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Random House Afraid of Religion of Peace

Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:27:59 am PDT

Book publisher Random House has joined the ranks of Westerners who censor themselves out of fear of Islamist violence: Shades of the Danish Cartoons: Random House in disgrace.

Although it has for some time been a division of German media giant Bertelsmann, Random House has been one of the distinguished names in American publishing since the halcyon days of Bennett Cerf. So it is particularly repugnant to see the company knuckling under to essentially the same reactionary, anti-democratic, anti-free speech forces that repressed the Danish cartoons. As we learned in the Wall Street Journal today, the company has decided not to publish Sherry Jones’ historical novel “The Jewel of Medina” about Mohammed’s child bride Aisha. The book was part of a $100,000 two-book contract with the author.

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1 debutaunt  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:29:02am

Don't be rude to rude people.

2 Mardukhai  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:29:20am

What did you expect? Courage?

3 noshariaincanada  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:29:23am

RopMA

4 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:29:37am

Look on the brights side.

Said alway complained that the West looked at the Levant as "exotic," etc. Sexualizing and the like.

Now we won't.

They shouldn't print 1001 Arabian Nights then either, I suppose.

5 Peacekeeper  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:30:04am

Pocket change to a Saudi Prince...

6 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:30:17am

House of War.

House of Islam.

House of Random obviously does not want to be in House of War.

7 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:30:38am
As we learned in the Wall Street Journal today, the company has decided not to publish Sherry Jones’ historical novel “The Jewel of Medina” about Mohammed’s child bride Aisha.

Embarrassment Will Bring Victory.

8 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:30:39am

What? She's going to give new meaning to the term Pedophile?

9 Mardukhai  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:31:21am

She should have written a book about Safiya, the Jewish woman he "married" while still soaked in the gore of her husband, brothers, and father.

10 CapeCoddah  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:32:20am

It is this kind of PC cowardice that is doing the most damage to the United States. We have been in a frightening decline freedom wise ever since speaking the truth became "mean" or "insulting". I will never purchase a Random House publication again, unless they find their balls.

11 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:32:38am
The “credible” source was one Denise Spellberg, a University of Texas academic who, on receipt of Jones’ galleys, started tattling like a six-year old to Muslims Spellberg felt would be angry with the work.

UGH!

Like I said a few days ago, it's NEVER THE ONES WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OFFENDED ACTUALLY BEING OFFENDED.

Enough of this "being offended for other people" BS!

Do you actually think Joos gave a shit that there wasn't a Menorah next to the Christmas tree in effen KENTUCKY?!?!?!?

12 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:32:42am

re: #9 Mardukhai

The Devil made him do it.

13 troonbop  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:33:22am

"one Denise Spellberg"

IN a story i read, this academic was saying that the author should not mock a religious tradition, or some such nonsense. It's amazing to watch the university establishment suddently discover religious sensitivity. Ms. Spellberg thinks she can buy fatwah insurance; she can't.

14 sealizard  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:33:44am

I'm buying stock in the bus-manufacturing company.

15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:33:50am

Books which Random House did choose to publish:

The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How The War on Terror Turned into a War on American Ideals

The Audacity of Hope, Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream

The Great Derangement: A Terrifying True Story of War, Politics, and Religion at the Twilight of the American Empire

16 Nevergiveup  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:34:05am

This is what happens when formally American Companies are now owned by overseas conglomerates. I guess this Bud ain't gonna be for you much longer!

17 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:34:43am

The question I would have now is will they allow her to take the book to another publisher, or will they retain the contract and just not publish?

18 NoSubmission  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:35:22am

I've worked at Random House over the years. I even got a glimpse of Salman Rushdie's top secret tour schedule for the book that followed The Satanic Verses. The security and cost involved was something out of a 007 film. In back doors, private jets, in through kitchens out through dry cleaners.

They are caving in to thuggish threats and I'm pretty disgusted by this lastest BS. REALLY DISGUSTED!

19 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:35:28am
20 jaunte  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:35:42am

Denise Spellberg is a rabble-rousing busybody.

21 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:36:05am
22 NoSubmission  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:36:21am

Doubleday who published Nancy Pelosi's latest literay bomb, like Random House is owned by Bertlesman.

