Dammit, if only I got a provider that had FNC here. Stayed at a hotel once that had it...

Since it isn't Obama there's no CNN feed.

re: #1 laZardo

Dammit, if only I got a provider that had FNC here. Stayed at a hotel once that had it...

Everbody carries FOX. Were are you in Moscow?

Anyone know where I can get a transcript? Some of us have jobs and can't watch TV all day.

Stupid job.

re: #3 Nevergiveup

Manila. My current provider has FoxCrime but not Fox News Channel.

Obama taking notes diligently so he can parrot the stance.

Anyone got a feed for it?

And who thinks Barry is whining about this, "But I'm on vacation! This isn't fair!"

re: #5 laZardo

Manila. My current provider has FoxCrime but not Fox News Channel.

Ah, OK I did not realize you were not in the USA. My bad!

For those this XM it's on channel 130.

re: #6 Peacekeeper

Obama taking notes diligently so he can parrot the stance.

Obama's historic "*I* think it's a date that will live in infamy, too!" speech will be studied by schoolchildren hundreds of years from now.

re: #8 Nevergiveup

No prob. I need to put my location in my profile, just in case...

re: #7 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Anyone got a feed for it?

And who thinks Barry is whining about this, "But I'm on vacation! This isn't fair!"

McCain is commenting on world affairs while BO is on vacation? Why that RACIST !

/////////////////

WHY isn't fox streaming this?! Jerks.

re: #4 Pyroskank

Anyone know where I can get a transcript? Some of us have jobs and can't watch TV all day.

Stupid job.

Agreed, it would be nice to see a trascript as some of us are far away from a TV of any sort.

He is basically saying we have to make Soviet Russia pay in some way for it's aggression.

McCain is kicking ass.

re: #15 Nevergiveup

He is basically saying we have to make Soviet Russia pay in some way for it's aggression.

Did he actually call them Soviet Russia?

re: #15 Nevergiveup

Which isn't really possible. Unfortunately.

re: #16 Peter Verkooijen

What is he saying?

re: #15 Nevergiveup

Well good, or we'll get more of it.

Did he say that too?

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

Did he actually call them Soviet Russia?

No, That's my term for today's Russia.

re: #19 Sharmuta

"Today we are all Georgians"

"We are all Georgians."

Except for the Discovery Institute, that is.

re: #10 Occasional Reader

I can't top that one.

re: #1 laZardo

Dammit, if only I got a provider that had FNC here. Stayed at a hotel once that had it...

* * *
FOX is fantastic. Lobby somebody in your country please.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

"Today we are all Georgians"

If God is my witness....

Oh- you mean the other Georgia.

"Stop this massive transefer of wealth to countries that don't like us very much"

"Drill and drill now"

Wow. Mc Cain is making Obonga look so....relevant, isn't he?

Aloha, Barry!

re: #28 Killgore Trout

"Drill and drill now"

YES!

re: #22 Killgore Trout

"Today we are all Georgians"

I thought I felt a little "cleansed".

Let me know if McCain ends the presser by jumping on an H bomb and dropping through the floor, waving his hat...

Where can I see this, can someone give me a link?

re: #26 Sharmuta

Oh, Scarlett!

re: #23 Charles

"We are all Georgians."

Except for the Discovery Institute, that is.

False authorities are funny that way.

re: #27 Killgore Trout

"Stop this massive transefer of wealth to countries that don't like us very much"

McCain just said that?

Somewhere Obama is doing a pineapple daquiri spit take.

Some additional USN presence in the Arctic would be a good signal.

OT

A must read...Jon Voight's op-ed

VOIGHT: My concerns for America

Obama sowing socialist seeds in young people.

re: #17 Honorary Yooper

Did he actually call them Soviet Russia?

* * *
You mean Putin isn't? He's a STILL a progressive communist Soviet!

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

McCain just said that?

Yeah, he's good with words like that.

Fox is streaming it- under the McCain Townhall meeting.

re: #36 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

yup!

He just gave praise to Sarkozy for use of nuclear energy.

re: #19 Sharmuta

What is he saying?

Firmly supporting Georgia, going into great detail about the situation on the ground. Mentioning Georgians have been serving alongside Americans in Iraq. Putting the issue into the broader context of defending freedom and democracy and the need for energy dependence here in the US.

re: #41 Ms. Missive

Yeah, he's good with words like that.

Well its about time a politician came out and said it. McCain keeps talking like that and Obama can pack his bags and head back to Chicago.

