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Sometimes a Tower is Just a Column

Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:44:00 pm PDT

New York Times columnist Bob Herbert is seeing racist phallic symbols in John McCain’s campaign ads: Obamania Has Herbert Hallucinating. Beyond parody.

Herbert says the McCain “Celeb” ad shows two phallic pieces of architecture: the Leaning Tower of Pisa, and the Washington Monument.

But he didn’t even get that right. Both of the clips in that McCain advertisement show the same building: the Victory Column in Berlin.

Oops.

UPDATE at 8/4/08 3:16:00 pm:

Also see:
Hot Air » Bob Herbert: Why is everyone missing the phallic symbols in McCain’s Britney ad?

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1 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:45:58pm

And these are the same people who want us to believe they're more worldly.

2 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:46:49pm

Maybe the tingle was preventing blood flow to the brain.

3 OldLineTexan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:47:17pm

Now that is sad.

Makes tingly legs seem mild.

4 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:47:19pm

I'm thinking: maybe Bob needs to get laid.

Just trying to help out here.

5 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:47:39pm

These are the people who want us to believe that they are more intelligent.

6 MandyManners  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:47:42pm

Brittney Spears is sexually provocative?!

7 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:47:49pm

Sometimes a column is just a column.

/paraphrasing Freud.

8 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:48:04pm

re: #4 Occasional Reader

I'm thinking: maybe Bob needs to get laid.

Just trying to help out here.

You guys - always with the same solution.

9 OldLineTexan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:48:14pm

re: #4 Occasional Reader

I'm thinking: maybe Bob needs to get laid.

Just trying to help out here.

Up Your Alley is over, sadly.

10 zombie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:48:28pm

I have a scholarly book somewhere around here written by a professor, with a title like, "Why America is Afraid of the Black Penis." This theme is actually pretty common in academia -- it's a whole field of study. No surprise the NYT would run with it.

11 JohnnyReb  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:48:29pm

The media needs to just get some cheap VA drugs like I get and take it ok? Maybe then they will calm down and actually report some news instead of Obama is being picked on because he is black.

12 MandyManners  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:48:42pm

Moonbats see a Rove behind every bush.

13 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:49:11pm

I thing Herbert inner desires are showing.

14 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:49:27pm

So the Leaning Tower of Pisa is a phallic symbol now? Isn't it more like an erectile dysfunction symbol?

15 JohnnyReb  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:49:37pm

re: #6 MandyManners

Brittney Spears is sexually provocative?!


Brittany who?

16 livefreeor die  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:49:45pm

The Stuck on Stupid award for the day goes to...

17 MandyManners  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:49:59pm

Bob Herbert is a blithering idiot.

18 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:50:04pm

Of course, Pat Buchanan was too stupid to answer the question...

19 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:50:44pm

"Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad"
-Euripides

20 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:50:47pm

I think it's funny- go ahead, keep pushing the meme that this ad is racist. The only thing achieved by it is making people curious to see the ad, where they will 1) see it's not racist and 2) see obama's energy policy.

21 OldLineTexan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:50:51pm

re: #17 MandyManners

Bob Herbert is a blithering idiot.

Let's arrange a cage match between him and "Cracker Bob" Beckel.

/the Bobs are getting out of hand lately

22 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:51:15pm
23 OldLineTexan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:51:18pm

re: #18 wrenchwench

Of course, Pat Buchanan was too stupid to answer the question...

The ballot was unclear.

24 wiffersnapper  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:51:22pm

dee dee dee!

25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:51:27pm

re: #6 MandyManners

Brittney Spears is sexually provocative?!

She had her moments.

26 livefreeor die  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:51:45pm

re: #22 buzzsawmonkey

His knowledge of the Monuments of the World--and Obama's itinerary--is clearly on a par with Obama's fluency in foreign tongues.

I guess he's on the short list for Secretary of State in an Obama world?

27 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:52:08pm

I bet Bob sports a pup-tent in his shorts while singing along with the Viva Viagra commercials.

28 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:52:45pm

i nearly fell over when I heard bob herbert wrote that.

"Liberal Intelligencia," (a registered oxymoron) the gift that keeps on giving.

29 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:53:01pm

re: #6 MandyManners

Brittney Spears is sexually provocative?!


I guess my "no panties because public utilities must be open for inspection" joke is wearing a little thin by now.

30 OrzBorz  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:53:04pm

Another feather in its cap for the NYT.

31 P. Aaron  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:53:31pm

These guys are paid how much to do this sort of thing?

It may make for interesting television, or an even more interesting psycho-analysis session.

You can't spell analysis without: a-n-a-l.

32 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:54:15pm

Wow, two phallic threads in a row.

33 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:54:30pm

The dinosaur media were already headed for instinction, but this campaign is a blazing asteroid in the sky.

34 sngnsgt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:54:41pm

re: #17 MandyManners

Bob Herbert is a blithering idiot.

Hey Bob, say "blither" 3 times...

Bob: Blitler, blither, blither...

What does that make Bob?

A blithering idiot.

35 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:54:45pm

Inscribed on the base of the giant penile column:

My name is Obamandias, king of kings
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

36 tommygum  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:54:59pm

Bob Beckel was just on Sean's radio show. I think he's back on the sauce.

37 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:55:36pm

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

Wow, two phallic threads in a row.

LOL...I know...this will be the shortest Open Thread in LGF history.

38 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:56:08pm

re: #6 MandyManners

Brittney Spears is sexually provocative?!

Well, she used to be, before she completely lost her mind.

/not to me, though

39 jemima  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:56:14pm

Herbert is thinking of this--the 30' Sky Pillar at Longwan Shaman Amusement Park in Changchun city. (Probably NSFW)

[Link: www.weirdasianews.com...]

40 MandyManners  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:56:37pm

bbl

41 BGB!  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:56:38pm

Phallic of Oppression?

42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:57:00pm

re: #37 jorline

LOL...I know...this will be the shortest Open Thread in LGF history.

Its not the size of the thread, its what you do with it.

At least thats what people with small threads claim.

43 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:57:44pm

Wish McCain, or Bush, would respond to a question about the Times by just saying

Don't know, don't read it. Does anybody anymore? Sad, so sad.

Then just walk away shaking his head.

44 jorline  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:58:00pm

re: #42 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its not the size of the thread, its what you do with it.

At least thats what people with small threads claim.

LMAO...ding

45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:58:20pm

re: #39 jemima

Herbert is thinking of this--the 30' Sky Pillar at Longwan Shaman Amusement Park in Changchun city. (Probably NSFW)

[Link: www.weirdasianews.com...]

You almost had me google "Giant Penis Tower" till I thought of what that might bring back as search results.

46 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:58:36pm
47 mossley  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:58:56pm

Never let those pesky facts get in the way of a good smear attempt. Obama needs all the protection the MSM can provide!

48 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:59:00pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You almost had me google "Giant Penis Tower" till I thought of what that might bring back as search results.

I have a vague feeling it would be something in San Francisco.

49 CofactorMatrix  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:59:10pm

Haah haah. What a retard. Typical liberal: deluded by the smallness of his intellect, as usual.

50 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:59:13pm

So, Obama was holding a premature victory speech next to a phallic symbol.

Hmm.

51 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 2:59:40pm

I think karmic_inquisitor's find belongs in this thread:

"Andy Warhol said we all get our 15 minutes of fame," says Barack Obama. "I've already had an hour and a half. I mean, I'm so overexposed, I'm making Paris Hilton look like a recluse."
52 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:00:44pm

re: #39 jemima

Herbert is thinking of this--the 30' Sky Pillar at Longwan Shaman Amusement Park in Changchun city. (Probably NSFW)

[Link: www.weirdasianews.com...]

Giant Penis Tower

53 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:01:48pm

It is my sincere hope that a palace coup at the NYT tosses out Pinch and Rich and Herbert and the rest of that crowd and allow the paper to get back on track.

54 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:02:11pm

So what happens if Obama gives his next speech at Beaver Stadium?

55 tommygum  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:02:26pm

re: #39 jemima

Herbert is thinking of this--the 30' Sky Pillar at Longwan Shaman Amusement Park in Changchun city. (Probably NSFW)

[Link: www.weirdasianews.com...]

This is what Herbert thinks of when he listens to Mr. Hope & Change.

56 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:02:39pm

re: #39 jemima

Herbert is thinking of this--the 30' Sky Pillar at Longwan Shaman Amusement Park in Changchun city. (Probably NSFW)

[Link: www.weirdasianews.com...]

How do you ride that?

57 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:02:40pm

Think Obama's campaign peaked to soon?

58 livefreeor die  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:02:44pm

So, is it racist or sexist if McCain puts a tunnel in his next ad?

59 tommygum  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:04:06pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You almost had me google "Giant Penis Tower" till I thought of what that might bring back as search results.

A Zombie photo essay?

60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:04:55pm

re: #53 lifeofthemind

It is my sincere hope that a palace coup at the NYT tosses out Pinch and Rich and Herbert and the rest of that crowd and allow the paper to get back on track.

I'll keep hoping for a busload of Israeli Swimsuit models to breakdown in front of my apartment and me having to let them spend the night.

I think the odds are in my favor.

61 DaMishMan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:06:01pm

The march of the morons continues.

62 DeafDog  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:06:04pm

re: #53 lifeofthemind

It wont be a palace coup, but a Rupert Murdoch type would have to buy the comapny.

63 tommygum  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:06:16pm

re: #50 Occasional Reader

So, Obama was holding a premature victory speech next to a phallic symbol.

Hmm.

His campaign's already reached its climax.

64 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:06:56pm

Hot dogs chasing donuts through the Lincoln Tunnel - Robert Klein

65 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:07:05pm

re: #63 tommygum

His campaign's already reached its climax.

We'll get to see his O face.

66 mikalm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:07:26pm

re: #48 Honorary Yooper

Well, SF does have The Coit Tower as its second-most-famous landmark. Local rumor has it that heiress/fireman-groupie Lillian Coit -- the Paris Hilton of 19th Century San Fran -- had it designed to resemble both a fire nozzle, and the....appendage of her favorite Engine #9 firefighter. (Too, the word "Coit" presents intriguing possibilities....)

Am I getting as bad as Bob Herbert here? :-)

67 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:07:58pm

re: #50 Occasional Reader

So, Obama was holding a premature victory speech next to a phallic symbol.

Hmm.

We've been suffering for longer than 4 hours...
Who do we call?

68 DeafDog  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:08:32pm

re: #57 lifeofthemind


HRC gained traction when she launced the "it's 3am ad. She went negative too late. Mac is not making that mistake. Go negative early and often.

BTW - the dems have been going negative since the get go. There entire campaign is based against GWB.

69 jemima  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:08:32pm

#59

San Fran Nan's constituents are SO jealous!

70 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:08:33pm

re: #60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'll keep hoping for a busload of Israeli Swimsuit models to breakdown in front of my apartment and me having to let them spend the night.

I think the odds are in my favor.

Five bucks if we swap dreams.

71 JSK1121  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:08:46pm

Maybe this was McCain's attempt to convince Barry that he'd have a better shot of winning if his wife were ANYONE but Michelle. Even scraping the bottom of the Hollywood barrel for Hilton or Spears would provide fewer embarrassing soundbites to hurt the Obamessiah.

72 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:09:17pm

re: #67 jcm

We've been suffering for longer than 4 hours...
Who do we call?

No, that's a different problem: Electile Dysfunction. I'm talking about premature inauguration.

73 tommygum  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:09:20pm

re: #58 livefreeor die

So, is it racist or sexist if McCain puts a tunnel in his next ad?

He already has, in a manner of speaking.

