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Obama's 'Dollar Bill' Comments Backfire

Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:46:52 am PDT

Barack Obama may have underestimated the American public when he tried to manipulate them with race-baiting comments about his skin color.

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of the nation’s voters say they’ve seen news coverage of the McCain campaign commercial that includes images of Britney Spears and Paris Hilton and suggests that Barack Obama is a celebrity just like them. Of those, just 22% say the ad was racist while 63% say it was not.

However, Obama’s comment that his Republican opponent will try to scare people because Obama does not look like all the other presidents on dollar bills was seen as racist by 53%. Thirty-eight percent (38%) disagree.

Both campaigns expressed a desire to move beyond the recent flap. On Saturday Obama backed off the racism charge and accused McCain’s campaign of cynicism instead. He also rejected McCain’s charge that the Democrat himself had brought race into the campaign with his dollar bill comment.

(Hat tip: JammieWearingFool.)

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1 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:47:52am

The American people are not a gullible as obama thought we were.

2 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:48:17am

Is this the start of the Obama-implosion?

/please, please let it be so.

3 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:48:25am
accused McCain’s campaign of cynicism

Pot? Meet Kettle.

4 Right Brain  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:48:32am

It wasn't racist at all, but it could be called sexist because the intent was to make him out to be a little girl.

5 Right Brain  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:49:04am

Why is there no mention anywhere of The One ad that McCain has out? Even funnier.

6 ironbill  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:50:58am

He can only squeeze the tooth paste tube of white guilt so much

7 reine.de.tout  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:50:59am

re: #1 Sharmuta

The American people are not a gullible as obama thought we were.

People are plum tired of being told they are "racist" if they don't plan to vote for Obama.

The election for the President of the United States is too important. Most people will base their vote based on what they believe the candidate will bring to the office. For many people, the fact is that Obama doesn't bring very much at all, other than his race, and that just isn't enough.

8 Macker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:51:10am

I have this gut feeling that, come the Demo☭ratic National Convention in Denver, Hillary will have something up her sleeve....

9 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:51:22am

There's plenty of time for this latest gaffe to wear off. Most folks still aren't quite engaged in the process, but it is nice to see that the luster has already started to wear off Obama's hopey-changey nonsense.

It's also entertaining for the media to come around and report on this given that Obama's statements this week were nothing more than his stock stump speech he's given dozens of times in the past few months.

All of this still pales in comparison to the gift the Democrats have given the GOP on energy policy.

You want McCain to win in November (or at least keep Obama from winning)? Press home the issue of energy and that the Democrats chose for a paid vacation over doing their constitutionally mandated job to provide for the common welfare.

10 Right Brain  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:51:46am

Read Powerline this morning: Obama sponsored (first thing we've found!) a bill in 2005 to prevent geologists from taking inventory of the offshore oil reserves. Not drill, not pump, not set up a rig, a bill to prevent an inventory.

11 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:52:58am

re: #2 BlueCanuck

Is this the start of the Obama-implosion?

/please, please let it be so.

Be careful what you wish for. If this is the beginning of the implosion then Hillary may come back into play.

12 looking closely  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:53:28am

Now stung over this, Obama is likely to himself be a little more careful about being racist himself.

This "I don't look like the other guys" crap isn't going to fly anymore.

13 Right Brain  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:53:37am

re: #6 ironbill

Good image!

14 CynicalConservative  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:53:56am

re: #8 Macker

I have this gut feeling that, come the Demo☭ratic National Convention in Denver, Hillary will have something up her sleeve....

I have the same feeling... (nice twist on the D word there...)

15 lori lane  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:54:02am

re: #8 Macker

I have this gut feeling that, come the Demo☭ratic National Convention in Denver, Hillary will have something up her sleeve....

should be some good tv!

16 Right Brain  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:54:14am

re: #11 The Other Les

Operation Chaos, Part II

17 looking closely  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:54:27am

re: #11 The Other Les

Be careful what you wish for. If this is the beginning of the implosion then Hillary may come back into play.

If that were to happen at this late hour it would be fantastic.

Nothing better could happen to split the Dem vote and make Dem voters stay home in disgust.

Unfortunately, its not going to happen.

18 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:54:32am

re: #7 reine.de.tout

I agree we're tired of hearing we're racists. I also think it's a losing strategy every time to tell people not to believe their own lying eyes. People have seen that ad- and to be told it's racist when it's clearly not has obviously backfired.

19 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:55:07am

re: #12 looking closely

I disagree. He'll still use it because it works well for him in the inner cities and urban areas where he needs to maximize his vote there to offset his failings everywhere else.

20 lori lane  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:55:08am

re: #16 Right Brain

Operation Chaos, Part II

reporting for duty! :)

21 Halman  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:55:10am

Even Juan Williams on Fox News Sunday this morning stated that Obama played the "Race Card".

22 Right Brain  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:55:12am

Demo☭ratic

Is this symbol on the keyboard?

23 skippyMoment  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:55:13am

It is hard not to see Obama's comment as racial, it's as obvious as the skin on his face. I don't care that he's a black man; okay, mostly black, but I still don't care, that argument is a red herring. He's a socialist to his core, and that is what matters to me.

The MSM is carrying Obama's water for him and trying to advance the argument while ignoring the facts of the statements he makes. The American public is not that stupid.

I'm thinking about buying Jerome Corsi's new book, "The Obamanation." He was on Hannity's American on Friday and it sounds like an informative, well-researched book with over 700 footnotes. At least someone is not buying into the god-like illusion this guys handlers are trying to create. Seems to me Stalin's handlers did something similar with him (with him pulling the strings of course) and look how that turned out for the Russian people.

24 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:55:18am

Well the work day is now over. Have a good one lizards. Think happy thoughts.

25 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:55:30am

re: #4 Right Brain

It wasn't racist at all, but it could be called sexist because the intent was to make him out to be a little girl.

What's wrong with little girls?

26 looking closely  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:56:09am

re: #18 Sharmuta

I agree we're tired of hearing we're racists. I also think it's a losing strategy every time to tell people not to believe their own lying eyes. People have seen that ad- and to be told it's racist when it's clearly not has obviously backfired.

I think this "controversy" has helped McCain because its caused a much wider exposure of the ad.

McCain got tons of free coverage from it, and its precisely BECAUSE Obama's people pointed at racism where none exists.

27 Macker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:56:10am

re: #14 CynicalConservative and re: #15 lori lane

Thanks to TextExpander!

28 ironbill  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:56:29am

re: #13 Right Brain

The subtle implication in his rhetoric is that "If you reject my message, you are racist." That will eventually wear thin on many who have allowed a tinge of multi-culti phantasm to cloud their thought processes.

29 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:56:30am

re: #10 Right Brain

Read Powerline this morning: Obama sponsored (first thing we've found!) a bill in 2005 to prevent geologists from taking inventory of the offshore oil reserves. Not drill, not pump, not set up a rig, a bill to prevent an inventory.

[Link: www.powerlineblog.com...]

Well ignorance is strength to that lot.

That act on his part is on a practical level an act of treason.

30 Bobblehead  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:56:50am

re: #8 Macker

I have this gut feeling that, come the Demo☭ratic National Convention in Denver, Hillary will have something up her sleeve....

Yes, she's been uncharacteristically quiet. I picture her slowly spinning her web, waiting while Obama

31 lori lane  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:57:05am

re: #23 skippyMoment


I'm thinking about buying Jerome Corsi's new book, "The Obamanation." .

I bought it and started it late last night after LGF time! Get it, Lizards!

32 blastforth  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:57:05am

Query: If you vote against someone just because of his skin color, that's racist. But if you vote for someone just because of his skin color, what's that?

33 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:57:19am

re: #9 lawhawk

There's plenty of time for this latest gaffe to wear off. Most folks still aren't quite engaged in the process, but it is nice to see that the luster has already started to wear off Obama's hopey-changey nonsense.

It's also entertaining for the media to come around and report on this given that Obama's statements this week were nothing more than his stock stump speech he's given dozens of times in the past few months.

All of this still pales in comparison to the gift the Democrats have given the GOP on energy policy.

You want McCain to win in November (or at least keep Obama from winning)? Press home the issue of energy and that the Democrats chose for a paid vacation over doing their constitutionally mandated job to provide for the common welfare.

I'm envisioning ads that show what happened that day, with the lights being turned off, the microphones being turned off.

34 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:57:53am

re: #10 Right Brain

Read Powerline this morning: Obama sponsored (first thing we've found!) a bill in 2005 to prevent geologists from taking inventory of the offshore oil reserves. Not drill, not pump, not set up a rig, a bill to prevent an inventory.

Sen. McCain needs to run an ad slamming BHO for that.

35 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:58:18am

No matter how much Obama tries to control the debate every time he opens his mouth and issues another clarification or cries being attacked yet again the more people see him as a political lightweight who can't function off the cuff and away from a teleprompter.

36 lori lane  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:58:21am

re: #27 Macker

and re: #15 lori lane

Thanks to TextExpander!

Oh goodie. I love techie stuff. Thx! I'll check it out.

37 Bobblehead  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:58:23am

re: #30 Bobblehead

Yes, she's been uncharacteristically quiet. I picture her slowly spinning her web, waiting while Obama

gaffes his way to the convention.

38 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:58:41am

re: #19 lawhawk I sorta agree with you, but Obama really needs to expand that inner-city base - a lot. And ad's and gaffe's like those aren't gonna help him out in the middle of American (or with what may be a surprising amount of Urban voters, either).

39 doriangrey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:58:54am

re: #32 blastforth

Query: If you vote against someone just because of his skin color, that's racist. But if you vote for someone just because of his skin color, what's that?

Being an enlightened liberal/socialist/communist? Isn't that an oxymoron?

40 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:59:04am

re: #26 looking closely

Indeed- the big broo-ha-ha over this did nothing but cause curiosity. More people saw the ad, more people saw the "racist" label as BS, and more people saw the actual content of the ad- obama's energy policy. Overall- I think the whole flap by obama's camp harmed them more than it helped them.

41 laZardo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:59:18am

re: #8 Macker

I see what you did thar. =_o They allow symbols and unicode here now?

42 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:59:31am

re: #32 blastforth

Query: If you vote against someone just because of his skin color, that's racist. But if you vote for someone just because of his skin color, what's that?

Progressive!

43 skippyMoment  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:59:46am
blastforth

Query: If you vote against someone just because of his skin color, that's racist. But if you vote for someone just because of his skin color, what's that?

It's STUPID.

44 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:59:59am

re: #32 blastforth

racist

45 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:00:05am

Thanks for the HT, Charles.

I suspect this backlash must have the Obama camp and his media handlers panicking today.

46 Macker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:00:25am

re: #30 Bobblehead

Yes, she's been uncharacteristically quiet. I picture her slowly spinning her web, waiting while Obama

Bubble Bubble Toil and Trouble....

47 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:00:25am

re: #25 MandyManners

What's wrong with little girls?

They're not legal.

48 yma o hyd  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:00:29am

I'm beginning to have just a bit more confidence in the McCain campaign.
They've pulled the teeth of BO's racism card, in quite a funny and unagressive way, making him look a fool.
Once your adversary calls your arguments being cynical - you know you've hit home.
Good thing to keep the heavy political stuff for after Denver - people need to remember those arguments when they're in the polling booths.

Going too soon with heavy-duty politics can backfire, as we saw here in GB last autumn.
Gordon brown was thinking of going for an early election - and had his chancellor of the exchequer (thats finance) put Tory financial aims into his budget, which he 'd plundered from the Tory conference.
Thats why here the Tories are keeping their powder veeery dry!
McCain must do the same - lefties are devoid of ideas and will steal them where they can!

49 rwmofo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:00:46am

"On Saturday Obama backed off the racism charge and accused McCain’s campaign of cynicism instead."

McCain can make things right by only putting out pro-Obama campaign commercials. This postion has been approved by the NY Times.

/

50 laZardo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:00:48am

re: #32 blastforth

It's being RACSIT!!!11111oneoneone

51 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:00:51am

re: #47 The Other Les

They're not legal.

Sorry. Bad joke.

52 looking closely  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:01:22am

re: #32 blastforth

Query: If you vote against someone just because of his skin color, that's racist. But if you vote for someone just because of his skin color, what's that?

Its also racist, and you raise I point I've made here before.

To the extent that Obama's race has had ANY effect on the primaries and election so far, its only HELPED him. Ferraro had it right. Any white senator with Obama's razor thin CV and super-leftist record would have been eliminated from the Dem primary process early.

For Obama to imply that the electorate is racist by not supporting him (not that he has done this) would be purely hypocritical.

53 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:01:59am

re: #32 blastforth

Query: If you vote against someone just because of his skin color, that's racist. But if you vote for someone just because of his skin color, what's that?

Stupid.

54 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:02:02am

I will not vote for obambi cause he's white!

55 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:02:52am

re: #39 doriangrey

Being an enlightened liberal/socialist/communist? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Not to them.

56 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:03:02am

re: #32 blastforth
Obviously that's also racist. BUT - if I were a Black man I'd vote for Obama cause it's the first time EVER that a Black man (who supposedly understands me and my community as a Black Man) could become President. Yes it's still racist, but I think it's understandable.
Real question is why didn't women buy into Hillary's attempt to break the all male nature of the Presidency?

