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Edwards Admits Lying About Affair During Campaign

Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 12:21:14 pm PDT

Former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards has finally admitted he did have an extramarital affair—and lied about it repeatedly during his campaign: Edwards Admits to Sexual Affair; Lied as Presidential Candidate.

John Edwards repeatedly lied during his Presidential campaign about an extramarital affair with a novice filmmaker, the former Senator admitted to ABC News today.

In an interview for broadcast tonight on Nightline, Edwards told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 44-year old Rielle Hunter, but said that he did not love her.

Edwards also denied he was the father of Hunter’s baby girl, Frances Quinn, although the one-time Democratic Presidential candidate said he has not taken a paternity test.

Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby’s birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father.

A former campaign aide, Andrew Young, has said he was the father of the child.

According to friends of Hunter, Edwards met her at a New York city bar in 2006. His political action committee later paid her $114,000 to produce campaign website documentaries despite her lack of experience.

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1 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:22:28pm

Hey, at least he didn't love her. That would have been really bad if he did. /

2 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:22:57pm

Busted!

3 joncelli  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:23:03pm

An ambulance chaser telling lies? Where's my fainting couch! (Ah have the vaypuhs...)

4 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:23:05pm

I'm SHOCKED to find out a politician lied!

Even more SHOCKED to find out a Democratic politician lied about an affair!

/

5 researchok  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:24:21pm

Yesiree, just what American women want in a VP or cabinet member- a philandering, lying bastard who left his wife's sickbed to party with some NYC barfly.

No doubt he'll get a standing ovation at the DNC convention in Denver.

6 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:24:37pm

"I did not have sex with that wom....oh wait a minute, which one did you say?"

7 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:24:52pm

I guess affairs are ok if your wife's cancer is in remission but not if it is active. How ridiculous. Apparently, even when the cancer is eating away it's ok to visit the lover without telling your wife. We all knew he was a phony and this is just icing on the cake.

8 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:24:56pm

Now is he the daddy or not? If so, he's a real idiot to deny it at this point.

9 mossley  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:25:04pm

And he waited until a Friday afternoon to minimize the media coverage. Typical.

10 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:25:18pm

Cue Clinton defense: it was a lie about sex. Everyone does that, so it's okay!

11 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:25:36pm

His poor wife.

12 rhythman  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:25:52pm

and we all know...absolutely NOTHING will happen to him. maybe a little reprimand or something...but the liberal media and those with a liberal inclination will send sympathy to him, and maybe a little to his wife. What a f__ing loser and liar...he wanted to be President!

13 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:26:11pm

No need to leave out party affiliation on this scandal. Everybody knows he's a D.

14 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:26:18pm

re: #7 acacia

I guess affairs are ok if your wife's cancer is in remission but not if it is active. How ridiculous. Apparently, even when the cancer is eating away it's ok to visit the lover without telling your wife. We all knew he was a phony and this is just icing on the cake.

As the victim of adultery, I have to say there is NEVER a time it's "ok" to betray one's marriage vows and commitment, but when the spouse is battling cancer, it's even worse.

15 Peacekeeper  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:26:21pm

Sex, lies and videotape.

16 Alaska Kim  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:26:22pm

It takes a real piece of work for a guy to cheat on his wife while she has cancer. Whether she's in remission or not.

17 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:26:25pm
Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby’s birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father.

A former campaign aide, Andrew Young, has said he was the father of the child.

/apparently, she spread the love around

18 pjf626  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:26:26pm

Here is the kicker that makes it all OK


Edwards made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife’s cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter…

19 Dales  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:26:56pm

"According to friends of Hunter, Edwards met her at a New York city bar in 2006. His political action committee later paid her $114,000 to produce campaign website documentaries despite her lack of experience."

There ought to be a law...

20 Killgore Trout  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:27:00pm
His political action committee later paid her $114,000 to produce campaign website documentaries despite her lack of experience.


The rumors about her have been around for quite a while.

21 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:27:07pm
22 SusanL  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:27:15pm

That stupid woman has to feel about | | this tall for every getting near this sack of sh**.

Silky pony is not nearly derogatory enough.

Does Elizabeth Edwards have any brothers? Johnny boy needs a visit if she does.

S

23 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:27:38pm

re: #14 goddessoftheclassroom

Couldn't agree with you more.

24 saberry0530  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:27:54pm

re: #21 taxfreekiller

Well Well

A Democrat that will drill.

SPew warning next time TFK, please?

25 jill e  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:27:56pm

re: #17 Killian Bundy

/apparently, she spread the love around

Screwing around on his sick wife and then implying the other woman is a tramp...what fine Southern gentleman he is!

26 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:27:56pm

Edwards should move to San Francisco and run for mayor when Gavin Newsom runs for governor of CA.

27 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:27:57pm

re: #19 Dales

"According to friends of Hunter, Edwards met her at a New York city bar in 2006. His political action committee later paid her $114,000 to produce campaign website documentaries despite her lack of experience."

There ought to be a law...

Yeah, written in stone...

/

28 Nevergiveup  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:28:12pm

re: #18 pjf626

Here is the kicker that makes it all OK


Edwards made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife’s cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter…

Democrats have such interesting justifications!

29 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:28:18pm

If he would lie about this on the way to become VP, imagine what he would lie about as VP.

30 Peacekeeper  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:28:26pm

He's the Austin Powers of the Democratic Party.

31 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:28:35pm

The National Enquirer shames the MSM.

32 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:28:36pm

Let's settle this the quickest way. Let's have a paternity test. Swab the kid's cheek, swab Edwards, test.

I'm sick of this.

33 jones  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:28:37pm

re: #18 pjf626

Here is the kicker that makes it all OK


Edwards made a point of telling Woodruff that his wife’s cancer was in remission when he began the affair with Hunter…


His wife had cancer. Repeat this to everyone you know.

34 saberry0530  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:28:52pm

re: #30 Peacekeeper

He's the Austin Powers of the Democratic Party.


With better hair!

35 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:29:38pm

re: #30 Peacekeeper

He's the Austin Powers of the Democratic Party.

Hey, Austin Powers didn't pretend to be anything other than what he was! I could enjoy having dinner with Austin Powers--I couldn't stand to be in the same ROOM as Edwards!

36 Peacekeeper  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:29:39pm

Monogamy. guilt. not my bag baby...

37 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:29:42pm

Two Americas:

One for decent folks
One for people like Edwards

scumbag

38 gonecamping  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:29:50pm

Well if he didn't love her, then the kid can't be his 'love child'. Perhaps we should call it the 'friendship child.

On another note, that Chinese stadium for the Olympics looks like a big bedpan.

39 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:30:02pm

re: #30 Peacekeeper

He's the Austin Powers of the Democratic Party.

Austin was not married. That means a lot to the American people.

40 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:30:11pm

How do you know John Edwards is lying?

/Do I have to?

41 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:30:36pm

re: #8 goddessoftheclassroom

Now is he the daddy or not? If so, he's a real idiot to deny it at this point.

Yes, he is. But short of a paternity test, it's all speculation.

I think he is the father. I think it's disgusting that he's denying it.

The whole thing is disgusting, actually.

42 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:30:37pm

Let me see if I remember: "I did not have sex with the woman".

Right. He yanked it outtathere like he was makin' a pick-off move to second base.

43 Sharmuta  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:30:55pm
In an interview for broadcast tonight on Nightline, Edwards told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 44-year old Rielle Hunter, but said that he did not love her.

Typical democrat- they will tell you anything to screw you over, but they don't care about you one wit.

44 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:30:56pm

How long until he's Rev. Edwards, sleazy televangelist?

45 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:31:05pm

When do we get the 'Obligatory photo op at the Press Conference where the wife in a 'Jackie' style dress (most likely blue) stands by her man in silence.

46 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:31:23pm

Good thing the mainstream media had this story covered.

- oh oops - I meant - the mainstream media had Edwards covered.

47 FreakyBoy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:31:35pm
His political action committee later paid her $114,000....

Which, by the Democratic Spitzer standard of $4,000 per, is 28.5 times.

48 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:31:37pm
Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby’s birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father.

So he admits to unprotected sex here?

49 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:31:45pm

I could care less.

50 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:31:52pm

Looks like Edwards was channeling his penis...if you know what I mean.

51 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:32:12pm

re: #38 gonecamping

Well if he didn't love her, then the kid can't be his 'love child'. Perhaps we should call it the 'friendship child.


It could be if he loves the child.

Supposedly Edwards is shelling out $15,000 per month to his new baby's momma.

That's a lot of cash for a baby that isn't yours, don't you think?

52 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:32:14pm
According to friends of Hunter, Edwards met her at a New York city bar in 2006. His political action committee later paid her $114,000 to produce campaign website documentaries despite her lack of experience.

Hey, at least she isn't cheap.

53 bgb!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:32:18pm

Two Americas, two lives.

54 Peacekeeper  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:32:36pm

re: #49 Dirk Diggler

I could care less.

You could? So you do care a little.

55 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:32:38pm

whenever someone with an (R) gets in trouble - OUTRAGE!

whenever someone with a (D) gets in trouble - SADNESS (boohoo)

56 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:32:41pm

re: #37 _RememberTonyC

Two Americas:

One for decent folks
One for people like Edwards

scumbag

He has the right to be a lying scum ambulance chasing rat cheating on his cancer stricken wife etc...
Of course his wife also has the right to divorce him and take him for pretty much everything and stick all the money into an untouchable trust fund for her kids...

57 jill e  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:32:48pm

To strengthen families, we must redouble efforts to reduce out-of-wedlock pregnancies, make work pay, eliminate tax policies that inadvertently penalize marriage, and require absent fathers to pay child support while offering them new opportunities to find work. Because every child needs the attention of at least one caring and competent adult, we should create an “extended family” of adult volunteer mentors.—John Edwards

58 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:32:52pm

re: #26 HelloDare

Bite your tongue!

Gavin was bad enough!

59 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:33:12pm
His political action committee later paid her $114,000....

Can this guy be sued? Arrested?

60 Rogue198  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:33:26pm

Wow...what a day...war in Russia and Edwards admits he's a lying sugar daddy scumbag.

61 StinkHammer  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:33:28pm

Good point by Steven Spruiell:

Overheard in the office: "Why would Edwards admit the affair but deny fathering the child?"

I'll tell you why: Elizabeth Edwards was diagnosed with incurable cancer in late March of 2007. Rielle Hunter's baby was born in late February of 2008. That means that if Edwards is the father, he was definitely still carrying on the affair with Hunter after he knew his wife's cancer was back.

62 johnnyreb  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:33:30pm

Why is this not plastered all over the front pages of every news source? It would have been if he was an "R".

On never mind, he is a D. Sad........

63 MilkOfMalfeasance  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:33:30pm

Any legal ramifications here?

64 saberry0530  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:33:38pm

re: #45 Oh no...Sand People!

When do we get the 'Obligatory photo op at the Press Conference where the wife in a 'Jackie' style dress (most likely blue) standsstained by her man in silence.

/couldn't resist

65 gallatin  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:33:40pm

I think this disclosure admitting the affair late on a Friday is simply news management 101. I wouldn't be surprised to see Edwards to drop the other shoe and admit to paternity either a Friday or two from
now or during a more newsworthy event. Maybe he'll wait until the de facto Russian/Georgian war
heats up a little more. He won't be speaking at the convention, that's certain.
-Gallatin

66 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:00pm
67 IgofAntioch  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:04pm

This qualifies him for a top position in the Democratic Party!

68 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:07pm

re: #60 Rogue198

Wow...what a day...war in Russia and Edwards admits he's a lying sugar daddy scumbag.

All under the hopes that the Olympics will minimize the damage...

69 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:26pm

Wow.

THe MSM really really really really ignored this and kept it quiet.

70 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:38pm

re: #45 Oh no...Sand People!

If so, I'm going to throw up on the spot.

71 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:39pm

I can think of absolutely nothing good about this man. How in the world did he get so much support in the first place.

72 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:41pm

I want the kid's DNA checked. Take a hair sample from both of them. That should settle it. /

73 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:42pm

re: #48 faraway

So he admits to unprotected sex here?

It was protected sex... protected from the public by some of the press that is... well... until the story finally broke and spewed itself everywhere in spite of the denials and such from the parts of the press who didn't want to face the fact and possible implications...

74 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:46pm

If I were this woman, I'd be filing a motion to order a paternity test.

75 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:34:51pm

PK,

You could? So you do care a little.

I don't give two shits about John Edwards sex life.

Does that clear it up for you, granola stater?

76 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:10pm

Enquirer in the new NYTIMES.

77 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:10pm

re: #63 MilkOfMalfeasance

Any legal ramifications here?

/possible marital dissolution and/or child support action

78 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:17pm

Please forgive me, but Elizabeth Edwards is still alive, isn't she? What an awful situation for her.

79 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:18pm

This will likely end his career. And he and Gary Hart can sit around the rest of their days wondering how Clinton just sailed right along, as affair after affair after affair came to light.

80 greygandalf  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:21pm

guess he hopes olympics and russia will push this announcement out of the news. It probably will too.

81 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:23pm

Well, I guess the headline of the day is not "The Russians are Coming.."

82 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:24pm

re: #72 HelloDare

Too much hair gel on JE for an accurate sample.

83 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:39pm

re: #48 faraway

So he admits to unprotected sex here?


He's a slimy sack of @#$ lawyer. He won't admit to anything until the evidence is waved in his face (as it has been repeatedly in this case), and even then probably not.

I wonder what Bill would have done if Monica had his "love child".

Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby’s birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father.


So he'll have no problem with paternity testing then, will he?

Of course, why would Mommy want to have such testing done, when it could potentially end her $15,000 per month meal ticket?

See where this goes?

84 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:41pm

Wonder if he wears a hair net when he has sex?

85 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:35:47pm

re: #59 faraway

That might be very possible, the question is "who would prosecute it with the full foreknowledge they'll be accused of a political witch hunt etc"...

86 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:36:32pm

re: #67 IgofAntioch

This qualifies him for a top position in the Democratic Party!

I'm gonna' refrain.

87 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:36:48pm

re: #86 MandyManners

Yes. Do.

88 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:36:48pm

re: #77 Killian Bundy

possible marital dissolution and/or child support action

/oh, and paternity determination

89 Racer X  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:36:53pm

re: #55 FrogMarch

whenever someone with an (R) gets in trouble - OUTRAGE!

whenever someone with a (D) gets in trouble - SADNESS (boohoo)

C'mon, everyone knows Dems are EXPECTED to cheat and lie about it.

90 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:37:03pm

Am I allowed to have just a little bit of schadenfreude, please?

/Because I do. lots of it.

91 saberry0530  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:37:14pm

AT least Edwards, unlike Bill CLinton, hit what he was aiming at!

92 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:37:20pm
but said that he did not love her.

Oh. Well OK then.

93 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:37:26pm

re: #74 MandyManners

If I were this woman, I'd be filing a motion to order a paternity test.



WARNING: I'm about to be VERY judgmental, based (especially) on personal bias:

Any woman who knowingly gets involved with a married man is trash. He's worse because he's the one breaking the vow, but she's almost as bad.

94 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:37:30pm

re: #78 goddessoftheclassroom

Please forgive me, but Elizabeth Edwards is still alive, isn't she? What an awful situation for her.

I'd be having the locks changed if I were in her shoes.

95 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:37:44pm

re: #56 anotherindyfilmguy

I hope that's precisely what she does. Poor woman.

After everything she went through after their son died to have more children, after the illness, after serving his campaign loyally and vocally, then getting sick again, his behavior needs to be punished.

96 StinkHammer  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:37:46pm

re: #45 Oh no...Sand People!

When do we get the 'Obligatory photo op at the Press Conference where the wife in a 'Jackie' style dress (most likely blue) stands by her man in silence.

Did you ever see the MadTV skit (spoofing the whole l'affaire d'Spitzer) where the offending pol admits in a press conference to engaging in over-the-top sexual exploits (documented with photographs), yet expects his misses to stand devotedly by his side the whole time?

It's a riot. I'll look for a YouTube link if one's available....

97 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:37:48pm

Guess this makes Former Sen. Edwards previous statements regarding this situation - "INOPERATIVE."

-S-

98 WayDownSouthInBama  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:38:16pm

Compare the coverage of Edwards with any number of Republicans. The MSM wouldn't touch the Edwards story claiming it was only rumor and beneath their "journalistic standards". But you let ANY rumor get started on a Republican,then their so-called journalistic standards aren't in play any more. The rumors on Republicans get front page billing in spite of how questionable the source.

The bottom line is that the MSM have no journalistic standards to go beneath. They are dedicated leftists who have spent several years now helping terrorists (think NYT),trashing America in the war in Iraq, trying to convince everyone the economy is in a depression, and doing it while trashing Republicans and kissing the Democrats a$$e$. You know your paper really,truly sux big time when the National Enquirer scoops you for nearly a year.

99 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:38:23pm

Let's say, just for a moment, that Elizabeth Edwards not only knew, but maybe even allowed John to fool around outside the marriage. Stranger things have happened.

How did he think, for even one second, that the American public would not condemn him, a nationally known politician with Presidential aspirations, when the news came out that he was having an affair, while his wife was sick with cancer. One of those punks in the legislature might get away with it, depending on their core constituency, but nationally?

100 Bob in Breckenridge  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:38:24pm

Make some room under the bus, because the hoping-to-be AG in the Obama administration is about to get tossed there...

101 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:38:33pm

re: #84 HelloDare

Wonder if he wears a hair net when he has sex?

ROFLMAO!

102 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:38:58pm

re: #90 astronmr20

Do you wear lederhosen whe you do that?

103 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:39:01pm

re: #59 faraway

Nope. There's no crime here, no matter how sleazy it looks.

104 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:39:04pm

re: #11 Ben Hur

His poor wife.

And that poor baby - apparently, no man is stepping up to take responsibility as the father.

105 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:39:05pm

re: #94 MandyManners

I'd be having the locks changed if I were in her shoes.

If she has the strength to deal with this. I hope she has someone to stand up for her.

106 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:39:08pm

re: #74 MandyManners

If I were this woman, I'd be filing a motion to order a paternity test.


Not necessarily.

Per the Enquirer (which broke this story, and owned it since its inception), Hunter is currently being paid $15,000 per month by Edwards.

$180,000 per year is adequate child support by any stretch.

Why would she want to rock the boat unless she were certain to get more than that, particularly when the daddy is a well-connected and wealthy lawyer?

107 MilkOfMalfeasance  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:39:19pm

re: #77 Killian Bundy

What about the whole lying to the American Public while campaigning for the highest office?

108 Winmag  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:39:27pm

This is going to give trial lawyer Democratic politicians a bad name.

109 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:39:48pm

I bet Mrs. Edwards recognized that weird blue t-shirt he was wearing while holding the baby.

110 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:39:58pm

re: #93 goddessoftheclassroom


WARNING: I'm about to be VERY judgmental, based (especially) on personal bias:

Any woman who knowingly gets involved with a married man is trash. He's worse because he's the one breaking the vow, but she's almost as bad.

Yep.

111 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:40:26pm

Nat'l Enquirer 1

NYTs 0

112 SummerSong  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:40:26pm

As much as I am gratified that he's finally decided to tell the truth, there is no joy in this for anyone.

On another note, my largest stock holding is up $4 + today and that makes me extremely joyful!

113 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:40:36pm

Aren't we the bunch of moralizers!

114 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:40:40pm

re: #93 goddessoftheclassroom


WARNING: I'm about to be VERY judgmental, based (especially) on personal bias:

Any woman who knowingly gets involved with a married man is trash. He's worse because he's the one breaking the vow, but she's almost as bad.

Amen sister.

115 MilkOfMalfeasance  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:40:44pm

re: #79 Silhouette

MSNBC is putting his name on a chair as we speak I would imagine.

116 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:40:56pm

John Edwards = scumbagn

117 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:11pm

I'm tempted to peek at what the kos kids are saying about this, but I just showered.

118 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:13pm

re: #108 Winmag

This is going to give trial lawyer Democratic politicians a bad name.

Too late!

119 right_on_target  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:13pm

ABC News says it is their EXCLUSIVE ! on their website:

EXCLUSIVE: Edwards Admits to Sexual Affair; Lied as Presidential Candidate

120 varmint  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:35pm

i picked up an L.A. times this morning. what must the world look like to people who only get their news from this paper? elizabeth edwards would still think her marriage was fine, i would think the guy who was arrested in florida by the secret service only hated obama and never mentioned bush, most would not even know the name of the republican nominee.

121 Racer X  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:36pm

Kinda makes tapping your toe in a bathroom stall a little weak huh?

Oh, wait....

122 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:42pm

re: #105 goddessoftheclassroom

If she has the strength to deal with this. I hope she has someone to stand up for her.

I bet she knows plenty of attorneys.

123 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:42pm

re: #21 taxfreekiller

Well Well

A Democrat that will drill.


ROTFLMAO!

I need a new monitor now!

124 Desert Dog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:44pm
125 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:47pm

re: #70 Dianna

If so, I'm going to throw up on the spot.

10 bucks says it's going to happen shortly. I bet to throw a curveball the MSM is going to coach Edwards to ensure his wife wears a different color dress aside from blue, however.

126 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:50pm

re: #119 right_on_target

ABC News says it is their EXCLUSIVE ! on their website:

EXCLUSIVE: Edwards Admits to Sexual Affair; Lied as Presidential Candidate

LOL.

Stupid MSM.

127 Rogue198  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:41:53pm

re: #68 Oh no...Sand People!

All under the hopes that the Olympics will minimize the damage...


The MSM is going to be in a tizzy on with what to lead with tonight.

128 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:42:02pm

What a spineless pos. He's the father but won't admit it because of the legal implications, nothing more.

129 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:42:03pm

Kos Kidz declare it a dead issue. Time to move on.

Sorry to all of the Edwards supporters here. It seems that yes, it is true, Edwards was sleeping around as the National Enquirer claimed.

Big Deal.

Edwards is not the Democratic Candidate for President.

Edwards will not be the Democratic candidate for Vice President.

Mr Magu's diary :: ::
I implore everyone to move on from this immediately.

Get in your "I told you so's," "he's a scumbag," "poor Elizabeth," etc.

And then let it go.

The Issue here is that the Republicans will somehow try to make this a reflection on the Democratic Party, and by association, a reflection on our Presidential Candidate Barack Obama.

This is now a dead issue.

Move forward and put the energy into what is important...

Getting Obama Elected.

That is it.

130 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:42:11pm

re: #106 looking closely

Not necessarily.

Per the Enquirer (which broke this story, and owned it since its inception), Hunter is currently being paid $15,000 per month by Edwards.

$180,000 per year is adequate child support by any stretch.

Why would she want to rock the boat unless she were certain to get more than that, particularly when the daddy is a well-connected and wealthy lawyer?

He called her a slut! No way would I stand still for that.

131 gymnast  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:42:26pm

The Son of a Bitch and philandering flim-flam lawyer, Edwards, even lies when he claims to be coming clean. Like the scorpion on the frogs back, the true nature of a trail lawyer and Liberal Democrat is not to be denied.

132 johnnyreb  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:42:39pm

re: #110 MandyManners

Yep.

Just a mans point of view here, but I would think they both have an equal share of guilt. I mean apparently she knew he was married. In my eyes thats the same thing. She knew who he was and what was going on, I mean come on he was all over TV and the newspapers. Just my opinion.

133 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:42:44pm

re: #99 CyanSnowHawk

Let's say, just for a moment, that Elizabeth Edwards not only knew, but maybe even allowed John to fool around outside the marriage. Stranger things have happened.


I don't think its such a crazy supposition. Why did Hilary stick with Bill forever?

I don't know Elizabeth Edwards, this is just rank speculation, but its *possible* that this was a "marriage of convenience". He's a very rich guy who may not even be home all that much.

I don't think this is the case, and things certainly look bad. . .but not having heard her side of the story, I'm in no position to judge.

134 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:42:47pm

re: #124 Desert Dog

Pictures, we got pictures

Nice bangs.

135 Racer X  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:42:51pm

re: #124 Desert Dog

Pictures, we got pictures

Yikes!

He was aiming at that?

136 HBob  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:42:54pm

Two Americas... two ladies!

137 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:43:06pm

re: #96 StinkHammer

Did you ever see the MadTV skit (spoofing the whole l'affaire d'Spitzer) where the offending pol admits in a press conference to engaging in over-the-top sexual exploits (documented with photographs), yet expects his misses to stand devotedly by his side the whole time?

It's a riot. I'll look for a YouTube link if one's available....

Please find it.

138 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:43:07pm

He'll be fine.

Half of Dem women would change places with that chick.

139 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:43:19pm

re: #65 gallatin

I wouldn't be surprised to see Edwards to drop the other shoe and admit to paternity either a Friday or two from
now

Breaking the news slowly.

A man goes on vacation and his brother watches his house. The man calls home to ask how everything is going and his brother says, "Your cat died."

"What? Why did you have to tell me like that. You could have broken it to me slowly."

"How?"

"Well, you could have said today that the cat was on the roof, and you can't get her down. Tomorrow, you could tell me that you got her down, but she's at the vets because of exposure. Then the next day, I'd be a little more prepared, and you could tell me she died."

"You're right. I'm sorry."

"That's okay. How's Mom?"

"Oh, she's on the roof and we can't get her down."

140 Spiker  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:43:24pm

I just read some comments posted on the ABC story that Drudge linked to. Unbelieveable. "Leave him alone, let the family heal" and "who cares, he isn't running for President now" etc. It's making me ill. If the Silky Pony had an "R" after his name these same sympathetic souls would be tearing him to shreds right now.

