Nice phone.

Still not a cost I can justify. That, and AT&T doesn't work so well in my neighborhood.

First cell phone? Now that's holding out.

Still like Blackberry. (no jealousy here)

Does that "85" mean you have 85 emails?

re: #5 Sharmuta

Does that "85" mean you have 85 emails?

Sure does.

But can you make fake photos with it?

Poor Charles, sucker by Steve Jobs brilliant Evil marketing genius.

re: #6 Charles

Wow! How many of them are nice vs. hate mail?

"shoe Phone"

Please post your signal strength at home and work.

3G reception problems.

There are also reports of cracked cases.

How you held out for so long I'll never know.

You being a muckity muck and all. Here I am just a schlub, I've had one ince 1988.

I probably have brain cancer. You probably don't.

You win.

Does it make calls?

I sense a lightweight, phone-browser friendly version of LGF is now in the works... ;^)

FIRST cell phone? You're one weird dude.

re: #14 stevieray

Heh. Good point.

It slices, it dices, it juliennes!

I just have an iPod touch. I hardly use the cell phone.

Would you consider making an iPhone app for LGF?

re: #16 buzzsawmonkey

If you find this phone in the forest, you know what that proves.

/Michael Behe

It means Steve Jobs suckered Little Red Ridinghood?

The better to see your Paris Hilton drilling video with.

I'm sure those phones are greater than sliced bread, but I absolutely refuse to carry one. I abhor cellphones with a passion, and they've brought me nothing but headache when I've had to have one.

Only thing worse is having to run Windows anything.

re: #13 Killgore Trout

LOL.

It looks too complicated for me. My husband and daughter would love it.

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Heh. Good point.

He only got the phone for testing purposes... yeah, that's it.

Charles .. make a call :)

to me ;)

Are you tempted to hack it yet?

I think I have a cellphone somewhere. Think I used it once.

I can't imagine what's the purpose of these things. I hate the telephone anyway.

Hey, there is a little green footballs icon there.

Step right up

re: #22 MrSilverDragon

My funniest use of a cell phone was when we were at the mall. My daughter and I went to one store and we were supposed to go back to another spot to meet my husband. I got lost (I'd only been in that mall 20 times or more) and had to phone my husband and ask him to come and get us.

Hey, does the iPhone have a compass? If so, I neeeeed one.

Im with the ghetto cell provider, metro pcs. The only thing to recommend it is that there really are unlimited mins. For $53 a month I can talk, text, send pics, surf the net (in a very limited, crappy kinda way) and not have to worry about any extra charges. Coverage isnt great but I dont really travel much. If they really had a flat rate kinda deal I might get one.

re: #33 Josephine

LOL!

Yawn. Dick Tracey had one of these in 1931 after it was invented by Brilliant, the blind son of industrialist Diet Smith.

Personally- I love my cell phone. Free caller ID, free long distance. If I don't know the number, I don't answer. I can turn it off and not deal with anybody. I can leave the house and be available to anyone, anywhere I am. It's also come in very handy at times when I've needed to call 911 to help others in need. One time I witnessed a car accident and the first thing I did was whipped out my cell to get the authorities and assistance on the scene as quickly as possible. Technology and science rock!

What ever happened to the Google operating system for cell phones that was supposed to take on the Iphone?

Stupid is as stupid does.

re: #29 jemima

To communicate ... anyways do you know Mobile popcorn ... and Hoax

anyways i like it Apple iphone style

re: #37 Sharmuta

That's a good point, Shar. My daughter and I both have life-threatening allergies and we need to be able to call 911 if necessary.

I know two people who have just bought one of these. The work well, nice interface, intuitive, and integrates nicely with our corporate exchange server in minutes. Only one drawback, battery life. Both are complaining about slightly less than one day per charge.

My blackberry goes almost a week, but I'm not really a heavy user..

Love the phone, but hate the network. AT&T has more bars, all right...you'll be going to lotsa bars to drink away the feeling that AT&T couldn't build a good crystal set.

And with the 3G speed the new Iphone can finally do what everyone has always wanted their phones to do...
Allow them to watch porn on the train during the commute.

I see new territory being blazed in the realm of public indecency law.

On the matter of cellphones and other high-tech handhelds, let's tell the anti-corporate-socialist embracing-global warmingclimate change fanatical-progressive youths that these i-pods and blackberry's and i-tune accounts will have to be sacrificed to save the planet and promote socialist equality throughout the planet.
After all socialism is the enemy of innovation and technology.

Power to the Correct People!
(They know how the free market works.)

OT. Is that a racist photo on Drudge? Looks like Lord Obama is putting the lip lock on Hilllary.

I finally bought my first about two years ago. I went to Target and bought the cheapest phone they had. It was the Virgin teen (no jokes out there!) special - it took me a week to figure out how to replace the bubblegum rock song that was my ring with something nonappalling.

It cost me about 20 bucks, and I pay about 7 bucks a month for the service. :D Plus, the Virgin operators are all hip as all get out.

#31

Oh pay phones! I forgot about those. We don't have pay phones here. We don't have sidewalks. We hardly have any people so who would we call? There are 127 people in my town. I have DSL though and there is a bear in the neighborhood.