Obama
We can't drill our way out of this crisis.
If we all would just buckle up when we got into our cars we could save more lives than the Russians are taking in Georgia...

Wow. Events seem to be unfolding to help McCain again and again.

Maybe he's the anti-christ! O_O

/ ;D

re: #39 jorline

Did your link work?

re: #39 jorline

OT

A must read...Jon Voight's op-ed

VOIGHT: My concerns for America

now it's linked

GE does make good locomotives- efficient too.

My gosh, he's able to support Georgia as well as use this to show how dangerous it is to be dependent on foreign oil. This is where McCain _shines_.

Crap, I am starting to like McCain.

re: #45 Peter Verkooijen

Well Yee Ha!

+, energy independence you mean ?

Taking about Lieberman and bipartisanship.
Hint?

re: #45 Peter Verkooijen

Firmly supporting Georgia, going into great detail about the situation on the ground. Mentioning Georgians have been serving alongside Americans in Iraq. Putting the issue into the broader context of defending freedom and democracy and the need for energy dependence here in the US.

Sounds like he's hitting all of the salient points.

/Except one: what is any of this doing for Michelle's children?

So while McCain waxes realistic about Georgia, Obama is sleeping off his bodyboarding from yesterday in the Hawaiian surf.

snort!

I know I may not look like the other appeassers you have seen before, but I am just as craven...

McCain's colleague Mike Pence, holed up at the Capitol Building to get Congress to vote to Drill Here, Drill NOW, said call up a democrat politician this week and tell them politely to drill here, drill now.

(How else do we stand up to Putin the Oil Tick and others who mean harm to democracies?)

It's pretty damn racist for there to be a world crises while Obama is on vacation! Thank God he didn't let trivialities interrupt him. He needs his rest.

Meanwhile in Hawaii, Obama's still working on a response....

"We are the Georgians we've been waiting for!"... no that's not it

"That's not the Russia I knew!" ...hmmm, not punchy enough.

I know,

"Typical bitter Caucasian folk, stop clinging to your guns and religion!"

That's the ticket!

re: #48 kynna

Wait for the projectile vomiting, then we can be sure. [Name that movie!]

re: #61 Kenneth

Meanwhile in Hawaii, Obama's still working on a response....

That's the ticket!

This is the wave I've been waiting for?

re: #60 Iron Fist

And his waffles. We can't forget the waffles. I'd bet he's taking this vacation so the man can eat his waffle in peace.

Well, relative peace, anyway.

. . . Ho hum.

re: #62 joncelli

Le Exorcist

re: #54 Ojoe

Well Yee Ha!
+, energy independence you mean ?

Yes

Couldn't get the volume to work on the t.v. Finally figured it out and the damn speech had finished. oh well.. back to the Olympics.

re: #60 Iron Fist

It's pretty damn racist for there to be a world crises while Obama is on vacation! Thank God he didn't let trivialities interrupt him. He needs his rest.

They're distractions!

re: #32 Peacekeeper

Let me know if McCain ends the presser by jumping on an H bomb and dropping through the floor, waving his hat...

Nah! He flies an A-4 Skyhawk.

(Can't find the damned photo of an A-4D with a nuke...)

re: #65 rusty_armor

"ho hum" ?

Wow, Jon Voight really kicks ass.

re: #50 jorline

now it's linked

re: #58 Peacekeeper

I know I may not look like the other appeassers you have seen before, but I am just as craven...

Neville Chamberlain must be on some of those pound note dollar bills...

re: #56 CIA Reject

Sounds like he's hitting all of the salient points.

/Except one: what is any of this doing for Michelle's children?

They're going to become Lebowski Urban Achievers.

BTW: Obama doesn't think he is the Messiah. Look at this interview from 2004:

GG:
Do you believe in sin?

OBAMA:
Yes.

GG:
What is sin?

OBAMA:
Being out of alignment with my values.

He thinks he's the Deity!

re: #70 The Other Les

Try 1000 aircraft photos.com
Many many aircraft photos, organized

That even as the Soviets Russians are invading a neighbor, the polls still show Obama holding a lead, is frightening.

re: #72 Pyrocles

Wow, Jon Voight really kicks ass.

It's an excellent Op-Ed...he was just on Glen Beck and he was spot-on about the direction the LLL want to take our country.

re: #53 filetandrelease

Crap, I am starting to like McCain.