141 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:43:51pm

re: #129 JammieWearingFool

The Issue here is that the Republicans will somehow try to make this a reflection on the Democratic Party, and by association, a reflection on our Presidential Candidate Barack Obama.

Projection?

142 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:44:09pm

re: #132 johnnyreb

Just a mans point of view here, but I would think they both have an equal share of guilt. I mean apparently she knew he was married. In my eyes thats the same thing. She knew who he was and what was going on, I mean come on he was all over TV and the newspapers. Just my opinion.

She's not the one who took an oath.

143 Killian Bundy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:44:10pm

re: #107 MilkOfMalfeasance

What about the whole lying to the American Public while campaigning for the highest office?

That's not a crime.

/if it were . . .

144 BingoBunny  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:44:13pm

drip drip drip

/one truth at a time.. stay tuned

/I'd give a "nut" to Jesse Jackson to see a divorce

145 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:44:23pm

re: #104 reine.de.tout

One of Edwards' aides has stepped up. Of course, he stepped up and claimed an affair while Edwards was still denying it...

146 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:44:38pm

Hope Moms has a good attorney.

147 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:44:38pm

re: #140 Spiker

I just read some comments posted on the ABC story that Drudge linked to. Unbelieveable. "Leave him alone, let the family heal" and "who cares, he isn't running for President now" etc. It's making me ill. If the Silky Pony had an "R" after his name these same sympathetic souls would be tearing him to shreds right now.

"Let the family heal". Whoa.

Are there any comments over there expressing any sort of dismay that this child has a father who will not admit to being her father?

148 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:45:14pm

Time for Silky Pony's political career to go out to pasture.

149 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:45:23pm

Hey, if were Obama, I'd understand. But Edwards' wife seemed so nice. /

150 markx  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:45:37pm

re: #130 MandyManners

Hunter is currently being paid $15,000 per month by Edwards.

He called her a slut! No way would I stand still for that.

Exactly.

If she is getting paid she's not a slut, she's a prostitute.

151 HBob  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:45:50pm

re: #140 Spiker

I just read some comments posted on the ABC story that Drudge linked to. Unbelieveable. "Leave him alone, let the family heal" and "who cares, he isn't running for President now" etc. It's making me ill. If the Silky Pony had an "R" after his name these same sympathetic souls would be tearing him to shreds right now.

That's because if you have a "D" after your name implies that you never made any promise that you'd hold yourself to any standards - so why not fool around?

152 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:45:55pm

Of course the MSM had nooo idea and didn't willfully cooperate in the cover up.

153 DaddyG  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:46:14pm

re: #84 HelloDare

Wonder if he wears a hair net when he has sex?

Pass the brain bleach!

154 MilkOfMalfeasance  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:46:23pm

re: #117 HelloDare

I'm tempted to peek at what the kos kids are saying about this, but I just showered.

Not a peep about it on there. Just checked. Just a bunch of McCain Hate.

155 Racer X  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:46:29pm

re: #140 Spiker

I just read some comments posted on the ABC story that Drudge linked to. Unbelieveable. "Leave him alone, let the family heal" and "who cares, he isn't running for President now" etc. It's making me ill. If the Silky Pony had an "R" after his name these same sympathetic souls would be tearing him to shreds right now.

Abso-fucking-lutely!

156 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:46:31pm

re: #127 Rogue198

The MSM is going to be in a tizzy on with what to lead with tonight.

They're going to want this to cool down to a less explosive issue before the convention, so I expect the MSM'll just be happy Edwards was pressured to break it now, and will try to play dutiful reporters and get it over with.

(i.e., page 94 in the D section of the NYTimes)

157 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:46:33pm

When a someone cheats on a spouse, it's devastating for their children. The baby is too young to know what's happening, but spare a thought for the Edwards's children.

158 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:46:38pm

re: #84 HelloDare

Wonder if he wears a hair net when he has sex?

hahahahahaahhaha

159 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:46:49pm

re: #150 markx

Exactly.

If she is getting paid she's not a slut, she's a prostitute.

for 15k a month, he could call me ANYTHING he wants

160 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:46:50pm

re: #150 markx

Exactly.

If she is getting paid she's not a slut, she's a prostitute.

Well. Glad you cleared that up.

161 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:46:58pm

re: #106 looking closely

Because he's calling her a slut. She may be one - having an affair with a married man doesn't exactly make you a saint - but essentially having Edwards say she slept with everyone (by implication) would tend to make a woman a touch irate.

Remember, she had the baby. She didn't have to. She may not be quite as awful a person as we're initially inclined to think.

162 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:47:17pm

re: #141 Ben Hur

Projection?

There are several Kos Kid posts already. Projection meter broke already.

A litany of rationalizations and excuses. Really pathetic.

163 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:47:28pm

re: #93 goddessoftheclassroom


Any woman who knowingly gets involved with a married man is trash. He's worse because he's the one breaking the vow, but she's almost as bad.


In this case its even worse than simple infidelity.

This woman (Rielle Hunter, aka Lisa Druck) apparently knowingly had his baby. She's not some stupid teenager (IIRC, she's 44 years old); she's heard of birth control (and dare I say, abortion)?

So it seems pretty clear that she wanted something from Edwards. Maybe just his "love", though the cynic in me thinks its more than that.

164 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:47:33pm

Bill & Edwards........... The joke that keeps on giving.

165 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:47:34pm

re: #140 Spiker

I just read some comments posted on the ABC story that Drudge linked to. Unbelieveable. "Leave him alone, let the family heal" and "who cares, he isn't running for President now" etc. It's making me ill. If the Silky Pony had an "R" after his name these same sympathetic souls would be tearing him to shreds right now.

The Huffington Post would have a full on article to behead him...then let the moonbat commenters have their way with their keyboards...

166 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:47:39pm

re: #157 goddessoftheclassroom

When a someone cheats on a spouse, it's devastating for their children. The baby is too young to know what's happening, but spare a thought for the Edwards's children.

I did. But the schadenfreude is soo overwhelming. Sorry.

167 StinkHammer  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:47:40pm

re: #129 JammieWearingFool

"The Issue here is that the Republicans will somehow try to make this a reflection on the Democratic Party, and by association, a reflection on our Presidential Candidate Barack Obama."

Yeah, like any singular Republican wrongdoing is NEVER portrayed by lefty nimrods as a reflection of the entire party....

[Retch]

168 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:47:49pm

re: #84 HelloDare

Wonder if he wears a hair net when he has sex?

[Link: www.slate.com...]

169 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:47:49pm

re: #95 Dianna

Yes.
How anyone - male or female - can have any thoughts of sex affairs while the spouse has terminal cancer is just utterly beyond me. I honestly cannot understand that.
My husband died of cancer - it is just totally incomprehensible to me that someone is capable of staining the last months or weeks of one's spouse's life with such despicable behaviour.

170 conservativeChick  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:48:12pm

I can't believe that there are liberal bloogers out there defending Edwards. Like saying John McCain did it to with his lobbyist or its just sex everybody does it. What a bunch of moral challenged douche bags.

171 HBob  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:48:14pm

re: #150 markx

Exactly.

If she is getting paid she's not a slut, she's a prostitute whore.

172 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:48:16pm

Joke on Michael Medved's show:

Dick Cheney doesn't make babies. He eats them.

173 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:48:20pm

re: #157 goddessoftheclassroom


sick isn't it. I hope Edwards wife takes him to the poor farm.

174 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:48:21pm

I thought the MSM's main reason for not running with this story initially is that he is no longer in the public eye.

Strange, since the story is now the flash headline on every single MSM news website (except USA Today).

175 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:48:42pm

re: #159 sattv4u2

I don't know, 15k sounds kind of chintzy from such a wealthy man with a huge carbon footprint.Also, what's up with the Andrew Young payoff, some kind of shakedown? Hmmmm.

176 kawfytawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:48:42pm

re: #160 MandyManners

mandy did you get that link?

177 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:48:54pm

re: #130 MandyManners

He called her a slut! No way would I stand still for that.

For $180,000 a year, I'd let you call me whatever the heck you liked.

(Particularly if you were a slimy lawyer caught with little credibility to begin with, caught with his hand in the cookie jar).

178 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:48:56pm

re: #157 goddessoftheclassroom

When a someone cheats on a spouse, it's devastating for their children. The baby is too young to know what's happening, but spare a thought for the Edwards's children.

You are right, as usual. First what is happening with their mother and now this. Those kids are going to be messed up for a long time.

179 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:49:19pm

re: #164 Dustoff-507

Bill & Edwards.& Howard Dean & John Kerry & Nancy Pelosi & Barry Obama & Chuck Shumer & Al Gore & & & &.......... The joke that keeps on giving.

180 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:49:21pm

re: #170 conservativeChick

I can't believe that there are liberal bloogers out there defending Edwards. Like saying John McCain did it to with his lobbyist or its just sex everybody does it. What a bunch of moral challenged douche bags.

Relativity at it's finest!
/

181 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:49:27pm

re: #163 looking closely


I guess Edwards never heard of birth control either.

182 Desert Dog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:49:27pm
183 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:49:34pm

re: #129 JammieWearingFool

From their pov, he's got a point.

184 littleoldlady  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:49:40pm

re: #169 yma o hyd

{yma o hyd}

185 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:49:56pm

re: #172 HelloDare

Joke on Michael Medved's show:

Dick Cheney doesn't make babies. He eats them.

Damn straight. And he so manly that when he has girls, they are lesbians.

186 Spiker  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:13pm

#147
I agree. Sad situation all around.

187 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:19pm

Edwards was pressured to come clean on this because it was going to hurt his chances of any position within the DNC at the convention or into Obama's administration should he be elected. This could potentially clear the way to allow that to happen.

Of course, the guy is a shameless liar and whether Elizabeth forgives him or not is up to her. If I were in her place, I'd be looking to take him to the cleaners.

I think the timing is also curious. Friday night news dump.

188 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:21pm

re: #161 Dianna

Remember, she had the baby. She didn't have to. She may not be quite as awful a person as we're initially inclined to think.

Unless having the baby was just a way to get money out of Edwards.

189 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:24pm

re: #173 Dustoff-507

sick isn't it. I hope Edwards wife takes him to the poor farm.

She'll probably take the Hillary route.

190 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:29pm

Edwards went out of the hotel briefly with Rielle, they were observed by the NATIONAL ENQUIRER and then went back to her room, where he stayed until attempting to sneak out of the hotel unseen at 2:40 a.m. (PST). But when he emerged alone from an elevator into the hotel basement he was greeted by several reporters from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

Senior NATIONAL ENQUIRER Reporter Alexander Hitchen asked Edwards why he was visiting Rielle and whether he was ready to confirm that he was the father of her baby.

Shocked to see a reporter, and without saying anything, Edwards ran up the stairs leading from the hotel basement to the lobby. But, spotting a photographer, he doubled back into the basement. As he emerged from the stairwell, reporter Butterfield questioned him about his hookup with Rielle.

Edwards did not answer and then ran into a nearby restroom. He stayed inside for about 15 minutes, refusing to answer questions from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER about what he was doing in the hotel. A group of hotel security men eventually escorted him from the men's room, while preventing the NATIONAL ENQUIRER reporters from following him out of the hotel.

191 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:33pm

Nice timing.

The story drops on a Friday afternoon during the dog days of summer and the interview will air the same night as the opening ceremonies at the Olympics.

The Silky Pomy may be stupid, but he 'aint that stupid.

192 HoosierHoops  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:40pm

re: #35 goddessoftheclassroom

Hey, Austin Powers didn't pretend to be anything other than what he was! I could enjoy having dinner with Austin Powers--I couldn't stand to be in the same ROOM as Edwards!


oohhh beehhaveee baby!
/my accent sucks

193 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:41pm

John Edwards to Elizabeth Edwards:

"Yeah, I f*****d her, so what, I make LOVE to You!"

/Eddie Murphy 'Raw'

194 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:43pm

re: #145 Dianna

One of Edwards' aides has stepped up. Of course, he stepped up and claimed an affair while Edwards was still denying it...

If Silky's paternity is proved possible or admitted, what I'd really LOVE to know is what Edwards used on this aide - blackmail or cash deal - to get the married aide to put himself in the situation he is now. This can only get worse better

:)

195 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:50:52pm
196 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:51:17pm

Turns out he's also lying about talking to dead people.
Wait, that's John Edward.

197 DaddyO  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:51:24pm

re: #124 Desert Dog

Pictures, we got pictures


Makes Ashlee Dupre look good.

198 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:51:34pm

re: #132 johnnyreb

She could simply have been star-struck, of course. It doesn't excuse her, but we don't know what she felt or thought.

I do point out that she had the baby, and the kid looks cute and well-cared for.

199 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:51:36pm

re: #176 kawfytawk

mandy did you get that link?

What link?

200 StinkHammer  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:51:54pm

re: #139 Silhouette

I remember a version of that joke from the movie Capricorn One (one of my favorite not-so-credible adventure flix). It was the joke Sam Waterston was telling to himself as he scaled a massive cliff. I still get a chuckle out of it.

201 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:52:03pm

..and the moral of the story, kids:

"Wrap it up."

202 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:52:08pm

re: #189 HelloDare


Nooooooooooooooooooooo. (-:

203 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:52:15pm

McCain consults with Merlin, who uses his magic to transform the king into the likeness of Edwards and thus gain access to Rielle Hunter at Beverly Hilton. He spends the night with her, and they conceive a son, Arthur.

They're right!

It was McCain!

204 WayDownSouthInBama  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:52:29pm

NOBODY,and I do mean NOBODY, is going to fork over $15,000.00 per month unless you KNOW you are the Daddy. Especially a lawyer. It's just that simple.

205 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:52:33pm

re: #173 Dustoff-507

sick isn't it. I hope Edwards wife takes him to the poor farm.

I'd boot his butt outta' the house.

206 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:52:37pm

re: #195 Kenneth

OT... Iran: “We have started the first activities of nuclear fusion.”

WTF?

Russia, Edwards, Iran?

Merry OLYMPICS to all and hope we survive through the year!

207 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:52:58pm

New Moonbat bumper sticker:

When John Edwards lied nobody died

208 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:52:58pm

re: #181 Dustoff-507

I guess Edwards never heard of birth control either.


He may have been lied to.

Her birth control may not have worked (or his didn't), either accidentally (on purpose) then she decided she wanted to keep the baby.

Much stranger things have happened.

(And no, I'm not saying he's the "victim" here, though clearly he got a lot more than he bargained for!).

209 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:01pm

re: #187 lawhawk

Edwards was pressured to come clean on this because it was going to hurt his chances of any position within the DNC at the convention or into Obama's administration should he be elected. This could potentially clear the way to allow that to happen.

Of course, the guy is a shameless liar and whether Elizabeth forgives him or not is up to her. If I were in her place, I'd be looking to take him to the cleaners.

I think the timing is also curious. Friday night news dump.

During the Olympics opening, no less.

I question the timing.

210 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:02pm

re: #197 DaddyO

HEY dude, I just had lunch. (-:

Don't scare me like that.

211 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:07pm

re: #192 HoosierHoops

oohhh beehhaveee baby!
/my accent sucks

I'm laughing here! But you see what I mean?

212 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:18pm

re: #177 looking closely

For $180,000 a year, I'd let you call me whatever the heck you liked.

(Particularly if you were a slimy lawyer caught with little credibility to begin with, caught with his hand in the cookie jar).

Virtue and reputation are priceless.

213 dgax65  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:25pm
Edwards reportedly told ABC News that his wife, who has been diagnosed with an incurable form of cancer, learned of the affair in 2006, as did his family. He said the cancer was in remission when the affair began.

I would think that an honorable man would look at his wife's cancer going into remission as an opportunity to spend more time with her. I know that I would look at it as a second lease on life and love; a gift to be cherished. Not this guy. He uses it as an excuse. Somehow that makes it better? You can't get much lower than that. It isn't surprising though. He used her illness as a campaign prop. You can't find the depth of his immorality because he keeps digging deeper.

Cheap, worthless excuse for a human being.

214 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:39pm
215 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:40pm

re: #205 MandyManners


After he has grass installed. (-:

216 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:44pm
And an Internet write up of a 2005 interview she apparently gave to Breathe Magazine described her as a "formerly hard-partying girl who claims that she found enlightenment."

How much did the videos cost? According to campaign finance reports, the One America Committee made four payments of $12,500 and two of $25,000, for a total of $100,000 to Midline Groove Productions in the second half of 2006.


from huffPost

Wait, I finally get it. This chick is a prostitute just like Ashley Dupre.

Johnny was trying to tell us that when he said he didn't love her.

217 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:45pm

re: #206 Oh no...Sand People!

Russia, Edwards, Iran?

Merry OLYMPICS to all and hope we survive through the year!


08/08/08 is coming true as being a very interesting day indeed...

218 kawfytawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:53:55pm

re: #199 MandyManners

I couldn't find her website anymore but here is a screen shot of it

twisted home wrecker

I keep searching for the real link....I got it from a spinoff here

219 eaglewingz08  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:54:00pm

So now we are asked to believe that both Edwards and Young were both bonking the same woman within the same time period, and that Young successfully impregnated her, but that only Edwards was visiting her surreptitiously in high priced hotel rooms?

I feel so sorry for Silky Pony's wife. To be battling a life threatening illness while one's husband is bedding someone else, would truly be a shock to the system. This is the kind of additional stress that no one in that situation should have to bear.

I'd like to hear all the mea culpas from all those 'all the news fit to print' publications that boycotted this story.

220 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:54:00pm

I agree that we should not focus on his infidelity.

He's not running.

He's a Dem.

We all know the drill.

We SHOULD be focusing on the MSMs complacency.

221 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:54:20pm

re: #187 lawhawk

re: #209 JammieWearingFool

GMTA!

BTW, Jammie Howie is having a field day right now.

222 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:54:30pm

re: #124 Desert Dog

Pictures, we got pictures

What the hell happened to the Democratic Party? I mean, JFK scored with Marilyn Monroe, FFS!

223 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:54:46pm

re: #208 looking closely


I hope this self serving puke, get's all he deserves.

224 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:54:55pm

But really, how is this helping Michelle Obama's kids?

225 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:55:01pm

He was duped.

Someone's gotta feed the monkey.

226 SFGoth  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:55:08pm

Of all the Dems who've run recently, he's the biggest asshole there is, even over Kerry. At least Kerry didn't pretend he wasn't a rich SOB. The sanctimony along with that hillbilly drawl of his.... God he's insufferable.

227 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:55:09pm

re: #157 goddessoftheclassroom

I am.

Maybe it's why I'm so very disgusted and angry.

228 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:55:13pm

re: #133 looking closely

I don't think its such a crazy supposition. Why did Hilary stick with Bill forever?

I don't know Elizabeth Edwards, this is just rank speculation, but its *possible* that this was a "marriage of convenience". He's a very rich guy who may not even be home all that much.

I don't think this is the case, and things certainly look bad. . .but not having heard her side of the story, I'm in no position to judge.

It doesn't even have to be a marriage of convenience. Some people do just fine with open sexuality as part of their marriage. I've seen some non-traditional hook ups before, but not knowing the details of their relationship, I will not judge it. But at the same time, I think what he was doing was monumentally stupid and that is based on his not knowing, or not caring what the backlash would be. A fine slap in the face to those that he purports to represent, and a hedonistic spectacle for the generally traditionally minded America.

229 Kenneth  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:55:19pm

Canadian Border Guards Stop Phelps Creeps

Canadian border guards are under orders to prevent members of a fundamentalist American church from crossing into Canada to protest at the Saturday funeral for a Winnipeg man brutally killed on a Greyhound bus last week.

230 johnnyreb  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:55:20pm

re: #198 Dianna


No we don't know what she was thinking. We most likely never will as the MSM will not do the obligatory interview with her that they would if it was an "R" caught up on this.

I am sure she is hating all this attention now. But she has the baby and didn't do the abortion thing. That gives her a big mark up in my eyes.

But she knew he was married.

231 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:55:27pm

re: #150 markx

Exactly.

If she is getting paid she's not a slut, she's a prostitute.

And he's a whattyacallit?

232 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:55:44pm

re: #212 MandyManners

Virtue and reputation are priceless.

Absolutely.

Funny enough, if this were a "one-night stand"--a moment of weakness--as wrong as that is, I would find it forgivable. It's the intimacy of a long-term affair that's such a betrayal.

233 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:55:46pm
234 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:56:00pm

re: #207 loppyd

New Moonbat bumper sticker:

When John Edwards lied nobody died

Somebody was born.

235 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:56:06pm

re: #184 littleoldlady

Thank you, very very much indeed!

236 markx  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:56:06pm

re: #219 eaglewingz08

So now we are asked to believe that both Edwards and Young were both bonking the same woman within the same time period, and that Young successfully impregnated her...

So, the Silky Pony was shooting blanks?

/not surprised actually

237 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:56:17pm

re: #233 taxfreekiller

Phone call:

Wait until I leave for my vacation in Hawaii, use Friday afternoon.

OK, you talk to George about the money, see you in Denver.

No doubt!

238 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:56:24pm

re: #169 yma o hyd

Oh, yes. It's just so awful. I'm very sorry you went through that.

239 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:56:30pm

re: #221 loppyd

re: #209 JammieWearingFool

GMTA!

BTW, Jammie Howie is having a field day right now.

God, I can only imagine. Have to go now. A rare Friday work day and it's time to hit the traffic.

240 Ben Hur  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:56:33pm

BBL

241 markx  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:03pm

re: #231 debutaunt

And he's a whattyacallit?


Idiot?

242 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:06pm

BTW, loppyd, enjoyed the Fenway photos, especially the Nobama t-shirt.

243 kawfytawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:12pm

on her blog she talks about the many excursions with her gurus/teachers/enlighteners

and how on one such experience she was in such a foul mood her "teacher" said she needed more "sessions"....lol

244 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:14pm

I wonder if this chick worked for the Emperor's Club?

I bet there is much more to this. Pass popcorn please. Lots of butter.

245 P. Aaron  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:19pm

Edwards claims "the baby is not his".

Why visit the lady now if he says he "broke off the affair" before she became pregnant?

Or, is Edward's paying her to keep quiet, or is he paying into a college-annuity fund for the child? Why do that?

Guilt?

246 conservativeChick  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:22pm

OMG. From Ace of Spades. This is a classic:
"Edwards denied paying any money to Hunter to keep her from going public but said it was possible some of his friends or supporters may have made payments without telling him."

[Link: minx.cc...]

247 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:29pm

re: #142 MandyManners

She's not the one who took an oath.

Yeah, but she's still poaching.

248 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:44pm

re: #218 kawfytawk

I couldn't find her website anymore but here is a screen shot of it

twisted home wrecker

I keep searching for the real link....I got it from a spinoff here

Oh, that one. Yep. She sounds like an idiot.

249 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:50pm

re: #242 JammieWearingFool

BTW, loppyd, enjoyed the Fenway photos, especially the Nobama t-shirt.

Figured you would like that one.

He was a really nice guy!

250 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:57:53pm

Hmmm, maybe this is why Obama went to home.... Time to run before the bad news hits?

251 StinkHammer  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:12pm

re: #207 loppyd

New Moonbat bumper sticker:

When John Edwards lied nobody died

Oh gawd I can just see it now. Wouldn't be surprised if they were already in the pre-production works.

252 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:24pm

re: #168 MandyManners

[Link: www.slate.com...]

Hilarious!

253 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:27pm

re: #145 Dianna

One of Edwards' aides has stepped up. Of course, he stepped up and claimed an affair while Edwards was still denying it...

Yes, but ya know . . . I think it's very likely that Edwards' is the dad.

This is devastating for his other children, and also awful for this child. Not to mention Elizabeth Edwards - when I see them together, she looks at him like she thinks he's wonderful. This was no marriage of convenience, imo.

254 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:31pm

re: #188 Ford_Prefect

Cynicism is a useful tool, but I think that's going a little far.

Look at the pictures of the baby. I can't believe a kid who looks that happy and healthy - though rather puzzled when Edwards is holding her - is just a means to make money.

255 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:35pm

re: #247 CyanSnowHawk

Yeah, but she's still poaching.

It's not like he tripped and wound up with his dick in her. He knowingly and willingly broak his wedding vows.

256 billsfan28277  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:40pm

A liberal hypocrite?

Wait, that's redundant.

257 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:42pm

If this were Islam, Edwards could have 86 wives and wouldn't need to cheat...or FLDS...(fine...not to leave anyone out... also the early original 'mormons') but who's counting...

258 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:44pm

re: #161 Dianna

Because he's calling her a slut.


Shoe. . .foot.
Walks like duck. . .quacks like duck, etc.
Not that he should talk. . .in the many levels of hell, I think "slut" is about ten levels closer to hell than a slimy trial lawyer who is cheating on his cancer-stricken wife with one. . .but I digress.

She may be one - having an affair with a married man doesn't exactly make you a saint - but essentially having Edwards say she slept with everyone (by implication) would tend to make a woman a touch irate.


I can see that.

Remember, she had the baby. She didn't have to. She may not be quite as awful a person as we're initially inclined to think.


I never assumed she was "awful", just slightly morally challenged.

I think its pretty fair to say that 44 year old women *generally* don't get pregnant unless they want to.

Perhaps she was irresponsible and the birth control didn't work, and perhaps she decided to keep it.

Also, who the hell knows what Edwards said to her behind closed doors. Maybe he told her he'd support the baby if she just kept her mouth shut. It certainly appears that this was the working arrangement. Maybe she coerced him into it, maybe not.