23 see bs  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:36:46am

Well it looks like the religion of pieces still hates the truth, and the truth has a price.

Sigh....

24 jpkoch  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:37:02am

re: #16 Nevergiveup

This is what happens when formally American Companies are now owned by overseas conglomerates. I guess this Bud ain't gonna be for you much longer!


This Stella's For You!

25 Silhouette  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:37:14am

They released the following statement:

"It is out of respect and tolerance that we freely choose not to publish... OMG, is that a knife?! We said we'd obey! Please don't hurt me! Oh, my mistake. Just some light reflecting off the mic. Heh. Now where was I?"

26 NoSubmission  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:37:35am

PIMF
Literary!

oy!

27 Nevergiveup  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:38:01am

re: #24 jpkoch

This Stella's For You!

Give me a Sam Adams or Coors!

28 Silhouette  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:39:04am

re: #11 Ben Hur

All the Mexicans I know absolutely love Speedy Gonzalez. But others were offended for them and he is all but gone now.

29 CapeCoddah  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:39:30am

re: #21 Ben Hur

CHicks tend to over-react.

LOL, what an idiot. If I did that ever ytime I hit a bird, I would be locked in a padded room.

30 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:40:07am

re: #18 NoSubmission

I was on vacation last week so I missed your recent posting: Stop the War On Iran Protest Times Square

Great job, as usual.

31 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:40:07am

re: #16 Nevergiveup

This is what happens when formally American Companies are now owned by overseas conglomerates. I guess this Bud ain't gonna be for you much longer!

Bad example. Overseas influence (Belgian, IIRC) could do nothing but help Anheuser Busch.

32 Iron Fist  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:40:49am

re: #15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Perhaps we should, I don't know, write them a strongly worded letter. Or decapitate some of their board members. Whichever will get the most results.

33 Nevergiveup  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:40:54am

re: #29 CapeCoddah

LOL, what an idiot. If I did that ever ytime I hit a bird, I would be locked in a padded room.

Personally. I think padded rooms have gotten a bum rap!

34 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:41:12am

Politics, Gender, and the Islamic Past: The Legacy of 'A'isha Bint Abi Bakr

This is the name of Spellberg's book.

SHE OBVIOUSLY DID IT TO CUT OFF ANY COMPETITION.

35 CapeCoddah  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:41:42am

re: #28 Silhouette

You can no longer find all of the great old WB Bugs Bunny cartoons, they are considered politically incorrect, violent and racist. Such a shame. I let the granddaughter watch the ones I can find on youtube.

36 Ford_Prefect  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:41:42am

re: #29 CapeCoddah

LOL, what an idiot. If I did that ever ytime I hit a bird, I would be locked in a padded room.

Massachusetts should pay you to hit those rats-with-wings called seagulls.

37 Nevergiveup  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:42:23am

re: #31 CyanSnowHawk

Bad example. Overseas influence (Belgian, IIRC) could do nothing but help Anheuser Busch.

Now batting 4th for The St. Louis Belgian waffles?

38 vxbush  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:42:34am

You would think all these publishers were based in Canada or the UK. Sigh.

39 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:42:51am

Or she could be like this lady:

RAINBOWS ARE A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY!

What do they put in our water that you see RAINBOWS!?!?!?!

40 Cathy in Northern Virginia  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:42:52am

OT

Wafa Sultan is on video at the top of jihadwatch.org
and the video is good. Maybe you want to display it
here.

41 NoSubmission  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:43:26am

re: #30 Ringo the Gringo

I was on vacation last week so I missed your recent posting: Stop the War On Iran Protest Times Square

Great job, as usual.


Hey Ringo! Hope you had a nice Obama-free vacation.
Thanks a lot! some good shots there if I don't say so myself.

42 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:43:31am

re: #37 Nevergiveup

Now batting 4th for The St. Louis Belgian waffles?

Mmmm! Belgian waffles.

43 CapeCoddah  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:43:35am

re: #36 Ford_Prefect
Those bastards take out windshields. I have a younger sister who has never been too bright, in fact she is as dumb as a stump. She used to call them "Eagles from the dump".

44 RedPepper  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:43:48am

“In our country the lie has become not just a moral category but a pillar of the State.”

~ Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn

;

“In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

~ George Orwell

45 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:44:12am

re: #37 Nevergiveup

Now batting 4th for The St. Louis Belgian waffles?

What was your point? I got distracted by the food reference.

46 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:44:45am

re: #34 Ben Hur

Politics, Gender, and the Islamic Past: The Legacy of 'A'isha Bint Abi Bakr

This is the name of Spellberg's book.

SHE OBVIOUSLY DID IT TO CUT OFF ANY COMPETITION.


I thought this what quite the revelation.

47 macbrooks  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:44:56am

While I'm not in agreement with Random House's reasons for not publishing, having read the WSJ article yesterday (I get it at the office), I'm rather glad this piece of pedophilia soft porn isn't hitting the market. As a woman, I can't imagine any nine year old girl considering having the experience of her hymen (at least) broken by a 50+ year old man as "bliss." *shudder*

(Sorry for the horrible visual)

mac :]

48 Nevergiveup  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:45:25am

re: #45 CyanSnowHawk

What was your point? I got distracted by the food reference.

I never really have a point. Who's on first?

49 nyc redneck  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:45:46am

re: #18 NoSubmission

I've worked at Random House over the years. I even got a glimpse of Salman Rushdie's top secret tour schedule for the book that followed The Satanic Verses. The security and cost involved was something out of a 007 film. In back doors, private jets, in through kitchens out through dry cleaners.

They are caving in to thuggish threats and I'm pretty disgusted by this lastest BS. REALLY DISGUSTED!

i'm disgusted too.
this is how it starts. the intimidation and fear so that we slowly begin to give up our own rights, privileges and traditions. it is easier to stop them now before we lose ground and the ropma grows stronger.
they have no intention of ending their demands until they dominate completely.

50 vxbush  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:46:29am

re: #39 Ben Hur

Or she could be like this lady:

RAINBOWS ARE A GOVERNMENT CONSPIRACY!

What do they put in our water that you see RAINBOWS!?!?!?!

Whatever it is, she's had too much of it.

51 Big Steve  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:46:30am

re: #19 buzzsawmonkey

Aishas to Aishas
Dust to dust
If the liberals don't get you
The Mohammedans must lust.

52 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:46:32am

What we need is an effective response. A way to get the product out and allow the lady to make her money that cuts the dinosaur toadies out.

53 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:46:40am

re: #48 Nevergiveup

I never really have a point. Who's on first?

I don't know.

54 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:46:59am

To put it simply, 9/11 WORKED.

55 Iron Fist  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:47:15am

re: #47 macbrooks

I've not read the book, so I can't really comment on it, but that is quite clearly what Mohammedanism teaches about Aisha and Mohammed. Thus, we refer to him as the Pedophile Prophet

56 Nevergiveup  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:47:15am

re: #53 CyanSnowHawk

I don't know.

3rd base?

57 Maximu§  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:47:17am

Let me get this straight...there have been no threats, just "warnings" that threats might be coming?

Sounds like the sick professor, Denise Spellberg, an associate professor of Islamic history at the University of Texas in Austin is the real villain here.

58 Opinionated  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:47:39am

The Religion of Perpetual Threats.

59 Mardukhai  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:48:02am

re: #47 macbrooks

I agree with you -- seems like a really odd and disgusting topic.

60 NoSubmission  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:48:15am

Weird that RH would cave like this when they signed Salman Rushie again for another book.

And reprinted the paperback of The Satanic Verses too.

61 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:48:22am
62 Iron Fist  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:48:35am

re: #54 Ben Hur

It has so far. I wouldn't exactly want to bet on it as a long term policy, though. We'll get tired of it sooner or later.

63 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:48:57am

re: #41 NoSubmission

Hey Ringo! Hope you had a nice Obama-free vacation.
Thanks a lot! some good shots there if I don't say so myself.

Had a very nice 8 days in Kauai.

No TV. No Internet. Just peace and quiet with the wife and kid, in one of the most beautiful places on Earth.

64 lifeofthemind  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:49:06am

re: #47 macbrooks

Point noted. Hate to sound like the ACLU but if we let them set the agenda with the unworthy cases then what happens once the precedents are set?