Because of Iraq, he's been my candidate all along. (Duncan Hunter would have been nice, too, but his candidacy never got traction). Of the major candidates, he is the only one that brought credibility to the argument...sorry Rudy.

re: #77 opinionated

That even as the Soviets Russians are invading a neighbor, the polls still show Obama holding a lead, is frightening.

It's much more complicated than that, my friend.

re: #71 realwest

"ho hum" ?

Yeah. I am pretty underwhelmed with McCain. He will be another lesser of two evils for me this November.

re: #76 Ojoe

Try 1000 aircraft photos.com
Many many aircraft photos, organized

Thanks.

Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine announced that Putin gave in to Obama's orders. Hah!

Obama isn't on vacation. He is having a secret consultation with George Clooney on how to handle this "Georgia thing".

re: #81 rusty_armor

Yeah. I am pretty underwhelmed with McCain. He will be another lesser of two evils for me this November.

All politicians are ass-holes. They don't get to such high ranking positions without being douche bags. Lesser of the two evils is absolutely correct....

..and yes, ho hum.

re: #27 Killgore Trout

"Stop this massive transefer of wealth to countries that don't like us very much"

Meanwhile, back at the Senate:

The Loft: GOP Senators Killing Energy Issue for Republicans and America

Last week, I wrote on efforts by House GOP members to draw attention to the fact that Nancy Pelosi sent House members home for the summer without a vote on domestic oil drilling. The American people want it, and the GOP House members are fighting for it. I also wrote on how big the energy issue is. It could be THE issue of the upcoming elections... an issue upon which Republicans could run AND win.

However, this is a new week, and whenever too much time passes, there is bound to be a new effort by the GOP to stall momentum and stab conservatives right in the heart. Who needs Democrats when so many GOP "leaders" act just like them? Now, we have the "Gang of 10." This group of senators (5 Republicans and 5 Democrats) claims to have forged a "bi-partisan energy compromise." In reality, we have a group of five GOP senators who are set on taking the winning issues of drilling and energy off the table and selling out to the liberals...

The Gang (of 10) That Couldn't Shoot Straight

2 kilgore trout...gad isn't that the truth.
I listen to cnn in passing except when Robin Meade is on.(heh)
but in my dentist office I listened to Wolf, for most of an hour. It was non-stop hate GWB and anti-Iraq war and ridiculing the al-Maliki govt and round-tables that were 'fair', with Gloria borger. Jack Cafferty. and some other rabid donk. And the venom was arrayed on all thing republican, gwb, economy, anti USA...
And apparently there is a contract with CNN for all public spaces or corp business lounges. My bank, Banco of America, has remodelled and installed a giant flat screen tv with a bunch of chairs. All facing CNN with hard-of-hearing text below.All day long,and this in a tiny branch in a tiny fly-speck city.

Well all y'all it's been sorta grand today. Wish I could type a lot faster but that's life.
Anyway, I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

re: #84 CAD Daddy

Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine announced that Putin gave in to Obama's orders. Hah!

Hooooo!
Stupidity unleashed!

re: #84 CAD Daddy

Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine announced that Putin gave in to Obama's orders. Hah!

Wow.

The Democrats are truly moving into the realm of Wish Fulfillment.

Obama is very happy that he is on vacation. He is unprepared and his 300 member foreign policy team seems to be made up entirely of has beens that have no solutions or suggestions for real conflict. The fact that the USA cannot be effective in every crises is a scary thought to airheads that think talk is action. Sometimes all one can do is to prepare for the next perceived crises, and Obama is against military spending of any sort.

This is probably one of the reasons Angelina won't talk to him... His enlightened, globe-trotting citizen-of-the-world daughter probably considers his views to be abhorrent.

re: #78 jorline

It's an excellent Op-Ed...he was just on Glen Beck and he was spot-on about the direction the LLL want to take our country.

BHO sitting drinking mai tai's:

"Why didn't someone tell me this issue was important?"

I'm hungry. I'm going body-surfing in Hawaii, and then grabbing lunch. Later.

re: #89 realwest

Cheers man...sorry for my pessimism but the news these days makes me wish for the proverbial rock.

re: #64 thedopefishlives

And his waffles. We can't forget the waffles. I'd bet he's taking this vacation so the man can eat his waffle in peace.

Well, relative peace, anyway.

Obama in Hawai'i: "Can't I just eat my Spam and rice in peace?"