I don't know.

259 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:48pm

re: #185 astronmr20

Damn straight. And he so manly that when he has girls, they are lesbians.

LOL!

260 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:51pm

Yes, I can spell.

261 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:58:55pm

re: #246 conservativeChick


LMAO................ yeah sure, friends.

262 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:59:32pm

Well, so long all, I am off to spend the weekend with my wife and daughter. And after all of this I think I will be giving each of them an extra big hug.

263 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:59:43pm

re: #245 P. Aaron

Edwards claims "the baby is not his".

Why visit the lady now if he says he "broke off the affair" before she became pregnant?

Or, is Edward's paying her to keep quiet, or is he paying into a college-annuity fund for the child? Why do that?

Guilt?

I doubt it's guilt.

It was hush money to keep her quiet while he courted Barry for VP or a promise of Attorney General.

264 jorline  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 12:59:56pm
Edwards said he knew he was not the father based on timing of the baby’s birth on February 27, 2008. He said his affair ended too soon for him to have been the father.

My mother told me about women like this...apparently your's didn't.

It seem John, that you one in a long line.

265 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:00:12pm

re: #169 yma o hyd

Yes.
How anyone - male or female - can have any thoughts of sex affairs while the spouse has terminal cancer is just utterly beyond me. I honestly cannot understand that.
My husband died of cancer - it is just totally incomprehensible to me that someone is capable of staining the last months or weeks of one's spouse's life with such despicable behaviour.

So very sorry for your loss.

I don't think this is all that uncommon. I worked with a man whose wife had terminal cancer - and he carried on an affair with a co-worker. Disgusting. When I found out, I could never, ever, look at him again without that in the back of my mind, all the while thinking how disgusting his behavior was.

266 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:00:26pm

re: #262 Ford_Prefect

Well, so long all, I am off to spend the weekend with my wife and daughter. And after all of this I think I will be giving each of them an extra big hug.

And I bet if anyone treated your daughter the way Edwards has treated his wife, you'd be kncoking on the door...

...or maybe not knocking.

267 RTLM  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:00:28pm
John Edwards has finally admitted he did have an extramarital affair—and he lied about it repeatedly during his campaign

Shocka!
What on Earth will the fawning, sycophantic dipshits at Crooks & Liars do without their infallible icon[?]

/Oh wait - its a large Rovian conspiracy.

What a complete, upright-walking piece of shit.

268 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:00:51pm

re: #262 Ford_Prefect

Great idea.

269 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:01:01pm

re: #262 Ford_Prefect

Well, so long all, I am off to spend the weekend with my wife and daughter. And after all of this I think I will be giving each of them an extra big hug.

Good for you!

270 hazzyday  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:01:13pm

I consider it normal to lie when asked about an affair when one is married. Nothing to get all lawyered up about. Everyone does it. He made poor choices, spent supporters money poorly, trusted the wrong people, was unfaithful when tested. How in the heck did he ever think he was leadership material? And what is it with this goofy aide trying to say he did it?

271 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:01:14pm

re: #209 JammieWearingFool

The timing is impeccable - Start of the Olympic Games, first gold medals going to be won for the USA - who'll care about his 'news'?
It'll be forgotten by Monday, and ancient history come Denver.

272 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:01:59pm

Now the big question....will NBC, CBS or ABC lead with this story and where will the print version appear in tomorrow's papers?

273 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:02:17pm

re: #266 goddessoftheclassroom

And I bet if anyone treated your daughter the way Edwards has treated his wife, you'd be kncoking on the door...

...or maybe not knocking.

I'd be knocking it down!

274 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:02:20pm

John Edwards: "I was wrong to vote for this war. Unfortunately, I'll have to live with that forever. And the lesson I learned from it is to put more faith in my own judgment."

Judgment? What judgment? Thank God he is out of the picture now for any governmental position of responsibility.

275 Ford_Prefect  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:02:38pm

re: #273 Ford_Prefect

I'd be knocking it down!

Hopefully with him under it.

276 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:02:57pm

There are definitely "two Americas". The one where people have integrity and the one where people like John Edwards are so damn arrogant that they think nobody matters but themselves.

What a scumbag.

277 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:03:05pm
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278 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:03:06pm

re: #271 yma o hyd

The timing is impeccable - Start of the Olympic Games, first gold medals going to be won for the USA - who'll care about his 'news'?
It'll be forgotten by Monday, and ancient history come Denver.

He was trying to hold out till war with Iran.

279 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:03:11pm
280 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:03:26pm
It's not like he tripped and wound up with his dick in her.

Don't laugh. It happens.

/

281 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:03:38pm

re: #212 MandyManners

Unfortunately, the lady's already a little short on the virtue front. Which doesn't mean, however, that she deserves any more condemnation than she actually has earned.

282 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:03:58pm

re: #275 Ford_Prefect


You can borrow my HUGE SUV instead. Don't wish to get your hands dirty.

283 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:04:12pm

She's a prostitute.

284 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:04:29pm

re: #263 loppyd

I doubt it's guilt.

It was hush money to keep her quiet while he courted Barry for VP or a promise of Attorney General.

Barry tomorrow, "This is not the John Edwards I once knew."

285 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:04:33pm

re: #230 johnnyreb

I agree with everything you say.

286 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:04:52pm

re: #204 WayDownSouthInBama

NOBODY,and I do mean NOBODY, is going to fork over $15,000.00 per month unless you KNOW you are the Daddy. Especially a lawyer. It's just that simple.

You do if that's small time money to you and you want to keep her from going all Jennifer Flowers on you.

287 jorline  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:04:55pm

OT

Sorry, but oil is below $114 here.

288 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:05:12pm

re: #276 Dahveed

There are definitely "two Americas". The one where people have integrity and the one where people like John Edwards are so damn arrogant that they think nobody nothing matters but themselves their dicks.

What a scumbag.

Slight tweak.

289 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:05:58pm

re: #280 Dirk Diggler

DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRK!

290 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:05:59pm

re: #220 Ben Hur

I agree that we should not focus on his infidelity.

He's not running.

He's a Dem.

We all know the drill.

We SHOULD be focusing on the MSMs complacency.

W.W.C.S. ?

291 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:06:04pm

re: #280 Dirk Diggler

Don't laugh. It happens.

/

The way-ward penis theory?

292 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:06:18pm

re: #287 jorline

OT

Sorry, but oil is below $114 here.

How long before Pelosi claims credit saying that it's because she and the dems were smart enough to not allow the drilling vote

293 Cognito  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:06:24pm
A former campaign aide, Andrew Young, has said he was the father of the child.

Now that's dedication.

Or direct deposit.

294 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:06:29pm

re: #288 MandyManners

Slight tweak.

That's what she said...

295 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:06:47pm

re: #281 Dianna

Unfortunately, the lady's already a little short on the virtue front. Which doesn't mean, however, that she deserves any more condemnation than she actually has earned.

What will that poor kid think when she grows up?

296 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:06:57pm

re: #245 P. Aaron

Edwards claims "the baby is not his".

Why visit the lady now if he says he "broke off the affair" before she became pregnant?

Why visit the baby in the middle of the night if it was not his child?

As I said in an earlier thread, if the paternity news proves true - and as far as the mother ordering a DNA test: you'd be surprised how quickly 15 grand a month can look like peanuts as time goes on, resentment builds, and you get so used to having money you run up debts - I'm sure Edwards will play 'doing the right thing' as a sympathy meme. No-one will want to do press hits involving a defenseless child, so it can eventually work to his advantage if he 'fesses up to being her dad.

297 formercorpsman  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:06:58pm

And you may ask yourself
How do I work this?
And you may ask yourself
Where is that large automobile?
And you may tell yourself
This is not my beautiful house!
And you may tell yourself
This is not my beautiful wife!

298 docremulac  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:07:04pm

Democrats consider it a sacrament and a badge of honor to be lying scumbags.
This guy's no worse than any other Democrat out there.

Notice how the National Enquirer broke the story and the so called "respectable newspapers" buried it? Yup. The "mainstream" leftist newspapers have moved below the National Enquirer on the believability / respectability scale.

299 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:07:04pm

re: #280 Dirk Diggler


DAMN YOU.... Coke went everywhere. LOL

300 formercorpsman  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:07:18pm

Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...Same as it ever was...

301 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:07:24pm

re: #280 Dirk Diggler

re: #291 MandyManners

The way-ward penis theory?

There I was, minding my own business, sound asleep. When I woke up, my penis was in this lady I never mey before

302 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:07:32pm

If he cheated while running for the presidency, you got to think he's done it before.

303 hazzyday  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:07:32pm

Probably since he is a democrat it's perfectly ok for him to not have a moral compass. Can we expect the same lack of internal direction from Obama?

304 Dahveed  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:07:44pm

re: #288 MandyManners

Slight tweak.

Excellent edits.

305 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:07:45pm

re: #294 goddessoftheclassroom

That's what she said...

LOL!

306 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:08:08pm

re: #289 loppyd

Manny DelCarmen threw 97.4 mph last night. 3rd fastest MLB. Top Guns

307 Eyes of Blue  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:08:55pm

re: #147 reine.de.tout

"Let the family heal". Whoa.

Are there any comments over there expressing any sort of dismay that this child has a father who will not admit to being her father?

Why would they? They probably don't have fathers either just a lot of "uncles".

308 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:08:57pm

re: #296 runrabbitrun

Why visit the baby in the middle of the night if it was not his child?

As I said in an earlier thread, if the paternity news proves true - and as far as the mother ordering a DNA test: you'd be surprised how quickly 15 grand a month can look like peanuts as time goes on, resentment builds, and you get so used to having money you run up debts - I'm sure Edwards will play 'doing the right thing' as a sympathy meme. No-one will want to do press hits involving a defenseless child, so it can eventually work to his advantage if he 'fesses up to being her dad.

Machiavelli would be proud of you.

309 conservativeChick  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:09:06pm

Ya right not his kid. Then if the kid was one of his aides, then why the hell was he at a hotel room the Hunter and her baby at 3am? What a lying douche.

310 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:09:12pm

re: #306 faraway

Manny DelCarmen threw 97.4 mph last night. 3rd fastest MLB. Top Guns

as a Red Sox fan, and knowing Manny, did it hit the catcher, or the opposing teams bullpen?

311 hazzyday  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:09:12pm

re: #293 Cognito

Now that's dedication.

Or direct deposit.

Maybe it was 3.

312 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:09:14pm

Loppyd,

DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRK!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPYYYYYYYY!111111

313 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:09:34pm

It is not his child. But he hopes it will be raised a democrat.

314 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:09:45pm

re: #265 reine.de.tout

That is terrible. Even if in a marriage romantic love has gone, there ought still be some common humanity which tells one that such egotistical behaviour simply cannot be right.
But yes, I am sure there are many people nowadays who have more regard for tehmselves and their own pleasures than for those around them.
Sad.

315 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:09:47pm

re: #301 sattv4u2

re: #291 MandyManners


There I was, minding my own business, sound asleep. When I woke up, my penis was in this lady I never mey before

The next thing out of such a mind is to blame the wife.

316 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:10:05pm

re: #304 Dahveed

Excellent edits.

Thank you.

317 kansas  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:10:07pm

John Edwards lied? Shockaroo.

318 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:10:23pm

re: #287 jorline

OT

Sorry, but oil is below $114 here.

114 is better than 150, but it's still flipp'n 114!

319 HBob  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:10:56pm

re: #283 faraway

She's a prostitute.

You're probably right. She's a prostitute. If she'd been paid less she'd be a whore.

320 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:11:46pm

re: #315 MandyManners

You can make bet on that one

321 kansas  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:12:04pm

re: #318 DeafDog

114 is better than 150, but it's still flipp'n 114!


You hear that the congessional ban against drilling will expire...except that the Republicans are being boondoggled into passing some legislation that will change the ban. Dipshits just can't leave well enough alone.

322 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:12:10pm

re: #313 HelloDare

It is not his child. But he hopes it will be raised a democrat.

It already likes to be spoon fed.

323 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:12:22pm

re: #320 Dustoff-507

You can make bet on that one

BTDT.

Miserable bastard.

324 kansas  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:12:32pm

re: #319 HBob

You're probably right. She's a prostitute. If she'd been paid less she'd be a whore.


If she'd been paid nothing she'd be his wife.

325 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:12:48pm

re: #280 Dirk Diggler

Don't laugh. It happens.

/

Just what fetish sites are you lurking on?

326 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:12:55pm

re: #5 researchok

Yesiree, just what American women want in a VP or cabinet member- a philandering, lying bastard who left his wife's sickbed to party with some NYC barfly.

No doubt he'll get a standing ovation at the DNC convention in Denver.

Hillary's sick? Oh, you weren't talking about Bill, common mistake.

327 jamgarr  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:12:58pm

I would love to see the pros and cons list Edwards did when he was considering whether to cheat on his cancer-ridden wife while he was auditioning for the most powerful job on the face of the planet!

Pro - strange

Con - Nomination
Election
Reputation
Career
Respect
Library
Speech Circuit
Legacy
Family

/Strange it is!

328 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:13:01pm
There I was, minding my own business, sound asleep. When I woke up, my penis was in this lady I never mey before.

Waking Penis Syndrome is more than just a serious problem, it's a disease. How about a little empathy for those who are struggling with this dreaded affliction?

329 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:13:38pm

re: #323 MandyManners


Yep.....

330 kansas  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:13:39pm

re: #328 Dirk Diggler

Waking Penis Syndrome is more than just a serious problem, it's a disease. How about a little empathy for those who are struggling with this dreaded affliction?


If it stays awake for more than 4 hours, call your doctor.

331 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:13:47pm

re: #295 MandyManners

What will that poor kid think when she grows up?

That mommy & daddy were progressive free-thinking Democrats?

poor kid - she might have to move to San Fran to feel like 'one of the gang'.....

332 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:13:47pm

re: #310 sattv4u2

as a Red Sox fan, and knowing Manny, did it hit the catcher, or the opposing teams bullpen?

lol, Called Strike against Billy Butler

333 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:13:50pm

This is all Ann Coulter's fault. Remember how she inferred that Edwards was gay. John was just proving his manhood.

334 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:13:51pm

re: #270 hazzyday

I consider it normal to lie when asked about an affair when one is married. Nothing to get all lawyered up about. Everyone does it. He made poor choices, spent supporters money poorly, trusted the wrong people, was unfaithful when tested. How in the heck did he ever think he was leadership material? And what is it with this goofy aide trying to say he did it?

Its not the fact that he had an affair and got caught out which is so disgusting - you're right, its pretty common, and people have to deal with this on their own personal basis.
It is the fact that he did this while his wife has terminal cancer, remission or not. That is the one fact which makes his behaviour more despicable than any of the other things which make adultery so bad.

335 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:14:04pm

re: #287 jorline

OT

Sorry, but oil is below $114 here.

Wow, it closed over $120 yesterday IIRC.

336 markx  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:14:09pm

re: #319 HBob

If she'd been paid less she'd be a whore.

What is the amount differentiating the two?

337 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:14:38pm

re: #283 faraway

She's a prostitute.

He's a prostititian.

338 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:15:05pm

re: #328 Dirk Diggler


LOL, would you please stop. Not only is cola it all over my keyboard, but now it's coming out my nose!

339 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:15:17pm

re: #325 CyanSnowHawk

Just what fetish sites are you lurking on?



Geoducks Gone Wild!

340 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:15:19pm

Remember how Edwards' wife demanded an apology from Ann Coulter. Yuck.

341 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:15:26pm
342 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:15:31pm

re: #321 kansas

You hear that the congessional ban against drilling will expire...except that the Republicans are being boondoggled into passing some legislation that will change the ban. Dipshits just can't leave well enough alone.

That's the "gang of 10" stuff, right?

The House is going to hold the line through this election cycle.

If Boehner is as good as I think hope he is, the Reps may parlay this into a 1994 style, contract with America, surprise.

343 Pyrocles  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:15:48pm

As the Koskidz said during the Spitzer scandal, these scandals aren't a big deal for Democrats because it's the Republicans who preach their morality so openly. Thus, when Republicans engage in this behavior, they can be smeared based on "hypocracy" unlike Democrats.

Whatever... A scumbag is a scumbag.

344 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:15:56pm

That's it. This jerk figures hey all the other bigs in the democrap party have lied and got away with it, why not me.I'm still a viable pick for Veep or at least AJ. Al Gore with his Chinese connections, Hil with Rose Law, Bill with his women, Kerry and Vietnam, the Obama, everything.Lying is a requirement for this bunch.

345 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:16:45pm

re: #306 faraway

Manny DelCarmen threw 97.4 mph last night. 3rd fastest MLB. Top Guns

Nice! I thought they were off last night, though.....?

346 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:16:51pm

re: #331 runrabbitrun

That mommy & daddy were progressive free-thinking Democrats?

poor kid - she might have to move to San Fran to feel like 'one of the gang'.....

Maybe she'll become a Republican.

347 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:17:02pm

re: #341 MandyManners

Yeah but the question is which woman?

348 jamgarr  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:17:10pm

re: #343 Pyrocles

As the Koskidz said during the Spitzer scandal, these scandals aren't a big deal for Democrats because it's the Republicans who preach their morality so openly. Thus, when Republicans engage in this behavior, they can be smeared based on "hypocracy" unlike Democrats.

Whatever... A scumbag is a scumbag.


Even Forrest knew: Scumbag is as scumbag does.

349 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:17:11pm

re: #338 Dustoff-507

LOL, would you please stop. Not only is cola it all over my keyboard, but now it's coming out my nose!

sounds like you have a drinking problem

350 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:17:22pm

Edwards lied. He's still lying. He will continue to lie, and worst of all, the media was complicit in this as well by not covering the story - and they'll excuse their actions by claiming it was to protect Elizabeth.

They sat on their hands as the Enquirer ran the story and the basics happen to be true. The paternity question remains an open one, and Edwards' explanations don't pass the smell test on that issue - namely why he went to her hotel room and then hid from reporters and paid out $15,000 per month to a woman with whom he supposedly ended a relationship with before the baby was born.

351 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:17:42pm

re: #312 Dirk Diggler

I've missed you so!

352 Cognito  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:18:02pm

Is anyone else following the news from Georgia?

I will be shocked, I think, if we don't do something to help those people. They have stood by us, at great expense, and now I think it's our turn to stand by them.

353 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:18:29pm

re: #347 acacia

Yeah but the question is which woman?

Slippery!

354 HBob  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:18:35pm

re: #339 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Geoducks Gone Wild!

GROSS!

355 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:18:49pm

re: #327 jamgarr

I would love to see the pros and cons list Edwards did when he was considering whether to cheat on his cancer-ridden wife while he was auditioning for the most powerful job on the face of the planet!

Pro - strange

Con - Nomination
Election
Reputation
Career
Respect
Library
Speech Circuit
Legacy
Family

/Strange it is!

Don't be so naive as to believe this is a one-off event. If Edwards was able to conceal this triste for the last couple of years, you know that he's been bonking his congressional staff and campaign workers for years.

Just like Clinton and Monica. You think that was the only one? No way! It was just the only one with a stained dress.

356 ErnieG  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:18:50pm

Just for grins, imagine if a Republican had been involved:

Republican John Dingleberry (R) repeatedly lied during his Republican Presidential campaign about an extramarital affair with a novice Republican filmmaker, the former Republican Senator admitted to ABC News today.

In an interview for broadcast tonight on Nightline, Republican Dingleberry told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 44-year old Bambi Twit, a Republican, but said that he did not love her.

Dingleberry (R) also denied he was the father of Twit's baby girl, Frances Twit, also believed to be a Republican, although the one-time Republican Presidential candidate said he has not taken a paternity test.

357 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:18:54pm

re: #340 HelloDare

Remember how Edwards' wife demanded an apology from Ann Coulter. Yuck.

ohman you're right! .... and now that you reminded me - Coulter's take on this is going to give us several minutes of airtime plus a column that will really be priceless - can't wait!

=D

358 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:19:11pm

re: #352 Cognito

Is anyone else following the news from Georgia?

I will be shocked, I think, if we don't do something to help those people. They have stood by us, at great expense, and now I think it's our turn to stand by them.

Good luck. Bush is up Putin's ass.

359 MandyManners  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:19:14pm

bbl

360 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:20:00pm

vagabond trader,

That's it. This jerk figures hey all the other bigs in the democrap party have lied and got away with it, why not me.

But the democrap bigwigs didn't get away with it (Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson, and Bill Clinton certainly didn't). If I'm John Edwards I admit to the relationship, defuse the situation before it goes supernova, and salvage some shred of my credibility.

361 Mike in Georgia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:20:31pm

re: #352 Cognito

Yes you can help. Send money to ......

362 jamgarr  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:20:32pm

re: #355 DeafDog

Don't be so naive as to believe this is a one-off event. If Edwards was able to conceal this triste for the last couple of years, you know that he's been bonking his congressional staff and campaign workers for years.

Just like Clinton and Monica. You think that was the only one? No way! It was just the only one with a stained dress.


It was a joke son, a joke. (But obviously not as good as I thought)

363 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:21:07pm

Open war in Russia, the Olympics, + Friday night news dump.

Well-timed, Edwards!

364 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:21:07pm

re: #349 sattv4u2


Naaa, just a spewing problem.

365 formercorpsman  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:21:32pm

re: #352 Cognito

Yes, you are right.

366 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:21:36pm

re: #360 Dirk Diggler

vagabond trader,


But the democrap bigwigs didn't get away with it (Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson, and Bill Clinton certainly didn't). If I'm John Edwards I admit to the relationship, defuse the situation before it goes supernova, and salvage some shred of my credibility.

His biggest problem is vehemently denying it for six months.

The media does not like to be lied to.

367 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:21:55pm

re: #341 MandyManners

Sources told the NATIONAL ENQUIRER exclusively that Edwards had engineered a massive cover up of the affair and love child scandal and that Young was taking the blame for his good friend. At the time Rielle had been relocated from the New York area to Chapel Hill in Edwards' home state of North Carolina, where she was living in an upscale gated community down the street from Young. Strangely, Young even had Rielle to his house for dinner with his wife and kids, the NATIONAL ENQUIRER has learned.

SNIP

After our story last December, reporters from other media outlets asked Edwards about the report during a campaign stop in Columbia, S.C.

Edwards responded: "The story is false. It's completely untrue, ridiculous," adding: "Anyone who knows me knows that I have been in love with the same woman for 30-plus years."

WAIT A MINUTE: the friend who took the fall, Young, IS MARRIED WITH CHILDREN? How much did that cost?

368 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:22:04pm

re: #339 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

www.TaylorShellFish.com

My friend did their website, same company featured on that episode of Dirty Jobs.

369 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:22:07pm

re: #356 ErnieG

Just for grins, imagine if a Republican had been involved:

No mention he's a Democrat on:
ABC, Drudge, CNN

370 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:22:16pm

re: #366 loppyd

His biggest problem is vehemently denying it for six months.

The media does not like to be lied to.

yeah ,, they don't like competition in the lying dept.

371 HBob  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:22:25pm
Edwards responded: "Anyone who knows me knows that I have been in love with the same woman for 30-plus years."

Just not the kind of love that will keep a man's dick from wandering.

372 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:22:32pm

re: #370 sattv4u2

yeah ,, they don't like competition in the lying dept.


'zactly!

373 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:22:56pm

re: #352 Cognito

Is anyone else following the news from Georgia?

I will be shocked, I think, if we don't do something to help those people. They have stood by us, at great expense, and now I think it's our turn to stand by them.

Yet another ethnic rivalry flaring up, this time with Russian interests involved. This is ugly already and likely to get much worse. I hope those crack diplomats over at the State Department know what's going on, cause we sure as hell don't.

/more like crackhead diplomats

374 Dustoff-507  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:23:37pm

re: #367 goddessoftheclassroom

WAIT A MINUTE: the friend who took the fall, Young, IS MARRIED WITH CHILDREN? How much did that cost?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

BINGO!

375 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:23:57pm

re: #352 Cognito

Is anyone else following the news from Georgia?

I will be shocked, I think, if we don't do something to help those people. They have stood by us, at great expense, and now I think it's our turn to stand by them.

I havn't been following closely, but hotair had a positive spin in this story that we were doing are part.....

from hotiar

takeaway line - We’re giving them the knife. Will they use it?

376 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:24:15pm

re: #346 MandyManners

Maybe she'll become a Republican.

::slaps head::

of course!

I always forget that my lost college years as a fem/Dem (=p) and dressing my girls in Oshkosh overalls, and giving them trucks & bricks instead of dolls led to the pink faerie tutu, Disney princess and Barbie world explosion that my grandaughters enjoy today....

377 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:24:46pm

I think this may be one last nail in the coffin of the MSM. Everyone knows they're in the bag for liberals and Dems. Thanks to the internet and free speech, we now get a glimpse as to the true level of their deception. This story puts it about as low as it can go. I don't think they will ever regain trust.

378 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:24:46pm

loppyd,

I've missed you so!

Hows my favorite B-ahhhh-ston girl. What's this I'm hearing about your pictures? Have you started a naughty website or something?

379 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:24:51pm

re: #341 MandyManners

Edwards responded: "The story is false. It's completely untrue, ridiculous,"

Except for where it is completely true.

They lie right to our face, and there is no discernible difference in their countenance than when they tell us everything else.

380 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:25:29pm

re: #360 Dirk Diggler

Maybe not Hart, tho he was on the 9/11 Commission IIRC. Clinton also did 2 more years as POTUS and certainly isn't hurting, Jackson remains a shakedown artist. Let me add Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd. Anyone missed?

