Post colonial guilt has no bounds.

ich bin ein jelly donut

VDH, one of the most cogent thinkers extant.

Um, I dunno. Because he's a socialist tool like many of them?

Because he's unlike Bush in every superficial way that matters to Europeans, that's why.

How do I love thee...ummmmmm...ahh....ummmm...aaahhhhh

Europeans like being told what to do, what to think, how much of their property to fork over to the government.

The smart ones left.

re: #4 loppyd

Um, I dunno. Because he's a socialist tool like many of them?

BINGO and a big ding looyd

I'm guessing because they have shared values, a world view rather than nationalistic. "People of Berlin, People of the World....."
Also he plays nicely into their resentment of the US. Obama does not like America either, only the utopian vision that he & his wife see as the future.

Because America is the Daddy figure and they love to see Daddy spank himself. Later when the Russians try to move back in they will run crying to Daddy.

Europeans love Obama because they share his hatred of America.

In time, the Europeans will hate Obama too.

re: #8 jorline

BINGO and a big ding looyd

Now that I have my ding I can leave for the day.

Later, Lizard Nation.

BBL Maybe

re: #11 lifeofthemind

Because America is the Daddy figure and they love to see Daddy spank himself. Later when the Russians try to move back in they will run crying to Daddy.

At which point Daddy had better say "You're a big boy now. You deal with it"

When hasn't Europe preferred the leftist in the US election?

re: #13 loppyd

Headed to Fenway?

re: #10 opnion

I'm guessing because they have shared values, a world view rather than nationalistic. "People of Berlin, People of the World....."
Also he plays nicely into their resentment of the US. Obama does not like America either, only the utopian vision that he & his wife see as the future.

The last people to try to put them into a one-world situation were the Soviets. Before that, the Nazis, the Kaiser, Napoleon...it just goes on.
Won't they ever catch on?

very insightful.courting the europeans has to be the stupidest election strategy i've ever seen.

They love him because they know he will be disastrous for America. Our loss is their gain.

The final irony?

The hated George Bush is still around; Chirac, Schroeder, Villapin et al. are history. Iraq is secure. Iran is becoming isolated. North Korea supposedly is denuked.

News to me.

And frankly, why does everybody else care so much. It is like ordering in a restaurant and everybody at the table keeps asking me, "What are you ordering? What are you ordering?"

Do we bug them? No.

VDH is teh awesome.

re: #13 loppyd

Now that I have my ding I can leave for the day.

Later, Lizard Nation.

BBL Maybe

Wait! I can't log on at WRKO for some reason. Any other outlet to stream Howie from?

re: #4 loppyd

Um, I dunno. Because he's a socialist tool like many of them?

He's effete too. Don't forget that.

re: #16 Leonidas Hoplite

Headed to Fenway?

Used to wash dishes at restaurant at Top O' The Hub. and looked down onto games at Fenway during smokle breaks, but rarely could afford a ticket.

No wonder my GGGGGG Grandfather left there,........ 400 years ago!

We are uncultured, uninformed, naive dolts in their eyes. Obama is a perfect match for them.....he should move there and run for President of the E.U.

The Europeans have more faith in the state and equality than the individual and freedom. The US (on the right, at least) values the individual and freedom above all else. From my perspective, if we have a leader that pisses off the bureaucrats in Brussels, we are on the right track. If they ever start praising our leaders, you better run and hide your wallet (and freedoms, too!)

re: #17 Capitalist Tool

The last people to try to put them into a one-world situation were the Soviets. Before that, the Nazis, the Kaiser, Napoleon...it just goes on.
Won't they ever catch on?

Some people never learn. Western Europe is in decline, Easter Europe is on the rise. They seem to get it.

re: #1 karmic_inquisitor

the only reson they left their colonies was because their maint.was becoming untenable.if they (europeans)had the means they would be right back to colonising whatever they could get their hands on.don't buy the sour grapes retoric.

BHO speeches for July are back up....
Still missing?
His July 2 National Security speech, where he proposed the Civilian National Security Force.

Loppy,

Now that I have my ding I can leave for the day.

What a ding-a-ling.

/;-P

re: #28 opnion

Some people never learn. Western Europe is in decline, Easter Europe is on the rise. They seem to get it.

Yeah! Especially the Czechs.

NRO briefing:
Hitchens and Hanson dismember Buchanan's revisionism.

re: #30 jcm

BHO speeches for July are back up....
Still missing?
His July 2 National Security speech, where he proposed the Civilian National Security Force.

They are buying stock in brown shirt manufacturers before they post the speech...

re: #26 saberry0530

one of the guys i work with is always going on,and on about ireland(how great it is blah,blah)i told him"there's a reason my forbearers spent their last dime for a ticket on a leaky boat to go to a place they have never been,where they know noone,just to get away from that place.

re: #30 jcm

BHO speeches for July are back up....
Still missing?
His July 2 National Security speech, whe
re he proposed the Civilian National Security Force.

Why aren't the Republicans screaming abouit that?
What earthly purpose would such a force serve ,except as a place guard for a potential dictator?

Like Spaniards voted for Zapatero the socialist appeaser who promised to bring Spanish troops from Iraq if elected.

Now Spain is a laughingstock country with socialists ruining things & welcoming Wahhabis to build mosques & sing kumbaya.

VDH is excellent and in great form. Charles and others will also be particularly interested in watching him and Christopher Hitchens dissect Buchanan's latest book.

re: #32 Capitalist Tool

Yeah! Especially the Czechs.

Czech Please!

re: #35 Boondock St. Bender

one of the guys i work with is always going on,and on about ireland(how great it is blah,blah)i told him"there's a reason my forbearers spent their last dime for a ticket on a leaky boat to go to a place they have never been,where they know noone,just to get away from that place.

It has changed a lot - though the weather still sucks.

re: #33 looking closely

NRO briefing:
Hitchens and Hanson dismember Buchanan's revisionism.

You just beat me to it - good catch!

One quibble with VDH is that he writes as though it's assumed that Obama will be the next president. A slight rewording would fix that.

re: #39 Drained Brain

hoprfully tearing out pages as they go!

re: #32 Capitalist Tool

Yeah! Especially the Czechs.

