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Shocka: Terrorists Guilty of Human Rights Violations

Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:36:17 pm PDT

A bulletin from the Department of the Blindingly Obvious: Study: Both Hamas and Fatah guilty of human rights violations.

Palestinian security forces loyal to Hamas and Fatah have both carried out serious human rights abuses over the past year, including arbitrary arrests and torture, according to a report on the bitter power struggle between the groups.

Human Rights Watch, in the report released on Wednesday, cited a pattern of politically motivated arrests, mock executions and severe beatings in detention centers run by Hamas Islamists in the Gaza Strip and President Mahmoud Abbas’s secular Fatah faction in the West Bank.

It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security forces, for “not paying adequate attention to the systematic abuses by those forces.”

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1 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:37:16pm

How many pages into this report is it before Israel is blamed?

2 WitchDoctor  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:37:25pm

/

3 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:37:42pm

Golly. What a surprise.

4 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:38:24pm

It faulted the United States.... for funding.....

Wonder what it would say if we stopped funding.

5 shibumi  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:38:36pm

Don't worry. If the Palestinians had their own state, all the human rights abuses would magically disappear, and peace would reign over the earth for all eternity.

/do I need a sarc tag?

6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:38:40pm

Do they break down the abuses along militant, protestor, and activist lines?

7 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:39:13pm

some way,some how it had to be our fault!

8 Fried Spam  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:39:38pm

re: #1 looking closely

It faulted the United States and other donors


Good grief.

9 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:39:47pm
It faulted the United States...

Of course.

10 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:39:52pm

Blame America First crowd, naturellement, as our Pre-President says overseas.

If America just got out of the Middle East, the lion would lie down with the lamb, or at least respect human rights.

11 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:39:56pm

re: #5 shibumi

Don't worry. If the Palestinians had their own state, all the human rights abuses would magically disappear, and peace would reign over the earth for all eternity.

/do I need a sarc tag?

And Barney the Dinosaur would receive the respect taht we have denied him all of these years.

12 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:40:08pm

re: #1 looking closely

How many pages into this report is it before Israel is blamed?

Well, the US is already blamed, so it's a good start:

It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security forces, for “not paying adequate attention to the systematic abuses by those forces.”

It's never the Palis' fault, you see.

13 Da_Beerfreak  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:40:50pm

This report is a surprise only to those who do not understand the nature of war and conflict.

14 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:40:57pm

It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security forces, for “not paying adequate attention to the systematic abuses by those forces.”

Oh, we've been paying attention...but that's all we've done when we should have stepped in and put the smackdown on.

15 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:41:30pm

Wait... I've got it! We should make Obama the Wise into the President of the "Palestinian State". It's like nuts & gum! Together at last!

16 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:41:37pm

This reminds me of college. And before I go on, I wish to apologize in advance to any and all out there who took the study of sociology seriously. In my day, those of us in Pred-Med, often took what we called "gut" courses ( easy A courses) and often they were Sociology courses. Or as we called them " an intense study into the obvious" . I think the same can be said of this report.

17 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:41:43pm

It's in the tunnel milk.

18 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:42:18pm

re: #15 Occasional Reader

Wait... I've got it! We should make Obama the Wise into the President of the "Palestinian State". It's like nuts & gum! Together at last!

Then the Messi-'uh', could dub it the state number 58.

19 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:43:20pm

re: #17 jorline

It's in the tunnel milk.

Got 'tunnel milk'?tm

Would you like some 'tunnel milk' to go with your 'poonami'?

20 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:43:48pm

of course it's our fault......

(isn't everything? %-)

/white smoke

21 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:44:00pm

Human Rights Abuses "including arbitrary arrests and torture".... but firing rockets at civilians isn't anything to comment on?

Oh wait, those civilians were joos.

Nevermind
/

22 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:44:55pm

re: #10 alegrias

the lion would have lamb kabab

23 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:45:04pm

re: #16 Nevergiveup

This reminds me of college. And before I go on, I wish to apologize in advance to any and all out there who took the study of sociology seriously. In my day, those of us in Pred-Med, often took what we called "gut" courses ( easy A courses) and often they were Sociology courses. Or as we called them " an intense study into the obvious" . I think the same can be said of this report.

[Link: www.macguff.fr...]

24 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:45:08pm

re: #19 Oh no...Sand People!

Got 'tunnel milk'?tm

Would you like some 'tunnel milk' to go with your 'poonami'?

Sounds like the perfect drink to go a welfare cheese on rye sandwich.

25 Cygnus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:45:10pm

More breaking news: The Sun rose in the East this morning.

26 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:45:45pm

re: #25 Cygnus

More breaking news: The Sun rose in the East this morning.

Predictions are that it will set in the West.

27 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:45:46pm

re: #21 rlevitin

Human Rights Abuses "including arbitrary arrests and torture".... but firing rockets at civilians isn't anything to comment on?

Oh wait, those civilians were joos.

Nevermind
/

Also the firing of rockets against Jews is also a "civilian" job. Now you wouldn't want to destroy the base of their civilian economy?

28 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:46:08pm

re: #21 rlevitin

Human Rights Abuses "including arbitrary arrests and torture".... but firing rockets at civilians isn't anything to comment on?

Oh wait, those civilians were joos.

Nevermind
/

Silly rlevitin... Jews aren't people!

/the world

29 joncelli  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:46:09pm

Yeah, but they never put underwear on anybody's head, so they're WAY better than Amkerikkka!

/Moonbat apologetics

30 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:46:43pm

Human Rights Watch is psychologically, constitutionally, morally incapable of laying blame where blame is due. The reason they came out with this study is probably to take the opportunity of bashing the US.

31 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:46:48pm
32 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:47:12pm

re: #29 joncelli

Yeah, but they never put underwear on anybody's head, so they're WAY better than Amkerikkka!

/Moonbat apologetics

Don't you dare oppress me for my fetishes!

33 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:47:43pm
34 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:47:52pm

re: #30 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Human Rights Watch is psychologically, constitutionally, morally incapable of laying blame where blame is due. The reason they came out with this study is probably to take the opportunity of bashing the US.

Your 100% correct, but I am still some what amazed it slipped passed the censors!

35 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:47:53pm

Since when is throwing your political opponents from rooftops a human rights violation?

/

36 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:48:58pm

You know, if we're paying the f-ckin "Palestinians", the least they could do is make us cheap shoes or something. How many sweatshops will we need before we break even, with all the billions that get poured into that rat's nest?

37 LegendXXX  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:49:11pm

You are all misunderstanding... In this case, the US IS to blame. Specifically the enablers who constantly believe that THIIS TIME, the Palestinians will ACTUALLY KEEP an agreement and who keep funding Fatah, Hamas, , etc...

Mostly I blame Democrats but Republicans can be just as much to blame. Bush visited Abbas and never once said: "Hey, look, Abbas, if you would STOP the killing and the terror, THEN we will begin to take you seriously. Until then, SHUT THE F*CK UP!"

Just my $0.02

Raider Dave

38 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:49:38pm

re: #35 experiencedtraveller

Since when is throwing your political opponents from rooftops a human rights violation?

/

Wow, someone's channeling Mugabe.

39 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:49:48pm

re: #35 experiencedtraveller

Since when is throwing your political opponents from rooftops a human rights violation?

/

Ever since it was thrown out of future Olympics along with Baseball and Softball.

40 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:50:06pm
41 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:50:11pm

re: #12 Occasional Reader

It's never the Palis' fault, you see.


The Palestinians are considered perpetual children and blameless victims. Anything they do wrong is always the fault of the grown ups around them.

I would add in seriousness that at least part of HAMAS' relatively recent ascendance since '06 *IS* indirectly the US's fault for encouraging elections in Palestine. HAMAS has always been a violent terrorist organization since its inception.

Encouraging an election between this group of Islamist thugs, and the other group of massively corrupt Marxist thugs (PLO/Fatah) wasn't particularly clever.

42 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:50:29pm

re: #35 experiencedtraveller

you me hamasshole's flying lessons don't count?

43 Da_Beerfreak  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:50:32pm

re: #35 experiencedtraveller

Since when is throwing your political opponents from rooftops a human rights violation?

/

That's called "littering" where I come from.
//////////

44 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:50:58pm

re: #22 yochanan

the lion would have lamb kabab

* * *
Shwarma! Only Iranian style.

(But they would cease & desist doing what they do best, if only the US "paid" more). NOT.

45 Sponge  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:51:24pm

Yes, but we could save the same, if not more, amount of oil each day that we could drill off shore if we just FILL OUR TIRES! ! ! !

Why didn't I think of that?!?

46 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:52:39pm

re: #36 Pawn of the Oppressor

You know, if we're paying the f-ckin "Palestinians", the least they could do is make us cheap shoes or something. How many sweatshops will we need before we break even, with all the billions that get poured into that rat's nest?

You don't even want to get put through to a Hamas technical help phone center.

"Now open Windows Control Panel, OR I'LL KILL YOU AND YOUR KUFIR FAMILY!"

/

47 greenmiler  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:52:44pm

Isn't it funny when Hamas and Fatah kill Jews this organization says nothing but when they kill there own its a human rights violation?