381 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:25:58pm

They have to be popping champaign at the Enquirer this evening.

382 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:25:58pm

re: #330 kansas

SCIENCE!

383 hazzyday  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:26:04pm

re: #334 yma o hyd

It probably is hard on the kids and the spouse. Both my parents cheated and then divorced. I thought it never affected me. I was relieved as a teen to be out of the violence and left to my own devices. But when older I realized I didn't judge people well or trust people much. Related? Not still sure. but I made amends with both parents once I hit 30 and try not to look at that past much.

The mistake they both did make was to be bitter and loud about it and denigrate the other person in front of me to get me to take a side.

So I would feel sorry for the kids especially since it is a national media with a historical record that is doing the loud for them.

384 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:26:22pm

re: #376 runrabbitrun

::slaps head::

of course!

I always forget that my lost college years as a fem/Dem (=p) and dressing my girls in Oshkosh overalls, and giving them trucks & bricks instead of dolls led to the pink faerie tutu, Disney princess and Barbie world explosion that my grandaughters enjoy today....

There will be no disparaging the Disney Princesses!
My wife wants to be Princess Giselle. (From Enchanted, she can't stop singing "Happy Little Working Song")

385 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:26:25pm

re: #362 jamgarr

My bad. In my own defense, my funny bone was removed after a tragic accident as a youth. So I sometimes struggle with higher levels of humor. The 3 stooges, I still get.

386 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:26:47pm

re: #379 Silhouette

You hit on what galls me the most. It's an art and unfortunately, too many people have mastered it.

387 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:28:23pm

re: #383 hazzyday

{hazzyday}

I am so sorry.

I have tried my best to stay on the high road. Whatever demons my EH has, I want my boys to be able to look to me to know the right way to behave.

388 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:28:24pm

re: #341 MandyManners

Sources told the NATIONAL ENQUIRER exclusively that Edwards had engineered a massive cover up of the affair and love child scandal and that Young was taking the blame for his good friend. At the time Rielle had been relocated from the New York area to Chapel Hill in Edwards' home state of North Carolina, where she was living in an upscale gated community down the street from Young. Strangely, Young even had Rielle to his house for dinner with his wife and kids, the NATIONAL ENQUIRER has learned.

SNIP

After our story last December, reporters from other media outlets asked Edwards about the report during a campaign stop in Columbia, S.C.

Edwards responded: "The story is false. It's completely untrue, ridiculous," adding: "Anyone who knows me knows that I have been in love with the same woman for 30-plus years...as my wife has recently found out."

There ya go.

389 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:29:15pm

re: #380 vagabond trader

Their Democrats. Lying is what they do. All my life (born in 1969) the Democrats have been the anti-American liar's Party. I don't expect them to change anytime soon.

390 vagabond trader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:30:30pm

re: #389 Iron Fist

Exactly, and they even expect it amongst themselves, so why the big coverup.

391 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:30:39pm

re: #376 runrabbitrun

::slaps head::

of course!

I always forget that my lost college years as a fem/Dem (=p) and dressing my girls in Oshkosh overalls, and giving them trucks & bricks instead of dolls led to the pink faerie tutu, Disney princess and Barbie world explosion that my grandaughters enjoy today....

OT - Gawd, yours as well? Same here!

392 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:30:59pm

Through it all, his hair looks marvelous.

393 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:31:01pm

re: #389 Iron Fist

Ack. That should have been:

re: #379 Silhouette

And "they're". Other than that, my post was accurate :-)

394 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:31:14pm
395 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:31:27pm

Rielle's child: My daddy was an ambulance chaser at the mill.

396 formercorpsman  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:32:10pm

re: #395 faraway

Good.

397 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:32:31pm

Let's review shall we -

FDR - cheated
JFK - cheated
Johnson - cheated
Carter - cheated in his heart
Clinton - cheated
Hart - cheated
Edwards - cheated

And anyone who believes that this baby that Edwards is visiting in the middle of the night with a woman he is supposed to be sleeping with, is not HIS - is probably a Democrat.

398 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:32:34pm

re: #130 MandyManners

I hope the tramp takes him to court for support,then elizabeth sues him for divorce(she won't but what the hey)lets see how he likes the stsem he's been living off when he's the one thats gotta stroke the checks.
ahhh a man can dream....

399 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:33:14pm

re: #378 Dirk Diggler

loppyd,


Hows my favorite B-ahhhh-ston girl. What's this I'm hearing about your pictures? Have you started a naughty website or something?

I'm good!

How's my favorite Houston boy?

I took some funny pics at the Red Sox game last weekend...emailed them to Jammie. But I am working on my own blog....

400 jamgarr  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:33:22pm

re: #395 faraway

Rielle's child: My daddy was an ambulance chaser at the mill.


L Friggin' OL!

401 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:34:30pm
EDWARDS: When people say to me, 'why are you running for President of the United States,' I can say it in one sentence. I'm running for President of the United States because I want everyone in America to have the same chances that I've had.

2 women in every pot.

402 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:34:30pm

Obama is off to Hawaii for some down time.

I question the timing.

403 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:35:00pm

re: #340 HelloDare

Remember how Edwards' wife demanded an apology from Ann Coulter. Yuck.

Ann is going to have a field day with this one...

404 Glackinspeil  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:35:05pm

Before I go searching, maybe a friendly lizard can point me in the right direction .... I am looking for bloggers on the ground near the Georgia/Russia conflict .... can anyone recomend good link? I really don't like trusting reuters et al.

405 Paul  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:35:18pm

Edward is a scumbag, a calculating scumbag. He announces admits his lies, philandering and cover ups on a Friday afternoon when the news is dominated by the opening of the Olympics. He also knows that the MSM will do its best to minimize the news---of course to spare his dying wife's feelings.

Brave John Edwards admitting this now to spare the Democrat Party the convention embarrassment. /MSM spin

406 hazzyday  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:35:26pm

re: #387 goddessoftheclassroom

{hazzyday}

I am so sorry.

I have tried my best to stay on the high road. Whatever demons my EH has, I want my boys to be able to look to me to know the right way to behave.

NP I am way over it now. I know you do the right thing.

I grew up thinking the cheating was ok, I thought most people did it. Now I think it is a bad choice all around and everyone gets hurt. Probably the one poor choice I made was that I stopped talking to my parents and role models. I was a teenager. lol. I think as long as there is honest talking going on then the kids should turn out ok.

407 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:35:40pm

re: #401 faraway

2 women in every pot.

That we know of. With the ease of his lying, I doubt this was his first deviance from the straight and narrow.

408 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:35:46pm

Edwards' quote in one of the video's produced by Hunter:

"I want to see our party lead on the great moral issues — yes, me a Democrat using that word — the great moral issues that face our country," Edwards tells the crowd. "If we want to live in a moral, honest just America and if we want to live in a moral and just world, we can't wait for somebody else to do it. We have to do it."

I guess when he said "we have to do it" he meant something other than being moral. What a cad.

409 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:35:50pm

re: #402 Eric Cartman's Conscience

Obama is off to Hawaii for some down time.

I question the timing.

The dude is probably sick of the "distancing" speeches every week...that bus is so high centered from bodies thrown under it....

410 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:35:56pm

re: #383 hazzyday

Indeed.
It is true that kids always come out worse in such cases, even if it looks like they've adjusted well.
Human relationships are never plain sailing, and there is no patent recipe, especially not where relatives are dispersed all over the place and can't help.
I'm glad you made up with your parents! Good for you!

411 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:35:57pm
412 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:36:00pm

This came from his website, but it could just as easily be his pickup line.

EDWARDS: The strength of America's not just in the Oval Office, the strength of America is in this [hotel] room, right now. It's the American people, the incredible capacity of the American people to do great things. And we need you. Your country needs you.

413 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:36:20pm

re: #384 CyanSnowHawk

There will be no disparaging the Disney Princesses!
My wife wants to be Princess Giselle. (From Enchanted, she can't stop singing "Happy Little Working Song")

ok, as long as I get to be Princess Jasmin - flying carpets don't need to gas up.

Seriously, you should SEE the girl grandbunnies' bedroom. Pink from ceiling to carpet, entirely a Disney princess theme: pink princess four-poster beds, pink princess bureaus, pink princess bedding. And when their mom asked her sister if my five year old grandson wouldn't feel too silly attending his cousin's Disney princess b-day party, he shook his head nuh-uh! He would love to go as Gaston (so he could throw things around and bash the furniture).

Disney rules - once again!

414 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:36:21pm

re: #390 vagabond trader

True. The cover-up is what gets them. Clinton could have said "Yeah, I banged the bitch!" and the Democrats would have yawned. No perjury, no obstruction of justice, no impeachment. I don't buy Hillary's sob story about Bill finally coming clean to her. She knew it all along. Everyone near Clinton knew the truth about him.

I wish the Democrats would let it all hang out. we're here, we're queer, and we're coming for the guns! Of course, they can't win National elections that way, but they'd hold on to their precious Blue States an d the differences between the parties would be out in the open.

415 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:36:26pm

Statement from Silken Pony and his ill wife coming on Fox News.

416 Irene NYC  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:36:32pm

Hoisted by his own petard?

I think that's the phrase.

417 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:36:36pm

re: #402 Eric Cartman's Conscience

Obama is off to Hawaii for some down time.

I question the timing.

Got to get the birth certificate thing under control.

418 snowcrash  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:36:42pm

Cavuto on Fox just announced a statement is comming soon from John AND Elizabeth Edwards.

419 Paul  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:37:05pm

re: #397 DistantThunder

Let's review shall we -

FDR - cheated
JFK - cheated
Johnson - cheated
Carter - cheated in his heart
Clinton - cheated
Hart - cheated
Edwards - cheated

And anyone who believes that this baby that Edwards is visiting in the middle of the night with a woman he is supposed to be sleeping with, is not HIS - is probably a Democrat.

Harry Truman, at least, was always faithful to Bess. The last decent Democrat.

420 avspatti  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:37:25pm

re: #14 goddessoftheclassroom

I second that.

421 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:37:25pm

vagabond trader,

Clinton also did 2 more years as POTUS and certainly isn't hurting, Jackson remains a shakedown artist. Let me add Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy, Chris Dodd.

But none of them avoided their scandals by lying. The truth eventually became known. That's my point. People fuck up. Men and women in committed relationships cheat. The admirable thing to do is to fess up about it and not compound the situation by lying. The public's memory of an extra-marital relationship will fade long before their memory of a scandal will.

422 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:37:45pm

EDWRADS'S 2 AMERICAS

the one he lives in with his family

and

the one he lives in with his family!

423 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:38:02pm

re: #397 DistantThunder

Just to add to the litany, don't forget Spitzer and Jesse Jackson

424 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:38:07pm

re: #415 sngnsgt

Statement from Silken Pony and his ill wife coming on Fox News.

What a f-ing rat. He should come out there by himself and be a f-ing man!

Although one story I read said Elizabeth has known since 2006 and didn't kick him to the curb then.

425 sbrowning  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:38:30pm

I just remembered - this guy was almost elected VP in 2004. Needless to say there would have been a lot of hot action going on the oval office had Silky gotten in.

426 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:38:32pm

re: #411 HelloDare

Caption contest.

If you have an extra $15k in your pocket, I have this chick from the Emperor's Club upstairs. Talk about some hope, man.

427 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:38:44pm

The nastiest thing John has done to Elizabeth is just about to happen.

She gets to stand beside him on national TV and say she doesn't mind.

428 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:39:04pm

re: #406 hazzyday

I am glad you were able to come to terms with such a hurtful experience.

I have a sort of opposite "problem": my parents were so straight-arrow that I expect the same of everyone, and I'm still shocked when they fall short of the standards of behavior (including choice fo language) I'm used to.

429 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:39:24pm

re: #424 loppyd

What a f-ing rat. He should come out there by himself and be a f-ing man!

Although one story I read said Elizabeth has known since 2006 and didn't kick him to the curb then.

it's hard too when John owns the curb, the street, the sidewalk, the driveway and the mansion

430 formercorpsman  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:39:52pm

re: #414 Iron Fist

It is exactly why her job was moved from the White House.

Everyone knew.

Everyone was pissed, because they all put their necks out for him in the lie, and they realized the DNA did not lie.

431 jamgarr  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:39:57pm

re: #427 Silhouette

The nastiest thing John has done to Elizabeth is just about to happen.

She gets to stand beside him on national TV and say she doesn't mind.


He's chewed her up - now he's Spitzering her out!

432 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:40:07pm

re: #429 sattv4u2

it's hard too when John owns the curb, the street, the sidewalk, the driveway and the mansion

Unholy pact?

433 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:40:09pm

By contrast:

Nixon - faithful
Reagan - faithful
Ford - faithful
Bush 1 - faithful
Bush 2 - faithful


Anyone see a pattern here?

434 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:40:22pm

re: #425 sbrowning

I just remembered - this guy was almost elected VP in 2004. Needless to say there would have been a lot of hot action going on the oval office had Silky gotten in.

Would give new meaning to "undisclosed locations"

435 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:40:49pm
436 DaddyG  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:40:49pm

re: #411 HelloDare

Caption contest.

Psst... Andrew and I are done. Your turn is next.

437 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:40:58pm

re: #433 DistantThunder

By contrast:

Nixon - faithful
Reagan - faithful
Ford - faithful
Bush 1 - faithful
Bush 2 - faithful


Anyone see a pattern here?

republican men are ugly?

438 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:41:07pm

re: #424 loppyd

What a f-ing rat. He should come out there by himself and be a f-ing man!

Although one story I read said Elizabeth has known since 2006 and didn't kick him to the curb then.

I agree, leave the wife out of it, she didn't do anything and John Edwards isn't worth standing beside.

439 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:41:45pm

Sorry, that was "slut" being much closer to "heaven" than slimy trial lawyer who cheats on dying wife, etc.

re: #212 MandyManners

Virtue and reputation are priceless.


If you had them they might be priceless.

This 44 year old woman carried on an affair with a married man for months, a man whose wife had cancer, probably had his baby (possibly deliberately), and appears to have been taking $15,000 per month from him to keep this all quiet. This is all already public knowledge.

So is it too much to suppose that this particular woman's virtue and reputation aren't priceless, and that she'd be willing to accept a price for them?

As to whether or not the alleged $15k per month is child support or hush money (or both) is interesting, but it changes little.

440 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:42:01pm

re: #415 sngnsgt

Statement from Silken Pony and his ill wife coming on Fox News.

What color is the Jackie dress!

441 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:42:27pm

re: #319 HBob

You're probably right. She's a prostitute. If she'd been paid less she'd be a whore.

How much does it take to be a courtesan?

442 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:42:34pm

re: #431 jamgarr

He's chewed her up - now he's Spitzering her out!

Not another miserable enabling Democrat wife - but that is who they are.

MS. McGreevey here in NJ just got the shaft getting $200/week child support and no alimony. But she stood by her man.

443 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:42:39pm

re: #440 Oh no...Sand People!

What color is the Jackie dress!

Spotted!

444 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:43:00pm

re: #439 looking closely

$15k per month is child support

Thats a lot of diapers and Enfamil

445 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:43:05pm

re: #433 DistantThunder

By contrast:

Nixon - faithful
Reagan - faithful
Ford - faithful
Bush 1 - faithful
Bush 2 - faithful


Anyone see a pattern here?

Naaaah - pattern, what pattern?

Oh, ya mean they're Reps? Aww - just square people, mun, not swingers, not with it ..
////

447 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:43:22pm

Thnk about this for a minute - had JFK been president in the current media age would the numerous affairs been kept under wraps? Hell no. It would have been impossible to contain. Makes you wonder what would have happened.

448 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:43:23pm

re: #442 DistantThunder

Not another miserable enabling Democrat wife - but that is who they are.

MS. McGreevey here in NJ just got the shaft getting $200/week child support and no alimony. But she stood by her man.

And he stood by his.

449 Chasing Zero  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:43:40pm

"Since becoming pregnant, Hunter has lived under assumed names in a series of expensive homes in North Carolina and, more recently, in Santa Barbara, Calif. Edwards denied paying any money to Hunter to keep her from going public but said it was possible some of his friends or supporters may have made payments without telling him."

So if the affair has been over for some time now and the baby isn't his, why would any of his friends or supporters have to make any payments at all? Are any of these homes owned by any of these friends/supporters? Did the campaign make any payments to any shell company setup to funnel payments to Hunter? What are the amounts that have been paid so far? Has this income been reported to the IRS?

Enquiring minds want to know.

450 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:43:57pm

re: #424 loppyd

The women in these cases are married to Democrats. They should have known what they were getting!

Seriously, you see more than a little lust for power in the wives of recent Democratic candidates. You see it in Clinton badly. A raw, naked need for power that is terrifying. You see it in WAB. It was there in Tipper, too, though not as badly as you see it in the prior two. Maybe that's why Elizabeth Edwards kept her mouth shut about this. It can't have been because he was being so supportive of her in her time of need.

451 jorline  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:44:03pm

If Edwards would have told this story to the LLL during the primaries...he would be the Democratic nominee.

452 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:44:35pm

re: #429 sattv4u2

till her lawyer says otherwise.

453 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:44:58pm

re: #449 Chasing Zero

"Since becoming pregnant, Hunter has lived under assumed names in a series of expensive homes in North Carolina and, more recently, in Santa Barbara, Calif. Edwards denied paying any money to Hunter to keep her from going public but said it was possible some of his friends or supporters may have made payments without telling him."

So if the affair has been over for some time now and the baby isn't his, why would any of his friends or supporters have to make any payments at all? Are any of these homes owned by any of these friends/supporters? Did the campaign make any payments to any shell company setup to funnel payments to Hunter? What are the amounts that have been paid so far? Has this income been reported to the IRS?

Enquiring minds want to know.

And why would he be visiting with her in the middle of the night?

454 DaddyG  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:45:02pm

re: #397 DistantThunder

Let's review shall we -

FDR - cheated
JFK - cheated
Johnson - cheated
Carter - cheated in his heart
Clinton - cheated
Hart - cheated
Edwards - cheated

Seems the village is useful for something besides just raising a child.

455 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:45:09pm

re: #438 sngnsgt

I agree, leave the wife out of it, she didn't do anything and John Edwards isn't worth standing beside.

Does he plan to parade his kids out there, too? What about mom and dad?
He worked in a mill in case you didn't know....

456 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:45:09pm

I hope Silky Ponies wife get everything including the hair.

457 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:45:13pm

re: #445 yma o hyd

Aww - just square people, mun, not swingers, not with it

I don't know anyone anymore who doesn't speak of JFK's infidelity in just that light. It's cool to them, wink wink nudge nudge, he nailed Marilyn, tee hee, what a rascal.

458 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:45:34pm

re: #454 DaddyG

Seems the village is useful for something besides just raising a child.

It's for making them also.

459 hazzyday  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:45:37pm

re: #428 goddessoftheclassroom

You seem like a good communicator with a great intent. That will make all the difference.

460 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:45:45pm

re: #452 Boondock St. Bender

till her lawyer says otherwise.

as a lawyer himself, i have a feeling his $$$$$$ is well sheltered from her (especially if he's been shelling out 15k a month without her knowing)

461 Boondock St. Bender  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:46:02pm

re: #442 DistantThunder

believe me she's no innocent,she knew what she was getting into.a little digging into the past reveals much...

462 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:46:13pm

re: #433 DistantThunder

They're Republicans! They're distilled EVIL! So EVIL that you dare not say their names aloud, lest you summon them from the Hell where they so deservedly are kept!

[/Kos Kid]

463 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:46:35pm

No Democratic Party Convention for John boy...

464 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:46:37pm

re: #450 Iron Fist

The women in these cases are married to Democrats. They should have known what they were getting!

Seriously, you see more than a little lust for power in the wives of recent Democratic candidates. You see it in Clinton badly. A raw, naked need for power that is terrifying. You see it in WAB. It was there in Tipper, too, though not as badly as you see it in the prior two. Maybe that's why Elizabeth Edwards kept her mouth shut about this. It can't have been because he was being so supportive of her in her time of need.


I don't think BO has the guts to chaet on Michelle, though ....

465 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:46:47pm

re: #424 loppyd

What a f-ing rat. He should come out there by himself and be a f-ing man!

Although one story I read said Elizabeth has known since 2006 and didn't kick him to the curb then.

If I were fighting cancer, I wouldn't want my kids to see me fiighting a divorce battle as well.

466 Dirk Diggler  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:46:58pm

Damn it. Work beckons. I'll see you folks sometime next week.

Have a good weekend.

467 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:47:12pm

re: #453 DistantThunder

And why would he be visiting with her in the middle of the night?

his Rolex broke, and he didn't know what time it was

468 HoosierHoops  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:47:28pm

re: #336 markx

What is the amount differentiating the two?


depends on the pimp

469 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:48:07pm

Doesn't the media mind being lied to? Edwards is lying to them directly saying the baby - with no father listed on his birth certificate -is not his. They don't mind the abuse?

470 DaddyG  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:48:24pm

re: #464 yma o hyd

I don't think BO has the guts to chaet on Michelle, though ....


Besides she's got them locked up (to protect them from Jesse).

471 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:48:47pm

re: #450 Iron Fist

How very sad.

"Sure honey, I'll be a laughingstock in front of the ENTIRE WORLD as long as we can keep our status...."

472 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:49:02pm

re: #464 yma o hyd

re: #464 yma o hyd

I don't think BO has the guts to chaet on Michelle, though ....

I'll give Michelle this - she'd probably kick his a--. Hilary would have too except that she wanted to be President.

473 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:49:03pm

re: #457 Silhouette

I
don't know anyone anymore who doesn't speak of JFK's infidelity in just
that light. It's cool to them, wink wink nudge nudge, he nailed
Marilyn, tee hee, what a rascal.

If you're gonna have an affair, Marilyn Monroe ain't a bad place to start.

474 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:49:12pm

re: #457 Silhouette

I don't know anyone anymore who doesn't speak of JFK's infidelity in just that light. It's cool to them, wink wink nudge nudge, he nailed Marilyn, tee hee, what a rascal.

Yep - since Woodstock cheating on your wife or husband or lover is chic, cool, the done thing.

475 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:49:14pm

I'm POSITIVE Rove arranged for and paid this woman to date rape drug and seduce that nice man John Edwards

/KozMode

476 CapeCoddah  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:49:34pm

Both Edwards and Hunter are pigs. One lies, and the other swears by it.

477 Iron Fist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:50:04pm

re: #464 yma o hyd

She'd cut his nuts off. To quote the good Rev'rund Jackson.

478 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:50:17pm

re: #476 CapeCoddah

Both Edwards and Hunter are pigs. One lies, and the other swears by it lies on her back.

fixed

479 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:50:22pm

re: #459 hazzyday

That's very sweet--thank you.

480 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:50:31pm

Say it ain't so Silky! What a lying, bottom feeding dick head. He even has the timing worked out so it would be late friday afternoon, the start of the Olympics, and the start of the Russian/Georgian war. I half wonder whether Silky started it to distract the sheeple even more than they are distracted already. It also speaks volumes, IMHO, that the Enquirer broke the story and stayed on it while the Lamestream media avoided it altogether. This should be the final blow to any credibility the LSM media had (ha ha), and the end of Silky.

481 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:50:32pm

re: #455 loppyd

Does he plan to parade his kids out there, too? What about mom and dad?
He worked in a mill in case you didn't know....

He was milling something himself.

482 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:50:35pm

re: #383 hazzyday

It probably is hard on the kids and the spouse. Both my parents cheated and then divorced. I thought it never affected me. I was relieved as a teen to be out of the violence and left to my own devices. But when older I realized I didn't judge people well or trust people much. Related? Not still sure. but I made amends with both parents once I hit 30 and try not to look at that past much.

The mistake they both did make was to be bitter and loud about it and denigrate the other person in front of me to get me to take a side.

So I would feel sorry for the kids especially since it is a national media with a historical record that is doing the loud for them.

Nice to hear you made amends. Probably came at about the time you were old enough to realize that parents are people too, imperfect. Some parents do better than others at some things; others don't do as well. We can't pick our parents; but we can forgive them their faults and love them.

483 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:50:36pm

This song goes out to John Edwards. Actually, here's a bonus song.

484 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:51:18pm

re: #5 researchok

WORKED FOR SLICK WILLIE

485 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:51:24pm

This is rich.

I took classes here and it's right up the street.

Think they'll still pack the house?

A Conversation With John and Elizabeth Edwards

486 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:51:27pm

re: #470 DaddyG

Besides she's got them locked up (to protect them from Jesse).

TRust me, Obama is exactly the kind of man who cheats, who can point to his wife like Bill did to Hillary, and complain to his prey: "She's such a b---h and doesn't respectme." Easiest line in the world when it's true.

He is a seducible metro sexual. His only qualms would be the backlash from Michelle and losing access to his kids.

487 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:51:34pm

Time to say goodbye to this day of war, infidelity & Canadian trap shooters. See y'all Monday.

488 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:52:24pm

I do so like to have something nice to say about everyone. Now, as far as I know, I can say that Obama at least has not cheated on his marriage vows.

489 yma o hyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:52:27pm

re: #487 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Time to say goodbye to this day of war, infidelity & Canadian trap shooters. See y'all Monday.

Have a nice weekend!

490 SummerSong  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:52:28pm

I watched Edwards and his wife on TV a few days before the story broke (from the N. E.). I do not recall what the event was about. I do remember noticing how strangely I thought he was looking at his wife, Elizabeth. She was speaking and he was looking at her. At the time, I thought, he's not even listening to her. It was like he was just vacantly watching her lips move...

