Nice job, Secret Service!

Is this nutjob really worth 50 mil or is that fantasy as well?

And this is different from what is on Kos about Bush how?

Or:

He says he believes...

in order to portray himself as a simple nut-job.

We already beat this Antichrist thing to death on a previous link. The true Antichrist would not need a Teleprompter to put two words together.

If he's "worth $50 million," I wonder what his bail will be set to. :-|

This is why the Antichrist crap is incredibly dangerous.

re: #3 kansas

And this is different from what is on Kos about Bush how?

Because we do not endorse political assassins, for starters.

Did he specify Muslim Anti-Christ v/s Christian Anti-Christ?

/no sarc - just wondering

Napoleon wasnt a great man in the classroom. Hitler was a lousy artist and a rabble rouser.

What qualifications do you need for antichrist?

Can't swing a dead cat without hitting an antiChrist.

He's wrong, the anti-Christ is my mother-in-law.

re: #10 Buster Bunny

Q: What do you call the one who graduates last in the class in medical school?

A: "Doctor."

re: #12 kevinmumaw

He's wrong, the anti-Christ is my mother-in-law.

Wally?!?

That IS scary. It's wrong and evil to threaten a candidate, for ANY reason.

re: #2 tokyobk

I vote fantasy.

Oh cmon Saddam was an antichrist .. i mean .. Nostradamus said so (not) and .. well .. look at all the wrath he caused (not) and all the countries he conquered (not)

Just because a squirrel runs for office doesnt mean its going to stop chasing nuts. But people better realise its just a squirrel.

re: #10 Buster Bunny

Napoleon wasnt a great man in the classroom. Hitler was a lousy artist and a rabble rouser.

What qualifications do you need for antichrist?

You need to be the subject of many crappy movies.

re: #5 ErnieG

We already beat this Antichrist thing to death on a previous link. The true Antichrist would not need a Teleprompter to put two words together.

We may have beaten it to death on another thread, but now we have someone who was apparently planning to act on this sick delusion.

This is a big reason why I won't allow this kind of crap at LGF.

I'm worth $50 million, too, at least I'm listed at $50 million, obo.

re: #7 Charles

This is why the Antichrist crap is incredibly dangerous.

So how did this even get started? I had one of the "kids" at work tell me they heard that he was as well. I was all WTF?

re: #10 Buster Bunny

Napoleon wasnt a great man in the classroom. Hitler was a lousy artist and a rabble rouser.

What qualifications do you need for antichrist?

re: #19 Charles

We may have beaten it to death on another thread, but now we have someone who was apparently planning to act on this sick delusion.

This is a big reason why I won't allow this kind of crap at LGF.

Hmmm but the same could be said, and I do say it about God or the Messiah. If he is indeed, he does not need to reach me through Jimmy Swaggart or a book that is so obviously written by men.

Then according to the federal affidavit, Blanchard, a father of two teenage daughters, spells out his plan — all while sitting in the Pineville-Matthews Road Waffle House.

Can't I just eat in my Waffle House?

re: #19 Charles

We may have beaten it to death on another thread, but now we have someone who was apparently planning to act on this sick delusion.

This is a big reason why I won't allow this kind of crap at LGF.

Too many fragile minds at the moment out there Charles. Not enough security and stability to offer anything but something close to reality.

People need that.

How serious a threat is someone who discusses his plan in a breakfast restaurant? I mean, I've overheard some really odd stuff in restaurants, though not a plan for assassinating a presidential candidate.

re: #24 solomonpanting

Can't I just eat in my Waffle House?

This weird stuff happens at the Waffle House for one reason only. You can still smoke in them. At least around here since they seat less than 50. I know I go there all the time. Puff Puff!

My mother-in-law (while she was still alive) turned down the job of anti-christ because it was not challenging enough & it would have diverted her attention away from tormenting me, specifically.

Not sure of her position, now that she is on the other side...

re: #24 solomonpanting

Can't I just eat in my Waffle House?

A Waffle House is a bit cramped and open for conspiratorial conversation.

Soros is worth money, maybe this guy is worth money, so what? Crazy is as crazy does. Funny thing about the socialists is that they are such narrow materialists that they cannot understand that conservative capitalists are motivated by more than money. It angers them that the US is rich and powerful. They persist in believing that our moral and spiritual focus and extensive philanthropy is some kid of elaborate cover operation. This guy may have been wealthy, he may have been a card carrying Republican for all I know but his selfish disregard for public safety and the established and orderly process of government is more in keeping with the radical left.

re: #26 Dianna

How serious a threat is someone who discusses his plan in a breakfast restaurant? I mean, I've overheard some really odd stuff in restaurants, though not a plan for assassinating a presidential candidate.

I think its like talking about a knife or a bomb in an airport. You just don`t do it and if you do, you earn a trip downtown for an interview at the very least.

re: #7 Charles

This is why the Antichrist crap is incredibly dangerous.

Yes, it's dangerous on at least two levels. First, there are the loony-tunes who really tend to believe such things. Thankfully, they are very few and far between. Second, the MSM is anxious to portray these insane sentiments as widespread in the Christian and the Conservative communities. Thus, opposition to Obama is a clear and present danger, from both racists and "Christianists."

All threats to any President (or in this case, a presumptive nominee) are taken seriously by the Secret Service.

re: #21 kahall

So how did this even get started? I had one of the "kids" at work tell me they heard that he was as well. I was all WTF?

This sort of stuff wanders the internet via those emails you get that you read and wonder who passes this stuff on.

The problem is, there's always some soul on the edge, and it resonates with something in his head.

All this country needs is a martyred Obama.

No thanks.

re: #22 ploome hineni

accountants are wierd

I was an accounting major, trust me when I say they are crooks and cheaters too.

re: #8 rawmuse

Because we do not endorse political assassins, for starters.

We?

re: #22 ploome hineni

It's the fault of the accrual method, I swear.

George Clooney plans to film story of Bin Laden's driver

Clooney's production company, Smokehouse, has bought the rights to a book about Salim Hamdan, an inmate at Guantánamo Bay who last week was sentenced to jail for his role in helping the al-Qaeda leader. The book, The Challenge, is by journalist Jonathan Mahler and tells the story of Hamdan's capture and trial, defended by a US navy lawyer, Lieutenant Commander Charles Swift. It has had a big critical success.

Oh boy, time served, fame and fortune.

/who says terrorism doesn't pay?

I think I've identified the
REAL ANTICHRIST

re: #27 kahall

This weird stuff happens at the Waffle House for one reason only. You can still smoke in them. At least around here since they seat less than 50. I know I go there all the time. Puff Puff!

Aren't they also open 24/7? Most diners around the Twin Cites don't do that anymore. (Damn the urban thugs!)