48 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:53:02pm

re: #45 Sponge

Yes, but we could save the same, if not more, amount of oil each day that we could drill off shore if we just FILL OUR TIRES! ! ! !

Why didn't I think of that?!?

And to think, I didn't know being savior of mankind was that easy! I bet next Obama cures a ham.

49 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:53:09pm

Did they mention the attack of the Muslim eating rats? Oh, sorry, I got that mixed up with the Jew eating Rabbit. By the way, anyone know if he is hopping around on only his right foot foot and using his only his left hand to eat his carrot these days?

50 rlevitin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:53:23pm

OT:

McCain Web Ad

I like it, 2:05 long.

Favorite quote from it: "I do not seek the office out of a sense of entitlement... I owe America more than she has ever owed me"

That is the exact opposite of the Obama mentality. He thinks America owes him everything!

51 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:53:35pm

re: #46 CyanSnowHawk

You don't even want to get put through to a Hamas technical help phone center.

"Now open Windows Control Panel, OR I'LL KILL YOU AND YOUR KUFIR FAMILY!"

/

That's a classic. Love it. I dinged you up on that one!

52 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:53:53pm

re: #36 Pawn of the Oppressor

You know, if we're paying the f-ckin "Palestinians", the least they could do is make us cheap shoes or something. How many sweatshops will we need before we break even, with all the billions that get poured into that rat's nest?

* * *
Well, I once bought a tank top made in Jordan by jordyptians at Dress Barn. It was cheap and the sequins fell off too.

53 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:53:57pm
54 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:53:58pm
55 Eowyn2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:54:05pm

re: #5 shibumi

Don't worry. If the Palestinians had their own state, all the human rights abuses would magically disappear, and peace would reign over the earth for all eternity.

/do I need a sarc tag?

Just like all of the gays disappeared from Iran.

56 shibumi  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:54:30pm

re: #15 Occasional Reader

Wait... I've got it! We should make Obama the Wise into the President of the "Palestinian State". It's like nuts & gum! Together at last!

Brilliant idea. Can someone who has the stomach for it wander over to Kos and suggest this?

57 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:54:47pm
58 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:56:12pm
59 Sponge  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:56:27pm

re: #48 Oh no...Sand People!

Now THAT's funny.....but he's afraid of pigs, isn't he?

60 barry the baptist  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:56:29pm

It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security...blah blah balh

I am sick of hearing this shit. So, we are now at fault for this? The EU? Let me see if I get this straight:

We are at fault for not monitoring these idiots enough. However, if we were to strip away their 'aid' then we would be called the scum of the earth for not supporting them.

Does that about cover it?

61 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:57:04pm

re: #58 taxfreekiller

So, how do the Kos Kids Kult afford to go for more meath with gas at $5.00 gal in Calif and New York?

Mommy and Daddy pay for it.

62 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:57:38pm

Should we pre-flight the pig?

63 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:57:48pm

re: #4 jcm

It faulted the United States.... for funding.....

Wonder what it would say if we stopped funding.

I think the tunnel milk lobby will pitch a fit.

64 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:58:05pm

re: #60 barry the baptist

and if we do get involved we are imperialist running dog pigs...

65 alegrias  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:58:15pm

I'd like my tax cuts to cut off this "aid". Are you listening McCain?

66 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:58:45pm

Crap...I looked at this picture and thought it was BHO...looks just like him.

67 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:58:47pm

re: #62 Ward Cleaver

Should we pre-flight the pig?

I don't think so, because they pinned the blame on the US.

68 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:58:55pm

re: #62 Ward Cleaver

onlt if it hindenbergs'over wahabbiland.

69 Eowyn2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:59:21pm

re: #36 Pawn of the Oppressor

You know, if we're paying the f-ckin "Palestinians", the least they could do is make us cheap shoes or something. How many sweatshops will we need before we break even, with all the billions that get poured into that rat's nest?

But will we be able to whear the shoes on airplanes?

70 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 1:59:25pm

re: #43 Da_Beerfreak

That's called "littering" where I come from.
//////////

Not if you hit the trash can......

71 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:00:00pm

re: #4 jcm

It faulted the United States.... for funding.....

Wonder what it would say if we stopped funding.

They'd fault us for stopping the funding.

72 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:00:36pm

re: #66 jorline

Crap...I looked at this picture and thought it was BHO...looks just like him.

A perfect likeness. It's very clear.

73 Cygnus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:00:51pm

re: #26 CyanSnowHawk

Predictions are that it will set in the West.

Tonight's forecast - dark. Continued mostly dark, turning into widely scattered light in the morning.
/Hippy Dippy Weatherman

74 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:01:21pm

re: #70 jcm

Not if you hit the trash can......

This might help you hit the target:

[Link: shock.military.com...]

And it WILL take out alot of garbage!

75 Sponge  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:01:30pm

In the immortal words or Leeroy Jenkins.........

It's not my fault......

76 Cygnus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:02:14pm

re: #48 Oh no...Sand People!

And to think, I didn't know being savior of mankind was that easy! I bet next Obama cures a ham.

And after that he'll heel a dog.

77 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:02:18pm

re: #68 Boondock St. Bender

onlt if it hindenbergs'over wahabbiland.

Oh the porcinity!

78 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:02:27pm

re: #37 LegendXXX

Yeah, if only our boy Barry had talked to them, they would be sweetness and light. Obviously there must have been an evil neocon conspiracy to prevent him from talking to these people. Oh, wait, he did talk to the PA on his victory tour. I remember his picture shaking hands with Abbas under the Great Buttfuck's portrait. Guess he did not get on the case early enough or something.

79 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:03:10pm

re: #60 barry the baptist

It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security...blah blah balh

I am sick of hearing this shit. So, we are now at fault for this? The EU? Let me see if I get this straight:

We are at fault for not monitoring these idiots enough. However, if we were to strip away their 'aid' then we would be called the scum of the earth for not supporting them.

Does that about cover it?


You've hit the nail on the head.

The US is at fault for bankrolling the terrorists.

But the US is ALSO at fault for cutting off financial assistance (something you'll recall, it actually did about two years ago after HAMAS took over).

Remember Haniyeh's defiant cry that the Palestinians would rather eat olives and salt than recognize Israel?

80 red satellite  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:03:36pm
Hamas and Fatah have both carried out serious human rights abuses over the past year, including arbitrary arrests and torture, ...

Outrage from the Left in....3...2...1....CRICKETS

81 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:03:47pm

re: #71 Ward Cleaver

They'd fault us for stopping the funding.

I say F' 'em......

I've decided giving 'em a state is the best option....

Wait, wait hear me out!

Give 'em a state.
The lob a few Qassams.
Israel declares war.
The Palis lose their state in a couple of hours.
Then the loss of their state is their fault, (or ours).

At any rate, they can't say they don't have a state.

82 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:04:43pm

You think Charles is trying to tell us something by listening to a CD whose first song is Satan is My Motor. I knew it!

83 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:05:04pm

re: #81 jcm

At any rate, they can't say they didn't have a state.

Corrected that one.

84 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:05:23pm

re: #83 Nevergiveup

At any rate, they can't say they didn't have a state.

Corrected that one.

Thank you!

85 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:05:29pm

Parental Advisory warning on Prolonging the Magic? WTF?

86 Pitiricus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:06:21pm

You really wonder... Why do these violent gangs need? To have another failed state in the world?

87 jorline  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:06:24pm

The Invisible Man

88 Eowyn2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:06:49pm

re: #34 Nevergiveup


re: #30 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Human Rights Watch is psychologically, constitutionally, morally incapable of laying blame where blame is due. The reason they came out with this study is probably to take the opportunity of bashing the US.

Your 100% correct, but I am still some what amazed it slipped passed the censors!

You're right it should have read
"Human Rights Watch has determined that the greed of the US, in supplying Fatah with funds for food and energy has caused Hamas to be envious, thereby causing a Palestinian Civil war in which some factions of the two factions have split into more factions which are abusing a few peoples' civil rights. The Palis are not, however abusing the civil rights of the Israelis. Instead they are being persecuted by Israeli check points where they are searched and turned away if they have the least bit of tnt, plastique, or other combustible materials. If the Israelis and the US would shower PALESTINE with dollars or Euros, then the only abuses that could possibly occur would be by the US and Israel.

89 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:07:27pm
...including arbitrary arrests and torture,

Like dressing kids up as terrorists? Training them from the day they come out of the womb to kill jews? Using the children as human shields? Exposing them to propaganda of the worst kind in the form of children's television? The list could go on for ages...

*spit*

90 looking closely  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:08:27pm

re: #81 jcm

I say F' 'em......

I've decided giving 'em a state is the best option....

Wait, wait hear me out!

Give 'em a state.
The lob a few Qassams.
Israel declares war.
The Palis lose their state in a couple of hours.
Then the loss of their state is their fault, (or ours).

At any rate, they can't say they don't have a state.


Whether or not they CLAIM to have a state is largely semantics. They have land with borders, they have funds, they have a population, they have countries lined up in rows waiting to give them diplomatic and other privileges. So What they lack is any sort of effective governance, which is something that really CANNOT be laid at the feet of Israel or anyone else.