491 jorline  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:53:02pm

re: #482 reine.de.tout

You have mail.

492 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:53:07pm

re: #490 SummerSong

I watched Edwards and his wife on TV a few days before the story broke (from the N. E.). I do not recall what the event was about. I do remember noticing how strangely I thought he was looking at his wife, Elizabeth. She was speaking and he was looking at her. At the time, I thought, he's not even listening to her. It was like he was just vacantly watching her lips move...

He was thinking: I am so dead. I am so dead.

493 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:53:35pm

re: #487 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Have a good weekend!

494 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:54:01pm

re: #464 yma o hyd

I don't think BO has the guts to chaet on Michelle, though ....

Well he sees himself as a modern day JFK and, to boot, he's been trading e-mails with

Scarlett

So he may be tempted.

{shamelessly using the opportunity to post a Scarlett Johanson pic}

495 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:54:16pm

The kid is not his child and he does not love her =- yet why is he sneaking into her hotel room at 3:00 AM?

496 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:54:18pm

re: #475 sattv4u2

I'm POSITIVE Rove arranged for and paid this woman to date rape drug and seduce that nice man John Edwards

/KozMode

Of course, because it is so brilliant, even coming up with the baby thing.

497 HoosierHoops  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:54:24pm

re: #483 lawhawk

This song goes out to John Edwards. Actually, here's a bonus song.


oh lawhawk..you are a rascal

498 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:55:49pm

re: #486 DistantThunder

TRust me, Obama is exactly the kind of man who cheats, who can point to his wife like Bill did to Hillary, and complain to his prey: "She's such a b---h and doesn't respectme." Easiest line in the world when it's true.

He is a seducible metro sexual. His only qualms would be the backlash from Michelle and losing access to his kids.

You know what...I really don't get that vibe from Obama. I really don't. I get a lot of bad, "Oh crap, his policies will destroy the nation I hold dear and everyone in it..." vibes, but I don't get the, 'cheat on his wife' vibe from the guy.

499 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:56:17pm

Lets count the reasons not to cheat on your wife that are genuinely motivating:

1. Lose the kids except on weekends
2. Lose 1/2 your net worth
.........

500 avspatti  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:56:21pm

re: #93 goddessoftheclassroom


WARNING: I'm about to be VERY judgmental, based (especially) on personal bias:

Any woman who knowingly gets involved with a married man is trash. He's worse because he's the one breaking the vow, but she's almost as bad.

I'm with you 100%.

501 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:56:28pm

re: #495 Joel

The kid is not his child and he does not love her =- yet why is he sneaking into her hotel room at 3:00 AM?

early bird special?

502 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:56:57pm

Edwards was the guy who got all the other cowards running for the Democratic nomination to boycott Fox News. I guess PMSNBC and Chwissy Matthews is more his style. You know why it did not work out between him and his goomara? They fought over the hairdryer!

503 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:57:09pm

re: #494 DeafDog

I'd trade er, umm, e-mails w/ Scarlett too!

504 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:57:26pm

re: #497 HoosierHoops

I hear that this was playing on the jukebox the first time that Johnny saw Rielle.

505 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:57:28pm

you can stick a fork into the silk pony HE IS DONE

506 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:57:38pm

re: #498 Oh no...Sand People!

You know what...I really don't get that vibe from Obama. I really don't. I get a lot of bad, "Oh crap, his policies will destroy the nation I hold dear and everyone in it..." vibes, but I don't get the, 'cheat on his wife' vibe from the guy.

It's not just about him, it's about the dynamic in the relationship, with an overbearing negative woman, and the example set for him by his father, and his community.

507 acacia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:57:47pm

re: #498 Oh no...Sand People!

You know what...I really don't get that vibe from Obama. I really don't. I get a lot of bad, "Oh crap, his policies will destroy the nation I hold dear and everyone in it..." vibes, but I don't get the, 'cheat on his wife' vibe from the guy.

I agree. He seems like the geeky type. Also despite his crazy policies, he seems like a family type of guy. Did anyone think Edwards was anything but a womanizer?

508 SummerSong  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:58:14pm

re: #492 DistantThunder


Yes, with hindsight, I truly this he was.

509 Truck Monkey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:58:23pm

re: #428 goddessoftheclassroom

I am glad you were able to come to terms with such a hurtful experience.

I have a sort of opposite "problem": my parents were so straight-arrow that I expect the same of everyone, and I'm still shocked when they fall short of the standards of behavior (including choice fo language) I'm used to.

Thank G-d for parents like these. If I could be considered 1/2 the man my father is I would consider myself a wild success.

510 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:58:23pm

re: #505 yochanan

you can stick a fork into the silk pony HE IS DONE

Yep, I guess you can say he forked up...

511 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:58:29pm

re: #501 sattv4u2

early bird special?

Nah he probably just wanted an "emotionally uninvolved quickie" followed by a discussion on which of the 'two America's' his er Mr. Young's child will live in.

512 quickjustice  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:58:37pm

We could say that Edwards went too far in fathering a bastard child with a woman other than his wife, but Elizabeth herself spoke out in his defense AFTER she knew of the affair. His denial of the love child, and his claim to have broken things off, may indicate the limits of what he told Elizabeth.

Bill Clinton knew that a cigar, judiciously employed, and Monica's mouth, similarly employed, were "irrelevant" to his qualifications to lead the Democrat Party and the nation. The Democrat Party bought into this script.

Why not the same for Edwards?

513 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:58:47pm

re: #418 snowcrash

Cavuto on Fox just announced a statement is comming soon from John AND Elizabeth Edwards.

I hope she uses Jesse's remarks.

514 hoffmonster  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 1:58:59pm

Friday news drop...
buckle up now, ya hear?
things don't add up.
oh well.
it'll be old hat by Monday morning..

hfmstr

515 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:00:00pm

O'rteilly should have a real turkey shoot tonight on his show. Also it will
be interesting how feret faced Alan Colmes parses this. Jesse Jackson will be Silky Pony's marriage counselor. Elizabeth will do the Silda Spitzer routine as well.

516 Son of the Black Dog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:00:20pm

re: #424 loppyd

What a f-ing rat. He should come out there by himself and be a f-ing man!

Although one story I read said Elizabeth has known since 2006 and didn't kick him to the curb then.

She could shoot him on live television and no jury in North Carolina would convict her of anything worst than improper disposal of garbage.

517 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:00:29pm

re: #488 Silhouette

I would suspect Mrs Obama would make him even more ball-less if he chose to do it.

518 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:00:59pm

re: #512 quickjustice

We could say that Edwards went too far in fathering a bastard child with a woman other than his wife, but Elizabeth herself spoke out in his defense AFTER she knew of the affair. His denial of the love child, and his claim to have broken things off, may indicate the limits of what he told Elizabeth.

Bill Clinton knew that a cigar, judiciously employed, and Monica's mouth, similarly employed, were "irrelevant" to his qualifications to lead the Democrat Party and the nation. The Democrat Party bought into this script.

Why not the same for Edwards?

He could still represent the democrats, but they need swing voters for the presidency.

519 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:01:04pm

re: #506 DistantThunder

It's not just about him, it's about the dynamic in the relationship, with an overbearing negative woman, and the example set for him by his father, and his community.

From a psychological perspective, considering his fathers behavior and his early life combined with his negative attitude toward the women in his family (his anger toward his mother in his books, throwing grandma under the bus as a typical white person) Obama is in an extremely HIGH risk category for cheating. Plus his choice of an overbearing controlling woman as a wife increases this risk.

He has much more in common with Bill Clinton than just being a Dem.

520 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:01:07pm

re: #427 Silhouette

The nastiest thing John has done to Elizabeth is just about to happen.

She gets to stand beside him on national TV and say she doesn't mind.

The matching inscriptions inside their wedding rings - "Whatever".

521 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:01:07pm

re: #515 Joel

O'rteilly should have a real turkey shoot tonight on his show. Also it will
be interesting how feret faced Alan Colmes parses this. Jesse Jackson will be Silky Pony's marriage counselor. Elizabeth will do the Silda Spitzer routine as well.

Hi Joel!

Skeletor will say it was to protect Elizabeth.

522 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:01:23pm

re: #449 Chasing Zero


So if the affair has been over for some time now and the baby isn't his, why would any of his friends or supporters have to make any payments at all? Are any of these homes owned by any of these friends/supporters?

Enquiring minds want to know.


Readers of the National Inquirer actually *do* know.

Per its reporting, the $15k per month is supposedly being doled out by one of Edwards deep pocket associates, who is being deliberately obtuse about it.

The idea is so that there will be no paper trail to Edwards, but of course even the most superficial interpretation of this shows something AWFULLY fishy is going on. Who the heck writes a month check for $15 to *ANYONE* no questions asked?

523 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:01:27pm

re: #485 loppyd

This is rich.

I took classes here and it's right up the street.

Think they'll still pack the house?

A Conversation With John and Elizabeth Edwards

Methinks it will be cancelled.

524 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:02:11pm

I'm waiting to see how badly he humiliates his wife.

525 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:02:36pm

re: #512 quickjustice

We could say that Edwards went too far in fathering a bastard child with a woman other than his wife, but Elizabeth herself spoke out in his defense AFTER she knew of the affair. His denial of the love child, and his claim to have broken things off, may indicate the limits of what he told Elizabeth.

Bill Clinton knew that a cigar, judiciously employed, and Monica's mouth, similarly employed, were "irrelevant" to his qualifications to lead the Democrat Party and the nation. The Democrat Party bought into this script.

Why not the same for Edwards?

Clinton, is and was a master of the political game, so his foibles are overlooking in acknowledgment of that mastery. Silky pony is a pretty face and and empty suit, his usefulness was limited to begin with, and now he's simply a washed up hack.

526 SummerSong  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:03:00pm

Liar.

"The Associated Press reported today that Edwards told reporters, "The story is false. It's completely untrue, ridiculous." He said the story was "made-up."

"I've been in love with the same woman for 30-plus years," Edwards added, about his wife Elizabeth, who is suffering from incurable cancer, "and as anybody who's been around us knows, she's an extraordinary human being, warm, loving, beautiful, sexy and as good a person as I have ever known. So the story's just false.".

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com...]

527 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:03:12pm

re: #521 loppyd

Hi loppyd sweetie. Missed you. Feret Faced Colmes will bring up the toe tapper. I wonder how soon Law & Order will do an episode about it but make it a conservative evangelcial Republican.

528 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:03:28pm

re: #515 Joel

O'rteilly should have a real turkey shoot tonight on his show. Also it will
be interesting how feret faced Alan Colmes parses this. Jesse Jackson will be Silky Pony's marriage counselor. Elizabeth will do the Silda Spitzer routine as well.

He'll do what he always does. point out any conservatives that have cheated and say it has nothing to do with liberals/ democrats/ the left

529 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:04:12pm

re: #512 quickjustice

We could say that Edwards went too far in fathering a bastard child with a woman other than his wife, but Elizabeth herself spoke out in his defense AFTER she knew of the affair. His denial of the love child, and his claim to have broken things off, may indicate the limits of what he told Elizabeth.

Bill Clinton knew that a cigar, judiciously employed, and Monica's mouth, similarly employed, were "irrelevant" to his qualifications to lead the Democrat Party and the nation. The Democrat Party bought into this script.

Why not the same for Edwards?

THE OLD ARAMAIC CIGAR TRICK

530 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:04:19pm

re: #507 acacia

When someone obsesses over their appearance as much as Edwards did, it's safe to assume something is going on. Happened to me and other people I know, the crazy thing was that I and others thought they were doing it for us.

531 rawmuse  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:04:33pm

re: #505 yochanan

you can stick a fork into the silk pony HE IS DONE

Nay, he is a Democrat. This just gives him street cred.

532 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:05:01pm
Edwards wife knew in 2006...

Faux News

533 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:05:20pm

re: #530 GeeWiz

When someone obsesses over their appearance as much as Edwards did, it's safe to assume something is going on. Happened to me and other people I know, the crazy thing was that I and others thought they were doing it for us.

{GeeWiz}

My EH did the same thing. I kept reassuring him he didn't need to color his hair or get contacts because I loved him as he was. Silly me.

534 SummerSong  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:05:23pm

Finally going to see the last of those, "Kerry/Edwards" stickers getting peeled off the cars. Heh.

535 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:05:28pm

I am watching Fox News right now - that Heather Nauert is a real doll.

Hillary Clinton must be laughing with glee.

Rove you magnificent bastard!

536 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:06:02pm

re: #524 Dianna

I'm waiting to see how badly he humiliates his wife.

By just appearing with him on tv is to much as far as I'm concerned.

537 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:06:05pm

Reporter: Why do you think Senator Edwards that so many more Democrat politicians cheat compared to Republicans?

Edwards: It is consistent with our motto: "If we can, we should."

narcissistic meglomaniacs

538 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:06:23pm

Although I have seen no evidence that Obama has cheated and therefore will continue to say that is at least one thing in his favor, I don't think it is because he isn't the type.

He is defineately the type to think he is above the rules, that the worship of those around him is deserved, and that he deserves special treats.

539 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:06:45pm

re: #534 SummerSong

LOL! They can peel off the Hillary stickers too...

540 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:06:46pm

re: #506 DistantThunder

It's not just about him, it's about the dynamic in the relationship, with an overbearing negative woman, and the example set for him by his father, and his community.

I completely agree that liberals use 'externals' as reasons for doing things and avoid personal responsibility and most of the things you named could be reasons the MSM would circle the wagons if something came out. But, (shallow man disclaimer) if Michelle is able to channel the negativity to the bedroom...he would never cheat. It's when 'it' is withheld intentionally for long exceedingly long periods of time and 'it' is weaponized that 'good / average / typical' males stray. Edwards is however, not even a 'good / average / typical' male by even those standards...IMO.

541 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:07:04pm

Watch for the media to begin attacking Johnny over him lying to them. That will be the cover under which the media will operate - to ignore their own failure to report on the story from the outset.

They will claim their reluctance initially was to protect Elizabeth. Now, they will act to protect their own crumbling reputations.

542 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:07:15pm

re: #505 yochanan

you can stick a fork into the silk pony HE IS DONE


He's been done for some time already. Not adding anything to the ticket, he was never a plausible VP candidate even without this additional scandal (which you better believe that both Obama and Hilary's people knew about months ago as well).

Had Edwards advanced further, the Nat Inq would have pushed the story harder, and ultimately it would have gotten mainstream coverage sooner.

One wonders why exactly Mr. Pony decided to go public with this NOW. . .the only explanation I can imagine is that he knows even worse dirt is yet to come, and he is trying to pre-empt it. Maybe the Dems forced him to come clean before the convention so he wouldn't be a distraction there.

543 DeafDog  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:07:24pm

re: #517 yochanan

I would suspect Mrs Obama would make him even more ball-less if he chose to do it.

Assuming, of course, that Jesse J. has not already done the job

544 kansas  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:07:34pm

Can't we just move on?

545 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:08:35pm

re: #528 sattv4u2

You are probably right, he also will bring the conversation back to Bush.

546 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:08:46pm

re: #535 Joel

I am watching Fox News right now - that Heather Nauert is a real doll.

Disagree.

Just another blow-up news doll hired for something other than journalistic prowess.

The MSM is shameless.

547 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:09:15pm

Kirsten Powers; "It's really a shock that Edwards admitted to this."

Compares Edwards to Guiliani

548 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:09:17pm

re: #533 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't know how it was with you but I was, as the expression goes, the last to know. Very humilating. Hard to show up around town wondering if the people I ran into knew all along.

549 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:09:26pm

re: #151 HBob

That's because if you have a "D" after your name implies that you never made any promise that you'd hold yourself to any standards - so why not fool around?

What I find disgusting and hypocritical is the way Dems feel the need to preach to us how to live our lives. Edwards, and his '2 Americas' did, Spitzer, as AG, did, and we all know the Obama does.

The Democrat Party: Telling Americans to do as they say and not as they do forever.

550 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:09:46pm

re: #541 lawhawk

David Shuster of PMSNBCis already doing that.

Kirsten Powers of Fox although a liberal (but not a radical leftie) is also gorgeous. The best looking gals work at Fox!

551 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:09:53pm
Edwards told ABC News correspondent Bob Woodruff he did have an affair with 44-year old Rielle Hunter, but said that he did not love her.

So not only did he fuck around behind his wife's back, he did so with someone who supposedly meant absolutely nothing to him.

What an ass.

552 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:09:56pm

Stick a pin in that sanctimonious air head

553 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:10:27pm
554 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:10:37pm

re: #545 Joel

You are probably right, he also will bring the conversation back to Bush.

There ya go. If Bush hadn't stolen the election, Edwards would have been VP. If Edwards was VP, he wouldn't have been wherever it was he met this woman. If he never met this woman, no affiar/ child.

BUSH'S FAULT !

555 reine.de.tout  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:11:04pm

re: #491 jorline

You have mail.

Got it - now so do you.

556 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:11:17pm

DUmmies whining about McCain having an affair on his first wife.

557 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:11:35pm

re: #551 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

So not only did he fuck around behind his wife's back, he did so with someone who supposedly meant absolutely nothing to him.

What an ass.

I thought that "love" comment just made everything 10 times worse.

558 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:11:42pm

re: #536 GeeWiz

Yeah.

I'm watching right now, waiting.

It's too much to hope Elizabeth pulls a gun, or stands up and says, "I'm getting a divorce."

559 alegrias  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:11:51pm

re: #546 astronmr20

Disagree.

Just another blow-up news doll hired for something other than journalistic prowess.

The MSM is shameless.

* * *
Well in their defense, tv IS a visual medium. But Liz Trotta the mature journalist on Fox Sundays for 5 minutes, deserves much more airtime as she is knowledgeable & experienced...someone give her a show!

Whereas, PBS Anchors seem past their prime, visually speaking.

560 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:11:53pm

re: #524 Dianna

I'm waiting to see how badly he humiliates his wife.

Please tell me she won't stand there beside her sos 'husband' (which is worse? frozen-faced or brave-and-proud chin up?).... another Dem dupe-woman.... another female chewed up and spat out by the feminazis' party of choice.

When is this next act slated to go onstage - anybody know?

561 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:11:55pm

re: #548 GeeWiz

I don't know how it was with you but I was, as the expression goes, the last to know. Very humilating. Hard to show up around town wondering if the people I ran into knew all along.

Even my kids suspected before I did.

However, I've had a bit of my own back: a good friend of mine, who happens to be (objectively speaking} EXTREMELY good looking, comes across my EH all the time. My friend told me that he always make sure he has eye contact with EH and then he starts to laugh. Loudly.

562 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:12:00pm

re: #556 sngnsgt

DUmmies whining about McCain having an affair on his first wife.

Waaaaahh, you do it TOO!

563 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:12:01pm

Kirsten Powers just mentioned (correctly) how the NY Times put the rumors about McCain having an affair with a lobbyist on the front page.

Georgian troops fighting Russians - go Georgia! Who would Stalin root for?

564 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:12:15pm

re: #550 Joel

David Shuster of PMSNBCis already doing that.

Kirsten Powers of Fox although a liberal (but not a radical leftie) is also gorgeous. The best looking gals work at Fox!

Blow-up dolls, all of them. It lowers Fox's credibility. Remember, an even more qualified yet less attractive candidate was passed over for those positions.

Sorry, I was a traffic reporter on TV for a while and got tired of seeing this every day.

565 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:12:58pm

re: #544 kansas

Can't we just move on?

No.

566 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:12:59pm

re: #557 DistantThunder

I thought that "love" comment just made everything 10 times worse.

re: #557 DistantThunder

I thought that "love" comment just made everything 10 times worse.

567 CLLRusso  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:13:26pm

The Dem's see nothing wrong with this behavior. After all, it's "only" sex. How a man treats his wife and family is of no consequence, it is what the Europeans, other liberals and Hollywood think of him that is important, and certainly no moral constraints! And of course, what they secretly think is, "wow! What a daring, sexy guy!" Just like they adored Bill. Only Bill is somewhat more charming than John Edwards.

Never mind I think he is a pig. I'm only a conservative,white suburban woman that would cut his balls off, and ask forgiveness later.

I'd really like to vomit.

568 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:13:26pm

re: #560 runrabbitrun

Please tell me she won't stand there beside her sos 'husband' (which is worse? frozen-faced or brave-and-proud chin up?).... another Dem dupe-woman.... another female chewed up and spat out by the feminazis' party of choice.

When is this next act slated to go onstage - anybody know?

Just another reason it's a dying medium altogether.

569 Barry the Baptist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:13:32pm

Well, well, well...this little fiasco should actually help the Edwards star a little vis a ve the 'do what you want to when you want to and it feels good' crowd aka the Democrats.

He'll be spun out to be a sympathetic figure and the alphabet channels will fawn all over him as being a 'vicitm.'

570 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:13:52pm

re: #554 sattv4u2

You are probably spot on. The 2000 Election - the original sin!

571 SummerSong  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:13:53pm

Statement from Edwards on Fox -

"In 2006 I made a serious error in judgement...

572 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:13:54pm

I'm tempted to post my #519 over and over again.

I don't know why people want to say Obama is above this kind of thing. His background and need for power say that he absolutely would do it, especially if he didn't think he'd get caught.

He is an arrogant asshole and his personal history says it will happen. Wait for President Obama (I hope not) and within 6 months there will be a reliable accusation of adultery. He is Bill Clinton without the experience or speaking ability...or the empathy.

573 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:13:59pm

EDWARDS HAS CORE BELIEFS yeah right.

574 kansas  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:14:00pm

re: #565 Dianna

No.


Ok.

575 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:14:31pm

"Just being 99 percent honest is not good enough" - Edwards

576 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:14:34pm

re: #558 Dianna

Yeah.

I'm watching right now, waiting.

It's too much to hope Elizabeth pulls a gun, or stands up and says, "I'm getting a divorce."

I'd like to see a press conference where she stands behind him as he speaks, announcing thanks for the support, trying times, etc and etc and as he turns to walk away, she steps up, "Excuse me, I'd like to say a few things, you pathetic shit."

577 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:14:34pm

re: #572 Mars Needs Neocons

Not worth speculating on until it happens and is proven.

578 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:14:39pm

re: #564 astronmr20

Blow-up dolls, all of them. It lowers Fox's credibility. Remember, an even more qualified yet less attractive candidate was passed over for those positions.

Sorry, I was a traffic reporter on TV for a while and got tired of seeing this every day.

Actually, except for not finishing law school, she has a pretty impressive resume (even for a liberal)

579 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:14:56pm

re: #498 Oh no...Sand People!

You know what...I really don't get that vibe from Obama. I really don't. I get a lot of bad, "Oh crap, his policies will destroy the nation I hold dear and everyone in it..." vibes, but I don't get the, 'cheat on his wife' vibe from the guy.


But does that really make it less likely? (In fact, isn't the guy who doesn't give off that vibe more likely to get away with it?).

Personally, I don't really care if Obama (or any other candidate) cheats/cheated on his wife. So long as it doesn't involve abuse of his elected position (Rezko. . .cough) and it isn't ongoing and scandal-worthy, IMO that's between the two of them.

I've got plenty of good reasons not to vote for him apart from his marital fidelity or lack thereof.

580 alegrias  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:15:19pm

re: #556 sngnsgt

DUmmies whining about McCain having an affair on his first wife.

* * *
Difference is McCain admitted it, like a real man.

581 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:15:26pm

He is blaming the Enquirer for him having to lie!

582 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:15:28pm

Oh, come on, folks, you didn't reasonably expect a guy with such great hair to stick to only one woman, did you?

583 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:15:38pm

Over at The Corner:

So Edwards drops the news on a Friday afternoon in August, the day war breaks out in Russia and the day the Olympics begin. Give his PR people a raise!

UPDATE: Over at Reason, Matt Welch unearths this gem from Edwards about about Bill Clinton's impeachment: "I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen."

584 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:15:45pm

Total lawyer speak statement from Edwards. I wonder if he was composing it in his mind while he was involved with her.

'Ego-centric"

585 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:16:04pm

Not only a liar, he's a stupid liar.

If he's not the father, what was he doing in Hunter's hotel room after midnight, with the kid?

Nope. He's lying.

586 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:16:06pm

re: #579 looking closely

But does that really make it less likely? (In fact, isn't the guy who doesn't give off that vibe more likely to get away with it?).

Personally, I don't really care if Obama (or any other candidate) cheats/cheated on his wife. So long as it doesn't involve abuse of his elected position (Rezko. . .cough) and it isn't ongoing and scandal-worthy, IMO that's between the two of them.

I've got plenty of good reasons not to vote for him apart from his marital fidelity or lack thereof.

Moral of the story:
I just pray he isn't elected for I don't want to find out.

587 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:16:13pm

he is right on one thing he is a egotistical narcissist

588 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:16:16pm

Let's go to Bill and HIllary for comments:

589 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:16:37pm

re: #527 Joel

Hi loppyd sweetie. Missed you. Feret Faced Colmes will bring up the toe tapper. I wonder how soon Law & Order will do an episode about it but make it a conservative evangelcial Republican.

Missed you too!

Hope all is well....

L&O's writers are furiously working on that script!

590 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:16:52pm

re: #551 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

So not only did he fuck around behind his wife's back, he did so with someone who supposedly meant absolutely nothing to him.

What an ass.

He probably used the "I never loved her" line with his wife, and since it seemed to work with her, he figured he'd throw it out there now.

