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Elizabeth Edwards Apologizes to Daily Kos

Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 10:05:29 am PDT

Last week the administrators at Daily Kos were banning people for posting diaries about John Edwards’ extramarital affair, trying to keep a lid on the story even though they must have known it was true. Attempted leftist mind control achieving its usual level of success.

Yesterday, as if to show the world how much the Democrats are still pandering to the Nutroots, Elizabeth Edwards apologized to America ... at Daily Kos.

Daily Kos: Today.

Keep in mind as you read this: Elizabeth Edwards was a willing participant in her husband’s scheme to lie to the American public during his presidential campaign. They played the Nutroots like a bunch of angry whining fiddles.

Our family has been through a lot. Some caused by nature, some caused by human weakness, and some – most recently – caused by the desire for sensationalism and profit without any regard for the human consequences. None of these has been easy. But we have stood with one another through them all. Although John believes he should stand alone and take the consequences of his action now, when the door closes behind him, he has his family waiting for him.

John made a terrible mistake in 2006. The fact that it is a mistake that many others have made before him did not make it any easier for me to hear when he told me what he had done. But he did tell me. And we began a long and painful process in 2006, a process oddly made somewhat easier with my diagnosis in March of 2007. This was our private matter, and I frankly wanted it to be private because as painful as it was I did not want to have to play it out on a public stage as well. Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication, because of a picture falsely suggesting that John was spending time with a child it wrongly alleged he had fathered outside our marriage, our private matter could no longer be wholly private.

The pain of the long journey since 2006 was about to be renewed.

John has spoken in a long on-camera interview I hope you watch. Admitting one’s mistakes is a hard thing for anyone to do, and I am proud of the courage John showed by his honesty in the face of shame. The toll on our family of news helicopters over our house and reporters in our driveway is yet unknown. But now the truth is out, and the repair work that began in 2006 will continue. I ask that the public, who expressed concern about the harm John’s conduct has done to us, think also about the real harm that the present voyeurism does and give me and my family the privacy we need at this time.

(Hat tip: Noel Sheppard.)

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1 nigella  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:06:58am

Sorry Elizabeth not buying it!

2 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:07:09am
Keep in mind as you read this: Elizabeth Edwards was a willing participant in her husband’s scheme to lie to the American public during his presidential campaign.

Political ambition was more important to her than fidelity?

3 nigella  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:09:24am

Mandy it would seem so. She evidently was a willing accomplice to her husbands lies as he ran for POTUS.That's to say if she is telling the truth now, and I'm not so sure of that.

4 jcm  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:09:32am

Ahhhhh, that's so touching......

What do you expect from a slime bag who channels dead children and will say ANYTHING to get what he wants!

Ellizabeth, I hope and pray for a speedy and complete recovery of your illness. But you help make this bed.....

5 Bubblehead II  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:10:25am

Hillary did a better job of the "Stand by my man" routine than she is doing.

6 ROP?LOL  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:11:38am

I don't feel as sorry for her today as I did yesterday.

7 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:12:01am

Rielle Hunter's family is challenging Edwards to take a paternity test! Hum. Sounds like he is the daddy.

8 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:12:06am

I am, actually, sorry this is going on while Elizabeth is ill, but the other side of the coin is- this comes with the territory when you become a politician.

I also find it a little disgusting that the Edwards camp would trot her out to ask people to back off. How are you supposed to say "no" to a sympathetic figure like her? What level won't they stoop to?

9 troonbop  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:13:02am

"Admitting one’s mistakes is a hard thing for anyone to do, and I am proud of the courage John showed by his honesty in the face of shame. "

Actualy, it's pretty easy to admit mistakes, nowadays. It doesn't take courage to fight like a cornered rat to hang on to your lifestyle and place in the world. Real courage would be to retire from politics and STFU.

10 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:14:11am

John Edwards is a slimeball, first he used his wife's cancer for votes, now he's using her as a smoke screen. This is utterly disgusting, for both of them.

11 zerp  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:14:27am

Clinton Family Values....just what we want to see in the White House again.

12 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:15:01am

Exactly as I suspected. If it's true that EE knew of the affair in 2006 then she was an active enabler, all for the purpose of getting her and the scumbag husband into the WH. Integrity and morality be damned, they played their supporters for fools, which they are.All about power with these socialists.

13 Quilly Mammoth  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:15:28am

OMG. /retch/

14 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:15:54am

re: #8 Sharmuta

I am, actually, sorry this is going on while Elizabeth is ill, but the other side of the coin is- this comes with the territory when you become a politician.

I also find it a little disgusting that the Edwards camp would trot her out to ask people to back off. How are you supposed to say "no" to a sympathetic figure like her? What level won't they stoop to?

Sharmuta - You hit the nail on the head, girl.

15 ReneeJoy  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:16:08am
Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication,

Kettle? Meet pot.

(as opposed to the string of not very hurtful or absurd lies she and her husband told all of us during his campaign)

16 astronmr20  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:18:02am

"courage" in the face of shame?

Why is it that liberals have no fucking idea what courage is?

17 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:18:13am

re: #2 MandyManners

Political ambition was more important to her than fidelity?

you hit on it!

18 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:19:08am

Nope, call me cold hearted, no pity for Eliz Edwards. She had/has an arrangement with hubby dearest and it blew up in their faces, courtesy of the Nat'l Enq. Oh, the irony, and she has the gall to blame them for all this.She is one hard edged broad, make no mistake about it.

19 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:19:24am

I was somewhat simpatico, until this.
She seems to be blaming human nature and the Enquirer She sees Edwards as a profile in courage?
She attacked Mary Cheney for being gay while trying to act open minded.
An Enquirer spokesman was just on Fox, saying that Edwards LED and is indeed the father & They have the DNA.

20 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:19:25am
21 Bubblehead II  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:19:42am

re: #7 Nevergiveup

Maybe. On the other hand, they may be thinking they can work out an under the table deal for big $$$$ just to keep him from further embarrassing himself and his family.

/cynical, I know. But this is Love politics American Style.
//Gawd, now I know I am getting old.

22 irongrampa  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:19:59am

Paraphrase--"if you have integrity, nothing else matters. If you have no integrity, nothing else matters".

23 stuiec  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:20:04am

If any scorned wife were likely to slip a daily dose of arsenic into her husband's morning grits, I would think it would be Elizabeth Edwards. She's been badly used by her man, and she's really got nothing to lose if she's caught taking well-earned revenge.

24 astronmr20  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:20:44am

"courage" means having your wife go out an apologize for you?

"courage" means locking yourself in the bathroom like a little bitch?

25 realwest  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:20:44am

"Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication,"
Well, it turns out that they weren't lies, were they?

I am terribly sorry for Elizabeth Edwards because of her illness and her obviously poor choice of a husband, but blaming any segment of the media for
"outting" John Edwards is just plain wrong.

26 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:20:59am

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]

has an interesting poll running ...

Which is worse?
A politician who has an affair while his wife has cancer, and lies about it.

A reporter or editor who covers for the politician who has an affair while his wife has cancer.

23 to 77% in that order.

27 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:21:48am

I watched most of the Nightline interview last night. What I wish they had asked is how many affairs he's had because you know this wasn't the first.

I have much less sympathy for Elizabeth Edwards than I did. All I can say is it takes someone with a strong stomach and screwed up values (low self esteem?) to stay with a pos like Edwards.

28 Bubblehead II  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:22:23am

re: #21 Bubblehead II

Should have been:

/cynical, I know. But this is Love politics American Style.

PIMF!

29 astronmr20  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:22:25am

re: #20 Killgore Trout

OT: Pics of the day....
Dubbya watches volleyball

She's been a naughty liberal

Sneak attack from the rear

Whats with those "uniforms" the US teams wears? Ridiculous.

30 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:22:35am

I would like to apologize to the koslings too. I am sorry that you're such idiots. I'm sorry that world socialism is still a vague dream for many of you. I'm sorry the unicorns and rainbows of obambis' campaign have turned into bus maulings and thunder clouds of despair. I'm sorry you still have to live in mommys basement.

31 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:22:59am

re: #10 baxtrice

John Edwards is a slime ball, first he used his wife's cancer for votes, now he's using her as a smoke screen. This is utterly disgusting, for both of them.

He has always been a sleaze. He was a Personal Injury Lawyer that raised junk science to an art form.
Mrs Edwards is a sympathetic figure because of her disease, but she spends a lot of that capital pulling diversion ruses like this.

32 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:23:09am

re: #27 twincitiesgirl

I watched most of the Nightline interview last night. What I wish they had asked is how many affairs he's had because you know this wasn't the first.

I have much less sympathy for Elizabeth Edwards than I did. All I can say is it takes someone with a strong stomach and screwed up values (low self esteem?) to stay with a pos like Edwards.

Follow the money! ;-)

33 Dr. Manhattan  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:24:24am

My fav comment from DK:

Seriously, why is it verboten to disagree with a woman who makes a public post on an open forum? The fact is that she asserted something: this is a private matter. People are free to counter that assertion. Why does this have to be just about having a big hug? Knowing the Elizabeth knew about this in 2006 means that they both, together, made the decision to put their party in mortal danger in one of the most crucial elections of our lifetimes.

Of course, saying all this proves that I have an inability to connect with the pain of others. Whatever.

A conservative in denial, I love his/her snark at the end...very true. God those threads scare me though, the level of groupthink is unreal.

34 jcm  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:24:25am

re: #25 realwest

"Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication,"
Well, it turns out that they weren't lies, were they?

I am terribly sorry for Elizabeth Edwards because of her illness and her obviously poor choice of a husband, but blaming any segment of the media for
"outting" John Edwards is just plain wrong.

A wife who really cared would have whanged her husband up side of the head with the fry pan and said. "fooling around will fuck up any ambitions you have, and screw up what we have"

But no she covered for him.

35 willowone  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:24:31am

is reille's real name lisa druck? anyone heard that?

36 realwest  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:24:46am

re: #20 Killgore Trout
LOL! Great photos Killgore - but you'll notice that Dubya didn't actually touch anyone's butt!
That stupid he isn't!
BTW didja notice that long cut or whatever on his right arm - elbow down to forearm? Wonder how he got that?

37 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:24:56am

This tells me a couple things about Elizabeth Edwards.

1) She is placing her marital relationship second to her husbands political ambitions. This could be for a variety of reason, but being the wife of a high level politician is not exactly a hard life and the family tends to be well cared for.

2) She may very well have allowed or even blessed his fooling around, hardly in step with mainstream American values, but not unheard of.

Don't know that I like either one. I do hope that it tarnishes him enough for the people to kick him out come the next election.

38 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:25:18am

re: #29 astronmr20

Ridiculous? Fantastic! I wasn't planing on watching the Olympics but I might tune in now. Bush is having fun over there.

39 realwest  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:25:46am

re: #29 astronmr20
They were wearing uniforms?
Sigh, better go back and check those photos more carefully!

40 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:26:02am

Is there something about marrying a democrat politician that makes these women stop wanting respect for themselves? Honey- your husband just cheated on you while you were sick. What a slap in the face. And you want me to be mad at the media for this?! You might be willing to let your dear husband slap your face, but I'm not willing to let you slap mine. Your husband is a jerk- if you want to stand by your jerk, be my guest, but my sympathy meter is starting to drop for you, Honey.

41 jester6  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:26:17am

re: #20 Killgore Trout

OT: Pics of the day....
Dubbya watches volleyball

She's been a naughty liberal

Sneak attack from the rear

Thank you very much. I checked out some of the other pictures around the ones you posted. Sometimes its good to be the king.

42 MrArchieBunker  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:26:33am

The Edwards are in full spin mode trying to revive his reputation and political career. At a certain point in time, you delete the daily kos account, turn off the spin machine, quit playing out your psychodrama on the national stage, and just go away. Forever. That time is now.

43 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:26:33am

re: #31 opnion

He has always been a sleaze. He was a Personal Injury Lawyer that raised junk science to an art form.
Mrs Edwards is a sympathetic figure because of her disease, but she spends a lot of that capital pulling diversion ruses like this.

You wouldn't believe the conversation I had with my liberal friend last night -- she was a big time Edwards supporter. Apparently, some of the media is spinning "Elizabeth's cancer" story as fake, so it makes John's betrayal a minor headache for everyone. I couldn't believe my ears. My very educated friend was parroting this BS. Wow. Just to "shield" some low-life sleazebag Personal Injury Attorney with political ambitions..

44 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:26:37am

re: #35 willowone

is reille's real name lisa druck? anyone heard that?

Yeah, that seems close.

45 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:26:56am

re: #36 realwest

LOL! Great photos Killgore - but you'll notice that Dubya didn't actually touch anyone's butt!
That stupid he isn't!
BTW didja notice that long cut or whatever on his right arm - elbow down to forearm? Wonder how he got that?

