New McCain Ad: 'The One'
Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:03:28 pm PDT
The most sarcastic political advertisement ever?
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Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:03:28 pm PDT
The most sarcastic political advertisement ever?
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nyexpat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:06:03pm |
Yes! I loved this ad! This shows McCain's sense of humor. I wonder how the NYT is going to manage to call this one racist!
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Lizard by the Bay Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:06:28pm |
Beautiful. Just beautiful.
But will the average (non-political junkie) person get it?
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:07:09pm |
Hm.
Mixed feelings.
McCain needs to start hammering Obama on his empty ideas, and highlighting his own. It's hard to win an election by simply running as "I'm not the other guy".
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:07:10pm |
Big fat zero.
That's not the letter O at the front of his name. It's a zero.
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sinsremoved Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:07:22pm |
I just had an epiphany.
Oh wait . . . . that was Charlton Heston.
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:07:29pm |
re: #6 Lizard by the Bay
Beautiful. Just beautiful.
But will the average (non-political junkie) person get it?
I would think so.....it's so self-contained ...... using Obama's own words to paint the picture.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:07:29pm |
What a Friday! The McCain ad, the testicular fortitude the Republicans have shown on the House floor. And to think the day still is not over yet.
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P. Aaron Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:07:40pm |
The McCain camp is showing a bit of guts.
BFT!
I like it!
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Bacchus's daddy Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:07:50pm |
I'm afraid the sarcasm may bounce right off some of the room-temperature IQ voters.
/then again, they don't often vote (R) anyway
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:08:19pm |
re: #9 Occasional Reader
Hm.
Mixed feelings.
McCain needs to start hammering Obama on his empty ideas, and highlighting his own. It's hard to win an election by simply running as "I'm not the other guy".
I think that is were McCain is heading. First amking fun of the Messiah, and I hope he will soon start poointing out his empty record also.
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:08:44pm |
OMG! THAT WAS BRILLIANT!
I'm actually in tears
"and a light will come down, from... somewhere!"
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:09:12pm |
Oh, McCain is going to get skewered over this ONE! lol!
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:09:15pm |
It's pretty good and I'm glad McCain's camp is mocking the Obama brand but they need to mix things up some. If they keep doing this every few days they're going to appear obsessed. They need to mix in a few more policy based ads.
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Diamond Bullet Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:09:38pm |
AWESOME.
The Obama Presidential seal parting the seas was fantastic.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:10:01pm |
Eggselent. Not too much of this, though. Mix it up the punches. Let's see some combinations.
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:10:16pm |
I can't wait to hear the howling from the left on this one.......if we thought it was bad with the last ad, this should be a lot worse.
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:10:28pm |
It's a spot Obama could have made except for the very end.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:11:54pm |
re: #20 Killgore Trout
It's pretty good and I'm glad McCain's camp is mocking the Obama brand but they need to mix things up some. If they keep doing this every few days they're going to appear obsessed. They need to mix in a few more policy based ads.
I agree- McCain needs to do an ad on energy. He'd make inroads telling Americans he wants to drill here and cut gas taxes.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:12:09pm |
That's the best McCain ad yet. May there be many more.
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shibumi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:12:13pm |
Love the use of Charleton Heston as Moses, 'behold the seal.' LOL
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:12:19pm |
re: #24 eschew_obfuscation
I can't wait to hear the howling from the left on this one.......if we thought it was bad with the last ad, this should be a lot worse.
Yes- comparing him to Moses is racist.
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:12:20pm |
Many celebrities missing the point and bitching about McCain's Celeb Ad.
Still nothing about why 'The One's' energy and tax policies look like they were written by wishful thinking airheads.
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ContraJihadi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:12:40pm |
Superb! I have to send this to my son, who, alas, is still dazzled by the glare.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:12:44pm |
It kind of remids me of Hillary's 3:00 AM ad. And that ad was effective.
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shibumi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:12:56pm |
re: #24 eschew_obfuscation
I can't wait to hear the howling from the left on this one.......if we thought it was bad with the last ad, this should be a lot worse.
I'm guessing their heads might explode over this one. Expect the word 'racist.'
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:13:18pm |
The Obama campaign has already responded -
Basically McCain is childish while 51,000 people lost their jobs and only Obama has solutions because he will bribe us all with $1000.
Pretty lame response.
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:15:01pm |
Here is the Obama camp response
"It’s downright sad that on a day when we learned that 51,000 Americans lost their jobs, a candidate for the presidency is spending all of his time and the powerful platform he has on these sorts of juvenile antics," said spokesman Hari Sevugan. "Senator McCain can keep telling everyone how ‘proud’ he is of these political stunts which even his Republican friends and advisors have called ‘childish’, but Barack Obama will continue talking about his plan to jumpstart our economy by giving working families $1,000 of immediate relief."
As pretentious as anything in the ad.
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Dad O' Blondes Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:15:14pm |
That's the "Daisy" ad for the 2008 Presidential election.
This messaging crystallizes all the reasons why voting FOR Obama will lead to ruin.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:15:19pm |
re: #35 karmic_inquisitor
The Obama campaign has already responded -
Basically McCain is childish while 51,000 people lost their jobs and only Obama has solutions because he will bribe us all with $1000.
Pretty lame response.
But he is gonna raise our taxes. So will I have to pay like 3000 more to get my 1000?
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yma o hyd Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:15:27pm |
re: #26 Sharmuta
I agree- McCain needs to do an ad on energy. He'd make inroads telling Americans he wants to drill here and cut gas taxes.
I'm hoping they'll use what is happening today in the house, coupled with the $1,000 bribe promised to each tax payer by the BO.
BO needs to say what he wants to do - then McCain can lay into him on his politics - so far there is a big O where BO#s politics need to be.
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newsjunkie_ky Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:15:28pm |
That was so good, I'm going to break down and send McCain some money. Hope his campaign keeps this up until Nov.
Don't Back Down!
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Blastforth Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:16:04pm |
"Behold His mighty hand!" I think Charlton Heston would have apporved, God rest his sole.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:16:06pm |
re: #37 karmic_inquisitor
In a way, Obama just proved McCain's point with his response.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:16:14pm |
Yes, time to turn up policy heat on the Obama, every single day.Make the skinny wussy's head spin on its axis.
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:16:19pm |
re: #40 Nevergiveup
But he is gonna raise our taxes. So will I have to pay like 3000 more to get my 1000?
Hey. Knock that shit off! No thinking allowed this election cycle.
You have been warned.
/
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:16:24pm |
re: #34 shibumi
I'm guessing their heads might explode over this one. Expect the word 'racist.'
The left's idea of humor is mocking others. But when they're mocked, they become enraged. This should be humorous to watch
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kansas Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:16:25pm |
re: #4 nyexpat
Yes! I loved this ad! This shows McCain's sense of humor. I wonder how the NYT is going to manage to call this one racist!
Easy. It shows Obama. We know that's racist.
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Victrola Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:16:32pm |
Oh, man. The Charlton Heston clip had me pissing my pants I was laughing so hard!
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yochanan Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:17:01pm |
AND DONK HIGHER TAXES AND HIGHER GAS PRICES and how many jobs will be lost by higher taxes and higher gas prices.
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Capitalist Tool Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:17:28pm |
Youtube's bogged down w/ all the Lizard world converging...
I've got 16MB down and it bogs.
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shibumi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:17:31pm |
re: #35 karmic_inquisitor
Basically McCain is childish while 51,000 people lost their jobs and only Obama has solutions because he will bribe us all with $1000.
Only $1000? I thought I was going to get some sort of uber tax refund when he summarily defunded the Iraq war. Or maybe a new house. Or free health insurance for life. Or a free Wii.
/sarc
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:18:41pm |
re: #42 newsjunkie_ky
That was so good, I'm going to break down and send McCain some money. Hope his campaign keeps this up until Nov.
Don't Back Down!
The great thing is that there is an unlimited supply of video clips where Obama flatters himself.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:18:44pm |
Tsk tsk, a group of blacks heckled the Obama today, demanding him to answer what he would do for oppressed blacks.
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Semper Gumbi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:19:05pm |
re: #53 shibumi
Only $1000? I thought I was going to get some sort of uber tax refund when he summarily defunded the Iraq war. Or maybe a new house. Or free health insurance for life. Or a free Wii.
/sarc
No. No. No. The new house and free Wii is for slavery reparations.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:19:17pm |
re: #55 vagabond trader
What about the Black community, Obama?
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jaunte Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:19:59pm |
re: #37 karmic_inquisitor
51,000 jobs? Think of the thousands of jobs that will be created if we begin drilling for oil here in our own country.
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venjanz Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:20:06pm |
Did David Zucker do this one? Not quite his style, but close...
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kansas Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:20:12pm |
re: #54 karmic_inquisitor
The great thing is that there is an unlimited supply of video clips where Obama flatters himself.
Actually showing Obama is off limits. Don't your understand? And the response will be in the MSM 15 seconds after a clip is run.
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:20:20pm |
re: #53 shibumi
Or a free Wii.
If you want some free Wii go to Up Your Alley 2008 in SF.
/ Did I read "wii" wrong?
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Blastforth Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:20:36pm |
re: #35 karmic_inquisitor
re: #35 karmic_inquisitor
The Obama campaign has already responded -
Basically McCain is childish while 51,000 people lost their jobs and only Obama has solutions because he will bribe us all with $1000.
Pretty lame response.
Many many, more people will lose their jobs as our economy has to re-tool from fossil fuels to whatever. That's what the evironmentalists want.
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:21:16pm |
re: #4 nyexpat
I wonder how the NYT is going to manage to call this one racist!
Would McCain run the same ad about a white malignant narcissist? /
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CyanSnowHawk Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:21:25pm |
re: #53 shibumi
Only $1000? I thought I was going to get some sort of uber tax refund when he summarily defunded the Iraq war. Or maybe a new house. Or free health insurance for life. Or a free Wii.
/sarc
Is it too early to demand the "End of Iraq War Dividend" not be used to fund a whole bunch of new socialist programs?
"End of Iraq War Dividend" - There has to be a good acronym to be pulled out of that.
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twincitiesgirl Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:21:58pm |
McCain's getting a little edgy......I like it
/my sound isn't working so this comment is based on the visual only
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kansas Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:22:05pm |
re: #65 HelloDare
Would McCain run the same ad about a white malignant narcissist? /
Yeah, but then it wouldn't show a black guy, now would it? Get the point?
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wrenchwench Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:22:08pm |
Oh my gosh--they're quoting Obama! Racist! !1! !
/I just wish Charlton Heston was alive to see it
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:22:16pm |
(in late)
HOLY SHIT!
What a kick-ass!
LOL!
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tbarney Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:22:42pm |
re: #44 Blastforth
"Behold His mighty hand!" I think Charlton Heston would have apporved, God rest his sole.
Indeed. Wandering around for forty years is gonna wear out a few sandals. :-D
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist!
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:22:46pm |
re: #64 Blastforth
re: #35 karmic_inquisitor
Many many, more people will lose their jobs as our economy has to re-tool from fossil fuels to whatever. That's what the evironmentalists want.
Yes - the theory is that pre-industrialized poverty will have a smaller impact on the planet.
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Karagush Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:22:48pm |
Obabmas gonna solve it all by paying 1000$ for a vote hunh? hes resorted to trying to BUY people, instead of offering solutions. I am sorry the greedy may go for it but must decent people will see how dirty that is and how little he respects them. thats low. even for him.
I loved this ad. But the next one needs to be on energy And how Mc Can wants to be Going after all solutions, and starting right now!
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:23:03pm |
$1000? That's it? For some families that wouldn't last a month. For others- it won't eve cover the house payment. That's chump change to a lot of American families. Man- that's really out of touch.
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:23:07pm |
re: #35 karmic_inquisitor
A thousand dollar tax rebate for everybody who votes for Obama!
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kansas Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:23:23pm |
re: #69 wrenchwench
Oh my gosh--they're quoting Obama! Racist! !1! !
You got the idea. Quoting him, showing his picture.... racist. Well that and Nazi.
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newsjunkie_ky Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:23:33pm |
re: #54 karmic_inquisitor
You are so right. Every day he provides more fodder for the McCain campaign to mock him.
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Fiery Red XIII Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:23:46pm |
Charles, CHECK THIS OUT! Repubs protesting at capital after Pelosi has lights/mics shut off and press kicked out to hide it!
[Link: glocktalk.com...]
Red
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141Driver Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:24:32pm |
Put this ad on TV, it is very good.
Plus, "It’s downright sad that on a day when we learned that 51,000 Americans lost their jobs, the Democrats deserted their Congressional duties, as well as the the American people, to take a vacation!"
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noshariaincanada Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:24:41pm |
next ad: "the TWO" featuring BHO and Michelle - the rantings and ravings of both !
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doppelganglander Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:25:46pm |
I love this ad so much! I'm sure Charlton Heston is smiling from the great beyond.
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karmic_inquisitor Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:25:47pm |
This feed may be faster of The One for those who have been waiting on the download.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:25:51pm |
Upping the ante: Vote for ME for President - write me in on Election Day - and, if elected, I will send a ten billion dollar tax rebate to every American.
