It is racist to question his lack of patriotism.

There is no ass hole like The asshOle.

I guess he doesn't care if they vote for him or not. Or maybe he thinks they wouldn't understand?

To quote several other posters: NObama!

What a dick ...

classy. very classy. mind you, while he's away farting around, Hillary! was visiting wounded soldiers at Ft. Drum here in NY this past weekend......

it ain't over yet.

How is the candidate for C in C going to avoid talking to the military until November?

Maybe he can get tips on how to be sneaky and elusive from John Edwards.

He's afraid of soldiers and the military.

re: #5 Vergeltung

classy. very classy. mind you, while he's away farting around, Hillary! was visiting wounded soldiers at Ft. Drum here in NY this past weekend......

it ain't over yet.

Nope, I haven't counted her out. She'll ride to the Dems' rescue in Denver, once they figure out what a loser Obama is.

oh cmon, this is spin

*yawn* -- those who get themselves stuck in Iraq aren't on the cutting edge of the enlightened.

/s

Why would he care about the military. They take poor, uneducated people of color and put them on the front lines as cannon fodder.

Oh ... that's not true? Uh ... back to the drawing board for the leftists.

Would his moonbat base really get so ticked if he gave a nod of respect to the troops?

Would you visit people you could never understand?

The thread is alive, Alive I tell you.

Now that Putin has announced a cease fire will the Georgians get the tunnel blown? Will the Turks prevent sea born supply to Russian troops in Abkhazia? Will the US rush enough anti-tank and MANPADS in to kill the snake?

You stay classy, Barry.

re: #7 right_on_target

He's afraid of soldiers and the military.

He's afraid of the questions he'd get from soldiers. His campaign would melt down, and it wouldn't be pretty.

Obama doesn't need the US military. He is going to create his own once he becomes President and will do away with our present fighting forces.

I'm sure Obama knows most soldiers don't like him very much, and is thus trying to avoid them. Of course, it doesn't look very good from a PR standpoint.

Obama joke of the day.

What do Osama bin Laden and Barack Hussein Obama have in common?

Both have friends who blew up The Pentagon.

re: #8 Ward Cleaver

Nope, I haven't counted her out. She'll ride to the Dems' rescue in Denver, once they figure out what a loser Obama is.

yep. there's quite an undercurrent and simmering buyer's remorse building, IMO. Clinton, Inc., may yet have its day.

re: #7 right_on_target

He's afraid of soldiers and the military.

Yup, he sure is. This is more his kinda of people:

The rumors are rampant up on Martha’s Vineyard: Caroline Kennedy is supposedly throwing an Obama fundraiser this weekend at her late mother’s magnificent home in Gay Head. Expect the Vineyard royalty such as Carly Simon, Mike Wallace, Walter Cronkite and Joanna Simon, Rose Styron, Spike Lee, etc. Look for a possible Oprah appearance, too, since many famous African-Americans have homes in bucolic Oak Bluffs, by the landmark Flying Tigers carousel. ...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

It's an honor and a privilege to be in the presence of the great men and women who serve our country. The fact that Senator Obama sometimes makes it seem like a nuisance speaks volumes.

re: #8 Ward Cleaver

Nope, I haven't counted her out. She'll ride to the Dems' rescue in Denver, once they figure out what a loser Obama is.

Do you think he's going to step in it often enough before the convention? All he really has to do is continue spouting platitudes, and no one will realize he has nothing in his head.

"Town Hall" says it all. The Big O was avoiding the scene because he might have had to answer some hard questions without his teleprompter.

Way to go, Barry!

I love seeing the donks shoot themselves in the foot...

re: #16 BIG

Obama doesn't need the US military. He is going to create his own once he becomes President and will do away with our present fighting forces.

The Blue Berets?

/thinking un

re: #3 Dianna

He figures he's lost the military vote anyway, so fuck 'em. He's also lost the Patriot vote, and that can't be emphasized enough. We do question his patriotism. He hasn't shown any yet.

I don't really expect him to show any. I don't think he has any to show.

Barack Obama said he couldn’t attend a military “town hall” meeting because he had a prior engagement. That “prior engagement” was a vacation in Hawai

In all fairness to Obama, there are some reports that many, if not most, of these soldiers had refused to learn the new Obama hand signal.

Hardly surprising. Anyone who's ever served will tell you the left has no use for the military, unless it suits a political purpose.

I wonder if they just couldn't find enough lefty soldiers to fill the room with. He certainly doesn't want to hear from any personnel who might tell him to 'stay the course'. Or 'let us win'.

re: #22 Dianna

Do you think he's going to step in it often enough before the convention? All he really has to do is continue spouting platitudes, and no one will realize he has nothing in his head.

No, but I think some Dems are having buyer's remorse, like Vergeltung said.

re: #13 lifeofthemind

No, no, no. And no.

Definately more like his type of people! The "beautiful" enlightened Hollywood people. The royalty of America, with no blisters on their fingers.

re: #20 Nevergiveup

Yup, he sure is. This is more his kinda of people:

The rumors are rampant up on Martha’s Vineyard: Caroline Kennedy is supposedly throwing an Obama fundraiser this weekend at her late mother’s magnificent home in Gay Head. Expect the Vineyard royalty such as Carly Simon, Mike Wallace, Walter Cronkite and Joanna Simon, Rose Styron, Spike Lee, etc. Look for a possible Oprah appearance, too, since many famous African-Americans have homes in bucolic Oak Bluffs, by the landmark Flying Tigers carousel. ...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Y'know, trying to appeal to ones base too much alienates the moderates a bit. given Obama's general cluelessness, this will burt him all the more when people see what a pillock he is

Then again....is this bad?

re: #28 irongrampa

Hardly surprising. Anyone who's ever served will tell you the left has no use for the military, unless it suits a political purpose.

