Wonderful!

Harm still done.

Now sue the "Human Rights Commission" for damages!

I'm very happy for Mr. Levant, but when you think of all the time, money and effort he had to put into defending himself, when he shouldn't have had to in the first place, it's still a very sad story overall.

Human rights commissions for people who don't think im human.

While I love Canada, this is one of the reasons why they're no longer my back up country should I have to move from the good ol' US of A.

What? No reparations? Sue the Drone Thrice miscarried child of Satan! better yet, publish in the USA and tell the "Human Rights Commission" to Take a Flying Leap to Hong Kong! P*** on a rope! play with themselves!

Individual rights - who needs 'em?

re: #7 Conservative in Liberal Hands

What? No reparations? Sue the Drone Thrice miscarried child of Satan! better yet, publish in the USA and tell the "Human Rights Commission" to Take a Flying Leap to Hong Kong! P*** on a rope! play with themselves!

His descendants can sue for reparations a hundred years or so from now.

Where is everyone? I usually can;t get my 2-cents in until comment 150 or so...

I wonder if he can sue his accusers for abuse of process....

re: #10 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Everyone took a break to work at once.

Punished first, acquitted later -- the Red Queen approves.

i doubt the hrc is going away tho.
they will trawl for "violators" less well known and perhaps less able to defend themselves.
the hrc didn't learn a lesson. they will just be more devious.
after all, these make- work, make- trouble a$$holes are gainfully employed and want to keep their jobs, tormenting innocent people.

bravo for mr. levant. he kicked them to the curb.

Hope Mark Steyn comes out well from his similar troubles in Canada.

If you have been reading Maclean's magazine this year you will realize that Canada has such a thing as a Human Rights Court, which is not really a court in a standard legal system, but a court where any individual whatsoever can bring charges that you have somehow written or published hate literature against some group.

Mark Steyn, one of the more colourful and interesting writers to grace the pages of said magazine seems to no longer be able to publish with them after a months long battle over a quote he published in an article from his own book, America Alone. In short form the quote said that Britain would have to become subject to Islamic law because the Muslims living there would not give it up without bloodshed.

A group of Muslim law students in Canada brought charges and in an amazing travesty of justice tried to ruin his career because of perceived bias.

OT -sorry it's so soon-
OT
Here are some rough figures.
-America drives: 1,000,000,000 miles per day
-Gas mileage: 20 mpg
-Equals 50,000,000 gallons of gasoline per day
-3% (max efficiency I've heard) increase in gas mileage from inflating tires: 20.6 mpg
-Equals 48,500,000 gallons of gasoline per day
-Savings if everybody's tires are underinflated: 1,500,000 gallons per day
-Savings if 25% of country is underinflated: 375,000 gallons per day

-Barrels in ANWR (Obama's quote includes all drilling, not just ANWR): 5,000,000,000
-Gasoline from those barrels: 250,000,000 gallons

-Days to equate tire inflation to ANWR assuming everyone's underinflated: 166
-Days to equate tire inflation to ANWR assuming 25% underinflated: 666
-Days to equate tire inflation to ANWR assuming 10% underinflated: 1666

Plenty of room for questioning these numbers. I didn't do extensive research for total accuracy, I just googled the data. Definitely open for scrutiny.

Too bad he can't countersue.

So, how much did it cost Mr. Levant to do nothing wrong?

The mere fact that this man had the burden of defending against this preposterous legal action is a sad commentary.
This is the legal strategy of the jihad to force Western societies into submission. This is a clear attack on freedom of the press & therefore Western Values.
It sounds like the burdens were inverted & this guy had the onus of establishing that what he did is permissible

As Levant himself points out, this is a Phyrric victory, at best:

The two complaints cost Alberta taxpayers in excess of $500,000 and, according to access to information documents, involved no fewer than 15 government bureaucrats. What a scam – on the part of the complainants, who were able to wage “lawfare” against an infidel without paying a cent; and on the part of the HRC, as a make-work project...

Is this a victory? I suppose, in a narrow technical sense, it is. I’m off the hook now for both of the HRC complaints. That’s two legal battles done – though I’m still up to my eyeballs fighting defamation suits and other legal actions that the human rights industry piled on top of these complaints.

But I’ve read the dismissal letter three times now, and each time it makes me more angry. Because I haven’t been given my freedom of the press. I’ve simply had the government censor approve what I said. That’s a completely different thing.

the CHRC ad campaign
(satire)

[Link: cruxy.com...]

re: #9 Cygnus

Sorry, should have used the work "Damages" as in "Extraordinary Pain and Suffering".

re: #14 nyc redneck

i doubt the hrc is going away tho.
they will trawl for "violators" less well known and perhaps less able to defend themselves.
the hrc didn't learn a lesson. they will just be more devious.
after all, these make- work, make- trouble a$$holes are gainfully employed and want to keep their jobs, tormenting innocent people.

Maybe, but in my experience bureaucrats understand the mantra "Don't kill the job." I bet they will be more careful next time. This has to be somewhat embarrassing for them.

re: #12 Iron Fist

Looks like everyone's back!

re: #11 harrylook

I wonder if he can sue his accusers for abuse of process....

Doubt it. The court could have kicked it as a specious suit from the jump.
The fact that they didn't establishes that the court thought that it was a credible action.
I hope that I'm wrong.

re: #14 nyc redneck

after all, these make- work, make- trouble a$$holes are gainfully employed and want to keep their jobs, tormenting innocent people.

Indeed- the bureaucrats must have paper to push to keep their jobs- no matter the bureaucracy. Welfare, schools, "human rights" commissions- as long as they have their pipeline of people to "protect" or persecute, they'll continue to have jobs.

Time to say goodnight, lizards.

re: #16 bosforus

OT -sorry it's so soon-
OT
Here are some rough figures.
-America drives: 1,000,000,000 miles per day
-Gas mileage: 20 mpg

This has been looked at throroughly.

Briefly, the fact is that most Americans are already driving on properly inflated tires, and with gas at $4.00 a gallon, most of the ones that weren't 6 months ago are doing so now. People aren't stupid.

While there may be some people who don't know about this yet, the majority of individuals who haven't already put their tires into spec aren't likely to, no matter what Obama says. . .eg, there are still people who refuse to put on their seatbelts too.

Even in a best-case scenario, this isn't going to save that much fuel.

Even if it *DID* save lots of fuel, that *Still* doesn't justify idiotic policies like not drilling in a postage-stamp sized spot of artic tundra specifically set aside for the purpose of oil exploration.

Let's not forget this may for the Fallaci awards. He has my vote.

I'm pretty sure the CHRC did this so they wouldn't get "outed". KnowwhutImean?

JAFLW

re: #10 Conservative in Liberal Hands

It's approaching 5 o'clock on the East Coast...

JAFLW

re: #28 looking closely

Honestly, I just like crunching numbers, no matter how obvious the result might be. The latest clip of Obama saying we're proud to be ignorant because we're making fun of him for this really irks me because he takes our criticism out of context of his actual quote. Of course inflating tires saves on gas, no matter how insignificantly, but that's not why we're making fun of you!

re: #16 bosforus

I think your gallons of gas/barrel of oil figure is off.

5billion barrels of oil will provide much more than 250million gallons of gas.

19.6 gallons of gas from one barrel of oil.

Is this a victory? I suppose, in a narrow technical sense, it is. I’m off the hook now for both of the HRC complaints. That’s two legal battles done – though I’m still up to my eyeballs fighting defamation suits and other legal actions that the human rights industry piled on top of these complaints.

But I’ve read the dismissal letter three times now, and each time it makes me more angry. Because I haven’t been given my freedom of the press. I’ve simply had the government censor approve what I said. That’s a completely different thing

I've been keeping up with my legal bills pretty well, but I still owe McLennan Ross about $10,000 for their work.

If you're able to help chip in, please do.

I think it would be great if everyone who reads this would show their support by contributing a little something for his legal bills.

Organizations, like this 'Council of Edmoton Communities & CAIR are very litigious and even when they lose they force their target to go through the expense & stress of putting up a defense.
It is way past time to turn the tables on these Muslim "Civil Rights" groups. They need to be litigated against. Bury them with paper.
Let them whine & play victim, it would keep them busy & protect our liberties.

re: #33 CyanSnowHawk

I think your gallons of gas/barrel of oil figure is off.

5billion barrels of oil will provide much more than 250million gallons of gas.

19.6 gallons of gas from one barrel of oil.