Real, sup? How is that tooth?

46 Ceemack  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:27:07am
Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication...


Well, your husband has already confirmed some of what was said by the "tabloid publication" that told those "hateful and absurd lies", hasn't he? One has to wonder how many of their other allegations will turn out to be true.

But did Edwards make a "mistake"? As I see it, being tired, being lonely on the road, maybe having a little too much to drink, and falling into the sack one time with another woman--that's a "mistake". If he wakes up the next morning, say "Oh my god, what have I done?", learns his lesson and never does it again, you can call it a mistake.

But when you keep on doing it, when your campaign pays the woman big money to do something she doesn't know how to do, when you keep visiting her--that's no mistake. That's willful misconduct.

It's a shame that she has to go through this when she's so sick, but...her protestations smell more like political cover than a plea for privacy.

47 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:27:09am

While I have some empathy for Mrs. Edwards being terminal, she came of very haughty and arrogant in her previous Kos posts and was a typical disingenuous liberal hack, just like her sleazebag husband.

If the Koslings are dumb enough to fall for this latest BS, they're dumber than I thought.

Just saw the Enquirer publisher on Fox and this thing is far from over. Edwards lied through his teeth on Nightline and now is really going to feel the pain.

48 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:27:20am

1. Edwards lies and its covered up by the Left and its "Minders."
2. Clinton lies and its covered up (until a dress appeared) by the Left and it "Minders."
3. Gore lies... Every. Single. Day.

It's beginning to occur to me why the Left sees "cover-ups" in everything because they, themselves, are actively participating in them all of the time.

Sorry fellas... we air our laundry and are allowed to openly disagree with our Party. It's called 'honor.' Look it up. Fascinating concept.

49 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:27:34am

re: #36 realwest

but you'll notice that Dubya didn't actually touch anyone's butt!

yes, he's a man of great willpower.

50 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:28:30am

re: #49 Killgore Trout

yes, he's a man of great willpower.

And we all thought the President went to China for the food?

51 christheprofessor  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:28:36am

To err is dysfunctional; to forgive, codependent.

52 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:28:48am

re: #8 Sharmuta

I am, actually, sorry this is going on while Elizabeth is ill, but the other side of the coin is- this comes with the territory when you become a politician.

I also find it a little disgusting that the Edwards camp would trot her out to ask people to back off. How are you supposed to say "no" to a sympathetic figure like her? What level won't they stoop to?

"Sharm" -

This is a replay, Elizabeth was sent out before - To Answer ANN COULTER, live as a call-in to the Chris Matthews show. Nothing new here.

-S-

53 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:28:49am

re: #36 realwest

LOL! Great photos Killgore - but you'll notice that Dubya didn't actually touch anyone's butt!
That stupid he isn't!
BTW didja notice that long cut or whatever on his right arm - elbow down to forearm? Wonder how he got that?

Laura saw the previous pick when he was patting the player on the 'back'.
/

54 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:29:16am

re: #27 twincitiesgirl

I watched most of the Nightline interview last night. What I wish they had asked is how many affairs he's had because you know this wasn't the first.

Werd.

But don't worry, there's Two Americas, and what you do in Second America, stays in Second America. Except when it doesn't.

55 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:29:26am

Democrat: The Party for Strong Feminists!

..now how does one type the sound for vomiting and laughing at the same time...

56 akak  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:29:43am

lol he didn't know where to put the hands

57 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:30:02am

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Ridiculous? Fantastic! I wasn't planing on watching the Olympics but I might tune in now. Bush is having fun over there.

Is it just me, or does it look like he is about to kiss Chelsea Clinton?

58 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:30:53am

I ask that the public, who expressed concern about the harm John’s conduct has done to us, think also about the real harm that the present voyeurism does and give me and my family the privacy we need at this time.

Ah yes, the real harm according to Elizabeth?

Us. Anyone except for her horny husband for his actions. Or her for her role in the coverup.

59 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:30:53am

re: #43 baxtrice

You wouldn't believe the conversation I had with my liberal friend last night -- she was a big time Edwards supporter. Apparently, some of the media is spinning "Elizabeth's cancer" story as fake, so it makes John's betrayal a minor headache for everyone. I couldn't believe my ears. My very educated friend was parroting this BS. Wow. Just to "shield" some low-life sleazebag Personal Injury Attorney with political ambitions..

That is outrageous. The woman has cancer. She was in remission, which Edwards is saying mitigates his fault. Uh UH.
We went through this. Normal thought does not allow for the possibility of an affair. My wife was ill & we were scared.

60 bloodnok  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:30:57am

re: #27 twincitiesgirl

I watched most of the Nightline interview last night. What I wish they had asked is how many affairs he's had because you know this wasn't the first.

I have much less sympathy for Elizabeth Edwards than I did. All I can say is it takes someone with a strong stomach and screwed up values (low self esteem?) to stay with a pos like Edwards.

I didn't watch the interview last night. Did he say he wasn't at the hotel in the middle of the night? (Or, let me take a guess...he wasn't asked?)

61 Mauser  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:30:58am

re: #16 astronmr20

"courage" in the face of shame?

Why is it that liberals have no fucking idea what courage is?

Or Shame, for that matter.

62 realwest  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:31:40am

re: #45 opnion Still in and still hurtin' - don't get it pulled until the 27th (which is when the REAL PAIN begins! LOL!) unless there's a cancellation.
How's by you my friend?

63 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:32:53am

re: #47 JammieWearingFool

While I have some empathy for Mrs. Edwards being terminal, she came of very haughty and arrogant in her previous Kos posts and was a typical disingenuous liberal hack, just like her sleazebag husband.

If the Koslings are dumb enough to fall for this latest BS, they're dumber than I thought.

Just saw the Enquirer publisher on Fox and this thing is far from over. Edwards lied through his teeth on Nightline and now is really going to feel the pain.

I saw the guy too. Edwards lieing interview * his wife's sill statement to Kos just made things worse.
It looks like they have new, solid info.

64 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:33:13am

re: #60 bloodnok

I didn't watch the interview last night. Did he say he wasn't at the hotel in the middle of the night? (Or, let me take a guess...he wasn't asked?)

You must be psychic.

65 Stringart  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:33:37am
a child it wrongly alleged he had fathered

Without a paternity test, how does anyone know with certainty that he is not the father?

Mrs. Edwards, your husband has already proved to you and everyone else that he's a cheater so there's no reason to believe he's not a liar as well. As a matter of fact, you can't have cheating without lies. Him saying he's not the father shouldn't be good enough for you or for his totsy and most certainly not for the baby.

66 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:33:40am

re: #47 JammieWearingFool

I saw clips of the interview this morning...it was quite obvious he was lying about the money.

67 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:33:59am

re: #61 Mauser

To liberals, Courage always boils down to ruining someone's life, attacking their beliefs, or taking away a fundamental Right. Courage!

...or pissing on the Military... which ever...

68 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:34:33am

re: #59 opnion

That is outrageous. The woman has cancer. She was in remission, which Edwards is saying mitigates his fault. Uh UH.
We went through this. Normal thought does not allow for the possibility of an affair. My wife was ill & we were scared.

I wanted to shake the "crazy" out of my friend so bad after she said that, seriously, saying that Elizabeth's cancer is fake?! What are they feeding the liberals? LOL

Hope that you and your wife are doing well. Actually I hope she (your wife) beat cancer and is a story in REAL courage not trumped up fake courage. :)

69 realwest  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:34:36am

re: #49 Killgore Trout
Boy I'll say!
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

70 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:34:37am

This is only the beginning of the apologies to their nutroot base. Wait til it is revealed that he is indeed the Daddy and all the payola comes home to roost. Azzhole could have simply manned up, admitted the entire sordid episode, but no, he's an ambulance chaser to the core.

71 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:35:16am

re: #62 realwest

Still in and still hurtin' - don't get it pulled until the 27th (which is when the REAL PAIN begins! LOL!) unless there's a cancellation.
How's by you my friend?

Holy Shit! You have to be kidding. Man Oh man I am sorry.
Me, I'm doing fine . Getting our daughter ready to go back to college.
I want to go back to college!

72 Abu Bin Squid  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:35:23am

caused by the desire for sensationalism and profit without any regard for the human consequences.

Blame the media (which shielded him for as long as they could) not your precious husband's inability/unwillingness to keep it zipped.

This from a pair of trial lawyers, no less. *spit*

73 FamHistoryGuy  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:35:25am

re: #23 stuiec

Brings this to mind.

Wonder if he has a food taster.

74 realwest  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:35:57am

Re: my stupid #69 - move back one to #124 in the photo gallery!

75 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:36:53am

re: #65 Stringart

Without a paternity test, how does anyone know with certainty that he is not the father?

Mrs. Edwards, your husband has already proved to you and everyone else that he's a cheater so there's no reason to believe he's not a liar as well. As a matter of fact, you can't have cheating without lies. Him saying he's not the father shouldn't be good enough for you or for his totsy and most certainly not for the baby.

Ok, lets look at this. See, I am not the father, but hey baby meet me at a hotel & bring the other guy's baby. Yeah, thats the ticket!

76 Jonn Lilyea  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:37:05am

So it's our fault that her husband's affair is now public? If only we didn't expect our leaders, or would-be leaders, to be decent people who can keep their promises to a single person (because it kinda reflects on what they think of people, in general). If only the media would stop reporting their misconduct. Well...except for Republicans' misconduct, of course. Bite me, Liz.

So will Koz start banning every knucklehead who says Bush is a coke head? There'd be no one left over there.

77 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:37:22am

Does this mean I'll have to take my "Obama/Edwards '08" bumper stickers down from CafePress?

That's a joke... but this may actually be the best time to make some my Democrat neighborhood... deviousesssesss jokesssesss...

78 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:38:18am

re: #70 vagabond trader

This is only the beginning of the apologies to their nutroot base. Wait til it is revealed that he is indeed the Daddy and all the payola comes home to roost. Azzhole could have simply manned up, admitted the entire sordid episode, but no, he's an ambulance chaser to the core.

Power chaser. It seems political power is the only thing that matters to him, and he will protect it at all costs. (Well, as long as he gets to have plenty of sex)

79 realwest  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:38:56am

re: #71 opnion Hell, I'd like to go back in time to when I was in law school!
Ah well, at least I have the memor.......uh, hold on a sec............senior moment!.....memories - there, got 'em again! LOL!

80 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:39:00am

re: #76 Jonn Lilyea

So it's our fault that her husband's affair is now public? If only we didn't expect our leaders, or would-be leaders, to be decent people who can keep their promises to a single person (because it kinda reflects on what they think of people, in general). If only the media would stop reporting their misconduct. Well...except for Republicans' misconduct, of course. Bite me, Liz.

So will Koz start banning every knucklehead who says Bush is a coke head? There'd be no one left over there.

What about the Bu$h dollar bills with his face on it?

Barack's face on a dollar = Racism
Bush's face on a dollar = Hilarious!

81 baxtrice  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:39:04am

re: #76 Jonn Lilyea

So it's our fault that her husband's affair is now public? If only we didn't expect our leaders, or would-be leaders, to be decent people who can keep their promises to a single person (because it kinda reflects on what they think of people, in general). If only the media would stop reporting their misconduct. Well...except for Republicans' misconduct, of course. Bite me, Liz.

So will Koz start banning every knucklehead who says Bush is a coke head? There'd be no one left over there.

There goes my coffee all over my monitor... :)

82 OregonMuse  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:39:05am

Edwards has always struck me as a big phony, even by Washington DC standards. He should retire from public life and go back to chasing ambulances.

83 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:39:32am

re: #49 Killgore Trout

yes, he's a man of great willpower.

I love America!

84 Tarkus289  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:39:38am

I don't believe his wife knew about this in 2006, I think that is just a way to make it appear less damaging, sort of like "this is already been resolved" at home kind of thing.

85 Edouard  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:39:44am

He lied to America about this thing, over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Therefore, she has no basis to claim "courage" for him. None.

He only admitted it when he was forced to. That takes no courage.

It's a crying shame that she's allowing herself to be used to scrounge about for the shreds of what's left of his career.

86 twincitiesgirl  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:39:51am

re: #60 bloodnok

I think he admitted to that. He was very narrow in the answers he gave as to any specifics of the affair. He said that was only for "his family" to know.

87 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:40:23am

re: #52 Dr. Shalit

"Sharm" -

This is a replay, Elizabeth was sent out before - To Answer ANN COULTER, live as a call-in to the Chris Matthews show. Nothing new here.

-S-

I can understand a wife wanting to defend her husband- if said husband is worthy of such. But I'm not sure what is more disturbing- a man using his sick wife to call off the media dogs, or the wife for willingly accepting her role as a tool to get the media off her husband because she's a sympathetic figure.