Peacekeeping missions!

Obama wants nothing military on the TV. Anything that reminds the voters that we need a military, that there are real bad guys out there and that life is not the Oprah show hurts him. He will not go near soldiers and his cheerleaders in the MSM will play down the war in Georgia.

Not that bright about world affairs...

Hangs out with radicals and terrorists...

Wants to institute socialist programs...

Won't associate with defenders of freedom around the world...

Arrogant, narcissist...

What a dreamboat candidate for POTUS. Where do I sign?

Actions speak far louder than words, don't they?

JAFLW

Military to Barry;

Go **** yourself

Heh O.

What a fucktard.
What an asshat.
POS

I could go on.

re: #23 galloping granny

"Town Hall" says it all. The Big O was avoiding the scene because he might have had to answer some hard questions without his teleprompter.

It's the Teleprompter, stupid.

Bet he won't miss his next opportunity to visit some soldiers. He should go to Pearl Harbor Memorial. That would be safe....probably not!

re: #32 Whiterasta

No, no, no. And no.

I agree. Bush doesn't want to see oil prices spike again. Sorry, Georgia.

re: #20 Nevergiveup

Yup, he sure is. This is more his kinda of people:

The rumors are rampant up on Martha’s Vineyard: Caroline Kennedy is supposedly throwing an Obama fundraiser this weekend at her late mother’s magnificent home in Gay Head.

What a perfect place for a Democrat fundraiser.

(I'm trying to keep a straight, no pun intended, face. It ain't workin' :-)

And on this moment of frustration, I bid you all good night.

He's body surfing, Kerry went windsurfing to keep up the bella figura! Let the world go away.

Meanwhile Johnny Mac ("Old WarMonger") was attacking Putin on Pres. Bush's behalf.

Who would you rather tackle the tough issues? Mr. Hang Ten?

i can't get this link up can anyone else?[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Obama gets a major endorsement.

It’s sad that some who seek progressive change are missing the forest for the trees. But they will not dampen the wide and deep enthusiasm for blocking a third Bush term represented by John McCain, or for bringing Obama by a landslide into the White House with a large Democratic congressional majority.

Who are BHO's friends.....
CPUSA.

Obama will not want to engage in these town hall meetings because it would expose what we've already come to learn. He simply is incapable of thinking on his feet and actually mangles facts and logic worse than anything Bush has been known to do.

Consider town hall meetings pop quizes. They give insight into how a candidate thinks on their feet, their general knowledge and even if they know the questions in advance, it sets up unpredictability that a scripted answer will not cover.

That's why he's avoiding them.

And for him to skip out on yet another military visit is just wrong. He's in Hawaii? He could stop at Pearl and visit the sailors and Marines there. He wants to be C-in-C without actually ever seeing or meet with the troops under his command? That's not going to sit well with the rank and file.

re: #26 Iron Fist

He figures he's lost the military vote anyway, so fuck 'em.

Compare and contrast that with McCain's NAACP appearance. It's all about character and courage.

re: #45 Iron Fist

What a perfect place for a Democrat fundraiser.

(I'm trying to keep a straight, no pun intended, face. It ain't workin' :-)

true. send Zombie for pix! lolollerz!

re: #44 Ward Cleaver

It's more dangerous being America's friend, than her enemy.

(I forget who said that.)

You mean a guy mentored by radical anti-Americans, who wont say the pledge of allegiance, and removes the American flag from his plane doesn't care about the troops? Surprise.
////

re: #48 willowone

i can't get this link up can anyone else?[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Doesn't want to load for me.

re: #53 Whiterasta

michelle Obama?

I should put on my "in all fairness" hat...

In all fairness, he has kept a brutal schedule over the past 6 months or so. He does deserve a vacation.

Now, for the "what a dick-head" hat...

What a dick-head. That's it.

re: #49 jcm

Obama gets a major endorsement.

Who are BHO's friends.....
CPUSA.

At first I thought Comp USA was endorsing him?

re: #31 Ward Cleaver

Buyer's remorse is a pretty strong sentiment in politics.

We shall see.

re: #48 willowone

Didn't work for me either ...

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Bet he won't miss his next opportunity to visit some soldiers. He should go to Pearl Harbor Memorial. That would be safe....probably not!

If he did go, he would probably declare it an enviromental disaster and call for an immediate clean up. The Arizona has been leaking fuel for over 60 years and Barry O will put a stop to it in order to save the planet.

re: #55 pre-Boomer Marine brat

ok tyou it was supposed to be something relating to this;We may be skeptical of his fealty to this principle, when he told the Teamsters union he would end federal oversight of the union in exchange for their electoral support. Such oversight was the result of a long history of corruption of the union. It was an unusual stance for a Presidential candidate; one not taken at any time before by any candidate. Up until now, union anti-corruption efforts have been treated as a legal matter left to the Justice Department. Barack Obama instead offers to lift this monitoring -- meant to prevent crime -- in order to gain votes.

but now i can't clarify if it is

I'm holding up my hands to form an *(O)*.

Because he will not agree to meet McCain for townhall meetings, or attend MILITARY FAMILY townhall meetings,

Democrats have renamed their convention "AMERICA's TOWNHALL meeting." It is ANYTHING BUT!

Their putting the Potemkin into their village to totally fake voters.

re: #53 Whiterasta

It's more dangerous being America's friend, than her enemy.

(I forget who said that.)

All too true these days friend.

re: #60 turn
ty for trying. appreciated

re: #51 David Simon

Compare and contrast that with McCain's NAACP appearance. It's all about character and courage.

EXCELLENT point. +1

re: #61 BIG

If he did go, he would probably declare it an enviromental disaster and call for an immediate clean up. The Arizona has been leaking fuel for over 60 years and Barry O will put a stop to it in order to save the planet.