I like to listen in on people's cell phone conversations. You know, standing in line at the supermarket, at a restaurant, bar, etc. I make it a point to look at them, too. Then when they hang up, I kind of lean my head toward the phone caller expectedly, as if he should give me a brief rundown of his conversation and the decisions made therein.

re: #41 Josephine

You don't need an operational cell phone to call 911, it only needs to have worked once.

re: #37 Sharmuta

Personally- I love my cell phone. Free caller ID, free long distance. If I don't know the number, I don't answer. I can turn it off and not deal with anybody. I can leave the house and be available to anyone, anywhere I am. It's also come in very handy at times when I've needed to call 911 to help others in need. One time I witnessed a car accident and the first thing I did was whipped out my cell to get the authorities and assistance on the scene as quickly as possible. Technology and science rock!

Love mine, too. Sprint since Dec., 2000.

Just got my Palm Centro upgrade! Fantastic!

re: #37 Sharmuta

... Free caller ID, free long distance. If I don't know the number, I don't answer. I can turn it off and not deal with anybody. ...

Yes, these and the fact that they are very useful in case of an emergency on the road justify owning a cell phone.

BBIAW...

Another down side of cell phones. In addition to money I now get bumbed for my phone. "Hey man, you gotta phone? Mind if I make a call?"

Kid you not. Happens at least once a month.

What really freaks me out is the bluetooth people. Hard to tell they're on the phone if you see them from the non-bluetooth side- it looks like they're just out and about talking to themselves.

re: #50 likesbrusselssprouts

You don't need an operational cell phone to call 911, it only needs to have worked once.

That's interesting, thanks.

What do you mean by operational? If it's broken, can I still dial 911? Or do you mean if I let my service contract lapse?

re: #14 stevieray

I sense a lightweight, phone-browser friendly version of LGF is now in the works... ;^)

I second the LGF.MOBI concept!

And to Lone Wolf, I agree love the blackberry, I prefer the actual buttons to the virtual ones which I seem to be off 2 places all the time.

Charles, I wish you good luck with your cellphone. Beware of the high cost of data services, and the uncertainties thereof. Here's a really scary audio clip from several months ago - Verizon can't count

I just realized- Charles already pulled LGF up on his phone.

Charles

Welcome to the club. I'll be interested to hear any LGF-iPhone compatibility issues. I don't have a 3G, and long LGF comment threads cause my phone's browser to crash out and default to the menu. Also, the "New Comments" Ajax code causes the browser to return to the LGF homepage. Little things like that. Nothing mission-critical, but there may be some tweaks here and there.

Well, I have a laptop in my truck that lets me use internet and make phone calls and everything on the 3G network from about anywhere. I use Sprint.

Congratulations Charles! It's beautiful. : - )

re: #48 jemima

#31

Oh pay phones! I forgot about those. We don't have pay phones here. We don't have sidewalks. We hardly have any people so who would we call? There are 127 people in my town. I have DSL though and there is a bear in the neighborhood.

Ahhh, but does the bear have his own DSL or is he jacking some else's?

My first cellphone was one of those Motorola flip phones that were about the size of a brick. Worse, all it could do was make (very expensive) phone calls! I thought I held out 'cause I waited until '88 to get one.

Since the I-phones got 3g, I've been eyeing them covetously.

re: #58 abolitionist

AT&T has unlimited data for their iPhone plan :)

re: #48 jemima

There are 127 people in your town? Is a population of 127 enough to call it a town? I can't remember the difference between a town, a reeve and a village.

re: #55 Sharmuta

Bluetooth people look like the Borg.

And, they look kinda dumb to me.

No offense out there bluetooth lizards.

(But, you do look like idiots.)

You need to get the application from Nullriver Software, Net Share, that allows you to tether your laptop to your cell phone to get internet at G3 rates on your laptop where ever you go. Unfortunately, Apple pulled the application so that you will not exceed your "unlimited" data plan...

My Motorola Razr is fine for me. I have a hearing problem and use it mostly for texting, chat, checking e-mail, and occasional web browsing.

Charles, in case you're interested: I have by happenstance very recently come into possession of a first-generation old-skool iPhone. As of right now it has no service plan, so I can't use it to get or make calls or text messages, but I have "jailbroken" it and "unlocked" it, so I may be able to add some pay-as-you-go minutes to it and use it as discussed.

What I haven't yet done is "pwned" it, because it seems a bit too scary and because I don't want to upgrade to 2.0 firmware yet (or ever).

She's a beaut!

re: #56 Josephine

I mean if the cell phone was in use and then you decided to get another model and turned off service to the old one. That's why charities (women's shelters) collect "used" cell phones so they can give them to people for 911 use. They can't dial any numbers, just 911.

re: #72 FrogMarch

She's a beaut!

Beautiful plumage.

re: #11 anand

Please post your signal strength at home and work.

3G reception problems.

There are also reports of cracked cases.

So far I haven't been able to get any 3G at all in my home, even though it's supposed to be in one of the "best coverage" areas. Haven't tried anywhere else yet.

It's not a big deal at home, because I can connect to my wireless office network instead. (Now that I solved the problems I was having.) But I hope AT&T's working on improving their system.

Telephone connection is fine.

re: #49 Noam Sayin'

Sometimes my husband will make comments as if he is the person on the other end of the line.

I want a phone that has crystal-clear satellite TV (for football, weather, and FOX news), shortwave radio, Internet for LGF and a few others, and a weather read-out. Maybe when I'm 89...

What's cool about having even a "non-functional" iPhone is walking down the streets of San Francisco and surfing the net off of the almost continuous cloud of free WiFi hotspots, jumping from network to network as you walk along. Very slick.