74 LeePro  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:09:23pm

re: #6 MandyManners

Brittney Spears is sexually provocative?!

re: #38 Ward Cleaver

Well, she used to be, before she completely lost her mind.

/not to me, though

Since when does having a mind have anything to do with Brittney Spears?

75 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:09:41pm

re: #67 jcm

We've been suffering for longer than 4 hours...
Who do we call?

Any time I hear that voice over in those ads, my first thought is that I'm calling every woman I have ever known... to hell with the doctor.

76 DaMishMan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:09:51pm

re: #66 mikalm

Well, SF does have The Coit Tower as its second-most-famous landmark. Local rumor has it that heiress/fireman-groupie Lillian Coit -- the Paris Hilton of 19th Century San Fran -- had it designed to resemble both a fire nozzle, and the....appendage of her favorite Engine #9 firefighter. (Too, the word "Coit" presents intriguing possibilities....)

Am I getting as bad as Bob Herbert here? :-)

No...that is San Francisco. There, it makes perfect sense.

77 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:10:13pm

re: #66 mikalm

Well, SF does have The Coit Tower as its second-most-famous landmark. Local rumor has it that heiress/fireman-groupie Lillian Coit -- the Paris Hilton of 19th Century San Fran -- had it designed to resemble both a fire nozzle, and the....appendage of her favorite Engine #9 firefighter. (Too, the word "Coit" presents intriguing possibilities....)

Am I getting as bad as Bob Herbert here? :-)

The 39-Coit bus has possiblities, who is riding on it and who does BHO prefer be under it.

78 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:10:13pm
79 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:10:36pm

Dwarf Rapes Nun; Flees in Ufo/a Novel of Journalism

This is where the NYT is headed.

80 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:11:19pm

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel

"Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad"
-Euripides

Would the deity or deities who are working over Barbara Streisand please finish the job?

81 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:11:23pm

and it's not just bob herbert who is asleep at the wheel.

the editor who let that through was just hired by the NYT. he formerly worked for the persian news network (PNN) and was the guy who photoshopped the iranian projectiles a few weeks ago.

pinch loved his resume ...

/

82 tommygum  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:11:32pm

re: #67 jcm

We've been suffering for longer than 4 hours...
Who do we call?

All your friends, and brag.

83 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:12:09pm

re: #8 debutaunt

re: #4 Occasional Reader
I'm thinking: maybe Bob needs to get laid.

You guys - always with the same solution.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

84 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:12:25pm

I think Herbert's article tells us more about Bob Herbert than it does about McCain's campaign tactics.

85 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:12:32pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

No, that's a different problem: Electile Dysfunction. I'm talking about premature inauguration.

My bad, I keep getting my dysfunctions mixed up. The ICD-9 doesn't begin to cover DC.

86 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:12:53pm

re: #4 Occasional Reader

I'm thinking: maybe Bob needs to get laid.

Just trying to help out here.

Send him a link to Zombie's recent photo essay.

87 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:12:55pm

re: #12 MandyManners

Moonbats see a Rove behind every bush.

Make up your mind - a bush is the opposite of a phallic symbol.

88 HBob  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:13:01pm

Looks more like the Leaning Tower of Mainstream Journalism to me. Truly pathetic that this dumb ass has a job that doesn't require a hairnet.

89 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:13:04pm

Obviously, Hebert is a Putz!
Good afternoon everyone.

90 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:13:15pm

It has become very clear that the scholarship thresholds in our J Schools.
This mans assertion is ludicrous on it face. Your average 12 year old would not have taken a sexual meaning & they see sex in pretty much everything.
That same 12 year old would know what the Washington Monument & the Eiffel tower look like.
The NY Times & others employ sub- standard intellects & try to palm them off as sophisticated deep thinkers.

91 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:13:47pm

re: #67 jcm

We've been suffering for longer than 4 hours...
Who do we call?

/penthouse.. forget the doctors

92 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:13:50pm

re: #20 Sharmuta

I think it's funny- go ahead, keep pushing the meme that this ad is racist. The only thing achieved by it is making people curious to see the ad, where they will 1) see it's not racist and 2) see obama's energy policy.

3) expose the idiocy of the "all attacks on Obama are racist" crowd.

93 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:13:55pm

re: #89 CapeCoddah

Obviously, Hebert is a Putz!
Good afternoon everyone.

Nah!
A wanker!

94 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:14:31pm

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Any time I hear that voice over in those ads, my first thought is that I'm calling every woman I have ever known... to hell with the doctor.

Everyone does know I hope that the 4 hour line did not come from the physicians. The lawyers said they needed something to cover liability and the marketing guys thought this was the best they could get away with. After the first product introduced it all the others fell in line with the 4 hour line, because it was the key to the whole ad and viagra® couldn't claim it as intellectual property.

95 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:14:32pm

Funny...

Herbert's NYT page is HTTP 500 ville.

[Link: topics.nytimes.com...]

96 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:14:56pm

re: #38 Ward Cleaver

Well, she used to be, before she completely lost her mind.

/not to me, though

Never stick your dick in the crazy.

/like I should talk

97 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:15:21pm

re: #94 lifeofthemind

Everyone does know I hope that the 4 hour line did not come from the physicians. The lawyers said they needed something to cover liability and the marketing guys thought this was the best they could get away with. After the first product introduced it all the others fell in line with the 4 hour line, because it was the key to the whole ad and viagra® couldn't claim it as intellectual property.

I don't care, I'm still calling all the woman :)

98 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:15:44pm

So what does Bob Herbert think of those same pieces of architecture when they appear in Obama's own PR photos?

99 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:16:23pm

re: #93 jcm
I will meet you halfway, a wanker-putz?
The new journalistic prize awarded weekly to a NYT employee.

100 BlueCanuck  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:16:28pm

Well have fun with the thread folks. See you all on the late night dead thread.

/and play safe. ;)

101 mikalm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:17:33pm

re: #76 DaMishMan

Yup. It's been a wild town since the day Sam Brannan went running through the streets screaming about gold in the American River. They didn't have anything like Dore Alley or the Folsom Fair back in olden times, but from the Gold Rush to the Earthquake, a huge portion of the city was utterly vice-ridden, totally corrupt and extremely dangerous (at one point, the city of 40,000 was averaging two murders a day -- the equivalent of 40 a day today.)

An eye-opening account of that era in the City by the Bay is Herbert Asbury's The Barbary Coast. It'll definitely disabuse you of any romantic notions about the City ever being a haven of normality or straitlaced morals.

102 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:18:00pm
103 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:18:01pm

re: #84 Ringo the Gringo

I think Herbert's article tells us more about Bob Herbert than it does about McCain's campaign tactics.

If it's evil to erect your campaign around a phallic symbol, shouldn't someone be dinging Obama for choosing to deliver the speech there in the first place?* Was he playing the race card by saying, "Hey, look at the size of my tower"?

*That's right, we did, but for a justifiable reason, i.e. the connection to Hitler exposing Obama's history blindness.

104 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:18:12pm

re: #96 JamesTKirk

GREAT TIMING!
Where the hell were ya in 1994!
Coulda saved me many thousands off$$$!
LOL

105 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:18:19pm

re: #16 livefreeor die

The Stuck on Stupid award for the day goes to...

We have a local radio talk show host who loves to point out that "You can't fix stupid"

106 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:18:26pm

I salute Bob Herbert's paranoia with my towering middle finger.

107 Pullus Iulius  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:19:01pm

As Sigmund Freud said, "Sometimes a cigar is just...an artichoke. Or something."
/At least according to Bob Herbert

108 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:19:29pm

re: #84 Ringo the Gringo

I think Herbert's article tells us more about Bob Herbert than it does about McCain's campaign tactics.

Boy, I'll say! This is from that August 2nd NYT oped:

Both ads were foul, poisonous and emanated from the upper reaches of the Republican Party. (What a surprise.) Both were designed to exploit the hostility, anxiety and resentment of the many white Americans who are still freakishly hung up on the idea of black men rising above their station and becoming sexually involved with white women.

The racial fantasy factor in this presidential campaign is out of control. It was at work in that New Yorker cover that caused such a stir. (Mr. Obama in Muslim garb with the American flag burning in the fireplace.) It’s driving the idea that Barack Obama is somehow presumptuous, too arrogant, too big for his britches — a man who obviously does not know his place.

I don't get how that's a racist sexual fantasy, but then I'm not Bob Herbert.

109 maddogg  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:19:46pm

Herbert sees whangers everywhere, this guy looks into a black hole and sees racism. Doesn't that defy physics?

110 Thanos  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:20:06pm

This goes beyond lunacy. The MSM is bewitched.

111 Wyatt Earp  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:20:09pm

Obama's poll numbers - heh, heh, "pole" - are bigger than McCain's, but as McCain is want to say, "Size doesn't matter."

112 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:20:48pm

Herbert wouldn't know a phallic symbol if it crawled up his...well, maybe then he would...

113 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:21:00pm
114 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:21:01pm

re: #104 reloadingisnotahobby

GREAT TIMING!
Where the hell were ya in 1994!
Coulda saved me many thousands off$$$!
LOL

They say you should never sleep with anyone who's crazier than you are.

You'd think I'd have trouble even finding women who are crazier than I am, but I manage. I manage.

/"But not my wife," he adds, in case she wanders by and reads over his shoulder... ;)

115 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:21:07pm

re: #68 DeafDog

HRC gained traction when she launced the "it's 3am ad. She went negative too late. Mac is not making that mistake. Go negative early and often.

BTW - the dems have been going negative since the get go. There entire campaign is based against GWB.

And the interesting thing would be seeing the thought process in the voting booth for them... Hey! Bush isn't on the ballot and Obama is a scary lying untrustworthy twit... McCain-click...

116 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:21:26pm

re: #105 CapeCoddah

We have a local radio talk show host who loves to point out that "You can't fix stupid"

"Ignorance is curable, stupidity is forever."

117 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:21:35pm

re: #98 WayDownSouthInBama

So what does Bob Herbert think of those same pieces of architecture when they appear in Obama's own PR photos?

Probably tingly thoughts...

118 DaMishMan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:22:05pm

re: #101 mikalm

I haven't had any romantic notions of that city. I'm almost 42 and for as long as I can remember, that city has been a cesspool. It fills me with great sadness that so beautiful a place can be so filthy at the same time.

119 RickZ  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:22:12pm

Bob Herbert sounds like the kind of guy with whom I would not like to sit down and have dinner, or even a drink. Whatta maroon.

120 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:22:28pm

re: #114 JamesTKirk

Snigger.........Gotcha!
LOL
Not my present bride either!

121 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:23:14pm

Journalism at its finest....
Obama's crime? Acting too presidential

"There's an interesting line building on Obama that somehow success and intelligence are a handicap," said Mark Sawyer, a UCLA political scientist. "If he wasn't extraordinary, he wouldn't be there. But then he is extraordinary and it becomes, 'He is just too good, too well spoken, too accomplished.' "

122 Quintus_Arius  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:23:28pm

I have a humble blog, that rarely draws any comments. Some here have read the second-party editorials I frequently post. Then out of the blue, I get this. I thought it would good for a chuckle here at LGF.

Blogger Truth First said...

The white man is fond of technology. He is souless and disconnected from the Earth so the white feels a constant need to use technology to rape the Earth or abuse nature. We see this in the form of the white man's factories of pollution, global warming or in the Katrina attack on New Orleans in 2005.

Look at the space shuttle. It is nothing more than a giant white phallus sent to orbit the Earth as a hostile errection threatening rape

123 Josephine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:23:32pm

Life must be pretty good for the average black person in America if an idiotic journalist has to invent "racism" like this.