65 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:49:21am

re: #62 Iron Fist

It has so far. I wouldn't exactly want to bet on it as a long term policy, though. We'll get tired of it sooner or later.


I'd say we're already used to it.

And caving.

66 Ben Hur  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:50:39am

re: #62 Iron Fist

It has so far. I wouldn't exactly want to bet on it as a long term policy, though. We'll get tired of it sooner or later.


It's easier to resist at the beginning than at the end.

67 freods  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:51:23am

Come on now. Let's get this tempest in a teapot over with so American publishers can get back to bashing the Catholic Church. We all know that takes real courage. And besides it is so cutting edge.

68 alegrias  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:51:56am

Surely Regnery or whoever published "Unifit For Command" can take up this "controversial" subject.

* * *

On a related note, German publishers run scared and German bakeries are giving way to Turkish bakeries--in Germany!

500,000 tons of Turkish bread are consumed (weekly? daily? saw this yesterday and forgot already)....need to fact check, but this ain't your Disneyworld Olde Europe, Toto!

No Conquistadores left to fight the Reconquista.

69 snowcrash  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:52:36am

Smart Bitches Trashy Books quote: Random House paid a $100k advance for the work but when UT Professor Denise Spellberg read an ARC, she denounced the book as a “very ugly, stupid piece of work” (note to authors: Don’t ask her for a cover quote. Ever.) and said, “I don’t have a problem with historical fiction. I do have a problem with the deliberate misinterpretation of history. You can’t play with a sacred history and turn it into soft core pornography.”

Wait, wait, before you pound your head on your desk, there’s more. Ms. Spellberg alerted Shahed Amunullah, a guest lecturer and editor of altmuslim.com, who spread the word to a listserv of Muslim graduate students. From there that email appeared the website “Hussaini Youth,” and within three hours, a person published “a seven-point strategy to ensure ‘the writer withdraws this book from the stores and apologise all the muslims across the world.’”

70 Silhouette  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:52:39am

Pre-emptive surrender, I see.

71 Opinionated  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:53:46am

Rage Boy has issued a statement:

"Damn, oh, and death to America anyway"

72 jpkoch  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:53:53am

Ah, now the fun starts -The Battle of the Post-Modern Feminists vs The ROP. I wonder how many of the ladies are being fitted for burkas?

73 CapeCoddah  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:53:55am

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

Hey Buzz, any idea where to find those cartoons for sale? And thanks for the info, I did not realize those things.

74 cookielady  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:55:17am

re: #58 Opinionated

The Religion of Perpetual Threats.

The religion that IS a perpetual threat.

75 MandyManners  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:55:30am

Random House and Denise Spellberg: fucking Whores of the Caliphate.

76 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:56:02am

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

And Disney allows one of their greatest to rot.

77 snowcrash  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:56:39am

re: #72 jpkoch
It's about time too! All feminists should be horrified by Islam, not make excuses for it.

78 Iron Fist  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:00:46pm

re: #66 Ben Hur

That's not the way the US has ever done things, though. we let slavery fester for over 70 years. We didn't get into WWI until it was almost over, we would have stayed out of WWII longer if the Japanese hadn't gotten impatient.

The American people take a lot to get them angry enough to do something. Right now Mohammedans go about their business, calling for the Death of the Great Satan, as though we will actually permit this to happen. And they have some reason to think we will, given that the Democratic Party does want to let it happen.

The Democrats also wanted the South to secceede. That worked out for them.

You and I see the existiential threat of Islam, but the average American doesn't. Yet. I think that will change, probably violently, over the next ten to twenty years. It could happen sooner if the Mohammedans get impatient. Another big terrorist attack like 9-11 could do it.

79 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:01:15pm

re: #72 jpkoch

Ah, now the fun starts -The Battle of the Post-Modern Feminists vs The ROP. I wonder how many of the ladies are being fitted for burkas?

Hey, as long as they don't have to wear a bra under them, they're down with that.

80 jpkoch  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:01:23pm

re: #76 Mars Needs Neocons

And Disney allows one of their greatest to rot.

But you can see a Chevy Chase paramparam name="allowFullScreen" value="true"/paramembed src="[Link: www.youtube.com...] type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"/embed/object" target="_blank">version of it here.

