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WaPo: President Obama Continues Victory Tour

Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:24:35 am PDT

It’s official; the hope-colored blinders have fallen from the eyes of the Washington Post: Dana Milbank - President Obama Continues Hectic Victory Tour.

Barack Obama has long been his party’s presumptive nominee. Now he’s becoming its presumptuous nominee.

Fresh from his presidential-style world tour, during which foreign leaders and American generals lined up to show him affection, Obama settled down to some presidential-style business in Washington yesterday. He ordered up a teleconference with the (current president’s) Treasury secretary, granted an audience to the Pakistani prime minister and had his staff arrange for the chairman of the Federal Reserve to give him a briefing. Then, he went up to Capitol Hill to be adored by House Democrats in a presidential-style pep rally.

Along the way, he traveled in a bubble more insulating than the actual president’s. Traffic was shut down for him as he zoomed about town in a long, presidential-style motorcade, while the public and most of the press were kept in the dark about his activities, which included a fundraiser at the Mayflower where donors paid $10,000 or more to have photos taken with him. His schedule for the day, announced Monday night, would have made Dick Cheney envious:

11:00 a.m.: En route TBA.
12:05 p.m.: En route TBA.
1:45 p.m.: En route TBA.
2:55 p.m.: En route TBA.
5:20 p.m.: En route TBA.

The 5:20 TBA turned out to be his adoration session with lawmakers in the Cannon Caucus Room, where even committee chairmen arrived early, as if for the State of the Union. Capitol Police cleared the halls — just as they do for the actual president. The Secret Service hustled him in through a side door — just as they do for the actual president.

Inside, according to a witness, he told the House members, “This is the moment . . . that the world is waiting for,” adding: “I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions.

As he marches toward Inauguration Day (Election Day is but a milestone on that path), Obama’s biggest challenger may not be Republican John McCain but rather his own hubris.

Some say the supremely confident Obama — nearly 100 days from the election, he pronounces that “the odds of us winning are very good” — has become a president-in-waiting. But in truth, he doesn’t need to wait: He has already amassed the trappings of the office, without those pesky decisions.

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1 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:26:00am

I thought it was critical of Obama.

2 jemima  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:26:31am

So now that they admit the truth, do these skanks still vote for him?

3 RaiderDan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:27:19am

All thats left is changing his campaign theme song to "Hail to the Chief" and his campaign plane to Air Force One.

New campaign digs: 1600 Penn. Ave. (even though its illegal to use gov't offices for campaiging but that won't stop him)

4 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:27:20am

Curiously, the American people have found Obama's act tiring, even if they don't particularly care for McCain. Despite his incessant play to look Presidential - from the Obama seal to the European and ME trip, he's virtually tied with McCain and received absolutely no benefit from the foreign trip.

Hubris and ego are going to be his downfall.

5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:27:20am
nearly 100 days from the election, he pronounces that “the odds of us winning are very good”

I'm waiting for day 101 and it becomes "What the hell happened?"

6 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:27:54am

Arrogance- thy name is obama.

7 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:28:19am
As he marches toward Inauguration Day (Election Day is but a milestone millstone on that path), Obama’s biggest challenger may not be Republican John McCain but rather his own hubris.

I have hope.

8 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:28:21am

Those damn voters think they have the right to choose the President! Imagine the hubris...

9 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:28:31am
“This is the moment . . . that the world is waiting for,” adding: “I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions.”


You know Obama is getting out of control when MSNBC asks, Is Obama getting cocky?

10 maddogg  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:28:51am

Hard rain commin' on the Obama motorcade...

11 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:29:05am

Dewey Obama Defeats Truman McCain!

Is this what he believes?

12 Pyrocles  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:29:09am

"American generals lined up to show him affection"? Are they sure on that? Maybe Wesley Clark.

13 bombarafat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:29:21am

His arrogance knows no bounds.

14 nightlight  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:29:48am

What traditions? Black Liberation "Christianity"? G-d damn America?

15 LemonJoose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:29:49am
Inside, according to a witness, he told the House members, “This is the moment . . . that the world is waiting for,” adding: “I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions.”

Unbelievable....just unbelievable.

16 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:29:53am

It's going to be fun watching when he crashes and burns. Then we will see the REAL Barack and Michelle Obama.

/It isn't going to be pretty.

17 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:30:20am

re: #12 Pyrocles

"American generals lined up to show him affection"? Are they sure on that? Maybe Wesley Clark.

"Look, they're saluting."

"Um, sir, when its with one finger like that, its not a salute."

18 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:30:21am

This only makes me want him to lose that much more. I would love, in that most fortunate event, to watch the smug arrogant smile get wiped off his big stupid face.

19 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:30:23am

Israel's Olmert to announce he's leaving office: TV

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert will announce on Wednesday that he will leave office in two months, Israel's Channel Two television reported.

The report said Olmert will not run in his Kadima party's leadership contest on September 17, clearing the way for rivals to try to form a new government. Channel Two said Olmert would step aside as soon as Kadima chooses a new leader

/better late than never

20 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:30:44am

Once again life (or the BO campaign anyway) imitates "The Onion"

21 Teacake!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:30:46am

Ya know I 'm starting to think since Michael Jackson seems to have vanished off the face of the earth that he had a lot more surgery..... BO's arrogance is just too similar to that of the king of pop's.

22 runrabbitrun  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:31:04am

Was the Drudge alarm that Olmert's stepping aside discussed?

23 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:31:10am

re: #8 Iron Fist

Those damn voters think they have the right to choose the President! Imagine the hubris...

He hasn't even officially been given the nomination yet!

/Super delegates could still change course......

24 Maximu§  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:31:33am

Pride goeth before the Fall.

25 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:31:46am
26 ParanoidPyro  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:31:49am

This is the first time in his political life he's faced an actual challenger, can you blame the guy for thinking it's a given when it always has been for him?

That said, it'll be that much sweeter to see him and his cultist followers reactions if he actually does manage to continue on his path to losing the election. Tasty, tasty come-uppance.

27 DeathtotheSwiss  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:32:06am

re: #21 Teacake!

Ya know I 'm starting to think since Michael Jackson seems to have vanished off the face of the earth that he had a lot more surgery..... BO's arrogance is just too similar to that of the king of pop's.


Stop it, you're ignorant...you're ignorant. That's racist. Stop it.
(Not so obvious South Park reference)

28 Teacake!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:32:18am

Actually, perhaps G-d has answered his prayers and amped up the arrogance in order to save us all.

29 loppyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:32:42am

Cracks are forming....

30 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:32:58am

re: #24 Maximu§

Pride goeth before the Fall.

I'm thinking his pride will be gone at some point during the Fall. Perhaps around 9:00PM PST Nov. 4th.

31 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:33:00am

re: #12 Pyrocles

"American generals lined up to show him affection"? Are they sure on that? Maybe Wesley Clark.

Yeah, really, they were giving him the Hawaiian Good Luck Sign and everything!

32 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:33:25am

Olmert is done.

33 Know Your Enemy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:33:28am

A lot of things can happen and/or come to light in the next 100 days.

I still say this clod doesn't have a prayer and that he'll be a living joke in a year. Remember how "inevitable" Hillary was...

34 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:34:04am

re: #25 jcm

Obama victory tour video just in!


That was great! Let's just HOPE this happens to the obamassiah.

35 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:34:10am

In a PBS soap opera, like Foyle's War this is where the gruff detective discovers the poseur candidate's horrible secret. But only if he is a Conservative.

36 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:35:22am

re: #23 Sharmuta

Hillary never released he delegates, did she? Recreate '68 Denver '08! Riot! Riot! Riot! Riot! Riot!

37 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:35:27am

re: #33 Know Your Enemy

A lot of things can happen and/or come to light in the next 100 days.

I still say this clod doesn't have a prayer and that he'll be a living joke in a year. Remember how "inevitable" Hillary was...

Three words: "Dewey Defeats Truman"

38 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:35:29am

Time to bring the pig out of the hangar?

39 Teacake!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:35:33am

isn't that Greek myth about the guy with wax and feather wings who flew too close to the sun - about hubris?

40 red satellite  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:35:34am

...which included a fundraiser at the Mayflower where donors paid $10,000 or more to have photos taken with him.

"My great uncle or aunt...or was it my 2nd cousin- landed at Plymouth rock." BHO

41 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:35:57am

The pompous ass.

42 BingoBunny  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:36:03am

I'm waiting for a moment ..but it's Obama seeing the election results.. and he loses.

43 sealizard  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:36:15am

Does the Annointed One get more "ludicrus" with each minute of his ridiciulous candidacy?

44 pbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:36:15am

re: #36 Iron Fist

Hillary never released he delegates, did she? Recreate '68 Denver '08! Riot! Riot! Riot! Riot! Riot!

Teehee!

45 Socratease  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:36:24am

This guy is starting to scare me. Messiah complex; inability to admit to mistakes; believes he can save the world; can't tolerate criticism; radical racist associates; contempt for common values; believes power should be his by right of...what?

46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:36:40am

re: #25 jcm

Obama victory tour video just in!

I'm still hoping for it to be more like this

47 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:37:34am

re: #45 Socratease

He's the dictator he's been waiting for.

48 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:37:36am

re: #8 Iron Fist

Those damn voters think they have the right to choose the President! Imagine the hubris...

They'' choose right or thet'll be denounced to history as racists. 2008 will be a lynching.

