These boots are made for walking.

That is the fakest thing I've ever seen.

Now this little fellow would fit just fine on Noah's Ark.

I don't know, I think this guy is a heel.

You mean to tell me that NOTHING disturbed the footprint in the mud, not rain, snow, sleet, wind, other animals, plants, etc etc etc etc etc , that it left such a perfect imprint?

Why doesn't that happen today?

So Was (Not Was) lied?

Why does Bambi Versus Godzilla suddenly come to mind?

Why do ducks have flat webbed feet?
Why do hominids have flat splayed feet?
Why do elephants have big flat feet?
Why do dinosaurs have enormous 3 toed feet?

Forest fires! It was all global warming folks.

Made by the previous Citizen of the World.

Damn! I need one of those to go with my Sasquach footprint collection.

Sorry Charles, John McCain left that track.

Hey, if you turn it right, you can also see the face of Obama, so it must be true!

“It is unbelievable, that’s what it is,” Alvis Delk, 72, said

Sums it up pretty well.

What's that in the upper-left corner?

An amateur removed the piece from it's location. Making in situ dating impossible and contaminating the find. Isotope dating will help, but it usefulness as evidence is hampered by it's removing with out a site study.

maybe like the dinosaur had just eaten the, ummm, caveman, like bit his head off and stuff,and, and, umm...he spit the foot out and it landed down where he just stepped, and, and he then ate some more cave guys, then the cave guys threw some spears at the dinosaur for eating their friend..and, and.........
/doing peepee dance

Was the print left by Piltdown man?

Sasquatch?

re: #16 MandyManners

What's that in the upper-left corner?

Big toe.

re: #20 Slumbering Behemoth

Sasquatch?

That was a kick ass "In search of"

This will fit nicely alongside the magic crystal skulls...

re: #17 jcm

An amateur removed the piece from it's location. Making in situ dating impossible and contaminating the find. Isotope dating will help, but it usefulness as evidence is hampered by it's removing with out a site study.

Once glance is all it takes for me. Those prints were carefully carved out by hand.

Noah killed the dinosaurs because they supported the invasion of Iraq.

I call B.S. The last 2 paragraphs immediatly tie the find into using it for "balanced educational teaching in the classroom". Just a little too convenient. IMO.

Some people will do anything for attention.

Piltdown man.
Cardiff Giant.

Obviously these are legitimate.

re: #26 experiencedtraveller

Noah killed the dinosaurs because they supported the invasion of Iraq.

No, he killed them so that we could use them for oil.

That's one hell of a big toe.

Look at the hole it made.

And I'm not sure that's a dinasaur foot-print.

More likely, THIS or THIS.

re: #17 jcm

An amateur removed the piece from it's location. Making in situ dating impossible and contaminating the find. Isotope dating will help, but it usefulness as evidence is hampered by it's removing with out a site study.

Yeah, that is too bad, since right next to it was a gold coin with Jesus' face and the date 3977 BC clearly printed on it.

re: #24 zombie

Once glance is all it takes for me. Those prints were carefully carved out by hand.

Looks clay molded. Radio isotope dating will be interesting. The edges between the human toes look sharper than a weathered piece might.

The man-toes are way too well-defined. It is not a footprint made while walking. It looks very fake.

Viewed upside down while inebriated, one can see a prophet surrounded by a halo.

Coincidence? I think not.

re: #31 JamesTKirk

No, he killed them so that we could use them for oil.

And they taste great on the grill

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Didn't Leonard Nimoy (Spock) host that show?

re: #24 zombie

The human print might be real. It might be! The "dinosaur" print not so much.

"The estimated 140-pound stone was recovered in July 2000 "
In other words, the stone’s impressions indicate that the human stepped first, the dinosaur second. If proven genuine, the artifact would provide evidence that man and dinosaur roamed the Earth at the same time, according to those associated with the find and with its safekeeping. It could potentially toss out the window many commonly held scientific theories on evolution and the history of the world.

If it was found eight years ago and may have such scientific importance ...........why are we just now hearing/reading about it?

re: #40 Inquisitive

"The estimated 140-pound stone was recovered in July 2000 "
In other words, the stone’s impressions indicate that the human stepped first, the dinosaur second. If proven genuine, the artifact would provide evidence that man and dinosaur roamed the Earth at the same time, according to those associated with the find and with its safekeeping. It could potentially toss out the window many commonly held scientific theories on evolution and the history of the world.

If it was found eight years ago and may have such scientific importance ...........why are we just now hearing/reading about it?

Because "those associated with the find and with its safekeeping" are keeping it safe from anyone who can critically examine it and debunk it.

re: #38 Slumbering Behemoth

Didn't Leonard Nimoy (Spock) host that show?

Yup.

Fauxcheology

Smart edgy popular teachers will collect stuff like this for the Joke Wall Bulletin Board. Any body ever hear of the old JIR?

re: #39 Iron Fist

The human print might be real. It might be! The "dinosaur" print not so much.

It doesn't necessarily prove that humans were alive way back in dinosaur time; it could instead prove that some dinosaurs managed to survive into human time.

Anyone who reads Dilbert already knows that. They're hiding behind the sofas.

That not a dinosaur footprint. That's an impression of the top of Bart Simpson's head.

“I seen the (human) track coming out and (saw) that it was a man,” Delk said. “I thought to myself, ‘Lord, I’ve been shown man was here when the dinosaur was here this will make a nice bookend to those Sasquatch print castings I have in the library'. Oh, and I better brush up on my English, while I'm at it, because only idiots say 'I seen something'.’”

