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Overnight Open Thread

Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:07:20 pm PDT

During our lives we’re faced with so many elements as well, we experience so many setbacks, and fight such a hand-to-hand battle with failure, head down in the rain, just trying to stay upright and have a little hope.

Lance Armstrong

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1 brainwizard73  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:09:12pm

Inspiration meter: Armstrong 10, Obama 2.

2 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:10:37pm

I'm a fan of Armstrong!

3 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:11:01pm

A good quote from a real fighter, and winner. Shame he retired from racing.

4 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:11:49pm

I wonder if Jerry Lewis hoped no one would check his luggage.

Hey lady!

5 brainwizard73  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:12:26pm

Here is a thought that will never happen:

McCain/Armstrong '08

Two bad-ass cancer survivors that will inspire America to be great again and quit navel gazing!

6 DocDublU  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:14:37pm

i love it that lance stuck it to the frogs and owned their bike race for 7 consecutive years. they tested him like a lab rat and never found a spec of any illegal substances. they jobbed levi leipheimer just to punk lance...you don't take testoserone the night before a big race, as they accused and convicted levi of. that's a long term endurance enhancer. you take EPO the night before a big race, which was never detected in levi's blood. his ride up alp de huez was epic but now it's lost forever.

7 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:15:53pm

re: #5 brainwizard73

They'd get my vote!

8 rawmuse  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:15:56pm

Lizard meet up in San Francisco this Friday, 5pm until 7. Email me for details.

9 mfarmer1  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:15:57pm

Uh oh...the dreaded condoms of blasphemy:

Mohammed Brand Condoms

10 tommygum  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:16:02pm

IIRC Jerry Lewis was the fastest draw in Hollywood and could do all the twirling tricks.

11 DocDublU  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:16:41pm

oops.. make that floyd landis. my bad

12 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:18:05pm

re: #9 mfarmer1

Uh oh...the dreaded condoms of blasphemy:

Mohammed Brand Condoms

ROFLMAO!

13 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:19:36pm
14 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:23:01pm

Muslim faith schools cause segregation, say teachers

Hell will freeze over before Muslim schools give children a liberal education, teachers were told today.

Faith schools threaten to cause religious segregation and must not be expanded, said Wesley Paxton from teachers' union Voice.

He suggested divisions like those seen in Northern Ireland between Protestant and Catholic communities could arise in England if more Islamic groups take over schools.

His remarks follow government moves to give religious groups a greater role in education through an expansion of academies and an offer of state funding for private Muslim schools.

/someone in Britain gets it

15 ladycatnip  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:24:01pm

WSJ has a piece on Obama and Pelosi's War of the Worlds

War of the Worlds
On Friday we noted some bizarre language in Barack Obama's Berlin speech: He kept addressing his audience as "People of the world," and he said, "This is the moment when we must come together to save this planet." Now Nancy Pelosi is getting into the sci-fi act. Politico reports the House speaker is citing threats from space in explaining why giving the Republican minority short shrift in legislative debates:

With fewer than 20 legislative days before the new fiscal year begins Oct. 1, the entire appropriations process has largely ground to a halt because of the ham-handed fighting that followed Republican attempts to lift the moratorium on offshore oil and gas exploration. And after promising fairness and open debate, Pelosi has resorted to hard-nosed parliamentary devices that effectively bar any chance for Republicans to offer policy alternatives.

"I'm trying to save the planet; I'm trying to save the planet," she says impatiently when questioned. "I will not have this debate trivialized by their excuse for their failed policy."

Today's New York Times, meanwhile, carries an op-ed by one Nick Pope arguing that America should take unidentified flying objects more seriously:

The United States is no less vulnerable than Britain and France to threats to security and air safety. The United States Air Force or the National Aeronautics and Space Administration should reopen investigations of U.F.O. phenomena. It would not imply that the country has suddenly started believing in little green men. It would simply recognize the possibility that radar alone cannot always tell us what's out there.

What can we say but Klaatu barada Nick Pope? It occurs to us, though, that maybe all this otherworldly talk is a diversion. Could it be that Barack Obama is secretly Martian? He does seem awfully green . . .

Coming to a theater near you: Obama and Pelosi as Pinky and The Brain.

16 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:24:33pm

Soros summit to mastermind profits of doom

With the City abuzz with rumours that billionaire speculator George Soros is staking a massive fortune the FTSE will plummet further, nerves will hardly be calmed by news of a recent family Soros gathering in Portugal.

According to my spy, plans were hatched with the entire Soros family present on how best to profit from the cooling off of the world economy. George Soros's nephew Peter (pictured, right) is said to be overseeing the London side of the family operation.

/he broke the Bank of England and now he's going to bear raid the global economy

17 realwest  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:25:33pm

Well I have to say that Lance Armstrong is truly an example of someone who never quit, never gave in to his fears about the cancer and in so doing inspired all of us.

The fact that he beat the FRENCH on their home turf, in their own tournament, SEVEN times in a row, really is just icing on the cake and no, I'm not joking about that. He inspires all who are afflicted with cancer - all sorts of cancers - and for that he should always hold a place of honor and esteem in the hearts of all Americans and indeed all people throughout the world.

18 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:25:47pm

Obama's Global Tax

A plan by Barack Obama to redistribute American wealth on a global level is moving forward in the Senate. It follows Marxist theology — from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

/read the whole thing, you're about to start paying for it

19 realwest  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:26:08pm

re: #13 MandyManners
Good night Mandy!

20 winston06  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:28:53pm

have a great night every body

21 Opilio  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:29:46pm

re: #1 brainwizard73

Inspiration meter: Armstrong 10, Obama 2.

2 ? How'd he get all the way up to 2?

22 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:31:03pm

maybe it's just me, but the quote reads funny, like something is missing.

(i'm not all that inspired by inspirational quotes anyway..... %-)

23 zombie  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:31:08pm
and fight such a hand-to-hand battle with failure

It's not much of a fight: Failure wins almost every time. Only someone like Lance can feel it's an even struggle.

Human race: FAIL.

24 realwest  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:31:25pm

Well all y'all, it's been grand as usual, but I have to try to get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

25 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:31:29pm

re: #21 Opilio

2 ? How'd he get all the way up to 2?

minority preference points

26 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:31:32pm
During our lives we’re faced with so many elements

Currently numbering 117.

My favorite is Lutetium because it has almost no practical uses.

Lutetium

27 BignJames  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:31:46pm

re: #18 Killian Bundy


If you posted that to piss me off.....it worked.

28 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:32:32pm

re: #23 zombie

"The only way to fail is to quit"

—Rutan, of aircraft fame

29 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:33:08pm

re: #24 realwest

Buona notte

30 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:36:20pm

The world wide lizard army is almost all asleep or in the shower.

31 tommygum  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:37:03pm

re: #9 mfarmer1

Uh oh...the dreaded condoms of blasphemy:

Mohammed Brand Condoms

The comments after were hilarious.

32 UncleSam  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:37:16pm

re: #15 ladycatnip

I think she meant she was saving the planet from global hoaxing, ehhhrr, I mean, warming.

She's an arrogant, ignorant, egomaniacal scientifically illiterate extremely wealthy socialist who wants to run every minute of our lives, because, well, she's just so much better than us.

33 zombie  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:38:06pm

re: #18 Killian Bundy

Obama's Global Tax

/read the whole thing, you're about to start paying for it

We already spend so much of our money propping up and helping the rest of the world:

- Our taxpayer funded military budget keeps the ENTIRE WORLD safe from wrongdoers and bad ideologies.

- Our taxes (needlessly) do most of the funding of the United Nations.

- The US government sends foreign aid overseas in massive quantities every year.

- Our government funds AIDS research, poverty programs, nutrition programs and more all over the world.

- Our private citizens donate billions to help people in poor countries.

- Etc.

But to Obama, that's not enough. He wants to take more of your taxes and hand it away to foreign countries, as a sort of "guilt-reducing bribe" due to our oppressive success.

34 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:39:18pm

re: #28 Ojoe

Dick Rutan

35 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:41:38pm

re: #33 zombie

Obama Bozo

Prosperity comes from good behavior, if you want to help others teach them ethics

small packages of Macaroni & cheese in the meanwhile are OK

How culturally insensitive of me

36 UncleSam  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:41:56pm

re: #33 zombie

Hey, socialists are all about stealing other people's money and property to make themselves feel superior.
But it's "for the common good."
And they always manage to siphon off a whole lot for themselves.
Funny how that works.

37 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:43:53pm

All lizards sleepeth

38 UncleSam  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:45:46pm

Ojoe: I don't sleepeth! I am eternally vigila.....zzzzzzzz... snore......

39 zombie  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:47:03pm

re: #37 Ojoe

All lizards sleepeth

Not me! I have penises to edit.

40 tommygum  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:47:04pm

G'night.

41 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:47:57pm
42 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:48:16pm

Obozama

Aba Zaba

Aba Obomo

Harack Basain Osannna

Hack Brain Obanana

43 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:48:27pm

re: #39 zombie

Not me! I have penises to edit.

didn't know you had a Body Modification shop........

44 UncleSam  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:49:43pm

re: #39 zombie

Not me! I have penises to edit.

Of course.
You've got the San Francisco Dream Job.

45 Racer X  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:49:59pm
46 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:50:31pm

re: #39 zombie

& with cloth an ancient invention & sunburn an affliction you would think common sense would be universal; but it is not.

47 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:56:20pm

re: #45 Racer X

Wow, I think my vision is 36, 24, 36!

48 zombie  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:56:37pm

re: #43 redc1c4

didn't know you had a Body Modification shop........

I don't, but someone does: The photo I'm looking at right now is of a guy who has multi-colored jewels attached to about 20 different penile piercings: his ding-dong looks like a debutant's tiara.

49 cutestguy[deleted]  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:58:44pm
50 Adrenalyn  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:59:12pm

re: #33 zombie

We already spend so much of our money propping up and helping the rest of the world:

- Our taxpayer funded military budget keeps the ENTIRE WORLD safe from wrongdoers and bad ideologies.

- Our taxes (needlessly) do most of the funding of the United Nations.

- The US government sends foreign aid overseas in massive quantities every year.

- Our government funds AIDS research, poverty programs, nutrition programs and more all over the world.

- Our private citizens donate billions to help people in poor countries.

- Etc.

But to Obama, that's not enough. He wants to take more of your taxes and hand it away to foreign countries, as a sort of "guilt-reducing bribe" due to our oppressive success.


don't look now but today the House passed a resolution apologizing for slavery and Jim Crow laws

if MoBama gets to the White House
and the democrats keep their rule in the House/Senate
look out for massive reparations

but this may be good if McCain can use it as a warning to vote for him (or against Bozobama) or else

/shaking head, just knowing he won't though

51 UncleSam  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 10:59:58pm

In my day, we had to wade through alligators up to our necks and then battle The Legions of The Undead to edit penises.

Now it can be done from the comfort of your own home..

Feh.....

52 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:01:04pm

re: #48 zombie

Now that's funny.

/nobody is getting close to my stuff with sharp insturments unless his first name is Dr.

53 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:02:21pm

re: #51 UncleSam

Go back to bed grandpa. The younger generation is being vigilant. ;)

54 pat  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:03:19pm

Obama is spending a lot of money. Not buying much. McCain is still trying to be a liberal to the press.

55 UncleSam  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:03:59pm

re: #53 BlueCanuck

Go back to bed grandpa. The younger generation is being vigilant. ;)

And I'm glad for that fact.

56 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:07:04pm

re: #48 zombie

Madness

57 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:07:51pm

re: #48 zombie

I don't, but someone does: The photo I'm looking at right now is of a guy who has multi-colored jewels attached to about 20 different penile piercings: his ding-dong looks like a debutant's tiara.

As Homer Simpson would say: Jebus!

58 Archimedes  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:08:39pm

re: #48 zombie

his ding-dong looks like a debutant's tiara.

That reminds me of a very strange Gunther video I saw about a month ago on youtube. I won't bother linking to it. It's too ridiculous.

59 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:16:01pm

re: #38 UncleSam

LOL

ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

60 zombie  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:17:41pm

re: #56 Ojoe

Madness

And that's far and away the most G-rated picture in the entire folder.

In fact, the whole "flaccid" folder (what I'm editing now -- 154 photos) is pretty PG-rated. Next up: the "erect" folder (63 photos), and after that (four more levels) I can't even describe in public. 41 photos in the "ej@culation" folder alone.

All in all, over 600 pictures to sift through. And I've got to prune that down to 100 at most.

61 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:17:58pm

re: #52 BlueCanuck

Now that's funny.

/nobody is getting close to my stuff with sharp insturments unless his first name is Dr.

and he's a microsurgery specialist...... %-)

/white smoke

62 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:18:54pm

re: #60 zombie

And that's far and away the most G-rated picture in the entire folder.

In fact, the whole "flaccid" folder (what I'm editing now -- 154 photos) is pretty PG-rated. Next up: the "erect" folder (63 photos), and after that (four more levels) I can't even describe in public. 41 photos in the "ej@culation" folder alone.

All in all, over 600 pictures to sift through. And I've got to prune that down to 100 at most.

you mean "trim it down" or "cut it down" don't you?

63 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:19:24pm

re: #60 zombie

Well you are doing us normal folks a service & thank you

But, time to hit the sack

Good Night All.

64 zombie  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:20:52pm

re: #62 redc1c4

I'm using one of those razor-sharp branch-snipping arborist pruning tools to edit the pictures.

65 thelongblogger  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:21:53pm

re: #64 zombie

re: #64 zombie

I'm using one of those razor-sharp branch-snipping arborist pruning tools to edit the pictures.

The kind that are twenty feet long?

66 zombie  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:21:54pm

re: #63 Ojoe

time to hit the sack

You get to hit the sack, while I still have to hit the sac.

67 zombie  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:24:18pm

re: #65 thelongblogger

re: #64 zombie

The kind that are twenty feet long?

Yup.

Of course, when I took some of these pictures, I wasn't more than 20 inches from my subjects. I can't believe some of what I'm seeing. I had my hidden camera on auto-repeat and didn't realize how close I came to some of those puppies.

68 BignJames  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:24:19pm

Celebrate perversity!

69 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:25:52pm

re: #16 Killian Bundy

Soros summit to mastermind profits of doom


/he broke the Bank of England and now he's going to bear raid the global economy

I don't know why somebody hasn't attacked Soros yet. I mean attacked in any way at all - legislatively, or physically, for that matter. He must have an ironclad security detail. He probably has a Fedayeen Soros made up entirely of top-tier Democrats.

The Founding Fathers are reaching high RPM in their tombs over this foreign national socialist bankrolling an ignorant young Romantic to become our next President.

70 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:26:34pm

re: #61 redc1c4

Ouch, you have cut me to the quick.

/luck for you I have a sense of humour.

71 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:27:00pm

re: #64 zombie

The photoshop version of the 10 foot pole.

72 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:30:28pm

re: #48 zombie

I don't, but someone does: The photo I'm looking at right now is of a guy who has multi-colored jewels attached to about 20 different penile piercings: his ding-dong looks like a debutant's tiara.

Spock says, "Fascinating" in a deadpan voice, and raises an eyebrow.

Did it jingle?

/seriously, I bet somebody had bells on their ding-ding-dong, right?

73 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:30:46pm

for those who haven't maxed out on their cringing ability, i have a true story.

a good friend of mine felt a kidney stone start to pass down his urethra.

it was quite painful, but he was hopeful that it's passing would end the medical problems it had been causing......

and then it stopped, just short of the tip: you could see it, but it wasn't going any further.

so Nick, being Nick, pulled it the rest of the way out using a set of tweezers. the stone is now encased in resin, and he wears it around his neck as an amulet. it's about a half inch long, and the diameter of a #2 pencil.

i cringed just typing this.

74 BignJames  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:35:08pm

re: #73 redc1c4

That wasn't a stone....that was a boulder.

75 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:40:57pm

re: #73 redc1c4

Guts, he haz dem.

/what was he a marine?

76 Maximu§  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:44:59pm

So the LA council has banned any new fast food restaurants from being built in poor neighborhoods in South Los Angeles. Traffic, gang wars, children being gunned down, pollution, lousey schools, a bankrupt city, car jackings and an invasion from Mexico and this is what the city council spends their time on?

LA bans fast food in poor areas

77 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:55:00pm

re: #69 Pawn of the Oppressor

I don't know why somebody hasn't attacked Soros yet. I mean attacked in any way at all - legislatively, or physically, for that matter. He must have an ironclad security detail. He probably has a Fedayeen Soros made up entirely of top-tier Democrats.

The Founding Fathers are reaching high RPM in their tombs over this foreign national socialist bankrolling an ignorant young Romantic to become our next President.


I've often wondered about that myself. My guess that those who are really in a position to assasinate him know that he has some sort of economic "bomb" set to engage in the event he was knocked off that would truly sink the Western economy. That needs to be "disarmed" first.

This bastard has to be handled very carefully.

He's a real life Bond villain.

78 cutestguy[deleted]  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:55:17pm
79 Mel Lono  Tue, Jul 29, 2008 11:56:56pm

re: #72 Pawn of the Oppressor

Spock says, "Fascinating" in a deadpan voice, and raises an eyebrow.

Did it jingle?

/seriously, I bet somebody had bells on their ding-ding-dong, right?


I think I just missed something that I'm really glad I just missed.

80 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:03:03am

re: #79 Mel Lono

Talking about zombies latest expedition in SF gay community.

/think the street fair cranked to twelve.

81 zombie  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:04:28am

re: #79 Mel Lono

I think I just missed something that I'm really glad I just missed.

Unfortunately for you, you haven't missed it yet. The report's not coming out for another two days.

I recommend turning off your computer now, and joining a monastery for the next six months until this thing blows over.

82 Archimedes  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:06:29am

re: #72 Pawn of the Oppressor

Spock says, "Fascinating" in a deadpan voice, and raises an eyebrow.

Did it jingle?

/seriously, I bet somebody had bells on their ding-ding-dong, right?


Yeah, that's the Gunther song.

83 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:21:37am

re: #81 zombie

until this thing blows over.

now you've got me really worried

84 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:26:20am
85 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:28:11am

re: #83 Mel Lono

re: #84 cutestguy

What's got me worried was the early statement of zombie dodging bodily fluids. :p

86 cutestguy[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:30:13am
87 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:31:25am

re: #74 BignJames

That wasn't a stone....that was a boulder.

his new doc says he's only seen stones that size removed surgically.....

the old doc couldn't see it on an x-ray, and told him his pains were likely prostate cancer.

88 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:31:57am

re: #75 BlueCanuck

Guts, he haz dem.

/what was he a marine?

yup...... once upon a time.

89 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:32:36am

I think zombies zionist cheque needs an add on to reflect the areas s/he goes into. Hazard pay, danger pay. You name it s/he needs it.

90 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:33:17am

re: #81 zombie

Unfortunately for you, you haven't missed it yet. The report's not coming out for another two days.

I recommend turning off your computer now, and joining a monastery for the next six months until this thing blows over.

heh! he said "blows over"....... hehhehheh

/Cornholio

91 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:33:17am

re: #88 redc1c4

That explains EVERYTHING then.

/crazier than our airborne troops.

92 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:44:53am

re: #91 BlueCanuck

That explains EVERYTHING then.

/crazier than our airborne troops.

he and i met when were both w*rking for a repo company..... %-)

93 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:47:08am

well, i've fixed up the fruitcup for Blue, and since HRH will likely try to drag my ass out of bed early again this morning, not to mention how lively this thread is, i think the rack is calling.

L8r!

94 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:53:01am

re: #93 redc1c4

Night red.

/gives me plenty of time to dispose of the red cups
//lot of work ahead of me tonight.

95 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:55:12am

re: #94 BlueCanuck

re: #93 redc1c4

Later champ

96 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:57:53am

re: #95 Mel Lono

I'm not leaving just yet. Still have to do the fruitcup for littleoldlady.

97 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:01:27am

Very weird news coming out of Pakistan/India this morning. I'm still trying to make some sense of it

C.I.A. Outlines Pakistan Links With Militants

Pakistani militants respond by kidnapping

30 Pakistani security personnel

and planting

18 bombs in Surat, known as India's diamond city

I'm thinking most of this mornings mayhem is simply the Pakistan government trying to squeez a nuclear deal out of the U.S. similar to the one made by India.

Pakistan expects from United States the similar kind of nuclear deal it made with India.

I just can't figure out how militants kidnapping 30 security personnel they are allied with furthers the Taliban cause.

98 Mel Lono  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:02:14am

re: #96 BlueCanuck

i hear she's vacating.

99 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:08:20am

re: #98 Mel Lono

She's at the beach with meannastyteen and her mother. I know she has an internet connection cause I saw her doing some dinging yesterday morning. But she wasn't around for fruitcup. So the connection she does have might be sporadic.

100 Karridine  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:09:28am

re: #80 BlueCanuck

Talking about zombies latest expedition in SF gay community.

/think the street fair cranked to twelve.

Me? I think 'narcissistic, self-centered emotional adolescents crippled with terrible Attention-Gimme needs, Blue...

101 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:15:57am

re: #100 Karridine

yeah, that too. One reason why I stay away from our cities downtown core as much as possible during the annual Pride festivities. Good morning Karridine.

102 Bosch Fawstin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:16:42am

'If you're going through hell, keep going.' -Winston Churchill

103 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:25:04am

She's not at the beach anymore. ;-)

Nice job on the fruitcup (and donuts) yesterday, Blue!

104 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:27:50am

Jeez...even for a dead thread this is a pretty low turnout.

105 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:28:33am

re: #103 littleoldlady

Good morning littleoldlady, welcome back. I just finished disposing of reds attempt tonight. How was the beach?

106 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:30:24am

re: #104 Fenway_Nation

Well it is Tuesday/Wednesday Not too much stuff going on right now and people are catching on rest for the weekend.

107 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:31:50am

re: #105 BlueCanuck

The weather was perfect!

/beyond that, a day and a half with my mother is about all a normal person can take... ;-)

108 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:33:14am

re: #107 littleoldlady

heh, my mom is like that as well. A sweet lady, but small doses for me.

/but when needs must longer time can be spent.

109 Karridine  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:38:14am

re: #101 BlueCanuck

G'day, Canuck! (apologies for taking so long, I was downloading Da Do Run Run by the Ronettes, and Runaway by Del Shannon and Runaround Sue by Clappy Drippers)

Rainy Wednesday afternoon 1535 here... et tu, Brute?

110 Karridine  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:42:00am

re: #107 littleoldlady

The weather was perfect!

/beyond that, a day and a half with my mother is about all a normal person can take... ;-)


Does that "normal person" stuff supposedly include YOU, Lil Olde?

111 Whale Watcher  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:42:54am

I, too, used to admire Lance Armstrong. Then he abandoned his wife and small children for the sake of novel poontang.

Now, I think he is one step below pond scum.

I admit that I am hormonally ridden. That's cause I am a woman. That's why I know that women can be nutty as all get out but I don't care how nutty the woman you selected out of the crowd to breed with actually is, there are still ways to make things work so that you can stay in the home and help fully guide your offspring to stable and productive adult lives.

After you do that, go ahead and boink anything that moves. I won't say a word.

112 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:43:05am

re: #110 Karridine

Does that "normal person" stuff supposedly include YOU, Lil Olde?

She's the most normal one here at this hour.

/I should know about myself from this end, then there's red.

113 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:43:35am

re: #108 BlueCanuck

HA. "Sweet" is hardly how anyone (who knows her) would describe my mother. I knew she needed attention. I also knew that one of my brothers is already not speaking to her. (Half way through the summer; there's still hope and time she can slam my other brother for the trifecta. ;-) I'm getting pretty good at dealing, however.

/it only took me a half century +
//sheesh

I told her that I forgive her - before she even opened her mouth. ;-)

114 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:45:01am

re: #110 Karridine

Karridine! :-)

It's one of my life goals... ;-)

/that, and winning the Powerball
//okay, the chances are about equal. ;-)

115 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:54:39am

I came up with what I thought would be the perfect name for my fantasy baseball team (too bad I didn't join a league this year) before I realized it would be an even better name for a band- struggling or otherwise.

/Too bad I don't have any musical ability- save for alcohol fuelled Kareoke

116 Karridine  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:56:07am

re: #114 littleoldlady

Kiddo, I like your style! :P

Hafta relinquish keyboard control for a half hour or so... BBIAW

117 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:00:03am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------->
Help yourselves!

118 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:00:38am

The Fruitcupitron 3000s

119 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:01:30am

re: #115 Fenway_Nation

So? You gonna share it, or what?

Fenway! :-)

120 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:03:18am
121 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:04:32am
122 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:05:14am
123 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:05:29am

re: #120 ploome hineni

I have a coffeemaker that starts up when you double-clock the button.

/how did they know?!

plooomie! :-)

Thanks for the jokes you've been sending! :-)

124 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:05:54am
125 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:07:04am

re: #117 littleoldlady

Thanks for fruitcup lol.

/what no donuts?

//*ducks and covers*

126 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:07:08am
127 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:08:05am
128 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:08:51am

re: #39 zombie

Not me! I have penises to edit.

with mo' condoms?

129 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:10:42am

re: #124 ploome hineni


Go fish

130 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:11:19am

re: #119 littleoldlady

So? You gonna share it, or what?

Fenway! :-)

The Alleged Legends

131 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:12:03am

re: #125 BlueCanuck

go to tim's place but make sure you get 3 cups of joe

132 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:13:18am

re: #131 yochanan

Okay, but it will be about an hour. That's when ours opens.

/screw forget the donut, I am getting a breakfast sandwich.

133 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:13:36am

re: #125 BlueCanuck

had to ding you down just defending lol honor

consider this a honor ding down.

134 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:14:18am

re: #132 BlueCanuck

dunkin donuts is open 24/7

135 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:14:37am
136 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:16:19am

re: #133 yochanan

And I had to fix that. He served fruitcup yesterday!

yochanan! :-)

137 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:18:18am

re: #133 yochanan

re: #134 yochanan

No problem with the ding down. I am at work and can't leave the site. Otherwise there are a few 24/7 timmys around here that I could reach in a few minutes.

138 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:21:02am

re: #130 Fenway_Nation

The Alleged Legends

Can we use that for us Dead Threaders?

;-)

139 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:22:03am

re: #135 ploome hineni

Nope. Herring in cream or chopped herring...

/...mit some fresh rye bread

140 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:23:38am

re: #138 littleoldlady

That fits us all so well. Us the torch carriers in the night, known to a few but not to all. All of us legends in our own minds. ;)

141 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:25:20am
142 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:27:20am

re: #141 ploome hineni

My father (z"l) was the Lox King.

/harumph!
//at least he was in Philadelphia...

143 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:29:31am

re: #138 littleoldlady

Can we use that for us Dead Threaders?

;-)

Sure...why not?

/Is it still hip to be square?

144 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:31:33am

YUP! :-)

145 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:33:59am
146 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:41:58am

re: #145 ploome hineni

He was THE fish tray artiste in this town. These days I used these folks for when I get company. I have no idea who their supplier is, but their stuff is excellent.

/and kosher, too!

147 YankeeBoy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:49:21am

Morning Lizards

148 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:49:35am
149 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:50:48am

re: #148 ploome hineni

I want some

/now

Me too. :-(

/I hate when I make myself hungry with pictures! ;-)

YankeeBoy! :-)

150 YankeeBoy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:59:53am

littleoldlady...smile right back at ya

151 YankeeBoy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:03:23am

Hey Ploome

152 littleoldlady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:13:55am

Okay, my "alleged" day and a half "vacation" set me back a week. Time to catch up...