As to the fantasy of Israel destroying Gaza (or the West Bank), in a military action, its simply not going to happen, state or no state. Israel lacks the political will to do that, and isn't likely to acquire it anytime soon (if ever).

Israel isn't willing to (Nazi-like) murder or displace several millions of Palestinians, including women and children, no matter how odious their leadership is, nor how much violence they foment against Israeli civiilans.

If Israel had the stones to do that, it would have been done long ago, and there would be no residual Palestinian issue.

91 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:09:17pm

Gosh, it just occurred to me. If Barry gets his way and gives away 0.7% of the US GDP to all these failed nations, then we can be blamed for failure anyplace in the world. A veritable bonanza of culpability. Never will we have to blame the weather and overgrazing and civil war for problems with starvation in the world. All they have to do is to blame the US because we gave somebody aid to help them. I will have to go back to my New Testament and redact the Good Samaritan. The correct thing for him to do was to blame the US and then stomp the guy he found to death.

92 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:09:32pm

re: #74 Nevergiveup

This might help you hit the target:

[Link: shock.military.com...]

And it WILL take out alot of garbage!

That's what happened to the 3rd Republican Guard N.W. of Baghdad, the only used once in anger.

93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:09:40pm

re: #88 Eowyn2

Its real simple. The Palis and every other actual human rights violator wont give groups like Human Rights watch the time of day, let alone listen to them and give them money. In fact, it usually gets them dead. By blaming the US and other civilized countries, they're guaranteed press exposure, politicians sucking up to them and plenty of cash and funding on the lecture circuits.

94 sparrowlake  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:09:42pm

The cynical and stupid belief that financial support of one Palestinian faction or another by the West (and indeed by Israel itself) would magically yield peace and an end to terrorist attacks on Israel, is not even partly to blame for the ongoing human rights abuses within Palestinian society. The Palestinians have no apparent political leaders who give a rat's ass about the human rights of Palestinians. All their leaders care about is:
1. Continuation of the struggle to destroy the Zionist entity and to expel or murder its Jewish inhabitants; and,
2. Feathering their own corrupt personal nests with as much money as the leaders can beg, borrow or steal.
Internal human rights of Palestinians are not even on the radar screen.

95 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:10:22pm

re: #88 Eowyn2

"Human Rights Watch Soros has determined that ..."

Reduced the word-count for you.

96 hoffmonster  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:10:33pm

Someone will state that the obvious pattern of torture and abuse is no different than Bush policy. Make bank!

Hoffmonster

97 vapig  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:10:38pm

"It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security forces, for “not paying adequate attention to the systematic abuses by those forces.”

Only the apologists of the left-wing media could turn a story of human rights abuses from the perpetrators back on to the US. Of course, when we and the rest of the west halted the blood money we were roundly condemned for being mean and starving them to death - even though they had plenty of ready cash to buy weapons in Egypt.

98 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:10:48pm

re: #90 looking closely

I know, I know.....

99 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:11:26pm

re: #92 jcm

That's what happened to the 3rd Republican Guard N.W. of Baghdad, the only used once in anger.

I thought you would appreciate that one.

100 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:13:08pm

re: #99 Nevergiveup

I thought you would appreciate that one.

Next up...
Iranian Air Defense and Armor brigades.

101 Joan Not of Arc  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:14:26pm

The Palestinians can't be guilty of human rights abuses. They're so gentle and peaceful. Must be that damn media that's distorting everything!

102 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:14:37pm

Excuse me, but this is a friggin joke.

NOW they are guilty of human rights violations?

AND WHAT ABOUT WHEN THEY TARGET AND KILL INNOCENT JEWISH CIVILIANS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

f*ck human rights watch.

103 newsjunkie_ky  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:16:11pm

OT
Everybody go subscribe to johnmccain on youtube. Get there by clicking on the new mccain ad in the video links.

104 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:17:13pm

Thank God you don't have to be HUMAN to committ Human Rights Abuses!

105 stashiu  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:18:56pm

re: #16 Nevergiveup

This reminds me of college. And before I go on, I wish to apologize in advance to any and all out there who took the study of sociology seriously. In my day, those of us in Pred-Med, often took what we called "gut" courses ( easy A courses) and often they were Sociology courses. Or as we called them " an intense study into the obvious" . I think the same can be said of this report.

I know I am dating myself, but in my day when I was working on my BA in sociology, we were mostly conservatives and recognized the folly of social engineering. We were there to study society, not plan, not predict. Danial Patrick Moynahan was in the forefront of pointing out the dangers of social engineering.

Of course, then the field was taken over by the draft dodgers, and you know the rest of the story.

BTW, those survey courses were designed to be easy. That was how the Soc. Dept got people in them, got the enrollment, and got the $$$$.

106 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:21:15pm
It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security forces, for “not paying adequate attention to the systematic abuses by those forces.”

Because human rights watch has really been on the forefront of keeping the Palis to their word over the last 15 years.

107 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:21:34pm

re: #105 stashiu

I know I am dating myself, but in my day when I was working on my BA in sociology, we were mostly conservatives and recognized the folly of social engineering. We were there to study society, not plan, not predict. Danial Patrick Moynahan was in the forefront of pointing out the dangers of social engineering.

Of course, then the field was taken over by the draft dodgers, and you know the rest of the story.

BTW, those survey courses were designed to be easy. That was how the Soc. Dept got people in them, got the enrollment, and got the $$$$.

I stand corrected and also would like to extend my THANK-YOU for the easy courses. They were greatly appreciated.

108 vxbush  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:22:31pm

re: #105 stashiu

I know I am dating myself, but in my day when I was working on my BA in sociology, we were mostly conservatives and recognized the folly of social engineering. We were there to study society, not plan, not predict. Danial Patrick Moynahan was in the forefront of pointing out the dangers of social engineering.

Of course, then the field was taken over by the draft dodgers, and you know the rest of the story.

BTW, those survey courses were designed to be easy. That was how the Soc. Dept got people in them, got the enrollment, and got the $$$$.

How long ago are we talking about here? Pre-1968?

109 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:24:58pm

bbl

110 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:25:56pm
111 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:26:09pm

OT ,, but BREAKING ,,, Olmert says he will resign after Kadima elects new leader

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

112 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:26:56pm

re: #111 sattv4u2

OT ,, but BREAKING ,,, Olmert says he will resign after Kadima elects new leader

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

That's good, but in my opinion to little and way to late.

113 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:27:42pm
114 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:28:14pm

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey

Look down a couple of threads, and you will find one on this.

K , thanks ,,, been in and out all day

115 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:28:59pm

re: #114 sattv4u2

K , thanks ,,, been in and out all day

Real savage-like?

116 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:29:33pm

re: #115 Occasional Reader

Real savage-like?

not sure,,, but I could use a cigarette

117 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:29:40pm

File this under: How to keep a secret?

"Obama to House Dems: If Sanctions Fail, Israel Will Likely Strike Iran"

[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

OK, so it's not such a big secret, but he still should keep his big fat mouth shut!

118 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:30:18pm

re: #117 Nevergiveup

he still should keep his big fat mouth shut!

Or at least cover it with his ears

119 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:31:16pm

re: #118 sattv4u2

he still should keep his big fat mouth shut!

Or at least cover it with his ears

Or grow longer hair like the hippie commie he is!

120 redc1c4  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:31:49pm

re: #70 jcm

Not if you hit the trash can......

bringing a new meaning to the term "dumpster diving".....

/2012 Olympics or just the Pan-Arabian Games? %-)

121 vagabond trader  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:32:49pm

Cruelty to animals is more accurate.

122 offendi  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:33:05pm

Thinking out of the box, it seems to me that Palestinian society, violent and death obsessed, would be an excellent place for developing an alternative rap culture to the current Islamic extremism.

Forget about sending them millions of dollars for food and weapons. Instead send them a number of record companies and English teachers (kidnap-proof them) and get them into recording their diatribes. Send them tons and tons of low-rise pants and observable underwear, along with expensive sneakers and baseball caps. Flood them with 24/7 rap videos and music to undermine their culture, as this stuff has diminished ours.

When they are more concerned about their "bling" and "ride" than Israel, we will have peace. I am now waiting for my Nobel Prize. Will the White House now call and make me a special ambassador and negotiator?

123 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:33:07pm

re: #114 sattv4u2

K , thanks ,,, been in and out all day

No time for the ol' in-out, love. I've just come to read the meter!

124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:34:08pm

HRW must also back Dinnerjacket:

Iran’s Leader Blames U.S. and Its Allies for Global Ills

TEHRAN (AP) — Iran’s president on Tuesday blamed the United States and other “big powers” for global ills like nuclear proliferation and AIDS, and he accused them of exploiting the United Nations for their own gain and the developing world’s loss.

But, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said, time was on the side of the poor countries.

“The big powers are going down,” he said at a meeting of foreign ministers of the Nonaligned Movement in Tehran. “They have come to the end of their power, and the world is on the verge of entering a new, promising era.”

125 quickjustice  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:34:39pm

Your tax dollars at work!

I understand the argument that Abbas is the "least worst" alternative here, but until the lives of ordinary Palestinians improve under their "government", it remains little more than the kleptocracy that Arafat bequeathed them.

