But what does this have to do with John Edwards?

Damn- now I wish I had an iphone.

Awesome, more fun to have with my new i-phone...

iPhoneist!

Discriminating against non-iPhone owners! I demand you take some of the coolness from iPhone users to the less fortunate!

Maybe Obama will help!

Damn!

I went to get an iPhone for myself and lil Reine, and apart from the fact that they didn't have any right now, they told me they could not let us get them anyway, because my current contract hasn't reached the point where I can "upgrade".

I pointed out to them that if I got 2 iPhones and 2 iPhone plans, I would be paying them more money each month. In other words, they stood to get more from me each month.

No dice. Have to wait 'til next March.

On Fox now.

Statement from Edwards.

He continues to lie. What a POS

*crossing fingers for hat tip*

Very cool. There's also a wordpress blogging app out there that you might take a peek at to see if you want to duplicate the functionality Charles.

re: #7 baxtrice

*crossing fingers for hat tip*

Hat tip for what? The LgF icon that Charles created himself, or the John Edwards story that's plastered solid all over electronic media?

re: #9 astronmr20

Hat tip for what? The LgF icon that Charles created himself, or the John Edwards story that's plastered solid all over electronic media?

Earlier this week, I sent Charles a link on how to create the web clip icon. So I'm hoping I get a hat tip.

This might just push me over the top for getting one. my contract is up in a few days.

Sprint's "everything" plan for 99/month is very tempting, but I just don't think I can bare windows mobile or a blackberry interface.

re: #10 baxtrice

Ahh.

suggestions:

1) i had trouble posting from my iphone a few weeks back. Have these troubles been seen/addressed?

2) have a "jump to new comments" at the top of the page that intrapage link -- so that one doesn't have to scroll down through large pages.

Next, we need an Iphone LGF app. Mush, Charles, mush!

re: #11 astronmr20

This might just push me over the top for getting one. my contract is up in a few days.

Sprint's "everything" plan for 99/month is very tempting, but I just don't think I can bare windows mobile or a blackberry interface.

I've had my iPhone since it came out last summer, it's well worth it. I haven't had any issues wtih AT&T, but I've never used Sprint, so I can't really compare services for you. Just know that the iPhone hardware is Awesomeness!

Amazingly, you don't have to pay $999.99 for this.

re: #10 baxtrice

Earlier this week, I sent Charles a link on how to create the web clip icon. So I'm hoping I get a hat tip.

Thanks -- in this case I've had the iPhone SDK for a while now, and already knew how to do this. Just needed the actual iPhone.

Apple removes I Am Rich, a $1,000 featureless iPhone application

Eight people bought the software, which has no function except to alert other people that you have money.

By Mark Milian
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

August 8, 2008

Eight iPhone owners have joined an elite clan: Their gadget is running a program that cost nearly $1,000.

When the iPhone first hit the market in June 2007, those who paid the $499 entry price -- and signed the two-year AT&T contract -- owned a status symbol. A year later, we have the iPhone 3G, Apple Inc.'s speedier, sleeker and, most important, less expensive smart phone, which introduced a section for downloading third-party applications.

Now that the phone is affordable enough for a wider audience, a new status symbol has emerged: a seemingly useless application called I Am Rich.

Its function is exactly what the name implies: to alert people that you have money in the bank. I Am Rich was available for purchase from the phone's App Store for, get this, $999.99 -- the highest amount a developer can charge through the digital retailer, said Armin Heinrich, the program's developer.

Once downloaded, it doesn't do much -- a red icon sits on the iPhone home screen like any other application, with the subtext "I Am Rich." Once activated, the user is treated to a large, glowing gem. That's about it. For a thousand dollars.

Apple, which didn't respond to requests for comment, apparently had some problems with I Am Rich. After initially approving it for distribution, the company has since removed it from the store.

Heinrich, a German software developer, has yet to hear back from Apple concerning the removal. "I have no idea why they did it and am not aware of any violation of the rules to sell software on the App Store," Heinrich said in an e-mail to The Times on Thursday.

But Apple couldn't pull it down before curious aristocrats had purchased it -- eight times. Six people from the U.S., one from Germany and one from France dropped a grand for the gem in the first 24 hours it was available, Heinrich said. That's $5,600 in revenue for Heinrich and $2,400 for Apple, which collects 30% of each sale for "store upkeep."

In the e-mail, Heinrich said there seemed to be a market for the program. "I am sure a lot more people would like to buy it -- but currently can't do so," Heinrich said. "The App is a work of Art and included a 'secret mantra' -- that's all."

A possible explanation for its removal: A screen shot of an App Store review that has been circulating around the Web recently, showing a user's complaint that he purchased it accidentally. "I saw this app with a few friends and we jokingly clicked 'buy' thinking it was a joke, to see what would happen. . . . THIS IS NO JOKE. . . . DO NOT BUY THIS APP AND APPLE PLEASE REMOVE THIS FROM THE APP STORE," it read.

I Am Rich isn't the first software that has been removed from Apple's store. Box Office, a movie showtime resource, and NetShare, which let users connect a computer to the Internet using the iPhone's 3G wireless data service, disappeared without a trace.

re: #17 Charles

Thanks -- in this case I've had the iPhone SDK for a while now, and already knew how to do this. Just needed the actual iPhone.

You dont need the phone Charles, the phone needs you. Turn back before its too late!

re: #15 baxtrice

Had tmobile for the past 3 years or so. Has been okay, but have needed something far more substantial than this sidekick for business apps. particularly, need to be able to read docs and spreadsheets that come from my pop3 mail. However, as much as I like the q and the blackjack, I can't bring myself to get windows mobile, with all the bad reviews out there and people saying it's slow. If I got the blue screen of death on my phone, I'd use it for particle-beam ammunition.

if I get an Iphone, it looks like "mobile me" is worth it, too. I have been inches from getting an Idisc account anyway.

re: #17 Charles

Thanks -- in this case I've had the iPhone SDK for a while now, and already knew how to do this. Just needed the actual iPhone.

Ahh, I didn't know if you knew, but I sent it anyway. Good to hear that you are loving the iPhone! When should we expect the Lizard App? :)

If you’re an iPhone geek, Little Green Footballs now has one of those shiny iPhone-specific application icons. To put the icon on your iPhone homepage, browse to LGF in Safari and hit the plus symbol at the bottom of the screen, then choose “Add to Home Screen.”

Charles, believe it or not, I already did that -- an hour before this thread was posted! Now I've got a big green football on my iPhone home screen

Received third job rejection out of five this week, two more to go.

re: #13 keithgabryelski

2) have a "jump to new comments" at the top of the page that intrapage link -- so that one doesn't have to scroll down through large pages.

GREAT idea! A real problem with long threads on iPhones w/LGF is scrolling scrolling scrolling scrolling to get to the bottom of the page.

re: #23 Mars Needs Neocons

Don't worry.. 4th or 5th will be a charm. Keep us posted.

re: #24 zombie

But at least you can zip your finger across the screen to get it to slide down!

re: #13 keithgabryelski

suggestions:

1) i had trouble posting from my iphone a few weeks back. Have these troubles been seen/addressed?

2) have a "jump to new comments" at the top of the page that intrapage link -- so that one doesn't have to scroll down through large pages.

Oops, didn't mean to ding that comment down. I'm posting this with my iPhone...

re: #18 Bob in Breckenridge

I Am Rich isn't the first software that has been removed from Apple's store. Box Office, a movie showtime resource, and NetShare, which let users connect a computer to the Internet using the iPhone's 3G wireless data service, disappeared without a trace.