Everybody's always the anti-Christ. What about the Beast, the False Prophet, and the Whore of Babylon? They don't get any respect. ;)

re: #31 tokyobk

Oh, agreed. It's just so monumentally stupid, I have a problem taking it seriously.

I read that as "Osama" at first, and didn't quite get the outrage.

Never mind. Got the right non-Muslim now.

Actually people are making a big deal that the 2IC for the Obamacon is a guy called Mabus .. which is EXACTLY what Nostradamus quoted in the Quatrains.

Spooky.

booga booga

re: #37 kansas

Dude? We? Cmon. Splain.

re: #40 jcm

I think I've identified the
REAL ANTICHRIST

No, I am pretty sure it is the Teletubbies.

Fame

re: #28 slokat

My mother-in-law (while she was still alive) turned down the job of anti-christ because it was not challenging enough & it would have diverted her attention away from tormenting me, specifically.

Not sure of her position, now that she is on the other side...

Ruling in Hell?

Charles -

Speaking of revelations, remember the "Four Horsemen of the Ablogalypse?"

re: #40 jcm

nope, doesn't look a thing like my mother-in-law (did)...

/

Was there this much assassination talk during the two elections for Bush?

re: #33 rawmuse

And they ought to be. The worst thing in the world would be to dismiss the one that is actually put into practice.

Before spewing that stupid crap...he could have at least given me a couple mil...he's not going to need it where he's going.

re: #40 jcm

I think I've identified the
REAL ANTICHRIST

Okay, now I must declare jihad on you for bringing back that memory.

Wow - this is weriod - I've eaten in that pancake house two weeks ago!
And I gotta say if an accountant in his mid to late 40's or so (he has two teenage daughters, so that's just a guess on my part) has $50 million bucks, he either inherited a lot of dough, hit the Powerball or his clients had best check their accounts really closely.
And while I agree with Charles in #19 on banning it out here, it's not clear or certain that he said that and frankly I think he's a real nut-job from the description given of him in that coverage.

re: #39 Killian Bundy

Go for it Clooney. I love to see fools and their money parted. This will be the, what, 800th anti-war movie to lose money?

/why are the pretty ones always insane?
--Chief Wiggum, the Simpsons

re: #44 DirtyDog

I read that as "Osama" at first, and didn't quite get the outrage.

Never mind. Got the right non-Muslim Buddhist now.

Fixed.

I seriously doubt this guy is worth 50 mil, but he's definitely a kook.

re: #30 lifeofthemind

And the delusion that an act of assassination would have a positive effect.

re: #49 The Other Les

Ruling in Hell?

A distinct possibility!

/lol

re: #46 kansas

Dude? We? Cmon. Splain.

As opposed to the Kos Kids, where they not only do it, but they make movies about it.

re: #53 imtoast

Was there this much assassination talk during the two elections for Bush?

As I recall, yes.

Yes, he's nuts. No, he doesn't represent all of Christiandom. He certainly doesn't represent me. There are all kinds of beliefs and fools who would act on them in a dangerous manner. Thank God this man was caught before he did something disastrous. Get over it.

re: #52 slokat

nope, doesn't look a thing like my mother-in-law (did)...

/

LOL!
Gotta go take the grand kids to see mine tomorrow.

re: #53 imtoast

In some parts, yes.

re: #27 kahall

This weird stuff happens at the Waffle House for one reason only. You can still smoke in them. At least around here since they seat less than 50. I know I go there all the time. Puff Puff!

So it was the nicotine talking?

re: #45 Buster Bunny

Oh, not bloody Michel again! I have a copy of the Centuries, and I'm not afraid to use it!

My barber thinks Obama might possibly be a closet terrorist.

/hell if I was going to tell him that's ridiculous

re: #43 Dianna

Oh, agreed. It's just so monumentally stupid, I have a problem taking it seriously.

I am sure there are 100 or 1000 snap-talkers fro every 1 who could and would actually do something, but it is a good start to round those up as well.

I used to see Joe Liberman having his morning coffee in a local New Haven place all the time, before he was VP for Gore during their run but still a prominent senator. I was always proud that he felt ok to do that and nothing ever happened.

re: #53 imtoast I don't remember as much in 2000, but I recall there was more of it - directed at Bush - in 2004. Hell there was more of it just on Kos in 2004 than there has been so far in this election cycle.

re: #46 kansas

The attitude at Kos at assassination fantasies was rather positive. Here, it's reacted to...negatively.

Mentally ill people will accept programming from the media. Some of them will talk about it as if it is normal conversation and are looking for validation. A very few will act on it. Mentally ill people are for the most part harmless. The violent ones usually are culled out of the population after a few epidsodes in public.

I am concerned about the media glorifying people like these campus killers. And generating copy cats. A moral lesson needs to be attached to the media message for those that are caught. They should never have their pictures shown. And should essentially become a number someplace restrictive.

1. Threatener is mentally ill and has been hospitalized and is under observation and treatment.
2. Domestic abuser is violent and is being forced to address his cowardice and lack of tolerance in a controlled environment.

The fact that he was caught shows that the secret service is taking everything seriously.

re: #63 rawmuse

As opposed to the Kos Kids, where they not only do it, but they make movies about it.

In other words some poor schmuck is going to jail for what is on Kos pretty much daily?

Went to a friend's bridal shower today. It was outdoors in Texas, and a nice surprise my body gave me a couple months back was migraines. I betetr be off to bed before I get another one.

Weet dreams

re: #51 karmic_inquisitor

Charles -

Speaking of revelations, remember the "Four Horsemen of the Ablogalypse?"

Are they teaming back up for a reunion tour?

I went to see their last concert in 1986 .. brilliant.

Remember the music vid from Madonna (?) with a grenade landing in Bush's lap right before the final cut to black?

re: #40 jcm

I think I've identified the
REAL ANTICHRIST

I thought it was Yoko Ono.

How about Putin for antiChrist?

Take a look at Powerline, on both Georgia, and Obama. This on Georgia, Pravda trots out a little antisemitism for the occassion (as for all occassions):

Russia: Again Savior of Peace and Life:

The international community collectively held their breath waiting for the reaction of Russia after the savage, brutal, criminal attack by Georgia on South Ossetia. After having offered a cease fire in hostilities, the back stabbing Georgians immediately violated the cease fire, invading South Ossetia and causing massive destruction and death among innocent civilians, among peacekeepers and also destroying a hospital. ...
Georgian troops attempted to storm the city [Tskhinval] much as Hitler‘s Panzer divisions blazed through Europe. Also noteworthy is the fact that Georgian tanks and infantry were being aided by Israeli advisors, a true indicator that this conflict was instigated by outside forces. ...

And this on Obama:

...
It is often said that Obama is not ready to be President, but I don't think this is exactly right. It seems pretty obvious that Obama, given his temperament, his self-regard, his blithe ignorance of history and of the material conditions of life on this planet, will never be ready to be President. He is not unready: he is unsuited for, and inadequate to, the office.

re: #53 imtoast

Huge amounts.