Before this week, I'd bet that BHO couldn't point out Georgia on a world map.

re: #86 Ms. Missive
Sorry - didn't see your post before I posted "so long". I agree about politicians generally, McCain included, but since iirc you do live in Israel, who would you rather see as POTUS: "ho hum" John McCain or Obama?
Just curious is all.

re: #79 DeafDog

I am one of those McCain supporters brought to the party kicking and screaming.

re: #75 Quilly Mammoth

BTW: Obama doesn't think he is the Messiah. Look at this interview from 2004:

He thinks he's the Deity!

My values today are........

re: #57 NoSubmission

So while McCain waxes realistic about Georgia, Obama is sleeping off his bodyboarding from yesterday in the Hawaiian surf.

snort!

You know Obama's got to be seething. I wouldn't put it past a couple of his 300 advisers to call Putin and tell him to back off because this is hurting Obama's numbers at the poll.

I don't mind calling them just Russia, they were invading their neighbors well before the Soviet Union came to be ( look up "The Great Game" as one for instance.) It's the imperialistic nature of that nation. (Last time they crushed Georgia was in the 1920's as Communists, but the time before it was Imperial Russia.)

In 1783, Russia and the eastern Georgian Kingdom of Kartli-Kakheti signed the Treaty of Georgievsk, according to which Kartli-Kakheti received protection by Russia. This, however, did not prevent Tbilisi from being sacked by the Persians in 1795.

On December 22, 1800, Tsar Paul I of Russia, at the alleged request of the Georgian King George XII, signed the proclamation on the incorporation of Georgia (Kartli-Kakheti) within the Russian Empire, which was finalized by a decree on January 8, 1801,[20][21] and confirmed by Tsar Alexander I on September 12, 1801.[22][23] The Georgian envoy in Saint Petersburg reacted with a note of protest that was presented to the Russian vice-chancellor Prince Kurakin.[24] In May 1801, Russian General Carl Heinrich Knorring dethroned the Georgian heir to the throne David Batonishvili and instituted a government headed by General Ivan Petrovich Lasarev.[25]

The Georgian nobility did not accept the decree until April 1802 when General Knorring compassed the nobility in Tbilisi's Sioni Cathedral and forced them to take an oath on the Imperial Crown of Russia. Those who disagreed were arrested temporarily.[26]

Before that they came as the Mongol Horde...

re: #84 CAD Daddy

Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine announced that Putin gave in to Obama's orders. Hah!

What an assh*le. Obama was mimicking Russian propaganda on his first try at a statement.

re: #23 Charles

"We are all Georgians."

Except for the Discovery Institute, that is.

I thought we were all hizbALLAH.

Hard to keep things straight nowadays.

re: #101 jcm Don't you know you can't say "Obama" and speak of "Values" in the same comment - that makes you both ignorant of Obama and a RACIST!
/heavy.

OK, I'm outta here - seriously, hope I get the chance to see you all down the road.

re: #102 Wendya

You know Obama's got to be seething. I wouldn't put it past a couple of his 300 advisers to call Putin and tell him to back off because this is hurting Obama's numbers at the poll.

Hey! There's the answer - have BO tell Putin to back off or he'll sick the WAB on him!

re: #16 Peter Verkooijen

McCain is kicking ass.

Too bad no one will see it. After the MSM gets through editing it, he will look like Obama an idiot.

re: #102 Wendya

You know Obama's got to be seething. I wouldn't put it past a couple of his 300 advisers to call Putin and tell him to back off because this is hurting Obama's numbers at the poll.

Gallup and Rasmussen seem to show no change. I don't think the ONE can do any wrong.

I hope that the Georgian soldiers serving in IRaq are returned to Georgia with planes full of SAMs, Howizters, Cruise missles.

The MSM is acting as if Obama is the POTUS already! Here is the first paragraph of a Chicago Sun Times article.

WASHINGTON -- The swelling conflict between Russia and Georgia over South Ossetia and Abkhazia is the first major real-time foreign-policy crisis faced by Barack Obama.

What bunch of arrogant elitist sycophants! It's a problem Faced By Barrack Obama? What a bunch of Jackasses. How do people not see this agenda?

re: #103 Thanos

It's odd, but I don't think people remember that Russia was referred to as the Prisonhouse of Nations.

re: #61 Kenneth

Kenneth,

Hussein probably thinks all this is about the State of Georgia, one of the 57 58 States in the USA.

I think Obama told Putin if he didn't stop he would sick Michelle on him. With Hillary as backup.

re: #113 Egfrow

WTF has happened to that paper? They used to carry Mark Steyn.