That's right. Ten BILLION dollars each.
Think it over.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:26:05pm |
re: #80 141Driver
Great point, however, since John nor Barack have been in the senate for a while, don't think it would fly.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:26:23pm |
re: #65 HelloDare
Would McCain run the same ad about a white malignant narcissist? /
It depends on how much video effluvium the white malignant narcissist has already put out.
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DistantThunder Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:26:42pm |
Don't any of the Republicans have internet and Icams on their computers so that they can blog live from the floor and show us what is going on.
They are being held hostage by the Democrats/
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:26:47pm |
"We are the ones we've been waiting for."
"I hope we're not to messianic, or a trifle too satanic....love to play the blues SAVIOUR."
Power to the Correct People!
(They know that God is, they're not.)
NObama!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:26:57pm |
re: #85 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Great point, however, since John nor Barack have not been in the senate for a while, don't think it would fly.
Sheesh.
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Karagush Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:27:12pm |
Hmmm after an ad showing energy policy we need to show how obama is a communist. his CHANGE is to socialism, and we dont want that... but how?
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newsjunkie_ky Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:27:18pm |
re: #60 venjanz
Did David Zucker do this one? Not quite his style, but close...
Me too.
If you notice a whole bunch of moonbats like to make comments at youtube. C'mon Lizards go rate up this and the McCain ads and leave some comments.
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DistantThunder Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:27:30pm |
re: #80 141Driver
Put this ad on TV, it is very good.
Plus, "It’s downright sad that on a day when we learned that 51,000 Americans lost their jobs, the Democrats deserted their Congressional duties, as well as the the American people, to take a vacation!"
YES! Let's call them Democrat deserters!
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:29:00pm |
re: #79 Fiery Red XIII
Charles, CHECK THIS OUT! Repubs protesting at capital after Pelosi has lights/mics shut off and press kicked out to hide it!
[Link: glocktalk.com...]
Red
Update 6 - Rep Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) just pretended to be a Democrat. He stood on the other side of the chaber and listed all of the GOP bills that the Dems killed.
He then said "I am a Democrat and here is my energy plan" and he held up a picture of an old VW Bug with a sail attached to it. He paraded around he house floor with the sign while the crowd cheered.
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OldLineTexan Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:29:18pm |
re: #81 noshariaincanada
next ad: "the TWO" featuring BHO and Michelle - the rantings and ravings of both !
No Michelle. That will generate sympathy from the misguided who think she's not part of the campaign.
/Yes, in post-Clinton America, many have still not learned that behind the strangely inexact man is a powerful woman
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EriKTheRed Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:29:39pm |
re: #35 karmic_inquisitor
The Obama campaign has already responded -
Basically McCain is childish while 51,000 people lost their jobs and only Obama has solutions because he will bribe us all with $1000.
Pretty lame response.
Best possible rejoinder: "Yeah, but unlike Obama, McCain wasn't running around in a self-indulgent tour of European countries while 51,000 people lost their jobs."
Not quite as good as "Clean, Sober, and at home with his wife." but it's reasonably snappy.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:29:40pm |
re: #91 Karagush
I like the energy policy ad, but a good follow up might be obama's record in DC. What bills has he authored? What bills has he gotten signed into law? What is his voting record? What has the man done? Show that he's an empty suit- and let obama try to call that racist.
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Karagush Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:30:20pm |
re: #95 The Other Les
Update 6 - Rep Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) just pretended to be a Democrat. He stood on the other side of the chaber and listed all of the GOP bills that the Dems killed.
He then said "I am a Democrat and here is my energy plan" and he held up a picture of an old VW Bug with a sail attached to it. He paraded around he house floor with the sign while the crowd cheered.
that would make an awesome political commercial right there. seriously.
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:30:33pm |
Haven't you heard?
Calling Obama arrogant is saying he's "uppity".
Heard that on Orielly the other day.
But you can still call me a racist "cracker". That's still cool and PC and progressive.
PTTCP
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newsjunkie_ky Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:30:38pm |
re: #83 karmic_inquisitor
This feed may be faster of The One for those who have been waiting on the download.
Or go here to youtube.
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Libs are Mental Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:30:43pm |
I really like the idea for a commercial I saw yesterday. McCain and a Blow up doll looking like Obama doing a Town Hall like debate. Every time the blow up doll is asked a question all you get is change/hope/change from Obama's speeches, while McCain answers with real ideas.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:30:56pm |
Drive by post.
I think McCain will look lame with ads purely attacking Obama like this.
I'd prefer he worked on the issues. The problem there, though, is that people have been brainwashed by the MSM to believe the BS that BO produces could work.
Obama wants the US to get rid of nuclear weapons (although he said he'd keep some as long as other countries did); too many people think that nukes are bad, when we would have had at least one more full-blown world war without them. (And besides, Obama is so naive that Putin and Amadmanonjihad could say they've gotten rid of nukes, and then, after Obama does, say "Look what we found!")
Maybe the ad is the best that can be done. I don't know; regular ads don't work on me that well, and they obviously work on most people, or we wouldn't have all these brands; everything would be generic.
Off for dinner.
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:31:20pm |
McCain points out that Obama is passing himself off as a New Age Messiah.
They counter with what? That McCain is passing himself off as a war hero? Nah, can't do that, because he is a war hero.
Barry & Michelle have created a treasure trove of sound bites to be exploited. The Obama campaign must be frantic. You just know that they thought that Barry's race would inoculate him.
Look for a deck of race cards to be played by them
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Right Brain Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:31:40pm |
John McCain is erasing his age problem with his raucous humor!
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:32:51pm |
re: #89 IslandLibertarian
"We are the ones we've been waiting for."
"I hope we're not to messianic, or a trifle too satanic....love to play the
bluesSAVIOUR."Power to the Correct People!
(They know that God is, they're not.)NObama!
Try this.
[Link: necrobamacon.blogspot.com...]
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:33:00pm |
Obama just ran up against the old fighter pilot.......and got flamed.
*small McCain chuckle*
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:33:34pm |
re: #106 Right Brain
Well, at least his people are setting them up. But he sure as hell is approving the messages. Good form Senator McCain. Good form.
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ladycatnip Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:34:10pm |
#37 karmic_inquisitor
Here is the Obama camp response
"It’s downright sad that on a day when we learned that 51,000 Americans lost their jobs, a candidate for the presidency is spending all of his time and the powerful platform he has on these sorts of juvenile antics," said spokesman Hari Sevugan. "Senator McCain can keep telling everyone how ‘proud’ he is of these political stunts which even his Republican friends and advisors have called ‘childish’, but Barack Obama will continue talking about his plan to jumpstart our economy by giving working families $1,000 of immediate relief."As pretentious as anything in the ad.
They forgot to mention how long the appropriate mourning period for the 51,000 should be.
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razorbacker Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:34:25pm |
McCain best watch his step. You don't go dissing somebody's religion.
Liable to be a Fatwah on him.
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M. Bensson-Levi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:34:35pm |
Hello y'all, y'all,
I am so glad that this is for real. I was afraid that it was just a goof. This is brass knuckles, you are a dink and a half, campaigning. Good for Mac, and his bombers! Obviously, kid gloves reticence, and misguided decorum is a thing of the past.
Go ahead, DO what Jesse the Racebaiter, was only jawin' about! It don't take much.
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Karagush Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:34:42pm |
Tammy Bruce is on Fox talking about this ad. She loves it.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:35:13pm |
These are still just internet ads. I am hoping the TV ads will be alittle more hard hitting about the issues. In particular that there is no substance what so ever to Obama.
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:35:16pm |
re: #108 The Shadow Do
Obama just ran up against the old fighter pilot.......and got flamed.
*small McCain chuckle*
Yup. I didn't know if McCain could be as nasty to a Democrat as he can be to Republicans.
No doubt now. Barry is a little overmatched in this street fight.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:36:19pm |
re: #105 opnion
McCain points out that Obama is passing himself off as a New Age Messiah.
They counter with what? That McCain is passing himself off as a war hero? Nah, can't do that, because he is a war hero.
Barry & Michelle have created a treasure trove of sound bites to be exploited. The Obama campaign must be frantic. You just know that they thought that Barry's race would inoculate him.
Look for a deck of race cards to be played by them
My previous comment on this phenomena:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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25years Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:36:29pm |
Hallelujah – I LOVE it. Now, after reading these comments and enjoying the video, please go to [Link: www.johnmccain.com...] and give him some money so this ad gets airtime.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:36:33pm |
No way, the Obama refers to his campaign jet as O-Force One? That is rich!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:36:39pm |
re: #113 Karagush
I heart Tammy Bruce. Miss her on Sirius Sat. Radio.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:36:47pm |
Kristian Powers is such a liberal hack. I'd rather see Coles, and he is better looking- well maybe not.
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Kobyashi Maru Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:37:54pm |
Oh boy ,this is THE one that will put the election in the bag for Mac. It's about time his campaign put out the truth!
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newsjunkie_ky Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:38:14pm |
re: #114 Nevergiveup
These are still just internet ads. I am hoping the TV ads will be alittle more hard hitting about the issues. In particular that there is no substance what so ever to Obama.
Email the link to everyone in your address book. They will forward it on. This is out the message gets out to the public.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:38:20pm |
I live the cut to Charlton Heston as Moses. lmao
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:38:39pm |
re: #116 The Other Les
My previous comment on this phenomena:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Well said
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Filala Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:38:41pm |
I think McCain needs to start showing ads featuring the reasons people should vote FOR him, rather than going so negative about Obama. McCain is coming across as a grumpy old guy who is too much on the defensive - the One ad just shows that his admen have a great sense of humor.
When the Dems say that we shouldn't drill because we won't get any oil for 10 years or so, why not point out that if the Arab world starts to believe that we really mean what we say, they'll lower the price anyway to dampen our desire to move away from them. They need our cash to buy up our country right from under us.
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JSK1121 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:39:04pm |
re: #37 karmic_inquisitor
Here is the Obama camp response
As pretentious as anything in the ad.
So does that mean that the 51,000 who lost their jobs won't be entitled to the $1,000 because they're not 'working Americans?'
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RememberSekhmet? Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:39:19pm |
From all reports, John McCain has a wicked sense of humor, and can laugh at himself--qualities Obama seems ot lack.
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ladycatnip Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:40:15pm |
I love this ad. The more McCain uses O's own words the better. Obama is doing all the dirty work, not McCain, and the surface has only just been scratched. Also hope he includes the "57 states and one more to go" in an ad, as one would presume that presidents should at least know basic American geography and civics - Obama flunks both subjects.
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MandyManners Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:40:19pm |
This is absolutely the best ad I've ever seen.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:40:41pm |
re: #122 newsjunkie_ky
Email the link to everyone in your address book. They will forward it on. This is out the message gets out to the public.
Yeah- a little problem with that. Those who I talk to are voting for McCain already. Those that would vote for Obama, I don't talk to. And that includes my moonbat sister.
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debutaunt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:40:53pm |
re: #37 karmic_inquisitor
Here is the Obama camp response
As pretentious as anything in the ad.
Robbing hoodlum will steal money from the oil companies and give it to the voters. Genius.
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newsjunkie_ky Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:41:22pm |
re: #129 ladycatnip
I love this ad. The more McCain uses O's own words the better. Obama is doing all the dirty work, not McCain, and the surface has only just been scratched. Also hope he includes the "57 states and one more to go" in an ad, as one would presume that presidents should at least know basic American geography and civics - Obama flunks both subjects.
I see only one problem, most of the people voting for The One have no clue how many states there are.
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:42:00pm |
re: #128 RememberSekhmet?
Liberals do not have a sense of humor when it comes to their own fragile little ego or their false prophets.
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:42:23pm |
re: #125 Filala
I think McCain needs to start showing ads featuring the reasons people should vote FOR him, rather than going so negative about Obama. McCain is coming across as a grumpy old guy who is too much on the defensive - the One ad just shows that his admen have a great sense of humor.
When the Dems say that we shouldn't drill because we won't get any oil for 10 years or so, why not point out that if the Arab world starts to believe that we really mean what we say, they'll lower the price anyway to dampen our desire to move away from them. They need our cash to buy up our country right from under us.
The problem with that is , that this election is different.
It is a referendum on Obama. McCain is the default candidate.
The question is, is Barack a real shaman of the New Age or is he just a fradulent, narcissist that is not now & never will be prepared to lead?
McCain is saying the latter.
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DistantThunder Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:42:31pm |
re: #120 Nevergiveup
Kristian Powers is such a liberal hack. I'd rather see Coles, and he is better looking- well maybe not.
Kristen always seems depressed and negative. i guess if I were a Democrat, I would be too.
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looking closely Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:42:32pm |
re: #75 Sharmuta
$1000? That's it? For some families that wouldn't last a month. For others- it won't eve cover the house payment. That's chump change to a lot of American families. Man- that's really out of touch.
Hey, a thousand bucks is a thousand bucks. That'll buy enough beer to forget about Obama for a few weeks, maybe.
But a more hare-brained gov't run wealth re-allocation scheme is difficult to imagine. The gov't should not be in the business of handing out Federal checks to people, period. If its got so much extra cash lying around to do that, let it reduce taxes instead, so that the people who are actually FILLING the coffers derive the benefit.