My husband says there will be major riots if Obama loses the election. I say, better to have riots than have Obama in the White House.

124 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:23:34pm

Mr. Herbert is a n idiot. He has joined Senator Obama as another post turtle. His kind of reasoning is far below that of a reasonably sentiment human being.

125 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:23:54pm

So... am I going out o limb to say "this guy seems like just another twit who doesn't realize he'll be fact checked and ridiculed within moments of publication these days", and all?

JATWFRHBFCaRWMoPTD...

126 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:24:25pm

re: #122 Quintus_Arius

Luddites are so silly.

127 Thanos  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:24:35pm

On talk of the town on NPR they spent a lot of time on "charisma" comparing Obama's "new" charisma to the Clinton's and Reagan's old charisma. A caller made a secretariat reference. They are all about image not substance.

128 Killian Bundy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:25:26pm

Man calls 911 after Subway left sauce off sandwich

Jacksonville police say Reginald Peterson needs to learn that 911 is not the appropriate place to complain that Subway left the sauce off a spicy Italian sandwich.

Police said the 42-year-old man dialed 911 twice last week so he could have his sub made correctly. The second call was to complain that officers weren't arriving fast enough.

/typical Obama voter, reliant on the government, can't fend for himself

129 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:25:29pm

Bet Herbert is a warmist.

130 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:25:55pm
131 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:26:06pm

re: #123 Josephine

A little rioting....no problem!
Never happen in my local!
But I am for hire for riot control!;-)

132 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:26:11pm

re: #122 Quintus_Arius

bookmarked you

133 RememberSekhmet?  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:26:19pm

Hey Zombie!

Think Bob Herbert can find a phallic symbol or 2 or 500 in the SF area? So why would the Republicans have to leave the country to get footage of a phallic symbol and Obama?

I was cackling at work. Good thing I didn't have a caller at the time.

134 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:27:07pm

If I invite Hebert to a picnic but I'm niggardly with the food, and I show him how I mirror my master and slave hard drives, on my tower pc in a midnight black case and black light illumination with a blackhole screen saver, brag my company is in the black and I can afford to hire Blackwater security.

What does that make me?

135 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:27:23pm

re: #98 WayDownSouthInBama

So what does Bob Herbert think of those same pieces of architecture when they appear in Obama's own PR photos?

Had to have been photoshopped, of course.

136 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:27:52pm

re: #116 JamesTKirk
You can say that again, and that is exactly what the talk show host means, he is a reformed liberal, but a 40's 50's and 60's democrat.
He fled from the dark side during the 70's

137 Mr Spiffy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:27:56pm

re: #46 buzzsawmonkey

It seems that there exists a batch
Of guys who get an itch to scratch
If ever they should chance to catch
A glimpse of shaven pop-tart snatch.

only one up-ding per customer, darn it

138 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:27:57pm

re: #128 Killian Bundy

Man calls 911 after Subway left sauce off sandwich

/typical Obama voter, reliant on the government, can't fend for himself

Shoulda' book his sandwich as evidence.

139 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:28:08pm

re: #134 jcm

If I invite Hebert to a picnic but I'm niggardly with the food, and I show him how I mirror my master and slave hard drives, on my tower pc in a midnight black case and black light illumination with a blackhole screen saver, brag my company is in the black and I can afford to hire Blackwater security.

What does that make me?

I'm sniggering.

140 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:28:24pm

re: #134 jcm
Filthy rich!Cograts on your success!

141 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:28:47pm

re: #134 jcm

If I invite Hebert to a picnic but I'm niggardly with the food, and I show him how I mirror my master and slave hard drives, on my tower pc in a midnight black case and black light illumination with a blackhole screen saver, brag my company is in the black and I can afford to hire Blackwater security.

What does that make me?

A fashion disaster waiting to happen. No taste what so ever.

142 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:28:49pm

Big dicks see phalli everywhere.

143 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:29:01pm

re: #55 tommygum
did you say that was long-wang amusement park?

144 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:29:10pm

re: #114 JamesTKirk

They say you should never sleep with anyone who's crazier than you are.

You'd think I'd have trouble even finding women who are crazier than I am, but I manage. I manage.

/"But not my wife," he adds, in case she wanders by and reads over his shoulder... ;)

If your wife wanders by and reads over your shoulder, she'll have more than enough questions regarding your verb tenses, without even getting into the "do you mean me?" angle.

145 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:29:22pm

re: #134 jcm

If I invite Hebert to a picnic but I'm niggardly with the food, and I show him how I mirror my master and slave hard drives, on my tower pc in a midnight black case and black light illumination with a blackhole screen saver, brag my company is in the black and I can afford to hire Blackwater security.

What does that make me?

A bad host?

146 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:29:56pm

I does seem like a lot of these Obama people a caught up in Freudian imagery. Then you have the man crush thing going on with guys like Chris Matthews. Hey, this is not helpful to my children.

147 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:29:59pm

re: #46 buzzsawmonkey

…A glimpse of shaven pop-tart snatch.

What's wrong with a little frosting on the pop-tart?

Especially since Pop-Tart frosting is a great weight loss tool. It has negative calories.

148 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:30:29pm
149 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:30:42pm

re: #142 HelloDare

If I was a bit more earthy I would call Hebert a Dick-brained idiot.

But instead I can be factually correct and still say the same thing.

150 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:31:06pm

re: #127 Thanos

On talk of the town on NPR they spent a lot of time on "charisma" comparing Obama's "new" charisma to the Clinton's and Reagan's old charisma. A caller made a secretariat reference. They are all about image not substance.

Secretariat = race horse = "hung like a horse" = white terror of black peepee!

It's all a conspiracy against poor Barry.

151 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:31:11pm

Robert Novak Announces Immediate Retirement

Columnist Robert D. Novak is retiring immediately because of a dim prognosis in his battle against a brain tumor, the Chicago Sun-Times reported today.
152 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:31:14pm

re: #147 JamesTKirk

What's wrong with a little frosting on the pop-tart?

Especially since Pop-Tart frosting is a great weight loss tool. It has negative calories.

What is that stuff made out of? Can it solve the energy crisis?

153 Dizzy26  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:31:24pm

"If you experience an electile dysfunction lasting for more than 4 months,
see your lizard veternarian immediately. AND PRAY

154 maddogg  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:31:28pm

re: #134 jcm

If I invite Hebert to a picnic but I'm niggardly with the food, and I show him how I mirror my master and slave hard drives, on my tower pc in a midnight black case and black light illumination with a blackhole screen saver, brag my company is in the black and I can afford to hire Blackwater security.

What does that make me?

Monochromatic?

155 noshariaincanada  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:31:46pm

re: #134 jcm

If I invite Hebert to a picnic but I'm niggardly with the food, and I show him how I mirror my master and slave hard drives, on my tower pc in a midnight black case and black light illumination with a blackhole screen saver, brag my company is in the black and I can afford to hire Blackwater security.

What does that make me?


oh it makes you obsessed with blackness, my dear friend.

156 LeePro  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:32:05pm

re: #125 anotherindyfilmguy

JATWFRHBFCaRWMoPTD...

? ? ?
Translate?

157 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:32:30pm

re: #152 lifeofthemind

What is that stuff made out of? Can it solve the energy crisis?

I dunno, but read the labels next time you're in the grocery store.

Strawberry Pop Tart (plain) = 210 calories.

Strawberry Pop Tart with frosting = 200 calories.

Ergo, Pop Tart frosting has -10 calories per serving.

158 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:33:03pm

re: #152 lifeofthemind

What is that stuff made out of? Can it solve the energy crisis?

pure sugar...
bad bad bad....

159 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:33:59pm

re: #134 jcm

First thing I'd think is it would make you someone with very poor taste in selecting your picnic guests.

160 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:33:59pm

re: #157 JamesTKirk

I dunno, but read the labels next time you're in the grocery store.

Strawberry Pop Tart (plain) = 210 calories.

Strawberry Pop Tart with frosting = 200 calories.

Ergo, Pop Tart frosting has -10 calories per serving.


So if you eat three bowls of frosting every day, you will lose weight?

161 Egfrow  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:34:21pm

Everyone is talking about Goverment Solutions for our energy problems when what is needed is for them to get the hell out of the way.

162 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:34:49pm

re: #159 lifeofthemind

First thing I'd think is it would make you someone with very poor taste in selecting your picnic guests.

LOL!

163 maddogg  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:35:12pm

re: #161 Egfrow

Everyone is talking about Goverment Solutions for our energy problems when what is needed is for them to get the hell out of the way.

That is most generally the case no matter what the issue is.

164 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:35:16pm

re: #161 Egfrow

Everyone is talking about Goverment Solutions for our energy problems when what is needed is for them to get the hell out of the way.

DING! DING! DING!

165 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:35:18pm

re: #148 buzzsawmonkey

The recipient of some black looks, no doubt.

Your politically incorrect puns are really the chink in your armor. What, like the other posts in this thread are spic & span? You may think you can nip any criticism in the bud; but you're just throwing another faggot onto the bonfire of controversy.

166 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:35:56pm

re: #160 opnion

So if you eat three bowls of frosting every day, you will lose weight?

That's the theory. I have yet to put it to the test, however; I'm waiting for a government grant.

167 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:36:19pm
168 Josephine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:36:26pm

re: #134 jcm

At my former workplace, we had anti-racism workshops. In one, the facilitators talked about how our use of language might hurt people. We had to list all the terms we used that might hurt some people's feelings: black humour, living under a black cloud, black sheep of the family, being in a black mood, etc. We were encouraged to think of different ways of expressing negativity without bringing dark colours into it.

169 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:36:48pm

re: #158 HoosierHoops

pure sugar...
bad bad bad....

Better than I thought. Guessed it would be like Suntory bourbon. Sold in vending machines in Japan and manufactured from dead dinosaurs. No evidence that it uses anything that has been alive in 30 million years.

170 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:36:53pm

re: #165 Occasional Reader

Your politically incorrect puns are really the chink in your armor. What, like the other posts in this thread are spic & span? You may think you can nip any criticism in the bud; but you're just throwing another faggot onto the bonfire of controversy.

He was just calling a spade a spade.

"The jig is up!"
"And gone!"
-Blazing Saddles

171 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:37:29pm

This guy Herbert must have a lot of friends named Richard.
Sounds like he is obsessed with Dicks. Gee, I wish that I hadn't said that.

172 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:37:42pm
173 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:37:53pm

re: #168 Josephine

At my former workplace, we had anti-racism workshops. In one, the facilitators talked about how our use of language might hurt people. We had to list all the terms we used that might hurt some people's feelings: black humour, living under a black cloud, black sheep of the family, being in a black mood, etc. We were encouraged to think of different ways of expressing negativity without bringing dark colours into it.

The phrase "green with envy" was racially offensive to my Orion ex-girlfriends.

174 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:38:01pm

re: #168 Josephine

At my former workplace, we had anti-racism workshops. In one, the facilitators talked about how our use of language might hurt people. We had to list all the terms we used that might hurt some people's feelings: black humour, living under a black cloud, black sheep of the family, being in a black mood, etc. We were encouraged to think of different ways of expressing negativity without bringing dark colours into it.

Off to Joy Camp with me!

175 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:38:46pm

re: #168 Josephine

At my former workplace, we had anti-racism workshops. In one, the facilitators talked about how our use of language might hurt people. We had to list all the terms we used that might hurt some people's feelings: black humour, living under a black cloud, black sheep of the family, being in a black mood, etc. We were encouraged to think of different ways of expressing negativity without bringing dark colours into it.

Blinded by the light!

176 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:38:51pm

re: #170 JamesTKirk

He was just calling a spade a spade.