88 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:41:04am

Elizabeth,

Did you know John was going to spend 5 hours with Lisa in her hotel room?

89 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:41:26am

re: #79 realwest


Hell, I'd like to go back in time to when I was in law school!
Ah well, at least I have the memor.......uh, hold on a sec............senior moment!.....memories - there, got 'em again! LOL!


Word! As I get older I find that I am losing two things, first is my memory , but I forgot the other. I know, old joke.

90 realwest  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:41:33am

re: #83 Racer X
Hey my friend - go back to photo #124 if you want to see willpower! LOL!

91 reno911  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:41:47am

The weird thing is that I always thought John Edwards was gay. As it turns out, he was just a scumbag.

/apologies to scumbags

92 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:42:08am

..this courage thing is really bugging me... it's like I'm not getting it... so later tonight I will "Courageously" sneak out of the house (while my wife has, say, the flu or something) and go F some Lady on my payroll. Maybe then I will know what Courage truly is. Thanks you, John, for leading us to the High Road.

93 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:42:36am

If I hear one more libral blather on about how they don't care what a pol does in the bedroom, it's the denial that outrages them. No idiots, what they do illicitly in the bedroom leads to the denials, get it? It's called conciousness of guilt, which means they know full well that what they did was immoral. They are unworthy of America's trust.

94 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:43:06am

re: #90 realwest

Hey my friend - go back to photo #124 if you want to see willpower! LOL!

*proud sigh*

Go USA!

95 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:43:18am

re: #93 vagabond trader

If I hear one more libral blather on about how they don't care what a pol does in the bedroom, it's the denial that outrages them. No idiots, what they do illicitly in the bedroom leads to the denials, get it? It's called conciousness of guilt, which means they know full well that what they did was immoral. They are unworthy of America's trust.

...Yeah... and Yet Larry Craig was totally fair game... go figure.

96 realwest  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:44:07am

re: #93 vagabond trader
" They are unworthy of America's anyone's trust."
There, fixed that for ya!

97 Bloodnok  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:44:12am

re: #86 twincitiesgirl

I think he admitted to that. He was very narrow in the answers he gave as to any specifics of the affair. He said that was only for "his family" to know.

"Only his hairdresser family knows for sure..."

/couldn't resist the hair reference

98 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:45:03am

re: #95 Noam Chumpski

For a lousy footsie tap for crying out loud!

99 MrArchieBunker  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:45:29am

re: #92 Noam Chumpski

I agree 100%, this is a perversion of the concept of courage. You want to see courage my friends....click on this [Link: www.history.army.mil...]

100 cutestguy[deleted]  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:45:47am
101 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:45:50am

re: #92 Noam Chumpski

..this courage thing is really bugging me... it's like I'm not getting it... so later tonight I will "Courageously" sneak out of the house (while my wife has, say, the flu or something) and go F some Lady on my payroll. Maybe then I will know what Courage truly is. Thanks you, John, for leading us to the High Road.

Thats good. Can you imagine coming home drunk, smelling like a brothel & being confronted by your wife? "Why yes Dear, I indeed was out whoring. Now, that took courage for me, so STFU & I want panckes in the morning!
Could you pull that off?

102 willowone  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:46:27am

re: #93 vagabond trader

ya know i have decided i DO expect our leaders to be better than average "John", so when they pretend they are superior and "caught" out well, that's that.

103 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:46:48am

I saw some lawyer from The National Enquirer on Fox today. He says he is 100% positive the kid is Edwards'. They supposedly have more damaging evidence, but they are waiting to release it "on their time frame".

Sounds like they are content to let Edwards lie some more so they can make him look even more stupid.

The kid is his.

104 engrpat  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:47:25am

If as she says the affair ended in 2006 what was Johnnie boy doing at the hotel two weeks ago with his "friend?" The stories coming from both Edward's just don't add up nor do they pass the smell test. Both are lying. I did have sympathy for Mrs. Edward with her cancer and being married to him but now...no way, she knew, played along and was willing to cover it up all the while playing supporters like a drum. Wonder how much money they made off the campaign?

105 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:47:30am

re: #93 vagabond trader

They are unworthy of America's trust.

This may sound cynical, but that is my opinion of all politicians. I just expect the Republicans to be crooked in my favor. Damn you Duke Cunningham.

106 opnion  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:48:26am

re: #102 willowone

ya know i have decided i DO expect our leaders to be better than average "John", so when they pretend they are superior and "caught" out well, that's that.

Thats the thing, the Edwards played morally superior.
This poor family with a sick wife. They faithfuly supported each other and slimed Republicans.

107 slokat  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:49:10am

re: #35 willowone

is reille's real name lisa druck? anyone heard that?

Yes and she was the inspiration for a novel Story of My Life according to this link.

108 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:49:15am

re: #104 engrpat

Wonder how much money they made off the campaign?


Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!

109 willowone  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:50:17am

re: #106 opnion
yes and he had plenty top say abouyt lack of morality when BClinton was caught, i think thats why i just don't feel sympathy for him, although i do for his wife, complicate or not and the children.
also he put his own party at risk, (not that i mind) and didnt he endorse Obama? and what about his delegates? that all matters to the american public

110 willowone  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:50:37am

re: #107 slokat wow thanks!@

111 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:51:16am

Its no coincidence that Edwards did a partial admission ON A FRIDAY, THE OPENING DAY OF THE OLYMPICS.

112 Bubblehead II  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:51:34am

re: #95 Noam Chumpski

Well, it WAS a public restroom in an airport and an undercover cop.

thank G*d he will be gone this cycle.

113 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:51:38am

Yesterday I mentioned that John and Elizabeth were scheduled to speak at Salem State College next month and wondered out loud if it would go on as planned.

We'll see if this stays a sure thing after the new Enquirer info comes out and is backed up by the MSM.


Affair won't affect Edwardses' visit

SALEM — Salem State College still plans to host John and Elizabeth Edwards as speakers next month, but they'll probably have more than politics to talk about. The former Democratic presidential candidate admitted in a TV interview last night that he had an extramarital affair while his wife was battling cancer.

"The Salem State College Series ... expects to honor the contract that will bring John and Elizabeth Edwards to our campus on Sept. 23," the college said in a statement.

Spokesman Jim Glynn said the college issued the statement after receiving media calls asking whether it plans to cancel the Edwardses' appearance.

"We intend to touch base with our major sponsors over the weekend regarding these recent developments, and if there are any changes, we will announce them at the beginning of the week," the statement said.

The campus is right up the street from me and the banner was still up on my way to the store earlier.

114 slokat  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:52:18am

re: #104 engrpat

Clearly she admitted to lying then, so we can trust her now! ;)

/

115 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:52:51am

re: #98 vagabond trader

For a lousy footsie tap for crying out loud!

What's funnier is that Republicans didn't reflexively defend Craig. That's where integrity and rational thought come into play. Democrats are not allowed to criticize their own. Not permited.

Edwards could eat babies and they would applaud him for his efforts at population control and then let him do ads for Pro-Choice policy.

116 looking closely  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:52:53am

Why the hell is SHE apologizing?
This is really taking the "stand by your man" thing to ridiculous extremes.
Now she's destroying her OWN credibility as well.

117 Rides A Pale Horse  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:53:03am

Ok…..maybe it didn’t quite go this way but one has to wonder………………

“Oh yes John.” “Since I’m sick and don’t want you screwing me anymore you can go out and diddle anyone you like.” “I’m sure no one will find out.” “I won’t tell.” “We can use my disease to get the sympathy vote to get you elected and I can spend my last days with you and your paramours in the Whitehouse.” “My dying while you’re in office assures you of a second term.” “I just want to be First Lady before I die.”

“Just be careful.” “You know the National Enquirer would LOVE to catch us in this deception.”

Didn’t quite work out that way did it Liz? Sorry, no sympathy here for either of them.

“Oh the tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive”

118 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:53:24am

John Edwards is a scumbag.

119 Mosse  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:54:03am

Charles, I hadn't even thought about the fact that she knowingly colluded with him as he ran for POTUS... cheez. When did the Dems get so devious? And Marxist? Just read the article on Daughtry, the CEO of the Democratic Convention. Not only is she a Marxist-based Black theology adherent, why does the Dem. convention NEED a CEO? It's an event -- not a corporate entity... What a world...

120 Westward Ho  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:54:04am

I am sure that Edwards fathered the kid, the woman is a political groupie and the kid is her trophy, there is no way she would father the lackeys child when she could have the real thing.

121 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:54:22am

re: #104 engrpat

Wonder how much money the girlfriend made off the campaign. And continues to make. That's the really smelly area, all the musical IDs, homes, and money shuffling. Hope some fed DA with a vendetta looks into this.Muwhahahahahahahaha!

122 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:54:46am

re: #115 Noam Chumpski

What's funnier is that Republicans didn't reflexively defend Craig. That's where integrity and rational thought come into play. Democrats are not allowed to criticize their own. Not permited.

Edwards could eat babies and they would applaud him for his efforts at population control and then let him do ads for Pro-Choice policy.

So Pro-Choice for him is sort of a Baby Offset for those he accidentally produces?

123 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:55:11am

re: #101 opnion

Thats good. Can you imagine coming home drunk, smelling like a brothel & being confronted by your wife? "Why yes Dear, I indeed was out whoring. Now, that took courage for me, so STFU & I want panckes in the morning!
Could you pull that off?

Jeez - How do you think I get her to make me breakfast at all. It takes Courage® do be that big of an a$$. Courage. And I will have to have the Courage® to do it every, single, day. For my country!

Yes, for my country!

124 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:55:17am

According to Elizabeth, the only sin committed here is by the Enquirer et al., w/ their greed for (gasp!) profit, their voyeurism, their lies. (What lies?)

Edwards affair is chalked up to diffuse "human weakness," not even to specific individual weakness. Again it was "a mistake many others have made."
His handling of his little "mistake" was "honest" (!) and "courageous" (!)

At least the Kos Kids, unlike Elizabeth, are ready to blame him for doing something bad. He has, after all, committed the ONE & ONLY sin the left recognizes: he has shown himself ready and willing to hurt the party.

125 pegcity  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:55:53am

re: #8 Sharmuta

they figure if it works for Michelle Obama why not give it a go for Silk Pony

126 tripletdad  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:56:09am

Only took 2 years to fess up, and only then because there was video and pictures of him ducking out of a hotel at 2:45am. Yeah, that's admirable, Elizabeth. It's not like you actually had a guilty conscience lying to America all that time.

127 willowone  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:56:36am

re: #121 vagabond trader didnt they make her a Production assistance to help Give her money?

128 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:56:56am

re: #111 Racer X

Its no coincidence that Edwards did a partial admission ON A FRIDAY, THE OPENING DAY OF THE OLYMPICS.

Courage!

129 Jonn Lilyea  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:57:01am

re: #81 baxtrice

Sorry, send a bill to my people.

130 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:57:16am

re: #121 vagabond trader

Wonder how much money the girlfriend made off the campaign. And continues to make. That's the really smelly area, all the musical IDs, homes, and money shuffling. Hope some fed DA with a vendetta looks into this.Muwhahahahahahahaha!

About $100,000.00 over four months.

131 MrArchieBunker  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:57:19am

"I am proud of the courage John showed by his honesty in the face of shame.".... Sorry Mrs Edwards, but THIS is what I call courage.."While the SEALs vigilantly watched for enemy activity, an insurgent threw a hand grenade from an unseen location, which bounced off Petty Officer Monsoor’s chest and landed in front of him. Although only he could have escaped the blast, Petty Officer Monsoor chose instead to protect his teammates. Instantly and without regard for his own safety, he threw himself onto the grenade to absorb the force of the explosion with his body, saving the lives of his two teammates. "

132 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:57:32am

re: #113 loppyd

Oh brutha, they'll get a standing ovation. Shameless.

133 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:58:55am

re: #122 CyanSnowHawk

Hadn't thought of it that way... are you secretly a Democrat or are you just better at getting into their heads than I am? ;)

134 willowone  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:59:29am

re: #130 MandyManners
campign funds at work. i wonder how many dems are pissed?

135 looking closely  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 10:59:50am
Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication, because of a picture falsely suggesting that John was spending time with a child it wrongly alleged he had fathered outside our marriage, our private matter could no longer be wholly private.


/sound of world's tiniest fiddle:

a. John Edwards just admitted he lied.
b. Elizabeth Edwards just admitted SHE lied.

Now she's claiming the Enquirer has lied? So far, in terms of track record on this story, it seems that the National Enquirer is the only one to get things RIGHT.

Given how her husband made his living (eg suing doctors out of existence) she's got a lot of nerve railing about the desire for "sensationalism and profit without regard for the human consequences".

