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1 Charles  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:35:51am

Last November, radio host Michael Medved became a Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

2 pat  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:35:59am

Let us see. Any thing going on in the world?

3 GoJeepGo  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:36:22am

Sunday morning drinking thread!

/perhaps I have a problem

4 Angel  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:36:57am

Zit afternoon already? :)

5 The Other Les  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:37:07am

Michael Medved is pretty darn boring on the talk radio.

6 pat  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:37:23am

re: #1 Charles

Last November, radio host Michael Medved became a Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Do you know Medved believes in Bigfoot? I find that fascinating.

7 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:38:29am

Every open thread is a unique snowflake.

8 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:39:20am

I worry Rush buys into the DI/Ben Stein stuff sometimes.

9 Tigger2005  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:39:21am

re: #6 pat

Do you know Medved believes in Bigfoot? I find that fascinating.

Hey now...I saw Bigfoot having lunch with Nessie, three small grey aliens, and Elvis at a local cafe last week.

10 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:39:37am

re: #6 pat I live in the Pacific Northwest, eastside of the cascades and I believe in Bigfoot. However I don't believe in the Discovery Institutes sanity.

11 Angel  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:40:18am

re: #7 DeathtotheSwiss


poetry this early?..wheres my hazelnut coffee dude? three sugars plz. :)
whats your nic mean btw if ya dont mind me askin u lil snowflake u?

12 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:41:19am

re: #10 pingjockey

I live in the Pacific Northwest, eastside of the cascades and I believe in Bigfoot. However I don't believe in the Discovery Institutes sanity.

I'm agnostic. I neither believe or disbelieve in Bigfoot. Though I think the Mothman being real is highly unlikely.

13 CapeCoddah  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:42:13am

Hi All, just posted this at the bottom of the last thread. Really funny article by Howie Carr on Edwards.
[Link: news.bostonherald.com...]

14 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:43:27am

re: #1 Charles

Speaking of your desire for this kind of particularity, you are a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute that studies and believes in Intelligent Design. How do you, as an Orthodox Jew, reconcile with this kind of generality - with the view of their being a hierarchy with a chief "designer" - while believing in and praying to a very specific God?

The important thing about Intelligent Design is that it is not a theory - which is something I think they need to make more clear. Nor is Intelligent Design an explanation. Intelligent Design is a challenge. It's a challenge to evolution. It does not replace evolution with something else.

The question is not whether it replaces evolution, but whether it replaces God.

No, you see, Intelligent Design doesn't tell you what is true; it tells you what is not true. It tells you that it cannot be that this whole process was random.

He's not very good with the talking points, is he?

15 DistantThunder  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:44:40am

Big thunderstorm here in the east in South Jersey. While at church, the electricity went out, and stayed out for the next 2 hours. I was in the middle of teaching a Sunday school class in the main chapel - and it was suddenly very dark. Luckily, my husband, who teaches survival and preparedness, lent me his little flashlight that he wears around his neck on a dog tag-like chain. It is about 1.5 inches, LED, and I used it to continue teaching the class.

We've been reading articles on EMP disasters and wondering how we would fair without anytime of electronic device for a long time - he's doubtful the generator would work. He's telling me that if we stored our supplies in a metal box, or even a wire mesh box, a faraday cage, that is ungrounded, it would intercept the EMP.

Most vehicles wouldn't work. Cars pre-1980 would work. Probably have to replace the coil with new ones. On those cars the starter, the alternator and the coil would have to be protected in a faraday cage before hand. A microwave oven is a faraday cage. An elevator can be a faraday cage.

16 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:44:43am

re: #11 Angel

poetry this early?..wheres my hazelnut coffee dude? three sugars plz. :)
whats your nic mean btw if ya dont mind me askin u lil snowflake u?

It's quite simple actually, when people ask me, "Why the Swiss?" I tell them, "Because, they'd never see it coming."

A million years ago when I first began using this nick over at moorewatch/moorelies I remember a Swiss speaking individual becoming extremely offended by the name and defending Swiss honor.

17 zombie  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:45:11am

I really wish Icould have seen this medal ceremony at the Olympics yesterday:

---------------

Shooting: Women's 10m air pistol (40 shots)

GOLD
Wenjun Guo, China

SILVER
Natalia Paderina, Russia

BRONZE
Nino Salukvadze, Georgia

---------------

In shooting, of all things!