I have a mental picture of the ID people banging their cages like baboons over this, and it isn't pretty.

FWIW - the "human" footprint looks suspiciously like Fred Flintsone's.

That's not a dinosaur! It's a Gorn!

Quick, where did I leave my charcoal, sulfur, diamonds, and bamboo?

I'm not sure if saying Darwin is tongue in cheek. Considering they didn't have internet, public library's or ways to carry out modern research....

re: #48 theheat

I have a mental picture of the ID people banging their cages like baboons over this, and it isn't pretty.

FWIW - the "human" footprint looks suspiciously like Fred Flintsone's.

Nope, the Flintstones (as cartoon characters) had only four fingers and four toes IIRC.

They are the transitional state.

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

Where are the transitional footprints?

Checkmate.

Actually the dumbass time traveler that left that print has now caused a temporal paradox. The Universe is gonna explode...

That other print is clearly from a Sleestak.

So the human print is probably Marshall.

I always wondered what befell my grandpa.

Signed,

Regular Sasquatch.

re: #54 Peacekeeper

Actually the dumbass time traveler that left that print has now caused a temporal paradox. The Universe is gonna explode...

BHO's election is foreordained!

*Sound of Thunder* original short story not the dumbass movie.

That print came from a failed theme park somewhere in Central America.

Hey, what happened to the 24-hour rule? Or is it 48?

re: #55 Occasional Reader

That other print is clearly from a Sleestak.

So the human print is probably Marshall.

CHAKA!

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That show was something else, seen a few episodes of it when I was a little kid. Did they ever do an "In Search of...Santa Clause"?

+1 for the Tenacious D clip

I read a couple articles on the link - it seems that what appears to be a human footprint may indeed be a dinosaur print. We cannot get any sizing from this image but the articles say they are not "giant" human footprints but dinosaur prints - so apparently the "human-like" prints are really big...

Every time he laid down some fresh, wet limestone, some damn fool had to step in it.

re: #54 Peacekeeper

Actually the dumbass time traveler that left that print has now caused a temporal paradox. The Universe is gonna explode...

Not as long as we elect Barry Ruler On High!

Batboy Slays T-Rex
-Enquirer story 64,000,000 BC

re: #52 JamesTKirk

Okay, so maybe it was Fred and Wilma's offspring taking Dino for a walk.

Piltdown Man, immediately comes to mind.

The actual stone is now in the possession of the Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas.

Right.

re: #33 itellu3times

Yeah, that is too bad, since right next to it was a gold coin with Jesus' face and the date 3977 BC clearly printed on it.

And in the strata below was the core of the apple that Adam and Eve ate.

Piltdown Man

THis might also be an
E. Clampus Vitus

Hi-jink

What you need to find are some coprolites. One good pile deserves another.

One day we'll be the fossils and peeps will still be arguing over the stuff we left behind.

This hoax was already perpetrated once by Henry Morris in the Genesis Flood.

I would like to point out something about that "Dinosaur" print.

Here
Here
Here

Clearly, that is the footprint of The Famous SD Chicken.

re: #69 JamesTKirk

And in the strata below was the core of the apple that Adam and Eve ate.

Can't be. I happen to have that core for sale on E-BAY right now, as well as Elvis's last ,, umm,,, welll,,,, meal!

Unbelieveable. Truly.

Oy! It's Nimoy!

re: #71 rawmuse

What you need to find are some coprolites. One good pile deserves another.

:-)

re: #24 zombie

Once glance is all it takes for me. Those prints were carefully carved out by hand.

I can't tell that, I do think it is amazingly fortuitous that the guy wanted to send it to a creation group and then he serendipitously finds a previously undiscovered human print. Don't that just beat all?

re: #72 Peacekeeper

One day we'll be the fossils and peeps will still be arguing over the stuff we left behind.

Scientifically, of course

[Link: www.peepresearch.org...]

BTW, I have been to Dinosaur Valley in Glen Rose TX and have seen the dino tracks in the river. Cool and awesome. I believe this "new find" is a silly and unnecessary hoax until proven otherwise.

The giveaway is the depth of the impressions.

A dinosaur with a paw that big would weigh several tons. The impression that it would leave in the mud would be much much deeper than the impression made by a comparatively lightweight human. And yet the "human big toe" impression goes down further than any part of the "dinosaur" impression. Impossible

Of course, there are 65 million other problems with this childish hoax, but that's the first one that comes to mind.

re: #72 Peacekeeper

One day we'll be the fossils and peeps will still be arguing over the stuff we left behind.

Really? The human race will be followed by sentient marshmallow treats?

re: #22 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That was a kick ass "In search of"

With Leonard Nimoy
Kickin out the jams?

My friends I have here genuine relics of Jesus for sale. What is that you say? You cannot afford a genuine relic of Jesus? You say your house is to small to hold a genuine relic of Jesus? Have no fear. Today we can sell you, at a significant discount, this lovely and convenient relic of the baby Jesus.

re: #83 JamesTKirk

Really? The human race will be followed by sentient marshmallow treats?

Sorry but note I beat you to the Peeps(tm) reference

Sergeant Hulka?

That is sedimentary stone, the bottom of the "human" print is well above the "dinosaur" print. That means that the "Human" print is much more recent.

re: #26 experiencedtraveller

Noah killed the dinosaurs because they supported the invasion of Iraq.

I thought it was because they ate all the unicorns.

Does anyone want to venture an over/under on when this will be proven real or fake?

re: #75 sattv4u2

Can't be. I happen to have that core for sale on E-BAY right now, as well as Elvis's last ,, umm,,, welll,,,, meal!

