lizards on the run...

That's why I got rid of SiteMeter quite a while back...the last time their code threw a fit!

I can't stress ditching IE enough.

I can't bring up sitemeter now, using IE6

re: #3 Sharmuta

I can't stress ditching IE enough.

I just ditched IE7 last night and alked through the door with a new Macbook! Safari kicks IE7's arse any day of the week. What an incredible machine Mac builds!

That's not the SiteMeter I knew.
/BHO

Speaking of crashing & going on 5 WEEKS vacation, how about those Democrats leaving in the midst of a energy crisis?

While Rome burns, democrats fiddle!

First, we had smashing protons.

Now, we've got smashing browsers.

Where's my smashing pumpkins.

Sitemeter has been shady for a long time. This shouldn't surprise anyone.

re: #7 alegrias

I'm sure to their minds it was a good move. They feel they can't be held to their stand on the issue because they didn't take one.

However, I can already see the ads. "While Americans pay record high gas prices, the Republicans try to pass a bill to get things done. The Democrats? They went home."

re: #7 alegrias

Indeed. The Democrats fecklessness is going to be their undoing if the GOP can stay on target. The Democrats also know they're weak on energy policy, which is why Pelosi carried out a defeat and retreat from the House chamber.

I don't think any website crashes IE, really.

It's just that some of them aren't diligent enough in their efforts to hold a suicidal IE back from crashing itself.

re: #10 Mars Needs Neocons

I'm sure to their minds it was a good move. They feel they can't be held to their stand on the issue because they didn't take one.

However, I can already see the ads. "While Americans pay record high gas prices, the Republicans try to pass a bill to get things done. The Democrats? They went home."

If the GOP don't use that angle, they're idiots.

re: #8 lawhawk

First, we had smashing protons.

Now, we've got smashing browsers.

Where's my smashing pumpkins.

NICE!

re: #13 Spiny Norman

If the GOP don't use that angle, they're idiots.

Oh give them more credit. They've had so much practice, they've moved beyond idiots. When it comes to using what they have they are Uber-idiots. I've seen so many Repub's commit career suicide by refusing to use ads detailing their opponents many crimes, votes, and statements.

Now who the heck wouldn't want anyone to know which websites get the most visits?

I'm shutting down this afternoon to load FF2 per Sharm's advise...LOL
If something goes wrong Sharm...I want reparations.

Maybe google is flipping off microsoft on purpose.

Meh, my wife ran into it on her friend's online diary site, so we did the *.sitemeter.com in the restricted sites trick, and solved it in 30 seconds.

re: #19 Shay4l

solved mine also

Internet Explorer? Who uses that? If it were an option, I'd uninstall it from windows. There are so many better choices for windows machines, namely:

1. Opera
2. Firefox
3. Safari

One of the commenters on JustOneMinute has suggested this for IE users - they are having success with it:

OT: Sitemeter.com is delivering buggy JavaScript code.

To fix IE7: Click on the menu Tools -> Internet Options. Click on the tab Security. Click on the icon Restricted Sites. Click on the button Sites. Type the text '*.sitemeter.com' (without quotes). Click the Add button.

That will fix the problem.

Posted by: Gideon7 | August 01, 2008 at 11:43 PM

Fixed - posting with IE7. Now back to FireFox.

{^_^}

Thank all the gods above I have a Mac, and that Microsoft stopped making Internet Exploder for the Mac.

re: #17 jorline

I'm sure you'll be fine.

re: #24 RememberSekhmet?

Thank all the gods above I have a Mac, and that Microsoft stopped making Internet Exploder for the Mac.

* * *
Wiseguy!

Would the F*CK is anyone still using Internet Explorer?

Interesting - they "fixed it" by taking themselves off the net.

Neither sitemeter.com nor [Link: www.sitemeter.com...] reach anything in either IE7 or FireFox.

That's one way to solve a problem, I guess.

{^_^}

re: #27 thebronze

Would the F*CK is anyone still using Internet Explorer?

Make that "Why in the F*CK is anyone still using Internet Explorer"

I use both Firefox and IE at work and at home. Some sites just work better with IE, give me a break!

re: #27 thebronze

Would the F*CK is anyone still using Internet Explorer?