As already mentioned, the increased Obama payroll, income, and capital gains taxes are going to cost many Americans a LOT more than that $1000. (I've done the math for myself, and it ain't pretty).
If anyone from the McCain campaign is reading this, please put up a web "widget" that will let a surfer put in their income, and how much extra cash in taxes an Obama Presidency would cost them over four years.
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noshariaincanada Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:42:52pm |
re: #97 OldLineTexan
No Michelle. That will generate sympathy from the misguided who think she's not part of the campaign.
/Yes, in post-Clinton America, many have still not learned that behind the strangely inexact man is a powerful woman
ok, but IMO a few well-chosen video quotes of Michelle, and Obama's toast.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:43:43pm |
re: #134 newsjunkie_ky
Yes, that is a problem. They are also the same people who can't figure out how to mark a ballot or use a voting machine.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:44:00pm |
How many people does The One think will lose their jobs if his take money away from the oil companies and hand it around plan goes into effect?
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:44:58pm |
re: #143 Bobblehead
Yes, that is a problem. They are also the same people who can't figure out how to mark a ballot or use a voting machine.
Well that's okay as Barack Obama as their embodies the collective will of the functionally dumb.
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:45:02pm |
re: #143 Bobblehead
Yes, that is a problem. They are also the same people who can't figure out how to mark a ballot or use a voting machine.
Somebody said it well a few days ago, "Half of the people are below average intelligence."
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ladycatnip Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:45:11pm |
#134 newsjunkie_ky
re: #129 ladycatnip
I love this ad. The more McCain uses O's own words the better. Obama is doing all the dirty work, not McCain, and the surface has only just been scratched. Also hope he includes the "57 states and one more to go" in an ad, as one would presume that presidents should at least know basic American geography and civics - Obama flunks both subjects.
I see only one problem, most of the people voting for The One have no clue how many states there are.
*laughing* You're probably right!
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reine.de.tout Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:45:12pm |
re: #144 hermeneutics
It IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE!
I just looked at it. . .
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:45:17pm |
re: #140 noshariaincanada
ok, but IMO a few well-chosen video quotes of Michelle, and Obama's toast.
Can you imagine listening to that nag for 4 years? Shutter.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:45:34pm |
Some here have been critical of the lack of policy points in recent ads. It's for a good reason, but here is one I'd like to see:
McCain gives a quick list of energy bullet points then says: "and here is Senator Obama's plan"......
cut to video of some woman kneeling in a greasy puddle next to her car reading a tire gage.
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looking closely Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:45:53pm |
re: #105 opnion
Michelle have created a treasure trove of sound bites to be exploited. The Obama campaign must be frantic. You just know that they thought that Barry's race would inoculate him.
Look for a deck of race cards to be played by them
They don't have a deck available.
After the second or third illegitimate attempt yelling "racist" becomes "the boy who cried wolf" and it has the potential to backfire badly.
Nobody likes the guy who blames all his problems on his race and Obama creates the impression that as President he's going to respond to criticism by alleging racism, its going to be over for him before you can say "false Messiah".
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hermeneutics Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:46:04pm |
re: #151 reine.de.tout
I just looked at it. . .
I was wrong. Just got it again. SOrry
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:46:13pm |
re: #139 looking closely
A thousand bucks is a thousand bucks- but for your average American family, it's not enough to cover the bills. A job search these days can last up to six months. A thousand dollars isn't going to last that long. It's a cheap ploy- a very cheap ploy, and I agree with Karagush- it's insulting and I still think it shows how out of touch he is with real people.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:46:49pm |
re: #153 The Shadow Do
Some here have been critical of the lack of policy points in recent ads. It's for a good reason, but here is one I'd like to see:
McCain gives a quick list of energy bullet points then says: "and here is Senator Obama's plan"......
cut to video of some woman kneeling in a greasy puddle next to her car reading a tire gage.
That's great- They should make that one tomorrow!
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:47:05pm |
re: #145 Abu Al-Poopypants
How many people does The One think will lose their jobs if his take money away from the oil companies and hand it around plan goes into effect?
The One doesn't think. He feels.
The One doesn't see. He receives revelations from his Marxist professors and his ultimate mentor George Soros.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:47:45pm |
re: #153 The Shadow Do
Some here have been critical of the lack of policy points in recent ads. It's for a good reason, but here is one I'd like to see:
McCain gives a quick list of energy bullet points then says: "and here is Senator Obama's plan"......
cut to video of some woman kneeling in a greasy puddle next to her car reading a tire gage.
Hopefully they're already working on that.
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:49:15pm |
re: #145 Abu Al-Poopypants
How many people does The One think will lose their jobs if his take money away from the oil companies and hand it around plan goes into effect?
You know , I am pretty sure that Barry is not much of a lawyer.
As far as I know, he never tried a case. I gotta believe that he was a slide though at Harvard Law & the Law Review thing was kind of an Affirmative Action slap on the back.
But he has lawyers in the campaign , they know that he can't do this
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:49:20pm |
re: #158 Nevergiveup
That's great- They should make that one tomorrow!
No charge, hope the campaign is listening!
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looking closely Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:49:28pm |
re: #156 Sharmuta
A thousand bucks is a thousand bucks- but for your average American family, it's not enough to cover the bills. A job search these days can last up to six months. A thousand dollars isn't going to last that long. It's a cheap ploy- a very cheap ploy, and I agree with Karagush- it's insulting and I still think it shows how out of touch he is with real people.
Nobody is saying its going to cover the bills.
But more to the point, only an uber-Socialist believes the gov't *should* be paying your bills anyway.
I don't even see this $1000 offer as a serious one, its just a transparent (but clever) attempt to create a point of discussion other than McCain's legitimately biting ad.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:49:42pm |
re: #159 The Other Les
The One doesn't think. He feels.
The One doesn't see. He receives revelations from his Marxist professors and his ultimate mentor George Soros.
And I wonder how much accumulated wealth in peoples 401k's and other funds people are gonna lose when the Oil companies go into the tank after an excess profits tax?
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kansas Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:50:03pm |
re: #104 Kosh's Shadow
Drive by post.
I think McCain will look lame with ads purely attacking Obama like this.
I'm not sure how quoting and replaying him is "attacking". Let's not accept that characterization.
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IslandLibertarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:51:08pm |
After the second or third illegitimate attempt yelling "racist" becomes "the boy who cried wolf" and it has the potential to backfire badly.
You must not use "boy".
Haven't you got the unbiased PC MEMO yet?
/whatever............
NObama!
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:51:15pm |
Had to watch it again.."Behold his mighty hand." Bwaa,haha
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:51:27pm |
If McCain isn't honorable, what the hell does Klein have to say about Obama and his race-bating tactics?
A few months ago, I wrote that John McCain was an honorable man and he would run an honorable campaign. I was wrong. I used to think, as David Ignatius does, that McCain's true voice was humble and moderate, but now I'm beginning to think his Senate colleagues may be right about his temperament.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:51:34pm |
re: #6 Lizard by the Bay
Beautiful. Just beautiful.
But will the average (non-political junkie) person get it?
Never underestimate the average joe.
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looking closely Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:51:55pm |
re: #165 Nevergiveup
And I wonder how much accumulated wealth in peoples 401k's and other funds people are gonna lose when the Oil companies go into the tank after an excess profits tax?
That's a problem.
Another one is that Obama's increased taxes on "only rich Americans" are going to cause NON-rich Americans to lose their jobs when the rich ones who create the wealth and jobs are unable to create new ones.
Higher taxes are a recipe for unemployment and economic stagnation.
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kansas Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:52:24pm |
re: #171 HelloDare
If McCain isn't honorable, what the hell does Klein have to say about Obama and his race-bating tactics?
A few months ago, I wrote that John McCain was an honorable man and he would run an honorable campaign. I was wrong. I used to think, as David Ignatius does, that McCain's true voice was humble and moderate, but now I'm beginning to think his Senate colleagues may be right about his temperament.
So, Klein admits to being wrong?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:52:37pm |
re: #171 HelloDare
If McCain isn't honorable, what the hell does Klein have to say about Obama and his race-bating tactics?
A few months ago, I wrote that John McCain was an honorable man and he would run an honorable campaign. I was wrong. I used to think, as David Ignatius does, that McCain's true voice was humble and moderate, but now I'm beginning to think his Senate colleagues may be right about his temperament.
I hope McCain is starting to learn who his real friends and enemies are.
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dgax65 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:52:38pm |
I usually hate political adds, but this one rocks. It's nice to see something different one in a while.
I'm just amazed that McCain has run these ads. After months of acting like he was afraid to even criticize BHO, this comes as a welcome change.
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DistantThunder Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:52:52pm |
Now it's time to create commercials for those Republicans holding out in Congress. They can be filmed Blair Witch style.
The Republicans really are fighting for us this time - on the front lines.
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Genosaurer Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:53:58pm |
This is SO much better than the last few political ads McCain has put out. Absolutely hits all the right points and in the perfect sarcastic tone.
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DistantThunder Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:53:59pm |
Only Republicans will deliver lower gas prices.
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noshariaincanada Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:54:00pm |
re: #152 Bobblehead
Can you imagine listening to that nag for 4 years? Shutter.
ditto
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:54:28pm |
re: #171 HelloDare
If McCain isn't honorable, what the hell does Klein have to say about Obama and his race-bating tactics?
A few months ago, I wrote that John McCain was an honorable man and he would run an honorable campaign. I was wrong. I used to think, as David Ignatius does, that McCain's true voice was humble and moderate, but now I'm beginning to think his Senate colleagues may be right about his temperament.
How dare he run an aggressive campaign! He should be a good little Republican and role over and play dead. Damn it...
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MandyManners Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:54:43pm |
Sen. McCain is letting BHO use his own rope to hang himself.
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maddogg Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:55:19pm |
This ad is nothing. I want to see the McCain folks send some people to the San Francisco street party featured below and ask these "people" who they support for President. I'll bet it ain't McCain.
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:55:43pm |
re: #176 dgax65
I usually hate political adds, but this one rocks. It's nice to see something different one in a while.
I'm just amazed that McCain has run these ads. After months of acting like he was afraid to even criticize BHO, this comes as a welcome change.
I agree with that. I thought that he would treat Obama as another one of his democrat, "Dear Friends"
No this is bare knuckle, that I would not have believed a couple of weeks a go.
Obama can not take it & the wheels are getting a little wobbly.
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:55:48pm |
I have to agree with others who have posted here... As brilliant as this ad is, he needs to push himself up, more than tear down Obama.
It would have been better to put this out instead of celeb and move on, the fact that these both came within a week smacks of -- not quite desperation, but its not good.
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newsjunkie_ky Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:55:56pm |
Hey McCain campaign;
Do not listen to those that say this is racist or below the belt or not honorable. They want you to LOSE!
Keep up the pressure. I was not going to contribute to your campaign (would pull the lever for ya, though) but after the last few ads, I've changed my mind. I see that you all may have the fire in the belly needed to defeat The One.
Keep it up, don't back down.
We love it.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:55:59pm |
re: #165 Nevergiveup
And I wonder how much accumulated wealth in peoples 401k's and other funds people are gonna lose when the Oil companies go into the tank after an excess profits tax?
I am still wondering how anyone who figures that taxing profits brings the price of an item down?
It must not have been covered in my econ classes.
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DistantThunder Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:56:07pm |
re: #181 The Shadow Do
How dare he run an aggressive campaign! He should be a good little Republican and role over and play dead. Damn it...
Obama the twerpy nerd is now over exposed, and everyone sane can see him for the metrosexual beta male that he is.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:56:19pm |
re: #165 Nevergiveup
And I wonder how much accumulated wealth in peoples 401k's and other funds people are gonna lose when the Oil companies go into the tank after an excess profits tax?
From page 17 of ECONOMICS IN ONE LESSON by Henry Hazlitt:
"From this aspect, therefore, the whole of economics can be reduced to a single lesson, and that lesson can be reduced to a single sentence. The art of economics consists in looking not merely at the immediate but at the longer effects of any act or policy; it consists in tracing the consequences of that policy not merely for one group but for all groups."
Needless to say Democrats never practice real economics.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:56:46pm |
One of my favorite war movies is on. OK I like all war movies as long as they are not made by the retreat and failure crowd in Hollywood. "A Bridge To Far".
Obama probably was always against trying to take that bridge in Arnhem?
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MandyManners Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:56:47pm |
I was talking to my hair-dresser today about the celeb. commercial. We were laughing about it and the NYT op-ed piece. I looked around and several other women and stylists were listenng, smiling and nodding.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:56:53pm |
re: #173 looking closely
That's a problem.
Another one is that Obama's increased taxes on "only rich Americans" are going to cause NON-rich Americans to lose their jobs when the rich ones who create the wealth and jobs are unable to create new ones.
Higher taxes are a recipe for unemployment and economic stagnation.
150K family of four soon to be defined as Rich
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:57:50pm |
re: #182 MandyManners
Sen. McCain is letting BHO use his own rope to hang himself.
That is so Soviet...