But now the truth is out,


Somehow, I don't think so.

136 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:00:03am

re: #130 MandyManners

Mandy,my gut says it goes even further than that,as in when the old mare gives up the ghost, you'll be the new Mrs. Edwards.Crude, but I'd bet on it.

138 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:00:56am

The Enquirer pwned the MSM.

How does that feel NYT, WaPo, CNN?

139 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:01:28am

re: #132 vagabond trader

Oh brutha, they'll get a standing ovation. Shameless.

I'll like to make a shirt that reads, "I Cheat Because I am Courageous®" or something and sit upfront.

140 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:01:33am

re: #132 vagabond trader

Oh brutha, they'll get a standing ovation. Shameless.

Bubba spoke there a few years back. I wrote a letter to the president of the college to let her know that I was appalled that they would spend such an obscene amount of money to have the only sitting U.S. President to be impeached give a speech while the school was in fiscal crisis.

Shockingly, she did not reply.

141 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:02:15am

re: #139 Noam Chumpski

I'll like to make a shirt that reads, "I Cheat Because I am Courageous®" or something and sit upfront.

How about: 99% HONEST AND PROUD!

142 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:03:01am

re: #141 loppyd

How about: 99% HONEST AND PROUD!

Home run, Friend. I'll get the press running.

143 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:03:13am

re: #127 willowone

Yes, she was on the campaign payroll and did some video of her paramour on the road. That $$$ was in addition to the recent support/hush money.

144 Jonn Lilyea  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:03:36am

re: #80 Noam Chumpski

Funny you should mention that. The folks protesting against the MoveOn protesters had $8 bills with Al Gore's face on them (to represent how much Al Gore wants us to pay for a gallon of gas) and Move On went berserk shouting names (I don't know how a white guy passing out bills with another white guy's face on them is racist...that's just the first word out of their mouths these days, I suppose) and trying to grab signs. Life on the Left must be tough.

145 willowone  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:04:08am

re: #143 vagabond trader
wonder if they will be looking into where those funds came from.

146 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:04:20am

re: #25 realwest

"Because of a recent string of hurtful and absurd lies in a tabloid publication,"
Well, it turns out that they weren't lies, were they?

I am terribly sorry for Elizabeth Edwards because of her illness and her obviously poor choice of a husband, but blaming any segment of the media for
"outting" John Edwards is just plain wrong.

what about the hurtful lies edwards told?
maybe the cemo is nothing more than grape kool-aid..

147 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:04:45am

re: #133 Noam Chumpski

Hadn't thought of it that way... are you secretly a Democrat or are you just better at getting into their heads than I am? ;)

Just playing with their talking points and applying it to the situation.
Careful with those Dem accusations. While I'm not a complete platform Republican, I am quite proud that my first ever Presidential vote was for Reagan in '84.

148 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:04:51am

re: #142 Noam Chumpski

Home run, Friend. I'll get the press running.

As far as I know I have no plans that day....I'll head over with my camera.

149 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:05:14am

re: #66 loppyd

I saw clips of the interview this morning...it was quite obvious he was lying about the money.

The Enquirer guy said Edwards 'engineered' payments, which seems pretty obvious.

If he used campaign money, and knowing what a lowlife he is, I'm assuming he did, well that's illegal.

And to think, he was being floated as Obama's attorney general.

150 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:05:32am

re: #145 willowone

HOPE!

151 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:05:49am

re: #144 Jonn Lilyea

Funny you should mention that. The folks protesting against the MoveOn protesters had $8 bills with Al Gore's face on them (to represent how much Al Gore wants us to pay for a gallon of gas) and Move On went berserk shouting names (I don't know how a white guy passing out bills with another white guy's face on them is racist...that's just the first word out of their mouths these days, I suppose) and trying to grab signs. Life on the Left must be tough.

Like the Prophet, you are not allowed to use the visage of the "Green One" on any printed materials.

"Sign grabbing" is an Art. Much like yelling "Freedom of Speech" in order to drown out the voice of an invited speaker. It takes Courage®.

152 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:06:06am

re: #149 JammieWearingFool

The Enquirer guy said Edwards 'engineered' payments, which seems pretty obvious.

If he used campaign money, and knowing what a lowlife he is, I'm assuming he did, well that's illegal.

And to think, he was being floated as Obama's attorney general.

Yeah, kinda like in the Elliot Spitzer mold!

153 Westward Ho  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:06:12am

We should start a betting pool on the paternity of the kid

154 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:06:17am

re: #137 Bloodnok

But, I think every single candidate for president, Republican and Democratic have lives, personal lives, that indicate something about what kind of human being they are. And I think it is a fair evaluation for America to engage in to look at what kind of human beings each of us are, and what kind of president we'd make.

John Edwards- 60 Minutes 3/24/07

Oh, but he's not running for POTUS anymore. I guess it doesn't apply to potential Veeps.

/feh


That's the problem with Mr. Edwards and wife. They constantly paraded themselves before the American people as a devoted, loving couple.

155 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:06:35am

re: #141 loppyd

How about: 99% HONEST AND PROUD!

good one loppyd!

156 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:06:55am

re: #153 Westward Ho

We should start a betting pool on the paternity of the kid

Who are you gonna get to take the other side of that bet?

157 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:07:04am

re: #149 JammieWearingFool

The Enquirer guy said Edwards 'engineered' payments, which seems pretty obvious.

If he used campaign money, and knowing what a lowlife he is, I'm assuming he did, well that's illegal.

And to think, he was being floated as Obama's attorney general.

Wouldn't want to tap into any of those 33 & 1/3 med mal settlement paydays now, would he?

Deval Patrick is probably enjoying this.

158 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:07:12am

re: #147 CyanSnowHawk

Just playing with their talking points and applying it to the situation.
Careful with those Dem accusations. While I'm not a complete platform Republican, I am quite proud that my first ever Presidential vote was for Reagan in '84.

Ha! I joke, I joke... Doesn't it feel like someone is calling you a "Pervert" when they ask if you're a Dem? Funny how that works.

159 rawmuse  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:07:30am

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Those are hand chosen pics, not flattering at all. Except for Kerri, who is a genooowine hottie.

160 Rides A Pale Horse  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:07:57am

Re: a previous Edwards press release:

“I am and have been willing to take any test necessary to establish the fact that I am not the father of any baby………”

Wonder what that means?

Liz?

161 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:08:37am

re: #147 CyanSnowHawk

Just playing with their talking points and applying it to the situation.
Careful with those Dem accusations. While I'm not a complete platform Republican, I am quite proud that my first ever Presidential vote was for Reagan in '84.

Mine was George H.W. BUsh 1988!

162 willowone  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:08:52am

re: #150 vagabond trader

for real Ch-ch-change in their leadership : }

163 looking closely  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:08:59am

re: #153 Westward Ho

We should start a betting pool on the paternity of the kid

If Edwards is really so courageous and apologetic, wanting to do the "right thing" he should have no problem submitting himself to a paternity test.

That will let EVERYONE know who's being "99% truthful" and who isn't.

164 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:09:08am

re: #158 Noam Chumpski

Ha! I joke, I joke... Doesn't it feel like someone is calling you a "Pervert" when they ask if you're a Dem? Funny how that works.

My keyboard doesn't type mock offense very well. I should have thrown in a /.

165 MrArchieBunker  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:09:46am

One really has to wonder about these Daily Kos types. Reading the comments on that thread was a real laugh riot. They get played by a smarmy sleazeoid, and then hope he comes back as Atty. General. And to think these people vote!

166 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:09:50am

re: #153 Westward Ho

We should start a betting pool on the paternity of the kid

mmmm.. vegas bookies pls note:
the dude was/is paying 15k/ month claiming the kid is somebody else.
John visits mom and child at 3am

good luck getting good odds on this one..
2-1 Johnny is a new daddy

167 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:09:53am

re: #157 loppyd

Wouldn't want to tap into any of those 33 & 1/3 med mal settlement paydays now, would he?

Deval Patrick is probably enjoying this.

When you need to power up that 28,000 square foot mansion of his, there isn't too much disposable income left at Chez Silky.

Especially with the high energy costs during the Bush Depression.

168 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:09:53am

re: #131 MrArchieBunker

"I am proud of the courage John showed by his honesty in the face of shame.".... Sorry Mrs Edwards, but THIS is what I call courage.."While the SEALs vigilantly watched for enemy activity, an insurgent threw a hand grenade from an unseen location, which bounced off Petty Officer Monsoor’s chest and landed in front of him. Although only he could have escaped the blast, Petty Officer Monsoor chose instead to protect his teammates. Instantly and without regard for his own safety, he threw himself onto the grenade to absorb the force of the explosion with his body, saving the lives of his two teammates. "

169 Clemente  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:10:05am

One distilled observation I take away from this, is that for credibility, neither Edwards now compares favorably to The National Enquirer.

170 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:10:34am

re: #161 loppyd
Kids! First vote RWR 1980. Fuck Jimmah Cartur.

171 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:11:03am

re: #169 Clemente

One distilled observation I take away from this, is that for credibility, neither Edwards now compares favorably to The National Enquirer.

The NYT and the rest of the MSM don't compare favorably to the National Enquirer!

172 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:11:15am

re: #164 CyanSnowHawk

My keyboard doesn't type mock offense very well. I should have thrown in a /.

I think I got it, but just wanted to apologize in case. You just never know. :)

173 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:11:40am

re: #165 MrArchieBunker

One really has to wonder about these Daily Kos types. Reading the comments on that thread was a real laugh riot. They get played by a smarmy sleazeoid, and then hope he comes back as Atty. General. And to think these people vote!

Nothing funnier than heartbroken moonbats.

I just can't pity stupidity. It's much too funny.

174 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:11:44am

re: #163 looking closely

If Edwards is really so courageous and apologetic, wanting to do the "right thing" he should have no problem submitting himself to a paternity test.

That will let EVERYONE know who's being "99% truthful" and who isn't.

If he is so courageous and wants to do the right thing, he should switch parties and back the Republican platform.

Anything less is evidence of his complete unsuitability for office.

/I'm really dreaming now, ain't I?

175 anotherindyfilmguy  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:11:49am

re: #50 Nevergiveup

It's good to be king...

176 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:12:23am

re: #170 pingjockey

It would have felt good to vote against Carter. Back then you got to pull that big lever and it made that sound, like, "F You Carter" as the curtain opened up. I miss those machines.

177 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:13:00am

re: #175 anotherindyfilmguy

It's good to be king...

Damn right!

178 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:13:11am

re: #158 Noam Chumpski

Doesn't it feel like someone is calling you a "Pervert" when they ask if you're a Dem?


LOL!

179 loflyer  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:13:39am

Many good American leaders refuse to come forward because of "skeletons in the closet". We find ourselves with few true leaders, and most of them are pussies. John McCain for all his faults is not. I have watched the tape of McCain jumping out of his cockpit seconds before the A-4 was engulfed in flame in the Forestal disaster, In the same tape, I saw one brave CPO charging into the fire with a fire extinguisher only to be obliterated by a five hundred pounder.
I propose the 10 year rule for media investigation of personal history. If the person hasn't screwed up in ten years, then let the past remain anonymous.

180 bloodnok  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:13:44am

re: #154 wolfie

That's the problem with Mr. Edwards and wife. They constantly paraded themselves before the American people as a devoted, loving couple.

Exactly. The left likes to feels justified in condemning Republicans that commit acts for which they'd forgive a Dem because they believe the R's flaunt a supposed "moral high horse". Looks like John qualifies.

181 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:14:26am

re: #179 loflyer

Many good American leaders refuse to come forward because of "skeletons in the closet". We find ourselves with few true leaders, and most of them are pussies. John McCain for all his faults is not. I have watched the tape of McCain jumping out of his cockpit seconds before the A-4 was engulfed in flame in the Forestal disaster, In the same tape, I saw one brave CPO charging into the fire with a fire extinguisher only to be obliterated by a five hundred pounder.
I propose the 10 year rule for media investigation of personal history. If the person hasn't screwed up in ten years, then let the past remain anonymous.

That would give BHO a walk.

182 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:14:28am

Since the Enquirer now has more credibility than 99% of the media, maybe they can replace the New York Times or some other rag up in the news links.

183 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:15:13am

re: #176 Noam Chumpski

lol, we still have old clunkers in our bitter small town. Cannot wait to hear that Ka-Ching when I toss the Obama down.

184 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:15:23am

re: #3 nigella

She reminds me so much of our ex-governor, Elliot Spitzer's pathetic door mat wife.

How do bright, well-educated women do such stupid things?

And she is allowing herself to be used while she is fighting terminal Ca of the breast? So tragic.