To annoy profanity spewers like you? {^_-}

There are some pages, line Commentary Magazine, that do not work well with FireFox.

And IE7 "plays better" with "msdn.(theevilplace).com", which I need to access from time to time for professional reasons.

{^_^}

re: #29 thebronze

Make that "Why in the F*CK is anyone still using Internet Explorer"

There are some secure sites for things like banks and web-based work applications, and lazy webmasters who use MS proprietary code for their sites that doesn't load right in anything else but Exploder.

re: #30 Shay4l

I use both Firefox and IE at work and at home. Some sites just work better with IE, give me a break!

That's why Firefox has an "open in IE tab" extension.

Firefox and Safari for Windows are two good alternatives for IE7.
Btw, can anyone recommend a good alternative (and free one) for Site Meter? Thank you in advance.

re: #29 thebronze

On how many levels do you think I am an idiot, too?
I use IE6 and had the problem, too.

re: #29 thebronze

Make that "Why in the F*CK is anyone still using Internet Explorer"

Internet Explorer is the only browser supported by Netflix. I think you need it to watch CNN videos, too

re: #34 Abu Lahab

Firefox and Safari for Windows are two good alternatives for IE7.
Btw, can anyone recommend a good alternative (and free one) for Site Meter? Thank you in advance.

http://www.statcounter.com/

anyone tried it with opera :-)

re: #36 Neo Con since 9-11

Internet Explorer is the only browser supported by Netflix. I think you need it to watch CNN videos, too

Never had a problem with FF and netflix.

#22

That fix worked for me. So pass it on.

re: #37 Syrah

Thank you so much.

Kidapult.......
Do NOT try this at home!

re: #39 Mars Needs Neocons

Never had a problem with FF and netflix.

You can update your Netflix Queue with FF and that's it. If you actually want to download a movie with their Watch Instantly service you need IE or buy a separate piece of hardware.

re: #42 Killgore Trout
wow! i will Never show that to my kids. i know they'd try it

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Kidapult.......
Do NOT try this at home!

Bungeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Kidapult.......
Do NOT try this at home!

WHY NOT?

re: #46 jcm

WHY NOT?

Oh oh.

re: #44 willowone

It does look like big fun though.

re: #43 Neo Con since 9-11

I've never used watch instantly, but I've been told it works fine with the IE tab extension.

I had this happen when I tried to look at the puppyblender last night before leaving work. My work system is configured with MSIE 6 dot something and accesses the net through an Internet proxy gateway.

re: #48 Killgore Trout
does

re: #47 debutaunt

Oh oh.

LOL!

thats bungee on steriods , viagra and beer

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Kidapult.......
Do NOT try this at home!

Sign that kid up for the space program.

It takes a certain amount of courage and disregard for obvious danger to sit on top of giant roman candle and/or to ride that sling shot.

IF that launch had gone wrong, she would have certainly have been killed.

Apparently Sitemeter updated their scripts yesterday and that triggered the problem.

The error is:

It is not possible append to the BODY element from script that isn’t a direct child to the BODY element

According to a few sites I checked the problem has something to do with the placement of scripts inside the "body tags"... or sumptin' like that...

I hate Illinois browser-nazis

I'll keep my Sitemeter code, thank you very much. Having something that filters out IE users is a feature, not a bug.

re: #27 thebronze

Gee, because we're all morons? Must be hard for you being so smart, poor thing.

Give me a break, can you fit in the same room as your ego?

Just switched to FF last night, love it too!

There are a lot of sites affected by this; did they just release a buggy update and go on a long weekend vacation?

Maybe they left the hamsters in charge.

I just filled a report on this with my friends at SANS.
I referred them here to pick up the trail Charles...and perhaps they will be able [maybe a slow Saturday for them] to isolate and identify the error at sitemeter.

Should I receive an email from them? Ill post any detail here.
But hopefully they will discover the specific issue.
Hey. Its what they do...

The Site Meter main web site now shows: "Bad Request (Invalid Hostname)."

[Link: weblog.sitemeter.com...]

But Im using Firefox...the IE issue may remain.