[evil grin]
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newsjunkie_ky Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:57:53pm |
re: #185 rlevitin
I have to agree with others who have posted here... As brilliant as this ad is, he needs to push himself up, more than tear down Obama.
It would have been better to put this out instead of celeb and move on, the fact that these both came within a week smacks of -- not quite desperation, but its not good.
How is using The One's own words tearing him down?
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maddogg Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:57:55pm |
Democrat definition of "the rich": Anybody who has a job.
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:58:11pm |
re: #188 DistantThunder
Obama the twerpy nerd is now over exposed, and everyone sane can see him for the metrosexual beta male that he is.
I could see Barry & John Kerry enjoying a chick flick festival.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:58:11pm |
re: #179 DistantThunder
Obama said during the debates that he will not make an effort to lower gas prices. That should have been the McCain ad this week.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:58:29pm |
re: #179 DistantThunder
Only Republicans will deliver lower gas prices.
That's exactly why the last ad had to be called racist.
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:58:33pm |
re: #187 Eowyn2
I am still wondering how anyone who figures that taxing profits brings the price of an item down?
It must not have been covered in my econ classes.
I just had an epiphany of the mentality behind that.
Raise taxes --> prices go up. Prices go up --> demand goes down. Demand goes down --> prices go down.
It works to harm a product or industry.
The problem is, that with something as important as Oil, the demand simply won't drop sufficiently, and people will continue to pay more.
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profitsbeard Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:58:44pm |
Follow-up ad:
[Photos of Messianic-looking Obama]
Narration:
"Barack Obama thinks pretty highly of himself.
Shouldn't he be more concerned about securing the future of the American people than with stroking his own ego?
Maybe he belongs on Oprah
... and not in the Oval Office.
VOTE McCain 2008"
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ssn697 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:58:50pm |
Another McCain ad that says NOTHING about McCain. What happened to making it on his policies? This commercial was a complete waste, and just makes him look childish.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:58:59pm |
re: #197 Killgore Trout
Obama said during the debates that he will not make an effort to lower gas prices. That should have been the McCain ad this week.
It should be the McCain ad every week!
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DistantThunder Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:59:07pm |
re: #194 newsjunkie_ky
How is using The One's own words tearing him down?
Negative ads work, and Obama makes Obama look ridiculous, like an air-head, in this latest McCain commercial.
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Tamron Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:59:37pm |
re: #18 rlevitin
OMG! THAT WAS BRILLIANT!
I'm actually in tears"and a light will come down, from... somewhere!"
THE SKIES PARTED, AND A LIGHT CAME DOWN FROM MARS......
.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 2:59:49pm |
re: #185 rlevitin
I have to agree with others who have posted here... As brilliant as this ad is, he needs to push himself up, more than tear down Obama.
It would have been better to put this out instead of celeb and move on, the fact that these both came within a week smacks of -- not quite desperation, but its not good.
No, it is good. Paint your opponent early. Policy debate later. Then it is like going to battle with overwhelming force, and that is a good thing. There is no desperation in these ads other than making the Dems desperately uncomfortable - their mistakes will surely follow. Gee I love this stuff.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:00:48pm |
re: #197 Killgore Trout
Obama said during the debates that he will not make an effort to lower gas prices. That should have been the McCain ad this week.
Follow with a shot on his flat tire bicycle. "Obama's energy plan". Fade out, roll credits.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:01:15pm |
re: #190 Nevergiveup
One of my favorite war movies is on. OK I like all war movies as long as they are not made by the retreat and failure crowd in Hollywood. "A Bridge To Far".
Obama probably was always against trying to take that bridge in Arnhem?
did you ever see
"the Great Raid"
One of the ultimate bestest most superest war movies ever made.
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harrylook Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:01:18pm |
re: #162 opnion
You know , I am pretty sure that Barry is not much of a lawyer.
As far as I know, he never tried a case. I gotta believe that he was a slide though at Harvard Law & the Law Review thing was kind of an Affirmative Action slap on the back.
But he has lawyers in the campaign , they know that he can't do this
Every law student realizes they are being taught by people who couldn't hack it as real lawyers. With rare, but obvious exceptions. The professors' resumes are on the schools' websites....
That BHO's biggest accomplishment is teaching law says a lot about him. He's not a "real world" leader.
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HelloDare Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:01:33pm |
Gallup Daily: Race Tied at 44%
This is not much different from the results reported in Gallup Poll Daily tracking on Thursday, when the two were nearly tied with 45% for Obama and 44% for McCain. However, it is a substantial turnaround from earlier this week when Obama held a statistically significant lead coming off his high-profile trip to Europe, Afghanistan, and the Middle East.
Obama and McCain were closely matched in each of the three nights of interviewing included in today's result, with neither candidate ahead by more than three percentage points. This suggests that the recent surge in voter support for Obama has truly subsided.
The contrast between Obama's recent advantage over McCain (ranging from six to nine points) and today's result is particularly notable because this is McCain's strongest showing in over a month. The last time Gallup found the race exactly tied was in late June. By contrast, in the weeks just prior to Obama's overseas trip, he had led the race by an average of four points.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:01:38pm |
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DistantThunder Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:01:44pm |
re: #199 rlevitin
I just had an epiphany of the mentality behind that.
Raise taxes --> prices go up. Prices go up --> demand goes down. Demand goes down --> prices go down.
It works to harm a product or industry.
The problem is, that with something as important as Oil, the demand simply won't drop sufficiently, and people will continue to pay more.
Not only that but petroleum is used in many modern things like plastic and asphalt. Pols are already complaining that tax revenue for roads is going down, so they will raise taxes. Maybe we could go back to those reusable surgery and medical supplies. /s
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:02:17pm |
re: #202 Sharmuta
It should be the McCain ad every week!
Killgore made a good point up-thread -- that the McCain campaign should leaven these with a lot of policy-based ads, so the attacks don't appear (or can't be called) "obsessive".
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:02:30pm |
re: #194 newsjunkie_ky
How is using The One's own words tearing him down?
Because Obama's own words have that affect on himself. It tears down his image when he appears like a pompous elitist asshole.
Like I said, I like the ad, but he needs to balance it out with pumping himself up. He should not have put out two ads within such a sort time period that are all about Obama. It just adds to the already overwhelming barrage of messaging "Obama" "Obama" "Obama". People need to hear "McCain" "McCain" "McCain".
I am anxious to see the next one.
I really hope he takes up the Oil issue.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:02:31pm |
re: #196 opnion
I could see Barry & John Kerry enjoying a chick flick festival.
Please DON'T make Obama watch Mystic Pizza again. He was a complete mess after he saw it the first time.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:02:38pm |
McCain has to directly confront the medias' deification of Obama. This will set the stage for nuts-and-bolts issues ads later.
It is obvious now that McCain is running against the media, with Obama as their tacitly acknowledged frontman and symbol.
McCain will win, and win big.
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debutaunt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:02:48pm |
re: #164 looking closely
Nobody is saying its going to cover the bills.
But more to the point, only an uber-Socialist believes the gov't *should* be paying your bills anyway.
I don't even see this $1000 offer as a serious one, its just a transparent (but clever) attempt to create a point of discussion other than McCain's legitimately biting ad.
He seems fine with stealing from the oil companies and handing out the stolem money.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:02:57pm |
re: #207 Eowyn2
did you ever see
"the Great Raid"
One of the ultimate bestest most superest war movies ever made.
Yes, but always bit and pieces. I have catch it in it's entirety one of theses days.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:03:10pm |
re: #207 Eowyn2
did you ever see
"the Great Raid"
One of the ultimate bestest most superest war movies ever made.
Don't forget Saving Private Zion.
/
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:03:31pm |
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:03:47pm |
I say, keep em coming.Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, Father Phlager, Michelle, Railla Odinga. Racist quotes from his two books,
His Acorn association, his lack of accomplishment.
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debutaunt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:04:05pm |
re: #165 Nevergiveup
And I wonder how much accumulated wealth in peoples 401k's and other funds people are gonna lose when the Oil companies go into the tank after an excess profits tax?
I sincerely wonder if Obama knows how the system works.
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Josephine Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:04:30pm |
re: #9 Occasional Reader
It's hard to win an election by simply running as "I'm not the other guy".
I don't know. Obama is running as "I'm not the white guy".
/
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:05:02pm |
re: #222 debutaunt
I sincerely wonder if Obama knows how the system works.
He's a superior being. He doesn't have to know.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:05:13pm |
re: #219 Occasional Reader
Don't forget Saving Private Zion.
/
It's good movie, but since Hanks came out for Obama, I must admit I have trouble watching any of his movies. But thats just me.
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chukardog Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:05:39pm |
Just sent the Mccainmiester $50. Keep it up and I'll send more
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:05:44pm |
re: #224 Josephine
I don't know. Obama is running as "I'm not the white guy".
/
Too true! Never thought of it like that.
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:05:49pm |
re: #208 harrylook
Every law student realizes they are being taught by people who couldn't hack it as real lawyers. With rare, but obvious exceptions. The professors' resumes are on the schools' websites....
That BHO's biggest accomplishment is teaching law says a lot about him. He's not a "real world" leader.
Oh, are you correct. Law proffesors as a group would not make it as trial lawyers. I don't think that Obama was actually a full professor.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:05:50pm |
re: #195 maddogg
Democrat definition of "the rich": Anybody who has a job.
and if you have two jobs you're just greedy
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:05:55pm |
I was just thinking about how much the late, great Charlton Heston would have loved this.
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USBeast Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:06:13pm |
"We are the ones we've been waiting for."
What? I haven't been waiting for me. I've been here all along.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:06:21pm |
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Caliphornian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:06:22pm |
re: #95 The Other Les
Update 6 - Rep Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) just pretended to be a Democrat. He stood on the other side of the chaber and listed all of the GOP bills that the Dems killed.
He then said "I am a Democrat and here is my energy plan" and he held up a picture of an old VW Bug with a sail attached to it. He paraded around he house floor with the sign while the crowd cheered.
Today, for the first time, I'm PROUD of my congressman! I live in Nunes' district.
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Catttt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:06:27pm |
I love this vid - and the "not amused" dead-serious angry comments from lefties are almost as funny.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:06:49pm |
re: #182 MandyManners
Sen. McCain is letting BHO use his own rope to hang himself.
Really very clever. Paint your opponent using a brush of his own making. Good initial effort. Get the public used to thinking of Obama as a self important idiot, then move in for the kill.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:06:53pm |
re: #222 debutaunt
I sincerely wonder if Obama knows how the system works.
Not a chance. "Big Oil is making big profits, and we have to take those away and redistribute them." That's as far as his thinking goes.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:07:17pm |
re: #206 Occasional Reader
Follow with a shot on his flat tire bicycle. "Obama's energy plan". Fade out, roll credits.
think of how much fuel he could save if he just inflated that bike tire.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:07:41pm |
re: #238 Occasional Reader
Not a chance. "Big Oil is making big profits, and we have to take those away and redistribute them." That's as far as his thinking goes.
If Marx or Lenin didn't say it, Obama don't know it!
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:08:31pm |
Has anyone else looked into fact-checking that Rafah, GA Obama donation?
I really think that has potential to do a lot of damage.
For those who weren't around earlier, in the official list of donors to the Obama campaign, there are two major donations (over $20000) listed as coming from people living in Rafah, GA... you are to assume thats Rafah, Georgia, but no such place exists. Meaning that it is ACTUALLY Rafah, Gaza!
Maybe, Possibly... I want more fact checking and I don't know how to do stuff like that.
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:09:18pm |
re: #235 Caliphornian
Today, for the first time, I'm PROUD of my congressman! I live in Nunes' district.
This kind of showmanship actually sounds like a parody of the Dems' media-culture tactics and appeals.
The GOP has heeded our own modest prophet, who has declared for years that "the media are the enemy."
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:09:20pm |
re: #232 Shiplord Kirel
I was just thinking about how much the late, great Charlton Heston would have loved this.
Indeed!
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sonofsheldon Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:09:22pm |
Kind of reminds me of Ahmadinijad and his claim that nobody blinked during his UN speech. And wasn't there some sort of heavenly light? Well, demagogues of a feather . . .
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opnion Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:09:34pm |
re: #240 Nevergiveup
If Marx or Lenin didn't say it, Obama don't know it!
When he gave his speech on Super Tuesday, he stopped just short of saying, "Vanguard of the Proletariat."
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:09:41pm |
re: #241 rlevitin
Has anyone else looked into fact-checking that Rafah, GA Obama donation?
I really think that has potential to do a lot of damage.
For those who weren't around earlier, in the official list of donors to the Obama campaign, there are two major donations (over $20000) listed as coming from people living in Rafah, GA... you are to assume thats Rafah, Georgia, but no such place exists. Meaning that it is ACTUALLY Rafah, Gaza!
Maybe, Possibly... I want more fact checking and I don't know how to do stuff like that.
They will just say it was a mistake and give it back. And other than those of us here or that watch FOX, nobody will know.
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:10:44pm |
re: #246 Nevergiveup
They will just say it was a mistake and give it back. And other than those of us here or that watch FOX, nobody will know.
Was it picked up on Fox News?