Wasn't it cell phones that allowed passengers to know what was happening on United 93, allowing them to take down the terrorists?

re: #77 Timbre

Uh, that's called a computer.

re: #50 likesbrusselssprouts

You don't need an operational cell phone to call 911, it only needs to have worked once.

So.......
you're in a life-threatening situation... how do you call 911?

What does "it only needs to have worked once" mean?

A friend of mine has one -- I was wowed by the photo display. you turn the thing and the photo turns with you. Too cool.

re: #66 Josephine

There are 127 people in your town? Is a population of 127 enough to call it a town? I can't remember the difference between a town, a reeve and a village.

Actually I believe 127 is considered a wide spot in the road...

re: #73 likesbrusselssprouts

That's really good to know; thank you.

I've got an even more advanced version... it has these tiny pieces of plastic called "buttons" that let me use a "keyboard" to type messages one-handed...

Hehe!

re: #60 godfrey

Charles

Welcome to the club. I'll be interested to hear any LGF-iPhone compatibility issues. I don't have a 3G, and long LGF comment threads cause my phone's browser to crash out and default to the menu. Also, the "New Comments" Ajax code causes the browser to return to the LGF homepage. Little things like that. Nothing mission-critical, but there may be some tweaks here and there.

Not sure those kinds of problems are easily fixable. Sounds like memory issues and smart phones by design have limited memory.

Plus it has multi-point touch sensitivity, so you can splay your fingers to enlarge photos and internet screens. The browser display is absolutely superb. I wish they'd add better camera resolution, and at least lo-fi digital sound recording. Then we'd be cookin'.

re: #81 LeePro

If a phone is activated on a carrier's plan, but then you decide to get rid of it and get a new one, therefore deactivating your original phone, it still works to call 911. Obviously you can't make any other calls on it.

I've never actually tested this myself--it's just what I've heard.

What we need next is "satellite phone" capability in an iPhone package -- the ability to make a call from anywhere to anywhere on earth at anytime, without the need for cell towers. Then squeeze one of those Dick Tracy mini-TVs on there and -- poof! -- the tiny machine that does everything.

But will you buy this for your iPhone?

re: #80 fat bastard vegetarian

Uh, that's called a computer.

Yeah, I can see me carrying my laptop on my shoulder like some kind of modern boombox! And my computer doesn't have weather capability...

re: #91 Timbre

Dig it.

re: #77 Timbre

I want a phone that has crystal-clear satellite TV (for football, weather, and FOX news), shortwave radio, Internet for LGF and a few others, and a weather read-out. Maybe when I'm 89...

Are you 88 now. I hear slingbox is working on an iPhone application. That will get you your home cable or satellite or whatever to your phone over the internet...

re: #86 Charles

I hear ya, but I want more RAM, and I'm even willing to pay something for it.

Oh, and the Google map integration comes in mighty handy on these things. With GPS, I'm sure it's even better.

My first cell phone. pic at the bottom
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #60 godfrey

long LGF comment threads cause my phone's browser to crash out and default to the menu. Also, the "New Comments" Ajax code causes the browser to return to the LGF homepage. Little things like that. Nothing mission-critical, but there may be some tweaks here and there.

Charles, I have the same problems. When I got to LGF on my iPhone, none of the Ajax features work. Clicking on "new comments" or or a ding-up button or anything like that just takes me to the main front LGF page and doesn't function as intended. I guess there's nothing you can do about it -- I guess the OS for the phone doesn't agree with Ajax code.

I holding out for iphone 4G and more networks. Should be around christmas time.

re: #97 zombie

The browser on the iPhone is SO annoying sometimes. When I upgraded to iPhone 2.0, it became very unstable... no idea why. But it's quite annoying. I also wish the iPhone browser had flash support.

re: #47 Catttt

I finally bought my first about two years ago. I went to Target and bought the cheapest phone they had. It was the Virgin teen (no jokes out there!) special - it took me a week to figure out how to replace the bubblegum rock song that was my ring with something nonappalling.

It cost me about 20 bucks, and I pay about 7 bucks a month for the service. :D Plus, the Virgin operators are all hip as all get out.

Heh. I had the 15 minutes/month convenience plan for 5 years and never went over. The girl at the phone store was incredulous.

In fact, I'll try it right now.

Gotta say, this is one impressive piece of technology, combined with really solid user interface design. Helluva machine. If I'd seen this 20 years ago I'd have thought it was magical.

re: #97 zombie

Zombie, the weird thing is, sometimes it does work for me. Maybe they addressed some things with updates. But even then, sometimes the New Comments button works, and sometimes it doesn't. For me, it seems to be related to how many times I use it. I've had some luck continuing to use it in a given session, and then it starts to work. That makes me think it might be cache-related? I dunno. Not my line o' work.

re: #104 Charles

Gotta say, this is one impressive piece of technology, combined with really solid user interface design. Helluva machine. If I'd seen this 20 years ago I'd have thought it was magical.

Dont be silly Charles... It is magical.....

Heh. Got two LGFs in front of me: one on my computer, the other on my iPhone. A teeny-tiny LGF. Hello down there!

re: #104 Charles

Well, we wouldn't expect any less from Apple, would we?

re: #55 Sharmuta

What really freaks me out is the bluetooth people. Hard to tell they're on the phone if you see them from the non-bluetooth side- it looks like they're just out and about talking to themselves.