49 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:37:39am

re: #36 Iron Fist

Hillary never released he delegates, did she? Recreate '68 Denver '08! Riot! Riot! Riot! Riot! Riot!

Looks like this is what she was waiting on. Or it is a fortunate happenstance that occurred while she was waiting to make a big show of turning over her delegates in Denver. She may be able to usurp the O'nomination now.

50 Steffan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:37:55am

Yep... and McCain is campaigning with "unbelievable negativity" when he dares to bring up some actual issues.

Something tells me Hillary may have something of a rebirth at the convention. My suggestion for anyone watching the Denver coronation is to bring lots of popcorn. It ought to be vastly entertaining.

51 Teacake!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:38:12am

Let's hope he ignores those who tell him how his ego is out of control and makes such a mockery of himself that even the Left will have to stand back and gasp.

52 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:38:37am

Looks like Hillary is now writing for the Washington Post.

Oh well, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.
Will he accept the loss in November, or have his own inauguration, complete with security from the NOI?

How does he even fit in a limo with a head as swelled as his?

53 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:39:08am

Obama's Victory Parade Band practices.

54 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:39:08am

Thank you Charles for this. Dana Milbank of the Washington Post is taking a big risk by stepping away from the Kool-Aid.

55 pbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:39:22am

re: #49 CyanSnowHawk

Looks like this is what she was waiting on. Or it is a fortunate happenstance that occurred while she was waiting to make a big show of turning over her delegates in Denver. She may be able to usurp the O'nomination now.

She HAS been spookily quiet. Wonder what's up?

56 LemonJoose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:39:37am

The international community is at it again, fellow Americans. They're trying to elect your next President, and they would much prefer some young, inexperienced rube whom they can push around to their own advantage, rather than an experienced older man who knows every trick in the book and isn't going to fall for any of it.

57 pat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:39:40am

Megalomania.

58 joncelli  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:39:46am
“This is the moment . . . that the world is waiting for,” adding: “I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions.”

The O-man wouldn't know America's best traditions if they walked up and bit him on his skinny ass.

59 CheDub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:39:47am

I'm hoping for something along the lines of "Dewey Defeats Truman!"

60 runrabbitrun  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:39:52am

re: #24 Maximu§

Pride goeth before the Fall.

Pride also goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before the fall.

Got my fingers crossed for part 1, and a rubber stamp for part 2.

61 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:40:19am
Some say the supremely confident Obama — nearly 100 days from the election, he pronounces that “the odds of us winning are very good” — has become a president-in-waiting. But in truth, he doesn’t need to wait: He has already amassed the trappings of the office, without those pesky decisions.

100 days? So he's been Senator nearly as long as he's been running for President.

62 realwest  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:40:29am

WOW - this is from the WaPo? The same WaPo that couldn't be bothered getting into a scrape with the NYTimes over the NYTimes giving Obama an editorial and refusing McCain's editorial? Hell, forget "scrape" I don't think the WaPo even reported it, much less rendered any opinion on it.

And what's with "a fundraiser at the Mayflower where donors paid $10,000 or more to have photos taken with him." I thought Sen. Obama was raising his money from the "little people" - ya know, everyday hard working folks.
No wonder he broke his promise to accept Federal Funding for his campaign. Don't suppose the WaPo will connect the dots on Obama's fundraising either.
Nice try, WaPo, but no cigar.

63 NoSubmission  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:40:29am
where donors paid $10,000 or more to have photos taken with him..

That made me seriously ill.

64 Teacake!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:40:44am

#47 Iron Fist - that's what I noticed early on with all the select words he and his wife use... BO will demand, never allow, refuses - I'm sure there are a ton more examples in his every day chatterings.

65 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:41:12am

re: #55 pbird

She HAS been spookily quiet. Wonder what's up?

She has holed up in the forests of the Misty Mountains, licking her wounds and gathering her forces, waiting for a sign that the One Ring has been found.

66 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:41:14am

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm still hoping for it to be more like this

That'll leave a mark!
Mile High Face Plant for BHO!

67 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:42:11am

Well - if he thinks he's become the symbol etc, I hope Americans everywhere are now starting to ask themselves if they want to ahve a symbol in the Oval Office, or a proper human being ...

Keep it up BO - afterwards, you can ask the McCain campaign for some money for the material for all the good adverts you have provided them with!

68 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:42:19am
69 MeCurious  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:42:42am

re: #46 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That was great! LOL!

70 doppelganglander  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:42:50am

re: #35 lifeofthemind

In a PBS soap opera, like Foyle's War this is where the gruff detective discovers the poseur candidate's horrible secret. But only if he is a Conservative.

It would be kind of refreshing if Obama did have a good, old-fashioned horrible secret. Instead we've got the Second Coming who's apparently been preparing his image since he was in knee pants, but can't be bothered to develop a record of achievement.

71 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:42:53am

re: #4 lawhawk

Hubris and ego are going to be his downfall.

I agree.

Maybe overthinking it, but politically, America has never entertained the idea of Royalty. The more he behaves that way, the more he's going to trigger a residual something-or-other in the liberal elite.

72 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:43:03am

re: #56 LemonJoose

The international community is at it again, fellow Americans. They're trying to elect your next President, and they would much prefer some young, inexperienced rube whom they can push around to their own advantage, rather than an experienced older man who knows every TROTSKYITE trick in the book and isn't going to fall for any of it.

* * *
McCain has the scars from years taking beatings (not kisses & love notes) from INTERNATIONAL Community organizers of the Viet Cong sort.

73 unclassifiable  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:43:22am

Confidence to cover ignorance -- I've seen that before...

...again and again.

74 pbird  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:43:23am

re: #65 CyanSnowHawk

She has holed up in the forests of the Misty Mountains, licking her wounds and gathering her forces, waiting for a sign that the One Ring has been found.

Something like that.

75 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:44:14am

michelle obama is so confident of victory she has decided to rename some of the rooms in the White House when they move in...the Lincoln bedroom will now be known as the "oprah lounge"

76 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:44:19am

re: #65 CyanSnowHawk

She has holed up in the forests of the Misty Mountains, licking her wounds and gathering her forces, waiting for a sign that the One Ring has been found.

Actually, I thought she was in Isingard; Soros still has Mordor while his Nazgul, Obama, runs for puppet president.

77 CIA Reject  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:44:25am

re: #63 NoSubmission

That made me seriously ill.

Me too- how do people that stupid end up with that much money?

/Inheritance I guess....

78 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:44:30am

re: #59 CheDub

I'm hoping for something along the lines of "Dewey Defeats Truman!"

* * *
Nixonian landslide over McGovern would be satisfying also.
Silent Majority and all that, versus the Media Big Bang.

79 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:44:42am

The WaPo better watch out with the critique of President Obama. Once the Fairness Doctrine is reinstated anything less than full on worship and flattery will be deemed to be unfair and subject the offender to years in Federal incarceration.

80 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:45:11am

Barf.

81 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:45:29am

re: #19 Killian Bundy

Israel's Olmert to announce he's leaving office: TV

/better late than never

The damage has already been done. But as you say, better late than never.

82 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:45:52am

re: #36 Iron Fist

Hillary never released he delegates, did she? Recreate '68 Denver '08! Riot! Riot! Riot! Riot! Riot!

She didn't! And the supers could change everything.

Den-Ver! Den-Ver!

83 Victrola  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:46:04am

This guy is toast. Say what you like about Bill Clinton (and believe me I am no admirer of Billy Jeff), the man knows politics and the American people. When he said Obama is unelectable, he spoke the truth. The Democrat party chose to ignore his counsel and will pay the price in November. And yes, the wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Left will be as a beautiful symphony to me.

84 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:46:26am

re: #28 Teacake!

Actually, perhaps G-d has answered his prayers and amped up the arrogance in order to save us all.

His arrogance goes up to 11.

85 pegcity  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:46:27am

Im pretty sure if it were up to the democrats their wouldn't be any elections, they would appoint themselves rulers for life ala Chavez

86 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:46:51am

"Milbank, come to my office RIGHT NOW!"

/milbank's boss

87 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:47:03am

I just hope, for McCAin's sake, BO makes it through Denver, damaged but still the Dem's candidate.
Hillary v McCain - not so good, imho.

88 eric  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:47:15am

re: #4 lawhawk

Curiously, the American people have found Obama's act tiring, even if they don't particularly care for McCain. Despite his incessant play to look Presidential - from the Obama seal to the European and ME trip, he's virtually tied with McCain and received absolutely no benefit from the foreign trip.

Hubris and ego are going to be his downfall.

Reminds me of Icarus. He is getting too close to the Sun.

Americans hate arrogance.

89 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:48:42am

re: #86 Ward Cleaver

"Milbank, come to my office RIGHT NOW!"

/milbank's boss

* * *
"Whatever makes you think its Washington Post tradition to bring down presidents?"

90 unclassifiable  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:48:48am

re: #78 alegrias

re: #59 CheDub

Nope, it will be 2000 and 2004 all over again.

And the Dems will lose.

And the whining will be incessant.

But I have hope.

Because a lot of us have seen 8 years of this. And like a tired worn out sitcom, my bet is that the electorate won't tune in this time.

91 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:50:39am

re: #90 unclassifiable

re: #59 CheDub

Nope, it will be 2000 and 2004 all over again.

And the Dems will lose.

And the whining will be incessant.

But I have hope.

Because a lot of us have seen 8 years of this. And like a tired worn out sitcom, my bet is that the electorate won't tune in this time.

* * *
Landslide would be much better.

