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2004: An MSM Odyssey

Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:09:48 am PDT

Ed Driscoll has a new video about the mainstream media’s summer fling with Barack Obama, and some of their old flames from elections past: 2004: An MSM Odyssey.

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1 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:10:16am

should be fun to watch

2 SFGoth  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:13:28am

It is amazing how many S.F. Comical readers think Obama is a centrist. They're citing all of his "mainstream" positions - voted for FISA, supports the war, etc. thinking that he actually supports these. Wow.

3 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:14:15am

It's a great little compilation !

4 SeafoodGumbo  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:14:16am

Don't miss (h/t dailypundit.com) this website where barely literate journalists whine and cry: [Link: angryjournalist.com...]

5 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:15:06am

This should be a nice distraction from all of the hurricane hysteria here in H town.. you'd think we've never had a tropical storm before.

Me, I'm looking forward to the paid day off and stocking up on the vino.

6 MandyManners  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:15:33am

Oh, no. Dan Rather.

7 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:18:12am

Oh, no. John Kerry.

8 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:20:16am

(features the smoking memo!)

9 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:20:31am

I didn't know Tucker Carlson owned a regular tie.

10 Haole  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:22:07am

Throb Baby!

11 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:22:13am

Wow, Rather still had hair back in 2000.

Now he's just a beaten man with thinning hair and no career.

Oh well.

12 talon_262  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:22:21am

re: #6 MandyManners

Oh, no. Dan Rather.

You mean Dan Rather, right?

;-P

13 talon_262  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:23:30am

re: #11 JammieWearingFool

Wow, Rather still had hair back in 2000.

Now he's just a beaten man with thinning hair and no career.

Oh well.

I'd be tempted to say "BWAHAHAHA!" to his face if I ever saw him...

14 MandyManners  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:23:48am

re: #12 talon_262

I think that his attempt to trash Pres. Bush was the beginning of my mom's falling out with the Democrats.

15 MandyManners  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:24:15am

re: #13 talon_262

I'd be tempted to say "BWAHAHAHA!" to his face if I ever saw him...

U R SEW MEEN.

16 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:24:17am

Have I ever mentioned here that John Kerry is an idiot?

17 ModerateWolverine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:24:27am

re: #6 MandyManners

Oh, no. Dan Rather.

What? They were fake, but accurate.

18 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:24:47am

Brilliant!

19 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:25:31am

I see throbbing memo.... /dan rather

20 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:27:02am

re: #16 karmic_inquisitor

I don't think you have, so go ahead, say it! LOL!

21 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:27:08am

Not to change the subject but:

G-D seriously injured in a Car Accident!

[Link: www.wmctv.com...]

22 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:27:10am

Poor Dianne Sawyer.

/

23 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:27:18am

re: #17 ModerateWolverine

What? They were fake, but accurate.

Dan Rather:

"How dare anybody question the authenticity of my sources. I don't question them, so why should you?"

24 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:27:26am

Someone really needs to remind Carole Simpson that Republicans were the ones opposing opposing slavery.

25 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:27:47am

re: #20 realwest

I don't think you have, so go ahead, say it! LOL!

In that case: John Kerry is an idiot.

26 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:28:11am

re: #24 Neo Con since 9-11

What, and report facts?

27 talon_262  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:28:15am

re: #19 lawhawk

I see throbbing memo.... /dan rather

To improve upon your post:

"I see throbbing memos..."

/Dan Rather channeling Haley Joel Osment from The Sixth Sense

28 MandyManners  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:28:28am

re: #25 karmic_inquisitor

In that case: John Kerry is an idiot.

HALP US!

29 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:28:36am

re: #11 JammieWearingFool

Wow, Rather still had hair back in 2000.

Now he's just a beaten man with thinning hair and no career.

Oh well.

Oh, sure, go ahead, pile on why don't you?! (uh, can you move a little bit so I don't land on ya?)!

30 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:29:08am

re: #24 Neo Con since 9-11

Someone really needs to remind Carole Simpson that Republicans were the ones opposing opposing slavery.

Ooooooh. But the maps are similar.

Maybe we should point out that the map of Germany today is VERY similar to the map of Germany when the Nazis came to power.

31 snowcrash  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:29:32am

"The mainstream media is being destroyed by it's own fraying journalistic standards"..... no truer word spoken (by Howard Fineman uck.)

32 alegrias  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:29:52am

re: #14 MandyManners

I think that his attempt to trash Pres. Bush was the beginning of my mom's falling out with the Democrats.

* * *
Good for your Mom.

Rather's talking trash to President Nixon during a press conference was a turn-off for me! When the Washington Post piled on, the lights went on for me.

Same year I read Aleksandr Solzenitsyn, hmmmm! All sorts of lights were going on.

33 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:30:24am

This video is good, but doesn't even begin to approach just how far to the left the media will go for Obama. Many will treat today's energy speech as though it is the Second Coming, even though it's a rehash and retread of what Obama has had on his campaign website for months, and is a repeat of Carter's failed economic and energy policies.

Those that don't will find themselves on the short end of the bus.

34 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:30:37am

John Kerry is a traitor. He's a disgrace. The MSM is just a joke. The only question is, how long (or short) will the slide to irrelevance be? Probably faster than we think...and that isn't fast enough for me.

35 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:31:21am

re: #21 Nevergiveup

Not to change the subject but:

G-D seriously injured in a Car Accident!

[Link: www.wmctv.com...]

OK. I really enjoy Morgan Freeman as an actor and I sincerely hope the man is alright. But:

Freeman overcorrected, flipping his 1997 Nissan Maxima several times before coming to a rest.

WTF is the man doing driving a 1997 Nissan Maxima? He can't afford a newer car than that? Don't they pay him to be in all those movies?

36 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:31:28am

re: #25 karmic_inquisitor

In that case: John Kerry is an idiot.


Dans ce cas: John Kerry est un idiot.
/put in his native language for him

37 alegrias  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:31:46am

re: #28 MandyManners

HALP US!

* * * *
In Obama's case : VISIT US!

/reference to his skipping the wounded troops at Landstuhl Air Force Base, Germany.

38 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:33:07am

OT:
More propaganda from the Palestinians - Israel evil and violates Geneva Conventions because it denies entry of sick Palestinians to Israel because Palestinians refuse to answer questions.

39 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:33:23am

re: #36 HoosierHoops

put in his native language for him

Is that how Asshat is spoken? Like French?

40 pingjockey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:33:25am

Jon halp uz Kary iz an idyot. A fukkin trator and a asshat. Thiz messaje broht to yu bi the Jon halp uz Kary skool of lagage artz.

41 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:33:50am

re: #35 Ford_Prefect

WTF is the man doing driving a 1997 Nissan Maxima? He can't afford a newer car than that? Don't they pay him to be in all those movies?

Someone will probably blame it on gas prices and the fact he no longer could afford a gas guzzler.

42 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:34:03am

re: #5 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

This should be a nice distraction from all of the hurricane hysteria here in H town.. you'd think we've never had a tropical storm before.

Me, I'm looking forward to the paid day off and stocking up on the vino.

Storm has brought a nice breeze to Baton Rouge. I'm looking forward to the day, too!

43 pingjockey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:35:11am

re: #41 JammieWearingFool
Ed Begley Jr. said it served him right for not driving an electric car.///

44 mfarmer1  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:35:13am

Nice effects and content by Driscoll, but he almost puts me to sleep with his delivery.

45 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:35:28am

Who was that at the end yelling "This sucks?"

46 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:36:09am

re: #35 Ford_Prefect

WTF is the man doing driving a 1997 Nissan Maxima? He can't afford a newer car than that? Don't they pay him to be in all those movies?

Maybe he's just a classy kind of guy who doesn't flaunt his wealth.

47 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:36:51am

re: #41 JammieWearingFool

Someone will probably blame it on gas prices and the fact he no longer could afford a gas guzzler.

At least he wasn't driving a Prius. I mean I think that hybrids are a good thing and all, but Prius drivers just seem to think their sh*t fumes don't stink.

48 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:38:06am

re: #45 lifeofthemind

O'Reilly.

49 Gmac  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:38:07am

That was a great video by Ed.
He hit all the highlights (or low) of how the media tried to manipulate the voters in a factual way in previous two elections. I suspect he's going to have an even better video about the 2008 election.

50 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:38:29am

re: #46 reine.de.tout

Maybe he's just a classy kind of guy who doesn't flaunt his wealth.

I am not saying he should be driving a Lamborghini, but maybe a 2006 Nissan or something, that's all.

51 Dianna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:38:31am

re: #47 Ford_Prefect

We call them "smug emissions", and they're choking.

52 just another four-letter word  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:39:09am

#35 Ford Prefect:
Maybe it's his favorite car. I'm sure he can afford all the gas-guzzling cars he wants, but this one may have sentimental value. I don't drive my '57 Chevy every day, but I can afford to take it out for a spin every now and then (at 19 mpg, by the way...).

I hope he's okay, sounds like he is.
JAFLW

53 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:39:39am

re: #47 Ford_Prefect

At least he wasn't driving a Prius. I mean I think that hybrids are a good thing and all, but Prius drivers just seem to think their sh*t fumes don't stink.

Well, they are saving the world, after all. Just like Pelosi's Politburo.

I do enjoy blowing past them uphill...not only are the Prius' (Prii?) going about 20 mph but I'm burning massive amounts of gas while traveling the speed limit and I know it pisses them off!

54 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:40:46am

re: #38 lawhawk

OT:
More propaganda from the Palestinians - Israel evil and violates Geneva Conventions because it denies entry of sick Palestinians to Israel because Palestinians refuse to answer questions.

Israel should padlock the crossing gate then brick it up and make clear that they have nothing to do with the people in Gaza. If a shot comes from Gaza Israel should have hundreds of artillery tubes ready to respond instantly with counter battery fire. If Gazans can follow the minimal rules that even Egypt wants to enforce then they have another way to contact the world. An vessel going in or out should be searched by Israel for contraband, otherwise let it go. Air traffic should be prohibited.

55 pingjockey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:40:50am

re: #53 Leonidas Hoplite
I like to go by and drop the Harley down a gear, hit the gas then shift. Wonderful loud noise!

56 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:41:12am

re: #52 just another four-letter word

#35 Ford Prefect:
Maybe it's his favorite car. I'm sure he can afford all the gas-guzzling cars he wants, but this one may have sentimental value. I don't drive my '57 Chevy every day, but I can afford to take it out for a spin every now and then (at 19 mpg, by the way...).

I hope he's okay, sounds like he is.
JAFLW

Tell me, are you really comparing a 1997 Nissan Maxima to a '57 Chevy?

And as I said, I hope he is alright as well.

57 uncleFuzzy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:41:18am

Congratulations, Charles, on the Ed Driscoll "viola" acknowledgement.

58 Ed Driscoll  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:41:23am

Thanks Charles for the link!

"Who was that at the end yelling 'This sucks?'"

That was Bill O'Reilly in the early 1990s, from his "Inside Edition" days--I'm sure the full clip of him freaking out is online; I thought that snippet would be a fun way to go out.

59 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:41:28am

re: #53 Leonidas Hoplite

I do enjoy blowing past them uphill...not only are the Prius' (Prii?) going about 20 mph but I'm burning massive amounts of gas while traveling the speed limit and I know it pisses them off!

The more they buy Priuses, the less gasoline they'll burn.

More gas for us!

60 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:42:29am

re: #53 Leonidas Hoplite

Well, they are saving the world, after all. Just like Pelosi's Politburo.

I do enjoy blowing past them uphill...not only are the Prius' (Prii?) going about 20 mph but I'm burning massive amounts of gas while traveling the speed limit and I know it pisses them off!

The ones that really get me are the ones that drive 85 mph on the highway. Yeah, that's a great way to save gas.

61 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:42:42am

Hello Mr. Driscoll, great vid!

62 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:42:48am

re: #48 lawhawk

O'Reilly.

Rarely watch him, hate how he hurt the Red Cross after 9-11. He has aged.

63 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:43:15am

re: #58 Ed Driscoll

Thanks Charles for the link!