591 paradox42  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:17:02pm

This really pisses me off. My mom had ovarian cancer and though she's okay now, it was horrible. The chemo, the surgery, and the fear was pure hell. What kind of diseased piece of excrement could betray someone they claim to love when they're enduring the hell of cancer?!

John Edwards apparently.

592 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:17:19pm

re: #560 runrabbitrun

Not live, they just read the statement.

Which was a lie.

Poor Elizabeth Edwards.

593 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:17:21pm

re: #577 astronmr20

Not worth speculating on until it happens and is proven.

I just think the people who say he's not the type are as bad as those who put him up as the messiah. There is nothing that says he's not the type. Psychologically he very much is.

594 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:17:38pm

He says he was 99% honest.

He learned well from Bubba.

595 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:17:53pm

re: #575 DistantThunder

"Just being 99 percent honest is not good enough" - Edwards



Does his wife say 'nuts' or 'testicles' ?

596 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:18:18pm

re: #594 loppyd

He says he was 99% honest.

He learned well from Bubba.

at one time, the woman was 99% not pregnant!

597 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:18:26pm
There are two Americas -- the real one, and the one the press tries to fob off on us.

-Glenn Reynolds

598 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:18:29pm

re: #563 Joel

Russia. He turned into a complete Great Russia chauvinist.

599 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:18:41pm

re: #591 paradox42

This really pisses me off. My mom had ovarian cancer and though she's okay now, it was horrible. The chemo, the surgery, and the fear was pure hell. What kind of diseased piece of excrement could betray someone they claim to love when they're enduring the hell of cancer?!

John Edwards apparently.

For all we know, he's been cheating on her for twenty years.

Put differently, do you think Bill Clinton would STOP cheating on Hilary if she got cancer?

600 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:19:01pm

re: #567 CLLRusso

The Dem's see nothing wrong with this behavior. After all, it's "only" sex.

Agreed, and beyond that, I think they think WE also see nothing wrong with it, but that we are only pretending outrage to make political hay.

601 Barry the Baptist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:19:31pm

re: #575 DistantThunder


For him, I guess not.

He's a real piece of shit.

602 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:19:35pm

re: #580 alegrias

* * *
Difference is McCain admitted it, like a real man.

Moonbats don't care, anything they can say to try and make this Edwards thing go away quietly and say McCain did it too.

603 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:19:50pm

re: #575 DistantThunder

"Just being 99 percent honest is not good enough" - Edwards

You're kidding me... he really said that?!

I think we've found a new meme, ladies and gentlemen.

604 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:19:57pm

re: #541 lawhawk

Watch for the media to begin attacking Johnny over him lying to them. That will be the cover under which the media will operate - to ignore their own failure to report on the story from the outset.

Good call.

I'm always amazed at how many people here in NJ still are operating under the belief that Jim McGreevey's 'proud gay American' speech was about his coming out, instead of a entirely being a cover for his escaping from public indictment.

605 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:19:58pm
606 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:20:08pm

re: #573 yochanan

EDWARDS HAS CORE BELIEFS yeah right.

What feels good for Silky Pony.

Core beliefs.

607 Bob in Breckenridge  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:20:45pm

re: #552 DistantThunder

Stick a pin in that sanctimonious air head

Him or her?

608 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:20:52pm

re: #600 Silhouette

Agreed, and beyond that, I think they think WE also see nothing wrong with it, but that we are only pretending outrage to make political hay.

? I don't know about you, but I find this kind of thing repulsive. It shows a complete lack of decency. And I believe the same about Clinton, Guiliani, and all that do this crap. I hadn't read about McCain, but that pisses me off too if he did it.

609 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:20:59pm

re: #603 Occasional Reader

You're kidding me... he really said that?!

I think we've found a new meme, ladies and gentlemen.

How many times has he used that line in court?

610 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:21:16pm

re: #582 Occasional Reader

Oh, come on, folks, you didn't reasonably expect a guy with such great hair to stick to only one woman, did you?

Yes. Yes, I do.

611 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:21:29pm
612 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:21:33pm

re: #595 debutaunt


Does his wife say 'nuts' or 'testicles' ?

Silky pony oysters I believe is what she calls 'em now.

613 SummerSong  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:21:38pm

I'm no math wiz but, uh, first you lie your ass off then when you finally tell the truth, you say you've been 99% truthful? Huh?

614 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:21:42pm

re: #603 Occasional Reader

You're kidding me... he really said that?!

I think we've found a new meme, ladies and gentlemen.

He is lawyer.


Imagine if the jerk had actually won as VP? After parading his cancer stricken wife around on his behalf. The left are so disgusting.

615 DistantThunder  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:21:57pm

re: #591 paradox42

This really pisses me off. My mom had ovarian cancer and though she's okay now, it was horrible. The chemo, the surgery, and the fear was pure hell. What kind of diseased piece of excrement could betray someone they claim to love when they're enduring the hell of cancer?!

John Edwards apparently.

REmember this was the ME generation - sex, drugs and rock and roll. IF it feels good, do it.

616 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:22:00pm

"I never loved her. I never needed her. She was willing and that's all there is to say."

-"apology" from "Second Chance" - 38 Special

617 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:22:29pm

re: #546 astronmr20

She can read the news as well as anyone.

618 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:22:39pm

Actually let me clarify. I hate people that think they can manage others lives can't manage their own.

619 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:22:43pm

re: #593 Mars Needs Neocons

I just think the people who say he's not the type are as bad as those who put him up as the messiah. There is nothing that says he's not the type. Psychologically he very much is.

If Obama has cheated or not is pure speculation. Putting him up as the 'Messiah' due to his arrogance of his political stance and a following of moonbat disciples is a completely different animal all together. One is full on provable that he feels that way, but the other is complete speculation. Don't see how you can group the one with the other.

620 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:22:46pm

re: #593 Mars Needs Neocons

I just think the people who say he's not the type are as bad as those who put him up as the messiah. There is nothing that says he's not the type. Psychologically he very much is.


He's an elected official. . .ipso facto he's likely to cheat.

The fact that he's a narcissist and is surrounded by throngs of ass-kissing worshippers (including, reputedly, Hollywood starlets), can't help matters any. It takes both opportunity and desire, you know.

621 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:23:24pm

re: #612 jcm

Silky pony oysters I believe is what she calls 'em now.

Ahhhh - she's one classy broad.

622 Occasional Reader  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:23:32pm

re: #614 FrogMarch

He is lawyer.

So am I. That's not the issue.

623 Barry the Baptist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:23:47pm

re: #606 jcm

EDWARDS HAS CORE BELIEFS yeah right.


Core belief 1: does it make me money?

Core belief 2: how can I make more money from it?

Core belief 3: will anyone find out?

Core belief 4: how can I get out of this without looking bad?

Core belief 5: any questions about core beliefs should be directed to BIill Clinton. He'll know what's the right thing to do.

624 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:23:59pm

re: #616 Silhouette

"I never loved her. I never needed her. She was willing and that's all there is to say."

-"apology" from "Second Chance" - 38 Special

He said that? What the hell is wrong with these politicians. So now not only does his wife feel like shit, he just took a big steaming dump on Reille Hunter. What an asshole.

625 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:24:03pm

re: #600 Silhouette

Agreed, and beyond that, I think they think WE also see nothing wrong with it, but that we are only pretending outrage to make political hay.

Well, they're wrong.

626 CapeCoddah  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:24:10pm

re: #523 astronmr20
It probably will not cancel, morbid curiosity will make it a sellout.

627 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:24:41pm

re: #619 Oh no...Sand People!

If Obama has cheated or not is pure speculation. Putting him up as the 'Messiah' due to his arrogance of his political stance and a following of moonbat disciples is a completely different animal all together. One is full on provable that he feels that way, but the other is complete speculation. Don't see how you can group the one with the other.

Not us putting him up as the messiah, the moonbats. Ours is ridicule of his attitude and followers, that is acceptable.

The followers blind worship of this man is what I meant. And if you note I did not say he has cheated, I was only addressing the people who said "he's not the type".

628 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:24:49pm

re: #623 Barry the Baptist

EDWARDS HAS CORE BELIEFS yeah right.


Core belief 1: does it make me money?

Core belief 2: how can I make more money from it?

Core belief 3: will anyone find out?

Core belief 4: how can I get out of this without looking bad?

Core belief 5: any questions about core beliefs should be directed to BIill Clinton. He'll know what's the right thing to do.

Core belief 6: Will it muss the hair?

629 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:25:25pm

re: #608 Mars Needs Neocons

? I don't know about you, but I find this kind of thing repulsive. It shows a complete lack of decency. And I believe the same about Clinton, Guiliani, and all that do this crap. I hadn't read about McCain, but that pisses me off too if he did it.

From what I read, McCain was married for about 2 years before going to Viet Nam. He came home over 6 years later after being a POW. His wife had been hurt badly in a car accident during that time. They went on, I believe, six more years but had grown far apart. He fell in love with the woman whom he married after his divorce.

This not does excuse McCain lapse, but it did happen before he went into politics. He accepted responsibility and blame for his actions as well, and remains on good terms with his ex-wife.

630 Mostly Annoyed  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:25:26pm

Maybe someone should lookinto the laws on the books a in the state where this occured. In many states this is actually illegal, just not enforced. But I would expect nothing less from out most ethical elected officals. I would trust most prison inmates more than ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL!

631 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:25:27pm

re: #622 Occasional Reader

So am I. That's not the issue.

Well, he's using his lawyer skills (and we all know that not all lawyers are bad) to play and spin. Some lawyers do that.

632 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:25:44pm

By the way, lacking evidence to the contrary, its wrong to suggest Obama has been unfaithful to his wife.

I don't know that to be true, and "type" or "no type" I have no reason to believe it either.

It was wrong for the NY Times to publish that sort of smear against McCain, and its wrong to suggest it here against Obama.

As mentioned, I have plenty of good reasons not to vote for him apart from his in/fidelity.

633 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:26:07pm

re: #589 loppyd

Missed you too!

Hope all is well....

L&O's writers are furiously working on that script!

Yeah their only decision will be how to work it into all three Law & Order shows.

Manny goes back to Cleveland in 2009.

634 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:26:20pm

re: #608 Mars Needs Neocons

? I don't know about you, but I find this kind of thing repulsive. It shows a complete lack of decency. And I believe the same about Clinton, Guiliani, and all that do this crap. I hadn't read about McCain, but that pisses me off too if he did it.

Oh..McCain did...and she was / is disabled.

635 Hard Right  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:26:40pm

re: #28 Nevergiveup

Democrats have such interesting justifications!

Seen the newest leftist fabrication? Some idiot on Huffpo said Toby Keith's "Beer for my Horses" is pro-black lynching!
Amazing. They can't see how Iran having nukes is bad, but they can see and hear racism where it isn't.

636 spankaccount  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:26:43pm

I hope everyone of heading over to digg and giving this a bump.

637 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:26:48pm

Jowly Bob Beckel is going to be on Fox soon. Spin, spin, spin.

638 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:26:53pm

re: #620 looking closely

It takes both opportunity and desire, you know.

More than that. Many people have plenty of opportunity to cheat, and many even have the desire to cheat, if not often, then on occasion, but they still do not.

639 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:27:46pm

re: #624 FrogMarch

That is from a song, but Edwards did say he didn't love the other woman, so it reminded me of the song.

640 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:28:11pm
641 Pullus Iulius  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:28:14pm

It's probably been pointed out upthread, but the contrast with Grover Cleveland couldn't be more stark. Cleveland claimed the out-of-wedlock child, while he was running for president, when he was probably not the father, but to protect the reputations of others. Edwards denies fatherhood, after he's out of the running, when he probably is the father, thus portraying the mother as a pass-around. We have indeed evolved as a nation.

642 debutaunt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:28:17pm

re: #637 Joel

Jowly Bob Beckel is going to be on Fox soon. Spin, spin, spin.

I love the way he can continue chewing and talking down to us at the same time.

643 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:28:30pm

re: #637 Joel

I've already turned it off, having heard the lying statement from Edwards.

What a disgusting man.

644 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:28:32pm

re: #604 runrabbitrun

Oh, I know.

645 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:28:40pm

Bob Beckel to be on Fox News in a few, I bet the first thing he says is:

"Republican so and so did it too."
646 Oh no...Sand People!  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:28:45pm

re: #627 Mars Needs Neocons

Not us putting him up as the messiah, the moonbats. Ours is ridicule of his attitude and followers, that is acceptable.

The followers blind worship of this man is what I meant. And if you note I did not say he has cheated, I was only addressing the people who said "he's not the type".

I understand, I just fit the "he's not the type" category.

647 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:29:00pm

re: #629 goddessoftheclassroom

From what I read, McCain was married for about 2 years before going to Viet Nam. He came home over 6 years later after being a POW. His wife had been hurt badly in a car accident during that time. They went on, I believe, six more years but had grown far apart. He fell in love with the woman whom he married after his divorce.

This not does excuse McCain lapse, but it did happen before he went into politics. He accepted responsibility and blame for his actions as well, and remains on good terms with his ex-wife.

A large part of my opinion is based on people accepting responsibility for their actions, and not just spinning it politically. I can understand what McCain said, but still don't think it's right.

648 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:29:10pm

re: #615 DistantThunder

REmember this was the ME generation - sex, drugs and rock and roll. IF it feels good, do it.

My mother died of ovarian cancer and my sister had it but beat it. A horrible disease.

649 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:29:26pm

re: #561 goddessoftheclassroom

However, I've had a bit of my own back: a good friend of mine, who happens to be (objectively speaking} EXTREMELY good looking, comes across my EH all the time. My friend told me that he always make sure he has eye contact with EH and then he starts to laugh. Loudly.

LOL! Well I'm a guy and I got the last laugh. I had someone my kids didn't know ask them if there was a divorce, who they wanted to live with. All three wanted to be with me. I then saw a lawyer and sought counsel on how to proceed. He suggested I tell her that if she didn't agree to my condiitions, I would drag all the dirty laundry and players (more than one) out in court for everyone to see. CT is a no fault divorce state with a 90-day waiting period. Since I was eligible for alimony since CT allows for alimony in adultery cases, used it as a bargaining chip. My terms, I get the house, custody of the children and assume all debt while giving up claims for alimony. She got her car with the payment book and her personal items. We did a pro-se divorce, she paid, and she gave me a quit claim deed for the house, she paid. She has since re-married and I stayed single.

650 FrogMarch  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:29:45pm

re: #639 Silhouette

That is from a song, but Edwards did say he didn't love the other woman, so it reminded me of the song.

"apology" from "Second Chance" - 38 Special

*slaps forehead* I almost fell off my chair. Of course he'll probably end up saying something worse.

651 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:29:57pm

re: #642 debutaunt

I love the way he can continue chewing and talking down to us at the same time.

He is as annoying and grating (and as jowly) as Mark Shields of PBS.

652 mike332  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:30:01pm

re: #563 Joel

And now this from the NYT:

In an interview last year with EXTRA that CNN just broadcast, Ms. Hunter said she spent about six months following Mr. Edwards around, including traveling with him to Africa. “The whole experience was life altering to me,” she said. “One of the great things about John Edwards is that he’s so open and willing to try things in new ways.”
653 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:30:20pm

re: #637 Joel

Jowly Bob Beckel is going to be on Fox soon. Spin, spin, spin.

Beckel

"John Edwards cheating isn't the story here, guys. What is the story is a man who has stepped up and admitted his mistake and making amends with his family. If Bush had only done that right after he messed up in Iraq ,,,,,,,,,"

654 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:30:41pm

re: #652 mike332

I love that last line!

655 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:30:49pm

re: #632 looking closely

By the way, lacking evidence to the contrary, its wrong to suggest Obama has been unfaithful to his wife.

I don't know that to be true, and "type" or "no type" I have no reason to believe it either.

It was wrong for the NY Times to publish that sort of smear against McCain, and its wrong to suggest it here against Obama.

As mentioned, I have plenty of good reasons not to vote for him apart from his in/fidelity.

And once again that's not what I said. All I said was that people shouldn't say "he's not the type" I gave an opinion based on psychological principles and suddenly I'm told that I'm saying he's having a freaking affair. Dammit read what's written people!

656 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:31:02pm
657 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:31:15pm

re: #598 Dianna

russia has always been into a greater russia in the past they just called in SOCIALISM IN ONE COUNTRY. when lenin died internationalism really died the rest was just propaganda to support the russian state.

658 Barry the Baptist  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:31:22pm

re: #645 sngnsgt


Yeah, you can see that one coming. Also to be seen coming:

'What about Larry Craig and what he did?'

Victim! Victim! Victim!

John Edwards is a victim!

/sarc
/puke

659 goddessoftheclassroom  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:31:40pm

re: #649 GeeWiz

I'm glad it ended as well as it could.

PA is simply no fault. I won't get alimony because I earn "too much." I hope to get the house.

660 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:31:42pm

re: #633 Joel

Yeah their only decision will be how to work it into all three Law & Order shows.

Manny goes back to Cleveland in 2009.


You think?

661 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:31:45pm

re: #653 sattv4u2

Ha12 That is probably exactly how Beckel (and Colmes) will be spinning it. It all goes back to Bush, the neocons, Halliburton, Cheney and Rove.

662 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:32:17pm

re: #646 Oh no...Sand People!

I understand, I just fit the "he's not the type" category.

Understand completely.

663 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:32:21pm

Still more unraveling of the spin:

He says that he doesn't love Rielle, and yet here it is that he went to her room at the Beverly Hilton in the middle of the night, even after everyone on the planet knows that Liz's cancer returned. And you've got his flacks and toadies claiming he was at the hotel to see one of his former advisers? In the middle of the night, and he had to duck and cower in a bathroom because the Enquirer's reporters were on to him.

Had he truly been at the hotel for a meeting with his adviser as they are attempting to claim now, it would have been real easy for Edwards to get away with the whole story by simply taking the reporters back to the room and having them meet with the adviser. Diffuse the story - destroy the credibility of the rest of the story, etc.

Instead, here we are.

664 paradox42  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:32:35pm

re: #648 Joel

It is hell. I'm so sorry about your mom. How long has it been for your sister?

665 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:33:41pm

re: #663 lawhawk

it would have been real easy for Edwards to get away with the whole story by simply taking the reporters back to the room and having them meet with the adviser.

The problem with that is his "adviser" had nothing to wear but a teddy!

666 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:34:00pm

re: #579 looking closely

Personally, I don't really care if Obama (or any other candidate) cheats/cheated on his wife. So long as it doesn't involve abuse of his elected position (Rezko. . .cough) and it isn't ongoing and scandal-worthy, IMO that's between the two of them.

I think every voter should care. If a candidate for public office cannot honor vows to someone who they are closest too, how can we expect them to honor their oath of office?

667 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:34:27pm

I want to have an affair w/ Heather Nauert...

668 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:34:31pm

re: #660 loppyd

You think?

Yes. As A DOdger fan they have had bafd luck with contracts to free agents (Pierre, JOnes, Schmidt), the guy will be 37 next year, cannot play the field, is a flake, will want a 4 year 100 million contract. He belongs in the A.L. as a D.H. and Cleveland got rid of a lot of salary this year (Sabathia and Blake). He mentioned that he would like to finish his career in Cleveland where it all began. It's possible the Yanks will be dumb enough to give him a large contract as Giambi comes off the payroll.

669 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:35:16pm

re: #610 Dianna

Yes. Yes, I do.

Remember a majority of Dems are moral relativists. Their worldview does not admit to the possibility of ethical 'right' or 'wrong' like we do, written into religious/spiritual commandments, or necessarily creating pain or disruption because the negative results of certain actions are woven into the fabric of the universe.

Dems believe that you have to analyze the situation and the people involved first, then not make judgements - instead have understanding for the psychology underlying the situation, and empathy for the root causes.

670 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:35:46pm

Hmmm.. 669 comments.

671 oldbluesboy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:35:52pm

Was that wrong?
Rev. Jesse

672 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:35:59pm

re: #664 paradox42

It is hell. I'm so sorry about your mom. How long has it been for your sister?

She was diagnosed in April 2001, had a hysterectomy and got herself into an experimental treatment program in which they give you 3 not 2 chemotherapy drugs. It seems to have worked. Sometimes I get survivor guilt knowing that had I been born a female I would no doubt have contracted the disease.

673 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:36:07pm

re: #668 Joel

I think he'll be in pinstripes just in time for his numbers to go down.

Let them deal with his antics. Bitch slap A-Rod in the dugout for all I care.

674 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:36:22pm

re: #670 astronmr20

Yea and I got the dreaded 666.

675 astronmr20  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:36:35pm

re: #669 runrabbitrun

A thousand dings. Well-put.

676 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:36:51pm

Flashback.....
Monkey Business

677 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:37:00pm

re: #638 Silhouette

More than that. Many people have plenty of opportunity to cheat, and many even have the desire to cheat, if not often, then on occasion, but they still do not.


Well, technically you have to have the opportunity and the desire at the same time. Its possible to have the two separately and then not be able to go anywhere.

Also, as you imply, desire is relative. Its one thing to want something in an abstract way, but quite another to actually want it badly enough to go out and try to get it.

But you get the point. I think if you have enough desire, you'll seize the opportunity when (if) it comes. If your desire to preserve your marriage vows exceeds your desire to cheat, you won't.

I might add also that in this case, it wasn't Edwards having a few hours lapse and a one-night stand, he spent months with this woman, and even put her on his payroll. Was this the first time he was unfaithful to his wife? My guess is no, it probably wasn't.

678 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:37:05pm
679 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:38:15pm

re: #667 sngnsgt

I want to have an affair w/ Heather Nauert...

Moi aussi.

She just asked a good question comparing how the media treated a rumor about McCain compared to how they did not cover Edwards. TV is a visual medium and nobody wants to look at and hear Helen Thomas.

680 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:40:40pm

re: #655 Mars Needs Neocons

And once again that's not what I said. All I said was that people shouldn't say "he's not the type" I gave an opinion based on psychological principles and suddenly I'm told that I'm saying he's having a freaking affair. Dammit read what's written people!

Oddly enough, I didn't say you said it. . .only that it would be wrong to do so.

681 DaddyG  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:40:44pm

re: #645 sngnsgt

Bob Beckel to be on Fox News in a few, I bet the first thing he says is:


Beckel and Colmes will launch into a condescending, tongue clicking, head shaking duet on how the Repubs. are so obsessed with sex and THEN lauch into the "Birds do it, bees do it, even uptight Rep's do it..." schtick.

682 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:41:04pm

re: #679 Joel

Moi aussi.

She just asked a good question comparing how the media treated a rumor about McCain compared to how they did not cover Edwards. TV is a visual medium and nobody wants to look at and hear Helen Thomas.

I don't want to look at or hear Helen Thomas.

683 paradox42  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:42:19pm

re: #672 Joel

My mom got very lucky and caught it in stage 1, before it spread. She was bending down to pick something off the floor and imflamed the tumor. She went to the ER and had a CT scan the next day. The surgeon said that taking was like defusing a bomb, it was that close to spreading.

That was 8 years ago. Since then, she's been disease free. I hope she stays that way, and my wishes are with your sister as well.

684 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:42:33pm

re: #682 sngnsgt

I don't want to look at or hear Helen Thomas.

ah ,, c'mon. It's not that bad. I will tell you, however, i also like to stick 9" knitting needles into my irises

685 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:42:43pm

Media Bias?

This is the story the NY Times put on its front page based on rumors about McCain (a conservative Republican) and a lobbyist.

Oh, BTW, let's be sure to throw this in:

"But the concerns about Mr. McCain’s relationship with Ms. Iseman underscored an enduring paradox of his post-Keating career."

There's also a picture of the hot young babe.

...but the MSM has an across-the-board blackout on this when it's a Democrat - until he publically admits it.

686 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:43:19pm

re: #673 loppyd

I think he'll be in pinstripes just in time for his numbers to go down.

Let them deal with his antics. Bitch slap A-Rod in the dugout for all I care.

Yeah they stupidly gave Johnny Damon a 4 year contract and he will be essential luggage for them next year and they moved him to left field. Manny also I believe he is from Washington Heights in Manhattan. A youth movement will never work for the Yanks b/c they have no patience in developing young players but want the quick glamor fixes. A-Rod will be 42 the last year of his contract and how many good young infielders will the Yanks have to get rid of b/c 3rd base is occupied by a guy the Yanks owe millions? Jeter is also starting to inevitably slow down and they gave Posada who is now 37 a 4-year contract and he is done for the year. A lot of bad contacts here in NYC - the Mets with Pedro, Carlso Delgado and who knows how good Johan Santana will be 3 - 7 years down the road?

687 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:43:24pm

re: #680 looking closely

Oddly enough, I didn't say you said it. . .only that it would be wrong to do so.

I know, for some reason I had quoted you before I went into my rant. Sorry. Just really not in a good mood right now.

688 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:44:00pm

re: #684 sattv4u2

ah ,, c'mon. It's not that bad. I will tell you, however, i also like to stick 9" knitting needles into my irises

That's going to leave a mark, too bad you won't be able to see it.

689 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:44:02pm

re: #683 paradox42

My mom got very lucky and caught it in stage 1, before it spread. She was bending down to pick something off the floor and imflamed the tumor. She went to the ER and had a CT scan the next day. The surgeon said that taking was like defusing a bomb, it was that close to spreading.

That was 8 years ago. Since then, she's been disease free. I hope she stays that way, and my wishes are with your sister as well.

God bless her. The problem with ovarian cancer usually is that by the time it is made manifest, it has spread too far.