Good day, ALL you Alleged Legends!™

153 YankeeBoy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:18:37am

Always in the dead thread.

154 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:19:26am

re: #152 littleoldlady

Bye littleoldlady, see you tomorrow.

155 YankeeBoy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:19:46am

night little.

156 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:20:47am

Morning all.
CIA ties Pakistan spy agency to Afghan "militants".
I used to work with a fellow from Kabul. (He went back last year to design highways.) He always said that the Taliban were not homegrown; most were from Pakistan and were led and financed by Pakistan''s ISI.

157 Luigi  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:21:34am

Nobody has to play "Name That Party" when a Republican get in trouble..

Indictment of Stevens adds to bleak GOP prospects
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

WASHINGTON - The indictment of Alaska Republican Sen. Ted Stevens on charges that he lied about accepting gifts from an oil contractor only adds to his party's already bleak electoral prospects in November, and not simply because it could cost the GOP a Senate seat that should be safe.

While Stevens has vowed to fight charges and, through a spokesman, to move "full steam ahead" with his re-election bid, he's received little support from Alaska's Republican governor and no comment yet from his own GOP leader in the Capitol.

His indictment, though, could knock Republicans off message just as party leaders hoped to gain traction on one of the few issues in which voters solidly side with them: producing more domestic oil.

Stevens is the single most prominent advocate of oil drilling in protected areas, and charges that he took more than a quarter-million dollars worth of unreported gifts from oil services contractor Veco Corp. and its executives will play right into Democratic efforts to paint Republicans as a party captive to Big Oil.

/...I'm off to work.

158 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:21:51am

re: #156 Jim in Virginia

morning Jim. all i have to say is, WTF?

159 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:35:21am

re: #158 BlueCanuck
"WTF" applies to most of the current news. Barackomania, Chavez, Putin, any celebrity gossip.....

160 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:37:49am

re: #159 Jim in Virginia

Yeah I guess you're right. Sad to see supposed allies helping the other team. As for celebrity gossip, I don't even pay attention to that stuff.

161 billypaintbrush  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:38:06am

I see that Nancy Pelosi wrote a book. I'd ask for one, but wouldn't want them to break open a case that was headed for the SEIU office.

Thank Goodness she has immortalized her wisdom for the ages

162 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:42:35am

re: #161 billypaintbrush

my son was forced to join the SEIU they do nothing for the local members but take there dues and spend it on leftist crap.

163 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:42:44am

re: #161 billypaintbrush

Or provide a laugh for those selfsame generations.

164 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:51:52am

easy to upset the islmo kalvium (dogs)

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

165 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:08:45am

Good Morning LGF - is anybody not pissed off yet?

166 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:09:47am

re: #165 sparrowlake

Still working on a couple people up in Iceland, but that' about it. Good morning sparrowlake.

167 godfrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:14:33am

Good morning lizards.

There are many things to like about this hunt for the Great American Two-Fer -- especially the Old Spice commercial at the end.

168 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:16:37am

re: #166 BlueCanuck

Still working on a couple people up in Iceland, but that' about it.

Hey, Blue. I read something yesterday about a big piece of ice broke off and slid off a shelf into the water way the hell up there someplace, which I guess really pissed off the gorebull warmers.

169 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:18:30am

re: #168 sparrowlake

Don't know if it fell off a shelf, but I believe it was part of the ice pack. I just have one thing to say about that news article.

IT'S SUMMERTIME MORONS!

/land of the midnight sun you know.

170 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:20:13am

Good Morning Lizards

For your listening pleasure, an old fiddle tune

Whiskey Before Breakfast A tune I'm currently learning to play.

Enjoy

171 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:26:39am

re: #170 3 wood

Thanks, Fairway. Good luck learning that dittie, I guess it would sound pretty scratchy unless you get it just right. LOL.

BTW, what do you call a lizard who doesn't work?
Answer: A reptile dysfunction.

172 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:29:31am

re: #171 sparrowlake

Taking after buzzsawmonkey? He would be proud of that one.

173 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:32:37am

re: #171 sparrowlake

Actually, here's a better version by a friend of mine and music teacher, Stephen Siefert, on the mountain dulcimer like I play.
I've watched it 3 times and still can't believe what Steve does here.

174 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:33:14am

re: #171 sparrowlake

Answer: A reptile dysfunction.

I think you can get little blue pills for that.

175 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:35:05am

I collapse at my keyboard about 5 pm and wake up about two hours later to find only 170-ish posts? =_o

/goooooood evening, all...

176 BlueCanuck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:37:07am

re: #175 laZardo

Well it started late, and a lot of lizards got worked up over other topics.

And now I must be going. Have a good day all.

177 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:37:25am

One thousand Chinese are suing Sharon Stone for $1B for emotional distress caused by her saying the earthquake was pay-back for Tibet?

Color me cynical but, I think this is a cloaked official attempt to silence critics.

178 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:38:13am

re: #175 laZardo

I collapse at my keyboard about 5 pm and wake up about two hours later to find only 170-ish posts? =_o

/goooooood evening, all...

I'm scratching my head, too.

179 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:48:51am

re: #174 3 wood

I think you can get little blue pills for that.

LOL, yeah, and if your scales are still hard after 4 hours then you should definitely look for a job.

180 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:51:22am

re: #177 MandyManners

One thousand Chinese are suing Sharon Stone for $1B for emotional distress caused by her saying the earthquake was pay-back for Tibet?
Color me cynical but, I think this is a cloaked official attempt to silence critics.

That's a lot of egg rolls.

181 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:51:22am

re: #161 billypaintbrush

I see that Nancy Pelosi wrote a book.


No oil drilling allowed on her watch.
She and Al Gore shall save the planet!

Electric car in everyones driveway, if there are any driveways left.

The electric car is cheap, only 4 thousand dollars.

But the 600 mile drop-cord cost 12 thousand dollars.

182 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:57:49am

Good morning Lizards!

It's going to be sunny and hot today in Las Cruces, NM - up to 97 degrees, but that's pretty normal for the summer here. Kinda low, actually.

/it's a dry heat.

183 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:00:19am

In market news, the SEC has extended the limits on short selling it recently instituted.

SEC extends limits on naked short selling

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- The Securities and Exchange Commission has extended an order designed to prevent so-called naked short selling in stocks of major financial companies, including mortgage giants Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, for another two weeks.
The extension was announced by the federal agency late Tuesday. Originally a 10-day emergency order set to expire July 31, it now will run through Aug. 12 and won't be extended further, the SEC said.
Short sellers make money by borrowing stock they expect to fall in value, selling it, and then buying it back at a lower price, pocketing the difference.
Naked shorting occurs when traders haven't actually borrowed the shares they sell.
The extended rule requires any trader seeking to short the stocks to arrange to borrow the shares in advance of the sale.

The ability to do "naked short selling" in my opinion adds a layer of risky speculation to the market that is not wise. It's basically gambling.

I would hope that the SEC would just outright prohibit naked short selling. They also need to reinstitute the "uptick" rule, in which a short seller can not close out a short position by buying the stock back until the stock price ticks up. That discourages "bears" from pulling various shenannigans in the market (leaking rumors, etc) to scare people and force prices even lower.

184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:02:03am

re: #181 ibmkeyboard

Rimshot...Monkey!

185 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:03:29am

re: #177 MandyManners

I think the Indians tried to sue Richard Gere for kissing a Bollywood star a few months back...

186 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:06:13am

What do you call a Lizard who likes omelettes?
Answer: An egg wanna.

187 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:08:50am

Good morning lizards. Ya keepin it Obama?

188 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:08:59am

Good Morning Lizards!
High of 84 today and some rain..
How is everyone this fine day?
{SongBird}

189 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:10:44am

re: #187 opnion

No shortage of HOPE! and CHANGE! over here...

/definite shortage of drinks though...

190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:11:05am

re: #187 opnion

Obama like my mama? Nah.

uh...

Obama like the Dali Lama?...Uh Uh

Uhhh...

Obama like a Llama?....


I guess Gellin' is easier to rhyme.

191 stashiu  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:11:16am

"I gots reptile dysfunction, I gots it bad!"

Meanwhile, the VA says I am 100% permanent and total, but ever fearless, the insurance company says I have had a miraculous cure! And now onward to sue the disability insurance carrier.

I need fruitcup infusion therapy!

192 Right Brain  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:12:08am

Be sure and check out the detailed Obama tax plan now posted on Powerline. Oh My God.....

In NYS, where I live, a person with a combination of a paycheck and investments would lose about 70% on income taxes.

193 Right Brain  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:13:12am

HoosierHoops, you must not be in NYC, the temp here is going to 89.

194 lori lane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:14:19am

re: #188 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!
High of 84 today and some rain..

Howdy, HH and all good Lizards! 86 and rainy here. Couldn't get back to sleep earlier so I started listening to podcasts about Obama. Then I REALLY couldn't get back to sleep.

195 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:14:25am

re: #193 Right Brain

HoosierHoops, you must not be in NYC, the temp here is going to 89.

Indiana.. how are you today?

196 stashiu  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:14:50am

re: #192 Right Brain

So, this tax scheme is going to help the economy, how?

197 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:15:23am

re: #192 Right Brain

See? Your mother told you not to bother with education and that silly work ethic.

198 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:16:09am

re: #188 HoosierHoops

{HoosierHoops} Good morning!

VBS is going well. I started teaching the kids the 'seaweed dance' with ribbon sticks.

199 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:16:46am

re: #194 lori lane

Howdy, HH and all good Lizards! 86 and rainy here. Couldn't get back to sleep earlier so I started listening to podcasts about Obama. Then I REALLY couldn't get back to sleep.

a podcast about baby jesus? who was talking about him..
BTW.. You've been a member for 10 days now..we might have to throw a party for you.. :)

200 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:17:33am

A man who allegedly drove a sport utility vehicle during a brazen abduction of a 7-year-old girl in the Back Bay is cooperating with investigators, police said this afternoon.

The man, whose name has not been released, is helping authorities in their search for Clark Rockefeller and his daughter, Reigh Storrow Boss. Authorities located the black Chevy SUV this morning after a two-day search that stretched to New York and included the FBI. Investigators fear that Rockefeller may be trying to flee with the girl to Bermuda on his 72-foot yacht, Serenity.

SNIP

On Sunday afternoon, Rockefeller was in the middle of his first supervised visit with his daughter when he allegedly grabbed her, jumped into the black SUV, and sped off. Rockefeller faces charges that include custodial kidnapping.

SNIP

The visit was the first scheduled one since Rockefeller and his wife had divorced in December, police said. The child and Boss had come for the visit from London, where they live, police said.

The social worker, who was hired out of an independent agency, was there to supervise the visit, which is not unusual in divorce cases, according to a Probate Court official.

As the three walked down Marlborough Street, a man driving a black sport utility vehicle drove up beside them and stopped. Rockefeller shoved the social worker, grabbed his daughter, and jumped in the car. As the car sped off, the social worker tried to grab onto the vehicle and was dragged for several feet before the SUV disappeared down Berkeley Street.

SNIP

201 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:19:33am

re: #188 HoosierHoops

The usual. Morning was searing hot though, but that was countered by a nice cool breeze and rain as the evening set.

202 lori lane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:19:37am

re: #199 HoosierHoops

a podcast about baby jesus? who was talking about him..

Baby jesus? Good one! I was getting some education from Mark Levin (insert heart graphic here).

BTW.. You've been a member for 10 days now..we might have to throw a party for you.. :)

Party? *ears perk*

It's been a great ten days. Whoo hooo! :)

203 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:21:27am

Found this at Glenn Reynolds' joint. This is big.

U.S. Vehicle Miles Traveled down 3.7% compared to May '07.

China accounts for almost half of rising oil demand.

China alone accounts for about 40 percent of the world's recent increase in demand for oil, burning through twice as much now as it did a decade ago. Fifteen years ago, there were almost no private cars in the country. By the end of last year, the number had reached 15.2 million.

SUV sales are booming in China.

But in China, the number of SUVs sold rose 43 percent in May compared with the previous year, and full-size sedans were up 15 percent.


I see the subsidies in these other countries as doing us a favor. They are forcing us to begin moving away from oil before world oil production starts declining. We need that kick in the pants to get us going to make the adjustments and investments we need to do to start our move beyond the oil era.

May the saints preserve us from foreigners doing us favors. Though I note that this favor is unintended.

204 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:22:07am

re: #198 songbird

{HoosierHoops} Good morning!

VBS is going well. I started teaching the kids the 'seaweed dance' with ribbon sticks.

You know..the seaweed dance sounds like alot of fun..
I wonder if I did that clubbing..would i be clubbed?
/ come on coffee ..kick in

205 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:24:20am

China alone accounts for about 40 percent of the world's recent increase in demand for oil, burning through twice as much now as it did a decade ago. Fifteen years ago, there were almost no private cars in the country. By the end of last year, the number had reached 15.2 million.

15.2 million cars? so what ..Jay Leno has more cars than that...
/

206 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:24:34am

re: #204 HoosierHoops

You know..the seaweed dance sounds like alot of fun..
I wonder if I did that clubbing..would i be clubbed?
/ come on coffee ..kick in

Hoops Are you in to Big 10 football too?
How do you size up the season?

207 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:24:47am

re: #161 billypaintbrush

I see that Nancy Pelosi wrote a book.

Great! Let me see, I know there's a box of Crayolas around here somewhere.

208 irish rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:25:31am

Good morning, lizards.

74 sunny degrees along the Lake Michigan shoreline, hows' everyone today?

209 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:26:43am

re: #205 HoosierHoops

I saw on Speed Channel that Jay has a full-time steam mechanic. A young guy, too. What are the chances of getting that job?

210 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:26:59am

re: #204 HoosierHoops

You know..the seaweed dance sounds like alot of fun..
I wonder if I did that clubbing..would i be clubbed?
/ come on coffee ..kick in

Morning Lizards... Speaking of coffee.... :)

211 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:27:30am

re: #192 Right Brain

Martin Gross'll be able to re-write "A Call For Revolution" if this guy is elected. Don't know if he is still alive, but he'll be able to re-write it if he is.

Was the first time I heard, "The US Education Department does not educate a single child..."

I said, "Huh?" I began to pay closer attention on that day.

212 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:28:48am

re: #208 irish rose

Good morning, lizards.

74 sunny degrees along the Lake Michigan shoreline, hows' everyone today?

Good morning Rose..how is your Marine Son doing today?
I talked to mine at Camp P. yesterday..he was in a bad mood..tired of training.. he has to go to 29 palms.. :)

213 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:28:51am

re: #192 Right Brain

Be sure and check out the detailed Obama tax plan now posted on Powerline. Oh My God.....

In NYS, where I live, a person with a combination of a paycheck and investments would lose about 70% on income taxes.

Sounds like a demoncrats wet dream.....

214 Rancher  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:28:58am

re: #183 3 wood
Isn't it all gambling? They provide buyers and sellers to hedgers so do perform a service, they can't really affect the price of say gas, except short term, can they? If they bring down a financially failing entity aren't they just speeding up an inevitable failure? Why is this regulation necessary and is it working? Lots of questions, anyone can answer, but I do respect 3 wood's opinion on this stuff.

215 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:29:49am

re: #192 Right Brain

Be sure and check out the detailed Obama tax plan now posted on Powerline. Oh My God.....

In NYS, where I live, a person with a combination of a paycheck and investments would lose about 70% on income taxes.

It's what I call Obamunism. A combination of socialism and communism - Obama style.

216 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:29:51am

re: #210 doriangrey

Morning Lizards... Speaking of coffee.... :)

Here's your coffee today Dorian..
Fix the vette yet?

217 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:30:49am

re: #206 opnion

Hoops Are you in to Big 10 football too?
How do you size up the season?

You know i'd be drummed out of the state if i didn't follow big 10 football..
so ummm.. no comment..

218 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:31:05am

re: #216 HoosierHoops

Here's your coffee today Dorian..
Fix the vette yet?

Grumble grumble curse curse, dont ask..... ;p

219 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:32:41am

re: #217 HoosierHoops

You know i'd be drummed out of the state if i didn't follow big 10 football..
so ummm.. no comment..


The reason that I ask, Illinois has Ohio State at home this year.
Could they upset em again?

220 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:34:21am

re: #218 doriangrey

Grumble grumble curse curse, dont ask..... ;p

ok.. bright red MB convertible..
is that something you would be interested in?

221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:34:22am

re: #219 opnion

I'll answer that...nope. OSU gonna win out, go to the National Championship and have another mudhole stomped in there ass by LSU, Oklahoma or (insert any other team here.)

222 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:34:58am

re: #200 MandyManners

Amber alert photographs.

[Link: www.thebostonchannel.com...]

223 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:35:03am

Ya know what? I'm just about this far away *thumb and forefinger held about a quarter-inch apart* from nominating Frank J. for POTUS.

Frank makes Democrats useful

So what exactly do the Democrats do all day? Being a congressman is supposed to be a full time job, but I can't imagine them actually filling their days considering voting on a bill once a week. Since we pay them salaries, why not have them do other, more useful jobs as well? They could be picking up trash all day, coordinate parking, and then give their little speeches and vote on their little bills in the late afternoon. There's a ton of useful stuff we could have them do. Like, for instance, drugs being held up by the FDA because of lack of human trials could be tested on congressional Democrats.

I could use one of those Congresscritters to weed the flowerbeds and pick up sticks blown out of the trees. Wouldn't want to trust one with power tools, though.

224 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:35:12am

re: #212 HoosierHoops

Good morning Rose..how is your Marine Son doing today?
I talked to mine at Camp P. yesterday..he was in a bad mood..tired of training.. he has to go to 29 palms.. :)

Whats' his specialty?

225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:36:11am

re: #224 Irish Rose

Hiya Rose!

226 lori lane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:36:16am

re: #217 HoosierHoops

You know i'd be drummed out of the state if i didn't follow big 10 football..
so ummm.. no comment..

Hey, you gotta be ready for Hoosier football, Hoosier! Come on!

/fellow hoosier with a football photo blog even...

227 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:36:31am

re: #225 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hiya Rose!

Hiya, FBV ;).

228 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:37:00am

re: #221 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'll answer that...nope. OSU gonna win out, go to the National Championship and have another mudhole stomped in there ass by LSU, Oklahoma or (insert any other team here.)

I am pulling for the Illini, so we'll see.
A Buckeye pal of mine bet me that Illinois would not even score last year. Five minutes in an Illinois TD!

229 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:37:04am

re: #214 Rancher

Isn't it all gambling? They provide buyers and sellers to hedgers so do perform a service, they can't really affect the price of say gas, except short term, can they? If they bring down a financially failing entity aren't they just speeding up an inevitable failure? Why is this regulation necessary and is it working? Lots of questions, anyone can answer, but I do respect 3 wood's opinion on this stuff.

It's not all gambling in my opinion.

It's one thing to short sell a stock that you think is turly overpriced and heading for a down turn. That, in my view, is valid investment activity. As you say, since the stock would head down anyway, all you are doing is making the market more efficient this way.

It's quite another thing to artificially drive a stock price down via various chicanery and using naked short selling and the absence of the uptick rule. That is uncalled for.

I believe that naked short selling is damaging, as well as the absence of the uptick rule.

230 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:37:12am

re: #220 HoosierHoops

ok.. bright red MB convertible..
is that something you would be interested in?

Had one already, well bright green anyways. You have to fix them every time you want to drive them. they are a lot of fun to drive, but the maintenance is a real killer.

231 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:37:54am

So... I am going to be put in front of a firing squad this morning if I mention the Tennessee church shooting again?

232 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:37:55am

re: #224 Irish Rose

Whats' his specialty?

he's a squad leader of first platoon, kilo co. 3/5th marines..
basically a grunt..

233 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:38:07am

re: #219 opnion

The reason that I ask, Illinois has Ohio State at home this year.
Could they upset em again?

No.

234 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:38:29am

re: #224 Irish Rose

Whats' his specialty?

If he's training at 29 Palms I'd guess mech infantry...

235 ciaospirit  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:39:14am

re: #18 Killian Bundy

Senators need to get your letters and calls on this. Global Poverty Act (S. 2433). Stop stealing our money! Obama is trying to raise our taxes even before he gets in office. Imagine what he'll do if he actually gets in.

Obama's Global Poverty Act offers us a global socialist destiny we do not want, one that challenges America's very sovereignty. The former "post-racial" candidate obviously intends to be a post-national president.

A statement from Obama's office says: "With billions of people living on just dollars a day around the world, global poverty remains one of the greatest challenges and tragedies the international community faces. It must be a priority of American foreign policy to commit to eliminating extreme poverty and ensuring every child has food, shelter and clean drinking water."

These are worthy goals, but note there's no mention of spreading democracy, expanding free trade, promoting entrepreneurial capitalism or ridding the world of despots who rule and ravage countries such as Zimbabwe and Sudan.

236 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:39:20am

re: #231 Irish Rose


{Irish Rose}

237 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:40:23am

re: #232 HoosierHoops

he's a squad leader of first platoon, kilo co. 3/5th marines..
basically a grunt..

Please send him my heartfelt thanks for his sacrifice and hard work, and his willingness to serve our Country.

Our young people serving today are the best of the best.

238 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:40:24am

re: #224 Irish Rose

Whats' his specialty?

Speaking of leathernecks in my neck of the woods, how is your son doing?

239 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:40:48am

re: #235 ciaospirit

Senators need to get your letters and calls on this. Global Poverty Act (S. 2433). Stop stealing our money! Obama is trying to raise our taxes even before he gets in office. Imagine what he'll do if he actually gets in.

Obama's Global Poverty Act offers us a global socialist destiny we do not want, one that challenges America's very sovereignty. The former "post-racial" candidate obviously intends to be a post-national president.

A statement from Obama's office says: "With billions of people living on just dollars a day around the world, global poverty remains one of the greatest challenges and tragedies the international community faces. It must be a priority of American foreign policy to commit to eliminating extreme poverty and ensuring every child has food, shelter and clean drinking water."

That's Obamunism.

240 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:40:49am

re: #233 3 wood

No.

Not even a maybe? They were not supposed to go into Columbus last year & win. This year is in Champaign. OSU will be a big favorite, but.....

241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:41:04am

re: #228 opnion

I just regurgitated what I heard Cowherd say yesterday on ESPN. I have no earthly idea. Sorry.

But, I am afraid that Tressel may have difficulty if he goes to the National Championship again without winning it all. Which, of course, is stupid. Not an OSU fan, just observing.

GO HOKIES! They're thugs, but they're OUR thugs!

242 Rancher  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:41:26am

The Arctic may hold 90 billion barrels of oil but Americans will never drill for a drop. Thank God the Chiness will.

/Go Purdue!

243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:42:02am

re: #231 Irish Rose

Mention away Rose! We aren't gonna bite (hard)!

244 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:42:44am

re: #242 Rancher

The Arctic may hold 90 billion barrels of oil but Americans will never drill for a drop. Thank God the Chiness will.

/Go Purdue!

Or the Russians, on a side note, my nephew went to Purdue...

245 Rancher  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:43:12am

re: #231 Irish Rose

What shooting?

/Simper Fi Marine Moms!

246 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:44:04am

Fayetteville police arrested two Razorbacks for DWI this week.

Poor fellows have to wait for those big NFL paychecks to afford coke.

247 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:44:07am

re: #240 opnion

Not even a maybe?

Not gonna happen. The Illini surprised wome people last year. Won;t happen 2 years in a row.

And after talking to some folks I know who's talent evaluation abilities I respect, I take the Bears for 5 and 11 this year.

At best. It's gonna be ugly for Bears fans.

When your best receiver is an over the hill Marty Booker and you have no established running game, you got big problems.

248 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:44:48am

re: #235 ciaospirit

These are worthy goals, but note there's no mention of spreading democracy, expanding free trade, promoting entrepreneurial capitalism or ridding the world of despots who rule and ravage countries such as Zimbabwe and Sudan.

But those countries proudly step up against American corporatist imperialism! Why on earth would we want to remove them from power!?

/Obammunist mode off

249 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:44:57am

re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I just regurgitated what I heard Cowherd say yesterday on ESPN. I have no earthly idea. Sorry.

But, I am afraid that Tressel may have difficulty if he goes to the National Championship again without winning it all. Which, of course, is stupid. Not an OSU fan, just observing.

GO HOKIES! They're thugs, but they're OUR thug
s!

The problem for the Big 10 & you can throw Notre Dame in, is the Southeast Conference & the Pac 10 have bigger, faster athletes.
They are starting to recruit speed now, so it should take a few years.

250 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:45:04am

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mention away Rose! We aren't gonna bite (hard)!

I didnt eat him, I just chewed on him a bit.... / Draco

251 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:45:37am

re: #238 doriangrey

Speaking of leathernecks in my neck of the woods, how is your son doing?

He spent the day at the beach yesterday, laying around doing absolutely nothing except impressing the ladies, and he came home with a kickass tan.

Had a big group of his buddies out for a bonfire last night, and he had more beer than he should've. He's currently laying on the floor between the coffee table and the sofa, sound asleep with a smile on his face.

In other words, he's enjoying his leave ;).

252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:46:12am

re: #249 opnion

Hey Op! Just realized. WE ARE TALKING FOOTBALL! WHOO HOO!

253 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:46:39am

re: #247 3 wood

Not gonna happen. The Illini surprised wome people last year. Won;t happen 2 years in a row.

And after talking to some folks I know who's talent evaluation abilities I respect, I take the Bears for 5 and 11 this year.

At best. It's gonna be ugly for Bears fans.

When your best receiver is an over the hill Marty Booker and you have no established running game, you got big problems.

But the Bears do not think that there is a quarterback issue.

254 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:46:39am

re: #251 Irish Rose

He spent the day at the beach yesterday, laying around doing absolutely nothing except impressing the ladies, and he came home with a kickass tan.

Had a big group of his buddies out for a bonfire last night, and he had more beer than he should've. He's currently laying on the floor between the coffee table and the sofa, sound asleep with a smile on his face.

In other words, he's enjoying his leave ;).

Are you here visiting with him? Oh and good for him.....

255 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:47:19am

re: #252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Op! Just realized. WE ARE TALKING FOOTBALL! WHOO HOO!

It's time!

256 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:47:24am

re: #243 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mention away Rose! We aren't gonna bite (hard)!

I'm no less troubled, but I think I'll pass this morning.

257 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:47:34am

re: #252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Op! Just realized. WE ARE TALKING FOOTBALL! WHOO HOO!

Coffee just kick in? Boy you are a fast one this morning FVB.... ;P

258 Rancher  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:48:59am

When's preseason start?

259 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:49:40am

re: #254 doriangrey

Are you here visiting with him? Oh and good for him.....


No Dorian, he's at home with me here in Michigan.
Two weeks leavetime, and he has six days left.

260 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:49:41am

re: #249 opnion

Speaking of Notre Dame, former Domer Samardzija is up now in the bigs with the Cubs as a relief pitcher. He has a nasty 95 - 97 mph 2 seam fastball that makes the hitters want to throw up.

If he can just throw strikes he will be something special. Kerry Wood might want to start checking his pension plan.