"Who was that at the end yelling 'This sucks?'"

That was Bill O'Reilly in the early 1990s, from his "Inside Edition" days--I'm sure the full clip of him freaking out is online; I thought that snippet would be a fun way to go out.

Great job.

But I am suffering Karmic damage by you showing John Kerry.

Are you aware that John Kerry is an idiot?

64 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:43:28am

re: #58 Ed Driscoll

Very well done video.

65 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:43:37am

re: #60 Ford_Prefect

The ones that really get me are the ones that drive 85 mph on the highway. Yeah, that's a great way to save gas.

My car gets better mileage at 70 than it does at 55.

1988 Honda Civic CRX.

66 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:43:44am

re: #63 karmic_inquisitor

Great job.

But I am suffering Karmic damage by you showing John Kerry.

Are you aware that John Kerry is an idiot?

And he served in Viet Nam.

67 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:44:23am

re: #58 Ed Driscoll

Well done. It is a form of immortality isn't it?

68 Mike in Georgia  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:44:29am

re: #63 karmic_inquisitor

Are you aware that he was in Viet Nam? I heard that somewhere.

69 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:45:05am

re: #66 Mars Needs Neocons

And he served in Viet Nam.

I'd say he served his Communist masters very well, both in VN and in Congress.

70 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:45:50am

OT -

Obama is sucking wind at Intrade - now trading under 60.

/Can sucking wind become an alternate fuel source?

71 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:45:55am

re: #65 victor_yugo

My car gets better mileage at 70 than it does at 55.

1988 Honda Civic CRX.

I recently started driving with the cruise control set at 65 on the highway and have seen my mileage go up about 3 mpg. I used to drive around 75.

72 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:46:05am

re: #69 victor_yugo

I'd say he served his Communist masters very well, both in VN and in Congress.

Oh yeah. Thank god he didn't win. Of course now, we're dealing with someone just as bad..or worse.

73 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:46:16am

Really liked the old main frame computer room with disc drives. Memories.

74 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:46:16am

re: #35 Ford_Prefect

WTF is the man doing driving a 1997 Nissan Maxima? He can't afford a newer car than that? Don't they pay him to be in all those movies?

Maybe it belongs to one of his relatives. His bio on the IMDb says he was born in Memphis - maybe he was visiting family in Miss.

75 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:47:00am

re: #66 Mars Needs Neocons

And he served in Viet Nam.

re: #68 Mike in Georgia

Are you aware that he was in Viet Nam? I heard that somewhere.

Really?

76 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:48:16am

re: #74 Ward Cleaver

Maybe it belongs to one of his relatives. His bio on the IMDb says he was born in Memphis - maybe he was visiting family in Miss.

That makes more sense. I didn't mean to make a big deal out of it, it just struck me as odd.

77 just another four-letter word  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:48:23am

re: #56 Ford_Prefect

Tell me, are you really comparing a 1997 Nissan Maxima to a '57 Chevy?

And as I said, I hope he is alright as well.

No way, Jose! I'm just talking sentimental value.

Don't make me come over there and lay rubber...

JAFLW

78 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:49:45am

re: #76 Ford_Prefect

That makes more sense. I didn't mean to make a big deal out of it, it just struck me as odd.

Other than acting in movies, he may just be a regular guy.

79 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:50:11am

re: #77 just another four-letter word

No way, Jose! I'm just talking sentimental value.

Don't make me come over there and lay rubber...

JAFLW

"sentimental value". Does that mean it was the first car you ever "parked" in?

80 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:50:17am

Look - a Pelosi-Mobile

81 just another four-letter word  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:50:39am

re: #65 victor_yugo

My car gets better mileage at 70 than it does at 55.

1988 Honda Civic CRX.

My 1989 (!) Ford Taurus SHO gets 23 around town (stop-and-go), 28 at 70 mph, almost 30 at 90+. Weird, but that's the way the engine works...

JAFLW

82 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:50:46am

What I was struck by watching the video is what type of candidates the Dems have put up in the last three eslections.
Al Gore winds up running a Global Warming hoax.
John Kerry a false war hero.
Now Obama , a false Messiah.
It just seems odd.

83 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:51:03am

re: #75 karmic_inquisitor

Really?

He worked as a "consultant" for the North Vietnamese.

84 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:51:15am

re: #78 Ward Cleaver

Other than acting in movies, he may just be a regular guy.

He certainly does come off that way.

85 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:51:18am

OT - Fox News alert on TV

Bob Novak announced his immediate retirement - brain tumor prognosis "dire".

86 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:51:25am

re: #82 opnion

What I was struck by watching the video is what type of candidates the Dems have put up in the last three eslections.
Al Gore winds up running a Global Warming hoax.
John Kerry a false war hero.
Now Obama , a false Messiah.
It just seems odd.

Seems about right to me?

87 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:51:45am

re: #80 karmic_inquisitor

Look - a Pelosi-Mobile

Was it you who sent me a picture of a zebra?

88 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:52:01am

re: #71 Ford_Prefect

I recently started driving with the cruise control set at 65 on the highway and have seen my mileage go up about 3 mpg. I used to drive around 75.

I've had a similar experience. I think cruise control is a big part of the equation.

89 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:52:06am

re: #80 karmic_inquisitor

Look - a Pelosi-Mobile

Looks like a Lada.

/russkie car

90 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:52:09am

re: #85 reine.de.tout

OT - Fox News alert on TV

Bob Novak announced his immediate retirement - brain tumor prognosis "dire".

But Kennedy can still cast a vote in the Senate? What is wrong with this picture?

91 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:52:16am

re: #80 karmic_inquisitor

Funny, but this looks more like Pelosi's vehicle of choice.

Or maybe this.

92 just another four-letter word  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:52:41am

re: #73 lifeofthemind

Really liked the old main frame computer room with disc drives. Memories.

Ummmm, those were tape drives, probably 9-track 1800tpi.

I've worked on enough of 'em...

JAFLW

93 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:52:50am

re: #87 zombie

Was it you who sent me a picture of a zebra?

Yup. Off of son's phone. Loved the reply!

94 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:53:21am

re: #90 Nevergiveup

Can't necessarily compare the two. Sounds like Novak's cancer is even more severe than that of Kennedy, who's recovering from his surgical treatment.

95 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:53:23am

re: #85 reine.de.tout

OT - Fox News alert on TV

Bob Novak announced his immediate retirement - brain tumor prognosis "dire".

Oh man. Very sad.

Ironic that he and Ted Kennedy would come down with the same thing.

96 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:54:24am

re: #85 reine.de.tout

OT - Fox News alert on TV

Bob Novak announced his immediate retirement - brain tumor prognosis "dire".

Life is very short.

97 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:55:08am

re: #94 lawhawk

Can't necessarily compare the two. Sounds like Novak's cancer is even more severe than that of Kennedy, who's recovering from his surgical treatment.

There's no guarantee Kennedy will survive all the chemo and radiation. They did say in his case that it was too risky to get all the tumor. So, they just have to hope and pray that the chemo and radiation does the trick.

98 Ed Driscoll  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:55:09am

re: #67 lifeofthemind

Well done. It is a form of immortality isn't it?

At least until the server crashes or the video host goes under! ;)

99 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:55:12am

re: #92 just another four-letter word

Ummmm, those were tape drives, probably 9-track 1800tpi.

I've worked on enough of 'em...

JAFLW

Yes of course.

100 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:55:22am

I just got the following message sent to my "YouTube" account. I thought everyone here would enjoy it. A definite "We got mail!" moment:

--------------

zombietime, I'd like to have a chat with you.

I am a liberal. I do not agree with some of the crazy political ideas the left/progressive might have.

However, I am very much anti-Israel. Israel do not deserve to exist. It was founded on terrorism (Irgun, Stern Gang, etc).

Israel is antagonistic to world peace, and that is why there is Islamic uprising against Israel and U.S. for constant geopolitical meddling. Israel needs oil to feed itself. Israel is one of the prime motives for Iraq war.

Israel Zionists have had a hand in 9/11 inside job. Dismiss all you want, you are a deluded human being. I've done my research and it's Israel, with assistance of Neoconservatives, who committed high crimes of treason and sabotage.

Why don't you read George Washington's 1796 farewell address regarding future entanglement between the U.S. and a foreign power? This is a proof and a warning that have been wantonly dismissed and ignored.

You're a member of Little Green Footballs. I wrote the essay "The Inevitability of Self-Destruction: The Decline and Death of Israel", which I am glad to have offended so many bleating sheeple idiots.

When the war comes to Iran, U.S. and Israel will not survive for long. U.S. has entered a fascist phase as a corpocrat plutocrat state ruled by the Establishment since JFK was murdered by the military-industrial complex combine (Pentagon-CIA) in collusion with State of Israel.

When there is a global war declared on Imperial US and Zionist regime, remember three words: Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

zombietime, screw you for your unbalanced representation in the photography work with ridiculous and flippant commentaries typical of right-wing extremities.

DEATH TO ISRAEL.

----------------

Then I made the mistake of checking out his YouTube user's page. Ay Caramba!

101 runrabbitrun  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:56:22am

Just reminds us that the entire narrative 'bible' of the masses had been shaped by the politics of the fifth column MSM and its operatives - at least before the intrusion of the internet.

Bruce Bauer has done a fabulous job in his book 'While Europe Slept' drawing distinctions between the innate beliefs and principles of the majority of native born middle-age to older Europeans, and how their voting patterns had been influenced by the elites and the press. They'd been cowed by being defined by the upper classes as bumpkins if their values were not that of the elites. This has been somewhat reversed with the latest elections in Germany, France, Britain and Italy but not before the continent has taken a lot of damage to its vitality and growth.

I still get steamed everytime the news comes on my talk stations here in NJ - the top AP driven story is always a cherrypicked, anecdotal editorial yarn about the effect of the 'disastrous Bush economy' on some poor family, elderly couple, or mother struggling to feed her kids. No mention of the explosive growth that taken place before the current corrections, not the unemployment levels of years past, including in the Clinton era.

102 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:57:01am

re: #100 zombie

Well at least he doesn't "agree with some of the crazy political ideas the left/progressive might have."

103 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:57:02am

re: #94 lawhawk

Can't necessarily compare the two. Sounds like Novak's cancer is even more severe than that of Kennedy, who's recovering from his surgical treatment.

I think they are both quite severe. It is just that the Senate has such arcane rules. In addition while the honorable thing to do would be to step aside and let a healthy man or women assume the reswponsiblilites of representing their state, that concept never seems to occur to these power hungry people.

104 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:57:05am

re: #93 karmic_inquisitor

Yup. Off of son's phone. Loved the reply!

Ah, off the son's phone. That's why I didn't recognize the email address, and there was no name! You didn't say who you were in the email, so it was a little mysterious.

In any case: hilarious!

105 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:57:25am
106 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:58:14am

re: #100 zombie

That is one sick twisted SOB. I do not generally feel people who disagree with me are always insane, but I feel this one is a danger to itself and others. They should be locked up before they gun down a synagogue or elementary school.

107 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:58:20am

re: #100 zombie

I am having a hard time discerning his political slant from his youtube page.

108 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:58:24am

re: #100 zombie

I just got the following message sent to my "YouTube" account. I thought everyone here would enjoy it. A definite "We got mail!" moment:

--------------

zombietime, I'd like to have a chat with you.

I am a liberal. I do not agree with some of the crazy political ideas the left/progressive might have.

However, I am very much anti-Israel. Israel do not deserve to exist. It was founded on terrorism (Irgun, Stern Gang, etc).

Israel is antagonistic to world peace, and that is why there is Islamic uprising against Israel and U.S. for constant geopolitical meddling. Israel needs oil to feed itself. Israel is one of the prime motives for Iraq war.

Israel Zionists have had a hand in 9/11 inside job. Dismiss all you want, you are a deluded human being. I've done my research and it's Israel, with assistance of Neoconservatives, who committed high crimes of treason and sabotage.

Why don't you read George Washington's 1796 farewell address regarding future entanglement between the U.S. and a foreign power? This is a proof and a warning that have been wantonly dismissed and ignored.