Fortunately, "More Cowbell!" is still available.

re: #24 zombie

GREAT idea! A real problem with long threads on iPhones w/LGF is scrolling scrolling scrolling scrolling to get to the bottom of the page.

...And now that zombie has an Iphone, when can we expect the Zomblog button?

re: #24 zombie

scrolling scrolling scrolling

"... Rawhide!"

re: #29 astronmr20

...And now that zombie has an Iphone, when can we expect the Zomblog button?

Not to mention the Scrotal Inflation App.

BTW, I did some research and discovered that, with my jailbroken and unlocked (old) iPhone, I can now use AT&T (of course), T-Mobile, or any number of local carriers who use the "GSM" technology.

I can't use Sprint, Verizon, and a few others.

re: #27 Charles

Oops, didn't mean to ding that comment down. I'm posting this with my iPhone...

LOL

re: #28 Occasional Reader

This is my favorite.

You know, for i-coholics.

re: #20 astronmr20

Had tmobile for the past 3 years or so. Has been okay, but have needed something far more substantial than this sidekick for business apps. particularly, need to be able to read docs and spreadsheets that come from my pop3 mail. However, as much as I like the q and the blackjack, I can't bring myself to get windows mobile, with all the bad reviews out there and people saying it's slow. If I got the blue screen of death on my phone, I'd use it for particle-beam ammunition.

if I get an Iphone, it looks like "mobile me" is worth it, too. I have been inches from getting an Idisc account anyway.

Get an old iPhone, do the "unlock" and "jailbreaks" software hacks (often combined into one), and then you can use T-Mobile ON your iPhone! That's what I'm going to do.

re: #35 zombie

Get an old iPhone, do the "unlock" and "jailbreaks" software hacks (often combined into one), and then you can use T-Mobile ON your iPhone! That's what I'm going to do.

With all the data, too?

I am sorta looking forward to 3G speeds and WIFI for web.

re: #23 Mars Needs Neocons

Received third job rejection out of five this week, two more to go.

Damn!

re: #27 Charles

Oops, didn't mean to ding that comment down. I'm posting this with my iPhone...

See how hard it is to type and hit screen buttons accurately?!?! I'm still not used to it. Honestly, MUCH more difficult that an actual mini-keyboard.

re: #35 zombie

You beat me to it.

re: #29 astronmr20

...And now that zombie has an Iphone, when can we expect the Zomblog button?

re: #31 Occasional Reader

Not to mention the Scrotal Inflation App.

Hey, I've owned this thing for five days now, and I JUST found out (15 minutes ago) how to turn it off. Seriously.

I am an anti-geek. I couldn't make a zomblog button or a scrotal inflation app if my life depended on it.

re: #23 Mars Needs Neocons

Received third job rejection out of five this week, two more to go.

Just keep fighting the fight...something will pop up.

re: #32 zombie

BTW, I did some research and discovered that, with my jailbroken and unlocked (old) iPhone, I can now use AT&T (of course), T-Mobile, or any number of local carriers who use the "GSM" technology.

I can't use Sprint, Verizon, and a few others.

Told ya
/

re: #36 astronmr20

With all the data, too?

I am sorta looking forward to 3G speeds and WIFI for web.

Whatever T-Mobile has, you can do it on your iPhone, once you've unlocked it.

But be aware that this works only for first-generation iPhones. The new 3G ones have not yet been fully hacked, so you can't switch to a non-AT&T carrier (unless you buy the super-expensive planless version). So you can't get 3G speed.

PHOTO!, photo!, photo!
Charles, please post a photo of your iPhone with the LGF button.

re: #41 Oh no...Sand People!

Just keep fighting the fight...something will pop up.

It's not looking like it'll be soon enough to save me.
Just went to job postings and there have only been 40 new jobs posted in the last two weeks, and I don't qualify/can't do any of them.

I'm sick! I put the LGF icon right next to NYT.

OK, there's now a "Jump to bottom" link right below the disclaimer area...

re: #47 Charles

OK, there's now a "Jump to bottom" link right below the disclaimer area...

My index finger thanks you.

re: #43 zombie

Whatever T-Mobile has, you can do it on your iPhone, once you've unlocked it.

But be aware that this works only for first-generation iPhones. The new 3G ones have not yet been fully hacked, so you can't switch to a non-AT&T carrier (unless you buy the super-expensive planless version). So you can't get 3G speed.

The thing to keep in mind is what I said the other day. You have multiple types of GSM networks and CDMA. As long as your phone is compatible with the network you want and is unlocked (with a clear esn) you can use it. Apple made it a little harder, but still doable.

What's annoying about the iPhone home page is that you can't delete any of the built-in apps, even if you have no use for them. But I discovered a workaround: you can create a second "home page," then move all the unwanted apps over there, and then never look at it -- leaving just the ones you want on the main home page.

So, I moved "Stocks," "Calendar," "YouTube" and "iTunes" off the main page, and then added "LGF" "Google Advanced Search" button in their place! A nice big juicy green football.

re: #44 Fritz_Katz

PHOTO!, photo!, photo!
Charles, please post a photo of your iPhone with the LGF button.

I could do that, if you want.

re: #51 zombie
Please do.

re: #46 woodpussy

I'm sick! I put the LGF icon right next to NYT.

Lizards versus dinosaur fossil?

re: #51 zombie

I could do that, if you want.

I'm just thinking about a LGF wallpaper for my Treo. In fact I'd like to change that horrible start flag to a green football.

re: #44 Fritz_Katz

PHOTO!, photo!, photo!
Charles, please post a photo of your iPhone with the LGF button.

Just did -- it's added above.

While I don't own an iPhone, I know the whole navigation metaphor is outstanding.

My problem with iPhone is Big Brother in Cupertino (iBrother?) And I have written code for a variety of mobile platforms and find the trend towards locking down platforms to be a backwards step, and Apple seems to be contributing to that. (In fairness to Apple, RIM got it going by requiring signed apps and restricted access to many api calls.)

I am therefore hopeful that the other big brother in the valley (Google) can get android some tailwind so we can have more open standards for mobile devices.

/soapbox off

re: #47 Charles

OK, there's now a "Jump to bottom" link right below the disclaimer area...

You still have 85 email messages? Spooky.

And to all lizards. I just installed the GOP toolbar on firefox today. I figure since I can't afford to donate, I can at least create funding by using the internet.

re: #55 Charles

Still with 85 emails!

This great.....

Watch the video at orbusmas.com (N.W. Drudge).

Follow the link and make your own!

re: #59 Sharmuta

Still with 85 emails!

email thread.
email thread.
email thread.

Charles gets the best hate mail.

re: #57 lawhawk

You still have 85 email messages? Spooky.

Yeah -- I haven't read or checked email on the iPhone yet, so it's still showing 85.

re: #62 Charles

Is iPhone on a command sync model? No push, like blackberry?

Thanks Charles! It's Beautiful!

That thing is drool worthy, I want one so bad.

Damn Verizon and its iPhone incompatible network.

re: #65 paradox42

That thing is drool worthy, I want one so bad.

Damn Verizon and its iPhone incompatible network.

I think iPhone ONLY uses AT&T--THAT'S the real problem.

Voila!

LGF icon on an iPhone!

Oooh, Charles beat me to it!

re: #45 Mars Needs Neocons

It's not looking like it'll be soon enough to save me.
Just went to job postings and there have only been 40 new jobs posted in the last two weeks, and I don't qualify/can't do any of them.