Vast right wing conspiracy.

re: #70 Killian Bundy

My barber thinks Obama might possibly be a closet terrorist.

/hell if I was going to tell him that's ridiculous

Yeah, and have him screw up your haircut?

re: #73 Dianna

The attitude at Kos at assassination fantasies was rather positive. Here, it's reacted to...negatively.

Not sure how my remark about the moron with the threats was taken to mean that LGF was involved at all.

“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” ~ Isaac Asimov

Thinking about it for a moment, I think the appropriate response to anyone who says Obama is the anti-Christ is to point out that he is, in fact, the anti-Reagan.

He wants : Bigger government, more taxes, a smaller military, and he wants to de-industrialize.

The coming of the anti-Reagan should worry us more.

re: #83 Ward Cleaver

Yeah, and have him screw up your haircut?

/hey, if it keeps Obama out of the White House . . .

re: #64 RememberSekhmet?

As I recall, yes.

Thanks, I just can't seem to remember much past yesterday.

re: #75 kansas

In other words some poor schmuck is going to jail for what is on Kos pretty much daily?

This "poor schmuck" is in trouble because he publicly threatened the life of a presidential candidate.

re: #68 Ward Cleaver

Not in my worst nicotine fits!

re: #27 kahall

This weird stuff happens at the Waffle House for one reason only. You can still smoke in them. At least around here since they seat less than 50. I know I go there all the time. Puff Puff!

Don't be silly! It's not smoking that makes people homicidal maniacs.
It's the withdrawal!

re: #85 RedPepper

Phooey on Asimov.

Violence is the first resort of those who know their "tolerance" will be played like a fiddle.

Think Saddam Hussein.

re: #66 jcm

LOL!
Gotta go take the grand kids to see mine tomorrow.

I met my mother & father in-law for the first time at the wedding rehearsal... I am convinced that I would have harbored serious concerns if I had met them prior to that...

Anyhow, the last two years of her life, she was suffering from dementia and forgot how much she disliked me, that was a pleasant respite.

re: #86 karmic_inquisitor

There is nothing i could say about demeaning Obama than what he has already said himself. As such i refuse to be associated with him.

re: #75 kansas

OK, for the last time, I will type slowly, for your benefit.
It is illegal to threaten violence on political figures in the US of A (even the ones you think richly deserve it).
IF you do so, and IF you do it either spoken, or in print, or on line, you WILL become the object of attention from Law Enforcement, in some form or other.
This guy was rather far down that road.

re: #89 Charles

This "poor schmuck" is in trouble because he publicly threatened the life of a presidential candidate.

And this doesn't happen on Kos?

re: #95 rawmuse

OK, for the last time, I will type slowly, for your benefit.
It is illegal to threaten violence on political figures in the US of A (even the ones you think richly deserve it).
IF you do so, and IF you do it either spoken, or in print, or on line, you WILL become the object of attention from Law Enforcement, in some form or other.
This guy was rather far down that road.

WTF? Like I don't know that.

re: #75 kansas

I'd really rather the secret service took it seriously than have an assassination. Really. Emphatically, even.

The "shmuck" should never have voiced such a threat, and he deserves the consequences.

re: #96 kansas

And this doesn't happen on Kos?

Words versus actions. Its one thing to think it, another to go into the planning stages for it.

Nut jobs abound, the Obamessiah walks on water. Nothing to fear hear people, move along now.

re: #98 Dianna

I'd really rather the secret service took it seriously than have an assassination. Really. Emphatically, even.

The "shmuck" should never have voiced such a threat, and he deserves the consequences.

Whatever. I'm going to bed.

re: #84 kansas

You kept asking "we?"

I hoped I answered your question.

The court documents also show Blanchard's friends and family told Secret Service agents he suffered head injuries that caused mental health and alcohol problems.

Head injuries? An accountant? Did he try to balance Enron's books?

re: #100 justgrowup

Nut jobs abound, the Obamessiah walks on water. Nothing to fear hear people, move along now.

That must make bathing a difficult experience.

re: #96 kansas

Probably where it does happen on KoS the Secret Service takes note of it. And will Fisa them with the help of Markos.

re: #103 solomonpanting

The court documents also show Blanchard's friends and family told Secret Service agents he suffered head injuries that caused mental health and alcohol problems.

Head injuries? An accountant? Did he try to balance Enron's books?

No, but I think he worked on mine.

re: #96 kansas

And this doesn't happen on Kos?

I think on Kos it's more wishful thinking on their part, rather than direct threats.

re: #97 kansas

WTF? Like I don't know that.

Sorry, there is much that I think that you don't know.

re: #85 RedPepper

I always felt that Azimov was more than a little off-base with that one.

I don't give Obama enough credit for that lofty title.

re: #91 wolfie

Don't be silly! It's not smoking that makes people homicidal maniacs.
It's the withdrawal!

And, btw, you can't smoke at that waffle house, either. Or at any other food service establishment in Mecklenberg county (home to Charlotte, Pineville and other places!).

re: #108 rawmuse

Sorry, there is much that I think that you don't know.

Fuck you you asshole.

re: #92 victor_yugo

Think Saddam Hussein.

Not sure I get your point.

Are you saying Saddam was not incompetent?

If so, you forgot your /sarc tag ...

re: #103 solomonpanting

Head injuries cause alcohol problems?

On topic with nuts and religiously motivated violence.

I have been studying the average attitude of Japanese about Islam and terrorism by talking to friends, clients and acquaintances, watching the local news and looking at what magazines write and what is in local libraries.

Basically the attitude was typical MSM; religion of peace hijacked by a minority, actions motivated by poverty, not really about religion. All the canards.

The recent bombing in China changed all that, at least the common attitudes I have heard and what is on the news. The news is saying that the bombing of policemen in China is part of a religiously motivated global jihad rooted in Islamic doctrine. Several people who four years ago thought I was "Islamophobic" for actuyally having read the Koran, Hadith and understood the Sunnah and its connection to current events, have effectively apologized to me after this recent attack and its stated motivations which have been repeated, without whitewash in the media here.

Japan also often contextualized terror with the serin gas attacks since that was a horrific event done by crazies that people could relate to.

re: #110 Mich-again

I don't give Obama enough credit for that lofty title.

He's more like a two-bit imitation of the anti-Christ.

re: #114 wolfie

Head injuries cause alcohol problems?

Self Medication. also happens with pain pills

Let's all calm down.

re: #7 Charles

This is why the Antichrist crap is incredibly dangerous.

