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Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:21:44 pm PDT

When the mouse laughs at the cat, there’s a hole nearby.

Nigerian Proverb

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1 Inquisitive  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:23:31pm

I just had to take a mouse away from my cat....she running around trying to keep it away from the dog......

2 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:24:25pm

heh, reminds me of an arab fable. End line goes about a cat, "He may pray like a Haj'j(one who has made the pilgrimage) but he still pounces like a cat."

I have a book at home on Arab folk tales.

/to know the enemy, first know his stories.

3 mikalm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:24:53pm

Homegrown terrorists are at it again -- this time, not too far south of my home.

4 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:25:03pm

A cat can look at a king. A dog can eat a cat.

5 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:25:15pm

Spaceflight's not easy: Space X loses "Scotty" (and a rocket)

Space X hasn't just lost a rocket, though. The flight was carrying a trio of small satellites belonging to NASA and the DoD. Perhaps less seriously, but probably more newsworthy, the ashes of over 200 people were also on board, including a pair of rather well known astronauts, one actual, one fictional. They were Gordon Cooper, one of the original Mercury 7, and "Scotty" himself, James Doohan.


It's gonna' break up Cap'n!

6 mikalm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:26:59pm

re: #2 BlueCanuck

I heard that the most popular books at Guantanamo prison (yes, they have a library for inmates) are the Harry Potter works. The culture seems to have a strong affinity for fantasy, and escapism in the face of difficult circumstances, what with the 1001 Nights and the like.

7 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:27:02pm

India Orders Probe After Temple Stampede Kills 145

The government of India's northern state of Himachal Pradesh began an inquiry into a stampede at a Hindu temple that killed as many as 145 people yesterday, including 30 children, state-run broadcaster Doordarshan said.
8 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:27:07pm

If this has not been posted, then I call a MAJOR LIZARD ALERT:

[Link: weeklystandard.com...]

Cover story for current/next issue of Weekly Standard.

Hollywood Takes on the Left
David Zucker, the director who brought us 'Airplane!' and 'The Naked Gun,' turns his sights on anti-Americanism.
by Stephen F. Hayes
08/11/2008, Volume 013, Issue 45

Zucker is plainly not worried about offending anyone. David Alan Grier plays a slave in a scene designed to show Malone what might have happened if the United States had not fought the Civil War. As Patton explains to a dumbfounded Malone that the plantation they are visiting is his own, Grier thanks the documentarian for being such a humane owner. As they leave, another slave, played by Gary Coleman, finishes polishing a car and yells "Hey, Barack!" before tossing the sponge to someone off-camera.

(repost - had just posted this on the previous thread as it went stale)

9 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:29:05pm

re: #8 itellu3times

oh boogers

link:
[Link: weeklystandard.com...]

Movie: An American Tale, based loosely (!) on A Christmas Carol

10 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:17pm

re: #9 itellu3times

I wonder if Bill Whittle is involved.

11 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:19pm

re: #8 itellu3times

Some one posted that in the spin off links. Looks like it could be a good movie.

/The right will rise again in Hollyweird.

12 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:30pm

What's this? Seattle Police need a training wheel on their Segways?

Okay, it's a three wheeled version.

13 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:45pm

re: #5 jcm

Spaceflight's not easy: Space X loses "Scotty" (and a rocket)


It's gonna' break up Cap'n!

That bums me out. Seriously. "Scotty" deserved better.

14 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:30:52pm

re: #10 Noam Sayin'

I wonder if Bill Whittle is involved.

He's mentioned he's been up to something.

15 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:31:02pm

re: #3 mikalm

Homegrown terrorists are at it again -- this time, not too far south of my home.

All the people on the target list should be offered free training on firearms safety and concealed carry permits.

16 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:31:39pm

re: #13 Russkilitlover

That bums me out. Seriously. "Scotty" deserved better.

IIRC, then only send a small sample of a person's ashes, not the whole lot.

17 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:32:42pm

Speaking of "holes" . . . naked criminal alert!

18 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:33:24pm

re: #6 mikalm

The history of the book I have is interesting. Apparently a western anthropologist realized some of the stories were being lost. So he went around to all the tribes in the Middle East and Southern Meditraniean and recorded the folk tales from all the tribes. Really fascinating when you read some of them. Something I learned a long time ago about different cultures and understanding. Their history shapes their stories and their thought patterns. If you learn their stories you can learn how they think and act.

19 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:33:40pm

re: #15 lifeofthemind

All the people on the target list should be offered free training on firearms safety and concealed carry permits.

You shouldn't have to be targeted in order to exercise your right to self defense. That said I do hope those target will seriously consider it.

CA firearms laws another discussion.

20 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:33:52pm

BREAKING NEWS:

China grenade attack kills 16 ahead of Games

BEIJING - A police station in China's restive Xinjiang region was attacked on Monday morning, four days before the Beijing Olympics begin, killing 16 officers and wounding 12, state media reported.

"Rioters drove two vehicles to break into the border patrol armed police division" near Kashgar and threw two grenades, Xinhua reported.

The brief report did not describe the attackers. But the Xinjiang region in the far northwest has been at the heart of China's security fears leading up the Olympics, which begin in four days.

Xinjiang is home to a large Uighur Muslim population, many of them discontent under strict Chinese rule. Some Uighur groups are campaigning for an independent homeland for their Turkic-speaking people.

[For link and rest of story see spinoff links above.]

21 dammad  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:34:04pm

Sometimes you have to forget about the cheese and get out of the hole. (Hat tip to a friend of mine who thought I should get rid of an old boyfriend, boy was she right!)

22 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:35:29pm

re: #17 Wyatt Earp

Speaking of "holes" . . . naked criminal alert!

I was riding one night with a State Trooper, when the truckers started chattering about a naked lady. Sure enough, some gal's idea of fun was to drive around at night, nekkid as a jaybird with the dome light on and give the truckers a show.

23 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:36:23pm

re: #12 jcm

What's this? Seattle Police need a training wheel on their Segways?

Okay, it's a three wheeled version.

I am tickled and thrilled that the geniusii at Segway have finally figured out how to triple the speed and endurance of their fabulous device, and if they ever get up to four wheels, or six, the thing might become nearly as useful as a motorcycle.

24 Inquisitive  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:36:25pm

More......from article linked to on up thread.....

Barack Obama's Lost Years
The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal.
"Illinois's fate may foreshadow the nation's. Obama's small and carefully targeted spending bills were expressly designed to win passage by a Republican-controlled state senate. But if Obama takes the presidency with a Democratic Congress at his back, we'll likely see a grand-scale version of the fiscal mayhem Obama and his colleagues brought to Illinois."
[Link: www.weeklystandard.com...]

25 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:36:50pm

re: #22 jcm

In my 14 years, I have never stopped a decent-looking naked criminal - man or woman. And you would be surprised how many I have run into.

26 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:37:40pm

re: #20 realwest

Wow. Just wow. Some ballsy folks in China, fer sure!

27 slokat  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:38:26pm

Here's an open thread photo, taken this afternoon: tethered

28 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:39:16pm

re: #23 itellu3times

I am tickled and thrilled that the geniusii at Segway have finally figured out how to triple the speed and endurance of their fabulous device, and if they ever get up to four wheels, or six, the thing might become nearly as useful as a motorcycle.

For event's like Seafair, big crowd, contained space. The things are perfect, get through the crowd in a hurry, much faster than car, or horse and maybe even bike.

29 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:39:19pm

re: #16 jcm

IIRC, then only send a small sample of a person's ashes, not the whole lot.

So my head could be above the clouds, but my heart still on earth? Not a bad idea. Scatter should mean widely!

30 mikalm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:39:35pm

re: #19 jcm

Either way, I'm sure that if one of these dirtbags got ventilated by a would-be victim, it would greatly discourage other trust-fund revolutionaries from pursuing these kinds of tactics.

31 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:39:40pm

re: #27 slokat

Is that a shark at the top left? SHARK!

32 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:39:59pm

re: #19 jcm

You shouldn't have to be targeted in order to exercise your right to self defense. That said I do hope those target will seriously consider it.

CA firearms laws another discussion.

Smiles. I agree with you. I do not wish to carry a weapon myself but that is a choice. Hope that you see some threat if not being actually targeted before you actually exercise the right to self defense as in using the weapon. As opposed to exercising the right to bear arms but I am being a pedant and am tired.

33 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:43:21pm

re: #25 Wyatt Earp

In my 14 years, I have never stopped a decent-looking naked criminal - man or woman. And you would be surprised how many I have run into.

She was mid 50's.

My favorite "flasher" was when I was on the Fire Department. We'd get routine calls for little old lonely ladies. We go and if nothing was wrong go in service but visit for a bit and make sure they had everything they needed. We had one old gal in here 90's who'd been a teenager in the big SF quake in '06 then had spent years as a working girl then a madam in a SF brothel. She had a habit of flashing any rookies we had on the crew.

She swore like a sailor, was funny and risque as hell.

34 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:43:52pm

re: #26 Russkilitlover

Yeah, well they were Muslims and we all know that jihadist Muslims worship death so...........
China's gonna be real pissed off - not so much because of the 28 Police officers killed or wounded, but because they might have to do something BAD just before (and my guess is probably during) the Olympic Games.

35 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:44:24pm
36 realwest  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:46:35pm

Well anyway all y'all, I've missed the fun and interesting news out here tonight, but that's cause I'm sick as a dog - maybe sicker!
I'm going to try to get some sleep and hope I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Goodnight, all.

37 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:47:00pm

re: #28 jcm

For event's like Seafair, big crowd, contained space. The things are perfect, get through the crowd in a hurry, much faster than car, or horse and maybe even bike.

I'm sure they're nice. The two-wheeled Segway is very cute, but terribly inefficient, drains all its power standing upright. Silly. And still not stable, especially but not only in collisions. And limited in safe top speed. And payload. And, and ... three wheels is seriously so much better. It's nice you stand vertical, but. I think six wheels is the obviously optimal platform. If they survive, wait and see.

And then they can come out with the unicycle version, or the pogo-stick version, just for the novelty.

Meanwhile, Honda will be coming out with a two (or four or six) legged walking/running versions.

38 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:47:05pm

re: #33 jcm

In the few times we get a decent-looking criminal/flasher, it looks like an Assist Officer call, because everyone tells the other cars to "back them up" at the address.

It could be a call for a drunk on the highway, and you'll have ten cars there trying to get a look at the half-naked, semi-attractive woman. It's worse in the busier districts, because the only women we see there are crack hos and women who push the 250-pound mark and wear spandex. *shudder*

39 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:47:20pm

re: #27 slokat

I see your tether, and raise you sky. :)

40 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:47:26pm

re: #36 realwest

Get well, realwest! Take care.

41 itellu3times  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:48:33pm

re: #40 Archimedes

Get well, realwest! Take care.

What he said.

42 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:49:00pm

Night real sleep well and may you have weet dreams.

43 solomonpanting  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:49:03pm

Texas set to defy World Court with execution

Texas is set to defy the World Court and anger Mexico on Tuesday by executing a Mexican national who was not informed of his right to consular services after his arrest....
"It's very important for the citizens of Texas to remember that Jose Medellin ... brutally and viciously gang raped, stomped, kicked, slashed, strangled and murdered two teenage girls in Houston," Castle said.
"The World Court has no jurisdiction here in Texas. We're concerned about following Texas law and that's what we're doing."
44 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:50:22pm

re: #43 solomonpanting

Gotta love Texas. Are they accepting immigrants yet?

/Willing to move to a real country, oops I mean state. ;)

45 pat  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:50:48pm

"If you believe in Chicken Enchiladas."
oops
I mean Pina Colodas. And dancing in the rain.

46 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:52:29pm

re: #36 realwest

Get strong! Get well. I'll toss up a prayer for you and yours, although with my history, someone may or may not be listening! In any case, my good thoughts are heading your way - south east area, Charlotte, NC? Just want to make sure I don't send them off the Vermont or anything! Take care of yourself and don't get down. Your body is tired but it is also resilient. And I am continually shocked, stunned and amazed at what the body can go through and recover.

{real}

47 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:52:36pm

re: #43 solomonpanting

Texas set to defy World Court with execution

Maybe a Texas Grand Jury needs to indict somebody for Interfering with a Judicial Process.

48 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:52:44pm

re: #45 pat

Or, if you're Homer Simpson, you would mean "Pina Colonics." Great episode, that one.

49 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:54:01pm

re: #38 Wyatt Earp

In the few times we get a decent-looking criminal/flasher, it looks like an Assist Officer call, because everyone tells the other cars to "back them up" at the address.

It could be a call for a drunk on the highway, and you'll have ten cars there trying to get a look at the half-naked, semi-attractive woman. It's worse in the busier districts, because the only women we see there are crack hos and women who push the 250-pound mark and wear spandex. *shudder*

The best one was I-5 in Seattle a major bridge has big power pylons right next to it. One day a transexual male to female climb he power pylon and displayed his/her/its new attributes to everyone on I-5 at rush hour.

50 solomonpanting  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:54:31pm

re: #44 BlueCanuck

Gotta love Texas. Are they accepting immigrants yet?

/Willing to move to a real country, oops I mean state. ;)

Well, they accepted my brother, who immigrated from Colorado.
8)

51 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:54:59pm

re: #49 jcm

Oh, dude! Suddenly, I am not hungry . . .

52 Joan Not of Arc  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:55:25pm

That's why I laugh at cats.

53 Temujin  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:55:58pm

“A politician collects money from the rich and votes from the poor. His job is to protect them from each other.” ~ Unknown

54 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:56:33pm

re: #33 jcm

What a great story!

55 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:57:04pm
When the mouse laughs at the cat, there’s a hole nearby.


LOL!