"The jig is up!"
"And gone!"
-Blazing Saddles

Mel Brooks singlehandedly did away with real racism.

177 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:39:14pm

re: #160 opnion

So if you eat three bowls of frosting every day, you will lose weight?

This is the type of theory you test on a friends children when they come to visit, shortly before they leave to run around their parent's ceiling.

178 Josephine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:39:53pm

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

Hmmmmm. Like "PC," "touchy-feely," "mush-brained?"

Saying that would have gotten me blackballed.

179 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:39:54pm

re: #167 buzzsawmonkey

I like your slant on things.

I don't give two guineas what you like. Your puns show a downward slope in taste. Soon you'll hit bottom, with a resounding "wop!".

180 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:40:00pm

re: #166 JamesTKirk

That's the theory. I have yet to put it to the test, however; I'm waiting for a government grant.


Yeah, I wanted a grant to study why kids fall off of tricycles.
The University of Wisconsin beat me to it.
You can guess what their conclusion was.

181 mikalm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:40:04pm

re: #169 lifeofthemind

Somebody once said that the purer a water is when obtained from a natural aquifer, the higher the concentration of dinosaur pee!

182 maddogg  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:40:23pm

re: #168 Josephine

At my former workplace, we had anti-racism workshops. In one, the facilitators talked about how our use of language might hurt people. We had to list all the terms we used that might hurt some people's feelings: black humour, living under a black cloud, black sheep of the family, being in a black mood, etc. We were encouraged to think of different ways of expressing negativity without bringing dark colours into it.

That kind of weak kneed brain dead thinking is exactly what the hell is wrong with this modern society. Screw them and their cursed idiocy.

183 greenmiler  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:40:32pm

re: #177 lifeofthemind

This is the type of theory you test on a friends children when they come to visit, shortly before they leave to run around their parent's ceiling.

If I ate three bowls of frosting I'd lose wait from diahrea

184 Tamron  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:40:34pm

Give Herbert a break! His only problem is just that he was on the wrong show. His brand of logic and observation is entirely welcome here:


.

185 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:40:57pm

re: #166 JamesTKirk

That's the theory. I have yet to put it to the test, however; I'm waiting for a government grant.

Maybe you could get a grant to study...

Study: Most kids' fast-food meals have too many calories

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Advances in science.

186 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:41:22pm
187 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:41:26pm

re: #177 lifeofthemind

This is the type of theory you test on a friends children when they come to visit, shortly before they leave to run around their parent's ceiling.

Not coming to your house.....
Mine don't need sugar..... I swear I could solve the energy crises with these kids. I KNOW I don't feed 'em as many calories and they expend running amok!

188 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:41:54pm

re: #186 buzzsawmonkey

Isn't "Herbert" a slang term from the original Star Trek for a clueless old fool?

Yes, but I was avoiding making that point myself, since it brings back memories of the horrible Space Hippies episode.

189 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:42:05pm

re: #179 Occasional Reader

I don't give two guineas what you like. Your puns show a downward slope in taste. Soon you'll hit bottom, with a resounding "wop!".

Hmm, your humor could cause one to go on the War Path.

190 Josephine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:42:45pm

re: #182 maddogg

That kind of weak kneed brain dead thinking is exactly what the hell is wrong with this modern society. Screw them and their cursed idiocy.

You won't be surprised when I tell you it was at a large board of education in Canada.

I'm sure it has only gotten worse in the decade since I left.

191 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:42:46pm

re: #189 opnion

Hmm, your humor could cause one to go on the War Path.

Honest Injun?

"There's nothing worse than an Indian giver. No, wait, I take that back..."
-Stephen Wright

192 USBeast  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:42:51pm

re: #122 Quintus_Arius

I have a humble blog, that rarely draws any comments. Some here have read the second-party editorials I frequently post. Then out of the blue, I get this. I thought it would good for a chuckle here at LGF.

"The white man is fond of technology. He is souless and disconnected from the Earth so the white feels a constant need to use technology to rape the Earth or abuse nature. We see this in the form of the white man's factories of pollution, global warming or in the Katrina attack on New Orleans in 2005.
Look at the space shuttle. It is nothing more than a giant white phallus sent to orbit the Earth as a hostile errection threatening rape."

"Blasting, billowing, bursting forth with the power of ten billion butterfly sneezes
Man, with his flaming fire, has conquered the wayward breezes
Climbing to tranquility far above the cloud
Conceiving the heaven clear of misty shroud." The Moody Blues

Anyone have a problem with that?

193 greenmiler  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:42:59pm

re: #189 opnion

Hmm, your humor could cause one to go on the War Path.


Who you callin wop? :)

194 maddogg  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:43:24pm
I don't give two guineas what you like. Your puns show a downward slope in taste. Soon you'll hit bottom, with a resounding "wop!".

Punvy is not pretty.......

195 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:44:00pm

re: #189 opnion

Hmm, your humor could cause one to go on the War Path.

See? You had no reservations about writing that post; and you even scalped my previous post to do it. Aren't you at least a little red-faced now? This thread has turned into a Chinese Fire Drill! So I'm out.

For now.

196 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:44:12pm

re: #191 JamesTKirk

Honest Injun?

"There's nothing worse than an Indian giver. No, wait, I take that back..."
-Stephen Wright

I feel that I am being cheated on this thread, gyped if you will

197 Josephine  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:44:22pm

Oh, rats, I have to help my husband with the dishes. Bye, all. Take time to celebrate the rainbow that is us.

/

198 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:45:09pm

re: #196 opnion

I feel that I am being cheated on this thread, gyped if you will

buzzsaw welshed on his promise not to inflict more puns on us...

(now I'm out)

199 mikalm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:45:18pm

re: #184 Tamron

Really? I thought this show would be a much more likely place to hear this kind of insightful analysis.

200 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:45:27pm

re: #195 Occasional Reader

See? You had no reservations about writing that post; and you even scalped my previous post to do it. Aren't you at least a little red-faced now? This thread has turned into a Chinese Fire Drill! So I'm out.

For now.

That did it . I want to talk to the boss. You know, the guy wearing all the feathers.

201 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:46:30pm

re: #147 JamesTKirk

what are negative calories?

202 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:47:11pm

re: #196 opnion

I feel that I am being cheated on this thread, gyped if you will

You welshed on a bet. That really got my Irish up.

203 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:47:38pm

re: #201 sojerofgod

what are negative calories?

That chocolate you eat to keep a friend from getting fat. Altruistic calories.

204 Red_State_Envy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:47:43pm

I totally understand Herbert's phallic focus. Whenever I look at Barack Obama, I see nothing but a big d**khead.

205 Thanos  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:47:46pm

re: #201 sojerofgod

what are negative calories?

They come from the anti-caloric universe, it's just past the bizzarro universe.

206 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:47:54pm

re: #201 sojerofgod

what are negative calories?

That's where you expend more calories opening the package than you get from eating what was in there. I.E. my cereal this morning, Kashi Crunch.

207 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:48:02pm

re: #201 sojerofgod

what are negative calories?

See #157

208 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:48:26pm

re: #168 Josephine

At my former workplace, we had anti-racism workshops. In one, the facilitators talked about how our use of language might hurt people. We had to list all the terms we used that might hurt some people's feelings: black humour, living under a black cloud, black sheep of the family, being in a black mood, etc. We were encouraged to think of different ways of expressing negativity without bringing dark colours into it.

Been to a few of these hate fests. Made more tolerable by focusing on the soft ride it gives the outside consultants who have made an industry of shaking down gov't and industry so they can come in and threaten people. That then helps the HR grievance coordinators. Jobs for everybody! I was on ACDUTRA when Tailhook hit and we all had to sit around and feel bad, officially. Give the Navy credit, they understood that attending these was so painful that they could be used as a threat of punishment. "Screw up and act like an ass and we'll send you to sensitivity training" A normal sailor would respond with, "No please Sir anything else, beat the piss out me, make me scrub the bilges, but not that." We had the same effective attitude towards Safety. Act careless and we'd make your boss do paperwork. You'd be sorry.

209 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:48:27pm

re: #205 Thanos

They come from the anti-caloric universe, it's just past the bizzarro universe.

Pop Tarts with goatees.

210 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:48:45pm

re: #202 JamesTKirk

You welshed on a bet. That really got my Irish up.


Hmm, I must found the "Chink"in your armor.

211 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:48:58pm

re: #160 opnion

Yes, After you purge yourself of that nasty stuff every evening with your finger.

Some things are meant to be taken in small doses: Other things in no dose at all. the glutenous conglomeration of fat and powdered sugar known politely as "frosting" is in the latter catagory.

212 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:49:17pm

re: #203 jcm

That chocolate you eat to keep a friend from getting fat. Altruistic calories.

If you eat something that you don't like - wasted calories.

213 USBeast  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:49:42pm

This is turning into a delightfully politically incorrect thread. I think I'll take a break from designing a giant light bulb for two Pollacks to screw in to stick around.

214 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:49:50pm

re: #183 greenmiler

If I ate three bowls of frosting I'd lose wait from diahrea

Great idea, we'll make a fortune. Maybe add just a little cholera?

215 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:50:03pm

I'm just sitting back and watching the dago by.

216 opnion  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:50:07pm

re: #205 Thanos

They come from the anti-caloric universe, it's just past the bizzarro universe.


No, it's one beer per each slice of pizza. It creates balance & negative calories.

217 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:50:30pm

re: #206 kansas


I refuse to try Kashi Crunch. Any product that so pompously proclaims it's positive proclivities has got to be at least mildly toxic.

Gimme Life cereal and whiffle biscuits (mixed) any day over that.

218 Egfrow  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:51:03pm

I just heard Obama say that Drilling will deliver no short or long term solution to our energy problems. I guess this goes to reason that growing more food does not cure long or short term hunger. Of course when Obama snatches close to $300,000,000,000 ($1000x 300million) from the Oil companies to pay the new tax bonus next year. The Oil Companies won't have any cash left to build new rigs anyway.

219 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:51:04pm

re: #213 USBeast

This is turning into a delightfully politically incorrect thread. I think I'll take a break from designing a giant light bulb for two Pollacks to screw in to stick around.

It's all Greek to me.

(Actually, that would be better applied to Zombie's photo essay, which sadly did not feature any denizens of the Island of Sappho...)

220 wolfie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:51:07pm

This is unredeemed silliness to begin with, but doubly so considering the candidates. Even at age 71, McCain is far more macho than Obama. Gimme a break.
Obambi couldn't inspire anyone to think in terms of the dark, sexual savage if he tried.

221 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:51:12pm

Oatmeal with dried cherries.

222 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:51:21pm

re: #201 sojerofgod

what are negative calories?

Celery.. it has no calories yet it takes 1 calorie to eat it..
thus a -1 calorie..
/you know that whole thing about putting cream cheese or peanut butter on celery really defeats the purpose and skews the numbers.

223 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:51:30pm

re: #216 opnion

No, it's one beer per each slice of pizza. It creates balance & negative calories.

It's like eating pasta and antipasto. They cancel out.

224 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:51:46pm

re: #214 lifeofthemind

I thought we solved ring-around-the-cholera ages ago.

With Wisk, I believe. Two tablespoons in the morning ought to do it.

225 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:52:17pm

re: #220 wolfie

This is unredeemed silliness to begin with, but doubly so considering the candidates. Even at age 71, McCain is far more macho than Obama. Gimme a break.
Obambi couldn't inspire anyone to think in terms of the dark, sexual savage if he tried.

Absolutely!