Not that this will help...but while my company was actively pursuing an investor so we could do some expansion, I was desperate to get my wife out of her job, so I pretty much made an executive decision to have her quit early in hopes the investor pulled through. She quit...investor didn't pull through...so I was scouring like crazy to get something to hold us to give investor more time. So down to my last $$$. Being an attempted religious type...Tithing or Bills...Tithing or Bills... I threw down all the money on Tithing... that night I got a call out of the blue and 3 job offers in 2 days later I had to pick which one for I didn't have room enough to do them all...

re: #68 zombie

Oooh, Charles beat me to it!

You thought you could challenge the Lizard Master?
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

re: #67 zombie

Voila!

LGF icon on an iPhone!

Zombie -

Is it 73 degrees where you are too, or are the icons static?

re: #66 goddessoftheclassroom

You can unlock the iPhone to allow other providers, its been done with TMobile I believe. The problem is that Verizon uses CDMA and the iPhone uses GSM, both of which are completely incompatible.

If only Verizon didn't have best reception in the Northeast.

re: #28 Occasional Reader

Fortunately, "More Cowbell!" is still available.

"O-R" -

WHY? -S-

re: #71 karmic_inquisitor

Zombie -

Is it 73 degrees where you are too, or are the icons static?

73 degrees feels about right. It's constantly updated.

re: #69 Oh no...Sand People!

Cool.

re: #47 Charles

OK, there's now a "Jump to bottom" link right below the disclaimer area...

Nice!

re: #73 Dr. Shalit

"O-R" -

WHY? -S-

In case there is some insufficiency of cowbell at some point, and you need to add more.

/duh

re: #72 paradox42

You can unlock the iPhone to allow other providers, its been done with TMobile I believe. The problem is that Verizon uses CDMA and the iPhone uses GSM, both of which are completely incompatible.

If only Verizon didn't have best reception in the Northeast.

I do like Verizon. I wish there were away to patch the iPhone in.

re: #72 paradox42

If only Verizon didn't have best reception in the Northeast.

Verizon has just about the best reception everywhere.

/And I use TMobile

re: #63 karmic_inquisitor

Is iPhone on a command sync model? No push, like blackberry?

They now have a push e-mail option (along with other business related stuff); I haven't added it yet.

re: #55 Charles

Just did -- it's added above.

Hey, did you take that picture with your iPhone?

/I'm a real blonde.

re: #79 karmic_inquisitor

Verizon has just about the best reception everywhere.

/And I use TMobile

Now if I can get all those people to quit following me around.....

re: #74 zombie

73 degrees feels about right. It's constantly updated.

No, but the icon always reads 73.

re: #72 paradox42

You can unlock the iPhone to allow other providers, its been done with TMobile I believe. The problem is that Verizon uses CDMA and the iPhone uses GSM, both of which are completely incompatible.

If only Verizon didn't have best reception in the Northeast.

Yep, just wait for a CDMA iphone. Many companies like to do phones for both networks to expand profit. Not sure if they will ever go that way though.

re: #17 Charles

Thanks -- in this case I've had the iPhone SDK for a while now, and already knew how to do this. Just needed the actual iPhone.

Charles -

Reminds me of me with the MotoQ - had the Instruction Manual burned to CD well before I got the phone. Good going having the Icon up and running within 48 hours of getting the phone.

-S-

re: #56 karmic_inquisitor

While I don't own an iPhone, I know the whole navigation metaphor is outstanding.

My problem with iPhone is Big Brother in Cupertino (iBrother?) And I have written code for a variety of mobile platforms and find the trend towards locking down platforms to be a backwards step, and Apple seems to be contributing to that. (In fairness to Apple, RIM got it going by requiring signed apps and restricted access to many api calls.)

I am therefore hopeful that the other big brother in the valley (Google) can get android some tailwind so we can have more open standards for mobile devices.

/soapbox off

Yes, Apple is guilty of "proprietary-itis," but no moreso than most other tech companies like Sony, Microsoft, and most others. Yes, Apple should be more "people-powered," but they are after all a massive corporation, with everything that entails.

re: #71 karmic_inquisitor

Zombie -

Is it 73 degrees where you are too, or are the icons static?

It tells you the temperature, too? Oh, man...

Maybe one day I'll find a job. I bet my husband would love one of those.

Not a fan of Google, but their push for Open source cell apps is the best thing I've seen in a long time.

re: #62 Charles

Yeah -- I haven't read or checked email on the iPhone yet, so it's still showing 85.

Crap, Charles. My kids wanted to buy me the new IPhone for my birthday...I talked them out of it. Do you think I could ask for one for Labor Day?

At the risk of agitating I discovered something curious. Some of us were pondering some of the pro Serb/anti-Kosovo sentiment and attacks on Michael Totten on some of the right wing blogs including Jihad Watch. I think we have part of the answer.....
Jihad in Kosovo: a Response to Critics

4. My purported role as a highly-paid lobbyist for Serbian interests.

Guilty as charged.
......
. On behalf of Bishop Artemije and his suffering community we are grateful to stalwarts on our advisory board, including Robert Spencer and Julia Gorin, who without remuneration (as some have falsely alleged they receive) have been unafraid to stand up to the barbs directed against them by know-nothings.

Wow. I didn't know that. Anyone have thoughts on this?

That's cool!

re: #87 Josephine

It tells you the temperature, too? Oh, man...

Maybe one day I'll find a job. I bet my husband would love one of those.

Any smartphone can be set up for temp. Mine has a nice front screen displaying Time, Temp, Volume profile, Day and Date, Appointments, Battery Strength, Missed calls number, email number, text message number. A quick brush of my finger brings me to contacts, and another brings me to most used apps.

I like Palm and Windows Mobile because you can highly customize. Haven't worked with Iphone, but I have heard nightmares. But, OTOH a lot of tech geeks are getting them, and I can't picture techies getting something they can't tinker with.

Obama just said he is being constantly updated on the Russian-Georgian crisis? Why? And who is updating him?

OT: German research vessel in Arctic reports -

"... this year there was an exceptional amount of ice."

Anthropomorphic Global Warming continues to take its toll.

/

re: #90 Killgore Trout

That's James George Jatras saying that, not Robert Spencer. Spencer is on the advisory board, but not paid anything. Or did you know that already?

re: #90 Killgore Trout

At the risk of agitating I discovered something curious. Some of us were pondering some of the pro Serb/anti-Kosovo sentiment and attacks on Michael Totten on some of the right wing blogs including Jihad Watch. I think we have part of the answer.....
Jihad in Kosovo: a Response to Critics

Wow. I didn't know that. Anyone have thoughts on this?

So Robert Spencer is a paid lobbyist by Serbia? Did I read that right? Am I confused?

re: #93 Nevergiveup

Obama just said he is being constantly updated on the Russian-Georgian crisis? Why? And who is updating him?

The voice in his head
The last few die-hard ex-KGB marxists in Russia
Michelle
LGF

re: #96 Oh no...Sand People!

So Robert Spencer is a paid lobbyist by Serbia? Did I read that right? Am I confused?

Actually I read that as unpaid.

re: #92 Mars Needs Neocons

My husband is a computer programmer, so I think he qualifies as a tech geek, LOL.

He insists on only buying Macs for home use. I haven't asked him his opinion on any of the smart phones; I'll have to do that tonight. Yours sounds good, too.

re: #92 Mars Needs Neocons

Any smartphone can be set up for temp. Mine has a nice front screen displaying Time, Temp, Volume profile, Day and Date, Appointments, Battery Strength, Missed calls number, email number, text message number. A quick brush of my finger brings me to contacts, and another brings me to most used apps.

I like Palm and Windows Mobile because you can highly customize. Haven't worked with Iphone, but I have heard nightmares. But, OTOH a lot of tech geeks are getting them, and I can't picture techies getting something they can't tinker with.