57 rwmofo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:03:05am

re: #8 Macker

I have this gut feeling that, come the Demo☭ratic National Convention in Denver, Hillary will have something up her sleeve....

I'm guessing that Bill Clinton will make an appearance there. Let's drink a shot every time he refers to himself.

58 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:03:11am

re: #52 looking closely

Also we must remember, Obama is THE poster child for affirmative action. He has mediocre grades and still made it into Harvard. He has gotten this far because he is black. If he was a white man it would have been over for him long ago.

59 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:03:51am

re: #58 bellamags

he HAD mediocre grades. pimf

60 skippyMoment  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:04:00am

#30 Bobblehead

Hillary's supports are most likely going to start a floor fight, especially if Obama keeps sliding in the polls. This won't help the Dems in any way, but they are so power-hungry, they won't much care... or more likely, that chaos is exactly what they'll want to make sure Obama and the dems lose so hillary can try gain in 2012 instead of having to wait maybe 16 years to try again: 8 for Obambi, 8 for his VP if there is a country left after the first 4 years of Obama.

61 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:04:05am

re: #33 MandyManners
"I'm envisioning ads that show what happened that day, with the lights being turned off, the microphones being turned off."

YES, YES, YES!

62 ironbill  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:04:37am

Obama: Any criticism of me is founded in racism

ironbill: Asshole, your largest campaign rally was in Berlin Germany

63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:04:51am

I am really cynical when it comes to Obama. How can one not be cynical when when it comes to Obama. He drew a big "C" target on himself, and continues to hone the bullseye...

64 laZardo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:05:22am

re: #52 looking closely

I unfortunately believe that this is something that my generation (i.e. the youngest demographic) are still very likely to excuse. If I know surveys, they take equal portions from each age bracket, so the "youth" brackets may be under-counted, as it were.

re: #54 pingjockey

That's raci- ...oh.

65 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:05:29am

re: #54 pingjockey

I will not vote for obambi cause he's white!

Too white...

[Okay, Les. Knock it off!]

66 skippyMoment  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:05:54am

#56 realwest

{realwest}

Most women didn't buy into it because some were already under the "change" spell, and some just don't like Hillary.

67 DoubleU  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:06:05am

I like it when he has to keep clarifying how clear his statements are.

68 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:06:10am

re: #61 realwest

"I'm envisioning ads that show what happened that day, with the lights being turned off, the microphones being turned off."

YES, YES, YES!

It could be a very strong image.

69 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:06:28am

re: #62 ironbill

Obama: Any criticism of me is founded in racism

ironbill: Asshole, your largest campaign rally was in Berlin Germany

LOL. great point. It is sad, but Hilter was almost successful with his race agenda.

70 libertexian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:06:31am

The ad should have included an image of Harry Belafonte. That would have been racist... yet amusing.

71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:06:37am

re: #67 DoubleU

I like it when he has to keep clarifying how clear his statements are.

"The Great Clarifyer"!

72 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:06:41am

re: #32 blastforth

It depends what the person's skin color is. If the candidate is Caucasian, that is still racist; if they are any other color that is perfectly acceptable.

73 blastforth  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:08:01am

re: #52 looking closely

Obama would, in my view, win a lot of credit if he gave a speech declaring that his candidacy proves that race is no longer a barrier to success in this nation. He cannot do that however without abandoning the politics of race upon which his career is based.

74 rwmofo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:08:41am

re: #62 ironbill

Obama: Any criticism of me is founded in racism

ironbill: Asshole, your largest campaign rally was in Berlin Germany

That "rally" was scheduled at the conclusion of a rock concert. The people would have been there anyway, even if BHO hadn't been there. The same thing happened at one of his appearances in Oregon.

75 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:08:45am

re: #73 blastforth

Didn't he come out against reparations recently?

76 Right Brain  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:08:51am

re: #58 bellamags

Its way more than getting into various schools:

1) He was the first president of the Harvard Law Review that never published a scholarly paper, before or after he was elected.

2) He held a professor level position at Univ of Chicago for twelve years without publishing a single piece of scholarship, how is this possible? The NY Times said the other Professors "published by the pound" in order to keep their positions.

3) In the Il State Legislature for years with leading on a single bill.

4) In the US Senate for three years without leading on a single bill.

77 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:08:51am

re: #60 skippyMoment
Hey, good to see you out here again! And I think you're correct - I just don't see Hillary quitting when she can make a great case about electability - she carried EVERY big electoral vote state (except for Obama's home state of Illinois) during the Dem Primaries and he keeps eating his foot on a daily basis - electability is what they are gonna push.

78 laZardo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:09:48am

re: #77 realwest

I'm not holding my breath that a Hillary VP nomination would heal the DP Rift though...

79 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:10:05am

What's even more amusing is the recent McCain ads are being done so cheaply, yet are the most effective.

The two most recent ones are devastating as they expose Obama as a lightweight, media-created fraud and they have the media freaking out over them.

80 american jewess in jerusalem  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:10:19am

re: #8 Macker

I have this gut feeling that, come the Demo☭ratic National Convention in Denver, Hillary will have something up her sleeve....

I yearn for Hillary.

81 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:10:21am

re: #76 Right Brain

yep. and his bitter wife still hates this country.

82 CynicalConservative  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:10:47am

re: #57 rwmofo

I'm guessing that Bill Clinton will make an appearance there. Let's drink a shot every time he refers to himself.

Wow, gonna get slammed pretty quick that way... (hic..hic...)

83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:10:53am

re: #75 bellamags

Didn't he come out against reparations recently?

Yes. And for them.

84 lori lane  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:11:02am

BBL, dear Lizards. Be good!

85 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:11:05am

re: #58 bellamags

Also we must remember, Obama is THE poster child for affirmative action. He has mediocre grades and still made it into Harvard. He has gotten this far because he is black. If he was a white man it would have been over for him long ago.

Well Harvard is pretty much a diploma mill for the well connected families on the Left.

The other side can whine all they want about John McCain being at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy but as a naval officer and as a military aviator he is used to thinking on his feet and performing the Boyd Cycle (the OODA loop; observe, orient, decide, act) constantly and as quickly as possible. Most Leftists can't even attempt to do without fouling it up badly. And when you look at rich Lefties such as the Kennedy clan it appears that they can't do it at all.

86 yma o hyd  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:11:21am

re: #76 Right Brain

Its way more than getting into various schools:

1) He was the first president of the Harvard Law Review that never published a scholarly paper, before or after he was elected.

2) He held a professor level position at Univ of Chicago for twelve years without publishing a single piece of scholarship, how is this possible? The NY Times said the other Professors "published by the pound" in order to keep their positions.

3) In the Il State Legislature for years with leading on a single bill.

4) In the US Senate for three years without leading on a single bill.

This long list of 'achievements' should have had several bells ringing loud and clear - One has to wonder from what stage in his 'career' he was groomed to become, in his immortal words, 'The Symbol' ...

87 ironbill  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:11:46am

re: #76 Right Brain

nutshell exposition on his glaring weaknesses

Bravo

(He did, however, manage to pump out 2 crappy books while in the Senate)

88 rw in san diego  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:11:52am

re: #75 bellamags

Yes and no.

89 rwmofo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:12:08am

re: #80 american jewess in jerusalem

I yearn for Hillary.

If Hillary speaks at the DNC, it could conceivably energize the left by pushing more of them to the polls under the notion that they're still NOT voting for Hillary.

90 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:12:10am

re: #75 bellamags
Was that before or after he WAS for reparations?!

91 lawhawk  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:12:13am

re: #76 Right Brain

Well, he did try to steal credit for work done on bills by other US Senators, much to their chagrin.

92 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:12:56am

re: #62 ironbill

Obama: Any criticism of me is founded in racism

ironbill: Asshole, your largest campaign rally was in Berlin Germany

All together now: Deutschland, Deutschland, uber alles!

93 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:13:03am

re: #68 MandyManners
Absolutely - I think it would be a VERY strong commercial if it was done properly. VERY STRONG!

94 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:14:04am

re: #67 DoubleU

I like it when he has to keep clarifying how clear his statements are.

It's so clear to me now...

95 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:14:13am

Charles Krauthammer's advice to John McCain: "When your opponent is committing suicide, GET OUT OF THE WAY!"

/or something like that...
//tfk mode off

96 SkippyMoment  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:14:16am

#77 realwest

I occasionally have time to post, but mostly you-know-who keeps me pretty busy on weekends.

The think is most people know that Hillary is power-hungry, and more and more people are coming to see that Obama as just another politician -- his faithful still have the scales on their eyes so they can't see the forest for the trees.

Basically, the dems will do anything to win -- cheat, lie, steal, cut the legs off their opponent's campaign, anything. Hillary can't be seen as the one pulling the strings on anything at the convention. She'll have to pretend to be against her backers' actions, but any speech she gives will end up coming back around to, "I'm ready, willing and able to step in if that is the wish of the people."

It will be interesting to watch.

97 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:14:41am

re: #79 JammieWearingFool Hey Jammie - I figure you must be back from the beach - great post and you deserve that hat tip!

98 Desert Dog  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:15:13am

Well, if some of you do not like BO's stance on a particular matter, fear not. He will eventually change it to one you like better. Of course, it will be fleeting and when the winds change, he will as well......He is like a weather vane. That is what happens when you have not spine, the winds move you around.

99 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:15:17am

re: #74 rwmofo

That "rally" was scheduled at the conclusion of a rock concert. The people would have been there anyway, even if BHO hadn't been there. The same thing happened at one of his appearances in Oregon.

Hitler didn't need a rock concert to fill out his rallies.

100 Dianna  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:15:24am

re: #75 bellamags

Only because he wouldn't be getting any.

101 yma o hyd  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:15:33am

re: #79 JammieWearingFool

What's even more amusing is the recent McCain ads are being done so cheaply, yet are the most effective.

The two most recent ones are devastating as they expose Obama as a lightweight, media-created fraud and they have the media freaking out over them.

Some quite web-savvy people in McCain's campaign - a very good mix of good old-fashioned electioneering (town hall meetings) and using modern technology all at once.

102 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:15:44am

re: #90 realwest

Jeez. Getting flashbacks of '04. BTW and OT - I remember someone on LGF a couple of weeks ago was suspicious of posters who have been registered for years with only a small amount of comments. I am one of those long time members with a small number of postings. I know why. I joined LGF after the memogate thing. After the election, I chilled out a while and didn't post for a long time. Now I'm back.

103 BignJames  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:16:02am

re: #94 The Other Les

Poor fella....nobody understands him...

104 LC LaWedgie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:16:11am

Seems the Associalated Press is ignoring this poll. Go figure.

105 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:16:11am

re: #95 littleoldlady
LOL! BTW, check your e-mail when you get a chance, please!

106 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:17:17am

Yahoo pic

What are the round things? Landmines?

107 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:17:24am

re: #32 blastforth

Query: If you vote against someone just because of his skin color, that's racist. But if you vote for someone just because of his skin color, what's that?

"b-f"

RACIST, that is all.

Now let's look at the "Dollar Bill" remark. In and of itself it is inconsequential and - Truthfully - somewhat humorous. It is the context that makes it worth discussing.

-S-

108 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:17:26am

re: #93 realwest

Absolutely - I think it would be a VERY strong commercial if it was done properly. VERY STRONG!

To use against the DNC in general or, against specific representatives in their races? Both?

109 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:17:28am

re: #76 Right Brain

Its way more than getting into various schools:

1) He was the first president of the Harvard Law Review that never published a scholarly paper, before or after he was elected.

2) He held a professor level position at Univ of Chicago for twelve years without publishing a single piece of scholarship, how is this possible? The NY Times said the other Professors "published by the pound" in order to keep their positions.

3) In the Il State Legislature for years with leading on a single bill.

4) In the US Senate for three years without leading on a single bill.

Either someone has been doing a lot of serious long term planning or a lot of people in positions of authority are being really stupid.

110 blastforth  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:17:40am

re: #75 bellamags

Didn't he come out against reparations recently?


That's a start. I want him to admit that "affirmative action" and set asides, etc., are also "divisive."

There's a lot about him I dislike, but if he has the guts to admit that racial equal opportunity been achieved, then he will show me he's not just a rank politician after all.

111 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:17:43am

re: #100 Dianna

There's that adorable squirrel! We have a feisty squirrel that lives in our oak trees. He actually charges at our Chihuahua. They play games. It is so cute.

112 Syrah  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:17:50am
Both campaigns expressed a desire to move beyond the recent flap. On Saturday Obama backed off the racism charge and accused McCain’s campaign of cynicism instead. He also rejected McCain’s charge that the Democrat himself had brought race into the campaign with his dollar bill comment.

Of course Obama wants to move away from the issue. It is a loser and it potentially exposes him to the examination of his radical extremist back ground and ties.

And of course the Republicans would like to move away from the issue too. It is their pattern. Get the other guy down on the mat, dazed and desperate, about to tap-out, and they "move away from the issue."

Grrrrr.

113 Desert Dog  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:18:11am

re: #102 bellamags

I am a long time lurker as well and post when I can. I was turned on to LGF after hearing Charles on Dennis Prager talking about "the Memo" as well. This is my very FAV website, it is one of my "Homepages" on Firefox

114 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:18:37am

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Ladyfinger cake

115 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:18:46am

re: #80 american jewess in jerusalem

I yearn for Hillary.