98 Son..Sure, Obama can find Georgia. It is north of Florida and south of South Carolina. He even knows how many electoral votes it has.

re: #75 Quilly Mammoth

BTW: Obama doesn't think he is the Messiah. Look at this interview from 2004:

He thinks he's the Deity!

Another gem from the interview - he answers the question "Do you pray often?":
OBAMA:
Uh, yeah, I guess I do.
Its’ not formal, me getting on my knees. I think I have an ongoing conversation with God. I think throughout the day, I’m constantly asking myself questions about what I’m doing, why am I doing it.

He's praying to himself?

He has his own religion, but he's no Christian.

re: #112 big L

I don't think the soldiers would find it easy to carry a cruise missile.

But the thought's a grand one.

The Russians are nothing but a Mafia Organization with an embassy and a full military. is just an extortion move and takeover of Georgia to ensure that they have the Oil Moving through the pipelines. This is what criminals do.

We have to take Cuba and Venezuela now.

re: #117 NY Nana

WTF has happened to that paper? They used to carry Mark Steyn.

One thing that we can never be fooled in as conservatives is that the MSM is just the MSM no matter how much you want to believe them.

re: #38 jaunte

Would you settle for the Coast Guard?

re: #123 Egfrow

One thing that we can never be fooled in as conservatives is that the MSM is just the MSM no matter how much you want to believe them.

You are right...no pun intended. I wonder how many years the MSM has left? I think the clock is at 11:54 PM....and Foxnews has gone a bit to the left. What is happening to Murdoch? His young wife possibly?

re: #55 Killgore Trout

Taking about Lieberman and bipartisanship.
Hint?

"K-T" -

Though I am NOT a fan of the idea, it could have an interesting side effect.
One would think that Sen. Lieberman would from that point caucus with the "R's." With the balance in the US Senate we would be back to the 50/50 of 2001. Seems that would make Vice President Cheney the tie breaker in chief. Verrry Interrresting!

-S-

re: #124 Bubblehead II

Would you settle for the Coast Guard?

Important article, thank you.

re: #117 NY Nana

WTF has happened to that paper? They used to carry Mark Steyn.

Fallout from the Conrad Black defenestration. Another gift to America's enemies from a partisan prosecutor.

re: #113 Egfrow

Are they for real? WTF?

Hey wait, isn't Obama a Senator? Shouldn't he be at work?

re: #116 CAD Daddy

I think Obama told Putin if he didn't stop he would sick Michelle on him. With Hillary as backup.

Russians are not the most "Race Friendly" peoples. Putin will not respect Obama at all.

re: #111 markos

Gallup and Rasmussen seem to show no change. I don't think the ONE can do any wrong.

If you look at the breakdown of the numbers, Obama's people have to be freaking out. If here were the "One" he'd be leading on every issue.

re: #128 lifeofthemind

Fallout from the Conrad Black defenestration. Another gift to America's enemies from a partisan prosecutor.

I should have thought of that. I agree.

/Nice son he has...Conrad Black.

Try downloading TVU, then look for Fox.

re: #98 Son of the Black Dog

Before this week, I'd bet that BHO couldn't point out Georgia on a world map.

Or on a US State map!

re: #127 lifeofthemind

We need to get the boundaries set and soon. The Russians are going to try and claim all or as much as they can (natural resources). The sooner we tell them this is where the line is, the better.

McCain is looking better and better. Better than the Republican candidates, except Thompson. Just keep bombing Obama...

Jumping to the new thread.

re: #18 joncelli

Which isn't really possible. Unfortunately.

Of course the Russians can pay. Flood Georgia with IEDs. Be better than the Iranians removing any American markings and put Georgian markings. Send torpedos to Georgia for the Russian navy. Do it thru Turkey or with an airlift. Stingers should be flooding the streets of tbilisi. A dozen anti-tank weapons in every Georgian house. At least we should help a democratic ally defend itself. We did it for a bunch of uneducated totalitarian thugs in Afghanistan.

A lot of people think we have to send troops. How naive...

If the Russians think they are showing any particular military prowess, they are wrong. Their bombing seems to be off (except their ability to hit civilians) and their mass of strength seems to be achieving the gains. It would seem that we better get in the business of selling advanced weapons systems to the other Eastern European nations and teaching them how to use them. Either that or be prepared to move Black Horse Regiment back to the Fulda Gap.

Long Live Free Georgia!

re: #6 Peacekeeper

Obama taking notes diligently so he can parrot the stance.