You're a member of Little Green Footballs. I wrote the essay "The Inevitability of Self-Destruction: The Decline and Death of Israel", which I am glad to have offended so many bleating sheeple idiots.

When the war comes to Iran, U.S. and Israel will not survive for long. U.S. has entered a fascist phase as a corpocrat plutocrat state ruled by the Establishment since JFK was murdered by the military-industrial complex combine (Pentagon-CIA) in collusion with State of Israel.

When there is a global war declared on Imperial US and Zionist regime, remember three words: Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

zombietime, screw you for your unbalanced representation in the photography work with ridiculous and flippant commentaries typical of right-wing extremities.

DEATH TO ISRAEL.

----------------

Then I made the mistake of checking out his YouTube user's page. Ay Caramba!

He sounds like a total anti-Semite.

109 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:58:54am

What she wants us to drive:

re: #80 karmic_inquisitor

Look - a Pelre: #91 lawhawk

What she wants to drive:

re: #91 lawhawk

Funny, but this looks more like Pelosi's vehicle of choice.

Or maybe this.

Explains the difference of opinion.

110 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:59:22am

re: #102 karmic_inquisitor

Well at least he doesn't "agree with some of the crazy political ideas the left/progressive might have."

Those ideas must be waaaaay out there.

111 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 10:59:24am

re: #100 zombie

You get the nicest mail!
/

112 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:00:19am

re: #100 zombie

I think that proper authorities need to be informed of a communicated threat, this is serious.

advocate of overthrowing corrupt U.S. government, anti-Zionist, advocate of executing American traitors by guillotine and hanging especially corrupt & subservient Washington statesmen & policymakers l/blockquote> You should report this immediately.
113 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:00:25am

OT:

anyone else's LGF cookies getting 'tossed' ?

I seem to have to re-login to LGF more often than 1/day ... and no, I'm not deleting my own cookies here.

114 Cygnus  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:00:28am

re: #100 zombie

Oy vey.

115 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:00:31am

re: #85 reine.de.tout

OT - Fox News alert on TV

Bob Novak announced his immediate retirement - brain tumor prognosis "dire".

sad for him..
/Hey reine! how the heck are you today?

116 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:01:26am

re: #107 karmic_inquisitor

I am having a hard time discerning his political slant from his youtube page.

Yes -- it's so vague. C'mon, cyberdogg -- speak up for yourself! Tell us what you feel!

117 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:02:44am

re: #108 Ward Cleaver

Gee, ya think?

:P

119 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:03:18am

re: #100 zombie

Sweet jeebus. That's definitely a "you've got mail" moment.

120 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:03:22am

re: #100 zombie

And he calls you unbalanced. The jews were responsible for JFK being shot? Didn't know that.

121 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:03:55am

re: #113 noshariaincanada

Had a problem with login on today at work. The hamsters were running their short, but muscular, legs very rapidly. Repeated login attempts finally persevered.

122 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:04:16am

re: #110 Ward Cleaver

Those ideas must be waaaaay out there.

Apperently those ideas are too far right.

123 Cygnus  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:04:49am

re: #75 karmic_inquisitor

Really?

He 'won' three Purple Hearts, but with Bush as POTUS, the Iraqi people got purple FINGERS!

124 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:05:05am

re: #100 zombie
Don't him get to you Zombie..I read his profile..he's a freak. And he say's he wants to overthrow the US Gov't.. ten bucks says he has never voted.

125 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:05:27am

re: #120 Ford_Prefect

And he calls you unbalanced. The jews were responsible for JFK being shot? Didn't know that.

Yeah & the Titanic. Steinberg, Iceberg? All the same to this guy

126 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:05:41am

re: #121 Conservative in Liberal Hands

that's not what I mean ... I mean after I'm already logged-in, my login is "forgotten" ... either here or at LGF HQ, I'm not sure.

127 RememberSekhmet?  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:05:42am

re: #100 zombie

And of course, he's a Ronulan

128 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:05:42am

re: #123 Cygnus

He 'won' three Purple Hearts, but with Bush as POTUS, the Iraqi people got purple FINGERS!

and Kerry also got one pink bandage.

129 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:06:07am

re: #124 HoosierHoops

Don't him get to you Zombie..I read his profile..he's a freak. And he say's he wants to overthrow the US Gov't.. ten bucks says he has never voted.

The only thing he got to was my funny bone!

130 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:06:16am

One night in Baghdad.

Rush parody song.

131 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:06:26am

Canadian Greyhound bus decapitator update

Fox story says he hacked off and ate pieces of his seatmate. Yuck. He's an immigrant from China.

132 SummerSong  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:06:27am

re: #100 zombie

"This is a proof ..."

Gee, where have I heard that phrase before? Oh yeah, I remember...

133 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:06:43am

re: #122 Ford_Prefect

Apperently those ideas are too far right.

Too centrist.

134 Dianna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:06:53am

re: #124 HoosierHoops

Don't him get to you Zombie..I read his profile..he's a freak. And he say's he wants to overthrow the US Gov't.. ten bucks says he has never voted.

Of course not - that would be buying into the system with the rest of the sheeple.

Bet he really does think that way.

135 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:07:19am

re: #131 Ward Cleaver

Canadian Greyhound bus decapitator update

Fox story says he hacked off and ate pieces of his seatmate. Yuck. He's an immigrant from China.

We must learn to accept the cultural mores of immigrants!

/lll offf

136 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:07:21am

re: #125 opnion

Yeah & the Titanic. Steinberg, Iceberg? All the same to this guy

Looks like he experienced a permanent brain freeze.

137 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:07:32am

re: #131 Ward Cleaver

Fox story says he hacked off and ate pieces of his seatmate.

Now that's just plain bad manners.

138 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:07:49am

re: #132 SummerSong

"This is a proof ..."

Gee, where have I heard that phrase before? Oh yeah, I remember...

There was much troofiness in what he was saying.

139 Cygnus  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:07:50am

re: #128 Mars Needs Neocons

and Kerry also got one pink bandage.

And his picture in that North Vietnamese Communist museum.

140 just another four-letter word  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:07:59am

re: #79 Ford_Prefect

"sentimental value". Does that mean it was the first car you ever "parked" in?

No, that was my '67 Camaro...

JAFLW

141 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:08:36am

re: #139 Cygnus

And his picture in that North Vietnamese Communist museum.

and the statues of him on Easter Island.

142 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:08:41am

re: #136 Ford_Prefect

Looks like he experienced a permanent brain freeze.

You know this guy lives in his parents basement & is scared to death of girls.

143 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:09:16am

re: #128 Mars Needs Neocons

and Kerry also got one pink bandage.

He carries the shrapnel errr. rice to this day as a reminder.

144 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:09:18am

re: #125 opnion

Yeah & the Titanic. Steinberg, Iceberg? All the same to this guy

Ah, you mean the classic:

"I hate Jews!"

"Why?"

"Because they sank the Titanic!"

"The Jews sunk the Titanic? I thought it was sunk by an iceberg!"

"Goldberg, iceberg -- they're all the same."

145 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:09:28am

re: #129 zombie

The only thing he got to was my funny bone!

BTW..Saw your unedited version of that SF street sex party..
I was thinking..alright finally the boob thread everyone always talks about.. It's bad enough it was a bunch of naked guys..But they were out of shape, ugly dudes..
/Why did you do that to me Zombie? Why?
hehehehe

146 Ed Driscoll  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:09:34am

re: #100 zombie

Then I made the mistake of checking out his YouTube user's page. Ay Caramba!

Sheesh.

Yes, nothing says "thoughtful, nuanced commentary" like blinking "FUCK ISRAEL!" wallpaper.

147 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:10:05am

re: #144 zombie

Ah, you mean the classic:

"I hate Jews!"

"Why?"

"Because they sank the Titanic!"

"The Jews sunk the Titanic? I thought it was sunk by an iceberg!"

"Goldberg, iceberg -- they're all the same."

Thats it

148 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:10:41am

re: #142 opnion

You know this guy lives in his parents basement & is scared to death of girls.

With a psychological perspective, I would also say there is a chance he has in the past tortured small animals. He's pretty sure people are watching him, and following him. I'm sure he has some pretty elaborate (and useless) security devices along the lines of the tin foil hat.

149 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:11:48am

re: #145 HoosierHoops

BTW..Saw your unedited version of that SF street sex party..
I was thinking..alright finally the boob thread everyone always talks about.. It's bad enough it was a bunch of naked guys..But they were out of shape, ugly dudes..
/Why did you do that to me Zombie? Why?
hehehehe

I think we need some more nude beach pics to make up for that, but without the poor, suffering seal this time.

150 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:12:39am

re: #148 Mars Needs Neocons

With a psychological perspective, I would also say there is a chance he has in the past tortured small animals. He's pretty sure people are watching him, and following him. I'm sure he has some pretty elaborate (and useless) security devices along the lines of the tin foil hat.


He does sound very disturbed. He should go get some help, but the odds are that he will sink deeper into his delusions

151 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:13:18am

re: #131 Ward Cleaver
Hey Ward! From your link: "Li faces second-degree murder charges. He said nothing during his first court appearance Friday and has yet to enter a plea. He remains in custody and is due back in court Tuesday."

SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES? WTH does someone have to do up there to face First Degree
Murder Charges?!

152 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:13:23am

re: #140 just another four-letter word

No, that was my '67 Camaro...

JAFLW

Reminds me. About 20 years ago I almost bought a '67 Camaro convertable. Beautiful car in near mint condition. Unfortunately the price tag was a little too high. I got talking to the guy though and he told me that some 17 year old kid had come and looked at it and was going to buy it. They went into the house to write up the paperwork and the kid started talking about putting mags on it and souping up the engine and all this other stuff. The guy threw the kid out of his house and told him he wasn't going to ruin his car. Beautiful.

153 wolfie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:13:26am

re: #90 Nevergiveup

But Kennedy can still cast a vote in the Senate? What is wrong with this picture?

Well, in Kennedy's case how could the votes get any stupider than they already are?
(Or as my smart-alecky 13 yr old asked me a couple of days ago in all seriousness, "How will I be able to know the difference when you get dementia?")

154 Dianna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:13:51am

Has anyone else clicked through to his website? the letter-writer's site

155 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:14:14am

re: #142 opnion

You know this guy lives in his parents basement & is scared to death of girls.

On the other hand he did show some sense of graphic outlay, although a little busy, and basic html skills.

156 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:14:32am

re: #150 opnion

He does sound very disturbed. He should go get some help, but the odds are that he will sink deeper into his delusions

That's why someone needs to report him now. I'm only being partially sarcastic about his profile. I really do believe there is a chance that if he gets his hands on firearms he will hurt someone. A lot of someones.

157 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:14:39am

re: #142 opnion

You know this guy lives in his parents basement & is scared to death of girls.

Girls are all in on the conspiracy. It's all part of the plan to keep us down. And the jews are responsible.

158 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:15:44am

re: #151 realwest

Hey Ward! From your link: "Li faces second-degree murder charges. He said nothing during his first court appearance Friday and has yet to enter a plea. He remains in custody and is due back in court Tuesday."

SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES? WTH does someone have to do up there to face First Degree
Murder Charges?!

The fact that it wasn't premeditated to a particular victim seems to be the defining reason it isn't first degree. He would have had to choose his victim in advance, plan it out, then execute it.

159 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:15:56am

re: #137 Occasional Reader Heh!

160 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:16:19am

re: #100 zombie

sounds like the undead is getting under someones skin......The guy gives every popular conspiracy credence.kinda shows how gullible he is.sad really,living in a nightmare world of dark motives.this guy should be pitied.(after being suitably mocked of course)

161 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:16:22am

re: #149 Mars Needs Neocons

I think we need some more nude beach pics to make up for that, but without the poor, suffering seal this time.

zombietime: pornographer to the blogosphere since 2003!

162 Semper Gumbi  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:16:25am

wow, just wow!