Oh crap, thank you! I divided 5,000,000,000 by 20 instead of multiplying! Ha ha, that might make a difference.

re: #28 looking closely

I've been doing tire inflation spot checks in parking lots at work and about town. Honestly, I have not yet seen a single car that has severely deflated tires (to get the 3% boost, you need to go from grossly underinflated to properly inflated). Being very generous, maybe 5% of the cars are in that situation.

Furthermore, the ones who drive most are more likely to have properly inflated tires. So even the 5% estimate overstates the issue.

Now it's time to go on the offensive...

re: #37 DeafDog

Most oil change places check and inflate tires for free these days, too. Been like that for a long time.

re: #32 bosforus

Honestly, I just like crunching numbers, no matter how obvious the result might be. The latest clip of Obama saying we're proud to be ignorant because we're making fun of him for this really irks me because he takes our criticism out of context of his actual quote. Of course inflating tires saves on gas, no matter how insignificantly, but that's not why we're making fun of you!

The "argument" that the Obama campaign is making is silly - the first assertion that Obama mad was that tune ups and tire pressure would roughly equal what we would get from drilling.

They have now stated that any admission that proper tire pressure improves MPG as conceding the entire assertion.

The press is willingly going along.

Obama has yet to defend his first assertion - because he can't.

But like all of these situations he is off of the hook.

re: #32 bosforus

Honestly, I just like crunching numbers, no matter how obvious the result might be. The latest clip of Obama saying we're proud to be ignorant because we're making fun of him for this really irks me because he takes our criticism out of context of his actual quote. Of course inflating tires saves on gas, no matter how insignificantly, but that's not why we're making fun of you!

No, no.

BJO said that inflating tires would save as much gas as drilling.

THAT IS A GROSS EXAGERATION, AND HE KNOWS IT!

The igonorant ones are the ones who are listening to "the Messiah" and taking his word as gospel.

We are a nation of laws being used against us.

re: #20 Occasional Reader

I just saw your post--funny how we picked up on the same thing.

re: #33 CyanSnowHawk

100% underinflated: 183 years
25% underinflated: 730 years
10% underinflated: 1830 years
1% underinflated: 18,300 years

:)

But we shouldn’t be too giddy. Because look closely at what Gundara has said. He didn’t say I was free. He said I merely met his censorship standards, so I may go. Those are two completely different things.

there is justice thankfully. Canada hasnt turned just yet. But this turn is on the way...

Here is his website and his comments...

re: #4 Sharmuta

Precisely. It was not a "victory" by any means...as Ezra himself discusses. (btw, another rant here -- some people suggest that it's just "cowardice" if someone doesn't stand up against the Muslim thugs...well, I beg to differ. Unless you've had 1) legal training 2) an unlimited bank account (independently wealthy), sufficient resources so as to take on the Government of Country X -- that's a non-American country without the First Amendment or Free Speech protections 3) an enormous amount of "free time" 4) don't mind being labeled by your fellow "citizens" as an Islamaphobe and/or "racist" 5) don't mind being daily libeled, slandered and subjected to the periodic death threats/gang rapes/violence, etc., along with all your family members being subjected to a similar scenario 6) possible black listing and loss of job/career/family, etc. Then, of course, you'll take on the Islamic Fascist thugs...otherwise, you'll simply shut up...(and "no," it's not so much "cowardice" as it is common sense if you have the misfortune of living anywhere outside of the United States of America (the greatest, most blessed Nation in the World...bar none.) (A number of years ago -- I could not believe it -- a wretchedly vile, imbecilic "novel" was written, published and held up for "awards" -- yeah, this was in Canada -- and everyone was falling over backwards in its "praise." I'm just surprised the author did not receive a Govenor's Generals' Award -- as I laugh.. Well, just trying writing something even partially "truthful" or (with the slightest insinuation) that Islam is not The Greatest of All Religions the World has ever Known -- and you will be facing 1) A Government Kangaroo Court 2) Fines/possible jail term if you don't pay up the protection Monies 3) labeled racist, Islamaphobic etc. (Of course, to avoid all of this -- it's really quite simple -- you write antisemitic screeds advocating genocide against Jews, Americans, Israelis, castigate George Bush, etc., and then you'll find yourself in an unending flow of cash, compliments and awards...and published everywhere.)

i'm thinking back to the videos of levant facing the troll like "investigator".
he was so outraged to be forced into such a surreal situation.
he annihilated that imbecile w/ his wit and brilliance.
damn. and to think that she was sponsored by the state, w/ the express purpose to deny him freedom of speech.
she should be digging ditches if she wants to be a gov/t worker.
canada would be better served.

re: #44 bosforus

100% underinflated: 183 years
25% underinflated: 730 years
10% underinflated: 1830 years
1% underinflated: 18,300 years

:)

I think I do better than that by walking my son to school instead of making the 2mile loop that I have to drive to get him there. It's about a half-mile walk when I cut through the park.

re: #39 astronmr20

Most oil change places check and inflate tires for free these days, too. Been like that for a long time.

When the Barak statement was first raised, I read on Hotair where they said maybe 1/2 the cars were in need of tire inflation (the math still doesn't add up). No way that's true.

re: #40 karmic_inquisitor

The "argument" that the Obama campaign is making is silly - the first assertion that Obama mad was that tune ups and tire pressure would roughly equal what we would get from drilling.

They have now stated that any admission that proper tire pressure improves MPG as conceding the entire assertion.

The press is willingly going along.

Obama has yet to defend his first assertion - because he can't.

But like all of these situations he is off of the hook.

I love the arguements against drilling, "It would take 5 years, no wait 10 years." So you see it would not help in the short run.
But, wait! lets go for alternate sources even without the technology, yeah thats it.
We could get that oil out of the ground in 18 months or less with a full blown effort. Lets do everything, drill, wind , solar & drill some more.

re: #47 NY Nana

Thanks for the link NY Nana--there's a place at the top of the page to donate through PayPal.

re: #52 opnion

I love the arguements against drilling, "It would take 5 years, no wait 10 years." So you see it would not help in the short run.
But, wait! lets go for alternate sources even without the technology, yeah thats it.
We could get that oil out of the ground in 18 months or less with a full blown effort. Lets do everything, drill, wind , solar & drill some more.

I wish you were right and if this were the 1950s, it would be true. The sad truth is that it will take 10 years - the Environmentalists will tie up everything in court.

re: #47 NY Nana

Here is his website and his comments...

it's nice to see a photo of him smiling.

re: #50 CyanSnowHawk

I think I do better than that by walking my son to school instead of making the 2mile loop that I have to drive to get him there. It's about a half-mile walk when I cut through the park.

Yesterday while looking at Google Earth I learned as a child that via a shortcut my elementary school was only 3/4 mile away as opposed to the 2-3 mile bus ride. Only problem, the shortcut was through a forest. Guessing my parents would have had a problem with that.

re: #49 nyc redneck

i'm thinking back to the videos of levant facing the troll like "investigator".
he was so outraged to be forced into such a surreal situation.
he annihilated that imbecile w/ his wit and brilliance.
damn. and to think that she was sponsored by the state, w/ the express purpose to deny him freedom of speech.
she should be digging ditches if she wants to be a gov/t worker.
canada would be better served.

It was stunning when she told him that he had a right to his opinion!

re: #53 twincitiesgirl

Thanks. He is a hero.

The liberals want to emulate Canada and other European states in so many beneficial ways. They hold up the Canadian socialized medicine as the way they want to take us, and I'm sure the Canadian Censorship Commission would have a US counterpart as soon as they can get one set up.

If we were to drill everywhere at once, and build more reactors and refineries, the price of oil would plummet to the point where the "usual suspects"(Russia, Iran, Venezuela etc.) wouldn't be able to afford to make mischief. Sounds like a win-win to me. Pity the obvious hides in plain sight.

re: #57 debutaunt

It was stunning when she told him that he had a right to his opinion!

that was stunning. i'm surprised she even conceded that right considering that is ultimately what they seek to control, beliefs and opinions.

Where's Buzzsawmonkey? I love his dissection of "human" rights.

re: #54 DeafDog

I wish you were right and if this were the 1950s, it would be true. The sad truth is that it will take 10 years - the Environmentalists will tie up everything in court.

Alright that is a legitimate concern. I guess that I am saying that it could be extracted from the ground that quickly if left unfettered.
The Government &/or the oil companies could petition the Supreme Court to issue a writ of certiorari saying that no legitimate environmental issues exist. This is really unusual, but hey we have $4.00 oil

OT: Anyone else check out the Amazon.com controversy over their dropping the negative reviews of Pelosi's book from their site? Could this be seen as an illegal contribution to Pelosi? How much would an author pay to have negative reviews of their book deleted? That's gotta be worth something.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

re: #55 nyc redneck

it's nice to see a photo of him smiling.