You want to talk Elvis and archaeology, you need to read this.

re: #91 JamesTKirk

You want to talk Elvis and archaeology, you need to read this.

Romans were White?!?

re: #83 JamesTKirk

That was to be the plot of episode 83.

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

Reportedly, if one gathered together all the pieces of the True Cross that were circulating as relics in the Middle Ages, you'd have the equivalent of enough timber to frame a McMansion.

Obviously, those were actually pieces of Noah's Ark.

This creationism vs darwinism stuff is a little ridiculous...

People, if God exists then what is a day to God? Could be a million years, 10 million years? Problem with people of my faith they seem to take 6 days as 24 period per day. Maybe God made Dinosaurs got bored and decide to start over...the older God got the better he got at making things...when I was a kid I couldn't draw very well but I kept at it and slowly got better at it. Then, God left the world alone for a couple of day which to us could mean millions of years, and animals evoled on there own.

The Big bang theory? Bang! Matter was created? By whom? Until man can produce matter out of thin air...his theory is weak. Here's my theory God clapped his hands and bang, the universe started. I have know proof but it is as logical as bang!

I am sorry to tell most of the humans on this planet that we are in the infancy of our time on earth...but we think we know everything. Amazing.We can predict global warning but can't predict if it going to rain.

Just had to get some of it off my chest...I feel better.

re: #89 ErnieG

I thought it was because they ate all the unicorns.

Whoa, I thought the unicorns just drowned in the flood. I knew that didn't make sense- of course, the dinosaurs ate them!

When I was in high school, back in the '70's, I had an Earth Science teacher show us the Man/Dinosaur Track movie. We were a pretty skeptical/secular bunch before the movie and a pretty skeptical/secular bunch after the movie.

The teacher, recently born-again, wanted to talk to us about the movie sooo bad afterwards, but knew he was on thin ice showing us the flick in the first place such that he didn't dare chat about it.

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

I abhor cheap sediment.

I took that for granite.

re: #40 Inquisitive

"The estimated 140-pound stone was recovered in July 2000 "
In other words, the stone’s impressions indicate that the human stepped first, the dinosaur second. If proven genuine, the artifact would provide evidence that man and dinosaur roamed the Earth at the same time, according to those associated with the find and with its safekeeping. It could potentially toss out the window many commonly held scientific theories on evolution and the history of the world.

If it was found eight years ago and may have such scientific importance ...........why are we just now hearing/reading about it?

Its been stored in a crop circle for safe keeping.

re: #16 MandyManners

What's that in the upper-left corner?

It's our newest, bestest big toe buddy.

re: #84 GoJeepGo

Not quite Jim Nabors, but what did you expect?

re: #54 Peacekeeper

Actually the dumbass time traveler that left that print has now caused a temporal paradox. The Universe is gonna explode...

If only that time traveler had heard the advice my father gave me on my wedding day: "If you ever travel back in time, don't step on anything, because even the tiniest change can alter the future in ways you can't imagine."

re: #97 tex68

This creationism vs darwinism stuff is a little ridiculous...

People, if God exists then what is a day to God? Could be a million years, 10 million years? Problem with people of my faith they seem to take 6 days as 24 period per day. Maybe God made Dinosaurs got bored and decide to start over...the older God got the better he got at making things...when I was a kid I couldn't draw very well but I kept at it and slowly got better at it. Then, God left the world alone for a couple of day which to us could mean millions of years, and animals evoled on there own.

The Big bang theory? Bang! Matter was created? By whom? Until man can produce matter out of thin air...his theory is weak. Here's my theory God clapped his hands and bang, the universe started. I have know proof but it is as logical as bang!

I am sorry to tell most of the humans on this planet that we are in the infancy of our time on earth...but we think we know everything. Amazing.We can predict global warning but can't predict if it going to rain.

Just had to get some of it off my chest...I feel better.

Could I buy some pot from you?

Personally I think talking dinosaurs would have been a way cooler choice than pink talking monkeys, but I'm just glad to be here.

Charles, guys, heads up, Obama just said this at a campaign rally:

" But we could save all the oil they're talking about getting off drilling, if everybody was just inflating their tires and--and--and getting regular tune-ups. You could save just as much."

[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

SOMEONE HELP AMERICA FROM THIS MAN'S PLANS...please.

Could I buy some pot from you?

Get a turtle

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

Gneiss of you.

No schist

But I could swear that foot print belonged to Kent Hovind.

re: #105 Ben Hur

I guess you didn't comprehend what I was getting too...probably all the pot you've been smoking.

PZ Myers: Transparent fakery

It's supposed to be a human footprint with that of an Acrocanthosaurus on top of it, showing that dinosaurs walked the earth after human beings.

Unfortunately, they both look ridiculously fake. The human print has toes like tubes and a wierdly dug-in big toe, and looks ridiculously fake. The dino print is even worse — it's basically a three-pronged flat plate, looking like it was modeled after the smooth bottoms of a plastic dinosaur toy. Here, for instance is a photo of a cast of an actual dinosaur print.

re: #83 JamesTKirk

Really? The human race will be followed by sentient marshmallow treats?

We are doomed to exactly that bleak future, unless we invest more in microwave directed energy weapons.

Before we conclude that Darwin really was stupid after all, though, see:
Paluxy Dinosaur/’Man Track’ controversy.

This is the footprint used by Morris: The "Burdick Print". There's a link to the picture there.

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

Reportedly, if one gathered together all the pieces of the True Cross that were circulating as relics in the Middle Ages, you'd have the equivalent of enough timber to frame a McMansion.