Must have been a very uncomfortable scene! Thank god they were on either side of the podium, with the Gold Medalist in between them.

18 Angel  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:46:02am

re: #16 DeathtotheSwiss


"Because, they'd never see it coming."

We won't either my friend...at least some of us eh?

19 Shay4l  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:46:16am

Medved should stick to movie reviews. The only time I put on his program is when there is a commercial on every other one.

20 DistantThunder  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:46:48am

re: #1 Charles

Last November, radio host Michael Medved became a Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I sat behind Michael Medved on the floor of House of Representatives attending the World Congress of Families, an organizations that counterbalances organizations at the UN that are not pro-family.

21 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:48:07am

Russia says it is ready to negotiate with Georgia

UNITED NATIONS -- Russia declared itself ready to make peace with Georgia and U.N. officials confirmed Sunday that Georgia is prepared to negotiate with Russia by withdrawing troops from the breakaway province of South Ossetia and creating a safe travel zone.

/let's get a ceasefire in place before the markets open tomorrow

22 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:48:21am

re: #12 DeathtotheSwiss
Ha! Don't know about the mothman. Saw the Discover channel episode on it. That said I discount 90% of Bigfoot sightings as people seeing bears at a distance. It is the other 10% that get my interest. Trained biologists, Forest Service, life long hunters and fisherman. It does make me think. It is a felony in Wa. State to shoot a Bigfoot!

23 Tigger2005  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:48:21am
Speaking of your desire for this kind of particularity, you are a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute that studies and believes in Intelligent Design. How do you, as an Orthodox Jew, reconcile with this kind of generality - with the view of their being a hierarchy with a chief "designer" - while believing in and praying to a very specific God?

The important thing about Intelligent Design is that it is not a theory - which is something I think they need to make more clear. Nor is Intelligent Design an explanation. Intelligent Design is a challenge. It's a challenge to evolution. It does not replace evolution with something else.

The question is not whether it replaces evolution, but whether it replaces God.

No, you see, Intelligent Design doesn't tell you what is true; it tells you what is not true. It tells you that it cannot be that this whole process was random.

This is nothing but a lot of lies and doublespeak. As a senior fellow at the D.I., he has to know full well what Intelligent Design really is. And his last comment is nonsensical and absurd. I.D. is not a philosophy, it's a pseudoscience designed specifically to force the teaching of creationism in schools. There is already a well-established philosophy, called teleology, that argues that natural processes are not entirely random and purposeless.

24 zombie  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:49:48am

re: #1 Charles

Last November, radio host Michael Medved became a Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Hmmm. From the interview:

Speaking of your desire for this kind of particularity, you are a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute that studies and believes in Intelligent Design. How do you, as an Orthodox Jew, reconcile with this kind of generality - with the view of their being a hierarchy with a chief "designer" - while believing in and praying to a very specific God?

The important thing about Intelligent Design is that it is not a theory - which is something I think they need to make more clear. Nor is Intelligent Design an explanation. Intelligent Design is a challenge. It's a challenge to evolution. It does not replace evolution with something else.

The question is not whether it replaces evolution, but whether it replaces God.

No, you see, Intelligent Design doesn't tell you what is true; it tells you what is not true. It tells you that it cannot be that this whole process was random.

Michael Medved, you are a knucklehead. You are letting your wishful thinking get in the way of your intellectual perception.

25 Shay4l  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:49:57am

Be careful. The Swiss do not have gun control nuts disarming them. They'll shoot back.

/Not Swiss

26 Sharmuta  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:50:05am

re: #23 Tigger2005

You should repost this comment upstairs.

27 Killian Bundy  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:50:14am

Beijing Olympic 2008 opening ceremony giant firework footprints 'faked'

As the ceremony got under way with a dramatic, drummed countdown, viewers watching at home and on giant screens inside the Bird's Nest National Stadium watched as a series of giant footprints outlined in fireworks processed gloriously above the city from Tiananmen Square.

What they did not realise was that what they were watching was in fact computer graphics, meticulously created over a period of months and inserted into the coverage electronically at exactly the right moment.

The fireworks were there for real, outside the stadium. But those responsible for filming the extravaganza decided in advance it would be impossible to capture all 29 footprints from the air.

As a result, only the last, visible from the camera stands inside the Bird's Nest was captured on film.

The trick was revealed in a local Chinese newspaper, the Beijing Times, at the weekend.

/cheaters

28 Charles  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:50:27am

There's a new thread for the Medved interview...