Especially after the hell he has been through.

'Human Rights Commission'? Ha! 'Inhuman Wrongs Commission' is more accurate.

Uhhh...WTF is up with Breyers new ad campaign?

[Link: i34.tinypic.com...]

Tribunals first, "re-education" camps second. I read somewhere that Britian was considering "racial sensitivity training", or that they had already put it into effect. To me that is the beginning of re-education camps.

re: #63 opnion

Alright that is a legitimate concern. I guess that I am saying that it could be extracted from the ground that quickly if left unfettered.
The Government &/or the oil companies could petition the Supreme Court to issue a writ of certiorari saying that no legitimate environmental issues exist. This is really unusual, but hey we have $4.00 oil

In MT our governor authorizes all kinds of resource exploration and use, then forms "environmental" committees to tell him why it can't happen. He got a high NRA rating by using the same tactics.

re: #56 bosforus

Yesterday while looking at Google Earth I learned as a child that via a shortcut my elementary school was only 3/4 mile away as opposed to the 2-3 mile bus ride. Only problem, the shortcut was through a forest. Guessing my parents would have had a problem with that.

My Wife is having a problem with letting our Son walk through an open, grass covered park, next to a busy community center, from which you can see the school, alone on his way to school. I went to a parochial school, but my friends all cut through the canyon short cuts to get to the elementary school in TierraSanta, a suburb of San Diego. Times have changed.

re: #66 Ben Hur

Uhhh...WTF is up with Breyers new ad campaign?

[Link: i34.tinypic.com...]

This is why Jesus invented Failblog.

re: #59 maddogg

PM Harper is a Conservative..

re: #66 Ben Hur

Uhhh...WTF is up with Breyers new ad campaign?

[Link: i34.tinypic.com...]

Oh.....MY.....G-D!

That reminds me of a Figurines (diet bar) commercial from the 70's.

It starts with a close-up of a Figurines bar which results in the name cropped so the first thing you see is 'urine'.

re: #68 Mars Needs Neocons

In MT our governor authorizes all kinds of resource exploration and use, then forms "environmental" committees to tell him why it can't happen. He got a high NRA rating by using the same tactics.

That is bizzare. Doesn't he make everybody angry?

re: #63 opnion

The environmentalists have more court rights then almost any other special interest group. Since we all have a soft spot for protecting the environment, it would be very difficult to change that.

Regardless, the journey of 1000 miles starts with the first step and it's time we get this journey moving on all fronts...off-shore, ANWAR and (especially, IMO) shale.

re: #54 DeafDog

I wish you were right and if this were the 1950s, it would be true. The sad truth is that it will take 10 years - the Environmentalists will tie up everything in court.

Environmentalists=luddites.

re: #61 nyc redneck

but they (as in petty HRC's) don't "seek to control" opinion -- they do control opinion. It's all up to Provincial Bureaucrats as to what's "acceptable" in terms of "public opinion."
There is NO free speech in Canada.

re: #60 tommygum

If we were to drill everywhere at once, and build more reactors and refineries, the price of oil would plummet to the point where the "usual suspects"(Russia, Iran, Venezuela etc.) wouldn't be able to afford to make mischief. Sounds like a win-win to me. Pity the obvious hides in plain sight.

So we need a President that will do for energy policy what Reagan did for the arms race.

Let's not assume that these Human Rights Councils can't happen here.
Let's not assume that we protected by the Constitution.
(Was it Justice Blackmun who said "the Consitution is whatever five of us say it is?")
RB Ginsburg has already explicitly said that "enlightened world opinion"
is a better guide to judicial decisions than the Constitution itself.

Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

what the hell is this b.s. some one drinking the koolaid?

re: #79 wolfie

Let's not assume that these Human Rights Councils can't happen here.
Let's not assume that we protected by the Constitution.
(Was it Justice Blackmun who said "the Consitution is whatever five of us say it is?")
RB Ginsburg has already explicitly said that "enlightened world opinion"
is a better guide to judicial decisions than the Constitution itself.

Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama.

They already have happened here.

New Mexico, I think. IIRC it had to do with a photographer who refused to do wedding photos for a gay wedding......something like that

re: #75 DeafDog

The environmentalists have more court rights then almost any other special interest group. Since we all have a soft spot for protecting the environment, it would be very difficult to change that.

Regardless, the journey of 1000 miles starts with the first step and it's time we get this journey moving on all fronts...off-shore, ANWAR and (especially, IMO) shale.

And we need to bring some nuclear plants on line. It is clean & reliable.
There has never been a fatality due to nuclear energy in this country.
You just keep Homer Simpson out of there. Doh!

re: #64 HBob

OT: Anyone else check out the Amazon.com controversy over their dropping the negative reviews of Pelosi's book from their site? Could this be seen as an illegal contribution to Pelosi? How much would an author pay to have negative reviews of their book deleted? That's gotta be worth something.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

One of the posters in the thread Why did Amazon dump over 200 reviews of Nancy's crapfest? mentions having made a screengrab of one of the negative reviews before it got thrown down the memory hole. Would it be worth it for Charles to ask him for that screengrab and then post it here?

re: #79 wolfie

Let's not assume that these Human Rights Councils can't happen here.
Let's not assume that we protected by the Constitution.
(Was it Justice Blackmun who said "the Consitution is whatever five of us say it is?")
RB Ginsburg has already explicitly said that "enlightened world opinion"
is a better guide to judicial decisions than the Constitution itself.

Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama.

And Breyer is with her

re: #72 NY Nana

heh...now that's debatable...(all depends on how one defines "Conservative.") Did you happen to catch his apology in Vancouver?

re: #72 NY Nana

PM Harper is a Conservative..

Can you elaborate? He is drowning in a sea of left wing socialist euroweenie crapthink policies. How much effect is he having?

re: #70 buzzsawmonkey

Me? I'm pretending to work.

Are they pretending to pay you?

re: #76 tommygum

Environmentalists=luddites.

I'm not going to condemn them because I like nature as much as anyone. I think, however, it's time that we shift the debate.

Currently, the debate is drill or not drill.

I'd prefer it to be drill and refine, but do it as cleanly and as environmentally safe as possible.

You know, I forgot where I read it, but somewhere I read an excellent point that the current environmental stance is actually worse for the global environment than allowing the USA to exploit the resources. Why? Because in other countries there are no environmental protections.

re: #66 Ben Hur

Uhhh...WTF is up with Breyers new ad campaign?

[Link: i34.tinypic.com...]

This thing has Epic Fail written all over it! Holy shit!

re: #74 opnion

That is bizzare. Doesn't he make everybody angry?

Nope, most beloved Gov since Racicot. He is the "bi-partisan" governor, his Lt. is a Republican (allegedly, but his past voting record did not show me any proof). He is Clinton Jr. He has the amazing ability to be everything to everyone and the seniors worship him. Meanwhile those of us in the know despise the SOB. He even had to have a survey done to decide what party he would pursue his political goals with. (He chose Dem, we think because he knew his inconsistencies wouldn't be questioned in that party.)

re: #82 opnion

And we need to bring some nuclear plants on line. It is clean & reliable.
There has never been a fatality due to nuclear energy in this country.
You just keep Homer Simpson out of there. Doh!

That's not necessarily true. Look up SL1. It's why the Army lost their nuclear power program.

re: #81 eschew_obfuscation

They already have happened here.

New Mexico, I think. IIRC it had to do with a photographer who refused to do wedding photos for a gay wedding......something like that

I don't doubt it.
And if you look at places where the left RULES.........academia, say....you can see just what they have in mind for the whole country.

re: #86 maddogg

I'll answer that for you -- the answer is "Zero."

re: #79 wolfie

Let's not assume that these Human Rights Councils can't happen here.
Let's not assume that we protected by the Constitution.
(Was it Justice Blackmun who said "the Consitution is whatever five of us say it is?")
RB Ginsburg has already explicitly said that "enlightened world opinion"
is a better guide to judicial decisions than the Constitution itself.

Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama. Nobama.

If enlightened world opinion can influence our laws, I as a cigar smoker would like them to refer to the recent German court smoking decision.

re: #77 J.S.

but they (as in petty HRC's) don't "seek to control" opinion -- they do control opinion. It's all up to Provincial Bureaucrats as to what's "acceptable" in terms of "public opinion."
There is NO free speech in Canada.

i'm thinking they want to control actual thought that isn't even expressed.
that's what they are going for : mind control.

re: #73 eschew_obfuscation

Oh.....MY.....G-D!