Have you considered seeking professional help for that?

116 laZardo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:19:13am

re: #107 Dr. Shalit

I just realized it cannot be "all about the Benjamins" when one wants their "Dead Presidents."

117 doriangrey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:19:45am

re: #109 The Other Les

Either someone has been doing a lot of serious long term planning or a lot of people in positions of authority are being really stupid.

Hmmmm, I'll take What is, people in positions of authority are being really stupid, for $1000 Alex.....

118 Dianna  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:19:50am

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Yahoo pic

What are the round things? Landmines?

I am told that those are anti-tank mines.

119 debutaunt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:20:22am

re: #53 The Other Les

Stupid.

Either way it's done, character is out of the equation.

120 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:20:22am

re: #108 MandyManners
I'd think certainly against the Dem's generally and certainly against Pelosi - and I'll wager that Obama kept his dismal attendance record intact.
But I really think it could help Republicans who - because Bush is in the WH - are apt to be blamed for the state of the economy and that ad could go a LONG way to dispel that.

121 ironbill  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:20:39am

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Yahoo pic

What are the round things? Landmines?

Key phrase in the caption is "About 30 pro-Fatah Palestinians who fled to Israel..."

122 Dianna  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:20:57am

re: #111 bellamags

Thank you, and I hope your chihuahua is quick! Squirrels can be very mean.

123 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:20:58am

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Yahoo pic

What are the round things? Landmines?

Looks like angel food cake to me.

124 Blackacre  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:21:21am
"They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?"

Don't worry, sweetie.FN1 We never believed your spokesliar, David Axelrod, anyway.
__________
FN1 "That's a bad habit of mine. I do it sometimes with all kinds of people. I mean no disrespect ...."

125 MandyManners  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:21:25am

re: #120 realwest

I'd think certainly against the Dem's generally and certainly against Pelosi - and I'll wager that Obama kept his dismal attendance record intact.
But I really think it could help Republicans who - because Bush is in the WH - are apt to be blamed for the state of the economy and that ad could go a LONG way to dispel that.

How many Republicans were there and how many stayed?

126 winston06  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:22:15am

Obama will lose in Nov

127 DistantThunder  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:22:16am

Top of the 9th - bases load....I know....Let's put in the Rookie Pitcher

yeah....that's the ticket!

Iran is pushing the situation to the brink....and the Rookie, Obama wants to invade Pakistan -

128 debutaunt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:23:01am

re: #56 realwest

Obviously that's also racist. BUT - if I were a Black man I'd vote for Obama cause it's the first time EVER that a Black man (who supposedly understands me and my community as a Black Man) could become President. Yes it's still racist, but I think it's understandable.
Real question is why didn't women buy into Hillary's attempt to break the all male nature of the Presidency?

Oh women would like to see a woman as president, just not that particular woman. Same goes for the black candidate running this time.

129 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:23:02am

re: #118 Dianna
That's what they appear to me to be too - anti-tank or at least anti-armored vehicle mines.

130 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:23:34am

re: #122 Dianna

He is and he is just as mean. We had a pet squirrel once. When she was a baby she was cute, but when she got older she became an ASS. She was vindictive and cunning. They are smart and can figure out ways to piss you off.

131 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:23:42am

re: #118 Dianna

Thanks, that would be my guess too.

132 littleoldlady  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:23:57am

re: #105 realwest

{realwest!} :-)

Replied.

133 Fritz_Katz  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:25:09am

re: #109 The Other Les

Either someone has been doing a lot of serious long term planning or a lot of people in positions of authority are being really stupid.

Both?!?

134 Tigger2005  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:25:12am

re: #69 bellamags

LOL. great point. It is sad, but Hilter was almost successful with his race agenda.

I'm surprised Obama didn't have his rally in Nuremburg.

135 DistantThunder  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:26:35am

I didn't know that Obama was a B student in high school, and did so poorly in his senior year, his grandmother was afraid he wouldn't get into college - but he did, on a full scholarship......Obama says he's for Affirmative Action.

"Meet your Affirmative Action Presidential nominee," is like saying, "Meet your Affirmative Action Brain Surgeon."

136 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:27:01am

re: #133 Fritz_Katz

Both?!?

I really would not be surprised if that were the case.

137 rwmofo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:27:11am

Did anyone see Senator Lieberman on FNS this morning advocating McCain? He was fairly energetic. The only downside was that you periodically had to hear Daschle's idiocy.

138 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:28:11am

re: #135 DistantThunder

YIKES. no way Jose. Speaking of Jose, does anyone else get pissed when there is a TV commercial in Spanish?

139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:28:14am

re: #135 DistantThunder

I told someone just yesterday that I came from the half of my senior class that made the top half possible.

140 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:28:21am

re: #48 yma o hyd

I'm beginning to have just a bit more confidence in the McCain campaign.

They've pulled the teeth of BO's racism card, in quite a funny and unagressive way, making him look a fool.

They gave Obama a chance to look like a fool, and he jumped at it. That is, the McCain campaign move worked, but it took Obama to complete it!

Obama just has nuthin', when it gets past teleprompter-land.

141 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:28:45am

re: #125 MandyManners
I'm not sure Mandy - iirc about 40 Repub's were there when Pelosi literally turned out the lights and turned off the mic's. Don't know how many stayed after that, because the Communist News Network stopped broadcasting it and you KNOW the MSM didn't really even mention it in passing. But an ad that had whomever the Repub's had speaking, then showing the lights going out and microphones shut off saying "Why didn't the Democrats stay to work on this CRITICAL aspect of our ECONOMY and even go so far as to SHUT OFF DISCUSSION, LIGHTS AND MICROPHONES - on an issue of such great economic importance to Americans everywhere" would have a nice effect.
Someone with better PR skills could improve that, a lot, I'm sure!

142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:29:01am

re: #138 bellamags

What are you watching? Telemundo?

143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:29:39am

re: #141 realwest

Not really. That was good.

144 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:29:41am

re: #140 itellu3times

Can't you just hear the McCain snicker? He is a smart man and he is just sitting back and waiting for the landslide.

145 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:29:41am

re: #137 rwmofo

Wait, wait, wait. People still call Daschel to get his opinion?

146 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:29:48am

re: #135 DistantThunder

I didn't know that Obama was a B student in high school, and did so poorly in his senior year, his grandmother was afraid he wouldn't get into college - but he did, on a full scholarship......Obama says he's for Affirmative Action.

"Meet your Affirmative Action Presidential nominee," is like saying, "Meet your Affirmative Action Brain Surgeon."

"Um... what's this squishy gray thing?"

147 CynicalConservative  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:29:49am

re: #138 bellamags

YIKES. no way Jose. Speaking of Jose, does anyone else get pissed when there is a TV commercial in Spanish?

Not directly, but my mute button gets quite a workout - commercials are far too insulting in general to be subjected to. That said, are you F'n kidding me? Sad day...

148 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:29:59am

re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Fox News this am. No kidding.

149 DistantThunder  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:02am

re: #140 itellu3times

They gave Obama a chance to look like a fool, and he jumped at it. That is, the McCain campaign move worked, but it took Obama to complete it!

Obama just has nuthin', when it gets past teleprompter-land.

Obama is a beta male for the first time up against the alphas and they are playing him like a fool. This is exactly what would happen to him on the world stage, with Dinnerjacket and Putin.

150 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:11am
151 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:13am

re: #127 DistantThunder
"Obama wants to invade Pakistan....which HAS nuclear warheads and the missiles with which to deliver them."
There, fixed that for ya!

152 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:22am

Good Late Morning Lizards! It's overcast and cool in the Outskirts of the Mall of America.

Haven't made it over there yet, but plan on spending a few GREEN Presidents before the day is over.

How are you-all? and what are we talking about?

153 debutaunt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:28am

re: #126 winston06

Obama will lose in Nov

Tah - Dah!

154 JammieWearingFool  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:29am

re: #97 realwest

Hey Jammie - I figure you must be back from the beach - great post and you deserve that hat tip!

Thanks. Came back last weekend. Was a rough week getting back in the swing of things.

155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:34am

re: #148 bellamags

Ugh.

156 razorbacker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:50am

re: #25 MandyManners

What's wrong with little girls?

Thank Heaven for little girls.

157 Syrah  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:58am

re: #141 realwest

I'm not sure Mandy - iirc about 40 Repub's were there when Pelosi literally turned out the lights and turned off the mic's. Don't know how many stayed after that, because the Communist News Network stopped broadcasting it and you KNOW the MSM didn't really even mention it in passing. But an ad that had whomever the Repub's had speaking, then showing the lights going out and microphones shut off saying "Why didn't the Democrats stay to work on this CRITICAL aspect of our ECONOMY and even go so far as to SHUT OFF DISCUSSION, LIGHTS AND MICROPHONES - on an issue of such great economic importance to Americans everywhere" would have a nice effect.
Someone with better PR skills could improve that, a lot, I'm sure!


Your script is perfect.
How I wish that the RNC had the nads to make such an ad.

158 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:31:17am

re: #147 CynicalConservative

Nope. I have seen a couple of them. One actually had Shrek and the donkey speaking in Spanish. I am going to assume the commercial was about the importance of exercise. Ad Counsel advertisement.

159 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:31:26am
160 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:31:46am

re: #137 rwmofo

Did anyone see Senator Lieberman on FNS this morning advocating McCain? He was fairly energetic. The only downside was that you periodically had to hear Daschle's idiocy.

"mo"-

Saw Sen. Joe on Meet the Press with Sen. Kerry on NBC. Joe holds his own pretty well. Wish he would have come back stronger on the "Windfall Profits" Horse Hockey though.

-S-

161 DistantThunder  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:31:47am

re: #146 The Other Les

"Um... what's this squishy gray thing?"

"D@mn...i wish I hadn't smoked so much week during that one semester when we studied the thing a ma jig."

162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:31:48am

re: #152 ggt

I said it earlier, but you weren't here to hear it...

I envy your nic.

163 debutaunt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:31:52am

re: #138 bellamags

YIKES. no way Jose. Speaking of Jose, does anyone else get pissed when there is a TV commercial in Spanish?

Que?

164 Desert Dog  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:32:16am

re: #141 realwest

Nancy Pelosi is, by far, the weakest, least prepared and least intelligent Speaker of the House that I have seen in my life time. She should retire and join with Al Gore to save the world on her own time and leave the legislative matters to people that actually understand what is going on.

165 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:32:47am

re: #150 buzzsawmonkey Hey buzz - as I said, someone with better PR skills than I posses could do a much better job - and you did!

166 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:33:00am

re: #138 bellamags

YIKES. no way Jose. Speaking of Jose, does anyone else get pissed when there is a TV commercial in Spanish?

Not when I'm in Whittier having eating an extraordinary pizza with the cousins of my first driver mentor. Why?

167 sattv4u2  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:33:05am

re: #163 debutaunt

Que?

si!

168 seekeroftruth  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:33:35am

re: #135 DistantThunder

I didn't know that Obama was a B student in high school, and did so poorly in his senior year, his grandmother was afraid he wouldn't get into college - but he did, on a full scholarship......Obama says he's for Affirmative Action.

"Meet your Affirmative Action Presidential nominee," is like saying, "Meet your Affirmative Action Brain Surgeon."

I haven't seen that info before. Do you have a link?

169 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:33:52am

re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You were talking about me while my computer was turned-off? What did you say? My nick?

And how is CV these days?

170 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:33:55am

re: #137 rwmofo

Did anyone see Senator Lieberman on FNS this morning advocating McCain? He was fairly energetic. The only downside was that you periodically had to hear Daschle's idiocy.

Yes, also heard Lindsey Graham on NBC (whatever channel, I was flipping them pretty good). Graham was also very animated, and effective, against, was it Kerry? No - you've got me confused! It was Lieberman / Kerry on Fox, and Graham / Daschle on NBC! It was Pelosi (cha-pooey!) on ABC.

171 mossley  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:34:17am

re: #7 reine.de.tout

People are plum tired of being told they are "racist" if they don't plan to vote for Obama.


I'm even hearing this from liberal people I work with. Some were Hillary supporters, and they are sick and tired of being accused of being racist for not supporting Obama from fellow Democrats.

172 reine.de.tout  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:34:28am

re: #141 realwest

I'm not sure Mandy - iirc about 40 Repub's were there when Pelosi literally turned out the lights and turned off the mic's. Don't know how many stayed after that, because the Communist News Network stopped broadcasting it and you KNOW the MSM didn't really even mention it in passing. But an ad that had whomever the Repub's had speaking, then showing the lights going out and microphones shut off saying "Why didn't the Democrats stay to work on this CRITICAL aspect of our ECONOMY and even go so far as to SHUT OFF DISCUSSION, LIGHTS AND MICROPHONES - on an issue of such great economic importance to Americans everywhere" would have a nice effect.
Someone with better PR skills could improve that, a lot, I'm sure!

Some actually were on their way to (or at) the airport, and returned, hauling luggage with them.

The broadcast stopped because Pelosi controls the cameras. But according to Michelle Malkin, John Culberson used something called "twitter" to keep people informed, and c-span linked to it.