261 eaglewingz08  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:49:48am

This is one Congressional Bill I can certainly give my wholehearted approval too (considering it was an idea in my first post on the traitorous Boumediene Opinion):

You are viewing the following version of this bill:

Introduced in House: This is the original text of the bill as it was written by its sponsor and submitted to the House for consideration.

Text of Legislation
HR 6615 IH

110th CONGRESS

H. R. 6615

To provide for the transport of the enemy combatants detained in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Washington, DC, where the United States Supreme Court will be able to more effectively micromanage the detainees by holding them on the Supreme Court grounds, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 24, 2008

Mr. GOHMERT introduced the following bill;

A BILL

To provide for the transport of the enemy combatants detained in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Washington, DC, where the United States Supreme Court will be able to more effectively micromanage the detainees by holding them on the Supreme Court grounds, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,


SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘Giving Inmate Terrorists More Opportunities (GITMO) Act of 2008’.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.
Congress finds the following:

(1) The United States Supreme Court issued an opinion styled Boumediene v. Bush on June 12, 2008.

(2) Justice Anthony Kennedy, in the court’s majority opinion, held that foreign terrorism suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base in Cuba have constitutional rights to challenge their detention in United States courts.

(3) This is an obvious effort on the part of the Supreme Court to micromanage the detainment and disposition of detainees in the War on Terror who are dedicated to destroying innocent people and the American way of life.

(4) The United States Supreme Court clearly needs increased opportunity to oversee the handling of the enemy combatants, as it has seen fit to take a greater role in managing the Global War on Terror, which is a duty previously exercised by the Executive Branch.

(5) There can be no better way for the United States Supreme Court to exercise its new self-appointed war powers than to house the prisoners whom it has taken a greater role in overseeing.

SEC. 3. TRANSPORTATION AND DETAINMENT OF ENEMY COMBATANTS.

(a) Transportation- The Secretary of Defense shall immediately transport all enemy combatants detained in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Washington, DC, where the United States Supreme Court shall hold the prisoners on the Court grounds, confined by adequate fencing.

(b) Shelter on Supreme Court Building Grounds- The Secretary of Defense, in conjunction with Justice Anthony Kennedy, the author of the majority opinion in Boumediene v. Bush, is directed to provide shelter for the detainees outside the United States Supreme Court building, but on the building grounds. The Secretary of Defense shall provide guards to watch over the prisoners and shall implement a system to ensure that the prisoners receive the appropriate amount of food and water. Should the detainees need the use of restroom facilities, they shall use the facilities inside the United States Supreme Court building. The Chief Justice, if the Chief Justice so chooses, may perform the duties of Justice Anthony Kennedy under this subsection.

(c) Guard Duty- If any of the nine Supreme Court justices desire at any time to stand guard over the prisoners, or to provide the prisoners with their meals or water, or both, then the justices shall be permitted to perform these functions whenever they want.

262 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:49:51am

re: #258 Rancher

When's preseason start?

Slow down son, training camps just opened....

263 eaglewingz08  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:50:52am

Part 2 of Rep Gomert's Bill:

SEC. 4. ENFORCEMENT.

If either the Secretary of Defense or any justice of the Supreme Court refuses to carry out their duties under this Act, then their respective department or court shall receive funding for the next fiscal year at half the level of funding appropriated for the current fiscal year, or until such time as the Supreme Court no longer desires to micromanage the prisoners who have sworn to destroy our way of life.

264 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:51:21am

I'm starting to miss him and his isn't even gone yet. Kim du Toit announced his blog retirement. Acidman up and died on me. Seven Inches of Sense quit blogging.

Before it's done I'll just be talking to myself. So it'll look like 1980 all over again.

265 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:51:37am

re: #259 Irish Rose

No Dorian, he's at home with me here in Michigan.
Two weeks leavetime, and he has six days left.

There are beaches in Michigan..... What the heck......

266 maddogg  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:52:36am

WHY MEN ARE NEVER DEPRESSED:


Men Are Just Happier People--

Your last name stays put.
The garage is all yours.
Wedding plans take care of themselves.
Chocolate is just another snack.
You can never be pregnant.
Car mechanics tell you the truth.
The world is your urinal.
You never have to drive to another petrol station restroom because this one is just too icky.
You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt.
Same work, more pay.
Wrinkles add character.
People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.
New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet.
One mood all the time.

Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat.
You know stuff about tanks and engines.
A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.
You can open all your own jars.
You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.
Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.
Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.
You never have strap problems in public.
You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes.
Everything on your face stays its original colour.
The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.
You only have to shave your face and neck.
You can play with toys all your life.
One wallet and one pair of shoes -- one colour for all seasons.
You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.
You can 'do' your nails with a pocket knife.
You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache.

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

267 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:52:55am

re: #253 opnion

But the Bears do not think that there is a quarterback issue.

Tehy don't even know what the position is. The organization has never understood it and it's importance in the NFL today. You can't play defense anymore in the NFL, the name of the game is to throw and score a lot of touchdowns by passing. You need a good QB, a decent offensive line and fast receivers to do that.

Maybe in another 20 or 30 years the Bears front office will figure that out. But until then they will focus ont he defense and kicking game.

268 stashiu  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:54:42am

re: #256 Irish Rose

I thank you and your son for your service!

Got accordions?

269 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:55:15am

re: #266 maddogg

WHY MEN ARE NEVER DEPRESSED:


Men Are Just Happier People--

Your last name stays put.
The garage is all yours.
Wedding plans take care of themselves.
Chocolate is just another snack.
You can never be pregnant.
Car mechanics tell you the truth.
The world is your urinal.
You never have to drive to another petrol station restroom because this one is just too icky.
You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a bolt.
Same work, more pay.
Wrinkles add character.
People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.
New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet.
One mood all the time.

Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat.
You know stuff about tanks and engines.
A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.
You can open all your own jars.
You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.
Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.
Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.
You never have strap problems in public.
You are unable to see wrinkles in your clothes.
Everything on your face stays its original colour.
The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.
You only have to shave your face and neck.
You can play with toys all your life.
One wallet and one pair of shoes -- one colour for all seasons.
You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.
You can 'do' your nails with a pocket knife.
You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache.

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

ROTFLMAO............You are sooooo going to get in deep shit for posting that.....

270 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:55:43am

re: #204 HoosierHoops

You know..the seaweed dance sounds like alot of fun..
I wonder if I did that clubbing..would i be clubbed?
/ come on coffee ..kick in

The seaweed dance is an active swashbuckling dance with 8 foot long ribbon streamers done to the Theme music of Pirates of the Caribbean.

271 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:55:51am

Anyone see Varmint's new cartoon for today?

All the Lightbringer needs now is an armband and a Sam Browne belt.

Niederlage Heil!

272 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:57:07am

re: #270 songbird

The seaweed dance is an active swashbuckling dance with 8 foot long ribbon streamers done to the Theme music of Pirates of the Caribbean.

Scary............................................. No, real scary..........................

273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:57:11am

re: #270 songbird

The seaweed dance is an active swashbuckling dance with 8 foot long ribbon streamers done to the Theme music of Pirates of the Caribbean.

Your vacation bible school rocks!

Gotta run fair Lizards. Y'all keep it Obama.

274 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:57:43am

re: #268 stashiu

I thank you and your son for your service!

Got accordions?

Got accordions!
Got music?

(and I'll be sure to do that!)

275 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:57:47am
276 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:58:03am

You'd have thought someone might have mentioned this on a newscast. Course they may well have, since I don't watch the news much nowadays.

Homelessness down 30% during Bush term.

I blame Bush, that heartless bassard. Depriving all those poor souls the health-giving benefits of sleeping in the bracing outdoor air.

277 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:58:15am

It's cool. Even the big boys are participating!

278 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:58:24am

re: #271 The Other Les

Anyone see Varmint's new cartoon for today?

All the Lightbringer needs now is an armband and a Sam Browne belt.

Niederlage Heil!

Oh, that's good.

I wonder if Cox and Forkum have done anything about BHO lately.

279 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:58:35am

re: #269 doriangrey

Yeah, Mandy is either still asleep or at work.

280 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:59:55am

re: #278 MandyManners


Oh, there you are.

/

281 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:00:29am

re: #266 maddogg

Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat.

That's a very lengthy conversation for me.

I usually do one sentence and hang up. Simplifies things.

Another source of happiness is I only need 3 channels on the TV. ESPN, the weather channel, and the market reports.

282 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:00:38am
283 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:00:50am

re: #276 razorbacker

Even the "homeless by choice" crowd! Damn conservatives taking away our freedoms!

/

284 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:00:54am

re: #275 laZardo

In the words of Fry from Futurama...

Ah, yes. Futurama. Where The Kid learned to say "bite my shiny metal ass".

285 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:00:57am

Sigh..... Time for this Lizard to meander off to work... I hope the electrician can figure out why my M700 centerless sander refuses to work today...

286 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:01:06am

If it has not been put out there already... Here's a quote for the day...

"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."

Barack Hussein Obama, yesterday, to a crowd of overjoyed minority journalists...

Deed, eh? Like reparations?

287 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:01:16am

re: #280 formercorpsman

Oh, there you are.

/

Here I be.

288 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:01:44am

re: #282 FrogMarch

Aww, how.... disgusting.

Gag.

289 Rancher  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:02:21am
290 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:02:24am

re: #282 FrogMarch

Aww, how.... disgusting.

Poor guy can't take a walk at the beach.

291 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:03:37am

re: #280 formercorpsman

Oh, there you are.

/

Shhhh...Dont tell Mandy about post #266.........

292 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:03:43am

re: #286 tfc3rid

If it has not been put out there already... Here's a quote for the day...

"I consistently believe that when it comes to whether it's Native Americans or African-American issues or reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds."

Barack Hussein Obama, yesterday, to a crowd of overjoyed minority journalists...

Deed, eh? Like reparations?

More like bending down to kiss his half-white, half-African ass.

293 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:04:21am

Morning Everyone,
How's everything going today?

294 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:05:00am

Good morning Mandy................. ;)

295 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:05:05am

Good morning all y'all from a warm (74 degrees going up to 91 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte (though we are supposed to get T-Storms, etc. etc. later today/tonight)!
How is everyone this fine morning?

296 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:05:21am

re: #276 razorbacker

You'd have thought someone might have mentioned this on a newscast. Course they may well have, since I don't watch the news much nowadays.

Homelessness down 30% during Bush term.

I blame Bush, that heartless bassard. Depriving all those poor souls the health-giving benefits of sleeping in the bracing outdoor air.

Yeah. homelessness is down 30% because he forced them into the military and had them killed in the Illegal War in Iraq...

/

297 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:05:27am

re: #291 doriangrey

Oh, she saw it.

It like watching the bass swimming around your hook, acting as if the bread on it does not really look the appetizing.

298 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:05:29am

re: #295 realwest

Good morning all y'all from a warm (74 degrees going up to 91 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte (though we are supposed to get T-Storms, etc. etc. later today/tonight)!
How is everyone this fine morning?

Good morning realwest.......

299 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:05:35am

Mornin' y'all!

300 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:05:42am

re: #282 FrogMarch

Aww, how.... disgusting.

Paul said...

With Ted Kennedy not feeling so well, John Kerry has to fill in for his 'official' duties. Looks like he's filling in for Barney Frank, too.

Baaawaaahaaahaaa, er, urm, I mean, there's no call for that kind of divisiveness.

301 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:06:20am

re: #297 formercorpsman

Oh, she saw it.

It like watching the bass swimming around your hook, acting as if the bread on it does not really look the appetizing.

ROTFLMAO............Yea, Mandy has a sixth sense for posts like that....

302 ciaospirit  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:06:47am

Anybody looking for a reason to vote democrat? Here are a few (author unknown).

I'm voting Democrat because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn than I would.

I'm voting Democrat because freedom of speech is fine as long as nobody is offended by it.

I'm voting Democrat because when we pull out of Iraq I trust that the bad guys will stop what they're doing because they now think we're good people.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that people who can't tell us if it will rain on Friday CAN tell us that the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don't start driving a Prius.

I'm voting Democrat because I'm not concerned about the slaughter of millions of babies so long as we keep all death row inmates alive.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that business should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest away to the government for redistribution as THEY see fit.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe three or four pointy headed elitist liberals need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit some fringe kooks who would NEVER get their agendas past the voters.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe that when the terrorists don't have to hide from us over there, they’ll come over here, and I don't want to have any guns in the house to shoot them with.

I'm voting Democrat because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I've decided to marry my horse.

I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.

303 doriangrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:06:57am

re: #299 pingjockey

Mornin' y'all!

Morning ping... Man ya'll show up right when I have to leave... ;P

304 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:07:11am

re: #284 MandyManners

Bender was a badass to look up to...until they installed that low-speed impact bumper on it...

/dreamy sigh

305 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:07:14am

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet (too lazy to go through 39 spinoff links) but:

U.S. confronts Pakistan on links to militants: report
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A top Central Intelligence Agency official traveled to Islamabad and confronted senior officials with evidence of ties between Pakistan's spy agency and militants operating in that country's tribal areas, the New York Times reported in Wednesday editions.

The CIA envoy presented information linking members of Pakistan's Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) with some militant groups responsible for a string of attacks including the suicide bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul this month which killed 58 people, the newspaper said.

The report, based on accounts by U.S. military and intelligence officials, described the decision to confront Pakistan over ISI's activities as the bluntest warning to Islamabad since shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

It was published a day after Pakistani Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani visited the White House and made a commitment to U.S. President George W. Bush to secure Pakistan's border with Afghanistan.

The New York Times said the CIA assessment specifically raised links between ISI members and the militant network led by Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani, believed by the U.S. intelligence community to have close ties to senior al Qaeda figures in Pakistan's tribal areas.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

306 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:08:06am

re: #301 doriangrey

The grammar in that post informs me I need a cup of coffee.

307 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:08:24am

re: #303 doriangrey
Sorry about that. :(

308 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:08:30am

re: #298 doriangrey
Hey there dorian! I've been getting here too late to catch you in the morning, lately - how are you and how's the 'Vette ?!

309 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:08:40am

On Monday I posted a ling to an op-ed written by Stephen Lewis accusing the president of Suadan, Omar Hassan al-Bashir of crimes against humanity. Today, in the letters to the editor section, was this response:

Let him who is without sin

FAIZA HASSAN TAHA
Sudanese ambassador
July 30, 2008

Ottawa -- I cannot confirm or deny the incidents of the meetings with our President, Omar Hassan al-Bashir, as described by Stephen Lewis (I Too Accuse Him Of Crimes Against Humanity - July 28). I, as an ambassador, don't have the other story from the President's or the Foreign Minister's side. It also really astonishes me to find that someone such as Mr. Lewis, who was a high representative of the UN, can give himself all the jurisdictions of a prosecutor and a judge in the case of Mr. al-Bashir. One should ask Mr. Lewis: Does your article itself not constitute a violation of a basic principle of human rights that a person is innocent until proven guilty?

Mr. al-Bashir's defenders, and they are many, are repeating what Jesus said: "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone." Some refer to the crimes committed against humanity in the recent history, some to the colonial time, and others to the genocide against the first nations. Although justice is indispensable for all, it is also indivisible.

Even the annexations of Darfur (carried out by the British between 1874 and 1917) and southern Sudan (between 1874 and 1896) were resisted vigorously, with thousands of Darfurians and southern Sudanese dying in that resistance.

Note that the spokesthug of the Islamofascist regime of Sudan, begins his letter with a quote from Jesus. He uses the predictable defense of characterizing his accuser as "prosecutor & judge". The ambassador must be a student of Chomsky, as he throws in the anti-colonial talking points. Classy.

310 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:09:31am

re: #302 ciaospirit

Anybody looking for a reason to vote democrat? Here are a few (author unknown).

I like the last one:

I'm voting Democrat because I believe oil companies' profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene but the government taxing the same gallon of gas at 15% isn't.
311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:10:28am

re: #276 razorbacker

Sure that Bush didn't kill them for Cheney's 3am feeding?

312 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:10:44am

To work. See all y'all on the breaks.

313 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:11:21am

BHO's hair has been altered.

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

314 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:12:20am

Morning All. The day is looking good.

Karadzic taken to Hague for genocide trial

Karadzic, arrested near Belgrade last week, was flown out of Serbia by plane at night under tight security. Shortly after dawn, he was whisked from Rotterdam airport to the Scheveningen detention centre near The Hague.

315 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:12:33am

I'm out of here, folks.
Have a good one.

316 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:14:17am

re: #296 tfc3rid Good morining to you my friend! Did you say reparations? Well here's a little "mini-rant" I posted on the prior thread about reparations:
Part One:
Reparations are BULLSHIT. Period.
First of all, slavery ended in 1865. So no White person who was born after the end of the Civil War, no White person who's ancestors came to the US after the Civil War, and most assuredly, no white person who's ancestors FOUGHT for the UNION side should have to pay reparations of any kind.
Moreover, any Black person who thinks they deserve reparations due to Slavery here, must first prove that he or she is a descendant of someone who was in fact a slave (Carribean Blacks don't qualify) and must deduct the amount of money he or she and his or her ancestors derived from receiving welfare or other governmental funds (except for GI Benefits) from the amount anyone could possibly squeeze out of whatever White folks' ancestors owned slaves, or fought for the South in the Civil War. And, just as with Obama's winning POTUS, no more affirmative action, no more "extra credit" in hiring, no more "racial harrassment at work" lawsuits and no more Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton talking down at us or talking at all for that matter.
Reparations is a farce."

317 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:15:17am

re: #316 realwest
Reparations Part Deux:
"Oh and the term "Native Americans" must be expunged from use and dictionaries as they came here from either Asia or Europe, depending on whom you believe. Moreover, The Apache, Commanche and Crow, amongst others, deserve reparations from the Sioux, the Cheyenne and the other LARGER tribes which pushed the Apache, et.al. off of the Great Plains into the arid Southwestern United States, to fulfill the Sioux, et.al.'s "Manifest Destiny".

318 coz  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:15:52am

Good Morning and Happy Hump Day from the Land of Coz!

319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:16:04am

re: #316 realwest

You are such a racist!

/

320 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:17:01am

Obama's Symbolic Importance

In his closed door meeting with House Democrats this evening, presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama delivered a real zinger. According to a witness, he was waxing lyrical about last week's trip to Europe, when he concluded, "this is the moment, as Nancy [Pelosi] noted, that the world is waiting for."

The 200,000 souls who thronged to his speech in Berlin came not just for him, he told the enthralled audience of congressional representatives.

"I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions," he said.

/pass the ipecac

321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:18:08am

re: #313 MandyManners

Huh...the "Graying" of the Obama?

322 tfc3rid  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:19:01am

realwest...

I know, I hear ya man... But that is a quote direct from the horse's ass' mouth yesterday...

They ate it up...

323 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:19:12am

re: #318 coz Good morning to ya coz! How are things in cozland today?

324 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:20:10am

re: #316 realwest

Part One:
Reparations are BULLSHIT. Period.

House formally apologizes for slavery and Jim Crow

The House on Tuesday issued an unprecedented apology to black Americans for the wrongs committed against them and their ancestors who suffered under slavery and Jim Crow segregation laws.

"Today represents a milestone in our nation's efforts to remedy the ills of our past," said Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, D-Mich., chairwoman of the Congressional Black Caucus.

/when Lord Obama takes office, can reparations be far behind?

325 coz  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:20:44am

Realgood, realwest, ... realgood!

326 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:21:07am

re: #319 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sorry FBV, even with the sarc tag I don't like that post - everything I said is true on those two posts and even kidding around about me being a racist detracts from the substance of what I said.
(and yes I know you don't think I'm a racist; just don't want to go off message there, ya know?)

327 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:21:44am

re: #305 realwest

Don't know if this has been mentioned yet (too lazy to go through 39 spinoff links) but:

U.S. confronts Pakistan on links to militants: report
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A top Central Intelligence Agency official traveled to Islamabad and confronted senior officials with evidence of ties between Pakistan's spy agency and militants operating in that country's tribal areas, the New York Times reported in Wednesday editions.

The CIA envoy presented information linking members of Pakistan's Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) with some militant groups responsible for a string of attacks including the suicide bombing of the Indian Embassy in Kabul this month which killed 58 people, the newspaper said.

The report, based on accounts by U.S. military and intelligence officials, described the decision to confront Pakistan over ISI's activities as the bluntest warning to Islamabad since shortly after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

It was published a day after Pakistani Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani visited the White House and made a commitment to U.S. President George W. Bush to secure Pakistan's border with Afghanistan.

The New York Times said the CIA assessment specifically raised links between ISI members and the militant network led by Maulavi Jalaluddin Haqqani, believed by the U.S. intelligence community to have close ties to senior al Qaeda figures in Pakistan's tribal areas.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

'Morning Realwest- hope you're doing well today. That's a very interesting post. Someone more suspicious/cynical than myself might be tempted to think that our spooks are trying to show the ISI that they have been penetrated by CIA in order to throw it into a "mole hunt"- making it less useful to anybody, including AQ.

Nasty business hunting moles...

/Good Morning Everybody!

328 coz  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:22:32am

Word of the Day
Wednesday July 30, 2008

sesquipedalian ses-kwuh-puh-DAYL-yuhn, adjective:
1. Given to or characterized by the use of long words.
2. Long and ponderous; having many syllables.

noun:
1. A long word.

329 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:23:53am

re: #316 realwest

Dave Chappelle did a hilarious sketch on what would happen if they issued "reparation" checks back in '05. You'd have to see it to believe it.

330 jcbunga  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:23:58am

Hey folks,

The troops get what they need to fight, but many of the little things fall through the cracks. Take some time to adopt a unit and send them what they're asking for.

There are many places that provide contacts, I use this one:

[Link: www.anysoldier.com...]

You can scroll through the postings, find a group and then their military mailing address is e-mailed to you.

It's sometimes funny, sometimes heartbreaking to see what they ask for. Clearly getting very hot in Iraq and Afghanistan, and some of the outposts are really out in remote areas.

Postage is only charged to the point of exit, so east or west coast.

Take a look.

331 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:24:48am

re: #317 realwest

Real, I actually have a smidgen of tribe blood in my line.

The groups you refer to, especially the Sioux, were brutal to other tribes.

Many tribes enslaved other tribes as well.

It is amazing, once people are willing to accept unadulterated historical fact, the rose colored glasses of lore become quite clear.

332 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:24:48am

re: #317 realwest

dinged this down by mistake, so sorry Realwest!

333 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:24:55am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Indian authorities must be high alert after yet another bunch of bombs were discovered in a marketplace and disarmed. 18 of them in fact.

Police defused 18 bombs found near the main diamond markets in the city of Surat and issued a sketch of a young man believed to be linked to one of two explosives-filled cars discovered there.

Two of the cars found today, and two used in the prior bombings, were apparently stolen from a Mumbai suburb in July.

334 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:25:00am

re: #328 coz

Word of the Day
Wednesday July 30, 2008

sesquipedalian ses-kwuh-puh-DAYL-yuhn, adjective:
1. Given to or characterized by the use of long words.
2. Long and ponderous; having many syllables.

noun:
1. A long word.

Hahahahah, love it!

How fitting, and somehow, I've never heard the word before.

335 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:26:00am

Dirty Harry illuminates the sickness of the Left.

[Link: dirtyharrysplace.com...]

336 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:27:21am

Jon Voight speaks out.

[WARNING: The commentary surrounding the piece will likely incite vomiting.]

337 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:27:40am

Will the Europeans apologize for bringing it here?

Or doesn't that count because the first were white?

I mean, they sent the Irish into the Florida swamps.

338 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:27:40am

re: #313 MandyManners

/To make him look all the more presidential, my dear

Mr Obama's aides say that it is relatively early in the general election cycle, but there is a growing anxiousness about why he is not doing better against Mr McCain, who has so far run an unimpressive, disjointed and at times shambolic campaign.

Hammer, meet nail. Better start campaigning in earnest John or you WILL lose the election

339 apachegunner  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:27:45am

Moring from Creech AFB, NV and it's might cool out there but blazing to the sunny mid 90s this afternoon. Hey Real, how ya doing?

340 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:27:48am

re: #321 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Huh...the "Graying" of the Obama?

I posted a few links to his photographs the other morning.

341 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:27:52am

And Boker effen Tov.

342 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:28:01am

re: #333 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Indian authorities must be high alert after yet another bunch of bombs were discovered in a marketplace and disarmed. 18 of them in fact.

Two of the cars found today, and two used in the prior bombings, were apparently stolen from a Mumbai suburb in July.

They've been on high alert for a while...

Apparently the latest spate of violence in India is very unusual because it is very consistent, occurs in very "innocuous" areas, and seems much more random than past violence there. It's led to a suspicious and vigilant society.

I am glad they found these 18 (wow, thats a LOT) bombs before they could go off.

343 coz  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:29:25am

Mid week nonsense -

67 million pounds of pesticides and about 3 million tons of fertilizer are used annually on lawns in the US.

A single share of Coca-Cola stock, purchased in 1919, when the company went public, would have been worth $92,500 in 1997.

Actor Arnold Schwarzenegger bought the first Hummer manufactured for civilian use in 1992. The vehicle weighed in at 6,300 lbs and was 7 feet wide.

Americans consume 29 billion, or 58 percent, of the 50 billion aspirin tablets which are taken worldwide each year.

Americans spend more than $5 billion a year on cosmetics, toiletries, beauty parlors and barber shops.

Americans spent over $360 million in 1982 to avoid having bad breath.

Bayer was advertising cough medicine containing heroin in 1898.

Britain's first escalator was installed in Harrods in 1878.

BVD stands for the organizers of the company: Bradley, Voorhies, and Day.

Carbonated soda water was invented in 1767 by Joseph Priestley, the discoverer of oxygen.

Cheerios cereal was originally called Cheerioats.

Chewing gum was patented in 1869 by William Semple.

Coca-Cola was so named back in 1885 for its two 'medicinal' ingredients: extract of coca leaves and kola nuts. As for how much cocaine was originally in the formulation, it's hard to know.

Cocaine was sold to cure sore throat, neuralgia, nervousness, headache, colds and sleeplessness in the 1880s.

Colgate claims "Tooth Fairy" as a registered trademark.

Dismal first-year sales of famous products:
1. VW Beetle (U.S.)--sold 330 first year.
2. Liquid Paper--sold 1,200 bottles first year
3. Cuisinart--sold 200 first year.
4. Remington typewriter--sold 8 first year.
5. Scrabble--sold 532 first year.
6. Coca-Cola--sold 25 bottles first year. (For total of $50; supplies and advertising ran $70.)

During the Prohibition, at least 1,565 Americans died from drinking bad liquor, hundreds were blinded, and many were killed in bootlegger wars. Federal Agents and the Coast Guard made 75,000 arrests per year.

False eyelashes were invented by film director D.W. Griffith while he was making the 1916 epic, "Intolerance." He wanted actress Seena Owen to have lashes that brushed her cheeks.

For two years, during the 1970s, Mattel marketed a doll called "Growing Up Skipper." Her breasts grew when her arm was turned.

344 garycooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:29:30am

re: #111 Whale Watcher

I, too, used to admire Lance Armstrong. Then he abandoned his wife and small children for the sake of novel poontang.

Now, I think he is one step below pond scum.

I admit that I am hormonally ridden. That's cause I am a woman. That's why I know that women can be nutty as all get out but I don't care how nutty the woman you selected out of the crowd to breed with actually is, there are still ways to make things work so that you can stay in the home and help fully guide your offspring to stable and productive adult lives.