That reminds me of a Figurines (diet bar) commercial from the 70's.

It starts with a close-up of a Figurines bar which results in the name cropped so the first thing you see is 'urine'.

The word "environmentalist" should be cropped to read "mental".

re: #90 NomadOfNorad

This thing has Epic Fail written all over it! Holy shit!

And quickly, too!

re: #80 yochanan

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

what the hell is this b.s. some one drinking the koolaid?

Maybe they did him first on purpose.

Maybe there really is not much on him compared to other terrorists and terrorist supporters.

Maybe they put one of those doggie radio trackers in him.

Rats. The little wolves are howling for dinner!
Gotta throw them some raw meat! bbl

re: #97 nyc redneck

You're absolutely correct...you know, I can't even discuss what's been going on up here (yeah, that's right -- my lips/the keyboard, etc., are sealed..)

re: #66 Ben Hur

I feel like I am missing out. The link is blocked at work.

Question.
If law students in the US did what law students did to Mark Steyn in Canada would they be barred from ever getting admitted to practice? Remember hearing that medical students are warned to be extra careful to do nothing that could be interpreted as practicing without a license. Does the legal community hold its students to a similarly high standard?

re: #78 CyanSnowHawk

So we need a President that will do for energy policy what Reagan did for the arms race.

Amen.

re: #89 DeafDog

I'm not going to condemn them because I like nature as much as anyone. I think, however, it's time that we shift the debate.

Currently, the debate is drill or not drill.

I'd prefer it to be drill and refine, but do it as cleanly and as environmentally safe as possible.

You know, I forgot where I read it, but somewhere I read an excellent point that the current environmental stance is actually worse for the global environment than allowing the USA to exploit the resources. Why? Because in other countries there are no environmental protections.

Self described Enviromentaists that I have known are generally smug & morally superior.
We are all environmentalists in the sense that we respect nature.
But people need to live & work. There has to be a blance. We are going do do it cleaner than anyone else.

re: #89 DeafDog

You know, I forgot where I read it, but somewhere I read an excellent point that the current environmental stance is actually worse for the global environment than allowing the USA to exploit the resources. Why? Because in other countries there are no environmental protections.

Yes. Who do we want drilling off the Florida Coast? Exxon-Mobil or the Red Chinese? Who's got the cleaner country? Who is under more oversight? Who is answerable in some way to the US?

re: #86 maddogg

Can you elaborate? He is drowning in a sea of left wing socialist euroweenie crapthink policies. How much effect is he having?

He's the improvement, it is Canada.

re: #106 tommygum

Cool, I seem to have composed a prayer.

re: #89 DeafDog

It was a Krauthammer observation.

re: #104 lifeofthemind

Question.
If law students in the US did what law students did to Mark Steyn in Canada would they be barred from ever getting admitted to practice? Remember hearing that medical students are warned to be extra careful to do nothing that could be interpreted as practicing without a license. Does the legal community hold its students to a similarly high standard?

Considering the liberal nature of the Bar Association, the standards would only apply to conservatives.

re: #103 CyanSnowHawk

I feel like I am missing out. The link is blocked at work.

That is either the sickest or stupidest advertising photo/slogan combination I have ever seen.

re: #92 CyanSnowHawk

That's not necessarily true. Look up SL1. It's why the Army lost their nuclear power program.

I don't believe that there was a fatality. I may hve that wrong, but I have read that several times.

re: #71 Occasional Reader

This is why Jesus invented Failblog.

And the Jesus of the Week Blog

re: #95 J.S.

I'll answer that for you -- the answer is "Zero."

That was my impression also.

NO ONE looked at that ad layout and said that's just soooo wrong?

re: #88 buzzsawmonkey

What Levant has correctly pointed out is that "Human Rights Commissions" are nothing more than Tribunals for Free-Floating Resentments which have no genuine basis in law or liberty. They are political persecution bureaus, plain and simple.

That's good enough. I suppose.

re: #109 lifeofthemind

Yeah. An "improvement" -- now that's funny...(like Harper's done so much with respect to the Kangaroo Courts aka HRCs...yeah! a real prodigious effort! Three cheers)

re: #114 opnion

I don't believe that there was a fatality. I may hve that wrong, but I have read that several times.

There was. The man hooking up the tackle to the control rods was pinned to the roof the reactor room when they suddenly shot out of the reactor after it went prompt critical.

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

If my sister were still in law enforcement, she'd be prosecuting them for kiddie porn.

Holy shit.

re: #104 lifeofthemind

Question.
If law students in the US did what law students did to Mark Steyn in Canada would they be barred from ever getting admitted to practice? Remember hearing that medical students are warned to be extra careful to do nothing that could be interpreted as practicing without a license. Does the legal community hold its students to a similarly high standard?

Most states have special licenses (in IL they're known as 911 licenses I believe - nothing to do with 911) that allow law students to do certain public service work under the supervision of a licensed attorney.

Then there's this travesty of justice from Americans. The poor driver pleaded for mercy because, after all, he needed the job.

GUANTANAMO BAY NAVAL BASE, Cuba - A military jury gave Osama bin Laden's driver a stunningly lenient sentence on Thursday, making him eligible for release in just five months despite the prosecutors' request for a sentence tough enough to frighten terrorists around the globe.

re: #64 HBob

I spend a lot with Amazon. Will have to watch this closely.

Maybe he should sue in the esteemed World Court
/

re: #113 OldLineTexan

That is either the sickest or stupidest advertising photo/slogan combination I have ever seen.

It can't be both?!? :D :D :D

/Did I mention it had Epic Fail written all over it? :O :O :O

A few questions, thanks in advance for any help.

1. Is the "accused" assumed guilty or innocent first? In other words, is there a presumption of innocence or a presumption of guilt?

2. If presumption of innocence, what burden of proof is necessary to prove guilt? Beyond a reasonable doubt, clear and convincing evidence, preponderance of evidence? What is the approximate percentage related to the burden of proof?

3. Could Ezra have remained silent or does the HRC have the "right" to force people to talk?

In other words, was Ezra already guilty and he had to prove he's innocent OR
was Ezra innocent and HRC had to prove him guilty?

/I'm going to keep using the phrase, "They Ezra'd him" as a lead-in to letting people know the absurdity of Canadian "law."

re: #66 Ben Hur

Uhhh...WTF is up with Breyers new ad campaign?

[Link: i34.tinypic.com...]

Has anyone sent this to Fox News? They can get a week, ok 2 days, of easy work off this.

re: #117 snowcrash

NO ONE looked at that ad layout and said that's just soooo wrong?

I think that is a joke ad. For some reason the Breyer's packaging looks like the old packaging.

re: #66 Ben Hur

Contact information.

[Link: www.icecreamusa.com...]

Is Canada still a country anymore?

re: #119 J.S.

Yeah. An "improvement" -- now that's funny...(like Harper's done so much with respect to the Kangaroo Courts aka HRCs...yeah! a real prodigious effort! Three cheers)

It's like the motto of the Corps on liberty.
"If you can't meet your standards, just lower your standards."

re: #104 lifeofthemind

Question.
If law students in the US did what law students did to Mark Steyn in Canada would they be barred from ever getting admitted to practice? Remember hearing that medical students are warned to be extra careful to do nothing that could be interpreted as practicing without a license. Does the legal community hold its students to a similarly high standard?

Wow. Now that's a legitimate question...(even teachers need to uphold professional standards -- but it seems that Law Students in Canada are given a "free pass" -- yet another double standard?).

re: #88 buzzsawmonkey

What Levant has correctly pointed out is that "Human Rights Commissions" are nothing more than Tribunals for Free-Floating Resentments which have no genuine basis in law or liberty. They are political persecution bureaus, plain and simple.

Sounds like the traveling "troikas" of the NKVD that sentenced AS.

Speaking of human rights, can I get a hanky? I'm going to cry, since Mexico is unhappy with Texas.

It seems that in Texas, if you rape and kill two teenage girls walking through a park, you just might end up dead after several years.

The irony in the article is thick, but the golden quote IMO is below:

"Only God has the right to take a life," said Medellin's cousin Reyna Armendariz.

Reyna, please file that under "Philosophies Best Adopted Before You Commit Murders".

Canada is an embarrassment to itself and it's citizens. Are we going to have to free Canada in the future?

re: #66 Ben Hur

Uhhh...WTF is up with Breyers new ad campaign?

[Link: i34.tinypic.com...]

Do we actually have a Breyer's website link to this pic?

I'm not finding one....

re: #130 Mars Needs Neocons

I think that is a joke ad. For some reason the Breyer's packaging looks like the old packaging.