173 yma o hyd  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:34:29am

re: #164 Desert Dog

Nancy Pelosi is, by far, the weakest, least prepared and least intelligent Speaker of the House that I have seen in my life time. She should retire and join with Al Gore to save the world on her own time and leave the legislative matters to people that actually understand what is going on.

Bbbbut - she a Woman, she got feeeelings, she's doing it for the children! And the Planet!

/Thats all you need to become speaker.

174 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:34:34am

re: #157 Syrah Why thank you! And thanks for the upding, too! LOL!

175 grumpy old codger  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:35:15am

Obambi has nuanced, reconfigured, restated and flip flopped so much on his "stands" that he makes JfingKerry's positions look as solid as the Rock of Gibraltar. Keep it going, Hussein!

176 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:35:28am

re: #160 Dr. Shalit

Reply to Self -

Also saw Tzipi Livni on CNN - she holds her own pretty well too. Told Wolf that she did not negotiate with commentators as regarded a question on Syria. Also, refreshingly, she answered "yes, I am" when asked if she wanted to be the next Israeli PM.

-S-

177 ErnieG  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:35:28am

re: #3 MandyManners

Pot? Meet Kettle.

Ooo! Ooo! A racist comment!

/sarc

178 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:35:42am

re: #164 Desert Dog

I'm trying to compose a mass email in my brain concerning the Whore of Babylon-by-the-Bay. I want to link zombie-time and give some people I know a close-up of a portion of her constitutency. Does anyone seriously think this woman would have the power she does had she run for election ANY where else in the country?

179 razorbacker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:35:44am

re: #159 buzzsawmonkey

That song sounds disturbingly pedophilc these days.

Doesn't it just. Kinda like how (male) people can't sit in a public park and watch kids play just for the simple pleasure of seeing kids play without being suspected of pedophilia nowadays.

180 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:36:09am

re: #165 realwest

Hey rw! How ya' doin'?

181 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:36:10am

re: #144 bellamags

Can't you just hear the McCain snicker? He is a smart man and he is just sitting back and waiting for the landslide.

He better not be.

He should be working his butt off to win this election. Our future as a civilization and as a species depends on it.

[Les doesn't believe that Humanity could recover from a socialist dark age and take it's proper place in the Universe.]

182 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:37:44am

re: #172 reine.de.tout
Hey, hi there - um what's a "twitter"?!

183 grumpy old codger  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:37:47am

re: #138 bellamags

YIKES. no way Jose. Speaking of Jose, does anyone else get pissed when there is a TV commercial in Spanish?

Si, siempre.......

184 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:37:51am

re: #156 razorbacker

Thank Heaven for little girls.

I thought that was funny when Hugh Hefner sang it on Saturday Night Live.

185 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:38:03am
186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:38:12am

re: #169 ggt

Something changed in LGF and now sometimes I have to log-off and back in. I just think GGT is easier to type than Fat Bastard Vegetarian.

187 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:38:14am

re: #145 Sharmuta
Little Tommy Daschel and Linsey Graham were on Chris Wallaces show on Fox this morning. I could smack little Tommy with a clue by four over and over and over again, Him and that Billy Mays asshat on all the goddamn commercials now.

188 rwmofo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:38:38am

re: #160 Dr. Shalit

"mo"-

Saw Sen. Joe on Meet the Press with Sen. Kerry on NBC. Joe holds his own pretty well. Wish he would have come back stronger on the "Windfall Profits" Horse Hockey though.

-S-

Ummm. Right. I had it backwards. I was changing between FNS and MTP. When Kerry started speaking I flipped (Ha!) over and when Daschle started speaking I'd go back.

189 ladycatnip  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:38:41am

Obama backs away from McCain's debate challenge.

#80 american jewess in jerusalem

I yearn for Hillary.

Same here. She may have wanted to be queen, but at least she didn't have stupid notions about being The One.

190 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:38:57am

re: #180 ggt Hey ggt! Still have toothache, but otherwise ok - LGF has lifted my spirits, once again!

191 reine.de.tout  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:39:35am

re: #182 realwest

Hey, hi there - um what's a "twitter"?!

Twitter is a free service that lets you keep in touch with people using the web, your phone, or IM.

Culberson was apparently using it to broadcast the events, and c-span linked to it.

192 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:39:52am

re: #187 pingjockey

I find that surprising- who knew Daschel was still valuable as a pundit?

193 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:40:05am

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I can see your point. My computer has that drop-down menu that holds my nic for me --as well has all the miss-typed nics I've attempted in the past. Anyway, it's even easier than typing my nic.

194 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:40:06am

re: #164 Desert Dog

Nancy Pelosi is, by far, the weakest, least prepared and least intelligent Speaker of the House that I have seen in my life time. She should retire and join with Al Gore to save the world on her own time and leave the legislative matters to people that actually understand what is going on.

It's time for these people to go home to their mommies and play with the little wooden blocks with the big letters on them and let the adults govern.

195 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:40:10am
196 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:40:56am

re: #164 Desert Dog

Nancy Pelosi is, by far, the weakest, least prepared and least intelligent Speaker of the House that I have seen in my life time. She should retire and join with Al Gore to save the world on her own time and leave the legislative matters to people that actually understand what is going on.

I watched her interview this morning, and recognized her personality as a certain type, I recently had to work with another just like that. She can be worked around, to some extent, but cannot be worked with. Funny, she as much as said so herself, and so did Stephanopoulos.

Gigundo mistake by the Dems to elect her, but then, she followed Tom Daschole, and couldn't really look a whole lot worse, by comparison, but insofar as it is possible, she's doing it!

197 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:41:11am

re: #192 Sharmuta
Depends on your definition of value. I would value a load of horseshit for my garden more than I'd value hearing little Tommy babble on.

198 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:41:35am

re: #58 bellamags

Also we must remember, Obama is THE poster child for affirmative action. He has mediocre grades and still made it into Harvard. He has gotten this far because he is black. If he was a white man it would have been over for him long ago.

Just curious . . . what's your source on this? I did a little searching for his Columbia grades and couldn't find anything. Would be interested to know where you learned about his undergrad grades.

199 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:42:01am

re: #173 yma o hyd

Bbbbut - she a Woman, she got feeeelings, she's doing it for the children! And the Planet!

/Thats all you need to become speaker.

And more than half the people in the room being dumber than you are.

;)

200 seekeroftruth  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:42:19am

re: #193 ggt

I can see your point. My computer has that drop-down menu that holds my nic for me --as well has all the miss-typed nics I've attempted in the past. Anyway, it's even easier than typing my nic.

LOL - I thought I was the only one! I just have to be sure click on the actual nic, not the misspellings.

201 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:42:27am

re: #187 pingjockey
GACK! ping, please don't even mention Billy Mays !
Thank gosh Charles doesn't have any commercials with him in them - or links to some with him in them! LOL!

202 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:43:18am

Breaking:Favre to be reinstated to Packers active roster.

203 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:43:23am

re: #181 The Other Les

He's not doing too bad considering the lovefest the MSM has for him.

204 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:43:51am

re: #201 realwest
That dude makes me want to shoot my tv.

205 loflyer  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:43:51am

re: #165 realwest

Hey buzz - as I said, someone with better PR skills than I posses could do a much better job - and you did!


Afternoon Real. I was thrilled to hear what a few Republicans did last Friday, usually the Repubs meekly slink away and say nothing over important issues that are dominated by liberal Democrats anxious to score points with the eco-freaks. The problem is that instead of 20 Republicans protesting it should of been at least 200 of them. Seems like the Republicans lost there way when Newt Gingrich left the house....

206 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:44:06am

re: #197 pingjockey

I guess it depends on FNS's definition of valuable. Was Daschel really the best they could come up with? Well- maybe it was.

207 Desert Dog  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:44:07am

re: #201 realwest

GACK! ping, please don't even mention Billy Mays !
Thank gosh Charles doesn't have any commercials with him in them - or links to some with him in them! LOL!

BUT wait! Order now and you will get two "Lame-o-matic 5000's", plus a lifetime supply of "Liquid Crapthatdontwork", but you have to order NOW!

208 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:44:12am

re: #197 pingjockey

Depends on your definition of value. I would value a load of horseshit for my garden more than I'd value hearing little Tommy babble on.

"ping" -

You have "Smell-O-Vision" too?

-S-

209 rwmofo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:44:26am

re: #196 itellu3times

My opinion is that they gave Pelosi the Speaker's position because it was "her turn" rather than for any accomplishments. We did that in '96 with Dole.

210 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:44:35am

re: #202 pingjockey

Breaking:Favre to be reinstated to Packers active roster.

WHOA!

211 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:44:39am

I keep remembering Pelosi holding a press-conference for the signing of some legislation. Her at at table with multilple pens and her acolytes standing around.

I thought,WTF, she isn't a signing of a treaty. Then she commented how people like to collect such things. Like, she thought the pens would be listed on e-bay by midnight.

WTF could the speaker-of-the-house be signing that could be so important? Nothing.

She tries to create power where none exists.

212 jas88  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:45:03am

re: #8 Macker

I have this gut feeling that, come the Demo☭ratic National Convention in Denver, Hillary will have something up her sleeve....

It's possible, but she's down to what, three weeks left? Obama's slipped a bit in the polls lately, but it's hard to imagine him falling apart in time for her to step in.

I suspect her aim right now is to see Obama nominated, crushed McGovern-style in November then welcome the party back with an unspoken motto of "I told you so"; after losing two elections by nominating fairly obscure Senators, going for someone with name recognition (even if it is her name!) should be a much more appealing choice for the party faithful.

Seriously, what do you think it would take to derail his campaign among Democrats in the space of three weeks, live footage of him eating puppies? A few months more gaffes and arrogant ignorance might be enough to cost him the support of the American public, but the support of hard-core leftists in three weeks? That's a tall order.

213 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:45:08am

re: #189 ladycatnip
From your link:
"We understand it might be beneath a worldwide celebrity of Barack Obama's magnitude to appear at town hall meetings alongside John McCain and directly answer questions from the American people, but we hope he'll reconsider," spokesman Brian Rogers said.

ZING! Love that response!

214 bellamags  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:45:12am

BBL

215 JimmyTheClaw  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:45:35am

re: #110 blastforth

That's a start. I want him to admit that "affirmative action" and set asides, etc., are also "divisive."

There's a lot about him I dislike, but if he has the guts to admit that racial equal opportunity been achieved, then he will show me he's not just a rank politician after all.

the day after he loses all 50 states in the general election

216 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:45:42am
217 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:45:57am

re: #200 seekeroftruth

I wish I could figure out how to delete those mis-nics. Somewhere in the list is my password --as I typed to fast and didn't realize I was in the wrong box.

218 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:46:00am

re: #206 Sharmuta
Exactly. Does Tommy have any relevance to the campaign? Is he an advisor to the DNC? Just what standing does he have to be a talking head? Other than the fact he has a functioning life support system for his mouth?

219 razorbacker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:46:30am

re: #189 ladycatnip

Obama backs away from McCain's debate challenge.

Same here. She may have wanted to be queen, but at least she didn't have stupid notions about being The One.

Obama may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he (or his handlers) seem to realize that the prospect of actually debating someone who, for all his many shortcomings, actually has a lifetime of experience and has actually suffered in the service of his country will not bode well for the Obamanation.

Best he stick to those 'debates' where the questions are given out beforehand so that the brain-trust can assemble the needed quotable lines.

220 loflyer  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:46:38am

re: #202 pingjockey

Breaking:Favre to be reinstated to Packers active roster.

I thought they offered him 20 million to retire?

221 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:46:39am
222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:46:41am

re: #207 Desert Dog

Hey, I bought some Liquid Crapthatdontwork! Love it.

It's a floor cleaner! It's a desert topping!

223 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:46:42am

re: #203 bellamags

He's not doing too bad considering the lovefest the MSM has for him.

We shouldn't be doing victory laps yet. Thomas Dewey did that when he ran against Harry Truman. Didn't work.

224 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:46:56am

re: #208 Dr. Shalit
Hahahahaha! If any donk other than Zell Miller is talking I know exactly what it smells like! Don't you?!

225 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:47:20am
226 rwmofo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:47:48am

re: #202 pingjockey

Breaking:Favre to be reinstated to Packers active roster.

I don't have anything against Favre, but will suggest that his skills are probably heading downhill and this may show up if he plays. I could be wrong.

227 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:48:23am

re: #220 loflyer
They did. Wish someone would offer me 20 mill to stay home!

228 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:49:46am

re: #211 ggt

She tries to create power where none exists.

Yep, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. Also not respecting anything other than her own opinions, of the moment.

Stephanopoulos was hitting her pretty hard for not living up to what she said in her own book - but then, in all fairness, maybe she hasn't read it yet!

229 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:49:49am

going up?----->

230 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:49:53am
231 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:49:57am

re: #205 loflyer
Hey there loflyer! Yeah, but I think the Repub's didn't realize until it was too late that the recess would or could be used as fodder by them.
I blame, in order, the House Minority leader and the head of the RNC for that little screw up.
Still and all, more than 20 Repub's stayed and the advertisement would still be true - Republicans were willing to put off the recess until they did their duty to help the American People; the Democrats just wanted go home for vacation.