I've often thought that if we put bluetooth devices in the ears of some homeless folk, they wouldn't freak people out as much.

re: #104 Charles

Yes, and to make it more magical, maybe there'll be scanning capacity, and voice recognition. Really max out the features you want to have handy in a portable device ...

SELLOUT!

Kneel before the man.

Very disappointing. Now all you need is a clip-on for your ear.

re: #104 Charles

re: #108 ilovebirds

Apple rocks!

Hmmm, the surfing is still rather slow compared to a PowerBook!

re: #111 Kegel

Very disappointing. Now all you need is a clip-on for your ear.

NOOOOO! DON'T DO IT!

re: #107 zombie

Heh. Got two LGFs in front of me: one on my computer, the other on my iPhone. A teeny-tiny LGF. Hello down there!

Awww, speaking down to us lowly lizards without iphones now are you....

re: #113 zombie

Are you on a Wifi network with your iPhone?

Movies look pretty good on this screen. I threw "Bad Lieutenant" on there to check it out.

re: #111 Kegel

SELLOUT!

Kneel before the man.

Very disappointing. Now all you need is a clip-on for your ear.

Next thing you know, he'll be ditching his amber monitor for one of those new fangled "color" thingamabobs.

It is magical, even now. We've just become inured to magic.

Now you can control the world from the beach.

re: #111 Kegel

SELLOUT!

There was an article recently about the social benefits of cellphones, I can't remember where. One of the arguments was that cellphones basically reincarnated the family campfire. That is, now people communicate with those they hold close much more often than before. And iPhones allow effortless call merging, so it really facilitates small-network formation, etc. So there are trade-offs.

re: #109 Slumbering Behemoth

I've often thought that if we put bluetooth devices in the ears of some homeless folk, they wouldn't freak people out as much.

Not the one I saw last night! She was intent on getting into a building under renovation. I alerted a security guard in the neighboring building, and he called 911, but I guess she wandered off before the police could check up on it. No technology is going to make that woman seem normal.

The only problem I've had with the iphone is that the feedback from texting is all visual. No buttons on the glass surface to feel, and know you're typing the right letter.

re: #114 buzzsawmonkey

I need to get quicker on the draw.

re: #120 zombie

That's not the spirit of the Enlightenment. All this stuff reflects our being able to describe reality as math. Beautiful. Clear. Pretty persuasive, too, though not entirely.

Charles, encountered more evidence that Ajax doesn't work on iPhones (at least with 1.1.4 firmware): when I logged on, on this thread, it took me back to the main page (as all Ajax actions seem to do). I logged on, but didn't stay on the page.

Wish LGF and Instapundit and Pajamas sites were more Blackberry friendly. See no reason to get the Apple phone until I start making money and until it gets cut & paste.

re: #122 godfrey

There was an article recently about the social benefits of cellphones, I can't remember where. One of the arguments was that cellphones basically reincarnated the family campfire. That is, now people communicate with those they hold close much more often than before. And iPhones allow effortless call merging, so it really facilitates small-network formation, etc. So there are trade-offs.

What about those of us with no desire to keep in closer contact with people and arent interested in hearing everyone elses conversations whenever we go out? What about our needs?

Someone who markets a cheap portable scrambler to kill signals with a certain radius will be sitting on a gold mine.

re: #117 ilovebirds

Are you on a Wifi network with your iPhone?

Yup. I'm surrounded by WiFi at all times, like cloud of gnats.

re: #124 jaunte

The auto-correct is also annoying (isn't it always?), although I think you can turn that off. In any case, I haven't been able to increase my text-entry speed.

The iPhone's version of Safari is supposed to support Ajax. I'll be checking out all these issues...

evolved!

Cut and paste -- sigh -- that would be great. With multi-point touch, it seems do-able.

re: #130 zombie

I'm surprised you said it was slower, then... on mine, my iPhone is quite fast on a Wifi network. But if I'm not in range and have to use the EDGE network, then it's painfully slow.

OK, now I'm typing on my iPhone. pretty awkward!

I realize that "Little Green Footballs" is a pretty long term for such a little screen, but "Little...tballs" makes it look like you're watching children's softball.

I've never bought a cell either, don't care for the easy access, yet I've had one or another for way too long...

:/

Cool game that uses the accelerometer in the G3 iPhone.

re: #136 zombie

The iPhone Promo Guy says to relax and Use the iPhorce, Luke. I've seen some people use two thumbs. Don't know how they do it. Haven't been able to trust the iPhorce, either.

re: #138 Orbit Rain

Huh?

re: #136 zombie

They could use a stylus option on the next upgrade. My fingertips are too wide for the keyboard.

re: #132 Charles

The iPhone's version of Safari is supposed to support Ajax. I'll be checking out all these issues...

Maybe the 2.0 firmware does, which is what you have. I'm stuck at 1.1.4, and I've got to stay here, else I may lose my "jailbroken" status.

I do like my Blackberry toy, no sense in having fewer buttons at my age best go qwerty. But the keypad letters are not the same as phone keypad letters so when I get a number like BUtterfield 8 I do not know the numeric equivalents.

There's an iphone app... shazam! I think its called, that recognizes songs and tells you its name, who recorded it, the album its on, etc... You just have to hold it near the radio/tv playing the song. Its pretty cool.

re: #142 jaunte

How dare you suggest that... a stylus on an iPhone would be sacrilegious ;)

Did you download different ringtones yet?

re: #146 ilovebirds

I've consulted with my local Apple guru, and he suggests cosmetic surgery to slim the fingers...