690 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:45:32pm

re: #682 sngnsgt

Is Helen Thomas still alive?

691 Silhouette  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:46:19pm

re: #677 looking closely

I think you and I are seeing the word desire differently. I treat the wanting to do it and the choosing to actually do it as two different things.

It's a semantics difference, but I do not think we disagree on essentials.

692 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:46:26pm

re: #645 sngnsgt

Bob Beckel to be on Fox News in a few, I bet the first thing he says is:

Maybe Beckel can talk about his hookers for a while.

693 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:46:28pm

re: #688 sngnsgt

That's going to leave a mark, too bad you won't be able to see it.

yeah ,, but I'll always have Helen

[Link: www.citizensforaconstitutionalrepublic.com...]

694 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:46:39pm

re: #690 Joel

Is Helen Thomas still alive?

was she ever?

695 Arizona9  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:47:11pm

The nastiest thing John has done to Elizabeth is just about to happen.She gets to stand beside him on national TV and say she doesn't mind.

I don't have any sympathy for Elizabeth Edwards on that front. She was very much a co-candidate with John. She was an active participant in the whoring of her own illness for votes and she was active sliming conservatives with her self righteous moralism even as she was writing a blog for the truly vile Koz. Remember when she called into Hardball so she could chastise Ann Coulter for participating in hateful politics? This while Elizabeth was writing for effing Koz, the hate King.

She's a stinking hypocrite and very much the political animal-just like John.

696 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:47:34pm

re: #686 Joel

We know a thing or two about bad contracts in Boston, too. But not lately!

697 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:47:51pm

re: #694 sattv4u2

was she ever?


AAAAAAAAAAAAAH LOL LOL LOL

698 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:47:51pm

re: #685 rwmofo

ding ding we have a WINNNNNNNER!

699 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:48:47pm

re: #690 Joel

Is Helen Thomas still alive?

Is that a trick question? Define Helen Thomas and alive in the same sentence...

700 looking closely  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:49:44pm

re: #666 GeeWiz

I think every voter should care. If a candidate for public office cannot honor vows to someone who they are closest too, how can we expect them to honor their oath of office?

Your statement is loaded with multiple assumptions.

How do you know what the candidate has promised to their spouse privately, and possibly decades before?
How do you know that their spouse is the one closest to them? Things do change.
Hod do you know the spouse is living up to their end of the deal?
How do you know that they would honor their oath of office anyway?

Obviously, all else being equal, the one who lives up to his promises is better, but given the choice, I'd rather have the cheater who is a capable executive in elected office over a faithful spouse who isn't able to run a McDonald's.

Here's are a few alternate scenarios to envision. I'm deliberately leaving out the choice of an individual who has been married only once and has always been faithful. Who would you rather have in office:

a. A single serial playboy who has never been married and continues multiple extremely short term relationships on a regular basis.
b. A person who has been divorced and remarried three times.
c. A person who has been married only once, but keeps a conventional mistress on the side (same wife AND mistress for years).
d. A person who has been married only once but regularly fools around. Let's assume that the spouse (Hilary Clinton. . .cough) knows about it and tolerates it so long as its done privately, with the understanding that she is free to do what she likes on the side as well.

And with that. . .I have to go. . .

701 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:49:46pm

re: #694 sattv4u2

was she ever?

She has been an asshole since the Grant administration.

702 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:50:46pm

re: #690 Joel

Is Helen Thomas still alive?

Was she ever?

703 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:51:29pm

THE NEW YORK SLIME PUTS A MCCAIN RUMMOR ON THE FRONT PAGE BUT WITH EDWARDS WERE GET CHRITS CHERPING

friday drinking thread

704 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:51:35pm

re: #699 sngnsgt

Is that a trick question? Define Helen Thomas and alive in the same sentence...

She has got to be the most miserable person in the press corps. I like the way Tony Snow used to handle her. "Thank you Helen for giving us the Hezbollah point of view."

705 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:51:56pm

re: #694 sattv4u2

was she ever?

Missed you post.
GMTA!

re: #702 jcm

Was she ever?

706 captainzot  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:51:59pm

I feel a little bad for his wife... but only a little. She did after all marry this guy, and she's gone to bat for him multiple times. I just don't believe that she didn't know the man and his proclivities. She witnessed him rook undeserving doctors out of millions and probably soothed her conscience by buying a new furniture set for the master bedroom.

I'll reserve the scumbag title only for Edwards himself though, not really for the adultery, which is bad, but for the monumental fraud he perpetrated on others to get into this position in the first place. That IMHO is much worse.

707 dingleB  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:52:23pm

I'm the bastard grandson of a textile worker.

708 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:52:28pm

re: #701 Joel

she was old during u.s. grants term. i think she was around when dino's walked on the earth

709 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:52:41pm

re: #659 goddessoftheclassroom

Go for it and good luck!

710 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:52:43pm

re: #703 yochanan

THE NEW YORK SLIME PUTS A MCCAIN RUMMOR ON THE FRONT PAGE BUT WITH EDWARDS WERE GET CHRITS CHERPING

friday drinking thread

Already started company BBQ at lunch with Redhook ESB.......

711 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:52:57pm

re: #696 loppyd

We know a thing or two about bad contracts in Boston, too. But not lately!

Correct. Theo Epstein bless his soul unlike Brian Cashman avoids bad contracts.

712 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:53:28pm

re: #708 yochanan

she was old during u.s. grants term. i think she was around when dino's walked on the earth

A vicious Israel hater.

713 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:53:46pm

he was never a textile worker he was a son of a sweat shop owner.

714 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:54:19pm

re: #708 yochanan

she was old during u.s. grants term. i think she was around when dino's walked on the earth

The dinosaurs got a look at her and voluntarily went extinct.

715 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:54:32pm

re: #692 rwmofo

And how he paid with a check, and then promptly discovered that this was an invitation to other kinds of fraud.

How stupid can you be?

716 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:54:40pm

re: #704 Joel

Ahh yes, another one of Tony Snow's qualifications for his Press Secretary job.

717 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:54:47pm

re: #710 jcm

chimay ale here and some wood chuck since it is my aniversy i will get a wine chaser too.

718 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:55:29pm

re: #411 HelloDare

Caption contest.

How come Obama is green in that photo?

719 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:56:48pm

re: #716 sngnsgt

Ahh yes, another one of Tony Snow's qualifications for his Press Secretary job.

Tony Snow - one of the few really good Bush appointments (along with David Petraeus and John Bolton).

720 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:56:48pm

re: #704 Joel

She has got to be the most miserable person in the press corps. I like the way Tony Snow used to handle her. "Thank you Helen for giving us the Hezbollah point of view."

I remember a few years ago when they banished Helen Thomas a few rows back. If I were in charge, I'd put Julie Banderas, Megyn Kelly and Jamie Colby on the front row - and maybe that chick on CNN who looks like Halle Berry.

...cuz they all seem to know how to objectively report - or something.

721 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:57:09pm

re: #718 CyanSnowHawk

How come Obama is green in that photo?

Got a thing against people of color huh?

722 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:57:41pm

re: #718 CyanSnowHawk

So he'll look like all the other presidents on our currency?

723 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:57:56pm

re: #715 Dianna

what fool pays a whore with a check and what whore takes a check.?

724 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:58:33pm

re: #723 yochanan

I have no answer for that.

725 Flavia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:59:02pm

re: #169 yma o hyd

I am so sorry for your loss.
I watched my mom go through that 9 years ago,
and I can remember every minute of it.
Hugs to you, if you don't mind my taking the liberty.

726 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:59:37pm

re: #723 yochanan

what fool pays a whore with a check and what whore takes a check.?

Jerry Springer come to mind.

727 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 2:59:49pm

re: #718 CyanSnowHawk

How come Obama is green in that photo?

Racist!

728 twincitiesgirl  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:00:07pm

The depths of his depravity makes me ill. My husband was diagnosed with cancer two years ago--and having an affair would be the last thing on my mind. Hard times bring you closer, not further apart.

My prayers go out to his wife--the hurt, betrayal and humiliation must be excruciatingly painful for her.

What an asshole guy

729 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:00:38pm

re: #720 rwmofo

I remember a few years ago when they banished Helen Thomas a few rows back. If I were in charge, I'd put Julie Banderas, Megyn Kelly and Jamie Colby on the front row - and maybe that chick on CNN who looks like Halle Berry.

...cuz they all seem to know how to objectively report - or something.

Yes indeed. I recall when they put her a few rows back adn took away her "first question to ask at the press conference due to her seniority" privileges. She is a miserable left wing hack.

I am a huge Julie Banderas fan, she holds her own with the guys on Fox's Red Eye when she is on. The idiot Keith Olbermann made her once "The worst Person in the world" and someone wrote "Who would rather insult Julie Banderas rather then party with her - Keith Olbermann!"

Juliet Hudde who used to host Fox & Friends weekend is also a beauty, now she he co-hosts a show on the local Fox network in NYC called "Morning With Mike and Juliet."

730 reno911  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:01:05pm

The first time I ever laid eyes on John Edwards, and heard him speak, I knew he was a lying whore.

Glad to see my instincts are still sharp.

It's Evolution Baby!

731 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:01:07pm

re: #726 jcm

jerry would have the whore on his show

732 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:02:22pm

re: #724 Dianna

I have no answer for that.

Let me try to sum it up:

1) Use hookers.

2) Look in the mirror. Yep, confirmed. That's a LOSER.

3) See #2.

4) Consequences.

733 bikeguy65  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:02:50pm

I haven't read the comments and at the risk of redundancy:

That's not the John Edwards I knew!

734 nyc redneck  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:03:20pm

how could she have ever been interested in that unmanly girly man?
yuk.
if he had made a pass at me, i would have slapped him off his bar stool.

735 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:03:27pm

re: #731 yochanan

jerry would have the whore on his show

They would have a demonstration....

I was in a hospital waiting room and that was on. I've seen better carny acts and he's got a syndicated show? WTF!

736 bikeguy65  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:03:44pm

Now I have to get back to the work of the American people.

737 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:03:47pm

re: #732 rwmofo

Let me try to sum it up:

1) Use hookers.

2) Look in the mirror. Yep, confirmed. That's a LOSER.

3) See #2.

4) Consequences.

I would think that asshats such as Bob Beckel, Alan Colmes and Keith Olbermann could not get over in a Bangkok whore house with a fist full of fifties.

738 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:04:59pm

re: #729 Joel

You can count on me to periodically change the subject to the lovely FNC hosts. Sure am glad that I got that LASIK procedure.

739 code red 21  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:05:14pm

My feelings toward Elizabeth are mixed. On one hand I am extremely sorry for her and her struggle with breast cancer and on the other hand why does she and all of the other wives of these lying bastards stand next to them when they have the press conference or t.v interview announcing what a lying, two timing, pos they are? Political power and position must be what drives them to show the world how much they support their man. Personally, I'd have a conference with him strapped to a table and pull a Lorena Bobbit on him.

740 Dianna  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:05:38pm

re: #732 rwmofo

I really wouldn't know. I do know that I find the stupidity breathtaking.

741 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:06:47pm

re: #738 rwmofo

You can count on me to periodically change the subject to the lovely FNC hosts. Sure am glad that I got that LASIK procedure.

A friend of mine had PRK done on his eyes and it worked out beautifully. I am too cowardly to have LASIK or PRK.

742 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:08:13pm

re: #735 jcm

They would have a demonstration....

I was in a hospital waiting room and that was on. I've seen better carny acts and he's got a syndicated show? WTF!

he was also a democrat mayor (Cincinnati) and Democrat delegate at the last presidential election!

743 Flavia  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:08:35pm

re: #280 Dirk Diggler

It's not like he tripped and wound up with his dick in her.

Don't laugh. It happens. (sarc tag in orig)

Would you believe Talmud has this covered?
(I was going to let the original remark go by, because it's really too
obscure to dredge up, but a 2nd reference was too much to pass up)

744 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:09:40pm

re: #700 looking closely

I do realize that in today's world, the contract of marriage encompasses many things. My comment was based on the traditional sense of the term which most of these "scandals" are included. Politicians spend much time and money convincing the voters their marriage is one in the traditional sense by parading spouse and children for the cameras. Your comment was focused on the exceptions to the rule. I am of the belief that if you find yourself in a bad or loveless marriage, you should end it before you trash the vows.

To use your logic would allow a politician to say that when I took the oath of office, I had no idea just how much stuff I could steal, so I did.

745 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:09:43pm

re: #739 code red 21

As far as Elizabeth goes I am so sorry about her cancer and pray to that she beats it. However I have never liked her, she seemed to me to be an ambitious, ruthless political wife who loves to dish it out but could never take it for herself or her slime ball husband. Remember that ambush interview Chwissy Matthews had set up for Ann Coulter when Elizabeth called in and played the victim card knowing full well that any one who criticizes a woman with cancer will get creamed?

746 SummerSong  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:10:36pm

Haha - At least Edwards didn't try to pull one of these -


How not to fake a heart attack -

[Link: video.aol.com...]

I guess he just done fell out.

747 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:12:27pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!..........Ahahahahahahahaa! Silky pony gets his mane tied in knots. Heh.

748 paradox42  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:13:15pm

re: #742 sattv4u2

Seriously? I always thought that was an urban myth, it just seemed so ridiculous that anyone would vote for him!

749 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:13:27pm

From Hot Air, on why Edwards' hypocricy will bite him in the @ss (and why his political career is dead):

Update: The pile-on begins. Politico flags Edwards’s take on the Lewinsky scandal from 1999:

I think this President has shown a remarkable disrespect for his office, for the moral dimensions of leadership, for his friends, for his wife, for his precious daughter. It is breathtaking to me the level to which that disrespect has risen.

This is very much like the Obama calling for Imus' firing for his "nappy headed ho's" comment, and that he not be on NBC at all, yet giving reverrunatthemouth, he of the "goddamn America" and "HIV is a government conspiracy against blacks," a 'no, he shouldn't be fired' pass on his preaching from a pulpit such garbage. The Dems are such dumb hypocrites. It used to be fine when the Legacy Media controlled the message. But these guys just ain't talked to Al "I Invented The Internet" Gore enough about his mahvelous creation.

750 Reno911  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:13:49pm

Obama-Edwards 2008

A truly depraved ticket.

751 mike332  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:14:16pm

re: #723 yochanan


Jerry Springer, for one, when he was Mayor of Clevland.

752 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:14:26pm

OT, Hey Barry, the Georgians have 2k troops helping us in Iraq. Do we lean on pooty poot like hell or do nothing?

753 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:15:39pm

re: #740 Dianna

I really wouldn't know. I do know that I find the stupidity breathtaking.

Umm, actually I don't know what it's like to use hookers.

I was simply calling Beckel a loser. My feeling is that we owe him this "credit" since the MSM feels obligated to label conservatives with anything negative in order to paint their picture for their continually diminishing audience.

Stupid? Yes.

754 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:15:56pm

me @ 744
Should have included this:
I would like to ask you just one thing, what part of the definition of "vow" do you not understand?

755 solomonpanting  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:16:01pm

From this article

A number of mainstream news organizations had looked into the adultery allegations but had not published or aired stories.

Is there any doubt, whatsoever, the story would have been in every newspaper and on every other media outlet had Edwards been a Republican?

756 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:16:25pm

re: #748 paradox42

Seriously? I always thought that was an urban myth, it just seemed so ridiculous that anyone would vote for him!

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Springer was elected to the Cincinnati city council in 1971.[3] He was forced to resign in 1974 after admitting to hiring a prostitute.[3] The episode was uncovered when a police raid on a Fort Wright, Kentucky "massage parlor" unearthed a check Jerry Springer had written for its "services". Jerry Springer came clean at a press conference. His honesty helped him win back his seat in 1975. In 1977, he was chosen to serve one year as mayor by the City Council.

757 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:17:03pm

re: #751 mike332

Jerry Springer, for one, when he was Mayor of Clevland.

he actually did that while he was on the city council (see my 756)

758 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:17:06pm

obama looks like a fish out of water on Georgia war.

McCain got it almost right.

759 code red 21  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:17:35pm

re: #745 Joel

I had forgotten about that until I read it further up in the thread. It's is a sad time for their family and yet these are the same people who use whatever means it takes to achieve power. That is why I have mixed feelings about this whole thing. Their children are the true victims in this whole sordid mess they certainly didn't sign up to be used as pity pawns. There must be a sell-your-soul-for-power moment in the lives of politicians and their wives. What a life.

760 FldDoc  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:17:46pm

Newt was the devil himself, the lowest of low when it was reported that he had the nerve to divorce his wife when she had cancer. This guy cheats on his wife and has sex with another woman while his wife had cancer and nobody bats an eye. They are sorry for him and how hard it must be to have come clean. Sorry SOB.

761 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:18:02pm

Remember y'all, the donks consider shit like this reume' enhancement.

762 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:18:28pm

re: #741 Joel

A friend of mine had PRK done on his eyes and it worked out beautifully. I am too cowardly to have LASIK or PRK.

I had PRK. I just said LASIK because people ask "What's PRK?" PRK was painless.

763 code red 21  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:18:53pm

re: #751 mike332

Jerry Springer, for one, when he was Mayor of Clevland.


He was the mayor of Cincinnati

764 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:20:22pm

re: #763 code red 21

He was the mayor of Cincinnati

...but the hookers were Steelers fans.

765 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:20:24pm

Hahaha, more funnys, Michigans Atty Gen'l to charge Mayor of Detroit with 2 felony assault charges. If this shit keeps up the donk convention is gonna make the opera scene in that Marx Bros flic look sane.

766 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:20:27pm

re: #763 code red 21

He was the mayor of Cincinnati

he was a councilman in Cinci when he paid for the hooker with a check. He was named Mayor after re-winning his council seat some years later

767 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:20:56pm

re: #759 code red 21

I can't stand these ambitious wives - Hillary, Elizabeth Edwards, Silda Spitzer, Michelle Obama - who launch broadside after broadside at their spouses political opponents then hide behind the "wife" mask when incoming artillery starts bursting all around them. Give me Pat Nixon any day.

768 nyc redneck  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:21:39pm

actually, he is such a girly man, if he had been caught w/ a guy, i would not have been surprised.
he spends too much time on his hair. and i bet he gets manicures and facials.

769 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:21:56pm

What Jerry didn't have his tv show then? He coulda found a willing partner out of the loons he had on his tv show.

770 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:22:39pm

re: #765 pingjockey

was the mayor a obama deligate?

sorry i can't make it the f'''' judge got a ankle bracelet on me.

771 paradox42  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:23:23pm

re: #760 FldDoc

I think they're both scum to be honest. Divorce is grueling and anyone who subjects a spouse with cancer to it is praying on their weakness. I saw what chemo did to my mom and divorce did to my dad, and I couldn't imagine what it must be like to have to go to divorce court after getting chemo.

Besides, just because Edwards is a schmuck doesn't mean Newt isn't and vice versa. They both acted immorally and IMHO inexcusably.

772 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:23:31pm

re: #770 yochanan
I don't know. I'd take a wild guess and say yes.

773 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:23:43pm

re: #768 nyc redneck

actually, he is such a girly man, if he had been caught w/ a guy, i would not have been surprised.
he spends too much time on his hair. and i bet he gets manicures and facials.

Too funny and too true!

774 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:23:45pm

re: #763 code red 21

He was the mayor of Cincinnati

Wasn't Kookinich Cleveland's mayor....
Yep....

It so hard to separate the white trash.....

775 armytramp  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:24:58pm

Aw gee, that's too bad. I really liked his hair.

/Sarcasm off.

776 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:25:14pm

re: #771 paradox42

I think they're both scum to be honest. Divorce is grueling and anyone who subjects a spouse with cancer to it is praying on their weakness. I saw what chemo did to my mom and divorce did to my dad, and I couldn't imagine what it must be like to have to go to divorce court after getting chemo.

Besides, just because Edwards is a schmuck doesn't mean Newt isn't and vice versa. They both acted immorally and IMHO inexcusably.

I think that in this day and age the thought that there is such a thing as 'terminal cancer' is disgraceful. I hope to live long enough to see that scourge eradicated from the world. Don't expect the cure to come from teh Islamic world though.

777 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:26:51pm

re: #770 yochanan

re: #772 pingjockey

he (Springer) was a delegate at large at the 2004 convention

[Link: findarticles.com...]

778 kywrite  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:29:26pm

re: #161 Dianna

I think she's not insisting on a paternity test because she thinks - or thought - or was promised - that he'd marry her when Elizabeth dies. She pushes for the test, and whether it's positive or not, there goes the wedding ring.

Sick, but it makes sense to me.

779 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:29:39pm

re: #774 jcm

Wasn't Kookinich Cleveland's mayor....
Yep....

It so hard to separate the white trash.....

While Kucinich is a kook, he clearly has an eye for the ladies. He's 61. His wife is 30.

780 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:29:53pm

re: #777 sattv4u2We were wondering about the soon to be Felon, Mayor of Detroit. I didn't know Springer was a delegate but it makes sense in a donk sort of way.

781 nyc redneck  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:30:46pm

re: #773 Joel

Too funny and too true!

he is so sleazy. i instinctively recoil when i see him and hear his voice.

782 mike332  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:31:23pm

re: #757 sattv4u2


Thank you. My reaction to seeing Edwards spectacular hubris finally being covered by the (reluctant) MSM made me type without checking.

783 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:33:43pm

re: #781 nyc redneck

he is so sleazy. i instinctively recoil when i see him and hear his voice.

His voice and smile screams out "DIRT BAG!" How on Earth did North Carolinians send him to the Senate? Maybe he ran as a moderate Democrat and moved to the Left as his political ambitions started to get more ambitious.

784 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:33:59pm

re: #780 pingjockey

We were wondering about the soon to be Felon, Mayor of Detroit. I didn't know Springer was a delegate but it makes sense in a donk sort of way.

OH ,, him ,,,,, I'm sure as soon as he's released from prison Obama will pardon him, then make him ambassador to somewhere that lots of diplomatic skills are needed, like Cancun, or Tahiti, or one of those other 12 continents!

785 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:34:35pm

re: #572 Mars Needs Neocons

One more thing against the 'Obama doesn't seem like a cheater': Any husband, while wearing jeans, who lifts one leg onto the arm of a seat on his campaign plane so that the female reporters would have a nice crotch shot is definitely capable of cheating on his spouse. It's all about him. And we know that.

786 shane  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:34:56pm

Some commentator talked about the values he espoused. I hold that the commentator was completely wrong. I believe John Edwards actions represent perfectly the values of his party. His ideals, his values, are perfectly represented by his actions.

I believe the democrat party looks at everyone as serfs. They can't imagine why we little people would ever think that the rules actually applied to them. Look at Gore, Clinton and Kennedy. If you approach them about their sins they treat you like you have no right to bring it up. Much like royalty treated the serfs. I think they are thinking, "Why would you think that rule applies to me? I make the rules"

787 Maximu§  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:36:24pm

Look, all or most of us Men have slipped up one time or another. I had an affair with our 21 year old baby-sitter (15 years ago) until she flipped out and called my wife.....that was the worst day of my life.

In a way, I feel bad for Edwards...I know he's scum, a trial lawyer and he's broken many good doctors careers with his lawsuits, but I know what it feels like to have everything crash down on your head. I specially feel sorry for his wife who is fighting for her life.

Cancer is horrible for the victim, but it also takes a toll on family members, for the spouse most of all. Everyone needs love and physical attention and if your mate can't or won't give you that...you look elsewhere.

788 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:37:28pm

Lying to your partner - wrong.
Lying to the American public as a politician running for office on the basis of your superior morality - scummy.
John Edwards, a - hole and good riddance.

BUT

Monogamy is way over rated and I hope one day it is ok for humans to admit that we are basically polyamorous and its actually not a bad thing, within the context of rules -- such as not involving married people whose spouses do not know, preventing disease, responsibility for offspring etc...

Powerful men and even not so powerful men are going to have sex with other, usually younger women. Every culture, every time period. Liberated women will also enjoy themselves and have for all of our 100,000 plus years as a species.

789 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:42:58pm

re: #787 Maximu§

Cancer is horrible for the victim, but it also takes a toll on family members, for the spouse most of all. Everyone needs love and physical attention and if your mate can't or won't give you that...you look elsewhere.

I suggest that people who find themselves in that type of situation, re-read their vows. I believe you won't find any words about "until it did not work out like I thought it would".

790 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:43:57pm

re: #685 rwmofo

Media Bias?

Also astounding bias of ABC, CBS, NBC re: Stevens (R) v. Kilpatrick (D) scandals:

Spot the Difference

vs this one...

Spot the Difference

791 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:47:29pm

re: #787 Maximu§

Look, all or most of us Men have slipped up one time or another.

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I took the vows of my former marriage seriously and never cheated, even though the last few years were not the most pleasant. Honestly, you sell real men short, as real men don't cheat. Neither do real women.

792 Tilly  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:47:48pm

John Edwards saying I had an affair but the baby is not mine nor did I pay her is better than Bill Clinton saying he smoked but did not inhale...lmfao

793 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:48:31pm

re: #791 RickZ

I only wish I could up-ding you more than once for that!

794 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:50:19pm

re: #791 RickZ

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I took the vows of my former marriage seriously and never cheated, even though the last few years were not the most pleasant. Honestly, you sell real men short, as real men don't cheat. Neither do real women.

Very well put. The vows say "In sickness and in health" - I'm no prude but I strongly believe that if one feels the need to cheat then get out of the marriage and cruise single bars or troll the Internet looking for dates.