I just checked the financial news over at Yahoo. Oil has dropped another 4 dollars or so today. Embedded in the story is the note that Barry O has called for releasing oil from the strategic petroleum reserve, implying that this is one of the reasons for the drop.

Not once in the last two weeks of oil prices dropping was it ever mentioned that oil price drops coincided with announcments by the Administration that the moritorium on offshore oil drilling had been rescinded or other bullish statements calling for increased drilling of our domestic resources. They completely attribute the price drop to market forces.

Fricken hypocrites! Bastards! In the tank for Barry!

163 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:16:51am

re: #155 lifeofthemind

On the other hand he did show some sense of graphic outlay, although a little busy, and basic html skills.

Probably not. I use software that produces things like that.

164 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:17:00am

OT : anyone with a bent towards seeking out eco-hypocrites, this database is very helpful.

It is the FAA aircraft registry and the page I linked is a result of the search for "Gulfstream" aircraft.

Select a model and click on a state (or total to see details regardless of state) and you get to see who owns what kinds of Gulfstreams.

Like David Geffen, Jim Carey, Oprah and the current president of the Carter Center (yes - Jimmy Carter's advocacy center, which has a LOT to say about global warming).

Some of the registrants will try to hide who they are with odd names of an LLC which simply owns the plane - but sometimes those names give them away (like "Virtucon" in San Diego - likely to be either Mike Meyers). Others are through banks (when you see a bank name and "trustee" then it is an individual who doesn't want you to know.)

But plenty are there, including corporations that want to beat you green with smugness yet fly these things around (like EBay - why do they need a jet - to deliver second hand shit?)

Happy hunting.

165 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:17:03am

re: #151 realwest

SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES? WTH does someone have to do up there to face First Degree Murder Charges?!

Try harder? May be reserved for killing a law enforcement officer or other special cases. Either that or the famous Canadian reserve and modesty.

166 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:17:18am

re: #161 zombie

zombietime: pornographer to the blogosphere since 2003!

lol

167 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:17:18am

re: #154 Dianna

Has anyone else clicked through to his website? the letter-writer's site

OMG! He is just a punk kid..figures..

168 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:17:21am

re: #151 realwest

Hey Ward! From your link: "Li faces second-degree murder charges. He said nothing during his first court appearance Friday and has yet to enter a plea. He remains in custody and is due back in court Tuesday."

SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES? WTH does someone have to do up there to face First Degree
Murder Charges?!

He only ate a part of the body. He would have had to consume the entire thing.

169 scottishbuzzsaw  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:17:35am

re: #153 wolfie

(Or as my smart-alecky 13 yr old asked me a couple of days ago in all seriousness, "How will I be able to know the difference when you get dementia?")

LOL! Sounds like an offspring I know!

170 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:18:03am

re: #159 realwest

rw how go's it?

171 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:18:05am

re: #161 zombie

zombietime: pornographer to the blogosphere since 2003!

I only offer my suggestion, because the male members of LGF are running low on brain bleach. If you think oil is expensive, try buying that by the barrel.

172 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:18:21am

re: #156 Mars Needs Neocons

That's why someone needs to report him now. I'm only being partially sarcastic about his profile. I really do believe there is a chance that if he gets his hands on firearms he will hurt someone. A lot of someones.

He made no specific threat, so I don't know if the authorities can do anything.

173 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:18:57am

re: #151 realwest

Hey Ward! From your link: "Li faces second-degree murder charges. He said nothing during his first court appearance Friday and has yet to enter a plea. He remains in custody and is due back in court Tuesday."

SECOND DEGREE MURDER CHARGES? WTH does someone have to do up there to face First Degree
Murder Charges?!

I think they're using 2nd to hold him, 1st requires premeditation, they collect evidence and if they find evidence for that they'll revise the charges.

174 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:19:18am

Ed, you're experiencing first-hand what having a thread on LGF is like: Every topic under the sun is discussed except the topic of the thread itself. To make up for the deficit: Love the slick production values in your video!

175 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:20:18am
176 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:20:46am

If anyone is listening to Rush, the clip he just played comes from the video I linked earlier.

Just what Obama needs: another celebutard endorsement.

Keep it coming, you dunderheads.

177 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:20:53am

re: #174 zombie

Ed, you're experiencing first-hand what having a thread on LGF is like: Every topic under the sun is discussed except the topic of the thread itself. To make up for the deficit: Love the slick production values in your video!

But it is all very subtle ... the more the readers like the link the more they talk about other subjects.

We a complex culture filled with nuance. Just ask Mandy.

178 Cygnus  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:21:02am

re: #131 Ward Cleaver

Canadian Greyhound bus decapitator update

Fox story says he hacked off and ate pieces of his seatmate. Yuck. He's an immigrant from China.

Gee, all he wanted was chicken fingers at McDonalds and that darn bus driver just wouldn't stop.
//////////

Totally gross. Ewwwww.

179 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:21:02am

re: #172 opnion

He made no specific threat, so I don't know if the authorities can do anything.

Actually I believe that advocating the overthrow of the US government is still illegal. If he can be held for that, then they can run the required psych tests needed to lock him up for public safety.

180 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:21:29am

re: #174 zombie

Ed, you're experiencing first-hand what having a thread on LGF is like: Every topic under the sun is discussed except the topic of the thread itself. To make up for the deficit: Love the slick production values in your video!

We are suppose to discuss the thread's topic?
Who knew!

181 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:21:29am

And Voila!

182 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:21:38am

re: #176 JammieWearingFool

If anyone is listening to Rush, the clip he just played comes from the video I linked earlier.

Just what Obama needs: another celebutard endorsement.

Keep it coming, you dunderheads.

was listening and "new age education" ad came up ... ROTFL !

183 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:21:58am

Yes I reported him, citizen's duty really. Yes we all should. Any one says they're an

advocate of overthrowing corrupt U.S. government, ... advocate of executing American traitors by guillotine and hanging especially corrupt & subservient Washington statesmen & policymakers

may not be covered by the 1st Amendment. Not saying I'm sure about it, just saying let the professionals look at it and decide.

184 runrabbitrun  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:22:27am

re: #142 opnion

You know this guy lives in his parents basement & is scared to death of girls.


You got that right! let's hope the conventional wisdom is true that the real activist planners are the rigidly controlled 'quiet ones' who would never leak symptoms and signs of their psychoses....

(except maybe to the other Kos kiddies)

185 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:22:59am

re: #158 Mars Needs Neocons Wow, well that's a relief! Knowing that some lunatic (not to prejudge or anything!) could attack your spouse, friend or relative, hack them to pieces, cut off their head and eat part of them won't have to face First Degree Murder Charges - yeah, that'd satisfy me ok.

We have criminal laws for many reasons. Some include the (hopeful) deterrence to anyone from committing the crime and others.
But one of the philosophic reasons behind criminal law is to show "the people" that justice is being served to avoid "the people" from taking the law into their own hands.
This case doesn't satisfy that reason by a long shot.

186 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:23:09am

re: #184 runrabbitrun

You got that right! let's hope the conventional wisdom is true that the real activist planners are the rigidly controlled 'quiet ones' who would never leak symptoms and signs of their psychoses....

(except maybe to the other Kos kiddies)

As I've seen, the loudest are the least active.

187 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:23:26am

re: #182 noshariaincanada

was listening and "new age education" ad came up ... ROTFL !

Watch the video and tell if there's a single person in it you don't want to pimpslap.

Taught about haughtiness.

BTW, where the hell have you been the last couple of years?

188 wolfie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:23:33am

re: #100 zombie

Ay Caramba, indeed.
What scares me is that the substance of the letter has become acceptable in academia. Not representative of a majority, mind you, but acceptable discourse worthy of serious consideration.

(And I'm not navigating the corridors of Berkeley, to understate the case. The places I teach are quite conservative by academic standards.)

189 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:24:11am

re: #140 just another four-letter word

I was just thinking about all the things I might have saved from my "first time"?

190 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:24:15am

re: #183 lifeofthemind

Wonder if this character has a framed shrine to robespierre

191 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:24:38am

re: #185 realwest

I fully agree. I've believed for years that the laws are not being applied correctly. I guess that holds true for Canada as well. Of course you realize it doesn't matter what they charge him with, he'll be psych institutionalized for the rest of his life if Canada law is like ours.

192 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:25:40am

re: #170 Boondock St. Bender Not so well I'm sad to say. Still feeling "sick" as I did yesterday and can't even sleep through it.
Hopefully tomorrow I'll be feeling better. Thanks for asking.

193 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:25:51am

re: #179 Mars Needs Neocons

Actually I believe that advocating the overthrow of the US government is still illegal. If he can be held for that, then they can run the required psych tests needed to lock him up for public safety.

I am not sure that even that is a good enough reason. If that were the case a lot of Obmas associates would be arrested.
It would not hurt to report the guy though.

194 Iron Fist  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:25:56am

You know, maybe the guy was just hungry! Haven't you ever been hungry? We have to fight hunger! Cannibalism is a Right!

[/L³eftist L³ogic]

195 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:26:17am

re: #180 jcm

We are suppose to discuss the thread's topic?
Who knew!

I figure there is probably a thread to cover the topic we are discussing somewhere. Charles should be placing all of these comments in their proper thread. It isn't our fault that they just show up where we put them.

196 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:26:54am

re: #190 Boondock St. Bender

Wonder if this character has a framed shrine to robespierre

I'm constantly surprised about how much modern liberalism is the child of the Fwench Revolution.

197 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:27:09am

re: #192 realwest
hang in there.did you talk to your oral sug.about the bone graft?

198 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:27:39am

re: #195 Ford_Prefect

I figure there is probably a thread to cover the topic we are discussing somewhere. Charles should be placing all of these comments in their proper thread. It isn't our fault that they just show up where we put them.

LOL!
Careful, Stinky might get upset with us!
;-)

199 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:28:04am

re: #196 Mars Needs Neocons

Sure overthrow a repressive govt.and install one even more repressive!

200 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:28:21am

re: #196 Mars Needs Neocons

I'm constantly surprised about how much modern liberalism is the child of the Fwench Revolution.

Sadly, Jefferson was an admirer of the French Revolution.
It gave John Adams fits.

201 runrabbitrun  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:28:29am

re: #186 Mars Needs Neocons

As I've seen, the loudest are the least active.

and the ones who slam the door with the most force while screeching "this is the last you'll see of ME! You won't have me to push around any more *snif*" are amongst the fastest to return....

(Cindy Sheehan comes to mind)

202 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:28:51am

re: #100 zombie

Why don't you read George Washington's 1796 farewell address regarding future entanglement between the U.S. and a foreign power?

Maybe he should read George Washington's thank you letter to the American Jewish community.

Who does that moron think funded the Revolution?

203 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:29:18am

Well, the quite guy I work with who I always thought was level headed confided in me today that we're all doomed and that if only Ron Paul had made it, we would be okay.

204 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:29:23am

re: #193 opnion

I am not sure that even that is a good enough reason. If that were the case a lot of Obmas associates would be arrested.
It would not hurt to report the guy though.

I think the rules haven't changed,but enforcement has. Don't forget that there was a time that treason was used for offenses far less than those committed by the Dem congress. Yes there was abuse involved, but it really hasn't been determined which uses crossed the line. For at least 100 years free speech has had limits.

205 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:29:24am

re: #200 opnion

Sadly, Jefferson was an admirer of the French Revolution.
It gave John Adams fits.

Jefferson also slept with his slaves. Not sure, but there has got to be a connection there?

206 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:29:46am

re: #197 Boondock St. Bender Nope, I'll do it when I go in to get the tooth extracted. In three weeks.
Shit.

207 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:29:54am

re: #199 Boondock St. Bender

Sure overthrow a repressive govt.and install one even more repressive!

That should be the DNC slogan.

208 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:29:58am

BTW - Obama's "Kike" blogger still has her page at barackobama.com including a summary of her "kike filth" post.

209 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:29:58am

re: #187 JammieWearingFool


BTW, where the hell have you been the last couple of years?

The simple answer is I had a new ID, and recently lost posting privileges due to posting-while-under-the-influence. So I'm back to posting with the old ID and hope to not offend Charles or Stinky.