He would probably offer a prayer to those who died on both sides during the attack on Pearl Harbor.

re: #56 willowone

Shah of Iran?
A South Vietnamese President?
Norieaga?
Trujlllo?

re: #42 cutestguy

I wish I knew.

Proof that "progressivism" = Communism.

re: #49 jcm

Obama gets a major endorsement.

Who are BHO's friends.....
CPUSA.

Why would he go visit our soldiers? They have taken an oath to defend and protect our Constitution For a man like obama- that oath stands in the way of the world as he'd like to see it.

re: #69 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He would probably offer a prayer to those who died on both the other sides during the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Tweaked

re: #69 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

He would probably offer a prayer to those who died on both sides during the attack on Pearl Harbor.

You mean "the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor"?

re: #70 Whiterasta
oh hell, don't be getting all shmart on me, (i don't have same capacity)

re: #63 FrogMarch

I'm holding up my hands to form an *(O)*.

This is a family blog no pr0n emoticons.

/looking side to side

Olmert '08!

/run

Give him a break, he gets very uncomfortable when around strong independent self reliant people who love their country.

re: #62 willowone

I see why you're interested. If true as stated, it's political dynamite.

I think O is trying to preserve his soft eyes.

Can't have eyes like this looking at you now.

re: #81 pre-Boomer Marine brat

right, i've been trying to figure out what specific local he might have said that at, no luck so far

re: #77 jcm

This is a family blog no pr0n emoticons.

Yeah, now you can try explaining that to Mandy.

re: #25 Ward Cleaver

The Blue Berets?

/thinking un

The NOI.

What a jerk.

Americans! Do all you can to make sure you don't have this TURD as your president.

re: #79 bulwrk

Give him a break, he gets very uncomfortable when around strong independent self reliant people who love their country.

He's (now, for the first time) uncomfortable around Michelle?

/s

So, what would it take to get Obama to speak at a Townhall or with American troops? Certainly, a teleprompter, but what else?

Now now people, let's not be too hard on BHO. I mean if you had his voting record, had made the statements he has made and had the long standing associations that he has had, you wouldn't want to go in front of a room full of bible reading, gun toting bitter military personal either. So back off.

re: #11 kynna

Why would he care about the military. They take poor, uneducated people of color and put them on the front lines as cannon fodder.

Oh ... that's not true? Uh ... back to the drawing board for the leftists.

Would his moonbat base really get so ticked if he gave a nod of respect to the troops?

Yes.

OT

A must read...John Voight's op-ed

Jon Voight's Obama Op-Ed: "[He] Falls Short In Every Way"

New thread about Mean Mac Menacing Mendacious Putin.

re: #53 Whiterasta

It's more dangerous being America's friend, than her enemy.

(I forget who said that.)

Imry Nagy ?

re: #65 cutestguy

What do Barack Obama and Osama Bin Laden and have in common?

Just a little BS.

/saw it on a bumpersticker

It's time to play "Six Degrees of Leftist Bacon" folks...

What's the "Leftist Bacon" connection between Obama and Obama?

Well, Obama's newest foreign policy adviser and latest Best Friends Evah, George Clooney is making a moving about Salim Ahmed Hamdan, who used to be Osama bin Laden's driver!

re: #89 WriterMom

So, what would it take to get Obama to speak at a Townhall or with American troops? Certainly, a teleprompter, but what else?

Free arugula?

re: #84 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, now you can try explaining that to Mandy.

Uh uh, not me, no sir.....

In your face Obama !

Gosh! What a surprise!

Don't be mad. Be Glad. This screw up will go far to show the "moderates" what kind of guy wants to be Commander In Chief.

re: #94 debutaunt

Is who dat?

re: #63 FrogMarch

I'm holding up my hands to form an *(O)*.

Have ye got four hands?
How can ye type when ye give the "O"-salute?

re: #97 jcm

Uh uh, not me, no sir.....

Heh
What was the quote on the overnight thread ... about courage?
Heh Heh

re: #101 Whiterasta

Is who dat?

Hungarian that we let down back in the 1950's during their revolution.

re: #101 Whiterasta

Former PM of Hungary....I knew that!

re: #21 David Simon

It's an honor and a privilege to be in the presence of the great men and women who serve our country. The fact that Senator Obama sometimes makes it seem like a nuisance speaks volumes.

I had the privilege of shaking the hand of a 'Nam vet and telling him thanks for what he'd done. I'm sure that I made his day and was happy to do so.

"Again"?

How so?

It's like playing Whack-A-Mole, for Pete's sake.

re: #105 debutaunt

Hungarian that we let down back in the 1950's during their revolution.

BTW, have you seen a photo of the statue of Nagy, standing on the little bridge, "looking off" at the Parliament building?

Damned cool. Damned symbolic.

re: #16 BIG

Obama doesn't need the US military. He is going to create his own once he becomes President and will do away with our present fighting forces.

That's scary, sounds like the SS ruling over the Wehrmacht. The SS saluted with the extended arm, the Wehrmacht [Army, Navy, Air Force] had the regular military salute. Things changed after Jun '44 though.

I can see it now; Obama's Elite Guard giving the "O" salute !

re: #40 persian shoe

Heh O.

What a fucktard.
What an asshat.
POS

I could go on.

But he has such soft eyes. Ooooh! *tingle up leg*
/Obama groupie

re: #48 willowone

What's the headline, and do you know what page it's on in the dead-tree version?

re: #110 right_on_target

I can see it now; Obama's Elite Guard giving the "O" salute !

They would nuance it, of course, saying they were saluting the orifice, not the man.

re: #58 Nevergiveup

At first I thought Comp USA was endorsing him?