81 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:03:09pm

Only $100k, for two books? They were already stiffing her.

82 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:04:27pm

re: #80 jpkoch

But you can see a Chevy Chase paramparam name="allowFullScreen" value="true"/paramembed src="[Link: www.youtube.com...] type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"/embed/object" target="_blank">version of it here.

Oh, I have a copy of the original on DVD, but it was never officially released.

Chevy Chase, used to like him, now he's just a deranged, mindless clown who fancies himself a political expert.

83 pingjockey  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:04:44pm

Ball-less wonders.

84 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:06:04pm
85 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:06:54pm
86 Throbert McGee  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:07:08pm

re: #47 macbrooks

While I'm not in agreement with Random House's reasons for not publishing, having read the WSJ article yesterday (I get it at the office), I'm rather glad this piece of pedophilia soft porn isn't hitting the market. As a woman, I can't imagine any nine year old girl considering having the experience of her hymen (at least) broken by a 50+ year old man as "bliss." *shudder*

Since the WSJ doesn't say anything about Aisha having been 9 years old when her marriage to Moho was "consummated," I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that the book didn't mention this, either -- but rather added a few years to Aisha's age in order to make the whole thing seem less gross. (It would be quite ironic if this is indeed the case -- since the Islamic history professor would thus have succeeded in obstructing the publication of a book that whitewashes an ugly detail of Islamic tradition... in order to avoid offending Muslims!)

87 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:07:44pm

re: #57 Maximu§

Let me get this straight...there have been no threats, just "warnings" that threats might be coming?

Sounds like the sick professor, Denise Spellberg, an associate professor of Islamic history at the University of Texas in Austin is the real villain here.

Ah, more crap from the liberal looneyland of Austin.

88 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:09:43pm

re: #84 buzzsawmonkey

Zip-a-dee-do-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
If there's a whisper of racism, we'll lock it away
Never again will it see light of day
Zip-a-dee-do-dah, zip-a-dee-ay

We'll sock it away to moulder
It's the truth--it's actual
The culture ne'er will get it back-tual
Zip-a-dee-do-dah, zip-a-dee-ay
Gutting history to get a PC Okay!

I think the greatest shame of this is the fact that the show isn't racist. I guess they're offended at the idea that it shows a slave relationship in a non-violent horrifying light. Slavery was horrifying, but as far as I've read in history, not every slave owner was a monster. In fact many of them paid slaves a certain amount in order to help them pay their freedom.

I think that the people in Song of the South were portrayed with a dignity and style that we could really use in todays film. The slaves in the movie had more dignity that any character in any film right now.

Plus the music and stories of the slave era shouldn't be allowed to just vanish because of some PC bullshit.

89 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:10:46pm

re: #36 Ford_Prefect
Hey!
The seagull or flying rat is Utah's State Bird!
I shit you not!
No pun intended!

90 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:12:19pm

re: #47 macbrooks

While I'm not in agreement with Random House's reasons for not publishing, having read the WSJ article yesterday (I get it at the office), I'm rather glad this piece of pedophilia soft porn isn't hitting the market. As a woman, I can't imagine any nine year old girl considering having the experience of her hymen (at least) broken by a 50+ year old man as "bliss." *shudder*

(Sorry for the horrible visual)

mac :]

Yeah, I seriously doubt she was happy about it, but then she had no say in the matter.

91 cookielady  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:13:35pm

re: #90 Ward Cleaver

Yeah, I seriously doubt she was happy about it, but then she had no say in the matter.

Suffering in powerless silence is the lot of all Muslim females, of any age.

92 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:13:54pm

re: #84 buzzsawmonkey

Buzz,
The Scientists are going to be scratchin they're head a long time once you donate your mind to them!
LOL
Your killin me!

93 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:14:09pm

re: #89 reloadingisnotahobby

Hey!
The seagull or flying rat is Utah's State Bird!
I shit you not!
No pun intended!

There's a SpongeBob Squarepants episode where the squirrel, Sandy, calls two seagulls "rats with wings" (there's irony for ya), then proceeds to beat them up.