Have you texted yet, Charles?

I want to make my own ringtones, but I'm too lazy.

re: #145 stevieray

There's an iphone app... shazam! I think its called, that recognizes songs and tells you its name, who recorded it, the album its on, etc... You just have to hold it near the radio/tv playing the song. Its pretty cool.

I know -- that's the coolest app ever.

Of course, I personally have no use for it, since I am a human Shazam! app. I can recognize anything.

re: #152 zombie

I'm impressed!

re: #49 Noam Sayin'

I like to listen in on people's cell phone conversations. You know, standing in line at the supermarket, at a restaurant, bar, etc. I make it a point to look at them, too. Then when they hang up, I kind of lean my head toward the phone caller expectedly, as if he should give me a brief rundown of his conversation and the decisions made therein.

I do the same. That's my way of punishing them for their mindless jabbering. They should just shut up already.

I especially hate people who conduct their business at Starbucks while I'm trying to read a book. These loudmouths get all tense and barky. One of these days I'm going to tell them to shut up, loud enough so their client can hear.

I also love it when people give their credit card numbers over the phone. Or let me know when they're going on vacation. Too bad I don't have criminal connections. I could make a nice living.

re: #102 buzzsawmonkey

re: #97 zombie

When I got to LGF on my iPhone, none of the Ajax features work.

Perhaps you got the Trojan model rather than the Agamemnon version.

For some reason, whenever I see the word "Ajax", my mind tends to gravitate first toward Hill rather than Homer.

_{^{Read the Illiad on my outdated little Palm III}}

re: #149 jaunte

Haha. Seriously though, I do think it would be hard to type on the iPhone if one had large fingers. My fingers aren't especially large, but sometimes I have a bit of trouble typing out some words.

re: #151 godfrey

How does one make one's own ringtones?

re: #152 zombie

*bows in awe*

re: #152 zombie

Saw that for the first time the other day, someone said "Hey, what's that song?" I said "No Matter What, by Badfinger." They said, "Hang on a second...", held the phone up, looked at the screen and said, "It's 'No Matter What' by Badfinger.

Sigh.

Its so much easier to not use capitals when typing on an iphone

re: #145 stevieray

There's an iphone app... shazam! I think its called, that recognizes songs and tells you its name, who recorded it, the album its on, etc... You just have to hold it near the radio/tv playing the song. Its pretty cool.

I wonder what it would do if you played it a rap song with samples?

re: #157 ilovebirds

There are how-to's on the net. IIRC, you have to hack the OS so it won't search a certain sound file directory by default.

Do you have a green lizard colored skin case for the phone yet? Time to start that list for Santa.

re: #154 Promethea

Pretend you are writing it down.

Charles,

You do know that sending money to Apple means sending money to Al Gore and the Saudis?

re: #162 bloodnok

I wonder what it would do if you played it a rap song with samples?

Ever seen Scanners?

re: #161 zombie

Or punctuation ;)

re: #163 godfrey

Ah, I see...

re: #167 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOVED MICHAEL IRONSIDE IN THAT MOVIE!

Zombie, that's where multi-point seems like a natural fit. You hold down one point, and use the other finger to specify another. Shift, type. Same for cut/paste. Hold down a function key, drag the other finger, release, and select the right option.

re: #168 ilovebirds

Or punctuation ;)

Yeah, punctuation and numbers are even worse, but I was tired of picking out the letters so I stopped typing. (I'm on the computer for this comment).

re: #148 buzzsawmonkey

What charming timewarp are you living in that you get a phone number with a named exchange? They've been history for at least 30 years.

1. Get numbers all the time from adverts that are spelled,
2. I am conservative I use exchanges.

re: #166 lifeofthemind

Charles,

You do know that sending money to Apple means sending money to Al Gore and the Saudis?

And Bill Gates as well, can't forget him.

re: #171 godfrey

Zombie, that's where multi-point seems like a natural fit. You hold down one point, and use the other finger to specify another. Shift, type. Same for cut/paste. Hold down a function key, drag the other finger, release, and select the right option.

Well, I've only used this for less than an hour so far, so I am a newbie on 99% of the functions.

Don't forget the car kit!

re: #166 lifeofthemind

Charles,

You do know that sending money to Apple means sending money to Al Gore and the Saudis?

It sends money to me to...
My company supplies Apple, we've got a chip in every Apple product.

re: #175 zombie

No, no. These functions don't yet exist, afaik. I'm just sketching out how they might could work.

re: #174 Slumbering Behemoth

NO, SAY IT ISN'T SO! I love Apple and am in denial about their left-wing leanings...

re: #166 lifeofthemind

Charles,

You do know that sending money to Apple means sending money to Al Gore and the Saudis?

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funnels money to all sorts fo dodgy moonbat schemes.

There's no escape...

re: #179 ilovebirds

It is so. Bill owns stock in Apple.

re: #178 godfrey

No, no. These functions don't yet exist, afaik. I'm just sketching out how they might could work.

Ah, I see. I was wondering where the "command" button was. :(

It would be fun to say something nasty, but my reaction is good honest envy. I can't afford one, and I have no need for one. Enjoy!

re: #181 Slumbering Behemoth

LOL I actually didn't know that. Kind of ironic, isn't it?

re: #180 zombie

Yep, all that money he made selling M$ he now gives to Africa.

re: #145 stevieray

There's an iphone app... shazam! I think its called, that recognizes songs and tells you its name, who recorded it, the album its on, etc... You just have to hold it near the radio/tv playing the song. Its pretty cool.