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harrylook Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:11:18pm |
Does the One not realize how arrogant he sounds? Upon seeing this, will he be able to suppress his ego and avoid such ridiculous comments in the future?
I think the answer is NO!
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:11:31pm |
re: #247 rlevitin
Was it picked up on Fox News?
I have not seen it yet -no. But we are always ahead of FOX anyway.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:11:42pm |
Next commercial needs to have a montage of the O man's uh, uh, moments
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perdiem Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:12:08pm |
About time. Watch the poll numbers. I am willing to bet Obama's numbers slide. With the latest daily poll yesterday at
O's one point advantage, its now even. Tomorrow: Bye Bye Obama.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:12:23pm |
re: #235 Caliphornian
Today, for the first time, I'm PROUD of my congressman! I live in Nunes' district.
The thought just occurred to me. What ever happened to that old Oldmobile that someone converted to Flintstone style pedal power?
Wouldn't that make a neat prop for a campaign ad?
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:12:40pm |
re: #251 perdiem
About time. Watch the poll numbers. I am willing to bet Obama's numbers slide. With the latest daily poll yesterday at
O's one point advantage, its now even. Tomorrow: Bye Bye Obama.
Obamagovern coming up!
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:13:01pm |
re: #248 harrylook
Does the One not realize how arrogant he sounds? Upon seeing this, will he be able to suppress his ego and avoid such ridiculous comments in the future?
I think the answer is NO!
He'll pout like a petulant child and play right in to McCain's hands
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Josephine Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:13:17pm |
re: #37 karmic_inquisitor
Here is the Obama camp response
The thing that drives me nuts is that some people view the government the same way children view Santa Claus: neither realizes where the money is coming from: either Mommy and Daddy's wallets or their own.
These people who are in support of "the government" giving money away: ask them if they are willing for their taxes to go up to pay for this type of scheme.
Arrrrgh.
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Catttt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:13:23pm |
re: #250 Bobblehead
Next commercial needs to have a montage of the O man's uh, uh, moments
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:13:27pm |
re: #236 Catttt
I love this vid - and the "not amused" dead-serious angry comments from lefties are almost as funny.
We don't have to make up jokes about leftists, all we have to do is accurately describe their actions.
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paradox42 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:13:37pm |
If only we could figure out how to harness Obama's hot air for energy generation, the entire country could enjoy free electricity forever.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:13:39pm |
re: #241 rlevitin
Pamela from Atlas, Debbie Schlussel and Free Republic have been making some noise about that but unfortunately none of them are very good sources of information. My first impression is that there's probably nothing to the story.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:14:07pm |
re: #212 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Yes- and I agreed with that upthread and dinged him too.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:15:18pm |
re: #260 Eowyn2
Where do you hear Jerry Doyle?
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:15:50pm |
re: #218 Nevergiveup
Yes, but always bit and pieces. I have catch it in it's entirety one of theses days.
From beginning to end.
Talk about a "Yes We Can" attitude.
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:16:23pm |
Man. That is one terrible advertisement.
Nothing ruins satire like an on-the-nose bludgeoning, and nothing ruins a political ad like quotes clearly taken out of context.
Good job, McCain marketing team. Why don't you just vote Obama, next? That's the only further effort remaining.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:17:20pm |
re: #262 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Where do you hear Jerry Doyle?
on the radio
Where do you hear him?
I'm slightly obsessed with him.
between 4 and 5 pm MST.
1450 on the dial
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:17:37pm |
Ha. Had a look at the other comments... Apparently I'm in a minority.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:18:26pm |
re: #267 Cognito
Ha. Had a look at the other comments... Apparently I'm in a minority.
Well you must be used to that.
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:19:11pm |
re: #268 Nevergiveup
Well you must be used to that.
Pretty much.
Makes for interesting conversation, though.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:19:15pm |
re: #261 Sharmuta
Yes- and I agreed with that upthread and dinged him too.
Didn't know if you'd seen it.
/besides, it's good that Killgore's getting more dingy by the moment
*grin*
couldn't resist
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MandyManners Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:19:21pm |
re: #248 harrylook
Does the One not realize how arrogant he sounds? Upon seeing this, will he be able to suppress his ego and avoid such ridiculous comments in the future?
I think the answer is NO!
There's enough fodder for Sen. McCain to use from now until November.
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Catttt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:19:35pm |
re: #267 Cognito
Ha. Had a look at the other comments... Apparently I'm in a minority.
Shocka. :D
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:19:43pm |
re: #265 Cognito
Man. That is one terrible advertisement.
Nothing ruins satire like an on-the-nose bludgeoning, and nothing ruins a political ad like quotes clearly taken out of context.
Good job, McCain marketing team. Why don't you just vote Obama, next? That's the only further effort remaining.
I will read your reaction as a sort of litmus test. The ad was successful.
I know that you know that this is as much a knock on the media, maybe more so, than a knock on Obama.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:19:51pm |
re: #266 Eowyn2
I almost added, "And don't say, 'On the radio.'"
He used to be on Sirius. Loved him. Miss him and Tammy Bruce. Went to his site...on a couple insignificant (not to them I am sure) radio stations in Virginia...but that's all.
Sigh.
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Sharmuta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:20:09pm |
re: #270 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I like to think I give good dings.
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MandyManners Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:20:16pm |
re: #259 Killgore Trout
Pamela from Atlas, Debbie Schlussel and Free Republic have been making some noise about that but unfortunately none of them are very good sources of information. My first impression is that there's probably nothing to the story.
Well, who woulda' thought that the National Enquirer would be the one to come up with the goods on Edwards?
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:20:33pm |
re: #273 The Shadow Do
I will read your reaction as a sort of litmus test. The ad was successful.
How so, exactly? I'm a McCain supporter.
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ladycatnip Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:20:54pm |
#201 ssn697
Another McCain ad that says NOTHING about McCain. What happened to making it on his policies? This commercial was a complete waste, and just makes him look childish.
Be patient, grasshopper. The only one looking childish is Obama, who believes he's the 21st-century messiah. Now that's childish.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:21:04pm |
re: #275 Sharmuta
I like to think I give good dings.
That's the thread downstairs.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:21:35pm |
re: #275 Sharmuta
I like to think I give good dings.
/NOT TOUCHING THAT WITH A 10-FOOT POLE!
(and no puns in reply, please ... *grin*)
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Barry the Baptist Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:21:42pm |
McCain should have used the Mel Brooks 'Moses' character in the History of the World Part I.....Still pretty damned funny.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:22:09pm |
re: #267 Cognito
Ha. Had a look at the other comments... Apparently I'm in a minority.
sounds like a racist comment to me.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:22:12pm |
re: #280 Sharmuta
Sorry- ain't going there.
Don't blame you. After the third "Ewwww", I bailed.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:22:31pm |
re: #271 MandyManners
There's enough fodder for Sen. McCain to use from now until November.
And it keeps on coming because The One can't keep his mouth shut. His oversized ego won't let him.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:22:31pm |
re: #282 Barry the Baptist
McCain should have used the Mel Brooks 'Moses' character in the History of the World Part I.....Still pretty damned funny.
Ever wonder what the other 5 commandments would have been?
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Killian Bundy Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:22:48pm |
The living heroic legend that is Barack Obama has already broken the pop-culture record of Baghdad Bob and is now approaching that of Chuck Norris and Vladimir Putin. When even Obama's official campaign is forced to launch a fact-checking website to keep his runaway aura under control, you just know that Obama's public persona has developed a life of its own and is resisting efforts to catch it and put it on Ritalin. We thought that the best way to take control of the situation would be by using Obama's own patented method of hopeful approach to reality. So we built a radically different website: it looks like Obama's fact-checking site, only instead of chasing cowardly facts and arguing old truths that are tarnished and tedious, we invent new,sparkling-clean truths that are exciting and heroic. The beauty of this approach is that when new truths become old and tarnished, they can be easily thrown under the bus and replaced with newer and better heroic truths, ensuring Obama's glorious march towards a higher metaphysical plane of unstoppable service to humankind.
/pretend you're Paul Revere with an e-mail account, spread the Word!
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Libs are Mental Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:23:01pm |
re: #190 Nevergiveup
One of my favorite war movies is on. OK I like all war movies as long as they are not made by the retreat and failure crowd in Hollywood. "A Bridge To Far".
Obama probably was always against trying to take that bridge in Arnhem?
If you haven't yet buy borrow or rent the HBO Band of Brothers Series. Brought me to tears on many an occasion.
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M. Bensson-Levi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:23:17pm |
re: #201 ssn697
Another McCain ad that says NOTHING about McCain. What happened to making it on his policies? This commercial was a complete waste, and just makes him look childish.
BING! Bullsh*t Alarm goes off! YOU, are a SHITFERBRAINS. And a TROLL.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:23:29pm |
re: #282 Barry the Baptist
McCain should have used the Mel Brooks 'Moses' character in the History of the World Part I.....Still pretty damned funny.
NRA-past president Heston was, perhaps, more fitting at multiple levels -- satire
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Barry the Baptist Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:23:40pm |
re: #286 Nevergiveup
Haha- I have these 15 (crash)-, uh, TEN, TEN, Commandments.......
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NY Nana Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:23:47pm |
OT, but here goes:
What Obama Really wrote in His Western Wall Note
by Jake Novak (in the Jewish Week...not available online.)
10) 'I'll write a million of these if it gets me the vote in Florida!'9) 'L-rd save me! The drivers here are crazy!'
8) 'Go, Bears!'
7) 'Haven't these people ever heard of sheet rock?'
6) 'Obama + Michelle: 2gthr 4evr!'
5) 'I'm really only here to get away from Jeremiah Wright and Jesse Jackson.'
4) 'What's with the olives for breakfast?'
3) 'Go ahead and bomb Ahmadinejad...just not while I'm meeting with him.'
2) 'I can't believe I conned the Birthright Israel people into this free trip!'
1) 'I haven't seen this many Jews silently praying I took the bar exam.'
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:24:36pm |
re: #288 Libs are Mental
If you haven't yet buy borrow or rent the HBO Band of Brothers Series. Brought me to tears on many an occasion.
I have it and also saw it on it's first run on HBO--but that was tough since 9/11 came right in the middle of it!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:25:03pm |
re: #286 Nevergiveup
Ever wonder what the other 5 commandments would have been?
11. Thou shalt not vote for Obama.
12. Thou shalt not make fun of fat people.
13. Thou shalt watch Mel Brooks, and thou shalt laugh
14. Thou shalt treat each other with respect and love.
15. Thou shalt smite terrorists.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:25:22pm |
re: #276 MandyManners
Hmmmmm, as I'm looking at it a bit more they might be on to something. I'm sure Boss is already aware and looking into it. That is a lot of money to come from a nonexistent town from a man with a middle eastern name.
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lori lane Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:25:27pm |
re: #153 The Shadow Do
cut to video of some woman kneeling in a greasy puddle next to her car reading a tire gage.
Oh that would be priceless. Send the campaign that idea!
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:26:12pm |
re: #292 NY Nana
That's great. Dinged ya up for that one.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:26:18pm |
re: #277 Cognito
How so, exactly? I'm a McCain supporter.
And I am pleased that you are. The question I raised is are you more offended be the effectiveness of the ad as political message, or by its obvious knock on the media pandering.
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Josephine Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:27:12pm |
This ad will resonate for many Christians.
We've been warned against false Messiahs.
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Barry the Baptist Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:27:54pm |
re: #294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think that Thou shall drill for oil should be in there somewhere.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:28:09pm |
re: #294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
11. Thou shalt not vote for Obama.
12. Thou shalt not make fun of fat people.
13. Thou shalt watch Mel Brooks, and thou shalt laugh
14. Thou shalt treat each other with respect and love.
15. Thou shalt smite terrorists.
I'm not sure how many fat people there were back then. I mean all those years walking around in the desert and all?
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:28:24pm |
re: #282 Barry the Baptist
McCain should have used the Mel Brooks 'Moses' character in the History of the World Part I.....Still pretty damned funny.
re: #296 lori lane
Oh that would be priceless. Send the campaign that idea!
Picture this..instead of showing lines of cars waiting to fill up, show people lined up at air pumps waiting to adjust the pressure in their tires.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:29:04pm |
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:29:12pm |
re: #300 Barry the Baptist
I think that Thou shall drill for oil should be in there somewhere.
That would be:
Thou shall make a right next time!
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Barry the Baptist Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:29:16pm |
re: #302 Bobblehead
Haha- well perhaps that can be part of the missing commandments:
Thou shall keep your tires inflated
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:29:36pm |
re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I almost added, "And don't say, 'On the radio.'"
He used to be on Sirius. Loved him. Miss him and Tammy Bruce. Went to his site...on a couple insignificant (not to them I am sure) radio stations in Virginia...but that's all.
Sigh.
We only get him for one hour but I like his independence. We only get Tammy Bruce when she is subbing for Laura Ingraham and that is early AM. I wish we had a regular show of hers.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:29:59pm |
re: #298 The Shadow Do
And I am pleased that you are. The question I raised is are you more offended be the effectiveness of the ad as political message, or by its obvious knock on the media pandering.