There are going to be fortunes made in the old Eastern bloc.
The locals have lost their chains & they welcome foreign entrepreneurs

Not all Europeans love Obama... I for one don't (I'm Danish).

Never liked him actually. Just about every single of his suggested policies suck, even though he has begun flip-flopping on some of them - which makes him even worse.

re: #36 opnion

Why aren't the Republicans screaming abouit that?
What earthly purpose would such a force serve ,except as a place guard for a potential dictator?

Yeah, that caught my eye so I went to his site to see the official BHO version. The July 2 speech was missing, I went back later and they eliminated all the July speeches. So far the July speech have come and gone 3 times, and no July 2 speech.

Because they are sick and tired of looking up at us and want the US to be on the same level as their sorry asses.

A lot of the Europeans I talked to in my recent trip to Ireland (I met Scotts, English, Germans, French, Spanish and of course Irish) generally blamed the US for their troubles, whatever they were.

Obama agrees with them and blames the US for everything too.

re: #41 Leonidas Hoplite

the place looks beutiful,i haven't been there (been to scotland)
it's just he won't shut up about it!80% of my crew is of irish extraction,and we keep telling him to shut up!

Best VDH in a long time.

Pwned, VDH style!

re: #38 buzzsawmonkey

Now that is a Freudian typo.

No, actually, my family & I love to vacation in Easter Europe.
It's right next to Christmas

re: #46 Xenobyte

Not all Europeans love Obama... I for one don't (I'm Danish).

Never liked him actually. Just about every single of his suggested policies suck, even though he has begun flip-flopping on some of them - which makes him even worse.

Not all Americans love him either. Unfortunately, due to apathy, it won't take more than about 26% of registered voters to vote for him to win. Less than 50% of all registered voters typically go to the polls!

re: #7 Leonidas Hoplite

Europeans like being told what to do, what to think, how much of their property to fork over to the government.

The smart ones left came here.

Fixed it for ya.

OT:

The DOW is up 240, the S&P is up 24, and oil is down about 2 and a half bucks.

I doubt you will hear a word on the MSM news tonight.

be back later,the fish are calling!and i have to go liberate a few with my lil'guys.

re: #54 sattv4u2

Not all Americans love him either. Unfortunately, due to apathy, it won't take more than about 26% of registered voters to vote for him to win. Less than 50% of all registered voters typically go to the polls!

Right, & his people are pumped.

Speaking of the Euroweenies' love for Obama I like to quote Dennis Miller:

"They want us to use our power to not use our power." (unless we're bailing them out, again). The Euroweenies only love America when it's been brought to its knees. Simply put, they see Obama as the means to that end.

I don't think all Europeans love Obama. Only the silly ones...

Europeans will suck up to any candidate who they think will give them the respect they think they deserve.

re: #56 3 wood

OT:

The DOW is up 240, the S&P is up 24, and oil is down about 2 and a half bucks.

I doubt you will hear a word on the MSM news tonight.

If you do, it's optimism based on the coming coronation.

re: #59 obscured by clouds

better Miller quote when asked about Obama being the 1st black president

"I'm not worried about the color of his skin, I'm worried about the lack of thickness of it"

re: #56 3 wood

OT:

The DOW is up 240, the S&P is up 24, and oil is down about 2 and a half bucks.

I doubt you will hear a word on the MSM news tonight.

DOW plunges 240 points! versus DOW closed slightly up today at 1X,XXX.

They love him because he's a pussy-boy fem.

There is a bumper sticker here, "Make Europe Angry, Vote McCain."

Self loating hath no name other than Obama.

There's no better way to prove to everyone how much we hate ourselves other than to elect this numbnuts.

re: #41 Leonidas Hoplite

It has changed a lot - though the weather still sucks.

Changed a real lot. Still beautiful, especially the Cliffs of Mohr, but after 3 weeks I'd seen enough old piles of rocks and was very happy to get back to the US.

Some Europeans are also very comfortable with socialism. I had to keep explaining how the US system of government works when I was in Ireland. Many seemed to think that the President is a dictator.

I think in that regard some Europeans are very attratcted to Obama's leaning toward a mixture of socialism and communism that I call Obammunism.

VDH should be running for president.

re: #64 Silhouette

DOW plunges 240 points! versus DOW closed slightly up today at 1X,XXX.

You nailed it.

re: #70 Shiplord Kirel

VDH should be running for president.

Too smart.

re: #56 3 wood

That will be the 4-5th story. First - Stevens indictment, Second - LA Quake, 3d global warming bit (make something up), and then you'll get to the solid economic story from the day.

Obamism is just an extreme form of anti-Americanism.

I believe it was Oscar Wilde who said that we cannot forgive those to whom we owe gratitude..... I suppose that deep down a lot of us Europeans take it for granted that if things go wrong you'll step in to sort them out for us.

I am amazed that you don' tell us to get lost. We deserve it.

I love our (European) cultural heritage, but it ceased to be fruitful a long time ago and has been based for too long on words rather than facts. That's why your Citizen of the World goes down so well over here....

re: #46 Xenobyte

Not all Europeans love Obama... I for one don't (I'm Danish).

Never liked him actually. Just about every single of his suggested policies suck, even though he has begun flip-flopping on some of them - which makes him even worse.

His flip-flopping might just mean that he's just a normal lyin'-ass politician, rather than the Marxist destroyer of worlds he seems to be, so that might be a good thing in his case.

You Danes are ahead of the curve in so many ways.
Bless U.

re: #74 buzzsawmonkey

I hear some of those folks in Easter Europe are pretty good eggs.

Oh yeah, they are eggcellent!

3wood,

A lot of the Europeans I talked to in my recent trip to Ireland (I met Scotts, English, Germans, French, Spanish and of course Irish) generally blamed the US for their troubles, whatever they were.

What were the "troubles" that they were laying on our doorstep?

For the same reason they esteem david hasselhoff

re: #48 Opinionated

Because they are sick and tired of looking up at us and want the US to be on the same level as their sorry asses.

Look at it positively. This time you have the dubious priveledge of being looked up upon.

re: #79 DeafDog

For the same reason they esteem david hasselhoff

They do & the French just love Jerry Lewis. It's just wrong.

...JFK-ish metrosexual.....