To my surprise I heard the contrary. The total volume of officially recognized relics turns out to be smaller than feared. The wiki article on this seems reliable.

re: #28 lawhawk

Some people will do anything for attention.

Piltdown man.
Cardiff Giant.

Gah - there's a Cardiff in NY?
And here I was thinking to meself, like, why haven't I heard of that Giant? He'd have been carried into the stadium before every International, to make the opponents even more scared (especially the English), for sure ... and now he's not even fake Welsh ...

re: #104 Occasional Reader

If only that time traveler had heard the advice my father gave me on my wedding day: "If you ever travel back in time, don't step on anything, because even the tiniest change can alter the future in ways you can't imagine."

Imagine the uproar if that Dino had stomped a Budweiser can?

re: #90 uncleFuzzy

If it's in the hands of the Discovery Institute, how 'bout the twelfth of never?

I hate it when those pesky velociraptors go through my garbage.

re: #118 Peacekeeper

Are we taking the Lexus to Aunt Patty & Selma's funeral?

re: #112 tex68

I guess you didn't comprehend what I was getting too...probably all the pot you've been smoking.

It was an obscure reference to Animal House.

Larry: [to Jennings, while high] Okay. That means that our whole solar system could be, like one tiny atom in the fingernail of some other giant being. [Jennings nods] This is too much! That means one tiny atom in my fingernail could be--

Jennings: Could be one little tiny universe.

Larry: Could I buy some pot from you?

re: #114 Occasional Reader

We are doomed to exactly that bleak future, unless we invest more in microwave directed energy weapons.

That's a plot by the ultra intelligent Popcorn brains of 6500AD.

re: #99 Sabnen

Oh, you were lucky. In my HS biology/science classes, there were plenty o'belivin' creationists. Can't tell you how many times I was screamed at, called a satanist, etc. because I didn't buy their drivel. The teachers were disappointed as well. (early 80s)

re: #122 Ben Hur

It was an obscure reference to Animal House.

Larry: [to Jennings, while high] Okay. That means that our whole solar system could be, like one tiny atom in the fingernail of some other giant being. [Jennings nods] This is too much! That means one tiny atom in my fingernail could be--

Jennings: Could be one little tiny universe.

Larry: Could I buy some pot from you?

And dare I say, the BEST POST I'VE EVER POSTED.

re: #119 theheat

Agreed.

I suspect they would keep that one close to the chest until they go under or get too desperate. Neither of which are gonna happen anytime soon.

What would we use to power the air pumps that fill our tires?

re: #122 Ben Hur

It was an obscure reference to Animal House.

Larry: [to Jennings, while high] Okay. That means that our whole solar system could be, like one tiny atom in the fingernail of some other giant being. [Jennings nods] This is too much! That means one tiny atom in my fingernail could be--

Jennings: Could be one little tiny universe.

Larry: Could I buy some pot from you?

Got ya! Forgot about that part of the movie hadn't seen it in quite some time.

Run Uglug, RUN!

I find the lack of globular clusters in the big toe compelling.

re: #128 Ben Hur

What would we use to power the air pumps that fill our tires?

Bicycle pump.

re: #131 buzzsawmonkey

Have you never used a hand tire pump?

Only one week a month.

re: #73 Sharmuta

This hoax was already perpetrated once by Henry Morris in the Genesis Flood.

A total crock of coprolite.

re: #54 Peacekeeper

Actually the dumbass time traveler that left that print has now caused a temporal paradox. The Universe is gonna explode...

I have VERY vague memories of a sci-fi short story from the 50's or 60's. Paleontologists warp back into time, with a Jeep. One manages the return trip to present-day. The other (with the Jeep) doesn't make it. The first goes excavating the riverbed where he and his friend had been. He finds jeep tracks, then Tyrannosaurus tracks ... chasing the long-gone jeep. tum da dum dum

re: #131 buzzsawmonkey

Have you never used a hand tire pump?

Is that a type of hand jive?

Anyone ever seen an old animated movie called BC Rock. Freaking hysterical. I have never been able to find it on DVD (though I admit it has been a while since I have looked)

re: #83 JamesTKirk

Really? The human race will be followed by sentient marshmallow treats?

Along with their Twinkie pets.

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

I abhor cheap sediment.

This thread rocks!

re: #136 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I read the story, too... I think it was either Asimov or Clarke. I recall that the last T-Rex tracks uncovered are closer and closer together, as the dino was catching up to the Jeep.

we will all be long dead , and the next groups of beings will be snacking on our twinkies

These Creationist make the same mistake that some scientist do: you won't find God by digging in the ground.

So the evidence suggests that the Garden of Eden was in Mineral Wells, Texas?

Nope, ain't buying that. Trust me on this one.

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

I abhor cheap sediment.

Low. Really low.

re: #100 Kenneth

I took that for granite.

That's not gneiss.

re: #109 madisonsfriend

Get a turtle

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

What an a-hole.

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

every is stoned?

re: #98 madisonsfriend

Whoa, I thought the unicorns just drowned in the flood. I knew that didn't make sense- of course, the dinosaurs ate them!

The hollow ones floated and formed the YEC movements in Turkey and North America.

re: #113 Killgore Trout

It does look fake- as fake as a five and dime diamond ring.

re: #128 Ben Hur

What would we use to power the air pumps that fill our tires?

What sort of products are involved in a car's tune-up? How are they made?

/Obama is a genius, I tells ya. Next up: Conserve our milk resources, buy cheese!

One day, in the far, far future, our sun will transform itself in to a red giant. Then, our oceans will boil off and everything on the earth will be a frikkin' cinder.