(thanks for asking, btw)

210 Dianna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:30:12am

re: #167 HoosierHoops

He's 29. Not a kid, but definitely a punk.

211 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:30:42am

re: #206 realwest

Nope, I'll do it when I go in to get the tooth extracted. In three weeks.
Shit.

Why are you talking about a "Bone graft"?

212 Miss Trixie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:31:09am

re: #131 Ward Cleaver

Canadian Greyhound bus decapitator update

Fox story says he hacked off and ate pieces of his seatmate. Yuck. He's an immigrant from China.

If it's true, our CBC have sanitized the fact the he's a muslim and was motivated by the koran.

Link.

213 realwest  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:31:40am

Well I gotta go now all y'all. I hope you have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

214 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:32:05am

You all know by now that not only has removed the American flag from the tail, but sits on a chair that says, "President Obama?"

215 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:32:11am

re: #202 Ben Hur

most history books credit the french crown.although they didn't get involved until two years into the war(officially)where did the funding come before then?most books are silent

216 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:32:21am

re: #203 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Well, the quite guy I work with who I always thought was level headed confided in me today that we're all doomed and that if only Ron Paul had made it, we would be okay.

Hmmm. Time to start wearing Kevlar to work.

217 alegrias  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:32:24am

re: #103 Nevergiveup

I think they are both quite severe. It is just that the Senate has such arcane rules. In addition while the honorable thing to do would be to step aside and let a healthy man or women assume the reswponsiblilites of representing their state, that concept never seems to occur to these power hungry people.

* * *
Bob Novak's NOT on the public dole like dinosaurs Senators Kennedy & Byrd.

218 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:32:32am

re: #205 Nevergiveup

Jefferson also slept with his slaves. Not sure, but there has got to be a connection there?

Jefferson was also conflicted on slavery."

Where the disease [slavery] is most deeply seated, there it will be slowest in eradication. In the northern States, it was merely superficial and easily corrected. In the southern, it is incorporated with the whole system and requires time, patience, and perseverance in the curative process."

He recognized the disease, but economic realities of slavery were not easily remedied.

219 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:32:36am

re: #212 Miss Trixie

If it's true, our CBC have sanitized the fact the he's a muslim and was motivated by the koran.

Link.

Without any accurate quotes this will be hard to accept. I think this needs more than the 48 hour rule.

220 just another four-letter word  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:32:45am

re: #152 Ford_Prefect

Reminds me. About 20 years ago I almost bought a '67 Camaro convertable. Beautiful car in near mint condition. Unfortunately the price tag was a little too high. I got talking to the guy though and he told me that some 17 year old kid had come and looked at it and was going to buy it. They went into the house to write up the paperwork and the kid started talking about putting mags on it and souping up the engine and all this other stuff. The guy threw the kid out of his house and told him he wasn't going to ruin his car. Beautiful.

Now THAT guy has his head screwed on properly. I'd have probably shot the kid. Oh, wait, he was a 17-year-old kid! My bad.

JAFLW

221 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:32:54am

re: #204 Mars Needs Neocons

I think the rules haven't changed,but enforcement has. Don't forget that there was a time that treason was used for offenses far less than those committed by the Dem congress. Yes there was abuse involved, but it really hasn't been determined which uses crossed the line. For at least 100 years free speech has had limits.


Free speech is not an absolute right, yelling fire in a theatre, specific threats etc.
Your point is well taken about treason. When John Kerry & Jane Fonda got a pass for clear treason, you knew that the enforcement standard had changed.

222 MandyManners  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:33:23am

re: #212 Miss Trixie

If it's true, our CBC have sanitized the fact the he's a muslim and was motivated by the koran.

Link.

A Chinese Muslim, Li expressed to investigators that his actions were motivated by the Koran.Later, according to the site, the above quote was removed, but kept by several bloggers

.

223 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:34:13am

re: #221 opnion

Free speech is not an absolute right, yelling fire in a theatre, specific threats etc.
Your point is well taken about treason. When John Kerry & Jane Fonda got a pass for clear treason, you knew that the enforcement standard had changed.

I'm not a fan of Wilson or FDR, but both used the treason rules liberally, as did Lincoln.

224 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:34:28am

Turns out that "ni**er" is a popular word over at my.barackobama.com

This blog is a real peach.

225 Miss Trixie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:34:37am

re: #219 Mars Needs Neocons

Without any accurate quotes this will be hard to accept. I think this needs more than the 48 hour rule.

I completely agree with you. I also wouldn't put it past the Canadian Communist Broadcasting slugs to stifle that fact if/when it's true.

226 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:35:23am

re: #225 Miss Trixie

I completely agree with you. I also wouldn't put it past the Canadian Communist Broadcasting slugs to stifle that fact if/when it's true.

Well they wouldn't want called before the tribunals HRC.

227 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:35:27am

FOX News Cameraman Helps Rescue Injured Marine From Insurgent Blast in Afghanistan

Why do I get the feeling that this will be taught in J-school as the "wrong thing to do."

228 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:35:29am

Just go to [Link: www.fbi.gov...] when you see something that bad, don't flood it with partisan nonsense, this is a free country. Idiots like that can be found and used as muscle or bomb carriers by the professional killers. He may be a crazy amateur but that doesn't mean he isn't dangerous.

Now is it possible that a video editor at CNN can do their job and then go home and scrawl stuff this hateful? Sure it is and the problem is that it gets easier for the angry and dysfunctional to express in public views that would have meant self destruction 50 years ago. The French Ambassador gets away with calling Israel a "shitty little country" and the cast of the View can say things that should result in unemployment and a week in the happy house. Now this crazy person has no anchor holding him back from getting help for his delusions.

229 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:35:47am

re: #208 karmic_inquisitor

i guess she doesn't relise using words like "kike"doesn't make her sound all that smart.she probably thinks she's stripped the mask off the monster,but all she sounds like is a knuckle dragging trogledyte.

230 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:35:51am

re: #218 jcm

He recognized the disease, but economic realities of slavery were not easily remedied.


Yeah, but even in death he did not release his slaves.

231 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:36:24am

re: #11 JammieWearingFool

Wow, Rather still had hair back in 2000.

Now he's just a beaten man with thinning hair and no career.

Oh well.

"Jammie" -

Dan Rather has become the wrong side of Dorian Grey's mirror, hasn't he.

-S-

232 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:36:41am

re: #211 Nevergiveup

repair of a tooth(crack,or break to save the tooth)

233 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:36:41am

re: #202 Ben Hur

Maybe he should read George Washington's thank you letter to the American Jewish community.

Who does that moron think funded the Revolution?

The French gave lots of money. Also the Germans. I'm not aware that there was organized Jewish funding
(thats why I LOVE this place,,, even as old and curmudgeonly as I am, I still learn stuff)

234 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:36:49am

re: #228 lifeofthemind

Nicely written. Why do I suspect if Islam ever grabbed hold here, we would have a couple thousand willing leftist human bombs?

235 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:37:25am

re: #230 opnion

Yeah, but even in death he did not release his slaves.

"Zombie Jefferson Hates Black People"

/lll

236 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:37:55am

re: #215 Boondock St. Bender
The Dutch,Sweedes,Norway,.....
An ancestor on my greatgrandfathers side.....Last name of Boon ,was a wealthy merchant in Philly.
He and many others helped funding move from Holland to where ever it was needed!
His properties were where present day Penn Station stands now!

237 JohnnyReb  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:38:03am

re: #230 opnion

Yeah, but even in death he did not release his slaves.


Actually IIRC he released one.

238 Miss Trixie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:38:03am

re: #226 Mars Needs Neocons

Well they wouldn't want called before the tribunals HRC.

*snort*

239 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:38:37am

re: #227 Ben Hur

FOX News Cameraman Helps Rescue Injured Marine From Insurgent Blast in Afghanistan

Why do I get the feeling that this will be taught in J-school as the "wrong thing to do."

That's in the links. I know because I put it there. :D

How's things, Ben?

BTW, you suppose another network will report this heroic rescue?

240 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:38:50am

re: #232 Boondock St. Bender

repair of a tooth(crack,or break to save the tooth)

Bone graft will not work for that to well.

241 Dianna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:39:27am

re: #222 MandyManners

My reaction is that I'd like to see the screen captures before I make any judgment whatever.

242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:39:27am

re: #227 Ben Hur

FOX News Cameraman Helps Rescue Injured Marine From Insurgent Blast in Afghanistan

Why do I get the feeling that this will be taught in J-school as the "wrong thing to do."

Wasn't he told not to get involved with the story? He needs to spend some time on the Obama fluffer detail.

/

Kidding aside, too bad there arent more like him

243 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:40:22am

re: #228 lifeofthemind

A shitty little country that would kick seven kinds of shit out of that sad former world power.

244 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:40:23am

As noted above, it's a little late in the thread to be on topic, but surprise!

Whenever I see these guys (MSM) in action, this song from my past pops into my head.

I seems to sum up for me the whole freaky deaky, dried-banana-peel smoking, crystal-holding, mantra chanting, let-somebody-else-take-care-of-everything attitude that is consumed with good intentions and afflicted with bad actions.

And when I see Ed's fedora it brings a smile to my face.

245 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:40:24am

re: #223 Mars Needs Neocons

I'm not a fan of Wilson or FDR, but both used the treason rules liberally, as did Lincoln.

The statutes governing treason like any laws can be abused.
But Kerry running over to Paris collaborating with the enemy & Jane Fonda going over to North Vietnam to comfort the enemy, really left no reasonable room for interpretation

246 alegrias  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:40:54am

re: #164 karmic_inquisitor

OT : anyone with a bent towards seeking out eco-hypocrites, this database is very helpful.

It is the FAA aircraft registry and the page I linked is a result of the search for "Gulfstream" aircraft.

Select a model and click on a state (or total to see details regardless of state) and you get to see who owns what kinds of Gulfstreams.

Like David Geffen, Jim Carey, Oprah and the current president of the Carter Center (yes - Jimmy Carter's advocacy center, which has a LOT to say about global warming).

Some of the registrants will try to hide who they are with odd names of an LLC which simply owns the plane - but sometimes those names give them away (like "Virtucon" in San Diego - likely to be either Mike Meyers). Others are through banks (when you see a bank name and "trustee" then it is an individual who doesn't want you to know.)

But plenty are there, including corporations that want to beat you green with smugness yet fly these things around (like EBay - why do they need a jet - to deliver second hand shit?)

Happy hunting.

* * *
Someone should create a Green Wall of Shame! But they most certainly are the same as the Blame America First Crowd.

Thanks for the clue.

247 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:41:05am

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wasn't he told not to get involved with the story? He needs to spend some time on the Obama fluffer detail.

/

Kidding aside, too bad there arent more like him

Don't forget that cameramen generally don't come from journalism school. Maybe he's from a standard college and hasn't been brainwashed. (Of course considering what they call "student films" lately he probably didn't graduate film school either)

248 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:41:10am

re: #242 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wasn't he told not to get involved with the story? He needs to spend some time on the Obama fluffer detail.

/

Kidding aside, too bad there arent more like him

And apparently he is one of Ollie's guys. That appears about right.

249 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:41:10am

re: #234 Mars Needs Neocons

Nicely written. Why do I suspect if Islam ever grabbed hold here, we would have a couple thousand willing leftist human bombs?

Updings shamelessly solicited.

250 Dianna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:41:27am

re: #230 opnion

Yeah, but even in death he did not release his slaves.

To be scrupulously fair, Jefferson was so deeply in debt that he could not possibly have emancipated his slaves.

251 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:42:00am

re: #215 Boondock St. Bender

most history books credit the french crown.although they didn't get involved until two years into the war(officially)where did the funding come before then?most books are silent


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haym_Solomon

The short "Wiki" version.

Otherwise:


Race-baiting ad of the day: Democrat compares opponent to Klansman

On Representative COHEN.

252 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:42:13am

re: #235 Mars Needs Neocons

"Zombie Jefferson Hates Black People"

/lll

Actually, I think that Jefferson was concerned for their welfare if he released them.