That's a good one. I have not heard that description of O before.

re: #3 rawmuse

And one of the most existent thinkers cogitating

re: #78 Dirk Diggler

What were the "troubles" that they were laying on our doorstep?

The global economy, global warming, high health care costs, high fuel costs, high cost of housing and terrorism.

That about covered it.

Posted this a couple of threads back just before it died so I'll try again.

Let's play fantasy baseball errr Cabinet.

VEEP - Romney
State - Bolton
Justice - Giuliani
Defense - Thompson
Good ideas for Commerce, Labor, HHS, Energy etc. requested.

What appears to be the almost exclusively German propensity to hero worship 'The Hoff,' is of absolutely no surprise whatsoever to anyone who has ever chanced to view German pron.

What this says about worshipping Hasslehoff, is anybody's guess.

What this says about me?.........Well, I've very much dealt with that, so........Moving on.........

re: #84 3 wood

The global economy, global warming, high health care costs, high fuel costs, high cost of housing and terrorism.

That about covered it.

I can usually think "moonbat" and I get the economy, environment, and terrorism (we're using up too much because we're rich, and making people mad) but how are we to blame for their high health care costs?

re: #84 3 wood

The global economy, global warming, high health care costs, high fuel costs, high cost of housing and terrorism.

That about covered it.

How are high housing prices in the UK related to anything the U.S. does?

re: #79 DeafDog

For the same reason they esteem david hasselhoff

Did someone say Jerry Lewis?

re: #85 lifeofthemind

Posted this a couple of threads back just before it died so I'll try again.

Let's play fantasy baseball errr Cabinet.

VEEP - Romney
State - Bolton
Justice - Giuliani
Defense - Thompson
Good ideas for Commerce, Labor, HHS, Energy etc. requested.

Be very afraid or you may get:

VEEP - Biden
State - Richardson
Justice - Clinton
Defense - Reed

re: #78 Dirk Diggler

3wood,

What were the "troubles" that they were laying on our doorstep?

"Troubles" Irish term for the IRA vs UDL/UK civil war of 1969 on. Shows a gift for understatement that the Irish would be furious to hear came from the English.

re: #24 shibumi

He's effete too. Don't forget that.

They like big ears too. That's why they built Euro Disney.

Style, style, style. Remember socialist Europe is where we get our designer eyeglass frames, Gucci bags, and French fashions. Instead of a strutting, Bible-quoting Texan, replete with southern accent and ‘smoke-em’ out lingo, they get an athletic, young, JFK-ish metrosexual, whose rhetoric is as empty as it is soothing. The English-only Obama lectures America on its need to emulate polyglot Europe; while a Spanish-speaking George Bush is hopelessly cast as a Texas yokel.

re: #92 Cygnus

They like big ears too. That's why they built Euro Disney.

Reminds me of the old joke about how french women hold thier liquor...

3wood,

The global economy, global warming, high health care costs, high fuel costs, high cost of housing and terrorism.

That about covered it.

High health care costs? In Europe? That can't be right.

I thought high health care costs were solely a byproduct of the rapacious, free-market American health care system?

I do not like like any of your leaders......Obama should have said. (well done VDH)

re: #94 DeafDog

Reminds me of the old joke about how french women hold thier liquor...

LEGGO OF MY EARS ,,,, I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING !

re: #96 WrathofG-d PIMF or OISU

I do not like look like any of your leaders......Obama should have said. (well done VDH)

According to my liberal Canadian wife, we "steal" Canadian and European doctors by paying doctors more money in the U.S. than what they'd make in the Canadian or European Socialist system. Therefore, they have a shortage of doctors, which leads to long wait times for care, etc.

If the U.S. didn't pay doctors so well, there'd be more doctors willing to stay and work in Canada or Europe for less money.

*shrug*

re: #87 Silhouette

I can usually think "moonbat" and I get the economy, environment, and terrorism (we're using up too much because we're rich, and making people mad) but how are we to blame for their high health care costs?

A majority of Euro-peons would love a ham sandwich if it would guarantee that the U.S would be humbled.

re: #99 Pyrocles

According to my liberal Canadian wife, we "steal" Canadian and European doctors by paying doctors more money in the U.S. than what they'd make in the Canadian or European Socialist system. Therefore, they have a shortage of doctors, which leads to long wait times for care, etc.

If the U.S. didn't pay doctors so well, there'd be more doctors willing to stay and work in Canada or Europe for less money.

*shrug*

I'm sure she is a perfectly sweet wonderful wife. You don't let her hear the credit cards or anything dangerous, do you?

re: #92 Cygnus

They like big ears too. That's why they built Euro Disney.

Barry said his ears are off limits!
So is his pastor, his nasty wife, his Muslim past & his terrorist associations.
He will let us know what we can talk about.

re: #99 Pyrocles

Thanks. Which would make us to blame for their wait times and potentially lower quality care, but I still fail to see how we make it cost more. If they are forced to pay more to keep their doctors, then they can either complain about having to pay them more OR complain about not paying them more and therefore losing them. But not both. But then again, I'm applying logic.

re: #99 Pyrocles

According to my liberal Canadian wife, we "steal" Canadian and European doctors by paying doctors more money in the U.S. than what they'd make in the Canadian or European Socialist system. Therefore, they have a shortage of doctors, which leads to long wait times for care, etc.

If the U.S. didn't pay doctors so well, there'd be more doctors willing to stay and work in Canada or Europe for less money.

*shrug*

That's rich......and may be partially true, but the lower earnings Canadian doctors can make induces fewer Canadians to become doctors. I suspect, as in Britain, that this is the main cause of the shortage. Britain can't import doctors fast enough. (though I would guess that the Canadian government heavily subsidizes medical educations reducing the cost of entry).

re: #102 opnion

Barry said his ears are off limits!
So is his pastor, his nasty wife, his Muslim past & his terrorist associations.
He will let us know what we can talk about.

We are only allowed to talk about how great a guy he is.

-------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------

OT - I wonder how the Euro-peons would have to say about a Romney VP bid?

re: #87 Silhouette

how are we to blame for their high health care costs?

We pay too much for doctors in the US and so the supply is too low in Europe

re: #105 FurryOldGuyJeans

We are only allowed to talk about how great a guy he is.

---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- ---------

OT - I wonder how the Euro-peons would have to say about a Romney VP bid?