56 slokat  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:57:31pm

re: #39 BlueCanuck

BlueSkyCanuk? Is that your site?

57 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:58:40pm

re: #51 Wyatt Earp

Oh, dude! Suddenly, I am not hungry . . .

This is Seattle.

It was a mess, shutting down power on those lines would have put 10,000s or more people in the dark, the pylons are 120 or so feet tall. She/it wasn't about to come down. They finally figure instead of getting it down, they just wait till it got cold and hungry enough.

58 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:59:36pm

re: #52 Joan Not of Arc

That's why I laugh at cats.

That's why cats laugh at you! Have you ever noticed that every time you see a cat, it's already looking at you?

59 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 9:59:41pm

re: #57 jcm

That's actually a pretty damned impressive plan.

60 Palandine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:01:20pm

re: #37 itellu3times

They do Segway tours of Forest Park in St. Louis. I see them sometimes when I go there to fish. There's something endearingly silly about a posse of tourists rolling along the paths of that wonderful, venerable park.

I do feel sorry for thecops who have to use them, though. Not likely to strike fear in the hearts of evildoers.

61 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:01:35pm

re: #56 slokat

Yeah, that's my Flickr account. Gives me a good reason to get out during the day in the sun.

62 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:01:59pm

re: #60 Palandine

We would probably get more respect while riding unicycles.

63 Palandine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:02:03pm

re: #55 Killgore Trout

I'm so glad you brought the Space Pope back...

64 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:03:07pm
When the mouse looks at the fat cat holding all the voting papers, he knows he is dog tucker.

Zimbabwean reality

65 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:03:10pm

re: #59 Wyatt Earp

That's actually a pretty damned impressive plan.

Sometimes that's the best plan. I trained in high angle rescue, and getting someone down who doesn't want to be got down.... well that's probably the worst.

66 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:03:12pm

re: #58 Russkilitlover

Cats, big cats mind you, are the only predator that will actively stalk a human. Makes you wonder what their little cousins are thinking.

67 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:04:45pm
When laughing mouse try to take voting paper from fat cat, he knows there is a hole nearby, and he is going to be dropped in it.

Zimbabwean reality

68 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:04:52pm

re: #63 Palandine

I think it's more fitting. Although I do have a fondness for drunken chain smoking Hitch too.

69 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:05:27pm

re: #66 BlueCanuck

Cats, big cats mind you, are the only predator that will actively stalk a human. Makes you wonder what their little cousins are thinking.

Sometimes size doesn't matter. I've had the distinct impression with cats that they're wondering what I would taste like.

70 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:06:34pm

re: #68 Killgore Trout

I think it's more fitting. Although I do have a fondness for drunken chain smoking Hitch too.

As long as the part in alien doesn't translate "To Serve Man."

71 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:07:34pm
When the mouse laughs at the cat, there’s a hole nearby.

— Nigerian Proverb


It's true the Nigerian prince who e-mailed me and wants me to help him transfer his fortune to the U.S. uses this saying all the time.

72 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:08:14pm

re: #71 Neo Con since 9-11

Hey! Are you trying to horn in on my money?

73 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:08:56pm

re: #71 Neo Con since 9-11

It's true the Nigerian prince who e-mailed me and wants me to help him transfer his fortune to the U.S. uses this saying all the time.

Why that two timing twerp, he promised me......

74 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:10:18pm

re: #66 BlueCanuck

Cats, big cats mind you, are the only predator that will actively stalk a human. Makes you wonder what their little cousins are thinking.

Most bears will leave you alone if you leave them alone. The polar bear, however, has been know to stalk humans and attack unprovoked. So you must keep a watchful eye and stay clear of them.

But we've taken care of them with Global Warming Climate Change...I saw the WWF add saying the Polar Bear is doomed, so we got nothing to worry about.....

75 jcm  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:11:25pm

Good night one and all!


A stone thrown at the right time is better than gold given at the wrong time.
Persian Proverb

76 razorbacker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:11:37pm

re: #66 BlueCanuck

Cats, big cats mind you, are the only predator that will actively stalk a human. Makes you wonder what their little cousins are thinking.

Are you sure?

The polar bear, however, has been know to stalk humans and attack unprovoked.

I mean, bet your life sure?

Polar bears are omnivorous, but feed chiefly on marine animals such as seals and young walruses. Quite fearless, they will stalk any animal, including humans.

Or are you just shilling for Canadian tourism;)?

'Cause you guys gots lots of them, ya know.

77 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:12:12pm

re: #66 BlueCanuck

Cats, big cats mind you, are the only predator that will actively stalk a human. Makes you wonder what their little cousins are thinking.

Sounds hokey but true story: I was hiking in the Cuyamaca area of San Diego county with Mr. Russkililover and some friends. We had to go through a canyon. I stopped short at the mouth of the canyon. Hair raised on my arms and back of neck, didn't know why. No sounds, i think that's what tipped me off - anyway we all stopped and looked around. Lo and behold about 30 ft above us on a ledge, a mountain lion face was peering down. We all stopped, stared, and started waving our arms and making ridiculous growling noises. Apparently, it fooled the cat and it took off in two leaps and disappeared into chaparral. I always look up now....

78 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:14:25pm

re: #75 jcm

Night, JCM!

79 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:16:46pm

re: #76 razorbacker

Please, send all your moonbats up on artic tourism. It will save the polar bears and help us out in the long term. ;)

/Didn't know that about polar bears.

80 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:19:44pm

My my....an open thread and here I am buzzed and proverb-less.

81 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:20:54pm

re: #80 Fenway_Nation

My my....an open thread and here I am buzzed and proverb-less.

Buzzed? Whatcha been up to?

82 razorbacker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:22:11pm

re: #79 BlueCanuck

That's a pretty fearless critter, that polar bear.

As the new Seawolf class sub USS Connecticut surfaced in the ice pack between the North Pole and Alaska on April 27, a polar bear chomped on its rudder, then attacked it.

The Connecticut was only partly surfaced, with its sail and rudder sticking through the ice.

83 greenmiler  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:23:39pm

OK something strange going on on my putor; on I.E., on my favorites, The little icon next to the name of Fox news has changed to the LGF football..I deleted the shortcut to foxnews, retyped it in and the football came up when it went to foxnews! WTF! Charles did you buy Foxnews?

84 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:24:31pm

re: #69 jcm

Amazing. Somewhere I've seen a video of a kitten that scared a black bear away.

But, this will have to do for now. Rabbit and big snake:

85 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:24:36pm

re: #77 Russkilitlover

What time of day was this? I was taking a shortcut through some chaparral a few weeks ago in the middle of the night. I was more or less home-free when I heard something very large rustling in the underbrush behind me....

I was thinking large dog or even larger cat....

86 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:25:21pm

re: #81 Russkilitlover

Buzzed? Whatcha been up to?

several bacardi & cokes and not nearly as many proverbs, apparently.

87 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:25:42pm

Whoa! Coyotes back of my yard have just done one of their war party yippings. Must have caught something, hopefully the squirrel who has been stealing my strawberries! I mentioned in a prior thread that I live in the sticks. I have seen more Nature in Tooth and Claw than and Animal Planet channel could show! It's brutal out here!

88 Karridine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:26:54pm

re: #84 Archimedes

Always exceptions, to the usual rule: Two Ton Bear Does What It Wants!

/me stay clear! :D

89 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:26:59pm

re: #85 Fenway_Nation

What time of day was this? I was taking a shortcut through some chaparral a few weeks ago in the middle of the night. I was more or less home-free when I heard something very large rustling in the underbrush behind me....

I was thinking large dog or even larger cat....

Early/mid-morning. About 9AM, we'd been hiking for over 2 hours.

90 razorbacker  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:27:20pm

It's off to bed for me, with visions of submarine-eating polar bears dancing in my head.

BTW, how'd those poor defencesless creatures survive last time the ice packs melted? Or has that never happened during the polar bears existance?

91 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:27:31pm

re: #72 Wyatt Earp

I don't need horn in on your scam. I'm going to be wealthy soon. I just received a letter telling me that I won the Netherlands Sweepstakes Lottery. I wasn't even aware I had entered but as soon as I send them my bank account number so they can transfer my five million dollars I'll be so rich I never need to run another scam in my life.

92 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:33:05pm
When the mouse laughs at the cat, there’s a hole nearby.

— Nigerian Proverb

I'm doubtful about that Nigerian proverb. Mice, cats, holes in wooden walls -- those are not endemic to Nigeria. Cats, if any, were brought by the British, as were the house-construction techniques that involved the kind of wooden walls that could acquire holes. As for mice -- well, I guess there must be mice in central Africa, but they're not the same mice we're familiar with that live in an urban setting.

If it is indeed a "Nigerian" proverb, it probably comes from the British occupation era. But even that seems far-fetched.

93 solomonpanting  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:33:25pm

re: #80 Fenway_Nation

My my....an open thread and here I am buzzed and proverb-less.

He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame.

Man who sneezes without hanky takes matters into his own hands.

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.

G'nite.....

ps...thanks for Manny

94 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:34:26pm

BTW, I've just come back from a cannibalistic Satan-worshipping ritual at San Francisco City Hall. Wanna see the pictures?

95 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:36:04pm

And which of you was it who emailed me that zebra-with-an-erection photo? I couldn't recognize the email address.

96 Killgore Trout  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:36:59pm

re: #94 zombie

Wanna see the pictures?


uhm....Yeah

97 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:37:45pm

re: #94 zombie

SFW or NSFW? Curious about these people.

/okay, honestly I need a good laugh.

98 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:37:56pm

re: #94 zombie

re: #95 zombie

Interesting pair of questions.

Only on LGF.

99 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:38:11pm

re: #94 zombie

BTW, I've just come back from a cannibalistic Satan-worshipping ritual at San Francisco City Hall. Wanna see the pictures?

I'm thinking that a couple of So Cal mountain lions on the streets of SF might not be such a bad thing. Although it would probably make the mountain lions sick....

100 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:38:15pm

re: #93 solomonpanting

G'nite.....

ps...thanks for Manny


Has he demanded a trade yet?

101 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:39:12pm

re: #3 mikalm

Homegrown terrorists are at it again -- this time, not too far south of my home.

They're part of the same group that terrorizes professors' houses in Berkeley. So far, no firebombs in Berkeley yet. But some nasty other stuff. I have photos, but I'm loathe to reveal them because I don't want to get involved in a police investigation.

Not that my photos in any way give a clue to the perpetrators (nor do I know), but they are pretty infuriating. But I'm quite positive the Berkeley and Santa Cruz cells are connected.

/one of many zombietime mysteries that shall remain mysterious.

102 tradewind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:39:20pm

re: #94 zombie

Zombie, if you're serious.......
Not so much, thanks. (But tell about it anyway, even if I don't want to see the pics....what the heck was happenng there)?
Love your stuff, but this doesn't sound like anything I wanna see. I think it's because I still have the hurls from reading about the Greyhound bus beheader who ate chunks of his victim while the Canadian Police watched and radioed back what they were seeing......

103 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:40:25pm

re: #96 Killgore Trout

uhm....Yeah

re: #97 BlueCanuck

SFW or NSFW? Curious about these people.

/okay, honestly I need a good laugh.


In case it wasn't clear:

/sarc

104 solomonpanting  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:40:42pm

re: #100 Fenway_Nation

G'nite.....

ps...thanks for Manny


Has he demanded a trade yet?

Yes. He says he wants to play on a team with a realistic chance to make it to the World Series.

Now, really, goodnight.

105 Cartman  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:41:23pm

re: #95 zombie

And which of you was it who emailed me that zebra-with-an-erection photo? I couldn't recognize the email address.

Throbert McGee?

106 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:41:27pm

re: #99 Russkilitlover

I'm thinking that a couple of So Cal mountain lions on the streets of SF might not be such a bad thing. Although it would probably make the mountain lions sick....

We've got coyotes in the city. The nearest mountain lions are actually pretty close, in Palo Alto.

107 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:42:10pm

re: #104 solomonpanting

Yes. He says he wants to play on a team with a realistic chance to make it to the World Series.

Now, really, goodnight.

Well then, he should've never asked to leave Boston.

Or at least made his way 30 miles south of Dodger Stadium....

108 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:43:41pm

re: #4 lifeofthemind

A dog can eat a cat.

/no way a dog will ever catch a cat

109 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:44:25pm

re: #105 Cartman

Throbert McGee?

Nope. Actually, I think I just had a brainwave, and think I might remember who it must be. In fact, the person has commented on this thread!

110 tradewind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:44:57pm

Charles....
The chief of police in my 'large Southern city' has filed suit against AOL in an attempt to force them to provide names and email addresses of a blog that criticizes the PD.....does this have a chance?
Sounds dangerously close to China's internet policy to me.

111 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:45:08pm

re: #108 Killian Bundy

/no way a dog will ever catch a cat

Never saw our dog run. The cats always got a head start. But he came close a few times.

112 freetoken  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:45:31pm

re: #92 zombie

Ahhh, Nigerian emails proverbs....

Here are some quotes attributed to famous Nigerians:


I work toward the liberation of women, but I'm not feminist. I'm just a woman.
-Buchi Emecheta


Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. And today? Today is a gift. That's why we call it the present.
-Babatunde Olatunji


And compare these two:

When I look at the system here and look at my position - not just as a basketball player, but when I look around me at the values of the people and the culture and compare them with the values of where I came from - I feel so blessed to be from Africa.
-Hakeem Olajuwon


I don't think I'll ever escape the fact that I don't belong anywhere in particular. I've often dreamed about going back to Nigeria, but that's a very romantic notion. It's a hideous country to go to in reality.
-Hugo Weaving

113 Karridine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:46:19pm

re: #109 zombie

No I din't, and it weren't ME, Zombie!

with THAT, I'll bbiab

114 tradewind  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:48:34pm

re: #95 zombie

Why does it always turn out to be about a black/white thing?
:)

115 Karridine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:48:35pm
I feel so blessed to be from Africa.
-Hakeem Olajuwon


Note: FROM Africa is MUCH DIFFERENT than IN Africa! (see Hugo Weaving, above)

116 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:49:34pm

McCain to roar into motorcycle haven in South Dakota

Senator John McCain, 71, heads to the unlikely town of Sturgis, South Dakota, on Monday to rub elbows with the rowdy tattooed rebels of the American roads at a campground rock concert.