After you do that, go ahead and boink anything that moves. I won't say a word.

No, by then you're too old, and everyone's forgotten what a hero you are. Gotta strike while the iron's hot, m'lady! ;)

I've been happily married for 23 years to the same girl, and we've got two brilliant and beautiful daughters driving us nuts now, at ages 15 and 17. Nothing major, just normal teenage-stuff, but it's nerve-wracking. I can't imagine not being around to help herd these cats.

345 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:30:14am

re: #338 Bubblehead II

/To make him look all the more presidential, my dear

Mr Obama's aides say that it is relatively early in the general election cycle, but there is a growing anxiousness about why he is not doing better against Mr McCain, who has so far run an unimpressive, disjointed and at times shambolic campaign.

Hammer, meet nail. Better start campaigning in earnest John or you WILL lose the election

I've read about the ad in which McCain takes BHO to task for hanging out with reporters and playing basket ball instead of visiting the troops.

346 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:30:18am
"This is the moment . . . that the world is waiting for," adding: "I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions."

This is getting ridiculous.

347 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:30:53am

re: #300 razorbacker

Baaawaaahaaahaaa, er, urm, I mean, there's no call for that kind of divisiveness.

snicker* - Kerry kinda looks like he's filling in for Weekend At Bernie's part 6.

348 lori lane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:30:54am

re: #340 MandyManners

I posted a few links to his photographs the other morning.

A month or so ago, it was just a little gray, and the mSm was insinuating it was caused by the stress of the campaign. (poor baby). But I'm wondering if he had been coloring it all along, and now it's back to the natural color. Maybe he's older than we think. Hmmm. Ok. Ok. I'll stop with that. :)

349 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:31:01am

re: #335 The Other Les

I thought the Joker was actually...

350 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:31:47am

Since whites were enslaved in pre- 1865 US, native American tribes practiced slavery and black Africans and Arab Muslims still do...

351 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:31:51am

re: #338 Bubblehead II

/...there is a growing anxiousness about why he is not doing better against Mr McCain, who has so far run an unimpressive, disjointed and at times shambolic campaign.

Is "shambolic" even a real word? It doesn't appear in MY dictionary (Random House Webster's, FWIW)

352 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:32:19am
BVD stands for the organizers of the company: Bradley, Voorhies, and Day.

Jason?


Carbonated soda water was invented in 1767 by Joseph Priestley, the discoverer of oxygen.

Yousef ibn Priestley, I presume.

353 garycooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:32:25am

re: #320 Killian Bundy

No need for ipecac...just reading the press releases is enough to bring up breakfast.

The Dems are friggin' insane, these days. Seriously, they seem to have had a psychotic break with reality.

354 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:33:27am

re: #346 Ben Hur

This is getting ridiculous.

It's been ridiculous ever since the platitude-peddling empty suit became the Democrat nominee.

[Okay, "presumptive" nominee, technically...]

355 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:33:43am

re: #76 Maximu§

So the LA council has banned any new fast food restaurants from being built in poor neighborhoods in South Los Angeles. Traffic, gang wars, children being gunned down, pollution, lousey schools, a bankrupt city, car jackings and an invasion from Mexico and this is what the city council spends their time on?

LA bans fast food in poor areas

Way to go LA (which apparently has never heard of the free market).

Why doesn't LA simply ban **ALL** low-skilled labor in poor parts of the city?

Better yet, why don't they pass a law mandating that poor inner city denizens eat nothing but highly nutritious foods?

356 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:33:56am

re: #346 Ben Hur,

Obama's ego is going to need its own Air Force One. The man makes Mussolini look humble.

357 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:34:09am

re: #336 StinkHammer

Jon Voight speaks out.

[WARNING: The commentary surrounding the piece will likely incite vomiting.]

uh oh - a Hollywood actor not towing the standard Ivory tower leftist line. He's a "diseased wingnut".

358 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:34:18am

re: #346 Ben Hur

This is getting ridiculous.

GOT HUBRIS?

359 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:34:49am

Good Morning RW and coz..and Mandy..and FBV..and CIA..and did i miss anyone?
/ i ain't waving no 8 foot ribbon dancing in a nightclub Songbird...no way..well maybe for you.. :)
Sounds like the kids are having fun..

360 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:35:11am

re: #345 MandyManners

It's a start, but he needs to do more. Like unleashing the 527 attack dogs so they can rip Obambi a new one.

361 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:35:43am

re: #355 looking closely

Working on anything else apparently would be "keepin' a brutha down."

/facepalm

362 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:35:47am

Debra Burlingame making comfortable people feel uncomfortable...

From Gitmo to Miranda, With Love
By DEBRA BURLINGAME
July 30, 2008; Page A15

Captive Miranda, Lord knows I have not given a thought to the paperwork you sent me.

Let me tell you, Captive, that our release is not in the hands of the lawyers or the hands of America. Our release is in the hands of He who created us.

The poem, "To My Captive Lawyer, Miranda," was written by Abdullah Saleh Al-Ajmi while he was a detainee at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. No doubt, it would have given the former detainee, who was released in 2005, immense satisfaction to know that his last earthly deed was referenced in Justice Antonin Scalia's dissenting opinion in Boumediene v. Bush. That's the recent Supreme Court decision that gave Guantanamo detainees the constitutional right to challenge, in habeas corpus proceedings, whether they were properly classified by the military as enemy combatants.

Read the whole thing...

363 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:35:48am

re: #357 FrogMarch

Greetings, Froggy.

364 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:36:19am

re: #324 Killian Bundy
Sorry Killian - got suddenly caught up in a mini-drama - I'd expect the House DEMOCRATS for apologizing - wasn't it the REPUBLICAN PARTY in the guise of Abraham Lincoln who freed the slaves?
Wasn't it the Democratic Party that was responsible for the hateful Reconstruction post Civil War? Wasn't it the Democratic Party that passed all the Jim Crow laws down south and, at least in Urban Areas, wasn't it the Democratic Party that helped keep Black people on the dole so they could continue to keep getting Black voters to vote Democratic by simply increasing the amount of the dole every election cycle and who also prevented or at least strongly discouraged Blacks from bettering themselves?
Yeah, the Democratic Party has a lot to apologize for.

365 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:36:44am
366 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:36:54am

re: #352 Ben Hur

Yousef ibn Priestley, I presume.

Ibn Abu al Beardie


/runs and ducks

367 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:37:45am

re: #351 StinkHammer

You forget, the rules of grammar, like all the rest of the rules, don't apply to the dems

368 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:37:52am

Egyptian TV: Free speech causes terrorism

Your effen tax dollars at work.

369 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:37:55am

re: #359 HoosierHoops

Good Morning RW and coz..and Mandy..and FBV..and CIA..and did i miss anyone?
/ i ain't waving no 8 foot ribbon dancing in a nightclub Songbird...no way..well maybe for you.. :)
Sounds like the kids are having fun..

I could convince you to wave an 8 foot purple or green ribbon..

The big boys in our VBS love it because the dance is aggressive like waving a sword.

370 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:38:26am

re: #364 realwest

One thing US History classes these days teach is how the Democrats and Republicans shifted sides on the political spectrum.

/did they?

371 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:38:29am

re: #348 lori lane

A month or so ago, it was just a little gray, and the mSm was insinuating it was caused by the stress of the campaign. (poor baby). But I'm wondering if he had been coloring it all along, and now it's back to the natural color. Maybe he's older than we think. Hmmm. Ok. Ok. I'll stop with that. :)

I've not heard a thing that the MSM have said about. I'm glad someone's noticing.

BTW, if his hair turns gray over a few months out of this level of stress, how the heck is he gonna' handle REAL stress?

372 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:39:43am

re: #360 Bubblehead II

It's a start, but he needs to do more. Like unleashing the 527 attack dogs so they can rip Obambi a new one.

I hope he's gonna' let 'em rip soon.

373 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:39:46am

re: #357 FrogMarch

uh oh - a Hollywood actor not towing the standard Ivory tower leftist line. He's a "diseased wingnut".

I'm especially taken aback by the "two wrongs make a right" argument Wells (the blog proprietor) incites (in the comments) in order to justify his implied endorsement of blackmailing Republican/conservative Hollywoodites. Pretty vomitous stuff.

374 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:39:48am

Good morning Lizards....how's everyone today?

375 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:40:42am

re: #366 songbird

Ibn Abu al Beardie


/runs and ducks

Oh, he's adorable!

376 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:41:12am

re: #331 formercorpsman Hi there my friend! Yeah, the "First Americans" were - *gasp* people too! With all the nobility and savagery that comes from being a human being.
I really liked the way the Lakota part of the Sioux Nation treated their elderly - too old/to sick to move when the tribe had to move to new hunting grounds? No Problem! The tribe would just leave you behind to be food for the animials of prey to feed off of.
We really need to take off our historical blinders in this country if we are ever gonna get over the "Oh, you poor thing........here's a fish. I'll be back tomorrow with another one if I can."

377 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:41:20am

re: #373 StinkHammer

the operative word is "blacklisting"

378 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:41:42am

re: #363 StinkHammer

Greetings, Froggy.

Greetings!
Thanks for the Jon Voight link. Funny how Obama's insane friends and colleagues (Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger) register absolutely zero outrage from vapid Obama supporters. Instead - it's Jon Voight who is "diseased".

379 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:41:56am

re: #373 StinkHammer

"incites" = "invokes"

Oops.

...and here I am questioning the word "shambolic"...

380 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:42:07am

re: #332 reine.de.tout
Thanks - with friends like you..............! LOL! - Don't sweat it my friend.

381 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:42:27am

re: #376 realwest

Hi there my friend! Yeah, the "First Americans" were - *gasp* people too! With all the nobility and savagery that comes from being a human being.
I really liked the way the Lakota part of the Sioux Nation treated their elderly - too old/to sick to move when the tribe had to move to new hunting grounds? No Problem! The tribe would just leave you behind to be food for the animials of prey to feed off of.
We really need to take off our historical blinders in this country if we are ever gonna get over the "Oh, you poor thing........here's a fish. I'll be back tomorrow with another one if I can."

The Sioux were originally an Eastern tribe.
Wanna guess how they got so far West?

382 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:42:32am

re: #371 MandyManners,

It's the coke.

383 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:43:52am

Just a note going out to the lady in the red chevy van who almost took me out on my bike this morning:

I've checked the Illinois Rules of the Road and stopping at stop signs are not optional for you. You don't get to just blow through 4 way stops without so much as tapping your brakes and waive at other vehicles in the intersection as you fly by.

Just wanted to clear that up for you.

384 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:43:59am

re: #339 apachegunner
Hey Guns! Gee, long time to "see"! WTH are you doing so far out of the way?!

385 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:44:34am

re: #375 MandyManners

Oh, he's adorable!

He's our baby. He and is brother are the bestest lizards!

386 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:44:38am

re: #381 Capitalist Tool

Manifest Destiny?

/seriously wonders

387 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:45:16am

re: #378 FrogMarch

Greetings!
Thanks for the Jon Voight link. Funny how Obama's insane friends and colleagues (Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger) register absolutely zero outrage from vapid Obama supporters. Instead - it's Jon Voight who is "diseased".

There are quite a number of those respondents who openly advocate Socialism and worse.
They're honest enough to say exactly what it is about Voight's words which fluffles their feathers.

388 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:46:35am

re: #378 FrogMarch

Funny how Obama's insane friends and colleagues (Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers and Pfleger) register absolutely zero outrage from vapid Obama supporters. Instead - it's Jon Voight who is "diseased".

Yes, quite telling. Mere disagreement is not pungent enough -- opposition from the morally righteous Left requires loathing and categorizing as aberrant or sub-human somehow. Pathetic.

389 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:46:46am

re: #343 coz Hey coz - ya know, I think I dated the girl that the growing up Skipper doll was based upon, only it wasn't her arms that you had to.............um, nevermind!

390 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:47:08am

re: #357 FrogMarch

uh oh - a Hollywood actor not towing the standard Ivory tower leftist line. He's a "diseased wingnut".

Never fear, for Samuel L. Jackson brings us The Most Cliched Movie Ever Made!

Through all the subtle as a sledgehammer anti-conservative cliches in the review, this shining gem of idiocy (which isn't even about the film) comes through:

Jackson believes that in the PG-13 rated "Lakeview Terrace," like the rest of the world, race is both text and subtext, which may make the movie especially topical. "People will say they are not voting for [Barack Obama] because he's black, but of course they are. They have no idea what his platform is," the actor said.

You're right, Sammy - we have no damn idea what his platform is except for "hope" & "change"!

391 lori lane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:47:14am

re: #371 MandyManners

how the heck is he gonna' handle REAL stress?

i hope we don't have to find out. *sigh*

392 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:48:04am

What about Kerry and the penis straws?

Oh wait, WE'RE the moralizers.

393 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:48:11am

re: #387 Capitalist Tool

There are quite a number of those respondents who openly advocate Socialism and worse.
They're honest enough to say exactly what it is about Voight's words which fluffles their feathers.

If there's one thing I would love to say to an open socialist it is: "What? A hundred million dead isn't enough for you mother f***ers?"

394 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:48:17am

re: #359 HoosierHoops

'Mornin Hoops- how are things in the heartland today?

395 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:48:53am

re: #379 StinkHammer

"incites" = "invokes"

Oops.

...and here I am questioning the word "shambolic"...

Reminded me of this.

396 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:49:28am

re: #355 looking closely
Heh. Why do y'all think L.A. had an earthquake yesterday, hmmmmm?
/

397 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:50:22am

re: #373 StinkHammer

I'm especially taken aback by the "two wrongs make a right" argument Wells (the blog proprietor) incites (in the comments) in order to justify his implied endorsement of blackmailing Republican/conservative Hollywoodites. Pretty vomitous stuff.

Not surprising, though. The left-democrat group-think is all about making sure everyone is in the "club".

Jon Voight gets a hearty bravo! from me. Takes courage to rage against the hollywood machine. He may never work again. Meanwhile, I don't have the courage to place a McCain bumper sticker on my car. (Certain that the tolerant left will key-scratch it.)

398 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:50:40am

re: #393 The Other Les

If there's one thing I would love to say to an open socialist it is: "What? A hundred million dead isn't enough for you mother f***ers?"

Good point Les, except AFAIK, the total of all the various offshoots of Socialism is twice that number- and counting.

399 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:50:43am

re: #392 Ben Hur

What about Kerry and the penis straws?

Oh wait, WE'RE the moralizers.

BEN HUR

I called into Howie Carr's radio show in Boston yesterday and pointed out the penis straws which he hadn't noticed before. Yes, I said "penis" on the radio.

LOL

400 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:50:54am

re: #396 realwest

Heh. Why do y'all think L.A. had an earthquake yesterday, hmmmmm?
/

Because Maariv published the private correspondence between G-d and His Son.

401 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:50:58am

Stupid dumb F*ck. This happened just a couple of blocks away last night.

Woman shot in Twin Falls Tuesday night
Neighbors say shooting may be accidental

The woman may have been accidentally shot while a man there was cleaning a gun, Schmitt said. "As far as I could tell he was cleaning it and it went off."

/Such brilliance! Cleaning a loaded gun.

402 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:51:45am

re: #383 3 wood

Minivans are the devil.

403 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:51:45am

re: #399 loppyd

Penis gets a bad rap.

404 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:52:06am

John Ibbitson is such a drooling Obama fanatic, he doesn't even realize how terrifying his latest pro-bama op-ed sounds:

He almost blew up the world, but Kennedy learned - so would Obama

For 13 days in October, 1962, the planet stared at annihilation, partly because John F. Kennedy had performed so poorly as president.

Kennedy moved from the Senate to the Oval Office with none of the on-the-job training a president requires. That inexperience led him to authorize the never-had-a-chance Bay of Pigs fiasco.

He then let Nikita Khrushchev beat him up verbally at a Cold War summit, which left the American president so shaken that Khrushchev told his advisers he actually felt sorry for his outmatched rival.

Kennedy's inexperience and weakness led the Soviet leader to take the enormous risk of establishing nuclear missile sites in Cuba. Khrushchev gambled that Kennedy lacked the backbone to go to war over them...

But at the worst of the crisis, the American president calculated there was about a 50-per-cent chance of a nuclear exchange between the Soviet Union and the United States. That's how close we came.

Barack Obama, if elected, would become president with virtually no top-tier experience in government. America's enemies will try to exploit that weakness. There will be challenges, provocations, perhaps even terrorist attacks.

Mr. Obama may not respond well, at first. He will still be discovering which advisers he can trust; he may not yet have taken the full measure of his own strengths and weaknesses.

But if he is willing and able to learn, he will improve with time. No amount of experience can fully prepare anyone for the American presidency. To some extent, everyone learns on the job.

405 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:52:26am

re: #390 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You're right, Sammy - we have no damn idea what his platform is except for "hope" & "change"!

I don't understand your point...

I agree with him. A lot of people are going to vote for him because he is Black and for no other reason.

Why is that a shining gem of idiocy?

406 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:52:30am

re: #390 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"People will say they are not voting for [Barack Obama] because he's black, but of course they are...."

That's the fundamental strategic tactic being utilized throughout the Democratic Left and its minions: "If you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist -- whether you know it or not."

It will most assuredly become the standard meme if The Saviour happens to lose the election: "Racist America Defeats Black Candidate."

407 lori lane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:52:36am

re: #397 FrogMarch

Meanwhile, I don't have the courage to place a McCain bumper sticker on my car. (Certain that the tolerant left will key-scratch it.)

Same here in my town. One time my W
sticker drew some attention as I drove through a parking lot. The guy behind me kept honking at me and I'm sure that was the reason. Jerk.

408 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:52:55am

re: #403 Ben Hur

Penis gets a bad rap.

As Elaine Benes once said, I don't know how you guys walk around with those things.

409 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:54:01am

re: #404 Kenneth,

Wow! Obama might blow up the world, but think of how good we'll feel having elected him. This might be a new level of stupidity.

410 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:54:14am

re: #388 StinkHammer

Yes, quite telling. Mere disagreement is not pungent enough -- opposition from the morally righteous Left requires loathing and categorizing as aberrant or sub-human somehow. Pathetic.

The Left (and Barbarians in general) need to control productive people to assure their own survival and well being. Anything less than total submission has to be seen as an act akin to attempted murder. And thus it is no surprise that Lefties will respond viciously to criticism.

If Conservatives dealt with the adherents of Libéralisme Moderne the way the Left has dealt with humans in general whenever the Left has obtained unrestrained power, there wouldn't be any Liberals left standing. Of the universities and the urban centers of Liberalism there would be nothing left but smoking ruins, and there would mass graves from coast to coast.

In my own view the present day Left, like the unschooled barbarians who plagued civilization before them, are essentially parasites. If the Hun or the Mongol were to take "no" for an answer to their demands for food and other material goods they would die very quickly. Compulsion, taking things and persons by force, is inherently necessary to the parasite manner of existence. Those who resisted had to be killed as an object lesson for others.

The Left, the present-day literate post-marxian barbarians, not only need material support they also need spiritual support as well. Barbarian chieftains and tribal witch-doctors demanded degrading and often dangerous acts of worship from their subjects, up to and including human sacrifice, in order to assure themselves that they would still have a roof (or a tent) over their heads and food to eat the next day. Those refused to obey were worked over by the goon squad or simply killed.

In the classrooms and editorial offices of the Left the demand is for unquestioned agreement without regard to the actual facts of reality. The self-styled intellectuals of the Left are the first to demand “speech codes” and other forms of censorship lest they be identified as frauds and poseurs and subsequently bounced out of their comfortable ivory towers, no longer insulated from a real world that demands real thought and real labor.

The Left, being dependent upon others for their sustenance, must stand in opposition to the society of rational consent and openly support systems of compulsion, be it various species of Socialism or the witch-doctor rule of Islam, because to do otherwise is to condemn themselves to death.

Of course, in my view, if the Left would just die it would be nice.

411 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:54:27am

re: #370 laZardo
Did the Dems and Republicans switch sides on the political spectrum? Well one of 'em did; they are now the party of socialists and appeasement. Truman would be ashamed of his party (as would John and Bobby Kennedy, I fear).
AFAIK, the Republicans: fought to keep the United States United and a sovereign nation and have been more or less hawkish on that same issue since 1860.

412 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:54:53am

re: #405 rlevitin

What Stinkhammer at #406 said.

413 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:55:36am

re: #390 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You're right, Sammy - we have no damn idea what his platform is except for "hope" & "change"!

And if he gets elected despite that, I'm probably gonna "drink!" myself to death. (;

414 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:55:58am

re: #397 FrogMarch

Not surprising, though. The left-democrat group-think is all about making sure everyone is in the "club".

Jon Voight gets a hearty bravo! from me. Takes courage to rage against the hollywood machine. He may never work again. Meanwhile, I don't have the courage to place a McCain bumper sticker on my car. (Certain that the tolerant left will key-scratch it.)

In 04, I had three Bush stickers ripped off and my car scratched.

Unless McCain picks Mitt, I think I'll put something anti-Obama on my car instead.

415 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:55:58am

re: #382 Iron Fist

,

It's the coke.

Floating in the air or up his nose?

416 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:56:04am

re: #381 Capitalist Tool
Nah, why don't you tell us how the Sioux moved West (and what part of the East were the Sioux from in the first place?)?

417 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:56:27am

re: #406 StinkHammer

That's the fundamental strategic tactic being utilized throughout the Democratic Left and its minions: "If you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist -- whether you know it or not."

It will most assuredly become the standard meme if The Saviour happens to lose the election: "Racist America Defeats Black Candidate."

Then go ahead and prepare those racist allegations about me.

418 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:56:40am

re: #385 songbird

He's our baby. He and is brother are the bestest lizards!

You live Down Under?

419 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:56:53am

re: #412 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What Stinkhammer at #406 said.

Yeah, I get that.

But I think Samuel L Jackson is pointing that out in the quote... not supporting it.

He is indicating that for many Americans (i.e. libs and Dems), race is more important than anything else.

420 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:57:48am

IF Obama loses, AMericans will be the new Joos.

421 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:57:48am

re: #398 Capitalist Tool

Good point Les, except AFAIK, the total of all the various offshoots of Socialism is twice that number- and counting.

I don't want to cut the enemy any slack but 100 million is more believable than 200 million.

422 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:58:21am

re: #383 3 wood Hi there my friend - geez, are you ok? Didja have to fall off your bike to avoid getting creamed by the Red Van?
Didja by any chance get a license plate number or partial - cause, I mean, we'll all vouch for you not being part of that Critical Mass crew!

423 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:58:28am

re: #411 realwest

One thing history class is not afraid to explain is how the Democrats were pro-slavery and how Democratic Party machines were in charge of inner city areas during the early 1900s. Then things changed, which would take too long to "explain in the post."

The hardest lesson I had to learn in school though was when the "non-conformists" were in control, you either had to conform or face the consequences.

/bold very intended

424 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:58:35am

re: #415 MandyManners,

Up his nose. Coke ages you something fierce. Obama's admitted using coke, and he's never said when or how he got clean. I'd dearly love to hear a "journalist" ask him that question.

425 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:58:51am

re: #390 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Samuel L. Jackson Beer ~ How's it taste, motherf*cker?

426 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:59:15am

re: #397 FrogMarch

I don't have the courage to place a McCain bumper sticker on my car. (Certain that the tolerant left will key-scratch it.)

I'm hip. There's no way -- realizing the impetuous vandalization in which much of the left indulges out of "tolerance" and "understanding" -- that I'd risk my car's finish by emblazoning it with anything symbolically right of, say, "Coexist" or "Envision World Peace" stickers. Especially with the newly-opened local Obama campaign center located directly below my apartment.

427 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:59:17am

re: #424 Iron Fist

,

Up his nose. Coke ages you something fierce. Obama's admitted using coke, and he's never said when or how he got clean. I'd dearly love to hear a "journalist" ask him that question.

But no smack!

428 Karridine  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:59:46am

re: #424 Iron Fist

My money says: "Obama HASN'T YET! (gotten clean of coke)"

429 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:59:59am

re: #390 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You're right, Sammy - we have no damn idea what his platform is except for "hope" & "change"!


HEY! Go easy on ole Sammy - Obama doesn't know what his platform is, either!

430 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:00:08am

Here's a stunner, Amy Winehouse in and out of hospital again for drugs.

Amy Winehouse released from hospital

Winehouse was rushed to University College Hospital in an ambulance on Monday night (July 28) after she apparently started having fits at her home in Camden, north London.

Commenting on her release from hospital, Winehouse's spokesperson Chris Goodman said: "She had a bit of a scare yesterday because of a reaction to treatment. She was kept in overnight purely for observation. Amy is at home now after leaving with her father and manager. She is having a rest."

Some "reaction to treatment". If snorting blow qualifies for "treatment" then there are junkies all over in "treatment".

431 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:01:01am

re: #430 3 wood

She's dead by the end of the year.

432 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:01:05am

re: #390 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Everybody strap in."

Turn down your volume.

433 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:01:11am

re: #409 Iron Fist

Yeah, I mean, sure Obama will make mistakes (like abandoning Iraq to Iran & invading Pakistan), but after the nuclear ashes have settled over Tel Aviv and CentCom headquarters in Qatar, Obama will give himself a long hard look in the mirror and learn from his mistakes. Just like he learned he was wrong to oppose the Surge.

434 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:01:36am

re: #417 Capitalist Tool

Then go ahead and prepare those racist allegations about me.

As Groves said to Oppenheimer at Trinity: "We're all bastards RACISTS now!"

435 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:01:40am

re: #391 lori lane

i hope we don't have to find out. *sigh*

Same here.

436 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:02:26am

re: #426 StinkHammer

I'm hip. There's no way -- realizing the impetuous vandalization in which much of the left indulges out of "tolerance" and "understanding" -- that I'd risk my car's finish by emblazoning it with anything symbolically right of, say, "Coexist" or "Envision World Peace" stickers. Especially with the newly-opened local Obama campaign center located directly below my apartment.

My (lack of) God, that must suck!

I still have my magnetic Bush-Cheney '04 stickers.

437 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:02:35am

re: #406 StinkHammer

That's the fundamental strategic tactic being utilized throughout the Democratic Left and its minions: "If you don't vote for Obama, you're a racist -- whether you know it or not."

It will most assuredly become the standard meme if The Saviour happens to lose the election: "Racist America Defeats Black Candidate."

Assuredly.
When will the vapid left release their vapidity? Will we have to suffer with a president who runs to the left of Jimmy Cater just so that we can prove to the world "we are not racist"? Funny - I don't see any blacks at the helm in Europe.

438 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:02:45am

re: #416 realwest

Nah, why don't you tell us how the Sioux moved West (and what part of the East were the Sioux from in the first place?)?

That's with a sarc tag, right?

439 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:03:07am

re: #399 {loppyd} You said "Penis" on a radio show?!
Oh my stars, what is this world coming to?
Well, it coulda been worse, ya know, you coulda said "Co....ah nevermind! LOL!

What's up with Kerry and penis straws? I don't know that story!
Oh and - more importantly - how are ya this morning good looking?

440 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:03:28am

re: #433 Kenneth

And then they'll make movies out of it!

/talk about Hollywood profiting off of misery...

441 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:03:38am

On This Day In 1967... "Forrestal"- Another Heroic McCain Story

Well, yesterday actually.

Zis I did not know.