92 astronmr20  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:51:52am
93 astronmr20  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:52:17am

re: #92 astronmr20

Oops.. wrong thread.

94 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:53:11am

re: #81 lawhawk

The damage has already been done. But as you say, better late than never.

What if this makes it more likely that an IDF strike might be approved on Iran's nuke sites, between Nov. & Jan.? I don't know Israeli politics.

95 Teacake!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:53:18am

Ya know the other Les, it just now struck me as American Idol - when an armature makes it to the big time.

I hope the pressure gets to him as well. If anything, someone who wants to hold the Office needs to be able to handle extreme pressure.

96 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:53:34am

re: #93 astronmr20

Oops.. wrong thread.

Still applicable here as well!

97 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:54:22am

Contest: Win a date with Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton’s newest tactic to pay off her remaining campaign debt involves “dinner under the stars.”

Clinton’s campaign launched a contest – contributors are automatically entered – and the grand prize is a dinner for you and a guest with Clinton herself.

“This is my first chance to sit down and spend some real one-on-one time with you. If you enter today, we could be having dinner together soon!” Clinton says in the e-mail announcing the contest. She also expresses appreciation for all the free time on her hands now that she’s done campaigning for the presidency.

Easy, now don't trample each other racing to sign up.
/

98 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:55:10am

re: #95 Teacake!

Ya know the other Les, it just now struck me as American Idol - when an armature makes it to the big time.

I hope the pressure gets to him as well. If anything, someone who wants to hold the Office needs to be able to handle extreme pressure.

Extreme pressure?
But he's The BO!
He's in a bubble - there is no pressure at all, not for The Symbol!

99 Teacake!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:56:09am

Actually i don't think these latest comments are nearly as arrogant as when he replaced the American flag with his personal logo on the air force jet.

100 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:57:32am

re: #95 Teacake!

Ya know the other Les, it just now struck me as American Idol - when an armature makes it to the big time.

I hope the pressure gets to him as well. If anything, someone who wants to hold the Office needs to be able to handle extreme pressure.

He probably couldn't deal with the problem of constantly replacing the drummers.

101 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:57:44am

re: #99 Teacake!

Actually i don't think these latest comments are nearly as arrogant as when he replaced the American flag with his personal logo on the air force jet.

Leased commercial jet, not a US Air Force plane.

102 Alberta Oil Peon  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:58:04am

re: #39 Teacake!

isn't that Greek myth about the guy with wax and feather wings who flew too close to the sun - about hubris?

You mean Icarus?

I'd say hubris played a part in that, yes.

103 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:59:02am

re: #97 jcm

Contest: Win a date with Hillary Clinton

Easy, now don't trample each other racing to sign up.
/

I'd rather go on a date with Joan Collins.

104 Teacake!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:59:18am

Well,still, he defaced a flag and put his logo on it just the same. Could have left the flag alone. I took that as a very creepy statement.

105 astronmr20  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:00:28am

re: #103 The Other Les

I'd rather go on a date with Joan Collins.

I'd rather go on a date with my blender.

106 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:00:30am

re: #99 Teacake!

Actually i don't think these latest comments are nearly as arrogant as when he replaced the American flag with his personal logo on the air force jet.

That's an Air Force jet?

I thought it was a private charter plane.

107 Teacake!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:00:45am

And whoever coined the term Obamanation was so right on in so many ways.

108 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:01:20am

New Obama Poster spoof - Obama as The Joker

109 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:01:22am

I don't have a tv; consequently, I haven't been able to watch debates or the news, so get the headlines from online news websites or LGF. My computer is old and doesn't like to play live video, or whatever you call it. Today I got onto my husband's new computer and for the first time, was able to watch some speeches given by McCain and Obama.

And I'm worried. Because McCain sounds like a pussy, not to mention he's a total bore, and that voice of his grates on my nerves something fierce. Obama, on the other hand, empty suit that he is, sounds like a man, and has charm and charisma.

I don't see McCain winning. You can ding me down if you want to, but I'm just expressing my concerns. I don't know how on earth we ended up with McCain as our nominee. I can't fathom how he managed to pull out so far ahead of all the other candidates. What has he got? Anyone? I mean, other than that he's not Obama. Does he have any good ideas? Any promising plans? Anything?

110 saberry0530  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:01:30am

re: #80 Ojoe

Barf.

"BARFOLOMEW!"

111 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:02:10am

re: #103 The Other Les

I'd rather go on a date with Joan Collins.

Hey, a sure thing is a sure thing.

112 TN_Vol  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:02:49am

Arrogance is right at home with the DNC. Speaker Pelosi can't allow drilling because she "is trying to save the world".

All by herself.

What a gal.

113 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:03:11am

re: #99 Teacake!

Actually i don't think these latest comments are nearly as arrogant as when he replaced the American flag with his personal logo on the air force jet.

It's leased from North American Airlines, a charter line. N-number is N755NA. Its actual owner is International Lease Finance Corporation (they own lots of airliners).

114 geata  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:04:49am

As a football fan, I think a great comparison for Obama is the New England Patriots. They are incredibly arrogant and cocky, and classless to boot. They have a throng of supporters who are completely and totally irrational, and everyone else hates them. And yet they're so damn good that everyone who watches senses that the final result is inevitable, and it is only a matter of how much the Pats win by.

Of course, they lost in the Super Bowl when it really counted.

115 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:09:30am

re: #109 American Jewess In Jerusalem


ummm, I think you need to observe more than one day on your husbands computer before making a blanket statement like that. you are entitled to your opinion, and many share it, but don't judge so quickly. and just an observation, sounding good, charisma and charm does not make a capable leader....I will take hard work, honesty and experience over the points you named.

116 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:15:01am

re: #109 American Jewess In Jerusalem

The clips you see where BHO is articulate, charismatic, and charming are when is on prepared text. Get him off text and....

117 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:16:44am

Yikes! It's worse that I thought, with even the solid wall of media support starting to crack.
Obama is going down to a defeat of monumental proportions.
The media, sycophantic lefties though they are, sense this and are hedging their bets.

118 Catttt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:19:36am
Inside, according to a witness, he told the House members, “This is the moment . . . that the world is waiting for."

Not quite. I'm waiting for the moment Gerard Butler falls madly in love with me. Alternatively, I'd accept the moment a tax-free check for - oh say 2 million bucks (don't want to be greedy) arrives in my name.

119 Neo_  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:20:56am
Barack Obama said Friday that persuading NATO allies to contribute more troops to Afghanistan could lead to U.S. troop cuts and help improve the U.S. economy, with reduced military expenditure being diverted into tax cuts to help middle class families.

.. German responds ..

Secretary General of the opposition German Free Democrats, Dieter Niebel, responded to Mr. Obama by telling the Bild am Sonntag that:

“Under no circumstances will the German taxpayer pay with more money and more troops for Afghanistan for tax cuts in the U.S.”

Erwin Huber, chairman of the center-right Christian Social Union of Bavaria, called Mr. Obama’s statement “a disappointment for Europe and Germany.”

Mr. Huber, who belongs to the sister party of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democrats, also said, "it is the opposite of solidarity and partnership when one side is to make more sacrifices and the other gains an advantage from it.”

Just like 9-11 .. for a couple of hours we are "all Americans" then the other shoe drops.

Obama has ruined our relations with German. It's all downhill from here.

Obama who is turning out to be more like Bush than McCain; Obama is at least as arrogant as W, just more polished.

120 DistantThunder  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:22:55am

America is ready for a black president - but we are not ready for a metrosexual president.

121 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:26:47am
122 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:28:44am

re: #119 Neo_

Getting the Germans annoyed, who were sooo in love with BO, that really takes some doing!

123 TN_Vol  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:30:13am

re: #120 DistantThunder

America is ready for a black president - but we are not ready for a metrosexual president.

I think Americaa is ready for a black President also, just not one that is a completely self absorbed doofus.

124 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:30:23am

re: #120 DistantThunder

America is ready for a black president - but we are not ready for a metrosexual symbol as president.

Fixed that for you.

I'll say 'The Symbol' forthwith when speaking about BO.

125 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:30:33am

re: #97 jcm

Contest: Win a date with Hillary Clinton

Easy, now don't trample each other racing to sign up.
/

Can win a dinner with one of Bill Clinton's *other* girlfriends?

126 nycrjmac  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:31:12am

re: "I have become a symbol of the possibility..."

Finally a phrase from Mr. Obama I agree with and believe in. Just as a magic wand and top hat are the symbols of magic, both are useless amusements.

I applaud his honesty.

127 Dolce  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:31:52am

Forgive my dumbness (I am European), but is this a satirical article like the one recently published by The Times about the Second Coming, or is it serious? If it IS serious, if this is all true - well, the man really has a monstrous ego.

Is Dana Milbank the only member of the press to notice this hubris?

As regards America's best tradition - a branch of my family is American (they are called Turner) and one of the things I really like about them is their straightforwardness, and lack of pretence, and the habit of getting on with things rather than make such a song and dance about them.

128 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:36:03am

re: #127 Dolce

Forgive my dumbness (I am European), but is this a satirical article like the one recently published by The Times about the Second Coming, or is it serious? If it IS serious, if this is all true - well, the man really has a monstrous ego.


Being European (by itself) doesn't make you dumb.
Its not satire at all, its a straight article.
And apparently other members of the press *are* beginning to notice Obama's arrogance.

129 2SoonOld2LateSmart  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:36:48am

This Is The Momemt. . .