Yeah, thats it! Thats the ticket!

re: #88 eschew_obfuscation

How are high housing prices in the UK related to anything the U.S. does?

Cause interest rates are higher in the EU due to the gobal economy, so if we would only "fix" the global economy their interest rates could drop.

Crazy, I know, but that's what I heard.

re: #106 3 wood

We pay too much for doctors in the US and so the supply is too low in Europe

Isn't it fun to hear them complain about the failings of their socialist garden of eden?.......even if they think they're complaining about us.

re: #106 3 wood

We pay too much for doctors in the US and so the supply is too low in Europe

Capitalism is so evil.

re: #95 Dirk Diggler

I thought high health care costs were solely a byproduct of the rapacious, free-market American health care system?

No, private clinics are popping up cause of the failing social system over there.

re: #99 Pyrocles

According to my liberal Canadian wife, we "steal" Canadian and European doctors by paying doctors more money in the U.S. than what they'd make in the Canadian or European Socialist system. Therefore, they have a shortage of doctors, which leads to long wait times for care, etc.

If the U.S. didn't pay doctors so well, there'd be more doctors willing to stay and work in Canada or Europe for less money.

*shrug*

Shouldn't be too big a problem with all those hoseurs clogging the bridges on their way down to the US clinics.

re: #108 3 wood

Cause interest rates are higher in the EU due to the gobal economy, so if we would only "fix" the global economy their interest rates could drop.

Crazy, I know, but that's what I heard.

High interest rates DROP housing prices......and I would argue that the overall cost remains the same because any given homeowner has $x.xx to spend.....some will go to interest and some to the price of the house.

What is most interesting to me is the U.S.'s desire to be "just like the rest of the world" instead of what we have always wanted to be: "better than the rest of the world."

Where we used to strive to excel past the "old Europe" and prided ourselves on our uniqueness, and thus greatness, we now beg to be just like everyone else without taking into consideration if that makes us better or worse.

I guess in today's socialist, liberal "morality", thinking oneself superior is arrogant, striving to be the best is insensitive to those who can't keep up.

I was thinking we had increased all their housing costs by using up the good siding and windows or something, and driving up the cost.

re: #114 WrathofG-d

What is most interesting to me is the U.S.'s desire to be "just like the rest of the world" instead of what we have always wanted to be: "better than the rest of the world."

Where we used to strive to excel past the "old Europe" and prided ourselves on our uniqueness, and thus greatness, we now beg to be just like everyone else without taking into consideration if that makes us better or worse.

I guess in today's socialist, liberal "morality", thinking oneself superior is arrogant, striving to be the best is insensitive to those who can't keep up.

dinged you up for that one!

I always wondered why we would want to model ourselves after much less successful systems....but the Europhiles don't see it that way.

Just to clarify... anyone who sits out this election will be counted as a defacto Obama voter.

re: #108 3 wood

Cause interest rates are higher in the EU due to the gobal economy, so if we would only "fix" the global economy their interest rates could drop.

Crazy, I know, but that's what I heard.

It's a vicious cycle. If they lowered their interest rates, then the dollar would rise and oil would fall (further).

re: #27 Desert Dog

We are uncultured, uninformed, naive dolts in their eyes. Obama is a perfect match for them.....he should move there and run for President of the E.U.

The irony is, he wouldn't be able to run for Presidency of the EU becuae he's a foreigner. Eurpoeans don't like foreigners, even one's who have been living there for years. And never mind about the color of his skin.

re: #113 eschew_obfuscation

High interest rates DROP housing prices......and I would argue that the overall cost remains the same because any given homeowner has $x.xx to spend.....some will go to interest and some to the price of the house.

O.K.....maybe the math on the accumulated interest won't support that, but these are not people who will pay off mortgages anyway, I suspect.

re: #106 3 wood

We pay too much for doctors in the US and so the supply is too low in Europe

Interesting, some time back I was accosted by my Euro (French) neiahbors. This was back in the good old days when I would smoke on the drive way & my dog kept me company.
Anyway they got all up in my face about how the French medical system was superior. As an example he pointed out that he had a house call in a Paris hotel for just $75. IO pointed out that it was subsidized by the socialized medical system. Never mid!
She pointed out that French doctors only made $75,000 per year.
I pointed to my dog & said, I would not let a vet touch her that did not make more than that. At that point the woman strormed away.

As long as you Americans keep rescuing us from the wars we peace-loving Europeans start (against each other), financing our reconstructions, protecting us from terrorism, evil empires etc, we'll take you for granted and expect you to do our dirty work for us. Then complain about manners....
To be frank, I don't see why you lose time trying to understand us. Not because it is difficult - it is useless.

re: #108 3 wood

Cause interest rates are higher in the EU due to the gobal economy, so if we would only "fix" the global economy their interest rates could drop.

Crazy, I know, but that's what I heard.

Fix the global economy how? Give away even more money from U.S. taxpayers to subsidize the Euro-peons? Yeah, right.

re: #113 eschew_obfuscation

High interest rates DROP housing prices......and I would argue that the overall cost remains the same because any given homeowner has $x.xx to spend.....some will go to interest and some to the price of the house.

I agree. The point is that the US has become a one size fits all whipping boy for any negative for some in the EU.

The news broadcasts were incredibly anti-US. If the wind blew hard it was somehow our fault.

re: #99 Pyrocles

So... if paying top price for something is "stealing",
...but forcing people to work for less than they could freely get elsewhere is... what?

re: #124 3 wood

I agree. The point is that the US has become a one size fits all whipping boy for any negative for some in the EU.

The news broadcasts were incredibly anti-US. If the wind blew hard it was somehow our fault.

Must be just another case of socialist-inspired victimhood mentality.....heaven knows we have enough of that here at home.

re: #124 3 wood

If the wind blew hard it was somehow our fault.

Well, we do have a lot of politicians that can't seem to shut up.

There can't be a hurricane named "Sheila" because Rep. Jackson-Lee already has sustained gusts. ;)

re: #125 Kenneth

So... if paying top price for something is "stealing",
...but forcing people to work for less than they could freely get elsewhere is... what?