94 crown_of_feathers  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:14:12pm

There is nothing that shows us more clearly the alternate universe that Muslims inhabit, than the veneration that Muhammed elicits in Muslims.

To us in the West, this man was a huckster, pedophile, savage murderer of Jews and others, unashamed plagiarist of Jewish and Christian concepts, and possible psychotic.

To Muslims, Muhammed was the "perfect man"

[Link: www.ummah.net...]

95 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:15:33pm

re: #93 Ward Cleaver
You watch Spongebob?
My wife won't let me!
Grand son lives with us!
Drat!

96 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:16:23pm

.......Or South Park!

97 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:16:25pm

re: #89 reloadingisnotahobby

Hey!
The seagull or flying rat is Utah's State Bird!
I shit you not!
No pun intended!

Isn't the mosquito Alaska's state bird? I once knew an older gentleman that had an embroidered patch that said that, on a pair of coveralls he owned.

98 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:16:43pm

............Or Girls Gone Wild................

99 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:17:31pm

re: #95 reloadingisnotahobby

You watch Spongebob?
My wife won't let me!
Grand son lives with us!
Drat!

Yeah, I really like it. Plenty of humor in it that's way over kids' heads. Plus the fact that Sandy is from Texas, and she doesn't put up with any crap.

100 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:17:37pm

re: #95 reloadingisnotahobby

You watch Spongebob?
My wife won't let me!
Grand son lives with us!
Drat!

My kids love it. I think it gets really stupid sometimes. Only current cartoons I like are Danny Phantom, Fairly Oddparents, Phineas and Ferb, and Jimmy Neutron.

101 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:17:59pm

re: #97 Ward Cleaver

If they were just a bit bigger the FFA would require
tail numbers!

102 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:19:05pm

re: #101 reloadingisnotahobby

OOPS!
I meant FAA.............

103 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:21:17pm

re: #102 reloadingisnotahobby

OOPS!
I meant FAA.............

I knew that.

104 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:23:00pm

re: #103 Ward Cleaver

I knew that.

The Future Farmers don't regulate aircraft?

/

105 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:23:52pm

re: #100 Mars Needs Neocons

My kids love it. I think it gets really stupid sometimes. Only current cartoons I like are Danny Phantom, Fairly Oddparents, Phineas and Ferb, and Jimmy Neutron.

We may not being watching them much longer. My girls (four, six, and eight) watch a lot of Disney Channel, and some of the shows are too mature for them. Heck, Hannah Montana (whom they love) is supposed to have a boyfriend in the upcoming season. That's sealed the deal for June, and she wants the cable disconnected.

106 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:24:12pm

re: #104 Mars Needs Neocons

The Future Farmers don't regulate aircraft?

/

Not even ag planes.

107 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:24:58pm

re: #105 Ward Cleaver

We may not being watching them much longer. My girls (four, six, and eight) watch a lot of Disney Channel, and some of the shows are too mature for them. Heck, Hannah Montana (whom they love) is supposed to have a boyfriend in the upcoming season. That's sealed the deal for June, and she wants the cable disconnected.

Ouch. The boyfriend thing isn't an issue for me, but I can see why it would be with girls those ages. Luckily my 4 and 6 year olds are boys. /

108 cookielady  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:25:12pm

re: #106 Ward Cleaver

Crop dusters!

109 likesbrusselssprouts  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:25:43pm

Contact info for Random House for those who wish to express their dissatisfaction, here.

110 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:26:12pm
111 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:26:34pm

re: #106 Ward Cleaver

Not even ag planes.

How about mail planes?

112 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:26:46pm

re: #108 cookielady

The requirements to fly those is a minimum of three loose screws!

113 cookielady  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:27:35pm

re: #112 reloadingisnotahobby

Bwah!

114 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:28:15pm

I'm not sure we should be throwing up such a fuss about this book. I mean it is abhorrent that censorship like this is allowed, but we actually don't know what was in this book. It could have been pornography, it could have been a whitewash.

But, I guess the one thing we should keep in mind is that no organization should act this way in the face of Islamorage.

115 Arbalest  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:50:17pm

Yesterday’s Jawa Report mentions and discusses this little tidbit about how Sherry Jones describes Aisha losing her virginity to Muhammad.

Did Sherry Jones really write this?