You are assuming, of course, that this is a brand new ad... For all we know, this came from an archive of old, unused or quickly-yanked ads from years ago.

re: #83 NomadOfNorad

Here is info about it, and they have a screenshot of the 1 star review.

And here are comments on Amazon regarding their deletion of previous comments...

re: #102 J.S.

yes, it is very infuriating and disappointing.

re: #89 DeafDog

Krauthammer's point.

re: #130 Mars Needs Neocons
You are right. I think the package is black now.

BBL

GOing out for icecream.

re: #107 opnion

Self described Enviromentaists that I have known are generally smug & morally superior.
We are all environmentalists in the sense that we respect nature.
But people need to live & work. There has to be a blance. We are going do do it cleaner than anyone else.

You remind me of the South Park episod where the environmentists all take pride in smelling their own farts.

I agree with you, and most Americans do these days, but we need to guard against the tyranny of the mojority when protecting dickheads, too. :-)

re: #85 J.S.

Did you happen to catch his apology in Vancouver?

Not PM Harper, too? Damn. I didn't catch them. And I probably will not be happy when I do.

re: #127 NomadOfNorad

It can't be both?!? :D :D :D

/Did I mention it had Epic Fail written all over it? :O :O :O

I think it is possible, mind you just possible, that there exists a human or humans stupid enough to conceive, create, sell, purchase, and publish that without noticing the kiddie porn aspect.

re: #122 jamgarr

Most states have special licenses (in IL they're known as 911 licenses I believe - nothing to do with 911) that allow law students to do certain public service work under the supervision of a licensed attorney.

You see my point here. What would happen to American law students who just went out and tried to Jack some guy up? If they did it for a real lawyer then he would face Bar discipline wouldn't he?

re: #138 eschew_obfuscation

Do we actually have a Breyer's website link to this pic?

I'm not finding one....

Contact.

[Link: www.icecreamusa.com...]

re: #93 buzzsawmonkey

LOL!

I sent him $50; money well spent.

re: #41 DeafDog

No, no.

BJO said that inflating tires would save as much gas as drilling.

THAT IS A GROSS EXAGERATION, AND HE KNOWS IT!

The igonorant ones are the ones who are listening to "the Messiah" and taking his word as gospel.

And BHO's numbers assume that all Americans are driving with underinflated tires. The stats are ridiculous, but the cult believes.

Hussein Obama is like a child.

re: #111 jamgarr

It was a Krauthammer observation.

Figures. That guy is pretty darn smart.

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

So now you can say he's Ben Ezra'd!

/Get sued along with me

re: #130 Mars Needs Neocons

I think that is a joke ad. For some reason the Breyer's packaging looks like the old packaging.

OK, I will buy that.

Sick.

re: #149 lifeofthemind

You see my point here. What would happen to American law students who just went out and tried to Jack some guy up? If they did it for a real lawyer then he would face Bar discipline wouldn't he?

They would be subject to the "anti-jacking" provisions of their state.

re: #150 MandyManners

Contact.

[Link: www.icecreamusa.com...]

I'm not looking to contact them......just asking if this "ad" is a photoshop job being published as a hoax.

re: #148 OldLineTexan

I think it is possible, mind you just possible, that there exists a human or humans stupid enough to conceive, create, sell, purchase, and publish that without noticing the kiddie porn aspect.

I will admit that I'm naive enough to think at first, "Ah, how cute" (the girls are evident ally gymnasts) However, when the other interpretation was brought to my attention, it became obvious.

re: #128 Behead Me Bob

In any real Canadian court of law -- you have the presumption of innocence. (Civil or criminal -- all the standards of Western jurisprudence apply). The exception occurs with these so-called Human Rights Tribunals (they are products of each separate province -- and the provinces are like states in the U.S.) These Tribunals take up "causes" (say a Muslim feels "insulted" -- he files a "complaint"). The regulations which apply to a HRC (all the specifications with respect to how a hearing will be conducted, what legal recourse one has, etc.) are under what's known as Administrative Law. And here lies the problem -- under Administrative Law with these Tribunals you've got a whole host of problems which totally do away with standard legal precedents (virtually all of your rights are taken away) -- but this is done because the Tribunals want to be "informal," and non legalistic, etc. ..(a "citizen's court" if you will)...anyway, ends up being a complete travesty.

re: #83 NomadOfNorad

One of the posters in the thread Why did Amazon dump over 200 reviews of Nancy's crapfest? mentions having made a screengrab of one of the negative reviews before it got thrown down the memory hole. Would it be worth it for Charles to ask him for that screengrab and then post it here?

Absolutely. I would be very interested in seeing it! I'm sure Amazon's lame excuse for dumping would make for a chuckle or two as well.

re: #113 OldLineTexan

I'm gonna call BS on that ad campaign. Seriously, that can't be real. At least I freaking hope not.

And yah, the most bizarre moment of the trial was when the lady said "you have a right to your opinion."

I think Mr. Levant was incredibly composed in not just reaching over and slapping her for that remark.

re: #160 goddessoftheclassroom

I will admit that I'm naive enough to think at first, "Ah, how cute" (the girls are evident ally gymnasts) However, when the other interpretation was brought to my attention, it became obvious.

I was just convinced that it was a sick joke.

I don't purchase Breyer's, so I really don't pay attention to their packaging. It was pointed out above that the packaging is possibly dated, indicating a sick Photoshop-type construction.

re: #161 J.S.

In any real Canadian court of law -- you have the presumption of innocence. (Civil or criminal -- all the standards of Western jurisprudence apply). The exception occurs with these so-called Human Rights Tribunals (they are products of each separate province -- and the provinces are like states in the U.S.) These Tribunals take up "causes" (say a Muslim feels "insulted" -- he files a "complaint"). The regulations which apply to a HRC (all the specifications with respect to how a hearing will be conducted, what legal recourse one has, etc.) are under what's known as Administrative Law. And here lies the problem -- under Administrative Law with these Tribunals you've got a whole host of problems which totally do away with standard legal precedents (virtually all of your rights are taken away) -- but this is done because the Tribunals want to be "informal," and non legalistic, etc. ..(a "citizen's court" if you will)...anyway, ends up being a complete travesty.

I'm no expert, but the word "travesty" just about sums it up.

Medellin was convicted of participating in the gang rape, beating and strangling of Elizabeth Pena, 16, and Jennifer Ertman, 14. He and five fellow gang members attacked the girls as they were walking home on a June night, raped and tortured them for an hour, then kicked and stomped them before using a belt and shoelaces to strangle them.

In Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, where Medellin was born, a small group of his relatives condemned his execution.

"Only God has the right to take a life," said Medellin's cousin Reyna Armendariz.

Perhaps instead of executing this poor man we should have let him choose Hammurabi's Code.

If you think this crap can't happen here, let me introduce you to my favorite term: hate crime.

re: #139 NomadOfNorad

You are assuming, of course, that this is a brand new ad... For all we know, this came from an archive of old, unused or quickly-yanked ads from years ago.

Entirely possible. The fact that it's a tinyurl link screams fake though. A lot of joke sites use the tinyurl coding for their pics.

OT my cat has suddenly started acting really sweet and cuddly and is currently standing on my head. It's like he's all catnipped up, but there isn't any in the house.

Hope I can still keep posting, just got an emai that one of the jobs I interviewed for this last week is a no go. Expecting the other four to turn me down soon.

re: #147 NY Nana

hmmm....(it was one of those "I am cringing" moments...) do you know anything about the Sikhs? they have this "moment" in Canadian history which they'll bring up (some were on a boat back in -- i don't know -- 1918? -- and they were turned away by the Brits in Canada at the port...this has forever been held against Canadians -- the ultimate in racism, etc. Anyway, Stephen Harper did this abject apology (yeah, ok, that's fine...), but the upshot was that there were Sikh leaders who refused to accept his apology...(I mean, you should have seen it .... I can only describe it as "unbelievable..." or "you had to have been there"...or...a cringe worthy moment...)

re: #140 NY Nana

Here is info about it, and they have a screenshot of the 1 star review.

And here are comments on Amazon regarding their deletion of previous comments...

I have been saying for ages now that there will be a backlash against Liberals like nobody has ever seen, that the general population of the USA is going to declare ALL Liberals in the population -- all people who support Liberals, all people who have "Impeach W Bush" and "Pull out of Iraq Now!" bumper stickers on their cars, and such -- as THEIR PERSONAL ENEMIES, and call them the enemies of THIS WHOLE COUNTRY, straight to their faces, and will publicly declare that they won't do business with them ever again. Ever.