Oh, no, he will sneer at the stance and suggest all parties meet to discuss the matter, I suggest Okinawa, isn't that the center of moonbat neutral territory?

(and what moonbat could locate Okinawa on a world map, within 1000 miles?)

re: #60 Iron Fist

It's pretty damn racist for there to be a world crises while Obama is on vacation! Thank God he didn't let trivialities interrupt him. He needs his rest.

I know, the Russians showing their racist streak. Could they at least inform the Obamessiah before they go trampling on little democracies? the racist nerve...

re: #75 Quilly Mammoth

BTW: Obama doesn't think he is the Messiah. Look at this interview from 2004:

He thinks he's the Deity!

unbef**ingbelievable...

self-centered narcissism anyone?

re: #75 Quilly Mammoth

BTW: Obama doesn't think he is the Messiah. Look at this interview from 2004:

Another gem from that interview

GG:
Do you still attend Trinity?

OBAMA:
Yep. Every week. 11 oclock service.

Every week, hmmmm?

Except of course NOW he suddenly remembers that he just happened to skip each and every time Wright went on his racist, anti-American rampages.

re: #139 yjlaw

If the Russians think they are showing any particular military prowess, they are wrong.

Well, our info is still extremely sketchy. I think you are correct, but it's hard to say anything.

The other side is whether Georgia showed they know what to do with their new toys, either. OK, apparently nobody expected the Soviets, er, whatever, to send in a full invasion force, and even if the Georgians had a plan for such a thing (I mean, besides "run away"), they were not in DefCon 1. Maybe they should have been.

Anyway, neither side seems to have impressed, so far.

terroristdeathwatch.com needs to open some new stats!

Folks, the critical issue here is:

What would Winnie the Pooh do?

Obama is in consultation with the Winnie and will be providing an announcement any moment now.

re: #139 yjlaw

If the Russians think they are showing any particular military prowess, they are wrong. Their bombing seems to be off (except their ability to hit civilians) and their mass of strength seems to be achieving the gains. It would seem that we better get in the business of selling advanced weapons systems to the other Eastern European nations and teaching them how to use them. Either that or be prepared to move Black Horse Regiment back to the Fulda Gap.

Long Live Free Georgia!

Only to the Eastern Europeans? How about flooding Georgia with weapons useful for Asymetric warfare, you know stingers, anti-tank weapons, torpedos for the Russian Navy. Yesterday!

Where is Charlie Wilson when Georgia needs one!

re: #92 pat

Obama is very happy that he is on vacation. He is unprepared and his 300 member foreign policy team seems to be made up entirely of has beens that have no solutions or suggestions for real conflict. The fact that the USA cannot be effective in every crises is a scary thought to airheads that think talk is action. Sometimes all one can do is to prepare for the next perceived crises, and Obama is against military spending of any sort.

Meanwhile, after the election:

Russian President Medvedev: Well Barack it like this... one of our bomber regiment commanders did a very silly thing...

Meanwhile, in a Tu-95 Bear bomber over Canada:

Major Kongski: Don't worry comrades! I'll get those bomb bay doors open if it hairlips everyone in Krasnoyarsk!

re: #118 big L errrrrr. that would be west of south carolina partner....

98 Son..Sure, Obama can find Georgia. It is north of Florida and south of South Carolina. He even knows how many electoral votes it has.

OMGZ! No wonder Putin is bitter, I just noticed that the Ruskies are running neck-and-neck with the French for medals at the Olympics :P

I wonder why this is not being reported more

Georgia Under Online Assault

Well the mess in Georgia has convinced me that I will have to vote for Mccain. I don't like it. I wanted to able to make a statement and vote libertatian but it is just too dangerous a time to let a marxist overeducated fool win by (defaut)

re: #152 bbuddha

it is just too dangerous a time to let a marxist overeducated fool win by (defaut)

Unfortunatley, that's is our bumper sticker for this election.

re: #152 bbuddha

Well the mess in Georgia has convinced me that I will have to vote for Mccain. I don't like it. I wanted to able to make a statement and vote libertatian but it is just too dangerous a time to let a marxist overeducated fool win by (defaut)

* * *
Thank you for making a better statement; we have to be free & strong as a country first to make other statements on issues of personal liberty.

re: #151 FurryOldGuyJeans

It's covered in the Wall Street Journal; I don't know if it's worth trying to link it.

re: #155 Dianna

It's covered in the Wall Street Journal; I don't know if it's worth trying to link it.