Roger L. Simon seems to miss this quote entirely.

Perhaps Random House is rethinking their position for the imagination of Sherry Jones.

Perhaps more than just the historical events are pornographic.

116 Aylios  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:51:10pm

re: #47 macbrooks

While I'm not in agreement with Random House's reasons for not publishing, having read the WSJ article yesterday (I get it at the office), I'm rather glad this piece of pedophilia soft porn isn't hitting the market. As a woman, I can't imagine any nine year old girl considering having the experience of her hymen (at least) broken by a 50+ year old man as "bliss." *shudder*

(Sorry for the horrible visual)

mac :]

My thoughts exactly Mac. This is how this dimwit author described Muh's rape of a 9 year old child: ""the pain of consummation soon melted away. Muhammad was so gentle. I hardly felt the scorpion's sting. To be in his arms, skin to skin, was the bliss I had longed for all my life."

117 looking closely  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:51:39pm

Given what happened to the "Satanic Verses" translators (they were killed), I can't say I entirely blame this lot for their apparent cravenness.

Still, this is like "high noon". If everyone bands together, nobody will get hurt.

118 looking closely  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 12:54:47pm

re: #114 Mars Needs Neocons

I'm not sure we should be throwing up such a fuss about this book. I mean it is abhorrent that censorship like this is allowed, but we actually don't know what was in this book. It could have been pornography, it could have been a whitewash.

But, I guess the one thing we should keep in mind is that no organization should act this way in the face of Islamorage.

As far as I am concerned, it doesn't make any difference what's in the book.

Its a book. . .we don't threaten to kill people for writing books, nor should we tolerate such threats.

Further, graphic descriptions of child-sex are not child abuse, they're simply words.

Personally speaking, I have no interest in reading this book. But I do think the book should rise or fall on its own merits, not on external threats.

119 Tigger2005  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 1:03:20pm

"Forget this revolution stuff. Liberty isn't worth dying for."
/Patrick Henry

"Boys, we're all out of ammo, and the Rebs are coming again. I was going to tell you to fix bayonets and charge, but the Union and a bunch of black slaves just aren't worth dying for. Let's desert and go home."
/Joshua Chamberlain

"I've been to the mountaintop, and I've seen the promised land. But I won't make it there with you because I've received death threats, so I'm quitting this civil rights business to pastor a small church in Harlem."
/Martin Luther King, Jr.

120 jemima  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 1:05:45pm

Three years ago I was pitching a novel to agents and publishers about islam in America and I was told both that one specific agent wouldn't handle it for fear of a fatwa on her (she had grown up in Turkey and knew they are a lovely, lovely people but still knew what fatwa is) and another agent who said my novel only demonstrated the real problem--the fear we "infidels" hold toward islam. Then she trumped me by saying she was in NYC on 9-11. I was only in NY State so that was a losing hand. No one would even consider such a book so actually I'm very surprised Sherry is it got as far as she did. She must have a good agent!

(I told you Buzzsawmonkey, no one in publishing is willing to do what's right re: islam.)

121 eschew_obfuscation  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 1:08:36pm

re: #120 jemima

Three years ago I was pitching a novel to agents and publishers about islam in America and I was told both that one specific agent wouldn't handle it for fear of a fatwa on her (she had grown up in Turkey and knew they are a lovely, lovely people but still knew what fatwa is) and another agent who said my novel only demonstrated the real problem--the fear we "infidels" hold toward islam. Then she trumped me by saying she was in NYC on 9-11. I was only in NY State so that was a losing hand. No one would even consider such a book so actually I'm very surprised Sherry is it got as far as she did. She must have a good agent!

(I told you Buzzsawmonkey, no one in publishing is willing to do what's right re: islam.)

I would wonder if Regnery would handle it?

122 J.S.  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 1:21:49pm

re: #16 Nevergiveup

This is what happens when formally American Companies are now owned by overseas conglomerates. I guess this Bud ain't gonna be for you much longer!

I think you're on to something here -- foreign conglomerates really don't get "free speech" (they don't hold free speech as an ideal to be cherished -- rather it's "we must be politically correct and not upset anyone"), and (possibly) they (the publishing houses) may fear lawsuits (such as what occurs in the UK -- scratch a Muslim and you'll get sued...etc.)