I'll submit that the unthinking hatred for Senator Obama is about as dangerous as the unthinking adoration of the same man. Of course, in this case, the threat is personal and the expressed sentiment is criminal. This fellow has much more in common with the radical, bring-it-all-down, Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers (friends of Obama, by his own account) left wing than he does with anybody this side of Pat Buchanan. How long have we been treated to the far-end BDS mantras about torturing or killing Bush, Cheney, et al?
I'm glad the Secret Service nabbed this fruitcake. I'm also glad that he apparently hated President Bush to a comparable degree--that helps pre-empt the media's obvious line of attack in the coverage.

re: #99 Buster Bunny

The subject of the article hadn't gone beyond talk. However, it was reported, and he's suffering the consequences of delusional, loud-mouthed stupidity.

As he very well should.

I don't think talk of assassination is cool, or clever.

re: #112 kansas

Nice vocabulary. It is sad when cousins marry.

re: #113 RedPepper

Not sure I get your point.

Are you saying Saddam was not incompetent?

If so, you forgot your /sarc tag ...

I think you're mis-reading what I said.

Saddam used the world's "patience" to wreak more havoc within his own borders, while he supported (at varying levels) jihadis and the like outside Iraq.

Had violence been the first resort against Saddam, rather than the last, the people of Iraq might have had freedom a lot sooner.

re: #24 solomonpanting

waffle=obama? So how did he end up in a waffle house--did he take this as some sort of sign from God? Trying to sort out the mind of a fanatic isn't easy.

re: #107 Ward Cleaver

Their constant fantasies probably kept the secret service up nights, though.

re: #85 RedPepper

“Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” ~ Isaac Asimov

Violence is the first resort of those who would rescue you from evil men.

re: #121 rawmuse

Nice vocabulary. It is sad when cousins marry.

Vocab is pretty simple really. Need instructions?

re: #115 tokyobk

On topic with nuts and religiously motivated violence.

Japan also often contextualized terror with the serin gas attacks since that was a horrific event done by crazies that people could relate to.

Japan exists with the current terrorism phenomena largely outside their sphere of reference. It is not because they dont know about it, but as their society is still largely an 'honor' based one, the actions of lunatics are a bit beyond them. Even though they are still only 60 years aways from their own 'ideological' rampage, they just arent holding a complete reference to the Middle East. And they exist badly informed.

re: #114 wolfie

Sometimes. It's very sad. People begin drinking after head injuries for reasons not always clear to those around them.

#104, ever notice how his sleeves are always rolled up to his elbows? it's the only part that does not float.

There was Diary entry on Kos last week that blamed the McCain ad called, The One, in feeding the belief that Obama was the Anti-Christ.

Here's part:

"Is John McCain comparing Barack Obama to the anti-Christ?...

...Is there a real danger that right-wing voters will make the correlation that McCain seems to be implying, that Obama is a messianic leader? That he is a false messiah? That Barack Hussein Obama is actually the anti-Christ?

While he is accusing Obama of using the race card, is he sneaking the ultimate fear card through the back door? How far of a stretch is it for fundamentalist Americans to truly believe that a black liberal with a Muslim name could be the spawn of Satan himself?

Having read the initial book in this series myself and living in the heart of the bible belt, I know the unfortunate truth. Many ultra right wingers have already been preying upon this fear. Now, with this new attack, McCain seems to be attempting to feed that monster....

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

re: #111 realwest

And, btw, you can't smoke at that waffle house, either. Or at any other food service establishment in Mecklenberg county (home to Charlotte, Pineville and other places!).

Dang those blasted, no-good carbetbaggers!

Oh. ......oops
Well, YOU aren't blasted or no-good!

re: #126 kansas

Vocab is pretty simple really. Need instructions?

I`ll bet if you two met in person, you would be friends and enjoying a beverage together in no time. This is LGF. Just relax.

Only sayin cause I hate when people call me names here. It is so Kos.

re: #126 kansas

Vocab is pretty simple really. Need instructions?

Here's one for you:

Get a spell-checker.

I have long been an aficionado of Waffle House. Had a killer breakfast at the one in Howland OH last weekend. I like my hash browns scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chopped.

Okay. It's pretty obvious someone's elevator does not go to the top floor.

Unless, of course, there is this ancient mosaic in the middle east showing the anti-Christ and it bears an uncanny resemblance to... Nah.

re: #125 MajorPribluda

Violence is the first resort of those who would rescue you from evil men.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
-- George Orwell

re: #133 victor_yugo

Here's one for you:

Get a spell-checker.

Give me an example of improper spelling.

re: #115 tokyobk

Very interesting, tokyobk.

re: #126 kansas

You were being deliberately obtuse after people tried to explain to you the difference and division.

Like the subject of this thread, you have brought the unpleasant consequences upon yourself. On your own head be it.

Now, you said you were going to bed?

re: #133 victor_yugo

Here's one for you:

Get a spell-checker.

I don't think spell checker is hyphenated.

re: #127 Buster Bunny

Japan exists with the current terrorism phenomena largely outside their sphere of reference. It is not because they dont know about it, but as their society is still largely an 'honor' based one, the actions of lunatics are a bit beyond them. Even though they are still only 60 years aways from their own 'ideological' rampage, they just arent holding a complete reference to the Middle East. And they exist badly informed.

I agree.

Though they are also the worlds best example that when you go to war with state religions, you war until they have no hope of clinging to the last burned shred of their whackiness. This is what the bombs meant, ditto the firebombing of Tokyo.

This war will come at some point to Islam because the moderate minded people will not reign in the crazies and the crazies will have to be shown that their fantasies are just that.

re: #126 kansas

Learn to spell, first. Charles even dropped a spell checker.
I do not communicate well with the mentally impaired, and you certainly qualify. In reading your last 25 comments, it appears that you are a hostile little twit with a potty mouth.
So go pick a fight with someone your size, because this one is not fair. To you.

Rawmuse - I'm up in SF wednesday night / thursday... dropping my daughter off at her flight to Germany.

Olympics in a totalitarian country. Jihadi attacks against that totalitarian country. A democratic convention coming up, where protestors have vowed to "Re-Create 68." A fascist Russia attacking its neighbors. The world standing idly by while Iran's centrifuges spin.

Forget the end times--this is life as it is now, and it's icky.

/I think the preparedness bunker needs re-organizing.

re: #130 MJ

I think that diarist is an idiot.

However, I live in California, where running into every possible variety of kook has possibly made me less than respectful of lunacy.

re: #136 jcm

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
-- George Orwell

Not quite, sorry.

re: #131 wolfie And since I was born in North Carolina I ain't no carpetbagger, neither!

re: #119 MajorPribluda

I'm glad the Secret Service nabbed this fruitcake. I'm also glad that he apparently hated President Bush to a comparable degree--that helps pre-empt the media's obvious line of attack in the coverage.

You're mistaken. The one who also made threats against President Bush was a different person.

re: #122 victor_yugo

Thanks for the clarification. FWIW, I agree.

Perhaps Asimov could have phrased it better; as, “Initiating (v)iolence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” ~ Isaac Asimov

Or perhaps you'd prefer the Will Smith character in the film Independence Day : “Don't start no shit, won't be no shit !”