Am still wondering why it is not being reported by more media outlets. The WSJ and Wired.com I can understand as both are big on the tech side of things. I guess cyberwar isn't photogenic enough for any place else.

it would be interesting to know whether there is an adequate supply of shoulder mounted surface to air missiles in Georgia since a good number of those russian attack aircraft shown on the news seem to be operating extremely low.

While mounted anti-air artillery makes a good target, smaller weapons may be a real gift to the Georgians right now. If they could neutralize the air threat, it may give them the time they need to organize against the Russian armor. Anyone have a few thousand spare Javelins or Stingers? Would be an excellent live fire demonstration in how quality defeats quantity (when used by someone with guts and knowledge). People are comparing the Georgian fallback to a Rourke's Drift type of maneuver. It took the Boxer Henry .45 at Rourke's, the Georgian's need something equally heavy wen hunting bear.

re: #147 nacazo
and yes, I agree. Get Georgia the arms they need. Faster Please.

The Russians lost a Backfire. Shot down probably.

A blog called Cicero's Songs (London) has a list of things the West can do to make Russia suffer for its aggression in Georgia. Excerpt:

Do Russian spies not function with impunity? Expel them.
Is investment going to Russia? Stop it.
Is technology going to Russia? Ban it.
Do Russians enjoy shopping in the West- no visas.
Russian cyber attacks? Close the Russian Internet access to the outside world, as it is reopened, close it again, and again- replicate the cyber attacks they launched against Georgia (oh, and NATO, last year).
Does Russia like i-phones? No export of any technology.
Does Russia wish to join WTO? Stop it
Are they members of the "G-8"? No, you mean G-7.
Abrogate all military treaties including START.
EBRD and EIB investments in Russia? Suspend them.
No most favoured nation status- extra tariffs on Russian exports.
Russia craves respectability? Deny it- it is a thuggish third rate power- it will be hurt by a concerted boycott- so hurt it!

There is a comment function to allow more suggestions. There have to be consequences for Russia's actions. Russia is a sick bear, chained to its dying demography, lashing out at the encroaching darkness.

re: #92 pat

Obama is very happy that he is on vacation.

So am I.

Perhaps he should stay there.

I think Hillary would pick up most of the cost, and I'd contribute, too, I have some loose CHANGE around here somewhere!

From a Ukrainian news site:

According to A.Lomaya, President of Poland Lech Kazcynski, President of Lithuania Valdas Adamkus, President of Ukraine Victor Yushchenko, President of France Nicolas Sarkozy, and President of Estonia Hendrik Ilves.
At the same time, the office of the President of Lithuania informs that Latvia and Estonia will be represented by the countries` Prime Ministers. "The five countries`s Presidents have intent to voice their support to Georgia occupied by Russian troops", the information reads.

Eastern European Presidents Visit Georgia to Show Support Notice that Sarkozy, of France will join them.(Today)

Ukraine Must Actively Strengthen its Armed Forces
Short press release.

Ukraine May Never Feel Safe any More very short article.

M.Samus stressed that Ukraine must as early as today realize that its neutral status was actually wiped out with developments around the Georgian-Ossetian, Georgian-Abkhazian conflicts. “We must clearly decide: whether we’re with Russia or with NATO. Any neutrality will mean a state of permanent danger for Ukraine. And its future will depend on desires, interests, and needs of Russia”, he said.

Cicero says to boycott Stoli. Not a bad idea. Buy Polish vodka instead.

More economic news:

LONDON (AFP) — Crude prices slid further on Tuesday, as traders took their cue from the stronger dollar and Russia, which ordered a halt to its military offensive against Georgia.

Oil fell as the dollar hit a near six-month peak against the euro

Go dollar!

re: #121 Egfrow

The Russians are nothing but a Mafia Organization with an embassy and a full military. is just an extortion move and takeover of Georgia to ensure that they have the Oil Moving through the pipelines. This is what criminals do.

Exactly right, except for one thing: the BP pipeline through Georgia is (or was...) NOT controlled by Moscow. THAT was Putin's problem.

re: #159 kuffar

Sweet. It would be a real shame if a whole bunch of Russian jets just kind of suddenly fell out of the sky for no apparent visible reason.

re: #163 godfrey

Cicero says to boycott Stoli. Not a bad idea. Buy Polish vodka instead.

Buy Gvori. It's good stuff, and a real bargain.

Or Tito's - it's a "super premium" domestic.

re: #157 YJLAW

Would be an excellent live fire demonstration in how quality defeats quantity (when used by someone with guts and knowledge).