/With apologies to Elvis fans wherever they are.

130 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:37:15am

re: #8 Iron Fist

Those damn voters think they have the right to choose the President! Imagine the hubris...

Well...technically speaking, it's the members of the Electoral College that have the right to choose the POTUS, not so much us individual Americans. But I get your point.

131 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:38:00am

re: #127 Dolce

Forgive my dumbness (I am European), but is this a satirical article like the one recently published by The Times about the Second Coming, or is it serious? If it IS serious, if this is all true - well, the man really has a monstrous ego.

Is Dana Milbank the only member of the press to notice this hubris?

As regards America's best tradition - a branch of my family is American (they are called Turner) and one of the things I really like about them is their straightforwardness, and lack of pretence, and the habit of getting on with things rather than make such a song and dance about them.

Yes Obama's ego is that ridiculous. He has gotten an enormously easy ride with a very thin level of performance. American Practicality is an Anglo-Saxon and Scots-Irish inheritance.

132 shane  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:40:21am

You should read the comments there. Most of the Obamaniacs have no grasp on the word irony.

133 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:40:25am

Charles, come on. And everybody else.

I feel like I'm forced to defend someone I don't like here. Has no one considered the context of Obama's quote? It completely changes the meaning.

134 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:41:34am

Compare Obama's arrogance during the campaign to Bush's during his original campaign.

135 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:42:28am

re: #127 Dolce

Forgive my dumbness (I am European), but is this a satirical article like the one recently published by The Times about the Second Coming, or is it serious? If it IS serious, if this is all true - well, the man really has a monstrous ego.

Is Dana Milbank the only member of the press to notice this hubris?

As regards America's best tradition - a branch of my family is American (they are called Turner) and one of the things I really like about them is their straightforwardness, and lack of pretence, and the habit of getting on with things rather than make such a song and dance about them.

It is factually accurate in a sarcastic tone. The facts are there - Obama is self obsessed and his cadre of advisers expect the press to treat Obama as a president with the appropriate deference.

136 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:42:46am

re: #133 Cognito

Charles, come on. And everybody else.

I feel like I'm forced to defend someone I don't like here. Has no one considered the context of Obama's quote? It completely changes the meaning.

Explain, please.

137 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:43:27am

re: #109 American Jewess In Jerusalem

I don't have a tv; consequently, I haven't been able to watch debates or the news, so get the headlines from online news websites or LGF. My computer is old and doesn't like to play live video, or whatever you call it. Today I got onto my husband's new computer and for the first time, was able to watch some speeches given by McCain and Obama.

And I'm worried. Because McCain sounds like a pussy, not to mention he's a total bore, and that voice of his grates on my nerves something fierce. Obama, on the other hand, empty suit that he is, sounds like a man, and has charm and charisma.

I don't see McCain winning. You can ding me down if you want to, but I'm just expressing my concerns. I don't know how on earth we ended up with McCain as our nominee. I can't fathom how he managed to pull out so far ahead of all the other candidates. What has he got? Anyone? I mean, other than that he's not Obama. Does he have any good ideas? Any promising plans? Anything?

* * *
For one thing, since you're clearly not paying attention, McCain is a fierce defender of Israel. McCain's a free trader, low tax, freedom kind of Republican. Pro-life, pro-liberty, pro-winning wars that matter greatly. Pro-choice with respect to health insurance ideas to lower cost of health care in the US. Pro-respecting what makes America America.

138 CofactorMatrix  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:45:03am

What an unbelievably pompous ass! I think this twit actually believes his own campaign BS. I'll betcha if you gave him $50 and a fur coat, he'd think he was King Kong.

I used to be suspicious of this mental midget. No longer. I now know he's dangerous. The nonsensical, rambling speeches, the faux seal, the jaw-dropping hubris. He's starting to sound and behave like a 2-bit African dictator.

139 vagabond trader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:45:35am

A black co-worker once told me an old ethnic expression which seems apt to describe the Obama's high opinion of himself. The guy is walking around with his azz on his shoulders.

140 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:46:01am

re: #136 yma o hyd

Explain, please.

It's pretty clear that Milbank misreported this quote, using an egregious redaction of this:

"It has become increasingly clear in my travel, the campaign, that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, is not about me at all. It's about America. I have just become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions.”

That version has been confirmed by folks who were there, both who like and don't like Obama.

141 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:46:34am

re: #133 Cognito

Charles, come on. And everybody else.

I feel like I'm forced to defend someone I don't like here. Has no one considered the context of Obama's quote? It completely changes the meaning.

Ummmm. The entire bit by WAPO is the context. The context of a campaign that has gotten as secretive and self important as Bush/Cheney were ever accused of. Each fact cited supports the reporting of that context.

Context is Milbank's entire point.

142 Dolce  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:47:40am

#128 and #131

I hope that being half British I pass muster.

However, it is difficult to get good reports concerning the US in some European countries - I mean reports that feel the people's pulse. Sarah Baxter of the Sunday Times is not bad, but some "respected" Italian US correspondents manage to get it wrong on a regular basis (they made an absolute mess of the Scooter Libby/Valerie Plame business and they see neocons everywhere).

By the way, if Senator Obama doesn't become President, how many people (actors, intellectuals etc) are going to migrate to our shores? Just to get ready before the landing....

143 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:47:54am

re: #141 karmic_inquisitor

Ummmm. The entire bit by WAPO is the context. The context of a campaign that has gotten as secretive and self important as Bush/Cheney were ever accused of. Each fact cited supports the reporting of that context.

Context is Milbank's entire point.

That's 'fake but accurate' at its highest level.

I think Obama is indeed an apparently arrogant guy, behaving in an arrogant way, et cetera. But the quote is wrong.

144 kamaz  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:48:37am

You guys realize this article is satire right?

its critical of Obama's hubris

145 CommonCents  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:48:57am

re: #18 DeathtotheSwiss

This only makes me want him to lose that much more. I would love, in that most fortunate event, to watch the smug arrogant smile get wiped off his big stupid face.

Big stupid face? I was told he was an attractive candidate. By the "news" no less, therefore it must be true.

Everytime I hear it repeated I think of the dismal health care system that allowed so many people to lose their vision.

146 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:49:06am

re: #127 Dolce

Forgive my dumbness (I am European), but is this a satirical article like the one recently published by The Times about the Second Coming, or is it serious? If it IS serious, if this is all true - well, the man really has a monstrous ego.

Is Dana Milbank the only member of the press to notice this hubris?

Yes, it's satire. If you go to the Washington Post web site and search on Milbank, you'll see that he publishes satirical articles regularly--at least weekly and sometimes more often. That's his specialty.

147 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:49:10am

re: #144 kamaz

You guys realize this article is satire right?

its critical of Obama's hubris

Not satire. It's straight reporting.

148 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:49:58am

re: #140 Cognito,

I have just become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions

You don't see the arrogance in that statement?
149 vagabond trader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:51:36am

Satire or not, the premise is accurate.

150 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:51:36am

re: #142 Dolce

By the way, if Senator Obama doesn't become President, how many people (actors, intellectuals etc) are going to migrate to our shores? Just to get ready before the landing....

Those brand of threats promises have always proven to be empty. I think you're safe.

//p.s., you can keep Madonna, we've long since been done with her :)

151 lifeofthemind  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:52:21am

re: #142 Dolce

#128 and #131

By the way, if Senator Obama doesn't become President, how many people (actors, intellectuals etc) are going to migrate to our shores? Just to get ready before the landing....


About as many as fled to exile when Bush was elected.

152 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:53:13am

re: #148 Iron Fist

,

You don't see the arrogance in that statement?

He's arrogant. But that statement isn't. In context it means something completely different.

He's explaining why 200,000 people -- that's equal to a successful rock music festival -- showed up, and saying, "It wasn't for me, really."

I would argue otherwise, really. I don't believe those 200,000 people showed up because of some great love for America. That's a crock. They were there to see the world's biggest celebrity.

And THAT's creepy.

153 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:53:28am

re: #140 Cognito

It's pretty clear that Milbank misreported this quote, using an egregious redaction of this:

"It has become increasingly clear in my travel, the campaign, that the crowds, the enthusiasm, 200,000 people in Berlin, is not about me at all. It's about America. I have just become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions.”

That version has been confirmed by folks who were there, both who like and don't like Obama.

Ah so.
So he said a) that the crowds and their enthusiasm was not about him, but about America.
Ok.
But he still followed it with the quote that he, BO, has become the symbol etc., has he not?
Why is this leap from crowd-enthusiasm being for America and not for him, to him having become a symbol etc ,not indicative of hubris?

154 amphibian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:54:42am

re: #4 lawhawk

Curiously, the American people have found Obama's act tiring, even if they don't particularly care for McCain. Despite his incessant play to look Presidential - from the Obama seal to the European and ME trip, he's virtually tied with McCain and received absolutely no benefit from the foreign trip.

Hubris and ego are going to be his downfall.

Don't write a Greek tragedy about Ears Boy just yet. So far, this still looks like a close one. We can relax when Hussein is defeated.

155 Irish Rose  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:55:25am

I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Even if I hated John McCain with every fibre of my being, I'd be willing to give him four years in office just for the satisfaction of seeing this smug, arrogant prick have to stand up in front of the global media with his smug, arrogant bitter half and give a concession speech.

The Dem meltdown would just be icing on the cake.

156 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:55:57am

re: #121 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Zimbabwe devalues currency; 10B becomes 1 dollar

Meanwhile, wheelbarrow sales are oddly up.