29 Shay4l  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:51:08am

re: #22 pingjockey

Ha! Don't know about the mothman. Saw the Discover channel episode on it. That said I discount 90% of Bigfoot sightings as people seeing bears at a distance. It is the other 10% that get my interest. Trained biologists, Forest Service, life long hunters and fisherman. It does make me think. It is a felony in Wa. State to shoot a Bigfoot!

I bet the Swiss would shoot Bigfoot :o/

30 Sparkizzy  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:51:11am

What happened with the rotating titles? They're at the Lizard Lounge link.

31 zombie  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:53:14am

re: #12 DeathtotheSwiss

I'm agnostic. I neither believe or disbelieve in Bigfoot. Though I think the Mothman being real is highly unlikely.

Mothman is a 100% known hoax -- a modern concocted, intentional hoax.

Bigfoot is a slightly more reasonable concept, being based on an ancient Native American legend, shared by many tribes. Could very well be that Bigfoot is an oral tradition memory of Neanderthals, or perhaps a freakishly tall tribe that co-migrated to the Amerias, or whatever. But the likelihood of there being a real Bigfoot alive today is next to nil.

32 Shay4l  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:54:24am

Man, how did I get hung up on the Swiss this afternoon.

I blame Russia.

33 razorbacker  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:55:03am

re: #10 pingjockey

I live in the Pacific Northwest, eastside of the cascades and I believe in Bigfoot. However I don't believe in the Discovery Institutes sanity.

I know that there are no Bigfoots (Bigfeet?, Bigfootes?) in Arkansas. The Fouke Monsters have eaten them all. But the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission steadfastly refuses to admit the existance of wild panthers, cougars, mountain lions, or whatever you want to call them. This refusal is ongoing, and has not been shaken by the release of several pictures of the big cats taken by game cameras set up by deer, turkey, or bear hunters.

I, of course, believe everything that a governmental agency tells me, so I know that the cat tracks in her back yard that S. Lawrence showed me this weekend come from a big housecat or bobcat. One with paws as large as my hand with the fingers bent at the second knuckle.

34 ReneeJoy  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:55:39am

re: #30 Sparkizzy

What happened with the rotating titles?

I was wondering what happened to them as well. I thought maybe it was a firefox issue. I miss them. Sniff.

35 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:57:32am

re: #30 Sparkizzy

Yes...but...what REAAALLLY happened to them?

36 debutaunt  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:57:43am

re: #32 Shay4l

Man, how did I get hung up on the Swiss this afternoon.

I blame Russia.

Subconscious going awry? Swiss cheese - holes - Edwards story?

37 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:57:46am

re: #34 ReneeJoy

I was wondering what happened to them as well. I thought maybe it was a firefox issue. I miss them. Sniff.

Look to the top right over the lizard lounge lizard.

38 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:58:11am

Oh and...I'm in the Lizard Lounge and everyone is silent as can be.

39 debutaunt  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 11:58:50am

re: #34 ReneeJoy

I was wondering what happened to them as well. I thought maybe it was a firefox issue. I miss them. Sniff.

Look over on the right side near the lounge.

40 ReneeJoy  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 12:00:06pm

re: #37 lifeofthemind


Ahhhh. There they are! Sneaky little buggers moved on me! But I feel so much better for having found them :) Still miss them at the top of my window where it's so easy to see them though :/

41 Shay4l  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 12:01:02pm

My wife mentioned this morning that it is a very slow news day. Only Edwards, Russian assholes and the Olympics for 2 days straight.

Viewing the news sites and all, I'd say yeah

42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 12:03:54pm

re: #17 zombie

Zombie...they showed it earlier. They kissed and hugged. Wansn't at all uncomfortable (at least to them).

43 Shay4l  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 12:04:47pm

Hm, Russia says they sunk a Georgian naval vessel. I wonder if we have any subs nearby.

44 pingjockey  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 12:16:23pm

re: #33 razorbacker Arkansas fish and game is being that obtuse? Sheesh. My mom is from Izard co. and a whole lot of the farms have gone back to wood lots cause the kids aren't farming their parents land. Whitetails thick as bugs on a bumper. The predators will move in where there is food. Asshats.

45 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 12:20:46pm

re: #40 ReneeJoy

Ahhhh. There they are! Sneaky little buggers moved on me! But I feel so much better for having found them :) Still miss them at the top of my window where it's so easy to see them though :/

Charles explaiend it. Something about changing page titles screwing up the search engines.