Peonage

they like him because he looks stylish and seems presidential on the surface.
a dignified classy man cutting a fine figure in his suit who speaks eloquently.

interesting,
what i see, is a skinny goof ball jibber jabbering wind bag, stalking around like an arrogant but self-conscious fool.

re: #125 Kenneth

So... if paying top price for something is "stealing",
...but forcing people to work for less than they could freely get elsewhere is... what?

I've never had a Canadian or European doctor...every other doctor around here is Indian or Pakistani it seems.

If anyone should be mad at me for stealing doctors, it's those folks.

re: #123 FurryOldGuyJeans

Fix the global economy how? Give away even more money from U.S. taxpayers to subsidize the Euro-peons? Yeah, right.

Well, there was a perception by some that the US has some big magic wand we can waive and solve all problems around the world. There was also the perception that the President is a dictator who can waive that magic wand at will.

Therefore the logic went, since Bush is President and does nto waive tha magic wand, he is stupid/incompetant/evil.

That is a bit of an oversimplification, but pretty much what I ran into over there.

re: #131 3 wood

Well, there was a perception by some that the US has some big magic wand we can waive and solve all problems around the world. There was also the perception that the President is a dictator who can waive that magic wand at will.

Therefore the logic went, since Bush is President and does nto waive tha magic wand, he is stupid/incompetant/evil.

That is a bit of an oversimplification, but pretty much what I ran into over there.

Sounds like a natural result of nanny-statism.

A bunch of petulant kids waiting for Mommy or Daddy to come home and set things right.

re: #126 eschew_obfuscation

Must be just another case of socialist-inspired victimhood mentality.....heaven knows we have enough of that here at home.

Also caused, I believe, by a clear lack of grasping basic economics brought on by generations of socialism.

re: #133 buzzsawmonkey

Very analagous to those Jews who want to be "just like everyone else"--who spend their lives trying to shed the stigma of being Jews, to no effect, and merely succeed not only in despising themselves, but in encouraging others to despise them for their self-hatred.

And it didn't prevent Hitler from sending them to the concentration camps, along with the religious.

re: #131 3 wood

Well, there was a perception by some that the US has some big magic wand we can waive and solve all problems around the world. There was also the perception that the President is a dictator who can waive that magic wand at will.

Therefore the logic went, since Bush is President and does nto waive tha magic wand, he is stupid/incompetant/evil.

That is a bit of an oversimplification, but pretty much what I ran into over there.

I know the attitude all too well. Still am mystified how supposedly sane people can be so foolish.

re: #132 OldLineTexan

Sounds like a natural result of nanny-statism.

A bunch of petulant kids waiting for Mommy or Daddy to come home and set things right.

An immigrant from Taiwan, an otherwise beautiful soul who we all love, told us one day that it was well and good to see your leader as a father, to take care of you. And that was the "problem" with the US; we didn't respect the office enough.

Yeah, that dern self-sufficiency and stupid idea we have that We The People are in charge.

re: #132 OldLineTexan

A bunch of petulant kids waiting for Mommy or Daddy to come home and set things right.

That was about it. After 3 weeks of that crap I'd had my fill.

And it will be a very long time before I spend my hard earned money to go back there, either.

re: #134 3 wood

Also caused, I believe, by a clear lack of grasping basic economics brought on by generations of socialism.

I've said before that I think economics should be required at the high school level here. A basic understanding is critical to good judgement when voting.

re: #116 eschew_obfuscation

I'm not sure it is by mistake. I watched this very interesting video from an ex KGB officer who was explaining how the weakness of America today is simply the result of KGB propaganda and activities during the Cold War.

re: #136 FurryOldGuyJeans

I know the attitude all too well. Still am mystified how supposedly sane people can be so foolish.

Remember Obomonomics:

1. If you want more oil - tax oil
2. If you want more productivity - tax productivity
3. If you want more capital investment - tax capital investment

And the golden rule: The only good monopoly is one run by the govt.

re: #139 eschew_obfuscation

I've said before that I think economics should be required at the high school level here. A basic understanding is critical to good judgement when voting.

A truly basic course that taught fundamental economic truths would probably fall under criticism for being politically partisan.

re: #133 buzzsawmonkey

Great minds. In fact, when I began to write that post I was thinking of this correlation between the Jews and Americans, and how both (despite their successes) are trying to downplay what has worked for them in the past and instead accept the failed actions of the majority. For Americans that would be to Europeanize and for Jews that would be to assimilate.

Both need to realize that sometimes being different is better.

re: #142 Silhouette

A truly basic course that taught fundamental economic truths would probably fall under criticism for being politically partisan.

Especially if you mentiion Arthur Laffer!

re: #137 Silhouette

An immigrant from Taiwan, an otherwise beautiful soul who we all love, told us one day that it was well and good to see your leader as a father, to take care of you. And that was the "problem" with the US; we didn't respect the office enough.

Yeah, that dern self-sufficiency and stupid idea we have that We The People are in charge.

The patron problem is one of South/Central America's weaknesses. A lot of people are culturally inclined to want a chief/elder/priest to make the big decisions, protect the little people, and reap the rewards.

re: #140 WrathofG-d

I'm not sure it is by mistake. I watched this very interesting video from an ex KGB officer who was explaining how the weakness of America today is simply the result of KGB propaganda and activities during the Cold War.

A simple statement like "what you tax, you get less of, and what you subsidize, you get more of" would be a hate crime.

re: #139 eschew_obfuscation

I've said before that I think economics should be required at the high school level here. A basic understanding is critical to good judgement when voting.

One of my motivations for blogging at LGF and elsewhere is to try in my own limited way to help educate the public in some way by what I write, just casue I believe the same thing you mention.

re: #139 eschew_obfuscation

I've said before that I think economics should be required at the high school level here. A basic understanding is critical to good judgement when voting.

It would be taught by the same socialists who teach history using Zinn's "textbooks".

re: #139 eschew_obfuscation

I've said before that I think economics should be required at the high school level here. A basic understanding is critical to good judgement when voting.

I understand the sentiment, but I would question the value of teaching high school kids economics. If the subject is taught wrongly, it seems to backfire. There are too many college educated economists who don't seem to understand basic supply and demand.

I'd rather the high schools actually taught English composition and higher levels of math....oh and a foreign language so I'm not embarrased to be an American. ;-)

re: #149 Kosh's Shadow

It would be taught by the same socialists who teach history using Zinn's "textbooks".