For a microsecond there, I thought it was JPUSA (Jesus People USA).

re: #95 Kenneth

It's time to play "Six Degrees of Leftist Bacon" folks...

What's the "Leftist Bacon" connection between Obama and Obama?

Well, Obama's newest foreign policy adviser and latest Best Friends Evah, George Clooney is making a moving about Salim Ahmed Hamdan, who used to be Osama bin Laden's driver!

And he's going to play his hero, Charles Swift.

[Link: abajournal.com...]

re: #21 David Simon

It's an honor and a privilege to be in the presence of the great men and women who serve our country. The fact that Senator Obama sometimes makes it seem like a nuisance speaks volumes.

Couldn't have said it better, DS...

I heard that, even Barack Obama's snubs are filled with hope for a brighter future and a nuanced plan for change.

re: #109 pre-Boomer Marine brat

BTW, have you seen a photo of the statue of Nagy, standing on the little bridge, "looking off" at the Parliament building?

Damned cool. Damned symbolic.

I've forgotten the name of the Hungarian sailor who jumped ship in the US and we sent him back. Broke my heart.

He can't risk NOT being able to heal.

re: #107 Cygnus

I had the privilege of shaking the hand of a 'Nam vet and telling him thanks for what he'd done. I'm sure that I made his day and was happy to do so.

Whenever I meet a vet, I do the same. That is, when I'm too late to pay for their meal.

re: #77 jcm

This is a family blog no pr0n emoticons.

There's a difference between (O) and this (o).
the smaller one is the international poop chute symbol.
sorry for the confusion. In the future I will keep it kleen.

re: #118 debutaunt

I've forgotten the name of the Hungarian sailor who jumped ship in the US and we sent him back. Broke my heart.

Yes, indeed. I remember one Sunday in church, when pastor introduced the newly-arrived Hungarian family to the congregation (the family the church was sponsoring).

re: #102 yma o hyd

Have ye got four hands?
How can ye type when ye give the "O"-salute?

I have 6 hands. The other two are calling the DNC to make sure this is all legal.

Give him a pass. He needed a break. One person can stand only so many gaffes in a short period. /

re: #121 FrogMarch

There's a difference between (O) and this (o).
the smaller one is the international poop chute symbol.
sorry for the confusion. In the future I will keep it kleen.

LOL!

re: #103 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh
What was the quote on the overnight thread ... about courage?
Heh Heh

There's courage....
Then there's foolish!

re: #124 markos

Give him a pass. He needed a break. One person can stand only so many gaffes in a short period. /

No pass...do not collect $200, markos.

He wanted to play with the bigger boys in the big sandbox.

Sen. Obama and his Campaign's avoidance of things Military is much the Same as SUPERMAN'S of KRYPTONITE - For The SAME REASON.

-S-

unfit for command

CBS originally said they were going to air the program also, but last night came and went and at least here in GA there was no townhall meeting televised.
A group called Spouses for Change were one of the primary sponsors of this meeting. They had received a commitment from John McCain to attend but I don't know if he attended or not. Nothing in the news but that don't mean nothing since they only tell us what they think we ought to know.

re: #118 debutaunt

I've forgotten the name of the Hungarian sailor who jumped ship in the US and we sent him back. Broke my heart.

Found it! The Defection of Simas Kudirka, Lithuanian

Alan Arkin stars as real-life Lithuanian seaman Simas Kudirka, a radio operator on a Russian vessel. When his ship docks at Martha's Vineyard in early 1970, Kudirka makes a dramatic leap from the deck, landing on the American coast guard cutter Vigilant. He announces that he wishes to defect, but the rules of maritime law prohibit the Americans from offering him asylum. As the crew of the Vigilant looks on helplessly, the Russian officers board the cutter, beat and bind Kudirka, and drag him back to his own ship. This tinderbox political incident occurs during a Soviet/U.S. conference over fishing rights. The ultimate fate of Simas Kudirka provides the core of Bruce Feldman's script. Directed for television by David Lowell Rich (who won an Emmy), The Defection of Simas Kudirka was first broadcast January 23, 1978.

re: #112 Dianna
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

Thanks for the HT, Charles!

If the McCain campaign doesn't capitalize on this bigtime, when Barry's handing it to them on a silver platter...

/shakes head

I want to say that someone needs to tell Obama that when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. But the more he digs, the better the chance the average viewer will find out his true positions.

re: #92 jorline

Link doesn't work for me. What's the publication it appears in?

Dude! You can't spare like 15 minutes of your vacation for our soldiers? Ugh. What. A. Jerk.

re: #92 jorline

OT

A must read...John Voight's op-ed

Jon Voight's Obama Op-Ed: "[He] Falls Short In Every Way"

Jon Voight for POTUS!

re: #135 Amy

Link doesn't work for me. What's the publication it appears in?

Washington Times...try this.

re: #136 baxtrice

Dude! You can't spare like 15 minutes of your vacation for our soldiers? Ugh. What. A. Jerk.

He should fly from Hawaii to Texas for an appearance of a couple hours?

Do you think that there aren't half a dozen places that he's been invited to appear every waking hour of the day? Inevitably, people are going to be disappointed.

At the very least, McCain should immediately release a commercial showing him fielding questions from the very troops that Obama wouldn't go see and saying something like, "It's too bad that Senator Obama's vacation was a higher priority than engaging with our brave troops. Ask yourself: Is this man worthy of being our next Commander in Chief?"

Just a suggestion, John.

re: #138 jorline

Thanks!

#27 Seafoodgumbo

Don't you mean this one?

If Obama can't meet with US soldiers, then how is he going to be Commander-in-chief.

More to the point, if Obama can't even meet with US soldiers face-to-face, then how is he going to meet with potentially hostile rulers like Ahmedinejad of Iran?