So, in light of that, it is all the more urgent to make the SF Lizard meet-up on Friday 5-7pm. Email me for details.

re: #142 Occasional Reader

I read the story, too... I think it was either Asimov or Clarke. I recall that the last T-Rex tracks uncovered are closer and closer together, as the dino was catching up to the Jeep.

Yes. "tum da dum dum"

I can't remember how it ends. Someone as good as Asimov of Clarke could well have left it hanging (and the reader's nails shredding the copy of Analog in wide-eyed ... ARRGHH.)

re: #138 Ford_Prefect

"What are ya gonna do, stick a cork up my..."

Sorry to distract from the ongoing Darwin/creation/ID obsession, but did you see the story of the man who decapitated someone on a Greyhound bus last night?

Yikes, some bold demons prowling about.

re: #155 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I can't remember how it ends.

I think THAT'S how it ends... our narrator relating the T-rex tracks closing in on his friend's Jeep. The rest is left to your imagination.

re: #157 Kerfuffle

Sorry to distract from the ongoing Darwin/creation/ID obsession, but did you see the story of the man who decapitated someone on a Greyhound bus last night?

Yikes, some bold demons prowling about.

Survival of the fittest.

Off-topic, sorry.

Has anyone read "After Bush" by Lynch and Singh (Cambridge University Press) ?

The authors lay out a case for continuing foreign policy along the lines of what has been done in the Bush administration.

One of the reviews: "This provocative account dares to counter the dogma of Bush's Beltway detractors and his ideological enemies, boldly arguing that Bush's policy deservedly belongs within the mainstream of the American foreign policy tradition."

Reviews seem to run along those lines. I've only seen the ads, haven't spotted it in my bookstore. Perhaps someone in this august pack of lizards has seen it.

Wanna have fun? Get some concrete, a bucket and mix any combination of objects that you'd care to have them puzzle ove in 1,000,000 years.

There is no rational explanation for a coke and a pepsi to be in the same strata as tofu and Al Gores face..

re: #146 The Shadow Do

So the evidence suggests that the Garden of Eden was in Mineral Wells, Texas?

Nope, ain't buying that. Trust me on this one.

How about Van Horn?

re: #141 pre-Boomer Marine brat

This thread rocks!

We take it for granite that this thread is very gneiss. Shale we continue without a fault?

re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth

"What are ya gonna do, stick a cork up my..."

"I can't believe you stuck a cork up my...

Not bad. Not to f*cking bad."

re: #157 Kerfuffle
too many are losing their heads lately. (ack sorry)

re: #154 rawmuse

One day, in the far, far future, our sun will transform itself in to a red giant.

No, brother. We are witnessing the moment when the planet began to heal itself, and the oceans stopped rising, and the sun began to renew itself. Change.

re: #126 buzzsawmonkey

Very interesting. It appears that my information may have been both inaccurate and incomplete.

Now now that's OK. I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

/duck

re: #124 dahozho

Good for you not to buy their drivel. Frankly, we were all dumb-founded this guy showed us the film, but we were such that none of us ratted him out or complained. We were more embarrassed for him than anything.

This stuff just keeps coming around and around again. Kind of like a "sucker born every minute" a new generation has to learn (unlearn?) this lesson every time it's presented. That's not progress, that's treading water. I wish we could move along.

re: #155 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes. "tum da dum dum"

I can't remember how it ends. Someone as good as Asimov of Clarke could well have left it hanging (and the reader's nails shredding the copy of Analog in wide-eyed ... ARRGHH.)

Actually the guy driving the jeep set off global warming which killed the dinosaurs that were chasing him...

re: #157 Kerfuffle

Sorry to distract from the ongoing Darwin/creation/ID obsession, but did you see the story of the man who decapitated someone on a Greyhound bus last night?

Yikes, some bold demons prowling about.

There's supposed to be an RCMP briefing this afternoon, Manitoba time.

re: #158 Occasional Reader

I think THAT'S how it ends... our narrator relating the T-rex tracks closing in on his friend's Jeep. The rest is left to your imagination.

SHIT!
My mouse just splintered!
/lingering memories

Karl Rove was definitely in on this.

re: #171 pre-Boomer Marine brat

SHIT!
My mouse just splintered!
/lingering memories

I thought Splinter was a rat.

Relevant to all today's threads:

Al Gore Places Infant Son In Rocket To Escape Dying Planet

re: #124 dahozho

Oh, you were lucky. In my HS biology/science classes, there were plenty o'belivin' creationists. Can't tell you how many times I was screamed at, called a satanist, etc. because I didn't buy their drivel. The teachers were disappointed as well. (early 80s)

What did your parents do? I can't think of any parents I know who wouldn't have been down at school in 30 seconds raising a whole lot of trouble if their kid had been "screamed at, called a satanist."

What state and school district was this anyway?

re: #170 pre-Boomer Marine brat

There's supposed to be an RCMP briefing this afternoon, Manitoba time.

Maybe they'll put Sergeant Preston on the case.

re: #157 Kerfuffle

Sorry to distract from the ongoing Darwin/creation/ID obsession, but did you see the story of the man who decapitated someone on a Greyhound bus last night?

Yikes, some bold demons prowling about.

Good grief.

re: #173 CyanSnowHawk

I thought Splinter was a rat.

Algernon

re: #173 CyanSnowHawk

I thought Splinter was a rat.

Fits in well with the turtle discovering the marijuana field earlier in this thread.