B/T/W, who ended up with Arafat's Swiss bank accounts of stolen European money? His wife?

126 Maui Girl  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:34:41pm

It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security forces, for “not paying adequate attention to the systematic abuses by those forces.”

And why does this statement not surprise me. It's the "blame the USA" crowd again.

127 offendi  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:35:40pm

re: #105 stashiu

" Defining Deviancy Downwards" = Democratic Party

Should be their campaign slogan, don't you think?

128 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:35:45pm

Gotta go burn up some dead meat for the family and friends on the grill. later.

129 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:37:13pm
130 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:38:50pm

re: #114 sattv4u2

*grin*
Thanks for allowing us to "beat up on you" on the prior thread.

131 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:40:22pm

re: #124 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HRW must also back Dinnerjacket:

Iran’s Leader Blames U.S. and Its Allies for Global Ills

He certainly does have the audacity to hope, doesn't he.

132 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:41:28pm

re: #130 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin*
Thanks for allowing us to "beat up on you" on the prior thread.

no problem,, it WAS fun

133 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:41:39pm

BBIAB

134 Sunlight  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:42:44pm

re: #1 looking closely

How many pages into this report is it before Israel is blamed?

Just think how bad it must really be for these people to say something about it without blaming it on Israel.

135 Sunlight  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:45:02pm

re: #122 offendi


baseball caps. Flood them with 24/7 rap videos and music to undermine enhance their culture, as this stuff has diminished ours.

There. fixed.

136 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:47:24pm

re: #125 quickjustice

Your tax dollars at work!

I understand the argument that Abbas is the "least worst" alternative here, but until the lives of ordinary Palestinians improve under their "government", it remains little more than the kleptocracy that Arafat bequeathed them.

B/T/W, who ended up with Arafat's Swiss bank accounts of stolen European money? His wife?

I don't know, but I got a "Nigerian scam" email a few years ago claiming to be from Suha Arafat asking me to help get the money out of wherever it was.
That scam email I kept for laughs.

137 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:48:28pm

Headline story on tonight's news. (NOT)

Number of homeless down 12% in U.S., report says

138 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:50:46pm

re: #52 alegrias

* * *
Well, I once bought a tank top made in Jordan by jordyptians at Dress Barn. It was cheap and the sequins fell off too.

What a coincidence, the tops come off of most of the Arab tanks, too.
At least the ones that encounter US forces or the IDF.

139 BingoBunny  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:52:02pm

so Hamas thugs beaten to a pulp by fatah boys can sue us, using the same lawyers who just sued us over fatah boys beaten to a pulp by Hamas thugs.

140 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:52:05pm

Anyone seen moveon's ad....

Hope: It Could Happen To You

Sounds like cooties.

141 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:52:12pm

OT:

From a FoxNews article about the RNC ad against BHO -- the last sentence:

For his own part, Obama on Wednesday compared himself to western legend Wild Bill Hickock while talking in Springfield, Mo., about taking on John McCain on taxes.

I'm reminded of the final sequence of scenes in "Quigley Down Under", where Tom Selleck tells the self-inflated bad guy ... "This isn't Dodge City, and you're not Bill Hickock."

Heh

142 Opinionated  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:53:29pm

Boy am I glad my tax dollars only supports one of these groups.

143 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:53:30pm

re: #130 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*grin*
Thanks for allowing us to "beat up on you" on the prior thread.


hey.. it was all in good fun...
regards

144 Son of the Black Dog  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:54:50pm

re: #76 Cygnus

And after that he'll heel a dog.

No, Muslims don't like dogs.

145 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:54:59pm

re: #137 jcm

Headline story on tonight's news. (NOT)

Number of homeless down 12% in U.S., report says

what have we done wrong?
/

146 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:55:37pm

re: #143 HoosierHoops

hey.. it was all in good fun...
regards

It was proof that we can make a silk purse out of a lizard's ear.

/heh, or somethin' like that

147 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:58:04pm

re: #141 pre-Boomer Marine brat

OT:

From a FoxNews article about the RNC ad against BHO -- the last sentence:

I'm reminded of the final sequence of scenes in "Quigley Down Under", where Tom Selleck tells the self-inflated bad guy ... "This isn't Dodge City, and you're not Bill Hickock."

Heh

Taxes? What's BHO been smokin'? On second thought don't answer that.

If the proposals espoused by candidate Obama ever became law, the American economy would suffer a serious setback, says Michael J. Boskin, a professor of economics at Stanford University and senior fellow with the Hoover Institution.

The top 35 percent marginal income tax rate rises to 39.6 percent; adding the state income tax, the Medicare tax, the effect of the deduction phase-out and Obama's new Social Security tax (of up to 12.4 percent) increases the total combined marginal tax rate on additional labor earnings (or small business income) from 44.6 percent to a whopping 62.8 percent.

148 cookielady  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:58:36pm

So, human rights abuses are occuring when Hamas and Fatah torture and kill the opposing 'military wing' of their respective sects of their own cult.

Human rights abuses are NOT occuring when either group fires rockets into Israel or kidnaps and kills Israeli soldiers or shoots into the passing cars of Jews or walks onto a bus or into a pizza parlor encased in explosives.

Got it.

149 Dianna  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 2:59:24pm

re: #145 HoosierHoops

Just don't tell any of the homeless organizations. They'll be disappointed.

150 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:01:01pm

re: #147 jcm

Yes, don't ask what.

151 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:01:22pm

OT, but look at the spinoff links for
Obama Lowers Sea Levels, But Sadly Discovers Atlantis

I didn't post the original, but it is great:

Atlantis was a Republic founded on principles of individual rights, limited government, laissez-faire economics, and a strong military to defend these principles. This boosted the nation's creativity, entrepreneurial spirit, and technical innovations, allowing Atlantis quickly to become the greatest nation in the prehistory of the world. Even the Atlantian poor were the richest poor of all.

A political party, whose name can roughly be translated as "The Whiners," ascended to power by exploiting the natural inequalities among people and encouraging jealousy and divisiveness.

Catch the picture showing Ubomo throwing his grandmother under a chariot.

152 see bs  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:02:13pm

This Just In....... No Sh*t.

153 bellamags  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:03:10pm

re: #140 jcm

That has got to be the dumbest ad I have ever seen. I HOPE they run it over and over and over during primetime on every channel.

154 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:03:17pm

re: #150 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes, don't ask what.

Maybe smoke is the wrong term....
He's dizzy from blowing air into the bus's tires.

155 CheDub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:05:43pm

re: #134 Sunlight

Just think how bad it must really be for these people to say something about it without blaming it on Israel.

You guys notice though how it says the 2 are guilty for committing rights violations against Palestinians, but not Israel? Cause killing innocent Israelis is apparently just "armed resistance."

156 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:14:19pm

Hello lizards...this is a drive-by post...my uncle Charlie sent this email to me:

This is a first hand account from the nephew of one of our friends.

I don't know each of your personal political convictions, and apologize if anyone finds this offensive. I thought it was important enough to share. This is Jeff's first hand view of Senator Obama.

---------- Forwarded Message ----------
Hello everyone,
As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram Afghanistan for about an hour on his visit to 'The War Zone'. I wanted to share with you what happened.

He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram.

As the Soldiers were lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn't say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service.

So really he was just here to make a showing for the American's back home that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for you.

I swear we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders than from Senator, who wants to be the President of the United States . I just don't understand how anyone would want him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.

If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake.

In service,
CPT Jeffrey S. Porter
Battle Captain
TF Wasatch
American Soldier

157 Dianna  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:14:33pm

Is this thread dead?

158 Mike in Georgia  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:16:52pm

re: #157 Dianna

Yup

159 Pyroskank  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:17:44pm

In related news, it is now being reported that water is indeed wet, and the sun is, like, really big and hot.

160 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:18:01pm

re: #157 Dianna

Is this thread dead?

It's dead Jim.

161 CheDub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:18:40pm

re: #157 Dianna

Discussing the brutality of HAMAS is like arguing over what shade of blue the sky is. It's still blue and that's all that matters.

162 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:19:19pm

re: #157 Dianna

Is this thread dead?

I've been in and out, doing other things. It does seem to have slowed to a halt.

/is this a lizard-rights violation?

163 Dianna  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:21:02pm

Thanks, all.

You know what this means, don't you? Soon, we will revert to being fractious kindergartners who somehow missed their naps.

164 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:21:34pm

Our Mayor is Seattle is an ASS!


Seattle mayor proposes car-free days

10:42 PM PDT on Tuesday, July 29, 2008
By TRICIA MANNING-SMITH / KING 5 News

SEATTLE – As part of Seattle's campaign to combat global warming, Mayor Greg Nickels plans car-free days throughout the city.

165 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:22:04pm

re: #163 Dianna

Thanks, all.

You know what this means, don't you? Soon, we will revert to being fractious kindergartners who somehow missed their naps.

PFFFFFBBBBBTTTTT!
Dianna is a poo-poo-head!
/ ;-P

166 Mike in Georgia  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:22:25pm

re: #163 Dianna

revert to? never left

167 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:22:31pm

re: #154 jcm

Maybe smoke is the wrong term....
He's dizzy from blowing air into the bus's tires.