226 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:52:26pm

re: #168 Josephine

At my former workplace, we had anti-racism workshops. In one, the facilitators talked about how our use of language might hurt people. We had to list all the terms we used that might hurt some people's feelings: black humour, living under a black cloud, black sheep of the family, being in a black mood, etc. We were encouraged to think of different ways of expressing negativity without bringing dark colours into it.

You must have worked for the government.

227 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:52:50pm

re: #220 wolfie

This is unredeemed silliness to begin with, but doubly so considering the candidates. Even at age 71, McCain is far more macho than Obama. Gimme a break.
Obambi couldn't inspire anyone to think in terms of the dark, sexual savage if he tried.

Especially since the savage one is obviously his wife. You can easily see her wielding the whip and riding crop, even if you don't want to.

Go on, picture it.

228 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:53:05pm

re: #222 HoosierHoops

Celery.. it has no calories yet it takes 1 calorie to eat it..
thus a -1 calorie..
/you know that whole thing about putting cream cheese or peanut butter on celery really defeats the purpose and skews the numbers.


If you grow your own celery, all that work in the garden, you've got a big negative number.

229 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:53:19pm

re: #219 JamesTKirk

Deniziens?

Given the gravitational proclivities of the inmates you refer to, In that setting I think the correct term for them would be Downizens!

230 RickZ  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:53:28pm

re: #201 sojerofgod

what are negative calories?

The Maze (Long Kesh) Diet. Bobby Sands really ate it up!

231 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:53:51pm

re: #217 sojerofgod

I refuse to try Kashi Crunch. Any product that so pompously proclaims it's positive proclivities has got to be at least mildly toxic.

Gimme Life cereal and whiffle biscuits (mixed) any day over that.


Pompous? I did not see that. A body builder told me he ate it, so wah lah I got some. However I don't lift weights so the stuff was hard to open.

232 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:54:30pm

re: #227 JamesTKirk

Especially since the savage one is obviously his wife. You can easily see her wielding the whip and riding crop, even if you don't want to.

Go on, picture it.

Leave Barack Obama Alone!

233 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:54:31pm
234 Opilio  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:54:38pm

re: #220 wolfie

Obambi couldn't inspire anyone to think in terms of the dark, sexual savage if he tried.

Not even Michelle ?

235 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:55:17pm
236 Cognito  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:56:02pm

Ha.

I'm having a hard time finding a way to criticize Herbert that couldn't be twisted, with enough imagination, into some sort of racial/sexual/whatever slur.

How about a big smile and a "keep it up!"

Seriously.

237 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:56:30pm

re: #230 RickZ

The Maze (Long Kesh) Diet. Bobby Sands really ate it up!

ROFL!
He really showed 'em!

238 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:56:46pm

re: #233 buzzsawmonkey

I'm pro-pasto myself. I'm tired of the relentless negativity.

I'm sick of all the people who are intolerant of lactose. It's time to put the negativity behind you and embrace it.

239 Cognito  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:57:06pm

re: #230 RickZ

The Maze (Long Kesh) Diet. Bobby Sands really ate it up!

So is it the Maze or is it Long Kesh?

/litmus

240 wolfie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:57:50pm

re: #227 JamesTKirk

Especially since the savage one is obviously his wife. You can easily see her wielding the whip and riding crop, even if you don't want to.

Go on, picture it.

You just had to make us picture it, didn't you?
Aaaaaaaauuuuughhhhhhhhhh.

241 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:58:01pm

re: #184 Tamron

Give Herbert a break! His only problem is just that he was on the wrong show. His brand of logic and observation is entirely welcome here:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]
.

That really was priceless. You are correct that the rhetorical techniques used by the MSM to promote Obama and prevent intelligent debate are essentially Islamic. They resemble the false claims and efforts to set the terms of both sides positions preemptively used by the Moslems in claiming that the Byzantine Emperor knew that they had the true religion.

242 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:58:19pm

re: #240 wolfie

You just had to make us picture it, didn't you?
Aaaaaaaauuuuughhhhhhhhhh.


Wait....is she naked?

243 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:58:56pm

Today's moron of the day: someone who believes that Dragonball (whatever the heck that is) is older than Lord of the Rings.

[Link: forums.toonzone.net...]

244 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:59:30pm

re: #242 kansas

Wait....is she naked?


Well if she is..Zombie missed the picture..

245 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:59:31pm

re: #240 wolfie

You just had to make us picture it, didn't you?
Aaaaaaaauuuuughhhhhhhhhh.

Did you imagine her giving him continuous instructions?

246 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:59:39pm
247 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:59:41pm

re: #231 kansas

Well they only ran them on cable while they were doing the product roll-out, but the gist of them was that Kashi was so wonderful it was made by wind-driven maidens using water gleaned from virginal snow. and all right-minded people, you know, the ones who think that by fastidious diet and exercise ( Get that cigarette away from me! your killing my cells!) they can actually cheat death and live forever!, So eat Kashi as part of their daily immortality regimen.

248 wolfie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 3:59:55pm

re: #234 Opilio

Not even Michelle ?

Especially not Michelle. :O

249 RickZ  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:00:15pm

re: #239 Cognito

So is it the Maze or is it Long Kesh?

/litmus

Who cares what a denomination calls it. It's a f*ckin' prison, or rather Her Majesty's Jail.

250 Captain Jack  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:00:23pm

Too bad that all the people out there in mainstream media land who make up the bulk of eligible voters will see is a seemingly plausible argument from a NYT Editorial. If this were the other way around the AP would put our a news analysis piece and review McCain's ad and smack the NYT down. Its amazing Republicans win any elections at all. I think its generalized cynicism.

251 Opilio  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:00:43pm

re: #51 wrenchwench

From an earlier post of an article written after Obama's 1st month in the U.S. Senate:

"Andy Warhol said we all get our 15 minutes of fame," says Barack Obama. "I've already had an hour and a half. I mean, I'm so overexposed, I'm making Paris Hilton look like a recluse."


Later in the same article:

At interview's end, Obama takes another silly question about whether he'd run for president in 2008 ([answer:] no)

That isn't the 'no' I knew back in 2005...

252 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:00:46pm
253 wolfie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:02:31pm

re: #246 Ojoe

Let me whip this out —

Here is the cool tower from which all the Mt. Wilson Towercam pictures originate

Oh no ! Hide your daughters everyone !

254 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:03:07pm

re: #176 debutaunt

The new candidate is a

(Ding Ding)

255 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:03:16pm

re: #252 buzzsawmonkey

Clearly someone who does not realize that Lord of the Rings was a series of books written before s/he was born.

I think that's a troll.

256 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:03:28pm

re: #247 sojerofgod

Well they only ran them on cable while they were doing the product roll-out, but the gist of them was that Kashi was so wonderful it was made by wind-driven maidens using water gleaned from virginal snow. and all right-minded people, you know, the ones who think that by fastidious diet and exercise ( Get that cigarette away from me! your killing my cells!) they can actually cheat death and live forever!, So eat Kashi as part of their daily immortality regimen.


You are kidding, right? Looks like you have too many facts to be joking. I just like the cereal....that and I want to be immortal.

257 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:03:32pm

re: #243 The Other Les

Today's moron of the day: someone who believes that Dragonball (whatever the heck that is) is older than Lord of the Rings.

[Link: forums.toonzone.net...]

Nothing existed before the 90's?
Maybe we should ask it about Beowulf.

258 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:03:55pm
259 Cognito  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:04:10pm

re: #252 buzzsawmonkey

Clearly someone who does not realize that Lord of the Rings was a series of books written before s/he was born.

Wait... there were books about those movies?

260 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:04:23pm

re: #250 Captain Jack

Its amazing Republicans win any elections at all.

Imagine the landslides they'd have with an honest media?

Imagine the candidate we'd have now, instead of the jerk the MSM foisted on us?

261 Cognito  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:05:17pm

re: #258 buzzsawmonkey

The Hobbit was written before s/he was born, too.

I daresay The Hobbit was written before most of us were born...

262 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:05:19pm

re: #256 kansas

That's right.

I want to be immortal by not dying. (HT to Woody Allen, tho I'd rather give him the back of my hand...)

263 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:05:30pm

re: #250 Captain Jack

My friend The Doctor warned me about you...

264 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:05:41pm

re: #260 JamesTKirk

Imagine the landslides they'd have with an honest media?

Imagine the candidate we'd have now, instead of the jerk the MSM foisted on us?

Imagine if the (R) didn't roll over and pander.

265 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:06:01pm

re: #261 Cognito

Who all here were born before 1937?

Show of hands?

266 kynna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:06:44pm

This is too funny. Although Pat Buchanan's comment didn't amuse me as much as it creeped me out on several levels.

So the GOP is concerned about black men and white women? So that's why almost all conservative revere Clarence (married to a white woman) Thomas as the great man he is? And all of America -- including conservatives -- loves Tiger (married to a white woman) Woods.

Somehow it just doesn't add up.

267 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:07:09pm

re: #264 jcm

Imagine if the (R) didn't roll over and pander.

bears repeating...

268 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:07:51pm

re: #266 kynna

This is too funny. Although Pat Buchanan's comment didn't amuse me as much as it creeped me out on several levels.

So the GOP is concerned about black men and white women? So that's why almost all conservative revere Clarence (married to a white woman) Thomas as the great man he is? And all of America -- including conservatives -- loves Tiger (married to a white woman) Woods.

Somehow it just doesn't add up.


I think we've pretty much decided Pat Buchanan is seriously deranged.

269 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:08:11pm

re: #252 buzzsawmonkey

Clearly someone who does not realize that Lord of the Rings was a series of books written before s/he was born.

Vat ist dis "books" ov wich yu spik? Kin i dounlod it tu meye ip0d?

270 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:08:56pm

re: #268 kansas

I think we've pretty much decided Pat Buchanan is seriously deranged.

The only thing I'll thank him for is killing Ross Perot's party.

271 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:08:56pm

OK, it's a column, but is it such a victory?

272 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:09:33pm

re: #252 buzzsawmonkey

Clearly someone who does not realize that Lord of the Rings was a series of books written before s/he was born.

Or aware of ancient mythology.

273 stashiu  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:09:48pm

This must be coming from the same stoned crowd who kept playing Abbey Road backwards to get the secret message.

274 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:09:52pm

re: #268 kansas

Buchanan has always been a POS in my opinion...

I disliked him before disliking him was cool :-)

275 Glen Wishard  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:09:57pm
Both of the clips in that McCain advertisement show the same building: the Victory Column in Berlin.

Or as Germans call it, Der Grosse Schlong.

Yes, I know that isn't real German. But I've made up more German off the top of my head than most Germans know.

276 Cognito  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:10:17pm

Congratulations an outstanding headline, by the way, Charles.

Really good one.

277 lostlakehiker  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:10:27pm

re: #168 Josephine

It's a lost cause. You cannot purge yourself of original whiteness.

This guy Herbert must never have even heard of fact checking. He must never have seen the Washington Monument, either in person or in a photo, nor the leaning tower of Pisa.

The leaning tower of Pisa is in Pisa, not Berlin. The Washington monument is in Washington, D.C., which is also not a neighborhood of Berlin. The footage is from Berlin.

Hello! How hard can it be?

Oops, my bad---another s*xual insinuation.

/sarc

278 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:10:33pm

re: #268 kansas

I think we've pretty much decided Pat Buchanan is seriously deranged.

Was he ever ranged? Buckley didn't think so.

279 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:10:41pm

re: #273 stashiu

"Paul is dead"

(R0n Paul?)

280 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:10:50pm

re: #273 stashiu

This must be coming from the same stoned crowd who kept playing Abbey Road backwards to get the secret message.

DUH! It's the White Album you've got to play backwards!