I hope I'm not the only one in here who, despite Kansas' unfortunate description of the accused as a "poor schmuck", agrees that there have been many actionable statements made over there, over which not a finger appears to have been raised?

re: #134 Mich-again

I have no idea what that description of hash browns means, but it sounds good.

Enjoy!

re: #137 cutestguy

Currently, more than 2,466,000 divinities are enshrined here at Yasukuni Shrine. These are souls of men who made ultimate sacrifice for their nation since 1853 during national crises such as the Boshin War, the Seinan War, the Sino-Japanese and Russo-Japanese wars, World War I, the Manchurian Incident, the China Incident and the Greater East Asian War (World War II). These people, regardless of their rank or social standing, are considered to be completely equal and worshipped as venerable divinities of Yasukuni.

From the Yasukini Shrine Website

re: #138 kansas

Quote your #126 and do it yourself. I won't spoon-feed you. You're not a baby, even if you do act like one.

re: #108 rawmuse

Sorry, there is much that I think that you don't know.

Not necessary.

BTW...OT: Pretty decent time line of the Georgia Russia crap show. From Reuters no less. It shows a pretty clear trend of Russian malfeasance.

There must not be any assassination. The thing would echo down the ages. What's more, consider who's waiting in the wings if anything were to happen to Obama. Not a big improvement, eh?

re: #147 victor_yugo

Not quite, sorry.

Ah, well I always thought it a bit out of character but never ran it down.

OT

You know, the problem with watchin' womens' volleyball is it's so easy to loose track of the score.

re: #140 Dianna

You were being deliberately obtuse after people tried to explain to you the difference and division.

Like the subject of this thread, you have brought the unpleasant consequences upon yourself. On your own head be it.

Now, you said you were going to bed?

Well I was but I kept reading for a bit and noted that ole Rawmuse was feeling more intelligent than everyone else. And you.
On your own head be it? Jeez. I must have entered an alternate reality. Nobody explained shit to me, and it seems to me my intial comment was purposely mischaracterized.

re: #151 MajorPribluda

Writing hateful emails does get investigated. Buying guns and saying over breakfast what you intend to do with them is actionable. Even kids with email accounts get visits from the Secret Service and FBI. Sometimes a phone call to the parents does the trick.

re: #137 cutestguy
"Might be why there hasn't been any terrorist actions on Japanese soil."
What about that Sarin (sp?) gas attack on the Tokyo subways a few years back (before 9/11)?
Let's face it, there are dangerous whackos and cultists and cult leaders EVERYWHERE - they know no "real" religion or geographic boundaries.

OT: How goes the fast?

re: #159 calcajun

OT

You know, the problem with watchin' womens' volleyball is it's so easy to loose track of the score.

amen...wardrobe malfunction.

re: #159 calcajun

OT

You know, the problem with watchin' womens' volleyball is it's so easy to loose track of the score.

Wasn't that the previous topic?

re: #151 MajorPribluda

We don't know that. I suspect the fact that most Kossites would sooner cut off their dominant hand than buy a gun and practice with it kept arrests from being made.

That doesn't mean the secret service wasn't paying attention.

re: #148 realwest

And since I was born in North Carolina I ain't no carpetbagger, neither!

Oh, my goodness!
My deepest apologies!
I thought you were originally from New York!

..........not that there's anything wrong with it!

re: #137 cutestguy

Those jihadis wouldn't have a chance against the Bushido mindset. Might be why there hasn't been any terrorist actions on Japanese soil.

I doubt we completely extinguished the Emperor as Living God mindset.

Sorry, gotta disagree there. Bushido now only exists in Japan in business, and in protests against Americans. Which is just as well, as IMHO, it was never all that it was cracked up to be. Our (American) experience with "Bushido" was a thin veneer of tradition applied to a putrid core of asian fascism. And if you want to make any bad thing worse, just add the adjective "asian" to it.
Asian Communism. Asian Communism. Asian traffic jams.

re: #156 kevinmumaw

I'm sitting with someone in my family room who thinks Georgia provoked it.

re: #143 rawmuse

Learn to spell, first. Charles even dropped a spell checker.
I do not communicate well with the mentally impaired, and you certainly qualify. In reading your last 25 comments, it appears that you are a hostile little twit with a potty mouth.
So go pick a fight with someone your size, because this one is not fair. To you.

re: #133 victor_yugo

Here's one for you:

Get a spell-checker.

Why?

re: #152 Dianna

I mispoke a bit there. I got chopped mixed up with chunked. Here is the real rundown of options.

The waitresses use diner lingo to call in orders, and the menu suggests the use of the same lingo when placing orders for hashed brown potatoes: "scattered" (spread on the grill), "smothered" (with onions), "covered" (with cheese), "chunked" (with diced ham), "diced" (with diced tomatoes), "peppered" (with jalapeño peppers), "capped" (with mushrooms), "topped" (with chili) and "all the way" (with all available toppings).[

re: #151 MajorPribluda

I hope I'm not the only one in here who, despite Kansas' unfortunate description of the accused as a "poor schmuck", agrees that there have been many actionable statements made over there, over which not a finger appears to have been raised?

Thank you -- my thoughts exactly. My understanding is that you cannot make even verbal threats on the life of the president without being investigated. I think that was Kansas' point, so not sure why so many here jumped on the bandwagon to hurl nasty insults. Of course there is a difference between blowing hot air and having plans, but blowing hot air is ALSO investigatable, is it not? I have a friend whose retarded adolescent son called the White House and made a threat, and the very next day, two FBI agents showed up at her home.

There is NO EXCUSE for threatening a presidential candidate, and it does not matter what goes on at Daily Kos in this context. Give me a break. Are you people serious?

re: #164 jorline

Wilson: You watch "The L Word?"
House: Yeah. On 'Mute".

re: #149 Charles

You're mistaken. The one who also made threats against President Bush was a different person.

Good grief--I'm hopelessly out of touch. Loks liek I have some reading to catch up on. Halp us Jon Cary!

Thanks.

re: #156 kevinmumaw

Great summary. Thanks.

re: #169 Dianna

I'm sitting with someone in my family room who thinks Georgia provoked it.

You gonna go punch "somebody" in the jaw and argue over who provoked it? :-)

re: #160 kansas

Nonsense.

A number of people responded, clearly - and at least one with a good link - to your question, "We? What?"

So now you are being dishonest, or you are very confused. How about you drop it?