Nice.....pop my utopian balloon......I see how you are ;-)

re: #151 buzzsawmonkey

why no picture avatar for you buzz?

re: #150 DeafDog

There are too many college educated economists who don't seem to understand basic supply and demand.

That's cause their socialists/comminists at heart. My lead faculty member at another university I used to teach at was such a socialist/communist that I used to joke with him that he needed to look to the right to see Joe Stalin. He did not disagree.

Obama’s tax code, support of big government programs and redistribution of income, and subservience to UN directives delight the European masses

WRONG.

The ‘European masses’ don’t have a clue about Obama’s proposals. They don’t have a clue about what their own EU masters proposals are other than in a general sense it ascribes to them a vague moral superiority. Stop anyone on the street in any EU country and ask them what the REACH directive is – they won’t be able to tell you. The fact that it could destroy agriculture over the next 2 decades is absolutely invisible to them.

Europeans feel especially progressive—and therefore need not worry that no one of African ancestry would ever become a European Prime- or Foreign-Minister.

Correct. Sarko with his Hungarian/Jewish roots assuage all the guilt they need to be assuaged.

But with Obama, they believe the US will subject its enormous military strength to international organizations—usually run by utopian Europeans

It’s not that simple. Sarkozy wants a seat for France at NATO. Germany gags on this, given the French adventure in Chad, etc. The ‘masses’ dream of neutering the U.S. military strength, not subjecting it to their control.

Style, style, style.

Agreed. They can swoon over Carla Bruno, who had an affair with her child’s father’s son, but hey – she can wear clothes.

There is a certain European “We told you so” that comes with his election

Yes, there is. And if McCain is elected, the streets of Berlin and Paris will not be safe for anyone with a U.S. passport.

The bottom line is about a Big Swinging Dick Contest. As long as we elect Obama, the EUnichs don’t have to concern themselves with their lack of testicular fortitude. As long as we remain the America of W, they live in constant shame.

re: #114 WrathofG-d

Recently a group of islamists told the Europeeon's "Why would muslims want to assimilate into an inferior culture."

They do have a point there.

re: #146 WrathofG-d

The 45 goals of the communist party for takeover of the US. From 1963. I post it all because each and every one is happening. #22 and #23 struck me the most. Why ugly, meaningless art? Because art gives you a sense of pride in your culture. Meaningless blobs don't do that.

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

...
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

...
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

...
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

re: #141 DeafDog

Remember Obomonomics:

1. If you want more oil - tax oil
2. If you want more productivity - tax productivity
3. If you want more capital investment - tax capital investment

And the golden rule: The only good monopoly is one run by the govt.

Remember Voodoo Economics (also called Reaganomics or Supply Side Economics)? Bush 41 was even less cognizant of economics than McCain is. At least McCain has the humility to say he is not well-versed on economics.

re: #133 buzzsawmonkey

that comment caused me a moment of extreme sadness, but i believe your point is valid

having a problem sending. sorry for messing up the comments section

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

here

or here

re: #150 DeafDog

I understand the sentiment, but I would question the value of teaching high school kids economics. If the subject is taught wrongly, it seems to backfire. There are too many college educated economists who don't seem to understand basic supply and demand.

I'd rather the high schools actually taught English composition and higher levels of math....oh and a foreign language so I'm not embarrased to be an American. ;-)

Why does being mono-lingual 'embarrass' you? Are you applying European standards to yourself? Another language is only useful if you go somewhere where it's used.

I know a bit of Spanish and I'd gladly learn more, but I'm somewhere where it is needed so rarely that it's practically useless and I lose my fluency as a result.

Besides, the only reason Europeans are multi-lingual is that they live in a place where a 60-mile drive will land them in another country.....all most U.S. states speak English.

Goals of communist takeover of the US, cont.

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

Barack Obama: Prepared. Prepuced.

re: #154 3 wood

College faculties are a whole different breed. I'm talking about just regular folks who think taxing oil is a good idea. That would be another cost, I explain, and would reduce output and increase your cost. College educated folks who show all the outword signs of intellegence....they just don't get it.

re: #164 eschew_obfuscation

I was making a sarcastic quip their about BHO's embarassment.

re: #140 WrathofG-d

This was an old video, but it is so true. Just visit any Western universty or media company and you will meet the people this man is talking about.

re: #169 DeafDog

I was making a sarcastic quip their about BHO's embarassment.

Now cut that out! I just wore out my typing finger.

re: #159 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have a soft side for GHWB (aka #41). The vodoo economics line was mostly political speech. He did have a point, however, in terms of reigning in deficit spending (which was out of control during the Carter years and wasn't great during the reagan years, either).

re: #158 Silhouette

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

Oil, to the leftist, is only for greed, and for evil activities like driving around in SUVs going to fast food restaurants.

But take the loaf of bread, symbolically the symbol of food, life, and civilization. It takes energy to till the ground, grind the grain, carry the flour to the bakery, and bake the bread. Energy is not a selfish luxury. We need energy.

/partially plagerized from Debunking the Solar Energy Myth

re: #170 Kenneth

I never claimed the video was brand spanking....just that it was correct. A very good reminder to "stay the course" even when the "intellegent" classes tell me I am "soooooo old-fashioned" and "jingoistic".

re: #173 WrathofG-d

Aye.

re: #176 Silhouette

;)

The Europeans love Obama because - once you subtract the science/engineering types out of the mixture - they are even more naive than we Yanks. They've only got their controlled press, TV, and radio...and you know what types of folks go into that line of work... not exactly the top of the creativity stack. Imagine only getting your news from Dan Rather clones... shudder.

re: #178 Da Coyote

The Europeans love Obama because - once you subtract the science/engineering types out of the mixture - they are even more naive than we Yanks. They've only got their controlled press, TV, and radio...and you know what types of folks go into that line of work... not exactly the top of the creativity stack. Imagine only getting your news from Dan Rather clones... shudder.

Yep. I view 'em as dumber than us.
Dumb and dumber.

re: #178 Da Coyote

What's more, no matter the leanings of the staff, the key word is that the media is controlled.