There's a quote from Stalin, "Quantity has it's own quality."

Dollar is strongly up against both the pound and the euro this month.

re: #166 Spiny Norman

I'm not a big vodka drinker, but I'm glad to pour the Russian stuff down the drain and replace it with Polish or American, sure.

Did you know Georgia is the oldest wine-producing area in the world? So says the wiki.

First vines from 7,000 years ago! I'm definitely interested.

Sommelier: Oui monsieur?
Godfrey: I'd like your finest bottle of Georgian wine, please.
Sommelier: Oui, we halve a beyootifoul '85 Saperavi.
Godfrey: 1985?
Sommelier: Oui, monsieur.
Godfrey: That's your best bottle?
Sommelier: Ah, monsieur, pour vous, voila, a reserve Saperavi from 640.
Godfrey: That's more like it!

Take that, teetotalin' YEChies.

re: #167 Son of the Black Dog

There's a quote from Stalin, "Quantity has it's own quality."

So true... For example, the Lufwaffe's JG52 fighter wing shot down over 10,000 Soviet planes, but what did it accomplish in the long run?

Nah, F-35 is a mud-mover. Strike craft. A squadron of Raptors would be a different story...

John McCain gets the russian threat better than bush or obama

JOHN MCCAIN IS BETTER ON NATIONAL SECURITY THAN EATHER PRESIDENT BUSH OR STATE SEN. OBAMA

i looked into Putin eyes and I saw KGB

re: #165 Kenneth

During the 73 war israel intercepted egyptian cables to the soviets saying how many soviet pilots were shot down by israel.

SAVE GEORGIA

re: #4 Pyroskank

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Bush called putin an angel or something remember that, anyone, anyone ...

Boy was he way off

re: #12 CIA Reject

And who thinks Barry is whining about this, "But I'm on vacation! This isn't fair!"

Maybe BHO can ask the Russians to hold off for the next week while he takes his vacation. After all, if he asks they will obviously relent and adhere to his request. He's the Messiah, dammit!

The Israelis should be proud of themselves for the Israeli training and education received by the Georgian soldiers," Georgian Minister Temur Yakobashvili said Saturday.

Yakobashvili is a Jew and is fluent in Hebrew. "We are now in a fight against the great Russia," he said, "and our hope is to receive assistance from the White House, because Georgia cannot survive on its own.

re: #147 nacazo

Only to the Eastern Europeans? How about flooding Georgia with weapons useful for Asymetric warfare, you know stingers, anti-tank weapons, torpedos for the Russian Navy. Yesterday!

Where is Charlie Wilson when Georgia needs one!

Well, we didn't start supplying Afghanistan with that stuff until the Soviets had basically won the war there. When the Stinger missiles came in and the muj shot down their first Russian copter, morale went up a thousandfold--thousands of muj burst out of their camps in Pakistan and returned to the fray. Once they ended Russian control of the skies the war changed.

re: #167 Son of the Black Dog

yes, and Barbara Tuchman noted the Russian's historical willingness to accept huge losses for relatively minor gains, which explains their decreasing population...

The Russians have gone so far into the espionage business that it is surprising to see them in an out and out battle ala mid 20th century. If we got the right equipment into the right hands, I imagine there could be some real damage done back to them.

as an aside, my personal favorite in the quantity vs. quality argument is this website.

[Link: www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com...]

"Everbody carries FOX. Were are you in Moscow?"

Not everyone. I stayed in the Hotel Benjamin in NYC last June and no FNC to be found. Hotel owned by Arabs. Surprise, surprise.

re: #177 Tigger2005

Well, we didn't start supplying Afghanistan with that stuff until the Soviets had basically won the war there. When the Stinger missiles came in and the muj shot down their first Russian copter, morale went up a thousandfold--thousands of muj burst out of their camps in Pakistan and returned to the fray. Once they ended Russian control of the skies the war changed.

So it seems the Russians already won, start the arm supplies to the Georgians ASAP!

re: #143 Silhouette

Another gem from that interview

GG: Do you still attend Trinity?

OBAMA: Yep. Every week. 11 oclock service.

Every week, hmmmm?

Except of course NOW he suddenly remembers that he just happened to skip each and every time Wright went on his racist, anti-American rampages.

"Every ship but your four fastest, you mean."

Did anyone notice how obama's people portrayed mccain as a war monger. While portraying BHO as balanced and reasonable.