The thing is, the media isn't (aren't?) running for President.
I can see a LIMITED role for this sort of thing (and I think it could be better done), but if McCain tries to run on only these sorts of ads, he'll lose. And then, we all lose.
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:10pm |
re: #298 The Shadow Do
And I am pleased that you are. The question I raised is are you more offended be the effectiveness of the ad as political message, or by its obvious knock on the media pandering.
I couldn't care less about the media part. The media -- we're using an increasingly meaningless term here -- deserve to take it on the chin for the fawning we've seen.
This ad isn't a smart needling. It's the dull, half-aimed swing of a state-fair turkey leg.
Not lightning. Just light.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:14pm |
re: #286 Nevergiveup
Ever wonder what the other 5 commandments would have been?
'
yeah.
these 15...10 commandments.
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Iron Fist Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:17pm |
Now that was a commercial! That is one way that McCain can go on the offense without risking fracturing any significant portion of his coalition. Obama's Cult of Personality is ripe for mockery.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:17pm |
re: #307 Eowyn2
Tammy has a great show. Is a great mind. And a hottie Lesbian!
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runrabbitrun Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:25pm |
Terrific ad!
I just wish that the production had shown Obamessiah's legislative accomplishments displayed on Stones from The Mount - screen shot could've had them engraved on a pebble.
(actually, I can't wait for the McCain campaign to start getting serious about defining who this schnook really IS.)
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Josephine Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:36pm |
re: #156 Sharmuta
A thousand bucks is a thousand bucks- but for your average American family, it's not enough to cover the bills. A job search these days can last up to six months. A thousand dollars isn't going to last that long. It's a cheap ploy- a very cheap ploy, and I agree with Karagush- it's insulting and I still think it shows how out of touch he is with real people.
Yeah, really, have you seen the price of arugula lately?
/
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Killgore Trout Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:38pm |
re: #276 MandyManners
Edwan, Monir, He lists his profession as accountant. If he is in Gaza there's a high probability the money is coming directly from Hamas.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:43pm |
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mossley Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:55pm |
I think someone in McCain's camp read that great article from the British press that Charles posted earlier.
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:30:56pm |
re: #265 Cognito
Man. That is one terrible advertisement.
Nothing ruins satire like an on-the-nose bludgeoning, and nothing ruins a political ad like quotes clearly taken out of context.
Good job, McCain marketing team. Why don't you just vote Obama, next? That's the only further effort remaining.
I must admit, I was very disappointed to read a couple of minutes ago that my favorite quote from the ad is out of context.
The whole "A Light will come down, from somewhere" clip is supposedly in response to a question or comment about conservatives making fun of him as "the one".
and that makes sense given what he says.
=(
It was still a heck of a laugh though, and I'm sure it is going to be an effective one.
There is just so much other stuff to use against Obama, why did they have to pull one out of context?
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:31:08pm |
Democratic aides were furious at the GOP stunt, and reporters were kicked out of the Speaker's Lobby, the space next to the House floor where they normally interview lawmakers.
"You're not covering this, are you?" complained one senior Democratic aide. Another called the Republicans "morons" for staying on the floor.
Update: The Capitol Police are now trying to kick reporters out of the press gallery above the floor, meaning we can't watch the Republicans anymore. But Minority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) is now in the gallery talking to reporters, so the cops have held off for a minute. Clearly, Democrats don't want Republicans getting any press for this episode. GOP leaders are trying to find other Republicans to rotate in for Blunt so reporters aren't kicked out.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:32:00pm |
To put it another way: McCain's ads won't get him far if they just try to be "The Onion".
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:32:05pm |
re: #282 Barry the Baptist
McCain should have used the Mel Brooks 'Moses' character in the History of the World Part I.....Still pretty damned funny.
It would be but there may have been permission issues with that.
And Brooks may be an Obama supporter.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:32:05pm |
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:32:08pm |
re: #318 rlevitin
I must admit, I was very disappointed to read a couple of minutes ago that my favorite quote from the ad is out of context.
The whole "A Light will come down, from somewhere" clip is supposedly in response to a question or comment about conservatives making fun of him as "the one".
and that makes sense given what he says.
=(
It was still a heck of a laugh though, and I'm sure it is going to be an effective one.
There is just so much other stuff to use against Obama, why did they have to pull one out of context?
It ain't just one.
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Pvt Bin Jammin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:32:51pm |
Absolutely hilarious. I do hope that his campaign follows up with some serious ads, however.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:33:06pm |
re: #286 Nevergiveup
Ever wonder what the other 5 commandments would have been?
I still want to know.
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Bobblehead Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:33:20pm |
re: #313 runrabbitrun
Terrific ad!
I just wish that the production had shown Obamessiah's legislative accomplishments displayed on Stones from The Mount - screen shot could've had them engraved on a pebble.
(actually, I can't wait for the McCain campaign to start getting serious about defining who this schnook really IS.)
They will. The public is not totally focused yet.
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M. Bensson-Levi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:33:52pm |
re: #265 Cognito
I have diligently ignored you for years, and scrolled over anything that you've posted. To me you are a complete non entity, but I must take this occasion to say that you are also a complete, and utter asshole.
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:34:49pm |
re: #328 M. Bensson-Levi
All right, M. Thanks for taking time to respond.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:34:51pm |
re: #324 Cognito
It ain't just one.
What were the others?
As far as I've seen, his "oceans stop rising" line was dead serious. So was "we are the ones we've been waiting for".
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:35:44pm |
re: #309 Cognito
I couldn't care less about the media part. The media -- we're using an increasingly meaningless term here -- deserve to take it on the chin for the fawning we've seen.
This ad isn't a smart needling. It's the dull, half-aimed swing of a state-fair turkey leg.
Not lightning. Just light.
Love the imagery Cog! Still, I liked it (the ad). This campaign has lacked spirit up to now and this shows a willingness to mix it up. Good. McCain was getting pegged as just a nice old guy past his prime. Can't be permitted. I have no doubt that more substantive efforts will come, but for now, given we are still in the off season, this knocks a bit of polish off the turd that is the Obama campaign - sorry my metaphor doesn't measure up.
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:35:57pm |
re: #328 M. Bensson-Levi
I have diligently ignored you for years, and scrolled over anything that you've posted. To me you are a complete non entity, but I must take this occasion to say that you are also a complete, and utter asshole.
Some of what he posts is annoying bullcrap. He is very skilled at being contrary.
But he does make some good points. I've noticed Lizards (and myself) can get carried away by some things, and its usually Cogs that gets me (atleast) to snap out of it.
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:36:30pm |
re: #330 Occasional Reader
What were the others?
As far as I've seen, his "oceans stop rising" line was dead serious. So was "we are the ones we've been waiting for".
Yes, those are correctly skewered. But the 'light from above' is clearly a punchline removed from its joke. And the 'symbol of America' line is yanked out of an entirely different context.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:36:44pm |
Obama's 'emergency' economic plan
Friday’s proposal says Obama “is proposing to offset the cost of his emergency energy rebates over the next five years by enacting a windfall profits tax on big oil companies.”
“Obama simply asks that big oil companies contribute a reasonable share of the windfall profits they receive from high oil prices over the next five years to pay for emergency assistance for families right now,” the campaign says
Since when is a 9% corporate profit a windfall? He's not even trying to hide it anymore, he's a [expletive deleted] hard core, stone cold socialist!
Vote Obama!
/because Lenin is dead
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:37:00pm |
re: #330 Occasional Reader
What were the others?
As far as I've seen, his "oceans stop rising" line was dead serious. So was "we are the ones we've been waiting for".
The-- "we are the ones we've been waiting for".-- I think that takes the cake. And I believe he used that or a form of it in Berlin also.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:37:56pm |
re: #334 Cognito
Yes, those are correctly skewered. But the 'light from above' is clearly a punchline removed from its joke. And the 'symbol of America' line is yanked out of an entirely different context.
What was the different context?
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Iron Fist Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:38:11pm |
re: #321 Occasional Reader
I see this aimed more at the base. Remind them of what they are voting against. McCain needs to shore up his base something fierce. It'll take more than one commercial, but this does remind us of Obama's basic insufferability.
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:38:36pm |
re: #332 The Shadow Do
Love the imagery Cog! Still, I liked it (the ad). This campaign has lacked spirit up to now and this shows a willingness to mix it up. Good. McCain was getting pegged as just a nice old guy past his prime. Can't be permitted. I have no doubt that more substantive efforts will come, but for now, given we are still in the off season, this knocks a bit of polish off the turd that is the Obama campaign - sorry my metaphor doesn't measure up.
I agree with all that -- I think McCain had better bring on the humor, and bring on the fight. In one package. But I think he, or more likely his marketing team, missed the target with this one.
There's so, so much about Obama that deserves distain. Why hand him a moral victory like this, with misquotes and missed jokes?
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loflyer Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:38:44pm |
Evening guys! This one gets my vote as best campaign add this cycle. I loved what some of the Republicans did at the adjournment of this congressional session. Finally showing a little back-bone to the Pelosi "machine"!
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:39:13pm |
re: #338 Iron Fist
I see this aimed more at the base. Remind them of what they are voting against. McCain needs to shore up his base something fierce. It'll take more than one commercial, but this does remind us of Obama's basic insufferability.
Interesting point.
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:39:50pm |
re: #335 Killian Bundy
Obama's 'emergency' economic plan
“Obama simply asks that big oil companies contribute a reasonable share of the windfall profits they receive from high oil prices over the next five years to pay for emergency assistance for families right now,” the campaign saysSince when is a 9% corporate profit a windfall? He's not even trying to hide it anymore, he's a [expletive deleted] hard core, stone cold socialist!
Vote Obama!
/because Lenin is dead
I don't think I have ever heard the definition of "Windfall Profits"...
Is it just profit you don't like?
and the stuff I bolded in the article quote.... damn thats a sneaky S.O.B
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Catttt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:39:50pm |
re: #334 Cognito
Yes, those are correctly skewered. But the 'light from above' is clearly a punchline removed from its joke. And the 'symbol of America' line is yanked out of an entirely different context.
As far as I'm concerned, it's all Freudian slippage. If Barry hadn't created the atmosphere of "our savior, Barry," then there would be no Saint Barry to make fun of.
Micro-picking the thing apart is pointless - the commercial has broad appeal, and everyone - and I do mean everyone - will get it.
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:39:54pm |
re: #337 Occasional Reader
What was the different context?
It's here, from a discussion a day or two ago.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:40:17pm |
Fiery Red XIII just posted this on Glock Talk:
Word is from MN congress M. Bachman (R), that Pelosi ordered the cameras/press out and the police in. Just heard her on local talk radio.
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Catttt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:40:56pm |
re: #335 Killian Bundy
Obama's 'emergency' economic plan
Since when is a 9% corporate profit a windfall? He's not even trying to hide it anymore, he's a [expletive deleted] hard core, stone cold socialist!
Vote Obama!
/because Lenin is dead
Barry wants to f**k with my portfolio. This makes Catttt's claws itchy.
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godfrey Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:41:04pm |
Das Fuhrer sagte:
Ein Licht kommt unten, von irgendwo!
(listeners fervently desperate to believe)
Wir sind die, die wir gewartet haben!
(roars, deafening applause)
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:41:20pm |
re: #343 Catttt
As far as I'm concerned, it's all Freudian slippage. If Barry hadn't created the atmosphere of "our savior, Barry," then there would be no Saint Barry to make fun of.
Micro-picking the thing apart is pointless - the commercial has broad appeal, and everyone - and I do mean everyone - will get it.
I prefer "true and accurate" to... well, you know.
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The Shadow Do Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:41:42pm |
re: #339 Cognito
I agree with all that -- I think McCain had better bring on the humor, and bring on the fight. In one package. But I think he, or more likely his marketing team, missed the target with this one.
There's so, so much about Obama that deserves distain. Why hand him a moral victory like this, with misquotes and missed jokes?
It may be disingenuous, but it is effective I think, for now. Joe voter is gathering general impressions right now and not really paying attention to detail. The meat of the matter (turkey leg?) will follow.
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rlevitin Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:41:45pm |
re: #338 Iron Fist
I see this aimed more at the base. Remind them of what they are voting against. McCain needs to shore up his base something fierce. It'll take more than one commercial, but this does remind us of Obama's basic insufferability.
Could be... puts the ad in a whole different light.
Chalk one up for those insisting on not calling it an attack ad.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:41:47pm |
re: #344 Cognito
It's here, from a discussion a day or two ago.
Um... how is that "taking out of context"? It sounds every bit as pretentious and fat-headed as it's made out to be.
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loflyer Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:42:05pm |
re: #341 Occasional Reader
Interesting point.
The Obama "Berlin Bounce" did not materialize. The polls show his popularity slowly sinking.
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Cognito Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:42:07pm |
re: #348 buzzsawmonkey
Not that two wrongs make a right, but Obama-wan-Kenobi has been making capital for weeks with that "100 years in Iraq" line, which was totally distorted and taken out of context.
If McCain gets a little of his own back with this, I for one do not care.