157 CommonCents  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:56:15am

re: #152 Cognito

He's arrogant. But that statement isn't. In context it means something completely different.

He's explaining why 200,000 people -- that's equal to a successful rock music festival -- showed up, and saying, "It wasn't for me, really."

I would argue otherwise, really. I don't believe those 200,000 people showed up because of some great love for America. That's a crock. They were there to see the world's biggest celebrity.

And THAT's creepy.

IMO, those 200,000 showed up because they loathe America, not loved. And not surprisingly found a bond with a man who for 20 years was instructed by his 'spiritual leader' to loathe America.

158 brakes  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:56:30am

re: #152 Cognito

Actually they came for a rock concert, and the people were eating and drinking having a party. They didn't just come to see the Great One.

159 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:56:37am

re: #157 CommonCents

Exactly.

160 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:57:05am

re: #152 Cognito

He's arrogant. But that statement isn't. In context it means something completely different.

He's explaining why 200,000 people -- that's equal to a successful rock music festival -- showed up, and saying, "It wasn't for me, really."

I would argue otherwise, really. I don't believe those 200,000 people showed up because of some great love for America. That's a crock. They were there to see the world's biggest celebrity.

And THAT's creepy.

* * *
200,000 showed up for a concert & free beer & frankfurters.
They stayed for the freak show.

161 nigella  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:57:31am

Senator Obama,"the possibility of returning to our best traditions?" It is because of people like you, and Nancy , and Harry, etc., that are "best" traditions have been destroyed.How could you and your ilk ever be able to repair the damage. Shame on you ......

162 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:57:50am

re: #153 yma o hyd

Ah so.
So he said a) that the crowds and their enthusiasm was not about him, but about America.
Ok.
But he still followed it with the quote that he, BO, has become the symbol etc., has he not?
Why is this leap from crowd-enthusiasm being for America and not for him, to him having become a symbol etc ,not indicative of hubris?

Because of the word "just". With that word included, the sentence means, "I am merely a symbol." It diminishes his own importance in relation to enthusiasm about America more generally.

163 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:58:13am

re: #154 amphibian

We can relax when Hussein is defeated.


Nope!

We have to keep a tight leash on McCain, he has a tendency to veer left.
The battle to keep the Republic will go on, the leftist in Congress need to be show the door and their ideology so discredited it will be anathema.

164 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:59:36am

re: #158 brakes

Actually they came for a rock concert, and the people were eating and drinking having a party. They didn't just come to see the Great One.

You might want to check into the attendance records of some major rock concerts. Bruce Springsteen toured Europe recently. You could check to see whether he attracted an audience of 200,000 to any of his concerts. That'd give you a way to assess the importance of the bands in attracting that audience.

165 HippieforLife  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:59:43am

re: #138 CofactorMatrix

Maybe he will show up at the convention with his gold braid and big-ass epaulets! Oh, and all of his medals for courage.

After all, he has a friend who is a mad bomber!

166 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:59:50am

re: #160 alegrias

* * *
200,000 showed up for a concert & free beer & frankfurters.
They stayed for the freak show.

200,000 showed up for a concert & free beer & frankfurters.
20,000 stayed for the freak show.

167 Iron Fist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:59:56am

re: #152 Cognito,

The last time the Germans got into a Cult of Personality (which is what the Obama phenomenon is), the results were less than spectacular for the world. I agree, it is creepy that 200,000 Germans turned out for Obama.

168 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:00:31pm

re: #164 JustMyView

You might want to check into the attendance records of some major rock concerts. Bruce Springsteen toured Europe recently. You could check to see whether he attracted an audience of 200,000 to any of his concerts. That'd give you a way to assess the importance of the bands in attracting that audience.

The Boss gave free concerts?

169 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:00:48pm

re: #163 jcm

Nope!

We have to keep a tight leash on McCain, he has a tendency to veer left.
The battle to keep the Republic will go on, the leftist in Congress need to be show the door and their ideology so discredited it will be anathema.

* * *
I'm betting McCain won't be veering left so much in future methinks, after all his former democrat "colleagues" and media sycophants threw McCain under his own bus for their Miracle Candidate.

170 amphibian  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:01:55pm

re: #39 Teacake!

isn't that Greek myth about the guy with wax and feather wings who flew too close to the sun - about hubris?

Youthful exuberance, I always thought. In Icarus' case, tragic. In Hussein's... please bring the popcorn.

171 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:02:07pm

re: #169 alegrias

* * *
I'm betting McCain won't be veering left so much in future methinks, after all his former democrat "colleagues" and media sycophants threw McCain under his own bus for their Miracle Candidate.

I hope so, gonna' keep an eye on him.....

172 brakes  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:02:12pm

re: #164 JustMyView

I heard the number 200,000 was greatly exaggerated anyway.

173 Neo_  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:02:33pm

Why does this feel so much like Vince Foster deja vu ?

174 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:02:48pm

re: #168 jcm

The Boss gave free concerts?

Sure - with free beer and brats, silly!

175 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:03:07pm

re: #166 jcm

200,000 showed up for a concert & free beer & frankfurters.
20,000 stayed for the freak show.

* * *
Even better, thanks!

Maybe 20,000 stayed until the post-concert parking lot crush cleared.

176 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:05:01pm

re: #162 JustMyView

Because of the word "just". With that word included, the sentence means, "I am merely a symbol." It diminishes his own importance in relation to enthusiasm about America more generally.

You dont get it that, regardless of calling himself 'just' a symbol or just 'a symbol', the point is that no man with his feet on the ground would regard himself as being a symbol.
The point being that others may well whisper of him being such, but that even a very small drop of common sense forbids it to designate oneself like that.
Doing so shows that one has a hypertrophical sense of oneself - a.k.a. megalomany.

177 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:05:18pm

re: #174 debutaunt

re: #168 jcm

The Boss gave free concerts?

Sure - with free beer and brats, silly!

Hmmm free beer and brats! Now will some one stop that noise!

178 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:05:45pm

re: #163 jcm

Even if all of that is achieved (I can hope), much diligence will still be warranted. This nation has always struggled against the enemies of freedom, many of which come from within.

179 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:06:44pm

re: #164 JustMyView

You might want to check into the attendance records of some major rock concerts. Bruce Springsteen toured Europe recently. You could check to see whether he attracted an audience of 200,000 to any of his concerts. That'd give you a way to assess the importance of the bands in attracting that audience.

You were online when the size of the crowd was talked about - so you must be aware that German TV reckoned there were 20.00 there, certainly less than 100.000.
Look it up the the LGF archive - i can't be bothered.

180 brakes  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:07:20pm

I hope more and more people realize how arrogant Obama is, because most Americans can't abide that.

181 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:10:16pm

re: #176 yma o hyd

It sounds like you want him to say nothing at all, when he must say something: Clearly there's something freakish going on around the guy -- whether the crowd numbered exactly 200,000 is picking nits -- and so demands a comment of some sort.

He could say, "Well, it's me." Or he could say, "It's not really me."

He said the latter.

Now that doesn't make him humble -- there's much evidence otherwise. But it does make the quote inaccurate.

182 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:10:27pm

re: #168 jcm

The Boss gave free concerts?

Good point, but even so, this idea that all those people came to hear free concerts is nuts. And it's patently obvious that they didn't, as someone suggested above, leave when the music was over. We have the pictures to tell us that.

183 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:10:34pm

re: #177 jcm

Hmmm free beer and brats! Now will some one stop that noise!

* * *
By noise do you mean Springsteen or haughty self-reverent Pseudo-Presidential bloviating that's not even in host-language German?

184 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:12:53pm

re: #182 JustMyView

Good point, but even so, this idea that all those people came to hear free concerts is nuts. And it's patently obvious that they didn't, as someone suggested above, leave when the music was over. We have the pictures to tell us that.

* * *
I blame the very large, very strong DEUTSCHES BIER, and the long lines for the facilities.

185 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:13:06pm

re: #183 alegrias

* * *
By noise do you mean Springsteen or haughty self-reverent Pseudo-Presidential bloviating that's not even in host-language German?

I'm trying to imagine the conniption fits in the comments, here, if he had spoken something other than English.

186 AZDave  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:13:06pm

As he marches toward Inauguration Day ..., Obama’s biggest challenger may not be Republican John McCain but rather his own hubris.

Looked the word up in my dictionary. Obama's picture was on display.

187 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:13:11pm

re: #183 alegrias

* * *
By noise do you mean Springsteen or haughty self-reverent Pseudo-Presidential bloviating that's not even in host-language German?

Yawhol!

188 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:17:46pm

re: #185 Cognito

I'm trying to imagine the conniption fits in the comments, here, if he had spoken something other than English.

Amen!

189 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:17:57pm

re: #181 Cognito

It sounds like you want him to say nothing at all, when he must say something: Clearly there's something freakish going on around the guy -- whether the crowd numbered exactly 200,000 is picking nits -- and so demands a comment of some sort.

He could say, "Well, it's me." Or he could say, "It's not really me."

He said the latter.

Now that doesn't make him humble -- there's much evidence otherwise. But it does make the quote inaccurate.

Naw - see, if he just stopped after saying that the enthusiasm was for America really, and not for just him - that would have been good and would have shown that he, as politician, can grasp the difference between home and foreign crowds.
No problem there at all.

But the he goes and twists it into himself now being the symbol for America - and that is where his overweening pride makes him blind for the consequences.