232 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:49:58am

re: #224 pingjockey

Hahahahaha! If any donk other than Zell Miller is talking I know exactly what it smells like! Don't you?!

"ping" -

Sure do, used to be a "POOP-Shoveler" First Class back in the day. As I have aged, my sense of smell has improved.

-S-

233 ErnieG  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:50:04am

re: #41 laZardo

I see what you did thar. =_o They allow symbols and unicode here now?

The HTML code for ☭ is ☭

Google on HTML dingbats for more.

234 ladycatnip  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:50:09am

#164 Desert Dog

re: #141 realwest

Nancy Pelosi is, by far, the weakest, least prepared and least intelligent Speaker of the House that I have seen in my life time. She should retire and join with Al Gore to save the world on her own time and leave the legislative matters to people that actually understand what is going on.

Nancy Pelosi is the homecoming queen on the Hill. "They like me! They really, really like me!"

Her new purpose in life is to save the planet.

235 docremulac  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:51:21am

He decided to suck his thumb and cuddle the security blanket of black victimhood instead of acting like a leader. Oh well.

236 loflyer  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:51:36am

re: #227 pingjockey

They did. Wish someone would offer me 20 mill to stay home!

I know what you mean, especially at 37 years old. Looking forward to the college football, my Georgia Bulldogs are ranked number one so they will probably finish in the cellar!

237 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:52:54am

re: #190 realwest

Sorry about the teef. My back hurts from driving and hotel beds. So, I can empathize.

I'm no longer made for travelling.

238 Josephine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:53:13am

re: #56 realwest

Obviously that's also racist. BUT - if I were a Black man I'd vote for Obama cause it's the first time EVER that a Black man (who supposedly understands me and my community as a Black Man) could become President. Yes it's still racist, but I think it's understandable.

Hi, realwest. I hope you are feeling well today.

Your comment reminded me of a recent experience.

I wouldn't excuse any racism as "understandable".

I recently listened in on a conversation here in Canada. Two white men and one Chinese man were talking.

The Chinese man said, "I love my neighbourhood: it's all Chinese. I walk out of my door and I only see Chinese people... My son's school is great: it is mostly Chinese. There is one black boy and one or two white boys, that is all. It is very good to live in an all-Chinese community."

The conversation then moved on to how the Chinese are superior in study habits, etc.

While it is understandable that people like to be around people who are similar to themselves in some way (race, culture, religion, socioeconomic class), I wanted to ask that man why he was racist against non-Chinese people. I wanted to ask the other two men why they nodded and agreed with every word the Chinese man said, even when it denigrated people from their own ethnic group.

I also wanted to turn that conversation around: what if a white person had said that about his neighbourhood? Imagine me saying: My daughter's school is great, because it's mostly white: there's only one black and two Chinese students. I prefer my neighbourhood because it is all white of British descent: when I leave my house in the morning, I only see white, British people and I love it.

It sometimes seems it is only racist when white people say it but I don't agree with racism from any group.

239 JimmyTheClaw  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:53:29am

re: #178 ggt

I'm trying to compose a mass email in my brain concerning the Whore of Babylon-by-the-Bay. I want to link zombie-time and give some people I know a close-up of a portion of her constitutency. Does anyone seriously think this woman would have the power she does had she run for election ANY where else in the country?

use some work safe pictures then add links with a few comments snark works well to get it circulated chain letter style

240 rwmofo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:54:58am

re: #221 ploome hineni

..anyone see George Stphenopoulos on TV this am, saying 'race was THE factor'?

considering Obama as a candidate

race is the least of his problems

Obama has problems with honesty, integrity
experience
associates
the rev Wright
Edward Said
Ayers

and I am sure everyone can add onto this list

...but the MSM will take off their masks and do everything they possibly can to win this for Obama.

241 ggt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:55:30am

re: #239 JimmyTheClaw

I was going to link to zombietime with a warning that it wasn't work or kid safe. I don't know. It all sounds like "work". I do think zombie's work needs to be seen by more people.

242 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:56:04am

re: #212 jas88 Well ya know Obama was speaking somewhere just the other day and was being "heckled" by......Black folks in the back row over why, as a US Senator,
hasn't he done more to support Blacks! And as usual when working without a prepared text, he fumbled and bumbled that situation. Seems to me that one more gaffes from him, and one or two more "demonstrations" of possible opposition to him from Black Democrats (can you say Jesse Jackson - I knew you could!) could be enough to raise the electibility issue and Hillary has some serious cards to play there.
And the superdelegates don't cast their vote nor are they bound to any statements of support until the actual convention.

243 anna  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:56:21am

If Sen. Barack Obama [D-IL] had merely said the ad was a puff character attack, all memory of the ad would have vanished down the memory hole. But he had to pull the pin on the race card grenade and it looks like it was instead a Claymore aimed at the Obama campaign. Whoops.

If he is nominated in Denver still, it would be amusing if the only areas Obama wins are highly dense inner city areas in November.

244 Colonel Panik  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:57:08am

re: #8 Macker

I have this gut feeling that, come the Demo☭ratic National Convention in Denver, Hillary will have something up her sleeve....

Yeah. A dirk.

245 yma o hyd  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:58:00am

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey, I bought some Liquid Crapthatdontwork! Love it.

It's a floor cleaner! It's a desert topping!

But why would anyone want to top the desert?

/Couldn't resist!

246 ciceroskip  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:59:10am

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull sh$tre: #230 ploome hineni

Obama's strength is in his style of speaking

not in anything he has to say, because when you read and analyze what he has said

it does not make sense

247 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:59:55am

re: #238 Josephine
Didn't say I agreed with it, but that I understood it.

248 DistantThunder  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:00:26am

I think Obama is running scared. The next set of commercials should be about Obama being afraid to hold more debates with McCain.

"Why is he afraid?"

Call the series of commericals "The Rookie"

249 Cato  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:01:59am

I am calling the election now:

McCain will beat Obama by a 9% to 14% range in the popular vote. The electoral college vote will be closer, but McCain will win pull out an upset in at least one large state thought to be leaning Obama.

In an election between two liberals, the one who actually loves his country will prevail.

250 eric  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:02:54am

re: #8 Macker

I have this gut feeling that, come the Demo☭ratic National Convention in Denver, Hillary will have something up her sleeve....

I agree with this. While it may be wishful thinking and some friends state this is crazy, I think Hilary just might pull a stunt in Denver. It would make for great political theatre is just so...Clintonesque

251 Occasional Reader  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:03:03am

Howdy folks.

A beautiful day here in Our Nation's Capital; unfortunately I'm still hung up with a stubborn cough and feeling somewhat crummy, so I can't take advantage of it. So, here I am at the keyboard.

It occurred to me; Obama seems to think he can say "the sky is green"; then when he gets called on it, say "I have always, consistently said that the sky is blue"; and that somehow, no one will notice.

With that in mind, I'm suggesting a new Obama campaign slogan:


We aren't the 'droids we've been looking for.

252 ladycatnip  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:04:22am

#219 razorbacker

Best he stick to those 'debates' where the questions are given out beforehand so that the brain-trust can assemble the needed quotable lines.

And even those brain-trust people can only take quotes from other people. Being arrogant has its upside: they actually think no one will notice.

Love to have a linguist's take on his cadence and structure; how he speaks in cliches and declarative sentences, using lofty meaningless words.

253 DistantThunder  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:05:37am

re: #251 Occasional Reader

Howdy folks.

A beautiful day here in Our Nation's Capital; unfortunately I'm still hung up with a stubborn cough and feeling somewhat crummy, so I can't take advantage of it. So, here I am at the keyboard.

It occurred to me; Obama seems to think he can say "the sky is green"; then when he gets called on it, say "I have always, consistently said that the sky is blue"; and that somehow, no one will notice.

With that in mind, I'm suggesting a new Obama campaign slogan:


We aren't the 'droids we've been looking for.

You need sunshine - Vitamin D which has been shown to boost immunity and fight off infections.

254 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:06:24am

re: #219 razorbacker


Best he stick to those 'debates' where the questions are given out beforehand so that the brain-trust can assemble the needed quotable lines.

I don't think the questions are given out in advance, razor. If they were, I think the answers would be a little beter.

255 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:07:12am

re: #254 JustMyView

I don't think the questions are given out in advance, razor. If they were, I think the answers would be a little beter.

Whoops! a little better. PIMF

256 razorbacker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:10:51am

Gonna be a long afternoon.

Wife doesn't want to do anything, just veg out before the tube (she works hard, I don't begrudge her).

She hates to hear cursing and blasphemy, so I can't work on the bathroom.

No interesting sporting events on the tube.

Close to triple digits outside; being neither a mad dog nor an Englishman I'm not going out.

Obama bores me. ID vs. Evo bores me. Hell, I bore me.

Maybe I'll ride down to Thompson's Cut and watch the pretty girls play in the White River. But, truth be told, even that bores me.

Guess I'll go out to the garage and putter. Maybe work on that better mousetrap. Naw, who wants the world beating a path to their door?

This must be why they invented liquor.

257 Josephine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:12:08am

re: #247 realwest

Yes, I understood. That's why I said your comment reminded me of my recent experience.

258 lori lane  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:12:51am

The Twitter link is here.

259 spaceman  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:13:39am

re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I told someone just yesterday that I came from the half of my senior class that made the top half possible.

Enabler.

260 Steffan  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:13:42am

re: #4 Right Brain

It wasn't racist at all, but it could be called sexist because the intent was to make him out to be a little girl.

No, they tried to make him out to be a little white girl.

It's a wonder no one's picked up the connection to Michael Jackson.

/....

261 Optimizer  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:15:41am

re: #1 Sharmuta

The American people are not a gullible as obama thought we were.

True, but that's apparently not saying much. 22% thought it racist? That's ridiculous! It's ridiculous that it's enough of an issue for somebody to pay to take a poll on it.

These 22% must be the same sort as the ignorant, jerky black local legislator I saw a clip of the other day. He demand an apology from a white colleauge for using the term "black hole" to describe a budget item that they just kept throwing money at, without ever getting any positive results. The term "black hole" is "racist", after all...

22% is a LOT of stupid, ignorant race-baiters and partisan hacks. WAY too many.

262 eaglewingz08  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:22:29am

So when the Obamanation claimed that no one in his audiences or the public attributed racism to his statements, the ONE told a lie (given that he is the Messiah and knows the minds of everyone in his audience and the public, given that fifty three percent do believe he was injecting racism in his statements. This is a big deal because it shows that the US public is getting other sources of information than the LLLMSM and its attempt to control the debate on libsocialist terms. Thanks Gore for the internet. heehee. Thanks Rush for twenty years in valiant battle against the liberoid beasts. These comments by the Obamantion will not help him win over the general public. The fun part is that Axelrod is in the middle of this firestorm and he could no more toss Axelrod under the bus that he could toss himself. One wonders if there are a couple of more weeks of this, and the Obamanation's poll numbers actually plummet under McCain's, whether the uncommitted superdelegates will form a draft Hillary committee for the convention? Dreams.
Ah life is beginning to become sweet again.

263 pegcity  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:24:48am

re: #262 eaglewingz08

he likes the use the royal WE, just like all liberals he speaks for all.

264 lori lane  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:26:14am

re: #137 rwmofo

Did anyone see Senator Lieberman on FNS this morning advocating McCain?


I caught bits & pieces of it but will listen to the podcast later. Did anyone think that Joe has had cosmetic surgery?...

265 Optimizer  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:26:49am

re: #10 Right Brain

Read Powerline this morning: Obama sponsored (first thing we've found!) a bill in 2005 to prevent geologists from taking inventory of the offshore oil reserves. Not drill, not pump, not set up a rig, a bill to prevent an inventory.

I think there was some discussion on this blog (that I missed jumping in on) about BHO filp-flopping on the offshore drilling issue.

I have to take what is probably an unpopular view here, and say that there really was no flip-flop on this. He has always been against offshore drilling, and remains so. It's that simple.

The confusion comes from his attempt to try to placate potential fence-sitters who are angry about high prices at the pump. All he said, if I recall correctly, was that he would consider compromising on the issue, if certain vaguely-specified conditions were met.

You'd have to be a sucker to fall for that line. If he was ever in the position to be called on it, he would simply claim that his conditions had not been met. He would NOT OK offshore drilling, and has said as much - you just have to read the fine print.

266 Occasional Reader  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:29:13am

re: #253 DistantThunder

You need sunshine - Vitamin D which has been shown to boost immunity and fight off infections.

Thanks. I'm out on the patio now, heading to the pool deck a little later, for just that reason.

267 debutaunt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:29:42am

re: #202 pingjockey

Breaking:Favre to be reinstated to Packers active roster.



More breaking news - I still believe he doesn't know how to pronounce his name.

268 jjag  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:30:43am

Instead of asking "Would a white person with O's "achievements" ever be considered presidential material?" why not ask "Would an Asian American?"

Would anyone ever imagine saying "No", in the case of an Asian American, being interpreted as a "racist" response?

The issue isn't race. The issue is a candidate for president has no accomplishments or significant leadership experience that could reasonably be interpreted as "presidential" material.

269 AuntAcid  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:32:14am

Didn't Barry O early on play drums for the Beatles or do I have him mixed up with someone else?

270 Benschachar  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:32:52am

In related news: studies show that 22% of voter are on acid. More at eleven.