I did, frankly, think that the self-mockery which Obama displayed in the "light will come down" quote was somewhat attractive--but put in context with his other bits of Messianic self-image, it looks much less so, as it should. One of the best ways of lying is to tell the unvarnished truth in an unexpected tone, and Obama's "self-mockery" is, I think, an example of that--of him displaying his Messianic self-image in a tone where he knows he can get away with it.
Yes, excellent points.
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The Other Les Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:42:09pm |
UPDATE 7: It's over.
Right at the stroke of five Georgia Rep. Tom Price announced that House Republicans were ending their impromptu protest on the floor of the chamber, ending a five-plus hour rebellion with a round of "God Bless America."
The assembled tourists, aides and members in the chamber gave Price and his compatriots a standing ovation. They left the chamber to shouts of "USA! USA! USA!"
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Catttt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:42:15pm |
re: #345 The Other Les
Fiery Red XIII just posted this on Glock Talk:
Word is from MN congress M. Bachman (R), that Pelosi ordered the cameras/press out and the police in. Just heard her on local talk radio.
Good heavens. Sounds like a coup. I know - I know - it's not. But what if a Republican did it? The papers would be screaming.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:42:29pm |
re: #345 The Other Les
Fiery Red XIII just posted this on Glock Talk:
Word is from MN congress M. Bachman (R), that Pelosi ordered the cameras/press out and the police in. Just heard her on local talk radio.
This could get very, very weird.
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saberry0530 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:42:29pm |
re: #346 Catttt
Barry wants to
f**ktake my portfolio. This makes Catttt's claws itchy.
that's more like the truth if the one comes to pass
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vagabond trader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:42:39pm |
All the demonrats scurrying off to their 5 week holidays flipping working Americans the bird. How on earth do these bums get elected.
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Barry the Baptist Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:43:17pm |
re: #345 The Other Les
Yes, that's right. Pelosi's thinks she's on a roll.....
'Stalinist! Stalinist!'
'Communism has only killed 100 million people.
Let's give it another chance!' /sarc
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Catttt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:43:22pm |
re: #349 Cognito
I prefer "true and accurate" to... well, you know.
Yes, but you aren't going to vote more than once. Mr. and Ms. America will go "hey, this Barry dude is annoying and stuck up!"
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Nevergiveup Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:43:40pm |
re: #354 loflyer
The Obama "Berlin Bounce" did not materialize. The polls show his popularity slowly sinking.
200,000 germans drooling over a cult of personality! What could go wrong?
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Occasional Reader Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:43:58pm |
re: #348 buzzsawmonkey
Taranto had a great Obama quote a day or two ago... to the effect that, "I'm so wonderful that I can poke holes in the myth of my wonderfulness, and it just seems completely natural to me to do so." It was quite remarkable.
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snowcrash Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:44:50pm |
This week belongs to McCain. No Euro tour bounce for Obama and a 1-2 punch with the ads. 1st ad hit on Obamas vapid celebrity status and second ad shows he believes his own press. Lovely. Next week McCain has to go back to the issues though. Can't let the Obama campaign pigeonhole him as cranky. McCain campaign will get lots of free air coverage on the weekend news pundit shows with this ad!
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Wilderstad Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:47:05pm |
I like the ad. Hits Obama squarely in his hubris. Still, I can't help but wish that the "Building a Religion" Youtube video by CakeSecret made it to the main stream.
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loflyer Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:48:20pm |
re: #364 Nevergiveup
200,000 germans drooling over a cult of personality! What could go wrong?
Right! Just the fact that 200,000 Euro's showed up for Obama made most Americans wonder "if the Euro's all love Obama so much, and hate America, what is Obama's appeal to Euro's. European interests are generally at odds with American interests"......
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Clutch Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:49:28pm |
re: #44 Blastforth
"Behold His mighty hand!" I think Charlton Heston would have apporved, God rest his sole.
Oh no, what happened to his shoe?!? ;-)
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HDrepub Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:51:44pm |
re: #259 Killgore Trout
Pamela from Atlas, Debbie Schlussel and Free Republic have been making some noise about that but unfortunately none of them are very good sources of information. My first impression is that there's probably nothing to the story.
Opensecrets.org lists this Edwan, Monir as contributing to Obama and being in Rafah, GA. This site lists no data for Rafah, in GA or anywhere else. Neither does the this one..
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Barry the Baptist Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:52:45pm |
'200,000 germans drooling over a cult of personality! What could go wrong?'
The MSM never reported the 2 free concerts and the free brauts/beer before that clown spoke. If the media , uh the Europeans promote something/someone probably best to steer clear.
Other litmus test for BHO: Ask yourself who OBL (H Chavez, K Jong-Il, Hamas, etc) would vote for.....and VOTE FOR THE OTHER GUY!
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skree Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:53:33pm |
re: #80 141Driver
Put this ad on TV, it is very good.
Plus, "It’s downright sad that on a day when we learned that 51,000 Americans lost their jobs, the Democrats deserted their Congressional duties, as well as the the American people, to take a vacation!"
Brilliant
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:54:55pm |
re: #9 Occasional Reader
McCain needs to start hammering Obama on his empty ideas, and highlighting his own. It's hard to win an election by simply running as "I'm not the other guy".
It worked for McCain in the primaries.
Heck, it worked for OBAMA in the primaries, cuz he wasn't the Hildabeast.
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runrabbitrun Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:58:15pm |
re: #374 itellu3times
It worked for McCain in the primaries.
Heck, it worked for OBAMA in the primaries, cuz he wasn't the Hildabeast.
It might have only worked because Huckabee was working as a spoiler (knowing he could not win) drawing votes away from Romney, and because there might have been a Dem primary crossover-vote push to give McCain to Repubs, hoping to split the base.
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Fredlike Fri, Aug 1, 2008 3:58:56pm |
If you look at the report on the Morin Adwan donation it list the location as Canada Camp City, Rafah. This is definitely GAZA
see Donation form
The list at donordata.org has a bunch of names that could be slight misspellings of the same name, going way over the $2300 limit.
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Eowyn2 Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:00:10pm |
re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Tammy has a great show. Is a great mind. And a hottie Lesbian!
YEAH, if I were batting for the other team, she'd be interesting.
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:01:10pm |
re: #375 runrabbitrun
It might have only worked because Huckabee was working as a spoiler (knowing he could not win) drawing votes away from Romney, and because there might have been a Dem primary crossover-vote push to give McCain to Repubs, hoping to split the base.
Whatever. It's a form of rope-a-dope.
Sure it counts on weird or dumb stuff happening that's not your doing.
Which pretty much describes Obama bin Lunatic. Let Obama keep running his mouth, and all McCain has to do is keep smiling.*
*and pick a decent VP candidate.
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gmsc Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:01:40pm |
Any bets on who Obama will choose as his Vice Messiah?
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katemaclaren Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:01:50pm |
Hey! It's funny. It's a nice little punch. It reminds me of the Hawaiian Punch commercial where the little cartoon guy asks someone "Hey,how'd ya like a nice Hawaiian punch?" And the other guy says, "SUUURRE!" The first little fellow then punches him in the nose.
I think this is payback for the needling about Bush 3, his age, etc.,
We know what the issues are, so let's have some fun at God's (and his acolytes) expense.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:03:44pm |
re: #371 HDrepub
Opensecrets.org lists this Edwan, Monir as contributing to Obama and being in Rafah, GA. This site lists no data for Rafah, in GA or anywhere else. Neither does the this one..
Could some of the Israeli lizards look into this?
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HDrepub Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:08:05pm |
re: #381 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Could some of the Israeli lizards look into this?
There is indeed a Rafah in Gaza. That's what is confusing about the whole thing. More than one site lists this name associated with Rafah, GA being the location. I notice these people are all accountants, maybe they are just bag men, but the location Rafah is troubling.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:08:51pm |
re: #376 Fredlike
If you look at the report on the Morin Adwan donation it list the location as Canada Camp City, Rafah. This is definitely GAZA
see Donation formThe list at donordata.org has a bunch of names that could be slight misspellings of the same name, going way over the $2300 limit.
Canada Camp, for those not familiar with Gaza
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Fredlike Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:09:01pm |
re: #381 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Yes, it is listed on the detailed reports as Canada Camp City, which is just south of Rafah, Gaza. So yes this is an illegal contribution. I am attempting to download the election commission PDF but I do not know if it is searchable or not. If it is I will look for other donation slips.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:09:47pm |
re: #382 HDrepub
There is indeed a Rafah in Gaza. That's what is confusing about the whole thing. More than one site lists this name associated with Rafah, GA being the location. I notice these people are all accountants, maybe they are just bag men, but the location Rafah is troubling.
See my #383
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Miss Molly Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:09:52pm |
So when Obama quotes himself that is now racist?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:11:26pm |
re: #384 Fredlike
Yes, it is listed on the detailed reports as Canada Camp City, which is just south of Rafah, Gaza. So yes this is an illegal contribution. I am attempting to download the election commission PDF but I do not know if it is searchable or not. If it is I will look for other donation slips.
(just nitpicking, but SOUTH of Rafah means Egypt)
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Fredlike Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:12:59pm |
Some volunteer probably fills out the forms and saw GA and went with Georgia. It also has a partial Zip code, 972. The others on the same page have the full 5+4 listed. I assume the filler of the form couldn't find the city when searching on the USPS zip code list.
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Fredlike Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:15:12pm |
re: #387 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Correct. I did not read the article completely it list the camp as being in the Sinai.
But they may still use a Gaza mailing address?
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debutaunt Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:16:25pm |
re: #277 Cognito
How so, exactly? I'm a McCain supporter.
Why?
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Peter Verkooijen Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:16:38pm |
Funny and effective until the tagline. Please stop using that lame 'not ready to lead' argument!
It doesn't work for several reasons:
1. It implies Obama will be ready sometime in the future, when he's a little older, like in 4 or 8 years.
2. It diverts attention from what Obama actually stands for, his radical socialist ideology.
3. Younger voters don't care, they identify with his inexperience. Not being ready is what makes Obama the "change" candidate.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:16:56pm |
re: #388 Fredlike
Some volunteer probably fills out the forms and saw GA and went with Georgia. It also has a partial Zip code, 972. The others on the same page have the full 5+4 listed. I assume the filler of the form couldn't find the city when searching on the USPS zip code list.
Yeah. Look at the actual street address on the "Donation Form" you linked to. It ain't American.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:19:07pm |
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HDrepub Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:19:39pm |
re: #388 Fredlike
I assume the filler of the form couldn't find the city when searching on the USPS zip code list.
There is no zip code listing for Rafah, GA.
The contributions were made to Obama for America with an address in Chicago.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:23:29pm |
re: #389 Fredlike
Correct. I did not read the article completely it list the camp as being in the Sinai.
But they may still use a Gaza mailing address?
Here's a map showing its location -- inside Egypt, but smack across the boundary. Logic says the "main P.O." would be Rafah in Gaza.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:26:06pm |
re: #394 HDrepub
There is no zip code listing for Rafah, GA.
The contributions were made to Obama for America with an address in Chicago.
Are postal codes used in the Gaza Strip? Could 972 be a Gaza code?
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ReneeJoy Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:31:27pm |
My favorite part: "We are the ones we've been waiting for." ROFLMAO
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ReneeJoy Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:31:58pm |
re: #397 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Are postal codes used in the Gaza Strip? Could 972 be a Gaza code?
972 is the country code to phone Israel.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:37:11pm |
re: #399 ReneeJoy
972 is the country code to phone Israel.
The Donation Form shows "972" under "zip code"
And Georgia, US, zip codes are in the 30000 range. A "972xx" zip code would be on the West Coast.
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:38:35pm |
re: #37 karmic_inquisitor
Here is the Obama camp response
"It’s downright sad that on a day when we learned that 51,000 Americans lost their jobs, a candidate for the presidency is spending all of his time and the powerful platform he has on these sorts of juvenile antics," said spokesman Hari Sevugan.
As pretentious as anything in the ad.
Juvenile antics for a juvenile candidate.
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itellu3times Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:40:26pm |
re: #391 Peter Verkooijen
Funny and effective until the tagline. Please stop using that lame 'not ready to lead' argument!
It doesn't work for several reasons:
1. It implies Obama will be ready sometime in the future, when he's a little older, like in 4 or 8 years.
2. It diverts attention from what Obama actually stands for, his radical socialist ideology.
3. Younger voters don't care, they identify with his inexperience. Not being ready is what makes Obama the "change" candidate.
I agree. It was mildly amusing and offputting, and then they waste it on a bad tagline.
Shit, half the electorate viewing this, will take it as entirely positive and non-sarcastic - which is no doubt why the political consultants put on such a lame tag.
Politics - it ain't beanbag.
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LesLein Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:44:23pm |
Guess who said the following in late 2005?
"I don't think I have a place in history yet. I got elected to the U.S. Senate. I haven't done anything yet."
[Link: justoneminute.typepad.com...]
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Proud to be American Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:44:44pm |
More good stuff from McCain's team:
McCain Camp Compares Times Editorial Board to 'the Average Daily Kos Diarist'
"If the shareholders of the New York Times ever wonder why the paper's ad revenue is plummeting and its share price tanking, they need look no further than the hysterical reaction of the paper's editors to any slight, real or imagined, against their preferred candidate. This campaign has never engaged in 'racially tinged attacks,' and the Obama campaign conceded as much yesterday in a statement clarifying that "Barack Obama in no way believes that the McCain campaign is using race as an issue."