Yeah baby!

/let's see Lord Obama top that

117 pbird  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:49:41pm

re: #66 BlueCanuck

Cats, big cats mind you, are the only predator that will actively stalk a human. Makes you wonder what their little cousins are thinking.

I often comment to my kitty, that I know she would eat us if she was big enough, if she was in a bad mood that day.

118 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:52:28pm

re: #106 zombie

That's what I love about coyotes. They are so adaptable. It's a wonder that they aren't completely domesticated yet. Give it a few evolutionary years. I don't understand why they are so feared/hated/hunted. I find them quintessentially American.

119 hazzyday  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:52:38pm

Zombie's Alley report had the same horror effect on me as Psycho.

120 pbird  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:53:42pm

re: #92 zombie

I'm doubtful about that Nigerian proverb. Mice, cats, holes in wooden walls -- those are not endemic to Nigeria. Cats, if any, were brought by the British, as were the house-construction techniques that involved the kind of wooden walls that could acquire holes. As for mice -- well, I guess there must be mice in central Africa, but they're not the same mice we're familiar with that live in an urban setting.

If it is indeed a "Nigerian" proverb, it probably comes from the British occupation era. But even that seems far-fetched.

Doesn't have to be a hole in a wall...

121 Alberta Oil Peon  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:56:21pm

There are coyotes around here. I hear them but rarely see them. I think they stay away from dwellings that are occupied, knowing that the occupants have rifles. I do see them on the roads when I'm driving sometimes.

Bumper sticker sighted: "Eat Alberta Lamb. 20 Million Coyotes Can't be Wrong."

122 pbird  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:56:26pm

re: #111 BlueCanuck

Never saw our dog run. The cats always got a head start. But he came close a few times.

Well actually, I used to have a wooly old bastard who would catch and eat cats while I was yelling at him to stop.

123 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 10:57:10pm

re: #92 zombie

I'm doubtful about that Nigerian proverb. Mice, cats, holes in wooden walls -- those are not endemic to Nigeria. Cats, if any, were brought by the British, as were the house-construction techniques that involved the kind of wooden walls that could acquire holes. As for mice -- well, I guess there must be mice in central Africa, but they're not the same mice we're familiar with that live in an urban setting.

If it is indeed a "Nigerian" proverb, it probably comes from the British occupation era. But even that seems far-fetched.

In Nigeria they seem to believe witches can transform into cats so there must be a fairly long history of felines there.


Nigerian Tribune learnt that three cats were crossing the busy road when the okada ran over one of them which immediately turned into a woman.
124 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:01:07pm

re: #116 Killian Bundy

McCain to roar into motorcycle haven in South Dakota

Yeah baby!

/let's see Lord Obama top that

Will Cindy accompany him? I wonder how long before she's implored to...

125 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:02:00pm

re: #123 Neo Con since 9-11


Nigerian Tribune learnt that three cats were crossing the busy road when the okada ran over one of them which immediately turned into a woman.

Was it a woman that the Prophet Muhammed would marry?

/No Miss Universe pageants in Lagos for a while....

126 Tarkus289  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:02:38pm

Madonna looks good for the first time in years, that is because she is pictured with fatass Michael Moore.

127 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:02:57pm

re: #119 hazzyday

Zombie's Alley report had the same horror effect on me as Psycho.

Echo that. It must be seen, but for those who venture into that post, you won't believe your frickin' eyes.

128 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:05:14pm

I have a dog - rescued, and we didn't know what the heck she was. We thought at first she was some sort of coyote mix - you know some coyote made a deal with a Chihuahua - "hey babe, I'm really horny, I won't kill you if you'll......" Surprise, surprise, we found out that she is a Carolina Dog (aka American Dingo). Looked up some websites and there was our Sydney! Found on the streets of Downey, Ca (of all hideous, industrial places) and made her way to us. Now that she's been socialized, she's awesome. And from looking at Carolina Dog sites, very typey.

129 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:06:09pm

re: #126 Tarkus289

Madonna looks good for the first time in years, that is because she is pictured with fatass Michael Moore.



Have you seen her lately?

130 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:07:09pm

re: #126 Tarkus289

Madonna looks good for the first time in years, that is because she is pictured with fatass Michael Moore.

Madonna has a good "doctor." She must have had a lot done. Looks completely different from 80's Madonna and she was no growing young thing back then.

/cat mode off.

131 BlueCanuck  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:07:21pm

re: #129 Noam Sayin'

OMG, what's she been doing? That has to be the scariest picture of her that I have ever seen.

132 Tarkus289  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:07:53pm

re: #129 Noam Sayin'

Well, thanks to that photo, I have. I was referring to the one on Drudge right now, with makeup.

133 Neo Con since 9-11  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:09:46pm

re: #125 Fenway_Nation

re: #123 Neo Con since 9-11


Was it a woman that the Prophet Muhammed would marry?

/No Miss Universe pageants in Lagos for a while....

No, she appear older than 9.

134 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:11:03pm

re: #43 solomonpanting

Texas set to defy World Court with execution

God Bless Texas!

stay in Mexico, and you won't have this problem.

135 Noam Sayin'  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:11:26pm

re: #132 Tarkus289

That's clearly an old photo. Mikey Moore hasn't looked that good since Farenheit. The evil is eating his sould from the inside.

136 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:12:29pm

re: #128 Russkilitlover

I have a dog - rescued, and we didn't know what the heck she was. We thought at first she was some sort of coyote mix - you know some coyote made a deal with a Chihuahua - "hey babe, I'm really horny, I won't kill you if you'll......" Surprise, surprise, we found out that she is a Carolina Dog (aka American Dingo). Looked up some websites and there was our Sydney! Found on the streets of Downey, Ca (of all hideous, industrial places) and made her way to us. Now that she's been socialized, she's awesome. And from looking at Carolina Dog sites, very typey.

since when is Downey "industrial"?

/that was the affluent suburb i *wanted* to grow up in, rather than where i did. %-)

137 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:13:26pm

re: #122 pbird

Well actually, I used to have a wooly old bastard who would catch and eat cats while I was yelling at him to stop.

he'd die in my yard.

138 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:15:21pm

re: #75 jcm

Good night one and all!


A stone thrown at the right time is better than gold given at the wrong time.
Persian Proverb

The Irony is strong with that one, given the source, and the current political climate...

/throws stone squarely at the bridge of Ahmedinejad's nose

139 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:16:31pm

re: #110 tradewind

Charles....
The chief of police in my 'large Southern city' has filed suit against AOL in an attempt to force them to provide names and email addresses of a blog that criticizes the PD.....does this have a chance?
Sounds dangerously close to China's internet policy to me.

i think someone needs to send the chief a copy of the 1st Amendment.

i'd also include a long list of valid criticisms, my name, address, and my lawyers contact info, but that's just me. %-)

140 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:17:53pm

re: #136 redc1c4

It must have been a while since you've seen Downey. It was not very suburban or nice when my dad was in aerospace in Downey in the 60's and 70's. And now? Long Beach port proximity has pretty much turned this area industrial and necessary, but not so desirable.

141 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:18:40pm

re: #69 jcm

Sometimes size doesn't matter. I've had the distinct impression with cats that they're wondering what I would taste like.

Chicken, maybe?

How 'bout some fish?

142 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:19:28pm

re: #131 BlueCanuck

OMG, what's she been doing? That has to be the scariest picture of her that I have ever seen.

getting older, eating wrong (fad diets of some ilk is my guess) overdoing portions of the w*rkout & ignoring others and too much surgery.

the key is to age *gracefully*, or just say "screw it": she's busy trying to stop the clock, and that ain't gonna happen.

143 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:21:07pm

re: #66 BlueCanuck

Cats, big cats mind you, are the only predator that will actively stalk a human. Makes you wonder what their little cousins are thinking.

I've noticed that my cats have two modes, "Pet" and "Wild". The latter mode is visible when the cats are falling asleep, or when they get to do "wild" things when they think nobody is watching. The giveaway is in the eyes. If your cat's eyes look like the lions on TV, your cat is in "Wild" mode.

One of mine likes to jump up on the table and steal chicken bones while I'm clearing the plates from dinner. I let her do it (I pretend not to see) but I have noticed that when she steals bones, she gets that look in her eyes that tells you "This is Wild Cat, your pet is not here right now".

144 victor_yugo  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:21:20pm

re: #92 zombie

I'm doubtful about that Nigerian proverb. Mice, cats, holes in wooden walls -- those are not endemic to Nigeria. Cats, if any, were brought by the British, as were the house-construction techniques that involved the kind of wooden walls that could acquire holes. As for mice -- well, I guess there must be mice in central Africa, but they're not the same mice we're familiar with that live in an urban setting.

If it is indeed a "Nigerian" proverb, it probably comes from the British occupation era. But even that seems far-fetched.

African wildcats (ancestors to the common domesticated cats) are found all over Africa. The sub-genus Nannomys is found in northern Nigeria. And nowhere does the proverb state that the mouse's hole was in a wooden structure. It may be in a grain store, or simply a hole in the ground.

145 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:22:48pm

re: #143 Pawn of the Oppressor

LOL! I've seen that look. You've got it - spot on!

146 pbird  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:23:20pm

re: #137 redc1c4

he'd die in my yard.

You'll notice I said "had".

147 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:23:31pm

re: #140 Russkilitlover

It must have been a while since you've seen Downey. It was not very suburban or nice when my dad was in aerospace in Downey in the 60's and 70's. And now? Long Beach port proximity has pretty much turned this area industrial and necessary, but not so desirable.

nicer than anything west of the 710, which was where i was. granted, it wasn't Huntington Beach or Mission Viejo, but it beat the hell out of my AO. still have shildhood friends who live there, and the parents are still in Purgatory.

148 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:25:57pm

re: #147 redc1c4

nicer than anything west of the 710, which was where i was. granted, it wasn't Huntington Beach or Mission Viejo, but it beat the hell out of my AO. still have shildhood friends who live there, and the parents are still in Purgatory.

Mission Viejo? You've heard of it? That's where I grew up - moved in in '66 (i was just a wee lass) when MV was about 50 homes.

149 Karridine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:27:33pm

re: #134 redc1c4

God Bless Texas!

stay in Mexico, and you won't have this problem.

Actually, Red, we can say "Stay away from raping, beating, stabbing and killing people and you won't have this problem!"

/Mexicans upset because he allegedly 'didn't have access to the Mexican consulate when he was arrested for the beating, rape and MURDER of two girls...

as if the consulate could have brought them back to life!

150 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:28:01pm

got another whole sirloin tip to slice, and a whole pork loin to get in the frig to slice tomorrow...... they will join the 4 pork butts i pulled yesterday.

bbiab.

/beer to drink too! %-)


all i have to do tomorrow is cook chili, and there's 5 beer butt chickens to do on tuesday.

151 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:29:50pm

re: #150 redc1c4

"Beer butt chickens"? Do I even want to know.....?

152 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:30:29pm

re: #148 Russkilitlover

Mission Viejo? You've heard of it? That's where I grew up - moved in in '66 (i was just a wee lass) when MV was about 50 homes.

213 area code native..... when that was the only AC in town. i'm a Valley Dude these days, but yeah, i remember going to MV and wishing we could move there. multicultural is one thing, but being the only anything sucks big time.

153 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:36:09pm

re: #152 redc1c4

213 area code native..... when that was the only AC in town. i'm a Valley Dude these days, but yeah, i remember going to MV and wishing we could move there. multicultural is one thing, but being the only anything sucks big time.

I'll bet you can at least pronounce it. I can't tell you how may times I patiently had to spell it out to out of California folks! I graduated MV High, we were the Diablos! Our logo was a cool looking....well...diablo! Now it's a goofy PC cherub looking thingy. Ugh!

154 Karridine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:37:18pm

Mishin Veecho!

/hey! how did you know I'm not from around here?

155 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:38:36pm

re: #131 BlueCanuck

It looks like she's been working out with weights and cutting way back on calories. Also, I think the lighting isn't the best, so that amplifies the gaunt look a bit.

156 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:39:16pm

re: #151 Russkilitlover

"Beer butt chickens"? Do I even want to know.....?

oh hell yes you do: i don't even like chicken all that much anymore (thank you US Army %-) and this stuff rocks.

get your basic whole chicken, rinse it out and remove all the spare parts.

take a can of beer, or soda (Dr Pepper, lemon lime, orange, grape, Cactus Cooler for example) and drink it down to about 1/3-1/2. you may add spices, or salad dressing to the liquid at this time. take have an orange, lime, lemon, apple or any other fruit you think will w*rk, or a potato piece, and use it to plug the small hole where the neck used to be.

then place the can inside the large opening of the bird, so that the body is held upright on the grill. they make stands that result in a more stable bird, and they are well worth the 5-10 bucks to purchase.

cook bird over fire as usual, and the heat will cause the liquid to constantly baste the bird as it cooks. i do them on my Weber Smokey Mountain, and they are killer with guava or kiawae (sp?) wood from Hawaii. hickory and apple are good too, as is pecan.

157 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:39:49pm

re: #155 Archimedes

It looks like she's been working out with weights and cutting way back on calories. Also, I think the lighting isn't the best, so that amplifies the gaunt look a bit.