271 doriangrey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:33:03am

re: #269 AuntAcid

Didn't Barry O early on play drums for the Beatles or do I have him mixed up with someone else?

I believe that was Kim Jong Il.....

272 doriangrey  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:33:31am

re: #270 Benschachar

In related news: studies show that 22% of voter are on acid. More at eleven.

And another 40 percent are bat shit insane...

273 pegcity  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:35:35am

"After the space shuttle shuts down in 2010"

Where did Obama learn to speak english, i swear he sounds like he's speaking ebonics half the time.

274 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:43:48am

Has anyone photoshopped Obama onto a $3 bill?

275 1madpittbull  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:44:38am

Listen to me...my comments have NOTHING to do with race, or race in America. If you look at them that way then you, yourself must be racist...and because you are racist you know that your racist bias must be viewed with the inherent bias that all racists who contemplate voting for the GOP are...racists simply because ipso facto, I say so, and if I, the ONE say so then MY will must be done. And if it is not done to my kind of group think, you are racist.

Now that I've addressed your problems with my comments, let me remind you that I NEVER talk about race.

But as a Black man, let me tell you what my pastor told me, he said...

/ Just channeling the logic of the Obama campaign in my post.

276 Steffan  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:45:43am

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Yahoo pic

What are the round things? Landmines?

Exactly. You'll note they're sand-colored so as not to be noticeable if they get partially uncovered (which does happen).

There's a faction of moonbats who are trying to get them banned. IIRC, Princess Diana was a celebrity leader of this group. Most countries that use them, including the US, won't sign on to any such agreement because the things are too useful for area denial in places like the Korean DMZ.

Rommel had six million of them along the Normandy coast shortly before D-Day. He wanted 60 million of them planted, but ran out of time.

The main problem with mines is that a lot of the countries that use them don't bother mapping the minefields, making it an adventure for the unwary. Last I heard, they were still clearing Soviet mines from Afghanistan.

I've got five bucks says Hamas and Fatah don't map their minefields.

277 Optimizer  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:47:18am

re: #37 Bobblehead

gaffes his way to the convention.

If we're REALLY lucky, McCain's new initiative to highlight the absurdity of "The One" phenomenon will pay dividends at the Dems convention. By then, the absurd narcissism of the acceptance speech event might come off as a real embarrassment for them. The seeds are being sown...

278 OnTheRightSide  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:51:35am

22% think the celeb ad is racist? I don't think they were watching the same ad.

279 Occasional Reader  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:53:34am

re: #278 OnTheRightSide

22% think the celeb ad is racist? I don't think they were watching the same ad.

I think that number's low enough to represent the hard-core moonbats, who will see "racism" in ANYTHING critical of their Messiah. I'm pleasantly surprised the figure wasn't higher.

280 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:53:57am

re: #115 The Other Les

Have you considered seeking professional help for that?

LOL!

I just mean that Obama is so damn frightening, Hillary looks safe by comparison.

281 Steffan  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:58:48am

re: #212 jas88

Seriously, what do you think it would take to derail his campaign among Democrats in the space of three weeks, live footage of him eating puppies? A few months more gaffes and arrogant ignorance might be enough to cost him the support of the American public, but the support of hard-core leftists in three weeks? That's a tall order.

Obama's taking care of that little detail himself. Some of the bigger-name leftys sent him an open letter telling him, "Get back with the program, jerk." Or words to that effect.

Even DU inmates are beginning to be disenchanted with The One. We may be looking at a revolt in Denver.

I'll bring popcorn.

282 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:59:59am

re: #7 reine.de.tout

True, and it's not just that he has little experience, it's the fact that he's a such a big time statist who will reduce our freedoms here and weaken us against our enemies abroad. This will translate into a worse life for Americans in general. I realize some people actually think that's good, but we aren't living in Nazi Germany or Communist Russia, so I reject the idea that citizens are sacrificial beings for the state. A man is sovereign over his life.

It's as if ideas aren't important to leftists. Freedom is a side issue with them. Well, it's the essence of proper government, not a side issue.

283 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:11:01am

OT - HEY all y'all - just thought I'd let you know that after I left LGF for lunch I ran my usual Spyware Doctor and my Norton Internet Anti-Virus.
Spyware Doctor didn't pick up anything but some low level bs which I wiped out.
Norton, however, picked up some infection called
"SecureExpertCleaner" which Norton classified as a Medium Threat. initial rapid release version July 28th, latest daily certified version August 2nd.
After scaring me half to death with a lot of gibberish tech language about removing it by disabling System Restore etc etc, I notice a little bitty button that said "delete infection" which I hit, and voila it was gone.
I have however updated virus def's and am now scanning all drives to verify it's gone.
According to Norton this was manually downloaded from SecureExpertCleaner.com which I know was NOT done by me and I'm the only one with access to this computer.
Anyone out there have any thoughts about this?

284 neocon hippie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:11:35am

No matter how bleak the outlook becomes for Obummer, there's no way the superdelegates will yank him and substitute Hillary. They can't risk the unrest that would cause, plus losing the black vote for decades ahead. The powers that be in the Dems would rather lose this election than damage their standing in the years to come.

285 pegcity  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:12:30am

re: #282 Archimedes

YOU WILL SACRIFICE FOR OBAMA, MICHELLE WILL SEE TO IT.

you have been warned, next time its off to re education for you.

286 pegcity  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:13:37am

re: #283 realwest

sounds like spyware, i wouldn't worry too much about it.

287 AuntAcid  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:16:56am

re: #271 doriangrey

I believe that was Kim Jong Il.....

Then who was that little guy with the Jackson Five?

288 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:19:15am

re: #286 pegcity Thank you kindly - it was just the idea that the sucker had been maually downloaded that got to me - cause I KNOW I didn't download any such thing!

289 ErnieG  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:20:01am

re: #278 OnTheRightSide

22% think the celeb ad is racist? I don't think they were watching the same ad.

That's about the same number who think Elvis is alive.

290 Ojoe  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:27:07am

All hail Obama! Hail to thee, Thane of Glamis!

All hail Obama! Hail to thee, Thane of Cawdor!

All hail Obama, that shalt be POTUS hereafter!

291 vagabond trader  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:28:41am

Oh ,now that's the ultimate in cognitive dissonance, McCain is the cynical one. The Obama can barely choke out the words America/USA without pointing out our faults, stupidity, bitterness, racism,wastefulness, et al. Sorry if this obvious point has already been mentioned.

292 Ojoe  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:29:46am

re: #291 vagabond trader

Mention it more, it will cost Obama the elelction.

293 Omachka  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:30:54am

re: #172 reine.de.tout

Some actually were on their way to (or at) the airport, and returned, hauling luggage with them.

The broadcast stopped because Pelosi controls the cameras. But according to Michelle Malkin, John Culberson used something called "twitter" to keep people informed, and c-span linked to it.

This article tells the whole story and has links to all the Twitter and Qik cell phone vids that were done that day. History in the making and very interesting!

294 debutaunt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:31:14am

re: #278 OnTheRightSide

22% think the celeb ad is racist? I don't think they were watching the same ad.

23% aren't exactly sure what racism means.

295 faraway  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:33:43am

re: #127 DistantThunder

Top of the 9th - bases load....I know....Let's put in the Rookie Pitcher

yeah....that's the ticket!

Iran is pushing the situation to the brink....and the Rookie, Obama wants to invade Pakistan -

Obama is worse than a rookie, he just got drafted out of a small high school and never played in the minors.

296 vagabond trader  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:35:48am

Hey Obama, you know what we clinging TWPs think is racist and full of bigotry? Your membership in a black liberation-supremecist church for nearly twenty years, and denials that you never heard anything offensive.

297 faraway  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:38:52am

McCain: I would rather lose an election than lose a war.

Obama: I would rather disown by church and my white granny, than lose a campaign.

298 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:49:08am

re: #274 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Has anyone photoshopped Obama onto a $3 bill?

There is a Michael Ramirez cartoon. Mandy Manners linked to it last night.

Here it is:
[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

299 avspatti  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:50:11am

re: #58 bellamags

Also we must remember, Obama is THE poster child for affirmative action. He has mediocre grades and still made it into Harvard. He has gotten this far because he is black. If he was a white man it would have been over for him long ago.

An O backer told me that O was at the top of his class at Harvard. Anyone know if that is true?

300 avspatti  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:53:04am

re: #61 realwest

"I'm envisioning ads that show what happened that day, with the lights being turned off, the microphones being turned off."

YES, YES, YES!

Does the McCain campaign office have a suggestion box? Not entirely kidding.

301 J.S.  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:57:16am

There was a stat from CNN (yeah, yeah, I know -- it's CNN), anywho, if you look at the positive poll numbers for the Obamanation...and then factor in "from which states in the U.S."...it's this landslide of support for the Obamanation coming from the State of California...in other words, it's messing with the data...(California is an outlier -- screws up, skews, the poll numbers...) Sooo, if you factor out California, you find that the political race is at a near dead heat...the Obamanation and McCain are neck and neck...

302 wanderer  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:58:01am

Many here are saying that Ninny Pelosi is the dimmest bulb to hold the speakership of the house in memory. I distictively remember another dimocrat dolt that held the position not so long ago; Tip O'Neill of South Boston. Porcine O' Neill was so stupid that he could not pronounce the name Deng Hsiao Peng-the head, China's premier and Communist Party boss as the thick tongued O'Neill was being introduced to him while they were posing on the Great Wall for a photo op despite O'Neill's aides and minders clearly and repeatedly telling him the Chinese premier's not difficult to pronounce name.
Ninny Pelousy is the currently perfect rerun of a long line of dim-witted pols to hold the speakership of the House of Representatives.
Government is the problem not the solution and San Fran Ninny is a significant component in our country's currently dysfunctional government.

303 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:59:38am

If Obama gets the ax then we want it to be after the dem convention riot bacchanal orgy, and within a month of the election, making it so very much harder for them to field anything that even resembles a candidate.

304 avspatti  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 12:23:31pm

re: #179 razorbacker

Doesn't it just. Kinda like how (male) people can't sit in a public park and watch kids play just for the simple pleasure of seeing kids play without being suspected of pedophilia nowadays.

Our innocence has long gone away. Sad.

305 so.cal.swede  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 12:24:16pm

the dollar bill comment was not racist.

I hate when people try to diminish the meaning of racist. It's been a huge priority of leftists liberals and victocrats to make the dreaded word racist applicable in all kinds of situations. Why? because being branded racist is a mark of death. if comparing BO to celebretards like hilton and spears is racist.... then what's next? if BOs comments were racist? then what's next?

Racist: Believing that your race is superior, or that another is inferior. Lets leave it at that, shall we?


that being said: BO is a race baiter of the first degree. Maybe Jesse Jackson want's to caress his nuts now instead?

306 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 12:32:41pm

re: #299 avspatti

An O backer told me that O was at the top of his class at Harvard. Anyone know if that is true?

Yes. He graduated magna cum laude and was president of the Harvard Law Review. Many references documenting this online. If you're interested in more details or in the kinds of stories people who knew him then tell, google "obama harvard record".

307 avspatti  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 12:56:45pm

re: #281 Steffan

Obama's taking care of that little detail himself. Some of the bigger-name leftys sent him an open letter telling him, "Get back with the program, jerk." Or words to that effect.

Even DU inmates are beginning to be disenchanted with The One. We may be looking at a revolt in Denver.

I'll bring popcorn.

Shall we have a lizard meet -up? Count me in.

308 nonic  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:18:51pm

Bob Herbert in the NY Times explains why the Paris Hilton ad is racist.

Apparently, it's because if you show a white woman when you're talking about a black man, you are clearly playing into and stirring up the typical white prejudice of fearing black men having sex with white women.

Uh-huh.

Personally, I think Bob Herbert must have a hell of a dirty mind if that's his first response.

309 Shay4l  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:19:04pm

Wow, you sure had that Nobama info at your fingertips. Maybe you're just a Nobama plant here at LGF.

Now link us to something he published in the Harvard Law Review so we can get an idea of his thinking.

Thanks!

310 Shr_Nfr  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:21:18pm

re: #307 avspatti

The Democratic Convention in Denver is revolting by definition. Not because they are Democrats, but because it is still a backroom party boss led effort.

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In any case the latest from the BO spokes purple (sic) is that "We resent the comparison with Spears and Hilton. Both these women are people of substance, the only thing that BO does with substance is to smoke it."

311 Shr_Nfr  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:24:16pm

re: #308 nonic

Yet one more reason why the NYT subscriptions keep going down. This guy couldn't figure out how to get out of a paper bag with both ends open.

312 Shr_Nfr  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:30:35pm

re: #73 blastforth

Besides Michelle would divorce him. Her whole life is based on race based victim hood.

313 HDrepub  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:31:19pm

re: #306 JustMyView

Yes. He graduated magna cum laude and was president of the Harvard Law Review. Many references documenting this online. If you're interested in more details or in the kinds of stories people who knew him then tell, google "obama harvard record".

I think we all know how to use Google JMV. Only thing is I don't find Obama at the top of his class since that would be in the summa cum laude degree category. He was in the top 10% of his law school class perhaps but to say he was at the top is stretching it some.