Regardless of the fact that Ezra has been already "punished by the process", despite being found innocent, the process did have the inestimable value of waking up many in Canada to the evils of the HRC system.

We had editorials in mainstream media that never before had taken on such issues, and many prominent Canadian voices, not all conservative, spoke against the HRC process.

So, overall the fact that Ezra was put through this ordeal was a huge plus for the anti-political correctness, pro-free speech, anti-Jihadi, anti-liberal fascist crowd.

What rankled more than anything else, though, was how our prime minister Stephen Harper completely ignored the issue. People keep making the explanation of political expediency for his silence on an issue that should have been front and centre, but it still shows that for the time being political correctness and liberal fascism remain strong in this country, even when an supposedly conservative administration is in power.

Lots more work to do. I have donated several hundred dollars to Mr. Levant in the past year, and I urge people to do what they can in this regard. There are lots of big talkers and brave people hiding behind anonymous blog posts, but there has been a shortage of brave people willing to take on these issues in real life, and someone like Mr. Levant cannot be replaced. Whatever we can do to encourage him to fight on, we should do.

But I’ve read the dismissal letter three times now, and each time it makes me more angry. Because I haven’t been given my freedom of the press. I’ve simply had the government censor approve what I said. That’s a completely different thing.

Ezra's probably sick to death of the whole thing, but if anyone were to file an appeal of the dismissal because it's for the wrong reasons, it would be Ezra. The man's on a mission

I'm in Alberta and every ruling from these grievance-hucksters is worse than the last. I wrote my MLA another letter today, however I suspect she's not bright enough to understand the problem, let alone fix it.

re: #19 opnion

This is the legal strategy of the jihad to force Western societies into submission. This is a clear attack on freedom of the press & therefore Western Values.

You're right. Look how CAIR defines freedom of speech. They are trying to stop Savage's right to free speech, but are celebrating a huge victory for freedom of speech. This is a release from CAIR and in it they asked for donations to continue the fight for "free speech". Regardless of what you think of Savage, how is this a victory for free speech?

We hope you will join us in celebrating what many are calling a huge victory for freedom of speech.

Last year during a nationally-syndicated radio broadcast, host Michael Savage screamed attacks on Muslims, Islam and the Quran.

Savage's anti-Muslim rant included: "I don't wanna hear anymore about Islam. I don't wanna hear one more word about Islam. Take your religion and shove it up your behind. I'm sick of you."

As you know, CAIR's response to these attacks, coupled with the efforts of other like-minded organizations, cost Savage advertisers like Sears, Sam’s Club and GEICO Insurance. He told reporters that he lost more than $1 million in revenue.

THE GOOD NEWS: In a ruling issued on Friday, Federal Judge Susan Illston dismissed Savage’s lawsuit against CAIR.

re: #148 OldLineTexan

I think it is possible, mind you just possible, that there exists a human or humans stupid enough to conceive, create, sell, purchase, and publish that without noticing the kiddie porn aspect.

It wouldn't surprise me one zarking bit! There are probably scads of market-drones like that!

re: #170 buzzsawmonkey

Where were the 2005 Olympics?!

re: #170 buzzsawmonkey

Two things I notice about the Breyer's ad:

1) It refers to the 2005 gymnastic team--which suggests that if the ad is real, it is old.

2) It uses the word "flavour"--i.e., British spelling, for an American brand--which makes the ad a little suspect.

I don't know enough about gymnastics to know that, but I should have caught the spelling, good call.

re: #177 jamgarr

Where were the 2005 Olympics?!

You didn't say Olympics

re: #159 eschew_obfuscation

I'm not looking to contact them......just asking if this "ad" is a photoshop job being published as a hoax.

Breyers will figure it out very quickly if people contact them to ask about it.

re: #177 jamgarr

Where were the 2005 Olympics?!

Olympics in 2005?

2000, 2002, 2004, 2008...........2005?

re: #137 CapeCoddah

Oh, please, please free us! (ok, ok I'm just speaking as an American...)

re: #180 buzzsawmonkey

I don't follow sports at all, but isn't that an off-year?

That's what I meant - but I haven't seen the ad so I don't know if it was a reference to the Olympics or just gymnastics in general..

re: #171 NomadOfNorad

I have been saying for ages now that there will be a backlash against Liberals like nobody has ever seen, that the general population of the USA is going to declare ALL Liberals in the population -- all people who support Liberals, all people who have "Impeach W Bush" and "Pull out of Iraq Now!" bumper stickers on their cars, and such -- as THEIR PERSONAL ENEMIES, and call them the enemies of THIS WHOLE COUNTRY, straight to their faces, and will publicly declare that they won't do business with them ever again. Ever.

In the History of the American Left, this was usually the point where the left begins to collapse. The public sees too much of the wackos and realizes what has taken over the party.

In a similar vein a survey I heard last night on CNN radio said that people are sick of hearing about Obama. Republicans 2/3
Independents 1/2
Democrats 1/3

re: #182 eschew_obfuscation

BUZZ's #170 states 2005 Gymnastic TEAM ,, not 2005 Olympics

[Link: www.museumofhoaxes.com...]

It's about time they did this, but I almost wish that it would have gone futher until the citizens of Canada figured out that they need to abolish the CHRC to protect their liberty.

re: #170 buzzsawmonkey

Two things I notice about the Breyer's ad:

1) It refers to the 2005 gymnastic team--which suggests that if the ad is real, it is old.

2) It uses the word "flavour"--i.e., British spelling, for an American brand--which makes the ad a little suspect.

I googled "Breyer's Ice Cream ad hoax" and found this at [Link: www.museumofhoaxes.com....] Looks like a long exposed hoax. If this is the same ad mentioned above that I could not view at work.

The left has had its most historical successes when it at least pretended to be a movement that loved America and what it stands for.

re: #170 buzzsawmonkey

Two things I notice about the Breyer's ad:

1) It refers to the 2005 gymnastic team--which suggests that if the ad is real, it is old.

2) It uses the word "flavour"--i.e., British spelling, for an American brand--which makes the ad a little suspect.

Real or not, Breyers needs to be contacted.

re: #175 ciaospirit

Last year during a nationally-syndicated radio broadcast, host Michael Savage screamed attacks on Muslims, Islam and the Quran.

Savage's anti-Muslim rant included: "I don't wanna hear anymore about Islam. I don't wanna hear one more word about Islam. Take your religion and shove it up your behind. I'm sick of you."

As you know, CAIR's response to these attacks, coupled with the efforts of other like-minded organizations, cost Savage advertisers like Sears, Sam’s Club and GEICO Insurance. He told reporters that he lost more than $1 million in revenue.

THE GOOD NEWS: In a ruling issued on Friday, Federal Judge Susan Illston dismissed Savage’s lawsuit against CAIR.

Good news I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that Savage (is that a stage name?) is an ass who would probably be banned from LGF in a week; if it hasn't already happened.

Breyers makes a mean mint chocolate chip ice cream.

bbl

re: #187 OldLineTexan

Beat me to it, good work OLT.

re: #30 Just Another Four-letter Word

I'm pretty sure the CHRC did this so they wouldn't get "outed". KnowwhutImean?

JAFLW

I'm not picking on you, really I'm not, but you've made a very understandable and common error.

In Canada, we are blessed with 14 HRCs - the federal Canadian HRC, 10 provincial and 3 territorial. In Ezra's case, it is the Alberta HRC that he has been dealing with.

But other than that, you're right. They finally picked on someone who refused to cower in fear and, like bullies everywhere, they backed off.

File this under: Damn- How much did this fiasco cost us?

"Bin Laden driver given 66 months"

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

OK- The article is from the BBC, but still!

re: #93 buzzsawmonkey

Since I pay myself, I've got myself fooled.

The last one paid - isn't it grand?

re: #192 MandyManners

Real or not, Breyers needs to be contacted.

I think they know. It's been busted for at least two years now.

re: #66 Ben Hur

Uhhh...WTF is up with Breyers new ad campaign?

[Link: i34.tinypic.com...]

OMG!

That's worse than the BMW used car ad, and that was bad enough.

re: #196 CyanSnowHawk

Beat me to it, good work OLT.

No, other Lizards with a more critical eye noted several flaws.

re: #140 NY Nana

Here is info about it, and they have a screenshot of the 1 star review.

And here are comments on Amazon regarding their deletion of previous comments...

Rush said Stretch's book sold only about 2, 500 copies. Meanwhile, the book Obama Nation is headed for number one.

re: #198 buzzsawmonkey

I have a book from the 1930s by then-leading communist Granville Hicks, titled "I Like America."