795 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:50:44pm

re: #792 Tilly

John Edwards saying I had an affair but the baby is not mine nor did I pay her is better than Bill Clinton saying he smoked but did not inhale...lmfao

Just admitting in stages. The baby is his, imo. Then when he does take a test and this is proven, he can be just as shocked as the reset of us, like when my friends three year old came running in to the room shouting "mommy, mommy, sombody went poopoo in my pants!"

796 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:51:11pm

re: #793 GeeWiz

Thanks. It's what I truly believe.

797 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:51:26pm

re: #794 Joel

see my #793

798 faraway  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:52:48pm

I bet she's a hooker.

799 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:53:02pm

re: #791 RickZ

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I took the vows of my former marriage seriously and never cheated, even though the last few years were not the most pleasant. Honestly, you sell real men short, as real men don't cheat. Neither do real women.


Real men who take the vows of monogammy live up to their word justa s they do not steal from their business partners. But remember, there are healthy adults who do not believe that monogamy has to be a part of their contract.

800 Maximu§  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:53:06pm

re: #791 RickZ

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I took the vows of my former marriage seriously and never cheated, even though the last few years were not the most pleasant. Honestly, you sell real men short, as real men don't cheat. Neither do real women.

Thanks for the sermon Rick, not all of us are as perfect as you are.

801 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:54:05pm

re: #794 Joel

Very well put. The vows say "In sickness and in health" - I'm no prude but I strongly believe that if one feels the need to cheat then get out of the marriage and cruise single bars or troll the Internet looking for dates.

Beyond that, I only have my word, and I value it. Like jury duty oaths, marriage vows are now flexible.

802 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:55:19pm

What are the odds that Olbermann makes John Edwards "Worst Person in the World" tonight - I say 0.5%?

803 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:55:32pm

re: #796 RickZ

Same here. I am a Catholic and took my vows in a church before God and family. I considered those vows as sacred and the most important ones in my liife. To break those vows meant to me that I was a person not to be trusted.

804 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:57:30pm

re: #801 RickZ

Yeah I do not think that it makes one "perfect" to be faithful to ones spouse, but it does make one honorable. I had so many friends who cheated on their wives that I ultimately came to believe that they were doing it just to be "bad" boys who want to see how much they can get away with.

805 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:58:05pm

re: #800 Maximu§

Thanks for the sermon Rick, not all of us are as perfect as you are.

You said, and I quote, "all or most of us Men have slipped up one time or another." That's bullshit, to put it bluntly. And it's not preaching, it's a statement of fact as most or all men do not cheat. But maybe in your circle they do. Or maybe you're projecting your fault in this matter onto most or all other men. If that makes you feel better, then go right ahead.

806 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 3:58:18pm

re: #800 Maximu§

See my post @789.

807 Maximu§  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:00:01pm

re: #803 GeeWiz

Same here. I am a Catholic and took my vows in a church before God and family. I considered those vows as sacred and the most important ones in my liife. To break those vows meant to me that I was a person not to be trusted.

Theres few things worse in life than a Christian who struts around and acts like their sinless.

808 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:00:39pm

re: #803 GeeWiz

I am a Catholic . . .

12 years of Catholic school here. And people think Jewish guilt is bad!

809 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:01:18pm

today is my 34th anniversary
been married longer than some lizards have be on mother gaia. I bet.

810 Florida Lady  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:01:25pm

re: #506 DistantThunder

I also think that the Obamessiah sees himself as so invincible and he's so narcissistic, that I could very easily see him having an affair.

"I'll never get caught, and if I do, they will all still love me. After all, I AM The One."

811 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:01:35pm

I had a friend who when his wife (his marriage already was some what on teh rocks) got sick with Hepatitis-C started cheating on her (meeting women on Internet chat rooms) - well she alas died and he said that his cheating haunts him to this day. He tried to ultimately rationalize it by saying how lonely he was and how the marriage was shaky anyway but I recognized it as special pleading.

812 Shay4l  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:03:44pm

Like they say, it's not the crime, it's the coverup that does ya in.

813 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:03:46pm

re: #809 yochanan

today is my 34th anniversary
been married longer than some lizards have be on mother gaia. I bet.

Congratulations!
Mazal tov!

814 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:04:49pm

re: #791 RickZ

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I took the vows of my former marriage seriously and never cheated, even though the last few years were not the most pleasant. Honestly, you sell real men short, as real men don't cheat. Neither do real women.

There's lots of things people feel an overwhelming desire to do, lie, cheat when no-one's looking, steal if there's a pretty bauble on the floor of a friend's bathroom - but they use the power only granted to human beings to rise above their biological commands and hormonal demands. (Cats and dogs don't have sex because they WANT to - they do it because they HAVE to when presented with certain stimulus. Only if another instinct takes precedence - fear of the alpha male for example - will they decline). We may take chances with sex because failure won't necessarily land us in jail, but the pain and repercussions that will rock your inner and outer world as consequence of the action of cheating on a vowed partner cannot be so easily avoided - at least for long.

Free will is NOT the popularly supposed ability to do whatever you feel like whenever you want to - all mammals are capable of that. True free will is a more difficult gift to grapple with, that's why we look to masters of the wisdom through the ages to show us what we are capable of achieving... the freedom NOT to be led around by the old hormonal/chemical path, but by the new higher path of the upper cortex - thought and reason.

815 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:04:50pm

re: #809 yochanan
Bravo! My parents 50th was in July. I take that vow as seriously as i took my oath to defend the constituition. It is not negoitable.

816 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:06:06pm

Edwards probably won't be speaking at the convention. But that's okay, Clinton can stand in for him.

817 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:06:54pm

Right now Julie Banderas filling in for Doofus Shepard Smith. Now there's a gal (J.B.) I would love to have a date with (I am assuming she is single). So far tonight - Heather Nauert, Kirsten Powers, and Julie Banderas. Enough to make me feel 18 years old again - my cup runneth over.

Uggh - Hillary is on spouting insincere platitudes about Obama - she wants Obama to become President less then I do!

818 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:08:06pm

re: #804 Joel

Yeah I do not think that it makes one "perfect" to be faithful to ones spouse, but it does make one honorable.

Well said, Joel. I can look at myself in the mirror and be okay with what I see, not that I'm perfect or anything. I value my personal honor for no other reason than it's all mine, to keep intact, or to recklessly throw away. I prefer the former; it's easier to keep the truth straight.

819 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:08:30pm

re: #805 RickZ

You said, and I quote, "all or most of us Men have slipped up one time or another." That's bullshit, to put it bluntly. And it's not preaching, it's a statement of fact as most or all men do not cheat. But maybe in your circle they do. Or maybe you're projecting your fault in this matter onto most or all other men. If that makes you feel better, then go right ahead.

Jimmy Carter probably never cheated on Roslynn. He was so fastidious about it that he admitted lust in his heart as a sin, which in Christianity, it is. He is a model of what, morality? I would say idiocy.

McCain did cheat. Strom Thurmond, like almost all men from his time and region and class did, with his house girl, and fathered a daughte. Ditto evry president President of the US from a Southern State, certainly Jefferson and Washington. My point is that it is indeed the norm for men in a position to do so, and not just among scummy people, though certainly JFK counts as both a cheater and a scumbag, Jesse Jackson too.

Most men in the world and in history have "cheated" and do cheat, beacuse having multiple partners is normal.

If you have vows and live up to them, that is great and honorable. But multiple partners is the historical norm not the exception among men on this planet, especially those in a position to act on the urge.
True for many popes, Ghengis Khan, Muhammad. KIngs David and Solomon.

When you consider the non-west, sorry, but it is the norm in every circle, educated and not, rich and poor and judged to the extent that modern world culture influences it.

820 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:08:58pm

well i am 58 and have been married for 34 years i almost don't even remember when i wasn't married to her.

821 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:09:02pm

re: #807 Maximu§

I never said that and don't you dare put words into my mouth in an effort to defend the ones you spoke. Just for the record, I left the church many years ago. I still place a great value on "oaths" and "vows" and do not trust those that dis-honor them. I'm sorry if that ruffles your feathers because it upsets your rationalization of your previous transgressions.

822 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:09:51pm

re: #818 RickZ


Ultimately all we have in life is work, love, and our honor (Freud I believe said that).

823 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:10:51pm

re: #820 yochanan

well i am 58 and have been married for 34 years i almost don't even remember when i wasn't married to her.

A good marriage I believe will add years to ones life. Lucky you.

824 Maximu§  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:11:00pm

Nobody's perfect, Humans make mistakes and Edwards made a big one and I guess I feel abit sorry for him, but I learned the ones that crow the loudest about "taking their marriage vows before God" are ususally the ones who get caught swinging from the ceiling fan with some Bimbo at a roadside hotel.

825 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:11:50pm

re: #809 yochanan

today is my 34th anniversary
been married longer than some lizards have be on mother gaia. I bet.

Congratulations!

I've only been on mother gaia four years more than your marriage. :~)

826 Maximu§  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:12:05pm

re: #821 GeeWiz

I never said that and don't you dare put words into my mouth in an effort to defend the ones you spoke. Just for the record, I left the church many years ago. I still place a great value on "oaths" and "vows" and do not trust those that dis-honor them. I'm sorry if that ruffles your feathers because it upsets your rationalization of your previous transgressions.

Yeah, yeah yeah....I'm done talking to you.

827 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:12:05pm

Hey if one wants to cheat, become a Muslim - you can have up to 4 wives.

828 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:13:04pm

re: #808 RickZ

12 years of Catholic school here. And people think Jewish guilt is bad!

Count me in for 9 years of Catholic school education. 4-12 grade.
Best education money can buy, but convinced me to leave the Church after so many years of Religion classes. LOL!

829 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:13:31pm

re: #827 Joel

you can have more than 4 you can only have 4 at once but under islam divorce is very easy you don't even need a lier.

830 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:13:32pm

re: #825 loppyd

Congratulations!

I've only been on mother gaia four years more than your marriage. :~)

How are you loppyd? How's the job and boy freind and have you seen at least one McCain bumper sticker in Mass. so far?

831 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:14:34pm

re: #829 yochanan

you can have more than 4 you can only have 4 at once but under islam divorce is very easy you don't even need a lier.


Actually, this is how prostitution is done among the "religious." They marry at night and divoric ein the morning. Voila, not cheating.

832 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:14:45pm

re: #823 Joel

A good marriage I believe will add years to ones life. Lucky you.

That's because women keep men from being stupid...

Men without women....
Hey watch this....

Men with women.
Hey watch*whack*
Don't be stupid, now take out the trash.

/

833 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:14:52pm

re: #829 yochanan

you can have more than 4 you can only have 4 at once but under islam divorce is very easy you don't even need a lier.

In Islam all you have to do is say 3 times to your wife "I divorce you". In Londonistan I read where Muslims have several "wives" although only one official wife yet they collect benefits for all their spouses. Lovely.

834 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:15:09pm

re: #819 tokyobk

Most men in the world and in history have "cheated" and do cheat, beacuse having multiple partners is normal.

I know what you're tryting to say, but it's that most men bit. I do like to think of myself as being somewhat above a rutting animal in heat. As runrabbitrun (# 814) said, it's about free will, and how one chooses their actions versus their words, as well as what those words mean to an individual, that is, their value to that individual.

835 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:15:27pm

re: #832 jcm

You won't get any arguments from me.

836 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:15:28pm

re: #830 Joel

i have not seen obama stickers in my part of chicago but go to evanston and they are like flies on a pile of shit.

837 mich-again  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:15:38pm

I wonder who Edward's 61 delegates will go to? Its not like they have any reason to honor his request that they go to Obama and there is no rule saying they have to go to Obama. So technically they are still in play. I wonder if all the bean counters who have the delegate count all figured out just assumed all 61 went into Obama's tally.

838 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:16:09pm

re: #830 Joel

How are you loppyd? How's the job and boy freind and have you seen at least one McCain bumper sticker in Mass. so far?

I'm good - job is good (today anyway LOL), the BF is great and yes I have seen a few McCain bumper stickers in MA!

I even took a picture of a guy wearing a NoBama t-shirt at the Red Sox game last weekend....

How are you? How's life in NYC?

839 rwmofo  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:16:22pm

re: #819 tokyobk

"Strom Thurmond, like almost all men from his time and region and class did, with his house girl, and fathered a daughte. Ditto evry president President of the US from a Southern State, certainly Jefferson and Washington. "

Yeah, right. All Southern people cheat.

Dickhead.

840 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:16:24pm

re: #836 yochanan

I would imagine that Illinois - the state which gave Carol Moseley Braun, Obama, and Dick Durbin to the U.S. Senate is in Obama's pocket.

841 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:17:28pm

re: #834 RickZ

I know what you're tryting to say, but it's that most men bit. I do like to think of myself as being somewhat above a rutting animal in heat. As runrabbitrun (# 814) said, it's about free will, and how one chooses their actions versus their words, as well as what those words mean to an individual, that is, their value to that individual.


I totally admire your position on loyalty and trust. I do think there is something wondeful about rising above instincts as well.

I also believe that monogamy is more of a civilizing fiction than a ordained reality and that there are other ways to be civilized and honorable as a polyamorous person.

842 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:17:43pm

well in the jewish part of the 50th ward there are more john mccain and no bama stickers up were people can see them THANKS TO LITTLE OL' ME

843 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:17:56pm

re: #836 yochanan

i have not seen obama stickers in my part of chicago but go to evanston and they are like flies on a pile of shit.

I wonder if moonbats will now finally remove their faded Kerry-Edwards stickers?

844 mich-again  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:18:05pm

re: #819 tokyobk

Most men in the world and in history have "cheated" and do cheat, beacuse having multiple partners is normal.

Well I guess thats one more reason I'm not "normal". 19+ years marriage and 5 years dating before that and I never even came close to that.

Thats a pretty dim view you have of other people. Projection perhaps.

845 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:18:46pm

re: #838 loppyd

I am hanging in there but am gong to therapy on my knee (so no stolen bases for me). Here in NYC I get stopped every block by young acolytes asking me to "help Barack Obama and the Democrats take back the country" I usually respond to them with a "congratulations you met the only Republican in the neighborhood", whereupon they look at me as if I told them I was pregnant.

846 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:19:07pm

sorry to say you can say kaddish for the ill. gop. the only hope is that a moderate republican can run against gov'r blago some one who is respected

847 RickZ  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:20:15pm

re: #828 GeeWiz

Count me in for 9 years of Catholic school education. 4-12 grade.
Best education money can buy, but convinced me to leave the Church after so many years of Religion classes. LOL!

Hell, I'm a wedding/funeral Catholic now. I really do think I went to George Carlin's Our Lady of Great Agony, too. Pulled out of church in second grade by my ears. Slapped, rulered, yardsticked, and pointered quite often, at least until I got the idea that certain things I did led to pain. And to quit doing them. Catholic guilt coupled with nuns of poverty who had nothing to lose.

848 HDrepub  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:20:25pm

re: #840 Joel

I would imagine that Illinois - the state which gave Carol Moseley Braun, Obama, and Dick Durbin to the U.S. Senate is in Obama's pocket.

A lot of folks from Illinois will tell you, "We didn't elect these people, Chicago did."

849 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:20:29pm

re: #843 loppyd

I wonder if moonbats will now finally remove their faded Kerry-Edwards stickers?

To think how close Kerry came to being President which would have made the Silky Pony the heir presumptive. As much as Bush has disappointed me his second term, we dodged a bullet when J F'n Kerry lost.

850 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:21:08pm

re: #848 HDrepub

A lot of folks from Illinois will tell you, "We didn't elect these people, Chicago did."

I hope that the GOP can give Obama a run for the money in his home state.

851 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:21:48pm

re: #850 Joel

not likely as the gop is dead in ill.

852 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:21:59pm

re: #839 rwmofo

"Strom Thurmond, like almost all men from his time and region and class did, with his house girl, and fathered a daughte. Ditto every president President of the US from a Southern State, certainly Jefferson and Washington. "

Yeah, right. All Southern people cheat.

Dickhead.

Wealthy Southern white males in the antebellum period almost all both lost their virginity to and carried on affairs with their slaves. In places like Charleston and Louisiana, where there were very large populations of the children of these liasons created a new free black class, the evidence of "miscegenation" as a common practice is undeniable.

Read any accepted Southern historian such as Carl Deglar. This is not something even pro South historians deny. Though given that you turned my very specific statement into a general slur I am not sure you have that strong a feel for words.

853 Mr Spiffy  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:23:08pm

I'm thinking how close this adulterer was to being VP;one misstep during a "chance encounter on a dock" from the Oval Office.

854 paradox42  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:23:09pm

re: #851 yochanan

If I know IL. they won't stay dead for long...

855 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:23:28pm

re: #845 Joel

I am hanging in there but am gong to therapy on my knee (so no stolen bases for me). Here in NYC I get stopped every block by young acolytes asking me to "help Barack Obama and the Democrats take back the country" I usually respond to them with a "congratulations you met the only Republican in the neighborhood", whereupon they look at me as if I told them I was pregnant.

Actually if you were pregnant, they would loooove your transgendered/confused ass! LOL

Sorry about your knee. Hope it's healed up soon!

856 HDrepub  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:24:13pm

re: #850 Joel

I hope that the GOP can give Obama a run for the money in his home state.

Hope for change in Illinois. How about them apples Steve Urkel Obama?

857 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:24:20pm

re: #851 yochanan

not likely as the gop is dead in ill.

You want to see dead GOP? Check out New York State - thank you former Governor Pataki, former Senator D'Amato. Yes the GOP in Illinois who gave you ALan Keyes.

858 HDrepub  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:25:50pm

re: #857 Joel

You want to see dead GOP? Check out New York State - thank you former Governor Pataki, former Senator D'Amato. Yes the GOP in Illinois who gave you ALan Keyes.

Which in turn gave us Barack Hussein Obama.

859 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:25:55pm

re: #855 loppyd

in the city it is between machine centerists vs. leftist moonbats.
out side of the big 'shity' it is between donks and elephants except for places like oak park and evanston

860 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:25:58pm

re: #787 Maximu§

I'm sorry for you, and glad it sounds like you have learned from the experience.

But, not everyone has this weakness. I have been married nearly 10 years and have PERMISSION to cheat. I have no interest in it. I picked this woman and wanted to marry her, and I still feel this way. (actually more so, since we didn't know each other well when we got married.) Not everyone has the same ability to cheat apparently.

861 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:26:00pm

re: #856 HDrepub

Hope for change in Illinois. How about them apples Steve Urkel Obama?

Some Obama scolyte came up to me the other day and asked if Iwas for "Hopenchange" - I took a #20 bill out and said "Here, go get me some change and I hope you return" - of course I did not hand it to her as I would never see the money again. She actually laughed.

862 tokyobk  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:26:13pm

re: #844 mich-again

Well I guess thats one more reason I'm not "normal". 19+ years marriage and 5 years dating before that and I never even came close to that.

Thats a pretty dim view you have of other people. Projection perhaps.


If I thought non-monagamy was bad, it might indeed be a projection. I think cheating is bad because it breaks a promise to someone supposedly close. I find it neither dim nor wrong to be polyamorous, quite the opposite; unless it involves lying, cheating, transmitting disease or neglecting offspring.

People who begin with the false premise that they want to be in a monogmaous relationship because it is , well you know just better, are the ones who end up lying, cheating transmitting disease and fathering offsping they do not care for.

863 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:26:24pm

re: #827 Joel

Hey if one wants to cheat, become a Muslim - you can have up to 4 wives.

Only if you can afford them.

864 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:26:55pm

re: #858 HDrepub

alan keyes ran the worst sen. campaign i ever saw and he is not from ill. it was all about alan keys book. nothing about the ill. gop.

865 runrabbitrun  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:27:33pm

re: #841 tokyobk

I totally admire your position on loyalty and trust. I do think there is something wondeful about rising above instincts as well.

I also believe that monogamy is more of a civilizing fiction than a ordained reality and that there are other ways to be civilized and honorable as a polyamorous person.

Remember - I'm speaking of monogamy as the right thing to do - from which, once you've committed to such an oath, you cannot escape the consequences of this action on any plane (mental, physical, or spiritual, no matter how you try to wish it away!) only referring to people who have made the decision to take a vow to remain faithful to one person.

866 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:28:17pm

re: #855 loppyd

Thanks. I am glad to see you again on LGF and next time I get to Boston I will definitely look you up. Here in NYC they already have the Jets in teh Super Bowl because of Brett Favre (who they are already referring ot as "Jet Favre" and "Broadway Favre") - Gag me!

867 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:28:20pm

re: #826 Maximu§

Yeah, yeah yeah....I'm done talking to you.

Why is that? Have I hit a nerve? I tried to preserve a marriage of 24 years after my wife cheated because I had a belief in those vows. I'm a guy, try dealing with that tough guy. Imagine telling your children why you are divorcing your wife, their mother. Lazy attiitudes like yours made my parental job tougher. Cop your attitudes and witness the decay of not only the social fabric, but the political one as well. I speak LGF, you speak MSNBC. Opinions on blogs is great, reality is a bitch and she can get really ugly, trust me.

868 HDrepub  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:28:33pm

re: #864 yochanan

alan keyes ran the worst sen. campaign i ever saw and he is not from ill. it was all about alan keys book. nothing about the ill. gop.

Like I said upthread, that fact gave us BHO and his WAB.

869 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:29:15pm

re: #841 tokyobk

I totally admire your position on loyalty and trust. I do think there is something wondeful about rising above instincts as well.

I also believe that monogamy is more of a civilizing fiction than a ordained reality and that there are other ways to be civilized and honorable as a polyamorous person.

I'm not sure. There are many in the Psychological field that believe men are programmed to reproduce with younger women and as many as possible. Also they believe that women are programmed to throw aside potential mates for more successful ones.

But, there are also others that are considering the idea that we are actually hard coded for monogamy as some other animals are. Even amongst primates there is a wide variation in mating behavior.

870 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:29:27pm

re: #863 Mars Needs Neocons

Only if you can afford them.

In Europe the generous and suicidal welfare systems will take care of that.

871 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:31:34pm

re: #863 Mars Needs Neocons

re: #827 Joel

Hey if one wants to cheat, become a Muslim - you can have up to 4 wives.

Only if you can afford them.

I remember my Mom retelling a conversation with a Kurdish village women. She'd been encouraging her husband to take more wives, then she wouldn't have to work so hard.

872 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:32:16pm

re: #871 jcm

yeah those [bigoted word]s are real progressives ain't they?

873 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:32:23pm

Edwards is blaming his infedilty on the campaign making him "egocentric and narccistic". BS, he was those befor the campaign. Once again someone blaming something other than their own moral shortcomings for their problems.

874 Mars Needs Neocons  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:32:31pm

re: #871 jcm

I remember my Mom retelling a conversation with a Kurdish village women. She'd been encouraging her husband to take more wives, then she wouldn't have to work so hard.

I've heard that before. I also talked to a Muslim man who said "Why do I want another wife? The current one makes me miserable enough for four".

875 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:32:40pm

re: #866 Joel

You too!

All the more reason to loathe the Jets!

876 yochanan  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:33:25pm

and the kurds are not the extremists of the muslim lot
the sufi are the most moderate as a group in the balkins the whabists are attacking the sufi.

877 solomonpanting  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:33:45pm

re: #841 tokyobk

I also believe that monogamy is more of a civilizing fiction than a ordained reality and that there are other ways to be civilized and honorable as a polyamorous person.

That sure is a polite, endearing way to describe adultery.

878 GeeWiz  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:33:57pm

re: #847 RickZ

If you and I were to get together....well fuugggaaatttaaaabbbooouutt!

879 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:34:01pm

re: #875 loppyd
Brett is gonna git killed. IIRC, the Jets don't have a real stellar offensive line.

880 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:34:14pm

re: #869 Mars Needs Neocons

I have a slightly different take. I think we may be biologically programmed for promiscuity. But socially we've discovered over time that momogamy works better for preservation of society.

We have diametrically opposed pressures. The societal developement of duty and responsibility vs. the biological pressure.

881 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:34:40pm

mega thunder & lightning here....

BBL

882 irongrampa  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:34:54pm

Most troubling to me is that the only victim in this sorry mess is also the only innocent.

I simply hope that this child receives the love and support she'll need growing up.

883 loppyd  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:35:15pm

re: #879 pingjockey

Brett is gonna git killed. IIRC, the Jets don't have a real stellar offensive line.

Chad Pennington could end up wearing a Pats uniform!

884 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:35:33pm

BBIAW. Fight nice.

885 pingjockey  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:36:04pm

re: #883 loppyd
No! Really?! Hahaha.

886 jcm  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:36:25pm

re: #874 Mars Needs Neocons

I've heard that before. I also talked to a Muslim man who said "Why do I want another wife? The current one makes me miserable enough for four".

In the case of the village woman she had a point, she had to walk to get water, collect manure for cooking fuel, cook everything from staples etc... more women would ease the load.

Polygamy in Iran was far more common in the villages with the substance lifestyle work loads, than in the towns with modern conveniences.

887 wiffersnapper  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:37:07pm

So does he get to speak at the convention now?

888 Joel  Fri, Aug 8, 2008 4:37:24pm

re: #875 loppyd

You too!

All the more reason to loathe the Jets!

Eric Mangenious my ass!
Inhindsight I think that the Pats would have been better off last year if they had lost a couple of games earlier or in the middle of the season. In a sense they had two albatrosses hanging over them - going perfect for the season and winning the Super Bowl which I think turned out to be too much. I still think that Brady's high ankle sprain was more of a factor then he let on.