That he and his mistress could be waiting for the mother of his children, 2 of whom she bore after their 16 year old son was killed in an automobile accident, because Silky Pony wanted a replacement son, to expire? I just hope Elizabeth Edwards divorces the bastard, but bet she won"t.

I have a feeling that Mrs. Edwards might have developed Ca of the breast as a result of hormonal changes that were age related, and the surge of hormones from the pregnancies..2, as the first was a girl, and the second was a boy. They need their mother...and the oldest daughter must feel like she was an afterthought...not sure if she was the oldest.

When they found out she was terminal, he should have immediately ceased campaigning, and devoted himself to her and their kids. Instead, they carried on.

I hope that there will be a new treatment for Elizabeth Edwards, and that she will be there for her chilren.

Edwards is a POS.

185 Iron Fist  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:16:05am

re: #181 MandyManners


That's 'cause BHO hasn't done anything in the last 10 years. Except sit in his seat at Trinity while the Rev. Wright God damn's America.

186 Westward Ho  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:16:32am

The birth certificate did not name the father, which means that she either did not know who the father was ( could have been the lackey's ) or that she knew that it was Edwards and kept quiet ( made some deal with him ).

We want your DNA John, out with it.

187 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:16:35am

re: #181 MandyManners

That would give BHO a walk.

Yeah, because BHO is only, like, ten in the first place... ha!

188 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:17:18am

re: #185 Iron Fist

That's 'cause BHO hasn't done anything in the last 10 years. Except sit in his seat at Trinity while the Rev. Wright God damn's America.

He wasn't with ACORN? Didn't know Dohrn and Ayers?

189 Westward Ho  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:17:35am

re: #156 Nevergiveup


I read something about another person in the campaign team banging her.

190 loflyer  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:17:38am

re: #181 MandyManners

That would give BHO a walk.

No it wouldn't. His church and personal affiliations have remained constant, along with his dismal record of getting nothing done...

191 bloodnok  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:17:50am

re: #157 loppyd

Wouldn't want to tap into any of those 33 & 1/3 med mal settlement paydays now, would he?

Deval Patrick is probably enjoying this.

Deval as possible AG? I never thought I'd say this, but I'd rather have him as our governor.

192 looking closely  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:17:51am

re: #160 Rides A Pale Horse

Re: a previous Edwards press release:

“I am and have been willing to take any test necessary to establish the fact that I am not the father of any baby………”

Wonder what that means?

Liz?


Edwards, has allegedly been funnelling $15,000 a month via an acquaintance to the woman who is (according to him) NOT the mother of his child, who, for reasons inexplicable, he recently met with in the middle of the night at a hotel.

He's already paid her $114,000 in campaign money to produce a series of videos for his campaign, plus, supposedly, she is being housed at the home of a close friend even now.

What it likely means is that Edwards has an arrangement with Mommy Lisa Druck (aka "Rielle Hunter"). He will pay her $15k per month (plus who knows what else he gave her that the Enquirer doesn't know about), and she will keep her trap shut and not demand paternity testing. No father listed on the baby's birth certificate means that Edwards isn't legally liable for the kid until (unless) paternity testing is done, and he retains (implausible) deniability.

Sort of a win-win, until Edwards one day decides he wants to stop payments.

193 CyanSnowHawk  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:18:06am

Later all. Saturday, just before Noon, and errands to run.

194 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:18:14am

re: #183 vagabond trader

Oh, wow. That's great. The last time I used one was in my own bitter, small town where we cling to religion and guns because the world is so scary.

I wish the Diebold machines would at least "fake" the sound. You know?

195 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:18:41am

re: #189 Westward Ho

I read something about another person in the campaign team banging her.

Yup, I read that also. But, it just doesn't ring true to me.

196 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:18:51am

Republicans get trashed when they get caught with their pants down because they are not expected to lie and cheat.

Democrats get a pass when they get caught because they are expected to lie and cheat.

197 loflyer  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:19:48am

re: #196 Racer X

Republicans get trashed when they get caught with their pants down because they are not expected to lie and cheat.

Democrats get a pass when they get caught because they are expected to lie and cheat.

/JFK in action!

198 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:19:54am

re: #187 Noam Chumpski

Yeah, because BHO is only, like, ten in the first place... ha!

*snicker*

199 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:19:58am

re: #192 looking closely

My understanding as well is that he hired her to do web videos even though she had never done them nor had any experience in the creative or video industry. That's strange... lol... unless...

200 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:20:37am

re: #170 pingjockey

Kids! First vote RWR 1980. Fuck Jimmah Cartur.

I wish I had been old enough to cast that vote, but I did help my dad campaign for him in '80 at the ripe old age of 10. I've been a political junkie/geek ever since. LOL

201 loflyer  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:21:01am

re: #199 Noam Chumpski

My understanding as well is that he hired her to do web videos even though she had never done them nor had any experience in the creative or video industry. That's strange... lol... unless...

Are you alluding to the fact that she was hired on as Edwards mistress by his campaign?

202 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:21:17am

re: #199 Noam Chumpski

My understanding as well is that he hired her to do web videos even though she had never done them nor had any experience in the creative or video industry. That's strange... lol... unless...

Yup and Monica Lewinsky was a real fast typist also!

203 Rides A Pale Horse  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:21:38am

re: #192 looking closely

Um......that wasn't the point. I'm well aware of the payments.
Look a little more closely at my post........lol!

204 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:21:38am

re: #194 Noam Chumpski

That's the least they could have done. Our voting station is at the dog pound.

205 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:21:40am

re: #190 loflyer

No it wouldn't. His church and personal affiliations have remained constant, along with his dismal record of getting nothing done...

Because it's an on-going issue?

Still, I don't think that is a reasonable limit. Just about everything a candidate's done since she/he was 18 should be scrutinized.

206 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:21:47am

re: #191 bloodnok

Deval as possible AG? I never thought I'd say this, but I'd rather have him as our governor.

Me too.

The Beacon Hill goons really run the show around here anyway.

207 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:21:56am

re: #189 Westward Ho

I read something about another person in the campaign team banging her.

Andrew Young.

208 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:21:59am

re: #198 MandyManners

*snicker*

Oh, wow. Very good. Bonus (and one wouldn't notice this unless you ride Hunt Seat), but Reagan always had the best high boots. I've always wondered who made them.

209 pingjockey  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:22:10am

re: #200 loppydCool. Missed voting for Gerald Ford vs Jimmah by one year.

210 Westward Ho  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:22:16am

re: #166 HoosierHoops

Hoosier,

Thanks for the info, it is settled, I fail to understand why he denies that he is the father of the child? Is his wife that stupid

211 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:23:21am

re: #192 looking closely

Could the child sue to prove paternity once she turns 18?

212 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:23:36am

re: #167 JammieWearingFool

When you need to power up that 28,000 square foot mansion of his, there isn't too much disposable income left at Chez Silky.

Especially with the high energy costs during the Bush Depression.

Well he could inflate the tires in his fleet of SUVs.

213 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:23:44am

re: #201 loflyer

Are you alluding to the fact that she was hired on as Edwards mistress by his campaign?

I don't know, but during the Civil war the was a General "Hooker" who hired women to keep his troops company. Maybe Edwards is just a big-time Civil War buff?

214 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:25:05am

re: #210 Westward Ho

Hoosier,

Thanks for the info, it is settled, I fail to understand why he denies that he is the father of the child? Is his wife that stupid

no he thinks we are...
/

215 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:25:12am

re: #199 Noam Chumpski

My understanding as well is that he hired her to do web videos even though she had never done them nor had any experience in the creative or video industry. That's strange... lol... unless...

I delated all the llinks on my desktop to the Edwards debacle but, I recall that she shot a 20-ninute flick about New Age crap.

216 loflyer  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:25:14am

re: #205 MandyManners

Because it's an on-going issue?

Still, I don't think that is a reasonable limit. Just about everything a candidate's done since she/he was 18 should be scrutinized.

But good leaders are not coming forward because they did cocaine when they were 24, or knocked up their second cousin at 19. America has no good leaders because many of us have made some really poor choices when we were younger. America needs every good leader she can get, and most are hiding due to "skeletons in the closet".

217 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:25:21am

re: #204 vagabond trader

That's the least they could have done. Our voting station is at the dog pound.

Oh, that's sad. I'd end up with another animal every voting day. Must be a city conspiracy to off-load strays.

218 looking closely  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:25:52am

re: #184 NY Nana

She reminds me so much of our ex-governor, Elliot Spitzer's pathetic door mat wife.

How do bright, well-educated women do such stupid things?

And she is allowing herself to be used while she is fighting terminal Ca of the breast? So tragic.

That he and his mistress could be waiting for the mother of his children, 2 of whom she bore after their 16 year old son was killed in an automobile accident, because Silky Pony wanted a replacement son, to expire? I just hope Elizabeth Edwards divorces the bastard, but bet she won"t.

I have a feeling that Mrs. Edwards might have developed Ca of the breast as a result of hormonal changes that were age related, and the surge of hormones from the pregnancies..2, as the first was a girl, and the second was a boy. They need their mother...and the oldest daughter must feel like she was an afterthought...not sure if she was the oldest.
.


In general, having had children is actually protective against breast cancer, supposedly because of changes the breast undergoes for lactation. (Though recent pregnancy can increase the acute risk because of hormonal stimulation).

Regardless, there are some rumors that this isn't the first affair on Edwards part. That adds to the mix.

As to why she isn't dumping him, Elizabeth Edwards may not have assets of her own, and she may not want to spent the rest of her life fighting her husband in divorce court. She may blame herself (rightly or wrongly) for her husbands lapses after having had cancer, for not having "been there" for him, etc.

Likely, she believes her husband when he claims the baby isn't his. Heck, perhaps it actually isn't, though despite his public denials, it seems plain that Edwards himself believes it is, or likely is.

219 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:26:30am

re: #208 Noam Chumpski

Oh, wow. Very good. Bonus (and one wouldn't notice this unless you ride Hunt Seat), but Reagan always had the best high boots. I've always wondered who made them.

A former Lizard did it.

220 MarineMomSue  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:26:36am

re: #37 CyanSnowHawk

This tells me a couple things about Elizabeth Edwards.

1) She is placing her marital relationship second to her husbands political ambitions. This could be for a variety of reason, but being the wife of a high level politician is not exactly a hard life and the family tends to be well cared for.

2) She may very well have allowed or even blessed his fooling around, hardly in step with mainstream American values, but not unheard of.

Don't know that I like either one. I do hope that it tarnishes him enough for the people to kick him out come the next election.

Elizabeth is hardly alone when it comes to helping her wayward husband try to keep his sleaziness out of the public eye. Hillary was/is a master at covering for her sleazy spouse and he got re-elected. The only difference I see is that EE has a fatal illness and small children. That might be enough to put an end to this particular sleazeball's political hopes.

221 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:26:45am

re: #215 MandyManners

I delated all the llinks on my desktop to the Edwards debacle but, I recall that she shot a 20-ninute flick about New Age crap.

I wonder what else she shot with Edwards?

222 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:26:49am

re: #211 MandyManners

Could the child sue to prove paternity once she turns 18?

It would make more sense for her to do it prior to emancipation. Once she's 18 he doesn't owe her jack.

We represented the mother of a pro football player's child and had paternity proved and eventually had him locked up in the slammer for not paying support.

223 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:27:03am

re: #213 Noam Chumpski

I don't know, but during the Civil war the was a General "Hooker" who hired women to keep his troops company. Maybe Edwards is just a big-time Civil War buff?

Oh, you're good.

224 loflyer  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:27:14am

re: #213 Noam Chumpski

I don't know, but during the Civil war the was a General "Hooker" who hired women to keep his troops company. Maybe Edwards is just a big-time Civil War buff?

So's my Dad, and he doesn't buy hookers or fly to L.V. to meet old business acquaintances at 2:45 AM in her hotel room....

225 Bill M  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:27:21am

re: #36 realwest

Wonder how he got that?

From the sweat on the back of his shirt and the scrape, it looks to me as though he was playing v-ball with the team and might have gotten that trying to dig for the ball. Just a guess, but close I'll wager.

226 DaChew  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:27:33am

OK, he made a mistake in 2006. I got that. Fine. So, what is he doing meeting the woman he had an affair with in a hotel here in 2008? I had girlfriends before I was married. I don't meet them in hotel rooms anymore. Go ahead and heal Elizabeth, not a problem. I feel for you for the mistake John made in 2006.

Now, WHAT'S HE DOING MEETING THE SAME WOMAN IN A HOTEL ROOM IN 2008?

Unless there's some "residual connection" left between the two of them, there's no reason for John to be meeting the woman he had an affair with in 2006. Is there?

227 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:27:54am

re: #219 MandyManners

A former Lizard did it.

You're bs-ing me. I'm on to you. His boots came from God.