Steroids aren't so nice for the complexion either. Not that I know anything, but she's awfully tight, gaunt, ripped for her age.....

158 Archimedes  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:40:19pm

re: #141 FurryOldGuyJeans

The eagle shot is a rare treat.

159 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:40:49pm

re: #144 victor_yugo

African wildcats (ancestors to the common domesticated cats) are found all over Africa.

I was under the impression that they were originally from the northern fringes of the Sahara desert, mostly. Not from the sub-Saharan region. Not that I'm a cat distribution expert.

160 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:41:07pm

re: #156 redc1c4

wow! thanks! always on the lookout for tasty recipes. I'll give this one a try!

161 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:41:24pm

re: #149 Karridine

Actually, Red, we can say "Stay away from raping, beating, stabbing and killing people and you won't have this problem!"

/Mexicans upset because he allegedly 'didn't have access to the Mexican consulate when he was arrested for the beating, rape and MURDER of two girls...

as if the consulate could have brought them back to life!

actually, if he'd stayed in Mexico, he could have done all those things and not faced the death penalty.....(unless someone hired a killer. %-)

162 Russkilitlover  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:42:42pm

Must...sleep...now. 'Night all!

163 Karridine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:44:15pm

re: #161 redc1c4

Oook.

Din't know that.

164 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:44:39pm

Actually, we're both wrong: Now that I look it up, African wildcats are found in most places in Africa except Nigeria. Weird!

165 Karridine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:45:49pm

re: #161 redc1c4

I'm not GLAD about putting a human to death (and I use the word 'human' under duress, in this case) but I'm all for telling the 'World Court' where to get off, Red!

166 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:47:07pm

re: #160 Russkilitlover

wow! thanks! always on the lookout for tasty recipes. I'll give this one a try!

try here and here.

emphasis is on "low & slow" traditional BBQ, and the 2nd one only seems to w*rk in IE, but the collected wisdom there is priceless.

if you want to get fat just looking at your monitor, subscribe to this you tube channel. he's a great guy, and boy howdy, can he cook.

btw: if the drool shorts out your keyboard, i'm not liable. %-)

167 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:49:23pm

re: #165 Karridine

I'm not GLAD about putting a human to death (and I use the word 'human' under duress, in this case) but I'm all for telling the 'World Court' where to get off, Red!

never meant to imply i was "glad" but heinous crimes need stern punishment. the "world court' can GFT.

168 redc1c4  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:50:13pm

bbiab..... meat is calling, and i'm thirsty!

169 zombie  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:50:59pm

re: #165 Karridine

I'm not GLAD about putting a human to death (and I use the word 'human' under duress, in this case) but I'm all for telling the 'World Court' where to get off, Red!

I just finished watching the film "Longford," about a British politician who spends his life advocating for prisoners in England, and spends the latter part of his life defending serial killer Myra Hindley. The filmmakers I think were trying to make an English version of "Dead Man Walking" in which we're supposed to feel sympathy for the killer and idolize those who seek to help the killer "find redemption," but the film spectacularly failed in its moonbat mission, and the viewer only ends up despising Hindley and wishing she had been executed, and pitying the buffoonish Longford (the politician) for being such an naive ignorant tool.

170 pegcity  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:52:42pm

re: #169 zombie

thats what i got out of it as well, he was a leftard tool and like the pali lovers could not see the error of his ways

171 TheMatrix31  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:55:03pm

Wow. I'm loving that Texas story about that piece of trash.

As if I could want to move from L.A. any more than I already do.

The World Court has no jurisdiction here in Texas. We're concerned about following Texas law and that's what we're doing.

I wish CA had balls like this, too. Hell, I wish the country had balls like TX.

172 Fenway_Nation  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:56:27pm

re: #171 TheMatrix31

Well....no more Tookie williams at least...

173 pat  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:58:00pm

re: #144 victor_yugo

African wildcats (ancestors to the common domesticated cats) are found all over Africa. The sub-genus Nannomys is found in northern Nigeria. And nowhere does the proverb state that the mouse's hole was in a wooden structure. It may be in a grain store, or simply a hole in the ground.

Not to be particular, but the modern house cat originated in Spain, from a mountain species that itself came from Africa prior to modern man. So in fact Africa has many cat analogs that would behave similarly as a house cat, a creature well known in Egypt, that was imported in prehistoric times. As for mice, Africa not only has mice as we think of them, but many other species that would be categorized similarly by anyone.
A long way of saying you are correct.

174 Karridine  Sun, Aug 3, 2008 11:59:17pm

re: #169 zombie

Redc, I didn't think you were, for even a moment!

Zombie, that happens sometimes... moonbat propaganda goes terribly awry, and film-goers who can stand to view the schlock get a huge dose of pandering, Poor Prisoner! Audiences take away what you did: Murdering scumbag, naive politico and slimy 'defender'...

175 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:01:39am

re: #174 Karridine

And for the record, Baha'u'llah confirms that society has a right and responsibility to protect itself, and a system of justice CAN lead to the death penalty.

176 LeePro  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:07:02am

re: #161 redc1c4

actually, if he'd stayed in Mexico, he could have done all those things and not faced the death penalty.....(unless someone hired a killer. %-)

See here.

Excerpts:

His attorneys contend Medellin was denied the protections of the Vienna Convention, which calls for people arrested to have access to their home country's consular officials. He has been in the United States since the age of 3.
Medellin's lawyers went to the Supreme Court after the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, the state's highest criminal court, refused to stop the lethal injection. The justices ruled in March that neither the President nor the international court can force Texas' hand.

/jus' sayin'

177 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:13:45am

I'm against the death penalty for human beings...but I also believe that anyone who has consciously committed murder has forfeited his humanity and ceased having a soul, so they have lost any protection from being killed themselves. As far as I'm concerned, put 'em in the meat grinder and feed 'em to the guard dogs who patroi the perimeter of Death Row. I care as much about the fate of first-degree murderers as I do about the cantaloupe rind in my garbage.

178 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:13:53am

re: #176 LeePro

For all intents and purposes an American, but when caught he scrabbles for a loophole!

/where was the loophole for yr victims, Medellin?

179 RTLM  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:15:52am

Looks to me like a nice, large, justified: FUCK YOU to the world court, Mexico and President Bush on this particular execution. Get with it Sir... Please get on the same team - with all due respect.

(now how about Ramos and Campion ? )

180 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:16:31am

re: #177 zombie

An interesting way of perceiving it, Zomboid...

/having relinquished his humanity, he passes beyond the pale OF humanity, and hence is not qualified for human mercy. May God have mercy on his 'soul'...

181 LeePro  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:18:59am

re: #177 zombie

I'm against the death penalty for human beings...but I also believe that anyone who has consciously committed murder has forfeited his humanity and ceased having a soul, so they have lost any protection from being killed themselves. As far as I'm concerned, put 'em in the meat grinder and feed 'em to the guard dogs who patroi the perimeter of Death Row. I care as much about the fate of first-degree murderers as I do about the cantaloupe rind in my garbage.

Excellent differentiation! Another Zombie jewel!
;D


re: #178 Karridine

For all intents and purposes an American, but when caught he scrabbles for a loophole!

/where was the loophole for yr victims, Medellin?

Agreed.
And often as not, that loophole fits perfectly around their sorry little scrawny necks!

182 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:22:47am

re: #181 LeePro

A just and fair loophole, Lee!

"On the good ship 6-Foot Drop
its a long stretch when you kill a cop
and the Bad Guys say
'Its a pain that NEVER goes away!'"

/apologies "Good Ship Lollipop"

183 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:23:53am

Gotta do some chores. Back in a few hours, Midnite Crew!

Man the barricades!

184 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:24:27am

re: #183 Karridine

On guard for thee, and thee, and me.

185 LeePro  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:26:46am

Late night ceiling fan and cool soft pillow calling...

    ¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

G'nite, {Beloved Lizards}!

186 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:30:13am

re: #185 LeePro

Night {LeePro}, weet dreams.

187 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:46:57am

Ruh-roh! This thread is deader than a Tookie Williams!

188 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:49:23am

Ugh, I didn't realize how ugly some of those ID/EV threads can get.

189 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:55:31am

So......what's everyone else been up to besides posting on this here blog. :)

190 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:57:32am

re: #189 BlueCanuck

Apparently we're not even doing that!

191 Rkrocket  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:57:34am

Wow! What a great quote - thanks.

192 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:59:34am

re: #190 Fenway_Nation

Yeah, the whole blog seems to go into pause this time of the morning. Didn't used to be this way.

193 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:01:49am

re: #176 LeePro

knew about that....... it's always good to see the courts get something right.

/sidebar:
been cooking Q all weekend long, and so far it's all so tender you could enjoy it too, if'n you weren't so dang far away. i'll make up a plate for ya anyway. %-)

194 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:02:54am

re: #193 redc1c4

You keep teasing. One of these days I will be posting on a EVDO and drop in.

/on the other hand maybe not. I like my skin unventilated.

195 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:03:32am

It's from Xinhua, so take it for what it's worth, but looks like the restive Xinjiang province in the western reigon of China just got a little more restive today.

196 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:04:08am

re: #177 zombie

I'm against the death penalty for human beings...but I also believe that anyone who has consciously committed murder has forfeited his humanity and ceased having a soul, so they have lost any protection from being killed themselves. As far as I'm concerned, put 'em in the meat grinder and feed 'em to the guard dogs who patroi the perimeter of Death Row. I care as much about the fate of first-degree murderers as I do about the cantaloupe rind in my garbage.

can we add people who rape children or produce kiddy pr0n, those who commit treason and terrorists to the list?

197 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:08:09am

re: #194 BlueCanuck

You keep teasing. One of these days I will be posting on a EVDO and drop in.

/on the other hand maybe not. I like my skin unventilated.

guests are always welcome......sneaky people, not so much. either knock on the front door or holler over the driveway fence, since we're more often than not out back by the pool.

besides, we always ID targets before servicing them. too much paperw*rk otherwise...... %-)

198 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:12:13am

re: #197 redc1c4

I will keep that in mind. But I would give you tons of prep time.

/I would probably look for the house with the razor wire and defensive positions.

199 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:16:56am

re: #198 BlueCanuck

I will keep that in mind. But I would give you tons of prep time.

/I would probably look for the house with the razor wire and defensive positions.

that's too obvious...... just look for the one on the block that doesn't look like anyone else's. ( i do have a berm out front, but it's disguised as a "terrain enhancement", or whatever they call it.%-)

200 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:18:10am

re: #199 redc1c4

Ah, your very own grassy knoll.

201 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:23:50am

re: #200 BlueCanuck

Ah, your very own grassy knoll.

huh? this is a freaking desert, no matter what people think. the only grass we have is in back, under the big trees, and it's a long stem CA native that doesn't need much water. i killed that freaking front lawn years ago.

/lots of bushes for cover

(wanna buy a lawnmower? %-)

202 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:25:35am

re: #201 redc1c4

Okay so your knoll isn't grassy, but it's still a knoll.

203 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:28:30am

re: #202 BlueCanuck

Okay so your knoll isn't grassy, but it's still a knoll.

no, it's a berm...... and with a little bit of judicious digging, it's a mutually supporting position. unfortunately, sillyvillian razor wire is $110/spool......

good news is we have stand off from the main drag, and not much cover on the approaches.

204 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:34:44am

Fu*k Ya'll, We're from Texas

think i'll send this to the local mexican counsul %-)

205 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:39:33am

You can tell good punk, fast, short, and to the point.

206 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:42:19am

re: #202 BlueCanuck

Just a tad early for dirty tawkin', donja think?

207 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:43:29am

re: #206 littleoldlady

I see red is corrupting you too. :)

208 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:44:55am

I was such a nice girl.

/...once upon a time...
//...a long time ago...
///...in a faraway land...

;-)

209 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:45:41am

re: #181 LeePro

I used to work in a convience store on I-45 north twixt Airline and Tidwell. Passed thru the area this happened in on the way to and from work. What those a**holes did to those two girls defies description.

All of those punks deserve hanging, not the needle.

210 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:45:56am

re: #205 BlueCanuck

You can tell good punk, fast, short, and to the point.

it's a long video, but that's because they play more than one song......

211 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:46:25am

You know what they say, littleoldlady- Powerball corrupts....

212 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:47:13am

re: #209 FamHistoryGuy

I used to work in a convience store on I-45 north twixt Airline and Tidwell. Passed thru the area this happened in on the way to and from work. What those a**holes did to those two girls defies description.

All of those punks deserve hanging, not the needle.

how about a fire ant hill?

213 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:47:25am

re: #211 Fenway_Nation

...and absolute Powerball corrupts absolutely.

/from my lips to G-d's ears!

214 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:48:17am

re: #207 BlueCanuck

I see red is corrupting you too. :)

and the fruit cup: wait until you try tonight's....... %-)

215 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:51:28am

re: #208 littleoldlady

I was such a nice girl.

/...once upon a time...
//...a long time ago...
///...in a faraway land...

;-)

and here we were hoping you were a bad girl...... %-(

216 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:52:47am

re: #215 redc1c4

I was that, too.

217 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:53:26am

re: #212 redc1c4

Private justice yes, public justice needs to be done correctly. Making them walk the mile, mount the scaffold and have the noose adjusted should be enough.

218 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:57:43am

re: #217 FamHistoryGuy

Private justice yes, public justice needs to be done correctly. Making them walk the mile, mount the scaffold and have the noose adjusted should be enough.

aren't you the spoil sport...... %-)

can we at least let the family drop the trap?

219 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:58:19am

re: #216 littleoldlady

I was that, too.

WOOT!

%-)

220 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->
Help yourselves!

221 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:02:19am

re: #218 redc1c4

I know that some of them would volunteer for the job. As would I.