Obamama

"We could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling if everybody was just inflating their tires and getting regular tune-ups. You could save just as much."


Duhhhh!
I inflated my tires three months ago,
thats how I found out I needed new shocks.

300 hundred bucks.

/thanks again Spock ears.

168 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:22:44pm

re: #164 jcm

Our Mayor is Seattle is an ASS!


Seattle mayor proposes car-free days

I hope all the commuters will be issued coconut halves.

169 Dianna  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:22:51pm

re: #164 jcm

"Car free days"? Oh, lovely.

Have you ever tried to take two dogs and one cat to the vet on the bus?!

170 Dianna  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:23:45pm

re: #165 jcm

PFFFFFBBBBBTTTTT!
Dianna is a poo-poo-head!
/ ;-P

Penis breath!

/ET

171 CheDub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:25:32pm

re: #164 jcm

This is so stupid. And the $1billion they've spent on the viaduct is more than frustrating. How do we have a democratic mayor, county commissioner, and governor and they still can't coordinate a damn thing?!

172 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:26:36pm

re: #169 Dianna

"Car free days"? Oh, lovely.

Have you ever tried to take two dogs and one cat to the vet on the bus?!

Hell, I wrote him a letter last time he spouted this non-sense. We group the kids appointments in Seattle, being responsible and all that. One Nov. day I took the boys and our new foster placement a 2 month old medically fragile infant downtown for a series of appointments.

I wrote hizzonr do you want me to stand on corners waiting for buses in the cold wind and rain with 2 toddlers and a medically fragile infant!

He's a tool.

173 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:27:06pm

re: #170 Dianna

Penis breath!

/ET

MOOOOMMMM!

174 Dianna  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:28:31pm

re: #173 jcm

MOOOOMMMM!

He started it!

175 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:29:36pm

re: #174 Dianna

He started it!

Well ,you can both take a time out. Don't give me that look!

176 Dianna  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:30:58pm

re: #175 opnion

Well ,you can both take a time out. Don't give me that look!

Opnion! Aw! Wah! It was jcm's fault!


I must go, I fear.

177 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:32:21pm

re: #175 opnion

Well ,you can both take a time out. Don't give me that look!

WAAAHHH!

178 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:32:33pm

re: #176 Dianna

Opnion! Aw! Wah! It was jcm's fault!


I must go, I fear.

Take care!

179 CheDub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:33:00pm

re: #177 jcm

WAAAHHH!

You stop that or I'll give you something to cry about!

180 DistantThunder  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:33:08pm

This is a little quote I thought Senator Obama would benefit from:


G. K. Chesterton expressed this idea very eloquently: “How much larger your life would be if you could become smaller in it ... You would begin to be interested in others. You would break out of this tiny ... theatre in which your own little plot is always being played, and you would find yourself under a freer sky, in a street full of splendid strangers.”
181 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:33:21pm

re: #176 Dianna

Opnion! Aw! Wah! It was jcm's fault!


I must go, I fear.

I do not want to hear it. Why can't you kids just get along?
I mean, is that so hard?
You don't hear your mother & me acting like this, do you? Well do you?

182 Dianna  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:34:37pm

re: #181 opnion

I do not want to hear it. Why can't you kids just get along?
I mean, is that so hard?
You don't hear your mother & me acting like this, do you? Well do you?

We hear the spankings!

(now I'm really gone - out of fear!)

183 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:34:45pm

re: #179 CheDub

You stop that or I'll give you something to cry about!

That is one of the all time parental comments, onl exceeded by, "Because I said so."

184 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:36:42pm

Well, tomorrow I'm pulling an overnighter as I drive around Utah for work. I'll be passing through such exotic cities as Koosharem, Virgin, and Beaver (insert joke here). See y'all on Monday!

185 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:37:08pm

All of you will notice that I was NOT part of that infantile fracas.

/damn!

186 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:38:10pm

re: #181 opnion

I do not want to hear it. Why can't you kids just get along?
I mean, is that so hard?
You don't hear your mother & me acting like this, do you? Well do you?

You must hang out at my house.......

187 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:38:45pm

re: #185 pre-Boomer Marine brat

All of you will notice that I was NOT part of that infantile fracas.

/damn!

*pulls pBMb's hair*

188 bosforus  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:39:20pm

Is this Muslim heaven?
(no, that's not me in the pic)

189 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:39:27pm

re: #187 jcm

*pulls pBMb's hair*

*kicks jcm in the ... er ... knee"

190 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:40:20pm

re: #189 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*kicks jcm in the ... er ... knee"

It's twue!

191 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:40:26pm

re: #164 jcm

doesn't it rain there most of the time?

192 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:40:32pm

re: #189 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*kicks jcm in the ... er ... knee"

Charles better put up a new thread before someone gets hurt.

193 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:41:08pm

I think I need to register "pre-Boomer's TimberWolfSock" to protect myself.

194 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:41:14pm

re: #186 jcm

You must hang out at my house.......

These are all tried and tested parental sayings. That of course does not mean that they are effective, only that the parent feels better.
My favorite was when I would be looking into the refrigerator,'Close the door. nothing grew in there."
I have successfuly avoided that one as a parent, but I kinda like it.

195 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:41:31pm

re: #191 Boondock St. Bender

doesn't it rain there most of the time?

Yeah!
*that's our story and we're stickin' to it*

196 CheDub  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:41:39pm

re: #189 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*kicks jcm in the ... er ... knee"

i'm just gonna swing my arms like this and you walk into my path it's YOUR fault!

*starts swinging arms back and forth (while typing no less!)*

197 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:42:30pm

re: #184 bosforus
is beaver any were near shaved or burning bush?

198 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:42:32pm

re: #192 jcm

Charles better put up a new thread before someone gets hurt.

Do I detect a higher-pitched tone of voice to that post?

199 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:42:34pm

re: #194 opnion

These are all tried and tested parental sayings. That of course does not mean that they are effective, only that the parent feels better.
My favorite was when I would be looking into the refrigerator,'Close the door. nothing grew in there."
I have successfuly avoided that one as a parent, but I kinda like it.

Instead of "cause I said so" we use "that's the rules" same thing, different words.

200 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:42:54pm

re: #198 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Do I detect a higher-pitched tone of voice to that post?

*squeak*
*gasp*

201 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:43:55pm

re: #192 jcm

If goddess comes in right about now, I've got the perfect one locked-and-loaded.

*snicker*

202 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:44:47pm

re: #199 jcm

Instead of "cause I said so" we use "that's the rules" same thing, different words.

Ya know what never works? 'I am going to count to ten"
The kid then has a free nine count.

203 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:44:58pm

re: #200 jcm

*squeak*
*gasp*

We must be getting desperate.

I hear footsteps, running away fast. It must be Deb.

204 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:46:49pm

re: #203 pre-Boomer Marine brat

We must be getting desperate.

I hear footsteps, running away fast. It must be Deb.

What?

205 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:48:04pm

re: #202 opnion

Ya know what never works? 'I am going to count to ten"
The kid then has a free nine count.

They know the rules, but at 3 and 4 impulse is stronger.
Certain violations, get an instant time out, and if it's mutual combat they both get a time out.

I need a phrase box.
Button 1 - Stop.
Button 2 - give it back
Button 3 - ........

206 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:49:23pm

re: #205 jcm

They know the rules, but at 3 and 4 impulse is stronger.
Certain violations, get an instant time out, and if it's mutual combat they both get a time out.

I need a phrase box.
Button 1 - Stop.
Button 2 - give it back
Button 3 - ........


If you have a 3 & 4 year old , I won't ask what you do with your spare time.

207 Fat Jolly Penguin  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:49:24pm

Monstrous WTF of the hour: apparently, Obama's the first Asian-American candidate.

208 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:50:22pm
It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security forces, for “not paying adequate attention to the systematic abuses by those forces.”

...but I thought the US was to be faulted for not supporting the "Peace Process" enough?!? Gosh darn it! It's so hard to keep up with the daily reaosns for faultng the US.

209 KingKenrod  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:50:56pm
It faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security forces, for “not paying adequate attention to the systematic abuses by those forces.”

Ordinarily I chalk these charges up to typical US-bashing by a leftist organization like HRW, but in this case HRW is absolutely right. It's time to end the charade of supporting Fatah, something we never should have even considered. And it happened completely on Bush's watch.

210 Whiterasta  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:51:18pm

re: #205 jcm

....Ya know what never works? 'I am going to count to ten"...

You want to know what really works? My father starting to undo his belt.....

211 unclassifiable  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:51:35pm

Action Plan:

1) Cut off the money to the PA. Period. Sorry whatever "innocent civilians" are left. Your leaders are homicidal thugs and your Arab friends are perfectly happy to keep you stuck under their thumbs (maybe you should get some new leaders AND freinds?)
2) Flush Foggy Bottom -- every last damn one of them.
3) Hire John Bolton to restock.
4) Have John announce to the world that we are perfectly willing to be your friend if you stay the f*ck out of our business, stop asking for a damn handout, and keep or get your own damn country in order before you start taking potshots at ours.
5) And (to Iran and Venuezuela) about that arrogance thing you accuse us of...
It takes real arrogance to say to a country that has thousands of nukes and that "you are going down". Think about it.