Leaving this symbolism aside - what worth is a politician who sees the events in the world only as how they relate to his own person, and who cannot, on top of that, keep his outh shut in public about it?

190 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:18:34pm

re: #185 Cognito

I'm trying to imagine the conniption fits in the comments, here, if he had spoken something other than English.

* * *
He did lecture Americans to learn other languages. I humbly suggest he could have continued to emulate JFK and sung from a Munich beer hall song:

Ja, ja, ja, ja
(Du) Weiss nicht wie gut ich Dir bin.

(You don't know how awesome I am for you)

Audacious but in character, especially for folks who'd been drinking free Bier all day.

Merci Beau coup!

191 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:18:44pm

re: #184 alegrias

* * *
I blame the very large, very strong DEUTSCHES BIER, and the long lines for the facilities.

And while they were waiting, they just happened to clap and cheer on the applause lines, I guess. Amazing.

192 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:20:24pm

re: #164 JustMyView

You might want to check into the attendance records of some major rock concerts. Bruce Springsteen toured Europe recently. You could check to see whether he attracted an audience of 200,000 to any of his concerts. That'd give you a way to assess the importance of the bands in attracting that audience.

Actual numbers for the Obama speech numbered around 20,000

193 vagabond trader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:21:39pm

re: #181 Cognito

lol, you refer to picking nits and then proceed to do exactly that.

194 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:21:52pm

re: #182 JustMyView

Good point, but even so, this idea that all those people came to hear free concerts is nuts. And it's patently obvious that they didn't, as someone suggested above, leave when the music was over. We have the pictures to tell us that.

Its nuts to think that people wouldn't come to a free concert, on a nice warm summer evening?
Oh dear ...
And the fact that there were a lot of American tourists in the crowd counts for nothing, nor the fact that Beerliners are generally a hard-boiled lot, with a typical reaction (reported ehre by a German Lizard) being that this was a con trick.
('Was fuer 'ne Verarsche' was the quote, in precise Berlin slang!)

195 Joan Not of Arc  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:21:59pm

Could he be any more full of himself?

196 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:22:54pm
197 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:23:50pm

re: #189 yma o hyd


Leaving this symbolism aside - what worth is a politician who sees the events in the world only as how they relate to his own person, and who cannot, on top of that, keep his outh shut in public about it?

According to a Congressman who was at the meeting, he was countering congratulations from other Congressional representatives about the Berlin speech. It was they who were making the conversation about him, and he was contradicting them. And, to be fair, he was not making a public speech. He was talking to a closed meeting of Congresspeople and their staffs. That's why there's no tape of what he said.

198 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:23:51pm

re: #191 JustMyView

And while they were waiting, they just happened to clap and cheer on the applause lines, I guess. Amazing.

Gah!
That applause was one of the least enthusiastic I've heard in quite a while, with the nice shouts of 'O-Ba-Ma' so very well stage-manenred that it was even crystal clear on the video.

199 Dolce  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:23:58pm

Am I wrong or Al Gore claimed that he had invented the Internet, before the Nobel prize was bestowed on him?... That wasn't bad either.

200 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:24:15pm

re: #191 JustMyView

And while they were waiting, they just happened to clap and cheer on the applause lines, I guess. Amazing.

* * *
You recognize it was written to earn German applause! We're making progress here.

Ja wohl, Y'all! Ich bin ein Citizen of the World.

201 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:24:16pm

re: #192 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Actual numbers for the Obama speech numbered around 20,000

What is your source on this?

202 vagabond trader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:24:58pm

Who gives a flying leap how many Germans and tourists turned out to hear the Princess Obama. They can't vote, we can, and this will be his last tour of the EU as presumptive or actual POTUS.

203 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:26:08pm

re: #202 vagabond trader

Who gives a flying leap how many Germans and tourists turned out to hear the Princess Obama. They can't vote, we can, and this will be his last tour of the EU as presumptive or actual POTUS.

* * *
Danke Schoen! Gott sei Dank!

204 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:26:57pm

re: #197 JustMyView

According to a Congressman who was at the meeting, he was countering congratulations from other Congressional representatives about the Berlin speech. It was they who were making the conversation about him, and he was contradicting them. And, to be fair, he was not making a public speech. He was talking to a closed meeting of Congresspeople and their staffs. That's why there's no tape of what he said.

A politician, a proper one, has learned that, once elected, there is no such thing as 'not being in public' when others are around - with the exception of his family, and sometiems even not then.
Hugely naive of The Symbol to assume that everybody would keep quiet about this meeting - after all, it wasn't a secret meeting, was it?

205 yma o hyd  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:28:05pm

re: #202 vagabond trader

Who gives a flying leap how many Germans and tourists turned out to hear the Princess Obama. They can't vote, we can, and this will be his last tour of the EU as presumptive or actual POTUS.

And a good thing too!

206 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:29:55pm

re: #198 yma o hyd

Gah!
That applause was one of the least enthusiastic I've heard in quite a while, with the nice shouts of 'O-Ba-Ma' so very well stage-manenred that it was even crystal clear on the video.

You're cracking me up.

A vast number of people showed up and cheered Obama in Germany. Vast.

Pretending it was all somehow a shame, staged just-so, makes you seem out of touch with reality. (People couldn't muster proper applause, for instance, but the chants of his name were too perfectly mustered? Come on.)

207 HDrepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:30:53pm
208 chief long name  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:31:55pm

re: #196 buzzsawmonkey
Buzz! Are you still here?

209 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:32:26pm

re: #137 alegrias

You missed my points entirely.

My main point is that for many Americans on the fence, Obama is clearly the more attractive candidate.

My other point is that McCain's triumph over the other GOP candidates is perplexing. I am not asking why I shouldn't vote for McCain over Obama -- I'm asking why he came out ahead of the other Republican candidates. All of them are fierce defenders of Israel, and have more or less conservative values. What has McCain got that caused him to get the GOP nomination?


I'm drawing a blank.

210 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:32:49pm

"Sham," that is.

211 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:34:17pm

re: #148 Iron Fist

,

You don't see the arrogance in that statement?


If Cognito is correct, then it really does change the meaning of Obama's statement.

He's still an arrogant ass.

212 HDrepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:37:45pm

re: #206 Cognito


A vast number of people showed up and cheered Obama in Germany. Vast.

No I believe a vast number of people have been led to believe a vast number turned out, but German public television ZDF said maybe a tenth of what was widely estimated.

213 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:37:56pm

re: #207 HDrepub

What is your source on this?

Your source introduced doubt, but doesn't provide a convincing estimate of any other number, certainly not one one-tenth the size of the most commonly cited figure. Click on the link at the bottom of the page you sent me too, and you'll find that the author ends up saying that his later consultations w/ the Berlin police yielded the 200K number. He doesn't necessarily accept it, but he doesn't have any empirical basis for rejecting it.

214 Tigger2005  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:41:54pm

re: #209 American Jewess In Jerusalem

You missed my points entirely.

My main point is that for many Americans on the fence, Obama is clearly the more attractive candidate.

My other point is that McCain's triumph over the other GOP candidates is perplexing. I am not asking why I shouldn't vote for McCain over Obama -- I'm asking why he came out ahead of the other Republican candidates. All of them are fierce defenders of Israel, and have more or less conservative values. What has McCain got that caused him to get the GOP nomination?


I'm drawing a blank.

Don't ask me. I wanted Fred or Rudy. But McCain will have to do. And a guy who survived years in a Vietnamese prison will not crack under pressure.

215 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:42:15pm

re: #201 JustMyView

What is your source on this?

German newspapers

216 Tigger2005  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:42:55pm

re: #206 Cognito

You're cracking me up.

A vast number of people showed up and cheered Obama in Germany. Vast.)

Vast! Vast do you hear me? VAST!

217 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:43:04pm

re: #209 American Jewess In Jerusalem

You missed my points entirely.

My main point is that for many Americans on the fence, Obama is clearly the more attractive candidate.

My other point is that McCain's triumph over the other GOP candidates is perplexing. I am not asking why I shouldn't vote for McCain over Obama -- I'm asking why he came out ahead of the other Republican candidates. All of them are fierce defenders of Israel, and have more or less conservative values. What has McCain got that caused him to get the GOP nomination?


I'm drawing a blank.

The other Republican candidates simply didn't attract a following. Thompson was a lackluster campaigner, seeming to hardly be able to stay awake. Giuliani is a poor fit to the national Republican party, which is much more conservative than he is, and he seemed to have no ideas other than to repeat 9/11 in every sentence. Romney was viewed (accurately) by many as a man w/ no principles, as he had changed his views on many topics important to social conservatives, and, furthermore, he is a Mormon, which made him unappealing to many evangelicals. Huckabee did appeal to evangelicals, but pretty much only to evangelicals. So, we ended up w/ McCain--more by default than by acclaim.

218 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:43:54pm

re: #215 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

German newspapers

See my answer above. I'd have to see the data to be convinced, and I do read a little German.

219 Omachka  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:44:49pm

re: #197 JustMyView

According to a Congressman who was at the meeting, he was countering congratulations from other Congressional representatives about the Berlin speech. It was they who were making the conversation about him, and he was contradicting them. And, to be fair, he was not making a public speech. He was talking to a closed meeting of Congresspeople and their staffs. That's why there's no tape of what he said.

Which Congressman? Do you have a link please?

220 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:45:18pm

re: #216 Tigger2005

It was an enormous crowd by any measure.

To argue otherwise only makes the arguer look silly.