That the Times made this allegation in a blog post rather than running it on the editorial page indicates that they either knew the charge was bogus or they didn't have the nerve to make their case in full view of the public. But in their new role as bloggers, the paper's editors seem to have all the intelligence and reason of the average Daily Kos diarist sitting at home in his mother's basement and ranting into the ether between games of dungeons and dragons. They also have about as much care for the facts--the "board" has already been forced to append a correction."
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:55:03pm |
Dammit!
I can't find any typical addresses, with postal codes, in the Gaza Strip.
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stevieray Fri, Aug 1, 2008 4:59:58pm |
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Freedom Fan Fri, Aug 1, 2008 5:01:02pm |
Brilliant! McCain's ad has captured perfectly the arrogance of this pathetic underachiever.
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Fredlike Fri, Aug 1, 2008 5:06:54pm |
Checked a bunch of the 2007 year final reports for Morin Edwan and Hosam Edwan All show the following address
tal esoltan 295/5
rafah GA 972
Note: these are low resolution and the above address is a guess only.
List occupation as Accounting and Employer as Acounter
Could potentially be an expatriate and not a foreign citizen.
It is a pain in the butt to search the records though. The Obama for America records run over 10,000 pages per quarter and pages can not be searched.
The Morin Adwan report lists the Canada Camp address but otherwise is the same.
Some of the entries are also negative indicating a refund perhaps.
These can be found at nictusa year end 2007 the first continued report on page 2580 or so.
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Blue Eyed Music Lover Fri, Aug 1, 2008 5:12:00pm |
I love this ad. It only takes a small pin to prick a gas bag.
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Fredlike Fri, Aug 1, 2008 5:34:27pm |
Take back my complaint on the election commision you can search fillings
Advanced search and their is a link to the campaign report page from the search entries.
Rafah entries total $32319.00 and run from 9/12/07 to 1/13/08 but mostly in October November of 07
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DeepThroat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 5:43:21pm |
Funny, but weak.
The McCain campaign needs to do a commercial based on this.
Watch the ending.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 5:52:37pm |
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knight_of_st_john Fri, Aug 1, 2008 5:54:56pm |
"The One" was good but I think this was the best of all time:
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Fredlike Fri, Aug 1, 2008 6:03:23pm |
re: #415 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Paris France had quite a bit in contributions but not all to one campaign and not from people all living at the same address. Paris was spread over three or so pages and it did not give a total amount. People with the first name of Osama gave $55,024.00 but once again to lots of different committees.
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hazzyday Fri, Aug 1, 2008 6:11:47pm |
I see David Gergen on NBC news saying this will come back to haunt McCain and he will be ridiculed. Hmmmm.... I think that already happened evne before the ads. Gergen is in the tank for Obama.
I think McCain should keep the pressure on and just change up the pace and throw back a Rev Wright/Obama Wrong ad.
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hazzyday Fri, Aug 1, 2008 6:19:09pm |
Leadership comes from an inner drive and a a fellowship with exprienced leaders. It also comes from having screwed up. A leader knows how to make the right decision when the unfactful are yelling at the door.
People fail on the rise to leadership. Leaders new to power hold the reigns poorly due to lack of experience. Others hold them poorly due to lack of integrity.
Obama has no experience. He will blunder and fail and have to rely on the strong images of his past. Rev Wright, Ayers.... etc. That is where he will go to steady himself. He doesn't deny it. The more he weighs himself as the candidate of color instead of the candidate of the people is the circle he is drawing around himself.
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Big Steve Fri, Aug 1, 2008 6:51:03pm |
I liked McCain's response to the criticism...kind of a Reagan like, "aw shucks we were just having a little fun."
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nadadhimmi Fri, Aug 1, 2008 7:02:20pm |
re: #12 eschew_obfuscation
I would think so.....it's so self-contained ...... using Obama's own words to paint the picture.
Ridicule is the best way to show Obama for what he is truly. Frank Capra directed a series of films during WW2 that used The Italian and German statements as pro Allied propaganda. When asked the best way to expose Hitler and Mussolini, Capra said to use legitimate but unexpurgated quotes from them. It worked brilliantly and the series was called: "Why We Fight". Ridicule renders pomposity,,,ridiculous.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 7:08:40pm |
re: #417 Fredlike
Paris France had quite a bit in contributions but not all to one campaign and not from people all living at the same address. Paris was spread over three or so pages and it did not give a total amount. People with the first name of Osama gave $55,024.00 but once again to lots of different committees.
Back in late, just to check this subject before shutting the computer down for the night.
This one guy in Rafah (and I have a strong hunch it's one, using at least two names) is MOST interesting to me. What sort of Palestinian "accountant" would have $31K to throw at a single American political campaign over a period of 16 days in Oct/Nov 2007. Yes, he could be an American citizen, working for the UN or something, but there's a strong odor of decaying fish about him. I'd love to see if the Israeli lizards could turn up anything.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Fri, Aug 1, 2008 7:14:15pm |
I'm outta here, Fredlike. I'll check back on this thread in the morning.
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conservativeChick Fri, Aug 1, 2008 7:33:13pm |
I love this ad! It is perfect. I love how they attacked Obama for his messiah complex. The Charles Heston part was perfect and icing on the cake.
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ladycatnip Fri, Aug 1, 2008 8:20:35pm |
#318 rlevitin
re: #265 Cognito
Man. That is one terrible advertisement.
Nothing ruins satire like an on-the-nose bludgeoning, and nothing ruins a political ad like quotes clearly taken out of context.
Good job, McCain marketing team. Why don't you just vote Obama, next? That's the only further effort remaining.
I must admit, I was very disappointed to read a couple of minutes ago that my favorite quote from the ad is out of context.
The whole "A Light will come down, from somewhere" clip is supposedly in response to a question or comment about conservatives making fun of him as "the one".
and that makes sense given what he says.
=(
It was still a heck of a laugh though, and I'm sure it is going to be an effective one.
Obama's second language is in soundbites, so he should have known better. Because he's arrogant, condescending, and because he's deliberately posed on many occasions with his head in a halo, I seriously doubt this was a punchline.
He had this coming.
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ken_brun Fri, Aug 1, 2008 8:50:34pm |
I can't believe it. I'm actually seeing the McCain displaying a set of cojones and a sense of humor. Cripes, he should run stuff like this right up until the election. It's beautiful, all the more so because it's amusingly accurate.
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bungie Fri, Aug 1, 2008 9:02:13pm |
It's a great ad because its FUNNY; it's entertaining; people will watch it, talk about it and chuckle. That's all. Let's keep our sense of humor.
It's not the whole campaign. It's just poking fun at the grandiosity of Obama and his star-struck worshipers in the media (and in Hollywood.) And . . . how more effectively can you attack the star-struck worshipers than with ridicule? The McCain campaign has got to go after the grandiosity and the branding that has made Obama "cool." I think ridicule is the best way. I've been using it for weeks with the throngs of 19 year olds coming through my house, and I find it works even coming from me-a 59 year old Mom- who would have thought!
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LeonidasOfSparta Fri, Aug 1, 2008 9:05:42pm |
It's GREAT! Go McCain. He has hit upon THE answer-- laughter and good humoured ridicule of the OBVIOUS idiocy of the self-absorption of "Barack MILLHOUSE Obama" (as Mark Levin calls him.)
LMAO
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SpartanWoman Fri, Aug 1, 2008 9:17:19pm |
re: #429 LeonidasOfSparta
It's GREAT! Go McCain. He has hit upon THE answer-- laughter and good humoured ridicule of the OBVIOUS idiocy of the self-absorption of "Barack MILLHOUSE Obama" (as Mark Levin calls him.)
LMAO
I agree completely and great nic by the way.
Charleton Heston as Moses was a perfect finale. If McCain can make people laugh at Obama he will yank the bloom off the rose and remove the Glo-bama halo for ever.
Never Change Maverick (except about illegal immigration)
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Boolz Fri, Aug 1, 2008 9:18:48pm |
the problem with sarcastic political commercials is there are too many people too dumb to get sarcasm (how many people have to use sarcasm tags here, for example?). Thanks to McCains ad, there are probable hundreds, and more probably thousands, of sub 90 IQ people out there just now paying attention to politics being told that Jackass Obama is, yes, indeed, the Messiah...by the OPPOSITION, no less!
on a slightly more serious note, does anybody else here beside me not liking the negative tone of the early McCain ads? I'm not trying to single out McCain, because LOTS of politicians do this, and I'm not targeting negative campaigning, because LOTS of times it's justified and deserved.
but it seems to me if you spend ALL of your time badmouthing your opponent, it's because you have nothing good to say about yourself. I am far from a McCain supporter, but I hope he spends more time trumpeting his decades of public service more than Obamas lack of it. I hope he spends more time demonstrating his military service more than Obamas lack of it. I hope he spends more time showing his support of the surge in Iraq than Obamas opposition to it. I'm not saying he can't do BOTH, because nobody says you can't be positive and negative at the same time, but if you only got thirty seconds to a minute of time restricted to you in a political commercial on TV, try talking about yourself more than your opponent. just my two cents
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Dagny Taggart Fri, Aug 1, 2008 9:32:03pm |
Absolutely. Frackin'. Brilliant. Made a thrill run up my leg.
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SpartanWoman Fri, Aug 1, 2008 10:08:57pm |
re: #431 Boolz
The sarcasm on this one cannot be missed. Even if someone is silly enough not to get the joke by the tone of the announcer, the Charlton
Heston Finale drives the point home with a great laugh and the silly obama seal.
I don't think this is negative campaining as much as lampooning Obama's nonsense. If McCain went negative and harped about taxes, gas or called O the communist he is one could call this negative.
It's humorous and uses Obama's own excessed againt him.
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GATORBAIT Fri, Aug 1, 2008 10:10:00pm |
It wasn't "satire." It wasn't "childish." It wasn't "trivial."
It was ridicule, pure and simple, identifying the pomposity and stupidity of this rotten demagogue.
Good job, John. Give em hell!
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LEGION Fri, Aug 1, 2008 10:13:00pm |
It's fine. About time. The word is spreading on what a self absorbed loser obama is.
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Optimizer Fri, Aug 1, 2008 10:24:27pm |
O ... M ... G !
You're serious - this is a for-real McCain ad!?! That's unreal! I thought I was gonna die laughing!
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meeshlr Fri, Aug 1, 2008 10:57:09pm |
What a fantastic ad.
I'm missing most of the ads up here in Canada. While that's usually a good thing when it comes to political ads, I do wish I could see the good ones. Thanks for posting.
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DaMav Fri, Aug 1, 2008 11:59:53pm |
One of the funniest and best political advertisements I have ever seen in my 50 something years. I was literally laughing out loud when Heston jumped in with the trumpets.
If you don't think McCain is hitting home runs with this and "Celebrity" listen to the liberals in the media sputtering with outrage. I never thought McCain had it in him, but I'm actually starting to get mildly enthusiastic about him. He may go down swinging, but he is taking some damn good swings.
These ads are only partly directed at Obama. They are really aimed at the media which has turned him in to a celebrity and a Messiah. The media hasn't figured that out yet. And neither has the Obama Campaign. Their expressions of anger and outrage simply drive home the point of the adverts.
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Jed Sat, Aug 2, 2008 6:08:30am |
Hilarious. I loved it.
Obamassiah for President? Savior?
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J'accuzzi Sat, Aug 2, 2008 9:22:40am |
First of a huge series! Let us pray! Almost Simpsonian in its balloon bursting wit!
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MoonbatBane Sat, Aug 2, 2008 1:15:44pm |
Remeber, too, fellow lizards that libs take themselves VERY seriously and cannot bear mockery and scathing humor. It literally unhinges them. (Just another way libs and jihadis are alike in many ways, BTW.)
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Lawrence Schmerel Sun, Aug 3, 2008 12:14:37pm |
The ending ruined the message. What a lousy conclusion. It fell completely flat. "Obama may be the one. But is he ready to lead?" That is stupid. Why pose that stupid question at the end? Why do they accept the premise that "Obama may be the one" and then pose the question as being merely whether he is ready to lead? I don't like the way they are handled this. Is it just me?
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doriangrey Sun, Aug 3, 2008 12:20:40pm |
re: #442 Lawrence Schmerel
The ending ruined the message. What a lousy conclusion. It fell completely flat. "Obama may be the one. But is he ready to lead?" That is stupid. Why pose that stupid question at the end? Why do they accept the premise that "Obama may be the one" and then pose the question as being merely whether he is ready to lead? I don't like the way they are handled this. Is it just me?
ROTFLMAO..... Sorry dude, it's you. The blatantly obvious sarcasm in this ad is that Obama very much not only is not the one, but is not a leader either... lol...lol...lol... Thats sarcasm thick enough to cut with a dull butter knife.
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Lawrence Schmerel Sun, Aug 3, 2008 12:29:13pm |