He'll meet with genocidal ruler of Iran, but not the soldiers he personally commands?

re: #139 JustMyView

He should fly from Hawaii to Texas for an appearance of a couple hours?

Do you think that there aren't half a dozen places that he's been invited to appear every waking hour of the day? Inevitably, people are going to be disappointed.

When you're running to be Commander in Chief of our millitary, YOU MAKE TIME, or that's my opinion.

sorry, I'm old fashioned that way.

re: #144 baxtrice

When you're running to be Commander in Chief of our millitary, YOU MAKE TIME, or that's my opinion.

sorry, I'm old fashioned that way.

Really? Do you think President Bush visits the troops every week? How often would be often enough?

Obama has visited the troops at Walter Reed, but he seems to get no credit for that.

re: #145 JustMyView

Is there anything that Obama could do (or not do) that you wouldn't try to spin away and excuse?

Here's a news story about the demands for Obama's time. I'm sure McCain is faced with a similar set of requests.

re: #145 JustMyView

Really? Do you think President Bush visits the troops every week? How often would be often enough?

Obama has visited the troops at Walter Reed, but he seems to get no credit for that.

I've read that on several occasions, President Bush has gone out of his way to visit our troops. I've seen almost no articles on Obama visiting Walter Reed.

I made one flippant comment and you decide to come after me, while many others have echoed what I have posted. You've got a lot of nerve.

re: #146 Charles

Is there anything that Obama could do (or not do) that you wouldn't try to spin away and excuse?

Of course, but most of those that get posted here seem pretty dismissable. By the way, did you know that both McCain and GWB issued calls for UN resolutions yesterday, which you mocked Obama for doing? Will there be a correction to the record?

re: #149 JustMyView

Of course, but most of those that get posted here seem pretty dismissable. By the way, did you know that both McCain and GWB issued calls for UN resolutions yesterday, which you mocked Obama for doing? Will there be a correction to the record?

Do you have a link for that? I'm certainly not going to post anything based on your word.

re: #148 baxtrice

I've read that on several occasions, President Bush has gone out of his way to visit our troops. I've seen almost no articles on Obama visiting Walter Reed.

I made one flippant comment and you decide to come after me, while many others have echoed what I have posted. You've got a lot of nerve.

I didn't "come after you". I challenged the reasonableness of what you said. If you are going to claim that Obama should interrupt a one-week working vacation to travel several thousand miles to make an appearance, you should be prepared to defend your argument.

re: #149 JustMyView

Of course, but most of those that get posted here seem pretty dismissable. By the way, did you know that both McCain and GWB issued calls for UN resolutions yesterday, which you mocked Obama for doing? Will there be a correction to the record?

The two men's calls for action by the UNSC were significantly different. You are equating the two calls. They weren't equivalent. Get details before you spout off so categorically.

It's a "working vacation"? I kept reading, vacation..

Also argument? Um huh..

I said..

Dude! You can't spare like 15 minutes of your vacation for our soldiers? Ugh. What. A. Jerk.

That's not an argument, that's a flippant comment. Sheesh. An OPINION, check out the definition of that in the dictionary, it'll blow yer mind baby. *winks*

re: #145 JustMyView

Really? Do you think President Bush visits the troops every week? How often would be often enough?

Obama has visited the troops at Walter Reed, but he seems to get no credit for that.

"Enough" would be every time he has a reasonable opportunity. There is a war going on, you know, and being against the war doesn't automatically make you against the troops. . .DOES IT?

The problem isn't that he doesn't visit every week, nor should he have to. Its that he's missed several good chances.

Would you argue that cancelling his planned meeting with US soldiers in Germany so he could go work out at the gym was wrong?

re: #151 JustMyView

If you are going to claim that Obama should interrupt a one-week working vacation to travel several thousand miles to make an appearance, you should be prepared to defend your argument.

So now it's a "working vacation"? How convenient. And does that qualify, in your opinion, as the "prior engagement" he used as an excuse not to attend the town meeting? Doesn't it bother you that the man can't seem to ever just tell the truth about anything?

So where are visits to military personnel in Obama's schedule for the next three months? Are any scheduled?

Or has he been advised not to meet with them since they're not likely to vote for him in sufficient numbers?

Maybe he just doesn't have much respect for the US military. I'm guessing the feeling is pretty mutual.

McCain is the natural choice for Commander in Chief.

I can think of maybe a half-dozen others who would be okay.

Obama isn't anywhere near the list.

re: #155 Amy

So now it's a "working vacation"? How convenient. And does that qualify, in your opinion, as the "prior engagement" he used as an excuse not to attend the town meeting? Doesn't it bother you that the man can't seem to ever just tell the truth about anything?

You and me-- we on the same wavelength about the whole "working vacation" thing. I'm sending hearts your way.

re: #156 godfrey

Maybe he just doesn't have much respect for the US military. I'm guessing the feeling is pretty mutual.

He's making it so by repeated snubs.

I think its possible for non-military inclined elected office holders to earn the respect of the military, even those who don't necessarily support the war. But Obama surely isn't making the effort to be one of these.

And that's the point. The guy wants to be commander in chief. He says he wants to bring the poor soldiers home. So why has he repeatedly snubbed them?

re: #103 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh
What was the quote on the overnight thread ... about courage?
Heh Heh

GUTS & BALLS

We've all heard about people having guts or balls, But do you really know
the difference between them?
In an effort to keep you informed, the definition for each is listed below
...

GUTS - is arriving home late after a night out with the guys, being met by
your wife with a broom, and having the guts to ask: "Are you still cleaning
or are you flying somewhere"?

BALLS: - is coming home late after a night out with the guys, smelling of
perfume and beer, lipstick on your collar, slapping your wife on the
butt.... and having the balls to say : "You're Next"

I hope this clears up any confusion on the definitions.