And, indeed he does--though with all the "buts" that we are familiar with today skillfully interwoven into the narrative.

... and remember when you read things like this that "however" is just a soft "but".

re: #193 Naso Tang

Good news I agree, but that doesn't change the fact that Savage (is that a stage name?) is an ass who would probably be banned from LGF in a week; if it hasn't already happened.

It's why I don't listen to him anymore. He's become to loud and too angry. And AFAIK it's real, my research brings up Dr. Michael Savage. He apparently has a doctorate in epidemiology.

re: #168 Mars Needs Neocons

Entirely possible. The fact that it's a tinyurl link screams fake though. A lot of joke sites use the tinyurl coding for their pics.

OT my cat has suddenly started acting really sweet and cuddly and is currently standing on my head. It's like he's all catnipped up, but there isn't any in the house.

Hope I can still keep posting, just got an emai that one of the jobs I interviewed for this last week is a no go. Expecting the other four to turn me down soon.

{Mars Needs Neocons}

Any place that is dumb enough not to hire you you wouldn't want to work for anyway. The right place will find you! Hang in there.

And your cat loves you--that says LOADS about you!

re: #190 CyanSnowHawk

I googled "Breyer's Ice Cream ad hoax" and found this at [Link: www.museumofhoaxes.com....] Looks like a long exposed hoax. If this is the same ad mentioned above that I could not view at work.

Yup. Same ad.

re: #206 Thanos

... and remember when you read things like this that "however" is just a soft "but".

Rotating title thingy nomination

re: #190 CyanSnowHawk

I googled "Breyer's Ice Cream ad hoax" and found this at [Link: www.museumofhoaxes.com....] Looks like a long exposed hoax. If this is the same ad mentioned above that I could not view at work.

Oh - good. BMW ad that I linked to is all too real, however.

re: #86 maddogg

He was off to such a good start. And his speech on Israel's 60^th birthday was brilliant. IMHO, one of the best ever from a foreign leader.

I think the apology that J.S. referred to were his apology to the First Nations, when he was in Vancouver.

Thanks Guys/Gals,

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

In other words, if accused you are guilty until you prove otherwise. Fail to reply, you are clearly guilty. And the standard of proof is whatever the tribunal wants it to be.

That's TRULY SCARY.

re: #161 J.S.

And here lies the problem -- under Administrative Law with these Tribunals you've got a whole host of problems which totally do away with standard legal precedents (virtually all of your rights are taken away) -- but this is done because the Tribunals want to be "informal," and non legalistic, etc. ..(a "citizen's court" if you will)...anyway, ends up being a complete travesty.

Tossing out legal precedents is SCARY as well.

re: #198 buzzsawmonkey

I have a book from the 1930s by then-leading communist Granville Hicks, titled "I Like America."

And, indeed he does--though with all the "buts" that we are familiar with today skillfully interwoven into the narrative.

Oddly enough, The Conservative History of the American Left only has one thing on Hicks, a quote he made in reference to John Reed.

re: #208 goddessoftheclassroom

{Mars Needs Neocons}

Any place that is dumb enough not to hire you you wouldn't want to work for anyway. The right place will find you! Hang in there.

And your cat loves you--that says LOADS about you!

Actually this cat has generally hated me.

Thing that bothers me is that every job (over 300) I've applied for in the last year, hasn't wanted me.

re: #202 Catttt

That's worse than the BMW used car ad, and that was bad enough.

[shrug] Eh. I don't see the big fat hairy deal, to be honest.

re: #204 OldLineTexan

Ah, but you posted the exact link I did just a few comments earlier. It was the flaws that drove me to search for a debunk on something like MoH or Snopes.

re: #53 twincitiesgirl

Thanks for the link NY Nana--there's a place at the top of the page to donate through PayPal.

Done.

Consider donating if you can. It's just criminal that this man has all these legal bills now. Insult to injury.

re: #203 buzzsawmonkey

I'm looking forward to being able to afford to pay myself what I'm worth.

Some day.

If you're a small business owner, "some day' will never come!

Been There ,, Done That ,, couldn't even afford the T-Shirt !

re: #138 eschew_obfuscation
Folks, This Bryers ad is dated 2005. enlarge the photo, it is in the small print, looks like olympians. Still not right.

re: #213 NY Nana

No...It wasn't Harper's apology to the First Nations (that was OK). It was Harper's apology to the Sikhs in Vancouver (they didn't accept his apology and -- imo -- they publicly humiliated Stephen Harper -- it was truly hideous..)

re: #217 Occasional Reader

[shrug] Eh. I don't see the big fat hairy deal, to be honest.

Um - the made-up child lying on her back about to be fucked?

re: #216 Mars Needs Neocons

Actually this cat has generally hated me.

Thing that bothers me is that every job (over 300) I've applied for in the last year, hasn't wanted me.

Strangely enough the cat we have visiting us is starting to like me too. Maybe I smell like mouse or something now.

re: #216 Mars Needs Neocons

Is there anyone you can consult about revamping your resume or interview skills or to give you leads to positions that will be a good fit for you talents?

A good friend of mine posted her resume on monster.com and got a GREAT job, but she was able and willing to relocate.

I'll keep you in my prayers--may I add you to the Lizard Prayer List?

re: #180 buzzsawmonkey

I don't follow sports at all, but isn't that an off-year?

trust me buzz..thats an off year..but the world championships were that year...
So here is te deal.. That picture has got to be fake..come on!
And concerning ice cream..
My parents were anti-sugar freaks...Although i snuck some as a kid..It was seriously a banned product in our home..
It has always been banned with our kids..We have never allowed a sugar product in our home.. It used to be really hard years ago because sugar subs were non existant..But that changed with the advent of sweetener...
I'll never forget when our family was at the chicago auto show years ago and i was like 10 years old and i hung out at a cooking show there and this guy kept talking about how bad sugar was for the body.. and i barely remember thinking ' i guess mom and dad aren't as stupid as i thought'
funny..when you grow up..you're parents become friggin geniuses...

re: #190 CyanSnowHawk

I googled "Breyer's Ice Cream ad hoax" and found this at [Link: www.museumofhoaxes.com....] Looks like a long exposed hoax. If this is the same ad mentioned above that I could not view at work.

Your second link is broken. Here is the corrected version.

re: #206 Thanos

... and remember when you read things like this that "however" is just a soft "but".

"though" is kind of a soft "but" too, and a clever change up for "however".

re: #212 Catttt

What magazines printed that ad? Maxim? Playboy? I would expect that was a targeted ad that went into Men's magazines, or something with a very high M/F reader ratio. Or it was done with the intent to generate a news buzz, which is a sometimes difficult road to take since it can easily backfire.

re: #225 goddessoftheclassroom

Is there anyone you can consult about revamping your resume or interview skills or to give you leads to positions that will be a good fit for you talents?

A good friend of mine posted her resume on monster.com and got a GREAT job, but she was able and willing to relocate.

I'll keep you in my prayers--may I add you to the Lizard Prayer List?

Already went through all that with the resume and interview. They use my resume as an example of the right way in job skills class, and asked to video my practice interview because they said it was perfect.

Sure, prayer can't hurt about now. Next month I lose my vehicles, internet, apartment, and anything else. 300 short on my bills. This is the first real crisis month since I've been out of work. Previously I had college money, and community based assessment money, I managed to redo my car loan one month, and now I'm out of options.

re: #16 bosforus

OT -sorry it's so soon-
OT
Here are some rough figures.
-America drives: 1,000,000,000 miles per day
-Gas mileage: 20 mpg
-Equals 50,000,000 gallons of gasoline per day
-3% (max efficiency I've heard) increase in gas mileage from inflating tires: 20.6 mpg
-Equals 48,500,000 gallons of gasoline per day
-Savings if everybody's tires are underinflated: 1,500,000 gallons per day
-Savings if 25% of country is underinflated: 375,000 gallons per day

-Barrels in ANWR (Obama's quote includes all drilling, not just ANWR): 5,000,000,000
-Gasoline from those barrels: 250,000,000 gallons

-Days to equate tire inflation to ANWR assuming everyone's underinflated: 166
-Days to equate tire inflation to ANWR assuming 25% underinflated: 666
-Days to equate tire inflation to ANWR assuming 10% underinflated: 1666

Plenty of room for questioning these numbers. I didn't do extensive research for total accuracy, I just googled the data. Definitely open for scrutiny.

So soon?

There is no right time for an OT post.

re: #223 Catttt

Um - the made-up child lying on her back about to be fucked?

