm

re: #381 vxbush

Got it. Sorry, I didn't realize there was an injury...

/I don't remember that...

389 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:50:20pm

Youtube Video

Metallica- Enter Sandman!

390 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:50:29pm

re: #387 BBEV

I'm not just concerned about me but the whole system.

Are you thinking that it's something nefarious?

391 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:50:47pm

re: #384 bellamags

Now that you mentioned it, its kind of weird it would affect such a large portion of the US.

Thats what I'm talking about

392 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:51:17pm

re: #390 vxbush

Are you thinking that it's something nefarious?

Well it sure is not good.

393 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:51:40pm

re: #388 christheprofessor

Got it. Sorry, I didn't realize there was an injury...

/I don't remember that...

Well, I try not to bash everyone's face with it, but I never know who will remember and who won't. My apologies for confusing you (and anyone else).

Of course, there's always the chance that those of you drinking large quantities of alcohol won't remember anything in the morning, so I'll having nothing to apologize for, right? :D

394 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:51:53pm

re: #380 LEGION

But they like things stuck up their bums don't they? They always act like they have something there!

They often seem to think very highly of themselves.

I think that there is a lot of malignant narcissism on the far left.

395 marjoriemoon  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:52:03pm

re: #174 CyanSnowHawk

Metallica just looked like tools of the recording industry when they did that. Like it was written into their recording contract that they had to be vocal against internet piracy. Turned them from 'kick ass' to 'kiss ass' in a heartbeat.

Well, they did have a legal right to sue Napster, but they tried to sue their fan base (each individual who downloaded a song). From what I understand, their lawyers had to convince them that it would be a litigious nightmare that wouldn't net so much $, so they finally caved.

And anyway, I always thought they were overrated. James Hetfield does have that bad boy, sexy rocker dude thing going on.

396 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:52:25pm

A Beverly Hills hotel security guard told FOXNews.com he intervened this week between a man he identified as former Sen. John Edwards and tabloid reporters who chased down the former presidential hopeful after what they're calling a rendezvous with his mistress and love child.

Badddddd Johnny

397 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:52:44pm

re: #354 vxbush

Dang it. Forgot about your hubby's issues. So he made it through the surgery ok, but still is in pain? That's not good. Boy do you need a break! I know a few people that have kidney stones (my hubby being one) and surgery has never been an option for any of them. Must have been pretty bad.

398 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:53:17pm

re: #394 Syrah

They often seem to think very highly of themselves.

I think that there is a lot of malignant narcissism on the far left.

It's all the L3N2.

399 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:54:15pm

re: #383 vxbush

You might want to try giving them some alternative ways to handle the pain. Some people respond with just some lavender essential oil. Let them smell it, put some on a handkerchief and place it on their chest (not too much because its strong) You can find it on the internet. It relieves stress. Clary sage is better but it is harder to find and more expensive.

400 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:54:40pm

YEEEAHHHHH- Da Mariano got out of the 8th! Yanks up 1-0 top of 9th!

401 christheprofessor  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:54:55pm

re: #393 vxbush

No worries. And no, you won't. If I remember... ;)

402 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:55:07pm

re: #397 Dolphin

Dang it. Forgot about your hubby's issues. So he made it through the surgery ok, but still is in pain? That's not good. Boy do you need a break! I know a few people that have kidney stones (my hubby being one) and surgery has never been an option for any of them. Must have been pretty bad.

It wasn't a bit stone--only 4mm. But apparently it impacted the side of the ureter and wouldn't move. So when they blasted it, part of the stone stuck and they had to drag it out, scraping up the ureter wall. That probably what is causing the pain and spasms. It's just scary and yet tiring at the same time.

403 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:55:52pm

Gah, who needs to drink when I can't spell as it is. I mean, it wasn't a big stone.

404 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:56:30pm

re: #398 Sharmuta

It's all the L3N2.

Weapons grade.

405 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:57:55pm

re: #393 vxbush

You can use that excuse on me any time! lol. It may or may not be true (and probably isn't). I generally make it a rule to not post (or even be on the Internet after I have had a couple! With me, it is the fact that I am bad with names (and screen names) and, when at work, preoccupied!

406 LEGION  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:58:38pm

My spouse just takes 8 Oxycotins and has a 75 mcg/h FentanylTransdermal pain patch to make it through the day. Pain is a pain.

407 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:59:48pm

OK now this is getting weirder, Comcast was to have certain movies on tonight I called them and they said they are having technical difficulties, WTF.

408 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:59:51pm

re: #406 LEGION

My spouse just takes 8 Oxycotins and has a 75 mcg/h FentanylTransdermal pain patch to make it through the day. Pain is a pain.

Yeah, I remember you talking earlier about her pain issues. May I ask what causes the problem(s)?

409 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 6:59:59pm

Mmm, fun wisdom teeth talk. My dad just informed me a couple of days ago that I'm having mine removed on August 12. Of course, they're starting to bug me a little so I won't complain. Too much.

410 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:00:52pm

re: #409 Fat Jolly Penguin

Mmm, fun wisdom teeth talk. My dad just informed me a couple of days ago that I'm having mine removed on August 12. Of course, they're starting to bug me a little so I won't complain. Too much.

Just remember: Pain medication is my friend.

411 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:01:29pm

re: #406 LEGION

My spouse just takes 8 Oxycotins and has a 75 mcg/h FentanylTransdermal pain patch to make it through the day. Pain is a pain.

Join the club, my wife is in the same boat and 15 differant meds. Nothing really helps.

412 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:01:44pm

re: #407 BBEV

That is messed up.