Medically speaking, there is no difference in the outcome,
since both ultimately result in death. ------

re: #150 Charles

Do you have a link for that? I'm certainly not going to post anything based on your word.

Here's a link that contains a piece of McCain's statement, as well as a link to the full statement.

Here is a State Dept. spokesman, presumably speaking for the administration.

Wood said the United States was hopeful that the U.N. Security Council would pass a "strong" resolution on the fighting that called for an end to attacks on both sides as well as mediation, but prospects for such a statement were dim given that Russia wields veto power on the 15-member body.

re: #155 Amy

So now it's a "working vacation"? How convenient. And does that qualify, in your opinion, as the "prior engagement" he used as an excuse not to attend the town meeting? Doesn't it bother you that the man can't seem to ever just tell the truth about anything?

why should it bother s/he/it? after all, s/he/it has the same issue.

re: #155 Amy

So now it's a "working vacation"? How convenient. And does that qualify, in your opinion, as the "prior engagement" he used as an excuse not to attend the town meeting? Doesn't it bother you that the man can't seem to ever just tell the truth about anything?

The fact that the town meeting was several thousand miles from where the vacation was taking place would seem to be enough of an explanation as to why he wouldn't be able to attend.

"Working vacation" was my terminology. I don't think either McCain or Obama is getting much real time off these days. Several of his senior staff members are with him in Hawaii. I doubt they're there because they all like surfing.

re: #2 karmic_inquisitor

There is no ass hole like The asshOle.

I, too, would call him an asshole, but that's soooo demeaning to assholes.

re: #149 JustMyView

Of course, but most of those that get posted here seem pretty dismissable. By the way, did you know that both McCain and GWB issued calls for UN resolutions yesterday, which you mocked Obama for doing? Will there be a correction to the record?

What correction? McCain, unlike Obama, pointed out that Russia can veto the measure. In other words, he acknowledged that it would be completely symbolic.

re: #156 godfrey

So where are visits to military personnel in Obama's schedule for the next three months? Are any scheduled?

Surprising as this may be, I am not privy to his schedule.

re: #162 JustMyView

He could always re-schedule. Did he do that?

re: #160 JustMyView

Try again. McCain pointed out that Russia has veto power.

re: #162 JustMyView

Spin it any way you like it, buddy. If it really mattered to Obama he would indeed find the time to meet with the military. It was really nice of him to visit Walter Read Hospital. Once.

My guess is Obama is afraid of an unscripted unstaged untelepromptered townhall meeting with the military because he knows he might be asked "difficult" questions he has no smooth answer to.

re: #162 JustMyView

If the townhall military event was important to Obama, he would be there. Period. This is not the first time Obama has had a "schedule conflict" and had to snub the military.

re: #166 baxtrice

He could always re-schedule. Did he do that?

Obviously not, but I'm guessing time for vacation of any kind is kind of limited. As the other article that I linked to indicated, there is no time when he could take a vacation that wouldn't involve saying to to some audience that would like him to speak to them and, in many cases I'm sure, that he would like to speak to.

In general, having more power means having to say no more often. There's no reason to impute evil intent to him for missing this one gathering when he has had to say no to hundreds of invitations.

re: #157 baxtrice

I'm sending hearts your way.

Right back atcha!

re: #145 JustMyView

Really? Do you think President Bush visits the troops every week? How often would be often enough?

Obama has visited the troops at Walter Reed, but he seems to get no credit for that.

Yes he does...see here...here...here...and here. I can find a lot more for you if you like.

This does not count the numerous secret trips he makes to Walter Reed.

re: #165 JustMyView

Surprising as this may be, I am not privy to his schedule.

Godfrey didn't address you. You really are self-absorbed, aren't you?

re: #167 Charles

Try again. McCain pointed out that Russia has veto power.

Do you really think Obama doesn't know that? And McCain and Pres. Bush know that any resolution will be vetoed, why are they wasting their time on meaningless gestures. Also, look at the distinction between kinds of resolutions that AllahPundit points to. It may not have been totally symbolic.

And people actually consider this man intelligent and a leader? Wow. People are stupid.

re: #174 JustMyView

Do you really think Obama doesn't know that? And McCain and Pres. Bush know that any resolution will be vetoed, why are they wasting their time on meaningless gestures. Also, look at the distinction between kinds of resolutions that AllahPundit points to. It may not have been totally symbolic.

Well, Obama did say he would order "his" Joint Chiefs of Staff to bring an end to the Iraq war, in complete ignorance of the chain of command under the Commander in Chief. So yes, I do think Obama doesn't know what he's talking about.

re: #170 JustMyView

Obviously not, but I'm guessing time for vacation of any kind is kind of limited. As the other article that I linked to indicated, there is no time when he could take a vacation that wouldn't involve saying to to some audience that would like him to speak to them and, in many cases I'm sure, that he would like to speak to.

In general, having more power means having to say no more often. There's no reason to impute evil intent to him for missing this one gathering when he has had to say no to hundreds of invitations.

One thing to make clear: I did NOT impute evil intent on him for missing this -- I just called him a jerk. I come from a millitary family. I have many family member who have served from WW2, Korea, Vietnam, and currently in Iraq. It's a big deal to them.

Two, you came in here, picked out my comment and tried to start crap with me because of what I said. I don't take kindly to being silenced on my opinion. We disagree, fine. Whatever, but don't try to make me out to be the bad guy.

Three, being President of the United States is a big responsiblity, and if Obama is having issues already with the time contraints and issues with his life, then is NOT up to the job. Just look at what President Bush has had to put up with for 8 years. Obama and his supporters need to grow a thicker skin, if you're going to get this riled up.