314 nonic  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:32:56pm

New York Times: Teaching Law, Testing Ideas, Obama Stood Slightly Apart

As a part-time teacher:

While most colleagues published by the pound, he never completed a single work of legal scholarship.

As president of the law review, usually (if not always) people ON law review do not write articles. They sometimes choose what will be published, maybe edit, but mostly check cites.

And he WAS a "part-time" teacher (usually called an "adjunct.") He taught only 3 different courses.

“I’m not sure he was close to anyone,” Mr. Hutchinson said, except for a few liberal constitutional law professors, like Cass Sunstein, now an occasional adviser to his campaign. Mr. Obama was working two other jobs, after all, in the State Senate and at a civil rights law firm.

315 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:36:31pm

re: #313 HDrepub

I think we all know how to use Google JMV. Only thing is I don't find Obama at the top of his class since that would be in the summa cum laude degree category. He was in the top 10% of his law school class perhaps but to say he was at the top is stretching it some.

Right. I only meant to claim that he was successful and highly regarded.

316 Optimizer  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:37:44pm

re: #293 Omachka

This article tells the whole story and has links to all the Twitter and Qik cell phone vids that were done that day. History in the making and very interesting!

You know, this didn't sound like that big a deal when I first heard about it, but when you look at all the elements it really is kind of radical:

1) Congressmen breaking various House rules
2) Visitors breaking House rules, and chiming in
3) Blatant disregard (by Pelosi) of what the public wants
4) Open attempts at media censorship

We're not talking about the town hall in Montpelier, people - this is the US Capitol, for crying out loud!

317 Shr_Nfr  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:38:12pm

re: #305 so.cal.swede

Actually, his castration remark was because he found a doctor in Mexico that could do a nut transplant.

318 Mr Spiffy  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:45:05pm

re: #25 MandyManners

"Sank 'Eaven for little girls..."
--channeling Maurice Chevalier

319 MarineMomSue  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 1:48:43pm

re: #56 realwest

Obviously that's also racist. BUT - if I were a Black man I'd vote for Obama cause it's the first time EVER that a Black man (who supposedly understands me and my community as a Black Man) could become President. Yes it's still racist, but I think it's understandable.
Real question is why didn't women buy into Hillary's attempt to break the all male nature of the Presidency?

Why? Hillary's baggage? I'd say the top 20 are:
1) Bill
2) Shrewish
3) Bill
4) Machiavellian
5) Bill
6) power-hungry
7) criminal
8) Bill
9) dangerous
10) Bill
11) self-serving
12) scripted
13) Bill
14) phony
15) Bill
16) boring
17) Bill
18) distain for military
19) untrustworthy
20) Bill

320 johnnyreb  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 2:26:06pm

re: #276 Steffan

Exactly. You'll note they're sand-colored so as not to be noticeable if they get partially uncovered (which does happen).

There's a faction of moonbats who are trying to get them banned. IIRC, Princess Diana was a celebrity leader of this group. Most countries that use them, including the US, won't sign on to any such agreement because the things are too useful for area denial in places like the Korean DMZ.

Rommel had six million of them along the Normandy coast shortly before D-Day. He wanted 60 million of them planted, but ran out of time.

The main problem with mines is that a lot of the countries that use them don't bother mapping the minefields, making it an adventure for the unwary. Last I heard, they were still clearing Soviet mines from Afghanistan.

I've got five bucks says Hamas and Fatah don't map their minefields.

Uh the Cubans don't map their minefields either, they don't want anyone getting a copy of a map and escaping. Every other year they just burn them off. We spent 3 years in GITMO. And what a sight to behold when the mines started cooking off! 3 days and nights of wondering if the Cubans were coming across the wire. Better than the 4th of July. Scary stuff.

321 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 2:27:21pm

re: #315 JustMyView

Right. I only meant to claim that he was successful and highly regarded.

Well. We all know who you'll be voting for in November.

322 debutaunt  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 2:30:59pm

re: #321 rightymouse

Well. We all know who you'll be voting for in November.

Can anyone explain why Obama is unable to speak clearly without a teleprompter? I heard him talking and he stammers a lot.

323 johnnyreb  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 2:31:44pm

re: #306 JustMyView

Yes. He graduated magna cum laude and was president of the Harvard Law Review. Many references documenting this online. If you're interested in more details or in the kinds of stories people who knew him then tell, google "obama harvard record".

I see nothing about grades, class standings, nothing about his academic achievements.

324 CrimsonFisted  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 2:31:47pm

re: #9 lawhawk

Add to that her BOOK TOUR on her vacation and she looks even WORSE!

325 kansas  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 2:46:09pm

By the way Obama's people are saying how far out of bounds McCain is, you can tell the ads have hit the jack pot.

326 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 2:47:30pm

re: #322 debutaunt

Can anyone explain why Obama is unable to speak clearly without a teleprompter? I heard him talking and he stammers a lot.

Because without a script, the man is without a clue.

Extemporaneous speech requires the brain and mouth to be engaged as one.

327 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 2:50:23pm

re: #323 johnnyreb

I see nothing about grades, class standings, nothing about his academic achievements.

Also, I don't believe Obama ever wrote anything for the Harvard Law Review.

328 DaChew  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 2:58:43pm

I heard that, this one time, when Obama was in college and his college basketball team was losing, at half time he went into the opposing team's locker room and convinced all of them that they wanted change so bad that they went out and lost the game on purpose.

329 reine.de.tout  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 3:00:08pm

re: #293 Omachka

This article tells the whole story and has links to all the Twitter and Qik cell phone vids that were done that day. History in the making and very interesting!

Really great link!
Thanks.

330 donbmcd  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 3:15:22pm

It is the 38% that scare's me. 2 out of every 5 people in this county are nut-cases.

331 GGMac  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 3:18:11pm

re: #96 SkippyMoment

I clicked your avatar, and about fell over at your "It wasn't me. Skippy did it"...

Back story: When I was in high school - 1950's - we had neighbors who had a son about 7, and a daughter about 3. His name was 'Skippy'; I think her's was 'Phyllis'.

She was a complete imp, who never did anything wrong - because whenever she was caught, she'd say [REALLY!] 'It wasn't me. Skippy did it.'

The dad was painting the boy's bedroom one day - and the boy no where around. Dad took a break; when he went back into the room there was Phyllis - with the paint roller, painting everything blue. Dad said to her 'What are you doing?', and she - as always - said, 'It wasn't me. Skippy did it.'

Too funny. After hearing the dad's tale, our family picked it - any time one of us didn't want to fess up to a screwup, we'd say 'It wasn't me - Skippy did it.'

We did that for another 40 years - until both my parents had passed.

Seeing it on your page really gave me a smile.

Don't recall the mom's name - the dad was Bill, and he was an eye surgeon in the Navy. Don't want to post their surname - I'd love it if it was your ancestors.

Hope you see this - it's been hours since your comments, and you said you're not on often.

Just remembered - the mom's name was Jean.

332 RickZ  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 3:18:22pm

re: #315 JustMyView

Right. I only meant to claim that he was successful and highly regarded.

Bullshit. Who says he's highly regarded? You? From what I've read, he was always running for something, never sticking around in a position long enough to be judged on his results in that particular postion. Sounds like his whole poltical life, if'n you ask me.

333 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 3:45:26pm

re: #332 RickZ

Bullshit. Who says he's highly regarded? You? From what I've read, he was always running for something, never sticking around in a position long enough to be judged on his results in that particular postion. Sounds like his whole poltical life, if'n you ask me.

Here's one article that says he was highly regarded as a law student. There are many more. An excerpt:

"I can't pretend that I had any idea then that he would be a serious presidential candidate _ that would have been a crazy thing for anyone to project at that stage of a career _ but he was certainly the most all-around impressive student I had seen in decades," said Laurence Tribe, a constitutional scholar at Harvard for whom Obama served as a research assistant.

334 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 3:47:03pm

re: #333 JustMyView

Three letters. BFD.

335 Josephine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 3:53:12pm

re: #331 GGMac

That's a lovely story. I know it wasn't addressed to me but I really enjoyed reading it.

336 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 3:54:15pm

re: #327 rightymouse

Also, I don't believe Obama ever wrote anything for the Harvard Law Review.

See nonic's #314. Apparently, law students don't write for their law reviews. Instead, they work as editors, shaping the issue by recruiting authors, providing reviews on interim drafts, and so on. That's my understanding, but I'm not a lawyer, so I am relying here on nonic's comment.

337 RickZ  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 3:56:56pm

re: #333 JustMyView

In 1990, Obama became the first black president of the prestigious Harvard Law Review, a position that usually falls to the student with the sharpest elbows. Obama won by convincing liberals and conservatives alike of the strength of his intellect, the soundness of his judgment and the merit of his vision.

There are conservatives at Hawvawd? LOL!

"The fact that I've been elected shows a lot of progress," Obama told The New York Times at the time. "But it's important that stories like mine aren't used to say that everything is OK for blacks. You have to remember that for every one of me, there are hundreds or thousands of black students with at least equal talent who don't get a chance."

What a racist prick.

Fellow students and Senate aides say Obama was not the author of the Note, but as president, he gave each article the final substantive edit.

Ah, so he's an editor, not an origianl thinker, as has been portrayed?

For all his success, Obama did suffer one defeat at the Law School: He was rejected by a screening committee of female students for a pinup calendar of black students created as both a fundraiser and a source of black pride.

Which is why we get crotch shots of Obama on his plane being 'interviewed' by fawning reporters. He has so many rejection issues. And this is the guy you want for President and C-in-C? (And you know you do.)

338 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:02:51pm

re: #336 JustMyView

See nonic's #314. Apparently, law students don't write for their law reviews. Instead, they work as editors, shaping the issue by recruiting authors, providing reviews on interim drafts, and so on. That's my understanding, but I'm not a lawyer, so I am relying here on nonic's comment.

I see.

No research of your own?

339 norar  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:07:20pm

I never had a high opinion of Mc Cain. I always though him to be rather a silly persona, but lately Obama bits even McCain in silliness department.

340 Austin Conservative  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:08:25pm

Obama is such an empty suit. It's pathetic that the Dems picked such an unaccomplished person with a bitter angry & racist wife. It's even more pathetic that the media picked the republican candidate, so liberal, and a illegal alien panderer.

Face it folks, we are so screwed in November. It does not matter either way, we are getting screwed. It boils down to one question in the voting booth.

Lubrication or Dry?

341 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:09:18pm

re: #323 johnnyreb

I see nothing about grades, class standings, nothing about his academic achievements.

Last I heard, transcripts are not public documents. As to class standings, I found this in an article re Obama's selection as president of the law review:

Harvard, like a number of other top law schools, no longer ranks its law students for any purpose including a guide to recruiters.

Being the president of the Harvard Law Review is a pretty big achievement. I dare say pretty much any student in the class would be delighted to be honored in that way. There's a reason it's always mentioned and why his selection was noted in the New York Times.

You can argue that academic accomplishments aren't relevant to the presidency (and that would be a good approach if you're a McCain supporter), but I don't think trying to dismiss Obama's achievements as a law student is a particularly sound idea.

342 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:16:17pm

re: #341 JustMyView

Being the president of the Harvard Law Review is a pretty big achievement. I dare say pretty much any student in the class would be delighted to be honored in that way. There's a reason it's always mentioned and why his selection was noted in the New York Times.

You can argue that academic accomplishments aren't relevant to the presidency (and that would be a good approach if you're a McCain supporter), but I don't think trying to dismiss Obama's achievements as a law student is a particularly sound idea.

Why not question Obama's "achievements"? So far, he's a young man who has no serious track record politically except as a community organizer with Alinsky as his role model and hasn't even finished his first term as a junior senator.

Go ahead and vote for Obama, we all know that's where you're coming from, because you are a socialist.

343 vagabond trader  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:18:14pm

btw,W went to Yale and speaks fluent Spanish. Obama manages to have as much and arguably more diffivulty with off the cuff articulation as the POTUS is accused of. So much for an ivy league education if you happen to be an alumni or affirmative action admission.

344 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:18:52pm

re: #338 rightymouse

I see.

No research of your own?

Here's some info re how the HLR operates. There are, in fact, some opportunities for student writing, but it appears that they are secondary to the review's purpose as an outlet for publications by legal scholars.

I think this is as much scurrying around as I will do on your behalf. You can google as well as I can. As I said above, people can differ on the importance of academic success as a foundation for the presidency, but this is not a domain in which Republicans should hope to open a wide lead given this year's candidate.

345 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:22:03pm

re: #342 rightymouse

Why not question Obama's "achievements"? So far, he's a young man who has no serious track record politically except as a community organizer with Alinsky as his role model and hasn't even finished his first term as a junior senator.

Go ahead and vote for Obama, we all know that's where you're coming from, because you are a socialist.

I'd say that having been elected a U.S. senator is something of an achievement. There are, after all, only 100 of them in our country of 300,000,000 people.

Re questioning achievements, that's fine. I was only saying that, in terms of academic accomplishments, McCain himself would tell you that he is not in Obama's league.

Finally, it's stupid to say "because you are a socialist." You don't know anything about me. I could be a McCain supporter who is simply interested in having the facts on the table.

346 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:23:45pm

re: #344 JustMyView

Here's some info re how the HLR operates. There are, in fact, some opportunities for student writing, but it appears that they are secondary to the review's purpose as an outlet for publications by legal scholars.