212 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:51:52pm

re: #206 opnion

If you have a 3 & 4 year old , I won't ask what you do with your spare time.

3, 4 and 19 months. Got a 14 month girl as an emergency foster placement last Saturday.

213 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:52:09pm

re: #204 debutaunt

What?

Oh, jcm and I were just carrying the kiddie war to a silly conclusion.

214 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:52:24pm

re: #210 Whiterasta

....Ya know what never works? 'I am going to count to ten"...

You want to know what really works? My father starting to undo his belt.....

I remember that one.

215 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:52:53pm

re: #207 Fat Jolly Penguin

From your link:

The family with whom he’s closest — half-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng and her Chinese Canadian husband, Konrad Ng — are Asian American.

Well, are they Canadian or American? Reading comprehension is problem for this moonbat.

216 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:53:17pm

re: #207 Fat Jolly Penguin

Monstrous WTF of the hour: apparently, Obama's the first Asian-American candidate.

Tying both themes together, can you imagine disciplining little Barry Obama back in the day?
"Yeah, if I was White I wouldn't have to take a time out."

217 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:53:21pm

re: #210 Whiterasta

i remember the sound of that distincly!(that sound still makes my ears perk up.)

218 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:53:30pm

re: #213 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, jcm and I were just carrying the kiddie war to a silly conclusion.



I was brave and never ran away.

219 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:54:09pm

re: #210 Whiterasta

....Ya know what never works? 'I am going to count to ten"...

You want to know what really works? My father starting to undo his belt.....

The moment of truth & the arguement was over.

220 Ben Hur  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:55:22pm
mock executions

Executions will not be mocked.

221 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:55:47pm

OT -- Turkey

Turkey's Constitutional Court has decided not to ban the ruling AK Party ... But the judges did (halve) the AKP's treasury funding for this year.

It was a 6-to-5 vote, with 7 needed for banning the AKP. It saved Turkey from a serious crisis, but maybe the AKP will watch its step now.

/we can hope

222 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:55:51pm

re: #207 Fat Jolly Penguin

Malkin made this great observation:

Question: By the Yang ethnicity standard, would this make John McCain the first Vietnamese-Bangladeshi-American president because of the time he spent in Vietnam and his adopted Bangladeshi-American daughter?

Silly Michelle, John MCCain is a White Male Oppressor.

223 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:56:24pm

re: #212 jcm

3, 4 and 19 months. Got a 14 month girl as an emergency foster placement last Saturday.

You two are running a dormitory there!

224 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:57:20pm

re: #218 debutaunt


I was brave and never ran away.

A Jedi.
A samurai.
Wow!

225 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:57:45pm

re: #222 Kenneth

don't forget the first panamanian president as well(being he was born in the canal zone)

226 opnion  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:57:51pm

re: #212 jcm

3, 4 and 19 months. Got a 14 month girl as an emergency foster placement last Saturday.

Good for you. I admire that.

227 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:57:57pm

re: #223 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You two are running a dormitory there!

We were getting ready to go the other day and I said, "Let's get this circus on the road!" The 4 year old saysl, "I am not a circus!"

228 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:58:26pm

Testing new avatar....

229 jcm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:59:44pm

Speaking of kids.....
Time to rescue the daycare!

Later all!

230 saberry0530  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 3:59:46pm

re: #228 rightymouse

Testing new avatar....

NIIICCCE!

231 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:01:24pm

Yay! It works.

Sooooooooo...Hamas and Fatah aren't freedom fighters in the same vein as our forefathers. Well..that's going to come as a shock to many liberals. I still get emails from some trying desperately to make some sort of moronic equivalence.

232 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:01:51pm

re: #230 saberry0530

NIIICCCE!

Thanks. And I can't knit either. lol!

233 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:03:26pm
234 ReneeJoy  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:03:54pm

re: #47 greenmiler

Isn't it funny when Hamas and Fatah kill Jews this organization says nothing but when they kill their own its a human rights violation?

Just wanted to repeat this.

235 Whiterasta  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:05:55pm

re: #219 opnion

You were safe, until the belt came out of the last pants loop.

Then there was much noise to be heard!

236 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:07:23pm

re: #233 buzzsawmonkey

Cute overload, in a good way.

All my mice avatars are cute. If I wanted ugly, my nic would have been 'ratular' or something like that. :)

237 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:10:01pm

what did everyone go to dinner or something?(on east coast time)

238 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:10:06pm

re: #218 debutaunt

Unless you were playing Monty Pythons Sir Robin- he bravely ran away! Ni Ni -We want - a SHRUBBERY!

239 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:11:48pm

re: #237 Boondock St. Bender

Why Yes, yes we are eating din din- and watching the Yankees re-run of the afternoon Jobba 13-3 victory over da birds! Holy Cow- Farnsworth for I- Rod!

240 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:12:15pm

re: #227 jcm

We were getting ready to go the other day and I said, "Let's get this circus on the road!" The 4 year old saysl, "I am not a circus!"

LOL!

241 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:13:01pm

re: #228 rightymouse

Testing new avatar....

Looks Great!
Sticking to your knitting, I see.

242 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:15:14pm

re: #239 LEGION

wow,the yanks get one hell of a catcher.

243 spirochete  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:16:43pm

re: #37 LegendXXX

You are all misunderstanding... In this case, the US IS to blame. Specifically the enablers who constantly believe that THIIS TIME, the Palestinians will ACTUALLY KEEP an agreement and who keep funding Fatah, Hamas, , etc...

Mostly I blame Democrats but Republicans can be just as much to blame. Bush visited Abbas and never once said: "Hey, look, Abbas, if you would STOP the killing and the terror, THEN we will begin to take you seriously. Until then, SHUT THE F*CK UP!"

Just my $0.02

Raider Dave

No, but isn't this what Bush said to Arafat?

244 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:16:43pm

re: #241 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Looks Great!
Sticking to your knitting, I see.

Knitting? Moi? Perish the thought. Am hopeless.

245 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:17:57pm

re: #164 jcm
Businesses in that are are probably furious.

246 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:17:59pm

re: #244 rightymouse

Knitting? Moi? Perish the thought. Am hopeless.

Put yer eye out.

247 Whiterasta  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:18:29pm

Everything bad that happens in the world is:

1: George Bush's fault.
2:America's fault.
3:Israel's fault.
4: The Joooos fault.
5:Global Warming. (Caused by the Joooos and George Bush.)

248 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:19:04pm

re: #244 rightymouse

Knitting? Moi? Perish the thought. Am hopeless.

Don't get "crochety" with me!

/sorry, I saw your up-thread about not knitting -- I was laying in wait for you with that one.

249 Naso Tang  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:19:41pm

This is nothing but a CYA by HRW so they can say next time they are criticized that they are being even handed and fair in their assessments.

They are just another NGO whose primary revenue comes from moonbats.

250 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:19:45pm

re: #246 debutaunt

Put yer eye out.

You ain't just whistlin' Dixie on that one. Whew!

I'll stick to crocheting.

251 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:19:47pm

One up on Wesley

252 n in wi  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:19:58pm

re: #247 Whiterasta

I some how missed Dems and liberals on your list.

253 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:21:29pm

re: #242 Boondock St. Bender

Yep, with Posada going for the surgery as stated the other day- and Molina doing good but not serviceable for everyday duties- what the hay? He lost his pop (we don't need it) but has a good .295 batting average- and of course a great gun. Which will come in perfectly when the running Angels come into town tomorrow after hopefully sweeping the red sux tonite. Tigers needed a reliever so there ya go. Sad, too bad, unexpected as Farnsy was doing good this year- guess we'll have to burn his uniform in a memorial. Now Pudge better show for Pitcher/Catcher meetings here- he be in a pennant race!

254 mattm  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:21:37pm

What human rights violations? Only the US has violated human rights.

/moonbat off

255 Whiterasta  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:21:42pm

re: #249 Naso Tang

.....:They are just another NGO whose primary revenue comes from moonbats..."

I disagree with you on that point. Their primary funding comes from taxpaying citizens, like you and me.

256 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:22:12pm
257 Racer X  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:22:17pm

re: #225 Boondock St. Bender

don't forget the first panamanian president as well(being he was born in the canal zone)

Nuh-ah. By their logic McCain is Vietnamese.

258 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:22:25pm

re: #251 Capitalist Tool

One up on Wesley

GAHH!
What IS it?

259 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:22:38pm

re: #248 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Don't get "crochety" with me!

/sorry, I saw your up-thread about not knitting -- I was laying in wait for you with that one.

Naughty you. lol!

/am a hopeless knitter

260 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:23:24pm
261 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:23:58pm

re: #253 LEGION

" Now Pudge better show for Pitcher/Catcher meetings here- he be in a pennant race!"
that might be a shock to his system!
the yanks do come alive in the dog days don't they?

262 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:24:17pm

re: #253 LEGION

I think it was a grerat move. As well as Farnsworth was pitching lately, no real Yankee fan trusted him in a clutch situation. Not even Girardi, who took him out with 2 on and one out the other day. After all when you have G-D, er I mean Marino in the pen.