413 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:02:16pm

re: #412 bellamags

That is messed up.

Ya it is.

414 Fat Jolly Penguin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:02:41pm

re: #410 vxbush

Just remember: Pain medication is my friend.

Righto! I don't have too big of an issue with pain, but when they start taking the sedation route and throwing around words like "major surgery," I cringe a bit.

415 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:04:26pm

re: #413 BBEV

Satellite?

416 BBEV  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:05:29pm

re: #415 bellamags

Satellite?

Nope, cable. If LGF goes down I really going to start to worry

417 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:07:02pm

I have hydrocodone for my migraines. I resist taking it. First, I do not like the way it makes me feel (wired), and second, you can build up resistance to the pain meds to where they are not as effective or quit working all together.

Addiction is another concern, but it is not a tendency with me.

418 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:07:30pm

Well, unless Legion replies to me fairly quickly, I'm going to get off and do some reading before bedtime. I'll lurk a little bit and see if I get a response.

/just in case

419 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:08:42pm

re: #418 vxbush

I hope you get some well deserved rest and a relaxing, uneventful, painless (for your boys) weekend!

420 Dolphin  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:09:17pm

What cha' reading?

421 vxbush  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:11:53pm

re: #420 Dolphin

What cha' reading?

Oh, just some of the old Left Behind books. I don't have the complete set, so I'm going through the ones I have again. Just something to remind me that my life isn't as bad as I might think. :D

422 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:18:40pm

re: #416 BBEV

My computer just completely died and I couldn't even get it to turn back on. Freaked me out. It just came unplugged. duuhhh. Blond moment.

423 Silhouette  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:23:50pm

re: #422 bellamags

My computer just completely died and I couldn't even get it to turn back on. Freaked me out. It just came unplugged. duuhhh. Blond moment.

My best story. Our garbage disposal went kablooie, and would not revive with out efforts. We buy a new one, and I get down on the floor to detach the old one.

That is when I saw the "reset" button.

424 bellamags  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:35:05pm

GTG. see ya later

425 stevieray  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 7:39:33pm

re: #335 hermeneutics

I like your gentle approach and try to mimic it. Your observation about Obama's visceral appeal/rejection is quite insightful -- it seems, though, that there are few people who aren't sure of their gut-level response to Obama. Not good.

I have a new theory rattling around my noggin that ties into that...

I think the reason many folks fall for Obama, at least the over educated ones [who really should know better], is in fact due to their high level of education... especially in the humanities.

Much of what students learn in college liberal arts courses today consists of reprogramming, not further education. The study of subjects like peace studies, multiculturalism, deconstructionism -- indeed, nearly the entire post-modern curriculum required for graduation -- is designed to strip away the lessons learned up to that point, in the classroom and out, and replace that hard won knowledge with an artificial and ideologically correct philosophy and world view.

Since that new thought structure has little relation to the real world and the real life the student has lived to that point, it generates a heady, swirling "oh wow" experience... an experience mistaken for enlightenment. Since the various parts have been refined over decades, the parts mesh well, further fooling the recipient into thinking they have been offered "the real inside info", the keys to deep understanding. What they really have received is an artificially induced dissociative experience.

Once the students hit the real world, many see through the facade and move on with their lives. But others avoid the real world by staying in academia, or hiding out in the extended classwomb of the non-profits and the arts... and they act to maintain the illusions in both themselves and their friends in the real world -- often by emotional bludgeoning. Membership in the club is enforced by fear and loathing.

So that's why Obamabots are so easily suckered... they have been taught to ignore their life experiences and their own guts, and to only rely on the imparted [fake] wisdom of the professoriat.

Leftism is a mental disorder -- a dissociative one.

[just a new theory of mine]

426 Syrah  Fri, Jul 25, 2008 8:54:45pm

re: #425 stevieray

I blame Narcissism and Nihilism.

Its starts with the cartoons that our children watch, that even we watched in our youth, the disdain for tradition and history that they teach our children, that they tried to teach us, the “you are special” and the “you are deserving” crap that they feed their minds with, that they tried to feed ours with. These things, in all there myriad forms, these transmitters of hatred and contempt, of self-love and selfishness, all work in concert to reduce humans to animals more controlled by their passions then in control of them.

Its not just the cartoons. Its the whole of the cultural media, and it is the schools too.

In the schools, in the colleges, in the movies, in the sitcoms, in the magazines and in the music that they consume, they are told that everything is shit and lies. They are told that the only thing that is perfect and good is their own person.

These new creatures that have been created in our era, they want, and they think that their wants are equivalent to needs, and they believe that it is a wrong that their wants are not satisfied at their whim.

They are thus made incompetent and incapable and they know that they fall far short of their own image of themselves, an image created out of false self-esteem chants and mantras. They hate themselves for failing to be the Übermensch that they have been taught to believe that they are.

They have no grounding.

They have no respect.

They have nothing that they would not destroy.

They have our future in their hands.

427 stevieray  Sat, Jul 26, 2008 6:28:18am

re: #426 Syrah

Nihilism is the end result of marxism. Once a society organizes around the idea "each according to their ability, each according to their needs", widespread nihilism is inevitable. That basic credo of marxism boils down to a simple message -- nothing matters. A government that guarantees your basic needs will be met as a matter of rights, not earnings, then life is empty. Nothing you do or don't do can really hurt you... your belly will be full, your body clothed, your family will have a roof over their head regardless of anything you do. Nothing matters. Nihilism as your organizing principle.

Check out this link from Killian. The poison runs deep in the education establishment.

Trusting your child's mind to a marxist teacher is no different than trusting his body to a pedophile. It is neglect.


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