Something similar is available on other phones too. My daughter has that feature and she uses a Palm Centro phone.

re: #182 zombie

I'm just ahead of the Curve, bro. When you see Godfrey, you see the Future.

/

re: #180 zombie

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funnels money to all sorts fo dodgy moonbat schemes.

There's no escape...

Never! I will not assimilate!

Charles has fallen silent -- I suspect he is either learning of his iPhone's magnificent capabilities, or trying to figure out why Ajax isn't working right on micro-LGF.

re: #189 lifeofthemind

You already have.

re: #183 buzzsawmonkey

Their slogan on NPR--something about a green and peaceful world, or something--is an emetic to rival ipecac.

I want a world aflame with the fires of industry!

re: #172 zombie

Yeah, punctuation and numbers are even worse, but I was tired of picking out the letters so I stopped typing. (I'm on the computer for this comment).

That's why you need to know this shorthand.

re: #190 zombie

Charles has fallen silent -- I suspect he is either learning of his iPhone's magnificent capabilities, or trying to figure out why Ajax isn't working right on micro-LGF.

Or he is being assimilated into the Collective.

re: #190 zombie

I suspect the former because of the amazingness of the iPhone. When I first got mine, I was obsessed with it. I even slept with it. I actually still do sometimes.

re: #185 ilovebirds

LOL I actually didn't know that. Kind of ironic, isn't it?

A little ironic, but it makes good financial sense. MS does make software for the Mac, after all.

Sadly, I must dash off to another banquet. Cheerio, peons!

You Still Can't Write About Muhammad

Starting in 2002, Spokane, Wash., journalist Sherry Jones toiled weekends on a racy historical novel about Aisha, the young wife of the prophet Muhammad. Ms. Jones learned Arabic, studied scholarly works about Aisha's life, and came to admire her protagonist as a woman of courage. When Random House bought her novel last year in a $100,000, two-book deal, she was ecstatic. This past spring, she began plans for an eight-city book tour after the Aug. 12 publication date of "The Jewel of Medina" -- a tale of lust, love and intrigue in the prophet's harem.

It's not going to happen: In May, Random House abruptly called off publication of the book. The series of events that torpedoed this novel are a window into how quickly fear stunts intelligent discourse about the Muslim world.

Random House feared the book would become a new "Satanic Verses," the Salman Rushdie novel of 1988 that led to death threats, riots and the murder of the book's Japanese translator, among other horrors. In an interview about Ms. Jones's novel, Thomas Perry, deputy publisher at Random House Publishing Group, said that it "disturbs us that we feel we cannot publish it right now." He said that after sending out advance copies of the novel, the company received "from credible and unrelated sources, cautionary advice not only that the publication of this book might be offensive to some in the Muslim community, but also that it could incite acts of violence by a small, radical segment."

/surprise, surprise, what the hell were they thinking?

re: #197 Slumbering Behemoth

Sadly, it does. I suffer with Office for Mac (it's SO slow because it runs through Rosetta) and I live for the day I can get rid of it.

My first cell phone was handed to me by a contractor who insisted that he was to be informed of every decision I made on the job and and that he, not I, was to do all the procurement of materials. Shortly thereafter he went broke, disappeared and left the soon inactive cell phone as a lovely parting gift. Six months later I got tired of it wasting space in my desk drawer and took it to the local Cingular store to find out if it had been reported lost or stolen. It had not, so I bought a months worth of minutes and have been saddled with an electronic chain yanker ever since.

While I will admit that having it has come in handy on one or two occasions, I do not love it. If every cell phone on the planet were to disappear I would not grieve and I believe that every car should be equipped with a device that disables cell phones while the engine is running.

If this is the law then the law is an ass.

Shasta's Live Testimony 'Necessary'

The new order shows the judge had previously decided to close the courtroom but not require closed-circuit TV testimony, but is now considering doing both because Duncan is now acting as his own attorney – meaning he potentially could cross-examine his young victim. The federal law on child victim testimony specifically excludes a defendant representing himself from being in the same room with the child while she testifies via closed-circuit TV, though there would be video link-ups.

This fuck repeated raped young Shasta, killed her brother in front of her, and murdered her family when he kidnapped her. I realize the accused has the right to confront his accuser. Some common sense exception need to be made. This is one of them.

Duncan is dead cold guilty, he was caught with Shasta, and showed authorites where her brother was.

re: #193 reine.de.tout

4COL 831 BB4N

Seriously class, now listen up I said, oh put that down for heaven's sake this is serious.

It's the Saudi Prince that I worry about more than the enormous American or the Bespectacled One. The last puzzles and worries, the middle infuriates and profits from ignorance and scams, the first funds death and terror and hate.

my very first cell phone

WOW. Then again, if I didn't have a kid that I insist on knowing where she is* (and a mother who insists on knowing where I am*) I don't suppose I would have ever bothered to buy one either.

/ *Control Freaks 'R Us™...

re: #88 likesbrusselssprouts

If a phone is activated on a carrier's plan, but then you decide to get rid of it and get a new one, therefore deactivating your original phone, it still works to call 911. Obviously you can't make any other calls on it.

I've never actually tested this myself--it's just what I've heard.

Hmmm. Problem with this is you would still need to have a charged battery and be carrying it with you. How many people are going to do that just for the ability to call 911 with no other functions? Dunno.