Sorry to join this discussion so late, and I've had too much very fine Port to read all the antecedent posts, but do we know that this is a plant or not? BHO would relish in the attention an "attempt" would add to his persona. I call 24 hr rule, if we'd ever fine out the truth.

re: #161 rawmuse
You know, I was thinking the same thing, but given the manpower limitations (and NO, I don't know what they are, but there are clearly limitations on the number of agents of both the Secret Service and the FBI, I've always wondered just how they can figure out - from e-mails, telephone calls and what not, just who to go "see".I mean, cripes, iirc, Charles' has had two phone calls from the FBI, instigated by CAIR or someone like that, either because he takes a strong stand on Islamofascists or some comments out here caused him to get grief from the FBI.

re: #174 Charles

Am in total agreement. The man is either deranged or a pathetic, attention-seeking twit. In either event, there is no justifiable reason for threatening to kill a political candidate.

re: #157 lostlakehiker

There must not be any assassination. The thing would echo down the ages. What's more, consider who's waiting in the wings if anything were to happen to Obama. Not a big improvement, eh?

Assassination is the utter negation of the will of the people. If the people vote in Obama, I'll be appalled and horrified, but I'll respect that decision. Assassination is the act of one person deciding he or she knows better than the American people. As divided as things are now, there may be more people who have the desire to negate the will of the people, and they must be dealt with forcefully by the law.

re: #173 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Thank you -- my thoughts exactly. My understanding is that you cannot make even verbal threats on the life of the president without being investigated. I think that was Kansas' point, so not sure why so many here jumped on the bandwagon to hurl nasty insults. Of course there is a difference between blowing hot air and having plans, but blowing hot air is ALSO investigatable, is it not? I have a friend whose retarded adolescent son called the White House and made a threat, and the very next day, two FBI agents showed up at her home.

Thank you. In spite of some typos, I was trying to make a fairly benign point.

re: #153 JHW

From the Yasukini Shrine Website

For me, the most interesting comparisons between the Pacific War and the War on terror are

1) How after the Meiji Restoration, Shinto was made into the official religion, ending a millennium, of synthetic harmony between that faith and Buddhism, as well as symbiotic anti-Christian sentiment at a level not seen since the beginning of the Shogunate.

2) How the Allies led by America led by MacArthur dealt with this state sanctioned religion. almost as Ataturk dealt with Islam, leaving the flavor but destroying the structure and the ambition. And destroying means leaving not even a speck of possibility for its revival and making its claims to truth the stuff of ridicule.

When Islam is turned from what it is, a total creed with universalist dominating aspirations, into a lifestyle choice with implications only in the home and for holidays, it will be safe just as Japan is now safe.

re: #175 calcajun

Wilson: You watch "The L Word?"
House: Yeah. On 'Mute".

Greatest show on television. I've got a serious crush on Hugh Laurie.

re: #174 Charles

Agreed completely. There is no excuse under any circumstances.

re: #174 Charles

There is NO EXCUSE for threatening a presidential candidate, and it does not matter what goes on at Daily Kos in this context. Give me a break. Are you people serious?

Charles, that is NOT the point. No one is arguing that we should be able to threaten Obama's life just because Kos kids threaten President Bush as a matter of routine. God forbid. We are not like that anyway. What some of us are wondering is why Kos kids do so without impunity. Is that so hard to understand? It's a FAIR QUESTION.

re: #166 Dianna

That doesn't mean the secret service wasn't paying attention.

Agreed. I considered that and added "apparently". But while I think that your point is likely true, we can only go on the evidence presented.

re: #172 Mich-again

Oooh!

re: #164 jorline Hello my friend! I didn't even know they kept score in Woman's volleyball!

re: #182 realwest

They are hiring, yes. I know. They have my app and I am under consideration. I have completed 2 background checks and 2 interviews.

re: #179 MajorPribluda

He's a guest, and my Male's best friend.

'Nuff said, don't you think?

re: #189 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Thank you so much.

re: #174 Charles

There is NO EXCUSE for threatening a presidential candidate, and it does not matter what goes on at Daily Kos in this context. Give me a break. Are you people serious?

To advocate or excuse the act of assassination is the explicitly reject the principle of consent in the sphere of politics. This simply cannot be tolerated under any circumstances.

re: #181 Russkilitlover

It would be nice to believe in a deep-laid plot, but evidently this man has suffered a head injury. I don't believe this is a plant, though I do question the timing of two nut-jobs in two days.

re: #189 American Jewess In Jerusalem

We don't do it because it is wrong. They do it because they feel empowered by making the threat. It makes them feel that they have some power-some strength when the vast majority of them are impotent in their ability to act on their political impulses.

re: #189 American Jewess In Jerusalem How do you know they do so with impunity?
Could certainly be that they get investigated too.

re: #174 Charles

There is NO EXCUSE for threatening a presidential candidate, and it does not matter what goes on at Daily Kos in this context. Give me a break. Are you people serious?

Can only speak for myself here, but I agree one hundred percent. In putting one foot down, I do not lift the other.

re: #189 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Charles, that is NOT the point. No one is arguing that we should be able to threaten Obama's life just because Kos kids threaten President Bush as a matter of routine. God forbid. We are not like that anyway. What some of us are wondering is why Kos kids do so without impunity. Is that so hard to understand? It's a FAIR QUESTION.

Who said they don't get investigated? Kansas?
It is simply not true. They are investigated, files are kept on the hostile parties. If such comments merit action, action is taken.

re: #192 realwest

I applied for the job of "sand boy"--you know the guy who wipes the sand off the players--but I was too old.

re: #189 American Jewess In Jerusalem

GRRRRR. That should be "with impunity."

re: #192 realwest

Hello my friend! I didn't even know they kept score in Woman's volleyball!

Good morning RW..it's like T'ball, who gives a flip about the score.

I hope you're well my friend.

re: #197 Dianna

Cherchez le....whomever!

Preview, as always is my friend.

To advocate or excuse the act of assassination is to explicitly reject the principle of consent in the sphere of politics. This simply cannot be tolerated under any circumstances.

re: #181 Russkilitlover

Sorry to join this discussion so late, and I've had too much very fine Port to read all the antecedent posts, but do we know that this is a plant or not? BHO would relish in the attention an "attempt" would add to his persona. I call 24 hr rule, if we'd ever fine out the truth.

I doubt that you'd need a plant. There are always nuts out there threatening to kill public figures who are featured prominently in the news.

re: #198 calcajun

We don't do it because it is wrong. They do it because they feel empowered by making the threat. It makes them feel that they have some power-some strength when the vast majority of them are impotent in their ability to act on their political impulses.

Yes, Calc, we understand the difference between us and them with regard to motivations. Not the point, however. Read my post again.

Ah. Must go walk my Akitas --or else risk have massive dumps in the nack yard. Night.

re: #205 Russkilitlover

Maybe it's because the moon's finishing its first quarter?

re: #201 rawmuse

Who said they don't get investigated? Kansas?
It is simply not true. They are investigated, files are kept on the hostile parties. If such comments merit action, action is taken.