1) I don't see a "child" there, despite all the breathless commentary at the site to the contrary. The commenters have jumped all over "15 years old!", a number that they've simply invented. I'd guess the girl's age at around 18 -20.

2) Using sex to sell! Gasp! What is the world coming to?

It's not the ad I personally would have designed, but it ain't somehow "kiddie pr0n" either, if you ask me.

re: #229 CyanSnowHawk

What magazines printed that ad? Maxim? Playboy? I would expect that was a targeted ad that went into Men's magazines, or something with a very high M/F reader ratio. Or it was done with the intent to generate a news buzz, which is a sometimes difficult road to take since it can easily backfire.

Several years ago, Calvin Klein actually did do an ad like that, for the purpose of creating controversy, under the theory that there was no such thing as bad publicity... and it did backfire.

C'mon Lizards...make a donation if you can. If 200 of us donate just $50 we can take care of Mr. Levant's legal bill. We owe him at least that.

I imagine he must have paid quite a bit moire than that himself. If not, I'd like to get in touch with his lawyers if and when I need such services as they seem reasonable by any standard.

Now let's help him turn the tables on these fascist bureaucrats and send them to the soup queue!

WAY TO GO EZRA!

re: #230 Mars Needs Neocons

Already went through all that with the resume and interview. They use my resume as an example of the right way in job skills class, and asked to video my practice interview because they said it was perfect.

Sure, prayer can't hurt about now. Next month I lose my vehicles, internet, apartment, and anything else. 300 short on my bills. This is the first real crisis month since I've been out of work. Previously I had college money, and community based assessment money, I managed to redo my car loan one month, and now I'm out of options.

what do you do Mars?
or better yet....cause you know..the sky is the limit for you right now..
What do you want to do?

re: #216 Mars Needs Neocons

Actually this cat has generally hated me.

Thing that bothers me is that every job (over 300) I've applied for in the last year, hasn't wanted me.

Keep plugging away Mars. I was out for 21 Months in '02-'03, and had similar numbers of ignored applications that generated about 5 interviews.

I finally was offered a job after respectfully pestering the head of Engineering from one of those interview companies once every two weeks for about 3 months.

Lizard Prayer List 8/7/08
Prayers for thanks, praise, comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Thanksgivings
Ezra Levant: suit dismissed
GeeWiz: granddaughter Avery is home and well

Health issues:
jorline: scleritis (eye disease), which is caused by something else, in most cases rheumatoid arthritis; father who has colon cancer
realwest: dental issues, leg pain, cancer; mom Type II diabetes
Empire1: out of the hospital after suffering a stroke; praying for a full recovery.
Dolphin: friend Stan, open heart surgery
AKAK: Parkinson’s diagnosis confirmed
eaglewingz08: intestinal cancer; has bad case of Grave’s disease, thyroid disorder
Vxbush: being tested for wheat allergy
MigueldowninMexico: recovering from stroke
Noamsayin: niece and dad battling cancer
Truck Monkey: Brady (11-year-old with brain cancer who is on the football team he coaches)
Shaky Louie: chronic pancriatitis, and an (as yet) undiagnosed liver problem.
loppyd: step-father undergoing treatment for colon cancer
Macker: health issues and treatment
newsjunkie_ky: Step-Dad
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie: cancer and renal failure
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
BBev: wife’s illness and great pain; recovering from surgery that did not help
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Family, friend, and life situations:
Mars Needs Neocons: job
Jcm: best result for new foster daughter
Pvt Bin Jammin: best friend’s passing
Josephine: painful loss
Vxbush: daughter traveling overseas
Jammiewearingfool: sister’s passing
Typicalwhitey: family & neighbors dealing with flooding
CoCo: mother paralyzed (due to strokes) and is now having new health problems
David Simon: mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling
Intrepid: Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq.
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Hayseed: extended family challenges
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:
Those dealing with the flooding in the Midwest
Gilad Schalit, Ehud Goldwasser, Eldad Regev, for their release.
The families of John Young and Ron Withrow and those of the contractors still held hostage
Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

re: #231 Ceemack

So soon?

There is no right time for an OT post.

I see them all the time.

re: #229 CyanSnowHawk

What magazines printed that ad? Maxim? Playboy? I would expect that was a targeted ad that went into Men's magazines, or something with a very high M/F reader ratio. Or it was done with the intent to generate a news buzz, which is a sometimes difficult road to take since it can easily backfire.

It actually was intended for a Greek audience. I think it backfires big time in the USA, but it might not have the same "this looks like an under age girl" thing going in Greece - who knows. BMW's USA ads have used a little girl too, but in a family-friendly wholesome way.

If they'd used a more obviously grown up woman, some people would still say "this is sexist." Personally, I don't care about that - it's the child ho aspect that disturbs me.

In Miami, this guy was arrested for threatening remarks about Obama. But notice later in the article, threatening Bush was basically met with a yawn.

A Secret Service affidavit charges that Geisel made the threat during a training class for bail bondsmen in Miami in late July. According to someone else in the 48-member class, Geisel allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet and continued, "If he gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself.
...
Another person in the class quoted Geisel as saying that "he hated George W. Bush and that he wanted to put a bullet in the president's head," according to the Secret Service.

Geisel denied in a written statement to a Secret Service agent that he ever made those threats, and the documents don't indicate that he ever took steps to carry out any assassination. He was charged only with threatening Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee, but not for any threat against President Bush.

Vive Levant.

re: #227 NomadOfNorad

Doh. The period at the end got included in the link.

re: #235 buzzsawmonkey

He was a big writer and major CP figure in the mid-Thirties. Maybe he fell out of favor.

That's whats odd. They all fell out of favor after a while. This was a pretty thourough book. Maybe the writer wound up picking and choosing the most influentian and he came in lacking.

However the quote is as follows:

Biographer Granville Hicks, then a Communist, similarly assessed: "He did not hesitate to alter or even to invent. He might tell as if it had happened to him something that he had learned second-hand"

Perhaps unsurprisingly, John Reed had most of a chapter.

re: #145 DeafDog

Here is one with Cartman farting. Will that do? ;)

re: #238 goddessoftheclassroom

gotc, update the "community issues" Regev & Goldwasser have been released (to G-D)

re: #236 HoosierHoops

what do you do Mars?
or better yet....cause you know..the sky is the limit for you right now..
What do you want to do?

I have a BS in Liberal studies. My classes were focused in Psychology and Computers, with a large number of education and business classes.

I have a couple of places I really want to work. Unfortunately, the computer company I just heard from, is one of them. The other is a Business Intelligence firm that is getting ready to expand. I found out that the CEO has had my resume in hand for quite a while now, he pulled it from the file and has kept it in his office.

re: #246 Alouette

gotc, update the "community issues" Regev & Goldwasser have been released (to G-D)

Thank you. I'm sorry I missed that. May their loved ones find peace and comfort.

re: #240 Catttt

It actually was intended for a Greek audience. I think it backfires big time in the USA, but it might not have the same "this looks like an under age girl" thing going in Greece - who knows. BMW's USA ads have used a little girl too, but in a family-friendly wholesome way.

If they'd used a more obviously grown up woman, some people would still say "this is sexist." Personally, I don't care about that - it's the child ho aspect that disturbs me.

Oh, I didn't catch the Child aspect in the small pictures I saw. That would change things.

re: #238 goddessoftheclassroom

Reading that reminds me that my problems are an inconvenience. I can't believe what some people are living through.

I do just hope for a miracle. Working and getting my wife to work are going to be impossible if we lose our vehicle.

re: #237 CyanSnowHawk

That's what I've been doing with aboutBI.

re: #243 CyanSnowHawk

Doh. The period at the end got included in the link.

Took me several stabs at trying the link before I spotted that frell-up, too.

Duh! :D

re: #222 J.S.

No...It wasn't Harper's apology to the First Nations (that was OK). It was Harper's apology to the Sikhs in Vancouver (they didn't accept his apology and -- imo -- they publicly humiliated Stephen Harper -- it was truly hideous..)

I saw that one...disgusting.

/Courtesy of the Globe and Snail.

Dinner!

BBL!

re: #249 buzzsawmonkey

Here you go: Granville Hicks quit the Party over the Hitler-Stalin Pact, and ended up testifying before HUAC.

No wonder he's forgotten now.

True. I noticed many in the book that went that way. I wonder if he was just one of too many to get included. Having too many people with the same story could have gotten boring.

re: #245 NY Nana

NY Nana - look who's on the 2008 name list for Atlantic hurricanes:

2008
. . .
Josephine
Kyle
Laura
Marco
Nana
Omar
Palomad
. . .