SiteMeter IE Issues Resolved

Dear SiteMeter Users,

We have become aware of a compatibility issue with our SiteMeter tracking code and IE 7 (possibly IE 6) browsers that started sometime last night.

The problem was related to some work we were doing on the backend system for our upcoming website launch.

We’ve identified and resolved two separate but related issues -

1 - IE Users viewing pages - There was a problem with users who placed their SiteMeter tracking code outside of their HTML Body Tag. Because of the changes we made this created a failure for visitors viewing sites using Internet Explorer 7.

2 - Accessing SiteMeter and Stats - Individuals trying to access or view their SiteMeter stats by clicking on their SiteMeter logo/icons were unable to gain access. This again appears to have affected only individuals using IE7.

At this time both problems have been fixed and our services are fully operational.

For those who removed the SiteMeter code from your pages please be assured that the problem has been resolved and we sincerely aplogize for the inconvenience.

Sincerely,
The SiteMeter Team

Still getting "Bad Request" when I go to their main site. The blog site works OK.

re: #65 Charles

sitemeter.com -> bad request

www.sitemeter.com -> displays their site (on Safari/Mac)

Charles: I was just able to get on sitemeter. I don't know if it's because I'm in IE 6 on my computer or what.

re: #66 aaron

sitemeter.com -> bad request

www.sitemeter.com -> displays their site (on Safari/Mac)

Hmm. Not here -- same error with the www. prefix.

In IE7 the main site comes up once, but if you try to refresh the page you get the "Bad Request" error.

Lemme try with IE7

re: #68 Charles

cache issue now on your end?

I just cruised through [Link: www.sitemeter.com...] on WinXP/IE7 with no issues - but it was the first time that browser on that box had ever been to that site.

All looks fine for me using IE7 at sitemeter

aaron is probably correct

I used a website validation service on sitemeter.com, it said it couldn't validate it because of a bad request error.

Maybe they're messing with DNS but it hasn't finished propagating.

Hmmm using the [Link: www...] front of sitemeter I was able to get the validation service to find the page and then it showed the numerous errors that a lot of web pages give because of sloppy HTML code.

FWIW, see the following from nslookup:

Name: sitemeter.com
Address: 74.52.160.50

Name: [Link: www.sitemeter.com...]
Address: 74.53.21.34

Ordinarily one would have both names resolving to the same IP address...

Too many web related site have terrible quality control issues. Many do not have good procedures for installing software updates; the change is just installed, in some shops without a defined rollback procedure. One company, from which I was retired, had its primary revenue generator system fail over the weekend; there were 200-separate system crashes that weekend before the system support people were brought in. My cell phone vendor drops in software updates in whenever they feel like, IMHO. Those cell phone vendor changes are readily apparent due to panel changes, functionality changes, data availability changes, etc...

While I don't know what is going on with Site meter's software, my guess is that a non-verified software change was installed and that either its software support team is off for the weekend or that team is scrambling to figure out how to roll back or correct the problem.

One issue that mainframers figured out the hard way many years ago was software configuration management, especially source code changes and operational software versioning; this really did happen the hard way for many shops.

While I retired almost 8-years ago, it doesn't appear that good practices and good software versioning tools have been put in place for web related software. Pity.

They seem to be up now, ok.

Charlies, I think I found a small bug in your code.

[various line numbers)...end tag for element "SPAN" which is not open.

...me" target="_blank">Charles 8/02/08 12:30:02 pm

[Link: weblog.sitemeter.com...]

Same issue with IE6, too.

Maybe it's a grand plot by the Mozilla Foundation.

I wonder if their (legacy ASP site, by all appearances) got hacked and the compromised Javascript was up to no good.

There's odd script coming out of sitemeter and I'd hazard a guess that is actually from one of their advertising partners. Remember the spyware they were planting last year? I'd bet that it was really a coding error and not a power problem that shut down three of their servers two months ago.

Oops - thanks Max Darkside... I changed my template and it does indeed appear to be working again.