228 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:28:09am

re: #216 loflyer

But good leaders are not coming forward because they did cocaine when they were 24, or knocked up their second cousin at 19. America has no good leaders because many of us have made some really poor choices when we were younger. America needs every good leader she can get, and most are hiding due to "skeletons in the closet".

Americans are a pretty forgiving lot, and most of us can look past such stuff. Well, I can except maybe having sex with your cousin.

229 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:28:32am

I didn't mean for that last sentence to come out the way it did.

230 loflyer  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:29:28am

re: #228 MandyManners

Americans are a pretty forgiving lot, and most of us can look past such stuff. Well, I can except maybe having sex with your cousin.

I can agree with you there!

231 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:30:02am

re: #218 looking closely

In general, having had children is actually protective against breast cancer, supposedly because of changes the breast undergoes for lactation. (Though recent pregnancy can increase the acute risk because of hormonal stimulation).

Regardless, there are some rumors that this isn't the first affair on Edwards part. That adds to the mix.

As to why she isn't dumping him, Elizabeth Edwards may not have assets of her own, and she may not want to spent the rest of her life fighting her husband in divorce court. She may blame herself (rightly or wrongly) for her husbands lapses after having had cancer, for not having "been there" for him, etc.

Likely, she believes her husband when he claims the baby isn't his. Heck, perhaps it actually isn't, though despite his public denials, it seems plain that Edwards himself believes it is, or likely is.

Horsefeathers! Half of the marital estate belongs to her. It doesn't matter who earned it.

232 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:30:09am

re: #228 MandyManners

Americans are a pretty forgiving lot, and most of us can look past such stuff. Well, I can except maybe having sex with your cousin.

I agree--notice how Obama's admitted cocaine use is a non-issue.

233 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:30:11am

re: #224 loflyer

So's my Dad, and he doesn't buy hookers or fly to L.V. to meet old business acquaintances at 2:45 AM in her hotel room....

Ha!

234 rawmuse  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:30:42am

re: #228 MandyManners

Americans are a pretty forgiving lot, and most of us can look past such stuff. Well, I can except maybe having sex with your cousin.

Hey, have you actually SEEN my cousin? :)

235 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:30:54am

re: #222 loppyd

It would make more sense for her to do it prior to emancipation. Once she's 18 he doesn't owe her jack.

We represented the mother of a pro football player's child and had paternity proved and eventually had him locked up in the slammer for not paying support.

I was thinking for purposes of inheritance.

236 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:31:58am

re: #227 Noam Chumpski

You're bs-ing me. I'm on to you. His boots came from God.

The photoshop! The photoshop!

237 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:32:37am

re: #235 MandyManners

I was thinking for purposes of inheritance.

Absolutely!

238 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:32:40am

re: #232 goddessoftheclassroom

I agree--notice how Obama's admitted cocaine use is a non-issue.

As long as he ain't snorting while he's an elected official.

239 Paul  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:33:05am

Sadly, the wife of a lying scumbag ambulance chaser turns out to be a liar too. But perhaps the biggest liars in this sordid affair was the MSM and its allies in the left wing blogosphere which did all it could to prevent any news of John Edwards' philandering from seeing the light of day.

240 loflyer  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:33:14am

Later guys, got errands to run!

241 Bubblehead II  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:33:17am

re: #203 Rides A Pale Horse

Are you implying that Liz had children by someone other than the Silk Pony?

242 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:33:28am

re: #237 loppyd

Absolutely!

Could she sue to prove paternity before 18? Wouldn't she need an adult to do it on her behalf?

243 Noam Chumpski  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:33:53am

I'm out. Much too beautiful day in Atlanta, y'all.

244 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:35:16am

i haven't read the entire thread, so if someone else mentioned this, i apologize.

but i think that rielle hunter looks like a clasic skank. and according to today's NY Post, her previous activities in and around NYC seem to confirm it.

245 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:35:28am

re: #217 Noam Chumpski

Funny thing is, there are never any pooches there, and it's not for the awful reason you might think. We love dogs around here so my theory is that the place is for just in case one of the local mutts goes wandering off.

246 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:36:15am

re: #184 NY Nana

When they found out she was terminal, he should have immediately ceased campaigning, and devoted himself to her and their kids. Instead, they carried on.

BINGO !
As I type this, Mr. Wolf is sitting....I use the word loosely....in a chair watching TV, snarfing potato chips and beer. He's supposed to be clearing all his fishing gear off the front porch. Let me tell you, my friends, after 25+ years this ain't no honeymoon!

But I can tell you right now that if wolfie had a deadly cancer recurrence as Elizabeth did, there is NO WAY Mr. Wolf would have gone on campaigning like Johnny-boy. NO WAY. All the money in the world, all the power in the world would mean NOTHING to him compared to my health and life. All that would matter to him is TIME, time with me and our pups.

I knew Edwards was a POS way back when "they" decided to go on campaigning. Where the hell are their priorities?

Mr. Wolf just burped......Sigh. :)

247 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:36:18am

Oh, the tawdriness:

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

Sister sticks up for Rielle:

"Somebody must stand up and defend my sister," she said. "I wish that those involved would refrain from bad-mouthing my sister."

I admire family loyalty, but, to be fair, Sis did sleep with a married man...

248 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:37:29am

re: #188 MandyManners

He wasn't with ACORN? Didn't know Dohrn and Ayers?

That's not "personal."
I think Lo Flyer was talking about sexual and medicinal indiscretions.

249 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:38:12am

"Putin defends Russia's Ossetia incursion, slams Georgia over 'genocide'"

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

"Putin says he is willing to take paternity Test!"
OK, I made that up.

250 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:38:41am

re: #248 wolfie

That's not "personal."
I think Lo Flyer was talking about sexual and medicinal indiscretions.

What about being busted for prostitution? Solicitation thereof? Orgies? Beastiality?

251 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:38:52am

re: #247 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, the tawdriness:

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

Sister sticks up for Rielle:


I admire family loyalty, but, to be fair, Sis did sleep with a married man...

A very famous man running to be POTUS..
she might not have noticed that fact...

252 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:38:56am

Oh, goodness. I'm insane.

253 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:39:37am
254 rightwinger3  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:39:55am

re: #246 wolfie

Mr. Wolf just burped......Sigh. :)

Means he still loves you even after 25 years wolfie. Wait till he farts.

255 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:40:11am

I don't understand why the Kos kids are upset and disappointed -- I thought they valued immorality. ?

256 looking closely  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:40:53am

re: #211 MandyManners

Could the child sue to prove paternity once she turns 18?


I don't think so (though I defer to someone with more knowledge on this). No child support after 18, I don't think.

If I were Hunter, I'd be looking into my legal options, simply because Edwards is a proven liar. I simply wouldn't trust him to keep up his end of whatever bargain they've made. In fact, I wonder if she has been squirreled away precisely so that she CANNOT do this.

As to Edwards being "floated" as Obama's Attorney General, I think it was Edwards who was doing most of the "floating". Even without this clusterf@#$ he was probably never going to get that job, and his political career was likely over anyway. Now it seems definitely so.

And I'll posit one more theory (which is purely speculative, and probably is NOT true). Perhaps Lisa Druck/Rielle Hunter *did* carry on with someone else, and perhaps she herself isn't absolutely certain about paternity. In that case, it might be in both her AND Edwards interests to forgo paternity testing. Edwards wouldn't want to be tested because the testing could prove that he IS the father. Hunter wouldn't want to take a chance that he is NOT the father, thereby forgoing her meal ticket *and* further humiliating herself at the same time.

257 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:41:07am

re: #254 rightwinger3

Means he still loves you even after 25 years wolfie. Wait till he farts.

'Tisn't the farts - 'tis the discarded socks everywhere ...

258 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:41:23am

re: #255 American Jewess In Jerusalem

They just don't know the difference!

259 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:42:10am

re: #254 rightwinger3

When that momentous event first occurs between a couple, it's then you know you were meant for each other.

260 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:42:31am

re: #247 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, the tawdriness:

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

As he left the meeting, at 2:30 in the morning, he was confronted by reporters from the National Enquirer.

Blow-by-blow.

Edwards went out of the hotel briefly with Rielle, they were observed by the NATIONAL ENQUIRER and then went back to her room, where he stayed until attempting to sneak out of the hotel unseen at 2:40 a.m. (PST). But when he emerged alone from an elevator into the hotel basement he was greeted by several reporters from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER.

Senior NATIONAL ENQUIRER Reporter Alexander Hitchen asked Edwards why he was visiting Rielle and whether he was ready to confirm that he was the father of her baby.

Shocked to see a reporter, and without saying anything, Edwards ran up the stairs leading from the hotel basement to the lobby. But, spotting a photographer, he doubled back into the basement. As he emerged from the stairwell, reporter Butterfield questioned him about his hookup with Rielle.

Edwards did not answer and then ran into a nearby restroom. He stayed inside for about 15 minutes, refusing to answer questions from the NATIONAL ENQUIRER about what he was doing in the hotel. A group of hotel security men eventually escorted him from the men's room, while preventing the NATIONAL ENQUIRER reporters from following him out of the hotel.

Said reporter Hitchen: "After we confronted him about seeing Rielle, Edwards looked like a deer caught in headlights!

"He was clearly surprised that we had caught him at this very late hour inside the hotel.

SNIP

261 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:43:25am

re: #256 looking closely

I was speaking about inheritance.

262 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:43:37am

re: #253 ploome hineni

says who?

Yrs. trly.

263 rightwinger3  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:43:40am

re: #259 vagabond trader

When that momentous event first occurs between a couple, it's then you know you were meant for each other.

I'll never forget the moment!

264 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:45:32am
265 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:45:44am

re: #242 MandyManners

Could she sue to prove paternity before 18? Wouldn't she need an adult to do it on her behalf?

I believe she could hire a lawyer with the court's approval - each state is different.

266 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:45:46am

re: #263 rightwinger3

When my mister first let one slip and I merely shrugged he knew I was the one. Ain't love grand.

267 Bubblehead II  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:45:49am

re: #255 American Jewess In Jerusalem

It's not the immorality of the situation that has them upset. They could care less about that. It's the fact that if he had got the nomination and had this come up after he was nominated, it would have sunk the Dems chance of wining the general election.

/Morals be d*mned, it's all about the power

268 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:46:35am

re: #259 vagabond trader

When that momentous event first occurs between a couple, it's then you know you were meant for each other.

Some of us had the decency to wait till after we were married!

269 nyc redneck  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:46:45am

she has made such a strange emotionless statement.
either she doesn't care or she is totally out of touch w/ her feelings.
her reaction is typical of libs who can accept the unacceptable or intellectualize anything.
what a cold arrangement she has w/ this narcissist.

270 loppyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:47:04am

OK then - -off to the farmstand for some corn and other veggies.

Have a good afternoon!

271 nyc redneck  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:48:05am

re: #270 loppyd

OK then - -off to the farmstand for some corn and other veggies.

Have a good afternoon!

have fun. :)

272 rightwinger3  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:48:07am

re: #266 vagabond trader

When my mister first let one slip and I merely shrugged he knew I was the one. Ain't love grand.

They're even more fun when the kids come along. My oldest is 16 and he still laughs when I fart.

273 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:48:35am

re: #265 loppyd

I believe she could hire a lawyer with the court's approval - each state is different.

Could you imagine going up against his attorneys? Or, would he just roll over?

274 FredWM  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:49:01am

And when the media chased after one conservative commentator after another, all without a government post by the way, where was Elizabeth? Was she standing up for their right to privacy? Was she scolding the press for invading their driveways? Or do only Democrat politicians have a right to privacy? Remember the "it’s their hypocrisy that makes it newsworthy" meme?

275 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:49:57am

re: #232 goddessoftheclassroom

I agree--notice how Obama's admitted cocaine use is a non-issue.

He admitted to it. He also added the requisite condemnation of it.
Likewise, Al Gore admitted to having smoked weed when young, saying he was a silly fool to go along with the crowd, etc.
Bill Clinton, OTOH, gave us that crap about not inhaling.

McCain's marital history is a non-issue because he has admitted he was a POS to his first wife and has expressed repentance for doing her wrong. (Not just making a "mistake.")

276 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:50:15am
277 looking closely  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:53:10am

re: #226 DaChew


Unless there's some "residual connection" left between the two of them, there's no reason for John to be meeting the woman he had an affair with in 2006. Is there?


If they really had a brief affair than he broke if off before she got pregnant (as Edwards claims) then no.

Being Devil's advocate she could have been threatening to try and go public with their affair to hurt him politically. Even if the baby *isn't* his, her claiming it is publically and suing for paternity would be politically calamitous.

Now, I don't actually believe this. If Edwards *really* didn't think the baby was his (or likely was his), he would have simply said, "go for it" you're going to look like a slut when paternity testing proves I'm not the father.