442 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:03:43am

re: #426 StinkHammer

I'm hip. There's no way -- realizing the impetuous vandalization in which much of the left indulges out of "tolerance" and "understanding" -- that I'd risk my car's finish by emblazoning it with anything symbolically right of, say, "Coexist" or "Envision World Peace" stickers. Especially with the newly-opened local Obama campaign center located directly below my apartment.

ACK! oh-- the horror. You have my sympathies.

443 Karridine  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:03:44am

re: #433 Kenneth

Yeah, I mean, sure Obama will make mistakes (like abandoning Iraq to Iran & invading Pakistan), but after the nuclear ashes have settled over Tel Aviv and CentCom headquarters in Qatar, Obama will give himself a long hard look in the mirror and learn from his mistakes. Just like he learned he was wrong to oppose the Surge.


DING-DING!

Well put, Ken! I was going to write this sentiment down, but YOU posted it!

/and with that, I'm gone Folks... its 2100 (9PM) in the quiet suburbs of modern-day Bangkok, and I get up at 0430 ... y'all man the trenches and the barricades, m'kay?

444 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:04:25am

re: #424 Iron Fist

,

Up his nose. Coke ages you something fierce. Obama's admitted using coke, and he's never said when or how he got clean. I'd dearly love to hear a "journalist" ask him that question.

I still want to hear someone ask Hillary the Big O' how she he feels about banning DiHydrogen Monoxide.

;)

445 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:04:30am

Good morning Lizards, one and all. Busy morning, I see from the O.N. thread. We here in L.A. had a nice reminder that we live in earthquake country. We don't get tornados, hurricanes, or even a whole lot of rain, for that matter. We do get shaken and stirred from time to time, however.

446 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:04:39am

re: #419 rlevitin

I think Samuel L Jackson . . .is indicating that for many Americans (i.e. libs and Dems), race is more important than anything else.

Could be . . . but considering that my understanding of Jackson is that he's a typical Hollywood Left-Liberal, I doubt very much that criticizing the libs and Dems is at the heart of his comment.

447 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:05:11am

re: #443 Karridine

Cheers and sleep well.

/10 PM across the South China and I won't be. q:

448 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:05:24am

re: #424 Iron Fist

,

Up his nose. Coke ages you something fierce. Obama's admitted using coke, and he's never said when or how he got clean. I'd dearly love to hear a "journalist" ask him that question.

I never got the point of sticking something up my nose in the presence of others.

People had a hissy fit over Clinton's BS about marijuana, and were quick to label Pres. Bush an alcoholic and coke-head. Yet BHO gets a pass.

449 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:05:35am

re: #421 The Other Les

I don't want to cut the enemy any slack but 100 million is more believable than 200 million.

Add in deaths at the hands of the Asian reductionists and those of WWII.
Surely Fascism and the National Socxalism were offshoots of Socialist thought.

450 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:05:35am

President Obama Continues Hectic Victory Tour

Honestly, do we really even need the silly election?

451 Clemente  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:06:01am

saving paper and ink:

Zimbabwe devalues currency; 10B becomes 1 dollar

Sadly, the zero they most need to be rid of, remains in power.

452 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:06:11am

re: #430 3 wood

Here's a stunner, Amy Winehouse in and out of hospital again for drugs.

Amy Winehouse released from hospital

Some "reaction to treatment". If snorting blow qualifies for "treatment" then there are junkies all over in "treatment".

I've never heard anything she performed played on any radio station that I listen to so I have to say that I really don't care.

453 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:06:35am

re: #418 MandyManners

You live Down Under?

Nope! Here in New Mexico in the U S of A

We merely own two Australian Bearded Dragons. Awesome pets!

454 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:06:52am

re: #414 loppyd

In 04, I had three Bush stickers ripped off and my car scratched.

Unless McCain picks Mitt, I think I'll put something anti-Obama on my car instead.

You are a brave soul. I don't mention my political affiliations to anyone in my uber-left-wing-nut county.

Assuming you are from The Bay State...aren't you required to vote/believe/worship Kennedy/Kerry/all things left? How dare you think for yourself!

455 FrogMarch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:06:55am

re: #414 loppyd

In 04, I had three Bush stickers ripped off and my car scratched.

Unless McCain picks Mitt, I think I'll put something anti-Obama on my car instead.

Anti-Obama sticker? That's going to provoke the same tolerance.

I leave my car blank. and every time I see other blank cars I think.... how devious!

456 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:06:59am

re: #425 loppyd

Samuel L. Jackson Beer ~ How's it taste, motherf*cker?

457 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:07:14am

re: #444 The Other Les

I still want to hear someone ask Hillary the Big O' how she he feels about banning DiHydrogen Monoxide.

;)

THAT has major Pay-Per-View potential!

"Senator, considering that DHMO is a major component of acid rain..."

LOL!

458 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:07:50am

re: #441 Ben Hur

Didn't know that about McCain either. But the flight deck film was used for damage control training when I was in the Navy. Kind of a what NOT to do during a major incident. Like washing away the AFFF with the fire hose, ect.

459 lori lane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:08:01am

re: #448 MandyManners

People had a hissy fit over Clinton's BS about marijuana, and were quick to label Pres. Bush an alcoholic and coke-head. Yet BHO gets a pass.

Yeah, probably b/c he outed himself in his book.

460 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:08:13am

re: #423 laZardo Well if y'all want to e-mail me, my nic is in blue, so you know what to do - and NO things didn't change - at least not the way you were taught!

461 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:08:22am

re: #453 songbird

Nope! Here in New Mexico in the U S of A

We merely own two Australian Bearded Dragons. Awesome pets!

What do they eat?

462 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:08:42am

10 Things to Scratch From Your Worry List

10. Unmarked wormholes.
9. The universe’s missing mass
8. The Arctic’s missing ice.
7. Deadly sharks.
6. Toxic plastic bottles.
5. Evil plastic bags.
4. Carcinogenic cellphones.
3. Forbidden fruits from afar.
2. Your car’s planet-destroying A/C.
1. Killer hot dogs.
463 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:09:01am

re: #459 lori lane

Yeah, probably b/c he outed himself in his book.

But, where are the questions about it?

464 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:09:30am

re: #401 Bubblehead II


The woman may have been accidentally shot impregnated while a man there was cleaning a gun his penis, Schmitt said. "As far as I could tell he was cleaning it and it went off."

Sorry - couldn't resist.

465 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:09:40am

re: #449 Capitalist Tool

Add in deaths at the hands of the Asian reductionists and those of WWII.
Surely Fascism and the National Socxalism were offshoots of Socialist thought.

And try telling that to the grossly misinformed youth of today and they'll look at you like you're one of the Four Yorkshiremen.

466 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:09:50am

re: #446 StinkHammer

Could be . . . but considering that my understanding of Jackson is that he's a typical Hollywood Left-Liberal, I doubt very much that criticizing the libs and Dems is at the heart of his comment.

It's possible... I just think it would be self-defeating for an Obama supporter to say "most people who vote for him don't know what he stands for".

While that anti-racism meme is definitely out there, they have to at least pretend he stands for something!

I prefer not to know what Hollywood actor's personal political leanings are. It can ruin good movies if I can't stand watching the actors/actresses because they are such LLLs.

467 kcladderman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:09:50am

re: #446 StinkHammer

That is what he is saying. You are not reading the quote correctly.
he is saying that the people who vote for Obama will say they are not voting for him because he is black. He then points out that has to be the reason because no one knows what is platform is.
Though Jackson is a typical Hollywood liberal

468 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:09:56am

re: #441 Ben Hur

On This Day In 1967... "Forrestal"- Another Heroic McCain Story

Well, yesterday actually.

Zis I did not know.

The History Channel did an excellent documentary on the Forrestal Fire. Not sure if it's for sale on their website (I taped it when it first premiered).

469 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:10:03am

re: #436 The Other Les

My (lack of) God, that must suck!.

It's so close I can smell it.

The only upshot (if one can be found) is the beyond-hot volunteer who mans the station. Yowza.

Unfortunately, her 1981 Toyota Hoopty (speaking of bumper stickers) sports a sticker reading, "Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Republican."

Were I of a more vandalish nature (and didn't recognize defacement laws) I'd be tempted to whip up a sign to place right next to it which says, "They INSIST On It."

470 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:10:26am

re: #422 realwest

Hi there my friend - geez, are you ok? Didja have to fall off your bike to avoid getting creamed by the Red Van?
Didja by any chance get a license plate number or partial - cause, I mean, we'll all vouch for you not being part of that Critical Mass crew!

Nah, I just locked up my brakes and skidded to a stop, I'm fine.

She was moving too fast to get the number. But I'm learning. I listened for the engine sound and when I heard her accelerate I instantly hit the brakes, that's what saved me from becoming a hood ornament.

But she was nice enough to wave at me as she blew by, so I got that going for me. :)

Then I got to work and did a live radio interview on gasoline consumption in the US, so I've had a full morning already.

How's the tooth, my friend?

471 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:10:44am

re: #452 The Other Les

I've never heard anything she performed played on any radio station that I listen to so I have to say that I really don't care.

She's a brilliant artist..I'm afraid she is headed towards the Hendrix/Joplin ending though..

472 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:11:13am

re: #438 Capitalist Tool
Ah, sorry!

473 StinkHammer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:11:59am

Okay. Gotta go start my work day.

Ya'll be good.

474 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:12:05am

Loppy wouldn't Howie love this?

The 4:02 p.m. collision damaged the front wall of Esox bar on Main Street and left the back window of the Kia smashed. The car was driven by Donald Wilder of Zellwood, Fla.

People passing by the accident scene were puzzled about how the accident occurred.

"How did this happen?" and "How did he do that?" were some of the comments from people who watched police clear the scene. Police said the driver "had trouble with the vehicle controls and held down the accelerator."

475 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:12:20am

re: #431 loppyd

She's dead by the end of the year.

That is a pretty safe bet.

I wonder how she likes her tune "Rehab" now?

476 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:13:26am
477 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:13:35am

re: #461 MandyManners

What do they eat?

LOTS of crickets. 1000 large crickets last a month. They also eat dark greens, some vegetables, and cut up apples are candy for them.

478 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:13:56am

re: #471 HoosierHoops

She's a brilliant artist..I'm afraid she is headed towards the Hendrix/Joplin ending though..

Not to mention the conspiracy theories and bad biopics.

479 kcladderman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:14:07am

re: #458 Bubblehead II

Didn't know that about McCain either. But the flight deck film was used for damage control training when I was in the Navy. Kind of a what NOT to do during a major incident. Like washing away the AFFF with the fire hose, ect.

That fire is the reason every sailor now receives firefighting training. The ships entire trained firefighting crews were killed in the first two explosions. There are several stories of heroic actions that day.

480 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:14:16am

Alright, I gotta do some low-tech work now...

Be back later this afternoon I hope!

byyye

481 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:14:46am

It's official: Climate Change Fanatics are Green Socialists

New and cautious calculations by the New Economics Foundation's (nef) climate change programme suggest that we may have as little as 100 months starting from August 2008 to avert uncontrollable global warming.

Nothing short of the rapid and wide-scale re-engineering of the economy will be sufficient. Radical change, though, is needed anyway because of the credit and energy crises; the latter driven significantly by the imminent peak and decline of global oil production.

No simple techno-fix exists that can reduce greenhouse gas emissions fast or far enough to solve the problem.

The answers are going to be economic, political and behavioural. Many countries, not just the UK, are going to need to learn the art of rapid transition.

Among the supposed remedies for climate change proposed in the article:

"a structural transformation of the regulation of the financial system"

"breaking up discredited financial institutions that have only survived through the injection of vast sums of public money"

"clamping down on tax havens and obfuscatory corporate financial reporting"

"to prevent inflation, we want to see much tighter regulation of the wider financial environment"

"establishment of an Oil Legacy Fund, similar to a highly successful Norwegian government initiative, paid for by a windfall tax on the profits of oil and gas companies"

"More realistic fossil fuel prices, raised to include their cost to the environment"

"make available the low-cost capital needed to fund the UK's green economic shift whilst having controls in place to prevent inflation"

No simple "techno-fix" will prevent Global warming, no sir... but a massive shift to socialism will cure everything. And it's got to be done in 100 months. Riiiight.

482 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:15:18am

re: #439 {realwest}

You said "Penis" on a radio show?!
Oh my stars, what is this world coming to?
Well, it coulda been worse, ya know, you coulda said "Co....ah nevermind! LOL!

What's up with Kerry and penis straws? I don't know that story!
Oh and - more importantly - how are ya this morning good looking?

Good Morning handsome....this should explain the Kerry/Penis straw connection:

Make sure you look closely at the tip (sorry) of the straw the girl with the red cup is drinking from...

Like I said last night, thank God my mother is out of the country and did not hear me say that on the radio. LOL

483 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:15:55am

re: #481 Kenneth

Watermelons! Know that for years. Nice for others to start figuring it out.

484 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:15:59am

re: #475 3 wood

That is a pretty safe bet.

I wonder how she likes her tune "Rehab" now?

I hate that song.

485 Pyrocles  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:16:21am

NPR was gushing over Muslim schools in Britain yesterday. These schools teach the peaceful "real" Islam, as opposed to the "false" Islam of terrorists, you see. As Robert Spencer says, terrorist Muslims have all of Islamic scripture on their side; while the moderates have only their own reason and goodwill.

re: #14 Killian Bundy

Muslim faith schools cause segregation, say teachers


/someone in Britain gets it

486 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:16:39am

re: #474 Peacekeeper

He would start with "stop me if you've heard this before...."

LOL

487 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:16:41am

re: #477 songbird

LOTS of crickets. 1000 large crickets last a month. They also eat dark greens, some vegetables, and cut up apples are candy for them.

One thousand crickets?! Wow.

488 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:16:46am

re: #482 loppyd

Good Morning handsome....this should explain the Kerry/Penis straw connection:

Make sure you look closely at the tip (sorry) of the straw the girl with the red cup is drinking from...

Like I said last night, thank God my mother is out of the country and did not hear me say that on the radio. LOL

And what kind of straws did you think a dickhead would use>?

489 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:17:54am

re: #452 The Other Les

I've never heard anything she performed played on any radio station that I listen to so I have to say that I really don't care.

The ultimate test of living as a free human being is to allow that same freedom to others. "Caring" becomes a dilemma.
Those truly free have realized and decided at some point that they so deeply care for others that they must act as if they do not care, affording others the right and freedom to learn the lessons they have set themselves up to learn.

490 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:18:00am

re: #481 Kenneth

Ultra-greenies are like watermelons.

Green on the outside, red and seedy on the inside.

/actually believed that sort of stuff back in 8th grade IIRC...

491 lori lane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:18:02am

Alrighty, Lizards. Time for the treadmill. Hold down the fort. :)

492 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:18:59am
493 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:19:04am

re: #481 Kenneth

And nary a dissenting voice on the comments section, some even say it's worse than this jerkstore is claiming. The UK is well & truly screwed.

494 lori lane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:19:27am

re: #491 lori lane

Alrighty, Lizards. Time for the treadmill. Hold down the fort. :)

Errrr...I mean, swamp?

/still learning important lingo.

495 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:19:38am

re: #488 JCM

And what kind of straws did you think a dickhead would use>?

ROFL!

Best line I've heard yet!

496 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:20:30am
497 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:21:03am

Amy Winehouse may be headed for an early grave but lets not cheer her on. May God have mercy on her.


/scold off

498 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:21:26am

re: #476 taxfreekiller

Curiously reminds me of this conversation from this video game I've been playing.

Lawyer girl: [rant about how government is oppressing the "disadvantaged"]
Main character: "I'm a criminal. I choose to live outside the boundaries of law. So your 'rights' do not apply to me."
Lawyer girl: "So...sue the government!"

On a side note, other conversations with that character imply that she is a defense attorney who has very likely dated her clients...

499 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:21:28am

re: #488 JCM

And what kind of straws did you think a dickhead would use>?

Looks like a bacherlorette (I hate that word) party.

500 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:21:29am

re: #495 loppyd

ROFL!

Best line I've heard yet!

What happened when Terrezza saw the pictures.

501 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:21:32am

re: #496 taxfreekiller

tfk thinks one or two of those girls are not legal to drink

some follow up would be nice on who they are and ages

Probably donors daughters...

502 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:21:41am

re: #468 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Hey did either you or Ben Hur send Fox News an e-mail about this (with or without the video from Gateway Pundit attached)?
It ain't too late to do so, you know?!

503 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:21:46am
504 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:22:12am

re: #481 Kenneth

It's official: Climate Change Fanatics are Green Socialists


No simple "techno-fix" will prevent Global warming, no sir... but a massive shift to socialism will cure everything. And it's got to be done in 100 months. Riiiight.

Great post. I got an email from a guy I know who's deep into this crap claiming that if we don't take drastic action NOW to stop global warming the ice caps will melt, releasing trapped methane gas that accumulated over millions of years and will destroy all life on earth.

I'm not holding my breath...or should I?

505 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:22:24am

re: #492 taxfreekiller

Kerry uses the penis straws because he does not have one himself.

No penis...no shame.

506 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:22:33am

re: #492 taxfreekiller


Damn, now I know what you are referring to.

I think it was Mandy who first posted that yesterday, I took a quick look, and wondered about that picture myself.

I just never asked, because I thought I must be seeing something, and to ask would have been asinine.

Damn, damn, damn.

Chicks are just as bad as guys, they usually just don't get the flack for it.

507 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:22:45am

re: #482 loppyd

You guys were saying that Kerry was using that straw? I only noticed one of the girls using it in the slide show. (pic #8.)

508 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:22:46am

re: #479 kcladderman

Remember that. An entire hose team running towards a burning jet wiped out when a bomb/missile exploded.

509 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:22:57am

re: #487 MandyManners

One thousand crickets?! Wow.

Yeah, besides raising the lizards, we have to keep the crickets healthy, too. I order them from Georgia.

510 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:23:07am

re: #504 Leonidas Hoplite

Great post. I got an email from a guy I know who's deep into this crap claiming that if we don't take drastic action NOW to stop global warming the ice caps will melt, releasing trapped methane gas that accumulated over millions of years and will destroy all life on earth.

I'm not holding my breath...or should I?

Give offering a penny on the dollar for his house, and he can go hide in the woods.

511 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:23:16am

re: #471 HoosierHoops

She's a brilliant artist..I'm afraid she is headed towards the Hendrix/Joplin ending though..


I'm reminded of when John Belushi was falling apart. It was general street knowledge that the guy was a major drug addict, heck they joked about it on the SNL set. I still remember the night I was at a bar on Rush Street in Chicago (during my single days) and Belushi came in with his posse.

I watched him openly snort coke off the table all night.

It was not a big surprise to me when he died.

512 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:23:25am

re: #506 formercorpsman

Damn, now I know what you are referring to.

I think it was Mandy who first posted that yesterday, I took a quick look, and wondered about that picture myself.

I just never asked, because I thought I must be seeing something, and to ask would have been asinine.

Damn, damn, damn.

Chicks are just as bad as guys, they usually just don't get the flack for it.

I didn't post it.

513 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:23:49am

re: #497 Peacekeeper

Amy Winehouse may be headed for an early grave but lets not cheer her on. May God have mercy on her.


/scold off

Agreed. I just don't like her poking fun at rehab so I dislike her.

514 opinionated  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:24:00am

Neo Nazi Pat Buchanan has picked the best VP for McCain.

And the winner is............. guess?

Although the winner has said and done nothing that merits an endorsement from such a POS as Buchanan, I have to admit that Buchanan has done him no favor as this candidate just lost favor in my mind.

515 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:24:12am

re: #508 Bubblehead II

Remember that. An entire hose team running towards a burning jet wiped out when a bomb/missile exploded.

The damage control chief taking a fire extinguisher up to McCains buring jet, while telling everyone to clear out.

516 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:24:14am

re: #507 laZardo

You guys were saying that Kerry was using that straw? I only noticed one of the girls using it in the slide show. (pic #8.)

No, never said that.....

517 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:24:28am

re: #484 loppyd

I hate that song.


Speaking of songs to really hate....

518 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:24:38am

re: #509 songbird

Yeah, besides raising the lizards, we have to keep the crickets healthy, too. I order them from Georgia.

You could make a killing raising crickets in New Mexico for other lizard-lovers in the area!

519 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:24:42am

re: #504 Leonidas Hoplite
What these morons don't get is, maybe the planet will wipe us out. Been watching a thing on the history channel. There was a mass extinction at the end of the Cambrian(sp) epoch, like 95% of all species were wiped out. Global warming is a handy red herring for the reds!

520 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:24:50am

re: #481 Kenneth

Know what we learned in school today Mom & Dad...sharing.

Don't you know that Obama would support their agenda...Green Socialism.

521 mglazer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:25:10am

President Obama Continues Hectic Victory Tour

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

As he marches toward Inauguration Day (Election Day is but a milestone on that path), Obama's biggest challenger may not be Republican John McCain but rather his own hubris.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

522 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:25:14am
523 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:25:26am

re: #504 Leonidas Hoplite

Great post. I got an
email from a guy I know who's deep into this crap claiming that if we
don't take drastic action NOW to stop global warming the ice caps will
melt, releasing trapped methane gas that accumulated over millions of
years and will destroy all life on earth.

I'm not holding my breath...or should I?

These people are in essence demanding an eviromental dictator to save the world from themselves. It's very scary stuff indeed.

524 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:25:31am

re: #509 songbird

Yeah, besides raising the lizards, we have to keep the crickets healthy, too. I order them from Georgia.

That can't be cheep.

525 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:26:10am

re: #524 sparrowlake

That can't be cheep.

Bad puns bug me!

526 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:26:14am
527 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:27:14am

re: #522 taxfreekiller
Dead on. Obambi has surrounded himself with some Class 1 America haters, communists, and asshats.

528 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:27:58am

re: #517 Golem Akbar

That video's "not available in my country," but is this a good substitute?

529 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:28:30am
530 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:28:36am

re: #526 Ben Hur

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE

Dude! I'll raise you a bud, and pack of wrappers!

531 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:29:51am

re: #497 Peacekeeper

Amy Winehouse may be headed for an early grave but lets not cheer her on. May God have mercy on her.


/scold off


I like her music. I liked Joplin and Hendrix, too. There's a (not-so very) fine tradition of these great and talented rockers who self-destruct at an early age. Shame, that.

532 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:29:59am

re: #504 Leonidas Hoplite

Great post. I got an email from a guy I know who's deep into this crap claiming that if we don't take drastic action NOW to stop global warming the ice caps will melt, releasing trapped methane gas that accumulated over millions of years and will destroy all life on earth.

I'm not holding my breath...or should I?

* * *
China's massively socialist/communist and more polluted than ever, though they absolutely control billions of peoples' lives.

533 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:30:03am
534 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:30:09am
535 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:30:20am

re: #530 JCM
Just legalize it dude. Everything will be fine man. Local libertarian at the mall the other day.

536 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:30:40am

re: #526 Ben Hur

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE

That's just being dumber than a Democrat.

537 songbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:30:51am

Have a great day, Lizards!

I have to go teach my VBS kids the rest of the Seaweed Dance!

538 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:31:04am

*sigh*

Congress pushes lenders into sub-prime lending.
Lenders sell loans they know customers can't afford.
Borrowers take loans they know they can't pay back.

AND WE GET STUCK WITH THE BILL!

539 mglazer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:31:22am

re: #522 taxfreekiller

I've never seen so many Democrats tell me straight up
"I would be afraid if Obama was the President"

540 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:31:48am

re: #526 Ben Hur

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE

LOL!

541 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:31:51am

re: #531 Golem Akbar

I
like her music. I liked Joplin and Hendrix, too. There's a (not-so
very) fine tradition of these great and talented rockers who
self-destruct at an early age. Shame, that.

To paraphrase Dennis Leary, "And yet everyone in Motley Crue is still alive! You could lock them in a room with a case of Jack Daniels & 5 pounds of coke & they'd make a friggin double live album about it!"

542 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:31:59am

re: #522 taxfreekiller

Kerry was bad, a liar, a fraud, a traitor, and a commie.

Obama is 100 times more a danger.


I agree. However, Kerry wasn't the rock star that is Obama. Kerry got caught by the media, because he wasn't their adored one. Obama seems to get away with anything, since the media just loves loves loves the guy. Er...sorry, not guy, but Lord.

543 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:32:19am

re: #512 MandyManners

Fair enough, it was just one of the tag lines that caught my eye, and I clicked the link, checked out the pictures.

Perhaps it was in the spin-offs.

544 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:32:45am

MOTHER F***ERS! My crack dental team, aka the Three Stooges have conferred on which of the two teeth should be pulled and they've decided that...........they BOTH should be pulled! Which means I can't eat on my right side of my mouth (if I get the teeth pulled). And I'm "short" two teeth on my lower left side because endodontists down here screwed up THOSE root canals and they teeth had to be pulled last year.
SHIT!

545 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:33:01am

re: #537 songbird

Have a great day, Lizards!

I have to go teach my VBS kids the rest of the Seaweed Dance!


Valley Beth Shalom?

546 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:33:09am

re: #511 3 wood

I'm reminded of when John Belushi was falling apart. It was general street knowledge that the guy was a major drug addict, heck they joked about it on the SNL set. I still remember the night I was at a bar on Rush Street in Chicago (during my single days) and Belushi came in with his posse.

I watched him openly snort coke off the table all night.

It was not a big surprise to me when he died.

* * *
Jimmy Carter was elected & Gerald Ford was defeated and humiliated by these druggie creeps who poked fun at a decent, honorable, athletic Veteran and public servant from Michigan.

Good riddance, substance-addled losers.

547 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:34:19am

I'm Shocked! Shocked!

Arabs Not Honoring Financial Pledges to Palestinians

Despite billions of dollars pledged to it late last year, the Palestinian Authority is caught in a serious financial crunch, mainly due to the failure of Arab countries to fulfill their commitments, reports said on Tuesday.
548 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:34:20am

re: #516 loppyd

Hmmm. Kay then...

549 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:35:00am

Hey jcm! SPD have arrested 2 critical massholes, and are looking for a 3rd. Attacked a guy while he was moving his car. A whole bunch of them were beating on his car and one of the critical massholes pulled a knife on the guy.

550 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:35:02am

re: #497 Peacekeeper

Amy Winehouse may be headed for an early grave but lets not cheer her on. May God have mercy on her.


/scold off

Well, I think it's actually the people enabling her by pretending that she's having a "reaction to treatment" who are cheering her on to her unfortunate by likely young death.

Having been involved in a few interventions in my time as a friend to the addict, one of the firs things that has to happen is the enablers have to wake up and stop asisting the addict. A good read on that type of thing by the way in my opinion is Wired by Bob Woodward about John Belushi. Belushi did a great job of surrounding himself with enablers.

I do pray for her recovery.

551 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:35:30am
552 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:35:33am

re: #544 realwest

MOTHER F***ERS! My crack dental team, aka the Three Stooges have conferred on which of the two teeth should be pulled and they've decided that...........they BOTH should be pulled! Which means I can't eat on my right side of my mouth (if I get the teeth pulled). And I'm "short" two teeth on my lower left side because endodontists down here screwed up THOSE root canals and they teeth had to be pulled last year.
SHIT!


OTOH, now you have the perfect excuse to drink your meals. Bloody Marys for breakfast, vodka martinis for lunch, scotch rocks for dinner. [good luck, really, and sue the bastards if they don't fix it right]

553 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:36:03am

re: #517 Golem Akbar

Speaking of songs to really hate....