/

281 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:10:53pm

re: #273 stashiu

This must be coming from the same stoned crowd who kept playing Abbey Road backwards to get the secret message.

Turn me on deadman.
/Kookookachoo

282 Alouette  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:10:56pm

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You almost had me google "Giant Penis Tower" till I thought of what that might bring back as search results.

a zombie photo essay?

283 akak  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:11:27pm
Santorini 'butcher' gravely ill
By Malcolm Brabant
BBC News, Athens

A man who decapitated his girlfriend and paraded the head around a village on the Greek island of Santorini is now fighting for his life in hospital.

Athanassios Arvanitis, a 31-year-old chef, was shot five times by police before his arrest. He has wounds to his lungs and is in intensive care.

/copycat Greek standbier's


[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]


/Λεωνίδας off

284 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:11:43pm

re: #275 Glen Wishard

A flexible language with rigid rules.

285 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:11:48pm

re: #280 goddessoftheclassroom

DUH! It's the White Album you've got to play backwards!

/

IAmtheWalrus

286 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:12:01pm

How can anyone mistake the Leaning Tower of Pisa?

That'sa my slant on things.

287 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:12:56pm
288 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:12:56pm

JustlostmySpacekey.
Gottadigoutthesparekeyboard.
later.

289 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:13:12pm

re: #278 jcm

Was he ever ranged? Buckley didn't think so.

He got votes in Florida.

290 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:13:13pm

re: #283 akak

Yay, the cop obviously kept the hammer on an empty chamber, otherwise the bastard would've had six holes in him.

Safety First!

291 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:13:46pm

re: #259 Cognito

Wait... there were books about those movies?


/uh oh.. I'm probably the only dude at LGF that has never seen the hobbit or lord of the rings or star wars..or any of those geeky books they came from..
//skip bayless on the Dallas Cowboys season was really good..
/// don't hate da playa

292 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:14:01pm
293 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:14:15pm

re: #289 kansas

He got votes in Florida.

Those where stolen by the butterfly ballot, those poor people were really voting for Algore.

294 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:14:18pm

re: #286 Ojoe


happens when you make it up as you go along

Also when blinded by the Lightowner

295 Ceemack  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:14:33pm

Seeing the Victory Tower as a phallic symbol, putting that together with images of a couple of celebrity bimbos and coming up with the idea that it's really about the old fear of a black man around white women...

...is such a reach that it almost has to be projection.

I think Bob's got some unresolved issues.

296 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:15:09pm

re: #293 jcm

Those where stolen by the butterfly ballot, those poor people were really voting for Algore.

Votes are votes.

297 daddyo  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:15:32pm

Will geoduck clams be served at the DNC ?

298 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:15:39pm

re: #294 sojerofgod

If I thought I was voting for Algore and instead voted for Buchanan I think I'd shoot myself.

Actually if I had voted for Algore I think I still would've shot myself!

299 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:15:59pm

re: #292 buzzsawmonkey

That's "Je Suis le Walrus," since the Obamessiah has mandated that we shall learn foreign languages.

Je suis lui comme tu es lui comme tu es moi et nous sommes tous ensemble...

300 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:16:16pm

re: #292 buzzsawmonkey

uzsday igpay atlinlay ountkay?

ess-yay?

Eerthay, Iay alifiquay.

301 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:16:30pm
302 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:16:43pm
303 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:17:04pm

lol

Where did they get this guy?

Oh, the NYT.

lol

Never mind.

304 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:17:31pm

re: #298 sojerofgod

If I thought I was voting for Algore and instead voted for Buchanan I think I'd shoot myself.

Actually if I had voted for Algore I think I still would've shot myself!

Good decision. Glad you didn't have to.

305 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:17:57pm

re: #301 buzzsawmonkey

Le upding!

Have to do something with my high school French. I'm certainly not planning any trips to France.

306 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:17:58pm

I got a new bumpersticker for you guys to critique for me, it's a Drill-for-oil related sticker I call Arabs are drilling America

Yall take a gander and tell me whatch'a think.

307 Archimedes  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:18:06pm

With this imagery approach to "thinking" you could really make any damned thing up you want.

Pick a theme, any theme:

Obama is a space alien! The towers are symbols for space ships, and he wants us to conserve energy so that he can get enough fuel to get back to his home planet.

Me primitive thinker. Me think in pictures.

308 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:18:38pm

re: #307 Archimedes

Grunt.

309 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:19:04pm
Bob Herbert: Why is everyone missing the phallic symbols in McCain’s Britney ad?

Perhaps Bob, because you're the only one who sees the Berlin Victory Tower as a phallic symbol. As to why you think that way, one can only wonder...

310 FrogMarch  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:19:24pm

Everyone better watch them again just to make sure.

/heh

311 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:19:26pm

re: #303 godfrey
Where did they get this guy?



Quota?

312 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:19:35pm

re: #305 JamesTKirk

Au contraire, you should be planning your trip for, say, 2050. At that point, the euro will be worth exactly nothing. Of course, you'll have to eat at the Bistrot du Mecque.

313 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:19:41pm
314 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:19:44pm

re: #292 buzzsawmonkey

That's "Je Suis le Walrus," since the Obamessiah has mandated that we shall learn foreign languages.

Oh, I think if you want to be the walrus, you must say "Je Suis Walrus", if you include the particle, you are referring to a sexual role.

/just making it up along the lines of "Ich bin ein Berliner"

315 The Other Les  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:20:01pm

re: #273 stashiu

This must be coming from the same stoned crowd who kept playing Abbey Road backwards to get the secret message.

How many needles did they ruin?

(I keep thinking of those old vinyl records...)

316 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:22:06pm
317 wolfie  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:22:10pm

re: #297 daddyo

Will geoduck clams be served at the DNC ?

Has Herbert seen that picture?!

318 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:22:25pm

woooooooooooooooo

319 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:22:42pm

re: #299 JamesTKirk

Je suis lui comme tu es lui comme tu es moi et nous sommes tous ensemble...

Michelle ma belle
[I can't remember the first word] les mots qui sont tres bien ensemble, tres bien ensemble...

now we know why Obama wants us to learn French--Michelle is insisting on it.

320 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:22:44pm
Bob Herbert: Why is everyone missing the phallic symbols in McCain’s Britney ad?

Cuz most guys, when they look at skank, they just see skank. Not the scenery. Not the symbolism.

Smatter of fact, Bobby Baby, just what were you looking at, when the thought came to you, "hey that's phallic!"

321 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:22:46pm

re: #313 buzzsawmonkey

Conchons?

Isn't that supposed to be Cojones?

do Cojones have legs?

(ans: Of course! right underneath!)

322 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:22:51pm
323 Killian Bundy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:22:53pm

Have they found poo on the Red Planet?

Space websites around the world are abuzz with speculation about what NASA's latest Mars probe may have found.

The excitement has been triggered by a report in the journal Aviation Week that the space agency alerted the White House to "major new Phoenix lander discoveries concerning the 'potential for life' ".

Jon Clarke, a geologist with Mars Society Australia, a group dedicated to Martian exploration, said the report had triggered a frenzy of interest. "Chat groups are all speculating about what it is," Dr Clarke said. "We have had emails flying backwards and forwards. Something is certainly in the breeze."

/the corn was a dead giveaway

324 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:23:14pm

re: #296 kansas

Votes are votes.

LOL!

325 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:23:26pm

Anyone seen the new Zogby poll?

McCain ahead by 1.

Zogby is habitually off by a few points in favor of the Democrat in a race, so it is as good a confirmation of other polls as one might expect.

326 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:23:32pm

re: #313 buzzsawmonkey

Can you do the rest of it? I want to see how they run like cochons from une pistol, or whatever.

I don't remember that much French.

I did translate the whole thing when I was in high school, but it's gone now.

Je suis l'homme d'oeuf!
Ils sont l'homme d'oeuf!
Je suis le walrus! Goo goo la joob!

327 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:23:53pm
328 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:24:01pm

re: #312 godfrey

Au contraire, you should be planning your trip for, say, 2050. At that point, the euro will be worth exactly nothing. Of course, you'll have to eat at the Bistrot du Mecque.

You really think it will take that long?

329 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:24:06pm

I'm sure we all remember this smash hit from the early 80's:

Dites, dites, dites
ce que vous voulez
mais ne jouez pas avec
mes emotions

/too lazy to put in circumflexes etc

330 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:25:14pm

re: #328 JamesTKirk

You really think it will take that long?

Counting ten half-lifes of four years each.

331 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:25:15pm

re: #323 Killian Bundy

Have they found poo on the Red Planet?

/the corn was a dead giveaway

They got a text message from the lander.
"Oh, you have made very angry, very angry indeed!"

332 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:25:18pm

re: #319 goddessoftheclassroom

Michelle ma belle
[I can't remember the first word] les mots qui sont tres bien ensemble, tres bien ensemble...

now we know why Obama wants us to learn French--Michelle is insisting on it.

I believe it's
"Ce sont les mots qui vendre bien ensemble, tres bien ensemble."

333 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:25:26pm

re: #328 JamesTKirk

You really think it will take that long?

For the best deals, yes. I hear the ruins will be lovely that time of year!

334 unclassifiable  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:25:46pm

OK Bob, they're phallic symbols.

And with your help they are currently screwing up Obama's campaign pretty good.

BTW Bob swami says you're about to get real familiar with the drive train of a bus.

335 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:25:53pm

re: #327 buzzsawmonkey

oops.

But but,

The Messiah says we must be trylingual!

I'm trying!

336 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:26:45pm

re: #332 JamesTKirk

lol

Those words did sell well.

/Sont les mots qui vont tres bien ensemble...

337 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:26:58pm

re: #323 Killian Bundy

Have they found poo on the Red Planet?

Sorry, man, but when you gotta go, you gotta go.

(Shouldn't they be searching Uranus for poo, not Mars?)

338 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:27:10pm

re: #332 JamesTKirk

I believe it's
"Ce sont les mots qui vendre bien ensemble, tres bien ensemble."

I just checked; it's
"sont les mots qui vont très bien ensemble"

339 Archimedes  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:27:27pm

re: #316 buzzsawmonkey

A little "Men in Black," a little "Man Who Fell to Earth," and far too much Barack Lightworker.

He is the ONE we've been waiting for.

340 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:27:45pm
341 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:27:47pm

re: #329 godfrey

/too lazy to put in circumflexes etc

Same here.

342 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:28:42pm

re: #335 sojerofgod

The Messiah says we must be trylingual!

I've always been a cunning linguist.

343 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:29:09pm
344 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:29:34pm

re: #338 goddessoftheclassroom

I just checked; it's
"sont les mots qui vont très bien ensemble"

I stand corrected. As I said, my French is tres rusty.

345 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:29:38pm

re: #337 JamesTKirk

Sorry, man, but when you gotta go, you gotta go.

(Shouldn't they be searching Uranus for poo, not Mars?)

Hey, search your own.

346 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:29:41pm

On that Zogby poll, it looks like Obama's reversals on FISA and whatnot are costing him dearly:

"McCain gained 20% and Obama lost 16% among voters ages 18-29. Obama still leads that group, 49%-38%.

Obama had some slippage among Democrats, dropping from 83% to 74%. Obama’s support among single voters dropped by 19%, and he now leads McCain, 51%-37%."

By the way, the terms "poll" and "polling" are phallocentric!

347 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:30:03pm

re: #339 Archimedes

He is the ONE we've been waiting for.

One
Singular sensation
Running up and down your leg...

348 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:30:11pm

re: #10 zombie

penis envey from the chatting classes who don't have much of one.

349 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:30:28pm

re: #343 buzzsawmonkey

Come on, guys--show a little circumflexibility.