I'd like to see pictures of this baby and see how much it resembles (or not) Edwards.

278 looking closely  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:55:48am

re: #261 MandyManners

I was speaking about inheritance.


OK, that wasn't clear to me.

I don't know what the rules are in North Carolina (or even what state's rules apply here), but in many states, a person isn't obligated to leave one red cent to their offspring.

That's actual offspring, not individuals claiming to be offspring without evidence.

279 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:56:54am

Oh hell, if I were in charge the Obama would undergo a mandatory drug screen for A-Z. I know, RACIST!

280 debutaunt  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:56:56am

re: #257 yma o hyd

'Tisn't the farts - 'tis the discarded socks everywhere ...

An easy way to deal with that, is to wonder, out loud, how much a taser gun costs.

281 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:57:22am

re: #277 looking closely

Paternity testing on the baby was delayed because the afore mentioned baby was in court suing a pharmaceutical company over a new cancer drug. The blood sucking baby could not be reached for comment, but was seen fixing his hair during a recess.

282 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:57:23am

re: #275 wolfie

He admitted to it. He also added the requisite condemnation of it.
Likewise, Al Gore admitted to having smoked weed when young, saying he was a silly fool to go along with the crowd, etc.
Bill Clinton, OTOH, gave us that crap about not inhaling.

McCain's marital history is a non-issue because he has admitted he was a POS to his first wife and has expressed repentance for doing her wrong. (Not just making a "mistake.")

Isn't he still paying her medical insurance/expenses?

283 ckb  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:57:32am

Elizabeth is complaining about tabloid lies?

Simple question: If the baby is not his and John was not visiting the baby, who was he visiting at 2am at that hotel? Is the answer to that question any more comforting than if it was the baby John was visiting?

Is it any more comforting that Rielle has been living in the lap of luxury? Paid for by whom?

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

284 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:59:03am

re: #276 ploome hineni

ROFL !

285 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 11:59:35am

re: #282 MandyManners

They are reported to have a cordial relationship, and I believe he bought her a home. McCain had also adopted the kids from her first marriage.

286 beens21  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:00:02pm

[Link: news.yahoo.com...] my favorite of th vball pics.

287 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:01:20pm
288 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:02:08pm

re: #278 looking closely

OK, that wasn't clear to me.

I don't know what the rules are in North Carolina (or even what state's rules apply here), but in many states, a person isn't obligated to leave one red cent to their offspring.

That's actual offspring, not individuals claiming to be offspring without evidence.

It would be the state in which the baby has resided six months or since birth if less than six momths old. (Went through that shit with the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction and Enforcement Act over which court had jurisdiction to decide parenting time/child support during my divorce. Do you have any idea how much attorneys who are certified experts in the UCCJEA and the Hague Convention and the whole jurisidictional issue charge per hour?! GAH.)

289 Bill M  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:02:11pm

re: #170 pingjockey

Kids! First vote RWR 1980. Fuck Jimmah Cartur.

Jeez!

RMN vs McGovern - 1972

And despite the follow-on, I know I still made the better choice.

290 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:02:22pm

re: #280 debutaunt

An easy way to deal with that, is to wonder, out loud, how much a taser gun costs.

LOL ! There's actually an easier way to deal with discarded socks, one that I learned from my mother.
Put them in the garbage.
They must be trash, right? If they were meant to be laundered, they'd be put in the laundry.

291 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:03:29pm

BRB

292 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:04:35pm

re: #288 MandyManners

It would be the state in which the baby has resided six months or since birth if less than six momths old. (Went through that shit with the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction and Enforcement Act over which court had jurisdiction to decide parenting time/child support during my divorce. Do you have any idea how much attorneys who are certified experts in the UCCJEA and the Hague Convention and the whole jurisidictional issue charge per hour?! GAH.)

Mandy ... you have a head start on a new career if you want it. :-)

293 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:05:09pm

re: #282 MandyManners

Isn't he still paying her medical insurance/expenses?

Yes, he is. In fact, IIRC, that's where most of his navy disability pay has gone ever since he started drawing a regular paycheck from Congress.

294 Shr_Nfr  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:07:26pm

"The pain caused by people covering this". - Well, I'll tell ya, when you do something that is wrong, you suffer the consequences. One of the consequences of running for president and getting your dick caught in the wrong place is a lot of bad publicity. If you lie about it under oath its called an impeachment procedure because you have committed a crime. If I lie to a federal officer on official business it is a criminal act. Given that I as an average citizen would be prosecuted for that act, I would wish that Mr. Edwards would be subject to the same treatment.

295 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:08:51pm

"Iranian refuses to race Israeli swimmer"

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Really classy!

296 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:09:41pm

re: #294 Shr_Nfr

Have to lock up 90% of all politicians.

297 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:11:17pm

re: #296 Bobibutu

Have to lock up 90% of all politicians.

And the downside would be what?

298 Racer X  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:11:43pm

re: #276 ploome hineni

That is soooo romantic!

299 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:12:25pm

re: #280 debutaunt

An easy way to deal with that, is to wonder, out loud, how much a taser gun costs.

They hadn't been invented yet at the time whereof I speak ...
I just left them lying around, unwashed ... pity that at some point there were no more clean socks ... he got it then!

300 jcm  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:14:05pm

re: #297 Nevergiveup

And the downside would be what?

10% are still out?

301 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:14:14pm

re: #292 Bobibutu

Mandy ... you have a head start on a new career if you want it. :-)

It looks good on my resume, and I can talk about it with ease in interviews.

302 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:14:32pm

re: #293 wolfie

Yes, he is. In fact, IIRC, that's where most of his navy disability pay has gone ever since he started drawing a regular paycheck from Congress.

Decent man.

303 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:15:37pm

re: #294 Shr_Nfr

"The pain caused by people covering this". - Well, I'll tell ya, when you do something that is wrong, you suffer the consequences. One of the consequences of running for president and getting your dick caught in the wrong place is a lot of bad publicity. If you lie about it under oath its called an impeachment procedure because you have committed a crime. If I lie to a federal officer on official business it is a criminal act. Given that I as an average citizen would be prosecuted for that act, I would wish that Mr. Edwards would be subject to the same treatment.

Has he lied under oath? Has he lied to a federal officer?

304 Nevergiveup  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:15:40pm

re: #300 jcm

10% are still out?

I walked right into that one!

305 debutaunt  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:16:05pm

re: #299 yma o hyd

They hadn't been invented yet at the time whereof I speak ...
I just left them lying around, unwashed ... pity that at some point there were no more clean socks ... he got it then!

When my kids complained that some item of clothing hadn't been laundered, I walked them to the laundryroom and explained how the washer and dryer worked.

306 Bobibutu  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:16:12pm

re: #297 Nevergiveup

And the downside would be what?

Zero! As Bucky Fuller once mused ... putting all the earths politicians in a space capsule in permanent orbit without communications would be a good thing.

307 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:16:25pm

re: #290 wolfie

LOL ! There's actually an easier way to deal with discarded socks, one that I learned from my mother.
Put them in the garbage.
They must be trash, right? If they were meant to be laundered, they'd be put in the laundry.

Picking up after males, even to put thigns into the trash?
Oh noo, never! Let them suffocate in their own mess, once, and suffer the consequences (like, no mugs and teaspoon in the kitchen any longer as they've all migrated to various male rooms upstairs ...): no need for lectures or rows ...

308 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:16:30pm

re: #295 Nevergiveup

"Iranian refuses to race Israeli swimmer"

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Really classy!

So help me, I thought about sperm when I first read that.

309 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:17:56pm

re: #308 MandyManners

So help me, I thought about sperm when I first read that.

there are just no words for you !

310 jcm  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:18:01pm

re: #304 Nevergiveup

I walked right into that one!

LOL! I like a nice slow one right down the middle now and then.

311 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:18:28pm
312 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:18:30pm

re: #307 yma o hyd

Picking up after males, even to put thigns into the trash?
Oh noo, never! Let them suffocate in their own mess, once, and suffer the consequences (like, no mugs and teaspoon in the kitchen any longer as they've all migrated to various male rooms upstairs ...): no need for lectures or rows ...

Dickhead got around that tactic by buying his own paper plates, styrofoam cups and plastic utensils.

313 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:18:52pm

re: #309 sattv4u2

there are just no words for you !

Well, look at the thread's topic.

314 jcm  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:19:42pm

re: #295 Nevergiveup

"Iranian refuses to race Israeli swimmer"

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Really classy!

I don't blame him, you know what kind of party he'd have we got back after losing to a Jooo!
/

315 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:20:13pm

re: #295 Nevergiveup

"Iranian refuses to race Israeli swimmer"

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Really classy!

Politicians are stupid f*ckwits, and need to be strictly kept out of sporting events. But hey, if making a stupid point like this is more important than competing for a place in the finals, so be it: cut off yer nose to spite yer face, well done Iran!

316 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:23:18pm

re: #305 debutaunt

When my kids complained that some item of clothing hadn't been laundered, I walked them to the laundryroom and explained how the washer and dryer worked.

Excellent!
When they left the kitchen in a mess, it was no dinner until it was cleared up ... one calm statement from me, no rows, I just walked out of the kitchen. Heh.

317 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:25:08pm

re: #312 MandyManners

Dickhead got around that tactic by buying his own paper plates, styrofoam cups and plastic utensils.

Teeheehee - did you make him take the rubbish out, or was he allowed to wallow in his own mess?

318 paint-right  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:26:03pm

This all brings to mind a name from the past...in case no one has mentioned it

does the name "Lurleen" ring a bell?

Sorry if it has been mentioned

319 wolfie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:26:52pm

re: #315 yma o hyd

Politicians are stupid f*ckwits, and need to be strictly kept out of sporting events. But hey, if making a stupid point like this is more important than competing for a place in the finals, so be it: cut off yer nose to spite yer face, well done Iran!

Indeed.
I do feel a bit sorry for the Iranian swimmer, who undoubtedly wanted to compete. But I suppose athletes from places like Iran know there's always a chance their governments will pull this kind of stunt.

320 nyc redneck  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:27:19pm

re: #295 Nevergiveup

"Iranian refuses to race Israeli swimmer"

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Really classy!

fcker probably can't swim anyway.

321 paint-right  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:28:59pm
322 CapeCoddah  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:30:05pm

re: #316 yma o hyd
LOL, Worked for me 20 years ago driving a middle school school bus, I had spitballs hitting the windshield, and no one would fess up. This was on the way home from school, before my first stop, so, I pulled into a resturant parking lot, shut down the bus and asked whodunnit.
All I got were snickers. So, I pulled out a paperback, sat in my seat, put my feet up on the console, and started reading. Took about 3 minutes before they gave up the little turd. Turns out it was the punk son of a punk local police officer. Next morning, I told him he had to clean the entire inside of the bus. He said he did not. I radioed ahead to the principal, and when we pulled up to the school, the Principal was waiting with mop, bucket, windex and paper towels. He cleaned the bus.

323 Opilio  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:31:27pm

re: #295 Nevergiveup

"Iranian refuses to race Israeli swimmer"

Really classy!

In the parade of nations thing during the opening ceremonies, the Iranian team was introduced immediately after the Iraqi team. While most teams received no discernable reaction from the crowd, the Iraqi team received a mildly warm reception, while the Iranians got a decidedly cool one.

I also saw the team from "Palestine", but I must've missed the ones from Macho Grande, Outer Slobovia, the Duchy of Grand Fenwick, and other countries that don't exist.

324 SavannahWinslow  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:33:32pm

Don't know how I managed to irk Charles, but I posted Elizabeth Edwards' DKos diary link almost nineteen hours ago to the LinkViewer.

325 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:33:37pm

re: #323 Opilio

I also saw the team from "Palestine",

I didn't know Bus Blowing Up was an Olympic event!

326 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:33:56pm

re: #323 Opilio

In the parade of nations thing during the opening ceremonies, the Iranian team was introduced immediately after the Iraqi team. While most teams received no discernable reaction from the crowd, the Iraqi team received a mildly warm reception, while the Iranians got a decidedly cool one.

I also saw the team from "Palestine", but I must've missed the ones from Macho Grande, Outer Slobovia, the Duchy of Grand Fenwick, and other countries that don't exist.

I saw the "Palestine" team too, and wondered what country that was supposed to be.

327 Opilio  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:36:39pm

re: #321 paint-right

the sad story of Lurleen Wallace

Wow. I never knew anything about that. Truly shameful.

328 flynmudd  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:45:08pm

re: #315 yma o hyd

Funny you say that. That is the same thing I said when people complained about Bush going to China. I do believe he said he was going for the games and the teams.