Very hate worthy.

554 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:36:17am

re: #549 pingjockey

Hey jcm! SPD have arrested 2 critical massholes, and are looking for a 3rd. Attacked a guy while he was moving his car. A whole bunch of them were beating on his car and one of the critical massholes pulled a knife on the guy.

Missed that report, pulling a knife is a huge escalation. They do it to the wrong driver, and someone would get ventilated.

555 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:36:37am

re: #526 Ben Hur

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE

This is a clear example of our education system breaking down. It's apparent that his guy didn't graduate from HS....had the guy used a scale he could have got his bet correct...LOL

Only dopes use dope.

556 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:36:51am

re: #521 mglazer

President Obama Continues Hectic Victory Tour

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

As he marches toward Inauguration Day (Election Day is but a milestone on that path), Obama's biggest challenger may not be Republican John McCain but rather his own hubris.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

* * * *
Uh oh, snark aimed squarely at the One!

Maybe the WashPost isn't buying All The Presidential One's Mantra.

557 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:37:02am

re: #500 JCM

What happened when Terrezza saw the pictures.

eeeewwwwww

558 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:37:02am

re: #544 realwest

MOTHER F***ERS! My crack dental team, aka the Three Stooges have conferred on which of the two teeth should be pulled and they've decided that...........they BOTH should be pulled! Which means I can't eat on my right side of my mouth (if I get the teeth pulled). And I'm "short" two teeth on my lower left side because endodontists down here screwed up THOSE root canals and they teeth had to be pulled last year.
SHIT!

I think it's time for you to run, not walk, for a completely independent second opinion....and probably a new dental team! Good luck.

559 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:37:34am

She probably is surrounded by people who want money, fame, sex, drugs and nobody that wishes her well. Sad.

560 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:37:35am

re: #531 Golem Akbar

I like her music. I liked Joplin and Hendrix, too. There's a (not-so very) fine tradition of these great and talented rockers who self-destruct at an early age. Shame, that.

which brings to mind Shooting Star, by Bad Company.

561 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:37:52am

re: #554 JCM
Oh yeah. Can you imagine them pulling something like that in Sedro Wooley? Some log truck driver would wrap a tie down chain around their head!

562 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:37:54am

re: #555 jorline

This is a clear example of our education system breaking down. It's apparent that his guy didn't graduate from HS....had the guy used a scale he could have got his bet correct...LOL

Only dopes use dope.

As a doper once said to me: that's why it's called dope.

563 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:38:07am

re: #558 sparrowlake

I think it's time for you to run, not walk, for a completely independent second opinion....and probably a new dental team! Good luck.

I concur.

I am paying dearly now for poor dental work I had back in the 90's.

564 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:38:16am
565 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:38:18am

re: #549 pingjockey

Hey jcm! SPD have arrested 2 critical massholes, and are looking for a 3rd. Attacked a guy while he was moving his car. A whole bunch of them were beating on his car and one of the critical massholes pulled a knife on the guy.

Saw this, this morning. Driver apologizes for confrontation with cyclists, typical Seattle Subaru driver, got intimidated.

566 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:38:38am

re: #497 Peacekeeper

Amy Winehouse may be headed for an early grave but lets not cheer her on. May God have mercy on her.


/scold off


Hey..like i said she is a brilliant artist..And who knows?
She could become a shinning exampleof someone getting off the drugs and being an example of real rehab..
I wish her well..

567 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:38:51am

re: #560 3 wood

which brings to mind Shooting Star, by Bad Company.

And All The Young Dudes by Mott and Bowie.

568 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:39:44am

re: #565 JCM

Curious. What is this Critical Mass you speak of?

569 godfrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:40:37am

Move over, Merle Haggard, there's a Muslim country singer in town, and he's packing a post-graduate law degree.

570 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:40:50am

re: #564 buzzsawmonkey

They need to have a pledge week like PBS, with the Jew-eating bunny, Farfour and all the rest revived for the occasion. They can ask for matching funds, offer car swarm videos for prizes, and say "We really want to send more rockets into Sderot, but we can't do that without support from our viewers!"

The Arabs are not as stupid as they would have us believe. They know they can't trust the Palestinians with their money. Better to get the arms funding from Europeans, who still believe they are paying for the humanitarian rescue of the poor benighted Palestinians.

571 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:41:07am

re: #564 buzzsawmonkey

They need to have a pledge week like PBS, with the Jew-eating bunny, Farfour and all the rest revived for the occasion. They can ask for matching funds, offer car swarm videos for prizes, and say "We really want to send more rockets into Sderot, but we can't do that without support from our viewers!"

They can borrow some of Hamas' BHO phone-bank workers.

"Operators are seething by."

572 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:41:12am

re: #544 realwest

MOTHER F***ERS! My crack dental team, aka the Three Stooges have conferred on which of the two teeth should be pulled and they've decided that...........they BOTH should be pulled! Which means I can't eat on my right side of my mouth (if I get the teeth pulled). And I'm "short" two teeth on my lower left side because endodontists down here screwed up THOSE root canals and they teeth had to be pulled last year.
SHIT!


I'm so sorry real.

If there is anything I can do, if you just want to talk it through, you call me.

573 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:41:31am

OK, time to get some work done.

Have a good morning.

574 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:41:58am

re: #568 laZardo

Curious. What is this Critical Mass you speak of?

Critical Mass is a bicycling event typically held on the last Friday of every month in cities around the world. While the ride was originally founded with the idea of drawing attention to how unfriendly the city was to bicyclists,[1] the leaderless structure of Critical Mass makes it impossible to assign it any one specific goal. In fact, the purpose of Critical Mass is not formalized beyond the direct action of meeting at a set location and time and traveling as a group through city or town streets.

As some lizard said yesterday, Mad Max on ten speeds. They're anti-car and will block traffic and look for confrontations.

575 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:42:39am

re: #565 JCM
I am not apologizing to anarchist asshats. They think they are above the law. NOT! Luckily over here on the dry side we don't have that many. We do have a few ijits who insist on riding their bikes on roads with no shoulders, with tons of log truck, farm truck, semis hauling fruit etc...Plus Grandma & grampa driving 40 ft rvs. Like I said candidates for Darwin awards.

576 mglazer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:42:39am

re: #547 JCM

Shocked that Arabs are liars?

Thats what the frog said when he was dying after being bitten by helping the snake across the river on his back

The reasons why the libs want America to be run by Obama is simply so that it will wekaen the USA

The Libs want America to be weak - Obama will make us weak

577 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:42:46am

re: #562 Golem Akbar

As a doper once said to me: that's why it's called dope.

As an ex-pot smoker...I concur with your statement.

Hell...the way Oliver Stone's depicting GWB...I could have played the "W" role to a T.

578 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:42:50am

re: #572 3 wood

I'm so sorry real.

If there is anything I can do, if you just want to talk it through, you call me.

He's just lucky they're only his dentists...

579 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:42:54am

re: #565 JCM

Saw this, this morning. Driver apologizes for confrontation with cyclists, typical Seattle Subaru driver, got intimidated.

These assholes are the victims?!

580 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:43:05am

re: #546 alegrias

Jimmy Carter was elected & Gerald Ford was defeated and humiliated by these druggie creeps who poked fun at a decent, honorable, athletic Veteran and public servant from Michigan.

Good riddance, substance-addled losers.

I wish you would just come out and say what you think. You know, get it off your chest. :)

581 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:43:09am

re: #564 buzzsawmonkey

They need to have a pledge week like PBS, with the Jew-eating bunny, Farfour and all the rest revived for the occasion. They can ask for matching funds, offer car swarm videos for prizes, and say "We really want to send more rockets into Sderot, but we can't do that without support from our viewers!"

I'll be glad to send them some bombs, delivered from aircraft or missile, fuzed and armed. Would a 2000 lb JDAM on Hamas headquarters while they're meeting be good?

582 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:43:47am

Golem!

You ready for tonight?

583 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:44:09am

re: #504 Leonidas Hoplite

Don't hold your breath, lets' go drill those icecaps for the methane and make a killing selling it to China!

584 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:44:23am

re: #552 Golem Akbar

OTOH, now you have the perfect excuse to drink your meals. Bloody Marys for breakfast, vodka martinis for lunch, scotch rocks for dinner.

Unfortunately, that is not a good option for real, for several reasons.

585 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:44:32am

re: #576 mglazer

Shocked that Arabs are liars?

Thats what the frog said when he was dying after being bitten by helping the snake across the river on his back

The reasons why the libs want America to be run by Obama is simply so that it will wekaen the USA

The Libs want America to be weak - Obama will make us weak

Obama's an arugula eating surrender monkey.

586 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:44:33am

re: #558 sparrowlake

I think it's time for you to run, not walk, for a completely independent second opinion....and probably a new dental team! Good luck.

I agree.

Have they mentioned a temp. bridge? I had a front tooth pulled, and before the tooth was pulled, my dentist made a temporary bridge that was put in immediately after the tooth was pulled. Preserved my ladylike appearance, plus the pressure reduced bleeding and discomfort.

587 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:44:38am

re: #579 MandyManners
That is how they're trying to spin it. Remember, Seattle is Moonbat Central, Northern Sector.

588 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:45:17am

re: #559 Peacekeeper

She probably is surrounded by people who want money, fame, sex, drugs and nobody that wishes her well. Sad.

Agree 100%

589 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:45:19am

re: #582 WriterMom

Golem!

You ready for tonight?

Can't wait. Tomorrow's opening number is also eagerly anticipated at Casa Golem. You?

590 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:45:25am

re: #576 mglazer

Shocked that Arabs are liars?

Thats what the frog said when he was dying after being bitten by helping the snake across the river on his back

The reasons why the libs want America to be run by Obama is simply so that it will wekaen the USA

The Libs want America to be weak - Obama will make us weak

I'm shocked, shocked.....

591 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:45:39am

re: #547 JCM

I'm Shocked! Shocked!

Arabs Not Honoring Financial Pledges to Palestinians

If this keeps up, it would be the best thing that could happen for the Palestinian people.

592 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:46:06am

re: #261 eaglewingz08

This is one Congressional Bill I can certainly give my wholehearted approval too (considering it was an idea in my first post on the traitorous Boumediene Opinion):

You are viewing the following version of this bill:

Introduced in House: This is the original text of the bill as it was written by its sponsor and submitted to the House for consideration.

Text of Legislation
HR 6615 IH

110th CONGRESS

H. R. 6615

To provide for the transport of the enemy combatants detained in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Washington, DC, where the United States Supreme Court will be able to more effectively micromanage the detainees by holding them on the Supreme Court grounds, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 24, 2008

Mr. GOHMERT introduced the following bill;

A BILL

To provide for the transport of the enemy combatants detained in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Washington, DC, where the United States Supreme Court will be able to more effectively micromanage the detainees by holding them on the Supreme Court grounds, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,


SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ‘Giving Inmate Terrorists More Opportunities (GITMO) Act of 2008’.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.
Congress finds the following:

(1) The United States Supreme Court issued an opinion styled Boumediene v. Bush on June 12, 2008.

(2) Justice Anthony Kennedy, in the court’s majority opinion, held that foreign terrorism suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay naval base in Cuba have constitutional rights to challenge their detention in United States courts.

(3) This is an obvious effort on the part of the Supreme Court to micromanage the detainment and disposition of detainees in the War on Terror who are dedicated to destroying innocent people and the American way of life.

(4) The United States Supreme Court clearly needs increased opportunity to oversee the handling of the enemy combatants, as it has seen fit to take a greater role in managing the Global War on Terror, which is a duty previously exercised by the Executive Branch.

(5) There can be no better way for the United States Supreme Court to exercise its new self-appointed war powers than to house the prisoners whom it has taken a greater role in overseeing.

SEC. 3. TRANSPORTATION AND DETAINMENT OF ENEMY COMBATANTS.

(a) Transportation- The Secretary of Defense shall immediately transport all enemy combatants detained in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Washington, DC, where the United States Supreme Court shall hold the prisoners on the Court grounds, confined by adequate fencing.

(b) Shelter on Supreme Court Building Grounds- The Secretary of Defense, in conjunction with Justice Anthony Kennedy, the author of the majority opinion in Boumediene v. Bush, is directed to provide shelter for the detainees outside the United States Supreme Court building, but on the building grounds. The Secretary of Defense shall provide guards to watch over the prisoners and shall implement a system to ensure that the prisoners receive the appropriate amount of food and water. Should the detainees need the use of restroom facilities, they shall use the facilities inside the United States Supreme Court building. The Chief Justice, if the Chief Justice so chooses, may perform the duties of Justice Anthony Kennedy under this subsection.

(c) Guard Duty- If any of the nine Supreme Court justices desire at any time to stand guard over the prisoners, or to provide the prisoners with their meals or water, or both, then the justices shall be permitted to perform these functions whenever they want.

i agree or even better put them in with those world cant wait moonbats better than my idea of moving gitmo to the alaskan wilderness. can you picture them trying to figure out when to pray when you get all those days of daylight or darkness?

593 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:46:08am

re: #544 realwest

MOTHER F***ERS! My crack dental team, aka the Three Stooges have conferred on which of the two teeth should be pulled and they've decided that...........they BOTH should be pulled! Which means I can't eat on my right side of my mouth (if I get the teeth pulled). And I'm "short" two teeth on my lower left side because endodontists down here screwed up THOSE root canals and they teeth had to be pulled last year.
SHIT!

Morning RW...sorry to hear about the dental solution from the Stooges. I agree with Sparrow...time for a second opinion.

594 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:46:28am

re: #584 3 wood

Unfortunately, that is not a good option for real, for several reasons.


I would never seriously advocate that. But I do wish you well.

595 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:46:36am

re: #544 realwest

MOTHER F***ERS! My crack dental team, aka the Three Stooges have conferred on which of the two teeth should be pulled and they've decided that...........they BOTH should be pulled! Which means I can't eat on my right side of my mouth (if I get the teeth pulled). And I'm "short" two teeth on my lower left side because endodontists down here screwed up THOSE root canals and they teeth had to be pulled last year.
SHIT!

It's bad but not the end if the world.

/nowadays they have these newfangled dental devices called bridges or partial dentures

596 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:47:09am

re: #569 godfrey

Move over, Merle Haggard, there's a Muslim country singer in town, and he's packing a post-graduate law degree.

He's an Islamofascist mole.

597 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:47:57am

re: #591 Capitalist Tool

If this keeps up, it would be the best thing that could happen for the Palestinian people.

They really should take a page for the US Indian Tribes.
Gaza has some great beaches. If they had a the slightest bit of wit they'd be building casino resorts. Beirut was the European destination in the '60s and early '70s.

598 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:48:12am

re: #547 JCM

I'm Shocked! Shocked!

Arabs Not Honoring Financial Pledges to Palestinians

But notice down in the article ... the Arabs know how corrupt the PA is.

That's no excuse for the Arabs. These are their kinfolk. They should take responsibility for cleaning up the mess.

599 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:48:30am

> NOW THIS IS DRUNK
>
>
> A man goes to a party and has too much to drink. His friends plead
>
> with him to let them take him home. He says NO -- he only lives a
> mile away.
>
>
> About five blocks from the party, the police pull him over. They
> check¿½ his license and ask him to get out of the car and walk the
> line. Just as he starts, the police radio blares out a notice of a
> robbery taking place in a house around the block. The police tell the
> party animal too=C
> 2½ stay put, they'll be right back and they run around
> the corner to the robbery.
>
>
> The guy waits and waits and finally decides to drive home. When he
> gets there, he tells his wife he is going to bed, and to tell anyone
> who might come looking for him that he has the flu and has been in bed
> all day.
>
>
> A few hours later the police knock on the door. They ask if Mr. Smith
> is there and his wife says yes. They ask to see him and she replies
> that he is in bed with the flu and has been there all day.
>
> The police still have his driver's license. They ask to see his car
> and she asks why. They insist on seeing his car, so she takes them to
> the garage. She opens the door. There sitting in the garage is the
> police car, with all its lights still flashing.
>

600 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:49:14am

re: #598 pre-Boomer Marine brat

"But they can't be nearly as bad as the Jews Zionists!"

/

601 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:50:20am

re: #598 pre-Boomer Marine brat

But notice down in the article ... the Arabs know how corrupt the PA is.

That's no excuse for the Arabs. These are their kinfolk. They should take responsibility for cleaning up the mess.

If the Arabs took care of the Palestinians, then they couldn't blame Israel for everything.

602 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:50:30am

re: #598 pre-Boomer Marine brat

But notice down in the article ... the Arabs know how corrupt the PA is.

That's no excuse for the Arabs. These are their kinfolk. They should take responsibility for cleaning up the mess.

The Arabs look at the Palis, like a lot of Europe looks at the gypsies. If the Arabs didn't have Israel, they being doing the same thing to the Palis. The Palis are a convenient and expendable tool to use against Israel.

603 JCM  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:51:23am

Later.......

604 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:51:26am

re: #558 sparrowlake

I think it's time for you to run, not walk, for a completely independent second opinion....and probably a new dental team! Good luck.

* * *
RealWest,

Loss of teeth, root canals & implants happen to folks undergoing chemotherapy--a neighbor who's a survivor shared last night. Now has braces & unfortunately dental insurance doesn't cover entire expense of all the dental work.

Good luck dear friend, and may your dental team help you thrive through this.

605 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:51:45am

re: #589 Golem Akbar

We are freaking out, man!

But there is a consensus that the last round was fixed. I mean Mark-COME ON.

606 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:51:48am

re: #601 Kosh's Shadow
DING! DING! DING! We have a Winnah! The phakestinians are a great stick for the arabs and UN to beat Israels liberal idiots with.

607 3 wood  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:52:29am

re: #594 Golem Akbar

I would never seriously advocate that. But I do wish you well.

My bad, could not tell you were kidding. :)

608 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:52:31am

re: #587 pingjockey

That is how they're trying to spin it. Remember, Seattle is Moonbat Central, Northern Sector.

Somebody's gonna' die unless the cops crack down but, knowing how they reacted at the big global thingy, they'll do nothing.

609 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:52:49am

re: #601 Kosh's Shadow

If the Arabs took care of the Palestinians, then they couldn't blame Israel for everything.

Of course, which is why they let the PA go on and on.

610 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:52:59am

re: #605 WriterMom
What ARE y'all talking about?

611 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:53:04am

re: #569 godfrey

godfrey, he might sing in country style, but he appears to be a major taqiya funneling system...and all his videos on YouTube are being used for dawa type stuff.

612 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:53:19am

Good Morning all! It's still allergy season in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.

How are you-all this morning and what are we talking about?

613 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:53:21am

re: #597 JCM

They really should take a page for the US Indian Tribes.
Gaza has some great beaches. If they had a the slightest bit of wit they'd be building casino resorts. Beirut was the European destination in the '60s and early '70s.

True, if they had the slightest bit of wit and sense. They could be rolling in dough from those casinos. But, of course, it's easier to just blame the Jews and fire rockets into Israel, and then play the victim card.

614 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:53:32am

re: #597 JCM

They really should take a page for the US Indian Tribes.
Gaza has some great beaches. If they had a the slightest bit of wit they'd be building casino resorts. Beirut was the European destination in the '60s and early '70s.

Yeah, with lots of exciting unscheduled fireworks displays. LOL.

615 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:53:48am

re: #610 pingjockey

"So You Think You Can Dance", baby!

It's all the rage!

616 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:54:20am

re: #608 MandyManners
That was a Goddamn mess. Watched that lunacy on the Seattle news live and in color. Buncha frakkin' asshole kids. Spoiled brats of the worst kind.

617 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:54:33am

re: #603 JCM

Later.......

Have a good one!

618 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:55:23am

seen on fox earlier a moonbat anarchist group saying if they get 50 million to redistribute (the amount denver is blowing on security) there will be no problems at the dem convention they claim its not extortion

619 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:55:44am

re: #505 loppyd

Mah word, loppy! What's in your coffee?

620 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:55:51am

re: #615 WriterMom
I can't stand that stuff. But y'all have fun. The wife watches Idol. But then again she can really sing. Me, I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket!

621 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:56:09am

re: #550 3 wood

you hit the nail on the head.once you achieve a certain level of fame/fortune your handlers tend to like riding the gravy train.they will insulate you against the real world...until it comes crashing down around you.

622 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:56:20am

re: #608 MandyManners

Somebody's gonna' die unless the cops crack down but, knowing how they reacted at the big global thingy, they'll do nothing.

We have had people die from their antics here in Chicago. The twits hold impromptu, unsanctioned bike races on city streets while blowing through stop signs and red lights. An SUV driver hit and killed one of them a couple of months ago up on the north side. The riders, of course, blamed the driver. IIRC, the driver was not ticketed as he had a green light.

623 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:56:47am

re: #618 JimmyTheClaw
Saw that shit. The dude talking was spinning so fast, surprised the earths axial tilt didn't shift!

624 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:56:51am

re: #605 WriterMom

We are freaking out, man!

But there is a consensus that the last round was fixed. I mean Mark-COME ON.

I know. It probably wasn't fixed, but the best dancer was eliminated in a popularity vote. I still think the modern dance number with Twitch and Katee doing that very sexy/angry door routine was one of the best I've ever seen. It was not artsy/fartsy. It was hot.

625 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:57:02am

re: #572 3 wood Thanks my friend. I don't know what to do at this point. I'm apt to have some more, ah, radical therapy for my cancer in the not too distant future and I need to be able to eat to keep my strength up.
And I went to my DENTIST to do the root canal cause it's such an important tooth for me to eat, and the two clowns endodontists he sent me to last year EACH screwed up a root canal so badly that I had to have each of those two teeth pulled. So it's hard for me to eat NOW. Without those two teeth they want to pull, I LITERALLY won't be able to chew - and implants won't work for me because my bones are too weak from the cancer to hold an implant now.
And - needless to say - up until today's phone call my DENTIST has been saying that the root canal he did was just fine and dandy - I was only getting toothaches because I was grinding my teeth. NOW all of a sudden he's reached the conclussion that he didn't get all of the third nerve in that tooth so now it has to be extracted.
NOT to mention the expense and incredible pain involved in all this.

626 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:57:27am

re: #620 pingjockey

Super YUCK to American Idol and all the other stuff. I love the dance show...it's amazing...so inspiring-really beautiful.

627 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:57:34am

My Views on Iraq by Dave Kilcullen

the new strategy and tactics implemented in 2007, and which relied for their effectiveness on the extra troop numbers of the Surge, ARE succeeding and need to be supported. In 2006, a normal night in Baghdad involved 120 to 150 dead Iraqi civilians, and each month we lost dozens of Americans killed or maimed. This year, a bad night involves one or two dead civilians, U.S. losses are dramatically down, and security is restored. Therefore, even on the most conservative estimate, in the eighteen months of the surge to date we have saved 12 to 16 thousand Iraqis and hundreds of American lives*.

Kilcullen is the counterinsurgency advisor to Gen Petraeus and played a key role in formulating the Surge strategy.

* But even knowing what he knows now, Obama still would not have supported the Surge. Better 16,000 Iraqis & hundred of Americans should have died so he could claim he was right all along.

628 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:57:57am

re: #625 realwest

Sent you an e-mail. I used this Hotmail address I've been using since '98 (yes, that long!) so see if it might have ended up in your junk mail folder.

629 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:58:17am

re: #624 Golem Akbar

That, my friend, was SMOKING hot. And that song, Mercy, was totally perfect. I also think the make up and costuming is excellent.

630 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:58:59am

re: #625 realwest

He rw! Sorry to hear about your teef problems. I know I promised not to talk about it last night.

In my experience, dentists never admit mistakes.

631 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:59:13am

re: #496 taxfreekiller

tfk thinks one or two of those girls are not legal to drink

some follow up would be nice on who they are and ages

pic 3/9 is classic

632 godfrey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:59:31am

re: #611 WriterMom

Mamas don't let yer babies grow up to fight jihad
Don't let 'em crash checkpoints and blow up their trucks
Teach 'em some manners and that Mohammad sucks

633 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:59:40am

re: #613 Honorary Yooper

True, if they had the slightest bit of wit and sense. They could be rolling in dough from those casinos. But, of course, it's easier to just blame the Jews and fire rockets into Israel, and then play the victim card.

it's simple...they are basically a lazy people, and Israel and the west is partially to blame. The sympathizers have made up lies as excuses for them for so long, the lies have become truths unfortunately. They are the worlds street bums. "daddy, why is that man lying in his own peepee?" "well son, he doesn't know any better" and after you say this enough times, you start to believe it yourself. you forget that the bum likes laying in his own mess.

634 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:00:45am

re: #629 WriterMom

Is there a You-Tube link? Now, I want to see the dance routine. I don't watch enough television to know what to search for.

635 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:00:47am

re: #625 realwest

* * *
Dear RealWest,

I'm rooting for you and hope you keep up your strength through the pain & suffering.

Wish I could fix it for you out of respect & gratitude for your service.

RealWest's dental fund?

636 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:00:56am

re: #595 Killian Bundy
Thanks for trying to cheer me up Killian, but for reasons I truly don't understand, a bridge needs a tooth to hook on to - and as these are my two rear teeth there isn't anything on EACH side to hook a bridge onto, and a denture has to be custom made to fit - and we're talking serious, serious buckos here.

637 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:01:08am

re: #608 MandyManners

Somebody's gonna' die unless the cops crack down but, knowing how they reacted at the big global thingy, they'll do nothing.

Welcome to a world without rules.

638 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:01:25am

re: #626 WriterMom

Speaking of amateur talent shows...

How Do You Solve a Problem Like forcible confinement and assault?

TORONTO — While fans of the CBC reality show How Do You Solve a Problem Like Maria? waited to vote for their Maria, a 24-year-old man dangled from a hotel balcony, allegedly trying to escape one of the men responsible for training 10 Canadian hopefuls.

Simon Lee, musical supervisor and a judge on Maria, was arrested at his Hazelton Hotel room in Toronto's Yorkville neighbourhood around noon on Sunday after a man said he was assaulted and held in the room against his will, police say.

639 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:01:48am

re: #625 realwest
That is wrong on so many levels. If the asshats screwed up, they need to fix it with no charge. That said that doesn't do you a whole lot of good trying to eat and keep up your strength. Hopefully, all the positive thoughts and prayers from the Lizard horde will help. Damn, RW, this is one of those times where words don't cut it.

640 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:02:11am

re: #633 Spider Mensch

What was it Bush said? Something about the "subtle bigotry of low expectations"?

641 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:03:48am

GW slamming congress for its inaction on all the drilling proposals put forward.

642 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:03:56am

re: #626 WriterMom

Super YUCK to American Idol and all the other stuff. I love the dance show...it's amazing...so inspiring-really beautiful.

No way on Earth should Will have been voted off.

643 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:04:10am

re: #544 realwest

real,i feel for you.(woke up this morning with a nice swelling/throbbing on one of my molars,old r.c. tooth)let them do what they have to do.a bad tooth infection can really mess a person up.if ignored or neglected it can kill a person.you can always get replacements when your ready.(many dentists will let their reg.patients pay in installments)
the important thing here is YOU stay healthy.still want to meet up one day and buy you that drink!

644 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:04:41am

re: #640 ggt

What was it Bush said? Something about the "subtle bigotry of low expectations"?

You're very close - it was "soft bigotry".