Don't be acute, this is a grave matter.

350 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:30:59pm

re: #349 JamesTKirk

Don't be acute, this is a grave matter.

Sacre Bleu.

351 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:31:01pm

re: #345 kansas

Hey, search your own.

I plan to.

As soon as I lose Sulu.

352 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:32:10pm

re: #338 goddessoftheclassroom

I just checked; it's
"sont les mots qui vont très bien ensemble"


{GOC}
Je voudrais vous assurer de mon professeur ont été à l'école, vous êtes intelligents et inspirer les gens avec votre affichage.
The hoopster

353 sojerofgod  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:32:21pm

re: #343 buzzsawmonkey

Ok now,

First we are asked to see the imaginary image of inphallability.
Now you are saying we need circumflexibility,

what next? sign on to the Obama campaign and get emasculatory enabled?

354 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:32:34pm

Truth be told, I like French as a language, and Italian. And Portuguese. And Ukrainian.

But I'll be damned if some sanctimonious horse's ass is going to tell me and my friends that we're provincial gun-toting clingy religious backwater types if we speak English and feel no moral compulsion to learn another language just so we can feel part of the One World Under Obama.

I read and speak more languages than Obama. I know from speaking to people in central and eastern Europe that there are millions of Europeans who would love to speak English.

So spare me the pomposity, Fauxbama.

355 Alouette  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:32:48pm

re: #332 JamesTKirk

I believe it's
"Ce sont les mots qui vendre bien ensemble, tres bien ensemble."

Sont les mots qui vont tres bien ensemble, tres bien ensemble

356 Archimedes  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:33:02pm

re: #347 JamesTKirk

Chris Mathew's leg.

357 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:34:08pm

re: #305 JamesTKirk
LOL, no trips to France here, either, but, I will admit to buying a pair of French sunglasses today, they simply make the best lens ever created, the Vuarnet Skilynx. I feel guilty every time I buy a pair, but I have to have that lens, it is the only one that works for me!

358 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:34:25pm

For years Herbert was at the Daily News, where he was beyond absurd. That got him promoted to the Affirmative Action Columnist gig at the Times.

He's Maureen Down with an adam's apple and a dark complexion, a journalistic embarrassment set for life because the Times is too afraid to fire him.

At least now the rest of the nation knows what a joke he is.

359 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:34:43pm

re: #354 godfrey

Tout a fait.

360 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:35:10pm

re: #358 JammieWearingFool

For years Herbert was at the Daily News, where he was beyond absurd. That got him promoted to the Affirmative Action Columnist gig at the Times.

He's Maureen Down with an adam's apple and a dark complexion, a journalistic embarrassment set for life because the Times is too afraid to fire him.

At least now the rest of the nation knows what a joke he is.

Are you saying that Maureen Dowd doesn't have an Adam's Apple? Because I've always wondered...

361 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:36:02pm

re: #357 CapeCoddah

Don't feel guilty. I know good French men, and even better French women. Support your friendly anti-idiotarians in France. God knows they're outnumbered.

362 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:36:26pm

re: #355 Alouette

Sont les mots qui vont tres bien ensemble, tres bien ensemble

This is the correct one.

363 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:36:33pm

re: #358 JammieWearingFool

For years Herbert was at the Daily News, where he was beyond absurd. That got him promoted to the Affirmative Action Columnist gig at the Times.

He's Maureen Down with an adam's apple and a dark complexion, a journalistic embarrassment set for life because the Times is too afraid to fire him.

At least now the rest of the nation knows what a joke he is.


You got your affirmative action columnist supporting the affirmative action candidate.
Change you can count on if my poll numbers drop. BO

364 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:36:49pm

re: #352 HoosierHoops

Vous etes tres gentil!

Ou, si je peux familier,

Tu es tres gentil!

(I don't know how to put in the diacriticals!--sorry!)

365 apachegunner  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:38:25pm

good, good, the Omamamonster would be proud of your french. So much more than Merce Bou Coot? re: #352 HoosierHoops

{GOC}
Je voudrais vous assurer de mon professeur ont été à l'école, vous êtes intelligents et inspirer les gens avec votre affichage.
The hoopster

366 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:39:12pm
367 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:39:24pm

re: #360 JamesTKirk

Are you saying that Maureen Dowd doesn't have an Adam's Apple? Because I've always wondered...

Good point, though I bet she could drink Herbert under the table.

On second thought, Dowd had probably strung a couple of coherent sentences together before. A more apt comparison at the Times might be the insipid Frank Rich.

368 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:39:39pm

re: #366 buzzsawmonkey

Or like stout Sarkozy, who with oiseaux d'aigle
Gazed at the banlieus, et tout his men
Stared at each other with wild surmise
Outnumbered anti-idiotariennes.

You're brilliant in two languages!

369 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:40:18pm
370 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:40:39pm

re: #367 JammieWearingFool

Good point, though I bet she could drink Herbert under the table.

On second thought, Dowd had probably strung a couple of coherent sentences together before. A more apt comparison at the Times might be the insipid Frank Rich.

My local paper has Dowd. Trust me. Nothing coherent there.

371 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:41:13pm

re: #369 buzzsawmonkey

I was just leafing through "The Joy of Bad French."

My French is always better after a glass of wine--I don't think about it as much!

372 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:41:24pm

re: #366 buzzsawmonkey

lol

Sometimes I'm just speechless.

373 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:42:16pm

re: #372 godfrey

lol

Sometimes I'm just speechless.

Then you're definitely not French.

374 NoSubmission  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:42:44pm

re: #282 Alouette

a zombie photo essay?


LOL

375 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:43:02pm

re: #361 godfrey
Never thought about it like that. Thanks!

376 Archimedes  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:43:21pm

re: #358 JammieWearingFool

For years Herbert was at the Daily News, where he was beyond absurd. That got him promoted to the Affirmative Action Columnist gig at the Times.

He's Maureen Down with an adam's apple and a dark complexion, a journalistic embarrassment set for life because the Times is too afraid to fire him.

At least now the rest of the nation knows what a joke he is.

I don't let the Times off on this one. They go for stuff like that. Weren't they trying to make the claim that "dealing from underneath the deck", quoted from someone in the McCain campaign, was an attempt to make a connection between OJ and Obama.

This was signed "The Board of Editors" or something, so that nobody's name in particular would be associated with it.

377 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:44:07pm

re: #309 Yankee Division Son

bob herbert see himself it it he must be a real putz.

378 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:44:50pm
379 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:45:06pm

re: #373 JamesTKirk

All y'all have to do is say something like, "Monica Bellucci? Si, certo, e' bella come il sole, ma che ne pensi di la Bruni?" Then my friend, we're off to the races.

380 williwonka  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:45:18pm

re: #48 Honorary Yooper

Yes, they do have a Coitus tower in San Francisco. At least they did. They may have taken it down and put it up somewhere else, where it is darker and no one can see it. But imagine you would still feel it if you bumped into it.

381 godfrey  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:45:27pm

"della Bruni." Scusa.

382 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:46:27pm

re: #371 goddessoftheclassroom

My French is always better after a glass of wine--I don't think about it as much!

thanks Goddess..I appreciate the complement...
I think everyone here thinks you are the bomb..

383 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:46:49pm

re: #379 godfrey

All y'all have to do is say something like, "Monica Bellucci? Si, certo, e' bella come il sole, ma che ne pensi di la Bruni?" Then my friend, we're off to the races.

"My name is Otto. It means 'eight'."
-A Fish Called Wanda

384 Archimedes  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:47:10pm

I think it would have been amusing if the guys listening to him all fell off of their chairs while trying to retain their composure. "Yes, well, ah. Is there anyone else we can speak to?"

385 DaChew  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:47:11pm

Bob Herbert sees phallic symbols around Barack Obama. Ladies and Gentlemen I think we've got our plot for "Brokeback Mountain II".

386 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:47:13pm

re: #382 HoosierHoops

thanks Goddess..I appreciate the complement...
I think everyone here thinks you are the bomb..

(blushing) Well, I have been called a firecracker...

387 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:48:05pm

after what the euro have done to my people i don't give tinkers damn what lang. they speak over there whats left fo my family made it out alive and live in america and israel no thanks to the f'''' euro

388 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:48:15pm
389 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:49:05pm

re: #305 JamesTKirk

Have to do something with my high school French. I'm certainly not planning any trips to France.

But they are our ally, this week. Yes no?

390 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:49:38pm

Moonbats attacked a US Army Recruiting office over the weekend. Not reported in the Seattle media.

Domestic attack

A short time ago we responded to threats to our soldiers with a mass rally at the Tacoma recruiting station. SDS led this attempt to interfere with the rights of our soldiers to do their jobs. We stopped them! On Friday they attacked the recruiting station with rocks in a clear and deliberate (yet fruitless) attack of sedition.
391 Killian Bundy  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:49:42pm

Homosexuality – punishable by death?

The Islamic Council, which represents 60,000 Muslims in Norway, is still not willing to say whether it is for or against the death penalty for homosexuals, until the fatwa council has spoken.

"It's very important to have the European fatwa council with us in difficult matters like this. I am not in favour of the death penalty, but there are Islamic texts that various people understand differently. This is why we need to know the attitude of the authority before we make a decision," says Kobilica.

/nevermind what the Norwegian government's policy on the death penalty is

392 Archimedes  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:49:48pm

re: #388 buzzsawmonkey

re: #388 buzzsawmonkey

Barackback Mountain, please.

BarackGotBack Mountain.

393 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:49:52pm

i never did worship them and if the libs do i hope they enjoy the smell when they do there rimming

394 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:51:38pm

MSNBC's Brewer: Does Obama Stand a Chance in the Racist South?

The South is part of the country that’s had to deal with race as an issue for a very long time and often very painfully so the idea that Obama is a black man that may be the next President of the United States has raised hopes among African-Americans tremendously, uh, but it’s also raised a lot of concerns among whites who may not talk about it as a race question but raise lots of other issues that may in some cases be code for race.
395 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:52:29pm

re: #376 Archimedes

I don't let the Times off on this one. They go for stuff like that. Weren't they trying to make the claim that "dealing from underneath the deck", quoted from someone in the McCain campaign, was an attempt to make a connection between OJ and Obama.

This was signed "The Board of Editors" or something, so that nobody's name in particular would be associated with it.

That's their editor's blog, which is located in the dropdown links above. Charles must have put it there for amusement purposes. I go in there an beat up on them frequently, but they rarely allow my comments.

396 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:53:18pm

re: #394 jcm

it’s also raised a lot of concerns among whites who may not talk about it as a race question but raise lots of other issues that may in some cases be code for race.

Because when they talk about drilling for oil, that's just code words for "black men drilling our white women."

/the NYT believes this

397 Maine's Michael  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:54:21pm

Probably been said, and if so, kudos to the original poster.

It was Obama who chose the phallic Victory Column in front of which to appear.

Who is projecting the phallic symbol, Mr. Herbert?

And is it OK if Obama does it?

398 Archimedes  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:54:26pm

re: #389 lifeofthemind


But they are our ally, this week. Yes no?

Sarkosy is pretty cool. The rioting scum are another matter.

399 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:54:48pm

re: #394 jcm

MSNBC's Brewer: Does Obama Stand a Chance in the Racist South?

She has a point; there are still plenty of racist Democrats.

400 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:55:32pm
401 DaChew  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:55:34pm

I heard that Barack Obama can make any woman scream for change.

402 Right Brain  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:55:37pm

Bob Herbert is a generic racist. Without his racial beliefs he must simple glare into the mirror and accept that he really doesn't have much insight to offer us. This he will not do, instead we must suffer through his defense mechanisms, him hoping that others will not notice, but more talented people always do.