329 Opilio  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:46:16pm

re: #324 SavannahWinslow

Don't know how I managed to irk Charles, but I posted Elizabeth Edwards' DKos diary link almost nineteen hours ago to the LinkViewer.

It happens all the time. Charles can't possibly read every comment and note every link -- and you weren't the only one to mention her DKos diary here yesterday. I wouldn't take it personally.

330 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:47:44pm

re: #218 looking closely


Regardless, there are some rumors that this isn't the first affair on Edwards part. That adds to the mix.

As to why she isn't dumping him, Elizabeth Edwards may not have assets of her own, and she may not want to spent the rest of her life fighting her husband in divorce court. She may blame herself (rightly or wrongly) for her husbands lapses after having had cancer, for not having "been there" for him, etc.

Likely, she believes her husband when he claims the baby isn't his. Heck, perhaps it actually isn't, though despite his public denials, it seems plain that Edwards himself believes it is, or likely is.

She herself was a practicing attorney...and the 2 children who she had so late in life (in medical terms) were conceived 'with the use of medical therapies'.

This article has her CV, with her career and personal info.

And this article*** explains the law where they live, where she could get a very handsome settlement because of her lovely husband's behavior.

***I do not like the name of the site...one of our sons is a lawyer, as are a number of lizards, but it does spell it out..

Any way you look at this, there are no winners.

331 bluebonnet  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:51:12pm

Poor deluded Elizabeth...she should take her children, kick his sorry ass out, and clean out the bank account before the mistress and love child get it all. She is not doing her children any good by denying the truth and having them live with his lies. They will all be better off in the long run. John Edwards is the lowest of the low to betray his sick wife in his way.

332 TS  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 12:58:25pm

Take it from someone in NC...they are BOTH scumbags!

333 docremulac  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:01:17pm

What a brave man to hide quivering behind his cancer victim wife and say:

"You wouldn't point an accusing finger at a cancer victim would you?"

You don't get any scummier than this pathetic little pig. Democrat voters really do have sh*t for brains.

334 uncleFuzzy  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:01:41pm

re: #137 Bloodnok

But, I think every single candidate for president, Republican and Democratic have lives, personal lives, that indicate something about what kind of human being they are. And I think it is a fair evaluation for America to engage in to look at what kind of human beings each of us are, and what kind of president we'd make.

John Edwards- 60 Minutes 3/24/07

Oh, but he's not running for POTUS anymore. I guess it doesn't apply to potential Veeps.

/feh

That doesn't count because the cancer was in remission at the time. Or it wasn't. Or it was the weekend. Yeah, it was a Saturday when he said that so it was definitely the weekend so it doesn't count.

Sheesh. While I find fault in the affair it is the cover up that really ticks me off.

To the entire Edwards family, you have my deepest sympathy for Elizabeth's cancer diagnosis. As for the rest of this sordid affair, you have been hoist by your own petard and for that I have no sympathy whatsoever.

335 uncleFuzzy  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:03:41pm

re: #318 paint-right

This all brings to mind a name from the past...in case no one has mentioned it

does the name "Lurleen" ring a bell?

Sorry if it has been mentioned

Is this who you mean?

336 mich-again  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:07:02pm

I call bullshit on that story. She's just as big a political animal as him.

337 imtoast  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:18:56pm

What is it with women who do this? Are their ambitions one and the same, forget about personal dignity? That kind of violation of trust is just disgusting. He violated her, she violated the public, nasty, nasty circle. Does anyone really believe that this is the first time this slimy worm cheated?

338 Catttt  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:26:01pm

I was diagnosed with cancer and found out my ex was cheating on me at pretty much the same time. He'd been cheating before I was diagnosed, and as usual, the wife was the last to figure it out (a woman friend told me).

We separated and divorced. I actually snapped at someone who kept calling me to ask how I was - "I'm fine, dammit. Quit asking me that!" My ex explained that I was supposed to be falling apart and whining, and it confused people when I didn't.

There was no attempted cover-up. My ex was not discrete, and when I found out, neither was I. If he had been running for office, he would have been outed as soon as I found out about the cheating. But then, I'm not an uber ambitious political gorgon.

I see a huge hubris undertow for both Mr. and Mrs. Edwards, and I cannot feel sorry for either one of them.

339 big steve  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:30:57pm

re: #337 imtoast

What is it with women who do this? Are their ambitions one and the same, forget about personal dignity? That kind of violation of trust is just disgusting. He violated her, she violated the public, nasty, nasty circle. Does anyone really believe that this is the first time this slimy worm cheated?

I have a hard and fast rule, one can never know the phenomenology of someone else's marriage. We really can't know what goes on in the Edwards household. For all we know she has had affairs that he has forgiven her for. Maybe they are just bare naked political animals like the Clintons; who knows. In this case, since the affair took place two years ago and she was aware and yet they both agreed to put themselves through a presidential election primary, then dumping his ass now makes no sense.

340 BingoBunny  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:38:35pm

we know Edwards was cheating on his wife as early as 2006.. probably sooner. Got caught.. but smoothed things over with his wife.. saving lots of money with no divorce. He ran for election again.. and first thing he thought of was bringing his ex mistress into the campaign for more travel time.. and a nice salary for work she had no experience doing. the baby obviously isn't his.

/nutroots

341 bravo  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:43:37pm

Come on you guys. Breck Girl admitted his love for "that woman" wasn't Rielle.

342 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:54:24pm

re: #338 Catttt

I was diagnosed with cancer and found out my ex was cheating on me at pretty much the same time. He'd been cheating before I was diagnosed, and as usual, the wife was the last to figure it out (a woman friend told me).[...]

[...]I see a huge hubris undertow for both Mr. and Mrs. Edwards, and I cannot feel sorry for either one of them.

I am so sorry. I hope that it is all behind you.

I agree with you re the hubris, but I think that in most people, there is almost an autonomic sympathy response in situations like this, even though the history in this case was known, denied by most, but known.

Notice how the MSM now responds? A day late and a dollar short.

Take care!

343 Freelance  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 1:55:14pm

It's all very nice to admit to an affair that happened in 2006, and try to brush it under the rug, but... The National Enquirer caught him in her hotel, 3 weeks ago!

Kudos to the National Enquirer! They knew he was lying sack of s#it, and proved it.

Anyone who would barricade himself in a hotel toilet to escape a bunch of hungover reporters doesn't have the nuts to be Vice President anyway, so... No harm done.

344 hermeneutics  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 2:16:19pm

The only winner in this scenario is the National Enquirer. Compared to the MSM, the NE looks pretty reasonable and quite capable of investigative reporting. Quite fun to watch.

345 Tilly  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 2:16:26pm

I never thought I would find something on huffington post I agree with but this was a pretty good blog entry...

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Of course the fact she went to the Kos really says a lot....

346 SummerSong  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 2:50:27pm

Heh, maybe he'll turn out to be just 99% the father of this child...

347 pchas  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 2:55:34pm

The Ballad of Rielle Hunter

Rielle Hunter is not my lover
Shes just a girl who claims that I am the one
But the kid is not my daughter
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son

348 Catttt  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 3:14:26pm

Just a thought - what ever happened to safe sex?

What if Senator E. was wearing a raincoat? That could be a reason to bank on the baby not being his.

349 vagabond trader  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 3:49:23pm

re: #348 Catttt

Catttt, according to my former gynecologist, condoms are highly overrated as a method of birth control. I'm wondering if the Breck Girl considers the baby a punishment.

350 bungie  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 3:54:14pm

re #246 Wolfie

You have so perfectly expressed what I've thought all along! I too am married about 25 years. . . and there is no way either of us would continue with a campaign if the other's cancer had come back. But then again neither of us are politicians and we have no personal interest in fame or power to that extent. We would want to spend more time with each other if we thought we were going to lose each other so soon. . .

Last year when Elizabeth's cancer was first announced, I got into a huge disagreement with a few Democrats on my bus. They were all for Edwards and I argued that running for President when his wife's cancer had come back showed bad values and character. Big argument. So nice to see others thoughts are similar to mine!

351 JustMyView  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 4:38:38pm

re: #350 bungie

re #246 Wolfie

You have so perfectly expressed what I've thought all along! I too am married about 25 years. . . and there is no way either of us would continue with a campaign if the other's cancer had come back. But then again neither of us are politicians and we have no personal interest in fame or power to that extent. We would want to spend more time with each other if we thought we were going to lose each other so soon. . .

Last year when Elizabeth's cancer was first announced, I got into a huge disagreement with a few Democrats on my bus. They were all for Edwards and I argued that running for President when his wife's cancer had come back showed bad values and character. Big argument. So nice to see others thoughts are similar to mine!

I think it depends on the person's medical status, i.e., how they are actually feeling. Although sometimes people undergoing cander treatment are very sick or, at least, medically fragile, sometimes they actually feel quite well. At the time, Elizabeth said that the main effect of her treatment was that she would occasionally feel tired, and she could always withdraw from campaign activities to rest. She said that, if she'd given up the campaign, she'd have felt that she was going home and waiting to die.

I think we have to respect their right to decide what was best for them. She certainly appears to have felt well during this time. On the occasions when I've seen her on TV recently, she's seemed lively and cheerful.

What's happened in the past few days has been, I'm pretty confident, tougher on her than the campaign.

352 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 5:03:31pm

re: #246 wolfie

BINGO !
As I type this, Mr. Wolf is sitting....I use the word loosely....in a chair watching TV, snarfing potato chips and beer. He's supposed to be clearing all his fishing gear off the front porch. Let me tell you, my friends, after 25+ years this ain't no honeymoon!

But I can tell you right now that if wolfie had a deadly cancer recurrence as Elizabeth did, there is NO WAY Mr. Wolf would have gone on campaigning like Johnny-boy. NO WAY. All the money in the world, all the power in the world would mean NOTHING to him compared to my health and life. All that would matter to him is TIME, time with me and our pups.

I knew Edwards was a POS way back when "they" decided to go on campaigning. Where the hell are their priorities?

Mr. Wolf just burped......Sigh. :)

Wolfie, I missed this just now, til View from Ireland just my view piped up. That Elizabeth Edwards was diagnosed last year, IIRC, with terminal Ca of the breast was what should have been the same day he quit the race to be with the family...end of case.

Great post! And Mr. Wolfie is a mensch! I have heard a lot of belches and, uh, other noises, in nearly 46 years of marriage! Let them continue
for decades longer!

(Ear plugs and a hazmat mask help!)

353 donna quixote  Sat, Aug 9, 2008 5:15:05pm

Edwards has always been a slime ball but I though Elizabeth was a little more human.. Now, unfortunately, she should be seen as Hillary's type; willing to do anything or accept anything in order to reach their family's political goals. Probably their two younger children are photogenic parts of that campaign. I have always thought Edwards was a poor politician but he has a very nasty reputation as an attorney, always taking cases he knew he could win.

354 rick554  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 5:39:41am

Creepy! Eliz. knew about this and STILL carried on with the "Silky Pony" Show. Gonna have to "check the timeline" to see if she was in ,or out , of remission.

355 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 6:40:58am
356 DaChew  Mon, Aug 11, 2008 5:48:51am

re: #277 looking closely

If they really had a brief affair than he broke if off before she got pregnant (as Edwards claims) then no.

Being Devil's advocate she could have been threatening to try and go public with their affair to hurt him politically. Even if the baby *isn't* his, her claiming it is publically and suing for paternity would be politically calamitous.

Now, I don't actually believe this. If Edwards *really* didn't think the baby was his (or likely was his), he would have simply said, "go for it" you're going to look like a slut when paternity testing proves I'm not the father.

I'd like to see pictures of this baby and see how much it resembles (or not) Edwards.

OK, so lets go the Devil's Advocate route a second. Lets say she is threatening to go public with the affair BUT the baby isn't actually his. Going public with just an affair isn't going to cut it these days - Jennifer Flowers (and all the others that popped up over the years) was not able to sink Clinton. Without the baby, it's a he said/she said thing and with Elizabeth on his side, standing by her man in her Hillary-issued pink suit, the lady's got nothin'. She would have to know this. And if this actually were the situation, John stays as far away as possible, he doesn't go meeting her in a hotel room. That would only help her argument.

Nope, John must believe the baby is his. If he didn't, he'd be asking for the paternity test now that the affair is public. I don't see another situation that explains his actions.

357 Nicely Nicely  Mon, Aug 11, 2008 9:26:59am

Edwards himself states that finding out information like this about you candidate is fair game. A quote from the chief hypocrite himself:

“…I think every single candidate for president, Republican and Democratic have lives, personal lives, that indicate something about what kind of human being they are. And I think it is a fair evaluation for America to engage in to look at what kind of human beings each of us are, and what kind of president we’d make.”

Seems pretty clear to me that SilkyPony brought on the scrutiny himself.


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