263 Whiterasta  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:24:29pm

re: #252 n in wi

If Dems and Liberals ruled the world, we would all, all of us, be singing kumbuya and holding hands.

It's just the Joos screwing it up for everyone.....

264 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:25:36pm

re: #252 n in wi

He did say mostly Demorats- but I say TOTALLY lib Demorats traitor commie marxist atheist scum. If they STILL didn't get it after the palis raped/raided/destroyed the Million dollar Greenhouse that was supposed to feed them and make them money-then that and a billion other examples never will. Demorats make the laws- they control the congress. Bush did great never inviting those scumbags to the US to sleep in the Lincoln bedroom like the clit-tons did.

265 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:25:41pm

re: #260 buzzsawmonkey

Mice are cute, as long as they are not wandering uninvited around my kitchen.

True.

Do you have cats?

266 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:26:29pm

re: #263 Whiterasta

If Dems and Liberals ruled the world, we would all, all of us, be singing kumbuya and holding hands.

It's just the Joos screwing it up for everyone.....

Yeah, maybe, but most joos seem to be Liberal and Democratic? Splain that to me? And for the record, I am a right wing Jew- big time!

267 n in wi  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:26:40pm

re: #263 Whiterasta

Yes, and we would all shit ice-cream and it would rain sprinkles.

They are the one's we've been waiting for.

268 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:27:20pm

Just a periodic reminder, I am hosting a Lizard get together on this coming Friday, 5 to 7pm at a fine San Francisco eating and drinking establishement. So far I have 8 respondents. Would like that number to grow to a dozen or so. If you can't come, send your sock puppet. Email me for location.

269 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:27:44pm

re: #255 Whiterasta

.....:They are just another NGO whose primary revenue comes from moonbats..."

I disagree with you on that point. Their primary funding comes from taxpaying citizens, like you and me.

Nope, see page 8 ("Notes") of Human Rights Watch's financial statement

270 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:28:53pm

re: #268 rawmuse

Just a periodic reminder, I am hosting a Lizard get together on this coming Friday, 5 to 7pm at a fine San Francisco eating and drinking establishement. So far I have 8 respondents. Would like that number to grow to a dozen or so. If you can't come, send your sock puppet. Email me for location.

If I wasn't on duty this weekend, I have so many miles stocked up, I might have flown across country.

271 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:29:35pm

re: #262 Nevergiveup

Yeah, that was in the 1-0 win against Baaaston on Friday. Mariano done great for the 5 out save ehh? Watching the replay of today's game- Yanks scoring two in the first on A-rods hit- great slide by Abreau! El Comaduche- sweet as candy.

272 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:30:24pm

re: #268 rawmuse

Just a periodic reminder, I am hosting a Lizard get together on this coming Friday, 5 to 7pm at a fine San Francisco eating and drinking establishement. So far I have 8 respondents. Would like that number to grow to a dozen or so. If you can't come, send your sock puppet. Email me for location.

Nothing more exciting that a half-dozen sock puppets laying on the bar beside you.

273 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:32:21pm

Lizard meet-up or no, I am always good to buy a meal or drinks or both for any service man or woman. I prefer to do so anonymously, but no matter, it is my pleasure to do so at any time.

274 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:33:18pm

re: #272 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Phew! Hope they wash them!

275 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:33:44pm

File this under: How do you spell HYPOCRITE!

Acknowledging that accusations that he doesn't really live in Florida are raising "concerns" among his constituents, Democratic U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler said Tuesday that he will begin leasing an apartment in his congressional district rather than continue to claim residency at his in-laws' home near Delray Beach.

[Link: www.palmbeachpost.com...]

Gee, what a shock. Another Democrat who tells us to do as he says, not as he does!

276 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:34:38pm

re: #273 rawmuse

Lizard meet-up or no, I am always good to buy a meal or drinks or both for any service man or woman. I prefer to do so anonymously, but no matter, it is my pleasure to do so at any time.

It drive me crazy, but you look so much like James Bond, I'm amazed.

277 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:35:28pm

re: #276 debutaunt

It drive me crazy, but you look so much like James Bond, I'm amazed.

It's the tux. A tux gets you in anywhere.

278 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:36:11pm

Hey a number of Lizards have mentioned they've stayed in a Hotel Express and eaten at the nearby Chuck's Steakhouse off exit 4 / I-84 in Danbury, CT which is near me. East Coast meeting to be set up here pending interest!

279 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:36:25pm

re: #274 LEGION

Phew! Hope they wash them!

When rawmuse mentioned sending sockpuppets, I had an instantaneous image of a row of drinks set along a bar, with a sock "nose-down" in each.

280 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:36:55pm

re: #266 Nevergiveup

Never understood that myself- lots of folks mystified!

281 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:37:47pm

re: #279 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Instead of carnations- they could wear socks in their pockets!

282 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:38:32pm

re: #281 LEGION

Instead of carnations- they could wear socks in their pockets!

Cute! Then the attendees wouldn't need to ask for doggie bags.

283 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:38:57pm

re: #276 debutaunt

It drive me crazy, but you look so much like James Bond, I'm amazed.

Have you seen pics of Pierce's wife lately? Egads!

284 Timbre  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:39:00pm

O/T:

An Afghan journalist who printed a translation of the Koran in a Persian dialect is on trial for blasphemy and could face the death penalty if convicted. But with threats from various powerful groups, he could face the same fate even if acquitted.

(FOX News)

Charles: If someone did a translation of the Qur'an in Webdings font, would Rage Boy become Rage Hordes?

285 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:39:06pm
286 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:39:23pm

Rawmuse, you ARE taking notes ... aren't you?

287 willowone  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:39:42pm

re: #260 buzzsawmonkey

i was curious , do you do this type of thing off top of head, i have seen you type the most hillarious shtuff on such short notice, Y'say y'want a revolution, well, you know
We'd all love to change our tires
Barack says it's a contribution, well, you know
How much his rhetoric inspires
But when he talks about inflation
Don't you know that you can count me out
And you know it's gonna be
All right
amazing really

288 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:40:46pm

re: #277 rawmuse

It's the tux. A tux gets you in anywhere.

Yet some look like waiters, and others look a little dangerous.

289 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:41:20pm

re: #275 Nevergiveup

I first saw that broke on the O'Reilly Factor days ago- nice of them to finally print something about it. They were on last night saying all other congressmen in Fla. were living in their districts- he was the only one who wasn't- responding to Wexler's claim that it happens all the time- phhtt.

290 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:41:23pm

re: #285 buzzsawmonkey

No. Actually, I don't care for them much, and they make me sneeze. I'm more partial to dogs.

I did eat at Katz's Delicatessen once, though.

Dogs don't catch mice or rats well.

What do they serve at the Katz's deli?

291 akak  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:41:30pm

What is Quil in comparison to Google? They get a huge number of page results on searches in comparison?

292 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:42:01pm

re: #283 rightymouse

No- is that a good egads or a bad egads?

293 Whiterasta  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:42:35pm

re: #269 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That is why I love LGF. A million fact checkers.....

However, I still disagree.

The moonbats who contribute money to the NGO's get a tax deduction for their contribution, yes?

That means that you and I, John and Jane Taxpayer, who do not contribute to a leftist NGO are directly subsidizing those who do.

Perhaps a Lizard tax wizard could support, or destroy my arguement...

294 yochanan  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:42:47pm

re: #251 Capitalist Tool

wesley should look over his shoulder but i think the girlie is out of his league.

295 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:43:00pm
296 Timbre  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:43:01pm

re: #277 rawmuse

It's the tux. A tux gets you in anywhere.

I wasn't aware that many men had hemorrhoids...

/tux, Tucks, off terrible medical joke...

297 rawmuse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:43:05pm

re: #286 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes. No drive-by posts today.

298 debutaunt  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:43:32pm

re: #283 rightymouse

Have you seen pics of Pierce's wife lately? Egads!

What happened to her?

299 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:44:04pm

re: #290 rightymouse

Dogs don't catch mice or rats well.

What do they serve at the Katz's deli?

Isn't it obvious?

300 willowone  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:45:10pm

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey
lovely. i wish i had a mind so quick and fruitful. tg-d you do. it's a joy to watch.

301 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:45:13pm

re: #260 buzzsawmonkey

Mice are cute, as long as they are not wandering uninvited around my kitchen.

...and in the first few weeks of my administration, I will, uh,demonstrate that we can bring hope to all precious living things as we right old wrongs and, uh, act swiftly to end injustice in the world. And so, my, uh, fellow Americans, I ask you to join with me as we seize this opportunity to uh, change the world for the better and once again pick up the, uh, mantle of world leadership which has been, uh, squandered by this administration. We will, for the first time, uh, earn the right to the legacy of compassion which was, uh, so wrongfully attrib, uh, um, uh given to us in the past.
And as befitting our new place at the head of the table of the brothers and, uh, sisters of the world, uh, we will, uh, I will decree, uh, and declare, uh, that... that rats shall be cats as, uh, we right the wrongs inflicted upon countless generations of helpless rat victims in this recently cruelest of, uh, all nations, this, um, uh, United States.