645 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:04:41am

Ha! oxymoron alert. Dems and common sense.

646 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:05:17am

Severe Flying Pig Moment from Reuters posted in the Spinoffs section.

647 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:06:17am

re: #433 Kenneth

Yeah, I mean, sure Obama will make mistakes (like abandoning Iraq to Iran & invading Pakistan), but after the nuclear ashes have settled over Tel Aviv and CentCom headquarters in Qatar, Obama will give himself a long hard look in the mirror and learn from his mistakes. Just like he learned he was wrong to oppose the Surge.


Yeah, he's shown a remarkable ability to learn from his mistakes.

Remarkable.

648 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:06:22am

re: #634 ggt

Here's the Mercy number.

This is Twitch and Katee. Will and Katee did a fantastic contemporary number in another show.

649 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:06:34am

re: #620 pingjockey

I can't stand that stuff. But y'all have fun. The wife watches Idol. But then again she can really sing. Me, I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket!


The show is really something else. From it you can see what real dance is all about.

Case in point: I don't like ballet. Never have. Too feminine for my taste. As a kid, however, my father, a choreographer, took me to see the Russian ballet, the Moiseyev Dance Troupe. I saw and heard the most amazing things, great melodies, and very athletic and amazing dancing. It changed the way I viewed dance, ever since.

I really like dance routines that tell stories, that don't turn men into little girls or just props for the women. Check out a couple of good movies with excellent dancing, and you'll get the idea. Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, Singing in the Rain, Chicago...a long list of films that prove that men can still be men and dance.

The TV show So You Think You Can Dance doesn't feminize men. It's worth checking out. IMHO.

650 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:06:51am

re: #642 bosforus

Word. Will is an outstanding dancer...he is just beautiful.

651 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:07:14am

Treat yourself to the unintentional self-mockery of Obamanites

This is your brain on hope

Surprisingly, this as a pro-Obama ad paid for by Move-On. In it, the typical Obama supporter is presented as idiotic, hysterical bird-brains. Really.

652 mglazer  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:07:14am

re: #598 pre-Boomer Marine brat


Why should they!?

Their not as dumb as Americans and "modern" countries

653 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:07:21am

On FNC now, news conference about murdered female soldier. That spokesman IS NOT from North Carolina! Sounds like he's from Brooklyn!

654 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:07:50am

re: #638 Kenneth

That sounds like a lover's quarrel, no?

Funny how someone might not get that forceable confinement is not really romantic...although I guess it might be someone's thing...

655 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:08:07am

re: #604 alegrias Thank you alegrias, but it's one member of my dental team who has put me in this bind.
Where'd I put Mr. Mossberg................


JUST KIDDING ALL Y'ALL!

656 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:08:09am

re: #260 3 wood

Speaking of Notre Dame, former Domer Samardzija is up now in the bigs with the Cubs as a relief pitcher. He has a nasty 95 - 97 mph 2 seam fastball that makes the hitters want to throw up.

If he can just throw strikes he will be something special. Kerry Wood might want to start checking his pension plan.

That kid is a can't miss if he stays healthy.

657 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:08:14am

rw -- I had my own experiences with dentists a few years ago. I had a hard time even researching what was going on because of the lack of real information on the internet. I came to the conclusion that since there really isn't any dental insurance available (comparable to medical insurance) there isn't any money for research.

Dental schools are few and far between (only 2 in Illinois)--another reason for lack of research. It's hard to tell what is real science and wanna-be science in dentistry. There are a lot of "snake-oil" salesmen and so-called professional organizations in the dental world that are "off the wall".

Finally, I drove to the Univ of Illinois Dental school in Chicago and got a straight answer I could understand. I had to wait a few weeks to get in, insurance didn't pay, but it was worth it.

658 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:08:33am

re: #641 pingjockey

GW slamming congress for its inaction on all the drilling proposals put forward.

* * *
Pres. Bush ought to be mad, the NRDC put out a horrible cartoon of Pres. Bush as an old timey 100% Snake Oil salesman in a top hat today in the Washington Post Express and possibly other papers.

"George W. Bush's
Gasoline Price Elixir

[offensive cartoon]

100% Snake Oil
Offshore Oil Drilling
May Save Pennies - In Just Twenty Years - Worth The Risk

George W. Bush
A Name You Can Trust"

(Paid for by supporters of teh Natural Resources "Defense" Council Action Fund)

659 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:09:09am

re: #644 Ward Cleaver

closer than usual --I thought that statement was wonderful.

660 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:09:13am

re: #656 opnion
Ahh! Cubs fans, the eternal optomists.

661 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:09:56am

re: #650 WriterMom

Word. Will is an outstanding dancer...he is just beautiful.

I didn't see last Wednesday's or the results show but I was told Nigel was spot on when he said that sometimes the voters take the good dancers for granted. Will will do just fine on his own without winning. Guess I'm pulling for Twitch now. And Katee.

662 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:10:12am

The time that FedEx and UPS show up is inversely related to the importance of the package.

/never fails

663 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:10:19am

re: #658 alegrias
Sounds like more neo-luddite socialist marxist ijits.

664 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:10:24am

re: #649 Golem Akbar

Golem-that's absolutely right, I mean, what woman does not love a man who can lead? Seriously-women need more men who can lead on the dance floor and elsewhere. Look at those salsa dances-the woman is aware of her sexuality and power, but the man is definitely in the driver's seat. Same with most of the contemporary numbers-such passion, but not pornographic in any way.

665 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:10:40am

re: #636 realwest

Thanks for trying to cheer me up Killian, but for reasons I truly don't understand, a bridge needs a tooth to hook on to - and as these are my two rear teeth there isn't anything on EACH side to hook a bridge onto, and a denture has to be custom made to fit - and we're talking serious, serious buckos here.

RW, how about putting one dental implant in the back, to hook the bridge onto?

666 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:10:40am

re: #654 WriterMom

If I cared, & I don't, I'm sure the court case will prove revealing. I recall how Madonna accused Sean Penn of forcible confinement & assault during their brief marriage.

667 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:11:22am

re: #661 bosforus

I hope Katee wins, she's just a pleasure to watch, and I bet she'd make an excellent choreographer, too.

668 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:11:44am

re: #666 Kenneth

Ya-I agree...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

669 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:11:47am

re: #635 alegrias
Thank you my friend - BUT PLEASE, NO DENTAL FUND FOR ME.
Other folks have worse problems and I wouldn't accept any help from LGFer's.

670 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:12:32am

re: #659 ggt

closer than usual --I thought that statement was wonderful.

Me too, but it's lost on the libs.

671 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:13:49am

re: #661 bosforus

I didn't see last Wednesday's or the results show but I was told Nigel was spot on when he said that sometimes the voters take the good dancers for granted. Will will do just fine on his own without winning. Guess I'm pulling for Twitch now. And Katee.

My money's on Katee, but Twitch is really talented. All of them (including Mark) are very good dancers. I think the best part of the show is that the choreography (and music) is so excellent, and all the dancers really look great.

672 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:13:54am

re: #648 WriterMom

Thanks, that was fantastic! I'm not always impressed by "music video" dancing, but that was excellent.

That guy's jump toward the end defied gravity.

673 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:14:10am

re: #639 pingjockey
Thanks for the kind words pingjockey, they are appreciated.

674 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:14:21am

re: #654 WriterMom

That sounds like a lover's quarrel, no?

Funny how someone might not get that forceable confinement is not really romantic...although I guess it might be someone's thing...


Or it could be a side effect of the whole "everybody's gay if they'd only try it" syndrome.

And the guy said, "No."

675 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:14:47am

re: #664 WriterMom

one of the reasons i like watching old movies(circa 30's,40's)there seemed a certain elegence that is missing.the way they dressed,heck even little things like cigarette cases.

676 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:14:54am

re: #651 Kenneth

Hope is a disease!?

/uninfected and miserable... lol

677 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:14:54am

re: #618 JimmyTheClaw

seen on fox earlier a moonbat anarchist group saying if they get 50 million to redistribute (the amount denver is blowing on security) there will be no problems at the dem convention they claim its not extortion

WTF? Got a link?

678 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:14:56am

re: #662 Killian Bundy

The time that FedEx and UPS show up is inversely related to the importance of the package.

/never fails

At least with FedEx and UPS, the package shows up. Can't always say the same about the USPS.

/Neither rain nor shine nor the cushiness of the mail truck will keep us from doing our jobs as half-assly as possible.

679 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:14:59am

re: #641 pingjockey
Uh, if y'all don't mind, could we NOT talk about DRILLING right now, hmmmm? LOL!

680 Colonel Panik  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:15:11am

re: #529 buzzsawmonkey

That's stock, bond and currency villain.

LOL!

681 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:16:15am

re: #674 Ben Hur

LOL. BenHur, you missed my lebanese story from yesterday.

682 kansas  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:16:29am

During our lives we’re faced with so many elements as well, we experience so many setbacks, and fight such a hand-to-hand battle with failure, head down in the rain, just trying to stay upright and have a little hope.

— Lance Armstrong

Well, I'm certainly glad it's not just me noticing that for 60 years now.

683 AKAK  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:16:32am

re: #646 laZardo

Tell me about it, just saw this poll and thought results would be exact opposite.


How do you feel about the Afghan civilian deaths?
(78%)It's tragic but Cdn troops responded correctly
(22%)It's unacceptable, they should have been more careful

from Yahoo

Another not surprising link:

[Link: osint.internet-haganah.com...]
Goats/Boys/Women after all
PBUH (piss be upon him)

684 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:16:40am

re: #679 realwest

Hump day ends in about 45 minutes where I am, at least...

685 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:17:01am

re: #643 Boondock St. Bender Well at this point I ain't sure who's gonna pay, but I'm looking at that Dentist for sure.
But the fact is my health is already SHOT. If y'all are having dental problems, get your ass to a GOOD dentist ASAP.
And thanks for your kind words.

686 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:17:19am

re: #675 Boondock St. Bender

You know, that's apparently part of the romance with the series "Mad Men", although I haven't seen it. Even liberals are intoxicated of a time when roles were more clearly defined.

687 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:17:21am

re: #664 WriterMom

Golem-that's absolutely right, I mean, what woman does not love a man who can lead? Seriously-women need more men who can lead on the dance floor and elsewhere. Look at those salsa dances-the woman is aware of her sexuality and power, but the man is definitely in the driver's seat. Same with most of the contemporary numbers-such passion, but not pornographic in any way.

Exactly so. Passion. Good dancing is very exciting and not prurient. But people need to be exposed to the good stuff to really understand it. That's why I believe shows like this are so important. I hope it lasts.

688 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:17:25am

re: #671 Golem Akbar

I thought a boy and a girl won. Shows what I know. I only watch the show due to a marital side effect, yet I enjoy it when I watch it. My wife's really into it. But I would put my money on Katee.
-she just called and told me her sister's dog, a border collie with a history of seizures, had a stroke :(

689 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:17:44am

re: #683 AKAK

Perhaps it's because most of the leftists I know actually support the campaign in Afghanistan as well...

690 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:17:46am

re: #511 3 wood

I'm reminded of when John Belushi was falling apart. It was general street knowledge that the guy was a major drug addict, heck they joked about it on the SNL set. I still remember the night I was at a bar on Rush Street in Chicago (during my single days) and Belushi came in with his posse.

I watched him openly snort coke off the table all night.

It was not a big surprise to me when he died.

Butch McGuires, huh?

691 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:17:46am

re: #618 JimmyTheClaw

some judicious money spent on roit gear and police o.t.will ensure there are no monkeyshines as well.and much cheaper than the 50 mil.

692 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:17:55am

Regarding the return of the reparations scam. How many Americans died to end slavery? Who do we send that bill to?

693 kansas  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:18:00am

I was thinking I'd like to get some of this dough they're handing out. Any ideas? I pretty much ready for someone else to make my house and car payments. Anyone? Buehler?

694 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:18:07am
695 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:18:08am

re: #672 ggt

There have been some other Bollywood numbers that were awesome. Check it out tonight if you can...I think it's on Fox.

696 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:18:36am

re: #692 lifeofthemind

Regarding the return of the reparations scam. How many Americans died to end slavery? Who do we send that bill to?

Thousands upon thousands.

697 Colonel Panik  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:18:48am

re: #574 JCM

As some lizard said yesterday, Mad Max on ten speeds. They're anti-car and will block traffic and look for confrontations.

That was me. I also refer to them as Orcs on Bikes.

698 kansas  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:19:18am

re: #693 kansas

I was thinking I'd like to get some of this dough they're handing out. Any ideas? I'm pretty much ready for someone else to make my house and car payments. Anyone? Buehler?

699 kansas  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:20:49am

OK, no one?

700 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:21:08am

re: #686 WriterMom

You know, that's apparently part of the romance with the series "Mad Men", although I haven't seen it. Even liberals are intoxicated of a time when roles were more clearly defined.


Mad Men is another gem on TV. The nice thing about it is that it takes it's time to tell the story, but the characters are really interesting. I don't see any politics in it, in any way. Another plus.

701 UFO TOFU  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:21:09am

re: #658 alegrias
The irony of a "snake oil" cartoon coming from the NRDC is just too much.

702 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:21:21am

re: #694 buzzsawmonkey

lol,true.

703 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:21:41am

re: #690 opnion

Butch McGuires, huh?

Loved the Original Pancake House on Rush and in Hyde Park. Thought it odd that they were closed during Rush street's busiest hours. Really love the 49ers and the baked apple. MMMMMMMM

704 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:21:50am

President Obama Continues Hectic Victory Tour

Inside, according to a witness, he told the House members, "This is the moment . . . that the world is waiting for," adding: "I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions."

As he marches toward Inauguration Day (Election Day is but a milestone on that path), Obama's biggest challenger may not be Republican John McCain but rather his own hubris.

Obama can't be thrown under the bus at this time...head won't fit.

705 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:22:01am

re: #699 kansas

OK, no one?

Just show up wearing black. They'll know you're either;

A) An anarchist
B) A fan of Johnny Cash

706 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:22:16am

re: #692 lifeofthemind

Regarding the return of the reparations scam. How many Americans died to end slavery? Who do we send that bill to?

Uh huh, but those crackers don't make Michelle proud.
I am surrounded by Union cemeteries, 18, 19 year olds, but hey, how about reparations?

707 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:22:58am

Are there any anarchists that don't live in their mom's basement?

708 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:23:41am

re: #703 lifeofthemind

Loved the Original Pancake House on Rush and in Hyde Park. Thought it odd that they were closed during Rush street's busiest hours. Really love the 49ers and the baked apple. MMMMMMMM


Know the one on Rush. Great food, but sometimes lines.

709 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:23:43am

re: #698 kansas

I was thinking I'd like to get some of this dough they're handing out. Any ideas? I'm pretty much ready for someone else to make my house and car payments. Anyone? Buehler?

I hear that BO campaign workers are getting first crack at the money.

710 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:24:03am

re: #707 ggt

Are there any anarchists that don't live in their mom's basement?

Only the ones that live in a friend's mom's basement.

711 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:24:07am

re: #688 bosforus

I thought a boy and a girl won. Shows what I know. I only watch the show due to a marital side effect, yet I enjoy it when I watch it. My wife's really into it. But I would put my money on Katee.
-she just called and told me her sister's dog, a border collie with a history of seizures, had a stroke :(


Sorry to hear about the dog. My daughter and SIL have a border collie. Very smart dogs. Very loyal, too.

712 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:24:09am

re: #701 UFO TOFU
These are some of the same assholes who won't let us log. We have a beetle infestation going on here in the NW. You go in log the beetle killed trees, thin the forest out and you don't get catastrophic forest fires. But of course the know nothings don't want any logging. Sonsabitches.

713 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:24:13am

re: #657 ggt

rw -- I had my own experiences with dentists a few years ago. I had a hard time even researching what was going on because of the lack of real information on the internet. I came to the conclusion that since there really isn't any dental insurance available (comparable to medical insurance) there isn't any money for research.

Dental schools are few and far between (only 2 in Illinois)--another reason for lack of research. It's hard to tell what is real science and wanna-be science in dentistry. There are a lot of "snake-oil" salesmen and so-called professional organizations in the dental world that are "off the wall".

Finally, I drove to the Univ of Illinois Dental school in Chicago and got a straight answer I could understand. I had to wait a few weeks to get in, insurance didn't pay, but it was worth it.

Well, nationally speaking there are at least 50 dental schools (and I think many more).

There is little connection between the availability of dental insurance and the availability (or lack thereof) of grant money for dental research, but suffice it to say there is plenty of good dental research going on at the top-level dental teaching institutions. Like any professional field, there are always a few good people who stand out among peers. (And like any clinical research intersection, the best researchers are often not the best clinicians and vice versa).

For reasons that should be obvious, you aren't going to be able to come up with quick and easy answers to real dental (or most medical) problems on the internet. Your best bet that way is to use the internet to locate key professionals (hopefully local) with whom you might discuss your individual case, as you did.

Lastly, not to put too fine a point in this, but within the field of doctorate-level medical professionals, dentists aren't exactly the "bestest and brightest" of the lot. While again, there are always outstanding individuals within any field, dentistry in particular is know for its share of individuals with better technical skills (drilling and filling) than real medical knowledge.

714 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:24:26am

re: #707 ggt

but if they didn't,they'd be part of the whole messed up system.maaaaan.

715 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:24:27am
716 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:24:32am

re: #657 ggt Thanks for the idea ggt - I don't even know if there's a dental school in my area, but I'm gonna check.
Although I do understand WHY these three crooks dental specialists (Oral Surgeon, Endodontist and Dentist/cosmetic dentistry) are saying both teeth should be pulled. Just called Dentist and said "How come for three months now you've been saying that the root canal you did was ok, now it's not?" He says he's still not sure it's not good, but that Oral Surgeon knows how much SERIOUS DAMN PAIN I go through with any extraction and figured we should pull 'em both contemporaneously and minimize the pain of having to go back in to pull the second tooth. I have a call into the Oral Surgeon NOW.
I'm upset, but right now I'm more ANGRY than upset.
They say the rearmost upper tooth (which had a perfectly normal root canal 15 years ago) is probably fractured. I said are teeth like bones? Said yes they are. I said so why don't any of the numerous X-Rays you've taken show any fracture?
"Well sometimes these don't show up on X-ray's".

HAVE ANY OF Y'ALL had a fractured bone where the fracture didn't show up on the X-rays? Anyone?
Bueller?

717 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:26:14am

re: #716 realwest

I've been an ice-cruncher for years and they say there's supposed to be microfractures slowly showing up in my teeth because of it. Hmm.

718 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:26:26am

re: #696 Honorary Yooper

Thousands upon thousands.

Maybe 1 in 50 Americans died and up to 2 in 50 Americans were wounded.
think of the equivalent numbers for today's population.

719 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:26:29am

re: #711 Golem Akbar

I had a seizure dog that had a stroke a few years ago. She ended-up being fine. Took a while for her brain to re-wire --she'd walk into walls and stuff. Luckily, she was up and around right a way and overcame it. Lived for many days and was chasing the ball to the end.

Best wishes to your SIL.

720 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:26:38am

re: #716 realwest
Never. And I've had numerous(6) green stick fractures from work, playing ball, etc...

721 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:26:46am

re: #665 Ward Cleaver
Ward, my bones are too weak from the cancer to be able to take an implant - and even if they weren't so weak, the three stooges all agree that you have to wait 9months to a year after pulling a tooth to even think about an implant.
So I'm just SCREWED.

722 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:27:40am

re: #706 opnion

Uh huh, but those crackers don't make Michelle proud.
I am surrounded by Union cemeteries, 18, 19 year olds, but hey, how about reparations?

Why is everyone against repatriations?
If the descendants of slaves really want to be repatriated then the government should pay the freight.

723 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:27:43am

re: #715 buzzsawmonkey

What about people whose ancestors came over as indentured servants? Should they get reparations as well?

724 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:27:54am

re: #717 laZardo

I've been an ice-cruncher for years and they say there's supposed to be microfractures slowly showing up in my teeth because of it. Hmm.

Me too, and the only cracked tooth (back molar) I've had was caused by an old amalgam filling expanding and contracting over a period of 25 years. It's now a gold crown.

725 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:27:59am

re: #715 buzzsawmonkey

WOW - that made my head hurt!

...and it sounds like the perfect job for a whole new and expensive government agency. :-(

726 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:28:11am

Gonna head to bed and [insert hope-based substitute word here] that I haven't suddenly warped to January 2009 after an Obama victory at the elections.

/hurrrrrrrrrrrr.

727 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:28:27am

re: #716 realwest

It can happen. Some X-rays have limited resolution and might not catch a thin fracture. Such a fracture might be visible from one angle, but not from another, but the radiologist might not wan to take a whole slew of x-rays just to get all the angles covered.

728 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:28:40am

re: #715 buzzsawmonkey

I look forward to real fire-in-a-whorehouse confusion when people start handicapping for percentage of black versus white ancestry. On the one hand, white ancestry could be an example of "oppression," because it might indicate that your slave ancestors were taken advantage of by their white owners. On the other hand, it could not be an example of "oppression," because if there was a black and white union in the family tree post-Civil War, that could be worth a debit on the "oppression" side of the ledger.

Then there is the fact that a color hierarchy exists in black society, and that being "whiter" carries a certain level of privilege. So if a white admixture in the family tree indicates "oppression" (reparations upding!), it also indicates "privilege" (reparations downding!).

And, of course, if the black and white ancestry is equivalent, then they cancel each other out; no reparations at all.


I want Obama to pay reparations. His paternal family were slavers in Kenya. African Americans generally come from West Africa.
Pay up Barry.

729 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:28:44am

re: #681 WriterMom

LOL. BenHur, you missed my lebanese story from yesterday.

Goatee?

730 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:28:49am

re: #684 laZardo I just wanted to know what you'd been taught about the Dems and Republican parties "flip-flopping" is all - and I didn't receive an e-mail from you!

731 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:29:20am

re: #679 realwest

Since joining LGF and learning about your cancer you've been in our family prayers RW.

You're one of my favorite Lizards...even with your own problems you're always there for others...a kind word, helpful tips and genuine kindness that shines daily.

732 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:29:33am

re: #711 Golem Akbar

Sorry to hear about the dog. My daughter and SIL have a border collie. Very smart dogs. Very loyal, too.

I love dogs, but nothing compared to how attached my wife's side gets to them. He'll likely be put down today or in the next few days.

733 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:29:56am

re: #708 opnion

Know the one on Rush. Great food, but sometimes lines.

But the best place to eat always was The Valios, See Your Food.

734 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:30:05am

re: #730 realwest

Hmm. Check the Junk Mail or something, because I sent it from my Hotmail. I'll try to send one from the MyWay address I log on here with tomorrow. Cheers.

735 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:30:14am

buzzsawmonkey (#715),

You raise some interesting points. The real question though is how do reparations help Michelle Obama's children?

736 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:30:15am

re: #721 realwest
Day-um. Friend of my moms was going through chemo and they gave her medical marijuana for the naseua. Seemed to help her. It must've been good shit cause she put it in brownies! Got some food in her and helped with the chemo side affects. Not advocating RW, just relating a story.

737 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:30:16am

re: #722 sparrowlake

Why is everyone against repatriations?
If the descendants of slaves really want to be repatriated then the government should pay the freight.

Forget the sarc tag? If the government pays, we pay via taxes.
And my ancestors didn't come here until 1915 or so, much after slaveowning ended, so I shouldn't have to pay.

They use Holocaust reparations as the model. Fine. Anyone still living who was a slave can get reparations from entities that owned slaves back in the day.

738 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:30:30am

re: #713 looking closely

50 dental schools nation wide compare to how many medical schools?

I found it difficult to even find dentists on the internet. If one has cancer or an orthapaedic issue, there is a lot of information on the net that helps you to determine if your doctor is steering you in the right direction. When I was doing my dental research that wasn't available on the internet. Even the government sites were sorely lacking.

I felt lucky I lived fairly close to a dental school.

739 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:30:53am

re: #718 lifeofthemind

Maybe 1 in 50 Americans died and up to 2 in 50 Americans were wounded.
think of the equivalent numbers for today's population.

It's quite a bit. Puts Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, and others into a sobering perspective.

1 in 50 today would be at least 6 million dead, with 2 in 50 being 12 million wounded.

740 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:30:54am

re: #719 ggt

I had a seizure dog that had a stroke a few years ago. She ended-up being fine. Took a while for her brain to re-wire --she'd walk into walls and stuff. Luckily, she was up and around right a way and overcame it. Lived for many days and was chasing the ball to the end.

Best wishes to your SIL.

That was #688 Bosphorus' dog who seized. My SIL's Border Collie is still great (still wacky as all hell).

741 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:31:04am

re: #699 kansas Please see my #'s 316 and 317 above.

742 laZardo  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:31:44am

re: #730 realwest

Oh, and all I can say to summarize it is that the Democrats gradually morphed into the liberal party partially out of their WW2 experience with FDR and Truman, while the Republicans edged into the conservative "dust."

/coincidentially, I dropped out of high school AND got suspended from community college right before I hit World War I in US History classes, but I did a lot of "advance reading" back then.

743 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:32:15am

re: #716 realwest

why don't any of the numerous X-Rays you've taken show any fracture? "Well sometimes these don't show up on X-ray's".

Skill of the interpreter of the X-ray is an important factor (eg if you're not looking for a fracture, you won't find one) , and the ideal study for that uses multiple X-rays from different angles.

So its not *necessarily* utter BS.

744 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:32:48am

re: #733 lifeofthemind

But the best place to eat always was The Valios, See Your Food.

Ok, I'll see that & raise you the Parthenon on Halsted.

745 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:33:03am

re: #715 buzzsawmonkey

Can you imagine the committees, task forces, and fact finding bureaucracy that will ensue?

746 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:33:31am

re: #722 sparrowlake

Why is everyone against repatriations?
If the descendants of slaves really want to be repatriated then the government should pay the freight.

Thank you Emily Litella

747 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:33:34am

re: #722 sparrowlake


Actually, that was done.

Liberia.

748 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:33:34am

Goddamn the mom, grandma, and the whole damn family of that little girl in Fla.

749 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:33:45am

re: #636 realwest

Thanks for trying to cheer me up Killian, but for reasons I truly don't understand, a bridge needs a tooth to hook on to - and as these are my two rear teeth there isn't anything on EACH side to hook a bridge onto, and a denture has to be custom made to fit - and we're talking serious, serious buckos here.

RW - my temp bridge was on a plate (like the retainers kids wear), and no additional teeth were needed for anything to "hook" onto. Ask your dentist.

750 UFO TOFU  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:33:51am

re: #712 pingjockey
I wasn't aware of that, but I certainly can believe it. That group is scary in their total disinterest in facts or commen sense.

751 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:34:26am

re: #716 realwest

Yeah, I fractured my wrist and it didn't show-up --hairline fracture. Well, I shouldn't say it didn't show up. It took 3 doctors (one with really good vision) to find it.

I can tell you that our ex-dentist drilled on my husband while he was taking steroids. Hubby asked if he should have antibiotics because of the steroids and dentist said no. Hubby ended-up with a 105 fever and at the ER 3 days later. Dentists insisted it was the nerve and he needed a root-canal. Never admited his mistake and never came after us for payment.