Ever since stopping trauma call, I ditched the cell phone.

This does look pretty cool, but having that thing attached to me 24-7, and having it become the Pavlovian monkey on my back every time it would ring was more of a burden than being incommunicado.

It ruled my life.

I hated it.

Apple beware: A cell phone in the hands of Charles Johnson can be a dangerous thing. There code is no longer safe.

Texting = Instant Messaging with a teeny tiny keyboard.

re: #203 likesbrusselssprouts

4COL 831 BB4N

I had to go look it up for translation, lol!

Jorline, good evenin' to ya!

Just found out my brother got a job with Lions Gate Films, so I'm the only Lizard I know who has a family member working for LGF.

Ok, is there anybody lurking that like me, does not know what in hell they are all talking about?

re: #210 jorline

Texting = Instant Messaging with a teeny tiny keyboard.

AKA Look where the hell you're walking dipshit.

Anyone remember Ignatowski & phone numbers?

re: #212 reine.de.tout

Jorline, good evenin' to ya!

{reine} you've got mail

re: #214 opnion

We're talking about the greatest device ever created, the iPhone :)

Bet Charles is reading the comments on his phone>

re: #213 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just found out my brother got a job with Lions Gate Films, so I'm the only Lizard I know who has a family member working for LGF.

Congrats to your brother. Can he get us discount tickets?

re: #214 opnion

Hello, tap, tap, tap? Anyone home? ;)

iPhone3G

/will it blend?

re: #217 jorline

{reine} you've got mail

I got it earlier, thanks.

re: #208 formercorpsman

It ruled my life.

I hated it.

That's why I leave mine off most of the time. And only a handful of people know the number. The idea of being available to anyone anywhere 24/7/365 still gives me the willies.

re: #215 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

AKA Look where the hell you're walking dipshit.

LMAO...sorry, texting I don't understand...just call the friggin person.

Charles,

Welcome to the dark side. If it makes you feel any better, it's been that kind of week for me too:

Succumbed and bought a Prius yesterday as I drive over 125 miles per day. Now the truly scary part..I bought an ipod classic today just because the car has a built in jack for the thing.

I have never owned a single Apple product in my life, and I'm an IT guy. Now it looks like I have to find a hard drive to dump all of my cd's into so I can then transfer them to the ipod if I can figure out how to use itunes.

VPN networks across the globe...no problem. Developing software and hosting all sorts of cool equipment at our colo facility for the healthcare industry...no problem.

ipod...I'm scared. Hold me.

So the evolutionary impact of the iPhone will be that we will all end up with really skinny but powerfully quick thumbs and myopia.

re: #219 snowcrash

Bet Charles is reading the comments on his phone>

Will we need to use a bigger font so he can see them?

re: #207 buzzsawmonkey

I have no idea what you are talking about, but the rhythm is poetic.

Apple investor is the same Saudi Prince Rudy Giuliani told to get stuffed.

re: #220 USBeast

Congrats to your brother. Can he get us discount tickets?

LOL, no clue yet as to what he's doing for them. Its his first real job besides seasonal or limited project work. About time his degree from UCLA film school did him some good.

re: #227 mfarmer1

iPods are amazing and you will love yours :)

re: #226 jorline

LMAO...sorry, texting I don't understand...just call the friggin person.

The kids like texting because they can "talk" to several people at one time.

Whereas when I was 16, I was happy to be tethered to the wall phone in the kitchen, the only phone in the house, talking to one person at a time.

re: #225 Lynn B.

That's why I leave mine off most of the time. And only a handful of people know the number. The idea of being available to anyone anywhere 24/7/365 still gives me the willies.

I had a GF once that wanted me to carry a pager. We don't see each other anymore.

In case you're jealous, don't be: I'm not a guest at the banquet, but rather the table itself. Here I am at work.

re: #233 ilovebirds

iPods are amazing and you will love yours :)

True. I love my ipod, on my 3rd one now.

re: #218 ilovebirds

We're talking about the greatest device ever created, the iPhone :)

Beats the wheel huh? I used to work for a software company.
I would go in & hit all the buzz wiords. "Automate your business, functionality, a robust suite" Then a techie would come in & clean up my mess. It actually worked.

re: #225 Lynn B.

Lynn, it was terrible.

It would ring constantly. Even when I would not be on call, I could be at dinner in Delaware on the weekend, and have to run 45 miles into Pennsylvania for a problem at one of our hospitals.

It was to the point, I would get that pain in my gut as soon as it rang.

Your FIRST cellphone!?!? Dude... how did you exist? Especially in the music scene...

test

re: #222 likesbrusselssprouts

Hello, tap, tap, tap? Anyone home? ;)

Not here.

re: #238 buzzsawmonkey

Don't knock it till you've tried it.

re: #236 zombie

In case you're jealous, don't be: I'm not a guest at the banquet, but rather the table itself. Here I am at work.

Is that KIPPERED SALMON!?

/I'm impress!
;-)

re: #237 reine.de.tout

I'm on my second one. It's a pink Nano. I also have an iHome to go with it.

Movies, music, the Internet, wherever you get cell reception. I have 3 pages of web apps and am addicted to this phone. It allows me to leave my mac book at home most of the time now. It syncs up all of your photos, movies, contacts, and texting has become a breeze as it remembers words you use often and completes them for you by just hitting the space bar. It spell corrects on the fly too. I bought the original for $500 and have never regretted it. With 3G and the price at $199 it's a steal. Finally even though all cell companies suck, I do find that AT&T is the best of the dirty bunch.