403 Thanos  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:55:47pm

re: #337 JamesTKirk

Sorry, man, but when you gotta go, you gotta go.

(Shouldn't they be searching Uranus for poo, not Mars?)

404 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:56:13pm

re: #386 goddessoftheclassroom

(blushing) Well, I have been called a firecracker...

Speaking of firecrackers..
When Jordan got home from Iraq in May he went down to the bar with 1st platoon his second night home.. ( we were all in Oceanside, Ca.)
Mrs. hoopster called him on his cell after a couple of hours and wanted to know when he would be back.. he said something like in awhile..
She goes.. I've been waiting 7 months for you to get home.. If you aren't here in 10 minutes I'll come down there and drag you out the bar in front of your marine buddies by the ear!
He was home in 5 minutes..
/ firecracker x 10000
hahahaha

405 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:57:05pm

re: #390 jcm

I saw a report that moonbats were trying to block the port again this year but only a dozen showed up.

406 Archimedes  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:57:16pm

re: #395 JammieWearingFool

That's their editor's blog, which is located in the dropdown links above. Charles must have put it there for amusement purposes. I go in there an beat up on them frequently, but they rarely allow my comments.

Yes, that's the one. The phrase was "dealing from the bottom of the deck". If the NYTs people really do think that badly and consider making arbitrary connections to be serious thinking, then I'm surprised they are able to survive a day of their lives.

407 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:57:20pm

re: #404 HoosierHoops

Speaking of firecrackers..
When Jordan got home from Iraq in May he went down to the bar with 1st platoon his second night home.. ( we were all in Oceanside, Ca.)
Mrs. hoopster called him on his cell after a couple of hours and wanted to know when he would be back.. he said something like in awhile..
She goes.. I've been waiting 7 months for you to get home.. If you aren't here in 10 minutes I'll come down there and drag you out the bar in front of your marine buddies by the ear!
He was home in 5 minutes..
/ firecracker x 10000
hahahaha

Oh, that's GREAT!

He KNEW that was not a threat but a promise!

408 Maine's Michael  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:57:26pm

The NYTIMES has a lot of chutzpah, of course.

The spin and framing of issues they attempt through the subject choice, phraseology and especially the timing of their news and opinion articles is incredibly obvious. Far from subliminal to this reader.

409 Paul  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:57:54pm

Mmmmmm....Leaning Tower of Pizza.

/Bob Herbert having a Homer Simpson moment.

410 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:58:17pm

re: #391 Killian Bundy

We must respect their culture.
/

411 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:59:25pm

When I look at the image of Obama speaking in front of the Victory Tower in Berlin I don't see any phallic symbols, I just see one big dick.....and it's not the tower.

412 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:59:30pm

BBIAW

413 DaChew  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 4:59:40pm

re: #394 jcm

MSNBC's Brewer: Does Obama Stand a Chance in the Racist South?

Gee, I hope the media keeps calling the people in swing States like Virginia, racists.

414 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:00:09pm

re: #397 Maine's Michael

Probably been said, and if so, kudos to the original poster.

It was Obama who chose the phallic Victory Column in front of which to appear.

Who is projecting the phallic symbol, Mr. Herbert?

And is it OK if Obama does it?

I said it, and of course it's OK if the Messiah does it - he can do no wrong!

Of course, in the case of the Victory Column, the issue is not the erection but who moved it after it was erected.

415 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:00:21pm

re: #394 jcm

MSNBC's Brewer: Does Obama Stand a Chance in the Racist South?

I lived in Massachusetts for a few years in my youth and learned lots of new colorful racial epithets that none of my clingy southern friends could have ever come up with.
Maybe MSNBC's never been to MA.

416 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:00:42pm

re: #405 Killgore Trout

I saw a report that moonbats were trying to block the port again this year but only a dozen showed up.

I knew they where planning something, haven't caught a report.

417 unclassifiable  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:00:49pm

re: #394 jcm

Well it looks like I am going to be labeled a racist no matter what I do because I was born in the south.

418 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:06:05pm

re: #417 unclassifiable

Well it looks like I am going to be labeled a racist no matter what I do because I was born in the south.


Vote for Obama, and purge yourself!
/

419 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:06:30pm

I never set much store by polls, but, take a look at this, just for the giggle factor...
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

420 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:08:13pm

re: #419 CapeCoddah

I never set much store by polls, but, take a look at this, just for the giggle factor...
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

Here's to continuing trends!

421 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:09:25pm

re: #420 jcm
I'll drink to that! I will open a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue... Help yourselves to a celebratory sip!

422 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:11:17pm

Bad day on the mountain.

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan -- At least nine climbers were reported dead Sunday on K2, the world's second-highest mountain, after an ice avalanche crashed down the mountain, sweeping away fixed ropes and leaving some mountaineers trapped in the dark.

Several other climbers were missing, prompting a desperate rescue effort on K2, a peak in northern Pakistan near the border with China that is regarded as more dangerous to climb than Mount Everest.

423 tommygum  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:13:06pm

re: #275 Glen Wishard

Or as Germans call it, Der Grosse Schlong.

Yes, I know that isn't real German. But I've made up more German off the top of my head than most Germans know.

When I visit my cousin in Germany with my bad high school German he refers to my speech as "Billy-Deutsch".

424 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:13:08pm

re: #421 CapeCoddah

I'll drink to that! I will open a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue... Help yourselves to a celebratory sip!

*sip*
AHHHHHH!

My neighbor is a whiskey aficionado, whiskey tastings a 3 week vacation to Scotland and Ireland to visit distilleries.

425 kynna  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:14:17pm

It's obvious that whenever McCain puts out a successful ad it's going to be twisted to be racist by somebody in the Obama flock.

Just like the MSM muddied the water with the Swiftboat Vets by dealing only with the issue of the medals and then calling the entire subject of Kerry's service and post-service behavior 'debunked,' they'll try to change the subject to racism every time.

Thankfully a lot of Americans seem to be on to them.

426 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:14:48pm

re: #422 jcm
I climb myself, but, I have never understood the deathwish of folks who climb K2, Everest and other such mountains. I heard a while ago that there is a 65% chance of DYING while attempting either climb.
I love to climb, but, no death wish here.

427 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:15:49pm

re: #424 jcm
ooh, that sounds like a fun, if not memorable trip!

428 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:16:03pm
429 unclassifiable  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:16:26pm

re: #418 jcm

That's my choices? Racist or Moron?

430 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:16:29pm

re: #426 CapeCoddah

I climb myself, but, I have never understood the deathwish of folks who climb K2, Everest and other such mountains. I heard a while ago that there is a 65% chance of DYING while attempting either climb.
I love to climb, but, no death wish here.

No deathwish here, either, although in my younger, more foolish days I used to rockclimb drunk. In the dark. In the rain.

431 kansas  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:16:49pm

re: #426 CapeCoddah

I climb myself, but, I have never understood the deathwish of folks who climb K2, Everest and other such mountains. I heard a while ago that there is a 65% chance of DYING while attempting either climb.
I love to climb, but, no death wish here.


I read Into Thin Air and got out of breath.

432 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:16:57pm

re: #428 buzzsawmonkey

The north face of Everest is the tough one, so they say.

On the other side there is a Six Flags which will give you a ride to the top, but the line is horrendous.

Expedition Everest is a Disney ride.

433 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:17:35pm

re: #429 unclassifiable

That's my choices? Racist or Moron?

Yep. Racist(D) or Moron(R). Now go vote.

434 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:17:43pm
435 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:18:14pm

re: #428 buzzsawmonkey
LOL, My doctor is an old family friend. He will give me a note to go to the front of the line! (had a client do this when she took her granddaughter to Disney, and she is healthy as the proverbial horse, a Frenchwoman!)

436 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:18:29pm

re: #434 buzzsawmonkey

I'd get Disney if I was that high up, too.

And I'd get high if I were that Disney.

And then I'd tear my own ears off if I got anywhere near Small World.

437 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:19:34pm

re: #430 JamesTKirk
If I even went to the garage drunk in the dark and the rain I would have been killed! lol

438 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:20:07pm

re: #429 unclassifiable

That's my choices? Racist or Moron?

You got it!
LOL!

439 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:20:22pm

I have found brilliance;

Trapped in the Drive-Thru

For anyone who is tired of rap "ballads" which take themselves to seriously

440 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:20:53pm

re: #415 Capitalist Tool

mass.is a blue state.move along nothing to see here!

441 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:21:20pm

re: #431 kansas
That was a horrific story. So unnecessary, for those folks to have to die such horrid deaths just so they could say "I did that".

442 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:21:53pm

re: #433 JamesTKirk

if you really want the donk to win keep this kind of crap up
it just pisses me off there is no perfect cons. even President Reagan made mistakes like not going after hezballah after they murdered americans.

443 lifeofthemind  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:21:55pm

re: #394 jcm

MSNBC's Brewer: Does Obama Stand a Chance in the Racist South?

Because nothing works in closing that deal like the Hey Idiot school of advertising.

444 Boondock St. Bender  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:22:42pm

re: #431 kansas

Watched the everest series on discover and came away convinced that that everyone there was insane exept the sherpas'

445 CapeCoddah  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:24:32pm

re: #444 Boondock St. Bender
You came away thinking correctly. Worst part is, one must"donate" to the Chinese government for a shot at the 65% casualty rate, upwards of 100K per attempt.

446 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:24:57pm

re: #443 lifeofthemind

Because nothing works in closing that deal like the Hey Idiot school of advertising.

How about: Does McCain stand a chance with Liberal Pussies?

447 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:25:08pm

re: #429 unclassifiable

As a primitive stinker I do not care what others may think

448 JamesTKirk  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:25:41pm

re: #442 yochanan

if you really want the donk to win keep this kind of crap up
it just pisses me off there is no perfect cons. even President Reagan made mistakes like not going after hezballah after they murdered americans.

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that
(1) dissention from the party line was not allowed, and
(2) that I had the power to single-handedly determine the election.

My opinion is my opinion. Don't like it? Tough.

My opinion of McCain is the same opinion that was held by the majority of lizards just one year ago. Reality hasn't changed just because he's the GOP nominee and people want to delude themselves that they aren't voting for a shit sandwich.

449 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:26:12pm
Because nothing works in closing that deal like the Hey Idiot school of advertising.

ROFLAMO

450 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:28:42pm

re: #448 JamesTKirk

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that
(1) dissention from the party line was not allowed, and
(2) that I had the power to single-handedly determine the election.

My opinion is my opinion. Don't like it? Tough.

My opinion of McCain is the same opinion that was held by the majority of lizards just one year ago. Reality hasn't changed just because he's the GOP nominee and people want to delude themselves that they aren't voting for a shit sandwich.

ENJOY PRESIDENT OBAMA just don't get the point of repeating the the circular consecrative firing squad thing.

451 opinionated  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:28:47pm

Does seeing a penis when you see the the Washington Monument mean that when you see a penis you think of the Washington Monument?

Seems Bob Herbert has grandiose fantasies.

452 Shug  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:29:27pm

re: #451 opinionated

Does seeing a penis when you see the the Washington Monument mean that when you see a penis you think of the Washington Monument?

Seems Bob Herbert has grandiose fantasies.

something tells me Herbert sees a penis in everything.

453 yochanan  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:29:36pm

re: #451 opinionated

maybe bob just likes c''ks

454 jcm  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:30:00pm

re: #452 Shug

something tells me Herbert sees a penis in everything.

Takes one to know one.

455 sngnsgt  Mon, Aug 4, 2008 5:30:16pm

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