Jailbreak, baby, jailbreak. Allows any apps to be uploaded to the iPhone, not just Apple-approved ones.

I did it, but haven't had the nerve to add any of them yet.

re: #95 wrenchwench

That's James George Jatras saying that, not Robert Spencer. Spencer is on the advisory board, but not paid anything. Or did you know that already?

No, It's a little confusing. He is on the advisory board though. I'm not sure how I feel about that but it does explain his position wether or not he's paid. I see he stopped in on this thread to explain himself. I guess I missed that, still catching up.

re: #96 Oh no...Sand People!

I'm a little confused too.

re: #90 Killgore Trout

At the risk of agitating I discovered something curious. Some of us were pondering some of the pro Serb/anti-Kosovo sentiment and attacks on Michael Totten on some of the right wing blogs including Jihad Watch. I think we have part of the answer.....
Jihad in Kosovo: a Response to Critics

Wow. I didn't know that. Anyone have thoughts on this?

Spencer talked about his unpaid position on that advisory board on a thread on August 6: at his blog.

re: #98 Mars Needs Neocons

Actually I read that as unpaid.

Oh, yeah, you're right. But what does this mean? Jihad Watch is slanted towards the Serbs over the Kosovars?

I myself still tend to lean that way though not much.

re: #100 zombie

Jailbreak, baby, jailbreak. Allows any apps to be uploaded to the iPhone, not just Apple-approved ones.

I did it, but haven't had the nerve to add any of them yet.

So I've heard. But I've also heard you're pretty much stuck with the page display that they have created. I know there's programs out there that if I chose to pay for them, I could make my Treo interface unrecognizable as windows.

Well, it's been a rollercoaster today all. Later.

see?

I'm gonna have to pay $999.99 to get this, 'cause someone tole me to.

Looking at some of the "unauthorized" apps for jailbroken iPhones right now. I like the concept behind "SpoofApp: Fake Caller ID" -- allows me to call people without them knowing who's calling. Could come in quite handy for someone in my position! And you just know Apple would never approve of an application like that.

re: #100 zombie

Allows any apps to be uploaded to the iPhone

Which makes me a little nervous. I am assuming (hoping) that Apple is screening for malware on the apps it approves. Not so for non-authorized stuff.

re: #101 Killgore Trout

There's more. Still trying to figure this all out.

re: #101 Killgore Trout

Here's a link to a comment by Mr. Spencer from another post over there.

re: #107 noshariaincanada

$999 in loonies or $999 in greenbacks?

/glad there's a difference (however marginal) right now

re: #108 zombie

Looking at some of the "unauthorized" apps for jailbroken iPhones right now. I like the concept behind "SpoofApp: Fake Caller ID" -- allows me to call people without them knowing who's calling. Could come in quite handy for someone in my position! And you just know Apple would never approve of an application like that.

You planning on flying under the radar again soon, Z? More pic?

I'll be impressed with all this techie shit when they can build a phone my 14 yr old can't destroy in 3 months. Until then, whoopty damn doo.

re: #114 pingjockey

I'll be impressed with all this techie shit when they can build a phone my 14 yr old can't destroy in 3 months. Until then, whoopty damn doo.

How bought one that can handle the two foot toilet drop?

re: #114 pingjockey

I'll be impressed with all this techie shit when they can build a phone my 14 yr old can't destroy in 3 months. Until then, whoopty damn doo.

Bullet proof phone........

re: #103 reine.de.tout

The fact that he's an advocate for the Serbs doesn't endear me to him much. I'm not sure if it's a deal breaker for me but genocide is serious business. I'm not sure if I can look the other way and get over it. I'll have to think about this one.

re: #90 Killgore Trout
The article is going to need a second read but the comments are fascinating.

re: #112 Fenway_Nation

$999 in loonies or $999 in greenbacks?

/glad there's a difference (however marginal) right now

well, it's not in Euro, I hope.

Tyson's renegged on taking away Labor Day! They'll still give Eid al whatthefuckever to the Muslims.

Nine holidays instead of eight.

OT, Tyson foods has changed their minds on replacing Labor day with that islam holiday.

you know what icon i'd love to see ?

that cartoon muhammad thing with the bomb in his turban.

American Council for Kosovo
They seem pretty repulsive to me.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

The fact that he's an advocate for the Serbs doesn't endear me to him much. I'm not sure if it's a deal breaker for me but genocide is serious business. I'm not sure if I can look the other way and get over it. I'll have to think about this one.

I was just giving you the info. I had.

re: #120 MandyManners

I think this is a much better solution. I'm glad Americans kicked up a fuss.

re: #116 JCM
I doubt that would even work! He isn't abusive, just wears the damn thing out. Same with his bicycles. Some cell phone or bicycle co. ought to hire him for "rigorous" testing.

I will allow this information about Spencer effect me very little. His writing is great and largely spot on. I will just acknowledge that he has a bias where this is concerned. I do this with everything. I understand many have bias. Guess what, I still read their comments. There's still a lot of good info if you know what you're looking at.

re: #127 pingjockey

I doubt that would even work! He isn't abusive, just wears the damn thing out. Same with his bicycles. Some cell phone or bicycle co. ought to hire him for "rigorous" testing.

LOL, we used to joke about firefighters.

Put a one in a round empty room with two ball bearings, if in 30 minutes he's lost one and broken the other he's qualified.

Killgore Trout:

The fact that he's an advocate for the Serbs doesn't endear me to him much. I'm not sure if it's a deal breaker for me but genocide is serious business. I'm not sure if I can look the other way and get over it. I'll have to think about this one.

Let me put this to you as simply and politely as I can:

Are you nuts?

I don't know why you are doing what you are doing, but just in case it hasn't dawned on someone here:

Opposing jihadists in Kosovo does not equal approving of Serbian genocide.

Let me say that again.

Opposing jihadists in Kosovo does not equal approving of Serbian genocide.

I hope that's clear. What is not at all clear is whether you are interested in fair dealing, or just in smears.

re: #126 Josephine

I think this is a much better solution. I'm glad Americans kicked up a fuss.

Brian Mosely of the Times-Gazette deserves a lot of the credit. He's been all over this story. And, he's done quite a bit of coverage of the Somali refugees and the natives in Shelbyville.

Merchandizing!

Have admired and respected Robert Spencer for a long time. He has taught me much re ROP. He is my man in this fight.

re: #129 JCM
Yep. Sounds like my boy.

re: #86 zombie

Yes, Apple is guilty of "proprietary-itis," but no moreso than most other tech companies like Sony, Microsoft, and most others. Yes, Apple should be more "people-powered," but they are after all a massive corporation, with everything that entails.

I don't have a problem with capitalism. In fact, I look at it as a capitalist. If I want to create an application for mobile users, I look at who is selling what platform for the target market.

The market for iPhone is growing fast, but Apple seems intent on owning the add on application market for it. So I wonder what I can add that Apple won't try to short circuit or replace. Microsoft has been actually pretty good about keeping Windows CE / Windows Mobile open, but are starting to encroach with "managed applications". They also have so much "bloat" from supporting old APIs that you get needlessly complex applications in a short amount of time.

Blackberry has been great - they have a signed app requirement, but once you get credentialed as a developer, the whole thing is pretty wide open.