Via HotAir

The Church Of Obama

As Obama has become a symbol for all that is good, it has become important to differentiate between the denominations that constitute the Church of Obama:

*Southern Obamaists: This is the chief fundamentalist sect of Obamaism. Their most important tenets are that every word spoken by Obama is to be taken literally and that there are no contradictions in anything he has ever written. They also believe that the world was created 46 years ago.

*Evangelical Obamaists: This denomination is hard to distinguish from the Southern Obamaists politically, but in appearance its members are less dour, put more focus on spreading the word of Obama, and will often sway to the music at Obama rallies (hips not included). They are often referred to as Born Again Barackites, as they have voted for other candidates from different parties in the past, but have been baptized by re-registering.

*Universalist Unitarian Obamaists: This denomination believes there are other politicians besides Obama, but they enjoy the fellowship of the weekly campaign events. They are the least reliable Obamaists, as they aren’t certain if they will vote for Obama, or if he even exists at all.

*Catholic Obamaists: This group is split between those who are going through the motions because they long ago gave up believing in all but the most basic precepts of Obamaism, while the other half of the group is made up of traditionalists and new recruits who tend to be older. Both groups are united in their ignoring of the stricture against using non-union made rubber jackets.

*Pentecostal Obamaists: They believe in demonstrations of faith looked down upon by other denominations. For example, they believe their faith in Obama will allow them to drink non organic green tea and to eat non-local, non-free range chicken without being exposed to any side effects. This denomination includes many congregants who become so excited when they speak about Obama that they often appear to be speaking gibberish (known as speaking in tongues), as well as members who attend Obama rallies and pass out after being filled with Obama (known as slaying in the spirit).

*Abamaists: This is a small group that is made up of arrogant members who mistakenly think they are the smartest people in the world. After Hillary lost the primary, they no longer believe there is a Democrat nominee.

re: #174 itellu3times

Relevant to all today's threads:

Al Gore Places Infant Son In Rocket To Escape Dying Planet

So long and thanks for all the fish.

re: #161 Peacekeeper

Wanna have fun? Get some concrete, a bucket and mix any combination of objects that you'd care to have them puzzle ove in 1,000,000 years.

There is no rational explanation for a coke and a pepsi to be in the same strata as tofu and Al Gores face..

Reminds me of those lame "time capsules" that are opened after like 40 years. Ooh, look, 8-track tapes!

re: #171 pre-Boomer Marine brat

SHIT!
My mouse just splintered!
/lingering memories

What did you do? Stomp on it?
(Be kind to your mice - they can bite back ...)

re: #163 Honorary Yooper

We take it for granite that this thread is very gneiss. Shale we continue without a fault?

Let's get to the core of the matter.

re: #157 Kerfuffle

Sorry to distract from the ongoing Darwin/creation/ID obsession, but did you see the story of the man who decapitated someone on a Greyhound bus last night?
Yikes, some bold demons prowling about.

only a few dozen times or so. tell us more. ;)

re: #174 itellu3times

Hilarious! I particularly like the caption on the photo, "Young Gore sets out for his new home, where the sky is clear, the water is clean, and there are no Republicans." Thank you, the Onion.

re: #182 Occasional Reader

Reminds me of those lame "time capsules" that are opened after like 40 years. Ooh, look, 8-track tapes!

I love hearing about the ones that get lost. School is built, they bury a time capsule, 30, 40, 50 years later they can't find it.

re: #164 Ford_Prefect

I saw that film many years ago. The dragon scene is the only one I remember.

re: #136 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I thought that was a ride at Epcot.

re: #63 buzzsawmonkey

"There were giants in those days," if you recall Genesis.

Giants with 3 toes?

re: #170 pre-Boomer Marine brat

They held the press conference a short time ago. and the RCMP isn't releasing any details with respect to the perp -- the RCMP say that the perp has yet to be charged. When the perp's charged, then they'll release the details. All they're saying right now is that the perp is 40 years old and male and "out of province" (that is, not a resident of Manitoba.) (the perp, imo, was definitely psychotic.)

re: #183 yma o hyd

What did you do? Stomp on it?
(Be kind to your mice - they can bite back ...)

Oh, I was just remembering the suspense build-up in the sci-fi story we were discussing. Maybe not Poe-like, but very well done.

goliath

Completely OT and Urgent:

If anyone in the NYC metro area has had to deal with a spinal surgeon and can recommend someone who is knowledgeable about compression fractures and complications or masses associated with the spine, please contact me. MRI and CT scans have been run, and the prognosis isn't exactly positive.

We're looking for a second opinion after getting an opinion from the team at Hospital for Special Surgery. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

we should have checked out his feet

re: #192 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, I was just remembering the suspense build-up in the sci-fi story we were discussing. Maybe not Poe-like, but very well done.

:-)))

re: #171 pre-Boomer Marine brat

SHIT!
My mouse just splintered!
/lingering memories

Ray Bradbury, Sound of Thunder, 1952

re: #191 J.S.

They held the press conference a short time ago. and the RCMP isn't releasing any details with respect to the perp -- the RCMP say that the perp has yet to be charged. When the perp's charged, then they'll release the details. All they're saying right now is that the perp is 40 years old and male and "out of province" (that is, not a resident of Manitoba.) (the perp, imo, was definitely psychotic.)

Thanks very much. Saves me some time.

re: #197 jcm

Ray Bradbury, Sound of Thunder, 1952

Nope, different story.

re: #188 Slumbering Behemoth

I saw that film many years ago. The dragon scene is the only one I remember.

STEWIE!

I am convinced that the voice of the dragon was Bill Murray, though he was not credited.

re: #199 Occasional Reader

Nope, different story.