123 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 1:26:30pm

re: #120 jemima

Three years ago I was pitching a novel to agents and publishers about islam in America and I was told both that one specific agent wouldn't handle it for fear of a fatwa on her (she had grown up in Turkey and knew they are a lovely, lovely people but still knew what fatwa is) and another agent who said my novel only demonstrated the real problem--the fear we "infidels" hold toward islam. Then she trumped me by saying she was in NYC on 9-11. I was only in NY State so that was a losing hand. No one would even consider such a book so actually I'm very surprised Sherry is it got as far as she did. She must have a good agent!

(I told you Buzzsawmonkey, no one in publishing is willing to do what's right re: islam.)

Publish it on lulu.com for crying out loud! Come on! I dare you! I double dog dare you!

124 MrTunes  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 1:44:51pm

I sent a message to William Powers, UT President:

Mr. Powers,

Is it normal for members of your faculty to urge private publishing companies not to print things that she (academically or personally) finds offensive? You know by now I'm talking about Denise Spellberg (info below) and the facts that came to light in Asra Nosmani's piece in the WSJ.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

I do not have any relationship with UT (I'm from Arizona) but I love Austin and enjoyed my visit in 2003 for SXSW. I just want to find out what your feelings are on the subject. Perhaps Ms. Spellberg needs to read Fahrenheit 451 again. Either way, UT and the faculty should be embarassed. These kinds of tactics are not right or left - they are just wrong and you know it.
Spellberg, Denise
Associate Professor
Office: GAR 0.138
Office Hours: Spring 2008: TBA
Phone:512-475-7202
dams@mail.utexas.edu

Education: PhD, 1989, Columbia University

125 MrTunes  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 1:50:19pm

Charles, didn't mean to paste the office info, so please delete it if you have to.

126 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 2:55:14pm
127 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 2:55:23pm
128 jenv  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 4:01:12pm

The book is amazing, insofar as at portrays the rape of Aisha by Muhammad as a beautiful thing.

129 jopa416  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 6:21:42pm

Funny how these publishers never seem to worry about offending a catholic, protestant, christian, mormon, or baptist. I guess they are teaching us that violence IS the way to get what you want.

130 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:01:05pm

re: #118 looking closely

Agree with you totally. The book is probably complete trash, but I'm more disturbed by the control and influence the ROPers are exerting on our society. If Random House now has a new policy of "respect and tolerance," can we expect no more books from Fat Ass Michael Moore and Stuart Smalley? No more books on all the Catholic priest pedophiles? No more books demonizing Israel? No more books with titles like "GWB: America's Stupidest President"?

Give me a break. Morons. This is my chief complaint against liberals: they are cowards in addition to being hypocrites. That they think they are "speaking truth to power" when they spout off against non-violent groups is the greatest delusion in the history of the world. Let's see them protest to the ROPers in defense of their various lifestyles (homosexuality, extramarital sexuality, boozing and drugging, abortions, atheism, out of wedlock births, Madonna style couture for the women and girls).

131 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Thu, Aug 7, 2008 11:02:38pm

re: #128 jenv

The book is amazing, insofar as at portrays the rape of Aisha by Muhammad as a beautiful thing.


And see, if the Mohamedians could only read, they'd have known it was a book friendly to Islam. Sometimes ignorance prevents you from knowing who your friends are.

132 sevoguy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 9:06:46am

It's always nice to see the muslims fumbling over the 6 year-old child bride of Muhammad and his consummation of the marriage when she turns 9 years-old.

Any muslims reading this post: Do you want your 9 year old daughter to be degraded by a 55 year-old dog? Yea, yea, yea.........I've heard all the excuses you've given justifying the rape of Aisha.

Here's another one for our lizoids: The Ayatollah Khomeini's 10 year old wife had a miscarriage in France. Does anyone out there have a link to this story. I can't find it any longer. Please post it if you do.

Another very interesting thing I've read about islam from Winston Churchill. Numerous times in his book "History of the English Speaking Peoples" he refers to the muslims as Infidels. It's the muslims that are the true Infidels.

My god is the God of the Christians and Jews. My God is GOD.


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