222 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:04:27am

re: #220 littleoldlady

good morning.

223 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:04:42am

re: #3 mikalm

given the hatred of the far left I am not supprised by this terrorism I AM SUPPRISED THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN MORE OF IT.

224 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:06:00am

re: #220 littleoldlady

I was wondering what the sound of scales moving to much was about thought i might have missed lizard mating season again. i should have known it was FRUIT CUP.

225 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:06:03am

re: #223 yochanan

They got distracted after the latest pot harvests.

/might be running out now so they have more energy.

226 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:06:57am

re: #224 yochanan

Yeah, all 42 of us.


/slow night as usual.

227 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:07:31am

re: #222 FamHistoryGuy

Howdy! :-)

Have you had your fruitcup?

228 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:08:31am

re: #224 yochanan

yochanan! :-)

More dirty tawkin'... ;-)

229 freetoken  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:11:39am

re: #220 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ------------->
Help yourselves!

Hooray!

230 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:15:01am

freetoken! :-)

Bwhaha!

re: #226 BlueCanuck

I hate to pressure you guys, but could you get more interesting, please? I need some good material for my email-du-jour to Miguel.

231 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:15:29am

re: #227 littleoldlady

Not yet. Just had oreos and am waiting for the coffee to make. I am sure it will be delightful.

232 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:17:35am

re: #231 FamHistoryGuy

OREOS?!

/don't you know we SHARE stuff like that on the Dead Thread?!
//didn't you go to kindergarten!?

233 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:17:56am

re: #230 littleoldlady

Well I don't know about interesting, could you send him a link to a soap opera? :)

234 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:19:39am

re: #230 littleoldlady

GOT TONED DOWN after zombies lastest posting.
totally grossed out.

235 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:19:47am

re: #230 littleoldlady

Well, I do have a naked lady here using a tubing cutter and pvc to make a "Dead Fred" zombie for Halloween.

236 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:21:13am

re: #232 littleoldlady

I missed kindergarten and learned to share ordnance instead of cookies.

237 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:22:11am

busy day today.... should have already hit the rack.

if'n i'm not here the next night or two, blame the National Night Out

L8r!

238 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:22:39am

re: #235 FamHistoryGuy

The man had a stroke, for goodness sakes!

239 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:24:11am

re: #236 FamHistoryGuy

I missed kindergarten and learned to share ordnance instead of cookies.

one should never share with ordnance..... just give: early, often and until there's no resistance. %-)

/then 3 more salvos

240 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:25:35am

re: #238 littleoldlady

Well you could send him some picture links.

241 redc1c4  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:25:42am

re: #238 littleoldlady

The man had a stroke, for goodness sakes!

tell him sympathy is in the dictionary: it's right between "shit" & "syphilis".... and that i asked "que paso, cabron?"

/tough love

242 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:26:14am

re: #238 littleoldlady

Give him my best wishes for a speedy recovery. Of course that means staying away from the tele novellas and game shows.

243 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:30:36am

re: #239 redc1c4

I usually put the ordinance on the plane and let the pilot/aircrew do the delivery. Only in the convenience store do I do the personal delivery part. I found out that yes, you shoud always give something that starts with a .4 and as many times as needed.

244 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:32:42am

BBIAB, time to get some exercise.

245 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:33:06am

re: #240 BlueCanuck

Those photos are great, Blue! I bet you could find a gallery interested in showing them.

re: #242 FamHistoryGuy

I will. :-)

246 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:36:55am

currenttly triming up my NO BAMA hebrew bumper stickers.

247 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:37:46am

Take a look at rockbottomcemetery.com That is the Halloween prop site. You might see someone you knew there.

248 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:38:50am

given the amount of anti obama and pro mccain and rudy stickers i have put up in my part of chicago i bet i have piss off some donks

249 littleoldlady  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:43:12am

yochanan,

Did you see this in the spinoff links a couple of days ago?

250 freetoken  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:48:28am

re: #230 littleoldlady

I hate to pressure you guys, but could you get more interesting, please? I need some good material for my email-du-jour to Miguel.


Oh... I've got lots of interesting stuff... mostly links... many ... ummmm... of marginally clad young women... but it may not be so good to raise his blood pressure while he is recovering...

Another Pucca short that is cute.

Oh... and a nice version of Dies Irae.

251 Luigi  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:50:53am

The most articulate police officer I've ever heard absolutely nails the 'animal rights' terrorists who firebombed the home of a Santa Cruz family who's parents do biological research on mice.

Firebombed UCSC researcher speaks out
[Link: www.mercurynews.com...]

[Steve] Clark, the Santa Cruz police captain, said it was "unconscionable'' for anyone to defend such acts: "To put this on par with any of the human rights issues is an absolute insult to the integrity of the people who fought and went through the human rights movement. This is what people do when they have an inability to articulate their point in any constructive way. They resort to primal acts of violence. Any reasonable person would need a logic transplant to begin to understand this level of degraded thinking."

This so called "animal rights" movement has lost the right to continue. We need this research done. Like oil exploration, if we don't do it here, they will do it overseas, or not at all. If I was at smart as that cop I would clearly explain how there is not a hair's breadth of difference between the liberals who bomb researchers home and Nazis.

252 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:50:53am

i have also been printing up stickers that say b.s. and NO! BULL
which come in handy on moonbat propaganda up in evanston ill.

253 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:04:26am

in the middle of moonbat land some one put up a reagan sticker and since it was done way out of moonbat reach it is still up there give me a smile every time i see it.

somewere i have a reagan button in hebrew.

254 Tamron  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:06:32am

OT, but DANG ME:

The Sunday Times
August 3, 2008
ROYAL BANK OF SCOTLAND POISED FOR BIGGEST LOSS IN UK BANKING HISTORY

The Royal Bank of Scotland is poised to unveil the biggest loss in UK banking history after taking a hit of almost £6 billion from the credit crisis.

Britain’s second-largest bank is this week expected to reveal a pre-tax loss of at least £1 billion for the first six months of the year, with analysts warning it could slide to as much as £1.7 billion in the red.

The loss would be roughly five times higher than the deficit racked up by Barclays in 1992 at the height of the last recession.....

255 FamHistoryGuy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:06:45am

Good night all. Getting difficult to read the screen, so off to take a nap. Y'all have a good morning/day depending on time zone.

256 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:07:58am

re: #251 Luigi

i like my quadraped BBQ MEDIUM RARE.

257 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:09:46am

re: #254 Tamron

SOME OF THESE BANKS AND LENDING COMPANIES JUST GOT TO GREEDY.

how did that work out for them.
if it seems to good to be true it isn't sort of like obama pie in the sky

258 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:11:57am

And I am back. Will need more walking later. But do that on the way home.

259 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:13:21am

re: #258 BlueCanuck

blue were in canukistan are you? just wondering if you will be able to take those famous walks in the winter?

260 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:13:50am

re: #245 littleoldlady

Thank you. Not bad for an amateur with a crappy digitgal camera. :)

I finally heard from my brother in China today. He got a personal internet account for home. So now I can actually communicate with him on a regular basis. Two e-mails in a single day. That's a record breaker.

261 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:14:01am

i for one love to take long walks in the cold and snow the snow and cold keep the rift raft away.

262 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:14:05am

Good morning lizards. Obama loves Europe, eh? And the EU, no doubt. This morning, EU Referendum points to a Christopher Booker column in the Telegraph about this infuriating story about two fishermen whose property (nearly everything) will be seized by the (lackey) state because they were found to have caught more fish than EU directives allow. The infuriating thing is that EU directives themselves set too high a quota of fish for UK fishermen to catch overall, but too low a quota for these particular fishermen to make a living -- so the EU is thereby punishing these innocent fisherman for its own stupidities, and the punishment is effectively seizure of all their assets.

Read the Booker column. This is what socialism does, and this is the direction Obama wants to move the USA.

263 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:15:07am

re: #259 yochanan

Toronto Ontario. It depends on the winter and the snow removal. Only if I walk from the Subway to my place and vice versa, that would be about forty minutes of walking there alone.

/I could extend it and go to the next subway stop.

264 freetoken  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:15:29am

re: #254 Tamron

There is a huge amount of bad real estate loans out there... not just in the US. Monday's NYT has a new article about the anticipated second wave (here in the US) of foreclosures, this time on pricier property.

265 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:18:56am

re: #263 BlueCanuck

been to toronto a number of times did not feel all that different from chicago. just you lake is in a different direction which took a few mins to figure out.

as a tourist i loved going to quebec city in the winter spent a couple of weeks there in a couple of winters. even with all the hills and all the walking i still gained weight. the quebecers are good at food and beer.

266 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:20:40am

greed has always been a human problem people almost always want more than they can afford. and then there are the crupt democrat pols who used there positions on the banking comm to allow it and to personally benifit.

267 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:22:22am

re: #265 yochanan

Yeah, Quebec food is like rural french cusine. Got to watch what you eat and do when you're there. I swear I gained about ten pounds when I did an exchange program in high school.

268 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:28:26am

If anyone this morning is as much amused (and then enraged) by examples of idiotic socialist bureaucracy, Booker has this priceless gem:

Our friends in the European Commission never give up. Again last week they were trying to publicise that EU-wide "112" emergency telephone number which, since 1991, they have been hoping would replace emergency numbers such as 999.

I first wrote about this in 1996 when, after its first year of use in the UK, it was reported there had been 2 million 112 calls, 300,000 of which remained silent when answered. The police had to investigate each one. Only 500 were genuine cries for help.

In 2005 I wrote about this farce again when a Home Office question to test the eligibility of immigrants for citizenship was to identify the 112 number. Not one answered correctly. Now the EU has launched a special 112 website to publicise its number. Particularly interesting is the section recording the success of it in each member state.

For the UK, it says that 93 per cent of 112 calls made on landlines are hoaxes, "calls made inadvertently" or "not related to a real emergency". It is hardly surprising that our police have no time to catch criminals.

Therefore, this EU intervention is not only a failure on its own: it bogs down police and thereby makes the UK less able to respond to real emergencies.

But hey, having different emergency numbers in different countries is to have too many "walls." Lets have more leaders who want to knock them all down, then we can look to them as the Great Leaders who will save us from the chaos they themselves create.

269 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:40:45am

re: #267 BlueCanuck

i expected the food to be good i remember going to what was a greasy spoon and having beef welington for 7$ and it was great the only thing wrong was that the peas as a side dish came from a can and weren't fresh but for 7$ which at the time was 5.50 american who could complain.

big suprise was that the beer was great too. they even served it at the international youth hostel were i stayed in english speaking canada they don't serve beer or wine at the hostels.

270 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:42:04am

re: #267 BlueCanuck

most quebecers came from normandy back in the 17th century which is one of the reasons real french can't understand them all that well.

271 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:44:56am

Good morning all

272 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:45:26am

re: #269 yochanan

My biggest culture shock was the dinner table of the student I stayed with. Wine was poured for all over the age of twelve. I heard of things like that but never witnessed it. Alcohol flowed like water the week I was there. We were also allowed to smoke in the cafeteria at the high school. Major culture shock.

/of course at that time I didn't smoke.

273 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:54:58am

Hmm, died down again. Anybody out there?

274 Ledger1  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:55:06am

re: #171 TheMatrix31

We [CA] have the death penalty – but when Arnie tried to execute someone with lethal injection, some clever lawyer objected to it because the person doing the injecting was not a medical doctor and it was inhumane. Then no medical doctor would touch that case.

That’s were it stands now.



Fate of lethal injection

275 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:56:31am

except for the color of the money (and now a days our money is much more colorful) and some of the street signs my part of Chicago and Toronto are not different at all. in places like Alberta an American might not even see any differences. Quebec on the other hand did feel like a different country.

to me each Canadian Provence is as different from each other Provence than most of them are from America with the exception of Quebec. the maritime seem like new england, Ontario seems Midwestern, Alberta western and b.c. like our west coast states esp Washington state and Oregon. southern Cali is in a world of itself.

276 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:57:17am

still here blue

277 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:01:20am

re: #275 yochanan

Actually B.C. is our California. Alberta would compare to Texas. Quebec is definitely a world all by it's lonesome.

278 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:07:14am

re: #277 BlueCanuck

seemed more like Seattle or maybe northern Cali moonbats and Chinese in both places and the weather is similar southern Cali is getting Spanish separatism and doesn't feel American anymore at least the parts i was in.

i was recently in Montana and it seems the teenagers in Montana go up to Alberta because of the nite life no cities in Montana to speak of.

279 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:09:05am

is the chinese population still growing or has ti stablized?

280 Ledger1  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:18:07am

re: #195 Fenway_Nation

I was in that Xinjiang province about 3.5 years ago. At many of the famous Buddhist temples you are required to go metal detectors and my tour guide girl had her purse searched for explosives. I had heard of a few terrorist attacks but I did not know of the extent of said attacks.

The Chinese usually deal quite harshly with them. I the mid 1990s I understood after a terror attack the Chinese police would round up 500 to 1000 suspects and just shoot them with cameras rolling. That usually put an end to the terror attacks.

I do have some stories of Muslim Chinese trying to rip me off – but that will have to wait until another time.

[More on Chinese handling of terrorists]

The "Strike Hard" anti-crime campaign launched in 1996 was announced as an initiative to answer citizens' legitimate concerns about rising crime through a high-intensity series of high-profile police actions. The "Strike Hard" campaign never officially came to an end, though it faded from the scene in most urban areas. In minority areas, however, it is a different story. Particularly in Xinjiang province, home to the Muslim Uighur nationality, the "Strike Hard" work appears to be going full-tilt, clearly a tool being used to justify harsh measures against political activists, including many well publicized executions of accused pro-independence activists.