That's right Sound of Thunder is the Butterfly Effect.

re: #162 pre-Boomer Marine brat

No, only lizards there I'm afraid.

re: #194 lawhawk

Completely OT and Urgent:

If anyone in the NYC metro area has had to deal with a spinal surgeon and can recommend someone who is knowledgeable about compression fractures and complications or masses associated with the spine, please contact me. MRI and CT scans have been run, and the prognosis isn't exactly positive.

We're looking for a second opinion after getting an opinion from the team at Hospital for Special Surgery. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Obviously I don't know anybody - but prayers for the patient, and you.

re: #194 lawhawk
will say refuah shlema , i know of no-one

re: #127 uncleFuzzy

This rerminds me very much of the famous faked historical documents sold to the Mormon church by Mark Hofmann, in more ways than one. Oddly enough, the very people responsible for, or claiming authentication, are the same people in possession of said artifacts. Methinks there is more to these tracks than we'll ever know.

The Patterson Sasquatch tracks were also "authenticated", even though there was a lot of evidence after the fact the entire thing was a well-planned hoax, using a lumbering hulk of a man from Yakima that actually did walk like that, and a fur suit purchased from a Hollywood costume maker. But to the people who want to believe in Bigfoot, those tracks were 100% real, could not have been faked.

Umm... really good fakes have been pulled off more than once.

re: #194 lawhawk

Yikes.

No useful info at the moment, sorry.

Thoughts with you (your family?).

re: #194 lawhawk

Completely OT and Urgent:

If anyone in the NYC metro area has had to deal with a spinal surgeon and can recommend someone who is knowledgeable about compression fractures and complications or masses associated with the spine, please contact me. MRI and CT scans have been run, and the prognosis isn't exactly positive.

We're looking for a second opinion after getting an opinion from the team at Hospital for Special Surgery. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Good luck to you, wish I did, Might be facing similar issues if I can get workman's comp to ok my getting a diagnosis.

re: #175 wolfie

The screaming and name-calling was done by students, not teachers. The teachers could be fairly oblivious.

The students (some had been friends) were caught up in the whole 'born-again' fevor in that time & place. Most have grown out of it. They never would have laid a hand on me-- never would've gotten away with it. (Tall, athletic, never been in a fight in my life, but have the attitude that if you start something, I'll finish it. Which does seem to work, even if you don't know about the martial arts background. Oh, and yeah, father on the bench.) Actually, we're normally a fairly well-educated bunch in IA.

re: #184 Cygnus

Let's get to the core of the matter.

As long as we can do so without basalting one another, or getting too sedimental.

re: #200 Ford_Prefect

Actually I just did a google search for BC Rock and it apparently is on DVD now. I will have to get that. I bet that my wife just won't get it though. Definitely more guy humor.

re: #197 jcm

Ray Bradbury, Sound of Thunder, 1952

Not it, but interesting.

re: #184 Cygnus

Let's get to the core of the matter.

You two would be real gems if you allow me to say that you crack me up. I understand the foundation of your conversation, and appreciate this peak inside, however, the refuge I am seeking cannot be found here.

Lawhawk
God Bless.

re: #200 Ford_Prefect

I am convinced that the voice of the dragon was Bill Murray, though he was not credited.

Heh, turns out you're correct.

Originally a French film, Murray did the voice in the English dubbed version.

I'm reluctant to give more information about who my request for information relates to, but appreciate the warm wishes, thoughts and prayers. They are certain to come in handy.

re: #197 jcm

Ray Bradbury, Sound of Thunder, 1952

Love Ray Bradbury. I often find myself rereading passages because of the vivid imagery in his prose.

They keep finding these severed feet washing up on beaches in British Columbia.

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

Maybe this guy switched ends.

The Dino ate my homework

re: #202 The Shadow Do

No, only lizards there I'm afraid.

A veritable hill 'a monsters.

/naw ... gotta try again

From the link:

The actual stone is now in the possession of the Creation Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas.

Does this not tell us something, people?

re: #215 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh, turns out you're correct.

Originally a French film, Murray did the voice in the English dubbed version.

I did not know that it was originally french. That actually kind of ruins it for me. Oh well, I will have to just pretend I never read that. NANANANANANA

re: #219 KSK

The Dino ate my homework

That's what they all parrot*.

/*well, they may not eat homework, but modern-day dinos do like to leave those wonderful white droppings all over cars.

understood

The butterfly the ancient Grecians made
The soul's fair emblem, and its only name--
But of the soul, escaped the slavish trade
Of mortal life !--For in this earthly frame
Ours is the reptile's lot, much toil, much blame,
Manifold motions making little speed,
And to deform and kill the things whereon we feed.

Psyche, Samuel taylor Coleridge 1808

re: #210 Ford_Prefect

Actually I just did a google search for BC Rock and it apparently is on DVD now. I will have to get that. I bet that my wife just won't get it though. Definitely more guy humor.

Read some of the comments on IMDB, if the DVD is an Australian version chances are that it wont be the same as the version you've seen in the past.

Reptiles get it? Unh you lot don't know your samuel Coleridge's from your motherfuckin' Samuel Jacksons...

re: #220 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ok, you got me?.....

re: #228 buzzsawmonkey

Oooooh. Ding-up for that one.

re: #221 Cap'n DOC

From the link:

Does this not tell us something, people?