I am trying to figure out what Apple will ultimately allow developers to do in order to work out a feature map for an application. It is just a bit opaque right now, and the iBrother tactics are a bit anoying.

snowcrash:

Thanks for your kind words. For some reason this "Killgore Trout" character has decided I am on the Dark Side. He can say whatever he wants. But I am not going to sit still for being called a supporter of genocide. He ought to be ashamed of himself, and he ought to retract, and apologize.

re: #117 Killgore Trout

The fact that he's an advocate for the Serbs doesn't endear me to him much. I'm not sure if it's a deal breaker for me but genocide is serious business. I'm not sure if I can look the other way and get over it. I'll have to think about this one.

Killgore, did you see my post?

There is a whole lot more you probably don't know. OUTRAGEOUS stuff:

[Link: kejda.net...]

I did all the research myself and it's ALL sourced.

re: #136 Robert Spencer

What do you have to say about my "hit piece" on Jatras, Mr. Spencer?

Oh, and by the way, "Killgore Trout," no, I am not paid anything by the American Council for Kosovo. I support it because it is the right thing to do. That's all. You should also.

re: #136 Robert Spencer

Please see #137. Your thought?

medaura

I have to say that clearly truth and accuracy mean nothing to you.

goddessoftheclassroom:

See #141.

re: #136 Robert Spencer

You sound nervous... as indeed you should...under that sparkling clean conscience of yours.

re: #140 goddessoftheclassroom

re your #141:

Thank you.

re: #141 Robert Spencer

medaura

I have to say that clearly truth and accuracy mean nothing to you.

I have quoted and sourced EVERYTHING in my article. Care to challenge anything?

medaura:

Yes, I am nervous as hell. You are welcome to class me among your enemies the "Crusaders" and "Jewhadists."

Tell us, "medaura", what do you have to to say about your "husband", "popcontest" making a fool of himself on Spencer's blog?

And what do you have to say about his, and your, agenda of stirring up fights between blogs right now?

I stepped into JihadWatch for the past couple of days, and Spencer and some former LGF commenters were all over me. See for yourself:

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]
[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]
[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

I've had enough of that place for now -- but I learned a lot in the process. Quite eye-opening and quite disappointing.

medaura:

I have quoted and sourced EVERYTHING in my article. Care to challenge anything?

Virtually every assertion you have made about me, my positions, and my work is inaccurate.

As for a line-by-line refutation, possibly when time permits.

re: #135 karmic_inquisitor

I think that my major problem is that some phones like the Moto Q cripple some of the functionality on the WM platform. I chose a WM5 system over a moto q with WM6 because MotoQ crippled the functionality until it was no longer useful to me.

I've found WM5 to be great with it's support for open source software. The only problem I have is most games for WM won't resize to 240x240. This is a major gripe for me, though I've heard there is some software that may help me with this.

MPH:

I've had enough of that place for now -- but I learned a lot in the process. Quite eye-opening and quite disappointing.

Yeah, it's tough when people call you on your smears and confront you with the facts, ain't it?

re: #130 Robert Spencer

Killgore Trout:

Let me put this to you as simply and politely as I can:

Are you nuts?

I don't know why you are doing what you are doing, but just in case it hasn't dawned on someone here:

Opposing jihadists in Kosovo does not equal approving of Serbian genocide.

Let me say that again.

Opposing jihadists in Kosovo does not equal approving of Serbian genocide.

I hope that's clear. What is not at all clear is whether you are interested in fair dealing, or just in smears.

Oh boy...

Does anyone know that the Director of The American Council for Kosovo (a front group for a much more disgusting organization) was a defense witness in Milosevic's trial?

More on it here

re: #130 Robert Spencer

Are you nuts?

Depends on who you ask. Probably yes. The Serbs lost their right to govern the Muslims of Kosovo for trying to kill them all. I'm not trying to smear you, I'm just trying to understand the situation and your take on it. I find it hard to understand why people would still support the Serbs in this situation. I have about as much sympathy for the Serbs as I do the Palestinians. They hate us and in my humble opinion I think they would try to kill all the Muslims in Kosovo again if they thought they could get away with it.

re: #136 Robert Spencer

snowcrash:

Thanks for your kind words. For some reason this "Killgore Trout" character has decided I am on the Dark Side. He can say whatever he wants. But I am not going to sit still for being called a supporter of genocide. He ought to be ashamed of himself, and he ought to retract, and apologize.

Robert Spencer -

I have a lot of respect for you, same goes for Mike Totten. Balkan Wars have in my memory always been messy affairs, not surprising considering the history. As I get it, it is your position that the real situations in Bosnia and Kossovo have received about the same coverage as former Senator Edwards' affair. Am I correct in this understanding?

-S-

"medaura/popcontest/MPH"---what's your real agenda here?

Mr.Spencer,

I only hope you will not have a change of mind/conscience, and delete your own posts/comments on your blog, because I have linked to them whenever it matters in my report, and they establish quite a lot, whether you want to refute your own words line by line, or not.

re: #139 Robert Spencer

I support it because it is the right thing to do. That's all. You should also.

Now we're talking. Can you point me to your best article on why I should side with the Serbs. I'm willing to listen but it's going to be a tough sell.

medaura:

Does anyone know that the Director of The American Council for Kosovo (a front group for a much more disgusting organization) was a defense witness in Milosevic's trial?

Jatras himself has said this:

As is clear from the record of my testimony, which is available on the tribunal's website, I stated that I could provide no information about the defendant's actions, having no first-hand knowledge of them.

And more here.

Your casting this as if Jatras was defending Milosevic's genocide is a neon-light indication of the dishonest way you are playing this issue.

Dr Shalit

As I get it, it is your position that the real situations in Bosnia and Kossovo have received about the same coverage as former Senator Edwards' affair. Am I correct in this understanding?

Yep.

Pardon me, but if y'all want to fight the Balkan War again, LEAVE! we're talking iphones and other stuff. I know, we'll give all the players in Sebia and Kosovo iphones and they'll stop trying to kill each other!

medaura:

I only hope you will not have a change of mind/conscience, and delete your own posts/comments on your blog, because I have linked to them whenever it matters in my report, and they establish quite a lot, whether you want to refute your own words line by line, or not.

You're hoping I won't change my mind and begin supporting the Kosovo jihadists? Allow me to set your mind at ease.

pingjockey

No worries. I am on my way out.

re: #158 Robert Spencer

If you cannot see how despite his lawyerly disclaimers to the contrary, such as the one you just provided, he is clearly defending Milosevic's actions, which anyone around his corner of the world has direct knowledge of, then you are willingly blind...

Have you read his actual transcript and the things he says! I have, and I have linked to it in my report, which you either have not read or are trying to ignore. Read his entire testimony, and then we'll talk, or not, as you say...

re: #137 medaura18586

I'm doing a lot of speed reading here at the moment. I'll check it out in a few minutes. Let's not get out of control here.

re: #162 Robert Spencer
I will tell you this much sir. It is one helluva mess. I don't know enough to comment intelligently on it. The only 'fact' I know for sure is that some of these hatreds have been simmering for generations and there is no fix that won't take years/decades.

re: #160 pingjockey

Sorry, this kinda snowballed. It was meant to be a side discussion but it has taken over.

I remember a conversation I had while posting on Jihadwatch about Iran. I expressed concern the US bombing Iran because of the Iranian Jews who would be killed in the attack.

The response: In a nutshell, sucks to be them, they're fault for living there, tough shit.

I'll never forget that exchange, and I haven't posted there since.

Personally I don't get involved in Eastern European politics, being smarter than that. I know there's people with dark agendas on all six sides of every issue.

re: #150 Mars Needs Neocons

I've found WM5 to be great with it's support for open source software. The only problem I have is most games for WM won't resize to 240x240. This is a major gripe for me, though I've heard there is some software that may help me with this.