Who are you? I said nothing like that, and in fact never said anything that I can see that got me whacked like this. Other than my invitation to you to have relations with yourself when you called me a twit. As I recall I was trying to point out that some guy got in trouble for pretty much what goes on at Kos all the time. I did not advocate it.

re: #209 calcajun

Ah. Must go walk my Akitas --or else risk have massive dumps in the nack yard. Night.

Yeah--better get those massive dumps in the neighbors' yards. :-)

re: #167 wolfie
That's ok wolfie - I've lived far more years in Manhattan or upper NY State than I have down here, and still consider New York City my "hometown."
Besides, where I live it's harder and harder to find someone who hasn't migrated from NY, NJ or NE!

re: #189 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Charles, that is NOT the point. No one is arguing that we should be able to threaten Obama's life just because Kos kids threaten President Bush as a matter of routine. God forbid. We are not like that anyway. What some of us are wondering is why Kos kids do so without impunity. Is that so hard to understand? It's a FAIR QUESTION.

And how do you know that Kos Kids do so with impunity? Are you privy to the Secret Service's operations?

re: #207 wolfie

The terrifying thing being when they carry out the threat.

It's good to take that sort of thing very seriously indeed!

re: #208 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Wanna respond but gotta go. Long day tomorrow. Night y'all.

re: #201 rawmuse

Who said they don't get investigated? Kansas?
It is simply not true. They are investigated, files are kept on the hostile parties. If such comments merit action, action is taken.

Well, I hope you are right. That FBI office must be hopping because there are thousands of wannabe assassins over at that website who need investigating.

re: #208 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Evidently Kansas didn't. That is why we're annoyed with it.

re: #186 tokyobk

Thank you, excellent points , worth reflecting on. I assume you're in Japan now, it's been many years since I've been there, I had the impression then that the Japanese weren't particularly religious but liked to retain some of the cultural aspects of it. I always remember visiting Kamakura , the Daibutsu, and noticing the great contrast between the way Japanese visitors and other Asian tourists treated their surroundings, The Thais in particular seemed to act like they were on sacred ground.

re: #207 wolfie

I doubt that you'd need a plant. There are always nuts out there threatening to kill public figures who are featured prominently in the news.

True, true, true! But watch the "play" in the MSM. Nutjob or not, BHO will use to his advantage and it will further proselytize his mind-numbed followers.

re: #211 kansas

Oh, go read your posts again!

Honestly!

re: #218 Dianna

Evidently Kansas didn't. That is why we're annoyed with it.

I don't think that purposely mistating what I have said makes what I think evident at all.

re: #214 Charles

And how do you know that Kos Kids do so with impunity? Are you privy to the Secret Service's operations?

My first thought: If the Secret Service demanded information from Kos, in order to track down the offending parties, we'd know about it when he started screaming "FISA! Damn you, Obama!"

Forget Kos. Just because you have a grouping place for nutcases doesnt meant you get any worth listening to.

Lets be real and realise Charles doesnt want any association with the bunch of fruitcakes that exist out there at the moment.

lets see how many i can name in a paragraph.

Elvis still being alive, 9-11 was an inside job, Blacks are the real Israelites, Iraq being for Oil, Aliens live amongst us and the goverment knows, Flat Earthists, Creationism, Moon landing was faked, JFK was shot by the mafia ....

There are more .. but they get nuttier from thereon in.

re: #221 Dianna

Oh, go read your posts again!

Honestly!

How about you just summarize what you understand my opinion to be and I can either say that's it or I was wrong.

re: #217 American Jewess In Jerusalem

"Making a terrorist threat" is a felony, at least in California. Making one on a political figure makes you a higher priority. All Law Enforcement happens according to priorities.

re: #222 cutestguy Uh, I don't honestly know, but we're always looking for good, new people to "come on down, y'hear!" LOL!

re: #223 kansas

Go and re-read your posts.

People responded honestly and with good intent to what seemed - at first - an honest question.

Your attitude has been unhelpful.

re: #196 The Other Les

To advocate or excuse the act of assassination is the explicitly reject the principle of consent in the sphere of politics. This simply cannot be tolerated under any circumstances.

I personally wouldn't mind it so much if a select few despots around the globe were offed. It would save more lives in the long run. What about Sheik Yassin? Was Israel wrong to kill him off?

re: #224 victor_yugo

He'd cooperate and never say a word about it to his web-site readers.

I would think internet traffic is monitored and then classified as to level of threat. I am not sure how the goverment pursues this. I assume just like in this case. Someone makes a threat. Someone reports it. If the report is deemed serious, then some investigative action is taken.

re: #214 Charles

And how do you know that Kos Kids do so with impunity? Are you privy to the Secret Service's operations?

This is hair-splitting, but impunity means without punishment, and I suspect that the slightest punishment would have evinced a great screech of agony from whomever got it over there.

/hair-splitting.

re: #229 Dianna

Go and re-read your posts.

People responded honestly and with good intent to what seemed - at first - an honest question.

Your attitude has been unhelpful.

You said that before. You have trouble briefly summarizing what you think I said, or you just want to pile on?

re: #226 kansas

Go re-read your posts.

I'm not responsible for your problems, you are.

re: #218 Dianna

Evidently Kansas didn't. That is why we're annoyed with it.

I'm sorry, but I don't see any "evidence" that Kansas was equating blowing hot air with making plans, only that he was wondering why blowing hot air is not ALSO investigated. I've been reassured by other posters, including Charles, that the FBI is likely keeping an eye on the Kos kiddles. That's great. I hope so. Meanwhile, there was no reason for people to get so nasty with Kansas right off the bat.

Sometimes there is a level of hair trigger aggression and backbiting here that is truly discouraging. Let's all try to give each other the benefit of the doubt. We are on the same side, aren't we?

re: #234 kansas

You said that before. You have trouble briefly summarizing what you think I said, or you just want to pile on?

I'll pile on.

You're a spoilt brat, and you have demonstrated it far better than any explanation I could attempt.

re: #235 Dianna

Go re-read your posts.

I'm not responsible for your problems, you are.

Pretty much admitting you want to just pile on then, huh?

re: #230 Mich-again

I personally wouldn't mind it so much if a select few despots around the globe were offed. It would save more lives in the long run. What about Sheik Yassin? Was Israel wrong to kill him off?

NO

re: #224 victor_yugo Well, iirc, didn't Kos himself write an article or diary or whatever that trash is over there, CONDEMNING Obama and the Democratic Party for, among other things but near or at the top of the list was they're failure in the FISA legislative fight? In fact I'm pretty sure Charles had a thread about it!

re: #238 victor_yugo

I'll pile on.

You're a spoilt brat, and you have demonstrated it far better than any explanation I could attempt.

Specifics please.

re: #234 kansas

No.

I'm really tired of you. You created your problem. Just go to bed and come back with a better attitude in the morning, because currently, I think you're a jerk.

re: #236 American Jewess In Jerusalem

I don't care about kansas!

re: #215 Dianna

The terrifying thing being when they carry out the threat.