Enjoy, it gets easier to use with in a few weeks. Start downloading the free web apps. A google search will bring you to some great stuff.

re: #208 formercorpsman

Ray Bradbury wrote a short story back in the fifties called "the Murderer," about a man who went crazy and 'killed' his radio by spooning chocolate ice cream into it, because he couldn't stand everyone being in constant touch. I don't know how he was able to foresee cellphones, but it was the first time I've seen a story about their psychological effects.

re: #230 lifeofthemind

Is he the same one who stopped Alms for Jihad as well?

re: #234 reine.de.tout

The kids like texting because they can "talk" to several people at one time.

Whereas when I was 16, I was happy to be tethered to the wall phone in the kitchen, the only phone in the house, talking to one person at a time.

I know the kids at work text non-stop...and my 14 yo just started on Monday...lol

Or you had a party line...may not like how's on the line with you but it worked.

re: #241 kickstar1

See #15

re: #234 reine.de.tout

The kids like texting because they can "talk" to several people at one time.

Whereas when I was 16, I was happy to be tethered to the wall phone in the kitchen, the only phone in the house, talking to one person at a time.

Of course you need to keep your messages separate, like the story of the guy who gets a text from his girlfriend saying her parents are going to be out, then he texts back telling her all the kinky plans he has for them, only to then receive a call from her Mom thanking him for the kind text but they've decided to stay home for the evening and have a talk with their daughter.

re: #214 opnion

Ok, is there anybody lurking that like me, does not know what in hell they are all talking about?

Yes, there is.
But we won't name names, will we?

re: #236 zombie

In case you're jealous, don't be: I'm not a guest at the banquet, but rather the table itself. Here I am at work.

That settles it, I am now officially in love with a zombie.
/

re: #236 zombie

Oh get out here, you really do that?

re: #254 wolfie

Yes, there is.
But we won't name names, will we?

Bless you

I love texting.

re: #236 zombie

In case you're jealous, don't be: I'm not a guest at the banquet, but rather the table itself. Here I am at work.

Looks like clean indoor work, spend 6 years at University to get there?

Is this where a gentleman offers a lady a towel?

re: #251 jorline

I know the kids at work text non-stop...and my 14 yo just started on Monday...lol

Or you had a party line...may not like who's on the line with you but it worked.

fixed...pimf

re: #248 jaunte

Well, I make sure my wife has one.

It has crossed my mind to maybe get another because there are times when I could obviously use one.

But it really just became a huge burden.

re: #250 formercorpsman

Is he the same one who stopped Alms for Jihad as well?

Who the Prince? If he stopped anything it was a publicity stunt

re: #236 zombie

That's good.

And some dipshit moonbats will be looking for topless women covered in sushi armed with a camera at the next protest. Well at least you found a way to blend in.

re: #231 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOL, no clue yet as to what he's doing for them. Its his first real job besides seasonal or limited project work. About time his degree from UCLA film school did him some good.

Well, good on him. I wish him the best and I hope he is able to support you and the rest of his extended family in the manner they'd like to become accustomed to...and get us discount tickets.

re: #261 buzzsawmonkey

buzz....

Canada Bus Beheading Suspect Says Three Words to Judge: 'Please Kill Me'

To bad Canada won't oblige.

re: #262 formercorpsman

I've only had one for a few years, and I keep it silent or turned off.
However, it did help save my life one day so it's good to have just in case.

I've been enjoying my iPhone 3G for a couple weeks now.

One slightly annoying feature is trying to check the GPS while being interrupted by passing wi-fi networks...

It's like pocket wardriving.

re: #225 Lynn B.

That's why I leave mine off most of the time. And only a handful of people know the number. The idea of being available to anyone anywhere 24/7/365 still gives me the willies.

Me too.
I got my first cellphone a year and a half ago when my daughter started driving. No one outside of my family knows my number.

I've never liked any kind of telephone, to be honest. Somewhere CS Lewis explained his hatred of telephones in terms I appreciate.
He said that receiving a phone call is like having the mailman jump through your window, shove a letter in your face, and demand that you read it NOW.

People think I'm anti-social. Sigh.

Charles -- Watch out for your thumbs while texting. If you press too hard, and too fast, you can get tendonitis.

I got tendonitis from a plain old PC keyboard -- that was made in Russia, of all places.

re: #222 likesbrusselssprouts

Hello, tap, tap, tap? Anyone home? ;)

Ya know what, I had to come back. That was just a little snarky.

re: #268 jcm

Heck, I'd be willing to oblige him. What a disgusting person.

re: #264 lifeofthemind

No, there was one who was able to stop Cambridge Press from printing a book.

I'm another weirdo who doesn't have a cell phone and has no desire for one. Yes, it's been an annoyance to friends and family but tough nookies. I loathe having to talk to people who are on a cell. They invariably sound like crap.

re: #272 Mardukhai

Haha Russia! How incredibly random.

re: #236 zombie

In case you're jealous, don't be: I'm not a guest at the banquet, but rather the table itself. Here I am at work.

I so desparately am searching for a picture of Meatloaf in Rocky Horror Picture Show as the table....

darn.

re: #233 ilovebirds

iPods are amazing and you will love yours :)

I've stared at it a few times in the Best Buy bag today, but it's still there. Baby steps.