253 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:42:39am

re: #245 opnion

The statutes governing treason like any laws can be abused.
But Kerry running over to Paris collaborating with the enemy & Jane Fonda going over to North Vietnam to comfort the enemy, really left no reasonable room for interpretation

I agree, I also think his blatant lies should have been called on. That would have nailed him for perjury too. Of course I'm sure that in order to fight it, we would have had to reveal classified material and that wouldn't have gone either.

254 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:42:41am

re: #230 opnion

the other day someone here posted that he tried on a few occasions to free his slaves,but his creditors took him to court to prevent it.
i forget who posted it.
anyone else remember this?

255 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:43:52am

re: #236 reloadingisnotahobby

that is cool.

256 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:44:18am

re: #227 Ben Hur

FOX News Cameraman Helps Rescue Injured Marine From Insurgent Blast in Afghanistan

Why do I get the feeling that this will be taught in J-school as the "wrong thing to do."

If he had instead just stood by an filmed while the wounded Marine had burned to death in the Humvee, he'd have probably gotten a whole wing at Columbia J-School named after him.

257 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:44:37am

re: #239 JammieWearingFool

Moi?

Scroll up?

258 slokat  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:45:12am

Off Topic - Charles, for the last 24 hours the site has repeatedly "kicked me off" (such as require me to log in after pushing the new comments button).

Then couldn't get in at all this AM, until after I sent an email...

Haven't changed anything on my end.
(also - NOT complaining, just reporting my experience)

259 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:45:14am

re: #250 Dianna

To be scrupulously fair, Jefferson was so deeply in debt that he could not possibly have emancipated his slaves.

Jefferson was a notorious poor money manager. He was a libertine , who liked to live lavishly.
He borrowed extensively from John Adams.

260 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:45:17am

re: #252 opnion

Actually, I think that Jefferson was concerned for their welfare if he released them.

I know, I was just using the journalistic standards of todays media.

261 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:45:23am

re: #233 sattv4u2

The French gave lots of money. Also the Germans. I'm not aware that there was organized Jewish funding
(thats why I LOVE this place,,, even as old and curmudgeonly as I am, I still learn stuff)

Der Juden did the raisin'

262 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:45:39am

re: #240 Nevergiveup

mandy and myself had it done(i had one tooth repaired,and mandy had two done).the tooth was repaired ohh i guess 8-10 years ago,and is still working fine.(rear molar)

263 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:46:47am

re: #256 Occasional Reader

If he had instead just stood by an filmed while the wounded Marine had burned to death in the Humvee, he'd have probably gotten a whole wing at Columbia J-School named after him.

EFFEN A!

264 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:46:51am

re: #256 Occasional Reader

If he had instead just stood by an filmed while the wounded Marine had burned to death in the Humvee, he'd have probably gotten a whole wing at Columbia J-School named after him.

Right , must not take sides.

265 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:47:10am

re: #251 Ben Hur

thanks!

266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:47:24am

Here we go again:

Iran tests 'new anti-ship weapon'

Revolutionary Guards commander Gen Mohammad Ali Jafari did not say where or when the new weapon was tested or what kind of technology it used.

"The weapon has been developed entirely using domestic technology and according to our information so far no country has used this technology before," Gen Jafari said.

"We can confidently say that none of the enemy's vessels or warships operating in a radius of more than 300km from Iran's borders will be safe from this weapon, and without a doubt, they will be sunk deep into the region's waters."

267 Dianna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:48:59am

re: #259 opnion

I know he was a poor manager of money, but he also had horrible luck.

I didn't know he borrowed from Adams; I didn't think Adams had much money of his own?

268 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:49:02am

Major powers - the United States, Russia, China, France, Britain and Germany - laid

Bush's hard headed Unilateralism.

But they will listen to Baruch.

269 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:49:07am

Well, Lizards. I must be off. At least that what my wife says about me. Post you later.

270 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:49:16am

re: #262 Boondock St. Bender

mandy and myself had it done(i had one tooth repaired,and mandy had two done).the tooth was repaired ohh i guess 8-10 years ago,and is still working fine.(rear molar)

You can have bone grafts done to stabilize the supporting structure around a tooth, depending upon the type of bone lose that case presents. From talking to realwest in the past, I don't get the impression that is the problem with his tooth. Just my impressions from a far as a practicing dentist for the last 28 years.

271 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:49:47am

re: #266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I found a photo of the tests.

272 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:49:56am

re: #260 Mars Needs Neocons

I know, I was just using the journalistic standards of todays media.


I didn't take your comment literally. I just wandere a little.

273 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:50:47am

Off Topic...Did y'all know they're holding Olympic games this year?

I'd lost track. Long, long ago (I think in response to the USSR going into Afghanistan) an American president called for boycotting the games. That worked out so well for me that I simply continued the boycott every Olympic.

It was for my own protection, more than anything. Those Iron Curtain female athletes scared the bejeebus out of me. And embarrassed me too, since each and every one of them seemed to be able to grow a more luxurious mustache than I.

274 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:50:50am

re: #266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Here we go again:

Iran tests 'new anti-ship weapon'

I guess we'll just have to take their word for it, then.

/

275 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:50:55am

re: #272 opnion

I didn't take your comment literally. I just wandere a little.

I know, but I couldn't resist a free shot at the media.

277 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:51:56am

re: #267 Dianna

I know he was a poor manager of money, but he also had horrible luck.

I didn't know he borrowed from Adams; I didn't think Adams had much money of his own?

Yes, John & Abagail had some money. Although Jefferson & Adams politically clashed at times, Adams had great fondness & respect for Jefferson.

278 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:51:58am

re: #266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Here we go again:

Iran tests 'new anti-ship weapon'



Secret picture just smuggled out.

279 alegrias  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:52:13am

re: #248 Nevergiveup

And apparently he is one of Ollie's guys. That appears about right.

* * *
I would have loved Oliver North to have won election to Senator from my state, to replace Sen. Chuck Robb in 1994!

The "revolution" of 1994 wasn't complete, but Olliver North's doing miracles on TV's "War Stories". Bless him & his family for outsmarting those out to bring him down for serving Pres. Reagan.

280 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:52:55am

re: #275 Mars Needs Neocons

I know, but I couldn't resist a free shot at the media.

That is always highly recommended.

281 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:52:59am

re: #270 Nevergiveup

ahhh what would you know!?;-)lol I yeild to your superior knowledge.just trying to help realwest.

282 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:53:56am

re: #266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Indeed. They're hoping that with enough of these claims, the West will back down and back off their demands to end Iran's nuclear program.

Iran, however, has been known to exaggerate their capabilities, though this is a dangerous game for all.

283 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:54:07am

re: #281 Boondock St. Bender

ahhh what would you know!?;-)lol I yeild to your superior knowledge.just trying to help realwest.

I can't believe he can't get in faster to have that tooth treated!

284 JohnnyReb  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:54:21am

re: #274 Occasional Reader

They were yakking about this last year also. Some sort of air cavity torpedo. Able to get to about 100kts. Even if it is real (the theory says it can be done) it is not a guided weapon. Just like the WWI and WWII torpedo's, its a point and shoot and hope you aimed right. And I really can't see us letting them sit there and start shooting these things at us.

285 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:54:57am
286 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:55:19am

re: #271 Mars Needs Neocons

I found a photo of the tests.

I got the video.

Weapon Test

287 alegrias  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:55:30am

re: #253 Mars Needs Neocons

I agree, I also think his blatant lies should have been called on. That would have nailed him for perjury too. Of course I'm sure that in order to fight it, we would have had to reveal classified material and that wouldn't have gone either.

* * *
Mercifully Mr. "Unfit For Command" was defrocked in front of the WHOLE WORLD by Dr. Jerome Corsi, author of that tome with John O'Neill the Swiftboat veteran colleague of Kerry's!

288 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:55:33am

re: #271 Mars Needs Neocons

I found a photo of the tests.

Even more terrifying than the hardware (shown in your photo) is the incredibly sophisticated naval battlespace management system the Iranians have developed. This top secret photo was smuggled out recently.

289 slokat  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:56:09am

re: #266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Is it like this one that the showed in 2006? Fajr 27

290 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:56:36am

I know. I said I was leaving. See, this is me leaving.

291 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:56:44am

re: #283 Nevergiveup

I know,i really feel for him.my teeth were a real problem.my dentist took a personal intrest in repairing them.exept for an infection i got last week they have been fine for almost ten years now.(reg.check-ups and cleanings of course)

292 wolfie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:56:49am

re: #273 razorbacker

LOL ! My niece suddenly quit competitive swimming, which she had loved, after that Olympics when the Chinese "women" won all the gold medals. Turns out she was afraid that progress in the sport meant growing hair on her chest!

293 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:57:53am

re: #267 Dianna

I know he was a poor manager of money, but he also had horrible luck.

I didn't know he borrowed from Adams; I didn't think Adams had much money of his own?

Dianna -

Abigail Adams was a shrewd business woman - that is where the wealth came from.

-S-

294 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:58:14am

re: #266 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Here we go again:

Iran tests 'new anti-ship weapon'

It's probably a hand-cranked wood bit poking out of the front of a submarine for drilling holes in wooden ships. (I doubt he knows much about our civil war).

295 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:58:59am

To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them

July 31, 2008 Speaking at the Campus Progress journalism conference earlier this month, Seymour Hersh — a Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist for The New Yorker — revealed that Bush administration officials held a meeting recently in the Vice President’s office to discuss ways to provoke a war with Iran.

296 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 11:59:17am

re: #286 Ford_Prefect

I got the video.

Weapon Test

re: #288 Occasional Reader
re: #288 Occasional Reader


lol

297 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:00:03pm

PA dismisses Hamas-linked officers

The Palestinian Authority has dismissed almost a thousand police and security officers for alleged links with rival group, Hamas.

"Anyone suspected of having stances supporting Hamas or discovered to be a relative, a brother or even a close neighbor of a Hamas activists or senior official has been dismissed," an unnamed senior Palestinian officer told Ynet on Monday.

298 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:00:10pm

re: #210 Dianna

He's 29. Not a kid, but definitely a punk.


he looks 18 or so..29 heh..how effen immature can you get?
/don't answer that Dianna

299 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:00:22pm

re: #293 Dr. Shalit

Dianna -

Abigail Adams was a shrewd business woman - that is where the wealth came from.

-S-

She ran the family farm while he was out fomenting revolution and founding a country.

300 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:00:30pm

re: #245 opnion

The statutes governing treason like any laws can be abused.
But Kerry running over to Paris collaborating with the enemy & Jane Fonda going over to North Vietnam to comfort the enemy, really left no reasonable room for interpretation

The problem with Kerry was that he was on terminal leave but still officially on active duty as a naval officer when he went to Paris and met the North Vietnamese. What Fonda did was reprehensible but probably not legally actionable.

My Code of Conduct lecture at OCS Newport was from a Captain Dick Stratton, a gentleman who was a guest in the Hanoi Hilton. For those who do not know Code of Conduct is what to do when captured, Standards of Conduct is another required talk about what to do when working around a potential object of emotional or sexual involvement. At one point in his talk CAPT Stratton referred to "That whore Jane Fonda" I remembered his lecture.

301 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:00:45pm

re: #294 eschew_obfuscation

i hear that they are also working on an archemedian death ray.(now in beta testing on an ant hill)

302 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:00:52pm
303 Nevergiveup  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:01:18pm
304 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:01:44pm

re: #287 alegrias

* * *
Mercifully Mr. "Unfit For Command" was defrocked in front of the WHOLE WORLD by Dr. Jerome Corsi, author of that tome with John O'Neill the Swiftboat veteran colleague of Kerry's!

alegrias -

Dr. Corsi's "follow-up" book OBAMA NATION came out last Friday - August 1, 2008.

-S-

305 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:01:47pm

re: #294 eschew_obfuscation

It's probably a hand-cranked wood bit poking out of the front of a submarine for drilling holes in wooden ships. (I doubt he knows much about our civil war).

This just in Canada has decided to respond to this most recent Iranian aggression.