It is simply poor coding.

There are apis going back to the early windows CE days that allow the developer to adapt to the form factor of the device, including screen size and orientation (which can change with slide out keyboards like on HTC units).

I write in C++ on WM, so I can change whatever I want whenever I want and the apps run fast. But it is easy to create memory / stability problems if you aren't careful.

re: #166 Killgore Trout
S'alright. It is more interesting than iphone stuff. Heh.

re: #161 Robert Spencer

medaura:

You're hoping I won't change my mind and begin supporting the Kosovo jihadists? Allow me to set your mind at ease.

I am actually referring to the comments where you admonish my husband for shaming someone who was openly supporting Milosevic...

re: #147 TalkinKamel

Tell us, "medaura", what do you have to to say about your "husband", "popcontest" making a fool of himself on Spencer's blog?

And what do you have to say about his, and your, agenda of stirring up fights between blogs right now?

In the words of Mr Spencer himself -- I was "bested intellectually."

I guess it takes a genius to understand how Milosevic was the true victim in the Balkans -- framed by an American-Iranian conspiracy to arm Bosnians. If you tell me the dude was framed, then score a victory for truth and the genius it takes to see it. I'll gladly step aside and admit I am not intelligent enough to understand it.

[Link: kejda.net...]

re: #165 pingjockey

All I know is european ethnic nationalists have proven over and over again that they are not to be trusted.

It's about 7 PM DST--how about we start the FNDT?

Killgore Trout:

There are a great deal of articles. See Jatras' piece at Jihad Watch here.

See also the KLA's ties to Al-Qaeda, here and here. (Sources: Wall Street Journal Europe and Washington Times.)

I oppose Al-Qaeda, and believe that the U.S. government should oppose it as well. A-Q is active in Kosovo, despite the secular character of the majority of the population, as Totten has demonstrated. I believe that Al-Qaeda should be opposed in Kosovo.

Does this mean that I support Serbian genocide? Of course it doesn't. It means that I believe Al-Qaeda should be opposed there, and that other nations should aid Serbia in this, and in doing so make sure that Serbia also doesn't get out of line.

And that's it for me.

re: #173 Sharmuta
That is a completely true statement. The term ethnic nationalist should give everyone the willies.

re: #174 goddessoftheclassroom

It's about 7 PM DST--how about we start the FNDT?

yochanan and I have gotten a head start...
;-)

re: #155 TalkinKamel
A poster named del at the JW (3:14pm) thread you commented on has very interesting theories.

re: #175 Robert Spencer

Thanks, reading now......

re: #177 JCM

yochanan and I have gotten a head start...
;-)

Let me go down to the kitchen and make myself a frozen strawberry daiquiri, and I'll be right back!

paradox42:

I remember a conversation I had while posting on Jihadwatch about Iran. I expressed concern the US bombing Iran because of the Iranian Jews who would be killed in the attack.

The response: In a nutshell, sucks to be them, they're fault for living there, tough shit.

I'll never forget that exchange, and I haven't posted there since.

I was just on my way out but I saw your comment.

Comments are unmoderated at Jihad Watch. If you are suggesting that is my position, you are wrong, any more than the recent posts by medaura's husband at Jihad Watch are my position. I believe that the antidote to bad speech is not speech restriction but more speech, and I'm sorry that you didn't stay to argue your point.

re: #175 Robert Spencer

Killgore Trout:

There are a great deal of articles. See Jatras' piece at Jihad Watch here.

See also the KLA's ties to Al-Qaeda, here and here. (Sources: Wall Street Journal Europe and Washington Times.)

I oppose Al-Qaeda, and believe that the U.S. government should oppose it as well. A-Q is active in Kosovo, despite the secular character of the majority of the population, as Totten has demonstrated. I believe that Al-Qaeda should be opposed in Kosovo.

Does this mean that I support Serbian genocide? Of course it doesn't. It means that I believe Al-Qaeda should be opposed there, and that other nations should aid Serbia in this, and in doing so make sure that Serbia also doesn't get out of line.

And that's it for me.

No.

You believe that Kosovo's independence should be revoked, as does your buddy Jatras, and which is the mission of your little front group for the Serbian National Council for Kosovo Metohije.

Does that mean you excuse or support Serbian genocide? Of course not, because you don't believe it ever happened.

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Thanks, reading now......

Also read this:

I don't mean to shove it down your throat, but this is what Spencer and Jatras probably don't want you to see, and it addresses those points you are now reading.

re: #175 Robert Spencer

From the American Council for Kosovo website:

In addition to its Officers, the Council also relies heavily on the contributions of members of a separate Advisory Board composed of distinguished authorities with experience and expertise in relevant fields – government, military, politics, journalism, religion, academia, and others. The Council’s Advisory Board members might not agree on everything about American policy to date in the Balkan region or about what would be best future course among the many possible options. But they do agree on what course should not be taken: Kosovo independence is the wrong choice for America.

It is intellectually dishonest for Mr. Spencer to pretend he is open-minded on Kosovo's independence.

re: #157 Killgore Trout

Now we're talking. Can you point me to your best article on why I should side with the Serbs. I'm willing to listen but it's going to be a tough sell.

While I don't have a dog in this fight, I am a long time poster and longer time reader here. Years back I posted on Serbian atrocities and got attacked on several fronts.

One guy accused me of being a Croat and (by association) a Nazi.

Another set of folks accused me of being soft on Islamists.

Take it as you might Robert (I am a fan of your work and admire you), but there is a basis for folks here to be skeptical around the whole issue of Serbia. We've had many a Serbian nationalist come on board and end up promoting genocide in one form or another.

Killgore has some justification for skepticism even if you find it offensive.

Hmm, I was all set to fix the popcorn, but my son is interviewing for a post doc in Berkeley and now it's time to go have dinner with him.

Along with the popcorn and drinks, be sure to bring plenty of cloths to mop up the rhetorical blood off the floor. LGF has been attracting some heavy hitters lately.

Be brave, lizards, but be polite.

re: #169 karmic_inquisitor

It is simply poor coding.

There are apis going back to the early windows CE days that allow the developer to adapt to the form factor of the device, including screen size and orientation (which can change with slide out keyboards like on HTC units).

I write in C++ on WM, so I can change whatever I want whenever I want and the apps run fast. But it is easy to create memory / stability problems if you aren't careful.

Actually I think its intentional coding. Many of these companies have multiple screen size versions for sale. (Though, few are supporting 240x240 as yet) They make more money selling multiple types because then a person can't use one version on multiple phones. Just my opinion.

Thank you for your work. I appreciate someone who goes the extra distance.

Right now I'm thinking of buying PIE+ for WM, I'm running the trial, and can't believe microsoft didn't put these features in PIE to begin with. It even makes it easier to read and post on LGF.

re: #168 Thanos

Personally I don't get involved in Eastern European politics, being smarter than that. I know there's people with dark agendas on all six sides of every issue.

A better summation of the situation than my last post.

re: #185 karmic_inquisitor

Thanks for the support.

re: #175 Robert Spencer

Thank you for that explanation, it answered a couple questions I had.

re: #183 medaura18586

I'm getting to it. I have a million windows open right now.

re: #185 karmic_inquisitor

We've had many a Serbian nationalist come on board and end up promoting genocide in one form or another.

And more than that- some have even said our embassy deserved to be burned.

re: #187 Mars Needs Neocons

Many of these companies have multiple screen size versions for sale. (Though, few are supporting 240x240 as yet) They make more money selling multiple types because then a person can't use one version on multiple phones.

I didn't think of it that way. Makes sense.