I'm always amazed at the mental gymnastics necessary for Americans to think that the news from NPR or PBS, controlled by the state, are somehow more "of the people" than free publicly owned media.

re: #180 Silhouette

What always amazes me is that people believe that the European news is less biased simply because its not American. (as if the Europeans don't have their own "message" or biases, to get out)

re: #180 Silhouette

What's more, no matter the leanings of the staff, the key word is that the media is controlled.

I'm always amazed at the mental gymnastics necessary for Americans to think that the news from NPR or PBS, controlled by the state, are somehow more "of the people" than free publicly owned media.

Those people are most likely on the left end of the political spectrum......they hate corporations, so any privately-owned media are 'evil' and untrustworthy......and government is the solution to every problem, so NPR/PBS are trustworthy.

Eurabians like him becuz he is like them

Turning the argument on its head, there are always about 30% of Euros that seem to be thinking individuals. For example, when Iraq was at its nadir, and we were hearing stories from Europe that they thought the USA was evil, there were still 25-30% of the Euros who supported the USA. And in the middle of that depression, France elected Sarkozy and Germany elected Merkel (the pro USA candidates). Finally, I visited Italy during that period and was treated great.

Anyway, I guess my point is that the Euros aren't as uniform in their thinking as the MSM would have you believe. Lots of fair minded Euros still see the USA as the place to be.

re: #158 Silhouette

The 45 goals of the communist party for takeover of the US. From 1963. I post it all because each and every one is happening. #22 and #23 struck me the most. Why ugly, meaningless art? Because art gives you a sense of pride in your culture. Meaningless blobs don't do that.

And how does this platform differ from the Democratic Party platform?

Besides being a fellow socialist and also resenting the United States, Obama appeals to Europeans because he shares their mushy multicultural, post colonial one world-ism. Too, many Europeans perceive that an Obama presidency would result in a weakened United States---and Europe could step into the power vacuum.

I am a 100% European and I do not support nor like Obama.
Don't generalise all Europeans, stupid Americans.

re: #164 eschew_obfuscation

Besides, the only reason Europeans are multi-lingual is that they live in a place where a 60-mile drive will land them in another country.....all most U.S. states speak English.

For the time being.

re: #185 Kosh's Shadow

And how does this platform differ from the Democratic Party platform?

See #15

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

Voila.

re: #187 Forever

Don't generalise all Europeans, stupid Americans.

If that was a joke abot generalization, that was funny.

# 187 Forever

It is true that one shouldn't generalise, Forever, but it is also true that the most vocal among us Europeans are often the most deranged. Think of the appalling things one hears at the European Parliament, where they even find the time to legislate over the curve of zucchini....

Can't totally bash Europeans.
the ideal world might include
German cars
French chefs
British police
Italian Government

re: #133 buzzsawmonkey

Very analagous to those Jews who want to be "just like everyone else"--who spend their lives trying to shed the stigma of being Jews, to no effect, and merely succeed not only in despising themselves, but in encouraging others to despise them for their self-hatred.

Buzz, you do a grave disservice to America by seeking to conflate the alleged Europeanization of America with the assimilation of Jews into the larger American society. The ironic subtext of your comment belies more than a little contempt for the segment of the American Jewish population who are allegedly preoccupied by self-hatred and unsuccessful attempts to be assimilated. That sentiment is to me understandable in any Jew who worries about the survival of the Jewish nation. But the part of your comment that I found vicious and beyond the pale is your assignment of blame to assimilating Jews for anti-Semitic feelings directed at them by "others" (and I assume by "others" you mean non-Jews and not fellow Jews).
Both the Orthodox and Conservative Jewish establishments continue to view assimilation as the greatest threat to the survival of the Jewish community. That being the case, your claim that their efforts to assimilate are "to no effect" cannot be accurate. In reality I believe there are great numbers of North American Jews who have and continue to be successfully assimilated through intermarriage and lack of observance. And until (cholilah v'chas) the next holocaust arrives, I expect that assimilation will continue to decimate the Jewish population on this side of the pond.
As for the alleged Jewish self-hatred of which you speak, I do not accept that it is by any means the sole or even a major reason for assimilation - on the contrary I expect that most Jews who assimilate in America do so not because they love themselves less, but rather because they love the greater American society more.

on the other hand-
German Cops
French cars
British chefs
Italian government
would really suck

re: #192 Capitalist Tool

Can't totally bash Europeans.
the ideal world might include
German cars
French chefs
British police
Italian Government

Englishman's definition of Hell:
German Police
Swedish Comedians
Italian Government
Dutch Language

#192 Capitalist Tool

Are you serious?

The current Italian government, for all its faults, is basically all right on fundamentals (also pro-US), but the previous one was a disaster..... Actually a disaster is an understatement.

re: #187 Forever

thank you for supporting my post #184, you stupid European.

re: #196 Dolce

#192 Capitalist Tool

Are you serious?

The current Italian government, for all its faults, is basically all right on fundamentals (also pro-US), but the previous one was a disaster..... Actually a disaster is an understatement.

I believe that is why he listed Italian Government in both lists. ;)

re: #196 Dolce

#192 Capitalist Tool

Are you serious?

The current Italian government, for all its faults, is basically all right on fundamentals (also pro-US), but the previous one was a disaster..... Actually a disaster is an understatement.

The joke part is that most of the time the Italians don't even have a government.
they seem to do just fine without one, so keep it up, I say.

re: #198 FurryOldGuyJeans

I believe that is why he listed Italian Government in both lists. ;)

You are correct.

ALL PRAISE TO THE OBAMESSIAH! We are blessed by his shadow falling on us. We are fortunate to breathe the same air he has breathed. We are..

ok, I can't say anything more. It's making me sick.

re: #190 Silhouette

If that was a joke abot generalization, that was funny.

It was indeed. Now please vote for McCain Americans, although he is also not what I would want to see in power, but there are not many other realistic options, are there.

re: #200 Capitalist Tool

You are correct.

Oh wow, this stupid American got something concerning Europeon correct! ;)

Obama Discusses Economy With Paulson and Bernanke

Some hot little sister at the grill last night was wearing some Obama t-shirt with an absolutely indecipherable message, but somehow was a big racist rant against whitey, as far as i could tell, if i'd only stopped lookin' at her... um, uh, let me uh, think, uh, 'fro, which I didn't realize was now making a cultural comeback.

re: #202 Forever

And by not many other choices, you mean none. McCain was probably my last choice among the GOP hopeful this year (I do not count Ron Paul). But he is all we have now.