306 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:02:37pm

re: #301 Boondock St. Bender

i hear that they are also working on an archemedian death ray.(now in beta testing on an ant hill)

Won't those be kinda hard to get working under water?

307 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:02:45pm

re: #295 Ben Hur

years and millions of dollars worth of training...lets shoot at them!
sounds truthy.fuckin idiot.

308 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:02:46pm

re: #305 Mars Needs Neocons

This just in Canada has decided to respond to this most recent Iranian aggression.

GO CANADA!

/leaving

309 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:03:30pm
310 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:04:01pm

re: #305 Mars Needs Neocons

This just in Canada has decided to respond to this most recent Iranian aggression.

Hey....that's a stronger response than they got from the U.N.!

311 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:04:04pm

re: #295 Ben Hur

To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them

SEALSare among our best, who you gonna' get to shot up a bunch of SEALS with out the SEALS kickin' their asses?

What a maroon.

312 big steve  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:04:14pm

re: #273 razorbacker

re: #273 razorbacker

Those Iron Curtain female athletes scared the bejeebus out of me. And embarrassed me too, since each and every one of them seemed to be able to grow a more luxurious mustache than I.

Did you ever see the skit on In Living Color where Jim Carrey plays an East German Female swimmer. He had a cute bowtie in his hair and a women's bathing suit on with an obvious bulge in the 'package' area. When the interviewer asked him/her what was that in her crotch, he replied "well a girl has got to have some secrets". It was darn funny. Wish I could find a clip of this on You Tube.

313 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:04:21pm

re: #306 eschew_obfuscation

details,...details.....
fred flintstone

314 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:04:29pm

re: #300 lifeofthemind

Actually I'm pretty sure that Fonda could have been busted under the providing aid and comfort clause. It wasn't quite as blatant as Ted Kennedy's actions with the Soviets during Reagans admin, but it was still bad. She provided propaganda opportunities to the NV's which IIRC is blatantly illegal. (As was Mike Al-Moore's "documentary")

315 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:04:32pm

re: #292 wolfie

LOL ! My niece suddenly quit competitive swimming, which she had loved, after that Olympics when the Chinese "women" won all the gold medals. Turns out she was afraid that progress in the sport meant growing hair on her chest!

One of my nieces was for a while fairly competitive in gymnastics. Enough so that the guy who had trained Nadia Comanicia (sp, I'll bet) offered to take her on. She met the guy and worked out with him for a very short time (I was living just outside of Houston at the time so she could stay with us), but something didn't click and she lost interest.

316 Dianna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:05:00pm

re: #293 Dr. Shalit

Thanks.

317 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:06:10pm

re: #311 jcm

SEALSare among our best, who you gonna' get to shot up a bunch of SEALS with out the SEALS kickin' their asses?

What a maroon.

I used to know a guy that had been a SEAL. When asked why he wanted to be a SEAL, he responded that SEAL's got to call Marines p*ssies.

///Leaving!

318 razorbacker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:06:13pm

re: #312 big steve

I do remember that. I'd forgotten where Jim got his start. Guy's come a long way.

319 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:07:45pm

re: #35 Ford_Prefect

Maxima was registered to the passenger.

320 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:08:01pm

re: #295 Ben Hur

To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them

I think someone was just fucking with old Seymour.

321 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:08:14pm
322 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:08:23pm

re: #285 Ben Hur

'Dark menace of the deep sea on the wings of a large bird'

We're doomed.

Mr President we cannot allow ourselves to be caught in a blow-hard gap!

Apologies to Stanley Kubrick of Dr. Strangelove

323 Ford_Prefect  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:08:59pm

re: #319 Cap'n DOC

Maxima was registered to the passenger.

Ford_Prefect has left the building.

/////I'm serious this time!

324 Pyrocles  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:10:52pm

The cameraman was not objective, class. He chose a side! Therefore, he would have FAILED my class! - Columbia Journalism 101 professor

re: #227 Ben Hur

FOX News Cameraman Helps Rescue Injured Marine From Insurgent Blast in Afghanistan

Why do I get the feeling that this will be taught in J-school as the "wrong thing to do."

325 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:12:22pm

re: #324 Pyrocles

of course it was a fox cameraman,they're in on it!
/l3 off

326 Vergeltung  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:13:15pm

re: #312 big steve

re: #273 razorbacker
Did you ever see the skit on In Living Color where Jim Carrey plays an East German Female swimmer. He had a cute bowtie in his hair and a women's bathing suit on with an obvious bulge in the 'package' area. When the interviewer asked him/her what was that in her crotch, he replied "well a girl has got to have some secrets". It was darn funny. Wish I could find a clip of this on You Tube.

that really was such a funny show. all those great skits; Homeboy Shopping Network, Handyman, Hey Mon (the hard working jamaican family), all that stuff. great show.

they could never do it today though....sadly...

327 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:16:13pm

re: #309 Occasional Reader

Seymour Hersh is ready for a rubber room.

No self respecting rubber room would have him.

328 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:17:03pm

Now for the US response. And with better support technology.

329 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:18:31pm

re: #326 Vergeltung

Homeboy Shopping Network

Here you go for all you bad boy home boy sales. He's going to slice the price... in half.

330 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:19:25pm

re: #321 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gaza milk shortage looms.

Let us not forget that hearing aid batteries will now be in short supply as well.

331 alegrias  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:19:43pm

re: #304 Dr. Shalit

alegrias -

Dr. Corsi's "follow-up" book OBAMA NATION came out last Friday - August 1, 2008.

-S-

* * *
Merci Bow Coop!

Yes, I heard Dr. Corsi or his interviewer mention the 700 footnotes~no bad for a celebrity-American with a thin resume~ Oh joy!

"Hope" it "torpedoes" Mr. "Change".

332 beens21  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:20:01pm

re: #113 noshariaincanada

same thing happens to me,mostly when I read a spin-off comment.

333 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:20:22pm

re: #321 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Gaza milk shortage looms.

How can that be? They have all those tunnels for bringing milk in.

334 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:20:32pm

Jim Carey as Vera de Milo.

335 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:22:42pm

re: #333 jcm

they only bring it one quart at a time though....

336 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:24:25pm

re: #335 Boondock St. Bender

they only bring it one quart at a time though....

That's right, I forgot the main stuff is supplies for the metal shops for industrious Palis to make a living!
/

337 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:25:49pm

re: #336 jcm

osha should look into all those "work related accidents" the tango's are having.

338 Pshawalaw  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:26:52pm

re: #21 Nevergiveup

Not to change the subject but:

G-D seriously injured in a Car Accident!

[Link: www.wmctv.com...]

Happened in Mississippi, one of those "red" states which coincide with the slave states; racist highway/

Seriously, hope he comes through okay.

339 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:27:29pm

ohh,closing in on 3000 comments.(although most of them i shoulda'kept to myself!)

340 Iron Fist  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:28:12pm

re: #339 Boondock St. Bender

You are but a babe in the LGF woods!

341 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:28:14pm

re: #339 Boondock St. Bender

ohh,closing in on 3000 comments.(although most of them i shoulda'kept to myself!)

Holy crap, me too!

342 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:28:16pm

re: #338 Pshawalaw

same here i've always enjoyed his work.

343 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:29:03pm

re: #305 Mars Needs Neocons

"MNN"-

Sacre Bleu - That is NOT the TREBUCHET that I remember.

-S-

344 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:29:34pm

re: #340 Iron Fist

damn job keeps getting in the way of my blogging!pesky responsabilities.

345 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:29:59pm

re: #343 Dr. Shalit

"MNN"-

Sacre Bleu - That is NOT the TREBUCHET that I remember.

-S-

LOL, now I understand why the US has never invaded Canada (Mike Al-Moron wet dreams excluded)

346 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:33:18pm

re: #345 Mars Needs Neocons
actually we did invade during the revolution(beat back)
tried during the war of 1812(disaster)
and a bunch of veteran irish soildiers after the civil war invaded canada.(they were gonna hold canada hostage in return for irelands freedom)

347 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:33:25pm

re: #345 Mars Needs Neocons

LOL, now I understand why the US has never invaded Canada (Mike Al-Moron wet dreams excluded)

Bzzt! We did invade Canada - twice. Three times if you count the Fenian Raids.

348 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:34:19pm

re: #347 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

ha,ha beat you to it....but,you provided links.

349 Iron Fist  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:34:43pm

re: #345 Mars Needs Neocons

We almost did! 54-40 or Fight! We wimped out. Wah.

350 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:34:54pm

re: #348 Boondock St. Bender

ha,ha beat you to it....but,you provided links.

It takes time to search Wiki, y'know!

351 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:35:03pm

re: #347 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Bzzt! We did invade Canada - twice. Three times if you count the Fenian Raids.

You are forgetting the major territory conflict of the Pig War!

352 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:35:42pm

HAVE they found poo on the Red Planet?

The excitement has been triggered by a report in the journal Aviation Week that the space agency alerted the White House to "major new Phoenix lander discoveries concerning the 'potential for life' ".

Jon Clarke, a geologist with Mars Society Australia, a group dedicated to Martian exploration, said the report had triggered a frenzy of interest. "Chat groups are all speculating about what it is," Dr Clarke said. "We have had emails flying backwards and forwards. Something is certainly in the breeze."
.....
Asked to speculate yesterday on what it may have now found, Dr Clarke said the instrument was designed, among other things, to spot dissolved ammonium and nitrate salts.

"On Earth, if you have a lot of ammonium and nitrate it usually means there is organic activity. We excrete it as waste and other organisms use it."


Just Poop!

353 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:35:48pm

re: #347 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Bzzt! We did invade Canada - twice. Three times if you count the Fenian Raids.

Yeah, but they didn't have advanced tech like that back then.

354 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:35:59pm

re: #345 Mars Needs Neocons

LOL, now I understand why the US has never invaded Canada (Mike Al-Moron wet dreams excluded)

"MNN" -

Actually, the Trebuchet may have been the first practical bio-weapons delivery system. The Monty Python scene was NO JOKE - the Trebuchet could and did "fire" large, often deceased animals at one's enemies.

-S-

355 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:35:59pm

invasion of canada,aka operation leaf blower!

356 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:37:46pm

A 4 inch tongue can bring a 6 foot man to his knees.

357 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:37:56pm

Unreal CNN take on basic economics-

Lower oil prices: a mixed blessing

They are pimping the idea that lower gas prices have a downside and will somehow deepen the recession we have "so far avoided."

358 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:38:13pm

re: #354 Dr. Shalit

And diseased. That was one way of clearing the city, launching diseased livestock. And trying to contaminate the water supply.

359 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:38:14pm

re: #351 jcm

You are forgetting the major territory conflict of the Pig War!

There was another Pig War (Pig War II?) involving Serbia in the last century.

We'll probably see a real Pig war this century due to the Roper's hatred of pork products.

360 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:38:54pm

re: #356 Ben Hur

can you provide a link? :-)

361 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:40:26pm
362 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:40:50pm

re: #357 karmic_inquisitor

yeah we all know how lower gas prices suck!

363 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:41:53pm

re: #352 Killgore Trout

High volumes of such chemistry in a river could point to effluent run-off from a farm.

Great. So there are already farmers on Mars. As soon as they become aware of us, they'll start demanding subsidies.

364 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:43:59pm

re: #360 Boondock St. Bender

can you provide a link? :-)

[Link: cdn.holytaco.com...]

365 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:44:07pm

re: #363 Occasional Reader

Great. So there are already farmers on Mars. As soon as they become aware of us, they'll start demanding subsidies.

That is how effluent farmers become affluent farmers.

366 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:45:26pm
367 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:45:28pm

re: #364 Ben Hur

very good!somehow my mind pictured something else!lol

368 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:46:11pm

re: #359 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'll see your Pig Wars and raise you a Soccer War.

369 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:48:41pm

Barrel of oil at this momentre: #352 Killgore Trout

Great avatar Killgore...LMAO

370 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:49:15pm

re: #352 Killgore Trout

HAVE they found poo on the Red Planet?


Just Poop!