I do enterprise applications - give bankers access to their computer infrastructure and that kind of stuff. These guys are all getting iPhones and want to do things with them that Apple doesn't seem to want 3rd parties to make possible. I think Apple wants to own those apps, not that they have any experience there. They want to drive blackberry out of business. Just my opinion

re: #192 Sharmuta
What?! Missed that one. Probably good that I did.

re: #181 Robert Spencer

I understand comments are unmoderrated and I do not believe that that is your position.

As for arguing my point, I'm not going to waste time arguing with someone who is most likely a eurofacist or a stormfront slug.

The great thing about the Balkans: They make my people (the Irish) look sane.

re: #182 medaura18586

Well that's it for believing anything you say. Stuffing words in RS's mouth to make him appear to be a denialist makes you less than believable. Don't bother responding, I'm tapping out now, and probably won't be reading more until Monday.

re: #181 Robert Spencer

So dishonest!

More speech is the antidode?re: #191 Killgore Trout

Thank you... I think it's extremely important that anyone does read it, and that's not because I wrote it, but because of the research material in it, and the pure evil that's been unearthed. I feel a bit like Charles might have, when he did his prelimiary research into GOV/Vlaams Belang/and the other crypto-euro-nazis... that is... I feel like I need a looong shower because this stuff is FILTHY, and Spencer should be ashamed of himself.

re: #194 pingjockey

What?! Missed that one. Probably good that I did.

IIRC it was back in the VB, GoV dustup, kind of a side show on the main event but tied in.

re: #196 Occasional Reader

The great thing about the Balkans: They make my people (the Irish) look sane.

Makes just about anyone else look sane.

I can forgive the Irish a lot, they did give us Guinness.

re: #197 Thanos

Well that's it for believing anything you say. Stuffing words in RS's mouth to make him appear to be a denialist makes you less than believable. Don't bother responding, I'm tapping out now, and probably won't be reading more until Monday.

I will bother anyway.

Everything in my report is documented from outside sources. You can check those sources, or you can keep riding along with your intellectually lazy mantra "all sides have shady connections which I won't bother discovering" which is equivalent to "a pox on all your houses".

Up to you. No one has to believe me. Take it up with the people/sources I quote if you disbelieve anything in them.

re: #196 Occasional Reader
Mine too. Scottish/Norwegian. My father once asked me why I was so stubborn. Told him it was him and moms fault. What do you get when you cross a Scottish clansmen with Vikings? He had to think for a minute then laughed like mad.

re: #199 JCM

There was a thread when it happened- when they attacked our embassy. Disgusting that any American would justify thugs burning our embassy, and they still do it.

re: #193 karmic_inquisitor

I didn't think of it that way. Makes sense.

I do enterprise applications - give bankers access to their computer infrastructure and that kind of stuff. These guys are all getting iPhones and want to do things with them that Apple doesn't seem to want 3rd parties to make possible. I think Apple wants to own those apps, not that they have any experience there. They want to drive blackberry out of business. Just my opinion

I think you are dead on. I've always had a problem with Apple's behavior here. People always seem confused that Apple has had very few games and applications released than Windows. I think it's because Windows has been more open to allowing people the chance then Apple.

For a laugh try this and this.

re: #202 pingjockey

What do you get when you cross a Scottish clansmen with Vikings?

Tight-fisted raiders?

re: #192 Sharmuta

And more than that- some have even said our embassy deserved to be burned.

Yup. We had a few of those.

re: #205 Occasional Reader
Hahaha! Kilts and horned helmets, a vicious combination.

re: #202 pingjockey

Mine too. Scottish/Norwegian. My father once asked me why I was so stubborn. Told him it was him and moms fault. What do you get when you cross a Scottish clansmen with Vikings? He had to think for a minute then laughed like mad.

You too, huh. I'm Scottish/Irish/Danish/German. Spend a lot of time fighting myself, then want to take over the civilized world, rape and pillage, then go back home to fight with myself.

re: #203 Sharmuta
I take these are the uber nationalists advocating this.

re: #203 Sharmuta

What about this. The kid this POS put in a coma went to my school. All I'll say about the serbs is that I hold them in the same regard as I do the palestinians.

re: #207 pingjockey

Hahaha! Kilts and horned helmets, a vicious combination.

Actually, the vikings already wore kilts.

(sipping demurely) I'm back!

re: #212 goddessoftheclassroom

(sipping demurely) I'm back!

{GotC}

How ya' doing!

re: #160 pingjockey

Pardon me, but if y'all want to fight the Balkan War again, LEAVE! we're talking iphones and other stuff. I know, we'll give all the players in Sebia and Kosovo iphones and they'll stop trying to kill each other!

"Ping" -

You might just be right - look at what some wealth and toys have done to the rest of Europe.

-S-

re: #212 goddessoftheclassroom

(sipping demurely) I'm back!

LMAO...I love the word demurely

re: #210 paradox42

They certainly haven't made a very good impression upon me. Sorry about your classmate.

re: #210 paradox42
I remember that. Nice of the diplomat to get the asshole out of the country.////

re: #213 JCM

{GotC}

How ya' doing!

Fine, thanks! I'm really looking forward to going back to school.

re: #214 Dr. Shalit
I was semi-joking. I didn't realize the depths of passion this topic has aroused. I am abysmally ignorant on the situation in the Balkans. I did read Tottens piece and thought good, sane Muslims. Not maddog islamists.

re: #216 Sharmuta

I didn't know him personally, but the fact that he went to my school makes it somewhat personal.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the bastard did the same thing in Serbia? I know its cold but I'd just say smile and say karma's a bitch huh.

re: #215 jorline

LMAO...I love the word demurely

de·mure Audio Help /dɪˈmyʊər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[di-myoor] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective, -mur·er, -mur·est.
1. characterized by shyness and modesty; reserved.
2. affectedly or coyly decorous, sober, or sedate.
[Origin: 1350–1400; ME dem(e)ur(e) well-mannered, grave < AF demuré, ptp. of demurer to demur; perh. influenced by OF mur, mëur grave, mature (< L matūrus)]

—Related forms
de·mure·ly, adverb
de·mure·ness, noun

I'm more the second definition...

re: #215 jorline

LMAO...I love the word demurely

Someone gave our friends a kitten, which proceeded to throw up on our friends livingroom carpet. Our friends named the kitten Demure.

re: #222 debutaunt

Someone gave our friends a kitten, which proceeded to throw up on our friends livingroom carpet. Our friends named the kitten Demure.

OMG. that's SO funny!

re: #218 goddessoftheclassroom

Fine, thanks! I'm really looking forward to going back to school.

How I hated that phrase growing up....

back to school
*shudder*

I was one of the perpetually bored in school. Didn't enjoy it till I went back to school in my 30's.

re: #224 JCM

How I hated that phrase growing up....

back to school
*shudder*

I was one of the perpetually bored in school. Didn't enjoy it till I went back to school in my 30's.

Well, that's because you didn't have ME as your teacher! :)

re: #222 debutaunt

Someone gave our friends a kitten, which proceeded to throw up on our friends livingroom carpet. Our friends named the kitten Demure.

LOL

re: #225 goddessoftheclassroom

Well, that's because you didn't have ME as your teacher! :)

I remember the good ones. Miss. Bennett in 2nd grade. I thought I was being sneaky reading my books behind the 2nd grade reader. Mrs. Mollinex in the 5th grade.

You'd be one of the ones to remember.

re: #227 JCM

You're sweet!

I can't stand being forgotten.

Just found a rare photo of "medaura"! [Link: www.martystuff.com...]