221 HDrepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:45:53pm

re: #213 JustMyView

Your source introduced doubt, but doesn't provide a convincing estimate of any other number, certainly not one one-tenth the size of the most commonly cited figure. Click on the link at the bottom of the page you sent me too, and you'll find that the author ends up saying that his later consultations w/ the Berlin police yielded the 200K number. He doesn't necessarily accept it, but he doesn't have any empirical basis for rejecting it.

German Public Television ZDF estimated one tenth of 200,000.
It also said the rising estimates for the crowd were attributed to the Obama rally organizers.

As this German timeline indicates, the original source for the rapidly growing estimates was in fact the rally organizers: i.e. the Obama team. The 200,000 figure would also be attributed to the Berlin police -- which might represent the first time in modern history that the police and the organizers of a political rally agreed on their estimates of crowd size.

As the Berlin-based writer Christian J. Heinrich notes: "During the big anti-Bush demonstration after the fall of Baghdad, there were 250,000 people. And it looked totally different from yesterday. Then, you couldn't move all the way from the Brandenburg Gate to the Technical University [on the western side of Tiergarten park, another kilometer beyond the Siegessäule]."
You only understand the parts of the source that you wish to understand JMV. There is no empirical evidence for 200,000 either. Look at the picture. Oh I forgot there is another 180,000 tucked away in those trees, who couldn't see him but wanted to feel the tingle running up their legs when he spoke.

222 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:46:32pm
223 John1979  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:46:46pm

Wow, Dana's in danger of getting "Worst Person in the World" from Keith Olbermann tonight, after this little screen (Of course he won't get it -- unless he goes on O'Reilly to talk about the story -- but my guess is he's either not one of tonight's talking heads, or if he is, this snarky little piece of journalism doesn't get mentioned).

224 Tigger2005  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:47:28pm

re: #217 JustMyView

The other Republican candidates simply didn't attract a following. Thompson was a lackluster campaigner, seeming to hardly be able to stay awake. Giuliani is a poor fit to the national Republican party, which is much more conservative than he is, and he seemed to have no ideas other than to repeat 9/11 in every sentence. Romney was viewed (accurately) by many as a man w/ no principles, as he had changed his views on many topics important to social conservatives, and, furthermore, he is a Mormon, which made him unappealing to many evangelicals. Huckabee did appeal to evangelicals, but pretty much only to evangelicals. So, we ended up w/ McCain--more by default than by acclaim.

And it's stupid. People should have been voting for the person most like to be a good wartime President, not worrying about their personal agendas. Not that I don't think McCain will be a good wartime President. But I think Rudy's leadership on 9/11 (and his refusal of the Saudi prince's check), not to mention his brilliant mayoring of New York (he completely turned that city around) made him the best qualified candidate.

225 Tigger2005  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:47:52pm

re: #220 Cognito

It was an enormous crowd by any measure.

To argue otherwise only makes the arguer look silly.

Vast! It was VAST!

226 vagabond trader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:51:34pm

OT, anyone know what happened to the vaunted Obama shield/seal thingie? I'm thinking it might be worth a VAST amounts of bucks on ebay.

227 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:51:59pm
228 ladycatnip  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:52:00pm

His narcissism is disgusting. Manipulative, narcissistic and thoroughly bad for this country,

229 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:53:02pm

re: #219 Omachka

Which Congressman? Do you have a link please?

No link. It was on TV. The Congressman was Jim Clyburn, D-SC. He was pretty convincing.

230 HDrepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:53:49pm

Geez I'm surprised the Anointed One didn't get up before that VAST, VAST crowd of 200,000 (give or take a hundred eighty thousand) and start speaking in tongues.

231 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:55:51pm
232 Cognito  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:56:26pm

re: #225 Tigger2005

All right, it was a tiny crowd of seven or eight lost tourists..

(Say it enough, and it becomes true. Great political strategy. Can't lose.)

233 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:57:44pm

re: #221 HDrepub

As the Berlin-based writer Christian J. Heinrich notes: "During the big anti-Bush demonstration after the fall of Baghdad, there were 250,000 people. And it looked totally different from yesterday. Then, you couldn't move all the way from the Brandenburg Gate to the Technical University [on the western side of Tiergarten park, another kilometer beyond the Siegessäule]."
You only understand the parts of the source that you wish to understand JMV. There is no empirical evidence for 200,000 either. Look at the picture. Oh I forgot there is another 180,000 tucked away in those trees, who couldn't see him but wanted to feel the tingle running up their legs when he spoke.

You're citing the same source over again, and there's nothing authoritative in what you've said. Although the Berlin police estimate may not be perfect, I think it's more likely to be right than an estimate generated by somebody who is motivated to diminish the crowd size by dislike of Obama. It's simply not plausible to claim that that crowd was only 20,000 people. As Cognito said above, you're making yourself look silly. if you insist on being dismissive, you should find a more convincing way to do so.

234 HDrepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:58:55pm

re: #232 Cognito
200,000, 200,000, 200,000

(Say it enough, and it becomes true. Great political strategy. Can't lose.)

You are learning now Cognito.

235 chief long name  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 12:59:09pm

re: #222 buzzsawmonkey
Saw you comment a few weeks back (as I was lurking from work) that you're an ass man. This ones for you.

A woman wakes up every morning and stands nude in front of a full length mirror and asks her husband “How do I look?”

Husband says “You look just fine.”

Wife says “No, my breasts are too small.”

This goes on for a few years until the husband tiers of the question and instead of telling her she looks just fine responds “I hear that rubbing toilet paper in between you boobs will enlarge them.”

She excitedly rushes to the bathroom, pulls off several sheets and stands in front of the mirror vigorously rubbing away. Five minutes later she says “This isn’t working.”

The husband says ”Give it time, look what it did for your ass!”

236 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:01:00pm
237 vagabond trader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:03:56pm

OK, let me try this out. Any guys here have a big ole man crush on the Obama? Come on, fess up!

238 ladycatnip  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:04:34pm

Obama's answer to saving energy and offshore drilling: inflate your tires!

This guy is unreal.

239 HDrepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:05:12pm

re: #233 JustMyView

You're citing the same source over again, and there's nothing authoritative in what you've said. Although the Berlin police estimate may not be perfect, I think it's more likely to be right than an estimate generated by somebody who is motivated to diminish the crowd size by dislike of Obama. It's simply not plausible to claim that that crowd was only 20,000 people. As Cognito said above, you're making yourself look silly. if you insist on being dismissive, you should find a more convincing way to do so.

I'm citing the same source over again because you don't seem to understand all of it, just the parts you agree with. Now you are offering the straw man that ZDF doesn't like Obama.
ZDF as a matter of fact tried to assert that the CIA and Mossad were responsible for the 1986 disco bombing in Germany that took the lives of US soldiers along with others. I wouldn't offer them not being in the tank for Obama as an argument.
If you want to play that game maybe the Berlin police like Obama and overestimated. See where that's going JMV.

240 HippieforLife  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:07:19pm

He is an ass. Pure and simple. I detest his lines about "I look different that people you have seen before" as if he were the only one in the whole world who skin color is a dark brown.

Unless he is talking about his ears, of course! LOL!

But seriously, his arrogance is appalling. He would have us think that our country is soooooo terrible that he is the only one to lead us out of our wilderness. Why would he even want to be president of the USA if everything about our country is bad? Simple answer: Power! He wants to be worshipped, like a false idol. He can posture about being a "citizen of the world" but is too proud to quietly go visit wounded American soldiers. And then he lies about why he didn't go.
He is not a good person.

241 MeatPopsicle  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:09:00pm

It's a sham e, but also probably true, that he will win POTUS.

And when he eventually face plants as POTUS, and he most certainly will, I sure hope it's laughable, not devastating, because the karma train is coming and when it hits it's going to be one helluva train wreck.

242 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:10:47pm

re: #239 HDrepub

I'm citing the same source over again because you don't seem to understand all of it, just the parts you agree with. Now you are offering the straw man that ZDF doesn't like Obama.
ZDF as a matter of fact tried to assert that the CIA and Mossad were responsible for the 1986 disco bombing in Germany that took the lives of US soldiers along with others. I wouldn't offer them not being in the tank for Obama as an argument.
If you want to play that game maybe the Berlin police like Obama and overestimated. See where that's going JMV.

Sorry, I just didn't find that source convincing. I didn't need the police estimate to tell me that there were more than 20,000 people there.

Why spend so much time trying to discredit the most plausible source, i.e., the police who are familiar w/ the space and have dealt w/ large crowds in that area on other occasions.

There are plenty of other things to criticize Obama for, but it defies credulity to say that that crowd contained only 20,000 people. Not even the McCain campaign has tried to make that argument.

I think this is as far as i want to go on this topic, unless you have some compelling new evidence. I did, though, do a little searching and didn't find any other sources who were questioning the police estimate. Not saying there aren't any, but they didn't turn up.

243 Tigger2005  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:12:14pm

re: #232 Cognito

All right, it was a tiny crowd of seven or eight lost tourists..

(Say it enough, and it becomes true. Great political strategy. Can't lose.)

What are you talking about? I said it was VAST!

244 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:13:22pm

re: #243 Tigger2005

What are you talking about? I said it was VAST!

Vast and sober.