I have been using a version of the HOSTS file provided by MVPS.org that has been blocking all the known servers of sitemeter already. It do it by redirecting the browser or any internet connection using name resolution to IP 127.0.0.1, which is essentially making the route go to nowhere. The modified HOSTS file is a big blacklist of known sites that have been determined to be bad for one reason or another. I recommend to anyone looking to make any machine safer to use to look into it. Here's more on the HOSTS file: Wikipedia on HOSTS file

re: #80 DoubleU

Charlies, I think I found a small bug in your code.

Thanks, that's an odd one that actually shows up mostly in validation checks. I just fixed it.

WOW...just made the switch to Foxfire 3..this is a lot faster, especially when loading LGF.

re: #40 bpjt

#22

That fix worked for me. So pass it on.

Worked like a charm for me too.

re: #87 jorline

WOW...just made the switch to Foxfire 3..this is a lot faster, especially when loading LGF.

Ive been using FF 3 thru the Beta process until the RC Candidate and I think its great all around. Some folks have minor issues with bookmarks...but damn it loads faster than IE mush.

re: #89 jimzinsocal

Ive been using FF 3 thru the Beta process until the RC Candidate and I think its great all around. Some folks have minor issues with bookmarks...but damn it loads faster than IE mush.

I'm amazed how fast this site loads...with IE I had to wait.

I loaded FF3 on my laptop that operates Vista. I would like to change my wife's and kids computers as well, their operating system is XP...would that be a smart move?

I'm not a happy camper - couldn't get to nearly two thirds of the sites I frequent without blowing up.

Havong major withdrawal symptoms.

re: #91 jorline

I loaded FF3 on my laptop that operates Vista. I would like to change my wife's and kids computers as well, their operating system is XP...would that be a smart move?

Why not? If for no other reason its always wise to have an alternate browser.
Also with FF 3 Mozilla has made great improvements around the resources
it consumes.

I use XP and it works just fine.

re: #92 MaximumBob

I'm not a happy camper - couldn't get to nearly two thirds of the sites I frequent without blowing up.

Havong major withdrawal symptoms.

problems with?

re: #89 jimzinsocal

Ive been using FF 3 thru the Beta process until the RC Candidate and I think its great all around. Some folks have minor issues with bookmarks...but damn it loads faster than IE mush.

The only big problem I have with FF3 is the cookie approval bug. If a page is opening on a background tab, and it needs a cookie approval from me to continue, that tab jumps to the front until I select its cookie status. In FF2, a dialog box would open for the new cookie approval, but the browser would stay on the original tab.

Sitemeter get hacked?

Friends don't let friends use IE...

re: #96 markie

Sitemeter get hacked?

Friends don't let friends use IE...

Not hacked I dont imagine. Evidently fixed now and from the writeup
posted above a couple of times they simply botched some stuff as they prepare for a new site launch.....if I assumed correctly.

Agree on what you say about IE.
Just like friends wont let friends buy Bose. Ha!

I dropped and blocked sitemeter back when they went evil with the tracking cookies, and I've never looked back. My hosting company has a number of FINE stats packages to choose from.

re: #86 Charles

No problem, glad you found it, some of the code I pasted was removed when I saved the message.

re: #87 jorline

WOW...just made the switch to Foxfire 3..this is a lot faster, especially when loading LGF.

If you are using Windows start Firefox, start task manager and check out how much memory is being used. Let it run all night (or all day while at work) and see if the memory usage increases. I think FF3 leaks memory, it also freezes (but than thaws out) if it hasn't been used in a while.

re: #58 gymgal

Gee, because we're all morons? Must be hard for you being so smart, poor thing.

Give me a break, can you fit in the same room as your ego?

Just switched to FF last night, love it too!

I made a remark about why anyone would use IE because it's such a sh*t product and it's about my ego?

That doesn't make any sense what so ever.

So you started using a better product (FireFox) and you like it better, yet I'm the one with the ego problem?

I guess that makes sense in your world...

re: #60 jimzinsocal

I just filled a report on this with my friends at SANS.
I referred them here to pick up the trail Charles...and perhaps they will be able [maybe a slow Saturday for them] to isolate and identify the error at sitemeter.

Should I receive an email from them? Ill post any detail here.
But hopefully they will discover the specific issue.
Hey. Its what they do...

[Link: isc.sans.org...]