Ok, Getting caught up on reading and left where I started, although slightly better informed. Medaura18586 is right. The American Council for Kosovo, James Jatras and Milan Ivanović seem to be unsavory characters. I agreed with Mr. Spencer that Al Qaeda should be opposed in Kosovo however the Serbs are not the ones to do it. The Serbs have their own violent and genocidal agenda. They're not a reliable ally on anything. I would trust the Kosovars to deal with Al Qaeda influence with our help. The Serbs can't be trusted, they continue to demonstrate this.

re: #230 Killgore Trout

Ok, Getting caught up on reading and left where I started, although slightly better informed. Medaura18586 is right. The American Council for Kosovo, James Jatras and Milan Ivanović seem to be unsavory characters. I agreed with Mr. Spencer that Al Qaeda should be opposed in Kosovo however the Serbs are not the ones to do it. The Serbs have their own violent and genocidal agenda. They're not a reliable ally on anything. I would trust the Kosovars to deal with Al Qaeda influence with our help. The Serbs can't be trusted, they continue to demonstrate this.

That's kinda what I was thinking. I do appreciate Mr. Spencer acknowledging Tottens piece and not just dismissing it.

I can't ally with evil to fight evil.

re: #230 Killgore Trout

I agree with you completely.

re: #231 Mars Needs Neocons

I can't ally with evil to fight evil.

Agree, heart & soul! Good and strong, not weak and evil, Needs

re: #230 Killgore Trout

Ok, Getting caught up on reading and left where I started, although slightly better informed. Medaura18586 is right. The American Council for Kosovo, James Jatras and Milan Ivanović seem to be unsavory characters. I agreed with Mr. Spencer that Al Qaeda should be opposed in Kosovo however the Serbs are not the ones to do it. The Serbs have their own violent and genocidal agenda. They're not a reliable ally on anything. I would trust the Kosovars to deal with Al Qaeda influence with our help. The Serbs can't be trusted, they continue to demonstrate this.

Please stop treating entire ethnic groups [i.e "the Serbs", "the Kosovars"] as if they are analogous to an ideologically defined group [i.e al Qaeda]. The latter can be held to a single standard as it was created to promote a coherent viewpoint, the former are an entire nation with many differing viewpoints and agendas.

re: #233 Karridine
well in ww2 we did

re: #230 Killgore Trout

Thank you!

Al-Qaeda in particular and jihad in general are to be opposed everywhere, but the way to do it is not by fighting one fascist ideology with another. Western support, American cultural influx, and free enterprise are the antidote. The surest way to radicalize Albanian/Kosovar Muslims (and moderate Muslims everywhere) is to abandon them in the claws of those who want to annihilate them. At that point, these people would have no other choice of survivor but to turn to well-funded extremists.

OT:

Guess who wrote this:

When they walk into a voting booth, they will see two names on the ballot:

· Barack Obama
· War Hero

Trust me, this ain't Sweden. War Hero wins every time.

The Answer (I swear it's not a Rick Roll)

No cheating! :)

re: #234 stevieray

Please stop treating entire ethnic groups [i.e "the Serbs", "the Kosovars"] as if they are analogous to an ideologically defined group [i.e al Qaeda].

Well we are discussing Serbia and Kosovo so I have no choice but to refer to these groups. I'm not saying "all Serbs are genocidal maniacs." But from what I can tell the culture of Kosovo (the people and the government) look to be a reliable ally and capable of peaceful and prosperous existence. The Serbs? Not so much.

re: #237 Catttt

OT:

Guess who wrote this:

The Answer (I swear it's not a Rick Roll)

No cheating! :)

God I hope the fat bastard supports Obama. Every candidate he has endorsed has lost.

re: #238 Killgore Trout

Hmmm...

OK. As long as its used as a shorthand, and people know that, I have no complaints.

[I was off eating dinner and missed the fun up above... I'm skimming quickly through the thread to catch up.]

re: #238 Killgore Trout

Well we are discussing Serbia and Kosovo so I have no choice but to refer to these groups. I'm not saying "all Serbs are genocidal maniacs." But from what I can tell the culture of Kosovo (the people and the government) look to be a reliable ally and capable of peaceful and prosperous existence. The Serbs? Not so much.

I think there are probably elements in both that could be an ally and elements that could be dangerous. The trick is identifying who's who. I think the main people fighting this out in the blogosphere have very much created blanket descriptions for both sides.

re: #69 Oh no...Sand People!

Moving in the Blessing, Sand! Hurrah!

re: #237 Catttt

How many Democrats does it take to lose the most easily winnable election in American history? Not many. Just a few "close advisers" to Barack Obama who tell him a bunch of asinine stuff and he ends up listening to them instead of his own heart. As the party hacks in the past two elections have proven, once they get the candidate's ear, the rest of us might just as well order pizza and stay inside for the next four years.

Wow. He followed his own advice.

re: #241 Mars Needs Neocons

The problem is that the Serbian population is still supporting its genocidal former leaders in large numbers. They haven't learned from their mistakes.

re: #243 solomonpanting

Wow. He followed his own advice.

The jackass had an insight, but any bets he doesn't consider himself to be one of the "hacks"?

re: #244 Killgore Trout

The problem is that the Serbian population is still supporting its genocidal former leaders in large numbers. They haven't learned from their mistakes.

Those who don't learn history....yadda yadda yadda.

re: #247 sojerofgod

This is likely to cause trouble but I just can't help myself.

Thread is now Rogered.

Barf! I'll get it right yet!

Seig Possimus!

re: #245 Mars Needs Neocons

"Let's snatch defeat from the jaws of victory."
"We never met an election we'd like to win."
"Why get elected when you can be defeated!"

These have been the mantras of the Democratic Party.

Think it could the stellar list of candidates?

McGovern
Carter
Mondale
Dukakis
Gore
Kerry
Obama

If not for H. Ross Perot......

re: #251 solomonpanting

Think it could the stellar list of candidates?

McGovern
Carter
Mondale
Dukakis
Gore
Kerry
Obama

If not for H. Ross Perot......

I say that every day. That's why I had so much fear of the Paulbots.

rogered?

re: #219 pingjockey

I was semi-joking. I didn't realize the depths of passion this topic has aroused. I am abysmally ignorant on the situation in the Balkans. I did read Tottens piece and thought good, sane Muslims. Not maddog islamists.

From what I have seen, you could spend years studying it and still be abysmally ignorant of the situation. Gods what a mess.

To all the care. I started my new job and I am now building new commercial property just outside of Boston and having a very cool support staff is something that I’m not use to and makes my job so much more fun then working alone. Life is good!

Fun to watch the Olympic opening ceremony, if only to see the way the security works. I've never seen so many earpieces.

re: #247 sojerofgod

This is likely to cause trouble but I just can't help myself. This boob posts images on a website with free download and no terms of use that I can find... al lil' photoshop here and there, and Viola!
/s529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/captainnemotode /?action=view&current=Obamaheil.png" target="_blank"img src="http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd338/cap tainnemotode/Obamaheil.png" border="0" alt="obama"/a" target="_blank">
Seig Possimus!

Photobucket pics are all like that, as far as I can tell. My Lenny Kravitz pic has proved to be quite popular. ;D

Oh - the Lenny Kravitz pic may not be work safe. :D

re: #255 BBev

To all the care. I started my new job and I am now building new commercial property just outside of Boston and having a very cool support staff is something that I’m not use to and makes my job so much more fun then working alone. Life is good!

{bBev}!

I'm so glad it's worked out so well. How is your wife doing?

Cool, I like it, looks good on my iPhone! I almost never post, but this time I had to say, YAY!