It's good to take that sort of thing very seriously indeed!

Very seriously, indeed. if BHO becomes the President presumptive, any threat on his life/safety would have world-wide ramifications. He may be a moron, he may be a pawn, but he may also be such a symbol that any attempt would establish him as defacto "messiah." Underestimate nothing. His supporters nor his detractors. An historical nomination of any kind - gender, race, ethnicity, etc, could be a sitting duck for anyone chomping for a chance to make history.

I wish no harm to either BHO or McCain, however, this election is fraught with a lot of undertones. Worldwide. Not good times.

re: #236 American Jewess In Jerusalem

May I suggest a search of this page for the first occurrence of the F word.

He brought it on himself.

re: #230 Mich-again

I personally wouldn't mind it so much if a select few despots around the globe were offed. It would save more lives in the long run. What about Sheik Yassin? Was Israel wrong to kill him off?

I pretty much hold that anyone who rejects the principle of consent is fair game. I reject assassination in the society of consent.

re: #32 ErnieG

Yes, it's dangerous on at least two levels. First, there are the loony-tunes who really tend to believe such things. Thankfully, they are very few and far between. Second, the MSM is anxious to portray these insane sentiments as widespread in the Christian and the Conservative communities. Thus, opposition to Obama is a clear and present danger, from both racists and "Christianists."

On the other had, we should be very, very careful about labeling all Bible prophecy stuff as somehow crackpot. The Assemblies of God (one of the major Protestant denominations), for instance, has a literal 1000 year Reign of Christ (the Millennium) as one of their core beliefs. (It's item number 14 under Sixteen Fundamental Truths), and yes, they do believe in a literal Antichrist and a literal seven-year Tribulation. On the other hand, they also believe that we literally will not know who the Antichrist is until after the Church is Raptured out, and that therefore it is totally improper to predict who it is before that.

I bring that up only for the purpose of illustration, not to preach such beliefs. My aim here is not to start a discussion on End Time events.

I can understand Charles not wanting such matters discussed on this board, for the same reason he doesn't want abortion discussed here: because both are a major, MAJOR hot-potato issue. But I would assume he'd be wise enough to realize that End Time issues are absolutely part of the Christan mainstream, and are not just some crackpot, left-field fringe thing.

Very poorly and superficially understood end-times stuff, on the other hand, IS a majorly dangerous thing.

For that reason -- and I hope I am not offending him by saying this -- I would hope that Charles would walk a very thin tightrope when it comes to labeling End Times stuff "crap," because he might well unknowingly be offending a VERY large number of highly intelligent people, many of which are very much politically Conservative in their leanings and probably DO frequent this blog.

Again, I hope I have not offended him by saying the above, because I have a great deal of respect for him, and know that he is a very learned and wise individual, but sometimes even the wisest and most learned people have blind spots, things that they don't know that they don't know. Sorta like Zombie when s/he genuinely thought Walmart was some sort of Old West-themed curiosity shop.

The reason that the "Obama is the anti-christ" meme is so rampant isn't because of some ad for McCain... it predates that ad by many months.

It is spreading because Obama's campaign is saturated with quasi-religious overtones. There is a traveling revival show quality to his campaign, his followers have adopted a messianic view of him, complete with swooning, blind allegiance, and shunning of outsiders.

This is bound to strike responsive chords in many people -- many positive, but some negative.

I'm not claiming Obama deserves the anti-christ accusations, only that they are not triggered by any McCain ad. If people want to see accusations of the anti-christ in those ads, its because the idea was already in their heads... planted by the "Obama-as-Otherworldly" coverage of his candidacy.

re: #239 kansas

No.

I replied - politely! - with a summary answer for your "We? What?" query. Ever since, you have been remarkably badly behaved.

re: #220 Russkilitlover

True, true, true! But watch the "play" in the MSM. Nutjob or not, BHO will use to his advantage and it will further proselytize his mind-numbed followers.

I hope the MSM doesn't give it much play.
I hate it when they give these maniacs attention.
It just encourages copy cats.

re: #236 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Actually Jewess .. I dont mind a little backbiting in the LGF forums.

Often we talk about sensitive topics, that raise opinions and tempers. I dont mind listening to two sides of the story. Thats what a democracy is all about.

My worries are teflon presidents and the 'silence' that follows that.

Its the silence thats deafening.

re: #243 Dianna

No.

I'm really tired of you. You created your problem. Just go to bed and come back with a better attitude in the morning, because currently, I think you're a jerk.

So, let me summarize. I said that some guy was getting into big trouble for what pretty much is SOP at KOS. I have been called a twit, a brat, and a jerk, and not one of the name callers has been honest enough when asked to specify what it was that I said that made me a twit, jerk, or brat. Nice bunch.

re: #237 cutestguy
FORCE YOU to eat grits? My gosh, you are missing some fine food. Next thing is y'all are gonna tell me you don't like biscuits and gravy!

re: #242 kansas

Specifics please.

"But why, Mommy?!?"

The Secret Service has arrested nutcases for threatening President Bush before as well. Here is one instance from earlier this year.

Man arrested for threatening Bush near White House Now I don't care for that headline much. By leaving out the word President, it almost makes it sound like the guy did a lawn job.

re: #244 Dianna

I don't care about kansas!

Dorothy is gonna be SOOO upset with you!
;')

re: #246 victor_yugo

May I suggest a search of this page for the first occurrence of the F word.

He brought it on himself.

Oh so that's it, the first one to use the F word is the baddie? Even though one can be called a twit, jerk, and brat, and some others I don't want to scan back to.

re: #249 stevieray

I want to come back in a thousand years and see if the cult of Obama is still around.

re: #225 Buster Bunny

Watch it, Buster.
I'm VERY touchy about Elvis.

re: #248 NomadOfNorad

I can understand Charles not wanting such matters discussed on this board, for the same reason he doesn't want abortion discussed here: because both are a major, MAJOR hot-potato issue. But I would assume he'd be wise enough to realize that End Time issues are absolutely part of the Christan mainstream, and are not just some crackpot, left-field fringe thing.

This is utterly untrue. "End Times" delusions are completely on the fringe of Christianity, and anyone who tries to say otherwise is trying to push an agenda.

re: #254 realwest

FORCE YOU to eat grits? My gosh, you are missing some fine food. Next thing is y'all are gonna tell me you don't like biscuits and gravy!

RW, meet me at that Waffle House...you're making me hungry...both a staples here in TX.

re: #254 realwest

FORCE YOU to eat grits? My gosh, you are missing some fine food. Next thing is y'all are gonna tell me you don't like biscuits and gravy!

I don't recall ever eating grits. I do love biscuits and gravy.

re: #253 kansas

It really is not our fault that you are (by all evidence) clumsy with the written language, and therefore subject to being judged accordingly.