On the eve of Ramadan on 05 February 1997 in Ghulja, believers were offended by the arrests of 30 prestigious religious leaders by the Chinese Government. Six hundred young people took to the streets, walking toward city government, demanding release of those religious figures. On their way, they were stopped by police and the paramilitary forces. Police violently dispersed crowds using electrical clubs, water cannon, and tear gas in the freezing day. The second day, an even bigger demonstration was held after Uighurs all over town heard about the incident. Chinese police and paramilitary forces were ordered to shoot to the crowd, and killed 167 people, and succeeded in suppressing the rally. Afterwards, the Chinese policemen arrested over 5,000 demonstrators, including elder, young women and children in a single day on the charge of intending to split the motherland, conducting criminal activity, fundamental religious activity, and counter-revolutionary element.

The Chinese Government subsequently made the first open execution of seven Uighurs in order to 'kill the chicken to scare the monkeys.' Chinese military forces loaded them on to the open truck and drove slowly through the busy Uighur bazaar and neighborhoods through a crowd. When the mourners got too close to the trucks, the Chinese soldiers opened fire and killed nine more people.

See: FASorg

281 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:21:35am

i have spent about a year traving all over canada about a dozen different times between 1967 and 2006 been from victoria, b.c. to st john's newfoundland and halifax n.s. mostly i traveled by train but also went by bus and in 1970 hitch hikeds. was in quebec when they did the war measrus act. so some of it was rather exciting to say the least. One of the biggest changes i notices was the large increase of chinese esp in toronto and esp in vancouver.

the contrast between victoria and vancouver is almost funny esp given how close they are.

and as a tourist i did not like montreal but did like quebec city but the place in quebec i found most interesting was Tres Rivers (not spelled right) I spent a week there stayed in the local youth hostel in the winter had the place to my self and my son. what was interesting was the contrast between there and montreal snity waiters i can find in chicago. we would go to this local diner in this small quebec town and the two girls who were the waitress did not speak much english and we did not speak french but they really tried to be helpful and i think my son enjoyed flirting with them.

282 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:29:39am

re: #281 yochanan

The chinese immigration has stabilized a bit I think.

Montreal has a bad name all across Canada for rudeness. Well, unless you go to Rue St. Catharines. The party street of the city. And it's Trois Riviers. (Three Rivers.)

283 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:37:38am

i found trois riviers to be a very interesting place one of the things i was was there were doing street repair near the very old church and had found a old skeleton and the scientists were working on it and the construction workers were siting around doing nothing as they were on the gov't dime they did not seem to be too worried about it.

i was in quebec city for mardi gras not the same as N.O. for sure no one is going to flash you for beads when the temp is below zero but it was fun. it was also interesting how fast the removed the snow esp given how hilly quebec city is.

284 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:41:40am

re: #280 Ledger1

i have some sympathy for the Tibetans but does the world really need another islamist state? I DON'T THINK SO. BETTER THE CHI COMS HAVE THE PLACE

285 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:42:46am

re: #273 BlueCanuck

Hmm, died down again. Anybody out there?

Good morning, BlueCanuck! I'm here with my first cup of joe.

286 theatheistjew  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:43:03am

A portrait of insanity. Check this guys profile.
His blog is called Kike Killa

287 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:46:19am

re: #285 lori lane

Morning back at you. :) All the usual suspects are starting to arrive I see. Just in time for me to make my exit. Good day all, stay scaly.

288 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:47:43am

re: #110 tradewind

Charles....
The chief of police in my 'large Southern city' has filed suit against AOL in an attempt to force them to provide names and email addresses of a blog that criticizes the PD.....does this have a chance?
Sounds dangerously close to China's internet policy to me.

Gotta love Memphis. There is a bit of push-back from the blogosphere. And some civil libertarians. But the cops, not so much.

289 Caboose  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:48:15am

It was suggested that I post my script for an ad blasting the Demon-craps for blustering & bolting from their duties last Friday on a live thread, so here ya go. (I am not a speechwriter nor do I play one on TV, but if anyone in the McCain camp wants to run with this, knock yerself out!)

"Is this Congresswoman Pelosi's Democrat Party-led Congresses great plan to get energy costs under control, to threaten arrest, cut off public discussion and desert your post? Is this your grand plan you had in 2006, Nancy? Your party's candidate for President of the USA blocked a plan to merely inventory potential offshore reserves in 2005. Was this part of the plan, Nancy, to ignore our own resources that would help cut dependence on foreign oil? Other countries are drilling in those same offshore deposits, why not us? You say you want to relieve the burden of high energy costs on the little man, but not by following the law of supply and demand by letting Americans supply themselves with their own oil which will create jobs and wealth across the spectrum, but by raising taxes on the oil companies that will just be passed on to that little man you claim to care oh-so-much about. No country has ever taxed its way into prosperity, Nancy. Since when was Congresswoman Pelosi or any other politician given sole decision on how our resources are to be used? If not for us, for who then? When it comes to holding working Americans over an oil barrel, it is hard to tell just who is Americas' worst enemy, OPEC or the Democrats.

"Democrats, quick, bold and decisive when it comes to renaming post offices but completely clueless about solving America's energy crisis. America deserves and should demand better representation of our interests than what Congresswoman Pelosi and her fellow Democrats give.

"Had enough?

"McCain 2008."

290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:48:43am

Every notice that when you read a word wrong; you read it wrong over and over again.

Took me five times reading...

"When the moose laughs at the cat, there’s a hole nearby." -Nigerian Proverb - wondering, "There are Moose in Nigerial?" and "Why the hell would a moose laugh at a cat?"...

before reading

"When the mouse laughs at the cat, there’s a hole nearby." -Nigerian Poverb.

Then it made sense.

The early bird gets the worm; but the second mouse gets the cheese. - Steven Wright

291 songbird  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:50:37am

I can't stay long as I have to get my game face on about work this week.

Did anyone see this interview that Stephanopolis did of Nancy Pelosi!
That woman is doing everything she can to avoid giving a direct answer about why she won't allow an up or down vote about offshore drilling! And she's third in line to the presidency?

292 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:51:51am

re: #286 theatheistjew

A portrait of insanity. Check this guys profile.
His blog is called Kike Killa


OK class the question is what should the local authorities do when someone publicly identifies themselves and makes the statements on that profile and blog?

Please Discuss

293 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:53:29am

re: #94 zombie

BTW, I've just come back from a cannibalistic Satan-worshipping ritual at San Francisco City Hall. Wanna see the pictures?

Sure. Why not?

Good Morning Lizards!

294 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:53:47am

re: #289 Caboose
Good.

295 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:54:54am

re: #94 zombie

BTW, I've just come back from a cannibalistic Satan-worshipping ritual at San Francisco City Hall. Wanna see the pictures?


It's been done.

296 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:55:33am

re: #129 Noam Sayin'


Have you seen her lately?

You know, except for the fact that her teeth are still white, that girl looks just like some white-trash meth addict on a months-long toot. Just before her heart explodes.

If that was caused by diet and exercise, wouldn't there be some muscle in front of those arm bones?

I am not spreading the rumor that Madonna is a meth addict. I'm just saying, is all.

297 Caboose  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:55:38am

re: #294 lifeofthemind

I appreciate your suggestion, thanks!

298 theatheistjew  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:55:40am

re: #292 lifeofthemind

OK class the question is what should the local authorities do when someone publicly identifies themselves and makes the statements on that profile and blog?

Please Discuss

I don't know why blogger allows him to have an account. Local authorities can't stop someone from irrationally hating a group of people though. However, if a hate crime happens in his area, I would be questioning him as a prime suspect.

299 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:56:00am

re: #291 songbird

Did anyone see this interview that Stephanopolis did of Nancy Pelosi!

Yes I saw part of it. Gotta hand it to Stephanopolis for pounding away at her with his questions. She's something else. Sheesh.

300 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:01:11am

re: #298 theatheistjew

I don't know why blogger allows him to have an account. Local authorities can't stop someone from irrationally hating a group of people though. However, if a hate crime happens in his area, I would be questioning him as a prime suspect.

The issue is Free Speech vs. Fighting words and whether there are grounds to consider him a clear danger. You do not have to wait for someone to pick up a gun to act. He is not in America but Australia it says. Also some words can do harm to some parties. The relatives of the dead woman he insulted may have a cause of complaint. I am trying to be provocative on the blogger free speech issue here.

301 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:01:56am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I need to go see the optomalo optometr eye doctor. I keep reading stuff, motoring right along, and then thinking, "wait a minute, that can't be true!?". Invariably when I go back I read it wrong.

But what about those many, many subjects about which I know nothing, not even enough to know when something can't be true?

302 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:01:58am

re: #144 victor_yugo

I've always wondered where those darn cats came from...

303 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:03:35am

re: #299 lori lane

Yes I saw part of it. Gotta hand it to Stephanopolis for pounding away at her with his questions. She's something else. Sheesh.


Remember Stephanopolous is a Clinton creature. There are always wheels within wheels with a Dem on Dem political stabbing.

304 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:04:43am

Good Morning Lizards!

305 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:06:18am

re: #301 razorbacker

I need to go see the optomalo optometr eye doctor. I keep reading stuff, motoring right along, and then thinking, "wait a minute, that can't be true!?". Invariably when I go back I read it wrong.

But what about those many, many subjects about which I know nothing, not even enough to know when something can't be true?

Depending on your politics the answer is
1. Become a blogger and pontificate about your ignorance.
2. Become a journalist and pontificate about your ignorance.
3. Go into government and tell everyone else what to do about it.

306 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:07:56am

re: #303 lifeofthemind

Remember Stephanopolous is a Clinton creature. There are always wheels within wheels with a Dem on Dem political stabbing.

Good point.

307 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:08:32am

re: #304 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards!

Morning, HH! Gonna be hot today.

308 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:09:27am

re: #307 lori lane

Morning, HH! Gonna be hot today.


I heard 90 tuesday...
How are you today?

309 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:10:57am

Morning lizards, iced tea is on me.

310 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:12:10am

re: #308 HoosierHoops

I heard 90 tuesday...
How are you today?

Doing fine. Taking my dad to one of his dr. appts this morning. Between the two of us, we can keep everything straight. Ha! I could have sworn the weather site said 90 here, too, but now it just says a cool 88. What's your world like this morning?

311 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:14:11am

re: #309 lifeofthemind

Morning! I'll save my iced tea for later. Thx! :)

312 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:16:12am

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Every notice that when you read a word wrong; you read it wrong over and over again.

Took me five times reading...

"When the moose laughs at the cat, there’s a hole nearby." -Nigerian Proverb - wondering, "There are Moose in Nigerial?" and "Why the hell would a moose laugh at a cat?"...


Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretty nasti...

313 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:16:39am

re: #310 lori lane

Doing fine. Taking my dad to one of his dr. appts this morning. Between the two of us, we can keep everything straight. Ha! I could have sworn the weather site said 90 here, too, but now it just says a cool 88. What's your world like this morning?

Wouldn't it be nice if every day was 75 degrees?
I'm monitoring network equipment on one monitor and playing on LGF on this one..
and talking on the phone..usual monday..
Had a great BBQ yesterday..

314 theatheistjew  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:17:01am

re: #300 lifeofthemind

The issue is Free Speech vs. Fighting words and whether there are grounds to consider him a clear danger. You do not have to wait for someone to pick up a gun to act. He is not in America but Australia it says. Also some words can do harm to some parties. The relatives of the dead woman he insulted may have a cause of complaint. I am trying to be provocative on the blogger free speech issue here.

There are many crazy people in the world capable of fighting words. You can't lock them all up so you have to wait until they are a physical danger.
As far as hurting someone with words, I think we are all guilty of that at times. Can't walk around on eggshells.
I think a line should be drawn when it comes to calling for the death of people for irrational reasons.

315 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:18:14am

FRANKLY i have never agreed with the ACLU that freespeech is a black and white issue there are plenty of gray areas

316 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:18:56am

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Tell us about the BBQ~

317 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:20:01am

re: #292 lifeofthemind

OK class the question is what should the local authorities do when someone publicly identifies themselves and makes the statements on that profile and blog?

Please Discuss

The disappointing part for me is to read this guy's favorite movies and music.

Except for Matrix, Vikings (been so long I don't really remember), Idiocracy (I don't think I've seen it), and Red Dawn (I recall it as an amusing comic book of a movie) I like those movies.

I've never heard these guys, *Alcholocaust: 'Jew Slaughter'; *Nordic Thunder: 'The H8 Machine'; *Celtic Dawn; *Final Solution; *Keine Gnade, but I like the rest.

As for his books; Billy Shakey, Homer, and poor old Tolkien lumpen in with The Nat Turner Diaries and David Irving's lot! The mind wobbles.

318 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:20:09am

Hmmmm Romney on Morning Joe right now. Said he will be campaigning FOR the ticket, but not ON the ticket...

319 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:20:43am

problem is p.c. standards say some people are free to be racist and others aren't depending on if they are in the protected class or not.

320 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:21:21am

re: #315 yochanan

FRANKLY i have never agreed with the ACLU that freespeech is a black and white issue there are plenty of gray areas


The ACLU sees the 1st Amendment as an absolute right when they agree.'
Speech that they disagree with they often view as hate speech.

321 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:22:21am

would love to see Rep eric cantor on the v.p. ticket just to see the moonbats, neo fascists, and arabs heads explode. go to carl in jerusalem's site he has one of eric speech on. way cool

322 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:23:43am

wonder if the ACLU would defend my right to say

NO ISLAMIST ARABS NO ARAB TERRORISM.

323 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:24:15am

re: #322 yochanan

wonder if the ACLU would defend my right to say

NO ISLAMIST ARABS NO ARAB TERRORISM.

No

324 theatheistjew  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:24:48am

re: #320 opnion

The ACLU sees the 1st Amendment as an absolute right when they agree.'
Speech that they disagree with they often view as hate speech.