The true reasons for his 'hesitation' in paying a visit to REAL MEN is;

a. He doesn't speak their language yet.
b. He is learning how to salute properly
c. Ranks, insignias are confusing him.
d. and boots that don't need shining worry him

re: #177 baxtrice

One thing to make clear: I did NOT impute evil intent on him for missing this -- I just called him a jerk. I come from a millitary family. I have many family member who have served from WW2, Korea, Vietnam, and currently in Iraq. It's a big deal to them.

Two, you came in here, picked out my comment and tried to start crap with me because of what I said. I don't take kindly to being silenced on my opinion. We disagree, fine. Whatever, but don't try to make me out to be the bad guy.

Three, being President of the United States is a big responsiblity, and if Obama is having issues already with the time contraints and issues with his life, then is NOT up to the job. Just look at what President Bush has had to put up with for 8 years. Obama and his supporters need to grow a thicker skin, if you're going to get this riled up.

I think pretty much any president would find it impossible to be in two places at once.

You're the one who's riled up. I just happened to address your comment because it was near the end of the queue. Nothing personal.

NObama doesn't want to visit the troops because when he downsizes the military, there wont be any pictures of him with the soldiers he has let go.

re: #162 JustMyView

The fact that the town meeting was several thousand miles from where the vacation was taking place would seem to be enough of an explanation as to why he wouldn't be able to attend.

But the point is that that is not what he said. He said he had a "prior engagement." Now, "engagement" generally means "appointment." I have never heard anyone characterize a vacation (working or otherwise) as an "engagement."

He could have said, "You know, I scheduled vacation months ago, and my family and I really need a break. How about we re-schedule the town meeting for a mutually convenient day?" But he didn't do that, either. Clearly, he had no intention of facing questions from the soldiers but was too much of a wuss to just say he was going on vacation.

"Working vacation" was my terminology.

Good of you to admit that you are putting your own spin on Obama's statement in an attempt to minimize the fact that he called a vacation a "prior engagement."

I don't think either McCain or Obama is getting much real time off these days. Several of his senior staff members are with him in Hawaii. I doubt they're there because they all like surfing.

Again, you are off and running with your assumptions and doubts, which have no basis in fact. Maybe his senior staff members love to surf and just wanted a vacation in Hawaii that would be paid for by the campaign.

re: #176 Kenneth

Well, Obama did say he would order "his" Joint Chiefs of Staff to bring an end to the Iraq war, in complete ignorance of the chain of command under the Commander in Chief. So yes, I do think Obama doesn't know what he's talking about.

My God, after nearly eight years of GWB, I can't believe there is anyone left who is sensitive to minor errors in phrasing when people speak informally. You'd think we'd all have gotten used to the idea that being president needn't require one to speak clearly or correctly.

re: #179 JustMyView

I think pretty much any president would find it impossible to be in two places at once.

It's not a matter of being in 2 places at once, it's a matter of where he chooses to be. If the military was important to Obama, then he would choose to be with them more often. They're not & he doesn't. Screw him.

re: #180 see bs

NObama doesn't want to visit the troops because when he downsizes the military, there wont be any pictures of him with the soldiers he has let go.

He has said he intends to increase the size of the military. Check out his web site.

re: #179 JustMyView

I think pretty much any president would find it impossible to be in two places at once.

You're the one who's riled up. I just happened to address your comment because it was near the end of the queue. Nothing personal.

Aww, how heartwarming to know that I was in the right place at the right time. Still you evade and play games with us, fine. You deliberately miss the point that Obama is going to have to sacrifice some of his "fun time/vacation" to be President of the United States--Oh well, I wash my hands of you, troll.

re: #179 JustMyView

I think pretty much any president would find it impossible to be in two places at once.

Ah yes, it's a logistical nightmare. What to do, what to do...I've got it!

"I can't make it because I'll be in Hawaii. Can we reschedule?"

re: #174 JustMyView

Do you really think Obama doesn't know that?

Yes.

re: #182 JustMyView

...being president needn't require one to speak clearly or correctly.

It helps actually. But more importantly, they need to understand the powers & responsibilities of the office. Obama does not.

By the way, did you know that Obama has been a US Senator for less time than John McCain spent as a POW? And McCain's "attendance record" was a heck of a lot better, too.

re: #185 baxtrice

Aww, how heartwarming to know that I was in the right place at the right time. Still you evade and play games with us, fine. You deliberately miss the point that Obama is going to have to sacrifice some of his "fun time/vacation" to be President of the United States--Oh well, I wash my hands of you, troll.

Obama has taken one week off for what is, I'll contend, a working vacation. (As I recall, he also took off Easter weekend, but has had no other consecutive days away from campaigning this year.) When he comes back, there'll be no rest until after the election. I'm not feeling sorry for him. But I do think it's a little silly to act as if he's leading a leisurely life and can't be bothered to do things for other people.

Enjoy the rest of your day. I'm off to enjoy mine.

re: #184 JustMyView

Check out his web site.

Yes, I think that's an excellent idea. Check out his website. He plans to increase the size of a lot of government programs - and create lots of new ones.

re: #188 Kenneth

And McCain's "attendance record" was a heck of a lot better, too.

Not to mention that McCain didn't wimp out on tough issues by voting "present" umpteen times.

re: #184 JustMyView

He has said he intends to increase the size of the military. Check out his web site.

He also pledged to gut the US military... watch this video.

re: #187 Charles

Yes, there were also a few here (myself included, briefly) who either didn't know, or forgot.

I'll make the lame excuse that it was very late at night when I forgot. But the Lizard Army's night guard reminded me quickly.

The Obamessiah will appear in a vision, and manna will fall from the heavens...

re: #191 Amy

Yes, but I was referring to McCain's attendance as a POW was better than Obama's as a US Senator.

re: #160 JustMyView

Here is a State Dept. spokesman, presumably speaking for the administration.