752 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:34:27am

re: #713 looking closely
I understand all that you've said, but my Oral Surgeon is both a DDS AND an MD.
But I'm not clear on one thing - are you suggesting it's really an exercise in futility to go to a dental school and hope to find someone smarter than my three stooges - that is, someone who can figure out what I should do SHORT of pulling those two teeth?

753 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:34:27am

re: #719 ggt

I appreciate it. Hopefully he'll be OK, but it's not looking that way right now.

754 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:34:28am

re: #732 bosforus

I love dogs, but nothing compared to how attached my wife's side gets to them. He'll likely be put down today or in the next few days.


We had a cocker spaniel. She was great (a tad spoiled, but hey, she was a cocker!). Putting her down at age 14 was tough. They just don't live long enough. Best thing is that if you can have a dog, replace them as soon as possible.

755 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:34:39am

re: #748 pingjockey

oh god,did they find her?

756 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:35:06am

re: #750 UFO TOFU
NRDC, Seirra Club, Earth First, etc...Just fucking loons. They don't want conservation, they want preservation. Huge difference.

757 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:35:07am

re: #737 Kosh's Shadow

Forget the sarc tag? If the government pays, we pay via taxes.
And my ancestors didn't come here until 1915 or so, much after slaveowning ended, so I shouldn't have to pay.

They use Holocaust reparations as the model. Fine. Anyone still living who was a slave can get reparations from entities that owned slaves back in the day.

Did you say REPARATIONS?
I wrote REPATRIATIONS.
Oh, never mind, it was a bad Emily Latella joke.

758 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:35:12am

re: #737 Kosh's Shadow

Forget the sarc tag? If the government pays, we pay via taxes.
And my ancestors didn't come here until 1915 or so, much after slaveowning ended, so I shouldn't have to pay.

They use Holocaust reparations as the model. Fine. Anyone still living who was a slave can get reparations from entities that owned slaves back in the day.

He said repatriated, ie send them back to where they're ancestors came from.

759 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:35:24am

In other news:
Hilarious picture alert.
Al Gore Places Infant Son In Rocket To Escape Dying Planet
[Link: www.theonion.com...]

760 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:35:24am

re: #717 laZardo

I have heard "ice crunching" is because of a vitamin deficiency. Iron maybe?

761 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:35:32am

re: #737 Kosh's Shadow

Forget the sarc tag? If the government pays, we pay via taxes.
And my ancestors didn't come here until 1915 or so, much after slaveowning ended, so I shouldn't have to pay.

They use Holocaust reparations as the model. Fine. Anyone still living who was a slave can get reparations from entities that owned slaves back in the day.


Kosh, Father Flager addressed that. He screeched from the pulpit, that the arguement that my people were not even here is just a dodge. It is 'collective", white guilt, because he says so.

762 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:35:33am

re: #716 realwest


They say the rearmost upper tooth (which had a perfectly normal root canal 15 years ago) is probably fractured. I said are teeth like bones? Said yes they are. I said so why don't any of the numerous X-Rays you've taken show any fracture?
"Well sometimes these don't show up on X-ray's".

HAVE ANY OF Y'ALL had a fractured bone where the fracture didn't show up on the X-rays? Anyone?
Bueller?

Yes, twice - root of the tooth was fractured and did not show up on x-rays. It happens.

763 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:36:04am
764 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:36:24am

Hello all. This from my home state of CT.

Million Dollar Cow

the reason for the steep price tag is her genes, her breeding potential and her rare red color.

"She has the ability now to make black and white daughters or red and white daughters that could sell. In fact we sold five daughters of her yesterday as well, separately,” Terri Packard, manager of Arethusa Farm, said.

The 5-month-old calves sold for as much as $160,000.

Now, I have always had a thing for redheads, but this is ridiculous.

765 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:36:32am

re: #763 buzzsawmonkey

If they were indentured servants, they get free dental care.

What about undentured servants?

766 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:36:37am

re: #740 Golem Akbar

sorry, I got the dogs confused.

767 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:36:42am

re: #755 Boondock St. Bender
Nope. Just more obfuscation, spinning and all around BS. Got party pictures of mom at some disco in Orlando after the little girl disappeared.

768 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:37:19am

re: #731 jorline Aw shucks jorline, now y'all have me blushing! Thanks for the kind words, they are appreciated.

769 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:37:30am
770 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:37:30am

re: #716 realwest

Real, I will give you orthopaedic equivalent.

We do have scenarios where a radiograph will not image a fracture.

Actually, this can be quite common in something called a carpal navicular fracture, as well as Salter Harris fractures in children.

Most of the time, it will referred to as an occult fracture.

I'll spare the dissertation, and just say that even if the diagnostic is not obvious, if it walks like a duck......

771 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:37:48am

re: #761 opnion

Kosh, Father Flager addressed that. He screeched from the pulpit, that the arguement that my people were not even here is just a dodge. It is 'collective", white guilt, because he says so.


I like it. I'm going to petition for reparations from Egypt, since my people were once enslaved by them. How about Collective Arab Guilt?

772 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:37:59am

re: #744 opnion

Ok, I'll see that & raise you the Parthenon on Halsted.

Not for breakfast but the dinner in greek town was great. Valois lemon fish was pretty good actually but for breakfast it was amazing. Biscuits, butter, french toast, syrup and butter, sausage and syrup, oatmeal syrup and butter and coffee, cheap.

773 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:38:27am

re: #758 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

He said repatriated, ie send them back to where they're ancestors came from.

Thanks. Sometimes, I read what I think is there.

774 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:38:37am

re: #763 buzzsawmonkey

If they were indentured servants, they get free dental care.

Dentured servants?

775 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:38:46am

re: #751 ggt

Yeah, I fractured my wrist and it didn't show-up --hairline fracture. Well, I shouldn't say it didn't show up. It took 3 doctors (one with really good vision) to find it.

I can tell you that our ex-dentist drilled on my husband while he was taking steroids. Hubby asked if he should have antibiotics because of the steroids and dentist said no. Hubby ended-up with a 105 fever and at the ER 3 days later. Dentists insisted it was the nerve and he needed a root-canal. Never admited his mistake and never came after us for payment.


Here's the deal, What do they call the guy who graduated last in med school? Doctor.
They guy who flunked out? Dentist. (apologies to dentists)

776 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:38:47am

re: #767 pingjockey

this is not going to end well.what the hell is wrong with some people?

777 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:38:52am

re: #765 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

What about undentured servants?

That is a toothless argument.

778 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:38:52am
779 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:39:08am

re: #745 formercorpsman

Can you imagine the committees, task forces, and fact finding bureaucracy that will ensue?

Good grief, it would be a royal mess. You have people out there who are the decendants of both slaves and owners. Where does this place them? Then you have people who never owned any slaves. Why do they need to pay? And what about people whose ancestors came over as indentured servants?

It's better if the issue of reparations just gets buried and forgotten.

780 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:39:23am

re: #736 pingjockey
Yeah, well it may not be Chemo - something different, probably radiation thereapy which can lead to a lot of other problems with kidneys, colon, etc.
But even if it didn't, I'd have to be able to chew the damn brownies! LOL!

781 ggt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:39:28am

I have to start my day.

Have a great day all!

782 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:39:44am

re: #771 Golem Akbar

I like it. I'm going to petition for reparations from Egypt, since my people were once enslaved by them. How about Collective Arab Guilt?

If I recall properly the ancient Egyptians were not Arabs.

783 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:39:45am

re: #776 Boondock St. Bender
Selfish. The grandma is a real piece of work.

784 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:39:53am

re: #763 buzzsawmonkey

If they were indentured servants, they get free dental care.

But they should pay for their own Polident.

785 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:40:21am

re: #779 Honorary Yooper

It's better if the issue of reparations just gets buried and forgotten.

WTH? Are you trying to put the grievance mongers out of work?

786 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:40:27am

re: #777 Ford_Prefect

Hey Ford...BTW, I truly wanted to name my son Slarty Bartfarst. Wife disagreed strongly.

So we named him FBV, Jr.

787 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:40:30am

re: #771 Golem Akbar

I like it. I'm going to petition for reparations from Egypt, since my people were once enslaved by them. How about Collective Arab Guilt?

Good luck with that.

788 joncelli  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:40:36am

re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

GO HOKIES! They're thugs, but they're OUR thugs!

Hokie high! What year? (I'm class of '87.)

789 Syrah  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:40:48am

Historical guilt or collective guilt?

Are we responsible for the sins of our brothers and or the sins of our fathers?

790 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:40:49am

re: #738 ggt Um, in all that research you did, didja by any chance find one in the general area of Charlotte, North Carolina?!

791 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:40:50am

re: #780 realwest
Oh crap! That is right. Back to square one.

792 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:40:59am

re: #779 Honorary Yooper

You know, looking at the recent post Charles had yesterday about Barry's days as a professor, I think we might just at the beginning.

I agree, it is futile.

793 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:41:25am

re: #771 Golem Akbar

I like it. I'm going to petition for reparations from Egypt, since my people were once enslaved by them. How about Collective Arab Guilt?

I figure you should just claim the Pyramids as payment for services rendered.

794 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:41:34am

re: #788 joncelli

None...just a loser who lives 30 miles away.

795 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:41:37am

re: #772 lifeofthemind

Not for breakfast but the dinner in greek town was great. Valois lemon fish was pretty good actually but for breakfast it was amazing. Biscuits, butter, french toast, syrup and butter, sausage and syrup, oatmeal syrup and butter and coffee, cheap.

Alright, now I'm hungry.

796 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:42:11am

re: #766 ggt

sorry, I got the dogs confused.

Who Let the Dogs Out?

797 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:42:13am

re: #778 buzzsawmonkey

Egypt periodically talks about trying to sue the Jews for the "spoils" which the Israelites took with them when they left--compounded for 3500 years' worth of interest, of course.

Let's take it to court. I think there may be more Jewish lawyers than Arab lawyers.

And, speaking of reparations, how many blacks were enslaved by Arabs? Maybe blacks ought to consider getting reparations from the Saudis.

798 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:42:17am

re: #786 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Ford...BTW, I truly wanted to name my son Slarty Bartfarst. Wife disagreed strongly.

So we named him FBV, Jr.

Obviously your wife doesn't appreciate great literature.

799 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:42:25am

re: #793 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I figure you should just claim the Pyramids as payment for services rendered.

File a lien against them for non-payment.

800 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:42:43am

re: #748 pingjockey

Goddamn the mom, grandma, and the whole damn family of that little girl in Fla.

She waited a month to tell others the child was missing! IIRC, her mother was the one to call the police.

801 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:43:06am

re: #768 realwest

Aw shucks jorline, now y'all have me blushing! Thanks for the kind words, they are appreciated.

I have bone loss in my jaw as well...my dentist said that they're able to graft bone and implant it into the jaw thus supporting an tooth implant.
Could this be a possibility?

802 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:43:11am

re: #793 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I figure you should just claim the Pyramids as payment for services rendered.


Not until they fix em up. Have you seen those things?

803 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:43:15am

re: #749 reine.de.tout
Uh, listen my friend - any chance y'all could e-mail me (my nic's in blue) cause I have a couple of questions and have already wasted too much of Charles' bandwidth on this.
Thank you kindly.

804 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:43:22am

re: #797 Golem Akbar

were?still are my friend.but that don't have no traction over here.

805 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:43:28am

Hey, here's a clue for y'all. Don't hit a police motorcyclist, then drive away. They just showed some fool in atlanta who did that. End of the chase wasn't pretty, well actually it was, the dude got smacked down hard!

806 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:44:38am

re: #798 Ford_Prefect

Saw a guy the other night with the green round thingy with hands with the tongue sticking out (The logo critter?). We talked about the book. Young (25) associate was with me, had never heard of THGTTGG books.

Sigh.

807 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:44:54am

BTW. How is everyone out west. No major problems I hope.

808 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:45:11am

re: #800 MandyManners
Yep, but grandma is now slamming the cops for not doing more?! She knows something, the mom knows and they're not helping. WTF?

809 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:45:14am

re: #762 reine.de.tout
Oh. Well crap.
Thanks.

810 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:45:39am

re: #764 Ford_Prefect

Hello all. This from my home state of CT.

Million Dollar Cow

Now, I have always had a thing for redheads, but this is ridiculous.

Well, a purely red heifer, with no hairs of another color after it is a year old, would be priceless to Jews.
The only way to remove ritual impurity (prevents offering sacrifices at the Temple) from contact with human corpses, is by a 7-day procedure involving sprinkling twice with water mixed with ashes of a red heifer.
Thus, finding such an animal is considered indication that the Temple will be restored. So far, there has been excitement a few times in the past 10 years, but by a year old, the heifers always had some other color hairs.

This is why Cohanim - priests - are not allowed to attend funerals or go to cemeteries; they need to be ready to assume their priestly duties as soon as the Temple is restored. The rest of us can wait a week, even Levites who normally would be singing and assisting the Cohanim. I guess the priests can just wash their own hands for a week.

Note to Charles - I'm not predicting end times here; I'm just explaining something.

811 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:45:52am

re: #782 CIA Reject

If I recall properly the ancient Egyptians were not Arabs.


Well, if you are going to quibble (and bits), Jews weren't slave owners in the US. except at the very end of the Confederacy, and then it was very rare. And even more to quibble about: there is evidence that blacks also owned slaves in the US.

Of course, the whole idea of reparations is stupid.

812 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:45:55am

re: #806 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw a guy the other night with the green round thingy with hands with the tongue sticking out (The logo critter?). We talked about the book. Young (25) associate was with me, had never heard of THGTTGG books.

Sigh.

I envy them the exploration that they have before them.

813 moonflower  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:46:24am

re: #688 bosforus

Sorry to hear about your SIL's dog. We just lost our 13 year old schipperke in April and it was and is heartbreaking. Got a schip puppy, which is helping us heal alot but I still miss our little Anna very much. :( Prayers to your SIL for some peace through all this. It is very hard.

814 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:46:28am

re: #801 jorline

actually had that done to a molar(bone graft)the tooth has been fine since.real w might not be able to do this because of his chemo treatments.(plays hell on the bones)

815 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:46:40am

re: #803 realwest

Uh, listen my friend - any chance y'all could e-mail me (my nic's in blue) cause I have a couple of questions and have already wasted too much of Charles' bandwidth on this.
Thank you kindly.

Best of luck to you on this.

816 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:47:22am

re: #769 buzzsawmonkey
and Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Are you trying to gum up the works?

I hate to say this, but both of y'all are really asking for it, I'm just saying.............!

LOL!

817 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:47:25am

re: #812 Ford_Prefect

I envy them the exploration that they have before them.

Oh yeah, the green thingy was a tatoo. forgot to mention that. duh.

818 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:47:32am

re: #778 buzzsawmonkey

Egypt periodically talks about trying to sue the Jews for the "spoils" which the Israelites took with them when they left--compounded for 3500 years' worth of interest, of course.

They tried in Alexander the Great's time, and the Jews sent a lawyer who argued for payment for their time in slavery. Alexander (who really was great) decided that the two canceled out and sent them home. He knew better than to get involved.

819 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:48:09am

re: #811 Golem Akbar

Well, if you are going to quibble (and bits), Jews weren't slave owners in the US. except at the very end of the Confederacy, and then it was very rare. And even more to quibble about: there is evidence that blacks also owned slaves in the US.

Of course, the whole idea of reparations is stupid.

You want to talk about truly invisible people? Try the decendants of African Slaves in Mexico. Yup, they had them.

820 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:49:15am

re: #816 realwest

and Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I hate to say this, but both of y'all are really asking for it, I'm just saying.............!

LOL!


My dentist always says that he just wants the tooth, the whole tooth. (so help me...)

821 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:49:28am

re: #814 Boondock St. Bender

actually had that done to a molar(bone graft)the tooth has been fine since.real w might not be able to do this because of his chemo treatments.(plays hell on the bones)

Do they have a synthetic product instead of accrual bone that the chemo wouldn't effect?

822 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:49:41am
823 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:49:44am

re: #810 Kosh's Shadow

I have to say that I never thought a story about a million dollar cow would lead to a lesson in Judaism. Thanks for the info, though. Always interested in learning new things.

824 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:51:00am

re: #821 jorline

Do they have a synthetic product instead of accrual bone that the chemo wouldn't effect?

sorry...actual

pimf

825 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:51:22am
826 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:51:23am

re: #817 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh yeah, the green thingy was a tatoo. forgot to mention that. duh.

I think my favorite quote from the books has always been from Ford:

"Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so."

827 Golem Akbar  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:52:05am

re: #819 opnion

You want to talk about truly invisible people? Try the decendants of African Slaves in Mexico. Yup, they had them.


One great thing about America is how it ended slavery which led to the rest of the world eventually following suit. Even though it still exists, it is not legal anywhere. Any longer.

828 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:52:45am
829 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:52:47am

re: #821 jorline

not that i heard of.from what i know of was decalcified bone tissue.(had a play dough quality to it)and your body adds the calcium back to the tissue mush.

830 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:52:48am

re: #814 Boondock St. Bender

actually had that done to a molar(bone graft)the tooth has been fine since.real w might not be able to do this because of his chemo treatments.(plays hell on the bones)

I had bone grafts (bone from the pelvis of a preteen boy) under two molars about 15 years ago. Saved both teeth.

831 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:53:07am

re: #777 Ford_Prefect
OK, you're now on my list, too.

832 WriterMom  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:53:08am

re: #729 Ben Hur

YAH! LOLOLOL.

833 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:53:21am

re: #810 Kosh's Shadow

Geeesh. She ain't red - she has 4 white socks and more. Red is red. Not red and white.

834 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:53:51am

re: #830 MandyManners
You bone napper you!

835 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:54:06am

re: #784 sparrowlake
You too.
Compassionate Conservatives my ass!

836 ROPMA  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:54:52am

In all x-rays you are looking at a shadow. It is easy to miss small non displaced fractures. So it is necessary to get numerous x-rays at different angles. Sometimes a fracture will not show up for 1-2 weeks on x-ray when the bone healing process can be seen.

Ice crunching can be a symptom of iron deficiency anemia.

837 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:55:12am

re: #831 realwest

OK, you're now on my list, too.

Sorry. I didn't want to buck the trend.

838 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:55:24am

Never had a cavity till about 2 months ago. First one ever.

839 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:55:38am
840 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:56:40am

re: #839 buzzsawmonkey

You did make some incisorive comments.

In my defense those statements were decalcified.

841 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:57:07am

re: #835 realwest,

Don't you remember yesterday? Conservatism is a dark evil on the face of the planet!

842 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:57:14am

re: #827 Golem Akbar

One great thing about America is how it ended slavery which led to the rest of the world eventually following suit. Even though it still exists, it is not legal anywhere. Any longer.

Didn't the British end slavery well before we did?

843 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:57:49am

re: #761 opnion

Kosh, Father Flager addressed that. He screeched from the pulpit, that the arguement that my people were not even here is just a dodge. It is 'collective", white guilt, because he says so.

One might argue that while slavery was a terrible injustice, the American descendants of African slaves are better off today than had American slavery never brought their ancestors here and thus, they owe the rest of America reparations.

844 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:58:17am

re: #801 jorline
Wha? I never heard of that - a bone graft? Who would be the one to do that, my oncologist, Oral Surgeon, someone else?
And oh crap, my bone weakness is all over, not just my teeth.
Anyway, I thank you for thinking about it and if y'all can tell who would be the one to do a bone graft, I'd still appreciate it!
AND, thank you for not taking this "opportunity" to make some really crappy jokes, unlike some others I've got on my list!
LOL!

845 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:58:38am

re: #830 MandyManners

it's amazing stuff.(my friend is a director in a bio-med co.)she showed me some of the video of surguries where they used the product to replace missing bone,and even to rebuild a hip socket joint.it's a facinating feild.

846 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:58:39am

re: #843 eschew_obfuscation

One might argue that while slavery was a terrible injustice, the American descendants of African slaves are better off today than had American slavery never brought their ancestors here and thus, they owe the rest of America reparations.

Good luck with that argument. :)

847 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:58:40am

re: #816 realwest

and Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I hate to say this, but both of y'all are really asking for it, I'm just saying.............!
LOL!

Looks like T Boone is right - you can't drill your way out of this problem.
(ducks and cowers)

848 Ford_Prefect  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:59:01am

re: #840 Ford_Prefect

In my defense those statements were decalcified.

Unfortunately I have work to do so I must go gnaw.

Later!

849 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:00:03am

re: #828 buzzsawmonkey

If Obama is for reparations, maybe he is really running for Polident of the United States, rather than President.

I think Charles should send Obama a case of Reparation H.

850 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:00:24am

re: #843 eschew_obfuscation

One might argue that while slavery was a terrible injustice, the American descendants of African slaves are better off today than had American slavery never brought their ancestors here and thus, they owe the rest of America reparations.

Cost of "Reparations" versus the cost of the Civil War in adjusted dollars, with payments to all the wounded (and their descendants) sounds about right.

851 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:01:00am

re: #814 Boondock St. Bender HEY! I'm not on Chemo yet! How'd they do that and which medical professionals were involved (by type, I mean)? Again, nic in blue for e-mail purposes - taking up way too much bandwitdth with this as it is.

852 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:01:08am

re: #846 bosforus

Good luck with that argument. :)

I know......I only haul that one out when someone else brings up reparations ;-)

853 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:01:49am

re: #842 Honorary Yooper
Yes. The British navy was very active off of the west coast of Africa in trying to stop the save ships. IIRC, importing slaves directly into the U.S. was illegal. The slavers would take them to the Caribbean first, then smuggle the poor wretches in. BTW, the dudes catching the slaves were ARABS!

854 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:02:00am

re: #844 realwest

real,i'm gonna be speaking with my dentist today.i could ask him for specifics on it.

855 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:02:07am

re: #849 sparrowlake

I think Charles should send Obama a case of Reparation H.

Important Safety Tip: Keep your Prep H well away from the Polident. Prep H tastes awful and I couldn't crap all day.

/rimshot

856 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:02:15am

re: #853 pingjockey
And fellow Africans!

857 Cygnus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:02:20am

re: #4 Wyatt Earp

I wonder if Jerry Lewis hoped no one would check his luggage.

Hey lady!

Best comment from the link:
hey should have looked at his act and detained him for carrying a bomb!

858 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:02:51am

Hmm.. this is good news, but I don't think folks appreciate it. 50,000 Iraqi troops and security, backed by US forces, are engaged in a massive operation to break the insurgency once and for all in Diyala province.

50,000 Iraqis.

That's about 1/3 the size of the entire US military at the height of the surge. That's nearly 4 divisions of troops.

It's quite a test for them, and it appears they're doing the job. They're rounding up insurgents, al Qaeda, and uncovering weapons caches.

859 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:02:59am

re: #820 Golem Akbar
OK then, one more "friend" to add to the ever growing list!

;')

860 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:03:26am

re: #834 pingjockey

You bone napper you!

He didn't need it any more.

861 UFO TOFU  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:03:33am

re: #807 Ford_Prefect
Earthquakes and wildfires here in CA, nothing out of the ordinary.

862 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:03:37am

re: #858 lawhawk
However, you will not see any positive reporting of this on the lsm.

863 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:03:45am
864 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:03:50am

re: #851 realwest

I'll get some info.(quit your complaining,if i know charles correctly,he'd dedicate a whole thread to help you out!)

865 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:04:47am

re: #860 MandyManners
Had a friend of mine just have vertebrae replacement surgery with a cadavers vertebrae. So far so good.

866 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:04:57am

re: #827 Golem Akbar
Uh Golem, Great Britian ended slavery in, iirc, the 1830's and by 1860 we were the only "civilized" [read Western] nation that still held slavery as legal.

867 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:05:41am

re: #844 realwest

Wha? I never heard of that - a bone graft? Who would be the one to do that, my oncologist, Oral Surgeon, someone else?
And oh crap, my bone weakness is all over, not just my teeth.
Anyway, I thank you for thinking about it and if y'all can tell who would be the one to do a bone graft, I'd still appreciate it!
AND, thank you for not taking this "opportunity" to make some really crappy jokes, unlike some others I've got on my list!
LOL!

Boondock and Mandy had it done...they could give you more info...I'm researching the subject at this time.

I'm looking for a synthetic product that the chemo would not break down.

868 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:06:47am

Obama has never said that he favors reparations. Here's what he said last Sunday, first in response to a question about apologies to Native Americans, which have recently been issued by Canada and Australia, and then when asked about reparations. Essentially, he says that the best way of addressing past wrongs is to make things better here and now, not to worry about who is to blame.

BRIAN BULL: Senator . . . Last February, the Australian prime minister apologized for the past treatment of its indigenous people. Last month, the Canadian prime minister also issued an apology for its treatment of its indigenous population. Would your administration issue an apology to Native Americans for the atrocities they’ve endured for the past 500 years?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: You know, I personally would want to see our tragic history or the tragic elements of our history acknowledged. And I think that there’s no doubt that when it comes to our treatment of Native Americans, as well as other persons of color in this country, that we’ve got some very sad and difficult things to account for.

What an official apology would look like, how it would be shaped, that’s something that I would want to consult with Native Americans tribes and councils to talk about. And as a nation, they have a host of other issues to talk about, and—because, obviously, as sovereign nations, they also have a whole host of other issues that they’re concerned about and that they’ve prioritized. One of the things that I said to tribal leaders is, I want to set up an annual meeting with them and make sure that a whole range of these issues are addressed.

But I’ve consistently believed, when it comes—whether it’s Native American issues, whether it’s African American issues and reparations, that the most important thing for the US government to do is not just to offer words, but offer deeds. And when you look at the situation on tribal lands, the fact that by every socioeconomic indicator Native Americans are doing worse than any other population on health, on education, on substance abuse—their housing situations are deplorable, unemployment is skyrocketing—you know, I have to confess that I’m more concerned about delivering a better life and creating a better relationship with the Native American peoples than anything else. And that’s what I want to engage tribal leaders in making sure happens.

SUZANNE MALVEAUX: When it comes to reparations, would you take it a step further, in terms of apologizing for slavery or offering reparations to various groups?

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: You know, I have said in the past, and I’ll repeat again, that the best reparations we can provide are good schools in the inner city and jobs for people who are unemployed. And I think that strategies that invest in lifting people out of the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow, but that have brought applicability and allow us to build coalitions to actually get these things done, that, I think, is the best strategy.

869 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:07:09am

re: #805 pingjockey

Hey, here's a clue for y'all. Don't hit a police motorcyclist, then drive away. They just showed some fool in atlanta who did that. End of the chase wasn't pretty, well actually it was, the dude got smacked down hard!

I once saw a woman do a u-turn to get out of a traffic jam. She turned the car around smack into a motorcycle cop who tumbled across the hood of her car and landed on his face on the road. The cop slowly got up, looked at the driver, carefully picked up his motorcycle and then slowly walked up to the driver. By this point she was shaking and sobbing. Not a good day for her.

870 formercorpsman  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:07:14am

re: #858 lawhawk

Diyala province

Iran's RG is fortified there as well.

871 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:07:20am

re: #844 realwest

Wha? I never heard of that - a bone graft? Who would be the one to do that, my oncologist, Oral Surgeon, someone else?
And oh crap, my bone weakness is all over, not just my teeth.
Anyway, I thank you for thinking about it and if y'all can tell who would be the one to do a bone graft, I'd still appreciate it!
AND, thank you for not taking this "opportunity" to make some really crappy jokes, unlike some others I've got on my list!
LOL!

RW see Mandy's #830 and Boondock's #845.

872 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 9:07:40am