A perfect example of grey is a statement like this:
"the world would be better off with Islam"

It is a factually true statement, however it could easily be as hateful as a statement like "the world would be better off without Israel"

325 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:25:37am

Six limbs? Now if the can get the Spidey sense those German evil Mad Scientists will take over the world!

326 theatheistjew  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:26:33am

re: #323 opnion

They would probably defend your right if you said the world would be better off without Israel.
Oh, maybe I'm confusing them with the UN.
But it is hard to tell them apart sometimes.

327 doriangrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:27:00am

Good morning Lizards.....

328 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:27:52am

re: #324 theatheistjew

A perfect example of grey is a statement like this:
"the world would be better off with Islam"

It is a factually true statement, however it could easily be as hateful as a statement like "the world would be better off without Israel"

Good comparison. In both cases the speech should be protected as neither seems to incite violence.
As an example., a jihadi would not be inspired by the statement about Israel, since he is alrady there.

329 big steve  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:28:18am

Good morning all Houston. Eyeing a storm but the Astros swept the hated Mets over the weekend.

330 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:29:10am

re: #316 lori lane

Tell us about the BBQ~

Went to a friends..we rotate race parties..
He grilled Hallibut with Dill sauce.. Potatoes..and several side dishes..
It tasted so good and is so healthy..
The perfect combo..

331 doriangrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:29:59am

re: #330 HoosierHoops

Went to a friends..we rotate race parties..
He grilled Hallibut with Dill sauce.. Potatoes..and several side dishes..
It tasted so good and is so healthy..
The perfect combo..

Yes, but where is ma coffee?

332 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:30:17am

re: #327 doriangrey

Good morning Lizards.....

Good morning dorian.. He is your coffee..
Did ja fix your Vette yesterday?

333 doriangrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:31:09am

re: #332 HoosierHoops

Good morning dorian.. He is your coffee..
Did ja fix your Vette yesterday?

Nope, it was to danged hot for me to crawl under it and work on it yesterday...

334 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:32:36am

re: #333 doriangrey

Nope, it was to danged hot for me to crawl under it and work on it yesterday...

Noooooooooooooo!
Could i interest you in a nice red GT500?
/would that be something you would be interested in?
:)

335 doriangrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:33:12am

re: #334 HoosierHoops

Noooooooooooooo!
Could i interest you in a nice red GT500?
/would that be something you would be interested in?
:)

ROTFLMAO...............You paying for it?

336 big steve  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:34:51am
"It's just a last-ditch effort to keep the scumbag breathing," Ertman said. "He never should have been breathing in the first place. I don't care, I really don't care what anyone thinks about this except Texas. I love Texas. Texas is in my blood."


Texas still planning to execute Medellin tomorrow in defiance of the World. Texas defies global outcry from U.N., Bush, other leaders in the controversial case

I have posted this below but here is a link to the crime that the world wants to save this guy from his punishment and as also mentioned it is very gruesome so read at your own peril.
Ertman-Pena Murder

337 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:34:58am

re: #317 razorbacker

The disappointing part for me is to read this guy's favorite movies and music.

Except for Matrix, Vikings (been so long I don't really remember), Idiocracy (I don't think I've seen it), and Red Dawn (I recall it as an amusing comic book of a movie) I like those movies.

I've never heard these guys, *Alcholocaust: 'Jew Slaughter'; *Nordic Thunder: 'The H8 Machine'; *Celtic Dawn; *Final Solution; *Keine Gnade, but I like the rest.

As for his books; Billy Shakey, Homer, and poor old Tolkien lumpen in with The Nat Turner Diaries and David Irving's lot! The mind wobbles.

My take exactly. My instinct is to believe that refined culture, refines. I'd rather my enemy and the enemy of my civilization was simply a dull brute. The answer I suppose is in psychology or neurology The problem with this man is not that he hasn't been exposed to meaningful ideas. The problem is that he is nuts.

338 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:36:12am

re: #330 HoosierHoops

Went to a friends..we rotate race parties..

I was thinking, "what race?" but then I realized you must be talking NASCAR? Sounds like great fun!

339 lori lane  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:36:50am

Ok. Outta here. Everyone have a good one!

340 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:37:09am

re: #335 doriangrey

ROTFLMAO...............You paying for it?

No..I figured we would sell tickets over at KOS for a buck a piece then pull the rug out from under them...
/should be great fun...

341 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:37:32am

re: #331 doriangrey

Yes, but where is ma coffee?


No coffee tea. No coke pepsi. No fries cheeps

342 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:39:20am

re: #341 lifeofthemind

No coffee tea. No coke pepsi. No fries cheeps

/all i need is the air that i breathe.....

343 doriangrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:39:31am

re: #340 HoosierHoops

No..I figured we would sell tickets over at KOS for a buck a piece then pull the rug out from under them...
/should be great fun...

ROTFLMAO...........................That would be sweeter than molasses...

344 doriangrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:41:33am

re: #340 HoosierHoops

No..I figured we would sell tickets over at KOS for a buck a piece then pull the rug out from under them...
/should be great fun...

I hereby appoint you to be the president of my practically nearly almost famous Rock star fan club... lol...lol...lol...

345 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:43:40am

re: #344 doriangrey

I hereby appoint you to be the president of my practically nearly almost famous Rock star fan club... lol...lol...lol...

Can i be in charge of finding your groupies? [Link: WWWeeeeeeee!...]
/ make it so number one...

346 doriangrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:44:28am

re: #345 HoosierHoops

Can i be in charge of finding your groupies? [Link: WWWeeeeeeee!...]
/ make it so number one...

You got it.... lol...lol...lol... Just dont tell your wife... :O

347 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:45:04am

re: #345 HoosierHoops

Can i be in charge of finding your groupies? [Link: WWWeeeeeeee!...]
/ make it so number one...


hey..why did [Link: wwweeee...] turn into a link?
wierd...Back to scouring the countryside for Dorian's groupies..

348 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:45:33am

You know, this is the only blog on which I regularly comment, but I check Glenn's joint every day.

That German word, shadsomethingorother, I has it.

In his first broadcast interview since his wife dropped out of the Democratic presidential race, former President Bill Clinton said he still has regrets, and insisted he's "not a racist," despite controversies surrounding his comments

Your problem is not global warming, your problem is that you are nuts.

Probably not the tag line they were looking for.

Knowing what you know, would you do it again?


Go through a mental list of major government programs, and ask how many of them you would enact today in their current formats.

And I like to read Don Surber,

My criticisms of Bush 43 are many. He should never have signed the anti-First Amendment bill — McCain-Feingold — into law. His refusal to crack down on earmarks cost Republicans big time. And he took his eye off the Iraq War in 2005.

But he stood strong and he restored honor and dignity in the White House. He has endured some of the worst abuse from the Left and its enablers — Al Gore’s loony attempt to litigate the election was rewarded with a Nobel Prize. Bush has repaid his critics with kindness instead of finger wagging. His wife has not made paranoiac claims of conspiracy.

He has kept his promises against great odds and much to the displeasure and disappointment of his critics.

Much like Lincoln. Much like Truman. Much like Reagan.

You don't have to agree with him to see some truth there.

See youse guys later. Gotta go retrieve a loaned tool.

349 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:47:46am

I do wish they were a little clear here.

[Link: newenergyandfuel.com...]

350 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:49:04am

re: #336 big steve

FRY HIM AND MUMIA

351 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:50:44am

re: #337 lifeofthemind

My take exactly. My instinct is to believe that refined culture, refines. I'd rather my enemy and the enemy of my civilization was simply a dull brute. The answer I suppose is in psychology or neurology The problem with this man is not that he hasn't been exposed to meaningful ideas. The problem is that he is nuts.

Sadly, I think that Nazi-era Germany is a definative argument against your position. I've read German Jew's comments roughly paraphrased as, "We couldn't believe that our civilized, cultured neighbors would turn on us like savages."

Be back in a half-hour or so, depending on whether she has any coffee ready.

352 Lively  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:51:17am

re: #336 big steve

Texas still planning to execute Medellin tomorrow in defiance of the World. Texas defies global outcry from U.N., Bush, other leaders in the controversial case

I have posted this below but here is a link to the crime that the world wants to save this guy from his punishment and as also mentioned it is very gruesome so read at your own peril.
Ertman-Pena Murder

I hadn't heard of the case. Thanks for posting.

That guy deserves to die.

353 doriangrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:51:50am

Well gotta go Lizards.... Be good to each other in my absence.....

354 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:51:56am

The Energy Problem is Really a Political Problem

Last Friday saw the members of Congress, again for the several hundredth time, exit their jobs with the work undone. This again leaves the United States, for more of an indeterminate period of time, without any governmentally founded basis for working to a solution for expanding energy and fuel supplies. Its as if they don’t work for the American People. That may be closer to the truth than many are willing to face.

With resources in supplies and know how that can easily overcome the problem, and the reality of new efforts leading to a bigger and stronger economy along with a reduction in exporting capital - people have to wonder where the sense is in it all. With billions of barrels crude oil, billions if not trillions of oil equivalent in nuclear, an inexhaustible supply of sun powered systems and biology processes for alternatives and the innovative and creative intelligence to put it all on the markets, Congress recessing, like spoiled elementary kids with the job not finished is not just irritating – it is harmful to everyone.


Then there's the last sentence:

Its time for demand destruction to be applied to Ms. Pelosi’s career.

355 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:03:00am

re: #351 razorbacker

Sadly, I think that Nazi-era Germany is a definative argument against your position. I've read German Jew's comments roughly paraphrased as, "We couldn't believe that our civilized, cultured neighbors would turn on us like savages."

Be back in a half-hour or so, depending on whether she has any coffee ready.


Unsurprisingly I can look at the same facts and draw the conclusion it supports my argument. The Germans were civilized and cultured and still let themselves get swept up by mass hysteria and a messianic psychopath. Still I believe that on some level a good education and cultural sophistication can give one a sense of perspective and tools to reject savagery. The missing ingredient is moral courage. How do you teach the value of being a free adult who can say "No" to evil? Now if the cultural milieu can create the wrong values, such as happens in Islamist societies as evidenced by their backwardness poverty and violence, then the contrary case should also be true.

356 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:10:09am

re: #354 The Other Les
If we can get the pipelines through Canada done then Alaskan oil could be shipped to the lower 48. Then we can tell free loading Pelosi that either California drills off the Pacific coast or they learn to live without oil.

Still think it is a good idea in terms of being a reliable ally for us to ship Alaskan oil to Japan.

357 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:18:37am

re: #355 lifeofthemind

The missing ingredient is moral courage. How do you teach the value of being a free adult who can say "No" to evil?

In part, Life, by having a God-based CULTURE that respects (and frequently DEMONSTRATES OPENLY its respect for) individual human rights.

The Germans, however, had a history and a culture of FOLLOWING their LEADER, in the monarchic tradition. It was a cult of the personality, and H!tler took advantage of that habitual mass-follow instinct.

358 nonic  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:27:08am

So is this how the war in Europe begins?..........

Italy: soldiers deployed to fight street crime

ROME - The Defense Ministry says hundreds of soldiers have been deployed in cities across Italy as part of government measures to fight street crime.

In Rome, some 400 men and women are deployed at subway and railway stations and at an immigrant center. * * *

In Milan, they are patrolling the Duomo cathedral and sensitive sites such as the U.S. consulate and the synagogue. * * *

I wonder what makes the US consulate, a cathedral, and a synagogue "sensitive" and vulnerable to the average non-political, non-religious street criminal.

359 FrogMarch  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:27:29am

re: #9 itellu3times

oh boogers

link:
[Link: weeklystandard.com...]

Movie: An American Tale, based loosely (!) on A Christmas Carol

"Thank Allah for the ACLU."


Related.... sort of...
Glenn tells it like it is:

360 irish rose  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:28:43am

Good morning lizards, a rainy morning here along the Lake Michigan shoreline, temp 67.

A sad morning here, it's time to take my son to the airport and say goodbye, yet again.

On the upside, we had a great visit... short, but sweet.

He has a lovely lady friend waiting for him back in San Diego... a beautiful, intelligent young hispanic lady who comes from an excellent family and serves in the US Navy. They met and fell in love while serving together aboard the USS Nimitz, and they're quite serious. If they don't deploy again before the first of the year, he's going to bring her home to meet us at Christmas.

He has a long flight ahead of him later today, so he's catching a few more hours of sleep before he packs up.

How's everyone this morning?

361 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:29:27am

re: #357 Karridine

In part, Life, by having a God-based CULTURE that respects (and frequently DEMONSTRATES OPENLY its respect for) individual human rights.

The Germans, however, had a history and a culture of FOLLOWING their LEADER, in the monarchic tradition. It was a cult of the personality, and H!tler took advantage of that habitual mass-follow instinct.

But the German culture was very close to that of the English. If anything Germany was a recent invention and was less homogenous than her neighbors. The differences between them and us are of degree and not clear absolutes. Is basing your culture on God the answer? If so how? True that Hitler himself was not religious but the German people were raised in a deeply religious tradition. The culture did have a strong anti-Semitic element in it but unlike in Islam that is not an essential element of Christianity. I believe that a good religious culture should impart the values that I spoke of as creating success and that a poor religious culture has created the conditions for failure in much of the Islamic world. But given how close the German religious tradition was to ours in terms of the official values expressed we must ask why that failed so horribly and BTW, why are you yelling?

362 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:30:00am

re: #359 FrogMarch

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S DESIGNED TO PROMOTE MORE "LAWFARE" ON THE PART OF MUSLIM NATIONS AND TERRORISTS: The campaign to create an international law norm banning "defamation of religion."

After you behead the first thousand mullahs who've condemned Judaism and Christianity, we'll talk.