245 JustMyView  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:13:56pm

re: #240 HippieforLife


But seriously, his arrogance is appalling. He would have us think that our country is soooooo terrible that he is the only one to lead us out of our wilderness. Why would he even want to be president of the USA if everything about our country is bad? Simple answer: Power! He wants to be worshipped, like a false idol. He can posture about being a "citizen of the world" but is too proud to quietly go visit wounded American soldiers. And then he lies about why he didn't go.
He is not a good person.

You should have your hearing aids checked. Obama said nothing negative about the United States in the Berlin speech, and I've never heard him say anything beyond the bounds of normal political discourse in any other speech either. Also, you should check the latest reporting on the hospital visit incident, as two separate investigations have failed to turn up any evidence that he cancelled the visit because he couldn't take cameras.

246 HDrepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:15:15pm

re: #242 JustMyView

I think this is as far as i want to go on this topic, unless you have some compelling new evidence


Unless you have some compelling new evidence like wise. Believe the Obama spin if you want to, it's a free country.

247 HDrepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:21:09pm

re: #231 buzzsawmonkey

He only speaks English.

Yes I know, I was being facetious.

248 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:22:37pm

re: #245 JustMyView

Also, you should check the latest reporting on the hospital visit incident, as two separate investigations have failed to turn up any evidence that he cancelled the visit because he couldn't take cameras.

So why didn't he go? The soldiers would have loved to see him. Isn't that reason enough to go?

Every passing day, Obama becomes more & more insufferably arrogant:

"this is the moment... that the world is waiting for...I have become a symbol of the possibility of America returning to our best traditions"

Pure narcissism.

249 HDrepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:24:55pm

re: #248 Kenneth

What I want to know, is what are those best traditions he is speaking of?Another bumper sticker slogan or red meat?

250 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:26:55pm
251 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:27:11pm

re: #249 HDrepub

The adulation of Obama. That's what it's all about.

252 Cygnus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:33:39pm

re: #110 saberry0530

"BARFOLOMEW!"

"I'm a Mog. Half man, half dog. I'm my own best friend."

253 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:34:46pm

re: #245 JustMyView

You should have your hearing aids checked. Obama said nothing negative about the United States in the Berlin speech,

I know my country has not perfected itself. At times, we’ve struggled to keep the promise of liberty and equality for all of our people. We’ve made our share of mistakes, and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions.

I think that was negative, if only mildly so.

and I've never heard him say anything beyond the bounds of normal political discourse in any other speech either.

But the Berlin speech wasn't a political speech, his campaign manager said so! No, the content was not beyond the bounds, but it was one continuous string of meaningless, empty, Utopian drivel.

"This is the moment to give our children back their future."

What the hell does that mean? Why not just promise free unicorns to everybody?

254 Cygnus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:35:54pm

re: #124 yma o hyd

Fixed that for you.

I'll say 'The Symbol' forthwith when speaking about BO.

Kind of like 'the artist formerly known as Prince'.

255 littleO  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:37:28pm

Oh, good grief! Couldn't get my barf bag quick enough.

The reality is that Obama may very easily be our next POTUS. Worse than that idea is the dhimm's will have a super majority in at least the senate.

My unworthy advice. Pay close attention to the tax loopholes that will inevitably be written into the code.

256 ladycatnip  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:40:29pm

#245 JustMyView

Also, you should check the latest reporting on the hospital visit incident, as two separate investigations have failed to turn up any evidence that he cancelled the visit because he couldn't take cameras.

The Pentagon affirmed that they had no problem with Obama visiting with the proviso that none of his campaign crew or his photographers would be allowed. The military provides their own photographers.

Nothing stopped him from going to meet the wounded soldiers except his own narcissism. We know his camp was furiously trying to spin this because the excuses kept changing. The latest excuse was that he "needed some down time." The soldiers have nothing but down time; rather than pay them a respectful visit, he chose to go to the gym and shoot hoops.

257 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:52:34pm

his bubble is going to burst and he's going to look around and wonder where everyone went.
i bet he cries. :(
aughhhh.
i hope someone is there to pat his head.

258 Catttt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:04:07pm

re: #245 JustMyView

Bullfeathers. Per the LA Times:

U.S. military authorities told advisors to Barack Obama this week that he could not bring press or campaign staff on a visit to wounded troops from Iraq and Afghanistan at a hospital in Germany, a Pentagon spokesman said Friday.

After advisors learned of the restriction, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee canceled his scheduled visit Friday to the military's Landstuhl Regional Medical Center in southern Germany.

259 picaro  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:15:46pm

Hey Obama! Have one of your campaign flunkies look into the 1948 election. You know, the "Dewey Defeats Truman" headline. They say that Dewey was smug and thought he had that one wrapped up.

260 Dolce  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:28:47pm

re: #253 Kenneth

What the hell does that mean? Why not just promise free unicorns to everybody?

261 Winmag  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:36:45pm

I'm beginning to think that the guy who kept faith in his country while locked up in a Hanoi hell hole for 5 1/2 years probably has the edge in the character department.

262 JSK1121  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:53:54pm

Obama vs. McCain = Patriots vs. Giants. We all know how the latter turned out...

263 kawfytawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:14:24pm

good grief... he truly is pompous ass

264 Dolce  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:29:33pm

#253 Kenneth:

I am so sorry my previous posting (#260) appeared incomplete - I hope I didn't sound rude. I just wanted to say that I loved the free unicorns for everybody. Can I use the expression? I usually say "golden elephants" but "free unicorns" is more refined.

265 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:35:03pm

Look at this comment at the WAPO site on this article.

I love it.

You know, I'm one of those Clinton supporters who would rather eat ground glass than support or contribute to Barack Obama.

I'll be supporting and contributing to McCain, comforted in the knowledge that if Obama wins anyways, he'll be bound to work on "my issues".

It's kind of like a win-win, rooting against someone who is an incredible narcissistic jerk who supposedly represents your interests. If he loses, I win, if he wins, I win.

And those obnoxious, frothing at the mouth, sexist Obama supporters would be the ones dishing out to pay for and support the effort!

This is funny. Almost as funny as watching a narcissist fighting with others for the privilege to wash your car. Using your nasty neighbor's money and supplies.

If Clinton were still in the race I'd have a lot more expense and burden supporting her candidacy. Now, I can just watch the hubris and ego and vote for McCain while Obama postures for the right to lead America to the left (which is where I would prefer it go anyways).

266 Crashnburn  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:43:30pm

As they said in 300 "The God King (Xerxes) has betrayed a fatal flaw: hubris. Easy to taunt, easy to trick ... the mad king throws the best he has at us. Xerxes has taken the bait.”

Let's hope it holds true for the modern day god-king...

267 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:44:43pm

Cognito -

here is another source for the quote.

[Link: blog.washingtonpost.com...]

Seems other journalists have joined in "misquoting" him.

You provided your version without a link. Are reporters unwilling to print the quote in full?

268 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:04:01pm

re: #264 Dolce

You're not rude at all...

And please do repeat the unicorn motif. You'll love the new cartoon at JibJab.com!

269 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:04:59pm

re: #266 Crashnburn

Obama is also easy to flatter, a dangerous weakness in a president.

270 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:28:00pm

re: #160 alegrias

* * *
200,000 showed up for a concert & free beer & frankfurters.
They stayed for the freak show.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the crowd started chanting for the main act/band etc to start when he takes the podium? (and doesn't quiet down until he leaves?)

271 Inquisitive  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:34:08pm

re: #3 RaiderDan

All thats left is changing his campaign theme song to "Hail to the Chief" and his campaign plane to Air Force One.
New campaign digs: 1600 Penn. Ave. (even though its illegal to use gov't offices for campaiging but that won't stop him)

He had his plane repainted and had the Obama logo painted on where the American flag had been.

"And the plane that once had an American flag on its tail now sports the Obama “O.” “Change We Can Believe In” and the candidate’s website are splayed across both sides of the fuselage, "

[Link: embeds.blogs.foxnews.com...]

272 mattm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:42:52pm

His arrogance will be the downfall of his campaign in the end. If he keeps it up the REAL Obama will emerge when people question him, not the puppet.

273 Mosse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:57:48pm

re: #9
"You know Obama is getting out of control when MSNBC asks, Is Obama getting cocky?"

Did you post that MSNBC clip on posted articles? That clip is terrific! It may finally be happening -- the lad has visibly overstepped reasonable boundaries! Thanks for the clip!

274 AReadyRepub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 8:08:37pm

Just for laughs, look up BlackFive and you will find the perfect picture of Obuma posted by Uncle Jimbo. It is called the No. 10 Downing Dork and shows Obuma standing in front of 10 Downing Street after holding his own press conference (without the PM of England present). A perfect Erkel. No arrogance, just doufas.

275 UncleSam  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 10:16:31pm

That was one hell of an article/commentary.
Is the MSM turning against Obama because he's turned into a religious figure and is starting to believe his own hype?

Do they foresee a strangled press forbidden to question the Messiah?

276 Ban Draoi  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:01:25pm

re: #31 CIA Reject

My next door neighbor refers to it as the "California howdy."

277 somecallmetim  Thu, Jul 31, 2008 5:37:42am

Obama 08 - The audacity of audacity.

278 Dolce  Thu, Jul 31, 2008 7:15:02am

#269 Kenneth:

I checked that you had received my apology during my (late and meagre) lunch hour - the new cartoon was a real bonus (as was the website itself). I loved the charge of the unicorn garlanded in pink!

279 niall  Thu, Jul 31, 2008 8:14:51am

If there's anything around here more important than my ego, I want it caught and shot now!

- Zaphod Beeblebrox Barack Obama


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