What you expect 'em to give to UT or A&M?

re: #174 itellu3times

Relevant to all today's threads:

Al Gore Places Infant Son In Rocket To Escape Dying Planet

That was great! I liked the related article to:

'Time' Publishes Definitive Obama Puff Piece

"When the American people cast their vote this November, this is the piece of fluff they're going to remember," Stengel said. "Not the ones by Newsweek, Harper's, The New Yorker, The Atlantic, The New Republic, The Economist, Nightline, The Wall Street Journal, or even that story about lessons Obama learned from his first-grade teacher we ran a month ago."

re: #219 KSK

The Dino ate my homework

No kidding. One of my memories from 7-years-old is of a dream in which a gentle brontosaurous stuck his head in my bedroom window and kindly ate the dirty clothes laying on the floor. I'd undoubtedly been catching hell from my parents about the mess.

re: #200 Ford_Prefect

STEWIE!

I am convinced that the voice of the dragon was Bill Murray, though he was not credited.

Here is the imdb link.

French film from 1980. Le Chaînon manquant (The Missing Link)
Released in the US as B.C. Rock.

Just a guess about the availability, but the thing that held up the Heavy Metal video release for so long was the music rights.

This print is illustrated in more detail here:

[Link: www.creationevidence.org...]

particularly amusing is the utterly useless "CT scan". Normally, a high resolution CT scan might be invaluable for looking at deformation patterns in the sediment, but the example provided is risable.

What if it's real?

re: #229 Peacekeeper

Reptiles get it? Unh you lot don't know your samuel Coleridge's from your motherfuckin' Samuel Jacksons...

That's Samuel L. Jackson to you.

re: #237 Ben Hur

What if it's real?

It's not.

re: #235 CyanSnowHawk

Here is the imdb link.

French film from 1980. Le Chaînon manquant (The Missing Link)
Released in the US as B.C. Rock.

Just a guess about the availability, but the thing that held up the Heavy Metal video release for so long was the music rights.

That could be. I remember there being some good music in the English speaking version.

re: #230 The Shadow Do

Ok, you got me?.....

Yeah, it was pretty bad.
"hill 'a monsters"
"Gila Monsters"

The NCSE (National Center for Science Education) had long and very helpful articles on this issue
See
Here
Here

re: #237 Ben Hur

What if it's real?

What do you mean "what if"?

/

re: #239 Sharmuta

It's not.

But what if it is?

re: #237 Ben Hur

What if it's real?

What if Obama is right, and giving car an oil-change helps conserve, um, oil.

re: #226 Peacekeeper

Manifold motions making little speed,

Could be a fuel injector problem.

re: #232 jcm

What you expect 'em to give to UT or A&M?

The Aggies sure wouldn't know the difference.

/death wish

re: #246 Ben Hur

But what if it is?

Then Lucy you got some 'splainin' to do.

Well then, we would find out yet again that we really have only scratched the surface of all that we do not know.

re: #217 Ford_Prefect

Love Ray Bradbury. I often find myself rereading passages because of the vivid imagery in his prose.

Just so. Something Wicked this Way Comes. Vivid imagery indeed. I read it many years ago (more than once), but still remember the effect of his description of arm hairs standing on end as the circus approached - a sensation that is hard to describe, but certainly evil scary in a simple verbal snapshot.

re: #229 Peacekeeper

Reptiles get it? Unh you lot don't know your samuel Coleridge's from your motherfuckin' Samuel Jacksons...

You are the albatross around LGF's neck.

re: #237 Ben Hur
Time travel exists in the future!

re: #237 Ben Hur

What if it's real?

No chance!
Ever looked at human footprints on the beach, just after the tide has gone out? Any of them ever looked like that sorry attempt?
And thats just for starters ...

re: #237 Ben Hur

What if it's real?

It's real in the sense that it exists & has corporeal form.

re: #228 buzzsawmonkey

The actual stone is now in the possession of the Creation Created Evidence Museum in Glen Rose, Texas.

Dan Rather, proprietor.

re: #241 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ooooooh

re: #255 yma o hyd

No chance!
Ever looked at human footprints on the beach, just after the tide has gone out? Any of them ever looked like that sorry attempt?
And thats just for starters ...

Couldn't the same be said for dinosaur prints?

i wish Obama would have suggested no stop lights

re: #246 Ben Hur

But what if it is?

And what if monkeys fly out of my butt?

re: #261 willowone

i wish Obama would have suggested no stop lights

While in the crosswalk?

Maybe the dragon tales that are found in cultures that would have never interacted were the stories of the last dinosaurs.

re: #256 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Good point!
Its real all right.

re: #40 Inquisitive

"The estimated 140-pound stone was recovered in July 2000 "
In other words, the stone’s impressions indicate that the human stepped first, the dinosaur second. If proven genuine, the artifact would provide evidence that man and dinosaur roamed the Earth at the same time, according to those associated with the find and with its safekeeping. It could potentially toss out the window many commonly held scientific theories on evolution and the history of the world.

If it was found eight years ago and may have such scientific importance ...........why are we just now hearing/reading about it?

The lack of universal health care.

re: #237 Ben Hur

What if it's real?

Of course it's real. Do you think those things in Jurassic Park were FAKE?!

Later folks

I don't know about this footprint, but the ones I am about to leave are real enough. Later Lizards. Happy posting.

re: #263 tgibson1962
well i wouldn't go that far, buti did laugh at that

re: #262 Sharmuta

And what if monkeys fly out of my butt?

monkey or monkeys?

What if people wanted so much to believe in their faith, that they faked something to try and prove it?

So if man and dino really did walk the earth together why are there no cave drawings of this ? ... I would think that cave drawings would be more common

re: #261 willowone

When Obama is President god, it will be all green lights, in all directions, all the time.