Oh, and after you've set to protect the Baha'is from pogroms conducted by Muslims, THEN we'll talk!

363 Aylios  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:30:27am

re: #69 jcm

Sometimes size doesn't matter. I've had the distinct impression with cats that they're wondering what I would taste like.

Doood, downdinged you on that one, on behalf of my cat, who (I'm sure) adores me!

364 eaglewingz08  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:30:30am

Last week in responding to the McCain celebrity ad the Obamanation said words to the effect that no one could cite any evidence to support the proposition that he has an oversize ego, is arrogant, (or that his ego is highly inflated when compared to his accomplishments or lack thereof). Well CBS just published photos of the Obamanation's airplane, you know the one where he took off the US Flag and put on his own faux presidential seal. Well it seems that the Obamanation took out seats in the candidate's section and replaced them with a conference room and four lazyboy type free standing seats. ONE OF THE SEATS IS LABELED "PRESIDENT", and is for the Obamanation's own personal use. Here is a link to the photo:

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

What say you libtards? Presumptive or Presumptuous Nominee for President. I can't wait til the McCain campaign uses this photo!

365 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:31:06am

re: #355 lifeofthemind

and

re: #357 Karridine

An example does not an argument make, but...I'm reminded of the man who molded me more than any other (often to my complete surprise), my father.

In particular, I recall an episode some 45+ years ago. We were stopped at Pendleton Ferry, awaiting the ferry. It was July, and I still had firecrackers left. I noticed some small frogs crawling in and out of a discarded beer can and with the simple-minded savagery common to little boys was preparing to light a firecracker in the opening. My father saw me, and did not tell me to stop or shout no or anything like that. He asked quietly, "Son, would you want someone to do that to you?"

To this day I am shamed by my actions. And I wonder where that man, that racist, sexist, uneducated, unchurched, violent, often buffoonish man got his innate human dignity.

366 nonic  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:32:46am

Re # 358

Be sure to view the BBC video at the link given in 358 -- Italy cracking down on illegal immigration and getting very tough on the crime it brings.

Hey, how can they do this being part of the EU? I thought EU meant Brussels sets the rules.

367 stashiu  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:33:07am

re: #112 freetoken

I have one of Babatunde Olatunji's LP's.

368 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:33:16am

Every time I go away on Reserve duty I loose track of what is going on here. Anyone get banned or any hot topics? Any new trolls?

369 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:33:32am

re: #361 lifeofthemind

Not yelling. I capitalize for EM-PHASIS only, even informed of the convention, Life.

This is a very one-dimensional medium, text-only, and I do what I can to add some levels, *shades*, and gradations to the communique.... :D

370 FrogMarch  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:34:11am

re: #9 itellu3times

oh boogers

link:
[Link: weeklystandard.com...]

Movie: An American Tale, based loosely (!) on A Christmas Carol

thank you for sharing this link!

Zucker was still nominally a Democrat when George W. Bush was elected in 2000. "Then 9/11 happened, and I couldn't take it anymore," he says. "The response to 9/11--the right was saying this is pure evil we're facing and the left was saying how are we at fault for this? I think I'd just had enough. And I said 'I quit.'"
371 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:34:15am

re: #365 razorbacker

Upding! Can someone please tell me what the Heart thingie is for?

372 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:35:29am

re: #360 irish rose

Good morning lizards, a rainy morning here along the Lake Michigan shoreline, temp 67.

A sad morning here, it's time to take my son to the airport and say goodbye, yet again.

On the upside, we had a great visit... short, but sweet.

He has a lovely lady friend waiting for him back in San Diego... a beautiful, intelligent young hispanic lady who comes from an excellent family and serves in the US Navy. They met and fell in love while serving together aboard the USS Nimitz, and they're quite serious. If they don't deploy again before the first of the year, he's going to bring her home to meet us at Christmas.

He has a long flight ahead of him later today, so he's catching a few more hours of sleep before he packs up.

How's everyone this morning?


Good Morning Irish.. my prayers go out to you and your son..
Hang tough irish..

373 Aylios  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:35:34am

re: #358 nonic

So is this how the war in Europe begins?..........

Italy: soldiers deployed to fight street crime


I wonder what makes the US consulate, a cathedral, and a synagogue "sensitive" and vulnerable to the average non-political, non-religious street criminal.


Interesting. I just can't figure out the common denominator there either. Anyone else here have any idea? It's a tough one that's for sure. We'd have to figure out what kinds of criminals are anti-christian, anti-jewish and anti-US. Hmmm, I give up!

374 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:36:14am

Good morning all y'all - from a very warm (79 degrees, going up to 97 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

375 stashiu  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:36:33am

re: #360 irish rose

Irish Rose, God Bless your son, and thank you for your service.

376 FrogMarch  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:36:59am

re: #362 Karridine

After you behead the first thousand mullahs who've condemned Judaism and Christianity, we'll talk.


(this should be international law!)
&

Oh, and after you've set to protect the Baha'is from pogroms conducted by Muslims, THEN we'll talk!

Hell yes.

377 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:36:59am

re: #374 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a very warm (79 degrees, going up to 97 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

Well Realwest is in da house!
good morning real..are you going to the dentist today?

378 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:37:24am

re: #373 Aylios

Interesting. I just can't figure out the common denominator there either. Anyone else here have any idea? It's a tough one that's for sure. We'd have to figure out what kinds of criminals are anti-christian, anti-jewish and anti-US. Hmmm, I give up!


The Italians have a great advantage. Everyone underestimates them.

That mosque in Milan is a real problem.

379 irish rose  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:38:01am

re: #368 Nevergiveup

Every time I go away on Reserve duty I loose track of what is going on here. Anyone get banned or any hot topics? Any new trolls?

You really wanna know?

380 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:38:21am

re: #365 razorbacker

I hear you. (updinged, too), Backer!

Your shared story seems to illustrate what I'm saying, that righteousness or decency or common sense or basic respect or what-have-you (in the VALUES department) must permeate the society, and often does so without any formal, paper-trail provender...

Yr Dad sounds like a pretty good man...

381 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:39:04am

re: #379 irish rose

You really wanna know?

Wait a moment, does this concern me? I didn't get the memo.

382 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:39:38am

Good morning Lizards. It's 75 degrees going to 95 degrees today and the humidity is at 94% along the Texas coast this morning. Edouard looks like it's heading for Houston, but like a good ex-Boy Scout we're prepared...lol

383 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:40:03am

re: #371 lifeofthemind

Upding! Can someone please tell me what the Heart thingie is for?

The HEART thingie ADDS that Comment to your collection of Favorites, Life.

384 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:40:28am

re: #363 Aylios

Doood, downdinged you on that one, on behalf of my cat, who (I'm sure) adores me!

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com...]

(I'm a bona fide cat lover!)

385 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:40:39am

re: #382 jorline

Good morning Lizards. It's 75 degrees going to 95 degrees today and the humidity is at 94% along the Texas coast this morning. Edouard looks like it's heading for Houston, but like a good ex-Boy Scout we're prepared...lol

good morning jorline..
Hope all is well with you..

386 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:40:41am

re: #379 irish rose

You really wanna know?

Well, any sexual harassment involved?

387 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:40:55am

re: #374 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a very warm (79 degrees, going up to 97 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

You're looking good this morning RW...hope everything is well on the home front.

388 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:41:01am

re: #380 Karridine

PIMF... "and often DO so..."

scuzi

389 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:41:22am

re: #374 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a very warm (79 degrees, going up to 97 degrees) but bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?

{realwest}! I'm so glad to see you're posting! HOW ARE YOU FEELING?

390 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:41:30am

re: #385 HoosierHoops

good morning jorline..
Hope all is well with you..

Thanks HH...everything is fine here...how about you?

391 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:41:34am
392 Aylios  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:41:57am

re: #378 lifeofthemind

The Italians have a great advantage. Everyone underestimates them.

That mosque in Milan is a real problem.

This is good stuff. I've resolved to be nicer to my Italian customers from now on!

393 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:42:05am

re: #384 goddessoftheclassroom

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]

(I'm a bona fide cat lover!)

{GOC}
good morning..how is the play coming along?

394 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:42:41am

re: #382 jorline

Good morning Lizards. It's 75 degrees going to 95 degrees today and the humidity is at 94% along the Texas coast this morning. Edouard looks like it's heading for Houston, but like a good ex-Boy Scout we're prepared...lol

Can the storm be diverted by laying a trail before it? Thinking bread crumbs or M&Ms. Did you get the Boy Scout merit badge for rubbing two girl scouts together?

395 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:42:57am

re: #374 realwest

I'm outta my old job, about to take another, and GLAD to sees yah, before I bug out for Winkum-Blinkum & Nodd

Hope your day is fruitful and filled with Grace.

396 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:43:15am

re: #383 Karridine

The HEART thingie ADDS that Comment to your collection of Favorites, Life.

Thank you.

397 irish rose  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:43:28am

re: #386 Nevergiveup

Well, any sexual harassment involved?

Not that I'm aware of.
But it would probably take about an hour to make a list of all the hot topics, bannings, and tenderized trollmeat.

398 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:43:46am

re: #393 HoosierHoops

{HoosierHoops}

It went well, and I had a great time. I'm lucky to have had the opportunity.

399 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:43:51am

re: #360 irish rose Hey Rose - Sorry your son couldn't have stayed longer - you seemed to be having a great time together but I'm pleased to hear he's met a nice young woman and hope he does indeed get to bring her home around Christmas!
And, again, I know you've told him in the past, but if you can, just please remind him of how much we appreciate his service to our Nation - and we appreciate your sacrifice staying home and wondering/worrying, too!

400 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:44:05am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. History doesn't just repeat itself. It stutters.

Obama's energy policy is a cruel redux of the Carter energy policy, which is funny given that 30 years ago Carter established the Department of Energy.

No new energy is created under Obama's plan, and conservation will not solve things. Ethanol will not solve anything, and actually causes food prices to soar.

Windfall profits taxes are his solution to redistribute wealth. And no one talks about what exactly is a windfall. 5%? 8%? 10%? Because other industries have far higher net revenues than the oil industry, which already pays tens of billions of dollars per company to the government at all levels.

401 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:44:43am

re: #396 lifeofthemind

Yr welcome, and bye 4 now from beautiful, suburban, 2045 Monday NIGHT Bangkok!

Stay good, Life! :D

402 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:45:19am

re: #398 goddessoftheclassroom

{HoosierHoops}

It went well, and I had a great time. I'm lucky to have had the opportunity.

waiting for the youtube posting of the play...

403 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:45:27am

re: #377 HoosierHoops
No, see Oral Surgeon in about 3 weeks and I've been feeling sick for the last 24 hours or so, think it's just a combination of stress, tooth pain and meds.
I'm probably not gonna be out here as much as I'd like to be today.
How are you doing HH?

404 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:46:41am

re: #391 Ben Hur

Tyson Foods: Buh-Bye, Labor Day, Hello, Eid Al-Fitr;

Boker effen Tov.

This is a load of crap. I contacted my chicken supplier Friday and told them to find another line of chicken for me to sell at my restaurants. If they want to be PC about this I'll take my money elsewhere.

405 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:47:21am

re: #403 realwest

No, see Oral Surgeon in about 3 weeks and I've been feeling sick for the last 24 hours or so, think it's just a combination of stress, tooth pain and meds.
I'm probably not gonna be out here as much as I'd like to be today.
How are you doing HH?

doing great my friend..
We had a Nascar race party over at a friends and he BBQ'd hallibut with a dill sauce..mmmm it was good..

406 Karridine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:47:29am

re: #396 lifeofthemind

And Life? That exclamation thingie ! reports a Comment to the Headmaster, for Yays or Nays!

407 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:47:35am

re: #384 goddessoftheclassroom Hey good morning to you {goddess} - I hope you had a good weekend!

408 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:47:42am
409 FrogMarch  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:47:54am

re: #9 itellu3times

oh boogers

link:
[Link: weeklystandard.com...]

Movie: An American Tale, based loosely (!) on A Christmas Carol

"I can't stand Keith Olbermann," says Davi. "Jesus Christ, I want to slap that guy."

Hollywood has a glimmer of hope!

410 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:47:59am

re: #384 goddessoftheclassroom

[Link: icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com.. .]

(I'm a bona fide cat lover!)

Had two cats, one was dumb but lovable the other was incredibly smart but meaner than spit. The smart one was declawed and she would open up har paw and strike me in the face. Then she would look at my face and look at her paw and look back at my face puzzled that I wasn't bleeding and writhing in agony. Then she would clean me.

411 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:48:22am

re: #69 jcm

MY cat gets very friendly i think she might think of me as husband material. she fellows me around when ever i am home.

412 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:48:38am

re: #394 lifeofthemind

Can the storm be diverted by laying a trail before it? Thinking bread crumbs or M&Ms. Did you get the Boy Scout merit badge for rubbing two girl scouts together?

The answer all of the question above is yes. The girls were a little chapped, but went well...LOL

413 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 6:49:18am

re: #400 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. History doesn't just repeat itself. It stutters.

Obama's energy policy is a cruel redux of the Carter energy policy, which is funny given that 30 years ago Carter established the Department of Energy.

No new energy is created under Obama's plan, and conservation will not solve things. Ethanol will not solve anything, and actually causes food prices to soar.

Windfall profits taxes are his solution to redistribute wealth. And no one talks about what exactly is a windfall. 5%? 8%? 10%? Because other industries have far higher net revenues than the oil industry, which already pays tens of billions of dollars per company to the government at all levels.

It really is depressing. Obama is a totally empty vessel. His policies are all old recycled Carter/Clinton policy. And actually a highlight of "THE WORST" of Carter/Clinton! Been there, done that, it FAILED! And made things worse! When will this nothing be exposed for the phony he is?

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