Mars has now been reclassified from "Class M Planet" to a "Class BM Planet".

371 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:49:47pm

re: #369 jorline

;)

372 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:50:33pm

re: #361 buzzsawmonkey

Please don't tell me if it will be ribbed for his pleasure.

You are a degenerated prevert, sir.

373 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:51:03pm

re: #369 jorline

Barrel of oil at this moment

Great avatar Killgore...LMAO

OH crap...I started a post one hour ago and forgot to send it...LOL

Barrel price at this time is $121.02...down almost $4 on the day.

374 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:51:58pm

re: #373 jorline

OH crap...I started a post one hour ago and forgot to send it...LOL

Barrel price at this time is $121.02...down almost $4 on the day.


you see? The Obamassaiah has *already* got the price of Crude down !

375 Iron Fist  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:53:19pm

re: #374 noshariaincanada

Actually, I was going to point out that just talking about drilling has the price moving down. It has nothing to do with the Obamessiah's unicorn farts.

376 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:54:06pm

re: #374 noshariaincanada

you see? The Obamassaiah has *already* got the price of Crude down !

LOL...my ass. The barrel price is down over $35 since Bush said DRILL.

Gas is $3.59 a gallon here.

377 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:54:12pm
378 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:55:02pm

re: #375 Iron Fist

Actually, I was going to point out that just talking about drilling has the price moving down. It has nothing to do with the Obamessiah's unicorn farts.

"Fist" -

At least Sen. Obama is farting in the right direction - at least for this week.

-S-

379 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:56:18pm

re: #375 Iron Fist

Actually, I was going to point out that just talking about drilling has the price moving down. It has nothing to do with the Obamessiah's unicorn farts.

right on, but i forgot is he *for* drilling or *against* ?

/head spins

380 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 12:56:28pm

re: #368 Occasional Reader

I'll see your Pig Wars and raise you a Soccer War.

Almost as dumb a name for a war as Jenkin's Ear.

381 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:03:47pm

Obama eats here.

Which explains why he flips more than a fish out of water.

382 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:07:07pm

re: #380 lifeofthemind

Almost as dumb a name for a war as Jenkin's Ear.


I see your War of Jenkin's Ear & raise you a Pastry War - of course it had to involve the French!

383 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:13:43pm

re: #379 noshariaincanada

right on, but i forgot is he *for* drilling or *against* ?

/head spins


He was for being against it before he was against being for it.

Obama, half the time from the Great McGinty and half the time from Yes Minister.

384 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:18:03pm

re: #382 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I see your War of Jenkin's Ear & raise you a Pastry War - of course it had to involve the French!

Excellent, a war that tastes great and is less filling. It doesn't mention if the French ever got a Peso or just promises.

385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:19:34pm

These "fact base" attacks are not fair!

/

386 RickZ  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:20:53pm

re: #253 Mars Needs Neocons

I agree, I also think his blatant lies should have been called on. That would have nailed him for perjury too. Of course I'm sure that in order to fight it, we would have had to reveal classified material and that wouldn't have gone either.

What perjury? Kerry didn't give sworn testimony in the Winter Soldier Hearings before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

387 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:21:53pm

Fruits of Evil

IT BEGAN with a mango three years ago. A member of Gaza's powerful Masri clan had stopped to buy fruit at a roadside stall in 2005, but the vendor did not have enough small change to break his 20 shekel note - equal to $5.

The Masri man pulled a gun and killed the vendor, who was a member of the Abu Taha clan.

By the end of last year, the ensuing feud had claimed the lives of 29 people - 10 from neither clan. Sixty had been wounded and homes and businesses on both sides had been torched.

"We want to kill one more to be equal," a member of the Abu Taha clan told a researcher for International Crisis Group. But then the toll moved to 10 Abu Taha and 11 Masris dead - and the Masris vowed revenge.

388 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:22:00pm

re: #386 RickZ

What perjury? Kerry didn't give sworn testimony in the Winter Soldier Hearings before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Crap, I think you're right.

389 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:22:07pm

re: #386 RickZ

? What was it he did, then?

390 Iron Fist  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:24:20pm

re: #387 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That's haute couture in Gazastan. They kill each other when they don't have Jews or Christians available.

391 johnnyreb  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:25:18pm

re: #354 Dr. Shalit

"MNN" -

Actually, the Trebuchet may have been the first practical bio-weapons delivery system. The Monty Python scene was NO JOKE - the Trebuchet could and did "fire" large, often deceased animals at one's enemies.

-S-

Which the targeted people/town would try and immediately burn to stop the spread of disease.

392 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:25:21pm

re: #390 Iron Fist

Just a culture of murder.

Sigh.

393 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:25:30pm

re: #379 noshariaincanada

right on, but i forgot is he *for* drilling or *against* ?

/head spins

He is against. Today.

394 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:26:15pm

re: #385 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

These "fact base" attacks are not fair!

/

Yes - it is clearly a form of racism.

395 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:26:29pm

re: #356 Ben Hur

A 4 inch tongue can bring a 6 foot man to his knees.

Yes.

Yes it can. ;)

396 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:27:26pm

re: #356 Ben Hur

A 4 inch tongue can bring a 6 foot man to his knees.

The ladies seem to enjoy it as well.

397 just another four-letter word  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:27:30pm

re: #284 JohnnyReb

They were yakking about this last year also. Some sort of air cavity torpedo. Able to get to about 100kts. Even if it is real (the theory says it can be done) it is not a guided weapon. Just like the WWI and WWII torpedo's, its a point and shoot and hope you aimed right. And I really can't see us letting them sit there and start shooting these things at us.

Not very effective unless/until the "turning problem" is solved. When the torpedo tries to turn, the hypercavitation (the ensonified zone around the torpedo) is lost on one side and friction slows it down again. Great for shooting in a straight line, but you'd have to be shootin' 'em in the lips to be halfway effective.

Still, somebody will solve the problem. Then some jerkwad will sell it to the Russians/Chinese and Iran will get their hands on it, and...

JAFLW

398 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:27:36pm

re: #387 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Strange Fruit indeed. If the Americans and the Europeans explicitly stated that as long as this behavior is tolerated we will treat any person from that place as if they were carrying a communicable disease and bar them from entry it might get through to them.

399 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:28:06pm

I'd be very happy to see a new thread right about now...

400 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:28:54pm
401 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:29:11pm

re: #400 buzzsawmonkey

I just noticed one sticking out of the shoulder of my sport coat, but you can't have it.

402 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:29:56pm

re: #400 buzzsawmonkey

I just noticed one sticking out of the shoulder of my sport coat, but you can't have it.


My "< /snip/ >" got "eaten"

403 Taqyia2Me  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:30:16pm

re: #375 Iron Fist

Actually, I was going to point out that just talking about drilling has the price moving down. It has nothing to do with the Obamessiah's unicorn farts.

Unicorn farts smell like roses, you know...

404 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:30:17pm

re: #35 Ford_Prefect

Was a friends car, BTW...

Hope he's okay. He prolly has four or twelve movies in production right now. All gonna have to wait for him. Guy does more movies than William H. Macy.

Thought he made a really good fake president in "Deep Impact."

405 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:30:22pm

Palestinian Brothers in Gaza Illegally Donate to Obama $29K

JERUSALEM, Aug 04, 2008 /PRNewswire-USNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Palestinian brothers inside the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip are listed in government election filings as having donated $29,521.54 to Sen. Barack Obama's campaign, according to WorldNetDaily's Jerusalem bureau chief, Aaron Klein.

The donations would violate election laws, including prohibitions on receiving donations from foreigners and guidelines against accepting more than $2,300 from one individual during a single election, Bob Biersack, a spokesman for the Federal Election Commission, said in response to a query.

The contributions also raise numerous questions about the Obama campaign's lax online donation form, which apparently allows for the possibility of foreign contributions.

406 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:31:03pm

re: #403 Taqyia2Me

Unicorn farts smell like roses, you know...

and hope.

407 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:31:36pm

re: #406 Mars Needs Neocons

and hope.

I thought hope smelled like BO?

408 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:31:58pm

re: #405 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Palestinian Brothers in Gaza Illegally Donate to Obama $29K

Gee weren't we just discussing this last month? Something about phone banks all over the middle east, stolen credit cards, and a lame donation program?

409 Mars Needs Neocons  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:32:14pm

re: #407 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I thought hope smelled like BO?

Yep.

410 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:32:45pm

re: #406 Mars Needs Neocons

and hope.

what roses have *you* been smelling?

411 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:32:59pm
412 just another four-letter word  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:33:28pm

re: #309 Occasional Reader

Seymour Hersh is ready for a rubber room.

Betcha even money Seymour Hersch broke out of the rubber room - at least, temporarily...

JAFLW

413 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:33:28pm

re: #400 buzzsawmonkey

pulls thread,sleave falls off

414 RickZ  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:33:53pm

re: #389 Cap'n DOC

? What was it he did, then?

Kerry lied his ass off, but it wasn't perjury.

415 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:34:43pm

Charlie bit me.

416 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:35:06pm

re: #408 Mars Needs Neocons

Wow. Dingy-up for that one.

417 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:35:15pm

re: #405 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


Edwan could not explain how he managed to get shipments of T-shirts into the Gaza Strip during the months he claimed to have purchased the merchandise, since Israel imposed a tight closure of the Gaza Strip starting in June 2007 that lasted until June 2008.

They disguised the t-shirts in milk jugs.

418 johnnyreb  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:35:19pm

re: #397 just another four-letter word

Not very effective unless/until the "turning problem" is solved. When the torpedo tries to turn, the hypercavitation (the ensonified zone around the torpedo) is lost on one side and friction slows it down again. Great for shooting in a straight line, but you'd have to be shootin' 'em in the lips to be halfway effective.

Still, somebody will solve the problem. Then some jerkwad will sell it to the Russians/Chinese and Iran will get their hands on it, and...

JAFLW

Also there is the start up period. Apparently it takes some time to get the weapon up to speed because the air injection takes time to build up the cavity in front of it, and it is extremely noisy at that point. Pretty much saying at the weapons launch that you have just been targeted and if you take evasive action now, it will miss. A simple emergency reverse with left or right rudder and it most likely miss you. Janes had some articles on it a few years or so ago and implied it would be another 5-10 years before it would be practical.

419 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:36:34pm

re: #399 noshariaincanada

I'd be very happy to see a new thread right about now...


Drumroll...................time for ID thread.

420 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:36:58pm

re: #417 karmic_inquisitor

They disguised the t-shirts in milk jugs.

It's the old T-shirt in the milk jug gag.

421 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:37:50pm

re: #419 kansas

Drumroll...................time for ID thread.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

422 Iron Fist  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:39:19pm

re: #419 kansas

You don't expect an ID thread to just be created for you, do you? It has to evolve over millions of years...

423 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:39:53pm

re: #422 Iron Fist

You don't expect an ID thread to just be created for you, do you? It has to evolve over millions of years...


That would be my preferred time frame.

424 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:40:14pm

re: #414 RickZ

Well, it couldn't have been since he took no oath I'm aware of. That makes him a cheap rather than expensive liar.

425 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:41:22pm

re: #423 kansas

That would be my preferred time frame.

such heresy is almost reason enough to lose posting privileges. I "speak" from experience.

426 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:42:14pm

What would it take for the MSM to drop its infatuation with Obama?

427 Pyrocles  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:43:38pm

For Obama to become a Republican?

re: #426 godfrey

What would it take for the MSM to drop its infatuation with Obama?

428 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:43:40pm
429 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:43:51pm

re: #426 godfrey

dead woman/live boy...you know the drill.

430 CIA Reject  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:43:51pm

re: #426 godfrey

What would it take for the MSM to drop its infatuation with Obama?

Oprah running for President.

431 just another four-letter word  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 1:45:49pm

re: #375 Iron Fist

Actually, I was going to point out that just talking about drilling has the price moving down. It has nothing to do with the Obamessiah's unicorn farts.

I remember the '74 gas lines well. NOT a fond memory, BTW.

What I also remember, and scream it at all the moonbaticus every chance I get is that as soon as we start