I would never assume that the State Dept. is speaking for anyone but its own entrenched interests, which have nothing in common with the current administration.

Let's not forget, Barry needs to rest up for his George Clooney fund raiser in Switzerland. Priorities people!

re: #195 Kenneth

Yes, but I was referring to McCain's attendance as a POW was better than Obama's as a US Senator.

Ya fergot to add the :P sign.

;)

I'm going for a smoke. BBL

re: #189 JustMyView

Enjoy the rest of your day. I'm off to enjoy mine.

Ah, good - the deliberately obtuse troll has left the building. Do us a favor and stay away permanently, mkay?

As each day goes by we see more and more what this man is made of. It's revealing and it's nothing. A straw man.

re: #189 JustMyView

Obama has taken one week off for what is, I'll contend, a working vacation. (As I recall, he also took off Easter weekend, but has had no other consecutive days away from campaigning this year.) When he comes back, there'll be no rest until after the election. I'm not feeling sorry for him. But I do think it's a little silly to act as if he's leading a leisurely life and can't be bothered to do things for other people.

Enjoy the rest of your day. I'm off to enjoy mine.

It's the TelePrompter, stupid.

re: #2 karmic_inquisitor

I believe the new "O" symbol is for how big an asshole he is...and i think he's an asshole the size of a hula hoop, as opposed to two hands together...they ought to revise the "o" symbol to use arms outstretched in a circle, not just hands and fingers forming it.

re: #174 JustMyView

Do you really think Obama doesn't know that?

Yes, I could totally believe that until yesterday BHO didn't know that Russia has a veto power in the UNSC. I suspect that there's a lot BHO doesn't know. I don't think his education at Columbia included the kind of coursework necessary to understand history and the modern world - beyond community organizing and Marxist theory. I'm worried about the important stuff that BHO has no clue about, and doubly worried about the things BHO thinks he knows, but really doesn't.

re: #189 JustMyView

Trip to Hawaii not finalized as of July 13, 2008

It's not 100 percent finalized, but U.S. Rep. Neil Abercrombie says its a "virtual certainty" that Sen. Barack Obama will vacation in Hawaii next month before the Democratic National Convention on Aug. 25.
"It's very likely that he'll be taking a little R and R before the convention," he said by phone from his home in Honolulu yesterday. "We'll know soon. It's under consideration and a virtual certainty."
He would not say how he learned of the Illinois senator's possible tropical getaway, but said it would likely be a short trip in late August.

Interesting that the Hawaii trip was to be in LATE AUGUST, according to Abercrombie.
Also, since the Weekly Standard article is dated July 12, 2008, it is obvious that Obama:
1. Lied; and,
2. Refused to attend the event at all; and,
3. Refused to provide alternate dates, as he was asked to do.
At the time he was invited to the Town Hall on August 11, he was planning to be in Hawaii in late August.
What a scumbucket.

re: #205 sparrowlake

Good catch!

re: #205 sparrowlake

Trip to Hawaii not finalized as of July 13, 2008

Interesting that the Hawaii trip was to be in LATE AUGUST, according to Abercrombie.
Also, since the Weekly Standard article is dated July 12, 2008, it is obvious that Obama:
1. Lied; and,
2. Refused to attend the event at all; and,
3. Refused to provide alternate dates, as he was asked to do.
At the time he was invited to the Town Hall on August 11, he was planning to be in Hawaii in late August.
What a scumbucket.

with the kind of math Obanal uses in his economic & tax policies, it's possible that for him, August 11th *is* late in the month.......

either that, or he's just a scumbag. %-)

I'm sure if he looked hard enough, he could just possibily see some of our bravest and finest in Hawaii...Perhaps, he may even stop and speak with them...crapweasel....

re: #168 Kenneth

Spin it any way you like it, buddy. If it really mattered to Obama he would indeed find the time to meet with the military. It was really nice of him to visit Walter Read Hospital. Once.

My guess is Obama is afraid of an unscripted unstaged untelepromptered townhall meeting with the military because he knows he might be asked "difficult" questions he has no smooth answer to.

Or he would have to flip-flop on the next day.

No. Wait. Dems do not flip-flop, they "refine" their positions. Neither do they lie, they just "misspeak." Republicans flip-flop and lie. Sorry for the confusion.

re: #188 Kenneth

It helps actually. But more importantly, they need to understand the powers & responsibilities of the office. Obama does not.

By the way, did you know that Obama has been a US Senator for less time than John McCain spent as a POW? And McCain's "attendance record" was a heck of a lot better, too.

And McCain's voting record is much more mainstream American as well. And none of this "present" crap.

#182 JMV

My God, after nearly eight years of GWB, I can't believe there is anyone left who is sensitive to minor errors in phrasing when people speak informally. You'd think we'd all have gotten used to the idea that being president needn't require one to speak clearly or correctly.

This is hysterical. For the last eight years the left has been howling over how "stupid" "inarticulate" and "dumb" Bush is for not being a great speaker and mocking how he'll coin new words like strategery (did he really say that?).

Allow me to point out there's a mountain of difference between mispronouncing a word like nuclear or telling people he just visited 57 states with one more to go.

Obama only sounds good when he's looking at a teleprompter, albeit he says nothing while sounding good. When asked tough questions without his teleprompter, the only thing he can come up with is "uh, you know, well, uh, mmm, uh yeah, right, like I said, uh, mmm, that's the answer."

re: #43 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can you just see some decorated WWII vets blocking Obama and his posse from visiting the USS Arizona and daring the SS to force them out of the way or arresting them? Especially on live video.

I know this is a dead thread but still, that image is a compelling one.