From this glorious day forth, uh, no rat shall ever again wonder if such a cruel fate as has befallen generations of his, uh oppressed ancestors will, um. uh, be his, or hers, as no longer will the cruel punishments of the past in these United States, be, uh, visited on rats, as they take up the banner, uh of the new day and, uh learn to live as cats.

302 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:45:47pm

re: #293 Whiterasta

That is why I love LGF. A million fact checkers.....

However, I still disagree.

The moonbats who contribute money to the NGO's get a tax deduction for their contribution, yes?

That means that you and I, John and Jane Taxpayer, who do not contribute to a leftist NGO are directly subsidizing those who do.

Perhaps a Lizard tax wizard could support, or destroy my arguement...

Yeah, in the donation sense, true.

I did remember that George Soros is a major funder of HRW. That's why I went looking after seeing your up-thread post.

303 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:46:08pm
304 JSK1121  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:46:23pm

This guy, while probably a slightly nutty American Christain zealot, absolutely OWNS this aggressive follower of the ROP.

Liveleak Video

305 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:46:53pm

re: #292 LEGION

No- is that a good egads or a bad egads?

It's a good egads if you like her now rather than before.

306 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:49:03pm

re: #298 debutaunt

What happened to her?

See link at #305.

307 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:49:04pm

re: #303 buzzsawmonkey

I'm eating frozen via the microwave tonight, so if the food is good at Katz's, don't be reuben it in.

308 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:49:05pm

re: #303 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, they used to train certain breeds of dogs as rat-catchers in England, but I forget which ones they were. Better to live in a building that doesn't have a rodent problem.

Katz's Deli, which is still hanging on on East Houston Street in NY, is an old-style corned beef, pastrami, and salami cafeteria. Probably was kosher back in the day, but now just kosher-style. They have signs left over from WWII that say, "Send a Salami to Your Boy in the Army."

i have a friend who used to take his jack russell down to the puck bldg. in the '80's and that pup would come back w/ 20 rats in 2 minutes.
her name was "baby"

309 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:49:36pm

re: #299 Nevergiveup

GREAT pic of Winston C. as your icon there Nevergiveup- but a few spelling changes needed on your comment area there - really and growing need attention. :-)

310 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:49:46pm

re: #299 Nevergiveup

Isn't it obvious?

Not really. Some delis have special things that you can't get at other delis.

311 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:51:48pm

re: #307 pre-Boomer Marine brat

HA!

312 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:52:13pm

re: #303 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, they used to train certain breeds of dogs as rat-catchers in England, but I forget which ones they were. Better to live in a building that doesn't have a rodent problem.

Katz's Deli, which is still hanging on on East Houston Street in NY, is an old-style corned beef, pastrami, and salami cafeteria. Probably was kosher back in the day, but now just kosher-style. They have signs left over from WWII that say, "Send a Salami to Your Boy in the Army."

Our dog would probably take the rodents in as pets. The cats..not so much.

There's a deli/diner we go to every so often - their home-made corned beef hash is to die for. Always get that and a couple of poached eggs when we have breakfast there. Yummers.

313 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:52:30pm

re: #308 nyc redneck

Send a salami to your boy in the Army? Kinky!

314 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:53:23pm

re: #305 rightymouse

AHHHHHH-- oh well he likes her-- Shade in the Summer- Heat in the Winter!

315 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:54:07pm

re: #310 rightymouse

Not really. Some delis have special things that you can't get at other delis.

Actually I was making a small, very small, joke on Katz and cats. Guess it wasn't obvious?

316 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:54:16pm

re: #314 LEGION

AHHHHHH-- oh well he likes her-- Shade in the Summer- Heat in the Winter!

Ha!

317 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:54:23pm

re: #307 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Mmmmmm- we are having corned beef hash tonite. I'll trade!

318 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:55:00pm

re: #315 Nevergiveup

Actually I was making a small, very small, joke on Katz and cats. Guess it wasn't obvious?


I'm sorry - it went right over my head. My fault. Been a looooooong week.

319 Naso Tang  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:55:50pm

re: #255 Whiterasta

.....:They are just another NGO whose primary revenue comes from moonbats..."

I disagree with you on that point. Their primary funding comes from taxpaying citizens, like you and me.

Please explain how my tax dollars go to them.

320 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:58:15pm

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey

Of course. That's the challenge, the sport--the fun of it.


I don't know where the hell buzzsaw comes up with his posts.
I wish i had half of his quick wit, humor and insite..really kindof pisses me off..Buzz you are so cuil..
/How about a friendly game of HORSE?
//pllleeezzzeee?

321 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:59:16pm

re: #305 rightymouse

Hey, in that pic about his wife there was an advertisment for DVD's for the Man from U.N.C.L.E. - Robert Vaughn used to live in this estate in Ridgefield CT that I passed by on the way to my old job. He used to be seen around town tooling by in his antique cars. That place was on a list to be the first UN building they say. SO glad they said NO!

322 LEGION  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 4:59:33pm

re: #320 HoosierHoops

NEIGH!

323 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:02:48pm
324 rightymouse  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:02:56pm

re: #321 LEGION

Hey, in that pic about his wife there was an advertisment for DVD's for the Man from U.N.C.L.E. - Robert Vaughn used to live in this estate in Ridgefield CT that I passed by on the way to my old job. He used to be seen around town tooling by in his antique cars. That place was on a list to be the first UN building they say. SO glad they said NO!

Loved that series.

And glad they said 'no' too. Wish the UN wasn't on our soil. Bunch of thugs in expensive suits with diplomatic immunity.

325 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:05:25pm

re: #319 Naso Tang

Please explain how my tax dollars go to them.

We corrected part of that. See my

re: #269 pre-Boomer Marine brat

There's a link to HRW's financials, which says they get no money from gov'ts.

326 HoosierHoops  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:08:48pm

re: #323 buzzsawmonkey

What is "HORSE?"

Oh Dude..sorry i thought the whole world knew what horse is.. It's a global game..I'm so dumb.
It is a shooting game on the basketball court to see who makes the best shots..you have to make every shot that your partner makes.
I got beat by our son's girlfriend last summer.. She was just lights out!
And she trashed talked me the whole time..
This too far back for you old man? and the kids would be rolling on the sidelines laughing at me...
She is the #2 guard for our high school team this year..

327 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:11:13pm
328 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:11:27pm

out for the night
bye all!

329 Goneskiing  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 5:35:45pm

Someone please tell me Human Rights Watch ever expressed these concerns over the Israelis being murdered. Or is this reserved for Pali on Pali? Just asking.

330 darkster2400  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:07:31pm

re: #247 Whiterasta

Hey - how come we Jooos aren't Number 1?

Piss me off.....

331 Capitalist Tool  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:25:39pm

re: #330 darkster2400

Hey - how come we Jooos aren't Number 1?

Piss me off.....

Messin' with the shiksas in your off- duty hours sapped all your strength?

332 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 6:42:45pm

re: #305 rightymouse

It's a good egads if you like her now rather than before.

Call Greenpeace! There is a beached whale!

333 Aussie Infidel  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 7:28:30pm

So let me get this straight.

A bunch of wild eyed Pali Islamist nutjobs rape, torture and murder and it's all the fault of Western funders trying to improve the lot of the average Joe Schmo in the Gaza / West Bank street?

Who'd have guessed?


Where do they breed the fools in these self appointed 'Human Rights Front' organizations?


I figure that there is a secret farm someplace that grows then in 'pods'!


/sarc

334 insomniac  Wed, Jul 30, 2008 11:31:23pm
[Human Rights Watch] faulted the United States and other donors, who have bankrolled Abbas’s Palestinian Authority and Fatah-dominated security forces, for “not paying adequate attention to the systematic abuses by those forces.”

In the 170-page report, released on Friday [Nov 1 2002] and entitled "Erased in a Moment: Suicide Bombing Attacks against Israeli Civilians," Human Rights Watch claimed it could not find "evidence that Arafat or the PA planned, ordered, or carried out suicide bombings or other attacks on Israeli civilians."

.......we don't wish to come down too hard on Human Rights Watch. After all, the report, such as it is, marks a departure from Human Rights Watch's actions just a little over a year ago. Back in September 2001, the organization supported the resolution at the UN's conference on racism in Durban, South Africa where Israel was defined as "a racist apartheid state," guilty of the "systematic perpetration of racist crimes including war crimes, acts of genocide and ethnic cleansing and state terror against the Palestinian people." Apparently old habits are hard to break. After years of vilifying Israel, it cannot be easy for Human Rights Watch to admit that one of their favorite victims - the Palestinians - is systematically victimizing Israelis. But by refusing to contend with the overwhelming evidence of PA support and sponsorship of the terror war against Israel, we believe that Human Rights Watch failed in its primary function. That is, it failed to take the kind of action that could eventually lead to the end of these attacks by placing the blame on the group ultimately responsible for them - the Palestinian Authority.

excerpts from, EDITORIAL: Still apologizing for terror, JPost.com, Nov. 2, 2002

335 Goosio  Thu, Jul 31, 2008 3:37:21am

Interesting that the U.S. is always to blame, no matter what.

Still, it makes a good case for denying foreign aid to these savages. Which I'm all for.


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