I think this is as much scurrying around as I will do on your behalf. You can google as well as I can. As I said above, people can differ on the importance of academic success as a foundation for the presidency, but this is not a domain in which Republicans should hope to open a wide lead given this year's candidate.

Honey. I do my own research. And if I choose to share it with you, I'll do so.

You have proven nothing to me except that you are a socialist. You are free to be anything you want, of course. That's the beauty of America.

But your ideological bent also tells me a lot about you. And I feel sad for you.

347 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:25:10pm

re: #345 JustMyView

I'd say that having been elected a U.S. senator is something of an achievement. There are, after all, only 100 of them in our country of 300,000,000 people.

Re questioning achievements, that's fine. I was only saying that, in terms of academic accomplishments, McCain himself would tell you that he is not in Obama's league.

Finally, it's stupid to say "because you are a socialist." You don't know anything about me. I could be a McCain supporter who is simply interested in having the facts on the table.

You're a socialist. Make no mistake about it. You wouldn't be saying the things you do otherwise. No conservative McCain supporter would spout socialistic nonsense like you do.

348 ladycatnip  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:25:58pm

#344 JustMyView

I think this is as much scurrying around as I will do on your behalf. You can google as well as I can. As I said above, people can differ on the importance of academic success as a foundation for the presidency, but this is not a domain in which Republicans should hope to open a wide lead given this year's candidate.

Since when did an academic background serve as a good foundation for the presidency? That's absurd. What constitutes a good foundation is experience leading, which means you have to actually take people somewhere, not just spout "Change" or "Yes We Can". With Obama's proclivities in speaking in slogans and cliches, he would be better suited in sales and advertising.

349 vagabond trader  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:26:02pm

re: #344 JustMyView

You are sadly misinformed if you think that attending and graduating Annapolis in the early 60's was a mean achievement. Obama would not have lasted through the first two weeks due to his specialness.

350 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:28:14pm

re: #346 rightymouse

Honey. I do my own research. And if I choose to share it with you, I'll do so.

You have proven nothing to me except that you are a socialist. You are free to be anything you want, of course. That's the beauty of America.

But your ideological bent also tells me a lot about you. And I feel sad for you.

It's very interesting how, over and over, you ask for information and, when I provide it, you ignore it, focusing on what you believe to be my ideology rather than on the facts I've presented.

I doubt that McCain would have much respect for your way of arguing on his behalf--or even your way of treating his opponent.

351 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:29:50pm

re: #349 vagabond trader

You are sadly misinformed if you think that attending and graduating Annapolis in the early 60's was a mean achievement. Obama would not have lasted through the first two weeks due to his specialness.

McCain graduated fourth or fifth from the bottom of his class. He has made jokes in public about his performance there. That's what I was referring to.

As for how Obama would have performed, that's something we'll never know. He seems to be holding up pretty well in an intense contest so far.

352 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:30:34pm

re: #350 JustMyView

It's very interesting how, over and over, you ask for information and, when I provide it, you ignore it, focusing on what you believe to be my ideology rather than on the facts I've presented.

I doubt that McCain would have much respect for your way of arguing on his behalf--or even your way of treating his opponent.

IF you could provide cogent ideas, I would pay attention.

But you can't. So I don't.

The last sentence was hilarious. You don't know me and my association with McCain or what he would think about that.

353 rightymouse  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:32:51pm

Off for the night now.

JMV - you stay speshul and classy. Ya hear?

354 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:33:23pm

re: #348 ladycatnip

#344 JustMyView

Since when did an academic background serve as a good foundation for the presidency? That's absurd. What constitutes a good foundation is experience leading, which means you have to actually take people somewhere, not just spout "Change" or "Yes We Can". With Obama's proclivities in speaking in slogans and cliches, he would be better suited in sales and advertising.

If you read what I said above, you'll say that I said, twice, that one can argue about whether academic achievements are or aren't important as a foundation for the presidency. I wouldn't say, myself, that stellar academic performance is essential, although being smart doesn't exactly seem like a liability.

This conversation started out w/ questions about Obama's academic achievements and subsequent attempts to dismiss them. That's why the discussion has focused on his performance at Harvard.

355 vagabond trader  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:35:16pm

re: #351 JustMyView

lol, you know NOTHING about the military academy.Like I said, two weeks tops for the Obama.Waaay too demanding for such a sensitive fella.Also, last time I checked, ivy league does not instill common sense. You either have it or you don't, and it's obvious which candidate has it.

356 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:35:51pm

re: #352 rightymouse

IF you could provide cogent ideas, I would pay attention.

There's been no question of cogency of ideas in what I've been saying in this conversation. It's all been basic facts, which you've chosen to ignore rather than considering how they might affect your opinion.

357 pbird  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:54:21pm

re: #56 realwest

Obviously that's also racist. BUT - if I were a Black man I'd vote for Obama cause it's the first time EVER that a Black man (who supposedly understands me and my community as a Black Man) could become President. Yes it's still racist, but I think it's understandable.
Real question is why didn't women buy into Hillary's attempt to break the all male nature of the Presidency?

I think the fact of the matter is that most women don't want a female president.

358 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 4:54:52pm

Harvard Law review has produced two gifts for the body politic this century.

Barak Obama
Eliot Spitzer

359 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 5:01:36pm

re: #358 lifeofthemind

Harvard Law review has produced two gifts for the body politic this century.

Barak Obama
Eliot Spitzer

And a few others . . .

Prominent alumni of the Harvard Law Review include Presidential Nominee Senator Barack Obama, Supreme Court Justices Edward Sanford, Felix Frankfurter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Antonin Scalia, Stephen Breyer and Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr., as well as Secretary of State Dean Acheson, Charles Hamilton Houston, Alger Hiss, Archibald MacLeish, Secretary of Transportation and Brown v. Board of Education attorney William Coleman, Jr., Judge Richard Posner, Chief Judge Henry Friendly, Chief Judge Michael Boudin, U.S. Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, former U.S. Solicitor General Paul Clement, U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Chris Cox, former New York governor Eliot Spitzer, Harvard Law School Dean Elena Kagan, Yale Law School Dean Harold Koh, former Canadian ambassador Allan Gotlieb, former Assistant Attorney General Viet Dinh, former New York State Solicitor General Preeta D. Bansal, University of Texas President William C. Powers, and former Harvard University president Derek Bok.

I've marked only those I know to be prominent Republicans and/or conservatives. There may be more.

360 Perplexed  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 5:45:28pm

Sixty years ago Obama could have been the man of all seasons depending on who he was talking to because modern media hadn't come on the scene. Today Obama can't get by with that. Too many people fact-check him from beginning to end. He's got to tell the people what they want to hear, but when those same people find out that they've been misled by a later speech by Obama changing/modifying/updating his policy de jour, those folks get angry.

Obama is self destructing in front of us.

361 cybermonk  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 5:52:45pm

re: #211 ggt

she tries to create relevance where none exists.

362 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 6:13:09pm

re: #359 JustMyView

I've marked only those I know to be prominent Republicans and/or conservatives. There may be more.


My qualification was "this century" but yes Chief Justice Roberts should be added to the list. Like all institutions, the New York Times for example, there is a natural but disturbing tendency to run down. Over time small corruptions creep in, a willingness to cut corners, indulge prejudices due to alliance or fashion. These swings can be to the left or the right and they sap the credibility of an organization. All that any human institution has after all is a reputation, some traditions, a decaying capital stock such as furniture, and people. If the wrong people are let in or put in charge for the wrong reasons then things can go down hill fast. It is worth while I think to make the exertions to keep these institutions strong and productive. That is because I am an elitist.

363 JustMyView  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 7:23:38pm

re: #362 lifeofthemind

My qualification was "this century" but yes Chief Justice Roberts should be added to the list.

Which century are you talking about? Obama graduated from Harvard in the 20th century, as did most of the people on the list above.

364 Caboose  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 7:28:19pm

re: #141 realwest

I'm not sure Mandy - iirc about 40 Repub's were there when Pelosi literally turned out the lights and turned off the mic's. Don't know how many stayed after that, because the Communist News Network stopped broadcasting it and you KNOW the MSM didn't really even mention it in passing. But an ad that had whomever the Repub's had speaking, then showing the lights going out and microphones shut off saying "Why didn't the Democrats stay to work on this CRITICAL aspect of our ECONOMY and even go so far as to SHUT OFF DISCUSSION, LIGHTS AND MICROPHONES - on an issue of such great economic importance to Americans everywhere" would have a nice effect.
Someone with better PR skills could improve that, a lot, I'm sure!

And make sure to state something to the effect of

"Is this Congresswoman Pelosi's Democrat Party-led Congresses great plan to get energy cost under control, to threaten arrest, cut off public discussion and desert your post? Is this your grand plan you had in 2006, Nancy? Your party's candidate for President of the USA blocked a plan to just inventory potential offshore reserves in 2005. Was this part of the plan, Nancy, to ignore our own resources that would help cut dependence on foreign oil? You want to relieve the burden on the little man not by following the law of supply and demand by letting Americans supply themselves with their own oil which will create jobs and wealth across the spectrum, but by raising taxes on the oil companies that will just be passed on to that little man you care oh so much about. Since when was Congresswoman Pelosi or any other politician given sole decision on how our resources are to be used? If not for us, for who then? When it comes to holding working Americans over an oil barrel, it is hard to tell just who is Americas' worst enemy, OPEC or the Democrats.

"Democrats, quick and decisive when it comes to renaming post offices but completely clueless about solving America's energy crisis. America deserves and should demand better representation of our interests than what Congresswoman Pelosi and her fellow Democrats give.

"Had enough?

"McCain 2008."

I am not a speechwriter, nor do I play one on TV, but if someone on the McCain team wants to run with this, knock yourselves out!

365 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 7:28:25pm

re: #363 JustMyView

Which century are you talking about? Obama graduated from Harvard in the 20th century, as did most of the people on the list above.

Meant active in National level politics starting in this 21st century. A small distinction I think not really worth an argument. Hope you found my thought piece worth your time. Let's end this thread and move on.

366 mattm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 7:35:46pm

re: #10 Right Brain

Wow. This guy is even scarier than I thought.

367 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 7:44:51pm

re: #364 Caboose

And make sure to state something to the effect of

"Democrats, quick and decisive when it comes to renaming post offices but completely clueless about solving America's energy crisis. America deserves and should demand better representation of our interests than what Congresswoman Pelosi and her fellow Democrats give.

Good piece, wish you put it on a live thread. Hope you get the job. Would like it myself.

368 desertbrat  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 7:57:55pm

re: #29 The Other Les

"That act on his part on a practical level is an act of treason."


Does that mean we can impeach him, since he seems to think he is already the president?...

369 desertbrat  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:42:30pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

I think they are upside down Easter baskets...props from Palestinian Children TV with that silly rabbit that wants to kill Jews.

370 hurricane567  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 8:44:04pm

From Graphitti Designs and famed comic book creator Alex Ross comes a new T-shirt, OBAMA: TIME FOR A CHANGE....is that an "O" or a ZERO, Mr. Ross? It'd go great with Alex's other hot selling T-shirts, SUCKING DEMOCRACY DRY and MAKE LOVE NOT WAR. The message behind UNCLE SAM F.U. escapes me, though.


Lest you don't think everybody in the comic book business is a raving moonbat, have another listen to 300 and Sin City creator Frank Miller

371 TheMole  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:57:30pm

re: #168 seekeroftruth

How They Did in High School

Obama: Great, for a Slacker
Obama attended the elite Punahou prep school in Honolulu from fifth to twelfth grade after he was admitted with the help of his grandfather’s boss, an alum. He wasn't fully devoted to academics in high school, instead spending time at the beach, going to parties, and playing basketball. Obama was on the state-championship team his senior year but rode the pine, and still holds a grudge against his coach for not starting him. Obama played defensive line on Punahou’s football team his freshman year (he was much heavier then than he is now). Though he was well liked and seemingly content, Obama felt confused by his mixed-race heritage. A B student (his worst grade on record is a D, received in eighth-grade French), his professors saw untapped potential in “Barry,” as he was then known. And they were right!

McCain: Didn’t Get Kicked Out!
Known as "Punk" and "McNasty"—he had a penchant for fighting—McCain was an average student at his Episcopal boarding school. He excelled in English, government, and history, but had little interest in other subjects. His high-school friend Rives Richey once said, "You know, frankly, honest to goodness, if they'd have rated everybody in that class for likely to succeed, I guarantee you he'd have been in the bottom ten, without any question." Like his father before him, McCain also rebelled against the rules. He earned demerits for refusing to shine his shoes, speaking in ranks, and refusing to clean his room—but never acted out enough to get expelled or endanger his chances at the Naval Academy.

372 Ledger1  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:51:50pm

re: #316 Optimizer


Interesting story!

373 Ledger1  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:16:30am

re: #118 Dianna


This could be a staged photo where Hamas displays it own weapons.

Come to think of it they are now their weapons.

374 pittrader1988  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:33:20am

obama plays he race card better than anyone. it looks like mccain is up to it.
mccain also called for the end to affirmative action. this point is key.

he isn't getting the black vote anyway, might as well call for it because it hits home with reagan democrats.


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