I think he's soft on illegal immigration, wrong on global warming, and that McCain-Feingold attacks the very foundation of the 1st amendment, but I also think he's tough on terror, and in the end, an honest man who doesn't change opinions with the wind.

Oh, and he's not an anti-American Marxist.

I see Europe as a sadomasochist-loving monster. Throughout history we have made many many mistakes which resulted in wars, genocides and other disastrous atrocities. And today, it is not going differently. For the better or worse, with a predominantly leftist-msm in Europe now, we are heading towards a time that we will torture ourselves again, this time in matters of over-tolerance towards certain communities and religions and the never-ending guilt that most of us feel for our colonial past.

Please America save us cuz we aint gonna do it ourselves and neither will Obama.

What fascinates me about Italian left-wing intellectuals (who know everything about everything and don't recognize as democracy anything that doesn't coincide with their view of the world) is that they always rhapsodize about "the other America", "true America" - something utopian with Kerry, Gore, Jimmy Carter, Jane Fonda, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Greenpeace, Susan Sarandon and Obama in it. They seem upset that there are obstinate Americans who don't allow this other America to express itself more completely.

re: #208 Forever

look to the east, not far-

re: #207 Silhouette

Exactly!
Well, that is way McCain is the only way out, imho. And in 4 years you will have another chance. Lets hope either of the two wont make too much damage.

re: #211 Forever

Exactly!
Well, that is way McCain is the only way out, imho. And in 4 years you will have another chance. Lets hope either of the two wont make too much damage.

* * *
McCain's 96 year old mother has been in Italy so many times she knows all your cultural icons by heart. She can tell when they move a picture at the Uffizzi Gallery from one year to the next.

McCain's knowledge of Europe (and its history) is deep and decades-long, not recently acquired on a fly-by globetrotting tour de hype.

re: #205 buzzsawmonkey

I have seen Jews attempt to slough their Jewish background in the hope of currying favor with non-Jews they consider "higher class." It does not gain them anything other than the threshold acceptance which is normally granted the sycophant, which can be and is withdrawn as soon as the sycophant ceases to be useful.

I do not dispute your anecdotal observations. But these in my view represent a small percentage of the total number of assimilating Jews. The very real and worrisome threat posed by assimilation to Jewish survival should not be an excuse to over-generalize and mischaracterize the problem, if for no other reason than it is bound to make a solution that much more elusive.

#142 Silhouette

re: #139 eschew_obfuscation

I've said before that I think economics should be required at the high school level here. A basic understanding is critical to good judgement when voting.

A truly basic course that taught fundamental economic truths would probably fall under criticism for being politically partisan.

Brilliantly said. Over the last few decades, truth has been slowly frogmarched before the leftist firing squad. Truth is conveniently partisan when it suits the left, but is for the most part considered conservative and right-wing, while lies, obfuscation, and deception are embraced as progressive, tolerant and open-minded. When exposing the weaknesses of Obama, simply use his own quotes against him, and there will be an immediate backlash of hatred, name-calling and race-baiting.

Voila' - truth has been successfully marginalized.

I'm european and I hate Obama...

Not all europeans fall for the sing of the mermaid Obama.....

re: #204 FurryOldGuyJeans

Obama Discusses Economy With Paulson and Bernanke

I'm sure they learned a lot.

An appeal to the great lizard community: Please someone post a link to glenn beck dot com (I can't get it going on my PC right now). There is a hilarious picture of Obama as the Shepherd that you won't want to miss!

Thanks.

re: #114 WrathofG-d

What is most interesting to me is the U.S.'s desire to be "just like the rest of the world" instead of what we have always wanted to be: "better than the rest of the world."

Where we used to strive to excel past the "old Europe" and prided ourselves on our uniqueness, and thus greatness, we now beg to be just like everyone else without taking into consideration if that makes us better or worse.

I guess in today's socialist, liberal "morality", thinking oneself superior is arrogant, striving to be the best is insensitive to those who can't keep up.

Exactly, that's why soccer is becoming so popular amongst upper class white children; a draw is a commendable outcome in soccer. How terrible it would be if little Preston or Blake had to go through the agony of defeat at such a young age! Nevermind the thrill of victory of course, as witnessed by the left's, understatement alert, unenthusiastic attitude toward the Surge's success.

re: #28 opnion

re: #28 opnion

Some people never learn. Western Europe is in decline, Easter Europe is on the rise. They seem to get it.

In the words of Steven Tyler..."The rabbit done died".

Snotty-nosed Euro-trash wanna make me throw up.

Let's not forgot that these are the countries a lot of our ancestors left for a reason and most likely their ancestors were the one's standing on the docks laughing at our ancestors on the ships and saying things like "the ship is gonna sink" or "your ship is gonna fall off the end of the earth" or "you'll never make anything of yourself" etc. Most of us came from poor immigrant families that had almost nothing when they landed in the new world and now America is the richest and most powerful country on the face of the earth in just a few hundred years. I don't give a rats ass what the Europeans think because my ancestors didn't either and left that god-forsaken continent 200 years ago - for better or worse. Europeans and a multitude of other countries have always underestimated the USA.

I contend that they hate us because they have always hated us - even when we were in their midst.

a draw is a commendable outcome in soccer.

LOL..... You don't know shit about European football, if you believe that mate :)

SOME Europeans like Obama, I happen to be one that doesn't. This Euro bashing on LGF has to stop! I see the usual stupid rhetoric being pandered on this thread. Maybe Americans should save their rhetoric for the 50%+ of their fellow citizens who like Obama as well? The election will be decided in America, not Europe.

re: #28 opnion

Some people never learn. Western Europe is in decline, Easter Europe is on the rise. They seem to get it.

Really? I live in Western Europe and don't get that impression at all. Are you one of those American "liberals" who likes to talk down your own country as well?

re: #158 Silhouette

The 45 goals of the communist party for takeover of the US. From 1963. I post it all because each and every one is happening. #22 and #23 struck me the most. Why ugly, meaningless art? Because art gives you a sense of pride in your culture. Meaningless blobs don't do that.

Link?!