46 6pat6  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 12:39:28pm

re: #27 Killian Bundy

Typical Chinese government. Even that is a lie.

47 IslandLibertarian  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 12:41:07pm

A "Liberal-Progressive" friend sent me a link for free Obama Buttons from MoveOn.org.
I say every one of us should order as many as we can. Of course, to do with as we like.

I'll add that my "Progressive" friend also sends me e-mail that is anti fixed-rail transit development and anti-construction/development propoganda. Real Progressive these libs.
Ride a bike, walk, and live in a tent............and $10.00/gal gas.

48 HoosierHoops  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 12:48:15pm

re: #22 pingjockey

Ha! Don't know about the mothman. Saw the Discover channel episode on it. That said I discount 90% of Bigfoot sightings as people seeing bears at a distance. It is the other 10% that get my interest. Trained biologists, Forest Service, life long hunters and fisherman. It does make me think. It is a felony in Wa. State to shoot a Bigfoot!

My basement is a Bigfoot sanctuary...You have to get by me and the blue helmets to shoot one...

49 6pat6  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 1:01:16pm

Does Medved even sub for Rush or Hannity anymore? He is the guy that usually makes me scan the dial for something else.

50 hazzyday  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 1:34:26pm

re: #17 zombie

I really wish Icould have seen this medal ceremony at the Olympics yesterday:

---------------

Shooting: Women's 10m air pistol (40 shots)

GOLD
Wenjun Guo, China

SILVER
Natalia Paderina, Russia

BRONZE
Nino Salukvadze, Georgia

---------------

In shooting, of all things!

Must have been a very uncomfortable scene! Thank god they were on either side of the podium, with the Gold Medalist in between them.

They hugged each other. It was on the news this am

51 Shay4l  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 1:56:19pm

US flying Georgians home from Iraq

With a little bit of equipment, I'm sure. Good for you, Bush.

52 tommygum  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 2:19:13pm

From the comments to Howie Carr:

Edwards- At least one dem who'll drill.

To determine paternity of the love child, drive an ambulance down her block and see if she chases it.

53 laxmatt1984  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 3:06:04pm

Nerd Trivia:

The 2001 Tom Clancy inspired video game "Ghost Recon" called the Russian invasion of Georgia to the month.

54 MPH  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 3:18:46pm

I am in London this weekend. You can see more burka clad ninja ladies here in two minutes than you would see in two years in either Albania or Kosovo.

55 lifeofthemind  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 3:20:40pm

re: #54 MPH

I am in London this weekend. You can see more burka clad ninja ladies here in two minutes than you would see in two years in either Albania or Kosovo.

Thought in England they were particular about the definition of the word "Lady"

56 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 4:32:23pm

This looks like a nice quiet open thread to say, "Greetings all, from NZ, a beautiful spring day, the sun is shining, kiwis are looking good at the rowing, there is a shit-fight going on in Georgia [watch that space]"

After all, why go join the debate on evolution vs creationism where there will be no winners?

57 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 4:34:15pm

It is a quiet thread, in fact, I do believe it is a dead thread.

Oh, well, talk to myself................

58 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 4:37:17pm

Went fo a hunt, a pleasant walk, bit of blow out for the old ticker. Pine pollen in full blow, good thing I'm not allergic. Saw two deer, 9 month buck with his mum, only 10 metres, let them off the hook. Stupid bugger, had no idea who or what I was, I froze and he just stood there looking at me, wasnt till I decided to wander off that he bolted, thats when mum broke from her cover, she hadnt seen me.

59 sngnsgt  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 5:09:37pm

A great laugh from The Great Communicator:

The Wit of Ronald Reagan

60 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 5:31:57pm
61 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 5:38:39pm
62 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 5:39:19pm
63 A Kiwi Infidel  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 7:16:53pm

re: #62 ploome hineni

[Link: www.mysanantonio.com...]


May have better luck hunting.........................

64 kidbosco  Sun, Aug 10, 2008 8:29:11pm

Georgia is going under the Russian boot heel as we sip our Sunday breakfast; the Ukraine is next. Putin has impeccable timing: the Olympics and a lame duck Bush, who will not take on extra duties (Darfur, for ex.). Let's face it: JFK was wrong.....we won't stand up for liberty wherever it exists. We are fat and complacent: and prime for the taking.


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